The Megyn Kelly Show - Matt Walsh and Adam Carolla on Viewpoint Censorship, Alec Baldwin Speaking Out, and Australia's COVID crackdown

00:00:00.560 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.700 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and happy Friday.

00:00:16.240 We have a really fun lineup for you today.

00:00:18.940 Later, I'm going to be joined by Adam Carolla, our old pal, but first up, somebody I've been dying to have on the program.

00:00:24.660 Daily Wire's Matt Walsh. I love Matt Walsh.

00:00:27.800 If you haven't followed Matt Walsh on Twitter, you've been missing out.

00:00:31.840 He's a provocateur. He's super smart. He's loathed by the far left and continues to take them on.

00:00:41.020 He will not be bullied out of his opinions, and I don't agree with them all, but I love that he stands by them and he's just not going to be silenced. Amen.

00:00:47.660 This week, Matt was in the headlines after facing off with protesters at St. Louis University.

00:00:52.460 You know, nothing says we're getting back to normal life like young liberal college snowflakes once again being triggered by the mere thought of a different viewpoint.

00:00:59.500 Ah, Matt Walsh! Kind of feels almost good, right?

00:01:02.920 Matt's also out with a new children's book that would really put them over the edge if they read it, called Johnny the Walrus.

00:01:10.380 Matt, thank you so much for being here.

00:01:12.120 Hey, thanks for having me. It's great.

00:01:13.460 Seriously, big fan. And I do love how you press people's buttons.

00:01:17.460 You're just expressing, look, sometimes it's intentionally provocative, but as I read you and I've listened to your podcast, too, it's basically you're just trying to say how you feel.

00:01:27.480 It drives some of the far left insane and you just don't back down.

00:01:31.780 I've never seen you back down.

00:01:33.120 And this what happened with St. Louis University this week was just the latest example of it.

00:01:38.300 What say you about it?

00:01:39.540 Yeah, I think, well, for one thing, I think that there is value, actually, in kind of provoking the mob almost intentionally.

00:01:46.540 You don't want to say things that you don't believe.

00:01:48.360 I never say anything that I don't believe.

00:01:49.580 And if you get to the point where you're provocateur in the sense of you're saying things just to be inflammatory that you don't actually think are true, then you're a hypocrite and a fraud.

00:01:55.920 But if I notice that there are things I believe and opinions that I actually hold that I'm not supposed to say and it will make people very upset, that I'm more likely to say those things and say them louder.

00:02:09.920 Because the other alternative is what we found in our culture, which is people shirking away in fear, cowering to the mob.

00:02:16.600 And the more that we do that, the more that this is what they feed on.

00:02:19.160 You know, you know, when you apologize to the mob or you back away, it's like throwing slabs of meat to rabid dogs or just you're you're feeding them.

00:02:27.480 And I think the only way if we're ever going to get away from cancel culture and all this kind of stuff, away from this mob mentality, the only way to do it is for people to just stand up, say how they feel and not be afraid of whatever comes next.

00:02:41.500 And the good thing is that what I've found anyway, and there are exceptions to this, of course, but speaking of rabid dogs, mostly it's just it's all bark.

00:02:49.700 And if you stand up and stand firm, they'll back away and go away and find another target.

00:02:55.940 That's that's that's what that's what I've experienced most of the time.

00:02:58.660 And I see you'll give it to the left and the right.

00:03:01.020 It's not you know, you're a more conservative guy, but you're you don't see any sort of, you know, I don't know, holier than thou people on the on the right who you're not allowed to attack, as I've seen you do that, too.

00:03:12.960 And you really don't care. It's like you are who you are.

00:03:14.920 And I love it because we do need a lot more people who are just like that.

00:03:18.760 And I don't care if they're on the left or the right.

00:03:20.080 But, you know, people have to be able to express their opinions the way we used to in this country without constant fear of being silenced or fired or, you know, some sort of major penalty for having a viewpoint that doesn't comport with that of the mob.

00:03:32.240 So you experienced it. I'm sure you experienced it a lot.

00:03:34.840 But the latest was was tell us about St. Louis University and what happened there.

00:03:39.720 Yeah, this is a really it's a really sad kind of a sad situation on a number of levels.

00:03:43.940 I tried to have some some fun with it because what else are you going to do?

00:03:46.840 But the St. Louis University is a Catholic university in name only.

00:03:51.140 It's a Jesuit school. And anyone who knows if you're Catholic, as I am, you know about the Jesuits, then you're probably not going to be surprised.

00:03:56.500 That's surprised by what happened. But as I said, I'm a Catholic invited to speak at a Catholic university.

00:04:02.400 I was originally invited to speak about the pro-life issue.

00:04:06.300 That's that's specifically the title, the topic that they asked me to talk about.

00:04:12.040 Very timely this week. I mean, what's that?

00:04:14.200 Very timely this week with the abortion case going up to the Supreme Court.

00:04:18.520 Right. Exactly. And so it's I'm a Catholic person.

00:04:21.200 I believe in Catholic, a tradition, traditionalist Catholic, which just means that I believe in the doctrines of the church.

00:04:26.940 And I'm supposed to talk about the pro-life issue.

00:04:29.940 The church takes a firm stance on abortion.

00:04:32.900 There's no getting around it.

00:04:34.220 There's no equivocating from from the church's official stance, which is that abortion is intrinsic evil.

00:04:38.480 And and even in spite of that, I was first protested.

00:04:44.340 They put they put together a petition.

00:04:46.140 Two thousand people signed it to make to to have the event called off.

00:04:50.000 And then I started my own petition to keep my event going.

00:04:52.660 And I got 20,000 signatures. So I kind of won the battle of petitions there.

00:04:55.860 And the next step was the university.

00:04:57.420 Rather than just canceling the talk, they took the more cowardly path every step of the way.

00:05:02.840 And so they came up with a whole bunch of arbitrary, quote unquote, COVID restrictions that they had not put in place for any other public event.

00:05:10.620 Like they decided, well, I'm going to have to wear a mask while I'm giving the talk.

00:05:14.760 They put in all kinds of capacity restrictions.

00:05:17.280 We got to check vaccine cards before the event, which, of course, I'm not going to do.

00:05:20.940 And that was their way of trying to shut it down.

00:05:24.200 We moved the event to a church on campus, which invited us to come.

00:05:28.780 And then the next step was 300 faculty and staff signed a statement of solidarity, not with me as the believing Catholic, but with the leftists objecting to my talk.

00:05:39.080 And then the church backed down and they apologized for ever inviting me in the first place.

00:05:42.840 And then we moved our event to a third venue.

00:05:45.220 And that's where it finally happened.

00:05:46.280 But then, you know, dozens and dozens of protesters showed up in the street blocking traffic outside of the event.

00:05:53.920 So this is a lot of effort to have to go through just to say what you believe when it comes to the issue of abortion.

00:06:00.000 And by the way, you were invited.

00:06:02.000 It's not like you got this whole thing started.

00:06:03.800 They treated you so rudely.

00:06:06.220 And and it wasn't even about, as I understand it, what you were going to say that night is about other whatever random tweets they didn't like.

00:06:12.660 But to me, the worst part was the part you mentioned where the priest at the at the church back down and issued this statement attacking you.

00:06:23.860 I mean, I was reading I thought it was just going to be like, OK, we understand he's controversial and people don't know.

00:06:28.620 We're not looking to stir up trouble, so we're not going to host Matt.

00:06:31.720 That would have been bad enough.

00:06:33.300 But he's like going through basically attacking your Catholicism.

00:06:37.960 Like he's got principles that aren't consistent with Catholicism.

00:06:41.340 I'm like, what is going on?

00:06:43.180 This is more than you bargained for.

00:06:45.380 Yeah, he said, if I remember exactly, he claimed that what he finally decided to do is due diligence on me and check my background two days before the event.

00:06:53.360 He hadn't done that before, he said.

00:06:55.120 And I guess pretending he didn't know who I was, didn't know what I was all about before he agreed to have to host my event, which I don't believe at all, by the way.

00:07:03.080 It's I'm quite certain that he knew exactly who I was and what I believe.

00:07:06.120 And he was going to hold the event.

00:07:07.200 But then the backlash was too intense, so he backed down.

00:07:09.900 But as you say, rather than just saying, listen, we don't want to be in the middle of this, that would have been bad enough and cowardly enough.

00:07:15.200 Instead, he demeans and defames and slanders me by saying that I hold positions that are contrary to the Catholic faith.

00:07:21.580 In fact, he says that my statements about communities of color and Islam and immigration are contrary to the teachings of the Catholic faith.

00:07:33.700 What have I ever said about communities of color that's contrary to the Catholic faith?

00:07:39.160 What have I said about Islam?

00:07:40.060 I'll tell you what I've said about Islam.

00:07:41.080 I don't talk about it much, but I guess I've said that I don't think it's the true religion.

00:07:45.380 And I don't think that because I'm Catholic.

00:07:47.100 And so I think Catholicism is true.

00:07:48.720 So is this bigoted now?

00:07:50.340 The view that Catholicism is true and other religions aren't, is this not welcome in a Catholic church?

00:07:54.780 Apparently not.

00:07:55.260 Well, I love to.

00:07:55.660 He also rips on, he also mentions your positions on members of the LGBTQ community.

00:08:02.240 I'm like, the Catholic church is going to rip on this Catholic priest?

00:08:06.020 Doesn't like how you feel about the LGBTQ crowd?

00:08:09.480 Because last I checked, I didn't see a lot of gay couples going down the aisle in advance of Sunday Mass.

00:08:15.620 Yeah, exactly.

00:08:17.840 I mean, if we are kicking speakers off of campus because they have views contrary to Catholic faith,

00:08:23.660 well then, has SLU ever hosted speakers who believe in gay marriage, who support abortion at any stage of pregnancy?

00:08:32.140 Right.

00:08:32.380 I guarantee they have.

00:08:33.740 And those are positions, however you feel about it.

00:08:36.260 I mean, it's just a fact that those are positions that are contrary to official Catholic teaching.

00:08:40.580 In fact, I know that they've hosted speakers like that.

00:08:42.400 They pay those kinds of speakers because they've got 300 faculty and staff on the payroll who apparently hold those views.

00:08:49.800 That's I mean, it's just yet another example of what's happening in our country and how, you know, diehard the the leftism is campus after campus.

00:08:59.300 And, you know, you're you're at the Daily Wire.

00:09:01.040 Ben Shapiro, of course, has had this happen to him many, many times.

00:09:03.920 I've had similar situations where, you know, an article on me or some sort of presence I'm going to have at a university cause some sort of a stir.

00:09:10.840 And to me, it's like kind of funny.

00:09:13.780 It's like slightly amusing that people find you so threatening, you know, but it actually is a serious problem because what they're really doing is shutting down viewpoints.

00:09:21.720 They don't want alternate viewpoints.

00:09:23.040 And it's not just happening, as we know, at the college campuses.

00:09:25.360 The new head of Twitter, he's already on record as being really not in favor of free speech.

00:09:31.100 That he thinks as a country, we're really more in a place now where it's about, you know, proper speech and sort of having the right viewpoints and understanding culturally where we are.

00:09:39.760 So the people who are running our big social media giants and so on feel just as that that priest who kicked you off and those leftists who didn't even want you to speak feel, which is censorship is good and viewpoint discrimination is very much in vogue.

00:09:54.860 Right. The censorship of certain views.

00:09:56.660 And that's that's that's the one thing I think in some ways we almost undersell ourselves when we talk about this kind of backlash that we experience on college campuses or on Twitter or wherever.

00:10:05.860 And we say that this is an attack on differing viewpoints or on freedom of expression.

00:10:10.640 It is that it is that for sure.

00:10:14.180 But it's more egregious than that, because look at the at the actual views they are censoring.

00:10:19.740 I think what makes the reception that I got on on SLU so outrageous is not just that I have a different point of view, but that what I've come there to say is not only in keeping with Catholic teaching, it's also just basically common sense.

00:10:33.800 I mean, you you and I, we don't agree on everything, but we're basically common sense people.

00:10:37.600 And and that's that's those are the views that are not welcome in society.

00:10:41.920 It would be bad enough.

00:10:43.080 I mean, I believe in freedom of expression and everything.

00:10:44.840 So even if somebody has a view that is not common sense, they should still get a hearing and we should be able to as adults talk about that.

00:10:50.280 But it's worse because specifically the common sense views are the ones that are not welcome.

00:10:53.940 The view, for example, another another issue that they had with me is that I believe that, you know, biological sex exists and only women can get pregnant.

00:11:02.960 And this is a view that every single person on Earth throughout the entire history of human civilization has believed up until 12 seconds ago.

00:11:10.480 And and that's a view that's not welcome.

00:11:12.500 So I think it makes it even worse when these are just basic common sense kind of viewpoints that are being shut down.

00:11:18.580 Within the past two years, that wouldn't have been even close to controversial.

00:11:23.940 You know, like the LGBTQ and in particular, the the T lobby and activists have gotten so loud and so nasty in their retribution that a viewpoint that men actually are men and women are actually women.

00:11:37.960 And gender is not a social construct that everyone held as recently as a couple of years ago is now so controversial.

00:11:45.660 You can't even say it.

00:11:47.240 Well, guess what?

