Media Loves Stormy Daniels, and Previewing ＂Mr. Birchum,＂ with Adam Carolla, Brett Cooper, and Kyle Dunnigan ｜ Ep. 785
Episode Stats
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1 hour and 11 minutes
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190.52744
Summary
Mr. Burcham is a woodshop teacher who s having trouble dealing with a world gone woke. He doesn t much like children, or anyone other than his daughter and maybe his wife. And Adam created this character years ago, but no network would touch it for fear of offending the wrong people.
Transcript
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on SiriusXM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, coming to you live today from SiriusXM in Los Angeles, California.
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Here to see Gavin Newsom for a tough, hard-hitting interview. No, I'm not. No, he would not agree to that. He's not that dumb.
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I'm in L.A. for the premiere of The Daily Wire's first animated scripted series, Mr. Burcham.
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Mr. Burcham is a character created decades ago by a friend of the show, Adam Carolla.
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He's a woodshop teacher who's having trouble dealing with a world gone woke.
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He doesn't much like children, or kind of anyone other than his daughter and maybe his wife.
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And Adam created this character years ago, but no network would touch it for fear of offending the wrong people.
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It features a star-studded cast, including comedians Roseanne, Kyle Dunnigan.
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Do you guys remember when he came on the show and he did, like, trans-Trump? You gotta do it. It was amazing.
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Jay Moore, remember him? Jerry Maguire. Daily Wire's own Brett Cooper.
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I'm actually making my... Okay, the script says acting debut. That's not true.
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If I repeat after Nate, who is the guy who walked me through it, debut.
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As the voice of Mr. Burcham's super hot... No, she's not.
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So we all gathered together last night to premiere the very first episode,
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which you can watch this weekend at Daily Wire Plus.
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There are some really great school uniform options to avoid misgendering.
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Ooh, what about their allergies? Maybe those theys could be lactose intolerant.
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No, we can't say intolerance. We have a zero-tolerance policy for mentioning intolerance.
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Watch Mr. Burcham, an all-new animated series from Daily Wire Plus.
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All right, if you want to check it out, head to dailywireplus.com.
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Enter the code MEGAN25 to sign up for a Daily Wire Plus annual membership,
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When Brett Cooper, Kyle Dunnigan, and Roseanne joined me in just a bit,
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but we begin today with the man who started it all, my TV husband, Adam Carolla.
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It was an early, early, late night and early morning.
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But I made it with the moments to spare, and I drove through to get here from where my house is.
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I had to go right through one homeless encampment to another homeless encampment.
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I went from the Glendale homeless encampment to the Hollywood homeless encampment,
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I saw just last night at the premiere, which was in Hollywood,
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you basically had to step through tents to make it into the building.
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Let me give your listeners, fans, a very true and real world example of what L.A. is,
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if they kind of want to know what it is in a nutshell.
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They're very tough on taxpayers and very easy on criminals or homeless people or whatever.
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And if you're in the class that they have regulations and rules for, you have lots of
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So meaning, I had a friend who opened a restaurant several blocks from here.
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And they said, well, the restaurant's not really ready, but we can't really do the takeout
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And he said, we don't have one of those blowers.
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That when you open the window to hand them the sandwiches, the air flows the opposite
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I said, you can't just open your window and give someone a sandwich.
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No, they won't let us open until we get our blower in from Canada or whatever.
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I said, up and down the same street you're on, there's people shopping carts with propane
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tanks, cooking hot dogs and selling to everyone.
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We know mayonnaise tub that came from Silmar in the back of a van.
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There's people just serving food on the street everywhere.
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They care about us because we have a license and a liquor license and pay taxes and what
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I called the Malibu Anna Walt Lumber, a lumber store, because like Mr.
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Burcham carpenter, and I was building a project and I called the Anna Walt Lumber in Malibu.
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And I said, you got three quarters CDX Goodwin side plywood.
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And I said, you have pressure treated two by fours.
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And they said, yeah, we got pressure treated two by fours, which is just two by fours that
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And I said, they said, we can cut the plywood if you want, but we can't cut the pressure treated
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two by fours because it's an OSHA regulation, meaning the two by fours have something in
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I guarantee you can cut a pressure treated two by four at an Anna Walt Lumber in any state
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And by the way, when you buy your two by fours, you just go home and cut them, but they can't
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But there's throngs of homeless people flopped out everywhere.
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And if you drive down PCH a mile away from Anna Walt Lumber, there's going to be beat up
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Winnebago's just parked on the side of the street.
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People dealing meth and, you know, living out of those things.
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So it's like infinite regulation for people who follow rules, like literally telling a
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business who's a lumber yard, you can't cut some of the wood that you sell because OSHA
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will not allow it, but you can flop anywhere, sleep anywhere and throw as much garbage on
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Well, yeah, I'm last night I was like, are we in a bad area of town?
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And they're like, no, you're just in Hollywood.
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What you were saying reminded me of, we took a trip recently as a family and in my toiletry
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bag, which we were carrying on, I had a pair of scissors, you know, they're kind of like,
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whatever, they're kind of long, not a full sheer, but pretty close to a full sheer.
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My daughter had a like six ounce bottle of Johnson's baby shampoo.
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It's like, you can see this is a 12 year old girl with a, and it was not opened yet.
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They'd glue that seal back on after putting the colored nitroglycerin in the bottle.
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You know, their advertisement for Johnson's baby shampoo was no more tears, but that day
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This is just the kind of thing that Mr. Bertram would be railing about.
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So I tell you last night, I thought it was very cool.
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I've, I've never been to one of those things before, like a premiere of a show.
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And, um, I love that you had a wooden carpet because Mr. Bertram is a shopkeeper instead
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I think you said shopkeeper, which makes me an old time guy who sells candles.
