The Megyn Kelly Show - Leftists Melt Down Over Stephen Miller, Katy Perry's Hypocrisy, and Toprah Interviews Mom, with Emily Jashinsky ｜ Ep. 1240

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00:00:30.000 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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00:00:44.780 President Trump is talking to top Democrats in Minnesota about de-escalating tensions.

00:00:50.140 While leftists, from celebrities to podcasters, are making increasingly insane statements.

00:00:55.020 I mean, truly, like, I don't know if there is tamping down the lunacy over there.

00:01:01.860 Plus, Ilhan Omar confronted while giving public remarks in a very strange incident.

00:01:06.120 Some guy with a syringe, like, pushing out some sort of weird liquid onto her.

00:01:12.600 The people who are present say it smelled like vinegar.

00:01:16.240 Thankfully, she was fine, but it's a very odd situation.

00:01:19.560 I have to say she handled it very well.

00:01:22.440 It would be very disconcerting to have some large man come over to you with a syringe and shoot anything on you.

00:01:29.640 And she was pretty defiant, so I got to give her points.

00:01:32.480 Here to react to all of this and more, Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party with Emily Jashinsky on the MK Media Podcast Network.

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00:03:00.000 EJ, welcome back.

00:03:00.980 Great to see you.

00:03:01.800 Thanks for having me, Megan.

00:03:02.600 Okay, so we'll get to Ilhan Omar in a minute, but I'm not sure how well it's going out in Minnesota.

00:03:09.740 You know, we covered this on AM Update this morning where he sent Tom Homan out there, and Tom Homan says, okay, the preliminary meetings went well.

00:03:18.280 He met with Governor Walz who said, okay, you'll get the full cooperation of Minnesota.

00:03:24.620 I mean, he wrote this piece in the Wall Street Journal saying, we already cooperate with ICE at the state level, which is a way of skirting the real issue because they don't cooperate with ICE at the county or city level.

00:03:37.040 And the whole issue here is Minneapolis, which is a sanctuary city and doesn't cooperate with ICE at all.

00:03:43.700 So ICE is now making these demands, the White House is making these demands, cooperate with us, give us the guys who are getting released from jail who are illegals, give us the guys who get arrested and are like in the holding cells who are illegal, work with us to arrest illegals on whom we have an ICE detainer, and let us know if you guys get anybody in custody with an ICE detainer.

00:04:07.220 All of that is barred by Minneapolis' sanctuary city policies.

00:04:11.760 Like, it's a no because they're a sanctuary city and Mayor Frye is not going to reverse that.

00:04:18.660 I don't even know if he can reverse that because it's policy there.

00:04:23.320 And so now today, President Trump comes out and says, well, could somebody please explain to Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frye, who said he's not going to help us in enforcing federal immigration law, that that's against the law?

00:04:37.400 Well, I mean, we're back at square one.

00:04:39.620 We know that.

00:04:40.600 It's called a sanctuary city. 1.00

00:04:42.660 They're very fucking annoying. 1.00

00:04:44.080 They're the reason we're having all these problems. 0.99

00:04:45.740 What it tells me, as we reported in this morning AM update, is the mayor hasn't budged one inch.

00:04:53.500 They want Gnome gone.

00:04:55.320 They wanted Bovino gone.

00:04:57.140 Eventually, they're going to say they want Homan gone.

00:04:59.700 They're saying, fine, you can send Homan here, but they haven't done a thing. 0.99

00:05:03.700 So Walsh is in the Wall Street Journal saying, oh, well, we cooperate at the state level.

00:05:07.080 Well, that's not what they've been asking for.

00:05:09.140 This is like a fig leaf.

00:05:11.020 It feels like no progress has been made, and it kind of feels like no progress will be made.

00:05:16.000 Meantime, they're storming the Minneapolis Capitol building, demanding every single ICE agent be removed, all 2,000 to 3,000 of them.

00:05:26.200 And now the MAGA base is looking at Trump saying, did you bend?

00:05:30.600 Are you bending?

00:05:31.700 Like, don't bend.

00:05:32.860 And Trump, of course, is saying, no, I will never bend. 0.98

00:05:35.160 But how are we working with these fools who aren't budging one inch on the very thing that made us send ICE there to begin with? 0.67

00:05:42.240 So this is partially what's been so frustrating, is that if Jacob Fry and Tim Walls wanted to do their part in a de-escalation effort, and Democrats in the state of Minnesota writ large, they could be saying, all right, let's rethink these policies. 0.94

00:05:57.940 Because we've seen the examples coming out of Minnesota.

00:06:00.980 There are people who leave the county jails, the city jails, and they have records.

00:06:05.740 They've been convicted of things in the past.

00:06:07.700 They are non-citizens. 0.81

00:06:08.780 So every crime they commit in Minnesota, the people of Minnesota are dealing with preventable crimes.

00:06:15.240 100% of non-citizen crime is preventable.

00:06:18.340 And so if they wanted to do their part, they could be out there leading with policies that would change it.

00:06:24.320 But actually, what Jacob Fry posted, I was just looking it up on X the other day, was that we should, this was in his thread after he talked to Donald Trump.

00:06:32.760 This is, I think, a truly remarkable quote from him.

00:06:34.820 He says, violent criminals should be held accountable based on the crimes they commit, not based on where they are from, which is just a slap in the face to citizens.

00:06:45.200 Even liberal citizens, progressive citizens, that's a slap in your face.

00:06:49.520 Where is this going to go?

00:06:51.360 Because truly, Minneapolis, what President Trump is basically asking Minneapolis is to reverse its sanctuary city status.

00:06:59.760 They're not going to do that.

00:07:01.960 They're just not.

00:07:02.600 I mean, the sanctuary city of Minneapolis, the policy is we don't have to help the feds do a thing on immigration enforcement.

00:07:11.980 And that's basically, he's correct.

00:07:16.540 Like, they can't interfere as a city with federal immigration enforcement.

00:07:21.320 It is not okay for the government of Minneapolis to try to thwart ICE enforcement.

00:07:26.340 But they don't actually have to help, right?

00:07:29.600 And then now President Trump can use carrots and sticks to try to make them help.

00:07:34.820 But it's not, as far as I understand, technically illegal for them not to help.

00:07:40.520 It's a federal enforcement obligation.

00:07:42.620 This is why states like Texas got in trouble in the Joe Biden years when they tried to pass laws that were more stringent than the feds had.

00:07:51.180 And the U.S. Supreme Court said you can't do that, unfortunately, because this is a federal responsibility.

00:07:56.260 Now Trump's doing his duty, trying to enforce that federal responsibility.

00:08:00.240 But Minneapolis cannot be made to help.

00:08:03.780 And we're asking for such minor help.

00:08:06.220 We're basically saying, if there's someone in prison for committing a crime who's also an illegal, and they serve their time, and you're about to release them out on the streets, please call us.

00:08:16.320 We have a federal ICE detainer on them.

00:08:18.020 Call us so we can just eject them back to El Salvador. 1.00

00:08:20.660 And also, if you pull over somebody for DWI, and they're in jail as opposed to prison, like they're just in the holding cell prior to a trial and all that, and they've got a federal ICE detainer on them because they're an illegal, please call us because we like to deport them.

00:08:35.560 And then there's this third piece, which is, if we have an ICE detainer on someone who has not yet been apprehended in Minneapolis, who either has an additional crime he's wanted for or not, please help us find him.

00:08:50.680 And they are not going to help with any of that, Emily.

00:08:53.020 They haven't been helping with any of that because of their sanctuary city status, and they're not going to.

00:08:58.340 Do you see Mayor Fry giving up any of those?

00:09:02.040 No, absolutely not.

00:09:03.160 Absolutely not.

00:09:03.980 And this is another point where he says violent criminals should be held accountable based on the crimes they commit, not based on where they're from.

00:09:10.440 He's also saying that about plain criminals, because that's what's happening. 0.93

00:09:14.540 You have people coming out of the county and city jails, and they've put their foot down over and over again over the course of years now in sanctuary jurisdictions around the country.

00:09:21.960 They're absolutely not budging.

00:09:23.280 In my sense is that what we've seen from the administration over the last 48, 72 hours is a kind of reckoning with the reality that the sanctuary cities have not been pressured in the court of public opinion, because I think a lot of people forget how or don't even know how wealthy and deep blue the Minneapolis area is.

00:09:44.660 If you're not from the Midwest, I think people don't fully realize that is like a magnet for hardened progressives from around the area, and they make really good money.

00:09:54.220 There are 10 of corporate headquarters in the Minneapolis area.

00:09:57.300 So this is like the Democratic Party's new Trump era base.

00:10:01.440 That is where they are.

00:10:02.580 They're in places like Minneapolis and its suburbs.

00:10:05.200 And so there's not going to be political momentum.

00:10:07.900 The Daily Mail was out with a poll today that found actually the plurality of people blame the administration for the chaos in Minneapolis rather than blaming the anti-ice protesters or Jacob Fry and Tim Walls.

00:10:22.780 So when you see something like that happening, I think Donald Trump has pretty good political instincts and is realizing that there just needs to be a new approach because basically the court of public opinion is going against them.

00:10:36.220 Whether or not we think that's fair, it's what's happening and Fry isn't going to budge.

00:10:41.040 Yeah, like I would love to say Tom Homan will solve this, but I'm not sure he's going to because if this is the new, even if the new White House approach is, okay, we'll just focus on the ones who are also criminals for another reason.

00:10:58.240 You know, they didn't just violate immigration law.

00:11:00.300 They committed another crime.

00:11:02.160 Fry is not going to help him with those either.

00:11:04.800 And like, so maybe there's some rural counties that aren't sanctuary in Minnesota.

00:11:10.200 I don't know, but that's, that's not going to get her done. 0.51

00:11:13.600 So I'm not really sure where this is going.

00:11:15.900 I understand why the MAGA hardliners are like, you're going to have to surge.

00:11:20.000 You're, you actually are going to have to consider insurrection act.

00:11:23.860 There's no way of fulfilling this mission that doesn't involve doubling or tripling down because the foot little lighter on the gas pedal approach.

00:11:33.960 Which is not going to do a thing in Minneapolis, not one thing that they're, they won't help you.

00:11:40.760 This mayor will not help and neither will the mayor of St.

00:11:43.580 Paul or the other major cities in Minnesota.

00:11:46.700 So governor Wallace can say all he wants that Minnesota isn't technically a sanctuary state.

00:11:50.880 That's true, but it has tons of sanctuary policies.

00:11:54.400 The issue is these big cities.

00:11:56.140 And in the meantime, Emily, there's a report today that now Democrats are considering a bill that would require a judicial criminal warrant for any ICE arrest.

00:12:08.420 So in other words, they want, um, they want to require a federal judge to have to sign a warrant for the arrest of any illegal, um, or they're not going to, or they can't be arrested, which would basically mean amnesty for every single illegal in America who hasn't committed an additional crime.

00:12:31.980 That's insane. I mean, thank God it will never pass. I mean, the Republicans control the house, the Senate and the white house right now, but it's a poison pill.

00:12:41.240 And they're trying to tack it on here in, uh, like the latest spending bill.

00:12:46.400 They're basically want to do anything they can to sort of queer the latest round of spending and to say, we're not going to fund ICE because even though we said we would fund this spending bill, we don't want them getting more money.

00:12:58.800 Oh, and by the way, okay, we'll do it just as long as you agree, no more arrests of any illegals unless they've committed additional felonies.

00:13:05.580 I mean, like, they're going so radically left on it that they're risking turning those poll numbers, which have now turned in their favor, back around the other way.

00:13:15.920 That is exactly the pattern that happened during the first Trump administration.

00:13:19.160 We started to see abolish ICE, catch wind on the Democratic side, and when that happened, Biden wildly overplayed the party's hand.

00:13:27.120 But that's because what they ultimately want, their limiting principle, is amnesty or pathway to citizenship or open borders.

00:13:34.220 Now, some of the far-left anti-ICE activists are just open borders people.

00:13:37.920 If you go to the Minnesota Ice Watch Instagram page, they're against colonialism.

00:13:41.740 Okay, well, that's basically you saying that you're as far-left as can be and likely just don't believe in the concept of nation-state borders,

00:13:50.060 which is a different argument than what most of the country wants to see implemented with this surge that we're still dealing with from the Biden era,

00:13:57.980 where you had an average, according to the New York Times, of like 2.4 million people.

00:14:01.400 I think that's a low estimate coming in every single year, and these are magnet policies for that.

00:14:06.920 When Joe Biden started giving people these long asylum waiting periods where their hearings would be three, five years in the future,

00:14:14.980 and I was looking at some of the paperwork myself done in Texas at the time, that was a magnet.

00:14:19.300 It drew people there.

