The Megyn Kelly Show - Mamdani vs. Cuomo, Michelle Obama's New Whining, and Bombshell UFO Reporting, with Victor Davis Hanson ｜ Ep 1174

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00:01:00.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:01:06.320 Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

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00:01:15.780 The one and only Virginia Attorney General debate was last night, where Democrat Jay Jones was confronted

00:01:22.080 about his texts fantasizing about killing Republicans and their children, in which he doubled and then

00:01:29.100 tripled down on that sentiment in his exchange with a Republican lawmaker in Virginia.

00:01:33.560 That, however, was not last night's only debate.

00:01:36.920 Last night in New York City, the mayoral candidates squared off, where Muslim socialist Zoran Mamdani criticized Andrew Cuomo for not visiting a mosque.

00:01:47.300 What in the actual F?

00:01:49.920 Since when do American politicians have to go visit a mosque in order to be considered viable candidates for office? 0.99

00:01:56.960 In New York, by the way?

00:01:59.240 Okay, 24 years after 9-11, it's at that.

00:02:02.920 You have to go visit a mosque to be met?

00:02:04.780 No, you don't.

00:02:06.260 And Andrew Cuomo, grow a pair.

00:02:08.660 Why don't you look over at him and say, I don't have to go visit a mosque, all right?

00:02:14.160 I live in America.

00:02:15.360 It's a Christian nation.

00:02:16.720 I'm fine with Muslims, but I certainly don't need to go and listen to Allahu Akbar while people are on their knees five times a day in order to run this city. 1.00

00:02:25.560 Zoran.

00:02:27.040 It's like everybody was ridiculous last night.

00:02:29.400 Curtis Lewa was the only one who you could possibly see doing this job.

00:02:33.860 He was totally likable, but of course he has no chance because it's New York and they, while they used to sometimes elect more moderate Republicans like Giuliani and Bloomberg was at first and went independent.

00:02:45.940 Now they wouldn't.

00:02:47.100 Now they just won't.

00:02:48.620 They're intent on self-destruction.

00:02:51.560 So this guy Zoran Mamdani is going to win.

00:02:54.300 And then I guess we're all going to have to visit mosques if he has his vision. 0.99

00:02:57.660 Plus, President Trump critic John Bolton is now facing decades in prison for allegedly mishandling classified information.

00:03:06.360 He denies he did it.

00:03:07.420 Well, no, he actually technically doesn't deny it.

00:03:10.200 I mean, if you listen to our AM update this morning, which you should, we laid out his denial.

00:03:15.360 And it is a classic example in deception, in my opinion.

00:03:19.940 And you know that I've taken the Phil Houston class repeatedly.

00:03:22.600 He's the human lie detector, CIA deception detection architect, 25 years there, unearthing double agents and cross-examining bad guys and terrorists, Gitmo and beyond.

00:03:34.420 And Phil Houston, I mean, I can't wait to show this statement to him of John Bolton's denial, quote unquote denial.

00:03:41.780 There's no denial in it.

00:03:43.100 He does not deny that he printed out, kept and transmitted classified information, which is what he's accused of.

00:03:49.980 He says his behavior was lawful.

00:03:52.580 He gets into talking about his character.

00:03:55.160 Hello, that is a red flag.

00:03:58.540 We've talked about this.

00:03:59.800 If you say to me, Megan, did you rob the bank this morning?

00:04:04.200 I don't say, I'm a good person.

00:04:06.960 My parents would never raise a bank robber.

00:04:09.480 It would be wrong to rob a bank.

00:04:11.460 I say, no, I didn't rob the bank, period.

00:04:15.320 Listen for this one simple thing, because it's such an easy method of, you know, detecting potentially deception.

00:04:23.500 The true Phil Houston way is there have to be at least two of these signs of deception within the first five seconds of the question being asked.

00:04:32.780 That's generally how it goes.

00:04:33.780 But you can apply it to a written statement.

00:04:35.220 So, you know, the timing thing is flexible and you would look for multiple signs of deception, which there were, which there were in his statement.

00:04:42.920 The other thing he does is he goes on the attack against Trump.

00:04:45.160 That's another sign of a liar.

00:04:47.440 This is my opinion.

00:04:48.340 He may be telling the truth.

00:04:49.240 I don't think so.

00:04:49.900 But it's, again, back to my bank example, I wouldn't then say, and you're a bad person for raising this.

00:04:58.580 You're constantly accusing others.

00:05:01.100 And you used to beat people up when we knew each other back in middle school.

00:05:04.280 So you're nasty.

00:05:06.140 You're in no position to cast aspersions at me.

00:05:08.960 What is, I wouldn't say that.

00:05:11.260 I'd say I didn't rob a bank.

00:05:12.920 No, I didn't do it.

00:05:15.440 I might say, go look at my phone records.

00:05:19.020 It'll show you exactly where I was.

00:05:20.220 Something like that resorts to proof.

00:05:23.280 Something that would uphold truth.

00:05:26.660 That's what a truth teller does.

00:05:28.120 They run to the thing that will unearth what is real.

00:05:30.580 They don't go into character defenses and go on offense attacking this person.

00:05:35.400 It's just not how a truth teller sounds.

00:05:37.140 And that the Bolton statement is a classic example in all of it.

00:05:40.320 And it doesn't even have a denial of the actual charges.

00:05:43.560 He says he behaved lawfully.

00:05:45.120 Seems to be a characterization of his conduct.

00:05:48.800 Not a denial that he engaged in it.

00:05:51.540 So, all right.

00:05:52.200 We'll get back to that.

00:05:53.900 Also, J-Lo's back in the news complaining about never truly being loved.

00:05:57.000 Not by one of her, I think, six, five or six husbands.

00:06:00.700 Maybe four.

00:06:01.440 And the other two are fiancés.

00:06:03.260 We'll get into it.

00:06:04.280 But very interesting soundbite.

00:06:07.120 And my favorite soundbite of the day, and it's perfect for our guest today, Michelle Obama.

00:06:13.180 Wait until I show you the Michelle Obama, the pair of soundbites that we have queued up for her.

00:06:18.500 There's no one better to discuss all of this.

00:06:20.700 And I mean that.

00:06:22.140 Nobody uses my next guest in the right way, in my view, because he's an expert on so much.

00:06:27.200 They stay always with the hard news.

00:06:28.580 But he always has something interesting to say when you talk to him about things happening in our culture.

00:06:34.360 From J-Lo to Meghan Markle and beyond, I speak, of course, of Victor Davis Hanson.

00:06:40.440 He is a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution and host of Victor Davis Hanson,

00:06:46.100 In His Own Words, which is a new show on The Daily Signal.

00:06:50.000 He will also be joining me on the Megyn Kelly Live Tour in Bakersfield, California.

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00:08:23.640 VDH, great to see you.

00:08:24.640 Welcome to the show.

00:08:25.880 Thank you for having me, Megan.

00:08:27.780 Yeah, congrats on the new show. 0.74

00:08:29.180 So you're, is it, because you already have a podcast.

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00:08:32.020 Yeah, we did.

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00:08:37.840 But as you know, when you move, there's all these keys and everything and the name.

00:08:42.220 And so it was kind of complicated.

00:08:43.660 But we're now, after a two-week hiatus, we're back.

00:08:48.120 Well, we will find you wherever you are.

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00:08:53.540 Um, okay, this is, there's so much goodness for us today, Victor.

00:08:56.580 I'm so excited to have you here.

00:08:58.160 Might as well kick it off with the mayoral race, because that debate was actually very interesting.

00:09:02.220 Just the personalities that were on stage, really interesting.

00:09:05.960 Um, I thought it was interesting how Curtis Lewa kept saying, this one's the architect, and this one's the apprentice.

00:09:12.720 Like, Cuomo is the architect of all these terrible policies, and Zoram Mamdani wants to continue them all, but has no experience to do it.

00:09:19.700 He sounded somewhat reasonable, though, didn't want to kick the illegals out of New York.

00:09:25.040 But, you know, people were raining hell on him, Sliwa, for that.

00:09:27.880 But it's like, that's what a Republican looks like in New York who could even be considered.

00:09:32.260 You can't sound like Tom Homan and even have any hope.

00:09:35.500 So he did what he needed to do for where he's going in this race.

00:09:39.940 Okay, but the real contest was between Cuomo and Mamdani to see if Cuomo could unseat Mamdani and make some sort of headway to change the dynamics of this race in which he's behind by some 15 points.

00:09:55.400 So that's the question.

00:09:57.420 Did that happen?

00:09:58.140 I'm going to kick it off with some sound.

00:10:00.000 Here is, well, I guess we might as well start with number one since I teased it.

00:10:04.620 Here it is.

00:10:05.020 You know, it took Andrew Cuomo being beaten by a Muslim candidate in the Democratic primary for him to set foot in a mosque.

00:10:12.360 He had more than 10 years, and he couldn't name a single mosque at the last debate we had that he visited.

00:10:17.720 And what Muslims want in this city is what every community wants and deserves.

00:10:21.420 They want equality and they want respect.

00:10:23.560 And it took me to get you to even see those Muslims as part of this city.

00:10:27.840 And that, frankly, is something that is shameful and is why so many New Yorkers have lost faith in this politics.

00:10:33.640 Yeah, except that is totally false.

00:10:36.400 I worked with the Muslim community for many, many years.

00:10:39.360 Name a single mosque you went to when you were the governor.

00:10:41.800 Can you name a single mosque you went to in 10 years?

00:10:43.860 Before you were ever here.

00:10:45.960 Before I was here.

00:10:47.200 Before you were even in state government.

00:10:48.900 I worked with the Muslim community.

00:10:51.260 Imams presided over state of the states. 1.00

00:10:54.700 We worked in religious working groups, tolerance groups, anti-Semitic groups, etc.

00:10:59.480 Victor, what is this?

00:11:04.260 I'm sorry, but what is this?

00:11:06.120 We are not a majority Muslim nation.

00:11:08.120 We're not a majority Muslim city in New York.

00:11:10.860 We're 24 years post getting attacked by radical Muslims. 0.98

00:11:15.980 And now somehow you have to swing by a mosque and be able to name it in order to be the New York City mayor.

00:11:21.520 It's ridiculous, but you're right on your initial comment.

00:11:27.180 He kind of blew it.

00:11:28.660 He could have said, I don't have to have a performance art appearance to tolerate everybody and treat everybody equitably.

00:11:35.720 What I don't do is showboating and virtue signaling.

00:11:39.380 He could have said something like that, but he kind of accepted the charge and then he tried to contextualize it and say, well, I did other things.

00:11:46.560 He should have gone right back and he said, how welcome would you be in a synagogue given what you've said about Jews and what you've said about you're going to arrest Netanyahu, head of government.

00:11:56.540 He could have said a lot of things, but that's a tragedy of this whole race that if you look at the people who are running against him and you, even Eric Adams, you added those three totalities up.

00:12:06.680 They had a greater margin than Mondami did, but they couldn't just, they can't find a viable conservative, not even conservative, centrist candidate without baggage or that has name recognition.

00:12:20.900 I like Sola like you do, but he's not going to win.

00:12:24.180 And they needed somebody like a Giuliani figure and they couldn't find it.

00:12:28.660 And it's going to be an off season election.

00:12:30.980 The turnout's going to be low.

00:12:32.080 But for him, he's going to get every metrosexual, yuppie, upscale person who feels that their education or their titles or the letters after their name should warrant a nicer place, a nicer lifestyle, and they can't afford it in New York.

00:12:47.320 So they're really embittered and they're angry and they're left wing.

00:12:51.240 So he's going to win probably with 10% of the resident population of registered voters.

00:12:57.020 It's like there are 9% Muslims are 9% in New York City, 9%, nine, not even double digits.

00:13:04.200 And now this guy wants to make it some sort of a litmus test on whether you can be mayor if you swing by a mosque.

00:13:10.140 This is like, look, I don't think this is going to make the difference in this election because New York is so woke and annoying.

00:13:15.540 But I think to the outside world, this is like shocking.

00:13:18.720 This is the guy who this video came out during the course of the campaign of him eating rice with his hands.

00:13:25.040 And he tried to lean into this.

00:13:26.780 Here he is in Sot 3.

00:13:27.760 This came out from Uncivilized Media in 2023.

00:13:32.940 So the third holy grail of taboos in American politics, you have socialism, you have Islam, and then you have Palestine. 0.95

00:13:39.560 And you are really going for the trifecta.

00:13:42.020 Let's go, baby.

00:13:42.880 Let's go.

00:13:43.640 Tell me, why is Palestine a part of your politics?

00:13:47.060 When you grow up as someone, especially in the third world, you have a very different understanding of the Palestinian struggle.

00:13:55.480 Oh, Lord.

00:13:56.340 The third world.

00:13:57.040 He comes from a very rich family.

00:13:58.900 What a joke.

00:13:59.640 A cosplayer.

00:14:00.320 Before I give it to you, let me just show you what Charlie Kirk had to say about that video.

00:14:05.240 And people say, I like Mom Donnie because he's authentic.

00:14:09.100 But authentic to what?

00:14:10.120 And what is he aiming towards?

00:14:12.080 He's aiming towards a devolution.

00:14:14.580 It's bad either way.

00:14:15.300 By the way, if he eats rice with his hands, whether he means it or not, he's either authentically gross or he's being a fake, disgusting person.

00:14:21.840 And in some of the comments of a TikTok video I made, people said, but Charlie, who are you to judge other cultures?

00:14:27.400 No, no, no, no.

00:14:28.100 That's the point.

00:14:29.460 We in Western culture believe that our way of life is the best.

00:14:32.880 We're better than Mohammedism. 1.00

00:14:35.140 We don't do female genital mutilation. 1.00

00:14:37.560 Well, I guess the trans people do.

00:14:38.820 But we don't do female genital mutilation. 1.00

00:14:41.280 We in the West don't have child marriages.

00:14:43.480 We don't believe in honor killings.

00:14:45.000 We don't believe in polygamy.

00:14:47.220 We believe in American exceptionalism.

00:14:49.140 We believe our culture is better.

00:14:51.320 You see, in the modern world, happiness is the goal.

00:14:54.940 Feelings are the guide.

00:14:56.300 Judgment is the ultimate sin.

00:14:58.040 And God is the ultimate guess.

00:14:59.660 And let me say that again.

00:15:00.920 Judgment is the ultimate sin.

00:15:02.480 You're not allowed to judge others.

00:15:04.140 Guess what?

00:15:04.440 I'm going to judge you if you eat rice with your hands.

00:15:06.640 That's bad.

00:15:07.540 That's wrong.

00:15:08.880 Assimilation is a necessity, not a suggestion.

00:15:12.480 Can you imagine if anyone on stage had the guts to say something like that, Victor?

00:15:18.380 Yeah, I think he would actually resonate.

00:15:20.140 But almost everything Mondami has said in the past, he's lying that he says, you know, that he said the police were racist.

00:15:27.040 He said he wanted to defund the police.

00:15:29.000 What's very strange, he said, when they asked him about disarming Hamas, he said, I don't get involved in Middle East politics.

00:15:37.120 But then he says he's going to arrest Netanyahu, which is about as involved as you can get.

00:15:41.820 He's a complete phony.

00:15:43.160 He's a spoiled brat.

00:15:44.880 He came, his father was an apologist for Idi Amin and had connections with that horrific government. 0.90

00:15:53.060 And he's, as you say, he's a multimillionaire.

00:15:56.840 And then he's from one of, he is from the wealthiest ethnic group in America.

00:16:02.180 Indian Americans and per capita income have the highest income.

00:16:05.720 And he has the gall to say he's going to go after affluent white neighborhoods.

00:16:10.380 He should say, as a member of the most privileged and wealthiest per capita income group, those of Indian American background, I'm going to target my community first and make them pay their fair share because they're the most affluent. 1.00

00:16:24.040 And I come from the most affluent area.

00:16:26.280 He can't even do that.

00:16:27.920 He's a very scary guy because he is charismatic.

00:16:30.800 He reminds me of Obama when Obama first emerged on the scene.

00:16:35.420 Obama was a very radical guy.

00:16:37.220 He was involved with Tony Resco, Bill Ayers.

00:16:40.180 He had all of this baggage.

00:16:42.300 And then he just did just what Mom Domi did.

00:16:45.480 He smiled and he said he didn't want to judge people.

00:16:48.280 He went to that early 2004 convention and he wowed everybody saying there's no red state, there's no blue state.

00:16:55.580 We're going to unite people.

00:16:56.820 And everybody thought he was going, everybody felt if I can just vote for this guy and unite America, he's a healer.

00:17:03.040 He's half black, he's half white.

00:17:05.180 This is what America needs.

00:17:07.220 And that was all a ruse.

00:17:08.780 And he became the most divisive, racially obsessed president in history.

00:17:12.340 And this guy is the same.

00:17:13.360 He's doing the same thing.

00:17:15.040 He's smiling and acting as if he's ecumenical and he is divisive.

00:17:19.380 It's not going to end well for New York.

00:17:21.280 He's going to do a lot of damage.

00:17:23.380 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:24.400 And it doesn't seem like it's going to get stopped by anything at this point.

00:17:29.220 Here was the most telling moment, and I will give it to Mom Donnie.

00:17:33.780 It was this.

00:17:34.900 He easily won this exchange.

00:17:36.560 It was a great line.

00:17:37.640 And he hit Andrew Cuomo exactly where it hurts.

00:17:42.040 And it was completely fair and on point and got to the heart of why so many of us, while we would never vote for Mom Donnie, cannot picture pulling the lever for Andrew Cuomo either.

00:17:53.880 Just cannot, cannot do it.

00:17:55.900 Thank God I moved out of New York.

00:17:57.380 Because honestly, Victor, I was there for 17 years.

00:17:59.960 I could not vote for Andrew Cuomo.

00:18:01.620 I couldn't do it.

00:18:02.760 But I can't vote for Mom Donnie.

00:18:04.600 I would vote for Curtis Lewa.

00:18:06.120 If he drops out, I think I'd not vote.

00:18:08.920 I just can't.

00:18:10.700 Andrew Cuomo is a terrible man.

00:18:12.520 And he did directly, thanks to his policies, lead to the deaths of over 12,000 New Yorkers in nursing homes.

00:18:19.140 He was told, do not send COVID-positive patients into nursing homes.

00:18:23.400 That's exactly where the people are dying.

00:18:25.420 And he was warned by the nurses.

00:18:27.520 He overruled them.

00:18:28.620 He never admitted it.

00:18:29.860 Then he downplayed the number of deaths.

00:18:32.220 He lied about it repeatedly.

00:18:33.880 This is not a good person.

00:18:35.540 So this is embodied in the following exchange, top five.

00:18:40.880 In other words, what the assemblyman said is he has no experience.

00:18:44.180 And this is not a job for someone who has no management experience to run 300,000 people, no financial experience to run $115 billion budget.

00:18:53.140 He literally has never had a job.

00:18:55.780 On his resume, it says he interned for his mother.

00:18:58.700 This is not a job for a first-timer.

00:19:02.140 Any day, you could have a hurricane, you could have, God forbid, a 9-11, a health pandemic.

00:19:08.540 If you don't know what you're doing, people could die.

00:19:11.300 Mr. Mom Donnie, do you want to respond?

00:19:12.660 And if we have a health pandemic, then why would New Yorkers turn back to the governor who sent seniors to their death in nursing homes?

00:19:18.720 That's the kind of experience that's on offer here today.

00:19:21.240 What I don't have an experience, I make up for an integrity.

00:19:23.560 And what you don't have an integrity, you could never make up for an experience.

00:19:27.580 That was amazing.

00:19:28.780 I mean, that was a tenet.

00:19:29.460 I don't know.

00:19:30.080 You know, did you think, maybe I'm just alone in that, but when watching Cuomo and comparing him to, say, 15 years ago,

00:19:37.100 I don't know, that horrific thing he did with the rest-home deaths and then all of the sexual harassment charge.

00:19:44.340 He looks like a broken person.

00:19:45.820 He doesn't have the same spunk.

00:19:47.660 He's not quick and repartee.

00:19:49.960 And he just put on a, it was like he delivered on a platter the line about experience.

00:19:56.300 And then he said, we could have a health pandemic.

00:19:59.220 And you know that Mondani was ready for that and memorized that.

00:20:02.660 And he just put his head in the jaws of an alligator and he was chopped off.

00:20:08.200 But he looked so slow and he didn't look like his heart was in it.

00:20:11.900 And he didn't seem, Silva did, but he didn't.

00:20:16.180 I guess what I'm trying to say, he seemed like a broken person.

00:20:19.020 He really did, a broken politician.

00:20:21.320 And he knows he's going to lose.

00:20:22.600 And he knows he's going to lose.

00:20:24.460 And he doesn't know what to do about it.

00:20:26.220 And he's, 10 years ago, he would have sliced Mondani out 15 years ago, but not now.

00:20:31.600 Yeah, I was watching him too, Victor, thinking, what happened to him?

00:20:34.760 Like, this isn't, how is this the politician everybody thought ought to be, not everybody,

00:20:39.780 leftists, wanted drafted into the presidential race against Trump?

00:20:43.880 Remember when we were having that discussion?

00:20:47.200 This guy, like, he's a shadow of his former self.

00:20:50.180 He actually, he's very skinny.

00:20:52.400 I don't know if he's on Ozempic or what,

00:20:54.780 but he's gotten, like, physically more frail,

00:20:58.860 and he seems emotionally more frail.

00:21:02.020 I agree with you, he did not seem like the fighter who is Mario Cuomo's son.

00:21:06.300 And that's the only kind of version of him that had a shot

00:21:09.340 in making up a 15-point difference between now and Election Day.

00:21:14.240 It's not going to happen.

00:21:16.520 Here is some more dishonesty, though, for what it's worth,

00:21:18.900 from Momdani, who got up there now after saying it someplace by our count between 10 and 15 times

00:21:26.060 that he wanted to defund the police.

00:21:28.380 Now he doesn't want to defund the police.

00:21:31.180 That's not true.

00:21:32.240 That's changed.

00:21:33.200 Here it is in SOT 6.

00:21:34.140 I am looking to work with police officers, not to defund the NYPD,

00:21:39.300 looking to ensure that officers can actually do one job when they're signing up to join that department.

00:21:44.460 Okay, and then they asked him, Victor, what do you mean now, right?

00:21:50.600 Because you've been going after cops nonstop.

00:21:53.900 You've called them terrible, terrible things.

00:21:56.260 Like, you've had nothing but scorn for police officers.

00:21:59.480 And are you taking that back?

00:22:01.640 Because he said, okay, well, I have an apology for those cops.

00:22:04.400 Like, I apologize to cops.

00:22:05.860 And they said, what specifically are you apologizing for?

00:22:09.040 The words that you used, the language you used, or the thinking behind the attacks that you were making?

00:22:17.340 And he said, quote, the issuing of the apology is to reckon with the fact that it's language that I'm applying to the officers.

00:22:29.860 The language.

00:22:30.860 When in fact, what I'm speaking about are specific practices.

00:22:34.380 What he seems to be saying there is, I shouldn't have used the language I used about cops, but the thinking remains the same.

00:22:41.460 So he wants to get credit now for, I guess, not wanting to defund the cops, even though I'll just read to you.

00:22:47.800 Cops are wicked and corrupt.

00:22:49.680 There's no negotiating with them.

00:22:51.640 Defund it, meaning the police department, dismantle it, end the cycle of violence.

00:22:55.660 We don't need an investigation, this is everyone, to know NYPD is racist, anti-queer, and a major threat to public safety.

00:23:01.560 What we need is to defund the NYPD.

00:23:04.380 Goes on, no fake cuts, defund the police.

00:23:07.720 Another one, we want to defund the police.

00:23:09.920 Another one, queer liberation means defund the police.

00:23:13.020 So now he's had to run around because people love the police in New York and try to apologize for calling them wicked, corrupt, racist, a major threat to public safety.

00:23:22.900 But he seems to be splitting the baby, saying, the words were wrong, but the sentiment, the ideas were right.

00:23:30.300 You know, it's kind of funny because, you know, I was a classicist, Am, and there was this sophistic movement.

00:23:38.260 And these were people who said that if I can convince somebody with language, it must be true, whether it is or not, because they wouldn't believe me if it wasn't true.

00:23:45.040 But there's a very famous line in Euripides' play, The Hippolytus, where he says crazy things, and he said, my tongue said it.

00:23:53.200 I didn't say it.

00:23:54.900 So I'm not responsible.

00:23:56.660 Yeah, my heart didn't say it.

00:23:58.600 The Greeks thought your brain was in your heart.

00:24:00.740 And he said, my heart didn't mean it.

00:24:03.080 My tongue was as if your tongue has a life of its own, and it says these things, and it has no connection.

00:24:08.400 That's going to be Jay Jones' defense in a minute, too.

00:24:11.160 Yeah, it is.

00:24:12.220 It wasn't me.

00:24:14.140 So, I mean, they're going to let him get away with this because he's leftist, and he was very disciplined in his message of economic inequality and economic opportunity, and I'm going to tax the so-called rich who aren't allegedly paying their fair share.

00:24:29.600 I want them to have to pay 52% in taxes.

00:24:32.460 They have to go up another 2%, and that's going to fund everything.

00:24:35.320 That's going to fund my bus program, my, quote, free bus program, my city grocery stores.

00:24:41.740 And he, I mean, he seems to think that there is, like, an endless well of money amongst rich people, and there isn't.

00:24:50.200 Here's a little bit of that in SOT 10.

00:24:54.140 But the question is how you'll make them free.

00:24:56.320 We will fund the revenue that would have otherwise been brought in from fares, and that's something that we would do in partnership with Albany.

00:25:02.360 And I've put forward two proposals.

00:25:03.840 The first is to raise taxes on the top 1% of New Yorkers by 2%.

00:25:07.640 That would raise $4 billion.

00:25:09.160 The second is to raise the state's top corporate tax rate to match that of New Jersey, which would raise $5 billion.

00:25:15.580 That's his solution, and this city is about to bless it.

00:25:19.700 The problem New York has is that about 40% of the people don't pay either on the subway or they just jump the turnstile, as we saw with the murdered DeCarlos Brown.

00:25:28.860 He didn't even pay to get on that bus in Carolina.

00:25:32.600 So the idea that all of these public transits are in the red because they cannot collect fares because during COVID or after George Floyd, it was considered wrong to enforce ticket gathering or paying to use mass transit.

00:25:52.240 And then he comes along and says, well, the problem is that we make people pay too much when the real problem is they're not really – a whole segment of the population never pays anyway.

00:26:03.560 And so does he think that the people who jump the turnstiles in mass numbers are therefore better citizens because they get to have free subway or free buses?

00:26:14.600 I mean, I don't understand it.

00:26:16.440 There's so many people that don't –

00:26:17.340 Well, meanwhile, he's got this leftist belief that there's just an endless supply of rich people who will stay in New York forever and be his guinea pig – be his piggy bank.

00:26:27.460 Not guinea pig, piggy bank.

00:26:29.100 And I'm here to tell you it's not true.

00:26:30.900 I mean, I know a lot of rich people who live in New York City, and they're fleeing.

00:26:33.720 They already were fleeing post-COVID and that nonsense, but they're fleeing right now in anticipation of this guy winning.

00:26:39.440 The pot of billionaires and millionaires from whom he has to steal is smaller than ever.

00:26:45.680 I'll just give you one example.

00:26:47.460 So we moved from New York to Connecticut in 2021, and we sold our apartment on the Upper West Side.

00:26:52.900 And we just went back just for kicks to see, like, what was going on with our apartment because we heard that it was for sale.

00:26:58.900 And it's for sale, and it's almost 30% discounted from where we sold it post-pandemic when people were not running into the city.

00:27:07.280 That was a tough time to sell the apartment, trust me.

00:27:09.600 So it's like it was already at, like, a market decline.

00:27:12.740 And since then, it's gone down almost 30%, this beautiful, almost new apartment, because of him, because people see what he's about to do, and they're running.

00:27:23.560 You know, what is it?

00:27:24.820 The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

00:27:28.260 Yeah, but you know what he'll do is if you look at the Castro brothers or Maduro or Hugo Chavez, any of these socialist-ass communists that take over, the first thing they do is go to wealthy people.

00:27:41.420 And they say, you know what?

