The Megyn Kelly Show - Megyn Goes Behind-The-Scenes of Her Trump Rally Speech, Plus Key States to Watch, with Henry Olsen

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00:00:41.620 And we will be covering all the election news results with instant analysis and reaction.

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00:00:53.100 Later today on this show, I'm going to be taking your calls and I'll give you a behind-the-scenes look at my time with Donald Trump last night.

00:01:02.860 His final Pennsylvania rally last night, his penultimate rally of his last campaign ever.

00:01:11.300 What an experience.

00:01:12.660 He just voted and we saw a video of him down in Palm Beach voting with Melania and said, this is going to be his last campaign.

00:01:21.460 So if he wins, obviously he can't run again.

00:01:25.100 And if he loses, he's saying outright he's not going to go for it again.

00:01:28.420 I mean, he would be 82 four years from now.

00:01:31.740 So it's kind of interesting.

00:01:33.280 You know, when I talked to him last night, I talked to his family, Eric, Trump, and Laura.

00:01:38.200 Don Jr. was there as well, but I didn't actually speak with him.

00:01:40.680 But there was a sense of he's really going to miss campaigning, I think.

00:01:46.700 You know, I think Trump really loves getting out there with people.

00:01:50.800 And you could see he, you could tell he was going to miss them.

00:01:55.640 You know, I think if he, obviously if he wins today, he'll be thrilled to spend as much time as possible with the American people.

00:02:01.280 He's not an introvert, as you know.

00:02:03.460 He's not somebody who shies away from being with people.

00:02:06.540 But I think he actually was feeling a little sad that the campaign piece of it was ending.

00:02:13.720 And I understood it.

00:02:15.840 Even talking to Eric Trump, it was like, I get it.

00:02:18.600 I think his biggest fans feel it too.

00:02:21.880 There are, what does Trump call them, front row Joes.

00:02:25.740 These guys who follow him everywhere.

00:02:27.760 They go to all the rallies.

00:02:29.500 I mean, think about it.

00:02:30.220 It's like a rock band.

00:02:31.440 It's like having roadies, you know.

00:02:33.400 And he performs for them.

00:02:35.820 One of the things I noticed last night was he was going to tell the story.

00:02:39.200 He said, oh, I already told it at an earlier rally.

00:02:41.660 You know, I try not to repeat.

00:02:44.260 Think about that.

00:02:45.080 He did four rallies yesterday.

00:02:46.400 He tries not to repeat.

00:02:48.280 How?

00:02:49.180 He goes on for an hour and a half.

00:02:51.280 He has endless energy.

00:02:53.900 And he tries to make each one special or different, which is very generous of him to the audience.

00:03:01.540 It would be far easier to have a 45-minute teleprompter speech, show up, read it with enthusiasm, and leave.

00:03:09.700 That's not him.

00:03:12.040 He loves being there.

00:03:14.580 He loves the interaction.

00:03:16.380 He loves putting on a show, saying shocking things, being funny.

00:03:22.120 We were just laughing.

00:03:23.820 We went.

00:03:25.720 Doug came, too.

00:03:26.920 And our kids came.

00:03:28.720 And the five of us went.

00:03:29.620 It was the first Trump rally we'd ever been to.

00:03:32.560 And it was just extraordinary.

00:03:34.380 There really was, like, a strong bond in the air.

00:03:37.620 You could feel it between the audience and Trump.

00:03:40.100 Both ways.

00:03:40.900 It wasn't just their adoration for him.

00:03:42.760 It was his respect and love for them.

00:03:45.500 Anyway, a little bit more on that after our first guest today, because I really have been wanting to talk to this guy.

00:03:50.540 And I'm going to bring him to you, and then we'll pick this conversation up about last night.

00:03:54.240 And today, on the back end of our conversation, with Henry Olson.

00:03:58.000 He's senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and host of the Beyond the Polls podcast.

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00:04:58.780 Henry, thank you so much for being here.

00:05:00.560 So you are in the predictions business and in the polling business and are not too afraid to put your neck out there.

00:05:09.680 And tell us what you are predicting.

00:05:11.300 Now it's election day, so it's very dangerous to be predicting.

00:05:14.480 But tell us what you're predicting in your final poll.

00:05:16.240 Yeah, I like to say that I put my neck on the chopping block and I'm waiting for the guillotine to come down.

00:05:22.500 It's going to be close, but I've got Harris up in the popular vote by about a point and some tenths.

00:05:30.200 But Trump up in the electoral college by 297 to 241.

00:05:34.020 That he's going to win six of the seven swing states.

00:05:37.460 And he could win the seventh.

00:05:38.880 Michigan is the hardest nut for him to crack.

00:05:41.560 But I think that if everything goes according to plan, that we'll know who the president is on Wednesday morning and that president will be Donald Trump.

00:05:50.780 Wow.

00:05:51.180 All right.

00:05:51.480 So walk us through it, because it seems in reading your analysis, you think Georgia and I think North Carolina are going to be the two most important.

00:06:00.360 And that's a very solid and important base for Trump.

00:06:02.880 Oh, absolutely.

00:06:05.800 The way to think about it is that Georgia and North Carolina are the center of the chessboard.

00:06:11.620 He carried North Carolina narrowly last time.

00:06:14.120 We all know how narrowly he lost Georgia.

00:06:16.620 But if he's able to do that this time, carry both of them, he has three separate and independent paths to get to the presidency.

00:06:24.780 He wins Pennsylvania and he wins those two plus everything else he won.

00:06:29.360 Boom.

00:06:29.820 He's at 270.

00:06:30.640 He gets Michigan and Nevada.

00:06:33.840 Boom.

00:06:34.200 He's at 272.

00:06:36.180 He gets Arizona and Wisconsin.

00:06:39.400 Boom.

00:06:39.860 He's over 270 again.

00:06:41.500 Three separate ways.

00:06:42.880 So if he can get those two southeastern states, it's kind of like he's got a big lead in the middle of the third quarter.

00:06:49.120 And then he's just got to see whether he can get that over the goal line.

00:06:53.420 She's not seeding North Carolina, that's for sure.

00:06:56.300 She's not technically seeding Georgia, but she seems not to have been focused on it lately.

00:07:00.640 Unlike North Carolina, where she was not yesterday.

00:07:03.860 Yesterday, she had, I think, four or five rallies in Pennsylvania.

00:07:06.680 The day before that, she was in North Carolina, too.

00:07:09.280 So she's not giving up on North Carolina.

00:07:10.920 Even though there were reports last week, she pulled a $2 million ad buy out of that state.

00:07:15.660 Not sure why she pulled it.

00:07:16.920 North Carolina did go Trump two times in a row, even when Biden won.

00:07:22.240 And yet the demographics are changing.

00:07:24.560 It's becoming bluer.

00:07:26.220 So how does that factor into your polls?

00:07:30.400 You know, it is getting more bluer because people moving into the state.

00:07:36.640 But then you've got to balance that with what we know about or what the polls are saying is happening in the African-American community, is that if Trump really does get 15, 16, 17 percent of the black vote as opposed to 9 percent, they're a large share of the Democratic base there.

00:07:53.900 That means that Trump's margin from 2020 goes up by two points or more just because of the shift in the black vote.

00:08:02.980 So that more than offsets the demographic advantage of having more out-of-staters move in.

00:08:09.400 And you can see Trump focusing on that.

00:08:11.180 He had two rallies in North Carolina in 60 percent plus African-American communities.

00:08:16.940 I can't remember in my lifetime a Republican candidate spending the last two weeks of the presidential campaign in heavily African-American communities in the South.

00:08:28.020 They wouldn't do that if they didn't see that they had the numbers and that they wanted to make sure that that's there because if it's there, North Carolina should be for the taking.

00:08:37.060 An interesting update from Raleigh News and Observer in North Carolina about the counties impacted out in the western part of the state by the hurricane, Hurricane Helene.

00:08:48.440 According to the paper, turnout in these 25 western counties was stronger than the rest of the state in the early vote at 58.9 percent, about 2 percent higher than statewide turnout, which is amazing given all the worries we had about whether those poor folks dealing with enough were going to be able to get their vote.

00:09:06.580 This seems, anecdotally, to be following a pattern we're seeing at least in Nevada, North Carolina, and maybe it's other states too, of big numbers out of rural communities, which is considered to be good for Trump.

00:09:23.260 It's pretty much everywhere you're looking at with early voting in Trump-friendly communities, rural communities, but also Republican suburban communities is up.

00:09:34.000 You know, you take a look at Nevada, Democrats typically lead the early vote there.

00:09:38.880 Over 40,000 more registered Republicans have voted early in Nevada.

00:09:43.160 That's the first time in at least 20 years.

00:09:46.800 Over 200,000 more Republicans have voted early in Arizona.

00:09:52.740 Democrats led that four years ago.

00:09:55.620 Democrats led the North Carolina early vote by over 150,000 people a few years ago.

00:10:02.180 More Republicans voted early.

00:10:04.180 So it's not just rural, it's Republican.

00:10:06.640 And that's been repeated across the country, and Democrats have to hope for a big Election Day turnout, or this could be much worse than they think it's going to be.

00:10:14.120 Okay, so in Georgia, too, the numbers are that active voters are turning out early in rural Georgia.

00:10:21.740 So we said that was true in North Carolina, it's true in Nevada.

00:10:24.260 Here's the update.

00:10:25.000 Georgia active voters turning out early in rural Georgia, more so than Democrat-leaning urban areas around Atlanta, so far, at least.

00:10:35.660 I mean, here's the thing, though.

00:10:37.460 So you hear about all this surge in the rural communities and Republicans showing up to do early voting in greater numbers than ever before.

00:10:46.080 And then on the other side, you hear about the surge in women.

00:10:49.740 Women are outvoting men already.

00:10:52.340 We saw that.

00:10:53.880 It's some—is it—I'm trying to remember the latest numbers.

00:10:56.380 It was 52 to—52 percent, was it?

00:10:58.860 I'm trying to get it, but it was 52 or 55 percent of the vote so far has been female that, you know, you might assume is bad, though.

00:11:06.840 I know she's got the gender gap with women in her favor, but not all women are Democrats.

00:11:11.980 So what do you make of that?

00:11:13.140 Because it's not unusual to have more women in the electorate.

00:11:18.200 No, I mean, we know that because women live longer, that women—more women will vote than men, that usually 52 percent of the national electorate will be female.

00:11:29.140 But the key thing is not looking at how many women have voted early in an absolute.

00:11:33.520 It's comparing it to the past, is they say that Dobbs has created this female groundswell that's going to turn millions of women into voters.

00:11:43.960 And the fact is, the female share of the vote in North Carolina is basically unchanged from four years ago.

00:11:51.780 The female share of the vote in Georgia is up a couple of tenths of a percent.

00:11:56.180 This is not a groundswell.

00:11:57.660 This is normal Election Day voting that's taking place.

00:12:02.480 So we're not seeing evidence of what the Democrats are talking about in this early vote.

00:12:07.740 Women are voting at about the same rate that they voted in the past.

00:12:11.760 And that's just inconsistent with this, oh my gosh, Gobs was the earthquake that shook American politics argument that they're trying to make to analysts and pundits.

00:12:22.240 Well, how do you square that with what the New York Times reported about Pennsylvania, about how Democrats were feeling giddy about some alleged new surge in voter registrations for young women, Democrats?

00:12:33.840 Yeah, so it's a little complicated, but this one word summation of that is overrated.

00:12:43.980 So let me go through the complicated part.

00:12:46.960 What they showed is that 35,000 or so people who didn't vote in 2020 are female Democrats, and that's a significant number.

00:12:56.680 But when you add the female and the male votes together and you add the Democrats and you add the female and the male votes Republican, it's a net 19,000 vote gain.

00:13:07.780 That's not much in a state that will cast 7 million votes.

00:13:11.280 And then what's more telling, I think, is that among the registered independents, there's no difference in turnout rate between men and women.

00:13:18.520 So what that means is that, yes, female Democrats are turning out, but we also know that the Democratic Party is more female than male.

00:13:26.620 One analyst said that those Pennsylvania numbers simply reflected the fact that 60 percent of the Democratic Party is female now.

00:13:32.820 And if you were going to have a big Dobbs effect, wouldn't you expect that registered independent women would be surging out to vote?

00:13:41.280 That's not happening in Pennsylvania.

00:13:42.840 It's not happening anywhere.

00:13:44.860 Again, this is spin.

00:13:46.600 These are not facts.

00:13:48.400 That's so interesting.

00:13:49.560 I mean, it was, of course, the New York Times reporting that.

00:13:51.680 So it does make some sense.

00:13:52.960 And you haven't been seeing similar reports out of every state.

00:13:55.860 You know, some some pattern where you could say, oh, God, like 2022, the women are pissed off about Dobbs and they are going to the polls.

00:14:03.960 We're not really feeling that yet.

00:14:05.380 Other than that one New York Times report about Pennsylvania.

00:14:08.360 There is one other thing.

00:14:09.800 And that's the Iowa poll by Ann Seltzer, the Des Moines Register.

