The Megyn Kelly Show - Media Panics Over Elon Musk and Free Speech, and Will Smith Forgives Himself, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts

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00:01:01.320 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:03.240 Your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:01:12.520 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:01:14.240 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Wednesday.

00:01:17.300 The woke world is coming for Elon Musk

00:01:19.580 in what appears to be a coordinated effort

00:01:21.240 from the media to celebrities,

00:01:22.860 even the White House.

00:01:26.000 They're really not supposed to be messing

00:01:27.520 with people's free speech,

00:01:28.840 just in case you haven't read the First Amendment.

00:01:31.380 Musk's purchase of Twitter is coming under attack.

00:01:34.580 It's just one of the many topics

00:01:35.600 that we're going to discuss today

00:01:36.520 with our pals from Ruthless.

00:01:38.520 The Ruthless podcast,

00:01:39.700 Josh, John Ashbrook,

00:01:41.320 Josh Holmes,

00:01:42.240 and Michael Duncan.

00:01:44.120 Smug is out today.

00:01:45.940 He's not feeling well,

00:01:46.980 but we'll get him the next time.

00:01:48.300 John, Josh, Michael,

00:01:49.140 welcome back to the show.

00:01:50.760 Thank you.

00:01:51.500 Thank you for having us.

00:01:52.480 It's always such a pleasure.

00:01:53.520 Smug's a little delicate, Megan.

00:01:54.860 I don't know if you picked that up

00:01:56.400 in our relationship over the years,

00:01:58.420 but, you know,

00:01:59.460 you got a little bit sick.

00:02:01.120 Like five, six days later,

00:02:02.360 you're still not heard of.

00:02:04.120 People are in oxygen tents

00:02:05.480 for shorter periods of time.

00:02:08.540 Just a precious flower.

00:02:10.180 When we get to election predictions,

00:02:11.880 we actually look back

00:02:12.760 and you three guys did pretty well

00:02:14.580 on your election predictions

00:02:15.600 when it came to the Senate.

00:02:17.460 Smug, not so much.

00:02:19.140 So that'll be fun.

00:02:20.700 We'll teach him to miss an episode.

00:02:23.320 But before we get to that,

00:02:24.840 before we get all that funness,

00:02:26.860 did you see what just broke about CNN?

00:02:30.580 Reading from Mediaite,

00:02:32.360 just in,

00:02:33.080 CNN starts laying off

00:02:34.240 hundreds of employees

00:02:35.240 targeting on-air contributors first.

00:02:38.300 The new chief, Chris Licht,

00:02:39.720 announced the network

00:02:40.660 will start making layoffs

00:02:41.660 as part of its budget cut strategy,

00:02:43.700 expected to target hundreds

00:02:44.960 of CNN employees.

00:02:46.640 We haven't gotten the names yet,

00:02:47.940 but this is on the heels

00:02:49.280 of a report by,

00:02:51.780 oh, what's his name?

00:02:52.900 Dylan Byers,

00:02:53.540 who used to work there

00:02:54.320 and now does his own

00:02:55.980 independent thing,

00:02:57.020 saying this was coming

00:02:58.560 and that it's going to be deep

00:02:59.980 and it's going to be wide

00:03:00.780 and it's going to hurt

00:03:01.440 and that there's,

00:03:02.720 the morale's at an all-time low

00:03:04.080 at CNN,

00:03:04.920 as are ratings.

00:03:06.280 And I just tweeted out

00:03:08.540 before we came to air,

00:03:09.700 this is the fault of Jeff Zucker.

00:03:11.640 This is the fault of Jeff Zucker.

00:03:14.160 Chris Licht is the new guy

00:03:15.740 hired to try to fix it.

00:03:17.580 Jeff Zucker's the one

00:03:18.280 who broke it and ruined CNN

00:03:19.600 from what was once

00:03:21.120 a well-respected solid brand

00:03:22.840 to a partisan hack organization

00:03:24.920 that lost every center-right

00:03:27.340 and right viewer they ever had.

00:03:30.220 What do you guys think?

00:03:31.700 Yeah, no, look,

00:03:32.280 I think that's right.

00:03:33.120 To the extent that morale is low,

00:03:35.140 it's low because these people

00:03:36.420 have been living in an echo chamber

00:03:37.720 of their own making

00:03:38.520 for the last few years, right?

00:03:40.020 I mean,

00:03:40.800 it had become

00:03:42.400 one of the most partisan networks

00:03:44.300 ever even dreamed of, right?

00:03:47.080 I mean,

00:03:47.960 MSNBC had nothing on CNN

00:03:50.300 at the height of their,

00:03:52.060 of the Trump administration

00:03:53.040 and obviously new ownership

00:03:54.640 brought in Chris Licht

00:03:55.720 to make some serious changes.

00:03:57.080 He's already made

00:03:57.880 a lot of changes, right?

00:03:59.160 I mean,

00:03:59.740 they fired a whole lot of,

00:04:01.520 right,

00:04:02.060 they fired a whole lot of people

00:04:03.100 I'm not surprised

00:04:04.760 to see the contributors,

00:04:05.740 like, look,

00:04:06.160 I'm not cheering anybody

00:04:06.960 losing their job,

00:04:07.760 but I got to tell you,

00:04:08.420 if your job is to try

00:04:09.280 to provide honest analysis

00:04:10.700 and you hear a news network

00:04:12.520 that they weren't doing that,

00:04:14.140 right?

00:04:14.280 They didn't go someplace else.

00:04:15.940 Right.

00:04:16.460 If you were Republican on air,

00:04:18.500 basically you had one criteria.

00:04:20.440 You had to be

00:04:21.240 either a former Republican

00:04:22.640 or somebody who hated Trump

00:04:24.240 or somebody who would otherwise

00:04:26.100 denigrate the Republican Party.

00:04:27.680 And that was the only criteria

00:04:28.740 that they then could put up

00:04:29.900 Republican contributor

00:04:31.380 behind it

00:04:32.380 and put these people on air.

00:04:33.620 So, look,

00:04:34.660 they do have a lot of work to do.

00:04:36.240 Well, and the problem is

00:04:37.120 when you spend five years

00:04:38.780 cultivating

00:04:39.500 that sort of on-air talent,

00:04:41.980 that's also the audience

00:04:43.380 you cultivate, right?

00:04:44.840 And so now that we have

00:04:45.980 a Democrat

00:04:46.500 in the White House

00:04:47.840 and you ostensibly

00:04:49.000 want to report

00:04:50.100 facts and news

00:04:51.540 about that administration

00:04:52.620 and its failures,

00:04:53.760 you're going to have

00:04:54.700 a hard time

00:04:55.620 keeping that audience

00:04:56.520 that you created

00:04:57.420 that was entirely based

00:04:59.180 on hating Donald Trump, right?

00:05:01.680 It's become nearly unwatchable.

00:05:03.500 I mean, there was a day

00:05:04.360 when Wolf Blitzer

00:05:05.240 would stand up

00:05:06.180 against the backdrop

00:05:06.980 of the Iraq war

00:05:07.760 and provide people

00:05:08.460 with information

00:05:09.120 that they consumed

00:05:09.960 over and over and over again.

00:05:11.160 It was one of the most

00:05:11.740 valuable sources in news.

00:05:13.260 But now it's become

00:05:14.500 an absolute liberal playpen.

00:05:16.520 And there was a woman

00:05:17.440 on there the other day.

00:05:18.340 Her name slips my mind.

00:05:19.420 She was on their

00:05:19.880 brand new morning show

00:05:21.240 with Don Lemon

00:05:21.840 that I don't think

00:05:22.380 anybody really watches

00:05:23.340 except to clip things

00:05:24.400 and make fun of them.

00:05:25.140 The woman literally said

00:05:27.820 that more free speech

00:05:30.340 doesn't help free speech.

00:05:32.120 Something to that effect.

00:05:33.720 So they're attacking

00:05:36.180 freedom of speech on CNN.

00:05:38.680 They need big change over there.

00:05:40.420 Yeah.

00:05:40.700 And adding in a couple of

00:05:42.380 new contributors

00:05:43.280 who are subject matter experts

00:05:44.540 is not going to do it.

00:05:45.800 It's too late.

00:05:46.760 That's the problem.

00:05:48.280 This all needed to happen

00:05:49.640 years ago.

00:05:50.920 Years ago,

00:05:51.860 Jeff Zucker

00:05:52.380 crushed that organization

00:05:54.160 and then stomped on it

00:05:55.660 for years after

00:05:56.440 it was crushed

00:05:57.180 and just a little

00:05:58.140 bloody pulp of a grape left.

00:06:00.120 And now the wine's gone bad.

00:06:02.020 It's like a shitty grappa.

00:06:04.060 I don't know what it is,

00:06:04.840 but it's bad.

00:06:05.680 And nobody wants to drink it.

00:06:07.220 And now you've got

00:06:08.360 you've got Don Lemon

00:06:10.100 engaging in just

00:06:11.240 revisionist history

00:06:12.860 and revisionist present.

00:06:14.260 Like, didn't happen.

00:06:15.660 What do you mean?

00:06:16.460 We've always been fair.

00:06:17.680 We're, what?

00:06:18.420 He went on with,

00:06:19.800 oh, he was on,

00:06:21.360 I think it was Colbert.

00:06:22.360 Colbert is horrified

00:06:23.780 that CNN is trying

00:06:25.300 to leave its liberal bias behind

00:06:27.700 and asked Lemon about it

00:06:29.260 when he appeared

00:06:29.680 on his show the other night

00:06:30.580 and listened to the gall

00:06:32.100 of Don Lemon.

00:06:34.800 The word on the street

00:06:35.880 is that you guys

00:06:36.640 aren't allowed

00:06:37.000 to be liberal anymore.

00:06:38.160 Is that, is that the case?

00:06:39.300 I don't think

00:06:39.680 we ever were liberal.

00:06:40.660 What?

00:06:41.200 Yes.

00:06:41.660 I don't think we ever were.

00:06:42.460 That's not me saying that.

00:06:43.440 That's the people out there

00:06:44.400 saying that he's not

00:06:45.140 letting you be liberal anymore.

00:06:46.440 Well, I, listen,

00:06:47.520 I think that,

00:06:48.420 I think what Chris is saying

00:06:51.180 is that he wants Republicans,

00:06:53.500 sensible Republicans,

00:06:54.140 he wants us to hold people

00:06:55.060 to account,

00:06:55.680 but he wants people

00:06:56.580 to come on

00:06:57.000 and feel comfortable

00:06:57.580 with coming on

00:06:58.220 and talking on,

00:06:59.200 on CNN.

00:07:02.240 Sensible.

00:07:02.980 Well, they're on.

00:07:04.060 Sensible,

00:07:04.720 only sensible Republicans,

00:07:06.220 meaning anti-MAGA,

00:07:07.900 anti-Trump.

00:07:09.200 And secondly,

00:07:10.120 they've never been liberal.

00:07:11.300 You see,

00:07:11.600 they've always just been

00:07:12.320 above board

00:07:12.940 trying to hold people

00:07:13.860 to account, right?

00:07:14.820 Wasn't that your experience

00:07:15.660 in watching CNN

00:07:16.340 over the past six years?

00:07:18.160 Well, listen,

00:07:19.160 I can tell from

00:07:19.760 a personal experience.

00:07:20.760 First off,

00:07:21.480 Don Lemon should say that

00:07:22.520 to the new ownership

00:07:23.380 because clearly they believe

00:07:24.880 that they were extremely liberal

00:07:26.280 and they ruined the audience,

00:07:27.800 right?

00:07:28.080 Which is why

00:07:28.580 all these changes are afoot.

00:07:30.460 But I used to do,

00:07:32.280 when I first started doing TV,

00:07:33.900 I did equal parts CNN and Fox.

00:07:36.980 And it got to a point

00:07:38.300 during 2016,

00:07:39.240 during the primary elections,

00:07:40.960 where they were all Trump

00:07:43.080 all the time.

00:07:44.060 But as soon as he became president,

00:07:46.400 the whole dynamic shifted.

00:07:48.180 And you couldn't really

00:07:50.260 get a word in edgewise

00:07:51.420 on any one of their panels

00:07:52.460 unless you were like

00:07:53.660 just taking a knife

00:07:54.780 to the administration.

00:07:56.200 And it was so uncomfortable

00:07:57.280 for me personally

00:07:58.440 to sit in green rooms

00:07:59.520 and listen to one view

00:08:01.120 of the world for so long

00:08:02.720 and then go out

00:08:03.800 and get absolutely castigated

00:08:05.640 on air.

00:08:07.300 I just refused to do it.

00:08:08.760 I just stopped doing it.

00:08:09.740 I haven't done CNN

00:08:10.940 in six, seven years.

00:08:12.280 And at one point,

00:08:12.800 I had a really good

00:08:14.120 relationship with them.

00:08:15.540 It has been so,

00:08:16.700 like Don Lemon,

00:08:17.340 I mean, my God,

00:08:18.760 what is he looking at?

00:08:20.060 Because it was one

00:08:21.300 of the most liberal networks

00:08:22.420 that's ever existed.

00:08:23.760 Well, yeah, it was like

00:08:24.320 if you listen to it, Josh,

00:08:26.300 if he goes on,

00:08:27.260 just to add to it, guys,

00:08:28.240 and I'll give it back

00:08:28.920 to you, Duncan.

00:08:30.300 He goes on in this exchange

00:08:31.960 with Colbert to say,

00:08:33.940 look, we're just going

00:08:35.920 to hold people to account.

00:08:37.000 That doesn't mean

00:08:37.660 we're going liberal

00:08:38.320 or conservative.

00:08:39.280 It just means

00:08:39.860 we're doing what we do.

00:08:41.460 That's good journalism.

00:08:42.560 He says you can have

00:08:45.060 confrontational conversations

00:08:46.380 without being vitriolic.

00:08:48.420 You can disagree

00:08:49.400 without being disagreeable.

00:08:52.360 That's what our mission is.

00:08:53.900 This is the same guy.

00:08:55.300 You know how on Twitter

00:08:55.880 you say something

00:08:57.020 and then they've got

00:08:57.680 your record

00:08:58.200 and they'll retweet

00:08:59.320 what you said before

00:09:00.140 with a,

00:09:01.060 that you, Don?

00:09:02.440 Okay, I got one

00:09:03.320 of those for you.

00:09:04.320 This you, Don?

00:09:05.360 Listen to Don Lemon

00:09:06.320 prior to his newfound,

00:09:08.240 you know,

00:09:08.540 just good journalism

00:09:09.520 and disagree

00:09:10.600 without being disagreeable

00:09:12.220 and no vitriol,

00:09:13.400 all right?

00:09:13.980 Listen.

00:09:15.500 There's one party

00:09:16.480 right now

00:09:17.500 that's not operating

00:09:18.440 in fact

00:09:18.840 that has been misleading

00:09:20.640 the American people

00:09:21.420 and that is the Republican Party.

00:09:22.780 Republicans are doing

00:09:23.400 something that is

00:09:24.000 very dangerous

00:09:25.580 to our society.

00:09:26.880 We must acknowledge

00:09:28.100 that as journalists

00:09:29.140 because if we don't,

00:09:30.740 we're not doing our jobs.

00:09:32.020 You voted for the person

00:09:33.440 who the Klan supported.

00:09:36.260 You voted for the person

00:09:38.040 who Nazis support.

00:09:40.160 You voted for the person

00:09:41.720 who the alt-right supports.

00:09:43.760 And there is no reason

00:09:45.760 to believe

00:09:46.280 that the Republicans

00:09:46.980 are going to start

00:09:48.020 playing fairly

00:09:48.760 and are going to start

00:09:49.980 operating as a party

00:09:51.300 of sanity.

00:09:52.160 What is it about

00:09:52.800 President Obama

00:09:53.600 that really

00:09:54.420 gets under your skin?

00:09:58.840 Is it because

00:09:59.740 he's smarter than you?

00:10:01.180 I've lived in several

00:10:02.000 red states.

00:10:03.280 There are a lot of friends

00:10:04.400 who I had to really

00:10:05.020 get rid of.

00:10:05.640 You have to stop

00:10:06.340 demonizing people

00:10:07.660 and realize

00:10:09.060 the biggest terror threat

00:10:10.180 in this country

00:10:11.660 is white men.

00:10:13.520 We have to stop

00:10:14.120 coddling people

00:10:15.260 when it comes to this

00:10:16.860 and the vaccine saying,

00:10:18.260 oh, you can't shame them.

