The Megyn Kelly Show - Leftists Spin False ICE Shooting Narrative, Grown Men Crying, and Conan O'Brien Slams Political Comics, with Jesse Kelly and Link Lauren

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00:01:00.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.360 Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.460 Oh, my God. There's so much happening.

00:01:17.840 These leftists have lost their ever-loving minds.

00:01:20.560 They're woke.

00:01:22.140 They're giving pronouns.

00:01:24.080 They're talking about how this cop should have discerned that the tires were turned a certain way,

00:01:30.980 and therefore the car wasn't going to actually run over him, even though it had hit him in Minneapolis.

00:01:36.880 I mean, truly, it's insane, and it's spreading, and we have so many examples of leftist madness now in response to ICE and in Portland Customs and Border Patrol.

00:01:49.860 All we can do is flood the field, in my view, with more officers and really make clear to these people that they have no right to interfere with federal law enforcement trying to clean out their neighborhoods of murderers and child molesters.

00:02:06.980 Thank God we have this administration in power right now, Trump has been openly on the side of the officer under fire in Minneapolis, and J.D. Vance, like underdog, comes out to just boom, boom, boom, take on the media at the White House press briefing room,

00:02:28.380 and it was a breath of fresh air and a thing of beauty.

00:02:32.860 Now, of course, you're getting the, he's even worse than Trump from the dispatch people like Tim Miller.

00:02:40.480 He's worse.

00:02:41.280 He's horrible.

00:02:42.660 They're getting ready because they've seen the poll showing that J.D. Vance is, I think, at 53% right now amongst Republicans on who's most likely to be the Republican nominee in 28.

00:02:52.160 No one's even close.

00:02:53.560 So, of course, it's never too early to lay the seeds of he's even worse.

00:02:57.060 He's more of a fascist.

00:02:58.760 He's Hitler on steroids.

00:03:01.660 And then we will get to a shocking, disgusting video out of California involving a man pretending to be a woman in a woman's bathroom jerking off.

00:03:18.780 You can see it in the shadow down below that this wonderful woman decided she would record to prove what was going on in there.

00:03:30.600 And then the confrontation happens afterward with the gym employees, the young woman who recorded it, the tranny in the stall, and the woman's boyfriend who is a hero.

00:03:42.940 Um, I'm sorry, but this is what we've been saying would happen all along.

00:03:49.800 They're not in there because they're gender confused.

00:03:54.320 They're in there acting out a sexual fantasy, which comes from their autogynephilia, where they get off in dressing like women and then parading around in front of women, which is exactly what Leah Thomas was in my well-informed opinion.

00:04:11.320 And the women are supposed to be a part of their sexual fantasies.

00:04:16.480 The video is infuriating.

00:04:19.160 It is R-rated.

00:04:20.600 We're only going—you don't actually see a body part, but you see the shadow.

00:04:24.680 Um, we will show you an appropriate amount so you can make up your own mind and then move on from the video, but we'll show you the confrontation after, uh, in just a bit.

00:04:32.840 There's a lot to get to.

00:04:33.720 Um, in just a bit, we will be joined by spot-on host, Link Lauren, but we're going to start today with fire, Jesse Kelly.

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00:05:55.480 Jesse, so good to have you here.

00:05:58.860 You, of all people, need to be here today.

00:06:02.580 The leftist madness is a bit much.

00:06:05.360 There's so many places I could start, but here's—I'm going to start on this video, which I found so infuriating.

00:06:12.920 Deb, did you say this is from Portland, this one, the top with the side 11?

00:06:15.900 It's from Oregon.

00:06:18.160 We don't know if it's Portland, but obviously there's chaos in Portland from these anti-ICE protesters.

00:06:23.540 This is a video for the listening audience of a leftist woman in her SUV trying to box in an ICE agent who's trying to pull out of his parking spot to go chase bad guys.

00:06:34.660 And she and her band of leftists make it as difficult as they humanly possibly can for this guy to go do his job, and she narrates it.

00:06:43.480 Watch this, side 11.

00:06:50.680 I see her blocking him in.

00:06:53.880 We can play.

00:06:54.760 My car's bigger than yours.

00:06:57.680 We can play.

00:06:58.660 We can play.

00:06:58.680 We can play.

00:07:04.660 I don't know if you want to go do it.

00:07:09.640 ICE!

00:07:10.400 It's ICE!

00:07:11.280 Please help me record.

00:07:12.600 Get behind them if you have a car.

00:07:14.780 If you have a car, please pull behind them.

00:07:16.900 It's ICE.

00:07:19.260 Can you pull behind them?

00:07:21.080 It's ICE.

00:07:21.600 They're trying to kidnap people.

00:07:23.180 Please pull behind them.

00:07:25.360 Please pull behind them and park.

00:07:27.460 Please.

00:07:31.180 And somebody does it.

00:07:32.780 Please park behind them.

00:07:34.180 Can you put your car behind them, please?

00:07:36.180 It's ICE.

00:07:40.240 Put your car there.

00:07:41.340 They're going to move.

00:07:42.160 Hurry, please.

00:07:44.260 Hurry.

00:07:45.240 Park your car sideways, please.

00:07:47.880 The ICE agent's trying to get out.

00:07:49.000 He's backing up, doing little three-point turns.

00:07:51.000 Hurry.

00:07:51.420 Trying to curve out of this.

00:07:53.760 He gets out.

00:07:56.140 But gets blocked again.

00:07:58.500 She speeds up behind him to block the rear of his truck.

00:08:03.820 Dumb bitches.

00:08:04.960 You're not going anywhere.

00:08:06.660 We have them blocked in, but we need more cars.

00:08:12.920 Look at these losers.

00:08:16.960 Two, three.

00:08:19.940 Two of them in the car.

00:08:21.020 Unfortunately, we don't get to see the end of it, Jesse, which I seriously hope involves

00:08:27.500 some pepper spray and some handcuffs.

00:08:30.100 But this is what they're doing to our ICE agents who have families who are out there

00:08:35.400 literally arresting child molesters and taking them off the streets.

00:08:39.660 And this woman's calling them dumb bitches and mocking them and taunting them and encouraging

00:08:45.300 her fellow leftists to prevent them from arresting the bad guys in her community.

00:08:48.880 What do you make of what's happening right now?

00:08:50.480 There's just so much to get into, Megan, when it comes to all this.

00:08:55.940 First, we have to set something aside.

00:08:58.100 And I hate to even do that because you and I could sit and riff on this for hours.

00:09:01.300 And I know it's something to talk about.

00:09:02.900 Let's set aside the paid and organized portion of this.

00:09:07.220 We do have to understand what a large percentage of communist street activism in this country

00:09:12.540 is paid for and organized.

00:09:14.780 It's not organic.

00:09:15.880 It's not always, you know, some just naive soccer mom coming out who watches too much

00:09:21.620 television.

00:09:22.640 So many of these people, at least the ringleaders, are paid and organized.

00:09:25.820 They organize these acts of resistance online.

00:09:29.480 Billionaires, foreign and domestic, pay for these things.

00:09:32.740 That's why they show up with freshly printed signs right away.

00:09:35.860 So we have to kind of set that part aside.

00:09:38.360 Let's deal with the people who are actually genuine.

00:09:41.280 And maybe that walking ad for antidepressants is genuine.

00:09:45.440 Let's just assume for a moment she is.

00:09:47.520 I actually, and people are going to find this funny because I'm known to be such a jerk.

00:09:51.360 I actually feel a lot of sympathy for her.

00:09:53.460 And I feel sympathy for that 37-year-old street animal who just got killed by ice.

00:09:59.000 And of course, her wife and everything.

00:10:01.300 And the reason I feel sympathy is because so many of these people are just simply stupid.

00:10:05.860 Or they're drug addicted.

00:10:07.100 Or come from broken homes.

00:10:09.780 Broken people generally is what you will find in these street protests.

00:10:14.900 You don't find happy, well-to-do people from solid families, good two-parent homes.

00:10:20.820 You know, go to church on Sunday.

00:10:23.020 You don't generally find those kinds of people.

00:10:25.960 If you sift through the rubble that is a communist street animal protest, it's the dregs of society every time.

00:10:33.480 It's every scumbag and criminal and nut job you can find.

00:10:36.960 And I actually find what Democrats in the media do to these people, to their minds, I find it to be extremely, extremely evil, on par with picking on the special needs kid in high school.

00:10:50.340 Everyone had some evil scumbag in their school who would do something like that.

00:10:53.980 I'm not even trying to be funny.

00:10:55.020 Everybody knows there was one kid who was so cruel he would do it and he would think it was funny.

00:10:59.660 That's what Democrats do to their base all the time with the relentless loop of lies you see on CNN and everything else.

00:11:07.080 Nazi Gestapo, Nazi Gestapo.

00:11:08.960 But then you see that stuff, Megan.

00:11:10.580 Everybody watching, listening right now sees that stuff, hears that stuff.

00:11:13.200 They roll their eyes, but to somebody who's broken and drug addicted and lost, they hear these things and they believe them and they get themselves spun up to the point that you'll drop your kid off at daycare and then go out and try to run over an ICE agent and, oh, now I'm dead and I won't ever see the age of 38.

00:11:30.920 I find it to be incredibly sad and I find it to be incredibly evil.

00:11:34.940 The Democrat Party is the party of evil in this country.

00:11:37.820 As much as I despise Republicans most of the time, they really are the party of Satan, the Democrats are.

00:11:42.980 It drives me insane.

00:11:44.540 Gosh, you're not wrong.

00:11:45.800 I saw somebody saying the other day about the woman, the 37-year-old woman, Renee, who tried to run over that cop, obviously, that she might actually not have known that ICE is arresting murderers and child molesters.

00:11:59.640 She genuinely might not have known that.

00:12:01.960 She might have thought that they were there as some sort of militia meant to just arrest American citizens and deport them.

00:12:08.340 Because if you get your news from NPR, for example, or MS Now, that's probably how you'd walk away looking at this.

00:12:17.260 I mean, just today there's an example of the New York Times headline and the Washington Post headline on this case of this woman being shot to death, this 37-year-old.

00:12:26.020 And it paints it all in the most sympathetic, misleading way.

00:12:32.280 It's completely misleading and a lie where they try to suggest that this is just this, you know, sweet lady.

00:12:38.920 Here it is.

00:12:39.560 New York Times by Kenneth Vogel.

00:12:42.640 A New York Times analysis of footage from three camera angles shows that the motorist was driving away from, not toward, a federal officer when he opened fire.

00:12:53.760 And then the Washington Post headline, ICE agent was not in the vehicle's path when he fired at driver video shows.

00:13:04.400 Oh, well, shockingly, my eyes show something very different, Jesse.

00:13:09.320 But if you are one of these leftists who relies on WAPO or New York Times for your news, you have a very different impression of what went down that day.

00:13:17.140 That's what's so frustrating about what you just said, what we just talked about, Megan, is think about the Democrat in your life.

00:13:25.640 Everybody watching and listening has a Democrat somewhere in their life.

00:13:28.220 I always refer to them as a liberal Aunt Peggy, but who knows?

00:13:30.800 It may be your brother or maybe who knows.

00:13:32.860 And think about this.

00:13:33.780 Think about this.

00:13:34.120 I have an Aunt Peggy, but she's not that liberal.

00:13:37.380 Sorry, Peggy.

00:13:38.460 But think about this.

00:13:39.800 Just ask or at least think about the Democrat in your life and think if they believe that Donald Trump, just as an example, called Nazis at Charlottesville very fine people.

00:13:50.080 Think about that.

00:13:50.660 Think about the Democrat in your life and think if they believe that Donald Trump told people to inject themselves with bleach.

00:13:56.980 Now, the reason I brought up those two things is both of those things are available on video, what he actually said.

00:14:02.540 The Democrat line, the communist line, is an outright lie.

00:14:06.020 And it's not like you have to take Megan's opinion on it or my opinion on it.

00:14:09.320 You can pick up your phone.

00:14:10.420 Everyone's holding one right now.

00:14:11.640 You might be listening to this show on your phone.

00:14:13.500 And you can watch what he actually said.

00:14:16.040 Easily verifiable on video.

00:14:18.280 And yet the vast majority of Democrats in this country, because they live in a world of make-believe that is constructed for them by the communist elites in this country,

00:14:28.520 they believe something that is an outright verifiable lie, not subject to opinion whatsoever.

00:14:34.960 We are dealing with people who are, by all accounts, insane.

00:14:40.400 And I'm not saying that to just be insulting, although I'm totally fine to insult these animals.

00:14:44.960 I'm saying that because we have to understand what we're dealing with.

00:14:48.060 If I covered myself with peanut butter.

00:14:50.340 Yeah, you can't.

00:14:51.140 If I got naked and covered myself with peanut butter and attached wings to my back and went up to the ceiling of this roof here and tried to jump off, you would call me crazy.

00:15:02.760 Because I believe I can fly and I cannot fly.

00:15:06.140 It's verifiable I can't fly.

00:15:07.820 But I believe all the way I can fly.

00:15:09.480 You would look at me and you would say, this person is insane.

00:15:12.720 He probably can't be reasoned with.

00:15:14.500 He needs professional help.

00:15:15.920 I need to keep my distance, whatever.

00:15:18.020 But you would not say, I just need to have a conversation with him.

00:15:21.540 Well, that has become our political discourse in this country because the people on the left reside in a world of complete lies that is reinforced day after day after day by Democrats and the communists in the media.

00:15:35.080 And we're at a place where just normal people, you don't have to be some hardcore right winger like me.

00:15:39.700 Normal people are frustrated because you talk to these people and it's like you're talking to a rabbit wolverine or something like that.

00:15:46.120 They don't even, they're not even human beings anymore and their eyes are bugged out.

00:15:50.120 I don't know how we deal with it, Megan, but we have to understand that's what we're dealing with.

00:15:54.320 I was just telling the audience, I think yesterday or the day before, that my therapist, God love him, he always says, stay away from crazy, which is a very funny line from a therapist.

00:16:02.880 But it's true, stay away from crazy.

00:16:05.540 And like the problem for these ICE officers is they have no choice but to get right up in the face of crazy.

00:16:12.960 You know, these officers didn't want to have to deal with this woman who ran over, they tried to, this officer, and did hit him, notwithstanding what you read in the Washington Post and the New York Times.

00:16:22.760 They didn't want to deal with her, but she came into this area.

00:16:26.240 She parked her car perpendicular to the oncoming traffic of the road.

00:16:33.840 And then it is their job to remove her so that others are safe and so that they can do their job, which is to pass.

00:16:39.600 That's how this confrontation unfolded.

00:16:41.900 And while others kept telling us that that's not true, she was just there as a legal observer, which is a lie.

00:16:47.580 She's a freaking, she was a wannabe poet.

00:16:49.780 And I'm sorry, but not a good one.

00:16:51.120 Um, she was no legal observer.

00:16:54.340 She was there as a paid agitator or not paid.

00:16:58.800 She might've been paid for all I know, but she was there as an agitator to be the lead.

00:17:03.840 We were told by an eyewitness in antagonizing ICE.

00:17:06.700 And now we know that because on CNN last night, they dropped a video of the preceding moments before the tape that we've all now seen where she accelerates into the officer and he shoots her.

00:17:17.760 Now we've seen what she did in the moments before.

00:17:20.140 First, I'm going to, I'm going to describe, I'm going to let you hear how Anderson Cooper describes it.

00:17:24.540 And it's truly like, gee, who knows?

00:17:26.660 Who knows what we're seeing?

00:17:27.540 No, we know exactly what we're seeing because we can see it with our eyes.

00:17:29.980 And we all have seen now the eyewitness accounts that she was parked perpendicular to oncoming traffic, Anderson.

00:17:35.800 This is the video proof of it unfolding before your eyes.

00:17:38.840 Just tell the audience the truth.

00:17:40.740 Here he is.

00:17:43.080 CNN has obtained some new video.

00:17:44.920 Again, it's grainy and distant, but it shows four full minutes leading up to the shooting.

00:17:50.140 It shows Renee Good's maroon Honda pilot entering from the right there.

00:17:55.300 Then 20 seconds later, someone gets out on the passenger side.

00:17:59.020 We don't know who or why this person leaves the car.

00:18:01.900 We then see her turn and pull perpendicular across the street, seeming to block the way.

00:18:08.600 But as you see here, leaving room for vehicles to pass by her on either side.

00:18:14.760 Finally, there is this new angle of the federal officer who shot her.

00:18:18.340 He arrives.

00:18:19.200 Another federal SUV pulls up.

00:18:21.800 As the ICE officer briefly goes back to his car, then he returns.

00:18:25.640 And with another agent grabbing at her door, she starts to move forward.

00:18:29.320 Again, it's hard to see.

00:18:30.680 That may reveal.

00:18:31.440 Well, it says nothing about why Renee Good was where she was or what she was doing there.

00:18:37.520 What?

00:18:38.680 It says nothing.

00:18:41.700 Isn't it so brilliant what they do, though, Megan?

00:18:44.380 Because when it's all on video, like these scumbag liars like Anderson Cooper, it's brilliant,

00:18:50.360 isn't it?

00:18:50.600 Because it's all on video.

00:18:51.720 And even your liberal Aunt Peggy, as she's done sniffing her antidepressants, even she

00:18:57.680 can watch video, right?

00:18:59.140 So he can't come out and say she wasn't there.

00:19:02.580 He can't come out and say she was just cruising along and ICE pulled up beside her and gunned

00:19:07.320 her down.

00:19:08.040 That doesn't work, right?

00:19:09.280 So what do you have to do if you're in the media?

00:19:11.320 If you're a communist and you're trying to protect the narrative at all times, protect

00:19:14.540 the revolution, you just have to give people a little bit of an off ramp.

00:19:17.860 So instead of coming on the news and saying exactly what she was doing, of course, well,

00:19:22.540 I mean, we're really not sure.

00:19:23.920 We don't know who's getting out.

00:19:25.460 But she might have been trying to parallel park.

00:19:27.380 She is a woman, after all.

00:19:29.140 They have to act completely lost.

00:19:31.520 Of course, if this was you, if this was me, if this was anybody else listening who's a

00:19:36.320 normal human being, they would have all the facts.

00:19:38.980 They'd be crucifying you for every hour on the hour on CNN.

00:19:42.920 They would drill down on everything.

00:19:44.500 But of course, because it's an apparatchik who got caught doing horrible things like

00:19:48.880 they always do.

00:19:49.860 It always said, well, I mean, we're confused.

00:19:51.560 The facts are still coming in.

00:19:53.040 I've been the video was grainy.

00:19:55.320 We don't that.

00:19:55.840 That's exactly what they do.

00:19:56.960 It's really it's evil.

00:19:58.100 And it could know.

00:19:58.920 To be honest with you, there's no way there.

00:20:01.220 It says nothing about Renee Good where she was or what she planned to do, except for the

00:20:06.380 fact that she was perpendicular to oncoming traffic.

00:20:08.660 But he points out cars could go around the front of the back.

00:20:11.620 I guess she needed a bigger truck is what Anderson is pointing like her SUV wasn't quite

00:20:16.100 big enough to to block both lanes of oncoming traffic.

00:20:19.720 But she sure did try.

00:20:21.880 This is such gaslighting.

00:20:23.740 And here's more of it.

00:20:25.620 Rachel Maddow, Sot3.

00:20:27.940 I mean, the key is nonviolent protest.

00:20:32.640 And this woman who got shot in Minneapolis, this mom, you know, she was she was not doing

00:20:38.380 anything violent.

00:20:39.500 And she wanted that she's been trying to drive into those federal agents.

00:20:43.440 She would have steered toward them, not away from them.

00:20:46.380 Thank goodness we have a video of what happened, because otherwise it might have gone unquestioned.

00:20:51.480 Oh, my God, Jesse.

00:20:54.660 Just a wife and a poet, Megan.

00:20:56.440 Just a wife and a poet on her way to softball practice.

00:21:00.080 She must have slipped on the ice.

00:21:02.540 It's terrible what they do.

00:21:04.500 And you know what's really horrible about that is Rachel Maddow with her rhetoric.

00:21:08.540 She look her and Jimmy Kimmel.

00:21:10.320 They're the exact type of elite communists we talked about at the beginning of this show.

00:21:14.220 They will lie to their audiences every single night without end until that person, that

00:21:20.540 broken person at home, whoever they are, finally gets up and decides to go do something about

00:21:25.980 it.

00:21:26.120 And that person will go off and lose their lives.