00:11:47.960 I say it.

00:11:48.680 You say it.

00:11:49.360 And if people don't like it too bad, they can pound sand.

00:11:51.820 You know what?

00:11:52.160 It's like the problem is conservatives or people who are more right leaning, they don't have a bunch of universities where people want to go and speak and express opposite viewpoints.

00:12:02.260 If they did, they would allow it.

00:12:03.600 You know, the closest thing that there exists on television is Fox News.

00:12:07.580 Fox News will allow the other side to come on and say the thing, unlike MSNBC, you know.

00:12:11.680 And so it's just so annoying that they'll take something that's perfectly mainstream, label it bigoted.

00:12:17.640 And then within a couple of years, they've won because the conservatives have no, you know, equal sized platforms to fight that rhetoric.

00:12:24.680 And the mainstream media just completely takes a knee and submits.

00:12:27.460 Yeah, I think they use a tactic that proves very effective where they're not going to engage with your viewpoint as if it's simply something they agree with or rather as if it's something they simply disagree with.

00:12:39.560 They're not going to approach it that way.

00:12:41.400 If they disagree with you, they're going to act like what you're saying is not only wrong, but the most insane, bigoted, hateful thing that anyone has ever said.

00:12:51.640 I mean, they're going to act like it's absolutely repulsive and repugnant.

00:12:54.460 It's this, you know, this massive overcompensation that they do, but it has the desired effect where, you know, normal people who just work normal jobs and they don't go and speak in front of audiences for a living and they don't give, they don't share their opinion for a living.

00:13:11.820 I think a lot of them, you know, maybe they go out and they say publicly, oh, I think that only women can get pregnant.

00:13:16.040 And then they get a mob of people screaming at them.

00:13:18.440 How dare you say that?

00:13:19.540 And then a lot of people just kind of back away and say, whoa, OK, if that's how you feel about it, I just won't say that anymore.

00:13:26.220 And you can almost understand.

00:13:28.200 I don't think anyone should have that reaction of backing away.

00:13:30.520 But for people who have just kind of normal jobs, you can understand that impulse, which I think which which makes it even more important for those of us who have platforms and who give our opinions for a living.

00:13:39.480 It makes it more important for us to to draw the line, because if we're not going to do it and we do this for a living,

00:13:45.160 then then, you know, what what hope is there?

00:13:47.460 Yeah. Listening to the Supreme Court arguments this week with, you know, the the people who are representing the one abortion clinic in Mississippi and then folks on the other side and then the nine justices,

00:13:57.400 they weren't talking about birthing people.

00:13:59.120 They were talking about women, women, women's bodies, women's lives.

00:14:03.040 So, you know, when you're not on Slate dot com, you might get some real talk.

00:14:06.560 Yeah, that's why I always we talk about how this this change has happened in the last couple of years.

00:14:10.380 And all of a sudden you can't say something that everyone believed.

00:14:12.740 And that's why I always ask when I hear Democrat politicians, especially especially older ones.

00:14:18.080 I mean, let's take Joe Biden as a prime example, 78 years old.

00:14:21.420 And now he's out there talking about trans rights and all this kind of stuff, gender affirming.

00:14:26.280 And my question for him is, is when did you decide that men could give birth?

00:14:33.560 When? Because I know you didn't you didn't you never said that up until you're 78 years old.

00:14:37.860 You didn't start saying that until you were like 70, maybe at the at the earliest.

00:14:42.300 So you lived your whole life believing in biological sex and then you changed your mind.

00:14:49.080 Why? What convinced you?

00:14:50.860 What was there some sort of scientific revelation that I'm not aware of?

00:14:55.200 Did someone discover something and they never told the rest of us?

00:14:57.540 Do you have you have information we don't have?

00:14:59.120 Of course, it's kind of a rhetorical question, because the answer is nothing changed their minds.

00:15:03.860 It's just the political wind shifted.

00:15:05.220 But it is a question I like to ask anyway, because it's just that they can't answer it.

00:15:10.360 There was there was nothing that changed their mind.

00:15:12.120 It's absurd.

00:15:13.920 I don't care.

00:15:14.340 Like you, you're a biological woman and you want to live your life as a man.

00:15:18.140 Go for it.

00:15:18.800 That's up to you.

00:15:19.460 But if you happen to get pregnant and have a baby, the reason you're able to do that is

00:15:24.220 because you're a biological woman, period.

00:15:26.340 That's what's real.

00:15:28.300 If people don't want to hear it, OK, fine.

00:15:31.100 But you can't silence speech.

00:15:32.920 You can't call everybody bigoted just because they adhere to something that we've understood

00:15:36.860 very fundamentally since the beginning of time.

00:15:40.660 And to me, it's ironic because yesterday after the Supreme Court arguments, you've got Nancy

00:15:44.300 Pelosi saying the Republican justices or the more conservative justices need a lesson on the

00:15:48.940 birds and the bees.

00:15:50.600 They need a lesson on the birds and the bees.

00:15:53.620 It's your side that's trying to explain, you know, just redefine everything about gender,

00:15:58.680 sexuality and so on.

00:16:00.280 And you look at the right side of the country like they're nuts.

00:16:03.520 So in the wake of the abortion argument on Wednesday at the Supreme Court, you know,

00:16:09.400 Wednesday, and then we were doing the deconstruct yesterday.

00:16:12.100 And just to get people up to speed real quickly on that, the biggest case challenging Roe versus

00:16:16.180 Wade went up to the Supreme Court this week.

00:16:18.340 The oral arguments did not go well for the people who are fighting to save Roe.

00:16:22.420 They did go well for the people in Mississippi who are trying to challenge Roe versus Wade as

00:16:28.140 a precedent.

00:16:28.800 And then it's follow up in 1992, Casey.

00:16:32.380 And what they want is an overruling of this of this case law and for this to be kicked back

00:16:36.680 to the states.

00:16:37.260 And if that happened, abortion might be legal in some states and it might be illegal in other

00:16:41.080 states.

00:16:41.360 The way we think it would shake out is probably in most states it would remain legal.

00:16:45.260 In some states, it would be unlawful.

00:16:47.400 And women in those states that wanted an abortion would have to cross state lines, cross state

00:16:51.220 lines to do so.

00:16:53.820 OK, so we don't know how the Supreme Court is going to rule, but it was a good day for

00:16:57.380 conservatives at the Supreme Court this week.

00:16:59.820 So that's why some of the people on the far left are really losing their minds.

00:17:04.500 I want to talk in particular about Whoopi Goldberg and AOC.

00:17:08.020 Whoopi Goldberg hit on a note that I've seen you take on before, Matt, on Twitter, which was

00:17:12.920 basically to take issue with any man or male justice who thinks he gets to weigh in on

00:17:17.260 this issue at all.

00:17:19.360 Listen to her.

00:17:21.340 The fetus has an interest in having a life and that doesn't change, does it?

00:17:27.380 From the point before viability to the point after viability.

00:17:31.800 Do any of you men have any eggs or the possibility of carrying a fetus?

00:17:38.320 How dare you talk about what a fetus wants?

00:17:40.420 You have no idea.

00:17:43.520 Thoughts on that?

00:17:45.200 Where do you even begin?

00:17:46.400 I mean, first of all, we were all fetuses at one time.

00:17:49.820 So I think if that's the qualification here, then maybe we should we can all speak for speak

00:17:54.060 on that level from that experience.

00:17:56.480 Also, I think if if you if you have a person and you're not able to ask them.

00:18:03.120 If they want to be murdered, then it's probably just best to assume they don't want it.

00:18:09.380 So I think it's a safe assumption that no child in the womb, if given the option, would

00:18:13.980 elect to be have their skulls crushed or be dismembered.

00:18:17.000 And, you know, and we could ask every person who's living today if they're happy that didn't

00:18:21.380 happen to them.

00:18:21.880 And I'm pretty sure almost all of them would say yes.

00:18:23.460 And also there's there's just the fundamental absurdity of men can't weigh in on the abortion

00:18:28.940 issue.

00:18:29.580 Roe v.

00:18:29.960 Wade was decided by exclusively by men.

00:18:33.640 So if men aren't allowed to have an opinion, then that's then that's reason enough to get

00:18:37.300 rid of Roe v.

00:18:37.780 Wade, I suppose.

00:18:38.500 But then we find out that what they really mean when they say men can't have an opinion,

00:18:42.240 what they actually mean is men can't have an opinion that that differs from us.

00:18:46.180 As long as men are echoing our points, then it's OK.

00:18:49.520 But then but then we get to the biggest problem at all right now for Whoopi Goldberg, which

00:18:53.480 is that she can't use this line anymore.

00:18:56.420 That that's gone now.

00:18:57.880 I mean, what she just said there is is outrageous rank transphobia, according to the new rules.

00:19:02.580 Right.

00:19:03.000 Because according to those rules, men, some men do have eggs.

00:19:06.240 Some men do carry babies.

00:19:07.600 Maybe I could.

00:19:08.220 Who knows?

00:19:08.600 I mean, that's those are the rules say.

00:19:10.180 It's so true, Matt.

00:19:11.420 If we're going under the new rules, then how dare she exclude men from being able to comment

00:19:16.480 on this?

00:19:16.820 And all Justice Alito was saying was that the fetus has an interest in being born and

00:19:21.640 having its life, not controversial, not even a little.

00:19:25.480 But I don't think that's actually what she was upset about, because that's such a no brainer.

00:19:29.460 I mean, Whoopi can understand that.

00:19:31.860 It's a lot of women think men shouldn't talk about the abortion issue at all, that they

00:19:37.280 have no standing to say anything about it because they're not the ones who have to carry

00:19:41.780 the baby as if when the baby comes into the world, men under the law are somehow completely

00:19:48.040 exempted from any responsibilities toward the child.

00:19:51.080 That's not actually how it works.

00:19:53.000 And it's frankly not how it works morally either, which is why men absolutely have the

00:19:58.480 right to weigh in, though ultimately, as the laws recognize as well, the final decision

00:20:03.320 will be in the woman's hands.

00:20:04.660 Yeah, if if if it's true that men have no interest here and should have no say, even

00:20:10.180 though they were 50 percent of the ingredients that went into creating that that shot.

00:20:14.100 I mean, there isn't there is no, quote unquote, fetus in a womb who was who came into existence

00:20:19.640 without the without the integral assistance of a man.

00:20:22.480 Yeah, just based on eggs, as she says, do you have eggs?

00:20:24.780 Do you have eggs?

00:20:25.300 Well, do you have sperm, Whoopi?

00:20:26.580 I mean, like it takes both.

00:20:28.360 Exactly.

00:20:29.040 But also, if if that's the case and this is none of our business, we should put out, then

00:20:34.100 why aren't they calling for the end of, you know, child support laws and that sort of

00:20:37.180 thing?

00:20:37.400 Because they certainly want if the child is born, they want the men to be on the hook.

00:20:41.420 And I agree with that, by the way.

00:20:42.540 I think men should be required to care for their children.

00:20:45.520 But there's no reason why that shouldn't extend into the womb.

00:20:48.880 That's that's what makes it ridiculous.

00:20:49.820 And also, like this, it's so irrelevant to the question, because the question with the

00:20:53.740 with this issue with abortion is, well, there are a couple of questions.

00:20:57.540 One is the the person in the womb.

00:21:01.280 Is that a human being?

00:21:03.740 Is it a person?

00:21:05.200 And if it is a human being and a person, could could it possibly be OK to intentionally destroy

00:21:10.640 that person?

00:21:12.660 Those are the those are the questions.

00:21:14.940 And whether you're a man or a woman, you're perfectly capable of thinking about those questions

00:21:19.180 and coming to a conclusion about them.

00:21:21.700 That's right.

00:21:22.820 AOC went a different way.

00:21:24.560 She's trying to delegitimize the Supreme Court before they've even issued their ruling.

00:21:29.680 And she took issue in particular with Justice Kavanaugh.

00:21:34.140 Hold on a second.

00:21:34.800 We can put the tweet up.

00:21:36.040 I've got to actually find it because it's not in front of me.

00:21:38.460 But oh, gosh, I can't read that.

00:21:41.260 I can't even read.

00:21:42.560 My God, is anybody else losing their eyesight as they get older?

00:21:45.340 I'll pull it in front of me and we'll do it right after the break so I can my 51 year

00:21:50.120 old eyes can help us get through the segment.

00:21:51.680 Let's take a quick pause.

00:21:52.840 I'll pull up the tweet and we'll have much more with Matt Walsh on Joe Biden, on Alec

00:21:58.480 Baldwin, Jussie Smollett.

00:22:00.600 You would not believe the antics in the Jussie Smollett courtroom yesterday.

00:22:04.240 You will not believe I'll bring them to you.

00:22:06.360 Don't go anywhere.

00:22:07.000 OK, so here's the tweet from AOC reminder that Brett Kavanaugh still remains credibly

00:22:20.060 accused of sexual assault on multiple accounts with corroborated details.

00:22:25.380 And this year, the FBI admitted admitted it never fully investigated.

00:22:28.740 Yet the court is letting him decide on whether to legalized legalized forced birth in the

00:22:36.180 U.S.

00:22:36.900 No recusal.

