The Megyn Kelly Show - Maureen Callahan on Maria Shriver, Mark Halperin with Ted Cruz - MK Media Week One Highlights

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00:00:31.240 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.540 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's bonus episode.

00:00:47.120 We are down in D.C. for an exclusive interview with Tulsi Gabbard that airs tomorrow morning.

00:00:51.580 But today we're bringing you a look at our first two MK Media Podcast Network shows.

00:00:56.940 The Nerve with Maureen Callahan launched late last week and has been on fire.

00:01:02.120 Actually launched on Tuesday of last week.

00:01:03.740 And next up with Mark Halperin launched yesterday and is off to a great start.

00:01:08.380 Here's some of the excellent reporting and analysis.

00:01:11.000 Fun, smart, entertaining and compelling from Maureen and Mark.

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00:01:19.500 Back tomorrow. See you then.

00:01:21.020 So, Maria Shriver, you may have seen her on her little media tour. 0.79

00:01:26.000 She has a new book out, which I finally bought.

00:01:28.660 I was having trouble bringing myself to put money in her pocket.

00:01:32.320 But, you know, it's for a greater good.

00:01:34.600 Okay, so this is the book.

00:01:35.660 It's called I Am Maria.

00:01:38.500 Maria Shriver.

00:01:39.360 Number one New York Times bestselling author.

00:01:43.180 And, in fact, to my great dismay, I saw in this weekend's book review,

00:01:48.840 it has debuted at number one on the New York Times list.

00:01:53.580 And that was the inciting event.

00:01:55.940 I said, I've got to talk to you guys about this, and we've got to take it apart.

00:01:59.620 So, you know, Maria Shriver, I'm going to give you my blanket objections to her,

00:02:07.360 and then we can go in and really dig in piece by piece.

00:02:11.120 Maria Shriver has newly reinvented herself, I'm going to say, over the past decade 0.97

00:02:15.920 as a real Christian woman of faith, whose difficulties in life now have imbued her

00:02:23.760 with so much wisdom and experience that her job is now to teach all of us

00:02:29.660 how to become better people and really self-actualized.

00:02:34.520 Again, whatever that means.

00:02:35.560 But this is the garbage language that we are infected with in this current culture. 1.00

00:02:42.220 Maria Shriver, and this loops into this new book,

00:02:45.920 her husband Arnold Schwarzenegger, the mega movie star of the 80s,

00:02:51.340 there was nobody bigger, maybe Sly Stallone,

00:02:54.320 he had an affair.

00:02:57.480 I'm going to say actually a relationship because it went on for about 10 years

00:03:00.580 with the Schwarzenegger slash Shriver households made.

00:03:07.260 That affair resulted in a child

00:03:10.860 who was kept a secret for about 10 to 15 years

00:03:15.860 this child spent a lot of time in Arnold and Maria's home

00:03:20.240 among Arnold and Maria's four children,

00:03:22.840 one of whom Patrick Schwarzenegger starred in The White Lotus.

00:03:25.880 For my money, by the way, one of the best performances on the whole show.

00:03:28.800 Oh, I also saw Jason Isaacs at the White House Correspondents' Dinner.

00:03:31.900 Very small guy.

00:03:33.240 Like, shorter than I am.

00:03:34.320 I'm 5'7".

00:03:34.920 He was like maybe 5'5", and like real thin.

00:03:37.280 But anyway, so the kids grow up with this other child in their home often,

00:03:44.960 and this child, we're going to show you a picture of him,

00:03:49.080 is the spitting image of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

00:03:52.100 Okay?

00:03:52.540 So Maria Shriver would have us believe that the wool was pulled over her eyes 1.00

00:03:56.660 for about 15 years, that she had no idea that this could have been a child fathered

00:04:04.020 by her own husband, who, by the way, open secret in Hollywood.

00:04:08.960 I remember reading about this as a kid in like Premier Magazine and Movie Line Magazine.

00:04:14.100 This was back when magazines really mattered, and they like really delivered the goods,

00:04:17.840 and it was reported often in there, not only that Arnold was a serial womanizer,

00:04:22.200 but that he was really creepy with women on sets and way too handsy,

00:04:25.920 and he definitely would have been Me Too'd.

00:04:28.500 You're telling me that if I'm like a kid in suburban Long Island,

00:04:32.020 and I know about this, that Maria Shriver doesn't know about it, not buying it.

00:04:37.100 Maria Shriver doesn't know that this kid who's a carbon copy of her distinct-looking husband 0.93

00:04:42.200 with a jaw that like, come on, you don't, okay, fine, whatever.

00:04:48.300 The story breaks.

00:04:51.100 Maria, shocked, taking to her bed, her fainting couch, can't believe it.

00:04:55.340 By the way, she grew up with Kennedy, okay?

00:04:57.220 This is what these men do.

00:04:58.860 They treat their women like shit. 1.00

00:05:00.360 They have affairs.

00:05:02.140 They sire other kids. 0.97

00:05:03.580 Sometimes they leave women for dead. 1.00

00:05:05.180 She's shocked, guys, shocked to her bones.

00:05:11.560 She's a big Christian.

00:05:14.580 All we see, whenever Joseph Baina, that's the name of the child,

00:05:19.100 he's now an adult that Arnold had with the housekeeper,

00:05:21.880 and to Arnold's credit, he has been a present and loving father to this kid.

00:05:28.420 You know, Maria reportedly, allegedly, has iced this kid out, okay?

00:05:33.960 This kid is not welcome.

00:05:36.520 All of the siblings, the half-siblings, whatever, they're all adults now.

00:05:41.480 And by the way, one of her daughters, Catherine Schwarzenegger,

00:05:44.560 who sort of peddles in this lifestyle, self-help, wellness bullshit,

00:05:49.440 is married to Chris Pratt, who prides himself on being a big Christian.

00:05:53.560 I ask you, what is Christian about icing out this kid who is here through no fault? 0.98

00:05:58.980 This is not his fault.

00:06:00.240 That affair, that relationship, that is not his fault.

00:06:03.280 Why is he iced out of being around the paragons of virtue and Christianity, Maria Shriver?

00:06:09.600 This is why I didn't want to spend money on her book, you guys.

00:06:12.340 But I did it because it is for a greater good.

00:06:15.200 We're going to take her apart, as she should be.

00:06:18.880 You know, she gets such, like, velvet glove treatment, 0.99

00:06:21.420 because as we all know, regrettably, because they cannot stop banging on about it.

00:06:26.080 Her best friend is Oprah Winfrey, you know?

00:06:28.800 So, and she had a big career, by the way, in media.

00:06:32.640 She was a quote-unquote journalist.

00:06:34.000 And I have a personal anecdote to share at the end of this bit.

00:06:36.700 You guys are, I don't know if it's going to shock you,

00:06:38.700 but when it happened to me, I was kind of shocked.

00:06:42.260 So she's got this book out, and it's a book of poetry, okay?

00:06:45.520 The base price for this book, you buy it in a bookstore,

00:06:48.960 which I encourage because, you know, Amazon gets enough of our money,

00:06:51.560 30 bucks.

00:06:52.640 You're buying it in Canada, $39.99.

00:06:55.340 This book is very small, and by, I mean physically small, okay?

00:06:58.940 That means that the publisher is trying to scam you

00:07:01.660 by making it look like it has more pages

00:07:04.460 than an actual standard-sized book would, okay?

00:07:07.500 It's a book of her poetry, and I'm going to read just a little bit of it to you

00:07:11.340 because I love you, and I would never torture you like this.

00:07:14.580 You're going to gag, okay?

00:07:16.660 Don't drink anything while you're listening to this segment.

00:07:18.900 You're going to gag.

00:07:19.580 So she gives us a little bit in the beginning

00:07:22.140 and a little bit in the end of like actual prose we can read,

00:07:25.560 and she opens with reflections.

00:07:28.940 The first line, I am Maria.

00:07:33.180 No shit, lady. 1.00

00:07:34.200 Your picture's on the cover.

00:07:35.640 Your book is called I Am Maria,

00:07:37.060 and your name is on the bottom as the author, okay?

00:07:41.860 She tells us that searching for the authentic Maria,

00:07:45.520 uncovering, discovering, and recovering her garbage to fill up space 0.87

00:07:48.980 has been a challenge for me all my life.

00:07:51.960 For decades, I couldn't see her

00:07:53.580 because I was looking for myself in all the wrong places.

00:07:56.520 What is this?

00:07:58.640 You may be wondering,

00:07:59.740 what on earth took me so long to see these truths?

00:08:02.000 Trust me, I've asked myself that question a million times.

00:08:05.560 I now understand I couldn't have known these truths

00:08:07.740 until I learned them, and I couldn't have learned them

00:08:09.500 until I lived them, and I couldn't have lived them

00:08:11.040 until I had to.

00:08:12.060 She's sounding like Mel Robbins,

00:08:13.700 another total and complete moron

00:08:15.800 who is out there shilling snake oil to the women of America, 1.00

00:08:19.340 and I really hate this because it's all so inauthentic,

00:08:23.280 and none of it's true.

00:08:25.700 I've ripped many of these poems out of a place of fear,

00:08:28.520 shame, confusion, and darkness.

00:08:29.900 Okay, this scandal happened,

00:08:32.440 I'm going to say it was at least 20 years ago,

00:08:34.460 so I think she's very late to this party. 0.92

00:08:37.740 Now she gives us a little bit of an origin story

00:08:39.800 in case we don't know that she's a Kennedy 0.99

00:08:41.080 because trust me, these Kennedys never let any of us

00:08:43.320 forget that they're Kennedys,

00:08:44.800 though they probably should.

00:08:46.660 You see, she begins, which is so cloying.

00:08:49.660 It's a way of trying to establish relatability

00:08:52.920 with the reader, and it always puts me off

00:08:55.400 when people say you see because it's a tell to me

00:08:57.780 that they think that they are so above the rest of us

00:09:00.840 that they need to bring themselves down to earth

00:09:03.000 in order to converse with us,

00:09:04.340 even though we are the ones putting money in said pocket.