00:21:29.040 And Rachel Maddow and Jimmy Kimmel, when they do it, won't lose a minute of sleep over

00:21:34.720 the fact that they're the ones who drive that stuff.

00:21:38.200 I am so careful with my audiences.

00:21:40.360 I know you are to implore them never to do anything to get yourself arrested, get yourself

00:21:46.100 hurt, get yourself killed, because I dread the day.

00:21:49.120 I pray the day never comes, Megan, where I get some email of my husband heard you say

00:21:53.380 this and he went out and got killed or arrested.

00:21:55.700 I think I would retire that day.

00:21:57.360 I would be devastated if I thought the words I spoke hurt a normal person out there.

00:22:03.280 But these people don't they don't have any hesitation at all.

00:22:06.380 No remorse, no nothing, no, no sorrow for the six year old boy who now has one of his

00:22:12.640 mothers gone.

00:22:13.640 Nothing at all.

00:22:14.400 They don't feel anything, just soulless.

00:22:18.060 Mm hmm.

00:22:18.860 It's incredible to me that they don't that they'll just lie right to their audience's

00:22:23.360 faces and gin up their anger with absolutely no care for who gets hurt, whether it's their

00:22:28.480 audience or a federal law enforcement officer.

00:22:30.940 And now the new narrative has turned into kind of what you heard Rachel Maddow say there,

00:22:36.040 which is she she had turned her wheels, Jesse.

00:22:39.080 You see, she backed up.

00:22:40.900 They were telling her, get out of the car, get out of the car right now.

00:22:45.300 And she wasn't.

00:22:46.420 She wasn't complying.

00:22:47.320 She was resisting.

00:22:48.180 And then she tried to flee.

00:22:49.340 She backed up and then she turned her car and hit a cop.

00:22:52.520 She did hit him.

00:22:53.400 And by the way, his father has now confirmed that on the record with the Daily Mail, the

00:22:56.600 officer's father.

00:22:57.400 Um, he was hit and now the new narrative has been, well, she backed up, but then when she

00:23:03.980 pulled forward, you can see that the wheels of her car for a split second were turned to

00:23:08.120 the left and the cop was more to the right.

00:23:10.920 You see, so she wasn't intending to run him down, which by the way, she would have had he

00:23:17.140 not shot her.

00:23:18.000 He was hit.

00:23:19.240 We see it on camera, but that's the new line.

00:23:22.100 And yesterday on this program, we showed the audience video.

00:23:25.640 It's disturbing, but we're going to show it again of a cop in Baltimore who chased this

00:23:31.040 bad guy, uh, into a cul-de-sac in Baltimore, Maryland, and told him to get out of the car.

00:23:37.240 He pretended he was getting out of the car.

00:23:39.560 She thought she had him and he killed her.

00:23:43.240 He ran over her with his car.

00:23:45.120 Forgive me.

00:23:45.440 This is the videotape.

00:23:46.300 I'm showing it to you for a reason.

00:23:47.400 As the Jeep continued to advance, Officer Caprio got off one shot.

00:23:54.540 WJZ won't show the rest, but a somber jury saw and heard Amy Caprio dying from massive

00:24:00.240 crushing injuries.

00:24:02.420 Now, I want the listening audience to know this cop was on the side of the car, same as

00:24:08.420 the officer involved in the conflict in Minneapolis.

00:24:11.060 She was on like the front side headlight of it.

00:24:13.900 He's coming at her from the side.

00:24:16.600 He backs up and he rams her.

00:24:18.800 It happens in a second, a second.

00:24:21.960 He goes from stopped to she's dead with, as you heard them describe, massive injuries.

00:24:27.120 She got one shot off and she died.

00:24:29.460 She died, Jesse.

00:24:30.840 And now it was Will Chamberlain, I think, of the Article 3 project online who was saying

00:24:37.320 to the people like Rachel Maddow, who are focused on the direction of this Renee Goodes

00:24:43.820 front tires, pointing to this video saying, you know, maybe she didn't get a look at the

00:24:51.280 tire.

00:24:52.040 She should have looked at those tires before she, you know, made her decision.

00:24:56.380 She would have seen them pointed at her instead.

00:24:57.860 Like the absurdity of these leftists fucking Rachel Maddow, who makes $30 million a year

00:25:04.920 for doing one hour a week in her multimillion dollar mansions that we've shown because she

00:25:10.480 puts them on the air.

00:25:11.340 She wants us to see what a luxury, luxurious life she lives, is going to sit there and second

00:25:16.440 guess this ICE officer who lives, we now know, on the outskirts of Minneapolis in a working

00:25:21.540 class neighborhood.

00:25:22.540 He's married.

00:25:23.520 He's got kids of his own.

00:25:24.780 He's working as a cop, Jesse, and he doesn't make $30 million a year for one damn hour.

00:25:31.140 And she's going to mislead them about, he should have seen the way the tires were in

00:25:35.920 between her backing up to ran him and hitting him.

00:25:40.720 Yeah, that's what they do.

00:25:42.280 I mean, it's a vehicle.

00:25:43.220 It's the people say, well, she didn't have a weapon.

00:25:45.100 She had the deadliest weapon of any of them.

00:25:47.620 She had a deadlier weapon than anybody in law enforcement had there.

00:25:50.680 She had a 4,000 pound car.

00:25:53.380 As you mentioned, it happens in an instant.

00:25:56.600 And everybody with even the slightest bit of legal knowledge or law enforcement knowledge

00:26:00.740 knows that you cannot take chances when it's a car.

00:26:04.200 This is exactly why cops will oftentimes do seemingly very dangerous things to get one

00:26:09.960 of these speeding cars trying to get away from the cops off the road.

00:26:13.720 They're not doing that because they watched Dukes of Hazzard too much when they were kids.

00:26:17.560 They're doing that because that 4,000 pound car coming down the highway can kill anybody.

00:26:22.700 Lots of people in an instant.

00:26:25.640 I know maybe they didn't educate their communist street animals that that's a deadly weapon

00:26:30.120 because they want them to go out and do terrible things, but it is a deadly weapon.

00:26:34.640 And when you're told to stop, stop.

00:26:36.380 And when you're told to get out, get out.

00:26:38.100 And you don't get to hide behind.

00:26:40.340 I was panicking.

00:26:41.380 I turned my tires a different way.

00:26:43.680 If you don't comply, you are going to die.

00:26:46.880 That is how it works.

00:26:48.120 That's how it's always worked.

00:26:49.580 And for the safety of everybody, including the civilians, that's how it has to work in

00:26:54.760 a society.

00:26:55.400 But of course, no, no, no, Rachel Maddow's know that Stephen Colbert disagrees with you

00:26:59.900 entirely.

00:27:00.560 This is how he would spin the message you just offered.

00:27:03.940 Listen here.

00:27:04.340 So the message from this administration is clear.

00:27:08.840 Only they determine the truth.

00:27:10.800 And when their forces come to your city, obey or die.

00:27:13.980 And if you die, you clearly didn't obey.

00:27:18.420 Okay.

00:27:19.960 It's a little out of context.

00:27:22.380 It's all on camera.

00:27:24.340 This is, you know, what's just something that's funny.

00:27:26.540 I mean, I guess it's not funny, but it's in a way funny to me is how many years, how many

00:27:30.480 years, Megan, did you hear the left talk about, well, we want everything recorded.

00:27:34.540 We want body cameras.

00:27:35.780 We want this.

00:27:36.400 This was a big activism thing on the left.

00:27:38.660 Because of course, once the cameras come out, once everyone gets a cell phone camera and

00:27:42.420 everyone has a body camera, then of course, that's going to prove that these cops are a

00:27:46.120 bunch of violent nut balls and racist.

00:27:47.940 Of course, we always have to throw in racist, very, very racist.

00:27:50.180 They do a lot of very racist things.

00:27:52.220 And since we've had everyone with a cell phone camera and body cameras, what we've discovered

00:27:56.880 is no, actually, we have a bunch of very violent, horrible people in this country who do horrible

00:28:02.040 things and cops are now routinely put in an impossible situation and in a blue hellhole

00:28:08.720 like Minneapolis.

00:28:09.840 Thank God this guy was a federal officer doing federal things because you and I both know

00:28:14.520 in a place like Minnesota, he would be spending most of the rest of his life in prison, just

00:28:19.480 like Derek Chauvin is.

00:28:20.880 Oh, they would Derek Chauvin him in 60 seconds.

00:28:24.420 Yes, 100%.

00:28:25.380 So the recklessness of these people, right, like this, they truly are painting this Renee

00:28:31.080 Good like she was a saint.

00:28:33.560 It's, I listened to NPR up first this morning.

00:28:36.780 I can't, it, normally I cut sots and I play the audience what this crazy leftist podcast

00:28:41.680 does just because it's entertaining and it's an example of a, I couldn't even do it.

00:28:45.440 I couldn't go back over it.

00:28:46.920 Literally everything they said was misleading.

00:28:48.800 They didn't even offer the fact that she rammed the officer.

00:28:52.360 It was completely like, oh, this wonderful woman.

00:28:55.360 They literally told us what was on her Pinterest page.

00:29:00.080 Jesse, they were getting into what's on her Pinterest page.

00:29:03.200 Nothing about how she had parked perpendicular.

00:29:05.680 She was blocking the traffic.

00:29:06.660 She resisted arrest.

00:29:07.860 She accelerated into an officer.

00:29:09.940 Nothing.

00:29:10.280 Nothing.

00:29:11.200 Okay.

00:29:12.440 But knowing that this woman, because this is the one thing the left knows, this woman who

00:29:16.880 was killed, Renee Good, has a six-year-old child.

00:29:18.820 She has three children.

00:29:19.960 She has one of the youngest of whom is six.

00:29:21.760 And she left him that day to go do this.

00:29:25.340 And the left would like you to believe this is just sweet mama who left her boy at the

00:29:31.360 daycare to just go about her business, omitting the agitation entirely.

00:29:36.880 And so, but, so, but, but at least the left does know that this woman had a six-year-old

00:29:40.200 child and that that child's been left an orphan because the father is no longer in the picture.

00:29:45.620 I think the father died a couple of years ago.

00:29:47.000 Um, what does this woman do?

00:29:50.100 I think this is Minneapolis, but I'm not sure.

00:29:52.020 We haven't been able to totally confirm that.

00:29:54.120 This woman decides to tell this lady to hold her beer and brings, brings her six-year-old

00:30:01.260 to an ICE arrest and leaves him in a car, which we know is dangerous based on what we saw

00:30:09.160 just this week.

00:30:09.860 Nevermind the 100 rammings we've seen, usually illegals who are getting arrested by ICE, try

00:30:14.980 to unleash on them.

00:30:15.740 In this case, it was a Karen, but look at this, SOT 11B.

00:30:22.160 I'm, I'm far enough away.

00:30:23.820 I'm not influencing anything.

00:30:25.380 I don't know.

00:30:26.180 I need you to get near.

00:30:27.100 No, I won't.

00:30:28.020 Ma'am, I need you to leave.

00:30:28.680 It's my right to be here.

00:30:30.340 I will not.

00:30:31.920 You were too close right now.

00:30:33.040 You were interfering.

00:30:34.720 You're going to get out of my face.

00:30:36.280 I'm a public citizen.

00:30:37.320 No, I won't.

00:30:37.880 Tell me why I'm far enough away from your investigation.

00:30:40.380 Step beyond our cars.

00:30:41.520 Don't touch me, please.

00:30:43.280 Where's your cars?

00:30:44.060 Right here.

00:30:44.500 Where's your cars?

00:30:45.560 Oh, that's great.

00:30:46.620 Keep going.

00:30:47.300 That's great.

00:30:47.960 Sure.

00:30:48.640 I'll be on your cars.

00:30:49.560 20 feet, right?

00:30:50.300 See that white car?

00:30:51.800 I have a six-year-old right here.

00:30:53.620 I have a six-year-old right here.

00:30:55.100 You're an idiot.

00:30:55.980 Oh, I sure did.

00:30:57.200 Yes.

00:30:57.580 Child and danger.

00:30:58.340 Get your child off of the scene.

00:31:00.020 This is an active police scene.

00:31:01.400 This is all on camera right now, too.

00:31:03.320 Right here.

00:31:04.160 Yes, I'm wonderful.

00:31:05.020 I'm very glad for it.

00:31:05.800 Get your child out of here.

00:31:06.620 I can be right here.

00:31:08.160 I'm happy right here.

00:31:09.500 Pam, listen to me.

00:31:10.320 You have the right to videotape, okay?

00:31:11.460 I do.

00:31:11.760 Thank you, sir.

00:31:12.180 You listen to me right now.

00:31:12.840 I'm going to listen.

00:31:13.400 But we have someone that's being detained right here, okay?

00:31:15.940 You have a travel car seat.

00:31:17.440 Tell me where you need me to go exactly.

00:31:19.100 Hang on.

00:31:19.120 I need you to stay.

00:31:19.620 Do me a favor.

00:31:20.240 Yeah, I will.

00:31:20.740 No car seat, okay?

00:31:22.180 Give me a favor.

00:31:22.960 You can videotape all you like, but you have to stay.

00:31:25.060 You cannot come past that driveway, okay?

00:31:26.580 Perfect.

00:31:26.720 I'll be right back.

00:31:27.280 Thank you.

00:31:27.660 Thank you.

00:31:28.080 Stay at your car, though, okay?

00:31:29.540 Thank you.

00:31:29.860 You're more than welcome to videotape.

00:31:31.000 Thank you, sir.

00:31:31.560 Do me a favor.

00:31:32.600 By St. Paul, we're policemen, too.

00:31:34.440 That child is supposed to be in a booster seat.

00:31:35.960 He's not of age.

00:31:36.740 Oh.

00:31:36.960 So make sure you put him in a booster seat, because I'd hate to give you a ticket.

00:31:40.080 You can give me a ticket.

00:31:41.100 I'd love it.

00:31:44.340 Like, how do you help that person?

00:31:46.980 Megan, I was reading a book some years ago about East Germany, obviously communist East

00:31:54.200 Germany, and I knew a bit about it before I started reading the book, but just kind of

00:31:58.040 like highlights, one of the things that blew me away about East Germany, and it turns out

00:32:04.080 this same thing took place in the Soviet Union and China and everywhere else, was that

00:32:08.780 husbands would turn in their wives routinely.

00:32:11.620 Wives would turn in their husbands.

00:32:14.280 Children would turn in their parents.

00:32:17.440 Parents would turn in their children.

00:32:19.400 Moms would walk into the Stasi.

00:32:22.140 Hey, I heard my daughter, she's criticizing the government, which is what I thought you

00:32:26.720 guys should know about it.

00:32:27.760 Stasi shows up, takes the daughter away in the middle of the night.

00:32:30.420 And I remember thinking, because, I mean, my boys, I have two sons.

00:32:34.440 I would die for them a thousand times over.

00:32:36.540 I'd kill for them a million times over.

00:32:38.320 I would.

00:32:38.920 I'd do anything for my boys.

00:32:40.480 I couldn't relate.

00:32:41.600 I still can't understand it.

00:32:43.320 But the truth is, there is something about that sick demonic religion of communism that

00:32:48.840 it supersedes family immediately for these people.

00:32:52.220 It's not just that that woman would bring her six-year-old to a potential violent encounter.

00:32:56.520 She doesn't even know who they're arresting.

00:32:58.020 It could be a serial killer, a rapist, somebody who could come screaming out of that house

00:33:02.120 and hop in her car and take her car away.

00:33:04.120 But none of that would even occur to her.

00:33:06.020 And you know what's weird?

00:33:07.240 None of that would even bother her because she's there.

00:33:10.380 She's now the true mother of the revolution.

00:33:13.000 The child, the child just needs to be a tool of the revolution.

00:33:16.260 That's probably why she brought a bone.

00:33:17.540 He's a nice shield.

00:33:18.700 He'll help the revolution.

00:33:20.060 And I can't understand that way of thinking, Megan, I know how much you love, love your kid.

00:33:24.040 I know you probably can't understand that.

00:33:26.640 I don't want to understand it.

00:33:28.400 But I know that's how it is.

00:33:29.920 For these people, the revolution is their everything.

00:33:34.000 And everything else, including their children, is secondary.

00:33:38.320 Just a tool for the revolution.

00:33:39.780 This is such a good point.

00:33:41.560 You really brought that home.

00:33:44.040 You're right.

00:33:44.720 Like who that's got a six-year-old, not in his proper car seat, by the way, that sees law enforcement arresting someone who obviously is potentially a bad guy.

00:33:55.260 You don't know what this is.

00:33:56.360 You don't know why ICE is there.

00:33:58.240 What did he do?

00:33:59.420 Does he have a machine gun?

00:34:00.920 You know, is he going to open fire?

00:34:02.020 You have no idea.

00:34:02.740 Is he going to ram somebody?

00:34:03.820 Maybe your vehicle too.

00:34:05.880 Pulls over to the scene with their child in the car.

00:34:09.880 I'll tell you, one time in the past two years, we were walking in the Miami airport, my family, on the way home from someplace.

00:34:18.080 And an arrest went down.

00:34:20.000 They were arresting somebody outside of like the bathroom facility and, you know, just in the airport as you walk like to your gate.

00:34:27.600 And it was a big to-do.

00:34:29.680 And, of course, everybody, including my kids, was like, whoa, what's happening there?

00:34:32.760 What's happening?

00:34:33.460 And immediately, I was like, let's go.

00:34:35.760 Move.

00:34:36.520 Let's get out of here.

00:34:37.520 Any sane parent recognizes when you've got a criminal and the police, you have a dangerous situation, and at a minimum, get your kids the hell away from it.

00:34:47.300 This woman sought it out, then left her child alone in the car and was gleeful about it.

00:34:54.400 Gleeful.

00:34:55.180 But the same cabal will tell you they're the ones who care about humanity, children, the innocence.

00:35:01.780 And I'm sorry to bring this to you because every day here on The Megyn Kelly Show, we have yet another leftist crying, all right?

00:35:09.200 We've shown the new CBS News anchor, Tony Dokable, bawling about the fact he didn't get to grow up in Miami where he wanted to because his family moved away.

00:35:20.780 Then we had Sia, what's her name, the new tenant czar for Mayor Zora Mamdani crying because the Daily Mail decided to ask her questions, Sia Weaver.

00:35:30.520 And now we have Philip Bump, who is a Washington Post columnist, who was on the air on MS Now yesterday.

00:35:40.780 I'm just going to play the clip for you.

00:35:42.840 It's not six.

00:35:45.180 I mean, I think all this can be very personal.

00:35:51.220 Oh, God.

00:35:52.000 This is what you did to me, Chris.

00:35:56.520 I have a six-year-old.

00:35:58.280 And life should be great.

00:36:02.920 Really emotional for me.

00:36:04.700 And, you know, I take away from this.

00:36:06.700 This is great.

00:36:08.260 You know, what I take away from this is, for me, that's the thing that stands out, that this was a family that could have been like mine.

00:36:15.640 And there are a lot of situations, a lot of incidents that have involved ICE, have involved the government over the course of the past 13 months, in which there is resonance for other families in similar ways.

00:36:26.960 And for me, it's hard to think about that family being affected in this way.

00:36:33.620 Okay.

00:36:34.080 I have a serious question for you.

00:36:35.440 This sounds flippant, but it's not.

00:36:37.120 Is it the plastics that we're all taking in?

00:36:40.280 Is it, like, too much sunscreen?

00:36:41.780 What's, why are all the men becoming effeminate and more female-like in their emotions?

00:36:48.000 I see a man crying on TV, unless, like, their immediate family member has just passed, or a dear, dear friend of theirs, or it's a situation like we had, God rest him, with Charlie, where you're watching something horrific.

00:37:02.540 That I excuse.

00:37:03.440 But I'm sorry, Jesse.

00:37:04.160 All this, he doesn't know her.

00:37:06.820 He knows that she was an agitator.

00:37:09.240 And he literally can't control his emotions.

00:37:11.440 Is it an environmental thing, like with the frogs, that's making these guys more female?

00:37:17.520 I know that we've lost 50% of our testosterone in 50 years, and that they say, according to studies, that we're losing 1% a year.

00:37:27.840 From what I understand, and there's a million different things on this, the main culprit, believe it or not, is the estrogen, the elevated amounts of estrogen that's in women's birth control that is somehow making its way into the water.

00:37:40.820 Somehow they're not treating it out of the water supply.

00:37:42.860 What, you don't have it?

00:37:43.780 My husband, Doug, doesn't have it?

00:37:45.560 Like, why are you guys still men?

00:37:48.120 That's because I don't drink water, Megan.

