The Megyn Kelly Show - October 17, 2025


Mamdani vs. Cuomo, Michelle Obama's New Whining, and Bombshell UFO Reporting, with Victor Davis Hanson | Ep 1174


Episode Stats

Length

2 hours and 23 minutes

Words per Minute

169.9663

Word Count

24,419

Sentence Count

1,069

Misogynist Sentences

55

Hate Speech Sentences

42


Summary

On today's show, Megyn talks about the Virginia AG Debates, Muslim socialist Zoran Mamdani's attack on Andrew Cuomo for not visiting a mosque, and President Trump critic John Bolton's denial of a charge of mishandling classified information.


Transcript

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00:01:00.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.
00:01:06.320 Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.
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00:01:15.780 The one and only Virginia Attorney General debate was last night, where Democrat Jay Jones was confronted
00:01:22.080 about his texts fantasizing about killing Republicans and their children, in which he doubled and then
00:01:29.100 tripled down on that sentiment in his exchange with a Republican lawmaker in Virginia.
00:01:33.560 That, however, was not last night's only debate.
00:01:36.920 Last night in New York City, the mayoral candidates squared off, where Muslim socialist Zoran Mamdani criticized Andrew Cuomo for not visiting a mosque.
00:01:47.300 What in the actual F?
00:01:49.920 Since when do American politicians have to go visit a mosque in order to be considered viable candidates for office?
00:01:56.960 In New York, by the way?
00:01:59.240 Okay, 24 years after 9-11, it's at that.
00:02:02.920 You have to go visit a mosque to be met?
00:02:04.780 No, you don't.
00:02:06.260 And Andrew Cuomo, grow a pair.
00:02:08.660 Why don't you look over at him and say, I don't have to go visit a mosque, all right?
00:02:14.160 I live in America.
00:02:15.360 It's a Christian nation.
00:02:16.720 I'm fine with Muslims, but I certainly don't need to go and listen to Allahu Akbar while people are on their knees five times a day in order to run this city.
00:02:25.560 Zoran.
00:02:27.040 It's like everybody was ridiculous last night.
00:02:29.400 Curtis Lewa was the only one who you could possibly see doing this job.
00:02:33.860 He was totally likable, but of course he has no chance because it's New York and they, while they used to sometimes elect more moderate Republicans like Giuliani and Bloomberg was at first and went independent.
00:02:45.940 Now they wouldn't.
00:02:47.100 Now they just won't.
00:02:48.620 They're intent on self-destruction.
00:02:51.560 So this guy Zoran Mamdani is going to win.
00:02:54.300 And then I guess we're all going to have to visit mosques if he has his vision.
00:02:57.660 Plus, President Trump critic John Bolton is now facing decades in prison for allegedly mishandling classified information.
00:03:06.360 He denies he did it.
00:03:07.420 Well, no, he actually technically doesn't deny it.
00:03:10.200 I mean, if you listen to our AM update this morning, which you should, we laid out his denial.
00:03:15.360 And it is a classic example in deception, in my opinion.
00:03:19.940 And you know that I've taken the Phil Houston class repeatedly.
00:03:22.600 He's the human lie detector, CIA deception detection architect, 25 years there, unearthing double agents and cross-examining bad guys and terrorists, Gitmo and beyond.
00:03:34.420 And Phil Houston, I mean, I can't wait to show this statement to him of John Bolton's denial, quote unquote denial.
00:03:41.780 There's no denial in it.
00:03:43.100 He does not deny that he printed out, kept and transmitted classified information, which is what he's accused of.
00:03:49.980 He says his behavior was lawful.
00:03:52.580 He gets into talking about his character.
00:03:55.160 Hello, that is a red flag.
00:03:58.540 We've talked about this.
00:03:59.800 If you say to me, Megan, did you rob the bank this morning?
00:04:04.200 I don't say, I'm a good person.
00:04:06.960 My parents would never raise a bank robber.
00:04:09.480 It would be wrong to rob a bank.
00:04:11.460 I say, no, I didn't rob the bank, period.
00:04:15.320 Listen for this one simple thing, because it's such an easy method of, you know, detecting potentially deception.
00:04:23.500 The true Phil Houston way is there have to be at least two of these signs of deception within the first five seconds of the question being asked.
00:04:32.780 That's generally how it goes.
00:04:33.780 But you can apply it to a written statement.
00:04:35.220 So, you know, the timing thing is flexible and you would look for multiple signs of deception, which there were, which there were in his statement.
00:04:42.920 The other thing he does is he goes on the attack against Trump.
00:04:45.160 That's another sign of a liar.
00:04:47.440 This is my opinion.
00:04:48.340 He may be telling the truth.
00:04:49.240 I don't think so.
00:04:49.900 But it's, again, back to my bank example, I wouldn't then say, and you're a bad person for raising this.
00:04:58.580 You're constantly accusing others.
00:05:01.100 And you used to beat people up when we knew each other back in middle school.
00:05:04.280 So you're nasty.
00:05:06.140 You're in no position to cast aspersions at me.
00:05:08.960 What is, I wouldn't say that.
00:05:11.260 I'd say I didn't rob a bank.
00:05:12.920 No, I didn't do it.
00:05:15.440 I might say, go look at my phone records.
00:05:19.020 It'll show you exactly where I was.
00:05:20.220 Something like that resorts to proof.
00:05:23.280 Something that would uphold truth.
00:05:26.660 That's what a truth teller does.
00:05:28.120 They run to the thing that will unearth what is real.
00:05:30.580 They don't go into character defenses and go on offense attacking this person.
00:05:35.400 It's just not how a truth teller sounds.
00:05:37.140 And that the Bolton statement is a classic example in all of it.
00:05:40.320 And it doesn't even have a denial of the actual charges.
00:05:43.560 He says he behaved lawfully.
00:05:45.120 Seems to be a characterization of his conduct.
00:05:48.800 Not a denial that he engaged in it.
00:05:51.540 So, all right.
00:05:52.200 We'll get back to that.
00:05:53.900 Also, J-Lo's back in the news complaining about never truly being loved.
00:05:57.000 Not by one of her, I think, six, five or six husbands.
00:06:00.700 Maybe four.
00:06:01.440 And the other two are fiancés.
00:06:03.260 We'll get into it.
00:06:04.280 But very interesting soundbite.
00:06:07.120 And my favorite soundbite of the day, and it's perfect for our guest today, Michelle Obama.
00:06:13.180 Wait until I show you the Michelle Obama, the pair of soundbites that we have queued up for her.
00:06:18.500 There's no one better to discuss all of this.
00:06:20.700 And I mean that.
00:06:22.140 Nobody uses my next guest in the right way, in my view, because he's an expert on so much.
00:06:27.200 They stay always with the hard news.
00:06:28.580 But he always has something interesting to say when you talk to him about things happening in our culture.
00:06:34.360 From J-Lo to Meghan Markle and beyond, I speak, of course, of Victor Davis Hanson.
00:06:40.440 He is a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution and host of Victor Davis Hanson,
00:06:46.100 In His Own Words, which is a new show on The Daily Signal.
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00:08:23.640 VDH, great to see you.
00:08:24.640 Welcome to the show.
00:08:25.880 Thank you for having me, Megan.
00:08:27.780 Yeah, congrats on the new show.
00:08:29.180 So you're, is it, because you already have a podcast.
00:08:31.560 So is this a new one?
00:08:32.020 Yeah, we did.
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00:08:37.840 But as you know, when you move, there's all these keys and everything and the name.
00:08:42.220 And so it was kind of complicated.
00:08:43.660 But we're now, after a two-week hiatus, we're back.
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00:08:53.540 Um, okay, this is, there's so much goodness for us today, Victor.
00:08:56.580 I'm so excited to have you here.
00:08:58.160 Might as well kick it off with the mayoral race, because that debate was actually very interesting.
00:09:02.220 Just the personalities that were on stage, really interesting.
00:09:05.960 Um, I thought it was interesting how Curtis Lewa kept saying, this one's the architect, and this one's the apprentice.
00:09:12.720 Like, Cuomo is the architect of all these terrible policies, and Zoram Mamdani wants to continue them all, but has no experience to do it.
00:09:19.700 He sounded somewhat reasonable, though, didn't want to kick the illegals out of New York.
00:09:25.040 But, you know, people were raining hell on him, Sliwa, for that.
00:09:27.880 But it's like, that's what a Republican looks like in New York who could even be considered.
00:09:32.260 You can't sound like Tom Homan and even have any hope.
00:09:35.500 So he did what he needed to do for where he's going in this race.
00:09:39.940 Okay, but the real contest was between Cuomo and Mamdani to see if Cuomo could unseat Mamdani and make some sort of headway to change the dynamics of this race in which he's behind by some 15 points.
00:09:55.400 So that's the question.
00:09:57.420 Did that happen?
00:09:58.140 I'm going to kick it off with some sound.
00:10:00.000 Here is, well, I guess we might as well start with number one since I teased it.
00:10:04.620 Here it is.
00:10:05.020 You know, it took Andrew Cuomo being beaten by a Muslim candidate in the Democratic primary for him to set foot in a mosque.
00:10:12.360 He had more than 10 years, and he couldn't name a single mosque at the last debate we had that he visited.
00:10:17.720 And what Muslims want in this city is what every community wants and deserves.
00:10:21.420 They want equality and they want respect.
00:10:23.560 And it took me to get you to even see those Muslims as part of this city.
00:10:27.840 And that, frankly, is something that is shameful and is why so many New Yorkers have lost faith in this politics.
00:10:33.640 Yeah, except that is totally false.
00:10:36.400 I worked with the Muslim community for many, many years.
00:10:39.360 Name a single mosque you went to when you were the governor.
00:10:41.800 Can you name a single mosque you went to in 10 years?
00:10:43.860 Before you were ever here.
00:10:45.960 Before I was here.
00:10:47.200 Before you were even in state government.
00:10:48.900 I worked with the Muslim community.
00:10:51.260 Imams presided over state of the states.
00:10:54.700 We worked in religious working groups, tolerance groups, anti-Semitic groups, etc.
00:10:59.480 Victor, what is this?
00:11:04.260 I'm sorry, but what is this?
00:11:06.120 We are not a majority Muslim nation.
00:11:08.120 We're not a majority Muslim city in New York.
00:11:10.860 We're 24 years post getting attacked by radical Muslims.
00:11:15.980 And now somehow you have to swing by a mosque and be able to name it in order to be the New York City mayor.
00:11:21.520 It's ridiculous, but you're right on your initial comment.
00:11:27.180 He kind of blew it.
00:11:28.660 He could have said, I don't have to have a performance art appearance to tolerate everybody and treat everybody equitably.
00:11:35.720 What I don't do is showboating and virtue signaling.
00:11:39.380 He could have said something like that, but he kind of accepted the charge and then he tried to contextualize it and say, well, I did other things.
00:11:46.560 He should have gone right back and he said, how welcome would you be in a synagogue given what you've said about Jews and what you've said about you're going to arrest Netanyahu, head of government.
00:11:56.540 He could have said a lot of things, but that's a tragedy of this whole race that if you look at the people who are running against him and you, even Eric Adams, you added those three totalities up.
00:12:06.680 They had a greater margin than Mondami did, but they couldn't just, they can't find a viable conservative, not even conservative, centrist candidate without baggage or that has name recognition.
00:12:20.900 I like Sola like you do, but he's not going to win.
00:12:24.180 And they needed somebody like a Giuliani figure and they couldn't find it.
00:12:28.660 And it's going to be an off season election.
00:12:30.980 The turnout's going to be low.
00:12:32.080 But for him, he's going to get every metrosexual, yuppie, upscale person who feels that their education or their titles or the letters after their name should warrant a nicer place, a nicer lifestyle, and they can't afford it in New York.
00:12:47.320 So they're really embittered and they're angry and they're left wing.
00:12:51.240 So he's going to win probably with 10% of the resident population of registered voters.
00:12:57.020 It's like there are 9% Muslims are 9% in New York City, 9%, nine, not even double digits.
00:13:04.200 And now this guy wants to make it some sort of a litmus test on whether you can be mayor if you swing by a mosque.
00:13:10.140 This is like, look, I don't think this is going to make the difference in this election because New York is so woke and annoying.
00:13:15.540 But I think to the outside world, this is like shocking.
00:13:18.720 This is the guy who this video came out during the course of the campaign of him eating rice with his hands.
00:13:25.040 And he tried to lean into this.
00:13:26.780 Here he is in Sot 3.
00:13:27.760 This came out from Uncivilized Media in 2023.
00:13:32.940 So the third holy grail of taboos in American politics, you have socialism, you have Islam, and then you have Palestine.
00:13:39.560 And you are really going for the trifecta.
00:13:42.020 Let's go, baby.
00:13:42.880 Let's go.
00:13:43.640 Tell me, why is Palestine a part of your politics?
00:13:47.060 When you grow up as someone, especially in the third world, you have a very different understanding of the Palestinian struggle.
00:13:55.480 Oh, Lord.
00:13:56.340 The third world.
00:13:57.040 He comes from a very rich family.
00:13:58.900 What a joke.
00:13:59.640 A cosplayer.
00:14:00.320 Before I give it to you, let me just show you what Charlie Kirk had to say about that video.
00:14:05.240 And people say, I like Mom Donnie because he's authentic.
00:14:09.100 But authentic to what?
00:14:10.120 And what is he aiming towards?
00:14:12.080 He's aiming towards a devolution.
00:14:14.580 It's bad either way.
00:14:15.300 By the way, if he eats rice with his hands, whether he means it or not, he's either authentically gross or he's being a fake, disgusting person.
00:14:21.840 And in some of the comments of a TikTok video I made, people said, but Charlie, who are you to judge other cultures?
00:14:27.400 No, no, no, no.
00:14:28.100 That's the point.
00:14:29.460 We in Western culture believe that our way of life is the best.
00:14:32.880 We're better than Mohammedism.
00:14:35.140 We don't do female genital mutilation.
00:14:37.560 Well, I guess the trans people do.
00:14:38.820 But we don't do female genital mutilation.
00:14:41.280 We in the West don't have child marriages.
00:14:43.480 We don't believe in honor killings.
00:14:45.000 We don't believe in polygamy.
00:14:47.220 We believe in American exceptionalism.
00:14:49.140 We believe our culture is better.
00:14:51.320 You see, in the modern world, happiness is the goal.
00:14:54.940 Feelings are the guide.
00:14:56.300 Judgment is the ultimate sin.
00:14:58.040 And God is the ultimate guess.
00:14:59.660 And let me say that again.
00:15:00.920 Judgment is the ultimate sin.
00:15:02.480 You're not allowed to judge others.
00:15:04.140 Guess what?
00:15:04.440 I'm going to judge you if you eat rice with your hands.
00:15:06.640 That's bad.
00:15:07.540 That's wrong.
00:15:08.880 Assimilation is a necessity, not a suggestion.
00:15:12.480 Can you imagine if anyone on stage had the guts to say something like that, Victor?
00:15:18.380 Yeah, I think he would actually resonate.
00:15:20.140 But almost everything Mondami has said in the past, he's lying that he says, you know, that he said the police were racist.
00:15:27.040 He said he wanted to defund the police.
00:15:29.000 What's very strange, he said, when they asked him about disarming Hamas, he said, I don't get involved in Middle East politics.
00:15:37.120 But then he says he's going to arrest Netanyahu, which is about as involved as you can get.
00:15:41.820 He's a complete phony.
00:15:43.160 He's a spoiled brat.
00:15:44.880 He came, his father was an apologist for Idi Amin and had connections with that horrific government.
00:15:53.060 And he's, as you say, he's a multimillionaire.
00:15:56.840 And then he's from one of, he is from the wealthiest ethnic group in America.
00:16:02.180 Indian Americans and per capita income have the highest income.
00:16:05.720 And he has the gall to say he's going to go after affluent white neighborhoods.
00:16:10.380 He should say, as a member of the most privileged and wealthiest per capita income group, those of Indian American background, I'm going to target my community first and make them pay their fair share because they're the most affluent.
00:16:24.040 And I come from the most affluent area.
00:16:26.280 He can't even do that.
00:16:27.920 He's a very scary guy because he is charismatic.
00:16:30.800 He reminds me of Obama when Obama first emerged on the scene.
00:16:35.420 Obama was a very radical guy.
00:16:37.220 He was involved with Tony Resco, Bill Ayers.
00:16:40.180 He had all of this baggage.
00:16:42.300 And then he just did just what Mom Domi did.
00:16:45.480 He smiled and he said he didn't want to judge people.
00:16:48.280 He went to that early 2004 convention and he wowed everybody saying there's no red state, there's no blue state.
00:16:55.580 We're going to unite people.
00:16:56.820 And everybody thought he was going, everybody felt if I can just vote for this guy and unite America, he's a healer.
00:17:03.040 He's half black, he's half white.
00:17:05.180 This is what America needs.
00:17:07.220 And that was all a ruse.
00:17:08.780 And he became the most divisive, racially obsessed president in history.
00:17:12.340 And this guy is the same.
00:17:13.360 He's doing the same thing.
00:17:15.040 He's smiling and acting as if he's ecumenical and he is divisive.
00:17:19.380 It's not going to end well for New York.
00:17:21.280 He's going to do a lot of damage.
00:17:23.380 Yeah, exactly.
00:17:24.400 And it doesn't seem like it's going to get stopped by anything at this point.
00:17:29.220 Here was the most telling moment, and I will give it to Mom Donnie.
00:17:33.780 It was this.
00:17:34.900 He easily won this exchange.
00:17:36.560 It was a great line.
00:17:37.640 And he hit Andrew Cuomo exactly where it hurts.
00:17:42.040 And it was completely fair and on point and got to the heart of why so many of us, while we would never vote for Mom Donnie, cannot picture pulling the lever for Andrew Cuomo either.
00:17:53.880 Just cannot, cannot do it.
00:17:55.900 Thank God I moved out of New York.
00:17:57.380 Because honestly, Victor, I was there for 17 years.
00:17:59.960 I could not vote for Andrew Cuomo.
00:18:01.620 I couldn't do it.
00:18:02.760 But I can't vote for Mom Donnie.
00:18:04.600 I would vote for Curtis Lewa.
00:18:06.120 If he drops out, I think I'd not vote.
00:18:08.920 I just can't.
00:18:10.700 Andrew Cuomo is a terrible man.
00:18:12.520 And he did directly, thanks to his policies, lead to the deaths of over 12,000 New Yorkers in nursing homes.
00:18:19.140 He was told, do not send COVID-positive patients into nursing homes.
00:18:23.400 That's exactly where the people are dying.
00:18:25.420 And he was warned by the nurses.
00:18:27.520 He overruled them.
00:18:28.620 He never admitted it.
00:18:29.860 Then he downplayed the number of deaths.
00:18:32.220 He lied about it repeatedly.
00:18:33.880 This is not a good person.
00:18:35.540 So this is embodied in the following exchange, top five.
00:18:40.880 In other words, what the assemblyman said is he has no experience.
00:18:44.180 And this is not a job for someone who has no management experience to run 300,000 people, no financial experience to run $115 billion budget.
00:18:53.140 He literally has never had a job.
00:18:55.780 On his resume, it says he interned for his mother.
00:18:58.700 This is not a job for a first-timer.
00:19:02.140 Any day, you could have a hurricane, you could have, God forbid, a 9-11, a health pandemic.
00:19:08.540 If you don't know what you're doing, people could die.
00:19:11.300 Mr. Mom Donnie, do you want to respond?
00:19:12.660 And if we have a health pandemic, then why would New Yorkers turn back to the governor who sent seniors to their death in nursing homes?
00:19:18.720 That's the kind of experience that's on offer here today.
00:19:21.240 What I don't have an experience, I make up for an integrity.
00:19:23.560 And what you don't have an integrity, you could never make up for an experience.
00:19:27.580 That was amazing.
00:19:28.780 I mean, that was a tenet.
00:19:29.460 I don't know.
00:19:30.080 You know, did you think, maybe I'm just alone in that, but when watching Cuomo and comparing him to, say, 15 years ago,
00:19:37.100 I don't know, that horrific thing he did with the rest-home deaths and then all of the sexual harassment charge.
00:19:44.340 He looks like a broken person.
00:19:45.820 He doesn't have the same spunk.
00:19:47.660 He's not quick and repartee.
00:19:49.960 And he just put on a, it was like he delivered on a platter the line about experience.
00:19:56.300 And then he said, we could have a health pandemic.
00:19:59.220 And you know that Mondani was ready for that and memorized that.
00:20:02.660 And he just put his head in the jaws of an alligator and he was chopped off.
00:20:08.200 But he looked so slow and he didn't look like his heart was in it.
00:20:11.900 And he didn't seem, Silva did, but he didn't.
00:20:16.180 I guess what I'm trying to say, he seemed like a broken person.
00:20:19.020 He really did, a broken politician.
00:20:21.320 And he knows he's going to lose.
00:20:22.600 And he knows he's going to lose.
00:20:24.460 And he doesn't know what to do about it.
00:20:26.220 And he's, 10 years ago, he would have sliced Mondani out 15 years ago, but not now.
00:20:31.600 Yeah, I was watching him too, Victor, thinking, what happened to him?
00:20:34.760 Like, this isn't, how is this the politician everybody thought ought to be, not everybody,
00:20:39.780 leftists, wanted drafted into the presidential race against Trump?
00:20:43.880 Remember when we were having that discussion?
00:20:47.200 This guy, like, he's a shadow of his former self.
00:20:50.180 He actually, he's very skinny.
00:20:52.400 I don't know if he's on Ozempic or what,
00:20:54.780 but he's gotten, like, physically more frail,
00:20:58.860 and he seems emotionally more frail.
00:21:02.020 I agree with you, he did not seem like the fighter who is Mario Cuomo's son.
00:21:06.300 And that's the only kind of version of him that had a shot
00:21:09.340 in making up a 15-point difference between now and Election Day.
00:21:14.240 It's not going to happen.
00:21:16.520 Here is some more dishonesty, though, for what it's worth,
00:21:18.900 from Momdani, who got up there now after saying it someplace by our count between 10 and 15 times
00:21:26.060 that he wanted to defund the police.
00:21:28.380 Now he doesn't want to defund the police.
00:21:31.180 That's not true.
00:21:32.240 That's changed.
00:21:33.200 Here it is in SOT 6.
00:21:34.140 I am looking to work with police officers, not to defund the NYPD,
00:21:39.300 looking to ensure that officers can actually do one job when they're signing up to join that department.
00:21:44.460 Okay, and then they asked him, Victor, what do you mean now, right?
00:21:50.600 Because you've been going after cops nonstop.
00:21:53.900 You've called them terrible, terrible things.
00:21:56.260 Like, you've had nothing but scorn for police officers.
00:21:59.480 And are you taking that back?
00:22:01.640 Because he said, okay, well, I have an apology for those cops.
00:22:04.400 Like, I apologize to cops.
00:22:05.860 And they said, what specifically are you apologizing for?
00:22:09.040 The words that you used, the language you used, or the thinking behind the attacks that you were making?
00:22:17.340 And he said, quote, the issuing of the apology is to reckon with the fact that it's language that I'm applying to the officers.
00:22:29.860 The language.
00:22:30.860 When in fact, what I'm speaking about are specific practices.
00:22:34.380 What he seems to be saying there is, I shouldn't have used the language I used about cops, but the thinking remains the same.
00:22:41.460 So he wants to get credit now for, I guess, not wanting to defund the cops, even though I'll just read to you.
00:22:47.800 Cops are wicked and corrupt.
00:22:49.680 There's no negotiating with them.
00:22:51.640 Defund it, meaning the police department, dismantle it, end the cycle of violence.
00:22:55.660 We don't need an investigation, this is everyone, to know NYPD is racist, anti-queer, and a major threat to public safety.