00:14:20.180 The sanctuary cities and jurisdictions are one of the magnets that is preventing people from self-deporting,

00:14:25.640 even though the Trump administration has, this has been their best immigration policy,

00:14:29.780 a robust self-deportation program that is more than fair.

00:14:33.500 Well, why aren't people doing that?

00:14:34.780 In some cases, because they believe they're going to be protected from deportation in sanctuary cities,

00:14:39.400 where every time ICE tries to make an arrest, there are whistles blowing, the works are being totally gummed up.

00:14:46.640 The reason, by the way, that immigration policy is federal is because the people of Minnesota are just as vulnerable as Lake and Riley was.

00:14:54.800 That guy came from New York.

00:14:56.320 The man who killed Lake and Riley came from New York and went to Georgia.

00:15:00.940 That's why immigration policy is federal, because we have a national border.

00:15:04.220 Yes, we have state borders, but people come into the country.

00:15:07.280 They come into the United States, and our federal immigration law is what counts in that case,

00:15:12.500 because the people of Minnesota or the people of Minnesota, the people of their neighboring states,

00:15:16.500 where any of these people could go, where these migrants could go to, deserve to be protected.

00:15:21.080 And Trump was democratically elected.

00:15:23.600 People hate it.

00:15:24.240 He was democratically elected.

00:15:25.460 Either way, it doesn't matter if you hate it.

00:15:26.980 He's there.

00:15:27.620 And he still has a mandate to deal with immigration.

00:15:30.240 So I don't know, Megan.

00:15:30.940 I think Kristi Noem is genuinely vulnerable right now,

00:15:34.620 because some of what the reckoning with this public opinion, the court of public opinion might be,

00:15:40.720 is that the aggressive public relations media approach was distracting from substance on the ground.

00:15:46.720 That's my sense of where people within the internal tug of war are going in the administration.

00:15:53.180 To me, Kristi Noem committed the same sin that Pam Bondi did, which is she got on TV and overstated what was real, 0.72

00:16:04.020 what we actually knew, what was actually happening behind the scenes.

00:16:07.100 Pam Bondi, the Epstein client list is on my desk.

00:16:10.540 No, it wasn't, you know, I've got tens of thousands of videos of him with child pornography,

00:16:17.280 making it sound like it was Epstein, you know, with child pornography,

00:16:21.500 as opposed to like commercial child pornography that he was looking at on his computer.

00:16:25.240 None of it's good.

00:16:25.940 I'm just saying her language around it was very loose and she misstated a bunch of things.

00:16:31.780 And we still don't totally understand what happened there.

00:16:34.100 And then came out and underdelivered.

00:16:35.380 And Kristi Noem, her sin was even more serious, though, you know, let's face it, Epstein was like at a fever pitch. 0.98

00:16:41.940 So it was extremely volatile for Pam Bondi to comment on it in the way she did.

00:16:46.600 But Kristi Noem's talking about life or death situations where we're talking about our federal government killing American citizens.

00:16:52.760 So you, if anything, you want to be really careful in what you say.

00:16:58.420 And I believe Kristi Noem's motivation was, okay, I was told this by some Border Patrol guy and I want to run cover for my guys, you know, before the narrative spins out against them.

00:17:11.540 But unfortunately, you can't do that by running with made up facts before you know what's real.

00:17:18.680 And the stuff about, you know, Petty or Petty brandishing a weapon and wanting to kill law enforcement and being a domestic terrorist.

00:17:29.660 Now, that one, that last one actually is still up for debate.

00:17:32.140 We're learning more about Petty.

00:17:33.580 But those other statements were not supported at all.

00:17:37.080 And so she made herself look like a liar, which means she made DHS look like liars, which means she made the Customs and Border Patrol guys look even worse than they did, you know, just from the shooting alone. 0.88

00:17:49.180 I mean, it really is, it is a scandal.

00:17:51.780 There's no question.

00:17:52.360 Well, and there was a leak to Axios where four separate sources said Stephen Miller is the one who came up with that line of attack that Kristi Noem aggressively went into the media.

00:18:04.500 Greg Bovino repeated.

00:18:05.580 And what that tells me is Noem World is a little bit nervous about her station in the administration if you're out there leaking with sources. 0.99

00:18:16.780 I mean, this is just my guess as to how that made its way into Axios.

00:18:19.460 But if you're, it looks like someone who's looking for a scapegoat and is trying to say, well, this wasn't Kristi's idea.

00:18:24.400 Now, by the time she spoke, Megan, regular people around the country had seen this on their social media 10 times over.

00:18:30.260 There were already like five different angles, 10 videos.

00:18:32.300 And just the idea that you would say somebody having two magazines amounts to wanting to commit a massacre or something like that.

00:18:39.980 I mean, common sense.

00:18:41.060 It doesn't matter if Stephen Miller is telling you to say that.

00:18:42.060 For which there was no evidence.

00:18:43.360 Right, right.

00:18:44.120 And it doesn't matter if Stephen Miller is telling you to say that.

00:18:46.100 There's zero evidence that he wanted to commit a massacre.

00:18:48.520 None whatsoever.

00:18:49.000 Which is, again, like her Karnak powers to glean what was in Alex Preddy's mind were also overstated.

00:18:56.340 I do want to state for the record, it wasn't Stephen Miller who leaked back to Axios.

00:19:02.640 I mean, it may have been.

00:19:03.600 I'm just saying he wasn't on the record as the leaker.

00:19:06.100 But he responded or somebody on his behalf responded to that report.

00:19:09.340 And Axios saying nothing, no talking points from the White House on what happened to Alex Preddy originated with the White House.

00:19:17.680 They all originated with Border Patrol, which would make sense.

00:19:21.900 I mean, honestly, let's just think it through.

00:19:23.140 There's no way Stephen Miller is just like sitting in his office like, I'm just going to say this guy was on the hunt for law enforcement and that he brandished a guy. 0.94

00:19:30.940 Like, he's not an idiot. 0.94

00:19:32.180 He would not have done that if he hadn't been told facts that might support that. 0.98

00:19:38.320 But whoever did it got way ahead of their skis.

00:19:41.660 I mean, and wound up making the administration look bad.

00:19:44.060 No, that's super interesting because that implicates Bovino, who has clearly been seen as a scapegoat, right?

00:19:49.260 Like, he's back in California, out of Minneapolis, and he was commander at large of Customs and Border Protection.

00:19:54.300 So that they would point the finger at Bovino actually makes a lot of sense.

00:19:57.620 And maybe it was Bovino, for all we know, but maybe that's partially why he was basically yanked.

00:20:02.840 That would make sense.

00:20:04.000 That's exactly.

00:20:05.660 I mean, think of it.

00:20:07.020 None of those guys involved in the actual Alex Preddy shooting is talking to Stephen Miller.

00:20:11.920 The odds of that are extremely slim.

00:20:14.220 But somebody like Bovino would be.

00:20:16.100 It would be somebody higher up in the command chain.

00:20:19.620 And I mean, I can see a situation where Stephen Miller was involved in messaging.

00:20:22.960 He's usually very good at it.

00:20:24.020 So I don't know what happened here, but clearly Trump thinks Noam and Bovino are to blame, at least in part, at least, that they needed to go in order to give the public some sort of scalp because the overstatements were so egregious.

00:20:38.040 That's why they're gone.

00:20:39.880 I don't know that they would be gone if they had just stuck to the facts and said it's a very unfortunate incident.

00:20:44.920 We there's no question that this guy was impeding law enforcement efforts, which is why he came into the crosshairs of law enforcement.

00:20:51.860 As for what happened and why the triggers were pulled, we have to let the investigation play out.

00:20:56.880 I mean, that was the thing to say.

00:20:58.820 Trump, ironically, who's not, you know, exactly known for being really good about controlling, you know, all of his messaging, although he can surprise you.

00:21:07.040 So he he was very judicious in what he said.

00:21:10.860 Holman was, too.

00:21:12.580 It was Noam and Bovino who got way ahead of their skis and are now going to pay for it.

00:21:18.220 But here's the other problem, Emily.

00:21:20.800 This is just on the heels of Renee Good getting shot and killed.

00:21:24.360 And Christy Noam made some statements after she was killed that people thought were outrageous when they saw like just the first videotape.

00:21:35.960 I mean, even when I saw Christy Noam's first statement and I had only seen the first angle of the Renee Good shooting, I was like, these don't match up.

00:21:42.720 I don't know what she's saying.

00:21:43.720 And it wasn't until I saw the video of her car hitting the officer from the front where you saw you saw she hit him and you saw him sort of like get moved off to the side of her front driver's side headlight that I was like, OK, now I actually see what Christy Noam is saying.

00:22:03.060 But so the left went with the original statement, thinking it was an overstatement and that it didn't match the original tape and ran with like, she's not credible.

00:22:11.420 This is crazy. You don't lie about a government killing of an American citizen.

00:22:16.040 And you really don't do it when there's a videotape that shows you it's not true.

00:22:19.880 Now, they refused to accept that there were other angles that actually did support Christy Noam.

00:22:24.720 And there were all sorts of reasons why they did that.

00:22:26.880 And OK, fine. But then to have her do it in a far worse fashion two weeks later, you know, in a way that's clearly not true.

00:22:38.800 Yeah, she I mean, she shot herself in the foot. 0.97

00:22:40.680 Well, and it's it's a I think Trump has very sharp political instincts in cases like this.

00:22:46.060 It's where Christy Noam can end up losing the public trust on one of Donald Trump's.

00:22:50.340 I mean, she was she's in that job because Trump saw her as an excellent messenger for his mass deportation campaign.

00:22:57.740 And you need you badly need the trust of the public in order to carry out a mass deportation campaign.

00:23:03.720 It's obviously true that the Biden era surge was the largest since Ellis Island, one of if not the largest in American history.

00:23:11.000 I mean, a staggering amount in multiple states, populations cobbled together, imported into the United States in about three years.

00:23:17.060 Yes, you're going to need a significant reversal campaign.

00:23:21.060 And so you also, though, because that's so many people, you know, you have tens of thousands of people at minimum who are in the country who do not want to leave the country.

00:23:29.060 And so whatever you do, you are going to need the public's trust in order to carry out an operation like that, which is why Christy Noam did not have a lot of room for error.

00:23:38.260 And now within a month's time period, she's made two pretty significant, especially this latter one, mistakes that have some folks looking back on the last 12 months of the broader campaign for mass deportation saying, was this all for show?

00:23:54.280 Was a lot of this like smoke and mirrors, public relations?

00:23:57.660 What's going on?

00:23:58.840 And so now she's going to have to face a lot of questions, even from the right, about why there haven't been even more deportations.

00:24:05.780 People were already upset about that.

00:24:08.260 Mm hmm.

00:24:09.020 And on top of all of this, while I'll defend the Border Patrol shooting of Alex Preddy all day long, because I genuinely believe that it was a case of mistaken.

00:24:19.180 It's called imperfect self-defense or defense of others, where you genuinely believe that somebody else's life is in danger, like your fellow officers, or that your life is in danger.

00:24:27.220 And that's why you fire.

00:24:28.500 But you're wrong.

00:24:29.700 Right.

00:24:29.920 That's what imperfect self-defense is.

00:24:31.480 I genuinely believe this is a case of that.

00:24:33.220 I don't think those border patrol agents wanted to kill Alex Preddy, just thought it'd be fun to fire, you know, 10 shots at him.

00:24:41.440 I think they were scared.

00:24:43.400 They got into a confrontation with him.

00:24:45.280 He was resisting.

00:24:46.200 Someone yelled gun, gun, gun, gun, and the others panicked.

00:24:51.300 I think that's what happened.

00:24:52.220 They thought he was actually firing and gun, gun, gun meant like he was he was brandishing, which he wasn't.

00:24:58.980 I think this shooting will be upheld as a lawful shooting, but it's a it's it's not a it's not a good one.

00:25:05.060 In other words, it's not a it's not a clean one where there he actually was threatening to shoot the officers.

00:25:10.200 And so you add that in to the fact that the the facts against Preddy were overstated by Noam.

00:25:17.080 And now it's really like tempers are really flaring.

00:25:19.860 I mean, people are very angry, but those same people have no reasonable gauge to say, how would I have reacted? 0.51

00:25:29.380 How if I'm a border protection agent out there where my fellow agents in ICE are getting fingers bitten off by these lunatics?

00:25:39.320 We're under attack all day.

00:25:41.440 We're getting injured where we're bleeding out of our nose and our eyes and our mouths.

00:25:45.960 Nobody comes to help us.

00:25:47.300 They're firing at us, you know, like and and this guy shows up.

00:25:52.560 He's resisted ICE.

00:25:53.820 We later found out that he had a confrontation with ICE five Border Patrol agents or ICE agents a week before.

00:25:59.980 So he's clearly an agitator.