00:27:43.720 Everybody's scared of me, but I will cut a deal with you or you and you.

00:27:47.860 And they get a small cadre who flip, and then they get concessions and exemptions from what he does.

00:27:53.960 And I think he's going to do that.

00:27:55.280 He's going to go to Wall Street, and he's going to say, you know what?

00:27:58.100 You're here.

00:27:59.300 Your family's here.

00:28:00.480 I'm not going to touch you, but I want to know if you're going to support me and be on my team and shut up or give money.

00:28:07.580 And there will be a lot of people who will be co-opted.

00:28:10.740 I predict it.

00:28:11.700 That's exactly what happened in Cuba and Venezuela.

00:28:14.460 It's happened in Colombia.

00:28:15.760 And any time a socialist takes over, a communist, the first thing he does, they did that in the Bolshevik Reservoir, they go to the aristocracy or what they call the oligarchy, and they start to cut deals.

00:28:26.700 And these stupid people think they'll be protected or exempted by doing business with the city, or he'll say, I'll give you a contract with the city, or I won't enforce this city tax on your firm, or something like that.

00:28:39.820 And that's what he's counting on, I think.

00:28:42.340 That's why he knows a lot are going to flee, but he also knows that he's talking to a lot of very, very wealthy people in New York that don't want to leave.

00:28:50.240 And he's saying, if you don't want to leave, I can make it easy for you, but you're going to have to play ball with me, and there's going to be recompense for it rather than punishment.

00:28:59.700 And I bet you'll see a lot of people.

00:29:02.960 And they're always deluded because in the end, they always get it eventually.

00:29:07.260 That's what happened in Russia.

00:29:08.420 That's what happened in China.

00:29:09.360 That's what happened in Cuba.

00:29:10.560 That's what happened in Venezuela.

00:29:11.960 You cannot deal with these people.

00:29:13.700 And yet there'll be people in New York who think they can, and Mondami, I think, is counting on that.

00:29:19.040 He is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

00:29:22.360 He is.

00:29:23.180 He's affable.

00:29:24.000 He's smiley.

00:29:25.180 He talks a good game.

00:29:27.100 But his policies are as radical as they come.

00:29:31.740 If I had a nickel for every friend of mine in New York who said, you got out just in the nick of time, good for you.

00:29:38.240 We're so envious that you sold and you got out, and that's how we feel, too.

00:29:41.600 Thank God.

00:29:42.240 I mean, Connecticut's better.

00:29:43.300 It's still leftist, but it's not as leftist as that city's about to go.

00:29:47.420 Let's keep going because the real interesting one for me is the one down in Virginia.

00:29:52.020 We never pay attention to a state attorney general race, right?

00:29:55.060 Like, that's not really something we cover at the national level.

00:29:57.220 But this one's very telling because it's a statement on the Democratic Party in today's day and age in the wake of Charlie's assassination and the growing threats and attempts on the lives of Republicans.

00:30:07.820 This guy running for attorney general, the Democrat, dreams and fantasizes and waxes poetic about shooting his Republican rivals in the head with two bullets.

00:30:17.620 And not just that, but their children, too, gleefully discussing the possibility of watching them die in their mother's arms and then triples down on it.

00:30:25.700 When chastised by a Republican colleague saying, you sound like a monster, what are you saying?

00:30:29.620 Stop that.

00:30:30.400 I'm uncomfortable.

00:30:31.980 Doesn't even take the hint.

00:30:33.300 Goes back repeatedly to say, no, you need to hear me out.

00:30:36.760 This is why I'm right.

00:30:38.160 They'll never change their policy positions unless they feel the pain.

00:30:41.600 And it's not a rhetorical use of that phrase.

00:30:44.460 It's I want their children dead.

00:30:47.340 And there's a couple of things I want to point out on this.

00:30:49.740 So that that Democrat is named Jay Jones.

00:30:52.040 He's challenging the incumbent, Jason Meorez, for the position.

00:30:55.700 And Jay Jones had been winning prior to this scandal breaking.

00:30:58.700 Now it's neck and neck.

00:31:00.440 And Tucker had on a Virginia state delegate named Terry Kilgore, I think, yesterday.

00:31:09.740 And he put some perspective on just why, in addition to the obvious, Jay Jones's texts were so abhorrent.

00:31:19.180 Listen here to SOT 14.

00:31:22.660 The General Assembly all the time.

00:31:24.020 Everybody knew the Gilbert kids.

00:31:27.460 And Jay Jones would have known the Gilbert kids.

00:31:29.520 That's what's terrible about this whole situation.

00:31:32.660 It wasn't like, hey, I want to kill a kid who's from another country. 0.98

00:31:36.380 You would know this kid, these kids, because you run the General Assembly.

00:31:40.400 Talked to him this past week just to check on him.

00:31:43.180 And the bad thing about it is now there has to be police presence where his kids are.

00:31:49.600 And that's what's because they they still receive threats.

00:31:54.740 It's amazing that Jay Jones, who wants to be the top law enforcement official of the Commonwealth of Virginia, directly put those children in danger, directly put their lives in danger.

00:32:02.820 And just one more for you, Victor.

00:32:04.540 This is Jason Mears, the Republican and incumbent, raising some of those same points last night at the debate to his opponent, Jay Jones, SOT 13.

00:32:13.240 I have to make this observation.

00:32:15.340 He keeps saying that he is sorry.

00:32:17.480 Jay, if you're really sorry, you wouldn't be running.

00:32:20.620 If you really understood the ramifications of what you said about an innocent mom and her children, you know Todd Gilbert.

00:32:28.700 You served with him.

00:32:30.160 Jennifer would come to the General Assembly.

00:32:32.280 She would bring her children.

00:32:33.540 We would see them run in the hallways.

00:32:35.400 They were two and five years old at the time.

00:32:38.000 This wasn't a hypothetical.

00:32:39.700 This wasn't some figure that you know from far away.

00:32:42.580 You actually know Todd.

00:32:44.180 This is a flesh and blood, real husband.

00:32:47.200 Jennifer is a real mom.

00:32:49.120 These are real kids.

00:32:50.720 How in the world could you ever show compassion and comfort a grieving mother that has ever lost a child to violence?

00:32:57.620 Because, Virginians, there is no cry like the cry of a mother that has lost her child.

00:33:02.460 A prosecutor knows this because they've stood in that courtroom.

00:33:06.040 Jay Jones has never understood this because he's not a prosecutor.

00:33:09.300 He's a politician trying to save his career.

00:33:11.260 And what we heard from Jay Jones, and I'll play some of the sound, Victor, after you weigh in, but was basically, I'm sorry for the texts.

00:33:19.580 I don't stand by those sentiments.

00:33:21.760 And Donald Trump is bad.

00:33:23.160 And I'm the only one who will fight Donald Trump, the evil Donald Trump.

00:33:26.500 This guy won't do it.

00:33:27.440 Yeah, I think when you had these left-wing funded campaigns for attorney generals, it was actually really brilliant what George Soros did.

00:33:35.800 He said to himself, if you really want to change America, you want to get attorney generals and local prosecutors because they can most directly influence the culture by letting criminals out, not indicting them or not censing them or letting them out on amnesties.

00:33:54.320 And they went out and picked the most left-wing radical people, whether it was Keith Ellison of Minnesota or Letitia James or Mr. Jones.

00:34:06.860 And when you do that, you get this other baggage like you do with Letitia Jones and Keith Ellison and Jay Jones.

00:34:14.560 And there was – what was even – it wasn't as bad, but in some ways it was even more glaring in a sense was he didn't drive 80 miles an hour or he didn't drive 85.

00:34:26.940 He didn't drive 90.

00:34:27.800 He didn't drive 100.

00:34:28.720 He didn't drive 105.

00:34:30.500 How many people, Megan, have you ever met drove 116 miles an hour?

00:34:35.200 That deliberately was saying to people, I'm going to drive this fast.

00:34:39.340 And if anybody is in my way, they're going to be dead, and I don't care.

00:34:44.620 And then when he was sentenced, he used his own pack or this thing that was related to him for the community service.

00:34:53.680 So everything about him –

00:34:54.700 It wasn't real community service.

00:34:56.700 No, it wasn't.

00:34:57.700 Everything about him is distasteful.

00:35:00.320 He's trying to be – he reminds me of Mondom. 1.00

00:35:02.740 He's trying to smile and be smug, but he never comes to terms at the state.

00:35:06.980 As you say, the head law enforcement officer of Virginia is telling the people of Virginia, I have threatened to kill people.

00:35:14.780 I would like people to be dead, little children, and I have driven 116 miles an hour.

00:35:20.400 And anybody else who did that would be in jail for a year for reckless endangerment, et cetera, felony.

00:35:26.680 And I didn't have any consequences really at all.

00:35:30.040 In fact, I used that sentence for my own political advantage.

00:35:33.540 It's just – it's disgusting that he's even on the stage.

00:35:37.880 He has no respect for the rule of law.

00:35:39.420 He's made that clear.

00:35:40.440 That did come up, that incident, the reckless driving incident last night.

00:35:44.240 Here is Merez raising the issue in SOC 15.

00:35:46.720 The reality is that Jay Jones was in court for going 116 miles an hour on Interstate 64.

00:35:53.680 Four people were in court that day, were going roughly the same speed.

00:35:56.960 Three of those four people got suspended or acted jail sentence.

00:36:00.420 But Jay Jones is a politician, and he asked the court not to give him any of that, to give him community service.

00:36:06.360 And instead, we now know he misled the court.

00:36:09.080 That community service, it wasn't done for a charity.

00:36:11.620 It was done for his own political action committee that he controlled.

00:36:14.700 Jay, if you were to apply to be a lying prosecutor in not just my office, any attorney general office in the country, you would not pass a background check.

00:36:24.440 And right now, you may say that you are sorry.

00:36:26.940 But look back at what happened.

00:36:28.580 You had three years to say you're sorry, Jay, and you didn't.

00:36:33.200 That's very effective to me.

00:36:34.940 I'm just going to say one thing.

00:36:36.720 Jason Mera's got an issue with the hair.

00:36:38.800 It's like greased down.

00:36:40.500 It looks kind of greased down and smushed to his head.

00:36:43.480 And I'm sorry, I'm rooting for him, but it looks a little, like, off, a little smarmy.

00:36:50.940 I, like, someone needs to do something about that.

00:36:53.380 Because women do respond to things like hair, and that needs an intervention. 1.00

00:36:57.740 I don't know what his, maybe they're too afraid to tell him.

00:37:00.120 I'm not too afraid to tell you, sir.

00:37:02.040 You need to get rid of some of that oil out of the hair, gel, whatever you're doing.

00:37:05.200 You've overdone it.

00:37:05.900 It's okay if it's, like, a little fluffy.

00:37:07.220 You went too far, but your rhetorical points are excellent.

00:37:10.620 Yeah, I think as if somebody who's bald, we don't, men that are bald think, I'll take it.

00:37:17.460 But no matter what it looks like, at least it's hair.

00:37:20.880 But there's a larger trend, and I have to be very careful what I say here.

00:37:27.000 But when you look at Leticia James and her racialized campaign and her various houses that she had, or you look at Mondami, he's a multimillionaire from a multimillionaire family.

00:37:38.160 And you look at Jones, who's from an old, wealthy, established African-American family.

00:37:43.700 And you look at the year 2025, when race and class are divergent now. 0.70

00:37:50.180 There's no real connection.

00:37:51.660 So what we're talking about is very affluent people like James, like Mondami, like Jones.

00:37:58.540 And at some point, they all play the ethnic card. 0.65

00:38:01.940 He did it.

00:38:02.700 You know, he talked about all of these civil rights things, and he couldn't do this.

00:38:06.580 And Mondami's talking about the poor Muslims, and Latita James is talking about a white Donald Trump doing this.

00:38:13.360 And I think most people are saying, you know what, whether I look at The View or Oprah or Michelle Obama, I'm tired of equating race with persecution and bias and poverty.

00:38:25.040 In fact, we've been 60 years into the civil rights and affirmative action, which is a prototype of DI, and there's very little connection anymore with a lot of ethnic groups.

00:38:36.580 And social oppression, poverty, white bias, if at all. 0.60

00:38:41.700 So you get this really ridiculous Orwellian where these very wealthy, privileged people get up on the stage, and then they start self-referencing their victim status.

00:38:51.620 And they all do it in a different degree.

00:38:53.400 Mondami does it all the time.

00:38:55.420 And so does Letitia James.

00:38:56.940 And he did it about his family's work.

00:38:58.960 And I honor that, all that.

00:39:01.340 But he's not a victim any more than Cory Booker is a victim, even any more than Jasmine Crockett, the prep school girl, is a victim.

00:39:09.720 And I think people just have to just say that and say, you know, we are tired as Americans of all different backgrounds,

00:39:16.380 of these people who are the most privileged, 2%, 5%, 1% of the country,

00:39:21.220 And then they make us feel as if we owe them something because their religion or their gender or their sexual orientation or their skin you is not of the majority.

00:39:32.840 And therefore, they deserve special consideration or exemption for what they do or say.

00:39:39.180 And that's what the subtext is.

00:39:40.560 All of these people think, I don't need to be judged by the way most people are judged because I have extenuating circumstances.

00:39:49.020 I'm a proud Laquita James black woman.

00:39:51.560 I'm Mondami who came from Africa.

00:39:53.880 And I'm a Muslim.

00:39:55.140 And you don't go to the mosque.

00:39:57.540 Same thing with Keith Ellison.

00:39:59.140 All of them do it.

00:40:00.500 And yet they're all very privileged.

00:40:02.060 And we're supposed to go along with this farce.

00:40:05.060 And I think that's one reason people are getting very, very sick of it.

00:40:08.780 And I hope I'm dying to show you the Michelle Obama sound, but it's everything in me to not run them right now.

00:40:14.860 But we're on the Virginia debate.

00:40:16.320 So I'm going to hold them.

00:40:17.200 But just put a pin in that exact thought that you just that you just expressed, because it's the perfect tee up to what we're going to play from her.

00:40:25.440 But before we get to her, let's stick with the debate.

00:40:27.940 I do want to show Jay Jones first.

00:40:31.720 He apologizes for the text.

00:40:35.200 And here is how that sounded.

00:40:37.220 SOT 11.

00:40:38.780 Now, tonight, you're going to hear two very different visions for the future of this commonwealth.

00:40:43.660 And you're also going to hear from my opponent about text messages that I sent that I deeply, deeply regret.

00:40:50.940 Let me be very clear.

00:40:53.280 I am ashamed.

00:40:55.380 I am embarrassed.

00:40:57.300 And I'm sorry.

00:40:59.200 I'm sorry to Speaker Gilbert.

00:41:01.620 I'm sorry to his family.

00:41:02.900 I'm sorry to my family.

00:41:05.440 And I'm sorry to every single Virginian.

00:41:09.520 I cannot take back what I said.

00:41:12.760 But you have my word that I will always be accountable for my mistakes.

00:41:15.940 This race has always been about more.

00:41:18.900 It's always been about each and every one of you and the future of this commonwealth.

00:41:22.960 Because when Donald Trump fires workers, defunds our schools and levies tariffs to destroy our regional economies, sends armed troops into cities and defunds law enforcement.

00:41:34.120 He has a willing cheerleader here in Jason Muyares.

00:41:36.800 Okay, so that was number one.

00:41:40.660 Now he's deeply sorry.

00:41:41.820 But his first response when this text message scandal broke was not to say, I am so sorry and I'm so embarrassed.

00:41:50.280 I like, I don't even know what to say.

00:41:52.480 I'm humiliated.

00:41:53.520 It was to attack Donald Trump.

00:41:55.800 That's what his initial instinct was.

00:41:57.780 He was like, Donald Trump is this and my opponent sucks and I will not be brought down by this kind of whatever.

00:42:03.620 And it wasn't until shortly thereafter that clearly his team got to him and said, no, no, no, no, not it.

00:42:09.520 There's only one right thing to do and that is to apologize, apologize, apologize.

00:42:13.260 That he then issued a sheepish like, oh, and by the way, I'm sorry for my texts.

00:42:18.000 Now, by the time he gets to the debate, he knows he needs to genuinely sound sheepish.

00:42:23.580 And he then says, my party held me accountable.

00:42:27.700 How?

00:42:28.920 Literally, no one's called for him to step down.

00:42:31.400 No one has called, no one has withdrawn their endorsement, most notably not the woman running for governor above him, Abigail Spanberger.

00:42:40.260 No one's calling for accountability.

00:42:42.460 And that was raised.

00:42:44.040 And this is how that went.

00:42:46.260 Sot 12.

00:42:47.680 Why should voters trust your judgment moving forward?

00:42:50.500 Well, look, Brett, I want to say one thing.

00:42:51.900 Jason Meares can't prosecute a case against Donald Trump, that's for sure.

00:42:55.160 And I will also say this.

00:42:56.120 I was held accountable by my party and I deeply, deeply respect that.

00:42:59.980 But what about when Donald Trump used incendiary language to incite a riot to try to overturn an election here in this country?

00:43:05.880 What about when Winsome Sears used violent language about people who disagree with you and her and your extreme position on abortion? 0.95

00:43:11.640 I've taken accountability for my mistakes.

00:43:13.480 It's time you take accountability, too.

00:43:15.720 And let me ask you just one more time, Delegate Jones, just so we're clear and the voters understand.

00:43:19.960 Why do you think they should trust your judgment based upon these two events that we've discussed?

00:43:24.140 I've taken accountability for my mistakes, and I know that people in Virginia right now demand and deserve leaders who accept when they make mistakes and can acknowledge that and have been held accountable.

00:43:34.740 This job right now demands someone who will hold Donald Trump accountable.

00:43:38.420 And Jason Mieros got up there and said, how?

00:43:42.780 How have you held yourself accountable?

00:43:43.820 If you were holding yourself accountable, you would have dropped out of this race because you cannot possibly get this job and sit with the parents of murdered children, which unfortunately is part of being in law enforcement, and have anybody trust you that you actually feel any sort of empathy for them, especially if they're Republicans, since your thoughts are in writing.

00:44:04.580 And by the way, Victor, I did pull up the original statement that he gave when National Review broke this story.

00:44:09.840 First, he ignored repeated requests for a comment, then later put out a statement blaming Mieros and Trump.

00:44:15.140 Quote, like all people, I've sent text messages that I regret, and I believe violent rhetoric has no place in our politics.

00:44:20.820 Let's be clear about what is happening in the attorney general race right now.

00:44:24.200 Jason Mieros is dropping smears through Trump-controlled media organizations, that'll be news to the folks at NR, to assault my character and rescue his desperate campaign.

00:44:34.940 This race is about whether Trump can control Virginia or Virginians control Virginia.

00:44:39.060 And it was only until later that he put out an actual apology.

00:44:42.700 That's what we're dealing with here.

00:44:43.680 Yeah, we know he didn't mean it, because he basically, he didn't basically, he just said, I've taken responsibility, but basically what I said, wanting the death of small children in the arms of their mother, is not as bad as my opponent, because he agrees with half the country, Donald Trump.

00:45:05.380 And he voted with half the country, and he likes what Donald Trump is doing with basically half the country.

00:45:13.420 And therefore, that in itself is as bad as what I've done.

00:45:17.720 The worst thing about it was, the whole context of why he said that was because the Speaker of the Legislature was trying, it was in the process of commemorating an African-American legislator who had died, as I recall.

00:45:32.040 And so I think the people out there would think, well, if somebody tries to be ecumenical and healing and racial affairs and wants to have a resolution honoring a person, and this guy, the attorney general then attacks him in a way, how is he going to treat me as a Virginian?

00:45:54.180 When I have a legal problem, or I'm indicted, and his attorneys will take orders from him, is he going to give me a good, what could I do to win his approval?

00:46:05.080 If somebody who had praised a deceased African-American iconic legislator earned that from him, how would that affect me as a Virginian?

00:46:16.600 And then they could also say, if I speed go 90, are they going to press charges against me?

00:46:23.760 Can I apply for, I don't know, community service with my own organization?

00:46:28.860 That's what everybody, he's the chief law enforcement officer, and he has zero credibility, and he really doesn't feel at all bad about it.

00:46:38.080 He feels bad that he got caught.

00:46:39.960 You made a good point.

00:46:40.880 Anybody that knows National Review, and I wrote there for 21 years, I was working for them.

00:46:46.940 They were the most anti-Trump vehicle as much as anybody on the left for years.

00:46:52.880 So the idea that this is some Trump news organization, it's just, the whole thing is demagoguery, and he's, he reminds me a lot of Mondami.

00:47:02.160 And this is the new Democratic Party, where they want to have all of these new neo-socialist radicals, and then they don't, they can't do background checks on them,

00:47:13.380 because they got to where they were by all this racialized invective and hatred, and then they get into positions where they want to run the country,

00:47:23.700 and then this comes out, and then they either play the race card, or the religion card, or they say that their opponent is Trump.

00:47:31.340 And that's why the Democratic Party is just, it's, I'm not saying it won't pick up seats, because of its power in the street,

00:47:40.280 and the foundations, and academia, and they have a lot of resources, but they're, no one wants them.

00:47:47.660 Nobody wants what they have to sell.

00:47:50.160 This is the party that gave us silence is violence, right?

00:47:54.240 They're the ones who say that after a mass shooting, after any Republican says or does anything that they don't like.

00:48:01.720 Every other Republican has to be asked about it.

00:48:04.040 Do you denounce, do you denounce, you denounce, like silence is violence.

00:48:07.920 And now they have a guy actually calling for the murder of Republicans and their children, and no Democrat,

00:48:14.980 no Democrat has called for this guy to step down.

00:48:17.040 No, not one prominent Democrat.

00:48:19.380 And yet, and not only that, but you look at the leftist messaging around this guy, Jay Jones, and what actually went down here,

00:48:25.460 and it's lies.

00:48:26.900 It's total, listen, I'm sorry to do this to you, but here's Joy Behar on The View.

00:48:31.240 Listen to what they are peddling.

00:48:32.660 This is 24 hours ago to their audience about this whole scandal, Sot 16.

00:48:38.480 I also, can I mention, because what's come up in this conversation is this individual, Jay Jones,

00:48:43.100 who's running for attorney general in Virginia.

00:48:45.500 He's about a 36-year-old man running for attorney general who had some leaked text messages come out

00:48:50.960 where he aspired to violence against Republicans.

00:48:53.700 I don't know why it's hard for people, and I'm not at this table.

00:48:56.740 I saw that.

00:48:57.240 Let me just say this.

00:48:57.880 But the only Democrats denounced him, no Republicans.

00:49:01.040 He's a Democrat.

00:49:01.940 Yeah, he's a Democrat.

00:49:02.380 That's my point.

00:49:03.060 And the Democrats denounced him.

00:49:04.500 If I can finish my point, denounce both.

00:49:07.580 We don't need to equivocate.

00:49:08.960 We don't need to say, well, he did this, so then Republicans.

00:49:11.060 No, yeah.

00:49:11.760 Both are terrible.

00:49:12.800 Both are equally awful.

00:49:15.260 Okay, so she was too interested in her own point to listen to the inanity coming at her from right field there,

00:49:21.040 that only Democrats denounced Jay Jones, no Republicans, Victor.

00:49:28.680 I don't know what to say.

00:49:30.320 I don't know what to say.

00:49:31.280 I mean, she's completely, she's an ignoramus, but it's so wild.

00:49:37.280 It's just so, it's just so insane.

00:49:40.200 And one thing about all of these people, you mentioned John Bolton, but when Trump is anywhere in the equation,

00:49:49.300 no one ever says, I didn't do what I did.

00:49:54.200 Or, you know, Jack Smith doesn't say, I didn't surveil this phone records, or I didn't get free legal counsel.

00:50:01.260 Or Latita James says, I really didn't do this, I didn't sign this affidavit and lie.

00:50:06.680 And that, and, you know, John, he never says, I didn't really get preferential treatment in my sentencing.

00:50:17.000 And I didn't really exceed the speed limit at 116 miles and endanger people.

00:50:23.660 They never really say, they always say, they bring in Trump somehow.

00:50:27.480 This is inordinate, he's after me, I'm fighting, I'm speaking truth to power.

00:50:31.880 But they never ever just.

00:50:33.300 Or like Bolton, like Bolton.

00:50:34.420 My behavior was lawful.

00:50:36.680 Which is not at all the same thing as, I didn't do it.

00:50:40.760 Not at all.

00:50:41.760 You ask me if I robbed the bank, the answer is no, I didn't do it.

00:50:44.880 I don't say, my behavior was lawful.

00:50:47.820 What?

00:50:48.320 I mean, you put it in that context, it's very obvious what this person's doing.

00:50:52.580 And it's very obvious to me what John Bolton's doing as well.

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00:53:58.520 Okay, before we get to Bolton, let's spend some time on Letitia James, who is out there like, 0.99

00:54:06.260 I am woman, hear me roar, I feel no fear, I am not afraid.

00:54:10.880 She's loving every minute of this.

00:54:12.740 Great.

00:54:13.500 I hope you do love it, because you're probably going to face an amended complaint sometime soon.

00:54:18.540 She's been indicted by Trump for a Virginia property that they allege she lied about when she applied for her mortgage, saying it was going to be her primary residence, and it never was.

00:54:31.140 It was never her primary residence, and she knew that at the time, they allege, that she applied for the mortgage, which would be mortgage fraud.

00:54:37.820 Now, the news hits yesterday and today in a pair of reports, Daily Mail yesterday, New York Post today.

00:54:44.940 Daily Mail yesterday reporting that the person living in the allegedly problematic residence is Tish James' grandniece.

00:54:56.240 So, I think this is her sister's child, Nakia Thompson, along with Thompson's three children.

00:55:02.740 So, she's got great-grandnieces and nephews, and they're living in this three-bedroom property in Norfolk, Virginia, and have been since 2020.

00:55:12.280 Daily Mail discovered that Nakia Thompson is officially listed as abscondor, an abscondor, who's being sought by authorities in North Carolina for failing to finish her probation.

00:55:24.440 On the North Carolina website is an appeal for information leading to her whereabouts, along with a mugshot and an offender number.

00:55:34.320 It is 0898340.

00:55:37.940 The communications director for the North Carolina Department of Corrections says Ms. Thompson was sentenced to probation for misdemeanor convictions for assault and battery.

00:55:46.520 Oh, and trespassing, too, and has willfully avoided probation supervision, and abscondor is considered a fugitive.

00:55:55.960 Thompson faces arrest if she's located in North Carolina.

00:55:59.520 So, Tish James is accused here of harboring a fugitive at her fraudulently mortgaged Virginia property.

00:56:08.700 In 2005, this grandniece, Nakia, was placed on probation in Forsyth County, North Carolina, simple assault.

00:56:16.140 The following year, she was handed a suspended sentence for two counts of assault against a governmental official.

00:56:20.720 In 2011, she was given a suspended sentence for assault and battery and second-degree trespass, again by a court in Forsyth County.

00:56:26.680 This appears to have been the offense for which Thompson became an abscondor.

00:56:30.380 On her Facebook page, she appears to make light of her criminality.

00:56:33.340 One post shows blood spattered on a black background and the words,

00:56:37.520 knick-knacks crime, grand larceny, a crime she was actually charged with, reports the Mail.

00:56:43.200 According to her LinkedIn page, she has worked in various jobs, including a debt collections representative,

00:56:48.880 a stocker at Walmart, and a cashier at Wendy's.

00:56:50.840 In 2018, she worked for Tish James' campaign for four months as a seasonal representative, reads her profile.

00:56:58.620 Okay, let me just finish this up.

00:57:00.280 Today, in the Daily Mail, get a follow-up piece.

00:57:03.340 Sorry, New York Post, follow-up piece of sorts, saying Tish James is housing another felon in her other Virginia property,

00:57:13.640 who also is, I believe, a grandniece.

00:57:17.640 Yes, a grandniece.

00:57:18.560 This one is named Kayla Thompson Hairston, and she is, we believe, the sister of our first star, who I just read about, Nakia.

00:57:28.820 Here she is, Victor.

00:57:30.640 Are you familiar with the website OnlyFans, my friend?

00:57:34.520 Have you heard?

00:57:36.440 No, I have not.

00:57:38.000 Okay.