00:23:01.560 What we need is to defund the NYPD.
00:23:04.380 Goes on, no fake cuts, defund the police.
00:23:07.720 Another one, we want to defund the police.
00:23:09.920 Another one, queer liberation means defund the police.
00:23:13.020 So now he's had to run around because people love the police in New York and try to apologize for calling them wicked, corrupt, racist, a major threat to public safety.
00:23:22.900 But he seems to be splitting the baby, saying, the words were wrong, but the sentiment, the ideas were right.
00:23:30.300 You know, it's kind of funny because, you know, I was a classicist, Am, and there was this sophistic movement.
00:23:38.260 And these were people who said that if I can convince somebody with language, it must be true, whether it is or not, because they wouldn't believe me if it wasn't true.
00:23:45.040 But there's a very famous line in Euripides' play, The Hippolytus, where he says crazy things, and he said, my tongue said it.
00:23:53.200 I didn't say it.
00:23:54.900 So I'm not responsible.
00:23:56.660 Yeah, my heart didn't say it.
00:23:58.600 The Greeks thought your brain was in your heart.
00:24:00.740 And he said, my heart didn't mean it.
00:24:03.080 My tongue was as if your tongue has a life of its own, and it says these things, and it has no connection.
00:24:08.400 That's going to be Jay Jones' defense in a minute, too.
00:24:11.160 Yeah, it is.
00:24:12.220 It wasn't me.
00:24:14.140 So, I mean, they're going to let him get away with this because he's leftist, and he was very disciplined in his message of economic inequality and economic opportunity, and I'm going to tax the so-called rich who aren't allegedly paying their fair share.
00:24:29.600 I want them to have to pay 52% in taxes.
00:24:32.460 They have to go up another 2%, and that's going to fund everything.
00:24:35.320 That's going to fund my bus program, my, quote, free bus program, my city grocery stores.
00:24:41.740 And he, I mean, he seems to think that there is, like, an endless well of money amongst rich people, and there isn't.
00:24:50.200 Here's a little bit of that in SOT 10.
00:24:54.140 But the question is how you'll make them free.
00:24:56.320 We will fund the revenue that would have otherwise been brought in from fares, and that's something that we would do in partnership with Albany.
00:25:02.360 And I've put forward two proposals.
00:25:03.840 The first is to raise taxes on the top 1% of New Yorkers by 2%.
00:25:07.640 That would raise $4 billion.
00:25:09.160 The second is to raise the state's top corporate tax rate to match that of New Jersey, which would raise $5 billion.
00:25:15.580 That's his solution, and this city is about to bless it.
00:25:19.700 The problem New York has is that about 40% of the people don't pay either on the subway or they just jump the turnstile, as we saw with the murdered DeCarlos Brown.
00:25:28.860 He didn't even pay to get on that bus in Carolina.
00:25:32.600 So the idea that all of these public transits are in the red because they cannot collect fares because during COVID or after George Floyd, it was considered wrong to enforce ticket gathering or paying to use mass transit.
00:25:52.240 And then he comes along and says, well, the problem is that we make people pay too much when the real problem is they're not really – a whole segment of the population never pays anyway.
00:26:03.560 And so does he think that the people who jump the turnstiles in mass numbers are therefore better citizens because they get to have free subway or free buses?
00:26:14.600 I mean, I don't understand it.
00:26:16.440 There's so many people that don't –
00:26:17.340 Well, meanwhile, he's got this leftist belief that there's just an endless supply of rich people who will stay in New York forever and be his guinea pig – be his piggy bank.
00:26:27.460 Not guinea pig, piggy bank.
00:26:29.100 And I'm here to tell you it's not true.
00:26:30.900 I mean, I know a lot of rich people who live in New York City, and they're fleeing.
00:26:33.720 They already were fleeing post-COVID and that nonsense, but they're fleeing right now in anticipation of this guy winning.
00:26:39.440 The pot of billionaires and millionaires from whom he has to steal is smaller than ever.
00:26:45.680 I'll just give you one example.
00:26:47.460 So we moved from New York to Connecticut in 2021, and we sold our apartment on the Upper West Side.
00:26:52.900 And we just went back just for kicks to see, like, what was going on with our apartment because we heard that it was for sale.
00:26:58.900 And it's for sale, and it's almost 30% discounted from where we sold it post-pandemic when people were not running into the city.
00:27:07.280 That was a tough time to sell the apartment, trust me.
00:27:09.600 So it's like it was already at, like, a market decline.
00:27:12.740 And since then, it's gone down almost 30%, this beautiful, almost new apartment, because of him, because people see what he's about to do, and they're running.
00:27:23.560 You know, what is it?
00:27:24.820 The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
00:27:28.260 Yeah, but you know what he'll do is if you look at the Castro brothers or Maduro or Hugo Chavez, any of these socialist-ass communists that take over, the first thing they do is go to wealthy people.
00:27:41.420 And they say, you know what?
00:27:43.720 Everybody's scared of me, but I will cut a deal with you or you and you.
00:27:47.860 And they get a small cadre who flip, and then they get concessions and exemptions from what he does.
00:27:53.960 And I think he's going to do that.
00:27:55.280 He's going to go to Wall Street, and he's going to say, you know what?
00:27:58.100 You're here.
00:27:59.300 Your family's here.
00:28:00.480 I'm not going to touch you, but I want to know if you're going to support me and be on my team and shut up or give money.
00:28:07.580 And there will be a lot of people who will be co-opted.
00:28:10.740 I predict it.
00:28:11.700 That's exactly what happened in Cuba and Venezuela.
00:28:14.460 It's happened in Colombia.
00:28:15.760 And any time a socialist takes over, a communist, the first thing he does, they did that in the Bolshevik Reservoir, they go to the aristocracy or what they call the oligarchy, and they start to cut deals.
00:28:26.700 And these stupid people think they'll be protected or exempted by doing business with the city, or he'll say, I'll give you a contract with the city, or I won't enforce this city tax on your firm, or something like that.
00:28:39.820 And that's what he's counting on, I think.
00:28:42.340 That's why he knows a lot are going to flee, but he also knows that he's talking to a lot of very, very wealthy people in New York that don't want to leave.
00:28:50.240 And he's saying, if you don't want to leave, I can make it easy for you, but you're going to have to play ball with me, and there's going to be recompense for it rather than punishment.
00:28:59.700 And I bet you'll see a lot of people.
00:29:02.960 And they're always deluded because in the end, they always get it eventually.
00:29:07.260 That's what happened in Russia.
00:29:08.420 That's what happened in China.
00:29:09.360 That's what happened in Cuba.
00:29:10.560 That's what happened in Venezuela.
00:29:11.960 You cannot deal with these people.
00:29:13.700 And yet there'll be people in New York who think they can, and Mondami, I think, is counting on that.
00:29:19.040 He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
00:29:22.360 He is.
00:29:23.180 He's affable.
00:29:24.000 He's smiley.
00:29:25.180 He talks a good game.
00:29:27.100 But his policies are as radical as they come.
00:29:31.740 If I had a nickel for every friend of mine in New York who said, you got out just in the nick of time, good for you.
00:29:38.240 We're so envious that you sold and you got out, and that's how we feel, too.
00:29:41.600 Thank God.
00:29:42.240 I mean, Connecticut's better.
00:29:43.300 It's still leftist, but it's not as leftist as that city's about to go.
00:29:47.420 Let's keep going because the real interesting one for me is the one down in Virginia.
00:29:52.020 We never pay attention to a state attorney general race, right?
00:29:55.060 Like, that's not really something we cover at the national level.
00:29:57.220 But this one's very telling because it's a statement on the Democratic Party in today's day and age in the wake of Charlie's assassination and the growing threats and attempts on the lives of Republicans.
00:30:07.820 This guy running for attorney general, the Democrat, dreams and fantasizes and waxes poetic about shooting his Republican rivals in the head with two bullets.
00:30:17.620 And not just that, but their children, too, gleefully discussing the possibility of watching them die in their mother's arms and then triples down on it.
00:30:25.700 When chastised by a Republican colleague saying, you sound like a monster, what are you saying?
00:30:29.620 Stop that.
00:30:30.400 I'm uncomfortable.
00:30:31.980 Doesn't even take the hint.
00:30:33.300 Goes back repeatedly to say, no, you need to hear me out.
00:30:36.760 This is why I'm right.
00:30:38.160 They'll never change their policy positions unless they feel the pain.
00:30:41.600 And it's not a rhetorical use of that phrase.
00:30:44.460 It's I want their children dead.
00:30:47.340 And there's a couple of things I want to point out on this.
00:30:49.740 So that that Democrat is named Jay Jones.
00:30:52.040 He's challenging the incumbent, Jason Meorez, for the position.
00:30:55.700 And Jay Jones had been winning prior to this scandal breaking.
00:30:58.700 Now it's neck and neck.
00:31:00.440 And Tucker had on a Virginia state delegate named Terry Kilgore, I think, yesterday.
00:31:09.740 And he put some perspective on just why, in addition to the obvious, Jay Jones's texts were so abhorrent.
00:31:19.180 Listen here to SOT 14.
00:31:22.660 The General Assembly all the time.
00:31:24.020 Everybody knew the Gilbert kids.
00:31:27.460 And Jay Jones would have known the Gilbert kids.
00:31:29.520 That's what's terrible about this whole situation.
00:31:32.660 It wasn't like, hey, I want to kill a kid who's from another country.
00:31:36.380 You would know this kid, these kids, because you run the General Assembly.
00:31:40.400 Talked to him this past week just to check on him.
00:31:43.180 And the bad thing about it is now there has to be police presence where his kids are.
00:31:49.600 And that's what's because they they still receive threats.
00:31:54.740 It's amazing that Jay Jones, who wants to be the top law enforcement official of the Commonwealth of Virginia, directly put those children in danger, directly put their lives in danger.
00:32:02.820 And just one more for you, Victor.
00:32:04.540 This is Jason Mears, the Republican and incumbent, raising some of those same points last night at the debate to his opponent, Jay Jones, SOT 13.
00:32:13.240 I have to make this observation.
00:32:15.340 He keeps saying that he is sorry.
00:32:17.480 Jay, if you're really sorry, you wouldn't be running.
00:32:20.620 If you really understood the ramifications of what you said about an innocent mom and her children, you know Todd Gilbert.
00:32:28.700 You served with him.
00:32:30.160 Jennifer would come to the General Assembly.
00:32:32.280 She would bring her children.
00:32:33.540 We would see them run in the hallways.
00:32:35.400 They were two and five years old at the time.
00:32:38.000 This wasn't a hypothetical.
00:32:39.700 This wasn't some figure that you know from far away.
00:32:42.580 You actually know Todd.
00:32:44.180 This is a flesh and blood, real husband.
00:32:47.200 Jennifer is a real mom.
00:32:49.120 These are real kids.
00:32:50.720 How in the world could you ever show compassion and comfort a grieving mother that has ever lost a child to violence?
00:32:57.620 Because, Virginians, there is no cry like the cry of a mother that has lost her child.
00:33:02.460 A prosecutor knows this because they've stood in that courtroom.
00:33:06.040 Jay Jones has never understood this because he's not a prosecutor.
00:33:09.300 He's a politician trying to save his career.
00:33:11.260 And what we heard from Jay Jones, and I'll play some of the sound, Victor, after you weigh in, but was basically, I'm sorry for the texts.
00:33:19.580 I don't stand by those sentiments.
00:33:21.760 And Donald Trump is bad.
00:33:23.160 And I'm the only one who will fight Donald Trump, the evil Donald Trump.
00:33:26.500 This guy won't do it.
00:33:27.440 Yeah, I think when you had these left-wing funded campaigns for attorney generals, it was actually really brilliant what George Soros did.
00:33:35.800 He said to himself, if you really want to change America, you want to get attorney generals and local prosecutors because they can most directly influence the culture by letting criminals out, not indicting them or not censing them or letting them out on amnesties.
00:33:54.320 And they went out and picked the most left-wing radical people, whether it was Keith Ellison of Minnesota or Letitia James or Mr. Jones.
00:34:06.860 And when you do that, you get this other baggage like you do with Letitia Jones and Keith Ellison and Jay Jones.
00:34:14.560 And there was – what was even – it wasn't as bad, but in some ways it was even more glaring in a sense was he didn't drive 80 miles an hour or he didn't drive 85.
00:34:26.940 He didn't drive 90.
00:34:27.800 He didn't drive 100.
00:34:28.720 He didn't drive 105.
00:34:30.500 How many people, Megan, have you ever met drove 116 miles an hour?
00:34:35.200 That deliberately was saying to people, I'm going to drive this fast.
00:34:39.340 And if anybody is in my way, they're going to be dead, and I don't care.
00:34:44.620 And then when he was sentenced, he used his own pack or this thing that was related to him for the community service.
00:34:53.680 So everything about him –
00:34:54.700 It wasn't real community service.
00:34:56.700 No, it wasn't.
00:34:57.700 Everything about him is distasteful.
00:35:00.320 He's trying to be – he reminds me of Mondom.
00:35:02.740 He's trying to smile and be smug, but he never comes to terms at the state.
00:35:06.980 As you say, the head law enforcement officer of Virginia is telling the people of Virginia, I have threatened to kill people.
00:35:14.780 I would like people to be dead, little children, and I have driven 116 miles an hour.
00:35:20.400 And anybody else who did that would be in jail for a year for reckless endangerment, et cetera, felony.
00:35:26.680 And I didn't have any consequences really at all.
00:35:30.040 In fact, I used that sentence for my own political advantage.
00:35:33.540 It's just – it's disgusting that he's even on the stage.
00:35:37.880 He has no respect for the rule of law.
00:35:39.420 He's made that clear.
00:35:40.440 That did come up, that incident, the reckless driving incident last night.
00:35:44.240 Here is Merez raising the issue in SOC 15.
00:35:46.720 The reality is that Jay Jones was in court for going 116 miles an hour on Interstate 64.
00:35:53.680 Four people were in court that day, were going roughly the same speed.
00:35:56.960 Three of those four people got suspended or acted jail sentence.
00:36:00.420 But Jay Jones is a politician, and he asked the court not to give him any of that, to give him community service.
00:36:06.360 And instead, we now know he misled the court.
00:36:09.080 That community service, it wasn't done for a charity.
00:36:11.620 It was done for his own political action committee that he controlled.
00:36:14.700 Jay, if you were to apply to be a lying prosecutor in not just my office, any attorney general office in the country, you would not pass a background check.
00:36:24.440 And right now, you may say that you are sorry.
00:36:26.940 But look back at what happened.
00:36:28.580 You had three years to say you're sorry, Jay, and you didn't.
00:36:33.200 That's very effective to me.
00:36:34.940 I'm just going to say one thing.
00:36:36.720 Jason Mera's got an issue with the hair.
00:36:38.800 It's like greased down.
00:36:40.500 It looks kind of greased down and smushed to his head.
00:36:43.480 And I'm sorry, I'm rooting for him, but it looks a little, like, off, a little smarmy.
00:36:50.940 I, like, someone needs to do something about that.
00:36:53.380 Because women do respond to things like hair, and that needs an intervention.
00:36:57.740 I don't know what his, maybe they're too afraid to tell him.
00:37:00.120 I'm not too afraid to tell you, sir.
00:37:02.040 You need to get rid of some of that oil out of the hair, gel, whatever you're doing.
00:37:05.200 You've overdone it.
00:37:05.900 It's okay if it's, like, a little fluffy.
00:37:07.220 You went too far, but your rhetorical points are excellent.
00:37:10.620 Yeah, I think as if somebody who's bald, we don't, men that are bald think, I'll take it.
00:37:17.460 But no matter what it looks like, at least it's hair.
00:37:20.880 But there's a larger trend, and I have to be very careful what I say here.
00:37:27.000 But when you look at Leticia James and her racialized campaign and her various houses that she had, or you look at Mondami, he's a multimillionaire from a multimillionaire family.
00:37:38.160 And you look at Jones, who's from an old, wealthy, established African-American family.
00:37:43.700 And you look at the year 2025, when race and class are divergent now.
00:37:50.180 There's no real connection.
00:37:51.660 So what we're talking about is very affluent people like James, like Mondami, like Jones.
00:37:58.540 And at some point, they all play the ethnic card.
00:38:01.940 He did it.
00:38:02.700 You know, he talked about all of these civil rights things, and he couldn't do this.
00:38:06.580 And Mondami's talking about the poor Muslims, and Latita James is talking about a white Donald Trump doing this.
00:38:13.360 And I think most people are saying, you know what, whether I look at The View or Oprah or Michelle Obama, I'm tired of equating race with persecution and bias and poverty.
00:38:25.040 In fact, we've been 60 years into the civil rights and affirmative action, which is a prototype of DI, and there's very little connection anymore with a lot of ethnic groups.
00:38:36.580 And social oppression, poverty, white bias, if at all.
00:38:41.700 So you get this really ridiculous Orwellian where these very wealthy, privileged people get up on the stage, and then they start self-referencing their victim status.
00:38:51.620 And they all do it in a different degree.
00:38:53.400 Mondami does it all the time.
00:38:55.420 And so does Letitia James.
00:38:56.940 And he did it about his family's work.
00:38:58.960 And I honor that, all that.
00:39:01.340 But he's not a victim any more than Cory Booker is a victim, even any more than Jasmine Crockett, the prep school girl, is a victim.
00:39:09.720 And I think people just have to just say that and say, you know, we are tired as Americans of all different backgrounds,
00:39:16.380 of these people who are the most privileged, 2%, 5%, 1% of the country,
00:39:21.220 And then they make us feel as if we owe them something because their religion or their gender or their sexual orientation or their skin you is not of the majority.
00:39:32.840 And therefore, they deserve special consideration or exemption for what they do or say.
00:39:39.180 And that's what the subtext is.
00:39:40.560 All of these people think, I don't need to be judged by the way most people are judged because I have extenuating circumstances.
00:39:49.020 I'm a proud Laquita James black woman.
00:39:51.560 I'm Mondami who came from Africa.
00:39:53.880 And I'm a Muslim.
00:39:55.140 And you don't go to the mosque.
00:39:57.540 Same thing with Keith Ellison.
00:39:59.140 All of them do it.
00:40:00.500 And yet they're all very privileged.
00:40:02.060 And we're supposed to go along with this farce.
00:40:05.060 And I think that's one reason people are getting very, very sick of it.
00:40:08.780 And I hope I'm dying to show you the Michelle Obama sound, but it's everything in me to not run them right now.
00:40:14.860 But we're on the Virginia debate.
00:40:16.320 So I'm going to hold them.
00:40:17.200 But just put a pin in that exact thought that you just that you just expressed, because it's the perfect tee up to what we're going to play from her.
00:40:25.440 But before we get to her, let's stick with the debate.
00:40:27.940 I do want to show Jay Jones first.
00:40:31.720 He apologizes for the text.
00:40:35.200 And here is how that sounded.
00:40:37.220 SOT 11.
00:40:38.780 Now, tonight, you're going to hear two very different visions for the future of this commonwealth.
00:40:43.660 And you're also going to hear from my opponent about text messages that I sent that I deeply, deeply regret.
00:40:50.940 Let me be very clear.
00:40:53.280 I am ashamed.
00:40:55.380 I am embarrassed.
00:40:57.300 And I'm sorry.
00:40:59.200 I'm sorry to Speaker Gilbert.
00:41:01.620 I'm sorry to his family.
00:41:02.900 I'm sorry to my family.
00:41:05.440 And I'm sorry to every single Virginian.
00:41:09.520 I cannot take back what I said.
00:41:12.760 But you have my word that I will always be accountable for my mistakes.
00:41:15.940 This race has always been about more.
00:41:18.900 It's always been about each and every one of you and the future of this commonwealth.
00:41:22.960 Because when Donald Trump fires workers, defunds our schools and levies tariffs to destroy our regional economies, sends armed troops into cities and defunds law enforcement.
00:41:34.120 He has a willing cheerleader here in Jason Muyares.
00:41:36.800 Okay, so that was number one.
00:41:40.660 Now he's deeply sorry.
00:41:41.820 But his first response when this text message scandal broke was not to say, I am so sorry and I'm so embarrassed.
00:41:50.280 I like, I don't even know what to say.
00:41:52.480 I'm humiliated.
00:41:53.520 It was to attack Donald Trump.
00:41:55.800 That's what his initial instinct was.
00:41:57.780 He was like, Donald Trump is this and my opponent sucks and I will not be brought down by this kind of whatever.
00:42:03.620 And it wasn't until shortly thereafter that clearly his team got to him and said, no, no, no, no, not it.
00:42:09.520 There's only one right thing to do and that is to apologize, apologize, apologize.
00:42:13.260 That he then issued a sheepish like, oh, and by the way, I'm sorry for my texts.
00:42:18.000 Now, by the time he gets to the debate, he knows he needs to genuinely sound sheepish.
00:42:23.580 And he then says, my party held me accountable.
00:42:27.700 How?
00:42:28.920 Literally, no one's called for him to step down.
00:42:31.400 No one has called, no one has withdrawn their endorsement, most notably not the woman running for governor above him, Abigail Spanberger.
00:42:40.260 No one's calling for accountability.
00:42:42.460 And that was raised.
00:42:44.040 And this is how that went.
00:42:46.260 Sot 12.
00:42:47.680 Why should voters trust your judgment moving forward?
00:42:50.500 Well, look, Brett, I want to say one thing.
00:42:51.900 Jason Meares can't prosecute a case against Donald Trump, that's for sure.
00:42:55.160 And I will also say this.
00:42:56.120 I was held accountable by my party and I deeply, deeply respect that.
00:42:59.980 But what about when Donald Trump used incendiary language to incite a riot to try to overturn an election here in this country?
00:43:05.880 What about when Winsome Sears used violent language about people who disagree with you and her and your extreme position on abortion?
00:43:11.640 I've taken accountability for my mistakes.
00:43:13.480 It's time you take accountability, too.
00:43:15.720 And let me ask you just one more time, Delegate Jones, just so we're clear and the voters understand.
00:43:19.960 Why do you think they should trust your judgment based upon these two events that we've discussed?
00:43:24.140 I've taken accountability for my mistakes, and I know that people in Virginia right now demand and deserve leaders who accept when they make mistakes and can acknowledge that and have been held accountable.
00:43:34.740 This job right now demands someone who will hold Donald Trump accountable.
00:43:38.420 And Jason Mieros got up there and said, how?
00:43:42.780 How have you held yourself accountable?
00:43:43.820 If you were holding yourself accountable, you would have dropped out of this race because you cannot possibly get this job and sit with the parents of murdered children, which unfortunately is part of being in law enforcement, and have anybody trust you that you actually feel any sort of empathy for them, especially if they're Republicans, since your thoughts are in writing.
00:44:04.580 And by the way, Victor, I did pull up the original statement that he gave when National Review broke this story.
00:44:09.840 First, he ignored repeated requests for a comment, then later put out a statement blaming Mieros and Trump.
00:44:15.140 Quote, like all people, I've sent text messages that I regret, and I believe violent rhetoric has no place in our politics.
