As President-elect Donald Trump's cabinet takes shape, we are expecting a brutal confirmation process. And while we ve spent a lot of time discussing the controversies surrounding Pete Hegseth and Matt Gaetz, we wanted to take a deep dive into the man listeners of this show know well as RFKJ. He s been tasked with leading the Make America Healthy Again, or MAHA, movement right on as the Secretary of Health and Human Services. And the D.C. establishment is having a full on meltdown.
00:00:24.040And while we've spent a lot of time discussing the controversies around Pete Hegseth and Matt Gaetz, we wanted to take a deep dive into the man listeners of this show know well as RFKJ.
00:00:35.780He's been tasked with leading the Make America Healthy Again, or MAHA, movement right on as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
00:00:44.000And the D.C. establishment is having a full-on meltdown over it.
00:00:47.080But I'll tell you right now, he's going to get through.
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00:04:04.940This person is about to be sworn in and wants access to the bathroom Nancy Mace uses and that I would use if I were there visiting the people I know in Congress.
00:04:16.460And I'm sorry, but there's a place for you, sir.
00:05:46.180Now, Nancy Mace introduces this resolution.
00:05:51.460I want to get the wording right because she submitted this and then she's changed it since to say, OK, it doesn't have to be a doesn't have to be legislation.
00:06:01.580But I want to at least a rule or it was a two page resolution to amend the rules of the U.S. House that would prohibit anyone from using the single sex facilities there that don't correspond to their biological sex.
00:06:20.640Now it appears she's shifted a bit and said, I just want to see my proposal reflected in the House rules package for the 119th Congress that's going to get sworn in in January.
00:06:31.440That makes more sense that that doesn't force everybody in Congress to vote on this thing.
00:06:37.720And it just says to Speaker Johnson, could you please take care of this by making it a rule, which makes perfect sense and protects women that we don't have to fight over.
00:07:10.800I mean, I could find you a contractor who will go and build you a bathroom, a stall that you can call gender neutral before January 6th, and this person can use it.
00:07:23.520Don't tell me you don't have it or you can't find the money for it.
00:08:20.820Most of the people out there do not know all the facts that the people who listen to this show know.
00:08:25.040I feel like you guys know this at the back of your hands at this point because you've been listening to the show, most of you, for a long time.
00:08:29.820Forgive me to the audience members who are relatively new to the show.
00:08:33.260But like most people do not have any idea what we've been talking about here for the past four years.
00:08:39.260And so I've been tweeting some of these things out.
00:08:42.020It's amazing to see people's response like, oh, wow.
00:08:47.740For example, that a very high percentage, Dr. Blanchard, who was a preeminent researcher on the trans community, puts it at over 90 percent.
00:09:02.380So, irrespective of that finding, it is indisputably an alarmingly high percentage of so-called trans people, and here I am speaking of those who are men posing as females, that are, in fact, autogynophiles.
00:09:18.500An autogynophile is a man who gets sexually aroused by dressing as a woman, picturing himself as a woman, looking at himself in the mirror and seeing someone who appears female.
00:09:33.760He gets an erection thinking about it and doing it.
00:09:37.100I don't want that next to me at work, in the airport, in a schoolroom, or anywhere.
00:09:45.400And I certainly don't want it next to my daughter.
00:09:48.500Nancy Mace, controversial though she is, has every right to say, I do not wish to share the bathroom with a man in a dress.
00:09:59.280I don't want to share one with a man not in a dress, and I don't want to share one with a man in one.
00:10:04.440And I certainly don't want to participate in any man's, I don't know what this particular person's story is, any man's sexual fetish or delusion.
00:10:16.240I am there doing the people's business.
00:10:19.820I have important work to do, and I wish not to be distracted by someone getting off on the fact that he's in my kind of clothing in the stall next to me.
00:10:31.980You look at Leah Thomas' social media.
00:10:38.960The Daily Wire did an in-depth report on Leah Thomas, the swimmer at UPenn, who stole Riley Gaines' fifth-place medal and other first-place medals at the NCAA Championships a couple of years ago.
00:10:53.520They reported that this belonged to Leah Thomas, formerly Will.
00:10:57.680Leah slash Will has never come out to dispute it or challenge it.
00:11:02.560We've reported their reporting on the show.
00:11:05.920Very open-minded to your denial, Leah Thomas, if this is in fact wrong.
00:11:09.840But they did an in-depth report on his social media, and it is deeply disturbing.
