The Megyn Kelly Show - Mark Halperin on Biden Cover-Up, Link Lauren on Mulvaney and Melania, Maureen Callahan on Harry and Meghan： MK Media Highlights

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00:01:00.000 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:03.260 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.720 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:01:14.340 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.480 And today's MK Media bonus episode.

00:01:18.740 We have three shows now launched as part of our MK Media network all within the past four weeks.

00:01:24.980 And thank you for making them all a huge success.

00:01:28.840 I know that's our audience.

00:01:31.000 And I am grateful to you because I know you love these guys and you're giving them a chance.

00:01:35.940 And I think that's awesome.

00:01:37.380 Today we are bringing you some highlights from MK Media this week.

00:01:40.860 First up is Next Up with Mark Halperin.

00:01:43.620 Mark, as you know, is a very fair, objective reporter in a sea of liars.

00:01:47.400 And this week he proved it again, going in-depth on his knowledge of Joe Biden's cognitive decline,

00:01:52.420 going back to 2017 in the wake of the new book from Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson.

00:01:57.480 Launching this week was our latest offering that's spot on with Link Lauren.

00:02:01.260 It's crushing it on the Apple charts.

00:02:03.860 And Link launched his show with a hilarious deep dive dissection of Dylan Mulvaney like only he can.

00:02:10.840 And then there's The Nerve with Maureen Callahan, which is on fire.

00:02:15.440 Already over 100,000 subscribers on YouTube.

00:02:18.280 That's amazing.

00:02:19.420 This week she took on Harry and Meghan.

00:02:21.060 We love Maureen on Harry and Meghan, not to mention Taylor Swift and Blake Lively.

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00:02:36.500 Got a little sample of all three.

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00:03:50.100 And next up for us is my hope that people in my profession and the media can do a better job.

00:03:58.100 The credibility of the media is vital to our country.

00:04:01.940 And today we're going to look at a case study,

00:04:04.260 an example of an area that's, I think, indicative of where we are.

00:04:09.320 It's a new book, Original Sin, and it's a book by two journalists.

00:04:13.360 One is a guy named Alex Thompson,

00:04:14.780 who was one of the most energetic and aggressive reporters in covering Joe Biden's mental decline.

00:04:20.720 And the other author is a guy named Jake Kapper, who's an anchor at CNN.

00:04:24.600 And what I want to do today is to explain to you why this book represents a crisis

00:04:30.200 and maybe, maybe an opportunity for the American media to regain credibility with the public.

00:04:36.660 This goes back to the question of Joe Biden's mental decline.

00:04:39.500 And I continue to laugh when I hear people say, we didn't know, and it was,

00:04:44.860 we only had a hint of it, or we saw it in the debate, but not before.

00:04:48.220 That's something reporters sometimes say, and a lot of Democratic officials say.

00:04:52.400 It's a, it's a farce.

00:04:54.800 So I've covered Joe Biden and know Joe Biden for pretty much my whole career.

00:04:59.400 And in 2017, just after he left the White House, he had a book out and he was on a book tour.

00:05:04.900 And I saw him do a book event, very friendly interviewer, big crowd.

00:05:09.720 And he was a train wreck.

00:05:13.100 He was glassy eyed.

00:05:14.040 He had trouble following the conversation.

00:05:15.580 He talked to tauntingly.

00:05:16.740 Again, this is 2017, long before he ran for president in 2020.

00:05:21.940 And I said, after the event, thank goodness, Joe Biden's out of the, out of office.

00:05:26.120 Thank goodness.

00:05:26.480 He's no longer going to be in public life.

00:05:28.600 And how could his family and his advisors possibly let him go on a book tour when he was in no position to be on a public stage?

00:05:36.720 2017.

00:05:37.720 Now, I'm not a doctor.

00:05:39.600 I know Joe Biden decently well, but I, there are plenty of people who know him better.

00:05:44.040 I couldn't believe he ran for president in 2020.

00:05:47.100 And so to me, his mental decline was apparent in 2017.

00:05:51.000 And now what you have is a bunch of people who say it was only apparent to them on the day of the debate in the 2024 campaign.

00:05:59.500 The reason this new book is causing such an uproar, even though it's not out until next week, is because the book purports to explain the cover up inside the White House.

00:06:09.440 The cover up inside the White House of Joe Biden's mental decline.

00:06:12.180 I don't understand how there could be a cover up of something that was on television on a nearly nightly basis in, in either Joe Biden's performance, which was uneven.

00:06:20.440 There were times when he was fine.

00:06:21.520 We've all seen people with mental decline.

00:06:23.800 We know that sometimes things are better than others, but it was on TV every night.

00:06:27.880 And in 2020 and 2024, it was also on TV when Joe Biden wasn't there.

00:06:33.040 He was not visible.

00:06:34.300 And the ability to have credibility to cover presidents was undermined significantly from 2024 back to 2019, at least.

00:06:45.220 Today, Donald Trump, there's so many things that need scrutiny.

00:06:48.780 His acceptance of this airplane, his family's business dealings in the Middle East with the very monarchies that he's meeting with on this trip.

00:06:56.600 I could go on.

00:06:57.800 For those in this country who say the press is not doing a tough enough job scrutinizing Donald Trump, I agree.

00:07:03.600 The press should always be super tough.

00:07:06.000 But what's happened is because of what the way they covered Joe Biden, the press has lost credibility with the public.

00:07:12.080 So why is this significant?

00:07:13.640 Today, this news of this new book has come leaking out to news organizations reporting on it.

00:07:21.040 One is The Guardian, which got a copy of the book, and they report that a lot of Democrats are very unhappy that Joe Biden kept running and he should have gotten out of the race and that and that there was efforts to cover up for him.

00:07:31.900 Another report from Alex Thompson, who now writes for Axios, he wrote for Politico previously, says that there was discussion within the Biden camp of perhaps Biden needing a wheelchair.

00:07:42.940 But he couldn't use a wheelchair during the campaign and that if he won reelection, there was talk he would use it then.

00:07:49.060 That's interesting. Those are interesting things.

00:07:51.040 I don't doubt. I don't doubt either of those things are true.

00:07:53.540 But it's this question of accountability, this question of did reporters do everything they could to hold Joe Biden and his team accountable for his obvious decline, few interviews, few press conferences, few public appearances, doing things in public not every day, but often that showed obvious mental decline.

00:08:13.460 This wasn't something for insiders to know or whisper about the terms of the cover up war.

00:08:18.880 But the fact of Biden's decline was not a secret and the public saw it.

00:08:23.720 So these two guys have now written this book, OK, and their publisher, aware of the criticism that's already come their way, saying, how can you write a book after the election about a cover up that we all saw with our own eyes during the campaign?

00:08:35.660 They made a video, a publisher making a video, not that common.

00:08:40.160 Here's a bit of the video they made trying to establish the bona fides of the two authors, Mr. Thompson and Mr. Tapper, that they were on this from the beginning.

00:08:48.720 Will you pledge that if you're elected, you will be transparent about your health, all facets of your health with urgency so that we know?

00:08:58.120 Yes.

00:08:58.600 One poll shows that almost two thirds of Democratic voters want a new nominee in 2024.

00:09:03.440 And the top reason they gave was your age.

00:09:05.940 You know, that's not a good number for President Biden.

00:09:08.860 Two thirds of the American people say he's not sharp enough to be president.

00:09:11.680 Yeah, I mean, how can you use the bully pulpit when you don't have a bully you can put in the pulpit?

00:09:15.180 OK, so you're part of the 23 percent of adults who are not concerned about the president's ability to be president because of his age and stamina.

00:09:23.000 I mean, I know incumbents in general are not popular right now, but do you ever think maybe we should have a new candidate?

00:09:30.960 There's a little bit of denialism with the president.

00:09:34.040 This is a particularly bad week for this report and its comments about President Biden's faculties and his memory to come out because twice this week he has acted as if he in 2021 spoke to European leaders who have been dead for years.

00:09:49.080 Part of the job of president is the having the confidence of the American people in your faculties.

00:09:54.660 The White House's response every single time it has come up for three and a half years has been to deflect, to gaslight, to not tell the truth, not just to reporters, not just to other Democrats, but even at times to themselves.

00:10:07.120 So you saw and if you're listening on the podcast, you heard there are two voices.

00:10:10.100 One is is Alex Thompson, who was an aggressive reporter, as aggressive as almost any reporter in trying to figure out what was going on with Joe Biden's mental acuity and how his team was handling it.

00:10:20.140 And then you heard the voice of Jake Tapper and the publisher did as good a job as it could to find clips of Jake Tapper seeming to be at least interested in the topic of Joe Biden's mental decline.

