Latest Media Freakout Over Trump, Kamala as America's ＂Momala,＂ and Anti-American Brats, with Batya Ungar-Sargon ｜ Ep. 780
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Pro and anti-Israel protesters clash on U.S. college campuses, and the NYPD is called in to break it up. Meanwhile, Columbia University calls in the help of the NYPD to restore order on their own campus, but not everyone is happy about it.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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An unbelievable night on America's college campuses.
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As police are called to break up ugly clashes and eject protesters who have disrupted universities for far too long.
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Overnight at UCLA, bloody fighting broke out between pro and anti-Israel demonstrators.
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This following days of skirmishes after campus police had reportedly been told to stand down.
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Even as Jewish students were denied entry to the campus for classes they have paid for.
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Here's just a sample of what unfolded last night via the LA Times.
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Yeah, you're på your arm, you can drop me out of dishes.
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Okay. So the pro-Israel people were left to tear down the encampments and get onto the campus by
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themselves since the cops had been given a stand down order. You could see the anger. That's what
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happens when you give over your campus to a bunch of people calling for the Jews to die. People get
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upset. A local ABC reporter could not believe his eyes, noting there was no law enforcement to be
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found there. It is something I have never covered without any sign of enforcement, law enforcement,
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security whatsoever. This has gone now on for over an hour and a half. And it is absolutely appalling
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in my estimation that we have not seen any response. I've just never seen it.
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Look, the campus, it was the school reportedly that gave the stand down order. The school did
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not want the cops help. All right. And it wasn't until the campus requested help from the LAPD
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who arrived to cheers from the pro-Israel supporters, that order was restored.
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Meantime, over on the East coast in New York city, Columbia administrators,
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this is what it takes, I guess, finally had enough. You've got to go commandeer a building,
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have food supplies being shoved up to the windows. The kids are crapping in buckets because they know
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if they leave, they won't be allowed back on. This is, you know, really heartfelt. These are lovely
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people. After months of coddling these brats, Columbia's president, she's done, by the way,
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wrote to the NYPD and said all of this chaos poses a, quote, clear and present danger, begging police
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to show up and show up. They did. The NYPD, uh, here using a large video vehicle with a ramp to
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send officers through a second floor window where they rounded up the protesters and found an absolute
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mess inside Hamilton hall, which is the building that these students commandeered. Windows were
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shattered. Barricades had been built, overturned furniture. It's like a hostage situation,
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very insurrection-y, but not everyone is happy that the NYPD took action. Far left politicians
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like AOC. Is she really a politician or is she just a camera whore? I mean, that's really what she
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is. She's like never seen a camera she doesn't like. She's just posing as a politician so she can
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get attention. Uh, she warned, this is a nightmare in the making saying if any kid and they quote kid
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is hurt, this will fall on the mayor and the university president and other presidents across
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the country who call in the police to help. And yet there were reportedly no injuries to those
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adults. Absolutely none because the cops were respectful, but did their job like professionals
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in all nearly 100 people were arrested. They'll be facing charges and it remains to be seen if DA
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Alvin Bragg will ask, actually prosecute any of these brats. Bragg on the brats. I wouldn't put
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money on it. I wouldn't put money on it. I mean, it's not like, as Andy McCarthy said, they, they had
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like a, uh, a falsification of business record that would get his attention or would it as they were led
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away in police buses. Their supporters cheered as captured by CBS, New York.
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And there are other glimmers of hope that sanity may prevail on some college campuses, places like
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UNC Chapel Hill. Yesterday, it started to look a lot like Columbia. It's unbelievable. This is the
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South. Now what's happening as anti-Israel protesters briefly replaced the American flag with the
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Palestinian one. You know what you can do with your Palestinian flag? And of course, chanted the usual
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But school leaders and police and fellow students weren't having it. They marched onto the lawn. And even while
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getting water thrown at them, they raised the American flag back to its rightful place. Chance of USA, USA
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broke out along with this via student Guillermo Estrada.
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We're so gallantly streaming. And the rockets red glare. The bombs bursting in air. They proved through the night
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that our flag was still there. Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave.
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Right on, boys. That is how it's done. Not for nothing, but all of the boys hoisting the stars and
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stripes back up to their rightful place. Attractive, young, strapping men, appropriately dressed,
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good haircuts, lovers of America. I'm telling you, following up my theory yesterday, it's no
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accident. The good-looking guys are living their lives. They love America, and America loves them
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right back. After this, interim UNC Chancellor Lee Roberts had an equally good message for everyone
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involved. This university doesn't belong to a small group of protesters. It belongs to every citizen of
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North Carolina. Everybody in North Carolina. Everybody who goes to school here. Everybody who lives and works
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here. The flag represents all of us. To take down that flag and put up another flag, no matter what
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other flag it is, that's antithetical to who we are, what this university stands for, what we have done
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for 229 years. Right on, sir. Well done. That's how it's done, by the way. Joining me now,
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Bhatia Angarsargan, opinion editor at Newsweek and author of the new book, Second Class.
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Bhatia, welcome back. How about this Lee Roberts at UNC Chapel Hill and the boys hoisting the stars and
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stripes back up to their rightful place? Thank you so much for having me, Megan. It's so great to be
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here with you. I keep chuckling when you bring up this point about how good-looking they are, but I
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think it's a really important point because, you know, this gets back to one of the central mysteries,
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which is, you know, anybody looking at the footage before and after October 7th, right? The footage of
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these sort of young, very beautiful people in their early 20s who had arrived at this music festival
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to dance and to chant for peace and to sing and make music, right? They looked so beautiful and
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angelic. And then, of course, the scenes of after, of their mutilated bodies, you know, what had been
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done to them, the broken body of Shani Luke under, you know, the foot of this, you know, animal, this
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Hamas animal as he drove her through the streets of Gaza and there were thousands of people cheering
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and chanting after that. And I bring this up, Megan, because when that first happened, I remember
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thinking to myself, surely the left is going to see themselves reflected in these beautiful, young,
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music-loving, dancing, young people who only want peace, right? And of course, we know now that didn't
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happen. We know that they sided with Hamas over the women that they had raped. They sided with Hamas
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over these young, 260 murdered, like, beautiful, beautiful people. And I don't think it's an accident
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that we're seeing something similar happening here as well, which is the left has turned on the values
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of beauty and music and love and peace. And instead, they really embrace this sort of ugly
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adulation of the oppressed. You know, whatever somebody who they consider to be oppressed does
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is virtuous. And so they love war and violence. They stand up for and defend intifada. You know,
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it's so interesting who the left today is. Yeah, absolutely right. And I and yet we're starting
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to remember who we are, a center, center right and right alike. And there are some center lefties,
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normal liberals who are repelled by this stuff, repulsed, and who are coming over to the there.
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There was a report that when going, this is per the Charlotte Observer, when going on to the UNC
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Chapel Hill campus to rectify this flag situation, that there was, OK, hold on, a police were preparing
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to march onto the quad. And one officer asked if the others remembered which team they were on.
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UNC Chapel Hill Interim Chancellor Lee Roberts offered this response. USA, USA, that's the team
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we're on. Exactly right. And it's something these protesters out there pushing for Muslim rule,
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Sharia law, which is where this is going to go if they get their way, it never will in America,
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are forgetting to remember. They don't understand that what led to this Hamas attack was evil.
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It was evil in the hearts of a group that wants to annihilate another people. It was not some just
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causes they want us to believe. And what they should be worried more about is the changes that
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these folks want to bring to America. I'm so glad that you put it that way. I've been saying from
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the beginning, you know, these protests look like they're about Israel. They're not about Israel.
