The Megyn Kelly Show - Megyn Kelly Goes After Paris Fashion Week, Mahmoud Khalil, Sarah McBride, Sen. Elissa Slotkin, and More ｜ Ep. 1027

00:00:00.480 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.020 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and a special weekend edition.

00:00:18.140 I'm taping this on Friday afternoon. I've been with my kids and Doug all week on spring break,

00:00:23.560 came back on Friday and did an hour live with the audience on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111.

00:00:30.140 On our special series on Baby Lisa, a case we will continue to follow.

00:00:35.640 But it's been such a busy news week that I'm here with this special episode just to break down

00:00:40.820 some of the stories that were driving me insane this week.

00:00:44.760 And then we're going to start with the new show on Monday with Glenn Greenwald.

00:00:49.120 At that point, I will still be on spring break, but not on vacation.

00:00:52.700 I will be moving locations, but I will not be on vacation.

00:00:55.860 But I just needed to get to a couple of these stories, which are not evergreen.

00:00:59.040 And I needed to talk to you about them before they got old and before Glenn gets here,

00:01:04.380 some of which he'll have no interest in, some of which he will.

00:01:07.500 All right, we're going to get to all of it.

00:01:09.060 So let me just dig right in.

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00:02:17.080 Number one, and I'm sure Glenn and I are going to be discussing this,

00:02:19.580 the left is melting down over the Trump administration's attempt to deport this leader

00:02:24.960 of this shockingly anti-Semitic group on the campus of Columbia University.

00:02:31.840 And his name is Mahmoud Khalil, K-H-A-L-I-L. 0.94

00:02:37.180 He has been arrested.

00:02:39.280 He has had his student visa withdrawn, and he has had his green card withdrawn.

00:02:44.180 And the left has made him into Rosa Parks, that he is a civil rights figure of our time,

00:02:51.560 that he was simply exercising his right to free speech,

00:02:54.560 and that this is an unfair and disgusting crackdown on it.

00:02:58.080 And it's not just the left.

00:02:59.740 It's some people, I mean, Glenn is of the left, but, you know,

00:03:03.440 obviously makes a ton of sense, and we love Glenn, and he's a lawyer, and he's smart.

00:03:07.240 I would say he's much more antagonistic to Israel than most of the people on the right are.

00:03:12.440 And that's fine, totally fine.

00:03:14.760 But he is definitely defensive of Khalil here, saying that this is unconstitutional,

00:03:21.180 what the government's doing to him.

00:03:22.220 It's a crackdown on free speech.

00:03:23.420 And he's not the only one.

00:03:25.000 Our friends over at FIRE, which is big on campus free speech,

00:03:29.720 they are against what the Trump administration is doing to Khalil.

00:03:33.400 Ricky Schlott, who interned for our show, writes for the New York Post now,

00:03:36.720 and also co-wrote a book with the guy who runs FIRE.

00:03:41.220 She's been posting against it.

00:03:43.000 There are some folks on the right who have free speech concerns about what's happening here.

00:03:47.220 So it's not just a leftist issue.

00:03:49.460 But having taken a few days to look at the law, 0.99

00:03:52.540 I have zero qualms about this guy getting his ass booted back to Syria. 0.99

00:03:58.860 Goodbye, Khalil. 0.99

00:04:00.260 Enjoy Syria, or wherever you wind up. 0.99

00:04:02.900 I really don't give a shit where it is. 0.99

00:04:05.280 He got a golden ticket into the United States of America. 0.99

00:04:11.540 We gave him a student visa.

00:04:13.760 He got into one of our most prestigious universities.

00:04:17.360 We let him study alongside American kids who were the next generation of leadership.

00:04:23.400 And what did he do?

00:04:24.700 He decided to join up with this group that is, without a question, pro-Hamas. 0.93

00:04:31.300 That was allegedly distributing pro-Hamas pamphlets, leaflets, promotional materials.

00:04:39.360 He was extremely defensive of what had been done by Hamas on 10-7.

00:04:47.180 And he recognized that even though he was here on a temporary status,

00:04:52.960 yes, we give him a green card, but that you're not a citizen yet,

00:04:55.320 that he should be in a more of a supportive role for this organization that was organizing

00:05:00.560 to hell on Columbia's campus. 0.93

00:05:02.780 But he still took part.

00:05:04.600 He couldn't quite keep it together long enough to get citizenship.

00:05:08.300 It was that important to him.

00:05:09.960 And so by his own admission, he was a spokesperson for the group that was on Columbia's campus

00:05:16.200 last year causing all the havoc.

00:05:19.320 Were they there to protest all the dead babies in Israel?

00:05:23.540 No, they weren't.

00:05:25.460 They actually looked at that as an acceptable form of armed resistance.

00:05:30.340 We heard that from Khalil's own mouth, at least according to a fellow student at Columbia

00:05:35.620 who posted a video of him speaking for the group whose spokesman he was,

00:05:41.020 justifying armed resistance against Israel.

00:05:44.480 This is, again, post-10-7.

00:05:46.660 Columbia student David Lederer posted this on X on March 11th.

00:05:49.760 It's a little hard to hear, but try to listen here in SOT 14A.

00:05:52.360 As you've said, you've seen, like, Palestinians have tried multiple sources of resistance,

00:05:59.680 whether it is armed, unarmed resistance, peaceful, whatever.

00:06:04.360 But Israel and the propaganda always find, like, something to attack. 0.78

00:06:09.680 Like, they tried armed resistance, which is, again, legitimate and international law.

00:06:15.000 But, again, Israel is, and it is terrorism. 0.98

00:06:18.380 Okay, so what you heard there is Palestinians have tried multiple forms of resistance,

00:06:24.360 whether it's armed, unarmed resistance, peaceful, whatever.

00:06:26.800 But Israel and their propaganda always find something to attack. 0.68

00:06:30.020 We tried armed resistance, which is, again, legitimate under international law.

00:06:34.620 But, again, Israel, it is terrorism. 0.95

00:06:37.200 So that's, okay, that's a point of view.

00:06:40.160 We don't have to actually support him in that point of view,

00:06:43.720 because what he's really doing there is endorsing Hamas and its terror tactics.

00:06:49.220 And endorsing a terrorist group now gets you on to even shakier ground.

00:06:53.760 Okay, but we're still in speech.

00:06:55.020 So he's still on firmer, you know, terra firma versus what actually is going to get him deported.

00:07:01.180 I'm just giving you background on who this guy is.

00:07:03.080 So then he goes and he decides to be the spokesperson for the group that took over Hamilton Hall,

00:07:09.580 that had campus encampments, that made it difficult for Jewish students to pass from A to B on the campus of Columbia,

00:07:17.040 that made it impossible for anyone, Jewish students, professors, cops, to enter Hamilton Hall,

00:07:24.580 a facility for which all students pay, including the Jews. 0.92

00:07:29.160 But they weren't wanted, because this group took over Hamilton Hall, acted like a bunch of thugs,

00:07:35.700 put barricades up against the doors, smashed windows with their cafeas on,

00:07:42.960 and effectively held hostage for a time a couple of security guards who were in the building,

00:07:49.180 including, you know, guys, maintenance workers who weren't making a lot of dough,

00:07:53.460 who felt personally threatened.

00:07:54.560 But here's some video, just in case you have forgotten, about what his darling little student

00:07:59.400 group that he's the spokesman for, he was the negotiator for, did at Columbia last year.

00:08:04.780 The caption reads, from our side of the barricades.

00:08:19.320 And sure enough, it's all these cafea-wearing Columbia students screaming and leaning,

00:08:24.120 full-body leaning against the doors, large wooden doors, and there are several sets of them,

00:08:29.420 into Hamilton Hall, free, free Palestine, as they chant.

00:08:33.640 Students, hold your ground!

00:08:35.760 Students, hold your ground!