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I think it's fair to say that when we went on stage after the premiere of the first
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She's do, she was doing this thing where she was laughing loud in her Roseanne laugh at
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And then when she got up there, she talked a bit about what it meant to her to come back.
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This is her first animated series since the cancellation, first TV series, really, since
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Were you surprised at, you know, how it still weighs on her?
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You know, I'll tell you one thing I've, I've really learned from celebrities is you think
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maybe they're wired different than other folk and maybe they don't see things or hang on
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to things or, or, or they have so much money that it really doesn't things sort of roll
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off of them because they land in this beautiful house with beautiful accoutrements and drive
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Most celebrities I know hang on to stuff and have sort of just as much sort of rage, jealousy,
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animosity as anybody I've ever worked with on a construction site that, and more like
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Like if you talk to Sylvester Stallone, you're not going to talk about all the victories.
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You're going to talk about some movie that was supposed to, you know, he'll, yeah, you'll
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break, you'll talk about Cobra or Driven or something like one of his movies that didn't
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And then he'll go into this thing about, we had a good script and the executive screwed
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And I was like, okay, let's just talk about Rocky.
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Right now they it's, but I think there is something in the achievers.
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Were they, every pro athlete I've ever, any big time pro successful athlete I've ever
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interviewed can tell you when they screwed up in the game in high school or when they
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screwed up in the game in college, like it's baked into their mind.
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They, they remember the losses and they, they're really hard on themselves and they really dwell
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I mean, Roseanne's not hard on herself, but they're angry about the losses.
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The woman who made a million dollars an episode when she was the queen of sitcoms and, you
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Where it's, I look at her, I'm like, she's Roseanne.
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You know, she's one of those people who, you know, by a first name, she's so gifted.
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She got completely ramroded by her fellow castmates by, uh, ABC, by the executives and
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And she's still really, and you know, you think back to how they took that show away from
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her when it was, she, she had brought it back and they were number one again.
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It's the cowardly castmates that drive me nuts in this equation.
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I mean, like we've been out here for a long time.
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Are they actually like capable of being good friends?
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I did, I did her show the blab or the talk or the yak or whatever the hell they call it,
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She gave me some sort of 10 minute dissertation on what lesbians were or something.
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Speaking of sex lives, um, let's talk a little Stormy Daniels because, yeah, you, I don't
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know if whether Mr. Burcham watches the news, but, um, I think you'd have some strong opinions
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on the woman who took the stand yesterday in the Trump trial.
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Adam, she got up there and I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you about her walk into
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I'm going to let, uh, our mutual friend, Lawrence O'Donnell, not true, uh, tell us both
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about his impressions of her walking into that courtroom.
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The excitement and anticipation in the room hit a new high at 10 32 a.m.
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She entered wearing all black as if on her way to a funeral.
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The loose fitting plain black clothing draping from her shoulders to her toes suggested the
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The makeup was minimal, the way she and the other moms in her neighborhood might look when
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The long blonde hair held up with a clip at the back of her head, the way it might be in
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a utilitarian way while she was doing dishes or checking one of the horseshoes on her horse.
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She was alone in the room with him that first time.
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This time there were over a hundred people in the room, all watching her, except him.
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He's I don't I you know what I want to say to all these adults who are in the news industry.
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Was it to bust the lid off of stories like this?
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Is it to just use nothing but hyperbole to essentially try to turn a zero burger into
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I feel this way about almost everybody in media these days.
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What would your dad say who paid for you to go to college and then journalism school to
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This is their Super Bowl, their Oscars in all of it wrapped into the World Series wrapped
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And this plus when Michael Cohen takes the stand, this is the apex of their event.
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They wanted to hear her talk about Trump and how brief the sexual interlude was because
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Who I interviewed on my podcast once and in the almost 4,000 podcast episodes I've done,
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it was the only time I said to a guest, I am going to hang up if you do not reel it in.
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Like if you cannot maintain yourself, I'm going to hang up.
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I started off with my family, went into my friends, went into, you know, teaching boxing,
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working on a construction site, doing love line.
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I've known a lot of nut jobs and have given a lot of leeway.
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Michael Cohen was literally the only person I've ever said, if you don't reel it in, because
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he was so agitated and kind of unprofessional and stupid, I said, I am going to hang up
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It was a January 6th thing where I said, I think it was a riot, but I don't think it
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And, and the thing about Stormy, we're going to get this to this in more detail with a full
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legal panel in a show we're going to release later today.
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But I have to say the thing about Stormy is what shocked me the most, she completely
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It, it went from this casual description, uh, back in, you know, when she first came
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out with this publicly of, well, you know, he was interesting and he was nice and, you
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You know, he was a nice guy to, I, I, I blacked out this, her new testimony is the blood left
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I, I, the room was spinning and he was stopping me from getting out because he was sitting
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on the bed between me exiting the bathroom and the door, but in a non-threatening manner.
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Oh, and by the way, I didn't say no, but you know, I didn't know how I got here.
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It's a bullshit me too revisionism and everyone's buying it.
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Go through this with the Supreme court justice nomination and Blasey Ford or whatever that
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I was raped in high school at a party at a house.
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Uh, no more doctors for people who aren't actual physicians.
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If you're on an airplane and somebody has a heart attack and the stewardess gets on the
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blower and says, is there a doctor on this flight?
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Jill Biden's going to keep her ass planted in her seat, right?
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I don't know what she does, but the point is, is she's useless.
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So if somebody says, is there a doctor on a flight and you stand up, you're a doctor.
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Other than that, I do not want you to call doctor.
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You've got to be able to save someone on a flight.
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You're right in my sweet spot here because this, the need, the insistence by the White
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House to call her Dr. Jill Biden at every appearance.
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I know, but it's all just part and parcel of the whole sort of ruse, right?
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You should, you should be calling me doctor right now.