00:10:30.960 So we thought, well, what are the counter counters to that?

00:10:35.160 Because I know that no one at CNN was particularly aggressive about this, and I had no indication from my memory that Jake Tapper was aggressive.

00:10:43.040 So we went and looked at the full appearances, the full segments in which Jake Tapper was in which the clips were pulled for that publisher video to ask ourselves, did the full clips demonstrate that Jake Tapper in attitude and determination and focus was in real time during the campaign, during Biden's presidency, interested in getting to the bottom of this?

00:11:06.920 So let's look at some of the clips from the publisher video, but beyond what they chose to include.

00:11:13.700 Here is Joe Biden's interview with Jake Tapper in 2022.

00:11:18.700 You're about to turn 80 next month.

00:11:20.920 Happy birthday ahead of time.

00:11:23.100 Whenever anyone raises concerns about your age, the oldest president in the history of the United States, you always say, watch me.

00:11:29.680 Voters have been watching you.

00:11:31.500 Democratic voters approve of the job you're doing.

00:11:33.960 Democratic voters overwhelmingly like you.

00:11:38.100 But one poll shows that almost two-thirds of Democratic voters want a new nominee in 2024, and the top reason they gave was your age.

00:11:45.760 So what's your message to Democrats who like you, who like what you've done, but are concerned about your age and the demands of the job?

00:11:52.240 Well, they're concerned about whether or not I can get anything done.

00:11:54.760 Look what I've gotten done.

00:11:56.200 Name me a president in recent history that's gotten as much done as I have in the first two years.

00:12:00.520 Not a joke.

00:12:01.200 You may not like what I got done, but the vast majority of the American people do like what I got done.

00:12:06.720 So he wishes them happy birthday.

00:12:07.780 He asked them about one poll.

00:12:09.180 He's not asking them about what was already on in evidence then, which is mental decline.

00:12:14.920 He's simply saying there's a poll that says Democrats don't like you.

00:12:17.940 So I look at that and I say, that's not the way I would have asked it.

00:12:21.300 That's not a guy who was determined to get beyond just asking about a poll.

00:12:25.240 That's a guy who was going to wish that president a happy birthday.

00:12:28.660 All right.

00:12:29.000 Here's another clip.

00:12:30.140 This is, again, from another interview that the public another appearance, the publisher included.

00:12:33.760 This is the White House press secretary and Jake Tapper asking her a question.

00:12:38.580 Again, this is from the same segment that the publisher used to prove that Jake Tapper was serious about getting to the bottom of this cover up.

00:12:45.520 That's what I'm saying.

00:12:46.480 That's the 77% who are concerned.

00:12:48.480 No, no, no.

00:12:48.880 But I've had conversations with some of your colleagues in the White House press corps when we travel abroad,

00:12:53.820 how it is hard for us to keep up with this president who is constantly, constantly working every day to get things done

00:13:02.200 and making sure that we are delivering for the American people.

00:13:05.340 And that's what, and I think that's what matters.

00:13:07.440 I get it.

00:13:08.200 I get what you're asking me.

00:13:09.580 But the record matters too, Jake.

00:13:11.020 Like what he's been able to do, no other president has been able to do if you look at his legislative record.

00:13:16.780 What did the White House do to try to control the press, to keep them from asking?

00:13:20.160 A compliant and pliant press.

00:13:22.260 One is they privately called them and browbeat them and said, do not cover this.

00:13:26.300 If you cover this, you'll be cut off.

00:13:27.800 I don't know if they did that to Jake Tapper or not.

00:13:30.240 But they also did what she did there in public. 0.95

00:13:32.440 They said things that were ridiculous. 0.96

00:13:34.380 Oh, he runs circles around us. 0.98

00:13:35.980 He's tireless.

00:13:36.800 I mean, look at his schedule.

00:13:38.740 By the time that interview had occurred, there were many instances of the president having a very light schedule

00:13:44.560 on overseas trips, canceling events with foreign leaders.

00:13:48.100 They say, well, he always did his job and he did his job great.

00:13:51.020 No, he canceled events and he had a very light schedule.

00:13:54.380 So here again, he asked the pro forma question.

00:13:57.500 She bats it away with one of their usual lines of spin. 1.00

00:13:59.900 Oh, he's so energetic.

00:14:01.240 He runs circles around the younger staff.

00:14:03.320 There's no evidence of it.

00:14:04.540 It's a made up piece of spin and he seemed to accept it there.

00:14:07.940 Here's another example, again, drawn from the same appearance that the publisher used to prove that Jake Tapper was tough.

00:14:14.140 And this is with another Biden spokesperson, Kate Benningfield, who, by the way, was a CNN consultant.

00:14:19.400 So she's being paid by CNN to spin for Joe Biden with her colleagues, with whom she shares a green room and everything else.

00:14:26.280 This is from February of 2024, shortly before everything went south for Joe Biden.

00:14:30.980 So this memory issue is already out there.

00:14:35.800 But I want to know how many voters in Michigan, Wisconsin, you think, know the difference between Cole and Merkel.

00:14:42.440 No, no, they don't know, but they know when somebody.

00:14:45.120 Or are going to cast their vote.

00:14:46.060 Well, you asked, you asked.

00:14:47.160 Sorry, okay.

00:14:47.820 Or are going to cast their vote for president based on whether someone is naming Emmanuel Macron or Francois Mitterrand, whose name they probably don't even know.

00:14:56.220 So here is perhaps the biggest tell of all.

00:14:59.000 If you're a reporter and you are determined to get to the bottom of this, if you think there may be a cover up at the highest levels of the government, a potential constitutional crisis, you would not treat Biden officials with humor or lightness.

00:15:11.420 You would be tough and determined to get to the bottom of it.

00:15:14.560 You don't ask about in the context of polls, which is the way he mostly asked about it.

00:15:18.940 You don't accept spin that voters don't care.

00:15:22.360 If you really are concerned about getting to the bottom of this, you ask the question.

00:15:26.000 It just is so funny.

00:15:27.400 I even have to say this.

00:15:28.520 You ask the question about specific incidents and how they would explain it.

00:15:32.860 And the one I always come back to is when there was an event in honor of a congresswoman who had passed away and Joe Biden tried to speak to her as if she were alive and there.

00:15:42.500 OK, that's not confusing the names of two European leaders.

00:15:46.400 That's not knowing which way to walk off the stage.

00:15:49.040 That's not having your first public event at noon.

00:15:51.660 That's not not doing events at night.

00:15:53.780 That is right in plain sight.

00:15:56.260 And to ask about it the way he did in that appearance and to accept her spin that voters don't care.

00:16:01.820 Again, welcome to do it if that's what you want to do.

00:16:04.740 But to do that and then write a book saying I was determined to get to the bottom of it.

00:16:10.060 This is what is this is I don't mean to just pick on Jake Tapper, but he's the one who wrote the book.

00:16:15.900 This is where every reporter, practically every reporter is.

00:16:19.280 They engaged in the lightest questioning, the lightest possible questioning and then accepted the bullying, accepted the spin.

00:16:29.620 And again, again, they acted as if now Jake Tapper is acting as if he had been determined to get to the bottom of it.

00:16:36.760 All right. This is from 2020.

00:16:39.060 OK, right before the 2020 election, Laura Trump, President Trump's daughter in law, didn't interview with Jake Tapper.

00:16:46.360 And watch how indignant he gets at the mere suggestion that Joe Biden, who's doing his Delaware basement campaign, has suffered mental decline.

00:16:56.520 Please roll one or nine.

00:16:58.600 Every time he comes on stage or they turn to him, I'm like, Joe, can you get it out?

00:17:02.660 Let's get the words out, Joe. You kind of feel bad for him.

00:17:05.840 How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?

00:17:10.740 First and foremost, I had no idea that Joe Biden ever suffered from a stutter.

00:17:18.280 I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden, Jake, is very clearly a cognitive decline.

00:17:23.920 That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable to watch somebody on stage search for questions and try and figure out an answer.

00:17:33.080 A cognitive decline.

00:17:33.880 Well, when you're trying to tell me that what I was suggesting was a stuttering, I have no idea, Joe Biden.

00:17:39.160 Yeah, I think you were mocking his stutter.

00:17:40.720 And I think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline.

00:17:44.760 I would think that somebody in the Trump family would be more sensitive to people who do not have medical licenses diagnosing politicians from afar.

00:17:55.800 Plenty of people have diagnosed your father from afar, and I'm sure it offends you, your father-in-law from afar.

