The Megyn Kelly Show - Latest Media Freakout Over Trump, Kamala as America's ＂Momala,＂ and Anti-American Brats, with Batya Ungar-Sargon ｜ Ep. 780

00:00:00.440 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:11.920 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.160 An unbelievable night on America's college campuses.

00:00:18.440 As police are called to break up ugly clashes and eject protesters who have disrupted universities for far too long.

00:00:27.580 Yes, leave it to the boys in blue.

00:00:30.740 And they should have been brought in long ago.

00:00:33.140 Overnight at UCLA, bloody fighting broke out between pro and anti-Israel demonstrators.

00:00:38.500 This following days of skirmishes after campus police had reportedly been told to stand down.

00:00:44.660 Even as Jewish students were denied entry to the campus for classes they have paid for.

00:00:51.560 Here's just a sample of what unfolded last night via the LA Times. 0.97

00:00:55.920 You're going to blow Jewish kids? 1.00

00:00:57.720 That's it. 1.00

00:00:58.640 You're waiting back, bitch. 1.00

00:01:01.680 I'm taking that day. 1.00

00:01:02.460 Yeah, you're på your arm, you can drop me out of dishes.

00:01:04.440 Come on. 1.00

00:01:11.120 Come on, bitch. 1.00

00:01:19.880 Look out. 1.00

00:01:22.420 Good.

00:01:24.820 Bits.

00:01:25.440 Okay. So the pro-Israel people were left to tear down the encampments and get onto the campus by

00:01:32.980 themselves since the cops had been given a stand down order. You could see the anger. That's what

00:01:38.820 happens when you give over your campus to a bunch of people calling for the Jews to die. People get 0.99

00:01:44.720 upset. A local ABC reporter could not believe his eyes, noting there was no law enforcement to be

00:01:50.280 found there. It is something I have never covered without any sign of enforcement, law enforcement,

00:01:56.700 security whatsoever. This has gone now on for over an hour and a half. And it is absolutely appalling

00:02:03.660 in my estimation that we have not seen any response. I've just never seen it.

00:02:08.260 Look, the campus, it was the school reportedly that gave the stand down order. The school did

00:02:14.180 not want the cops help. All right. And it wasn't until the campus requested help from the LAPD

00:02:20.740 who arrived to cheers from the pro-Israel supporters, that order was restored.

00:02:27.160 Meantime, over on the East coast in New York city, Columbia administrators,

00:02:31.820 this is what it takes, I guess, finally had enough. You've got to go commandeer a building,

00:02:37.020 have food supplies being shoved up to the windows. The kids are crapping in buckets because they know

00:02:44.940 if they leave, they won't be allowed back on. This is, you know, really heartfelt. These are lovely

00:02:49.520 people. After months of coddling these brats, Columbia's president, she's done, by the way, 1.00

00:02:55.980 wrote to the NYPD and said all of this chaos poses a, quote, clear and present danger, begging police

00:03:03.840 to show up and show up. They did. The NYPD, uh, here using a large video vehicle with a ramp to

00:03:12.920 send officers through a second floor window where they rounded up the protesters and found an absolute

00:03:18.160 mess inside Hamilton hall, which is the building that these students commandeered. Windows were

00:03:24.720 shattered. Barricades had been built, overturned furniture. It's like a hostage situation,

00:03:29.720 very insurrection-y, but not everyone is happy that the NYPD took action. Far left politicians

00:03:35.560 like AOC. Is she really a politician or is she just a camera whore? I mean, that's really what she 1.00

00:03:40.580 is. She's like never seen a camera she doesn't like. She's just posing as a politician so she can 1.00

00:03:45.440 get attention. Uh, she warned, this is a nightmare in the making saying if any kid and they quote kid

00:03:52.400 is hurt, this will fall on the mayor and the university president and other presidents across

00:03:58.460 the country who call in the police to help. And yet there were reportedly no injuries to those

00:04:05.000 adults. Absolutely none because the cops were respectful, but did their job like professionals

00:04:11.480 in all nearly 100 people were arrested. They'll be facing charges and it remains to be seen if DA

00:04:18.620 Alvin Bragg will ask, actually prosecute any of these brats. Bragg on the brats. I wouldn't put 0.98

00:04:26.620 money on it. I wouldn't put money on it. I mean, it's not like, as Andy McCarthy said, they, they had

00:04:32.060 like a, uh, a falsification of business record that would get his attention or would it as they were led

00:04:38.660 away in police buses. Their supporters cheered as captured by CBS, New York.

00:04:57.800 And there are other glimmers of hope that sanity may prevail on some college campuses, places like

00:05:03.760 UNC Chapel Hill. Yesterday, it started to look a lot like Columbia. It's unbelievable. This is the

00:05:10.420 South. Now what's happening as anti-Israel protesters briefly replaced the American flag with the

00:05:17.220 Palestinian one. You know what you can do with your Palestinian flag? And of course, chanted the usual 1.00

00:05:22.400 lines.

00:05:33.760 But school leaders and police and fellow students weren't having it. They marched onto the lawn. And even while

00:05:41.120 getting water thrown at them, they raised the American flag back to its rightful place. Chance of USA, USA

00:05:48.920 broke out along with this via student Guillermo Estrada.

00:05:53.960 We're so gallantly streaming. And the rockets red glare. The bombs bursting in air. They proved through the night

00:06:11.160 that our flag was still there. Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave.

00:06:23.160 Right on, boys. That is how it's done. Not for nothing, but all of the boys hoisting the stars and

00:06:42.960 stripes back up to their rightful place. Attractive, young, strapping men, appropriately dressed,

00:06:49.100 good haircuts, lovers of America. I'm telling you, following up my theory yesterday, it's no

00:06:55.780 accident. The good-looking guys are living their lives. They love America, and America loves them

00:07:02.380 right back. After this, interim UNC Chancellor Lee Roberts had an equally good message for everyone

00:07:09.220 involved. This university doesn't belong to a small group of protesters. It belongs to every citizen of

00:07:19.380 North Carolina. Everybody in North Carolina. Everybody who goes to school here. Everybody who lives and works

00:07:26.900 here. The flag represents all of us. To take down that flag and put up another flag, no matter what

00:07:35.820 other flag it is, that's antithetical to who we are, what this university stands for, what we have done

00:07:44.780 for 229 years. Right on, sir. Well done. That's how it's done, by the way. Joining me now,

00:07:53.900 Bhatia Angarsargan, opinion editor at Newsweek and author of the new book, Second Class.

00:08:01.560 Bhatia, welcome back. How about this Lee Roberts at UNC Chapel Hill and the boys hoisting the stars and

00:08:09.380 stripes back up to their rightful place? Thank you so much for having me, Megan. It's so great to be

00:08:15.680 here with you. I keep chuckling when you bring up this point about how good-looking they are, but I

00:08:19.860 think it's a really important point because, you know, this gets back to one of the central mysteries,

00:08:25.440 which is, you know, anybody looking at the footage before and after October 7th, right? The footage of

00:08:32.040 these sort of young, very beautiful people in their early 20s who had arrived at this music festival

00:08:39.400 to dance and to chant for peace and to sing and make music, right? They looked so beautiful and

00:08:46.600 angelic. And then, of course, the scenes of after, of their mutilated bodies, you know, what had been

00:08:52.220 done to them, the broken body of Shani Luke under, you know, the foot of this, you know, animal, this

00:08:59.340 Hamas animal as he drove her through the streets of Gaza and there were thousands of people cheering

00:09:04.000 and chanting after that. And I bring this up, Megan, because when that first happened, I remember

00:09:09.120 thinking to myself, surely the left is going to see themselves reflected in these beautiful, young,

00:09:16.900 music-loving, dancing, young people who only want peace, right? And of course, we know now that didn't

00:09:24.440 happen. We know that they sided with Hamas over the women that they had raped. They sided with Hamas 0.99

00:09:30.160 over these young, 260 murdered, like, beautiful, beautiful people. And I don't think it's an accident

00:09:37.020 that we're seeing something similar happening here as well, which is the left has turned on the values

00:09:43.020 of beauty and music and love and peace. And instead, they really embrace this sort of ugly

00:09:51.660 adulation of the oppressed. You know, whatever somebody who they consider to be oppressed does

00:09:58.600 is virtuous. And so they love war and violence. They stand up for and defend intifada. You know,

00:10:06.060 it's so interesting who the left today is. Yeah, absolutely right. And I and yet we're starting

00:10:13.500 to remember who we are, a center, center right and right alike. And there are some center lefties,

00:10:20.240 normal liberals who are repelled by this stuff, repulsed, and who are coming over to the there.

