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00:00:30.960 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.620 Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.740 We have got news breaking all over the globe today, including in New York City,

00:00:50.280 where far left socialist millennial rapper Zoran Mamdani is the projected winner of the Democrat

00:00:57.920 party primary. And it wasn't even close, making him the favorite to be the next leader of the

00:01:05.160 nation's largest city. Pray for New York. Plus, President Trump is in the Netherlands where he

00:01:11.980 and his administration are pushing back hard on these intel leaks about the bombing of Iran's

00:01:16.900 nuclear sites. What are we to believe? Charlie Kirk will be here momentarily to react to it all.

00:01:22.660 But we begin this morning with news on the big, beautiful bill. It's crunch time, guys.

00:01:28.700 They've been debating this for months now, and it's do or die for this thing and Republicans'

00:01:34.120 goal to pass it before the 4th of July. Here now to explain where things stand,

00:01:38.680 whether this thing is likely to go forward. Remember, Mark Halperin said it must be passed

00:01:43.720 or Trump's agenda is done. And this is the man who can tell us what's going to happen.

00:01:50.260 That's Speaker of the House Mike Johnson making his first appearance here on the Megyn Kelly Show.

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00:03:08.680 Welcome, Mr. Speaker. Great to have you.

00:03:12.200 Hey, Megan. Great to be with you. I'm a big longtime fan and I enjoyed being interviewed

00:03:16.180 on the TV show many years ago. So glad to be back. It's fantastic.

00:03:19.220 Oh, I appreciate it. Likewise, you've been doing a great job and it's been fun to watch

00:03:23.300 you in the new position. One of the few men in America who could actually bring together these

00:03:27.200 various factions within the Republican Party and not get ousted within 10 days of becoming

00:03:31.720 speaker. So hats off to you, sir. Okay. So this is it. I mean, I think Mark Capron's right. Like

00:03:37.780 Trump, he needs this to go through, but the Republican Party is still infighting. One of

00:03:43.240 the big sticking points we're told is cuts to Medicaid, a rollback of some of the those who

00:03:48.820 would be covered by Medicaid. The Democrats ready to make hay out of that saying the evil Republicans

00:03:54.960 gave tax breaks to the rich, even though you're giving tax breaks in this bill to everyone. But

00:03:59.640 they'll point out the rich at at the expense of poor people's health care. And to this, you say

00:04:06.300 what? Those are tired, old talking points and they don't work because it does not comport with the facts

00:04:11.820 here. This bill, the one big, beautiful bill is all of the Trump agenda, all the America first agenda

00:04:16.900 wrapped into one big piece of legislation. So it is aptly named as the president named it. And we are

00:04:21.720 going to deliver this product for the American people. It fulfills all of our campaign promises and

00:04:25.740 all the things the president said on the campaign trail last year. This is the way to get

00:04:29.560 it done. Real quickly, Meg, and everybody needs to understand why we're using the budget

00:04:33.120 reconciliation process. People get caught up in the all that the funny terms we use on Capitol Hill.

00:04:38.420 But this is the only mechanism we have to avoid the 60 vote threshold in the Senate. Most substantive

00:04:44.400 legislation, as you know, has to be able to defeat a filibuster and gather, in this case,

00:04:49.440 seven Democrats to join in. They have no interest in the America first Trump agenda, obviously.

00:04:53.900 So we're using the budget reconciliation process, reconciling the budget in order to squeeze all

00:04:59.160 these big initiatives in. So it's everything. It's historic spending cuts, historic tax cuts,

00:05:04.200 border security, the largest investment in a generation. We're going to restore American energy

00:05:08.660 dominance. And we're going to save these critical programs like Medicaid for the people who desperately

00:05:14.400 need and deserve it. It has been expanded beyond belief. There's fraud. Explain what happened to

00:05:18.820 Medicaid, because it's very nice to say, well, well, we want to cover poor people that don't be so nasty

00:05:23.380 and mean. We do cover poor people in this country. They actually do have health care coverage. But

00:05:27.720 the system has been exploited and taken advantage of. And it seems to me that's what you guys are trying

00:05:33.020 to get at here. A hundred percent. What we are doing is restoring common sense to the programs in order

00:05:38.400 to preserve them, because Medicaid is intended to be a temporary safety net for people who desperately

00:05:43.660 need it. You're talking about the elderly, disabled, you know, young, single, pregnant moms who are

00:05:48.540 down on their luck. Right. But it's not being used for those purposes because it's been expanded under

00:05:53.960 the last two Democrat presidents and to cover everybody. So you've got a bunch of able-bodied

00:05:59.780 young men, for example, who are on Medicaid and not working. So what we're doing is restoring work

00:06:05.500 requirements to Medicaid. OK, this is common sense. It's about an 85 percent approval rating in public

00:06:11.080 polling because it makes sense. If you are on the public wagon, you need to help pull it. And Megan,

00:06:17.060 all we've done in the bill is add 20 hours a week. OK, a requirement to work for 20 hours a week

00:06:23.060 or be in a job training program, looking for a job or volunteer in your community. I mean,

00:06:27.980 that's good for the individual. It's good for the community that they live in. We find dignity in

00:06:31.800 our work. And I can go in any town hall in any district in America and explain what we're doing

00:06:35.740 in every single person at the end of the day, unless they're a crazed socialist, radical leftist like

00:06:41.540 the guy who just got the Democrat nomination for mayor in New York. Everybody nods their head and goes,

00:06:46.100 well, yes, of course we should do that. So that's what we're doing. And by doing that,

00:06:49.500 you eliminate fraud, waste and abuse of the programs and you preserve it. You sustain it

00:06:53.840 for the people who desperately need it. OK, so here's what's happening, though,

00:06:58.400 notwithstanding. And there's a lot to like about this bill, the permanent tax cuts for everybody.

00:07:02.060 People should know that the Trump tax cuts went up and down the board. They helped poor people

00:07:05.620 all the way through to rich people who are the job creators. So we shouldn't be against

00:07:09.740 tax cuts for the rich because those are your bosses and we want them hiring more people.

00:07:14.380 Um, however, the polls show and this matters while Republicans are ready to get behind this

00:07:21.680 Republican voters, Democrats hate it. And more importantly, independents hate it. The numbers

00:07:28.080 are not good and they need to be good because you guys are going to lose control of the house

00:07:32.380 if the independents turn on you. OK, so here's the latest Fox News poll. Um, overall 38% favor this

00:07:39.940 thing. 59% oppose it. If you break that down by party, Republicans, um, only 23% oppose 89% of

00:07:49.260 Dems oppose. Not, not a surprise. 73% of independents oppose same basic numbers from

00:07:56.380 Quinnipiac and others. Uh, here's Harry Enten, CNN's data guy laying out sort of the stakes and

00:08:02.580 how it looks in the polling set one. The amount of disapproval for this bill. Holy cow, my goodness

00:08:08.440 gracious. And you know, you mentioned the KFF poll. We're talking about 29 points underwater on

00:08:13.480 the net favorable rating, but that matches the Quinnipiac university poll from last week when

00:08:17.980 it was 26 points underwater. Oh my God, you need Greg Louganis to get that far underwater. And I mean,

00:08:24.320 we're talking about a negative 41 net favorability rating among independents in the center of the

00:08:29.360 electorate. You rarely ever see pieces of legislation or proposed pieces of legislation

00:08:34.120 as unpopular as this, but here you see it in two polls. There is a large chunk of the Republican

00:08:39.980 Party that is not in favor of this bill. So this is the GOP with an unfavorable view of this bill.

00:08:45.520 And what we see here is look at this 23% are opposed, have an unfavorable rating of the big,

00:08:53.000 beautiful bill. So if this is the big, beautiful bill, it may be a big, beautiful bill for Democrats

00:08:57.340 if it passes because they'll have a big, beautiful night, come midterm night of 2026.

00:09:02.860 What do you make of that sentiment, Mr. Speaker?

00:09:05.160 You can dismiss every single bit of that. Why? Because the reason it's unpopular, people don't

00:09:10.780 dislike the bill. They dislike what they've been told about the bill by the Democrats and mainstream

00:09:15.220 media. The beauty of doing this so early, Megan, and the difference between what we did in the first

00:09:19.880 Trump administration in 2017, I was a freshman in Congress at that time, is we waited until the end of

00:09:24.640 that first year of his term to get the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act done. That thing was rocket fuel for

00:09:30.220 U.S. economy. We brought about the greatest economy in the history of the world with our tax cuts and

00:09:34.380 regulatory reform. The problem is we did it too late in the cycle. And so people didn't feel those

00:09:39.860 positive effects before we got to the midterm. We lost the majority in that case. We're not doing

00:09:44.600 that this time. The reason we put this on such an aggressive timetable is because we knew the

00:09:48.840 Democrats were going to go out and lie about it. Of course, they have no policy, no platform to run on

00:09:53.120 themselves. All they can do is pan our work and they do it with the help of the mainstream media.

00:09:57.560 So we're doing this early enough, Megan. Here's the key. We get this thing signed by Independence

00:10:01.400 Day, which is our goal. Everybody will feel the effects of this bill, the positive effects of

00:10:06.160 this bill before they go vote in the midterms. We are going to win the midterms and grow the majority

00:10:10.920 because people are going to feel the effects. As I mentioned, in that first Trump administration,

00:10:15.140 we had the greatest economy in the history of the world. Job participation rate was an all-time high.

00:10:19.100 Poverty at an all-time low. Wages rising for every demographic in America. We're going to do that

00:10:23.820 again, but this time on steroids because this is a larger bill with more of those pro-growth policies

00:10:29.980 and everyone will feel it. We're excited. The proof will be in the pudding. We can't wait to put it

00:10:33.880 out there. If the economy is humming in the way it was under Trump 1.0, people will not believe the

00:10:40.380 lies that are being told about this legislation, like all the people who are going to die, according to

00:10:44.580 Hakeem Jeffries. On the Medicaid cuts, though, one thing that did catch my eye for Republican voters

00:10:50.420 is the non-profit health consumer advocacy organization Families USA says that the Medicaid

00:10:55.620 cuts could lead to more hospital closures, especially in rural areas. And this was an issue, as you know,

00:11:02.320 Republicans in the Senate have raised this for a long time, too. Like, they're worried. Republicans

00:11:06.540 in general have been a little worried about medical facilities in rural states, like we've got

00:11:11.600 property in Montana, places like that where it's tough to get medical care. And they are estimating

00:11:18.160 that as a result of these Medicaid cuts, 55 additional independent rural hospitals across

00:11:22.380 26 states could experience negative net incomes, leaving a total of 380 independent rural hospitals

00:11:29.340 nationwide at serious risk of closure. That's the kind of thing that could come back to bite you

00:11:33.720 in the next couple of years before the midterms. What do you make of this problem?

00:11:37.380 We're handling that. Look, I've got a rural district in Louisiana, have a couple of large

00:11:42.680 areas and a lot of rural areas. So the rural hospitals are an essential lifeline to people

00:11:46.840 all across this country. We're going to protect those rural hospitals. There were some proposals

00:11:51.360 on the table to change the funding formulas, basically, under Medicaid, not to get too deep

00:11:55.380 in the weeds. But I don't think that's going to be part of the final bill. A lot of that discussion

00:11:59.620 had been held in the Senate. We did not insert that in the House product that we sent over

00:12:03.800 because we wanted to ensure no cuts to Medicaid. Remember, President Trump said that over and

00:12:09.100 over and over, and we did as well. So what's going to happen here is that if they implement

00:12:13.980 any of that, if any of the formula changes make their way into the final bill, which I don't think

00:12:19.580 they will, there will be a supplemental piece of the legislation in the reconciliation bill itself

00:12:25.680 that provides an additional account to prop up the rural hospitals. Putting this in layman's

00:12:30.740 terms, that's what will happen. There will be no negative effect. We're going to protect it.

00:12:35.140 Okay. There's a Fox News article today pointing out that there still are major differences between

00:12:42.240 the House and the Senate. And I'm speaking here of Republicans who control both bodies for now.

00:12:47.640 That the Senate seems to be doing some stuff that's just not going to fly in the House and that you

00:12:54.200 need agreement on it, including the Senate's decision to defer the expiration of some of these

00:13:00.680 green energy tax credits that Biden's inflation reduction act gave them. So Republicans in the

00:13:10.140 Senate want to keep some of those in place because depending on what state they're from,

00:13:14.960 they may like them. And this seems to be a hard no for the House. So how's that going to get

00:13:21.240 reconciled? We'll resolve it like we do everything else. We really have had a one team approach on this.

00:13:26.720 I mean, we have small margins, historically small margins in the House and the Senate. We can only

00:13:31.300 spare three votes in each chamber. And so Leader Thune and I have been, you know, joined at the hip

00:13:36.760 on this thing. And we've been navigating this through the House for over 14 months. Megan, we began this

00:13:41.640 process in March of last year, knowing and believing that we would have unified government. We would have

00:13:47.640 this historic moment where we had the White House and the Senate and the House, and we knew we wanted to

00:13:52.020 use the reconciliation process to deliver the agenda. So a lot of thought and deliberation has gone into

00:13:56.580 this. We're in the final hours of that negotiation. And you'll hear lots of rumor and consternation.