00:09:07.260 I grew up in a big, competitive Irish Catholic family

00:09:12.320 where you didn't sit around and talk about your feelings,

00:09:14.960 you went out into the world and had an impact,

00:09:17.580 the bar was set high, and I mean really high.

00:09:20.320 We know, we know.

00:09:22.560 In the tons of biographies, historical accounts,

00:09:27.580 magazine articles, documentaries, memoirs

00:09:30.640 that have been published since the assassination of JFK

00:09:33.460 in 1963, we know.

00:09:36.840 You don't have to tell us.

00:09:38.780 Please, don't tell us.

00:09:40.020 Just spare us.

00:09:40.600 Just assume.

00:09:41.960 You know what?

00:09:42.300 Just give us our dignity and assume

00:09:43.980 that we all have a modicum of intelligence

00:09:45.880 and know who you are.

00:09:47.180 That's why you got this book deal.

00:09:48.420 That's why you got your own publishing imprint.

00:09:49.880 That's why you get on the Today Show

00:09:51.400 an all manner of public national platforms

00:09:54.960 to sell your garbage.

00:09:58.000 Okay.

00:09:59.240 Fast forward to 2003 and kapow! 0.94

00:10:02.360 Exclamation point.

00:10:03.460 My movie star husband abruptly decided

00:10:05.960 he wanted to run for governor of California.

00:10:08.760 Wait, what?

00:10:10.420 You got to be kidding me.

00:10:11.800 Okay.

00:10:12.840 When Arnold Schwarzenegger, again,

00:10:15.000 known womanizer, known social climber,

00:10:18.440 everybody knew as early as the 80s

00:10:21.380 that he had his eye on the White House,

00:10:23.200 on finding a way to get around

00:10:26.600 or add an amendment to the Constitution

00:10:28.960 which would allow foreign-born people

00:10:31.080 to run for president of the United States,

00:10:33.540 everybody knew that this was this guy's ultimate goal.

00:10:37.520 What better way than at that time

00:10:39.760 to marry a prominent Kennedy?

00:10:41.740 We all knew it.

00:10:42.620 Maybe Maria really did delude herself. 1.00

00:10:44.800 I don't know.

00:10:45.280 She goes on to tell us more Mel Robbins stuff

00:10:47.880 about living her authentic life, blah, blah, blah.

00:10:50.280 Let's flash forward to a poem, shall we?

00:10:53.660 This poem is called Dallas.

00:10:57.320 Guess what it's about?

00:10:59.340 The word pulls the trigger.

00:11:01.920 That is really poor choice of language.

00:11:05.760 Rips through my house like the wind.

00:11:09.560 Dallas, why did you forsake us?

00:11:11.380 Why did you let that happen?

00:11:12.880 Why did you?

00:11:13.520 Where were you?

00:11:14.060 This is garbage, garbage, garbage.

00:11:18.260 Okay.

00:11:19.300 Now we get to a poem called Rejection,

00:11:21.960 which I'm guessing is about Arnold.

00:11:24.160 You know what I'm talking about.

00:11:25.500 Don't play naive.

00:11:26.320 Don't pretend you didn't know.

00:11:27.440 Don't pretend it didn't cut.

00:11:28.700 Face it.

00:11:29.440 That familiar feeling of rejection.

00:11:31.040 It cuts.

00:11:31.700 It makes you wince.

00:11:32.860 And this ain't Vincent Millay.

00:11:34.220 This is not.

00:11:34.700 And by the way, in the introduction to her book,

00:11:36.560 she tells us that she's done talking about her marriage.

00:11:38.760 And you won't find any real details about it here.

00:11:41.040 Again, what are we all doing here?

00:11:43.200 Either talk about the marriage and put it on the page

00:11:45.920 and tell your story or don't.

00:11:48.020 But don't be a tease, Maria.

00:11:50.140 You know, everybody learns that.

00:11:52.000 Like everybody hates a tease.

00:11:53.860 So I'm going to tell you my little Maria Shriver story,

00:11:57.220 which is that in 2019,

00:12:01.420 I had published a book for the same publisher

00:12:03.500 that publishes Maria Shriver.

00:12:04.820 It's Viking.

00:12:05.760 And it was called American Predator.

00:12:07.360 It was a true crime story.

00:12:09.560 Immediately hit the New York Times bestseller list.

00:12:12.060 It outperformed their expectations.

00:12:14.060 And it makes them still to this day a ton of money.

00:12:17.440 They said to me,

00:12:18.640 whatever you want to write about next,

00:12:20.720 we will publish it.

00:12:21.600 We don't care.

00:12:22.660 You know, because all they could see was dollar signs.

00:12:24.640 I said, great.

00:12:25.600 Here's my next book.

00:12:26.680 Guess what it was?

00:12:28.000 Ask Not,

00:12:28.540 which is the book that came out last summer.

00:12:31.660 Kennedy book about all the Kennedy women

00:12:33.920 that family has like fucked with and destroyed.

00:12:37.720 My publisher went radio silent for a good few months,

00:12:41.180 which is a very, very,

00:12:42.740 it's like a no-no in that world.

00:12:44.000 You don't do that.

00:12:44.540 You can really screw with an author's career doing that

00:12:46.800 because suddenly everybody thinks that I'm a problem,

00:12:49.540 that the author's the problem.

00:12:51.020 If a publishing house doesn't want to go near

00:12:52.840 an author that has just sold them a ton of books,

00:12:55.900 there's got to be a major issue, right?

00:12:59.520 Maria thinks in this book,

00:13:00.780 this guy, Brian Tartt,

00:13:01.880 who is the publisher of said house, right?

00:13:05.900 Brian was my publisher.

00:13:07.700 I thought he loved me until word got back to me

00:13:10.540 that Viking had likely passed.

00:13:14.360 I'm going to say likely allegedly passed

00:13:16.060 because they were getting in bed with Maria Shriver

00:13:18.280 and giving her her own imprint

00:13:19.700 and they didn't want to upset her delicate sensibilities.

00:13:22.340 To which I said,

00:13:23.660 that's a bunch of bullshit

00:13:24.640 because Maria Shriver likes to call herself a journalist 0.99

00:13:26.900 and any journalist worth their salt

00:13:28.600 would never want to trample on anyone's First Amendment right

00:13:32.200 to express themselves in the pages of a book

00:13:34.260 or their ideas,

00:13:35.420 no matter how confrontational or upsetting.

00:13:38.100 I also had a fellow author

00:13:40.060 decline to give me a blurb for the book

00:13:44.740 saying that this person,

00:13:47.240 I will not gender this person, 0.99

00:13:48.780 was too afraid of upsetting Maria Shriver,

00:13:50.600 which to me, I was like,

00:13:51.660 are you kidding?

00:13:52.940 Upset Maria Shriver.

00:13:53.840 Who cares?

00:13:56.520 So that will lead us to Jack Schlossberg.

00:14:01.140 I've been dying to do this for a very long time

00:14:03.600 and I'm so happy this platform has afforded me this

00:14:06.660 and it is my fervent hope

00:14:08.200 that this winds up in Jack Schlossberg's Instagram feed

00:14:11.460 because he went after me personally a couple of months ago

00:14:15.560 after I wrote a story,

00:14:17.360 a column for the Daily Mail

00:14:19.020 in which I basically said,

00:14:20.320 why isn't Caroline Kennedy coming to get her son? 1.00

00:14:24.100 Because his social media accounts

00:14:26.580 and his trolling of people

00:14:28.620 who are really far more accomplished and intelligent

00:14:31.700 than he is, by the way,

00:14:32.500 this is a 32-year-old man who has no real job

00:14:35.020 and spends his days filming himself for Instagram.

00:14:39.280 And I mean, it's like, it's almost,

00:14:40.500 I'm not saying he is,

00:14:41.740 but it's like watching somebody who's like bipolar

00:14:43.740 and in a manic phase

00:14:44.800 and they can't stop doing something

00:14:46.260 like posting, posting, posting.

00:14:47.500 And they speak in ways that actually make zero sense,

00:14:50.040 even though he'll remind you more than once.

00:14:51.860 He's been to Harvard twice, you guys, twice.

00:14:53.600 And it's not like he's a legacy or anything.

00:14:56.240 But anyway, he went after me personally

00:14:57.980 after I wrote a column basically saying,

00:15:00.740 this is the kind of Kennedy

00:15:02.040 that the family used to like lobotomize and hide.

00:15:05.120 Ask not, read about Rosemary.

00:15:09.140 And anyway, he's out there

00:15:11.220 making an absolute ass of himself.

00:15:15.000 There was a story in page six that I just loved.

00:15:18.440 And it basically said that Jack, JFK's grandson,

00:15:22.540 is doing more harm to the Kennedy name

00:15:24.640 than the rest of them combined.

00:15:26.420 That's coming from Kennedy family members.

00:15:28.980 And that says a lot.

00:15:30.300 Again, when you're talking about a family

00:15:31.700 that has unalived women who were inconvenient, 1.00

00:15:34.440 left someone to drown or die.

00:15:36.940 She didn't drown.

00:15:37.440 She suffocated in three feet of water.

00:15:39.760 That says a lot.

00:15:41.660 He then went on to social media

00:15:43.520 and started calling me names.

00:15:45.340 Okay, like it's gonna take more than that, Jack.

00:15:48.160 It's gonna take more than that, Jack, calling me names.

00:15:51.340 I'll repeat it for you because he thought it was witty.

00:15:54.440 He called me Maureen Vagine.

00:15:58.920 I guess he thought my name rhymes

00:16:01.320 with like a female body part 1.00

00:16:03.180 that by definition should be something

00:16:05.680 we mock and laugh about.

00:16:07.940 Which, you know, by the way,

00:16:08.960 I've never understood that.

00:16:10.060 I've never frankly understood why the P word,

00:16:12.480 the word pussy, 0.96

00:16:13.300 is supposed to be sort of a put down in the culture.

00:16:16.820 I mean, women give birth. 1.00

00:16:18.820 You know, we are incredibly powerful

00:16:20.480 because of that bodily part that men don't possess.

00:16:24.120 So, you know, fuck you.