00:22:38.180 The second one was out of nine justices, three were appointed by a man who tried to overthrow

00:22:42.980 the U.S. government and elected via minority.

00:22:45.460 Those three will decide whether the U.S. will legalize forcing people to give birth against

00:22:49.020 their will.

00:22:49.960 Legitimacy requires consent of the governed.

00:22:52.220 They governed.

00:22:53.080 They are dismantling it.

00:22:54.380 Matt, I laugh when I saw this because I thought, OK, there are no remaining credible allegations

00:23:00.160 against Brett Kavanaugh.

00:23:01.520 They were completely dismantled.

00:23:02.680 We watched it happen before our very eyes.

00:23:04.860 She's talking about people like Julie Swetnick, whose claims fell apart on live television.

00:23:08.840 I was at NBC when it happened.

00:23:10.460 Kate Snow interviewed her.

00:23:11.820 She fell down on every single claim she'd been making against Brett Kavanaugh.

00:23:15.540 There were internal discussions within NBC whether we could even air the thing.

00:23:18.860 It was such a disaster.

00:23:20.060 But in the end, in a way, they did just as Kavanaugh.

00:23:24.000 Now, Justice, a service because she completely imploded.

00:23:27.480 This was a Michael Avenatti client.

00:23:29.180 Another one that NBC also put on the air.

00:23:31.800 It was a claim about someone who was anonymous claiming they they saw Brett Kavanaugh in his

00:23:37.100 college years shove another person up against a brick wall, a girlfriend.

00:23:41.320 Well, it turned out the mother who was allegedly it was the mother of the person allegedly shoved

00:23:45.880 said that was a complete lie.

00:23:47.500 The person was never shoved.

00:23:48.680 All of it fell apart.

00:23:49.760 But the media loved to report it and run with it.

00:23:51.560 And Christine Blasey Ford, the main witness, was never able to produce a single witness

00:23:54.940 to corroborate any of what she said, anything that she was at a party with Brett Kavanaugh,

00:23:59.520 that she ever knew Brett Kavanaugh, that that there was ever an incident between them.

00:24:03.040 She herself couldn't remember when it happened, where it happened.

00:24:05.820 Even her own best friend didn't support her story, said, I don't know anything about it.

00:24:09.940 I cannot support any of these allegations.

00:24:11.860 OK, so for the record, that's the Brett Kavanaugh piece.

00:24:15.240 But the other piece of it is if you want to get into justices on the high court and who

00:24:19.860 they were appointed by.

00:24:21.140 Right.

00:24:21.600 So whether we should consider their viewpoints.

00:24:24.000 Let's talk about Breyer, who was appointed by Bill Clinton.

00:24:27.000 Should we be discounting the opinions of justices sitting there today because those who put them

00:24:31.600 on the bench had some checkered history or allegations against them because the ones against

00:24:36.240 Bill Clinton were far, far more serious than the ones against Donald Trump?

00:24:39.240 And I followed them all your thoughts.

00:24:42.920 Yeah, well, on the on the Kavanaugh part of it, I mean, I think you covered that really

00:24:46.840 well.

00:24:47.580 It's but what we see is this alternative universe that the Democrats have created, the corporate

00:24:53.960 media has created.

00:24:54.720 Of course, I kind of repeat myself.

00:24:56.120 They're in the same club, but they create this this alternative universe with alternative

00:25:01.000 facts, I suppose.

00:25:02.420 And it just it simply doesn't matter what happens in the real world.

00:25:05.240 I mean, Rittenhouse is a perfect most recent example of that.

00:25:07.840 And the fact that you want to talk about claims falling apart, that's what happened there.

00:25:12.540 He was acquitted and in front of the world.

00:25:15.500 Everyone knows it.

00:25:16.300 But if you ask any Democrats, they're going to say as far as they're concerned, he's still

00:25:20.380 a murderer.

00:25:21.780 So we see that.

00:25:22.760 And as far as as far as the Roe v. Wade part of it, the interesting thing, whether it's

00:25:28.420 AOC impugning this based on Kavanaugh and his alleged indiscretions or Whoopi Goldberg

00:25:34.800 talking about how this is an attack on women or whatever else it is.

00:25:37.840 You notice the one thing none of these people are doing is offering a constitutional defense

00:25:43.860 of Roe v. Wade.

00:25:45.740 Yeah, it's all been starting to never hear.

00:25:48.120 Yeah.

00:25:48.300 The whole argument, even in court, was like stare decisis, respect for precedent.

00:25:51.820 It was less of a let me point you to exactly where in the Constitution this right to abortion

00:25:56.800 arises.

00:25:57.200 It was more like, well, that's the Supreme Court said in 1973.

00:25:59.740 And it was affirmed by Casey in 92.

00:26:01.700 So we should stand by it.

00:26:04.180 And as we know, the Supreme Court has said things that all civilized people now agree

00:26:08.200 were wrong, like when they affirmed slavery.

00:26:10.640 So we know that as it turns out, the Supreme Court is populated by mortal human beings who

00:26:15.280 can be wrong about things.

00:26:16.420 And they were certainly wrong about this.

00:26:17.540 And that's why the left, they just don't talk about it.

00:26:19.880 Because it's absurd to suggest, I mean, if you're an honest person, even if you support

00:26:24.960 abortion, the only honest stance to take is, yes, I support abortion.

00:26:29.240 I think it should be legal.

00:26:30.580 But obviously, it's not in the Constitution.

00:26:32.760 There's nothing in the Constitution saying a right to abortion.

00:26:34.940 The founding fathers didn't have that anywhere.

00:26:37.320 It was not anywhere in the ballpark of anything they were thinking about.

00:26:40.780 And that's just, that's obviously clear.

00:26:43.100 We know that it's clear because the left ignores it completely and doesn't even talk about it.

00:26:46.920 Yeah, no, it's a legal fiction.

00:26:49.380 It's based on the so-called right to privacy, which also is not in the Constitution, derived

00:26:54.140 from the right to liberty, which is.

00:26:56.720 And Griswold versus Connecticut, which recognized the privacy right, has led to all sorts of social

00:27:03.580 decisions, whether it's gay marriage or the right to use contraception or the right to have

00:27:08.720 sex the way you want to have sex in your bedroom, so on.

00:27:10.960 None of which is at risk, depending on this case.

00:27:14.520 The only one that is on the table right now is the abortion right and the crazy logic

00:27:18.940 of Roe v. Wade, even if you are pro-choice, truly.

00:27:21.460 I mean, I know a lot of pro-choice women and lawyers who would tell you Roe is a disaster

00:27:25.940 as a legal opinion.

00:27:26.820 They know it, but they just want to see it remain legal for all sorts of other reasons,

00:27:30.620 which, you know, you can argue either way.

00:27:34.100 Jeffrey Toobin, I can't let this slide.

00:27:36.000 I'm sorry, but he felt the need to weigh in.

00:27:38.380 He is an expert on the Supreme Court.

00:27:40.060 I will give him that.

00:27:41.580 That is one of the reasons why he should have lost his job when he was caught masturbating

00:27:45.920 on screen.

00:27:47.360 He's a CNN contributor, but this is for his job at New York Magazine or The New Yorker.

00:27:51.680 I can't remember.

00:27:52.300 They're all the same to me.

00:27:53.980 In any event, my point all along was he's too his credibility, his gravitas is too important

00:28:00.520 in covering that court for him to go on.

00:28:02.220 But, you know, once you've seen his Johnson, that's it.

00:28:04.600 Him pleasuring himself in front of all his colleagues.

00:28:06.380 Bye.

00:28:07.020 Can't do that job anymore.

00:28:08.000 He is, thanks to Jeff Zucker and CNN, and he tweets out something to the effect of for

00:28:12.420 abortion supporters.

00:28:13.340 The argument the other day was, quote, a wall to wall disaster.

00:28:18.220 And there's a reason Jeffrey Toobin felt so personally offended by by that not going in

00:28:23.720 favor of the pro-choice side, which is he himself has been in the news.

00:28:28.200 It's been well reported.

00:28:29.340 He got the daughter of a colleague pregnant and then insisted she abort the baby and told

00:28:36.080 her he wouldn't be paying child support if she didn't.

00:28:38.620 She refused.

00:28:39.640 She had the baby.

00:28:40.960 The child's alive and well right now.

00:28:44.600 And he was dragged to the support issue kicking and screaming.

00:28:47.840 So charming guy.

00:28:50.040 Yeah.

00:28:50.360 And you see how, of course, one of the features of cancel culture is that it is it is obviously

00:28:56.400 not consistent.

00:28:57.420 It's arbitrary.

00:28:58.380 It's it's it's run by like people at CNN, for example.

00:29:01.800 So they decide who to apply it to, which is how some which which is the way that somehow

00:29:05.900 Jeffrey Toobin is not canceled, despite I mean, I don't we don't get too graphic about

00:29:11.120 it, but I do think it's worth emphasizing what he did.

00:29:14.480 I mean, we talk about how he was accidentally caught on camera doing that.

00:29:18.800 And yeah, it was accidental in the sense that he didn't know the camera was on.

00:29:23.000 But he was in a Zoom meeting with his colleagues and he did intentionally perform that act while

00:29:28.640 in the meeting, presumably like watching his colleagues.

00:29:31.600 And the only mistake was that he didn't he didn't realize the camera was on and they

00:29:34.200 would see him doing it.

00:29:35.180 So this is this is workplace masturbation that took place.

00:29:39.900 And even if it was at home, he was still on a Zoom call.

00:29:42.340 And of all of the things that could get a person canceled, of all the things that we

00:29:46.200 consider to be sexual harassment in the workplace.

00:29:48.780 I mean, you could give a woman a compliment at the water cooler and potentially be accused

00:29:52.460 of sexual harassment.

00:29:53.800 And that doesn't qualify.

00:29:55.160 He still keeps his job.

00:29:56.220 Well, it just shows you, you know, CNN, they are one of the arbiters of cancel culture.

00:30:00.680 And no, he's our guy.

00:30:02.360 And we want to keep him around.

00:30:04.200 So we look at what's happening with Chris Cuomo.

00:30:06.500 And Chris Cuomo has been suspended indefinitely.

00:30:09.620 Matt, I don't know what that means.

00:30:10.800 If they're going to fire him, why isn't he fired?

00:30:12.720 I mean, there's a very good chance.

00:30:13.880 And in fact, if you listen to what, you know, the hall monitor says, Brian's Delta, he's

00:30:17.360 making it sound like Cuomo's coming back after the holidays.

00:30:20.740 So, OK, so you can it's come out that he harassed Shelley Ross at ABC when he worked with her

00:30:26.380 as a senior executive producer of his own.

00:30:29.000 She had just left that role, grabbed her ass in front of her husband, in front of all of

00:30:33.680 their colleagues at a Christmas party.

00:30:35.080 I mean, grabbed like she came on the show, squeezed it.

00:30:38.500 And it was a diminishing thing for what had been a male underling to do to a female superior.

00:30:44.260 And that's the reason he did it, to humiliate her.

00:30:46.700 Another female executive producer was forced to quit his current show.

00:30:50.040 See, the reports because she felt bullied by him.

00:30:52.100 CNN didn't care.

00:30:52.760 They turfed her off to like the digital world.

00:30:54.700 She's no longer an EP of primetime, but he's there.

00:30:57.660 His fake covid act coming out of the basement and then all the stuff he's done with his brother.

00:31:03.240 And I'm not somebody who takes issue with a brother helping a brother.

00:31:05.980 I am somebody as a news anchor who would say, you just need to say, audience, please forgive

00:31:10.640 me.

00:31:10.960 I need three weeks off.

00:31:12.240 I'm going to help my brother do this thing and they'll come back.

00:31:14.580 Would have been very simple.

00:31:15.800 He just couldn't.

00:31:16.500 He was too drunk on his own wine.

00:31:17.840 He needed to see his face on the air every night.

00:31:20.080 So he wouldn't choose.

00:31:22.100 And now it comes out.

00:31:23.180 He's he lied repeatedly about how deep he was into it.

00:31:25.820 And, you know, all smearing the accusers before he knew anything.

00:31:29.420 And he should be fired.

00:31:30.820 But they don't have ethics over there.

00:31:32.400 Yeah, I think of all the things you listed, including especially the covid stunt that he

00:31:38.480 pulled there, I consider all of that.

00:31:41.160 Those are those are all worse, I think, than what he did with for his brother, which obviously

00:31:45.080 was not ethical from a journalistic standpoint.

00:31:47.260 But I also agree that, you know, I tend to give people leeway when they're helping out

00:31:51.540 family members.

00:31:52.500 It doesn't make it OK, but I, you know, I understand it on that level.

00:31:55.520 But even so, all the other things, many other reasons to fire him and but he's going to

00:32:01.340 get get the exception.

00:32:02.360 We have to understand this.

00:32:03.280 Why?

00:32:03.400 I always emphasize about cancel culture that it is.

00:32:06.440 There's a couple of things about it.

00:32:07.860 Number one, it is it is a left wing phenomenon because they run all the institutions.

00:32:12.660 So, yeah, of course, there are people that that those of us on the right don't like.

00:32:18.400 But when when we talk about how we don't like someone, you can't call that cancel culture

00:32:21.920 because it's not we don't we don't run and own the institutions.