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They're about America. They're about the West. Every single one of those protesters who chants
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anti-Israel things, hates America, hates this country. It started with that woke ideology that
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views anybody who has power as inherently evil and anybody who has, you know, who's oppressed,
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according to them, as inherently virtuous. And what the Jewish students are being treated to right now
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is not necessarily anti-Semitism. They're being treated to the treatment that white students have
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been forced to endure since the woke movement took over universities. Israel is being treated
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the way that these people treat America. Now, I don't want to deny that it has a uniquely anti-Semitic
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flavor. Of course it does. It's amped up because it's the Jews. But at the same time, I think that we
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should be a little bit frustrated that when the students were doing this kind of stuff to conservative
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young people, to white young people on college campuses, where was the outrage over that? And I feel
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uniquely as a Jewish person, that it's very important for us to say that. You know, a lot of
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American Jews were in the progressive side when it was coming for, you know, Americans, when it was
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coming for white students. And I'm personally having obviously like a very deep, you know, reckoning
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about that. Why was it okay when they were physically assaulting conservative professors trying to speak
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on college campuses? It wasn't. But you're right that now there's a lot of liberal outrage about this.
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And I'm glad to see the liberal outrage about this. But it needs to extend further than just saying
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we need to get Jews into the DEI hierarchy. No, we need to get rid of the hierarchy. It's not okay
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to demonize Jews. And it's not okay to demonize white people. It's not okay to demonize Israel. And
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it's not okay to demonize America. The opposite. Everything that makes Israel worthy of defending is
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what makes America worthy of standing up for with the utmost pride.
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It's so true. I know. I mean, I've for years now, I've been covering what Ann Coulter,
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Heather McDonald, Charles Murray have been going through. Not to mention Ben Shapiro,
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you could go beyond, you know, those. I mean, those are true intellectual thought leaders and
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have been for a long time. What they what they go through when they try to speak on a college campus.
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And look, does Ann Coulter need to go to speak to a college campus? She does not. She makes millions
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of dollars off of her very successful books, her sub stack and so on. She does it because she wants to
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spread the good word and she'd like to spark debate and get a conversation going. She doesn't
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need to be shouted down. Like, well, she doesn't have to put herself through this. Heather McDonald.
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I mean, truly, I don't I can't like we're so lucky to have this woman. She's an she's an intellectual
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gift to us all. She says the unsayable, the uncomfortable truths that make us squirm in our
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seats, but that we must reckon with if we want to better our country. And what do they do?
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They just call her names. They shout her down. They protest her. In some cases, they endanger her.
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You know, we saw the Supreme Court, not the Supreme Court, the Third Circuit Court of Appeals
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Justice try to speak at Stanford, right? Like on and on and on. And let's face it, you're right. These
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Jewish students and their supporters who are on the progressive left did not speak up for them.
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They did not speak up for them. And that is a that is a problem. I mean, I think there are some
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conservatives who are feeling a little irritated by that and are hoping that they've now learned
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that, you know, if one person gets shut down, eventually it'll come for you.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, looking at the protesters and then, you know, these frat boys who showed up
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to defend the flag and to defend the Israeli flag at the same time, I mean, it's very clear where the
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values are and where that connection is. And I think for a long time, if you went to college,
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you know, you got inculcated into this woke mindset. It was very much a Democrat producing
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machine, which is, of course, why, you know, Democratic administrations for decades now have
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been trying to get everybody to go to college and basically devaluing the working class.
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You know, but if you went to college, you got this view that the other side is evil and does not
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deserve to be heard, that their views are dangerous. And honestly, Heather McDonald is dangerous
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to rule by Democrats because she has the data to back it up that a lot of their platform or at least
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the sort of moral indignation they bring to their platform is absolute nonsense. So she has to be
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silenced. And I think it's extremely important that we don't take the lesson from this, that,
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you know, Jewish students are unsafe on campus. Honestly, most of the people protesting on campus
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are, you know, of the type of the Kaimani James, right? I mean, these are not people who are a
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physical threat to anybody. Let's just be clear here, right? And if we adopt as a Jewish community,
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the safetyism that led us here, we've not actually fixed the problem. The problem is that,
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you know, ideas themselves are not dangerous. Speech is not dangerous. What has to be punished
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is things like vandalism, things like taking janitors hostage, you know, things like not allowing your
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fellow students to study in peace. But let us not descend into this sort of safetyist narrative
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because that's how we got here in the first place. I understand why, for example, the Jewish
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student at UCLA the other day, the good looking guy with the curly hair was not allowed to enter and he
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didn't enter. He just filmed it because that clip was worth far more in this battle than him just
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brushing past them and forcing his way through their pathetic little line would have been. He was trying
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to expose them and he did it very cleverly just by filming what they did. He was obviously strong
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enough to bust through these pathetic little line. By the way, that same kid spoke out about the whole
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thing yesterday. Here's a little bit more from, forgive me, I don't have his name, but we all saw
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him in that clip yesterday when he was prohibited from entering Sot 9.
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Over the last couple of weeks, we have witnessed pro Hamas protesters setting up encampments all over
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the country while they cower behind their masks and hide who they are. We stand tall and proudly
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invoiced our message to the world. Israel is not going anywhere. The Jewish people are not going
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So, Baccio, do you think, like, I've got to be honest, I've kind of been missing that in this
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whole dust up. I want to see more like Jewish Americans are incredibly successful as a rule,
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not everybody, but you know that this is one of the resentments toward them. But as a rule,
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they've been incredibly successful and they're very hardworking and they're family oriented and
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they're fighters and they've had hundreds of years of oppression and targeting. So I want to see more of
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that, right? Like, I appreciate the peaceful singing and all that, but like, I also want to see some
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fight, some rhetorical fight, some humiliation of the other side. Are we now finally at the point
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where, you know, we're going to get more of that, do you think? I think we may, you know, the Jewish
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students that I've been talking to have been saying to me, like, we're actually here, like, to learn
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things, you know, unlike many of these, like, protesters who are there to learn how to become
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protesters, right? That is what they are going to become. They're going to become, you know, the
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leaders of unions are like, they're going to go into the sort of NGO, George Soros funded, you know,
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democratic revolving door, right? Where their job is to agitate. And in fact, a lot of the students
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wrote about agitating in high school in their college application essays in order to get into
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Columbia in the first place, right? So there's this irony here where they have been doing this to the
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opprobrium and applause of the progressive adults around them their whole lives. I think they're
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probably very surprised to see this negative impact now. But the Jewish students are there,
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like, to get their degree. They're like, you know, trying to become lawyers, trying to become
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physicists, trying to become chemists, right? And so the idea that, like, that they would now
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sacrifice their education in order to do this, I think, you know, the idea that they would have to do
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that has come as a bit of a surprise. And really, they're much more focused on the academics. I will
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say, I do think that this class divide here, where, you know, being a good student gets you entree into
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one of these universities, where you can then become a kind of professional protester. And then
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from there, you know, succeed upward, fail upward into the democratic leadership, a la AOC, or what have
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you, right? Yes, exactly. This is a real pathway. And it is infuriating, not only because of the bad
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behavior of these students, you know, in their, like, kafia midriffs and so forth, but because
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the pathway to the American dream really does go through those Columbia protests. And it's so much
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harder for good, hardworking Americans who don't go to university and don't get brainwashed to achieve
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the American dream. And that is an absolute outrage that it is both the locus of this totally
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amoral, anti-Semitic, you know, pro-terrorist ideology, but also that this is one of the surest
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ways to secure the American dream. And if you choose not to do that, because you love this country,
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and you love your Jewish neighbors, you're going to struggle. I'm very bothered by that, Megan.