00:26:01.740 He's in their face.

00:26:02.700 They don't know what he's capable of.

00:26:03.860 And then they see and hear gun, gun, gun.

00:26:07.680 You know, you're it's a very it's a powder keg.

00:26:11.600 So, like, if these same people who are mad about the Kristi Noem messaging and the fact that Alex Preddy is dead could understand, could be reasonable on understanding that piece of it.

00:26:22.640 Maybe we could talk.

00:26:24.100 But that's not where they are at all.

00:26:25.720 Right. And is Operation Metro Surge, the continuing operation in Minneapolis, having an effect on morale at CBP and ICE that's actually going to hamper the entire process going forward?

00:26:38.680 Ken Klippenstein, who's on the left, was getting all of these leaks from people inside CBP and ICE who are just completely demoralized, have said it's been a bad experience.

00:26:49.200 It's none of them. He said maybe only one of them is somebody who leans left.

00:26:52.960 But these are people who signed up to do deportations and enforce immigration law in the country.

00:26:57.660 And that's, again, where Kristi Noem, who is the leader, even if she was in that job for being a effective messenger, as Trump once saw her, you have to lead this massive bureaucratic organization that does include morale.

00:27:11.060 And is was this mishandled in a way that has caused so much what's the right word, just, you know, disillusionment among your rank and rank and file officers because they're being constantly harassed and Minnesota is not giving up.

00:27:27.900 They want their sanctuary jurisdiction.

00:27:29.340 They want people in their community.

00:27:32.380 And as you pointed out after this happened, Megan, is the better answer to just let them have their sanctuary jurisdiction and, you know, focus on other areas of the country.

00:27:41.140 Maybe you can keep focusing on getting the violent people who are let out of their jails, you know, keep booking them, keep bringing them in.

00:27:49.040 But do you need to have this operation in the street or should you go elsewhere?

00:27:54.420 I think that's a pretty obvious question.

00:27:56.080 See, I, but, but I think the only way you can do that, the only way you could, you could say, all right, you know, let them have it is if you, you amp up how bad it is.

00:28:05.380 Like, I don't think we can have like the no-go zones like they have in the UK here where we just, we can't go in there and arrest people.

00:28:12.820 Because as you point out earlier, you know, it's the United States of America.

00:28:16.020 You can travel from state to state.

00:28:17.600 And if this could just stay Minneapolis's problem, I'd be all for that.

00:28:21.480 But that's not how the United States works.

00:28:23.540 You can go from state to state without a passport, without a driver's license.

00:28:26.700 You can go wherever the hell you want here.

00:28:28.060 Thank God.

00:28:29.720 So I think you'd have to build in additional punishments for Minnesota if you were going to do that.

00:28:35.680 Like, like I was saying the other day, and this is just off the top of my head, but like, you'd have to say to all asylum seekers in the United States, we will not consider your application unless you're in Minneapolis.

00:28:44.080 We are not accepting any asylum applications unless you can prove you've been living in Minneapolis. 0.91

00:28:51.080 So you create an incentive for them to flood the field there.

00:28:54.600 Don't leave out St. Paul.

00:28:55.680 They could also live in St. Paul.

00:28:57.640 Yeah, St. Paul too.

00:28:58.640 Exactly.

00:28:59.080 Like, there would be ways, potentially, of incentivizing illegals to move to Minneapolis. 0.60

00:29:05.340 Um, you know, if you were clever about it, you could sit and find a few more.

00:29:09.940 I was thinking about it the other day, and I'm sorry.

00:29:11.800 I love my listening audience in Minneapolis and Minnesota, but you're going to have to move.

00:29:16.460 Same as I had to move from New York City because they went too far left. 1.00

00:29:19.360 You're going to have to leave because you're being ruled by a bunch of morons. 1.00

00:29:22.920 I mean, by absolute cretins like Jacob Fry. 1.00

00:29:25.880 So I'm sorry. 0.97

00:29:26.560 This is the price you may have to pay.

00:29:27.700 So you couldn't just do it like, okay, it's a no-go zone.

00:29:30.520 We're going to allow it.

00:29:31.200 You'd have to create built-in pain in order for this to work.

00:29:36.140 But I do think that's a potential next move for the president.

00:29:38.560 And there's carrots and sticks.

00:29:39.780 And I also don't know.

00:29:40.760 I mean, as generous as I think our self-deportation offer is, and it is very generous and it's

00:29:46.640 maddening for people who are still, you know, risking their kids' future and using taxpayer

00:29:51.220 funds to feed the children that came into the United States and had because they're on

00:29:56.080 WIC and SNAP, all while risking at some point, you know, their asylum hearing going the right

00:30:01.240 way, even though they're economic migrants, whatever it is.

00:30:04.260 As maddening as it is that people are choosing not to comply, is there a carrot option that

00:30:10.700 includes doubling the self-deportation help, the $1,000 bonus?

00:30:15.880 You should.

00:30:16.160 Yeah, because it might actually be cheaper.

00:30:17.760 I'm totally in favor of increasing the money we give them to get out.

00:30:20.940 Yeah, it might be cheaper.

00:30:21.520 I know it burns, but it doesn't it doesn't burn more than seeing them stay here and commit

00:30:26.440 crime against us.

00:30:27.380 Get them out.

00:30:28.620 Get out.

00:30:29.500 Look at all the money we gave to Ukraine.

00:30:31.160 Let's give that to the illegals for a one way ticket to El Salvador. 0.94

00:30:34.700 Plus, there is some culpability on the part of not the Trump administration, but the Biden

00:30:39.600 administration for making false promises to millions of people who paid cartels to traffic

00:30:45.060 them up through Central America and into Mexico, wait desperately in cartel towns on the

00:30:50.080 border just for a shot to get their CBP-1 appointment or their asylum ticket, leave detention because

00:30:56.600 that's what the Biden administration allowed them to do, and then make their homes in the

00:30:59.700 United States of America.

00:31:00.800 So I honestly, even if it's not cheaper for a lot of these people, I know that folks on

00:31:06.220 the right who are supportive of mass deportation, like myself, look at that and say, you've got

00:31:11.300 to be kidding me.

00:31:11.860 This is my money. 0.93

00:31:12.600 At the same time, the Biden administration was just completely shameful and an embarrassment

00:31:18.480 to the United States when you have these Cubans and Venezuelans who are legitimately 0.96

00:31:22.060 fleeing authoritarianism.

00:31:24.200 Some of them economic migrants, absolutely.

00:31:26.740 But others were told that they would have opportunity in the United States.

00:31:30.760 So I don't think it's the end of the world to double those bonuses.

00:31:34.220 No, I'm thinking of like, you know, my mother-in-law had an enormous cell phone tower built right

00:31:43.260 in front of her property, and she did not want that at all.

00:31:46.820 Who would?

00:31:48.160 And, you know, she objected, but what could she do?

00:31:51.520 The town did it and she was stuck with it.

00:31:53.920 Well, if that happened to you, and this is not what happened, but if that happened to

00:31:57.860 you and you then grew a big tumor on your face, would you say, I'm so pissed, now I have

00:32:05.320 this tumor and I blame the city. 0.96

00:32:08.060 I'm just going to sit here and blame the city.

00:32:10.240 Or would you spend the 10 grand to have the tumor removed from your face and, you know,

00:32:16.580 just say, I'm not going to live the rest of my life like this.

00:32:19.400 I've got to sort of cut my losses here.

00:32:21.320 I think most of us would pay if we could to get rid of the tumor.

00:32:24.460 The tumor has arrived.

00:32:26.340 It's here.

00:32:27.140 It's in the form of some 10 to 20 million illegals. 0.99

00:32:30.000 They're killing American citizens. 0.99

00:32:31.860 They're hurting. 1.00

00:32:32.680 They're molesting children. 0.96

00:32:33.720 So they need to go. 0.98

00:32:34.840 And if we have to pay some money in order to get rid of them, so be it.

00:32:38.180 Again, we just, what was the latest tranche to Ukraine?

00:32:41.520 $60 billion? 0.97

00:32:42.780 We can spend a few on getting rid of these illegals. 1.00

00:32:46.700 I did want to make one point about the asylum claims because that was one of the most infuriating 1.00

00:32:51.240 things during the Biden administration.

00:32:52.580 And frankly, prior to Biden, it's only a valid asylum claim, potentially, if they show up

00:33:01.640 at a port of entry and declare that they're seeking asylum.

00:33:04.840 They can't run across the border in Laredo, Texas, sneak in past the barbed wire, and then

00:33:10.500 claim asylum, which is what a lot of them do.

00:33:12.440 Those are out.

00:33:13.220 All of those are out.

00:33:14.680 But what's been happening and what absolutely was happening all the time under Biden was

00:33:17.800 they'd come in, correctly or incorrectly, say, I'm seeking asylum.

00:33:23.280 Then they get an asylum date that Joe Biden gave five, and in some cases, 10 years out,

00:33:30.700 which is a permission slip to stay here.

00:33:32.300 Of course, it's a welcome slip.

00:33:34.260 And then in the vast majority of the cases, asylum is denied. 1.00

00:33:38.340 These immigration judges are not idiots. 0.99

00:33:40.440 They know what's happening. 1.00

00:33:41.800 The vast majority say denied, but then they send them out the back of the courthouse and

00:33:48.260 it's honor system.

00:33:50.080 So go back home, which they never do. 0.68

00:33:53.740 You know, only under Trump and Stephen Miller are they changing all of that. 0.53

00:33:57.300 Who applied for asylum with the most ridiculous case ever?

00:33:59.900 Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who had been in the United States so long that he had a child. 0.60

00:34:04.020 This is so many cases just like that.

00:34:06.900 There's so many cases like that, because then the child is an American citizen and you create 0.98

00:34:11.380 a family separation problem that becomes a PR nightmare.

00:34:15.460 And it's a vicious, vicious cycle.

00:34:17.660 So that gets to why there are people on the streets in Minneapolis, just like normal seeming

00:34:23.580 middle class people.

00:34:25.740 You know, they're not all blue haired weirdos there.

00:34:28.180 And I think the right should take that seriously.

00:34:29.640 They're genuinely like people who are relatively normal, who are not liking what they've seen

00:34:35.040 in Minneapolis so much so that they want to do something and go out.

00:34:37.920 And I think a lot of them are woefully misinformed, but it's because of that vicious cycle.

00:34:42.400 And so if there's a carrot method to start relieving the bureaucratic burden, the economic

00:34:48.060 burden on especially people in the low income bracket who are now competing for wages with

00:34:53.240 folks who are willing to take money under the table and all of that, if you want to start

00:34:56.980 relieving the burden, then maybe it's cheaper, easier and less politically dangerous to start,

00:35:04.600 you know, offering more carrots and putting the sticks at least on the back burner for

00:35:09.940 nonviolent offenders.

00:35:11.880 I don't think anybody wants to see people go in light on violent criminals, but otherwise,

00:35:16.880 maybe there are better carrot options.

00:35:19.080 Maybe Jacob Fry.

00:35:19.740 No one on our side.

00:35:21.140 Yeah.

00:35:21.360 Yeah.

00:35:21.640 None of us reasonable people want that.

00:35:23.540 Yeah.

00:35:23.920 This just in, DHS, the superb Bill Malugian, the immigration reporter for Fox.

00:35:28.400 DHS confirms to Fox that the Border Patrol agents involved in the deadly shooting of Alex

00:35:33.240 Peretti in Minnesota have now been placed on administrative leave as part of standard protocol

00:35:37.580 after a shooting.

00:35:39.020 Well, that's, that's how it should be.

00:35:41.620 And that comes as we get new reporting about what actually happened in that shooting.

00:35:50.080 Now, Customs and Border Patrol agents have submitted a report to their overseers in the U.S.

00:35:58.400 Congress.

00:35:58.800 CBS News got its hands on it and is reporting the following.

00:36:02.220 The way this thing went down was there was not an accidental discharge from Alex Peretti's

00:36:07.620 gun, which was some of the speculation.

00:36:10.280 One of the Border Patrol agents grabbed it and walked away with it.

00:36:13.340 And there was some discussion because it may, it looked a little like it went off.

00:36:17.300 They're saying, no, that's not what happened.

00:36:19.180 They're saying, um, what happened was two of the agents actually fired their guns.

00:36:25.860 Uh, they sure enough, they it's, as we said, he resisted a struggle and sued someone yelled

00:36:31.880 an agent, Border Patrol yelled.

00:36:33.680 He's got a gun multiple times.

00:36:35.600 Approximately five seconds later, a Border Patrol agent discharged his official issued Glock

00:36:41.360 19 and another agent also discharged his Glock 47 at pretty after the shooting, a Border Patrol

00:36:49.060 agent advised that he had possession of pretty's firearm.

00:36:53.380 And that'll really be the question.