00:44:20.820 Let's be clear about what is happening in the attorney general race right now.
00:44:24.200 Jason Mieros is dropping smears through Trump-controlled media organizations, that'll be news to the folks at NR, to assault my character and rescue his desperate campaign.
00:44:34.940 This race is about whether Trump can control Virginia or Virginians control Virginia.
00:44:39.060 And it was only until later that he put out an actual apology.
00:44:42.700 That's what we're dealing with here.
00:44:43.680 Yeah, we know he didn't mean it, because he basically, he didn't basically, he just said, I've taken responsibility, but basically what I said, wanting the death of small children in the arms of their mother, is not as bad as my opponent, because he agrees with half the country, Donald Trump.
00:45:05.380 And he voted with half the country, and he likes what Donald Trump is doing with basically half the country.
00:45:13.420 And therefore, that in itself is as bad as what I've done.
00:45:17.720 The worst thing about it was, the whole context of why he said that was because the Speaker of the Legislature was trying, it was in the process of commemorating an African-American legislator who had died, as I recall.
00:45:32.040 And so I think the people out there would think, well, if somebody tries to be ecumenical and healing and racial affairs and wants to have a resolution honoring a person, and this guy, the attorney general then attacks him in a way, how is he going to treat me as a Virginian?
00:45:54.180 When I have a legal problem, or I'm indicted, and his attorneys will take orders from him, is he going to give me a good, what could I do to win his approval?
00:46:05.080 If somebody who had praised a deceased African-American iconic legislator earned that from him, how would that affect me as a Virginian?
00:46:16.600 And then they could also say, if I speed go 90, are they going to press charges against me?
00:46:23.760 Can I apply for, I don't know, community service with my own organization?
00:46:28.860 That's what everybody, he's the chief law enforcement officer, and he has zero credibility, and he really doesn't feel at all bad about it.
00:46:38.080 He feels bad that he got caught.
00:46:39.960 You made a good point.
00:46:40.880 Anybody that knows National Review, and I wrote there for 21 years, I was working for them.
00:46:46.940 They were the most anti-Trump vehicle as much as anybody on the left for years.
00:46:52.880 So the idea that this is some Trump news organization, it's just, the whole thing is demagoguery, and he's, he reminds me a lot of Mondami.
00:47:02.160 And this is the new Democratic Party, where they want to have all of these new neo-socialist radicals, and then they don't, they can't do background checks on them,
00:47:13.380 because they got to where they were by all this racialized invective and hatred, and then they get into positions where they want to run the country,
00:47:23.700 and then this comes out, and then they either play the race card, or the religion card, or they say that their opponent is Trump.
00:47:31.340 And that's why the Democratic Party is just, it's, I'm not saying it won't pick up seats, because of its power in the street,
00:47:40.280 and the foundations, and academia, and they have a lot of resources, but they're, no one wants them.
00:47:47.660 Nobody wants what they have to sell.
00:47:50.160 This is the party that gave us silence is violence, right?
00:47:54.240 They're the ones who say that after a mass shooting, after any Republican says or does anything that they don't like.
00:48:01.720 Every other Republican has to be asked about it.
00:48:04.040 Do you denounce, do you denounce, you denounce, like silence is violence.
00:48:07.920 And now they have a guy actually calling for the murder of Republicans and their children, and no Democrat,
00:48:14.980 no Democrat has called for this guy to step down.
00:48:17.040 No, not one prominent Democrat.
00:48:19.380 And yet, and not only that, but you look at the leftist messaging around this guy, Jay Jones, and what actually went down here,
00:48:25.460 and it's lies.
00:48:26.900 It's total, listen, I'm sorry to do this to you, but here's Joy Behar on The View.
00:48:31.240 Listen to what they are peddling.
00:48:32.660 This is 24 hours ago to their audience about this whole scandal, Sot 16.
00:48:38.480 I also, can I mention, because what's come up in this conversation is this individual, Jay Jones,
00:48:43.100 who's running for attorney general in Virginia.
00:48:45.500 He's about a 36-year-old man running for attorney general who had some leaked text messages come out
00:48:50.960 where he aspired to violence against Republicans.
00:48:53.700 I don't know why it's hard for people, and I'm not at this table.
00:48:56.740 I saw that.
00:48:57.240 Let me just say this.
00:48:57.880 But the only Democrats denounced him, no Republicans.
00:49:01.040 He's a Democrat.
00:49:01.940 Yeah, he's a Democrat.
00:49:02.380 That's my point.
00:49:03.060 And the Democrats denounced him.
00:49:04.500 If I can finish my point, denounce both.
00:49:07.580 We don't need to equivocate.
00:49:08.960 We don't need to say, well, he did this, so then Republicans.
00:49:11.060 No, yeah.
00:49:11.760 Both are terrible.
00:49:12.800 Both are equally awful.
00:49:15.260 Okay, so she was too interested in her own point to listen to the inanity coming at her from right field there,
00:49:21.040 that only Democrats denounced Jay Jones, no Republicans, Victor.
00:49:28.680 I don't know what to say.
00:49:30.320 I don't know what to say.
00:49:31.280 I mean, she's completely, she's an ignoramus, but it's so wild.
00:49:37.280 It's just so, it's just so insane.
00:49:40.200 And one thing about all of these people, you mentioned John Bolton, but when Trump is anywhere in the equation,
00:49:49.300 no one ever says, I didn't do what I did.
00:49:54.200 Or, you know, Jack Smith doesn't say, I didn't surveil this phone records, or I didn't get free legal counsel.
00:50:01.260 Or Latita James says, I really didn't do this, I didn't sign this affidavit and lie.
00:50:06.680 And that, and, you know, John, he never says, I didn't really get preferential treatment in my sentencing.
00:50:17.000 And I didn't really exceed the speed limit at 116 miles and endanger people.
00:50:23.660 They never really say, they always say, they bring in Trump somehow.
00:50:27.480 This is inordinate, he's after me, I'm fighting, I'm speaking truth to power.
00:50:31.880 But they never ever just.
00:50:33.300 Or like Bolton, like Bolton.
00:50:34.420 My behavior was lawful.
00:50:36.680 Which is not at all the same thing as, I didn't do it.
00:50:40.760 Not at all.
00:50:41.760 You ask me if I robbed the bank, the answer is no, I didn't do it.
00:50:44.880 I don't say, my behavior was lawful.
00:50:47.820 What?
00:50:48.320 I mean, you put it in that context, it's very obvious what this person's doing.
00:50:52.580 And it's very obvious to me what John Bolton's doing as well.
00:50:55.380 We're going to talk about him in just a minute, along with Michelle Obama.
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00:53:58.520 Okay, before we get to Bolton, let's spend some time on Letitia James, who is out there like,
00:54:06.260 I am woman, hear me roar, I feel no fear, I am not afraid.
00:54:10.880 She's loving every minute of this.
00:54:12.740 Great.
00:54:13.500 I hope you do love it, because you're probably going to face an amended complaint sometime soon.
00:54:18.540 She's been indicted by Trump for a Virginia property that they allege she lied about when she applied for her mortgage, saying it was going to be her primary residence, and it never was.
00:54:31.140 It was never her primary residence, and she knew that at the time, they allege, that she applied for the mortgage, which would be mortgage fraud.
00:54:37.820 Now, the news hits yesterday and today in a pair of reports, Daily Mail yesterday, New York Post today.
00:54:44.940 Daily Mail yesterday reporting that the person living in the allegedly problematic residence is Tish James' grandniece.
00:54:56.240 So, I think this is her sister's child, Nakia Thompson, along with Thompson's three children.
00:55:02.740 So, she's got great-grandnieces and nephews, and they're living in this three-bedroom property in Norfolk, Virginia, and have been since 2020.
00:55:12.280 Daily Mail discovered that Nakia Thompson is officially listed as abscondor, an abscondor, who's being sought by authorities in North Carolina for failing to finish her probation.
00:55:24.440 On the North Carolina website is an appeal for information leading to her whereabouts, along with a mugshot and an offender number.
00:55:34.320 It is 0898340.
00:55:37.940 The communications director for the North Carolina Department of Corrections says Ms. Thompson was sentenced to probation for misdemeanor convictions for assault and battery.
00:55:46.520 Oh, and trespassing, too, and has willfully avoided probation supervision, and abscondor is considered a fugitive.
00:55:55.960 Thompson faces arrest if she's located in North Carolina.
00:55:59.520 So, Tish James is accused here of harboring a fugitive at her fraudulently mortgaged Virginia property.
00:56:08.700 In 2005, this grandniece, Nakia, was placed on probation in Forsyth County, North Carolina, simple assault.
00:56:16.140 The following year, she was handed a suspended sentence for two counts of assault against a governmental official.
00:56:20.720 In 2011, she was given a suspended sentence for assault and battery and second-degree trespass, again by a court in Forsyth County.
00:56:26.680 This appears to have been the offense for which Thompson became an abscondor.
00:56:30.380 On her Facebook page, she appears to make light of her criminality.
00:56:33.340 One post shows blood spattered on a black background and the words,
00:56:37.520 knick-knacks crime, grand larceny, a crime she was actually charged with, reports the Mail.
00:56:43.200 According to her LinkedIn page, she has worked in various jobs, including a debt collections representative,
00:56:48.880 a stocker at Walmart, and a cashier at Wendy's.
00:56:50.840 In 2018, she worked for Tish James' campaign for four months as a seasonal representative, reads her profile.
00:56:58.620 Okay, let me just finish this up.
00:57:00.280 Today, in the Daily Mail, get a follow-up piece.
00:57:03.340 Sorry, New York Post, follow-up piece of sorts, saying Tish James is housing another felon in her other Virginia property,
00:57:13.640 who also is, I believe, a grandniece.
00:57:17.640 Yes, a grandniece.
00:57:18.560 This one is named Kayla Thompson Hairston, and she is, we believe, the sister of our first star, who I just read about, Nakia.
00:57:28.820 Here she is, Victor.
00:57:30.640 Are you familiar with the website OnlyFans, my friend?
00:57:34.520 Have you heard?
00:57:36.440 No, I have not.
00:57:38.000 Okay.
00:57:39.740 OnlyFans is where girls like this, who want to make some extra dough on their bodies,
00:57:45.140 go and pose in nothing or next to nothing, and they can make a lot of money doing that.
00:57:51.240 And that's what Letitia James' grandniece is doing, Kayla, not to be confused with Nakia, the fugitive.
00:58:00.980 Here she is.
00:58:01.820 Here's the Kayla, the other felon, accused felon that she's harboring in her other property.
00:58:08.500 She's 21.
00:58:09.720 She's an OnlyFans star with a public X-rated social media presence.
00:58:13.620 She was charged in April 2024 with lying about her felony criminal record when she tried to buy a gun in Suffolk, Virginia, according to court documents.
00:58:24.860 Kayla was legally disqualified from owning a firearm, reports the New York Post, due to an August 2020 felony charge of malicious wounding.
00:58:32.600 What is that, you might ask?
00:58:33.680 Virginia law defines it as a crime in which a person, quote, shoots, stabs, cuts, or wounds any other person or by any means causes bodily injury with the intent to maim, disfigure, disable, or kill.
00:58:46.180 Since Thompson Harrison was a juvenile at the time, the records are sealed.
00:58:51.000 When she was just 15 years old back in 2019, she was also caught up in the criminal hijinks of her big sister, Nakia.
00:58:58.480 That's the lady at the first property who is a wanted fugitive by the North Carolina authorities.
00:59:03.080 So somehow she was caught up in Nakia's alleged criminal wrongdoing as well.
00:59:08.920 It sounds like an absolutely lovely family, Victor.
00:59:12.320 Sounds like Letitia James has got all of her ducks in a row.
00:59:15.500 But let's check in on her messaging.
00:59:17.580 Sop 37.
00:59:31.160 Kissed in the air.
00:59:33.080 Taking in the applause.
00:59:35.360 This is your moment, Tish.
00:59:37.360 We love Tish!
00:59:38.920 We love Tish!
00:59:40.440 We love Tish!
00:59:42.000 We love Tish!
00:59:44.200 Thank you.
00:59:45.920 Thank you so much.
00:59:48.460 I appreciate you, and I've got your back.
00:59:50.640 Okay, that was just the setup.
00:59:59.320 She was at a Zoran Mamdani rally, so of course the crowd loved her.
01:00:03.240 And here's what she said.
01:00:05.100 Sop 38.
01:00:07.480 You see, I know what it feels like to be attacked for just doing your job.
01:00:13.500 But I also know what it feels like to overcome adversity.
01:00:21.620 And so I stand on solid rock.
01:00:31.740 And I will not bow.
01:00:33.960 I will not break.
01:00:35.620 I will not bend.
01:00:37.320 I will not capitulate.
01:00:39.200 I will not give in.
01:00:41.280 I will not give up.
01:00:43.060 You come for me, you gotta come to all of us!
01:01:00.100 Okay.
01:01:02.220 All of us!
01:01:04.220 Every single one of us!
01:01:07.400 We're all in this together!
01:01:10.340 Together!
01:01:10.780 Okay, she's lost her mind.
01:01:13.880 I don't know if we are all in it together,
01:01:16.380 because I'm not harboring a felon and a fugitive, respectively,
01:01:19.560 in my two homes for which I allegedly committed mortgage fraud
01:01:22.960 down in Virginia, Victor.
01:01:24.320 I don't know.
01:01:24.880 Maybe she has a lot of people like that in her constituency.
01:01:28.200 Not sure.
01:01:29.860 Why is she a victim, though?
01:01:32.120 She bragged in both of her races,
01:01:35.280 in her re-election and her original campaign to be attorney general,
01:01:38.140 she said,
01:01:39.260 I have my eye on Trump Tower.
01:01:41.220 She went out and used the law and manipulated it
01:01:44.040 and then was reversed on the fine, at least,
01:01:46.920 and probably will be on the charge.
01:01:48.860 So it's a matter of fact that there was nothing to her legal case,
01:01:54.300 and she persecuted someone,
01:01:55.860 and she used racialized language when she did it.
01:01:59.040 And so she's a perpetrator.
01:02:01.540 She's a victimizer.
01:02:02.560 She's not a victim.
01:02:03.960 And then, you know, the other thing that's really disturbing,
01:02:06.620 when you went through those sentences,
01:02:08.920 why are all these people getting suspended sentences?
01:02:12.140 And I thought it was against the law to knowingly harbor a fugitive.
01:02:17.140 I thought it was a felony.
01:02:18.440 If a person has a writ out and they're in your home and you know that,
01:02:21.800 and they're evading law enforcement,
01:02:24.480 it seems like that is a crime.
01:02:27.360 And I thought if you were a statewide elected officer in New York
01:02:32.580 and you're attorney general,
01:02:33.680 your primary residence had to be in the state.
01:02:36.340 It does.
01:02:36.940 Why doesn't somebody say,
01:02:40.200 if you say that your primary residence is not in the state,
01:02:43.520 then you're liable to recall or dismiss some consequences.
01:02:47.920 But the common theme with all of this is,
01:02:51.180 if I say enough, A, anti-Trump stuff,
01:02:55.940 or if I play the victim or the race or the gender,
01:02:59.140 whatever the card is,
01:03:00.460 then I get an exemption.
01:03:02.300 And I know that it'll work because it's worked in the past.
01:03:05.200 And then it's almost Orwellian just for her to get up there
01:03:10.920 after what she did by distorting and manipulating the law
01:03:15.360 to go after a political opponent
01:03:17.460 and then to get elected on that basis
01:03:20.200 and then to play that she's a victim and they're going after her
01:03:24.380 and she's got all this criminal exposure and liability
01:03:27.500 and she hasn't paid one, no price for it.
01:03:31.360 None of her family, they get suspended sentences,
01:03:34.000 they're evading law enforcement.
01:03:35.860 I thought, you know, when they found out,
01:03:39.180 the next scene would be, I don't know,
01:03:41.440 a SWAT team that went after Donald Trump or something.
01:03:44.180 They would show up at the House
01:03:45.440 and they said that we have a warrant out for your arrest
01:03:48.980 and we're going to arrest you.
01:03:50.200 And they didn't even do that, apparently.
01:03:52.040 So I guess the idea that they assume these political officials are,
01:03:58.700 and I guess on the left,
01:04:00.580 that once you stake out this premise
01:04:03.300 that you have been wronged or historically wronged
01:04:08.320 or you're a victim,
01:04:09.660 then any type of behavior is okay
01:04:11.860 and there won't be consequences.
01:04:13.840 And the sad thing is I think they're right.
01:04:16.060 It works.
01:04:17.460 And Mondami is even playing a victim.
01:04:19.260 And so when you get these very affluent people,
01:04:22.980 multiple houses, big salaries,
01:04:25.980 and then they talk as if they're on the barricades
01:04:28.460 and somebody's out to get them,
01:04:30.420 it seems to work, at least with half the population.
01:04:34.360 But it's destroying the country.
01:04:37.280 There's no, nobody has any confidence in the law anymore.
01:04:40.720 They don't feel that justice will be dispensed equally.
01:04:43.780 Look at the two tough law enforcement officials
01:04:45.620 that we just discussed.
01:04:46.660 There's Tish James,
01:04:47.800 who's now accused of committing mortgage fraud in Virginia.
01:04:53.200 And then there's Jay Jones,
01:04:55.180 who wants to be the top law enforcement official of Virginia,
01:04:58.660 who's calling for the murder of Republicans and their children.
01:05:01.720 No wonder people might have their doubts
01:05:03.660 about whether there really are two systems of justice here.
01:05:07.400 And you're so right about Letitia James
01:05:09.660 trying to play the victim here.
01:05:12.600 She's the perpetrator.
01:05:13.800 She all along has been like, I'll get him.
01:05:16.020 She ran for office before we knew whether he'd done anything,
01:05:19.580 a crime, a civil violation, anything.
01:05:21.360 She was like, just trust me, I'll find the thing.
01:05:24.700 I will get him.
01:05:25.460 And then indeed she did.
01:05:26.980 She dredged up this law that she said he violated,
01:05:29.900 that the court laughed at her for
01:05:32.160 when it was all said and done.
01:05:33.400 Like, what are you talking about?
01:05:34.340 Like this, no one's ever been charged on this.
01:05:36.480 And I think the Supreme Court, if it goes that far,
01:05:38.020 will overrule this conviction
01:05:39.060 because they don't like corruption charges
01:05:41.040 or fraud charges that are made up like this at all.
01:05:43.800 And in any event, she persecuted him.
01:05:46.480 She persecuted him and tried to steal
01:05:48.620 his $500 million business and celebrated it.
01:05:53.900 She wanted us to look at her as like
01:05:55.300 some Joan of Arc character.
01:05:57.080 And now, rather than having the dignity
01:06:00.360 to at least laugh this off and be like,
01:06:02.880 oh, this is Trump.
01:06:04.080 It's retribution.
01:06:05.520 Don't worry.
01:06:06.440 I've got it.
01:06:07.080 She's like, I will.
01:06:10.000 I will not bow.
01:06:11.340 I will not bend.
01:06:13.000 I will not break.
01:06:14.840 Like, leaning into it.
01:06:16.780 Like, I love it.
01:06:17.900 Oh, yes.
01:06:18.640 He's playing into my victim complex.
01:06:21.480 This is the height of achievement
01:06:23.360 for a certain sect of the Democratic Party.
01:06:26.220 Like, oh, my God.
01:06:27.840 I actually get to be a victim.
01:06:29.680 Yeah, and I guess what's tragic about this,
01:06:36.920 because I'm 72, I can remember in my teens
01:06:40.560 at the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s,
01:06:43.080 its theme, what we all heard.
01:06:45.320 I remember my parents grew up from my farm,
01:06:47.560 and I actually heard Martin Luther King speak
01:06:49.460 at Grace Cathedral.
01:06:51.420 And the message originally was that
01:06:53.820 any time you give exemptions to anybody,
01:06:56.920 other than on a meritocratic basis, it's wrong.
01:07:00.660 So there was the old boy white network,
01:07:03.500 and there was truth to that,
01:07:04.820 that people who are African American
01:07:06.400 were not given a fair shot and a level,
01:07:09.800 I heard that term all the time,
01:07:11.440 all we want is a level playing field.
01:07:13.780 And then 60 years later,
01:07:16.580 these so-called victims and civil rights activists
01:07:20.360 have morphed into exactly what they were,
01:07:23.360 what their grandparents said was wrong.
01:07:25.900 And they are now saying that
01:07:27.920 because even though I haven't suffered anything
01:07:30.040 and I've actually gamed the system,
01:07:32.260 somebody 60 years ago did and before,
01:07:35.920 and therefore I'm going to do the same thing
01:07:38.400 that the old white boy network did.
01:07:41.120 I want exemption, exemption, I'm a victim,
01:07:44.100 and I don't have to go through the regular process
01:07:47.180 of meritocratic evaluation,
01:07:49.100 or I don't have to have the same exposure
01:07:51.080 to the law or the legal system,
01:07:52.920 because I'm a victim.
01:07:54.940 And you wonder when it's going to end.
01:07:57.580 And as I said earlier,
01:07:58.820 economically we'll get to the point
01:08:00.540 where a person's gender or you
01:08:03.600 doesn't really ascertain their class status anymore,
01:08:06.700 at least in a lot of cases.
01:08:09.220 No, I hate to take it back to the view,
01:08:13.880 but I'm going to,
01:08:14.700 because Sunny Hostin is sitting over there.
01:08:16.600 She's a black American who had stellar education,
01:08:21.160 became a well-paid lawyer,
01:08:24.540 became a very well-paid TV personality,
01:08:27.500 guarantee this woman makes over $3 million a year.
01:08:30.460 She has a huge mansion,
01:08:31.640 which we've shown before on television.
01:08:33.900 In fact, we should pull that over, guys.
01:08:35.040 Um, she shows it off.
01:08:37.260 She's very,
01:08:37.600 her son just graduated from Harvard.
01:08:39.620 And listen to how she is still talking
01:08:43.260 about her experience in this horrible place
01:08:46.340 she calls America.
01:08:47.420 This is in the response to those few
01:08:50.160 so-called young Republicans on some text chain
01:08:53.160 saying terrible things,
01:08:54.260 racist things and other things.
01:08:55.840 Um, she wants to pretend it's,
01:08:57.420 it's America,
01:08:58.220 it's Republicans in general.
01:09:00.300 Here she is in,
01:09:02.000 with Joy Behar in SOT 17.
01:09:03.380 The Republican Party needs to deal with this.
01:09:07.860 They need to find their better selves,
01:09:10.040 find their better angels.
01:09:11.060 I'm not surprised that that chat exists.
01:09:13.640 I wasn't surprised that men,
01:09:16.720 adults, ages 25 to 34,
01:09:19.380 white men,
01:09:19.920 There were white guys, by the way.
01:09:20.660 Let's just point that out.
01:09:21.700 White men were speaking like that.
01:09:24.160 Um, you know,
01:09:24.380 they checked every white supremacist bigot box.
01:09:27.920 They were anti-Semitic,
01:09:29.260 they were misogynistic,
01:09:30.820 they were homophobic,
01:09:31.380 they were racist.
01:09:33.620 My lived experience as an Afro-Latina in this country,
01:09:36.600 makes me tell the uncomfortable truths
01:09:40.160 about this country with real clarity.
01:09:42.980 And that's why I wasn't surprised.
01:09:44.840 Trump's rise, in part,
01:09:46.960 was based in racism and white supremacy.
01:09:50.580 The future of the Republican Party
01:09:53.040 embraces white supremacy.
01:09:55.240 Please believe me the first time
01:09:57.300 and only look at this chat
01:09:59.580 as your proof
01:10:01.200 that it is alive and well
01:10:03.600 in the Republican Party.
01:10:05.800 I see.
01:10:07.060 It's,
01:10:07.980 she's a victim
01:10:08.780 and Republicans are racist,
01:10:11.140 notwithstanding the fact that
01:10:12.480 she's made it
01:10:13.600 all the way to the side of the view
01:10:15.040 and is a multimillionaire
01:10:16.260 and her son just graduated from Harvard.
01:10:18.920 But this country's racist
01:10:20.100 and they can't stand black people,
01:10:22.220 notwithstanding, again,
01:10:23.020 the fact that we just had a black president,
01:10:24.860 we have black Supreme Court justices,
01:10:26.360 we just had a black vice president,
01:10:27.800 the Democratic nominee was black,