00:18:01.560 I'm sure it offends you. You don't have any standing to say.

00:18:04.220 I'm not diagnosing him. What I'm saying, Jake, is that we can clearly see that Joe Biden is struggling for many times on stage.

00:18:12.400 And it's very concerning to a lot of people that this could be the leader of the free world.

00:18:17.380 That is all I'm saying. I genuinely feel sorry for Joe Biden.

00:18:20.620 I appreciate it. I'm sure.

00:18:21.620 Yeah. So he indignantly cuts off the interview. She's not a doctor. Jake's not a doctor. I'm not a doctor.

00:18:26.180 But I talked to a lot of doctors in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024.

00:18:36.100 And many of them said, look, I don't usually diagnose people from afar, but obviously there's mental and cognitive decline.

00:18:43.060 He criticized her and cut her off and I think was a little rude to her with indignity saying, how dare you say that you're in a position to say the guy has mental decline?

00:18:54.120 Well, guess what? Now that Jake Kapper has written a book about this, he says right in the publicity material for the book that there was this mental decline that was so apparent and that there was this big cover up in the White House.

00:19:05.340 Now, I give them credit for pointing out the cover up in the White House because that was not aggressively covered because anytime anyone tried to do it, they were threatened and bullied and spun in public.

00:19:16.320 And most reporters just gave up. But you cannot be part of restoring the credibility of the media to cover Donald Trump aggressively.

00:19:23.920 If your posture is, oh, we did nothing wrong, we aggressively covered it or worse, in some ways, we didn't even see it.

00:19:31.940 How could we have seen it? We didn't we weren't in these private meetings. The cover up was so intense.

00:19:36.080 I'll say again, Joe Biden's decline was not uniform. There were days when he was just fine.

00:19:41.980 So Republicans who say he was 100 percent gone and weekend at Bernie's and someone else was running the government.

00:19:47.400 That's not true. But his decline was pronounced.

00:19:50.400 There's a reason why he had a light schedule. He didn't talk to reporters.

00:19:53.940 And there's a reason why all these things that happened in public that we all saw were ignored by the press because they didn't want to help Donald Trump win.

00:20:02.120 They didn't want to be blamed if he won again. It's it's one of the most embarrassing things I've seen.

00:20:06.160 So this morning I'm reading Politico, their daily tip sheet, the hot, the Politico playbook.

00:20:11.980 And this is what they write. And it's amazing to me that this is still being this still the way the press, which defended and protected Joe Biden, is framing things for what it's worth.

00:20:23.100 Biden has continued to deny any suggestion that he experienced cognitive decline while in office.

00:20:29.440 They are wrong, the former president said in an interview last week on The View.

00:20:33.540 There is nothing to sustain that. I mean, I get letting Joe Biden have his say.

00:20:37.840 But for what it's worth, Joe Biden has continued to deny any suggestion.

00:20:41.900 He experienced cognitive decline. I mean, how could they write that?

00:20:46.660 How could they how could they credit that?

00:20:48.820 It makes no sense. But it's the mindset that most every reporter, not Alex Thompson, but his co-author.

00:20:56.240 And again, almost every reporter that's now being asked with the authority and the responsibility of covering Donald Trump to be to be responsible for that.

00:21:06.020 But it's the same line. So Jake Tapper, his book coming out in a week.

00:21:10.900 Here he is this morning on CNN, creating a whole new set of realities.

00:21:16.020 Watch this.

00:21:17.200 You have an entire White House press corps, though, following him around.

00:21:20.580 And I'm just curious as to whether or not this kind of trying to hide what was happening with the president at the time had an impact on the press corps.

00:21:31.420 Like, why didn't we hear some of these details from what they actually saw and were dealing with trying to get information?

00:21:37.180 Well, Alex Thompson and I were on the case, as were lots of other reporters, trying to figure out what was going on behind the scenes.

00:21:47.860 But bottom line is the White House was lying not only to the press, not only to the public, but they were lying to members of their own cabinet.

00:21:54.860 They were lying to White House staffers. They were lying to Democratic members of Congress, to donors about how bad things had gotten.

00:22:04.220 And in fact, Alex and I started writing this book after the election of 2024.

00:22:09.740 And we spoke with more than 200 people, most of whom, almost all of whom were Democrats and almost all of whom wouldn't be honest with us or wouldn't be candid with us until after the election.

00:22:21.360 And then after the election, we found out all of these things that when you looked at what was going on with President Biden at the time, it probably doesn't surprise you the extent to which he was deteriorating.

00:22:32.820 But now we have anecdotes and facts about what was really going on behind the scenes with details that Democrats wouldn't share with us until after Election Day.

00:22:41.460 All right. Again, amazing. True.

00:22:43.640 Here's something true that he said that Jake Tapper said on CNN this morning.

00:22:46.880 True that there was a cover up, that senior Biden officials worked very hard to cover up as much as they could his decline, including amongst other people in the government and in the campaign.

00:22:58.280 That's true. Here's two things that are not true.

00:23:01.480 OK, and this is where the credibility is just so important that people be honest.

00:23:06.380 I shouldn't be the only one in the media being honest about this.

00:23:08.920 It's bizarre. OK, one thing that's not true is that you needed that the cover up is was so good that no one could see this, that we couldn't possibly have gotten to the bottom of this during the election.

00:23:23.740 Again, it makes me mental. It was clear.

00:23:26.920 I saw it with my own eyes in 2017 at a public event with hundreds of people.

00:23:32.440 You saw it almost every day, not every day, but almost every day, both in what he did and the fact that he had such a limited schedule.

00:23:38.940 So it is not true that it's only after the election that Jake Tapper could have gotten to the bottom of this and the rest of the Washington press corps could have gotten to the bottom of it.

00:23:47.180 The other thing that's not true is that the press is blameless because they were more than just stymied in the telling of Jake Tapper.

00:23:55.440 They were stymied from getting to the truth. No, they weren't.

00:23:59.280 They were part of the conspiracy and the cover up. 0.83

00:24:02.400 They allowed themselves to believe the ridiculous spin on TV in public and privately, they allowed themselves to be browbeat. 0.62

00:24:10.720 I know reporters. Again, I said before, I don't know that Jake Tapper was browbeat by Biden folks, but I know reporters who were.

00:24:17.180 They were told you will lose access. The New York Post lost access because they covered the Hunter Biden story.

00:24:24.080 Reporters who covered any story the Biden people didn't like were denied access to sound familiar.

00:24:29.320 A White House denying access to the press when they don't like what's written or said.

00:24:32.920 This is a crisis. The book's going to come out.

00:24:36.400 Conservatives online are already criticizing it along the same lines I am.

00:24:40.240 But this should not be a red blue thing where the Democrats pretend that the book is on the up and up and the press pretends the book is on the up and up and they're criticized by red people on X and elsewhere.

00:24:52.420 That shouldn't be the way this goes because the true story, the true story of what happened, whatever the book reveals about the cover up within the administration, the true story is that that video that the publisher put together to try to show Jake Tapper in the best light, the best light about how aggressive he was before the election.

00:25:13.160 That's weak tea, but it becomes even more watered down when you show the full context of what he said in those very appearances and elsewhere.

00:25:22.520 People treated it like a political story, like a polling story, like a partisan story.

00:25:27.440 That's not what this was. If you want an America where the press corps can hold Donald Trump accountable, he's the current president, hold Donald Trump accountable.

00:25:36.340 You want an America where this book is an opportunity not for Jake Tapper to make money and his co-author to make money.

00:25:42.760 It's an opportunity for the press, every organization that participated in the cover up to come clean and to say what, again, is so obvious.

00:25:50.720 I shouldn't have to say it. It was clear that Joe Biden had cognitive decline.

00:25:56.160 It was clear that it was spun and covered up and bullying tactics were used.

00:26:01.700 It was clear that people who didn't say it aloud had a partisan interest in not saying it aloud and that that included the media, which didn't say a word, not because they couldn't see it, but because they didn't want to be accused of helping Donald Trump win.

00:26:14.840 I want this to be an opportunity to come clean, because if we don't now, I'm not sure what other opportunity people will take.

00:26:22.420 It's not that hard. Be honest. Say what happened. Say what we all saw in countless videos, in countless presidential appearances.

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00:28:20.320 Well, we must have stumbled into some bad luck because Dylan Mulvaney is back.

00:28:25.460 I thought we left Dylan Mulvaney behind in 2023.

00:28:28.560 The last time Dylan Mulvaney was famous, Joe Biden was still president, and honestly, he might have still known what day it was.

00:28:34.680 But Dylan Mulvaney is back in the news, and you'll never guess why.