00:32:25.720 Cancel culture is a power play.

00:32:27.760 It's something where the institutions can basically erase you.

00:32:31.760 And the left runs all those institutions, including CNN.

00:32:35.020 So that's that's how it works.

00:32:37.280 Meanwhile, cancel culture really didn't come for Jussie Smollett.

00:32:40.400 You still have people on the left defending him and weirdly standing by his original claim

00:32:47.180 that he was attacked in the middle of the polar vortex in Chicago.

00:32:51.920 At two in the morning, while he was allegedly the star of Empire going to get a Subway sandwich.

00:32:56.880 It was I mean, it was very clearly a lie.

00:32:59.260 I don't know who is trying to still delude themselves that this is in any way possible.

00:33:03.180 The two guys who allegedly.

00:33:04.660 Well, I mean, they did attack him, but he paid them to do it.

00:33:07.920 That's what the allegation is.

00:33:09.360 They've taken the stand in this trial, which is underway this week.

00:33:12.560 They both testified that they were friends with him.

00:33:14.840 He said, can I trust you?

00:33:15.800 They said yes.

00:33:17.360 He gave him a check and they rehearsed it.

00:33:20.160 They drove to the spot the night before.

00:33:22.440 He was very specific.

00:33:23.640 Take a put a noose around me.

00:33:25.800 Originally, they said he wanted them to pour gasoline on him.

00:33:30.040 But the brother, the one brother said, I'm not comfortable with that.

00:33:32.860 So they settled on bleach.

00:33:35.400 Rough me up, but not too bad.

00:33:37.160 He didn't want to be punched.

00:33:38.440 It was just one of some scratches.

00:33:39.540 So it looked good and yell something homophobic and racist and then say this is MAGA country.

00:33:47.720 The whole thing was scripted.

00:33:48.780 I mean, he's an actor.

00:33:49.560 He's in the entertainment business.

00:33:50.880 So we scripted it out for them.

00:33:52.460 They did it.

00:33:53.540 Everyone started to play their sad little violin, including Kamala Harris.

00:33:57.400 And it turns out to be a big lie.

00:33:58.820 So just the update yesterday from court.

00:34:00.500 It's unbelievable that Judge James Lynn denied a routine motion for a directed verdict.

00:34:06.320 And the defense lawyer started crying in court.

00:34:09.960 This woman starts crying and then accused the judge of, like, threatening her, saying,

00:34:15.200 like, he came for her across the bench.

00:34:16.580 Like, he leaned in as if he was threatening.

00:34:18.900 They're losing.

00:34:19.920 That's what's happening.

00:34:20.660 The defense is imploding.

00:34:21.860 They have no case.

00:34:22.940 Their client's going down.

00:34:24.580 They should have just admitted to it and tried to bargain on the sentence or the punishment.

00:34:28.880 But nothing they've thrown at this defendant is sticking.

00:34:32.740 And now even the lawyers are melting down.

00:34:36.360 But you I mean, I wonder whether Jussie Smollett, whatever is happens, guilty, not guilty.

00:34:42.100 He will not be canceled from finding another role, becoming a star.

00:34:46.000 And he will never admit the truth.

00:34:47.700 And the media won't hold him to it.

00:34:49.220 Yeah.

00:34:49.380 Oh, yeah, for sure.

00:34:50.540 Because as far as they're concerned, well, this is what they always do with these hate

00:34:53.680 hoaxes.

00:34:54.120 And by the way, they're always hoaxes.

00:34:56.780 Every single one of these.

00:34:57.800 It's really kind of remarkable.

00:34:58.800 The unbroken streak we've had over the last I don't know how many years.

00:35:01.940 You know, many years where you hear these these these these sorts of hate crime stories

00:35:07.260 and very high profile and then they always fall apart.

00:35:11.100 But one of the excuses that you hear after the fact is that, well, you know, this didn't

00:35:16.540 happen, but it could have happened.

00:35:18.140 And we live in a country where this sort of thing does happen.

00:35:20.860 And so we might as well just act like it did.

00:35:23.080 And maybe Justice Milet was trying to call attention to this great problem of white supremacists

00:35:26.600 hanging out in Chicago at 2 a.m.

00:35:28.040 and assaulting people on the way to subway.

00:35:29.820 So, you know, that's the way they'll look at it.

00:35:32.240 It's like Fauci, the noble lie, the noble lie.

00:35:34.800 Right.

00:35:35.220 Right.

00:35:35.480 Exactly.

00:35:35.860 I just on one hand, you want to laugh about it, because when it comes to hate hoaxers,

00:35:41.220 as always, they're not sending their best.

00:35:43.220 And this guy, he knew he knew that there were security cameras there.

00:35:47.760 That's why he chose that spot.

00:35:49.360 Right.

00:35:49.620 And why he hired people to beat him up, but then he still drove by and did the little

00:35:54.120 dry run thing in front of the security cameras that he knew were there.

00:35:58.160 And also just the fact that, listen, not to give anyone advice if you want to do it, you

00:36:01.200 know, because you shouldn't do hate hoaxes, but if you're going to do it, the best move

00:36:05.400 is to don't actually, don't do anything.

00:36:09.020 Just claim that something happened and do nothing at all.

00:36:13.080 And then it's very hard to prove that nothing happened, right?

00:36:16.240 When nothing happens, it's hard to disprove that.

00:36:18.760 But if you actually stage a real event and you involve other people, well, now there

00:36:23.640 are things we can look at and there's evidence.

00:36:25.160 Well, I have an addendum to that.

00:36:26.940 I haven't.

00:36:27.240 If you choose to stage it, if you disregard rule number one, rule number two is if trying

00:36:34.160 to create the impression of a race crime, hire white actors to attack you if you are

00:36:40.340 a black man, not two other black men.

00:36:42.360 So it's not going to fly.

00:36:44.660 That's another piece of advice to take into account.

00:36:48.140 But also, we call this, I'm calling it a hate hoax, but really it's, I think that understates

00:36:53.660 it a little bit.

00:36:54.600 This is not just a hoax.

00:36:56.300 This is a scam.

00:36:57.820 This is a con.

00:36:58.960 And it might've been planned poorly and stupidly, but it was planned.

00:37:02.140 He had a financial motivation behind it, apparently.

00:37:03.980 He wanted to, you know, allegedly, or at least that would be my theory, that he was looking

00:37:08.960 for another contract or whatever.

00:37:10.620 Yeah, that's been alleged.

00:37:12.240 And yeah, so I would call this more of a con than even a hoax.

00:37:17.240 He was caught.

00:37:18.480 And I'd love to hear Kamala Harris reverse herself or all the media.

00:37:22.660 There was a long butted soundbite we ran not long after it.

00:37:26.200 And it was just all the media like this disgusting, this country.

00:37:30.040 How could they, you know, the racist, the America, the MAGA supporters, you know, the

00:37:34.940 guys in the hats.

00:37:35.720 It was like, you are such chumps.

00:37:37.940 It was a complete lie and you fell for it because you wanted to, or maybe you didn't.

00:37:42.400 You just loved the excuse to sort of show how woke you were and get your little accolades

00:37:47.660 on Twitter.

00:37:48.520 It's pathetic.

00:37:49.800 They've, they've, they're frauds or they fell for a fraud.

00:37:52.520 Either way, it's embarrassing.

00:37:54.240 Matt Walsh is staying with us and we're going to talk about his children's book and, and what's

00:37:58.440 on his shirt, because I actually have some interest in that.

00:38:00.640 I know what that's about.

00:38:01.620 And you'll be interested to hear his theory of life and civility in America.

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00:38:45.440 Matt, a word on the transgender thing.

00:38:47.360 Um, there is a case it's at university of Pennsylvania, a story coming out of university

00:38:52.320 of Pennsylvania, a trans swimmer.

00:38:54.440 So biological man, uh, whose name was will Thomas spent three years in college competing

00:38:59.080 as a man, as a man.

00:39:01.180 Now, will says he's a woman and he is now crushing.

00:39:05.840 She now is crushing records in the women's events.

00:39:09.180 There was an event on November 20th, a try meet with Cornell and Princeton and UPenn.

00:39:12.960 And, uh, will I'm, uh, forgive me.

00:39:16.320 I don't know the new name.

00:39:17.740 Uh, no, now she's Leah is, uh, competing as a female in the 200 meter, the 500 meter

00:39:23.500 freestyle posting times that beat almost every other female swimmer across America, almost

00:39:28.440 every single one across America.

00:39:30.740 And, um, advocates for, you know, trans athletes.

00:39:34.520 One of them has come out and said, Oh, Leah Thomas is not dominating women's swimming in

00:39:39.000 the U S Leah got a 49 point 42 in the 100 meter freestyle.

00:39:43.360 The USA record is 45.

00:39:44.960 Leah got a 1 point 45 in the 200 meter.

00:39:47.360 The USA record is one 39.

00:39:48.840 So basically this person goes to the records ever set, right?

00:39:53.580 The records set by any woman ever to say that Leah is really not a threat to the women who

00:39:59.180 are competing now because Leah didn't manage to break every single record while swimming,

00:40:03.880 but Leah crushed every other biological woman, uh, swimming in these meets and will continue

00:40:10.160 to because Leah last year and for the rest of Leah's life was a man will and doing pretty

00:40:17.520 well as a male swimmer.

00:40:18.380 So, and this comes at the same time that, that the, that the IOC international Olympic

00:40:23.580 committee is loosening its rules on trans athletes.

00:40:26.880 Um, according to the guardian, the new guidelines that they're putting in place for the Olympics,

00:40:31.980 it comes into place after, after the Beijing winter Olympics will suggest that trans women

00:40:36.960 again, biological men who transition to women should no longer be required to reduce their

00:40:42.540 testosterone levels to compete.

00:40:44.740 They, they will not accept a presumption that trans women have an automatic advantage over

00:40:51.600 other women.

00:40:53.600 How do you think that's going to go?

00:40:55.400 Well, right.

00:40:55.780 Trans we're told trans women are women.

00:40:57.780 They're exactly the same.

00:40:58.720 And so this is just a logical extension of that.

00:41:00.460 If we're expected to believe that, uh, will is, is a woman just like any other, then why

00:41:05.600 would you make requirements that he take pills or do anything else that any other woman doesn't

00:41:10.180 have to do?

00:41:10.780 So of course it was always headed in that direction.

00:41:13.360 The, the argument that he doesn't have an advantage because he hasn't beat the world record

00:41:17.620 is of course, completely absurd.

00:41:19.120 It also doesn't matter by the way.

00:41:20.840 I mean, even if he was losing to the girls, it still would not make any sense or be fair because

00:41:25.740 he is not a woman and they are, and he belongs with the men, but also my, the real question

00:41:30.640 I think is, um, or the really revealing comparison is, uh, how did he rank among the men?

00:41:37.680 And I'm, I'm going to, I don't know this, but I'm going to bet that he was not crushing

00:41:42.020 the competition against the men.

00:41:43.460 And what we find so often in the case in Connecticut, these, these two boys started racing against

00:41:48.180 the girls in Connecticut, a famous case, and these were middling athletes.

00:41:51.800 I mean, they, they barely would have qualified for state tournaments and that sort of thing

00:41:55.580 against the men.

00:41:56.440 They certainly weren't winning anything and then they go against the girls and they're

00:42:00.040 always in the top three.

00:42:01.160 So you take a, you could take a poor athlete or a middling athlete by male standards, put

00:42:06.260 them against females.

00:42:07.100 And he is the worst thing you could say about him is that he doesn't have the world record.

00:42:11.060 You know, uh, it's just, it's, this is, this is emperor has no clothes or maybe the emperor

00:42:15.920 is wearing women's clothes.

00:42:16.800 I don't know how we want to put it, but it's this absurdity that we're all supposed to accept.

00:42:22.360 I mean, this man, he, he, he raced against men for three years and now he's a woman.

00:42:27.020 He grew his hair out and now we're supposed to pretend that this is a woman.

00:42:30.860 It's and anybody who objects is called a bigot that I had those Connecticut girls on my

00:42:34.960 show.

00:42:35.620 Um, it's in the archives that I was mentioning and they, it was two young women who were there

00:42:40.960 young.

00:42:41.500 They're obviously totally open-minded to all of these issues, you know, as all the

00:42:45.300 new sort of young Gen Zers are and, um, they, they don't want to be called bigots.

00:42:50.420 They just want a fair race.

00:42:51.560 You know, these are girls who are up and coming, who'd been winning, who'd been training their

00:42:54.140 whole lives, hoping for scholarships to college.

00:42:56.340 And then two, two boys who'd been running as, as boys the year earlier transition to girls

00:43:01.920 with no hormones required, nothing required, um, and start crushing them.

00:43:07.080 It's ridiculous.

00:43:09.100 Um, okay, so let, let's move on.

00:43:10.980 Cause there's so much more to talk about.

00:43:11.960 I wanted to get to, before we get to your book, can we talk about Waukesha?

00:43:14.880 Because while we're on the subject of the media of race and so on and how they cover

00:43:19.020 these issues, um, we, we've been told that, um, we, we can't be colorblind anymore, right?

00:43:26.280 We've got to, we've got to see color.

00:43:27.880 We've got to call things out.