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Dr. Wendy Burcham if you really wanted to pay me the respect I deserve.
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So you talked last night a bit about who inspired these characters.
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These are actually the guy who was the super woke DEI instructor.
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He's based on like, I don't know if he's based on everybody, but everybody in the,
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in the show is based on like a real principal you dealt with or a gym coach you
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So how did you come up with, I'll start with Carponzi because that's a super woke
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guy who I freaking love that he steals the show.
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And I think we have an acronym for him that works out to be Jedi, but I can't.
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See, you know more about the script than I paid attention.
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The, the, his character is just really a compilation of all the idiots who've been
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trying to force this stuff down our throat for the last 10 years.
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So his character sort of represents society at large, you know, his character represents
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everybody who was wrong about COVID, everyone who was wrong about anything that comes down
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the pike January 6th or whatever, whatever the, the cause du jour, Hunter Biden laptop,
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I'm a heteronormative, cisgendered white male for which I apologize.
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So Carponzi represents society or at least the society that Burcham would like to push back
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Burcham is based on all the shop teachers I had in junior high who were these tough,
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scary, big forearm guys who hated kids and were mean as hell, but like the idea of getting
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paid to be indoors around equipment and work in a wood shop.
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But the problem is, is they sort of thought their shop was like their own shop and the kids
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were kind of a nuisance that who were coming in and wanting to use their bandsaw and their
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And that's the way it felt to me in junior high.
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And I also learned that shop teachers don't have to have teaching credentials.
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They need to have like 10 years in the trades and then they can teach.
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So these are guys who didn't go to college, never wanted to work with kids, didn't want
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They're just carpenters and metalworking guys who are out of a job essentially and end up
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So they had no bedside etiquette and they didn't like kids.
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And none of the shop teachers at Walter Reed junior high in North Hollywood, when I went
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So I always had it in my head that it was a funny archetype that here were these guys
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going to school every day to work with kids, but they hated kids.
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I will say that the timing for this is perfect.
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And by the way, again, if you're just listening now, you can sign up for it over at Daily Wire
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You get a discount, big discount on membership there.
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Burcham and you can watch the first, I think, and second episode for free this weekend.
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Um, but we need a guy like Burcham more than ever.
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Burchams in our K through 12 and certainly college education right now, because we, of
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course, are producing a bunch of like soft, I wanted to run this clip for you.
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It's not really on our agenda to talk about the protests on campus today, but I do want
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Because they're having the hunger strike there.
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I am quite literally shaking right now, as you can see.
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And based on the university's meeting yesterday with some of our bargaining team, they would
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love to continue physically weakening us because they can't stand to say no to unjust murder.
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I do appreciate the daisy chaining of the bullhorns.
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Some ingenuity the way they daisy chained the bullhorns.
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Why did she have to read the statement about how we are both hot and cold at the same time?
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All young people put everything in their phone now, and they'll do a toast at a wedding, and
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there'll be some 26-year-old chick going, I was a maid of honor, and I just want to thank
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It's like, I should just at some point commit things to memory.
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You did your whole bit on doctor without looking at a thing.
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So, back to Bertram, because I'm just showing that Bertram has real-life applications.
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I'm driving my 17-year-old daughter and her 17-year-old friend over to the premiere last
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And they're both going to graduate high school seniors.
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And I said, do you know anything about Bertram or what, you know, kids?
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They don't know anything about Bertram, but they don't know anything about anything about
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You know, they pay him, you know, we get a swimming pool.
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But I said, well, let me tell you about Bertram, like how it works.
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Just so when you go watch the premiere, you'll have some context of where this guy comes from.
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I said, you know, you guys have shop class, right?
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I said, you know, shop, you know, wood shop, metal shop, auto shop.
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And I'm like, but shop, you know what shop is, right?
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You didn't take shop class, but they had, they got metal shop.
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They got auto, you know, someone who takes auto shop, right?
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Like your whole, both your high schools, they go to two different high schools.
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Well, we have electives, you know, we could take cooking or something.
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I have to say, like our, all three of our kids have come home with some, my son made a chair.
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Little table, actually a little table, like legit.
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The lack of sort of shop and working with tools and understanding.
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When you work with tools, each one represents a potential danger.
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So, um, routers are different than circular saws.
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And circular saws are different than drills and drills are different than bayonet saws,
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And when you handle a lot of tools, even just jacking a car up in getting underneath the
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Yes, but you must jack up the car because you must get under it and fix the car.
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So you don't have an, uh, an alternative, but you have to do it correctly, but also time
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So each tool sort of represents, should you wear goggles?
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Does this thing torque this way or kick back that way?
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Like if you take a table saw, if you take a piece of wood and you put it between two
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saw horses and you think you're going to cut it down the middle, it'll bind and pinch as
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If you wanted to cut it, you'd let the end hang over, but you wouldn't put it in between.
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It'll go down and immediately bind and kick back.
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The point is, is when you learn these things and you have a relationship with danger.
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And then that will, that will carry over into things like COVID, but we didn't have a relationship.
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We had people wearing masks alone in a car because they don't have the relationship with
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When Mike Rowe came on, he made a similar point.
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He was talking about how now we're at the point where if you're at a don't walk sign
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and you look left and you look right, and there are no cars for miles.
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I do that with red lights and I do that with red turn arrows and I do it with everything.
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If I'm there and there's no one around, I'm gone.
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If you're not a moron and you actually have decent eyes, it's fine.
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There is no one here I can see just as well, better than the camera above me can see.
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Anyway, this is one of the many efforts by Adam Carolla to fight back against this nonsense
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I mean, you know, I'm a fan and it's always nice to work with people that you like working
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We're not done because Brett Cooper, she's a star over at The Daily Wire.
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I think she's got, I don't know, 7 million YouTube followers.
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And you'll see why, because she's a very talented, dynamic, funny young woman.