00:10:26.460 There was a report that when going, this is per the Charlotte Observer, when going on to the UNC

00:10:32.080 Chapel Hill campus to rectify this flag situation, that there was, OK, hold on, a police were preparing

00:10:41.400 to march onto the quad. And one officer asked if the others remembered which team they were on.

00:10:47.240 UNC Chapel Hill Interim Chancellor Lee Roberts offered this response. USA, USA, that's the team

00:10:54.680 we're on. Exactly right. And it's something these protesters out there pushing for Muslim rule, 0.67

00:11:01.480 Sharia law, which is where this is going to go if they get their way, it never will in America,

00:11:05.860 are forgetting to remember. They don't understand that what led to this Hamas attack was evil.

00:11:12.080 It was evil in the hearts of a group that wants to annihilate another people. It was not some just

00:11:16.980 causes they want us to believe. And what they should be worried more about is the changes that

00:11:22.040 these folks want to bring to America. I'm so glad that you put it that way. I've been saying from

00:11:27.260 the beginning, you know, these protests look like they're about Israel. They're not about Israel.

00:11:32.740 They're about America. They're about the West. Every single one of those protesters who chants

00:11:37.240 anti-Israel things, hates America, hates this country. It started with that woke ideology that

00:11:43.700 views anybody who has power as inherently evil and anybody who has, you know, who's oppressed,

00:11:48.660 according to them, as inherently virtuous. And what the Jewish students are being treated to right now

00:11:54.660 is not necessarily anti-Semitism. They're being treated to the treatment that white students have 0.60

00:12:02.060 been forced to endure since the woke movement took over universities. Israel is being treated 0.74

00:12:08.060 the way that these people treat America. Now, I don't want to deny that it has a uniquely anti-Semitic 0.99

00:12:12.680 flavor. Of course it does. It's amped up because it's the Jews. But at the same time, I think that we 1.00

00:12:18.860 should be a little bit frustrated that when the students were doing this kind of stuff to conservative

00:12:25.480 young people, to white young people on college campuses, where was the outrage over that? And I feel

00:12:31.660 uniquely as a Jewish person, that it's very important for us to say that. You know, a lot of

00:12:36.660 American Jews were in the progressive side when it was coming for, you know, Americans, when it was 0.67

00:12:42.040 coming for white students. And I'm personally having obviously like a very deep, you know, reckoning 0.84

00:12:48.120 about that. Why was it okay when they were physically assaulting conservative professors trying to speak

00:12:54.660 on college campuses? It wasn't. But you're right that now there's a lot of liberal outrage about this.

00:12:59.960 And I'm glad to see the liberal outrage about this. But it needs to extend further than just saying

00:13:05.720 we need to get Jews into the DEI hierarchy. No, we need to get rid of the hierarchy. It's not okay 1.00

00:13:12.440 to demonize Jews. And it's not okay to demonize white people. It's not okay to demonize Israel. And 0.95

00:13:16.600 it's not okay to demonize America. The opposite. Everything that makes Israel worthy of defending is

00:13:21.820 what makes America worthy of standing up for with the utmost pride.

00:13:24.960 It's so true. I know. I mean, I've for years now, I've been covering what Ann Coulter,

00:13:31.440 Heather McDonald, Charles Murray have been going through. Not to mention Ben Shapiro,

00:13:36.720 you could go beyond, you know, those. I mean, those are true intellectual thought leaders and

00:13:40.120 have been for a long time. What they what they go through when they try to speak on a college campus.

00:13:44.300 And look, does Ann Coulter need to go to speak to a college campus? She does not. She makes millions 0.93

00:13:49.020 of dollars off of her very successful books, her sub stack and so on. She does it because she wants to

00:13:53.520 spread the good word and she'd like to spark debate and get a conversation going. She doesn't 0.99

00:13:58.760 need to be shouted down. Like, well, she doesn't have to put herself through this. Heather McDonald. 0.96

00:14:03.040 I mean, truly, I don't I can't like we're so lucky to have this woman. She's an she's an intellectual

00:14:07.960 gift to us all. She says the unsayable, the uncomfortable truths that make us squirm in our

00:14:13.480 seats, but that we must reckon with if we want to better our country. And what do they do?

00:14:18.900 They just call her names. They shout her down. They protest her. In some cases, they endanger her.

00:14:24.300 You know, we saw the Supreme Court, not the Supreme Court, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals

00:14:27.560 Justice try to speak at Stanford, right? Like on and on and on. And let's face it, you're right. These

00:14:32.900 Jewish students and their supporters who are on the progressive left did not speak up for them.

00:14:39.420 They did not speak up for them. And that is a that is a problem. I mean, I think there are some

00:14:43.660 conservatives who are feeling a little irritated by that and are hoping that they've now learned

00:14:49.380 that, you know, if one person gets shut down, eventually it'll come for you.

00:14:54.560 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, looking at the protesters and then, you know, these frat boys who showed up

00:15:00.380 to defend the flag and to defend the Israeli flag at the same time, I mean, it's very clear where the

00:15:05.300 values are and where that connection is. And I think for a long time, if you went to college,

00:15:11.220 you know, you got inculcated into this woke mindset. It was very much a Democrat producing

00:15:16.200 machine, which is, of course, why, you know, Democratic administrations for decades now have

00:15:20.420 been trying to get everybody to go to college and basically devaluing the working class.

00:15:24.900 You know, but if you went to college, you got this view that the other side is evil and does not

00:15:31.520 deserve to be heard, that their views are dangerous. And honestly, Heather McDonald is dangerous 1.00

00:15:36.640 to rule by Democrats because she has the data to back it up that a lot of their platform or at least 1.00

00:15:43.180 the sort of moral indignation they bring to their platform is absolute nonsense. So she has to be 0.98

00:15:48.540 silenced. And I think it's extremely important that we don't take the lesson from this, that,

00:15:54.020 you know, Jewish students are unsafe on campus. Honestly, most of the people protesting on campus

00:15:58.560 are, you know, of the type of the Kaimani James, right? I mean, these are not people who are a

00:16:02.980 physical threat to anybody. Let's just be clear here, right? And if we adopt as a Jewish community, 0.55

00:16:09.900 the safetyism that led us here, we've not actually fixed the problem. The problem is that,

00:16:15.960 you know, ideas themselves are not dangerous. Speech is not dangerous. What has to be punished

00:16:21.380 is things like vandalism, things like taking janitors hostage, you know, things like not allowing your

00:16:27.020 fellow students to study in peace. But let us not descend into this sort of safetyist narrative

00:16:32.900 because that's how we got here in the first place. I understand why, for example, the Jewish 0.68

00:16:38.180 student at UCLA the other day, the good looking guy with the curly hair was not allowed to enter and he

00:16:45.020 didn't enter. He just filmed it because that clip was worth far more in this battle than him just

00:16:51.980 brushing past them and forcing his way through their pathetic little line would have been. He was trying 0.88

00:16:56.920 to expose them and he did it very cleverly just by filming what they did. He was obviously strong

00:17:02.560 enough to bust through these pathetic little line. By the way, that same kid spoke out about the whole 0.96

00:17:08.060 thing yesterday. Here's a little bit more from, forgive me, I don't have his name, but we all saw

00:17:12.780 him in that clip yesterday when he was prohibited from entering Sot 9.

00:17:15.640 Over the last couple of weeks, we have witnessed pro Hamas protesters setting up encampments all over

00:17:24.220 the country while they cower behind their masks and hide who they are. We stand tall and proudly

00:17:31.440 invoiced our message to the world. Israel is not going anywhere. The Jewish people are not going 0.76

00:17:38.820 anywhere.

