The Megyn Kelly Show - Media and Left Botch Gaza Hospital Story, and Campus Anti-Semitism Grows, with Buck Sexton and Dennis Prager ｜ Ep. 650

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00:00:31.000 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.520 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.680 A story that has been incredibly difficult to tell is getting even more challenging today

00:00:49.860 as the fog of war and, to put it kindly, irresponsible reporting

00:00:56.200 leads to chaos, violence, and canceled diplomatic meetings that actually could have helped prevent

00:01:01.920 more death and destruction. Shortly after this show ended yesterday, we started seeing reports

00:01:07.300 about a hospital bombing inside of Gaza. The news was devastating. Video posted by The New York Times

00:01:14.540 the news showing the moment of impact.

00:01:25.540 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:01:31.540 Claims from the Palestinians and their media enablers were that hundreds of people had been

00:01:44.260 killed, children hurt. The Palestinians said Israel was responsible. And almost without question,

00:01:52.800 the media and politicians on the left in particular took the news and ran with it.

00:01:58.120 This is just a small sampling of the headlines in the social media posts.

00:02:02.720 The BBC, hundreds killed in Israeli strike on Gaza hospital, Palestinians officials citing them.

00:02:10.860 CNN, Palestinian health ministry says 200 to 300 people may have been killed in an Israeli strike

00:02:17.040 on hospital in Gaza. New York Times not to be outdone. Israeli strike kills hundreds in hospital,

00:02:24.700 Palestinians say. The Times would later amend that headline to take out Israel, like on the fourth

00:02:30.620 try, third or fourth. Al Jazeera English, Israeli air attacks have killed hundreds of Palestinians in

00:02:37.640 hospital in Gaza City, where thousands are seeking medical treatment and shelter. And then

00:02:43.220 there are other politicians, including, of course, squad member Rashida Tlaib. You can always count

00:02:49.820 on the Congresswoman to show restraint. Israel just bombed, she tweeted, the Baptist hospital,

00:02:57.020 killing 500 Palestinians, doctors, children, patients, just like that. At POTUS, meaning president, 0.58

00:03:05.260 this is what happens when you refuse to facilitate a ceasefire and help deescalate.

00:03:09.720 Your war and destruction only approach has opened my eyes and many Palestinian Americans

00:03:15.280 and Muslim Americans like me will remember where you stood. Remember, this is the same person who

00:03:23.020 kept her mouth noticeably shut, repeatedly refusing to condemn the murders of Israeli babies by Hamas

00:03:32.320 terrorists. Remember when the Fox News reporter got in her face over and over? She couldn't muster

00:03:37.780 one word of sympathy. A similar, if slightly subdued message was also put out by her pal,

00:03:45.940 Ilan Omar, as she says, IDF reportedly blew up the hospital. Now, the Israelis issued a statement

00:03:54.500 initially saying, in part, that the IDF was investigating and wanted to prioritize accuracy.

00:04:00.520 So at this point, a responsible journalist might say, let's take a step back, wait for more. But the

00:04:06.080 seeds had already been sown, and man, were they dangerous. The people who hate Israel took the lack

00:04:12.360 of an immediate denial as an admission of guilt, or perhaps they just wanted to believe it. Never mind

00:04:19.340 that about two hours later, the IDF released its security assessment after reviewing all the facts

00:04:25.360 saying a barrage of rockets were fired by terrorists inside Gaza toward Israel. They passed in close

00:04:34.040 proximity to the hospital at the time that hospital was hit. Israel understood quite early this came

00:04:42.540 from Gaza. It came from the Palestinian side. Videos were released. Surveillance footage appearing to show

00:04:50.500 a large barrage of rockets being launched from northern Gaza at Israel. By the way, this was an attempt to kill

00:04:57.160 civilians, Israeli civilians, followed by a massive blast on the Gaza side. Another video here and what the IDF

00:05:05.460 says is raw video showing a rocket aimed at Israel misfiring and exploding at the same moment the hospital

00:05:14.060 was hit. Look at that. In fact, one video was actually airing on Al Jazeera. It was broadcast live,

00:05:26.240 appearing to show a failed rocket launch at the same time of the hospital attack. You can see it. You

00:05:33.600 can see the missile explode and go off course. Then you can see the hospital explosion. So that's the

00:05:40.720 assessment. But there's more. An IDF spokesman also came out and said it wasn't even Hamas that fired

00:05:49.720 this rocket. It was Islamic Jihad, which is another armed group inside of Gaza. Watch this.

00:05:57.540 I can confirm that an analysis of the IDF operational systems indicates that a barrage of rockets was fired

00:06:05.600 by terrorists in Gaza, passing in close proximity to the Al-Hali al-Ma'adi hospital in Gaza at the time it was hit.

00:06:14.820 Intelligence from few sources that we have in our hands indicates that the Islamic Jihad is

00:06:22.460 responsible for the failed rocket launch which hit the hospital in Gaza. I repeat, this is the

00:06:29.180 responsibility of Islamic Jihad that killed innocents in the hospital in Gaza.

00:06:34.880 We should say here Islamic Jihad is denying Israel's claims, saying it had no operations in the area.

00:06:42.740 Weird. Where did all those rockets come from? Because we see them. Israel has released what it 0.81

00:06:47.560 says now is a roughly one minute intercepted call between two Hamas operatives who discussed the

00:06:55.160 rocket that landed on the Gaza hospital. We have voiced over the translated part of that call. Listen.

00:07:02.160 I am telling you, this is the first time that we see a missile like this falling.

00:07:08.360 And so that's why we are saying it belongs to the Palestinian Islamic.

00:07:11.760 What?

00:07:12.820 They are saying it belongs to Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

00:07:17.100 It's from us?

00:07:18.580 It looks like it.

00:07:19.940 Who says this?

00:07:21.440 They are saying that the shrapnel from the missile is local shrapnel and not like Israeli shrapnel.

00:07:26.340 I mean, you're not going to get closer to a smoking gun than that.

00:07:33.140 Folks responding online to the IDF's account refuse to believe this is real, of course.

00:07:38.840 Last night, President Biden released a statement that said, in part, I'm outraged and deeply saddened

00:07:43.380 by the explosion at the hospital in Gaza and the terrible loss of life that resulted and have

00:07:47.660 directed my national security team to continuing gathering to continue gathering information about

00:07:52.120 what exactly happened.

00:07:54.440 The president was already wheels up en route to Israel when we learned that a planned meeting

00:07:59.880 he had in Jordan was suddenly off.

00:08:03.080 So much for diplomacy.

00:08:04.500 Done.

00:08:05.220 Good job, Palestinians. 1.00

00:08:07.060 Good job, Islamic Jihad. 1.00

00:08:08.720 You got what you wanted.

00:08:10.360 Meantime, Hezbollah declared that today they're up in, of course, Lebanon and they hate Israel

00:08:15.780 as much as Hamas does. 0.86

00:08:17.200 And they've declared that today, the day of President Biden's visit, should be a, quote,

00:08:23.200 an unprecedented day of anger, unprecedented day of anger against Israel.

00:08:28.080 But no need to wait until Wednesday.

00:08:30.320 Rage was already unfolding in the wake of this allegation that it was Israel.

00:08:35.260 And the media enablers reports that it was Israel killing 500 civilians in a hospital,

00:08:41.500 helpless civilians at the evil Israeli's hand that led to this scene, these scenes around 0.85

00:08:49.700 the globe.

00:08:50.260 You get it.

00:09:07.140 Those were scenes from Amman, Jordan.

00:09:09.500 Protesters taking to the streets, trying to gain access to the Israeli embassy.

00:09:14.200 Security forces managing to push them back.

00:09:16.560 Now to Turkey, where a large crowd gathered near the Israeli consulate.

00:09:21.020 Watch.

00:09:29.880 Look at the numbers.

00:09:36.000 Police had to prevent protesters from storming the consulate.

00:09:39.200 Israel has now told its citizens to get out of that country.

00:09:42.360 In probably one of the most disturbing scenes, protesters outside of the U.S. embassy in Beirut,

00:09:48.680 Lebanon, raising the Palestinian flag alongside the flag of Hamas outside of our facility.

00:09:56.520 Watch this.

00:09:56.920 Following those protests, the U.S.

00:10:24.440 State Department authorized a voluntary departure from Lebanon of Americans working for the embassy,

00:10:29.880 along with their families.

00:10:31.520 Over in Iran, this is just stunning tape.

00:10:35.200 A massive crowd developed outside of the British and French embassies in Tehran. 0.98

00:10:40.120 The protesters chanting death to Israel, death to France, death to England, death to all the Westerners. 0.85

00:11:03.060 They burned Israeli flags and threw eggs at the wall of the French embassy. 0.99

00:11:06.600 In Toronto, Canada, pro-Hamas crowds actually chanted for the decapitation of Israelis.

00:11:14.680 They're chanting off with their heads, what in the actual F?

00:11:32.760 Meantime, here at home in New York City, protesters burned the Jewish state's Star of David flag and celebrated.

00:11:40.640 I'm sorry, but that that Allahu Akbar makes my skin crawl. 0.99

00:11:57.100 It makes my skin crawl.

00:11:59.080 This is what you hear before they kill innocent civilians.

00:12:02.280 This is their rallying cry when they're burning things and calling for beheadings.

00:12:06.000 It makes my skin crawl.

00:12:09.040 At one point, the pro-Palestinian protesters screamed, you bombed a hospital, which, okay, no. 0.95

00:12:16.620 And counter protesters supporting Israel screamed back at them, terrorists.

00:12:21.240 Overnight, Israel also released what it says is footage from the area before and after the rocket launch.

00:12:26.660 This is important.

00:12:27.300 President Biden said it appears the scene of the fire was not even the hospital.

00:12:33.300 It was a parking lot near the hospital, saying there are no visible craters, unlike the damage caused by an IDF ordinance.

00:12:42.320 President Biden is now in Israel.

00:12:44.900 He's meeting with leaders, including Benjamin Netanyahu, and this morning had this to say.

00:12:49.520 I was deeply saddened and outraged by the explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday.

00:12:56.580 And based on what I've seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you.

00:13:03.240 But there's a lot of people out there not sure.

00:13:06.140 So we've got to overcome a lot of things.

00:13:09.700 They're not sure.

00:13:10.660 Why are they not sure?

00:13:12.120 Why?

00:13:12.460 Because the media took the Hamas claim that Israel did it and killed 500 suffering civilians and ran with it, ran with it.

00:13:23.000 President Biden expected to speak by phone with the Egyptian and the Palestinian leaders who canceled on him as he headed out to the Middle East.

00:13:31.720 In the meantime, the fighting continues.

00:13:34.520 And Israel is said to be amassing some tens of thousands of soldiers preparing for a possible ground invasion into Gaza.

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00:14:12.040 Joining me now, Buck Sexton, co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton show.

00:14:16.420 Buck, in addition to his media accomplishments, is a former CIA guy and understands these things on an important level.

00:14:24.140 Buck, this is dark.

00:14:25.400 This is, I mean, things are getting, it's a powder keg right now in these Arab countries, which don't give a damn about after the fact corrections or daytime pictures showing it was a parking lot. 1.00

00:14:41.700 Hundreds are not dead.

00:14:42.780 And oh, by the way, it was Islamic Jihad, not the Israelis.

00:14:46.120 Yeah, the truth doesn't matter to the so-called Arab street when it comes to incidents like this and anything that involves the Israelis.

00:14:56.100 They believe what they want to believe, and they've been essentially trained, you could argue, even brainwashed by their own media and some of their own regimes, depending on which Middle Eastern country we're talking about, to blame a whole range of things on the Israelis.

00:15:11.340 The conspiracy theories stretching back for, well, longer than I've been alive in the Middle East about Israel are widely believed.

00:15:22.240 And what you have here, I think, is a situation where there's a desperate attempt to try to create some immediate moral equivalency between Israel and Hamas, given that Hamas just murdered 1,400 people.