00:37:49.640 I stick with whiskey.

00:37:50.780 And so I'm going to be just fine in the end.

00:37:52.740 But, no, look, I don't know whether it's the water supply.

00:37:57.340 I don't know exactly what.

00:37:59.360 Maybe Philip is actually on birth control, given how the left thinks about things these days.

00:38:03.660 He could be worried about getting pregnant.

00:38:05.220 This is how these people think.

00:38:06.420 I have no earthly idea.

00:38:08.280 What I do know is that as a man to work up some crocodile tears on television, even if it's fake, and it probably was fake, even if it's fake, is so inherently embarrassing that there's no cause that I would do that for in the world.

00:38:23.380 And if I was asked to, if my boss has told me in no uncertain terms to, I would quit on that day because there's just no way you're going to get me to work that up on camera.

00:38:32.320 And the lack of shame sometimes, and this probably sounds weird, Megan.

00:38:36.580 You can yell at me if you want.

00:38:37.900 Sometimes I admire it.

00:38:39.180 That when you look at the ridiculous things these people do without an ounce of shame whatsoever, they just tell a blatant lie right to your face.

00:38:47.280 They'll just cry on camera.

00:38:49.260 No shame.

00:38:50.620 They'll do these stupid dances, all the dumb dances and the chants in the streets.

00:38:54.680 Every time I look, I always think, I always picture my dad and what my dad would say to me, God rest his soul, if he ever caught me doing something like that.

00:39:03.560 And he would just slaughter me.

00:39:04.880 He would slaughter me.

00:39:05.860 And I don't know what it is, Megan, but I don't have it.

00:39:09.480 I'm sorry.

00:39:10.540 This is the kind of man who would cry during sex.

00:39:17.780 Instant ruination.

00:39:19.260 Like, I, this is ridiculous.

00:39:21.880 He doesn't know this person.

00:39:24.020 He knows that she went out there and asked for a confrontation.

00:39:28.500 And still, he's like, this is, he's leaning into it the same way that Tony Dokopoul was enjoying the fact that he worked up tears over his lost childhood in Miami.

00:39:38.180 Because they think this is like how to connect with, you know, today's young women.

00:39:44.720 You're not even discussing something particularly emotive.

00:39:47.080 By the way, you're in news.

00:39:48.700 Philip Bump used to write for the Washington Post.

00:39:50.360 Now he's an MS Now contributor.

00:39:51.900 You're in news.

00:39:52.520 You're supposed to develop a little bit of a thick skin, especially as a man.

00:39:56.640 But no matter male or female, this is crazy town what they're doing.

00:40:01.100 All right.

00:40:01.240 I want to keep going because there's much more insanity to bring to you.

00:40:04.360 Over in Philadelphia, they have views on what has happened in Minnesota.

00:40:09.240 Both the crazy-ass, woke, Soros-sponsored DA, Krasner, Larry, and his police chief.

00:40:18.100 Oh, and they're talking real tough, Jesse, against the Trump administration and ICE with warnings about what's going to go down if Trump sends ICE there, which is absolutely his right.

00:40:30.240 I will start with Krasner.

00:40:31.700 Let's watch it.

00:40:32.400 Sot 2.

00:40:32.760 If any law enforcement agent, any ICE agent, is going to come to Philly to commit crimes, then you can get the F out of here.

00:40:47.260 Because if you do that here, I will charge you with those crimes.

00:40:54.440 All right, tough guy.

00:40:55.320 You will be arrested.

00:40:56.820 You will stand trial.

00:40:58.400 You will be convicted, whether it's in state or federal court.

00:41:03.480 It's my office prosecuting it.

00:41:05.160 That's how the law works.

00:41:06.860 No, it isn't.

00:41:07.840 And you will do your time because Donald Trump cannot pardon you for a state court conviction.

00:41:15.140 Do you hear me?

00:41:16.860 I hear that you don't have jurisdiction.

00:41:18.900 Do you hear me, National Guard?

00:41:19.760 Do you hear me, military?

00:41:21.080 You're going to jail if you commit crimes in the city of Philadelphia.

00:41:28.660 You will be accountable.

00:41:30.180 The law applies to all of you.

00:41:33.600 Okay.

00:41:34.160 Good luck with that.

00:41:35.080 I just, I've got to show you the police chief and then get your reaction.

00:41:37.720 Her name is Rochelle Bilal, and she's the Philadelphia sheriff.

00:41:45.100 I'm Rochelle Bilal, the sheriff for the city and county of Philadelphia.

00:41:48.620 And I say her name, Renee Good.

00:41:52.200 Oh, Lord.

00:41:53.740 Renee Good.

00:41:54.600 Renee Good.

00:41:55.880 Renee Good.

00:41:57.920 This should not have happened, but we're here today.

00:42:02.280 Let know that law enforcement professionals, real ones, not the fake made-up ice, probably

00:42:09.080 trumps a new army to attack citizens of the United States.

00:42:15.000 Did you hear what I said?

00:42:16.220 No law enforcement professional wears a mask.

00:42:21.060 None.

00:42:23.440 None.

00:42:26.460 Those that come into our communities wearing a mask to commit crime, I thank God for our

00:42:33.340 district attorney, Larry Krasner, who say he's going to lock them up.

00:42:37.420 And I'm saying now, we are not going to whisk you away for them to hide your identity, because

00:42:44.640 when you do it there, you're getting arrested there.

00:42:48.960 Law enforcement professionals do not shoot at moving vehicles.

00:42:55.160 I'm not saying fleeing, because she wasn't fleeing.

00:42:58.140 She was getting out of the way.

00:43:00.720 Oh.

00:43:01.420 Law enforcement professionals do not stand in front of moving vehicles in voting and action

00:43:07.700 that is illegal.

00:43:10.140 No, we don't.

00:43:11.860 Tell it to the officer in Baltimore, Maryland.

00:43:16.020 Not too far from Philadelphia, really, on the train route.

00:43:19.840 Tell it to her.

00:43:20.640 We do not stand in front of a vehicle, and we do not fire at a moving vehicle, no matter

00:43:26.780 whether it's about to run you over and take their parent from their child.

00:43:30.780 A couple things, Megan, and both of these things are completely somber.

00:43:36.200 And I'm sorry, I don't mean to sound like I'm blackpilling.

00:43:38.160 I swear I'm not.

00:43:38.920 But first of all, with all the DEI madness that's been going on in this country for a

00:43:44.300 solid decade now, if not two decades, it's been common for most people, I know I've done

00:43:49.820 this a lot, to think that, yeah, there's a lot of that.

00:43:52.700 Yeah, they're just hiring this person because she's gay, because she's a black or a woman,

00:43:57.960 or Lord willing, you get the trifecta and you get all three.

00:44:00.940 And you're just trying to hire this and that.

00:44:02.680 And we always think that, well, OK, they're going to hire someone for the mailroom, maybe

00:44:06.340 a street cop, sure, an assistant manager somewhere.

00:44:09.720 We've convinced ourselves that this stuff will at least be held at a manageable level.

00:44:15.800 Surely this stuff won't rise to the highest, most important levels of society.

00:44:21.060 But that's simply not how it worked at all.

00:44:22.880 The truth is, at the head of police departments and sheriff's departments and corporations and

00:44:27.680 government agencies and all kinds of things, we have the most low IQ loser scumbags now

00:44:34.660 running critical institutions in this country.

00:44:37.400 And it's frightening when you think about how high this stuff goes.

00:44:40.840 That's one.

00:44:41.740 Two.

00:44:42.020 I know you're much more of a student of history than probably I am, Megan.

00:44:47.500 I certainly know your wonderful husband, Doug, is.

00:44:50.180 But I have not been able to find a historical example of where we are now as a country.

00:44:56.220 And where we are now as a country is we have hostile foreign city states inside of our border.

00:45:05.600 And I'm not sure how a country deals with that, any country, because I've never seen an example

00:45:12.400 of it.

00:45:12.780 Maybe the best example would be some city in the Roman Empire or the Persians or some city

00:45:19.440 that rebelled inside of its border.

00:45:21.560 Or maybe that's the best example I can find historically, only it's all over the United

00:45:26.540 States of America, New York City, L.A., Minneapolis, Chicago, over and over and over, Seattle, Portland.

00:45:32.980 You can go down the line.

00:45:34.680 Some of our biggest, most important cities, it's not just that they're a little left, right?

00:45:38.640 It's not just that they see things differently.

00:45:40.320 That's always been the case.

00:45:41.860 They are openly hostile.

00:45:44.280 And the leadership of those cities has declared that the deportation force of the United States

00:45:49.920 of America is illegal, subject to arrest, and that they will send their law enforcement

00:45:54.900 out to fight them.

00:45:56.420 That is civil war-ish.

00:45:59.680 I hate to even use the term.

00:46:00.360 Tim Walsh threatened to do that.

00:46:02.000 He threatened to do that just the other night.

00:46:03.600 He said if ICE keeps this up, he's going to send the National Guard out to fight ICE.

00:46:07.380 Good luck with that.

00:46:08.660 You're so right.

00:46:09.820 And on your first point about like the DEI hires and you're kind of banking on maybe traffic

00:46:14.840 cop at the best.

00:46:15.920 Um, no, it's, that's not what's happening.

00:46:18.860 This is the police commissioner for Minneapolis, for Hennepin County, Minnesota, where this thing

00:46:25.720 went down.

00:46:26.260 Her name is Irene Fernando.

00:46:28.660 You don't have to listen to much.

00:46:30.160 It happened this morning to figure out what's going on with this lady.

00:46:34.380 Watch.

00:46:36.120 I'm Hennepin County Commissioner Irene Fernando, but you can call me commish.

00:46:40.060 I use sheer pronouns and I'm a very, very proud child of immigrants.

00:46:44.760 I'm the youngest woman to ever serve on the Hennepin County board.

00:46:48.060 I'm the first Filipino American elected in the state.

00:46:51.180 And I'm Hennepin's first board chair of color in our 100.

00:46:55.180 Oh my God.

00:46:56.880 United States due process means that justice is pursued through legal action, credible investigation

00:47:04.220 and courts, not through guns, murder and violence on our streets.

00:47:12.220 Jazzy.

00:47:15.020 Everything.

00:47:15.840 It's every box.

00:47:16.900 It's, it's at the highest levels, Megan.

00:47:19.860 And that's what's scary.

00:47:20.980 It's it.

00:47:21.540 Hey, do you know what?

00:47:22.180 It's even more frightening when you talk about it like this.

00:47:24.780 It's in law schools, as you well know, it's in medical schools.

00:47:29.780 Everyone's seen the video, or at least if you haven't, I highly recommend you go look it

00:47:32.900 up at Columbia during medical school graduation.

00:47:37.280 We're talking elite.

00:47:38.580 But this Columbia, the kids are reading some communist apparatchik about how I am going

00:47:44.040 to, when I, when I do medicine, I'm going to take into account the historically disadvantaged.

00:47:48.540 I mean, the biggest bunch of commie gobbledygook you've ever heard in your life.

00:47:51.900 We lied to ourselves that this stuff is so insane and would be so damaging that yes, they'll

00:47:58.000 let the animals have some fun with this role or that role, but surely they'll never rise

00:48:02.980 up into the most critical positions.

00:48:04.820 But that's just not true.

00:48:07.640 And again, in blue areas, in blue states, and most definitely blue cities, they control

00:48:13.340 everything.

00:48:14.060 As you know, Megan, they are the judges.

00:48:16.120 They are the DAs.

00:48:17.380 They're the cops, at least the top cops.

00:48:19.560 The street cops may be okay, but they're completely handcuffed.

00:48:22.740 Pardon the pun on that.

00:48:23.760 They're the mayors.

00:48:25.120 They run the city parks department.

00:48:28.060 How do you deal with hostile communist foreign city states inside your border?

00:48:33.660 I don't know, but I know we have to.

00:48:35.860 We can't go like this.

00:48:36.720 No, you have to do what Trump is doing.

00:48:37.680 You have to, and you have to double down.

00:48:39.260 You have to send more troops when they behave like this.

00:48:41.260 I just can't imagine being in her position, which you're supposed to be kind of a badass

00:48:45.660 person, right?

00:48:46.340 You're a police commissioner and like talking about myself like that.

00:48:49.540 Like I'm, I'm a woman.

00:48:51.660 Um, I'm now over 40.

00:48:53.860 So I'm, you know, AARP eligible.

00:48:56.380 Um, I'm Irish.

00:48:57.460 So I come from a people who were oppressed when they first immigrated to the United States.

00:49:02.020 Um, there's some, there's some Polish in my background.

00:49:04.520 We were invaded by the Nazis.

00:49:06.280 Um, I have one breast that's slightly larger than the other.

00:49:10.040 Like, um, how much are we going to learn about you, madam?

00:49:15.980 It's insane.

00:49:16.980 These people, they're not well.

00:49:18.520 That's why your, your first response was totally valid in, in a couple of these soundbites,

00:49:23.220 which was, I heard you giggling.

00:49:25.300 That's, that's what comes to mind.

00:49:27.520 They're laughable.

00:49:29.140 What, what else can you do when, when you're faced with this kind of insanity?

00:49:33.580 It's not like you can, I mean, we talked about it in the, in the beginning of the show,

00:49:37.280 Megan, it's not like you can tackle it or reason with it.

00:49:40.480 Any human being who introduces themselves with their pronouns.

00:49:44.560 And then, as you just mentioned, goes down the list of their, their never end.

00:49:48.780 Here are my victim accomplishments before I go through this.

00:49:51.880 There's no, there's no talking to that person.

00:49:54.740 We've always wanted to believe those of us, at least me on the right.

00:49:58.800 We've always wanted to believe because we believe in the goodness of our fellow man and the

00:50:03.040 sanctity of every individual that, that maybe, maybe our political opponents.

00:50:07.200 Okay.

00:50:07.480 They're, they're a little lost.

00:50:08.860 All right.

00:50:09.160 They're, they're a little life knife.

00:50:10.580 They just don't understand.

00:50:11.440 If I could just have a pizza and a beer, give me a couple hours.

00:50:15.380 I'll show them.

00:50:16.020 I've got facts.

00:50:16.920 I've got facts here on this paper.

00:50:18.280 I'll show them some facts.

00:50:19.740 I'll show them some video and, and they'll come around.

00:50:22.720 That's not true.

00:50:23.760 They're insane.

00:50:24.460 No, it's an, it's a no.

00:50:26.160 I would love for that woman to meet you and say those pronouns and you say, I'm Jesse

00:50:30.940 Kelly, he, him, white, straight.

00:50:33.100 It's awesome.

00:50:33.900 Okay.

00:50:34.480 Stand by.

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00:52:49.240 All right.

00:52:49.740 So here's where we're going.

00:52:51.060 My team, because they love to torture me, heard our discussion about NPRs up first this

00:52:56.760 morning and went back and cut the bit about Renee Good's Pinterest.

00:53:03.680 Would you listen to this?

00:53:06.860 Well, a reporter from the Minnesota Star Tribune spoke with Good's mother.

00:53:11.340 She described her as the kindest person she's ever known, said she was not involved in any

00:53:16.480 kind of anti-government activity.

00:53:18.900 Good was the mother of three kids.

00:53:20.580 The youngest is about six years old.

00:53:23.600 We know she had a home repair business with her wife in Kansas City.

00:53:27.340 We also found what appears to be her Pinterest page.

00:53:30.780 And, you know, that page, to put it simply, is filled with the things of a normal human

00:53:35.320 life.

00:53:36.540 Ideas for recipes and haircuts, plans for a garden, and tips on parenting, like how to

00:53:42.280 soothe a child's anxiety and fun things to do with them in the summer.

00:53:45.500 Jessie, that's it.

00:53:49.840 That's it.

00:53:50.960 And listen, listen.

00:53:52.880 The New York Post has an explosive report out today that talks about how this woman,

00:53:57.520 Good, was an anti-ICE warrior who was part of a group of activists who worked to document

00:54:02.620 and resist the ISIS crackdown in Minnesota.

00:54:05.300 She moved to the city last year.

00:54:06.960 She linked up with the anti-ICE activists through her six-year-old son's woke charter

00:54:11.420 school, which boasts that it puts social justice first and involves kids in political and social

00:54:17.280 activism.

00:54:18.520 She was a warrior.

00:54:19.460 She died doing what was right.

00:54:20.780 A mother named Lisa, whose child attends the same school, told the Post.

00:54:24.960 They say that she was trained against ICE agents, what to do, what not to do.

00:54:31.340 It's a very thorough training, says Lisa.

00:54:35.160 Is it to listen to commands, know your rights, whistle when you see the ICE agents, and so

00:54:40.060 on?

00:54:40.380 She was doing everything right.

00:54:42.400 Last but not least, these goods, Renee and her wife had no love lost for President Trump,

00:54:48.380 leaving their Kansas City, Missouri neighborhood to move to Canada after the 2024 election with

00:54:53.600 plans to leave the country for good.

00:54:54.920 They lived there for a few months before settling into Minneapolis, said a former neighbor.

00:54:59.220 So this woman, who's just, she's just about the recipes, Jess, that's it, just loves her

00:55:04.320 recipes, was a freaking ICE-trained agitator.

00:55:10.060 Can you imagine how disgusting her recipes must have been?

00:55:13.440 There's no way that woman was a good cook.

00:55:15.100 There's no way that's one.

00:55:16.460 Two, I think normal people would be shocked to discover the level of professionalism these

00:55:24.160 communist warriors.

00:55:25.920 And you know what, I'll use their term because that's how they see themselves.

00:55:30.160 Normal people, even politically active people who go vote in primary elections and get involved

00:55:34.820 in elections, do not really realize the level of organization and sophistication of the

00:55:42.000 communists in the United States of America.

00:55:43.940 And it's always been this way.

00:55:45.220 And let's remember, we have elected officials like Karen Bass, mayor of Los Angeles, America's

00:55:50.200 second biggest city, traveled routinely to Cuba for communist training.

00:55:55.540 Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota, traveled to China about 8,000 times.

00:55:59.940 Nothing shady going on there.

00:56:01.800 If you talk to any former communist street animal in this country, and I've talked to many,

00:56:06.900 they will discuss classes, courses.

00:56:10.040 They have retreats.

00:56:11.120 We don't do this kind of stuff on the right, if anything.

00:56:14.140 And I ran for Congress twice and lost twice.

00:56:16.700 But you gather people up for five minutes on a Saturday and say, here's your list.

00:56:20.780 And please be polite.

00:56:21.920 And here's some bumper stickers to hand out.

00:56:23.640 And go knock on some doors and have a good time, everybody.

00:56:26.260 God bless.

00:56:26.720 Gather around for a prayer.

00:56:28.000 That's the extent of our training on the right.

00:56:30.940 Communists don't do this.

00:56:32.020 They have whiteboards.

00:56:33.120 This is what you're allowed to do.

00:56:34.320 This is how you can impede if you do this.

00:56:36.820 And beyond that, Megan, I know you know about this because I know you've talked about this.

00:56:40.580 They have phone numbers you can call if you do take things too far and get yourself in

00:56:45.900 handcuffs where you can call a number and somebody will post bail on your behalf.

00:56:51.240 It is a level of it's an army.

00:56:53.600 It's it's a guerrilla army operating inside of our borders.

00:56:57.380 It doesn't want you to know that.

00:56:59.140 So whenever one of them takes it too far and get shot, you have to talk about her Pinterest

00:57:02.840 page on NPR or just a loving mother and poet who made a lovely kale salad.

00:57:08.260 But in reality, that woman was trained and most likely paid.

00:57:12.320 Honestly, I like I am sorry that Renee Good is no longer with us.

00:57:16.460 I genuinely am.

00:57:17.160 I'm sorry for her, for her family, for her children.

00:57:19.600 But it is because of her own choices.

00:57:21.760 That's just the harsh reality.

00:57:23.460 She made really, really terrible decisions.

00:57:27.340 And now this just in, Jesse, we'd been asking yesterday, along with many others,

00:57:32.840 where is the videotape from the cop?

00:57:36.140 Because I'm not I'm not going to name the cop right now.

00:57:38.800 His name is out there, but I don't want him doxed.

00:57:41.640 This is not important right now what his name is.

00:57:44.060 By the way, he's an Iraq war veteran.

00:57:45.740 He has a family of his own.

00:57:47.360 And again, he was dragged just last June by an illegal while he was trying to arrest

00:57:51.520 him in ICE, a child molester to save people like Renee Good's children.

00:57:56.140 So he had reason to fear these cars.

00:57:58.160 So he took out his cell phone and he he was videotaping this whole encounter.