00:11:15.540It shows all sorts of autogynophile porn.
00:11:19.220And I'm not going to give you the details, but it's a lot of little figures, you know, cartoon-esque figures in dresses appearing like women with erect penises and somebody doing something to them sexually or them doing something to somebody else sexually.
00:11:37.920It is not this innocent, like, oh, I'm so sorry.
00:11:40.080It's not like being gay, where you're born with it, you're not going to hurt anybody, you just have a different preference sexually than somebody else.
00:11:48.400This is something that is a fetish that can be arousing in the most normal of circumstances in terms of your surroundings and that you work out by dressing up in a costume that looks female while you're around other females who have no idea that you're in the middle of some fetish.
00:12:14.500Not all trans people, but a high percentage of them.
00:12:17.180And what Blanchard said was the remainder are homosexuals.
00:12:23.000They're gay, feminine boys who grow up to believe that, in fact, they're girls.
00:12:30.140And then when they start dressing like a woman, they'll stay gay.
00:12:34.920Look, there's a lot of research on this that people haven't seen because no one wants to talk about it.
00:12:38.940But there's no doubt in my mind that Leo Thomas is an autogynophile and was parading around that locker room around Riley Gaines and her other teammates who were in, you know, masking tape like bathing suits because they were fierce competitors.
00:12:54.040And the less bathing suit, the less bathing suit, the better to swim fast in his masking tape type bathing suit and was undoubtedly aroused by it.
00:13:05.920So why do we have to subject girls to that?
00:13:26.060It's all the women on Capitol Hill and all the staffers.
00:13:28.840And I believe it goes beyond that because her resolution was to prohibit house employees from using single sex facilities other than those that correspond to their biological sex, saying that biological males should not be allowed into women's single sex facilities.
00:13:47.260Then it says that it would ban transgender so-called women from women's restrooms at the U.S. Capitol, which suggests to me it goes beyond just the facilities used by members and their staff.
00:15:47.720Speaker Johnson, your bathroom is secure.
00:15:50.600You don't have to worry about someone who is much larger than the average woman parading, or than the average man, parading in there, posing as a man.
00:16:01.780But really, it turns out to be someone who could crush you with one blow of his fist, just because he wants to.
00:16:19.740It was Katie Herzog, who was saying, oh, would you want to make a male to female trans person who looks, let me reverse that, a female to male trans person who looks male.
00:16:37.480So it's a woman pretending to be a man, but the woman's pulling it off.
00:16:41.980And she raised a particular woman who does look very manly, who's bald, who's got big muscles, who's got lots of black tats all over her.
00:16:52.540Would you make her use the women's bathroom?
00:16:55.620And I said the truth, which is, look, on principle, yes, I would make her use the bathroom that corresponds with her biological sex.
00:17:02.300But if this woman wants to go into the male bathroom and people are fooled into thinking that she is a he, I really, that there's nothing I can do about that.
00:17:11.540And I'm not going to waste my time thinking about that.
00:17:13.820But the other thing is, the problem doesn't go the other way.
00:17:17.820That women are not exploiting these permissive laws, rules, and new mores to go into men's rooms and get off on the fact that they're in a men's room.
00:17:32.300Or to go into a men's room and actually hurt a woman or a man who is in the men's room.
00:17:50.020The number of women who have been hurt, attacked, or sexually assaulted by men who are either taking advantage of these rules or who are actually just exploiting them.
00:18:03.980This is a graphic of just some of those who have been accused and gotten in trouble for doing this.
00:18:11.280For going, for example, into the women's restroom and getting caught taking a mirror and sliding it underneath the bathroom stall divider so he could get a glimpse of the next woman with her pants down or her skirt up doing her business.
00:18:29.260That I don't want to have to worry about that.
00:18:33.580Now, there's every chance that a regular man could just sneak into an airport bathroom.
00:20:54.640Women deserve to have their own private, safe and secure spaces.
00:20:58.800Because we deserve not to be to have our risk of attack elevated as a result of a different rule that allows men in.
00:21:06.860And we deserve to have our peace of mind just knowing that we're in female only spaces.
00:21:11.080We don't have to approve attacks or a pattern of violence, though there is one.
00:21:16.500We don't have to prove that is enough for us to say we don't want it.
00:21:21.880We want female only spaces to remain female, period.