01:10:29.340 the Republicans also ran a black man
01:10:31.880 for the presidency
01:10:33.100 for the nomination,
01:10:33.960 Tim Scott,
01:10:34.400 who didn't wind up getting it,
01:10:35.400 but that's still,
01:10:36.360 we are stuck in Jim Crow,
01:10:38.040 if you listen to Sonny Hostin.
01:10:39.380 And there's a lot of people on the left,
01:10:43.080 she doesn't think,
01:10:44.120 that have some weird psychological
01:10:45.780 squaring the circle
01:10:47.120 where they,
01:10:48.880 if they feel that a black person
01:10:50.920 is conservative
01:10:51.560 like Clarence Thomas
01:10:52.720 or Winsome Sears,
01:10:54.040 then they get a blank check
01:10:55.080 to use a race card.
01:10:56.060 There was a cartoonist
01:10:57.100 that portrayed Winsome Sears
01:11:00.000 and that was right out of something
01:11:01.400 in 1860s in the South.
01:11:03.680 She had exaggerated lips
01:11:05.220 and then she was dancing
01:11:06.500 like she was a minstrel
01:11:08.680 and kind of gesticulating
01:11:10.360 and that didn't come from
01:11:12.620 people on the right.
01:11:14.060 If they are referring
01:11:15.560 to those Republican people
01:11:16.940 on that list,
01:11:18.080 I don't know one major Republican
01:11:19.800 that hasn't condemned it
01:11:20.940 and I think they've been drummed out
01:11:22.660 of whatever official voice they have.
01:11:24.420 Nor have any of us
01:11:25.360 ever heard of these people.
01:11:26.700 No, I've never heard of them.
01:11:27.900 Who ever heard of the names in there?
01:11:29.580 Nobody's ever heard of them
01:11:30.760 but we've heard of her
01:11:32.080 and we've heard of Michelle Obama
01:11:33.840 and we hear all the time
01:11:35.680 race, race,
01:11:36.980 and then it gets,
01:11:38.380 it gets the logical conclusion is
01:11:40.800 what if she doesn't do that?
01:11:42.980 What if she doesn't mention race?
01:11:45.180 What if she's like Tim Scott?
01:11:47.200 Or what if she's like
01:11:48.300 a Republican African American?
01:11:50.800 And then magical things happen.
01:11:53.740 They get into the world
01:11:55.520 of equal opportunity,
01:11:56.720 not for ordained result
01:11:58.420 and they do well,
01:11:59.880 just as well as anybody else
01:12:01.340 and they don't have
01:12:02.600 any victim baggage
01:12:03.660 and that's the big difference
01:12:05.160 between the Republican
01:12:06.080 and the Democrat
01:12:07.120 liberal conservative
01:12:08.120 is that you have
01:12:10.820 a meritocratic process.
01:12:12.460 It reminds me of what Tom saw.
01:12:13.880 I used to have lunch with him
01:12:14.880 twice a month,
01:12:16.020 my colleague,
01:12:16.660 and he'd always say,
01:12:17.560 do you have a good doctor, Victor?
01:12:20.260 Do you go?
01:12:20.620 And I said yes
01:12:21.540 and he said,
01:12:22.660 what he basically said
01:12:24.520 is whatever group
01:12:25.500 was a victim of persecution
01:12:27.760 or prejudice
01:12:28.580 or systematic racism
01:12:30.440 and there were people
01:12:31.600 in that group
01:12:32.640 that didn't get
01:12:33.740 special preference
01:12:34.620 and maybe he would want
01:12:36.220 to find a doctor
01:12:37.220 so he'd always say,
01:12:38.460 you know,
01:12:38.600 some of the best doctors
01:12:39.520 in the United States
01:12:40.320 were African Americans
01:12:41.680 in the 1950s
01:12:43.020 because you had to be
01:12:44.520 on a level playing field
01:12:46.640 and I said,
01:12:47.520 is that true now?
01:12:48.320 And he says,
01:12:48.840 no,
01:12:49.480 maybe I have to find
01:12:50.520 other groups
01:12:51.280 that have been oppressed
01:12:52.600 and therefore they've come,
01:12:55.220 that it's kind of a,
01:12:56.620 he didn't approve of that.
01:12:57.880 He was just remarking
01:12:59.380 on the irony of it
01:13:00.520 and so I don't think
01:13:03.880 it's going to end well
01:13:05.240 for the Democrats
01:13:05.940 and you can see
01:13:07.000 that they know it
01:13:08.000 and they know that
01:13:08.800 they are alienating
01:13:10.480 the population
01:13:11.300 and all of these issues,
01:13:12.820 crime,
01:13:13.300 the border,
01:13:14.200 illegal immigration,
01:13:15.400 they're not polling well
01:13:16.760 and what they have to do
01:13:18.460 is they either have to change,
01:13:20.120 I'll be frank,
01:13:20.860 change the demography
01:13:21.720 in their own words.
01:13:23.420 We have 55,000,
01:13:25.360 55 million people
01:13:26.580 that were not born in America now.
01:13:28.540 It's the highest ever
01:13:29.300 and then percentages too,
01:13:31.080 16%
01:13:31.820 or they have to change the system.
01:13:34.160 They're trying to change
01:13:34.940 the filibuster
01:13:35.740 or the electoral college
01:13:38.440 or the Supreme Court composition
01:13:39.880 or they have to just to create
01:13:41.840 what they're doing now,
01:13:43.020 chaos on the,
01:13:44.160 shut down the government,
01:13:45.680 bomb Tesla,
01:13:47.440 have these riots,
01:13:49.420 create so much chaos
01:13:50.880 that the average American
01:13:52.260 just gets in a fetal position,
01:13:54.580 puts his hands over his ears
01:13:55.920 and say,
01:13:56.300 make it all go away.
01:13:57.200 I don't know who started it.
01:13:58.460 I don't know how it happened
01:13:59.720 but if Trump is involved,
01:14:01.540 let me just get,
01:14:02.420 I just want out of it.
01:14:03.380 I just want calm again.
01:14:04.420 That's their strategy
01:14:05.320 but it's never constructive.
01:14:07.360 It's never,
01:14:08.160 we are individuals.
01:14:09.460 We're going to be judged
01:14:10.380 on our individual merits.
01:14:12.220 We're going to have compassion
01:14:13.240 for those who don't do
01:14:14.280 as well as we
01:14:15.060 but we're not going to mandate equality.
01:14:17.000 They never say that
01:14:17.960 but it comes,
01:14:19.380 they have to have
01:14:20.300 a self-perpetuating victim idea
01:14:22.920 because they don't have confidence
01:14:24.700 that they're going to get
01:14:25.580 the same income,
01:14:27.080 the same privileges
01:14:27.940 if they drop the victim status
01:14:30.800 and that's it.
01:14:31.360 They love it.
01:14:32.020 They revel in it.
01:14:33.440 I mean,
01:14:33.640 we did find the video
01:14:34.720 of Sunny Hostin's house
01:14:35.620 available because
01:14:36.380 she filmed it
01:14:37.360 and put it online.
01:14:38.400 Here it is.
01:14:39.560 Okay,
01:14:39.980 the listening audience,
01:14:41.180 it's a mansion.
01:14:42.660 It's got top of the line
01:14:44.160 cabinetry
01:14:45.020 and tiling
01:14:46.320 and the beautiful
01:14:48.020 wooden staircase
01:14:49.480 leading up to a window seat
01:14:50.940 with all beautiful windows
01:14:54.040 looking out over
01:14:55.200 what was,
01:14:55.960 I'm sure,
01:14:56.280 is a huge lawn.
01:14:57.620 Now,
01:14:58.500 we get like her art.
01:15:00.220 Okay,
01:15:00.580 whatever.
01:15:01.380 So Sunny Hostin
01:15:02.300 has it made
01:15:03.700 in this amazing,
01:15:05.380 beautiful house.
01:15:07.640 Obviously,
01:15:08.320 a multi-million dollar property
01:15:09.920 and yet,
01:15:10.560 she wants you to know
01:15:11.740 that her lived experience
01:15:14.620 as an Afro-Latina
01:15:16.140 in this country
01:15:17.080 is that we are all racist,
01:15:19.040 that she has proof
01:15:20.760 white supremacy
01:15:21.900 is alive
01:15:22.820 and well
01:15:23.780 because of these morons
01:15:25.400 in some group chat
01:15:26.960 who somehow
01:15:28.020 she wants to elevate
01:15:28.800 to representative
01:15:29.480 of the country
01:15:30.380 and certainly of Republicans.
01:15:31.800 That's her.
01:15:33.340 She should go to
01:15:34.000 East Palestine, Ohio
01:15:35.180 and tell people that
01:15:36.280 and just say,
01:15:37.080 you know what,
01:15:37.440 you guys are all,
01:15:38.640 you've done all these
01:15:39.580 bad things to me
01:15:40.480 and you're just
01:15:41.280 so well off
01:15:42.400 because of your
01:15:43.000 white privilege.
01:15:43.720 I don't think
01:15:44.620 it's going to sell very well.
01:15:46.540 It's of course
01:15:47.220 not just her.
01:15:48.420 There's,
01:15:48.920 I'll get to Michelle Obama
01:15:50.800 in a second,
01:15:51.200 but there's a guy
01:15:51.760 running for,
01:15:53.240 for the,
01:15:54.580 let's see,
01:15:55.460 it's the main
01:15:56.380 Senate race.
01:15:57.780 Susan Collins
01:15:58.320 has not stated
01:15:58.900 whether she's going
01:15:59.460 to run for re-election.
01:16:00.720 So right now
01:16:01.260 there are eight
01:16:01.780 declared Dems
01:16:02.540 running in the primary
01:16:03.560 and one of them
01:16:05.140 is this guy,
01:16:05.780 Graham Plattner,
01:16:07.640 former Marine infantryman,
01:16:09.500 later served
01:16:10.140 as an Army National Guard
01:16:11.060 soldier
01:16:11.400 and private security
01:16:12.280 contractor.
01:16:13.000 Starts off well.
01:16:13.720 It goes downhill
01:16:14.660 from there.
01:16:15.720 High profile endorsement
01:16:16.720 from Bernie Sanders,
01:16:17.680 outspoken economic populist
01:16:19.980 and the K-files,
01:16:21.740 Andrew Kaczynski
01:16:22.440 of CNN
01:16:23.080 unearthed a bunch
01:16:25.100 of comments
01:16:25.580 he has from
01:16:26.380 an internet
01:16:26.960 like forum subreddits
01:16:28.340 in which he calls
01:16:29.800 himself a communist.
01:16:31.120 He dismissed
01:16:32.160 all police
01:16:33.220 as bastards
01:16:34.060 and said
01:16:35.040 rural white Americans
01:16:36.120 actually are
01:16:37.140 racist
01:16:37.700 and stupid.
01:16:38.720 and now he's
01:16:40.540 trying to dismiss
01:16:41.280 these
01:16:41.780 as like,
01:16:43.140 oh,
01:16:43.460 I was just
01:16:43.960 disillusioned
01:16:45.640 and angry,
01:16:47.140 you know,
01:16:47.300 kind of like
01:16:47.660 I was younger
01:16:48.280 and they don't
01:16:48.740 really reflect
01:16:49.360 who I am.
01:16:50.600 It was 2021.
01:16:52.460 I'm not sure we can
01:16:54.040 get away with the
01:16:55.040 youthful indiscretion
01:16:56.400 text excuse
01:16:57.840 when it was
01:16:59.040 literally four years
01:17:00.600 ago
01:17:00.940 and he
01:17:02.480 doubled down
01:17:03.020 on them
01:17:03.360 repeatedly.
01:17:04.940 This is,
01:17:06.160 so what she's
01:17:06.840 saying,
01:17:07.480 you know,
01:17:07.820 like,
01:17:08.580 the Republicans
01:17:09.200 are racist.
01:17:10.800 My lived experience
01:17:12.200 is white supremacy
01:17:13.500 reigns in America
01:17:15.220 and here you have
01:17:15.920 this guy
01:17:16.900 going out there
01:17:17.620 saying
01:17:18.080 white rural
01:17:19.900 Americans
01:17:20.500 are
01:17:21.180 as racist
01:17:22.500 and stupid
01:17:23.620 as you might think.
01:17:25.220 They're the ones
01:17:26.260 saying the quiet part
01:17:27.920 out loud
01:17:28.720 and
01:17:30.040 showing us
01:17:31.220 what they think
01:17:31.700 of our country.
01:17:32.620 All right,
01:17:32.780 just,
01:17:33.320 I don't want to spend
01:17:33.660 time on this guy
01:17:34.180 because I really do
01:17:34.700 want to get to Michelle Obama
01:17:35.600 and you and I
01:17:35.920 have a lot to go over.
01:17:37.620 A couple weeks ago
01:17:38.580 I did a fact check
01:17:39.560 on the attacks
01:17:40.220 coming down
01:17:40.700 against Charlie.
01:17:42.180 Nicole Hannah-Jones
01:17:42.820 and many others
01:17:43.380 have raised
01:17:43.900 this comment
01:17:45.080 without giving
01:17:46.740 the context
01:17:47.360 where he said,
01:17:48.180 they said,
01:17:48.540 oh,
01:17:48.700 he says black women
01:17:49.820 don't have the brain
01:17:50.900 processing power
01:17:52.020 to make it
01:17:53.160 in life
01:17:54.020 and that those
01:17:55.680 who went to
01:17:56.120 Ivy League universities
01:17:57.020 stole
01:17:57.860 a white person's
01:17:59.380 spot.
01:18:00.680 Now,
01:18:01.300 that is totally
01:18:02.760 out of context.
01:18:03.600 You have to hear
01:18:04.240 what Charlie
01:18:04.840 actually said
01:18:05.580 because,
01:18:06.140 of course,
01:18:06.480 he was talking
01:18:07.080 about affirmative
01:18:08.480 action.
01:18:09.560 In which,
01:18:10.540 yes,
01:18:10.900 indeed,
01:18:11.600 when it is given
01:18:12.200 to a black
01:18:12.980 or a brown person
01:18:13.780 and it's given
01:18:14.880 to them based
01:18:15.340 on skin color,
01:18:16.220 a place in a university,
01:18:18.040 it absolutely is,
01:18:19.240 quote,
01:18:19.660 stealing a spot
01:18:20.400 from either a white
01:18:21.560 or an Asian.
01:18:22.700 And we know that
01:18:23.300 because there was
01:18:23.660 a whole U.S.
01:18:24.220 Supreme Court case
01:18:24.920 in which whites
01:18:26.120 and Asians
01:18:26.600 brought a complaint
01:18:27.940 saying we're the ones
01:18:29.260 being disadvantaged
01:18:30.000 systematically
01:18:30.920 by places like Harvard
01:18:32.040 and it's illegal.
01:18:33.300 It's illegal race
01:18:34.120 discrimination against us.
01:18:35.160 And the Supreme Court
01:18:36.380 agreed,
01:18:37.400 100% agreed.
01:18:40.040 Here's the Charlie comment
01:18:41.500 and then I'm going to show
01:18:42.320 you what Michelle Obama
01:18:43.100 just said.
01:18:43.980 If we would have said
01:18:44.940 that Joy Reid
01:18:46.180 and Michelle Obama
01:18:47.400 and Sheila Jackson Lee
01:18:49.200 and Katanji Brown Jackson
01:18:50.780 were affirmative action picks,
01:18:52.320 we would have been
01:18:52.900 called the racist.
01:18:55.640 But now they're coming out
01:18:57.080 and they're saying it for us.
01:18:58.740 They're coming out
01:18:59.620 and they're saying,
01:19:00.120 I'm only here
01:19:01.600 because of affirmative action.
01:19:03.060 Yeah, we know.
01:19:04.700 You do not have
01:19:05.740 the brain processing power
01:19:07.040 to otherwise
01:19:07.660 be taken really seriously.
01:19:10.000 You had to go steal
01:19:11.320 a white person's slot
01:19:12.380 to go be taken
01:19:13.300 somewhat seriously.
01:19:14.760 Play cut 52.
01:19:15.860 But I rise today
01:19:16.780 as a clear recipient
01:19:18.680 of affirmative action.
01:19:21.340 And particularly
01:19:21.920 in higher education,
01:19:23.660 I may have been admitted
01:19:24.980 on affirmative action
01:19:26.080 both in terms of being
01:19:27.200 a woman
01:19:27.600 and a woman of color.
01:19:29.240 But I can declare
01:19:31.180 that I did not graduate
01:19:32.580 on affirmative action.
01:19:33.900 This is my personal story.
01:19:36.100 It's very obvious to us
01:19:38.100 that you were not smart enough
01:19:39.840 to be able to get in
01:19:40.940 on your own.
01:19:42.220 I couldn't make it
01:19:43.160 on my own,
01:19:43.820 so I needed to make
01:19:44.540 take opportunities
01:19:45.280 from someone more deserving.
01:19:46.640 You know,
01:19:46.880 this is how arrogant
01:19:47.920 Joy Reid and Katanji Brown Jackson
01:19:49.720 and Michelle Obama
01:19:50.480 and Sheila Jackson Lee are.
01:19:51.920 They're so narcissistic,
01:19:53.200 they think this is persuasive.
01:19:56.060 He's 100% right.
01:19:57.220 By the way,
01:19:57.700 Joy Reid went to Harvard.
01:19:58.780 I mean,
01:19:59.300 that's all you really need
01:19:59.980 to know about what a farce
01:20:01.400 affirmative action is.
01:20:02.620 She went to Harvard.
01:20:03.700 Michelle Obama went to Princeton.
01:20:05.460 Sheila Jackson Lee
01:20:06.220 went to Harvard.
01:20:08.200 And Katanji Brown Jackson
01:20:09.760 did too.
01:20:11.080 So Michelle Obama
01:20:11.880 has already admitted
01:20:12.680 before that she got
01:20:13.600 into Princeton
01:20:14.140 via affirmative action.
01:20:15.360 That's how Charlie knew it.
01:20:17.000 And listen to her.
01:20:18.860 She went on
01:20:19.420 the Lewis Howes podcast.
01:20:21.140 It was released in May
01:20:22.400 of 2025,
01:20:23.380 but they cut
01:20:24.340 a shorter version
01:20:25.300 and re-released
01:20:26.240 parts of it
01:20:26.960 just now,
01:20:27.700 which is how it caught
01:20:28.320 our attention.
01:20:29.240 And listen to what
01:20:30.580 Michelle Obama
01:20:31.460 says about that experience
01:20:33.440 in SOT 29.
01:20:35.620 I wasn't a great test taker.
01:20:37.240 I was a great grade getter,
01:20:38.940 but I wasn't good
01:20:40.040 on SAT.
01:20:40.920 So I had good grades,
01:20:42.120 not great scores.
01:20:43.280 So all the scores said,
01:20:44.880 you don't belong
01:20:45.800 at Princeton.
01:20:46.880 And there were people
01:20:47.740 who saw me,
01:20:49.020 saw the color of my skin
01:20:50.100 and said,
01:20:50.580 you're aiming too high.
01:20:52.100 Can you imagine
01:20:52.820 going to these schools
01:20:54.060 being told
01:20:55.740 that you're not ready?
01:20:57.320 And that was
01:20:58.280 my first insecurity
01:20:59.660 of thinking,
01:21:00.380 well,
01:21:00.480 maybe I don't belong here.
01:21:02.320 And that's the world
01:21:03.140 telling you
01:21:03.760 that you don't belong.
01:21:04.660 Even though it's like,
01:21:05.420 well,
01:21:05.600 all my experiences
01:21:06.660 up until this point
01:21:07.780 say that,
01:21:08.420 why wouldn't I belong here?
01:21:10.260 So how did you overcome
01:21:11.160 that belief
01:21:12.180 that you don't belong
01:21:13.060 or that other people
01:21:14.180 are telling you
01:21:14.800 you don't belong?
01:21:15.920 I got there
01:21:16.880 and I looked around
01:21:17.680 and went,
01:21:18.300 oh my God.
01:21:19.520 Sat in a few classes.
01:21:20.660 Sat in a few classes
01:21:21.420 and sort of realized
01:21:22.920 that affirmative action
01:21:24.060 isn't just the color
01:21:25.120 of your skin,
01:21:25.840 but there were a lot of kids
01:21:26.740 that were legacy kids.
01:21:28.160 They were athletes.
01:21:29.240 They were,
01:21:29.620 it was like,
01:21:30.200 and then you sit in class
01:21:31.420 with people,
01:21:32.160 a lot of bright people,
01:21:33.380 but there were a lot of people
01:21:34.580 that were just,
01:21:36.500 so you wonder,
01:21:37.300 well,
01:21:37.400 how'd you get here?
01:21:39.840 Okay.
01:21:41.120 So there she is
01:21:42.760 saying almost exactly
01:21:44.200 what Charlie said,
01:21:45.700 that she did not
01:21:46.740 have the scores.
01:21:47.920 Another way of saying
01:21:48.960 it would be brain power.
01:21:50.280 It is an aptitude
01:21:51.240 test to get into
01:21:52.880 Princeton on her own,
01:21:54.500 that they had to lower
01:21:55.400 the standards for her
01:21:56.560 and they were willing
01:21:57.760 to do that
01:21:58.360 because of the color
01:21:59.100 of her skin,
01:21:59.800 but she changes it
01:22:01.560 to the color
01:22:02.840 of her skin
01:22:03.840 led people to believe
01:22:05.420 she didn't belong
01:22:06.440 at Princeton.
01:22:07.160 No,
01:22:07.780 the color of her skin
01:22:08.880 is the reason
01:22:09.600 she got into Princeton
01:22:11.240 and got a lifetime
01:22:12.780 of advantages
01:22:14.100 that she's still
01:22:15.800 living high on the hog
01:22:16.840 from,
01:22:17.120 but she's still
01:22:18.400 bitter about it,
01:22:19.960 Victor still
01:22:20.960 to this day
01:22:21.580 and Charlie's
01:22:22.380 being called
01:22:22.740 a racist
01:22:23.180 for saying
01:22:24.080 exactly what
01:22:24.980 she said
01:22:25.420 in that clip.
01:22:26.800 Yeah,
01:22:27.380 and you know,
01:22:27.860 it's weird.
01:22:28.600 I've spent
01:22:29.280 over 50 years
01:22:30.740 in academia
01:22:31.320 and a number
01:22:32.440 of institutions
01:22:33.180 and I can tell you
01:22:34.680 that among the faculty,
01:22:36.620 one of the greatest
01:22:37.380 criticisms is
01:22:39.040 that they do
01:22:40.300 let in legacies.
01:22:41.460 A lot of the legacies
01:22:42.140 are very qualified,
01:22:43.080 but they do let
01:22:43.940 in legacies.
01:22:45.020 So she says,
01:22:45.940 well,
01:22:46.480 there are all
01:22:46.880 these legacies here
01:22:47.840 and everybody
01:22:48.280 doesn't,
01:22:48.880 and that's
01:22:49.680 as criticized
01:22:50.700 as affirmative action.
01:22:52.160 And I can tell you
01:22:53.360 in the CSU system
01:22:55.060 that I taught in,
01:22:55.840 I would get calls
01:22:56.760 from coaches
01:22:57.380 and say,
01:22:57.920 Victor,
01:22:59.100 this guy
01:22:59.740 is middle linebacker
01:23:01.180 or this guy,
01:23:02.220 I don't know
01:23:02.580 how he ended up
01:23:03.280 in your class,
01:23:04.200 but you've got
01:23:05.920 to do something
01:23:06.600 and he couldn't
01:23:07.560 do the work
01:23:08.140 and you'd say,
01:23:08.880 no,
01:23:09.660 you go talk
01:23:10.220 to the administrator
01:23:10.820 and get him out.
01:23:11.440 I'm not going to do it.
01:23:12.140 He's going to get an F.
01:23:12.900 But the point
01:23:13.500 I'm making is
01:23:14.300 that people
01:23:15.620 have always objected
01:23:17.200 to athletes
01:23:18.000 who can't do the work
01:23:19.400 but get exemptions
01:23:21.160 or rich kids
01:23:22.260 that their parents
01:23:23.140 get in
01:23:23.560 or people
01:23:24.240 who get in
01:23:24.960 on their color.
01:23:26.480 But what she's saying
01:23:27.300 is,
01:23:28.160 well,
01:23:28.380 I got in here
01:23:29.260 and I found out
01:23:30.700 that the guys,
01:23:31.760 some of the legacies
01:23:32.660 and the athletes
01:23:33.260 were no better qualified
01:23:34.360 than I was.
01:23:35.000 Well,
01:23:35.200 yeah,
01:23:35.480 that's true,
01:23:36.280 but that's not
01:23:37.060 a justification for it.
01:23:39.340 People criticize
01:23:40.340 that all the time.
01:23:41.520 You know,
01:23:42.420 the late Christopher Hitchens,
01:23:44.940 I knew pretty well.
01:23:46.160 He was a man of the left
01:23:47.120 and he had written
01:23:48.140 about her
01:23:48.780 Princeton senior thesis.
01:23:51.740 So,
01:23:52.500 I knew him pretty well
01:23:53.860 and he called me up
01:23:54.560 and he sent it to me,
01:23:55.760 you know,
01:23:56.040 PDF.
01:23:57.120 And I could not
01:23:58.520 understand it.
01:23:59.460 I'm not kidding you.
01:24:00.300 It was written
01:24:00.700 in some language
01:24:01.620 that I was not familiar with.
01:24:03.100 It was all this
01:24:03.780 fake postmodern,
01:24:05.680 it was all about
01:24:06.580 oppression
01:24:07.880 and how alumni
01:24:08.800 had to help out
01:24:09.720 black stoop,
01:24:10.380 but it was all
01:24:11.180 it was very,
01:24:12.940 it was unreadable
01:24:13.900 and as someone
01:24:15.360 who taught
01:24:15.980 both at places
01:24:17.120 that were considered
01:24:18.340 prestigious
01:24:19.000 and not prestigious,
01:24:20.020 I could tell you
01:24:21.220 that that would not
01:24:22.120 have qualified.
01:24:23.900 So,
01:24:24.160 when she says,
01:24:24.720 when I got there,
01:24:25.920 I felt like,
01:24:27.660 why are they picking on me?
01:24:29.080 Well,
01:24:29.380 they've been picking
01:24:29.880 on everybody
01:24:30.500 who didn't get
01:24:32.220 the requisite
01:24:33.260 SAT scores.
01:24:35.040 And I can tell you,
01:24:36.000 when I graduated
01:24:36.960 from college
01:24:38.360 and I knew
01:24:39.160 that I wanted
01:24:40.200 to go to
01:24:40.640 Stanford University's
01:24:41.680 PhD program
01:24:42.540 and they had
01:24:43.160 the LSAT
01:24:43.920 and I knew
01:24:45.520 that you had
01:24:46.040 to get almost
01:24:46.520 a perfect score
01:24:47.340 to get in,
01:24:48.080 even though
01:24:48.620 all your grades
01:24:49.760 could be perfect.
01:24:50.940 You could have
01:24:51.340 four years of Latin
01:24:52.160 for,
01:24:52.620 so what did I do?
01:24:54.040 I did what
01:24:54.500 everybody else did.
01:24:55.620 I got about
01:24:56.200 six books
01:24:56.880 on the LSAT
01:24:57.700 and I studied
01:24:59.040 for about
01:24:59.600 50 weeks
01:25:01.200 for my whole
01:25:02.160 senior year
01:25:02.780 and I remember
01:25:03.260 I had little
01:25:03.740 note cards
01:25:04.500 I carried around
01:25:05.360 everywhere with me
01:25:06.640 and I would
01:25:07.540 flip them,
01:25:08.100 you know,
01:25:08.240 there are all
01:25:08.480 these words
01:25:08.980 we never use
01:25:10.000 but if they're
01:25:10.680 on the test
01:25:11.340 and if you can
01:25:12.240 identify them
01:25:12.980 then suddenly
01:25:13.500 you're considered
01:25:14.140 a good test taker.
01:25:15.780 So the point is
01:25:16.560 she says
01:25:16.860 I'm never
01:25:17.180 a good test taker
01:25:18.000 well then
01:25:18.320 improve on it
01:25:19.200 but she is
01:25:20.200 naturally bright
01:25:21.040 but it's always
01:25:22.080 the tests
01:25:24.180 were,
01:25:24.900 so,
01:25:25.460 and,
01:25:25.640 you know,
01:25:26.200 statistically
01:25:26.860 African American
01:25:27.900 applicants
01:25:28.580 who are admitted
01:25:29.800 often range
01:25:31.320 between
01:25:31.700 150
01:25:32.440 to 200
01:25:33.820 points
01:25:34.420 lower than
01:25:35.340 whites
01:25:35.680 who are
01:25:36.140 admitted
01:25:36.440 about
01:25:36.840 30
01:25:37.280 to 50
01:25:37.760 points
01:25:38.200 lower
01:25:38.480 than
01:25:38.700 Asian
01:25:39.040 Americans
01:25:39.580 so
01:25:40.360 we all
01:25:40.860 know
01:25:41.100 that
01:25:41.480 and
01:25:42.120 that's
01:25:42.520 not