00:10:19.960 You can't call them stupid.

00:10:21.180 You can't call them silly.

00:10:22.020 Yes, they are.

00:10:23.580 The only party now

00:10:25.240 that is operating

00:10:26.840 in reality

00:10:27.480 is the Democratic Party.

00:10:29.640 The Republican Party

00:10:30.900 is obsolete.

00:10:32.140 Listen, again,

00:10:32.820 I'm not a political person.

00:10:34.520 I'm a person

00:10:34.980 who lives in reality.

00:10:35.880 I'm a journalist.

00:10:37.660 Look, there is

00:10:39.240 bringing receipts

00:10:41.620 and then there is

00:10:42.560 bringing a CVS

00:10:43.780 length receipt.

00:10:45.220 And that is what

00:10:46.120 Megan Kelly

00:10:47.760 brought for us today.

00:10:48.940 I don't know

00:10:49.220 if you guys have seen

00:10:50.100 these CVS receipts

00:10:51.600 that are literally

00:10:52.280 like a mile long.

00:10:54.020 I mean,

00:10:54.440 that's exactly

00:10:54.980 what that was.

00:10:55.760 It seems like

00:10:56.720 the Edward R.

00:10:58.020 Murrow of our time.

00:10:59.400 That's what we're

00:11:00.000 talking about.

00:11:01.420 Liberal bias.

00:11:02.740 What are you saying?

00:11:03.980 We love

00:11:04.520 sensible Republicans

00:11:06.000 and by that

00:11:06.520 we mean

00:11:06.820 those guys

00:11:07.200 who were

00:11:07.360 at the Lincoln Project.

00:11:08.500 What's your problem?

00:11:11.220 This is a joke

00:11:12.100 and this is directly

00:11:12.860 why that long clip

00:11:14.000 is exactly why

00:11:15.040 hundreds of employees

00:11:16.120 are being laid off

00:11:17.060 at CNN today.

00:11:18.400 They abandoned

00:11:19.560 their fealty

00:11:20.720 to journalism.

00:11:21.840 Yeah, no,

00:11:24.200 it's like

00:11:24.920 that you reap

00:11:27.420 what you sow.

00:11:28.060 It's like they did

00:11:28.480 a lot of sowing there,

00:11:29.620 you know,

00:11:30.500 and now they're

00:11:30.960 finding out suddenly,

00:11:32.560 oh no,

00:11:33.580 there's some reaping.

00:11:34.400 Yeah, there's some reaping.

00:11:36.900 But exactly right.

00:11:38.380 Back on Holmes'

00:11:39.700 point earlier

00:11:40.180 about when he used

00:11:40.700 to do CNN

00:11:41.380 is like,

00:11:42.480 who's going to opt in

00:11:43.500 if you're a Republican,

00:11:44.400 who's going to opt in

00:11:45.340 to walking

00:11:45.940 into the WWE

00:11:47.420 arena

00:11:48.760 where it's four on one

00:11:50.960 and two of the co-hosts

00:11:52.420 have chairs

00:11:53.120 that they're hitting you

00:11:53.960 with for 30 seconds

00:11:55.020 at a time.

00:11:56.140 It's so true.

00:11:57.540 I mean,

00:11:57.740 the last one,

00:11:58.620 I think the last hit

00:11:59.600 I did on CNN,

00:12:01.260 I was on a panel

00:12:02.180 where I was being berated

00:12:04.200 because I didn't believe

00:12:05.480 that the,

00:12:06.000 both the Pledge of Allegiance

00:12:08.100 and our National Anthem

00:12:09.160 were inherently racist.

00:12:11.040 And I was like,

00:12:11.680 man,

00:12:11.980 this can't be good

00:12:12.920 for business.

00:12:13.740 Like,

00:12:13.980 how am I going to be

00:12:15.080 in the middle

00:12:15.440 of this discussion

00:12:16.220 and help me at all?

00:12:17.680 This is awful.

00:12:18.760 Right,

00:12:19.240 right.

00:12:19.480 All they wanted

00:12:19.960 was a Republican foil.

00:12:21.180 It's like the view.

00:12:22.320 Whoever sits in that,

00:12:23.220 you know,

00:12:23.420 seat over there

00:12:24.020 on third base

00:12:25.220 or I don't know,

00:12:25.780 his first base

00:12:26.400 is just there

00:12:27.720 to get beaten up on.

00:12:28.640 The weaker,

00:12:29.100 the better.

00:12:29.620 Right.

00:12:29.860 And the only reason

00:12:30.700 Meghan McCain got it

00:12:31.560 because she was feisty

00:12:32.260 was because she hated Trump.

00:12:34.040 So that was acceptable to them.

00:12:35.180 And then they got this

00:12:35.780 Alyssa Farah

00:12:36.460 who's just weak

00:12:37.580 and a pushover

00:12:38.240 and not a real Republican.

00:12:39.360 And she worked

00:12:40.060 for the Trump administration

00:12:40.820 so they can say,

00:12:41.820 oh, yeah,

00:12:42.060 she's real.

00:12:42.720 But she now hates Trump

00:12:43.740 because she wanted

00:12:44.560 to see her name in lights.

00:12:45.440 So she conveniently

00:12:46.080 started hating Trump

00:12:46.980 and post January 6th

00:12:49.240 stormed out

00:12:49.740 of the administration

00:12:50.360 like she'd never seen him

00:12:51.700 do anything controversial

00:12:52.540 prior to that.

00:12:53.320 OK,

00:12:53.720 this is so.

00:12:54.500 Meghan,

00:12:54.600 can I stop you on that

00:12:55.380 just real quick?

00:12:55.980 Because I think

00:12:56.620 this is an important part

00:12:57.560 beyond just CNN

00:12:58.680 because part of the reason

00:13:00.800 why the liberal left

00:13:02.320 and the media in particular

00:13:03.300 is in a reality

00:13:05.200 all by themselves

00:13:06.580 is because they only

00:13:07.480 associate with Republicans

00:13:08.680 like the ones

00:13:09.220 that you were talking about there.

00:13:10.420 If you look at the contributors

00:13:11.700 to The New York Times

00:13:12.820 or The Washington Post,

00:13:14.720 CNN

00:13:15.020 or the Republicans

00:13:16.140 that go on MSNBC.

00:13:17.980 And these are,

00:13:18.420 by the way,

00:13:18.780 these are the only Republicans

00:13:19.840 that these journalists

00:13:21.340 know or talk to.

00:13:23.800 None of them

00:13:24.320 are actual Republicans,

00:13:25.720 right?

00:13:26.000 None of them

00:13:26.440 have actually spent

00:13:27.180 any time in the field

00:13:28.060 at any point

00:13:28.880 in recent history.

00:13:30.300 There may be

00:13:30.660 Bush administration

00:13:31.540 holdovers or something,

00:13:32.820 but they've changed

00:13:33.480 their mind long ago

00:13:34.900 about conservative policies

00:13:36.180 and they only echo back

00:13:37.500 what Democrats have to say

00:13:39.220 on air

00:13:39.960 and sort of reinforce

00:13:41.160 that the Republican Party

00:13:42.380 is broken.

00:13:43.260 It is like that

00:13:44.020 with all of media

00:13:45.800 and it's been like that

00:13:46.780 forever.

00:13:48.680 Yeah.

00:13:48.960 Well, here's to back up you.

00:13:50.960 I agree with everything

00:13:51.600 you said and I'll back up

00:13:52.360 another point you said

00:13:53.060 about CNN

00:13:53.640 in the election

00:13:54.800 and how,

00:13:56.320 you know,

00:13:56.980 2015 or so

00:13:58.180 they were putting

00:13:58.700 Republicans on.

00:13:59.580 They were more normal.

00:14:00.480 This is back when I would

00:14:01.160 watch CNN

00:14:01.760 when getting ready

00:14:02.720 for my show on Fox.

00:14:04.880 Donald Trump

00:14:05.780 actually just truthed out

00:14:07.360 on his social media network.

00:14:09.520 This election cycle

00:14:10.520 reminds me so much

00:14:11.440 of 2016,

00:14:12.560 much more than 2020,

00:14:14.320 blah, blah, blah.

00:14:15.120 The Wall Street Journal

00:14:16.020 and Fox News

00:14:16.580 were terrible to me,

00:14:18.260 much like today

00:14:19.100 until I won the election.

00:14:21.800 CNN,

00:14:22.720 when they actually

00:14:23.320 had great ratings,

00:14:24.560 was terrific.

00:14:25.720 They covered me

00:14:26.420 no matter where I went

00:14:27.620 24-7.

00:14:29.380 And then he goes on

00:14:30.120 from there.

00:14:30.780 He's not wrong.

00:14:31.900 He's not wrong

00:14:32.320 about any of that.

00:14:34.120 No, he's not.

00:14:35.440 And, you know,

00:14:35.920 of course,

00:14:36.420 from a CNN perspective

00:14:37.740 and Zucker's perspective,

00:14:38.940 it was all about

00:14:39.860 the circus, right?

00:14:41.840 And, I mean,

00:14:42.560 for the same reason

00:14:43.460 why everybody

00:14:44.020 covered car chases

00:14:45.280 for as long as they did,

00:14:46.440 right?

00:14:46.620 You wanted to see

00:14:47.100 how it ended

00:14:47.660 in a fiery wreck.

00:14:50.360 And that's basically

00:14:51.200 what I think

00:14:52.100 was happening there

00:14:53.460 with CNN

00:14:53.900 and how they covered Trump.

00:14:55.200 And then as soon as he won,

00:14:56.320 they were like,

00:14:56.700 holy smokes,

00:14:57.180 what have we done?

00:14:58.340 But it's still good

00:14:59.080 for ratings,

00:14:59.640 so let's throw that on there.

00:15:01.000 But now we've got to just

00:15:01.940 sort of like

00:15:02.820 castigate the entire crew,

00:15:04.440 make all Republicans

00:15:05.760 a Trump Republican

00:15:07.140 in the most,

00:15:07.720 you know,

00:15:08.660 disaffected way.

00:15:10.140 And they became

00:15:11.000 a joke

00:15:11.640 of an organization.

00:15:13.200 And take your news anchors

00:15:14.520 who were purporting

00:15:15.660 to be objective

00:15:16.640 news anchors

00:15:18.180 and turn them

00:15:19.320 into partisan hacks.

00:15:21.080 That was his greatest sin

00:15:22.220 as he ruined

00:15:22.740 his own talent.

00:15:23.980 Well, now,

00:15:24.480 according to this report

00:15:25.240 by Dylan Byers,

00:15:26.080 the talent

00:15:26.600 is distrustful

00:15:27.840 of the new management.

00:15:29.120 He's set up his office,

00:15:30.600 Chris Licht,

00:15:31.000 on a different floor

00:15:32.140 a la The Watcher.

00:15:34.480 I don't know

00:15:34.940 if you guys have seen

00:15:35.520 The Watcher,

00:15:36.180 a series that's out

00:15:36.880 right now.

00:15:37.400 It's actually very good.

00:15:38.640 Disappointing ending,

00:15:39.440 but riveting

00:15:40.220 until you get there.

00:15:41.220 But anyway,

00:15:41.800 what do they say?

00:15:42.880 So he's on with management

00:15:44.160 and they're mad

00:15:44.860 he's not in the middle

00:15:45.320 of the fishbowl?

00:15:46.240 Maybe that's part

00:15:46.820 of the problem

00:15:47.400 is that he was

00:15:48.100 a little too chummy

00:15:48.980 with his top stars

00:15:50.040 and his bias

00:15:50.920 rubbed off on all of them.

00:15:52.920 Maybe Chris Licht

00:15:53.560 is smart to sit

00:15:54.280 in a different office,

00:15:55.420 make decisions

00:15:56.000 and let the troops

00:15:56.980 comply or quit.

00:15:59.560 And if they don't

00:16:00.620 comply or quit,

00:16:02.040 they may get fired.

00:16:03.080 It's not totally

00:16:04.420 dissimilar to what

00:16:05.060 we're seeing over

00:16:06.020 at Twitter,

00:16:07.500 which will lead us

00:16:08.320 back to CNN

00:16:08.860 in one second.

00:16:10.140 But Elon and Twitter

00:16:11.760 are in the midst

00:16:12.760 of a huge epic battle

00:16:14.580 with virtually everyone

00:16:16.400 on the left.

00:16:17.720 And it's because

00:16:19.040 of several things

00:16:19.880 that he's done,

00:16:20.640 but it's really

00:16:21.180 because of his ideology

00:16:22.160 and his commitment

00:16:23.080 to expanding free speech

00:16:24.540 on Twitter

00:16:24.960 and bringing back

00:16:26.080 controversial figures.

00:16:27.500 I begin now

00:16:29.020 with the White House.

00:16:30.700 Now, this is a private company.

00:16:32.120 Right now,

00:16:33.300 these social media companies

00:16:34.400 are private companies

00:16:35.180 and they're treated

00:16:35.660 accordingly.

00:16:36.340 You can make a good case

00:16:37.280 for why they shouldn't be.

00:16:39.120 I've had lawyers on

00:16:40.720 who have argued

00:16:41.300 things like this.

00:16:42.020 Rebecca Ramaswamy

00:16:42.820 came on and so on.

00:16:45.720 But right now,

00:16:46.500 they're private companies

00:16:47.080 and they are not allowed

00:16:47.880 to have their company

00:16:49.800 targeted because of free speech.

00:16:51.720 I attacked Ron DeSantis

00:16:52.600 for trying to do this

00:16:53.240 in Florida

00:16:53.560 and I will attack

00:16:54.520 this White House

00:16:55.020 for trying to do it

00:16:55.640 to Twitter.

00:16:56.200 You can't do it.

00:16:56.880 There's a First Amendment.

00:16:57.920 Stay the hell out

00:16:58.620 of their business.

00:17:00.420 Well, listen to what

00:17:01.700 happened at the White House

00:17:02.540 when these leftist reporters,

00:17:04.280 the question by the reporter

00:17:05.640 is out as outrageous

00:17:06.920 as the answer.

00:17:07.880 This is a Reuters reporter,

00:17:09.400 Andrea Shalal,

00:17:11.180 wanting to know

00:17:12.140 what the White House

00:17:13.600 is going to do

00:17:14.460 about the fact

00:17:14.940 that Elon

00:17:15.520 is letting

00:17:16.840 previously suspended

00:17:18.080 accounts

00:17:18.640 back onto Twitter.

00:17:20.440 What the hell?

00:17:21.440 Listen.

00:17:21.620 There's a researcher

00:17:24.160 at Stanford

00:17:25.200 who says

00:17:25.780 this is a critical

00:17:27.100 moment

00:17:28.120 really in terms

00:17:29.020 of ensuring

00:17:30.500 that Twitter

00:17:31.400 does not become

00:17:32.080 a vector

00:17:32.560 for misinformation.

00:17:33.840 Who is it

00:17:34.420 at the White House

00:17:35.520 that is really

00:17:36.240 keeping track of this?

00:17:37.860 So look,

00:17:38.320 this is something

00:17:38.820 that we're certainly

00:17:39.680 keeping an eye on

00:17:41.920 and look,

00:17:43.660 we, you know,

00:17:45.600 we have always

00:17:46.360 been very clear

00:17:47.260 and that

00:17:49.320 when it comes

00:17:50.140 to social media

00:17:51.420 platforms,

00:17:52.060 it is their

00:17:52.780 responsibility

00:17:53.460 to make sure

00:17:54.960 that when it comes

00:17:56.380 to misinformation,

00:17:57.660 when we,

00:17:58.420 when it comes

00:17:58.940 to the hate

00:17:59.480 that we're seeing,

00:18:00.380 that they,

00:18:01.660 they take action.

00:18:03.360 Of course,

00:18:03.760 Corrine Jean-Pierre

00:18:04.540 reading again

00:18:05.580 because she's

00:18:06.040 incapable

00:18:06.640 of answering

00:18:07.420 anything

00:18:08.040 off the top

00:18:08.660 of her head.

00:18:09.720 Anything.

00:18:11.120 But how about

00:18:11.880 that reporter,

00:18:12.520 that Reuters reporter?

00:18:13.780 Who is it

00:18:14.420 at the White House

00:18:15.000 that is really

00:18:15.540 keeping track of this?

00:18:17.200 No one.

00:18:17.940 No one.

