The Megyn Kelly Show - October 02, 2026


Letitia James Starts "Cornell 7" Witch Hunt, and JD Vance's Important Comment on Men, with Sean Davis and Sohrab Ahmari | Ep. 1411

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00:00:42.580 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.
00:00:46.120 We have breaking news this morning on the Cornell 7 case. New York Governor Kathy Hochul,
00:00:53.280 who, I mean, this woman is a joke. 1.00
00:00:57.120 I cannot believe that she is governor
00:00:58.980 of one of the greatest states in the union. 1.00
00:01:00.800 She is a pathetic, feckless, weakling activist 1.00
00:01:05.880 who is such an offense to me and to womankind. 1.00
00:01:10.620 I just, I cannot believe she is the governor of New York. 1.00
00:01:14.020 And she's now appointed someone even more abhorrent 0.89
00:01:18.160 and hateful than she is, Letitia James, 0.72
00:01:22.080 our attorney general in New York, as special prosecutor in this case.
00:01:26.860 And what that means is these boys are effed.
00:01:31.120 That's what it means.
00:01:32.320 Because the original DA in Ithaca, New York,
00:01:36.460 who was going to take this to a grand jury and let a jury in Ithaca
00:01:40.180 decide whether charges were appropriate, P.S., they're not,
00:01:45.160 has now had this case stolen from him and given to a partisan hack.
00:01:51.100 Letitia James of Trump indictment fame, of Trump harassment fame, the one who tried to bankrupt him
00:02:01.280 and said she had her eyes on his building, was basically salivating at the thought
00:02:06.380 of taking his hard-earned fortune away from him back when he was in his downtime between
00:02:13.760 his two presidential terms. She's a villain. I've got more on her for you in a second.
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00:03:24.880 slash mk for 20% off your first purchase. But first, there's a lot happening. A stunning report
00:03:31.820 in the New York Times that reveals what the Chi-Fi fraternity brothers told university investigators.
00:03:38.920 Four of the seven admitted to sexual contact with the alleged victim. We knew that. There were three
00:03:46.840 threesomes over the course of the evening involving a total of four men. Then there are
00:03:53.240 seven total. So there are three other men who were in that room at some point that night,
00:03:59.040 but did not have sex with this woman and are denying anything non-consensual. And so are the
00:04:08.620 ones who did the three threesomes with her. They're all saying that there was nothing that was
00:04:16.360 non-consensual. To the contrary, they are saying she did consent. And the majority of those
00:04:23.440 interviewed during this proceeding also said that Jane Doe did not even appear intoxicated.
00:04:30.680 One fraternity brother, Jillia Lopes, whose attorney appeared on this show yesterday,
00:04:36.040 and yes, it is Lopes, spelled L-O-P-E-S, said that it was the alleged victim who initiated
00:04:41.900 sexual contact with him without his consent that it was not asked for. And I'm not sure whether
00:04:51.680 he's claiming he didn't, he didn't, he didn't consent. He's just saying she didn't ask for it,
00:04:56.080 according to the New York Times. But you didn't hear any of that from this morning's press
00:05:01.580 conference with Hochul and James and not just, I mean, you didn't hear about any of the exonerating
00:05:07.700 information about these boys. Here's Hochul describing what she says happened. And according
00:05:14.160 to new reports, she could not have been clearer that she was 100 percent confident that she had
00:05:19.920 been raped. Yet, shockingly, those words never made it into the account that the Cornell police
00:05:28.120 sent to prosecutors. The attorney general then declined to pursue charges after reviewing that
00:05:34.980 incomplete account and never interviewing her. Think about that. In what world would the police
00:05:42.480 learn from a victim that she'd been literally gang raped while intoxicated by five men in a
00:05:49.080 fraternity house and not elevate those allegations to the district attorney? In what world does the
00:05:55.780 district attorney not even interview her or anyone else involved or even request the full
00:06:01.320 transcript. This woman, this young woman, had already endured something that is utterly
00:06:09.120 unspeakable. And that at every turn, she has failed by people and institutions
00:06:14.600 with an obligation to protect her. Way to keep an open mind, you utter hack.
00:06:22.300 This is so irresponsible for the governor of the state in which these boys are now almost
00:06:28.360 certainly going to get charged to be using rhetoric like that, announcing in advance that
00:06:34.560 she's the victim, that the system had an obligation to protect her and it failed. 1.00
00:06:39.020 Fuck off, you absolute hack. This is so irresponsible. Imagine your son gets accused 1.00
00:06:47.160 by somebody on a college campus and the governor of the state comes out and announces him guilty
00:06:53.740 before there's even been a grand jury impaneled.
00:06:57.180 This is so wrong.
00:07:00.220 Despite being selective with how she describes the case,
00:07:04.660 Hochul promises us, promises us that Letitia James,
00:07:10.100 she's super ready to follow the facts.
00:07:13.360 Watch this.
00:07:14.300 And that is why I'm invoking the power conferred to me
00:07:17.000 as the governor of the state of New York
00:07:18.320 to enlist Attorney General James
00:07:20.820 as an independent special prosecutor in this case.
00:07:24.820 She'll follow the facts.
00:07:26.620 She'll examine the evidence and go wherever it leads.
00:07:30.480 And if the evidence supports criminal charges, she will pursue them.
00:07:35.320 No institution gets to protect its reputation
00:07:38.940 at the expense of a young person seeking justice.
00:07:43.340 No public official gets to look the other way
00:07:46.160 when the system breaks down and fails our young people.
00:07:50.820 Okay. First of all, how tall is Tish James? She looks like Andre the Giant next to a little
00:07:55.680 Lilliputian. That visual was actually kind of shocking. Honestly, Kathy Hochul looks like she's 0.98
00:08:02.500 about four foot nine and Tish James looks like, what's his name? The basketball player who's so
00:08:11.100 web something. He's so tall. He's like seven foot four and he's still growing. It's great.
00:08:16.380 I don't when by Yama, thank you. Bizarre physical dynamic, whatever. So Hochul did not have a good
00:08:24.160 answer. You'll be shocked to learn, learn on why, why on earth Tish James can be trusted to fairly
00:08:33.040 helm this case, given that she, Tish James, has already pronounced these young men guilty. Hold
00:08:41.120 on. This is what she said. Okay, before we play the soundbite of the reporter asking Hochul,
00:08:47.260 this is what A.G. James posted last week, I think, or within the past few days.
00:08:53.120 Quote, what this young woman has been forced to endure is horrific. Forced? What do you,
00:09:00.200 she's got her mind made up and unacceptable. I'm holding her in my heart and in my prayers. What 1.00
00:09:06.640 if she is a liar, Ms. James? What if you should be holding the young men in your heart? Because
00:09:12.800 while they definitely behaved promiscuously that night, and the ones who joined in that text were
00:09:18.840 gross, it is very uncertain whether any single one of them violated the sex laws in any way,
00:09:26.920 shape, or form. Why aren't you holding them in your heart in prayers? To her and to all survivors,
00:09:35.040 You're not alone.
00:09:36.020 We stand with you.
00:09:37.600 Explicitly, I stand with her. 1.00
00:09:41.620 This is so fucked up. 1.00
00:09:43.560 This is so fucked up. 1.00
00:09:45.160 That's the woman who's now going to decide whether charges are brought against the Cornell 7. 1.00
00:09:51.280 The fix is in.
00:09:52.780 These guys are effed.
00:09:55.180 And here's one honest reporter.
00:09:57.100 We tried to figure out who it was, but couldn't.
00:09:58.700 who actually asked Kathy Hochul and James how they can possibly be fair given their statements
00:10:05.840 around this case. Attorney General, on your Facebook page three days ago, you wrote,
00:10:10.980 what this young woman has been forced to endure is horrific and unacceptable. I'm holding her in
00:10:15.360 my heart and in my prayers. To her and to all survivors, you're not alone. We stand with you.
00:10:20.460 Why did you affirm her allegations as fact without doing your own fact-finding investigations as a
00:10:26.600 Governor, why did you appoint an official who made a public statement
00:10:30.820 affirming those allegations as fact, as someone who's supposed to be doing an investigation?
00:10:36.480 I will answer that.
00:10:37.620 I have every confidence in our attorney general to do what she has always done.
00:10:42.660 Look at the facts, examine the record, and draw the proper conclusions.
00:10:46.540 That's exactly what's going to happen in this case.
00:10:49.360 Attorney General, please.
00:10:50.300 I will not comment on a Facebook post.
00:10:53.360 Oh, but you'll make the Facebook post.
00:10:55.320 You're the one who made the Facebook post. 0.92
00:10:57.380 She's acting like, oh, just some random person on X said something controversial.
00:11:02.020 Why would I why would I comment on that? 0.97
00:11:03.840 You got on there, Tish James, and rushed to judgment before we'd even convened a grand jury before the D.A. had even gotten that grand jury going in Ithaca, New York.
00:11:14.900 What do you mean?
00:11:15.540 Oh, you're taking the high road.
00:11:16.800 I will not comment.
00:11:17.720 But you made the Facebook post, so you must comment on it.
00:11:20.660 You have revealed that you have chosen a side in this case.
00:11:26.500 A prosecutor's obligation is to seek justice, not to choose one side or the other when we are at the allegation phase.
00:11:34.680 It's to seek justice.
00:11:36.160 And if justice requires no charges be brought or even charges that have been brought get dropped, that's what a prosecutor's ethical obligation is. 0.89
00:11:45.660 Or she could be disbarred. 0.96
00:11:48.600 She could actually be disbarred.
00:11:50.260 Ask Mike Nifong. We talked about him yesterday, the DA in the fake Duke rape case.
00:11:55.880 Why did he lose his license? Because he did not seek justice at every turn as evidence of
00:12:00.620 exoneration of the boys. Not just that would cast doubt on their guilt, but actual exoneration,
00:12:05.580 like I mentioned to you yesterday, with the five different men's seamen inside of this woman,
00:12:10.040 having no connection to Duke La Crosse. Any sane prosecutor, never mind an ethical one,
00:12:15.620 would have dropped the case.
00:12:17.440 Instead, he didn't.
00:12:18.580 He lost his law license.
00:12:20.240 He served a day in jail over this.
00:12:22.300 That's where I'd love to see you, Tish James.
00:12:24.580 By the way, how are your multiple mortgages
00:12:27.080 for your multiple homes that you claimed
00:12:29.100 were all your primary residence? 1.00
00:12:31.920 She's a dishonest hack. 1.00
00:12:34.080 She's worse than that governor 1.00
00:12:35.280 who walked around for two years with 1.00
00:12:37.420 vaxxed in gold on her necklace, 0.99
00:12:40.180 who only got the job because sex pervert Cuomo 1.00
00:12:43.440 got forced out of office. 1.00
00:12:45.620 That's the only reason Kathy Hochul became our governor. 0.95
00:12:48.340 She is respected by no one. 0.91
00:12:52.080 Yes, she won re-election since then.
00:12:55.940 The fix is in. 1.00
00:12:57.920 These guys' gooses are cooked. 1.00
00:13:00.880 And this case now, I mean, I guarantee you, 0.99
00:13:05.220 because Jane Doe, it's actually an interesting legal question. 0.88
00:13:10.540 Can Tish James bring the criminal charges in Manhattan?
00:13:14.640 That's what I was going to say. 0.99
00:13:15.380 I guarantee you to be brought in Manhattan where she can get a far left jury or must she bring them in Ithaca, New York, if she brings them at all where the crime took place?
00:13:22.200 Because the plaintiff is now in New York.
00:13:25.380 I know what the rule would be civilly. 0.98
00:13:27.180 She could bring it here because the plaintiff's here.
00:13:29.360 Criminally, I think it has to be brought in the jurisdiction in which the alleged crime happened.
00:13:32.380 So she'd have to go up to Ithaca, which is a more conservative place than Manhattan.
00:13:37.700 This is now this is my territory.
00:13:41.000 This is where I lived, not Ithaca, but Syracuse and Albany.
00:13:44.120 That's all upstate New York, that stretch across from west to east.
00:13:49.560 And I've spent many, many years of my life there.
00:13:51.840 And trust me when I tell you that is what that area of New York and portions of Staten
00:13:59.700 Island and Long Island are what make New York sometimes elect Republican governors.
00:14:04.900 There are Republicans in the state of New York, same as there's like Orange County Republicans
00:14:09.380 in California.
00:14:10.580 There's not a ton, but there's enough that every, you know, we used to have Pataki.
