00:07:23.260and consider telling Congress to guard your card.
00:07:27.480According to the Cook Political Report,
00:07:29.300Democrats in these competitive districts
00:07:30.980now hold a nine-point lead on the economy
00:07:34.140and 57% believe President Trump and Republicans
00:07:37.700have, quote, failed to deliver the lower costs they promised
00:07:40.880as opposed to 43% who think Trump inherited
00:07:44.820runaway inflation, which, I mean, he very much did.
00:07:47.740But OK, so if you're a Democrat, you've got to be feeling pretty optimistic, at least until, well, I mean, there's there's some data in this report that might give you some pause, like Cook reports that Democrats in Congress are actually more underwater with a net negative rating of minus 23 percent than their Republican counterparts.
00:08:07.780parts, and one in five Democrats think their own party's out of touch.
00:08:12.020So what Cook is saying, I'll give you a line from the report, Republicans are hemorrhaging
00:08:21.280And he goes through some of those numbers that we went through.
00:08:23.440And then he points out that, okay, right now they've got, driving all these numbers with
00:08:29.500independent voters, they're disgust with the economy.
00:08:32.800They give the president a 70% disapproval rating.
00:08:36.780And then he points out, Cook does, in 2018, the last successful midterm election for Democrats, independent voters opted for a Democratic candidate by a 12-point margin.
00:08:46.880OK, so by 12 points, independents went for the Dems, according to exit polls.
00:08:51.420Today, Democrats are winning independent voters in the generic ballot by 25, more than double.
00:08:57.580What happened in 2018 when independents went for Democrats by 12 points?
00:23:58.120The man couldn't fucking speak English1.00
00:24:00.160and he's driving a semi-tractor trailer.0.99
00:24:03.840We have the right to know if he can read the signs,
00:24:05.860which are in English. Grow up, Ms. Moderator. All right. What about California's spiraling
00:24:12.400homelessness crisis? I mean, have you been to California in the past couple of years?
00:24:16.700Good luck going two blocks without having to literally step over a homeless person or a
00:24:21.980homeless encampment or tents, et cetera. I mean, it's everywhere. It gets worse and worse and
00:24:27.520worse. California's ranked number one when it comes to homeless people. Number one has the
00:24:33.020most homeless people in the country, according to U.S. News and World Report. California alone
00:24:38.400accounts for over 24% of all homelessness in America, at least based on the 2024 estimates.
00:24:45.840Over 24%. How about that? Gavin Newsom became governor in 2019. And it was just last week that
00:24:52.220City Journal revealed California now provides sex change procedures to homeless illegals.1.00
00:24:58.900illegals. Think of it. You're, you come here unlawfully. You stay here unlawfully. You then
00:25:06.080can't get a job, can't support yourself. You become homeless and you want California taxpayers
00:25:13.280to, to pay for your, you know what, to be cut off, to, to have sex change procedures for us to0.98
00:25:21.660sterilize you. I mean, it's insane. And Gavin Newsom says, yes, I mean, this is what's going0.99
00:25:25.980to come back to haunt him if he actually becomes the nominee. I get the hairline. It's good.
00:25:30.920He's an attractive man. He's tall. He is freaking backing this. Can you imagine this on a debate
00:25:37.700stage when this gets exposed to the American public? As City Journal reported, quote,
00:25:43.900when most Californians think about homeless services, they imagine that their tax dollars
00:25:47.660are going to support veterans, families, and those who have fallen on hard times.
00:25:51.420The reality is that some homeless shelters have apparently turned into havens for transgender-identifying illegal aliens who can receive gender-affirming care, which is a misnomer, on taxpayers' dime.
00:26:06.120Here's, okay, on the homelessness issue, which is a nightmare in California.0.83
00:26:10.100Again, they're number one when it comes to worse in the nation.
00:26:12.960Here's Becerra's grade of Gavin Newsom on that issue.
00:26:16.520Mr. Becerra, we haven't seen you issue a letter grade on Governor Newsom's overall performance.
00:26:23.300What grade does he get on homelessness? And what, if anything, would you do differently? You have 60 seconds.