00:43:28.920 Well, they got awfully colorblind in Waukesha, Wisconsin, when it turned out that the man

00:43:34.280 who mowed down those 60 plus people killing, uh, six, including an eight year old, uh, was

00:43:40.280 a black man who had made very anti white and anti Jewish statements on his social media.

00:43:46.440 The media has totally abandoned this case.

00:43:48.720 And Jason Riley in the wall street journal has a great piece out this week, dated November

00:43:52.400 30, talking about how these killings made the media colorblind again.

00:43:57.020 He goes on to talk about how this is dangerous, what they are doing.

00:44:01.660 They're playing a dangerous game.

00:44:02.980 The media, the liberals, when they selectively invoke race to advance a political agenda,

00:44:08.040 like we saw them do in Kyle Rittenhouse.

00:44:10.080 And he went out and he wrote, um, okay, he's talking about what Glenn Lowry has said publicly.

00:44:16.200 And this is Jason quoting Glenn, but they're both so brilliant.

00:44:19.360 Once we go down this road and get into the habit of racializing such events, we may not be

00:44:23.760 able to contain that racialization, said Brown university's Glenn Lowry in a speech.

00:44:28.820 Soon enough, we may find ourselves in a world of instances where black thugs, this is Lowry

00:44:32.800 killing white citizens come to be seen through a racial lens as well.

00:44:37.200 This is a world.

00:44:37.800 No thoughtful person should welcome since there are great, many such instances.

00:44:42.120 And Jason finishes by saying national cohesion in a country as large and ethnically diverse

00:44:47.720 as this one has always depended on our ability to focus, not on our superficial differences,

00:44:52.780 but instead on what unites us as Americans.

00:44:56.140 This is, it is a dangerous game.

00:44:58.420 Yeah.

00:44:58.560 This is part of, I talked before about the alternative reality that the alternate universe

00:45:03.300 that the media constructs.

00:45:05.120 I've taken recently to calling it sort of a, what they are is reality curators and they

00:45:10.160 curate a version of reality, taking bits in here and there.

00:45:13.160 I mean, we talk about fake news most of the time, most of the time, they're not just outright

00:45:18.120 lying and inventing things that never happened.

00:45:20.320 I mean, that does happen or they'll, or they'll elevate things that didn't happen like with

00:45:23.420 Jesse Smollett.

00:45:24.000 But usually what they're doing, the bias is not so much in what they're reporting, but

00:45:27.880 what they don't report and how they report the things they do report.

00:45:30.560 And so the reality that they've curated for us is one where, um, all of the racial violence

00:45:36.680 that occurs in America is always white on black, even if they have to invent it out of whole

00:45:41.160 cloth and black on white violence simply doesn't happen because that's, that's the version

00:45:46.360 of reality they want us all to accept.

00:45:47.860 And we talk about this, this, uh, Daryl Brooks being, you know, they're being colorblind towards

00:45:52.780 Daryl Brooks.

00:45:53.400 They're, they're being, they're, they really are being colorblind because he's, he's apparently

00:45:56.720 transparent.

00:45:57.400 What they're really telling us is that he didn't exist and that the car is what caused

00:46:01.680 this to happen.

00:46:02.420 Yeah.

00:46:02.440 Yeah.

00:46:02.620 The car mowed down the people.

00:46:05.840 All right.

00:46:06.420 Um, apologies for the short time left, but Johnny, the walrus, why is it number one on, in several

00:46:12.080 Amazon categories and making you a very successful man?

00:46:15.180 Yeah.

00:46:15.480 Uh, Johnny, the walrus, which is available at johnnythewalrus.com right now, not on Amazon

00:46:18.680 because we sold out of Amazon in one day.

00:46:20.520 We got all the way up to number three with our Johnny, the walrus book, which I think is hilarious.

00:46:24.520 It'll be back on Amazon soon, but you can go to johnnywalrus.com and buy it.

00:46:27.080 Um, yeah, this is a, this is a book about a little boy who, you know, is very imaginative

00:46:31.860 and he pretends to be a walrus one day as part of his imaginative play.

00:46:35.060 And his, his mother learns from society and the internet and everything in the woke mob

00:46:38.820 that if you're, if your son identifies as something, then you have to take that self-identity

00:46:43.140 seriously.

00:46:43.520 And she tries through most of the book, uh, to raise him as a walrus.

00:46:47.180 And I don't want to get spoiled the ending, but she does realize at the end that, um,

00:46:51.840 that that's not going to be possible.

00:46:53.920 Uh, you got to check it out yourself.

00:46:55.900 It's brilliant.

00:46:57.120 Uh, and so is Matt.

00:46:58.480 Thanks for being here.

00:46:59.360 Good luck with it.

00:47:00.000 Let's do it again soon.

00:47:00.960 Up next, Adam Carolla.

00:47:01.820 Joining me today, Adam Carolla, host of the Adam Carolla show podcast, and he has a new

00:47:13.760 show now with, again, the daily wire.

00:47:15.800 They're just, they've got great talent that premiered last week called Adam Carolla truth

00:47:21.140 yeller.

00:47:21.820 Love that.

00:47:22.860 Adam, great to have you back.

00:47:24.120 How are you?

00:47:24.820 I'm doing well, Megan.

00:47:25.840 Thanks for having me.

00:47:27.060 Okay.

00:47:27.600 So I'm, I'm excited to talk about Alec Baldwin.

00:47:30.700 Um, you've, you're a movie star as well.

00:47:33.140 I, you're a movie, no safe spaces is the favorite thing I've seen in the movie theater in the

00:47:37.780 past five years.

00:47:39.140 Um, but you understand Hollywood and you know how things go.

00:47:41.580 So he's been under, under a lot of heat since, uh, the accidental shooting of the cinematographer

00:47:47.520 on the set of his movie rust.

00:47:49.160 This is his first, um, interview.

00:47:51.540 He gave it to George Stephanopoulos and in it, he said a couple of newsworthy things.

00:47:56.180 Um, he was very contrite.

00:47:58.260 He felt terrible about the accident.

00:48:00.220 You could see that he was upset.

00:48:02.320 Um, but he made some news in saying that he actually never fired the trigger.

00:48:09.240 He's saying he never pulled the trigger of the gun at issue.

00:48:13.800 And I wonder what you make of it.

00:48:16.640 Here he is making that claim.

00:48:18.360 Take a listen.

00:48:18.820 Your emotions are so clearly.

00:48:21.540 So right there on the surface, you felt shock, you felt anger, you felt sadness.

00:48:29.840 Do you feel guilt?

00:48:31.560 No, no.

00:48:32.460 I feel that there is, I feel that, that, that, uh, someone is responsible for what happened.

00:48:40.680 And I can't say who that is, but I know it's not me.

00:48:42.980 There are some who say you're never supposed to point a gun at anyone on a set, no matter what.

00:48:50.460 Unless the person is the cinematographer who's directing me at where to point the gun for her camera angle.

00:48:54.660 No, that's exactly what happened.

00:48:57.500 You're not worried about being charged.

00:48:59.440 I don't, I've been told by people who are in the know in terms of even inside the state that it's highly unlikely I would be charged with anything criminally.

00:49:10.360 Okay.

00:49:11.040 And that is a long sound bite.

00:49:12.260 There's another one in which he says he did not pull the trigger, but there you heard him say, he kind of admits that he did point the gun sort of at the cinematographer whose life was lost, but he says he did it at her direction.

00:49:24.420 What do you make of this whole thing?

00:49:26.820 Well, you know, first I just want to preface it by saying, you know, Alec Baldwin cried.

00:49:33.200 Some people said he's an actor.

00:49:35.240 Maybe he summoned those tears.

00:49:37.720 Kyle Rittenhouse cried.

00:49:39.540 Some people said maybe his lawyer put him up to it.

00:49:42.420 I think we should get away from that as a country.

00:49:46.280 You know, Alec Baldwin killed somebody and he was emotional about it.

00:49:50.960 Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people and he was emotional about it.

00:49:55.600 It kind of bothers me that we're accusing everyone of summoning fake emotions or putting a tack in their shoe to produce tears.

00:50:04.860 When we're all pretty, you know, Kyle Rittenhouse, Baldwin, they're human beings.

00:50:11.520 They have feelings.

00:50:12.720 They killed someone.

00:50:14.340 It brings up emotion.

00:50:15.860 So separate issue.

00:50:17.140 You know, as far as being on set and having the DP or the photographer, I'm trying to think of what her.

00:50:30.120 Cinematographer?

00:50:31.240 Helena Hutchinson.

00:50:32.140 I guess we should call them DPs, director of photography, whatever.

00:50:36.720 It made total sense when he was explaining, hold the gun, move it this way, move it, you know, there's shadows.

00:50:44.400 There's a lot of like when you film stuff, there's a lot of cheating.

00:50:48.460 There's a lot of like you're supposed to be talking to this person, but you're talking to their ear.

00:50:54.500 But on camera, it looks like you're talking to them.

00:50:58.520 So you don't know instinctively what it looks like on the camera.

00:51:02.360 So there is a lot of directing of move more this way, get the light, hold it down, even if it doesn't look like it's pointing the right direction.

00:51:11.760 So from what I know of this story and Alex, a friend of mine, and, you know, he's a volatile guy and he's a talented guy.

00:51:23.500 He's a million things.

00:51:25.780 He's definitely not someone who would want to hurt somebody.

00:51:30.380 It sounds to me like they had a very old pistol.

00:51:33.800 It sounds to me like he was moving it around.

00:51:36.800 And it sounds like to me like he pulled the hammer back on the pistol.

00:51:40.700 That's what it sounds to me like he let the hammer go and it fired the bullet.

00:51:46.040 That's from what I know so far.

00:51:48.800 That's what this sounds like to me.

00:51:51.140 That's what he said.

00:51:52.260 I am not a gun expert.

00:51:53.960 What I hear from the gun experts I listen to on television over the past 24 hours suggests that that may.

00:52:01.460 Well, I heard one guy say it's remotely possible for that to happen, but highly unlikely.

00:52:07.000 There was a guy on GB Good Morning Britain, Piers Morgan's old program.

00:52:14.420 He did a kind of decent demonstration that I'll play for you challenging that that this gun could be fired off without a squeezing of the trigger.

00:52:23.020 But listen to this.

00:52:23.980 This is a replica of the same gun that he used.

00:52:30.280 And to work this gun, you have to perform two deliberate acts.

00:52:34.460 First, you have to pull the hammer back.

00:52:36.720 It makes three distinct clicks while you do that.

00:52:39.580 And then to get it to fire, you have to press the trigger.

00:52:43.040 However, you don't necessarily have to do it in that order.

00:52:47.240 On these guns from the 1800s, if you depress the trigger and then pull the hammer back and release it, you can still get the gun to fire.

00:52:57.560 However, in no circumstance, when you have the hammer cocked, will the gun fire without the trigger being depressed?

00:53:05.820 So there's definitely two deliberate acts that were required there.

00:53:10.180 He had to cock the gun and he had to press the trigger.

00:53:12.940 And he may taste that he didn't pull the trigger out.

00:53:15.900 If he had his finger on the trigger, if he had his finger on the trigger here and he's pressing it, he may not be aware that he's pressed the trigger.

00:53:23.840 Then he pulls the hammer back.

00:53:25.300 Right.

00:53:25.700 And then he releases it and then the gun fires.

00:53:28.760 Kind of interesting because I have to tell you from a legal standpoint, I see and I did believe the tears when I saw him.

00:53:34.380 But I also think there's there's some legal maneuvering going on there because the less pointing of the gun and pulling of the trigger he did, the better position he's in because he is being looked at.

00:53:44.440 The sheriffs have not ruled out criminal charges against him, sheriff and his deputies.

00:53:49.040 And you're not supposed to point a gun at somebody on a set.

00:53:52.260 And the scene didn't call for pulling the trigger either.

00:53:55.220 So, you know, let's be real.

00:53:57.220 He kind of feel I think he feels like he has to say he didn't do it.

00:54:00.500 You know, also through that demonstration, which was interesting, it's possible at least it could be argued in his defense that the trigger was pulled in before it was handed to him, in which case, if he pulled the hammer back and let it go, it would fire the gun.

00:54:21.280 At least that's what I got.

00:54:22.500 You have to keep your finger on the trigger pulled like I don't know this gun, but like don't once you release your finger off of the trigger, it releases.

00:54:30.020 It doesn't stay pulled.

00:54:31.320 I think in that demonstration, they're saying if you pull the trigger first and then cock the hammer.

00:54:37.200 You have to hold it.

00:54:38.200 I said if you held it.

00:54:39.680 But he's saying if you if you pulled the trigger and you held it and you held your finger back.

00:54:43.320 Like, I'm sorry, it's very small on my screen, so I can't have the size of a postage stamp, so I can't see it.

00:54:50.720 In any event, look, neither one of us is a gun expert.

00:54:52.920 So I mean, I'm sure the gun experts out there are rolling their eyes saying, shut the hell up.

00:54:56.160 Please don't touch us.

00:54:57.800 But to me, you you understand, you know, Alec and, you know, the movie business and I know the law.

00:55:02.780 And what I see is somebody trying to lay the foundation for an escape.

00:55:06.260 Yeah. Well, listen, I look, I don't you know, I think there's a lot of speculation that, you know, he's trying to get ahead of this.