00:28:39.020 Dylan Mulvaney is cosplaying Melania Trump's New Year's Eve outfit from about six months ago.

00:28:46.000 That's what Dylan Mulvaney is doing.

00:28:47.720 Honestly, Dylan, you don't look that great.

00:28:49.880 Now, at first, I had no idea how Dylan Mulvaney ended up with Melania Trump's Versace dress from New Year's Eve.

00:28:56.520 I thought, you know what?

00:28:57.700 Maybe Melania Trump and her amazing, iconic stylist, Herve Pierre, left it in a donation bin that Dylan Mulvaney went to rummage through like a little raccoon.

00:29:06.700 That was my first theory.

00:29:07.980 My second theory was this.

00:29:10.080 Maybe Melania Trump, she's having so much fun on New Year's Eve at Mar-a-Lago. 0.99

00:29:13.660 She goes up and tosses the dress off the tower at Mar-a-Lago into the bushes, and Dylan Mulvaney, like a little raccoon, takes the dress and runs off with it.

00:29:21.860 But turns out that is not the case.

00:29:25.040 Donatella Versace herself sent Dylan Mulvaney this iconic dress that our wonderful, beautiful First Lady Melania Trump wore back on New Year's Eve. 0.94

00:29:35.080 Now, we have a picture of Donatella Versace.

00:29:37.580 It's going to make you gag.

00:29:39.640 Let's put it up right now.

00:29:41.060 So when we look at this picture at first, I'm just going to call it like I see it.

00:29:45.700 That's why you guys come here.

00:29:46.920 We are kicking the show off with a bang.

00:29:48.920 We've got Dylan Mulvaney, Donatella Versace.

00:29:51.500 When I look at this picture, I can't tell who's transgender.

00:29:54.620 I can't tell who's had more plastic surgery.

00:29:57.280 Honestly, Dylan Mulvaney has had facial feminization surgery, gender transition surgery, hormones, Botox, you name it, and still looks like more of a woman than Donatella Versace, who is slowly morphing into Mickey Rourke.

00:30:09.640 I don't think Donatella is going to be sending me clothes after this episode, but nonetheless, who cares?

00:30:15.280 I'll also say this.

00:30:16.560 Dylan Mulvaney is not good for any brand.

00:30:19.320 The fastest way to tank your brand is to have Dylan Mulvaney endorse it.

00:30:23.740 We saw that with Bud Light, right?

00:30:25.100 They sent Dylan Mulvaney all of these cans with his face on it, and immediately, the stock started to plummet.

00:30:30.900 But I'm the type of person, because I call it like I see it, because I'm fair, I actually somewhat defended Dylan Mulvaney and the Bud Light scandal, and let me tell you why.

00:30:40.080 This is one of my first big viral videos.

00:30:42.040 Some of you who've been with me for years, you might remember this.

00:30:44.980 So Dylan Mulvaney was getting lambasted, raked over the coals for this Bud Light scandal, and I said, you know what?

00:30:50.860 Bud Light, they're the ones who strayed from their core competencies.

00:30:55.100 Bud Light, they're the ones who decided to send all these cans to a man in a dress who mocks women for a living, because that's what Dylan Mulvaney does.

00:31:03.000 That's how Dylan Mulvaney became famous.

00:31:04.780 He was posting these videos saying, oh, I chipped a nail.

00:31:07.460 I'm having a bad day.

00:31:08.540 I must be a girl.

00:31:09.560 This is what womanhood is like. 1.00

00:31:11.160 My life has been so enriched by the strong women within it.

00:31:14.440 There are strong, incredible women producing the show right now behind the camera. 1.00

00:31:17.720 I can tell you, Dylan Mulvaney knows absolutely nothing about womanhood if he thinks it's makeup, lipstick, hair extensions, and dresses.

00:31:26.000 That has nothing to do with real womanhood. 0.99

00:31:28.240 I was raised by a strong, independent woman.

00:31:30.680 I can tell you that right now.

00:31:32.580 Dylan Mulvaney is a joke.

00:31:34.020 But Bud Light, they sent Dylan the cans.

00:31:36.020 All Dylan was doing was collecting a check, doing a brand deal, like every other influencer.

00:31:41.120 Now, Bud Light, most of the people who drink Bud Light, they are not transgender. 1.00

00:31:45.400 They are not men in dresses.

00:31:46.800 They are not cringeworthy influencers. 0.95

00:31:48.720 But some dumbass at Bud Light thought it would be a good idea to send Dylan Mulvaney those cans. 0.84

00:31:53.540 I actually think Versace, this liberal, elite, high-fashion institution, sending dresses to Dylan Mulvaney makes a little bit more sense. 0.96

00:32:03.040 But what I don't understand is this.

00:32:04.520 Donatella Versace, she could send clothes to angel moms, warrior moms, school teachers. 0.61

00:32:09.980 Some of you out there would love to have a hair and makeup session, have someone come and bring you a fancy $1,000 dress to put on for the day and go to a fabulous event. 0.99

00:32:19.140 But Donatella Versace, she is telling you where her priorities lie, right?

00:32:23.040 She doesn't care about the forgotten men and women of this country. 0.96

00:32:25.740 She cares about this transgender influencer who makes a mockery of women every single day and then wants to cry and play the victim. 0.99

00:32:34.680 That's what Dylan Mulvaney does, right? 0.97

00:32:36.000 Dylan Mulvaney tries to say, oh, my God, everyone's so mean to me.

00:32:39.140 Everyone's so harsh on me.

00:32:40.960 Dylan, you have become rich and famous because you put a dress on, all right?

00:32:45.780 People would love to do that.

00:32:47.100 I wish I didn't have to work that hard.

00:32:48.680 In my next life, we can all come back as Dylan Mulvaney and become rich and famous for doing absolutely nothing.

00:32:55.520 Now, Dylan Mulvaney, he was praised by his fashion.

00:32:58.400 He had think pieces written on him in vogue.

00:33:00.680 But if you're a Republican, if you're a conservative, if you're a real woman who happens to be an independent and goes against the left-wing doctrine, you are going to get attacked by the fashion elites. 1.00

00:33:11.620 And that's what they did to First Lady Melania Trump just a few months ago in January in vogue. 0.79

00:33:16.820 They decided to denigrate her official White House portrait where she looks strong, she looks incredible, she looks like she's ready to take on the world.

00:33:25.740 But vogue, they really had a problem with this.

00:33:27.720 We have a quote right here from the journalist, Hannah Jackson.

00:33:31.820 Let me read it to you.

00:33:32.800 She said,

00:34:02.800 So this journalist, Hannah Jackson, let's put her up on the screen, right?

00:34:11.000 Let's put Hannah Jackson up on the screen.

00:34:13.080 She has made a living tearing down beautiful conservative women who care about the children in our country. 1.00

00:34:19.700 That's what Melania Trump is doing. 1.00

00:34:21.020 She has the Take It Down Act.

00:34:22.100 She's doing tons of incredible things, right?

00:34:24.380 And the fashion literati, all of these liberals like Hannah Jackson who live in their walk-up apartments in Bushwick and are miserable and just want to tear down anybody they don't like, what they don't understand is this.

00:34:35.360 If Melania Trump had a D next to her name, they would love her. 0.60

00:34:39.080 The same thing with Usha Vance, right?

00:34:41.140 The fact that Usha Vance happens to be a Republican, she happens to be married to J.D. Vance, they are going to tear her down.

00:34:48.580 Because all of these people, they want to preach feminism and acceptance and lifting women up.

00:34:54.000 They want to preach about Roe v. Wade and whine about the Dobbs decision.

00:34:57.040 But when it actually comes to uplifting women who have an R next to their name and happen to be Republicans, conservatives, MAGA, even independents, no, no, no, no, no.

00:35:06.800 They have no room for those women. 1.00

00:35:09.480 And objectively, objectively speaking, I say this as a gay man, I can be objective.

00:35:13.520 If we look at Joe Biden, Michelle Obama, and Melania Trump, Melania Trump is the most stunning first lady we've had in decades, okay?

00:35:21.820 I don't care what you want to say, everybody.

00:35:23.580 You can act like keyboard warriors.

00:35:25.100 Of course, Melania Trump is the most stunning first lady we've had in decades. 0.98

00:35:30.580 I also have to point out, Vogue used to love Melania Trump before she was first lady, before her husband got into presidential politics as a Republican.

00:35:38.940 They would put Melania on the cover of Vogue.

00:35:40.960 Now, they're never going to put her on the cover of Vogue as first lady, which I think is an atrocity.