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The name of the student my team forwards me is Eli. The last name is spelled T-S-I-V-E-S. So
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Sivis, Eli Sivis. Good for him for speaking out. Very proud of him and the way he behaved,
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especially because UCLA has been just a mess. It's been an absolute mess. We received this
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from a source out there. This is a mom calling UCLA police because her child, her, you know,
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was trying to access his or her, I don't remember if it was a girl or a guy, uh, campus. And it was
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a boy. So take a listen to how this went in Sot7. So are the protesters allowed to not allow a student
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who pays tuition access to their class in the library? Uh, no, they're not allowed, but
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unfortunately they have kind of taken over that little area right there. But unfortunately the
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police are not, um, intervening with that right now. And this is coming from the university.
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We received a directive to not intervene at this time. At what point does UCPD get involved?
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Because if my child's safety, if your son, if your son is, needs police assistance and he,
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of course he can contact us. So I'm calling and saying he needs police assistance to get into
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his class, that people aren't letting him into his class. We're not, um, forcing them to move out of
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the area. That's what, if it's, if he needs, like if he's, if he's getting attacked or he has a police
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concern, then yes. But the fact that it's just locked off, they're not, they're not intervening with
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that right now. Yeah. We're aware that they weren't. And that we reached out to the, uh,
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police department out there in California, the LAPD, they didn't respond to us, but we were told
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that they were given a UC, UCLA, I should say. We were told that they were given a stand down order
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that they, they were told not to intervene. And there you hear for yourself. They were told
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don't help them. That's why we had situations. Here's one more soundbite for you inside eight.
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That's why we had situations like this where a juicy, where a UCLA Jewish student was refused
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access. Here it is. You don't have a wristband. Why do I need a wristband?
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They're wearing masks. They're wearing yellow construction masks.
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You guys want to prevent Jewish students from entering? Fine.
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Okay. So, so you don't let Zionists in the library that I pay tuition?
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So infuriating. I am amazed that there has not been an outbreak of all out fist fighting and
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true violence between these Jewish students and these protesters. I mean, you really want to see
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a beat down, but you don't, you don't, but there's a piece of you that's just so enraged. You'd like to
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What's so amazing to me, Megan is in clip after clip after clip, you see the look on the faces of
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the protesters. You can't see their faces because they wear masks, but like the zombified look in
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their eyes. Have you noticed that? Like the just like blank stare as they follow orders, thinking
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that they are like uniquely, you know, brilliant and virtuous and everybody else is wrong and evil
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as they blindly follow orders that they obviously like, don't have any understanding of. It's amazing
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to me. And that to me is really bone chilling more than even violence is, is that like blank stare
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that the protesters have that you get when a mob forms and people are just following mob orders.
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You know, the good news I think is, is that because UCLA is a public university, all of these students
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will now have a K a lawsuit case against the state of California, not just the university itself in a way
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that they wouldn't on a private campus, I think. But what I've been hearing from Jewish students is
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that, see, this is the problem is, you know, they will show up and protest on their own. They will
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set up their own tables. They will hold their flags. They will chalk on the ground, just like the
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pro-Palestinian protesters. But there's a double standard in how the university treats them because
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the university is not afraid of the Jewish students and the university is afraid of the Palestinian
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protesters because they see them being backed by all of this, you know, organization, by the AOC
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types, by all of this funding, by the NGOs. They're not quite sure that they will not have a much
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bigger PR crisis if they take on the pro-Palestinian students. And so there's this double standard where
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they'll hold the Jewish students to the letter of the law, but they will allow the pro-Palestinian
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students to get away with things that they would not otherwise. And that is true discrimination and
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It's like, to me, it's so emblematic of what we've seen time and time again. His belief, so he's being
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banned here, allegedly, because he believes that Israel has a right to exist. So he can't come into
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the campus for which his parents or he has paid, have paid. It's the same to me in some ways is what
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we've seen from the left when it comes to Trump, Trump supporters. They're so vile. They have to be
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kept out. We can't hear their views. Everyone related to Trump can't have a job, can't get on
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an airplane, can't publish a book after January 6th. They all must be shunned, excommunicated from
00:26:42.700
polite society. And I'm not talking about the ones who hit cops. Those guys can rot in jail. I hope they
00:26:48.660
do. I have zero sympathy for them. They're not hostages. They deserve to be punished to the maximum
00:26:53.760
extent of the law. However, there is a whole host of folks who participated in January 6th as like
00:27:01.360
just protesters who thought they were there to like root on Trump and didn't go into the Capitol who
00:27:05.460
have been treated the same as the ones who, who punched the cops. And all of them have just,
00:27:11.320
and I take it beyond J sixers because they're controversial, but just Trump, right? Like you're
00:27:17.080
not allowed in, you have the wrong belief set. And I think conservatives from coast to coast
00:27:21.680
have been feeling this for a long time. You don't believe the right things like black people remain
00:27:27.900
uniquely oppressed. Like men can become actual women. It's not just a lie. We're actually looking
00:27:36.180
at a true woman here and so on. Right. So just that scene is triggering.
00:27:42.520
Definitely. And I would take it even one step further and say the reason Trump and his supporters
00:27:48.660
have to be silenced is not because they have the wrong views, but because they have the right views,
00:27:54.300
because Trump actually agrees with where the vast majority of Americans are at on many, many issues,
00:28:00.860
whether it's abortion, whether it's, you know, policing, whether it's unions, whether it's tariffs and
00:28:07.680
trade, whether it's immigration and the economy, Trump's views reflect 70% of Americans, certainly
00:28:13.500
the vast majority of the working class and the middle class. And because of that, the left has
00:28:19.040
to amp up that he's a unique threat in this way, a unique threat in that way. Oh, did you hear what
00:28:24.480
he said on this day? Did you hear he's going to be a dictator on that day? Because they're terrified
00:28:28.820
that when the American people realize what he actually believes, they're going to abandon the
00:28:34.200
Democrats in droves, which is what we're seeing happen right now. And I would argue, Megan,
00:28:37.680
the same thing is happening with the pro-Palestinian protesters. They are not out there protesting on
00:28:43.280
behalf of the children of Gaza, because if they were, they would be doing what Dr. King did,
00:28:48.520
which is appeal to the common humanity of the average American, who is a good hearted person who
00:28:54.240
only wants everybody to have safety and security for themselves and their children. Instead,
00:28:59.580
what they do is they chant these extremist slogans straight out of Hamas's charter, you know,
00:29:05.940
intifada, intifada, from the river to the sea, straight from Hamas's charter, because,
00:29:10.560
Megan, they don't want to convince people of their cause. They want to alienate people of their cause.