00:08:37.680 N.Y.P.D. back down!

00:08:39.600 N.Y.P.D. back down!

00:08:41.520 Granddad!

00:08:42.560 N.Y.P.D. back down!

00:08:44.480 N.Y.P.D. back down!

00:08:47.300 They've got ladders, but they're using the barricade.

00:08:50.440 The doors, stun grenades now are going off.

00:08:57.100 It's Bedlam.

00:08:59.400 Cops are trying to get in.

00:09:00.640 Let us not dialogue with our persecutors. 0.99

00:09:08.100 They're called police officers, and when they tell you to sit your ass down, you do it. 0.97

00:09:13.800 Or you get arrested, or possibly deported, Khalil. 0.79

00:09:18.360 Now, he was smart enough not to actually go, as far as we know, to that particular event,

00:09:22.760 because he was trying to become one of us.

00:09:25.600 He was trying to become a U.S. citizen.

00:09:27.760 It's a no, okay?

00:09:29.380 It's a no, sir.

00:09:30.680 Enjoy Syria. 0.97

00:09:32.560 Zero chance he's becoming an American citizen now.

00:09:34.860 But he wants to hold on to that green card, and he wants to stay here in the United States.

00:09:38.120 And he says, oh, I'm married, I'm married to an American, and I'm expecting an American baby.

00:09:42.080 Should have thought of that before last year.

00:09:44.680 Bye.

00:09:45.500 Get out.

00:09:46.460 Who the hell feels sorry for this guy?

00:09:48.200 He'll do fine in Syria. 0.84

00:09:49.240 His ideology seems to parallel perfectly what he will find over there.

00:09:54.260 You'll love it.

00:09:55.100 Sharia law, you can find it in lots of places in the Middle East.

00:09:58.440 Take your pick.

00:09:59.420 But not here in America.

00:10:02.120 Bye.

00:10:03.300 So what did he do?

00:10:05.740 He acted as the liaison between this lawless student group and the university.

00:10:13.860 And continued to go into, this is our understanding as of this date.

00:10:16.460 There hasn't been a full recitation of it, but I've spent the weekend poring through the

00:10:19.880 reports and what we do know about him.

00:10:22.320 And it appears, there's no question he was the spokesperson for this group that was behind

00:10:25.840 the encampments and behind the taking of Hamilton Hall.

00:10:28.180 And he was in there with the administrators, apparently on a daily basis, saying, basically,

00:10:33.420 you give us what we want, which is to divest Colombia from all of Israel, or you get more 0.99

00:10:39.100 Hamilton Halls.

00:10:40.060 Do you understand?

00:10:41.600 And Andy McCarthy of National Review has had a couple of great pieces of this, on this,

00:10:45.220 one on Fox News, one on NR.

00:10:47.180 And he likened this to the guy, Robert Duvall character in The Godfather, Tom Hogan, who

00:10:55.740 went over to see the movie producer, who wouldn't cast the Frank Sinatra-like character in that

00:11:00.540 movie, in his movie.

00:11:02.280 And, you know, just kind of like, it'd be great if you'd cast him.

00:11:05.820 You know, I'd love it if you'd cast him.

00:11:07.320 Yeah?

00:11:07.440 I'm not, I'm not muscle.

00:11:09.600 I'm just the lawyer.

00:11:10.720 But, geez, we'd really appreciate it if you cast him in this role.

00:11:14.720 And the Hollywood guy's like, no, F off.

00:11:18.460 Nobody tells me how to cast my movies.

00:11:20.180 And then he got a head horse in his bed.

00:11:22.360 His favorite racing horse wound up with its bloody head in his bed in one of the most infamous

00:11:27.780 or famous scenes from that movie.

00:11:29.620 Most memorable, for sure.

00:11:30.960 And it's as if you have that guy saying, well, I just, it was speech.

00:11:37.280 All I said is, I'm not here to threaten you, but, you know, we'd really appreciate it if

00:11:43.340 you put him, if you put him in.

00:11:45.040 You know, it's a threat.

00:11:46.900 You're acting as the muscle.

00:11:49.200 You really are the implicit muscle for a terror group, a lawless group and a terror group,

00:11:56.060 frankly, on Columbia campus.

00:11:57.840 This guy was in there saying, you divest from Israel or you get the hose again.

00:12:03.880 You get it?

00:12:05.060 That's how this is going to go down.

00:12:06.740 He was the guy doing that.

00:12:08.640 And even the Columbia administrators, the farthest left people you could probably find in America,

00:12:14.620 kept saying, no, we're not going to do that, Khalil.

00:12:17.540 No, your requests are a little bit much, even for us.

00:12:20.920 And the student group would not disband.

00:12:23.360 And that is why the NYPD had to break down the doors with stun grenades. 0.99

00:12:29.620 None of that shit is lawful. 0.98

00:12:31.540 They were guilty of trespassing, of resisting arrest, of destruction of property. 0.99

00:12:37.320 There may have been assaults there.

00:12:39.180 There have been plenty of criminal charges that have been unleashed on some 40 plus people who

00:12:45.180 participated in what we saw there on camera and the related events.

00:12:49.900 Now, Khalil may or may not have been one of them.

00:12:53.220 I don't know.

00:12:54.480 I know he has joined a motion to stop the university from releasing what it knows about

00:13:00.900 Khalil to the federal government, which is trying to find out right now.

00:13:06.020 He and some handful of others have just filed a motion trying to stop the university from

00:13:10.620 revealing the full extent of what they know about Khalil.

00:13:13.560 Good luck with that.

00:13:14.780 OK, if you didn't do anything that's problematic, it was just speech.

00:13:17.700 It was just your little speeches, your thoughts.

00:13:20.400 Why would you want to stop it from going to the feds?

00:13:23.000 You should actually be thrilled to see that go.

00:13:26.060 You should be like, it's speech.

00:13:27.080 Hello.

00:13:27.720 I'm practically an American.

00:13:28.940 I've got my green card.

00:13:30.140 All I did was speak words, pro Hamas words, but they were words. 0.81

00:13:34.300 No, there's a reason he doesn't want that stuff released.

00:13:37.640 And by the way, there is a question.

00:13:39.580 Even if it's just words, there is a question about whether he could be deported, notwithstanding

00:13:43.180 the fact that he's got a green card.

00:13:45.000 Go listen to Andy McCarthy and his podcast on NR.

00:13:48.780 It's well worth your time.

00:13:49.940 And he talks about how this is what jihadists do and have been planning to do in America

00:13:54.580 for a very long time.

00:13:55.940 They try to get into the country. 0.96

00:13:57.760 They try to take advantage of our laws and our constitution, which is very permissive

00:14:02.220 when it comes to the expression of ideas and the freedom of assembly.

00:14:06.300 And then they try to martyr themselves and bit by bit change the law just to make it a bit

00:14:10.460 more flexible, a little bit better for their side.

00:14:12.460 And so there is a real reason for the secretary of state to be able to say, I consider that

00:14:19.640 person, not yet a citizen, a threat to the foreign policy of the United States of America.

00:14:25.560 How so?

00:14:26.360 Because we don't wish to send the message to other countries that they can send their jihad

00:14:31.400 lovers over here to congregate on American campuses and try to convert our youngsters who

00:14:38.620 are impressionable young teenagers for at least the first half of college into joining the jihad.

00:14:44.900 Totally valid POV.

00:14:47.680 And there's no question the secretary of state has the power to do that.

00:14:51.200 OK, that's just speech.

00:14:53.460 That's how the law is to me.

00:14:55.420 Pretty clear.

00:14:56.320 It doesn't if what you're just speaking about is jihad or supportive terror.

00:15:01.480 Yeah, you're in trouble if you're not an actual citizen, not if you're an American citizen,

00:15:05.920 not necessarily.