00:36:55.260 Like after you, the one guy who took the gun, you know, we, we, we believe we see that agent

00:37:01.840 in the gray coat, take the gun from Alex Peretti's back waistband.

00:37:07.100 We believe again, that we'll have to wait for the official results to know, but here it is.

00:37:11.940 This guy on the left reaches in and grabs it.

00:37:16.620 Stand by.

00:37:17.400 And then somebody says, says, gun, gun, gun.

00:37:23.400 And then you see the guy in the green pull his gun and then the shooting happens.

00:37:27.680 But in any event, um, they're saying that guy who pulled the gun apparently did not, at least

00:37:36.780 it's not in the report, Emily, that he, that he said something to the effect of like, I've

00:37:40.900 got it, you know, or he's disarmed or something to take down the temperature.

00:37:46.040 Someone yelled gun, gun, gun.

00:37:47.460 He's got a gun.

00:37:48.480 And within seconds, the shooting took place.

00:37:50.760 So look, I'm sure those Border Patrol agents would like to have that moment back.

00:37:57.420 You know, I don't think they'd be saying, yeah, I think he was clearly about to fire on me.

00:38:02.840 I think they misunderstood what was happening.

00:38:05.000 And I think they'll be fine criminally for the reasons I stated earlier, but that's why

00:38:09.540 Kristi Noem shouldn't have gotten out ahead of her skis and overstated what the facts 1.00

00:38:14.060 showed about him brandishing.

00:38:15.880 And he was wanting to kill as many law enforcement as he could. 0.99

00:38:18.840 And he went there with that intention. 1.00

00:38:20.820 And he's a domestic terrorist.

00:38:23.020 However, our fellow MK Media podcaster, Mark Halperin, says Kristi Noem will not be fired.

00:38:30.920 Trump intimated yesterday.

00:38:32.100 She's not going anywhere.

00:38:33.640 And here's why.

00:38:35.300 Listen to Halperin in Sat 1B.

00:38:36.840 If you want to know why I'm relatively certain that the president is not going to fire

00:38:42.020 Secretary Noem or that she's going to be forced out, despite a lot of speculation about that,

00:38:46.580 she has the support, I'm told, of a friend of hers who's very influential with the president.

00:38:52.740 Her name is Melania Trump.

00:38:54.860 Melania Trump, I'm told, fully supports her friend Kristi Noem.

00:38:57.940 And the president does, too.

00:38:59.680 And the president said that on his departure from the White House today.

00:39:02.440 He said Secretary Noem is doing a great job and she's not going anywhere.

00:39:05.220 Well, that would be a good ally to have inside the White House.

00:39:12.200 I think so.

00:39:13.360 I'm a little bit more skeptical than Mark, but it could be more of an informal demotion

00:39:17.720 because I don't think Donald Trump likes to take L's by firing people particularly,

00:39:22.380 especially in the second administration, because it would reflect on his judgment,

00:39:25.620 would be some type of concession of error.

00:39:27.600 But I could just see here.

00:39:28.660 He doesn't like to give Democrats a scalp.

00:39:31.300 Right.

00:39:31.860 Right.

00:39:32.260 Yeah, exactly.

00:39:32.720 Which is why I was kind of surprised by the Bovino news.

00:39:35.220 And that maybe speaks to the level of discontent within the administration or the infighting,

00:39:39.900 you know, that we are seeing these competing leaks about who gave the talking points to

00:39:43.360 DHS and Noem and CBP and all of that.

00:39:45.620 But I could just see it being sort of she's her her status is lessened.

00:39:50.820 And maybe they want someone else to take over the reins of maybe it's Holman.

00:39:55.280 I mean, I think probably it is clearly.

00:39:56.800 Do we know what she was doing there to begin with?

00:39:59.660 Like, why wasn't it?

00:40:00.660 Holman's been in charge of the deportations, not Noem.

00:40:03.340 I know.

00:40:03.800 And there's this massive storm that was bearing down.

00:40:07.280 I mean, she's also in charge of FEMA, as she's pointed out a couple of times in her

00:40:10.800 allies have pointed out a couple of times in the last few days.

00:40:13.280 So I don't understand it.

00:40:15.900 But my my guess would be for publicity reasons.

00:40:19.020 And that's not always a bad thing.

00:40:20.420 Right.

00:40:20.700 You want to get out in front of these stories.

00:40:22.760 You want to be on the ground saying, here's all of the people that we've gotten who are

00:40:26.820 violent criminals.

00:40:27.480 And here's the success of the operation.

00:40:29.160 But when things go badly, that's the risk.

00:40:33.120 Because what happened was Nick Shirley broke the fraud story over the Christmas break and

00:40:39.360 everyone was outraged.

00:40:40.580 And there was a lot of pushback against the administration saying, OK, you're outraged,

00:40:44.040 too.

00:40:44.140 What are you going to do about it?

00:40:45.340 Do something.

00:40:46.320 And then you got the Christie Noem.

00:40:48.100 We're surging agents to Minneapolis.

00:40:50.000 And it was like, OK, great.

00:40:51.940 They're going to go into these leering center supposed to be learning, you know, where they're

00:40:58.100 collecting, obviously, false checks from the government for allegedly helping children.

00:41:02.040 And they're going to make a bunch of busts. 0.93

00:41:04.360 Now, that would be DHS and not Homan.

00:41:07.100 That's not a deportation thing. 0.97

00:41:08.760 That's a you're a bunch of Somali fraudsters, half of whom are illegals committing fraud against 1.00

00:41:14.040 us. 0.97

00:41:14.340 So that made some sense.

00:41:16.760 But instead, and Trump says that investigation is still well underway and we're not we're not

00:41:21.980 letting up on that at all.

00:41:23.580 But instead, it's it at the same time, it was like surge of immigration enforcement troops

00:41:30.280 in Minneapolis to do deportations, which always should have been a Homan thing, at least as 1.00

00:41:37.040 I understood the administration's plan.

00:41:39.400 Meanwhile.

00:41:42.520 It's not going well for the left in handling any of this.

00:41:47.520 And I'll just give you one example.

00:41:49.160 Here's the always perfectly reasonable Kara Swisher and her co-host Scott Galloway, who

00:41:55.160 normally is the more sane one between them, though, I'm telling you, like, you know how

00:41:59.620 they say you become like your friends, like you really do have to watch who you hang out

00:42:02.520 with because you become like them.

00:42:04.200 He needs to think about that.

00:42:06.080 Here is Kara Swisher on Stephen Miller on Tuesday.

00:42:09.980 And I would last like to call out Stephen Miller, who is in the center of this.

00:42:15.960 We always focus on Trump as we often focus on the top people.

00:42:20.240 But Stephen Miller, like a man named Ben Detson, he was the one who created the internment

00:42:25.080 camps for Japanese.

00:42:26.420 Heinrich Himmler in the in the in the Nazi regime.

00:42:30.120 This is what he is.

00:42:30.960 And he he he he of course, Trump gets the most of the blame being the top at the top.

00:42:37.160 But people like Stephen Miller will go down in history as evil, had blood on his hands

00:42:44.120 and should be jailed at the very end of this. 0.62

00:42:47.300 OK, Emily, clearly she wants Stephen Miller dead.

00:42:53.260 And I posted that on X last night. 0.90

00:42:54.900 She's not gonna be happy until Stephen Miller's killed. 0.66

00:42:57.160 Why else would you directly compare him to Himmler, the guy who came up with the extermination 0.97

00:43:05.300 scheme for the Nazis, the guy who figured out if we gas him, you know, in these extermination 0.97

00:43:12.120 chambers, that'll be a really efficient way of killing all these millions of Jews. 1.00

00:43:17.900 And so that our agents don't have to be disgusted by like shooting them and having guts and blood 1.00

00:43:24.480 blow back on them.

00:43:26.120 That's Himmler.

00:43:27.180 That's that's the role he played under Adolf Hitler.

00:43:30.440 She's literally saying Stephen Miller is that guy. 0.99

00:43:33.720 I mean, that's fucking crazy talk and really, truly incendiary stuff. 0.96

00:43:39.180 And why else would you say that? 0.99

00:43:42.080 Would you make a comparison?

00:43:43.040 And by the way, where are all like the Holocaust groups and so on?

00:43:45.720 Usually like they're they're all over you.

00:43:47.900 If you make any sort of a comparison to the Holocaust, even Tim Walsh got it worse for saying

00:43:52.960 the kids in Minneapolis who are hiding are like the modern day Anne Frank.

00:43:56.360 But she can compare an American administration official who's trying to enforce our immigration

00:44:01.220 laws to Himmler and not a peep.

00:44:04.040 I think I think we should hear a peep.

00:44:05.940 Is it just because she's a leftist?

00:44:07.740 What is it?

00:44:08.120 I don't I don't know what the reason or maybe she's just irrelevant, but I'm sorry.

00:44:11.660 That's too far.

00:44:12.520 That's beyond the pale.

00:44:13.940 I was going to say, I think the answer is that Kara Swisher is not nearly important enough

00:44:17.880 to warrant a rebuke from.

00:44:20.720 But, you know, on the right, I think they would be eager to rebuke someone who made a

00:44:24.060 direct Himmler comparison to a top person in the White House.

00:44:29.260 So she's basically saying the exact same thing as Tim Walsh.

00:44:32.360 I mean, there is like no daylight.

00:44:34.300 What she's saying might even be worse because she directly invoked Himmler.

00:44:38.980 So maybe we will see something from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum because they're

00:44:42.900 the ones who rebuked Walls over his Anne Frank comparison.

00:44:45.760 And there's, again, very little daylight.

00:44:48.080 This is not just calling ICE the Gestapo.

00:44:50.720 This is going further and saying you are like someone who is engineering a genocide of people

00:44:58.540 who you think are like biologically inferior. 0.93

00:45:02.420 It's really, really gross.

00:45:03.940 And to your point, Megan, it always reminds me of what Tyler Robinson allegedly texted about

00:45:09.780 how some hate can't be negotiated with.

00:45:12.460 I'm paraphrasing it, but that was the gist of it.

00:45:14.660 The language does get people hurt.

00:45:18.520 Yeah, you really need to be more careful than that.

00:45:21.040 And Stephen Miller, I happen to know, is already, he and his wife and their young kids, and

00:45:25.640 she's pregnant, are already under daily death threats. 0.92

00:45:28.920 And not the mild kind, not like the, I'll come kill you, I can't stand you kind, but like, 0.99

00:45:35.440 this is exactly what I'm going to do to you. 1.00

00:45:37.020 I'm going to find you.

00:45:37.940 And, you know, like the ones that really seem to mean it.

00:45:39.700 And this is no way to live.

00:45:40.920 I mean, this guy's trying to clean up a mess that was not of his own making at all, trying

00:45:46.240 to save the young girls from being molested and raped and thrown off bridges.

00:45:50.060 That's what Stephen Miller's trying to do. 1.00

00:45:51.440 And for it, he gets called Himmler by Kara Swisher, who is another rich bitch who has fucking 1.00

00:45:58.440 no concerns whatsoever about security in her life and will never have to deal with the 1.00

00:46:02.980 consequences of these violent illegals coming into her neighborhood and murdering her in 1.00

00:46:09.020 her bathtub. 0.98

00:46:09.580 Like we talked about yesterday.

00:46:11.460 So here is the normally saner one, Scott Galloway, on the same podcast, Sop9.

00:46:19.720 What I'm suggesting is, and again, I've struggled with this my whole life, the difference between

00:46:24.660 being right and being effective.

00:46:25.920 And we're angry, and I get it, protesting is powerful.

00:46:30.040 Promising them that there will be an accountability.

00:46:32.700 And I've said this, I think there should be something equivalent to the Nuremberg trials

00:46:35.820 after this is all over.

00:46:37.100 And to make it clear that once we're back in power, which we will be, this is going to

00:46:42.100 happen.

00:46:42.820 And the statute of limitations on murder is never.

00:46:45.820 I mean, they're not kidding around.

00:46:49.320 Like, I actually believe, you're hearing this more and more, that there's going to be some

00:46:54.800 sort of trials of Trump administration officials after his term ends and of those who supported

00:47:01.260 them.

00:47:01.580 And he mentions Nuremberg.

00:47:04.580 The audience knows I just watched that with Russell Crowe on, I don't know, I think it

00:47:08.120 was Netflix.

00:47:08.800 Terrible.

00:47:09.360 Don't waste your time.

00:47:10.300 Very disappointing.

00:47:11.720 Remy Malek.

00:47:13.160 Yeah.

00:47:15.440 I thought Remy Malek peaked in the documentary on Queen and Freddie Mercury.

00:47:20.180 He was great.

00:47:20.960 He was not great in this film.

00:47:22.280 I did not enjoy it.

00:47:23.500 But in any event, okay.