00:17:46.340 So, Baccio, do you think, like, I've got to be honest, I've kind of been missing that in this

00:17:53.460 whole dust up. I want to see more like Jewish Americans are incredibly successful as a rule,

00:18:01.720 not everybody, but you know that this is one of the resentments toward them. But as a rule,

00:18:05.420 they've been incredibly successful and they're very hardworking and they're family oriented and

00:18:10.600 they're fighters and they've had hundreds of years of oppression and targeting. So I want to see more of

00:18:16.980 that, right? Like, I appreciate the peaceful singing and all that, but like, I also want to see some

00:18:23.380 fight, some rhetorical fight, some humiliation of the other side. Are we now finally at the point

00:18:28.940 where, you know, we're going to get more of that, do you think? I think we may, you know, the Jewish 1.00

00:18:35.580 students that I've been talking to have been saying to me, like, we're actually here, like, to learn

00:18:40.700 things, you know, unlike many of these, like, protesters who are there to learn how to become

00:18:46.400 protesters, right? That is what they are going to become. They're going to become, you know, the

00:18:50.000 leaders of unions are like, they're going to go into the sort of NGO, George Soros funded, you know,

00:18:55.920 democratic revolving door, right? Where their job is to agitate. And in fact, a lot of the students

00:19:01.360 wrote about agitating in high school in their college application essays in order to get into

00:19:06.620 Columbia in the first place, right? So there's this irony here where they have been doing this to the

00:19:12.200 opprobrium and applause of the progressive adults around them their whole lives. I think they're

00:19:17.340 probably very surprised to see this negative impact now. But the Jewish students are there, 0.69

00:19:22.700 like, to get their degree. They're like, you know, trying to become lawyers, trying to become

00:19:26.720 physicists, trying to become chemists, right? And so the idea that, like, that they would now

00:19:31.780 sacrifice their education in order to do this, I think, you know, the idea that they would have to do

00:19:36.940 that has come as a bit of a surprise. And really, they're much more focused on the academics. I will

00:19:42.600 say, I do think that this class divide here, where, you know, being a good student gets you entree into

00:19:52.140 one of these universities, where you can then become a kind of professional protester. And then

00:19:57.620 from there, you know, succeed upward, fail upward into the democratic leadership, a la AOC, or what have

00:20:05.380 you, right? Yes, exactly. This is a real pathway. And it is infuriating, not only because of the bad

00:20:12.060 behavior of these students, you know, in their, like, kafia midriffs and so forth, but because

00:20:17.000 the pathway to the American dream really does go through those Columbia protests. And it's so much

00:20:24.080 harder for good, hardworking Americans who don't go to university and don't get brainwashed to achieve 0.71

00:20:30.080 the American dream. And that is an absolute outrage that it is both the locus of this totally

00:20:37.120 amoral, anti-Semitic, you know, pro-terrorist ideology, but also that this is one of the surest 1.00

00:20:45.440 ways to secure the American dream. And if you choose not to do that, because you love this country,

00:20:50.560 and you love your Jewish neighbors, you're going to struggle. I'm very bothered by that, Megan. 1.00

00:20:55.320 The name of the student my team forwards me is Eli. The last name is spelled T-S-I-V-E-S. So

00:21:02.980 Sivis, Eli Sivis. Good for him for speaking out. Very proud of him and the way he behaved,

00:21:09.400 especially because UCLA has been just a mess. It's been an absolute mess. We received this

00:21:15.980 from a source out there. This is a mom calling UCLA police because her child, her, you know,

00:21:24.680 was trying to access his or her, I don't remember if it was a girl or a guy, uh, campus. And it was

00:21:30.180 a boy. So take a listen to how this went in Sot7. So are the protesters allowed to not allow a student

00:21:37.580 who pays tuition access to their class in the library? Uh, no, they're not allowed, but

00:21:44.820 unfortunately they have kind of taken over that little area right there. But unfortunately the

00:21:49.620 police are not, um, intervening with that right now. And this is coming from the university.

00:21:55.120 We received a directive to not intervene at this time. At what point does UCPD get involved?

00:22:02.120 Because if my child's safety, if your son, if your son is, needs police assistance and he,

00:22:08.480 of course he can contact us. So I'm calling and saying he needs police assistance to get into

00:22:14.000 his class, that people aren't letting him into his class. We're not, um, forcing them to move out of

00:22:19.880 the area. That's what, if it's, if he needs, like if he's, if he's getting attacked or he has a police

00:22:26.540 concern, then yes. But the fact that it's just locked off, they're not, they're not intervening with

00:22:31.080 that right now. Yeah. We're aware that they weren't. And that we reached out to the, uh,

00:22:37.580 police department out there in California, the LAPD, they didn't respond to us, but we were told

00:22:43.020 that they were given a UC, UCLA, I should say. We were told that they were given a stand down order

00:22:47.340 that they, they were told not to intervene. And there you hear for yourself. They were told

00:22:50.820 don't help them. That's why we had situations. Here's one more soundbite for you inside eight.

00:22:55.380 That's why we had situations like this where a juicy, where a UCLA Jewish student was refused

00:23:00.920 access. Here it is. You don't have a wristband. Why do I need a wristband?

00:23:08.000 Time to go. I can stand here if I want.

00:23:13.660 I'm not moving.

00:23:21.200 Okay. They're now cornering me.

00:23:24.200 They're wearing masks. They're wearing yellow construction masks.

00:23:27.160 I'm not moving.

00:23:28.240 You guys want to prevent Jewish students from entering? Fine. 0.70

00:23:32.560 Now we got to go to the Jewish students.

00:23:34.120 Are you a Zionist?

00:23:35.640 Of course I'm a Zionist.

00:23:37.680 Yes.

00:23:38.080 Okay. So, so you don't let Zionists in the library that I pay tuition? 1.00

00:23:48.100 So infuriating. I am amazed that there has not been an outbreak of all out fist fighting and

00:23:55.460 true violence between these Jewish students and these protesters. I mean, you really want to see 0.80

00:24:00.220 a beat down, but you don't, you don't, but there's a piece of you that's just so enraged. You'd like to

00:24:04.700 see somebody get it right in the face.

00:24:07.640 What's so amazing to me, Megan is in clip after clip after clip, you see the look on the faces of

00:24:13.020 the protesters. You can't see their faces because they wear masks, but like the zombified look in

00:24:17.500 their eyes. Have you noticed that? Like the just like blank stare as they follow orders, thinking

00:24:24.720 that they are like uniquely, you know, brilliant and virtuous and everybody else is wrong and evil

00:24:33.520 as they blindly follow orders that they obviously like, don't have any understanding of. It's amazing

00:24:40.960 to me. And that to me is really bone chilling more than even violence is, is that like blank stare

00:24:47.840 that the protesters have that you get when a mob forms and people are just following mob orders.

00:24:54.800 You know, the good news I think is, is that because UCLA is a public university, all of these students

00:25:00.020 will now have a K a lawsuit case against the state of California, not just the university itself in a way

00:25:07.180 that they wouldn't on a private campus, I think. But what I've been hearing from Jewish students is

00:25:12.140 that, see, this is the problem is, you know, they will show up and protest on their own. They will

00:25:16.980 set up their own tables. They will hold their flags. They will chalk on the ground, just like the

00:25:21.400 pro-Palestinian protesters. But there's a double standard in how the university treats them because

00:25:26.460 the university is not afraid of the Jewish students and the university is afraid of the Palestinian

00:25:30.320 protesters because they see them being backed by all of this, you know, organization, by the AOC

00:25:36.440 types, by all of this funding, by the NGOs. They're not quite sure that they will not have a much

00:25:42.260 bigger PR crisis if they take on the pro-Palestinian students. And so there's this double standard where

00:25:48.100 they'll hold the Jewish students to the letter of the law, but they will allow the pro-Palestinian 0.58

00:25:52.680 students to get away with things that they would not otherwise. And that is true discrimination and

00:25:57.520 it's troublesome.

00:25:58.200 It's like, to me, it's so emblematic of what we've seen time and time again. His belief, so he's being

00:26:06.700 banned here, allegedly, because he believes that Israel has a right to exist. So he can't come into

00:26:13.920 the campus for which his parents or he has paid, have paid. It's the same to me in some ways is what

00:26:19.920 we've seen from the left when it comes to Trump, Trump supporters. They're so vile. They have to be 0.95

00:26:27.400 kept out. We can't hear their views. Everyone related to Trump can't have a job, can't get on

00:26:34.560 an airplane, can't publish a book after January 6th. They all must be shunned, excommunicated from

00:26:42.700 polite society. And I'm not talking about the ones who hit cops. Those guys can rot in jail. I hope they 0.71

00:26:48.660 do. I have zero sympathy for them. They're not hostages. They deserve to be punished to the maximum

00:26:53.760 extent of the law. However, there is a whole host of folks who participated in January 6th as like

00:27:01.360 just protesters who thought they were there to like root on Trump and didn't go into the Capitol who

00:27:05.460 have been treated the same as the ones who, who punched the cops. And all of them have just,

00:27:11.320 and I take it beyond J sixers because they're controversial, but just Trump, right? Like you're 1.00

00:27:17.080 not allowed in, you have the wrong belief set. And I think conservatives from coast to coast

00:27:21.680 have been feeling this for a long time. You don't believe the right things like black people remain 1.00

00:27:27.900 uniquely oppressed. Like men can become actual women. It's not just a lie. We're actually looking

00:27:36.180 at a true woman here and so on. Right. So just that scene is triggering.