00:15:38.060 I mean, it wasn't a military operation.

00:15:40.020 It was a terrorist attack. 0.68

00:15:41.280 They just decided to kill as many civilians as they possibly could.

00:15:45.420 So this is a moment of, I think, clarity for the world.

00:15:49.660 I do think this is civilization versus barbarism.

00:15:53.260 But you're also seeing the depths of the anti-Semitism that exists in the Middle East and around the world, for that matter, and the desire on the part of the Western media as well, not just sort of, you know, Arab satellite TV.

00:16:07.360 Nobody to find some reason to look at Israel and say, you know, you're on a similar moral plane to Hamas or look at what you do here. 0.65

00:16:17.020 They jumped on this.

00:16:18.440 It was all based on Hamas sourcing initially, and that should have been the first red flag. 0.98

00:16:24.920 Also, if Israel wanted to blow up hospitals in Gaza, it could blow up all the hospitals in Gaza in a matter of minutes.

00:16:33.320 There's nothing that they would be able to do to stop it.

00:16:35.700 In fact, they could blow up all the buildings in Gaza if they wanted to. 0.96

00:16:39.220 They're trying to do strikes against Hamas and Hamas militants and leadership.

00:16:42.920 There is no reason it's implausible that the Israelis in the opening moments before they've even got the ground invasion going would hit one of the most sensitive civilian targets in all of Gaza City. 0.60

00:16:55.000 But the media ran with it and they ran with it because of their own ideological biases.

00:16:58.640 It's absolutely chilling.

00:17:03.160 It's one thing to sort of put your thumb on the scale and get it a little wrong your way.

00:17:08.800 We're used to the CNNs of the world doing that, not to mention BBC and so on.

00:17:13.420 This is something entirely different.

00:17:15.280 I mean, this this is a dereliction of duty that's going to cost lives.

00:17:19.820 They took an already powder keg to region and lit lit a match.

00:17:26.520 And there's there's almost no accountability for it.

00:17:28.920 Even the corrections that we're now seeing today are quiet and don't acknowledge the previously wrong reporting explicitly.

00:17:35.340 It's the quiet scrubbing of the wrong headline and replacing it with one that's closer to right.

00:17:41.200 Meanwhile, these citizens are our staffs at the U.S. Embassy in Beirut and the consulate.

00:17:48.980 Our the Israelis staffs at these consulates and embassies throughout the world, not to mention actual Israelis in our country and elsewhere are in real danger as a result of all of this.

00:18:00.180 Well, absolutely.

00:18:01.480 I mean, there's a there's a recklessness to this kind of reporting.

00:18:05.660 And you're seeing that, I think, with the further inflamed tensions in different cities around the world where people are obviously deeply passionate about this issue.

00:18:17.380 I mean, one thing that I that hasn't changed, you know, Megan, I actually started my national security career, if you will, working in Middle East policy think tanks when I was in college.

00:18:31.120 And I spent a summer working for Clinton's negotiator for the Camp David Accords, Ambassador Dennis Ross, as a researcher.

00:18:38.860 So this was my my first experience with all of this stretching back now.

00:18:44.020 Well, over 20 years was what was then called Arab Israeli conflict.

00:18:47.220 Now people usually say Israeli Palestinian.

00:18:49.140 And what you see is that the narratives haven't changed at all.

00:18:54.160 The sentiment hasn't changed at all.

00:18:55.920 You have a lot of Middle Eastern countries use this issue and a lot of Islamic communities around the world use this issue both as an excuse for anti-Semitism and also as an excuse for their own failures as states.

00:19:11.300 Speaking specifically in the Middle Eastern context, they all pretend to care so much. 0.99

00:19:15.920 There's these endless lamentations on behalf of the Palestinians in moments like this.

00:19:20.800 But what you also see is what have those states been doing?

00:19:23.980 I mean, Gaza is is a is a desperately poor and nasty place to live. 1.00

00:19:31.140 It has been for many years.

00:19:32.800 All these countries, all these places where there are protests, you'd want to ask, where were these regimes, where were these individuals, these groups trying to do anything to help the Palestinian people beforehand?

00:19:43.100 No, it's when it's useful for their hatred of Israel and Jews that all of a sudden you see this massive increase in concern for the Palestinians.

00:19:53.520 You have all these other regional actors decide, oh, my gosh, well, Israel needs to be proportionate.

00:20:00.560 Israel can't overreact, overreact.

00:20:03.680 I mean, I remember what it was like after 9-11.

00:20:05.560 I joined the CIA because of 9-11.

00:20:08.720 People walking around saying you better not overreact.

00:20:11.920 We were looking at them like we're going to war because that's the reaction that this demands.

00:20:17.220 And that's exactly the mentality of the Israeli people as it should be right now.

00:20:21.600 So they're putting these artificial constraints, this idea that that the Israelis are going to be able to fight a battle against a terrorist entity that isn't going to have any civilian casualties, that isn't going to cause any humanitarian issues.

00:20:36.580 That's absurd. It's impossible.

00:20:38.460 But it's also entirely necessary that Israel go in. 0.80

00:20:41.700 And this time it's different.

00:20:43.720 They're not just trying to punish Hamas and say, stop it. 0.58

00:20:47.180 If you don't, you know, if you don't knock this off, we're going to blow up all your arms caches. 0.78

00:20:50.760 We're going to come after your leadership.

00:20:53.180 I think this time around it has to be a war of Hamas elimination, meaning destroying it as an entity, making it effectively so enfeebled that it can no longer threaten the state of Israel. 0.92

00:21:04.420 So that's the escalation from the Israeli side.

00:21:07.400 And it's deserved.

00:21:08.740 It's necessary.

00:21:10.660 I want to get to the military aspect of this in one minute.

00:21:13.500 But let's spend another minute first on the ne'er-do-wells who spread this lie and so far are sticking by it in many cases.

00:21:22.780 Rashida Tlaib.

00:21:23.940 I mean, the absolute worst.

00:21:25.460 I read the tweet.

00:21:27.200 Israel just bombed this hospital, killing 500 Palestinians just like that.

00:21:31.640 That's a lie.

00:21:32.820 None of that appears to be correct.

00:21:34.300 It wasn't an Israeli bomb.

00:21:35.380 And it doesn't look like 500 Palestinians died at all.

00:21:38.480 Doctors, children, patient.

00:21:39.660 No, it does not appear that that's the case.

00:21:41.440 It's still up.

00:21:43.020 She hasn't taken it down.

00:21:44.260 This isn't some tweeter.

00:21:47.060 This is an elected U.S. congressperson.

00:21:49.540 This person actually has a hand in saying what the laws and the U.S. policy will be around issues like this.

00:21:55.760 And, in fact, she was retweeting somebody as her evidence about, oh, Israel's own spokesperson admitted they did it.

00:22:03.980 And the person she's pointing to as Israel's spokesperson is some online influencer who is not an Israeli spokesperson at all.

00:22:10.640 This is her.

00:22:11.500 Like, it's chilling.

00:22:13.920 And it comes, obviously, from her hatred for Israel.

00:22:17.460 Then you've got the L.A. Times, Adam El-Marek, who's truly one of the worst.

00:22:22.580 I mean, he, this guy, he's, I feel like he's two steps away from just tweeting out in Arabic.

00:22:30.300 He continued to tweet all last night.

00:22:33.420 Remember the following.

00:22:34.700 Israeli denials often fall apart.

00:22:37.720 Hamas's bombs don't usually cause this much damage.

00:22:41.460 It's important to report that.

00:22:43.120 You're not doing it right unless you report that.

00:22:45.720 OK, did did you think to pause and ask yourself, is that much damage accurate?

00:22:53.720 Is the damage that we're being told was done by Hamas accurate?

00:22:57.560 Adam, would you like to wait and find out?

00:22:59.680 Then he says the burden is on Israel to demonstrate its extraordinary claim that it was a Hamas rocket.

00:23:05.560 Some that this that a Hamas rocket, which usually kills maybe one at a time, somehow leveled a hospital.

00:23:10.640 Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

00:23:12.620 This isn't all that difficult, folks.

00:23:13.920 Now they've released actual audio tape of Hamas saying it was Islamic Jihad launching this rocket.

00:23:22.320 Has this guy come out and said, my God, they actually did release very clear evidence that it was Islamic Jihad?

00:23:29.560 No, no, he hasn't.

00:23:31.820 All he said is, oh, in the light of day, it appears that they had a parking lot.

00:23:35.760 That's it.

00:23:36.560 That's all.

00:23:37.700 This is so dishonest and dangerous, Buck.

00:23:39.880 Well, they wanted to use it in the moment, and it doesn't matter to the people who ran with it as an attack, as a cudgel, a weapon to bludgeon the Israelis' reputation with. 0.84

00:23:56.540 It doesn't matter that it was false to them.

00:23:57.960 They don't care.

00:23:58.880 I mean, we often see this even with far more minor reports of terrorist attacks, let's say in the U.S.

00:24:06.600 You know, they'll they'll say we can never know the motives if they're concerned that it's, you know, a jihadist, a Muslim conducting an attack.

00:24:15.100 If they think that it's possibly a white guy who's a Republican, they run with that right away.

00:24:21.420 And it doesn't matter when they have to change the story later on.

00:24:24.100 Right. Meaning that if they have an opening to try to effectively jump to a conclusion that's useful politically to defame a whole group of people.

00:24:35.920 Right. It's it's always about, oh, it's not just this person.

00:24:38.360 It's all of them.

00:24:39.540 So in this instance, it's not that Israel made a mistake. 0.99

00:24:41.820 It's the Israelis are bad. 1.00

00:24:43.120 That's the whole notion that they were trying to push by running with this right away. 0.63

00:24:48.660 And and they still feel entirely entirely justified in a making because they've already convinced themselves that Israel here is the really bad actor that to understand the true toxicity of the leftist thinking around all things Palestine.

00:25:04.060 You have to know that they blame the Israelis for everything, meaning every action that the Palestinians or that Hamas or Palestinian Islamic Jihad or Hezbollah or any of these groups take is the fault of the Israelis in the minds of these people.

00:25:19.140 Right. So no matter what Hamas does, it is Israel's fault. 0.89

00:25:22.960 That is the basic formulation that a lot of people on the left, in the media, around the world, including here in America, including here in Congress, approach these issues with.

00:25:32.620 So. It isn't about accuracy, because to them, there's a greater truth.

00:25:37.180 The truth about who actually bombed this hospital, right, you know, isn't isn't what's relevant to them.

00:25:43.260 The greater truth is that Israel is the bad actor. 0.99

00:25:45.480 You're Israel is the bad guy. 1.00

00:25:46.560 That's what they really believe.

00:25:47.940 And anything that goes to that is therefore to be reported and pushed as fast and as far as possible.

00:25:54.560 And then the cleanup is nothing. Just forget it.

00:25:57.960 Oh, mistakes happen.

00:25:59.600 It's like directionally accurate directionally.

00:26:03.200 You know what we all agree. Israel's the bad guy. 1.00

00:26:05.860 If we make a few errant, you know, mistakes in getting us there.

00:26:09.720 So be it just a little bit more color on the reporting.

00:26:14.360 And also just this in this this just in from The New York Times.

00:26:18.040 President Biden, we played you the sound by saying it appears to be the other team who launched this, not Israel.

00:26:22.780 Uh, he was asked what led him to that conclusion.

00:26:26.900 And he said, uh, the data I was shown by my defense department.

00:26:31.600 He's saying it was American, uh, the American Pentagon that showed him this was Islamic Jihad.

00:26:37.700 This was not the Israeli. So he's not relying on IDF.

00:26:40.420 But the IDF, of course, we've laid out the evidence has come to the same conclusion.

00:26:43.880 It's pretty obvious.

00:26:45.580 Just a little bit more color on how the reporting went down.