01:25:42.680 the end
01:25:43.120 of it
01:25:43.460 Michelle
01:25:43.840 when you
01:25:44.540 have a
01:25:45.180 university
01:25:45.760 whether it's
01:25:46.680 legacy
01:25:47.080 or athletes
01:25:48.000 but
01:25:48.680 much more
01:25:49.760 numbers
01:25:50.220 of DEI
01:25:50.940 then you
01:25:51.340 that's
01:25:51.700 the beginning
01:25:52.560 of it
01:25:52.980 so then
01:25:53.560 the faculty
01:25:54.140 who are all
01:25:54.700 left say
01:25:55.260 if you talk
01:25:56.020 to them
01:25:56.280 off the record
01:25:57.000 and I used
01:25:58.340 to all the
01:25:58.880 time
01:25:59.120 as a faculty
01:25:59.960 member
01:26:00.340 well we only
01:26:01.300 have three
01:26:01.720 choices
01:26:02.180 we either
01:26:02.960 have to lower
01:26:03.560 the amount
01:26:03.960 of work
01:26:04.480 required
01:26:05.340 because we
01:26:05.780 have too
01:26:06.040 many students
01:26:06.640 that weren't
01:26:07.020 prepared
01:26:07.460 or we have
01:26:09.080 to introduce
01:26:09.540 new courses
01:26:10.440 or the
01:26:11.900 favored route
01:26:12.540 we're going
01:26:12.880 to change
01:26:13.300 our grading
01:26:13.820 so Yale
01:26:14.640 gives 80%
01:26:15.720 of A's
01:26:16.240 Stanford's
01:26:16.740 about 70%
01:26:17.680 of A's
01:26:18.200 and then
01:26:18.760 that's not
01:26:19.320 the end
01:26:20.480 of it
01:26:20.700 then you
01:26:21.040 get people
01:26:21.480 in Silicon
01:26:21.980 Valley
01:26:22.440 you meet
01:26:22.980 and they'll
01:26:23.260 say
01:26:23.560 hey Victor
01:26:24.500 you know
01:26:24.760 this is
01:26:25.160 really weird
01:26:25.860 Stanford
01:26:26.700 used to
01:26:27.080 have the
01:26:27.380 SAT
01:26:27.760 they dropped
01:26:28.300 it for
01:26:28.580 four years
01:26:29.240 and I've
01:26:31.220 noticed
01:26:31.600 that coders
01:26:32.400 are people
01:26:32.980 in computer
01:26:33.460 science
01:26:34.100 are people
01:26:34.780 in the
01:26:37.100 humanities
01:26:37.640 I would
01:26:38.300 rather hire
01:26:38.900 someone from
01:26:39.580 Southern Methodist
01:26:40.580 or Georgia Tech
01:26:41.720 or SMU
01:26:43.620 than I would
01:26:44.200 Stanford graduate
01:26:44.980 the last
01:26:45.460 anybody
01:26:46.000 the last
01:26:46.500 four years
01:26:47.120 and then you
01:26:47.880 say well why
01:26:48.680 because they
01:26:49.780 don't have
01:26:50.320 the compositional
01:26:51.160 skills
01:26:51.760 or the
01:26:52.180 training
01:26:52.600 that other
01:26:53.280 people
01:26:53.680 from these
01:26:54.540 Southern
01:26:54.820 universities
01:26:55.360 do
01:26:55.880 of all
01:26:56.700 colors
01:26:57.120 nothing to
01:26:57.580 do with
01:26:57.800 race
01:26:58.280 and more
01:26:59.040 importantly
01:26:59.480 when they
01:27:00.240 come to
01:27:00.640 workforce
01:27:01.060 they go
01:27:01.400 right to
01:27:01.780 HR
01:27:02.240 and complain
01:27:03.300 and I
01:27:03.980 would rather
01:27:04.280 have somebody
01:27:04.860 who was quiet
01:27:05.600 and qualified
01:27:06.300 rather than
01:27:07.080 somebody who
01:27:07.820 had to
01:27:08.260 complain
01:27:08.720 about me
01:27:09.860 or my
01:27:10.240 company
01:27:10.640 or working
01:27:11.140 she's still
01:27:11.980 complaining
01:27:12.720 like can you
01:27:13.780 imagine I
01:27:14.440 would have
01:27:14.760 loved to have
01:27:15.500 gotten into
01:27:15.940 Princeton
01:27:16.420 that would
01:27:16.780 have been
01:27:16.960 so amazing
01:27:17.620 I loved
01:27:18.160 Princeton
01:27:18.580 so much
01:27:19.200 we spent
01:27:19.940 some time
01:27:20.380 there just
01:27:20.680 visiting one
01:27:21.200 time
01:27:21.440 I would
01:27:22.160 have loved
01:27:22.660 to have
01:27:22.920 gotten into
01:27:23.260 Princeton
01:27:23.500 I couldn't
01:27:23.880 get into
01:27:24.180 Princeton
01:27:24.600 because my
01:27:25.100 grades weren't
01:27:25.620 good enough
01:27:25.960 and my
01:27:26.280 SATs
01:27:26.780 weren't
01:27:27.000 good enough
01:27:27.380 and nobody
01:27:28.120 was doing
01:27:28.460 affirmative
01:27:28.820 action for
01:27:29.480 white girls
01:27:30.020 from upstate
01:27:30.600 New York
01:27:31.000 if I had
01:27:32.540 been given
01:27:32.880 that opportunity
01:27:33.460 I would be
01:27:34.040 grateful to
01:27:34.580 this day
01:27:35.120 grateful to
01:27:36.220 this day
01:27:36.600 she's still
01:27:37.500 bitter
01:27:37.840 she's talking
01:27:38.740 about how
01:27:39.180 people looked
01:27:39.820 at her
01:27:40.100 and said
01:27:40.380 because of
01:27:40.820 her skin
01:27:41.240 color
01:27:41.520 she didn't
01:27:42.000 belong
01:27:42.420 I don't
01:27:43.080 believe that
01:27:43.640 I don't
01:27:44.200 believe that
01:27:44.480 for one
01:27:44.740 second
01:27:44.880 they looked
01:27:45.280 at her
01:27:45.500 and said
01:27:45.720 because of
01:27:46.100 your skin
01:27:46.420 color
01:27:46.700 we'll let
01:27:47.400 you right
01:27:47.800 in
01:27:48.020 here's the
01:27:48.580 door
01:27:49.200 it's wide
01:27:49.720 open
01:27:50.000 come on
01:27:50.500 in
01:27:50.680 but she's
01:27:51.360 got to
01:27:51.620 twist it
01:27:52.300 I can tell
01:27:53.740 you that
01:27:54.120 because
01:27:54.620 for 21
01:27:55.860 years I'd
01:27:56.400 have
01:27:56.560 graduates
01:27:57.040 in
01:27:57.280 classics
01:27:57.660 from
01:27:58.380 not a
01:27:59.380 competitive
01:27:59.780 school
01:28:00.240 a California
01:28:00.740 State
01:28:01.060 University
01:28:01.540 school
01:28:02.020 and they
01:28:02.800 wanted to
01:28:03.180 go to
01:28:03.380 the Ivy
01:28:03.760 League
01:28:04.100 so they
01:28:04.540 had to
01:28:04.840 have a
01:28:05.340 greater
01:28:05.620 degree
01:28:06.180 and
01:28:06.360 master's
01:28:07.020 degree
01:28:07.280 in
01:28:07.520 classics
01:28:07.940 and more
01:28:08.800 importantly
01:28:09.200 when I
01:28:09.520 would
01:28:09.680 they would
01:28:10.520 apply to
01:28:10.920 graduate
01:28:11.260 school
01:28:11.740 most of
01:28:13.540 my students
01:28:14.000 were minorities
01:28:14.640 but I
01:28:14.920 had three
01:28:15.200 or four
01:28:15.480 white males
01:28:16.100 and I'd
01:28:16.420 always say
01:28:16.840 to them
01:28:17.160 you have
01:28:18.000 to have
01:28:18.200 a perfect
01:28:18.640 SAT
01:28:19.100 you have
01:28:20.280 to have
01:28:20.480 a perfect
01:28:20.900 SAT
01:28:21.380 and you're
01:28:22.820 going to
01:28:23.200 have to
01:28:23.540 have a
01:28:24.780 perfect
01:28:25.160 grade
01:28:25.660 and you're
01:28:26.060 still not
01:28:26.420 going to
01:28:26.620 get in
01:28:27.000 unless we
01:28:27.640 and then
01:28:29.100 I would
01:28:29.480 get a
01:28:29.700 this is a
01:28:30.180 true story
01:28:30.620 a guy
01:28:30.860 called me
01:28:31.280 up and
01:28:31.600 said
01:28:31.840 we let
01:28:34.500 in one
01:28:34.860 of your
01:28:35.120 students
01:28:35.480 he was
01:28:35.720 brilliant
01:28:36.200 Latino
01:28:36.660 student
01:28:37.160 I
01:28:37.480 tutored
01:28:37.780 him
01:28:37.960 and he
01:28:38.240 called up
01:28:38.720 and said
01:28:39.180 I find
01:28:40.560 out
01:28:40.860 is it
01:28:41.220 true
01:28:41.440 that he
01:28:41.720 is not
01:28:42.280 legal
01:28:43.060 and I
01:28:44.120 said
01:28:44.340 I don't
01:28:44.780 know
01:28:45.080 so I
01:28:45.580 asked him
01:28:46.000 and he
01:28:46.180 said
01:28:46.360 no I'm
01:28:46.740 illegal
01:28:47.040 I didn't
01:28:47.460 know it
01:28:47.880 and then
01:28:48.980 I called
01:28:49.340 back
01:28:49.580 and they
01:28:49.960 said
01:28:50.240 no he's
01:28:50.840 not
01:28:51.020 illegal
01:28:51.340 they were
01:28:51.720 not
01:28:51.960 calling
01:28:52.320 me
01:28:52.660 because
01:28:53.280 they were
01:28:53.620 worried
01:28:54.020 they were
01:28:54.520 hoping
01:28:54.960 that he
01:28:55.300 was
01:28:55.440 illegal
01:28:55.800 and I
01:28:56.220 said
01:28:56.540 that
01:28:56.800 they
01:28:57.240 said
01:28:57.520 oh my
01:28:57.960 gosh
01:28:58.300 this is
01:28:58.680 great
01:28:58.920 we have
01:28:59.180 an
01:28:59.320 illegal
01:28:59.740 alien
01:29:00.220 who's
01:29:00.580 going
01:29:00.780 to be
01:29:01.000 a
01:29:01.120 classic
01:29:01.500 PhD
01:29:01.980 I
01:29:02.420 said
01:29:02.620 yes
01:29:02.980 and
01:29:03.680 so
01:29:04.100 and I
01:29:04.560 had
01:29:04.760 African
01:29:05.180 American
01:29:05.580 students
01:29:06.140 I
01:29:06.380 African
01:29:06.880 American
01:29:07.240 students
01:29:08.140 that were
01:29:08.620 as good
01:29:09.100 or no
01:29:10.260 better
01:29:10.520 no worse
01:29:11.100 than white
01:29:11.540 male
01:29:11.760 students
01:29:12.160 and I
01:29:13.260 would get
01:29:13.540 all the
01:29:13.860 people in
01:29:14.220 the room
01:29:14.520 and I'd
01:29:14.860 say
01:29:15.100 these
01:29:15.420 I get
01:29:15.980 four or
01:29:16.340 five
01:29:16.540 who were
01:29:16.740 applying
01:29:17.080 and I'd
01:29:17.480 say
01:29:17.720 this person
01:29:19.200 is African
01:29:19.780 American
01:29:20.260 she's
01:29:20.760 going to
01:29:21.180 be
01:29:21.520 admitted
01:29:21.920 to
01:29:22.320 Princeton
01:29:22.800 Yale
01:29:23.200 and you're
01:29:23.600 not
01:29:23.900 it's
01:29:24.100 just a
01:29:24.420 fact
01:29:24.860 unless
01:29:25.920 you can
01:29:26.440 tell me
01:29:26.840 and then
01:29:27.760 to hear
01:29:28.360 from the
01:29:28.720 administration
01:29:29.320 or the
01:29:29.720 faculty
01:29:30.080 that wasn't
01:29:30.700 true
01:29:31.020 when they
01:29:31.700 knew it
01:29:32.120 was true
01:29:32.640 and that's
01:29:33.480 what's so
01:29:33.820 bad about
01:29:34.380 it
01:29:34.520 they lie
01:29:36.380 and then
01:29:36.960 finally
01:29:37.340 even their
01:29:37.940 own
01:29:38.120 standards
01:29:38.540 so what
01:29:38.920 happens
01:29:39.360 Yale
01:29:39.900 Stanford
01:29:40.520 last year
01:29:41.340 reinstitute
01:29:42.080 very quietly
01:29:43.140 very loudly
01:29:44.200 they got
01:29:44.620 rid of
01:29:44.960 the SAT
01:29:45.480 and now
01:29:46.700 very quietly
01:29:47.560 they're letting
01:29:48.220 it in
01:29:48.680 and the
01:29:49.300 reason
01:29:49.620 because people
01:29:50.280 were not
01:29:50.660 succeeding
01:29:51.120 they were
01:29:52.360 two standard
01:29:53.220 deviations
01:29:53.860 below the
01:29:54.300 average SAT
01:29:54.960 score of the
01:29:55.480 other students
01:29:56.060 and they
01:29:56.440 were failing
01:29:57.000 wait I've
01:29:57.820 got to get
01:29:58.120 to one
01:29:58.400 other
01:29:58.580 because
01:29:58.960 she went
01:30:00.040 on
01:30:00.400 her
01:30:01.460 bitterness
01:30:01.800 does not
01:30:02.340 stop
01:30:02.780 with the
01:30:03.840 fact that
01:30:04.320 she got
01:30:04.720 into
01:30:04.980 Princeton
01:30:05.440 in her
01:30:07.100 imagination
01:30:08.040 someone
01:30:08.660 begrudged
01:30:09.320 her
01:30:09.580 the spot
01:30:10.160 or didn't
01:30:10.500 think she
01:30:10.820 belonged
01:30:11.160 there
01:30:11.400 P.S.
01:30:11.800 you didn't
01:30:12.380 I didn't
01:30:12.960 belong there
01:30:13.340 either
01:30:13.540 I don't
01:30:14.340 think it's
01:30:14.980 because I'm
01:30:15.380 a woman
01:30:15.720 I didn't
01:30:16.800 score high
01:30:17.400 enough
01:30:17.660 that's why
01:30:18.040 I didn't
01:30:18.260 belong
01:30:18.500 there
01:30:18.760 in any
01:30:19.780 event
01:30:19.980 she's
01:30:20.940 also
01:30:21.320 as we
01:30:21.820 know
01:30:22.100 still
01:30:22.720 very
01:30:23.600 bitter
01:30:23.880 about
01:30:24.360 the
01:30:24.580 country
01:30:24.980 and her
01:30:25.860 time
01:30:26.120 in the
01:30:26.320 White
01:30:26.480 House
01:30:26.760 and you
01:30:27.580 would
01:30:27.720 think
01:30:28.020 I mean
01:30:28.280 if you're
01:30:28.500 Michelle
01:30:28.740 Obama
01:30:29.080 you're
01:30:29.420 universally
01:30:29.920 beloved
01:30:30.360 you know
01:30:31.220 you call
01:30:31.820 your book
01:30:32.220 becoming
01:30:32.860 you're on
01:30:33.440 the cover
01:30:35.440 coming
01:30:35.680 I'm so
01:30:36.020 beautiful
01:30:36.360 everybody
01:30:36.700 wants to
01:30:37.080 be with
01:30:37.300 me
01:30:37.460 she talks
01:30:38.160 about how
01:30:38.420 people line
01:30:38.980 up to see
01:30:39.560 her at
01:30:40.300 these public
01:30:40.680 events
01:30:41.060 how wherever
01:30:41.760 she goes
01:30:42.080 out to
01:30:42.340 eat
01:30:42.560 everyone's
01:30:43.000 staring at
01:30:43.500 her and
01:30:43.780 Barack
01:30:44.120 they're the
01:30:44.840 topic of
01:30:45.220 conversation
01:30:45.720 at every
01:30:46.260 restaurant
01:30:46.580 they go
01:30:46.980 to
01:30:47.240 it's so
01:30:48.440 difficult
01:30:48.780 to be
01:30:49.020 Michelle
01:30:49.400 because
01:30:50.020 you're
01:30:50.180 just so
01:30:50.580 super
01:30:50.820 famous
01:30:51.140 and everyone
01:30:51.680 loves you
01:30:52.160 and you
01:30:52.900 would think
01:30:53.280 after being
01:30:53.800 first lady
01:30:54.320 for eight
01:30:54.800 years
01:30:55.020 you would
01:30:55.240 say
01:30:55.500 I'm just
01:30:56.380 so damn
01:30:56.960 lucky to
01:30:57.540 have been
01:30:57.780 born in
01:30:58.080 the United
01:30:58.320 States of
01:30:58.720 America
01:30:59.040 where I
01:30:59.600 could go
01:30:59.860 from living
01:31:00.360 growing up
01:31:01.120 in relative
01:31:01.520 poverty
01:31:02.040 and sharing
01:31:02.780 a room
01:31:03.060 with my
01:31:03.340 brother
01:31:03.640 on the
01:31:05.100 south side
01:31:05.460 of Chicago
01:31:05.860 and could
01:31:06.380 go up to
01:31:06.840 become the
01:31:07.260 first lady
01:31:07.740 of the
01:31:07.900 United States
01:31:08.440 and married
01:31:08.860 to the
01:31:09.280 center of
01:31:09.940 power
01:31:10.260 and living
01:31:10.560 in the
01:31:10.760 White House
01:31:10.960 like I
01:31:11.840 love this
01:31:12.260 country
01:31:12.480 I'm so
01:31:12.880 grateful
01:31:13.180 for what
01:31:13.740 it's
01:31:13.860 given me
01:31:14.400 and given
01:31:14.760 my
01:31:14.940 daughters
01:31:15.440 no
01:31:17.020 this is
01:31:17.720 how she
01:31:18.320 sounded
01:31:18.680 on that
01:31:19.260 same
01:31:19.500 podcast
01:31:19.900 the
01:31:20.100 Lewis
01:31:20.320 Howes
01:31:20.640 show
01:31:21.100 South
01:31:21.740 30
01:31:21.980 the
01:31:23.380 White House
01:31:23.980 is just
01:31:24.600 another
01:31:25.080 Princeton
01:31:25.600 right
01:31:26.120 really
01:31:26.680 and the
01:31:27.040 experience
01:31:27.620 was just
01:31:28.160 the same
01:31:28.620 you have
01:31:29.040 a lot
01:31:29.440 of people
01:31:29.800 saying
01:31:30.200 that there's
01:31:30.620 no way
01:31:31.140 that this
01:31:31.520 black
01:31:31.840 couple
01:31:32.320 is capable
01:31:33.860 of
01:31:34.680 representing
01:31:35.420 our
01:31:35.840 country
01:31:36.320 you know
01:31:37.220 they
01:31:37.700 they are
01:31:38.200 not
01:31:38.460 patriotic
01:31:39.260 look at
01:31:39.760 their fist
01:31:40.220 bump
01:31:40.580 you know
01:31:41.820 did
01:31:42.320 did she
01:31:42.840 really
01:31:43.240 get into
01:31:43.700 Princeton
01:31:44.100 is he
01:31:44.700 really
01:31:45.040 from
01:31:45.340 this
01:31:45.580 country
01:31:46.040 you know
01:31:46.700 did he
01:31:47.480 really
01:31:47.900 go to
01:31:48.360 Harvard
01:31:48.740 is his
01:31:49.540 you know
01:31:50.020 it's the
01:31:50.640 it's the
01:31:51.340 same
01:31:51.600 kind
01:31:51.920 of
01:31:52.060 let
01:31:52.460 because
01:31:53.040 we
01:31:53.400 can't
01:31:53.880 see
01:31:54.040 past
01:31:54.420 our
01:31:54.680 own
01:31:54.940 prejudice
01:31:55.400 let's
01:31:56.740 question
01:31:57.540 because
01:31:58.480 we were
01:31:58.940 told
01:31:59.380 that there
01:31:59.820 is an
01:32:00.120 order
01:32:00.520 and that
01:32:01.360 you don't
01:32:01.780 belong
01:32:02.120 at the
01:32:02.420 top
01:32:02.860 you know
01:32:03.880 and what
01:32:04.360 I soon
01:32:04.820 realized
01:32:05.400 is that's
01:32:06.000 not about
01:32:06.540 me
01:32:07.040 that's
01:32:07.780 about
01:32:08.080 them
01:32:08.720 them
01:32:10.500 okay
01:32:10.820 them
01:32:11.300 who
01:32:11.820 said
01:32:12.740 that
01:32:13.080 honestly
01:32:13.780 Victor
01:32:14.060 the
01:32:14.240 nobody
01:32:15.220 said
01:32:15.600 questioning
01:32:16.180 whether
01:32:16.460 we're
01:32:16.660 patriotic
01:32:17.180 she
01:32:17.800 literally
01:32:18.180 said
01:32:18.480 for the
01:32:18.740 first
01:32:18.900 time
01:32:19.220 I
01:32:19.880 was
01:32:20.040 proud
01:32:20.260 of
01:32:20.340 my
01:32:20.460 country
01:32:20.680 first
01:32:21.020 time
01:32:21.220 in my
01:32:21.460 adult
01:32:21.720 life
01:32:22.040 when
01:32:22.500 they
01:32:22.620 nominated
01:32:23.000 Barack
01:32:23.300 Obama
01:32:23.580 I
01:32:23.780 was
01:32:23.920 proud
01:32:24.100 of
01:32:24.180 my
01:32:24.320 country
01:32:24.640 she'd
01:32:24.920 never
01:32:25.220 been
01:32:25.420 proud
01:32:25.760 of
01:32:25.860 her
01:32:25.940 country
01:32:26.160 before
01:32:26.520 she said
01:32:27.080 it was a downright
01:32:27.860 she said
01:32:31.060 during the
01:32:31.720 2008
01:32:32.480 until David Axelrod
01:32:34.160 said you're going to be quiet
01:32:35.220 you may not like it
01:32:36.400 but you're not allowed to say anymore
01:32:38.260 because she said
01:32:39.140 I'd never been proud of my country
01:32:41.040 she said it was a downright mean country
01:32:43.140 she said they always raise the bar on us
01:32:45.680 every time we try to do something
01:32:47.140 they raise the bar on us
01:32:48.380 then finally
01:32:48.880 they put her on ice
01:32:50.920 they said
01:32:51.360 you're not capable of making a public statement
01:32:55.260 without offending people
01:32:56.480 and by the way
01:32:57.660 in 2008
01:32:59.180 Barack Obama got more white votes
01:33:02.080 than John Kerry did in 2004
01:33:04.520 and he was elected primarily by white people
01:33:08.640 who voted for him
01:33:10.260 and a small minority
01:33:11.940 maybe a large minority
01:33:12.960 did it because they thought
01:33:14.160 even though he was too liberal for their tastes
01:33:17.500 some Republicans
01:33:18.760 and they thought it would be good
01:33:20.140 to have an African American
01:33:22.040 the only thing
01:33:22.840 that people
01:33:23.720 roundly criticized
01:33:25.780 Barack Obama for
01:33:27.000 that he didn't earn
01:33:28.180 was a Nobel Prize
01:33:29.680 and he joked about it
01:33:31.020 he knew he didn't earn that
01:33:32.420 and he knew that
01:33:33.400 if he had been a white male president
01:33:35.580 he wouldn't have got it
01:33:36.680 just like Donald Trump
01:33:37.640 who did 20,000 times
01:33:39.300 more things to earn it
01:33:40.900 than Barack Obama did
01:33:42.620 probably will not get it
01:33:44.020 so they know that
01:33:45.220 and so the only way
01:33:46.640 that they can square that circle
01:33:48.280 of their privilege
01:33:49.260 and prejudice
01:33:50.600 and bias
01:33:51.220 in their direction
01:33:52.300 is to completely
01:33:53.960 play this victim game
01:33:55.840 and it's getting
01:33:57.040 it's getting really pathetic
01:33:59.380 and
01:34:00.000 I don't know what
01:34:01.700 I don't think
01:34:02.800 it's never going to end
01:34:04.380 until people who are them
01:34:06.640 whoever she considers them
01:34:08.860 say you know what
01:34:10.220 I know that our system
01:34:12.280 is fair and meritocratic
01:34:13.440 you can call me a racist
01:34:14.600 it has zero effect on me
01:34:16.760 I'm sorry
01:34:17.240 but I can say
01:34:17.880 one other thing about it though
01:34:19.060 she doesn't seem to understand
01:34:20.960 that everyone
01:34:22.860 who accomplishes anything
01:34:25.300 has detractors
01:34:27.100 has people who are not
01:34:28.620 rooting for them
01:34:29.360 it's called
01:34:30.320 human nature
01:34:32.260 okay
01:34:33.180 it's not
01:34:33.900 a racism thing
01:34:35.620 it's human nature
01:34:37.440 for some people
01:34:38.860 to watch other people's
01:34:40.340 people ascend
01:34:41.300 and feel envious
01:34:42.600 and try to take them down
01:34:44.320 but she's got to take
01:34:45.940 those few naysayers
01:34:47.560 and I'm sure
01:34:48.080 there was somebody
01:34:48.840 who made a racist comment
01:34:50.000 here or there
01:34:50.340 as they were running
01:34:51.180 and elevate them
01:34:53.040 to the ones
01:34:53.920 she remembers
01:34:54.720 she's on this national podcast
01:34:56.180 she's asked to talk about
01:34:57.640 her time as first lady
01:34:58.980 and her feelings around it
01:35:01.140 and that's where she goes
01:35:02.900 it's like
01:35:03.820 she doesn't go to
01:35:04.880 so blessed
01:35:06.140 the number of people I met
01:35:07.720 the experiences I had
01:35:09.300 my world was lit up
01:35:11.160 the amount of intellectual riches
01:35:13.660 that I took in
01:35:14.540 no
01:35:15.300 it's
01:35:16.000 people said we weren't patriotic
01:35:18.020 that there's a social order
01:35:19.740 and you're not supposed to be
01:35:20.760 at the top of it
01:35:21.460 we put her in the White House
01:35:23.600 we made her husband president
01:35:25.700 for eight years
01:35:27.260 it's still not good enough
01:35:29.340 the country
01:35:30.060 somebody said something negative about me
01:35:31.920 and it had to be because of my skin color
01:35:33.800 and I'm still bitter
01:35:35.500 how many years later now
01:35:37.640 like get over it
01:35:39.820 try to look on the bright side of life
01:35:41.940 there's so many different characteristics
01:35:44.720 that we all have
01:35:45.880 that can hurt or help us
01:35:48.500 what is
01:35:49.360 I think
01:35:50.240 it would be a lot easier
01:35:51.800 to be Michelle Obama
01:35:53.600 than Governor Abbott
01:35:54.640 in a wheelchair
01:35:55.260 what he had to overcome
01:35:56.540 or her middle class existence
01:35:59.160 in Chicago
01:36:00.000 was a lot
01:36:01.480 more conducive
01:36:03.360 for her success
01:36:04.180 than J.D. Vance's
01:36:05.340 was with a dysfunctional
01:36:06.620 drug ridden family
01:36:07.640 in Appalachia
01:36:08.540 you got that right
01:36:09.000 so everybody comes to the table
01:36:11.640 with individual debits
01:36:13.940 and pluses
01:36:14.880 but
01:36:15.240 once you do this
01:36:17.000 this race thing
01:36:18.500 and you think
01:36:19.700 it supersedes
01:36:20.480 every other consideration
01:36:21.680 of individuality
01:36:22.820 and your
01:36:23.500 race
01:36:24.540 is essential
01:36:25.460 rather than incidental
01:36:26.560 to who you are
01:36:27.340 to your persona
01:36:28.160 then it's never
01:36:29.680 it's not going to work out
01:36:31.040 and you can see
01:36:31.720 it puts enormous pressure
01:36:32.840 on people
01:36:33.480 you took it
01:36:35.140 if an immigrant
01:36:36.420 part of our problem
01:36:37.280 with immigration
01:36:38.240 is that we have
01:36:39.440 no civic education
01:36:40.720 assimilation
01:36:41.440 acculturation
01:36:42.240 and no appreciation
01:36:43.420 so you get
01:36:44.080 Ilian Omar
01:36:44.820 coming here
01:36:45.640 and she blasts
01:36:47.060 this country
01:36:47.600 as garbage
01:36:48.260 and it has dictators
01:36:50.340 it's racist
01:36:51.260 or you have
01:36:51.960 second generation AOC
01:36:53.320 or you
01:36:54.820 you have Mondami
01:36:56.680 and immediately
01:36:58.480 their parents
01:36:59.780 or they come here
01:37:00.760 and they're faced
01:37:01.860 with a choice
01:37:02.720 if you play
01:37:03.840 the race
01:37:04.660 victim card
01:37:05.820 this is one trajectory
01:37:07.580 if you don't
01:37:08.900 and you say
01:37:09.460 you're really happy
01:37:10.380 to be in this
01:37:11.140 safe
01:37:11.680 prosperous
01:37:12.280 secure country
01:37:13.320 and that's why
01:37:14.340 my parents
01:37:15.020 left Puerto Rico
01:37:16.140 or Uganda
01:37:17.320 or Somalia
01:37:18.560 and I was so lucky
01:37:19.900 to get where I am
01:37:21.400 because of these
01:37:22.040 opportunities
01:37:22.500 then it's not
01:37:23.320 that trajectory
01:37:24.260 is going to be
01:37:25.240 a lot more difficult
01:37:26.100 and so
01:37:26.880 our society
01:37:28.360 because we've got
01:37:29.460 so pathological
01:37:30.520 makes these choices
01:37:31.880 offers these choices
01:37:33.120 and most people
01:37:33.900 take the easy way out
01:37:35.220 all you have to do
01:37:36.500 is say that you were
01:37:37.340 a victim
01:37:37.760 your parents were
01:37:38.900 a victim
01:37:39.260 your color
01:37:39.960 your religion
01:37:40.720 it's oppressive
01:37:41.760 and that
01:37:42.600 that gives dividends
01:37:44.500 and it will continue
01:37:45.500 to give dividends
01:37:46.520 until people say
01:37:48.060 I'm bored
01:37:48.760 I've heard it
01:37:49.800 so many times
01:37:50.700 grow up
01:37:51.740 and be an adult
01:37:52.640 quit blaming everybody
01:37:54.220 for your own
01:37:55.160 inferiority
01:37:56.220 complex
01:37:56.800 or your own
01:37:57.720 perception
01:37:58.740 of
01:37:59.160 unfulfilled life
01:38:00.780 it's not my fault
01:38:01.640 it's yours
01:38:02.280 when she says
01:38:03.220 I thought it was
01:38:04.260 them
01:38:04.660 and not you