00:18:18.460 They're a private company

00:18:19.320 and this isn't China,

00:18:20.680 you dumbass.

00:18:21.680 That's what KJT

00:18:22.540 should have said to her.

00:18:24.820 But Megan,

00:18:25.480 did you hear

00:18:26.000 there's a Stanford

00:18:26.800 professor

00:18:27.520 that's very concerned?

00:18:29.640 A Stanford professor.

00:18:31.700 They've got our,

00:18:32.360 they have our best

00:18:33.100 interests at heart there.

00:18:34.240 No question about it.

00:18:35.440 It is wild.

00:18:36.220 The university crew

00:18:36.420 definitely has the right,

00:18:37.360 the finger on the pulse.

00:18:38.660 Go ahead.

00:18:39.340 It is very wild

00:18:40.980 to see now

00:18:42.580 so many figures

00:18:43.600 in the media

00:18:44.240 arguing against

00:18:45.280 free speech itself.

00:18:46.840 Jarring.

00:18:47.160 Like I know

00:18:47.740 it's been happening

00:18:48.500 for a while

00:18:49.200 but like we shouldn't

00:18:50.220 get used to this

00:18:51.100 because it is so

00:18:52.060 incredibly abnormal

00:18:53.340 to see like a reporter

00:18:54.860 asking the government

00:18:56.140 to do more

00:18:57.000 to stifle free speech.

00:18:58.600 And by the way,

00:18:59.380 all of these people

00:19:00.280 a few years ago

00:19:01.420 were saying,

00:19:02.940 oh,

00:19:03.500 if you don't like it,

00:19:04.640 build your own Twitter.

00:19:05.680 This is America.

00:19:06.460 We believe in the

00:19:07.040 free enterprise system.

00:19:08.000 These are private companies.

00:19:09.780 And then suddenly

00:19:10.320 Elon Musk buys it

00:19:11.560 and they're like,

00:19:12.140 oh my God,

00:19:13.000 daddy government,

00:19:13.820 save us,

00:19:14.280 save us all.

00:19:15.300 We're going to have to go

00:19:16.100 to Mastodon.

00:19:17.300 We're going to have to go

00:19:18.700 to Mastodon.

00:19:19.200 We can't go to Mastodon.

00:19:20.620 And they say conservatives

00:19:22.340 are the fascists.

00:19:23.180 Yeah, right.

00:19:24.240 Well,

00:19:24.480 the thing is,

00:19:25.940 I think what Elon did

00:19:27.480 in purchasing Twitter

00:19:29.300 might have been

00:19:30.060 the most patriotic thing

00:19:31.480 that I have seen

00:19:32.900 in generations

00:19:33.940 from a billionaire

00:19:35.740 or anybody else

00:19:36.740 because it unmasked

00:19:38.500 a fundamental reality

00:19:40.060 that we've been dealing

00:19:41.220 with in this country

00:19:42.020 that nobody really

00:19:43.680 wants to talk about,

00:19:44.640 which is that you have

00:19:45.980 establishment,

00:19:47.800 government entities,

00:19:48.900 Hollywood entities.

00:19:51.000 You've got the entire

00:19:52.420 news media.

00:19:54.060 You've got basically

00:19:54.780 every corporate America.

00:19:57.100 Every pillar in this country

00:19:58.760 is now entirely dedicated

00:20:01.240 to not offending

00:20:03.280 the far left

00:20:04.120 and in doing so,

00:20:05.920 ensuring that

00:20:06.620 the conservative movement

00:20:07.800 doesn't have a voice

00:20:09.280 and either intimidating people

00:20:10.700 into not speaking at all

00:20:11.860 or banning them

00:20:12.840 from platforms altogether.

00:20:14.620 And you don't really

00:20:15.200 come to that conclusion.

00:20:16.260 I mean,

00:20:16.380 it sounds like a crazy conspiracy,

00:20:18.320 but you don't actually

00:20:18.840 come to that conclusion

00:20:19.800 until Elon buys Twitter

00:20:21.500 and you see their reaction.

00:20:23.280 I mean,

00:20:23.460 for weeks,

00:20:24.480 he took literally

00:20:25.360 zero changes,

00:20:26.600 zero changes.

00:20:27.700 And you saw companies,

00:20:29.440 CBS News,

00:20:30.740 say that they were

00:20:31.240 suspending their activity

00:20:32.580 on Twitter.

00:20:33.160 For what?

00:20:33.960 For what?

00:20:34.340 What was it about

00:20:35.180 the initial couple of weeks

00:20:37.260 of Elon Musk's ownership

00:20:38.940 that so offended them

00:20:40.420 and made them feel insecure?

00:20:42.280 Well,

00:20:42.480 it was the basic prospect

00:20:44.160 that there was

00:20:45.280 a freedom of speech

00:20:46.140 there that wasn't

00:20:46.700 entirely controlled

00:20:47.780 by the mainstream

00:20:48.460 corporate media.

00:20:49.700 That's their problem.

00:20:51.160 But yeah,

00:20:51.480 it's all theater.

00:20:52.340 It's all theater.

00:20:52.840 Just like all those companies

00:20:53.880 who said,

00:20:54.460 oh,

00:20:54.520 we're going to pause

00:20:55.300 all of our advertising

00:20:56.180 on Twitter

00:20:56.680 because of a brand safety issue.

00:20:59.280 It's about brand safety.

00:21:00.960 And it's like,

00:21:01.620 there are like porn stars

00:21:03.040 selling themselves

00:21:04.600 on Twitter every day.

00:21:06.340 And none of these major

00:21:07.260 Fortune 50 brands

00:21:08.640 gave a shit about any of that.

00:21:10.520 But Elon Musk buys it.

00:21:12.160 Now suddenly,

00:21:12.740 it's beneath us

00:21:13.660 to advertise here.

00:21:14.520 It's unsafe.

00:21:15.440 You know,

00:21:15.580 it's just absolute theater.

00:21:16.740 It's all fucking fake.

00:21:18.140 Exactly right.

00:21:18.880 So now,

00:21:19.420 so now,

00:21:20.060 the media is in a tizzy.

00:21:22.760 They're upset

00:21:23.620 about the fact

00:21:24.540 that Elon is in control

00:21:25.940 and he's expanding access

00:21:27.240 to the platform

00:21:28.020 the way it was

00:21:28.500 originally envisioned.

00:21:29.660 By the way,

00:21:30.160 if I can just take you back,

00:21:31.840 because you may recall

00:21:32.860 that there was

00:21:33.480 a certain candidate

00:21:34.520 for president

00:21:35.180 who had a lot of tweets

00:21:36.800 about yours truly.

00:21:37.880 Some,

00:21:38.280 some several hundred tweets.

00:21:40.120 Somebody once

00:21:40.600 counted them up

00:21:41.560 and did an article.

00:21:42.260 Oh,

00:21:42.380 I must have,

00:21:42.800 I must have missed that,

00:21:43.620 Megan,

00:21:43.920 it definitely unleashed

00:21:46.840 a shit storm

00:21:47.480 in that reporter's life.

00:21:49.020 Okay.

00:21:50.480 I met a senior executive

00:21:52.780 at Twitter

00:21:53.260 right around this time

00:21:54.460 that that was happening

00:21:55.180 in my own life

00:21:55.940 and the online campaign

00:21:57.440 against it.

00:21:57.740 It was crazy

00:21:58.160 what was happening.

00:21:59.080 And they were like,

00:22:00.160 you know,

00:22:00.480 we're really sorry

00:22:01.140 about everything

00:22:01.880 that happened on Twitter.

00:22:02.520 I'm like,

00:22:03.220 you are?

00:22:04.660 Okay,

00:22:05.720 fine,

00:22:06.420 but,

00:22:06.680 you know,

00:22:07.620 a little late,

00:22:08.620 but okay,

00:22:09.240 fine.

00:22:09.440 I don't expect you

00:22:10.040 to do anything about it.

00:22:11.360 They're like,

00:22:11.720 well,

00:22:11.800 we're really considering

00:22:12.640 we're really considering

00:22:13.520 doing something about it.

00:22:14.260 Okay,

00:22:14.720 so fine.

00:22:15.320 I didn't expect Twitter

00:22:16.300 to solve my problem.

00:22:17.160 That was a problem

00:22:17.560 I had directly

00:22:18.160 with the person

00:22:18.680 who was generating

00:22:19.360 the tweets

00:22:19.780 and the people

00:22:20.160 who were following

00:22:20.820 his orders,

00:22:22.020 right,

00:22:22.200 or following

00:22:23.120 sort of the hateful rhetoric

00:22:24.540 that followed.

00:22:25.520 But my point is that

00:22:26.920 as recently as 2015,

00:22:28.500 2016,

00:22:29.420 there was no anti-harassment

00:22:30.840 policy in place

00:22:31.560 at Twitter.

00:22:32.240 It was the Wild West.

00:22:33.800 It was a free-for-all.

00:22:35.000 I'd been on there

00:22:35.500 for eight years

00:22:36.160 at the time

00:22:36.740 that that happened

00:22:37.400 in my life

00:22:38.480 and people did all,

00:22:40.020 they did all right.

00:22:40.600 I'm not saying

00:22:41.140 it was great.

00:22:42.220 I'm just saying

00:22:42.900 Twitter's a mean place.

00:22:44.400 It's been a mean place

00:22:45.460 for a long time

00:22:46.260 and people in a world

00:22:47.760 like ours

00:22:48.200 where we prize

00:22:48.860 the First Amendment

00:22:49.600 and free speech

00:22:50.360 find ways

00:22:51.420 to work around

00:22:52.580 the negativity

00:22:53.840 that can come

00:22:54.440 from a site like that.

00:22:55.440 That's not to say

00:22:55.960 there shouldn't be

00:22:56.380 any boundaries,

00:22:57.500 but Elon's not saying

00:22:58.600 there shouldn't be

00:22:59.200 any boundaries.

00:22:59.980 He's just expanding it

00:23:01.300 not even to where

00:23:02.600 it was in 2015,

00:23:03.760 but just a little closer

00:23:05.220 to where it was

00:23:06.280 in 2015.

00:23:06.800 Yeah, look,

00:23:08.920 I think that's

00:23:09.480 really well said.

00:23:10.920 But to be honest,

00:23:12.600 it wasn't as though

00:23:13.820 they were taking action

00:23:15.500 against anyone

00:23:17.600 who was creating

00:23:18.620 a problem

00:23:18.980 for a conservative,

00:23:20.380 right?

00:23:20.660 The problem was,

00:23:21.780 and now it's been

00:23:22.440 unmasked

00:23:23.040 and Elon has confirmed

00:23:24.140 as much

00:23:24.640 on Twitter himself,

00:23:26.060 that all of the restrictions

00:23:28.060 that were in place

00:23:29.180 were basically

00:23:30.220 to silence conservatives.

00:23:31.760 So the problem wasn't

00:23:33.280 that people were being harassed.

00:23:34.620 I mean, hell,

00:23:35.220 I'm harassed all day,

00:23:36.380 every day, right?

00:23:37.160 But I kind of expect it

00:23:38.220 and I feel like

00:23:38.900 that's part of it.

00:23:39.440 That's why Smug's not here,

00:23:40.340 isn't it?

00:23:40.680 Tell us the truth.

00:23:41.260 That's why he's not here.

00:23:43.800 He's a good harasser,

00:23:45.300 by the way.

00:23:45.820 He's absolutely,

00:23:46.660 absolutely terrific.

00:23:47.880 If there is a harassing

00:23:49.160 Hall of Fame,

00:23:50.040 that guy is a first ballot deal.

00:23:51.760 Babe Ruth.

00:23:52.920 The Babe Ruth,

00:23:54.140 the harassers.

00:23:56.300 But I guess my point is

00:23:58.080 the harassment doesn't matter

00:23:59.940 if you're coming

00:24:00.620 after a conservative.

00:24:01.480 Like, it just,

00:24:02.540 it was never part of the issue.

00:24:04.540 The harassment is exclusively

00:24:06.180 restricted by Twitter

00:24:08.500 over the years

00:24:09.280 on people who had

00:24:09.960 a conservative point of view.

00:24:11.440 So much so that,

00:24:12.340 you know,

00:24:12.560 you enable fact checkers

00:24:14.180 that are entirely funded

00:24:15.560 by leftist 501c4 organizations

00:24:17.980 to serve as basically

00:24:19.620 the proxy

00:24:20.280 to allow you

00:24:21.380 to keep those people

00:24:22.200 or those media organizations

00:24:23.700 off the platform altogether.

00:24:25.180 It got so bad

00:24:26.380 that the platforms

00:24:28.400 that continue to allow

00:24:30.500 political advertising

00:24:32.000 would disallow

00:24:33.060 political advertising

00:24:34.560 if those fact checkers

00:24:35.960 said something

00:24:36.820 that was untrue

00:24:37.720 that was actually true.

00:24:39.720 So, I mean, look,

00:24:40.320 this whole thing

00:24:41.120 has gotten so perverted

00:24:42.520 and I think

00:24:43.580 what Elon is doing

00:24:44.620 is helping lift the veil

00:24:46.220 and show us all

00:24:47.680 what's been happening

00:24:48.480 over the years.

00:24:48.980 Well, that's why

00:24:49.500 the left is screaming

00:24:50.240 so loud

00:24:50.820 because their con,

00:24:52.040 the jig is up.

00:24:53.000 Yeah.

00:24:53.220 The con that they've been running

00:24:54.560 that you just described

00:24:55.540 that is a very,

00:24:56.420 it is an eight,

00:24:57.740 nine figure a year con

00:25:00.120 that they're funding

00:25:01.420 with resources

00:25:03.080 from foreign individuals,

00:25:05.580 I might add,

00:25:07.040 that is just,

00:25:08.340 has just ruined

00:25:09.700 our system of conversation

00:25:11.540 over the past few years.

00:25:12.660 What you're saying

00:25:13.460 about Elon

00:25:13.900 is exactly right.

00:25:14.840 He's improving the platform.

00:25:16.460 He just, he just said,

00:25:17.800 this is really exciting.

00:25:19.960 He just said

00:25:20.920 that he's going to release

00:25:22.280 what he calls

00:25:23.000 the Twitter files,

00:25:24.580 capital T, capital F,

00:25:26.200 about free speech suppression

00:25:28.440 by Twitter

00:25:29.960 prior to him taking it over

00:25:31.840 saying the public deserves

00:25:33.440 to know what really happened.

00:25:36.180 That's amazing.

00:25:38.140 That like,

00:25:38.540 that'll be a huge reveal

00:25:40.860 because we all know

00:25:42.060 that the ones

00:25:42.660 who have been suppressed

00:25:43.480 and had their follower

00:25:44.300 counts suppressed

00:25:45.120 and been censored

00:25:46.440 as you point out,

00:25:47.880 Holmes are on the right.

00:25:49.120 Not, maybe not entirely,

00:25:50.260 but the overwhelming majority

00:25:51.360 are going to be.

00:25:52.140 We've seen that.

00:25:53.100 Just look at the ones

00:25:53.760 who got back on

00:25:54.900 thanks to Elon's amnesty.

00:25:57.260 Jordan Peterson,

00:25:58.660 the Babylon Bee,

00:26:00.220 Project Veritas,

00:26:01.520 President Trump.

00:26:02.900 You know,

00:26:03.260 there isn't some

00:26:04.100 massive lefty.

00:26:05.640 Kathy Griffin

00:26:06.400 got booted by Elon

00:26:07.500 personally

00:26:08.000 because he didn't like

00:26:08.700 her impersonating him,

00:26:10.120 but she got back on.

00:26:11.240 That's not what

00:26:11.700 we're talking about.

00:26:13.260 But meanwhile,

00:26:14.040 if I can,

00:26:14.540 if I can refer you

00:26:15.580 to more of the media coverage

00:26:16.560 because it really does

00:26:17.360 give up the game

00:26:18.280 and how disgusting

00:26:19.500 these people are.

00:26:21.060 The AP tweets out

00:26:23.220 new Twitter owner,

00:26:24.760 Elon Musk,

00:26:25.220 says he's granting amnesty

00:26:26.340 for suspended accounts.

00:26:27.360 They're so upset about this,

00:26:28.580 which online safety experts

00:26:30.820 predict will spur

00:26:32.260 a rise in harassment,

00:26:33.860 hate speech,

00:26:34.320 and misinformation.