00:26:28.880Frank, I would say that the governor has made efforts. We've seen him come down to Los Angeles, actually go out and try to clean some of the streets.
00:26:39.360Oh my God. Everyone gets a trophy, an effort. I mean, what is, that might be even worse. At least
00:26:47.640if he hadn't tried, you could be like, well, he has different priorities. And if we could get him
00:26:52.180focused on the right priorities, he would know what he's doing. That's not what he said. He's
00:26:56.260like, he tried super hard. He's just totally incompetent. He's completely ineffectual and0.96
00:27:02.080doesn't know how to do things, get things done. I mean, it's, it's almost worse, but I mean, what,
00:27:07.040you know, as you know, I'm not afraid to swear, but I really don't like the P word.
00:27:11.580But if I were to use it, I'd be using it about Javier Becerra right there. What a P word.0.77
00:27:16.260Just say it. He sucks. He stunk up the joint. California is a mess, especially on this issue.1.00
00:27:22.780Own some piece of it. So you've got just a modicum of respectability with the voters
00:27:28.040listening to you. All right. But we've got to end this back on Team Sanity again with Steve Hilton
00:27:35.320explaining what's really going on. Watch. Mr. Hilton, you've given the governor an F
00:27:41.540on his overall performance. When it comes to homelessness, has he done anything right?
00:27:46.160You have 60 seconds. My goodness. Of course, it's an F. It shames our state,
00:27:51.100the situation with homelessness. We have about 10 percent of the U.S. population,
00:27:55.600around 50 percent of the country's homeless population. And as for Javier praising Gavin
00:28:01.540Newsom for the photo op where he tried to pretend he was cleaning up a homeless encampment.
00:28:06.700Literally, Gavin Newsom did that three times in a row. Nothing changed and nothing will change
00:28:12.420if you have one of these Democrats in power. It will be more of the same.
00:28:17.640Steve, you're doing great. Keep going. Keep going. And Hilton even had a great answer on why
00:28:23.720Californians should like that he was endorsed by President Trump. The moderator knew exactly
00:28:30.000where to go to. Why is that a good thing? California, everybody hates him. And watch
00:28:36.660how he handled it. Mr. Hilton, you said you were deeply honored to recently receive President
00:28:42.300Trump's endorsement. That's despite the fact that 62 percent of Californians disapprove of the job
00:28:48.820he is doing. Are those Californians wrong? You have 60 seconds. One of the proudest days of my
00:28:54.440life was the day I became an American citizen. It happened in a ceremony right here in San
00:29:00.720Francisco. So it is a deep honour for me to be endorsed by the President of the United
00:29:06.440States. And here's the thing that's going to help every Californian when I'm Governor,
00:29:12.820is that we will have a constructive relationship and partnership with the federal government,
00:29:18.800which would be the case, I would hope, for any party in that situation, so that we can make things better in California, work with the president and his administration.
00:29:31.640It will benefit every Californian to have a governor who is a partner on these issues with the president and his team.
00:40:47.760and contrary to what you said before you played the clip it wasn't me megan it was you
00:40:52.280had you not given her that format to show the world that she said unlocked the government
00:41:00.180folks over there because they care way too much about tourism and they didn't like the way that
00:41:05.880this looked that's what did it you did it megan and also there's a beautiful part where she gives
00:41:11.800you credit where she was freaking out and i remember those moments and i tried to calm her
00:41:15.360down. But you going over to her and saying, you're going to be fine. You got this meant the world to
00:41:20.980her. And she delivered her version of what occurred with courage and dignity and intelligence and
00:41:28.140passion. And that really opened the floodgates. Well, thank you for saying that. But I'm thrilled
00:41:34.520that these women found the courage to come forward because it wasn't just Gabby. As it turns out,
00:41:38.860there were others, Jonna, as we've seen in so many of these cases, when one brave woman finds
00:41:45.680the courage to speak out, all these other young girls who, you know, he was a tour guide. They
00:41:51.240weren't expecting to get molested by this man, sexually assaulted by this man. But one after0.93
00:41:57.640the other, they started to come out. So you tell me like whether you think the Spanish government
00:42:02.560did the right thing here or whether they had to be dragged kicking and screaming just based on
00:42:07.100the fear of tourism losses yeah i think it is the latter because i we have all seen this movie for
00:42:13.360lack of a better word uh time and time again seasoned predators always have a plan right
00:42:20.080this guy did not just wake up one day and decide that gabby was going to be his first victim so
00:42:25.640first of all kudos to her because god only knows how many other women she saved by having the
00:42:32.240wherewithal to come out come on your previous show and save so many other people from this
00:42:38.560particular fate and when you watch like i watched the first episode of the documentary and of course
00:42:43.560we see some signs the way they depicted it like for example he should not no tour guide should
00:42:49.240ever go to some young girl's hotel room to want to play games in his underwear number one red flag
00:42:57.100Number two, apparently like they show him pouring some champagne. He came with champagne. She doesn't Gabby doesn't have much of a memory of what happened. It's very, very foggy. So, of course, there's a possibility that he drugged her part of being the predator. So I applaud her very much.