00:21:26.300And if you get bullied into allowing men in, including this newly elected man from Delaware,
00:21:35.040you are siding with men who suffer from a mental disorder over women who are simply asking for the privacy and security we've had for decades.
00:23:22.840The radical left is calling me an extremist for being a feminist, fighting to protect the rights of women and girls.
00:23:29.300If being a feminist makes me an extremist or a bigot or a monster, I am totally here for it because I'm going to fight like hell for every woman and every little girl across this country to protect you and keep you safe.
00:33:16.040That's like saying all drugs are good.
00:33:18.480The right vaccine for the right person at the right time can be of tremendous benefit.
00:33:23.300But the wrong vaccine for the wrong person at the wrong time can be really harmful.
00:33:27.820So young women in this country were harmed by J&J, particularly women between the ages of 18 and 25.
00:33:33.260And young men were harmed by Moderna and Pfizer.
00:33:36.400And one of the things Robert F. Kennedy wants to do is remove a 1986 law that prevents parents from suing the company that makes the product only for vaccines.
00:35:23.120And this is one of the things that leads them to say, he's a kook.
00:35:26.740So what of fluoride in the drinking water?
00:35:28.920Yeah, so the purpose of my piece is really to argue, and I'll come to fluoride, is really to argue that you can't be a kook if there are many European nations already doing the policy that you suggest.
00:35:46.060Let's look at his ideas and go idea by idea.
00:35:48.560RFK Jr., like a lot of people, might have a bunch of ideas that are really good and promising, and maybe a few ideas that are debatable and a few ideas that are bad.
00:35:58.540But we should be able to take the good from what he's saying and, you know, question him on the other things.
00:36:05.820Do other nations take the fluoride out of the water?
00:36:08.200There are many nations, including Germany and other European nations, that do not put fluoride in the water.
00:36:13.280So there is no global consensus that you should put fluoride in the water.
00:36:17.340There's some other pieces about fluoride that are interesting to me.
00:36:20.400One, when we originally put fluoride in the water, there were lots of cavities and caries among children.
00:36:26.320And the idea of putting fluoride in the water is that pregnant women drink water, they'll take up fluoride, their babies will be born with stronger enamel, and they'll be less likely to get cavities.
00:36:35.160What we have seen over the course of the last 40, 50, 60, 70 years is there is a reduction in childhood cavities in nations that have added fluoride to the water and in nations that haven't added fluoride to the water.
00:36:46.380The most recent Cochrane Review, which is a prestigious evidence-based association guidance on this topic, says we don't know for sure what the absolute benefit is of fluoride in drinking water on children's cavities.
00:36:58.360We also know that by putting fluoride in the water, there are lots and lots of people who are exposed to it who may not be the beneficiaries of the reduction in cavities.
00:37:08.140The other difference, we use a lot more fluoride-containing toothpaste now than we used to, and so that's a way in which cavities are getting better and fluoride is getting to teeth anyway.
00:37:16.480Now, in terms of the questions about does it affect cognition and IQ, that's a very tough, obviously a tough question to tackle.
00:37:22.500I think Robert F. Kennedy is correct that at very high doses, fluoride is a neurotoxin.
00:37:27.780At the doses people get exposed to, does it have an impact on cognition?
00:37:31.600I've looked through a bunch of studies.
00:37:32.760My team is going to do a review of this.
00:37:35.720But I think the point is, if Robert F. Kennedy comes in and he says municipal water plants should be discouraged from putting in fluoride, we all know what's going to happen, Megan.
00:37:46.520The same thing that happened when Trump said we should reopen schools, all of the red districts will take the fluoride out of the water and all of the liberal districts will probably put more fluoride in the water.
00:37:56.440You know, they might even, you might even add a little fluoride to the water.
00:37:59.800And so I think that you'll get a very split, a split view.
00:38:03.080But people who want a fear monger and say RFK Jr. is going to come in and take the fluoride out of your water, I think that's not what's going to happen.
00:38:09.840And I also think there's a legitimate debate here.
00:38:11.900There's a reason why some countries are not putting it in.
00:38:14.400And we should have that debate and not call him a kook for bringing up the topic.
00:38:19.040You point out in your piece that while, yes, at high levels, it's disturbing, it's potentially disturbing, you're right.
00:38:25.660Other researchers found that even fluoride levels within the legal range were associated with that risk of, you know, it being a neurotoxin.
00:38:34.800And one study of American mothers found that pregnant women who drank fluoridated water were more likely to give birth to children with lower IQs.