00:14:14.260 As you know, we've had a couple of governors and state legislators who are Republican because of that territory.
00:14:20.880 So she's not going to like Ithaca, New York.
00:14:23.820 You know, these kids have at least a shot up there, though it's not terrific. 1.00
00:14:28.040 She's a rabid, fire-breathing hack whose only mission will be to put these kids in jail for the rest of their lives.
00:14:37.820 I am very worried for them. 1.00
00:14:41.460 I am seriously concerned for these seven young men who appear to have engaged in a night of debauchery, sent out in the case of one or two of them fucking stupid, offensive text messages. 1.00
00:14:56.020 Hello, spend a day on X. 1.00
00:14:58.760 I challenge you not to find multiple of those.
00:15:01.060 and now are about to stare down the possibility of decades in prison because of those two
00:15:08.020 women. And here's more. This is Tish James last night on the case just hours before
00:15:16.760 she was appointed special prosecutor in this case. So let me just say my heart goes out to
00:15:23.380 the victim, the survivor. And I stand with her and all individuals who unfortunately
00:15:29.980 have been the victims of sexual assault. And we look forward to the outcome and to ensure that,
00:15:36.420 in fact, justice is served and there's accountability for the survivor.
00:15:41.280 It's done. Their goose is cooked. She just said it explicitly. She stands with the survivor.
00:15:46.600 Her heart is with the survivor, and she's going to find justice for the survivor.
00:15:51.460 For the survivor. Okay, the survivor, the survivor herself, after the alleged encounter, had multiple texts, including one while she had a conversation with her big sister at the sorority, October 21st, two days after the alleged assault, telling her big sister, there are rumors circulating that I'm a slut, added with a laugh. 0.94
00:16:19.160 Unfortunately, they are true. 0.94
00:16:22.040 That's the quote survivor.
00:16:24.960 The same day, defendant number two, John Newell, the one who wrote the disgusting text, free P word upstairs, texted her.
00:16:33.360 I just wanted to apologize for how things went down.
00:16:36.140 Then he said that both he and defendant number one, Matthew Ingalls, who she was at Chi Phi to see, felt terrible for being too under the influence of drugs and alcohol to shut it down and kick people out before it got way out of hand.
00:16:47.920 She responded, at the end of the day, none of the sexual stuff was illegal.
00:16:53.260 None of it.
00:16:54.200 This is the accuser, the survivor.
00:16:57.080 And honestly, I really liked being with you and Matt.
00:17:00.300 She really liked her threesome.
00:17:03.480 We could go on and on with these, but there are multiple, multiple texts by her.
00:17:11.480 Probably the worst one is the one that happened on October 23rd.
00:17:14.920 23rd. Now we are two, three days. The assault, the alleged assault happened overnight from the 19th
00:17:21.620 to the 20th. And here we are on the 23rd. And she texted defendant number one, Matthew Ingalls,
00:17:25.660 the one she showed up at Chi-Fi to see. He was involved in the first and the third threesome
00:17:29.500 saying, bro, everyone knows I'm incredibly stressed out. Somebody told my friends,
00:17:34.820 I don't know what to say. And this is ruining my life temporarily. My reputation is destroyed.
00:17:39.020 I'm utterly ashamed. All I do is sleep and cry all day. She's having the regrets. It happens,
00:17:43.400 especially when you behave like she did, Matt responds saying that nonsense spreads fast at
00:17:49.160 this school. You have nothing to be ashamed of. And then she responds, you're right. It'll get
00:17:53.900 better. And then says, everyone needs to grow up because sexuality and sex and blank. It's probably
00:18:01.880 fucking because all the redactions are done by the news organizations who don't repeat swears 0.98
00:18:06.300 is changing. Everyone needs to grow up because sexuality and sex and blank is changing and stuff 0.99
00:18:13.100 like this is going to become more common. I'm also really open-minded though, then to her alleged
00:18:19.620 rapist who participated. Don't, don't forget. They will tell you, you know, maybe the first one
00:18:25.400 was consensual. That's not what her team is saying. They're saying everything was non-consensual,
00:18:29.500 but the first one you heard her say, I really like being with you, John Newell and Matt Ingalls.
00:18:36.320 This is Matt Ingalls. Okay. Matt Ingalls was part of the third threesome too. And that's the one
00:18:40.380 they really want you to zero in on.
00:18:42.020 She'd done so much ketamine by that point,
00:18:43.800 she'd lost all ability to control.
00:18:45.640 She couldn't possibly have consented.
00:18:47.900 And what does she say to her rapist?
00:18:50.000 This is her alleged rapist who was involved
00:18:51.880 not only in the first one, but the third one,
00:18:53.420 the most controversial one, the third one,
00:18:55.520 after all the ketamine had been given to this young woman
00:18:58.340 who now, after the fact, says to him, and I quote,
00:19:01.280 I love you, King.
00:19:04.300 I love you, King.
00:19:07.360 This is after she defended.
00:19:09.280 Everyone needs to grow up because sexuality and sex is changing and stuff like this is
00:19:15.080 going to become more common.
00:19:16.380 I'm also really open minded, though, making clear, OK, others may disagree with me, but
00:19:21.460 I'm totally cool with this because I'm this progressive leftist who's probably listening
00:19:25.680 to the disgusting vile call her daddy podcast who's telling young women from coast to coast 0.75
00:19:31.980 that they should spread their legs for any man that wants them and there will be no consequences. 1.00
00:19:37.700 F these people. 1.00
00:19:39.200 F that woman and her messaging and the young women who got manipulated by her into thinking this is what female empowerment looks like. 0.99
00:19:48.760 It's stomach turning to me.
00:19:51.300 She's a hero, this woman.
00:19:52.780 The head of this podcast, the woman who does it, Alex Cooper.
00:19:56.080 A hero to the left. 1.00
00:19:57.900 Who's all these big leftist women and celebrities who go on that podcast and talk? 0.95
00:20:02.320 It's so fun.
00:20:03.300 This is the woman who's influenced, young woman like Jane Doe.
00:20:07.020 guess what there are real life consequences to behaving in the way this woman did and she put
00:20:14.220 it in writing everyone needs to grow up sexuality and sex are changing and stuff like this is going
00:20:20.640 to become more common but i'm also really open-minded i love you king to her all night long
00:20:29.200 rapist the one who brought all the guys in the one she was there at kai fi to see she loves him
00:20:36.740 Not to mention what happened days later when Kai-Fai had a Halloween party coming up.
00:20:44.260 And by her own admission, she was very excited to go. 0.61
00:20:49.460 She was very excited to go back and see her alleged gang rapists. 1.00
00:20:55.500 Everyone thinks I'm a slut. Unfortunately, it's true. 1.00
00:20:58.940 Nothing that happened was illegal.
00:21:01.680 I really liked being with you two.
00:21:03.520 People have got to adjust their attitudes because sex and sexuality are changing.
00:21:08.340 I guess I'm really just open-minded.
00:21:10.380 I love you, King.
00:21:11.560 I can't wait to go back to Chi-Fi for the Halloween party.
00:21:15.240 Then the president of the fraternity called her up and said, don't come. 0.99
00:21:18.640 And that is when she got pissed.
00:21:21.260 That is the day the narrative started changing. 0.53
00:21:24.100 In the meantime, her co-ed roommates were chatting her up saying, this was rape.
00:21:28.820 We've seen this 10,000 times on university campuses. 1.00
00:21:31.580 The nannering roommates. 1.00
00:21:35.760 It was rape. 1.00
00:21:38.440 You just don't appreciate your trauma. 0.77
00:21:41.200 No, she doesn't.
00:21:42.840 She doesn't.
00:21:45.820 And now the cherry on top of the sundae, 1.00
00:21:50.300 the rabid Tish James gets appointed your special prosecutor, 1.00
00:21:55.700 and this woman is going to let them fry. 1.00
00:21:59.160 her king who she loves 1.00
00:22:02.920 she now wants locked up
00:22:05.060 for the majority of his adult youth
00:22:07.260 all of them
00:22:08.420 she in her complaint is accusing 1.00
00:22:10.800 even the last three who did not have sex with her 1.00
00:22:13.240 of raping her 0.99
00:22:14.140 it's outrageous 1.00
00:22:15.560 this is spinning out of control
00:22:19.180 we are in the middle of a moral panic
00:22:22.860 cooler heads
00:22:25.040 must prevail
00:22:26.200 and pump the brakes on this
00:22:27.980 witch hunt lynching that is being done of these young men without due process or any fairness 1.00
00:22:36.420 by the American media, which now is trotting out the bullshit, very tired, much torn down 0.99
00:22:46.140 quote statistics about how one in four university women gets raped. These are lies. These are lies. 1.00
00:22:56.780 I'm going to go through it with you, but these are damned lies meant to increase your rage 0.99
00:23:03.380 against the defendants here, most of whom couldn't even legally have a drink when she 0.97
00:23:11.520 began these allegations against them, most of whom were, as if not more, effed up as
00:23:19.700 Jane Doe on the night in question, and yet they all want to rush to save Jane Doe.
00:23:25.680 suddenly everyone is pro patriarchy everyone the patriarchy has an obligation to protect her from
00:23:33.300 the guys at sigma or at chi phi to the criminal justice system where the laws now have to be 0.99
00:23:40.880 changed that's the latest push we have to change the law because the law in new york they know is 1.00
00:23:47.100 no good for her if you get hammered and then have sex and later claim you didn't consent because you 1.00
00:23:52.940 were too hammered to consent. If you consumed the alcohol voluntarily, you can't bring charges.
00:23:59.560 You're not going to be able to make a rape case. That's her scenario. So now they want to change
00:24:04.460 the law to anybody who's voluntarily drunk or involuntarily intoxicated, like someone slipped
00:24:09.880 them a Mickey, can be the victim, the accuser, or the civil complainant in a rape or a sexual
00:24:18.000 assault case. Guess what that's going to do? Don't send your child to college. Don't allow
00:24:23.340 your male child to go to college or to ever have sex before he's married. Every single woman with 1.00
00:24:29.700 a Sunday morning regret induced by alcohol fueled sex that she's then embarrassed about.
00:24:38.240 Every single one of those women will be converted into a victim, whether they want to be or not. 1.00
00:24:42.620 There are feminist writings about this issue because sex pest Cuomo tried to close this so-called loophole. 1.00
00:24:52.920 It's not a loophole in the rape laws. 1.00
00:24:55.160 It's by design to recognize female empowerment and the ability to make decisions to drink and to have a romp in the hay. 1.00
00:25:05.400 You can thank the leftist feminists for that. 1.00
00:25:08.020 It's not a loophole. 1.00
00:25:08.880 It's there by design and also to recognize that we would be expanding the scope of the criminal law beyond any measure of containment.
00:25:20.440 If we were to allow criminal charges to be brought against any man who had sex with a drunk woman, because you are now rolling out the red carpet for that woman to say she was raped, if she can prove she was drunk, she can say she didn't consent.
00:25:33.280 That's a rape.
00:25:34.780 There's a reason the law says that guy will have had to slip her a mickey in order for us to consider that rape. 1.00
00:25:41.540 Or a woman who proves that she is physically helpless. 0.98
00:25:46.500 That's the legal standard. 0.98
00:25:47.960 Whether she did it to herself or the man did it to her, she can be a rape victim. 0.92
00:25:52.760 But if you just tied one on because you wanted to get whatever going that night, as a woman, you're allowed to do that?
00:26:01.880 And previously, the law in New York State was we will not treat you like an infant who's incapable of getting hammered and then going to bed with a guy or four. 0.96
00:26:14.000 Because that's not how we view women in contemporary America.
00:26:18.080 Now, Kathy Hochul and the likes of her Chuck Schumer, from the look of his statement, want that undone. 0.96
00:26:24.620 So women are going to be treated like little babies who cannot make their own decisions 1.00
00:26:28.380 unless they're at a frat house, in which case the patriarchy better step up and take care of her. 1.00
00:26:36.760 This isn't about decency.
00:26:38.020 I'm raising my boys to stand up, to look out for women, to be chivalrous,
00:26:43.900 to, if they see a situation like this, be what they call in the grade schools an upstander instead of a bystander.
00:26:50.200 However, that's different from whether we are prepared to criminalize, criminalize it.
00:26:58.400 And that's what they want. 0.98
00:26:59.900 They want men who refuse to be our daddies when we are drunk and having sex based on our own choices. 1.00
00:27:08.380 Men who refuse to be our daddies and step in there and say, get off of her, leave her alone. 1.00
00:27:13.340 I'm going to escort her back to the tried out house.
