The Megyn Kelly Show - Left Smears Kamala Critics as Racist and Sexist, and False Narratives Emerge, with Tulsi Gabbard, Michael Knowles, and RealClearPolitics Hosts ｜ Ep. 846

00:00:00.560 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:11.920 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:14.960 President Biden expected to address the nation tonight, a farewell address of sorts

00:00:19.680 for what some are calling his zombie presidency. Is he there?

00:00:24.180 You heard, I think it was Michael Brendan Doherty, was it? No, it was Jim Garrity, sorry,

00:00:27.660 the other day saying he's a pino, president in name only, at least has been for the past week,

00:00:34.980 and we don't know for how long before that. So we'll see tonight. Will he be live? Will it be on

00:00:40.260 tape? And what will his message be for the remaining six months of his presidency? Will he address

00:00:46.860 the questions about his mental acuity directly, which he did not do in his, I'm stepping down

00:00:53.440 from my candidacy letter? Meantime, Vice President Kamala Harris takes center stage in the political 0.97

00:00:59.880 conversation. This, I gotta be honest, has been insufferable. Oh my God, I'm not, you know,

00:01:06.040 I quoted this line the other day on Twitter. I can use it every day. It's Mr. Gloop from Willy Wonka,

00:01:11.760 which you know is my cultural reference for everything. And he says, I can't take much more

00:01:16.340 of this. That's me. That's all political reporters, but it's really me in response to this attempt to

00:01:23.480 rebrand everything Kamala Harris has ever done as the coolest thing we've ever seen.

00:01:29.540 She's a meme queen, declares Politico. The sycophants and the press are working overtime to

00:01:35.440 sell her to the public again as part of her rebrand. She's the fun wine aunt. She's not somebody who has

00:01:43.480 a cackle. She's not laughing Kamala. I just can't. I can't. So far, no interviews announced. That

00:01:51.120 actually is kind of interesting. Uh, and right now she's relying on others to do the work for her. 0.99

00:01:55.940 The polls are raising some red flags meantime for team Trump in the early days of the Harris

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00:03:31.520 Guys, welcome to the show. Great to be with you, Megan. Thanks for having us. Oh, it's nice to see

00:03:36.520 you all. I listened to you often, but I never get to see you. And of course I know only Tom. Uh,

00:03:42.060 I really been enjoying the show. Welcome to Sirius XM. It's great to have you guys here. I think you're

00:03:46.140 doing a wonderful job. I especially like it when Carl and Tom fight, um, whatever you're doing,

00:03:55.540 it's working. So let's talk about, since it is called real clear politics, uh, some real clear polling,

00:04:01.080 which is also a section on the website. Uh, when we came on the air yesterday, there was a poll

00:04:06.000 showing that she was struggling when it came to younger voters, which is one of the areas in which

00:04:11.820 she's supposed to be helping write the ship, but she hadn't. Uh, in fact, Trump had had some 19 point

00:04:19.080 swing from being underwater with younger voters in 2020 to being above Joe Biden by two points

00:04:26.480 in younger voters. And then was above Kamala Harris, according to the latest polling,

00:04:30.400 which only included one day post her announcement or post his withdrawal. Um, but still he,

00:04:35.100 Trump was over her 17 points. Now we get the Reuters Ipsos poll. This is registered voters

00:04:41.080 and it was conducted Monday through Tuesday. So all post his dropout and endorsement of her

00:04:46.400 head to head. It shows Harris ahead of Trump by two points.

00:04:50.620 The last poll they did was mid July showed Harris and a hypothetical at that point,

00:04:56.600 44 to 40 to Trump's 44. It was, so it was a tie. She's gone up to, and in a three-way race,

00:05:03.240 currently it's showing Harris up four points. She's at 42 Trump's at 38 RFK juniors at eight. So,

00:05:11.740 uh, Tom, we'll start with you. What do you make of the Harris favorability numbers here? It released,

00:05:18.160 uh, polling numbers here in this Reuters Ipsos poll. Yeah, there was another poll out, uh, this

00:05:24.020 morning, the NPR Marist, uh, poll, which had Trump up one point. Look, I think it's clear that, uh,

00:05:30.720 she has energized Democrats and, and, you know, numbers have gone up among African-Americans,

00:05:37.500 particularly women, uh, Hispanic voters as well in the early going, but to your point, not among young

00:05:44.000 voters. She has, uh, in the Quinnipiac poll that was released, uh, a couple of days ago,

00:05:48.100 she was at, uh, underwater 14 points among independents, which is exactly where Joe Biden

00:05:53.300 was. And we're also seeing that by that, uh, Harris is not doing as well among white voters.

00:05:59.240 And so I think, look, it's going to take some time for this to kind of settle in and sort itself out.

00:06:05.540 But, uh, and some of this may be just a temporary, you know, bump for her enthusiasm. Why she does seem

00:06:11.860 to be when Biden dropped out, he was trailing Trump in our real clear politics, national average

00:06:15.840 two-way race by three points. And right now, uh, she's at one point, she's trailing Trump by 1.6.

00:06:22.020 So a little bit of an upgrade there, but we'll see, uh, how long that lasts and, and, and where

00:06:27.680 things settle. And we're still waiting for, you know, data on these key battleground states.

00:06:32.300 Okay. But the thing is, Carl, even Trump's longtime pollster, Tony Fabrizio has, they've leaked

00:06:39.240 obviously an internal campaign memo saying, expect the Harris honeymoon that they expect to see in

00:06:46.060 the coming days as the mainstream media goes wall to wall, coronating her, as I said, in the intro,

00:06:53.300 redefining her, lifting her, celebrating her. And they see it coming too. They know it's going to

00:06:59.620 come. And then they say, but the honeymoon will end as soon as her record comes out. What do you make of

00:07:04.720 that? Well, I think that's right. The, you know, the Democrats almost had like a little convention

00:07:10.260 in terms of the press coverage they were getting right after the Republican convention, before we

00:07:14.460 could measure whether there was a bounce out of Milwaukee for the Republicans, Joe Biden's, you

00:07:19.920 know, announced he's not running. Kamala Harris is coronated. And then you, as you said, Megan,

00:07:26.120 all this, this loving coverage, it wasn't the first time, you know, when she announced,

00:07:30.640 when she ran four years ago, she got, I never seen coverage, news coverage like that. And the

00:07:38.080 campaign was mismanaged. And as you know, she didn't even make it to the, you know, starting 0.52

00:07:42.460 gate in Iowa, let alone the finish line at the convention. But this has started again. But the

00:07:48.180 other thing is, if you think about there, there's like, you know, despite this, this, you know,

00:07:54.120 revisionist history that Joe Biden is the greatest president since George Washington or Lincoln,

00:07:58.360 you know, that the Democrats are saying, and that there were four groups of people, this guy,

00:08:03.480 Biden, very low numbers for reelection, you know, what, 40% job approval rating. So there were these

00:08:10.760 four groups of Americans that didn't like the Biden administration. The first group is conservatives

00:08:16.400 and Republicans and Trump supporters who just wouldn't like a Democratic president. Second group was

00:08:21.280 people who were offended swing voters, mostly independents. Joe Biden campaigned to be a

00:08:28.320 unifying can't, you know, figure. And instead he was very hyper-partisan, very divisive as

00:08:33.320 president. And a third group of people are swing voters and independents who just thought their

00:08:36.980 record on issues like immigration and inflation was abysmal. But there's a fourth group. And that

00:08:41.600 group was, and those three groups are all going to still be critical of the hair of Kamala Harris.

00:08:47.020 But there's a fourth group of voters who just thought Joe Biden was too old. And that's the,

00:08:51.220 that's the answer. Harris is the answer to that question. And so I think a bump up on that issue

00:08:57.320 alone. You've got this guy out. He was too old to run. He's out. People were looking for who wanted

00:09:02.720 to vote Democrat, but couldn't support this guy. They can now go to Kamala Harris.

00:09:07.140 You know, Andrew, the numbers in terms of fundraising that they've pulled in over the past

00:09:12.300 couple of days are pretty staggering. Uh, it was as of yesterday, something like 81 million in donations

00:09:19.400 to Harris. Now I saw the latest figure was up over 126 million and just our report online that some

00:09:28.100 896,000 of those are from donors who had not donated anything yet this cycle. All of that is

00:09:36.900 very good news for what had been a limping democratic party, but it doesn't change, you know,

00:09:43.840 the fundamentals of the race, the policies that the Biden Harris administration put in place versus

00:09:48.980 the policies that the Trump administration put in place. And let's face it while the Republicans now

00:09:54.460 are falling more in love with Trump, his problematic behavior in the eyes of the Democrats is never

00:10:00.440 going to change, nor are these Republicans ever going to warm up to her. She's not been some,

00:10:04.940 you know, stallion in the wings that the Republicans were looking at is like, you know, I could,

00:10:09.380 I could meander over. No. So what do you make of the influx of money and how much should we be

00:10:14.200 gleaning from that given those dynamics? Well, I always think the money, especially from small

00:10:18.880 donors is important. Um, would point out, I'm waiting for Elon Musk to put up the matching, uh,

00:10:25.500 grant on his side. I mean, you know, Carl always points out, uh, money is the mother's milk of

00:10:33.500 politics. There's a lot of money this time around. So I don't, I don't put too much, uh, in the donation

00:10:40.080 numbers that are reported because they, they seem to go up no matter what happens on both sides.

00:10:44.860 Um, I think that the memo, uh, from the, uh, from the Trump campaign, the Tony's memo that you

00:10:51.480 mentioned, uh, and as a matter of fact, you can read that that's on the site this morning. It's on

00:10:55.080 real clear politics. Um, it's kind of revealing as to how they are going to approach it. Um,

00:11:01.800 what here, I'll just read you a part of it. They said the Democrats deposing one nominee for another

00:11:06.500 does not change voters discontent over the economy, inflation, crime, the open border housing

00:11:12.200 costs, not to mention concern over two foreign wars before long. Harris's honeymoon will end

00:11:18.400 and voters will refocus on her role as Biden's partner and co-pilot. I think that's how they're

00:11:24.320 going to run the race. Um, that's how I would run it. If I were them, um, you know, just tie her to 1.00

00:11:31.260 the Biden record. And, um, you know, cause we know a lot of those policies, according to our

00:11:37.280 polling, uh, the polling we see are so unpopular immigration, inflation, um, even lawfare, I think,

00:11:44.580 um, all a problem for her. And I don't see how she runs away from her role in the Biden 0.99

00:11:52.040 administration, especially for shortened campaign. You guys have seen, she's doing it with

00:11:57.380 the media's help. What borders are Tom, you've seen this. What borders are she wasn't the board.

00:12:02.520 She was, she didn't have anything to do with the border. It's actually pretty remarkable when you

00:12:06.440 look at like Axios this morning saying critics, uh, Trump supporters are trying to say she was the

00:12:11.800 borders are she was never any such thing. And then of course, Axios is own former reporting

00:12:16.520 calling her the borders are not to mention Joe Biden's statements on the record, assigning her

00:12:22.720 responsibility for the Southern border have come back to bite Axios and other, you know,

00:12:27.940 Politico and other mainstream, the AP reported. She was the borders are only now, Tom, is she

00:12:33.280 magically no longer the borders are since she's become the democratic presumptive nominee.