00:14:13.880 People treat this woman like she's Nostradamus.

00:14:16.700 And she said that Trump is down, that Harris is up three in red state, Iowa, in her final poll.

00:14:24.500 And she said it's because of women.

00:14:27.420 She said, in particular, older women who grew up with Roe v. Wade as the law of the land and are ticked off that it's been taken away saying, look, you know, we thought we dealt with this already.

00:14:39.280 And so the question was, you know, did she see something in the electorate that may be part of a pattern that no other pollster has seen?

00:14:49.300 Well, the thing is that states don't move independently of each other.

00:14:55.680 If this was happening, we'd be seeing it happening elsewhere.

00:14:59.160 You know, we'd be seeing it happen in the early vote, for example.

00:15:02.020 And the Iowa early vote does not show a massive Democratic or a massive female swing.

00:15:07.800 We'd be seeing it in things like the national congressional committees.

00:15:12.520 There are three congressional districts there that, if this were true, Democrats would pick up.

00:15:17.700 Instead, what you don't see is last-minute buys in one of the congressional districts.

00:15:22.760 What you don't see is data from other states that have similar demographies showing that type of swing.

00:15:29.480 In other words, what you have to believe, if you believe the seltzer poll, is that Iowa is this little petri dish all unto itself.

00:15:36.480 And she's the only one to have figured out that there's this chemical reaction going on.

00:15:42.120 And no other scientist doing similar experiments anywhere else has found this.

00:15:46.700 I suggest she just has a bad data set and that that's more likely the cause.

00:15:52.140 Because literally no other piece of data, either that we have or that we can infer from the way congressional committees are creating the campaigns or campaigns are sending their candidates around.

00:16:03.040 Don't you think that Kamala Harris would have sent Tim Walls to Iowa once if their data said they were going to pick up Iowa?

00:16:11.120 Every pollster has a bad poll from time to time.

00:16:14.180 I think this is ants.

00:16:15.820 Okay, very interesting.

00:16:17.260 So now what are you seeing in terms of the early vote?

00:16:20.720 Because people on Team Trump believe that we are seeing a relatively low turnout in the urban areas and potentially with black voters and a relatively high turnout in the rural areas.

00:16:34.580 And we assume those are mostly Trump voters.

00:16:37.320 Is that is that true?

00:16:39.280 Yeah.

00:16:39.420 We are seeing higher turnout than normal in rural areas that in Nevada, rural counties have much higher rates of early voting.

00:16:48.380 In Georgia, the rural counties have much higher rates of early voting.

00:16:52.200 In Virginia, this is kind of like my control of the experiment.

00:16:56.500 This is not a swing state.

00:16:57.820 But the most rural congressional district, congressional district nine, the most MAGA congressional district in the state has more early votes today than they had four years ago.

00:17:10.280 The African-American district, which is centered on Norfolk and Hampton Roads, congressional district three, has 60 percent of the early vote that it had four years ago.

00:17:19.980 You know, you take a look at the most African-American county in urban Atlanta, Clayton County.

00:17:25.660 It's got a much lower early vote than it had four years ago.

00:17:29.820 So these are trends that we're seeing.

00:17:31.900 African-Americans are much less likely to vote early than they were a few years ago.

00:17:36.280 Rural Republicans and rural voters generally are much more likely to vote early.

00:17:40.440 And a lot of them are new voters, too, is that Pennsylvania and Nevada and North Carolina allow same-day registration.

00:17:49.240 If you show up to vote in person in all three of those states, more people registered in October as Republicans than as Democrats because more new voters came out.

00:18:01.040 And that's an indication that they're not just cannibalizing the old voters.

00:18:04.180 They're adding new ones.

00:18:05.360 The enthusiasm is in the rural areas and the suburban areas for Republicans.

00:18:10.400 Lack of enthusiasm is in African-American areas for Democrats.

00:18:14.680 Wow.

00:18:14.840 All right.

00:18:15.300 So explain why that's good for Trump, because I think people are getting used to the narrative that Trump is doing much better with black men than any other Republican voter.

00:18:24.940 So is it just that the black vote overwhelmingly is still Democratic?

00:18:30.880 Yeah, that's exactly it.

00:18:32.040 Is that doing better means losing blacks by 60 instead of losing them by 80?

00:18:36.840 Now, that's a huge difference is that Georgia is Georgia is 30 percent black in the voting.

00:18:43.280 If it's a good night for Democrats, they will have 29, 30 percent of the electorate will be black.

00:18:48.060 You lose that by 10 points less.

00:18:50.520 That's 3 percent statewide.

00:18:52.260 That's the margin of error.

00:18:54.020 That's victory or defeat.

00:18:55.840 So losing by less is huge.

00:18:57.980 But if there are fewer blacks turning out, then every black person who doesn't turn out is like 70 percent or 80 percent likely to vote for Kamala Harris.

00:19:06.920 So that means they're losing votes with a low turnout, even though the people who turn out are likelier than the past to vote for Donald Trump.

00:19:15.200 So, you know, you always hope that everybody votes.

00:19:17.760 And it could very well be that African-Americans are streaming to the polls today as we speak.

00:19:22.500 But in the early vote total, it was very clear across the country that African-Americans are voting at lower rates than they did before.

00:19:30.640 And combined with a shift on the margin to Donald Trump, that is a very, very dangerous red light over the Harris campaign team bus.

00:19:41.220 We we haven't seen Jackie Henrich, a Fox News reporter, was pointing out on X that we haven't seen a lot of touting of the early vote stats, numbers, you know, demographics from team Harris.

00:19:56.680 And she was raising the point that normally they would like.

00:20:00.300 But the Biden White House knows how to tout promising data that they're seeing in polls.

00:20:05.140 I mean, they've been through this a few times.

00:20:06.460 And I thought that was kind of interesting because we are seeing a lot, some from the Trump war room, some from Elon Musk, who's very tight, of course, with Trump and has his own polling going.

00:20:17.300 I have to say, I saw some of the polling yesterday when I was with the Trump team.

00:20:23.740 I wonder if you read anything into that or if you take away the same conclusion as Jackie Henrich.

00:20:29.320 Yeah. Yeah. Look, I think the New York Times story that you cited earlier shows they know how to get their message out to their friends in the press.

00:20:43.380 The fact that you don't hear it means they don't have it.

00:20:47.000 Let's take Pennsylvania, for example.

00:20:48.780 In Pennsylvania, in 2020, because of COVID, there was a huge early vote.

00:20:53.500 Joe Biden won 1.4 million vote margin over Donald Trump in the early vote.

00:21:00.840 That offset a 1.3 million vote Election Day margin for Trump.

00:21:05.200 It's why Biden won.

00:21:06.860 2022, John Fetterman won the early vote by 700,000 over Dr. Oz.

00:21:14.380 That offset Dr. Oz's win on Election Day.

00:21:16.900 As of Monday, it looked like the Democrats had about a 400,000 vote early margin over Republicans.

00:21:25.180 Even if you assumed 100 percent of registered independents voted for Kamala Harris, that's a 600,000 vote early vote margin.

00:21:34.480 In other words, her expected early vote margin is 100,000 votes lower in Pennsylvania than John Fetterman's in a race that will have a million more voters.

00:21:44.240 That's why you don't hear the numbers.

00:21:46.020 That's a bad number for her, and they're not going to play it up.

00:21:49.880 And the Trump campaign has been doing its bit to talk about the truth about early voting, which is the data in every swing state are better for Republicans than they were two or four years ago.

00:22:03.100 We're not used to that.

00:22:04.580 We're just not used to hearing that at all.

00:22:06.680 My entire time covering these things for Fox revolved around Republicans only vote day of.

00:22:11.840 Yeah, that's not bad.

00:22:14.900 Well, I mean, it's not to say that Republicans will win the early vote in all these states.

00:22:18.980 Republicans will lose the early vote in Pennsylvania, but it's kind of like the black vote.

00:22:23.360 You know, if you lose the black vote by 15 points less, that's a net gain.

00:22:27.640 If Republicans come out of Pennsylvania only down 600,000 votes, that means the Democrats have to rely on election day turnout to win those votes back.

00:22:38.660 And if they can't get a record high or close to record high turnout, that means lack of enthusiasm is dooming their candidate.

00:22:45.720 A 600,000 vote margin should be a danger sign for them.

00:22:52.120 And the fact is Republicans not only are coming out early, as I said earlier, new people who are Republicans are registering and coming out early.

00:23:01.320 There's a lot of data, and I won't bore you or your listeners with all of it.

00:23:05.400 But every state that you can track it, you see, it's not just the old voters moving the time that they vote.

00:23:11.520 It's new voters who are coming out and voting likely Republican, assuming that people who register as Republican or live in 75 percent Republican areas are, in fact, Republican.

00:23:22.060 Okay, now what about late breakers?

00:23:25.140 Because that's always something we look at on election night.

00:23:28.180 When you get those exit polls, you always look to see who the late breakers go for.

00:23:33.600 And I saw at least one report with Team Harris claiming that the late breakers are going for her, that they really feel somehow Trump did damage to his campaign at that MSG rally.

00:23:45.500 And they've seen something that suggests they're winning late breakers.

00:23:51.480 Do you see that at all?

00:23:53.340 Yeah.

00:23:54.180 Well, you know, the data are interpretive.

00:23:57.780 You know, not a whole lot of people ask those questions in polls.

00:24:02.620 The polls that do ask that question tend to back up what the Harris campaign is talking about.

00:24:08.980 And, you know, if that's true, that's another – that is a good fact for them.

00:24:13.500 But, again, you have to ask, when you're talking about the expectation setting game, what are you talking about?

00:24:20.840 And if you're saying the people who are deciding late will swing the election to us, that implicitly means the people who were deciding earlier weren't enough to win.

00:24:31.060 So, yes, the data appear to be backing that up.

00:24:34.700 We know from other polls that there shouldn't be that many late breakers, late deciders.

00:24:41.020 We've seen a lot of polls saying 95 percent of each side's supporters for months have said they are rock solid in their votes.

00:24:49.160 So a late break in her direction of two or three percent only matters on the margin.

00:24:54.220 But if they're depending on that to set the expectation, the implicit admission is that they were behind on the people who had already decided as of last Friday.

00:25:05.840 All right. Let's spend a minute on Nevada, where John Ralston for days now has been updating – this is this reporter out there who everybody puts a lot of stock into on predicting what's going to happen – for days has been saying it's bad.

00:25:21.840 It doesn't look great for the Democrats.

00:25:23.280 Democrats, I haven't seen this many Republican votes in early voting, like, ever.

00:25:27.980 And if the Republicans have over a 40,000-vote lead in the early voting going into, like, today, we're pretty much at the Fat Lady Sings point.

00:25:40.040 Um, then as of, I think it was yesterday, he said the Republicans had either a 42 or 44,000-vote lead, but he did not say the Fat Lady was singing.

00:25:51.000 And then his final election analysis, which comes out today, says Trump has about a 30,000-vote lead right now.

00:26:01.880 And now that would have been factored in, because he was saying as of yesterday, if they had had over 40,000, which they did, then it would have been over.

00:26:07.500 But now he's saying, okay, now today it's down to 30.

00:26:09.540 You're expecting it to go down as more mail-in ballots come in, because those are more Democrat.

00:26:13.980 And he says he probably has about 30,000-vote lead right now.

00:26:17.620 Still a lot of Clark County mail ballots to be counted.

00:26:19.940 That's a more Dem city and county.

00:26:22.880 That's Las Vegas.

00:26:24.300 And the GOP partial cannibalization of its election-day vote will propel some Democrats to victory, like in these smaller House races.

00:26:33.680 But here's what he says.

00:26:35.420 It's really hard to know what will happen with mail ballots and election-day turnout, with so many Republicans voting early.

00:26:42.100 I mean, that's true everywhere, unless all of the early voters are first-time registers.

00:26:47.140 Anyway, he says, but here's what I do know.

00:26:48.760 Both sides, at least people who understand the data on both sides, believe this will be close.

00:26:54.460 Then he goes on to say, I've never missed a Nevada presidential call, but this one is the hardest since I started doing this.

00:27:01.560 But in the end, notwithstanding this big lead by Trump in the early vote, he chooses Harris, 48.5 to 48.2 over Trump.

00:27:14.700 I don't know.

00:27:15.700 Now, he does say out loud, he says, I know that some may think this reflects my well-known disdain for Trump, heart over data.

00:27:24.800 But that is not so.

00:27:26.800 I have often predicted against my own preferences.

00:27:29.040 History does not lie.

00:27:30.500 I just have a feeling she will catch up here.

00:27:33.600 But I also believe, and please remember this, it will not be clear who won on election night.

00:27:37.740 What do you make of that?

00:27:38.580 I don't think he is willing to bet.

00:27:42.520 What he says in another section of his prediction is that he's willing to bet that the Reid machine, the machine that was built up by the late Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, will turn out the votes.

00:27:53.860 He doesn't know where they'll turn out.

00:27:55.580 He doesn't know when they'll turn out.