00:57:39.740 OnlyFans is where girls like this, who want to make some extra dough on their bodies, 1.00

00:57:45.140 go and pose in nothing or next to nothing, and they can make a lot of money doing that.

00:57:51.240 And that's what Letitia James' grandniece is doing, Kayla, not to be confused with Nakia, the fugitive. 0.89

00:58:00.980 Here she is.

00:58:01.820 Here's the Kayla, the other felon, accused felon that she's harboring in her other property.

00:58:08.500 She's 21.

00:58:09.720 She's an OnlyFans star with a public X-rated social media presence.

00:58:13.620 She was charged in April 2024 with lying about her felony criminal record when she tried to buy a gun in Suffolk, Virginia, according to court documents.

00:58:24.860 Kayla was legally disqualified from owning a firearm, reports the New York Post, due to an August 2020 felony charge of malicious wounding.

00:58:32.600 What is that, you might ask?

00:58:33.680 Virginia law defines it as a crime in which a person, quote, shoots, stabs, cuts, or wounds any other person or by any means causes bodily injury with the intent to maim, disfigure, disable, or kill.

00:58:46.180 Since Thompson Harrison was a juvenile at the time, the records are sealed.

00:58:51.000 When she was just 15 years old back in 2019, she was also caught up in the criminal hijinks of her big sister, Nakia.

00:58:58.480 That's the lady at the first property who is a wanted fugitive by the North Carolina authorities. 1.00

00:59:03.080 So somehow she was caught up in Nakia's alleged criminal wrongdoing as well.

00:59:08.920 It sounds like an absolutely lovely family, Victor.

00:59:12.320 Sounds like Letitia James has got all of her ducks in a row. 1.00

00:59:15.500 But let's check in on her messaging.

00:59:17.580 Sop 37.

00:59:31.160 Kissed in the air.

00:59:33.080 Taking in the applause.

00:59:35.360 This is your moment, Tish.

00:59:37.360 We love Tish!

00:59:38.920 We love Tish!

00:59:40.440 We love Tish!

00:59:42.000 We love Tish!

00:59:44.200 Thank you.

00:59:45.920 Thank you so much.

00:59:48.460 I appreciate you, and I've got your back.

00:59:50.640 Okay, that was just the setup.

00:59:59.320 She was at a Zoran Mamdani rally, so of course the crowd loved her.

01:00:03.240 And here's what she said.

01:00:05.100 Sop 38.

01:00:07.480 You see, I know what it feels like to be attacked for just doing your job.

01:00:13.500 But I also know what it feels like to overcome adversity.

01:00:21.620 And so I stand on solid rock.

01:00:31.740 And I will not bow.

01:00:33.960 I will not break.

01:00:35.620 I will not bend.

01:00:37.320 I will not capitulate.

01:00:39.200 I will not give in.

01:00:41.280 I will not give up.

01:00:43.060 You come for me, you gotta come to all of us!

01:01:00.100 Okay.

01:01:02.220 All of us!

01:01:04.220 Every single one of us!

01:01:07.400 We're all in this together!

01:01:10.340 Together!

01:01:10.780 Okay, she's lost her mind.

01:01:13.880 I don't know if we are all in it together,

01:01:16.380 because I'm not harboring a felon and a fugitive, respectively,

01:01:19.560 in my two homes for which I allegedly committed mortgage fraud

01:01:22.960 down in Virginia, Victor.

01:01:24.320 I don't know.

01:01:24.880 Maybe she has a lot of people like that in her constituency. 1.00

01:01:28.200 Not sure.

01:01:29.860 Why is she a victim, though? 0.87

01:01:32.120 She bragged in both of her races, 0.94

01:01:35.280 in her re-election and her original campaign to be attorney general,

01:01:38.140 she said,

01:01:39.260 I have my eye on Trump Tower.

01:01:41.220 She went out and used the law and manipulated it 1.00

01:01:44.040 and then was reversed on the fine, at least,

01:01:46.920 and probably will be on the charge.

01:01:48.860 So it's a matter of fact that there was nothing to her legal case,

01:01:54.300 and she persecuted someone,

01:01:55.860 and she used racialized language when she did it. 1.00

01:01:59.040 And so she's a perpetrator.

01:02:01.540 She's a victimizer. 1.00

01:02:02.560 She's not a victim.

01:02:03.960 And then, you know, the other thing that's really disturbing,

01:02:06.620 when you went through those sentences,

01:02:08.920 why are all these people getting suspended sentences?

01:02:12.140 And I thought it was against the law to knowingly harbor a fugitive.

01:02:17.140 I thought it was a felony.

01:02:18.440 If a person has a writ out and they're in your home and you know that,

01:02:21.800 and they're evading law enforcement,

01:02:24.480 it seems like that is a crime.

01:02:27.360 And I thought if you were a statewide elected officer in New York

01:02:32.580 and you're attorney general,

01:02:33.680 your primary residence had to be in the state.

01:02:36.340 It does.

01:02:36.940 Why doesn't somebody say,

01:02:40.200 if you say that your primary residence is not in the state,

01:02:43.520 then you're liable to recall or dismiss some consequences.

01:02:47.920 But the common theme with all of this is,

01:02:51.180 if I say enough, A, anti-Trump stuff,

01:02:55.940 or if I play the victim or the race or the gender,

01:02:59.140 whatever the card is,

01:03:00.460 then I get an exemption.

01:03:02.300 And I know that it'll work because it's worked in the past.

01:03:05.200 And then it's almost Orwellian just for her to get up there

01:03:10.920 after what she did by distorting and manipulating the law 1.00

01:03:15.360 to go after a political opponent

01:03:17.460 and then to get elected on that basis

01:03:20.200 and then to play that she's a victim and they're going after her

01:03:24.380 and she's got all this criminal exposure and liability 1.00

01:03:27.500 and she hasn't paid one, no price for it.

01:03:31.360 None of her family, they get suspended sentences,

01:03:34.000 they're evading law enforcement.

01:03:35.860 I thought, you know, when they found out,

01:03:39.180 the next scene would be, I don't know,

01:03:41.440 a SWAT team that went after Donald Trump or something.

01:03:44.180 They would show up at the House

01:03:45.440 and they said that we have a warrant out for your arrest

01:03:48.980 and we're going to arrest you.

01:03:50.200 And they didn't even do that, apparently.

01:03:52.040 So I guess the idea that they assume these political officials are,

01:03:58.700 and I guess on the left,

01:04:00.580 that once you stake out this premise

01:04:03.300 that you have been wronged or historically wronged

01:04:08.320 or you're a victim,

01:04:09.660 then any type of behavior is okay

01:04:11.860 and there won't be consequences.

01:04:13.840 And the sad thing is I think they're right.

01:04:16.060 It works.

01:04:17.460 And Mondami is even playing a victim.

01:04:19.260 And so when you get these very affluent people,

01:04:22.980 multiple houses, big salaries,

01:04:25.980 and then they talk as if they're on the barricades

01:04:28.460 and somebody's out to get them,

01:04:30.420 it seems to work, at least with half the population.

01:04:34.360 But it's destroying the country.

01:04:37.280 There's no, nobody has any confidence in the law anymore.

01:04:40.720 They don't feel that justice will be dispensed equally.

01:04:43.780 Look at the two tough law enforcement officials

01:04:45.620 that we just discussed.

01:04:46.660 There's Tish James,

01:04:47.800 who's now accused of committing mortgage fraud in Virginia.

01:04:53.200 And then there's Jay Jones,

01:04:55.180 who wants to be the top law enforcement official of Virginia,

01:04:58.660 who's calling for the murder of Republicans and their children.

01:05:01.720 No wonder people might have their doubts

01:05:03.660 about whether there really are two systems of justice here.

01:05:07.400 And you're so right about Letitia James

01:05:09.660 trying to play the victim here.

01:05:12.600 She's the perpetrator.

01:05:13.800 She all along has been like, I'll get him.

01:05:16.020 She ran for office before we knew whether he'd done anything, 0.72

01:05:19.580 a crime, a civil violation, anything.

01:05:21.360 She was like, just trust me, I'll find the thing.

01:05:24.700 I will get him.

01:05:25.460 And then indeed she did.

01:05:26.980 She dredged up this law that she said he violated,

01:05:29.900 that the court laughed at her for

01:05:32.160 when it was all said and done.

01:05:33.400 Like, what are you talking about?

01:05:34.340 Like this, no one's ever been charged on this.

01:05:36.480 And I think the Supreme Court, if it goes that far,

01:05:38.020 will overrule this conviction

01:05:39.060 because they don't like corruption charges

01:05:41.040 or fraud charges that are made up like this at all.

01:05:43.800 And in any event, she persecuted him.

01:05:46.480 She persecuted him and tried to steal

01:05:48.620 his $500 million business and celebrated it.

01:05:53.900 She wanted us to look at her as like

01:05:55.300 some Joan of Arc character.

01:05:57.080 And now, rather than having the dignity

01:06:00.360 to at least laugh this off and be like,

01:06:02.880 oh, this is Trump.

01:06:04.080 It's retribution.

01:06:05.520 Don't worry.

01:06:06.440 I've got it.

01:06:07.080 She's like, I will.

01:06:10.000 I will not bow.

01:06:11.340 I will not bend.

01:06:13.000 I will not break.

01:06:14.840 Like, leaning into it.

01:06:16.780 Like, I love it.

01:06:17.900 Oh, yes.

01:06:18.640 He's playing into my victim complex.

01:06:21.480 This is the height of achievement

01:06:23.360 for a certain sect of the Democratic Party.

01:06:26.220 Like, oh, my God.

01:06:27.840 I actually get to be a victim.

01:06:29.680 Yeah, and I guess what's tragic about this,

01:06:36.920 because I'm 72, I can remember in my teens

01:06:40.560 at the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s,

01:06:43.080 its theme, what we all heard.

01:06:45.320 I remember my parents grew up from my farm,

01:06:47.560 and I actually heard Martin Luther King speak

01:06:49.460 at Grace Cathedral.

01:06:51.420 And the message originally was that

01:06:53.820 any time you give exemptions to anybody,

01:06:56.920 other than on a meritocratic basis, it's wrong.

01:07:00.660 So there was the old boy white network, 0.97

01:07:03.500 and there was truth to that,

01:07:04.820 that people who are African American

01:07:06.400 were not given a fair shot and a level,

01:07:09.800 I heard that term all the time,

01:07:11.440 all we want is a level playing field.

01:07:13.780 And then 60 years later,

01:07:16.580 these so-called victims and civil rights activists

01:07:20.360 have morphed into exactly what they were,

01:07:23.360 what their grandparents said was wrong.

01:07:25.900 And they are now saying that

01:07:27.920 because even though I haven't suffered anything

01:07:30.040 and I've actually gamed the system,

01:07:32.260 somebody 60 years ago did and before,

01:07:35.920 and therefore I'm going to do the same thing

01:07:38.400 that the old white boy network did.

01:07:41.120 I want exemption, exemption, I'm a victim,

01:07:44.100 and I don't have to go through the regular process

01:07:47.180 of meritocratic evaluation,

01:07:49.100 or I don't have to have the same exposure

01:07:51.080 to the law or the legal system,

01:07:52.920 because I'm a victim.

01:07:54.940 And you wonder when it's going to end.

01:07:57.580 And as I said earlier,

01:07:58.820 economically we'll get to the point

01:08:00.540 where a person's gender or you

01:08:03.600 doesn't really ascertain their class status anymore,

01:08:06.700 at least in a lot of cases.

01:08:09.220 No, I hate to take it back to the view,

01:08:13.880 but I'm going to,

01:08:14.700 because Sunny Hostin is sitting over there.

01:08:16.600 She's a black American who had stellar education,

01:08:21.160 became a well-paid lawyer,

01:08:24.540 became a very well-paid TV personality,

01:08:27.500 guarantee this woman makes over $3 million a year. 0.99

01:08:30.460 She has a huge mansion, 0.87

01:08:31.640 which we've shown before on television.

01:08:33.900 In fact, we should pull that over, guys.

01:08:35.040 Um, she shows it off.

01:08:37.260 She's very,

01:08:37.600 her son just graduated from Harvard.

01:08:39.620 And listen to how she is still talking

01:08:43.260 about her experience in this horrible place

01:08:46.340 she calls America.

01:08:47.420 This is in the response to those few

01:08:50.160 so-called young Republicans on some text chain

01:08:53.160 saying terrible things,

01:08:54.260 racist things and other things.

01:08:55.840 Um, she wants to pretend it's,

01:08:57.420 it's America,

01:08:58.220 it's Republicans in general.

01:09:00.300 Here she is in,

01:09:02.000 with Joy Behar in SOT 17.

01:09:03.380 The Republican Party needs to deal with this.

01:09:07.860 They need to find their better selves,

01:09:10.040 find their better angels.

01:09:11.060 I'm not surprised that that chat exists.

01:09:13.640 I wasn't surprised that men,

01:09:16.720 adults, ages 25 to 34,

01:09:19.380 white men,

01:09:19.920 There were white guys, by the way.

01:09:20.660 Let's just point that out.

01:09:21.700 White men were speaking like that. 0.57

01:09:24.160 Um, you know,

01:09:24.380 they checked every white supremacist bigot box.

01:09:27.920 They were anti-Semitic,

01:09:29.260 they were misogynistic,

01:09:30.820 they were homophobic, 0.86

01:09:31.380 they were racist.

01:09:33.620 My lived experience as an Afro-Latina in this country,

01:09:36.600 makes me tell the uncomfortable truths

01:09:40.160 about this country with real clarity.

01:09:42.980 And that's why I wasn't surprised.

01:09:44.840 Trump's rise, in part,

01:09:46.960 was based in racism and white supremacy.

01:09:50.580 The future of the Republican Party

01:09:53.040 embraces white supremacy.

01:09:55.240 Please believe me the first time

01:09:57.300 and only look at this chat

01:09:59.580 as your proof

01:10:01.200 that it is alive and well

01:10:03.600 in the Republican Party.

01:10:05.800 I see.

01:10:07.060 It's,

01:10:07.980 she's a victim 0.99

01:10:08.780 and Republicans are racist, 0.64

01:10:11.140 notwithstanding the fact that

01:10:12.480 she's made it

01:10:13.600 all the way to the side of the view

01:10:15.040 and is a multimillionaire

01:10:16.260 and her son just graduated from Harvard.

01:10:18.920 But this country's racist

01:10:20.100 and they can't stand black people, 0.66

01:10:22.220 notwithstanding, again,

01:10:23.020 the fact that we just had a black president, 0.79

01:10:24.860 we have black Supreme Court justices,

01:10:26.360 we just had a black vice president,

01:10:27.800 the Democratic nominee was black,

01:10:29.340 the Republicans also ran a black man

01:10:31.880 for the presidency

01:10:33.100 for the nomination,

01:10:33.960 Tim Scott,

01:10:34.400 who didn't wind up getting it,

01:10:35.400 but that's still,

01:10:36.360 we are stuck in Jim Crow, 0.98

01:10:38.040 if you listen to Sonny Hostin.

01:10:39.380 And there's a lot of people on the left,

01:10:43.080 she doesn't think,

01:10:44.120 that have some weird psychological

01:10:45.780 squaring the circle

01:10:47.120 where they,

01:10:48.880 if they feel that a black person

01:10:50.920 is conservative

01:10:51.560 like Clarence Thomas

01:10:52.720 or Winsome Sears,

01:10:54.040 then they get a blank check

01:10:55.080 to use a race card.

01:10:56.060 There was a cartoonist

01:10:57.100 that portrayed Winsome Sears

01:11:00.000 and that was right out of something

01:11:01.400 in 1860s in the South.

01:11:03.680 She had exaggerated lips 0.99

01:11:05.220 and then she was dancing 0.69

01:11:06.500 like she was a minstrel

01:11:08.680 and kind of gesticulating

01:11:10.360 and that didn't come from

01:11:12.620 people on the right.

01:11:14.060 If they are referring

01:11:15.560 to those Republican people

01:11:16.940 on that list,

01:11:18.080 I don't know one major Republican

01:11:19.800 that hasn't condemned it

01:11:20.940 and I think they've been drummed out

01:11:22.660 of whatever official voice they have.

01:11:24.420 Nor have any of us

01:11:25.360 ever heard of these people.

01:11:26.700 No, I've never heard of them.

01:11:27.900 Who ever heard of the names in there?

01:11:29.580 Nobody's ever heard of them

01:11:30.760 but we've heard of her

01:11:32.080 and we've heard of Michelle Obama

01:11:33.840 and we hear all the time

01:11:35.680 race, race,

01:11:36.980 and then it gets,

01:11:38.380 it gets the logical conclusion is

01:11:40.800 what if she doesn't do that?

01:11:42.980 What if she doesn't mention race?

01:11:45.180 What if she's like Tim Scott?

01:11:47.200 Or what if she's like

01:11:48.300 a Republican African American?

01:11:50.800 And then magical things happen.

01:11:53.740 They get into the world

01:11:55.520 of equal opportunity,

01:11:56.720 not for ordained result

01:11:58.420 and they do well,

01:11:59.880 just as well as anybody else

01:12:01.340 and they don't have

01:12:02.600 any victim baggage

01:12:03.660 and that's the big difference

01:12:05.160 between the Republican

01:12:06.080 and the Democrat

01:12:07.120 liberal conservative

01:12:08.120 is that you have

01:12:10.820 a meritocratic process.

01:12:12.460 It reminds me of what Tom saw.

01:12:13.880 I used to have lunch with him

01:12:14.880 twice a month,

01:12:16.020 my colleague,

01:12:16.660 and he'd always say,

01:12:17.560 do you have a good doctor, Victor?

01:12:20.260 Do you go?

01:12:20.620 And I said yes

01:12:21.540 and he said,

01:12:22.660 what he basically said

01:12:24.520 is whatever group

01:12:25.500 was a victim of persecution

01:12:27.760 or prejudice

01:12:28.580 or systematic racism

01:12:30.440 and there were people

01:12:31.600 in that group

01:12:32.640 that didn't get

01:12:33.740 special preference

01:12:34.620 and maybe he would want

01:12:36.220 to find a doctor

01:12:37.220 so he'd always say,

01:12:38.460 you know,

01:12:38.600 some of the best doctors

01:12:39.520 in the United States

01:12:40.320 were African Americans

01:12:41.680 in the 1950s

01:12:43.020 because you had to be

01:12:44.520 on a level playing field

01:12:46.640 and I said,

01:12:47.520 is that true now?

01:12:48.320 And he says,

01:12:48.840 no,

01:12:49.480 maybe I have to find

01:12:50.520 other groups

01:12:51.280 that have been oppressed

01:12:52.600 and therefore they've come,

01:12:55.220 that it's kind of a,

01:12:56.620 he didn't approve of that.

01:12:57.880 He was just remarking

01:12:59.380 on the irony of it

01:13:00.520 and so I don't think

01:13:03.880 it's going to end well

01:13:05.240 for the Democrats

01:13:05.940 and you can see

01:13:07.000 that they know it

01:13:08.000 and they know that

01:13:08.800 they are alienating

01:13:10.480 the population

01:13:11.300 and all of these issues,

01:13:12.820 crime,

01:13:13.300 the border,

01:13:14.200 illegal immigration,

01:13:15.400 they're not polling well

01:13:16.760 and what they have to do

01:13:18.460 is they either have to change,

01:13:20.120 I'll be frank,

01:13:20.860 change the demography

01:13:21.720 in their own words.

01:13:23.420 We have 55,000,

01:13:25.360 55 million people

01:13:26.580 that were not born in America now.

01:13:28.540 It's the highest ever

01:13:29.300 and then percentages too,

01:13:31.080 16%

01:13:31.820 or they have to change the system.

01:13:34.160 They're trying to change

01:13:34.940 the filibuster

01:13:35.740 or the electoral college

01:13:38.440 or the Supreme Court composition

01:13:39.880 or they have to just to create

01:13:41.840 what they're doing now,

01:13:43.020 chaos on the,

01:13:44.160 shut down the government,

01:13:45.680 bomb Tesla,

01:13:47.440 have these riots,

01:13:49.420 create so much chaos

01:13:50.880 that the average American

01:13:52.260 just gets in a fetal position,

01:13:54.580 puts his hands over his ears

01:13:55.920 and say,

01:13:56.300 make it all go away.

01:13:57.200 I don't know who started it.

01:13:58.460 I don't know how it happened

01:13:59.720 but if Trump is involved,

01:14:01.540 let me just get,

01:14:02.420 I just want out of it.

01:14:03.380 I just want calm again.

01:14:04.420 That's their strategy

01:14:05.320 but it's never constructive.

01:14:07.360 It's never,

01:14:08.160 we are individuals.

01:14:09.460 We're going to be judged

01:14:10.380 on our individual merits.

01:14:12.220 We're going to have compassion

01:14:13.240 for those who don't do

01:14:14.280 as well as we

01:14:15.060 but we're not going to mandate equality.

01:14:17.000 They never say that

01:14:17.960 but it comes,

01:14:19.380 they have to have

01:14:20.300 a self-perpetuating victim idea

01:14:22.920 because they don't have confidence

01:14:24.700 that they're going to get

01:14:25.580 the same income,

01:14:27.080 the same privileges

01:14:27.940 if they drop the victim status

01:14:30.800 and that's it.

01:14:31.360 They love it.

01:14:32.020 They revel in it.

01:14:33.440 I mean,

01:14:33.640 we did find the video

01:14:34.720 of Sunny Hostin's house

01:14:35.620 available because

01:14:36.380 she filmed it

01:14:37.360 and put it online.

01:14:38.400 Here it is.

01:14:39.560 Okay,

01:14:39.980 the listening audience,

01:14:41.180 it's a mansion.

01:14:42.660 It's got top of the line

01:14:44.160 cabinetry

01:14:45.020 and tiling

01:14:46.320 and the beautiful

01:14:48.020 wooden staircase

01:14:49.480 leading up to a window seat

01:14:50.940 with all beautiful windows

01:14:54.040 looking out over

01:14:55.200 what was,

01:14:55.960 I'm sure,

01:14:56.280 is a huge lawn.

01:14:57.620 Now,

01:14:58.500 we get like her art.

01:15:00.220 Okay,

01:15:00.580 whatever.

01:15:01.380 So Sunny Hostin

01:15:02.300 has it made

01:15:03.700 in this amazing,

01:15:05.380 beautiful house.

01:15:07.640 Obviously,

01:15:08.320 a multi-million dollar property

01:15:09.920 and yet,

01:15:10.560 she wants you to know

01:15:11.740 that her lived experience

01:15:14.620 as an Afro-Latina

01:15:16.140 in this country

01:15:17.080 is that we are all racist,

01:15:19.040 that she has proof

01:15:20.760 white supremacy

01:15:21.900 is alive

01:15:22.820 and well

01:15:23.780 because of these morons

01:15:25.400 in some group chat

01:15:26.960 who somehow

01:15:28.020 she wants to elevate 1.00

01:15:28.800 to representative

01:15:29.480 of the country

01:15:30.380 and certainly of Republicans.

01:15:31.800 That's her. 0.88

01:15:33.340 She should go to

01:15:34.000 East Palestine, Ohio

01:15:35.180 and tell people that

01:15:36.280 and just say,

01:15:37.080 you know what,

01:15:37.440 you guys are all,

01:15:38.640 you've done all these

01:15:39.580 bad things to me

01:15:40.480 and you're just

01:15:41.280 so well off

01:15:42.400 because of your

01:15:43.000 white privilege.

01:15:43.720 I don't think

01:15:44.620 it's going to sell very well.

01:15:46.540 It's of course

01:15:47.220 not just her.

01:15:48.420 There's,

01:15:48.920 I'll get to Michelle Obama

01:15:50.800 in a second,

01:15:51.200 but there's a guy

01:15:51.760 running for,

01:15:53.240 for the,

01:15:54.580 let's see,

01:15:55.460 it's the main

01:15:56.380 Senate race.

01:15:57.780 Susan Collins

01:15:58.320 has not stated

01:15:58.900 whether she's going

01:15:59.460 to run for re-election.

01:16:00.720 So right now

01:16:01.260 there are eight

01:16:01.780 declared Dems

01:16:02.540 running in the primary

01:16:03.560 and one of them

01:16:05.140 is this guy,

01:16:05.780 Graham Plattner,

01:16:07.640 former Marine infantryman,

01:16:09.500 later served

01:16:10.140 as an Army National Guard

01:16:11.060 soldier

01:16:11.400 and private security

01:16:12.280 contractor.

01:16:13.000 Starts off well.

01:16:13.720 It goes downhill

01:16:14.660 from there.

01:16:15.720 High profile endorsement

01:16:16.720 from Bernie Sanders,

01:16:17.680 outspoken economic populist

01:16:19.980 and the K-files,

01:16:21.740 Andrew Kaczynski

01:16:22.440 of CNN

01:16:23.080 unearthed a bunch

01:16:25.100 of comments

01:16:25.580 he has from

01:16:26.380 an internet

01:16:26.960 like forum subreddits

01:16:28.340 in which he calls

01:16:29.800 himself a communist.

01:16:31.120 He dismissed

01:16:32.160 all police

01:16:33.220 as bastards

01:16:34.060 and said

01:16:35.040 rural white Americans

01:16:36.120 actually are

01:16:37.140 racist

01:16:37.700 and stupid. 0.89

01:16:38.720 and now he's

01:16:40.540 trying to dismiss

01:16:41.280 these

01:16:41.780 as like,

01:16:43.140 oh,

01:16:43.460 I was just

01:16:43.960 disillusioned

01:16:45.640 and angry,

01:16:47.140 you know,

01:16:47.300 kind of like

01:16:47.660 I was younger

01:16:48.280 and they don't

01:16:48.740 really reflect

01:16:49.360 who I am.

01:16:50.600 It was 2021.

01:16:52.460 I'm not sure we can

01:16:54.040 get away with the

01:16:55.040 youthful indiscretion

01:16:56.400 text excuse

01:16:57.840 when it was

01:16:59.040 literally four years

01:17:00.600 ago

01:17:00.940 and he

01:17:02.480 doubled down

01:17:03.020 on them

01:17:03.360 repeatedly.

01:17:04.940 This is,

01:17:06.160 so what she's

01:17:06.840 saying,

01:17:07.480 you know,

01:17:07.820 like,

01:17:08.580 the Republicans

01:17:09.200 are racist. 0.84

01:17:10.800 My lived experience

01:17:12.200 is white supremacy

01:17:13.500 reigns in America

01:17:15.220 and here you have

01:17:15.920 this guy

01:17:16.900 going out there

01:17:17.620 saying

01:17:18.080 white rural

01:17:19.900 Americans

01:17:20.500 are

01:17:21.180 as racist

01:17:22.500 and stupid 0.84

01:17:23.620 as you might think.

01:17:25.220 They're the ones

01:17:26.260 saying the quiet part

01:17:27.920 out loud

01:17:28.720 and

01:17:30.040 showing us

01:17:31.220 what they think

01:17:31.700 of our country.

01:17:32.620 All right,

01:17:32.780 just,

01:17:33.320 I don't want to spend

01:17:33.660 time on this guy

01:17:34.180 because I really do

01:17:34.700 want to get to Michelle Obama

01:17:35.600 and you and I

01:17:35.920 have a lot to go over.

01:17:37.620 A couple weeks ago

01:17:38.580 I did a fact check

01:17:39.560 on the attacks

01:17:40.220 coming down

01:17:40.700 against Charlie.

01:17:42.180 Nicole Hannah-Jones

01:17:42.820 and many others

01:17:43.380 have raised

01:17:43.900 this comment

01:17:45.080 without giving

01:17:46.740 the context

01:17:47.360 where he said,

01:17:48.180 they said,

01:17:48.540 oh,

01:17:48.700 he says black women 0.95

01:17:49.820 don't have the brain

01:17:50.900 processing power

01:17:52.020 to make it

01:17:53.160 in life

01:17:54.020 and that those

01:17:55.680 who went to

01:17:56.120 Ivy League universities

01:17:57.020 stole

01:17:57.860 a white person's

01:17:59.380 spot.

01:18:00.680 Now,

01:18:01.300 that is totally

01:18:02.760 out of context.