01:38:05.080 no Michelle
01:38:05.740 it's you
01:38:06.540 it's not them
01:38:07.680 not some
01:38:08.280 abstract them
01:38:09.560 you were the most
01:38:11.060 on the great
01:38:12.820 sense of thing
01:38:13.940 you grew up
01:38:14.620 in a very stable
01:38:15.740 advantageous family
01:38:18.140 and you
01:38:19.120 excelled
01:38:20.100 and the society
01:38:20.900 at large
01:38:21.500 said we had been
01:38:22.320 unfair to
01:38:23.160 African Americans
01:38:24.140 so to the third
01:38:26.020 or fourth generation
01:38:27.100 from Jim Crow
01:38:28.040 is that we're
01:38:28.660 going to continue
01:38:29.480 to offer advantages
01:38:31.060 for those who
01:38:31.800 want to take it
01:38:32.540 you took it
01:38:33.300 all more power
01:38:34.640 to you
01:38:35.160 but don't turn
01:38:36.880 around and tell
01:38:37.660 the society
01:38:38.500 that they oppressed
01:38:39.900 you or you're
01:38:40.480 victimized
01:38:41.160 when you're a
01:38:41.660 multi
01:38:41.920 four houses
01:38:43.120 Martha Vineyard
01:38:44.080 you know
01:38:44.840 Barack Obama
01:38:46.660 every time he
01:38:47.360 flies out
01:38:48.160 he berates
01:38:49.920 African American
01:38:50.880 staffers
01:38:51.540 in the
01:38:51.840 Harris campaign
01:38:53.060 as false
01:38:54.160 consciousness
01:38:54.800 well you don't
01:38:55.780 really know
01:38:56.600 as I do
01:38:57.840 to tell you
01:38:59.000 how you're
01:38:59.740 oppressed
01:39:00.120 and you don't
01:39:01.360 really appreciate
01:39:02.420 Kamala Harris
01:39:03.700 and he just did it
01:39:04.340 the other day
01:39:04.760 in an interview
01:39:05.180 Hispanic men
01:39:06.560 voted for Trump
01:39:08.180 on inflation
01:39:09.180 and gas
01:39:09.760 and they don't
01:39:10.260 really understand
01:39:11.120 and what he's
01:39:12.200 trying to say
01:39:12.800 is they don't
01:39:13.420 really feel
01:39:14.120 like they're
01:39:14.500 victims
01:39:14.980 and they're
01:39:15.680 voting on
01:39:16.460 criteria that
01:39:17.280 aren't race
01:39:17.760 based
01:39:18.180 and in the
01:39:19.060 Marxist fashion
01:39:19.880 I have to tell
01:39:20.580 them they're
01:39:20.960 deluded
01:39:21.380 and they have
01:39:21.840 false
01:39:22.140 consciousness
01:39:22.660 and correct
01:39:23.680 their incorrect
01:39:24.300 thinking
01:39:24.840 so arrogant
01:39:25.920 too
01:39:26.300 it's elitist
01:39:26.880 she's an elite
01:39:27.460 so is he
01:39:28.160 she's a total
01:39:29.280 elitist
01:39:29.700 to me I feel
01:39:30.360 like okay
01:39:30.680 Michelle
01:39:31.100 we can do
01:39:32.200 the destitution
01:39:32.720 derby
01:39:34.000 you know
01:39:34.460 you had an
01:39:35.600 intact family
01:39:36.220 for the first
01:39:36.720 27 years
01:39:37.400 of your life
01:39:37.880 your dad
01:39:38.540 died when
01:39:38.900 you were
01:39:39.080 27
01:39:39.560 which is
01:39:39.920 too soon
01:39:40.360 but you know
01:39:41.020 what
01:39:41.180 some of us
01:39:41.780 lost our
01:39:42.120 dad at a
01:39:42.600 much younger
01:39:43.420 more tender
01:39:44.120 age
01:39:44.620 and we don't
01:39:45.520 run around
01:39:45.940 because of it
01:39:46.520 thinking the
01:39:46.940 world owes us
01:39:47.720 something
01:39:48.080 or that we're
01:39:49.880 entitled to
01:39:50.460 something
01:39:50.740 everybody should
01:39:51.300 recognize
01:39:51.880 our hardship
01:39:52.820 and give us
01:39:53.580 a leg up
01:39:54.180 and make that
01:39:55.500 one negative
01:39:56.220 experience
01:39:56.980 become our
01:39:57.860 defining existence
01:39:59.240 the defining
01:40:00.700 characteristic
01:40:01.320 about us
01:40:02.000 the one
01:40:02.640 terrible
01:40:03.080 really sad
01:40:03.820 awful thing
01:40:04.340 that happened
01:40:04.700 to us
01:40:05.020 it could be
01:40:05.440 an incident
01:40:05.800 of racism
01:40:06.380 it could be
01:40:07.000 the loss
01:40:07.300 of a father
01:40:07.840 she doesn't
01:40:09.060 get it
01:40:09.340 she has no
01:40:09.740 tolerance for that
01:40:10.520 coming from
01:40:11.340 somebody else
01:40:11.840 it has to be
01:40:12.560 one thing
01:40:13.380 racism
01:40:14.080 and no matter
01:40:14.640 how many
01:40:15.080 advantages
01:40:15.460 she gets
01:40:15.900 houses in
01:40:16.640 Martha's Vineyard
01:40:17.380 and Chicago
01:40:18.220 and Hawaii
01:40:19.280 and I think
01:40:19.940 I'm missing
01:40:20.300 one
01:40:20.660 Washington D.C.
01:40:22.080 doesn't matter
01:40:22.760 girls at the
01:40:23.760 best universities
01:40:24.640 right
01:40:25.300 the husband
01:40:26.160 president
01:40:26.580 for two terms
01:40:27.240 doesn't matter
01:40:27.920 still a victim
01:40:28.700 still angry
01:40:29.660 still a racist
01:40:30.500 country
01:40:30.920 I'm sick of it
01:40:32.200 let's be honest
01:40:33.800 America can still
01:40:35.000 be a dangerous
01:40:35.660 place
01:40:36.120 and you cannot
01:40:36.880 afford to wait
01:40:37.520 for help
01:40:37.960 sure you could
01:40:38.840 use a firearm
01:40:39.540 but in today's
01:40:40.480 America
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01:40:42.840 force
01:40:43.260 could have
01:40:43.940 legal consequences
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01:40:48.420 altercations
01:40:49.240 do not
01:40:50.000 require lethal
01:40:50.700 force
01:40:51.100 and that's
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01:44:59.240 Victor Davis
01:45:00.160 Hanson
01:45:00.680 and we've
01:45:01.480 got some
01:45:02.360 very interesting
01:45:03.020 things to
01:45:03.500 discuss
01:45:03.960 including
01:45:06.140 UFOs
01:45:07.040 now
01:45:07.740 let me start
01:45:08.720 by saying
01:45:09.080 this
01:45:09.380 our pal
01:45:09.900 Walter
01:45:10.320 Kern
01:45:10.700 put out
01:45:11.580 a tweet
01:45:11.960 this morning
01:45:12.620 promising
01:45:13.620 some
01:45:14.580 really bizarre
01:45:15.620 things
01:45:15.960 were going
01:45:16.180 to start
01:45:16.460 happening
01:45:16.800 and one
01:45:17.760 of them
01:45:18.000 already
01:45:18.340 happened
01:45:18.740 and I'm
01:45:19.680 going to
01:45:19.880 show it
01:45:20.180 to you
01:45:20.360 we have
01:45:20.640 it on
01:45:20.860 tape
01:45:21.060 and we
01:45:21.300 confirmed
01:45:21.680 with him
01:45:22.120 that this
01:45:22.420 is in
01:45:23.140 part
01:45:23.440 what he
01:45:23.740 was
01:45:23.920 talking
01:45:24.560 about
01:45:24.860 so that's
01:45:25.420 a tease
01:45:25.800 for our
01:45:26.560 second
01:45:26.900 subject
01:45:27.700 here
01:45:27.940 but
01:45:28.160 I'm
01:45:29.080 going to
01:45:29.220 kick
01:45:29.380 it off
01:45:29.740 with
01:45:30.120 this
01:45:31.020 upcoming
01:45:31.860 UFO
01:45:32.720 documentary
01:45:33.620 via the
01:45:34.900 Hollywood
01:45:35.140 reporter
01:45:35.540 and variety
01:45:36.160 it's called
01:45:37.000 The Age
01:45:37.880 of Disclosure
01:45:38.700 it's by a
01:45:39.680 filmmaker named
01:45:40.260 Dan Farah
01:45:41.420 and it
01:45:42.340 features on
01:45:43.060 the record
01:45:43.440 interviews with
01:45:44.300 34 current
01:45:45.820 and former
01:45:46.940 senior members
01:45:47.800 of the U.S.
01:45:48.940 government
01:45:49.260 military
01:45:50.200 intelligence
01:45:51.340 committee
01:45:51.700 and beyond
01:45:52.180 with direct
01:45:53.480 knowledge of
01:45:54.280 unidentified
01:45:55.160 aerial phenomena
01:45:56.660 or UAPs
01:45:58.060 which is the
01:45:58.900 new name
01:45:59.580 for UFOs
01:46:00.520 I guess it's
01:46:01.940 more
01:46:02.260 inclusive
01:46:03.520 the film
01:46:05.000 contends
01:46:05.540 that there
01:46:06.300 has been
01:46:06.640 an 80
01:46:07.200 year
01:46:07.500 cover-up
01:46:08.100 of the
01:46:08.460 existence
01:46:08.860 of
01:46:09.360 non-human
01:46:10.360 intelligent
01:46:11.020 life
01:46:11.520 and a
01:46:12.440 secret
01:46:12.840 war
01:46:13.580 among
01:46:14.480 major
01:46:15.140 nations
01:46:15.760 to
01:46:16.380 reverse
01:46:16.880 engineer
01:46:17.680 UFO
01:46:19.100 technology
01:46:20.200 some of
01:46:21.320 those
01:46:21.480 interviewed
01:46:21.760 include
01:46:22.140 Senator
01:46:22.540 well
01:46:23.260 now
01:46:23.460 Secretary
01:46:23.960 of State
01:46:24.340 Marco
01:46:24.640 Rubio
01:46:25.100 New York
01:46:25.440 Senator
01:46:25.720 Kirsten
01:46:26.200 Gillibrand
01:46:26.660 and many
01:46:27.740 others
01:46:28.080 including
01:46:28.400 some like
01:46:29.000 Lou
01:46:29.180 Elizondo
01:46:29.660 who's
01:46:29.920 been on
01:46:30.200 the show
01:46:30.500 talking about
01:46:31.180 UAPs
01:46:32.180 in the
01:46:33.000 past
01:46:33.440 there is
01:46:34.480 a documentary
01:46:35.060 that is
01:46:35.620 out
01:46:36.000 it just
01:46:37.120 hit
01:46:37.320 yesterday
01:46:37.840 sorry
01:46:38.440 there's a
01:46:38.760 trailer
01:46:39.000 for the
01:46:39.260 documentary
01:46:39.660 and here's
01:46:40.440 the trailer
01:46:40.800 we've had
01:46:42.880 repeated
01:46:43.300 instances
01:46:43.900 of something
01:46:44.880 operating
01:46:45.420 in the
01:46:45.720 airspace
01:46:46.260 over
01:46:46.700 restricted
01:46:47.260 nuclear
01:46:48.040 facilities
01:46:48.540 and it's
01:46:49.400 not ours
01:46:49.960 these are
01:46:50.540 otherworldly
01:46:51.260 things that
01:46:51.740 are performing
01:46:52.280 maneuvers
01:46:52.860 that have
01:46:54.020 haven't been
01:46:54.660 seen
01:46:54.980 I have
01:46:59.520 seen
01:46:59.780 with my
01:47:00.080 own eyes
01:47:00.620 non-human
01:47:01.300 craft
01:47:01.760 and non-human
01:47:02.540 beings
01:47:03.080 this is
01:47:06.980 so secret
01:47:07.940 there have
01:47:08.420 been very
01:47:08.920 few people
01:47:09.500 in our
01:47:09.820 entire
01:47:10.140 government
01:47:10.580 that have
01:47:11.000 been
01:47:11.260 allowed
01:47:11.860 or provided
01:47:12.600 access
01:47:12.980 to it
01:47:13.520 even
01:47:15.000 presidents
01:47:15.580 have been
01:47:16.440 operating
01:47:17.040 on a
01:47:17.340 need-to-know
01:47:17.740 basis
01:47:18.160 but that
01:47:18.760 begins
01:47:19.040 to ramp
01:47:19.660 out of
01:47:20.000 control
01:47:20.300 it's
01:47:21.720 not
01:47:22.160 acceptable
01:47:22.780 to have
01:47:23.280 secret
01:47:23.580 parts
01:47:23.860 of government
01:47:24.300 that no
01:47:24.660 one ever
01:47:24.940 sees
01:47:25.280 people
01:47:27.400 have been
01:47:27.800 hurt
01:47:28.080 protecting
01:47:28.560 and hiding
01:47:28.940 this
01:47:29.160 information
01:47:29.640 some
01:47:30.060 people
01:47:30.320 claim
01:47:30.660 it would
01:47:30.920 cost
01:47:31.140 them
01:47:31.260 their
01:47:31.400 lives
01:47:31.800 and they
01:47:32.100 spoke
01:47:32.340 out
01:47:32.520 about
01:47:32.720 these
01:47:32.940 things
01:47:33.200 you had
01:47:34.960 information
01:47:35.680 being locked
01:47:36.420 away
01:47:36.820 that could
01:47:37.320 change
01:47:38.000 the trajectory
01:47:38.860 for species
01:47:40.020 this is
01:47:41.320 the biggest
01:47:42.160 discovery
01:47:42.840 in human
01:47:43.540 history
01:47:43.940 the biggest
01:47:47.620 discovery
01:47:48.100 in human
01:47:48.640 history
01:47:49.080 sounds like
01:47:49.780 Joe Rogan
01:47:50.280 has seen
01:47:50.740 it
01:47:50.980 he's
01:47:51.840 they
01:47:52.240 my notes
01:47:53.040 read
01:47:53.240 ever since
01:47:53.700 South by
01:47:54.120 Southwest
01:47:54.460 he's been
01:47:54.980 a vocal
01:47:55.260 supporter of
01:47:55.820 the project
01:47:56.220 gaining
01:47:56.520 distribution
01:47:57.120 amazing
01:47:58.120 documentary
01:47:58.680 I really
01:47:59.160 hope
01:47:59.400 this
01:47:59.600 gets
01:47:59.860 released
01:48:00.360 somewhere
01:48:00.760 big
01:48:01.180 very
01:48:01.920 well
01:48:02.160 done
01:48:02.360 they
01:48:02.540 think
01:48:02.760 this
01:48:02.940 documentary
01:48:03.380 is
01:48:03.660 going
01:48:03.920 to
01:48:04.120 break
01:48:04.420 the
01:48:04.620 dam
01:48:05.020 it's
01:48:05.660 pretty
01:48:05.940 intense
01:48:06.640 our
01:48:08.200 understanding
01:48:08.560 is
01:48:08.880 it's
01:48:09.400 not
01:48:10.300 going
01:48:10.420 to
01:48:10.440 be
01:48:10.540 released
01:48:10.900 until
01:48:11.160 November
01:48:11.540 21st
01:48:12.400 this
01:48:12.540 is
01:48:12.660 just
01:48:12.800 the
01:48:13.000 theater
01:48:13.600 the
01:48:13.800 trailer
01:48:14.100 that
01:48:14.600 we've
01:48:14.760 gotten
01:48:15.000 it
01:48:15.540 will
01:48:15.760 we're
01:48:15.940 told
01:48:16.100 have
01:48:16.260 a
01:48:16.380 limited
01:48:16.620 theatrical
01:48:17.080 run
01:48:17.340 in
01:48:17.460 New York
01:48:17.740 LA
01:48:18.040 Washington
01:48:18.420 DC
01:48:18.760 and
01:48:19.900 it
01:48:20.320 will
01:48:20.500 be
01:48:20.700 streaming
01:48:21.060 on
01:48:21.320 Prime
01:48:21.620 video
01:48:21.960 again
01:48:22.200 as
01:48:22.460 of
01:48:22.580 November
01:48:22.880 21
01:48:23.740 so
01:48:25.120 those
01:48:26.480 are
01:48:26.620 some
01:48:26.960 legit
01:48:27.400 people
01:48:27.880 I
01:48:28.240 mean
01:48:28.440 Marco
01:48:29.060 Rubio
01:48:29.560 is
01:48:30.120 a
01:48:30.500 truth
01:48:30.720 teller
01:48:31.200 they
01:48:32.580 seem
01:48:32.900 to
01:48:33.000 be
01:48:33.140 featuring
01:48:33.600 Anna
01:48:35.380 Paulina
01:48:41.340 that's
01:48:41.600 Anna
01:48:41.880 Paulina
01:48:42.240 Luna
01:48:42.460 forgive
01:48:42.760 me
01:48:42.920 I
01:48:43.000 just
01:48:43.160 met
01:48:43.360 her
01:48:43.460 at
01:48:43.560 the
01:48:43.640 Charlie
01:48:43.840 event
01:48:44.040 she
01:48:44.180 was
01:48:44.280 lovely
01:48:44.580 and
01:48:45.720 she's
01:48:45.960 been
01:48:46.080 speaking
01:48:46.340 out
01:48:46.560 about
01:48:46.700 this
01:48:46.820 she
01:48:46.920 went
01:48:47.060 on
01:48:47.200 Rogan
01:48:47.420 to
01:48:47.540 talk
01:48:47.700 about
01:48:47.880 this
01:48:48.040 too
01:48:48.260 and
01:48:48.440 she's
01:48:48.600 a
01:48:48.700 lawmaker
01:48:49.060 who's
01:48:49.280 had
01:48:49.420 access
01:48:49.700 to
01:48:49.880 some
01:48:50.040 records
01:48:50.380 so
01:48:51.100 what
01:48:51.460 are
01:48:51.680 we
01:48:51.900 to
01:48:52.120 make
01:48:52.360 of
01:48:52.560 this
01:48:52.760 claim
01:48:53.260 that
01:48:54.100 there's
01:48:56.320 been
01:48:56.520 an
01:48:56.760 80
01:48:57.000 year
01:48:57.240 cover
01:48:57.600 up
01:48:57.880 of
01:48:58.160 the
01:48:58.280 existence
01:48:58.680 of
01:48:59.040 non
01:48:59.440 human
01:48:59.900 intelligent
01:49:00.560 life
01:49:01.120 and
01:49:01.660 a
01:49:05.380 UFO
01:49:06.440 technology
01:49:07.160 Victor
01:49:07.540 well
01:49:09.000 you know
01:49:09.180 I
01:49:09.260 come
01:49:09.500 to
01:49:09.640 it
01:49:09.780 I
01:49:10.220 don't
01:49:10.360 think
01:49:10.500 there
01:49:10.620 would
01:49:11.140 be
01:49:11.320 a
01:49:11.460 greater
01:49:11.840 skeptic
01:49:12.400 than
01:49:12.620 myself
01:49:13.400 when
01:49:14.260 I
01:49:14.500 until
01:49:15.320 this
01:49:15.800 era
01:49:16.260 that
01:49:16.620 we're
01:49:16.760 talking
01:49:17.080 about
01:49:17.320 disclosure
01:49:18.080 when
01:49:18.760 you
01:49:18.860 look
01:49:19.060 at
01:49:19.260 antiquity
01:49:20.100 you
01:49:20.340 would
01:49:20.660 think
01:49:21.020 we
01:49:21.800 had
01:49:21.900 some
01:49:22.040 pretty
01:49:22.340 empirical
01:49:23.360 historians
01:49:24.140 from
01:49:24.420 2500
01:49:25.100 years
01:49:25.640 ago
01:49:25.860 so
01:49:26.040 you
01:49:26.180 look
01:49:26.420 all
01:49:26.720 through
01:49:26.940 those
01:49:27.200 periods
01:49:27.760 and
01:49:28.400 while
01:49:28.520 they
01:49:28.680 do
01:49:28.840 mention
01:49:29.260 certain
01:49:29.700 things
01:49:30.060 that
01:49:30.180 are
01:49:30.280 a
01:49:30.400 little
01:49:30.500 strange
01:49:30.980 they
01:49:31.140 find
01:49:31.560 a
01:49:32.600 corpse
01:49:32.960 that's
01:49:35.380 a
01:49:35.640 comet
01:49:35.980 that
01:49:36.400 they
01:49:36.840 think
01:49:37.060 is
01:49:37.200 a
01:49:37.320 little
01:49:37.400 you
01:49:38.100 don't
01:49:38.440 get
01:49:38.720 any
01:49:38.960 description
01:49:39.480 of
01:49:39.980 anybody
01:49:40.320 who
01:49:40.540 says
01:49:40.820 there
01:49:41.060 was
01:49:41.180 people
01:49:41.440 from
01:49:41.680 a
01:49:41.800 different
01:49:42.020 planet
01:49:42.480 and
01:49:44.040 then
01:49:44.300 in
01:49:45.140 addition
01:49:45.360 to
01:49:45.540 that
01:49:45.780 you
01:49:45.940 have
01:49:46.660 to
01:49:46.760 approach
01:49:47.140 it
01:49:47.240 from
01:49:47.360 the
01:49:47.480 religious
01:49:47.840 I
01:49:48.140 used
01:49:48.380 to
01:49:48.520 teach
01:49:48.760 the
01:49:48.980 New
01:49:49.140 Testament
01:49:49.540 in
01:49:49.800 Greek
01:49:50.020 and
01:49:50.460 you
01:49:51.160 get
01:49:51.340 the
01:49:51.540 idea
01:49:51.940 that
01:49:52.340 the
01:49:53.240 whole
01:49:53.700 religious
01:49:54.560 experience
01:49:55.300 in
01:49:56.200 Christianity
01:49:56.640 but also
01:49:57.220 in other
01:49:57.560 religions
01:49:57.980 is based
01:49:58.540 on the
01:49:58.940 uniqueness
01:49:59.400 of
01:50:00.540 life
01:50:00.980 here
01:50:01.320 as
01:50:02.640 we
01:50:02.820 know
01:50:03.080 it
01:50:03.320 and
01:50:04.020 then
01:50:04.200 you
01:50:04.640 kind
01:50:05.880 of
01:50:06.000 see
01:50:06.200 all
01:50:06.380 these
01:50:06.540 characters
01:50:07.020 growing up
01:50:07.740 in the
01:50:07.980 50s
01:50:08.360 and 60s
01:50:09.040 with all
01:50:09.420 these
01:50:09.680 UFO
01:50:10.060 stuff
01:50:10.480 and
01:50:11.060 you
01:50:11.260 kind
01:50:11.760 of
01:50:11.900 get
01:50:12.160 on the
01:50:13.280 ledger
01:50:13.560 where
01:50:13.760 you
01:50:13.900 think
01:50:14.120 well
01:50:14.360 this
01:50:15.060 is
01:50:15.200 not
01:50:15.460 possible
01:50:16.700 but
01:50:17.540 then
01:50:17.700 the
01:50:17.860 more
01:50:18.060 and
01:50:18.200 more
01:50:18.460 you
01:50:18.980 see
01:50:19.480 these
01:50:19.800 films
01:50:20.180 now
01:50:20.440 and
01:50:20.560 we
01:50:20.660 have
01:50:20.840 much
01:50:22.000 greater
01:50:22.440 precision
01:50:23.660 in
01:50:24.020 cameras
01:50:24.620 in
01:50:25.160 radar
01:50:25.720 sonar
01:50:26.420 and
01:50:26.600 you
01:50:26.720 start
01:50:27.000 to
01:50:27.160 see
01:50:27.340 things
01:50:27.700 that
01:50:27.840 maybe
01:50:28.120 we
01:50:28.720 didn't
01:50:29.600 you
01:50:29.800 become
01:50:30.540 I'm
01:50:31.700 now
01:50:32.080 kind
01:50:32.580 of
01:50:32.680 50-50
01:50:33.340 I'm
01:50:33.860 just
01:50:34.060 waiting
01:50:34.340 to
01:50:34.780 see
01:50:35.880 something
01:50:36.340 you
01:50:36.880 know
01:50:36.960 what
01:50:37.060 I'm
01:50:37.180 saying
01:50:37.380 the
01:50:37.620 only
01:50:38.120 the
01:50:38.620 elephant
01:50:39.300 in
01:50:39.460 the
01:50:39.600 room
01:50:39.860 is
01:50:40.280 if
01:50:41.060 all
01:50:41.360 of
01:50:41.500 this
01:50:41.660 is
01:50:41.840 true
01:50:42.180 which
01:50:42.600 I
01:50:43.100 think
01:50:43.280 the
01:50:43.460 evidence
01:50:43.800 is
01:50:43.980 starting
01:50:44.240 to
01:50:44.660 make
01:50:45.260 us
01:50:45.580 skeptics
01:50:46.380 re-examine
01:50:47.560 our
01:50:47.820 beliefs
01:50:49.020 you
01:50:49.620 would
01:50:49.820 think
01:50:50.340 that
01:50:50.920 the
01:50:51.100 average
01:50:51.440 person
01:50:51.920 then
01:50:52.160 is
01:50:52.320 going
01:50:52.520 to
01:50:52.700 see
01:50:52.960 them
01:50:53.260 much
01:50:54.140 more
01:50:54.340 frequently
01:50:54.800 than
01:50:55.120 that's
01:50:55.440 exactly
01:50:55.700 what
01:50:55.880 I said
01:50:56.120 to
01:50:56.220 my
01:50:56.360 team
01:50:56.620 yeah
01:50:57.100 before
01:50:57.500 we
01:50:57.620 started
01:50:57.760 this
01:50:57.960 segment
01:50:58.140 I made
01:50:58.560 the
01:50:58.700 same
01:50:58.860 point
01:50:59.100 like
01:50:59.300 why
01:50:59.520 aren't
01:51:00.060 skeptics
01:51:00.780 seeing
01:51:01.320 the
01:51:02.020 UAPs
01:51:02.660 why
01:51:02.860 aren't
01:51:03.160 we
01:51:03.380 all
01:51:03.680 running
01:51:03.980 into
01:51:04.180 them
01:51:04.320 there
01:51:04.480 was
01:51:05.100 the
01:51:05.260 weird
01:51:05.480 drone
01:51:05.860 thing
01:51:06.120 over
01:51:06.420 New
01:51:06.660 Jersey
01:51:07.040 we
01:51:07.700 never
01:51:07.900 got
01:51:08.140 to
01:51:08.280 the
01:51:08.420 bottom
01:51:08.660 of
01:51:08.840 that
01:51:09.200 we
01:51:11.160 have
01:51:11.400 pilots
01:51:12.440 in
01:51:13.080 the
01:51:13.200 air
01:51:13.520 with
01:51:14.300 videotape
01:51:15.020 show
01:51:15.260 us
01:51:15.500 very
01:51:16.200 bizarre
01:51:16.520 objects
01:51:17.160 that
01:51:17.380 go
01:51:17.600 faster
01:51:18.040 than
01:51:18.260 any
01:51:18.480 aircraft
01:51:18.980 that
01:51:19.860 we
01:51:20.000 know
01:51:20.180 of
01:51:20.360 on
01:51:20.500 earth
01:51:20.760 could
01:51:20.940 go
01:51:21.360 you
01:51:22.120 know
01:51:22.180 these
01:51:22.340 are
01:51:22.460 legit
01:51:22.820 fighter
01:51:23.140 pilots
01:51:23.540 who
01:51:23.700 are
01:51:23.820 not
01:51:24.080 nuts
01:51:24.620 and
01:51:25.180 there
01:51:25.320 are
01:51:25.520 quite
01:51:25.760 a few
01:51:26.020 of
01:51:26.180 them
01:51:26.420 talking
01:51:26.800 about
01:51:27.140 what
01:51:27.920 they've
01:51:28.160 encountered
01:51:28.520 and
01:51:28.760 it
01:51:28.900 might
01:51:29.060 make
01:51:29.280 sense
01:51:29.560 that
01:51:29.720 if
01:51:29.840 you
01:51:29.940 were
01:51:30.180 from
01:51:31.460 another
01:51:31.740 planet
01:51:32.140 you'd
01:51:32.500 start
01:51:32.740 with
01:51:32.880 our
01:51:33.040 military
01:51:33.480 surveilling
01:51:34.080 it
01:51:34.300 seeing
01:51:34.640 what
01:51:34.780 it's
01:51:34.940 capable
01:51:35.220 of
01:51:35.600 I
01:51:37.060 will
01:51:37.220 say
01:51:37.400 this
01:51:37.600 Tim
01:51:37.840 Burchett
01:51:38.300 from
01:51:39.620 Tennessee
01:51:40.020 was on
01:51:40.420 Tucker
01:51:40.620 show
01:51:41.000 two
01:51:41.420 weeks
01:51:41.620 ago
01:51:41.880 or
01:51:42.020 a week
01:51:42.280 ago
01:51:42.800 and
01:51:43.720 here's
01:51:44.080 something
01:51:44.660 he said
01:51:45.120 take a
01:51:45.600 listen
01:51:45.720 to him
01:51:46.020 you don't
01:51:47.820 think this
01:51:48.220 is our
01:51:48.500 technology
01:51:49.020 no
01:51:49.660 I do
01:51:50.240 not
01:51:50.460 there's
01:51:50.760 no way
01:51:51.220 it is
01:51:51.540 our
01:51:51.720 technology
01:51:51.920 there's
01:51:53.840 I've
01:51:54.800 talked to
01:51:55.120 too many
01:51:55.440 pilots
01:51:55.920 why
01:51:56.500 would
01:51:56.740 we
01:51:56.920 risk
01:51:57.440 our
01:52:00.320 best
01:52:00.820 I've
01:52:01.200 talked
01:52:01.380 to
01:52:01.520 the
01:52:01.680 best
01:52:01.980 pilots
01:52:03.380 in the
01:52:03.720 world
01:52:04.000 that are
01:52:04.360 ours
01:52:04.720 some
01:52:05.480 of
01:52:05.660 them
01:52:05.800 not
01:52:06.440 all
01:52:06.640 of
01:52:06.800 them
01:52:07.160 that
01:52:07.580 have
01:52:07.720 told
01:52:07.940 me
01:52:08.080 I
01:52:08.180 mean
01:52:08.260 one
01:52:08.440 guy
01:52:08.760 I
01:52:09.360 remember
01:52:09.520 I said
01:52:09.740 Capitol Hill
01:52:10.260 Club
01:52:10.500 was just
01:52:10.880 an
01:52:11.040 unusual
01:52:11.380 encounter
01:52:11.980 a guy
01:52:12.280 spoke
01:52:12.580 to a
01:52:12.980 group
01:52:13.240 and
01:52:13.440 he
01:52:14.340 followed
01:52:14.660 me
01:52:14.880 out
01:52:15.100 and
01:52:15.240 said
01:52:15.440 you know
01:52:16.420 Tim
01:52:16.740 or
01:52:17.380 congressman
01:52:17.880 or
01:52:17.960 whatever
01:52:18.180 he said
01:52:18.520 that thing
01:52:19.540 was 14
01:52:20.160 feet
01:52:20.500 and he
01:52:20.740 went
01:52:20.860 like
01:52:21.060 this
01:52:21.380 from
01:52:21.740 my
01:52:21.960 canopy
01:52:22.280 and
01:52:22.920 I
01:52:23.000 thought
01:52:23.140 to
01:52:23.240 myself
01:52:23.600 why
01:52:24.460 didn't
01:52:24.600 you
01:52:24.720 say
01:52:24.860 15
01:52:25.300 why
01:52:25.540 didn't
01:52:25.660 you
01:52:25.740 say
01:52:25.880 20
01:52:26.240 but
01:52:26.440 he
01:52:26.520 said
01:52:26.680 14
01:52:27.120 and
01:52:28.400 then
01:52:28.760 he
01:52:30.000 just
01:52:30.180 he
01:52:30.380 said
01:52:30.520 this
01:52:30.700 thing
01:52:30.920 it
01:52:31.200 wasn't
01:52:31.520 ours
01:52:31.820 he
01:52:32.380 said
01:52:32.580 I
01:52:32.860 don't
01:52:32.980 know
01:52:33.100 what
01:52:33.240 it
01:52:33.340 was
01:52:33.580 but
01:52:33.740 it
01:52:33.860 wasn't
01:52:34.120 ours
01:52:34.400 and
01:52:35.400 that's
01:52:35.840 all
01:52:35.940 he
01:52:36.020 said
01:52:36.240 and
01:52:36.360 I
01:52:36.480 had
01:52:36.640 a
01:52:37.180 very
01:52:37.480 high
01:52:38.180 ranking
01:52:38.460 member
01:52:38.780 of
01:52:38.900 the
01:52:39.020 Navy
01:52:39.300 describe
01:52:40.540 some
01:52:41.800 underwater
01:52:42.460 experiences
01:52:43.320 they'd
01:52:43.740 had
01:52:44.020 with
01:52:44.500 something
01:52:44.760 that
01:52:44.960 was
01:52:45.140 doing
01:52:45.480 200
01:52:45.860 miles
01:52:46.100 and
01:52:46.200 the
01:52:46.320 best
01:52:46.540 thing
01:52:46.680 we
01:52:46.800 got
01:52:46.960 is
01:52:47.080 probably
01:52:47.280 40
01:52:47.680 was
01:52:48.080 doing
01:52:48.300 200
01:52:48.740 miles