00:12:37.940 Yes. Uh, everything, uh, every position that she took in her 2020 race, which were, 0.96

00:12:42.540 was pretty far to the left on issues like defunding the police, defunding ice,

00:12:46.860 giving healthcare to illegal immigrants, et cetera, et cetera. All that stuff is now,

00:12:50.100 you know, you know, in the memory hole and, uh, you know, she's portraying herself and I'm sure

00:12:55.420 there's going to be when, when they get to convention in a few weeks, it's going to be

00:13:00.100 all about, you know, Kamala Harris, the tough on crime prosecutor from the Bay area. And, you know,

00:13:05.280 she's a real, uh, a fighter and she can, you know, prosecute the case against Trump. I mean,

00:13:10.180 this is what the race is on right now over the next couple of weeks to, to define her and frame her. 0.76

00:13:17.540 And, and obviously Republicans are putting together ads. We saw when Phil Wegman, our,

00:13:22.040 our, uh, white house reporter tweeted one out that he got from a political operative,

00:13:25.820 this Dave McCormick ad that's running in Pennsylvania. It's amazing.

00:13:29.060 It is amazing. And so those ads are going to be running all over the place. Um, meanwhile,

00:13:34.240 you know, Kamala Harris is going to be running her own ads, but to your point, Megan, she's getting, 0.66

00:13:38.740 she's getting a pretty good assist from the media who are playing along with this idea that,

00:13:42.220 yeah, you know, she was never a Porter's are, I was never her, you know, part of her, uh, her brief, 0.98

00:13:47.460 you know, it's going to be, it's going to be interesting to see if any of the, uh,

00:13:51.980 any of the critical coverage of her actually breaks through.

00:13:55.540 It's crazy. And we're living in this mind meld moment where three days ago, Axios and Politico and

00:14:03.920 all these other mainstream publications were doing their jobs as objective reporters,

00:14:08.340 or at least pretending to, they were doing honest reporting on Joe Biden's mental acuity and his

00:14:14.080 physical failings. And they were more interested than ever in being tough on both sides. And now

00:14:19.480 she wasn't the border czar. She's cool. So they turned her from whatever it's, I mean,

00:14:27.340 we all know what the media does, so it's just kind of amusing and somewhat irritating. Um,

00:14:31.980 meantime, Carl, what we're seeing. Yeah, go ahead.

00:14:34.420 Sorry. Well, this thing, it's the crime, it's the prosecutor, the tough prosecutor that is really

00:14:40.500 an example of collective amnesia. You know, she was in California. I'm from, I'm kept from California

00:14:46.500 when she was attorney general that passed, you know, there's a proposition passed proposition 14,

00:14:52.200 47 that, um, basically said shoplifting under $950 is no longer a felony. It's a misdemeanor.

00:14:59.340 And, but you could do it at different stores. You could do six stores in a day. It's $950.

00:15:05.560 That didn't count. And coupled with, they stopped requiring bail for misdemeanors. Then the police

00:15:11.280 stopped responding to calls, stopped people, stopped prosecutors, stopped prosecuting. Eventually the

00:15:16.380 stores stopped even calling the police. And it led to stores all over the state closing in Oakland and

00:15:21.400 San Francisco and these liberal places. Well, the, the, one of the reasons that law passed is because

00:15:26.920 it was named the, um, safe neighborhood and schools act, which is Thomas Buckley, a columnist wrote

00:15:34.080 that it might as well have been called the every, everyone gets a puppy act for all it had to do

00:15:38.080 with crime. Well, guess, guess who wrote the name? Guess who wrote that name and endorse it? Kamala

00:15:43.020 Harris, attorney general. So this tough on crime thing doesn't really, it doesn't to me comport with

00:15:49.180 the record all that well. Well, she's going to have to figure out where she's landing on that because,

00:15:54.120 you know, when she was attorney general, she did go after marijuana users. She did favor a three 1.00

00:16:03.720 strikes and you're out law. So there were no, but this, this was, this was the antidote to that

00:16:09.360 though. This was prop port. This was to clean her record of that and to get rid of that. Proposition 0.98

00:16:15.660 47 sort of California veered, it had the three strikes law and it veered under Gavin Newsom's

00:16:21.580 administration and Kamala Harris and last, last term of Jerry Brown away from that and became

00:16:26.520 more liberal on crime again. And she veered with it. She veered too, because now, you know,

00:16:32.700 in modern day, we've seen her, you know, bailing out BLM rioters and calling Jacob Blake and saying

00:16:39.580 how proud she is of him and, um, calling for defunding the police. I mean, she's like, I, so I do

00:16:45.480 wonder to your point, Tom, what message will we get at the Democrat convention? Is she going to lean into,

00:16:50.160 you know, the early days of Kamala Harris's AG real prosecutor version of herself? Or is she going 0.98

00:16:56.160 to lean into what we've seen more recently, which is more aligned with the Democrat party?

00:17:01.260 Although we'll see, because even some moderate Democrats now are seeing the folly of their

00:17:05.000 ways as crime rises and, you know, criminals return to the streets. I do want to get to this,

00:17:09.280 Andrew, the, um, one of the mind melds we're having at the moment is you've got a nominee presumptive,

00:17:16.260 I guess. I think it's fair to call her at this point of the Democrat party who not a single soul

00:17:20.340 has voted for, uh, to be the presidential nominee. Not one person in the Democrat party has voted for

00:17:26.780 Kamala Harris to be their, their Republican or sorry, their, their presidential nominee.

00:17:31.180 And now you're starting to see a little blowback from groups like BLM, which spoke out about it.

00:17:35.980 And some others quietly reportedly behind the scenes are saying, why did we do this?

00:17:40.020 The whole thing was obviously very coordinated. Was it not? Because

00:17:43.200 they're trying to say, and I'll get to this in a second. They're actually trying to say

00:17:48.280 this was grassroots. This was bottom up Chuck Schumer's on camera saying this,

00:17:54.060 but very obviously it was all coordinated by party elites in the 24, 48 or longer hours

00:18:01.220 prior to her being endorsed by Biden. Yeah. And race is a lot of interesting questions about the role

00:18:07.420 of political parties now, because a lot of people have said, gee, you know, political parties have become

00:18:12.140 so weakened over, uh, the last couple of cycles, you've got, you know, all this outside money.

00:18:18.280 What did the parties do? What are they good for? Tom doesn't even want them to hold conventions

00:18:22.320 anymore. He thinks that's a waste of time. So Megan, you don't know this, but Tom also

00:18:27.600 dislikes the state of the union. He's a pretty curmudgeonly guy. He's right. Let's go back to the

00:18:33.060 written statements. Thank you, Megan. Thank you. You want the letter sort of, you know,

00:18:38.000 delivered by carrier pigeon. That's right. But, um, but so, you know, but you have raised a really

00:18:43.580 interesting, interesting question, which is that was this all baked and did the party step up in a

00:18:48.900 way? And when you ask that question, then you have to ask what, what is the party? Um, it certainly

00:18:54.540 seems to me that all this work in advance of, of Biden, uh, um, resigning from the campaign,

00:19:01.740 uh, that all of this was worked out, uh, and that, uh, Kamala Harris was at the end of the day, 0.99

00:19:07.860 the, uh, the bet that they're making, because, you know, you have to see it two ways. One is if

00:19:13.100 they don't put her in the chair immediately, do you end up with chaos or do you end up with what I 0.95

00:19:19.280 think the BLM folks are talking about, you know, a sort of process that, um, you know, strengthens her

00:19:26.020 because she's, it's a trial by fire. It's, it's small d democracy, right? So I think, um, what we,

00:19:32.500 what we're going to have, I think the problem she's going to have is, as you say, no one actually

00:19:37.320 voted for, although the Democrats will say that, look, you know, all these people voted for Biden

00:19:42.460 Harris. She was on the ticket. Um, so they were really voting for her. Um, I think that's a tough

00:19:48.180 argument to make, but I think that, um, in the second, you know, the lady in waiting, keep going.

00:19:54.060 Yeah. Yeah. But without, without going through the sort of cauldron of a, of a, a primary, she's

00:20:00.520 really sort of stepping into, you know, it's going from zero to a hundred miles an hour. Um, very few

00:20:06.580 people I think have the political skills to pull this off. And I just think given her performance

00:20:11.740 the last time around, you'd really have to wonder whether she's the one who's going to be able to

00:20:15.960 sort of step into a general election, um, and appeal to, you know, independent voters and, you know,

00:20:22.460 disgruntled Republicans, all the people she has to win in order to win those swing states where the 0.98

00:20:28.280 whole thing will be decided. You know, Tom, Andrew accurately says that they were thinking in the

00:20:33.260 elite circles of the democratic party, you know, it could be chaos if we open this up. Another word

00:20:39.480 for that is just democracy, just allowing people to vote. And, you know, yes, we understand Biden had

00:20:45.460 to go. I was a big supporter of it. I think you guys were too listening to the, to your show.

00:20:49.200 So, um, that was obvious, but then there should be the chance to vote. Then, then it's up to the

00:20:54.540 Democrats to replace him and decide who they want to be their nominee. That just did not happen.

00:21:01.180 And the Republicans are exploiting it. Team Trump is out there every day calling this a coup.

00:21:06.180 You know, what about democracy? I thought you guys cared about democracy. This isn't Democrat

00:21:09.720 democracy. And then you get this from Chuck Schumer. Would you look at this? That is so mockable

00:21:18.660 on so many levels. Just watch and enjoy. President Biden's selfless decision has given

00:21:26.300 the democratic party the opportunity to unite behind a new nominee. And boy, oh boy, are we

00:21:33.400 enthusiastic. When I spoke with her Sunday, she said she wanted the opportunity to win the nomination

00:21:39.900 on her own and to do so from the grassroots up, not top down. She would work to earn the support of

00:21:48.600 our party. And boy, has she done so in quick order. So now that the process has played out

00:21:56.360 from the grassroots, bottom up, we are here today to throw our support behind Vice President Kamala Harris.

00:22:05.460 I'm clapping. You don't have to. It's a happy day. What can I say?

00:22:15.060 Oh, boy. Is that or William?

00:22:20.420 Where do we begin? His selfless decision. That's one. Boy, oh boy, are we enthusiastic with the fist

00:22:29.960 pumping everything? Then then she wants to win it on her own from the grassroots up. And then 1.00

00:22:37.740 in quick order, she's done it. Now the process is played.

00:22:44.400 No. So this is such a bunch of nonsense as a grassroots bottom up. The process played out

00:22:49.500 when you were asleep on Sunday night. The process played out, Tom.

00:22:53.280 Right. Behind closed doors with Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama sort of calling the shots. But let's

00:22:59.180 remember, Megan, how the Democrats got here. They rigged the primary calendar. They circled the wagons

00:23:05.940 around Joe Biden early, early on. They did everything they could to marginalize RFK Jr. and dissuade anybody

00:23:14.960 from running against Joe Biden. If Joe Biden had actually managed to have a legitimate challenge,

00:23:22.560 he might not have won this primary on his own. And I would dare to guess that if Kamala Harris had been

00:23:28.960 running in that primary as well, she wouldn't have won either. I mean, the Democrats, the data was clear.

00:23:35.320 Plenty of folks, including plenty of Democrats, had concerns about Joe Biden's age and his mental

00:23:39.800 acuity all throughout this process, even before it started. But the Democrats would have nothing of that,

00:23:44.560 would hear nothing of that, and really set up the process so he was their only choice. I mean,

00:23:49.480 Dean Phillips wasn't really a viable option. And so that's how the Democrats ended up with this mess

00:23:55.600 that they're trying to clean up now. And they're doing it by, I mean, some people are calling it a

00:24:00.920 coup, but you can certainly call it, you know, it happened in a, maybe not a smoke-filled room,

00:24:06.720 but certainly behind closed doors as they made this decision and basically told Biden that he's,

00:24:13.560 you know, he's got to be out. Given the age of our leaders on, on both sides,

00:24:18.260 but in particular, the group you just mentioned, it was probably an oxygen filled room with complete

00:24:22.860 with tanks. Yeah.