01:18:03.600 You have to hear

01:18:04.240 what Charlie

01:18:04.840 actually said

01:18:05.580 because,

01:18:06.140 of course,

01:18:06.480 he was talking

01:18:07.080 about affirmative

01:18:08.480 action.

01:18:09.560 In which,

01:18:10.540 yes,

01:18:10.900 indeed,

01:18:11.600 when it is given

01:18:12.200 to a black 0.95

01:18:12.980 or a brown person 0.58

01:18:13.780 and it's given

01:18:14.880 to them based

01:18:15.340 on skin color,

01:18:16.220 a place in a university,

01:18:18.040 it absolutely is,

01:18:19.240 quote,

01:18:19.660 stealing a spot

01:18:20.400 from either a white

01:18:21.560 or an Asian.

01:18:22.700 And we know that

01:18:23.300 because there was

01:18:23.660 a whole U.S.

01:18:24.220 Supreme Court case

01:18:24.920 in which whites

01:18:26.120 and Asians

01:18:26.600 brought a complaint

01:18:27.940 saying we're the ones

01:18:29.260 being disadvantaged

01:18:30.000 systematically

01:18:30.920 by places like Harvard

01:18:32.040 and it's illegal.

01:18:33.300 It's illegal race 1.00

01:18:34.120 discrimination against us.

01:18:35.160 And the Supreme Court

01:18:36.380 agreed,

01:18:37.400 100% agreed.

01:18:40.040 Here's the Charlie comment

01:18:41.500 and then I'm going to show

01:18:42.320 you what Michelle Obama

01:18:43.100 just said.

01:18:43.980 If we would have said

01:18:44.940 that Joy Reid

01:18:46.180 and Michelle Obama

01:18:47.400 and Sheila Jackson Lee

01:18:49.200 and Katanji Brown Jackson

01:18:50.780 were affirmative action picks,

01:18:52.320 we would have been

01:18:52.900 called the racist.

01:18:55.640 But now they're coming out

01:18:57.080 and they're saying it for us.

01:18:58.740 They're coming out

01:18:59.620 and they're saying,

01:19:00.120 I'm only here

01:19:01.600 because of affirmative action.

01:19:03.060 Yeah, we know.

01:19:04.700 You do not have

01:19:05.740 the brain processing power

01:19:07.040 to otherwise

01:19:07.660 be taken really seriously.

01:19:10.000 You had to go steal

01:19:11.320 a white person's slot

01:19:12.380 to go be taken

01:19:13.300 somewhat seriously.

01:19:14.760 Play cut 52.

01:19:15.860 But I rise today

01:19:16.780 as a clear recipient

01:19:18.680 of affirmative action.

01:19:21.340 And particularly

01:19:21.920 in higher education,

01:19:23.660 I may have been admitted

01:19:24.980 on affirmative action

01:19:26.080 both in terms of being

01:19:27.200 a woman 0.57

01:19:27.600 and a woman of color. 0.66

01:19:29.240 But I can declare

01:19:31.180 that I did not graduate

01:19:32.580 on affirmative action.

01:19:33.900 This is my personal story.

01:19:36.100 It's very obvious to us

01:19:38.100 that you were not smart enough

01:19:39.840 to be able to get in

01:19:40.940 on your own.

01:19:42.220 I couldn't make it

01:19:43.160 on my own,

01:19:43.820 so I needed to make

01:19:44.540 take opportunities

01:19:45.280 from someone more deserving.

01:19:46.640 You know,

01:19:46.880 this is how arrogant

01:19:47.920 Joy Reid and Katanji Brown Jackson

01:19:49.720 and Michelle Obama

01:19:50.480 and Sheila Jackson Lee are.

01:19:51.920 They're so narcissistic,

01:19:53.200 they think this is persuasive.

01:19:56.060 He's 100% right.

01:19:57.220 By the way,

01:19:57.700 Joy Reid went to Harvard.

01:19:58.780 I mean,

01:19:59.300 that's all you really need

01:19:59.980 to know about what a farce

01:20:01.400 affirmative action is.

01:20:02.620 She went to Harvard.

01:20:03.700 Michelle Obama went to Princeton.

01:20:05.460 Sheila Jackson Lee

01:20:06.220 went to Harvard.

01:20:08.200 And Katanji Brown Jackson

01:20:09.760 did too.

01:20:11.080 So Michelle Obama

01:20:11.880 has already admitted

01:20:12.680 before that she got 0.70

01:20:13.600 into Princeton

01:20:14.140 via affirmative action.

01:20:15.360 That's how Charlie knew it.

01:20:17.000 And listen to her.

01:20:18.860 She went on

01:20:19.420 the Lewis Howes podcast.

01:20:21.140 It was released in May

01:20:22.400 of 2025,

01:20:23.380 but they cut

01:20:24.340 a shorter version

01:20:25.300 and re-released

01:20:26.240 parts of it

01:20:26.960 just now,

01:20:27.700 which is how it caught

01:20:28.320 our attention.

01:20:29.240 And listen to what

01:20:30.580 Michelle Obama

01:20:31.460 says about that experience

01:20:33.440 in SOT 29.

01:20:35.620 I wasn't a great test taker.

01:20:37.240 I was a great grade getter,

01:20:38.940 but I wasn't good

01:20:40.040 on SAT.

01:20:40.920 So I had good grades,

01:20:42.120 not great scores.

01:20:43.280 So all the scores said,

01:20:44.880 you don't belong

01:20:45.800 at Princeton.

01:20:46.880 And there were people

01:20:47.740 who saw me,

01:20:49.020 saw the color of my skin

01:20:50.100 and said,

01:20:50.580 you're aiming too high.

01:20:52.100 Can you imagine

01:20:52.820 going to these schools

01:20:54.060 being told

01:20:55.740 that you're not ready?

01:20:57.320 And that was

01:20:58.280 my first insecurity

01:20:59.660 of thinking,

01:21:00.380 well,

01:21:00.480 maybe I don't belong here.

01:21:02.320 And that's the world

01:21:03.140 telling you

01:21:03.760 that you don't belong.

01:21:04.660 Even though it's like,

01:21:05.420 well,

01:21:05.600 all my experiences

01:21:06.660 up until this point

01:21:07.780 say that,

01:21:08.420 why wouldn't I belong here?

01:21:10.260 So how did you overcome

01:21:11.160 that belief

01:21:12.180 that you don't belong

01:21:13.060 or that other people

01:21:14.180 are telling you

01:21:14.800 you don't belong?

01:21:15.920 I got there

01:21:16.880 and I looked around

01:21:17.680 and went,

01:21:18.300 oh my God.

01:21:19.520 Sat in a few classes.

01:21:20.660 Sat in a few classes

01:21:21.420 and sort of realized

01:21:22.920 that affirmative action

01:21:24.060 isn't just the color

01:21:25.120 of your skin,

01:21:25.840 but there were a lot of kids

01:21:26.740 that were legacy kids.

01:21:28.160 They were athletes.

01:21:29.240 They were,

01:21:29.620 it was like,

01:21:30.200 and then you sit in class

01:21:31.420 with people,

01:21:32.160 a lot of bright people,

01:21:33.380 but there were a lot of people

01:21:34.580 that were just,

01:21:36.500 so you wonder,

01:21:37.300 well,

01:21:37.400 how'd you get here?

01:21:39.840 Okay.

01:21:41.120 So there she is

01:21:42.760 saying almost exactly

01:21:44.200 what Charlie said,

01:21:45.700 that she did not

01:21:46.740 have the scores.

01:21:47.920 Another way of saying

01:21:48.960 it would be brain power.

01:21:50.280 It is an aptitude

01:21:51.240 test to get into

01:21:52.880 Princeton on her own,

01:21:54.500 that they had to lower

01:21:55.400 the standards for her

01:21:56.560 and they were willing

01:21:57.760 to do that

01:21:58.360 because of the color

01:21:59.100 of her skin,

01:21:59.800 but she changes it

01:22:01.560 to the color

01:22:02.840 of her skin

01:22:03.840 led people to believe

01:22:05.420 she didn't belong 0.99

01:22:06.440 at Princeton.

01:22:07.160 No,

01:22:07.780 the color of her skin

01:22:08.880 is the reason

01:22:09.600 she got into Princeton

01:22:11.240 and got a lifetime

01:22:12.780 of advantages

01:22:14.100 that she's still

01:22:15.800 living high on the hog

01:22:16.840 from,

01:22:17.120 but she's still 1.00

01:22:18.400 bitter about it,

01:22:19.960 Victor still

01:22:20.960 to this day

01:22:21.580 and Charlie's

01:22:22.380 being called

01:22:22.740 a racist

01:22:23.180 for saying

01:22:24.080 exactly what

01:22:24.980 she said

01:22:25.420 in that clip.

01:22:26.800 Yeah,

01:22:27.380 and you know,

01:22:27.860 it's weird.

01:22:28.600 I've spent

01:22:29.280 over 50 years

01:22:30.740 in academia

01:22:31.320 and a number

01:22:32.440 of institutions

01:22:33.180 and I can tell you

01:22:34.680 that among the faculty,

01:22:36.620 one of the greatest

01:22:37.380 criticisms is

01:22:39.040 that they do

01:22:40.300 let in legacies.

01:22:41.460 A lot of the legacies

01:22:42.140 are very qualified,

01:22:43.080 but they do let

01:22:43.940 in legacies.

01:22:45.020 So she says,

01:22:45.940 well,

01:22:46.480 there are all

01:22:46.880 these legacies here

01:22:47.840 and everybody

01:22:48.280 doesn't,

01:22:48.880 and that's

01:22:49.680 as criticized

01:22:50.700 as affirmative action.

01:22:52.160 And I can tell you

01:22:53.360 in the CSU system

01:22:55.060 that I taught in,

01:22:55.840 I would get calls

01:22:56.760 from coaches

01:22:57.380 and say,

01:22:57.920 Victor,

01:22:59.100 this guy

01:22:59.740 is middle linebacker

01:23:01.180 or this guy,

01:23:02.220 I don't know

01:23:02.580 how he ended up

01:23:03.280 in your class,

01:23:04.200 but you've got

01:23:05.920 to do something

01:23:06.600 and he couldn't

01:23:07.560 do the work

01:23:08.140 and you'd say,

01:23:08.880 no,

01:23:09.660 you go talk

01:23:10.220 to the administrator

01:23:10.820 and get him out.

01:23:11.440 I'm not going to do it.

01:23:12.140 He's going to get an F.

01:23:12.900 But the point

01:23:13.500 I'm making is

01:23:14.300 that people

01:23:15.620 have always objected

01:23:17.200 to athletes

01:23:18.000 who can't do the work

01:23:19.400 but get exemptions

01:23:21.160 or rich kids

01:23:22.260 that their parents

01:23:23.140 get in

01:23:23.560 or people

01:23:24.240 who get in

01:23:24.960 on their color.

01:23:26.480 But what she's saying

01:23:27.300 is,

01:23:28.160 well,

01:23:28.380 I got in here

01:23:29.260 and I found out

01:23:30.700 that the guys,

01:23:31.760 some of the legacies

01:23:32.660 and the athletes

01:23:33.260 were no better qualified

01:23:34.360 than I was.

01:23:35.000 Well,

01:23:35.200 yeah,

01:23:35.480 that's true,

01:23:36.280 but that's not

01:23:37.060 a justification for it.

01:23:39.340 People criticize

01:23:40.340 that all the time.

01:23:41.520 You know,

01:23:42.420 the late Christopher Hitchens,

01:23:44.940 I knew pretty well.

01:23:46.160 He was a man of the left

01:23:47.120 and he had written

01:23:48.140 about her

01:23:48.780 Princeton senior thesis.

01:23:51.740 So,

01:23:52.500 I knew him pretty well

01:23:53.860 and he called me up

01:23:54.560 and he sent it to me,

01:23:55.760 you know,

01:23:56.040 PDF.

01:23:57.120 And I could not

01:23:58.520 understand it.

01:23:59.460 I'm not kidding you.

01:24:00.300 It was written

01:24:00.700 in some language

01:24:01.620 that I was not familiar with.

01:24:03.100 It was all this

01:24:03.780 fake postmodern,

01:24:05.680 it was all about

01:24:06.580 oppression

01:24:07.880 and how alumni

01:24:08.800 had to help out

01:24:09.720 black stoop,

01:24:10.380 but it was all

01:24:11.180 it was very,

01:24:12.940 it was unreadable

01:24:13.900 and as someone

01:24:15.360 who taught

01:24:15.980 both at places

01:24:17.120 that were considered

01:24:18.340 prestigious

01:24:19.000 and not prestigious,

01:24:20.020 I could tell you

01:24:21.220 that that would not

01:24:22.120 have qualified.

01:24:23.900 So,

01:24:24.160 when she says,

01:24:24.720 when I got there,

01:24:25.920 I felt like,

01:24:27.660 why are they picking on me?

01:24:29.080 Well,

01:24:29.380 they've been picking

01:24:29.880 on everybody

01:24:30.500 who didn't get

01:24:32.220 the requisite

01:24:33.260 SAT scores.

01:24:35.040 And I can tell you,

01:24:36.000 when I graduated

01:24:36.960 from college

01:24:38.360 and I knew

01:24:39.160 that I wanted

01:24:40.200 to go to

01:24:40.640 Stanford University's

01:24:41.680 PhD program

01:24:42.540 and they had

01:24:43.160 the LSAT

01:24:43.920 and I knew

01:24:45.520 that you had

01:24:46.040 to get almost

01:24:46.520 a perfect score

01:24:47.340 to get in,

01:24:48.080 even though

01:24:48.620 all your grades

01:24:49.760 could be perfect.

01:24:50.940 You could have

01:24:51.340 four years of Latin

01:24:52.160 for,

01:24:52.620 so what did I do?

01:24:54.040 I did what

01:24:54.500 everybody else did.

01:24:55.620 I got about

01:24:56.200 six books

01:24:56.880 on the LSAT

01:24:57.700 and I studied

01:24:59.040 for about

01:24:59.600 50 weeks

01:25:01.200 for my whole

01:25:02.160 senior year

01:25:02.780 and I remember

01:25:03.260 I had little

01:25:03.740 note cards

01:25:04.500 I carried around

01:25:05.360 everywhere with me

01:25:06.640 and I would

01:25:07.540 flip them,

01:25:08.100 you know,

01:25:08.240 there are all

01:25:08.480 these words

01:25:08.980 we never use

01:25:10.000 but if they're

01:25:10.680 on the test

01:25:11.340 and if you can

01:25:12.240 identify them

01:25:12.980 then suddenly

01:25:13.500 you're considered

01:25:14.140 a good test taker.

01:25:15.780 So the point is

01:25:16.560 she says

01:25:16.860 I'm never

01:25:17.180 a good test taker

01:25:18.000 well then

01:25:18.320 improve on it

01:25:19.200 but she is 1.00

01:25:20.200 naturally bright

01:25:21.040 but it's always

01:25:22.080 the tests

01:25:24.180 were,

01:25:24.900 so,

01:25:25.460 and,

01:25:25.640 you know,

01:25:26.200 statistically

01:25:26.860 African American

01:25:27.900 applicants

01:25:28.580 who are admitted

01:25:29.800 often range

01:25:31.320 between

01:25:31.700 150

01:25:32.440 to 200

01:25:33.820 points

01:25:34.420 lower than

01:25:35.340 whites

01:25:35.680 who are

01:25:36.140 admitted

01:25:36.440 about

01:25:36.840 30

01:25:37.280 to 50

01:25:37.760 points

01:25:38.200 lower

01:25:38.480 than

01:25:38.700 Asian

01:25:39.040 Americans

01:25:39.580 so

01:25:40.360 we all

01:25:40.860 know

01:25:41.100 that

01:25:41.480 and

01:25:42.120 that's

01:25:42.520 not

01:25:42.680 the end

01:25:43.120 of it

01:25:43.460 Michelle

01:25:43.840 when you

01:25:44.540 have a

01:25:45.180 university

01:25:45.760 whether it's

01:25:46.680 legacy

01:25:47.080 or athletes

01:25:48.000 but

01:25:48.680 much more

01:25:49.760 numbers

01:25:50.220 of DEI

01:25:50.940 then you

01:25:51.340 that's

01:25:51.700 the beginning

01:25:52.560 of it

01:25:52.980 so then

01:25:53.560 the faculty

01:25:54.140 who are all

01:25:54.700 left say

01:25:55.260 if you talk

01:25:56.020 to them

01:25:56.280 off the record

01:25:57.000 and I used

01:25:58.340 to all the

01:25:58.880 time

01:25:59.120 as a faculty

01:25:59.960 member

01:26:00.340 well we only

01:26:01.300 have three

01:26:01.720 choices

01:26:02.180 we either

01:26:02.960 have to lower

01:26:03.560 the amount

01:26:03.960 of work

01:26:04.480 required

01:26:05.340 because we

01:26:05.780 have too

01:26:06.040 many students

01:26:06.640 that weren't

01:26:07.020 prepared

01:26:07.460 or we have

01:26:09.080 to introduce

01:26:09.540 new courses

01:26:10.440 or the

01:26:11.900 favored route

01:26:12.540 we're going

01:26:12.880 to change

01:26:13.300 our grading

01:26:13.820 so Yale

01:26:14.640 gives 80%

01:26:15.720 of A's 0.83

01:26:16.240 Stanford's

01:26:16.740 about 70%

01:26:17.680 of A's 0.83

01:26:18.200 and then

01:26:18.760 that's not

01:26:19.320 the end

01:26:20.480 of it

01:26:20.700 then you

01:26:21.040 get people

01:26:21.480 in Silicon

01:26:21.980 Valley

01:26:22.440 you meet

01:26:22.980 and they'll

01:26:23.260 say

01:26:23.560 hey Victor

01:26:24.500 you know

01:26:24.760 this is

01:26:25.160 really weird

01:26:25.860 Stanford

01:26:26.700 used to

01:26:27.080 have the

01:26:27.380 SAT

01:26:27.760 they dropped

01:26:28.300 it for

01:26:28.580 four years

01:26:29.240 and I've

01:26:31.220 noticed

01:26:31.600 that coders 1.00

01:26:32.400 are people

01:26:32.980 in computer

01:26:33.460 science

01:26:34.100 are people

01:26:34.780 in the

01:26:37.100 humanities

01:26:37.640 I would

01:26:38.300 rather hire

01:26:38.900 someone from

01:26:39.580 Southern Methodist

01:26:40.580 or Georgia Tech

01:26:41.720 or SMU

01:26:43.620 than I would

01:26:44.200 Stanford graduate

01:26:44.980 the last

01:26:45.460 anybody

01:26:46.000 the last

01:26:46.500 four years

01:26:47.120 and then you

01:26:47.880 say well why

01:26:48.680 because they

01:26:49.780 don't have

01:26:50.320 the compositional

01:26:51.160 skills

01:26:51.760 or the

01:26:52.180 training

01:26:52.600 that other

01:26:53.280 people

01:26:53.680 from these

01:26:54.540 Southern

01:26:54.820 universities

01:26:55.360 do

01:26:55.880 of all

01:26:56.700 colors

01:26:57.120 nothing to

01:26:57.580 do with

01:26:57.800 race

01:26:58.280 and more

01:26:59.040 importantly

01:26:59.480 when they

01:27:00.240 come to

01:27:00.640 workforce

01:27:01.060 they go

01:27:01.400 right to

01:27:01.780 HR

01:27:02.240 and complain

01:27:03.300 and I

01:27:03.980 would rather

01:27:04.280 have somebody

01:27:04.860 who was quiet

01:27:05.600 and qualified

01:27:06.300 rather than

01:27:07.080 somebody who

01:27:07.820 had to

01:27:08.260 complain

01:27:08.720 about me

01:27:09.860 or my

01:27:10.240 company

01:27:10.640 or working

01:27:11.140 she's still

01:27:11.980 complaining

01:27:12.720 like can you

01:27:13.780 imagine I

01:27:14.440 would have

01:27:14.760 loved to have

01:27:15.500 gotten into

01:27:15.940 Princeton

01:27:16.420 that would

01:27:16.780 have been

01:27:16.960 so amazing

01:27:17.620 I loved

01:27:18.160 Princeton

01:27:18.580 so much

01:27:19.200 we spent

01:27:19.940 some time

01:27:20.380 there just

01:27:20.680 visiting one

01:27:21.200 time

01:27:21.440 I would

01:27:22.160 have loved

01:27:22.660 to have

01:27:22.920 gotten into

01:27:23.260 Princeton

01:27:23.500 I couldn't

01:27:23.880 get into

01:27:24.180 Princeton

01:27:24.600 because my

01:27:25.100 grades weren't

01:27:25.620 good enough

01:27:25.960 and my

01:27:26.280 SATs

01:27:26.780 weren't

01:27:27.000 good enough

01:27:27.380 and nobody

01:27:28.120 was doing

01:27:28.460 affirmative

01:27:28.820 action for

01:27:29.480 white girls 0.98

01:27:30.020 from upstate

01:27:30.600 New York

01:27:31.000 if I had

01:27:32.540 been given

01:27:32.880 that opportunity

01:27:33.460 I would be

01:27:34.040 grateful to

01:27:34.580 this day

01:27:35.120 grateful to

01:27:36.220 this day

01:27:36.600 she's still

01:27:37.500 bitter

01:27:37.840 she's talking

01:27:38.740 about how

01:27:39.180 people looked

01:27:39.820 at her

01:27:40.100 and said

01:27:40.380 because of

01:27:40.820 her skin

01:27:41.240 color

01:27:41.520 she didn't

01:27:42.000 belong

01:27:42.420 I don't

01:27:43.080 believe that

01:27:43.640 I don't

01:27:44.200 believe that

01:27:44.480 for one

01:27:44.740 second

01:27:44.880 they looked

01:27:45.280 at her

01:27:45.500 and said

01:27:45.720 because of

01:27:46.100 your skin

01:27:46.420 color

01:27:46.700 we'll let

01:27:47.400 you right

01:27:47.800 in

01:27:48.020 here's the

01:27:48.580 door

01:27:49.200 it's wide

01:27:49.720 open

01:27:50.000 come on

01:27:50.500 in

01:27:50.680 but she's 0.97

01:27:51.360 got to

01:27:51.620 twist it

01:27:52.300 I can tell

01:27:53.740 you that

01:27:54.120 because

01:27:54.620 for 21

01:27:55.860 years I'd

01:27:56.400 have

01:27:56.560 graduates

01:27:57.040 in

01:27:57.280 classics

01:27:57.660 from

01:27:58.380 not a

01:27:59.380 competitive

01:27:59.780 school

01:28:00.240 a California

01:28:00.740 State

01:28:01.060 University

01:28:01.540 school

01:28:02.020 and they

01:28:02.800 wanted to

01:28:03.180 go to

01:28:03.380 the Ivy

01:28:03.760 League

01:28:04.100 so they

01:28:04.540 had to

01:28:04.840 have a

01:28:05.340 greater

01:28:05.620 degree

01:28:06.180 and

01:28:06.360 master's

01:28:07.020 degree

01:28:07.280 in

01:28:07.520 classics

01:28:07.940 and more

01:28:08.800 importantly

01:28:09.200 when I

01:28:09.520 would

01:28:09.680 they would

01:28:10.520 apply to

01:28:10.920 graduate

01:28:11.260 school

01:28:11.740 most of

01:28:13.540 my students

01:28:14.000 were minorities

01:28:14.640 but I

01:28:14.920 had three

01:28:15.200 or four

01:28:15.480 white males

01:28:16.100 and I'd

01:28:16.420 always say

01:28:16.840 to them

01:28:17.160 you have

01:28:18.000 to have

01:28:18.200 a perfect

01:28:18.640 SAT

01:28:19.100 you have

01:28:20.280 to have

01:28:20.480 a perfect

01:28:20.900 SAT

01:28:21.380 and you're

01:28:22.820 going to

01:28:23.200 have to

01:28:23.540 have a

01:28:24.780 perfect

01:28:25.160 grade

01:28:25.660 and you're

01:28:26.060 still not

01:28:26.420 going to

01:28:26.620 get in

01:28:27.000 unless we

01:28:27.640 and then

01:28:29.100 I would

01:28:29.480 get a

01:28:29.700 this is a

01:28:30.180 true story

01:28:30.620 a guy

01:28:30.860 called me

01:28:31.280 up and

01:28:31.600 said

01:28:31.840 we let

01:28:34.500 in one

01:28:34.860 of your

01:28:35.120 students

01:28:35.480 he was

01:28:35.720 brilliant

01:28:36.200 Latino

01:28:36.660 student

01:28:37.160 I

01:28:37.480 tutored

01:28:37.780 him

01:28:37.960 and he

01:28:38.240 called up

01:28:38.720 and said

01:28:39.180 I find

01:28:40.560 out

01:28:40.860 is it

01:28:41.220 true

01:28:41.440 that he

01:28:41.720 is not

01:28:42.280 legal

01:28:43.060 and I

01:28:44.120 said

01:28:44.340 I don't

01:28:44.780 know

01:28:45.080 so I

01:28:45.580 asked him

01:28:46.000 and he

01:28:46.180 said

01:28:46.360 no I'm

01:28:46.740 illegal

01:28:47.040 I didn't

01:28:47.460 know it

01:28:47.880 and then

01:28:48.980 I called

01:28:49.340 back

01:28:49.580 and they

01:28:49.960 said

01:28:50.240 no he's

01:28:50.840 not

01:28:51.020 illegal

01:28:51.340 they were

01:28:51.720 not

01:28:51.960 calling

01:28:52.320 me

01:28:52.660 because

01:28:53.280 they were

01:28:53.620 worried

01:28:54.020 they were

01:28:54.520 hoping

01:28:54.960 that he

01:28:55.300 was

01:28:55.440 illegal

01:28:55.800 and I

01:28:56.220 said

01:28:56.540 that

01:28:56.800 they

01:28:57.240 said

01:28:57.520 oh my

01:28:57.960 gosh

01:28:58.300 this is

01:28:58.680 great

01:28:58.920 we have

01:28:59.180 an

01:28:59.320 illegal

01:28:59.740 alien

01:29:00.220 who's

01:29:00.580 going

01:29:00.780 to be

01:29:01.000 a

01:29:01.120 classic

01:29:01.500 PhD

01:29:01.980 I

01:29:02.420 said

01:29:02.620 yes

01:29:02.980 and

01:29:03.680 so

01:29:04.100 and I

01:29:04.560 had

01:29:04.760 African

01:29:05.180 American

01:29:05.580 students

01:29:06.140 I

01:29:06.380 African

01:29:06.880 American

01:29:07.240 students

01:29:08.140 that were

01:29:08.620 as good

01:29:09.100 or no

01:29:10.260 better

01:29:10.520 no worse

01:29:11.100 than white

01:29:11.540 male

01:29:11.760 students

01:29:12.160 and I

01:29:13.260 would get

01:29:13.540 all the

01:29:13.860 people in

01:29:14.220 the room

01:29:14.520 and I'd

01:29:14.860 say

01:29:15.100 these

01:29:15.420 I get

01:29:15.980 four or

01:29:16.340 five

01:29:16.540 who were

01:29:16.740 applying

01:29:17.080 and I'd

01:29:17.480 say

01:29:17.720 this person

01:29:19.200 is African

01:29:19.780 American

01:29:20.260 she's

01:29:20.760 going to

01:29:21.180 be

01:29:21.520 admitted

01:29:21.920 to

01:29:22.320 Princeton

01:29:22.800 Yale

01:29:23.200 and you're

01:29:23.600 not

01:29:23.900 it's

01:29:24.100 just a

01:29:24.420 fact

01:29:24.860 unless

01:29:25.920 you can

01:29:26.440 tell me

01:29:26.840 and then

01:29:27.760 to hear

01:29:28.360 from the

01:29:28.720 administration

01:29:29.320 or the

01:29:29.720 faculty

01:29:30.080 that wasn't

01:29:30.700 true

01:29:31.020 when they

01:29:31.700 knew it

01:29:32.120 was true

01:29:32.640 and that's

01:29:33.480 what's so

01:29:33.820 bad about

01:29:34.380 it

01:29:34.520 they lie

01:29:36.380 and then

01:29:36.960 finally

01:29:37.340 even their

01:29:37.940 own

01:29:38.120 standards

01:29:38.540 so what

01:29:38.920 happens

01:29:39.360 Yale

01:29:39.900 Stanford

01:29:40.520 last year

01:29:41.340 reinstitute

01:29:42.080 very quietly

01:29:43.140 very loudly

01:29:44.200 they got

01:29:44.620 rid of

01:29:44.960 the SAT

01:29:45.480 and now

01:29:46.700 very quietly

01:29:47.560 they're letting

01:29:48.220 it in

01:29:48.680 and the

01:29:49.300 reason

01:29:49.620 because people

01:29:50.280 were not

01:29:50.660 succeeding

01:29:51.120 they were

01:29:52.360 two standard

01:29:53.220 deviations

01:29:53.860 below the

01:29:54.300 average SAT

01:29:54.960 score of the

01:29:55.480 other students

01:29:56.060 and they

01:29:56.440 were failing

01:29:57.000 wait I've

01:29:57.820 got to get

01:29:58.120 to one

01:29:58.400 other

01:29:58.580 because

01:29:58.960 she went

01:30:00.040 on

01:30:00.400 her

01:30:01.460 bitterness

01:30:01.800 does not

01:30:02.340 stop

01:30:02.780 with the

01:30:03.840 fact that

01:30:04.320 she got

01:30:04.720 into

01:30:04.980 Princeton

01:30:05.440 in her

01:30:07.100 imagination

01:30:08.040 someone

01:30:08.660 begrudged

01:30:09.320 her

01:30:09.580 the spot

01:30:10.160 or didn't

01:30:10.500 think she

01:30:10.820 belonged

01:30:11.160 there

01:30:11.400 P.S.