00:43:13.740I don't know what Spain, how Spain takes sexual predators or sexual offenders of what they intend to do.
00:43:20.120But then I did hear even after he was convicted, he's out for now, at least while the case is on appeal.
00:43:26.360So they're not taking it as seriously as we do here in the United States.
00:43:29.860And that's shameful. Yeah. Let me add something. He did get convicted.
00:43:33.880I mean, that's that's the other happy ending here is that he they did ultimately bring charges.
00:43:38.680She testified and he was found guilty. And so that's happened.
00:43:42.960But as you point out, not yet in prison.
00:59:17.880I understand that sexual assault is a terrible thing, and nobody's denying that, but another thing is terrible.
00:59:24.920It's also terrible to falsely accuse somebody of it, and this person has a history of it.
00:59:29.520Look, we've got to start with the fact that she's drunk, admittedly drunk.
00:59:33.700And when you're drunk, you're unable to perceive things accurately when they occur,
00:59:38.240and you're unable to oftentimes recall them accurately later when you're called upon to recall them.
00:59:45.500And she's admitted that she was so drunk and she threw up,
00:59:48.840which suggests to me maybe that's more about the amount and quantity of the alcohol
00:59:53.280because even the manager there says that they were under the influence.
00:59:57.380So maybe that has something to do with the fact that she threw up if she did, in fact, do so.
01:00:01.580And then you have prior inconsistent statements.
01:00:05.200Now, the things where she's claimed misconduct against other third parties, you know, it's going to be very hard to prove or disprove those because like this one, it's going to come down to being a swearing match.
01:00:16.120But setting aside the fact that she's probably made false claims against other people and is a drama queen, you have a situation here where this woman has made false or prior inconsistent statements.
01:00:28.200And in the law, that is something that cuts directly to a witness's credibility.
01:00:33.600And you add to that, guys, the fact that a witness, this manager, remembers it and cannot corroborate any other details other than that they were there and they were drinking.
01:00:46.480You put all that together, and what you've got is a big ball of nothing.
01:00:50.100You got probably a false claim, certainly one that's not able to be substantiated to the point of making any kind of claim in court, even a civil claim, in my view.
01:01:00.540I mean, you definitely the girl whose lap was holding Ruby Rose is critical.
01:01:08.240You know, you're right, Ashley, that that girl is going to remember.
01:01:11.000You don't forget if Katy Perry, you know, take takes out her badge, as you put it and rubs it on your friend's face right in front of you.
01:04:25.920Well, this all feeds into a narrative that Katy Perry just thinks that she has the privilege to grab people's butts and pull people's pants down and perhaps put her vag in someone's face at a party.0.98
01:11:26.860And I think that in this case, it's not going to even go that far because I do think that Cash Patel, regardless of what the underlying facts here, probably does not want to go through the discovery process.
01:11:37.900Because if you sue someone for defamation, you open yourself up to a deposition and discovery about your drinking.
01:11:44.900And one thing, we saw the chugging of the beers at the U.S. Olympic ceremony when they were backstage, when they were getting the gold medal for the hockey team.