00:27:56.740 But he says, I've seen it before, even though it's not happening now, I believe they will get the votes.

00:28:04.020 And I think he wasn't willing to bet against the power brokers in Las Vegas, who are all part of that machine.

00:28:10.240 You know, you take a look at the data, and there are data people who are looking at the frequency of voting of people in Nevada.

00:28:18.860 How many people have never voted before?

00:28:21.640 How many people have voted in one or two of the last general election?

00:28:24.780 And then the fact is, Nevada Republicans, registered Republicans, are leading in all of those categories.

00:28:31.180 They're not just cannibalizing out 65-year-old voters who've been voting for in Nevada elections since they moved there 40 years ago.

00:28:40.180 And how do we know that?

00:28:41.360 How do we know that?

00:28:41.960 They're getting—we know that because we have the Clark County voter files of a guy named Michael Pruiser from Decision Desk HQ.

00:28:50.100 You can go to his Twitter feed, and he posts all of these data.

00:28:52.860 These are numbers.

00:28:53.480 These are not conjecture.

00:28:55.640 And you take a look, and you see the voting turnout rate of people who have never voted in a Nevada general election by party.

00:29:03.820 And Republicans are turning out large numbers of them early.

00:29:07.140 People have voted in one or two of the past general election.

00:29:11.980 There are more Republicans, a higher percentage of people who have never voted in a Nevada general election before.

00:29:19.140 A higher percentage who are registered Republican are turning out than Democrat.

00:29:24.340 The same is true for the people who have only voted in one or two general elections.

00:29:28.220 In other words, the 2020 or the 2022.

00:29:31.140 The Democrats take the lead with the people who have voted in the last three.

00:29:34.720 In other words, it's the Democrats whose votes of the consistent voters are already in the tank, not the Republicans.

00:29:43.120 And these are data, and I guess John just doesn't know about Michael's website.

00:29:48.060 He's, you know, if you were a Republican, would you feed these data to John Ralston?

00:29:53.720 Probably not.

00:29:54.920 Well, I have to wonder, because he says right there in what I read, you know, he's got, he's just got a gut feeling that she's going to bring home more votes.

00:30:02.660 I mean, I think to a lot of the audience, that's going to sound like, oh, there's some funny business in the Harry Reid machine.

00:30:08.060 And John Ralston's well aware.

00:30:10.140 We'll see.

00:30:10.820 Well, let's find out.

00:30:11.620 But but so he just says it's a gut feeling.

00:30:13.800 And then you have Ann Seltzer, who I'm just going to go ahead and guess.

00:30:16.280 I don't know this, but that she's probably not a huge Trump fan.

00:30:19.280 And just the way she writes up the abortion stuff with the older voters suggested to me, maybe that was important to her, too.

00:30:24.580 It's my speculation.

00:30:25.400 But I do wonder how much these pollsters are like, I've got to make a gut call here and I'm going to make the gut call for Trump.

00:30:33.280 Like, I look at all the pollsters and oh, what a shock.

00:30:36.920 Larry Sabato somehow found a way for Harris to be, you know, his predicted favorite by far to no one's surprise.

00:30:45.560 You know, it's just that you can kind of go down the list of the pollsters who have been railing against Trump.

00:30:50.000 And oh, shockingly, they say in the end he's going to lose.

00:30:53.240 Right. Yeah, this is the look what I'm not going to cast aspersions on anybody.

00:31:00.000 This is a very difficult election to call.

00:31:02.500 If you look at the data, I have a record going back of 20 years.

00:31:06.760 Most of it is all on the Internet.

00:31:08.380 So people can go find my stuff.

00:31:10.880 I have predicted I am a Republican.

00:31:13.480 I have predicted Democratic victories when that's what the data told me.

00:31:16.800 I think in 2012, I think I was the only Republican to publicly say Obama was going to win.

00:31:23.900 I've got a lot of flack for it.

00:31:25.600 Well, guess what?

00:31:28.160 And I predicted Republicans to win.

00:31:30.540 You know, if I thought based on the weight of the data that Harris was going to win, I would say it.

00:31:36.600 But it is very, to put it, but it is very, very difficult to call this election.

00:31:43.240 And what that means is you often rely, unless you're really a deep weeds person, on a feeling.

00:31:51.060 And it's very hard to go against your confirmation bias.

00:31:54.100 It's very hard to go against your feelings.

00:31:56.060 The other thing I will say, though, and that is that since Franklin Roosevelt, there has not been a presidential election where there are more Americans who said they were Republicans than Democrats.

00:32:09.060 You can go back to the exit poll era and see that you can go back to partisan identification survey in the 60s and the 50s and the 40s, 90 years where it's been one way.

00:32:22.660 This could be the first election where more people will tell pollsters that they are Republican than Democrat.

00:32:30.600 And when a century of history is about ready to crumble before your eyes, I do not blame anyone who refuses to jump, who says, I'm going to go with history over what could be happening.

00:32:43.600 It's just human nature, as Ronald Reagan said in National Review in 1964, human nature avoids change and bends over backwards to avoid radical change.

00:32:54.400 A Republican plurality American electorate is radical change.

00:32:57.980 I do not doubt and cast aspersions on anyone who wants to bet in their final predictions against radical change.

00:33:05.000 I was willing to do it.

00:33:07.060 Okay, what about the-

00:33:08.000 I was willing to bet in favor of radical change, and that's why I came out where I did, you know.

00:33:13.600 What about the 2022 numbers?

00:33:15.200 Because there we saw pollsters were also, they weren't seeing the huge female vote that was going to come out and rail against Dobbs.

00:33:26.740 The numbers were very good for Republicans in those polls.

00:33:29.560 I mean, it was in a way like a 2016 situation where you went out that night on those midterms, and all the data, especially right-track, wrong-track feelings, were in favor of the Republicans.

00:33:40.940 And then, boom, the voters dropped the hammer.

00:33:44.340 No, you know, we're pissed.

00:33:46.980 So, if the voters, if we didn't see in the polls prior to 2022 the anger of, you know, the people who gave the Dems that election,

00:33:56.140 and I realize the Republicans did win the House, but not by the margins they expected, then what's our assurance that we're not seeing it, that, you know, that we're missing it again?

00:34:05.880 Well, what I would say is the early vote data in 2024 are much different than the early vote data in 2022.

00:34:15.980 The registration data since 2022 all favors Republicans.

00:34:20.620 You take a look.

00:34:21.740 What's happened in states with partisan registration since November of 2022 to date?

00:34:27.980 Virtually every state has seen Democrats decline and Republicans go up.

00:34:32.560 The net share ratio is that it's better by two to two and a half points nationwide among Republicans.

00:34:40.760 We did not see the early vote jump in favor of Republicans two years ago.

00:34:46.760 We did not see the sort of dramatic changes in partisan identification that we saw.

00:34:52.620 It was still an electorate that was willing to give, that seemed to be willing to give Biden two years more to turn things around.

00:34:59.980 I think what we've got now is they've got two more years.

00:35:04.080 Things haven't turned around enough for, haven't turned around at all for many of them.

00:35:08.520 And then you've got a factor that wasn't the case.

00:35:11.220 And two years ago, you could take a pass.

00:35:14.320 You could say, okay, I'm not happy with Biden, but he's not on the ballot right now.

00:35:19.620 The fact is, he is on the ballot right now.

00:35:22.900 It's, you know, you can't get away from the fact that Kamala Harris is his vice president

00:35:26.320 and is in the tank for every policy decision they made.

00:35:31.180 And then she says, you know, what's different decision will, you know, how different will her administration be?

00:35:37.580 And she couldn't think of a single thing where she differed with Joe Biden.

00:35:41.880 People know that.

00:35:42.800 And the question is, do you want four more years of this?

00:35:45.140 And I think those are the two things that are different than we had in 2022.

00:35:49.700 It's still a close election.

00:35:51.620 I could be wrong.

00:35:52.720 Harris could come out and have a victory.

00:35:55.680 But I think the weight of the evidence suggests that Donald Trump, I'd rather be in Donald Trump's

00:36:00.000 shoes than Kamala Harris's shoes as we're speaking.

00:36:03.360 I heard you on my buddies over at Real Clear Politics at their podcast talking about the first

00:36:09.000 signs of the evening that you're going to be looking at.

00:36:11.280 And I found these very interesting.

00:36:12.680 Can you talk to me about Virginia 3 and Virginia 7?

00:36:18.140 Yeah.

00:36:18.660 Well, Virginia 3 is the African-American district that I was talking about.

00:36:23.300 The Republicans are not going to win that seat, but the turnout is going to be really indicative.

00:36:28.800 You know, is that if what you're talking about is a low turnout in a Virginia congressional

00:36:33.440 seat that's dominated by African-Americans, turnout rates don't vary all that much in states.

00:36:39.260 It's not like people don't show up in a presidential year in non-swing states and do in swing states.

00:36:45.280 So if you've got a low turnout in Virginia 3, that's an indication that you're going to

00:36:49.060 have a low turnout in Philadelphia, a low turnout in Detroit, a low turnout in Milwaukee, a low

00:36:53.400 turnout in Clayton County and the black suburbs of Atlanta.

00:36:56.640 It's an indication early that things are not going right.

00:37:01.000 And the converse is true.

00:37:02.020 If you get a high turnout, then that means is that, yeah, they all they didn't show up in

00:37:05.840 early voting, but they showed up on Election Day.

00:37:07.820 And that's a good sign for Harris.

00:37:09.520 Virginia 7 is a contested multiracial district between the exurbs of Northern Virginia and

00:37:15.600 the city of Fredericksburg.

00:37:16.700 Biden won it by a little under seven points, and it's a very heavily contested congressional

00:37:21.560 district.

00:37:22.040 This is where Eugene Vindman, the brother of the Vindman who who was so important in the

00:37:27.900 first impeachment trial, is running.

00:37:30.800 And if there is a movement among blacks and Hispanics towards Republicans, we will see it

00:37:36.580 here first.

00:37:37.240 And if we're talking about 830, and instead of winning this district by seven points, Harris

00:37:44.960 is winning it by one or two, or maybe even losing it.

00:37:48.400 That is a huge warning sign that the racial realignment is real and that Trump will do well.

00:37:54.960 The converse is true, is that if Harris is winning it by seven points, just the same

00:37:59.420 as Biden, that says, oh, my gosh, despite all the suggestions, it looks like the Biden

00:38:05.460 coalition is being reassembled.

00:38:07.900 So those two districts in Virginia and Virginia closes at seven o'clock and it votes, uh, counts

00:38:14.700 very quickly.

00:38:15.460 So by 830 or nine, we should have a very good sense from almost completely returns here of

00:38:23.220 indicative areas that have demographics that are important in all of the swing states.

00:38:28.620 And it's one of the reasons I'll be looking closely at both seats.

00:38:31.080 Now, how do we avoid what happened to us?

00:38:35.420 Well, all of us in 2016, I told the audience and Steve Bannon about it yesterday, but I

00:38:40.280 went out there as an anchor at 5 p.m.

00:38:42.880 inside the Fox News, you know, sort of brain trust room and receive the briefing from Arnon

00:38:48.580 Mishkin and our decision desk.

00:38:50.560 This is before Brett Baer and I were going to go on the air and give the audience a wink

00:38:54.960 and a nod update.

00:38:55.920 You're not yet allowed to tell them what you've seen, but you can kind of drive the discussion

00:39:00.020 in a way that telegraphs what you know.

00:39:02.760 Um, and they said, and I quote, it's going to be a very good night for Hillary Clinton.

00:39:08.620 This is in 2016, the night she lost the decision desk was being honest in what they, you know,

00:39:16.600 they get paid to be right.

00:39:18.000 And they, this is the way they let us all.

00:39:21.640 And Steve Bannon was telling me he was hearing the same.

00:39:25.020 And, um, I know the Trump family was being told the same and yet we all know that it was

00:39:31.360 wrong.

00:39:32.040 So what, what's to prevent that kind of thing from happening a few hours from now again?

00:39:39.500 There's nothing to prevent it from happening.

00:39:41.740 I wish I could say otherwise.

00:39:43.120 Um, I was not surprised in 2016, I went out on a limb and said, I thought it was that Trump

00:39:49.640 had a good chance of winning.

00:39:51.540 Um, and you know, my analysis is online and everyone can go read it.

00:39:55.760 Um, and so I think what people were missing in 2016 is how people who didn't like either

00:40:03.780 candidate were going to vote.

00:40:05.480 You know, there were 18% of people who said they did not like either candidate.

00:40:10.260 Uh, they had been stable in the one poll that, uh, measured that beforehand was the GW battleground

00:40:18.180 poll.

00:40:18.780 And I had looked at those cross tabs.

00:40:20.780 And what you found was that even as late as the, uh, right.

00:40:24.560 They took a poll right after the access Hollywood tape and 57% of these people said they were

00:40:29.340 undecided.

00:40:29.900 In other words, the access Hollywood tape came out and these people did not break to Hillary

00:40:34.080 Clinton.

00:40:34.720 What we know is that they broke late for Trump, but you could have analyzed that.