00:26:48.240 New York Times first reported, I read some of it before,

00:26:50.740 an Israeli airstrike hit a Gaza hospital, killing at least 200 Palestinians.

00:26:55.780 OK, not true.

00:26:57.100 Then it updated.

00:26:58.280 At least, at least 500 people were killed by an Israeli airstrike at a Gaza hospital.

00:27:04.520 Once again, not true on any front.

00:27:07.500 Then the third one that comes out, Israeli airstrike hits Gaza hospital, killing 500.

00:27:14.300 No, not true.

00:27:15.520 And that one came an hour after the IDF statement saying it wasn't us.

00:27:19.700 It was Islamic Jihad. 0.92

00:27:21.100 And even at that point, I mean, the New York Times knows well enough to say, who generally

00:27:26.640 do I believe?

00:27:27.940 The Israeli defense forces, which took the time to actually do some analysis before they

00:27:31.840 put out a statement, or the terrorists who just beheaded a bunch of children and murdered

00:27:36.160 women in the streets and old ladies. 0.87

00:27:38.380 If I have to go with one statement, who would I go with?

00:27:43.380 No.

00:27:43.720 So that was the third try around.

00:27:45.160 They still were saying Israeli airstrike, killing 500.

00:27:48.320 And then eventually they got around to taking out who was to blame.

00:27:52.940 So wrong on several fronts.

00:27:54.460 I read the CNN, the BBC, Rashida Tlaib.

00:27:57.240 Let me just give you a flavor on some of the politicians and the international bodies.

00:28:01.780 Cornel West, who's a presidential candidate right now.

00:28:04.400 This is carnage and nothing short of a war crime. 0.91

00:28:06.460 Congress must pass a resolution calling on Israel to cease and desist, targeting civilians

00:28:11.440 and children immediately.

00:28:13.060 The only one targeting civilians and children is Hamas.

00:28:15.420 This was not a war crime.

00:28:17.040 This, if it was, it was by Hamas and Palestinian Jihad, Islamic Jihad.

00:28:21.300 Justin Trudeau, you can always count on him.

00:28:24.460 The news coming out of Gaza is horrific, absolutely unacceptable.

00:28:28.700 International law must be respected in this and all cases.

00:28:31.980 There are rules around wars.

00:28:33.080 It's not acceptable to hit a hospital.

00:28:34.880 Tell it to the Islamists. 1.00

00:28:36.460 Justin, U.N. Secretary General, appeared to blame Israel as well.

00:28:40.640 I'm horrified by the killing of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in a strike on a hospital

00:28:45.100 in Gaza.

00:28:45.980 Hospitals and medical personnel are protected under international humanitarian law.

00:28:49.720 Same with the WHO.

00:28:51.360 All immediately reacting to this news out of the propaganda arm of Hamas, which was cited,

00:28:58.300 this, this, the Palestinian health ministry.

00:29:00.600 That's the Hamas propaganda arm. 0.82

00:29:03.640 All ran with it. 0.93

00:29:04.720 It's absolutely disgusting.

00:29:06.480 Buck and I, as I looked at those videos last night out of, you know, Beirut and Jordan

00:29:11.600 and Iran, we can go down the list.

00:29:13.800 I was struck by how little it takes to let them unleash the hatred.

00:29:20.820 And I also wondered where it's going to go, right?

00:29:23.720 Now, I, I know it sounds kind of silly, like an, an unprecedented day of rage.

00:29:28.820 That's what they want today.

00:29:29.960 Not just a day of rage, an unprecedented day of rage.

00:29:33.160 Reminded me of the scene from a few good men.

00:29:35.460 I strenuously object.

00:29:37.000 And the guys, is that how we do it?

00:29:38.400 And I object overruled, but I strenuously object.

00:29:41.360 Oh, it's not just a day of rage is unprecedented, but these, these people mean it.

00:29:46.540 These people have true evil in their hearts.

00:29:49.840 There's something very important that was also shown yesterday as a result of this incident.

00:29:56.800 And if you just look, if you just open your eyes and you're honest about it, you can see

00:30:02.360 it with clarity, the notion to, to all these people, these news agencies, these even heads

00:30:10.540 of state, including in the West, the death of, it was reported at one point, 500 people was

00:30:18.460 less of the story than it's Israel's fault.

00:30:23.920 If it could be Israel's fault, that was the most important thing to a lot of these individuals. 0.94

00:30:28.680 Was it 200?

00:30:29.340 Was it 500?

00:30:30.300 What happened?

00:30:31.060 None of that matters.

00:30:31.640 The thing they were jumping on first and foremost was Israel's committed a war crime.

00:30:37.760 Look at this.

00:30:38.660 That was a part of it.

00:30:39.580 It wasn't, oh my gosh, what can we do to, to, you know, get resources to this hospital

00:30:44.080 right away?

00:30:44.860 And, and, you know, we, we need more accurate reporting.

00:30:47.780 So we know exactly what happened here.

00:30:50.120 The first impulse of a lot of these individuals was that the most important outcome of what seems

00:30:56.680 to be a, a mask, I mean, a mass casualty accident by Palestinian. 1.00

00:31:01.460 Islamic Jihad based on all the, all the information we have.

00:31:05.680 But the thing that mattered to them the most was that it was Israel's fault. 0.79

00:31:09.340 And of course it's not Israel's fault.

00:31:10.940 So that's, that changes the story dramatically.

00:31:14.320 But behind all of this, there's always this, this false parity that is supposed to exist

00:31:21.620 when we look at these issues.

00:31:23.180 Um, there's always this sense that, you know, Israel and Hamas are, you know, they're both

00:31:27.660 fighting and sometimes they fight dirty and sometimes one goes too far.

00:31:30.740 The other goes too far.

00:31:31.560 Uh, Israel is a law abiding democratic state where over a million, uh, Arabs live happily

00:31:39.420 and with full rights inside the state of Israel.

00:31:41.720 Um, Hamas is a designated terrorist entity that when, you know, right now we think of because

00:31:48.300 of the 1400 people killed in the, uh, most recent terror attack, but for decades has been

00:31:54.100 supporting suicide bombings, um, of buses and suicide bombings of birthday parties.

00:32:00.440 And I mean, the most horrific stuff imaginable.

00:32:03.480 And in this particular moment, I think there's a recognition that this Hamas attack, people 0.76

00:32:08.820 are saying, oh, it was to stop Israel from, uh, further improve negotiations, the Middle

00:32:14.440 East.

00:32:14.760 I mean, there's some truth to that.

00:32:16.200 And I think that's, that's a part of the discussion, but this attack was meant to be

00:32:20.780 as sadistic and vengeful and horrific as possible.

00:32:25.400 This Hamas mass casualty attack was a rage against the human beings who are Jews who live 0.99

00:32:33.240 in Israel and to show the, just the depth of the hatred that Hamas has been building

00:32:38.760 up for decades as an organization.

00:32:41.240 And certainly over the last few years has been planning something like this.

00:32:44.620 So there is no moral equivalency.

00:32:47.520 Uh, it's very frustrating to see people, uh, try to play that game.

00:32:51.120 Um, and I, and I think a lot of it comes from a combination of ignorance.

00:32:55.400 And anti-Semitism, uh, those two things go together.

00:32:59.420 Um, and I think that what you're going to see in a lot of these Middle Eastern countries

00:33:02.900 is more, uh, you know, more protests, more make noise about this, but not a lot of doing

00:33:09.180 anything to actually help any Palestinians. 1.00

00:33:10.960 And what, what does that tell you process?

00:33:13.480 You know, Jordan saying, well, that's, I mean, we've been talking about how Egypt is like,

00:33:16.180 well, they're not coming in here.

00:33:17.060 I don't, it's a hard no on taking in any of these refugees into Egypt. 1.00

00:33:21.000 Nevermind Jordan.

00:33:21.920 But I do want to talk to you about what, what is likely to happen.

00:33:25.080 We have the United States president now on the ground there.

00:33:28.060 Clearly we would not have sent him unless we thought we had something accomplished that

00:33:31.980 he was going to be able to look like a hero for doing, um, you know, Blinken's been over

00:33:36.180 there basically since it happened.

00:33:37.780 And he was meeting with like Palestinians, Mahmoud Abbas and others, uh, it, before they

00:33:43.280 all canceled on our president in the wake of this hospital bombing.

00:33:46.380 So I think they were looking to have some sort of a victory by sending Joe Biden over

00:33:50.400 there, which now doesn't look like it's going to happen.

00:33:53.000 Um, the question is what will happen, uh, that they have some 200 hostages in Gaza.

00:33:58.900 There was some reporting that Hamas had said, we'll release them.

00:34:03.200 If Israel stops the bombing, we'll release the civilian, uh, hostages. 0.99

00:34:07.600 If Israel stops the bombing, not the military ones, Israel has to release all Palestinians 1.00

00:34:12.880 in any Israeli jail, uh, if they want their military guys back, but the civilians can leave

00:34:19.460 if they stop bombing.

00:34:20.840 And I don't know, you know, it's the reports are that our president, our, our state department

00:34:24.700 has been working to craft some sort of a deal on the hostages, uh, that appears for

00:34:30.320 right now, not to be active since we're not having any major meeting while we're over there

00:34:34.540 with, you know, the people, the Arabs.

00:34:37.000 So what do you make of diplomatically where we stand now?

00:34:40.160 As, as I reported at the top, we've got some tens of thousands of IDF soldiers lining up,

00:34:45.180 getting ready to go in.

00:34:46.920 I think you have to make these diplomatic overtures.

00:34:50.460 So, uh, that, that's just, um, that's something that you would hope.

00:34:57.760 I mean, this is essentially doing what you can before the seemingly inevitable happens,

00:35:03.200 which is the military, uh, conflict that's, that's about to unfold here.

00:35:07.720 Uh, the chance of them getting some kind of a, of a negotiation that would stop this war

00:35:12.920 from happening, I think is incredibly slim.

00:35:15.240 It doesn't mean that it is non-existent and, um, you know, whether you're talking to people

00:35:20.980 in the state department or anybody who's been involved in these kinds of high level negotiations,

00:35:24.940 you know, you, you don't lose anything, I think, by having discussions about this or,

00:35:30.300 or at least seeing, uh, what the possibilities are.

00:35:33.320 All of that said, uh, you have the biggest terror attack since 9-11, um, and one, when you look

00:35:42.380 at it as a scale of the Israeli people, it was, it was just an absolutely abhorrent and appalling 1.00

00:35:48.340 number of civilian casualties that demands a response.

00:35:52.220 Uh, how can there be any real talks going forward with Hamas as, as an entity?

00:35:58.420 Um, how is it, uh, how is it acceptable?

00:36:01.660 How is it, uh, a sustainable, better way of putting it, future for the Israeli state that

00:36:07.520 it now is going to have right on its doorstep, an entity that will just decide at random to

00:36:13.520 kill over a thousand Israelis, men, women, children, and babies.

00:36:17.640 Um, that's, that's completely unacceptable. 0.99

00:36:19.920 It's completely unsustainable.

00:36:22.040 And so.

00:36:22.600 They tried that.

00:36:23.640 Right.

00:36:24.060 I mean, they, they've shown exactly what happens if you try to let, they, they pulled out of

00:36:28.360 Gaza.

00:36:28.760 There was a lot of negotiating, a lot of talking, a lot of back and forth over that at the time.

00:36:32.480 Um, and, and they pulled out of Gaza and they let Hamas run Gaza.

00:36:37.780 It obviously has turned it into a hell hole, which is not a surprise.

00:36:40.960 They gave jobs to Gazans inside Israel, trying to improve their economic fortunes.

00:36:46.200 No, none of it worked.

00:36:47.480 Hamas admitted this week, they were all just lying in wait the whole time to, to surprises.

00:36:52.780 Israel with this attack.