00:14:02.580 And of course, the media and the Democrats are trying to divide Republicans, chamber versus chamber

00:14:06.560 and Republican versus Republican in each chamber. We're not having any of that. So look, there's a lot

00:14:11.680 of thoughtful ideas on the table. We have broad conferences. They're very diverse, very different

00:14:16.520 districts represented here and lots of different opinions. But at the end of the day, I think we're going to

00:14:20.340 come up with a conclusion that checks all the boxes. Look, on the IRA, the big Green New Deal

00:14:25.060 subsidies and credits and all that, there's an appetite amongst all Republicans generally to

00:14:29.760 get rid of all of that. But to your point, there are some states and some districts where there's a

00:14:34.820 lot of jobs being provided initially, for example, for wind and solar, right? So they have less of an

00:14:41.200 appetite. They would like to get rid of it on a slower pace. But I think we'll find the right

00:14:46.120 equilibrium. I can tell you where President Trump is, where I am. I mean, he has no appetite for it at

00:14:49.980 all. He wants to wipe it out entirely. We're going to get as close to that goal as possible.

00:14:54.860 Wind is a joke. We've got to get rid of this ridiculous reliance on wind energy. Trump's

00:14:59.160 been doing a great job in rolling back those permits and leasing. It's just, it ruins the

00:15:04.400 environment. It ruins the landscape. It kills a bunch of animals that ought to be protected.

00:15:08.760 It's killing whales. It's a nightmare. Okay, so, okay, let me move on. And I'll just add you

00:15:15.180 procedurally about the bill. And then I want to move on to Iran and some other issues. But

00:15:18.220 is it going to pass? Are you guys going to stay now through the weekend? Because Trump is saying

00:15:22.440 don't go home. Like, no, no summer recess. You guys stick there. This is my presidency. Get it

00:15:28.080 done. Is that happening? Yes. The president and I talk about this multiple times every day. And he

00:15:33.400 wants to get it done. We set an aggressive timetable for the reasons we've discussed. And

00:15:37.100 we're going to get it done. He wants to have a signing ceremony on Independence Day. I mean,

00:15:41.140 it would be epic. It'd be awesome. This would be the most consequential legislation that Congress

00:15:44.560 has passed in generations. Truly, it's going to revolutionize everything that we care about and

00:15:49.300 deliver on the agenda. So he wants to get it done. I will hold the members to account on that. And if

00:15:54.340 the Senate does their job, as expected by this weekend, we'll stay through and get this thing

00:15:59.180 done. So as quickly as possible under the procedure, I have to let the bill procedurally,

00:16:03.660 I have to let the bill lay over for 72 hours once it's delivered to us, obviously, so everyone can

00:16:08.280 read it and go through it. And then we'll pass this thing. We're going to get it done,

00:16:12.340 Megan, for the people. And it's going to be a great day for everyone. And by the way,

00:16:15.640 I just want to leave on this point before we leave the subject. This bill is written for and

00:16:20.080 geared to lower and middle income families. It is the opposite of what the Democrats are saying.

00:16:25.780 In fact, people who make more than a million dollars are going to benefit the least from

00:16:29.520 the tax policies here. It's geared for hardworking Americans. We're the party of hardworking Americans.

00:16:34.640 And we will demonstrate that and what we do in our legislation.

00:16:37.980 So your prediction is President Trump will sign this thing on July 4th of this year.

00:16:42.340 That's my prediction and my prayer. We'll get it done as quickly as possible.

00:16:46.720 Okay, let's talk about Iran, because we've seen now in the past 24 hours leaks out of the Pentagon

00:16:53.020 of what's been dubbed preliminary assessments on the intel of what our bombs did at these Iranian

00:17:01.560 facilities, in particular Fordow, the one that we were most targeting. And they are suggesting that

00:17:07.900 while certain entrance ways to the facility were damaged, that the program was not annihilated or

00:17:14.500 obliterated and that the Iranians could restart it within one to two months. The president's angry

00:17:20.460 about this. So is Secretary Hegseth about these leaks saying there's going to be a leak investigation.

00:17:24.880 First of all, whoever leaked it went to Natasha Bertrand, who's been the same person saying the

00:17:31.820 Hunter Biden laptop was disinformation and Russiagate, Russiagate, Russiagate. But

00:17:36.160 the Pentagon's admitting that there is a document that says top secret that did have some sort of an

00:17:44.560 assessment that looks like this in it. They're pointing out it was preliminary and they had low

00:17:48.880 confidence in it. And the media is now running with this as though it's a final pronouncement on

00:17:52.940 a failed operation by the bomber. So what is the truth and what do you make of the controversy?

00:17:58.540 Um, look, we've seen this movie. You can dismiss all of that. This is the low level leakers who

00:18:04.220 are always trying to undermine the Trump administration and undermine him and his

00:18:07.620 achievements. And that's what this is. This is early assessments. They're unreliable. We're

00:18:13.100 basically looking at satellite images. We obviously don't have people on the ground in these tunnels

00:18:18.260 checking out what's happened, but we dropped the largest bombs ever known to man, uh, short of a

00:18:23.300 nuclear bomb, uh, on this, on this, uh, this spot and dropped it, you know, in the, the, a small area,

00:18:29.480 the size of a air conditioner unit. Um, it obviously did dramatic damage. It will set the program back

00:18:35.680 and you don't have to take our word for it. Take an independent, uh, national agency, the AI EA,

00:18:41.980 whatever. Yeah, right. I A E A. I got so many acronyms here, but they said, of course it said

00:18:48.600 it back. This is obvious. Now we'll get more detailed, uh, intelligence, but I have had the

00:18:53.160 classified briefings, Megan, and I'll just tell you short of revealing any of that. We have high

00:18:57.660 confidence that we did serious damage and we set them back. The best was the best, uh, evidence to

00:19:02.600 that is Iran suddenly coming to the table and wanting to negotiate a peace deal. Okay. They would not

00:19:08.580 be doing that if we had not shoveled them, right? We took out all of their top echelon of military,

00:19:13.800 uh, officers and personnel. We took out all their nuclear scientists, the ones who were at the,

00:19:18.780 you know, the pinpoint, uh, trying to deliver these, these, uh, dangerous weapons. And remember

00:19:23.200 that same international agency and our intelligence, uh, uh, community determined that they were within

00:19:30.100 days of being able to produce a nuclear weapon. They had enough 60% enriched uranium to develop nine

00:19:37.860 nuclear weapons within weeks or at least one within two to three days. That's what the international

00:19:42.500 agency said. There was, so it's an imminent danger. The president act clearly within his

00:19:47.460 constitutional authority and he did the right decisive thing for the people. That's why we

00:19:51.640 elected Donald J. Trump. He's the leader to get it done. And he did. Why would someone within the

00:19:56.460 Pentagon be leaking that preliminary low, uh, confidence report to CNN? Because, you know,

00:20:04.700 it's the swamp, right? It's the deep state and it affects every agency, sadly, even the Pentagon.

00:20:09.460 Now I'll say on the other side of that coin, they kept this mission so secret that there were no

00:20:14.420 leaks prior to the bombing. And that was a great blessing. I mean, that's a, a, a, a nod to our

00:20:19.980 secretary of state, our secretary of defense. I mean, uh, all the whole team, the cabinet did an

00:20:23.840 extraordinary job and they kept that quiet. But now you have these people who are career bureaucrats,

00:20:29.000 even in the Pentagon, who are really, frankly, a threat to the state because they're leaking

00:20:34.480 information that is damaging to the administration. But it's, it's false. I don't buy that. This is an

00:20:39.920 early assessment. It will be further developed. And I'm telling you, we did enough damage to bring

00:20:44.280 Iran hobbling on their knees, begging for a peace agreement. That, that was unforeseeable even a few

00:20:50.280 weeks ago. So the job was done, uh, mission accomplished. And by the way, hats off to the B-2 pilots

00:20:55.860 and everyone involved in our unparalleled military who did the job that the only, we're the only

00:21:00.920 country in the world that could have done that because of their bravery and their sacrifice.

00:21:04.340 Are we on any sort of a slippery slope now that we've effectively admitted we will act militarily

00:21:10.740 to stop Iran from getting a nuke if they do start to rebuild right away within the next, say it doesn't

00:21:17.760 have to be one to two months, could be the next 12 months. I mean, are we now on a course of like,

00:21:22.060 we're just going to have to keep sending our bombers over there because we've admitted

00:21:24.960 that that's necessary? I don't think so. I genuinely believe that this is going to solve

00:21:30.740 the problem, at least for the foreseeable future. And as long as Donald J. Trump is in the White

00:21:34.840 House, why? Because he has sent a message. You see our allies at the NATO summit. I mean,

00:21:39.660 it's like, it's like the Lion King, right? Donald Trump walks in and they all sort of bow again,

00:21:44.260 America's back. And let me tell you something, a strong America is good for everyone around the

00:21:49.260 world and they all know it. And that is peace through strength. That is a policy that we have

00:21:53.260 always believed in. And it's a core principle of the Republican Party. Donald J. Trump knows how to

00:21:57.980 use it. They have to believe that you are capable. And we are. We have the most capable military in

00:22:03.040 the world, the most capable military in the history of mankind. We don't want to use it. President

00:22:07.560 Trump wants to be a peacetime president. He believes that. He doesn't want us to be involved in

00:22:12.160 nation building and interventionalism and, you know, having wars around the globe. He wants to stop

00:22:18.480 them. And every now and then you have to show that that force is real. We did that. Everybody's on

00:22:24.000 notice and the terrorists and tyrants around the globe are terrified. That's the position we need

00:22:28.220 them to be in. You mentioned that the president had the authorization, all authorization he needed

00:22:33.300 to conduct those strikes last Saturday. Not everybody agrees. As you know, even within the

00:22:38.880 Republican caucus, Thomas Massey has suggested otherwise. Of course, AOC and others on the left are saying

00:22:44.320 it's an impeachable offense. What about the War Powers Act? What about authorization and Congress's

00:22:52.200 role in being the ones that are supposed to declare war? Listen, I'm a constitutional law attorney. You're

00:22:58.500 an attorney. You and I have studied these things. I think we agree on it, Megan. I'm not sure the War

00:23:02.420 Powers Act is even constitutional. Okay. It was enacted by Congress in 1973. The idea is that the

00:23:09.080 commander in chief is supposed to inform Congress within 48 hours of a military action. And of

00:23:14.820 course, that's kind of a moot point now. In the age of 24-hour news cycles and social media, everybody

00:23:19.900 knows instantaneously what's happening. So it's almost moot. But then he can only act for 60 days

00:23:25.200 until Congress either authorizes the action or declares war. Now, remember, we haven't declared war in

00:23:30.740 Congress since World War II. There's been over 125 military operations by presidents of both parties in that

00:23:36.760 intervening period. By the way, all these Democrats who are howling right now never said a word when

00:23:41.780 Barack Obama used the authority of Bill Clinton or Joe Biden and they dropped bombs in the Middle East.

00:23:47.020 No one said a word. Suddenly, Donald Trump does it. It's a gross constitutional violation. It's

00:23:51.840 nonsense. If you go back to the original intent of the framers and read the Federalist papers,

00:23:56.840 Federalist 70, you know, Alexander Hamilton, they spoke very clearly about the necessity of having a

00:24:02.180 commander in chief that had the authority to act when there's imminent danger to the American people

00:24:07.160 or our interests or our personnel. And President Trump used that authority, as have other presidents,

00:24:13.340 and it's appropriate. This is exactly, I think, what the framers would have had in mind. Could

00:24:17.240 they have envisioned a scenario like this? They would have wanted the commander in chief to be able

00:24:21.220 to act unilaterally because if you waited on Congress to authorize it, we would dither over this

00:24:26.360 for weeks or months. Iran would have a nuclear warhead by the time Congress acted, and I'm not sure we

00:24:31.100 could deliver the votes. Well, and they certainly would have had all the nuclear facilities emptied

00:24:35.720 out, you know, the ones that we knew about. They would have gotten all of the uranium removed from

00:24:39.940 those facilities if we had to wait for a congressional debate. Nonetheless, forgive me for bringing her up,

00:24:44.060 but you've got comments like this from Democrat Jasmine Crockett. Here it is.

00:24:49.960 And to understand enough about the Constitution to the extent that I'm the one that's supposed to

00:24:54.780 make the fucking decision or at least get a vote.

00:25:01.100 What do you make of that? She's the one who gets to make the decision.