00:47:24.100 So, but the Nuremberg trials is where they came up with crimes against humanity. 1.00

00:47:30.000 This like amorphous, you're just evil and you should be hanged. 1.00

00:47:35.320 Okay. 1.00

00:47:35.620 And it worked. 0.99

00:47:36.460 I mean, make perfect sense when you're dealing with actual Nazis, but like that shit is not 1.00

00:47:43.200 going to fly in the United States of America. 0.99

00:47:45.340 And, uh, if you want to go after a specific individual for murder, you know, I certainly

00:47:51.520 don't think that that should happen to these border patrol agents, but like he's, you don't

00:47:55.420 need Nuremberg for that.

00:47:56.540 Why are, why are they mentioning, mentioning Nuremberg, right?

00:47:59.060 Like that's, you go with made up new crimes against anybody who quote supported it.

00:48:05.560 Well, and again, we have seen two tragic U.S. citizen deaths, but we have seen two tragic

00:48:13.880 deaths.

00:48:14.540 I hope it does not get worse, but to compare it to the Holocaust, when we are talking about 0.71

00:48:19.280 millions of people being genocided is absolutely insane and completely crazy, dangerous rhetoric

00:48:28.740 over the top, reckless, irresponsible.

00:48:31.300 But of course, Kara Swisher is one of the people who is constantly lecturing everybody 0.79

00:48:35.040 else on the responsible way to do politics and to talk and, uh, to, you know, be a, to,

00:48:41.300 to maintain the moral high ground and all of this, um, looks down her nose at MAGA and all

00:48:46.460 of that.

00:48:46.940 Meanwhile, is comparing, uh, two very, very tragic deaths to a circumstance where you

00:48:52.100 saw millions of people, millions of people dead.

00:48:55.320 Um, it's, it's completely insane and reckless.

00:48:59.060 And to use Nuremberg, again, you're talking about the same millions and millions of people

00:49:04.320 who were genocided.

00:49:06.360 And I have to think you would be putting Obama and Biden in jeopardy if you tried to make

00:49:14.320 some sort of case that Kristi Noem or Stephen Miller or Greg Bovino or Donald Trump themselves

00:49:20.380 were committing crimes against humanity with their immigration policies. 1.00

00:49:25.420 Because yes, Trump has escalated.

00:49:28.020 Absolutely.

00:49:29.240 Uh, but on a smaller scale, the Obama administration was, uh, handling immigrant, they were doing

00:49:34.680 family separation.

00:49:35.700 These guys didn't care then.

00:49:36.900 They didn't care about those family separations.

00:49:38.700 Not at all.

00:49:39.980 And by the way, Obama droned an American citizen without apology.

00:49:44.140 And he, where's his Nuremberg trial?

00:49:47.560 That didn't happen.

00:49:48.300 Trump didn't drone an American citizen.

00:49:50.360 This was, these were law enforcement officers out there being interfered with by a guy who

00:49:54.820 then resisted arrest while happening to be armed, amping up the pressure and the stress

00:50:01.620 on the officers all the more with these activists around them blowing the whistles.

00:50:06.340 And there's more evidence that this guy, Freddie, was an activist too.

00:50:09.780 We'll get to the signal chat information that has just broken on him.

00:50:13.620 But I mean, you compare the two, like drones authorized by the US president and individuals

00:50:20.200 who are harassing law enforcement, actually finding themselves on the wrong end of that

00:50:24.140 fight.

00:50:24.520 It's two totally different situations, but Kara Swisher won't be calling for that.

00:50:29.240 Um, all right, standby.

00:50:30.000 There's a lot more to get to EJ stays with us.

00:50:32.020 Yeah.

00:50:32.780 Point is there were millions of people who were trafficked by cartels up to the border

00:50:36.420 under the Biden administration, some of which was done with funding from the Biden government.

00:50:41.000 So there were no tears.

00:50:42.480 You and I talked about it during those years, but no tears from Kara Swisher or Scott Galloway

00:50:46.180 at the time for that.

00:50:47.500 Or Natalie Portman.

00:50:48.460 All right, we'll be right back.

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00:52:31.460 Start then with Ethan Hawke.

00:52:33.480 All right.

00:52:34.200 Now, I know we're all feeling really sad about what's happened to Ethan Hawke.

00:52:39.120 If you don't know what's happened to Ethan Hawke, I'm going to let him tell it to you.

00:52:42.680 But it's very, very sad.

00:52:44.260 He spoke out Monday from the Sundance Film Festival.

00:52:51.360 You're feeling yourself well up already, aren't you?

00:52:54.760 Speaking to Variety, SOT 14.

00:52:56.800 I never felt scared about what I was going to say until the last couple years, where you

00:53:04.560 feel like, oh, I have to be careful, or what.

00:53:08.520 I don't know.

00:53:09.140 But there's a kind of fear in the air that I've never felt before.

00:53:13.260 And it's not America.

00:53:15.180 To get to be an artist in a free country, I've had enough of an education to know what a

00:53:21.500 privilege that is.

00:53:22.620 And I don't feel that way anymore.

00:53:25.700 And that's something that has to change.

00:53:27.420 Okay, so he's feeling really scared to speak his mind under Trump 2.0.

00:53:35.120 I mean, we look back just to see if there was evidence of him shying away from controversial

00:53:38.880 topics out of his fear.

00:53:40.260 I mean, I totally take him at his word.

00:53:41.620 I'm sure he is really fearful of Trump.

00:53:43.740 We didn't have to go far.

00:53:44.680 We went to January 5th and found the following.

00:53:51.260 Let's take a listen to SOT 16.

00:53:52.640 See how fearful he is.

00:53:53.420 I'm a little in shock about that.

00:53:54.580 You know, I was already upset about the Kennedy Center on her.

00:53:58.340 And now we're bombing of some...

00:54:00.160 Oh.

00:54:01.580 Could you make sense of any of it?

00:54:06.300 No, I can make sense out of it in that, you know, I've done enough Shakespeare plays

00:54:15.300 to know that power corrupts.

00:54:17.040 Shakespeare right next to you.

00:54:18.240 I know.

00:54:19.020 I know.

00:54:19.820 Exactly.

00:54:20.820 But, you know, it's a common theme of mankind.

00:54:24.580 It's that, you know, nothing that's happening to us as Americans or civilians isn't anything

00:54:29.540 that hasn't happened to humanity.

00:54:31.660 I mean, we're surrounded. 0.94

00:54:33.280 History is littered with despots and selfish people and greedy people.

00:54:36.920 And they make the rules for the kind people. 0.97

00:54:40.420 Well, you just seem that shy.

00:54:42.420 But maybe when he says the past couple of years, he's going back to like, oh, it's like right

00:54:47.660 before Trump got elected and everybody was calling him Hitler and he knew Hitler might 0.92

00:54:51.300 get elected and he was scared.

00:54:52.640 Let's go back to his appearance on The View, October 2025, SOT 17.

00:54:57.180 We were talking about Trump wanting $230 million from the Department of Justice for investigating

00:55:04.860 him.

00:55:05.220 Yes.

00:55:05.880 He wants that money.

00:55:07.460 Is anybody here old enough to remember when Jimmy Carter gave up his family farm to make

00:55:12.920 sure he didn't have conflict of interest?

00:55:14.840 Yes, his peanut farm.

00:55:15.560 Because he wanted to protect the farmers.

00:55:17.560 He didn't want to see.

00:55:18.960 It's called integrity.

00:55:20.700 Yeah.

00:55:21.040 And it's starting to show the lack of it.

00:55:23.440 It's pretty obvious.

00:55:25.580 OK, I'm not exactly sure when the newfound fear started.

00:55:28.420 Maybe it was just at Sundance, Emily.

00:55:30.760 It just came upon him in the wake of what's happened in Minneapolis that you can no longer

00:55:35.380 say how you really feel.

00:55:36.600 Let's take a look at more of the interview to see if he was, you know, shy about expressing

00:55:40.600 his reservations on Trump.

00:55:42.200 SOT 15.

00:55:42.680 SOT 15.

00:56:12.680 We're fighting for it.

00:56:13.260 We all know what greed and oppression are, and we all know what to do.

00:56:17.300 We feel the truth in our stomachs.

00:56:19.680 So we've got to figure out how to take care of one another.

00:56:22.700 Everybody.

00:56:24.680 Just further, are we clear on what Trump's oligarchy has taken away from Ethan Hawke?

00:56:30.120 Like, I kind of have a feeling he's mixing his favorite issues there, Emily.

00:56:35.060 But I would say the jury is in and they do not find Ethan Hawke in any way reluctant to share

00:56:41.480 his obnoxious, uninformed, Hollywood, baseless opinions.

00:56:47.500 I am stunned by the brazenness with which he said it is a new thing for people to have to

00:56:53.840 worry in Hollywood about what they say.

00:56:56.320 He mentioned that, quote, history is littered with despots.

00:56:59.760 Dude, recent history in Hollywood is littered with examples of people who were canceled, lost

00:57:07.380 their jobs, lost parts of their career.

00:57:10.640 Many of them have been on this show.

00:57:12.240 Maybe you should tune in because they said something that wasn't even conservative, but

00:57:16.840 it was just like moderately critical of cultural progressivism, maybe BLM, maybe transing children 0.98

00:57:24.540 there.

00:57:25.700 That is what is littering Hollywood's recent history.

00:57:28.420 That is like such a brazen and insane thing to say, given the last 10 years.

00:57:33.520 Yeah.

00:57:34.380 Talk about having zero clue how the other side lives, meaning the conservative side.

00:57:39.980 I mean, none whatsoever, that they continue to live in fear.

00:57:43.140 I mean, we just had Zach Levi on a month ago who said he's convinced he's been gray listed

00:57:48.900 as a result of not even being a conservative.

00:57:52.080 He's a libertarian who's Maha.

00:57:55.040 He kind of likes what Kennedy's doing, but you're not allowed to like Kennedy, who up until

00:57:59.760 two minutes ago was a Democrat.

00:58:01.620 But he's a bad Democrat, you see, because he's the kind who doesn't vaccinate everybody

00:58:07.080 with everything and mandates.

00:58:10.120 And also, he had the nerve to go work for the Trump administration.

00:58:12.860 So that's just for that.

00:58:15.180 Zachary Levi has been, quote, gray listed.

00:58:18.000 But we could be here all day talking about how true conservatives aren't allowed to exist

00:58:22.580 in Hollywood.

00:58:23.140 They have to hide it.

00:58:23.820 All of them have to hide it.

00:58:24.720 Or even moderates, like you were saying, Zachary Levi, left critics of progressivism.

00:58:31.180 I mean, it's just the last 10 years of Hollywood history have been completely like there were

00:58:37.180 people who are actually comparing it to Red Scare, Joseph McCarthy era in dead seriousness.

00:58:43.180 And I think, listen, one of my little bugaboos is the concerns that people have about Joe

00:58:48.620 McCarthy, who I think has been largely vindicated.

00:58:50.900 But we don't need to go down that rabbit hole to say people were genuinely scared of the

00:58:55.700 progressive left for the last 10 years in Hollywood.

00:58:58.080 So to have the audacity right now to say under Trump he's afraid, even though Hollywood stars

00:59:05.240 are constantly saying all of this stuff without being criticized or without being penalized

00:59:10.080 by the Trump administration, find one example, find one example of the government going after

00:59:15.320 someone criticizing Donald Trump.

00:59:18.120 Matt Taibbi had the IRS show up at his house under Joe Biden.

00:59:21.940 They showed up at his house on like Christmas Eve while he was working on Biden era censorship

00:59:27.040 stories.

00:59:28.120 I mean, give me one example of that happening to somebody in Hollywood because they were critical

00:59:32.840 of Trump. 0.98

00:59:34.320 It's ridiculous. 0.97

00:59:35.400 Oh, and by the way, speaking of Joe Biden, he's actually out there posting on X right now 0.96

00:59:39.380 about how terrible ICE is and how they murdered two American citizens.

00:59:45.360 Not one drop of blood that has been shed did not originate with Joe Biden.

00:59:50.560 It's all Joe Biden's fault.

00:59:52.940 That's the reason Trump got elected.

00:59:54.800 That's the reason Trump surged Homan and Nome and everybody else to these cities to try to

00:59:59.380 crack down on the illegals that he led in.

01:00:02.720 There's not a problem we're dealing with right now that doesn't originate with his open border

01:00:07.860 policies. Even the arrests we're making of people who got here before Joe Biden are as

01:00:12.440 a result of Joe Biden, because those people probably would have been left alone.

01:00:16.040 We weren't actively doing a great job of deporting illegals here until Joe Biden threw all caution

01:00:22.060 to the wind and opened the borders for anyone and everyone who wanted it for those four years.