00:35:45.820 Jill Biden has been on the cover of Vogue three times, and she looks like a streetwalker. 1.00

00:35:50.340 And her fishnet leggings and her leather skirts, that woman, Jill Biden, you look like a streetwalker on Houston Street. 1.00

00:35:58.800 I'm going to be nice.

00:35:59.720 I'm going to be cordial.

00:36:00.640 It's our first ever episode.

00:36:02.080 I'm going to have some decorum.

00:36:03.800 We're here on Megyn Kelly's network.

00:36:05.120 I'm going to have some decorum.

00:36:06.240 I will also say, Michelle Obama, she's been on the cover of Vogue three times herself, and she looks like an utter calamity half the time. 0.92

00:36:13.420 I don't know who is styling Michelle Obama.

00:36:15.600 Maybe it's Stevie Wonder. 0.99

00:36:16.900 But the fact that she's been on the cover of Vogue three times is crazy.

00:36:20.780 And Melania has never been on the cover of Vogue once as first lady.

00:36:25.020 So all of these liberal fashion literati folks who sit in their penthouse apartments, they can continue to tear down conservative women all they want. 1.00

00:36:33.260 But Trump won the popular vote.

00:36:35.120 He won 77 million votes from Americans.

00:36:38.140 That's about half the country. 1.00

00:36:40.180 Kamala Harris, she got her ass handed to her. 1.00

00:36:42.500 She lost every single swing state. 1.00

00:36:45.180 President Trump won the House, the Senate, the Electoral College.

00:36:48.400 So all of these folks, they can turn their backs on half the country.

00:36:51.880 They can denigrate half the women in this country. 0.99

00:36:54.080 But even from a capitalistic standpoint, I don't understand what Vogue is doing.

00:36:58.860 Why are you tearing down conservative women when you could be giving them a shot? 0.99

00:37:03.520 Usha Vance, she's an Indian American. 0.98

00:37:05.560 She's the first Hindu second lady. 1.00

00:37:07.460 If she had a D next to her name, if Usha Vance were a Democrat, they would have loved her. 0.98

00:37:13.380 But that's why people aren't buying Vogue.

00:37:15.080 That's why these magazines are going out of fashion, going out of style, and shutting down.

00:37:19.840 So to conclude and bring it all home, Melania Trump, she wears a dress on New Year's Eve. 0.99

00:37:26.060 She is attacked.

00:37:27.020 She is raked over the coals.

00:37:28.220 They say her outfit is too scandalous. 0.99

00:37:30.180 Why is she wearing that as first lady? 1.00

00:37:32.040 Vogue drags her. 1.00

00:37:33.440 They say she's a freelance magician.

00:37:35.360 They say she's boardroom pastiche. 1.00

00:37:38.180 Okay, that's what they say about Melania Trump. 1.00

00:37:40.400 Dylan Mulvaney, a man, puts on the same dress and is praised by the fashion literati.

00:37:46.940 Dylan Mulvaney puts on the exact same dress.

00:37:49.520 Like when you order it online versus when it arrives in the mail,

00:37:52.320 Dylan Mulvaney looks like the Alibaba, Timu, Wish version of Melania Trump.

00:37:56.620 Dylan, you wish, you wish you had the fashion wherewithal of Melania Trump.

00:38:02.400 You don't.

00:38:03.140 You tried.

00:38:03.940 Better luck next time.

00:38:05.140 But Dylan Mulvaney puts on the exact same dress and is praised.

00:38:08.740 Vogue is saying Dylan looks incredible.

00:38:10.360 They say Dylan Mulvaney is opening doors for women.

00:38:13.740 That's how far the feminist movement has come on the left. 1.00

00:38:16.520 A man in a dress with balls. 0.99

00:38:19.000 I don't know. 1.00

00:38:19.600 Maybe he doesn't have balls anymore. 0.99

00:38:20.720 We'll have to check in and get back to you on that one. 0.99

00:38:22.340 But Dylan Mulvaney, a man, is opening doors for women and breaking down barriers for women

00:38:28.780 for putting on a $1,000 dress and going out to a fancy highfalutin event.

00:38:34.480 All of you liberals are out of touch.

00:38:36.680 You're cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

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00:40:45.920 We're now in week two almost since that disastrous Prince Harry interview with the BBC.

00:40:54.720 He lost a major court case.

00:40:57.160 He sat in front of a reporter for the BBC, and he basically walked right up to alleging

00:41:05.040 that the British royal family wants to kill him, Megan, and probably his two innocent young

00:41:14.120 children, but also that he would love to get back in. 0.56

00:41:17.000 He would love to get back in, but he also just needs all of the security that this latest

00:41:22.020 court ruling once again denied him, okay?

00:41:24.400 Because he's not a working royal anymore by his own decision, okay?

00:41:29.940 So the British taxpayers aren't going to pay for this, and he's so, so important.

00:41:34.680 So this was a humiliation, and if you go and look at that interview on YouTube, you can

00:41:38.560 see, I mean, the whole demeanor, his comportment, the way he's talking, like his mouth is like

00:41:44.320 even smaller than usual.

00:41:45.800 He can't get the words out.

00:41:47.340 He is just completely, he uses the word devastated.

00:41:50.520 He says, I'm devastated.

00:41:51.500 That is a man who is fully emasculated, if you ask me, okay?

00:41:56.780 So what does Megan do? 1.00

00:42:00.020 When things go wrong, like really, really wrong, like really, really, really bad, Megan does

00:42:07.240 this.

00:42:07.780 She puts on this face, and everything's great.

00:42:12.720 Everything's great. 0.94

00:42:13.440 In fact, things are better than they were before Harry's latest fuck up, okay?

00:42:17.140 So she took to Instagram, where her likes and comments seem to be permanently disabled, 0.63

00:42:24.160 to brag about having been at Beyonce's show the night before with that man, Harry, remember,

00:42:32.640 never forget, that man who loves me so much.

00:42:37.020 So of course, now this is a carousel, right?

00:42:39.300 Because we have to experience like all of her emotions and her winning, her constant winning.

00:42:46.300 So she begins this post in the most banal, cliched way possible, okay?

00:42:53.880 She begins this post with the following three words.

00:42:57.740 About last night.

00:42:59.720 Like, everybody uses that.

00:43:01.920 Like, it should be like, whoever runs Instagram's, you know, it's not Mark Zuckerberg, but whoever,

00:43:07.880 like, that should just be banned.

00:43:09.280 About last night.

00:43:10.140 It's not cute anymore.

00:43:10.920 It's not funny.

00:43:11.600 Whatever.

00:43:12.000 Okay.

00:43:12.340 So of course, she uses the most hackneyed, trite thing she can because she has not, as 0.96

00:43:17.240 I've said, an original freaking thought in her head.

00:43:20.420 So first, we're going to see Megan standing at the Beyonce show, and I think in this one,

00:43:27.520 she might be wearing Harry's hat.

00:43:30.520 Yeah.

00:43:31.400 Okay, she's wearing, now the hat is going to come into play later. 0.99

00:43:34.340 Now, look at, first of all, I want you to take this all in because every single thing

00:43:38.020 is telling us something.

00:43:39.220 And I want you to think about the ways in which she thinks she's showing us she and Harry

00:43:44.480 are winning, but she's actually showing us that they are losing, as ever.

00:43:51.300 Okay, so that's that image.

00:43:52.740 This is the next image.

00:43:53.840 And this was also put, this was like the center photo on page six over the weekend in the Sunday

00:44:01.000 paper.

00:44:02.460 Look at, just, just, just, I mean, look at the smiles.

00:44:05.720 Okay?

00:44:06.160 They're having the best time.

00:44:08.180 Next, we're going to look at Megan dancing at the Beyonce show because, you know, she's

00:44:13.120 not just a royal in exile, she's like a cool royal in exile.

00:44:17.800 So she's dancing, she's letting loose, she's letting her hair down.

00:44:23.240 Oh my God, you guys, she can't dance. 1.00

00:44:26.180 She can't dance. 1.00

00:44:27.620 Like, she's barely moving.

00:44:29.200 Like, it's like Taylor, you know, Taylor Swift can't dance.

00:44:31.880 So like, they usually make her just walk on stage. 0.99

00:44:34.060 Like, just like she's a supermodel. 0.86

00:44:36.040 Like, she walks over here and then she walks over there.

00:44:38.440 Like, Megan is like, barely, barely, like, she's like a robot.

00:44:43.120 She's like, she's like dancing like a robot. 0.58

00:44:44.960 Okay.