00:38:41.960And this is probably why they banned it or they don't use it in Germany, Norway, and Sweden.
00:39:03.520The biggest thing with RFKJ is the thing I spent two hours talking to him about, and that is his skepticism about the MMR vaccines that we give our kids when they're born.
00:39:15.260And he fought to get thimerosal out of the vaccines, which has mercury.
00:39:21.320He did not accept the protestations that it was not a problematic form of mercury.
00:39:25.560And, indeed, they did wind up removing it.
00:39:29.780And he's had some questions about vaccines, but he told me personally he had all of his kids vaxxed with all the MMR stuff.
00:39:35.760So what about his stance on MMR vaccines?
00:39:39.980So I think it's quite interesting, and I have sort of a middle-of-the-road nuanced position on him.
00:39:46.920I think on the particular question, is the MMR vaccine linked to autism?
00:39:50.940On that question, I think there's a number of studies that, in my mind, show pretty convincingly that it is not linked to autism.
00:39:58.260But on the broader vaccine questions, why does the United States have vaccines that we don't give in Sweden, we don't give in Switzerland, we don't give in Germany?
00:40:07.320Are vaccine schedules more aggressive?
00:40:09.020There are differences across countries.
00:40:10.800Are there side effects of vaccines that we might be missing or underappreciating?
00:40:14.960Is there more work that needs to be done to optimize vaccine safety and efficacy on this sort of global question?
00:40:22.020I think RFK Jr. has an important point.
00:40:24.060As you know, Megan, in this country, there were two safety signals from COVID-19 vaccines that we talked a lot about.
00:40:30.040One was the one you mentioned, myocarditis.
00:40:31.860The other was something called thrombocytopenic thrombosis that occurred with the Johnson & Johnson and AstraZeneca vaccines.
00:40:39.080Those safety signals were not first discovered in the United States.
00:40:42.360Our CDC was not the first one to tell us about it.
00:40:45.240The myocarditis signal came from the Israelis.
00:50:55.460But if you wanted to place a bet, I think it'd be a pretty good bet to say he's going to make it, especially given the groundswell of support behind him and how important his endorsement was.
00:51:10.760But who delivered votes, who actually inspired people to turn out of the polls who might otherwise not have for Trump or might not have turned out at all?
00:51:21.260Who inspired Nicole Shanahan to get off the couch and start using her enormous good fortune to make those very powerful ads for Trump?
00:51:29.280That, you know, she's been on the program a couple of times.
00:51:35.580And so good luck to you if you're going to try to stop him, because America has said they might not want him in the top job, though they weren't really given the option thanks to the Democrats.
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00:53:15.940That is the main feeling, the dominant tenor of the feeling that I'm feeling right now.
00:53:21.100Because I have devoted my adult life to trying to probe the real root causes of why Americans are sick right now and why health is getting absolutely destroyed in this country for children and adults.
00:53:35.080And that journey, of course, as we talked about in our last episode, pulled me away from the conventional health care system.
00:53:40.320I left my career as a surgeon and I devoted my life to figuring out why are Americans getting destroyed at such higher rates than other countries?
00:53:49.100And the reality is it's metabolic dysfunction.
00:53:52.380It's a mismatch between the environment we're living in and what our cells actually need to thrive.
00:53:57.500And unfortunately, that's been almost completely absent from the conversation about health for many, many years.
00:54:03.700And so the fact that RFK is talking about this and he's really created vision and clarity for what we can do with the incredible health resources we have in this country.
00:54:15.080And, you know, unfortunately, the media has been picking apart just fringe aspects of what he talks about.
00:54:22.440But I think the vision is so clear and so bold.
00:54:43.400You've talked about this so much on your show, but there is just unbelievable conflicts of interest in the FDA, the CDC, the NIH.
00:54:50.440We've got to get those conflicts of interest out so that it's clean.
00:54:53.740The second thing we need to do is then produce uncompromised, evidence-based research, keyword uncompromised,
00:55:03.200that actually sets the health standards and guidelines for our health in America.
00:55:07.100And the third is to, in the next two years, reverse the trends of the chronic disease epidemic destroying health in children and adults so that we can actually show up for the 250th birthday of America stronger than ever.
00:55:23.700This is something we can all get behind.
00:55:25.880And so that vision that has actually been absent from the conversation in the past four years is just making me feel incredibly hopeful.