00:29:15.720
They want to shrink the number of people who defend the Palestinians so that they can feel the,
00:29:20.720
like, the virtuous ones. And the average American, the middle class person with their good values,
00:29:25.940
they can sneer at them. That's why they block traffic. That's why they get in the way of Christmas
00:29:31.180
carols and proceeds, because what they want is effectively to narrow the amount of people who
00:29:38.500
agree with them so they can lord it over them. They are not trying to convince people. They're
00:29:43.320
doing the opposite. They're sneering sense of entitlement. It's actually been really fun to watch
00:29:49.480
them. They don't, they get mad when they get arrested. They get very mad because unlike the civil
00:29:55.720
disobedient folks of the past who understood part of being disobedient to our laws would mean there'd
00:30:02.840
be a punishment and they were willing to take it to make a point. I mean, you know, love them or hate
00:30:07.940
them, respect, right? You understand? Like, I'm not a big Jane Fonda fan, but she takes the arrests
00:30:14.060
when she goes out there on her wacky environmental agenda stuff time and time again. You know, she takes
00:30:19.140
the arrest. She knows that's part of the bargain. These people don't want it. They don't want the benefit
00:30:23.100
of the bargain. They only want the upside and then they want to play the victim if they're faced with
00:30:27.520
the downside. But the one thing that has made them move from campus to campus, whether it was Princeton
00:30:32.640
or last night, Yale was you're going to be expelled. Oh, they move their asses so quickly. Oh, I'm out of
00:30:39.360
here. What? Huh? Because they can't lose their credential. I mean, maybe we could tolerate a mugshot. I could
00:30:46.000
explain that to my future academic professors who want to hire me, but expulsion lose my Columbia
00:30:53.540
degree. Oh, heavens to Betsy. And so it's amazing. It's amazing to see that happen right now. It's
00:30:59.060
happening at UCLA. As I said, they sent the cops in there and now they've canceled. We just got word
00:31:03.540
classes at UCLA for the rest of the semester. They're done because they're worried the rebel
00:31:08.520
rosters will come back and start it up again. And, you know, that they can't, they can't keep
00:31:13.900
order. I mean, it's just complete chaos. Let me ask you this. How do you think this plays out,
00:31:18.720
if at all, in our presidential election? You know, Biden's issued a couple of mealy mouth statements,
00:31:24.720
but they're not bad statements, but he doesn't say them. He just issues a paper statement.
00:31:28.820
You can tell his heart's not really in it. Or if it is, they're silencing him because they're
00:31:33.420
worried about Michigan. So what do you think now here we are, what, six months out?
00:31:42.260
I think that this cannot be separated from a larger obsession with the youth vote. And as a result,
00:31:49.640
youth culture, this like worship of young people that you see on the left, that's like really appalling.
00:31:55.640
You know, you, anytime you turn on cable news, if you're watching CNN or MSNBC, they're sitting there
00:32:00.040
being like, well, we should probably understand how the young people think, right? Because they think
00:32:04.200
that that is their future success right there. But what's amazing is that young people,
00:32:08.520
are defecting from Biden to the more pro-Israel candidate, right? Trump is actually outperforming
00:32:13.960
Biden now, I believe, with young voters. And it's a direct result of policy. This morning,
00:32:20.220
President Biden announced that there's going to be even more billions of dollars spent on
00:32:25.680
$6.1 billion. $6.1 billion. Sorry, I interrupted you. On student loan forgiveness, keep going.
00:32:31.120
And it's amazing because all of these people are out there being like, how could he have done this
00:32:35.280
the morning after? We all watched these college students behaving so badly from the lap of luxury,
00:32:42.240
like people who have been denied nothing, who have been given every opportunity,
00:32:45.960
who literally have oppression envy, right? That's what we're watching.
00:32:53.020
They're envious of the Gazans for their suffering. And so they are LARPing as the oppressed,
00:32:59.860
demanding humanitarian. I mean, it's ridiculous, right? We can make fun of them till the cows come
00:33:04.360
home. But more important than these ridiculous people is the administration, the Biden administration,
00:33:10.840
and decades of Democrats who have encouraged this oppression envy, whether it's of Palestinians or of
00:33:19.360
the civil rights struggle, the noble civil rights struggle. We have inculcated this woke mind view as
00:33:28.080
an alibi to hide the upward transfer of wealth from hardworking class Americans into the pockets of
00:33:36.740
these LARPers, right? I mean, $6.1 billion in student loan forgiveness. Biden looked at last night,
00:33:43.260
he looked at these privileged students holding janitors hostage, and he said, I'm going to side
00:33:49.080
with them and put money back in their pockets. I'm going to make that janitor pay off their student
00:33:54.900
loans. To me, this is going to have a big impact on 2024, because how can you not feel the injustice of
00:34:02.860
that, of the fact that the Democrats' entire economic agenda is a plunder of the middle class,
00:34:08.460
an upward transfer of wealth from janitors to LARPers who pay $90,000 a year to walk around in
00:34:15.000
midriff keffias? And denying entry to their fellow students who don't have the right viewpoints.
00:34:21.600
What do you think they're going to do to you conservatives when they get in charge at places
00:34:25.040
like Colombia and your kid or you try to get in and say something different there? I'll end this
00:34:31.560
particular segment before we go to break with some good news. It didn't just happen at UNC Chapel
00:34:37.580
Hill, which is the South, and in my experience, tends to be very patriotic, sadly more so than
00:34:42.380
some other places Northeast. New York City is still a patriotic place. Not all the lefties,
00:34:47.360
but it still is. And the NYPD got to City College, where they were having similar nonsense happen.
00:34:54.500
And when they did, look at the boys in blue, take down the Palestinian flag and replaced it
00:35:03.560
with an American flag right there. Way to go, guys. By the way, for those listening at home,
00:35:10.960
black, white, didn't matter. They love America. They restored our flag to its rightful place.
00:35:17.500
Uh, so leave it on that quick break more. And we've got to get to, I missed it yesterday when
00:35:23.660
we, we saw it was there, but we didn't get to it. The longer segment of Kamala Harris on with Drew
00:35:29.660
Barrymore. Kamala Harris. It's like deep breathing, deep breathing. She went on the Drew Barrymore show.
00:35:41.380
And on Monday, they released a promo clip, which we played for our audience in which it was just
00:35:47.180
affectation after affectation with Drew. You know, she, for the visual audience, I I'm going to do
00:35:54.540
an imitation where I just, my microphone is Kamala and I'm Drew. Oh, oh, oh, really? Oh, I mean,
00:36:03.960
uncomfortably close, like as close as you need to be to a microphone. That's how close Drew was to
00:36:10.120
Kamala. And I felt for Kamala Harris. I did. I felt bad for her. You could tell she had
00:36:14.740
embarrassment. I had secondhand embarrassment and you could tell it was too awkward of an
00:36:18.940
invasion of her personal space. But this was Drew's attempt to show I'm Oprah. I'm Oprah. Trust
00:36:26.100
me. I'm Oprah. I get it. No, for Oprah Winfrey, it came naturally and she didn't have to force a fake
00:36:34.200
feigned intimacy. That's why she became Oprah. Okay. That's why back in her day, she was very
00:36:40.440
special and one of a kind. You're not Oprah, Drew. And your segment with Kamala Harris proved it.
00:36:46.640
So Kamala Harris on the other end is accepting this adoration as though it's real. And as though
00:36:53.000
Drew Barrymore speaks for us all for, she speaks for all American women, right? Like Kamala is,
00:37:01.340
is our leader, the feminine hero that we need, feminist. First of all, for the first time in
00:37:10.100
the Drew Barrymore television show history, they stocked the audience with all women. Here's a look
00:37:17.180
at that. Saw 13. Welcome to the show. Our guest needs no introduction. She is the first black,
00:37:26.800
first South Asian, and yes, first female vice president of the United States. Please welcome
00:37:34.020
Vice President Kamala Harris. We have all women here today in the audience. Thank you, ladies.
00:37:49.980
I just threw up a little in my mouth. I don't know. Let's just stop there. Baja, the over the top
00:37:57.640
behavior of Drew Barrymore, who everyone used to like. She was cute when she was young and she was in
00:38:02.300
his movies. And now this truly it's performance. It's bad acting. That's what we're seeing in response
00:38:09.340
to, I mean, you would have thought Jesus had just walked in the way she treated. No one feels like
00:38:14.320
this about her. Who does she think she's kidding? It was a pantomime of, you know, positive feelings.
00:38:23.500
And even for Drew Barrymore, it was extremely overdone. And when I watched that, I couldn't help
00:38:28.600
but think like, this is what happens when you're extremely, extremely wealthy. You know, what is
00:38:35.680
politics even mean to you anymore when all of your needs are being met to excess? Like when you're a
00:38:41.980
millionaire or a billionaire, you know, what is politics even mean? You don't need anything
00:38:47.240
from politicians. You don't need anything from this country. And yet somehow our elites in Hollywood
00:38:54.740
still have this need to see themselves as on the right side of history. And so instead of doing an
00:39:01.540
honest take, looking around the country and being like, hey, people really need things. I wonder what
00:39:07.200
kind of policies we should be putting in place to help people with 18% groceries inflated, right?