00:44:45.520 Then next in her carousel, we see Harry kissing Megan on the cheek because what is he doing

00:44:53.720 if he's not showing that he's constantly a supplicant?

00:44:57.660 He's the help.

00:44:58.760 He has to show that she is the adored one.

00:45:01.080 And that's, by the way, in stark contrast to the two of them in New York City a couple

00:45:06.360 of weeks ago at the Time 100 summit where she exited their vehicle and he went to grab

00:45:11.980 her hand and she just like, I have a stranger to hug.

00:45:16.000 Get away from me.

00:45:16.760 Pee on. 1.00

00:45:17.280 You disgust me. 1.00

00:45:18.520 Okay. 0.99

00:45:18.820 Next, Megan with friends.

00:45:23.040 Again, who are these people?

00:45:25.200 Like, I don't, I don't recognize any of them from the Netflix show With Love, Megan.

00:45:29.980 Like, where's Daniel, the makeup artist?

00:45:31.680 Where's Mindy Kaling? 1.00

00:45:33.000 Who are these, who are these no names that I don't recognize?

00:45:35.680 Notice.

00:45:36.240 Okay.

00:45:36.460 Again, they're not, she's not with celebrities.

00:45:39.320 Okay.

00:45:39.680 These, I don't know who these people are.

00:45:41.500 And then we're going to take a look at, okay, here is, is this video of Beyonce and Megan

00:45:49.700 clapping together?

00:45:51.200 Together?

00:45:52.220 How did I, can this be right?

00:45:57.580 No, they're not together.

00:45:59.060 Of course not.

00:46:01.700 Megan's just having a moment.

00:46:03.180 Okay.

00:46:03.420 And then let's see.

00:46:04.640 There's another picture of her and Harry.

00:46:06.280 It's a selfie.

00:46:06.800 Nobody cares.

00:46:07.300 The hat is what I want to get to.

00:46:08.920 The hat.

00:46:11.220 So the hat she was wearing, which we are informed was Harry's.

00:46:14.460 You guys look at this thing.

00:46:15.540 Okay.

00:46:17.020 She's got stenciled inside the brim of the hat.

00:46:20.860 On the underside of the brim of the hat.

00:46:22.920 Which would be, again, Harry's.

00:46:25.200 Archie, in all capital letters.

00:46:28.040 Like block letters.

00:46:29.160 Underneath that.

00:46:30.080 Lily, all block letters.

00:46:31.560 And underneath that, my love.

00:46:36.600 My love.

00:46:38.180 Not Megan.

00:46:39.440 But, you know, hearkening to the Jamie Carlema interview that she did like two weeks ago

00:46:45.300 where she sighed theatrically, because there's no other kind of Meghan Markle sigh, but a theatrical

00:46:49.760 sigh.

00:46:53.040 That man, you know.

00:46:54.480 And she's telling us he comes in after she has torn herself away from her two children

00:46:59.680 for a moment of respite.

00:47:01.800 And she goes into an adjoining room where she now misses them so much, she has to start

00:47:06.460 scrolling through her phone to look at photos of them, even though they're in the next room.

00:47:11.540 And Harry walks in and he says, my love, can't you just give yourself a break? 0.97

00:47:19.440 So, you know, and okay, what this hat shows is not only, I think Harry's balls, I think 0.91

00:47:24.600 she like weighted them down with like some concrete per the Sopranos and like threw them 1.00

00:47:30.340 in a body of water and they're gone.

00:47:31.800 That's it.

00:47:32.620 This guy's fully emasculated.

00:47:34.660 And that's her showing us the way she's got control of him and how much he adores her.

00:47:40.880 And it also shows us that Meghan is not what she purports to be and so badly wants to be.

00:47:48.040 She thinks she's like the cool royal, the American easy breezy California cool royal with a wellness

00:47:54.840 brand or a food brand.

00:47:57.300 Like Gwyneth, like she's not cool.

00:47:59.100 Okay.

00:47:59.280 There is zero about that hat and everything else about in that Instagram post that is

00:48:05.680 cool.

00:48:06.240 And, you know, I'm not saying cool is the cost of entry for everything.

00:48:09.700 It's certainly not. 0.98

00:48:10.460 But authenticity sure as fuck is. 0.97

00:48:12.740 And you know what runs on a dual track with authenticity? 0.99

00:48:16.380 Often you're cool.

00:48:18.160 Okay. 0.99

00:48:18.500 Because you don't really give a shit. 1.00

00:48:19.820 And her problem is she gives way too much of a shit. 1.00

00:48:22.880 Hence that post. 1.00

00:48:24.040 Now, look at the caption because she then says, like, thanks to Beyonce and team for a wonderful

00:48:32.300 night.

00:48:33.080 Okay.

00:48:33.420 So this caption, what's not in this caption is telling us everything.

00:48:37.860 Okay.

00:48:38.020 First of all, look at where they're seated.

00:48:39.840 They're not in a VIP box.

00:48:41.140 This is an Oprah with her astronaut friend in bedazzled blue jeans, Gail, in a VIP section

00:48:48.980 at Beyonce's show.

00:48:50.600 Okay.

00:48:50.800 So she got tickets either on StubHub or, or someone called someone in Beyonce's camp and

00:49:00.340 they were like, okay, just throw her a bone. 0.96

00:49:02.140 But they're up there.

00:49:03.580 Okay.

00:49:04.020 They're like in the midsection of this tour, which by the way is flopping all over the place.

00:49:08.160 So it's not like it's a hard ticket to get.

00:49:10.280 Okay.

00:49:10.860 Then she says, thanks.

00:49:12.080 Thanks to Beyonce and her team for a great night.

00:49:15.120 She doesn't say thanks to Beyonce for hooking us up.

00:49:19.560 Thanks to Beyonce's team for making sure H and I, or that man and I had everything at

00:49:28.120 our fingertips and didn't want for a month.

00:49:31.000 We had a personal concierge.

00:49:32.520 I had a personal bathroom.

00:49:34.020 She's not saying any of that.

00:49:35.040 Okay.

00:49:35.320 So she's trying to make it seem like she and H are like super tight with Beyonce and 0.98

00:49:41.840 Jay and her, and like, think ahead.

00:49:43.680 Okay, Megan, think ahead for once.

00:49:46.300 The Diddy trial is underway in New York city.

00:49:49.440 As we speak, I think Jay Z, Jay, Jay Z, whatever.

00:49:54.800 I think he's got a few concerns.

00:49:56.480 Okay.

00:49:57.160 So maybe you don't want to be adjacent to them.

00:49:59.980 Maybe you don't.

00:50:00.780 Okay.

00:50:00.940 So they try to put this happy face on this, but then Sunday, Sunday, you guys,

00:50:06.980 this still photo emerges of Harry who has just finished whining.

00:50:14.160 Okay.

00:50:14.320 Look at this photo.

00:50:15.260 He is in London on his own.

00:50:17.680 This looks like morning light to me, early morning light, a ring camera.

00:50:22.680 He's got, he's on his cell phone and a ring camera has caught him buzzing someone's townhouse.

00:50:29.360 The trash cans in the background on there's one for recycling.

00:50:35.920 It looks like, and one for trash, but they're trash cans.

00:50:39.320 Again, I miss Andy Warhol deeply.

00:50:42.380 This is like one of the best celebrity photo.

00:50:45.460 We are just, it's an abundance of riches.

00:50:47.520 So this guy who just got finished moaning to the world that he needs 24 seven, like Mossad 0.86

00:50:54.500 level security when he goes to the UK, because he's that important, is caught wandering around

00:51:00.020 a London neighborhood alone in what looks like, frankly, last night's suit, knocking

00:51:05.560 on random doors.

00:51:06.760 There is no security anywhere in sight, anywhere.

00:51:09.400 So which is it, Harry?

00:51:10.680 Harry, now, the official line that came out, and I don't think it was like from Harry per

00:51:17.440 se, but like his camp, was that he was merely looking for a friend of his and his wife who

00:51:24.960 used, who lived in that neighborhood.

00:51:26.260 And that was the last known address he had for them.

00:51:29.260 And so clearly, if this story is true, which I doubt, and we'll get into why, I think that

00:51:35.380 that the only other explanation would be like, these two left no forwarding address for

00:51:39.320 him.

00:51:39.680 Okay.

00:51:39.900 Location unknown.

00:51:41.700 They're in the equivalent of the aristocracy's witness protection program from Harry and his

00:51:47.680 terrible wife, Meghan. 1.00

00:51:49.920 Now, I don't believe that story is true, because I saw a lot of online speculation that this

00:51:56.440 is behavior that, we'll say, a hard partier would exhibit.