00:16:25.460 Anyway, Jack's been on Instagram

00:16:27.700 for a couple of reasons.

00:16:28.840 Number one, he is loudly taking

00:16:31.380 a very brave, determined stance.

00:16:36.060 We're not talking Israel versus Palestine.

00:16:38.280 We're talking the Met Gala.

00:16:39.900 And he is telling us

00:16:41.100 that he is boycotting the Met Gala.

00:16:43.580 And you can watch a little bit of this

00:16:45.420 from his Instagram.

00:16:46.300 Hey, Anna Wintour, I'm sorry,

00:16:49.300 but I'm boycotting the Met Gala this year.

00:16:51.320 I can't go in good conscience

00:16:52.720 with so much happening around the world

00:16:54.360 and at home.

00:16:55.760 It's just not the time.

00:16:57.160 It's not the time for a party like that.

00:16:58.660 So I'm calling on everybody

00:16:59.960 to boycott the Met Gala.

00:17:01.740 It's not the time.

00:17:03.000 Thank you, guys.

00:17:03.600 Thank you all so much.

00:17:05.140 Thank you.

00:17:05.820 Thank you all so much.

00:17:07.240 Thank you.

00:17:07.960 No, thank you.

00:17:09.360 Anyway, I'm boycotting the Met Gala.

00:17:11.340 Enough of him.

00:17:11.800 Enough of him.

00:17:12.420 Enough of him.

00:17:13.100 Enough.

00:17:13.880 This is another thing he does.

00:17:14.920 He just says the same thing

00:17:15.800 like over and over and over

00:17:16.700 because he really doesn't have anything to say.

00:17:18.120 Number one, as per news reports,

00:17:21.860 he was not invited.

00:17:23.100 Okay, that's why he's boycotting it.

00:17:25.200 Number two, can we please look at a photo

00:17:26.860 of Jack with his mommy

00:17:28.240 at the Met Gala a few years ago?

00:17:31.220 You guys, look at the dress

00:17:33.300 that Caroline Kennedy is wearing.

00:17:35.480 Now, I am sure, I can't prove it.

00:17:38.160 I don't know if the actual receipts,

00:17:39.360 but I am sure that Anna Wintour

00:17:40.800 put her in that dress 1.00

00:17:42.200 because every attendee

00:17:44.320 has to have their look approved by Anna.

00:17:47.460 And so first of all,

00:17:48.920 that's how like grubby Caroline Kennedy 1.00

00:17:50.880 and her kid are.

00:17:52.040 They're like willing to have Anna Wintour

00:17:54.240 tell them what they can and cannot wear.

00:17:57.120 I mean, she's political royalty,

00:17:58.600 don't you know?

00:17:59.440 Secondly, look at this.

00:18:00.600 She looks like a Japanese cake exploded. 1.00

00:18:05.420 She actually looks like a couch exploded. 1.00

00:18:07.000 It's sort of like the version of Kim K's dress 0.58

00:18:09.720 when she went with Kanye that first year.

00:18:11.200 This is an epic troll.

00:18:12.640 This is an epic, epic troll.

00:18:14.020 And her date is her layabout, useless,

00:18:16.940 nepo baby son,

00:18:18.040 who not for nothing was hired by Anna Wintour

00:18:21.040 over the summer to be Vogue's political correspondent.

00:18:25.920 And look at the tongue bathing he got for this.

00:18:29.300 I believe, did Annie Leibovitz shoot this?

00:18:31.040 It was somebody big.

00:18:32.340 We're looking at Jack on the floor

00:18:34.960 in what looks like a newsroom

00:18:36.200 next to a Xerox machine

00:18:38.700 rolling around in Xeroxes of his own face.

00:18:43.360 He proceeded, I think he maybe wrote one or two columns

00:18:47.700 by which I mean, I know how this works.

00:18:49.760 I've seen it all.

00:18:50.420 I see it all the time.

00:18:51.760 These celebrities get these bylines,

00:18:53.240 but what they do is they call an editor.

00:18:54.620 They talk to an editor

00:18:55.380 and an editor puts them into a cogent piece of writing

00:18:58.440 that is semi-publishable.

00:19:00.680 And he instead went on Instagram

00:19:03.300 and let's watch him explain to us

00:19:05.860 why he feels the need to go live.

00:19:08.340 Hey, everybody.

00:19:09.400 Hey, everybody.

00:19:10.440 Hey, welcome, everybody.

00:19:12.400 Hey, you know, this is unplanned.

00:19:14.300 I didn't plan any of this.

00:19:15.480 I just decided to go live.

00:19:16.480 I've never been live.

00:19:18.380 I've never been live.

00:19:19.680 Actually, that's not true.

00:19:20.420 One time I chugged a monster live.

00:19:22.440 It's maybe 2018.

00:19:24.640 I think live is important.

00:19:26.180 I think live is growing.

00:19:27.440 I think live is the future.

00:19:28.940 So that's why I'm going live today.

00:19:31.560 Now, you may be wondering,

00:19:33.540 why are you going live?

00:19:35.800 What's up?

00:19:36.800 Well, I wanted to show you that amount of footage

00:19:41.060 because it ratifies my earlier point

00:19:44.100 that all he does is repeat stuff.

00:19:46.520 There's no actual content or original thought behind it.

00:19:49.680 I'm going live.

00:19:50.480 I'm going live.

00:19:51.080 It's important to go live.

00:19:52.060 I think live is growing.

00:19:52.900 It's important to grow.

00:19:53.700 What are you talking about?

00:19:55.380 Why are you clogging up my goddamn feed with your bullshit? 0.98

00:19:59.940 You're not bright.

00:20:01.200 You're not talented.

00:20:02.500 You have nothing to offer except your name,

00:20:05.280 which, sir, frankly, is in the toilet.

00:20:07.720 Why don't you go get a job

00:20:09.040 and be a productive member of society

00:20:11.180 instead of talking like a child

00:20:14.080 to an audience that you think adores you?

00:20:18.560 Oh, by the way, I love this for him.

00:20:20.540 Alan Dershowitz is reportedly suing him

00:20:23.020 for an online troll,

00:20:24.960 and it couldn't happen to a better guy,

00:20:27.680 and I hope Alan Dershowitz takes this kid

00:20:30.040 for whatever he's worth,

00:20:31.420 which we all know is mommy's money.

00:20:35.140 Next up, before we go to break,

00:20:37.040 I want to remind you guys that, listen,

00:20:38.760 I've been getting,

00:20:39.880 I read all the emails, all the DMs.

00:20:42.200 I'm responding to as many of them as I can

00:20:44.420 as quickly as I can,

00:20:45.360 and God bless you because this is a problem

00:20:48.140 so many people, including Jack Schlossberg,

00:20:50.880 would love to have.

00:20:52.380 This July, there is a global summit

00:20:54.680 of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro,

00:20:57.800 the bloc of emerging superpowers,

00:20:59.540 you know, including China, Russia, India, and Iran.

00:21:02.420 They're meeting with the goal of displacing 1.00

00:21:04.440 the U.S. dollar as the global currency.

00:21:07.240 They're calling this the Rio Reset.

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00:21:18.680 While this transition won't happen overnight,

00:21:21.280 the Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment

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00:22:01.940 And now joining me on next up,

00:22:07.800 our first episode,

00:22:08.780 the Texas Senator Ted Cruz.

00:22:10.700 Senator, very grateful to you

00:22:11.760 for making time.

00:22:12.860 Mark, great to be with you.

00:22:13.720 Thanks for having me.

00:22:14.860 You spoke the other day

00:22:16.060 about the two tariff paths

00:22:17.580 that you and the president

00:22:18.440 and some other of your colleagues

00:22:19.400 discussed about a path

00:22:21.060 that had the tariffs be short-term

00:22:22.460 and effective leverage

00:22:23.500 and tariffs, I'll paraphrase,

00:22:25.860 that lead to international calamity.

00:22:28.160 As we sit here on the 100th day

00:22:29.720 of the president's administration,

00:22:30.660 how are you feeling about the prospects

00:22:32.760 that he's solidly on path one?

00:22:35.480 Look, I very much hope

00:22:36.540 he's on path one.

00:22:37.840 Frankly, there are voices

00:22:39.340 within the administration

00:22:40.440 that are advocating

00:22:41.400 for both directions.

00:22:42.740 And there's a real difference

00:22:44.180 of opinion within the administration

00:22:46.960 on that front.

00:22:48.540 I think President Trump

00:22:50.540 has an historic opportunity,

00:22:52.620 an opportunity to use the leverage.

00:22:55.260 And he's got leverage

00:22:56.180 no other president has had

00:22:57.460 because he is credibly threatened

00:22:59.920 these tariffs.

00:23:01.640 Suddenly, our trading partners

00:23:03.480 desperately want to cut deals

00:23:05.360 and want to dramatically reduce

00:23:07.620 the tariffs they charge

00:23:08.760 on U.S. goods and services

00:23:10.340 in exchange for President Trump

00:23:12.560 lifting the tariffs he's announced.

00:23:14.640 If we sit here, Mark,

00:23:16.440 30 days, 60 days, 90 days from now,

00:23:19.420 and the outcome is

00:23:21.220 that tariffs worldwide

00:23:22.480 have gone down massively,

00:23:24.240 that is an incredible

00:23:26.360 and an historic victory

00:23:28.260 for the United States.

00:23:29.760 It's very much the path

00:23:31.360 that I am urging

00:23:32.320 the president to go down.

00:23:34.120 There's another path,

00:23:35.500 and there's some vocal people

00:23:36.780 in the administration advocating it,

00:23:38.920 that don't see the tariffs

00:23:40.640 as leverage.

00:23:41.620 They don't see them

00:23:42.380 as means to an end.

00:23:43.820 They see the tariffs as the end.

00:23:45.640 And they want them

00:23:46.920 to be a permanent feature

00:23:48.420 of our economic system,

00:23:50.320 the United States

00:23:51.060 having very, very high tariffs.

00:23:52.500 Our trading partners

00:23:53.960 all having very high

00:23:55.220 retaliatory tariffs.