00:27:42.520 Definitely. And I would take it even one step further and say the reason Trump and his supporters

00:27:48.660 have to be silenced is not because they have the wrong views, but because they have the right views,

00:27:54.300 because Trump actually agrees with where the vast majority of Americans are at on many, many issues,

00:28:00.860 whether it's abortion, whether it's, you know, policing, whether it's unions, whether it's tariffs and

00:28:07.680 trade, whether it's immigration and the economy, Trump's views reflect 70% of Americans, certainly

00:28:13.500 the vast majority of the working class and the middle class. And because of that, the left has

00:28:19.040 to amp up that he's a unique threat in this way, a unique threat in that way. Oh, did you hear what

00:28:24.480 he said on this day? Did you hear he's going to be a dictator on that day? Because they're terrified

00:28:28.820 that when the American people realize what he actually believes, they're going to abandon the

00:28:34.200 Democrats in droves, which is what we're seeing happen right now. And I would argue, Megan,

00:28:37.680 the same thing is happening with the pro-Palestinian protesters. They are not out there protesting on

00:28:43.280 behalf of the children of Gaza, because if they were, they would be doing what Dr. King did,

00:28:48.520 which is appeal to the common humanity of the average American, who is a good hearted person who

00:28:54.240 only wants everybody to have safety and security for themselves and their children. Instead,

00:28:59.580 what they do is they chant these extremist slogans straight out of Hamas's charter, you know, 0.69

00:29:05.940 intifada, intifada, from the river to the sea, straight from Hamas's charter, because,

00:29:10.560 Megan, they don't want to convince people of their cause. They want to alienate people of their cause.

00:29:15.720 They want to shrink the number of people who defend the Palestinians so that they can feel the, 0.96

00:29:20.720 like, the virtuous ones. And the average American, the middle class person with their good values,

00:29:25.940 they can sneer at them. That's why they block traffic. That's why they get in the way of Christmas

00:29:31.180 carols and proceeds, because what they want is effectively to narrow the amount of people who

00:29:38.500 agree with them so they can lord it over them. They are not trying to convince people. They're

00:29:43.320 doing the opposite. They're sneering sense of entitlement. It's actually been really fun to watch

00:29:49.480 them. They don't, they get mad when they get arrested. They get very mad because unlike the civil

00:29:55.720 disobedient folks of the past who understood part of being disobedient to our laws would mean there'd

00:30:02.840 be a punishment and they were willing to take it to make a point. I mean, you know, love them or hate

00:30:07.940 them, respect, right? You understand? Like, I'm not a big Jane Fonda fan, but she takes the arrests

00:30:14.060 when she goes out there on her wacky environmental agenda stuff time and time again. You know, she takes

00:30:19.140 the arrest. She knows that's part of the bargain. These people don't want it. They don't want the benefit

00:30:23.100 of the bargain. They only want the upside and then they want to play the victim if they're faced with

00:30:27.520 the downside. But the one thing that has made them move from campus to campus, whether it was Princeton

00:30:32.640 or last night, Yale was you're going to be expelled. Oh, they move their asses so quickly. Oh, I'm out of 1.00

00:30:39.360 here. What? Huh? Because they can't lose their credential. I mean, maybe we could tolerate a mugshot. I could

00:30:46.000 explain that to my future academic professors who want to hire me, but expulsion lose my Columbia

00:30:53.540 degree. Oh, heavens to Betsy. And so it's amazing. It's amazing to see that happen right now. It's

00:30:59.060 happening at UCLA. As I said, they sent the cops in there and now they've canceled. We just got word

00:31:03.540 classes at UCLA for the rest of the semester. They're done because they're worried the rebel

00:31:08.520 rosters will come back and start it up again. And, you know, that they can't, they can't keep

00:31:13.900 order. I mean, it's just complete chaos. Let me ask you this. How do you think this plays out,

00:31:18.720 if at all, in our presidential election? You know, Biden's issued a couple of mealy mouth statements,

00:31:24.720 but they're not bad statements, but he doesn't say them. He just issues a paper statement.

00:31:28.820 You can tell his heart's not really in it. Or if it is, they're silencing him because they're

00:31:33.420 worried about Michigan. So what do you think now here we are, what, six months out?

00:31:38.860 How does this play in November?

00:31:42.260 I think that this cannot be separated from a larger obsession with the youth vote. And as a result,

00:31:49.640 youth culture, this like worship of young people that you see on the left, that's like really appalling.

00:31:55.640 You know, you, anytime you turn on cable news, if you're watching CNN or MSNBC, they're sitting there

00:32:00.040 being like, well, we should probably understand how the young people think, right? Because they think

00:32:04.200 that that is their future success right there. But what's amazing is that young people,

00:32:08.520 are defecting from Biden to the more pro-Israel candidate, right? Trump is actually outperforming

00:32:13.960 Biden now, I believe, with young voters. And it's a direct result of policy. This morning,

00:32:20.220 President Biden announced that there's going to be even more billions of dollars spent on

00:32:24.400 student loan forgiveness.

00:32:25.680 $6.1 billion. $6.1 billion. Sorry, I interrupted you. On student loan forgiveness, keep going.

00:32:31.120 And it's amazing because all of these people are out there being like, how could he have done this

00:32:35.280 the morning after? We all watched these college students behaving so badly from the lap of luxury,

00:32:42.240 like people who have been denied nothing, who have been given every opportunity,

00:32:45.960 who literally have oppression envy, right? That's what we're watching.

00:32:50.020 They're standing there. Oh, I love that term.

00:32:53.020 They're envious of the Gazans for their suffering. And so they are LARPing as the oppressed,

00:32:59.860 demanding humanitarian. I mean, it's ridiculous, right? We can make fun of them till the cows come 0.84

00:33:04.360 home. But more important than these ridiculous people is the administration, the Biden administration, 0.99

00:33:10.840 and decades of Democrats who have encouraged this oppression envy, whether it's of Palestinians or of 0.89

00:33:19.360 the civil rights struggle, the noble civil rights struggle. We have inculcated this woke mind view as

00:33:28.080 an alibi to hide the upward transfer of wealth from hardworking class Americans into the pockets of

00:33:36.740 these LARPers, right? I mean, $6.1 billion in student loan forgiveness. Biden looked at last night, 0.69

00:33:43.260 he looked at these privileged students holding janitors hostage, and he said, I'm going to side

00:33:49.080 with them and put money back in their pockets. I'm going to make that janitor pay off their student 1.00

00:33:54.900 loans. To me, this is going to have a big impact on 2024, because how can you not feel the injustice of

00:34:02.860 that, of the fact that the Democrats' entire economic agenda is a plunder of the middle class,

00:34:08.460 an upward transfer of wealth from janitors to LARPers who pay $90,000 a year to walk around in

00:34:15.000 midriff keffias? And denying entry to their fellow students who don't have the right viewpoints.

00:34:21.600 What do you think they're going to do to you conservatives when they get in charge at places

00:34:25.040 like Colombia and your kid or you try to get in and say something different there? I'll end this

00:34:31.560 particular segment before we go to break with some good news. It didn't just happen at UNC Chapel

00:34:37.580 Hill, which is the South, and in my experience, tends to be very patriotic, sadly more so than

00:34:42.380 some other places Northeast. New York City is still a patriotic place. Not all the lefties,

00:34:47.360 but it still is. And the NYPD got to City College, where they were having similar nonsense happen.

00:34:54.500 And when they did, look at the boys in blue, take down the Palestinian flag and replaced it 0.89

00:35:03.560 with an American flag right there. Way to go, guys. By the way, for those listening at home,

00:35:10.960 black, white, didn't matter. They love America. They restored our flag to its rightful place. 0.57

00:35:17.500 Uh, so leave it on that quick break more. And we've got to get to, I missed it yesterday when

00:35:23.660 we, we saw it was there, but we didn't get to it. The longer segment of Kamala Harris on with Drew

00:35:29.660 Barrymore. Kamala Harris. It's like deep breathing, deep breathing. She went on the Drew Barrymore show.