00:36:54.260 You know, the pro the problem here that you deal with is even if you were to get some

00:36:56.900 kind of negotiation that would result in exchange of hostages, Israel has to go in and destroy 0.93

00:37:04.040 capture. 0.98

00:37:04.980 That means capture, kill, capture or kill Hamas leadership. 0.99

00:37:08.340 There's no way around that. 0.93

00:37:09.600 It's not, there's not some alternative where now Hamas can say, all right, let's go.

00:37:13.820 That's why, uh, you know, let's have a ceasefire.

00:37:16.600 I mean, I saw like AOC, for example, talking about how, well, now we need a ceasefire on

00:37:21.800 both sides, a ceasefire.

00:37:24.360 It's just engaged in a mass casualty terror attack.

00:37:27.500 None of those individuals have really, I mean, not to our knowledge, at least have been brought

00:37:31.380 to justice.

00:37:33.000 Um, they still have the same infrastructure and, and weapons at their disposal to conduct

00:37:38.620 future attacks like that.

00:37:40.420 Um, and they've got our hostages, they've got our hostages and Israelis, Israel's hostages. 0.62

00:37:45.500 She's not focused on them in the Middle East.

00:37:48.940 I mean, anybody who studies it and, and has a real interest in it, they'll tell you the

00:37:54.040 thing that is respected most of all is force.

00:37:57.340 Um, diplomacy is fine.

00:37:58.900 We can talk, we can do all of that.

00:38:00.340 But at the end of the day, um, the people that are in a position to have their way because

00:38:06.480 they're the strongest and because there are consequences for crossing them are the ones

00:38:11.380 who are going to be listened to.

00:38:12.940 Um, and that's, and I understand right now there's this framing of, oh, why does, does

00:38:18.040 Israel need, need vengeance in this moment? 0.93

00:38:20.080 It's not about vengeance.

00:38:20.880 It's about justice.

00:38:21.660 And it's about stopping an ongoing threat.

00:38:24.140 If the United States had a terrorist entity that was adjoining its borders, I mean, it was

00:38:31.420 right next door and could come and go effectively with these kinds of attacks as it chose to,

00:38:37.780 and it was continuing to fire, and could continue to fire rockets, we would go in there and we

00:38:42.180 would do what is necessary for our security because we would not think it an acceptable

00:38:47.800 state of affairs to live in constant fear and with the constant possibility that we could

00:38:52.520 be murdered in our beds by some terrorist hit squad, right?

00:38:56.040 So that's the same mentality that the Israeli people have every right to operate with now. 0.96

00:39:02.220 I mean, they, they really have a duty in the IDF and the Israeli government has a duty to

00:39:07.800 prevent this kind of thing from happening again.

00:39:10.300 And there is no agreement that you can ever strike with people who would do what Hamas just 0.96

00:39:15.480 did that you could count on.

00:39:17.200 I mean, there's no such thing as like a handshake or a treaty with people who would do what Hamas 0.98

00:39:21.540 just did that any same people would hold.

00:39:24.500 All right, stand by, because I do want to get into, now we've got two aircraft carriers

00:39:29.880 going over there.

00:39:30.620 We've got 2,000 Marines and sailors heading closer to Israel militarily.

00:39:36.240 What's going to happen now as Iran continues with some aggressive saber rattling and Vladimir 0.98

00:39:42.060 Putin has just weighed in.

00:39:43.940 More with Buck straight ahead.

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00:40:16.860 This is Channel 12's camera.

00:40:19.300 It is a camera situated in the city of Netivot and its view is of the Gaza Strip.

00:40:24.300 You see the time stamp on this.

00:40:27.100 It's 6.59 and this is when it happens.

00:40:30.060 We can press play on the tape and you can see very clearly.

00:40:34.220 Again, this is Channel 12's camera.

00:40:36.880 You can show that.

00:40:37.720 You can see the rockets.

00:40:38.540 This is the left red stamp fired over the hospital, which is the right, and you can see the blast.

00:40:45.300 So that is proof of the fact that it came from the Gaza Strip, our cameras, Channel 12's cameras.

00:40:51.540 The President of the United States has already said it appears it was done by the other team, meaning he also realizes that it was shooting from inside Gaza over the hospital.

00:41:02.300 Israeli reporting on what we've been telling you all day, which is this rocket came from the Palestinian side, not from the Israelis, notwithstanding what you may have read in the press.

00:41:16.520 Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:41:17.760 So the military situation, as far as the U.S. is concerned, 2,000 Marines and sailors heading closer to Israel, non-combat personnel, non-combat, who are waiting to help.

00:41:28.220 They've been given notice to prepare to deploy at any moment.

00:41:32.660 The Pentagon's been delivering weapons to Israel on a near daily basis.

00:41:36.160 We've got five C-17s that have landed in Israel, fulfilling Israel's munitions requests, ASAP. 0.76

00:41:42.500 We've got the Ford strike group already in the eastern Mediterranean, the Eisenhower strike group on its way to two of our biggest and best aircraft carriers.

00:41:50.980 One is the biggest.

00:41:52.660 And the ground invasion hasn't yet happened.

00:41:55.420 Some said that was because they were waiting for the American president to leave.

00:41:59.780 The Biden administration has said they did not make any such request of Netanyahu.

00:42:04.300 So we do expect the ground invasion to happen, we think, at some point soon.

00:42:08.700 In the meantime, Iran, Buck, is saying they're warning a preemptive action against Israel, quote, in the coming hours as Israel gets ready for this ground invasion.

00:42:20.460 The Iranian embassy in Syria tweeted out, time is up.

00:42:24.320 They've repeatedly warned that if Israel goes in on the ground in Gaza, this will be met with, quote, a response from Iran on other fronts and saying the resistance fighters will not allow Israel to do whatever it wants in Gaza.

00:42:41.220 Just a little bit more color.

00:42:44.820 They let's say, well, that's that's enough for now.

00:42:48.840 Iran threatening that if Israel does what it needs to do, they're going to get involved.

00:42:52.940 And so far, what President Biden has said is don't don't.

00:42:57.840 So what what is the actual likelihood of Iran getting involved?

00:43:02.820 Because that's a totally different ballgame.

00:43:05.820 I don't think that Iran is likely to be a direct combatant in this.

00:43:12.560 I don't think that you'll see a major escalation from the Iranian side of this.

00:43:17.660 The rhetoric is to be expected and, you know, that they will raise their sword against the Zionist entity and all this stuff. 0.92

00:43:24.200 I mean, that's just the way Iran is going to react to anything that involves the state of Israel at a moment of elevated tensions or honestly just in general.

00:43:33.040 You will see there have already been some clashes in the north with Hezbollah, which is a proxy, a proxy arm of Iran, effectively.

00:43:42.320 There's also Iranian militias operating in Syria, really kind of military or paramilitary groups.

00:43:49.140 So you'll probably see something, some show of resistance with Hezbollah firing rockets, something along those lines in the north.

00:43:59.560 But I don't think you'll see anything that would raise to the level of a major Iranian or major Iranian involvement here, direct military action.

00:44:10.320 And that's why we have U.S. carrier groups in the region, because we could be able to deploy airstrikes with devastating effect if need be.

00:44:18.500 But obviously, that would also be a whole other ballgame.

00:44:21.700 I mean, now you're talking about Iran and the Strait of Hormuz and global oil supply.

00:44:27.340 And, you know, things get very, very scary, very quickly if you were to see this become a broader conflagration.

00:44:37.580 So that's why I understand the elevated anxiety about it.

00:44:40.360 I understand people having the concerns that they do that this could become something that is considerably worse.

00:44:47.980 I just I don't see that happening.

00:44:50.560 I find that is unlikely because, you know, the one of the, you know, the Iranians, I don't think, want to really get into it with it with the U.S. and the Israelis right now. 1.00

00:45:01.460 And I think that there is a sense that this I think the outcome here is largely, I would say predetermined, but the Israelis are going to go into Gaza. 0.90

00:45:11.580 They are going to take certainly the northern portion of Gaza as an area that they're going to clean out of Hamas to the greatest possible degree. 0.67

00:45:21.660 And then there'll be some efforts to help with the it is already a humanitarian disaster in Gaza.

00:45:28.340 And the question that I can't answer right now is who's in charge of Gaza when all this is over?

00:45:34.860 What is the governing entity there?

00:45:37.080 This is something that I haven't really heard many compelling answers other than some fractured maybe version of Hamas or some other group comes along and says, OK, well, we'll take over for a little while.

00:45:49.940 You know, if you're going to remove the leadership, which I think is the mission and should be the mission of the Israelis in Gaza, what goes into that vacuum next?

00:45:57.600 But no, I do not have expectations.

00:46:00.360 I mean, isn't the leadership in Qatar and these five star hotels in Qatar, the Hamas leadership and the ones like calling all the shots? 0.94

00:46:07.080 There's leadership and then there's the on the ground, you know, calling the calling the shots, so to speak, on the military side of things, on the militant side of things.

00:46:16.000 I mean, they have something like 25,000, 30,000 fighters, you know, armed combatants in Gaza.

00:46:23.560 So they have a command structure for them.

00:46:26.580 But yes, I mean, they're putting trying to put pressure on the Middle East countries that play host to Hamas leadership.

00:46:34.900 That certainly would be an option.

00:46:37.160 The problem is those countries all use the Palestinian issue as a as a pretense that they care.

00:46:44.240 I mean, this this is where their motivations, if anything, their sympathies are with the Palestinians, not sympathies, but they're more aligned with what the Palestinians and Hamas would like to do to Israel than they are with Israel.

00:46:54.820 I got to get this in.

00:46:56.240 Vladimir Putin weighs in.

00:46:58.260 Of course, he's waging war against Ukraine.

00:47:00.380 This is all to the north of the Middle East. 0.92

00:47:02.100 If you go north, if you sort of follow the map, you see the Mediterranean just north of, you know, Israel and Gaza.

00:47:09.160 And then you go a little further north and you hit the Black Sea and then you go a little further north.

00:47:13.880 Then you see Russia.

00:47:14.780 And keep that in mind as you listen to this soundbite from Vladimir Putin that we've translated.

00:47:20.640 The United States is getting more and more personally involved in this conflict.

00:47:26.020 They are getting involved.

00:47:27.700 This is obvious.

00:47:28.940 And no one say that they have nothing to do with it.

00:47:31.580 We believe they do.

00:47:33.440 In addition, all this is happening against the backdrop of the Middle East conflict.

00:47:38.060 All this heats up the atmosphere.

00:47:40.120 They have brought two aviation groups to the Mediterranean Sea.

00:47:42.560 I would like to say that this is not a threat, which I will now announce and inform you about.

00:47:54.740 But according to my instructions, the Russian Air Force and the Russian Space Force are constantly patrolling the neutral areas of the Black Sea airspace.

00:48:03.280 So that's his answer to our aircraft carriers in the Mediterranean.

00:48:12.020 And is that just Putin looking for attention, trying to flex a muscle?

00:48:15.900 Yeah, I think that unfortunately, one of the outcomes of what we've seen here is going to be a change in.

00:48:26.500 Well, Putin has a freer hand to do whatever he wants to do in the meantime in Ukraine.

00:48:32.700 And he feels like he has stood up to he has stood up to the forces, you know, arrayed against him.

00:48:41.000 They're quite well up to this point, including all the Western backing and everything else.

00:48:44.640 So, you know, Putin is not going to play a major role in whatever unfolds between Israel and and the Palestinians.

00:48:51.860 That said, he does have deep ties to Iran and was quite involved in keeping the Assad regime in place in Syria.

00:49:00.720 So he thinks that he has racked up some victories in the region and thinks of himself as a as a as a power player.

00:49:09.300 So, yeah, he's going to he's going to flex muscles and and take this as an opportunity to try to say, you know, look, look, the U.S.

00:49:17.040 and its and its proxies and its allies are making a mess of things.

00:49:22.080 Yeah. And there's no winners in any of this.