00:39:13.480
Instead, they do this pantomime of politics around identity because it then they don't have to talk
00:39:19.940
about the real issues. And that's really what we were seeing. There is extremely wealthy people
00:39:24.820
pretending they're on the right side of history. And like all, can you imagine how embarrassed you'd
00:39:30.080
be if your introduction included something about your color, like your race? What the fuck are you
00:39:36.940
bringing up her skin color for? You're so fucking weird. I'm sorry, but like in defense of Kamala Harris,
00:39:43.540
you couldn't find one thing she did as vice president. I might not have liked what you might cite,
00:39:49.520
but I'm sure the left, you could find something. I don't know. She went down to Tennessee after those
00:39:53.640
three pro-abortion people, you know, threw a fit. I was something. She's the first to go to Planned
00:39:58.900
Parenthood as a sitting vice president, something that the left would, her skin color is brown. I mean,
00:40:04.460
that's really what she was saying. How offensive, but you're right. That's what they worship there.
00:40:09.480
It's not like Jesus because that's not who she worships. She worships skin color, which was on display.
00:40:14.920
So then comes the following. Kamala offers the following little ditty about her name and what
00:40:22.540
her stepchildren call her. Listen here. We, um, we kind of don't use the term step because I just think
00:40:31.400
I'd love Disney. However, Disney kind of messed that up for a lot of us over the years, you know,
00:40:37.580
the evil step parent. Um, and their word for me is mamala. And so they call me mamala.
00:40:45.580
All right. That's fine. I actually think that's kind of cute. It's kind of clever. I, I fine.
00:40:55.140
I keep thinking in my head that we all need a mom. I've been thinking that we really all need a
00:41:03.960
tremendous hug in the world right now, but in our country, we need you to be mamala of the country.
00:41:11.140
And as a woman who respects so much and wants to share and wants to be confident and has no
00:41:31.140
ounce of meat that has competitiveness. Yeah. When we lift each other up, we all rise. That's exactly right.
00:41:41.140
Oh my God. That's right. That's right. That's right. However, we need a great protector.
00:41:51.040
Oh my God. She wants us to believe that that great protector who we apparently all need and
00:41:59.200
desperately want is Kamala Harris. Just once again, another word on the fake behavior,
00:42:05.080
the affectation of Drew Barrymore too close. She ran on top of her, like she's her microphone.
00:42:09.980
You can see she's on top of her. Get, get out of my personal space. And then again, with the,
00:42:17.120
I can't really do it because my Botox is too intact. I'll try to push my eyebrows. It's like that
00:42:21.900
with her eyebrows. Like, Oh, Oh, Oh, we're all so, or just hurting. You know why we're hurting
00:42:30.320
because of her policies, her policies, which are outlined in your book, by the way, second class.
00:42:35.660
So what did you make of it? No, totally. America doesn't need a hug. We need a secure border. We
00:42:41.960
need inflation to come down. We need like better affordable healthcare. You know, we need to get
00:42:47.060
rid of the diploma divide. We need to restore dignity to the working class. We need vocational
00:42:51.980
training. We do not need a hug. And you see here a real difference in like the working class culture,
00:42:58.640
conservative culture, and then liberal elite culture, you know, working class people really
00:43:04.040
value autonomy. They don't need their politicians to tell them what to believe. They don't need their
00:43:09.920
politicians to share their values or tell them how to feel about things. They just need them to enact
00:43:15.580
policy that enables them to keep more of their paycheck and buy a home. Like that's all they need.
00:43:21.380
liberals. On the other hand, they are super into politics as a kind of spirituality. And so they
00:43:29.700
need their politicians to have some sort of like spiritual, psychological, like to tell them what to
00:43:36.060
think and how to feel about things because all of their material needs are being met. Cause again,
00:43:40.440
they're wealthy. I mean, nine of the 10 richest counties vote for Democrats, like 65% of Americans
00:43:46.380
who make more than $500,000 a year. Democrats, Wall Street gave more money to Joe Biden than to Trump,
00:43:52.440
right? There's been this realignment and rich people. They look to these politicians, not for
00:43:57.760
policy, which they don't need, but for some sort of spiritual guidance because they have no sort of
00:44:03.200
internal sense of right versus wrong anymore. Thank you, universities. And that's what we're seeing
00:44:08.820
here. We're seeing a woman in Drew Barrymore trying to create some sort of idol out of this
00:44:15.920
empty shell, which is Kamala Harris, who represents only being female and being black and being Southeast
00:44:22.900
Asian, right? That she, she has no policy. She is simply this empty husk of identities because the
00:44:30.540
Democrats went all in on this to distract from their plunder of the middle class. That's what we were
00:44:36.300
seeing there. Oh, and if the nation needed a hug and never in its right mind, would it go to Kamala
00:44:45.800
Harris? Like there's nothing. That's why it failed so brilliantly, like so miserably, I guess is the
00:44:52.060
word because it was, it, it was untrue. If there had been even a nugget of truth in it, maybe it could
00:44:59.260
have landed, but it didn't because that's not who you would go to for a hug. There's nothing warm and
00:45:06.020
fuzzy and comforting about Kamala Harris. Even the left would back me up on this. So it was just
00:45:14.400
Drew Barrymore being completely obsequious because I guess she was so thrilled. She got a sitting vice
00:45:22.660
president on her show. Um, it was an embarrassment. It was almost as bad as her Dylan Mulvaney
00:45:29.100
embarrassment. Her inability to control her over emotionality is really a problem for her. And it's
00:45:36.440
a real turnoff to somebody like me, by the way. Um, most of, most of us who have had good mothers
00:45:42.240
and I realized Drew Barrymore may not be on that list because she had the stage mother who pushed her
00:45:46.660
and she was doing drugs at a very young age and all the stuff that she's come out with.
00:45:50.220
We know what a good mother does. A good mother doesn't look at you and say you're on your own.
00:45:55.400
I mean, you can't do it. You need me to step in and be your mama law who handles these problems for
00:45:59.540
you. A good mom says, you got this kid life's tough, but so are you. You're good. And that's,
00:46:05.700
that's not what Drew Barrymore needs or was asking for. She's used to a lifetime of coddling and somebody
00:46:12.340
else doing it. Here's another thing I wanted to say. This reminded me of the following, your comments,
00:46:17.240
Reese Witherspoon after Kyle Rittenhouse was acquitted. Guarantee you this woman did not watch
00:46:25.140
one minute of that trial. No one should be able to purchase a semi-automatic weapon,
00:46:31.020
cross state lines and kill two people, wound another and go free. In what world is this safe
00:46:36.120
for any of us? Reese Witherspoon with undoubtedly her security guards in her mansions and her gates,
00:46:42.980
yet another elite rich woman who has no clue why someone might actually buy a semi-automatic weapon
00:46:51.160
and feel the need to protect others. Yeah. And I think it's really important to keep pushing home
00:46:56.100
this, you know, the Democrats used to represent labor and they abandoned them to cater to the college
00:47:02.820
educated elite, the educated rich, the cultural elites in Hollywood and the dependent poor. So,
00:47:09.960
you know, when you look at every policy pushed by the Democrats, it's either appealing to the top 20%
00:47:15.260
who now control, by the way, over 50% of the GDP, thanks to the Democrats or to the dependent poor
00:47:20.940
on the bottom, which means that 70% of Americans who want that autonomy, who want the dignity of labor
00:47:28.160
are being left out in the cold because all of the culture is being produced by Drew Barrymore on her
00:47:33.260
knees, elevating Kamala Harris, who can only hurt the working class with her democratic policies.