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She is the host of the comments section with Brett Cooper for The Daily Wire.
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She also plays my daughter in the new animated series, Mr. Burcham.
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It's like, you know you're old when you start to see other grown, accomplished humans and
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And just like, talk to me a little bit about how you got into this, because as I mentioned
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in the preview to your appearance, you've taken off at The Daily Wire.
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You really do have an effervescent personality.
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Actually, out here in Los Angeles, this is my first time being back since I moved four
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So much has changed, but a lot has not changed at all.
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I was back in Burbank last night after the premiere.
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I went to my favorite donut shop my mom and I used to go to.
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Anyway, so grew up here in front of the camera.
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I love communicating with an audience via this medium, you know, behind the camera.
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And so I had been working on that for literally 10 years.
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Lost a lot of my friends due to my political beliefs and my values and kind of found a home
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making social media videos about current events and culture.
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And then Daily Wire literally slid into my DMs and said, would you want to start a show
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I want to talk about that because it's very rare to find a 22-year-old who's, you know,
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living in LA who's more on the right side of things doing open social commentary on
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But first, let's show the audience a little bit of this is the two of us in a clip from
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Mom, there's clear mahogany under here, except some idiot painted over it with this horrible white
00:31:09.460
White helps mommy peeve for family vacations and this $800 pantsuit we'll never tell your
00:31:33.900
And how would you like it if somebody covered you in white paint?
00:31:40.580
This is the premise of the show that you are Burcham's daughter and my daughter, too.
00:31:44.260
But like you are more his daughter in terms of your love for wood working and shop things.
00:31:48.880
And then there's a son who's kind of a loaf, played by Kyle Donegan, who's here next, who
00:31:54.100
doesn't quite have your ambition in the woodworking field.
00:31:59.820
Well, I learned a lot of the names, but I have never used any of them.
00:32:04.160
So it was a lot of very, very fake knowledge from pretending that I know a lot about it.
00:32:08.440
And I still want to go do some woodworking with Adam.
00:32:11.040
I told him I was like, I need to go to the woodshop.
00:32:14.100
If we do another season, like I need to fully be prepped.
00:32:26.860
Truly just wants to be anything that her father is.
00:32:31.520
Although we're never together in the same room when we shoot this.
00:32:37.720
The guys came to me and they kind of tell you what to say.
00:32:40.480
I mean, the people last night was like, how are you enjoying like your acting debut?
00:32:45.440
What you did is acting because you know what you're doing.
00:32:50.800
And so it was kind of fun to see it all laid in.
00:32:53.340
But as you're an actual actress, it must have been weird for you not to.
00:32:56.840
Voiceover is very, very different because when you are acting on film, you create such a
00:33:02.960
And you, like I was in Hungary filming The Pendragon Cycle for Daily Wire as well.
00:33:06.460
And so we had this cast where we lived abroad together for five and a half months.
00:33:14.220
You are, you know, going over the night before to work on a scene that you're shooting the
00:33:17.860
Like it is very, very integrated and you create this bond.
00:33:23.060
And so you just have to rely on your own chops and what you know the script to be.
00:33:29.220
And so I really, really admire voiceover actors.
00:33:31.060
I had not done voiceover since I was about 10 years old or so.
00:33:34.540
So it, you know, brought me back in a lot of ways.
00:33:36.740
But I would say it is much more challenging than other forms of acting.
00:33:41.020
I mean, it would be fun to be together, but it's weird because the whole series, season
00:33:46.640
Even though we've had several, several scenes together.
00:33:54.500
How did you wind up more conservative to the point where you would say it out loud in
00:34:02.500
I was not raised in a political home by any means.
00:34:08.800
I'm not really interested in hard politics or D.C.
00:34:16.060
And so we had a lot of conversations about what our family values, you know, personal
00:34:22.620
And those were the discussions that we had at our dinner tables.
00:34:25.700
And when things would come up in my life, whether it were, it was friends or in scripts
00:34:29.720
that I was reading, I honestly think that that is where the majority of my value education
00:34:34.200
came from is because from age eight years old, I was being given scripts for auditions and
00:34:40.580
And we would always discuss what is the meaning of the script?
00:34:43.440
What is the writer trying to convey to audiences?
00:34:47.040
What do you think the character is trying to say?
00:34:48.280
And those are things that you need to know as an actor.
00:34:50.720
But my mom wanted to make sure that I never just fully lost myself in these characters.
00:34:54.580
And so she was like, how is that different than what we believe, than what you believe?
00:34:57.960
What is she, what is this character trying to say to the world?
00:35:02.760
And by articulating that and identifying it, I was able to go, oh, that does not make sense.
00:35:06.260
That's not actually something that I want to put out into the world.
00:35:09.180
And I think that was one of the reasons why I really took a step back from acting while
00:35:13.280
I was in college because I felt so conflicted because I would read these scripts and say,
00:35:20.120
I would turn down scripts all the time that had nudity, you know, for characters that
00:35:28.220
But I thought very consciously about all of that.
00:35:34.620
And when COVID started happening, I was faced with a lot of anger and hatred from friends
00:35:42.580
These were friends that were my closest friends, was about to live with in the next year.
00:35:46.360
I was in a sorority and all of that kind of blew up in my face and I realized, oh my gosh,
00:35:54.400
And we were close friends and I spent hours upon hours and was going to live with you.
00:35:57.740
And suddenly you hate me and are basically threatening me and are throwing, you know,
00:36:01.200
communist manifestos at my head at parties, calling me a racist.
00:36:08.540
I walked into a party at UCLA at one point and simply because I was from Tennessee and because
00:36:13.460
we had had a conversation where we were talking about the primaries in January of 2020.
00:36:17.140
And I said, no, I'm not going to vote in the primaries for Biden.