01:30:11.800 you didn't

01:30:12.380 I didn't

01:30:12.960 belong there

01:30:13.340 either

01:30:13.540 I don't

01:30:14.340 think it's

01:30:14.980 because I'm

01:30:15.380 a woman 0.57

01:30:15.720 I didn't

01:30:16.800 score high

01:30:17.400 enough

01:30:17.660 that's why

01:30:18.040 I didn't

01:30:18.260 belong

01:30:18.500 there

01:30:18.760 in any

01:30:19.780 event

01:30:19.980 she's

01:30:20.940 also

01:30:21.320 as we

01:30:21.820 know

01:30:22.100 still

01:30:22.720 very

01:30:23.600 bitter

01:30:23.880 about

01:30:24.360 the

01:30:24.580 country

01:30:24.980 and her

01:30:25.860 time

01:30:26.120 in the

01:30:26.320 White

01:30:26.480 House

01:30:26.760 and you

01:30:27.580 would

01:30:27.720 think

01:30:28.020 I mean

01:30:28.280 if you're

01:30:28.500 Michelle

01:30:28.740 Obama

01:30:29.080 you're

01:30:29.420 universally

01:30:29.920 beloved

01:30:30.360 you know

01:30:31.220 you call

01:30:31.820 your book

01:30:32.220 becoming

01:30:32.860 you're on

01:30:33.440 the cover

01:30:35.440 coming

01:30:35.680 I'm so

01:30:36.020 beautiful

01:30:36.360 everybody

01:30:36.700 wants to

01:30:37.080 be with

01:30:37.300 me

01:30:37.460 she talks

01:30:38.160 about how

01:30:38.420 people line

01:30:38.980 up to see

01:30:39.560 her at

01:30:40.300 these public

01:30:40.680 events

01:30:41.060 how wherever

01:30:41.760 she goes

01:30:42.080 out to

01:30:42.340 eat

01:30:42.560 everyone's

01:30:43.000 staring at

01:30:43.500 her and

01:30:43.780 Barack

01:30:44.120 they're the

01:30:44.840 topic of

01:30:45.220 conversation

01:30:45.720 at every

01:30:46.260 restaurant

01:30:46.580 they go

01:30:46.980 to

01:30:47.240 it's so

01:30:48.440 difficult

01:30:48.780 to be

01:30:49.020 Michelle

01:30:49.400 because

01:30:50.020 you're

01:30:50.180 just so

01:30:50.580 super

01:30:50.820 famous

01:30:51.140 and everyone

01:30:51.680 loves you

01:30:52.160 and you

01:30:52.900 would think

01:30:53.280 after being

01:30:53.800 first lady 0.89

01:30:54.320 for eight

01:30:54.800 years

01:30:55.020 you would

01:30:55.240 say

01:30:55.500 I'm just

01:30:56.380 so damn

01:30:56.960 lucky to

01:30:57.540 have been

01:30:57.780 born in

01:30:58.080 the United

01:30:58.320 States of

01:30:58.720 America

01:30:59.040 where I

01:30:59.600 could go

01:30:59.860 from living

01:31:00.360 growing up

01:31:01.120 in relative

01:31:01.520 poverty

01:31:02.040 and sharing

01:31:02.780 a room

01:31:03.060 with my

01:31:03.340 brother

01:31:03.640 on the

01:31:05.100 south side

01:31:05.460 of Chicago

01:31:05.860 and could

01:31:06.380 go up to

01:31:06.840 become the

01:31:07.260 first lady 0.89

01:31:07.740 of the

01:31:07.900 United States

01:31:08.440 and married

01:31:08.860 to the

01:31:09.280 center of

01:31:09.940 power

01:31:10.260 and living

01:31:10.560 in the

01:31:10.760 White House

01:31:10.960 like I

01:31:11.840 love this

01:31:12.260 country

01:31:12.480 I'm so

01:31:12.880 grateful

01:31:13.180 for what

01:31:13.740 it's

01:31:13.860 given me

01:31:14.400 and given

01:31:14.760 my

01:31:14.940 daughters

01:31:15.440 no

01:31:17.020 this is

01:31:17.720 how she

01:31:18.320 sounded

01:31:18.680 on that

01:31:19.260 same

01:31:19.500 podcast

01:31:19.900 the

01:31:20.100 Lewis

01:31:20.320 Howes

01:31:20.640 show

01:31:21.100 South

01:31:21.740 30

01:31:21.980 the

01:31:23.380 White House

01:31:23.980 is just

01:31:24.600 another

01:31:25.080 Princeton

01:31:25.600 right

01:31:26.120 really

01:31:26.680 and the

01:31:27.040 experience

01:31:27.620 was just

01:31:28.160 the same

01:31:28.620 you have

01:31:29.040 a lot

01:31:29.440 of people

01:31:29.800 saying

01:31:30.200 that there's

01:31:30.620 no way

01:31:31.140 that this

01:31:31.520 black

01:31:31.840 couple

01:31:32.320 is capable

01:31:33.860 of

01:31:34.680 representing

01:31:35.420 our

01:31:35.840 country

01:31:36.320 you know

01:31:37.220 they

01:31:37.700 they are

01:31:38.200 not

01:31:38.460 patriotic

01:31:39.260 look at

01:31:39.760 their fist

01:31:40.220 bump

01:31:40.580 you know

01:31:41.820 did

01:31:42.320 did she

01:31:42.840 really

01:31:43.240 get into

01:31:43.700 Princeton

01:31:44.100 is he

01:31:44.700 really

01:31:45.040 from

01:31:45.340 this

01:31:45.580 country

01:31:46.040 you know

01:31:46.700 did he

01:31:47.480 really

01:31:47.900 go to

01:31:48.360 Harvard

01:31:48.740 is his

01:31:49.540 you know

01:31:50.020 it's the

01:31:50.640 it's the

01:31:51.340 same

01:31:51.600 kind

01:31:51.920 of

01:31:52.060 let

01:31:52.460 because

01:31:53.040 we

01:31:53.400 can't

01:31:53.880 see

01:31:54.040 past

01:31:54.420 our

01:31:54.680 own

01:31:54.940 prejudice

01:31:55.400 let's

01:31:56.740 question

01:31:57.540 because

01:31:58.480 we were

01:31:58.940 told

01:31:59.380 that there

01:31:59.820 is an

01:32:00.120 order

01:32:00.520 and that

01:32:01.360 you don't

01:32:01.780 belong

01:32:02.120 at the

01:32:02.420 top

01:32:02.860 you know

01:32:03.880 and what

01:32:04.360 I soon

01:32:04.820 realized

01:32:05.400 is that's

01:32:06.000 not about

01:32:06.540 me

01:32:07.040 that's

01:32:07.780 about

01:32:08.080 them

01:32:08.720 them

01:32:10.500 okay

01:32:10.820 them

01:32:11.300 who

01:32:11.820 said

01:32:12.740 that

01:32:13.080 honestly

01:32:13.780 Victor

01:32:14.060 the

01:32:14.240 nobody

01:32:15.220 said

01:32:15.600 questioning

01:32:16.180 whether

01:32:16.460 we're

01:32:16.660 patriotic

01:32:17.180 she

01:32:17.800 literally

01:32:18.180 said

01:32:18.480 for the

01:32:18.740 first

01:32:18.900 time

01:32:19.220 I

01:32:19.880 was

01:32:20.040 proud

01:32:20.260 of

01:32:20.340 my

01:32:20.460 country

01:32:20.680 first

01:32:21.020 time

01:32:21.220 in my

01:32:21.460 adult

01:32:21.720 life

01:32:22.040 when

01:32:22.500 they

01:32:22.620 nominated

01:32:23.000 Barack

01:32:23.300 Obama

01:32:23.580 I

01:32:23.780 was

01:32:23.920 proud

01:32:24.100 of

01:32:24.180 my

01:32:24.320 country

01:32:24.640 she'd 0.61

01:32:24.920 never

01:32:25.220 been

01:32:25.420 proud

01:32:25.760 of

01:32:25.860 her

01:32:25.940 country

01:32:26.160 before

01:32:26.520 she said

01:32:27.080 it was a downright

01:32:27.860 she said

01:32:31.060 during the

01:32:31.720 2008

01:32:32.480 until David Axelrod

01:32:34.160 said you're going to be quiet

01:32:35.220 you may not like it

01:32:36.400 but you're not allowed to say anymore

01:32:38.260 because she said

01:32:39.140 I'd never been proud of my country

01:32:41.040 she said it was a downright mean country

01:32:43.140 she said they always raise the bar on us

01:32:45.680 every time we try to do something

01:32:47.140 they raise the bar on us

01:32:48.380 then finally

01:32:48.880 they put her on ice 0.82

01:32:50.920 they said

01:32:51.360 you're not capable of making a public statement

01:32:55.260 without offending people

01:32:56.480 and by the way

01:32:57.660 in 2008

01:32:59.180 Barack Obama got more white votes

01:33:02.080 than John Kerry did in 2004

01:33:04.520 and he was elected primarily by white people

01:33:08.640 who voted for him

01:33:10.260 and a small minority

01:33:11.940 maybe a large minority

01:33:12.960 did it because they thought

01:33:14.160 even though he was too liberal for their tastes

01:33:17.500 some Republicans

01:33:18.760 and they thought it would be good

01:33:20.140 to have an African American

01:33:22.040 the only thing

01:33:22.840 that people

01:33:23.720 roundly criticized

01:33:25.780 Barack Obama for

01:33:27.000 that he didn't earn

01:33:28.180 was a Nobel Prize

01:33:29.680 and he joked about it

01:33:31.020 he knew he didn't earn that

01:33:32.420 and he knew that

01:33:33.400 if he had been a white male president 0.83

01:33:35.580 he wouldn't have got it

01:33:36.680 just like Donald Trump

01:33:37.640 who did 20,000 times

01:33:39.300 more things to earn it

01:33:40.900 than Barack Obama did

01:33:42.620 probably will not get it

01:33:44.020 so they know that

01:33:45.220 and so the only way

01:33:46.640 that they can square that circle

01:33:48.280 of their privilege

01:33:49.260 and prejudice

01:33:50.600 and bias

01:33:51.220 in their direction

01:33:52.300 is to completely

01:33:53.960 play this victim game

01:33:55.840 and it's getting

01:33:57.040 it's getting really pathetic

01:33:59.380 and

01:34:00.000 I don't know what

01:34:01.700 I don't think

01:34:02.800 it's never going to end

01:34:04.380 until people who are them

01:34:06.640 whoever she considers them

01:34:08.860 say you know what

01:34:10.220 I know that our system

01:34:12.280 is fair and meritocratic

01:34:13.440 you can call me a racist

01:34:14.600 it has zero effect on me

01:34:16.760 I'm sorry

01:34:17.240 but I can say

01:34:17.880 one other thing about it though

01:34:19.060 she doesn't seem to understand

01:34:20.960 that everyone

01:34:22.860 who accomplishes anything

01:34:25.300 has detractors

01:34:27.100 has people who are not

01:34:28.620 rooting for them

01:34:29.360 it's called

01:34:30.320 human nature

01:34:32.260 okay

01:34:33.180 it's not

01:34:33.900 a racism thing

01:34:35.620 it's human nature

01:34:37.440 for some people

01:34:38.860 to watch other people's

01:34:40.340 people ascend

01:34:41.300 and feel envious

01:34:42.600 and try to take them down

01:34:44.320 but she's got to take

01:34:45.940 those few naysayers

01:34:47.560 and I'm sure

01:34:48.080 there was somebody

01:34:48.840 who made a racist comment

01:34:50.000 here or there

01:34:50.340 as they were running

01:34:51.180 and elevate them

01:34:53.040 to the ones

01:34:53.920 she remembers

01:34:54.720 she's on this national podcast

01:34:56.180 she's asked to talk about

01:34:57.640 her time as first lady 0.93

01:34:58.980 and her feelings around it

01:35:01.140 and that's where she goes

01:35:02.900 it's like

01:35:03.820 she doesn't go to

01:35:04.880 so blessed

01:35:06.140 the number of people I met

01:35:07.720 the experiences I had

01:35:09.300 my world was lit up

01:35:11.160 the amount of intellectual riches

01:35:13.660 that I took in

01:35:14.540 no

01:35:15.300 it's

01:35:16.000 people said we weren't patriotic

01:35:18.020 that there's a social order

01:35:19.740 and you're not supposed to be

01:35:20.760 at the top of it

01:35:21.460 we put her in the White House

01:35:23.600 we made her husband president

01:35:25.700 for eight years

01:35:27.260 it's still not good enough

01:35:29.340 the country

01:35:30.060 somebody said something negative about me

01:35:31.920 and it had to be because of my skin color

01:35:33.800 and I'm still bitter

01:35:35.500 how many years later now

01:35:37.640 like get over it

01:35:39.820 try to look on the bright side of life

01:35:41.940 there's so many different characteristics

01:35:44.720 that we all have

01:35:45.880 that can hurt or help us

01:35:48.500 what is

01:35:49.360 I think

01:35:50.240 it would be a lot easier

01:35:51.800 to be Michelle Obama

01:35:53.600 than Governor Abbott

01:35:54.640 in a wheelchair

01:35:55.260 what he had to overcome

01:35:56.540 or her middle class existence

01:35:59.160 in Chicago

01:36:00.000 was a lot

01:36:01.480 more conducive

01:36:03.360 for her success

01:36:04.180 than J.D. Vance's

01:36:05.340 was with a dysfunctional

01:36:06.620 drug ridden family

01:36:07.640 in Appalachia

01:36:08.540 you got that right

01:36:09.000 so everybody comes to the table

01:36:11.640 with individual debits

01:36:13.940 and pluses

01:36:14.880 but

01:36:15.240 once you do this

01:36:17.000 this race thing

01:36:18.500 and you think

01:36:19.700 it supersedes

01:36:20.480 every other consideration

01:36:21.680 of individuality

01:36:22.820 and your

01:36:23.500 race

01:36:24.540 is essential

01:36:25.460 rather than incidental

01:36:26.560 to who you are

01:36:27.340 to your persona

01:36:28.160 then it's never

01:36:29.680 it's not going to work out

01:36:31.040 and you can see

01:36:31.720 it puts enormous pressure

01:36:32.840 on people

01:36:33.480 you took it

01:36:35.140 if an immigrant 0.71

01:36:36.420 part of our problem

01:36:37.280 with immigration

01:36:38.240 is that we have

01:36:39.440 no civic education

01:36:40.720 assimilation

01:36:41.440 acculturation

01:36:42.240 and no appreciation

01:36:43.420 so you get

01:36:44.080 Ilian Omar

01:36:44.820 coming here

01:36:45.640 and she blasts 1.00

01:36:47.060 this country

01:36:47.600 as garbage

01:36:48.260 and it has dictators

01:36:50.340 it's racist

01:36:51.260 or you have

01:36:51.960 second generation AOC

01:36:53.320 or you

01:36:54.820 you have Mondami

01:36:56.680 and immediately

01:36:58.480 their parents

01:36:59.780 or they come here

01:37:00.760 and they're faced

01:37:01.860 with a choice

01:37:02.720 if you play

01:37:03.840 the race

01:37:04.660 victim card

01:37:05.820 this is one trajectory

01:37:07.580 if you don't

01:37:08.900 and you say

01:37:09.460 you're really happy

01:37:10.380 to be in this

01:37:11.140 safe

01:37:11.680 prosperous

01:37:12.280 secure country

01:37:13.320 and that's why

01:37:14.340 my parents

01:37:15.020 left Puerto Rico

01:37:16.140 or Uganda

01:37:17.320 or Somalia

01:37:18.560 and I was so lucky

01:37:19.900 to get where I am

01:37:21.400 because of these

01:37:22.040 opportunities

01:37:22.500 then it's not

01:37:23.320 that trajectory

01:37:24.260 is going to be

01:37:25.240 a lot more difficult

01:37:26.100 and so

01:37:26.880 our society

01:37:28.360 because we've got

01:37:29.460 so pathological

01:37:30.520 makes these choices

01:37:31.880 offers these choices

01:37:33.120 and most people

01:37:33.900 take the easy way out

01:37:35.220 all you have to do

01:37:36.500 is say that you were

01:37:37.340 a victim

01:37:37.760 your parents were

01:37:38.900 a victim

01:37:39.260 your color

01:37:39.960 your religion

01:37:40.720 it's oppressive

01:37:41.760 and that

01:37:42.600 that gives dividends

01:37:44.500 and it will continue

01:37:45.500 to give dividends

01:37:46.520 until people say

01:37:48.060 I'm bored

01:37:48.760 I've heard it

01:37:49.800 so many times

01:37:50.700 grow up

01:37:51.740 and be an adult

01:37:52.640 quit blaming everybody

01:37:54.220 for your own

01:37:55.160 inferiority

01:37:56.220 complex

01:37:56.800 or your own

01:37:57.720 perception

01:37:58.740 of

01:37:59.160 unfulfilled life

01:38:00.780 it's not my fault

01:38:01.640 it's yours

01:38:02.280 when she says

01:38:03.220 I thought it was

01:38:04.260 them

01:38:04.660 and not you

01:38:05.080 no Michelle

01:38:05.740 it's you

01:38:06.540 it's not them

01:38:07.680 not some

01:38:08.280 abstract them

01:38:09.560 you were the most

01:38:11.060 on the great

01:38:12.820 sense of thing

01:38:13.940 you grew up

01:38:14.620 in a very stable

01:38:15.740 advantageous family

01:38:18.140 and you

01:38:19.120 excelled

01:38:20.100 and the society

01:38:20.900 at large

01:38:21.500 said we had been

01:38:22.320 unfair to

01:38:23.160 African Americans

01:38:24.140 so to the third

01:38:26.020 or fourth generation

01:38:27.100 from Jim Crow 0.74

01:38:28.040 is that we're

01:38:28.660 going to continue

01:38:29.480 to offer advantages

01:38:31.060 for those who

01:38:31.800 want to take it

01:38:32.540 you took it

01:38:33.300 all more power

01:38:34.640 to you

01:38:35.160 but don't turn

01:38:36.880 around and tell

01:38:37.660 the society

01:38:38.500 that they oppressed

01:38:39.900 you or you're

01:38:40.480 victimized

01:38:41.160 when you're a

01:38:41.660 multi

01:38:41.920 four houses

01:38:43.120 Martha Vineyard

01:38:44.080 you know

01:38:44.840 Barack Obama

01:38:46.660 every time he

01:38:47.360 flies out

01:38:48.160 he berates

01:38:49.920 African American

01:38:50.880 staffers

01:38:51.540 in the

01:38:51.840 Harris campaign

01:38:53.060 as false

01:38:54.160 consciousness

01:38:54.800 well you don't

01:38:55.780 really know

01:38:56.600 as I do

01:38:57.840 to tell you

01:38:59.000 how you're

01:38:59.740 oppressed

01:39:00.120 and you don't

01:39:01.360 really appreciate

01:39:02.420 Kamala Harris

01:39:03.700 and he just did it

01:39:04.340 the other day

01:39:04.760 in an interview

01:39:05.180 Hispanic men

01:39:06.560 voted for Trump

01:39:08.180 on inflation

01:39:09.180 and gas

01:39:09.760 and they don't

01:39:10.260 really understand

01:39:11.120 and what he's

01:39:12.200 trying to say

01:39:12.800 is they don't

01:39:13.420 really feel

01:39:14.120 like they're

01:39:14.500 victims

01:39:14.980 and they're

01:39:15.680 voting on

01:39:16.460 criteria that

01:39:17.280 aren't race

01:39:17.760 based

01:39:18.180 and in the

01:39:19.060 Marxist fashion

01:39:19.880 I have to tell

01:39:20.580 them they're

01:39:20.960 deluded

01:39:21.380 and they have

01:39:21.840 false

01:39:22.140 consciousness

01:39:22.660 and correct

01:39:23.680 their incorrect

01:39:24.300 thinking

01:39:24.840 so arrogant

01:39:25.920 too

01:39:26.300 it's elitist

01:39:26.880 she's an elite

01:39:27.460 so is he

01:39:28.160 she's a total 1.00

01:39:29.280 elitist

01:39:29.700 to me I feel

01:39:30.360 like okay

01:39:30.680 Michelle

01:39:31.100 we can do

01:39:32.200 the destitution

01:39:32.720 derby

01:39:34.000 you know

01:39:34.460 you had an

01:39:35.600 intact family

01:39:36.220 for the first

01:39:36.720 27 years

01:39:37.400 of your life

01:39:37.880 your dad

01:39:38.540 died when

01:39:38.900 you were

01:39:39.080 27

01:39:39.560 which is

01:39:39.920 too soon

01:39:40.360 but you know

01:39:41.020 what

01:39:41.180 some of us

01:39:41.780 lost our

01:39:42.120 dad at a

01:39:42.600 much younger

01:39:43.420 more tender

01:39:44.120 age

01:39:44.620 and we don't

01:39:45.520 run around

01:39:45.940 because of it

01:39:46.520 thinking the

01:39:46.940 world owes us

01:39:47.720 something

01:39:48.080 or that we're

01:39:49.880 entitled to

01:39:50.460 something

01:39:50.740 everybody should

01:39:51.300 recognize

01:39:51.880 our hardship

01:39:52.820 and give us

01:39:53.580 a leg up

01:39:54.180 and make that

01:39:55.500 one negative

01:39:56.220 experience

01:39:56.980 become our

01:39:57.860 defining existence

01:39:59.240 the defining

01:40:00.700 characteristic

01:40:01.320 about us

01:40:02.000 the one

01:40:02.640 terrible

01:40:03.080 really sad

01:40:03.820 awful thing

01:40:04.340 that happened

01:40:04.700 to us

01:40:05.020 it could be

01:40:05.440 an incident

01:40:05.800 of racism

01:40:06.380 it could be

01:40:07.000 the loss

01:40:07.300 of a father

01:40:07.840 she doesn't

01:40:09.060 get it

01:40:09.340 she has no

01:40:09.740 tolerance for that

01:40:10.520 coming from

01:40:11.340 somebody else

01:40:11.840 it has to be

01:40:12.560 one thing

01:40:13.380 racism

01:40:14.080 and no matter

01:40:14.640 how many

01:40:15.080 advantages

01:40:15.460 she gets

01:40:15.900 houses in

01:40:16.640 Martha's Vineyard

01:40:17.380 and Chicago

01:40:18.220 and Hawaii

01:40:19.280 and I think

01:40:19.940 I'm missing

01:40:20.300 one

01:40:20.660 Washington D.C.

01:40:22.080 doesn't matter

01:40:22.760 girls at the 0.55

01:40:23.760 best universities

01:40:24.640 right

01:40:25.300 the husband

01:40:26.160 president

01:40:26.580 for two terms

01:40:27.240 doesn't matter

01:40:27.920 still a victim

01:40:28.700 still angry

01:40:29.660 still a racist

01:40:30.500 country

01:40:30.920 I'm sick of it

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01:44:59.240 Victor Davis

01:45:00.160 Hanson

01:45:00.680 and we've

01:45:01.480 got some

01:45:02.360 very interesting

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01:45:03.500 discuss

01:45:03.960 including

01:45:06.140 UFOs

01:45:07.040 now

01:45:07.740 let me start

01:45:08.720 by saying

01:45:09.080 this

01:45:09.380 our pal

01:45:09.900 Walter

01:45:10.320 Kern

01:45:10.700 put out

01:45:11.580 a tweet

01:45:11.960 this morning

01:45:12.620 promising

01:45:13.620 some

01:45:14.580 really bizarre

01:45:15.620 things

01:45:15.960 were going

01:45:16.180 to start

01:45:16.460 happening

01:45:16.800 and one

01:45:17.760 of them

01:45:18.000 already

01:45:18.340 happened

01:45:18.740 and I'm

01:45:19.680 going to

01:45:19.880 show it

01:45:20.180 to you

01:45:20.360 we have

01:45:20.640 it on

01:45:20.860 tape

01:45:21.060 and we

01:45:21.300 confirmed

01:45:21.680 with him

01:45:22.120 that this

01:45:22.420 is in

01:45:23.140 part

01:45:23.440 what he

01:45:23.740 was

01:45:23.920 talking

01:45:24.560 about

01:45:24.860 so that's

01:45:25.420 a tease

01:45:25.800 for our

01:45:26.560 second

01:45:26.900 subject

01:45:27.700 here

01:45:27.940 but

01:45:28.160 I'm

01:45:29.080 going to

01:45:29.220 kick 0.71

01:45:29.380 it off

01:45:29.740 with

01:45:30.120 this

01:45:31.020 upcoming

01:45:31.860 UFO

01:45:32.720 documentary

01:45:33.620 via the

01:45:34.900 Hollywood

01:45:35.140 reporter

01:45:35.540 and variety

01:45:36.160 it's called

01:45:37.000 The Age

01:45:37.880 of Disclosure

01:45:38.700 it's by a

01:45:39.680 filmmaker named

01:45:40.260 Dan Farah

01:45:41.420 and it

01:45:42.340 features on

01:45:43.060 the record

01:45:43.440 interviews with

01:45:44.300 34 current

01:45:45.820 and former

01:45:46.940 senior members

01:45:47.800 of the U.S.