00:15:06.920 But if you're somebody who's less than a citizen asking us to continue the privilege of you

00:15:10.880 staying here, you're in trouble, my friend.

00:15:13.020 And your conduct is where I really want this to land.

00:15:16.920 This guy did more than just speak.

00:15:19.100 He acted like the Robert Duvall character.

00:15:22.900 Nice university here.

00:15:24.640 Shame if anything were to happen to it.

00:15:26.080 All you have to do is divest from Israel. 0.91

00:15:29.200 You can have your campus back.

00:15:31.000 We'll let the Jews pass. 1.00

00:15:32.740 We'll let the cops come in. 0.96

00:15:33.860 We're being perfectly.

00:15:34.760 I'll say it in my soft voice, the one that Khalil uses when he talks on camera, when he

00:15:41.380 presumably was dealing with administrators.

00:15:45.080 Yeah, I like I, I would hate for more maintenance workers to get hurt.

00:15:51.000 I would hate for more cops to have to endanger their young lives. 0.62

00:15:56.080 I really would hate for more property that the Jews have paid for to get destroyed here 1.00

00:16:00.540 on this pretty little campus of yours, administrators. 1.00

00:16:03.800 Fuck you, Mahmoud. 1.00

00:16:05.800 Get out. 1.00

00:16:06.820 All right.

00:16:07.200 So that's it.

00:16:08.220 Glenn Greenwald's coming on on Monday.

00:16:09.880 He and I, I'm sure, will have a robust debate about this because he's definitely on the other 0.84

00:16:13.480 side and I love Glenn.

00:16:14.360 So he's just the man to do it with.

00:16:16.720 So that's exciting.

00:16:18.020 We'll do that.

00:16:18.740 Okay.

00:16:19.180 A couple of other things that I definitely want to get to.

00:16:22.340 Elise Slotkin.

00:16:23.400 She went on the view.

00:16:26.240 She's a, she's a new Senator from Michigan and I never heard of this person.

00:16:30.560 You probably haven't either, but she's trying to make a name for herself because she's the 1.00

00:16:33.860 newly elected Senator from the state of Michigan.

00:16:36.320 And she was on the same ballot that elected Trump because Michigan went for Trump and she

00:16:41.080 also got elected.

00:16:41.780 So she's like, I'm the moderate.

00:16:43.320 I, you know, I'm the future.

00:16:44.400 You guys are going to love me because you same people who put Trump in office and my friends

00:16:49.160 in Michigan.

00:16:49.640 And I, I do have a lot of them.

00:16:51.240 Would you please listen to me, Michiganders? 1.00

00:16:52.860 You elected an idiot. 1.00

00:16:54.400 She's a nasty person. 1.00

00:16:56.080 She is a nasty, nasty, hard partisan. 1.00

00:16:59.320 And I realized you thought, okay, I'll put Trump in there and then I'll put this kind 0.97

00:17:02.580 of moderate Democrat in, but no, she's not. 0.96

00:17:05.340 She's just as hard partisan as the rest of them. 1.00

00:17:07.340 This is no moderate.

00:17:08.040 So she goes on the view this past week and decides to try to explain Trump and Trump

00:17:15.960 voters, you know, cause she's from Michigan. 1.00

00:17:17.560 She was on the same ballot.

00:17:18.700 So she gets Trump, she gets MAGA and here she was, you know, I guess all of our spokesperson

00:17:24.720 explaining all of us to the view.

00:17:28.100 Listen.

00:17:29.680 Right.

00:17:29.880 I think there's a feeling in the country.

00:17:31.680 And I always often say this, you know, we're, we're about to turn 250 years old, right?

00:17:36.320 We're still pretty young for a country.

00:17:38.060 These are our, like, like our angry teenage years, right?

00:17:41.780 We are going through this push and pull where we're happy.

00:17:44.880 We're sad.

00:17:45.400 We want this.

00:17:45.980 We want that.

00:17:46.700 And what do you do when you have a teenager who's threatening themselves and others?

00:17:51.480 You just try to get them through this period alive so that their brain can fully form

00:17:55.840 and you can come back to kind of what, what a country.

00:17:59.060 Are you talking about Trump?

00:17:59.700 No, I'm talking about our country.

00:18:01.480 We're pendulum swinging.

00:18:02.760 We're pendulum swinging.

00:18:03.680 And so for me, I think that this, I don't think there's a single American who feels like

00:18:08.020 this is normal.

00:18:10.100 Okay.

00:18:10.720 Well, she's not talking about Trump, but this is not normal.

00:18:12.660 Everything Trump's doing is abnormal.

00:18:14.380 And it's because we're in our teenage years where our brain is not fully formed.

00:18:18.000 So we're just suffering a temporary form of, of neurosis, of delusion, of insanity.

00:18:25.760 That's, that's our problem. 1.00

00:18:27.100 We're just these mature idiots whose brains have not yet matured. 1.00

00:18:29.820 But trust us, Elise, somehow she's got the magic that we don't have. 1.00

00:18:34.440 Like she's the mature one.

00:18:36.300 She's, she's, she sees more than we do.

00:18:39.060 She knows better.

00:18:40.160 She knows better.

00:18:40.820 Okay. 1.00

00:18:41.200 Like we're the dumb kids who need to be controlled. 0.99

00:18:43.560 We just have to, she's the patient parent. 0.99

00:18:45.160 She's our daddy.

00:18:46.740 Um, I told you she was bad.

00:18:48.800 Do you remember?

00:18:49.340 She was the one who decided to try to strangle Pete Hegseth during his confirmation hearing.

00:18:57.200 And unlike all the other women, she did not appear in those highlight roles of like Maisie

00:19:02.100 Hirono and Kirsten Gillibrand, the ones who were pummeling Pete.

00:19:05.420 And we're like, ah, she did not because she doesn't, she doesn't sound like that.

00:19:09.320 She doesn't sound like that.

00:19:10.220 Ah, but she is just as annoying, probably more dangerous and just as partisan. 1.00

00:19:18.360 That's the thing I really want you to know.

00:19:20.220 Michiganders, you did not elect a moderate and anybody thinking about this person as any

00:19:24.740 sort of a moderate needs to reassess ASAP.

00:19:28.040 So for a couple of weeks or months now, I've been asking my team to put together these sound

00:19:32.520 bites of that cross-examination.

00:19:33.740 She did a Pete and they've, they've done a great job, but they, they never got like all

00:19:38.380 the pieces that I wanted.

00:19:39.320 So I actually went back myself and all my free time this week, which I did have a lot

00:19:42.860 of, it's only a seven minute exchange.

00:19:45.620 And I picked my favorites.

00:19:47.000 I personally put this one together.

00:19:48.400 It's a little disjointed, but you're going to get the feeling of why I dislike this person

00:19:51.940 so much.

00:19:53.020 And now this, you know, I have my sound bite.

00:19:54.700 We don't go over a minute unless it's like extraordinary.

00:19:56.740 This one's three minutes.

00:19:58.140 Trust me.

00:19:58.640 You're going to get why I did it.

00:20:00.400 Watch it.

00:20:00.760 I'm a CIA officer recruited after 9-11.

00:20:04.980 I did three tours armed in Iraq alongside the military and have worked for four different

00:20:12.400 secretaries of defense, both Democrat and Republican proudly.

00:20:16.320 I'm also a Democrat representing a state that Trump won, right?

00:20:19.680 We both won on the same ballot.

00:20:21.060 Do you agree that there are some orders that can be given by the commander in chief that

00:20:26.200 would violate the U.S. Constitution?

00:20:29.140 Senator, thank you for your service.

00:20:30.760 Um, but I reject the premise that President Trump is going to be giving illegal orders.

00:20:35.300 No, I'm not saying he will.

00:20:36.320 But if, do you believe there is such a thing as an illegal order that Joe Biden or any other

00:20:41.080 president Donald Trump could give?