00:26:35.960 Welcome to America.

00:26:37.120 OK,

00:26:37.500 that's that shit happens.

00:26:38.860 And unless it crosses

00:26:39.680 the legal line,

00:26:40.420 we allow it.

00:26:41.100 Washington Post,

00:26:43.180 quote,

00:26:43.700 opening the gates of hell,

00:26:45.960 end quote.

00:26:46.860 Musk says he will revive

00:26:48.200 banned accounts.

00:26:49.620 Guess who wrote that one?

00:26:50.580 I'm going to give you one guess.

00:26:52.060 Your favorite columnist

00:26:52.980 at the Washington Post.

00:26:55.160 Ruben.

00:26:56.400 Taylor Lorenz.

00:26:57.980 Taylor Lorenz.

00:27:01.080 How could you miss that?

00:27:04.440 Listen,

00:27:05.220 it's a real coin flip.

00:27:07.060 Taylor Lorenz

00:27:07.700 has got to be,

00:27:08.360 I mean,

00:27:09.360 she's been dark

00:27:10.200 for a while.

00:27:11.700 Like,

00:27:11.880 they're both,

00:27:12.300 they're kind of nuts

00:27:13.400 in different ways,

00:27:14.280 aren't they?

00:27:14.720 Jennifer Rubin

00:27:15.360 and Taylor Lorenz.

00:27:17.320 Here's what Taylor Lorenz says.

00:27:18.800 My favorite thing

00:27:19.180 on Taylor Lorenz,

00:27:19.980 real quick, Megan,

00:27:21.060 is now,

00:27:21.600 if you've seen

00:27:22.000 on her Twitter account,

00:27:23.520 she has gotten rid

00:27:24.420 of her name.

00:27:25.440 Like,

00:27:25.580 it still has her same

00:27:26.960 at,

00:27:27.440 you know,

00:27:27.620 Taylor Lorenz.

00:27:28.300 But her name now says

00:27:29.420 in all caps,

00:27:30.340 subscribe to my sub stack.

00:27:32.120 You know,

00:27:32.580 like she's sitting

00:27:33.400 on the bow

00:27:34.060 of the Titanic

00:27:35.000 and she's like,

00:27:35.980 she's wearing the life vest

00:27:37.420 and she's going to have

00:27:38.040 to leave Twitter forever

00:27:39.040 and everybody better migrate

00:27:40.320 to her sub stack.

00:27:41.300 It's insanity.

00:27:42.100 I wonder how many subscribers

00:27:43.940 she's getting.

00:27:45.300 She'll be back.

00:27:46.220 They'll all be back

00:27:47.100 to Twitter.

00:27:47.700 They'll all be back.

00:27:48.320 Okay,

00:27:50.000 so she's talking about

00:27:51.120 that he's going to reinstate

00:27:54.980 these previously banned accounts

00:27:56.120 to the alarm

00:27:57.080 of activists

00:27:58.000 and online trust

00:27:59.880 and safety experts.

00:28:01.200 Glenn Greenwald

00:28:01.680 had a great post about

00:28:02.600 who the hell are those people?

00:28:04.060 That is a made up term.

00:28:05.460 Like,

00:28:06.160 you three and I,

00:28:07.360 we are now online safety experts

00:28:09.220 because I have pronounced it so.

00:28:11.600 Online safety experts

00:28:12.920 are concerned

00:28:13.780 and alarmed.

00:28:14.560 And then she says,

00:28:16.220 Apple and Google,

00:28:17.600 she's quoting somebody here,

00:28:19.540 Apple and Google

00:28:20.400 need to seriously

00:28:21.420 start exploring,

00:28:22.920 booting Twitter

00:28:23.620 off of the app store.

00:28:25.720 Recall,

00:28:26.180 viewers and listeners,

00:28:27.320 that's what happened

00:28:28.120 to Parler

00:28:28.880 after Jan 6th

00:28:30.300 and it decimated

00:28:31.520 this growing conservative

00:28:33.300 alternative to Twitter

00:28:34.540 by design.

00:28:36.340 The person she quotes,

00:28:37.640 Taylor Lorenz quotes

00:28:38.400 for this position

00:28:39.200 is Alejandra Caraballo,

00:28:41.980 clinical instructor

00:28:42.940 at Harvard Law's

00:28:44.680 Cyber Law Clinic.

00:28:46.680 What Musk is doing

00:28:47.380 is existentially dangerous

00:28:49.240 for various

00:28:50.140 marginalized communities.

00:28:52.040 They're going to die,

00:28:53.200 basically,

00:28:53.580 is what she's saying.

00:28:54.540 It's like opening

00:28:55.500 the gates of hell

00:28:56.720 in terms of havoc

00:28:58.300 it will cause.

00:29:00.240 I can't even begin

00:29:01.700 to state

00:29:02.380 how dangerous

00:29:03.740 this will be.

00:29:05.080 It is literally

00:29:06.520 life or death

00:29:08.180 for people.

00:29:09.340 Okay.

00:29:09.880 So who is

00:29:10.900 Alejandra Caraballo

00:29:13.680 or Bayo

00:29:14.380 who Taylor Lorenz

00:29:16.000 uses as her expert?

00:29:17.000 Who is this woman

00:29:17.680 who's so alarmed?

00:29:18.760 She's like the,

00:29:19.480 she's the Rachel Walensky

00:29:20.740 of Twitter safety.

00:29:23.820 Was that the truth?

00:29:25.080 Is that the truth

00:29:25.940 ministry lady?

00:29:27.460 No, it's not.

00:29:28.600 It's Jankowicz.

00:29:29.140 Yeah.

00:29:29.760 No, there's a million more

00:29:30.680 just like that Jankowicz

00:29:31.640 and this lady's one of them.

00:29:33.100 So the little

00:29:34.220 internet sleuthing

00:29:35.460 on Alejandro.

00:29:36.140 Alejandro.

00:29:37.420 It was Seth Dillon

00:29:38.540 actually who looked

00:29:39.240 into her background,

00:29:41.120 Alejandra.

00:29:42.200 And this is,

00:29:43.040 this is how he tweeted

00:29:44.800 about it.

00:29:45.620 Here we have

00:29:46.300 a call to violent action.

00:29:48.000 This is from one

00:29:48.440 of her earlier tweets

00:29:49.300 for the purpose

00:29:50.160 of intimidation

00:29:51.060 from at ES queer.

00:29:54.760 That's how she goes

00:29:55.360 on Twitter.

00:29:56.080 A far left

00:29:56.620 transgender activist

00:29:57.540 who accuses conservatives

00:29:58.540 of incitement

00:29:59.180 for thinking it's wrong

00:29:59.960 to sexualize,

00:30:00.680 exploit,

00:30:01.040 and mutilate children.

00:30:02.160 Then she wound up

00:30:02.840 deleting it.

00:30:03.280 Okay, I'm trying

00:30:04.020 to read my,

00:30:04.480 it's so small,

00:30:05.540 the writing.

00:30:06.360 Here's one

00:30:06.740 that she tweeted out

00:30:07.540 after the Supreme Court

00:30:08.620 Dobbs decision.

00:30:11.380 The justices

00:30:12.520 who overturned Roe

00:30:14.140 should never

00:30:15.260 know peace again.

00:30:17.380 It is our civic duty

00:30:18.500 to accost them

00:30:19.980 every time

00:30:21.380 they are in public.

00:30:22.960 They are pariahs.

00:30:25.160 Since women

00:30:25.660 don't have their rights,

00:30:27.040 these justices

00:30:27.760 should never have

00:30:28.800 a peaceful moment

00:30:29.920 in public again.

00:30:31.400 And then she tweets

00:30:32.420 out all six

00:30:34.080 of their photos

00:30:35.360 for reference

00:30:36.280 just to make sure

00:30:37.000 people know exactly

00:30:37.900 who she is.

00:30:38.720 This is Taylor Lorenz's

00:30:40.220 independent expert

00:30:42.600 on cyberbullying

00:30:45.080 and safety.

00:30:45.940 And safety.

00:30:46.600 Yeah, yeah.

00:30:47.180 This moron.

00:30:48.360 A month later,

00:30:49.280 Justice Kavanaugh

00:30:50.440 with an assassin

00:30:51.140 outside of his house.

00:30:52.460 I mean,

00:30:52.780 if ever there was

00:30:54.080 an internet safety,

00:30:54.960 that's it right there.

00:30:56.040 This lady's now

00:30:56.740 the source

00:30:57.340 for internet safety?

00:30:58.420 My goodness.

00:30:58.940 Do you believe?

00:30:59.820 It's absolutely disgusting.

00:31:01.460 This is how the media works.

00:31:02.700 This is why people hate them.

00:31:04.580 This woman,

00:31:05.200 Taylor Lorenz,

00:31:05.840 is trying to say,

00:31:06.540 like,

00:31:06.720 this is going to unleash

00:31:07.880 hell in people's lives.

00:31:09.140 And look at my expert.

00:31:10.500 She says lives are on the line.

00:31:12.020 And this is the woman

00:31:13.060 who put them there.

00:31:15.060 Right.

00:31:16.120 It's incredible.

00:31:17.160 You know,

00:31:17.320 if you take this whole thing

00:31:18.260 a step back,

00:31:19.020 just like at a 50,000 foot look,

00:31:21.180 what these people want to do

00:31:22.440 is basically limit

00:31:23.480 the interaction of conservatives

00:31:24.780 with anybody else

00:31:25.760 altogether, right?

00:31:26.640 And what the end result

00:31:28.100 of all of this

00:31:29.240 is the further polarization

00:31:30.960 of our society

00:31:32.040 where you get people

00:31:33.020 that don't have

00:31:34.120 any understanding

00:31:35.220 of different perspectives

00:31:36.520 and different cultures

00:31:37.520 because the only culture

00:31:39.440 that can be accepted

00:31:40.580 is a progressive left,

00:31:42.060 right?

00:31:42.640 And they'll censor out

00:31:43.760 anything else.

00:31:44.880 It is,

00:31:45.540 when you talk about

00:31:46.300 societal breakdowns

00:31:47.740 and the concern

00:31:48.720 that you have

00:31:49.300 just in a political discussion

00:31:51.420 in this country,

00:31:52.660 that I think

00:31:53.840 is the most meaningful change.

00:31:55.440 It's not been

00:31:55.880 the proliferation

00:31:56.680 of the internet.

00:31:57.500 It's not been

00:31:58.060 that you've got

00:31:58.580 everybody's ideas out there.

00:32:00.400 That's not the problem.

00:32:01.220 The problem is

00:32:01.960 is that you have

00:32:02.700 a committed progressive left

00:32:04.140 that is backed

00:32:05.080 by every major institution

00:32:06.340 in this country

00:32:06.960 at this point

00:32:07.620 that is saying

00:32:08.640 that if you have

00:32:09.280 a conservative point of view,

00:32:10.660 it is not worth listening to.

00:32:12.540 And if you have any doubts

00:32:13.320 about that,

00:32:13.820 come listen to our experts.

00:32:14.760 Well,

00:32:14.940 and to put a finer point on it

00:32:16.740 to see how this actually works

00:32:17.780 in practice, Megan,

00:32:18.960 and I wish Smug was here for this

00:32:20.680 because he's described it

00:32:21.700 to us many times.

00:32:23.060 But, you know,

00:32:23.560 while they're talking

00:32:24.360 about user safety

00:32:25.340 and how, you know,

00:32:26.380 this isn't going to put lives

00:32:27.220 on the line

00:32:27.700 if people are allowed

00:32:28.440 to have free speech

00:32:29.160 on Twitter,

00:32:29.980 in practicality,

00:32:31.380 what it means

00:32:32.020 is that it threatens

00:32:33.400 this whole ecosystem

00:32:34.480 the left has created

00:32:35.360 through academia

00:32:36.380 and these 501c4s

00:32:38.180 and the establishment,

00:32:39.460 you know,

00:32:39.940 figures within the Democrat orbit

00:32:41.680 who are in contact

00:32:42.820 with these fact checkers

00:32:44.440 or with Twitter writ large,

00:32:45.700 which I think we're going to see

00:32:46.720 in these Twitter files

00:32:47.880 that Elon's going to release.

00:32:49.300 But, you know,

00:32:50.540 if Smug got a video

00:32:52.060 that had damning evidence

00:32:53.680 against, let's say,

00:32:54.680 a Democratic Senate candidate

00:32:56.580 kissing Cal Cunningham,

00:32:58.180 for example,

00:32:58.900 and he posted it on Twitter,

00:33:00.680 you know what happened next,

00:33:02.160 Megan?

00:33:02.800 He would suddenly start

00:33:03.700 getting all these DMCA

00:33:04.960 report violations

00:33:06.760 on his account.

00:33:07.900 And what you would,

00:33:08.440 what we have,

00:33:08.940 somebody in the bowels

00:33:09.780 of the DNC

00:33:10.760 is reporting his old tweets,

00:33:13.860 like some meme

00:33:14.560 that used some audio

00:33:16.520 that, you know,

00:33:17.180 he's not allowed to use,

00:33:18.640 you know,

00:33:18.960 because it's copyrighted

00:33:20.060 or whatever.

00:33:20.880 And they would use that

00:33:21.880 as, as the way

00:33:22.720 to preempt his account

00:33:23.780 and get it taken down

00:33:24.740 for a while

00:33:25.280 so that he would delete

00:33:26.280 that video.

00:33:27.000 It's a pressure

00:33:27.700 and intimidation campaign

00:33:28.820 against information.

00:33:30.060 It has nothing

00:33:30.980 to do with safety.

00:33:32.060 Look, speaking of pressure

00:33:32.940 and intimidation

00:33:33.700 against information,

00:33:34.680 there is one platform

00:33:35.840 that Taylor Lorenz likes.

00:33:38.160 She's basically like

00:33:38.900 the press secretary for,

00:33:40.420 and that's TikTok.

00:33:41.380 And TikTok is wholly owned

00:33:43.060 and operated

00:33:43.700 by the Chinese government.

00:33:45.420 And have you seen

00:33:46.200 what they're doing?

00:33:46.880 The suppression

00:33:47.920 that TikTok is carrying on

00:33:49.960 against these,

00:33:50.620 these protesters in China

00:33:52.700 who are speaking out

00:33:54.200 against being welded

00:33:55.700 into their buildings

00:33:56.700 and these over,

00:33:57.840 like these overbearing

00:33:59.220 COVID restrictions.

00:34:01.040 It's horrifying.

00:34:02.480 Yeah, TikTok is stopping

00:34:04.260 these videos

00:34:04.940 from getting out.

00:34:05.960 Taylor Lorenz thinks

00:34:06.880 that they hung the moon.

00:34:07.660 That's a good idea.

00:34:08.460 And then you got reporters

00:34:09.360 in the White House

00:34:11.020 who are asking our government

00:34:12.480 to do more to stifle speech.

00:34:13.960 Right.

00:34:14.200 While that is going on,

00:34:15.300 think how sick that is.

00:34:16.760 Disgusting.

00:34:17.160 Yeah.

00:34:17.660 Well, so here's,

00:34:18.920 her article goes on

00:34:20.540 to sort of explain

00:34:21.420 some of the people

00:34:22.080 who are being allowed

00:34:22.780 back on,

00:34:23.320 you know,

00:34:23.460 to their horror.

00:34:24.620 Of course,

00:34:25.020 they talk about Trump.

00:34:26.740 Listen to how they describe

00:34:28.240 the sins,

00:34:29.400 okay,

00:34:29.620 of the people

00:34:30.040 who are being allowed

00:34:30.840 back on

00:34:31.480 in the context of

00:34:32.620 people will die.

00:34:33.980 They'll die.

00:34:34.680 Okay.

00:34:35.140 They talk about Trump.

00:34:36.740 Jordan Peterson,

00:34:37.720 a professor

00:34:38.320 who was banned

00:34:39.180 from Twitter

00:34:39.640 for misgendering

00:34:41.160 a trans person.

00:34:42.720 Yes,

00:34:42.920 people will die

00:34:43.520 as a result of that.

00:34:44.200 Okay.

00:34:44.520 By the way,

00:34:45.160 Alison Camerata

00:34:45.900 just did that on CNN

00:34:46.900 the other day

00:34:47.380 when we found out

00:34:47.960 the shooter

00:34:48.340 in the Colorado shooting

00:34:49.660 at the LGBTQ nightclub

00:34:51.340 calls himself

00:34:52.440 non-binary.