00:23:57.320 I think that would be

00:23:58.040 a terrible outcome.

00:23:58.880 I think that would be terrible

00:23:59.800 for my home state of Texas.

00:24:01.140 I think it would be terrible

00:24:01.880 for the country.

00:24:03.340 And I'll tell you candidly,

00:24:04.920 I don't know which path

00:24:06.100 we're going to go down.

00:24:06.960 I am trying very hard,

00:24:08.360 and I'm repeatedly urging

00:24:09.580 the president go down

00:24:11.400 path number one,

00:24:12.420 but he's got voices

00:24:13.180 that are urging

00:24:13.820 path number two as well.

00:24:15.800 And so I think that uncertainty

00:24:17.320 is going to persist

00:24:18.060 for some time.

00:24:19.400 You and I have not led

00:24:20.280 exactly parallel lives

00:24:21.640 since we met

00:24:22.240 in the 2000 Bush campaign,

00:24:23.780 but we're both focused

00:24:24.960 on being dads.

00:24:25.780 We both host video programs,

00:24:27.600 and we both sometimes

00:24:29.820 look in wonder

00:24:30.500 at the Trump administration

00:24:31.740 and try to figure out

00:24:32.920 exactly what's going on.

00:24:34.100 And the last thing is,

00:24:35.140 you and I are both

00:24:35.720 talking regularly

00:24:36.360 to owners of large,

00:24:38.060 small businesses

00:24:39.100 and CEOs of corporations,

00:24:40.780 probably some of the same people,

00:24:41.960 who are really worried

00:24:42.900 about path two.

00:24:44.220 Paint a picture.

00:24:45.180 If your influence

00:24:46.280 doesn't pervade,

00:24:46.980 and those in the administration

00:24:47.660 who agree with you,

00:24:48.160 what does path two look like

00:24:49.680 in Q2, Q3, Q4 this year

00:24:52.200 for the American economy

00:24:53.140 and the American family?

00:24:54.580 Look, I think if we see

00:24:55.720 high tariffs and perpetuity,

00:24:57.600 you see a lot of businesses,

00:24:58.980 their costs go up dramatically.

00:25:00.640 I think you'd see businesses

00:25:01.680 going out of business.

00:25:03.080 I think you'd see prices

00:25:04.100 going up significantly.

00:25:05.620 I think there's a real risk

00:25:07.000 of going into a recession,

00:25:08.800 all of which is a terrible outcome.

00:25:10.960 I don't want to see that happen.

00:25:12.900 But I want to underscore,

00:25:14.800 you know, it's interesting.

00:25:15.400 There's been a fair amount

00:25:17.260 of press coverage saying,

00:25:18.320 oh, Cruz is critical

00:25:19.600 of the Trump tariffs.

00:25:20.740 Let me be very clear.

00:25:22.460 I think Trump has an opportunity

00:25:24.340 to do something

00:25:25.220 that no other president

00:25:26.360 in our lifetimes has done,

00:25:28.900 which is to have real leverage

00:25:31.000 to finally get our trading partners

00:25:32.880 to lower the barriers they have

00:25:34.780 to U.S. goods and services.

00:25:36.680 President Trump is exactly right

00:25:38.660 that there are lots of countries

00:25:40.340 across this globe

00:25:41.280 that trade ridiculously unfairly with us,

00:25:44.400 that we open up our market

00:25:46.120 wide open to them,

00:25:47.660 and they put huge barriers

00:25:49.160 that stop us from selling

00:25:50.680 our goods and services

00:25:51.560 in their country.

00:25:53.000 And listen, it's not complicated

00:25:55.000 what President Trump's

00:25:56.080 negotiating strategy is.

00:25:57.520 He often will walk up,

00:25:59.520 smack someone in the head, 0.55

00:26:00.660 but with a two by four,

00:26:02.100 and then negotiate from there.

00:26:03.720 And with the tariffs he's announced,

00:26:05.740 he's done the smack.

00:26:07.020 Now, what I've been urging him

00:26:09.220 to do is cut the deals,

00:26:10.520 come and cut the deals,

00:26:11.700 get the other countries 0.87

00:26:13.620 to dramatically lower their barriers.

00:26:15.720 And I will say it will be a rich irony

00:26:18.020 if Donald J. Trump ends up being

00:26:21.060 the greatest free trade president

00:26:22.720 of our lifetimes.

00:26:23.820 But I think that's entirely possible

00:26:25.420 if he ends up negotiating

00:26:26.740 some phenomenal deals.

00:26:28.240 I hope that's the path we go down.

00:26:30.360 And what people misunderstand

00:26:31.160 is that's his goal.

00:26:32.580 And as you said,

00:26:33.140 there are plenty of people around him

00:26:34.160 who share the Cruz vision

00:26:35.560 of how this should go.

00:26:36.980 And they hope, as you do,

00:26:38.640 that he takes that path.

00:26:39.580 I could talk to you about tariffs for an hour

00:26:41.140 because that's the kind of guy I am.

00:26:42.720 But let's move on.

00:26:43.520 Let's move on to reconciliation.

00:26:45.460 Big debate within your conference

00:26:47.260 and on the House side

00:26:48.180 about spending cuts.

00:26:50.760 People want big cuts.

00:26:52.180 They want to prove

00:26:52.660 that you're a fiscally responsible party.

00:26:54.180 But as you know,

00:26:55.140 the number of political fights

00:26:56.680 that get picked

00:26:57.380 every time you cut anything

00:26:58.760 or restrain the rate of growth

00:27:00.400 is very big.

00:27:01.820 What are the big spending restraints

00:27:04.700 you would like to see personally?

00:27:06.380 Not what the conference

00:27:07.700 would like to see.

00:27:08.140 What are the big spending restraints

00:27:09.440 you would like to see?

00:27:10.680 Look, I think we will see

00:27:12.440 significant spending cuts.

00:27:14.700 How broad they are, I don't know.

00:27:16.660 I do think too much has been given

00:27:18.540 to the level

00:27:19.840 and the budget resolution

00:27:20.940 of the House versus the Senate.

00:27:22.740 I think at the end of the day,

00:27:24.220 what matters is what's actually

00:27:25.740 in the reconciliation package

00:27:27.240 that passes.

00:27:28.280 I can tell you in the Senate,

00:27:29.740 there are a number of us

00:27:30.700 who are arguing

00:27:31.420 that we've got to rein back

00:27:33.560 from the massive excesses

00:27:35.520 that COVID produced.

00:27:38.020 That the COVID pandemic

00:27:39.620 became an excuse

00:27:40.620 to increase federal spending

00:27:42.440 by about 40%.

00:27:43.520 It was a massive spending binge.

00:27:46.200 And Washington being Washington,

00:27:48.020 when the pandemic was over,

00:27:49.300 the spending didn't stop.

00:27:50.620 And what we're doing,

00:27:52.700 I think, is irresponsible.

00:27:54.280 I think we need to see

00:27:55.120 real leadership reining it in.

00:27:57.380 I think we're seeing the president,

00:27:58.880 in particular, Elon Musk and Doge,

00:28:01.440 showing real leadership saying,

00:28:03.120 hey, we can rein back

00:28:03.980 a lot of this waste, fraud, and abuse.

00:28:06.300 But where it falls exactly,

00:28:08.080 it's going to come down

00:28:08.900 committee by committee

00:28:09.940 in the Senate and House.

00:28:11.220 And so we'll see.

00:28:13.020 I'm going to be pressing

00:28:14.120 a number of us for doing more.

00:28:17.040 And the question is going to be

00:28:18.520 what gets 50 votes in the Senate

00:28:20.440 and what gets 218 votes in the House.

00:28:22.440 But Senator,

00:28:22.900 give me a couple specific programs

00:28:24.440 with dollar amounts

00:28:25.340 of where you would like to see cuts.

00:28:27.000 Not what's going to happen,

00:28:28.020 not what the process will yield,

00:28:29.620 but if they said,

00:28:30.600 Senator Cruz, you decide,

00:28:31.920 where would you like to see big cuts

00:28:33.180 and what dollar figures?

00:28:34.580 So listen,

00:28:35.360 I am not laying out specific cuts

00:28:37.760 that I'm advocating.

00:28:38.680 And in the Senate,

00:28:39.320 different people are focusing

00:28:40.340 on different aspects

00:28:41.540 of what they're leaning in on.

00:28:43.180 So on that particular issue,

00:28:44.580 the person who's probably been

00:28:45.500 most vocal on that

00:28:46.740 has been Ron Johnson.

00:28:47.920 Ron Johnson,

00:28:48.660 every week at lunch,

00:28:50.280 lays out,

00:28:51.140 goes back to,

00:28:52.200 for example,

00:28:52.800 the 2019 budget.

00:28:54.220 And what Ron Johnson

00:28:55.020 is advocating is

00:28:56.020 rather than start

00:28:56.940 with where we are currently

00:28:58.460 and cut. 0.99

00:28:59.340 He says,

00:29:00.000 let's go back

00:29:00.580 to the 2019 budget

00:29:01.880 before the pandemic

00:29:03.460 and let's plus it up

00:29:04.680 for population

00:29:06.620 and inflation

00:29:07.740 and let's hold Social Security

00:29:09.220 and Medicare harmless,

00:29:10.540 but reduce everything else

00:29:12.520 from there.

00:29:13.080 I think that's a sensible way

00:29:14.460 to do it,

00:29:14.960 building it up

00:29:15.680 from where we were

00:29:16.620 rather than cutting

00:29:17.860 where we are.

00:29:18.940 That being said,

00:29:20.140 I'll tell you,

00:29:20.860 you got 53 Republican senators,

00:29:22.800 so different senators

00:29:23.940 focus on different aspects

00:29:25.360 of reconciliation.

00:29:27.000 I'm focusing on lots

00:29:27.940 of different aspects

00:29:28.600 of reconciliation,

00:29:30.120 one of which

00:29:30.960 that I'm focusing on

00:29:32.260 is spectrum

00:29:33.540 and making more

00:29:34.480 electromagnetic spectrum

00:29:35.720 available to the private sector.