00:36:19.780
And then they, oh, you know, you're going to vote for Bernie.
00:36:22.100
I was like, no, I'm actually not going to do either of those.
00:36:26.820
And that next week I walked into a party and one of them stood up on a table and said,
00:36:34.260
And I was just, and so everything, and then COVID happened and COVID for me in terms of my
00:36:38.780
education and my social circles and everything else in my life, it was a blessing in disguise.
00:36:43.640
Obviously the way it turned out for the world was awful, but I think that it gave me a lot
00:36:48.200
It forced me to reflect a lot about the people that I was surrounding myself with, the industry
00:36:52.720
It pulled me out of an education, an educational environment that I think was very difficult
00:36:59.680
You know how the left always uses the word toxic.
00:37:12.320
I started making these videos for PragerU and Young Americans for Liberty.
00:37:16.640
It's like, if I was going to put myself out there because I knew what it felt like to be
00:37:20.880
so alienated, to not see my values represented anywhere in my circles, in my industry, online,
00:37:30.920
It's like, if 22-year-olds want to get conservative commentary, they can get it anywhere.
00:37:34.980
But not necessarily from a really smart 22-year-old young woman.
00:37:39.360
I did not see the kind of content that I'm creating now.
00:37:44.260
I think that's also why it took off so quickly is because I was filling a niche that I personally
00:37:49.220
cared so much about that I knew I wanted to exist in the world.
00:37:52.600
Because coming up as somebody that was more right-wing, that had traditional values, valued
00:37:56.780
common sense, like I would listen to, you know, I would listen to Dennis Prager.
00:38:00.400
I would listen to Matt Walsh and Michael Knowles and Candace.
00:38:07.540
And so we would listen to him on car rides and Rush Limbaugh, but nobody was my age.
00:38:11.420
And then I would go on to YouTube and social media and I would watch all these people that
00:38:14.600
I love and follow and I want style inspiration from you and I love this actor.
00:38:18.400
But then I would listen to, you know, the Vanity Fair roundtables and go,
00:38:20.880
I disagree with literally everything you're saying, even though you're my age.
00:38:25.340
So what's, I mean, when you look around your age group, what's happening with young women?
00:38:30.000
Because what, I mean, my impression from, you know, way over on the other side is everyone's
00:38:35.560
Everyone's getting enormous boobs and enormous butts.
00:38:38.700
They're having all this fat sucked out of their waist to try to make it look like some
00:38:41.840
sort of a weird, you know, character, anime character.
00:38:45.980
There's something seriously wrong with that person.
00:38:47.680
I like, I don't understand what, I really think she might've had ribs removed.
00:38:54.580
I don't like the beauty message that entire family projects.
00:38:58.180
But you wound up okay because you had good parents.
00:39:05.540
But when you look around your generation, like what do you see women, young women doing
00:39:10.960
I think young women are just lying to themselves.
00:39:14.740
We've been lied to by the Kardashian type figures that have given us beauty standards
00:39:19.860
that are completely unrealistic, that have told us that the ideal is to be plastic, that
00:39:24.200
you need to change everything about yourself to be desirable, not just to men, but to the
00:39:30.840
Have you seen that young women my age are now getting Botox because it's preventative?
00:39:39.940
It's like, you are, this is the most ridiculous, ridiculous thing.
00:39:42.480
Obviously if you want to do it later in life, you know, that's your prerogative, but at
00:39:47.900
But they have been told that that is their ideal.
00:39:50.520
And I think a lot of the pressure then comes from women because as other women start to
00:39:54.360
do it, then younger women on social media see it and think that that is what they need
00:39:58.860
Can I tell you, I just had a quick, I want you to finish, but this is why, you remember
00:40:01.980
when Dolly Parton performed, was it the Super Bowl and she came out and she, it wasn't
00:40:05.220
the Super Bowl, it was like maybe country music awards.
00:40:07.280
Anyway, she had a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader outfit on and I think she's 77 years old or maybe
00:40:11.060
even older and I found it both inspirational and depressing.
00:40:20.180
But then I also kind of missed the days where women were just allowed to age and we didn't
00:40:23.960
have to try to look 22 when we were 82 and that would be fine.
00:40:27.620
That's that beauty standard did change and you were judged accordingly.
00:40:30.700
You didn't have to be in a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader.
00:40:33.560
Yeah, but I think that a lot of that has pushed women in a wrong and dangerous direction.
00:40:39.980
I also think that society has been telling them for years that hookup culture is good
00:40:45.260
I mean, I think of like the 2016 Hillary Clinton era feminism and the Sheryl Sandberg lean in
00:40:51.380
and girl bossing like that took off in the mid 2010s and pushed women in this direction
00:40:55.020
and now 10 years later they're going, I'm not, I'm not happy.
00:41:02.000
I have given myself over to this corporate career, which is ironic because they sit online
00:41:06.380
and say that they hate the man, they hate the patriarchy, they hate capitalism.
00:41:09.380
And yet the one thing that they dedicate their life to is sitting in a cubicle and being a
00:41:12.960
girl boss for Meta or Google or whatever you want to say.
00:41:16.580
And so I think that women, number one, have been lied to, but then they've made the choice
00:41:24.020
I'm happy hooking up every night and having no commitments.
00:41:26.000
And I think that they're waking up because obviously that is not what we are, you know,
00:41:37.320
The most important thing to me is when I meet women, you know, out just when I'm walking
00:41:40.840
around in the world and they come up to me and they say that they watch the show.
00:41:42.980
It's just the greatest feeling because again, I'm creating that content.
00:41:45.680
It's a great feeling for me to hear that too because we need young women hearing alternative
00:41:49.500
There's so many of them that come up to me and it's amazing.
00:41:51.920
The other side is fed to them on a silver platter.
00:41:56.840
They're featured in everywhere and everything in left-wing media.