00:25:04.000 I certainly forgive you for showing it. I would like Jasmine Crockett to have the platform

00:25:08.100 everywhere to talk all the time. She's the best gift to us possible. I want her to be the face

00:25:12.840 of the Democratic Party. She and AOC can lead them into oblivion. That's fantastic. More Jasmine,

00:25:17.940 okay? Because it puts on display what these people actually believe, where their party is headed.

00:25:22.540 They have no leader. They have no platform that they can run on. All of their policies have been

00:25:26.400 repudiated. All they have, they're a one trick pony. All they can do is criticize Trump and the

00:25:31.240 Republicans. And that's not going to sell, right? The reason we're going to make history and win

00:25:36.120 the midterms and grow the majority in the House so we can do more of this good work is because we're

00:25:40.860 going to demonstrate for all these new demographics of voters that came into our camp in 2024 that they

00:25:46.180 made the right decision. They didn't come reluctantly, Megan. We had a record number of Hispanic and

00:25:50.840 Latino voters, Black and African-American voters, Jewish voters, union workers. They did not come to us

00:25:55.500 reluctantly. They came with hopeful anticipation. Why? Because the woke, progressive, crazy left

00:26:01.280 left them behind. This is not your father's Democratic Party. And Jasmine Crockett is a

00:26:05.900 perfect illustration of that. And I want to turn her microphone up. Let her talk every day. I want

00:26:09.780 to bring her to the floor and just share her heart because that helps us. She's important. We want to

00:26:15.960 hear from her. That Democrat Party you just talked about is on full display, sadly, in New York City

00:26:22.960 today. Can you believe that this socialist Zoran? Why am I forgetting his name? Because I don't know

00:26:33.200 him. Yeah, Vandami just just won the Democratic nomination. I I'm stunned. I've lived in New York

00:26:39.680 for the past 17 years, minus the last three. I can't believe even that Democrat Party has done this.

00:26:45.180 What's your reaction? Well, the best commentary was I think Ron DeSantis and Florida leaders were

00:26:50.900 trolling New Yorkers saying this is the best thing for property values in Palm Beach, Florida

00:26:54.660 in history, because more New Yorkers are going to move to states that exercise common sense, Texas,

00:27:00.560 Florida, Tennessee. And I hope they come to my state of Louisiana because it's madness in New York City.

00:27:05.520 What's the problem there? I think these guys in AOC and those types, they figured out how to trigger

00:27:11.180 these young, uninformed people using social media and these other avenues. And I guess a lot of common

00:27:17.200 sense voters are not going to the polls. Well, this is dangerous stuff. And so this guy's now the

00:27:21.380 nominee of the Democratic Party. He is an anti open anti Semite socialist. They will destroy New York

00:27:27.720 City. It is a nightmare. So, I mean, hey, go vote for Eric Adams. Like he's the he's the he's the best

00:27:33.700 now. He's going to be saving New York right from this madness. And I hope they don't do it for the

00:27:38.760 sake of the city. We'd love it if it was Curtis Lee. Well, but he's not going to get it because

00:27:43.280 he's a Republican and New York doesn't vote Republican. So the next is Eric Adams. All

00:27:48.520 right. Before you go, do you have a few minutes for me on what's happening with this rogue federal

00:27:53.840 district court judge in Massachusetts? This is a crazy story. You point out you're a constitutional

00:28:00.000 attorney, which is why I wanted to ask you about it. In addition, your current role.

00:28:03.580 So what happened that the long and the short of it is you've got this judge who Biden got on the bench

00:28:08.480 in the waning days of his administration. He'd already lost. It was December 4th and they got

00:28:13.640 this guy confirmed, Brian Murphy. And of course, shopping for the right judge, the Democrats went.

00:28:20.280 They filed a case in his forum to say the Trump administration should not be allowed to deport

00:28:24.800 illegals to any country that they don't hail from, so-called third countries. So if I've got a guy

00:28:31.120 from El Salvador, he's got to be deported back to El Salvador and you can't send him to Ghana.

00:28:34.740 And the Trump administration had been doing that for various reasons. So this judge said,

00:28:40.740 you're right, they can't do it. They can't do it without all sorts of due process being afforded

00:28:44.980 to the already mandated deported illegals. It's not a question about whether they can be deported.

00:28:49.940 It's a question about to where. So he said they can't do it and I'm going to stay them from doing

00:28:54.540 it, issuing an order, staying them from doing it. Then the Trump administration subsequently deported

00:28:59.440 eight men without all the necessary to process, according to Brian Murphy. And he interfered and

00:29:06.000 said, you can't. I said, you can't do that. They said, all right, we're holding them in Djibouti

00:29:09.500 before we actually get them to South Sudan, the ultimate destination. And he said, well,

00:29:13.720 now you violated my order. So the Trump administration takes the appeal up to the

00:29:18.420 first circuit. They say we side with him. We're going to leave this stay on your ability to do that

00:29:23.020 in place. You're screwed. Trump administration. Trump administration takes it up to SCOTUS

00:29:26.780 and says, this is crazy. You can't stop us from deporting people. SCOTUS agrees with Trump.

00:29:31.800 SCOTUS says the stay is lifted. The case can play out on the merits. But while it does,

00:29:37.220 they're free to deport these people to the third party. And then Judge Murphy comes back in and says,

00:29:45.480 nope, I disagree. You cannot resume the deportations. And he says, because technically the DOJ didn't appeal

00:29:54.540 my second order saying they had violated my now illegal stay. So it's kind of like what we saw

00:30:01.280 with that judge Boseberg in DC, where the court said, you don't have jurisdiction to be interfering

00:30:06.900 here, sir. And he held onto it anyway, saying, well, they violated my order. So I'm going to hold

00:30:12.020 onto it just as long as possible with punishment. Only here, the punishment this guy's trying to inflict

00:30:16.300 is you have to abide by my now illegal order. That's your punishment. You cannot deport anybody.

00:30:22.660 This is really dangerously unconstitutional. What are your thoughts?

00:30:26.040 Of course. I mean, look, Murphy and Boseberg are like the poster children for activist judges. This

00:30:31.480 is exactly what the framers of the Constitution wanted to prevent. This is a violation of separation

00:30:36.880 of powers. I mean, they're sort of trying to override the duly elected president, popularly elected

00:30:42.560 president by the people. And it's completely out of control. I'm so grateful that elections do have

00:30:47.860 consequences. And who sits on these benches and these seats is really important. And the Supreme

00:30:53.140 Court, as a conservative majority, they've done the right thing here. But still, still in defiance,

00:30:59.280 effectively, of the Supreme Court. You have these federal district court judges acting like they're

00:31:03.600 little kings. It's crazy. We're trying to address this. And this is a serious crisis. I used to

00:31:09.140 litigate constitutional law cases and high profile stuff, you know, 15, 20 years ago. I would run

00:31:14.520 into activist judges on occasion, but I would just go get them overturned on appeal. These guys are

00:31:19.280 really out of control. And the numbers are as well, it shows. In the last 100 years, again, 67% of the

00:31:25.800 national injunctions issued against a particular president have been issued against one president.

00:31:30.560 His name is Donald Trump. And of those 67 injunctions, 90% of them were issued by the same small

00:31:37.240 handful of activists where you pointed out people are venue shopping and trying to get into their

00:31:41.260 courts because they know they'll do politics from the bench. And those are like, obviously known

00:31:45.700 Democrat operatives. So it's a crisis. We have passed legislation in the House called the No Road

00:31:50.600 Rulings Act, which would rein in the ability of single individual activist judges from stopping

00:31:56.380 an administration's policies. That's the right result. And that's sitting over in the Senate right now.

00:32:01.660 But we've got to get control of this situation. I call upon, of course, also Chief Justice Roberts,

00:32:08.080 because he does have some authority within the court system under Article 3 to rein in some of

00:32:13.540 this nonsense. And if they don't, then Congress will take action. We have the ability to limit

00:32:18.260 jurisdiction of courts. We can even eliminate the existence of whole courts, as you know,

00:32:22.460 under the Constitution. And desperate times call for desperate measures. We've got to get this thing

00:32:26.260 under control. How far would you go? I mean, they're appealing. Trump's doing the right thing,

00:32:30.560 which is appealing this back up to the Supreme Court, saying, would you please tell the judge

00:32:34.000 you meant what you said and possibly reassign him and give us a different judge since this guy's

00:32:38.800 out of control, which we'll see what the Supreme Court does. But if the Supreme Court doesn't rein

00:32:42.920 this judge, I mean, this this one seems extreme. I'm not I don't run around saying this guy should

00:32:47.340 be impeached and that judge should be impeached. No. But is there any chance if this guy stays on

00:32:51.380 this course, he might get impeached, Mr. Speaker? Well, you know, impeachment is a rare result.

00:32:57.320 It's only happened 15 times in the history of the country. We've impeached a judge and it's for

00:33:02.260 high crimes and misdemeanors. I mean, the last guy was effectively like taking a cash bribe,

00:33:06.760 you know, while he was on the bench. So we believe in the rule of law. That's we're constrained

00:33:11.640 because we're principled constitutional conservatives. We believe in the system. We're trying to we're

00:33:16.680 trying to ensure that those foundations are sustained and we want to work within the system to

00:33:21.860 do it the right way. So I applaud the president. He and I talk about all this all the time.

00:33:25.260 He's going through the system. He's using a an aggressive, effective Department of Justice

00:33:30.020 that believes in the rule of law to try to get it corrected appropriately. But if failing that,

00:33:36.420 I mean, Congress does have a role to play and we'll have to look at that very carefully. But,

00:33:40.340 you know, the damage that was done over the last four years, in particular with the Biden-Harris

00:33:44.100 administration, the lawfare, the abuse of our system of justice, it diminished the people's faith

00:33:49.240 in that system. You cannot maintain a constitutional republic unless people actually believe that

00:33:54.380 justice is fair and that you have equal justice under law. It's etched into the marble above the

00:33:59.420 door of the Supreme Court. If you don't have that, you lose a critical element of what it takes to

00:34:04.300 keep a republic like ours. We're about to have our 250th anniversary as a nation. Megan, you know,

00:34:09.540 we're still an experiment in self-governance. We don't know how long this grand experiment will

00:34:14.200 last. It's the greatest in history. But we've got to maintain these critical foundations and belief

00:34:18.880 in the system of justice is probably paramount among them all. And we're still waiting on the

00:34:24.420 Supreme Court decision on whether these nationwide injunctions are being improperly used

00:34:28.200 by the Democrats. Mr. Speaker, a pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on and good luck.

00:34:34.340 So great to be with you. Keep up the great work.

00:34:37.200 Oh, good luck. You're going to have a busy week ahead and we appreciate you putting in the time.

00:34:40.800 Coming up next, everybody, Charlie Kirk is here. As you gathered, there's a lot to discuss.

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00:35:59.840 Here with me now, founder of Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk. He's also the host of The Charlie Kirk

00:36:05.340 Show and one of the top unofficial advisors to President Trump. Charlie, great to see you. There's

00:36:10.280 a lot to discuss today. A socialist is on his way to becoming the mayor of New York City. But before we

00:36:16.180 get to that nutcase, can we just talk about the W, the big W that Trump just landed at NATO today in

00:36:23.480 an extraordinary moment where he's been fighting since term one to get these other NATO countries to

00:36:29.080 pay their damn fair share so that the United States doesn't have to shoulder far more than its

00:36:34.200 respective burden in providing for this defense? We saw it because Trump tweeted it out, a message

00:36:40.000 he'd received from the NATO secretary general on his way over there saying, you know, what a great

00:36:45.100 victory, Mr. President, 5% that all these nations are going to be able to pay 5% now. Trump had wanted

00:36:50.800 2% his first term, so he managed to get even more this time around. And today here is NATO's secretary

00:36:56.800 general as Trump was sitting there. For too long, one ally, the United States, carried too much of the

00:37:05.980 burden of that commitment. And that changes today. President Trump, dear Donald, you made this change

00:37:14.340 possible. Your leadership on this has already produced $1 trillion in extra spending from European

00:37:21.560 allies since 2016. And the decisions today will produce trillions more for our common defense

00:37:28.240 to make us stronger and fairer by equalizing spending between America and America's allies.

00:37:37.540 Extraordinary. Your thoughts, Charlie? Totally. Well, first of all, for everyone that says he's

00:37:41.140 trying to end NATO, actually, he's making NATO stronger as evidenced by that clip. I have a couple

00:37:46.320 thoughts. So the first of which is that I think that this is not a coincidence that this announcement

00:37:53.000 was made official right after President Donald Trump put on a masterclass in the Middle East the

00:37:58.020 last two weeks and after President Trump was basically scolding Iran and Israel, telling him to

00:38:03.220 knock it off. And then he gets right on a plane and flies to Europe, which is, look, these world leaders

00:38:08.200 know that you shouldn't mess with Donald Trump, that when this guy says something, he absolutely means it,

00:38:12.860 that he's calling the shots, that he wants the Western world to be strong, to be confident, to be well

00:38:18.380 financed. And another component of this, which I think is incredibly important, is this is really good

00:38:23.980 for Europe. Obama tried to do this as well. Again, no one's reporting on this. Obama actually had in some of

00:38:30.320 his official foreign policy documents, going back to like 2010, it's time to try to get the Europeans to pay

00:38:35.380 their fair share. But Obama did it in a typical State Department, bureaucratic, kind of like go through a

00:38:42.100 process. We have to have a committee, you know, we have to have a study and it takes like four years.