00:29:37.880 Why is that?

00:29:38.980 Because my number one priority

00:29:40.460 is jobs,

00:29:41.260 and there are very few policies

00:29:42.560 that can make,

00:29:44.040 can produce more jobs

00:29:45.400 in the private sector

00:29:46.360 than freeing up spectrum

00:29:48.360 for investment.

00:29:49.520 I think it's critical

00:29:50.200 that America win the race 0.83

00:29:51.620 to 5G and 6G.

00:29:53.540 And what's interesting

00:29:54.340 is by auctioning off spectrum,

00:29:57.300 not only am I not spending money,

00:30:00.360 but a spectrum auction

00:30:01.520 generates about $100 billion

00:30:03.840 in real revenue

00:30:05.520 to the federal government

00:30:06.900 from auctioning off

00:30:08.240 that spectrum,

00:30:09.300 plus the billions of investment

00:30:11.240 in the hundreds of thousands

00:30:12.440 of new jobs.

00:30:13.700 So that's been a big priority of mine

00:30:15.400 is fighting for spectrum

00:30:16.460 to be in reconciliation.

00:30:18.060 I'm also fighting

00:30:19.260 for multiple different elements

00:30:20.740 to be included

00:30:21.460 in reconciliation,

00:30:22.160 including no taxes on tips,

00:30:24.760 which is my legislation,

00:30:26.540 including eliminating

00:30:27.960 the CFPB,

00:30:30.220 zeroing out its budget

00:30:33.400 and the regulations

00:30:34.740 that the CFPB puts in place,

00:30:36.600 I think are incredibly harmful

00:30:38.540 to job creation.

00:30:40.260 And two other things

00:30:41.140 that I'm fighting to include

00:30:43.060 are school choice.

00:30:45.000 I have legislation

00:30:45.960 that creates a federal tax credit

00:30:47.920 for contributions

00:30:49.420 to scholarship-granting organizations

00:30:51.560 institutions in the states

00:30:53.160 and also looking at creating

00:30:56.060 investment accounts

00:30:57.360 for children when they are born.

00:30:59.940 All of those are elements

00:31:01.280 that are part of the discussion.

00:31:03.220 The line-by-line spending cuts,

00:31:05.100 I'm going to support

00:31:05.920 as big and bold

00:31:07.060 as spending cuts

00:31:07.720 as we can do.

00:31:08.880 But in terms of creating

00:31:09.940 the line-by-line,

00:31:10.940 I've let others focus on that,

00:31:12.520 whereas I'm focused

00:31:13.340 on the issues

00:31:15.240 I just laid out.

00:31:15.880 I know you think

00:31:17.300 school choice

00:31:18.320 is a civil rights issue

00:31:19.380 of our time,

00:31:19.920 and I agree with you on that,

00:31:20.760 and I think it's incredible

00:31:22.020 what you've done in Texas.

00:31:23.220 And as you have said,

00:31:24.620 most senators don't get involved 0.86

00:31:25.800 in state legislative business,

00:31:27.160 but that's an issue

00:31:27.840 you feel so strongly about

00:31:28.900 that you've done,

00:31:29.480 and it's a fascinating case study

00:31:30.960 in how a federal official

00:31:32.240 can actually impact

00:31:33.080 their own constituents

00:31:34.080 through the state.

00:31:35.560 I'd love watching

00:31:36.540 your podcast career,

00:31:37.620 video podcast career,

00:31:39.040 and people haven't sampled

00:31:40.080 the show, you should.

00:31:41.380 It's fascinating,

00:31:42.360 and again,

00:31:43.100 I knew you when you were

00:31:43.740 a Bush staffer,

00:31:44.540 so to watch the trajectory,

00:31:46.200 sure, United States senator,

00:31:47.460 whatever,

00:31:48.280 successful video podcast host,

00:31:50.380 that's something.

00:31:51.400 Now, I watched a lot

00:31:52.820 of your episodes,

00:31:53.660 and I want to show you

00:31:54.760 one thing,

00:31:55.520 and I want to get

00:31:56.000 your reaction to it.

00:31:56.700 Guys, this is a 101.

00:31:58.840 How real is the prospect

00:32:00.440 of killer robots

00:32:02.320 annihilating humanity?

00:32:04.680 20% likely.

00:32:06.500 Maybe 10%.

00:32:07.260 Wow.

00:32:07.720 On what time frame?

00:32:11.440 After 10 years.

00:32:13.360 So soon,

00:32:14.080 you see a world

00:32:15.980 where that's possible.

00:32:18.440 Yeah.

00:32:18.820 All right, so reacting

00:32:20.440 to what guests say live,

00:32:22.160 as I do right here,

00:32:23.520 very difficult,

00:32:24.480 but I want you to just

00:32:25.440 be a little introspective here.

00:32:26.860 One of the smartest people

00:32:27.900 ever tells you

00:32:29.340 that within 10 years,

00:32:30.600 there's a decent percent chance

00:32:31.860 that robots will kill us all.

00:32:34.080 I thought you were

00:32:34.540 a little subdued, frankly.

00:32:36.540 Well, I was subdued,

00:32:38.300 but to be clear,

00:32:39.120 teasing out the question,

00:32:40.800 what's the chance

00:32:41.480 that we're all going to die?

00:32:43.660 And to have,

00:32:45.760 as you point out,

00:32:46.840 one of the most brilliant men

00:32:47.940 who ever lived,

00:32:48.720 say 10 to 20%

00:32:50.060 in five to 10 years,

00:32:52.100 that I sort of figured

00:32:54.020 I'd let those words

00:32:55.400 carry the weight on their own.

00:32:57.400 All right,

00:32:57.660 that was a good choice

00:32:58.480 for a host.

00:32:59.100 I would have jumped up

00:32:59.800 screaming and maybe 0.81

00:33:00.560 raced from the room,

00:33:01.660 but you chose

00:33:02.980 a different tag.

00:33:03.960 It was kind of compelling.

00:33:05.260 I want to hear about

00:33:06.780 work-family balance for you.

00:33:09.220 You know,

00:33:09.920 your state's relatively

00:33:10.900 far from Washington.

00:33:12.080 You've chosen to add this,

00:33:13.600 what for some people

00:33:14.240 would be a full-time job

00:33:15.180 co-hosting this show.

00:33:16.760 So talk about

00:33:17.620 how you're currently balancing

00:33:18.660 being a dad and a husband

00:33:19.840 with your two full-time jobs.

00:33:22.720 Yeah, look,

00:33:23.280 it's the worst part of the job

00:33:25.100 is the price

00:33:26.500 that your family pays.

00:33:28.340 So our girls right now,

00:33:30.260 they're 14 and 17.

00:33:32.700 We've got two teenage girls 0.99

00:33:34.240 at home,

00:33:35.080 eighth grade and 11th grade.

00:33:37.100 And my typical schedule,

00:33:38.600 we live in Houston.

00:33:39.700 So Heidi and the girls

00:33:40.500 are in Houston.

00:33:41.160 They go to school in Houston.

00:33:42.760 And the usual schedule

00:33:44.120 is that I fly to D.C.

00:33:45.700 Monday mornings.

00:33:46.700 And I'm here Monday,

00:33:47.540 Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday.

00:33:48.760 And then usually

00:33:49.460 I fly home Thursday nights.

00:33:52.080 Fridays, I'll do day trips

00:33:53.560 across Texas.

00:33:55.460 Saturdays, I'll often do

00:33:56.580 day trips across Texas.

00:33:57.880 And then I try to keep Sundays

00:33:59.540 as a down day for the family.

00:34:01.020 Um, that's rough.

00:34:03.180 It means you miss

00:34:03.940 a whole lot of things.

00:34:05.200 You miss a lot of volleyball games.

00:34:07.080 You miss a lot of dance performances.

00:34:10.000 You know, that's, uh,

00:34:11.400 that's a really difficult aspect of it.

00:34:13.340 It's also tough, tough on the girls. 0.95

00:34:15.340 Look, any kid, any person

00:34:17.060 wants to be known for who they are.

00:34:20.000 And, and one of the realities

00:34:21.900 in the heavily polarized world

00:34:24.400 we're in, uh, is, is listen,

00:34:26.940 politics is very different

00:34:28.500 from, from how it used to be.

00:34:30.620 Um, right now, the two sides,

00:34:33.400 they hate each other's guts.

00:34:34.620 And, and there is an anger

00:34:36.280 and vitriol that I really think

00:34:38.660 is unfortunate.

00:34:39.240 I, I wish we learned to,

00:34:40.940 to get along with each other

00:34:42.900 and not hate the other side

00:34:44.780 the way it is now.

00:34:45.700 But, you know,

00:34:46.780 I'll give you an illustration.

00:34:48.340 Uh, 2017, the 2017 World Series.

00:34:51.420 So I went to games three,

00:34:53.500 four, and five in Houston.

00:34:54.740 Uh, game three, I took my dad.

00:34:57.400 Really cool to take your dad

00:34:58.520 to a World Series.

00:34:59.960 Uh, we had season tickets

00:35:01.460 to the Astros when I was a kid.

00:35:02.760 So I got to take my dad to that.

00:35:04.080 Game four, I took Heidi.

00:35:05.640 By the way, that was a complete waste.

00:35:07.400 Heidi is not in,

00:35:08.180 in the baseball at all.

00:35:09.720 She asked me if the Astros

00:35:10.900 were going to score a touchdown.

00:35:12.720 Um, I, I, I turned to her.

00:35:14.240 I said, okay, sweetheart,

00:35:15.300 I'm offended that you're

00:35:16.440 in this stadium right now

00:35:17.540 that you're taking the seat

00:35:18.640 of a real baseball fan.

00:35:19.800 Uh, but game five,

00:35:22.100 I took Catherine,

00:35:23.460 my youngest daughter.

00:35:24.420 Now, Catherine,

00:35:25.180 it was the day after

00:35:26.940 she had turned seven.

00:35:29.240 And, and, and it was game five.

00:35:31.420 You may remember the game

00:35:32.400 that went to one 30

00:35:33.220 in the morning.