01:11:54.740And so when he was asked at a press conference, they asked him, is this true?
01:11:57.960And he said, he sort of evaded the question about whether he drinks too much.
01:12:02.760And I just wonder if he really wants to undergo this type of scrutiny.
01:12:06.580And if you continue with this lawsuit, not only do you open yourself up to discovery, but you have to show that the other side acted with what's called actual malice.
01:12:14.960And that's because Kash Patel is a public figure.
01:12:17.640It's not just a typical defamation lawsuit.
01:12:19.760You've got to prove defamation plus, which is that they intended to just destroy you, that they knew what the facts were, and they went ahead anyways because they had actual malice.
01:12:29.560It's a high standard, and I just don't think this lawsuit is going to have much in the term of legs.
01:12:34.360yeah so they had they either you have to prove they knew it was false or they recklessly0.92
01:12:40.940disregarded the matter of whether it was true or false they didn't give a shit basically it was0.60
01:12:46.500like i i want to publish this and i'm going to publish it here's cash patel denying the0.51
01:12:51.980allegations on tuesday stop 20 i do want to give you an opportunity to respond directly to the
01:12:59.300allegations in the Atlantic article that your unexplained absences created a national security
01:13:04.620risk. And beyond that, can you say definitively that you have not been intoxicated or absent
01:13:10.620during your tenure as FBI director? I can say unequivocally that I never listen to the fake
01:13:16.840news mafia. And as when they get louder, it just means I'm doing my job. This FBI director has been
01:13:22.580on the job twice as many days as every director before me. What that means is I've taken half
01:15:01.880He flew—he threw—there was a different judge who threw out Trump's lawsuit against the Wall Street Journal.
01:15:06.860And Cash had a separate defamation lawsuit against a different guy who raised the issue of his drinking, which also just got thrown out on the paper.
01:15:14.500So the administration is not doing that great on getting defamation breaks in their favor.
01:15:18.500But the rhetorical hyperbole and statements of opinion, things like that, do not rise to the level of defamation.
01:15:25.140But what he might have, and this is, you know, I guess we have a longer discussion on this, he might have other claims like false light and things of that nature that might survive.
01:15:34.880But in general, he's going to have a very tough time.
01:16:09.520So we're going to go out there, Megan, and just for you, we're going to personally investigate, and we're going to see if he's there, and we'll report back.
01:16:16.920And also, I expect drinking to excess, just so you can see what that's like and whether you remember it.
01:16:21.920You can't judge something unless you're familiar with it.
01:16:28.720You're method lawyers in doing your legal analysis.
01:16:32.540Here's one thing I will say is in his favor.
01:16:36.700He's not going to enjoy this process at all.
01:16:38.420He probably is hoping that it gets thrown out on a 12B6 motion, which is a motion to dismiss before you've had to exchange any discovery, any papers with each other.
01:16:47.340And it probably will get thrown out on a 12B6.
01:16:49.320But he's probably hoping it will because if it doesn't get thrown out on a motion to dismiss, they're going to be able to say, give us all your receipts for every bottle of wine you've had over the past year and a half since you took this office.
01:17:00.520Give us every single receipt or credit card statement when you charge drinks at the Poodle Room, this place Ned's in D.C. that they allege he goes to.
01:17:11.100We're going to depose witnesses who have seen you there.
01:17:14.000We're going to talk to your girlfriend about the level that you've drunk.
01:17:17.080We're going to actually start subpoenaing bartenders and figuring out just how drunk you were.
01:17:21.860Like, it's not going to go well for him because he's a drinker.
01:17:26.480There's nothing wrong with being a drinker.
01:17:28.160they're trying to paint something else, but just the whole process will be a humiliation,
01:17:32.440Ashley. It is. But I do want to say one other thing. One thing that's good for him is that
01:17:36.040they only give him two hours to respond because generally when it comes to that, like giving
01:17:42.320somebody time to respond, unless you need to get the story on the air, you know, like they need a
01:17:47.380hit print on this, you know, like, um, we've got a scoop that they're about to launch an attack
01:17:52.500on Turkey and it's going to happen tonight. It's sundown, you know, and it's noon. Then you would
01:17:58.200say you've got two hours to respond. Like I'm not holding my story, you know, because they can't
01:18:03.320hijack your story by saying, I need 24 hours. No. But like there was no rush to get, he drinks too
01:18:10.180much. And they had to use a ramming, you know, mechanism one time or thought about doing that.