00:38:47.680 And then you ask the Europeans and Europeans are not exactly known for moving fast. And then, you

00:38:52.760 know, next thing you know, is 2015, like, OK, whatever. Donald Trump just goes into a meeting

00:38:56.800 and he throws it down and he says, you need to pay more. You have been freeloading. We're paying way

00:39:02.320 too much money here for NATO. This is good for Europe. It is a good thing for a country and a series

00:39:08.840 of countries to have a vested interest and to have a stakeholder type equity and to have an incentive

00:39:16.100 in your own defense. It is bad when another country is paying for your own defense. Why?

00:39:22.280 So when something like the Russian-Ukrainian war breaks out, it would be better if Europe was more

00:39:27.620 invested in this because then they might not want to spend as much money. They might be more invested

00:39:32.760 in peace. It's easy to want war if somebody else is financing it. And that's been one of the biggest

00:39:37.360 problems with this Russian-Ukrainian conflict the last two years. Who's sending all that money?

00:39:41.140 It's $200 billion of American money when the rest of Europe is saying, well, America, can you spend

00:39:45.700 more money? So this just goes back to very basic self-governance principles. It's good for Europe.

00:39:51.400 It's good for the Western world. President Trump delivers again something that Obama and other

00:39:56.080 presidents have said they want to do for quite some time. It's a major victory. So you could add it

00:40:00.460 to just the series of accomplishments that President Trump's been able to do abroad the last couple of

00:40:05.840 weeks. You know, that power, that strength is present here at home as well. And it's the reason

00:40:10.940 why I just finished an interview with Speaker Johnson. The Republicans are going to get in line

00:40:15.480 on the big, beautiful bill. And he's predicting that President Trump will be able to sign it into

00:40:20.080 law on July 4th, thus setting the entire Trump agenda on course for more success. And I think Speaker

00:40:27.240 Johnson made a good point, Charlie, because I asked him about how right now the bill is unpopular,

00:40:31.420 very unpopular with Democrats, of course, but also very unpopular with independents and many

00:40:36.100 predicting it's going to cost Republicans the House in the midterms. He's starting to persuade

00:40:40.260 me that that may be wrong. I mean, his point was this thing is a lighter for the economy. It's going

00:40:47.160 to set it on fire in a great way. It's going to start rip roaring the way it did in Trump 1.0.

00:40:52.380 And that's what's going to save Republicans and the House majority come midterms. What do you think?

00:40:57.740 Well, the other component, I think there's some truth to that for sure. And I think Speaker Johnson

00:41:01.140 has one of the hardest jobs on the planet. I'm very critical of him. He's become a friend,

00:41:04.740 but I don't envy him. And you have to be honest. I mean, to have a three-seat majority is probably

00:41:09.540 one of the hardest political jobs on the planet. So my heart goes out to him for trying to get this

00:41:15.580 done. But we have to understand about the big, beautiful bill. First of all, we've been so distracted

00:41:20.200 with Iran-Israel that we haven't really been able to advocate for it properly. So I think some of

00:41:24.380 those numbers are going to turn. I'd love to see President Donald Trump do kind of like a road

00:41:28.580 show. He's at his best on the road. I'd love to see him do like a 10-stop whistle stop to, you know,

00:41:33.620 tour, go to Pennsylvania, go to Arizona, go to Wisconsin, go to all the battleground states and

00:41:38.480 make the case for the big, beautiful bill for nothing more than just trying to build grassroots

00:41:42.700 consensus. Because he's so good at being able to take the abstract and be able to have regular

00:41:48.540 people understand it. That's one of his superpowers. It's one of the reasons why he was able to bring

00:41:53.020 so many first-time voters out. But we must be, we must understand, this is what's called a mandate

00:41:58.120 bill. Yes, it is June and almost July, and so it feels as if we're so disconnected from the election.

00:42:04.240 But there are a couple different types of bills in Washington, D.C. You have specialty bills,

00:42:09.560 you have policy bills, you have budget bills, and rarely do you get something called a mandate bill.

00:42:15.600 So a mandate bill is where you just fulfill the promises that you ran on.

00:42:19.620 Now, Obama sort of did this in 2009, but he messed it up where he thought that his mandate was to

00:42:25.920 basically obliterate the American health care system. Like, with all due respect, Obama won a

00:42:31.260 huge election in 2008. Health care was not the major reason why he won. He won because of an anti-Iraq

00:42:36.720 war, anti-establishment, populism, all sorts of stuff. So he messed that up. President Trump in 2017,

00:42:43.440 you could make an argument that he didn't also run solely on the repeal of Obamacare. But you

00:42:49.240 might remember Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell, they're like, hey, you got to go for the repeal

00:42:52.580 of Obamacare. Remember, Meghan, where John McCain came and gave a negative, like a thumbs down?

00:42:58.460 And that bill kind of was a little bit of a flop. What this is, though, is a mandate bill. Most

00:43:03.220 importantly, it fully finances the deportation agenda and the immigration agenda on the border.

00:43:08.060 Can I just give some numbers on that? Let me give some numbers on that because they're actually

00:43:11.460 pretty stunning. It's the largest investment in border security in a generation. Nearly 150

00:43:16.800 billion to secure the border and deport illegals. Forty six point five billion to complete the border

00:43:22.440 barrier system, meaning the wall, et cetera, that down there. Forty five billion to expand ice detention

00:43:27.280 capacity. Eight billion to hire 10,000 new ice enforcement and removal officers. Four point one

00:43:34.000 billion for three thousand new border patrol agents. Five thousand new office of field operations,

00:43:38.660 customer officers. One point two five billion to hire 200 immigration judges to expand immigration

00:43:43.280 courtroom space. We could go on. But this is the most funding I've ever seen for the southern border.

00:43:48.640 Go ahead. And we need it. So we need to get to 10 million deportations. Joe Biden allowed 10 to 15

00:43:54.340 million people in the last four year period. We're not even talking about the people that have been here

00:43:57.380 for 20 years. We can have that conversation as we proceed. We're talking about people that have been

00:44:00.720 here for less than four years. We know at least 10 to 15 million of them came under Joe Biden.

00:44:05.160 We have to get 10 million back to their country, their home country by self deportation,

00:44:09.340 by ice deportation. And we need more funding for ice. And so this is the largest funding for that.

00:44:14.680 And you're right, Megan. On the secondary component is this is an economic stimulus, the likes of which

00:44:20.500 that we have never seen. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime. Trump's tax cuts, renewal of all the

00:44:26.680 business depreciation side, also the energy components. And there's some other phenomenal

00:44:32.000 components of this. For example, I'm sure you've covered this, but we did this extensively on our

00:44:36.620 podcast. And my friend Brad Gerstner has really been pushing for this, which is the one thousand

00:44:41.420 dollar Trump baby account. Do you know about this? The investment account where every new baby

00:44:46.720 will get a thousand dollars invested in the S&P 100 over the next 18 years, which will create

00:44:52.740 stakeholders for the youth of this country. So imagine next July at the 250th anniversary of our

00:44:59.260 country, President Donald Trump will say to the people of this country, blacks, Hispanics who have

00:45:04.520 said politicians have never done anything for me or my kids. Everybody take out your phone to your

00:45:09.140 Invest America app. And I want you to look at the one thousand three hundred dollars that are right

00:45:14.280 there for your kid and they can access it by the time they get to be age 18. Imagine the psychological

00:45:19.860 connection going into the midterms where millions of people say, wow, President Trump actually

00:45:24.580 materially delivered for my children. There's so many other components of this bill that are

00:45:30.460 phenomenal. Again, is it perfect? My biggest feedback and criticism, Megan, is actually what is

00:45:36.380 not in it, which is the spending, which is I wish we were cutting more spending. Honestly, I wish that

00:45:41.600 we did more in cutting spending. But part of it is because we have a slim house majority. With that being

00:45:46.060 said, it's still the largest welfare reform. It's still the largest Medicaid reform. It's still the

00:45:50.820 largest of peeling back the green new scam. So you're putting that all together. The big, beautiful

00:45:55.900 bill. We have to get the favorables up. But I think the more that people learn about it and as they

00:46:01.060 start to see the deportation numbers go up, they see inflation go down and they see rocket fuel behind

00:46:06.220 the economy. We'll see that the Trump agenda will only get more popular. OK, so back to international

00:46:12.500 on the Iranian front, we've seen this playbook before and an unauthorized leak comes out of either

00:46:20.020 the Intel community or the Pentagon. Here it's kind of both because it's the Intel community within the

00:46:24.180 Pentagon that leaks to Natasha Burstrand, who now is with CNN. But this is the most discredited

00:46:31.760 reporter when it comes to Intel leaks of all time. It's a miracle. This woman has a job still

00:46:37.280 in any right world. She would never be allowed to report again on anything related to intelligence.

00:46:43.820 Totally. Yeah, she is the 51 intelligence agents say that the Hunter Biden laptop is disinformation

00:46:50.120 person. She was the chief perpetrator of Russiagate. She she's a stenographer. She takes whatever

00:46:55.260 her ever her sources are inside the Intel community, want her to print and she puts it on the pages now of

00:47:01.240 CNN. And this she takes what's been dubbed a low confidence preliminary report within the Pentagon

00:47:09.840 saying it's unclear exactly what exactly we we managed to wipe out with this strike that we conducted

00:47:18.500 on Iran and that we didn't actually absolutely obliterate their facilities. We may have set them

00:47:24.180 back by only one month or two. We destroyed the entrances to Fordow, but not the actual

00:47:30.320 centrifuges. Again, how anybody could know that from the preliminary report, which is based on

00:47:36.460 satellite images, remains really unclear. But in any event, she and now the others, because she's

00:47:41.780 like patient zero now, New York Times, all of them are running with it. Trump's mad. Pete Hegseth is mad.

00:47:49.300 Here's Trump just a little bit yesterday ripping on people for repeating this report and for

00:47:54.120 their coverage of what happened in Iran. It's top 27. The B2 pilots did their job. They did it better

00:48:01.200 than anybody could even imagine. They hit late in the evening. It was dark with no moon and they hit

00:48:07.360 that target with every one of those things. And that place is gone. But when I see CNN all night long,

00:48:13.640 they're trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't really as demolished as we thought it was demolished.

00:48:19.200 You take a look at the pinpricks and you see that place is gone. And I will say,

00:48:24.380 I think CNN ought to apologize to the pilots of the B2s. I think that MSDNC ought to apologize.

00:48:31.920 I think these guys really, these networks and these cable networks are real losers. You really are.

00:48:39.020 You're gutless losers. Gutless losers. I just got to add one thing because this just crossed,

00:48:45.340 Charlie, the Israeli prime minister of the office has just issued the following statement.

00:48:51.800 The devastating U.S. strike on Fordow destroyed the site's critical infrastructure and rendered

00:48:56.580 the enrichment facility inoperable. We assess that the American strikes on Iran's nuclear

00:49:01.320 facilities combined with the Israeli strikes on other elements of Iran's military nuclear program

00:49:05.620 has set back Iran's ability to develop nuclear weapons by many years. Now, Israel is not in the

00:49:12.060 business of downplaying Iran's ability to get a nuclear weapon. OK, to the contrary. Right. So if

00:49:21.020 Israel is saying these attacks have developed or have have set back Iran's ability to develop nuclear

00:49:28.720 weapons by many years, you can believe that. Go ahead. Yeah, I have several thoughts on this,

00:49:34.860 the first of which is this was so predictable that there was going to be some unverified leak from

00:49:39.760 the intel community to destabilize President Trump to try to take away from the obvious political win.

00:49:45.760 Think about the political win that is just waiting here for President Trump that is now

00:49:48.940 setting into the narrative. No nukes for Iran, no troops on the ground, no U.S. troops killed in

00:49:53.240 response, no endless war, no quagmire, no nation building. I mean, that's a phenomenal victory,

00:49:58.160 right? It checks all the boxes of what the American people want, which is they don't want another

00:50:02.100 Middle Eastern war, which is something obviously I'm more in that camp. But I also I don't want

00:50:06.540 no I don't want nukes for Iran. And President Donald Trump was able to accomplish both. So

00:50:10.420 it's so predictable that, as you perfectly put it, the stenographer for the Langley bugle

00:50:15.780 for this, the Central Intelligence Agency is is is is leading with the a delegitimization campaign.