00:40:39.020 And that's what I did in my, my, in, in my essay.

00:40:41.620 And I think what there's an over-reliance on exit polls and an over-reliance on pure

00:40:47.980 polling data, as opposed to campaign experience and, uh, and, uh, and voting patterns.

00:40:54.620 So if you get an exit poll and they say, it looks like Harris is ahead by three points,

00:41:00.100 don't call it, but she's like, we're to win the not.

00:41:02.780 Uh, this just reminds me of 2004 when the exit polls made it look like John Kerry was

00:41:09.100 going to win.

00:41:09.600 Uh, and well, there was a couple of point error in favor of that.

00:41:13.780 And, uh, uh, it turned into a George, a George W. Bush victory because there was a, the exit

00:41:21.160 poll was off within its margin of error by enough, uh, to miss the George W. Bush victory.

00:41:28.140 Uh, and so have humility when you get, when you have the five o'clock briefing, whoever has

00:41:34.380 the five o'clock briefing, step back, have humility, uh, about what you're seeing and, uh,

00:41:40.380 don't take it as gospel faith.

00:41:42.340 Yeah, because the polls are still open at that point, which is why you're not really

00:41:46.440 allowed to say anything about them.

00:41:47.600 They're still open all over the country and you shouldn't influence an election by telegraphing

00:41:53.780 to somebody in any way that it's possibly over for one of the candidates.

00:41:58.620 And especially now knowing what we know that these polls are wrong a lot.

00:42:04.300 The exit poll mixture with the raw data that the analysts are getting, it doesn't always

00:42:09.500 make a tasty cocktail.

00:42:11.520 Sometimes it makes something absolutely disgusting, like a white Russian that makes you vomit the

00:42:15.800 next day.

00:42:16.440 So, so you really do need to be careful.

00:42:20.000 And you tell me, like, if you were advising us tonight, my audience and yours truly, like,

00:42:26.600 don't make any judgments until this, until that, what, what would fill in that blank?

00:42:32.360 Um, okay.

00:42:35.300 Um, don't make any judgments until you have, uh, um, 70 to 80% of the vote in an estate,

00:42:45.240 uh, you know, like Florida in 2000.

00:42:48.180 Remember that they called Florida for gore early, uh, called it before the, uh, Republican

00:42:56.240 areas of the panhandle had voted.

00:42:58.600 And then they had to call it back because they had faulty exit poll data and the exit

00:43:02.960 poll said, well, Gore's going to win outside of the margin of error.

00:43:05.260 Well, we know he didn't even win much less outside of the margin of error.

00:43:08.980 Don't make a call or don't, you know, imply something until you've got a lot of vote data

00:43:15.360 in, because that's what happened in 2016 is that when the vote data started coming in,

00:43:19.740 it was, oh my gosh, this isn't happening the way it's supposed to.

00:43:22.940 And we saw it as soon as Indiana closed, literally, because I was live tweeting, uh, analysis

00:43:29.080 and you could see it in rural counties in Indiana, Kentucky.

00:43:33.300 This is not what should be happening if Hillary Clinton's going to win by five points.

00:43:37.240 And then you get to Florida and it's this early vote is not what should be happy.

00:43:41.420 She's ahead, but she's not ahead by enough.

00:43:43.620 And then the stuff was coming in from all these states and you can just see, this is not

00:43:47.380 what should be happening if this is a Hillary Clinton night.

00:43:52.180 Uh, so wait until you have vote data and substantial amounts of vote data so that you

00:43:56.500 can draw conclusions from it.

00:43:58.500 Because, you know, in 2016, what basically happened was a lot of people who didn't want

00:44:03.280 to vote for Donald Trump decided in the last 96 hours to do it.

00:44:08.060 And I know people who went from Friday morning to, oh my gosh, I can't believe I can't put

00:44:14.060 Hillary Clinton in the white house to literally in the polling booth.

00:44:16.700 I know somebody who literally drove to the election day place thinking that person was

00:44:22.660 going to vote for Gary Johnson.

00:44:24.620 And when they got in the booth, they couldn't do it and voted for Donald Trump.

00:44:28.160 Yeah.

00:44:28.280 Who could?

00:44:28.900 Yeah.

00:44:29.040 I understand.

00:44:29.840 Poor Gary.

00:44:32.280 The, wasn't he the Aleppo?

00:44:34.260 What is Aleppo?

00:44:35.260 Wasn't he that candidate who was on morning Joe?

00:44:37.140 Yes.

00:44:41.500 Yeah, no, that would be the modern equivalent of not.

00:44:44.060 Not knowing where Kiev was in the Ukraine.

00:44:47.820 Somebody asked him on MSNBC, I think it was like, what do you think of what's happening

00:44:51.340 in Aleppo?

00:44:51.960 And he was like, Aleppo?

00:44:53.300 What is Aleppo?

00:44:55.460 Anyway.

00:44:56.200 Okay.

00:44:56.520 So can we talk up for a minute about the mirage, the red mirage?

00:45:01.400 Because this was the big story that the left bathed in like a warm salts bath for days

00:45:07.640 and weeks after 2020.

00:45:09.860 It was a red mirage you saw.

00:45:13.040 And then we all went to bed and we thought Trump won and we woke up the next morning and

00:45:16.180 we were told that he had lost because of the mail-in balloting and the mail-in tends to

00:45:20.400 be more democratic.

00:45:21.600 It seems to me the risk of that kind of a thing is much lower this time, assuming that the

00:45:28.160 mail-in votes are not going to equal what we saw in 2020, which was COVID.

00:45:31.700 Right.

00:45:34.260 Yeah.

00:45:34.700 I mean, there's two reasons that we had the red mirage in the blue wall states.

00:45:39.500 The first was COVID.

00:45:40.720 You just had unbelievable numbers of people who voted by mail, mainly Democrats, because

00:45:46.920 they were scared they were going to die if they left their house.

00:45:50.300 None of these states have anywhere like the level of mail-in balloting.

00:45:55.000 We now have in-person voting early in Michigan and in Wisconsin.

00:46:00.680 And in Wisconsin, there's like 550,000 mail ballots and over 900,000 in-person ballots.

00:46:08.180 So what that means is that fewer people are voting early or voting in person, voting early

00:46:15.780 by mail.

00:46:16.800 They are voting in person.

00:46:17.760 So, and then the other factor that affected it was you couldn't report the mail votes until

00:46:24.840 all of the votes were tabulated.

00:46:27.020 And because of COVID, they were all being done in this central precinct area with six feet

00:46:32.000 across, you know, maintaining all the social distancing.

00:46:34.760 It took them forever to process this.

00:46:37.580 So we have fewer votes to process.

00:46:39.540 We don't have the COVID social distancing structures.

00:46:44.680 We've got more Republicans voting.

00:46:46.620 So there may be a red dawn, you know, but again, election analysts know where these votes

00:46:56.040 are.

00:46:56.740 Election analysts know which counties are out.

00:46:59.680 And that's something that on the on-air you can talk about is, you know, if it looks like

00:47:03.780 Milwaukee's not reporting its absentee ballots yet, you can say, yeah, Trump's up by 100,000,

00:47:10.000 but here's how many mail ballots there are in Milwaukee.

00:47:12.360 And you've got those data.

00:47:13.620 You know exactly how many mail ballots there are in Milwaukee.

00:47:17.540 And you can temper that a little bit in a way that was hard in 2020.

00:47:22.620 That's exactly what happened in 2012 when the Fox decision desk was about to call Ohio

00:47:29.800 for Barack Obama and thus the presidency.

00:47:33.580 And Karl Rove said, it's wrong.

00:47:36.040 It's wrong.

00:47:36.660 It's too soon to call it.

00:47:37.740 And I walked down the hallway at Fox News, became this famous moment and cross-examined

00:47:42.580 the decision desk on why they were making that call.

00:47:45.240 And they stood by it.

00:47:46.580 And that's exactly the analysis that they offered, that there's they could see exactly

00:47:49.820 what the outstanding vote was, where it was, what what counties.

00:47:54.840 And they were just far too blue for realistically what was expected to come in from those counties

00:48:01.760 to to help Mitt Romney enough to save his chances in Ohio.

00:48:06.820 And so they make those.

00:48:08.640 It's like math is basic math, statistics and probability.

00:48:11.460 They make those decisions all the time.

00:48:13.240 They are very comfortable with it.

00:48:14.560 All right, last but not least, when will we know?

00:48:18.240 Well, I know you don't know.

00:48:19.220 But like, what's your best guess on when we'll know who won?

00:48:23.600 Between four and six in the morning on Wednesday at the latest.

00:48:26.560 We might know earlier.

00:48:28.200 Great.

00:48:29.280 OK, I lied.

00:48:30.120 I've got 40 seconds left.

00:48:31.500 What's your prediction for the House in the Senate?

00:48:35.380 If Trump does what I think he will do, I think Republicans will have 54, 55 senators.

00:48:41.780 And I think Republicans keep a narrow margin in the House.

00:48:45.220 Wow.

00:48:46.260 If any of what you said is true, the Republicans and right leaners listening to this show are

00:48:52.020 going to give you a medal, Henry Olson.

00:48:54.280 I'm sure you made them feel a lot better.

00:48:55.740 And we'll know.

00:48:56.380 I hope you're right that we will know this time tomorrow.

00:48:58.360 We'll know.

00:48:59.600 I would love to have you on and join us tonight.

00:49:02.200 We're having this special election night party.

00:49:05.400 And you have earned yourself a ticket, sir.

00:49:07.460 It's a pleasure to spend time with you.

00:49:10.740 Well, thank you.

00:49:11.740 I would love to do that.

00:49:12.620 I am at the University of Houston, where I'll be doing live analysis for the students and

00:49:16.940 hopefully live streaming it as well.

00:49:19.400 But I'll certainly make breaks to chat with you during your program tonight.

00:49:23.080 Awesome.

00:49:23.660 We will definitely be calling you in on that.

00:49:25.760 Thanks, Henry.

00:49:26.200 All the best.

00:49:27.140 Henry Olson, everybody.

00:49:28.120 He was great.

00:49:28.680 Wasn't he so clear?

00:49:29.520 It's made it so interesting.

00:49:30.700 Now we know what to look for.

00:49:31.620 Virginia 3, Virginia 7.

00:49:33.200 And we'll do that when Henry joins us and he'll tell us what he's seeing in those two

00:49:36.900 counties.

00:49:37.160 Don't forget, our special coverage begins at 8 p.m.

00:49:40.220 We're taking your calls now.

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00:50:49.080 Before we get to the callers, just want to tell you a little bit about what happened

00:50:51.960 last night.

00:50:52.480 So we did fly out to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and it was super exciting.

00:50:58.660 So exciting that I decided to bring the family because they're Trump supporters too, and they

00:51:04.400 really wanted to see him.

00:51:05.800 And it was, you know, it's history in the making.

00:51:07.840 So we got out there and we went back in sort of a holding room as we waited for Trump to

00:51:13.360 arrive.

00:51:13.660 He'd been all over, you know, he was running a little late, but not too bad.

00:51:18.220 And then they asked if I would like to come out and greet him, like when he arrived at

00:51:22.880 the facility.

00:51:23.440 So I said, sure.

00:51:24.220 I went out and in he came and it's great.

00:51:27.620 They always have the same music playing.

00:51:29.060 Here's some pictures for the listening audience.

00:51:30.620 You can go to youtube.com slash Megan Kelly, go about an hour into the show and you'll see

00:51:34.400 the pictures of the two of us here.

00:51:36.740 Backstage is his motorcade pulled into the building.

00:51:38.980 This is where we're coming over.

00:51:41.380 Hello.

00:51:42.120 We're having a greeting.

00:51:43.300 And these shots, by the way, were taken by our friend, Justin Wells, who's Tucker Carlson's

00:51:49.180 producer.

00:51:49.740 One of them is Fox News executive producer.

00:51:52.180 Now he's shooting that documentary, Art of the Surge.

00:51:55.220 And by the way, you should definitely be watching this series.

00:51:58.460 Justin, it's incredible the footage that he has gotten of Trump.

00:52:02.660 Think about it.

00:52:03.420 They've had like access to Trump this whole summer for the most bizarre election developments

00:52:09.760 we've ever seen.

00:52:10.980 Two assassination attempts, the debate switcheroo.

00:52:14.360 And you can follow his his movie and his series on X.

00:52:20.080 The Twitter account is at Art of the Surge, Art of the Surge.

00:52:23.800 Anyway, well worth your time.

00:52:24.640 It's great to see Justin and spend some time together.

00:52:27.320 And it was great to see Trump.

00:52:28.320 He was super kind.

00:52:29.780 It was great to talk.

00:52:30.920 Think he saw the Bill Maher appearance and approved.

00:52:35.020 He gave it a thumbs up.

00:52:36.620 And then we went out there.

00:52:37.920 We watched him do his thing.

00:52:38.880 He was great.

00:52:39.740 I was so happy to be seated next to Sage Steele and Danica Patrick, who I had on my show back

00:52:45.700 at NBC.