00:24:25.960 Yeah. I'd like that way. I, I, uh, would be remiss if I did not take a walk over to the Republican

00:24:31.300 side and see how they're doing. We talked about the polling, but we should spend a minute on JD Vance

00:24:36.640 who had a bit of a stumble on his first week out of the gate when he was speaking in front of a,

00:24:44.500 uh, uh, rally crowd in Ohio. I gotta be honest. I still don't understand the joke. I heard it

00:24:50.660 yesterday. I think I might've heard it the day before. I don't get the joke. He was making some

00:24:54.880 sort of a joke about diet Mountain Dew. I know from his book that Mountain Dew mouth is a thing that is

00:25:02.840 prevalent in the area that he grew up, uh, because they, they give it to kids in their baby bottles.

00:25:09.160 They give it to toddlers. It's very high in sugar. It's very, very bad for you. And this is one of

00:25:14.860 the things he raised and he had Pepsi in his own soda bottle in his own baby bottle. He's talked

00:25:18.540 about that as well as just like sort of an example of how there's sort of a class of people that's been

00:25:26.080 forgotten and overlooked. And some of their lifestyle habits are really not that healthy

00:25:32.220 for children, but no one gives a damn about them. Okay. So I don't know whether that is being tied to

00:25:37.940 here. I'll let you hear him trying to make the joke. It did not go over well and he's getting

00:25:43.500 panned for it by the left. So it is the weirdest thing to me. Democrats say that it is racist to

00:25:51.480 believe, well, they say it's racist to do anything. I had a diet Mountain Dew yesterday and one today.

00:25:58.000 I'm sure they're going to call that racist too, but it's good. I love you guys.

00:26:10.280 It was fine. It was like a smattering of applause. It wasn't like a huge applause line, but

00:26:16.400 what's happening there? Because I have seen this covered on every show over on CNN and MSNBC.

00:26:23.740 Megan, you're overthinking it. It's not nothing to do with diet Mountain Dew or whatever. He's

00:26:29.860 just saying anything he does, they'll call racist. And on Morning Joe today, he criticized Kamala

00:26:35.860 Harris and the commentators who say he's not only racist, but misogynist. And so basically what they're

00:26:41.200 saying is you can't criticize her at all without being called these names. I think he was trying to

00:26:46.320 nip that in the, but he didn't, it didn't work. I, but I have to tell you, I'm still trying to

00:26:50.900 understand Donald Trump's Hannibal Lecter joke from the convention. So I, I'm one step behind.

00:26:57.480 I mean, he, I got the joke. He wants to have you for dinner. I got that. I didn't understand what

00:27:02.020 he was doing in the speech. Exactly. Yeah. We took a weird turn. All right. So they're going to try to

00:27:08.900 paint J.D. Vance as, you know, Trump Jr. and just as racist and sexist and terrible as Trump. 0.99

00:27:14.840 Um, and the Republicans are sticking with the version of Kamala Harris that, you know, 0.94

00:27:18.620 she's made of herself and that we saw represented even in the New York times, uh, as prone to gaffes 1.00

00:27:25.000 and mean, you know, a bully, uh, when it comes to her staff, virtually everybody who's ever worked for 0.96

00:27:30.820 her has quit. So does any of this matter, right? Or is it going to wind up being immigration 0.78

00:27:37.840 inflation versus Trump and his colorful personality that viewers or that voters came to get a little

00:27:46.960 sick of by the end of his first term? What do you think? What do you guys make of that?

00:27:52.720 Well, um, I mean, people don't remember this, but, uh, I always think about triangulation,

00:27:58.500 which was what Dick Morris was talking about with, uh, with the Clinton administration or Clinton

00:28:04.360 campaign. I think it's going to come down to who can appeal to those voters in the middle who are

00:28:12.080 still on the fence. There are only a few of them, but they're very important in the swing states.

00:28:16.280 And I don't see right now, any evidence on either side that either team is sort of thinking in those

00:28:22.520 terms and willing to go after that. I think that the, the choice of J.D. Vance for vice president

00:28:27.760 shows that Trump is going to stay in his lane. I think that Kamala Harris is going to have very,

00:28:33.940 uh, a lot of trouble trying to sort of move to the center given, uh, not only who she is and her 0.66

00:28:40.040 experience, but, uh, who she owes right now within the, uh, Democratic party. So, um, to answer your

00:28:47.700 question, it probably will come down to those issues, but it really comes down to who will appeal

00:28:52.360 to those voters in the center. Those few voters are left in those critical swing states. That's

00:28:58.040 you. Now, wait, before you guys go, I've, I would be remiss if I didn't ask you about Susan Crabtree,

00:29:02.200 who's been just owning the reporting around the secret service failures and with respect to the

00:29:09.000 Trump assassination attempt. And she was in a very public battle with the secret service spokesperson

00:29:14.560 who was out there arguing with her on behalf of his now soon, you know, resigned boss, um, Kim

00:29:21.940 Cheadle saying you're wrong. She was reporting that her sources in the secret service were saying

00:29:26.480 Trump had asked for more security. It was denied. They said, you're wrong on the record. Absolutely

00:29:31.200 false. Myorka said it. Crabtree was receiving this from him, from, um, Cheadle and the spokesperson.

00:29:37.840 Now we know she was right. Now they've been forced to admit it. And I heard her on your show

00:29:44.480 yesterday saying something even more remarkable, which I didn't hear anywhere else. I have been saying

00:29:51.800 on this show that the biggest thing I want to know, I'm open to the DEI criticisms of the secret

00:29:58.000 service. I get how the five foot six woman didn't, did not look like the best choice to guard the six 1.00

00:30:02.980 foot three man, even though she was brave and she put herself in front of him. There's a height

00:30:06.580 differential. It's probably not the best choice, but what I've been saying on this show all along is

00:30:10.280 what's most important is figure out who put that build building outside the secret service perimeter,

00:30:14.780 who made the decision that that building, the shooter was on did not deserve, you know,

00:30:20.340 frontline coverage by the secret service. Was that a man? Was that a woman? Was that an

00:30:23.940 experience? Who was that? And Susan knows she has the answer. Here's a clip from her on your podcast

00:30:30.820 and Sirius XM show yesterday. So at 16, the perimeter is a huge glaring mistake. And from what I'm told

00:30:38.620 is a very young, a female secret service agent new to the Pittsburgh office with not that much 0.99

00:30:45.400 experience is the person who is the site manager, who is determining the perimeter of that event.

00:30:51.400 That was a glaring mistake as well as not putting somebody on that building in any way.

00:31:00.140 That's amazing. So it was a young, not just a female, that female is fine. We can do planning 0.93

00:31:05.140 just as well as a man can, but young and inexperienced who made the call. And yet Kim Cheadle

00:31:11.960 wouldn't reveal her name. Guys, that's, that's a big report. Well, you know, I woke up Sunday

00:31:17.560 morning, the Washington Post had this lead story in their paper. Trump asked, Trump team asked for

00:31:22.940 more security is first reported here at the Washington Post. And I thought, God, that's odd.

00:31:27.260 Susan had that five days ago. I know this because I edited the story. So yeah, but I guess this is

00:31:33.020 their way of saying, and, and yeah, and you pointed out, Megan, they denied it on the record,

00:31:38.320 her reporting. So this wasn't a big secret, but I'm glad you give credit to her because she's,

00:31:42.760 she's worked hard this week and broken all these stories. And the, this cascading series of security

00:31:47.960 lapses at the secret service, it costs Kim Cheadle her job. My guess is that she won't be the last

00:31:52.660 person to have to leave that agency. So is Susan, I guess she's got just deep sources within the,

00:31:59.200 within the secret service, but do you think at some point we're going to be hearing actual names?

00:32:03.660 I realized there will be a public pile on. I have some sympathy for that, but not much because,

00:32:09.500 you know, a man is dead and a presidential candidate was almost shot dead in front of our

00:32:13.960 very eyes. So I do think we need names and there needs to be accountability. And it sounds like we're

00:32:18.060 going to need to rely on Susan and maybe Dan Bongino to get us there. Well, when you say the buck stops

00:32:24.460 with me, that has this, you know, Cheadle director Cheadle said, what does that mean? If you don't

00:32:30.600 willing to take, it means you have to resign. That's what it means. There should be more

00:32:34.500 resignations. There will be some firings. And it, you know, Megan, it, it heartened me a little bit

00:32:39.200 at that hearing on Monday, Jamie Raskin was just as tough on the secret service as, uh, uh, chairman

00:32:44.840 Comer. I mean, the, the, the Democrats actually realized this is a problem for the whole country,

00:32:50.080 not just one, not just one party. Okay. I'm going to let you go, but I'm asking you just quickly

00:32:55.240 before you go, they do this over on our pals, the editor's podcast. What would you put it at

00:33:00.400 right now? Just quick round the clock, the odds of president Trump beating Kamala Harris. How do

00:33:06.300 you like it at a, you know, one through 10, what are the odds, Tom? Uh, 60, 40. Megan, I'm stuck.

00:33:12.140 Cause I, I, I'm stuck. Cause I said in a meeting with me and Andy and Tom, that Kamala Harris is the 0.86

00:33:16.260 next president of the United States. So that's my story. And I guess I'm sticking with it.

00:33:19.920 Wow. I go by, I go by the RCP betting odds, uh, which we average on the site every day. And I

00:33:26.720 think, uh, as of now, I think it's about a 33% chance for, uh, Kamala Harris and a 57, 58% chance

00:33:35.600 for, uh, Trump. And, uh, I don't know who makes up those other couple of points, but that, I think

00:33:41.720 that sounds about right to me. All right. A hundred days to go. And then some great to see you all come

00:33:48.200 back again. Thank you, Megan. Thanks. All the best. And when we return, Tulsi Gabbard is back

00:33:54.520 with me. She was the one who effectively took Kamala Harris out of the presidential race back 1.00

00:34:00.520 in 2019. You know, she was on the show recently talking about that. She hasn't weighed in since

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00:34:46.860 there as well. President Biden's selfless decision has given the Democratic Party the opportunity

00:34:55.420 to unite behind a new nominee. And boy, oh boy, are we enthusiastic. When I spoke with her Sunday,

00:35:02.980 she said she wanted the opportunity to win the nomination on her own and to do so from the

00:35:10.080 grassroots up, not top down. She would work to earn the support of our party and boy, has she done so 0.95

00:35:18.600 in quick order. So now that the process has played out from the grassroots bottom up, we are here today

00:35:27.740 to throw our support behind Vice President Kamala Harris. I'm clapping. You don't have to.

00:35:38.700 It's a happy day. What can I say? And they didn't clap. And for the listening audience, while he's doing

00:35:44.800 this bit, he's pumping his fist like, yay, we can do it. Both fists together. Swing, swaying, bottom up,

00:35:52.740 grassroots, just in case you didn't hear. Welcome back to the Megan Kelly show. Who better to talk about

00:35:59.240 all of this with than my next guest, Tulsi Gabbard. She was a 2020 presidential candidate on the Dem 1.00

00:36:06.420 side, and she is author of the book for love of country. Leave the Democrat Party behind. So you know

00:36:10.640 how things went over there. Tulsi, great to have you back, especially so soon. But why shouldn't we given

00:36:15.780 the monumental developments since you were last on? This was a grassroots bottom up quote process

00:36:24.300 that was really given to the voters, just in case you weren't aware, definitely not top down. True?

00:36:32.340 Yeah, sure. If you buy what Chuck Schumer is selling, which I don't for a second. I was laughing as you

00:36:39.200 play that clip, Megan, because, gosh, it's just so telling in so many ways, ending with him being

00:36:47.200 the only guy clapping. It really said it all. Like loyal Democrats and campaign operatives,

00:36:52.400 nonetheless. Exactly. Exactly. It really said it all about who's actually made the decision here.