00:58:03.500 And we asked ourselves in our audience yesterday, where's that tape?

00:58:06.440 Well, guess what?

00:58:07.080 Alpha News just got it.

00:58:08.240 And they're amazing.

00:58:08.940 They're in Minneapolis and in Minnesota.

00:58:10.420 They've done great reporting on the whole Derek Chauvin case.

00:58:13.360 And here it is.

00:58:14.880 We're going to play it for you.

00:58:15.560 This is the vantage point from the cop leading up to the moments of the confrontation.

00:58:27.060 He's getting out of his car.

00:58:28.280 You can see him approaching the maroon SUV.

00:58:32.640 She's she's behind the wheel.

00:58:38.780 That's fine, dude.

00:58:39.840 I'm not mad.

00:58:41.240 Show your face.

00:58:42.500 I'm not mad.

00:58:43.140 It's OK.

00:58:43.600 We don't change our plates.

00:58:44.480 That's her talking.

00:58:44.980 I'm not mad.

00:58:45.480 Just so you know, it'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later.

00:58:49.300 That's fine.

00:58:50.100 U.S. citizen.

00:58:51.020 Former fucking president.

00:58:52.940 You want to come at us?

00:58:54.440 You want to come at us?

00:58:55.820 This is the wife.

00:58:56.540 Get yourself some lunch, big boy.

00:58:57.880 Go ahead.

00:58:58.780 Out of the car.

00:59:00.060 Get out of the fucking car.

00:59:01.680 She's getting in.

00:59:02.560 Out of the car.

00:59:02.860 All right, baby.

00:59:03.480 You're on the car.

00:59:04.060 Here it goes.

00:59:11.480 Let's re-rack that.

00:59:12.380 Let's re-rack the very last part and we'll play it again.

00:59:14.980 But, Jessie, what we see there is her wife antagonizing ICE.

00:59:20.560 This was obviously part of an op.

00:59:22.660 She's filming them.

00:59:24.400 She's trying to upset them.

00:59:27.440 And I didn't realize the wife was trying to get into the car at the time Renee Good steps

00:59:34.820 on the accelerator and hits the cop.

00:59:37.460 Let's watch it again.

00:59:38.120 We're on the same plate when you come talk to us later.

00:59:42.100 That's fine.

00:59:42.920 U.S. citizen.

00:59:43.800 Former fucking guys.

00:59:44.920 You want to come at us?

00:59:47.240 You want to come at us?

00:59:48.700 I say go get yourself some lunch, big boy.

00:59:50.680 Go ahead.

00:59:51.560 Out of the car.

00:59:52.720 Get out of the fucking car.

00:59:54.940 Get out of the car.

00:59:55.660 All right, baby.

00:59:56.240 You're on the car.

00:59:56.860 I mean, you can hear the collision.

01:00:02.160 You can hear her hit him.

01:00:05.420 And by the way, Jessie, if you slow it down and you look at the screen grab of Renee Good's

01:00:09.320 face, you can see she saw him.

01:00:11.600 She's looking right at him.

01:00:13.220 I mean, we have it here.

01:00:15.000 You'd have to zoom in, but I did it on my phone.

01:00:17.680 She clearly saw the officer and accelerated.

01:00:21.780 I don't know that she wanted to run him over.

01:00:23.760 I don't know what she intended, but it doesn't matter.

01:00:26.200 What he saw was a dangerous instrumentality about to kill him, and that is why he opened

01:00:31.500 fire.

01:00:31.840 Your thoughts on it?

01:00:33.520 Now she's dead.

01:00:35.140 I think it's so sad, but these are the—look, this is—you start doing drugs.

01:00:41.440 Please don't start doing drugs, Megan, not that I'm concerned for you, but you start

01:00:44.740 doing drugs, heroin.

01:00:46.720 It's something terrible like that.

01:00:49.060 You make choices, bad choices.

01:00:51.520 They lead to other bad choices, which leads to other bad choices.

01:00:54.620 And one day, those choices get you killed.

01:00:57.600 I've made a bunch of terrible choices in my life, many of which could have gotten me killed.

01:01:01.620 And by the grace of God, I'm still here.

01:01:03.680 But that's a woman who knows the whole background of how she got involved in communist politics,

01:01:09.740 all the meetings, all the training, all the this and that, her and her wife.

01:01:14.800 And they led her to Minnesota one day, and now she's gone.

01:01:19.560 She'll never see the age of 38.

01:01:21.440 And the terrible tragedy, as we talked about in the first hour, is the communist leadership

01:01:27.840 that encourages these people, organizes these people, pays these people, billionaires, people

01:01:32.020 in the media, Democrat politicians.

01:01:33.960 They won't change their ways today, Megan.

01:01:37.080 There's no humanity in it for them.

01:01:39.040 They're not sorry at all.

01:01:40.780 They'll send a bunch of other poor idiot dregs out to die again today and tomorrow and the next day.

01:01:45.720 They'll kill the whole world if it means money and power for themselves.

01:01:49.180 Like six or eight months ago, remember they said more people need to die.

01:01:52.660 We need to cause more chaos and more people need to die to get attention to our issues.

01:01:56.900 Well, Renee Good was sacrificed in that battle.

01:02:01.180 Here's a closer image of her face while driving the car into the officer.

01:02:07.080 I mean, it's clear she's looking at the camera.

01:02:09.060 She obviously saw him and put her foot on the gas and pressed.

01:02:12.940 It doesn't matter what her motivation was.

01:02:15.020 I don't care whether she was trying to run him over or trying to escape.

01:02:18.680 All that matters was the perspective of the officer and a reasonable officer in the same

01:02:23.560 position.

01:02:23.920 Would they reasonably fear for their safety or the safety of others?

01:02:26.660 And by the way, the one, the other cop's arm was in the car.

01:02:29.280 She was trying to take off.

01:02:30.820 And the answer is obviously yes.

01:02:32.920 All right, listen, I know you got a hard out coming, but I've got to ask you about this

01:02:36.180 story.

01:02:37.440 It happened in May, but it just made the news over the weekend because the video, for some

01:02:42.500 reason, just caught on, it is in a Planet Fitness in California and a woman named Grace

01:02:49.740 Hudson, who goes to Planet Fitness, walked into the women's locker room.

01:02:54.660 And what she says is she used the facilities.

01:02:58.060 She walked out of the stall, I guess, to wash her hands.

01:03:01.440 The shower inside the women's locker room stops and, quote, this dude comes out, quote, literally

01:03:07.260 straight up dude, tall and masculine.

01:03:10.720 He's naked and wrapped in a towel, she says.

01:03:15.620 And the next thing she knows, he goes into one of the bathroom stalls.

01:03:20.780 Forgive me, viewer warning here.

01:03:23.120 You're not going to see any body parts, but you're going to see shadows of the body parts.

01:03:26.860 And it's really clear what he was doing.

01:03:29.840 Bro, I literally saw your shadow, bro, like.

01:03:41.540 She confronts him.

01:03:42.300 Listen, you saw my shadow, that didn't mean anything.

01:03:46.020 I was in tears.

01:03:47.680 I was feeling myself together.

01:03:50.380 Y'all got to talk to do something about this, because this is.

01:03:54.080 Oh, we're ready for her, man.

01:03:55.360 This is the boyfriend.

01:03:56.220 Yeah.

01:03:56.620 All right, all right.

01:03:57.140 I just want to make sure.

01:03:57.660 And now employees are there.

01:03:58.960 Don't act, don't act innocent, bro.

01:04:01.680 I saw the fucking video.

01:04:03.620 I was on FaceTime watching you, bro.

01:04:06.420 You're in the fucking female's locker room beating your dick, bro.

01:04:10.360 Doesn't matter who you are.

01:04:12.520 That's inappropriate to be doing with females around.

01:04:15.920 It doesn't matter that you're in the stall.

01:04:17.500 It is inappropriate.

01:04:18.540 Do that shit at home.

01:04:19.680 I'm not harassing you out of the stall.

01:04:21.600 You're in the women's bathroom.

01:04:23.200 I'm allowed to be in here.

01:04:25.040 Doesn't matter if you're allowed to be in here.

01:04:26.820 You're not allowed to fucking jerk off in here, bro.

01:04:29.700 What were you doing?

01:04:30.400 I was drying off.

01:04:31.780 Like I just.

01:04:33.320 I was just drying off.

01:04:34.520 Just I'm sorry for the listening audience.

01:04:37.080 What you can see is like if you were standing outside of a bathroom stall, you can see maybe

01:04:40.940 people's feet and you can potentially see a shadow of the person.

01:04:44.040 And you can see the guy's clearly jerking off.

01:04:46.920 It's very obvious.

01:04:48.340 And then they confront him.

01:04:49.680 He's dressed in hot pink.

01:04:51.040 He's half out of the stall because he's, you know, I guess embarrassed he got caught and

01:04:55.700 claiming he has a right to be there, which sadly under California law, he does.

01:05:01.200 He does.

01:05:02.040 The Planet Fitness people stand around.

01:05:04.100 They have no idea how to handle it.

01:05:05.840 That's obvious.

01:05:07.060 They don't help.

01:05:07.960 The boyfriend comes in there and does the right thing, you know, calls out the guy,

01:05:13.520 gets into his face rhetorically.

01:05:16.320 And this guy has the rights and the law on his side in the People's Republic of California.

01:05:23.800 Jesse Kelly.

01:05:25.120 You know, Megan, we we look across the ocean at various, you know, Islamist type countries

01:05:31.540 where where women are treated like cattle.

01:05:33.860 You know, Afghanistan right now, young girls aren't allowed to go to school and women are

01:05:37.860 beaten and abused.

01:05:39.340 And we're mortified by it.

01:05:40.320 Correctly so, by the way.

01:05:41.280 We're mortified by it, that there's a place where women are just abused repeatedly.

01:05:46.780 And you know what we do, though?

01:05:47.840 We look down our noses at those places and we think, oh, well, I could never hear.

01:05:51.580 Well, that's every blue state now in the United States of America.

01:05:54.180 And that's just the reality of it.

01:05:55.740 The reality of it is because we've allowed this demonic filth to fill up certain parts of

01:06:01.600 our country, that young girls are abused, sexual abuse, physically abused, certainly

01:06:07.240 on the sports field routinely.

01:06:09.820 And we still look across the pond at a place like Afghanistan and we talk about what backwards

01:06:14.320 barbarians they are.

01:06:16.160 But every decent society in the history of mankind would have handled that problem immediately.

01:06:23.000 And I mean, legally, illegally, immediately that person would have been apprehended, faced

01:06:27.200 some sort of punishment.

01:06:28.640 Who knows what kind of punishment that would be?

01:06:30.800 It would depend on what time period, but it would have just simply been understood the

01:06:35.920 women deserve to be protected in society.

01:06:38.860 But if you choose to be a Democrat and live in a Democrat place, that protection is now

01:06:44.000 gone.

01:06:44.900 You are way, you're not even second fiddle.

01:06:47.260 I don't know if there's a third or fourth fiddle, but that's where you are compared to

01:06:50.540 all this tranny demonic nonsense that goes on.

01:06:53.600 And it, it sickens me.

01:06:55.400 That's where we are, that young girls, that women of any age would be subjected to that.

01:06:59.240 But that's what happens when you vote Democrat.

01:07:01.880 Yeah.

01:07:02.460 And now like that, you're, I have a 14 year old daughter, like we have to walk into Planet

01:07:06.060 Fitness.

01:07:06.360 And if she has to use the facility, she has to be next to that.

01:07:08.700 Or what about after this guy leaves?

01:07:10.720 I've got to go use that stall or my fellow women have to go use that stall that some

01:07:14.060 guy was just jerking off in.

01:07:15.500 How did it end?

01:07:16.880 It's disgusting.

01:07:17.720 I know.

01:07:18.720 And, and Gavin Newsom, who wants to be the president, allows this.

01:07:25.000 He willingly allows it.

01:07:27.400 It's disgusting.

01:07:28.320 And they say, Jesse, oh, you know, it's about being kind and being empathetic and people are

01:07:34.220 different.

01:07:34.660 And we have to let them use the facility that aligns with their gender identity.

01:07:39.860 The vast majority of these men pretending to be women are auto-gynophiles.

01:07:44.300 They get off on being in women's spaces, dressing like women.

01:07:48.460 And if they can jerk off around women in those circumstances, so much the better.

01:07:53.340 We are not safe with these perverts exploiting these laws.

01:07:58.140 And I don't know what it's going to say.

01:07:59.280 I know you got to go.

01:08:00.040 I'll let you get a quick last word.

01:08:01.400 But I don't know what it's going to take to, to, to bring this home for people like

01:08:05.700 Gavin Newsom who are still in power and want even more of it.

01:08:09.380 It's going to take people, even normal people, maybe even, you know, people who lean a

01:08:13.880 little left waking up and realizing there's only one party that enables this.

01:08:17.760 It's not me sitting here waving pom-poms for the useless Republicans.

01:08:21.420 But the truth is the Democrat Party, they are the party of evil now.

01:08:26.320 They promote it.

01:08:27.000 They will protect it.

01:08:27.880 And as long as you keep voting Democrat, I know, I know your daddy loved JFK, but as

01:08:32.660 long as you keep voting Democrat, this is what you're going to get more of.

01:08:35.660 There's no way around it.

01:08:37.660 Jesse Kelly, thank you for everything you do.

01:08:40.760 Appreciate you, mate.

01:08:41.540 Okay, I just want to play one soundbite.

01:08:44.020 Jesse had to go, but I want to play the soundbite of the young woman who was the witness to this.

01:08:47.880 Her name is Grace Hudson, as I said, and she's, she updated her video by commenting on it on

01:08:54.360 TikTok this past Sunday.

01:08:56.080 Listen.

01:08:58.000 I go out to wash my hands.

01:09:00.020 The shower stops and this dude comes out.

01:09:04.260 A tall and just masculine everything.

01:09:09.360 He's naked and wrapped in a towel.

01:09:11.360 I go to dry my hands.

01:09:12.840 I turn back around and I see that shadow.

01:09:16.200 So I go back out into the gym and about 10, 15 minutes later, I come back into the bathroom

01:09:23.600 and he's still doing that.

01:09:26.660 I called my boyfriend and showed him.

01:09:29.300 I go and tell the workers at the front desk.

01:09:33.500 They just didn't really seem like they knew what to do.

01:09:36.640 Eventually, they follow me into the restroom.

01:09:40.260 He kept trying to say, oh, he's transgender.

01:09:43.900 He was drying off.

01:09:46.060 I do have regrets.

01:09:47.320 Like, I should have done more.

01:09:49.100 I should have called the cops.

01:09:50.440 I thought about it, but I was like, there's no way anything is going to come of this.

01:09:54.900 Like, people are just going to say I'm transphobic.

01:09:58.920 Okay, I'm, that makes me so sad.

01:10:04.500 This young woman should never have had to deal with that.

01:10:07.200 It is a failure of all the rest of us.

01:10:09.840 She's young.

01:10:10.920 She didn't make the laws.

01:10:12.220 She grew up probably in the area.

01:10:14.400 It's a failure of all of ours in not stopping this, not working harder to stop this.

01:10:21.240 You know, I, I don't know what to say.

01:10:25.340 I wish I had always been on the right side of this issue.

01:10:27.860 Like so many millions of Americans, I thought it was empathetic to be kind to,

01:10:31.500 you know, trans people, so-called trans people who,

01:10:35.360 I never advocated for their use of bathrooms and locker rooms,

01:10:38.560 but I'm just saying like the empathy thing worked on me until I started to see it explode.

01:10:44.540 And so it's my fault and it's the fault of so many,

01:10:48.520 but it's really the fault of the people who are still pushing it.

01:10:51.940 There is no excuse for still pushing it in 2026 America.

01:10:55.420 There is no excuse for Gavin Newsom and the lawmakers of California,

01:11:00.340 like Scott Wiener, the disgusting, foul, perverted, in my view, Scott Wiener,

01:11:06.080 to allow this shit.

01:11:08.700 Why does she have to deal with this when she goes in just to work out and use the facilities?

01:11:15.620 Shame on you.

01:11:16.620 Shame on you, Gavin Newsom.

01:11:17.920 And I'm telling you right now, if this guy runs for president and there is a debate

01:11:21.820 and somebody doesn't ask him about this, I will shame you daily.

01:11:26.740 I will call my other big swing in podcast friends and make sure you get shamed by name

01:11:33.000 for not asking him about this, about how he could allow this to happen to poor Grace Hudson.

01:11:40.440 It's not her fault.

01:11:41.760 She's feeling bad.

01:11:43.100 She feels guilty that she didn't do more.

01:11:44.760 Grace, there's nothing more you could do.

01:11:46.600 The California law is against you.

01:11:48.340 It allows this pervert to jerk off an inch away from you in the bathroom stall

01:11:55.080 when you are just trying to get fit and better your life.

01:11:57.700 It's disgusting.

01:11:59.500 It's immoral.

01:12:00.720 It's derelict.

01:12:01.780 It's evil.

01:12:04.300 There's been no response from Planet Fitness.

01:12:08.940 Why not?

01:12:10.320 Do you give two shits about your clients?

01:12:13.360 Do you care at all?

01:12:14.780 I wonder what Grace is paying a month, probably 70 bucks for her membership.

01:12:17.880 Do you care at all about the women there?

01:12:20.180 I'm just curious, like, who goes in there and cleans up the mess that that disgusting

01:12:25.200 tranny fool made?

01:12:26.700 Yeah?

01:12:27.020 Like, do you think he's the kind who cleans up carefully after himself?

01:12:30.160 Or do the women now need to sit on male semen when they try to use the stall?

01:12:35.200 That's okay with you, Planet Fitness, just checking, asking for a friend.

01:12:38.860 And you might want to talk to your front desk staff.

01:12:41.400 If you're going to impose these laws on Californians and then you, Planet Fitness,

01:12:45.260 are just going to go along with them instead of creating some single-sex stall where they

01:12:50.000 can go, you might want to give some thought to the front desk staff.

01:12:54.140 You know, like, maybe they need to come in there with their rubber gloves and their Clorox

01:12:58.020 and their mops and their rags after every one of these so-called trans people uses our

01:13:04.200 facilities, okay?

01:13:05.060 Because none of us wants to sit on that bathroom stall.

01:13:07.980 None of us wants to deal with that, okay?

01:13:09.560 And unlike men, we actually do have to sit most of the time, and our legs burn, and it's

01:13:15.060 tough, and sometimes you're dealing with feminine business that makes it even tougher to be standing,

01:13:19.020 hovering for five minutes over the seat.

01:13:21.640 So fucking clean up your act.

01:13:24.240 Make it clean.

01:13:25.020 Make it safe.

01:13:26.180 And honestly, if you can't stop this from happening, close up your doors and hang up

01:13:32.920 your shingle.

01:13:34.060 Get out.

01:13:35.380 Get out of the health business because that's not what this is.

01:13:38.500 This is Times Square in 1977.

01:13:40.580 That's what this is.

01:13:41.760 They're one step away from carving a little hole in between the stalls so somebody can

01:13:46.320 suck that guy off.

01:13:47.320 I'm sorry, I'm getting disgusting, but it happens.

01:13:49.940 This is so disgusting.

01:13:52.160 And what they tell us is it's trans rights, our human rights.

01:13:54.960 That's it.

01:13:55.560 That's the tweet.

01:13:56.660 No, this is about women's rights.

01:13:58.680 This is about this young girl, Grace's right to be safe and feel safe when she tries to relieve

01:14:06.240 herself while working out.

01:14:09.540 Fuck you, Planet Fitness.

01:14:11.440 Fuck you, Gavin Newsom.

01:14:13.060 And you too, Scott Wiener.

01:14:15.700 We'll be right back.

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01:15:40.280 Okay, so we've been talking about Minneapolis and Portland all afternoon, and one thing I

01:15:46.860 didn't get to was now that Renee Good has died, the protesters who have been harassing

01:15:55.680 ICE for days are treating it like she's George Floyd.

01:15:59.020 I mean, like, this is just a clear example in their view of police brutality, and, you

01:16:04.380 know, every sane, passionate, or compassionate person would see her as the obvious victim

01:16:08.940 who didn't ask for this.

01:16:10.100 And you get this from one of the protesters.

01:16:14.620 This is via the Daily Wire's Breka Stoll, Sat 12.

01:16:19.340 I was like, I don't know if it's the right thing to do.

01:16:21.340 It feels kind of wrong being here in some way.

01:16:23.400 I don't know why.