00:52:02.320 And as I disclosed once when I was on Megyn Kelly's show, like, I've never done hard drugs in

00:52:08.600 my life.

00:52:09.020 I was maybe offered cocaine twice in my life, and I was like, I don't want it, thank you.

00:52:14.600 And by the way, like, friends of mine later told me, it's a great thing you never tried

00:52:17.660 it, because you probably would have loved it, because all cocaine makes you want to do is

00:52:20.740 talk.

00:52:21.440 And I love to talk, as you know.

00:52:23.300 So I probably would have wound up in rehab, like, more than once.

00:52:27.180 Anyway, this speculation online, which kind of attracts to me, is that he had a long, long

00:52:34.580 night with people who were kind of party buddies who he didn't really know well, but for the

00:52:41.220 purposes of that evening, they had a lot of commonalities.

00:52:44.100 And then he woke up somewhere and wasn't quite sure where he was, but he left something behind.

00:52:51.060 It obviously wasn't his cell phone, because he's on it, but he left something behind. 0.99

00:52:56.360 But so why not just call Megan, because he can't, because he's fucked up yet again. 0.93

00:53:02.000 So he can't call Megan, can't call his daddy, can't call his brother or his sister-in-law. 0.99

00:53:07.060 He can't really call any friends, because he doesn't know where the fuck they are, because 0.96

00:53:10.560 they've all exited stage left years ago. 0.93

00:53:14.400 So I wonder who he really is trying to call anyway.

00:53:17.460 So he left something behind, and his dignity is the least of it.

00:53:22.720 Now, I would like to get to another news dump.

00:53:25.980 They call it like a Friday news dump, when an outlet, a politician, a movie star announces

00:53:31.700 something they hope will get buried, as everybody just turns to their weekend and goes about their

00:53:37.000 lives, as we should.

00:53:38.400 But this one really affected me deeply, and I'm actually not being sarcastic, because I

00:53:46.480 am a deep, deep, deep abiding fan of the original Real Housewives of New York City, which has

00:53:54.760 given us so much over the years.

00:53:56.200 But on Friday, Bravo announced that they are canceling what we fans call Roni.

00:54:03.000 Now, the last two to three seasons, it was the reboot.

00:54:06.520 It was only two seasons, no great loss.

00:54:09.360 Of course, they should have canceled it.

00:54:10.700 It was terrible.

00:54:11.800 They remade it.

00:54:12.700 They fired the original cast.

00:54:15.340 Huge mistake, in my opinion.

00:54:17.160 After George Floyd was murdered, and everything was seen through a different lens, and they

00:54:21.740 brought in a black housewife who was taking them up to Harlem and giving them lessons in 0.82

00:54:26.560 African-American history.

00:54:27.560 That is not the show, OK?

00:54:29.080 That is not the show.

00:54:30.740 So they tried to reboot it with all these very stiff women who were not part of the same 1.00

00:54:35.980 social circle.

00:54:37.360 There were no stakes.

00:54:38.300 Like, high stakes, and these are things we're revisiting on this show, is like actual friendship

00:54:45.260 breakups are high stakes.

00:54:47.260 And these women, the OGs of Roni, were all real friends before they ever started shooting.

00:54:54.000 Like, they had known each other for decades.

00:54:56.280 So when cameras get involved, and stardom gets involved, and money gets involved, and friendships

00:55:02.080 begin to fracture, and marriages begin to fracture, like, now we're talking.

00:55:06.060 Like, this is real conflict.

00:55:07.980 So I would like to pay tribute, if I may, to...

00:55:10.920 And again, she wound up in Sunday's New York Post, as she should.

00:55:13.940 She is a true star.

00:55:15.900 One Countess Luanne de Lisepse.

00:55:18.420 This woman is a legend.

00:55:19.520 And we were introduced to her, we were introduced to her, lo those many years ago, she was a

00:55:27.340 nurse or a nurse practitioner from Connecticut, who had happened to marry, like, a minor royal.

00:55:34.140 I mean, these titles at this point, they're like honorary titles.

00:55:36.680 They don't really mean anything.

00:55:37.560 He was a count.

00:55:38.720 I don't even remember what country he's from.

00:55:41.200 But so she went by the Countess, on, like, the Upper East Side, and, like, out in the Hamptons.

00:55:45.900 It was like, you couldn't call her Luanne.

00:55:47.300 She was the Countess, okay?

00:55:49.080 You know, by season three, the Countess left her for a younger woman.

00:55:51.680 It's all over page six.

00:55:52.820 They've got to sell the house in the Hamptons.

00:55:54.360 She has what she calls an estate sale. 1.00

00:55:56.160 That's what wealthy people call it. 0.93

00:55:57.560 It's a tag sale, okay?

00:55:58.760 She was getting rid of her stuff.

00:55:59.840 She needed the money.

00:56:01.160 She had to move in with another real housewife. 1.00

00:56:03.680 But she has given us so much over the years, okay?

00:56:07.120 Now, post her divorce, she was dating around, and, like, as she should.

00:56:14.620 Like, she had no shame.

00:56:16.700 She was, like, sex positive before that was even a thing in the culture. 1.00

00:56:20.460 So watch Luanne just expertly defang these two other uptight, much younger housewives, 1.00

00:56:29.580 because they're all on vacation.

00:56:31.260 And Luanne went out after they went home, got drunk, picked up a guy, brought him home, 1.00

00:56:38.300 and these other two are, like, how dare you party on vacation?

00:56:43.920 Watch this.

00:56:45.000 So be cool.

00:56:46.320 Don't be all, like, uncool.

00:56:49.160 Okay, right there, a meme.

00:56:50.600 A meme was born.

00:56:51.420 A star was born, okay?

00:56:52.540 Next, again, I love Luanne for this.

00:56:56.440 You know, alcohol takes many a housewife down. 1.00

00:56:59.800 And Luanne will have her struggles after, you know, in the years after this moment.

00:57:04.760 But when I saw this, I thought, you know, when you first are becoming friends with people

00:57:09.180 or you're dating somebody and, like, they have one too many, like, that is, like, the moment

00:57:14.840 where you know you're in or you're out because, like, there are two kinds of drunks in the

00:57:18.820 world, happy drunks and mean drunks. 0.99

00:57:21.760 And that is when the true person comes out, okay?

00:57:25.180 Luanne, I am happy to report, was a happy drunk. 0.92

00:57:28.520 Watch this. 0.97

00:57:29.120 Luanne has drunkenly fallen in the bushes and she looks like a freaking supermodel doing 1.00

00:57:44.140 it, okay? 0.92

00:57:45.420 Goals.

00:57:46.220 Goals.

00:57:46.700 Okay, next.

00:57:47.720 So then Luanne goes on to marry this guy named Tom who has been spotted by every housewife

00:57:54.720 and every friend of a housewife out in the wilds of upper New York City, most usually

00:58:00.240 at the Regency Bar in Manhattan, making out with women who are not his fiancee, Luanne,

00:58:05.820 but she goes ahead with the marriage.

00:58:07.920 Then the marriage falls apart, like, within a year.

00:58:09.740 She's humiliated.

00:58:11.100 She begins drinking to cope.

00:58:12.720 She gets arrested.

00:58:13.600 It's epic.

00:58:14.060 I can only tell you, go back and watch, like, treat yourself.

00:58:17.940 Okay, so here she is having been humiliated on a global scale coming back to the show.

00:58:24.720 I've been traveling, I've been to prison, and I just want to be close to home.

00:58:31.040 I've been traveling, I've been to prison, I just want to be close to home.

00:58:35.080 You know, that was the best thing that ever happened to her because she rebirthed herself

00:58:38.280 as a legit cabaret star.

00:58:40.760 And if you want a lesson, you know, Meghan Markle could take a lesson in, like, getting

00:58:44.380 back up after you have fallen down repeatedly in public.

00:58:48.420 Take a lesson, okay?

00:58:49.980 Get some humility.

00:58:50.940 It'll never happen.

00:58:51.840 But, like, I would just like to say, Luann, we love you still.

00:58:55.460 And I maintain hope that Bravo figures out a way to bring back a lot of those originals

00:58:59.260 because they are unparalleled.

00:59:03.200 Okay, next I want to go to this thing that's been leaking in the news that, so Kelly Clarkson

00:59:07.560 is apparently done with her talk show.

00:59:10.060 It's too grueling.

00:59:11.100 She doesn't want to do it anymore.

00:59:12.340 Fine.

00:59:12.580 Now there are all these leaks that, like, who's going to get the job?