00:35:41.380 And on Monday, they released a promo clip, which we played for our audience in which it was just

00:35:47.180 affectation after affectation with Drew. You know, she, for the visual audience, I I'm going to do

00:35:54.540 an imitation where I just, my microphone is Kamala and I'm Drew. Oh, oh, oh, really? Oh, I mean,

00:36:03.960 uncomfortably close, like as close as you need to be to a microphone. That's how close Drew was to

00:36:10.120 Kamala. And I felt for Kamala Harris. I did. I felt bad for her. You could tell she had

00:36:14.740 embarrassment. I had secondhand embarrassment and you could tell it was too awkward of an

00:36:18.940 invasion of her personal space. But this was Drew's attempt to show I'm Oprah. I'm Oprah. Trust

00:36:26.100 me. I'm Oprah. I get it. No, for Oprah Winfrey, it came naturally and she didn't have to force a fake

00:36:34.200 feigned intimacy. That's why she became Oprah. Okay. That's why back in her day, she was very

00:36:40.440 special and one of a kind. You're not Oprah, Drew. And your segment with Kamala Harris proved it.

00:36:46.640 So Kamala Harris on the other end is accepting this adoration as though it's real. And as though

00:36:53.000 Drew Barrymore speaks for us all for, she speaks for all American women, right? Like Kamala is, 0.58

00:37:01.340 is our leader, the feminine hero that we need, feminist. First of all, for the first time in

00:37:10.100 the Drew Barrymore television show history, they stocked the audience with all women. Here's a look

00:37:17.180 at that. Saw 13. Welcome to the show. Our guest needs no introduction. She is the first black, 0.51

00:37:26.800 first South Asian, and yes, first female vice president of the United States. Please welcome

00:37:34.020 Vice President Kamala Harris. We have all women here today in the audience. Thank you, ladies.

00:37:49.980 I just threw up a little in my mouth. I don't know. Let's just stop there. Baja, the over the top

00:37:57.640 behavior of Drew Barrymore, who everyone used to like. She was cute when she was young and she was in

00:38:02.300 his movies. And now this truly it's performance. It's bad acting. That's what we're seeing in response

00:38:09.340 to, I mean, you would have thought Jesus had just walked in the way she treated. No one feels like

00:38:14.320 this about her. Who does she think she's kidding? It was a pantomime of, you know, positive feelings.

00:38:23.500 And even for Drew Barrymore, it was extremely overdone. And when I watched that, I couldn't help

00:38:28.600 but think like, this is what happens when you're extremely, extremely wealthy. You know, what is

00:38:35.680 politics even mean to you anymore when all of your needs are being met to excess? Like when you're a

00:38:41.980 millionaire or a billionaire, you know, what is politics even mean? You don't need anything

00:38:47.240 from politicians. You don't need anything from this country. And yet somehow our elites in Hollywood

00:38:54.740 still have this need to see themselves as on the right side of history. And so instead of doing an

00:39:01.540 honest take, looking around the country and being like, hey, people really need things. I wonder what

00:39:07.200 kind of policies we should be putting in place to help people with 18% groceries inflated, right?

00:39:13.480 Instead, they do this pantomime of politics around identity because it then they don't have to talk

00:39:19.940 about the real issues. And that's really what we were seeing. There is extremely wealthy people

00:39:24.820 pretending they're on the right side of history. And like all, can you imagine how embarrassed you'd

00:39:30.080 be if your introduction included something about your color, like your race? What the fuck are you 1.00

00:39:36.940 bringing up her skin color for? You're so fucking weird. I'm sorry, but like in defense of Kamala Harris, 1.00

00:39:43.540 you couldn't find one thing she did as vice president. I might not have liked what you might cite,

00:39:49.520 but I'm sure the left, you could find something. I don't know. She went down to Tennessee after those

00:39:53.640 three pro-abortion people, you know, threw a fit. I was something. She's the first to go to Planned

00:39:58.900 Parenthood as a sitting vice president, something that the left would, her skin color is brown. I mean, 0.64

00:40:04.460 that's really what she was saying. How offensive, but you're right. That's what they worship there.

00:40:09.480 It's not like Jesus because that's not who she worships. She worships skin color, which was on display. 0.94

00:40:14.920 So then comes the following. Kamala offers the following little ditty about her name and what

00:40:22.540 her stepchildren call her. Listen here. We, um, we kind of don't use the term step because I just think

00:40:31.400 I'd love Disney. However, Disney kind of messed that up for a lot of us over the years, you know,

00:40:37.580 the evil step parent. Um, and their word for me is mamala. And so they call me mamala.

00:40:45.580 All right. That's fine. I actually think that's kind of cute. It's kind of clever. I, I fine.

00:40:51.900 Here's the followup by Drew Barrymore.

00:40:55.140 I keep thinking in my head that we all need a mom. I've been thinking that we really all need a

00:41:03.960 tremendous hug in the world right now, but in our country, we need you to be mamala of the country.

00:41:11.140 And as a woman who respects so much and wants to share and wants to be confident and has no

00:41:31.140 ounce of meat that has competitiveness. Yeah. When we lift each other up, we all rise. That's exactly right.

00:41:41.140 Oh my God. That's right. That's right. That's right. However, we need a great protector.

00:41:51.040 Oh my God. She wants us to believe that that great protector who we apparently all need and

00:41:59.200 desperately want is Kamala Harris. Just once again, another word on the fake behavior, 0.99

00:42:05.080 the affectation of Drew Barrymore too close. She ran on top of her, like she's her microphone.

00:42:09.980 You can see she's on top of her. Get, get out of my personal space. And then again, with the, 1.00

00:42:17.120 I can't really do it because my Botox is too intact. I'll try to push my eyebrows. It's like that

00:42:21.900 with her eyebrows. Like, Oh, Oh, Oh, we're all so, or just hurting. You know why we're hurting

00:42:30.320 because of her policies, her policies, which are outlined in your book, by the way, second class. 0.57

00:42:35.660 So what did you make of it? No, totally. America doesn't need a hug. We need a secure border. We

00:42:41.960 need inflation to come down. We need like better affordable healthcare. You know, we need to get

00:42:47.060 rid of the diploma divide. We need to restore dignity to the working class. We need vocational 0.60

00:42:51.980 training. We do not need a hug. And you see here a real difference in like the working class culture, 0.94

00:42:58.640 conservative culture, and then liberal elite culture, you know, working class people really

00:43:04.040 value autonomy. They don't need their politicians to tell them what to believe. They don't need their

00:43:09.920 politicians to share their values or tell them how to feel about things. They just need them to enact

00:43:15.580 policy that enables them to keep more of their paycheck and buy a home. Like that's all they need.

00:43:21.380 liberals. On the other hand, they are super into politics as a kind of spirituality. And so they

00:43:29.700 need their politicians to have some sort of like spiritual, psychological, like to tell them what to

00:43:36.060 think and how to feel about things because all of their material needs are being met. Cause again,

00:43:40.440 they're wealthy. I mean, nine of the 10 richest counties vote for Democrats, like 65% of Americans

00:43:46.380 who make more than $500,000 a year. Democrats, Wall Street gave more money to Joe Biden than to Trump,

00:43:52.440 right? There's been this realignment and rich people. They look to these politicians, not for

00:43:57.760 policy, which they don't need, but for some sort of spiritual guidance because they have no sort of

00:44:03.200 internal sense of right versus wrong anymore. Thank you, universities. And that's what we're seeing

00:44:08.820 here. We're seeing a woman in Drew Barrymore trying to create some sort of idol out of this 0.54

00:44:15.920 empty shell, which is Kamala Harris, who represents only being female and being black and being Southeast 0.98

00:44:22.900 Asian, right? That she, she has no policy. She is simply this empty husk of identities because the 1.00

00:44:30.540 Democrats went all in on this to distract from their plunder of the middle class. That's what we were

00:44:36.300 seeing there. Oh, and if the nation needed a hug and never in its right mind, would it go to Kamala

00:44:45.800 Harris? Like there's nothing. That's why it failed so brilliantly, like so miserably, I guess is the

00:44:52.060 word because it was, it, it was untrue. If there had been even a nugget of truth in it, maybe it could

00:44:59.260 have landed, but it didn't because that's not who you would go to for a hug. There's nothing warm and

00:45:06.020 fuzzy and comforting about Kamala Harris. Even the left would back me up on this. So it was just

00:45:14.400 Drew Barrymore being completely obsequious because I guess she was so thrilled. She got a sitting vice

00:45:22.660 president on her show. Um, it was an embarrassment. It was almost as bad as her Dylan Mulvaney

00:45:29.100 embarrassment. Her inability to control her over emotionality is really a problem for her. And it's 0.99

00:45:36.440 a real turnoff to somebody like me, by the way. Um, most of, most of us who have had good mothers

00:45:42.240 and I realized Drew Barrymore may not be on that list because she had the stage mother who pushed her

00:45:46.660 and she was doing drugs at a very young age and all the stuff that she's come out with.