01:16:24.860 Why do you think?

01:16:25.840 I don't know, like, where that stems from.

01:16:34.480 Like, I don't, I mean, part of it is being, like, a white woman that I'm privileged, and

01:16:41.360 I have a lot of privilege.

01:16:43.040 Oh, my Lord.

01:16:43.440 So I feel like white tears are not always something that's helpful or necessary when

01:16:49.560 black and brown people have been experiencing this for a long time.

01:16:53.340 This isn't new for them.

01:16:54.620 And so I don't know if that makes any sense in that way.

01:16:59.340 I'm here, and I'm crying, but I feel guilty about my tears because I'm white.

01:17:05.940 And this doesn't even involve anybody who's black at all, or Hispanic.

01:17:09.200 It's all whites.

01:17:10.260 The shooter, the cop who shot her is white.

01:17:13.040 The woman who died is white.

01:17:14.760 Her wife was white.

01:17:16.300 This is every, white, white, white and white.

01:17:18.020 But a white woman's not allowed to shed white tears, period, Link, because black and brown

01:17:22.980 people have gone through this more times than white people have.

01:17:25.580 No, they're definitely trying to make Renee the next George Floyd.

01:17:29.420 You can see that with Tim Walls.

01:17:30.640 And I think it's perfect for Tim Walls because he allowed businesses to be burnt to the ground

01:17:34.780 during George Floyd.

01:17:35.920 In fact, I think his wife talked about how they could smell tires burning outside, and

01:17:39.720 it really, you know, coaxed them to sleep.

01:17:41.560 We can smell tires burning outside.

01:17:43.520 She said she used to put down her windows or lift up her windows so she could smell it.

01:17:47.960 Right.

01:17:48.320 And then you have Jacob Fry, who is kneeling at George Floyd's casket.

01:17:51.140 So they're trying to do this.

01:17:52.020 But what people can't forget, and I've been trying to raise this on social media, this is

01:17:55.560 a gift to Tim Walls.

01:17:57.400 He won't admit this publicly, but in my opinion, this is a big gift for Tim Walls.

01:18:01.920 And he's probably happy that this happened because it's moving the news cycle off of

01:18:05.760 his massive Somali fraud scandal.

01:18:08.520 Look how quickly the news cycle moved on to Renee.

01:18:11.380 So I think Tim Walls is probably happy about this, but we're going to have to get back to

01:18:14.480 the fraud scandal.

01:18:15.620 One thing I also say is this.

01:18:17.400 If you're driving and someone tells you to stop their car, right, if a federal agent tries

01:18:21.700 to stop and talk to you, do not try to ram into them with your Honda Pilot, right?

01:18:26.480 For me, I follow the rules.

01:18:28.060 But what we've seen with these Democrats for years is they're so used to being let off the

01:18:31.680 hook by leftist liberal judges.

01:18:33.720 They're used to having no consequences.

01:18:35.500 There'll be, you know, pallets of bricks left out for them at these protests, just willy-nilly.

01:18:39.620 And so they're not ever used to having consequences.

01:18:41.700 And unfortunately, in this situation, she had consequences.

01:18:44.440 Nobody wanted to see her get shot.

01:18:45.900 Nobody wanted to see her die.

01:18:47.000 But when you're using your car as a weapon, things are going to happen, right?

01:18:50.640 You stalked this guy, you rammed him, and it went down.

01:18:53.920 And yet the media continues to look at this and say, what we're seeing here is she was

01:18:59.420 in the right.

01:19:00.080 That's what this shows.

01:19:01.800 You know, we saw that with Jimmy Kimmel last night.

01:19:03.960 Thank God.

01:19:04.680 You know, thank God there's a video that shows us this Rachel Maddow.

01:19:06.960 Like, obviously, the video shows that the cop was in the wrong.

01:19:10.280 And then thank goodness for Vice President J.D. Vance, who went to the White House press briefing

01:19:16.280 room yesterday, got up in front of the lectern, and let him have it.

01:19:20.900 Here's SOT 9.

01:19:23.780 When I was actually walking out here, somebody sent me a photo of a CNN headline about what

01:19:31.020 happened in Minneapolis.

01:19:32.800 And this is the headline.

01:19:33.620 I'm just going to read it.

01:19:35.400 Outrage after ICE officer kills U.S. citizen in Minneapolis.

01:19:39.860 Well, that's one way to put it.

01:19:41.960 And that is the way that many people in the corporate media have put this attack over the

01:19:46.480 last 24 hours.

01:19:47.620 And I say attack very, very intentionally because this was an attack on federal law enforcement.

01:19:53.320 This was an attack on law and order.

01:19:54.980 This was an attack on the American people.

01:19:57.380 The way that the media, by and large, has reported this story has been an absolute disgrace.

01:20:03.300 And it puts our law enforcement officers at risk every single day.

01:20:07.440 What that headline leaves out is the fact that that very ICE officer nearly had his life ended,

01:20:13.780 dragged by a car six months ago, 33 stitches in his leg.

01:20:18.360 So you think maybe he's a little bit sensitive about somebody ramming him with an automobile.

01:20:22.740 What that headline leaves out is that that woman was there to interfere with a legitimate law

01:20:27.840 enforcement operation in the United States of America.

01:20:30.480 What that headline leaves out is that that woman is part of a broader left-wing network

01:20:35.820 to attack, to dox, to assault, and to make it impossible for our ICE officers to do their job.

01:20:43.220 Cue all the media saying he made that up.

01:20:46.080 None of that is verifiable.

01:20:48.060 She wasn't part of a network.

01:20:49.780 See her mother, her mom, who says she was really great and wasn't part of a network.

01:20:55.440 Well, I've got reporting from the New York Post quoting people at her woke school who say

01:20:59.800 she was.

01:21:01.920 No, what's so funny, watching that clip, what comes to mind for me is it's so nice having

01:21:06.420 a president, a vice president, a secretary of state, an entire administration that can

01:21:11.020 form coherent sentences.

01:21:12.240 Because for the last four years, could you imagine Kamala even getting up there to do

01:21:16.480 a presser and take questions that aren't vetted?

01:21:18.820 Could you imagine Joe Biden getting up to take questions?

01:21:20.980 They would give him note cards with people's pictures and names and biographies and the questions

01:21:25.080 written out for him.

01:21:26.120 So when I saw J.D. Vance at the podium, we can talk about the content of what he said

01:21:30.040 next.

01:21:30.380 I was just so happy to see a vice president who wasn't three sheets to the wind by 12 in

01:21:34.500 the afternoon and could actually talk and form coherent sentences.

01:21:37.500 So that was great.

01:21:38.380 I'll also say this.

01:21:39.440 Stop vilifying and demonizing law enforcement.

01:21:42.460 But this is the whole narrative on the left, right?

01:21:44.900 They always have this victim mentality.

01:21:46.660 They vilify men and women in uniform, vilify people who serve our country.

01:21:50.180 You see that with Jimmy Kimmel.

01:21:51.280 Maybe we can talk about him in a second.

01:21:52.620 But it's this constant vilification of people who are out there enforcing laws.

01:21:56.540 I'm sorry, Democrats.

01:21:58.000 Let me break it to you how the country works.

01:22:00.020 I haven't been on earth that long, but I can break it down for you.

01:22:03.020 Elections have consequences.

01:22:05.380 If you guys don't like the deportations, if you don't like what ICE is doing, take it to

01:22:09.520 the ballot box.

01:22:10.560 You know what I'm saying?

01:22:11.400 Kamala Harris lost every single swing state, the House, the Senate, the popular vote, electoral

01:22:16.080 college, the list goes on.

01:22:17.320 So when the Democrats are crying and whining about this, this is what we voted for.

01:22:21.520 President Trump for 10 years has run on mass deportations.

01:22:25.320 We're going to do the wall.

01:22:26.400 We're going to get criminals out of the country.

01:22:27.960 We're going to be tough about it.

01:22:29.200 And we're going to move fast and get things done.

01:22:31.080 So when the election came around and he won overwhelmingly, you guys are going, oh, we

01:22:35.480 can't believe he's out there doing it.

01:22:37.100 Take it to the ballot box.

01:22:38.380 Stop using your cars as weapons.

01:22:40.100 Stop stalking law enforcement.

01:22:41.500 Stop doxing them.

01:22:42.300 This poor man who was in an unfortunate situation and did what he thought he had to do in self-defense.

01:22:46.880 They've already found his name, where he lives, his family.

01:22:49.820 God bless all of them.

01:22:51.060 But these leftists will continue to vilify law enforcement, unfortunately, I think, from

01:22:54.760 here on out until 2028.

01:22:56.900 You're totally right.

01:22:57.840 And by the way, it was a very good point you made about Tim Walz because, look, he may be

01:23:01.880 dodging responsibility or at least the limelight right now because all eyes are focused on

01:23:06.920 ICE.

01:23:07.380 But this is coming back.

01:23:08.660 This is definitely coming back.

01:23:09.780 ICE did not back off one bit.

01:23:11.740 Their officers are all still there investigating the fraud and arresting illegals.

01:23:15.020 And just yesterday, we got an announcement from Secretary Besant saying, if you are on public

01:23:23.280 assistance, you can no longer wire money out of the United States, which is clearly aimed

01:23:30.500 directly at these Somalis in Minneapolis who, per reporting from City Journal and County

01:23:37.840 Highway and others, have been wiring money overseas.

01:23:41.260 In part, it is believed, has funded the Al-Shabaab terrorist network.

01:23:46.700 And Secretary Besant just put the kibosh on that.

01:23:49.500 And Tim Walz is not going to escape responsibility for this.

01:23:53.260 No, Tim Walz wants to obfuscate, hide the truth.

01:23:55.880 He does not want to address the Somali scandal.

01:23:58.000 And I'm almost thinking, you know, I'm the least conspiratorial person you will ever find,

01:24:01.640 Megan.

01:24:01.840 But when I look at the last election, right, Kamala Harris chose Tim Walz out of the blue.

01:24:06.620 She needed Pennsylvania.

01:24:07.820 She didn't choose the guy from Pennsylvania.

01:24:09.480 She chose this clown, Mr. Jazz Hands from Minnesota.

01:24:12.420 So she chooses him, right?

01:24:14.040 And all of their vetting, you're telling me the DNC's vetting, Kamala Harris's vetting,

01:24:19.100 PR, all of that, private investigators.

01:24:21.300 You guys didn't know about any of this fraud, even though people in Minnesota said they've

01:24:24.880 known about it for years.

01:24:26.320 There have been rumors for years.

01:24:27.780 And I can tell you, Megan, I have friends all across the political spectrum, left, right,

01:24:31.940 center, libertarian, whatever.

01:24:33.880 This is bringing people together.

01:24:35.480 I mean, I had a transgender classmate from NYU who lives in California text me paragraphs

01:24:40.660 about how pissed she was about the Somali fraud scandal in Minnesota because we work hard.

01:24:46.100 We pay our taxes.

01:24:47.320 We get up and work.

01:24:48.160 We sit here and sell our masa chips every day and cowboy colostrum and work.

01:24:52.220 We don't want our tax dollars going to Somalians who are funding terrorism.

01:24:56.500 Call me crazy.

01:24:57.480 And it's clear we're paying way too much in taxes if $8, $10, $12 billion, by some of

01:25:02.720 these estimates, is going to terrorist organizations and Somalians and daycares with no children.

01:25:07.440 So this is going to bring people together.

01:25:08.960 I think fraud, if Republicans get their act together in the midterms, they can run on this

01:25:14.020 fraud.

01:25:14.460 I mean, there's something here for everybody here.

01:25:16.520 Healthcare fraud.

01:25:17.700 SNAP program has a lot of fraud.

01:25:19.500 They don't want to turn over their scrolls either.

01:25:21.380 You've got Somalian fraud.

01:25:22.800 You've got people rigging things.

01:25:24.160 I think Republicans can run on this.

01:25:25.800 Run on most favored nations.

01:25:27.540 Run on getting health care costs down.

01:25:29.000 Run on securing the border.

01:25:30.280 And ram this fraud narrative home.

01:25:31.800 Because if the Republicans lose in the midterms, you don't think there's going to be even worse

01:25:35.480 fraud?

01:25:36.100 You don't think there's going to be worse fraud?

01:25:37.620 It's only going to be worse.

01:25:38.040 I think it's great that the DOJ now has a new fraud ambassador, fraud czar, who's going

01:25:42.520 to be looking at this.

01:25:42.980 That person also needs to look into disability fraud, because I've covered so many cases

01:25:47.400 where people, they claim disability.

01:25:49.200 It's bullshit.

01:25:49.940 They retire with something like, I don't know, three quarters of their salary, and it's all

01:25:53.660 made up.

01:25:54.100 Then you see them running a marathon.

01:25:55.680 You see them doing like a triathlon.

01:25:57.700 It's ridiculous.

01:25:58.760 And that's another fertile area to figure out who's defrauding us out of our hard-earned

01:26:03.160 dollars.

01:26:04.260 If anyone has flown Southwest in the comments, you have seen this first and foremost.

01:26:08.200 They have 20 wheelchairs.

01:26:09.500 And you know, Southwest is first come, first served.

01:26:11.240 So it's like the Hunger Games.

01:26:12.460 They've got 20 wheelchairs, because people got to get on first and get those good seats.

01:26:16.440 You get off in Miami, people strutting off the plane, sashaying off the plane.

01:26:20.660 So we do need to look into all of this.

01:26:23.120 We have all seen that.

01:26:24.300 One word on J.D. Vance, who was just stellar yesterday.

01:26:27.880 Tim Miller of the Dispatch tweets out, J.D. Vance is the most appalling person in public

01:26:32.500 life since segregation.

01:26:34.880 This is a truly despicable performance.

01:26:38.100 And then you've got Jon Favreau of the Pod Save guys.

01:26:41.700 Can't believe I'm saying this, but I think he's worse than Trump.

01:26:44.860 Certainly more despicable.

01:26:46.660 Two people.

01:26:47.840 That's just two, but there are plenty of others calling him despicable.

01:26:51.660 That's the word for J.D. Vance.

01:26:52.700 He's despicable.

01:26:53.580 He's even worse than Trump, Link.

01:26:55.700 They see what we see, which is 48.

01:26:59.240 Well, it's interesting.

01:27:00.240 Tim Miller, these guys from Pod Save America, they're about as politically relevant as like

01:27:04.720 a hemorrhoid.

01:27:05.440 Like nobody cares about what they have to say whatsoever.

01:27:08.520 Like I don't think anyone is looking at Tim Miller for some political expertise.

01:27:12.020 This guy doesn't even know where he stands.

01:27:13.640 He'll say anything to get on MSNBC each night.

01:27:15.780 So he has no principles.

01:27:17.080 And where were these folks the last four years?

01:27:18.860 When they are carrying water for Biden, when Kareem Jean-Pierre and these Democrat operatives

01:27:22.960 were saying he's sharp and quick and doing cartwheels, you have no trust.

01:27:26.400 You have no trust outside of your very far left base.

01:27:29.760 So how are you going to win in 26?

01:27:31.500 How are you going to win in 2028?

01:27:33.200 And I will say there's not much competition on the left, right?

01:27:35.980 Gavin Newsom, he's supposed to be their stellar star.

01:27:39.220 Gavin Newsom in every single interview, you press him, he starts shaking.

01:27:43.080 He starts sweating.

01:27:44.100 His eyes are bloodshot.

01:27:45.140 He comes unglued very quickly, Gavin Newsom.

01:27:47.900 So I don't even think he'll do well in debate.

01:27:49.940 So J.D. Vance, calm, cool, collected.

01:27:52.320 Marco Rubio, funny, calm, cool, collected as well.

01:27:54.660 I mean, we have a great bench, and I think there are some names that we're not even discussing

01:27:58.520 yet.

01:27:58.820 So we'll see.

01:28:00.080 Here's what I want to hear the next time Gavin Newsom goes anywhere.

01:28:03.200 Grace Hudson, Grace Hudson, Grace Hudson, Grace Hudson, planet fitness, planet fitness, planet

01:28:08.000 fitness, planet fitness.

01:28:09.560 Every journalist who fails to do that is derelict in his or her duty.

01:28:15.160 Well, what's interesting is one time when I was in the press pool, I asked President Trump

01:28:18.640 about the fight Gavin Newsom was having with the DOJ to keep men and women's sports.

01:28:22.420 And we've talked about A.B. Hernandez, and Gavin Newsom has flip-flopped on this trans

01:28:26.220 issue a lot.

01:28:26.840 Now he's decided he wants more trans kids and he loves trans.

01:28:29.620 So clearly the special interest and entrenched interests and medical lobby has gotten to

01:28:34.420 him.

01:28:34.800 But I remember asking President Trump, I said, does Gavin Newsom hate women?

01:28:38.360 Does he hate women?

01:28:39.200 Like, how can you as a father, right, as a father of a young woman, want men in the

01:28:43.640 women's locker rooms, men in the women's bathrooms?

01:28:45.720 And President Trump laughed.

01:28:46.640 He's like, I certainly don't think Gavin Newsom hates women.

01:28:49.120 But if Gavin Newsom doesn't come down on the right side of history on this issue, he doesn't

01:28:53.280 have a prayer.

01:28:53.860 They say this is 80-20.

01:28:55.260 Go out there and talk to people at the supermarket.

01:28:57.460 Go out there and talk to forgotten men and women of this country.

01:28:59.860 They will tell you this is not an 80-20 issue.

01:29:02.600 And I'm so happy if Kamala Harris had won, we could have been deplatformed for having

01:29:07.700 this conversation.

01:29:08.600 Look at what happened during COVID.

01:29:09.980 If you said anything they didn't like, it was like George Orwell in 1984.

01:29:14.020 We would have been deplatformed.

01:29:14.940 He'd impose that readily.

01:29:16.400 And by the way, no, he doesn't hate women, but he just, just our rights.

01:29:19.380 That's all, just our rights.

01:29:20.760 I want to keep going.

01:29:21.620 You mentioned Jimmy Kimmel.

01:29:22.480 I'm glad you raised that because I've been trying to get to this all week.

01:29:24.660 His show won the Critics' Choice Awards, and he had the nerve to say this backstage.

01:29:31.060 Sot 17.

01:29:34.600 It's interesting.

01:29:35.620 It was almost a near-death experience for me.

01:29:38.040 And, you know, of course, not literally, but I did feel a little bit like Tom Sawyer and

01:29:43.040 Huck Finn watching their own funeral when all this stuff happened.

01:29:48.580 And to be here and to see that people reacted to it in a, not just a positive way, but in

01:29:55.600 almost a desperate way, we're like, oh, boy, when they come after the comedians, this is

01:30:00.120 when we draw the line.

01:30:01.820 And, you know, we're very grateful that they drew the line at us.

01:30:08.040 Uh, Link, a near-death experience.

01:30:11.080 I mean, how dare he use that term?

01:30:12.660 How dare he use that term?

01:30:14.240 This multimillionaire privileged asshole sitting out there in Beverly Hills because his show

01:30:19.000 was off the air for five days.

01:30:21.960 Five days.

01:30:23.100 That's it.

01:30:23.580 And he wants to use that term.

01:30:25.540 And also, just one other point, to talk about how, oh, you know, when they come for the comedians.

01:30:30.040 Guys, where was he when comedians were being canceled left and right in 2020 because of

01:30:37.560 woke excesses?

01:30:39.660 I'll just play you one, just one.

01:30:42.220 Ryan Long came on our show in May of 2021.

01:30:45.140 We didn't even have video.

01:30:46.100 We were just an audio podcast back then and talked about this and what he'd been through.

01:30:50.900 He's a brilliant comedian.

01:30:52.040 So quick soundbite, but listen to this.

01:30:54.080 Sot19.

01:30:54.520 I mean, when I was doing stuff at CBC, which is the Canadian Broadcast Corporation, I was

01:31:01.280 part of, you know, traditional media and I had probably the biggest views out of any

01:31:05.080 show.

01:31:05.440 And my digital series, the two or three other ones would be turned into television shows

01:31:11.460 and mine wouldn't.

01:31:12.160 And I was in a million conversations, you know, in closed doors and on conference calls

01:31:18.660 where it was like, listen, like they're not doing a show with a white male.

01:31:20.820 Like, that's just what the situation is if you want to, you know, potentially we could

01:31:25.740 be partnering with someone that isn't white or whatever it is.

01:31:28.000 Right.

01:31:28.100 Like the amount of these conversations I have and I go, yeah.

01:31:31.020 OK, so option one is I can, you know, stay there and complain.