00:27:15.860 They now are going to be villainized.
00:27:20.360 And they know better.
00:27:22.540 You see, they know better.
00:27:24.360 Because a man who, when we women go to him and we say, hey, we had a couple drinks, want to get it on?
00:27:31.700 I've taken off my clothes and gone up to your room in a fraternity house. 1.00
00:27:34.820 Men who say, cool, they're fucked. 1.00
00:27:38.740 That's it. 1.00
00:27:39.240 They can kiss their freedom goodbye if this law changes in New York, as is now the push.
00:27:43.420 And by the way, Cuomo tried to push this through.
00:27:45.980 It passed the Senate, didn't get a vote in the Assembly.
00:27:47.960 It got renewed in June of 26.
00:27:49.840 passed the Senate, didn't get a vote in the assembly because there's one holdout who won't
00:27:53.760 do it. There are tons of lobbyists pushing him not to allow it. And it's all defense lawyers
00:27:59.800 because they know exactly what this is going to do to every male defendant who has sex with a
00:28:07.340 woman who might regret the sex. This is an outrage. The whole thing is an outrage. Everything that
00:28:14.140 has happened in the connection with this case is an outrage. What's being done to these boys is
00:28:18.200 deeply wrong, it is morally wrong, and it's about to get legally wrong. Joining me now for reaction,
00:28:24.000 our U.S. editor of UnHerd, Sarabha Mari, and CEO and co-founder of The Federalist, Sean Davis.
00:28:30.080 I'm so lit up over this whole thing. I mean, you tell me, Sean, am I wrong? These guys are effed
00:28:39.200 now that Tish James is taking this thing over. No, I don't think you're wrong at all. And what's
00:28:44.680 interesting is how differently people are processing this versus, say, the rape hoax
00:28:49.800 that Rolling Stone tried several years ago, or the way people initially approached the Duke
00:28:55.140 lacrosse hoax allegations. In those, that took a long time and a lot of effort to get people to
00:29:02.140 come and understand the truth. I mean, it took years to get Nifong in Durham disbarred and to 0.95
00:29:07.440 get those boys' names cleared and to get compensation. The Rolling Stone rape hoax, 0.97
00:29:12.000 That took probably weeks, maybe months to actually get unwound and shown to be a fake.
00:29:17.780 This story took, what, a day, maybe two days before everyone with the brain looked at it and understood that it was a total joke.
00:29:25.280 And I understand that right now that's probably not great solace for the people who are being falsely accused again because I agree with you.
00:29:35.900 I think they're screwed because they have a prosecutor now in New York who's hellbent on putting them in jail.
00:29:41.120 She's out there before she's looked at a single fact before having read a single text, obviously saying they're guilty. 0.78
00:29:46.540 So it's little solace to them.
00:29:48.760 I actually am a bit heartened by watching how quickly and vociferously and vehemently people have come out against this, noting it's an absolute hoax.
00:29:58.480 And I'll just be very clear here. We have got to stop doing this thing where people make terrible, deliberate, fully clear decisions about what to do sexually, feel bad about it rightfully because being a slut and being a hoe is shameful behavior and no one should be doing it. 0.94
00:30:15.680 And then retconning the whole thing days later when they realize, oh, that thing that I thought was going to make me cool has actually made me a pariah and then deciding, oh, it must have been rape. 0.99
00:30:25.140 This sort of nonsense has to be eradicated from society because what this is actually doing is creating a complete lack of accountability for anyone.
00:30:33.960 And it just has to stop.
00:30:36.820 By the way, my team is telling me that, indeed, the charges would have to be brought in Tompkins County, Ithaca, New York.
00:30:42.420 So that's better for the young men than Manhattan. And we're looking at the voter registration there just to see what the political split is. I mean, it's not the Democrats could not possibly be fair, especially I will say upstate New York Democrats. They're more like Midwestern Democrats. They're they're not crazy woke in my experience. And again, I've lived the majority of my life, my upbringing up there.
00:31:05.380 And so it's better.
00:31:07.280 I mean, thank God this didn't happen to them in Manhattan.
00:31:11.660 Thank God this all went down in Ithaca where they have at least a shot.
00:31:14.220 But make no mistake about it, they're going to get indicted. 1.00
00:31:16.620 This woman's going to indict them.
00:31:18.640 And what we're learning today, Saurabh, is that some of them have already asserted, because the Title IX proceeding that was held on the grounds of Cornell did get statements from at least six of the seven defendants, maybe all seven.
00:31:34.380 What's been leaked to the media only seem to say they got six to the seven.
00:31:37.960 Maybe one young man got smart and had a lawyer who said, you're not giving a statement.
00:31:43.380 We're leaving Cornell and we're not giving a statement because they have only one goal in mind, which is to ruin you.
00:31:49.560 But in any event, the statements that we are seeing leaked to The New York Times include questions raised by the young men about their own capacity and whether they consented.
00:32:02.000 Lopes, whose lawyer was on this show yesterday, and it is Lopes, not Lopez, Jilio, said that she was the one who initiated their sexual conduct.
00:32:13.220 And just to keep it straight, because I know it's difficult, there were three threesomes.
00:32:19.540 One involved Matt Ingalls, John Newell, and Jane Doe.
00:32:25.140 The second one involved John Newell, Lopes, and Jane Doe.
00:32:30.320 And Newell was the one who tweeted out the Snapchat or posted the Snapchat free P word upstairs.
00:32:36.580 And the third one involved Matt Ingalls again.
00:32:41.160 And Winston Lee was the third guy.
00:32:45.680 So, like I said, four men, three encounters.
00:32:48.920 And this guy, Lopes, was part of the second encounter who said she initiated the sexual contact and did not ask for his consent.
00:32:58.420 He said he left the room around 2 a.m. because he had become uncomfortable.
00:33:03.420 Guys were going in there to sort of take a look at what was going on, and he didn't like that, I think, and he wound up going to McDonald's.
00:33:11.560 He did not tell his buddies what had just happened because he was, quote, admittedly a bit embarrassed.
00:33:16.520 Then came Winston Lee, who was part of the third interlude.
00:33:22.260 he also said that Jane Doe initiated sexual activity with him without asking.
00:33:28.940 He said he did snort a line of ketamine off her body
00:33:31.760 and that she tried to initiate sex.
00:33:35.320 Quote, I kind of took a step back
00:33:37.360 because I didn't want to engage in anything like sex, said Lee.
00:33:41.240 Quote, I thought it wasn't the time for that.
00:33:45.200 But later that night, Mr. Lee said he asked for Jane Doe's consent
00:33:48.640 before engaging in a threesome with her.
00:33:51.120 He recalled telling Jane Doe that, quote, if you're uncomfortable with any of this or you don't want or you won't want to do this, that is perfectly fine.
00:34:00.760 We can call it a night.
00:34:02.000 He said Jane Doe replied, we're all consenting adults here.
00:34:07.320 And then there was another comment where Diego Sarabia, who was accused of having gone into the room and accused of having snorted a line off of her body, but not have actually been been part of a sex act.
00:34:21.060 He testified he entered the room after 2.30 in the morning.
00:34:24.760 He was shocked by the scene in front of him.
00:34:27.780 There were several fraternity brothers there.
00:34:30.800 One was standing behind Jane Doe.
00:34:33.320 He said, I was immensely concerned since I've never seen anything like this in my four years in the house.
00:34:37.840 But his concerns were allayed when, quote, all the people in the room told him to come in.
00:34:43.180 Quote, I remember the girl in specific saying something along the lines of, this was normal in the medieval times.
00:34:52.000 This was normal.
00:34:53.660 This is the account that was given to the university investigators on top of the woman's account, which we know in the six-page statement given to the cops did not accuse the men of forcing her to do anything.
00:35:06.860 And yet, I stand with survivors like Jane Doe.
00:35:11.460 Go ahead, Saurabh.
00:35:13.180 Yeah, this was, first of all, not normal in medieval times, worth noting. But actually, that quote has the ring of truth to it, or at least plausibility to me. But look, let's step back here. This is a point that Sean and I and you, Megan, have made repeatedly about different cases, which is the sexual culture that led to all of this is a broken sexual culture.
00:35:33.400 It's unhealthy for young men. It's unhealthy for women. It creates feelings of shame in the women who engage in it after the fact, etc. But the way to repair that culture is not to create a system of after the fact punishment that targets one side of the sexual equation and only one side, namely young men, while basically absolving all responsibility off of young women. 0.64
00:36:01.840 You know, the context to all this is not ketamine and drinking at Ki-Fi. In her own lawsuit, Jane Doe lays out a sequence of drinking activities, and it's her. Her sorority, Tri-Delta, had instituted a rule of no hard alcohol drinking in the house of the actual sorority. 0.95
00:36:22.380 similarly cornell itself had instituted a rule saying no drinking and greek life in their own
00:36:30.580 houses for of hard alcohol yet in the jane doe complaint the civil suit she says it began it
00:36:38.980 the night began with her drinking tito's vodka and then she's trying to sue among others tri
00:36:45.960 delta the sorority for not noticing that she had drank alcohol and yet taking her to the
00:36:51.960 downtown strip of Ithaca, New York, where a bar had put an X on her hand that indicated she's
00:36:58.780 underage, yet she drank. Then she went to like a kind of outdoors other party and she got a
00:37:04.620 bracelet that indicated she was underage and yet was still able to get a drink and showed up. And
00:37:10.420 by her own telling in the police statement, she was an intoxication level of, she said, five out
00:37:15.700 of 10 by the time she got to Chi-Fi. So my point here in laying out that sequence of drinking is
00:37:21.380 we've set up as much of a kind of patriarchal barriers, but if a young woman is determined to
00:37:28.000 drink and put herself in sexually risky situations, at the end of the day, she can. If we want to
00:37:33.380 change the culture, let's change the culture. But it cannot be changed after the fact punishment
00:37:39.420 of young men. Now, I just want to, you mentioned the Title IX hearings that the university itself
00:37:44.780 held. We at Unheard uncovered, which were not public because they were off the New York docket
00:37:51.300 system. But he, one of the students, the accused, Scott Kirchmar, had sued Cornell, alleging that
00:37:57.680 the process that the university used to convict him of attempted sexual exploitation, that process
00:38:05.440 was defective in all sorts of ways. And I'll give you the example, the headline viewers can find,
00:38:10.520 we called it, Inside a Rape Kangaroo Court at Cornell. And one of the hearing officers,
00:38:17.420 one of the panel that was supposed to adjudicate his case, he is facing the second most heinous
00:38:22.720 charge we have on the books. She was driving. The woman's name is Savannah Bowell. She's one of
00:38:29.720 the Cornell staffer who was overseeing the case. One of his judges. One of the judges, that's right.
00:38:34.880 And she's driving and Kirschmar's lawyer can see that the shadows across her face are changing.
00:38:41.300 She's not focused on what's happening in the Zoom meeting. She's paying attention to the road.
00:38:47.420 And in another instance, because she wore glasses, lawyers for the student, the accused
00:38:52.400 student could see on her glasses reflected what she was watching on her monitor.
00:38:56.860 And it was like other windows.
00:38:57.840 She was surfing the web and looking at other sites while this kid, you know, is facing
00:39:02.680 potentially life-ruining charges.
00:39:05.480 And the lawyer, Jeremy Saland for Scott, sent an email to the Title IX coordinator and said,
00:39:12.580 stop the meeting, stop the meeting.
00:39:14.120 One of the panelists isn't listening, isn't paying attention.
00:39:17.300 Then subsequently, she took off her glasses, meaning she probably was warned by others, like, hey, take off your glasses.
00:39:23.500 They can see you're not paying attention.
00:39:25.140 So this student has already, and Scott, has already gone through one process, which is the police investigation, and they declined to charge for the reasons you laid out, Megan.
00:39:35.160 Then he went through the kangaroo court of the university and was found guilty of attempted sexual exploitation, even though he was never apprised.
00:39:44.080 He was never notified that this is the charge he's facing.
00:39:47.340 He was brought up for rape and sexual exploitation.
00:39:50.040 The university exonerated him of that, but they still struck him with attempted sexual exploitation, a charge that his lawyer didn't know about and therefore couldn't prepare for or attempt to refute.
00:40:03.320 So they've already gone through this kind of kangaroo process.
00:40:06.080 Now they're reopening it.
00:40:07.420 I still think with Sean and you, Megan, I hope that the new kind of criminal investigation led by the attorney general, Tish James, and the governor, it's still dealing with the same underlying facts, which are very, very unfriendly to the woman, to Jane Doe.