00:52:46.280 And she's such a badass.

00:52:47.460 And she's become so vocal about the women's sports issue.

00:52:50.780 I just love her.

00:52:51.960 She's so tough.

00:52:52.800 And Sage is like an angel sent from heaven.

00:52:54.900 I mean, I just she's such a good person.

00:52:57.400 She's so interesting.

00:52:58.440 She's very smart.

00:52:59.500 And you look at her all.

00:53:01.360 I have the same feeling whenever I look at Sage Steele, which is I need to try harder.

00:53:06.760 I don't I don't know what to do, but I don't think all of us are capable of looking as luminous

00:53:13.240 as Sage Steele.

00:53:14.880 Truly, she's luminous.

00:53:17.600 Anyway, I got to sit next to them, which was exciting.

00:53:20.320 And then Trump was going on.

00:53:22.640 And for there was a second there, I was like, I don't know.

00:53:24.340 Does he is he going to call me up?

00:53:26.080 What's going to happen?

00:53:26.820 It's going to be kind of embarrassing because I told everybody that I'd be speaking.

00:53:30.540 Maybe I'm not speaking.

00:53:32.180 I'm not sure how this works.

00:53:33.520 And then he did call me up.

00:53:35.060 So I was relieved.

00:53:36.460 And it was just a quick thing.

00:53:39.000 I got up there.

00:53:39.760 I'll play you a little bit of the beginning.

00:53:41.820 The audience here will not find this story surprising.

00:53:45.680 Take a listen.

00:53:47.580 And, you know, I just mentioned a name, but a woman who I saw the other night on television

00:53:51.880 just ripped some poor idiot apart.

00:53:55.260 Megyn Kelly is here and she's doing.

00:53:58.200 Come on.

00:53:59.360 Come up here, Megyn.

00:54:01.900 She ripped a guy apart.

00:54:11.300 Hi, everybody.

00:54:17.680 It's great to see you.

00:54:20.020 Can you believe this guy?

00:54:21.760 Can you believe the energy and the stamina on this guy?

00:54:24.500 At his age?

00:54:25.040 I'm ready to go to sleep over there.

00:54:26.600 He's got another rally to go to till tonight.

00:54:29.520 Let me tell you, first of all, one of the reasons why I wanted to come here, one of the

00:54:33.280 many reasons I wanted to come here.

00:54:35.020 When I launched my show four years ago, we had Mark Cuban on the program.

00:54:39.320 Yeah.

00:54:39.980 Yeah.

00:54:41.300 It may seem he was in the news this week and he started going on about how bad America's

00:54:46.920 race history was and how ashamed he was of America.

00:54:49.560 And that's why I was at all these protests and he felt it was really important to stand

00:54:52.840 up and speak out about human rights violations.

00:54:57.080 And then it got awkward when I asked him about all the money he was taking from China.

00:55:01.800 Then he dropped a bunch of F-bombs and I thought, I really enjoy this feeling of proving

00:55:06.140 Mark Cuban wrong.

00:55:07.860 And so here I am at a Trump rally, a strong, intelligent woman to prove Mark Cuban wrong

00:55:20.440 again.

00:55:21.060 OK, so that's how I opened it.

00:55:26.000 And the crowd was not a big group of fans of Mark Cuban.

00:55:29.720 So that that went over fine.

00:55:32.120 And then I made a couple of points about why I think it's important to vote for Trump.

00:55:35.860 I'm not going to go over them all.

00:55:36.940 You guys know them.

00:55:37.680 I made most of them on this show yesterday and I make them all the time.

00:55:40.620 My team put together a very short little highlight reel of what actually happened.

00:55:45.620 And I will play that for you.

00:55:47.540 I do want to tell you the main reasons I am voting for Donald Trump.

00:55:52.740 Number one, immigration.

00:55:54.340 President Trump closed the border.

00:55:56.100 Kamala Harris opened it by choice.

00:55:58.140 It wasn't accidental.

00:55:59.860 She said it would be humane.

00:56:01.680 That's what she and her boss believed.

00:56:03.800 Tell it to Lake and Riley's family.

00:56:05.800 There was nothing humane about it.

00:56:07.780 He closed it.

00:56:08.900 They opened it.

00:56:09.660 It was an intentional choice.

00:56:11.080 And there's no reason not to believe they won't do it again.

00:56:14.420 The boys should not be in the girls' sports.

00:56:21.800 The boys should not be in the girls' bathrooms.

00:56:24.220 The boys should not be in the girls' locker rooms.

00:56:26.940 And by the way, they are going into the women's prisons.

00:56:30.540 She changed the law in California to make sure the taxpayers would pay for their sex change operations.

00:56:37.100 She was not just following the law.

00:56:38.780 She changed the law.

00:56:40.320 President Trump will stop it.

00:56:41.860 He got mocked by the left for saying he would be a protector of women.

00:56:51.380 He will be a protector of women.

00:56:53.420 And it's why I'm voting for him.

00:56:55.500 He will not look at our boys like they're second-class citizens.

00:56:59.680 And ladies out there who want a bit of girl power in this election, let me tell you something.

00:57:05.460 How can you win when the sons and the husbands and the brothers and the dads you love are losing?

00:57:11.760 That's not a win.

00:57:14.940 What I don't want, what I don't think you want, is the left's version of masculinity.

00:57:21.180 I'm not into their version of toxic masculinity or new masculinity.

00:57:26.400 I prefer the old version.

00:57:29.720 Them, all of you, and I prefer a president who understands how to be strong and how to fight.

00:57:38.280 Those guys standing behind me were remarkable.

00:57:43.760 They all had their hard hats on.

00:57:45.120 This is the thing at some of the Trump rallies.

00:57:46.760 And you could tell these were real salt-of-the-earth Pittsburgh guys.

00:57:50.960 You know, tough.

00:57:51.820 And guys who aren't afraid to get their hands dirty and work with their hands for a living.

00:57:56.780 And, you know, put in rough days and they don't get rich doing it.

00:58:00.740 And they love this country.

00:58:01.720 And they have been forgotten.

00:58:05.800 Forgotten.

00:58:07.140 By Democratic administrations.

00:58:09.820 By Barack Obama.

00:58:11.240 And certainly Joe Biden.

00:58:12.520 Scranton Joe has paid them no mind.

00:58:14.300 But President Trump did.

00:58:15.820 It's how he won.

00:58:17.280 He brought back 400,000 manufacturing jobs.

00:58:20.020 400,000.

00:58:20.880 The listlessness that American men are feeling these days is epidemic levels.

00:58:27.220 And by the way, three out of four deaths of despair, men.

00:58:31.420 Men are leaving the workforce and they're not even trying to get back in.

00:58:34.620 They don't feel there's a place for them anymore.

00:58:38.420 And I just think, like, the messaging from the left is still so anti-male.

00:58:43.100 And this pro, you know, fake, rah-rah girl power.

00:58:47.120 But really what they're talking about is singularly abortion.

00:58:49.940 As though abortion is empowering.

00:58:53.060 That's how we find our power.

00:58:54.660 By killing our unborn babies.

00:58:57.240 And that's the only way.

00:58:58.720 That's what defines us.

00:59:00.340 That we are losing sight of all the other things that matter.

00:59:03.900 All the other things that matter.

00:59:05.020 As I've been pointing out on the show for a long time now.

00:59:07.280 Most specifically Friday and Monday.

00:59:09.240 Abortion is really not on the ballot at the federal level in this election.

00:59:13.340 Period.

00:59:14.080 It's just not.

00:59:15.660 And we need to be thinking about the other issues that are important to women.

00:59:18.460 And one of those issues is what's happening to our men.

00:59:21.480 To our men.

00:59:22.200 By these woke leftists who are trying to shame and blame them right out of their swagger.

00:59:28.880 Right out of their joy.

00:59:31.420 They want them joyless and jobless and voiceless.

00:59:37.200 And so I see why all those men.

00:59:40.640 You're seeing the videotapes pop up now.

00:59:43.640 Of the men lining up for hours.

00:59:46.040 Three hour lines they're standing in.

00:59:47.860 In the rural counties of Pennsylvania today.

00:59:50.300 And I say God bless you men.

00:59:52.560 God bless you.

00:59:53.860 You do hard work all the time.

00:59:56.480 This is one day in which you have to do a different kind of hard work.

00:59:59.200 And you are perfectly suited to do it.

01:00:01.880 You have to stand there.

01:00:03.280 You have to stand there.

01:00:04.000 If it takes five hours, stand there.

01:00:05.980 Get your vote in.

01:00:07.580 For the prospect of a leader and a government that respects you and cares about you.

01:00:15.140 And thinks about you and your interests.

01:00:18.420 Instead of those of these global elites.

01:00:21.120 And the billionaire class that's cutting ads for them.

01:00:24.400 Like Julia Roberts and Oprah Winfrey.

01:00:28.220 Oprah!

01:00:29.760 I'm sick of her yelling at me.

01:00:31.220 This, it's, the stakes here could not be more clear.

01:00:35.880 So I loved those guys behind me.

01:00:37.840 And I do think I'm sick of the left's shaming of guys like that over their natural male qualities.

01:00:47.120 The need to be strong.

01:00:48.920 The need to protect.

01:00:50.660 The need to take risks.

01:00:53.080 Yes, and swagger.

01:00:54.420 Yes, that's part of it.

01:00:55.520 Some bravado.

01:00:56.180 Oh, absolutely.

01:00:58.300 I think we're emasculating these guys.

01:01:02.440 And then we're wondering where our protectors are.

01:01:05.940 What do you mean?

01:01:07.620 You know, you castrated him.

01:01:09.980 How do you think he's going to feel?

01:01:12.120 So I just, I want my fellow women, if you haven't gone to the polls today, to think about that.

01:01:16.780 It's not all about abortion rights or girl power.

01:01:22.660 You might need to be thinking more about your son, your dad, your husband, your brother, your male friend.

01:01:30.920 Those deaths of despair.

01:01:32.380 And how we get these guys back on track, which does help women, too.

01:01:38.440 Okay, that's that.

01:01:40.040 Appreciated it.

01:01:40.840 And then, by the way, Sage and Danica and Trump all flew off to Grand Rapids, Michigan, where he was on stage.

01:01:48.320 He got there at some, like, 12.15.

01:01:50.000 I got, I was in my bed by 12.15.

01:01:52.000 I was thrilled.

01:01:52.740 And we were all tired.

01:01:53.940 He just took the stage in Grand Rapids, Michigan last night at 12.15.

01:01:57.260 And he spoke for two hours.

01:02:00.460 He was up there dancing.

01:02:01.880 Do we have videotape of that?

01:02:04.160 He was up there having a great time.

01:02:07.020 Here, take a look at Saw 3.

01:02:13.800 This is 2 in the morning.

01:02:16.780 It's doing the Trump dance.

01:02:26.780 That's great.

01:02:27.420 And had a really sweet, reflective, and I definitely believe sincere closing message to those who are in attendance, who, as I pointed out an hour ago, are like groupies in the way that a groupie follows a rock band.

01:02:42.580 And, you know, a lot of the same faces go to these rallies, and they just adore the former president.

01:02:46.740 Take a listen to Saw 2.

01:02:47.780 I want to take a moment to thank the millions of hard-working men and women who are the heart and soul of this, the greatest movement of all time.

01:02:58.000 Because it's you much more so than me, frankly.

01:03:07.280 You're incredible people.

01:03:08.660 You built this country, and you're going to save this country.

01:03:11.360 But you're incredible people.

01:03:13.560 You're really incredible people.

01:03:15.060 And as I said in the very beginning, this isn't my campaign.

01:03:19.140 This is your campaign.

01:03:20.200 This is a great campaign that's now it's nine years.

01:03:24.000 But you've given your time, your money, and your whole heart for this cause, and your support means more than anything you can even understand.

01:03:35.280 It's amazing.

01:03:36.540 I love you all.

01:03:37.480 You're very special.

01:03:38.700 This is my last rally.

01:03:42.200 Can you believe it?

01:03:43.060 The rallies, these big, beautiful rallies, there's never been anything like it.

01:03:46.880 I think he's telling you the truth.

01:03:51.220 He's genuinely going to miss them.

01:03:52.840 I want to tell you this just in from Charlie Kirk, who, as you know, is part of the Get Out the Vote effort for Team Trump, along with a PAC organized by Elon and some other groups.

01:04:02.120 Charlie just tweeted out the following.

01:04:03.700 Turnout is mixed and not where we want it to be.

01:04:07.600 Turnout is mixed and not where we want it to be.

01:04:10.160 We need more people to vote.

01:04:11.860 We can't let turnout flatline.

01:04:13.840 Text everyone you know.

01:04:15.180 Make more noise.

01:04:16.060 We need more.

01:04:18.080 All right.

01:04:18.660 Well, he's seeing something that sounds alarming.

01:04:21.940 So it's 1.13 now in the East.

01:04:26.140 Get out and vote.

01:04:27.960 Get out.

01:04:28.540 Consider yourself texted.

01:04:29.740 Make more noise.

01:04:30.680 We need more.