00:55:14.980 He's trying to put a narrative out.

00:55:17.280 He wants to get a narrative.

00:55:18.480 He's talked to his lawyers, so on and so forth.

00:55:23.140 Yeah, that that's how it works.

00:55:26.020 Like, I you know, it it doesn't mean he's lying per se, but it means he does want to get out in front of this.

00:55:34.180 And, you know, when people go like, oh, he's talked to his lawyers, he's worked this out.

00:55:40.220 I'm sure he has talked to his lawyers.

00:55:42.380 I'm sure he has worked it out like that.

00:55:44.540 That is kind of how we how we roll.

00:55:47.960 And, you know, if this happened to your husband or to your son or my son, I would do it the same way or I would take the advice of the lawyers.

00:55:59.920 It doesn't you know, I think sometimes we do this thing where it's sort of like, oh, he won't take the stand in his own defense.

00:56:08.040 He must be guilty.

00:56:09.140 Like, well, not necessarily.

00:56:10.920 Sometimes people just do what their lawyers tell them to do.

00:56:14.200 I feel like his lawyers probably told him to shut up.

00:56:16.400 No, you don't need it.

00:56:17.060 You don't need to get out there.

00:56:18.240 You're not going to charge you.

00:56:19.520 I got to tell you, I'm doing a podcast with Mark Garavos in about an hour.

00:56:24.780 And all he ever does is marvel at these guys doing interviews and goes, why won't they just shut up?

00:56:32.020 Yes, of course.

00:56:32.680 That's what the lawyer always wants you to do.

00:56:34.420 Just be quiet.

00:56:35.680 Say nothing more.

00:56:37.740 I don't know.

00:56:38.140 We'll see.

00:56:38.520 He also he's fighting a few battles, right, because he's got a legal battle, though.

00:56:41.440 I do think it's unlikely he gets criminally charged.

00:56:44.240 He's going to get sued, 100 percent going to get sued, his production company.

00:56:48.680 But I don't think he's going to get charged.

00:56:50.660 And I do believe if somebody intentionally mess with his ammo, that's that's a different story.

00:56:54.440 But to me, it seems like this is a series of so far tragic accidents.

00:56:58.820 You know, people carelessness.

00:57:00.720 I don't know that we're in even criminal territory.

00:57:03.480 I think it's exacerbated by a lot of other blowhard actors who do the I always check the gun.

00:57:11.060 George Clooney, the gun.

00:57:12.980 It's like I bet I could find 100 examples of you on set with all the action movies you've

00:57:18.920 made while you're talking on your cell phone and someone just hands you a gun and you go,

00:57:23.000 yeah, OK, but they do this sanctimonious, holier than that.

00:57:27.760 So, you know, I get all right.

00:57:28.900 Two points I want to make on that.

00:57:29.900 Number one, that's George Clooney.

00:57:31.000 He came out.

00:57:31.640 He's on tape on this podcast saying I've always checked the gun every time anybody just

00:57:35.860 gives me a gun on set.

00:57:36.920 I check it.

00:57:37.360 I open it up.

00:57:38.180 So we don't know what happened.

00:57:39.580 What we know is that that gun had dummy rounds in it and live bullets, a mixture that never

00:57:45.120 should have been in there.

00:57:46.480 How did it get in there?

00:57:48.020 We don't know.

00:57:49.320 But the thing about dummy rounds is they're made to look exactly like real bullets.

00:57:53.420 That's why they're in the gun in a Colt 45 like they were using there.

00:57:57.160 There you can see the bullets.

00:57:58.680 So the whole purpose of a dummy is to look exactly like a real bullet.

00:58:01.680 And so that's why you need somebody like an armorer.

00:58:03.840 Or in this case, they had a guy named Seth Kenny who was overseeing the ammo.

00:58:06.640 Apparently, those are the people who should be able to understand and try to understand

00:58:10.320 the difference between a dummy round.

00:58:11.480 But you're going to tell me George Clooney in his two seconds, he looks at his bullets

00:58:14.440 can tell the difference between a dummy round and a live round if it's already made it past

00:58:17.900 an armorer and the other guy who's supposed to and the, you know, the ammo bull bullshit.

00:58:22.920 Listen, I guarantee if you talk to someone who worked as the gun wrangler on Out of Sight from 1997,

00:58:31.800 he'd probably tell you the story about handing him a 9mm 15 times.

00:58:36.680 And by the way, if they hand you a 9mm, what do you do?

00:58:39.360 You pull the clip out, you inspect it.

00:58:41.780 I mean, he's not a green marae, you know.

00:58:44.480 Anyway, I'm just saying, I don't like it when people do, it's kind of reflective glory.

00:58:51.920 Like they go, I never, I would always, I, you know, we always do this thing.

00:58:56.120 But, you know, it kind of, it's kind of funny.

00:58:59.320 I just thought of it.

00:59:00.300 But, you know, when Baldwin got into all that trouble for calling his daughter a little piggy.

00:59:05.840 Thoughtless little pig.

00:59:07.420 Remember that?

00:59:08.080 And then all the parents went, like, I would never, you know, I'd love to show a two-hour montage of you screaming at your kids.

00:59:17.180 He does actually have a good relationship with her now.

00:59:20.380 He does.

00:59:21.240 I did the roast.

00:59:22.720 I did the Comedy Central roast and I was with him and his daughter and they do have a good relationship.

00:59:28.700 So much, so much fodder for you there, then and now.

00:59:31.900 I just want to make one other point, though.

00:59:33.300 So I think it was, like, the assistant director, one of the parties involved on that set came forward and said, no, he definitely didn't pull the trigger I saw.

00:59:42.580 And I was like, that is the biggest bullshit of them all.

00:59:45.520 Like, so you, in the moment, had your very eyes, not knowing a tragedy was about to unfold, on Alec Baldwin's finger to make sure that as he pulled the gun, you wanted to see if there was any squeezing or non-squeezing, which wasn't even an issue at the time until after the accident.

01:00:04.340 Bull, just be quiet.

01:00:05.860 Don't help me with fake lies.

01:00:07.340 Okay?

01:00:07.800 Let, it's like, if I were Alec, let me handle the story.

01:00:11.000 I'm the actor.

01:00:12.540 Anyway, we continue to watch it.

01:00:14.160 I totally agree, because if you were holding a gun and your finger was outside of the guard that went around the trigger, that thing's less than an eighth of an inch thick, or it's probably an eighth of an inch thick.

01:00:26.000 So you couldn't really tell whether someone's finger was inside of it or outside of it anyway.

01:00:31.640 Yeah.

01:00:32.000 I mean, maybe they'll have some videotape that'll prove us all wrong, but I'm sure it's one of the many things the sheriff's looking at.

01:00:36.500 Okay, so speaking of crime, there's a crime wave underway in your beautiful home state of California, and now it's changed.

01:00:46.180 Well, I mean, the other stuff is still happening, too.

01:00:48.000 But now there is, like, a rash of, they call them smash-and-grab robberies.

01:00:54.180 And what's happening, just to give you a couple of examples.

01:00:56.800 Last week in San Fran, a Nordstrom department store in the Bay Area was targeted by 80 thieves and 10 cars in what local police are calling a flash mob-style robbery.

01:01:06.940 This is all the rage.

01:01:08.340 Flash mob robberies.

01:01:09.960 So they pulled up, again, 10 cars and 80 thieves.

01:01:13.720 You know, the store clerk doesn't stand a chance.

01:01:16.640 They used the cars to block the front of the store, to block any parking.

01:01:19.500 They ran inside with crowbars, smashed display cases, loaded up on the merchandise, took less than one minute.

01:01:25.380 Similar mob stormed the nearby Louis Vuitton last weekend in San Francisco's Union Square.

01:01:31.300 An Apple store in Northern California targeted by four suspects.

01:01:34.400 They stole $20,000 worth of merchandise.

01:01:37.000 Louis Vuitton in Chicago.

01:01:37.900 What's with Louis Vuitton?

01:01:38.660 Chicago hit by 14 looters at the same time.

01:01:42.120 $120,000 in merchandise.

01:01:43.820 CEO of Best Buy said he's seeing the same thing in his stores.

01:01:48.340 And on and on it goes.

01:01:49.540 This is supposedly, according to law enforcement, believed to be part of sophisticated criminal networks that recruit mainly young people to steal merchandise in stores and then sell it online.

01:01:59.900 I guess that explains the Louis Vuitton.

01:02:01.660 Don't buy your Louis Vuitton online.

01:02:04.100 But there's a reason it's happening in particular in San Francisco.

01:02:07.920 As they take the break off of law enforcement and lower the threshold that's even considered a crime for shoplifting there.

01:02:18.860 Well, you know, there's a I think there's a fundamental problem to the democratic approach to life, society and the sort of ills of society.

01:02:34.580 That it's a theme.

01:02:35.580 It's not just as it pertains to crime or school test scores or taxes.

01:02:45.120 They they don't really understand, you know, unintended consequences.

01:02:52.120 They they have a bizarre approach to problem solving and they say, like, OK, what's going on?

01:03:00.780 We have too many young black men in prison.

01:03:03.660 It's it's disproportionate with the with the populace of the young black community.

01:03:08.920 They go, how do we solve this problem?

01:03:11.220 And they go, well, stop locking up young black men and then it'll solve the problem, which is sort of like their approach to everything.

01:03:19.620 Like, you know, have raised taxes on corporations so we can have more money.

01:03:24.720 Well, then they go offshore.

01:03:27.520 There's problems in school testing.

01:03:29.620 Some of these groups are not passing standardized testing, lower the test threshold or get rid of the test altogether.

01:03:38.360 This is essentially like saying you're morbidly obese and someone says, well, then just get a new scale and make sure it's 50 pounds lighter.

01:03:49.140 Like, oh, OK.

01:03:51.200 Or, you know, your car can only go 40 miles an hour.

01:03:55.140 We'll then break the glass on the speedometer and turn the needle up to 80 miles an hour.

01:04:00.540 Like this is how the Democrats approach problems.

01:04:04.620 Everything they approach is this sort of reverse engineered thing.

01:04:09.240 And it never works.

01:04:10.460 Like what?

01:04:11.400 You know, cops.

01:04:12.400 What are they doing?

01:04:13.320 They're arresting too many young black men.

01:04:15.700 We'll get rid of the cops.

01:04:18.220 Get rid of the tests.

01:04:19.780 Get rid of everything.

01:04:20.840 And then they wait around and eight months goes by and it becomes chaos.

01:04:26.760 It's their approach to crime.

01:04:28.280 It's their approach to homelessness.

01:04:29.960 It's their approach to everything.

01:04:32.240 And then they step back and they go, wow, this is a shit show.

01:04:36.180 And it's like, of course it is.

01:04:37.840 Because you got rid of incarceration.

01:04:40.640 You got rid of cops.

01:04:41.580 You got rid of the DAs who put these people behind bars.

01:04:45.240 You turned things that were formerly crimes into non-crimes.

01:04:49.860 And what did you think was going to happen?

01:04:53.300 And by the way, aren't you people always talking about root causes?

01:04:57.500 You sent Kamala Harris down to Guadalajara to figure out what the root causes of immigration.

01:05:04.340 You want to get to the root causes of crime?

01:05:06.560 How come you never discussed that?

01:05:08.560 You discuss what happens after the crime.

01:05:12.520 You never, you never, no one ever asked the question, where are all these kids coming from?

01:05:16.540 How come they're so, how come they're so recruitable?

01:05:21.480 How can you round up 80 kids on a day's notice to come in and loot a store?

01:05:28.400 Why are those kids available?

01:05:30.160 Where are their parents?

01:05:31.060 Where's their dad?

01:05:31.860 How come they're not in school?

01:05:32.940 What's going on?

01:05:34.700 Yeah, no, you're 100% right.

01:05:36.020 This is actually, I'd mentioned this piece by Jason Riley in the Wall Street Journal on November 30th

01:05:40.700 called Waukesha Killings Make the Media Colorblind Again.

01:05:43.200 And this is what he was raising all of this to just saying, like, let's let's get after it.

01:05:48.840 You want to get after it.

01:05:49.720 You want to talk about problems in the criminal justice system and so on.

01:05:53.220 Let's let's be honest about, you know, what actually causes it.

01:05:56.940 And Jason, as always, does such a good job, you know, talking about what they are and how we need to talk about them and so on.

01:06:03.320 And by the way, if you haven't read his book, please stop helping us.

01:06:06.760 You should.

01:06:12.540 So Omicron is dominating the news.

01:06:15.940 The freakout remains everywhere.

01:06:18.960 But nobody's getting it as bad just in COVID in general as Australia.

01:06:24.220 I mean, it's crazy what's happening there.

01:06:27.060 We haven't done enough coverage on what's happening in Australia.

01:06:29.300 But the latest report and this is this again is Daily Wire.

01:06:32.500 My friends over there have been working hard.

01:06:34.620 They spoke with these three teenagers who escaped this like camp.

01:06:40.880 You know, they're putting people who are COVID positive or suspected of being COVID positive in detainment centers surrounded by barbed wire.

01:06:51.140 Adam, this is insane.

01:06:53.060 This particular one was called Howard Detainment Camp.