00:47:38.840
It's amazing. It really, truly is amazing to watch these women in their cluelessness about what
00:47:47.420
America actually needs, wants, and also who's to blame. Like Drew Barrymore has no idea. She's
00:47:53.120
probably, I bet she doesn't know like how much a carton of milk costs. She probably doesn't. She
00:47:57.840
probably has somebody else do all her shopping. And that's why she just wants to cheer on this woman.
00:48:01.700
Like she's a second coming because she's got the right skin color and she's got a vagina. And those are
00:48:06.760
the things she mentioned in her big intro. It's offensive. All right, Bacha stays with us. Much
00:48:12.780
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00:49:21.620
So Bajia, the Trump trial is not in session today because it's Wednesday. So Trump is given
00:49:27.540
one day during the work week to actually campaign for president. The rest of the days he has to
00:49:35.200
spend time in court where we're getting scintillating reports about his behavior,
00:49:51.940
They have tried a number of different devices. Yeah, sleeping for a lot of it. I would say they've
00:49:57.580
tried a number of different devices to keep Trump awake, partially in response or what appears to be
00:50:02.420
in response to collective press corps observations. So for example, when there are sidebars, an attorney
00:50:07.600
doesn't leave his side anymore because leaving him alone means leaving him to potentially sleep.
00:50:12.860
He has a stack of papers with him at all times now to go through. But neither of those things
00:50:17.760
seem to have protected Trump from his own exhaustion today. More than, you know, more than not,
00:50:24.720
when I looked up to see how Trump was receiving the testimony, Trump was not receiving it at all
00:50:30.120
because his eyes were closed. I want to make a differential. We don't know if he's sleeping.
00:50:34.000
His eyes are sometimes closed. It could be because he's trying not to react.
00:50:39.240
Oh, wait, what? Aren't the entire narrative could be wrong? What? Just slip that in there at the end.
00:50:44.580
They're obsessed. There's huge close ups. And yesterday there was a report about or two days ago,
00:50:49.920
whether he was passing gas in the courtroom. And now it's on to his alleged sleeping. Oh,
00:50:56.240
or maybe not at all. Either all the time or never. That's our report. MSNBC.
00:51:01.940
Megan, you made an amazing point a few weeks ago that Trump is like a supervillain in a superhero
00:51:07.440
movie where the more you throw at him, like the bigger he gets and the stronger he gets.
00:51:11.800
And he's he has a genius for having made the right enemies. You know, if you make the right enemies in
00:51:18.460
life, you don't actually have to be that smart because they will tell you what the truth is by being
00:51:25.360
the opposite of it. And in a way, I really feel that Trump understood where the danger lies,
00:51:31.520
who the completely, totally empty, banal elites telling everybody what they should think and
00:51:37.960
believe. He understood that they were the enemy. And so he kind of positioned himself on the other
00:51:43.280
side of it. And with every step, with every day, with every report, they just reveal the emptiness
00:51:49.880
of what they are. I mean, can you imagine being this obsessed with somebody about whether he's
00:51:56.500
asleep or whether he's not asleep, whether he's passing gas, every micro expression?
00:52:03.080
It's so ridiculous. And the other point I would make is that I think conservatives tend to see
00:52:09.060
all of these attacks on Trump and think of them as a kind of coordinated effort on behalf of the
00:52:15.160
Democratic Party. But the truth is actually a lot more banal and a lot more disturbing.
00:52:20.900
There's no real coordination. It's just that every single one of these people, every single one of
00:52:26.160
these, you know, DAs and people in charge and politicians and members of the media have, you know,
00:52:33.540
main character syndrome. They think that they are responsible personally for keeping this person,
00:52:39.780
the most popular politician in America, out of office. And so they are each doing the same thing
00:52:45.960
in lockstep, like those zombified students on college campuses, but without realizing that they're
00:52:52.060
actually obeying a much larger diktat from the elites to make sure that the working class does not
00:52:59.900
get their chosen politician in office. You'd really think after Russiagate, it would have occurred to
00:53:06.100
them how they'd been used, how they were being used, but they don't care because they were also in
00:53:13.540
service of the same mission. It's like, fine. If you had told me explicitly I was being fed
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misinformation, I would have done the same thing because we all had the same goal to get Trump.
00:53:23.220
There is some coordination. There was a report just this week, by the way, that Andrew Weissman,
00:53:27.960
you know, this former FBI lawyer and Jeffrey Toobin. Everyone knows what he's famous for.
00:53:35.000
And maybe another, was it George Conway? I can't remember who the third lawyer was.
00:53:40.840
Lawrence, Lawrence Try, Bill Kristol are having weekly meetings about the Trump trial to get
00:53:47.740
their talking points straight. I mean, it's unbelievable. Like Toobin, with all his troubles,
00:53:52.800
is supposed to be a straight news legal analyst for CNN. And Weissman, same for MSNBC.
00:53:59.180
Um, you know, Conway and Kristol are partisans, so they can do what they want and say what they
00:54:04.920
want. But like, that is pretty gross. You're not supposed to get together and come up with your
00:54:11.160
talking points. Where, by the way, is the, you know, Trump supporter in their little group?
00:54:16.240
What have they done to make sure that the analysis they're about to feed? Remember CNN supposed to be
00:54:20.660
the new middle CNN? It's like gone back to its objectivity. Really? Where's George Conway used to be a
00:54:26.960
Republican, but he's not a, he hates Trump more than anybody alive. Anyway, it's just one example
00:54:31.960
of how in some instances there actually is coordination, but I, I agree with you in general.
00:54:36.260
Um, so the Trump trial goes on. They're obsessed over his behaviors. By the way, the reason Trump
00:54:41.360
was closing his eyes more likely than not is yesterday was incredibly boring. They had a guy
00:54:46.980
up from C-SPAN for hours trying to lay the foundation on how C-SPAN takes in videos because
00:54:53.680
they needed C-SPAN videos to come in at some point in this trial. Who the hell wouldn't want
00:54:57.500
he to sleep through the real C-SPAN? Nevermind the guy talking about C-SPAN. So it's ridiculous.
00:55:04.600
I guarantee you Trump won't be asleep when Michael Cohen's on the stand or Stormy Daniel. Um,
00:55:09.980
now in conjunction with all that time magazine decides to do an in-depth piece on Donald Trump.
00:55:17.720
He's on the cover sitting, looking somewhat foreboding. It's in black and white and it reads
00:55:24.840
if he wins, if he wins, it's like the OJ, if I did it. And, uh, this is time magazine's shot at what
00:55:34.840
a second Trump term would look like. They did get two interviews with Trump because even though he
00:55:40.040
knows the media hates him, he continues to give them interviews. Even the ones he knows won't be fair.
00:55:45.420
And they also had conversations they say with his closest as advisors was conducted at Mar-a-Lago
00:55:51.660
on April 12th, 12th and phone conversations on April 27th. So it's recent. Uh, the opening line
00:55:56.460
reads, Donald Trump thinks he's identified a crucial mistake of his first term. He was too nice.
00:56:03.040
What they're actually referring to is a reference he made to his former top advisors who he now says,
00:56:08.260
I was too nice. I didn't, I don't want to embarrass people. So I let them quit in my second term.
00:56:13.720
I think I would fire. I'll, I'll fire more. So, okay. Take that for what it's worth,
00:56:18.460
but it goes on to talk about things that I think we'll have some Republicans running to the polls.