00:49:23.900 But, you know, politically speaking, he's as close as we're going to get to winning this thing because we've you know,

00:49:29.840 it's just changed the calculus of what America is going to be focused on and what the world is going to be focused on.

00:49:35.500 Yeah. Buck Sexton. Always a pleasure, my friend. Thanks for coming on.

00:49:39.120 Thanks, Megan.

00:49:40.400 We'll be right back with Dennis Prager.

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00:50:16.940 Now for some of the disturbing anti-Semitism that we are seeing around the world and here at home and particularly, of course, on our college campuses.

00:50:27.580 Very, very happy to be joined on this issue by a man who's well versed on it.

00:50:32.180 Dennis Prager, host of The Dennis Prager Show and co-founder of Prager U.

00:50:37.620 Dennis, welcome back to the show.

00:50:39.340 I haven't had a chance to hear your take on anything that's happened over the past 11 days in the wake of this volatile evening that we've just experienced.

00:50:48.020 And these protests around the world now calling for the destruction of Israel here at home, support and sympathy for those calls on too many college campuses, all elite.

00:51:00.460 What are you thinking this morning?

00:51:02.740 Well.

00:51:03.100 Many years ago, I wrote a book titled Why the Jews?

00:51:08.600 The Reason for Anti-Semitism. 0.96

00:51:11.640 And about 10 years ago, I made a video for Prager University on the Middle East.

00:51:17.680 I was a graduate student at Columbia at the School of International Affairs at the Middle Eastern Institute.

00:51:23.920 And I remember the foolishness that I was taught by very knowledgeable and bright men—it was men then—and it was that the dispute in the Middle East was over land, that it wasn't theological, and that it certainly wasn't existential.

00:51:41.380 So I learned, basically, untruths.

00:51:46.180 They weren't liars.

00:51:47.400 They just—they had a predisposition to believing that the issue was land.

00:51:53.020 So in a nutshell, everything that I had been exposed to and wrote and spoke and spoken has unfortunately come true.

00:52:05.940 And the best way to put it is from a 2,000-year-old prayer in Jewish liturgy, which is stated in every Passover Seder in Hebrew, but I'll say it, of course, in English.

00:52:19.340 In every generation, someone arises to annihilate us, not just to kill us, not to persecute us, not to enslave us, to annihilate us.

00:52:31.140 There are massive numbers of animosities on Earth—religious, ethnic, racial, national—but only one is exterminationist, and that is vis-a-vis the Jew. 0.95

00:52:43.640 When they chant, from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free, what they're saying is, no Israel. 0.89

00:52:53.340 And no Israel means no Jews in Israel. 0.96

00:52:55.860 And the fact that there are so many people who believe that, who chant that, who wish that, is one of the most frightening phenomena of our fairly dark time.

00:53:09.840 At the Sydney Opera, they had a demonstration.

00:53:15.000 I played it on my radio show. 0.94

00:53:17.020 And they chanted, gas the Jews.

00:53:19.440 They chanted it. 0.93

00:53:20.340 And by the way, it's never Israelis. 0.88

00:53:23.600 It's always the Jews. 1.00

00:53:25.760 So what we're seeing is, unfortunately, a rerun of what was seen during the Holocaust. 0.85

00:53:33.600 I've never used the Holocaust as an analogy.

00:53:36.920 Never.

00:53:37.320 I've never called anyone a Nazi.

00:53:40.280 But Hamas and Hezbollah and Iran's regime, they are today's Nazis vis-a-vis the Jews. 0.92

00:53:48.240 And so, in a nutshell, it's a rerun.

00:53:54.580 Hmm. 0.95

00:53:56.320 I have been so disheartened, and I'm sure you have, too, to see the amount of support for these lunatics here at home.

00:54:04.100 Maybe our Jewish friends, maybe you as somebody who's been fighting these university battles for a long time,

00:54:09.580 have been aware of how deep and how widespread the Jew hatred is in America.

00:54:15.680 I had a sense it was out there.

00:54:17.900 I didn't have a sense that it was this strong and feeling ubiquitous as I see, you know, UPenn, Harvard, Yale, Stanford.

00:54:30.100 We could keep going.

00:54:31.600 And these crowds coming out in favor of Hamas and then the university professors.

00:54:37.520 I'll just give you a sample of the latest.

00:54:40.800 Every day we get more.

00:54:43.180 I used to live in Chicago for five years.

00:54:45.140 It's absolutely beautiful.

00:54:46.100 The Art Institute is spectacular, and the Art Institute of Chicago is one of the most respected art and design schools in the nation.

00:54:52.820 There is a teacher there named Mika Toska, associate professor, who posted on Instagram in the wake of this savage attack on Israeli children, elderly and civilians.

00:55:07.200 Here she is. 1.00

00:55:08.760 Israelis are pigs, savages, very, very bad people, irredeemable excrement. 1.00

00:55:14.680 The propaganda has been downright evil. 1.00

00:55:17.680 After the past week, if your eyes aren't open to the crimes against humanity that Israel is committing and has committed for decades and will continue to commit, then I suggest you open them. 0.97

00:55:26.800 It's disgusting and grotesque. 1.00

00:55:29.120 May they all rot in hell. 1.00

00:55:32.500 That's what's being taught, I guess, at the Art Institute as they swing by. 0.99

00:55:38.520 Then you've got Princeton National Review just releasing an exclusive with audio tape of Princeton professor Jeff Dolvin, who invited someone named El Kurd, a Palestinian activist, a couple months ago, on campus.

00:55:56.020 El Kurd accused Israels of organ harvesting and of having an unquenchable thirst for Palestinian blood and land.

00:56:02.360 The guy who invited him, Jeff Dolvin, refused to answer when a student audience member asked at that event whether he supports Hamas terrorism.

00:56:12.840 All right, that's Princeton.

00:56:13.900 These are just updates to the horrors we've been hearing out of Harvard and Yale and elsewhere.

00:56:19.900 At UPenn, which has been ground zero for a lot of what we've been seeing on the anti-Israeli rhetoric, last month they held this pro-Palestinian festival.

00:56:28.560 And this is what's gotten a lot of the donors mad about some of the rhetoric we heard there.

00:56:33.540 Some of the details now coming out.

00:56:35.160 One of the people who do appear was author Aya Ghanama, who has called for death to Israel, and writer Randa Abdel-Fattah, who has said Israel is a demonic, sick project, and that she can't wait for the day we commemorate its end.

00:56:51.200 I could keep going.

00:56:52.420 You're getting the gist.

00:56:53.540 Every day, it's a new protest. 0.71

00:56:55.680 It's new big reveals about how the professors and always the Students for Justice in Palestine group, not to mention the Muslim Student Association, comes out siding with the terrorists and making very clear they want Israel and Jews eliminated. 0.83

00:57:11.040 That's right.

00:57:14.740 The rhetoric is identical to that of the Nazis in the 30s, and it comes overwhelmingly from within the Muslim world.

00:57:24.640 Certainly not all Muslims, but it doesn't matter. 1.00

00:57:27.740 Not all Germans were Nazis.

00:57:29.260 Only one-third of the Germans voted for Hitler and the Nazis in the last free elections before the Nazi takeover in 1932.

00:57:37.440 You just need a certain number that is enough, and you need a certain number of others who have been intimidated by these evil folks.

00:57:48.820 One of the messages of my life has been to warn non-Jews that to dismiss Jew hatred, a.k.a. anti-Semitism, as the Jews' problem, is to truly commit suicide. 0.98

00:58:07.280 Anti-Semitism is the canary in the mine. 0.95

00:58:11.480 Anti-Semitism, almost everybody knows what that is, so in a nutshell, canaries are taken down to mines.

00:58:19.060 They're more susceptible to noxious fumes.

00:58:22.880 The canary dies, the miner knows, fight the fumes or you will die. 0.97

00:58:27.180 The Jews are the miner's canary, and the miner has two choices. 1.00

00:58:32.860 The Nazis either say, oh, the fumes only kill canaries, or we better kill the fumes, or we're next. 0.97

00:58:41.940 And they dismissed Hitler and the Nazis as the Jews' problem, and it ended up with tens upon tens of millions of non-Jews slaughtered as a result of allowing Hitler to take power. 0.51

00:58:53.940 We are seeing, as I keep using the term rerun of all of this, this is coming from within largely the Muslim world, but not only. 0.99

00:59:05.080 The left is either silent or defends these people.

00:59:10.580 For all these years that I and others, you, I'm certainly not alone in this, but warning the degradation, the moral degradation of our universities, now people are awakening to it.

00:59:28.460 We had an article by the head of the Wharton School Board of Trustees, the head, the president of it, saying, don't give money to universities.

00:59:38.420 This is the head of the University of Pennsylvania Wharton School.

00:59:41.720 That's Mark Rowan, right?

00:59:42.740 Yes, that's right, Mark Rowan.

00:59:47.240 The only silver lining, and I don't look for silver linings, I don't look for bad things, I try to be as objective as possible.

00:59:58.360 Truth is liberating.

00:59:59.480 But if there is a silver lining, it will be that liberals wake up to the threat that Islamism, not all of Islam, but Islamism, and the left pose to Western civilization. 0.97

01:00:14.800 That, to me, would be the one, that would be a good thing to come out of all of this.

01:00:21.300 Will the liberal awaken to the threat of the left and the threat of the Islamists? 0.98

01:00:27.540 And they seem to be.

01:00:30.640 We'll talk a bit more about some of the feedback, because as we get new reports from the campuses every day, we get new reports of mega-bucked donors withdrawing their funds by the day.

01:00:42.500 I was saying yesterday, Dennis, that I know a very wealthy donor in New York who got this thing started sort of in an underground network of donors that we were connected to, and it was an internal hashtag, not another cupcake.

01:00:55.760 Not a cupcake at a bake sale to support these schools when they're teaching this radical ideology, whether it's on race, gender, Israel.

01:01:07.340 You know, they don't respond to pretty much anything except dollars.

01:01:11.620 And even dollars may not do the trick.

01:01:13.720 Mark Rowan, head of Apollo Group, wrote this letter to UPenn saying, this is insane what you're doing.

01:01:20.140 It has to stop.

01:01:21.080 It has to stop right now.

01:01:22.400 I'm going to pull all my funds, and I'm going to tell all my friends and my rich donors to pull their funds.

01:01:28.360 And they wouldn't print it.

01:01:30.000 He wanted it to be printed in the school paper.

01:01:32.020 They didn't do him the courtesy of even responding.

01:01:35.160 So he had to go to Barry Weiss and the Free Press, and she printed it, and now we're seeing more and more.

01:01:39.560 But before we get to them, let me stay on the sins of the universities for a second.

01:01:45.000 I'm on you, Penn, so I'll stay there.

01:01:47.060 This is just one of many, but we saw this guy.

01:01:49.600 Now, just think about it.

01:01:51.360 There are some 200 hostages right now in Gaza, Israeli civilians, who were not engaged in military exercises,

01:02:00.300 who are not under any definition of the rules of war, fair game babies.

01:02:05.280 Hamas has put out the picture.

01:02:06.660 They're babies, infants in strollers, not to mention young women who they stole from that music festival. 0.71

01:02:14.920 And there and here, people are putting up pictures of the, quote, missing.

01:02:19.700 You know, they don't know for sure whether they're hostages, whether they're missing.

01:02:22.600 Are they dead?

01:02:23.580 And just trying to get their faces out there.

01:02:25.980 You know, like, has anybody possibly seen them?

01:02:27.620 Is there any chance one of them got to New York and is just looking for help?

01:02:32.400 You're right.

01:02:32.840 This is what people do, well-meaning people.

01:02:35.160 What kind of a person tears down the photos of the missing, suffering civilians?

01:02:43.120 And it's happening more and more.

01:02:44.720 We'll go through a couple of them.

01:02:45.780 But here is you, Penn, caught on camera.

01:02:48.380 One of the most respected, this is like they all are, Ivy League, like Cornell was with a 0.97

01:02:53.740 crazy guy saying he was exhilarated and excited, the professor, to see the Jews die.