00:45:50.220 We know what a good mother does. A good mother doesn't look at you and say you're on your own. 0.95

00:45:55.400 I mean, you can't do it. You need me to step in and be your mama law who handles these problems for 1.00

00:45:59.540 you. A good mom says, you got this kid life's tough, but so are you. You're good. And that's,

00:46:05.700 that's not what Drew Barrymore needs or was asking for. She's used to a lifetime of coddling and somebody

00:46:12.340 else doing it. Here's another thing I wanted to say. This reminded me of the following, your comments,

00:46:17.240 Reese Witherspoon after Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted. Guarantee you this woman did not watch

00:46:25.140 one minute of that trial. No one should be able to purchase a semi-automatic weapon,

00:46:31.020 cross state lines and kill two people, wound another and go free. In what world is this safe

00:46:36.120 for any of us? Reese Witherspoon with undoubtedly her security guards in her mansions and her gates,

00:46:42.980 yet another elite rich woman who has no clue why someone might actually buy a semi-automatic weapon 1.00

00:46:51.160 and feel the need to protect others. Yeah. And I think it's really important to keep pushing home

00:46:56.100 this, you know, the Democrats used to represent labor and they abandoned them to cater to the college

00:47:02.820 educated elite, the educated rich, the cultural elites in Hollywood and the dependent poor. So,

00:47:09.960 you know, when you look at every policy pushed by the Democrats, it's either appealing to the top 20%

00:47:15.260 who now control, by the way, over 50% of the GDP, thanks to the Democrats or to the dependent poor 0.98

00:47:20.940 on the bottom, which means that 70% of Americans who want that autonomy, who want the dignity of labor

00:47:28.160 are being left out in the cold because all of the culture is being produced by Drew Barrymore on her

00:47:33.260 knees, elevating Kamala Harris, who can only hurt the working class with her democratic policies. 1.00

00:47:38.840 It's amazing. It really, truly is amazing to watch these women in their cluelessness about what

00:47:47.420 America actually needs, wants, and also who's to blame. Like Drew Barrymore has no idea. She's

00:47:53.120 probably, I bet she doesn't know like how much a carton of milk costs. She probably doesn't. She 1.00

00:47:57.840 probably has somebody else do all her shopping. And that's why she just wants to cheer on this woman. 1.00

00:48:01.700 Like she's a second coming because she's got the right skin color and she's got a vagina. And those are 1.00

00:48:06.760 the things she mentioned in her big intro. It's offensive. All right, Bacha stays with us. Much

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00:49:21.620 So Bajia, the Trump trial is not in session today because it's Wednesday. So Trump is given

00:49:27.540 one day during the work week to actually campaign for president. The rest of the days he has to

00:49:35.200 spend time in court where we're getting scintillating reports about his behavior,

00:49:41.640 including this one. Take a listen to SOT 16.

00:49:45.020 Your observations on Donald Trump today.

00:49:49.820 Sleeping.

00:49:51.200 Sleeping.

00:49:51.940 They have tried a number of different devices. Yeah, sleeping for a lot of it. I would say they've

00:49:57.580 tried a number of different devices to keep Trump awake, partially in response or what appears to be

00:50:02.420 in response to collective press corps observations. So for example, when there are sidebars, an attorney

00:50:07.600 doesn't leave his side anymore because leaving him alone means leaving him to potentially sleep.

00:50:12.860 He has a stack of papers with him at all times now to go through. But neither of those things

00:50:17.760 seem to have protected Trump from his own exhaustion today. More than, you know, more than not,

00:50:24.720 when I looked up to see how Trump was receiving the testimony, Trump was not receiving it at all

00:50:30.120 because his eyes were closed. I want to make a differential. We don't know if he's sleeping.

00:50:34.000 His eyes are sometimes closed. It could be because he's trying not to react.

00:50:39.240 Oh, wait, what? Aren't the entire narrative could be wrong? What? Just slip that in there at the end.

00:50:44.580 They're obsessed. There's huge close ups. And yesterday there was a report about or two days ago,

00:50:49.920 whether he was passing gas in the courtroom. And now it's on to his alleged sleeping. Oh,

00:50:56.240 or maybe not at all. Either all the time or never. That's our report. MSNBC.

00:51:01.940 Megan, you made an amazing point a few weeks ago that Trump is like a supervillain in a superhero

00:51:07.440 movie where the more you throw at him, like the bigger he gets and the stronger he gets.

00:51:11.800 And he's he has a genius for having made the right enemies. You know, if you make the right enemies in

00:51:18.460 life, you don't actually have to be that smart because they will tell you what the truth is by being

00:51:25.360 the opposite of it. And in a way, I really feel that Trump understood where the danger lies,

00:51:31.520 who the completely, totally empty, banal elites telling everybody what they should think and

00:51:37.960 believe. He understood that they were the enemy. And so he kind of positioned himself on the other

00:51:43.280 side of it. And with every step, with every day, with every report, they just reveal the emptiness

00:51:49.880 of what they are. I mean, can you imagine being this obsessed with somebody about whether he's

00:51:56.500 asleep or whether he's not asleep, whether he's passing gas, every micro expression? 0.98

00:52:03.080 It's so ridiculous. And the other point I would make is that I think conservatives tend to see 0.90

00:52:09.060 all of these attacks on Trump and think of them as a kind of coordinated effort on behalf of the

00:52:15.160 Democratic Party. But the truth is actually a lot more banal and a lot more disturbing.

00:52:20.900 There's no real coordination. It's just that every single one of these people, every single one of

00:52:26.160 these, you know, DAs and people in charge and politicians and members of the media have, you know,

00:52:33.540 main character syndrome. They think that they are responsible personally for keeping this person,

00:52:39.780 the most popular politician in America, out of office. And so they are each doing the same thing

00:52:45.960 in lockstep, like those zombified students on college campuses, but without realizing that they're 1.00

00:52:52.060 actually obeying a much larger diktat from the elites to make sure that the working class does not 1.00

00:52:59.900 get their chosen politician in office. You'd really think after Russiagate, it would have occurred to

00:53:06.100 them how they'd been used, how they were being used, but they don't care because they were also in

00:53:13.540 service of the same mission. It's like, fine. If you had told me explicitly I was being fed

00:53:17.740 misinformation, I would have done the same thing because we all had the same goal to get Trump.

00:53:23.220 There is some coordination. There was a report just this week, by the way, that Andrew Weissman,

00:53:27.960 you know, this former FBI lawyer and Jeffrey Toobin. Everyone knows what he's famous for.

00:53:35.000 And maybe another, was it George Conway? I can't remember who the third lawyer was.

00:53:40.840 Lawrence, Lawrence Try, Bill Kristol are having weekly meetings about the Trump trial to get

00:53:47.740 their talking points straight. I mean, it's unbelievable. Like Toobin, with all his troubles,

00:53:52.800 is supposed to be a straight news legal analyst for CNN. And Weissman, same for MSNBC.

00:53:59.180 Um, you know, Conway and Kristol are partisans, so they can do what they want and say what they

00:54:04.920 want. But like, that is pretty gross. You're not supposed to get together and come up with your 0.57

00:54:11.160 talking points. Where, by the way, is the, you know, Trump supporter in their little group?

00:54:16.240 What have they done to make sure that the analysis they're about to feed? Remember CNN supposed to be

00:54:20.660 the new middle CNN? It's like gone back to its objectivity. Really? Where's George Conway used to be a

00:54:26.960 Republican, but he's not a, he hates Trump more than anybody alive. Anyway, it's just one example

00:54:31.960 of how in some instances there actually is coordination, but I, I agree with you in general.

00:54:36.260 Um, so the Trump trial goes on. They're obsessed over his behaviors. By the way, the reason Trump

00:54:41.360 was closing his eyes more likely than not is yesterday was incredibly boring. They had a guy

00:54:46.980 up from C-SPAN for hours trying to lay the foundation on how C-SPAN takes in videos because

00:54:53.680 they needed C-SPAN videos to come in at some point in this trial. Who the hell wouldn't want

00:54:57.500 he to sleep through the real C-SPAN? Nevermind the guy talking about C-SPAN. So it's ridiculous.

00:55:04.600 I guarantee you Trump won't be asleep when Michael Cohen's on the stand or Stormy Daniel. Um, 0.91

00:55:09.980 now in conjunction with all that time magazine decides to do an in-depth piece on Donald Trump.