01:04:32.760 Okay.

01:04:33.540 Well, we're going to find out more as the day goes on.

01:04:36.860 Let me hear from all of you.

01:04:38.060 Oh, by the way, if you want to see the full remarks of yours truly, they're only like seven minutes long.

01:04:42.680 You can go to YouTube.com slash Megan Kelly.

01:04:44.480 They're posted there.

01:04:45.560 All right.

01:04:45.840 Let's take some calls.

01:04:46.600 Let's go to Aaron in Wisconsin.

01:04:49.420 One of the critical swing states.

01:04:51.060 Hi, Aaron.

01:04:52.140 How are you feeling today?

01:04:53.260 How are you feeling about Wisconsin?

01:04:54.380 I'm cautiously optimistic.

01:04:55.900 I think we're going to take seven or six.

01:04:59.720 I think we're going to take six or seven.

01:05:01.400 I think we're going to I think Trump's going to take six or seven swing states.

01:05:05.060 I think he he will either lose Michigan or lose or lose Wisconsin or take one or take vice versa.

01:05:12.920 Yep, it definitely could be.

01:05:15.420 I mean, I've heard like Mark Halpin really thinks that we should be looking at Wisconsin as Trump's best blue wall state.

01:05:21.000 Team Trump feels they realize Pennsylvania could absolutely go either way, but they feel good about their chances in Pennsylvania.

01:05:26.380 But if he just takes one, as as you know, our first guest was saying, if he if he can somehow lock up North Carolina and Georgia early and then just take one, like if he just gets Pennsylvania, then he's good to go.

01:05:39.080 Um, you know, he might take Nevada as well.

01:05:42.120 So we'll see.

01:05:43.420 Wisconsin's big.

01:05:44.160 But why it's so hard to poll, Aaron.

01:05:46.300 Where did you get called by any pollsters at all?

01:05:49.180 I do.

01:05:49.840 And I say I'm voting for Kamala.

01:05:51.460 But Wisconsin, it's hard to poll because there's a lot of there's a ton of rural areas in in Wisconsin.

01:05:59.060 And people don't want to say how they're voting for.

01:06:01.300 So Wisconsin is why.

01:06:03.120 Why do you say you're going to vote for Kamala when I assume the truth is you're voting for Trump?

01:06:07.340 That's correct.

01:06:08.040 I want to give him the wrong answer.

01:06:11.960 Why?

01:06:13.700 Um, good question, because maybe they maybe they think Kamala will get more votes if people say they're voting for Kamala.

01:06:25.740 Interesting.

01:06:26.920 All right.

01:06:27.360 So you're one of the people that they talk about is possibly people who like to just mess with the pollsters who.

01:06:32.920 Yes.

01:06:33.180 Yeah, I don't know.

01:06:33.820 They just want to, like, lead people to believe maybe her support there is stronger than it is.

01:06:39.080 But are you did you already vote?

01:06:42.040 I already voted on Thursday.

01:06:44.400 OK.

01:06:44.760 And did you vote for Trump?

01:06:46.260 I voted for Trump.

01:06:47.200 Yes.

01:06:48.380 OK.

01:06:48.660 Well, hopefully we'll know soon.

01:06:52.020 Those blue wall states, they don't count very fast, Aaron.

01:06:54.320 I also think that the swing states that Trump wins, we're going to get he's going to he's going to tip all those senators from those swing states.

01:07:04.160 And lastly, but lastly, but not least, I just want to thank you for all the work and hard and hard job you do.

01:07:10.700 And I used to listen to Rush and you're my first choice to listen to.

01:07:15.620 So we appreciate you.

01:07:17.520 That's so sweet.

01:07:18.500 Oh, Aaron, thank you.

01:07:19.600 That means a lot to me.

01:07:20.660 I loved Rush and just felt his absence so acutely when we lost him.

01:07:25.560 So thank you for that honor and good luck today.

01:07:28.500 We'll see.

01:07:29.380 Talk to you tomorrow in one way, shape or form.

01:07:32.020 All right.

01:07:32.140 Let's head on down straight down to Texas and Edward.

01:07:36.460 Edward, how are you feeling about Texas and in particular that Senate race between Ted Cruz and Colin Allred?

01:07:42.040 Hey, Megan.

01:07:42.860 I'm not worried about that at all.

01:07:44.700 You know, Ted is he's I don't know.

01:07:47.360 He's kind of weird, but we like him anyway.

01:07:50.700 So I'm not worried about that race at all.

01:07:53.340 I think Texas will go much more red than it did in 2020.

01:08:00.140 I hope you're right.

01:08:01.120 But yeah, go ahead.

01:08:03.040 There's just a couple of things I wanted to say.

01:08:05.080 First of all, your rally speech yesterday was fantastic.

01:08:08.460 And I just wanted to commend you for your moral courage and standing up in this moment and especially being able to put aside that history with Trump.

01:08:17.400 You know, I saw the whole thing unfold in 2015, 2016.

01:08:21.200 And it takes a lot of character to put that kind of thing aside for what really matters to the country.

01:08:26.480 Oh, you are so sweet.

01:08:27.960 Thank you, Edward.

01:08:28.580 Can I tell you something?

01:08:31.120 It was something when I went out on that debate stage in August of 15 with Trump.

01:08:38.520 I don't know what it was, but I even before I asked the question, I felt like I could feel the tectonic plates shifting beneath me.

01:08:49.340 Just that something massive was happening there that night and I think it was just about Trump, his ascension, his becoming president, what he would do for the country, the change he would make in the world.

01:09:04.820 And I was at the leading edge of it that night and I felt it.

01:09:09.580 I mean, I could feel it.

01:09:11.060 And then everything exploded.

01:09:13.180 Things got crazy between the two of us in a very strange way, tumultuous.

01:09:17.520 And then a piece was brokered.

01:09:19.900 You know, I went to Trump Tower and saw him negotiated with the help of Brian Kilmeade, the Henry Kissinger of our time.

01:09:26.440 Not everybody knows that.

01:09:27.480 And we made up and we were fine.

01:09:31.040 We've had our ups and downs.

01:09:32.080 You know, he doesn't like it when you criticize him.

01:09:33.700 And I understand that.

01:09:34.760 That's fine.

01:09:35.220 But we're in a good place.

01:09:37.400 And more importantly than our individual ups and downs is the state of our nation, the future of our nation.

01:09:44.300 I have zero doubt that as between these two choices, he is so far superior.

01:09:50.480 He's the one we need and we can't let this woman win.

01:09:54.520 I mean, she absolutely cannot be the next president.

01:09:58.260 I just can't imagine the country with her at the helm.

01:10:00.340 So I felt like those tectonic plates reached their destination last night, like they continued moving.

01:10:08.820 And then there was a settling last night that, I don't know, it landed in a good and safe place.

01:10:15.140 And I like the ending to it.

01:10:17.520 And I don't know what the next step is.

01:10:18.960 It's tonight.

01:10:20.120 Hopefully that lands in a good place too.

01:10:21.760 But it is nice to know he and I are good, especially because I do respect him so much.

01:10:26.420 And I really admire his policies and I would love to have a good relationship with him, even though I am going to have to hit him from time to time, especially if he wins, Edward.

01:10:35.920 Well, that that debate moment, I didn't really like him that much.

01:10:39.360 And then that debate moment is what just totally turned me into a Trump guy.

01:10:43.160 It was that night and I was on board.

01:10:46.000 But the other thing I wanted to say, Megan, is that, you know, I was born in the early 80s.

01:10:50.320 And it feels like that America is gone now.

01:10:54.780 And I worry that my son gets to grow up in a great country that I've been.

01:11:00.380 Yeah, I'm losing you, but I got I got what you said.

01:11:05.320 You worry that your sons are not going to grow up in the great country that you did in the 80s.

01:11:09.300 I'm a little older than you are, but I yeah, I understand.

01:11:12.260 I was I was there in the 80s, too.

01:11:13.800 And it's great, great decade, great time to be alive.

01:11:17.020 So fun.

01:11:17.900 And I don't know, just our cares were different.

01:11:21.620 We had an identified outside enemy and we weren't looking at each other that way.

01:11:27.280 I don't know.

01:11:27.980 I don't see unity coming our way anytime soon, but I also don't believe we've, quote, never

01:11:32.840 been more divided than we are right now.

01:11:35.040 I think we've been divided more divided than this many times and we found our way back to

01:11:39.340 each other.

01:11:40.520 And I do think the press is to blame for a lot of it, a lot of it.

01:11:44.380 And I think the resettling amongst the press, too, is going to be great for this country.

01:11:49.000 It's already been great.

01:11:49.800 It's going to be even more great just as soon as these mainstream outlets officially die.

01:11:53.840 The most pernicious ones, it's going to be even greater because I do think

01:11:57.960 they commit election interference every day.

01:12:00.880 They, unlike yours truly, who will come out and say now, look, I'm telling you my bias.

01:12:04.440 I'm telling you who I'm voting for.

01:12:05.400 You can factor all that in when you listen to me.

01:12:07.000 They want you to believe their objective and they go out there and they lie.

01:12:09.760 They lie to you to try to get their chosen candidate elected without owning any of it.

01:12:14.340 So it's BS.

01:12:15.740 Do you guys hear?

01:12:16.540 Thank you for the call, Edward.

01:12:17.600 I'm going to take another one now.

01:12:18.700 But did you guys hear Oprah Winfrey?

01:12:21.680 She's turning into some sort of nutcase.

01:12:23.440 She's a nutcase.

01:12:25.120 Listen to her last night saying what she thinks the stakes are of this election.

01:12:29.580 We don't get to sit this one out.

01:12:38.220 If we don't show up tomorrow, it is entirely possible that we will not have the opportunity

01:12:46.780 to ever cast a ballot again.

01:12:49.840 We are voting to save ourselves from this precipice of danger.

01:12:59.280 Oprah, would you spare me the drama?

01:13:02.240 I realize you made a billion dollars in the drama business.

01:13:06.640 Your tears, which you could no longer produce anymore.

01:13:09.460 We all saw you run out of the tears.

01:13:11.020 You got a billion dollars.

01:13:12.000 You stop feeling empathy for the people who came on your show.

01:13:16.620 But we can see that you still have your acting skills.

01:13:19.520 You know, you also are a Hollywood movie star and we can see them in full display.

01:13:22.800 The drama like a 12 year old who's not going to get to go to the dance.

01:13:28.400 We're going to have elections again.

01:13:29.980 Just take a deep breath.

01:13:31.740 You're good.

01:13:32.800 May not turn out the way you want, but we're going to have another election.

01:13:36.380 Even if Kamala Harris wins, even if Donald Trump wins.

01:13:39.880 Deep breaths, my friend.

01:13:42.000 That's right.

01:13:45.020 Meditate your way through it.

01:13:46.160 Call your friend Deepak Chopra.

01:13:48.880 And Team Harris, could you calm down too?

01:13:51.580 Because you're just as hysterical as she is.

01:13:53.480 This is ridiculous.

01:13:54.960 Of course, we will have another election.

01:13:56.880 They don't think Trump will leave office.

01:13:58.280 That's what they're referring to.

01:13:59.140 They think Trump will take office.

01:14:00.100 Then he'll never leave office.

01:14:01.420 And by the way, if you really were scared of that, you probably shouldn't have indicted

01:14:04.400 him four times because that's what banana republics do.

01:14:07.120 And that's why dictators, which I know you feel Trump is wrongly, don't leave office

01:14:11.620 because they know they're going to be either killed or imprisoned.

01:14:14.060 You're turning us into that country.

01:14:15.860 So I really don't have a lot of time for your protestations about how we'll never get to

01:14:19.420 vote again.

01:14:20.200 It's not true.

01:14:21.660 But you are the ones who created any risk of that by treating our possible next president

01:14:26.440 like he's a felon.

01:14:27.960 OK, let's keep going.

01:14:30.500 North Carolina is another swing state.

01:14:32.320 And my next caller, Matthew, is from there.

01:14:35.700 Matthew, my note here says you're only 19 years old.

01:14:38.820 So that would mean this is your first presidential election.

01:14:41.620 So did you vote?

01:14:43.220 I sure did.

01:14:44.040 I just want to say first, I don't know if there's many young or young people watching,

01:14:49.540 but I just want to say I really love your show.

01:14:52.260 It's actually something I don't get through a lot of things.

01:14:54.440 My dad is one of the things that we love watching.

01:14:58.000 And I just love that also.

01:15:00.640 Yeah.

01:15:01.040 And I just want to take a moment to to encourage young people to vote, because a lot of things

01:15:07.020 that I see, you know, as a young person living in North Carolina, I used to live in New York

01:15:12.040 is the universities are so they they indoctrinate a lot of kids.

01:15:18.980 And I don't go to university, but I see it.

01:15:22.640 And as a young, you know, like the Democrats, you know, everything has to have a label, you

01:15:28.340 know.

01:15:28.540 So in that terms, you know, I'm a gay Trump supporter.

01:15:31.840 But I just I think it's so awesome just to turn out from young people and hopefully listening

01:15:38.460 to me, another young person encourages at least one person to go out.