00:42:00.580
And, you know, the right wing, it's like you have to watch it subversively if you are
00:42:07.000
They're starting to do it as a backlash to this over, I don't know, it's not an overcorrection.
00:42:11.540
It's just the overpromotion of like Women's History Month and Black History Month and Gay
00:42:18.140
I think subversively they're starting to look for alternative sources of information, even the
00:42:23.960
So on the subject of men, though, you're married.
00:42:34.780
How do you find, because I'm worried, we were talking with Adam about Mr. Carpanzi in
00:42:38.700
Bircham, who's got the man bun and he wears a sign that reads, the future is female.
00:42:46.300
And he's a completely emasculated version of a man.
00:42:49.920
I just don't think any woman really would want to sleep with a man like that.
00:42:54.180
I can't understand a woman who would want to sleep with a man.
00:42:58.820
More and more young men are becoming more Carpanzi-esque than they are Bircham-esque.
00:43:02.160
I call them the wet cigarette men, the Timothee Chalamet's.
00:43:07.380
I don't know why, but it's just like that and Machine Gun Kelly, that style, that genre
00:43:13.540
On my show, I always say you're a wet cigarette man.
00:43:15.740
You're limp and you're kind of grunge and kind of nasty.
00:43:18.900
And I don't know if you shower and you're very, very skinny.
00:43:22.500
It's true, and I always say, but no, the 2024 dating landscape is a hellscape for sure.
00:43:28.400
I feel so awful because I read my comments and I have so many people, both men and women,
00:43:38.380
I don't know if I just need to, I was talking with Jordan about this on his podcast.
00:43:41.120
I was like, I don't know if you need to set up something after your shows, after your
00:43:44.640
lectures where you have them all, like all the cute men in their suits and the girls that
00:43:49.120
I don't know what it is, but something because they're out there and they are desperately searching.
00:43:56.920
And most people are still trying to meet partners on dating apps.
00:44:02.920
Okay, so Bumble was created in 2014 to empower women.
00:44:06.120
It is the feminist dating app, and women had to make the first move.
00:44:09.260
And so they did that, so the women were in the driver's seat.
00:44:11.280
They did not have to get any unsolicited sexual pictures, no cringe comments from men.
00:44:17.520
So it's like Tinder and Hinge where you swipe, but the women have to send the first message.
00:44:21.000
Well, 10 years later, apparently it's a burden.
00:44:25.120
That's the whole reason that the app was created, but now they're saying, oh, it's too hard.
00:44:30.280
So they created this system where Bumble sends an automatic message from the woman.
00:44:34.700
So technically it is still from the woman, but Bumble, the app, is sending it.
00:44:38.820
The men have to create the clever, interesting, personalized response.
00:44:43.140
And then the woman on the other side of the screen gets to think, hmm, is that clever enough?
00:44:47.140
I mean, it's just, that is like, those are the apps.
00:44:50.280
They have become a game, and they are designed to keep you on the app.
00:44:52.840
Like, those apps make money by you not meeting somebody and not having a fulfilling relationship.
00:44:57.140
Those two, that whole need like we saw behind the social network, that's behind the dating apps, too?
00:45:02.660
And I remember, like, I think that there is a way that you can use them well.
00:45:05.740
I was actually on Dennis Prager's show, gosh, like four years ago.
00:45:09.740
This was at the very beginning when I was starting to do this kind of work.
00:45:13.080
And we were talking about dating, and I wasn't dating anybody at the time.
00:45:16.620
And he had said, I think that you should be on dating apps because you live in California.
00:45:19.400
And he said, if you use them correctly, and you put all your values out there, and you say, I am a Christian, I am conservative.
00:45:25.180
He's like, even if you're not fully conservative, just say that you are on the right.
00:45:27.980
Put them all out there, because then you'll weed out all of the terrible people.
00:45:31.460
Yeah, so it's good, good screening if you're willing to put yourself out there.
00:45:35.360
But even then, you get so many bots and so many people that are playing around.
00:45:42.120
It's very difficult for people to meet, and my heart goes out to people.
00:45:46.460
But I do hope that by consuming content, you know, like mine and like yours and other young people like Isabel Brown and Amalek Anobi.
00:45:55.600
But consuming our kind of content, you know, young people, I hope that they are inspired to speak out and meet people in the real world and be brave about sharing their values so that they can then meet somebody who shares their values.
00:46:11.240
And for anybody who they allow to access their life.
00:46:16.260
So I got to ask you, how did you and your husband meet?
00:46:22.440
He left afterwards, but it was never expected to meet somebody through work.
00:46:27.780
But honestly, I was actually talking to Dennis about it last night because we were saying, you know, you told me to go on dating apps.
00:46:35.720
So his advice was not as needed because then I moved to Idaho and then I moved to Tennessee.
00:46:44.860
It's very bold and very optimistic of you to get married so young.
00:46:48.480
I wish I had met my husband at 22 and that we had gotten married then, but-
00:46:53.780
I mean, everything that I do now, obviously, I think that we're pretty traditional, but we also have a bit of an untraditional marriage because I work and I'm obviously very much in the public eye.
00:47:03.760
But he's the reason why I feel confident enough to do all of this.
00:47:07.740
His support, his passion for it, his excitement about all of it.
00:47:11.540
It's like he is, and our marriage is the most important thing in my life, but it also propels everything else.
00:47:21.300
He's an amazing, like, intellectual sparring partner.
00:47:34.060
I don't know why I wasn't invited to the wedding.
00:47:36.280
I'm going to have to talk to your dad about that.
00:47:54.160
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Joining me now is stand-up comedian and Eddie, my cartoon son, in the soon-to-be-hit series,
00:49:07.860
Kyle was on with us back in April 2022 in episode 291, and my entire family and I are still laughing
00:49:23.500
Your family, and you know the episode I was on.