00:37:00.500 And it's not the rank and file Democrats. And we got to go all the way back to when the Democratic

00:37:06.400 presidential primaries were supposed to occur. Stark contrast to when I ran in 2020 in that

00:37:14.100 presidential primary where you actually had primaries. And there were a lot of different

00:37:18.540 choices from voters to select from. How that pre-curation and pre-selection process occurred

00:37:26.420 between the Democratic Party and the mainstream propaganda media back then is another topic for

00:37:32.480 another conversation. But at least there were many names on the ballot and voters had the opportunity

00:37:37.800 to go and cast their vote for the candidate of their choosing. In this election now in 2024, many states

00:37:44.360 didn't even have primaries. We actually had a few people who stepped up to run against Joe Biden in

00:37:51.020 the primary election. And their names were not allowed to be on some ballots in these states. So to say

00:37:57.540 that, first of all, there was even a Democratic process to select Joe Biden to be the nominee

00:38:01.820 is a pure lie. And that lie is continuing on now as they try to create this new narrative and this

00:38:10.040 facade of how the Democratic Party is going to the grassroots from the bottom on up to select Kamala

00:38:15.820 Harris as the nominee. None of that has happened. What are we at? It's Wednesday now. This announcement

00:38:22.240 was just made that President Biden was not going to run on Sunday. Where was the bottom up grassroots

00:38:27.800 voices being heard and votes being cast now for Kamala Harris to be the new Democratic nominee?

00:38:34.360 It's a lie. It hasn't happened. They have decided that she will be the nominee, but they're trying to

00:38:40.560 pretend as though that this is a decision being made by the American people are certainly Democratic

00:38:45.100 primary voters to try to bolster her position rather than seeing it for what it actually is, which is a 0.94

00:38:51.240 coronation by the Democrat elite who've been calling the shots for Joe Biden, who's been a

00:38:57.640 figurehead for the Democrat elite for the last three and a half years. And now they see in Kamala

00:39:02.040 Harris, someone who will continue to be a figurehead and who will who will do whatever they tell her to

00:39:07.480 do. That's exactly right. She's going to owe them. She's going to owe them big. It's right on brand,

00:39:12.900 though, Tulsi, for the Democrat Party and what we've seen recently, where we've just been through

00:39:17.300 years of them telling us not to believe our lion eyes when it came to Joe Biden's decline.

00:39:22.680 And then when it was no longer, you know, they were no longer capable of hiding it.

00:39:27.200 And Kamala subs in, don't believe your lion eyes that this looked like a top down effort. 0.97

00:39:32.620 You know, she was made the nominee by Fiat. You guys really actually voted for it. This came from

00:39:38.100 you, the grassroots. And I have to say, of all the ones who object, finally, you see BLM

00:39:43.100 coming out and saying, this is not OK. She's been placed in there. We object to this. We do not

00:39:50.200 support her. And shouldn't there be at least the semblance of democracy here? I mean, this might be

00:39:55.320 the first time I've agreed with the messaging coming out of that group. It is it is very telling

00:40:02.260 again, and it's a continuation of two things. Number one is across the entire Biden-Harris

00:40:08.580 administration. They have consistently shown that that they believe if they say something

00:40:13.980 that it is somehow true. And number two, that we, the American people, are stupid enough to buy what 1.00

00:40:21.560 they're saying and not pay attention to what they're doing. We've seen this dramatically with 1.00

00:40:28.080 their open border policies over and over again for the last three years. President Biden, Kamala Harris,

00:40:33.600 Secretary Mayorkas, over and over again, telling the American people, the border is secure. The

00:40:38.580 border is secure. There is no crisis at the border. Don't worry about this. There's nothing to see

00:40:43.400 here, folks. And then all of a sudden, because they see voters are looking at what's actually

00:40:47.320 happening, they're not buying their lie. President Biden does this last minute political election year

00:40:52.540 executive order to try to crack down on the on the border and actually acknowledge, well, actually,

00:40:57.580 no, it wasn't secure, but it's the Republicans' fault and it's Trump's fault. It doesn't make

00:41:03.460 sense in any way, shape or form. They did the same thing with our economy. Bidenomics is working

00:41:08.040 great. It's one of our greatest success stories. The economy is going to be great. The recession is

00:41:13.040 not going to last very long. It's just a temporary thing. Don't worry about it. Nothing to see here.

00:41:17.920 Meanwhile, everyday Americans are noticing that they can afford less and less every time

00:41:22.380 you go to the grocery store, recognizing that our economy is not doing very well. Everything

00:41:27.320 costs more now. And when are these prices going to fall? When is inflation going to go down

00:41:32.420 in enough of a way that makes it so that people can not have to be so concerned about how to cover

00:41:37.600 the basic expenses of everyday life? We're seeing the same thing happen here. I think this statement

00:41:43.680 from Black Lives Matter is very telling because they're speaking the truth, first of all, but second

00:41:49.500 of all, also that it shows that they expect Black voters to fall in behind Kamala Harris lockstep,

00:41:57.000 once again, playing the identity politics game, rather than actually looking at what are the issues?

00:42:01.740 What are the issues that are of concern to African-American voters, to different demographics

00:42:07.920 and constituencies across our country? They're not actually focused on solutions to the real

00:42:13.260 challenges we face, once again, focused on what they say and hoping we fall for the lie and the optics

00:42:20.560 of what they're presenting that are not reflective of the truth of the world and country that we live in

00:42:26.060 today. So on the subject of the economy, I believe that this is one of the reasons Democrats are

00:42:33.040 struggling so mightily. And I think it's so far we've seen Harris as well. It's only been days.

00:42:37.980 So take it with a grain of salt with young people because they're being directly affected. They can't

00:42:43.580 get into the economy. They can't get anything close to a running start. They're dragging. They can't find

00:42:49.040 jobs. I also happen to believe the over the top DEI messaging that these young people have grown up

00:42:54.940 with and been immersed in in high school and college has turned a lot of them on these Democrats.

00:43:00.300 They don't want their skin color and their gender and their whatever shoved down their throats. 1.00

00:43:06.120 But look at this report from CNN. I've got two soundbites here from this guy, Harry Enten,

00:43:10.720 who watches the polls carefully for them. They're very interesting, Tulsi. We'll play the first one

00:43:15.600 and then we'll go to the second watch. Joe Biden won voters under the age of 35 by 21 points.

00:43:21.380 What do we see with Kamala Harris? Well, she's still ahead, but the margin here is significantly

00:43:26.520 less than what we saw with Joe Biden back in 2020. She's up by just nine points. You may make the

00:43:32.020 argument that was better than Biden was doing before he got out. But compared to that Democratic

00:43:36.240 baseline where Democrats have historically in presidential elections, at least this century,

00:43:40.460 been carrying that young vote by 20 or more percentage points, she is way down from

00:43:45.520 that. Democrats say they're more motivated to turn out after Biden left the race. Well,

00:43:49.780 we do see a significant portion of Democrats who say, yes, 39 percent. The thing I was interested in

00:43:54.420 was it disproportionately younger voters who said that they were more likely to turn out or more

00:43:59.260 motivated to turn out. And what we see here is it's 42 percent, not a big difference between 42

00:44:04.360 and 39 percent. So this idea, again, that the vice president has unique potential to dig in

00:44:10.120 and get young voters to turn out, John, it's just not there in the numbers, despite all the

00:44:15.720 Internet memes that are going around. They've only gotten a three point bump with young voters

00:44:21.380 on enthusiasm since they announced her. Let me play the second one, because this speaks more to

00:44:27.220 party identification. And you and I both know you used to be a Democrat. I did, too. Yeah.

00:44:33.080 Um, when you're young, that's when the Democrat Party is kind of usually most appealing. Not

00:44:39.620 necessarily right now. Look at this. I want to look at party identification again. Voters under

00:44:45.620 the age of 35. Go back to 2020. This is the Pew Research study. This is one of the best studies

00:44:50.480 that we have. And look at that. Fifty six percent of young voters said that, in fact, they were

00:44:55.640 Democrats. They identified as Democrat or lean Democratic. You look down at 2024, it's 49 percent.

00:45:00.940 Look at the Republican jump from 39 to 49 percent. So when we say that Harris is doing worse than

00:45:06.400 Biden, it's not that she's uniquely bad. It's rather she's fighting uphill. She's trying to fight 0.60

00:45:11.060 against a wave that is going against the Democrats among young voters. And Harris may be unique in

00:45:15.580 some ways. Maybe she does slightly better than the generic Democrat, but not all that much.

00:45:21.100 So for the listening audience, it shows that the the Republicans used to be at a significant

00:45:26.000 disadvantage in getting young people to vote and register Republican. And it's been

00:45:30.240 completely erased. And Democrats have gone from having forty nine percent of the young

00:45:35.640 voters registered as Democrat to just 30. They've lost 10 percentage points on off their share.

00:45:42.480 So you explain that one to me, Tulsi, because that's that's a problem for them.

00:45:47.460 You know, what's what I think is is encouraging of what we're seeing here is that you have young

00:45:52.640 people who are are questioning. They're not just accepting whatever they're being fed.

00:45:57.660 Again, we can't cast a broad brush and say all young people, this or that. But but it's encouraging

00:46:03.120 to see that there are more young people who are not just accepting at face value what the

00:46:08.180 Democratic leader saying when they say, hey, a boy can become a girl simply by declaring that is so

00:46:14.740 and that boys should be allowed to compete in girls sports. I think people are actually this is young

00:46:21.280 people, but I think across the board are recognizing the literal and pure insanity of these woke radical

00:46:30.260 ideologies of the Democrat elite are not only advocating for, but pushing and mandating in our

00:46:36.200 schools. The fact that in some schools now, for example, a track team in my home state of Hawaii,

00:46:42.860 a girls track team now has half of the team, half of the entire team are biological males competing on

00:46:51.380 a girls team, taking away those opportunities from our young women and girls. Every I think every

00:46:57.420 rational, open minded person would look at this kind of example and just say, this is insanity. It's

00:47:04.080 crazy. And so this you mentioned some examples with regard to the economy. You look at examples

00:47:09.840 related to our open borders and how it's not just the border states now that are feeling the

00:47:15.860 effects and impacts of the almost four years of open border policies under the Biden-Harris

00:47:20.740 administration. It's small towns. It's rural communities. I was in Montana recently and was talking to some

00:47:27.020 folks there. This is Montana. You couldn't get farther away from the border on any coast or the southwest

00:47:33.220 than Montana. And even there, they are being impacted by the illegal immigration crisis and an

00:47:38.820 increasing presence of criminal activity by the cartels who have taken a stronghold there.

00:47:44.760 It is harder for everyday Americans, young people who are usually not affiliated, attached to an

00:47:52.020 affiliation of one party or another from a generational standpoint. So it's encouraging to see how people

00:47:57.940 are using their common sense, being critical thinkers, being independent minded thinkers about,

00:48:03.360 okay, well, which party and which candidate is more accurately representing common sense and what is

00:48:10.440 actually in the best interest of themselves, their families, their communities in our country?

00:48:16.020 I was just talking to a couple of young people, young and in college, and they were, each one of them,

00:48:22.380 three guys, all telling me they had had furries in their high school and seeing them at college,

00:48:29.300 that the kids regularly showing up wearing cat ears and tails and outfits and pretending that they

00:48:35.920 were an animal during school hours. And all three of these young men happen to be white. 0.71

00:48:41.460 They have zero question that this is a disadvantage for them in seeking job opportunities that in

00:48:47.460 interview after interview, we're going in another direction, going in another direction. And invariably,

00:48:51.980 they hire somebody who's got some sort of identity that the box that can be checked.

00:48:55.980 But I really think this is having electoral consequences for the Democrats and it's showing

00:49:01.240 up in some of these polls. And I think even they are going to realize this. I don't know whether

00:49:05.880 they'll actually do anything about it though, because they're so mind melded, mind melded into this

00:49:09.960 ideology. I'm going to take a break and I'm going to come back because there's a lot more to get to.