01:02:58.440 Um, here's a guy pulling down posters there. 0.93

01:03:03.900 Why are you tearing them down?

01:03:05.900 Innocent people were kidnapped.

01:03:07.480 People killed the hospital, but that, as we now know, is UPenn law school employee, Matthew

01:03:18.020 Renovix.

01:03:19.780 Um, UPenn has appeared to scrub his photo, but as we understand it, he works at the university,

01:03:25.460 maybe in the library.

01:03:27.400 Um, that's one guy.

01:03:29.540 Then we go over to NYU video emerged earlier this week of two young women and a man pulling

01:03:36.620 down video or pulling up, pulling down the hostage notifications there.

01:03:40.520 Uh, and I'll just show you the video just so I can get you up to speed.

01:03:43.200 Here they are.

01:03:44.600 There are the three of them.

01:03:45.820 Look at them.

01:03:48.440 I mean, they mean it.

01:03:51.020 They love it.

01:03:52.460 They can't get them down fast enough.

01:03:56.040 Um, and now we know, we don't know the man yet, but we know who the two young women are.

01:04:01.280 They've been identified, um, as Haviza Khalik and Yasmin Dahimi.

01:04:09.660 Yasmin Dahimi has now deleted both of her Instagram and her Twitter accounts.

01:04:13.820 Her LinkedIn is still live.

01:04:14.940 It lists a 2019 internship with the ADL, which is supposed to be a group divided to fighting

01:04:20.640 antisemitism.

01:04:21.960 It's a fail.

01:04:23.760 She, after getting caught, right here, her picture was circulated all over social media

01:04:29.100 yesterday.

01:04:29.760 Happy to have helped in that effort.

01:04:31.940 She got caught.

01:04:33.000 She got outed.

01:04:34.240 Now she's basically forced to apologize, though it wasn't exactly that.

01:04:39.400 She comes out to say she's, um, quote, I have found it increasingly difficult to

01:04:44.880 know my place as a biracial brown woman, especially during these highly volatile times.

01:04:51.180 And now she wants us to believe, um, that she does hope for the safe return of the Israeli

01:04:56.120 hostages.

01:04:56.640 Oh, by the way, that post has since been taken down, too.

01:05:00.600 So everywhere you go, and I'll give you one more.

01:05:04.100 Uh, here's another group of NYU students ripping down posters of hostages.

01:05:08.500 You're doing a great job, NYU.

01:05:09.980 Great job.

01:05:10.580 Heck of a heck of a job.

01:05:12.420 Uh, here they are ripping down more pictures of the hostages at NYU.

01:05:15.360 Take a look.

01:05:17.440 Hey, guys.

01:05:19.100 Are you defending terrorism, really?

01:05:21.460 You guys really are defending terrorism?

01:05:27.660 All right.

01:05:30.700 I think converts should be ashamed of yourself. 1.00

01:05:33.660 Should be ashamed of yourself.

01:05:35.500 Yes, you should be ashamed of yourself.

01:05:37.220 Last but not least, Dennis, on, on our parade through the ripping down of the posters, uh,

01:05:42.160 the streets of New York City, where two would appear to be college students gleefully tear

01:05:46.380 down even more.

01:05:47.660 Watch it.

01:05:53.300 What school do you go to?

01:05:55.820 What school do you go to?

01:05:58.080 What school do you go to, miss?

01:06:05.060 So what do you make of it all?

01:06:07.220 The issue really isn't what I make of it.

01:06:15.800 The issue is, what does the majority of Americans, or Westerners in general, make of it?

01:06:24.260 I, what I make of it is obvious.

01:06:26.340 These are people who, who have bought into an evil doctrine, truly evil.

01:06:31.980 They, they lie about Israel the way the Nazis lied about Jews, and apparently you can convince 1.00

01:06:40.580 a fair number of people, like the charge that Israel is committing, genocide.

01:06:46.320 Then how do you explain the fact that there are more Palestinians today than ever before? 1.00

01:06:50.860 It's the worst attempt at genocide in the history of attempts of genocide.

01:06:56.880 People, people's numbers, national numbers do not grow when genocide is applied to that

01:07:03.580 group.

01:07:03.920 But they will say anything about Israel.

01:07:07.620 Organ harvesting, you mentioned that yourself.

01:07:12.200 The, the lie is the road to evil.

01:07:14.900 And the question is, again, not what I make of it, but will it awaken that large number of

01:07:24.620 people that has put up with the rut that has come from the universities over the course of

01:07:31.300 my whole lifetime?

01:07:32.780 That's the question.

01:07:34.380 Will they awaken?

01:07:35.360 It was okay when they, when they taught kids that America is systemically racist, the least

01:07:41.960 racist biracial country in the history of the world is that, that, that was okay. 1.00

01:07:48.260 It was okay for universities to say, of course, if you're 18, you could decide, or even earlier 0.99

01:07:55.420 to have your breasts cut off. 1.00

01:07:56.940 If you think you're a boy, that's fine because there's no such thing as binary sexual identity. 0.99

01:08:03.200 It's non-binary.

01:08:04.340 You are what you think you are.

01:08:06.860 That was okay.

01:08:08.720 So now finally, some people, and certainly not all, are awakening to the moral cesspool

01:08:15.880 that the university has become.

01:08:18.240 And you mentioned the ADL.

01:08:20.680 The ADL has bought into leftism.

01:08:23.580 The ADL has actually, in my opinion, and I say this as a Jew who has fought anti-Semitism

01:08:28.940 his whole life, the ADL has probably, in the last, I don't know, 10 years, 20 years, created

01:08:36.320 more anti-Semitism than it has reduced anti-Semitism.

01:08:40.220 It doesn't only do bad, but it does plenty of it.

01:08:43.400 It is run by woke people.

01:08:45.120 It was staggering that you told me that that girl who ripped down the posters worked at

01:08:50.820 some point for the ADL.

01:08:52.420 I wasn't surprised.

01:08:55.600 So maybe there will be an awakening, but the bottom line is there are tens upon tens of

01:09:03.420 millions of people who want the Jews of Israel exterminated like the Nazis wanted the Jews 0.71

01:09:08.920 of Europe exterminated. 0.57

01:09:10.000 If you cannot acknowledge that fact, it is only because you do not want to acknowledge

01:09:17.560 that fact.

01:09:18.420 It is a fact.

01:09:22.280 We saw a demonstration outside of the White House, I think it was two days ago, where these

01:09:30.180 students, Hamas sympathizers, made it very clear, tried to actually breach the perimeter,

01:09:36.480 the concrete barrier, in the face of armed security protecting the White House.

01:09:43.380 Now, if this had been the other way, Dennis, you know, I'm not comparing it to January 6th,

01:09:49.900 but I did learn from January 6th, you try to breach the perimeter around a U.S. government

01:09:54.140 building and you're an insurrectionist.

01:09:56.940 But these young people, I mean, what would make, and they're young women, a lot of them

01:10:00.460 are young women, what would make a young woman go and get aggressive in the face of a secret 0.92

01:10:06.420 service agent who is trying to protect the president?

01:10:10.140 I'll show you the video.

01:10:28.500 Cease fire now.

01:10:29.760 Stop genocide in Gaza.

01:10:31.360 Look at them.

01:10:31.800 These young women having to be shoved back by cops, secret service, I presume, trying 1.00

01:10:37.600 to protect the president of the United States. 0.97

01:10:39.220 What the hell? 0.98

01:10:42.720 We have a lot of lost young people, and a disproportionate number of them are female. 0.97

01:10:50.080 Since I, either God or nature gave me a nature that attacks on me, only embolden me because

01:10:58.580 I realize that I'm having an effect.

01:11:01.180 So all the attacks are actually helpful to my work.

01:11:07.420 And I'm attacked a lot by the left for saying the following, that women are playing a disproportionate

01:11:14.300 role in ruining children in our country, for example.

01:11:19.220 It is women overwhelmingly who teach elementary school, overwhelmingly are the librarians, are 1.00

01:11:25.520 overwhelmingly the principals, are overwhelmingly the ones who advocate for a drag queen story

01:11:32.340 hour for five-year-olds, who advocate that kids have body mutilating surgeries if they

01:11:39.980 say that they are the other sex.

01:11:42.320 There are a lot of lost men, but they spend their time apparently in some basement with video

01:11:50.340 games and pornography and whatever else takes up their time.

01:11:54.280 But a lot of the women are acting out in society. 1.00

01:11:59.580 Why this is, is a fascinating question.

01:12:03.900 When I was a kid in an entirely, almost entirely different America, most young women were preoccupied

01:12:11.300 with finding a good man.

01:12:12.620 These women are the third generation that has essentially been told that a woman without

01:12:18.500 a man is like a fish without a bicycle. 0.96

01:12:21.080 And since they are fish without bicycles, they're not looking for bicycles because fish

01:12:25.200 don't need bicycles.

01:12:27.100 But men need women. 1.00

01:12:28.880 Women need men. 1.00

01:12:30.240 And we are seeing the consequences of three generations of, of distortive teachings offered to

01:12:37.040 young women in particular, but young men as well.

01:12:39.920 Look, it's very hard to make a good society.

01:12:45.320 The hardest thing in life is to make good people.

01:12:48.920 We don't start out that good.

01:12:51.180 That's the most important thing humans need to know if you want to make a good world.

01:12:56.460 So is society working on making good people?

01:13:00.060 Let me give you just one example that I've given for decades.

01:13:05.540 I went to yeshiva, which is a Jewish religious school, half the day in Hebrew, half the day

01:13:11.280 in English, an intensive education until I was 19.

01:13:15.100 And I learned that the greatest problem, and by the way, you learn this in many Christian 1.00

01:13:20.500 schools too.

01:13:21.340 This is a religious teaching.

01:13:23.040 I learned that the greatest problem in Dennis Prager's life is Dennis Prager.

01:13:27.520 But in secular schools, you learn that the greatest problem in your life is America.

01:13:34.280 That's an entirely different approach to trying to make a better society.

01:13:39.360 And we now see the fruit of the second approach.

01:13:43.480 It's very interesting.

01:13:44.580 Those videos I just showed you, the two, the ripping down of the posters at NYU, two

01:13:50.020 out of the three were women.

01:13:51.000 The next video, both shown were women, all the women, all the people trying to storm the

01:13:56.240 White House perimeter were women. 1.00

01:13:59.160 One of the women who got caught at NYU, who I said, blamed her behavior on her, the difficulty 0.99

01:14:06.440 of being a biracial brown woman, just playing the woke card. 0.96

01:14:12.680 And that brings me to the other thing that we're seeing here, which is the alignment of

01:14:21.420 some of these far left wokesters, particularly associated with BLM, with these anti-Semitic

01:14:29.740 groups that are coming out in support of Hamas, that when faced with a terrorist attack, can't

01:14:36.120 make the delineation between resistance and legitimate political differences.

01:14:42.280 Which, of course, is not exactly what's happening in the Middle East.

01:14:45.080 And terror, terror that should be universally condemned easily and without really having

01:14:50.660 to think it through.

01:14:52.200 So there's this woman, right?

01:14:54.100 Of course, I'm biracial and I'm brown.

01:14:55.800 That's why I pulled down the hostage posters.

01:14:59.400 We saw BLM Chicago putting out the hand glider, the paraglider promo saying, yeah, this is

01:15:06.540 it.

01:15:06.960 Way to go.

01:15:07.520 So BLM National refused to condemn the resurfaced clip of Patrice Cullors, who founded BLM, saying 0.83

01:15:14.220 Israel needs to be eradicated. 1.00

01:15:16.640 And now you have Ta-Nehisi Coates, who is one of the most celebrated black writers, who's 0.97

01:15:25.460 one of these BLM heroes coming out.

01:15:29.780 He's he was at MIT, started off as a writer, reporter.