01:00:26.920 So he can sit this one out.

01:00:28.400 Okay. On the subject of Hollywood celebrities who really, they're very disturbed by what's

01:00:34.340 going on here. I mean, I just like Ellen too. She's upset, Emily. She's very upset. And she tweeted

01:00:41.480 out over the weekend, you know, after Freddie was killed, it's a tough day to feel like celebrating

01:00:49.020 a birthday. I'm holding space for what's happening in our world and holding close what I'm grateful

01:00:54.720 for. Like my wife and cookies. That's literally what our posts, how it reads and cookies. She's

01:01:03.640 having real trouble processing, um, her birthday overseas, but not really. She's fine. She's got

01:01:11.240 hundreds of millions and you don't. And she's having cookies. So fuck Alex Freddie.

01:01:15.680 She's also having trouble remaining overseas because as the daily mail has reported recently, 1.00

01:01:19.960 uh, they want to come back to LA. They want to be back in like Montecito because who wouldn't want

01:01:24.840 to be back in Montecito to be honest. Uh, so we'll save, see if she even stays overseas after making 0.93

01:01:30.000 such a big point. That's true. That's true. That might be what it is. I mean, they're out in the

01:01:37.900 country. Nobody cares that you're Ellen DeGeneres. No one cares. You've lost your fame, which is your 1.00

01:01:45.080 only thing that matters to you and your cookies. I mean, who the hell would be like, it's a tough

01:01:50.340 day to celebrate, you know, thoughts and prayers. And I have cookies, but like, what the F that's

01:01:55.920 just like, she clearly has abandoned all PR help because that, that is tone deaf. Um, Molly Ringwald 0.53

01:02:02.600 is another one. She was the it girl when I was growing up, 16 candles, breakfast club, pretty in pink. 0.98

01:02:10.220 She's spent the rest of her adult life ripping poor John Hughes, the man who made her a star and

01:02:16.880 a multimillionaire to shreds, uh, suggesting he was somehow part of the me too movement for his

01:02:23.020 inappropriate eighties body humor, which I think we all miss. It was funny and it made us laugh. Um,

01:02:32.260 in any event, Molly Ringwald, she's got thoughts on ice and I mean, she, this is, she really leans in.

01:02:39.460 She did not phone this in watch. There's something horrible, horrible going on in our country right

01:02:46.740 now. Got the beanie. And we have one of the greatest countries had one of the greatest countries

01:02:51.780 in the world had, and I've always been so proud to be an American, but right now this is a fascist

01:03:00.520 government. It's not becoming a fascist government. It is a fascist government. And ice is brutalizing

01:03:09.400 people. You know, if you look at what happened in France, you know, they were taken over by the

01:03:14.040 Nazis. A lot of people, a lot of people, uh, collaborated. And then there were people that

01:03:19.840 did not collaborate and were part of the resistance. Um, eventually they got their country back

01:03:27.340 and those people who collaborated were found to be criminal. And that is what's going to happen.

01:03:35.900 If you only care about yourself, then realize that you are going to be seen as a collaborationist.

01:03:43.300 So please, please use your voice and protest. These are children who are being taken away from their

01:03:50.640 parents. These are mothers. No, they're not who are being killed. Please do the right thing and stand

01:03:57.360 up and use your voice. Okay. Um, we're back to the Nazi situate. Hello, Holocaust museum. Hello. 0.74

01:04:07.520 Hello. You have a lot of tweeting to do. There's, there's another person who is using the Holocaust 0.95

01:04:13.460 and Nazis to make a point about what's happening with ice. I think we object. Do we not Holocaust 0.99

01:04:19.260 museum? Molly Ringwald should be on the front of your agenda today, going to how France was taken

01:04:26.260 over by the Nazis. We, we had one of the greatest countries, but it's now fascist. It's not becoming,

01:04:33.060 it is fascist. She knows all of this because she points out in the video,

01:04:37.260 she lived in France for a couple of years in her twenties, Emily. So she knows fascism when she sees it.

01:04:48.140 Okay. Oh my gosh. It's like the girl who studied abroad, like sophomore year and came back and was

01:04:53.580 like, these are not real croissant. This is not a real baguette. That's what she's doing. She's 0.71

01:04:58.120 like, this is fascism. I lived in France. So I'm a little bit of an authority.

01:05:03.140 Yeah. She was wearing the beret. Oh, I didn't even think about that. I wonder if she planned that

01:05:10.820 actually, I would not put it past her mega, but she's sitting there by the way, in the comfort

01:05:14.020 of her own bed that in a fascist regime, in a truly fascist regime, the idea of you just comfortably

01:05:20.580 sitting in your own bed and using your massive platform as a celebrity to call the president a

01:05:26.200 fascist and have no consequences. Yes. No, the government's not coming after them.

01:05:32.040 You're at Sundance. You're talking into a microphone on the red carpet to Variety.

01:05:39.460 You're in like a $10,000 suit.

01:05:41.160 Whatever the hell you want.

01:05:43.200 Right. Yes.

01:05:44.640 And by the way, let me tell you something else about Ethan Hawke. When I first moved to New York

01:05:48.860 in 2007, the second time, um, I lived down in Chelsea and there's this great place called the

01:05:56.060 Chelsea hotel, which is very cool. And it's got all this murals inside. I don't know if it's still

01:05:59.860 there, but Ethan Hawke used to sit right in the front where there were like these little, it was

01:06:06.600 like a counter just waiting for someone to see him. It was like, hello, hello. There was that place.

01:06:12.340 And there was this little diner right on the corner of where we live. He was in either place.

01:06:15.840 He was right in the window. Most actual celebrities, you know, like you're talking about like a Julia

01:06:19.840 Roberts. She probably wouldn't even go to a place like that. But if you ever see them, they're always

01:06:24.480 in the back in a corner with their back to the people who are passing by. They are not. Hello. It's

01:06:30.240 me, Ethan Hawke. Hi. He's just upset that no one gives a shit what he has to say anymore.

01:06:38.280 As a major celebrity, Megan, I'm always taking the booth in the back. If I go to a subway, 0.99

01:06:43.480 the local subway, always at the booth with my turkey sub. But this is also so infuriating because

01:06:48.840 we were just talking about how... I forgot to ask you how After Party has changed your life.

01:06:54.760 You know, it's made, it has made it more difficult for me to get the turkey sub without having to

01:06:59.160 also respond to all of the well-wishers and the people who are asking for autographs of their turkey

01:07:04.040 sub. So thank you for recognizing that. It has been hard. Thank you.

01:07:10.040 You were saying Molly Ringwald. Sorry, I interrupted.

01:07:12.440 No, no, no. Molly Ringwald, like talking about mothers and children. And this is so maddening,

01:07:16.860 because again, during the Biden administration on a daily basis, there were mothers and children

01:07:21.000 being trafficked, partially with money that was flowing to NGOs from the United States government,

01:07:26.080 from taxpayers who were, for example, making it easier for folks to go and cross the Darien Gap where

01:07:31.320 women were getting raped. They were sending them in with condoms because it was so dangerous. And

01:07:36.760 they were doing that because of the Biden administration's policies. They said it over

01:07:40.440 and over again. So we're being let in. So we are coming. And those people deserved a whole lot of

01:07:46.200 tears. You and I talked about it. They deserved a lot of like they were going through hell to get up

01:07:51.160 to the United States because the Biden administration was like, hey, you can you could come in. And all of

01:07:56.600 that was empowering the cartels to hurt more and more people. Lots of people died. Lots of

01:08:01.080 people were sexually assaulted and raped. And none of these guys cared about that. And partially the 0.74

01:08:05.880 reason is because they and their rich friends benefited from all of the cheap labor that was

01:08:10.200 flooding into the United States. So it wasn't even on their radar.

01:08:14.520 OK, so it's the irony of like these incredible celebrities with their millions making their

01:08:21.000 comments like Ethan Hawke from Sundance. Oh, and Molly Ringwald, I'm told by my team,

01:08:24.840 just got back from Sundance. OK, soon as she got back.

01:08:31.800 She wanted us to know this is a fascist country immediately after getting back.

01:08:37.560 She wanted us to know is it is now fascist right now. OK, this second France, France was taken over

01:08:44.520 by the Nazis. Some were complicit and others weren't. That's Molly. There's also Katie,

01:08:52.360 Katie Perry. She's urging her fans saying we have till Friday, January 30th to block 10 billion dollars

01:09:00.760 from going through to ice. This is back to the attempt to stop the spending provisions from going

01:09:06.440 through. This has already been negotiated. And there now these Democrats are talking about trying to stop

01:09:12.040 it. Like they're not going to fund ice. Ice is still going to get its funding, but they're trying

01:09:16.280 to stop the latest tranche so that ice agents won't get paid. Katie Perry is going to get paid. 1.00

01:09:23.000 She'll have no trouble whatsoever cashing her checks. And she also clearly doesn't care about 1.00

01:09:28.200 the Minneapolis children who are going to be brutalized by pedophiles who are illegals. She's 0.95

01:09:33.800 fine with that, apparently. Otherwise, she wouldn't be opposing ice getting paid. And Katie Perry is 0.94

01:09:41.480 constantly leading the life of a hypocrite. She absolutely doesn't actually care about children 1.00

01:09:47.640 of America because she would have stood up for the ones who are being brutalized by illegals. 0.97

01:09:52.600 She only cares about the illegals because I think she thinks that's popular on her side. But here's 0.73

01:09:57.880 another thing. She is supposed to be some sort of environmental activist, Emily, which I didn't know. 0.90

01:10:05.400 I actually did not know that. But as it turns out, she is. And you tell me whether what she did in

01:10:12.920 space right here, V4 is or is not environmentally friendly. Let's watch it. Yeah. There they go.

01:10:24.840 You love this so much. There she is. You'll never get tired of this.

01:10:27.320 She's she just got off of her her rocket ship. She's Alan Shepard. There she is. I love it so much.

01:10:35.400 And she is kissing the ground. And also, not just that, but she showed up at Davos because she

01:10:41.640 cares. You know, they always do climate change at Davos. She showed up at Davos here. She is floating,

01:10:46.520 floating. How much how much carbon expenditures happened there so that you could float? The combustion

01:10:52.760 emissions from rocket launchers affect both the climate and the stratospheric ozone layer,

01:10:59.560 says Sustainability Magazine. It's very, very bad, Katie. But she showed up at Davos because she does

01:11:05.900 care about the environment. And she wants us all to know that, to do as she says, not as she does.

01:11:11.380 And here she was walking around Davos with Justin Trudeau's bodyguard holding her arm to to combat the very

01:11:21.480 evil rebel news, which is our favorite outlet up in Canada. And Ezra Klein, who's up there, does great

01:11:29.200 reporting. Katy Perry, Ezra Levant, not Ezra Klein, Ezra Levant. And Katy Perry is very, very happy to have her life

01:11:39.460 guarded by a team of security professionals. But she does not want little children who will be attacked or raped and 0.57

01:11:48.980 abused by these illegals to have the same protections, Emily. So the hypocrisy abounds. 1.00

01:11:55.700 Justin Open Borders, Trudeau, perfect fit for Katy Perry. Unfortunately, they make a beautiful pair,

01:12:03.660 the perfect couple for Davos, where everybody is celebrating with probably the nicest champagne you

01:12:09.880 could imagine and the nicest hotels you can imagine and lecturing the rest of the world on wanting to

01:12:16.460 deal with the obviously problematic mass immigration trends that, guess who? Democrats and people on the

01:12:23.360 left all around Western Europe have actually saddled people who are even supportive of them in other

01:12:29.960 policy areas with, and they're upset about it. And, you know, if you go to Davos, you can just have

01:12:34.680 your security prevent you from ever having to answer questions from those folks that you've alienated.

01:12:40.260 Or you can just sit and make cow eyes at Justin Trudeau. The two of them in this video are just like

01:12:47.500 winking at each other. One winks. Ew, he just winked. And now she winked back.

01:12:55.260 This is the most pathetic flirting. And it's exactly what you would think they'd be capable of, 0.99

01:12:59.440 right? These two, like, they've never done anything outside of missionary. That's very clear.

01:13:03.880 Sorry. Like, very clear. There's no game there. And then back with a heavy, ah, okay. Okay.

01:13:16.440 It's not where I expected you to go with that. 0.99

01:13:20.200 It's pathetic. It's very sad. All right, wait, I've got one more celeb that I want to 0.99

01:13:25.020 show you what's on his mind, because I know everybody was wondering, what about Ben and Jerry?

01:13:29.540 How are they handling all of this? And here's Ben Cohen, the co-founder of the ice cream brand,

01:13:36.140 Sotten. I was prepared to make a special ice cream today to memorialize and celebrate the life of

01:13:43.320 Renee Good. But now that Alex's murder makes it clear that the murder of Renee and the government's

01:13:49.800 lies were not a mistake, but standard operating procedure, I just don't have it within me.