01:45:48.940 government

01:45:49.260 military

01:45:50.200 intelligence

01:45:51.340 committee

01:45:51.700 and beyond

01:45:52.180 with direct

01:45:53.480 knowledge of

01:45:54.280 unidentified

01:45:55.160 aerial phenomena

01:45:56.660 or UAPs

01:45:58.060 which is the

01:45:58.900 new name

01:45:59.580 for UFOs

01:46:00.520 I guess it's

01:46:01.940 more

01:46:02.260 inclusive

01:46:03.520 the film

01:46:05.000 contends

01:46:05.540 that there

01:46:06.300 has been

01:46:06.640 an 80

01:46:07.200 year

01:46:07.500 cover-up

01:46:08.100 of the

01:46:08.460 existence

01:46:08.860 of

01:46:09.360 non-human

01:46:10.360 intelligent

01:46:11.020 life

01:46:11.520 and a

01:46:12.440 secret

01:46:12.840 war

01:46:13.580 among

01:46:14.480 major

01:46:15.140 nations

01:46:15.760 to

01:46:16.380 reverse

01:46:16.880 engineer

01:46:17.680 UFO

01:46:19.100 technology

01:46:20.200 some of

01:46:21.320 those

01:46:21.480 interviewed

01:46:21.760 include

01:46:22.140 Senator

01:46:22.540 well

01:46:23.260 now

01:46:23.460 Secretary

01:46:23.960 of State

01:46:24.340 Marco

01:46:24.640 Rubio

01:46:25.100 New York

01:46:25.440 Senator

01:46:25.720 Kirsten

01:46:26.200 Gillibrand

01:46:26.660 and many

01:46:27.740 others

01:46:28.080 including

01:46:28.400 some like

01:46:29.000 Lou

01:46:29.180 Elizondo

01:46:29.660 who's

01:46:29.920 been on

01:46:30.200 the show

01:46:30.500 talking about

01:46:31.180 UAPs

01:46:32.180 in the

01:46:33.000 past

01:46:33.440 there is

01:46:34.480 a documentary

01:46:35.060 that is

01:46:35.620 out

01:46:36.000 it just

01:46:37.120 hit

01:46:37.320 yesterday

01:46:37.840 sorry

01:46:38.440 there's a

01:46:38.760 trailer

01:46:39.000 for the

01:46:39.260 documentary

01:46:39.660 and here's

01:46:40.440 the trailer

01:46:40.800 we've had

01:46:42.880 repeated

01:46:43.300 instances

01:46:43.900 of something

01:46:44.880 operating

01:46:45.420 in the

01:46:45.720 airspace

01:46:46.260 over

01:46:46.700 restricted

01:46:47.260 nuclear

01:46:48.040 facilities

01:46:48.540 and it's

01:46:49.400 not ours

01:46:49.960 these are

01:46:50.540 otherworldly

01:46:51.260 things that

01:46:51.740 are performing

01:46:52.280 maneuvers

01:46:52.860 that have

01:46:54.020 haven't been

01:46:54.660 seen

01:46:54.980 I have

01:46:59.520 seen

01:46:59.780 with my

01:47:00.080 own eyes

01:47:00.620 non-human

01:47:01.300 craft

01:47:01.760 and non-human

01:47:02.540 beings

01:47:03.080 this is

01:47:06.980 so secret

01:47:07.940 there have

01:47:08.420 been very

01:47:08.920 few people

01:47:09.500 in our

01:47:09.820 entire

01:47:10.140 government

01:47:10.580 that have

01:47:11.000 been

01:47:11.260 allowed

01:47:11.860 or provided

01:47:12.600 access

01:47:12.980 to it

01:47:13.520 even

01:47:15.000 presidents

01:47:15.580 have been

01:47:16.440 operating

01:47:17.040 on a

01:47:17.340 need-to-know

01:47:17.740 basis

01:47:18.160 but that

01:47:18.760 begins

01:47:19.040 to ramp

01:47:19.660 out of

01:47:20.000 control

01:47:20.300 it's

01:47:21.720 not

01:47:22.160 acceptable

01:47:22.780 to have

01:47:23.280 secret

01:47:23.580 parts

01:47:23.860 of government

01:47:24.300 that no

01:47:24.660 one ever

01:47:24.940 sees

01:47:25.280 people

01:47:27.400 have been

01:47:27.800 hurt

01:47:28.080 protecting

01:47:28.560 and hiding

01:47:28.940 this

01:47:29.160 information

01:47:29.640 some

01:47:30.060 people

01:47:30.320 claim

01:47:30.660 it would

01:47:30.920 cost

01:47:31.140 them

01:47:31.260 their

01:47:31.400 lives

01:47:31.800 and they

01:47:32.100 spoke

01:47:32.340 out

01:47:32.520 about

01:47:32.720 these

01:47:32.940 things

01:47:33.200 you had

01:47:34.960 information

01:47:35.680 being locked

01:47:36.420 away

01:47:36.820 that could 0.68

01:47:37.320 change

01:47:38.000 the trajectory

01:47:38.860 for species

01:47:40.020 this is

01:47:41.320 the biggest

01:47:42.160 discovery

01:47:42.840 in human

01:47:43.540 history

01:47:43.940 the biggest

01:47:47.620 discovery

01:47:48.100 in human

01:47:48.640 history

01:47:49.080 sounds like

01:47:49.780 Joe Rogan

01:47:50.280 has seen

01:47:50.740 it

01:47:50.980 he's

01:47:51.840 they

01:47:52.240 my notes

01:47:53.040 read

01:47:53.240 ever since

01:47:53.700 South by

01:47:54.120 Southwest

01:47:54.460 he's been

01:47:54.980 a vocal

01:47:55.260 supporter of

01:47:55.820 the project

01:47:56.220 gaining

01:47:56.520 distribution

01:47:57.120 amazing

01:47:58.120 documentary

01:47:58.680 I really

01:47:59.160 hope

01:47:59.400 this

01:47:59.600 gets

01:47:59.860 released

01:48:00.360 somewhere

01:48:00.760 big

01:48:01.180 very

01:48:01.920 well

01:48:02.160 done

01:48:02.360 they

01:48:02.540 think

01:48:02.760 this

01:48:02.940 documentary

01:48:03.380 is

01:48:03.660 going

01:48:03.920 to

01:48:04.120 break

01:48:04.420 the

01:48:04.620 dam

01:48:05.020 it's

01:48:05.660 pretty

01:48:05.940 intense

01:48:06.640 our

01:48:08.200 understanding

01:48:08.560 is

01:48:08.880 it's

01:48:09.400 not

01:48:10.300 going

01:48:10.420 to

01:48:10.440 be

01:48:10.540 released

01:48:10.900 until

01:48:11.160 November

01:48:11.540 21st

01:48:12.400 this

01:48:12.540 is

01:48:12.660 just

01:48:12.800 the

01:48:13.000 theater

01:48:13.600 the

01:48:13.800 trailer

01:48:14.100 that

01:48:14.600 we've

01:48:14.760 gotten

01:48:15.000 it

01:48:15.540 will

01:48:15.760 we're

01:48:15.940 told

01:48:16.100 have

01:48:16.260 a

01:48:16.380 limited

01:48:16.620 theatrical

01:48:17.080 run

01:48:17.340 in

01:48:17.460 New York

01:48:17.740 LA

01:48:18.040 Washington

01:48:18.420 DC

01:48:18.760 and

01:48:19.900 it

01:48:20.320 will

01:48:20.500 be

01:48:20.700 streaming

01:48:21.060 on

01:48:21.320 Prime

01:48:21.620 video

01:48:21.960 again

01:48:22.200 as

01:48:22.460 of

01:48:22.580 November

01:48:22.880 21

01:48:23.740 so

01:48:25.120 those

01:48:26.480 are

01:48:26.620 some

01:48:26.960 legit

01:48:27.400 people

01:48:27.880 I

01:48:28.240 mean

01:48:28.440 Marco

01:48:29.060 Rubio

01:48:29.560 is

01:48:30.120 a

01:48:30.500 truth

01:48:30.720 teller

01:48:31.200 they

01:48:32.580 seem

01:48:32.900 to

01:48:33.000 be

01:48:33.140 featuring

01:48:33.600 Anna

01:48:35.380 Paulina

01:48:41.340 that's

01:48:41.600 Anna

01:48:41.880 Paulina

01:48:42.240 Luna

01:48:42.460 forgive

01:48:42.760 me

01:48:42.920 I

01:48:43.000 just

01:48:43.160 met

01:48:43.360 her

01:48:43.460 at

01:48:43.560 the

01:48:43.640 Charlie

01:48:43.840 event

01:48:44.040 she

01:48:44.180 was

01:48:44.280 lovely

01:48:44.580 and

01:48:45.720 she's

01:48:45.960 been

01:48:46.080 speaking

01:48:46.340 out

01:48:46.560 about

01:48:46.700 this

01:48:46.820 she

01:48:46.920 went

01:48:47.060 on

01:48:47.200 Rogan

01:48:47.420 to

01:48:47.540 talk

01:48:47.700 about

01:48:47.880 this

01:48:48.040 too

01:48:48.260 and

01:48:48.440 she's

01:48:48.600 a

01:48:48.700 lawmaker

01:48:49.060 who's

01:48:49.280 had

01:48:49.420 access

01:48:49.700 to

01:48:49.880 some

01:48:50.040 records

01:48:50.380 so

01:48:51.100 what

01:48:51.460 are

01:48:51.680 we

01:48:51.900 to

01:48:52.120 make

01:48:52.360 of

01:48:52.560 this

01:48:52.760 claim

01:48:53.260 that

01:48:54.100 there's

01:48:56.320 been

01:48:56.520 an

01:48:56.760 80

01:48:57.000 year

01:48:57.240 cover

01:48:57.600 up

01:48:57.880 of

01:48:58.160 the

01:48:58.280 existence

01:48:58.680 of

01:48:59.040 non

01:48:59.440 human

01:48:59.900 intelligent

01:49:00.560 life

01:49:01.120 and

01:49:01.660 a

01:49:05.380 UFO

01:49:06.440 technology

01:49:07.160 Victor

01:49:07.540 well

01:49:09.000 you know

01:49:09.180 I

01:49:09.260 come

01:49:09.500 to

01:49:09.640 it

01:49:09.780 I

01:49:10.220 don't

01:49:10.360 think

01:49:10.500 there

01:49:10.620 would

01:49:11.140 be

01:49:11.320 a

01:49:11.460 greater

01:49:11.840 skeptic

01:49:12.400 than

01:49:12.620 myself

01:49:13.400 when

01:49:14.260 I

01:49:14.500 until

01:49:15.320 this

01:49:15.800 era

01:49:16.260 that

01:49:16.620 we're

01:49:16.760 talking

01:49:17.080 about

01:49:17.320 disclosure

01:49:18.080 when

01:49:18.760 you

01:49:18.860 look

01:49:19.060 at

01:49:19.260 antiquity

01:49:20.100 you

01:49:20.340 would

01:49:20.660 think

01:49:21.020 we

01:49:21.800 had

01:49:21.900 some

01:49:22.040 pretty

01:49:22.340 empirical

01:49:23.360 historians

01:49:24.140 from

01:49:24.420 2500

01:49:25.100 years

01:49:25.640 ago

01:49:25.860 so

01:49:26.040 you

01:49:26.180 look

01:49:26.420 all

01:49:26.720 through

01:49:26.940 those

01:49:27.200 periods

01:49:27.760 and

01:49:28.400 while

01:49:28.520 they

01:49:28.680 do

01:49:28.840 mention

01:49:29.260 certain

01:49:29.700 things

01:49:30.060 that

01:49:30.180 are

01:49:30.280 a

01:49:30.400 little

01:49:30.500 strange

01:49:30.980 they

01:49:31.140 find

01:49:31.560 a

01:49:32.600 corpse

01:49:32.960 that's

01:49:35.380 a

01:49:35.640 comet

01:49:35.980 that

01:49:36.400 they

01:49:36.840 think

01:49:37.060 is

01:49:37.200 a

01:49:37.320 little

01:49:37.400 you

01:49:38.100 don't

01:49:38.440 get

01:49:38.720 any

01:49:38.960 description

01:49:39.480 of

01:49:39.980 anybody

01:49:40.320 who

01:49:40.540 says

01:49:40.820 there

01:49:41.060 was

01:49:41.180 people

01:49:41.440 from

01:49:41.680 a

01:49:41.800 different

01:49:42.020 planet

01:49:42.480 and

01:49:44.040 then

01:49:44.300 in

01:49:45.140 addition

01:49:45.360 to

01:49:45.540 that

01:49:45.780 you

01:49:45.940 have

01:49:46.660 to

01:49:46.760 approach

01:49:47.140 it

01:49:47.240 from

01:49:47.360 the

01:49:47.480 religious

01:49:47.840 I

01:49:48.140 used

01:49:48.380 to

01:49:48.520 teach

01:49:48.760 the

01:49:48.980 New

01:49:49.140 Testament

01:49:49.540 in

01:49:49.800 Greek

01:49:50.020 and

01:49:50.460 you

01:49:51.160 get

01:49:51.340 the

01:49:51.540 idea

01:49:51.940 that

01:49:52.340 the

01:49:53.240 whole

01:49:53.700 religious

01:49:54.560 experience

01:49:55.300 in

01:49:56.200 Christianity

01:49:56.640 but also

01:49:57.220 in other

01:49:57.560 religions

01:49:57.980 is based

01:49:58.540 on the

01:49:58.940 uniqueness

01:49:59.400 of

01:50:00.540 life

01:50:00.980 here

01:50:01.320 as

01:50:02.640 we

01:50:02.820 know

01:50:03.080 it

01:50:03.320 and

01:50:04.020 then

01:50:04.200 you

01:50:04.640 kind

01:50:05.880 of

01:50:06.000 see

01:50:06.200 all

01:50:06.380 these

01:50:06.540 characters

01:50:07.020 growing up

01:50:07.740 in the

01:50:07.980 50s

01:50:08.360 and 60s

01:50:09.040 with all

01:50:09.420 these

01:50:09.680 UFO

01:50:10.060 stuff

01:50:10.480 and

01:50:11.060 you

01:50:11.260 kind

01:50:11.760 of

01:50:11.900 get

01:50:12.160 on the

01:50:13.280 ledger

01:50:13.560 where

01:50:13.760 you

01:50:13.900 think

01:50:14.120 well

01:50:14.360 this

01:50:15.060 is

01:50:15.200 not

01:50:15.460 possible

01:50:16.700 but

01:50:17.540 then

01:50:17.700 the

01:50:17.860 more

01:50:18.060 and

01:50:18.200 more

01:50:18.460 you

01:50:18.980 see

01:50:19.480 these

01:50:19.800 films

01:50:20.180 now

01:50:20.440 and

01:50:20.560 we

01:50:20.660 have

01:50:20.840 much

01:50:22.000 greater

01:50:22.440 precision

01:50:23.660 in

01:50:24.020 cameras

01:50:24.620 in

01:50:25.160 radar

01:50:25.720 sonar

01:50:26.420 and

01:50:26.600 you

01:50:26.720 start

01:50:27.000 to

01:50:27.160 see

01:50:27.340 things

01:50:27.700 that

01:50:27.840 maybe

01:50:28.120 we

01:50:28.720 didn't

01:50:29.600 you

01:50:29.800 become

01:50:30.540 I'm

01:50:31.700 now

01:50:32.080 kind

01:50:32.580 of

01:50:32.680 50-50

01:50:33.340 I'm

01:50:33.860 just

01:50:34.060 waiting

01:50:34.340 to

01:50:34.780 see

01:50:35.880 something

01:50:36.340 you

01:50:36.880 know

01:50:36.960 what

01:50:37.060 I'm

01:50:37.180 saying

01:50:37.380 the

01:50:37.620 only

01:50:38.120 the

01:50:38.620 elephant

01:50:39.300 in

01:50:39.460 the

01:50:39.600 room

01:50:39.860 is

01:50:40.280 if

01:50:41.060 all

01:50:41.360 of

01:50:41.500 this

01:50:41.660 is

01:50:41.840 true

01:50:42.180 which

01:50:42.600 I

01:50:43.100 think

01:50:43.280 the

01:50:43.460 evidence

01:50:43.800 is

01:50:43.980 starting

01:50:44.240 to

01:50:44.660 make

01:50:45.260 us

01:50:45.580 skeptics

01:50:46.380 re-examine

01:50:47.560 our

01:50:47.820 beliefs

01:50:49.020 you

01:50:49.620 would

01:50:49.820 think

01:50:50.340 that

01:50:50.920 the

01:50:51.100 average

01:50:51.440 person

01:50:51.920 then

01:50:52.160 is

01:50:52.320 going

01:50:52.520 to

01:50:52.700 see

01:50:52.960 them

01:50:53.260 much

01:50:54.140 more

01:50:54.340 frequently

01:50:54.800 than

01:50:55.120 that's

01:50:55.440 exactly

01:50:55.700 what

01:50:55.880 I said

01:50:56.120 to

01:50:56.220 my

01:50:56.360 team

01:50:56.620 yeah

01:50:57.100 before

01:50:57.500 we

01:50:57.620 started

01:50:57.760 this

01:50:57.960 segment

01:50:58.140 I made

01:50:58.560 the

01:50:58.700 same

01:50:58.860 point

01:50:59.100 like

01:50:59.300 why

01:50:59.520 aren't

01:51:00.060 skeptics

01:51:00.780 seeing

01:51:01.320 the

01:51:02.020 UAPs

01:51:02.660 why

01:51:02.860 aren't

01:51:03.160 we

01:51:03.380 all

01:51:03.680 running

01:51:03.980 into

01:51:04.180 them

01:51:04.320 there

01:51:04.480 was

01:51:05.100 the

01:51:05.260 weird

01:51:05.480 drone

01:51:05.860 thing

01:51:06.120 over

01:51:06.420 New

01:51:06.660 Jersey

01:51:07.040 we

01:51:07.700 never

01:51:07.900 got

01:51:08.140 to

01:51:08.280 the

01:51:08.420 bottom

01:51:08.660 of

01:51:08.840 that

01:51:09.200 we

01:51:11.160 have

01:51:11.400 pilots

01:51:12.440 in

01:51:13.080 the

01:51:13.200 air

01:51:13.520 with

01:51:14.300 videotape

01:51:15.020 show

01:51:15.260 us

01:51:15.500 very

01:51:16.200 bizarre

01:51:16.520 objects

01:51:17.160 that

01:51:17.380 go

01:51:17.600 faster

01:51:18.040 than

01:51:18.260 any

01:51:18.480 aircraft

01:51:18.980 that

01:51:19.860 we

01:51:20.000 know

01:51:20.180 of

01:51:20.360 on

01:51:20.500 earth

01:51:20.760 could

01:51:20.940 go

01:51:21.360 you

01:51:22.120 know

01:51:22.180 these

01:51:22.340 are

01:51:22.460 legit

01:51:22.820 fighter

01:51:23.140 pilots

01:51:23.540 who

01:51:23.700 are

01:51:23.820 not

01:51:24.080 nuts

01:51:24.620 and

01:51:25.180 there

01:51:25.320 are

01:51:25.520 quite

01:51:25.760 a few

01:51:26.020 of

01:51:26.180 them

01:51:26.420 talking

01:51:26.800 about

01:51:27.140 what

01:51:27.920 they've

01:51:28.160 encountered

01:51:28.520 and

01:51:28.760 it

01:51:28.900 might

01:51:29.060 make

01:51:29.280 sense

01:51:29.560 that

01:51:29.720 if

01:51:29.840 you

01:51:29.940 were

01:51:30.180 from

01:51:31.460 another

01:51:31.740 planet

01:51:32.140 you'd

01:51:32.500 start

01:51:32.740 with

01:51:32.880 our

01:51:33.040 military

01:51:33.480 surveilling

01:51:34.080 it

01:51:34.300 seeing

01:51:34.640 what

01:51:34.780 it's

01:51:34.940 capable

01:51:35.220 of

01:51:35.600 I

01:51:37.060 will

01:51:37.220 say

01:51:37.400 this

01:51:37.600 Tim

01:51:37.840 Burchett

01:51:38.300 from

01:51:39.620 Tennessee

01:51:40.020 was on

01:51:40.420 Tucker

01:51:40.620 show

01:51:41.000 two

01:51:41.420 weeks

01:51:41.620 ago

01:51:41.880 or

01:51:42.020 a week

01:51:42.280 ago

01:51:42.800 and

01:51:43.720 here's

01:51:44.080 something

01:51:44.660 he said

01:51:45.120 take a

01:51:45.600 listen

01:51:45.720 to him

01:51:46.020 you don't

01:51:47.820 think this

01:51:48.220 is our

01:51:48.500 technology

01:51:49.020 no

01:51:49.660 I do

01:51:50.240 not

01:51:50.460 there's

01:51:50.760 no way

01:51:51.220 it is

01:51:51.540 our

01:51:51.720 technology

01:51:51.920 there's

01:51:53.840 I've

01:51:54.800 talked to

01:51:55.120 too many

01:51:55.440 pilots

01:51:55.920 why

01:51:56.500 would

01:51:56.740 we

01:51:56.920 risk

01:51:57.440 our

01:52:00.320 best

01:52:00.820 I've

01:52:01.200 talked

01:52:01.380 to

01:52:01.520 the

01:52:01.680 best

01:52:01.980 pilots

01:52:03.380 in the

01:52:03.720 world

01:52:04.000 that are

01:52:04.360 ours

01:52:04.720 some

01:52:05.480 of

01:52:05.660 them

01:52:05.800 not

01:52:06.440 all

01:52:06.640 of

01:52:06.800 them

01:52:07.160 that

01:52:07.580 have

01:52:07.720 told

01:52:07.940 me

01:52:08.080 I

01:52:08.180 mean

01:52:08.260 one

01:52:08.440 guy

01:52:08.760 I

01:52:09.360 remember

01:52:09.520 I said

01:52:09.740 Capitol Hill

01:52:10.260 Club

01:52:10.500 was just

01:52:10.880 an

01:52:11.040 unusual

01:52:11.380 encounter

01:52:11.980 a guy

01:52:12.280 spoke

01:52:12.580 to a

01:52:12.980 group

01:52:13.240 and

01:52:13.440 he

01:52:14.340 followed

01:52:14.660 me

01:52:14.880 out

01:52:15.100 and

01:52:15.240 said

01:52:15.440 you know

01:52:16.420 Tim

01:52:16.740 or

01:52:17.380 congressman

01:52:17.880 or

01:52:17.960 whatever

01:52:18.180 he said

01:52:18.520 that thing

01:52:19.540 was 14

01:52:20.160 feet

01:52:20.500 and he

01:52:20.740 went

01:52:20.860 like

01:52:21.060 this

01:52:21.380 from

01:52:21.740 my

01:52:21.960 canopy

01:52:22.280 and

01:52:22.920 I

01:52:23.000 thought

01:52:23.140 to

01:52:23.240 myself

01:52:23.600 why

01:52:24.460 didn't

01:52:24.600 you

01:52:24.720 say

01:52:24.860 15

01:52:25.300 why

01:52:25.540 didn't

01:52:25.660 you

01:52:25.740 say

01:52:25.880 20

01:52:26.240 but

01:52:26.440 he

01:52:26.520 said

01:52:26.680 14

01:52:27.120 and

01:52:28.400 then

01:52:28.760 he

01:52:30.000 just

01:52:30.180 he

01:52:30.380 said

01:52:30.520 this

01:52:30.700 thing

01:52:30.920 it

01:52:31.200 wasn't

01:52:31.520 ours

01:52:31.820 he

01:52:32.380 said

01:52:32.580 I

01:52:32.860 don't

01:52:32.980 know

01:52:33.100 what

01:52:33.240 it

01:52:33.340 was

01:52:33.580 but

01:52:33.740 it

01:52:33.860 wasn't

01:52:34.120 ours

01:52:34.400 and

01:52:35.400 that's

01:52:35.840 all

01:52:35.940 he

01:52:36.020 said

01:52:36.240 and

01:52:36.360 I

01:52:36.480 had

01:52:36.640 a

01:52:37.180 very

01:52:37.480 high

01:52:38.180 ranking

01:52:38.460 member

01:52:38.780 of

01:52:38.900 the

01:52:39.020 Navy

01:52:39.300 describe

01:52:40.540 some

01:52:41.800 underwater

01:52:42.460 experiences

01:52:43.320 they'd

01:52:43.740 had

01:52:44.020 with

01:52:44.500 something

01:52:44.760 that

01:52:44.960 was

01:52:45.140 doing

01:52:45.480 200

01:52:45.860 miles

01:52:46.100 and

01:52:46.200 the

01:52:46.320 best

01:52:46.540 thing

01:52:46.680 we

01:52:46.800 got

01:52:46.960 is

01:52:47.080 probably

01:52:47.280 40

01:52:47.680 was

01:52:48.080 doing

01:52:48.300 200

01:52:48.740 miles

01:52:49.220 an

01:52:49.380 hour

01:52:49.440 underwater

01:52:49.880 underwater

01:52:50.220 big

01:52:50.840 so

01:52:54.420 is

01:52:54.620 it

01:52:54.780 possible

01:52:55.400 given

01:52:56.640 our

01:52:56.840 current

01:52:57.120 understanding

01:52:57.620 of

01:52:57.840 physics

01:52:58.140 for

01:52:58.360 any

01:52:58.760 man

01:52:59.060 made

01:52:59.260 machine

01:52:59.580 to

01:52:59.740 go

01:52:59.860 anywhere

01:53:00.040 near

01:53:00.320 200

01:53:00.680 miles

01:53:00.960 an

01:53:01.120 hour

01:53:01.180 underwater

01:53:01.620 not

01:53:02.100 with

01:53:02.280 our

01:53:02.440 technology

01:53:02.960 no

01:53:03.300 the

01:53:03.580 best

01:53:03.780 we

01:53:03.980 have

01:53:04.260 is

01:53:04.480 probably

01:53:04.880 in

01:53:05.080 the

01:53:05.260 in

01:53:05.540 the

01:53:05.700 high

01:53:05.900 30s

01:53:06.960 starting

01:53:09.880 to reel

01:53:10.200 me in

01:53:10.560 Victor

01:53:10.860 yeah

01:53:11.960 it is

01:53:12.900 but

01:53:13.200 on the

01:53:13.520 other

01:53:13.680 hand

01:53:13.940 if

01:53:14.080 somebody

01:53:14.360 said

01:53:14.640 there

01:53:14.800 was

01:53:14.960 a

01:53:15.120 hypersonic

01:53:15.700 missile

01:53:16.120 10

01:53:16.520 Mach 3

01:53:17.740 or

01:53:17.920 something

01:53:18.260 I

01:53:18.800 wouldn't

01:53:19.080 have

01:53:19.180 believed

01:53:19.480 it

01:53:19.720 now

01:53:20.680 the

01:53:21.480 Russians

01:53:21.800 and

01:53:22.040 we

01:53:22.260 and

01:53:22.440 the

01:53:22.580 Chinese

01:53:22.920 have

01:53:23.280 them

01:53:23.520 and

01:53:24.280 then

01:53:24.440 if

01:53:24.680 somebody

01:53:24.960 said

01:53:25.380 there's

01:53:26.480 an

01:53:26.600 iron

01:53:26.860 beam

01:53:27.240 that

01:53:27.440 can

01:53:27.620 knock

01:53:27.880 down

01:53:28.620 incoming

01:53:30.500 projectiles

01:53:31.540 or

01:53:32.220 there's

01:53:32.540 drones

01:53:32.940 that

01:53:33.140 can

01:53:33.300 go

01:53:33.560 I

01:53:33.760 don't

01:53:33.860 know

01:53:34.040 what

01:53:34.240 is

01:53:34.400 10

01:53:34.940 G's 0.99

01:53:35.460 or

01:53:35.720 more

01:53:36.120 I

01:53:37.100 wouldn't

01:53:37.320 have

01:53:37.440 believed

01:53:37.740 it

01:53:37.920 so

01:53:38.180 our

01:53:39.120 technology

01:53:39.740 is

01:53:40.180 increasing

01:53:41.140 at a

01:53:42.360 not an

01:53:42.980 arithmetic

01:53:43.540 but a

01:53:44.060 geometric

01:53:44.420 rate

01:53:44.960 it

01:53:45.480 seems

01:53:45.860 like

01:53:46.300 so I

01:53:47.100 don't

01:53:47.260 know

01:53:47.440 to what

01:53:47.840 degree

01:53:48.140 people

01:53:48.620 who

01:53:49.000 see

01:53:49.280 these

01:53:49.580 things

01:53:50.060 are

01:53:50.980 part

01:53:51.360 of

01:53:51.500 a

01:53:51.720 military

01:53:52.820 group

01:53:53.460 or

01:53:53.640 civilian

01:53:54.060 group

01:53:54.400 where

01:53:54.620 there

01:53:55.020 are

01:53:55.240 people

01:53:55.600 who

01:53:55.800 are

01:53:55.940 experimenting

01:53:56.420 with

01:53:56.720 these

01:53:56.900 technologies

01:53:57.520 with

01:53:57.920 drones

01:53:58.360 hypersonic

01:53:59.480 lasers

01:54:00.440 that

01:54:00.920 they're

01:54:01.260 not

01:54:01.540 communicating

01:54:02.580 I

01:54:02.820 don't

01:54:02.960 know

01:54:03.260 to

01:54:03.620 the

01:54:03.760 degree

01:54:03.920 that's

01:54:04.280 true

01:54:04.340 could

01:54:04.460 it

01:54:04.580 be

01:54:04.640 the

01:54:04.780 Chinese

01:54:05.200 yes

01:54:06.340 exactly

01:54:07.380 and

01:54:08.260 I

01:54:10.320 and then

01:54:11.260 the other

01:54:11.540 thing is

01:54:11.980 how many

01:54:12.340 light years

01:54:13.040 are we

01:54:13.540 away

01:54:14.460 from the

01:54:15.100 nearest

01:54:15.480 planet

01:54:16.160 that

01:54:16.860 would

01:54:17.040 support

01:54:18.160 life

01:54:18.900 and

01:54:19.220 some

01:54:19.620 of

01:54:19.740 them

01:54:19.880 are

01:54:20.080 a

01:54:20.900 lot

01:54:21.120 of

01:54:21.240 light

01:54:21.480 years

01:54:21.800 so

01:54:22.220 you're

01:54:22.500 talking

01:54:22.800 about

01:54:23.220 a

01:54:24.160 type

01:54:24.460 of

01:54:24.640 propulsion

01:54:25.180 that

01:54:25.500 could

01:54:25.660 go

01:54:25.840 at

01:54:25.960 the

01:54:26.100 speed

01:54:26.320 of

01:54:26.480 light

01:54:26.800 to

01:54:28.040 get

01:54:28.260 to

01:54:28.560 us

01:54:28.960 within

01:54:29.260 a

01:54:29.460 few

01:54:29.640 years

01:54:30.080 it

01:54:30.340 seems

01:54:30.620 very

01:54:31.080 improbable

01:54:32.940 unless

01:54:34.240 they live

01:54:34.780 in our

01:54:35.060 ocean

01:54:35.420 yes

01:54:36.640 unless

01:54:36.940 they've

01:54:37.260 come

01:54:37.460 here

01:54:37.680 before

01:54:38.220 or