00:20:43.080 Is there anything that a commander in chief could ask you to do with the uniformed military

00:20:47.000 that would be in violation of the U.S. Constitution?

00:20:50.400 Senator, anybody of any party could give an order that is against the Constitution or against

00:20:56.100 the law.

00:20:56.400 So are you saying that you would stand in the breach and push back if you were given an

00:21:00.960 illegal order?

00:21:01.860 I start by saying I reject the premise that President Trump will be giving any illegal

00:21:06.120 orders at all.

00:21:07.720 Mike, this isn't a hypothetical, okay?

00:21:10.440 Your predecessor in a Trump administration, Secretary Esper, was asked and did use uniformed

00:21:16.600 military to clear unarmed protesters.

00:21:18.920 He was given the order to potentially shoot at them.

00:21:22.400 He later apologized publicly for those actions.

00:21:26.060 Was he right or wrong to apologize?

00:21:28.480 Senator, I was there on the ground.

00:21:29.900 I saw the hero myself.

00:21:31.120 I understand and I respect that.

00:21:32.680 Was he right or wrong to apologize?

00:21:35.980 I'm not going to put words in the mouth of Secretary Esper or anybody else.

00:21:39.380 No, he said them himself.

00:21:40.640 You don't have to.

00:21:41.220 What are you scared of?

00:21:42.620 Did he do the right thing by apologizing?

00:21:45.740 I'm not scared of anything, Senator.

00:21:47.820 Then say yes or no.

00:21:48.600 You can say no.

00:21:49.500 Have you been personally involved in discussions of using the U.S. military active duty inside

00:21:55.240 the United States?

00:21:57.160 Senator, I'm fine.

00:21:58.120 I'm glad we finally got to the topic of border security equaling national security because

00:22:02.500 it's been abdicated and ignored for the last four years.

00:22:05.320 That wasn't my question.

00:22:06.000 You're going to be in charge of three million people.

00:22:08.280 The active duty that I know you care about.

00:22:10.120 I believe you care about.

00:22:11.220 So have you been in conversations about using the active duty in any way, whether it's setting

00:22:17.160 up in detention camps, policing dangerous cities?

00:22:20.720 Have you been involved in any of those conversations?

00:22:23.680 Certainly, I have been involved in conversations relating to doing things this administration

00:22:29.040 has not, which is secure the southern border and not allow floods of illegals to enter

00:22:35.180 our country through an invasion that threatens the American people. 0.68

00:22:38.680 Do you support the use of active duty military in supporting detention camps?

00:22:43.660 Senator, everything we will do would be lawful and under the Constitution.

00:22:47.220 But I recognize that this administration has advocated its responsibility.

00:22:51.580 President Trump is going to restore order at the border, prevent our enemies from invading.

00:22:55.940 And yes, he has said mass deportations will be a part of what happened.

00:22:59.580 In the spirit of preserving the institution that I think we both care about legitimately,

00:23:04.140 the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

00:23:06.280 I've heard a couple of different things.

00:23:07.560 One, you said you will not change the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is what governs

00:23:12.500 justice system in the military.

00:23:14.580 Yes or no?

00:23:15.900 You said that earlier.

00:23:16.660 Those are laws, Senator, set by Congress.

00:23:19.140 OK, so you will not go to change it.

00:23:21.300 You will not attempt to change it.

00:23:26.120 It's just so irritating.

00:23:28.700 It makes my blood boil.

00:23:30.200 I get that.

00:23:33.140 OK, you've done your genuflecting.

00:23:35.140 You've done your genuflecting.

00:23:36.920 What are you scared of?

00:23:38.500 Then say yes or no.

00:23:40.500 I believe you care about them.

00:23:42.160 I believe you.

00:23:43.600 I think we both care about them.

00:23:45.580 We both care about the military.

00:23:47.780 Sir, I get it.

00:23:49.240 You're filibustering.

00:23:50.520 Everything's so pejorative, so condescending.

00:23:54.020 You're genuflecting.

00:23:55.880 You're filibustering.

00:23:57.260 What are you scared of, you P-word? 1.00

00:24:01.160 But I totally have the same respect for the military as you do.

00:24:04.840 I'm basically the same as you are.

00:24:07.120 I went as a CIA analyst to Iraq to help with intelligence, and that's basically the same 0.93

00:24:12.840 as strapping a gun on my back and going and actually having to shoot bad guys.

00:24:17.120 So I'm one of you. 0.95

00:24:18.000 I get it.

00:24:19.280 I, Elise Locken, will acknowledge that you might actually care about the military.

00:24:23.520 I have decided you might be sincere in that.

00:24:26.600 F-U, Senator.

00:24:30.680 She's truly like, she's, I guess, a wolf in sheep's clothing.

00:24:38.380 I don't know, a partisan and nonpartisan's clothing.

00:24:40.800 I'm not sure exactly how I want to say it other than don't trust her.

00:24:44.580 Don't buy her little moderation act. 0.69

00:24:46.940 Understand what you've elected.

00:24:53.020 Because I think Michiganders genuinely believe that this would be somebody who possibly could 1.00

00:24:56.920 work with Trump, who wouldn't have TDS, who could go to Washington and represent the people

00:25:02.700 who don't hate him, who actually voted for him for president, but aren't necessarily Republicans

00:25:08.300 or diehard MAGA, right?

00:25:09.760 You made a mistake there, my friends.

00:25:13.020 You had a great Republican candidate.

00:25:15.280 You rejected him.

00:25:16.220 That's fine.

00:25:16.960 You could rectify it the next time around.

00:25:18.560 And I really, really, really hope you do.

00:25:21.420 You have the possibility of doing that now. 0.98

00:25:23.880 And I really, really, really hope you make a better choice because this woman is nasty. 1.00

00:25:30.980 She's a nasty person. 1.00

00:25:32.480 The way she spoke to him about his military service, like I will deign to tell you that 0.93

00:25:38.700 your love for the military is real.

00:25:40.100 I believe you. 0.98

00:25:41.260 Who gives a shit whether you believe Pete Hegseth cares about the troops? 1.00

00:25:46.040 Who gives a shit? 1.00

00:25:47.160 How dare you say that to a man who's been deployed three times to Gitmo, to Iraq, to 1.00

00:25:53.900 Afghanistan, and has laid his life on the line for his country?

00:25:57.220 How dare you speak that way and then get out there and talk to the rest of us like we're

00:26:01.680 these know-nothing little teenagers.

00:26:04.280 And that's the only reason why we voted for Trump, because our brains aren't fully developed.

00:26:08.980 Long story short, Elise Slotkin, thumbs down.

00:26:13.360 OK, got to keep going.

00:26:14.920 While we're on members of Congress, Sarah, formerly Tim McBride, has been elected as

00:26:23.980 a congressman out of Delaware.

00:26:25.820 And this is the person who led to the whole controversy over whether we were going to be

00:26:30.740 letting men posing as women use the bathrooms belonging to women on Capitol Hill. 0.76

00:26:35.620 Remember Nancy Mace petitioned the House Speaker, Mike Johnson, to say, please don't allow that.

00:26:41.820 Now, in that case, it's kind of an academic exercise because all these congressmen have

00:26:45.900 their own bathrooms.

00:26:46.980 But it was a chance to raise a larger issue.

00:26:49.820 And do you really want Sarah, formerly known as Tim McBride, walking down, you know, in

00:26:56.140 Statuary Hall and saying, oh, I got to go.

00:26:58.020 I'm going to use this public bathroom that belongs to a woman. 1.00

00:27:00.000 And there's your little girl who's there on a tour with her eighth grade class and bumping

00:27:04.320 into this man posing as a woman in a skirt going to the bathroom.

00:27:07.960 And I don't think so.

00:27:08.760 I don't want that.