01:13:55.820 This is not the right to free speech or the right to protest. This is not America. This is sheer

01:14:01.220 cruelty. This is the beginning of the end of the land of the free, unless we make it the home of the

01:14:08.440 brave, unless we're brave enough to stand up for justice, to stand up for our neighbors, to stand up

01:14:16.000 for compassion. Ice must be defunded and disbanded. Unless it's ice cream, and in which case we'll save

01:14:26.000 the world. I mean, like, even I could come up with the right, like, pretty good. Like, come on, Ben,

01:14:32.200 you can do it. I mean, he doesn't, he, he actually wants us to think this is the end because

01:14:37.320 he, he can't, he just can't make the ice cream with, in, in honor of them, Emily. It's because

01:14:42.720 again, fascism, it's here, it's here. Unless, unless the land of the brave takes over. I mean,

01:14:49.980 like the empty pablum that these rich gazillionaires offer safe in their multi-million dollar homes,

01:14:57.620 not like the children who are getting brutalized by the illegals, right? It's so tiresome and they're, 1.00

01:15:03.580 they have zero self-awareness. And I always want to like the Ben and Jerry's guys because I have a

01:15:08.960 soft spot for, like, hippies, old school leftists who are really crunchy and genuinely, like, they'll

01:15:14.800 go out to protest, like a, like a Susan Sarandon or someone like that. But in this case, it's very

01:15:21.100 offensive to say, unless the United States becomes the home of the brave, because that feels to me like

01:15:28.180 downplaying a whole lot of bravery that Americans have demonstrated. There are people, he may not

01:15:36.000 like this, but even in the Biden area, era, who were working in ICE and CBP, particularly CBP, who

01:15:42.160 were targeted by cartels, cartels who were being funded by the policies of the Biden administration,

01:15:48.060 and were pretty brave in dealing with those types of threats, are still pretty brave in dealing with

01:15:53.940 those types of threats. And some of them might, by the way, might not even be Republicans or

01:15:58.480 conservatives. So I just find that idea that unless we become the home of the brave, that is, that is

01:16:04.880 borderline offensive. And the time where I felt like fascism was creeping into the United States is when

01:16:10.600 I couldn't send the damn New York Post link to their Hunter Biden story in a direct message on Twitter 0.97

01:16:17.660 in 2020. It said, you're not allowed to send this in a private message, and it knew the link that I was 0.98

01:16:22.420 sending and it blocked it. That made me feel like there was creeping fascism.

01:16:28.000 When you had all of NIH trying to ruin doctors who pushed back on their lies and dogma, like

01:16:37.060 Fauci and Collins going after Bhattacharya, Martin Kulldorff, the lists were long that they try to smear

01:16:45.560 and diminish, half of whom are running our government now. Thank God. Scott Atlas was another one.

01:16:50.800 Yeah, that felt a little bit more like fascism than this does to me.

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01:19:28.280 The Loons, though, like, they're nasty, and I actually do think they're potentially dangerous.

01:19:38.360 Like, this guy, Alex Preddy, he, I don't know what, I actually do want to see more about what he was all

01:19:45.840 about, right? Because the average person, if they had a physical confrontation with ICE one week earlier,

01:19:51.780 in which five guards were all over you and you broke a rib, would not go back out there,

01:19:55.560 but this time with a loaded gun. And now there's reporting about how he knew, how he was part of

01:20:02.440 this group that knew where ICE was. They were, they were tracking them, we believe, in a signal chat.

01:20:10.340 Andy Ngo tweeting this out, a signal chat log show a user stalking federal agents with guidance

01:20:15.120 and instruction from other far left insurgents, matching details of Alex Preddy. Andy linked to

01:20:22.520 research done by an ex-account called Oversight Project, no link to the House Oversight Project,

01:20:27.620 but it's a legal watchdog group that looks into things like this. And what they report is that

01:20:33.960 Alex Preddy appears, they're not totally sure, they can't be without having the metadata and all that,

01:20:41.060 but he appears to have been on this signal messaging chain that's marked leave chat, delete chat,

01:20:47.060 where anti-ICE activists directed resources to the place where Alex Preddy went and was shot.

01:20:54.100 We've ID'd a user, they write, Alvin Q, who may have been Preddy. They write that in this chat,

01:21:02.080 coordinators like user Salacious B. Crum spot and direct resources to thwart ICE's enforcement

01:21:07.540 efforts. They dox and follow ICE vehicles at 847 a.m. Central Time. User Alvin Q responds to

01:21:15.740 Salacious B. Crum that he will, quote, update on the location of a suspected ICE vehicle that's about

01:21:21.100 eight blocks away from where the shooting would occur 15 minutes later. The name Alvin Q matches

01:21:25.620 the alias Alvin Q. Preddy, which from breach data Alex Preddy used for a Twitter account he appears to

01:21:32.860 have created in 2016. The signal user also has a medic emoji. The name Alvin Q matches the alias

01:21:40.880 Alvin Q. Preddy. And then in the minutes leading up to the shooting, Salacious B. Crum directs other

01:21:46.980 users to go to the location where the shooting would occur. Multiple agents now entering glam doll

01:21:51.800 donuts, backup needed. One activist inside of the donut shop shares a video of the shop owners locking ICE

01:21:58.720 out. One of the offers featured in the video wearing a gray coat appears to have been involved

01:22:03.240 in the attempted arrest of Preddy. At 9.02 a.m., the signal chat first makes mention of possible

01:22:08.320 shots fired. The user Alvin Q does not reappear in the chat. They say, to be clear, we're not asserting

01:22:16.320 that Preddy is confirmed to be Alvin Q, but we analyze data in real time and are releasing our analysis

01:22:21.320 because of the value to the public and having all info available. This looks like proof that indeed

01:22:30.340 Alvin Preddy was part of an anti-ICE agitation group that was stalking the officers, harassing the

01:22:36.820 officers, finding out exactly where they were, part of this group that tried to impede their ability to

01:22:41.580 make lawful arrests. And again, somebody whose gamble that he could get away with all of that

01:22:49.380 did not pan out for him. They're also doing this. This organization, if you're looking at some of

01:22:56.720 these leaked messages, as you just showed on the screen, they're doing this without knowing the

01:23:00.940 backgrounds of the suspects or the people who ICE is looking to ascertain or to apprehend, I'm sorry,

01:23:07.480 is the correct word. So they don't know if they're protecting a sex offender. They don't know if

01:23:13.200 they're protecting somebody who could potentially be violent, somebody who does not belong on the

01:23:20.080 streets of Minneapolis. And also, it's just a very dangerous situation for everybody involved. I know

01:23:26.380 you've talked a lot about the whistles, but the whistles and the honking, I'm not weighing in on

01:23:32.300 the legality of that, but just saying that these activists are putting their own people in jeopardy

01:23:37.640 when officers can't hear each other and they're armed. And some of the protesters are armed, which

01:23:43.840 I think is fine. But that said, when the officers can't hear and communicate with each other clearly,

01:23:49.140 and there's a deliberate chaos that's created in order to prevent them from going into glam doll

01:23:54.320 donuts and apprehending someone who you don't know whether or not they are someone you'd want in

01:24:00.080 your own community, then it's just really, really dangerous all around. Dangerous for the people who

01:24:05.580 are doing it too, who probably would hate both of us, Megan, but I don't want them to be in these

01:24:11.300 unnecessarily unsafe situations either. The mania that all this is causing is something I don't know

01:24:21.220 how these people bounce back from like the true craziness that it's causing amongst a pocket of

01:24:26.200 the left that's, you know, calling Stephen Miller, Himmler, that crowd. They're represented across

01:24:31.800 America. And as Jesse Kelly had accurately predicted many times, it seems like some 30% of them at least

01:24:37.700 are nurses, which is really deeply disturbing. So we have an update first for you on a nurse at VCU

01:24:43.900 down in Virginia and Richmond yesterday, who said the following, which was true insanity in SOT 13.

01:24:51.960 Sabotage tactic, or at least scare tactic. All the medical providers, grab some syringes with needles 0.61

01:25:02.440 on the end. Have them full of saline or succinylcholine, you know, whatever, whatever. That will probably be a

01:25:10.260 deterrent. For today's resistance tip, I vote. Anybody got any poison ivy, poison oak in their yard? Get some of that

01:25:20.600 up with gloves, obviously. Get it in some water. Get some, get the poison ivy oak water. And I'm going to put it

01:25:28.500 into a water gun. Aim for, aim for faces, hands. All right, the single ladies where these ice guys are going, get on 1.00

01:25:38.560 Tinder, get on Hinge, find these guys. They're around. They're an ice agent, bring some X-Lax and put it in their

01:25:45.000 drinks. Get them sick. You know, nobody's going to die. Just enough to incapacitate them and get them off the street

01:25:53.200 for the next day. Let's make their lives fucking miserable. 1.00

01:25:59.620 You're a sick person. Sick person, Melinda Cook. When we left air yesterday, Emily VCU said that she was placed on leave 1.00

01:26:08.040 while they investigated. We said, what is there to investigate? She's on camera. It's very clear that

01:26:14.960 she's ready to hurt ICE agents despite her obligation to heal people and not hurt them, that she actually 0.90

01:26:23.140 is talking about using drugs you get in the hospital like suction choline and misusing them in order to

01:26:29.080 hurt ICE and Border Patrol. I mean, this is a fucking sick person. And sure enough, before the day was 1.00

01:26:34.020 closed, there was a statement issued by VCU Health. Following an investigation, the individual involved

01:26:39.660 in the social media videos is no longer employed by VCU Health. In addition, VCU Health has fulfilled

01:26:46.600 its reporting requirements under Virginia state law, which I believe means that they went to the

01:26:53.800 licensing board to alert them. Libs of TikTok, which broke the story, asked, Shia Rejcik asked accurately

01:27:00.560 underneath their post, thank you. Are you doing a review of all of her cases and deaths that occurred

01:27:06.880 under her care? Which is a chilling but important question I hadn't even considered for these crazy

01:27:14.560 ass nurses. It's a great question. I really hope that they answer it and that the answer is yes. 0.99

01:27:20.980 Secondly, there was this nurse. She's out of Florida. Her name is Lexi Lawler. And she had the 0.85

01:27:28.340 following, it's disgusting, forgive me, but there's its news, following wish for the now pregnant with

01:27:34.700 her second child, Caroline Levitt in SOT 12. As a labor and delivery nurse, it gives me great joy to

01:27:42.140 wish Caroline Levitt a fourth degree tear. I hope that you fucking rip from, bow to stern and never 1.00

01:27:49.640 shit normally again, you cunt. All right, so this is a very sick person as well. She's also a nurse, 1.00

01:27:58.860 and she's been fired, which is great. And today the attorney general in Florida just announced that

01:28:06.400 she is no longer allowed to practice nursing in the state of Florida. Making statements, he writes,

01:28:11.700 that wish pain and suffering on anyone. When those statements are directly related to one's practice

01:28:15.540 is an ethical red line we should not cross. I'm proud of the Florida Surgeon General for taking this

01:28:20.860 decisive action. I'm sorry, but this had to be done. It had to be done, Emily, because how can any

01:28:28.760 Republican or right-leaning person go into a facility and encounter a Lexi Lawler or a Melinda Cook

01:28:36.120 who are actively talking about hurting people on the right or wishing devastating pain and injury on them

01:28:45.680 and feel comfortable in their care?

01:28:47.600 Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things that reminds me of the classic cancel culture 1.00

01:28:52.320 line of, well, you want this professor to be censored or whatever. It's like, well,

01:28:57.320 no, I don't want professors to be censored, but if they're saying that kids who supported Trump

01:29:01.480 should have consequences or be hurt in one way or whatever, you're creating a bad classroom

01:29:07.040 environment, so you should be able to say whatever you want as long as it's not

01:29:10.320 actually causing harm to your students. I'm not talking about psychological harm,

01:29:15.740 but I'm talking about potentials for incitement and all of that type of thing.

01:29:17.780 No, they don't work at the library checking out books.

01:29:20.180 No. No, they're nurses. And it just reminds me of the conversation that you had with Jesse Kelly,

01:29:25.080 what was it, last week or the week before, where he caught me off guard because he's usually so

01:29:29.460 hostile and aggressive. And he said, you know, I genuinely feel bad for a lot of these women

01:29:35.140 because if you think of why people go into nursing, I mean, it's a great career,

01:29:39.280 but for so many women, it's because they have this instinct to nurture and care for others. 1.00

01:29:44.180 And I think when you're putting this stuff out on social media, it just reflects a very,

01:29:49.300 very deep instability. And they're probably, you combine those two things. I mean, they,

01:29:54.720 in their own heads have been created, they've been turned delusional by a reckless media establishment,

01:30:01.640 and they think that they are genuinely helping and it's sick. There's no excuse for it. And it's why

01:30:08.280 there needs to be consequences because you can't trust somebody to nurture when they're crazy enough,

01:30:14.500 not just to think this, but then to broadcast it publicly on social media. This is a wild thing to

01:30:21.000 do if your job is healing and helping and nurturing. And it does just make me feel like a pang of empathy

01:30:29.240 for people who are in these situations, because that is an absolutely crazy thing to think.