01:31:35.160 Option two is I sort of moved to America and tried to build my own thing.

01:31:39.840 So, of course, that sucks.

01:31:41.260 And, you know, Tim Allen's getting his show kicked off the air because for no reason when

01:31:45.180 it was a hit.

01:31:45.740 And I've seen this time and time again.

01:31:47.340 I don't remember Jimmy Kimmel standing up for anyone other than himself, Link.

01:31:55.640 For Jimmy Kimmel to say him being put on pause for a couple of days was a near-death experience,

01:32:00.640 it made my skin crawl a couple of days ago when I saw it because what a slap in the face

01:32:05.120 to men and women who serve this country.

01:32:07.340 What about people who are going through chemotherapy right now?

01:32:09.620 What about people who are in the hospital about to die?

01:32:13.080 What about those people?

01:32:13.940 And so when I see Jimmy Kimmel going out there and saying he had a near-death experience because

01:32:17.200 his show was off the air for a few days, what a slap in the face to people actually going

01:32:20.660 through things.

01:32:21.320 Number two, Jimmy Kimmel is not funny, right?

01:32:23.660 Jimmy Kimmel has never had a funny joke.

01:32:25.400 He's not a real comedian.

01:32:26.580 He's a partisan hack, sort of like Stephen Colbert, right?

01:32:29.100 He's running, what, a $40 million deficit at his show?

01:32:32.060 If you think he was a conservative, would they keep him on the air?

01:32:34.760 Absolutely not.

01:32:35.520 But Jimmy Kimmel gets a pass because it's ABC, it's Disney.

01:32:38.780 All the special interests love Jimmy Kimmel.

01:32:40.600 They'll push any pharmaceutical product and do what they have to do on air every single

01:32:44.060 day.

01:32:44.400 But Jimmy Kimmel, it's interesting.

01:32:45.860 You can tell he's lived a charmed life, a pretty easy life, because this is the worst

01:32:50.280 thing that's ever happened to him, getting a three or four day vacation, you know?

01:32:54.320 Then he made a comment on stage in which he ripped on Trump.

01:32:59.220 I don't even totally get it.

01:33:01.300 He called him Donald Jennifer Trump.

01:33:03.860 Like, what even is that?

01:33:05.460 Is he trying to, like, say Trump is trans?

01:33:07.420 Like, are you allowed to make fun of trans people when you're-

01:33:10.960 Yeah, that's their new go-to.

01:33:12.640 Right?

01:33:13.020 I'm not sure that's allowed.

01:33:14.560 And then there's the voice of reason, Conan O'Brien, who was part of a discussion at the

01:33:20.560 Oxford Union and said this the other day, SOT 20.

01:33:24.000 I think some comics go the route of, I'm going to just say F Trump every, all the time, or

01:33:35.360 that's their comedy.

01:33:36.460 And I think, well, now a little bit, you're being co-opted because you're so angry.

01:33:41.300 You've been lulled.

01:33:42.540 It's like a siren leading you into the rocks.

01:33:44.320 You've been lulled into just saying F Trump, F Trump, F Trump, screw this guy, you know.

01:33:52.300 And I think you've now put down your best weapon, which is being funny, and you've exchanged

01:33:59.000 it for anger.

01:34:01.640 It's pretty amazing.

01:34:02.820 He's clearly taking aim in particular at the three late night hosts, Fallon less so, but

01:34:07.740 definitely Colbert and Kimmel, and the loser, Seth Meyers, 100%, not to mention John Oliver,

01:34:14.140 all of whom do exactly that and only that.

01:34:18.040 Well, John Oliver, I can't stand.

01:34:19.720 In about every three or four weeks, John Oliver will put a picture of me up on screen and make

01:34:23.800 fun of me, and my liberal friends will text me and say, John Oliver just called you this,

01:34:27.440 and John Oliver called you that.

01:34:28.600 I said, why is his staff so concerned with what I have going on?

01:34:31.660 Maybe you guys should go and write some jokes and some good material.

01:34:34.440 Maybe he likes you, Link.

01:34:35.600 Maybe there's someone in that writer's room who does because they constantly put my picture

01:34:40.580 on.

01:34:40.980 Well, thank you.

01:34:41.300 You really are.

01:34:41.780 You look very handsome.

01:34:42.640 Your new wardrobe.

01:34:43.420 Your hair's looking good.

01:34:44.360 You're very famous now.

01:34:47.760 Well, thank you.

01:34:48.900 But we're working on the lighting, okay?

01:34:51.440 I'm not that ghostly in person.

01:34:53.240 We're going from maybe 4,500 Kelvin down to 30.

01:34:56.180 We're working on it, people.

01:34:57.520 Okay, good.

01:34:58.160 When it comes to comedians, Conan O'Brien is a real one.

01:35:01.460 Conan O'Brien follows me on Instagram.

01:35:03.020 I would love to have him on the podcast to discuss this very issue.

01:35:06.260 All the great comics are going into conservative areas and touring red states now because they

01:35:10.720 go and play these liberal crowds in Los Angeles.

01:35:12.980 You go to like the comedy store.

01:35:14.380 Nobody will laugh.

01:35:15.540 Nobody will laugh.

01:35:16.520 You have to take everything so seriously.

01:35:18.480 It's like we used to have Joan Rivers back in the day and people who could really push

01:35:21.720 the boundaries and push the envelopes.

01:35:23.720 And that's what comedy was supposed to be.

01:35:25.580 Late night comedians weren't supposed to be partisan hacks who were pushing political agendas,

01:35:29.500 right?

01:35:30.120 They were supposed to call out both sides and be funny and boisterous and all of the

01:35:33.620 above.

01:35:34.120 But Jimmy Kimmel, I don't think he'll be on air much longer either.

01:35:37.440 Stephen Colbert, I think he's already been canned.

01:35:39.720 And the others, does anyone watch?

01:35:41.500 Does anyone care?

01:35:42.100 Yeah.

01:35:42.460 Not really.

01:35:42.800 I mean, of course, it's all turned into like one big Trump bashing session out in Hollywood.

01:35:46.660 We know that.

01:35:47.500 But it's not just on camera.

01:35:49.240 It's behind the camera.

01:35:50.600 When people are auditioning for their roles, they have to make clear they hate Trump if they

01:35:55.680 want to get cast in anything major in Hollywood.

01:35:58.260 Rob Schneider, who's amazing and also a comedian who used to be on Saturday Night Live, knows

01:36:03.920 of what he speaks.

01:36:04.860 And he talked about this just the other day.

01:36:07.460 Take a listen here.

01:36:08.080 Stop 30.

01:36:10.040 Show business, wrong or right, they don't want any controversy.

01:36:14.880 You know, they don't want you being mouthy or anything.

01:36:17.780 And that makes sense.

01:36:19.100 But I do think that at a certain point, if we're going to have a society and if we're

01:36:25.860 going to have continue to have a free society, it's going to require people to step up and

01:36:31.380 be courageous.

01:36:32.680 And, you know, this country still allows that.

01:36:35.980 It is our First Amendment right.

01:36:38.000 Does it make you free of consequences?

01:36:40.840 No.

01:36:42.000 You just, you know, you can ask Jimmy Kimmel, who was temporarily fired.

01:36:46.360 It's going to cost you.

01:36:47.980 And I think today's blacklisting of conservatives is the same thing.

01:36:52.600 I think it's at its core, it is adding to its destruction.

01:36:59.220 And I think you, we are seeing Hollywood completely dismantle itself.

01:37:05.740 That's an interview with the Epoch Times.

01:37:09.100 Right on, Rob Schneider, Link.

01:37:11.300 Rob Schneider has always been a real one.

01:37:13.560 Rob Schneider, Mike Binder, I don't know if you know him.

01:37:15.880 He's a great comedian as well.

01:37:17.100 On the Kennedy campaign, we put on this big comedy show fundraiser in downtown Los Angeles.

01:37:22.120 Rob Schneider came.

01:37:23.160 He performed.

01:37:23.840 He couldn't have been nicer.

01:37:24.960 I was backstage getting people drinks.

01:37:26.580 I think the comedians were mad.

01:37:27.740 We had like water and Gatorade.

01:37:29.160 They're like, where are the real drinks backstage?

01:37:31.340 We're like, this is a campaign event.

01:37:33.260 So no, they were like, where are the real drinks?

01:37:34.600 But Rob Schneider, he's always been a real one.

01:37:37.580 And he's not afraid to call out both sides.

01:37:40.120 And that's what comedians are supposed to do.

01:37:42.040 But it's interesting, in these writers' rooms, the reason Hollywood is going so downhill,

01:37:46.040 the reason you can't find anything good to watch on Netflix,

01:37:48.680 is they're capitulating to this small but vocal minority, right?

01:37:53.040 Most people, they're kind of in the middle.

01:37:55.040 They want to pay their bills.

01:37:56.220 They want a country that works for them.

01:37:57.900 They're not crazy, far-left, deranged people.

01:38:00.740 But when you turn on Netflix, they'll ruin every show by throwing in a bunch of characters

01:38:04.320 that don't fit together just to check boxes.

01:38:06.740 Like for me, right?

01:38:07.360 I'm gay, obviously.

01:38:08.820 I don't need to see a gay character in every single show.

01:38:11.200 I'll be watching like a historical film, and they'll like throw in a gay character,

01:38:14.580 sashaying in with a scarf.

01:38:15.800 And I'm like, this has nothing to do with the film that's going on.

01:38:18.580 So no, we don't need to check every single box.

01:38:20.620 And even I was having this conversation with some black friends of mine,

01:38:23.240 and they're in entertainment.

01:38:24.320 I spoke about this on my podcast.

01:38:25.560 They're like, we don't need to see ourselves in every single film.

01:38:28.840 It's okay to see different stories.

01:38:31.000 But if Hollywood doesn't start recognizing these states they like to fly over

01:38:34.460 between Los Angeles and New York, they fly over and look down on middle America,

01:38:38.080 if they don't prioritize those folks and realize they have checkbooks and wallets too,

01:38:41.940 and they're willing to go to the theater if you tell a good story,

01:38:44.560 they're going to get left behind.

01:38:45.980 And I think that's why Hillbilly Elegy really resonated,

01:38:48.560 and Sound of Freedom resonated, because they spoke to audience

01:38:51.260 that don't see themselves represented on Netflix or some of these streamers

01:38:54.920 are in movie theaters.

01:38:56.160 Yeah, and made J.D. Vance a star.

01:38:59.660 A huge star. Go ahead.

01:39:01.040 Absolutely.

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01:42:33.100 Okay, so Link,

01:42:34.220 this is the tale of two parties here.

01:42:36.520 You've got Donald Trump

01:42:37.760 with a very big announcement

01:42:39.340 saying that he is calling for a ban

01:42:42.280 on large institutional investors

01:42:45.000 buying single family homes.

01:42:47.080 This is revolutionary

01:42:48.240 because we've seen

01:42:49.960 these big,

01:42:51.400 huge corporate banks

01:42:53.660 buying huge swaths of homes

01:42:55.840 and making it a lot tougher

01:42:57.360 in some instances

01:42:58.140 for regular Joes

01:42:59.420 to be able to afford them.

01:43:00.820 He truthed out on Wednesday

01:43:02.100 for a very long time,

01:43:03.600 buying and owning a home

01:43:04.760 was considered the pinnacle

01:43:05.640 of the American dream.

01:43:06.680 It was the reward for working hard

01:43:08.040 and doing the right thing.

01:43:08.860 But now because of record high inflation

01:43:10.980 caused by Joe Biden and the Dems,

01:43:12.860 the American dream is increasingly

01:43:13.940 out of reach for far too many,

01:43:15.200 especially younger Americans.

01:43:16.180 For that reason and much more,

01:43:17.400 I'm immediately taking steps

01:43:18.480 to ban large institutional investors

01:43:20.360 from buying more single family homes.

01:43:22.680 And I will be calling on Congress

01:43:23.980 to codify it.

01:43:24.780 People live in homes,

01:43:25.680 not corporations.

01:43:26.720 I will discuss this topic,

01:43:27.860 including further housing

01:43:28.780 and affordability proposals

01:43:30.240 and more,

01:43:31.240 at my speech in Davos

01:43:32.500 in two weeks.

01:43:33.660 So he's worried about home ownership

01:43:36.760 and people not being able

01:43:38.060 to afford them.

01:43:39.000 And he is cracking down

01:43:40.400 in just the right place

01:43:41.620 on these corporate huge banks

01:43:43.840 that try to corner the market,

01:43:46.020 pricing individuals out.

01:43:48.080 Now, let's take a look over

01:43:49.700 at one of the most expensive cities

01:43:51.400 in the world, New York City,

01:43:54.320 where we have a new head

01:43:55.880 of tenant housing

01:43:57.120 named Sia Weaver.

01:44:00.580 And Sia says her goal

01:44:03.080 is to make housing worth less,

01:44:06.920 not cost less.

01:44:08.600 She's not interested

01:44:09.220 in helping homeowners

01:44:10.160 get home ownership,

01:44:11.200 which she thinks

01:44:11.800 is white supremacy.

01:44:13.560 She's made that clear.

01:44:14.640 The quote was,

01:44:15.580 it is important to impoverish

01:44:17.200 the white middle class.

01:44:18.460 That's her goal.

01:44:20.080 Quoting directly,

01:44:21.040 it is important to impoverish

01:44:22.560 the white middle class.

01:44:23.640 And home ownership is racist.

01:44:25.860 You see,

01:44:26.160 she doesn't like Donald Trump's plan.

01:44:27.520 She doesn't want to make it easier

01:44:28.600 for people to afford a home.

01:44:30.000 What she wants

01:44:30.740 is for the government

01:44:31.620 to own all the homes

01:44:33.480 and then they will decide

01:44:34.960 where you live

01:44:36.220 and where I live

01:44:37.120 and where everybody else lives.

01:44:38.860 And this can be hung around

01:44:40.320 the neck of Mayor Momdani

01:44:41.900 like an albatross

01:44:43.440 because he's made clear

01:44:44.960 Sia speaks for him

01:44:47.380 in a newly unearthed clip.

01:44:49.500 Take a listen here.

01:44:50.600 This is from 2021, Sot 27.

01:44:52.900 I would first of all,

01:44:58.380 you need to expand rent controls

01:44:59.980 to cover smaller buildings

01:45:02.000 and they need to be rent controlled.

01:45:03.400 And the reason why

01:45:03.980 they need to be rent controlled

01:45:04.980 is not because like rent control

01:45:06.580 is inherently socialist,

01:45:07.660 but because rent control

01:45:09.240 limits the speculative value

01:45:11.580 of the land.

01:45:12.680 Like our goal is to have

01:45:14.840 the housing actually be worthless

01:45:17.040 to some degree, right?

01:45:19.020 Like we don't want this

01:45:20.020 to be an investment vehicle.

01:45:21.000 We want it to be like

01:45:22.000 long-term stable homes.

01:45:23.800 We don't need people

01:45:24.460 to become millionaires

01:45:25.360 off their homes.

01:45:26.640 You know, I get most of my knowledge

01:45:27.860 on housing from Sia.

01:45:29.020 So if you get it from me,

01:45:30.300 it's just not coming from the source.

01:45:33.000 That's not good.

01:45:34.360 Your thoughts on Sia Weaver

01:45:36.220 and her media tour this week.

01:45:38.460 Many thoughts.

01:45:39.440 First off, thank you, President Trump, right?

01:45:41.760 When people want to be panic-ins

01:45:43.340 in the GOP right now

01:45:44.560 and say there's a bunch of infighting

01:45:46.160 and this and that,

01:45:47.140 President Trump, this is an issue

01:45:48.540 Republicans can win on

01:45:49.840 in the midterms.

01:45:50.900 It's something Democrats

01:45:51.800 have wanted for years,

01:45:53.120 independents and folks on the right.

01:45:55.020 We have to stop institutional investors

01:45:56.900 from coming in and buying homes.

01:45:58.600 If you do that

01:45:59.340 and you couple it

01:46:00.180 with mass deportations,

01:46:01.640 maybe young people

01:46:02.400 will be able to have

01:46:03.540 the American dream.

01:46:04.740 So I'm so happy

01:46:05.360 to see President Trump

01:46:06.120 tackling this

01:46:06.720 because I've said for years,

01:46:08.240 I've shouted it from the rooftops,

01:46:09.700 the thought of owning a home

01:46:10.840 is a distant fantasy

01:46:12.240 from my generation.

01:46:13.120 But it's not just Gen Z,

01:46:14.860 Gen Alpha,

01:46:15.400 and younger folks.

01:46:16.360 I hear from senior citizens.

01:46:17.840 I hear from baby boomers

01:46:18.860 and older who say

01:46:19.660 we're having to be

01:46:20.720 perpetual renters

01:46:21.720 because we can't afford

01:46:22.820 to have homes

01:46:23.420 and these are people

01:46:24.080 who've served,

01:46:25.500 been in America

01:46:26.220 their entire lives,

01:46:27.400 paid their dues

01:46:27.980 and paid their taxes.

01:46:28.920 So I'm happy

01:46:29.680 we're going to stop

01:46:30.240 private equity

01:46:30.780 from coming and buying homes.

01:46:32.380 Second,

01:46:32.980 I don't want to hear

01:46:33.840 from Zoran Mamdani

01:46:34.840 or any of his DEI picks

01:46:36.640 on housing, okay?

01:46:38.160 Reverse racism

01:46:39.040 is still racism, okay?

01:46:40.520 Excluding white people

01:46:41.520 on the basis

01:46:42.060 of their skin color

01:46:42.940 or their background,

01:46:43.980 that is still racism.

01:46:45.620 And I don't know

01:46:46.340 what folks are still doing

01:46:47.380 in New York City.

01:46:48.320 Unless you have to live

01:46:49.600 in New York City,

01:46:50.580 why are you still there?

01:46:51.760 We just saw Zoran Mamdani

01:46:53.300 and Kathy Hochul,

01:46:54.400 they lit up all these buildings

01:46:55.800 green for Muslim Pride Month

01:46:57.680 and Muslim Heritage Month.

01:46:59.000 They had the World Trade Center

01:47:00.420 lit up green

01:47:01.380 for Muslim Heritage Month.

01:47:02.680 I'll let you fill in

01:47:03.380 the irony there.

01:47:04.440 We're only 25 years on

01:47:05.700 from 9-11.

01:47:06.460 What happened to Never Forget?

01:47:07.900 Now we're lighting

01:47:08.440 the World Trade Center up

01:47:09.460 for Muslim Pride Month.

01:47:10.580 So I'm not Islamophobic.

01:47:11.940 I'm calling it like I see it.

01:47:13.540 If you're still in New York City,

01:47:14.700 if you're still in New York State,

01:47:15.920 I don't know what you are doing, okay?

01:47:17.960 But if you're going to come,

01:47:19.360 if you're going to come

01:47:20.040 to our red states,

01:47:21.100 don't bring your voting record, okay?

01:47:22.760 If you're fleeing

01:47:23.320 because of C.O. Weaver

01:47:24.360 and Mamdani,

01:47:25.200 don't come and vote blue

01:47:26.380 in Texas and Florida

01:47:27.440 and all these other states.

01:47:28.540 Just stay there.

01:47:29.860 Islamophobia is not a thing.

01:47:31.420 You are allowed to object

01:47:32.640 to the tenets of Islam.

01:47:34.160 It's a part religion,

01:47:35.700 part political doctrine,

01:47:36.940 and we are perfectly entitled

01:47:38.340 to comment on it favorably

01:47:39.820 or negatively

01:47:40.460 without being called

01:47:41.780 essentially a bigot.

01:47:42.760 Sorry, that's just the way it is.

01:47:44.060 Okay, let me keep going

01:47:45.280 because I really want

01:47:45.900 to get your thoughts

01:47:46.520 on Meghan Markle's

01:47:48.040 new cookbook.

01:47:49.420 In the same week,

01:47:50.660 we heard that her

01:47:51.500 11th publicist

01:47:53.140 in five years

01:47:54.260 quit

01:47:55.160 allegedly over the debacle

01:47:57.220 that happened

01:47:57.780 at the Kris Jenner

01:47:59.380 birthday party

01:48:00.280 where they

01:48:01.360 harassed the Kardashians

01:48:03.820 to take down

01:48:04.580 all the photos

01:48:05.420 of Harry and Meghan

01:48:06.240 because there was one

01:48:07.320 of Harry

01:48:07.760 leering at Kris Jenner's breasts.

01:48:10.200 That's my speculation.