01:15:32.700 Then he wound up at MIT, NYU.

01:15:35.740 Now he's at Howard.

01:15:37.380 He and others wrote a letter defending this Palestine festival of literature that we referenced

01:15:44.080 at which, you know, UPenn and others had this had this festival and all these crazies came

01:15:48.500 out and commenting on what just happened in Israel.

01:15:51.880 And he says the following when the U.S.

01:15:56.840 State Department deletes a statement cause calling for a ceasefire, because you remember

01:16:01.180 the State Department first put out that statement calling for a ceasefire through its Palestinian

01:16:05.580 affairs branch.

01:16:07.260 Then they deleted it.

01:16:08.860 I mean, this is as the Israelis were still being killed and they were but they were talking 0.99

01:16:12.460 to Israel saying, don't don't fight back.

01:16:15.900 Then we fear we are watching an ethnic cleansing on a scale unseen in decades. 0.92

01:16:20.560 Israel, you see, is engaging in ethnic cleansing, not Hamas.

01:16:25.720 Then he writes the governments of the United States, UK, France and others are participating

01:16:30.800 in this crime by ramping up military support for Israel.

01:16:33.660 On Saturday, writing of the day of the terrorist attack, after 16 years of siege, Hamas militants

01:16:43.300 broke out of Gaza. 0.70

01:16:46.080 More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed. 0.70

01:16:51.480 That's Ta-Nehisi Coates' description of the terrorist attack by these Hamas monsters. 0.95

01:16:59.880 After 16 years of siege, Hamas militants broke out of Gaza and then passive voice.

01:17:05.600 More than 1,300 Israelis were subsequently killed.

01:17:08.720 So why is it?

01:17:10.540 What is the connection between the BLM radicals and these anti-Israel radicals?

01:17:18.820 So I referenced the book I wrote 35 years ago, Why the Jews?

01:17:23.700 It's in its third edition.

01:17:24.920 And with each subsequent edition, although it even began in the first, I and my co-author,

01:17:34.780 Rabbi Joseph Kalishkin, we wrote in it that anti-Americanism is, in effect, another expression

01:17:44.620 of anti-Semitism.

01:17:46.740 Hatred of America and hatred of the Jews generally go hand in hand.

01:17:51.460 There are always exceptions, but not many. 0.87

01:17:55.260 BLM hates America. 1.00

01:17:57.440 It hates the West.

01:17:59.100 It hates everything generally that you and I hold to be precious, like the nuclear family.

01:18:05.960 And so it's not surprising whatsoever.

01:18:08.640 I would be, it would, it would prove that I was wrong if BLM was pro-Israel or didn't,

01:18:17.500 or just didn't even lie about Israel.

01:18:20.000 Israel is engaged in ethnic cleansing. 0.62

01:18:23.740 That's, isn't that the cousin of genocide?

01:18:27.620 Then why are there more Palestinians? 1.00

01:18:30.420 Israel gave up.

01:18:31.620 See, one of the things that people need to understand is that this is all rooted in ignorance.

01:18:37.760 How many young people in America at the most prestigious colleges, history majors, if you will,

01:18:44.640 know that Israel gave the entire Sinai, a block of land, I believe, bigger than Israel itself,

01:18:52.140 gave it to Egypt because Egypt signed a peace treaty?

01:18:57.200 And how many know that Israel said to the Gazans, okay, we're leaving.

01:19:02.380 We have no interest in being here.

01:19:06.260 Here, have Gaza. 0.97

01:19:08.380 And as a result of that, rockets are sent in the thousands to kill as many Jews in Israel 0.99

01:19:15.140 as possible. 0.95

01:19:15.880 How many people know that the Palestinians were offered five times they were offered

01:19:21.560 states?

01:19:22.380 That Bill Clinton said at negotiations at Camp David, he said it was Arafat's fault.

01:19:28.540 Do people even know who Arafat was?

01:19:31.340 The head of the PLO, the Palestine Liberation Organization.

01:19:35.260 He was given 95% of Palestinian land to make the state and rejected it and then unleashed a 0.99

01:19:42.300 massive amount of terror against Israelis.

01:19:45.100 The whole edifice of the left and of the Islamists, of the Israel haters, is based on lies because 0.83

01:19:52.820 the only truth, the only truth is they want Israel exterminated.

01:19:58.020 The size of Israel is irrelevant.

01:20:05.000 It's chilling.

01:20:06.720 Chilling.

01:20:07.620 Yes, it is chilling.

01:20:09.200 Because there's no parallel to Jew hatred. 0.75

01:20:11.780 There never has been.

01:20:13.700 And there's no parallel to Israel hatred. 0.59

01:20:16.620 Iran announces.

01:20:17.660 I mean, what more does one want?

01:20:19.400 Iran, one of the most powerful states in the world, announces regularly.

01:20:24.520 Its raison d'etre, its reason for being, is to destroy Israel. 1.00

01:20:29.440 Are they fooling?

01:20:30.620 Do people not take it seriously?

01:20:33.000 Is there any parallel?

01:20:34.800 In any disputes in the world, is extermination the aim of one of the powers?

01:20:39.700 But people don't want to acknowledge this.

01:20:43.580 This is the ultimate lie that we are living, that Israel is the villain. 0.97

01:20:49.860 I debated.

01:20:50.760 It's on YouTube.

01:20:51.580 People can watch it.

01:20:52.840 I debated at Oxford a few years ago.

01:20:54.960 You know what the theme was?

01:20:56.740 Who is the greater threat to peace in the Middle East, Hamas or Israel?

01:21:00.900 And I began my statement.

01:21:03.920 One could see it, as I said, on YouTube.

01:21:06.060 Dude, Dennis Prager at Oxford.

01:21:08.040 And I began my statement saying, I actually called Oxford.

01:21:13.640 This is God's honest truth.

01:21:16.100 And I said, I want to get this right.

01:21:18.520 Is that really the debate subject?

01:21:22.060 You mean Oxford University will entertain the possibility that Israel is a greater threat 1.00

01:21:29.380 to peace than Hamas? 0.93

01:21:32.240 And he said, yes, yes, sir.

01:21:33.380 That is the debate.

01:21:35.300 And sure it was.

01:21:36.680 It was the debate.

01:21:38.320 And I said, among other things, in the history of the modern world, is there an example of

01:21:44.420 a free country, a democracy versus a tyranny?

01:21:47.880 And it's the democracy that is the threat to peace.

01:21:51.320 Give me one other example in history, that in a battle between tyranny and freedom, the

01:21:57.960 free state is the one that wants war.

01:22:02.020 Oh, I got to see this.

01:22:04.280 All right, good.

01:22:04.800 That you've done me some homework for later in the day.

01:22:08.360 Watching Dennis Prager debate is always a pleasure, because as you're gathering, the

01:22:12.460 man knows his facts, he knows his history, and he has a way with them word things.

01:22:16.540 All right, Dennis Prager stands by.

01:22:18.840 More after this quick break.

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01:22:50.900 The U.S. president is, of course, in the Middle East right now, meeting with the Israeli

01:22:59.320 leaders.

01:23:00.180 He was supposed to meet with some of the Arab leaders who then canceled on him in the wake

01:23:04.240 of this hospital bombing, which was wrongly, it appears, blamed on Israel.

01:23:09.580 And now both the IDF and the American Pentagon saying it appears to have been fired from Hamas's

01:23:17.360 side, in particular, Islamic Jihad, this other extremist group in Palestine.

01:23:23.800 The U.S. president just weighed in with a bit of a life lesson for the Israelis.

01:23:30.920 Him speaking.

01:23:31.960 He was speaking here as somebody who had, you know, lived through 9-11.

01:23:36.360 He was, of course, a U.S. senator at the time.

01:23:38.420 Here's what he had to say.

01:23:41.700 But I caution this while you feel that rage.

01:23:44.940 Don't be consumed by it.

01:23:47.440 After 9-11, we were enraged in the United States.

01:23:51.620 While we sought justice and got justice, we also made mistakes.

01:23:56.080 I'm the first U.S. president to visit Israel in time of war.

01:24:01.360 I've made wartime decisions.

01:24:02.920 I know the choices are never clear or easy for the leadership.

01:24:07.580 There's always cost.

01:24:09.620 But it requires being deliberate.

01:24:11.920 It requires asking very hard questions.

01:24:15.000 It requires clarity about the objectives and an honest assessment about whether the path you're on will achieve those objectives.

01:24:22.700 You know, Dennis, I've been thinking about President Biden.

01:24:29.140 You can't deny that he helped get us into this mess with his policies and his weakness.

01:24:33.620 And yet, you also, I think, can't help but root for the American president to handle this crisis with intelligence and care and savvy and a long-term view toward what is best for the United States.

01:24:50.600 You know, you've got to be, I'm sure you are, I'm praying for him.

01:24:54.820 I'm praying for Blinken.

01:24:56.980 These are not people who I support as politicians, but in the role they're in, I want them to do well, and I want them, given the power they have, to make good decisions.

01:25:07.260 It just seems like we're on the precipice here, as you see the protests emerging in all of the Arab world.

01:25:15.060 You know, we're on the precipice of something potentially very, very dangerous, and he's going to be responsible in large part for how this plays out.

01:25:25.280 Not entirely, but in large part.

01:25:28.080 What do you make of his warnings on be careful?

01:25:30.780 Well, first of all, I want to just comment on your wish that he do well, that Secretary Blinken do well, and I share your wish, by the way.

01:25:43.020 And I was thinking, did people on the left ever say, in something with as large an audience as you or I have, that, well, you know, we may differ with Donald Trump, but we certainly pray for his success in whatever X, Y, or Z issue it might be.

01:26:04.080 And the imbalance is quite apparent that I just thought I would note that for a public edification, if you will.

01:26:15.240 Well, there is no parallel other than pain, and that is a parallel, between 9-11 and October 7th.

01:26:30.240 First of all, in terms of population, the Jewish population of Israel lost not 3,000 as the American population lost horribly on 9-11, but about 30,000 in equivalent terms to American population, probably even more.

01:26:49.940 However, the Israelis that I have had on my radio show have noted that there is no Israeli who is more than one degree away from knowing someone who was killed or someone who was kidnapped.

01:27:11.660 Obviously, there was no parallel in 9-11.

01:27:17.800 This does not minimize the horror of 9-11.

01:27:21.220 It maximizes this horror.

01:27:24.580 American babies were not taken hostage to some hostile place.

01:27:30.040 I mean, see, here's an important point, I think, again, something I've realized my whole life.

01:27:40.800 Evil is not dark, because it's easy to look into the dark.

01:27:45.340 It doesn't hurt your eyes.

01:27:47.560 Evil is so bright that people can't look at it.

01:27:51.780 And I saw that during the Cold War.

01:27:54.240 When I, again, I was at graduate school in international affairs.

01:27:58.500 So I was at the Russian Institute and the Middle East Institute.

01:28:03.920 And the professors at the Russian Institute almost uniformly looked at the Cold War as a battle between two superpowers.

01:28:11.960 They removed the moral component.

01:28:14.780 It wasn't freedom versus tyranny.

01:28:17.560 It was superpower versus superpower.

01:28:20.300 Because apparently it takes some degree of courage or at least overcoming one's own tendencies to say, you know what, evil is evil.

01:28:33.140 In retrospect, everyone says the Soviet Union was evil.

01:28:36.860 But they didn't then.

01:28:38.020 When Ronald Reagan said it was an evil empire, the New York Times and every newspaper, every major medium in America condemned him.

01:28:48.920 How can you call them an evil empire?

01:28:53.200 And the answer is because they were an evil empire.

01:28:56.300 People are good at calling evil, evil when it's dead.

01:29:02.420 But that's irrelevant.

01:29:04.500 The trick is to call evil, evil while it is happening.

01:29:10.660 And that people are often not prepared to do.

01:29:14.180 The shoots of green that we referenced, you know, the silver lining, even though you I think you once put it this this way when we talked about this.