00:50:24.720 I will say, though, that the most important component of all of this, because a nuclear program

00:50:30.580 is a mindset. We know that, meaning that if you want a nuclear bomb, then you could take out all

00:50:35.600 the mechanical capabilities. You could just wake up one day and say, we're still going to go about

00:50:39.560 and get it, which is one of the reasons why all roads were on the narrative war through Lindsey

00:50:44.520 Graham and James Langford were leading towards regime change because they're not wrong. They're

00:50:49.560 totally wrong. That regime change is a good idea. It's a terrible idea. And it remains a really bad

00:50:54.440 idea. But as long as a regime wants a nuclear weapon, you'll never actually be able to get rid of

00:50:59.240 their ambition for a nuclear weapon. So there's difference between nuclear capabilities and a nuclear

00:51:03.940 program. Their nuclear program will continue to exist as long as they want one. I know we got to

00:51:09.000 go in a second, but let me just kind of summarize it by saying this. The most important thing, though,

00:51:13.640 that the Iranians now have in the back of their mind, if they continue to pursue a nuclear bomb,

00:51:18.300 Trump might bomb them from the sky. Is that regardless of the timeline, it's finally real life

00:51:24.860 deterrence that somebody might come in and interrupt it. And by the way, as you're a scientist,

00:51:30.540 you might get assassinated. If you're a general, you might get taken out. And so beyond the actual

00:51:35.600 timeline, which is a less important component of here in the back or the front of all their minds

00:51:40.680 in Persia, they're thinking, boy, do we really want this? Because just put all this money into

00:51:45.140 it, we might get taken out in real time. Yeah. All right. There's more to discuss. We're

00:51:49.360 going to take a quick break and we will do that on the opposite side. Charlie Kirk is with us for the

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00:54:38.320 When you talk to the people who built the bombs, understand what those bombs can do

00:54:43.040 and deliver those bombs, they landed precisely where they were supposed to. It was a flawless

00:54:48.380 mission, flawless, right down where we knew they needed to enter. And given the 30,000 pounds of

00:54:54.620 explosives and capability of those munitions, it was devastation underneath Fordell. And the amount

00:55:00.500 of munitions, six per location, any assessment that tells you it was something otherwise is speculating

00:55:07.100 with other motives. And we know that because when you actually look at the report, by the way, it was a

00:55:11.680 top secret report. It was preliminary. It was low confidence. All right. So this is a, you make

00:55:18.560 assessments based on what you know. As I said, it could be very devastating, very serious.

00:55:22.960 Moderate to severe. And we believe far more likely severe and obliterated.

00:55:27.800 Is there a leak investigation? Is there a leak investigation?

00:55:30.740 Of course. We're doing a leak investigation with the FBI right now because this information

00:55:34.880 is for internal purposes, battle damage assessments. And CNN and others are trying to spin it to make the

00:55:40.740 president look bad when this was an overwhelming success. It's absolutely disgusting. Welcome

00:55:47.420 back to the MK show. Charlie Kirk's back with me this. So you have a lot of sources within within this

00:55:52.500 administration, as do I. And what I'm hearing over and over from from them is that, you know,

00:55:58.760 for lack of a better term, the deep state is real. There are people working actively to undermine

00:56:06.080 the Trump agenda, notwithstanding who he's placed atop these agencies. And in this particular case,

00:56:12.120 it's the Pentagon to undermine him, to embarrass him, to stop his agenda, to leak to just the right

00:56:18.980 reporter to make him look foolish in a way that may have substance and may not, you know, may have some

00:56:25.080 foot in fact and may not. But this is what they're up against. They can't even keep some intel person

00:56:32.140 working at the Pentagon to toe the fucking party line. And I don't mean lie. I mean, don't leak

00:56:37.980 preliminary low confidence reports to try to make. It's not just Trump and Hexeth. It's the United

00:56:43.060 States look weak, look feckless, look like it failed. Look, if we didn't obliterate everything.

00:56:49.860 OK, fine. We obliterated a lot. That's what's going to be the takeaway. But this is done for a political

00:56:55.960 purpose. And the compliant media does what it always does. It's stomach turning, Charlie.

00:57:02.800 It is. And these are the same people to understand the sickness from the media here.

00:57:07.880 Here they are willing to publish a unverified battle assessment report, which is incredibly murky.

00:57:16.300 And they're like diving into sources. The same people that ignored Biden's mental decline

00:57:21.360 for four years. Megan, think about it. So they ignore the thing that we all see

00:57:26.080 of the commander in chief. And they're willing to go to some unverified, very cloudy. Oh,

00:57:32.120 it might not done as much damage that we'd like. I mean, this is a repulsive sickness

00:57:37.200 that has infected the American press corps where they ignore the obvious and the important and the

00:57:43.160 flagrant. And they highlight the unclear all for a very specific political agenda just to try to get

00:57:50.340 after the commander in chief. And let's let me repeat why. It's because they know that if this

00:57:55.500 narrative continues to build, President Trump will be one of the most popular presidents in the modern

00:58:00.780 era, because you think about what he is pulled off. You think about it. It's just it's mind boggling.

00:58:05.940 And they see it. They say, oh, no, no, that he looks way too good here. We have to try to cast doubt.

00:58:10.400 We have to try to, you know, make people second guess it. And so and look, I think Pete Hegseth is doing

00:58:16.160 a great job. I think Marco Rubio is doing a phenomenal job. That whole team.

00:58:20.500 Has not had an easy task in front of them. They've been traveling along the world. They've

00:58:23.920 been to Saudi Arabia. They're being in NATO. They're doing this Iran-Israel thing. And let's

00:58:28.820 also appreciate one other component here. And I'm not the first one to notice this.

00:58:33.360 There were no leaks ahead of this bombing campaign. None. And, you know, they were hitting Pete Hegseth.

00:58:39.460 And now the little minions are angry. Now the little minions in the Pentagon are angry about it. And now

00:58:44.660 they've got their first, you know, taste of classified information on the results and are running to the

00:58:49.100 Natasha Burstrands of the world to try to make it look bad. Oh, see, it was a shitty operation.

00:58:53.400 I didn't have part in it, but it was terrible. They screwed it up. They didn't actually get to

00:58:57.060 the uranium stores. Yes. And that goes to show what their incentive and their motive actually

00:59:04.360 is. They don't care about pursuing truth or exposing power because they don't do that for

00:59:08.640 the Democrat side. They never have and they never will. It's just about stopping a certain

00:59:12.920 philosophical agenda that President Trump represents, which is to make our country strong,

00:59:18.060 to bring us back to greatness. And this right now is without a doubt one of the greatest

00:59:22.420 foreign policy accomplishments we've seen in the modern era. President Donald Trump could win the

00:59:27.300 triple crown. He could solve the India-Pakistan war, which was getting really hot really quick.

00:59:32.100 And they give him credit for that. Solve the Iranian-Israel war and potentially solve the Russian-Ukrainian

00:59:37.220 war. They know what that means. And they're trying everything they possibly can to try to make it

00:59:43.340 murky and to make him unpopular. And thankfully, there is enough pushback against kind of these

00:59:49.640 reporters that do whatever the intel agencies want. But understand this, that when you take over the CIA,

00:59:56.600 you only get a couple civilians in an agency that has like 100,000 people. I don't think it's 100,000

01:00:02.880 people. It might be somewhere between 50,000 to 60,000 people. We actually don't know in CIA.

01:00:06.940 Think about it. So at DOD, there are like 200 civilian spots of people that run SOLIC and

01:00:13.420 Assistant Secretary for Policy. I mean, the chart is unbelievable at the Department of Defense.

01:00:18.140 If you go to the Central Intelligence Agency, it's like John Ratcliffe plus like two people.

01:00:22.340 It is almost an entirely career-driven operation with almost no political appointees whatsoever.

01:00:28.900 And that is the deep state on full display, which is one of the reasons why President Trump,

01:00:33.220 I think, needs to develop Team B. Reagan had Team B. Team B is the creation of another group of people

01:00:39.900 that interpret the intel, that double-check what the intel that President Trump is getting every

01:00:45.460 single day. J.D. Vance can run it. You can have Amaryllis Kennedy, whatever. Again, I'm not the first

01:00:50.360 one to propose this. Steve Bannon has said this before, but we need to really kind of build a

01:00:54.780 grassroots movement for this. President Trump could do it with a stroke of a pen. Say,

01:00:58.500 okay, do it. Where Team B is constantly double-checking the intel. Are you getting the

01:01:02.860 truth? Are you getting the whole picture? And what Reagan found is Team B would catch a lot of errors

01:01:08.160 from the usual intel flows from Langley. It's so shameful that we can't trust our own

01:01:13.260 employees. They have a new boss and they have a new agenda and their job is to enact it.

01:01:17.960 And instead, they work to undermine him at every turn. You mentioned the Ukraine war. There's some

01:01:24.320 breaking news on that. Trump and Zelensky met. Zelensky just posted to X, I had a long and

01:01:30.260 substantive meeting with President Trump. We covered all the truly important issues. I thank Mr.

01:01:35.880 President. I thank the United States. We discussed how to achieve a ceasefire and a real peace. We

01:01:40.700 spoke about how to protect our people. We appreciate the attention and the readiness to help bring peace

01:01:45.780 closer. Details will follow. I don't know whether we're going to achieve peace between Russia and

01:01:52.680 Ukraine. I mean, at some point it's going to have to end. But I think just the tone of that is

01:01:57.100 encouraging. I think Zelensky has taken the lesson that was delivered to him in the Oval and is now

01:02:02.820 understanding. As Trump said, he has no cards to play. And really, he is in a submissive posture.

01:02:08.400 There's no good that can come from him antagonizing the president or vice president. And what he needs

01:02:14.660 to do is curry favor with this president and let President Trump come to his own conclusions about how

01:02:19.580 impossible Vladimir Putin is to negotiate with.

01:02:24.340 Yes. And reports are saying he might have actually wore a suit. And so we're really making progress

01:02:30.340 here. The jacket, the kind of. Yeah, at least the jacket, at least the jacket, but the whole kind of

01:02:36.840 the whole kind of like I'm going to go work out at Planet Fitness look is seems like it's a little

01:02:42.040 old. OK, the planet fitness gig is not good. But no, look, I mean, look, if President Trump doesn't

01:02:48.720 have enough on his plate, he is he's now trying to. And I think he will. Look, I'm optimistic that

01:02:54.660 we're going to reach some settlement between Russia, Ukraine. It's not good for either country.

01:02:58.900 And again, it's a killing field. Sixty three hundred people died last week. And that just

01:03:03.880 drives the president nuts. He hates to see unnecessary killing. And what are they fighting

01:03:08.280 for? Another 30 miles here or 40 miles here? And this is a territorial dispute where it is not

01:03:14.740 even clear what the purpose of victory is. And each side is just getting more and more.

01:03:21.520 Let's just say radicalized as this war continues. And we saw, by the way, with the Israel, Iranian

01:03:28.480 ceasefire, which was one of the more confusing ceasefires I've ever seen, that it's really hard to

01:03:33.640 actually broker a ceasefire. It's not unusual for people to want to get the last shot, to want to

01:03:38.020 get the last missile. But do you know what it took? It took President Donald Trump dropping the F-bomb

01:03:43.240 at 6 a.m. in front of the sticks before he flies to NATO, where he says they don't know what the F

01:03:49.300 they are doing. And that was like the F-bomb heard around the world. He might as well drop an atomic

01:03:53.940 bomb. People are like, whoa. And you know, it's amazing. As soon as he said that, all of Israel's

01:03:58.520 missiles stopped, all of Iranian missiles stopped. Because guess what? Dad was mad. Dad was back.

01:04:04.980 He's in charge. It takes an alpha male and takes somebody with the energy and the poise and honestly,

01:04:11.340 the confidence to end this. And I think and I hope and I pray that we can get peace between Russia

01:04:16.940 and Ukraine. It's funny because a lot of people were saying that that that exchange was giving

01:04:20.940 them divorced parent vibes. Listening to Trump and as you call him dad, you're not the only one.

01:04:26.820 The NATO secretary general called him dad, too. I know they're finally learning.

01:04:31.680 It just came out. Here it is. Sat 23.

01:04:35.520 They had a big fight, like two kids in a school yard. You know, they fight like hell. You can't

01:04:39.920 stop them. Let them fight for about two, three minutes. Then it's easier to stop them.

01:04:43.840 And then daddy has to sometimes use strong language.

01:04:46.560 Yeah, he has to use strong language. Everyone's going, you have to use a certain word.

01:04:51.900 Daddy has to use a strong language.

01:04:54.000 I was joking around. I said, so imagine being at NATO, right? These are all just like bureaucratic,

01:05:01.760 technical, very European educated professors. You know the type, right? They're very like focused.

01:05:09.080 They're very German in the way they present themselves, very orderly and organized. They

01:05:12.500 overanalyze everything. So they're preparing for Trump's arrival at NATO and they see Donald Trump

01:05:17.740 on no sleep, go to the sticks, dropping the F bomb. I'm mad at Israel. I'm mad at Iran.