00:49:13.860 I want to get to Kamala Harris and who she is on the, on the crime issue. Because as I was pointing out,

00:49:20.340 she, she supposedly has this tough history from California, but when she was elevated to vice president, 0.92

00:49:25.620 her messaging changed dramatically. And now even her party is starting to change on the issue of

00:49:32.320 crime because it's gotten so bad. And even Democrats are realizing defund police is not a

00:49:37.500 good message. So what the hell is she going to do? What's she going to say? Which, which one's going

00:49:44.420 to emerge? I'll leave that as a tease. Quick break back to Tulsi Gabbard. When we come back,

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00:51:00.220 Senator Harris says she's proud of her record as a prosecutor and that she'll be a prosecutor

00:51:05.000 president, but I'm deeply concerned about this record. There are too many examples to cite, but

00:51:10.040 she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was 1.00

00:51:15.020 asked if she ever smoked marijuana. She blocked evidence. She blocked evidence that would have 0.88

00:51:21.960 freed an innocent man from death row until the courts forced her to do so. She kept people in 0.97

00:51:27.760 prison beyond their sentences to use them as cheap labor for the state of California. And she fought 1.00

00:51:33.200 to keep cash bail system in place that impacts poor people in the worst kind of way.

00:51:39.320 As the elected attorney general of California, I did the work of significantly reforming the criminal

00:51:47.160 justice system of a state of 40 million people, which became a national model for the work that

00:51:51.920 needs to be done. And I am proud of that work. The bottom line is, Senator Harris, when you were in a

00:51:56.460 position to make a difference and an impact in these people's lives, you did not. And worse yet,

00:52:02.260 in the case of those who were on death row, innocent people, you actually blocked evidence from being

00:52:08.500 revealed that would have freed them until you were forced to do so. There is no excuse for that.

00:52:13.480 And the people who suffered under your reign as prosecutor, you owe them an apology.

00:52:19.580 So that was the July 2019 debate in one of the most memorable exchanges in recent history between

00:52:26.400 now presumptive Democrat nominee Kamala Harris and our guest today, Tulsi Gabbard, former U.S. 0.89

00:52:32.220 representative as a Democrat and author of For Love of Country. Tulsi's had a just very negative

00:52:39.480 experience with these Democrats who are now pulling the strings around Kamala Harris, too.

00:52:44.800 But, you know, we went back even though we're friends and we fact checked everything you said

00:52:49.160 100 percent accurate. There isn't one word of that that was off. And it was pretty telling that she

00:52:56.620 didn't deny it. She just tried to pivot to I'm proud of my record. And so now she really is at a

00:53:03.740 crossroads here because she's got to figure out whether she wants to be the no cash bail is a good 1.00

00:53:09.140 thing. Kamala Harris or the no, we don't like cash bail because it hurts minorities. Kamala Harris 1.00

00:53:16.100 and whether she's going to be the we want to prosecute marijuana users. Kamala Harris or the one who 1.00

00:53:21.360 admitted to smoking marijuana for recreation purposes on a show. Right. Like she's tried to

00:53:28.400 reinvent herself so many times. And now the cultural winds have shifted such that I think she's going to

00:53:33.140 be a little twisted on which way to land. What do you think? You know, first first, I think it's

00:53:40.360 important to look at how how was it possible? You said that was July twenty nineteen. Kamala Harris,

00:53:46.560 I think, announced her candidacy in January of twenty nineteen. How was it possible that I was

00:53:52.620 the first person, the first candidate running for president at that time and and really the first

00:53:58.220 person, even when you count the mainstream media, to actually call her out and question her very

00:54:04.000 simply, as you pointed out, question her on her record that she said she was proud of as attorney

00:54:09.340 general. This is important to point out because it's a sign of what we should expect here for the

00:54:15.900 next three and a half months in this election, that the media is going to continue to push out

00:54:21.740 fluff stories about her. They are not going to seriously and honestly examine her record. They're

00:54:28.040 going to treat her with kid gloves and even worse yet, create this new false narrative about who

00:54:34.820 Kamala Harris is and to try to reshape her record. So we should be very clear eyed about that, because

00:54:41.080 as you said, what I found there, as you're as you and your researchers probably found, it wasn't very

00:54:46.000 hard to look at her record and what she's claiming to be proud of. Second of all, there is far more to

00:54:53.220 look at than I had in the 60 seconds on that debate stage to bring up just a few defunding the police.

00:55:00.920 I have no doubt she will say with a straight face she did not support defunding the police. But the fact is

00:55:06.180 that she did. She may have called it reimagining law enforcement, but in reality, what she was advocating

00:55:12.840 for, even as vice president, was to take funding away from our law enforcement and divert it elsewhere.

00:55:21.300 And this is coming, you know, we've seen in cities that have actually implemented this policy and what a failure

00:55:25.600 it has been and how it has made our communities in this country far less safe and increased crimes, violent

00:55:33.140 crimes and so forth, literally because they have defunded the police. You look back during her

00:55:39.800 time as attorney general, she promoted charging parents with a misdemeanor for true if their kids

00:55:46.880 missed 10 more than 10 percent of days in school. Well, this had and she passed this into law and it

00:55:52.780 negatively impacted so many families who, for one reason or another, maybe they had pulled their kids

00:55:58.840 out and were homeschooling them or maybe a family member got sick and they weren't able to take

00:56:02.920 their kids to school for a whole number of reasons. She turned parents into criminals, charging them 1.00

00:56:08.720 with misdemeanors that could result in up to a year in jail, hauling single moms out of their homes 0.68

00:56:15.640 in handcuffs. This is the kind of top cop prosecutor that Kamala Harris is proud of being. We look at her 0.95

00:56:22.840 time as a member of the Judiciary Committee in the U.S. Senate where she was dismissing Article 6 of the 0.77

00:56:30.860 Constitution that says there shall be no religious test when she questioned Boucher, who was nominated

00:56:37.060 by President Trump to become a judge, accusing him of being unqualified to be a judge simply because of

00:56:43.860 his Catholic faith and he was a member of the Knights of Columbus, accusing him of being part of some

00:56:49.300 nefarious group and, in fact, implementing a religious test in defiance of the Constitution.

00:56:56.160 There are a lot of other examples that we can give, but again, this is why it's so important

00:57:00.220 that we point out her actual record. And when you have someone who doesn't believe in the rule of law,

00:57:06.840 as we've seen with the Biden-Harris administration's lawfare that's been taking place,

00:57:12.080 politicizing our public institutions, the Department of Justice and Judiciary and

00:57:17.160 law enforcement to go after their political opponents, foremost of which is Donald Trump,

00:57:22.220 but also including peaceful pro-life protesters and others who dare to challenge their agenda

00:57:28.280 and their position. She wants to be the top cop and the prosecutor president, as she has claimed. 1.00

00:57:36.180 We should be very concerned about that because she doesn't respect the Constitution. She is not 1.00

00:57:41.200 willing to uphold the oath that she took to support and defend the Constitution. And so the lawfare,

00:57:47.160 that we've seen under the Biden-Harris administration, we can only assume, would

00:57:51.360 only get worse as she seeks to exercise her muscle in that respect. There has to be a reckoning with

00:57:58.360 her record as Attorney General, as U.S. Senator, and as Vice President. And I believe that most Americans,

00:58:04.280 when presented with the truth, as you pointed out in that moment in the debate, will realize how

00:58:11.880 dangerous she would be if she is to be given these levers of power to abuse. 0.98

00:58:17.460 Mm-hmm. I mean, this is in addition to wanting Medicare for all and to eliminate our private

00:58:24.620 insurance plans, wanting to eliminate the filibuster so that she can pass the Green New Deal and take 1.00

00:58:30.320 away airplanes and cars and cows. This is actually stuff she's on the record with,

00:58:36.520 not to mention her abortion policies. But here she is, back in June of 2020, wanting to appease 0.99

00:58:45.040 a riled-up Democratic base in the wake of the George Floyd situation, being pretty clear about how

00:58:52.060 she felt about cops on the street. Look at this.

00:58:55.360 It is outdated and is actually wrong and backward to think that more police officers will create more

00:59:03.800 safety. A big part of this conversation really is about reimagining how we do public safety in

00:59:10.960 America, which I support, which is this. We have confused the idea that to achieve safety,

00:59:20.840 you put more cops on the street. For far too long, the status quo thinking has been to believe that

00:59:28.040 by putting more police on the street, you're going to have more safety. And that's just wrong. It's

00:59:32.340 just, that's not how it works. So that's the new Kamala Harris, right? Not the old one who is a DA

00:59:40.340 and a prosecutor. The new one is, we don't need more cops. Fewer cops is the way. And now here we are

00:59:46.280 four years later, we've seen what a disaster that's been in particular for communities of color, 1.00

00:59:51.620 Tulsi. Those are the ones who got hurt the worst by that insane policy that she helped push. 1.00

00:59:58.400 You know, those clips, that string of clips you just played, really once again, exposes her lack of

01:00:04.300 knowledge and understanding and intelligence to be so simplistic as to say, well, more cops doesn't

01:00:10.900 lead to safer streets. Well, it's, it's a much bigger challenge than this. My sister served in

01:00:16.520 law enforcement. I have a lot of friends who are serving in local, state, county, federal law

01:00:22.400 enforcement. It's about investing in, in our fellow Americans who make this very selfless choice to go

01:00:30.260 and put their lives and wellbeing and safety on the line every single day to make our communities safe.

01:00:35.580 It's not a matter of just near, near numbers. It's about investing in them, their training and

01:00:41.500 their capabilities to be able to face the kinds of extreme challenges that they do on a, on a daily

01:00:48.320 basis. It's about making sure that we have systems in place to be able to support them as, as they deal

01:00:55.040 with these very traumatic situations and make it so that they are in a position to be most successful,

01:01:01.500 building those relationships with our communities, investing in local police officers who are serving

01:01:07.140 their local communities and making it so that they and their families, uh, have that safety and

01:01:12.760 security of knowing that they're cared for. It's taking this holistic approach to this challenge that

01:01:17.600 we've been dealing with, with law enforcement and increasingly more dangerous streets, equipping

01:01:22.800 them with what they need in order to accomplish the reason why so many people become law enforcement in the

01:01:29.060 first place, which is to serve and to protect that is what we should be. She's got a record time and

01:01:36.020 time again of demonizing the cops, no matter the situation she's against the police. When Jussie

01:01:44.060 Smollett came up with his nonsense story and said he was attacked and that anybody saying he wasn't was 0.56

01:01:49.460 a liar. She sided with him. She came out and said this about him. Um, one of the kindest, most gentle 0.73

01:01:55.420 human beings I know I'm praying for his quick recovery. This was an attempted modern day

01:02:00.100 lynching. No one should have to fear for their life because of their sexuality or color of their

01:02:04.480 skin. We must confront this hate again, not directly involving the police, but there was a race thing

01:02:09.060 and that's underlying these attacks on cops. Then came Jacob Blake who attacked cops. He went after

01:02:16.940 cops with a knife and rather than waiting for the facts. And by the way, you could see the cops were under

01:02:22.640 threat in the videos that first came out. If you were just open-minded, um, she piled on the cops

01:02:28.540 there. And here's what she said in August of 2020, sought 29. We also see pain, hurt and destruction

01:02:37.980 in the aftermath of yet another black man shot by police. Jacob Blake shot seven times in the back

01:02:48.800 in broad daylight in front of his three young sons. It's sickening to watch. It's all too familiar

01:02:58.820 and it must end, but he is fighting for his life and he shouldn't have to be.