00:56:19.040I think a lot of people feel something.
00:56:20.480There's a crack that has opened in the zeitgeist, in the consciousness, in the culture, where people have realized that things are not going well.
00:56:31.140We're facing, I would say, non-hyperbolically extinction-level trends in our health right now.
00:56:38.280And so from my perspective, it's all hands on deck, every single person, every parent, every teen, every, you know, person who has the ability to help us move health in the right direction we need to with our voices, with our actions.
00:57:03.820But God bless you if you agree to serve.
00:57:05.700I realize you have a great life in California right now, and you've set things up perfectly for you to be practicing medicine the way you want.
00:57:35.840There's zero chance he's going to be able to undo these conflicts of interest and the power of big ag and these Republican, even lawmakers, who are, you know, take, have a lot of big donors in these industries.
00:57:54.680The big one that I think people can understand is the FDA and how, you know, Scott Gottlieb was running it under Trump and then left to go work for Pfizer.
00:58:07.780What are the odds that, you know, he's going to be cracking down on Pfizer when he realizes he's going to get a huge paycheck from them when he leaves?
00:58:18.380The odds are in his favor that he's going to get, he's going to make bank as soon as he leaves this government job.
00:58:21.880Can we really trust him when he's running the FDA?
00:58:28.060We made a big deal out of that movie when it first came out.
00:58:30.180We had on Danny Strong, who's the writer and executive producer of it and actually also starred in Gilmore Girls, which he was amazing in.
00:58:37.220Anyway, he was on the program talking about the conflict of interest there and the opioid crisis between the FDA and the approvals that were given to Big Pharma and the Sackler family business when it came to OxyContin.
00:58:57.060I'm just going to show a couple of soundbites that bring that home.
00:58:59.640Here's Danny Strong on our show in episode 229.
00:59:03.320It goes beyond a criminal company and it goes beyond the dishonesty of a few people.
00:59:11.600It ends up tying into the very broken nature of our government's relationship with private industry.
00:59:19.280And that if someone could have a job at the FDA in which they are directly overseeing pharma companies,
00:59:27.740and then they can immediately go work for those pharma companies, the revolving door, you end up with situations like what happened here where people are working at the FDA thinking either,
00:59:39.020A, there's a job for me at Purdue Pharma when I get out, or B, a job at a consulting company that can be hired by Purdue Pharma.
00:59:47.240Or in some, in one case, a person was put on a board at Tufts University that Purdue Pharma was in charge of that board.
00:59:54.680So there's all sorts of goodies to be had for your career, your future, your pocketbook by playing ball with Purdue Pharma.
01:00:02.760And I think that, I think looking at the revolving door, coming up with new rules that can not enable someone to oversee their warning label and then go work for them within 18 months.
01:00:15.120She could have gone work for them the next day.
01:00:18.460Okay, so Danny Strong is a Trump voter.
01:00:34.800And he wrote this amazing article in the Free Press that everyone should read.
01:00:38.320But he highlights actually some of the most recent ones.
01:00:41.060You know, Mark McClellan, FDA commissioner, George Bush, now on the board of Johnson & Johnson.
01:00:45.580Scott Gottlieb, head of the FDA during the Trump administration, on the board of Pfizer now.
01:00:49.900Stephen Hahn, who succeeded Gottlieb, now the CEO of flagship pioneering, a VC firm behind Moderna.
01:00:56.300So we're talking three massive pharmaceutical companies, all vaccine manufacturers, revolving door between FDA and these companies, huge, huge money in this, obviously.
01:01:11.920And actually, Vinay's research team published that 60% of FDA cancer drug reviewers go to work in biopharma when they leave the agency.
01:01:20.360So as someone who is, you know, a future, hopefully soon to be mother, who's going to be making decisions about vaccines for my own children, the idea that the FDA that's regulating the vaccines is a revolving door with the companies who make them and that 75% of the FDA's drug budget comes from pharmaceutical companies.
01:01:39.280And then there's this weird, you know, crosstalk between the CDC and the FDA where the CDC is then jamming a vaccine schedule down our throat that's bigger than most other countries in the world.
01:01:50.020And then we can't question it or else we're called, you know, we're shamed for being terrible anti-vax people.
01:01:55.940It's like this is a really weird situation that we're in.
01:01:59.000And like Vinay said earlier, it's like the fact that someone's talking about this and questioning it, then add on the fact that these companies have legal immunity for wrongdoing and harm.