00:59:16.480 Hoda Kotb, who recently flounced out of the Today Show, Fourth Hour with Jenna, cushiest

00:59:21.540 job on television, except you've got to talk to Jenna, which is, like, pulling teeth because 0.90

00:59:25.340 she's not that bright.

00:59:27.300 But, you know, they gave Hoda, like, a month-long farewell. 0.99

00:59:30.560 And, like, I kind of feel like that's kind of a fuck you because, like, you build that 0.98

00:59:35.220 person up to basically you're saying to them, no one can replace you, Hoda. 0.99

00:59:39.020 Well, guess what?

00:59:39.520 Anybody can replace Hoda.

00:59:40.620 And they did.

00:59:41.800 They replaced her.

00:59:42.340 So now she's stuck, like, up in Westchester or somewhere, like, taking her kids to school.

00:59:46.580 And, like, it's boring.

00:59:48.380 It's boring.

00:59:49.400 She's in her 60s.

00:59:50.220 So I think these leaks are coming from Camp Hoda, who has nothing to say except stuff,

00:59:55.220 like, again, with Jamie Kern-Lima.

00:59:56.640 Like, I'm on a different cosmic plane with Jamie Kern-Lima.

01:00:01.920 That's all she talked about.

01:00:03.020 Her podcast is called Making Space.

01:00:05.040 Okay, so you know it's just, like, intellectually vapid and totally void.

01:00:09.140 And who's going to hire Hoda for this time slot?

01:00:11.960 She's a good 20 years older than Kelly Clarkson. 0.99

01:00:15.700 She can't have, like, any kind of conversation that's beyond, like, woo-woo, self-affirming bullshit. 0.99

01:00:22.420 I don't see it happening. 0.96

01:00:24.740 Now, Taylor Swift has been dragged into this Blake Lively lawsuit.

01:00:31.100 And she got word last week that she is going to be subpoenaed by Justin Baldoni, who Blake Lively, her former best friend, and Blake's husband, Ryan Reynolds, are trying to take down.

01:00:42.760 Okay, they are trying to take this guy down.

01:00:45.520 And guess what his legal team does? 1.00

01:00:47.100 They're like, well, fuck you. 1.00

01:00:48.440 We're subpoenaing Taylor Swift. 1.00

01:00:50.280 So Taylor Swift's lawyers issued, like, a very lengthy statement.

01:00:56.100 And I will spare you the legalese.

01:00:58.820 I'll just get to the Taylor part of it, which is the 13-year-old mean girl part of it, which is, like, I'm so betrayed.

01:01:05.140 I'm so betrayed by Blake Lively.

01:01:07.560 I'm, like, devastated.

01:01:08.980 I can't believe she would do this to me.

01:01:10.480 I had nothing to do with this.

01:01:11.640 I'm completely floored, her words.

01:01:14.100 I've been exploited.

01:01:15.800 Oh, my God.

01:01:16.260 Okay.

01:01:16.740 So then Taylor and her rumored fiancé, Travis, Kelsey, were spotted and photographed out at a Mother's Day lunch for Travis's mom.

01:01:31.080 And when I tell you, like, people like Taylor Swift get photographed when they want to be photographed, okay?

01:01:37.420 And when people like Taylor Swift want to go out and have a meal in complete privacy, they have people.

01:01:42.220 And it's not even just, like, an assistant. 0.95

01:01:43.820 It's, like, a chief of fucking staff who calls, like, the restaurant and says, so-and-so is coming in. 0.99

01:01:49.060 We need a private room. 1.00

01:01:50.100 And, like, if she wants to be shot, she's going to be shot by paparazzi. 0.85

01:01:53.000 Otherwise, we need a back entrance, et cetera, et cetera.

01:01:55.420 So when she's shot out, like, with regular people at, like, a regular mid-priced American suburban restaurant, that is a message that she is sending, which is, like, I'm innocent.

01:02:07.420 I didn't do anything.

01:02:08.520 Now, I just want to get to one other thing vis-a-vis Taylor, because, you know, Taylor Swift, you don't get to be this famous this long.

01:02:20.140 Mount the most successful, profitable, global musical tour in history.

01:02:26.260 In history, without gunning for it big time, okay?

01:02:31.020 So I have dug out for you guys this email that her father, Scott, wrote.

01:02:37.460 Okay?

01:02:37.800 It's 20 years old.

01:02:38.920 So she's 35 now.

01:02:40.140 So she was around 15 years old when Scott Swift wrote this lengthy email.

01:02:46.300 And you can go look it up.

01:02:47.400 It's part of a legitimate lawsuit that was brought against them by Taylor's former manager, a guy named Daniel, I don't think I'm pronounced, Dimtro, D-Y-M.

01:03:01.100 Anyway, this email is, like, for days.

01:03:04.820 It's, you're, I'm dying.

01:03:06.340 Okay, so he starts out, Dan, bear with me.

01:03:09.360 I need to vent.

01:03:11.160 Okay?

01:03:11.780 Now, he starts by saying, we are getting to a very important time in Taylor's career. 0.97

01:03:17.960 And to keep in mind, quote, I am not quite the idiot that Andrea portrays me to be. 0.92

01:03:23.880 Andrea is Taylor's mom, Scott's now ex-wife.

01:03:27.080 Now, he says, my clients do not want to hear how much stress I am under or what I have done or how much time I have spent copying videotapes and sending them out when Taylor was 11.

01:03:40.480 Okay?

01:03:40.760 These people were hustling.

01:03:42.640 He says, Taylor will define your life's work.

01:03:49.960 Okay?

01:03:50.840 He goes on to say, now, he's a financial advisor and he's bragging a lot about the money he makes for people and why, like, he needs to be taken seriously because he makes a lot of money for a lot of people.

01:03:59.780 Who has made every single client listen to Taylor's latest song before we went over their financial plans?

01:04:08.680 Are you kidding me?

01:04:09.760 If my financial planner says, hey, you got to listen to my kids' demo tape before we can, like, address your very real concern.

01:04:18.460 Like, I'm, like, parachuting out of there immediately.

01:04:21.300 Okay, now we're getting into the martyrdom part of this email.

01:04:24.020 Okay, now keep in mind that, remember when it was rumored that the Olsen twins had, there was, like, a third Olsen who, like, the Olsen parents kept in the basement because they were, like, malformed or something?

01:04:36.200 And, you know, it wasn't true.

01:04:38.220 But Taylor has a brother named Austin and we never hear about Austin and we never see Austin.

01:04:44.700 And I kind of think this may be Austin's choice or he just got the message from his parents and Taylor that, like, he's a total afterthought.

01:04:54.580 And if Taylor needs an organ someday, they'll call you back into this picture.

01:04:58.160 But otherwise, you can stay away.

01:04:59.700 Okay, this is Scott.

01:05:02.560 Who gets to go to New York, New England, and every cool appearance?

01:05:06.240 Not Dad.

01:05:07.160 Can't fix hair. 0.59

01:05:08.560 Dad talks too much.

01:05:09.960 Who pays for trips to New York?

01:05:11.780 Dad.

01:05:12.180 Dad, who makes sure and takes days off to make sure that whether it was Radio Disney, Brit's camp, I'm guessing that's Britney Spears, or any event that we had stuff to give away, CDs, Frisbees, headshots, who even thought to put that stuff together?

01:05:27.320 Who blew up 500 beach balls on the roof for Radio Disney?

01:05:31.320 This sounds like hell.

01:05:32.540 Dad.

01:05:33.580 Quote, it's Britney. 1.00

01:05:34.660 We are going to Britney's camp, but you and Austin can't come.

01:05:39.360 That sounds like he's putting those words in the mouth of his ex-wife, Andrea.

01:05:44.480 We are going to Britney's camp, but you and Austin can't come.

01:05:48.060 Okay, this email is unbelievable.

01:05:50.340 Who gets to babysit Austin?

01:05:52.060 I guess that's Scott.

01:05:53.720 Scott's got to sit with the ringer of these two kids, not the star.

01:05:58.000 Who, at the last minute, has to find some place to print CDs?

01:06:01.460 You got it.

01:06:02.080 Dad, who funds the whole process but does not get to come to the dance?

01:06:07.560 Dad, oh my effing God.

01:06:10.380 He says further, as a financial planner, is it fair to Austin that Taylor is taking her half of the estate now?

01:06:18.880 Probably not. 0.97

01:06:20.040 But no problem, because everybody in the Swift family is involved in making Taylor Swift fucking happen. 0.96

01:06:26.640 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.97

01:06:31.340 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:06:33.900 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

The Megyn Kelly Show - May 17, 2025

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