01:15:41.840 How did you become how did you become a Trump voter as a young man?

01:15:45.420 Because, you know, yes, there's a gender gap, but young people tend to be more left leaning.

01:15:50.800 They get indoctrinated, as you point out, by the university.

01:15:53.220 So how did you hold firm against that?

01:15:56.460 Yeah.

01:15:56.820 Yeah. Yeah. So, um, well, first, um, I'm very, like, confident myself.

01:16:01.520 I believe in the notion of thinking for yourself and not letting someone else tell you how to

01:16:06.240 feel.

01:16:07.620 Radical.

01:16:08.180 And I think and I think what J.D.

01:16:11.560 Vance said on the Rogan podcast the other day, I know the left was up in arms like, oh,

01:16:16.420 my gosh, like, you can't say that.

01:16:17.760 Um, but it's true.

01:16:19.180 You know, he said he has a gay thing.

01:16:21.020 The normal gays will vote for Trump.

01:16:23.020 That, you know what?

01:16:24.640 He's talking about me because Trump has one ballot from a gay man.

01:16:28.360 That's me.

01:16:28.860 OK.

01:16:29.120 And, um, and I just, I love it.

01:16:33.180 And I'm sick and tired of, especially, like, and I just want to speak just for, like, the

01:16:38.520 LGBT, because that's just a prominent thing in my thing.

01:16:41.760 The Democrats have, like, and this is from my life experience.

01:16:46.140 And it made such, like, a bolster culture, um, you know, especially around young people

01:16:51.040 where, like, if you're voting for Trump and you're young, like, you better stay under

01:16:54.000 a rock, you know, because they're, they're, and, and it's just so sad.

01:16:57.860 And it's just, I just don't understand, like, you know, why can't you vote, you know, the

01:17:01.420 way, even if it's not for Trump, but, you know, the right isn't really the ones, you

01:17:05.740 know, pandering like that.

01:17:06.960 And, um, you know, and I, I just hope that, you know, people know that it's, it's, it's

01:17:13.540 important.

01:17:13.980 And if you look like, yeah, well, I mean, I think they, they, if they don't know that

01:17:18.180 by now, they're not going to know it because it's like, they've been hearing it from every

01:17:21.500 corner of every news outlet on alive, especially if you're in a swing state, I don't have to

01:17:25.500 tell you that the airwaves have been completely saturated, Matthew, congrats on your first

01:17:30.280 vote.

01:17:30.580 I think it's exciting.

01:17:31.520 And, uh, I'm happy to hear that you're out there fighting the good fight.

01:17:35.140 Please keep listening and say that to your dad for me too.

01:17:37.620 That's sweet.

01:17:38.740 Okay.

01:17:39.180 Let's, uh, let's stay in North Carolina and go over to Catherine who's on the line.

01:17:43.140 Hi, Catherine.

01:17:43.740 What's on your mind?

01:17:45.480 Hi, Megan.

01:17:46.340 How are you?

01:17:46.780 Thanks for taking my call.

01:17:48.680 My pleasure.

01:17:50.600 So as a, and I'm sure you could relate and I'm sure you could sympathize as a mother of

01:17:55.600 two teenagers, God, God bless this conversation.

01:17:59.760 They're conservative.

01:18:01.160 Alexandria just voted for the first time last week, but it's really disheartening when you

01:18:06.640 wait online for your child to vote.

01:18:09.720 And she asked you, you know, mom, I've been seeing these videos on Instagram of people

01:18:14.460 having a hard time voting.

01:18:16.460 And these Chinese, this recent story with a Chinese nationalist that, you know, his vote

01:18:21.660 counted.

01:18:22.200 And she looked at me and she said, I just waited for three hours online.

01:18:24.940 And it's disheartening to see that it might not count because of all these fraudulent

01:18:29.360 votes.

01:18:30.400 And unfortunately it's baked into the cake, but from a legal standpoint, what can the administration

01:18:37.380 do?

01:18:38.260 God forbid the Republicans lose tonight.

01:18:41.740 What can the administration do to combat that and make sure it doesn't happen in the

01:18:45.280 future?

01:18:45.560 Cause it was really sad to hear that from my first time voter.

01:18:49.460 Yeah.

01:18:51.400 I mean, I understand it's the problem with that guy.

01:18:53.740 If memory serves in reading the story, he, the vote had already been counted and was kind

01:18:58.440 of in the mix and there was no way of figuring out how he had voted, you know, for whom he

01:19:03.180 had voted.

01:19:03.680 So it's, it's the one, but they maintain the, you know, the folks who run these election

01:19:09.180 precincts that they're, what we're trying to prevent is any sort of election affecting

01:19:14.920 rigging of the vote election affecting fraud in the vote.

01:19:19.060 And that the instances of fraud or somebody voting who shouldn't be voting like an illegal

01:19:24.020 or, you know, somebody who's not a citizen, uh, is, are there, there's few and far between

01:19:28.460 and definitely not enough to actually change outcomes.

01:19:31.260 I, I know people have serious doubts about that.

01:19:34.260 All I can tell you is that I'm very well aware that Trump's team, uh, had, they've been

01:19:39.840 precinct to precinct in the sweet swing States for the last four years.

01:19:43.020 As you know, Trump genuinely believes, not everyone agrees that he lost the last election

01:19:49.080 quote unquote, because it was stolen from him that he didn't actually lose.

01:19:52.480 And so he's had teams in the various counties of the various swing States trying to put pressure

01:19:58.100 on election, um, officials to make sure that they understand they have a duty not to certify

01:20:03.340 these elections.

01:20:03.900 If there's a question about fraud in the vote.

01:20:06.320 So they do have eyes on these precincts in a way they didn't 20, you know, in 2020, and

01:20:13.160 it's never going to be perfect.

01:20:14.480 It's never going to be perfect.

01:20:15.800 It could be so much better though.

01:20:17.580 So I guess we're, we're sort of trying not to let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

01:20:22.560 Uh, I don't know, Catherine, we'll have to watch.

01:20:24.640 Cause the one thing I'll say is like, if it's down to the wire, if it's Bush V Gore stuff,

01:20:28.760 like 536 votes or whatever it was, all hell's going to break loose.

01:20:33.360 If it's a landslide victory, one way or the other, maybe we'll have more peace and calm.

01:20:39.020 Oh, famous last words.

01:20:41.300 Thank you for calling.

01:20:43.080 Um, okay, let's go over to Arizona.

01:20:46.140 That's a swing state.

01:20:46.980 And Brian is there, Brian, what are you seeing on the ground there?

01:20:51.020 Uh, hi Megan.

01:20:51.980 Uh, so I went to my, uh, nearby polling place this morning, um, even though I already early

01:20:57.200 voted, um, and I just did that to observe because, um, got a mailer advertising that

01:21:03.960 there was going to be a DJ and that just kind of threw some red flags for me.

01:21:07.480 And I sounded like that would be right for electioneering.

01:21:10.980 Um, and when I got there, um, the parking lot was pretty packed.

01:21:15.300 Um, but the polling line itself was very short.

01:21:19.820 Um, I do live in a more blue leaning district in Northern Phoenix.

01:21:23.700 Um, but that's just kind of what I've been seeing.

01:21:25.480 And, um, as far as what I'm feeling, I'm feeling, uh, cautiously optimistic, um, not just for

01:21:32.160 the presidential, but definitely, uh, down ballot here in, uh, Maricopa County.

01:21:38.140 Hmm.

01:21:38.980 I think that's where Charlie's based, Charlie Kirk, not loving the tweet he sent out.

01:21:44.420 Not sure if you heard me read it saying turnout is mixed.

01:21:48.480 He, this isn't specific to Arizona, but I just think that's where his home base is.

01:21:52.420 Turnout is mixed, not where we want it to be.

01:21:55.220 We need more people to vote.

01:21:57.040 We can't let turnout flatline.

01:21:58.840 Text everyone, you know, make more noise.

01:22:00.760 We need more.

01:22:02.540 That's disconcerting.

01:22:03.680 Is it, does it not match up with what you saw in terms of the lines and so on?

01:22:08.360 I mean, of course he's talking about Republicans.

01:22:11.940 I don't, I haven't seen his tweets, so I can't necessarily comment on them.

01:22:16.040 Um, I moved into this, uh, where I'm at now, uh, shortly before the, uh, 22 midterms.

01:22:21.700 And, um, I know like the, the, the parking lot this morning was a lot more packed than

01:22:26.460 it was when I voted in the 22 midterms and, um, the primary earlier this year, every earlier

01:22:34.280 this year.

01:22:35.080 Um, but I also know like where I live, it's definitely more, uh, favorable towards the Democrats.

01:22:42.160 Um, so I, uh, with all that, very little turnout, yeah, it's kind of hard.

01:22:48.420 We're just not going to know.

01:22:49.460 And it's such a weird election.

01:22:50.900 It's, I don't remember another election like this, where in 24 hours, the Dems could control

01:22:55.920 the house, the Senate and the white house, or the Republicans could that all three could

01:23:01.980 potentially be swung one way or another.

01:23:05.380 So there is just so much at stake and there's only one way to secure the W and that is to

01:23:11.140 get out there and not just assume somebody else will do it.

01:23:15.200 It can't be all up to Brian in Arizona, but thank you for calling Brian with your, with

01:23:19.800 your thoughts.

01:23:20.740 Um, let's go to Delaware.

01:23:22.900 Joe Biden's Joe Biden as the, uh, Saturday night live version of Kamala says it Joe Biden's

01:23:28.020 home state, Delaware, Barbara, what's on your mind?

01:23:31.880 Yes, I am from Delaware surrounded by what we're 75% Democrat here.

01:23:37.780 I feel like I don't have a voice.

01:23:40.420 Um, I don't dare say I'm a Trump supporter.

01:23:43.420 I've lost a couple of friends over it.

01:23:45.700 Um, but, uh, so I know Delaware is going Democrat.

01:23:49.320 I do know that.

01:23:50.620 However, um, I have to say as a woman, I was so proud to hear you speak last night at Trump's

01:23:59.020 rally.

01:23:59.440 You were strong.

01:24:00.300 You were well-spoken.

01:24:02.980 Um, I don't know.

01:24:04.460 It is very, very, very impressive to me as a fellow woman.

01:24:09.200 You're welcome.

01:24:10.860 And, um, yes, I always wanted to go to Trump rally.

01:24:15.520 Never had a chance.

01:24:16.360 I'm, I'm blind and it's hard for me to kind of get out and do things.

01:24:20.240 But, um, I was wondering, I had a question for you.

01:24:25.240 What did you feel the temperature was amongst Trump, his family and supporters at that rally

01:24:32.920 last night, as far as his hopes and expectations for winning?

01:24:37.800 Very bullish, very bullish.

01:24:39.880 They have internals that they feel great about.

01:24:42.180 It did not seem to be spin to me.

01:24:45.460 They acknowledged that it's tight.

01:24:47.540 No one there was saying it's going to be a landslide.

01:24:50.780 Um, they're showing tight races as well, but with him in the lead.

01:24:54.360 And I think they feel, they feel very confident.

01:24:56.900 So, and it didn't seem like BS, you know, they weren't even like hedging about, well, you

01:25:02.180 know, if we win, it was just kind of like where they're, they're forward thinking.

01:25:05.460 They weren't counting chickens either, but I don't know.

01:25:07.860 I just did not get the sense that these people have seen bad data for them at all to the

01:25:12.020 contrary.

01:25:12.880 It felt like the opposite.

01:25:14.820 Now, who knows?

01:25:16.480 Because one of the things we were talking about was how in 16, their messaging from, you know,

01:25:22.740 their, their internals, from the people they knew in the Republican party was all negative.

01:25:29.580 He's going to lose.

01:25:30.660 They thought what we all thought, uh, going into that evening's coverage.

01:25:34.740 And then he didn't.

01:25:35.780 So it's very hard to know, you know, like, how do we know who's turning out?

01:25:41.980 How do we know whether these pollsters know, as they say, their behinds from their elbows,

01:25:46.420 you know, they're all just throwing darts at a board.

01:25:48.720 And it's just so aggravating when you read, Oh, the New York times.

01:25:52.020 Okay.

01:25:52.260 Yes.

01:25:52.520 They project Kamala Harris wins.

01:25:53.720 Oh, but then they admit that they heavily over-polled Democrats.

01:25:58.060 So we have to take the whole thing with a massive grain of salt.

01:26:01.180 And then it's like, you know, you read another poll and it's like, Oh, well, um, you know,

01:26:05.840 they may, they may have found a whole new contingent of Democrat voters that nobody else

01:26:10.920 has seen in the other polls, like in that Iowa poll, who knows what to believe, you know,

01:26:15.100 who knows what to believe soon enough.

01:26:16.700 We'll know one way or the other.

01:26:17.680 And that's what we're going to have to bank on.

01:26:19.860 I listen, Barbara, that is, that's so sweet of you to say about last night.