01:54:39.040 there

01:54:39.280 used

01:54:42.860 to be

01:54:43.180 I forgot

01:54:43.900 his name

01:54:44.240 Von

01:54:44.600 something

01:54:45.020 he was

01:54:45.980 in the

01:54:46.580 70s

01:54:47.100 he made

01:54:47.760 the argument

01:54:48.260 that the

01:54:48.780 Egyptians

01:54:49.180 and other

01:54:49.760 monumental

01:54:51.380 civilizations

01:54:52.160 the Minoans

01:54:52.880 were taught

01:54:53.640 their technology

01:54:55.340 by people

01:54:55.820 came from

01:54:56.440 outer

01:54:57.040 space

01:54:57.620 I think

01:54:59.420 his name

01:54:59.720 was

01:54:59.840 Von

01:55:00.080 Donnegan

01:55:00.480 and

01:55:01.560 you know

01:55:02.240 he said

01:55:02.600 the pyramids

01:55:03.220 were beyond

01:55:03.680 the technological

01:55:04.340 ability

01:55:04.940 of people

01:55:05.360 at the

01:55:05.640 time

01:55:06.160 or the

01:55:06.860 lion's

01:55:07.340 gate

01:55:07.520 at

01:55:07.700 my

01:55:07.880 city

01:55:08.200 couldn't

01:55:08.820 it was

01:55:09.740 so many

01:55:10.080 tons

01:55:10.460 there were

01:55:10.720 no

01:55:10.900 methods

01:55:11.300 but

01:55:11.640 he was

01:55:13.060 refuted

01:55:13.520 because people

01:55:14.160 demonstrably

01:55:15.000 showed that

01:55:15.620 you could

01:55:16.320 do what

01:55:16.760 they did

01:55:17.360 with innovative

01:55:18.820 technology

01:55:19.520 known at

01:55:20.020 the time

01:55:20.540 it was

01:55:20.840 just

01:55:21.020 unusual

01:55:21.500 so

01:55:22.440 I'm

01:55:23.920 still

01:55:24.160 a

01:55:24.360 skeptic

01:55:24.960 but

01:55:25.220 I'm

01:55:25.400 less

01:55:25.640 a

01:55:25.800 skeptic

01:55:26.200 I guess

01:55:26.520 than

01:55:26.700 I was

01:55:27.060 if that's

01:55:27.420 a

01:55:27.500 That describes

01:55:28.020 me perfectly

01:55:28.620 too

01:55:28.880 I sign

01:55:30.140 on for

01:55:30.500 what you

01:55:30.840 said

01:55:31.000 now my

01:55:31.380 executive

01:55:31.700 producer

01:55:32.060 Steve

01:55:32.600 Krakauer

01:55:33.080 loves

01:55:34.080 this

01:55:34.340 stuff

01:55:34.640 he

01:55:35.020 is

01:55:36.040 much

01:55:36.320 more

01:55:36.460 in the

01:55:36.620 Joe

01:55:36.760 Rogan

01:55:37.060 camp

01:55:37.440 and the

01:55:38.120 Tucker

01:55:38.340 camp

01:55:38.740 he

01:55:39.060 believes

01:55:39.640 and

01:55:40.680 one

01:55:41.060 of us

01:55:41.320 will

01:55:41.500 wind

01:55:41.760 up

01:55:41.900 being

01:55:42.020 right

01:55:42.200 although

01:55:42.400 I

01:55:42.700 like

01:55:43.120 you

01:55:43.260 I'm

01:55:43.400 not

01:55:43.600 saying

01:55:43.920 it's

01:55:44.060 not

01:55:44.200 possible

01:55:44.500 I'm

01:55:44.800 like

01:55:45.020 I don't

01:55:45.680 think

01:55:45.940 so

01:55:46.360 I'm

01:55:46.660 not

01:55:46.800 ready

01:55:46.980 to

01:55:47.140 say

01:55:47.380 it

01:55:47.520 is

01:55:47.820 but

01:55:48.000 I'm

01:55:48.280 open

01:55:49.040 minded

01:55:49.380 to

01:55:49.760 proof

01:55:50.180 and

01:55:50.600 this

01:55:50.800 movie

01:55:51.080 okay

01:55:51.360 so

01:55:51.520 now

01:55:51.780 we

01:55:52.000 turn

01:55:52.340 to

01:55:52.480 Walter

01:55:52.780 Kern

01:55:53.120 very

01:55:54.520 smart

01:55:54.760 guy

01:55:55.080 journalist

01:55:55.980 comes

01:55:56.380 on the

01:55:56.640 show

01:55:56.840 and

01:55:57.680 he

01:55:58.100 this

01:55:58.600 morning

01:55:59.000 tweeted

01:55:59.860 out

01:56:00.200 something

01:56:00.740 that's

01:56:01.180 since

01:56:01.540 gone

01:56:02.160 everywhere

01:56:02.500 and

01:56:03.580 he

01:56:03.740 wrote

01:56:04.140 the

01:56:04.300 following

01:56:04.600 can

01:56:05.100 I

01:56:05.360 blow 0.77

01:56:05.760 the

01:56:05.960 whole

01:56:06.220 UFO

01:56:06.680 thing

01:56:07.220 wide

01:56:08.020 open

01:56:08.280 for

01:56:08.460 you

01:56:08.660 you

01:56:09.520 won't

01:56:09.700 believe

01:56:09.960 me

01:56:10.140 anyway

01:56:10.500 it's

01:56:11.460 only

01:56:11.740 a

01:56:11.900 matter

01:56:12.100 of

01:56:12.280 time

01:56:12.680 until

01:56:12.940 you

01:56:15.940 is

01:56:16.160 rockable

01:56:16.560 you

01:56:17.300 will

01:56:17.460 have

01:56:17.580 a

01:56:17.680 hard

01:56:17.840 time

01:56:18.080 verifying

01:56:18.580 them

01:56:18.860 but

01:56:19.300 that's

01:56:19.560 true

01:56:19.720 of

01:56:19.860 everything

01:56:20.120 you

01:56:20.320 hear

01:56:20.540 it's

01:56:21.160 true

01:56:21.340 of

01:56:21.520 unemployment

01:56:21.980 statistics

01:56:22.680 they

01:56:23.860 will

01:56:24.060 be

01:56:24.320 very

01:56:24.720 specific

01:56:25.200 things

01:56:25.660 however

01:56:26.000 and

01:56:26.840 so

01:56:27.080 far

01:56:27.360 out

01:56:27.720 so

01:56:28.180 beyond

01:56:28.620 your

01:56:28.800 expectations

01:56:29.440 they

01:56:30.140 will

01:56:30.300 ring

01:56:30.540 your

01:56:30.700 bell

01:56:30.960 and

01:56:31.720 you'll

01:56:31.900 hear

01:56:32.060 them

01:56:32.300 from

01:56:32.540 people

01:56:32.820 you

01:56:33.000 were

01:56:33.120 not

01:56:33.360 ready

01:56:33.580 to

01:56:33.760 hear

01:56:33.920 such

01:56:34.200 things

01:56:34.460 from

01:56:34.760 the

01:56:35.660 shells

01:56:36.140 are

01:56:36.700 all

01:56:36.900 in

01:56:37.020 the

01:56:37.160 cannon

01:56:37.460 it's

01:56:38.300 all

01:56:38.440 about

01:56:38.640 who

01:56:38.840 gets

01:56:39.100 to

01:56:39.300 shoot

01:56:39.520 it

01:56:45.940 now

01:56:46.060 believe

01:56:46.860 me

01:56:47.100 later

01:56:47.460 as

01:56:47.980 they

01:56:48.180 say

01:56:48.580 so

01:56:49.760 good

01:56:50.080 he's

01:56:50.420 he's

01:56:51.300 so

01:56:51.480 good

01:56:51.660 at

01:56:51.780 sending

01:56:52.100 tweets

01:56:52.380 out

01:56:52.540 like

01:56:52.740 that

01:56:52.940 right

01:56:53.180 but

01:56:53.760 there's

01:56:54.020 more

01:56:54.240 there's

01:56:54.940 yeah

01:56:55.700 give me

01:56:56.260 your

01:56:56.380 initial

01:56:56.600 reaction

01:56:56.920 to

01:56:57.020 his

01:56:57.120 tweet

01:56:57.280 because

01:56:57.400 I'm

01:56:57.520 going to

01:56:57.600 show

01:56:57.740 you

01:56:57.840 what

01:56:57.960 I

01:56:58.060 think

01:56:58.200 he

01:56:58.260 was

01:56:58.340 talking

01:56:58.520 about

01:56:58.720 yeah

01:56:59.200 yeah

01:57:01.000 well

01:57:01.280 I

01:57:02.000 know

01:57:02.220 Walter

01:57:02.500 Cron

01:57:02.760 a little

01:57:03.020 bit

01:57:03.300 and

01:57:03.700 I

01:57:03.820 really

01:57:04.080 admire

01:57:04.580 him

01:57:04.800 he's

01:57:04.940 a

01:57:05.040 really

01:57:05.160 brilliant

01:57:05.520 guy

01:57:05.840 he's

01:57:06.020 witty

01:57:06.260 he's

01:57:06.560 a

01:57:06.760 great

01:57:06.940 writer

01:57:07.320 I'm

01:57:08.400 prejudiced

01:57:08.840 a little

01:57:09.020 bit

01:57:09.180 because

01:57:09.300 he

01:57:09.400 reviewed

01:57:09.700 one

01:57:09.880 of my

01:57:10.080 books

01:57:10.360 favorably

01:57:10.900 but

01:57:11.660 I

01:57:12.480 just

01:57:12.700 would

01:57:12.900 like

01:57:13.100 to

01:57:13.260 know

01:57:13.620 how

01:57:14.280 he

01:57:14.540 when

01:57:15.220 he

01:57:15.400 gives

01:57:15.840 us

01:57:16.000 that

01:57:16.180 assurance

01:57:16.680 I

01:57:17.220 wish

01:57:17.400 he

01:57:17.520 would

01:57:17.640 just

01:57:17.840 say

01:57:18.160 and

01:57:19.260 these

01:57:19.700 things

01:57:19.980 are

01:57:20.120 going

01:57:20.260 to

01:57:20.440 shock

01:57:21.240 you

01:57:21.520 because

01:57:22.040 I

01:57:23.100 have

01:57:23.780 seen

01:57:24.460 talked

01:57:25.240 or is

01:57:26.300 it

01:57:26.400 this

01:57:26.580 movie

01:57:26.880 or I

01:57:27.220 don't

01:57:27.360 know

01:57:27.620 just

01:57:28.140 give

01:57:28.800 me

01:57:28.980 you

01:57:29.840 want

01:57:30.040 more

01:57:30.920 info

01:57:31.240 in

01:57:32.380 the

01:57:32.500 yes

01:57:32.820 yes

01:57:33.380 but I

01:57:33.740 do

01:57:34.060 I

01:57:34.900 am

01:57:35.340 here

01:57:35.540 to

01:57:35.740 make

01:57:35.900 you

01:57:37.320 good

01:57:37.680 all

01:57:38.500 right

01:57:38.640 so

01:57:39.380 just

01:57:40.360 we

01:57:40.620 had

01:57:40.860 the

01:57:41.000 Walter

01:57:41.260 tweet

01:57:41.660 and

01:57:42.040 we

01:57:42.160 knew

01:57:42.320 about

01:57:42.540 this

01:57:42.760 UFO

01:57:43.120 documentary

01:57:43.800 the

01:57:44.560 age

01:57:44.840 of

01:57:44.960 disclosure

01:57:45.500 again

01:57:45.920 which

01:57:46.120 comes

01:57:46.340 out

01:57:46.480 November

01:57:46.740 21st

01:57:47.420 and

01:57:48.020 that's

01:57:48.220 all

01:57:48.360 we

01:57:48.500 had

01:57:48.680 as

01:57:48.960 we

01:57:49.080 came

01:57:49.260 to

01:57:49.400 air

01:57:49.640 and

01:57:49.980 as

01:57:50.240 you

01:57:50.360 know

01:57:50.500 because

01:57:50.620 we

01:57:50.760 usually

01:57:50.960 give

01:57:51.140 the

01:57:51.260 guests

01:57:51.780 the

01:57:51.920 topics

01:57:52.320 some

01:57:52.880 of

01:57:52.980 them

01:57:53.080 at

01:57:53.180 least

01:57:53.320 that

01:57:53.440 we're

01:57:53.520 going

01:57:53.600 to be

01:57:53.740 discussing

01:57:54.060 in

01:57:54.220 advance

01:57:54.420 of

01:57:54.520 the

01:57:54.600 show

01:57:54.800 that

01:57:54.980 we

01:57:55.140 were

01:57:55.340 planning

01:57:55.760 on

01:57:55.920 talking

01:57:56.120 about

01:57:56.280 the

01:57:56.420 UFO

01:57:56.720 documentary

01:57:57.220 but

01:57:57.940 then

01:57:58.440 Walter

01:57:59.260 drops

01:57:59.600 this

01:57:59.800 tweet

01:58:00.140 and

01:58:00.340 we're

01:58:00.420 like

01:58:00.580 wow

01:58:00.820 that's

01:58:01.080 interesting

01:58:01.400 what is

01:58:01.700 that

01:58:01.860 about

01:58:02.060 could

01:58:02.240 it

01:58:02.320 be

01:58:02.400 this

01:58:02.560 documentary

01:58:03.000 and

01:58:03.220 he

01:58:03.340 said

01:58:03.540 no

01:58:03.920 and

01:58:04.860 then

01:58:05.120 this

01:58:05.360 other

01:58:05.840 thing

01:58:06.120 just

01:58:06.380 dropped

01:58:06.720 and

01:58:07.760 this

01:58:07.920 other

01:58:08.220 thing

01:58:08.620 is

01:58:09.480 a

01:58:10.300 bit

01:58:10.600 from

01:58:11.520 a

01:58:12.180 show

01:58:12.620 called

01:58:13.160 American

01:58:13.800 Alchemy

01:58:14.540 and

01:58:15.700 there's

01:58:15.960 an

01:58:16.160 interview

01:58:16.560 on

01:58:17.740 this

01:58:18.020 show

01:58:18.300 that

01:58:18.560 we

01:58:18.800 expect

01:58:19.100 to

01:58:19.300 drop

01:58:19.540 later

01:58:20.060 tonight

01:58:20.520 and

01:58:21.780 Walter

01:58:22.160 has

01:58:22.400 confirmed

01:58:22.780 to

01:58:23.000 us

01:58:23.200 that

01:58:23.500 this

01:58:23.800 is

01:58:24.100 in

01:58:24.480 part

01:58:24.960 not

01:58:25.880 in

01:58:26.040 whole

01:58:26.260 but

01:58:26.480 in

01:58:26.640 part

01:58:26.920 what

01:58:27.640 he

01:58:27.840 was

01:58:28.100 referring

01:58:28.480 to

01:58:28.880 Victor

01:58:29.780 take

01:58:30.480 a

01:58:30.640 look

01:58:30.800 at

01:58:30.960 this

01:58:31.360 anyway

01:58:33.500 we

01:58:33.720 just

01:58:33.900 sat

01:58:34.140 there

01:58:34.400 and

01:58:34.640 and

01:58:35.200 he

01:58:35.560 unveiled

01:58:36.700 this

01:58:37.420 mind

01:58:40.200 blowing

01:58:40.560 thing

01:58:41.380 to

01:58:41.620 me

01:58:42.000 proceeded

01:58:44.060 to

01:58:44.280 tell

01:58:44.500 me

01:58:44.760 that

01:58:45.220 I

01:58:45.820 was

01:58:46.340 part

01:58:47.320 of

01:58:47.440 a

01:58:47.820 project

01:58:48.260 that

01:58:48.700 started

01:58:49.200 in

01:58:49.440 1960

01:58:50.280 I

01:58:50.520 believe

01:58:50.660 it

01:58:50.800 was

01:58:51.140 and

01:58:51.800 the

01:58:52.840 genesis

01:58:53.280 of it

01:58:53.700 was

01:58:53.920 in

01:58:54.040 1947

01:58:54.600 we

01:58:55.160 came

01:58:55.340 in

01:58:55.480 contact

01:58:55.780 with

01:58:56.020 an

01:58:56.160 alien

01:58:56.380 species

01:58:56.900 and

01:58:57.800 1960

01:58:58.720 they

01:58:59.200 started

01:58:59.680 a

01:59:00.280 project

01:59:01.220 it was

01:59:01.680 called

01:59:01.880 Project

01:59:02.220 Preserve

01:59:02.560 Destiny

01:59:02.900 it

01:59:03.340 was

01:59:03.520 designed

01:59:03.960 to

01:59:04.640 genetically

01:59:05.600 manage

01:59:06.460 fetuses

01:59:07.560 human

01:59:08.340 fetuses

01:59:08.860 so that

01:59:09.560 they

01:59:09.720 would

01:59:09.880 have

01:59:10.060 the

01:59:10.260 heightened

01:59:10.560 ability

01:59:11.040 to

01:59:11.280 do

01:59:11.560 this

01:59:11.880 particular

01:59:12.300 thing

01:59:12.760 that

01:59:13.060 I

01:59:13.400 was

01:59:13.560 going

01:59:13.720 to

01:59:13.860 school

01:59:14.040 for

01:59:14.320 my

01:59:14.840 mother

01:59:15.100 was

01:59:15.340 one

01:59:15.600 of

01:59:15.740 the

01:59:15.980 selected

01:59:16.660 targets

01:59:17.420 or whatever

01:59:17.760 you want

01:59:18.020 to call

01:59:18.300 it

01:59:18.420 the result

01:59:19.200 of it

01:59:19.520 was

01:59:19.800 that

01:59:20.040 it

01:59:20.180 gave

01:59:20.360 me

01:59:20.480 the

01:59:20.620 ability

01:59:20.920 to

01:59:21.340 have

01:59:21.760 this

01:59:22.080 communications

01:59:22.860 that

01:59:25.000 was

01:59:25.300 in

01:59:25.560 order

01:59:25.940 for

01:59:26.400 you

01:59:26.660 to

01:59:26.860 become

01:59:27.420 an

01:59:27.820 intuitive

01:59:28.300 communicator

01:59:29.260 who

01:59:29.660 is

01:59:29.880 basically

01:59:30.820 able

01:59:31.260 to

01:59:31.800 receive

01:59:32.980 messages

01:59:33.480 from

01:59:34.080 well

01:59:34.340 receive

01:59:34.760 and

01:59:35.000 transmit

01:59:35.380 receive

01:59:36.120 and

01:59:36.300 transmit

01:59:36.680 yeah

01:59:36.960 yeah

01:59:37.480 communicate

01:59:37.920 basically

01:59:38.420 back and

01:59:39.160 forth

01:59:39.380 and he's

01:59:39.740 telling you

01:59:40.080 all this

01:59:40.600 yeah

01:59:41.100 he said

01:59:41.800 that's

01:59:42.880 what my

01:59:43.380 job

01:59:43.660 would be

01:59:43.900 doing

01:59:44.200 that's

01:59:45.480 what my

01:59:45.900 job

01:59:46.160 would be

01:59:46.500 to do

01:59:46.920 that

01:59:47.120 yes

01:59:47.420 okay

01:59:50.000 so that

01:59:51.440 there was

01:59:52.320 something

01:59:52.700 called

01:59:53.080 project

01:59:53.760 preserve

01:59:54.360 destiny

01:59:55.020 started

01:59:56.060 in 1960

01:59:57.040 in which

01:59:58.080 they did

01:59:58.560 something

01:59:58.960 to pregnant

01:59:59.700 mothers

02:00:00.140 that he

02:00:01.020 claims

02:00:01.460 heightened

02:00:02.040 the infant's

02:00:03.040 ability

02:00:03.680 to communicate

02:00:04.600 with aliens

02:00:06.080 and that

02:00:07.280 he's been

02:00:07.800 told he

02:00:08.220 was one

02:00:08.680 such

02:00:09.060 person

02:00:10.160 now

02:00:10.920 I'd be

02:00:12.680 laughing at

02:00:13.200 this openly

02:00:13.840 as absurd

02:00:15.020 if it

02:00:15.560 didn't have

02:00:16.180 some sort

02:00:16.980 of blessing

02:00:17.440 from Walter

02:00:18.060 Kern

02:00:18.480 in the

02:00:19.580 form of

02:00:19.880 that tweet

02:00:20.360 because he's

02:00:20.880 he's not

02:00:21.440 crazy

02:00:21.840 he's not

02:00:22.260 a nutcase

02:00:22.900 but I

02:00:24.880 definitely

02:00:25.760 feel this

02:00:26.340 is total

02:00:26.820 bullshit

02:00:27.220 so I'm

02:00:28.260 not exactly

02:00:28.760 sure what's

02:00:29.220 going on

02:00:29.620 here

02:00:29.860 your thoughts

02:00:30.740 I'm kind

02:00:34.080 of with

02:00:34.460 you

02:00:34.760 I wish

02:00:35.400 that when

02:00:35.880 they interviewed

02:00:36.580 him

02:00:37.040 then they

02:00:38.280 showed us

02:00:38.900 an MRI

02:00:39.560 a PET

02:00:40.980 scan

02:00:41.700 and a

02:00:42.240 CT

02:00:42.580 scan

02:00:43.340 and full

02:00:44.440 blood work

02:00:45.260 and then

02:00:46.560 gave us

02:00:47.760 some type

02:00:48.620 of

02:00:49.000 recording

02:00:50.100 or audio

02:00:50.740 version

02:00:51.140 how he

02:00:51.680 could use

02:00:52.180 this unique

02:00:52.720 ability to

02:00:53.520 communicate

02:00:53.940 something

02:00:55.580 just some

02:00:56.620 hard data

02:00:57.620 so

02:00:59.980 I'm not

02:01:01.380 saying that

02:01:01.840 people didn't

02:01:02.360 believe that

02:01:03.080 and they

02:01:03.440 didn't pursue

02:01:04.120 that

02:01:04.580 but it

02:01:05.940 seems like

02:01:06.380 every time

02:01:06.940 somebody sees

02:01:07.780 something

02:01:08.340 or

02:01:09.320 comes forward

02:01:11.400 with an

02:01:12.200 encounter

02:01:12.680 with an

02:01:13.080 alien

02:01:13.440 they don't

02:01:15.560 present

02:01:15.920 enough

02:01:16.260 evidence

02:01:16.820 to convince

02:01:18.320 the

02:01:18.720 skeptical

02:01:19.360 the skeptical

02:01:20.200 are not

02:01:20.780 prejudiced

02:01:21.300 yeah

02:01:21.680 and I'm

02:01:22.480 I'm not

02:01:23.180 biased either

02:01:23.860 way

02:01:24.100 I'm willing

02:01:24.640 and eager

02:01:25.240 to be

02:01:25.880 persuaded

02:01:27.400 the thing

02:01:27.840 that

02:01:28.520 what I

02:01:28.980 I think

02:01:29.620 they don't

02:01:30.740 fully

02:01:31.220 appreciate

02:01:31.920 sometimes

02:01:32.540 is that

02:01:33.080 if what

02:01:34.020 they're saying

02:01:34.700 is true 0.89

02:01:35.360 it

02:01:36.540 it remakes

02:01:37.480 everything

02:01:38.020 because you

02:01:39.160 go back

02:01:39.660 through all

02:01:40.160 of history

02:01:40.740 then

02:01:41.100 and you

02:01:41.440 say

02:01:41.660 these

02:01:41.860 people

02:01:42.140 were

02:01:42.340 communicating

02:01:42.860 with

02:01:43.180 humans

02:01:43.600 and imparting

02:01:44.820 knowledge

02:01:45.240 and this

02:01:45.600 just accounts

02:01:46.360 for that

02:01:47.000 and this

02:01:47.700 and this

02:01:48.540 technological

02:01:49.180 this

02:01:50.620 and wars

02:01:51.760 and all

02:01:53.060 of these

02:01:53.480 it affects

02:01:54.640 religion

02:01:55.260 Christianity

02:01:56.040 Buddhism 0.96

02:01:57.000 Islam

02:01:57.800 it affects

02:01:58.420 everything

02:01:59.040 it would be

02:01:59.940 a totality

02:02:00.800 of

02:02:01.540 a remaking

02:02:04.020 of

02:02:04.820 assumed

02:02:05.480 knowledge

02:02:06.140 of empiricism

02:02:07.280 of technology

02:02:08.520 of religion

02:02:09.360 of politics

02:02:10.600 everything

02:02:11.940 if you

02:02:12.860 if you

02:02:13.280 were going

02:02:13.520 to tell

02:02:13.780 the American

02:02:14.160 people

02:02:14.620 well your

02:02:15.020 government

02:02:15.580 65 years

02:02:18.460 ago

02:02:18.760 knew about

02:02:19.440 aliens

02:02:19.840 and they

02:02:20.060 had a

02:02:20.300 special

02:02:20.600 division

02:02:21.040 and they

02:02:21.500 genetically

02:02:22.340 altered

02:02:22.760 people

02:02:23.120 to communicate

02:02:23.840 with these

02:02:24.400 people

02:02:24.720 and they

02:02:24.940 didn't tell

02:02:25.460 you

02:02:25.680 that would

02:02:26.020 be

02:02:26.300 something

02:02:26.900 but then

02:02:27.880 the other

02:02:28.340 thing

02:02:28.560 finally

02:02:28.920 is

02:02:29.240 well

02:02:30.200 if he

02:02:30.960 had that

02:02:31.380 ability

02:02:31.800 will he

02:02:32.180 please

02:02:32.520 tell me

02:02:33.040 what they

02:02:33.640 said

02:02:33.940 to him

02:02:34.420 or

02:02:35.020 what

02:02:35.360 were the

02:02:35.800 communications

02:02:36.520 does he

02:02:37.160 have a

02:02:37.420 text

02:02:37.900 where he

02:02:38.640 transcribed

02:02:39.280 it

02:02:39.460 or did he

02:02:39.820 go in a

02:02:40.200 room

02:02:40.400 if they

02:02:40.660 took all

02:02:41.100 the trouble

02:02:41.460 to

02:02:41.660 yeah

02:02:41.960 what are

02:02:42.120 they saying

02:02:42.460 right now

02:02:42.940 yeah

02:02:43.820 they genetically

02:02:44.660 altered him

02:02:45.460 so then he

02:02:45.960 could communicate

02:02:46.640 and they

02:02:47.620 thought it was

02:02:48.080 successful

02:02:48.660 then they

02:02:49.060 put him

02:02:49.380 in a room

02:02:49.760 obviously

02:02:50.240 and he

02:02:50.960 talked

02:02:51.740 or they

02:02:52.060 looked at

02:02:52.400 brainwaves

02:02:53.020 and they

02:02:53.260 could see

02:02:53.620 it

02:02:53.740 and then

02:02:53.980 just give

02:02:54.480 us the

02:02:54.760 data

02:02:55.040 that's all

02:02:55.600 yeah

02:02:56.540 maybe

02:02:57.060 maybe

02:02:57.080 maybe

02:02:57.100 they

02:02:57.560 did

02:02:57.780 to

02:02:57.940 Walter

02:02:58.180 Kern

02:02:58.460 I

02:02:58.640 don't

02:02:58.780 know

02:02:59.020 but

02:02:59.240 I'm

02:02:59.420 still

02:02:59.660 skeptical

02:03:00.060 sorry

02:03:00.600 maybe

02:03:01.060 Walter's

02:03:01.720 one of

02:03:02.020 them

02:03:02.180 maybe

02:03:02.560 he's

02:03:02.820 part

02:03:03.020 of

02:03:03.120 the

02:03:03.340 experiment

02:03:04.300 we're

02:03:05.340 laughing

02:03:05.700 because we

02:03:06.700 don't have

02:03:07.060 all the

02:03:07.460 information

02:03:08.000 I would

02:03:08.940 say that

02:03:09.360 he's

02:03:09.560 unique

02:03:09.980 in some

02:03:10.400 ways

02:03:10.620 he's

02:03:10.820 superhuman

02:03:11.380 but he's

02:03:11.980 not a

02:03:12.360 deity

02:03:12.660 so

02:03:13.460 no

02:03:13.720 not that

02:03:14.440 we know

02:03:14.700 of

02:03:16.340 the

02:03:18.160 alleged

02:03:20.860 program

02:03:21.900 you know

02:03:22.960 that they're

02:03:23.220 talking about

02:03:23.680 in here

02:03:24.040 does remind

02:03:25.320 me of

02:03:25.780 something

02:03:26.240 someone

02:03:26.840 I care

02:03:28.040 about

02:03:28.440 during

02:03:29.560 COVID

02:03:29.920 you know

02:03:30.180 how some

02:03:30.520 people went

02:03:31.040 like a little

02:03:31.620 got a little

02:03:32.920 out there

02:03:33.340 during COVID

02:03:34.400 this person

02:03:34.980 was one of

02:03:36.080 those like

02:03:36.580 the grid

02:03:37.960 the electrical

02:03:38.640 grid is

02:03:39.120 going to

02:03:39.300 go down

02:03:40.020 you should

02:03:40.500 print out

02:03:40.880 all the

02:03:41.300 maps

02:03:41.700 and all

02:03:42.040 that

02:03:42.340 and I

02:03:43.480 said to

02:03:43.800 this person

02:03:44.180 where'd you

02:03:44.540 get your

02:03:44.840 information

02:03:45.240 from

02:03:45.640 and this

02:03:46.200 person

02:03:46.420 said

02:03:46.700 this guy

02:03:47.340 I follow

02:03:47.700 on YouTube

02:03:48.200 and forwarded

02:03:50.000 me a clip

02:03:50.840 of the guy

02:03:51.200 on YouTube

02:03:51.640 and it was

02:03:52.720 like this

02:03:53.020 British guy

02:03:53.720 who's claiming

02:03:54.240 he was a

02:03:54.700 former spy

02:03:55.380 and his

02:03:56.700 sources were

02:03:57.900 saying the

02:03:58.440 grid was

02:03:58.760 going to

02:03:58.920 go down

02:03:59.320 he had

02:03:59.560 on good

02:03:59.820 authority

02:04:00.240 and it

02:04:01.520 took me

02:04:01.840 about two

02:04:02.300 minutes to

02:04:02.800 find another

02:04:03.680 video of

02:04:04.360 this guy

02:04:04.880 claiming

02:04:05.440 that he

02:04:07.280 doesn't

02:04:07.640 call it

02:04:08.240 an alien

02:04:09.360 abduction

02:04:09.820 because he

02:04:10.360 wanted to

02:04:10.880 go but

02:04:12.180 when taken

02:04:13.040 by the

02:04:13.640 spaceship

02:04:14.060 he enjoyed

02:04:15.540 the trip

02:04:16.020 because he

02:04:16.860 lost his