00:40:24.680 So I hope that the outcome will still be the same because the facts haven't changed.
00:40:28.640 It won't be. Did you listen? Did you listen? So unlike unheard, the New York Times is not
00:40:34.580 reporting fairly on this case at all. And the New York Times, the daily podcast this morning had
00:40:41.040 the most sympathetic portrayal of this whole thing to no one's surprise. And the whole theme
00:40:47.600 of their their podcast was women. They often take some time to realize how they've been traumatized. 0.72
00:40:58.640 There is no acknowledgement that women who consensually do X-rated things that any normal
00:41:07.740 woman would be slightly embarrassed about or ashamed to broadcast, then often on college
00:41:14.440 campuses get convinced in the days after as the stories leak out that it was, oh, not me making 1.00
00:41:22.860 a valid decision to be a slut. It was in fact rape. That's not acknowledged by the 0.99
00:41:28.620 Times in their editorial today, Sean. What their spin is, it took her days to realize her trauma.
00:41:38.420 And she was just really sort of identifying with her attackers when she made her little speech
00:41:44.600 about how I'm just so open-minded and people are really going to have to settle down when it comes
00:41:49.040 to sex and sexuality. I love you, King. No one did anything illegal. I'm a slut. That was just,
00:41:56.900 You know, and by the way, those weren't acknowledged, but, you know, just the evolution, the reason it took her a few weeks to start saying trauma and rape, rape in particular, was this other thing that just just happens to sexual assault victims.
00:42:10.460 And then, Sean, they peddled the lie about one in four or twenty six percent of women on college campuses being rape victims, which is insane.
00:42:25.160 Here it is.
00:42:25.700 because the school did follow the process.
00:42:28.840 We have 1,100 pages we've reviewed that show the school
00:42:31.340 for hours and hours following the process.
00:42:34.100 The question is, does the process work?
00:42:36.480 And I sort of wonder to that point
00:42:37.580 if that is the thing sparking so much outrage at Cornell
00:42:41.220 and frankly sort of around the country.
00:42:44.660 Rachel, I don't know if that's the thing that's sparking so much outrage.
00:42:47.140 I think there's a lot of outrage in general.
00:42:48.920 I think the fact that Jane Doe is very familiar
00:42:54.400 as an image to anyone who's ever been a woman who's gone to college, like 26% of women who go
00:43:00.440 to college go on to say that they've been raped or assaulted at some point. This is a story that
00:43:06.240 continues to feel like it keeps happening. This is so ridiculous. All right, let me just start 0.99
00:43:12.840 with the great Heather McDonald, whom I know we all adore. She is just freaking brilliant. And 0.99
00:43:18.720 she's been putting the lie to this nonsense for years. This is what she wrote recently.
00:43:26.120 If there is indeed a culture of rape at elite institutions, as AOC recently reaffirmed, 1.00
00:43:31.540 why do female students flock into them? Cornell's student body went from a little under 50% female 1.00
00:43:36.660 in 05 to nearly 54% female in 2025. The hoary, no pun intended statistic, bandied about relentlessly
00:43:45.520 during the height of 2010's campus rape frenzy 1.00
00:43:48.140 that one in four female undergrads 0.88
00:43:49.880 would be sexually assaulted during her college years
00:43:51.780 signifies a level of criminal sexual violence
00:43:54.220 unheard of even during African tribal wars. 1.00
00:43:57.420 She says, why don't we keep sending our daughters? 1.00
00:44:00.040 You know, women keep sending their daughters, 1.00
00:44:01.940 daughters keep going. 1.00
00:44:03.100 She writes, either females are too stupid 1.00
00:44:04.880 to take the most basic of precautions 1.00
00:44:06.820 and not go to these places,
00:44:08.200 or there is no rape crisis and they know it. 1.00
00:44:11.100 The same goes for their status-hungry mothers. 1.00
00:44:13.440 Why are they sending their daughters 1.00
00:44:14.480 into such maelstrom of violence. 0.97
00:44:16.440 Answer, that violence does not exist.
00:44:18.340 And finally, she reposted an article
00:44:20.460 she had written in 08 for City Journal
00:44:22.220 in which she had penned the following.
00:44:25.780 If the one in four stat is correct,
00:44:27.940 it is sometimes modified to one in five to one in four.
00:44:31.260 Campus rape represents a crime wave
00:44:33.100 of unprecedented proportions.
00:44:35.320 No crime, much less one as serious as rape,
00:44:37.920 has a victimization rate remotely approaching 20 or 25%,
00:44:41.460 even over many years.
00:44:42.820 The 2006 violent crime rate in Detroit, she writes at the time, one of the most violent cities in America was 2,400 murders, rapes, robberies and aggravated assaults per 100,000 inhabitants.
00:44:54.500 That's a rate of 2.4 percent.
00:44:57.360 The one in four stat would mean that every year millions of young American women graduate who have suffered the most terrifying assault short of murder that a woman can experience. 0.78
00:45:07.800 Such a crime way would require nothing less than a state of emergency.
00:45:10.800 Take back the night rallies and 24-hour hotlines would hardly be adequate to counter this tsunami of sexual violence.
00:45:17.200 And yet, here we go again. 1.00
00:45:20.720 Yeah, I think part of the problem here is that the feminist left is trying to create this world where women have total agency but no accountability. 0.99
00:45:31.720 And what we're learning is that that is an absolute disaster. 0.99
00:45:35.060 If you are going to have agency, you have to have accountability.
00:45:39.040 If you're not going to have agency, then maybe the age of majority needs to be changed.
00:45:42.860 You know, maybe we need to think differently about how different people mature. 1.00
00:45:46.360 But the reality is women do have agency. 0.99
00:45:48.620 This woman knew exactly what she was doing. 1.00
00:45:50.980 And we know what she was doing because she was texting about it.
00:45:53.920 She was excited about it.
00:45:55.120 She was bragging about it until the point that she started to feel ashamed about it.
00:45:59.540 Now, I find it shocking that it took that long.
00:46:02.300 But whatever.
00:46:02.960 I guess when you're engaging that type of behavior, you don't have the greatest ability to make good decisions.
00:46:07.500 You probably don't have great judgment. 0.86
00:46:09.580 But once she started to feel ashamed and feel bad and feel gross about what she did, because what she did was shameful and bad and gross and disgusting. 0.98
00:46:18.220 And by the way, all the men who are involved are disgusting as well. 0.97
00:46:21.580 We don't want to let them off the hook here. 1.00
00:46:23.380 They're all disgusting. 1.00
00:46:24.720 Everyone in this story is filthy and disgusting and should be ashamed by their behavior. 1.00
00:46:29.680 But bad behavior is not necessarily illegal. 1.00
00:46:32.600 and you don't go and get to retcon garbage, crappy, slutty, filthy, disgusting behavior 0.98
00:46:38.300 into a crime because suddenly the people you engaged it with don't want to be around you 1.00
00:46:43.160 anymore. And it should be the most obvious thing in the world. If you as a woman are going to allow
00:46:48.240 people to treat you like that, you cannot be surprised when they don't respect you or don't
00:46:52.980 want to be around you. And what we've learned is the second she gets disinvited from the party
00:46:57.040 with her alleged rapist, who she was super, you know, amped about hanging out with again.
00:47:02.400 Love you, King.
00:47:03.160 Yeah. Once she wasn't a part of that, that's when she decided, oh, wait a minute, I was raped. 0.98
00:47:08.620 Nobody believes this. She felt bad about her behavior and wanted to get revenge against the 0.84
00:47:13.080 people who spurned her. And you cannot have civil society in any measure, shape, or form
00:47:18.400 if you're going to allow people to engage in this type of behavior and then retcon it after the fact
00:47:23.320 to somehow I was a victim. 1.00
00:47:24.660 No, you're all filthy and disgusting 1.00
00:47:26.140 and you should all be ashamed. 1.00
00:47:28.660 The insane lynch mob online, 1.00
00:47:34.560 they're gonna get one of these boys attacked or killed. 0.96
00:47:38.560 It is really dangerous what they are doing.
00:47:41.600 And of course, because the left in particular is what it is, 1.00
00:47:45.540 we are seeing the most unattractive women in America 0.99
00:47:51.120 post videos claiming, I am Jane Doe. Trust me, you have nothing to worry about. Look at this. 0.99
00:47:58.600 I'm going to give you one example. Sot 11. Very, very large woman.
00:48:10.020 Guess you found me. I am Jane Doe. I am Cornell's Jane Doe. You found me and can stop looking. I
00:48:17.460 will stop looking, madam, but not for the reasons you purport to suggest. These are other women 0.99
00:48:22.940 doing the same. Sean, trying to make some point about how like they look at it. Everyone's obese 0.87
00:48:29.020 and homely. And they want us to know I am Jane Doe in an effort to, I guess, protect. And the thing
00:48:34.120 the thing about Jane Doe's anonymity, I have to tell you, I find deeply problematic, deeply
00:48:39.120 problematic. This isn't even a woman in the criminal justice system when she first files
00:48:43.020 this thing. She is a civil tort plaintiff who gets to keep her anonymity in a case that is this 0.99
00:48:49.060 fiercely disputed and debated. And yet the boys get their names out in the press instantly and
00:48:55.540 their lives instantly ruined. This is very wrong. This isn't justice. This is a lynch mob. And I
00:49:02.840 think what we're seeing is the fruits, which Saurabh talked about, of a really truly rotten
00:49:08.500 culture, not just as far as sexual amours are concerned. I think that's been obvious for 0.55
00:49:13.940 decades now that we have completely lost the plot as people about what actually the purpose of sex
00:49:19.860 is and the way to engage in it that's safe and normal leads to happy, healthy families.
00:49:26.280 We've totally lost the plot on that. We've denigrated marriage to the point where we look
00:49:30.440 at it as just a contract over who gets to claim what stuff when it eventually ends.
00:49:34.620 But we've also completely destroyed a culture where we used to believe in honor and virtue, and those were the highest values that we esteemed. 0.99
00:49:43.420 And now you can see what these women trying to draft behind somebody else's victim status. 0.98
00:49:49.200 They're not even victims here. 1.00
00:49:50.520 They just want to associate themselves with the victimhood of someone else to get attention.
00:49:55.960 We have now entered, especially with the left in this country, a complete victim culture.
00:50:01.500 How can you discuss how you have been victimized by everyone who's bad in society?
00:50:07.100 And if you have so many victim points, then you get to you get to be at the top of the
00:50:11.040 pyramid and make all the decisions.
00:50:12.620 This is what intersectionality is about.
00:50:14.540 This is what DEI and all that nonsense is about in the left.
00:50:18.140 And we have got to go back to a culture that esteems virtue and honor and good behavior
00:50:22.820 and not one that elevates people because of their alleged victim of victimhood status.
00:50:27.400 Yes. None of this would have happened if any one of the participants had been raised to believe and had internalized, ideally, no sex before marriage, a close second, sex only with someone with whom you are in a loving relationship.
00:50:51.420 None of this would have happened.
00:50:53.080 Like, none of it.
00:50:54.940 But they were following a different ethos on both sides,
00:50:58.260 and that's why they're in the mess they're in.
00:51:00.680 Honestly, they all have a lot of soul-searching to do,
00:51:03.680 but in particular, this woman who decided not to live with the consequences
00:51:07.400 of her own decision, but to try to imprison the young men from that night.
00:51:12.620 More right after this break.
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00:53:58.980 sean davis is back with me now so rab had to run uh so as we sit here we get a tweet from alvin
00:54:09.780 bragg the manhattan da that reads as follows we thank governor kathy hochel for her commitment
00:54:15.320 to closing the voluntary intoxication loophole and he's all for it uh sean this is an absurdity
00:54:24.920 it's not a loophole. It was by design in the law so that actual rape cases could actually get heard
00:54:31.800 and wouldn't be completely deluged out of the system by every woman with Sunday morning regrets
00:54:37.120 and a hangover changing her story to rape. There is a reason why that I loved the way you put it.