01:03:05.380 My heart goes out to the Blake family as they endure an ordeal that is tragically common in our

01:03:13.940 country. Tragically common with those terrible cops. And just to put a point on it, this is the

01:03:20.040 same woman who was bailing out BLM protesters, raising money to bail them out rioters. Um,

01:03:26.220 here was Jacob Blake, the person she was, she said specifically not in that clip, she was proud of

01:03:32.160 him. She's out there condemning the cops. It's all too common, you know, for these racist cops to

01:03:37.740 shoot a black man who's unarmed and not a threat. Here was Jacob Blake after the fact, giving an 0.92

01:03:43.440 interview on good morning America. I realized I had dropped my knife and a little pocket knife.

01:03:50.700 So I picked it up after I got off of him because they tased me and I fell on top of him with an

01:03:58.340 open knife in hand that Blake says fell out of his pocket. He walks around the front of the vehicle

01:04:03.360 towards the driver's side door. What are you thinking at that point? I'm not really worried.

01:04:08.600 I'm walking away from them. So it's not like they're going to shoot me. I shouldn't have picked

01:04:13.120 it up. Right. She never apologized to the cops involved in the Jacob Blake situation. She never

01:04:21.280 owned up to her lies about Jussie Smollett. She's anti-cop now because that's what serves her best 0.90

01:04:29.420 politically. We shouldn't be surprised to hear how that story changes here in the next few months

01:04:36.560 as she recognizes how much of our country truly values all that our law enforcement do every day.

01:04:43.960 I think this is going to be one issue of many where like like what happened on the 2020 campaign,

01:04:49.880 she will come up with whatever she feel she she feels she needs to say in order to try to win this

01:04:56.580 election in in November. I think even back in 2020, it got to a point where her changing message

01:05:04.360 and narrative really occurred like from Monday to Tuesday. You're not talking about a years long

01:05:10.040 shift in her belief and position on a specific issue. Her positions on many of the issues that

01:05:15.320 we've talked about today flip flops so many times within the course of a week, even the New York Times

01:05:19.660 and the Washington Post were forced to call her out for this, saying that we don't actually even know

01:05:25.560 what Kamala Harris is advocating for. This is very likely going to continue to happen here and we 0.91

01:05:31.600 need to call her out for it every time because her record speaks for itself. Meanwhile, you know,

01:05:38.340 the underlying left wing, obviously, you know, far left progressive California native is going to

01:05:47.760 take a beating on actual policies. I made reference to outside of law enforcement, some of the far left

01:05:52.660 things she's pushed. This is coming up already. And this ad, our first panel mentioned it. We have

01:05:59.760 it. It's out of Pennsylvania where the Senate candidate McCormick is running this against Bob

01:06:04.720 Casey, who is the Democrat. Democrat is the is Casey. Dave McCormick is the Republican. Casey's a

01:06:10.300 three term incumbent and it's a Senate race there. Casey's ahead by six points out there. You know,

01:06:16.140 it's easier when you're the incumbent, but he just endorsed Kamala Harris. And Pennsylvania,

01:06:21.240 of course, is ground zero in this presidential contest as well. So we're watching the Senate

01:06:25.240 or watching the presidential contest and take a look at this ad, which is already generating a lot

01:06:31.160 of attention online. Kamala Harris is inspiring and very capable. The more people get to know her,

01:06:38.300 they're going to be particularly impressed by her ability. Nonpartisan GovTrack has rated you as the

01:06:44.080 most liberal senator. I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to pass a green new deal. There's no

01:06:50.340 question I'm in favor of banning fracking. Would you ban offshore drilling? Yes. What is the

01:06:54.200 solution for voters in the fossil fuel industry? Giving the workers an ability to transition. We're

01:06:59.980 not going to treat people who are undocumented across the border as criminals. That's correct.

01:07:03.840 Raise your hand if you think it should be a civil offense rather than a crime across the border

01:07:08.920 without documentation. Abolish ICE. Yeah. Is that a position you agree with? We need to probably

01:07:14.740 think about starting from scratch. Outdated. It is wrongheaded thinking to think that the only way

01:07:20.480 you're going to get communities to be safe is to put more police officers on the street. Why do you

01:07:24.480 support changing the dietary guidelines? Yes. You know, the food pyramid. Yes. Yes. To reduce red meat

01:07:29.960 specifically. Yes. People who are convicted in prison, like the Boston Marathon bomber, on death row,

01:07:35.340 people who are convicted of sexual assault, they should be able to vote? I think we should have that

01:07:39.080 conversation. We have to have a buyback program and I support a mandatory buyback program. So for people out

01:07:44.240 there who like their insurance, they don't get to keep it. Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move

01:07:48.640 on. I'm opposed to any policy that would deny any human being public health, period. The more people

01:07:56.600 get to know her, they're going to be particularly impressed by her ability. I mean, that is just

01:08:02.760 devastating. Those are her actual positions. Those are her actual words. That's a very compelling

01:08:11.060 montage of Kamala Harris, the real Kamala Harris that people should be paying attention to.

01:08:18.260 You know, these same policies that she's talking about in that montage of ads are exactly what we've

01:08:24.680 seen, quite frankly, reflected in the Biden-Harris administration of the last three and a half years.

01:08:30.460 As hard as she tries to perhaps run away from some of these positions that she has very clearly taken

01:08:38.380 for years in the past and that have been shown through and reflected in the Biden-Harris

01:08:43.040 administration, the most important thing is for voters to not fall for it. I think that's a very

01:08:48.960 powerful ad that represents who Kamala Harris is and frankly represents the positions of the Democrat

01:08:56.440 elite, the power elite who have been pulling the strings and calling the shots throughout this

01:09:02.460 administration and what their goals and objectives are. Those who she will follow their orders and be

01:09:09.380 beholden to as she becomes the Democratic nominee and if she is allowed to become president of the

01:09:15.620 United States. It's really crazy to hear her say she wants to ban fossil fuels. She wants to ban

01:09:22.500 fracking. We know she also wants to ban nuclear power. She wants to do it all with windmills and solar 0.79

01:09:28.900 power. Meanwhile, there was just a disaster with the windmills in Nantucket where one of these windmills

01:09:36.180 came down and all of its toxicity is pumping into the ocean to the point where on the nearby beaches

01:09:43.200 they're having to wear hazmat suits now to clean up some of the shards of this thing. And that's their

01:09:49.700 answer to everything. There's absolutely no care for the environmental consequences of, you know, these new

01:09:56.460 toxic fangled things like the windmills, like the solar panels and how much digging they have to do

01:10:04.100 and not to mention the electric car batteries, right? It's all just something that makes them

01:10:07.980 feel better about green energy and the consequences to the actual earth be damned. That's just one of

01:10:13.540 the many things that I hope to hear more on in the coming days and we will actually be reporting more

01:10:17.660 on that windmill disaster. On this, Megan, I was on a I was on a long flight yesterday and was

01:10:23.140 talking with one of the flight attendants and she brought up politics and what's going on in the

01:10:28.900 breaking news. And really for her, one of the main takeaways I have from the conversation was

01:10:33.540 she said, look, I care about having clean air to breathe and clean water to drink. I just don't want

01:10:41.140 to drive an electric vehicle. I want to be able to drive the car or truck that I choose to. And I

01:10:47.860 thought it was such an important statement that she made because it really cuts to the heart of of

01:10:53.660 the the dichotomy and the huge contrast between what we're seeing coming from today's Democrat party

01:10:59.540 and the Democrat elite versus what we're seeing coming from President Trump and largely the Republican

01:11:04.880 party of today, the Democrat elite wanting to take away our right to individual liberty,

01:11:11.260 our freedom to make these choices for ourselves. If you want to drive an electric vehicle, you should

01:11:15.820 be able to do so. If you don't want to drive an electric vehicle, you want to drive a Ford F-150,

01:11:20.940 you should be able to do so. And that that really is the thing here that I think most Americans

01:11:26.500 will recognize is we don't want the government to force us to to eat what they tell us to eat or to

01:11:33.080 drive whatever they tell us to drive. When it comes down to the choices that we make for ourselves

01:11:38.480 and our families, we should have the freedom to make those choices. And that to me, it comes down

01:11:44.320 to freedom. It comes down to liberty and one of very limited government going back to what our founders

01:11:50.860 envisioned for us at a federal level, decentralization, valuing our individual liberty and freedom of

01:11:57.220 choice versus the Democrats who believe in big brother, big government. They know what is better

01:12:04.300 for us than we do for ourselves. And so they will take away our right to make those individual choices.

01:12:11.620 And that is what is most dangerous about what today's Democrat party and Kamala Harris represent

01:12:16.820 and what their goals and objectives are. That poor flight attendant is not only going to lose 1.00

01:12:22.440 her car of choice, she's going to lose her job if Kamala Harris has her way, because that Green New 1.00

01:12:27.740 Deal will be the end of the airline industry. Tulsi, thank you so much. It's always great to see you.

01:12:33.700 Thank you, Megan. Likewise. Up next, Michael Knowles is back with me and there is a lot to get to with

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01:15:11.760 Who is more desperate to coronate Vice President Kamala Harris, the Democrat elite or the sycophantic

01:15:21.260 media? So many examples to choose from. And I'm so happy to be joined by my friend, Michael Knowles,

01:15:26.440 host of The Daily Wire's Michael Knowles show. I don't even know where to begin. I, I, I'm so annoyed

01:15:34.700 by this whole discussion. My team keeps saying, MK, you've got it. You've got to go there. It's,

01:15:39.660 it's everywhere. So I am going to appease my team because I love them. They're trying to rebrand

01:15:45.700 all of her awkwardness. We touched on it yesterday as something called brat. No one really understands

01:15:51.300 what that is. Here is the most awkward discussion on CNN where Jamie Gengel tries to explain it.

01:16:01.060 Part of the fun is just watching her do that. Watch. Kamala Harris appears to be leaning into this. 0.99

01:16:06.160 The, the singer, Charlie XCX, uh, tweeted last night, Kamala is brats. Uh, and this is in reference

01:16:14.080 to her album. It's called brat. Kamala has branded her Kamala HQ Twitter page with the same

01:16:17.800 aesthetics. And for those who don't or not in the know the way I am, that is a cool thing. Uh,

01:16:25.080 it has a color chartreuse is the color and Kamala Harris has adopted that for whatever social media

01:16:34.280 page that is. But I have brought some notes because I knew you would want a definition.

01:16:40.120 Uh, okay, here we go. Charlie XCX, who I do know.

01:16:45.080 Quote brat. 0.99

01:16:46.920 You're just that girl who is a little messy and likes to party and maybe says some dumb things 1.00

01:16:55.880 some times and quote. 0.98

01:16:58.840 So it's the idea that we're all kind of brat and and vice president Harris is

01:17:02.440 brat. I don't well. 0.65

01:17:03.960 I don't know if you're right, I think you aspire to be brat.

01:17:06.520 Right, right.

01:17:07.480 You don't have to become brat.

01:17:08.360 Oh, okay.

01:17:08.920 You have to try.

01:17:09.640 You can work at it.

01:17:10.840 I will, I will aspire to be brat.

01:17:14.280 Uh, Michael Knowles, my head hurts.

01:17:17.560 I don't, I don't get it.

01:17:19.080 I don't like it.

01:17:19.720 I don't believe in it.

01:17:21.160 Megan, I can clear it up for you.

01:17:23.080 Kamala is not brat, though. 0.92

01:17:25.320 I understand why some people think that she is.

01:17:27.320 I had not heard the term used in this way until about five minutes ago.

01:17:32.280 I also had never heard of Charlie XCX until about five minutes ago.

01:17:37.000 No one, no one had except for the man that I knew I had to call to resolve this mystery.

01:17:42.680 And that is my homosexual former video editor. 0.70

01:17:45.800 I said, if anyone's going to know about this, he will.