00:35:33.860 Yeah.

00:35:34.320 It's still the greatest game

00:35:36.460 in the history of the Houston Astros.

00:35:39.100 What's interesting, Mark,

00:35:40.460 is that game.

00:35:41.720 I had no security.

00:35:43.280 It was just me and Catherine.

00:35:44.760 The two of us were dancing

00:35:46.540 and hugging and it was one 30

00:35:48.160 in the morning.

00:35:48.680 And I told her, sweetheart,

00:35:49.880 you don't appreciate this now,

00:35:51.640 but you'll tell your grandkids

00:35:53.000 you were at this game.

00:35:54.300 And I think about that now.

00:35:57.380 I, I, I go to a lot of games,

00:35:59.380 but, but now I always have

00:36:01.220 a security detail with me

00:36:02.440 because just the nature

00:36:03.480 of the threat profile,

00:36:04.640 you can't go to a game

00:36:06.500 like that without security.

00:36:08.660 2017, barely even thought about it.

00:36:10.500 That's an illustration.

00:36:11.380 And unfortunately,

00:36:12.660 that puts a real price

00:36:14.260 on the kids.

00:36:15.720 By far the worst part of the job.

00:36:17.460 One last question,

00:36:18.540 because I know you got to go.

00:36:19.600 You've run for president.

00:36:20.580 And even before then,

00:36:21.320 you were a student as I am

00:36:22.340 of what it takes to run for president.

00:36:24.460 Of all the Democrats

00:36:25.440 who are discussed

00:36:26.220 as potential 2028

00:36:27.620 presidential candidates,

00:36:28.720 who do you see

00:36:29.220 as the most formidable

00:36:30.080 to win a general election?

00:36:31.580 To win a general election.

00:36:32.880 Okay.

00:36:33.060 That's a different,

00:36:34.300 you know, obviously

00:36:34.920 you've got an iterative process.

00:36:36.980 In a primary,

00:36:38.040 I'll say this.

00:36:38.760 I think if we had,

00:36:40.560 if in 2024,

00:36:42.400 there had been an open primary,

00:36:44.040 I think the top four

00:36:45.880 on the Democrats

00:36:46.600 would have been

00:36:47.420 Kamala Harris,

00:36:49.300 Gavin Newsom,

00:36:50.320 Elizabeth Warren,

00:36:51.100 and Pete Buttigieg.

00:36:52.680 And I think in an open primary,

00:36:54.660 I actually think in 24,

00:36:56.000 Elizabeth Warren

00:36:56.660 would have won that.

00:36:57.700 And I think Elizabeth Warren

00:36:59.120 right now

00:36:59.900 is the id

00:37:01.420 of the Democrat Party.

00:37:03.080 And,

00:37:03.180 but who's,

00:37:04.240 I appreciate that,

00:37:05.100 but because I know

00:37:06.420 you got to go,

00:37:07.200 who's the most formidable

00:37:08.300 to win a general election?

00:37:09.820 Who do you look at

00:37:10.400 the way Republican Democrats

00:37:12.040 looked at George Bush

00:37:12.860 in 98 and 99

00:37:14.140 and said,

00:37:14.880 if that person's their nominee,

00:37:16.460 going to be tough to beat?

00:37:18.000 Oh, look,

00:37:18.420 someone who is more moderate

00:37:19.920 or reasonable,

00:37:20.940 so you look at names

00:37:22.300 like a Mark Kelly

00:37:23.280 or a Josh Shapiro

00:37:24.460 or an Andy Beshear,

00:37:26.200 I think they could be

00:37:27.360 formidable in a general.

00:37:29.080 I don't know that they have

00:37:29.940 a prayer of winning

00:37:30.800 a Democrat primary.

00:37:32.200 Gavin Newsom is clearly

00:37:33.460 incandescently ambitious.

00:37:36.760 So he is going to try

00:37:38.000 to morph into whatever

00:37:39.040 he thinks the Democrat

00:37:40.000 primary base wants.

00:37:41.800 I don't know that it's impossible

00:37:42.960 that AOC gets the nomination

00:37:44.720 in 2028.

00:37:46.720 I do think the id

00:37:48.420 of the Democrat Party

00:37:49.460 continues to be far left,

00:37:51.120 so I don't see them

00:37:52.460 going towards

00:37:53.600 an attractive 0.55

00:37:54.980 general election

00:37:56.600 candidate right now.

00:37:58.400 I think the crazies

00:37:59.680 are still driving the train.

00:38:01.400 All right.

00:38:01.660 The incandescently ambitious

00:38:02.820 Gavin Newsom

00:38:03.440 will be my guest on Thursday.

00:38:05.020 And your podcast and his

00:38:06.060 are ranked neck and neck.

00:38:07.460 So maybe your appearance

00:38:09.900 will push it over the top.

00:38:11.040 Senator, very, very grateful

00:38:12.360 to you for joining

00:38:13.020 and we'll continue to watch.

00:38:14.040 Congrats on the pod, Mark.

00:38:15.300 Thank you, Senator.

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00:40:20.180 When the LA wildfires broke out

00:40:27.820 and then news broke

00:40:29.560 the really important stuff

00:40:30.840 that Ben Affleck

00:40:32.540 dropped everything,

00:40:34.680 raced over to Jen Garner's house,

00:40:37.260 scooped her and the kids up

00:40:38.420 and spirited them off to safety.

00:40:40.480 I thought to myself,

00:40:41.760 how is J-Lo reacting to this news?

00:40:43.880 It cannot be well.

00:40:45.280 My second thought is

00:40:46.180 I need to call Bill

00:40:47.120 and talk to him about this

00:40:48.480 because he, like me,

00:40:51.080 loves to dive in

00:40:52.540 to the human psychology

00:40:54.440 behind these people

00:40:56.760 who otherwise present themselves

00:40:59.700 as so perfect

00:41:01.060 and rich and powerful.

00:41:03.480 And Ben Affleck

00:41:05.100 is one of our favorite talking points

00:41:06.800 since he is out promoting

00:41:07.840 his new movie,

00:41:08.480 The Accountant 2.

00:41:09.220 I thought,

00:41:10.080 what better time

00:41:10.900 to bring in Bill

00:41:11.900 and talk some Ben Affleck

00:41:15.220 and other celebrity news.

00:41:16.480 So welcome, Bill,

00:41:17.260 and thank you for doing the show.

00:41:19.580 Thank you for having me.

00:41:21.120 Let me congratulate you

00:41:22.660 on your show.

00:41:23.620 I listened to the first show

00:41:24.780 the other day.

00:41:26.080 Absolutely amazing.

00:41:27.860 Thanks, Bill.

00:41:28.780 Thank you.

00:41:29.420 Oh, my God.

00:41:30.820 So first,

00:41:31.780 I want to start off

00:41:32.600 by showing the audience

00:41:34.300 like Ben Affleck's greatest hits.

00:41:38.140 First,

00:41:38.780 we're going to look at the,

00:41:40.300 this is one of the greatest

00:41:41.340 paparazzi photos ever taken.

00:41:43.440 And were Andy Warhol still alive,

00:41:45.700 this would be a silkscreen print

00:41:47.000 that would go for millions of Christie's.

00:41:49.100 The paparazzi photo

00:41:51.400 of a fed-up Jennifer Garner 0.67

00:41:53.600 in Ray-Bans,

00:41:55.260 I think they're Ray-Bans, 1.00

00:41:56.240 driving Ben Affleck to rehab,

00:41:58.680 and he makes her stop

00:42:00.480 for Jack in the Box

00:42:01.780 or fast food.

00:42:03.260 She can't even look at him.

00:42:04.980 She is so disgusted.

00:42:06.700 She's pushing the food,

00:42:08.880 the bag of food in his face

00:42:11.480 while looking down.

00:42:13.100 This shot said everything

00:42:15.500 about their relationship.

00:42:17.280 As we know,

00:42:19.080 Ben went on to marry

00:42:20.560 the quote-unquote love of his life,

00:42:22.740 Jennifer Lopez,

00:42:24.240 who they were engaged

00:42:26.120 20 years ago.

00:42:27.680 They like to say

00:42:28.560 the media broke them up.

00:42:30.140 What really broke them up

00:42:31.140 was Ben went to a strip club

00:42:33.060 while he was shooting

00:42:34.420 a movie in Canada.

00:42:35.700 And I will never forget

00:42:36.740 the details of this story

00:42:37.760 because I remember

00:42:38.460 it was like my

00:42:39.560 JFK assassination moment.

00:42:42.140 I was on the beach

00:42:43.260 reading the National Enquirer.

00:42:45.500 It was this story

00:42:46.460 about Ben at a strip club

00:42:48.160 with his castmates

00:42:49.420 who included Christian Slater.

00:42:51.500 They were partying.

00:42:53.400 He performed a sex act

00:42:55.040 on a stripper

00:42:55.940 in the club

00:42:57.180 in front of everybody.

00:42:58.800 They all went back

00:42:59.780 to the mansion

00:43:00.320 where they were staying.

00:43:01.680 Somebody walked by

00:43:02.940 a bathroom at some point

00:43:04.160 and saw one of the strippers 0.99

00:43:05.720 shaving Christian Slater's back.

00:43:07.820 And I was like,

00:43:08.460 these are the details

00:43:09.560 that really make

00:43:10.380 a story sing, you know?

00:43:12.180 So let's take a look

00:43:13.680 at J-Lo and Ben

00:43:16.400 maybe in the first flush

00:43:18.460 of their newly rekindled romance.

00:43:21.180 They're newlyweds.

00:43:22.700 They're on the red carpet

00:43:24.080 strutting their stuff,

00:43:26.220 showing how happy they are.

00:43:27.540 Let's take a look

00:43:28.280 at some of those moments

00:43:29.360 in recent memory.

00:43:30.620 So right now,

00:43:33.160 we're looking at,

00:43:33.720 I believe this is one

00:43:34.640 of Jen's premieres.

00:43:36.580 So look at him

00:43:37.660 get in her face. 0.96

00:43:38.980 Look at, like,

00:43:39.440 he's a big guy.