01:52:49.220 an
01:52:49.380 hour
01:52:49.440 underwater
01:52:49.880 underwater
01:52:50.220 big
01:52:50.840 so
01:52:54.420 is
01:52:54.620 it
01:52:54.780 possible
01:52:55.400 given
01:52:56.640 our
01:52:56.840 current
01:52:57.120 understanding
01:52:57.620 of
01:52:57.840 physics
01:52:58.140 for
01:52:58.360 any
01:52:58.760 man
01:52:59.060 made
01:52:59.260 machine
01:52:59.580 to
01:52:59.740 go
01:52:59.860 anywhere
01:53:00.040 near
01:53:00.320 200
01:53:00.680 miles
01:53:00.960 an
01:53:01.120 hour
01:53:01.180 underwater
01:53:01.620 not
01:53:02.100 with
01:53:02.280 our
01:53:02.440 technology
01:53:02.960 no
01:53:03.300 the
01:53:03.580 best
01:53:03.780 we
01:53:03.980 have
01:53:04.260 is
01:53:04.480 probably
01:53:04.880 in
01:53:05.080 the
01:53:05.260 in
01:53:05.540 the
01:53:05.700 high
01:53:05.900 30s
01:53:06.960 starting
01:53:09.880 to reel
01:53:10.200 me in
01:53:10.560 Victor
01:53:10.860 yeah
01:53:11.960 it is
01:53:12.900 but
01:53:13.200 on the
01:53:13.520 other
01:53:13.680 hand
01:53:13.940 if
01:53:14.080 somebody
01:53:14.360 said
01:53:14.640 there
01:53:14.800 was
01:53:14.960 a
01:53:15.120 hypersonic
01:53:15.700 missile
01:53:16.120 10
01:53:16.520 Mach 3
01:53:17.740 or
01:53:17.920 something
01:53:18.260 I
01:53:18.800 wouldn't
01:53:19.080 have
01:53:19.180 believed
01:53:19.480 it
01:53:19.720 now
01:53:20.680 the
01:53:21.480 Russians
01:53:21.800 and
01:53:22.040 we
01:53:22.260 and
01:53:22.440 the
01:53:22.580 Chinese
01:53:22.920 have
01:53:23.280 them
01:53:23.520 and
01:53:24.280 then
01:53:24.440 if
01:53:24.680 somebody
01:53:24.960 said
01:53:25.380 there's
01:53:26.480 an
01:53:26.600 iron
01:53:26.860 beam
01:53:27.240 that
01:53:27.440 can
01:53:27.620 knock
01:53:27.880 down
01:53:28.620 incoming
01:53:30.500 projectiles
01:53:31.540 or
01:53:32.220 there's
01:53:32.540 drones
01:53:32.940 that
01:53:33.140 can
01:53:33.300 go
01:53:33.560 I
01:53:33.760 don't
01:53:33.860 know
01:53:34.040 what
01:53:34.240 is
01:53:34.400 10
01:53:34.940 G's
01:53:35.460 or
01:53:35.720 more
01:53:36.120 I
01:53:37.100 wouldn't
01:53:37.320 have
01:53:37.440 believed
01:53:37.740 it
01:53:37.920 so
01:53:38.180 our
01:53:39.120 technology
01:53:39.740 is
01:53:40.180 increasing
01:53:41.140 at a
01:53:42.360 not an
01:53:42.980 arithmetic
01:53:43.540 but a
01:53:44.060 geometric
01:53:44.420 rate
01:53:44.960 it
01:53:45.480 seems
01:53:45.860 like
01:53:46.300 so I
01:53:47.100 don't
01:53:47.260 know
01:53:47.440 to what
01:53:47.840 degree
01:53:48.140 people
01:53:48.620 who
01:53:49.000 see
01:53:49.280 these
01:53:49.580 things
01:53:50.060 are
01:53:50.980 part
01:53:51.360 of
01:53:51.500 a
01:53:51.720 military
01:53:52.820 group
01:53:53.460 or
01:53:53.640 civilian
01:53:54.060 group
01:53:54.400 where
01:53:54.620 there
01:53:55.020 are
01:53:55.240 people
01:53:55.600 who
01:53:55.800 are
01:53:55.940 experimenting
01:53:56.420 with
01:53:56.720 these
01:53:56.900 technologies
01:53:57.520 with
01:53:57.920 drones
01:53:58.360 hypersonic
01:53:59.480 lasers
01:54:00.440 that
01:54:00.920 they're
01:54:01.260 not
01:54:01.540 communicating
01:54:02.580 I
01:54:02.820 don't
01:54:02.960 know
01:54:03.260 to
01:54:03.620 the
01:54:03.760 degree
01:54:03.920 that's
01:54:04.280 true
01:54:04.340 could
01:54:04.460 it
01:54:04.580 be
01:54:04.640 the
01:54:04.780 Chinese
01:54:05.200 yes
01:54:06.340 exactly
01:54:07.380 and
01:54:08.260 I
01:54:10.320 and then
01:54:11.260 the other
01:54:11.540 thing is
01:54:11.980 how many
01:54:12.340 light years
01:54:13.040 are we
01:54:13.540 away
01:54:14.460 from the
01:54:15.100 nearest
01:54:15.480 planet
01:54:16.160 that
01:54:16.860 would
01:54:17.040 support
01:54:18.160 life
01:54:18.900 and
01:54:19.220 some
01:54:19.620 of
01:54:19.740 them
01:54:19.880 are
01:54:20.080 a
01:54:20.900 lot
01:54:21.120 of
01:54:21.240 light
01:54:21.480 years
01:54:21.800 so
01:54:22.220 you're
01:54:22.500 talking
01:54:22.800 about
01:54:23.220 a
01:54:24.160 type
01:54:24.460 of
01:54:24.640 propulsion
01:54:25.180 that
01:54:25.500 could
01:54:25.660 go
01:54:25.840 at
01:54:25.960 the
01:54:26.100 speed
01:54:26.320 of
01:54:26.480 light
01:54:26.800 to
01:54:28.040 get
01:54:28.260 to
01:54:28.560 us
01:54:28.960 within
01:54:29.260 a
01:54:29.460 few
01:54:29.640 years
01:54:30.080 it
01:54:30.340 seems
01:54:30.620 very
01:54:31.080 improbable
01:54:32.940 unless
01:54:34.240 they live
01:54:34.780 in our
01:54:35.060 ocean
01:54:35.420 yes
01:54:36.640 unless
01:54:36.940 they've
01:54:37.260 come
01:54:37.460 here
01:54:37.680 before
01:54:38.220 or
01:54:39.040 there
01:54:39.280 used
01:54:42.860 to be
01:54:43.180 I forgot
01:54:43.900 his name
01:54:44.240 Von
01:54:44.600 something
01:54:45.020 he was
01:54:45.980 in the
01:54:46.580 70s
01:54:47.100 he made
01:54:47.760 the argument
01:54:48.260 that the
01:54:48.780 Egyptians
01:54:49.180 and other
01:54:49.760 monumental
01:54:51.380 civilizations
01:54:52.160 the Minoans
01:54:52.880 were taught
01:54:53.640 their technology
01:54:55.340 by people
01:54:55.820 came from
01:54:56.440 outer
01:54:57.040 space
01:54:57.620 I think
01:54:59.420 his name
01:54:59.720 was
01:54:59.840 Von
01:55:00.080 Donnegan
01:55:00.480 and
01:55:01.560 you know
01:55:02.240 he said
01:55:02.600 the pyramids
01:55:03.220 were beyond
01:55:03.680 the technological
01:55:04.340 ability
01:55:04.940 of people
01:55:05.360 at the
01:55:05.640 time
01:55:06.160 or the
01:55:06.860 lion's
01:55:07.340 gate
01:55:07.520 at
01:55:07.700 my
01:55:07.880 city
01:55:08.200 couldn't
01:55:08.820 it was
01:55:09.740 so many
01:55:10.080 tons
01:55:10.460 there were
01:55:10.720 no
01:55:10.900 methods
01:55:11.300 but
01:55:11.640 he was
01:55:13.060 refuted
01:55:13.520 because people
01:55:14.160 demonstrably
01:55:15.000 showed that
01:55:15.620 you could
01:55:16.320 do what
01:55:16.760 they did
01:55:17.360 with innovative
01:55:18.820 technology
01:55:19.520 known at
01:55:20.020 the time
01:55:20.540 it was
01:55:20.840 just
01:55:21.020 unusual
01:55:21.500 so
01:55:22.440 I'm
01:55:23.920 still
01:55:24.160 a
01:55:24.360 skeptic
01:55:24.960 but
01:55:25.220 I'm
01:55:25.400 less
01:55:25.640 a
01:55:25.800 skeptic
01:55:26.200 I guess
01:55:26.520 than
01:55:26.700 I was
01:55:27.060 if that's
01:55:27.420 a
01:55:27.500 That describes
01:55:28.020 me perfectly
01:55:28.620 too
01:55:28.880 I sign
01:55:30.140 on for
01:55:30.500 what you
01:55:30.840 said
01:55:31.000 now my
01:55:31.380 executive
01:55:31.700 producer
01:55:32.060 Steve
01:55:32.600 Krakauer
01:55:33.080 loves
01:55:34.080 this
01:55:34.340 stuff
01:55:34.640 he
01:55:35.020 is
01:55:36.040 much
01:55:36.320 more
01:55:36.460 in the
01:55:36.620 Joe
01:55:36.760 Rogan
01:55:37.060 camp
01:55:37.440 and the
01:55:38.120 Tucker
01:55:38.340 camp
01:55:38.740 he
01:55:39.060 believes
01:55:39.640 and
01:55:40.680 one
01:55:41.060 of us
01:55:41.320 will
01:55:41.500 wind
01:55:41.760 up
01:55:41.900 being
01:55:42.020 right
01:55:42.200 although
01:55:42.400 I
01:55:42.700 like
01:55:43.120 you
01:55:43.260 I'm
01:55:43.400 not
01:55:43.600 saying
01:55:43.920 it's
01:55:44.060 not
01:55:44.200 possible
01:55:44.500 I'm
01:55:44.800 like
01:55:45.020 I don't
01:55:45.680 think
01:55:45.940 so
01:55:46.360 I'm
01:55:46.660 not
01:55:46.800 ready
01:55:46.980 to
01:55:47.140 say
01:55:47.380 it
01:55:47.520 is
01:55:47.820 but
01:55:48.000 I'm
01:55:48.280 open
01:55:49.040 minded
01:55:49.380 to
01:55:49.760 proof
01:55:50.180 and
01:55:50.600 this
01:55:50.800 movie
01:55:51.080 okay
01:55:51.360 so
01:55:51.520 now
01:55:51.780 we
01:55:52.000 turn
01:55:52.340 to
01:55:52.480 Walter
01:55:52.780 Kern
01:55:53.120 very
01:55:54.520 smart
01:55:54.760 guy
01:55:55.080 journalist
01:55:55.980 comes
01:55:56.380 on the
01:55:56.640 show
01:55:56.840 and
01:55:57.680 he
01:55:58.100 this
01:55:58.600 morning
01:55:59.000 tweeted
01:55:59.860 out
01:56:00.200 something
01:56:00.740 that's
01:56:01.180 since
01:56:01.540 gone
01:56:02.160 everywhere
01:56:02.500 and
01:56:03.580 he
01:56:03.740 wrote
01:56:04.140 the
01:56:04.300 following
01:56:04.600 can
01:56:05.100 I
01:56:05.360 blow
01:56:05.760 the
01:56:05.960 whole
01:56:06.220 UFO
01:56:06.680 thing
01:56:07.220 wide
01:56:08.020 open
01:56:08.280 for
01:56:08.460 you
01:56:08.660 you
01:56:09.520 won't
01:56:09.700 believe
01:56:09.960 me
01:56:10.140 anyway
01:56:10.500 it's
01:56:11.460 only
01:56:11.740 a
01:56:11.900 matter
01:56:12.100 of
01:56:12.280 time
01:56:12.680 until
01:56:12.940 you
01:56:15.940 is
01:56:16.160 rockable
01:56:16.560 you
01:56:17.300 will
01:56:17.460 have
01:56:17.580 a
01:56:17.680 hard
01:56:17.840 time
01:56:18.080 verifying
01:56:18.580 them
01:56:18.860 but
01:56:19.300 that's
01:56:19.560 true
01:56:19.720 of
01:56:19.860 everything
01:56:20.120 you
01:56:20.320 hear
01:56:20.540 it's
01:56:21.160 true
01:56:21.340 of
01:56:21.520 unemployment
01:56:21.980 statistics
01:56:22.680 they
01:56:23.860 will
01:56:24.060 be
01:56:24.320 very
01:56:24.720 specific
01:56:25.200 things
01:56:25.660 however
01:56:26.000 and
01:56:26.840 so
01:56:27.080 far
01:56:27.360 out
01:56:27.720 so
01:56:28.180 beyond
01:56:28.620 your
01:56:28.800 expectations
01:56:29.440 they
01:56:30.140 will
01:56:30.300 ring
01:56:30.540 your
01:56:30.700 bell
01:56:30.960 and
01:56:31.720 you'll
01:56:31.900 hear
01:56:32.060 them
01:56:32.300 from
01:56:32.540 people
01:56:32.820 you
01:56:33.000 were
01:56:33.120 not
01:56:33.360 ready
01:56:33.580 to
01:56:33.760 hear
01:56:33.920 such
01:56:34.200 things
01:56:34.460 from
01:56:34.760 the
01:56:35.660 shells
01:56:36.140 are
01:56:36.700 all
01:56:36.900 in
01:56:37.020 the
01:56:37.160 cannon
01:56:37.460 it's
01:56:38.300 all
01:56:38.440 about
01:56:38.640 who
01:56:38.840 gets
01:56:39.100 to
01:56:39.300 shoot
01:56:39.520 it
01:56:45.940 now
01:56:46.060 believe
01:56:46.860 me
01:56:47.100 later
01:56:47.460 as
01:56:47.980 they
01:56:48.180 say
01:56:48.580 so
01:56:49.760 good
01:56:50.080 he's
01:56:50.420 he's
01:56:51.300 so
01:56:51.480 good
01:56:51.660 at
01:56:51.780 sending
01:56:52.100 tweets
01:56:52.380 out
01:56:52.540 like
01:56:52.740 that
01:56:52.940 right
01:56:53.180 but
01:56:53.760 there's
01:56:54.020 more
01:56:54.240 there's
01:56:54.940 yeah
01:56:55.700 give me
01:56:56.260 your
01:56:56.380 initial
01:56:56.600 reaction
01:56:56.920 to
01:56:57.020 his
01:56:57.120 tweet
01:56:57.280 because
01:56:57.400 I'm
01:56:57.520 going to
01:56:57.600 show
01:56:57.740 you
01:56:57.840 what
01:56:57.960 I
01:56:58.060 think
01:56:58.200 he
01:56:58.260 was
01:56:58.340 talking
01:56:58.520 about
01:56:58.720 yeah
01:56:59.200 yeah
01:57:01.000 well
01:57:01.280 I
01:57:02.000 know
01:57:02.220 Walter
01:57:02.500 Cron
01:57:02.760 a little
01:57:03.020 bit
01:57:03.300 and
01:57:03.700 I
01:57:03.820 really
01:57:04.080 admire
01:57:04.580 him
01:57:04.800 he's
01:57:04.940 a
01:57:05.040 really
01:57:05.160 brilliant
01:57:05.520 guy
01:57:05.840 he's
01:57:06.020 witty
01:57:06.260 he's
01:57:06.560 a
01:57:06.760 great
01:57:06.940 writer
01:57:07.320 I'm
01:57:08.400 prejudiced
01:57:08.840 a little
01:57:09.020 bit
01:57:09.180 because
01:57:09.300 he
01:57:09.400 reviewed
01:57:09.700 one
01:57:09.880 of my
01:57:10.080 books
01:57:10.360 favorably
01:57:10.900 but
01:57:11.660 I
01:57:12.480 just
01:57:12.700 would
01:57:12.900 like
01:57:13.100 to
01:57:13.260 know
01:57:13.620 how
01:57:14.280 he
01:57:14.540 when
01:57:15.220 he
01:57:15.400 gives
01:57:15.840 us
01:57:16.000 that
01:57:16.180 assurance
01:57:16.680 I
01:57:17.220 wish
01:57:17.400 he
01:57:17.520 would
01:57:17.640 just
01:57:17.840 say
01:57:18.160 and
01:57:19.260 these
01:57:19.700 things
01:57:19.980 are
01:57:20.120 going
01:57:20.260 to
01:57:20.440 shock
01:57:21.240 you
01:57:21.520 because
01:57:22.040 I
01:57:23.100 have
01:57:23.780 seen
01:57:24.460 talked
01:57:25.240 or is
01:57:26.300 it
01:57:26.400 this
01:57:26.580 movie
01:57:26.880 or I
01:57:27.220 don't
01:57:27.360 know
01:57:27.620 just
01:57:28.140 give
01:57:28.800 me
01:57:28.980 you
01:57:29.840 want
01:57:30.040 more
01:57:30.920 info
01:57:31.240 in
01:57:32.380 the
01:57:32.500 yes
01:57:32.820 yes
01:57:33.380 but I
01:57:33.740 do
01:57:34.060 I
01:57:34.900 am
01:57:35.340 here
01:57:35.540 to
01:57:35.740 make
01:57:35.900 you
01:57:37.320 good
01:57:37.680 all
01:57:38.500 right
01:57:38.640 so
01:57:39.380 just
01:57:40.360 we
01:57:40.620 had
01:57:40.860 the
01:57:41.000 Walter
01:57:41.260 tweet
01:57:41.660 and
01:57:42.040 we
01:57:42.160 knew
01:57:42.320 about
01:57:42.540 this
01:57:42.760 UFO
01:57:43.120 documentary
01:57:43.800 the
01:57:44.560 age
01:57:44.840 of
01:57:44.960 disclosure
01:57:45.500 again
01:57:45.920 which
01:57:46.120 comes
01:57:46.340 out
01:57:46.480 November
01:57:46.740 21st
01:57:47.420 and
01:57:48.020 that's
01:57:48.220 all
01:57:48.360 we
01:57:48.500 had
01:57:48.680 as
01:57:48.960 we
01:57:49.080 came
01:57:49.260 to
01:57:49.400 air
01:57:49.640 and
01:57:49.980 as
01:57:50.240 you
01:57:50.360 know
01:57:50.500 because
01:57:50.620 we
01:57:50.760 usually
01:57:50.960 give
01:57:51.140 the
01:57:51.260 guests
01:57:51.780 the
01:57:51.920 topics
01:57:52.320 some
01:57:52.880 of
01:57:52.980 them
01:57:53.080 at
01:57:53.180 least
01:57:53.320 that
01:57:53.440 we're
01:57:53.520 going
01:57:53.600 to be
01:57:53.740 discussing
01:57:54.060 in
01:57:54.220 advance
01:57:54.420 of
01:57:54.520 the
01:57:54.600 show
01:57:54.800 that
01:57:54.980 we
01:57:55.140 were
01:57:55.340 planning
01:57:55.760 on
01:57:55.920 talking
01:57:56.120 about
01:57:56.280 the
01:57:56.420 UFO
01:57:56.720 documentary
01:57:57.220 but
01:57:57.940 then
01:57:58.440 Walter
01:57:59.260 drops
01:57:59.600 this
01:57:59.800 tweet
01:58:00.140 and
01:58:00.340 we're
01:58:00.420 like
01:58:00.580 wow
01:58:00.820 that's
01:58:01.080 interesting
01:58:01.400 what is
01:58:01.700 that
01:58:01.860 about
01:58:02.060 could
01:58:02.240 it
01:58:02.320 be
01:58:02.400 this
01:58:02.560 documentary
01:58:03.000 and
01:58:03.220 he
01:58:03.340 said
01:58:03.540 no
01:58:03.920 and
01:58:04.860 then
01:58:05.120 this
01:58:05.360 other
01:58:05.840 thing
01:58:06.120 just
01:58:06.380 dropped
01:58:06.720 and
01:58:07.760 this
01:58:07.920 other
01:58:08.220 thing
01:58:08.620 is
01:58:09.480 a
01:58:10.300 bit
01:58:10.600 from
01:58:11.520 a
01:58:12.180 show
01:58:12.620 called
01:58:13.160 American
01:58:13.800 Alchemy
01:58:14.540 and
01:58:15.700 there's
01:58:15.960 an
01:58:16.160 interview
01:58:16.560 on
01:58:17.740 this
01:58:18.020 show
01:58:18.300 that
01:58:18.560 we
01:58:18.800 expect
01:58:19.100 to
01:58:19.300 drop
01:58:19.540 later
01:58:20.060 tonight
01:58:20.520 and
01:58:21.780 Walter
01:58:22.160 has
01:58:22.400 confirmed
01:58:22.780 to
01:58:23.000 us
01:58:23.200 that
01:58:23.500 this
01:58:23.800 is
01:58:24.100 in
01:58:24.480 part
01:58:24.960 not
01:58:25.880 in
01:58:26.040 whole
01:58:26.260 but
01:58:26.480 in
01:58:26.640 part
01:58:26.920 what
01:58:27.640 he
01:58:27.840 was
01:58:28.100 referring
01:58:28.480 to
01:58:28.880 Victor
01:58:29.780 take
01:58:30.480 a
01:58:30.640 look
01:58:30.800 at
01:58:30.960 this
01:58:31.360 anyway
01:58:33.500 we
01:58:33.720 just
01:58:33.900 sat
01:58:34.140 there
01:58:34.400 and
01:58:34.640 and
01:58:35.200 he
01:58:35.560 unveiled
01:58:36.700 this
01:58:37.420 mind
01:58:40.200 blowing
01:58:40.560 thing
01:58:41.380 to
01:58:41.620 me
01:58:42.000 proceeded
01:58:44.060 to
01:58:44.280 tell
01:58:44.500 me
01:58:44.760 that
01:58:45.220 I
01:58:45.820 was
01:58:46.340 part
01:58:47.320 of
01:58:47.440 a
01:58:47.820 project
01:58:48.260 that
01:58:48.700 started
01:58:49.200 in
01:58:49.440 1960
01:58:50.280 I
01:58:50.520 believe
01:58:50.660 it
01:58:50.800 was
01:58:51.140 and
01:58:51.800 the
01:58:52.840 genesis
01:58:53.280 of it
01:58:53.700 was
01:58:53.920 in
01:58:54.040 1947
01:58:54.600 we
01:58:55.160 came
01:58:55.340 in
01:58:55.480 contact
01:58:55.780 with
01:58:56.020 an
01:58:56.160 alien
01:58:56.380 species
01:58:56.900 and
01:58:57.800 1960
01:58:58.720 they
01:58:59.200 started
01:58:59.680 a
01:59:00.280 project
01:59:01.220 it was
01:59:01.680 called
01:59:01.880 Project
01:59:02.220 Preserve
01:59:02.560 Destiny
01:59:02.900 it
01:59:03.340 was
01:59:03.520 designed
01:59:03.960 to
01:59:04.640 genetically
01:59:05.600 manage
01:59:06.460 fetuses
01:59:07.560 human
01:59:08.340 fetuses
01:59:08.860 so that
01:59:09.560 they
01:59:09.720 would
01:59:09.880 have
01:59:10.060 the
01:59:10.260 heightened
01:59:10.560 ability
01:59:11.040 to
01:59:11.280 do
01:59:11.560 this
01:59:11.880 particular
01:59:12.300 thing
01:59:12.760 that
01:59:13.060 I
01:59:13.400 was
01:59:13.560 going
01:59:13.720 to
01:59:13.860 school
01:59:14.040 for
01:59:14.320 my
01:59:14.840 mother
01:59:15.100 was
01:59:15.340 one
01:59:15.600 of
01:59:15.740 the
01:59:15.980 selected
01:59:16.660 targets
01:59:17.420 or whatever
01:59:17.760 you want
01:59:18.020 to call
01:59:18.300 it
01:59:18.420 the result
01:59:19.200 of it
01:59:19.520 was
01:59:19.800 that
01:59:20.040 it
01:59:20.180 gave
01:59:20.360 me
01:59:20.480 the
01:59:20.620 ability
01:59:20.920 to
01:59:21.340 have
01:59:21.760 this
01:59:22.080 communications
01:59:22.860 that
01:59:25.000 was
01:59:25.300 in
01:59:25.560 order
01:59:25.940 for
01:59:26.400 you
01:59:26.660 to
01:59:26.860 become
01:59:27.420 an
01:59:27.820 intuitive
01:59:28.300 communicator
01:59:29.260 who
01:59:29.660 is
01:59:29.880 basically
01:59:30.820 able
01:59:31.260 to
01:59:31.800 receive
01:59:32.980 messages
01:59:33.480 from
01:59:34.080 well
01:59:34.340 receive
01:59:34.760 and
01:59:35.000 transmit
01:59:35.380 receive
01:59:36.120 and
01:59:36.300 transmit
01:59:36.680 yeah
01:59:36.960 yeah
01:59:37.480 communicate
01:59:37.920 basically
01:59:38.420 back and
01:59:39.160 forth
01:59:39.380 and he's
01:59:39.740 telling you
01:59:40.080 all this
01:59:40.600 yeah
01:59:41.100 he said
01:59:41.800 that's
01:59:42.880 what my
01:59:43.380 job
01:59:43.660 would be
01:59:43.900 doing
01:59:44.200 that's
01:59:45.480 what my
01:59:45.900 job
01:59:46.160 would be
01:59:46.500 to do
01:59:46.920 that
01:59:47.120 yes
01:59:47.420 okay
01:59:50.000 so that
01:59:51.440 there was
01:59:52.320 something
01:59:52.700 called
01:59:53.080 project
01:59:53.760 preserve
01:59:54.360 destiny
01:59:55.020 started
01:59:56.060 in 1960
01:59:57.040 in which
01:59:58.080 they did
01:59:58.560 something
01:59:58.960 to pregnant
01:59:59.700 mothers
02:00:00.140 that he
02:00:01.020 claims
02:00:01.460 heightened
02:00:02.040 the infant's
02:00:03.040 ability
02:00:03.680 to communicate
02:00:04.600 with aliens
02:00:06.080 and that
02:00:07.280 he's been
02:00:07.800 told he
02:00:08.220 was one
02:00:08.680 such
02:00:09.060 person
02:00:10.160 now
02:00:10.920 I'd be
02:00:12.680 laughing at
02:00:13.200 this openly
02:00:13.840 as absurd
02:00:15.020 if it
02:00:15.560 didn't have
02:00:16.180 some sort
02:00:16.980 of blessing
02:00:17.440 from Walter
02:00:18.060 Kern
02:00:18.480 in the
02:00:19.580 form of
02:00:19.880 that tweet
02:00:20.360 because he's
02:00:20.880 he's not
02:00:21.440 crazy
02:00:21.840 he's not
02:00:22.260 a nutcase
02:00:22.900 but I
02:00:24.880 definitely
02:00:25.760 feel this
02:00:26.340 is total
02:00:26.820 bullshit
02:00:27.220 so I'm
02:00:28.260 not exactly
02:00:28.760 sure what's
02:00:29.220 going on
02:00:29.620 here
02:00:29.860 your thoughts
02:00:30.740 I'm kind
02:00:34.080 of with
02:00:34.460 you
02:00:34.760 I wish
02:00:35.400 that when
02:00:35.880 they interviewed
02:00:36.580 him
02:00:37.040 then they
02:00:38.280 showed us
02:00:38.900 an MRI
02:00:39.560 a PET
02:00:40.980 scan
02:00:41.700 and a
02:00:42.240 CT
02:00:42.580 scan
02:00:43.340 and full
02:00:44.440 blood work
02:00:45.260 and then
02:00:46.560 gave us
02:00:47.760 some type
02:00:48.620 of
02:00:49.000 recording
02:00:50.100 or audio
02:00:50.740 version
02:00:51.140 how he
02:00:51.680 could use
02:00:52.180 this unique
02:00:52.720 ability to
02:00:53.520 communicate
02:00:53.940 something
02:00:55.580 just some
02:00:56.620 hard data
02:00:57.620 so
02:00:59.980 I'm not
02:01:01.380 saying that
02:01:01.840 people didn't
02:01:02.360 believe that
02:01:03.080 and they
02:01:03.440 didn't pursue
02:01:04.120 that
02:01:04.580 but it
02:01:05.940 seems like
02:01:06.380 every time
02:01:06.940 somebody sees
02:01:07.780 something
02:01:08.340 or
02:01:09.320 comes forward
02:01:11.400 with an
02:01:12.200 encounter
02:01:12.680 with an
02:01:13.080 alien
02:01:13.440 they don't
02:01:15.560 present
02:01:15.920 enough
02:01:16.260 evidence
02:01:16.820 to convince
02:01:18.320 the
02:01:18.720 skeptical
02:01:19.360 the skeptical
02:01:20.200 are not
02:01:20.780 prejudiced
02:01:21.300 yeah
02:01:21.680 and I'm
02:01:22.480 I'm not
02:01:23.180 biased either
02:01:23.860 way
02:01:24.100 I'm willing
02:01:24.640 and eager
02:01:25.240 to be
02:01:25.880 persuaded
02:01:27.400 the thing
02:01:27.840 that
02:01:28.520 what I
02:01:28.980 I think
02:01:29.620 they don't
02:01:30.740 fully
02:01:31.220 appreciate
02:01:31.920 sometimes
02:01:32.540 is that
02:01:33.080 if what
02:01:34.020 they're saying
02:01:34.700 is true
02:01:35.360 it
02:01:36.540 it remakes
02:01:37.480 everything
02:01:38.020 because you
02:01:39.160 go back
02:01:39.660 through all
02:01:40.160 of history
02:01:40.740 then
02:01:41.100 and you
02:01:41.440 say
02:01:41.660 these
02:01:41.860 people
02:01:42.140 were
02:01:42.340 communicating
02:01:42.860 with
02:01:43.180 humans
02:01:43.600 and imparting
02:01:44.820 knowledge
02:01:45.240 and this
02:01:45.600 just accounts
02:01:46.360 for that
02:01:47.000 and this
02:01:47.700 and this
02:01:48.540 technological
02:01:49.180 this
02:01:50.620 and wars
02:01:51.760 and all
02:01:53.060 of these
02:01:53.480 it affects
02:01:54.640 religion
02:01:55.260 Christianity
02:01:56.040 Buddhism
02:01:57.000 Islam
02:01:57.800 it affects
02:01:58.420 everything
02:01:59.040 it would be
02:01:59.940 a totality
02:02:00.800 of
02:02:01.540 a remaking
02:02:04.020 of
02:02:04.820 assumed
02:02:05.480 knowledge
02:02:06.140 of empiricism
02:02:07.280 of technology
02:02:08.520 of religion
02:02:09.360 of politics
02:02:10.600 everything
02:02:11.940 if you
02:02:12.860 if you
02:02:13.280 were going
02:02:13.520 to tell
02:02:13.780 the American
02:02:14.160 people
02:02:14.620 well your
02:02:15.020 government
02:02:15.580 65 years
02:02:18.460 ago
02:02:18.760 knew about
02:02:19.440 aliens
02:02:19.840 and they
02:02:20.060 had a
02:02:20.300 special
02:02:20.600 division
02:02:21.040 and they
02:02:21.500 genetically
02:02:22.340 altered
02:02:22.760 people
02:02:23.120 to communicate
02:02:23.840 with these
02:02:24.400 people
02:02:24.720 and they
02:02:24.940 didn't tell
02:02:25.460 you
02:02:25.680 that would
02:02:26.020 be
02:02:26.300 something
02:02:26.900 but then
02:02:27.880 the other
02:02:28.340 thing
02:02:28.560 finally
02:02:28.920 is
02:02:29.240 well
02:02:30.200 if he
02:02:30.960 had that
02:02:31.380 ability
02:02:31.800 will he
02:02:32.180 please
02:02:32.520 tell me
02:02:33.040 what they
02:02:33.640 said
02:02:33.940 to him
02:02:34.420 or
02:02:35.020 what
02:02:35.360 were the
02:02:35.800 communications
02:02:36.520 does he
02:02:37.160 have a
02:02:37.420 text
02:02:37.900 where he
02:02:38.640 transcribed
02:02:39.280 it
02:02:39.460 or did he
02:02:39.820 go in a
02:02:40.200 room
02:02:40.400 if they
02:02:40.660 took all
02:02:41.100 the trouble
02:02:41.460 to
02:02:41.660 yeah
02:02:41.960 what are
02:02:42.120 they saying
02:02:42.460 right now
02:02:42.940 yeah
02:02:43.820 they genetically
02:02:44.660 altered him
02:02:45.460 so then he
02:02:45.960 could communicate
02:02:46.640 and they
02:02:47.620 thought it was
02:02:48.080 successful
02:02:48.660 then they
02:02:49.060 put him
02:02:49.380 in a room
02:02:49.760 obviously
02:02:50.240 and he
02:02:50.960 talked
02:02:51.740 or they
02:02:52.060 looked at
02:02:52.400 brainwaves
02:02:53.020 and they
02:02:53.260 could see
02:02:53.620 it
02:02:53.740 and then
02:02:53.980 just give
02:02:54.480 us the
02:02:54.760 data
02:02:55.040 that's all
02:02:55.600 yeah
02:02:56.540 maybe
02:02:57.060 maybe
02:02:57.080 maybe
02:02:57.100 they
02:02:57.560 did
02:02:57.780 to
02:02:57.940 Walter
02:02:58.180 Kern
02:02:58.460 I
02:02:58.640 don't
02:02:58.780 know
02:02:59.020 but
02:02:59.240 I'm
02:02:59.420 still
02:02:59.660 skeptical
02:03:00.060 sorry
02:03:00.600 maybe
02:03:01.060 Walter's
02:03:01.720 one of
02:03:02.020 them
02:03:02.180 maybe
02:03:02.560 he's
02:03:02.820 part
02:03:03.020 of
02:03:03.120 the
02:03:03.340 experiment
02:03:04.300 we're
02:03:05.340 laughing
02:03:05.700 because we
02:03:06.700 don't have
02:03:07.060 all the
02:03:07.460 information
02:03:08.000 I would
02:03:08.940 say that
02:03:09.360 he's
02:03:09.560 unique
02:03:09.980 in some
02:03:10.400 ways
02:03:10.620 he's
02:03:10.820 superhuman
02:03:11.380 but he's
02:03:11.980 not a
02:03:12.360 deity