00:34:53.680 She refused

00:34:54.220 to say they them

00:34:55.140 even though

00:34:55.720 he made very clear

00:34:56.780 that's what he wants

00:34:57.300 to be called.

00:34:58.100 So should she be banned?

00:34:59.440 Maybe she should be

00:34:59.980 kicked off of CNN.

00:35:01.380 Babylon Bee,

00:35:02.660 a conservative media company.

00:35:04.240 That's it.

00:35:05.060 That's it.

00:35:05.660 That's it.

00:35:05.960 Yeah.

00:35:06.400 Their sin too

00:35:07.420 was to call

00:35:08.200 a trans person

00:35:09.100 by their biological pronouns.

00:35:10.620 But for purposes

00:35:12.000 of this piece

00:35:12.560 it was enough

00:35:13.020 for the Washington Post.

00:35:13.840 Yeah,

00:35:13.980 I got it.

00:35:14.280 Conservative media company.

00:35:15.120 Of course,

00:35:15.360 they did bad shit.

00:35:16.600 He also restored

00:35:17.320 Project Veritas,

00:35:21.640 a site,

00:35:22.420 get this,

00:35:23.480 that was frequently

00:35:24.460 accused

00:35:25.500 of misrepresenting

00:35:27.160 events it commented on.

00:35:29.960 Oh,

00:35:30.460 well,

00:35:30.680 it was accused.

00:35:31.820 Well,

00:35:32.060 hey,

00:35:32.280 this is America.

00:35:33.860 I mean,

00:35:34.300 might as well

00:35:34.620 just jump right

00:35:35.220 to the conviction

00:35:35.820 without a fair trial.

00:35:38.200 And so,

00:35:38.660 this is why

00:35:39.580 Glenn Greenwald

00:35:40.400 was going

00:35:41.420 on a tweet storm

00:35:42.600 about these

00:35:43.500 so-called experts

00:35:44.380 in here

00:35:44.820 labeling these people

00:35:45.840 problematic

00:35:46.460 and Elon's decision

00:35:47.600 as dangerous.

00:35:49.060 And I've got to read

00:35:49.720 you just a little

00:35:50.360 Glenn's tweets

00:35:51.280 because,

00:35:51.660 you know,

00:35:52.140 there's only one Glenn.

00:35:53.700 So he says,

00:35:54.960 pardon my French

00:35:55.820 because I would never

00:35:56.900 swear,

00:35:57.300 it's just that my friend

00:35:57.900 Glenn does.

00:35:58.700 No,

00:35:58.840 that's right.

00:35:59.200 You're just an accurate

00:36:00.000 reporter,

00:36:00.520 no question.

00:36:01.020 That's right.

00:36:01.340 He writes,

00:36:02.660 what the fuck

00:36:04.140 is an online

00:36:05.000 safety expert?

00:36:06.840 Do you see

00:36:07.620 how media outlets

00:36:09.060 baptize

00:36:09.940 totally fake

00:36:11.040 expertise industries

00:36:12.520 and titles

00:36:13.600 like disinformation

00:36:14.580 reporter

00:36:15.180 to launder

00:36:16.280 their highly

00:36:17.480 politicized

00:36:18.220 censorship agenda

00:36:19.220 as scientific,

00:36:21.180 data-based,

00:36:21.880 and neutral?

00:36:22.860 Such a good point.

00:36:23.620 Then he writes,

00:36:25.120 Taylor Lorenz

00:36:26.560 miraculously found

00:36:27.760 three or four people

00:36:29.280 more neurotic,

00:36:31.000 clearly unstable,

00:36:33.360 and censorship happy

00:36:34.600 than she,

00:36:35.820 bestowed them

00:36:36.500 with fake expertise

00:36:37.640 titles,

00:36:38.420 and now the Washington

00:36:39.360 Post is blasting

00:36:40.320 out her alarmist,

00:36:41.960 asylum-worthy

00:36:43.020 babbling

00:36:43.660 to millions.

00:36:45.120 Hashtag

00:36:45.620 journalism.

00:36:48.460 So right.

00:36:50.840 So well put.

00:36:51.740 And it was the same

00:36:52.760 thing we saw

00:36:53.360 with Russiagate,

00:36:54.320 remember?

00:36:54.920 It's like,

00:36:55.300 you know,

00:36:56.120 you couldn't walk

00:36:57.100 10 feet in D.C.

00:36:58.140 without tripping

00:36:58.760 over a Russia expert

00:36:59.840 all of a sudden.

00:37:00.920 You know,

00:37:01.600 and they were on CNN

00:37:02.440 every single night.

00:37:03.540 But really what it was

00:37:04.560 was to launder

00:37:05.380 the opinion

00:37:06.020 of the Democratic Party

00:37:07.060 that Donald Trump

00:37:08.080 and Vladimir Putin

00:37:08.840 were colluding,

00:37:09.520 and that's how,

00:37:10.040 you know,

00:37:10.420 he won the 2016 election,

00:37:11.760 and we had to hear

00:37:12.240 that for years.

00:37:12.820 Now suddenly all those

00:37:13.620 people have gone away.

00:37:14.760 They're not on CNN

00:37:15.300 every night,

00:37:16.080 but now we've got

00:37:16.600 everyone under the sun

00:37:17.480 as a misinformation

00:37:18.120 expert.

00:37:18.720 It's just theater,

00:37:20.320 absolute theater.

00:37:21.740 It is laundering.

00:37:22.760 I don't want to purport

00:37:25.300 to be an expert

00:37:26.000 in laundering

00:37:26.620 because I definitely

00:37:27.720 am not,

00:37:28.480 but that's laundering.

00:37:30.060 That is opinion laundering.

00:37:31.480 That's exactly right.

00:37:32.260 He's right,

00:37:32.680 and you're right.

00:37:33.640 Okay,

00:37:34.100 more opinions,

00:37:35.100 fresh,

00:37:35.760 right out of the laundry.

00:37:37.320 Maybe dirty,

00:37:38.120 dirty opinions.

00:37:38.940 We don't need to launder

00:37:39.580 them from the Ruthless guys

00:37:41.100 when they stay with us

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00:38:19.160 I'm not done with Twitter.

00:38:20.440 There's so much news going on.

00:38:22.060 Alyssa Milano.

00:38:23.520 Alyssa Milano.

00:38:24.860 I mean,

00:38:25.160 this is one of those

00:38:25.920 self-owns,

00:38:27.100 as the kids would say.

00:38:28.660 She decides to give back

00:38:30.660 her Tesla

00:38:31.400 because Elon Musk,

00:38:32.540 of course,

00:38:32.840 owns Tesla

00:38:33.640 in addition to now Twitter.

00:38:35.800 And she tweeted,

00:38:37.720 I gave back my Tesla.

00:38:39.500 I bought the VW

00:38:41.320 electric vehicle.

00:38:42.720 I love it.

00:38:43.700 I'm not sure how advertisers

00:38:44.940 can buy space on Twitter.

00:38:46.880 Publicly traded companies

00:38:47.840 products being pushed

00:38:48.880 in alignment with hate

00:38:50.220 and white supremacy

00:38:51.460 does not seem to be

00:38:52.960 a winning business model.

00:38:54.320 Even though I'm going to

00:38:55.160 stay here and talk to

00:38:55.880 my many, many followers

00:38:56.780 because it makes me feel special.

00:38:58.300 I added that last part.

00:38:59.900 Then you've got

00:39:00.660 the Hodge twins.

00:39:01.840 They're great.

00:39:02.700 They came on the show.

00:39:03.860 Who tweeted out,

00:39:05.680 Volkswagen was literally

00:39:06.880 founded by the Nazis

00:39:08.080 and Hitler.

00:39:09.500 But hey,

00:39:13.780 you do you.

00:39:14.720 This is how the

00:39:15.380 Hollywood leftists are

00:39:17.080 and it's amazing.

00:39:18.100 They know nothing

00:39:18.640 about anything.

00:39:20.060 Just total lack

00:39:21.260 of substance, right?

00:39:22.400 Everything is a cause

00:39:23.860 though, right?

00:39:24.860 They've got to get involved.

00:39:26.200 I can't figure out

00:39:27.040 from Alyssa Milano's

00:39:28.360 standpoint

00:39:28.600 or anybody else's

00:39:29.400 standpoint

00:39:29.700 what the primary

00:39:30.820 objection here is

00:39:32.240 other than the fact

00:39:33.160 that all other lefties

00:39:34.360 seem to be pissed off

00:39:35.800 about it.

00:39:36.420 I guess it's the

00:39:37.360 reinstatement

00:39:37.920 of these accounts.

00:39:38.740 I don't know

00:39:40.840 but in and of himself

00:39:42.220 Elon Musk

00:39:43.220 is only

00:39:44.620 controversial

00:39:45.360 now.