00:49:26.480
Yes, because it lives as a legend in our family.
00:49:33.180
I just actually, I'll just kick it off with you just to remind people of what happened there.
00:49:37.780
This was Kyle as trans Trump, a character he does where it's Trump, only Trump is trans,
00:50:00.080
I'm not sure you'd be winning any of those awards like this.
00:50:06.820
You know, this is, you're always so nasty to me.
00:50:26.140
I had, when I was really young to impress girls, I did some impressions.
00:50:35.860
And then, I started doing stand-up and my manager, they were like, don't do impressions.
00:50:41.200
It was very, I don't know, just out or not cool to do it.
00:50:45.200
They were like, you know, Tim Allen, those kind of shows, Drew Carey, they talked about
00:50:50.380
So I stopped doing them because I just was like listening to people I probably shouldn't
00:50:55.020
And then the, like, the pandemic happened and they had the face swap technology.
00:50:59.440
And I, I actually did Trump years ago, just when he was on The Apprentice, just for friends.
00:51:09.700
And so this face swap thing, I was like, oh, I can do him now because, I mean, if you
00:51:14.860
look at every feature of his face, it's different than mine.
00:51:24.360
So the listening audience doesn't know what we're talking about yet, but Kyle's not, he's
00:51:28.000
in LA, but he's not in studio with me because he does this thing that you have, he has to
00:51:31.780
be via Zoom to do it, where he swaps in the person he's imitating, their face on top of
00:51:38.260
Kyle puts on a wig that's aligned with the character and then he, he thus becomes said
00:51:51.920
And I'll just put my laptop on the stage, like on a table, and then I'll project it
00:52:00.700
It's a whole apparatus that I don't like to lug around.
00:52:04.900
Well, now you have something else to show those people, which is you, uh, starring in
00:52:15.760
Brett plays one of them and you play the other.
00:52:21.920
By Kyle playing video games, which is his obsession.
00:52:25.080
Turn this crap off and come upstairs and eat like a normal human bear.
00:52:36.500
I thought you could only get one of those if you had a girlfriend.
00:52:39.260
And maybe you could get a girlfriend if you played a real sport.
00:52:56.320
Take care of your body and it'll take care of you.
00:53:00.160
Says the guy's chugging an energy drink that was made in a lab in Wuhan.
00:53:04.560
Um, it's heated, does acupuncture, and can insult my competitors in 20 languages.
00:53:10.940
When I was on a construction site, my chair was a five gallon bucket.
00:53:22.740
I did like a California thing because I know he grew up in California.
00:53:26.140
So I was like, maybe he's like talks like this.
00:53:44.140
Let's chat about, you know, some of our characters in the news.
00:53:47.460
Because I know you have intimate access to some of these guys.
00:53:50.720
Including, why don't we, we mentioned Kim Kardashian with Brett Cooper.
00:53:54.280
Um, I don't know if you, I know she's, she's a close personal friend of yours.
00:54:05.640
I want to give you the chance to respond to the controversy over your teeny tiny waist
00:54:09.960
that looked like it was about 12 inches around.
00:54:12.280
Some people are wondering whether you had organs removed from your body.
00:54:24.860
I know that wasn't your only big event this week, though.
00:54:27.600
Because you went to the Met Gala and the night before you were at the Tom Brady roast.
00:54:43.160
I know a lot of people make fun of your height.
00:55:11.680
But I think that just helps any kind of press is good press.
00:55:17.040
Did you enjoy the Met Gala going there with all those actual celebrities and, you know,
00:55:23.220
hobnobbing with the, well, I guess the actual C-list talent that's left in Hollywood?
00:55:28.920
I like to go to events like that because I can dress up and wear cute outfits.
00:55:41.900
It's very hard to book Kim Kardashian, even though she's literally everywhere.
00:55:47.400
What I'd really like to do, if you don't mind getting political, is speak with Joe Biden.
00:55:51.800
We ran a clip of Mr. Trump, who's, you know, in a different phase of life right now.
00:56:12.620
I've got to ask you, Mr. President, you know, the polls lately have been maybe a little better
00:56:17.120
for you, but it's not looking great for you in these polls in the swing states.
00:56:23.580
All right, look, we got to get rid of this Donald Duck guy.
00:56:30.280
All we have to do is talk about the real issues.
00:56:34.960
For example, the Maximilts are coming over the border.
00:56:49.820
Now, are you having a prompter issue again, Mr. President?
00:56:53.200
It seems like you might be reading your answers.
00:56:54.620
Look, look, we just, all I have to do is we have to tell the people that I'm just, no,
00:57:04.860
We can even, we can just weaken at Bernie's, this thing for the next four years.
00:57:09.940
Do you feel like, you know, if anything happens to you, do you feel like if anything happens to you, we can feel good about Kamala Harris ascending to the presidency?
00:57:27.580
Everyone knows we can just weaken at Bernie's May.
00:57:33.420
So if nothing else, I promise in my next term, at the very least, we'll be quite hilarious.
00:57:51.960
Mr. President, I really wanted to ask you a question because recently on Cinco de Mayo, you had a big party and you brought out the margaritas in the Rose Garden and had a great time demanding that Congress demand or allow dreamers who have been model citizens, according to you, come into the country and vote.
00:58:14.740
At Rose Garden, was I, what was I doing while I was at the Rose Garden?
00:58:22.800
Well, you're the president and that's your garden.
00:58:39.100
I know this may be a little impudent, but you seem to get lost a lot when I see you in these videos and you seem to have trouble with the stairs up Air Force One.
00:58:50.720
I mean, if it's not your age, what is it worth seeing in those videos?
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Those are, those are, those are fake films that they, they, they'll take a, they'll take a perfectly good job by, you know, I'll take my talking pills and I'll be, I'll be doing just fine.