01:48:11.060 I'm sure that was

01:48:12.600 part of the reason

01:48:13.220 and Meghan didn't look

01:48:14.220 good in the photos

01:48:14.800 so we never consented.

01:48:16.120 We want them down.

01:48:16.660 Anyway, this publicist said,

01:48:17.660 I am out of here.

01:48:18.340 I'm not dealing with these two.

01:48:19.700 Then we hear that Meghan

01:48:21.040 is releasing her first

01:48:22.560 solo cookbook link

01:48:24.040 in early 2026.

01:48:25.980 It's going to tie

01:48:26.940 her lifestyle brand

01:48:28.040 as ever

01:48:28.740 into, I guess,

01:48:30.500 her cooking

01:48:31.000 and Daily Mail reports

01:48:32.900 that the book

01:48:33.260 may include recipes

01:48:34.000 for her single skillet

01:48:35.160 spaghetti

01:48:35.680 which, by the way,

01:48:37.140 and rainbow-themed

01:48:38.080 fruit salad,

01:48:39.360 Maureen Callahan

01:48:40.380 and I made

01:48:41.640 both of those

01:48:42.620 only to find out

01:48:43.520 that the single skillet

01:48:44.520 spaghetti

01:48:44.940 was stolen

01:48:46.260 from Martha Stewart.

01:48:47.780 It's not even

01:48:48.320 her own recipe.

01:48:49.980 It's exactly the same.

01:48:51.620 There might be

01:48:52.060 like one tiny difference

01:48:53.280 so I wonder

01:48:54.240 whether she's going

01:48:54.840 to get sued

01:48:55.580 for a copyright infringement

01:48:56.960 if she actually tries

01:48:57.880 to pawn that off

01:48:58.640 in a cookbook

01:48:59.260 as her own.

01:49:00.500 Thoughts?

01:49:01.620 Oh, I have many thoughts.

01:49:03.000 I think the 11th

01:49:04.060 publicist leaving

01:49:04.960 tells us

01:49:05.600 there's real

01:49:06.380 trouble in paradise.

01:49:07.760 I think the publicist

01:49:08.560 would rather work

01:49:09.280 for like Katie Porter

01:49:10.300 than Meghan Markle.

01:49:11.120 I think Katie Porter

01:49:11.960 might be a cakewalk

01:49:13.080 as opposed to Meghan Markle

01:49:14.420 so I'm not shocked

01:49:15.540 to see the staff leaving.

01:49:17.140 Yeah, and I also think

01:49:17.920 maybe they don't pay

01:49:18.800 the staff that well.

01:49:19.960 I think also

01:49:20.400 they hire a bunch of people

01:49:21.540 to feel important, right?

01:49:22.860 If we have staff,

01:49:23.760 if we have an entourage,

01:49:24.780 we're really important

01:49:25.400 and then the staff realizes

01:49:26.760 there's not much

01:49:27.640 happening day to day.

01:49:28.640 These aren't people

01:49:29.120 getting up

01:49:29.580 and just hustling

01:49:30.380 from like eight to six

01:49:31.440 every day.

01:49:32.040 There's nothing happening

01:49:32.900 really at the compound.

01:49:33.900 There are days

01:49:34.300 where they don't do much

01:49:35.160 and so I'm not shocked

01:49:36.300 to see the people leaving.

01:49:37.520 The second thing

01:49:38.060 I'll say is

01:49:38.540 I don't need a cookbook

01:49:39.600 from Meghan Markle.

01:49:40.560 She can barely cook.

01:49:41.660 Okay, it's like

01:49:42.020 taking Driver's Ed

01:49:43.080 from Stevie Wonder

01:49:43.920 or Ray Charles.

01:49:44.820 Like you just don't want

01:49:45.420 to take cooking advice

01:49:46.380 from Meghan Markle

01:49:47.460 and then all she can do

01:49:48.860 is she moves pretzels

01:49:50.000 from one bag

01:49:50.800 into another.

01:49:51.700 Okay, that's not skill.

01:49:53.880 Is that a recipe?

01:49:55.420 Can we count that

01:49:55.960 as a recipe?

01:49:57.360 Exactly, exactly.

01:49:58.320 So she can only move

01:49:58.960 pretzels from one bag

01:49:59.840 into another.

01:50:00.680 She makes rainbow

01:50:01.660 fruit platters.

01:50:02.820 Let me also say this.

01:50:03.820 I heard from so many women

01:50:04.900 and mothers who were like

01:50:05.800 we don't have time

01:50:07.260 when we're getting

01:50:07.860 our kids ready for school

01:50:09.140 to do rainbow

01:50:10.200 color coordinated

01:50:11.300 fruit platters, right?

01:50:12.260 We're trying to get

01:50:12.720 the kids out the door.

01:50:13.800 Is the homework done?

01:50:14.760 Do you have the slip

01:50:15.400 you need for class?

01:50:16.380 Because Meghan has staff

01:50:17.940 and rich celebrities

01:50:18.760 in Montecito,

01:50:19.640 Los Angeles have full-time

01:50:20.740 staffs and nannies,

01:50:21.940 they can get up

01:50:22.700 and leisurely make

01:50:23.540 a rainbow fruit platter.

01:50:24.600 If I came downstairs

01:50:25.900 as a kid

01:50:26.560 and my mom was making

01:50:27.820 a rainbow fruit platter

01:50:28.820 before school,

01:50:29.500 I would say,

01:50:30.160 who died?

01:50:31.060 Are you on speed?

01:50:32.260 What's going on?

01:50:32.960 Like I would think

01:50:33.520 something bad would happen

01:50:34.480 if I came down

01:50:35.140 and my mom was whipping up

01:50:36.280 a rainbow fruit platter

01:50:37.340 color coordinated

01:50:38.600 in the morning.

01:50:39.480 I'm like,

01:50:39.900 has she turned into monk?

01:50:41.060 What's going on?

01:50:41.920 So Meghan Markle,

01:50:42.820 I think this cookbook

01:50:43.880 is a final grift.

01:50:45.360 Like she's really reaching.

01:50:47.180 I'm sure she'll get

01:50:47.820 a big advance

01:50:48.600 and it'll be great.

01:50:49.760 So happy for her.

01:50:51.340 Oh, I mean,

01:50:52.040 Maureen and I,

01:50:53.160 we did the fruit platter.

01:50:54.820 And we had somebody

01:50:55.860 do the shopping

01:50:56.700 and it took hours.

01:50:58.620 We're going to drop

01:50:59.020 a clip in here

01:50:59.600 for the podcast listeners.

01:51:01.060 All right.

01:51:01.620 So this is just what I do.

01:51:02.680 I just whip this up

01:51:03.420 in the morning.

01:51:03.980 You could do this

01:51:04.360 with one small row

01:51:05.320 for your kids for breakfast.

01:51:06.680 Ideally in your white cashmere.

01:51:08.420 It's just fruit.

01:51:09.460 It's just presented

01:51:10.580 in a different way.

01:51:11.960 An early rise

01:51:13.180 might really help

01:51:14.300 like three or four.

01:51:16.560 It's a real delight

01:51:17.360 in being able

01:51:17.980 to be a present parent.

01:51:19.480 With the nanny.

01:51:20.560 Right, right.

01:51:21.080 Of course, of course.

01:51:22.060 You've got to be able

01:51:22.660 to just like go

01:51:23.480 with the flow

01:51:23.980 when you're a working mom.

01:51:25.720 You'll have to work.

01:51:26.580 We all have a lot

01:51:27.300 of stuff to do.

01:51:28.320 If you literally have

01:51:29.720 seven hours

01:51:31.000 to devote

01:51:31.540 to your breakfast charcuterie,

01:51:33.680 you're going to wow them.

01:51:35.000 This is gorgeous.

01:51:36.580 It's so sweet.

01:51:38.540 Nailed it.

01:51:40.380 Nailed it.

01:51:41.880 It took hours

01:51:43.020 and we made the spaghetti.

01:51:44.280 The whole thing's a joke.

01:51:45.160 I mean,

01:51:45.320 if she makes money

01:51:45.920 off of that

01:51:46.400 and actually does

01:51:47.160 get a big advance,

01:51:48.240 it will truly underscore

01:51:49.940 how absurd

01:51:50.800 the publishing industry

01:51:51.700 has become.

01:51:53.080 All right.

01:51:53.940 Last but not least,

01:51:55.440 a clip came to our attention,

01:51:57.060 Link Lauren,

01:51:57.700 a clip from your show.

01:51:59.500 And it was about

01:52:01.240 your New Year's resolutions.

01:52:03.980 And we want to show this

01:52:04.940 to the audience

01:52:05.460 in SOT32.

01:52:07.800 If you're feeling bad

01:52:08.920 about not reinventing yourself

01:52:10.200 this year,

01:52:10.700 don't worry.

01:52:11.640 Meghan Markle will debut

01:52:12.780 an entirely new personality,

01:52:14.400 company,

01:52:15.440 or life story by February

01:52:16.800 so she's got us all covered.

01:52:18.620 Really,

01:52:19.320 you're doing fine.

01:52:20.680 And you know,

01:52:21.000 there's always that one friend,

01:52:22.040 okay?

01:52:22.880 There is always

01:52:23.740 that one friend

01:52:24.660 who says,

01:52:25.500 I'm going to be kinder

01:52:26.380 this year.

01:52:27.040 I'm going to show up.

01:52:28.300 I've changed my ways.

01:52:29.760 Sweetie,

01:52:30.280 you downloaded

01:52:30.940 one Mel Robbins podcast.

01:52:32.640 Cut the crap, okay?

01:52:33.560 You bought one self-help book.

01:52:35.340 There's always that one friend

01:52:36.520 who thinks that

01:52:37.560 this is their

01:52:38.160 eat, pray, love year.

01:52:39.820 This is the year

01:52:40.420 they're really going to transform

01:52:41.760 and be kinder

01:52:42.820 and be better.

01:52:43.500 And then they're back

01:52:44.500 being a miserable troll

01:52:45.480 in about five days.

01:52:46.400 Okay, so listen,

01:52:47.360 I'm not judging.

01:52:48.220 It takes a village.

01:52:49.360 But if you've been a bitch

01:52:50.520 the last 20 years,

01:52:51.880 why change now?

01:52:54.120 Okay.

01:52:54.940 I love it.

01:52:55.980 All very good advice.

01:52:57.120 Okay.

01:52:57.360 But later in the show,

01:52:58.520 you ask the audience

01:52:59.640 to weigh in

01:53:00.540 on the sweater.

01:53:02.260 And I would like

01:53:03.300 to officially do that

01:53:04.160 and say,

01:53:04.800 I'm against it.

01:53:05.960 It has the feel

01:53:06.980 of somebody reaching

01:53:07.960 for like your boob

01:53:09.380 in the movie theater.

01:53:10.620 You know,

01:53:11.520 like for the listening audience,

01:53:12.640 it's got like

01:53:12.980 what looks like a hand

01:53:13.840 across a sweater

01:53:14.720 that is green and black

01:53:16.680 and then like a white hand

01:53:18.380 reaching across,

01:53:19.300 reaching for like a boob

01:53:20.480 or the shoulder.

01:53:21.780 And therefore,

01:53:22.460 I'm against it

01:53:23.020 because it reminds me

01:53:23.680 of middle school.

01:53:27.120 So the sweater

01:53:28.340 is not going to be

01:53:29.620 brought back out

01:53:30.400 unless it's a recurring character

01:53:31.940 like the Wickless Candle.

01:53:33.440 Okay,

01:53:33.620 I keep

01:53:34.160 Megan Markle's Wickless Candle

01:53:36.680 on my desk

01:53:37.640 because it's a recurring character.

01:53:39.020 I'm glad it doesn't have a SAG card.

01:53:40.700 It might start charging me.

01:53:41.900 But no,

01:53:42.180 the sweater is going to stay

01:53:43.280 in the closet

01:53:44.060 and I don't care

01:53:45.040 about looking ridiculous.

01:53:46.080 I thought,

01:53:46.400 okay,

01:53:46.480 this is so terrible.

01:53:48.120 I'm going to wear it

01:53:49.160 and let me just ask them

01:53:50.240 how much they hate it.

01:53:51.420 Like a few weeks ago,

01:53:52.500 I wore this insane purple shirt

01:53:55.000 and it ended up being

01:53:56.300 one of our biggest episodes.

01:53:57.580 I think we got like

01:53:58.040 four or 5,000 comments

01:53:59.220 on that episode.

01:54:00.220 Half of them were like,

01:54:01.180 we like the shirt,

01:54:02.400 we don't like the shirt

01:54:03.680 and I bought the shirt myself.

01:54:05.340 It's not like anyone sent it to me.

01:54:06.460 I didn't even say

01:54:06.980 the brand of it.

01:54:08.020 But no,

01:54:08.360 that sweater was a Christmas gift

01:54:09.700 and I know on Christmas morning,

01:54:11.400 everybody has related to this,

01:54:12.740 okay,

01:54:13.060 on Hanukkah,

01:54:14.060 Kwanzaa,

01:54:14.560 whatever you celebrate,

01:54:15.560 you open a gift

01:54:16.480 and you hate it

01:54:17.680 but you have to go like,

01:54:18.660 oh my God,

01:54:19.700 thank you.

01:54:20.080 You turn into an Academy Award winning actor

01:54:22.100 on Christmas morning.

01:54:23.360 Thank you so much for this sweater.

01:54:24.900 I thought,

01:54:25.320 I don't care if I look ridiculous.

01:54:26.940 I know they're going to have

01:54:28.040 heated opinions

01:54:29.160 over this sweater.

01:54:30.160 Here's what you need to say

01:54:30.960 when somebody gives you

01:54:31.620 a gift like that

01:54:32.240 and it's,

01:54:32.900 I love this line

01:54:33.620 because it's true

01:54:35.000 but it's also somewhat subversive,

01:54:38.040 okay,

01:54:38.420 and it's not insulting.

01:54:40.240 I could not love this anymore.

01:54:44.400 That is what you say

01:54:45.860 when you get the terrible gift.

01:54:47.760 I could not love it anymore.

01:54:49.780 I like,

01:54:50.860 it is honestly,

01:54:52.700 I couldn't,

01:54:54.020 trust me,

01:54:54.460 I could not.

01:54:55.120 Now,

01:54:55.420 one of the reasons I raise this with you

01:54:57.160 is because we had our own sweater gate

01:54:58.960 here at the MK show.

01:55:00.660 It wasn't,

01:55:01.100 didn't play out on the air

01:55:01.980 or with the audience

01:55:02.720 but it's about to.

01:55:04.160 So every day before we go on,

01:55:06.120 I sit down in the chair

01:55:07.460 and I can see my executive producer,

01:55:10.940 Steve Krakauer

01:55:11.460 and my executive producer for news,

01:55:12.660 Debbie Murphy

01:55:13.200 on my little Zoom camera

01:55:15.300 which is right underneath

01:55:16.280 my real camera.

01:55:17.480 Sometimes the audience will see me

01:55:18.540 looking not into camera

01:55:19.580 but looking down

01:55:20.300 because on the screen

01:55:21.440 below the camera

01:55:22.100 we play the sound bites

01:55:23.080 and I can see them better

01:55:23.860 because it's a big,

01:55:24.500 big camera

01:55:25.280 and I can see Steve and Debbie there

01:55:26.880 and so that's helpful

01:55:28.300 for the anchor

01:55:28.820 to just figure out

01:55:29.500 the traffic of the show

01:55:30.340 and what's happening

01:55:30.960 and sometimes they're talking

01:55:31.620 to me in my ear.

01:55:32.640 Anyway,

01:55:33.260 I see them sitting there

01:55:34.560 and I sat down

01:55:36.400 mid-December

01:55:37.760 getting ready to do a show

01:55:39.420 and Steve Krakauer,

01:55:42.460 he's been my EP

01:55:43.440 from the beginning of the show

01:55:44.400 and we've been friends

01:55:44.880 since forever,

01:55:46.920 is wearing what to me

01:55:48.360 from this distance

01:55:49.060 because I'm about maybe,

01:55:49.780 I don't know,

01:55:50.280 15 feet away from the camera,

01:55:52.220 looked like a strapless shirt.

01:55:56.520 It looks,

01:55:57.200 he's a heterosexual man,

01:55:59.040 he's very happily married with kids.

01:56:00.460 Look at this

01:56:00.860 and I took a picture

01:56:02.260 of this link with my camera.

01:56:03.860 Does it not look like

01:56:04.740 he is naked from the shoulder up

01:56:06.120 in this little screen grab?

01:56:07.200 I don't know if you can see.

01:56:08.140 Absolutely.

01:56:08.540 And there's Canadian Debbie

01:56:09.680 laughing at him

01:56:10.960 on screen,

01:56:11.740 right?

01:56:11.840 Let's run through

01:56:12.840 a few of the screen grabs

01:56:14.620 so if we have them.

01:56:16.140 Yeah,

01:56:16.460 there's another one

01:56:17.360 and I'm like,

01:56:18.480 Steve,

01:56:19.040 what are you wearing?

01:56:20.380 What are you wearing?

01:56:21.080 He had no idea

01:56:21.420 and we were going to have

01:56:22.540 a staff meeting that day.

01:56:23.640 Here's me taking a picture.

01:56:24.840 You can see me in it

01:56:25.760 taking a picture of the staff.

01:56:27.280 So we were going to have

01:56:27.700 a staff meeting that day

01:56:28.460 and I'm going to tell you,

01:56:30.060 Link,

01:56:30.200 that he actually put on

01:56:31.240 a jacket before the staff meeting

01:56:33.220 because we so shamed him

01:56:34.780 out of this ridiculous sweater

01:56:37.000 because it was like,

01:56:38.520 for the listening audience,

01:56:39.340 like peach,

01:56:40.420 I think peach,

01:56:41.360 Steve,

01:56:41.540 I'm sorry,

01:56:42.180 and then a stripe of blue

01:56:43.340 and then peach

01:56:44.320 and then blue

01:56:44.840 and the peach looked naked

01:56:46.740 like Steve Krakauer

01:56:47.980 went strapless

01:56:49.260 for the Megyn Kelly show

01:56:50.860 that day.

01:56:51.680 Does that sweater stay

01:56:52.840 or does it go?

01:56:54.340 That goes in the same bin

01:56:56.040 as my sweater.

01:56:57.020 No, it's got to go.

01:56:57.580 I will say,

01:56:58.180 when I stand up,

01:56:59.280 the sweater is not as terrible.

01:57:00.720 I think there's this

01:57:01.960 big fashion account

01:57:02.920 that breaks down

01:57:03.620 like Melania's outfits

01:57:04.840 and Princess Catherine's

01:57:06.140 and we use their stuff

01:57:07.240 all the time

01:57:07.880 and he did a full thing

01:57:09.300 on like where the sweater

01:57:10.340 was from

01:57:10.880 and the full picture

01:57:11.660 and I said,

01:57:12.240 I feel like I've kind of

01:57:13.300 made it now

01:57:13.780 because this account

01:57:14.680 is talking about

01:57:15.600 this horrific sweater

01:57:16.760 but no,

01:57:17.540 it is not coming back out

01:57:19.060 except as like a gag,

01:57:20.320 you know,

01:57:20.560 like the candle.

01:57:21.900 Wait, Steve,

01:57:22.440 what happened to the sweater?

01:57:24.400 Asking now.

01:57:26.040 It's retired,

01:57:27.020 he says.

01:57:27.480 It's a shame.

01:57:27.760 Okay, good.

01:57:29.280 Just took a little

01:57:30.260 good old-fashioned shaming.

01:57:32.480 You know,

01:57:32.720 like the world has to do

01:57:33.540 what it's going to do.

01:57:34.040 This is why I'm in favor

01:57:34.860 of shaming.

01:57:35.400 This is why I don't like

01:57:36.100 principals screening

01:57:37.140 somebody's valedictorian speech.

01:57:38.600 Like if they say

01:57:39.180 something stupid,

01:57:40.340 they have to be subjected

01:57:41.360 to the wrath

01:57:42.640 of the masses out there

01:57:44.080 that teach them

01:57:45.440 the old-fashioned way

01:57:46.540 what to say,

01:57:47.960 what not to say,

01:57:48.840 what the bounds

01:57:49.500 of society will allow.

01:57:50.860 And so that's laws

01:57:53.040 of natural consequences

01:57:53.920 which is why,

01:57:55.200 yeah,

01:57:55.580 there should be feedback

01:57:57.040 on sweaters and the like

01:57:58.820 and we shouldn't be shy about it.

01:58:00.300 It's like a,

01:58:01.280 it's our duty as friends.