01:18:15.100There was no rush. And what that is potentially evidence of is actual malice against him.
01:18:20.280Right. That's the best fact, Megan. I mean, the fact that they did that, that they only give him
01:18:23.220two hours, that is probably his best fact. But honestly, I think both of these people,
01:18:27.420they've gotten what they wanted out. The purpose is already served with both of them.
01:18:31.720She got her story out. People now are thinking, oh, well, he's a drunk. We already kind of knew
01:18:35.880that, but there's some extra sources. So that's validity for what people may have already thought
01:18:41.260because of the other stories. But Cash also served his purpose. He's filed a lawsuit. It's
01:18:45.460probably going to get dismissed on the 12b-6, probably, but it serves his purpose. He said it
01:18:50.280in that press interview, you know, if you come after me, I'm going to come after you. And you
01:18:53.800can't make that statement and then not follow through. So he sort of had to file a lawsuit.
01:18:58.080And I think it also serves a purpose of warning other people, hey, you know, watch out, be careful,
01:19:03.180do your job, be a little more careful, especially smaller groups, you know, maybe don't do this
01:19:07.880because you can't defend against a defamation suit. So I think the lawsuit has probably already
01:19:11.920served its purpose. He probably knows it's going to be dismissed. I'm not sure that he's really
01:19:15.220worried about the money that he's seeking. I think he's trying to curb this from happening
01:19:18.960again. And that's probably the end result of all of this. This is a manipulation of the narrative
01:19:25.520that he's trying for here. I don't think it was necessary. We all know, Cash, that they're going
01:19:31.800to do a hit piece after hit piece. No one listens to The Atlantic. I've had so many hit pieces done
01:19:37.280on me over the past year. Who gives a shit? They've done absolutely nothing to me. Our people,1.00
01:19:41.940the reasonable people, and I include you in that, Dave Ehrenberg, even though you're a lefty.
01:25:39.880The other is you can actually use grand jury subpoenas to bring in reluctant witnesses that don't want to speak to the police and essentially force immunity on them and make them talk.
01:25:51.280And Mark knows the DA involved in this.
01:25:53.900I don't know her, but apparently she's a heavy hitter, according to Mark.
01:25:58.240And they've been working this case up for a long time. This is advanced prosecute prosecutorial work. And yeah, and they they apparently have put together this case.
01:26:08.600The the complaint itself tells quite a story with lying in wait and stabbing and killing a witness.
01:26:15.200And it makes it appear as if they've got the they got the goods here to show that he killed her because he was engaged in a sexual relationship with her.
01:26:23.940They knew each other or began seeing each other when she was only 13 years old, which is 288 under the California Penal Code.
01:27:26.780They were with a lot with each other a lot.
01:27:28.540But, you know, getting from that to he's the one who put her in the trunk of that car is
01:27:34.760that's that's where cases are made or fall apart.
01:27:37.540Well, that's right, as usual, about a lot of things.
01:27:40.980And in this case, he's right about the fact that the DA involved, Beth Silverman, to say she's tenacious is an understatement.
01:27:51.960I think, though, that there is a lot more going on here.
01:27:55.920And let me kind of set the stage for it, because I don't know that I've ever seen this all done before.
01:28:02.460Not only did they have a medical examiner, we know today or yesterday when the published reports were that the exam was released and there was information as of December of last year that the medical examiner had come to the conclusion that the cause of death was use of a sharp instrument,
01:28:29.540that there were fingers that were severed and they had a toxicology that at least showed the
01:28:38.000presence of drugs. You combine that with the fact that what's being reported today also, if true,
01:28:44.720is that there was child porn, meaning images of females who were under 18 on David's phone.