01:05:23.780 And I'm coming to NATO. And these NATO guys are probably like, oh my goodness,

01:05:27.420 what are we supposed to do with this? Just give him whatever he wants. I mean,

01:05:30.540 this guy is on one because look, we hold all the cards and that you can kind of see them coming

01:05:34.600 along though. Can't you can see this? Totally. Of course.

01:05:37.600 I'm kind of into it. Wait, I'm starting to feel a little inspired. You know what? He might be onto

01:05:42.020 something. Yes. Well, and that's the thing is that over time, you know, Trump really kind of,

01:05:48.160 you know, kind of wins you over, right? Because the world's a dangerous place.

01:05:53.780 And, you know, Trump has a very, you know, he is a rhetorical genius to him. Not everyone

01:05:57.820 quite understands it. But deep down, Europe is like, wow, you know, we're being invaded

01:06:03.280 by Mohammedism. We're being, you know, Putin is invading Ukraine. We have the Chinese threat.

01:06:08.180 Maybe this guy that talks but also delivers a big game. He's the best hope for the West.

01:06:13.180 And you could totally, I totally agree with you. You can start to see that in 2017, 2018,

01:06:18.140 when Trump went to NATO, oh, there was scorn and there was like, oh, who is this guy? And how do

01:06:23.300 we get rid of him? How do we cleanse ourself of this filth? Now it's kind of like a, it's kind of

01:06:29.460 like an admission. It's like this guy's in charge. The Western world acknowledges that America holds

01:06:35.500 the cards and we want to be successful. We want victory. And again, for President Trump,

01:06:42.540 just the, the reconfiguration of the attitude of NATO has been one of the most striking things to

01:06:48.460 see of Donald Trump's entire career. He, I mean, he truly is winning. He has a winning mindset. He

01:06:54.480 has a success mindset. He has an abundance mindset and that can be very intoxicating. You know, if you

01:06:59.900 spend enough time around it, you start to see possibilities that you didn't see before. And it's

01:07:05.020 funny to watch it happen. Even with these NATO guys who like you point out, loathed him very,

01:07:10.400 very recently. Here's Trump. He's, he's speaking now and said the following on Iran.

01:07:16.740 As you know, we carried out a massive precision strike. Very, very successful. It was called

01:07:21.220 obliteration, which is funny. That's how it was called that by him. No other military on earth

01:07:25.880 could have done it. Now we've paved the way for this historic ceasefire agreement. It's the 12 day

01:07:31.480 war. We think it's over. I don't think they're going to be going back at each other. I mean,

01:07:34.420 that's what's so extraordinary. What may have happened on Saturday night is the entire Israeli

01:07:38.400 conflict may be over now. The 10, seven response may be over now. They've basically obliterated

01:07:43.700 Hamas substantially, if not entirely obliterated Hamas, and then brought it up to Hamas's sponsor,

01:07:51.940 Iran. And now if, if there's a real ceasefire here, that, that war is over. And all that remains

01:07:59.940 is to get the hostages back and figure out, you know, just the small matter of figuring out

01:08:06.380 what's going to happen with Palestine. I mean, there's that, but really that president Trump

01:08:10.480 doesn't have to do that. No, no, he doesn't have to do that. I would like to see an end to the war.

01:08:17.120 No one likes all this killing in Gaza. Look, I'm pro-Israel. You're pro-Israel. I'm on team

01:08:20.900 civilization, but these are people made in the image of God. I don't like to see them, you know,

01:08:25.260 scattered. I mean, we want to try to have wealth and abundance and prosperity. There is a serious

01:08:29.580 problem. A lot of them are incredibly radicalized. And the big tell is no one in the Middle East wants

01:08:34.100 them. Jordan doesn't want them. Egypt doesn't want them. Saudi Arabia doesn't want them.

01:08:38.440 They're kind of a people without a home and they're, they're an unwanted people,

01:08:42.320 which is really sad because I guarantee you there's like young kids that have done nothing

01:08:45.840 wrong, of course, in that, you know, a couple million group people. So they got to figure that

01:08:49.980 out. I don't have, I have no idea what to do there because the, the old model of you just have

01:08:54.860 this hot box of terrorism and it bubbles up, it's unsustainable. It's bad. It does not work.

01:08:59.640 So there has to be some sort of brokering there, but that's not president Trump's job,

01:09:03.360 right? He's the president United States of America. What he should do is try to broker

01:09:06.380 a settlement, bring the hostages back and didn't say, look, you know, you guys got 90 days. Try

01:09:11.420 to figure this out, but we're not taking any refugees. We're not doing any of this. You

01:09:15.200 know, we're Islamic importation of it into the West, but we got to figure it out. But most

01:09:19.700 importantly though, is that president Donald Trump, as you could see, he wants to try to

01:09:23.820 get all the focus on our hemisphere. Hemispheric hegemony is part of his MAGA doctrine. Okay.

01:09:31.040 We'll solve Israel, Iran. We'll solve Israel, Gaza. We'll solve India, Pakistan. We'll solve

01:09:36.000 Russia, Ukraine, and then come back to our hemisphere. But one of the most important

01:09:40.420 foreign policy goals that he has is Panama Canal and Greenland. We joke around about those two.

01:09:46.200 They're incredibly important from a geopolitical standpoint, from rare earth minerals to trade,

01:09:50.880 to international waterways. That's far more important, by the way, than what we're seeing,

01:09:55.880 you know, in the Middle East right now for American future. And basically, and by the way,

01:09:59.800 President Trump did not manufacture this Middle East conflict. Like this wasn't like he came in

01:10:04.160 and said, let's, let's do something. It arrived on his doorstep.

01:10:06.660 It was foisted upon him. This is him handling a crisis that was unforeseen in, I'm sorry,

01:10:11.800 but like a boss. Go ahead. No, I completely agree. That's right. He handled it like a boss and

01:10:16.740 he didn't want it to last long. And that's what I love about it. I mean, on one hand,

01:10:20.760 you have Dick Cheney, who's like, oh, Iraq might have weapons of mass destruction. Give me 500,000

01:10:25.500 troops, eight years and $2 trillion. And I'll find out he doesn't have them. Donald Trump says,

01:10:31.360 oh, Iran might want nukes. Give me 12 days, like 30 pilots and, you know, no troops on the ground.

01:10:40.100 What a contrast, right? President Donald Trump was able to get done in 12 days. What,

01:10:44.380 you know, Dick Cheney and George Bush, it took them 10 years of nation building and the Iraq war

01:10:48.420 will go down as one of the greatest disasters and mistakes in the history of our country.

01:10:53.160 But also right up to our own country. Remember, on the first day, President Donald Trump signed

01:10:58.220 a declaration, a proclamation, I should say, that did not get a lot of coverage. He designated

01:11:03.520 the cartels as a foreign terrorist organization. That means in the eyes of the American government,

01:11:09.280 the cartels are indistinguishable from Hamas and Hezbollah, as it should be. And so President

01:11:13.860 Donald Trump wants to focus on our hemisphere. He wants to have more focus on the cartels

01:11:18.160 and less focus on Iran. So he's trying to get these things done in the first six months of

01:11:22.260 his administration so that he can then have all the remaining three and a half years on our

01:11:26.460 hemisphere. Get Panama done, get Greenland done, wipe out the cartels and get them severely and

01:11:31.920 significantly diminished, which every day the cartels are killing Americans. Let me say that

01:11:36.040 again. Every day the cartels are killing Americans. That is an existential threat to our country.

01:11:40.520 And that truly is America first, which is to march forward and to sequence it with a crescendo that

01:11:46.760 all emphasis comes to America and our borders and our hemisphere.

01:11:51.100 What I've got to ask you to weigh in on the internal civil war, whatever you want to call

01:11:55.540 it, that happened in advance of the Iranian strike. Our mutual friend Tucker was very outspoken against

01:12:01.280 it. Trump did it anyway. He did hear people out. He met with you. He met with Bannon. He talked to

01:12:05.440 Tucker. He decided to go a different way. But what do you make of the division? Because

01:12:09.940 I don't know, I even know if it's the left. It seems more like the neocon win of the party

01:12:15.680 is very celebratory that he didn't listen to Tucker and others like Tucker. And I just don't see it

01:12:23.220 like that. I mean, Tucker's got his very strong views. They're very sincerely held. And I think to

01:12:27.560 his credit, he voiced them in even though he loves Trump. He voiced them and he said, I don't agree

01:12:32.820 with it. And then when he felt he went too far, he apologized to the president for the way in which

01:12:36.540 he did it. Didn't cause him to abandon his views. But in any event, some on the right, I think even

01:12:42.020 more than the left are having a lot of fun with this civil war. And you're on the so-called unofficial

01:12:47.160 board of directors. So what do you make of it? Well, I mean, if you followed my feed the last

01:12:53.220 couple of weeks, I haven't engaged and I don't do this actually in any of the back and forth of the

01:12:57.720 personal stuff. I'm like in a unique spot where I call Tucker a good friend. I call Tucker a good

01:13:03.800 friend and I call Mark Levin a good friend. I'm actually in a unique spot. And, you know,

01:13:08.180 they obviously have the agency to do what they want to do. I've tried to take a bigger picture of you.

01:13:13.580 And my my statements were always very clear, both privately and publicly, because you're right. I

01:13:17.400 did meet with the president, talked about this. And I said, I trust you 100 percent, Mr. President,

01:13:21.540 whatever you do, we have your back. But allow me to try to introduce one element,

01:13:25.440 which is the younger voters that I represent on college campuses. They are war weary.

01:13:29.980 They don't want foreign conflict. They don't want foreign intervention. And so just please

01:13:33.880 keep that in mind when you're going about this, that you won the youth vote, that we have this

01:13:38.160 incredible under 30 coalition. It's my 13 years of labor and toil and only because he knew it's

01:13:43.960 possible. So please, you know, factor that in. And he did. It seems like right. He didn't want

01:13:48.640 something long and he accomplished all of it together. And so and I think it was important that those of us

01:13:54.180 kind of introduced some caution into the conversation, because if you don't introduce

01:13:57.340 caution into the conversation, things get wildly out of control. And I was good for my word,

01:14:02.840 by the way, as soon as those strikes were launched on Saturday. And, Megan, you can attest this on

01:14:06.380 social. I had the president's back resolutely. I said, we must trust President Trump. He made the

01:14:10.420 right decision. We stand with President Trump. As I said, I would. And I did. But look, I think a lot

01:14:15.000 of this can be healed and remedied. I did predict this. I sent out a tweet before all this. I said,

01:14:20.180 look, if for those of you, for those of us that do this professionally, there is no greater divide

01:14:24.660 on the American right than foreign policy. It's like we're largely in agreement on immigration.

01:14:29.440 We're actually really in agreement on the trans stuff. But like they're the greatest fault line

01:14:34.700 of the conservative movement is foreign policy. And I was really worried that this was going to

01:14:38.640 bring it to a bring it to a very, a cat, not catastrophic, but very unpleasant moment.

01:14:47.220 Turns out I was partially right because no one has liked to see what we've seen on X the last

01:14:52.720 week and a half. It's just been seeing a lot of our friends fight. It's been really

01:14:56.960 kind of nasty. I've taken a different tact, which is let's just keep it about ideas.

01:15:01.520 Let's also understand that there might be a third or fourth way. It doesn't have to be a binary

01:15:05.280 of interventionism versus isolationism. To be perfectly honest, I tend to be very skeptical

01:15:10.840 of interventionism. But President Donald Trump has really pioneered a third way and he rejected

01:15:15.440 that binary, which is no permanent wars, but violent, precise, short-lived action in America's

01:15:21.020 interest. And by the way, he now has a remarkable track record for this. Megan, think about it.

01:15:26.160 It's take out Soleimani, taking out al-Baghdadi and ISIS, airstrikes in Syria, and now the

01:15:31.680 strikes in Iran, none of which resulted in American troops dying, none of which resulted in permanent

01:15:38.400 war. I tend to believe that a lot of the tensions are going to go down. I actually seek to be a

01:15:44.920 peacemaker here. We have our upcoming Student Action Summit, which you're speaking at in July.

01:15:49.940 Megan, we're really excited. The audience can get their tickets. SAS2025.com will have

01:15:54.460 thousands and thousands of people there, nearly 10,000 people. And I want to try to bring unity

01:15:59.060 to this movement because we have so much more together that divides us. I know that sounds

01:16:03.120 so just cliche, but it's true. We have a real enemy, which is the American left. And I think we should

01:16:09.120 try to introduce some new rules that we should, with great spirit and great energy, debate foreign

01:16:15.700 policy. But let's stay outside of the name calling, right? I don't think that helps us at all. I think

01:16:20.320 the left found some enjoyment in it. But I'm all for, like, you know, a unscripted, full, no-holds-barred

01:16:29.000 rhetorical melee about what the foreign policy agenda of the American right should be.