00:27:09.900 Get out.

00:27:10.980 Go to your own space.

00:27:12.500 And so Speaker Mike Johnson actually did change the policy to say you have to use the

00:27:16.220 bathroom that aligns with your sex at birth.

00:27:19.120 Well, Sarah, formerly known as Tim.

00:27:23.860 God, there's a reason I'm struggling with the names and I'm going to get to that.

00:27:28.060 It's throwing a fit right now through the surrogates because McBride was at a House hearing

00:27:33.960 and Representative Keith, Keith Self, who's a Republican from Texas, referred to Representative

00:27:39.860 McBride as Mr., which is what he is.

00:27:46.240 McBride is a man.

00:27:47.760 He is a man in a dress. 0.97

00:27:49.360 He is a man in a skirt. 0.99

00:27:50.960 Doesn't make him a woman.

00:27:52.520 Never will.

00:27:53.160 And Representative Self referred to McBride as Mr., leading another congressman to have

00:28:03.220 a meltdown.

00:28:05.000 And the hearing ended over him using the word Mr.

00:28:10.480 Watch.

00:28:12.220 I now recognize the representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.

00:28:17.760 Thank you, Madam Chair.

00:28:19.620 Ranking Member Keating, also wonderful.

00:28:21.540 Mr. Chairman, could you repeat your introduction again, please?

00:28:25.440 Yes, it's a it's a we have set the standard on the floor of the House and I'm simply.

00:28:32.700 What is that standard, Mr. Chairman?

00:28:35.720 Would you repeat what you just said when you introduced a duly elected representative from

00:28:40.740 the United States of America, please?

00:28:42.940 I will.

00:28:44.400 The representative from Delaware, Mr. McBride.

00:28:47.600 Mr. Chairman, you are out of order.

00:28:50.180 Mr. Chairman, have you no decency?

00:28:54.540 I mean, I've come to know you a little bit, but this is not decent.

00:28:57.920 We will continue this.

00:28:59.140 You will not continue it with me unless you introduce a duly elected representative the

00:29:03.880 right way.

00:29:06.560 This hearing is adjourned.

00:29:07.940 Good for you, Congressman Keith Self.

00:29:17.180 And shame on you, Bill Keating, Democrat from Massachusetts, who used the opportunity of

00:29:23.760 him speaking truth and reality to grandstand.

00:29:28.920 That's what happened.

00:29:30.200 Sarah McBride is a man.

00:29:32.560 Sarah McBride is a man.

00:29:34.960 Sarah McBride is a man.

00:29:36.340 That's why he said, Mr.

00:29:39.180 I am sick of the pronoun nonsense. 0.99

00:29:41.820 And this is in that category.

00:29:43.520 This is an honorific, what you get called by.

00:29:48.300 But it's the same disconnect.

00:29:52.500 It's when you try to rub your belly and pat your head at the same time.

00:29:57.480 And it's hard.

00:29:58.720 Like the left and the right, they don't really want to do the same thing.

00:30:02.140 They don't.

00:30:03.300 There's an incongruity happening inside your brain.

00:30:06.340 And that's what was happening to Representative Self, who knew what he was looking at was a

00:30:11.520 mister.

00:30:12.860 Sorry, Sarah.

00:30:13.960 You're not fooling anyone.

00:30:15.960 Okay.

00:30:16.300 You might look with the long hair to some people like a woman. 0.85

00:30:19.720 As soon as we hear you speak, we know.

00:30:23.180 All right.

00:30:23.760 We know.

00:30:24.860 It's obvious to everyone.

00:30:28.020 And this is what Sarah decided to say about the issue after the fact.

00:30:34.160 We will not take a lecture on decorum from a party that incited an insurrection.

00:30:41.240 Does that sound like a woman to you? 0.97

00:30:43.380 I appear to live rent free in the minds of some of my Republican colleagues.

00:30:48.800 I wish that they would spend even a fraction of the time that they spend thinking about me,

00:30:55.380 thinking about how to lower the costs for American families.

00:30:58.580 I wish they would spend a fraction of the time that they spend thinking about me,

00:31:04.000 figuring out how to make government actually work better, rather than making it work worse

00:31:08.940 in order to prove that government can't work.

00:31:12.740 They are obsessed with culture war issues.

00:31:16.120 The Republican Party is obsessed with culture war issues.

00:31:20.180 It is weird and it is bizarre. 1.00

00:31:23.300 So you have a penis and are in a dress. 1.00

00:31:26.320 So you get to stop with the lectures on the culture wars. 1.00

00:31:29.540 OK, you're a man with either a wig or with women's hair. 0.99

00:31:35.000 I guess maybe fake breasts. 1.00

00:31:36.720 I don't know what you did in there. 0.92

00:31:37.820 Don't really want to know either. 1.00

00:31:39.000 But you're wearing a fucking dress and you've got a dick. 1.00

00:31:41.580 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:31:42.240 I just like get it together, sir.

00:31:45.260 You might not be in a position to lecture Republicans on the culture wars.

00:31:49.640 All right.

00:31:50.600 You're the one trying to pervert the culture right now.

00:31:53.740 The vast majority of male to female trans people are auto-gynophiles.

00:32:00.580 They get off. 0.54

00:32:01.800 It's a perversion on dressing like a woman. 1.00

00:32:04.680 It's a fetish. 0.99

00:32:06.120 They get an erection by putting on women's clothing and making the rest of us participate in the delusion. 0.95

00:32:13.660 So Representative Faith did the right thing. 0.74

00:32:16.860 He wouldn't participate in anyone else's delusion.

00:32:21.620 And he doesn't have to.

00:32:23.100 And neither do you.

00:32:24.900 I don't want to participate in anybody's fetish.

00:32:27.060 There are guys who get off and dressing in a diaper and having women pretend that they're their little baby. 0.69

00:32:31.160 It's a no.

00:32:32.080 I'm not participating in that from afar or any place else.

00:32:34.940 I don't have to see this person when he's out of the bedroom and say,

00:32:37.760 Oh, how's my little baby?

00:32:39.320 No, I wouldn't.

00:32:40.240 And I don't.

00:32:41.200 And I don't have to look at Sarah, formerly Tim McBride, and say,

00:32:45.200 Mister, and say, Miss. 0.74

00:32:48.120 See, I can't do it.

00:32:49.380 The reason I'm stuttering on it is because we know what the truth is.

00:32:53.700 We know the truth is, Mister.

00:32:55.320 We know that.

00:32:56.520 And that's why when you try to say, Miss, or Congresswoman, you can't.

00:33:01.140 You stutter just a bit.

00:33:02.240 You could get it out.

00:33:02.900 But there's, you've been hearing it.

00:33:04.780 There's like a second of, like, pause because it's the head and the belly thing.

00:33:10.300 Like, I know what's real.

00:33:12.960 I have mentioned this piece to you guys many times, okay?

00:33:16.560 It is called Pronouns Are Rehypnol.

00:33:20.200 Pronouns Are Rehypnol.

00:33:21.800 And it is by somebody named Barra Kerr.

00:33:26.840 This thing was like contraband on the internet for quite some time after it was initially posted.

00:33:33.220 Nobody would let it be posted.

00:33:34.880 They kept pulling it down.

00:33:36.900 And then finally, it did get posted.

00:33:39.540 And now it's on the internet, and you can just Google it and read it yourself.

00:33:42.400 Okay, so this is how Barra Kerr puts it.

00:33:44.900 This is a couple years ago, so it's a brave piece.

00:33:47.860 There's a lot of chat around pronouns right now, specifically preferred pronouns,

00:33:52.460 by which is usually meant the pronouns a person would prefer other people to use

00:33:55.660 when they are the subject being discussed by those people.

00:33:58.040 This is how I want you to talk about me.

00:34:01.120 Um, they, they bill it as a simple politeness, a courtesy.