00:39:47.420 For years

00:39:48.420 Democrats bent over

00:39:49.300 backwards to try

00:39:50.060 to showcase

00:39:50.580 Tesla

00:39:51.040 as the next

00:39:52.160 energy revolution

00:39:53.220 in this country

00:39:54.080 and they would create

00:39:54.860 tax credits

00:39:55.900 after tax credits

00:39:56.920 and all of these

00:39:57.720 different tax bills

00:39:58.640 to try to incentivize

00:40:00.160 Elon Musk's

00:40:00.960 company of Tesla

00:40:01.820 and having electric

00:40:03.020 vehicles overtake

00:40:04.340 gas powered vehicles

00:40:05.660 in this country

00:40:06.380 it was only

00:40:07.340 when he started

00:40:08.720 coming out

00:40:09.340 in a little bit

00:40:10.580 of challenging

00:40:11.460 their point of view

00:40:12.420 by the way

00:40:12.980 he's not a conservative

00:40:14.080 Elon Musk

00:40:14.840 is not a conservative

00:40:15.600 if anything

00:40:16.380 he's a libertarian

00:40:17.400 in many ways

00:40:18.520 but he's certainly

00:40:19.860 not like a Republican

00:40:21.240 and the fact

00:40:23.140 that he himself

00:40:24.660 has now become

00:40:25.680 this controversial

00:40:26.780 figure who they say

00:40:27.940 is promoting

00:40:28.900 white supremacy

00:40:29.820 it just gives you

00:40:30.980 a good insight

00:40:31.780 in the delusions

00:40:33.080 of these people

00:40:34.080 the media reaction

00:40:37.660 is awful

00:40:38.960 and so is that

00:40:40.000 of the left

00:40:40.460 but I repeat myself

00:40:41.440 another example

00:40:42.620 is from the New Yorker

00:40:44.440 Jelani Cobb

00:40:46.000 who's also

00:40:46.780 wait for it

00:40:47.540 dean of Columbia

00:40:49.340 Journalism School

00:40:50.520 there we go

00:40:51.180 I remember Roger Ailes

00:40:52.580 used to say

00:40:52.980 that's disqualifying

00:40:54.100 if I see that

00:40:54.600 on a resume

00:40:55.300 to Columbia Journalism School

00:40:57.240 you know

00:40:58.240 for obvious reasons

00:40:59.680 by God

00:41:00.220 first of all

00:41:00.600 journalism is a trade

00:41:01.380 it's not a profession

00:41:01.960 you learn it by doing it

00:41:03.000 you don't sit in a classroom

00:41:04.100 and listen to somebody

00:41:04.720 like Jelani Cobb

00:41:06.180 what the hell

00:41:06.660 what has Jelani done

00:41:08.020 at the New Yorker

00:41:08.520 I guess I'll have to look it up

00:41:09.480 why I quit

00:41:12.440 Elon Musk's Twitter

00:41:14.020 and like a lot of these

00:41:14.840 leftists

00:41:15.300 it's not enough to leave

00:41:16.440 he's got to go out

00:41:17.240 in a ban of martyrhood

00:41:18.420 right

00:41:18.680 like a martyrdom

00:41:19.580 I'm amazing

00:41:21.300 and listen to how amazing

00:41:22.620 I am as I quit

00:41:23.340 as I quit Twitter

00:41:24.120 it has been

00:41:25.860 an interminable month

00:41:28.000 since Elon Musk

00:41:29.520 assumed control

00:41:30.580 of Twitter

00:41:31.140 who are these idiots

00:41:32.980 he's on the

00:41:34.080 Russian front

00:41:35.520 yeah

00:41:35.860 John

00:41:36.500 yes

00:41:37.020 writing for the New York

00:41:38.480 this magazine

00:41:39.540 by the way

00:41:40.280 is just a never ending

00:41:41.200 source of comedy

00:41:41.980 yeah

00:41:42.360 I mean

00:41:42.980 I highly encourage

00:41:44.080 any conservative

00:41:44.760 just open it up

00:41:45.640 and laugh for a few minutes

00:41:46.740 you are 100% right

00:41:48.220 he talks about it

00:41:49.180 he's like in Ukraine

00:41:50.240 and the tanks

00:41:50.740 are moving in

00:41:51.380 the platform

00:41:53.500 has lost

00:41:54.400 at least a million users

00:41:55.600 last week

00:41:56.800 after 14 years

00:41:58.420 on the platform

00:41:59.120 I became

00:42:00.900 one of them

00:42:01.960 goes on

00:42:04.580 the mellow drama

00:42:05.240 is fantastic

00:42:05.860 why

00:42:06.260 okay

00:42:06.720 and he has to let us know

00:42:07.880 that he has

00:42:08.260 400,000 followers

00:42:09.600 okay

00:42:09.940 so he's like

00:42:10.580 he's special

00:42:11.440 yeah

00:42:11.780 so okay

00:42:13.500 this is why

00:42:14.340 Twitter is so valuable

00:42:15.660 go back

00:42:16.240 go back to after

00:42:17.080 George Floyd

00:42:17.780 and his murder

00:42:19.000 went viral on the platform

00:42:20.040 blah blah blah

00:42:20.600 were it not

00:42:21.420 for social media

00:42:22.300 George Floyd

00:42:23.320 along with

00:42:24.420 Ahmaud Arbery

00:42:25.220 and Breonna Taylor

00:42:26.460 would likely have joined

00:42:28.000 the long gallery

00:42:29.020 of invisible

00:42:30.200 dead

00:42:30.900 black people

00:42:31.860 citizens

00:42:32.860 whose bureaucratized

00:42:34.360 deaths were hidden

00:42:35.280 and ignored

00:42:36.160 really

00:42:36.660 because as I recall

00:42:37.640 the George Floyd death

00:42:38.640 was on loop

00:42:39.940 on cable news

00:42:41.300 for weeks

00:42:42.600 believe it or not

00:42:43.500 there are separate

00:42:44.080 media entities

00:42:44.820 not controlled

00:42:45.860 by Twitter

00:42:46.340 sir

00:42:47.080 this is what was

00:42:48.640 at stake

00:42:49.200 quietly

00:42:50.100 and loudly

00:42:50.980 when Musk

00:42:51.980 acquired

00:42:52.600 Twitter

00:42:53.160 his reinstatement

00:42:55.040 of Donald Trump's

00:42:56.040 account

00:42:56.300 made remaining

00:42:57.080 completely untenable

00:42:58.540 meanwhile

00:42:59.280 Trump hasn't even

00:43:00.140 tweeted one thing

00:43:01.040 he's like

00:43:01.660 I don't see the point

00:43:02.640 I have my own social

00:43:03.580 but this guy's like

00:43:04.280 I'm out of here

00:43:05.600 that's the last straw

00:43:06.720 goes on to say

00:43:07.980 um

00:43:08.340 the

00:43:09.140 talks about

00:43:10.140 Trump was booted

00:43:12.040 after January 6th

00:43:13.540 uh

00:43:13.900 and says

00:43:14.440 then Musk

00:43:15.040 reinstated him

00:43:15.720 the implication

00:43:16.440 was clear

00:43:17.040 if promoting

00:43:18.220 the January 6th

00:43:19.800 insurrection

00:43:20.320 which left

00:43:21.620 at least

00:43:22.220 seven people

00:43:23.220 dead

00:43:23.660 that's a lie

00:43:25.260 it did not

00:43:26.680 and more than

00:43:27.760 a hundred police

00:43:28.340 officers injured

00:43:28.960 doesn't warrant

00:43:29.700 suspension to Musk

00:43:30.880 then nothing else

00:43:31.980 on the platform

00:43:32.460 likely could

00:43:32.940 okay there was

00:43:33.500 a suspension

00:43:34.000 there's been a

00:43:34.780 suspension

00:43:35.140 of over a year

00:43:36.360 right

00:43:36.940 this

00:43:37.240 Elon Musk's point

00:43:38.220 is you can now

00:43:38.820 come back

00:43:39.420 I don't believe

00:43:40.240 in this permanent

00:43:40.740 ban of you

00:43:41.720 um

00:43:42.520 so that's that guy

00:43:43.840 okay I just

00:43:44.340 had to bring you

00:43:45.340 like it's got

00:43:46.040 every item

00:43:46.780 the Columbia

00:43:47.780 journalism thing

00:43:48.680 the New Yorker

00:43:49.920 the martyrdom

00:43:51.160 has to mention

00:43:52.140 the number

00:43:52.480 of followers

00:43:52.980 so you think

00:43:53.460 that this person

00:43:53.980 is important

00:43:54.680 misstating facts

00:43:56.140 while touting

00:43:56.720 his own

00:43:57.020 journalistic

00:43:57.560 credos

00:43:58.240 um

00:43:58.980 and then making

00:43:59.560 up facts

00:44:00.020 about George

00:44:00.500 Floyd

00:44:00.800 and other

00:44:02.240 people who

00:44:02.660 have had

00:44:02.980 encounters

00:44:03.640 with the

00:44:03.920 police

00:44:04.140 now

00:44:04.940 that brings

00:44:05.500 me to

00:44:06.000 Chris Hayes

00:44:07.140 okay Chris

00:44:07.880 Hayes of

00:44:08.220 MSNBC

00:44:08.680 oh my favorite

00:44:09.700 oh my god

00:44:10.740 this is amazing

00:44:11.460 I'm sorry to be

00:44:12.680 dominating

00:44:13.040 with all these

00:44:13.620 readings

00:44:13.920 but I knew

00:44:14.560 you guys

00:44:14.880 would love

00:44:15.200 this stuff

00:44:15.760 Chris Hayes

00:44:17.020 writes an opinion

00:44:17.680 printed in the

00:44:18.420 New York Times

00:44:18.940 why I want

00:44:21.300 Twitter to

00:44:22.180 live

00:44:22.600 he wants

00:44:23.400 a reprieve

00:44:24.020 from the

00:44:24.520 governor

00:44:24.760 uh

00:44:25.920 my Twitter

00:44:27.040 archive

00:44:27.860 who even

00:44:29.400 knows how

00:44:29.800 big their

00:44:30.100 Twitter archive

00:44:30.720 is like

00:44:31.040 what

00:44:31.300 I didn't

00:44:31.860 even know

00:44:32.080 there was

00:44:32.460 a Twitter

00:44:32.760 archive

00:44:33.260 what

00:44:33.820 my Twitter

00:44:35.160 archive

00:44:35.580 is over

00:44:36.380 6.4

00:44:37.200 gigabytes

00:44:37.740 more than

00:44:38.980 161,000

00:44:41.180 tweets over

00:44:41.700 15 years

00:44:42.560 it's enough

00:44:43.440 writing to

00:44:43.860 fill about

00:44:44.220 10 books

00:44:45.040 by the way

00:44:45.900 Chris Hayes

00:44:46.500 this is pathetic

00:44:47.320 and these are

00:44:47.980 this is in the

00:44:48.580 category of

00:44:49.020 facts you

00:44:49.340 should not

00:44:49.660 reveal publicly

00:44:50.440 about yourself

00:44:51.020 what was going

00:44:52.920 on when I

00:44:53.420 tweeted

00:44:53.720 wait

00:44:54.300 which one

00:44:55.140 in October

00:44:55.780 2008

00:44:56.480 I'll never

00:44:57.460 know

00:44:57.860 okay

00:44:58.720 so first of

00:44:59.460 all he's

00:45:00.260 done 161,000

00:45:01.580 tweets which

00:45:02.120 have gotten

00:45:02.460 him 2.4

00:45:03.740 million in

00:45:04.340 followers

00:45:04.720 I just want

00:45:05.300 him to know

00:45:05.720 that I've

00:45:06.120 tweeted

00:45:06.380 about

00:45:07.500 well he's

00:45:09.460 tweeted 10

00:45:10.140 times as many

00:45:10.800 times as I

00:45:11.300 have 17,000

00:45:12.180 tweets I

00:45:12.760 had Abby

00:45:13.240 go back and

00:45:13.620 check prior

00:45:14.260 to today and

00:45:14.700 reading his

00:45:15.060 stupid column I

00:45:15.740 had no idea

00:45:16.200 how many tweets

00:45:16.680 I'd ever done

00:45:17.180 in about as

00:45:18.000 many years

00:45:18.420 17,000 by

00:45:19.520 me 161,000

00:45:21.360 by him

00:45:21.880 and I do

00:45:23.180 have more

00:45:23.520 Twitter followers

00:45:24.120 just FYI

00:45:24.860 so this is him

00:45:26.520 trying to make

00:45:27.800 himself super

00:45:28.300 important

00:45:28.660 then then he

00:45:29.900 talks about how

00:45:30.800 he did download

00:45:32.480 his archive in the

00:45:33.540 wake of Elon's

00:45:34.120 purchase

00:45:34.420 I did not do

00:45:36.800 that because I

00:45:37.440 thought Twitter was

00:45:37.960 going to die

00:45:38.500 but I did not

00:45:39.720 want the sole

00:45:40.460 record of my

00:45:41.580 micro blogging

00:45:43.040 that's his

00:45:43.680 Twitter experience

00:45:44.340 my micro blogging

00:45:46.140 to be owned

00:45:47.920 by a red

00:45:48.680 pilled

00:45:49.040 billionaire

00:45:49.580 going through

00:45:50.160 a midlife

00:45:50.760 crisis

00:45:51.340 he goes on

00:45:52.440 to say

00:45:52.880 if Twitter

00:45:53.860 survives and I

00:45:54.440 fervently hope

00:45:54.920 it does

00:45:55.280 its near-death

00:45:55.980 experience has

00:45:56.640 revealed something

00:45:57.320 fundamental

00:45:57.880 about our

00:45:58.740 online lives

00:45:59.640 wait for it

00:46:00.900 the digital

00:46:01.960 spaces of

00:46:02.580 civic life

00:46:03.220 the public

00:46:04.200 town square

00:46:05.100 as Mr.

00:46:05.980 Musk deemed

00:46:06.360 Twitter

00:46:06.620 have been

00:46:07.740 privatized

00:46:08.640 to our

00:46:09.720 collective

00:46:10.560 detriment

00:46:11.420 oh

00:46:12.860 is it hard

00:46:14.320 when your

00:46:15.020 worldview

00:46:15.580 is not the

00:46:16.420 only one

00:46:17.280 that can be

00:46:17.960 aired

00:46:18.340 when because

00:46:19.460 of private

00:46:20.140 ownership

00:46:20.700 you feel

00:46:21.820 a little

00:46:22.200 less in

00:46:22.920 control

00:46:23.460 boo

00:46:24.300 fucking

00:46:24.900 who

00:46:25.340 welcome

00:46:26.200 to the

00:46:26.520 life

00:46:26.760 of everyone

00:46:28.200 in the

00:46:28.880 center

00:46:29.140 and the

00:46:29.640 center

00:46:29.840 right

00:46:30.080 since the

00:46:30.800 beginning

00:46:31.020 of well

00:46:32.320 the past

00:46:32.700 modern era

00:46:33.180 at least

00:46:33.560 Twitter

00:46:34.500 this is the

00:46:35.100 last part

00:46:35.480 is where I

00:46:36.760 spend a good

00:46:37.600 deal of my

00:46:38.420 life

00:46:38.820 again

00:46:39.460 don't admit

00:46:40.400 this shit

00:46:40.860 publicly

00:46:41.300 sir

00:46:41.700 that's partly

00:46:44.700 because I'm

00:46:45.620 an inveterate

00:46:46.540 poster

00:46:47.000 and have

00:46:48.020 been

00:46:48.340 most of

00:46:49.600 my life

00:46:50.320 and also

00:46:52.200 because it

00:46:52.880 allows me to

00:46:53.360 synthesize vast

00:46:54.060 amounts of

00:46:54.400 information

00:46:54.940 blah blah blah

00:46:56.020 blah blah

00:46:56.440 and he goes

00:46:57.780 on from there

00:46:58.200 again just like

00:46:59.700 the New Yorker

00:47:00.200 guy it hits

00:47:01.280 every note

00:47:02.500 doesn't it

00:47:03.280 look here's

00:47:04.660 one other

00:47:05.060 thing I

00:47:05.600 just one

00:47:06.080 quick observation

00:47:07.100 if Bill

00:47:07.940 Bennett were

00:47:08.860 to write

00:47:09.320 a book

00:47:09.840 about

00:47:10.300 left-wing

00:47:10.980 virtues

00:47:11.780 in America

00:47:12.700 I think

00:47:13.100 narcissism

00:47:13.800 would be

00:47:14.120 the first

00:47:14.460 chapter

00:47:14.860 I mean

00:47:16.240 to be honest

00:47:16.720 with you

00:47:16.940 that is

00:47:17.380 the perfect

00:47:18.180 definition

00:47:18.680 of narcissistic

00:47:19.460 personality

00:47:19.980 disorder

00:47:20.400 imagine

00:47:21.200 like we were

00:47:21.900 talking about

00:47:22.320 shitty

00:47:22.600 shitty grappa

00:47:23.620 earlier

00:47:24.040 imagine how

00:47:25.380 shitty a

00:47:26.160 book

00:47:26.520 Chris Hayes

00:47:28.680 tweets

00:47:29.320 would make

00:47:29.860 right

00:47:30.200 oh

00:47:30.520 stop it

00:47:33.220 don't

00:47:34.240 diminish

00:47:34.680 his work

00:47:35.560 on there

00:47:35.880 this whole

00:47:36.300 life's

00:47:36.680 work

00:47:36.940 they think

00:47:38.220 of Twitter

00:47:38.720 they think

00:47:39.140 of Twitter

00:47:39.480 as their

00:47:40.180 own personal

00:47:40.940 diary that

00:47:42.080 they clutch

00:47:42.560 on their

00:47:42.880 chest every

00:47:43.800 day like

00:47:44.600 get outside

00:47:45.120 and touch

00:47:45.580 grass like

00:47:46.320 get a

00:47:46.620 life

00:47:46.960 but that

00:47:50.480 guy goes

00:47:50.940 back to

00:47:51.280 your earlier

00:47:51.760 point though

00:47:52.300 about their

00:47:52.580 little echo

00:47:53.300 echo chamber

00:47:54.100 in which they

00:47:54.700 live where

00:47:55.480 they don't

00:47:56.000 leave it all

00:47:56.600 they do is

00:47:57.040 sit around

00:47:57.360 and tweet

00:47:57.920 all day

00:47:58.500 and and

00:47:59.720 suddenly they're

00:48:00.280 like oh my

00:48:00.800 god now that

00:48:01.280 Elon's bought

00:48:01.960 it I realize

00:48:02.700 it's private

00:48:03.820 and that's

00:48:05.040 really dangerous

00:48:05.820 that could lead

00:48:06.520 to things I

00:48:07.300 don't like

00:48:07.920 oh my gosh

00:48:10.860 you mean

00:48:11.140 that your

00:48:11.840 data security

00:48:12.860 is not

00:48:13.240 totally put

00:48:14.480 together when

00:48:15.060 you put

00:48:15.320 everything

00:48:15.620 online

00:48:16.100 does that

00:48:17.040 live forever

00:48:17.600 oh my gosh

00:48:18.420 that's incredible

00:48:19.160 I can't believe

00:48:20.100 it let's make

00:48:21.020 another tick tock

00:48:21.800 and see how

00:48:22.180 that works

00:48:22.600 out I

00:48:23.660 might now be

00:48:24.280 subjected to

00:48:24.840 viewpoints

00:48:25.320 I don't

00:48:26.940 like I

00:48:27.840 with which I

00:48:28.420 don't agree

00:48:29.440 this is so

00:48:30.180 bizarre

00:48:30.760 okay there's so

00:48:32.060 much more to

00:48:32.420 get to

00:48:32.700 today's news

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00:49:17.060 really interesting one