01:06:55.880 It's got 2000 people in it.

01:06:57.260 A woman named Haley Hodgson, who does not even have COVID.

01:07:01.320 She was tested.

01:07:02.500 I think she said three times.

01:07:05.000 All three times are negative.

01:07:06.680 Still, she had to stay there because she was a close contact of somebody who had it.

01:07:10.740 And she and two other guys made a run for it, I guess.

01:07:14.040 And the cops, the cops found her.

01:07:16.060 They picked her up.

01:07:16.980 She said they took me away in a golf cart.

01:07:18.900 They're wearing hazmat suits.

01:07:20.940 You know, like she's got leprosy.

01:07:22.480 And they don't want to get anywhere near her germs and take her to this facility for 14 days.

01:07:29.060 And in this facility, you get a thirty five hundred dollar fine if you don't wear a mask.

01:07:34.880 I mean, that's here's a soundbite.

01:07:36.940 Again, this is number eight of what's happening there.

01:07:39.540 Being told the trio scaled the fence in the early hours of this morning, police receiving reports around 4.40 a.m.

01:07:47.660 Now, major police checkpoints have been set up around Howard Springs for the past several hours.

01:07:52.440 As you can see in these pictures, they've been conducting thorough searches in car boots, checking vehicle registrations, cars and buses alike.

01:08:00.480 I mean, just when you think we have it bad, good gracious, can you believe it's so bizarre?

01:08:08.640 It's sad.

01:08:09.740 You know, the saddest part of this chapter, you know, I live in California.

01:08:14.500 We have Gavin Newsom.

01:08:16.760 He's declared another emergency and he's going to keep his power going.

01:08:21.120 The saddest part is how pliable most people are and how pathetic most people are.

01:08:27.120 I've been yelling about this from the mountaintops for 18 months and everyone's just been yelling at me to shut up.

01:08:35.140 You know, I was yelling at the school teachers unions for closing the schools down.

01:08:39.580 I was yelling about we closed the beaches.

01:08:42.680 We bulldozed sand over the beach volleyball courts.

01:08:48.100 We welded bars over basketball hoops and parks.

01:08:53.080 We're insane.

01:08:54.680 And this, to me, has nothing to do with COVID.

01:08:59.260 It has everything to do with power and or defying them.

01:09:03.200 They want power.

01:09:05.440 They want to apply their power.

01:09:07.160 And when you defy them, you know, I grew up with a guy named LaPagia.

01:09:12.520 He opened a restaurant called Tin Horn Flats in Burbank.

01:09:16.820 They moved all their dining outdoors.

01:09:19.760 At some point after being told what to do and all the protocols and everything, they said no more outdoor dining.

01:09:29.320 The guy who owned the restaurant said, give me some proof there's some outdoor spread.

01:09:34.540 There is no spread outdoors.

01:09:36.560 They said, sorry, no outdoor dining.

01:09:38.480 He said, you know what?

01:09:39.300 I've had enough.

01:09:40.020 We're going to stay open.

01:09:40.920 I went there with my son to go eat just to support them.

01:09:45.000 Two days later, the city came in.

01:09:47.300 They built a fence around the place.

01:09:49.100 They closed it up.

01:09:50.060 They boarded it up.

01:09:51.420 They're out of business.

01:09:52.400 And there's literally an iron fence going all the way around this restaurant.

01:09:57.580 And here's the thing.

01:09:59.580 That's fine with the people who live in Burbank.

01:10:02.260 That's the scary part to me.

01:10:04.220 It's fine for them to have the government shut down businesses in Australia, essentially create camps, internment camps for people who defy the government.

01:10:15.880 It's insane.

01:10:16.860 But the insane part isn't the government.

01:10:18.980 The government is doing what we let them get away with.

01:10:22.420 Gavin Newsom wants power.

01:10:24.680 He wants everyone under their thumb.

01:10:26.300 My son is in the 10th grade.

01:10:28.560 He was telling me the other day when he wants a sip of water inside class, the teacher tells him to go outside.

01:10:35.920 He has to go stand outside to take a sip of water because he has to pull his mask down.

01:10:41.260 It's insanity.

01:10:42.880 All they want is power.

01:10:44.320 But really, it's about the people.

01:10:46.300 What are you idiots doing?

01:10:47.840 Why are you going along with this?

01:10:49.560 Why are you so malleable?

01:10:51.040 What country do you live in?

01:10:52.940 And what the hell happened to everybody, especially in California?

01:10:57.280 You know what?

01:10:57.820 And honestly, it's bad here, too.

01:10:59.480 And blue states, you know, I'm in a blue state now.

01:11:01.480 I'm in Connecticut.

01:11:02.000 My eight year old was telling me he was at school and he said, Mommy, you know, in gym class that we run around and we play and we have to keep our masks on.

01:11:09.740 He said the other day, everyone was really sweating.

01:11:11.720 They had wet masks.

01:11:13.640 And the gym teacher said, if you need to take your mask down, you can go over to the corner.

01:11:17.540 And he said, just like this, pull it down up, down up so you can get a fresh breath.

01:11:22.620 Like that's science.

01:11:24.500 Right.

01:11:24.840 Like that's science.

01:11:26.360 Right.

01:11:26.680 Like same with the airplane.

01:11:28.220 You know, keep the mask up.

01:11:29.700 Keep the mask up.

01:11:30.520 Keep the mask up.

01:11:31.560 Here's a box of hummus.

01:11:33.400 Go ahead and take it down for 45 minutes.

01:11:35.500 Then right back up.

01:11:37.000 Why are people?

01:11:37.900 Here's the question.

01:11:39.000 What's wrong with everybody?

01:11:40.880 I keep telling everyone all the time.

01:11:42.320 Don't do it.

01:11:43.220 Don't wear the mask.

01:11:44.300 Everyone drop the mask.

01:11:45.600 You know what I mean?

01:11:46.120 Like there's nothing we can do about flash mobs and looters because there's 80 of them doing it at once.

01:11:52.280 Well, what if a whole state just did it at once?

01:11:54.980 We're done with the mask.

01:11:55.960 Hey, California, we're done with the mask.

01:11:57.940 Hey, kids, don't wear it at school.

01:12:00.580 Good luck enforcing it.

01:12:02.740 I don't get what's wrong with everyone.

01:12:04.560 Let's talk that through.

01:12:06.200 I would love to do that.

01:12:07.340 I would love to do that.

01:12:09.020 But the problem is where we need to do it is the blue states.

01:12:11.800 And most of the populace in the blue states is pro all these crazy measures.

01:12:15.900 So it boils down to a small minority that would have to be willing to defy the rules.

01:12:20.000 And realistically, if I told my son, don't put that mask on, do not wear that mask.

01:12:24.400 He'd be kicked out.

01:12:25.500 They'd give him, you know, demerits, whatever they call him.

01:12:27.960 I'd get called.

01:12:28.700 I have to go pick him up.

01:12:29.980 They wouldn't let him show up.

01:12:31.020 And then I'd have to homeschool him, which I don't want to do.

01:12:33.260 That would end poorly for both of us.

01:12:35.240 It's same thing for me on the airplane.

01:12:36.440 I'm like, screw you, Pete Buttigieg, you and your stupid ass policies.

01:12:41.340 I'm going to keep this mask on forever.

01:12:43.040 And by the way, we all are because they just extended that on TSA because of Omicron, which

01:12:47.740 we don't have any idea does anything yet.

01:12:49.980 But now we're stuck.

01:12:51.280 And Biden's, you know, he's releasing yesterday.

01:12:53.280 Don't worry.

01:12:53.780 I'm on it.

01:12:55.000 Everybody's getting a booster now.

01:12:56.360 And already they're suggesting you're not fully vaccinated unless you have your double

01:13:00.840 vax plus a booster.

01:13:02.820 Vaccinate your five year olds.

01:13:04.260 We may expand it down to babies.

01:13:07.000 Everybody should be wearing a mask.

01:13:08.740 And for an extended period of time now, we're extending those mask policy.

01:13:11.760 I mean, like my head was spinning.

01:13:14.540 They're tripling down on all the policies, all the mandates.

01:13:18.000 So the uprising so far, it's it's not coming.

01:13:22.420 And I don't know how it would work.

01:13:24.840 Well, no, you're right.

01:13:26.120 All the idiots in California voted for Gavin Newsom.

01:13:30.300 And they can't just admit they made a mistake.

01:13:32.540 You know, we had our power out.

01:13:35.660 All of Thanksgiving.

01:13:36.740 So all of Thanksgiving, where I live and my sister's house, where she lives, where I was

01:13:42.740 going for Thanksgiving, it's been out for since Wednesday night, right?

01:13:47.940 It went out the wee hours of Wednesday was gone.

01:13:50.300 OK, here's my point.

01:13:52.200 When Larry Elder was running against Gavin Newsom in the recall, Larry Elder was talking about

01:14:00.920 the grid, the power system, the old antiquated system.

01:14:04.840 They shut the power off.

01:14:06.740 It didn't fail.

01:14:08.080 They shut it off because they were scared another fire was going to begin on Thanksgiving.

01:14:13.260 The whole point is this.

01:14:14.880 One guy is talking about the power grid.

01:14:17.880 The other guy and the L.A. Times are busy calling Larry Elder the blackface of white racism.

01:14:27.560 So listen, voters of California, you have an imbecile who gas is six bucks a gallon.

01:14:33.420 The power grid sucks.

01:14:34.620 The schools are failing.

01:14:35.660 But he's going to talk about racism nonstop and get your vote.

01:14:40.540 What year is it?

01:14:42.040 Stop being an idiot.

01:14:43.460 It's it's insane that they can pull this shit off every year.

01:14:48.000 Just talk.

01:14:48.700 By the way, you're running against a middle aged black man and that and you're still going

01:14:53.800 with the racism.

01:14:55.500 Now, as far as the kids go, here's my theory with all the COVID.

01:15:01.460 The very and I talked to Dr.

01:15:02.960 Drew about this once because he said, Adam, you're a pattern, you're a pattern related person.

01:15:08.740 You follow patterns.

01:15:09.780 At the very beginning of COVID, all I was hearing is, you know, man dies in Covina, a woman dies

01:15:17.920 in Arlita.

01:15:18.920 And I wasn't hearing any ages.

01:15:21.760 And I always was used to hearing ages on the news when a woman died in a car crash.

01:15:27.720 She was a 39 year old woman from Buena Park, you know.

01:15:30.680 And all of a sudden I was hearing no ages.

01:15:34.280 So I got a little suspicious and I thought maybe this is about old people dying, not young

01:15:40.200 people dying.

01:15:41.140 But all their focus is on kids and kids aren't dying of COVID.

01:15:47.840 Statistically, it's not even it's not even chartable how many kids have died of COVID.

01:15:54.080 It's it's that small a problem with kids.

01:15:56.840 But why all the focus on kids?

01:15:58.620 Why CNN always talking about the kids, the kids, the kids, they use the kids to get to

01:16:03.160 the mothers.

01:16:04.300 Once the mothers get scared, then they get to control you.

01:16:07.200 So we don't need the kids, but we need the kids as a conduit to get to the moms.

01:16:11.340 Once we scare the moms, then we control the household.

01:16:14.760 That's why they're focusing on the kids.

01:16:17.360 It's so goddamn sad and it's pathetic.

01:16:21.720 And the reason they're trying to get to the kids is also they want to crate train them.

01:16:26.580 This is something I was thinking about, like, you can't crate train a middle aged dog.

01:16:32.060 You've got to crate train a puppy.

01:16:34.300 Get that dog young, get it the crate and get it coached up.

01:16:38.540 And then you'll have that dog crate train.

01:16:41.140 That's what we're doing with the kids in the mass in the back.

01:16:44.420 There's nothing going on at schools.

01:16:46.340 There's nothing going on on airplanes.

01:16:48.520 There's nothing going on with kids.

01:16:50.320 Why all the folk is and how come when you watch CNN and they have the doctors on there,

01:16:56.020 they have the lady that's kind of trying to scare the crap out of everyone all the time.

01:17:00.000 And they have Sanjay Gupta, who never asks a real question, or Anderson Cooper,

01:17:05.140 who never asks a real question.

01:17:07.120 Why aren't they when she's talking about protect the kids?

01:17:09.400 We've got to get the kids vaccinated.

01:17:10.940 Why doesn't somebody raise their hand and go, what's going on with the kids?

01:17:14.360 Yeah.

01:17:14.660 Last to check, it doesn't harm kids.

01:17:16.260 More kids died of pneumonia last year than died of COVID.

01:17:20.060 We don't make them have mandatory vaccines for the flu.

01:17:23.200 And more kids died of the flu last year.

01:17:24.820 So you could go on and on.

01:17:26.340 No one's decided to question that.

01:17:28.180 And scarily, the administration is really zeroing in on the children now

01:17:31.620 in a way that that feels really uncomfortable.

01:17:36.400 The hypocrisy is maddening, right?

01:17:38.920 Like we you mentioned Gavin Newsom in California, in New York.

01:17:42.180 We've got this Kathy Hochul, Hochul, who replaced our, you know, disgraced Andrew Cuomo.

01:17:47.840 She comes in there now.

01:17:49.460 She she's got a mandatory mask policy, right?