02:04:17.620 virginity to

02:04:18.820 a hologram

02:04:20.100 version of

02:04:20.940 his own

02:04:21.540 mother

02:04:21.940 and I

02:04:24.080 sent that

02:04:24.900 to my

02:04:25.240 friend and

02:04:25.800 said just

02:04:27.320 so you

02:04:27.740 know this

02:04:28.400 is the

02:04:28.640 person that

02:04:29.860 put that

02:04:30.820 out there

02:04:31.280 and my

02:04:31.920 friend said

02:04:32.580 okay got

02:04:33.260 it got

02:04:33.740 it

02:04:33.980 but people

02:04:36.460 make crazy

02:04:37.400 claims like

02:04:38.260 all the

02:04:38.740 time regarding

02:04:39.560 aliens and

02:04:40.260 I do think

02:04:40.800 there's I

02:04:41.360 mean I don't

02:04:41.780 know Victor I

02:04:42.240 think there's a

02:04:42.640 fair amount of

02:04:43.060 people forgive me I

02:04:43.840 don't know anything

02:04:44.260 about this man maybe

02:04:45.040 I'll be persuaded

02:04:45.980 Steve tells me this

02:04:47.460 American alchemy thing

02:04:49.000 just dropped it's

02:04:49.700 three hours long on

02:04:50.480 YouTube maybe we'll

02:04:51.840 watch it and we'll

02:04:52.400 both be true

02:04:53.100 believers but I

02:04:54.780 think there's a

02:04:55.340 high level of

02:04:56.120 people who are on

02:04:57.820 the edge of

02:04:59.080 like fully

02:05:01.000 not sane but

02:05:03.300 like they're

02:05:04.880 very tempted by

02:05:05.960 things like this

02:05:06.680 there's something

02:05:07.160 that's very

02:05:07.760 alluring about

02:05:09.200 things like this

02:05:10.060 without evidence

02:05:10.800 yes what I

02:05:12.320 would if I

02:05:13.220 were to assess

02:05:14.160 this is a

02:05:15.820 disinterested

02:05:16.380 historian or

02:05:17.120 something what

02:05:17.680 the status of

02:05:18.440 the question is

02:05:19.140 on UFOs I

02:05:20.480 would say the

02:05:21.600 needle has moved

02:05:22.600 because there

02:05:23.340 are 30 years

02:05:25.260 ago the people 0.92

02:05:25.880 who were claiming

02:05:26.580 this were

02:05:27.040 suspicious or

02:05:28.160 they were kind

02:05:28.820 of conspiracy

02:05:29.540 theories and

02:05:30.840 now for

02:05:32.360 whatever reason

02:05:33.160 that knowledge

02:05:33.940 is filtered

02:05:34.460 into the

02:05:34.960 mainstream so

02:05:35.600 when you see

02:05:36.040 Marco Rubio

02:05:36.860 or a respected

02:05:38.440 and bright writer

02:05:39.540 Walter Kern

02:05:40.480 that has

02:05:41.400 influence but

02:05:42.540 it's not going

02:05:43.520 to go over to

02:05:44.240 the other side

02:05:45.160 the needle to

02:05:46.680 belief until

02:05:47.840 people are going

02:05:49.220 to have to

02:05:50.020 present not just

02:05:51.060 film that can

02:05:51.720 be doctored or

02:05:52.800 testimonial but

02:05:54.700 actual hard

02:05:56.340 data this is a

02:05:58.360 alien corpse

02:05:59.480 he's here

02:06:00.380 look at it

02:06:01.040 biologically

02:06:01.620 here's the

02:06:02.200 deal it

02:06:02.500 doesn't make

02:06:03.000 or this is

02:06:04.100 an alien ship

02:06:05.580 and these are

02:06:06.040 the materials

02:06:06.680 in it and

02:06:07.320 show the public

02:06:08.220 at that point

02:06:09.260 and that hasn't

02:06:10.020 happened and

02:06:11.200 then when you

02:06:12.500 ask that data

02:06:13.340 everybody says

02:06:14.080 well you can't

02:06:14.680 do that it's

02:06:16.440 top secret it's

02:06:17.800 classified well

02:06:18.680 why is it

02:06:19.080 classified

02:06:19.280 yeah you heard

02:06:19.400 them saying

02:06:19.820 that in the

02:06:20.320 trailer even

02:06:21.300 the president

02:06:21.780 only gets

02:06:22.340 information on a

02:06:23.040 need to know

02:06:23.480 I don't believe

02:06:24.380 that I don't

02:06:25.320 believe that the

02:06:26.260 president can get

02:06:26.940 anything he wants

02:06:27.900 if he wants it

02:06:28.760 and I just it's

02:06:31.840 on the I I

02:06:33.500 but I believe a lot

02:06:34.840 of conspiracies I

02:06:35.780 was told right

02:06:36.720 during COVID I

02:06:37.720 think it was in

02:06:38.240 February we had a

02:06:39.920 brilliant neurobiologist

02:06:41.600 Stephen Quay and I

02:06:42.760 had him on my

02:06:43.300 podcast and he said

02:06:45.240 when everybody said

02:06:46.480 it's a pangolin it's

02:06:47.820 a bat he said no he

02:06:49.600 had looked at the

02:06:50.220 DNA he was a very

02:06:51.480 accomplished biogeneticist

02:06:54.300 he says this had

02:06:55.860 about seven out of

02:06:57.000 a million chances

02:06:58.040 for you know the

02:07:00.040 Cleaveridge site

02:07:00.840 everything and then

02:07:02.020 he said Anthony

02:07:03.820 Fauci is not being

02:07:05.200 candid Peter Daszak

02:07:06.980 who was at the

02:07:07.540 height of his

02:07:08.340 reputation and

02:07:11.060 echo health they

02:07:13.380 transferred some

02:07:14.660 knowledge against the

02:07:16.000 law to them they

02:07:17.720 rerouted it through

02:07:18.720 echo health they had

02:07:19.700 a six hundred

02:07:20.200 thousand dollar grant

02:07:21.160 and more importantly

02:07:22.280 they were green

02:07:23.020 lighting materials

02:07:24.180 instrumentation and

02:07:26.240 informal things to the

02:07:28.900 Wuhan lab and the

02:07:30.420 Wuhan lab had denied

02:07:32.020 Wuhan the city had

02:07:33.920 denied any travel

02:07:35.200 anywhere in China at a

02:07:37.180 time where you could

02:07:38.040 travel to any European

02:07:39.260 city or American

02:07:41.140 cities when you were

02:07:42.020 infected and that and

02:07:43.700 I was very skeptical at

02:07:45.920 first but everything he

02:07:47.440 said was contrary to

02:07:49.360 what our FDA HHS NIH was

02:07:54.440 telling us Fauci and

02:07:56.000 everything he said was

02:07:57.120 absolutely true it was

02:07:58.860 all confirmed so I I'm

02:08:01.380 you know what I mean I

02:08:02.380 when I'm not it's not

02:08:03.560 just that a theory is a

02:08:05.100 conspiracy theories came

02:08:06.140 true yes but you need

02:08:08.180 but what he did and they

02:08:09.320 didn't do with the UFO he

02:08:11.940 produced all of the

02:08:13.160 genetic sequence and he

02:08:14.860 showed and he brought data

02:08:16.340 and he and I had him on

02:08:17.680 twice and I know him very

02:08:19.080 well now and he's Stephen

02:08:20.900 Quay is a brilliant

02:08:21.800 respected person but more

02:08:23.300 importantly that's not

02:08:24.220 enough he presented data

02:08:26.120 he wrote a book Roger

02:08:27.660 Kimball encounter published

02:08:29.060 it and same thing was

02:08:31.060 Scott Atlas he was

02:08:33.200 ridiculed he said if you

02:08:34.560 shut down the the system

02:08:36.860 you're going to have more

02:08:37.920 damage than the COVID and

02:08:40.560 COVID people that are young 1.00

02:08:42.380 up till 18 will not suffer

02:08:44.020 the same and it was all

02:08:45.340 based on data and

02:08:46.760 everybody ostracized him

02:08:48.220 and they were unfair to

02:08:49.140 him everything he said

02:08:50.380 was true they tried to

02:08:51.960 ruin him but wait let me

02:08:53.300 show you something this

02:08:54.060 this is this got me

02:08:55.000 thinking about this film

02:08:57.420 and I interviewed the

02:08:59.320 stars of this film and I

02:09:00.380 highly recommend this

02:09:01.520 film in fact Ben Shapiro

02:09:02.740 does this thing it's like

02:09:05.560 friends with benefits or

02:09:06.720 something like that I

02:09:07.300 can't remember what he

02:09:07.660 calls it but he asks

02:09:08.960 people to make a

02:09:09.600 recommendation for him to

02:09:10.640 watch and then he'll

02:09:12.540 review it and some of it

02:09:14.000 his friends pick

02:09:14.780 absolutely terrible

02:09:16.160 movies that just to

02:09:17.380 torture poor Ben and

02:09:18.880 it's kind of a funny

02:09:19.500 gig but also some

02:09:21.180 people offer like legit

02:09:22.600 movies and I chose the

02:09:24.620 latter route when he

02:09:25.300 asked me to do it and

02:09:26.620 this is the movie I

02:09:27.640 recommended and I

02:09:28.500 recommend it to all of

02:09:29.260 you it's called three

02:09:30.500 identical strangers and

02:09:32.700 it's it's on you can get

02:09:34.040 on Amazon Prime among

02:09:35.260 others right now and I

02:09:37.280 had on the stars of this

02:09:39.380 documentary my show when

02:09:40.780 I was at NBC and it was

02:09:42.660 one of the most memorable

02:09:43.600 incredible stories I've

02:09:46.340 ever covered we pulled a

02:09:48.680 little bit from the

02:09:49.580 trailer I'm going

02:09:50.480 somewhere with this

02:09:51.200 here's a little bit of

02:09:52.180 the trailer it was the

02:09:54.640 first day of school all

02:09:55.820 these people are coming

02:09:56.500 up to me saying Eddie

02:09:57.600 how are you Eddie hi

02:09:59.460 I'm like my name is not

02:10:00.420 Eddie I don't know what

02:10:01.160 you're talking about

02:10:02.020 soon as this guy turned

02:10:03.160 around I knew it was

02:10:04.680 Eddie's double I said

02:10:05.760 you're not gonna believe

02:10:06.620 this you have a twin

02:10:07.500 brother oh my god

02:10:10.720 as I reached out to

02:10:15.140 knock on the door it

02:10:15.980 opens and there I am his

02:10:18.460 eyes are my eyes my eyes

02:10:19.920 are his eyes and it's

02:10:21.320 true and then the story

02:10:22.820 went from being amazing

02:10:23.980 to incredible it was an

02:10:25.660 article to twins reunited

02:10:27.180 I think I might be the

02:10:29.740 third when people ask me

02:10:33.260 what is the most remarkable

02:10:35.000 story you ever encountered

02:10:36.720 I tell them it's the story

02:10:38.140 of the triplets three

02:10:40.940 identical strangers and

02:10:43.600 this is a spoiler alert and

02:10:46.360 you really should like turn

02:10:48.260 down the volume for a

02:10:49.060 second if you don't want to

02:10:49.780 have the spoiler of this

02:10:50.800 movie but it's been out

02:10:51.920 now for you know almost 10

02:10:53.160 years so I think I'm okay

02:10:54.240 saying but what is

02:10:56.220 uncovered in this movie

02:10:58.140 this documentary it's it's

02:10:59.560 true to life is that in

02:11:02.440 the 1960s there was an

02:11:05.160 experiment done on twins and

02:11:08.240 triplets and they had a

02:11:10.800 mother who was pregnant

02:11:11.760 with three baby boys and

02:11:14.480 she gave them to an

02:11:16.800 adoption agency she gave

02:11:18.240 them up to an adoption

02:11:19.060 agency and this adoption

02:11:20.920 agency worked with the

02:11:23.140 government to study forgive

02:11:26.880 me I think it was the

02:11:27.720 government pretty sure it was

02:11:28.400 the government but work to

02:11:29.760 study these sets of twins and

02:11:32.920 triplets to figure out the

02:11:35.140 nature versus nurture

02:11:36.620 question there was this

02:11:37.920 scientist who was trying to

02:11:39.660 figure out nature versus

02:11:40.500 nurture if we take these

02:11:41.480 triplets and separate them 0.62

02:11:42.900 and put them in very

02:11:44.280 different families very

02:11:45.880 different culturally

02:11:46.940 religiously financially

02:11:48.480 will they wind up the same

02:11:50.580 as each other like will

02:11:52.840 they have the same inherent

02:11:53.880 sort of traits when they're

02:11:54.940 age 30 or will they be

02:11:56.880 totally different because

02:11:58.100 nurture is more important

02:11:59.700 right and that was the

02:12:01.240 experiment and I'll let you

02:12:02.620 watch the documentary to

02:12:03.580 figure out what they

02:12:04.740 concluded because it's

02:12:05.480 actually very interesting

02:12:06.240 but my point is they were

02:12:09.260 conducting experiments on

02:12:11.360 babies without anybody's

02:12:14.140 consent without the consent

02:12:15.620 of the birth parents that the

02:12:18.240 birth parents didn't know

02:12:19.300 without the consent of the

02:12:20.360 adopted parents who were

02:12:22.460 kept in the dark about the

02:12:23.600 full nature of what was

02:12:24.400 going on they were misled

02:12:25.360 too as people actually came

02:12:27.440 to their homes year after

02:12:29.700 year to study the children

02:12:32.660 without disclosing that they

02:12:34.780 had a twin someplace or a

02:12:36.140 triplet sibling someplace it's

02:12:39.020 a crazy ass story so when I 0.53

02:12:42.180 hear this guy say in 1960 they

02:12:45.340 decided to experiment on babies

02:12:47.560 in utero to see if they could

02:12:49.060 possibly like can I discount

02:12:51.200 that absolutely I cannot no I I

02:12:55.460 I I know that's true I had a

02:12:58.680 mother who grew up in the same

02:13:00.920 house that I'm speaking to in

02:13:03.000 she was the third generation so

02:13:05.760 she went they had no money but

02:13:08.100 she and her sister went to

02:13:09.460 Stanford University and then she

02:13:11.420 went to Stanford Law School in the

02:13:12.620 1940s was kind of unusual and they

02:13:15.700 said that she was very her my

02:13:19.120 mother's name was Davis and they

02:13:21.000 were Welch and she was very 0.93

02:13:22.300 light-skinned and she had acne so

02:13:25.260 they said at Stanford University

02:13:26.680 they had a new program it was

02:13:28.220 brand new and it was going to

02:13:30.500 have x-rays on people on young

02:13:33.080 women's skin face and she went in 1.00

02:13:36.020 for 50 treatments and 50 x-rays yes

02:13:41.260 on her face too and this was this

02:13:43.760 was too and then oh 1980 she got a

02:13:50.300 letter and said that we have examined

02:13:52.600 this and out of the x number of

02:13:54.920 people this many people got cancer

02:13:57.440 and she had she was healthy she was

02:14:00.420 the first second woman appellate

02:14:03.680 court judge in California second

02:14:05.200 woman to be a superior court judge in 0.99

02:14:07.240 Fresno County and sure enough about

02:14:09.800 four years later she had a meningioma

02:14:12.180 brain tumor and they said don't worry

02:14:14.220 it has nothing to do with that study

02:14:15.580 it's benign and she died two years

02:14:17.960 later and it was malignant and so if

02:14:23.380 you would ask my family my

02:14:25.940 grandfather was always proud he was

02:14:27.640 very poor but he had three daughters

02:14:29.780 and he said I want them to be

02:14:31.820 educated nobody in our family's ever

02:14:33.300 gone to college at that time Stanford

02:14:35.500 was the college so he sent his two

02:14:38.360 girls one of them was crippled with

02:14:40.460 polio she wasn't able to go and they

02:14:42.680 both got bachelor's and advanced

02:14:44.920 degrees and they were professional

02:14:46.520 women and they loved Stanford 0.99

02:14:49.100 University they thought anything

02:14:50.480 about it was wonderful but to be told

02:14:52.760 when you were in your early 60s and

02:14:57.000 you were just coming in she was there

02:14:58.860 were rumors she might be in this

02:15:00.200 California Supreme Court to be told

02:15:02.820 that this process she didn't even know

02:15:05.580 what x-rays were they just said it'll

02:15:07.660 get rid of your acne and then to be

02:15:11.500 told that she that there were people in

02:15:13.300 this study and she should be checked 0.80

02:15:15.020 and then I think it was not more than a

02:15:18.140 year or two later she got a brain tumor

02:15:20.180 and so that's awful your point is did

02:15:23.840 they do things like that yes and did

02:15:26.080 they tell people no they did not and

02:15:29.580 you know I live on a rule it out like

02:15:33.300 we can't look at this story from only a

02:15:35.260 2025 perspective and say nah they would

02:15:37.860 never do that they were doing crazy

02:15:39.840 things yes and I can give you one more

02:15:42.060 quickly I grew up on this farm when I

02:15:45.360 was told that paraquat was a toxic

02:15:47.640 herbicide and be very careful with it

02:15:50.600 but there was a new

02:15:51.800 giflo phosphate alternative called

02:15:55.620 roundup and it was completely safe it was

02:15:58.340 not tack toxic because it was natural

02:16:00.780 salts so I had my kids and their job was

02:16:05.380 to get on a tractor and go around and

02:16:08.960 spray weeds in the vineyard and the

02:16:10.700 orchard on this big spray rig and they

02:16:13.040 were only like 12 and 14 they were

02:16:15.540 really hard-working kids and I would try

02:16:18.980 to tell them I you better wear gloves but

02:16:21.760 they said you know it's roundup everybody

02:16:23.340 uses roundup so if you got it on no I

02:16:26.280 must have been bathed in roundup myself I

02:16:29.520 put it on for 20 years I got it all over

02:16:32.940 myself but they were young and you know

02:16:36.640 and my daughter suddenly called me one

02:16:38.980 day from she was working at USC and she

02:16:41.340 said she was at her office and she

02:16:43.380 couldn't see and I drove down there and

02:16:47.480 she had an advanced form of leukemia and

02:16:50.100 died in 48 hours and then I start

02:16:54.560 reading that roundup exposure you know

02:16:56.880 can cause lymphomas and blood cancers I

02:16:59.760 have no idea but the point is when it

02:17:02.060 came out on the market it was advertised

02:17:04.300 as a not a class one permit only

02:17:08.780 herbicide you can get it at you know I

02:17:11.260 still use it you can get it at Home

02:17:12.620 Depot I have no idea if that had a

02:17:14.320 connection but my point is the way that

02:17:16.800 it was advertised was it was completely

02:17:19.960 safe and it it wasn't I don't think I

02:17:25.500 don't know if there's a connection I

02:17:26.600 don't want to make an unfounded

02:17:27.800 allegation although there's been lawsuits

02:17:29.560 where people won because they did

02:17:32.220 demonstrate yeah they to a jury that it

02:17:34.940 that it caused blood cancer but you're

02:17:37.880 absolutely right that governments and

02:17:40.140 respected institutions corporations say

02:17:42.780 things at the time and they don't just

02:17:45.060 say them they say unequivocally as my mom

02:17:48.060 my dad said I remember why would you have

02:17:50.220 x-ray she goes I didn't even know what

02:17:51.540 they were they just said it's a new

02:17:53.620 treatment and she said and he was dating

02:17:57.360 her and he said well you were always

02:17:58.540 sunburned and she said that was good that

02:18:00.600 was the treatment they said the more

02:18:02.400 sunburned you were the better the acne

02:18:04.260 would go away and so all of and we know

02:18:07.460 about the Tuskegee syphilis experiment

02:18:09.680 where African-American men were given

02:18:11.620 syphilis when not without their knowledge

02:18:14.180 so I think it's always wise to be skeptical

02:18:18.300 of authority of the establishment of

02:18:21.620 people in government whether where they're

02:18:23.660 not accountable of people who have

02:18:25.040 prestigious names or institutions that we

02:18:27.660 all think we don't dare say anything about

02:18:29.460 Harvard Yale Stanford and what I've seen of

02:18:32.500 all these institutions they're just people

02:18:34.040 and they're no better or no worse than

02:18:35.540 anybody else and often they're capable if

02:18:38.400 you give them an exemption that you can't

02:18:40.380 criticize them or investigate then they

02:18:42.400 take the advantage of that so I'm open to

02:18:45.600 everything just what you said I have no

02:18:48.200 doubt that they did that with with twins

02:18:52.500 and and I know from my own family here on

02:18:56.260 a farm for six generations and we went

02:18:58.900 through the whole from 1870 when they

02:19:01.160 started until now every iteration of

02:19:05.160 chemicals my grandfather would say use

02:19:06.840 nicotine powder it won't hurt you at all

02:19:09.220 to kill leafhoppers and then my mother 0.76

02:19:12.880 said well they said arsenic is absolutely

02:19:15.680 perfect as a herbicide we all use our

02:19:18.460 arsenic and DDT was a big thing when I was

02:19:21.840 a kid you know it doesn't it doesn't make

02:19:24.300 you sick like anything else and we had DD

02:19:27.180 powder everywhere on the for as a pesticide

02:19:31.680 so and then paraquat was parathione was

02:19:34.960 absolutely when I was growing up parathione

02:19:37.800 was you know it's deadly but people use it

02:19:40.440 all the time and it was Saigon B it was

02:19:43.240 basically a derivative of what German

02:19:46.320 chemical companies had used during the

02:19:48.140 Holocaust so gracious and not to mention

02:19:52.040 what the farmers go through and then what's

02:19:54.360 going on the food that's that's going yes

02:19:56.400 and when we went we went very organic very

02:19:58.740 early like 1980 at farmers markets and

02:20:01.840 people come over and say you're crazy

02:20:03.800 there's no danger and but yeah you had the

02:20:08.820 last laugh on that one well that's what

02:20:10.340 Robert Kennedy's trying to do right now

02:20:12.320 that's why I'm very sympathetic yeah I think

02:20:15.200 anybody who grew up on a farm in the 1950s

02:20:17.720 and 60s and remember what people told you

02:20:19.900 that they always had pest advisors that

02:20:22.700 would come out and even when I was farming

02:20:24.980 full-time in the 80s they would come out

02:20:26.560 and say I remember I got this pesticide all

02:20:30.580 over my hand the pump blew up and it would

02:20:32.760 turn orange from from my elbow to my wrist

02:20:36.100 and I could taste it from the skin it would

02:20:39.160 taste like salmon and I told the pest

02:20:42.140 advisor is I won't name the name because

02:20:44.520 it's not used anymore and he said oh no no

02:20:46.600 that's nothing that is nothing you didn't

02:20:49.560 know you know you don't need over calls

02:20:51.420 that's just too hot you don't need to have

02:20:53.620 a helmet or a breather and I was sick for

02:20:56.120 about six months from that oh my gosh

02:20:58.980 well thank God you switched to organic I

02:21:00.840 mean that's like that's that's how we've

02:21:02.540 been living and eating in this country and

02:21:04.080 our food supply which is I mean for some

02:21:06.980 weird reason the left wants to attack

02:21:08.920 Robert F Kennedy for trying to get that

02:21:10.720 stuff banned and out of our food supply

02:21:12.340 thank God he's doing it I got to run but

02:21:14.660 I'm so glad that we had this conversation

02:21:16.560 this is actually a very intellectually stimulating

02:21:18.580 half an hour thank you for staying

02:21:20.080 overtime and I guess we'll watch this

02:21:23.380 show and we'll have part two after we

02:21:26.220 both do Victor thank you thank you

02:21:28.420 Megan Wow amazing right I mean like what

02:21:32.000 do you think do you believe could it could

02:21:34.320 it be or do you think this is all like

02:21:37.300 made up stuff for people who've been

02:21:39.680 misled or who are I don't know more

02:21:42.540 conspiratorial and lean into these stories

02:21:44.260 without enough proof let me know the

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 17, 2025

Mamdani vs. Cuomo, Michelle Obama's New Whining, and Bombshell UFO Reporting, with Victor Davis Hanson ｜ Ep 1174

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