00:43:40.320 This guy's like 6'3",

00:43:42.140 I think.

00:43:42.900 And it's her night

00:43:44.220 and he's getting in her face.

00:43:46.080 It's like, yeah,

00:43:47.000 you can see the name

00:43:47.960 of the movie.

00:43:48.480 It's the mother,

00:43:49.060 I think.

00:43:49.380 That was hers.

00:43:49.820 Here we are at the Grammys.

00:43:51.420 Oh, I love this one.

00:43:53.420 Ben, his best grumpy face

00:43:55.460 is on.

00:43:56.480 They don't know

00:43:57.520 the cameras are on them

00:43:58.520 and she basically elbows him

00:44:00.340 and is like,

00:44:00.760 hey, look alive.

00:44:02.780 Okay, this is her crowd,

00:44:03.840 not his.

00:44:04.260 This is her work event.

00:44:05.680 He needs to show up

00:44:06.960 and support her

00:44:07.720 and he is being such a pill.

00:44:10.420 By the way,

00:44:11.060 whenever it's one

00:44:11.520 of Ben's events,

00:44:12.880 he's always on.

00:44:13.960 Okay, now we're walking

00:44:14.960 to the car.

00:44:15.500 This is towards the end

00:44:16.260 of the relationship

00:44:16.900 and you're going to see why.

00:44:18.600 He opens the car door

00:44:19.980 for Jen,

00:44:20.980 Jennifer Garner.

00:44:21.720 Sorry, J-Lo.

00:44:22.440 I get confused.

00:44:23.560 Okay, she steps inside,

00:44:24.940 very daintily,

00:44:25.960 steps inside.

00:44:27.220 Watch the slam. 0.98

00:44:28.660 The arm,

00:44:29.400 the arm like flies up.

00:44:31.240 It's the most epic

00:44:32.480 fuck you. 0.97

00:44:33.520 He knows the cameras

00:44:34.460 are there.

00:44:34.860 He sees them.

00:44:35.500 He's talking to the paparazzi

00:44:36.640 at the end of that clip

00:44:37.540 and that, ladies,

00:44:39.400 is what it's like

00:44:40.280 to date Ben Affleck.

00:44:43.200 Bill,

00:44:44.200 your thoughts?

00:44:47.040 First thing I have to say

00:44:48.280 is I never heard

00:44:49.400 that part about

00:44:50.240 Christian Slater before.

00:44:52.320 I mean,

00:44:52.580 who gets their back

00:44:54.280 shaved by a strip?

00:44:55.020 I never heard

00:44:56.420 that one before.

00:44:57.500 Well, I mean,

00:44:57.780 it was like 4 a.m.

00:44:58.900 I mean,

00:44:59.440 imagine what it was like there.

00:45:00.780 But that's like,

00:45:01.660 who exactly,

00:45:02.520 like,

00:45:02.860 hey,

00:45:03.120 want to shave my back?

00:45:04.460 Like,

00:45:04.780 that stripper 1.00

00:45:05.360 was earning her money 0.96

00:45:06.200 that night, okay?

00:45:07.860 Anyway, go on.

00:45:09.040 The door slam,

00:45:10.600 that's just

00:45:11.320 in front of people.

00:45:13.240 I've just given up.

00:45:15.020 And it's funny,

00:45:16.460 coming from a guy

00:45:17.360 who was,

00:45:18.280 you know,

00:45:18.460 he can be a pretty good actor

00:45:20.000 depending upon the role

00:45:21.380 he's taking

00:45:21.940 and he just can't do it.

00:45:24.300 It's not there.

00:45:25.000 He's just given up.

00:45:26.140 He's given up on life

00:45:27.060 at that moment,

00:45:28.240 slamming the door

00:45:28.940 in front of everyone,

00:45:29.760 knows fully well

00:45:30.480 it's going to be

00:45:30.920 on the front page

00:45:31.640 of every paper.

00:45:33.040 Just,

00:45:33.740 I'm done.

00:45:34.540 I've given up

00:45:35.420 and here it is

00:45:36.740 for everyone to see.

00:45:38.580 Showing so much contempt

00:45:40.040 for a woman

00:45:41.400 who made an entire documentary

00:45:43.600 about how much

00:45:44.620 she loves him.

00:45:45.860 Like,

00:45:46.280 that's the thing.

00:45:47.160 Like,

00:45:47.460 don't date Ben Affleck.

00:45:49.300 There was this great story.

00:45:50.860 Well, okay,

00:45:51.240 before we get into

00:45:52.060 the latest quotes

00:45:52.960 from some insiders

00:45:55.180 who had some really juicy stuff

00:45:56.560 to share with

00:45:57.280 the New York Post,

00:45:58.460 I want to go back

00:45:59.820 to this clip

00:46:00.800 of Ben Affleck

00:46:02.060 on Howard Stern

00:46:03.660 because now he's trying

00:46:05.380 to win back

00:46:06.060 Jennifer Garner.

00:46:07.160 He has been leaking

00:46:08.000 that he would

00:46:08.720 take her back 0.95

00:46:09.580 in a heartbeat

00:46:10.060 if she would have him.

00:46:11.560 This woman is in 0.87

00:46:12.200 a seven-year relationship

00:46:13.140 with another man.

00:46:14.600 But this was Ben

00:46:16.100 on Stern

00:46:18.300 about like two years ago

00:46:19.820 talking about

00:46:21.060 why he had

00:46:22.620 such a problem

00:46:23.820 with alcohol.

00:46:25.120 We'll probably

00:46:25.600 at each other's toes.

00:46:26.340 I'd probably still be drinking.

00:46:27.660 You know,

00:46:28.060 like,

00:46:28.280 it was part of why

00:46:29.400 I started drinking alcohol

00:46:31.220 because I was trapped.

00:46:33.180 So, Bill,

00:46:34.500 you've been married

00:46:36.460 for a while now.

00:46:38.160 You're coming up

00:46:38.900 on your 12-year anniversary.

00:46:40.400 So,

00:46:40.740 congratulations on that.

00:46:41.860 let's say,

00:46:44.840 God forbid,

00:46:46.140 you split up

00:46:47.480 with your wife.

00:46:49.100 Would you tell

00:46:50.400 anyone,

00:46:52.640 let alone

00:46:53.180 Howard Stern,

00:46:54.400 that your lovely wife

00:46:56.740 drove you to drink?

00:46:59.260 I mean,

00:47:00.140 I don't,

00:47:00.840 I don't understand

00:47:01.600 how you even

00:47:03.000 discuss it

00:47:03.800 publicly.

00:47:05.080 It's,

00:47:05.700 it's so private,

00:47:07.080 right?

00:47:07.220 That's one of,

00:47:08.120 you know,

00:47:08.360 that would be,

00:47:09.820 I would assume

00:47:10.760 what you consider

00:47:11.860 your greatest

00:47:12.320 personal failure

00:47:13.180 and you would want to,

00:47:14.660 and I would assume

00:47:15.780 the marriage ending,

00:47:16.880 not the alcoholism.

00:47:18.160 Right,

00:47:18.360 no,

00:47:18.560 not the alcoholism.

00:47:19.400 No,

00:47:19.580 that's,

00:47:19.900 that's a struggle

00:47:20.380 that people face

00:47:21.140 all the time.

00:47:21.780 But to blame that

00:47:23.240 on the mother

00:47:24.000 of your children,

00:47:24.980 publicly put that

00:47:26.060 out there

00:47:26.580 for all to see

00:47:28.800 for eternity.

00:47:29.780 They're going to see it

00:47:30.660 over and over again.

00:47:32.380 It just,

00:47:33.180 you know,

00:47:33.580 to me,

00:47:33.900 it goes to

00:47:34.580 show the level

00:47:36.460 of selfishness

00:47:37.480 and,

00:47:37.900 and just self-importance

00:47:39.700 that he has

00:47:40.720 clearly doesn't,

00:47:42.560 I mean,

00:47:42.800 he banged a nanny.

00:47:43.760 He clearly doesn't think

00:47:44.700 about it.

00:47:45.020 Allegedly,

00:47:45.620 allegedly.

00:47:46.740 She did get a drop-top

00:47:48.620 Lexi out of it,

00:47:50.080 Alexis,

00:47:50.540 which she told us about.

00:47:52.440 But he's always

00:47:53.760 denied that.

00:47:54.780 But go on.

00:47:56.320 Allegedly,

00:47:56.880 my mistake.

00:47:58.540 Yeah,

00:47:59.000 I mean,

00:47:59.500 you know,

00:48:00.900 bring that back

00:48:02.240 to the,

00:48:02.680 to the pictures

00:48:03.280 with Jennifer Lopez

00:48:04.140 on a big night for her

00:48:05.220 and he's,

00:48:06.140 you know,

00:48:06.340 where she's elbowing

00:48:07.240 him to smile.

00:48:08.060 I mean,

00:48:08.380 a person that can't

00:48:10.260 even put a smile

00:48:10.980 out there,

00:48:11.760 it,

00:48:13.220 I don't know.

00:48:14.140 I don't know

00:48:14.620 what goes on

00:48:15.340 inside someone

00:48:16.780 like that,

00:48:17.560 like in his head.

00:48:19.340 I,

00:48:19.520 I can't place it.

00:48:21.100 There are times

00:48:21.700 where you see

00:48:22.240 he looks like

00:48:23.340 a great guy.

00:48:24.220 He's out there

00:48:24.860 smiling.

00:48:25.960 He can be very charismatic.

00:48:27.580 He's a great looking guy.

00:48:29.020 He's had some great movies.

00:48:31.140 But then you see

00:48:32.520 these awful moments.

00:48:34.700 That's why he's

00:48:35.520 so fascinating

00:48:36.480 because I am also

00:48:38.020 a fan of his.

00:48:38.960 Like,

00:48:39.100 I may sound like I'm not,

00:48:40.040 but I am.

00:48:41.120 For a long time,

00:48:42.260 I had a huge

00:48:43.020 shame crush

00:48:43.800 on Ben Affleck.

00:48:44.700 but he,

00:48:46.600 like one of my,

00:48:47.540 so I love The Town.