00:56:26.140
Uh, I'll, he'll re-infor, re-install many of the same policies from his first term
00:56:31.520
when it comes to immigration, remain in Mexico, directing federal funding to resume construction
00:56:37.240
of the border wall, relying on the national guard to round people up and deport undocumented
00:56:42.640
immigrants. As soon as he takes office, a border security and immigration package and extension of
00:56:48.360
his 2017 tax cuts. Um, like this is going to have the right marching through all sorts of weather to
00:56:57.620
vote for the guy, but the left had a different kind of reaction to some other parts of the article.
00:57:06.140
For example, on law, he says he might fire us attorneys who refuse his orders to prosecute
00:57:13.140
someone. By the way, the political us attorneys get fired as soon as the new president comes in.
00:57:18.060
That's an Obama thing. Um, on his enemies, would he prosecute Fannie Willis or Alvin Bragg?
00:57:22.860
He demures, but offers no promises. No, I don't want to do that, but we're going to look at a lot
00:57:28.720
of things. What they've done is a terrible thing. I'm going after Biden. I wouldn't want to hurt
00:57:34.820
Biden. I have too much respect for the office, but also says that if the Supreme court says the
00:57:40.220
president does not get immunity, Biden, I am sure will be prosecuted for all of his crimes.
00:57:47.420
Time notes, Biden has not been charged with any, right? Hasn't been charged with any,
00:57:50.740
but he's committed some. That's what the special counsel found. He just wasn't charged because he
00:57:54.960
was a well-meaning elderly man. So he could still get charged. Anyway, let me give you a sampling
00:57:59.740
of some of the left wing freak out in response to this piece.
00:58:05.200
I read this big time interview this morning and it's Trump in his own words saying these scary
00:58:10.540
things. There won't be guardrails next time. So he's admitting he's going to staff a white house
00:58:14.820
in the entire federal government with either liars or lunatics.
00:58:18.000
If he is elected to serve a second term as president, he plans out loud to drag our country
00:58:24.860
into a dark new era, a place we've never been before, more closely resembling authoritarianism.
00:58:31.220
You either vote and you vote for the country you grew up in and try to fix that, or you go to
00:58:38.260
dictatorship. And it almost felt like a call to arms to his supporters. Like, you know, stand back,
00:58:42.980
stand by. This is how Hitler talked before he seized power. It is how Mao talked. It is how Mussolini
00:58:59.960
OK, I wouldn't want to hurt Biden. I have too much respect for the office. But if Supreme Court says
00:59:07.380
the president doesn't have immunity, Biden, I'm sure will be prosecuted for his crimes.
00:59:16.520
Yes. Hitler famous for saying he would never go after a political opponent, but is sure that the
00:59:21.920
justice system will be, you know, just and take due course, right? Like Hitler's famous crime. I mean,
00:59:28.100
it's so ridiculous. Megan, there was a poll a couple of weeks ago that found that 42 percent of
00:59:34.600
Democrats support rounding up illegal immigrants and deporting them. 42 percent of Democrats. And this
00:59:43.260
reveals what is going on here. The liberal media thinks that if you are not totally woke,
00:59:50.340
totally radical left, you are a fascist and don't have a right to vote. And that includes
00:59:55.840
their own voters. It includes the views of the average Democrat. There is so much contempt and
01:00:03.160
loathing for average Americans just trying to get along. And honestly, Megan, I was listening to these
01:00:08.960
quotes from Trump when he said he wouldn't go after Fonnie Willis. I was like, oh, wow, I wouldn't have
01:00:13.440
expected him to say he wouldn't do that. Right. We're like, why not? It's like very reasonable,
01:00:18.760
you know, and it's so amazing. The projection. I mean, as if they are not currently weaponizing
01:00:25.260
the justice system to go after their political opponent because he is so popular, even as they
01:00:30.700
know they are doing that, they talk about ushering in a dark new age that they have already implemented.
01:00:37.780
They have so much contempt for their viewers and so much contempt for the average American.
01:00:42.620
It just it's dripping off of everything they say and everything they do.
01:00:48.240
Yes, gosh, yes. Well said. So we pulled separately Andrew Weissman, who we mentioned is doing the
01:00:54.360
weekly call reportedly with these other lawyers to getting their messaging together. And he's one
01:00:59.700
of the biggest Trump critics. And he had the following warning. We hear this from the Democrats
01:01:05.320
a lot in the lead up to a presidential election.
01:01:08.580
I happen to believe that the Andrew Weissmans of the world actually believe what you're about
01:01:13.620
to hear this time. Listen, we are essentially, as Neil put it, one vote away from sort of the end
01:01:22.140
of democracy as we know it. That is what is so shocking is how close we are. And we are really
01:01:28.980
on the razor's edge of that kind of result. One vote away from the end of democracy as we know
01:01:38.520
it. That's what's at stake. They were discussing the Supreme Court's immunity hearing and, you know,
01:01:43.760
the potential, you know, that the Supreme Court may actually find that the president does have some
01:01:48.420
immunity for X while in office. But in any event, the over dramatization is what they try to do,
01:01:54.640
right? It's like your life as you know it, this country as you know it will never be the same if
01:02:00.680
you put this maniac in. Meanwhile, they already had him in for four years. Yeah, absolutely. And
01:02:08.160
it's just so ridiculous because when you think about the way that they talk about democracy,
01:02:14.880
they have redefined the word democracy to mean when we win and redefine the word fascism to mean
01:02:22.300
when we lose. It doesn't actually have any meaning anymore. If you said to them,
01:02:26.620
wouldn't taking, you know, a former president off the ballot maybe be a threat to democracy?
01:02:32.200
No, they literally cannot see it because in their minds, the word democracy means we win.
01:02:36.940
And we know what they do when they win. What they do when they win is upward transfer of wealth from
01:02:42.800
the working class to the rich elites. And that is what makes this all the more horrifying,
01:02:47.060
whether it's accusations of racism or accusations of threat to democracy,
01:02:51.240
what they are effectively saying is if you working class Americans don't support our plunder of the
01:02:58.080
middle class for the rich elites, you don't deserve to have a vote. You are a racist. You are a threat
01:03:04.280
to this country when the truth is the exact opposite. It is such a genius, evil play to disguise what's
01:03:11.360
truly happening here. Yeah, the they're worried about themselves. That's what they show over and over.
01:03:18.220
You know, you wrote this whole book about working class Americans because you care about them and you'd like
01:03:23.020
to shed a light on what they're actually going through. This is the reason, by the way, J.D. Vance is now
01:03:27.360
a U.S. senator and on the shortlist reportedly for Trump's vice president. I mean, it was, I think,
01:03:33.560
five, six years ago I was interviewing this guy. He didn't have a job. He had just left Peter Thiel
01:03:39.100
in San Francisco. He had graduated from Yale Law School and he was back in Ohio trying to figure out
01:03:45.160
his next move. Now he's on the shortlist for vice president of the United States. It could possibly
01:03:49.200
happen. Why? Because he too is paying attention, not to what J.D. Vance needs, but to what working
01:03:55.860
class America needs and telling the truth about their struggles. It's a very different thing over
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at MSNBC where I will bring you Nicole Wallace's chief concern about a second Trump term. Watch this.
01:04:10.580
Because depending on what happens in November, seven months from right now, this time next year,
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I might not be sitting here. I might not be a White House Correspondents' Dinner or a free press.