00:54:44.480 What was it? It was all that women want agency, but no accountability. Like that's, that's exactly 1.00
00:54:51.600 what this is. And it I pulled this. She tweeted it yesterday. It was a really good piece by Nancy
00:55:00.640 Rommelman. She posted it on tablet in January of 2020, as Governor Cuomo was then pushing to
00:55:07.560 close the loophole. You know, again, it's not it's not a loophole. It's it's meant to not clog
00:55:13.000 the system so much that such that actual rape cases can't get heard and to provide for nonstop
00:55:18.720 litigation after drunken encounters. By the way, if we're going to say, and we can't in this case
00:55:24.060 because the law cannot be applied retroactively, but let's say that they had closed the loophole
00:55:28.240 prior to this alleged incident at Cornell. Each of these young men would be able to bring charges
00:55:35.320 against her. The ones, number one, Matt Ingalls, he was so intoxicated he was falling asleep while
00:55:42.880 she was performing oral sex on him and she was, she kept going. I mean, that, that right now, 0.99
00:55:49.580 actually under the law without closing the loophole looks very much like physical helplessness and
00:55:54.280 that'll get you out of the loophole no matter what, whether you ingested voluntarily or somebody
00:55:58.120 slipped you a Mickey, if you're physically helpless, you can bring a rape case. So honestly,
00:56:03.120 this guy, Matt Ingalls has a potential claim against her criminal, criminal, nevermind civil.
00:56:08.360 But if we're going to reverse the law, you know, get rid of the loophole, all the guys who were there doing lines of ketamine, defendant number two, Jonathan Newell, he was dry heaving. He was about to throw up. She had to rub his back and like make sure he was OK. Obviously, this guy was blitzed out of his mind and she had two interludes. He was part of two of the of the threesome, same as Matt, Matt Ingalls.
00:56:33.420 That guy, how about, it's so paternalistic, right?
00:56:38.020 They're not even considering the number of men who could come forward
00:56:41.820 and how even in this case, it would not have necessarily helped Jane Doe.
00:56:46.020 It might have actually taken her down.
00:56:49.360 But I was going to mention the case by Rommelman.
00:56:51.200 This is what she wrote.
00:56:53.720 She says, from now on, if he gets his way,
00:56:56.680 you will not be the ultimate arbiter of your own bad or good choices,
00:57:00.020 at least not without fear of prosecution.
00:57:01.700 We're not talking about getting roofied at a bar. Current penal laws already encompass that. We're talking about ipso facto being considered incapable of giving consent due to having consumed alcohol.
00:57:14.420 Should you choose to go ahead and have sex while drunk, you will by default be seen as a victim or perpetrator driven by what you wanted at the time, a person unable to control his or her conduct due to intoxication.
00:57:26.880 She writes,
00:57:27.260 The new law is aimed almost entirely at protecting women. 0.89
00:57:30.120 If by protect, we mean robbing them of agency. 0.99
00:57:32.400 If we mean stop trusting them to make their own decisions. 0.96
00:57:34.960 If we mean the same old garbage attempts to control women's behavior, this time prettied up to look like caring, to look all current, to further embed the idea that being female is a special onus, which requires special female only laws. 1.00
00:57:49.660 You get hammered. 0.99
00:57:50.540 This is me. 1.00
00:57:51.540 You get hammered and get laid as a woman. 1.00
00:57:54.120 You get raped. 1.00
00:57:55.320 That's that's closing the loophole in New York. 1.00
00:57:58.680 Yeah, it's total madness.
00:58:00.520 And they give the game away by not trying to defend any of the men who, under this new 0.81
00:58:05.300 standard, are clearly every bit the victim as the woman was, because if you can't consent
00:58:10.720 while you're inebriated, then nobody there consented.
00:58:13.620 And so then the question becomes, well, I guess, who is the instigator?
00:58:16.440 Who is the aggressor?
00:58:17.580 And embedded within this are some truths about humanity that we all understand but for a long time have pretended to not understand.
00:58:28.680 And it's that men are stronger and women are weaker.
00:58:32.600 Often you'll hear them referred to as the weaker sex.
00:58:35.700 It's not meant to be insulting or anything. 1.00
00:58:38.000 It's just it's an objective truth.
00:58:39.520 Men are stronger, more aggressive. 0.98
00:58:41.360 Forget what you see in all the silly superhero movies. 0.95
00:58:44.300 these, any man can overpower just about any woman at any time. And it's why we have always sought
00:58:50.980 to protect women. Okay. And so you can see in this, the lie that all of the transgender nonsense
00:58:56.620 is that boys can become girls and girls can become boys. When you start talking about something like 1.00
00:59:02.180 this, about like sexual assault or talking about rape, you see that that's all a lie. Men are 0.96
00:59:06.480 stronger. They're more physical. They're more aggressive. They're bigger. This is just reality.
00:59:10.260 And so we've tried to organize society for thousands and thousands of years about what's the best way to harness the male physical aggression and strength?
00:59:17.880 What's the best way to protect women?
00:59:19.680 How do we do this? 0.83
00:59:20.660 Generally, we did that through a thing called marriage, where you can engage in all these sort of things and you could get things in exchange.
00:59:26.460 You could raise a family together.
00:59:27.860 The woman would be protected.
00:59:29.380 She wouldn't have to worry about constantly being a potential victim.
00:59:33.000 And yet we as a society have totally disregarded all the things that made this work, that made the things that can make all of us vulnerable somehow end up being strengths.
00:59:44.480 And it reminds me of a book by C.S. Lewis called The Abolition of Man.
00:59:49.440 And he talks about things happening in there where you start removing organs and then you lose the function.
00:59:55.580 You castrate the horse and you build the gelding, be fruitful.
00:59:59.740 you remove the organ and then you expect people to still act as if they had it and that's what
01:00:05.200 we've done and i think we're seeing in this story which is not just a story of wrongful claims and
01:00:11.180 people being destroyed for bad but not criminal behavior what happens when you try the whole
01:00:17.460 sexual revolution was a disaster and it harmed nobody more than it did it hurt young women
01:00:23.240 they were told you can have it all you can have free sex you can do whatever you want you'll be
01:00:27.240 super empowered and you know what you'll be better off for it is does anyone look at this story and
01:00:32.180 think yeah the woman who engaged in this she's better off for it no everyone is worse off as a
01:00:37.840 result having us lost our minds lost the the idea of what sexuality is actually for we just want to
01:00:44.840 pretend that the whole goal in life now is to go out and have fun and consent is everything if you 0.56
01:00:49.600 consent then it's good and that's also nonsense they all consented to it and it's still disgusting
01:00:54.980 behavior. And I wish we could get back to the point where we stopped looking at consent as
01:00:59.320 the baseline for human behavior and actually started looking at propriety. Because if these
01:01:04.180 people actually had been raised properly and engaged, well, none of this would have ever
01:01:07.460 happened. None of this would have happened. They all made garbage choices and now they're stuck
01:01:11.960 with it. Don't have sex with someone you don't love. Don't have sex with somebody who doesn't 1.00
01:01:17.360 love you. I mean, just start there. Truly start there. Like imagine if they actually had internalized 0.98
01:01:27.180 that message. Each person involved in that night, every single one of them would have avoided all
01:01:31.440 of this. But instead, you're right. We're well beyond the sexual revolution. Now we are now at
01:01:35.900 the point where literally the person with the number four podcast in America is saying this 0.99
01:01:41.620 saw 12 alex cooper call her daddy no kissing on a first date well sometimes i fucked them on the 0.98
01:01:47.580 first date how about that one tiktok um how about i let him eat me out on the first date and i married 0.87
01:01:53.640 him no just kidding he didn't email that was like the second time i've had so many dates where like
01:01:57.400 i had great first date kisses and i was like oh my god i'm never calling you but oh who doesn't 0.99
01:02:03.540 love a makeout like makeouts are so fun okay and so kiss them the first date fucking sleep with 0.98
01:02:09.040 them the first night like I don't care you have to go based on what feels good to your body and 1.00
01:02:13.940 what feels right to you and so if you have some fucking friends that are prudes that are like 0.99
01:02:18.260 you should never kiss on the first date you're gonna give them the wrong impression and they're 1.00
01:02:22.860 just gonna think you're a whore okay maybe for you Cassandra but I'm about to let them in my 1.00
01:02:29.020 back door on night too you don't have to do anal on night too but you could whatever feels right 1.00
01:02:35.500 If a man is going to treat you like a piece of shit and isn't going to call you, he's 1.00
01:02:40.780 not going to treat you like a piece of shit just because you fucked him or made out with 1.00
01:02:44.500 him on the first night. 1.00
01:02:45.400 A man knows.
01:02:46.600 OK, maybe make out with him so you stop wasting your time.
01:02:49.360 What if like small lip Sammy is like barely gets a little tongue in there and you're like, 0.99
01:02:55.880 I can't even fucking find. 0.97
01:02:57.660 We're just hitting teeth. 1.00
01:02:59.100 You're probably not going to want to fuck Sammy. 1.00
01:03:02.140 But good to know that you got it done on the first date. 0.99
01:03:05.180 We're maximizing our time, people. 1.00
01:03:08.580 She's a pig. 1.00
01:03:10.640 And honestly, you can rebut that entire ridiculous diatribe with the following truism. 1.00
01:03:18.160 You teach people how to treat you. 0.90
01:03:21.260 You teach people how to treat you. 0.99
01:03:23.580 And absolutely, if you give it up on the first date and do anal, you are teaching the man 0.99
01:03:31.300 that he is to have zero respect for you 0.99
01:03:34.800 because you have none for yourself.
01:03:36.680 And I'm sorry, but I have no idea
01:03:38.720 whether this young woman listened to Alex Cooper, 0.71
01:03:40.800 but her generation is. 0.70
01:03:42.680 And this is a new, only even more vile,
01:03:45.820 sex in the city type message about empowerment, Sean,
01:03:49.220 that will leave the young women who take it alone, ashamed,
01:03:54.780 and as this woman wrote, in tears all day
01:03:57.320 when the actual consequences of that behavior
01:03:59.920 come back to haunt them.
01:04:01.300 Yeah, there's this weird thing that happens when people start going down the road of doing terrible behavior is that their conscience is actually pricked and they know what they did is wrong.
01:04:11.000 And you can take two roads at that point.
01:04:13.720 You can acknowledge it and be like, that was pretty awful.
01:04:16.180 I should probably repent of that and I should probably stop doing that behavior.
01:04:19.720 Unfortunately, we don't see a lot of that.
01:04:21.340 The other road you can go down is to start saying, you know, actually, that behavior was awesome and everyone who says it was gross, they're bad.
01:04:29.700 And then you end up just compounding bad decision with bad decision and bad decision.
01:04:33.840 I was reminded watching that horrific clip there of a gag that was in the show Arrested Development.
01:04:40.080 And they had a video series they mocked that they called in the show Girls with Low Self-Esteem.
01:04:45.880 And it was a it was a mockery of an old video series called Girls Gone Wild.
01:04:50.520 And it was obviously what happened with those videos. 0.95
01:04:53.100 People want these girls wanted to be thought of as pretty or taken seriously. 1.00
01:04:57.540 So they do things they shouldn't do for momentary attention from men. 0.96
01:05:01.340 And then it was Arrested Development, a comedy show who actually nailed what's going on here. 0.98
01:05:06.180 I don't know that woman, but watching that clip, Alex Cooper, I guess is her name. 0.99
01:05:11.100 That is a broken, sad, miserable woman. 0.96
01:05:15.100 You can see how lonely she is, the length she has to go to, the hoop she has to jump through to make herself feel good about decisions she's made. 0.87
01:05:24.020 You don't go and do a vodcast talking about that stuff because you're proud of what you
01:05:28.820 did.
01:05:29.340 You go engage in that behavior because you're sickened and you're ashamed, but you think
01:05:33.800 that if you do that and pretend it's great, then you're going to get attaboys and attagirls
01:05:37.680 and pats on the back for it.
01:05:39.140 I feel sorry for her. 1.00
01:05:41.140 It started with disgust, like, ugh, that is a sad, broken woman who needs Jesus Christ. 0.90
01:05:47.100 That is a sad, broken woman who needs to be told that you are not the sum of just your 0.98
01:05:51.440 body. 1.00
01:05:51.800 that is a sad, broken, pathetic woman 1.00
01:05:54.800 who has never been made to understand 1.00
01:05:56.980 that she is a great person
01:05:58.520 because she's made in the image of her creator. 1.00
01:06:00.800 She's not great because she can have sex. 1.00
01:06:03.020 I just, that poor woman needs a hug 1.00
01:06:05.900 and she needs Jesus Christ. 1.00
01:06:07.360 My goodness.
01:06:08.740 I think it's awfully late for that, for her.
01:06:13.140 She, it's amazing to me, 0.89
01:06:14.340 the number of like women 1.00
01:06:16.140 who go on that show and legitimize her.