01:02:11.000We're living in a bizarro world, you know, and I think I think Americans just said enough of this.
01:02:15.800Like there's almost this assumption that we're dumb, you know, and that we can't understand what's going on.
01:02:23.020Um, well, well, it's true that we're too busy to pay attention to it, right?
01:02:27.700I mean, like the average person is not, they had, they know nothing about the FDA because they don't care to know.
01:02:33.640They have so many other things to worry about.
01:02:35.920And there's been prior to COVID, at least a trust in government.
01:02:42.440I'm not going to worry about this stuff.
01:02:44.440Only now I think are people like, holy shit, I do need to worry.
01:02:47.780Well, thank God for independent media, you know, because I think a lot of this is getting out, I think, on shows like yours and other amazing independent media platforms where even the sheer facts of what's happening with American health trends, I feel like are almost even the facts that non-controversial facts are not being talked about enough.
01:03:09.540Like, why is it not front page news that infertility is going up 1% per year?
01:03:14.200Why is it not front page news that sperm counts are going down 1% per year?
01:03:18.000Why is it not front page news that 75% of Americans have overweight or obesity, that 52% of American adults have type 2 diabetes, that 30% of teens have prediabetes, that autoimmune diseases are going up 12% per year, that 77% of young adults can't serve in the military because of obesity or drug abuse, that, you know, one in 22 kids in California have autism.
01:03:37.740And this is skyrocketing, that one in 22 adults are going to get cancer in their lifetime, skyrocketing, young adult cancer is up 79%.
01:03:59.220And so this is now, there is an avenue because of the beauty of independent media for this to actually be surfaced.
01:04:06.640And when people hear it, they know, they see it, that this is truth.
01:04:12.060And so I think, yeah, I just think it's a very, very exciting time where there's almost like an awakening happening.
01:04:19.280And, you know, there are such a focus on some of the more minutiae of things that RFK has said.
01:04:27.580But I think we all need to orient towards the big picture vision.
01:04:32.340American health is being destroyed by chronic illness, which is rooted in diet, lifestyle, environmental toxins, and overuse of medications.
01:04:39.060And we've got to talk about that at the highest level.
01:04:47.840And whether people like him or not, Trump's, I think, purpose on this planet is to go up against, you know, he wants to fight against, you know, corporate interests.
01:04:58.920And he, you know, this populist movement has been about that.
01:05:07.320So I think there's an—and he has seen the light, I think, from RFK that this chronic health issue is a massive issue.
01:05:13.100You saw him hold up that chart on Joe Rogan.
01:05:15.400He was clearly touched by this issue that life expectancy in the U.S. is the lowest of all developed high-income nations.
01:05:25.300And we're spending 2x on health care than any other country.
01:05:28.440He is seeing this light, I think, in part because of what RFK has brought to the forefront and what independent media has helped put forward.
01:05:58.040You know, I have not been watching Fox News.
01:06:00.500I don't watch cable news anymore at all.
01:06:01.700But I guarantee you Fox News has gotten not positive on RFKJ.
01:06:05.900I guarantee you because Pfizer's a big advertiser over there.
01:06:08.460And I just wonder, like, I haven't checked the Wall Street Journal or the New York Post on RFKJ, but I'm just going to predict they're not going to be in his corner.
01:06:17.120Because they're all owned by the same company.
01:07:36.620Why isn't the CDC relying on its own study to allow us to unmask our children?
01:07:41.200My policy prescription would be that in the setting of a very contagious variant,
01:07:44.500that we don't know how hard or easy it's going to be to control in a school setting,
01:07:48.380where the imperative is to keep kids in the classroom and also keep them safe.
01:07:52.020We should go into this school year adopting all the reasonable measures that we can take and peel them away as we see how successful we are.
01:08:32.820You know, and I think it's so interesting.
01:08:35.560Like, I think as I've been digging even more, because I think something so funny that's happening right now with the whole pushback to RFK,
01:08:44.500and you talked about this a little with Vinay, but like, there's this whole thing about RFK is a lawyer.
01:09:26.460It's about Biden, Harris, what they've done.
01:09:28.960And it's all about increased access to health care services, expanding access to medication, and expanding the health care workforce.
01:09:38.720Nothing wrong with those things, but what it's doing is continuing the gaslighting of not talking about the root causes, not talking about the elephant in the room, which is the chronic disease epidemic.