00:49:17.700 out today with Dan

00:49:18.560 Abrams who used to

00:49:19.380 run MSNBC and

00:49:20.600 pinpoints the exact

00:49:21.600 moment it went from

00:49:23.500 what was once a

00:49:24.400 centrist network to a

00:49:25.880 leftist network he was

00:49:27.080 there he remembers and

00:49:28.120 he knows exactly how it

00:49:29.020 happened and walks you

00:49:29.700 through it well worth

00:49:30.980 your time and there's

00:49:31.600 a great one with

00:49:32.160 Paulina Portzkova which

00:49:33.860 we highlighted last

00:49:34.520 week anyway check it

00:49:35.400 out so I mentioned

00:49:39.440 Kareem Jean-Pierre a

00:49:40.780 little earlier and I

00:49:41.700 this doesn't have

00:49:43.000 anything to do with

00:49:43.620 anything other than I

00:49:44.420 really wanted to show

00:49:45.220 it to you you know if

00:49:47.120 you're really really

00:49:47.680 smart you're really

00:49:48.900 really smart someday you

00:49:50.000 might grow up and

00:49:50.780 offer some massive

00:49:51.460 contribution to mankind

00:49:52.360 which winds up winning

00:49:54.240 you a Nobel Prize a

00:49:56.440 Nobel Prize named after

00:49:58.420 the Swedish chemist

00:49:59.880 Alfred Nobel who

00:50:02.120 created this I think

00:50:03.300 early 1900s was when

00:50:05.060 this first started and

00:50:06.060 everybody knows about

00:50:06.760 the Nobel Prize because

00:50:07.660 it's something that they

00:50:08.300 talk about in school and

00:50:09.180 we celebrate the winners

00:50:09.940 every year and President

00:50:10.900 Biden to his credit

00:50:11.720 invited some of them to

00:50:13.160 the White House to

00:50:13.760 celebrate them winning

00:50:15.000 their respective Nobel

00:50:16.160 Prizes they come in like

00:50:17.500 five different categories

00:50:18.320 like physics and

00:50:19.320 chemistry and all stuff

00:50:20.100 that I was bad at and

00:50:21.540 although I think

00:50:22.300 literature is one of them

00:50:23.060 in any event it is they

00:50:25.340 go to the White House and

00:50:26.340 the subject came up with

00:50:28.000 Korean jump here and I'm

00:50:29.740 just going to play you the

00:50:30.460 soundbite today President

00:50:33.320 Biden met with three US

00:50:34.980 winners of the 2022 Nobel

00:50:37.420 Prize Dr Caroline Bertozzi who

00:50:41.380 won the Nobel Prize in

00:50:43.160 chemistry Dr John Clouser who

00:50:46.360 won the Nobel Prize in

00:50:48.100 physics and Dr Douglas Diamond

00:50:50.680 who won the Nobel Prize in

00:50:52.120 economic sciences oh my god

00:50:57.000 and they get on us if we say

00:51:00.820 Iran instead of Iran we're

00:51:05.340 not allowed to say the ad

00:51:08.960 talents she did it five times

00:51:11.440 in total I'm so I have

00:51:13.800 secondhand embarrassment

00:51:14.540 Nobel the Nobel Prize there's

00:51:16.700 no such thing as the Nobel

00:51:17.540 Prize does it surprise you at

00:51:19.840 all that she has no idea what

00:51:20.900 that is no it doesn't that's

00:51:22.960 what's sad it should surprise

00:51:24.240 me I mean honestly it has

00:51:27.880 been amazing you know you

00:51:29.240 always thought of a White

00:51:30.140 House spokesperson at least

00:51:31.960 you know when I was growing

00:51:32.820 up you see these people and

00:51:34.120 you're like wow that is

00:51:35.220 incredibly impressive to have

00:51:37.220 a mastery of subject matter

00:51:38.880 wide-ranging and all things

00:51:40.600 global and domestic and policy

00:51:43.360 understandings and ability to

00:51:44.920 sort of articulate it well and

00:51:46.440 all this stuff and then like

00:51:47.720 the last few years you're like

00:51:50.020 my god what is what have we

00:51:52.660 become what has happened those

00:51:55.520 two words are spelled

00:51:56.300 differently by the way that's

00:51:57.540 that should have been the

00:51:58.160 first clue Nobel and noble

00:52:00.400 not spelled the same all the

00:52:02.900 reading she does directly from

00:52:04.480 this binder in front of her you

00:52:05.840 think yeah she could figure out

00:52:07.100 the pronunciation by the way

00:52:08.340 that it's spelled it's

00:52:09.300 clearly not that that would be

00:52:11.100 the bare minimum of prep you

00:52:12.640 would do is to pronounce the

00:52:13.660 the words that you've taken the

00:52:16.820 in front of potentially

00:52:17.420 millions of Americans it's

00:52:19.020 humiliating okay speaking of

00:52:21.020 the Biden administration

00:52:21.920 they've had a bit of an

00:52:23.160 embarrassment this week in

00:52:24.400 their attempts to hire people

00:52:27.020 from all walks of life

00:52:28.600 including people who are

00:52:30.080 non-binary they found out the

00:52:32.360 hard way deep background

00:52:34.080 checks and making sure these

00:52:35.580 are people of character and

00:52:36.560 not just checking a diversity

00:52:37.720 box this might be important I

00:52:40.580 give you a senior energy

00:52:42.020 department official by the

00:52:44.540 name of Sam Brinton now Sam

00:52:46.940 Brinton again goes by

00:52:48.880 non-binary says Sam is

00:52:51.020 non-binary and Sam was

00:52:53.940 hailed as one of the

00:52:54.920 government's first ever

00:52:56.580 non-binary officials okay this

00:52:59.460 is Sam don't know what's

00:53:01.040 going on here with Sam but

00:53:02.480 that's Sam Sam decided in

00:53:04.940 between doing stuff for the

00:53:06.240 Department of Energy and this

00:53:07.420 very important job called the

00:53:08.780 deputy assistant secretary for

00:53:10.240 spent fuel and waste

00:53:11.240 disposition Sam is now on

00:53:13.240 leave from the Department of

00:53:14.880 Energy why because you're not

00:53:17.920 going to believe this this is

00:53:19.440 like unbelievable stuff Sam you

00:53:22.140 know and you know I'm like I

00:53:23.480 can't really talk about airport

00:53:24.560 baggage yet without being

00:53:26.460 triggered because of my own

00:53:27.540 experience oh yeah right I

00:53:28.360 remember that but this is a

00:53:29.880 story about baggage at the

00:53:31.220 airport Sam according to the

00:53:33.000 criminal complaint that's been

00:53:34.180 filed against Sam on October

00:53:35.360 26th in Minnesota State Court

00:53:37.180 showed up at the airport and

00:53:40.260 allegedly took a Vera Bradley

00:53:42.920 suitcase worth twenty three

00:53:45.460 hundred twenty five dollars

00:53:46.960 from the luggage carousel now

00:53:50.280 you might think maybe Sam has

00:53:51.980 been wrongly accused who who

00:53:53.780 hasn't mistaken a bag here or

00:53:55.640 there or for a moment thought

00:53:56.740 that this one was theirs and it

00:53:58.280 turns out it wasn't maybe Sam is

00:54:00.320 being railroaded well let's let's

00:54:02.260 read on after the suitcase's

00:54:04.260 owner alerted police officers doing

00:54:07.220 their due diligence reviewed video

00:54:09.280 surveillance of the carousel and

00:54:11.540 identified Brinton taking the

00:54:13.520 luggage all right well but once

00:54:15.080 again bags look alike what is it

00:54:16.480 like that you got the one black

00:54:17.740 bag looks just like the other

00:54:18.700 black bag it's wheelie who knows

00:54:20.060 so so far I'm open-minded to Sam's

00:54:22.640 innocence then it comes they

00:54:25.300 identified Brinton taking the

00:54:26.620 luggage before Sam removed its tag

00:54:29.840 that identified the owner then okay

00:54:37.480 well maybe Sam thought um the back

00:54:40.680 the tag is falling off it's

00:54:42.100 annoying me I'm gonna get rid of it

00:54:43.500 here I'm gonna give Sam the benefit

00:54:44.620 of the doubt law enforcement

00:54:46.360 observed Brinton using the luggage

00:54:48.980 during at least two other trips to

00:54:51.120 Washington DC because you see Sam did

00:54:52.940 not then take the bag home and

00:54:54.640 innocently realize this is not my

00:54:56.500 shit

00:54:57.080 Sam was luggage shopping yeah

00:55:02.160 totally and then they finally

00:55:05.180 called Sam on October 9th cops did

00:55:08.140 and uh Sam denied stealing anything

00:55:11.040 and said if I had taken the wrong

00:55:13.300 bag I am happy to return it but I

00:55:14.740 don't have any clothes for another

00:55:16.360 individual that was my clothes when I

00:55:19.740 opened the bag that was okay that

00:55:22.880 was my that was my clothes and I was

00:55:25.640 full command of the English language

00:55:27.520 news about the Nobel Prize and I

00:55:30.040 remember opening up the bag and

00:55:31.360 seeing my own two hours after that

00:55:33.220 phone call Sam called the officer

00:55:35.000 back and apologized for not being

00:55:37.480 completely honest but then Sam said

00:55:41.120 it was a mistake and I was just tired

00:55:43.520 when I took the wrong bag at the

00:55:46.300 carousel um then it turns out that

00:55:49.360 uh defendant stated defendant left the

00:55:52.860 clothes from the bag inside the

00:55:54.560 drawers of the hotel room blah blah

00:55:56.480 blah has been charged with felony

00:55:58.320 theft can you believe

00:56:00.320 what kind of what let's start with the

00:56:06.120 fact that this person is a senior

00:56:07.920 government official yeah the government

00:56:09.400 is way too big this is this is

00:56:11.460 perfect evidence that the government

00:56:12.940 is just way way too big when you'll

00:56:15.240 Brenner and lipstick can come on and

00:56:17.100 steal somebody's luggage

00:56:19.180 from an airport and then all of a

00:56:23.440 sudden he's in charge of like

00:56:24.880 nuclear

00:56:25.380 did you just do the yule Brenner

00:56:28.400 that's what it looked like to me

00:56:30.940 well uh that notwithstanding uh look I

00:56:39.480 think I think at some level this is

00:56:41.820 part of the problem that we see

00:56:43.480 occurring time and time again with the

00:56:46.500 progressive left when identity is more

00:56:49.380 important than things like integrity or

00:56:52.180 things like actual subject matter

00:56:54.360 expertise and or or even subject verb

00:56:57.060 agreement or verb agreement yeah which is

00:57:00.300 also a challenge at times but I I think

00:57:03.620 like this particular situation is just so

00:57:07.300 bizarre that it's hard to like totally

00:57:09.900 wrap my actually to be honest but not a

00:57:11.900 trying to get over yule Brenner and

00:57:13.400 lipstick it's not a one-off listen to

00:57:15.420 this listen to this Jamie Lee Henry

00:57:18.420 was the army's celebrated as the army's

00:57:21.560 first transgender officer um and Jamie

00:57:25.460 Lee Henry was just indicted by a federal

00:57:28.080 grand jury wait for it what did Jamie Lee

00:57:30.580 this army doctor celebrated for being the

00:57:32.320 first transgender officer allegedly do

00:57:33.860 according to the grand jury oh it's just

00:57:35.920 like uh they sold secrets to the

00:57:38.760 russians maybe we should spend some more

00:57:43.040 time worrying about qualifications

00:57:45.420 performance on the job ethics basic

00:57:49.300 fundamentals before we just run to let's

00:57:51.240 celebrate the diversity of hiring this

00:57:52.760 groundbreaking candidate I think you hit

00:57:55.460 the nail on the head I mean qualifications

00:57:57.820 matter and when the government is so big

00:58:00.520 that people don't seem to care about

00:58:02.940 qualifications expertise technical

00:58:05.440 proficiency and they care more about image

00:58:07.680 then something is wrong but also if

00:58:10.000 look if you're if your goal in this

00:58:11.780 Biden administration

00:58:12.660 ostensibly is is trans rights or

00:58:15.540 non-binary rights or whatever what good

00:58:18.560 does it do to put somebody of low

00:58:20.620 character in a position of trust within

00:58:22.580 the government and then something like

00:58:23.800 this happens right I mean anything you

00:58:26.140 were trying to accomplish is immediately

00:58:27.680 completely thrown out the window

00:58:30.140 mm-hmm well there's other trans news

00:58:32.800 today that relates back I think to

00:58:34.220 another discussion we had and that

00:58:35.960 involves that trans shop teacher in

00:58:38.080 Canada remember the guy with the

00:58:41.000 enormous breasts let's say it

00:58:43.980 bazongas right bazongas big fake

00:58:46.740 prosthetic nipples teaching the children

00:58:49.140 and shop with the big violation right

00:58:52.400 you're not gonna that's right that's

00:58:54.760 right that killed me I forgot about

00:58:59.900 that okay um this this trans shop

00:59:04.080 teacher is in the news why because the

00:59:08.760 trans Canadian shop teacher decided to

00:59:11.760 go skydiving try to hold on with no in

00:59:16.640 the skydiving adventure there's oh god

00:59:20.340 well how do we know about it the bazongas

00:59:25.780 are there they went into the air this has to

00:59:29.940 be a bit you are making megan you walked us

00:59:33.400 into this bus song this is unbelievable and

00:59:36.040 michael what michael is a scientist in the

00:59:38.120 group I want to know if this affects the

00:59:39.600 terminal velocity of an individual I think

00:59:42.360 it's certainly going to increase drag there's a

00:59:45.760 lot it can be a lot of resistance well you've

00:59:48.120 seen the hindenburg uh you saw what happened to

00:59:50.220 down I mean come on the wig the wig fell off the

00:59:54.420 wig fell off in this one and I'm expecting I'm

00:59:58.140 expecting that there's a ripcord attached on

01:00:00.240 both sides and and there's some sort of airbag

01:00:02.700 situation and they hit the ground there could be an

01:00:05.940 opportunity here's the craziness the reason

01:00:09.900 we know this happened is because you know you do the

01:00:12.680 tandem I've never been skydiving but I

01:00:14.700 understand enough to know you do the tandem with a

01:00:16.500 real instructor who knows what he's doing and this

01:00:18.860 is what the the shop teacher did well turned out

01:00:21.740 that this shop teachers tandem partner was the male

01:00:25.060 porn star voodoo voodoo whose real name is alexander

01:00:29.700 boisvert and he took the shop teacher skydiving um and my

01:00:36.040 producer included the helpful note my packet do not google

01:00:39.420 this person's account my eyes my eyes

01:00:41.500 voodoo tweets out about it presumably with the consent of

01:00:49.120 the shop teacher saying um the jump was completed safety but

01:00:52.960 the wig was never found they said by the way all it took was

01:00:56.260 one bump from the cameraman and the wig went away um then

01:00:59.980 went on to say I took him skydiving and his hair came off

01:01:02.980 no problems with the huge fake breasts those stayed in place

01:01:05.800 he described himself as the conservative porn star skydiver if

01:01:09.960 you look at his twitter feed it's all about like

01:01:11.440 he's anti-covid lockdown he's like a he's like a twitter

01:01:15.400 porn guy with a heart a thoughtful porn star you don't see

01:01:19.520 that every day he is uh and said I am not a fan of

01:01:23.760 trans activism or the teacher's behavior at school but

01:01:26.680 I am a professional and I don't discriminate it and I don't

01:01:29.940 discriminate I'll throw anyone out of a plane

01:01:32.000 what a treasure yeah unbelievable I can't the pictures I get the pictures oh my god for anybody

01:01:43.640 who's listening I'm serious you've you've got to get back on the youtube

01:01:47.440 check this out it's unbelievable it is worth the journey um okay let's talk

01:01:53.480 will smith he's back in the news again today he's got a new movie out so he's got to get

01:01:58.060 out there and promote it and of course people are asking him about the slap seen and heard around

01:02:02.100 the world well this is an opportunity I was on with my pal my pal paul murray of sky news

01:02:08.360 australia talking about this uh last night um this is in my view was an opportunity for him to say

01:02:14.400 very simply and straight I screwed up I'm very sorry I've apologized to Chris I've apologized to my

01:02:21.300 fellow actors I apologize to the general public and all I can tell you is that I'm embarrassed and

01:02:26.080 I'll try to earn your forgiveness that's it that's all you got to say move on they'll forgive

01:02:31.180 you or they won't that period move right along instead because I believe he did this because

01:02:37.180 he was trying to make himself look like the big bad protective husband in this moment that's why

01:02:42.820 he did it in the first place he tried to make the moment about him when Chris Rock said something

01:02:47.300 about Jada Smith and her hair her head um he tried to make it about himself in the first place and

01:02:52.380 true to that instinct he does it again on his apology tour would you listen to this

01:02:59.240 I guess what I would say

01:03:02.340 you just never know what somebody's going through it's like I understood the idea where they say

01:03:09.580 hurt people hurt people yeah it was a lot of things it was the the the little boy that watched

01:03:14.640 his father beat up his mother you know it's you know all of that just bubbled up yeah in in in that

01:03:22.360 moment um you know I just that's not who I want to be I think that was that was one of the big

01:03:31.420 things for me over this last couple of months you know that I had to forgive myself for being human

01:03:39.560 you know and it's like trust me there's nobody that hates the fact that I'm human more than me

01:03:46.680 yeah yeah that's not it no that's that is not it you guys are in the business of devising

01:03:53.780 professional uh political candidates who screw up all the time is this is this how it sounds

01:04:00.560 hurt people hurt people you didn't know what I was going through I had childhood trauma and really my

01:04:06.240 biggest challenge over the past months has been figuring out how to forgive myself I'm working

01:04:10.820 on forgiving oh my god the narcissism back to the narcissism right yeah I I I me me me that's all he

01:04:18.380 said the only thing I heard was him referring to himself I mean it the entire thing was just about

01:04:23.780 him the narcissism in our society is just to the 11th level and you know and I would I would start

01:04:31.960 with some sympathy towards the angle he started down which is you know I don't know if it has any

01:04:38.040 authenticity or not but trying to describe events that led to that moment where you clearly lost your

01:04:44.640 mind is probably not the worst thing in the world but it doesn't stop when you're a kid right I mean

01:04:49.520 look I think Will Smith unlike almost anybody walking the planet has been famous since he was a child

01:04:54.980 right and I think all of that has surrounded his brain in a way like you said with narcissism and

01:05:01.320 everything else where he thinks that you can just kind of walk away with these things and not really

01:05:05.400 explain it whatsoever um you can't right I mean that's a show that families watch which you know

01:05:14.100 the message to to people that you can walk up and slap somebody for saying something uh is it's obviously

01:05:20.840 wrong I think an apology to people who are watching apology the message it sent all that stuff would

01:05:26.160 have been appropriate there unfortunately he was basically trying to build insulation for himself

01:05:30.780 right yeah it's all about his process and his journey to forgive himself just absolutely

01:05:35.880 incredible you know and and to talk about you know his his background and seeing you know violence and

01:05:43.540 the like what about the kids who were watching you do it like what about your own kids seeing you

01:05:48.620 do that and they think that's appropriate now because you won't apologize for it like he's not his son

01:05:53.960 tweeted out kudos to him after it happened remember his son tweeted out like that's the way it goes and

01:05:58.700 i don't remember what the tweet was but he celebrated it so i i'm sick of these hollywood

01:06:04.460 people thinking we give a damn about their childhood traumas when they behave badly just say you're

01:06:08.960 sorry and people either will forgive or they won't but i don't you know go tell it to your therapist go

01:06:15.260 sit on the damn sofa when for the guy who charges seven hundred dollars an hour and work it out with

01:06:20.880 him i don't give a shit you assaulted a guy and humiliated him who is just standing there doing his job

01:06:26.920 for what for nothing to to boost your own ego so i don't really care about your self-analysis

01:06:33.200 or how hard it's been for you to forgive yourself i just want you to be humble and on top of that

01:06:39.480 let's not forget he's back on television promoting a movie in which he's going to be paid millions of

01:06:44.200 more dollars right right like how is this apology to her actually we're supposed to feel bad for you

01:06:49.840 he reserved that reserved it for a moment and he could capital icon right and also is there no

01:06:55.180 match i didn't see the interview i all i know is what has been reported but is there no like apology

01:06:59.440 to chris rock he has feel like maybe should be addressed i don't know in the past he has apologized

01:07:06.800 to chris rock and he's been banned from attending the oscars uh will smith for the next 10 years but i mean