01:30:34.040 Let's see. I mean, like, let's see if Lexi, who's now lost her license to practice in Florida, 0.98

01:30:40.260 has had a change of heart, has come to see the error of her ways. We're going to check back in.

01:30:45.600 SOT 11.

01:30:46.040 So they just murdered a man in Minnesota. They murdered a man in Minnesota and you

01:30:52.220 motherfuckers are coming after me because I use bad language. Fuck you. I'm on the right side of 1.00

01:30:58.840 this. Fuck you. Enjoy your time with your plants. Have a good time. Those will be your new constituents 1.00

01:31:07.180 since you will no longer have access to patients. And I don't know where she will have access. I mean,

01:31:12.580 truly who would hire this person? Even a far left city is going to have to see that this woman is 1.00

01:31:17.980 disturbed. Like they're going to see these videos and they're going to see that this is a psychopath 0.94

01:31:22.640 who shouldn't be anywhere near their facility. Because while it seems like nursing does have 0.52

01:31:27.900 an unusually high proportion of nutcases in it right now, there are still normal nurses out there, 1.00

01:31:33.280 thank God, who will take care of anybody with loving care. Now, much like the American Academy

01:31:40.700 of Pediatrics and most of these medical organizations have been completely captured by

01:31:45.560 the left. The American Nurses Association is among them. They put out a statement about Alex

01:31:51.960 Preddy because he was a registered nurse. He was killed in a horrifying, horrifying shooting at the

01:31:56.840 hands of federal law enforcement. We ask all nurses to visit this website, send a letter to your members

01:32:01.240 of Congress, let them know that nurses demand immediate action. And there's this long statement

01:32:05.980 ripping on ice and border protection and so on. I went just to just to see what did the American

01:32:12.440 Nurses Association have to say about Laken Riley, who was a nursing student who was killed by an

01:32:20.280 illegal, which made national news. It was a much bigger story than Alex Preddy. Nothing, not one word

01:32:28.260 for her. What did they say about Melinda Cook or Lexi Lawler? Two nurses who are saying really

01:32:34.340 incendiary things and threatening to hurt patients in one case because of this. Not a word, nothing,

01:32:41.420 Emily. And all these organizations completely undermine the faith that regular American citizens,

01:32:46.480 or at least those of us who are on the right who could get hurt by these loons, have in what should

01:32:50.340 be a vaunted profession, should be a profession we hold up on a pedestal because what do they do?

01:32:56.160 They take care of us in our most vulnerable moments. But no, because of these people and because

01:33:00.480 of groups like this who won't condemn them, we lose faith.

01:33:05.560 I was watching the CBS Evening News with Tony DeCoppo, of course, a couple of nights ago,

01:33:10.580 and they were showing what was. Yes, Topra. That's right. And they were talking about the

01:33:15.700 Pratty situation and the federal officers on the ground. They were showing footage and all of that.

01:33:20.820 But what they didn't show was the scenes of chaos that were happening from the agitators and the

01:33:28.200 disruptors and the rioters throughout Minneapolis. And so, again, this is a network that is pledging to

01:33:34.160 better and actually, you know, give a fair shake to both sides. And that is, I get that, you know,

01:33:40.660 the centrists who live in Manhattan are not immigration hawks. I understand that this tugs at

01:33:46.620 their heartstrings. I get it. But if you are even trying to give a fair shake and your broadcast is

01:33:53.120 just showing ice without showing what's precipitating the response from ice, meaning the chaos and the

01:34:00.800 rioting and all of that, you are creating more of these women because they're completely missing 1.00

01:34:08.220 the other side of the story. They completely missed it during the Biden administration. And it's very,

01:34:13.160 very dangerous. And even people who think they're doing better are getting it wrong this time around.

01:34:19.900 And that doesn't mean that everyone has to accept everything that happens that Trump does or

01:34:24.780 whatever. But what it does mean is that there's another side to this. And by the way, what about

01:34:30.380 all of the ICE officers who have been in danger? They arrested someone for threatening Tricia McLaughlin

01:34:35.360 not that long ago. Like this is there have been very serious threats and you barely hear about them

01:34:41.000 in the corporate press. But that is an important part of the story as to why things have gotten where

01:34:46.020 they are. That's the new reinvented CBS. Same as the old uninvented CBS and ABC. Yesterday we ran the

01:34:56.240 soundbite of Whoopi Goldberg out there saying he just had his phone in a water bottle. That's it. He

01:35:01.020 was just shot 10 times. He all he did was have a phone in a water bottle. OK, so he injected himself

01:35:06.560 into a federal law enforcement operation. He then resisted arrest. He placed hands on the operator.

01:35:11.160 And yes, he was carrying. There's nothing wrong with carrying. But it would amp up the fears of

01:35:15.840 a law enforcement officer when you're now in a confrontation with him, which Alex Preddy knew

01:35:20.820 full well. The lies. NPR after Renee Good. We ran the soundbite on the show. They didn't talk at all

01:35:28.200 about her agitation or the blocking of traffic or the fact that she almost ran over that guy and

01:35:33.320 actually did hit him. They went to her Pinterest page and were going over the recipes that were

01:35:38.480 posted on it. I mean, it's it's propaganda. It's truly like deranged, dangerous propaganda. I like

01:35:46.000 I can't. All right. I want to switch gears because, well, you mentioned Topra. I'll spend one minute on

01:35:50.540 him. Topra in in true Topra style decided to do the following on CBS evening news. It's supposed to

01:36:00.480 be the most full of gravitas broadcast in any network's daytime lineup. Here it is.

01:36:06.860 SOT 22. If your family is anything like mine with kids and working parents, it's often the 0.66

01:36:12.520 grandparents, in our case, grandmas like my mom, Gail, who keep everything from falling apart. 0.90

01:36:18.400 But does chasing around toddlers or teenagers take a toll on the grandparents themselves? Well, a new

01:36:24.540 study of grandparents finds that quite the opposite. Grandparents who take care of grandkids

01:36:29.440 actually score better on tests of memory and language and decline more slowly than grandparents

01:36:35.420 who do not. I called my own mom for reaction. So, mom, are you surprised by that finding?

01:36:42.700 No, not at all. I find that they give me like a sense of purpose. They energize me more than

01:36:52.140 drive me down. Something magical happens when a parent becomes a grandparent. And to think,

01:36:58.440 the next time I call my mom for help with the kids, I can use the line she used on me as

01:37:03.080 a kid. It's for your own good, mom. I love you.

01:37:08.280 Okay. I'm, I'm humiliated by him. I, I can't, this is what, this is literally shit that Oprah

01:37:15.360 would do. Like, this is fine. If you want, if you're on cable news in the middle of the 0.99

01:37:19.320 day, you're on broadcast news in the morning, you want to do the soft, you know, I can relate. 0.97

01:37:24.060 This is fucking evening news on CBS where you need to be able to be taken seriously on matters 0.97

01:37:31.260 like Syria and Ukraine and nukes and Russia. And no one gives a shit about your mommy. 1.00

01:37:39.000 They're desperate to try to humanize him without realizing that what the evening news anchor needs 0.99

01:37:44.580 is credibility and gravitas. Neither of which topra doka pool has at all. They don't need to

01:37:53.580 work on feminizing this guy. Trust me. He's got that. They need to work in a different lane, 1.00

01:37:59.820 but they're too stupid over at CBS because they have somebody running the organization who doesn't 1.00

01:38:05.940 know shit about broadcasting. I'm sorry. She's never worked in television. So they are applying 1.00

01:38:13.020 the wrong cure to the problem. I am obsessed with the CBS evening news right now because it's become

01:38:19.880 a Saturday night live sketch in real time of like depicting, like the sketch would basically be

01:38:25.120 somebody who thinks that they can do a better job. Then the old guard comes in and starts, you know,

01:38:30.260 messing with the formula and gets it completely wrong. That's kind of what you see happening.

01:38:34.400 Like the other night they did a softer story on like a robotic hand. And it was incredibly funny

01:38:40.640 because it was just like, this is what the average American will find very entertaining.

01:38:45.500 We have a robotic hand here. It'll be lots of fun. It'll get the remote from between the couch

01:38:50.520 cushions. Yeah. And the other thing that's funny to me about de Coppola being humanized

01:38:54.460 is that it implies he's seen as superhuman in some way, like Walter Cronkite was. And it's like,

01:39:00.260 dude, nobody cares. Nobody cares, man. Like we believe you are human. Trust us. We saw you reading

01:39:07.540 prompter on the first night. Exactly. We know. And you don't have to prove to us that you love

01:39:12.980 your mommy. I mean, honestly, this is such a naked grab of attention. Like, please, I love my mom. So

01:39:19.000 please, please love me again. If he wanted to do this in his role as the CBS morning guy, fine.

01:39:24.340 Actually, that's the kind of weird shit they do in morning television and daytime television, 0.97

01:39:27.620 but this is evening news. This is so inappropriate and it will not work. Here's another one. It's all about 0.98

01:39:33.700 Topra. It's just in case you thought you're watching the news to get the news. You're not.

01:39:37.520 It's all about him. Stop 21. That is another day in America. The end of our second week

01:39:43.080 live from America. What a privilege it's been to hear directly from so many of you to hear

01:39:47.200 what matters in your life as we reported on the ground on immigration, opioids, inequality,

01:39:52.120 and so much more. And we put some of your big questions in front of this country's biggest leaders,

01:39:56.840 mayors, governors, senators, even the president of the United States himself.

01:40:00.860 Look for us again next month out somewhere in the country and Monday from New York.

01:40:06.540 But good night for now. I'm going to talk to these steelworkers. You want to trade jobs? 0.96

01:40:11.260 This one's not as easy as it looks. I've been learning that. Thanks for the hospitality,

01:40:17.500 guys. I really appreciate it, man. Thank you. This is all wonderful. I'm going to pick out

01:40:20.620 my new refrigerator here. Which one's good?

01:40:22.960 Oh, my God. He actually told steelworkers that his multimillion dollar gig was not,

01:40:33.640 quote, as easy as it looks and spent the last bit of his broadcast. You only get 22 minutes

01:40:39.360 talking about what he had done his first two weeks, who he had talked to and how hard it is,

01:40:46.420 how hard. He's got a team of wardrobe people, hair people, makeup people, producers everywhere who do

01:40:52.860 all the work at the network, especially CBS, not him. And honestly, there were many snafus. He

01:40:57.600 embarrassed himself repeatedly. He put out the crying video. He made a fool of himself. And then

01:41:02.100 he wants like empathy from the audience that it's a really tough job and makes a joke to actual tough

01:41:08.900 guys, steelworkers, about how this job is not as easy as it looked like. I'm sorry, but he's making

01:41:13.420 a fool of himself. And on air, he didn't even say it privately. Not only did he think it, but he said 0.96

01:41:20.260 it on air, which is a next level Tony DeColpo move. That has got to be one of my all time favorite

01:41:26.540 DeColpo-isms. And, you know, they're already already just a few weeks into this. Apparently,

01:41:31.200 the reporting is that they think they can do idea type scoops. And so that's why you're seeing them

01:41:36.260 start to try to handhold the audience more and more as to like what the big picture story is,

01:41:40.440 what this all means. And he does that constantly, even though nobody cares. They're trying to have

01:41:44.780 it both ways to please the linear audience while also pleasing the online audience and going viral,

01:41:50.760 which again, it's really I don't I don't know how you could possibly do that, let alone with Ron

01:41:56.100 Burgundy, Tony DeColpo. I know not to mention Barry trying to run a television network by telling them

01:42:03.080 we've got to find the wave and ride it. OK, I'm sure they found that super inspirational.

01:42:09.660 And directional in terms of where you're going next. Good luck. All right, Emily Jashinsky,

01:42:15.680 a pleasure. As always, we'll see you next on the MK Wrap Up Show, which starts right after this and

01:42:19.640 then on After Party Tonight. Go to YouTube and type in After Party with Emily and you will find

01:42:24.640 the show this evening. Watch it live at 10 p.m. We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks for listening to

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The Megyn Kelly Show - January 28, 2026

Leftists Melt Down Over Stephen Miller, Katy Perry's Hypocrisy, and Toprah Interviews Mom, with Emily Jashinsky ｜ Ep. 1240

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