02:03:12.660 so
02:03:13.460 no
02:03:13.720 not that
02:03:14.440 we know
02:03:14.700 of
02:03:16.340 the
02:03:18.160 alleged
02:03:20.860 program
02:03:21.900 you know
02:03:22.960 that they're
02:03:23.220 talking about
02:03:23.680 in here
02:03:24.040 does remind
02:03:25.320 me of
02:03:25.780 something
02:03:26.240 someone
02:03:26.840 I care
02:03:28.040 about
02:03:28.440 during
02:03:29.560 COVID
02:03:29.920 you know
02:03:30.180 how some
02:03:30.520 people went
02:03:31.040 like a little
02:03:31.620 got a little
02:03:32.920 out there
02:03:33.340 during COVID
02:03:34.400 this person
02:03:34.980 was one of
02:03:36.080 those like
02:03:36.580 the grid
02:03:37.960 the electrical
02:03:38.640 grid is
02:03:39.120 going to
02:03:39.300 go down
02:03:40.020 you should
02:03:40.500 print out
02:03:40.880 all the
02:03:41.300 maps
02:03:41.700 and all
02:03:42.040 that
02:03:42.340 and I
02:03:43.480 said to
02:03:43.800 this person
02:03:44.180 where'd you
02:03:44.540 get your
02:03:44.840 information
02:03:45.240 from
02:03:45.640 and this
02:03:46.200 person
02:03:46.420 said
02:03:46.700 this guy
02:03:47.340 I follow
02:03:47.700 on YouTube
02:03:48.200 and forwarded
02:03:50.000 me a clip
02:03:50.840 of the guy
02:03:51.200 on YouTube
02:03:51.640 and it was
02:03:52.720 like this
02:03:53.020 British guy
02:03:53.720 who's claiming
02:03:54.240 he was a
02:03:54.700 former spy
02:03:55.380 and his
02:03:56.700 sources were
02:03:57.900 saying the
02:03:58.440 grid was
02:03:58.760 going to
02:03:58.920 go down
02:03:59.320 he had
02:03:59.560 on good
02:03:59.820 authority
02:04:00.240 and it
02:04:01.520 took me
02:04:01.840 about two
02:04:02.300 minutes to
02:04:02.800 find another
02:04:03.680 video of
02:04:04.360 this guy
02:04:04.880 claiming
02:04:05.440 that he
02:04:07.280 doesn't
02:04:07.640 call it
02:04:08.240 an alien
02:04:09.360 abduction
02:04:09.820 because he
02:04:10.360 wanted to
02:04:10.880 go but
02:04:12.180 when taken
02:04:13.040 by the
02:04:13.640 spaceship
02:04:14.060 he enjoyed
02:04:15.540 the trip
02:04:16.020 because he
02:04:16.860 lost his
02:04:17.620 virginity to
02:04:18.820 a hologram
02:04:20.100 version of
02:04:20.940 his own
02:04:21.540 mother
02:04:21.940 and I
02:04:24.080 sent that
02:04:24.900 to my
02:04:25.240 friend and
02:04:25.800 said just
02:04:27.320 so you
02:04:27.740 know this
02:04:28.400 is the
02:04:28.640 person that
02:04:29.860 put that
02:04:30.820 out there
02:04:31.280 and my
02:04:31.920 friend said
02:04:32.580 okay got
02:04:33.260 it got
02:04:33.740 it
02:04:33.980 but people
02:04:36.460 make crazy
02:04:37.400 claims like
02:04:38.260 all the
02:04:38.740 time regarding
02:04:39.560 aliens and
02:04:40.260 I do think
02:04:40.800 there's I
02:04:41.360 mean I don't
02:04:41.780 know Victor I
02:04:42.240 think there's a
02:04:42.640 fair amount of
02:04:43.060 people forgive me I
02:04:43.840 don't know anything
02:04:44.260 about this man maybe
02:04:45.040 I'll be persuaded
02:04:45.980 Steve tells me this
02:04:47.460 American alchemy thing
02:04:49.000 just dropped it's
02:04:49.700 three hours long on
02:04:50.480 YouTube maybe we'll
02:04:51.840 watch it and we'll
02:04:52.400 both be true
02:04:53.100 believers but I
02:04:54.780 think there's a
02:04:55.340 high level of
02:04:56.120 people who are on
02:04:57.820 the edge of
02:04:59.080 like fully
02:05:01.000 not sane but
02:05:03.300 like they're
02:05:04.880 very tempted by
02:05:05.960 things like this
02:05:06.680 there's something
02:05:07.160 that's very
02:05:07.760 alluring about
02:05:09.200 things like this
02:05:10.060 without evidence
02:05:10.800 yes what I
02:05:12.320 would if I
02:05:13.220 were to assess
02:05:14.160 this is a
02:05:15.820 disinterested
02:05:16.380 historian or
02:05:17.120 something what
02:05:17.680 the status of
02:05:18.440 the question is
02:05:19.140 on UFOs I
02:05:20.480 would say the
02:05:21.600 needle has moved
02:05:22.600 because there
02:05:23.340 are 30 years
02:05:25.260 ago the people
02:05:25.880 who were claiming
02:05:26.580 this were
02:05:27.040 suspicious or
02:05:28.160 they were kind
02:05:28.820 of conspiracy
02:05:29.540 theories and
02:05:30.840 now for
02:05:32.360 whatever reason
02:05:33.160 that knowledge
02:05:33.940 is filtered
02:05:34.460 into the
02:05:34.960 mainstream so
02:05:35.600 when you see
02:05:36.040 Marco Rubio
02:05:36.860 or a respected
02:05:38.440 and bright writer
02:05:39.540 Walter Kern
02:05:40.480 that has
02:05:41.400 influence but
02:05:42.540 it's not going
02:05:43.520 to go over to
02:05:44.240 the other side
02:05:45.160 the needle to
02:05:46.680 belief until
02:05:47.840 people are going
02:05:49.220 to have to
02:05:50.020 present not just
02:05:51.060 film that can
02:05:51.720 be doctored or
02:05:52.800 testimonial but
02:05:54.700 actual hard
02:05:56.340 data this is a
02:05:58.360 alien corpse
02:05:59.480 he's here
02:06:00.380 look at it
02:06:01.040 biologically
02:06:01.620 here's the
02:06:02.200 deal it
02:06:02.500 doesn't make
02:06:03.000 or this is
02:06:04.100 an alien ship
02:06:05.580 and these are
02:06:06.040 the materials
02:06:06.680 in it and
02:06:07.320 show the public
02:06:08.220 at that point
02:06:09.260 and that hasn't
02:06:10.020 happened and
02:06:11.200 then when you
02:06:12.500 ask that data
02:06:13.340 everybody says
02:06:14.080 well you can't
02:06:14.680 do that it's
02:06:16.440 top secret it's
02:06:17.800 classified well
02:06:18.680 why is it
02:06:19.080 classified
02:06:19.280 yeah you heard
02:06:19.400 them saying
02:06:19.820 that in the
02:06:20.320 trailer even
02:06:21.300 the president
02:06:21.780 only gets
02:06:22.340 information on a
02:06:23.040 need to know
02:06:23.480 I don't believe
02:06:24.380 that I don't
02:06:25.320 believe that the
02:06:26.260 president can get
02:06:26.940 anything he wants
02:06:27.900 if he wants it
02:06:28.760 and I just it's
02:06:31.840 on the I I
02:06:33.500 but I believe a lot
02:06:34.840 of conspiracies I
02:06:35.780 was told right
02:06:36.720 during COVID I
02:06:37.720 think it was in
02:06:38.240 February we had a
02:06:39.920 brilliant neurobiologist
02:06:41.600 Stephen Quay and I
02:06:42.760 had him on my
02:06:43.300 podcast and he said
02:06:45.240 when everybody said
02:06:46.480 it's a pangolin it's
02:06:47.820 a bat he said no he
02:06:49.600 had looked at the
02:06:50.220 DNA he was a very
02:06:51.480 accomplished biogeneticist
02:06:54.300 he says this had
02:06:55.860 about seven out of
02:06:57.000 a million chances
02:06:58.040 for you know the
02:07:00.040 Cleaveridge site
02:07:00.840 everything and then
02:07:02.020 he said Anthony
02:07:03.820 Fauci is not being
02:07:05.200 candid Peter Daszak
02:07:06.980 who was at the
02:07:07.540 height of his
02:07:08.340 reputation and
02:07:11.060 echo health they
02:07:13.380 transferred some
02:07:14.660 knowledge against the
02:07:16.000 law to them they
02:07:17.720 rerouted it through
02:07:18.720 echo health they had
02:07:19.700 a six hundred
02:07:20.200 thousand dollar grant
02:07:21.160 and more importantly
02:07:22.280 they were green
02:07:23.020 lighting materials
02:07:24.180 instrumentation and
02:07:26.240 informal things to the
02:07:28.900 Wuhan lab and the
02:07:30.420 Wuhan lab had denied
02:07:32.020 Wuhan the city had
02:07:33.920 denied any travel
02:07:35.200 anywhere in China at a
02:07:37.180 time where you could
02:07:38.040 travel to any European
02:07:39.260 city or American
02:07:41.140 cities when you were
02:07:42.020 infected and that and
02:07:43.700 I was very skeptical at
02:07:45.920 first but everything he
02:07:47.440 said was contrary to
02:07:49.360 what our FDA HHS NIH was
02:07:54.440 telling us Fauci and
02:07:56.000 everything he said was
02:07:57.120 absolutely true it was
02:07:58.860 all confirmed so I I'm
02:08:01.380 you know what I mean I
02:08:02.380 when I'm not it's not
02:08:03.560 just that a theory is a
02:08:05.100 conspiracy theories came
02:08:06.140 true yes but you need
02:08:08.180 but what he did and they
02:08:09.320 didn't do with the UFO he
02:08:11.940 produced all of the
02:08:13.160 genetic sequence and he
02:08:14.860 showed and he brought data
02:08:16.340 and he and I had him on
02:08:17.680 twice and I know him very
02:08:19.080 well now and he's Stephen
02:08:20.900 Quay is a brilliant
02:08:21.800 respected person but more
02:08:23.300 importantly that's not
02:08:24.220 enough he presented data
02:08:26.120 he wrote a book Roger
02:08:27.660 Kimball encounter published
02:08:29.060 it and same thing was
02:08:31.060 Scott Atlas he was
02:08:33.200 ridiculed he said if you
02:08:34.560 shut down the the system
02:08:36.860 you're going to have more
02:08:37.920 damage than the COVID and
02:08:40.560 COVID people that are young
02:08:42.380 up till 18 will not suffer
02:08:44.020 the same and it was all
02:08:45.340 based on data and
02:08:46.760 everybody ostracized him
02:08:48.220 and they were unfair to
02:08:49.140 him everything he said
02:08:50.380 was true they tried to
02:08:51.960 ruin him but wait let me
02:08:53.300 show you something this
02:08:54.060 this is this got me
02:08:55.000 thinking about this film
02:08:57.420 and I interviewed the
02:08:59.320 stars of this film and I
02:09:00.380 highly recommend this
02:09:01.520 film in fact Ben Shapiro
02:09:02.740 does this thing it's like
02:09:05.560 friends with benefits or
02:09:06.720 something like that I
02:09:07.300 can't remember what he
02:09:07.660 calls it but he asks
02:09:08.960 people to make a
02:09:09.600 recommendation for him to
02:09:10.640 watch and then he'll
02:09:12.540 review it and some of it
02:09:14.000 his friends pick
02:09:14.780 absolutely terrible
02:09:16.160 movies that just to
02:09:17.380 torture poor Ben and
02:09:18.880 it's kind of a funny
02:09:19.500 gig but also some
02:09:21.180 people offer like legit
02:09:22.600 movies and I chose the
02:09:24.620 latter route when he
02:09:25.300 asked me to do it and
02:09:26.620 this is the movie I
02:09:27.640 recommended and I
02:09:28.500 recommend it to all of
02:09:29.260 you it's called three
02:09:30.500 identical strangers and
02:09:32.700 it's it's on you can get
02:09:34.040 on Amazon Prime among
02:09:35.260 others right now and I
02:09:37.280 had on the stars of this
02:09:39.380 documentary my show when
02:09:40.780 I was at NBC and it was
02:09:42.660 one of the most memorable
02:09:43.600 incredible stories I've
02:09:46.340 ever covered we pulled a
02:09:48.680 little bit from the
02:09:49.580 trailer I'm going
02:09:50.480 somewhere with this
02:09:51.200 here's a little bit of
02:09:52.180 the trailer it was the
02:09:54.640 first day of school all
02:09:55.820 these people are coming
02:09:56.500 up to me saying Eddie
02:09:57.600 how are you Eddie hi
02:09:59.460 I'm like my name is not
02:10:00.420 Eddie I don't know what
02:10:01.160 you're talking about
02:10:02.020 soon as this guy turned
02:10:03.160 around I knew it was
02:10:04.680 Eddie's double I said
02:10:05.760 you're not gonna believe
02:10:06.620 this you have a twin
02:10:07.500 brother oh my god
02:10:10.720 as I reached out to
02:10:15.140 knock on the door it
02:10:15.980 opens and there I am his
02:10:18.460 eyes are my eyes my eyes
02:10:19.920 are his eyes and it's
02:10:21.320 true and then the story
02:10:22.820 went from being amazing
02:10:23.980 to incredible it was an
02:10:25.660 article to twins reunited
02:10:27.180 I think I might be the
02:10:29.740 third when people ask me
02:10:33.260 what is the most remarkable
02:10:35.000 story you ever encountered
02:10:36.720 I tell them it's the story
02:10:38.140 of the triplets three
02:10:40.940 identical strangers and
02:10:43.600 this is a spoiler alert and
02:10:46.360 you really should like turn
02:10:48.260 down the volume for a
02:10:49.060 second if you don't want to
02:10:49.780 have the spoiler of this
02:10:50.800 movie but it's been out
02:10:51.920 now for you know almost 10
02:10:53.160 years so I think I'm okay
02:10:54.240 saying but what is
02:10:56.220 uncovered in this movie
02:10:58.140 this documentary it's it's
02:10:59.560 true to life is that in
02:11:02.440 the 1960s there was an
02:11:05.160 experiment done on twins and
02:11:08.240 triplets and they had a
02:11:10.800 mother who was pregnant
02:11:11.760 with three baby boys and
02:11:14.480 she gave them to an
02:11:16.800 adoption agency she gave
02:11:18.240 them up to an adoption
02:11:19.060 agency and this adoption
02:11:20.920 agency worked with the
02:11:23.140 government to study forgive
02:11:26.880 me I think it was the
02:11:27.720 government pretty sure it was
02:11:28.400 the government but work to
02:11:29.760 study these sets of twins and
02:11:32.920 triplets to figure out the
02:11:35.140 nature versus nurture
02:11:36.620 question there was this
02:11:37.920 scientist who was trying to
02:11:39.660 figure out nature versus
02:11:40.500 nurture if we take these
02:11:41.480 triplets and separate them
02:11:42.900 and put them in very
02:11:44.280 different families very
02:11:45.880 different culturally
02:11:46.940 religiously financially
02:11:48.480 will they wind up the same
02:11:50.580 as each other like will
02:11:52.840 they have the same inherent
02:11:53.880 sort of traits when they're
02:11:54.940 age 30 or will they be
02:11:56.880 totally different because
02:11:58.100 nurture is more important
02:11:59.700 right and that was the
02:12:01.240 experiment and I'll let you
02:12:02.620 watch the documentary to
02:12:03.580 figure out what they
02:12:04.740 concluded because it's
02:12:05.480 actually very interesting
02:12:06.240 but my point is they were
02:12:09.260 conducting experiments on
02:12:11.360 babies without anybody's
02:12:14.140 consent without the consent
02:12:15.620 of the birth parents that the
02:12:18.240 birth parents didn't know
02:12:19.300 without the consent of the
02:12:20.360 adopted parents who were
02:12:22.460 kept in the dark about the
02:12:23.600 full nature of what was
02:12:24.400 going on they were misled
02:12:25.360 too as people actually came
02:12:27.440 to their homes year after
02:12:29.700 year to study the children
02:12:32.660 without disclosing that they
02:12:34.780 had a twin someplace or a
02:12:36.140 triplet sibling someplace it's
02:12:39.020 a crazy ass story so when I
02:12:42.180 hear this guy say in 1960 they
02:12:45.340 decided to experiment on babies
02:12:47.560 in utero to see if they could
02:12:49.060 possibly like can I discount
02:12:51.200 that absolutely I cannot no I I
02:12:55.460 I I know that's true I had a
02:12:58.680 mother who grew up in the same
02:13:00.920 house that I'm speaking to in
02:13:03.000 she was the third generation so
02:13:05.760 she went they had no money but
02:13:08.100 she and her sister went to
02:13:09.460 Stanford University and then she
02:13:11.420 went to Stanford Law School in the
02:13:12.620 1940s was kind of unusual and they
02:13:15.700 said that she was very her my
02:13:19.120 mother's name was Davis and they
02:13:21.000 were Welch and she was very
02:13:22.300 light-skinned and she had acne so
02:13:25.260 they said at Stanford University
02:13:26.680 they had a new program it was
02:13:28.220 brand new and it was going to
02:13:30.500 have x-rays on people on young
02:13:33.080 women's skin face and she went in
02:13:36.020 for 50 treatments and 50 x-rays yes
02:13:41.260 on her face too and this was this
02:13:43.760 was too and then oh 1980 she got a
02:13:50.300 letter and said that we have examined
02:13:52.600 this and out of the x number of
02:13:54.920 people this many people got cancer
02:13:57.440 and she had she was healthy she was
02:14:00.420 the first second woman appellate
02:14:03.680 court judge in California second
02:14:05.200 woman to be a superior court judge in
02:14:07.240 Fresno County and sure enough about
02:14:09.800 four years later she had a meningioma
02:14:12.180 brain tumor and they said don't worry
02:14:14.220 it has nothing to do with that study
02:14:15.580 it's benign and she died two years
02:14:17.960 later and it was malignant and so if
02:14:23.380 you would ask my family my
02:14:25.940 grandfather was always proud he was
02:14:27.640 very poor but he had three daughters
02:14:29.780 and he said I want them to be
02:14:31.820 educated nobody in our family's ever
02:14:33.300 gone to college at that time Stanford
02:14:35.500 was the college so he sent his two
02:14:38.360 girls one of them was crippled with
02:14:40.460 polio she wasn't able to go and they
02:14:42.680 both got bachelor's and advanced
02:14:44.920 degrees and they were professional
02:14:46.520 women and they loved Stanford
02:14:49.100 University they thought anything
02:14:50.480 about it was wonderful but to be told
02:14:52.760 when you were in your early 60s and
02:14:57.000 you were just coming in she was there
02:14:58.860 were rumors she might be in this
02:15:00.200 California Supreme Court to be told
02:15:02.820 that this process she didn't even know
02:15:05.580 what x-rays were they just said it'll
02:15:07.660 get rid of your acne and then to be
02:15:11.500 told that she that there were people in
02:15:13.300 this study and she should be checked
02:15:15.020 and then I think it was not more than a
02:15:18.140 year or two later she got a brain tumor
02:15:20.180 and so that's awful your point is did
02:15:23.840 they do things like that yes and did
02:15:26.080 they tell people no they did not and
02:15:29.580 you know I live on a rule it out like
02:15:33.300 we can't look at this story from only a
02:15:35.260 2025 perspective and say nah they would
02:15:37.860 never do that they were doing crazy
02:15:39.840 things yes and I can give you one more
02:15:42.060 quickly I grew up on this farm when I
02:15:45.360 was told that paraquat was a toxic
02:15:47.640 herbicide and be very careful with it
02:15:50.600 but there was a new
02:15:51.800 giflo phosphate alternative called
02:15:55.620 roundup and it was completely safe it was
02:15:58.340 not tack toxic because it was natural
02:16:00.780 salts so I had my kids and their job was
02:16:05.380 to get on a tractor and go around and
02:16:08.960 spray weeds in the vineyard and the
02:16:10.700 orchard on this big spray rig and they
02:16:13.040 were only like 12 and 14 they were
02:16:15.540 really hard-working kids and I would try
02:16:18.980 to tell them I you better wear gloves but
02:16:21.760 they said you know it's roundup everybody
02:16:23.340 uses roundup so if you got it on no I
02:16:26.280 must have been bathed in roundup myself I
02:16:29.520 put it on for 20 years I got it all over
02:16:32.940 myself but they were young and you know
02:16:36.640 and my daughter suddenly called me one
02:16:38.980 day from she was working at USC and she
02:16:41.340 said she was at her office and she
02:16:43.380 couldn't see and I drove down there and
02:16:47.480 she had an advanced form of leukemia and
02:16:50.100 died in 48 hours and then I start
02:16:54.560 reading that roundup exposure you know
02:16:56.880 can cause lymphomas and blood cancers I
02:16:59.760 have no idea but the point is when it
02:17:02.060 came out on the market it was advertised
02:17:04.300 as a not a class one permit only
02:17:08.780 herbicide you can get it at you know I
02:17:11.260 still use it you can get it at Home
02:17:12.620 Depot I have no idea if that had a
02:17:14.320 connection but my point is the way that
02:17:16.800 it was advertised was it was completely
02:17:19.960 safe and it it wasn't I don't think I
02:17:25.500 don't know if there's a connection I
02:17:26.600 don't want to make an unfounded
02:17:27.800 allegation although there's been lawsuits
02:17:29.560 where people won because they did
02:17:32.220 demonstrate yeah they to a jury that it
02:17:34.940 that it caused blood cancer but you're
02:17:37.880 absolutely right that governments and
02:17:40.140 respected institutions corporations say
02:17:42.780 things at the time and they don't just
02:17:45.060 say them they say unequivocally as my mom
02:17:48.060 my dad said I remember why would you have
02:17:50.220 x-ray she goes I didn't even know what
02:17:51.540 they were they just said it's a new
02:17:53.620 treatment and she said and he was dating
02:17:57.360 her and he said well you were always
02:17:58.540 sunburned and she said that was good that
02:18:00.600 was the treatment they said the more
02:18:02.400 sunburned you were the better the acne
02:18:04.260 would go away and so all of and we know
02:18:07.460 about the Tuskegee syphilis experiment
02:18:09.680 where African-American men were given
02:18:11.620 syphilis when not without their knowledge
02:18:14.180 so I think it's always wise to be skeptical
02:18:18.300 of authority of the establishment of
02:18:21.620 people in government whether where they're
02:18:23.660 not accountable of people who have
02:18:25.040 prestigious names or institutions that we
02:18:27.660 all think we don't dare say anything about
02:18:29.460 Harvard Yale Stanford and what I've seen of
02:18:32.500 all these institutions they're just people
02:18:34.040 and they're no better or no worse than
02:18:35.540 anybody else and often they're capable if
02:18:38.400 you give them an exemption that you can't
02:18:40.380 criticize them or investigate then they
02:18:42.400 take the advantage of that so I'm open to
02:18:45.600 everything just what you said I have no
02:18:48.200 doubt that they did that with with twins
02:18:52.500 and and I know from my own family here on
02:18:56.260 a farm for six generations and we went
02:18:58.900 through the whole from 1870 when they
02:19:01.160 started until now every iteration of
02:19:05.160 chemicals my grandfather would say use
02:19:06.840 nicotine powder it won't hurt you at all
02:19:09.220 to kill leafhoppers and then my mother
02:19:12.880 said well they said arsenic is absolutely
02:19:15.680 perfect as a herbicide we all use our
02:19:18.460 arsenic and DDT was a big thing when I was
02:19:21.840 a kid you know it doesn't it doesn't make
02:19:24.300 you sick like anything else and we had DD
02:19:27.180 powder everywhere on the for as a pesticide
02:19:31.680 so and then paraquat was parathione was
02:19:34.960 absolutely when I was growing up parathione
02:19:37.800 was you know it's deadly but people use it
02:19:40.440 all the time and it was Saigon B it was
02:19:43.240 basically a derivative of what German
02:19:46.320 chemical companies had used during the
02:19:48.140 Holocaust so gracious and not to mention
02:19:52.040 what the farmers go through and then what's
02:19:54.360 going on the food that's that's going yes
02:19:56.400 and when we went we went very organic very
02:19:58.740 early like 1980 at farmers markets and
02:20:01.840 people come over and say you're crazy
02:20:03.800 there's no danger and but yeah you had the
02:20:08.820 last laugh on that one well that's what
02:20:10.340 Robert Kennedy's trying to do right now
02:20:12.320 that's why I'm very sympathetic yeah I think
02:20:15.200 anybody who grew up on a farm in the 1950s
02:20:17.720 and 60s and remember what people told you
02:20:19.900 that they always had pest advisors that
02:20:22.700 would come out and even when I was farming
02:20:24.980 full-time in the 80s they would come out
02:20:26.560 and say I remember I got this pesticide all
02:20:30.580 over my hand the pump blew up and it would
02:20:32.760 turn orange from from my elbow to my wrist
02:20:36.100 and I could taste it from the skin it would
02:20:39.160 taste like salmon and I told the pest
02:20:42.140 advisor is I won't name the name because
02:20:44.520 it's not used anymore and he said oh no no
02:20:46.600 that's nothing that is nothing you didn't
02:20:49.560 know you know you don't need over calls
02:20:51.420 that's just too hot you don't need to have
02:20:53.620 a helmet or a breather and I was sick for
02:20:56.120 about six months from that oh my gosh
02:20:58.980 well thank God you switched to organic I
02:21:00.840 mean that's like that's that's how we've
02:21:02.540 been living and eating in this country and
02:21:04.080 our food supply which is I mean for some
02:21:06.980 weird reason the left wants to attack
02:21:08.920 Robert F Kennedy for trying to get that
02:21:10.720 stuff banned and out of our food supply
02:21:12.340 thank God he's doing it I got to run but
02:21:14.660 I'm so glad that we had this conversation
02:21:16.560 this is actually a very intellectually stimulating
02:21:18.580 half an hour thank you for staying
02:21:20.080 overtime and I guess we'll watch this
02:21:23.380 show and we'll have part two after we
02:21:26.220 both do Victor thank you thank you
02:21:28.420 Megan Wow amazing right I mean like what
02:21:32.000 do you think do you believe could it could
02:21:34.320 it be or do you think this is all like
02:21:37.300 made up stuff for people who've been
02:21:39.680 misled or who are I don't know more
02:21:42.540 conspiratorial and lean into these stories
02:21:44.260 without enough proof let me know the
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