00:55:17.720 He's on the cover sitting, looking somewhat foreboding. It's in black and white and it reads

00:55:24.840 if he wins, if he wins, it's like the OJ, if I did it. And, uh, this is time magazine's shot at what

00:55:34.840 a second Trump term would look like. They did get two interviews with Trump because even though he

00:55:40.040 knows the media hates him, he continues to give them interviews. Even the ones he knows won't be fair.

00:55:45.420 And they also had conversations they say with his closest as advisors was conducted at Mar-a-Lago

00:55:51.660 on April 12th, 12th and phone conversations on April 27th. So it's recent. Uh, the opening line

00:55:56.460 reads, Donald Trump thinks he's identified a crucial mistake of his first term. He was too nice.

00:56:03.040 What they're actually referring to is a reference he made to his former top advisors who he now says,

00:56:08.260 I was too nice. I didn't, I don't want to embarrass people. So I let them quit in my second term.

00:56:13.720 I think I would fire. I'll, I'll fire more. So, okay. Take that for what it's worth,

00:56:18.460 but it goes on to talk about things that I think we'll have some Republicans running to the polls.

00:56:26.140 Uh, I'll, he'll re-infor, re-install many of the same policies from his first term

00:56:31.520 when it comes to immigration, remain in Mexico, directing federal funding to resume construction

00:56:37.240 of the border wall, relying on the national guard to round people up and deport undocumented

00:56:42.640 immigrants. As soon as he takes office, a border security and immigration package and extension of

00:56:48.360 his 2017 tax cuts. Um, like this is going to have the right marching through all sorts of weather to

00:56:57.620 vote for the guy, but the left had a different kind of reaction to some other parts of the article.

00:57:06.140 For example, on law, he says he might fire us attorneys who refuse his orders to prosecute

00:57:13.140 someone. By the way, the political us attorneys get fired as soon as the new president comes in.

00:57:18.060 That's an Obama thing. Um, on his enemies, would he prosecute Fannie Willis or Alvin Bragg?

00:57:22.860 He demures, but offers no promises. No, I don't want to do that, but we're going to look at a lot

00:57:28.720 of things. What they've done is a terrible thing. I'm going after Biden. I wouldn't want to hurt

00:57:34.820 Biden. I have too much respect for the office, but also says that if the Supreme court says the

00:57:40.220 president does not get immunity, Biden, I am sure will be prosecuted for all of his crimes.

00:57:47.420 Time notes, Biden has not been charged with any, right? Hasn't been charged with any,

00:57:50.740 but he's committed some. That's what the special counsel found. He just wasn't charged because he

00:57:54.960 was a well-meaning elderly man. So he could still get charged. Anyway, let me give you a sampling

00:57:59.740 of some of the left wing freak out in response to this piece.

00:58:05.200 I read this big time interview this morning and it's Trump in his own words saying these scary

00:58:10.540 things. There won't be guardrails next time. So he's admitting he's going to staff a white house 0.63

00:58:14.820 in the entire federal government with either liars or lunatics. 0.97

00:58:18.000 If he is elected to serve a second term as president, he plans out loud to drag our country 0.87

00:58:24.860 into a dark new era, a place we've never been before, more closely resembling authoritarianism.

00:58:31.220 You either vote and you vote for the country you grew up in and try to fix that, or you go to

00:58:38.260 dictatorship. And it almost felt like a call to arms to his supporters. Like, you know, stand back,

00:58:42.980 stand by. This is how Hitler talked before he seized power. It is how Mao talked. It is how Mussolini 0.73

00:58:53.440 talked. Stop him now. While we still can.

00:58:59.960 OK, I wouldn't want to hurt Biden. I have too much respect for the office. But if Supreme Court says

00:59:07.380 the president doesn't have immunity, Biden, I'm sure will be prosecuted for his crimes.

00:59:12.440 This is how Mao talked. What?

00:59:16.520 Yes. Hitler famous for saying he would never go after a political opponent, but is sure that the 0.99

00:59:21.920 justice system will be, you know, just and take due course, right? Like Hitler's famous crime. I mean, 0.91

00:59:28.100 it's so ridiculous. Megan, there was a poll a couple of weeks ago that found that 42 percent of 0.93

00:59:34.600 Democrats support rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them. 42 percent of Democrats. And this

00:59:43.260 reveals what is going on here. The liberal media thinks that if you are not totally woke,

00:59:50.340 totally radical left, you are a fascist and don't have a right to vote. And that includes

00:59:55.840 their own voters. It includes the views of the average Democrat. There is so much contempt and

01:00:03.160 loathing for average Americans just trying to get along. And honestly, Megan, I was listening to these

01:00:08.960 quotes from Trump when he said he wouldn't go after Fonnie Willis. I was like, oh, wow, I wouldn't have

01:00:13.440 expected him to say he wouldn't do that. Right. We're like, why not? It's like very reasonable,

01:00:18.760 you know, and it's so amazing. The projection. I mean, as if they are not currently weaponizing

01:00:25.260 the justice system to go after their political opponent because he is so popular, even as they

01:00:30.700 know they are doing that, they talk about ushering in a dark new age that they have already implemented.

01:00:37.780 They have so much contempt for their viewers and so much contempt for the average American.

01:00:42.620 It just it's dripping off of everything they say and everything they do.

01:00:48.240 Yes, gosh, yes. Well said. So we pulled separately Andrew Weissman, who we mentioned is doing the

01:00:54.360 weekly call reportedly with these other lawyers to getting their messaging together. And he's one

01:00:59.700 of the biggest Trump critics. And he had the following warning. We hear this from the Democrats

01:01:05.320 a lot in the lead up to a presidential election.

01:01:08.580 I happen to believe that the Andrew Weissmans of the world actually believe what you're about

01:01:13.620 to hear this time. Listen, we are essentially, as Neil put it, one vote away from sort of the end

01:01:22.140 of democracy as we know it. That is what is so shocking is how close we are. And we are really

01:01:28.980 on the razor's edge of that kind of result. One vote away from the end of democracy as we know

01:01:38.520 it. That's what's at stake. They were discussing the Supreme Court's immunity hearing and, you know,

01:01:43.760 the potential, you know, that the Supreme Court may actually find that the president does have some

01:01:48.420 immunity for X while in office. But in any event, the over dramatization is what they try to do,

01:01:54.640 right? It's like your life as you know it, this country as you know it will never be the same if

01:02:00.680 you put this maniac in. Meanwhile, they already had him in for four years. Yeah, absolutely. And

01:02:08.160 it's just so ridiculous because when you think about the way that they talk about democracy,

01:02:14.880 they have redefined the word democracy to mean when we win and redefine the word fascism to mean

01:02:22.300 when we lose. It doesn't actually have any meaning anymore. If you said to them,

01:02:26.620 wouldn't taking, you know, a former president off the ballot maybe be a threat to democracy?

01:02:32.200 No, they literally cannot see it because in their minds, the word democracy means we win.

01:02:36.940 And we know what they do when they win. What they do when they win is upward transfer of wealth from

01:02:42.800 the working class to the rich elites. And that is what makes this all the more horrifying, 0.89

01:02:47.060 whether it's accusations of racism or accusations of threat to democracy,

01:02:51.240 what they are effectively saying is if you working class Americans don't support our plunder of the

01:02:58.080 middle class for the rich elites, you don't deserve to have a vote. You are a racist. You are a threat 0.99

01:03:04.280 to this country when the truth is the exact opposite. It is such a genius, evil play to disguise what's

01:03:11.360 truly happening here. Yeah, the they're worried about themselves. That's what they show over and over.

01:03:18.220 You know, you wrote this whole book about working class Americans because you care about them and you'd like

01:03:23.020 to shed a light on what they're actually going through. This is the reason, by the way, J.D. Vance is now

01:03:27.360 a U.S. senator and on the shortlist reportedly for Trump's vice president. I mean, it was, I think,

01:03:33.560 five, six years ago I was interviewing this guy. He didn't have a job. He had just left Peter Thiel

01:03:39.100 in San Francisco. He had graduated from Yale Law School and he was back in Ohio trying to figure out

01:03:45.160 his next move. Now he's on the shortlist for vice president of the United States. It could possibly

01:03:49.200 happen. Why? Because he too is paying attention, not to what J.D. Vance needs, but to what working

01:03:55.860 class America needs and telling the truth about their struggles. It's a very different thing over

01:04:02.400 at MSNBC where I will bring you Nicole Wallace's chief concern about a second Trump term. Watch this.

01:04:10.580 Because depending on what happens in November, seven months from right now, this time next year,

01:04:17.020 I might not be sitting here. I might not be a White House Correspondents' Dinner or a free press.