01:06:21.800 legitimize, elevate, and in doing so, send a message to the young women of America that this
01:06:28.860 type of morality, such as it is, is totally acceptable and actually shared.
01:06:35.040 From Haley Bieber, who is admired by millions of young women, Charlize Theron, Kamala Harris
01:06:43.320 went on her podcast before the election, Michelle Obama. Did you bother to check out
01:06:49.400 Who the hell you were sitting across from? Michelle, before you sat down there? Gwyneth Paltrow? I mean, just it's horrific what's happening there. I mean, truly, like this woman is she she's like Hassan Piker by another name, like saying the most incendiary, upsetting, unfounded, like actually potentially dangerous things to a generation and influencing them. 1.00
01:07:17.040 And not one of those women, I think, would be caught dead on his show, but they'll prance by this show because they think it's titillating to talk about their own sex lives.
01:07:27.580 Like Haley Bieber sat there talking about when she and Justin Bieber have sex, like which time.
01:07:32.380 Like there's nothing that's that's sacred by whatever.
01:07:35.740 If you want to reveal a thing or two, who am I to judge you?
01:07:39.080 But to go on and talk to a person like that, who's actually influencing young women who are going to get hurt.
01:07:44.240 They actually are, unlike this woman at Cornell, potentially going to get raped or assaulted because they're playing with fire.
01:07:52.660 And this woman is riding the souls of the young gal she's influencing straight to the bank. 0.99
01:07:58.780 It's disgusting. 1.00
01:08:00.500 She's disgusting. 0.99
01:08:02.500 But back to the Cornell case. 0.96
01:08:03.980 the um there's more that's come out in the last day about actually the night inside that house
01:08:13.100 and what was exchanged amongst the fraternity brothers there were some 57 of them on that chat
01:08:19.660 a snapchat chain that we now know said free p word upstairs um then it was added that somebody
01:08:27.400 said shop still open and someone responded i think they might have said yeah and then
01:08:33.520 it came out last night that there was another addition to that that where someone asked like 0.95
01:08:39.500 you can just whip it out and someone said yeah so like you know these young ridiculous men
01:08:47.460 are probably hammered and in some level of disbelief about the fact that there actually 0.99
01:08:54.620 is a woman upstairs having sex with multiple multiple men you know however you want to
01:08:58.720 characterize it, that was happening. And they can't believe it. And, you know, I can see why.
01:09:05.740 Because while she knew Matt Ingalls, she doesn't appear to have known Jonathan Newell or
01:09:13.120 Jillio Lopes or Winston Lee at all. And she did have sex with him. So I'm sure they were shocked. 0.78
01:09:23.400 And the text chain or the Snapchat chain reflects that.
01:09:26.860 There is an update on what was on that chain of messages via ABC.
01:09:32.280 Here it is in SOT 8.
01:09:34.120 This morning, for the first time, we're seeing the room inside the Ki-Fi house at Cornell,
01:09:38.760 where Jane Doe says she was drugged and raped by multiple fraternity brothers.
01:09:43.180 This footage, obtained by ABC News, was taken weeks later after Cornell suspended the chapter.
01:09:48.620 And we're reading more of those vile Snapchat messages shared among more than 50 fraternity
01:09:53.780 brothers during the alleged assault. The friend Jane Doe went to see that night messaging the
01:09:58.580 group a photo that appears to show her in the bedroom. One brother asking, shop still open?
01:10:04.340 Another saying, LFG. That friend of Jane Doe's inviting them all to the room, writing, boys,
01:10:10.040 come whip it out. It's dark, man. I mean, it's not criminal, but it's dark.
01:10:19.060 And honestly, like this Matt Ingalls, who appears to have been like her friend, that
01:10:24.240 guy's got a lot of soul searching to do because she was the one, he was the one she trusted.
01:10:30.400 There was a report in her, part of her report, I believe I've read so much.
01:10:35.700 I'm trying to, I'm having trouble keeping it straight, but she said to him on the third
01:10:40.140 threesome, whatever happened to just you and me?
01:10:44.360 And I said to the audience on Wednesday, that was the saddest, saddest sentence in the entire
01:10:49.200 report.
01:10:50.160 Like this, this girl, I I've seen pictures of the one that we believe is her.
01:10:55.320 I'm trying to confirm once and for all, I have one source, but I need to confirm that
01:10:59.380 it's her. 0.99
01:11:02.060 She's, she's fine looking. 1.00
01:11:04.220 She's not the most, you know, quote, hot looking woman you've ever seen on a college campus.
01:11:09.080 I'm not saying that to be mean.
01:11:10.280 I'm just trying to give you some context for this woman probably was not the most sought after
01:11:15.160 person in her history with men. And I think she saw this defendant number one, Ingalls,
01:11:23.040 who appears to be a good looking guy from the picture I've seen and had hopes of possibly
01:11:28.780 becoming his girlfriend, telegraphing that she was like a sophisticate. And she's probably floored
01:11:34.820 when he said, as soon as she got to the Chi-Fi house,
01:11:38.940 how about a threesome? 0.79
01:11:40.720 And I'll bet she didn't actually wanna do it. 1.00
01:11:43.120 I actually do believe she probably was like, oh God.
01:11:45.780 But she probably said yes to impress him
01:11:48.060 because he wanted it, she wanted to please him.
01:11:50.280 I have no doubt that it was not a coercive situation,
01:11:54.000 but I just feel like this woman, what I've seen, 0.98
01:11:57.100 she doesn't look like a gal in the fast lane.
01:11:59.500 And ultimately she goes along with it. 0.79
01:12:01.720 She's trying to live this version of herself
01:12:03.720 that may or may not exist.
01:12:05.760 And then it culminates in,
01:12:08.060 like there's the original guy on threesome number three.
01:12:11.060 And she says reportedly to him,
01:12:13.520 whatever happened to just you and me?
01:12:15.860 And in the days thereafter, he's the one she's texting.
01:12:18.380 I love you, King.
01:12:19.980 You know, like, yeah, you know, I'm empowered.
01:12:22.540 People's attitudes about this are gonna change.
01:12:24.380 And he's talking about her protectively,
01:12:26.800 like you've done nothing to be ashamed of.
01:12:29.100 You know, don't worry.
01:12:29.720 I'm gonna report those people who are online
01:12:31.340 saying there was a gang bang at Ki-Fi.
01:12:33.720 but ultimately she's going to see the Snapchat exchange where he is participating in vile and
01:12:41.340 disgusting ways. He's one of the ones who's on that Snapchat. And I don't know if he did one of
01:12:46.900 the messages ABC just reported on, but he's on the one where the guy says free P word upstairs.
01:12:51.960 And that guy was John Newell, who partook in two of the threesomes. And Matthew Ingalls is on here
01:13:00.140 saying, like, you can walk in and whip it out. The guy she's calling King is saying she loves
01:13:06.740 the guy she trusted. And I do wonder, Sean, you know, like, how, how is it? How, how can it be
01:13:16.280 that these young men on an Ivy League campus with like every opportunity in the world in front of
01:13:27.160 and ahead of them would behave like this?
01:13:30.580 Like, that's another important question to all of this.
01:13:34.180 Yeah, these people had no guardrails on their behavior.
01:13:36.580 And it really is genuinely tragic 0.99
01:13:38.680 because girls engage that in that type of behavior
01:13:41.980 when they are insecure and broken
01:13:44.640 and they mistake physical affection for love.
01:13:47.960 They're clearly looking for love and they're not getting it. 0.99
01:13:51.220 Men do that kind of stuff because they're disgusting 0.99
01:13:53.520 and they're governed by the wrong organ. 0.97
01:13:55.400 And we used to have things in society that helped each side kind of navigate those known personality failings that they had in them.
01:14:03.900 So it's been a while since I was in college.
01:14:05.840 Where I went to college, for very good reasons that I think we're seeing illustrated here, there were no fraternities or sorority houses on campus.
01:14:14.160 Not at all.
01:14:14.880 That was something that if you wanted to do that, the university was not going to be involved in it.
01:14:19.240 You could associate yourself with the university, but they're not going to give you a house or property and all that.
01:14:23.300 And then the second thing that they did where I went to school is that the county wouldn't even allow people to live in the sorority or the frat houses.
01:14:32.040 You had to go get an apartment and it could only be with one or two other people.
01:14:35.320 They had pretty strict laws on how many people who weren't related could live in the same home.
01:14:39.520 And they did this for obvious reasons.
01:14:42.020 They didn't want these houses on campus to just become the site of like inebriated orgies.
01:14:46.600 And they also didn't want a situation where people would be in this.
01:14:49.740 Now, look, people can go to someone's house and engage in terrible behavior.
01:14:53.300 But it it wasn't that long ago that I was in college and the people there in that city at that school understood, you know, there's things we can do to help save people from themselves.
01:15:03.740 There's things we can do to reduce the likelihood that bad things will happen.
01:15:08.220 And it was always mocked as prudish. Oh, you're puritanical. You're a bunch of prudes.
01:15:13.240 Well, I got to tell you, I think the prudes and the puritans are on to something like I don't know how you can come to any other conclusion after watching the fruits of the sexual revolution. 1.00
01:15:23.300 and seeing how rotten they are than to think, you know what, maybe the prudes and the puritanical 1.00
01:15:28.220 people, they might have had something right. They weren't just trying to make it so you couldn't go 0.87
01:15:32.880 have fun. They were trying to protect you from the things that everyone has known for all of
01:15:37.700 humanity that plague humanity itself. And yet there will be no navel-gazing,
01:15:44.520 second-guessing of Cornell's. I guarantee you they've got various classes that promote
01:15:49.940 this kind of sexuality. 1.00
01:15:52.060 I mean, back in the day
01:15:53.140 that Heather McDonald was referencing,
01:15:54.680 I lived through this at Fox News.
01:15:55.980 We covered a lot of these cases.
01:15:57.680 They would have like,
01:15:58.640 they'd give out free condoms 1.00
01:16:00.040 and dental dams, 1.00
01:16:01.540 something invented by lesbians 1.00
01:16:03.280 for weird sex with each other, whatever. 1.00
01:16:07.880 They were all over campus. 0.96
01:16:09.480 It was celebrated.
01:16:10.740 Like it was,
01:16:11.300 they were trying to normalize 0.78
01:16:12.340 every version of sex, 1.00
01:16:13.820 dildos and vibrators being handed out 0.70
01:16:15.740 to like college students
01:16:16.920 who, you know,
01:16:18.440 are just getting to the place
01:16:19.800 where they're out of their parents' home
01:16:22.060 and are even starting to think about sex
01:16:24.780 as a regular matter,
01:16:25.820 you know, as like, 1.00
01:16:26.460 at least I can speak for the women. 1.00
01:16:27.820 I don't think a lot of high school women 1.00
01:16:29.400 are obsessed with sex. 0.99
01:16:30.580 For men, it may be different.
01:16:33.120 But there'll be no looking into
01:16:35.960 what did Cornell do to promote any of that?
01:16:38.180 It will only be,
01:16:39.680 why didn't the Title IX administrators
01:16:42.220 go harder on the defendants?
01:16:45.120 That's what's being asked now.
01:16:46.240 They want Tish James to investigate
01:16:48.440 Cornell, too. It's not just go after the boys. Investigate Cornell. And there are real concerns. 0.99
01:16:56.620 I've talked to people from Cornell about what's going to happen to Cornell University now. Like,
01:17:01.640 is the president going to get fired? How bad will the consequences be for a group that did
01:17:06.520 investigate them, that had expelled two of them, suspended multiple of them, but the ones who they
01:17:13.340 didn't think deserved it were allowed to resume life on campus, which they will not be forgiven
01:17:18.220 for. No, they won't. And it highlights this massive growing political divide in the country.
01:17:23.160 Now, there's clearly a war on young men, especially young white men. I think that's
01:17:27.460 undeniable at this point. Yes, they're viewed as you're you're just a bunch of savages who 0.97
01:17:32.220 probably voted for Trump. So you're not human. So we're just going to come after you and make 0.99
01:17:37.160 sure you can't participate in public life in any possible way. The flip side of that is that young
01:17:42.960 promiscuous women who have made terrible decisions in their lives, they are now a core constituency 1.00
01:17:47.920 of the Democratic Party. And that is actually why you're seeing Kathy Hochul do this. It's why you 1.00
01:17:54.180 see Letitia James involved. It's why you see Alvin Bragg talking about it. It's why it's happening
01:17:58.120 in October of an even year, a month before an election, by the way. This is a massive
01:18:03.980 get out the vote operation, mobilization operations for the left, because people who make terrible
01:18:10.500 decisions now with no judgment, who think they don't have any sort of accountability, that is
01:18:15.500 the base of the Democrat Party. And so I think that's one reason we're seeing this play out the
01:18:19.780 way we are seeing it in October of 2026 in a completely left-wing dominated and run state
01:18:25.760 in New York, in a left-wing institution. You might, as a normal person, look at that and be like,
01:18:31.060 wow, where this happened, maybe we just fire everyone in charge of all levels of government.