01:17:53.100 So everybody's got to wear them.

01:17:54.480 All the kids have got to wear them all over the state, right?

01:17:56.480 She doesn't care.

01:17:57.160 She spends her whole day mask free.

01:17:58.740 But the kids have got to wear them.

01:18:00.020 The kids in New York City, by the way, are still eating lunch outside six feet apart from

01:18:03.560 one another while masked.

01:18:05.140 They can pull their mask down in between bites.

01:18:06.820 It's ridiculous.

01:18:08.580 She's just fine with that.

01:18:09.820 New York City mayor is just fine with that.

01:18:11.400 But here's what she really doesn't want.

01:18:13.280 She doesn't she doesn't want to offend anybody by calling a Christmas tree a Christmas tree.

01:18:20.200 She doesn't give a shit that your kid is sitting outside in thirty nine degree weather or wearing

01:18:24.700 a mask over their face all day, nine hours while she's mask free everywhere she goes.

01:18:30.060 What she really wants to avoid doing is upsetting people by referring to a large evergreen with

01:18:35.680 ornaments on it that's going to wind up in rock center and millions of people from around

01:18:39.900 the world are going to come see it and identify it as a Christmas tree.

01:18:44.000 She doesn't want to label it as such.

01:18:45.640 She sent out a tweet actually celebrating the tree coming down on its way to rock center,

01:18:50.380 saying celebrating the fact that her husband, quote, the first gentleman selected the holiday

01:18:55.440 tree.

01:18:56.680 Yay for the holiday.

01:18:58.420 I mean, this is taking happy holidays to a whole new level.

01:19:02.540 It's irritating.

01:19:04.000 It's irritating.

01:19:04.980 These people are in power.

01:19:07.560 And who's it for?

01:19:09.800 Like, to what end?

01:19:11.040 Like, oh, we're going to take down a statue of Jefferson.

01:19:14.840 OK, why?

01:19:17.080 What's next?

01:19:17.740 I mean, we're going to look at the menorah and be like, it's a holiday candle holder.

01:19:21.080 Like, what's so offensive about the word Christmas?

01:19:24.940 Megan, please understand this.

01:19:27.620 And your audience should understand this, because I've been saying this for 15 years.

01:19:34.480 It's called the progressive movement.

01:19:37.480 It has the word progress and move in the title.

01:19:42.660 What?

01:19:43.520 And everyone like you, like me, goes to what end?

01:19:46.540 What's next?

01:19:47.240 What's next?

01:19:47.660 The answer is everything is next.

01:19:50.060 There is no pumping of the brake.

01:19:51.980 I mean, the Babylon Bee can't even write headlines anymore because it seems plausible.

01:19:58.020 There is no stopping.

01:20:00.180 That's the point.

01:20:01.160 I think the point that folks like you and I and other sort of sane or rational people

01:20:07.320 had a thought, our thought was sort of like, it's like dealing with terrorists.

01:20:11.660 Like, OK, just show them some respect.

01:20:14.980 Give them their own land.

01:20:16.600 They'll go away.

01:20:17.540 Like, they must want something.

01:20:18.960 They don't want something other than what's next.

01:20:22.840 Is there any example of them pumping the brakes?

01:20:26.240 You know, first thing is, like, just look at statues in the last two years.

01:20:30.660 They go, look, we want to get rid of some of these Civil War generals that were on the

01:20:34.060 wrong side of history.

01:20:35.160 And you go, I don't see why you need to do that.

01:20:38.480 But all right, I guess I guess it's sensible or something.

01:20:41.920 And you go, fine, let them take down the statue and then we can get on with our lives.

01:20:47.220 And then at some point they go, yeah, I want to get rid of Lewis and Clark.

01:20:51.420 And you go, what?

01:20:52.700 And I go, yeah, they had an Indian.

01:20:55.360 Oh, OK, let them do that.

01:20:58.000 Then they want to get rid of a boulder in Wisconsin because it's racist.

01:21:02.140 Now they want to get rid of Jefferson.

01:21:03.960 Do you guys understand what they're doing?

01:21:05.920 They don't.

01:21:06.300 It's not that they want to get rid of statues.

01:21:08.420 They want to get rid of everything that existed before they were born.

01:21:12.760 That's the plan.

01:21:13.880 They're not offended by any of this stuff.

01:21:16.000 They're just manipulating you.

01:21:17.660 They're just curious to see how far they can bend you.

01:21:20.960 And you go along with it because you think it's about the statue or it's about the issue.

01:21:27.380 It's not.

01:21:28.200 It's just about getting it's like wear a mask outside.

01:21:31.860 Well, that doesn't do anything.

01:21:33.520 Yeah, I know.

01:21:34.360 But I told you to do it.

01:21:35.600 Like, I want to see how far I can manipulate you.

01:21:38.340 That's what we're doing.

01:21:39.940 They don't admit it, but that's what they're doing.

01:21:43.060 It's so true.

01:21:43.940 It is about control, like forced speech and forced silence that they will control, whether

01:21:50.380 it's the head of Twitter, Facebook, the head of the country, the head of your state, your

01:21:55.600 city, your school board.

01:21:57.460 We're seeing it up and down.

01:21:58.840 And I agree with you.

01:21:59.540 The answer.

01:22:00.500 The answer is to fight.

01:22:01.520 Speaking about our leaders, though, I've got to ask you about this because to me, it seems

01:22:05.680 like, you know, there was a joke.

01:22:07.900 God, who's who did this joke?

01:22:10.780 It was about John McCain when he was running.

01:22:13.160 And the thing on him was he's too old.

01:22:14.800 You know, he's too old to run.

01:22:15.880 And one of this forgiveness for forgiveness to the comedian.

01:22:20.400 I'm begging for it from the comedian who said this, but they said John McCain really is

01:22:23.700 a maverick.

01:22:24.200 Like, yeah, he's old and they criticize him for being old.

01:22:28.700 And what does he do?

01:22:29.860 He gets older.

01:22:32.260 And that that is what's happening with Joe Biden.

01:22:36.560 And as it turns out, with Nancy Pelosi, she's 81.

01:22:40.180 He's now 79.

01:22:41.420 And man, oh, man, is it showing.

01:22:46.500 Let's start with her.

01:22:48.020 You tell me whether you can figure out what in God's name she's talking about in this sound

01:22:53.700 bite.

01:22:54.060 OK, I'm just going to let it play.

01:22:55.840 Take a listen.

01:22:56.920 Let me know.

01:22:59.440 House, it's the McGovern bill.

01:23:01.020 It's a stronger bill than the the it is.

01:23:05.000 It's a bill that we could have freestanding or a bill that is in the EGLE Act that is part

01:23:09.640 of the the Mr. Foreign Affairs Committee, Mr. Kendrick Meeks.

01:23:18.380 No, Gregory Meeks.

01:23:21.420 Yeah, Kendrick.

01:23:23.080 We're all we're all very sad about losing Carrie Meek this this week.

01:23:28.060 So I referenced her son.

01:23:29.800 But the chairman Meeks bill in the in the house.

01:23:35.160 So we will have that.

01:23:36.180 But you see, in a defense and a bill, whether it's in the week, whatever that thing's called

01:23:43.060 that they have in the Senate or in a DOD bill, the Senate does not have the right to have

01:23:49.260 a revenue or an appropriations matter.

01:23:53.840 You got it.

01:23:55.780 Oh, yeah.

01:23:57.000 Clear as a bell.

01:23:57.760 Well, I hope there was a sign language interpreter that was just out of the camera range that

01:24:04.220 was putting her thumb up her ass at a certain point, just going, I don't know.

01:24:11.720 It's sad to me.

01:24:12.800 There was another moment with Biden.

01:24:14.740 I don't know what was happening, but it was was it at the Christmas tree lighting?

01:24:19.040 He was he was late.

01:24:20.480 OK, to the Christmas tree lighting.

01:24:22.140 This is listen to this.

01:24:23.160 Watch this.

01:24:23.700 This is soundbite 13.

01:24:25.420 I believe it's holiday.

01:24:26.860 It is my tremendous honor to welcome our literal host, the actual host for this very American

01:24:34.240 celebration, President Biden and First Lady, Dr. Jill Biden.

01:24:39.720 And now it's my tremendous honor to welcome our real hosts, our literal hosts for this

01:24:58.580 very American celebration, President Biden and First Lady, Dr. Jill Biden.

01:25:09.720 We don't he missed his his entry cue.

01:25:20.300 Dr. Jill Biden apparently missed it, too.

01:25:23.180 It was the national tree lighting down in, I guess, D.C.

01:25:25.200 By the way, the forcing us to refer to her as Dr. Jill Biden is all part of what we were

01:25:33.240 talking about moments ago, which is Latinx, Dr. Jill Biden.

01:25:39.200 We need your pronouns.

01:25:40.960 It's all I will force you to do what we want you to do.

01:25:44.460 They don't care if she's Dr. Jill Biden or Latinx or not.

01:25:48.760 That's all just part of the experiment of how much control do we have over you?

01:25:54.880 We're the little lab rats rats running on the wheel.

01:25:58.280 I am also Dr. Megan Kelly.

01:25:59.800 I have a jurist doctor.

01:26:00.560 I have more of a claim to doctor than she does.

01:26:02.160 And you can refer to me accordingly.

01:26:03.620 I hope to interview her one day and I'll I'll introduce her as Dr. Jill.

01:26:06.820 And I want her to refer to me as Dr. Megan.

01:26:10.040 Dr. Drew gets it.

01:26:11.080 Why not?

01:26:13.040 Now, listen, all of this is going to be discussed, I'm sure, in full on your new show.

01:26:17.200 You weren't busy enough.

01:26:18.340 Is that the is that the problem?

01:26:19.440 You've got this hit podcast.

01:26:20.680 When I got into podcasting, everybody said to me, I said, who are the real giants?

01:26:24.040 Of course, they mentioned Joe Rogan, our pal Ben Shapiro, and everybody mentioned Adam

01:26:28.600 Carolla.

01:26:29.320 Your show is a huge hit.

01:26:30.560 You've been doing really well with it.

01:26:32.540 So what are you why are you adding another one with our pals again at The Daily Wire, who

01:26:36.460 have been the star of this episode of The Megan Kelly Show?

01:26:40.580 I love doing stand up comedy.

01:26:44.100 Obviously, I'm in Hollywood.

01:26:46.940 From what you've heard of my opinions, you probably realize that Netflix is not beating

01:26:52.420 down my door to get me up on a special.

01:26:55.800 And HBO isn't either, because we live in a horrible political time with people that never

01:27:01.620 stop bellyaching about McCarthyism, but then apply it every chance they get.

01:27:05.800 But so, oh, enter The Daily Wire and they want to diversify and they want to get into comedy.

01:27:13.900 And we have the roller skate and the key or the peanut butter and the chocolate or whatever

01:27:19.620 the metaphor is.

01:27:20.740 But either way, I love the guys at The Daily Wire and I love doing comedy.

01:27:24.320 So it's a perfect fit.

01:27:25.260 I love that.

01:27:26.800 I love their mission.

01:27:28.260 And they are trying to build something else, you know, in the same way Barry Weiss has been

01:27:32.320 saying, build new lanes, you know, just stop trying to win back the old ones, build new

01:27:37.440 ones.

01:27:37.680 And she's got some pals doing a new university and, you know, she's on Substack and we're

01:27:42.520 doing podcasting and we are slowly but surely building new lanes.

01:27:45.740 This is part of it.

01:27:46.800 All right.

01:27:47.000 So I understand Jay Leno.

01:27:49.500 Was he the first?

01:27:50.940 Did you already you aired the first one?

01:27:52.220 Jay Leno is the guest on the first one.

01:27:54.800 Rob Riggle is the guest on the second.

01:27:57.700 I think we're going to get Bill Shatner up there.

01:28:00.240 Oh, nice.

01:28:01.860 So I go up and do stand up at the top, bring the guest on, do a little free form interview

01:28:07.560 with the guest.

01:28:08.240 The guest will do a little comedy and then we'll do an improv segment at the end.

01:28:12.320 So it's got a stand up show, but also a little variety to it.

01:28:17.840 And so far, I've been very well received.

01:28:21.340 I love it.

01:28:22.360 More Adam Carolla is is the answer.

01:28:24.640 Truth Yeller.

01:28:25.800 Adam Carolla, Truth Yeller.

01:28:27.700 Check it out at The Daily Wire.

01:28:29.140 So fun talking to you again.

01:28:30.280 I wish we had more time.

01:28:31.280 Great to see you.

01:28:32.440 Thanks, dear.

01:28:34.040 Reminder that you can buy Matt Walsh's hilarious book.

01:28:36.860 You've got to read this.

01:28:37.560 Johnny the Walrus at Johnny the Walrus dot com.

01:28:40.520 Don't miss Monday.

01:28:42.440 We've got Ennis Cantor Freedom, right?

01:28:44.720 The NBA player who's speaking out about China and about LeBron James.

01:28:48.580 I'm so excited he's coming on.

01:28:50.160 Don't miss it.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - December 03, 2021

Matt Walsh and Adam Carolla on Viewpoint Censorship, Alec Baldwin Speaking Out, and Australia's COVID crackdown ｜ Ep. 214

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