01:04:21.880 While our democracy wouldn't exactly fall apart immediately without it, the real threat

01:04:27.640 looms larger. A candidate with outward disdain, not just for a free press, but for all of our freedoms

01:04:34.360 and for the rule of law itself. Did you hear that, Megan? Without the White House Correspondents' Dinner,

01:04:39.240 we will have no democracy. It's so funny. But again, what is that dinner? It's the hobnobbing

01:04:48.000 of the political elites with the media elites, with the Hollywood elites, right? All of these

01:04:53.880 liberals and leftists who sit there and get high on this fantasy that they are the good guys and

01:04:59.220 they are the virtuous against an evil, racist middle America. When the truth is the opposite,

01:05:04.580 they have used this myth of racism in order to plunder the middle class and give themselves all 0.74

01:05:11.300 of the rewards, this upward transfer of wealth from hardworking Americans into the pockets of the

01:05:16.440 already rich. I like the plunder word. It's working. Oppression envy was also a good one. All right,

01:05:22.300 before we go, I want to get to, I played this in part yesterday, but we cut a lot, a longer bite

01:05:26.720 for today. And here's what happened. Secretary of Education, Miguel Cardona, went on Capitol Hill

01:05:33.100 the other day to testify about some of the craziness we're watching. And Title IX was brought up by

01:05:39.840 Senator Hyde-Smith of Mississippi, and she got up in his grill, in particular on why girls and young

01:05:47.820 women are no longer going to be protected from having biological males come into their dressing rooms, 0.99

01:05:53.560 their bathrooms, their locker rooms, et cetera. That's just a dent of what the new Title IX

01:05:59.820 regulations not passed by any lawmaker are going to do. They take effect in August. This guy doesn't

01:06:07.520 get it. Watch. We cut a longer bite. Let's play the two minute one, you guys, and take a look at how

01:06:13.120 he handled himself. He said protecting students is number one priority for you. So I'm glad to know

01:06:19.440 that you've stated that for us today. Does this rule require schools to share the information with

01:06:25.440 parents regarding their children's gender status? Whether this rule does or not, parents and schools

01:06:31.500 should be working together. I have to tell you, the rule strengthens protections for students.

01:06:37.140 I don't necessarily agree with that. Do you investigate schools that socially transition children

01:06:42.900 without notifying students' parents? Depending on what the request is, I defer that to the

01:06:49.380 investigators at OCR whether or not to take a case. What does your department have to say about how

01:06:54.740 this rule will impact biological females, eliminating the safe spaces for women and even pushing women out 1.00

01:07:02.860 of athletics altogether? What this Title IX rule does is ensure that all students, including our LGBTQI

01:07:09.120 students, are protected. So when a biological male goes into the locker room with biological females, 0.52

01:07:17.160 do you think that that is a safe space for those young girls? When girls walk into bathrooms, 1.00

01:07:26.160 you may not be recognizing students who are transgender, but because you don't recognize them

01:07:31.200 doesn't mean that I don't protect them. I think the line of questioning is trying to create division.

01:07:35.160 What we're trying to do is protect all students. We're not trying to create division. You just said

01:07:39.020 protecting students is my number one priority. But there's a difference in boys and girls and where

01:07:44.220 they change clothes and undress. Do you agree with that? Schools make rules on how to make sure

01:07:49.160 students are safe and have privacy in our schools. And the Title IX rules just reinforce the work that

01:07:55.940 they have to do to also protect students who are LGBTQ who have, unfortunately, historically in our

01:08:01.360 country, been under attack. And we need to protect those. No one is attacking anyone right now. We are

01:08:06.940 talking about school safety and girls' locker rooms and bathrooms. So you don't need to change the

01:08:12.420 conversation that somebody's attacking someone. So your position is that they still have the safe spaces

01:08:20.980 that they deserve when biological girls are undressing. That is your position. It is my honor as an 0.99

01:08:27.560 educator to protect students who have been marginalized. And as secretary of education,

01:08:32.280 it is my responsibility to protect all students, not just some. And the same breath that you say

01:08:38.300 safety is number one. Unbelievable. I'm just writing down. It's my honor, my honor to protect students who

01:08:46.520 have been marginalized. And then he quickly adds, oh, I mean, all students, not the girls. There's so much

01:08:51.320 in there, Badia. Title IX, his revisions, which none of us agreed to, strengthens the, quote,

01:08:57.760 protection of students. No, it doesn't. It literally only does one thing, and that is allowed

01:09:03.140 trans kids into women's spaces. Everybody else gets hurt. Young men who get accused on college

01:09:09.360 campus no longer have due process. Young women have to expose their body parts to biological men who have 0.97

01:09:14.820 access to their spaces. Do you investigate schools that secretly trans the kids, is basically what she was

01:09:20.380 asking? No. He said, oh, it's up to the investigators. The answer is no. They definitely do not do that.

01:09:25.520 That is school policy at several, several schools in throughout New York City, throughout New York,

01:09:31.080 throughout Connecticut. That's policy. Trans the kids without notifying the parents. The parents are 0.99

01:09:35.940 otherized. Like, they're hashtag part of the problem. Do you want to keep it safe for girls? 1.00

01:09:42.000 These are girls, he basically said. He said, even though you don't recognize 0.99

01:09:45.720 them, meaning the boys, as girls, they are girls, and you're trying to create division.

01:09:54.460 There's a natural division. There is a division between boys and girls and men and women, 0.83

01:09:59.100 and we've reinforced it in particular spaces in society for a long time for very good reason. 1.00

01:10:05.160 He's a traitor. He is the policy enemy of every woman and girl out there. He should be ashamed of 0.99

01:10:13.600 himself. I know we're not impeaching cabinet officials anymore because it didn't go so well

01:10:17.760 the last time we did it, but he's a representative of his boss, and people need to keep this in mind

01:10:22.460 when they go to vote. And it's not just at the presidential level. Up and down the ticket

01:10:26.660 come November. Your thoughts on it? I think you're absolutely right. And the point I would make is this

01:10:33.740 is not a left-right issue. I will never forget, Megan, listening to your show, I don't know,

01:10:39.980 two and a half years ago. I remember exactly where I was. I was walking on the beach, and you made this

01:10:44.940 point. You said, I have nothing against any transgender individual. I respect every person's

01:10:50.480 right as an adult to choose what they want to do with their lives. I respect their choices. I respect

01:10:55.420 their freedoms. They shouldn't be discriminated against. But that has nothing to do with when

01:11:00.800 we're talking about children. That has nothing to do with when we're talking about sports or

01:11:05.640 bathrooms or protecting women. That view that you enunciated there is the view of the vast majority

01:11:12.700 of Americans, whether they vote for Democrats or Republicans. The vast majority of Americans

01:11:16.980 want transgender individuals to be protected from discrimination in the workplace, but also

01:11:22.360 only 17 percent of Americans, just 17 percent, want transgender individuals to be allowed to compete

01:11:29.340 against girls on girls' teams. But the entire Democratic Party is devoted to that 17 percent.

01:11:36.480 So the question would be, right, well, then why aren't all Americans, all of these, you know,

01:11:41.420 83 percent voting for Republicans? And the answer to that is extremely important, because they can't

01:11:47.600 afford to put this as their number one issue. And so if Republicans want to win, if they want these

01:11:52.840 voters who are now voting for Democrats but agree with them on this issue, to have the ability

01:11:58.300 to vote for them on this issue, it's extremely important that they start talking about class

01:12:03.260 and recognize that their base is working class and their base could be much, much bigger if they

01:12:08.320 talked in class terms. That's exactly right. Yes. Because like Nicole Wallace, people do ultimately vote 0.99

01:12:15.800 on what's in their own best interest. It's just the vast majority of Americans' best interest does not

01:12:21.600 line up with those espoused by Nicole Wallace there. What about my multi-million dollar job?

01:12:27.140 I might not be here. Which is that, by the way, so farcical, Trump was president for four years and

01:12:32.700 he let you keep your shitty show. He didn't do anything to you. All right. So like stop with 0.99

01:12:36.760 the catastrophizing. He would have gotten rid of you already if he wanted to, if he had the ability

01:12:41.420 to, which he doesn't. So all right, whatever. Bhatia, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for coming on

01:12:46.300 again. Thank you so much, Megan. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, you too.

01:12:53.600 Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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Latest Media Freakout Over Trump, Kamala as America's ＂Momala,＂ and Anti-American Brats, with Batya Ungar-Sargon ｜ Ep. 780

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