00:34:06.880 They go on to say, I've also heard many people declaring that anyone who won't comply,

00:34:10.940 usually directed as a woman, but here it was a man,

00:34:13.160 is obnoxious, mean, hostile, unpleasant.

00:34:18.160 Misgendering is hate speech, they say.

00:34:20.620 That is what Representative Faith was accused of.

00:34:23.700 Misgendering Sarah, formerly Tim McBride.

00:34:27.580 Misgendering.

00:34:28.180 What he did was actually gender Tim, now Sarah, correctly.

00:34:33.640 I'm not trying to be disrespectful of McBride by, quote, deadnaming him.

00:34:39.000 My general policy is if you change your name for whatever reason, I'll go along with your new name.

00:34:43.740 And I said, fine, lots of people do that.

00:34:46.060 So I will call you Sarah if I must, but I will not call you she or her or miss or missus or congresswoman.

00:34:54.040 Because those are false.

00:34:56.460 They're fake.

00:34:57.640 That's fake news.

00:34:58.860 It's not reality.

00:35:00.560 If, if your name is now suddenly Sarah because you changed it legally, then that, that's your new reality and I'm fine to go along with it.

00:35:07.640 The reason I'm now saying Sarah, formerly Tim, is because I'm trying to make a point to you about why accurate pronouns are so important

00:35:15.460 and why it's so hard to play the game, the delusion game they want us to.

00:35:22.440 All right.

00:35:22.680 I'm coming to something.

00:35:24.560 So, okay.

00:35:26.200 Barra writes the following.

00:35:29.020 Barra Kerr.

00:35:29.920 One of the biggest obstacles to halting the stampede over women's rights, uh, is pronoun and preferred name courtesy. 1.00

00:35:36.660 People severely underestimate the psychological impact to themselves and to the, and to others of compliance.

00:35:44.960 And now they go on to talk about, forgive me, I don't know whether, uh, Barra Kerr is a man or a woman.

00:35:51.240 So I, I don't know what the pronouns are here, but Kerr goes on to talk about how there's this test.

00:35:57.260 You see all these colors I'm holding up there, they're colors like blue, gray, red, blue, orange, red, whatever.

00:36:03.020 But these colors in this test are not in their proper, like color, like blue in this thing, um, is written as blue, but so is yellow.

00:36:14.380 Yellow is also written in blue.

00:36:15.800 Gray is written in pink.

00:36:17.280 Uh, blue appears elsewhere in yellow.

00:36:19.540 Purple appears in yellow.

00:36:20.940 Red appears in green.

00:36:21.880 And how there is this experiment that you can take that shows how much harder it is for you to say the color of the words written in front of you when they're in the wrong color.

00:36:36.080 When blue is a color other than blue.

00:36:37.940 When red is a color other than red.

00:36:40.300 Because your brain has an understanding.

00:36:42.160 You have this conscious awareness that, and, and, and a, and a subconscious awareness that you're fighting a conflict, that something's wrong about what you're being asked to say.

00:36:53.700 And using preferred pronouns, Barra Kerr goes on, does the same.

00:36:58.520 It alters your attention, your speed of processing, your automaticity.

00:37:03.100 You may find it makes you anxious.

00:37:04.900 You pay less heed to what you say, what you, what you want to say, and more to what is expected of you.

00:37:12.120 It slows you down.

00:37:13.600 It confuses you.

00:37:14.660 It makes you less reactive.

00:37:16.080 That's not a good thing.

00:37:17.020 Is that how we want our members of Congress?

00:37:19.420 Do we want hearings in the halls of Congress with a bunch of congressmen who are slowed down, are confused, and who are less reactive to what they're hearing?

00:37:33.080 We do not, ladies and gentlemen.

00:37:37.100 And it's not cruel to try to avoid that unnecessary distraction and hampering of our lawmakers.

00:37:46.340 That's what Mr. Faith was standing up for.

00:37:52.000 Mr. Self, I keep calling him Mr. Faith, Mr. Self.

00:37:55.240 That's what he was standing up for.

00:37:56.580 He was standing up for reality and for the ability to function in his job in as clean and easy and effective a manner as possible.

00:38:09.760 Notwithstanding the obvious delusion of the man wearing a skirt up on the dais with him.

00:38:17.280 The thing about pronouns are rohypno in this piece that really stuck out at me is it ties back to Gavin DeBecker's The Gift of Fear.

00:38:28.560 Not explicitly, but in idea.

00:38:30.840 And almost every woman I know has read that book.

00:38:32.660 And if you haven't, you should.

00:38:33.580 And if you're a dad or a brother, you need to buy it for all the women in your life. 1.00

00:38:40.080 Okay, or a grandfather or a husband.

00:38:43.240 Because Gavin DeBecker's a national security expert.

00:38:45.660 I mean, a security expert.

00:38:46.960 He has been fighting to prevent people who have been stalking victims from getting restocked to tighten laws around this.

00:38:53.460 He's been on the security teams of our biggest and most well-known celebrities and business executives, politicians, you name it.

00:39:02.620 He's a true expert in security.

00:39:04.400 And Gavin DeBecker wrote The Gift of Fear many years ago, and it's about how women have an innate sixth sense.

00:39:11.560 And it's the thing that tells you late at night when you're getting out of the parking garage and getting into the elevator, if you see a sketchy male character in there, don't go in.

00:39:22.580 Don't go in.

00:39:24.280 Or when you see somebody come up to you as you have your groceries and you're trying to open up your front door of your house who says, oh, let me help you.

00:39:31.500 Let me help you.

00:39:32.060 And you've got that tingling sense in the back of your neck, go up.

00:39:36.520 That's your gift of fear.

00:39:38.200 And you say, no, thank you.

00:39:39.980 But you have this other side of you that's groomed by society.

00:39:42.620 Be nice.

00:39:43.700 Be courteous.

00:39:45.140 Don't be unkind. 1.00

00:39:46.200 Don't be a bitch. 1.00

00:39:47.340 Be nice. 1.00

00:39:47.880 He's trying to help you.

00:39:48.900 He's doing you a solid.

00:39:50.220 And they're in conflict.

00:39:53.040 That gift of fear and the way women are raised, girls are raised. 1.00

00:39:56.700 Be nice.

00:39:57.460 Be kind.

00:39:58.480 Don't be mean.

00:39:59.700 Don't hurt people's feelings.

00:40:01.360 The guy did you a solid.

00:40:02.300 He offered to carry your groceries.

00:40:03.640 Let him carry them.

00:40:04.460 This is doing the kindness and being neighborly.

00:40:06.740 Or get in the elevator.

00:40:08.160 You're going to hurt his feelings.

00:40:09.080 What are you trying to say?

00:40:09.800 Like you're better than he is.

00:40:10.760 You think he smells.

00:40:12.060 You know, like what do you mean? 0.98

00:40:15.020 You're just going to feel rejected in there like you think he's some sort of a pervert. 1.00

00:40:18.220 Fucking get in the box. 1.00

00:40:19.280 Get in the locked box with the person who's making all of your spidey senses go off. 1.00

00:40:23.360 That is crazy.

00:40:25.680 So that's what Gavin DeBecker writes about in The Gift of Fear.

00:40:28.340 And he's spot on.

00:40:30.140 We all have it.

00:40:31.080 And we must listen to it.

00:40:33.040 And we must not let it be dulled by fake or preferred pronouns, which ask us to reject

00:40:43.380 our innate senses, our innate understanding of what is real and what isn't in the name

00:40:50.800 of kindness, politeness, courtesy, common courtesy, or decency.

00:40:57.760 As you heard there, decency.

00:41:00.240 Have you no decency is what was said in that exchange, that it was indecent for him to call

00:41:07.420 Sarah, formerly Tim, mister.

00:41:10.420 It was absolutely decent.