01:16:34.380 I personally, I tried to stay out of it. And I think that because of that, at least our podcast

01:16:40.700 was more popular than ever this week. Megan, we were right up there, right behind the New York

01:16:45.000 Times and three on the Apple News because we were one of the few shows that wasn't getting into,

01:16:50.240 well, I hate this person. I hate that person. We were just presenting it from a very fair,

01:16:54.560 neutral, pro-Trump, pro-American perspective.

01:16:58.020 Mm-hmm. Well, I think you're right. I mean, we too don't choose sides in these wars. To me,

01:17:03.540 it's very important to be able to have access to both sides and to be able to fairly present both

01:17:09.220 sides' arguments and let the audience decide. But there is one side that I'm very against on

01:17:14.440 anything related to President Trump, and that's the left. Here's the John Kerry takeaway on what

01:17:21.000 happened in Iran Saturday. It's unbelievable. I mean, it's believable, but it's unbelievable

01:17:25.800 how cynical and negative these people are, no matter how stunning the accomplishment. Here he is,

01:17:33.700 Sot29.

01:17:35.520 Iran is a proud, proud, proud nation. One of the things I learned in my negotiations was the level

01:17:42.540 of pride was just enormous. They also have been committed to the destruction of Israel. That's

01:17:50.980 a cultural, almost religious component of their policy. But I know this. You cannot bomb away

01:17:59.980 the memory of how to make a bomb. You can't bomb away the knowledge that they have developed. You

01:18:06.880 can't bomb away, you know, the broad array of technicians who've been working on this for years.

01:18:12.860 Actually, you can bomb away the broad array of technicians. Israel did it. They executed them

01:18:19.220 man by man. But what a takeaway. Like, it was all a waste. Instead, what we need is more negotiation.

01:18:26.780 That's really what he's saying, Charlie. We need the Obama-Iran deal that he negotiated that allowed

01:18:32.660 them openly to continue pursuing their nuclear program, not to mention to proliferate their ballistic

01:18:38.700 missile program like it was going out of style with boatloads of cash from the American taxpayers

01:18:45.580 to supplement it. He's mad that he's being embarrassed because the entire Obama approach

01:18:52.180 to Iran was wrong. But let me just first comment, like, what a relic from the past, like John Kerry.

01:18:57.180 I haven't heard from him for six years. Every time I hear John Kerry, I think of President Trump's

01:19:01.820 comedy routine about John Kerry on the bike. Do you remember that? For like three years,

01:19:05.720 he wouldn't stop talking about how John Kerry can't ride a bike. He says, what are you doing

01:19:09.440 riding a bike at that age? It's like one of the funniest kind of Trump schticks.

01:19:14.340 Say we have to have the hostages back. They will say no. You leave the room and you double up the

01:19:19.940 sanctions. Within 48 hours, you'll have your hostages back. Believe me. But they didn't do that.

01:19:24.720 Kerry never walked. The only time he walked is when he entered a bicycle race. Can you believe this guy?

01:19:29.200 73 years old. It's real. He fell off his bicycle and he broke his leg and he was out of the

01:19:34.320 negotiation for three or four weeks. And they probably did better in the negotiation when he

01:19:40.340 wasn't there. Anyway, back to Kerry. This is a lesser reported element. Trump tried diplomacy first.

01:19:50.140 He did. To his great credit, there was a 60-day diplomatic window and Iran decided to kind of do

01:19:56.840 the tap, tap, tap along. And on day 61, President Trump took Israel off the leash. He said the

01:20:03.440 negotiations aren't going anywhere. You guys act how you guys want to act. John Kerry, the biggest

01:20:09.340 problem and the biggest criticism that we can issue to John Kerry and Obama was that they allowed Iran

01:20:16.720 to remain cash flow positive. Then they could use that money to develop ballistic missiles and then use

01:20:24.260 that money to then develop a nuclear program. The money was used for pernicious and sinister

01:20:29.900 purposes. President Trump cut off the money, which gave him more leverage and negotiating power.

01:20:35.300 But yeah, I mean, John Kerry's actually half right. The Persian people are a proud people.

01:20:41.340 The problem is the mullahs are an ideological regime. They are. They are. They are not pragmatic.

01:20:47.220 They don't want what's best for the Persian people. They want some sort of weird international

01:20:51.640 Shia Muslim takeover of the world, which involves the eradication of Israel, which they call the

01:20:58.160 Zionist oppressor. And then on top of that, they just outright threaten the abolition of Israel.

01:21:03.800 They evidently, through their actions, are willing to send missiles towards civilian centers there.

01:21:09.780 And so John Kerry's just super mad that Donald Trump got done in 12 days what he was not able to do

01:21:15.220 in eight years under Obama. Here is part of the Iranian regime's constitution. Okay. In the organization

01:21:25.560 and equipping of the country's defense forces, there must be regard for faith and religion as the basis

01:21:29.880 and rules, their basis and rules. And so the Islamic Republic's army and the Corps of Revolutionary Guards

01:21:35.600 must be organized in accordance with this aim. They have responsibility not only for the safeguarding of

01:21:40.060 the frontiers, but also for a religious mission, which is holy war, jihad along the way of God and

01:21:46.100 the struggle to extend the supremacy of God's law in the world against them. Make ready your strength

01:21:51.360 to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies of

01:21:56.560 God and your enemies and others beside. This is quotation from the Arabic. Ayaan Hirsi Ali sent that to me

01:22:02.320 and her. It was a reminder of what they actually stand for, just like Hamas, which is

01:22:06.580 the elimination of the infidel starting with Israel. But America's close second. So it's you're exactly

01:22:14.460 right. The Iranian people like Yashar Ali, who's a great follow on Twitter and a great reporter

01:22:18.520 and is Iranian by birth, has been tweeting about this. There are absolutely lovely people in Iran

01:22:23.660 who actually we could totally get along with who want to have some. Yeah, they want to have. I totally

01:22:28.260 agree. They want to raise their family and peace. They don't want to be a war with the world. But the

01:22:31.580 regime, it's a nonstarter. They cannot be negotiated with. Really, they only understand

01:22:36.500 force. And now they understand it in a particularly unique way. All right, let's move on because we got

01:22:41.240 to talk about the fact that New York is becoming a communist Bolshevik town. It's incredible. I'm

01:22:48.960 sorry. I've lived in New York state for 50 years and only recently moved to Connecticut and New York

01:22:55.300 City for 17. I can't believe they've done this. How did we go from Giuliani, Bloomberg, crossover

01:23:03.300 de Blasio and Adams to a socialist who now is very likely to win because anybody who gets the

01:23:09.760 Democratic nomination wins? Now, it's true. Some people will organize against him. Some New York

01:23:14.640 business leaders are very scared. Some Jews in New York are very scared that this guy who defended

01:23:19.280 globalize the Intifada recently on a podcast at the dispatch is their next likely mayor.

01:23:25.480 So they could potentially organize now in a way they didn't before the primary to stop him.

01:23:29.440 But if you had to put money on it, you'd have to put it on this guy becoming the next mayor.

01:23:33.500 What does this say about New York and our country?

01:23:38.000 Well, a lot. And I'm going to push the envelope a little bit, Megan. So you have to give me and you

01:23:42.580 can push back at any time. So I think it's very important. I saw you're in trouble with Jessica

01:23:46.940 Tarlov of Fox News on the Internet. Well, yeah, I'm going to say it here on air because I just like

01:23:50.920 I don't hide from my opinions. But yes, I'll and you can push back and disagree. But and I'll give

01:23:55.000 all the proper caveats, which, of course, I believe in. But yes, the socialism part is very important.

01:23:59.420 I mean, he has like some of the dumbest ideas imaginable, which we're going to have city run

01:24:03.020 grocery stores. Yeah, that works really well in Cuba. Bring back bread lines. Right. Mom, Donnie,

01:24:07.900 2025. And obviously wants to tax the rich. He wants to take more money away from people. All that's super bad.

01:24:13.220 He wants to defund the police. He's on the record saying defund the police. He wants to send

01:24:16.600 social workers instead of cops. But like we need to also understand and we have to be very delicate

01:24:21.940 how we talk about this. And I'll give all the proper caveats. Right. My not every not every

01:24:27.240 Muslim is bad. A lot of Muslims are really decent and good people. My primary care doctor is actually

01:24:32.960 Muslim. I've endorsed someone running for office as a Muslim. Zutty Jasser here in Arizona. So we all

01:24:38.960 know individually good Muslims. But we also must kind of take pause and say, wait a second.

01:24:43.680 The two financial power centers of the West are obviously London and New York. And are we really

01:24:50.480 going to have two Muslim mayors of the major financial power centers of the West? Like,

01:24:56.740 let's just take a pause and take a step back and like, what does that say and what does that mean?

01:25:01.020 And people say, well, it's irrelevant that he's Muslim. Well, you've said it best. He wants to

01:25:05.180 globalize the intifada. He's and by the way, that just means globalized terrorism. He is the first

01:25:11.440 mayoral candidate of any significance to say that he and he supports sanctions of Israel.

01:25:18.100 I want you to understand that that is America's most Jewish city, New York, and he wants to

01:25:23.740 sanction Israel. And we're not allowed to mention that he's also Muslim. Like, I'm sorry, like that

01:25:29.100 actually matters a lot. And he should be put on the record and ask questions about not just his

01:25:35.420 faith, but also do you think that it's good that we're continually importing hundreds of thousands

01:25:40.800 of people that don't import our values? And you look at Ilan Omar. Is Ilan Omar a good example of

01:25:46.660 someone that has pride and patriotism and gratitude for our country? It's not a good track record so far.

01:25:52.980 And from Mondani, you're seeing someone that has resentment driven politics, super bad economics,

01:25:59.140 terrible economics. But dare I also say a radical cultural orthodoxy that is going to be introduced

01:26:06.460 into America's largest city, one that will not make it a safe place for Jews, not a safe place

01:26:12.080 increasingly, I think, for Western values and potentially Christians. And to say that you are

01:26:16.740 in favor of boycotting, divesting and sanctioning Israel in America's most Jewish city. And it's just

01:26:22.620 a coincidence that that guy happens to be Muslim. Yeah, I think that's complete rubbish. And final

01:26:27.680 point I'll say is this, is that London is a captured city. I don't know if you've been there recently,

01:26:33.320 Megan, but it is a husk of its former self. It is terrible. And I don't like the fact that I go to

01:26:40.100 Piccadilly Square and I see more Arabic than I see English, that I see more stores that are Yemen,

01:26:47.880 Omani, Saudi Arabian. That is a conquered and a captured country. And Mondani has to run on his

01:26:55.160 own merits. He's his own individual person. But he has not given any indication that he is anything

01:27:01.120 but a radical socialist and someone that is trying to continue the Mohammedan march in the West.

01:27:10.160 Individual Muslims can be great members of American society. We all know them.

01:27:14.900 But in the macro, in the big picture, are we really benefiting the more that we are importing

01:27:21.020 Islamists into the West? I say no. And I think we should have a lot of caution making a Muslim

01:27:27.600 socialist the mayor of America's largest city. And I know I'm in trouble for saying that, but

01:27:33.380 I'll double down on it because I think that there comes with a lot of baggage and a lot of trouble.

01:27:38.080 Right. The response to not your argument, but it's been your feelings have been espoused by others,

01:27:45.000 including Benny Johnson, who said he tweeted New York City in 2001. We'll never forget after,

01:27:49.940 you know, the World Trade Center, New York City in 2025 elects Muslim jihadist.

01:27:54.580 That's not what you called him. You did not call him this guy.

01:27:57.240 No, I see for the record. I never said that. Yeah, you did not say that. And I like Benny a lot,

01:28:01.560 but I did not say that. Yeah. But here's here's how Ryan James Gordowski responded to Benny.

01:28:06.080 He says it's a low IQ hot take. He says Mandani is not a jihadist. Sure. He hates Jews and supports

01:28:12.680 a global movement to kill them because he's OK with the globalize the intifada chance. But he's

01:28:18.740 also about queer liberation and women's rights. This is true. He's just an identity based socialist

01:28:24.820 where your value is connected to your race. I mean, that's the thing, like the true radical jihadis

01:28:31.220 are not out there at pride parades and wanting to make a major part of their platform,

01:28:37.920 pride rights and free trans surgeries for minors, which is part of Mandani's promise.

01:28:44.980 That's a good point. Right. So I agree. He's an odd jihadi if he's a jihadi, according to Benny

01:28:49.660 Johnson. And I like Benny a lot. I would not and I won't say anything negative about him. I wouldn't

01:28:54.020 use the word jihadi. And but I will say, though, he has hatred for the West. And that's that we can all

01:28:59.320 agree upon. Where does that hatred come from? Yeah. Does it come from his radical professor

01:29:03.840 father? Does it come from the Shia Islam that he believes in? But we don't quite know. Let me just

01:29:10.360 ask you about this. I accept that. But does he hate it any more than the white Upper West Side

01:29:15.540 women who surrounded me when I know that's voting for him? Totally. No, I agree. And I think,

01:29:21.580 though, that he now represents should we import more people like him that obviously have. I mean,

01:29:27.080 again, he was, I think, born here. I don't know. Or did he? No, he was born. I don't know. He was

01:29:31.640 born in Kenya or something. We just went over this. No, you got Ghana, Ghana, Ghana, Ghana, Ghana,

01:29:37.540 Ghana, Uganda, Uganda, Uganda. Yeah. And so has this guy been a great picture of American assimilation?