01:28:53.700All of that would have been known to the DA last year, which leads you to why did the LAPD go in months ago, get rebuffed first, and then successfully later muzzle the medical examiner to the point where the medical examiner, something I've never seen before, came out publicly and pushed back against that.
01:29:17.220put on his website a statement saying, you know, that this is not transparent, that this shouldn't
01:29:22.220happen. Not once, but twice did he do that. And then yesterday, after the DA asked that the medical
01:29:30.180report be released, he thanked his partner agencies. I'm going to wildly speculate here
01:29:37.280that what happened was they arrested him on Thursday so that I think the LAPD did that
01:29:44.340so that they could force the DA to file this case. They did not have a criminal complaint.
01:29:50.160They did not have an indictment when they arrested him. There's this weird violation,
01:29:56.060I think constitutional violation, where you can arrest somebody on a Thursday and not put them
01:30:01.100before a magistrate until a Monday, which is beyond what the Supreme Court says for 48 hours.
01:30:06.500That forced the DA to come in heavy and file this case on Monday. The defense did something,
01:30:13.120I think, very astute. They said, that's fine. You can dump terabytes of information on us.
01:30:18.700We're ready for trial, which was in contrast to what happened in the Reiner case, where they
01:30:24.200dumped terabytes of information and the public defender said, hey, I need two or three months.
01:30:29.260I don't have enough time. I think that this the ball's back in the D.A.'s court and the D.A. may
01:30:33.820go get an indictment at this point. Matt, what do you make of that, that she was dragged to a0.50
01:30:38.760kicking and screaming by cops who were like, it's time.
01:30:41.700You know, I had a conversation with Harvey Levin on TMZ about this.
01:30:46.160And of course, that's Mark's Mark's partner on another podcast, which is sort of he called me.
01:30:51.980Mark is always right. You're always right. And Harvey's always wrong.
01:30:56.340By the way, Harvey even called me a slut.0.84
01:30:59.460His words for doing Meghan Kelly true crime with Matt.0.98
01:38:14.060Like, why is he having to take days away from the patriots?
01:38:17.440Because he may or may not have gotten it on with this reporter.
01:38:21.220By the way, my executive producer corrects me.
01:38:23.560She worked for The Athletic, which is owned by The New York Times.
01:38:27.220She and she was if they were to she's formerly of ESPN.
01:38:31.760If they were to tell me that he took days off to recover from the black eye from his wife slugging him, I would.
01:38:37.460OK, I get that. Got it. I'm there. Totally.
01:38:42.000No, but like there's like a big interview of him, Matt, online where he's like, you know, I had to talk to my team about not becoming a distraction and, you know, not I'm sorry I let them down.
01:38:51.760like like those guys would high five them in a heartbeat if they if they could that's i mean
01:38:59.800we're still talking about a group of american football players in a locker room give me a
01:39:03.520break yeah it's like this pearl clutching thing it's i totally agree it's it's completely out of
01:39:09.780hand it really is then there was another article i just think i see this one as long as we're going
01:39:14.460down this lane why not there's a dhs employee she's she's a dhs department hall on security0.96
01:39:19.780and there's some guy who's complaining because she was asking him for a bunch of money she was0.86
01:39:25.700like i want you to pay for my dinner and i want you to pay for my wardrobe and i want a few thousand
01:39:29.260bucks for this and um was basically treating him like a sugar daddy right and like again what what
01:39:36.080i don't i don't understand everywhere it's like it's up to you whether you want to do it or not
01:39:41.200do it we all know how that works like if you give it up she's probably going to give it up too or
01:40:15.740The way we have come to a point where people have lost their minds on these kinds of things.0.71
01:40:21.980Truly, it's like these sort of I don't know, it's it's it's its own court in a way, Matt, you know, like the court of public opinion.
01:40:29.580The media tries you. There will never be due process. You will just lose your reputation right quick.
01:40:34.100And it lives forever. Anybody who Googles it. And I mean, these are high profile people. But imagine the guy who has one thing on social media and that comes up over and over again. And it's not just the super famous. There's other people that, you know, are in the lower ranks of notoriety and it can destroy their entire life.