01:18:36.120 Maybe just everyone at Cornell in New York are gone.
01:18:40.340 And yet that's the exact opposite of what we're seeing.
01:18:43.100 Because you don't see this stuff generally happen at conservative Baptist colleges.
01:18:46.900 You don't see this at Christian colleges.
01:18:49.580 No, these scandals don't burst out of Liberty University.
01:18:54.140 They're always happening in a place outside of Christian conservative ideals.
01:18:58.460 Not to say that they're immune.
01:18:59.700 The Catholic Church certainly had its own scandals, whatever. 0.98
01:19:02.520 Okay, Kathy Hochul is currently running 0.98
01:19:05.240 for re-election as governor.
01:19:06.980 Our old pal Bruce Blakeman from Fox News,
01:19:09.000 a contributor there, a political pundit,
01:19:11.180 is within seven points of her. 0.99
01:19:13.400 Everybody fucking hates Kathy Hochul, honestly. 0.98
01:19:16.060 Like, no one elected her ever 0.99
01:19:17.520 because it was like, she would be a good idea. 0.99
01:19:19.520 She was a lieutenant governor who drafted in 1.00
01:19:21.300 behind Sex Pest Cuomo when he got the bounce.
01:19:23.780 And then it was like, okay, I guess we'll go with her.
01:19:25.620 But she almost lost last time too.
01:19:27.860 And now she's within seven points of losing to Blakeman,
01:19:31.520 which is like, he's the dark horse out of nowhere. Go, go, Blakeman, go. And you're right.
01:19:36.420 This is a political play by her, but they better be careful what they wish for, because there is
01:19:42.480 a war on young men in America. And by the way, while white young men are targets numero uno, 0.60
01:19:49.460 in the, in the Cornell seven, by my count, there are at least three men who are minorities.
01:19:57.360 Winston Lee looks Asian to me.
01:20:00.160 Jonathan Newell is absolutely mixed race. 0.99
01:20:03.620 He has an afro. 1.00
01:20:05.540 And that's defendant number two. 0.96
01:20:07.820 That's the one who did the Snapchat.
01:20:09.560 I'm going to be really cynical here and say that's probably why Sonny Hostin issued her statement on the law calling it straight. 0.88
01:20:15.500 Because honestly, she doesn't say anything that's sensible if it's only a white defendant. 0.63
01:20:19.900 She's just a strange person when it comes to race. 0.95
01:20:22.920 And then the third one is Jillio Lopes, who looks Hispanic or mixed race of some kind. 0.87
01:20:31.640 So that's just my back of the envelope guess.
01:20:34.580 But there are minority men who have been accused here by the white woman, which, you know, this can cause a problem with some leftist circles.
01:20:40.720 But wait, be careful. 0.98
01:20:42.920 Be careful, Democrats, in getting too rabid here, because the same way that like the judges controversy drives Republicans to the polls, you know, if the if the Democrats get out there too much and they're like, we need pro choice judges over the years, that would stir the right to be like, holy shit, what? 0.95
01:21:02.040 And they'd get off the couch for that. And this, too. I do think Republicans, conservatives, right-leaning independents care about their young men and they are sick of this shit. 0.88
01:21:14.920 And it just so happens that the vice president of the United States, J.D. Vance, was on with Jack Posobiec yesterday in an interview and listened to what he had to say. 0.99
01:21:24.600 South 13. We institutionalized anti-white, anti-male discrimination in this country. I mean,
01:21:31.180 if you just look at the way that we spoke about white men in the United States of America, not
01:21:36.100 me, obviously, not the president, but like Joe Biden, I was actually talking with a friend of
01:21:40.380 mine about this. He was like, if you look at the way the Biden administration discriminated against
01:21:45.540 people and job applications, college applications, the way that we just allowed explicitly racist
01:21:51.960 this discrimination against our laws to become part of the normal practice of our government,
01:21:56.720 of our admissions policies, of our private corporations. It's kind of insane that we
01:22:01.340 didn't have a revolution in this country. We explicitly discriminated against people. It's
01:22:08.260 one of the things that I'm proudest of in the Trump administration. Again, there's a lot more
01:22:11.520 work to do, but we're not discriminating against people, black or white, based on the color of
01:22:16.100 their skin and job applications. We're telling the universities you're not allowed to discriminate
01:22:20.720 against white guys, against dudes, against anyone. We don't want discrimination against anybody.
01:22:26.460 He's raising very good points, Sean. You tell me whether this actually could turn into something
01:22:30.320 that becomes a midterms issue. Well, I think it could. And it's interesting to me, we're almost
01:22:35.640 eight years from the anniversary of the Kavanaugh hoax. Now, recall what happened in that year. So
01:22:41.740 2018 was not going to be a good year for Republicans. It was a midterm election.
01:22:46.140 Trump had been bogged down with all the Russia collusion hoax nonsense. The polls were down.
01:22:49.860 And then came along Democrats with this plan to smear Brett Kavanaugh, one of the nicest, most decent people you'll ever meet, as close to a Boy Scout as you'll ever get, as the leader of a serial secret gang rape cartel in suburban Maryland in the 80s and 90s.
01:23:05.440 It was so absurd, and yet so many people took it seriously. And after about a week or two or three of it, I think Republicans looked around and were like, no, this is insane. You're not getting away with this.
01:23:17.560 And in a year when Republicans really should have lost at the ballot box, they actually gained seats in the Senate in 2018.
01:23:24.940 That never should have happened, but it happened because people saw how insane and how absurd the Democrats were.
01:23:30.520 They would lie and scheme and hoax anyone if they thought it could get them power.
01:23:35.760 I can't be the only one who is reminded of the Kavanaugh rape hoax in the midst of all this, especially that we're in another midterm year and another midterm election that we're a month away from.
01:23:46.180 I think this absolutely could galvanize people to come out and be like, you know what, we've not loved a lot of the things that have happened in the administration for the last year.
01:23:54.520 We don't love the war. But my goodness, we can't give these people power because if they do, they're just going to go around putting together lynch mobs of young white men by accusing them of things and crimes that they simply didn't commit.
01:24:05.840 So I really do think it could absolutely backfire on Democrats what they're doing because it's so obviously brazen and corrupt.
01:24:12.140 Yes. Listen to this. Here's Abdul El-Sayed, who's running for Senate in Michigan against Republican Mike Rogers.
01:24:21.060 A young woman bravely reported that she was sexually assaulted in 2024 by seven men at their fraternity.
01:24:27.300 But instead of protecting her, Cornell University protected her abusers automatically, the judgment said.
01:24:33.940 These guys are her abusers, letting them off with a slap on the wrist.
01:24:37.520 It's outrageous and a failure of both the institution and a societal norm that consistently makes light of sexual assault.
01:24:44.660 The law isn't helping.
01:24:46.040 New York's voluntary intoxication loophole makes it nearly impossible for survivors to seek justice if they drank or used substances prior to an assault.
01:24:53.980 Because of this loophole, Jane Doe's assailants may never be held accountable under the law.
01:24:58.680 I want my daughters to grow up in a world that is safe. 0.69
01:25:00.640 Women deserve to feel safe on campus. 0.99
01:25:02.400 That means perpetrators must be accountable for violating women to the fullest extent of the law.
01:25:06.460 And we need federal action to ensure that those who commit sexual assault and the institutions that protect them face consequences. 0.85
01:25:12.800 I mean, if I were Mike Rogers, I'd be shoving this down his throat.
01:25:16.840 This is a tight race, and Mike Rogers needs to find his footing and make clear he's all for female empowerment and protecting actually vulnerable young women.
01:25:26.880 But how dare he rush to judgment in a case this fraught?
01:25:31.860 And how dare he get ahead of the justice system here?
01:25:36.140 It is for a grand jury. And then if they say we have a case, a petite jury to decide who is the victim and who is the villain in this case, it remains to be seen. How dare he?
01:25:51.660 Of course, outside is doing that. It's funny, even when he's not on camera and you're just reading a statement, the amount of short man energy that explodes from everything he says, I find absolutely hilarious.
01:26:03.260 He's my favorite tater tot of a Senate candidate.
01:26:06.680 And, you know, this is a guy who goes around pretending to be a doctor, like Dr. Abdul
01:26:12.980 El-Sayed.
01:26:13.500 He can't practice medicine.
01:26:14.840 He didn't pass his board.
01:26:16.160 So of course, people do this. 0.98
01:26:17.440 So of course, he's going to be engaging in a ridiculous rape hoax after pretending to 0.95
01:26:20.700 be something he's not. 1.00
01:26:21.880 The man's an embarrassment. 0.99
01:26:23.400 He's a tiny little embarrassment. 0.99
01:26:25.160 So true. 0.93
01:26:26.180 He is.
01:26:26.560 He's a tiny, tiny little tater tot.
01:26:29.120 That's going to stick.
01:26:30.200 I am never going to be able to unsee that.
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01:30:04.240 All right, speaking of the midterms, let's get a little work done here because
01:30:07.640 there are some interesting stories going around on this thing. Down in Texas, the latest poll
01:30:14.540 showed, was he seven points ahead of Paxton, Tallarico? It was like the approval rating
01:30:22.500 was seven points higher, I think it was, for Tallarico than it was for Paxton, which is bad.
01:30:27.820 He continues to poll ahead of Paxton. And then Trump weighs in. He keeps trying to save Paxton
01:30:34.680 by kind of owning things about Paxton that are turnoffs, like how unattractive he is.
01:30:40.940 And then there was this ditty by Trump yesterday, Sop 14.
01:30:45.520 I was being hit. Ken Paxton was at my side more than anybody. And I have to always remember that
01:30:52.940 because he could be a pain in the ass sometimes, I'll be honest. Is he here, by the way? Oh, 0.99
01:30:57.680 there he is. Good. I didn't even know if he's here. I don't care. I would say the same thing,
01:31:02.640 whether the guy is the greatest attorney general in the United States of America. 1.00
01:31:10.260 Okay, so he's a pain in the ass who's unattractive. And it actually was a poll. 1.00
01:31:15.560 It was a poll, Fox News poll, showing Tallarico up seven over Ken Paxton with a month to go.
01:31:24.740 Sean Davis, what's going to happen down in Texas?
01:31:27.240 Yeah, Tallarico is not going to win by seven. I don't think he's going to win at all.
01:31:30.840 I expect Paxton to come through. He'll probably squeak through, win by one, two or three points.
01:31:36.000 What's happening down there is that it's a bad year or it appears to be a bad year for Republicans.
01:31:41.040 Trump's underwater in any midterm year. The numbers for an individual candidate are kind of going to follow the president, even though he's not on the ballot.
01:31:50.100 But the reality is this is Texas. And, you know, Ken Paxton, he's got baggage like he obviously has baggage.
01:31:56.940 The state's Republican establishment really can't stand him. He just absolutely beat the stuffing out of John Cornyn, an incumbent by 30 points. And so there's a lot of people who are kind of butthurt over that. But again, it's Texas. And I think I think I saw a couple of polls recently that showed Paxson up by two or three. I do think it's going to be close, but it's Texas. You now got the president's PAC getting involved. You've got a bunch of money. I think I saw something like 50 or 100 million going into the state.
01:32:25.860 And I think Tallarico thus far has survived based on the fact that people really didn't know much about him.
01:32:31.700 Once they get a month worth of ads about what a trans-frico this guy is, how he thinks God's non-binary and children have six genders and he loves talking to trans children, this is not a guy who's going to survive in Texas.
01:32:45.360 And I look back to the race with Beto O'Rourke against Ted Cruz.
01:32:50.740 I think Ted Cruz in many ways was kind of similar to Paxton.
01:32:53.540 you know he didn't have some of the bad can stand him yeah people just don't really like him
01:32:59.220 I mean he was running against this fundraising juggernaut who had all the national media
01:33:03.480 attention in a bad year for Republicans and cruising it up I think winning by four or five
01:33:08.460 so I don't think Tallarico is going to win but a lot is going to depend on the actual political
01:33:13.760 environment nationwide if it's a d plus five d plus seven electorate I think Paxton squeaks through
01:33:19.640 If it's much worse than that for Republicans, I think that undertow might take out Paxton and even potentially Greg Abbott as governor there.