01:07:12.340 who cares like fine i don't care if people want to go see will smith in a movie more power to you i

01:07:16.300 like whatever that's that's up to the audience and and whatever but what i object to is this hollywood

01:07:21.880 elitist multi-millionaire like you can see the light bulb over his head like oh i'm human oh i mean i'm not

01:07:30.880 this mega god that everybody's been telling me i am for all these years because i can memorize sentences

01:07:36.740 and string them together in front of a camera no you're not you're no better than anybody else in

01:07:42.300 fact you appear to be quite worse than a lot of the people who are out there digging ditches every

01:07:47.280 day and driving buses every day and despite the fact that they've had a shit ton of childhood trauma

01:07:51.940 don't go around abusing other people that's right that's right no i think that's the main point and

01:07:57.500 look i'm a little different than most in that i like my rock stars and my movie stars i like everybody

01:08:02.400 a little screwed up right i mean i i like it my lead singer in my band i want him to have like

01:08:08.240 issues right i think that's part of the creative process i love that but i don't then want to take

01:08:14.900 their point of view on like politics or world events or how to raise kids all the things that will

01:08:20.960 smith and his sort of promotion have done over the years which is just sort of lionize this guy's

01:08:26.660 character and make him something that you know we ought to try to emulate well that's obviously not

01:08:31.980 the case here but when that's been done over the course of 20 years now you do have an have a a

01:08:37.660 apology that is necessary to everyone i that's why i like it like at the academy awards when you get

01:08:44.920 somebody like joe pesci when he won the academy award he got up there and said something like

01:08:49.260 it's my honor and then sat back down you know they're not self-aggrandizing all the time they

01:08:54.380 don't think that they're as you were saying at the russian front you know they understand what

01:08:58.300 they're doing is an art form it's artistic but it's really come on it the accolades the money

01:09:04.800 the the way we lionize them and almost make them into royal figures is ridiculous and the smart ones

01:09:11.420 get that and don't have to wrestle with the realization that they're actually humans so anyway

01:09:16.800 the whole thing is just such a turn off to me i i don't think will smith is a bad man i i love his

01:09:22.360 wife i know they've taken a lot of shit and people have issues with their marriage but i i think his wife

01:09:26.260 is great um but i just i can't stand the narcissism on on display uh yet again uh okay let's let's look

01:09:33.820 at the opposite of narcissism uh when team usa captain takes to the microphone um in connection

01:09:41.860 with the world cup okay so our team usa yay we won we beat iran um he takes to the microphones and he

01:09:49.200 gets questioned by an iranian reporter now the iranians they're mad at us for all sorts of reasons

01:09:55.760 the iranian team refused to sing their anthem and um because they're trying to stand in solidarity

01:10:01.780 with the protests that are happening in iran right now in the wake of this young girl being

01:10:05.900 allegedly beaten to death for not wearing her full face covering properly uh and the iranians say oh

01:10:13.080 no she had a heart attack sure it's a young girl um in any event so all these young iranians have

01:10:18.560 taken to the streets they've been protesting in the iranian soccer team world cup only comes along

01:10:21.820 every four years they in solidarity with these protests refused to sing the actual words to

01:10:26.740 their national anthem well then according to reports um they were taken into a back room

01:10:31.620 where the iranian national guard revolutionary guard was there and they were told you will sing

01:10:36.980 the damn anthem or your family and friends will be hurt possibly killed well guess what they sang the

01:10:44.360 anthem the next time they went out there this poor guys i felt so bad for them i mean i was glad

01:10:48.180 usa won but how do you how do you win a soccer game with that in the backdrop what a nightmare right

01:10:53.320 what a nightmare um so team usa uh they had they had tweeted out something that had the iranian flag

01:11:01.860 in it but they took off the emblem they took off the emblem in an effort to show solidarity with the

01:11:06.640 team and um that caused all sorts of the iranians claimed we should be kicked out of the games and so on

01:11:12.780 so this this is the background leading up to this moment where our team usa captain uh and i think

01:11:18.520 the coach was also there take questions from the reporters including an iranian reporter

01:11:23.320 and listen to how this exchange went you say you support the iranian people but you're pronouncing

01:11:30.820 our country's name wrong our country is named iran not iran please once and for all let's get this

01:11:37.780 clear second of all um are you okay to be representing a country that has so much discrimination

01:11:44.200 against black people in its own borders and we saw the black lives matter movements uh over the past

01:11:51.320 few years my apologies on uh the mispronunciation of your country um yeah that being said you know

01:11:58.920 there's discrimination uh everywhere you go um you know one thing that i've learned especially from

01:12:04.860 living abroad in the past years and uh having to fit in in different cultures and kind of assimilate

01:12:10.040 into different cultures um is that in the u.s we're continuing to make progress uh every single day

01:12:16.260 you know growing up for me i was i i grew up in a in a white family with an obviously an african-american

01:12:21.360 heritage and background as well so um i had a little bit of uh different cultures and i was a very

01:12:26.920 very easily able to assimilate in different different cultures so um you know not everyone has that

01:12:32.060 that ease and uh the ability to do that and obviously it takes longer to understand and

01:12:36.280 through education i think it's it's super important like you just educated me now on the

01:12:40.280 pronunciation of of your country so um yeah it's a it's a process i think as long as you see progress

01:12:45.960 uh that's the most important thing how about that from tyler adams just a clinic okay put on a clinic

01:12:53.440 on how to answer a question well and hats off for him taking the question as is right i mean i think i

01:12:59.160 would have been tempted in his shoes to be like seriously pal remarkable remarkable restraint right

01:13:03.780 remarkable like where are you from again and maturity yeah you're stoning women in the streets

01:13:08.640 right and you're coming at me i mean i i listen i've we had a lot to say on twitter yesterday

01:13:14.260 yeah don't get in particular about that matchup but but tyler adams can't say enough nice things

01:13:19.780 about him no you know one thing i would also point out for the liberal journalists very concerned about

01:13:25.460 elon musk's twitter i would remind them that the supreme leader of iran still has an active twitter

01:13:31.340 account that's you know that's right so when we're worried about the user safety because

01:13:36.800 you know donald trump's back on the platform just just a reminder that that guy who likes to stone

01:13:42.360 women in the streets uh is still allowed access to his twitter account and was there the entire

01:13:46.900 time you were there without you objecting to it at all right and the reason the reason he's

01:13:51.360 never misgendered anybody is because you get killed over there if you're gay okay so or or never mind

01:13:56.640 trans um here's the other thing that reporter also asked the coach get this why he has not asked the

01:14:03.960 u.s government to remove a naval warship stationed in the gulf the coach said i'm a soccer coach

01:14:09.360 yeah good point let's move on right yes um man this is a burger king what is it how does it go

01:14:19.920 this is the wendy's yeah right this is a wendy's prevailed yes i know it's exciting i'm i'm looking

01:14:32.020 forward to watching it i'm a little sad the next match is against the dutch because i just went there

01:14:36.200 and i was happy to root for the orange but i'm team usa all the way so go america um okay before

01:14:41.380 we go let's talk the midterms i had you guys on not long before the midterms the predictions all

01:14:50.280 three of you predicted 51 gop in the senate not not terrible i mean i don't think many people were

01:14:56.180 predicting 49 gop in the senate if you know depending on how things go but in any event uh it

01:15:02.080 went a different way smug said 52 so he was most wrong sorry smug um but i did want to ask you

01:15:08.440 because you did seem much more bullish uh prior to the election than the results turned out i i was the

01:15:15.100 same you guys are smart though when it comes to politics and know what you're talking about so

01:15:19.700 what happened well i think a couple of things happened i mean historically over the last 200 years

01:15:26.000 in midterm elections they're a reflection on the the party in power and only twice in history has a

01:15:32.840 a majority picked up seats with the president in power uh during a midterm and so what generally

01:15:40.460 happens is your late breaking late deciding voters the you know the classic swing voter independents

01:15:47.620 tend to take a look at the environment and tend to make decisions on things like the economy

01:15:53.060 and we know going into that election that the economy was in a very very bad place with the

01:15:58.200 electorate in fact i think it was like 65 in in the exit polls said the inflation is basically what

01:16:04.760 drove them to the polls in the first place right and so you look at the backdrop of all that you

01:16:09.800 would think all right at a minimum you're going to get three points on that and that's how i did my

01:16:14.780 math that's how i got to 51 is that you get you know at a maximum five percent uh of your final

01:16:21.100 late deciding voters that break traditionally all one way and they generally break with the

01:16:27.180 political environment against the party in power and that didn't happen here and there's a number

01:16:31.700 of reasons for it um i think look my personal analysis is that republicans have a brand problem

01:16:38.760 that we're going to have to work on over time now fortunately there's a presidential election

01:16:42.980 a presidential primary that allows republicans to start that process right away and you will see

01:16:49.320 going into 2024 regardless of who the nominee is a different brand than the one that we ran on in

01:16:54.500 2022 where the the mission sold the statements sold people bought that crime was a big problem they

01:17:02.860 bought that open borders were not something we wanted and they certainly bought that the biden

01:17:06.880 administration was headed down the wrong track with the economy and they still couldn't support

01:17:11.340 a republican candidate in many of these states i would contrast that with like florida in texas

01:17:18.680 or you have a very different republican brand that is cultivated over many years in the case of

01:17:23.740 florida by a governor that has a really well-established identity of his own in those states you saw the

01:17:32.040 message not only sell but there were winning counties that democrats had won since reconstruction

01:17:37.700 right so this is this is a brand issue that we just kind of have to work through here

01:17:43.540 when you say brand issue do you mean trump or more than that yeah i think it's a big contributor

01:17:48.600 to it to be completely honest with you yeah i think he would even recognize that maybe he would

01:17:53.560 never say it publicly but tacitly he does because when he did his announcement uh megan um after the

01:18:00.620 election you'd notice one of the topics that didn't come up really at all was how 2020 was unfair

01:18:06.660 to him and rigged against him now he endorsed a ton and ton of candidates and made them walk the

01:18:11.380 plank on the issue and i think that impacted our ability to win some of these late breaking swing

01:18:15.860 voters and independent voters because at the end of the day they were like all right i just want

01:18:19.320 somebody competent you know like we've spent the last two and a half years coming out of covid

01:18:22.920 and like the economies and shambles i just want to like a steady hand on the wheel and instead i think

01:18:28.440 he like walked a lot of these candidates through box canyon it was still scary on on issue on issues that the

01:18:34.880 left was like i don't that seems kind of crazy like why are we still talking about you know the

01:18:39.800 previous election and i think that undercut us with those voters and i think that's what holmes is

01:18:43.900 talking about when he's talking about a brand problem well to your point about his own self-awareness i

01:18:48.420 mean he also has not announced a big rally in georgia where republicans and democrats are facing off in

01:18:54.380 this runoff election and in in some of the races before november 8th trump held big rallies well he's not

01:19:01.940 doing it in georgia right now and i think one of the reasons is because he doesn't want to get stung

01:19:07.420 yeah and look it's not all it's not all trump right i mean there's there are candidates campaigns that

01:19:13.120 didn't do a great job there's the issue of dobbs as you just mentioned with abortion which i think

01:19:17.540 had a profound effect on on predominantly younger voters um and then there are some states where their

01:19:23.460 actual election infrastructure which is in no way alleging any impropriety whatsoever but

01:19:29.260 you know nevada the state that we were involved in in 2020 they changed all the election rules on a

01:19:34.220 on a partisan basis which enabled things like ballot harvesting right and if you look at adam laxalt in

01:19:40.060 that race he won early votes mail and election day voters by three and a half points he was up 28 000

01:19:47.020 votes when they started counting uh the the election day drop boxes and those were uh as as admitted to by

01:19:54.840 the culinary union out in las vegas that was their goal is to try to fill election day drop boxes with

01:20:01.680 with as many mail ballots as they possibly could it turns out they did they won 67 percent of the of

01:20:08.900 those drop boxes that came in that was done because of that left election infrastructure that was put in

01:20:14.540 place that heavily advantaged democrats well because a democrat will let a ballot harvester take their ballot

01:20:20.260 and put it in a drop box for them and back to the trump issue you know he just destroyed our ability

01:20:28.480 uh to do that with republican voters you know like like hardcore i vote in every election republicans will

01:20:36.340 tell you i'm gonna vote on election day in person and i mean that's fine but it puts you at a structural

01:20:41.820 disadvantage when they're banking votes for you know three months and republicans are relying on like

01:20:48.960 not having snow and rain on election day well yeah i mean yeah one other aspect to the disappointment

01:20:54.040 i think is that expectations were set a little higher than um than they should have been if you

01:20:58.580 looked at the districts specifically talking about the house if you look at the districts where

01:21:02.140 republicans had to do very well in order to take the kind of majorities that um you heard people talk

01:21:07.140 about in the run-up to the election these are districts that joe biden won by plus seven plus eight plus

01:21:11.920 ten points so that's a very different kind of campaign a very different kind of candidate that you have to run

01:21:18.320 in a district to be able to seize that sort of uh portion of the middle or even people who were

01:21:24.780 voting for joe biden in previous elections i just i think these voters just want competence right and

01:21:29.780 you even in some of those biden plus nine plus ten plus eleven districts you saw republicans win

01:21:34.720 particularly look at places like california right or like look at the oregon five seat that we flipped

01:21:40.040 um it we just have to be i think more more careful in candidate selection um of what these people's

01:21:48.260 message you know is going to be it's important to have somebody who fits the district right or who

01:21:52.440 fits this and you can't scare the shit out of people you know i mean i look at at that race what

01:21:56.960 was it in washington state the joe kent yeah uh r r plus 13 r plus 13 district and people frankly

01:22:03.720 afraid of the guy they didn't know what what he was going to do and we lost that i mean that's the

01:22:08.400 difference between we actually competed pretty well in biden plus three plus five districts but

01:22:14.220 if you start losing republican held districts your day's not going to be that great and it was a real

01:22:19.140 mixed bag out there and we didn't get the historical shift of late breaking uh undecided voters towards

01:22:26.220 the republican side and i want to see more analysis on the abortion issue because i mean if you looked at

01:22:30.600 the polls like we looked at polls all the time it's like the voters who put that up in their issue

01:22:36.260 matrix saying like this is the reason i'm going to vote very low propensity to actually vote for

01:22:40.300 republicans in the first place so that was sort of baked into the polling and it showed us you know

01:22:44.700 winning a lot of these races in particular a lot of the closed senate races and i wonder if there's

01:22:49.400 sort of a non-response bias in polling there where people may care about an issue like abortion because

01:22:55.480 it is a personal issue but not necessarily say that to a pollster and how is that going to impact the

01:23:00.260 way that we view the issue moving forward an issue interesting great great analysis you guys so good

01:23:05.560 to talk to you i i'm sure you're feeling good about the fact that the republicans won the house which

01:23:10.520 is not nothing and uh we're seeing that start to unfold right now i'm sure the biden administration

01:23:15.060 is super conscious of it as well such a pleasure talking to you out there next year we yes not just

01:23:20.680 in politics but in your future careers as online safety experts so thank you for offering us that

01:23:26.140 expertise and for being with us guys all the best to you and to smug thanks megan thank you

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01:23:44.620 sarah writes in did you decide to cut out seed oils the hateful eight because i said on june 12th i was

01:23:50.780 going to remember i did a year without french fries and by the way that's still rolling and i said this year

01:23:55.000 i was going to do hateful eight sarah writes i was on board for about two minutes until i realized

01:23:59.260 what it meant then i decided i just didn't care that much okay sarah word you're 100 right it was

01:24:07.700 too hard i failed i'm not gonna lie i wasn't able to do it and i've spent the past six months like

01:24:12.280 what else could i cut out because i like this thing this game of like cutting something else is a

01:24:16.040 personal challenge and i'm leaning toward granola like i i need to go to my weaknesses that's the ones

01:24:22.120 that are like problems for me and granola is a weakness for me i i don't do well when it's

01:24:26.240 around i kind of can't stop myself there's a brand called kelly's no relation i'm i like it's my

01:24:33.180 kryptonite like i i it weakens me i i have no resolve in any event um yeah it didn't happen then

01:24:39.280 she asks also do we ever get to see abby abby can we show abby can you come over here she doesn't want

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The Megyn Kelly Show - November 30, 2022

Media Panics Over Elon Musk and Free Speech, and Will Smith Forgives Himself, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts ｜ Ep. 444

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