01:17:47.880 So I called him as I was waiting to come on your show.

01:17:50.120 And I said, you need to tell me everything about Charlie XCX and brat.

01:17:53.560 And he gave me a beautiful explanation.

01:17:55.960 He's quite a fan of this singer, but he said emphatically that Kamala is not brat.

01:18:01.400 And here's why. Brat seems as though she is vapid and vacuous and just a kind of fun, 0.90

01:18:09.560 frilly party girl, but deep inside has a roiling inner life.

01:18:14.200 She is plagued by self-doubt, anxiety, and deep introspection.

01:18:20.600 The reason some people think that Kamala is brat is that she appears to be vacuous. 1.00

01:18:25.800 The reason that she is not brat is that she is in fact vacuous. 1.00

01:18:29.720 So I don't think anyone would accuse Kamala Harris of having a roiling inner life or, you know,

01:18:35.560 constantly thinking about her place in the world and what that means in any kind of cosmic order.

01:18:41.400 So she has all of the vapidity of brat, but none of the redeeming qualities.

01:18:47.240 Hmm. I, I guess this is what they have to do because her moments of awkwardness are just,

01:18:54.920 you know, they're everywhere. We've had years of exposure to them. It's like the new gaslighting

01:19:01.080 as they did with Joe Biden's infirmity. Don't believe your lying eyes. All of those awkward 0.99

01:19:06.840 moments are actually cool. Her inability to say anything stirring or moving is actually just part

01:19:14.600 of her fun personality, even though she's trying over and over with the same exact phrases to bring

01:19:22.840 us to our feet and cheers or tears, whatever it is. Um, this leads me to my favorite thing that's

01:19:29.960 been in the news over the past few days. I confess, I didn't know this woman prior to discovering this

01:19:35.400 the other day, and now I can't get enough of a stay paid forgiveness. Please stay. Cause I don't

01:19:41.560 know if that's how I pronounce your name. Is it Palti P a L T I she's amazing. She goes by at mommy,

01:19:47.880 R N 88 on X and her imitation of Kamala is spot on, but she's about had it with the repetitive 0.98

01:19:58.440 choice of words. Watch. Are many more who are able to see what can be unburdened by what has been

01:20:09.240 Kamala. I need some new material.

01:20:13.000 Okay. You've said, you've said that quote many times. Okay. Let's move on a little.

01:20:21.480 Let's galvanize new words, new phrases. Let's look into Aristotle, Socrates. I mean,

01:20:27.320 if you're going to plagiarize, you know, make it good. This is, uh, you know, this is borderline

01:20:34.440 ridiculous. It's spot on. She's so good. That's an accurate portrayal of the actual Kamala Harris, 1.00

01:20:48.200 not Brad. This is the problem is it's fun when serious people get a little goofy every so often,

01:20:55.400 but when goofy people just continue to act goofy all the time, it's, it's not fun. It's just sort

01:21:02.280 of sad. And it's especially sad when there's goofy people. Yeah. That's alarming when they're running 0.57

01:21:06.440 for president of the United States, even to the, the comedian's point that she needs some new material

01:21:13.080 here. Kamala's vapidity is, is actually one note. So she just has that phrase that we have to imagine

01:21:19.560 what can be unburdened by what has been. And then she'll just look at things. She'll say, look,

01:21:23.800 a school bus. I like school buses, school buses, huh? Spaceship go, you know, and, and there's

01:21:29.480 nothing really underneath that. So it's, uh, it, I think it helps to explain why the Kamala Harris

01:21:36.440 campaign is trying desperately to make her seem hip and cool and Mimi. And they're glomming onto this 0.97

01:21:41.640 new album that just came out brat. Uh, but, but if you want to see the real enthusiasm, look at the

01:21:46.280 Chuck Schumer press conference. When Schumer came out and endorsed Kamala Harris, he said,

01:21:50.520 we're so excited. We're so excited. And he clapped. Then he, then he, this was the second

01:21:55.400 Jeb Bush moment in two days of her campaign is that, okay, well, you don't have to clap.

01:21:59.480 You don't have to be excited, but I'll clap, please clap, you know? And then Hakeem Jeffries,

01:22:03.400 the minority leader in the house, he came out and with a straight face managed to say that Kamala has

01:22:08.840 earned this nomination. This is not a coronation from the elites. This was a grassroots movement,

01:22:15.160 which is, I don't even, why, what would the, what would the propaganda justification for that be?

01:22:22.200 I, I, I don't know. So in many ways, I think that some of the Democrat elites have settled on Kamala

01:22:27.820 because they just think that the election is over and they want to save the more powerful candidates

01:22:34.480 until 2028 when maybe they have a better shot. It's such a lie. And what the, the, what we're going

01:22:40.740 to get for the next three months is everything is racist and everything is sexist. If you criticize

01:22:46.560 Kamala Harris, they're already starting to do it. The temperature on those issues is going to reach

01:22:51.940 fever pitch levels, um, because that's their favorite tool in their toolbox on the left.

01:22:59.340 Um, already they're saying it's sexist to talk about the fact that she slept her way into San

01:23:04.460 Francisco politics with Willie Brown. That's not sexist. We'd be saying that if a man did it as well.

01:23:09.740 Um, it just, I guess that's a little brat. She's a woman in fairness. Yeah. Maybe that's brat. No, 0.88

01:23:14.740 I mean, so that's a sexist attack on her. No, it isn't that if you wouldn't do it for a man,

01:23:19.240 let's go back and look at the, all of the, uh, attacks on Trump's sexual past and behaviors.

01:23:26.280 They were all there too. Not just the alleged sexual harassment and assault that he got accused

01:23:30.680 of, but his sexual background was discussed a lot when he was very funny. In any event, there's that.

01:23:34.940 Then there's the race. And what I've noticed in my time as a political journalist is when this gets

01:23:40.980 into the ecosphere, it raises the attacks on everyone. It's not just going to be somebody

01:23:46.140 who takes direct aim at Kamala Harris. It's going to be anybody in right-wing media or just fair media. 1.00

01:23:52.480 Um, any American out there who has an opinion of Kamala Harris, that's not favorable. It's going to

01:23:57.500 get attributed to her race. And there was a small example of this just this morning on Fox and

01:24:03.040 friends where Brian Kilmeade was doing a totally appropriate segment on the fact that she's

01:24:10.540 skipping Benjamin Netanyahu's address to Congress today, where she's expected to be to go meet with

01:24:17.460 her college sorority. Okay. This is not a serious person, but it's actually part of her,

01:24:25.320 the soft boycott that's going on of Netanyahu in Congress and any of it. So he was talking about

01:24:30.420 that. And here we have the soundbite. Here's what he said. It's not 48.

01:24:35.240 She will not show up for the prime minister's joint session of Congress today. She'd rather

01:24:39.980 address in the summer, a sorority, a college sorority, like she can't get out of that.

01:24:45.640 So that's her decision. And that's her decision to back.

01:24:50.460 Now his detractors and her supporters are accusing him of calling her colored,

01:24:54.880 a colored sorority. What he said was a college sorority. That's clearly what he said. Brian

01:25:02.000 Kilmeade has been on the air for 20 plus years. If he were going to refer to black politicians as

01:25:08.080 colored, it would have happened prior to now. We had a black president for eight years. He didn't 0.99

01:25:13.060 store it up for this moment in 2024 when he could unleash it on Kamala Harris. Absolutely no benefit 0.52

01:25:18.940 of the doubt for him. And even more nasty are people like Claire McCaskill who decided to look

01:25:25.720 at Lawrence Jones, who's on the set. He's a black man with Brian and shame him. This man said nothing 0.98

01:25:34.640 after she was called colored. And to his credit, Lawrence got out there saying to her and others

01:25:43.260 like who are making the same point. I'm the black man. You're so damn dishonest. He said college,

01:25:50.320 but that's all you have. You know, the bullshit that you advocate for only brings death, poverty, 1.00

01:25:55.780 and destruction to our black communities. You're welcome on the show anytime to debate it. Me and 1.00

01:25:59.760 you, that was in response to Claire. That was in response to another person. But you know what?

01:26:02.920 Here's the thing, like Claire McCaskill, a white woman shaming a black man for not getting offended 0.95

01:26:08.820 at her mishearing intentional. I would submit of what Brian Kilmeade actually said. It's so gross

01:26:15.900 and dishonest. Um, and here's Jamel Hill too, just for kicks. Nobody on the panel flinched when he said 0.98

01:26:22.720 Fox news doesn't reach new lows because remaining in the gutter is their standard. And then there was

01:26:28.900 Eugene Daniels who reports for, um, is political who also piled on what political. Yeah. But to his

01:26:35.820 credit sort of followed up with, I spoke to Fox and plan on speaking to Brian when he's off air,

01:26:41.300 they've made clear to me, he said, college, not colored. The audio is garbled, but I'm going to

01:26:46.240 take Brian and his team at their word. Eugene, that's what you should have done at first.

01:26:49.800 What histories is Brian Kilmeade had of saying something like that, right? That's disgusting. 0.89

01:26:56.400 And they all do it for political purposes and ideological too. This is what they think of white men, 0.99

01:27:04.380 Fox news and right leaners in America in general. Of course. And it seems intentional to me because

01:27:11.980 the words call college and colored don't even have the same vowel sound. It's call and call. 0.78

01:27:20.860 Those are different sounds. And you can clearly hear, even though the audio is a little garbled

01:27:24.320 from, from Brian on Fox, he clearly says call as in college, not call as in colored, but I'll go

01:27:31.380 further. Why would it be such a huge deal? If Brian said that Brian would not say that Brian has

01:27:37.160 not said anything like that. But if I just listened to the way that the left talks about race, I am

01:27:43.060 told that we must refer to people of color. We have to refer to Kamala Harris as a woman of color. In fact,

01:27:50.600 we were told by Joe Biden that she was selected for her job because she is a woman of color. So we're

01:27:57.040 told by the left, we have to use this phrase of color. But if we say the phrase colored, which is

01:28:01.640 semantically identical, you're basically the grand Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan. The whole thing beginning 0.79

01:28:08.780 to end is so deeply disingenuous that I think we just laugh at them and ignore them. And I think that's

01:28:14.880 what most Americans are doing. It's ridiculous. He didn't say it. He hasn't said it and they need to really get 0.99

01:28:20.800 a grip. It's just offensive. Um, okay. The media while I'm on it, the pile on and JD Vance is also

01:28:27.160 underway as they coronate Kamala, the pile on and JD is underway. Um, they're very, very upset about an

01:28:33.300 interview he had with Tucker Carlson years ago when Tucker was on Fox, very upset about this reference

01:28:40.100 he made and I'll play it. I'm going to play a CNN sod anchored by this moron, Casey hunt, who's a repeat 1.00

01:28:47.340 violator of being a moron. Uh, she's just on, she's the one who was like, you will not criticize 1.00

01:28:54.020 Jake Tapper on my air. My colleagues, you cannot say anything bad about them before that. But she

01:28:59.500 was just, she's lost. She's in hysteric. So here she is in act two and she'll toss to the JD sod. So

01:29:05.940 it's embedded in what I'm about to play. You listen,

01:29:08.420 this recently resurfaced video of Republican vice presidential candidate, JD Vance. It has

01:29:18.420 re-stirred an uproar and is raising questions about how sexism will play into the campaign.

01:29:23.420 Now that Kamala Harris is leading the democratic ticket. This was Vance speaking to Fox news in 2021.