00:41:13.040 It was truthful.

00:41:14.220 It was honest.

00:41:15.460 And here is what they say about the pronouns are like rohypnol.

00:41:19.480 They dull your defenses.

00:41:21.020 They challenge your inhibitions.

00:41:22.740 They're meant to.

00:41:23.660 You've had a lifetime's experience learning to be alert to him and relax to her.

00:41:31.680 That is true.

00:41:32.680 It's not to say all men are evil or dangerous, but guys, you know what we're talking about.

00:41:36.460 You know what, you know, if you've sent a young girl off to college, you know exactly

00:41:40.280 who you've warned her about or off to some party in her later high school years.

00:41:44.300 You're not really worried about her fellow girlfriends sexually assaulting her.

00:41:49.300 They can do different kinds of damage, but not that.

00:41:51.920 It's men.

00:41:52.580 It's men who in the overwhelming number of cases involving sexual assault or harm are

00:41:57.260 the perpetrators against women.

00:41:59.680 For good reason.

00:42:01.020 You've had this lifetime's experience.

00:42:03.060 This instinctive response keeps you safe.

00:42:05.880 It's not even a conscious thing.

00:42:07.660 It's like your hair standing on end.

00:42:09.240 Your subconscious brain is helping you not get eaten by the saber tooth tiger that your

00:42:14.100 eyes have not yet noticed.

00:42:17.880 Incongruent pronouns also make your brain work much harder.

00:42:21.460 Not just when you're using them, but when you are receiving them as information, you are

00:42:26.140 working constantly to keep that story straight in your head, male or female, which one again?

00:42:31.760 Concentrate harder.

00:42:33.220 Ignore your instincts.

00:42:34.400 Ignore your reaction.

00:42:36.640 Ignore.

00:42:37.040 And you are still affected emotionally and instinctively by incongruent pronouns, nouns, and names, despite your efforts to be immune.

00:42:45.820 You're not immune to this effect.

00:42:47.820 You can know perfectly the actual sex of a male person, and yet you will still react differently if someone else calls them she instead of he.

00:42:57.300 Pronouns are dangerous.

00:43:01.400 That's the truth.

00:43:02.260 And the piece concludes by saying, I want to be alert.

00:43:06.940 I want others to be alert.

00:43:07.940 I want people to see the real picture, and I want those instinctive reactions that we feel when something is wrong to be unblunted, undulled by this cheap but effective psychological trick.

00:43:19.440 I feel like I owe this to myself, and I absolutely owe it to other women, and that is why I will not use preferred pronouns.

00:43:28.040 Using rohypnol on others is not a courtesy.

00:43:34.640 That's so well done, and it's exactly right.

00:43:37.680 And that is why it was totally appropriate and right and correct to refer to McBride as Mr.

00:43:45.940 So thank you for doing that.

00:43:47.860 Thank you, Keith Self.

00:43:49.440 I appreciate it.

00:43:50.660 And, Bill Keating, you take a lesson, sir, because you not only undermine the effectiveness of your hearing, but you, in doing what you did, endangered every girl and woman on Capitol Hill, in your home state of Massachusetts, and in this country.

00:44:05.760 We don't need to deny reality.

00:44:07.980 We don't need to participate in McBride's delusion.

00:44:11.260 It is not impolite or unkind or rude to call a man Mr.

00:44:16.700 And that is a man.

00:44:18.900 And the overwhelming odds are that that man is indulging in a sexual fetish up at that microphone or on that dais, and you do not want to participate in that. 0.75

00:44:30.740 Okay.

00:44:35.060 That's McBride.

00:44:35.860 A couple of other things I need to get to before we move off into the weekend.

00:44:45.740 And that, okay, I might save this one for Glenn Greenwald.

00:44:48.260 I'm on the fence.

00:44:52.860 There's so much goodness here, you guys.

00:44:54.740 I'm, like, my team has pulled so many good things together that I've been texting them about all week.

00:44:58.360 I'm on the fence about whether I should go for them.

00:45:00.440 All right.

00:45:00.660 I'll do this next one because I wouldn't do it.

00:45:02.240 I won't do this with Glenn.

00:45:03.260 Paris Fashion Week was last week.

00:45:07.940 And I remember watching some bits from Paris Fashion Week when, you know, I was younger, especially, and a younger woman and cared about such things and, like, saw the fashions.

00:45:15.820 I've never been particularly, like, a fashion queen, but I pay some attention.

00:45:19.280 And this is how it used to look.

00:45:21.140 I mean, like, the most beautiful women on earth strutting down the runway, totally freaking iconic. 1.00

00:45:27.260 Here's one from the 1990s.

00:45:30.260 It's the Versace show.

00:45:34.400 Okay.

00:45:35.560 Look at these women. 1.00

00:45:37.980 Carla Bruni, Claudia Schaefer, Naomi Campbell, Cindy Crawford, Helena Christensen.

00:45:45.380 They're goddesses. 0.99

00:45:47.480 They're absolute goddesses. 0.99

00:45:49.040 They look about 10 feet tall in their gold Versace dresses with the shimmer.

00:45:54.380 I mean, just female icons. 1.00

00:45:59.040 Total womanhood. 0.83

00:46:00.820 And it was lovely to watch.

00:46:03.520 Absolutely lovely.

00:46:04.920 And here's another one.

00:46:06.720 This is a 2016 Balmain show.

00:46:12.900 Okay.

00:46:14.000 Stunning, stunning seven-foot-tall models with, you know, some cutouts on the dress but still appropriate.

00:46:20.540 Perfectly shapely, not anorexic for what it's worth, you know, just, like, great-looking.

00:46:27.120 Gorgeous.

00:46:27.720 Perfectly made up.

00:46:29.220 Legs to the moon.

00:46:31.360 Great jewelry.

00:46:33.120 Sparkly.

00:46:33.960 Fierce.

00:46:35.240 Feminine.

00:46:36.360 Fabulous.

00:46:37.040 Love it.

00:46:37.680 There's some inspo there.

00:46:38.820 There's some inspo.

00:46:39.620 Whenever I saw things like that, I would think to myself, I'm like, I gotta try harder.

00:46:42.980 I gotta try harder.

00:46:43.960 Like, in a good way.

00:46:45.680 You know, like, maybe I will lose that last two pounds.

00:46:47.660 I won't have that dessert, or maybe I will, like, spend five more minutes at the makeup

00:46:51.420 table just to try something new with the eyeliner.

00:46:53.520 Like, I think you feel good when you look good.

00:46:58.560 God, there was some football player, Doug, told me about who used to say, when you look

00:47:04.440 good, or when you feel good, or when you look good, you feel good.

00:47:07.080 When you feel good, you play good.

00:47:08.780 When you play good, they pay good.

00:47:11.380 Was it Deion Sanders?

00:47:13.560 Anyway, I loved it.

00:47:15.140 Yeah, it was Deion Sanders.

00:47:16.120 Look at that.

00:47:16.500 I remembered a sports reference.

00:47:18.380 Anyway, there's some truth to it.

00:47:20.660 Well, we've gone a different way over in Paris, where we had a very different kind of fashion

00:47:27.380 week, including this man in a red dress that, look, he's bald.

00:47:36.320 He looks to me exactly like Uncle Fester.

00:47:39.960 Take a look at this thing.

00:47:41.300 Oh, my God.

00:47:47.080 He's got to be six and a half feet tall.

00:47:51.880 He's got to be 350 pounds.

00:47:54.300 He's wearing, I think, a white skull cap and white makeup on his face.

00:47:58.880 Look at this.

00:47:59.700 It's the same man.

00:48:01.040 It's Uncle Fester.

00:48:02.260 He's put on even more weight.