01:29:26.940 I'm not a pessimist.

01:29:28.200 I'm not an optimist.

01:29:29.300 I'm a realist.

01:29:31.020 I like that.

01:29:33.180 But there are some promising signs.

01:29:35.360 Yeah, go ahead.

01:29:37.320 I'm sorry.

01:29:38.160 I'm sorry.

01:29:38.720 I don't I didn't want to interrupt.

01:29:40.340 If you want to finish, please go right ahead.

01:29:42.060 Now, did I get your quote right or wrong?

01:29:44.740 Yes, you did.

01:29:45.500 But so I'll just I'll amplify.

01:29:47.520 I find both optimism and pessimism are often lead to inaction.

01:29:53.480 The pessimist thinks everything will turn out bad.

01:29:55.940 So why fight?

01:29:56.920 The optimist thinks everything will turn out good.

01:29:59.460 So why fight?

01:30:01.080 So I don't know if either of them is at all helpful.

01:30:03.820 All I care is if you fight.

01:30:05.960 I don't care if you're a pessimist or an optimist or a cynic.

01:30:10.060 Uh, every day is just, you know, flowers blooming.

01:30:14.640 All I care is do you fight?

01:30:16.880 Yes.

01:30:17.440 Well, they're fighting.

01:30:18.420 They are fighting.

01:30:19.420 And it's amazing to see.

01:30:21.200 Now, I'm somewhat discouraged by the fact that the guy who runs, you know, this big Apollo

01:30:26.080 group, Mark Rowan at UPenn got ignored.

01:30:29.100 If that guy is going to get ignored with his billions, it doesn't bode well for the rest

01:30:34.300 of us.

01:30:34.620 But you get enough billionaires complaining to these universities, they'll listen because

01:30:39.920 what happens is the university president has to go.

01:30:42.620 That's what they want at UPenn.

01:30:44.000 They want this woman, McGill, to go.

01:30:46.220 And I think she's going to have to, given the amount of pressure that's now getting amped

01:30:49.640 up on her, um, Leonard, no, which, which louder Ronald louder, uh, he of the S day louder fortune.

01:30:58.520 He wrote a letter to the UPenn president, McGill, uh, very angry about that Palestinian

01:31:03.520 festival and about the university's reaction to what's happened with Hamas.

01:31:08.820 By the way, it's the same university is bending over backwards to make sure Aliyah Thomas's 0.96

01:31:12.440 feelings don't get hurt.

01:31:13.680 Same university can't have any hurt feelings in the pool with, but for, of the man pretending

01:31:18.040 to be a woman, but those Jews who were worried about dying F them. 0.99

01:31:22.500 Okay.

01:31:22.920 So they were, they write a letter to her, Ron or louder saying, I am so sorry that the

01:31:28.160 graduates will now be tainted by their school's new reputation.

01:31:32.840 You forced me to reexamine my financial support, absent satisfactory measures to address the

01:31:38.180 antisemitism at the university.

01:31:39.820 He writes, let me be as clear as I can.

01:31:42.600 I do not want any of the students at the louder Institute, the best and brightest at your university

01:31:47.760 to be taught by any of the instructors who were involved with or supported this event.

01:31:55.040 The one that, you know, the Palestinian festival.

01:31:57.420 So he's making clear and voting with his dollars.

01:31:59.900 Here's, um, we talked about Winston and Strawn.

01:32:04.440 Um, Oh no, wait, let me stick on the universities.

01:32:06.340 You pen still John, uh, Jonathan Jacobson, big donor wrote to president McGill saying, I'll

01:32:13.200 accept Mark Rowan's challenge of pledging $1 a year until you leave $1.

01:32:18.900 Cause I don't want you to think it's accidental or that I've overlooked my annual donation.

01:32:22.940 He writes enough.

01:32:24.460 It's time to reverse this trend of wokeism is what he's complaining about and restore our

01:32:30.320 elite universities to the principles upon which they were founded as places of inquiry

01:32:34.820 where lively debate, diversity of opinion and communication across lines of difference

01:32:38.720 is not only cherished, but actually mandated.

01:32:42.320 He writes the university that I attended and which shaped me is virtually unrecognizable today.

01:32:47.680 And the values it stands for are not American ones.

01:32:51.980 Then you look over in the legal field and you've got Winston and Strawn firing,

01:32:58.100 reversing or revoking the offer of that rhino workman who penned the letter at NYU,

01:33:04.700 siding with Hamas entirely blaming Israel.

01:33:07.260 That was great.

01:33:07.840 Another huge law firm, Davis Polk has now revoked the authors, the offers given to three of these

01:33:14.980 students who signed the letters defending Hamas from Harvard and Columbia.

01:33:19.580 Hello, you're replaceable, utterly replaceable.

01:33:23.260 And they do better with students from other tiered schools.

01:33:27.400 Anyway, you get the students from Harvard and Columbia and Stanford, you know what you're

01:33:31.120 getting at this point.

01:33:31.800 And then there's this guy, a UC Berkeley, Berkeley professor.

01:33:37.840 Could you find a more leftist college institution who comes out saying the first in an op-ed in

01:33:44.240 the Wall Street Journal?

01:33:44.880 Then he went on Laura Ingraham last night saying, do not hire my anti-Semitic law students. 0.94

01:33:50.960 And I'm telling you, they're out there.

01:33:53.820 Here he is making the point in part on her show last night.

01:33:56.980 What we have in our universities and what people are seeing now is what's been going on

01:34:01.580 for decades.

01:34:02.300 And frankly, it's moral equivocation, justification for persecution of Jews, justification for 0.57

01:34:10.940 statements that frankly defy critical thinking.

01:34:15.240 Our universities become a bubble where the law school that I'm at, the university I'm at,

01:34:21.320 we teach political ideology.

01:34:23.320 And that political ideology does not allow for Jews to be involved and it does not, and it 1.00

01:34:31.460 allows this type of conduct.

01:34:35.180 Clearly, Dennis, all these people, the law school professors, the big donors have been

01:34:42.000 simmering for the past few years as these universities explode into ideological centers, as opposed to

01:34:49.480 places that teach you how to think critically.

01:34:51.600 And this seems to have pushed a lot of them over to the point where they are ready to fight.

01:34:58.020 They are ready to speak out.

01:35:00.540 And it is encouraging.

01:35:02.400 You know, I don't mean to lose sight of the fact that we have 1,400 dead Israelis that helped

01:35:08.800 get them there.

01:35:09.840 I mean, talk about needing something extreme.

01:35:12.480 A lot of us were there without that.

01:35:15.360 But I, like you, I'm sure, welcome them to the fight.

01:35:20.280 If this is what awakens the liberal, a lot of conservatives took issue with me when I

01:35:28.220 divided, as I do every single day, between liberalism and leftism.

01:35:33.760 The tragedy is that liberals don't make that division.

01:35:36.600 They don't realize that the left is out to destroy liberalism as much as it is to destroy

01:35:42.480 conservatism.

01:35:43.640 If this is the awakening, then both of us obviously would say that there is something

01:35:51.280 massively good to come out of it.

01:35:54.300 There is a voice in me that is worried that it may not last.

01:36:01.020 But I welcome any awakening that will take place among the liberal masses, if you will.

01:36:11.500 You know, my first education about UPenn was when the English department, the English department

01:36:20.720 took down its large mural of William Shakespeare, the greatest writer who ever wrote in the English

01:36:27.660 language.

01:36:28.220 You would think that that's what the English department at any university, let alone an

01:36:33.280 Ivy League one, would celebrate.

01:36:35.560 But they took it down and they said why?

01:36:37.960 Because he was a white European male. 0.79

01:36:41.220 And so they put up a non-white, non-male who was gay, whom no one heard of. 0.77

01:36:48.600 Because they don't celebrate English or English literature at the English department.

01:36:56.860 They celebrate race-based ideology.

01:37:01.340 This did not awaken the liberal.

01:37:05.120 Leah Thomas did not awaken the liberal. 0.99

01:37:07.600 A man who shows his genitals to the females on the swim team because he says he's a woman and 0.65

01:37:16.140 then competes and defeats women in swimming when he couldn't defeat men in swimming. 0.97

01:37:20.720 This didn't awaken them.

01:37:22.760 All right.

01:37:23.680 Then I welcome...

01:37:25.040 Hello, liberals. 0.75

01:37:25.740 Now you know what we have been talking about all these years with regard to the universities

01:37:32.200 and the high schools and the elementary schools.

01:37:36.140 But did it really have to take literal genocidal aims against Jews once again to awaken you?

01:37:43.960 And if it did, welcome.

01:37:46.200 We want you and we embrace you.

01:37:48.360 But there were a lot of signs prior to October 7th.

01:37:55.880 Yeah.

01:37:56.800 Better late than never.

01:37:59.120 Yes, that's right.

01:38:00.800 Bless you.

01:38:01.660 That's right.

01:38:02.940 The professor at Cornell, another Ivy League, his name is Russell Rickford.

01:38:07.820 He was out there saying it's exhilarating to see all these, you know, see what Hamas did. 0.95

01:38:12.220 He was excited by all the dead Israelis, apparently. 1.00

01:38:15.300 That's the word he used.

01:38:16.300 Um, he was not named by Cornell.

01:38:20.520 Cornell put out, the president put out a statement saying, oh, I'm horrified.

01:38:23.660 And, you know, random professors who say things, they don't speak for the university.

01:38:27.940 We named him and have no problem with that.

01:38:30.320 Just FYI, he canceled his class yesterday because, quote, a family member had an urgent

01:38:36.680 medical issue.

01:38:38.660 Sure, Russell.

01:38:40.000 Sure.

01:38:40.820 But I just want to point out the double standard because schools like Cornell, and I remember

01:38:44.700 that one in particular, they made the life of guys like William Jacobson, Bill Jacobson,

01:38:49.520 a living hell.

01:38:50.620 He was a professor who pointed out some of the nonsense about BLM and called him out on

01:38:55.340 the rioting and the looting.

01:38:57.060 They named him.

01:38:58.460 They had no problem coming out against him and another professor there who dared to object

01:39:03.480 to that nonsense. 0.99

01:39:04.740 But this guy so far is having them run cover and is getting away with lies like, oh, sick 0.99

01:39:10.420 family member.

01:39:11.500 He should have nothing to do with students.

01:39:13.440 He should be fired.

01:39:14.580 He should be dismissed immediately, as should all of these professors.

01:39:17.740 Having a political difference is one thing.

01:39:19.540 Supporting terror in the wake of dead civilians, 1,400 of them, is quite another.

01:39:25.380 Dennis Prager, you were the man for the occasion.

01:39:28.340 Thank you so, so much for being here.

01:39:30.180 All the best to you.

01:39:31.520 It's an honor to be with you.

01:39:32.640 So my heart goes out today to our Israeli friends.

01:39:37.680 I just think about, you know, my Jewish friends sending their kids to school on a day like

01:39:41.120 this, a day of rage.

01:39:43.120 Another one.

01:39:44.120 Didn't we just have like a day of jihad last week?

01:39:46.340 Now we got a day of rage.

01:39:47.800 I'm sorry.

01:39:48.480 I'm going to have to steal something from Dan Bongino. 1.00

01:39:50.500 Fuck your day of rage. 1.00

01:39:52.300 Okay. 1.00

01:39:53.400 Fuck your day of rage. 1.00

01:39:54.400 This is America. 1.00

01:39:55.240 We're going to go out.

01:39:56.020 We're going to live our lives.

01:39:57.280 We're going to exercise reasonable caution, but we're not going to live in fear.

01:40:01.200 And I pray that the Israelis can do the same at some point soon.

01:40:07.380 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

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The Megyn Kelly Show - October 18, 2023

Media and Left Botch Gaza Hospital Story, and Campus Anti-Semitism Grows, with Buck Sexton and Dennis Prager ｜ Ep. 650

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