01:29:31.380 We're effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via our corporate oligarchs

01:29:36.460 by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices 1.00

01:29:40.580 that they've made. And so they want to make the rest of the country miserable too. And it's just

01:29:44.340 a basic fact. You look at Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, AOC, the entire future of the Democrats

01:29:50.440 is controlled by people without children. Childless cat ladies. Remind everyone who else is a very 0.99

01:29:59.140 powerful childless cat lady, quote unquote, because the internet really likes Taylor Swift in this 1.00

01:30:04.460 particular moment. Oh my God. And then one of the panelists called JD Vile. Let me, here's a pro

01:30:11.340 tip. If you are a news anchor, do not deliver all of your takedowns in a sing-songy fashion with weird

01:30:18.060 faces that look uncomfortable on you because it is off-putting to the very audience you mean to

01:30:23.880 persuade. So Michael Knowles, what do you make of childless cat lady? And the larger point that JD

01:30:29.660 was making that childless politicians may not have the same investment in America's future that

01:30:35.780 people who have kids do. Well, you'll notice as those liberal journalists clutch their pearls,

01:30:41.680 they never say he's wrong. They never really make an argument against him or anything like that.

01:30:47.000 So did JD use provocative language on a news show? Sure. Isn't that, that's just kind of what one does

01:30:53.040 on a news show, but his broader point is one that, that has been made, uh, you know, in, in the academy,

01:30:59.100 in, uh, politics and in the media for some years now, and not even just pertaining to America.

01:31:05.060 It is a little weird that the nations of the West, you see this especially pronounced in Europe,

01:31:09.700 are run by people who don't have kids. Obviously not everyone gets to have kids. A lot of people

01:31:15.120 suffer from infertility. It, you know, children are a blessing and this is a fallen world. So,

01:31:20.020 you know, people have to suffer with a lot of things, but it is kind of odd when the, the leaders

01:31:25.280 of our nations don't want to have kids. They're not even interested in the future. You know,

01:31:31.200 uh, the, the family is the basic building block of politics. So if the family falls into disrepair,

01:31:37.060 if the next generation is neglected or, or put off, that tells you something political. And so the

01:31:43.140 point he made is absolutely right. It's why the liberal journalists don't, don't actually refute it.

01:31:47.340 You know, it's, I guarantee you that if JD Vance actually encounters a childless cat lady 0.54

01:31:54.900 out on the campaign trail, he will have as much empathy for her and understanding of her life

01:31:59.800 as he would for anybody. It is obviously a, it's like a, I don't know what to say if it's a joke,

01:32:05.200 but it's loose language to describe a category of person who is constantly harping on us all

01:32:11.180 about our SUVs and our gas stoves and all the other decisions we make in our life while she tries to

01:32:18.160 tell us, you know, all of those are terrible choices because her choices to save the world

01:32:22.740 are the right ones. And we need to have the full fulfilling life she has, as opposed to ours that

01:32:27.400 we've chosen through children and so on. I think this is a caricature of some leftists that's based,

01:32:33.020 you know, on fact, we've seen some of these people. That's what he's trying to say. But of course,

01:32:36.800 everything's going to be filtered through the, he's a sexist, but kill me as a racist, JD's a 1.00

01:32:42.440 sexist, all the right is bad. And it's, I guarantee you, it's going to get turned up to a 10 now 0.98

01:32:48.260 because she's a black woman running for president. I just don't know if it works. I mean, to your 1.00

01:32:53.720 point, Megan, yes, of course, JD is talking about a type here, just as you might talk about the type

01:32:58.280 of the crazy conservative uncle at Thanksgiving, which actually happens to be me. I am both the figure

01:33:03.260 of that person and that literal person. And there are all sorts of types, you know, that's what a

01:33:07.460 stereotype is. And there's always some truth to a stereotype, though it doesn't necessarily apply

01:33:11.740 to every individual. So that's how they became stereotypes in the first place. So he's speaking

01:33:16.140 in this way, and obviously it resonates. That's why they're talking about it. But as you point out,

01:33:22.720 yes, they're going to use race and sex, and they're going to harp on race and sex, because Kamala 1.00

01:33:27.700 Harris doesn't personally have very many accomplishments behind her. In fact, the one thing that

01:33:33.220 she seemed to do somewhat well is prosecute people. And she actually prosecuted a lot of

01:33:37.480 people she shouldn't have, including my friend David Daleiden, whom she prosecuted for revealing

01:33:42.200 the truth about Planned Parenthood and exposing that the abortion industry sells baby parts for

01:33:47.140 money. But she was a prosecutor. She did actually bring up people up on charges. She did put people 1.00

01:33:53.040 in jail. And other than that, though, that obviously isn't going to play very well among the

01:33:57.420 Democrats. Democrats want to abolish prisons in many quarters. So she doesn't really have anything. 0.99

01:34:02.340 The administration that she's been a part of has been a complete disaster. So she can't run on the 0.77

01:34:07.220 economy. She can't run on migration. She can't run on foreign policy. She can't run on the border, 1.00

01:34:12.140 as she supposedly the borders are. So the only card that she has to play is race and sex. And 0.90

01:34:18.260 perhaps that'll work with some of the Democrat base. I don't think that really persuades the swing

01:34:23.600 voters in the swing states that she needs to win to beat Trump. 0.96

01:34:26.600 Yeah, I agree. It's a turnoff to them. And it's like the left for years now has been demonizing

01:34:32.400 white women as Karens and laughing at white tears and so on. No problem. That's fine. That's a leftist 0.99

01:34:40.620 thing. They they've never met a conservative woman who they would tolerate, like or defend. And yet

01:34:47.760 they're supposed to be our champions. They're the ones who are going to have the moral high ground when

01:34:52.240 it comes to how we speak about women. F you. You seated that moral high ground long ago, 0.98

01:35:00.020 and we all know it. Some of us have lived it. OK, I've got to get to Elon Musk. Extraordinary

01:35:06.280 interview with your colleague over the Daily Wire, Jordan Peterson, and revealing we knew that Elon had

01:35:11.560 a child who said that they were trans and that the relationship there had broken down because the child

01:35:17.940 had spoken out about it, saying Elon was no longer this this kid's father that had made the news.

01:35:24.080 I've never heard Elon talk about it. And boy, did he with Jordan. Here's a clip.

01:35:28.180 It happened to one of my my older boys, where I was I was essentially tricked into signing documents for one of my older boys, Xavier.

01:35:49.000 This is before I had really any understanding of what was going on. And we had COVID going on. And so there was a lot of confusion.

01:35:55.320 And, you know, I was told, you know, Xavier might commit suicide if that was a that was a lie right from the outset, incredibly evil.

01:36:05.820 And I agree with you that people that have been promoting this should go to prison.

01:36:09.460 You know, it wasn't explained to me that puberty blockers are actually just sterilization drugs.

01:36:14.340 And so anyway. And so I lost my son, essentially. So, you know, they they call it dead naming for a reason.

01:36:28.980 Yeah. All right. So the reason it's called dead naming is because your son is dead.

01:36:36.040 So my son, Xavier, is dead, killed by the woke mind virus.

01:36:42.400 I'm sorry to hear that.

01:36:43.720 I vowed to destroy the the woke mind virus after that.

01:36:49.040 Hmm. It's dark, Michael, but it's exactly right.

01:36:54.320 And I hate to be flip about it, but one wonders, like, is there a reason that happened to the richest man in the world or one of them so that he could help save other children?

01:37:06.040 In in Providence, you know, if you're a religious person, you believe that all of history is turned ultimately toward God's ends, even as we try to screw them up as best we can.

01:37:14.960 So, you know, that that's a bit of a consolation. But, you know, it's a small consolation to Elon.

01:37:20.280 Your heart just breaks for him listening to the story.

01:37:23.000 And he's hit on something which I think is really important to the transgender ideology.

01:37:27.180 I've mentioned it for some years now, but it's it's eluded a lot of people, which is that the the transgender transition is is a religious ritual and irreligious ritual, I guess.

01:37:38.560 And it's a kind of ritual suicide. This is why you refer to your old self as a as dead, as a dead name.

01:37:46.260 It's a kind of a ceremony of rebirth into some new Gnostic identity.

01:37:51.900 And it's terribly harmful because it's it's not in accord with reality, you know, and it brings with it all sorts of false theories about the relation of the body and the soul and who the person is and our role in creation.

01:38:04.100 And, you know, it smuggles all of that in. But the way that the radical left has smuggled it in is under the guise of following the science or, you know, following the best advice of medical professionals.

01:38:14.800 Well, you hear Elon say there they lied to me. They lied. They gave my kid these drugs that are essentially sterilization drugs and it to use the kid's own words.

01:38:24.680 They they killed my son. And so then he uses another phrase there, the woke mind virus.

01:38:30.240 And it's a popular phrase. I think it was coined by my friend Gadsad. And it's it's got a bit of a yeah.

01:38:36.920 Love the guy. It's got a great bit of currency, this phrase. But sometimes it's a little hard to define.

01:38:43.060 Well, to me, it's simple enough to define, which is the woke mind virus is just the logical conclusion of liberalism.

01:38:50.280 If you make your politics all about the individual will, the self maximizing individual autonomy, I can be whatever I want to be, even if biology says otherwise.

01:39:00.240 Even if everyone says otherwise. Well, then the final conclusion of that is I, a man, can really become a woman.

01:39:06.400 I can I can kill myself. I can kill my true identity and become some some new thing that that's the logical conclusion of political liberalism. 0.98

01:39:14.260 And so a lot of people who might have called themselves liberals, I think Elon would have called himself a liberal.

01:39:18.500 A lot of people would say I'm a classical liberal or a libertarian or a center liberal or something like that.

01:39:23.300 They're now seeing the logical conclusion of these premises of this ideology.

01:39:28.480 And so some people want to walk it back three years or five years.

01:39:32.260 You know, let's just go back to 2014 before we were sterilizing kids and sending them down this awful path, which is involved with anxiety and depression and often suicidality.

01:39:43.080 Well, you can't really just unwind it back that far.

01:39:45.480 Something has led us to this point where otherwise intelligent, sensible people are saying it's OK to sterilize a kid and pretend that a little boy is a little girl.

01:39:55.200 We've got to address the root cause of what that is.

01:39:57.780 It's that that ideology goes a lot, a lot deeper.

01:40:00.700 We've got to reconsider so much that has led us to this moment of heartbreak, not just for Elon, but for many, many families around the country.

01:40:08.260 So I really think, you know, I recently read Maureen Callahan's book, Ask Not, which I love.

01:40:14.540 Very good, very good summary read about the Kennedys and their long, sordid history with women in particular. 1.00

01:40:20.520 And it talks about how they had one of their children lobotomized.

01:40:23.960 She was slow and they didn't like it and they had her lobotomized. 1.00

01:40:27.640 And I think that era of medicine is akin to what we're seeing right now with children, where we are chopping up healthy body parts like they did when they lobotomized people, otherwise healthy people, in the name of what now today, politics, political correctness.

01:40:45.600 And Kamala Harris is in favor of it.

01:40:48.240 Kamala Harris wants it to continue.

01:40:51.520 Your kid, my kids, all of our kids, that if they decide, you know, in the midst of a depression, that they want to chop off a body part, that should be their decision and we shouldn't interfere.

01:41:03.860 This, I don't, that's it.

01:41:05.860 That's, that's, I'm still the last word on it, but that's among this woman's many problems. 1.00

01:41:10.080 Michael Knowles, got to go.

01:41:11.020 Thank you.

01:41:12.000 Great to be with you.

01:41:12.860 Thank you, Megan.

01:41:13.760 We're back tomorrow with James Woods, the actor.

01:41:16.680 Can't wait to talk to him.

01:41:18.240 Thanks for listening to The Megan Kelly Show.

01:41:21.960 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - July 24, 2024

Left Smears Kamala Critics as Racist and Sexist, and False Narratives Emerge, with Tulsi Gabbard, Michael Knowles, and RealClearPolitics Hosts ｜ Ep. 846

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