01:58:03.620 Absolutely.

01:58:04.160 No,

01:58:04.280 we need to bring back shame

01:58:05.420 in 2026.

01:58:06.300 I think the girls

01:58:06.920 were getting a little

01:58:07.640 too shameless in 2025,

01:58:09.540 all these thoughts out here

01:58:10.800 and people,

01:58:11.300 the way they were behaving.

01:58:12.360 So we need to bring back

01:58:13.600 a little bit of shame.

01:58:15.280 Like I was at a restaurant

01:58:16.020 the other night

01:58:16.620 and we didn't go out

01:58:17.420 on New Year's

01:58:17.860 but we did like a nice

01:58:18.800 date night,

01:58:19.740 fancy restaurant

01:58:20.300 I think on like

01:58:20.820 the second or the third.

01:58:22.340 Some of the outfits

01:58:23.260 walking into the restaurant

01:58:24.660 and it is cold.

01:58:25.840 These girls are wearing nothing.

01:58:27.040 These girls are wearing nothing

01:58:27.940 and I said,

01:58:28.760 do you remember

01:58:29.560 before it was socially acceptable

01:58:31.280 to come to a restaurant

01:58:32.300 with your vagina out?

01:58:33.580 Like how,

01:58:34.000 how are you in here

01:58:35.020 with this outfit?

01:58:35.840 So we need to bring back

01:58:37.060 a little shame.

01:58:37.940 I don't want to eat

01:58:38.240 next to exposed vag.

01:58:39.940 That is not appetizing

01:58:40.580 for any of us.

01:58:42.520 I said,

01:58:43.160 I know we're at a Japanese restaurant.

01:58:44.560 I don't need to see

01:58:45.320 your California roll.

01:58:46.220 Like it was,

01:58:46.880 there was a lot going on

01:58:47.940 so I didn't need

01:58:49.240 to see that actually.

01:58:50.540 It was confirmation

01:58:51.480 of I'm gay.

01:58:52.840 By the way,

01:58:53.440 we also should like,

01:58:54.320 we got to crack down

01:58:54.900 on the crying men.

01:58:55.820 Have you ever seen

01:58:56.240 so many crying men

01:58:57.060 in the news?

01:58:58.180 Like a lot of crying

01:58:59.380 by news men

01:59:00.520 just this week alone,

01:59:02.000 Link.

01:59:02.240 What do you make of that?

01:59:04.120 It's interesting

01:59:04.880 because on the one hand

01:59:05.900 it's like,

01:59:06.220 okay,

01:59:06.600 nice that a guy

01:59:07.740 can cry every once in a while

01:59:08.980 but I'm old school.

01:59:10.120 I don't need to see

01:59:11.000 grown men crying

01:59:11.860 all the time.

01:59:12.560 I think Kelly Catrone,

01:59:13.600 this like publicist

01:59:14.380 in New York

01:59:14.780 used to have this phrase,

01:59:15.720 if you have to cry,

01:59:16.700 go outside.

01:59:17.700 You know,

01:59:17.940 all these crybabies

01:59:18.860 in the workplace

01:59:19.480 and there are Gen Zs

01:59:21.020 who are bringing

01:59:21.520 their parents

01:59:22.200 to job interviews.

01:59:23.260 Like they're 24 years old

01:59:24.400 bringing their parents

01:59:25.040 to job interviews.

01:59:26.020 Everyone needs to grow up,

01:59:27.180 okay,

01:59:27.700 and man up too.

01:59:28.760 Okay,

01:59:28.900 we need more alphas

01:59:29.780 in this world.

01:59:30.380 Like I want Delta Force

01:59:31.560 looking guys.

01:59:32.500 I want those guys

01:59:33.260 who went and snatched up Maduro.

01:59:34.980 I don't want crybabies

01:59:36.360 who are,

01:59:36.780 you know,

01:59:36.920 I think a lot of these men

01:59:38.180 and I hate to say it,

01:59:39.100 women might get mad at this

01:59:40.020 but I was having a conversation

01:59:41.120 with a friend.

01:59:41.560 I think it's social media.

01:59:43.380 Is it the hormones

01:59:44.060 and the chicken?

01:59:45.180 I think men these days

01:59:46.220 like have a period also.

01:59:47.820 Like men,

01:59:48.180 it's like I see so many guys

01:59:49.400 now it's like

01:59:49.820 even my girlfriends

01:59:50.640 will be like,

01:59:50.980 I think he's on his like

01:59:51.880 man period

01:59:52.620 because they're just

01:59:53.160 emotional and angry

01:59:54.580 and it's up and down.

01:59:55.740 It's got to change.

01:59:56.100 I just asked Jesse about this.

01:59:57.480 Jesse Kelly,

01:59:57.960 I'm like is it the microplastics?

01:59:59.800 Is it like,

02:00:00.740 what is it?

02:00:01.400 The water?

02:00:02.280 Like the chemicals

02:00:02.800 in the water?

02:00:03.180 The sunscreen?

02:00:04.360 Because I do miss real men.

02:00:05.940 I want real men.

02:00:06.800 I agree with you.

02:00:07.480 Like Delta Force,

02:00:08.160 that'd be great

02:00:08.720 but just not crying all the time

02:00:10.880 on camera as a male anchor,

02:00:12.540 I would take that too.

02:00:13.840 We talked about Tony Dokopoul yesterday

02:00:15.800 and the weird crying

02:00:17.060 in a clip that he put out.

02:00:18.620 He put out.

02:00:19.320 He wanted us to see him cry.

02:00:21.200 That's what's so weird.

02:00:22.120 It's even worse

02:00:22.800 than the Philip Bump thing

02:00:23.740 we just showed

02:00:24.200 because at least he was live

02:00:25.120 on the air.

02:00:25.860 Tony Dokopoul was in

02:00:26.880 a taped interview with somebody

02:00:28.060 and like started to tear up

02:00:29.760 about the fact

02:00:30.180 that he didn't get

02:00:30.780 to grow up in Miami.

02:00:32.400 It wasn't like,

02:00:33.280 I said like the whole family

02:00:34.520 died in a house fire.

02:00:35.460 Not that.

02:00:35.960 No, it was I didn't get

02:00:36.940 to live there.

02:00:39.400 Repeatedly wiping the eye

02:00:40.460 and then the other eye

02:00:41.160 and then back to the first eye

02:00:42.120 and back to the other eye

02:00:43.080 and like choking up

02:00:44.100 in the throat

02:00:44.820 and couldn't get the words out.

02:00:46.000 It was embarrassing

02:00:46.920 but I will tell you

02:00:48.100 I did get a little insight

02:00:49.340 on what he's doing

02:00:51.420 last night.

02:00:52.840 All right,

02:00:53.020 we played this clip yesterday

02:00:54.100 so it was from the day before.

02:00:55.940 Then last night

02:00:56.900 he went out

02:00:58.020 and tried to do

02:00:58.640 a little summary

02:00:59.860 of what's happening

02:01:00.820 in Minneapolis.

02:01:02.320 Like I guess this is

02:01:03.120 going to be his thing

02:01:03.960 and I realized something

02:01:05.920 about his thing

02:01:07.000 that put the crying

02:01:08.000 in perspective.

02:01:09.700 Watch,

02:01:10.020 watch what he did last night.

02:01:10.940 Okay.

02:01:12.400 But our job now

02:01:13.480 is maybe the most

02:01:14.280 American thing of all.

02:01:15.820 It's to find a way

02:01:16.960 to live with people

02:01:18.040 who are genuinely

02:01:19.080 different from us

02:01:20.240 to try to be fair to them

02:01:21.940 and in doing so

02:01:23.080 to make things better

02:01:24.220 and keep things decent.

02:01:26.780 Because in America

02:01:27.740 no one else

02:01:28.660 is going to do it for us.

02:01:30.440 It's not my job

02:01:31.400 to tell you what to think

02:01:32.280 about what happened

02:01:32.980 here yesterday

02:01:33.560 but I can tell you

02:01:34.540 we owe our children

02:01:35.440 a nation that is better

02:01:37.060 than the one

02:01:37.700 we live in today

02:01:38.680 and I can say that

02:01:40.140 because we all know

02:01:41.740 it's true.

02:01:44.660 Okay.

02:01:45.580 So what's happening here

02:01:46.800 Link is he's

02:01:47.660 trying to be Oprah.

02:01:49.640 Now it all makes sense.

02:01:51.680 He's trying to offer

02:01:52.600 fake profundities

02:01:53.520 that move no one

02:01:54.540 and are actually

02:01:55.480 not original

02:01:56.140 or meaningful at all

02:01:57.420 and peppering in

02:01:59.040 some like

02:01:59.740 self-help talk

02:02:01.460 you know

02:02:02.400 kumbaya

02:02:03.300 hugging type stuff

02:02:04.740 in between

02:02:06.080 his crying fits

02:02:07.620 because he's

02:02:08.840 telegraphing

02:02:09.780 Oprah.

02:02:10.980 He's Topra.

02:02:12.560 That's what he's

02:02:13.480 trying to do

02:02:14.020 with the CBS

02:02:14.620 Evening News

02:02:15.280 and like

02:02:16.820 Oprah's show

02:02:18.180 now

02:02:18.580 the days

02:02:19.780 it will fail.

02:02:21.220 Like

02:02:21.360 this is no way

02:02:22.900 to appeal

02:02:23.800 I think he wants

02:02:25.000 American women

02:02:25.820 because we all

02:02:27.340 like the Delta Force

02:02:28.380 thing.

02:02:29.140 Only far left

02:02:30.340 liberal women

02:02:31.220 like a crying

02:02:32.540 Topra.

02:02:33.540 Right.

02:02:33.840 And men

02:02:34.520 certainly don't like that

02:02:35.780 but I figured out

02:02:36.920 the formula

02:02:37.360 and this is

02:02:38.160 apparently

02:02:38.540 the new bet

02:02:39.340 on the future

02:02:39.920 of CBS News.

02:02:40.980 Thoughts on that?

02:02:42.520 Well it's interesting

02:02:42.980 I think it's a

02:02:43.460 generational thing

02:02:44.220 because I don't

02:02:45.020 really know

02:02:45.520 who a lot

02:02:46.080 of these people

02:02:46.740 are.

02:02:47.000 I mean when I

02:02:47.300 see these

02:02:47.640 palace intrigue

02:02:48.400 stories about

02:02:48.980 all of these

02:02:49.500 networks now

02:02:50.100 I'm like

02:02:50.360 I actually

02:02:50.800 don't know

02:02:51.280 who these

02:02:51.560 people are.

02:02:52.080 I wish you

02:02:52.380 guys well

02:02:52.920 but I just

02:02:53.480 have never

02:02:53.820 heard of

02:02:54.240 some of

02:02:54.540 these

02:02:54.680 anchors

02:02:55.060 and even

02:02:55.340 my friends

02:02:55.720 like we

02:02:56.240 don't know

02:02:56.460 who this

02:02:56.760 is either

02:02:57.160 so you

02:02:57.620 know shout

02:02:58.000 out to

02:02:58.560 everyone

02:02:58.800 over there

02:02:59.180 I wish

02:02:59.440 them well

02:02:59.780 but a

02:03:00.280 friend of

02:03:00.520 mine

02:03:00.620 gave me

02:03:00.920 advice

02:03:01.200 years ago

02:03:01.600 she said

02:03:02.040 if you

02:03:02.460 want to

02:03:02.620 be taken

02:03:02.940 seriously

02:03:03.340 in politics

02:03:03.840 you cannot

02:03:04.640 cry on

02:03:05.600 camera

02:03:05.920 like if

02:03:06.240 you lose

02:03:06.620 an election

02:03:07.040 especially

02:03:07.400 as a woman

02:03:07.880 you can't

02:03:08.600 cry at

02:03:08.980 your concession

02:03:09.540 speech

02:03:10.020 Hillary

02:03:10.480 Kamala

02:03:11.120 okay

02:03:11.520 Doug

02:03:11.980 Imhoff

02:03:12.380 so it's

02:03:12.760 like if

02:03:12.960 you ever

02:03:13.320 want to

02:03:13.540 be taken

02:03:13.820 seriously

02:03:14.120 you cannot

02:03:14.680 cry

02:03:15.140 on camera

02:03:15.760 I don't

02:03:16.120 need to

02:03:16.380 see grown

02:03:16.780 men

02:03:16.960 crying

02:03:17.340 you know

02:03:17.640 maybe

02:03:17.920 after

02:03:18.220 sex

02:03:18.640 with a

02:03:18.960 cigarette

02:03:19.200 but no

02:03:19.560 I don't

02:03:20.060 want to

02:03:20.280 see you

02:03:20.660 on camera

02:03:21.180 crying

02:03:21.740 either

02:03:22.020 nowhere

02:03:23.020 around

02:03:23.500 sex

02:03:23.900 should

02:03:24.120 a man

02:03:24.400 ever

02:03:24.700 cry

02:03:25.060 no

02:03:25.620 absolutely

02:03:26.480 I have

02:03:26.780 to call

02:03:27.080 my mom

02:03:27.600 afterward

02:03:28.080 no I'm

02:03:28.540 just kidding

02:03:28.800 but yeah

02:03:30.220 no I don't

02:03:31.140 need to see

02:03:31.520 grown men

02:03:32.100 cry

02:03:32.720 and I really

02:03:33.500 don't need to

02:03:33.860 see a ton

02:03:34.120 of women

02:03:34.400 crying

02:03:34.680 either

02:03:34.920 we have

02:03:35.760 to run

02:03:36.020 it again

02:03:36.360 can we

02:03:36.660 run the

02:03:36.960 crying

02:03:37.260 video

02:03:37.600 just to

02:03:37.920 get like

02:03:38.120 I need

02:03:38.840 to see

02:03:39.080 it just

02:03:39.320 before we

02:03:39.640 go to

02:03:39.860 weekend

02:03:40.220 you said

02:03:41.560 this is

02:03:41.920 your favorite

02:03:42.360 place

02:03:42.880 in the

02:03:43.420 world

02:03:43.640 why

02:03:44.080 why

02:03:44.680 South

02:03:45.000 Florida

02:03:45.220 and

02:03:45.400 Miami

02:03:45.720 it makes

02:03:50.200 me emotional

02:03:50.740 it's so

02:03:51.120 funny

02:03:51.740 I didn't

02:03:52.060 think

02:03:52.540 it would

02:03:52.680 catch

02:03:52.880 you know

02:03:53.520 because you

02:03:59.860 only have

02:04:00.140 one childhood

02:04:00.740 right

02:04:01.040 so

02:04:01.320 right

02:04:03.460 let me get

02:04:03.840 a second

02:04:04.160 here

02:04:04.320 I can

02:04:05.560 relate

02:04:05.860 this is

02:04:06.220 home

02:04:06.480 the wiping

02:04:09.280 the wiping

02:04:10.200 people will

02:04:11.020 to help

02:04:12.000 people understand

02:04:12.520 why I have

02:04:12.880 such a reaction

02:04:13.480 yeah

02:04:14.740 help us

02:04:15.440 more wiping

02:04:18.000 and

02:04:21.080 Florida

02:04:21.680 Florida

02:04:21.700 is where

02:04:22.180 I grew

02:04:23.020 up

02:04:23.420 more wiping

02:04:27.920 we didn't get

02:04:28.180 a lot of

02:04:28.420 sleep

02:04:28.580 my grandmother

02:04:30.620 is here

02:04:31.120 my father

02:04:31.900 my mother

02:04:32.420 my aunts and

02:04:33.520 uncles

02:04:33.820 cousins

02:04:34.520 and it's

02:04:36.400 where I

02:04:36.780 would have

02:04:37.240 spent all

02:04:37.860 of my

02:04:38.120 childhood

02:04:38.420 but we

02:04:38.780 left

02:04:39.160 because my

02:04:41.660 father got

02:04:42.600 in trouble

02:04:43.040 with business

02:04:43.580 it's like

02:04:44.080 we laugh

02:04:44.520 about it

02:04:44.840 now but

02:04:45.320 he was a

02:04:45.680 drug dealer

02:04:46.260 but the

02:04:47.000 reason it's

02:04:47.320 so emotional

02:04:47.800 for me

02:04:48.340 is because

02:04:49.660 I feel like

02:04:51.420 I was robbed

02:04:52.020 of the full

02:04:52.720 Miami experience

02:04:56.160 so when I come

02:04:57.520 back I'm always

02:04:58.040 like

02:04:58.280 he was

02:05:00.960 he was robbed

02:05:02.400 of the full

02:05:03.280 Miami experience

02:05:04.780 link

02:05:05.120 that is like

02:05:06.040 you and me

02:05:07.040 going down

02:05:07.700 there and

02:05:08.260 forgetting to

02:05:08.720 have a cocktail

02:05:09.380 poolside in

02:05:10.780 the 24 hours

02:05:11.460 we have on

02:05:11.940 business

02:05:12.280 that's a

02:05:12.840 conversation

02:05:13.220 we didn't

02:05:13.760 get the full

02:05:14.160 Miami experience

02:05:15.160 but he's

02:05:16.060 crying about it

02:05:16.820 40 years later

02:05:17.960 and then tweeting

02:05:19.440 out the clip

02:05:20.320 because he wants

02:05:21.120 us to see

02:05:21.760 how topra he is

02:05:23.120 yeah no I

02:05:24.760 all I can say

02:05:25.420 is I don't

02:05:26.120 think you guys

02:05:26.560 will ever see

02:05:27.200 me crying on

02:05:27.900 camera even

02:05:28.480 if I discuss

02:05:29.000 something serious

02:05:29.820 or sad

02:05:30.460 there's a high

02:05:31.460 probability that

02:05:32.300 I hold it

02:05:32.720 together and I

02:05:33.480 don't need to

02:05:33.940 see grown men

02:05:34.480 crying on the

02:05:35.300 news either

02:05:35.880 I think these

02:05:36.460 networks should

02:05:36.940 just focus on

02:05:38.020 reporting the

02:05:38.580 news right

02:05:38.940 focus on telling

02:05:39.600 us what's going

02:05:40.160 on we actually

02:05:40.940 don't need all

02:05:41.500 the ancillary

02:05:42.280 information and

02:05:43.500 anecdotes right

02:05:44.320 I used to watch

02:05:45.000 the news and I

02:05:45.460 didn't know

02:05:45.680 anything about

02:05:46.200 their personal

02:05:46.660 lives just tell

02:05:47.400 me what's

02:05:47.640 happening in

02:05:48.220 the country

02:05:48.640 what if

02:05:49.820 Meghan Markle

02:05:51.140 and Prince

02:05:51.640 Harry get

02:05:52.040 accepted back

02:05:52.860 into the royal

02:05:53.360 family and

02:05:54.640 somehow he

02:05:55.700 becomes king

02:05:56.360 I think you

02:05:57.080 shed a tear

02:05:57.480 I would

02:05:58.060 first off I

02:06:00.640 think the

02:06:00.960 British people

02:06:01.580 would revolt

02:06:02.540 number two

02:06:03.160 Prince Harry is

02:06:03.840 lazy so he

02:06:04.460 wouldn't last

02:06:04.920 but two days

02:06:05.380 I don't think

02:06:05.860 that'll ever

02:06:06.480 ever ever

02:06:07.160 happen but

02:06:08.060 maybe I

02:06:08.440 would shed a

02:06:09.000 tear then if

02:06:09.560 he was like if

02:06:10.320 he becomes royal

02:06:11.260 again before me

02:06:12.280 because apparently

02:06:13.260 there is some

02:06:13.760 open vacancies

02:06:14.560 like you know

02:06:15.500 some of the

02:06:16.340 members are

02:06:16.760 dropping they're

02:06:17.320 losing their

02:06:17.700 title so if he

02:06:18.460 becomes royal

02:06:19.000 again before I

02:06:19.740 do I'm gonna

02:06:20.060 be real upset

02:06:20.760 I've paid my

02:06:21.580 dues I've done

02:06:23.080 there could be a

02:06:25.500 debate about

02:06:25.920 whether if you

02:06:26.340 wear that

02:06:26.640 sweater again

02:06:27.180 tears will be

02:06:28.200 shed at some

02:06:29.000 place on the

02:06:29.560 internet but

02:06:30.120 we'll wait and

02:06:30.600 see we will

02:06:31.040 tune in to

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The Megyn Kelly Show - January 09, 2026

Leftists Spin False ICE Shooting Narrative, Grown Men Crying, and Conan O'Brien Slams Political Comics, with Jesse Kelly and Link Lauren ｜ Ep. 1227

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