00:48:04.220 He's gained a lot and he's gained some inches. 0.95

00:48:07.680 They're proud of the disgusting, huge, fat belly, which is also being shown in the slit 0.93

00:48:12.400 dress. 0.96

00:48:13.700 And absolutely no attempt, you know, to sort of work it like, you know, like a Laverne

00:48:18.880 Cox might.

00:48:19.960 You know what I mean?

00:48:20.620 Like work it as you walk the runway.

00:48:22.520 No, he's walking like an Uncle Fester as well. 1.00

00:48:25.240 And look at these idiots watching him in the in the gallery. 1.00

00:48:31.660 Idiots. 1.00

00:48:32.900 Somebody should have said, come on. 1.00

00:48:35.120 Why didn't somebody say boo?

00:48:37.880 Come on.

00:48:39.140 Sit down.

00:48:40.040 Because they need to socialize in these circles.

00:48:43.020 They can't be kicked out of the after party.

00:48:44.680 They have to be at the right place with the right drink, with the right people so they can

00:48:48.460 invite you get invited to the next one.

00:48:50.920 Heavens forbid.

00:48:52.520 What if you what if you were to be banned from the next event to Paris Fashion Week?

00:48:57.120 Can't have it.

00:48:58.820 Now, there's more about this particular this particular fashion event.

00:49:03.960 And I've got to find it because it's unbelievable.

00:49:05.920 Here it is.

00:49:06.420 OK.

00:49:07.500 By the way, this was this is during International Women's Week, too.

00:49:12.060 So take that for what it is.

00:49:15.460 Uncle Fester.

00:49:16.400 The show was by Matiere Fecales. 1.00

00:49:22.840 OK, reading that from my team, which translates to fecal matter, piece of shit, which is absolutely 1.00

00:49:31.940 true. 1.00

00:49:32.680 So are they are they just trolling us? 1.00

00:49:34.600 Because this is a piece of shit attempted fashion. 0.99

00:49:37.140 It's a Canadian design duo named Hannah Rose Dalton and Stephen Raj Bhaskaran. 1.00

00:49:45.760 And those are the ones who chose a bald, overweight man with white makeup to walk the runway in the

00:49:52.340 fashion that we just discussed.

00:49:53.320 The model was, quote, gender nonconforming.

00:49:56.520 He's a DJ and a performance artist who goes by Louis G.

00:50:00.700 Burton.

00:50:01.640 Louis's Instagram shows that he is a man who dresses as a woman.

00:50:05.780 But all of this has me wondering whether this is a real fashion pair.

00:50:10.300 Why would they call their show Fecal Matter in French?

00:50:15.360 Materies Fecales. 1.00

00:50:16.580 I took Spanish, which is literally piece of shit. 1.00

00:50:20.420 Like, I'd like to know more. 1.00

00:50:22.520 If that was your goal, you nailed it. 1.00

00:50:24.900 That was definitely piece of shit fashion. 0.99

00:50:26.920 But I think instead it's probably just an effort to be as risque and push the envelope as possible 1.00

00:50:34.860 so that you can be part of the cool kids.

00:50:37.660 That's what that's what gets you props.

00:50:39.000 There was another moment in Paris Fashion Week that was right up the same alley.

00:50:44.420 This one was from Dutch designer Duran LaTink's Duranimal collection, where a male model who

00:50:53.040 had double D, at least, prosthetic breasts, walked the runway. 1.00

00:50:59.880 These things are jiggling like nobody's business.

00:51:03.400 Look at this.

00:51:04.960 This is so freaky.

00:51:07.040 This is a freak.

00:51:10.060 That's what I see as a freak.

00:51:11.580 Somebody you would have used to have to pay money to see this in a circle.

00:51:14.300 For the listening audience, it's a very tall man with pants.

00:51:17.560 And it appears to be no shirt, though I'm told it's one of those like Bianca Sensori tops

00:51:22.160 that actually is just like mesh.

00:51:23.260 You can see right through it.

00:51:23.860 There was something.

00:51:24.660 You couldn't have told.

00:51:25.480 It was a matched skin tone top, creating the illusion he was topless.

00:51:32.500 LaTink, the designer of what again?

00:51:34.840 Was the designer of what garment?

00:51:36.760 Defended the look to women's wear daily.

00:51:38.980 It's about cosplay.

00:51:40.260 It's playing with bad taste.

00:51:41.880 It's about form.

00:51:42.920 Every season, we're trying to sort of surprise ourselves with how we can change an original

00:51:46.680 piece into something that we find interesting. 0.97

00:51:48.620 And we're going to do whatever the fuck we want because we're free. 0.93

00:51:53.420 Great. 0.99

00:51:54.180 You do that, Mr. LaTink.

00:51:56.280 And we will not buy any of your clothing, okay?

00:52:00.020 Such as it is.

00:52:02.260 There are always going to be mentally deranged people in our society, like the two people 0.99

00:52:07.760 who were featured in Paris fashion show.

00:52:10.220 And then there will be equally cynical advantage takers, like the designers behind this whole

00:52:16.520 thing.

00:52:16.820 The only solution for the rest of us is to say no, call out the depravity and register

00:52:23.500 how gross we find it.

00:52:25.160 That's all we can do, or we're going to lose everything to these people.

00:52:29.680 Already, our society has devolved to the point where women are running around half naked 1.00

00:52:33.220 at public events.

00:52:34.840 You know, we talked about what we saw at the Oscars.

00:52:37.940 Look what happens at the Grammys.

00:52:39.760 You know, Bianca Sensori, I just mentioned her.

00:52:42.380 People are already literally running around naked to get attention.

00:52:45.520 And now it's perfectly on brand for Fashion Week, which is supposed to have like a preview

00:52:50.840 of what's coming to be naked too, but also trans and a man pretending to be a woman, a man,

00:52:57.080 I guess, mocking women's breasts, which are actually a mechanism to keep infants alive 1.00

00:53:02.820 and not your play thing, not your fucking accessory, you Danish freak. 1.00

00:53:08.560 Um, it's just so deeply offensive and all the rest of us can do is continue objecting. 1.00

00:53:13.560 Just be loud about it.

00:53:14.680 Object, you know, say you're disgusted.

00:53:17.940 Don't tune in when it's somebody whose product we can punish.

00:53:21.680 Uh, but to just let it go with like a chuckle, that's not good enough.

00:53:27.000 This is, this is truly sick stuff and, uh, it cannot define us and it cannot continue.

00:53:32.720 It really can't.

00:53:33.460 Whether it's some guy dressed as a woman in the U S Congress demanding to be called

00:53:37.040 Ms. 0.81

00:53:37.640 No, some guy putting on prosthetic breasts again, which are an organ that help children

00:53:43.400 sustain life, not your toy, um, or uncle fester putting on a red dress and trying to walk through

00:53:51.240 a fashion week as I don't, I don't even know what he was trying to do.

00:53:54.540 I'm not sure, but I liked him a lot better when he was on the Adams fan family.

00:53:58.120 It was a great show.

00:53:58.900 It was, it was, was it?

00:54:01.120 Yeah.

00:54:01.420 Was it the Adams family or was it the monsters? 0.79

00:54:04.140 Okay.

00:54:04.760 Okay.

00:54:05.200 I get my, my monster shows from the 1970s confused.

00:54:08.140 All right.

00:54:08.500 So that's it for now.

00:54:09.640 Those are the things I had to go off on.

00:54:11.300 And I have a lot more to discuss, including the Michelle Obama podcast and an amazing

00:54:15.640 fact check we're going to be doing on CNN that I think you're really going to enjoy,

00:54:19.340 but we'll save that for when Glenn joins us on Monday.

00:54:22.640 See you then.

00:54:25.140 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - March 15, 2025

Megyn Kelly Goes After Paris Fashion Week, Mahmoud Khalil, Sarah McBride, Sen. Elissa Slotkin, and More ｜ Ep. 1027

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