01:29:44.700 No. And that that is the tragic truth of far too much Muslim immigration to the West. You see it in

01:29:50.880 Rotterdam. You see it in Paris. You see it in London. You see it across Germany. Is that the

01:29:56.240 Islamist world does not assimilate well to the Western world? In fact, they create their own

01:30:01.780 pockets of no go zones. They tried to take over City Hall, as you could see evidence in London and

01:30:07.360 Rotterdam. They tried to create own areas of their kind of Sharia type law and radical Islam. I don't

01:30:14.540 know if that's what Mamdani will do, but I know this. It doesn't matter because he is a perfect

01:30:19.120 personification of what we call the red green axis. The red green axis is Marxism and Mohammedism

01:30:26.460 that come together to destroy the West. And he is an agreeable spot for that. There's a lot of Muslims

01:30:32.300 in New York. And there's a lot of also, to your point, white upper upper East side, middle, you know,

01:30:38.260 a high income earners that believe have luxury beliefs that want to whatever reason, see the

01:30:42.920 suicide of New York City. What is shocking is that the richer you are in New York City, the more likely you

01:30:47.940 are to support Mamdani. The poorer you are, the more likely you were to support Cuomo.

01:30:52.540 And so blacks and poor people in New York voted for Cuomo and whites voted for Mamdani.

01:31:00.440 It's amazing. I think there is just the point is this, is that it's obvious he hates the West.

01:31:07.140 Where does that come from? I don't know. Now, if his name was Clark Smith, he might have the same

01:31:11.980 sort of radicalism. But I do think that there is a pattern recognition that for whatever reason,

01:31:16.740 people get really mad when you mention, which is like, wait a second, we now have Sadiq Khan,

01:31:21.340 we have Ilan Omar, we have Rashida Tlaib, and now Mamdani. And none of these people have nice

01:31:26.160 things to say about Western civilization. And either they or their parents are here on invitation only

01:31:31.900 to the West. That is the distinction. We have made a conscious decision to bring millions of people

01:31:39.300 from the Middle East or Muslims into America. Has that worked? Is it a good thing? Is it improving

01:31:44.240 New York? Has this guy been a shining beacon of assimilation and adopting American values?

01:31:49.240 Or is he an insurgent against New York City to try to break it down, make it into a poor version of

01:31:56.820 Gotham? And so I want to make sure everyone in the audience understands there are some good Muslims out

01:32:03.800 there, obviously. But as Islam has crept its way into the power centers of the West, it has not materially

01:32:10.240 improved our life. In fact, it's done the exact opposite. And that's being done intentionally.

01:32:17.140 It's being done intentionally. That's the point. And that's why I think it's important that I push

01:32:20.820 the envelope a little bit on this. I understand. I totally get it. Totally get it. This video,

01:32:25.580 I've done years, years in coverage of coverage of these radical jihadis and radical Islamists and who

01:32:32.440 they are. And Ayan has been my best teacher on all of it. I mean, just read any book she's written,

01:32:37.820 read any article she's written. She's read, she's lived it firsthand. Okay. But what their goal

01:32:45.580 is not a secret. You actually don't have to spend much time looking at this to know what their goal

01:32:50.700 is. This video is making the rounds on X. It's from 1990. And it's someone speaking on behalf of

01:32:56.900 the Muslim Brotherhood, a woman talking about the goals for infiltration in American cities.

01:33:02.700 American melting pot. We do not want to melt into American society and disappear. We want to go into

01:33:11.160 American society with Islamic ideals and revamp their thinking. We want to revamp them. We want

01:33:16.580 to turn them into Muslim individuals. We shouldn't have feelings of distaste for them or intolerance

01:33:23.240 because they're potential Muslim. Education is one of the most important areas that Muslims have to

01:33:28.320 address. And while our objective, our final objective is not just to become part of the system

01:33:35.480 that we experience now and that we see, our objective, our final objective is to create our

01:33:41.120 own Islamic systems and not only create Islamic systems for Muslims, but to look at all the other

01:33:47.500 people who are sharing this country with us as potential Muslims. And in that long range process

01:33:54.140 of making America Muslim, all of America Muslim. Yeah. So it's not a secret.

01:34:02.480 It's not a secret. And the most important data point is that has this improved the West? Are we

01:34:10.280 more united? Are we talking about things of prosperity and abundance and unity? Has this been about like a

01:34:17.040 return to American values? Or does this feel kind of like an insurgency campaign that we have

01:34:22.900 voluntarily invited into our society? And again, so not, so people are going to attack me. My primary

01:34:30.300 care doctor is Muslim. I've endorsed him for running for office, all that stuff. But when we look at our

01:34:35.760 immigration policy, a immigration policy that continues to bring people in that don't assimilate

01:34:42.880 and they don't, I've said this before and it drives people nuts and I don't care. Islam is not

01:34:47.780 compatible Western civilization. Fundamentally, Islam is at war with freedom of speech, with freedom of

01:34:53.460 worship, with freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, and separation of mosque and state.

01:34:59.180 They don't believe in a separation of mosque and state. That's why so many of them are running for

01:35:03.040 office, is that at its core, Islam is about power. The greatest man ever to live in the telling of

01:35:10.340 Islam is a desert warlord. It's not a criticism. It's just a fact. And so as there, as we're looking

01:35:16.860 at this as Westerners, we should, we should just, Jessica Tarloff calls me an Islamophobe. And my

01:35:21.820 response was like, please stop using thought terminating cliches and let's just have a

01:35:25.240 discussion about this. Okay. It's not about like being like, is it good for us? Has it improved

01:35:31.160 our life? Do we want this to continue? Is this the best we can do? Is London doing better since

01:35:37.820 Sadiq Khan took over? No, actually they're doing far worse. The UK is a divided, sad,

01:35:44.800 just somber museum is basically what it is. And so, well, listen to this. So, so I'm just going

01:35:51.000 to add to it. Laura Ingram tweeted this out. It's, it's a related point, which I think is what you're

01:35:55.640 trying to say. She wrote, you think New York city's turn to socialism and communism is just a

01:35:59.960 New York thing. It's not uncontrolled immigration greenlit since the 1980s by the uni party is remaking

01:36:06.360 every American community. We imported anti Americanism, cultivated it in schools. Now comes

01:36:13.460 the poisonous crop. And on top of that, you get, you know, so Zoran's, um, you know, tweets from the

01:36:21.780 past saying things like queer liberation means defund the police. He wants to open the prisons

01:36:28.620 and get rid of the cops. And we're supposed to believe he loves the country.

01:36:35.300 Exactly right. And this also goes to show that the open border is not the only immigration debate we

01:36:41.300 need to have on the right. We all agree an open border is bad. President Trump deserves just heroes

01:36:46.680 welcome every day that our border is secure. The real fight is going to be legal immigration

01:36:51.460 because mass migration, green cards, asylum seeking, the asylum scam. You could break chain

01:36:58.440 migration, family migration. That is how you get the downfall of your country via legal immigration.

01:37:05.160 It's remade the entire body politic. New York city and LA are basically foreign occupied cities.

01:37:10.720 The body politic themselves, many of the people were not born here. They don't speak the language.

01:37:15.400 And I am all for an orderly America first legal immigration policy. You are too, Megan.

01:37:20.320 People that love the country and they assimilate and they come here, but we see it. That's not what's

01:37:25.520 happening here. You're not seeing mass assimilation. You're seeing an embrace of values that are not

01:37:30.720 our own. You're seeing an embrace of ideas that are not Western. You're seeing an ever radicalism

01:37:36.780 seep through. And again, I just have to repeat this, which is America's largest city and most Jewish

01:37:42.540 city is going to elect a mayor that wants to sanction the state of Israel that wants to arrest

01:37:48.420 Netanyahu. If he were to come to New York, he's on the record saying that recently, just for the

01:37:52.880 record. That's what I'm done. So I'm supposed to say mom. Oh, mom. It has nothing to do with mom.

01:37:57.420 Donnie being Muslim. Oh, the guy that wants to arrest the prime minister of Israel. If he comes to a UN

01:38:01.940 meeting. Yeah. And things like that has nothing to do with him being Muslim. I'm, I'm here for it.

01:38:07.020 Let's, let's talk about it here. Listen to this. This plate, this played out a bit on CNN last night

01:38:13.520 between joy Reed, who was over there as a guest commentator and our pal Arthur Idala, who not

01:38:18.000 only is a brilliant trial attorney, but is a lifelong New Yorker from Brooklyn and still lives in Brooklyn

01:38:23.440 life lifelong. And take a listen to that exchange. So 38. Your evidence that mom Donnie would return

01:38:31.020 New York city to the 1970s hell hole time square. What is your evidence? It's very simple. So he

01:38:38.300 wants to raise taxes on people who make the most money with the eventually is going to happen is

01:38:42.460 you're going to lose that tax base. Once you lose that tax base, our bonds will get degraded. Now the

01:38:48.180 city, the city budget will not be substantial enough to, to subsidize not only the cops, but the fire

01:38:54.320 department, the sanitation department. Once you start losing wall street and people who pay 11,

01:39:00.420 $12,000 a month to live on the people like joy, we don't get that. I can't believe she's back on

01:39:08.520 TV. I had no idea. It's amazing. Uh, I thought she was completely, totally discredited. Um, anyway,

01:39:13.240 that's a whole separate note, but yes, she doesn't get it. And honestly, like, that's a good argument.

01:39:17.940 I, I think that's fine. The best argument is like, he wants to get rid of police and send social

01:39:23.000 workers. He wants to open up the prisons. He wants to have cities. He wants to get rid of private

01:39:26.580 health insurance, by the way. But the more we learn about this guy, the more we're going

01:39:30.380 to understand he is about destabilization is like, if you put together a plan of like,

01:39:34.840 how do we turn New York into a hell hole? And here's the key. What happens after a hell hole?

01:39:40.260 Well, you need a powerful then totalitarian, which is a perfect gateway to his dream, which

01:39:46.500 is he wants to try to create a total mess. And then he can assume more power, not with police

01:39:51.220 and not with the actual power that government should have, but kind of a soft totalitarianism

01:39:55.860 like we see in London, where everyone's afraid to speak their mind, where there's the speech

01:40:00.080 police and there's potential blast literally getting arrested over there for, for speaking

01:40:04.120 your mind, just for the wrong opinions, literally getting arrested.

01:40:07.940 And, and, and so, and mom, Donnie, again, I'll just have to repeat. He wants to globalize

01:40:11.940 the intifada. He wants to globalize terrorism. And so we as Westerners should be unafraid to

01:40:17.160 say, wait, these are foreign ideas into our world and we don't like it.

01:40:22.680 So, okay, wait, let me take the last 60 seconds on Andrew Cuomo because the Democrat party is to

01:40:28.080 blame for this debacle. Why did you feel the need to resurrect a tired, worn sex pest, old grandma

01:40:35.900 killing loser Democrat who had already exploited the system $5 million to write his book about how

01:40:41.680 great he is. He was already a failure. Can you do no better? You can't find a young, vibrant Democrat

01:40:47.540 who's not a fucking loon to run against this kind of a man so that we can prevent the, his

01:40:52.680 ascension and save America's and the world's greatest city. They're to blame for all of this.

01:40:58.820 I totally agree. And I guess we're all behind Eric Adams now. Like, okay, I guess like he's not been a

01:41:04.760 good mayor, I guess, but I mean, Curtis, I, I, I, I don't know if there's any chance for Curtis. I

01:41:11.480 don't know. I don't know your politics that well. I don't think so. I guess it's all about Eric Adams,

01:41:15.900 but again, let it be a wake up call everybody. And I encourage everyone in the audience have

01:41:20.600 the courage to call out what you know to be true. It's not like Islamophobic to say that you want to

01:41:26.260 have some caution when a foreign ideology all of a sudden wants to be mayor of America's largest and

01:41:33.000 once greatest city. Yeah. Look what's happening in London. You don't have to go far to find out

01:41:38.120 what's happening. Charlie Kirk, always a pleasure, my friend. Great to see you. And I'll see you in July.

01:41:42.120 Great to see you. God bless. Thank you. Look forward to it. Okay. We are back tomorrow with

01:41:46.400 the fellas of ruthless. We'll see all of you guys. Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - June 25, 2025

Media Spreads False Iran Leaks, Trump Gets NATO Results, and Socialist Wins NYC Primary, with Speaker Mike Johnson and Charlie Kirk ｜ Ep. 1095

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