01:33:27.880 So I think it's really dependent upon the national environment.
01:33:31.280 Ted Cruz won by three.
01:33:33.120 So it was a little too tight for comfort, but a win's a win.
01:33:36.460 Here is the thing that has just happened.
01:33:40.580 Paxton was talking about that midterm convention thing they tried, which, I mean, let's face it, was fake news.
01:33:48.300 It's like there's no such thing as a midterm convention.
01:33:50.400 Everyone knew it.
01:33:51.120 It didn't get any ratings, whatever.
01:33:53.680 OK, it gave the Democrats a two point five point bounce in the average of polls, according
01:33:59.880 to Tom Bevan.
01:34:01.140 And Ken Paxton was apparently caught on audio talking to donors about it.
01:34:07.320 It happened in Texas.
01:34:08.300 It took place in Dallas and The New York Times got a hold of the audio.
01:34:12.180 Here's how that sounded.
01:34:13.540 Stop 15.
01:34:14.100 do you feel like and all these guys know um but do you feel like a little bit of a drag
01:34:22.380 so to be honest with you the numbers when we did that convention it dropped our numbers
01:34:28.800 everybody had me got um right now um yeah no not good i wish there was something to do
01:34:37.620 That's Ken Paxton saying, to be honest with you, that when we did that convention, everybody's
01:34:46.240 numbers dropped. I wish there was something we could do to turn it around. But honestly,
01:34:49.680 there's nothing, he says. Trump is going down to Texas to campaign. So clearly he thinks the
01:34:54.800 challenge is real and the exposure is real. James Tallarico, meantime, just dropped this ad
01:35:00.900 against Paxton, trying to paint him as a rich elitist who's out of touch. Watch. 18B.
01:35:08.300 Today on House Hunters, Ken Paxton is looking for a home. Will he choose this $1.5 million
01:35:13.520 McKinney, Texas abode conveniently located near the courthouse where he was indicted for fraud?
01:35:18.700 Yes. Oh, okay. That was easy. I guess he doesn't want this three-story,
01:35:22.620 12-bed luxury lodge in Broken Bow, Oklahoma. Yes. Oh, you want both? All right. There's
01:35:28.200 also this million dollar ocean view property in hawaii absolutely all right and how about one
01:35:32.980 luxury condominium at a high-end wellness resort in utah four four luxury condominiums it is ken
01:35:39.120 paxton owns 15 properties valued at approximately nine million dollars even though he makes just
01:35:44.000 153 000 annually as attorney general so how does he have the money to be building a real estate
01:35:49.080 empire a lot of big corporate interest vote for james tallarico he has one house
01:35:54.240 Effective. Good. Nice messaging. Maybe you're thinking, gee, maybe I'll give him a try. Oh,
01:36:01.160 wait. Then you hear SOT 18 of Tallarico.
01:36:24.240 I want to let her know that our government hears her.
01:36:27.240 Can I count on you to support her? 0.53
01:36:29.560 She's not able to participate in any sports.
01:36:31.780 The way I fought for trans kids in the legislature is how I will fight for the U.S. Senate.
01:36:36.900 And my position hasn't changed.
01:36:38.440 I still think these should be local decisions, sport by sport, athlete by athlete.
01:36:43.540 And I think I have the most inclusive policy of any candidate who's running.
01:36:47.260 I agree.
01:36:47.620 I know things are getting clipped and stuff, but my views, my position hasn't changed.
01:36:51.900 and I'm going to have, I'm going to have your, your loved ones back. Okay.
01:36:55.940 Thank you so much.
01:36:57.140 Thank you. God bless you.
01:36:59.380 Thank you.
01:37:02.240 Even he has no idea what pronoun to use. So it's a no. I mean, that's, it really does drive you to,
01:37:07.240 I don't care about Ken Paxton's houses. I care about daughters not getting the shit kicked out 0.99
01:37:12.420 of them on soccer fields by boys. Well, I thought that was an especially hilarious ad from Tallarico 1.00
01:37:18.140 because he's currently, I believe, being investigated for voting at his mom's house
01:37:23.820 when he was supposed to be running in a different district and claiming a residence that wasn't even there.
01:37:28.880 So, like, he's an adult, I guess, living with his mom.
01:37:32.000 I don't know. I saw that ad. I was like, those are some nice houses.
01:37:34.260 So it could be zero houses.
01:37:35.280 Yeah, I'd like to have a couple of those.
01:37:37.720 Right. Well, they're saying he's corrupt, which, you know, a lot of voters down there do think.
01:37:42.100 Look, these choices, I would say they're not ideal. That's my own takeaway.
01:37:45.260 they're not ideal, but you can't let Tala Frico win. You just, I mean, honestly, you can't. And
01:37:51.280 now let me tell you this, uh, checking in with Calci, they're like a betting market. They report
01:37:57.260 that over the course of the week, Paxton's chances of winning Texas and the Senate race have gone
01:38:02.920 down on Calci. They were at 60, 40 Tala Rico. That was, um, on Monday. Now Tala Rico has gone
01:38:11.540 up to a 65% chance to win. Paxton trading at a 35% chance to win. It's not the same as a code. I
01:38:18.280 mean, as a, as a poll, but it's a betting market where people are actually putting their money
01:38:23.220 behind their predictions. So it's in some ways even more interesting. They are a sponsor of
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01:38:40.280 I want to keep going now. Speaking of Michelle Obama, who is on the sex podcast, she sat down
01:38:47.680 with Sharon Stone and they had a fun little discussion about you terrible men, Sean. Here 0.98
01:38:55.420 it is, SOT 20. If men got pregnant, you could get an abortion from a vending machine. 1.00
01:39:01.460 there would be the birth olympics you know they were they men would film themselves going into
01:39:11.860 labor and honoring their pain and you know it would be there would be trophies given you know
01:39:18.420 well done dude bob you really you know you did that without an epidural would be that when you
01:39:25.380 got the bonus there you go right hey what's that over there win yeah what do you what's that over
01:39:31.780 there what sharon how did you end up in new york um craig's like i've had it with this conversation
01:39:40.340 moving on moving on this is why we don't get help you know they're like well i'm bored with
01:39:45.300 this conversation let's talk about sports moving on i didn't i didn't switch to sports not yet
01:39:51.380 you know why we have maternity leave because of men because our foremothers who were in the
01:40:01.260 workforce went to all the men who ran corporate america and said let's create this thing called
01:40:06.460 maternity leave and the guys at first were like hell no you'll never come back you'll just use it
01:40:11.740 for like a paid vacation and then we're never going to see you again we all know that and the
01:40:15.700 women said, trust us, we will come back. We'll come back. And convinced them to create this
01:40:21.600 policy that actually could work for men and for women and for their little babies. And they did
01:40:29.420 it. And the women who respect what our foremothers did do come back and understand it's important to
01:40:35.520 continue that legacy. And that, like, it's not the evil men who tried to shut that down or have
01:40:42.360 some problem with childbearing or would make abortions available in a vending machine just
01:40:48.200 because they want to get rid of babies because they can't take. It's just, you know, at every
01:40:51.220 turn, they perpetuate the nasty stereotypes, right, about guys, young guys, middle-aged guys,
01:40:58.820 old guys. Yeah, there's a phrase in there that kind of caught me for a second. It was when
01:41:03.480 Sharon Stone said, if men can get pregnant. Now, I have been told for several years now that
01:41:11.500 um women aren't women they're birthing persons um but also men can get pregnant so i i would 1.00
01:41:18.260 i would very much like all the uh trans kooks to go out there and and start going uh crazy on
01:41:25.940 michelle obama because she seemed to to dive into this as well um i do think it's interesting 0.97
01:41:31.340 they're like oh well if men could give birth there would be abortion and vending machine
01:41:34.840 i'm i bet those two uh women are not aware that actually most abortions in this country now
01:41:41.120 are done by pill, that I guess the euphemism is chemical abortion, that people are shipping
01:41:48.740 abortions effectively across state lines all over the country. We actually are in that world now,
01:41:54.400 which I find horrifying that we're so blasé as a culture about just ending innocent human life. 0.96
01:42:00.680 But you know, men cannot get pregnant. And yet we effectively have the equivalent now of abortion 0.61
01:42:06.920 by vending machine, except it's abortion by mailbox. That's a very good point. 0.99
01:42:11.120 Um, another person who was on that sex podcast is Kamala Harris. As I mentioned, she's got a 1.00
01:42:18.260 profundity for you, Sean Davis. Let's listen here in SOT 19. So I'll speak for myself. None of us
01:42:25.520 achieve success without that level of profound support and, and, and reinforcement. Yes. Yes.
01:42:35.180 Right? Around not only a memory of legacy and the path on which you stand that was charted long before you, but also giving you some sense of pride in what can be the destiny and was the destiny that so many fought for.
01:42:50.740 Yeah.
01:42:51.360 Right?
01:42:52.000 Yeah.
01:42:56.660 Yeah.
01:42:57.500 I kind of love her. I'm going to be honest. How many drinks deep do you think she was when that podcast started?
01:43:03.840 Like, first sentence out of the gate, she's already slurring, and then we're getting, like, the Mad Lib poetry in the middle. 0.95
01:43:10.140 Like, Kamala, come back.
01:43:11.880 I want Mamala back. 0.99
01:43:13.300 I want her to be the candidate again, because she's amazing.
01:43:17.080 How many times can you throw out legacy and destiny and hope somebody will bite?
01:43:21.580 And there's the other gal who I don't know who she is.
01:43:24.960 She hosts the Distracted podcast, which seems apt for this gal. 0.93
01:43:29.160 Just going, yeah, yeah.
01:43:31.100 Maybe if I just, like, act stoned like I get it, people will believe I've understood your mess.
01:43:36.940 Profound.
01:43:37.860 Like, man, yeah. 1.00
01:43:41.120 Kamala, the poor woman. 1.00
01:43:43.240 She is, like, the quintessential stupid ideas person of a smart person. 1.00
01:43:48.100 She talks like she's doing the Google autocomplete where just you type in a word and then there's another word and then there's another word. 1.00
01:43:56.000 Like, she doesn't quite know where she's going, but she's pretty sure that destiny has charted her path forward for her.
01:44:02.340 I mean, she is so endlessly entertaining.
01:44:05.380 I wish she was on podcasts all the time. 0.71
01:44:08.380 Yeah.
01:44:09.400 Last but not least, I'll squeeze this in.
01:44:11.640 Halle Berry is in the news because her ex-husband, Olivier Martinez, the guy who starred in the movie Unfaithful as the French lover of Diane Ladd, that's Halle Berry's ex-husband.
01:44:24.600 They're having some massive custody dispute over their shared son, and he accused her in a filing of getting on top of the son, straddling the son, and strangling this 12-year-old child, and then said she drinks too much and shouldn't be allowed, should be forced to be taking drinking tests like breathalyzers before she has access to their son.
01:44:47.440 Her representative now hitting back, claiming these are lies, we deny them all, and that he's a violent man.
01:44:56.260 Those are the real issues.
01:44:57.460 The judge did not require that she have to have her sobriety be monitored, citing insufficient information about that.
01:45:08.000 But this is the second very brutal custody battle she's had.
01:45:12.160 She has another ex, Gabrielle Aubrey, and those two got locked in a bitter custody battle.
01:45:19.040 She wound up having to pay him quite a hefty amount over their daughter, Nala.
01:45:23.540 So I don't know, Sean, to me, this is just a reminder of the good old Judge Judy.
01:45:28.200 You're supposed to love your child more than you hate your ex.
01:45:32.320 And these folks would do well to remember that.
01:45:34.180 Yeah, I wish we could go back to where nobody knew anything about anyone else's divorce filings.
01:45:39.280 There's so many lies that get thrown into these things.
01:45:42.160 on both sides. It ends up becoming just awful war with children caught in the middle. I don't want
01:45:48.740 to know. I don't think anyone else wants to know. You can't trust any of it, quite honestly, because
01:45:54.580 it seems like people will say or do anything once they hit these battles. So anytime we get into
01:46:01.080 that, it just makes me sad. It's also a reminder to not get your cues on social behavior and
01:46:06.840 parenting and marriage from Hollywood celebrities. Amen. Great to see you. Have a great weekend.
01:46:12.160 all of you do as well, and we'll see you Monday. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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