01:04:21.880
While our democracy wouldn't exactly fall apart immediately without it, the real threat
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looms larger. A candidate with outward disdain, not just for a free press, but for all of our freedoms
01:04:34.360
and for the rule of law itself. Did you hear that, Megan? Without the White House Correspondents' Dinner,
01:04:39.240
we will have no democracy. It's so funny. But again, what is that dinner? It's the hobnobbing
01:04:48.000
of the political elites with the media elites, with the Hollywood elites, right? All of these
01:04:53.880
liberals and leftists who sit there and get high on this fantasy that they are the good guys and
01:04:59.220
they are the virtuous against an evil, racist middle America. When the truth is the opposite,
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they have used this myth of racism in order to plunder the middle class and give themselves all
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of the rewards, this upward transfer of wealth from hardworking Americans into the pockets of the
01:05:16.440
already rich. I like the plunder word. It's working. Oppression envy was also a good one. All right,
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before we go, I want to get to, I played this in part yesterday, but we cut a lot, a longer bite
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for today. And here's what happened. Secretary of Education, Miguel Cardona, went on Capitol Hill
01:05:33.100
the other day to testify about some of the craziness we're watching. And Title IX was brought up by
01:05:39.840
Senator Hyde-Smith of Mississippi, and she got up in his grill, in particular on why girls and young
01:05:47.820
women are no longer going to be protected from having biological males come into their dressing rooms,
01:05:53.560
their bathrooms, their locker rooms, et cetera. That's just a dent of what the new Title IX
01:05:59.820
regulations not passed by any lawmaker are going to do. They take effect in August. This guy doesn't
01:06:07.520
get it. Watch. We cut a longer bite. Let's play the two minute one, you guys, and take a look at how
01:06:13.120
he handled himself. He said protecting students is number one priority for you. So I'm glad to know
01:06:19.440
that you've stated that for us today. Does this rule require schools to share the information with
01:06:25.440
parents regarding their children's gender status? Whether this rule does or not, parents and schools
01:06:31.500
should be working together. I have to tell you, the rule strengthens protections for students.
01:06:37.140
I don't necessarily agree with that. Do you investigate schools that socially transition children
01:06:42.900
without notifying students' parents? Depending on what the request is, I defer that to the
01:06:49.380
investigators at OCR whether or not to take a case. What does your department have to say about how
01:06:54.740
this rule will impact biological females, eliminating the safe spaces for women and even pushing women out
01:07:02.860
of athletics altogether? What this Title IX rule does is ensure that all students, including our LGBTQI
01:07:09.120
students, are protected. So when a biological male goes into the locker room with biological females,
01:07:17.160
do you think that that is a safe space for those young girls? When girls walk into bathrooms,
01:07:26.160
you may not be recognizing students who are transgender, but because you don't recognize them
01:07:31.200
doesn't mean that I don't protect them. I think the line of questioning is trying to create division.
01:07:35.160
What we're trying to do is protect all students. We're not trying to create division. You just said
01:07:39.020
protecting students is my number one priority. But there's a difference in boys and girls and where
01:07:44.220
they change clothes and undress. Do you agree with that? Schools make rules on how to make sure
01:07:49.160
students are safe and have privacy in our schools. And the Title IX rules just reinforce the work that
01:07:55.940
they have to do to also protect students who are LGBTQ who have, unfortunately, historically in our
01:08:01.360
country, been under attack. And we need to protect those. No one is attacking anyone right now. We are
01:08:06.940
talking about school safety and girls' locker rooms and bathrooms. So you don't need to change the
01:08:12.420
conversation that somebody's attacking someone. So your position is that they still have the safe spaces
01:08:20.980
that they deserve when biological girls are undressing. That is your position. It is my honor as an
01:08:27.560
educator to protect students who have been marginalized. And as secretary of education,
01:08:32.280
it is my responsibility to protect all students, not just some. And the same breath that you say
01:08:38.300
safety is number one. Unbelievable. I'm just writing down. It's my honor, my honor to protect students who
01:08:46.520
have been marginalized. And then he quickly adds, oh, I mean, all students, not the girls. There's so much
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in there, Badia. Title IX, his revisions, which none of us agreed to, strengthens the, quote,
01:08:57.760
protection of students. No, it doesn't. It literally only does one thing, and that is allowed
01:09:03.140
trans kids into women's spaces. Everybody else gets hurt. Young men who get accused on college
01:09:09.360
campus no longer have due process. Young women have to expose their body parts to biological men who have
01:09:14.820
access to their spaces. Do you investigate schools that secretly trans the kids, is basically what she was
01:09:20.380
asking? No. He said, oh, it's up to the investigators. The answer is no. They definitely do not do that.
01:09:25.520
That is school policy at several, several schools in throughout New York City, throughout New York,
01:09:31.080
throughout Connecticut. That's policy. Trans the kids without notifying the parents. The parents are
01:09:35.940
otherized. Like, they're hashtag part of the problem. Do you want to keep it safe for girls?
01:09:42.000
These are girls, he basically said. He said, even though you don't recognize
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them, meaning the boys, as girls, they are girls, and you're trying to create division.
01:09:54.460
There's a natural division. There is a division between boys and girls and men and women,
01:09:59.100
and we've reinforced it in particular spaces in society for a long time for very good reason.
01:10:05.160
He's a traitor. He is the policy enemy of every woman and girl out there. He should be ashamed of
01:10:13.600
himself. I know we're not impeaching cabinet officials anymore because it didn't go so well
01:10:17.760
the last time we did it, but he's a representative of his boss, and people need to keep this in mind
01:10:22.460
when they go to vote. And it's not just at the presidential level. Up and down the ticket
01:10:26.660
come November. Your thoughts on it? I think you're absolutely right. And the point I would make is this
01:10:33.740
is not a left-right issue. I will never forget, Megan, listening to your show, I don't know,
01:10:39.980
two and a half years ago. I remember exactly where I was. I was walking on the beach, and you made this
01:10:44.940
point. You said, I have nothing against any transgender individual. I respect every person's
01:10:50.480
right as an adult to choose what they want to do with their lives. I respect their choices. I respect
01:10:55.420
their freedoms. They shouldn't be discriminated against. But that has nothing to do with when
01:11:00.800
we're talking about children. That has nothing to do with when we're talking about sports or
01:11:05.640
bathrooms or protecting women. That view that you enunciated there is the view of the vast majority
01:11:12.700
of Americans, whether they vote for Democrats or Republicans. The vast majority of Americans
01:11:16.980
want transgender individuals to be protected from discrimination in the workplace, but also
01:11:22.360
only 17 percent of Americans, just 17 percent, want transgender individuals to be allowed to compete
01:11:29.340
against girls on girls' teams. But the entire Democratic Party is devoted to that 17 percent.
01:11:36.480
So the question would be, right, well, then why aren't all Americans, all of these, you know,
01:11:41.420
83 percent voting for Republicans? And the answer to that is extremely important, because they can't
01:11:47.600
afford to put this as their number one issue. And so if Republicans want to win, if they want these
01:11:52.840
voters who are now voting for Democrats but agree with them on this issue, to have the ability
01:11:58.300
to vote for them on this issue, it's extremely important that they start talking about class
01:12:03.260
and recognize that their base is working class and their base could be much, much bigger if they
01:12:08.320
talked in class terms. That's exactly right. Yes. Because like Nicole Wallace, people do ultimately vote
01:12:15.800
on what's in their own best interest. It's just the vast majority of Americans' best interest does not
01:12:21.600
line up with those espoused by Nicole Wallace there. What about my multi-million dollar job?
01:12:27.140
I might not be here. Which is that, by the way, so farcical, Trump was president for four years and
01:12:32.700
he let you keep your shitty show. He didn't do anything to you. All right. So like stop with
01:12:36.760
the catastrophizing. He would have gotten rid of you already if he wanted to, if he had the ability
01:12:41.420
to, which he doesn't. So all right, whatever. Bhatia, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for coming on
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again. Thank you so much, Megan. God bless you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, you too.
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Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.