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Sometimes the stairs will come at you and they'll, they'll move that things, that things on the conveyor belt, you know, if you're familiar with the plane stairs.
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Oh, got to look really closely, I guess, to see it.
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I have to ask you about your revisions to Title IX.
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You now said that biological boys and men in K through 12 in college can go into the girls' locker rooms, into the girls' bathrooms.
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Whether, whether it's a, a boy having a, boy having vaginas or penis having girls, everyone deserves to go to the bathroom and in the same place.
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Would you want your daughter using such a bathroom with a biological man coming in?
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Well, you know, who's to say, you know, my daughter could, my daughter could have a, a penis or a vagina or a vagina or a penis.
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You know, the worst thing you could do is tell a man that he has to have certain, certain things.
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Well, the other thing you did in your Title IX revisions was you took away due process rights for young men on college campus who, campuses who get accused of sexual assault.
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And, you know, it does occur to me, sir, respectfully, that if you held yourself to those same standards when Tara Reid accused you of a sexual assault, you might be behind bars.
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It's the difference between a sniff and a sexual sniff.
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Plus, you're, you're assuming I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, if you're, you're assuming I'm, I'm doing, I'm, I'm, I'm sorry.
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What do you, you know, Mr. President, sometimes you refer to the dead people as alive and the alive people as dead.
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What, what's like, do you not remember who's dead and alive?
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Yeah, well, you know, it's hard to, you know, you know, it's hard to remember sometimes who's, who's a dead and who's not alive person.
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And so I think what the best thing is we can do as a nation is come together and just start all over.
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And, uh, just, if I, if I say, if here's the thing, it's better than a Donald duck guy.
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You know, before I let you go, I've got to let you respond to the criticism that was launched the way of your wife at the top of the show, Adam Carolla came on and made a point.
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And that is that your wife has no business calling herself doctor, that she's not a real doctor care to respond.
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Yeah, she's a real, come on, she's a real doctor, doctor, uh, she's a doctor of, uh, she's a doctor of, of something, man, right?
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She's, you could go to her, ask her, I go to her all the time.
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You know, she'll say, get a band-aid or whatnot.
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Oh, yeah, she, I think she's got something approaching a doctorate, but not an actual PhD in education.
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You maybe should find a new doctor, sir, to look after your neurological health.
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That's a great honor to have you on the program.
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Now, I, I missed my opportunity when we were talking about the Met Gala to bring up another guest who was there.
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And this is someone I actually really admire, unlike my first two guests, and that is Jeff Goldblum.
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I mean, oh, Jeff, thank you so much for coming on the Megan Kelly show.
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I've never been on your show before, but, but, but, but I, I do love watching.
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I, you know, and if, if I'm, if I'm creepy, please let me know.
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People say that I, you're a little creepy, so please keep me in line.
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You went to the Met Gala and unlike many there, you actually, you know, have a thing or two between your two ears.
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And you actually started reciting the poem, The Raven, aloud.
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Uh, well, I've always, um, just enjoyed poems and, uh, you know, what I, what I love about them is they, they sort of condense and they, they say much more, uh, much like a, uh, uh, a painting than, um, just droning on.
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But, but, uh, the Met Gala, um, is the perfect place for a poem, yes.
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It's a classy and, uh, and an elegant evening of women, uh, dressing like horse.
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And so you look back now, you're getting a little, a little older, but you still look great.
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I saw you recently at a restaurant in New York city.
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You were completely gracious to myself and my husband, my children.
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But as you look back on your, your very successful career, what jumps out at you?
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Um, what's, what's like, what was your favorite film that you did?
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It, uh, it actually, um, my favorite work was my work on apartments.com because, um, I'm helping people find places to live.
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And, and although it is fun to work with dinosaurs, yes, yes, I do love dinosaurs, uh, I'd actually like to find a dinosaur, you know, I'm not sure if they lived in caves or whatever, but, uh, I like to house people more than act, yes.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Do you just like sit around coming up with these voices and working on them?
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And I have, um, yeah, I have, uh, this is popsicle Trump, Donald Trump.
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So I had to be a popsicle because of my gag order.
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The judge wouldn't allow me on this show unless I was a popsicle, but it's great.
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You can go right up to him and you can slide on up where the sun don't shine.
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They let you do it when you're a popsicle, but you got to get out of there before you
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Great to see you back at you're a beautiful, you're a nasty woman, but you're a beautiful
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Um, what's your reaction to stormy Daniels on this, on the stand yesterday claiming you
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Although I could have them all killed very easily.
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If this, if this doesn't go Trump's way, people know, I know people.
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So the jury needs to do the right thing, but I've got a gag order.
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I mean, like, do you have any reaction to her taking the stand and saying you slept
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with her in 2006, you told her you and Melania don't sleep in the same bed.
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And you had a quote, brief sexual encounter with stormy Daniels in the missionary position.
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Doesn't she understand the concept of a gag order that the hush money is,
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I thought about that when stormy was on the stand.
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But I'm like, this is, this is just like Megyn Kelly, the stormy Daniels, but you're much
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Stormy is like a Megyn Kelly whose dad doesn't love her.
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They may not look very favorably on the fact that this was an extramarital interlude,
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I mean, at, at most stormy's got a ball gag order.
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I was hoping to do that joke of the Tom Brady roast, but they wouldn't have a popsicle.
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What do you think of Tom Brady, by the way, he's getting a lot of blowback.
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I mean, he was your supporter, but there are a lot of blowback in the wake of that roast.
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People saying he was, he allowed too many terrible jokes about, uh, both of his exes,
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And, uh, he got in somebody's face over a joke about Robert Kraft as, you know, wasn't
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Did, do you think Tom Brady handled himself well?
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It's not jealousy, but he's going to just begin.
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You know, it's going as well for you as it possibly could, but I think we all know how
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