00:48:48.920 I think that's

00:48:49.300 an incredible movie.

00:48:50.280 I thought he did

00:48:50.820 an incredible job

00:48:51.720 with Argo.

00:48:52.360 I love that movie.

00:48:53.700 He also did

00:48:54.440 one of the greatest

00:48:55.180 DVD commentaries

00:48:56.420 of all time

00:48:58.320 for Armageddon.

00:48:59.380 I asked Michael

00:49:00.340 why it was easier

00:49:01.440 to train

00:49:02.180 oil drillers

00:49:03.460 to become astronauts

00:49:04.260 than it was

00:49:04.720 to train astronauts

00:49:05.480 to become oil drillers

00:49:06.540 and he told me

00:49:07.340 to shut the fuck up. 1.00

00:49:09.720 So that was

00:49:10.520 the end of that talk.

00:49:11.920 He was like,

00:49:12.180 you know, Ben,

00:49:12.660 just shut up, okay?

00:49:14.360 You know,

00:49:14.640 this is a real plan,

00:49:15.680 all right?

00:49:16.960 I was like,

00:49:17.360 you mean it's a real plan

00:49:18.540 at NASA

00:49:19.140 to train oil drillers?

00:49:20.800 He was like,

00:49:21.060 just shut your mouth. 0.95

00:49:21.920 And it was so funny

00:49:23.420 and you can see

00:49:24.380 how this guy

00:49:25.240 would be such

00:49:26.260 a sparkling conversationalist.

00:49:28.580 He displayed

00:49:29.280 like self-awareness

00:49:30.400 and self-deprecation

00:49:31.500 and he pointed something out

00:49:33.300 that is painfully obvious

00:49:34.760 about a movie

00:49:35.780 that kind of put him

00:49:36.760 on the map

00:49:37.220 as a matinee idol,

00:49:38.640 shows he has intelligence

00:49:39.740 and then he does

00:49:41.260 stuff like this.

00:49:44.240 Yeah, it's,

00:49:45.420 you go back to just,

00:49:47.940 you know,

00:49:48.260 the self-importance

00:49:49.260 piece of it.

00:49:50.360 It's just,

00:49:50.700 he has to

00:49:52.200 put himself

00:49:53.320 out there publicly.

00:49:54.240 There's,

00:49:54.500 I think there's

00:49:54.980 a public image

00:49:55.820 that he is so

00:49:56.880 concerned with.

00:49:58.700 And I think,

00:49:59.980 you know,

00:50:00.380 maybe to a degree,

00:50:01.540 part of that door slamming

00:50:02.820 with Jennifer Lopez

00:50:03.920 was,

00:50:04.660 you know,

00:50:05.560 the masculinity part

00:50:06.560 where he couldn't be viewed

00:50:08.180 as the weaker person

00:50:09.880 in the relationship,

00:50:10.800 the one without the power.

00:50:12.120 So that was a public display

00:50:13.780 of,

00:50:14.920 it may look like

00:50:15.780 she's running things,

00:50:16.540 but I'm tired of her crap 1.00

00:50:17.680 and here it is

00:50:18.860 for everybody to see.

00:50:20.700 Yes.

00:50:21.880 Yes.

00:50:22.620 I want to,

00:50:23.540 I want to read this quote

00:50:24.880 before we go into our theory

00:50:26.200 as to why Ben cut and run

00:50:27.640 so quickly with J-Lo

00:50:28.560 because his usual MO

00:50:30.120 is to force the woman 1.00

00:50:32.100 in his life

00:50:32.700 into leaving him

00:50:33.520 by treating her like shit. 0.79

00:50:35.720 So this is a quote

00:50:37.300 from someone who knows Affleck

00:50:41.360 in this,

00:50:42.380 it was this incredible story

00:50:43.580 in the New York Post.

00:50:44.600 It was like a Sunday,

00:50:45.440 great, juicy read.

00:50:46.420 Quote,

00:50:47.500 the dirty secret

00:50:48.480 is that he,

00:50:49.540 Ben,

00:50:50.360 he's the diva.

00:50:52.180 He's the one

00:50:53.020 who likes attention

00:50:53.840 and calls the paps

00:50:54.820 and manipulates women.

00:50:56.160 He love bombs you

00:50:57.520 and once he's got you,

00:50:59.560 he gets bored

00:51:00.400 and leaves.

00:51:01.060 It's cruel.

00:51:02.200 And anyone who remembers

00:51:03.620 what he did,

00:51:05.380 so this guy,

00:51:06.220 again,

00:51:06.440 we're promoting a movie

00:51:07.340 and he loves,

00:51:08.460 his favorite thing

00:51:09.080 is to love to run around

00:51:09.960 and say,

00:51:10.460 I have no idea

00:51:11.080 why everybody's so fascinated

00:51:11.980 with my private life.

00:51:12.900 Like,

00:51:13.200 nothing,

00:51:14.020 nothing to see here.

00:51:15.720 Ana de Armas,

00:51:16.540 this up-and-coming starlet

00:51:18.480 at the time,

00:51:19.180 she's building a nice career

00:51:20.160 for herself,

00:51:21.700 left him

00:51:22.580 and he had one

00:51:24.280 of his children,

00:51:25.920 by the way,

00:51:26.260 again,

00:51:26.380 we all know

00:51:26.660 what their children look like.

00:51:27.580 I shouldn't really know

00:51:28.540 what they look like,

00:51:29.120 I think.

00:51:29.800 He had one of his children

00:51:30.880 take a life-size

00:51:32.400 cardboard cutout

00:51:33.740 of Ana de Armas

00:51:34.820 and dump it

00:51:36.260 in his trash containers

00:51:37.860 in full view

00:51:38.860 of the paparazzi.

00:51:39.720 Nothing to see here.

00:51:43.860 Okay,

00:51:44.200 so the ditty of it all,

00:51:46.020 because we're going

00:51:46.320 to get into ditty as well,

00:51:48.300 share your theory, Bill,

00:51:49.980 as to why Ben Affleck

00:51:51.500 chose a moment

00:51:52.960 in which Jennifer Lopez

00:51:55.040 was in Europe

00:51:55.780 to flee the $65 million

00:51:57.920 marital home

00:51:58.980 in the metaphorical

00:51:59.900 dead of night

00:52:00.580 and move into

00:52:01.960 a $20 million rental

00:52:03.260 closer to,

00:52:04.240 who else?

00:52:05.480 Jen Garner.

00:52:06.120 To go back

00:52:10.600 to the comment

00:52:11.340 you made earlier,

00:52:11.980 allegedly,

00:52:12.880 I thought,

00:52:13.420 you know,

00:52:13.600 I don't,

00:52:14.000 just a wild theory.

00:52:15.840 You don't run off

00:52:17.060 in the middle of the night

00:52:17.840 for no reason.

00:52:18.680 There's something

00:52:19.440 that scares you into it.

00:52:21.500 If I'm not mistaken,

00:52:22.860 right about that time,

00:52:23.860 there were reports,

00:52:26.060 rumors surfacing

00:52:26.980 of a female

00:52:28.800 A-list superstar

00:52:30.240 who may have

00:52:32.240 been witness to,

00:52:34.560 partaken in

00:52:35.300 some of the freak-offs

00:52:36.660 and might have,

00:52:39.500 you know,

00:52:40.160 know where some

00:52:40.860 of the bodies

00:52:41.300 are buried,

00:52:41.740 so to speak.

00:52:43.800 It's a scary thing

00:52:44.860 to be involved with.

00:52:46.260 I'm sure there are

00:52:47.240 a lot of people

00:52:47.920 out there right now

00:52:48.780 that would love

00:52:50.000 to remain nameless

00:52:50.940 and faceless

00:52:51.600 through this whole trial.

00:52:53.960 I couldn't agree

00:52:54.960 with you more.

00:52:55.980 I think that,

00:52:57.820 because it so goes

00:52:58.900 against his normal ways,

00:53:00.300 we just spoke about

00:53:01.180 of exiting a relationship.

00:53:02.780 Like, he got the F

00:53:04.400 out of there.

00:53:05.640 He, and he never does that.

00:53:07.200 And then,

00:53:07.420 so in this new

00:53:08.360 GQ interview,

00:53:11.200 he's on the cover,

00:53:12.640 this cover story,

00:53:13.580 and he's like super,

00:53:15.060 like they've sort of

00:53:15.700 made him look like

00:53:16.340 kind of a Bob Evans

00:53:17.260 super producer

00:53:17.940 Hollywood type.

00:53:19.040 The first question

00:53:20.000 in this profile

00:53:21.480 is,

00:53:22.480 speaking of tabloids,

00:53:23.980 the FBI visited

00:53:24.920 your house.

00:53:25.460 And he gives this,

00:53:26.760 like, lengthy run-on

00:53:28.660 explanation,

00:53:29.380 which has two

00:53:30.380 different reasons

00:53:31.240 as to why the FBI

00:53:32.640 showed up

00:53:33.780 at his personal residence.

00:53:36.560 And none of it

00:53:37.740 really makes any sense.

00:53:39.880 And I think

00:53:40.960 there's probably

00:53:41.560 only one reason

00:53:42.400 the feds would show up

00:53:43.480 at Ben Affleck's house

00:53:44.880 with everything

00:53:45.760 that's going on.

00:53:46.980 Am I crazy?

00:53:48.660 My favorite part

00:53:49.560 of that story

00:53:50.120 was Ben Affleck

00:53:51.320 had to call the FBI

00:53:52.780 to find out

00:53:53.360 why they were there.

00:53:54.400 I mean...

00:53:54.700 Oh my God.

00:53:55.440 That was amazing.

00:53:56.780 That was amazing.

00:53:58.740 I don't know

00:53:59.360 how one knows

00:54:00.220 to call the FBI

00:54:01.140 or how to get

00:54:02.380 in contact with them.

00:54:03.400 I mean,

00:54:03.540 do you Google them?

00:54:04.220 Do you have

00:54:04.500 a direct line?

00:54:05.120 I don't know.

00:54:06.920 That is amazing.

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