01:26:24.180 And I'm sorry that you can't see it, but I hope in listening to it, you got a kick out

01:26:30.180 of it because I would say, I think Trump's personality is probably very easy to discern

01:26:35.900 even with just your ears, uh, and not, you know, your eyes.

01:26:40.660 I I'll bet you've got a great vision in your head of how he is and what we experienced last

01:26:46.380 night.

01:26:46.600 I do.

01:26:48.160 Thank you, Megan.

01:26:50.020 Oh, well, thank you so much.

01:26:51.740 I appreciate you listening to the show and maybe we'll talk, we'll do another call later

01:26:55.840 this week where we can talk about results.

01:26:58.880 Scary.

01:26:59.660 We're going to take a quick break.

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01:29:20.220 It's fun talking to all of you.

01:29:27.100 It's funny because a friend of mine, she laughs because she's like, oh, she's like, Meg, I know

01:29:33.640 you so well because I listen to her every day, but it's not exactly two way.

01:29:37.380 So I like that now it goes both ways and I get to hear from some of the great people who

01:29:42.500 tune into the show every day.

01:29:43.820 It's a great opportunity for me to get to know all of you.

01:29:46.500 I always have the same impression literally every time, and that is how smart the audience

01:29:50.280 is.

01:29:51.000 Not that I ever doubted you, but seriously, it's like sometimes when I was a lawyer and

01:29:56.440 you'd like pull the jurors afterwards, you speak with the jurors after, you'd be slightly

01:29:59.700 horrified.

01:30:00.340 You'd want to wrap it up really quickly.

01:30:03.160 I never have that feeling when I get to talk to this audience.

01:30:05.620 I'm always like, oh my gosh, I've got to up my game.

01:30:09.060 Smart, thoughtful, well-informed group, and I'm sure that goes well beyond listening to

01:30:14.940 our show.

01:30:15.340 I want to tell you this news update.

01:30:18.180 In Cambria County, Pennsylvania, there are voting issues that are making news.

01:30:22.040 Pennsylvania, I say.

01:30:23.440 People are now using paper ballots after a software malfunction.

01:30:27.740 We have to watch all of this stuff.

01:30:29.100 Let's not forget what happened with Carrie Lake in Arizona.

01:30:31.280 This stuff can lead to just very bad questions about elections.

01:30:36.560 Laura Trump, an ex who runs the RNC, says they have secured a court order extending voting

01:30:42.240 hours there until 10 p.m.

01:30:44.020 She tells the voters, stay in line.

01:30:47.140 If you're in Cambria or Cambria County, Pennsylvania, stay in line.

01:30:51.940 They're fixing it and they're extending the voting hours.

01:30:54.340 I know it's long.

01:30:56.400 And if you're in Michigan or Wisconsin, it's apparently thunderstorming there today.

01:31:01.400 No one wants to be out in that.

01:31:03.020 Please stay in line.

01:31:03.960 God bless you.

01:31:04.560 I know it's easy for me to say, I'm in this studio, but we need you.

01:31:07.840 We need you.

01:31:08.980 Please.

01:31:09.760 If it's like, think of, think of like our soldiers and the sacrifices they make.

01:31:12.880 You can do just a few more hours out there.

01:31:14.960 Please forgive me for asking this of you, but we need every single vote.

01:31:18.740 I mean that there's so much riding on it.

01:31:21.240 So, um, okay, going to, going to go back to some of our calls and we got a lot of, a lot

01:31:27.720 of folks on the line today.

01:31:28.640 This is kind of exciting.

01:31:29.900 Uh, Ellen in Pennsylvania, what are you seeing?

01:31:32.680 And did you, did you vote yet, Ellen?

01:31:35.760 Not, um, not yet, Megan, but I'm going this afternoon with my husband and my two daughters.

01:31:42.920 Good, good, good, good for you.

01:31:45.620 So what's on your mind?

01:31:47.040 What are you thinking about today?

01:31:48.900 Well, I just want to tell you, I'd listen to you every day.

01:31:52.080 I saw you last, last night at the Pittsburgh, uh, rally with Donald Trump.

01:31:59.440 He is amazing and he's so authentic and he's, how his concern for America is beyond.

01:32:09.380 He's amazing.

01:32:10.780 He's a wonderful man.

01:32:12.920 Yeah, he, he was amazing and it's incredible how much he gives of himself to entertain the

01:32:18.080 crowd.

01:32:18.380 And so funny.

01:32:19.400 I wish my husband Doug were here because he does a great Trump imitation.

01:32:23.100 He did this bit last night.

01:32:24.660 Trump did about, you know, how Imane Khalif, that boxer who won gold in the Olympics did

01:32:30.060 turn out to be male, just as we told you here on the MK show, not a surprise to our viewers.

01:32:35.160 Uh, but yeah, there was some report leaked showing that he has undescended testicles and

01:32:40.240 a micro penis.

01:32:41.320 Sorry.

01:32:41.520 It's a lot.

01:32:41.940 And, um, Trump brought it up last night and was like, yeah, it's a man.

01:32:46.160 Can you believe?

01:32:46.840 And he's like, uh, I can't do the Trump impression the way Doug can, but he's like, now they're

01:32:51.620 letting them box.

01:32:52.740 They're letting them, but they're letting them beat up the women.

01:32:55.460 Just a little jab, just a little jab of a beautiful woman.

01:32:59.740 Anyway, he is funny.

01:33:01.940 And, uh, whatever happens tonight, uh, whatever happens tonight, we are going to miss Trump when

01:33:05.660 he leaves the national scene, Ellen, I'm sure you feel it too.

01:33:10.020 True.

01:33:10.660 Very, very true.

01:33:11.620 And not only is Danica Patrick, a bad-ass you are as well.

01:33:17.840 And I can't say, so you're wonderful.

01:33:22.180 You're awesome.

01:33:24.420 You really are.

01:33:25.760 Thank you.

01:33:27.360 Thank you so much.

01:33:28.680 Really, really appreciate it.

01:33:29.940 And listen, you guys make it easy on me because, um, I know you get it.

01:33:33.900 I, I never have to lower my conversation.

01:33:38.040 I only have to elevate it to meet the thinking minds that are taking in this show.

01:33:42.800 And that challenges me every day to do better, you know, go shoot higher, uh, never underestimate

01:33:50.060 my audience and keep plugging away.

01:33:51.500 And we've got just the team for it.

01:33:52.720 So Ellen, thank you.

01:33:53.800 Thanks so much for listening and for your kindness.

01:33:56.160 Um, I'll tell you something funny.

01:33:57.640 You guys last night, as I said, we brought our kids and, um, I guess my mom, my, my mom

01:34:04.500 is 83.

01:34:05.100 She's hilarious.

01:34:06.040 She's coming this weekend, so I'm sure I'll have plenty of stories for you, but she decided

01:34:09.960 to text my 15 year old Yates to find out what was going on.

01:34:14.260 And she wanted to find out how she could watch the show with Trump.

01:34:18.820 So he texts her saying, did you get the program on?

01:34:21.720 I'm reading from his texts.

01:34:22.540 And she says, I got it on.

01:34:24.420 I'm still waiting.

01:34:25.520 Is she coming on?

01:34:26.980 Is there a time she's on?

01:34:28.420 He writes, she's coming on soon.

01:34:29.900 Trump will call her up.

01:34:31.520 Thanks, honey.

01:34:32.180 Then she says her dad would be so proud as I am.

01:34:35.100 That's sweet, mom.

01:34:36.400 Then Yates responds.

01:34:37.560 Yeah, we are so proud.

01:34:38.760 That's sweet, Yates, sir.

01:34:40.480 Then my mom writes, hot damn.

01:34:42.960 That's right.

01:34:45.000 My mom.

01:34:46.900 She's so funny.

01:34:48.760 And then that was after, I guess I spoke.

01:34:51.020 And then my son responded.

01:34:52.200 That was awesome.

01:34:52.900 Did you see it all?

01:34:53.740 And once again, she wrote, hot damn.

01:34:56.260 Maybe we'll have dinner at the White House.

01:34:57.780 My mom makes me laugh.

01:35:03.420 You guys would absolutely love her.

01:35:06.560 I'm going to try to get her on video today or this weekend when she comes.

01:35:11.100 I just had Abby pour me a cup of coffee.

01:35:12.980 I never drink a cup of coffee during the show.

01:35:15.320 Man, I'm tired.

01:35:16.960 We didn't go to bed till 12.15.

01:35:18.140 I shouldn't bitch because Trump was out till 2.15 and he's 78.

01:35:21.720 But I, you know, the old gray mare, folks, she ain't what she used to be.

01:35:25.200 I'm tired.

01:35:26.520 I woke up.

01:35:27.280 I'm not over the damn daylight savings.

01:35:28.780 Are you?

01:35:29.440 I wake up at 4.15, which is really 5.15, which is on the early side anyway.

01:35:34.220 I didn't even want to be waking up at 5.15, never mind 4.15.

01:35:37.300 So I enjoyed my four hours of sleep.

01:35:39.680 By the way, right now I'm seeing a picture of Andy McCarthy and he endorsed Trump of National

01:35:43.840 Review.

01:35:44.140 He endorsed Trump today, which is great because he's not a huge Trump fan.

01:35:47.020 But he said, as between these two, there's absolutely no question.

01:35:49.900 Vote Trump.

01:35:51.740 Okay, let's see.

01:35:52.580 Um, how's about going down to, well, wait, Washington, looks like Washington state, not

01:35:58.960 Washington, D.C.

01:35:59.760 And Courtney, Courtney, Washington state, you're all blue, like those of us here in Connecticut.

01:36:05.960 So we kind of know the outcome, but what's your, what's your experience of this election?

01:36:09.840 Well, Washington, yeah, Washington state's a lost cause because we've had mail-in ballots

01:36:14.240 for years.

01:36:15.460 And, uh, whenever they, whenever we'll never have another Republican governor because whenever

01:36:20.300 they have a close campaign, they keep finding more boxes of ballots until a Democrat wins.

01:36:25.900 But for all of that, I'm watching these ads.

01:36:30.040 And what I'd really like to see is some authentic system of fact checking.

01:36:35.260 I'm sick of the lying in the political ads.

01:36:37.980 I hear them lying and, and I'm yelling at the television, but it doesn't really help.

01:36:42.920 And I'd like to have somebody saying, you know, that's just a blatant lie.

01:36:48.040 Now, when Trump was on the stage with Harris and she lied, he should have shut up and said,

01:36:53.220 I'm not talking to your fact checker.

01:36:55.300 And he could have taken control of that.

01:36:57.080 Oh, that would have been great.

01:36:57.860 Yeah, it would have mattered.

01:36:59.300 No, the ads are terrible.

01:37:00.860 That one, we played it yesterday just to show people how dishonest they are, but about the

01:37:04.540 woman writhing in pain as she's allegedly dying from a needed abortion that, that the doctor

01:37:08.940 refuses to give.

01:37:09.680 What a lie.

01:37:11.300 There is no state in the union that will not perform an abortion to save the life of the

01:37:14.540 mother.

01:37:15.000 There is no state in the union that will not perform an abortion to save the life of the

01:37:18.620 mother and no such law ever mandating something that overrode the life of the mother would

01:37:25.140 ever be upheld as, as constitution, just absolute absurdities.

01:37:29.160 Courtney, thank you for fighting the good fight from deep blue Washington state.

01:37:35.240 Okay, listen, I'm going to take the last minute that we have here and just remind you to

01:37:39.120 tune in tonight.

01:37:40.200 A lot of people are starting at seven.

01:37:41.780 We decided to start at eight because we're not going to know anything at seven.

01:37:44.600 We don't want to waste your time just vamping about stuff.

01:37:46.960 That's absolute filler.

01:37:48.080 So we're going to come on at eight when we might actually have some real data and we're

01:37:51.900 going to have everybody.

01:37:53.220 We're going to have polling gurus.

01:37:55.080 We're going to have data gurus who know how to read the county by county stuff.

01:37:58.580 You know, there's some of which we discussed earlier, like how are Virginia three and Virginia

01:38:02.960 seven looking and what can we glean?

01:38:05.120 We're going to follow up on things like the Charlie Kirk tweet, which might just be not

01:38:10.060 engagement farming, but like a preset tweet to get you out, you know, like doesn't necessarily

01:38:14.100 telegraph problems, but clearly he wants people out.

01:38:16.300 And so do we please go.

01:38:18.800 And we're going to have all your favorites.

01:38:21.780 I mean, Ben Shapiro is going to swing by Vivek Ramaswamy is going to be here.

01:38:25.920 We're going to have the EJs.

01:38:28.800 VDH will be joining us.

01:38:30.500 I mean, basically everybody, you know, in love from the MK show.

01:38:34.480 And then we'll go through it together.

01:38:37.400 We'll be on as long as it takes and we'll redo it again tomorrow if necessary.

01:38:42.620 Thank you all for trusting us on this day.

01:38:45.420 And we'll see you tonight at eight.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - November 05, 2024

Megyn Goes Behind-The-Scenes of Her Trump Rally Speech, Plus Key States to Watch, with Henry Olsen ｜ Ep. 935

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