The Megyn Kelly Show - Megyn Kelly Hosts The Charlie Kirk Show - On Charlie's Legacy, Kimmel Sidelined, and What Comes Next ｜ Ep. 1152

00:00:00.000 every day is a battle for your mind raging information coming from every angle with the

00:00:15.440 will to deceive fear not you found the place for truth the voice of a generation that still has

00:00:21.980 the will to believe in the greatest country in the history of the world this is the charlie

00:00:27.680 kirk show buckle up here we go hey everyone i'm megan kelly and i am honored to be sitting in

00:00:37.580 charlie kirk's studio hosting the charlie kirk show we're simulcasting it out right now for

00:00:42.560 our listeners on the megan kelly show and we're all so honored to be a part of this

00:00:46.400 um traveled out to arizona last night and just stepping foot in the state i mean you can't go

00:00:53.260 more than a hundred feet without seeing something to honor charlie especially here at the headquarters

00:00:59.440 of turning point where you pull up and it is like something the only thing that i can compare to it

00:01:06.020 is after princess diana died where you see the teddy bears and the balloons and the signage

00:01:11.620 lining just the entire campus outside of this building there's an incredible outpouring around

00:01:18.640 the world for him and i'm so honored to be sitting here in the studio i'm here uh right now with

00:01:24.840 andrew colvitt he's charlie's executive producer andrew thank you so much for inviting me thank you for

00:01:31.120 making the journey and the trip i know it's no small task and you honor charlie charlie would be so

00:01:37.640 honored and you were one of his dearest friends in this whole crazy media and conservative space

00:01:44.500 and he would absolutely i i started making calls probably within 36 hours and i knew exactly who

00:01:55.220 to call and you were absolutely one of those people and so thank you for making this work thank you i

00:02:01.720 just i feel like if the one thing i can say about me and charlie is you know i think you once described

00:02:07.960 it as the weird chemistry he and i had together on the air you know because i absolutely loved talking

00:02:15.360 to him i can't think of somebody i wanted to talk to more ever when i saw it was a charlie kirk day on

00:02:20.860 the show i knew it was going to be a great program i knew he was going to bring something different than

00:02:25.600 what we would hear from everybody else and one of the things that i knew i'd get from charlie was humor

00:02:31.200 yes always made me laugh that's an underappreciated quality of charlie and i'm i don't want to give

00:02:37.620 away where we're going with this show if you want to that's fine you're driving today but the people

00:02:43.300 closest to him the people in this building they all have many stories about how charlie just made them

00:02:50.260 you know keel over laughing just because he was really funny he had a very dry sense of humor

00:02:55.980 and it was very charlie there was i don't know how you could really describe it they're gonna have

00:03:00.780 to tell you themselves but yeah and that came through in interviews with you it didn't come

00:03:05.240 through with everybody but with you he had you guys had this this rapport and i remember always

00:03:11.180 texting back and forth with your team because you're on the air with him and he's on the air

00:03:15.220 with you and we'd be like oh this is great oh my gosh this is amazing and i remember you going on

00:03:20.320 sean ryan's show and he was like who should i interview and a lot of people sent me this clip i

00:03:24.760 don't know if i ever told you that but i saw it and you were like you should have charlie kirk on

00:03:28.780 it never happened and that's fine i met sean a couple times and we were always kind of talking

00:03:33.720 about maybe whatever but the fact that you were i just knew i because i felt like for the first

00:03:40.280 couple years that charlie and i were talking it wasn't by no means was it that charlie was

00:03:44.540 undiscovered he'd been discovered and he had already built this massive organization but in more

00:03:50.200 traditional republican circles he wasn't as well known and in some circles not as well understood

00:03:55.840 you know they the establishment yeah circle they thought he was fringy and i would tell all my

00:04:02.060 friends in that lane no no no no no no you got to listen to him he's hugely important to the future

00:04:07.140 of the republican party and the country and they would listen you know i mean more and more he was

00:04:11.980 gaining friends even among that wing of course but you know in the beginning people feel threatened

00:04:16.660 by somebody who's coming up in their lane they don't want to lose their positions is he going to take

00:04:21.620 over the republican party and then charlie just by sheer force of will and personality and goodness

00:04:26.860 won them over it was to know him truly was to love him and you're going to see that i think very rarely

00:04:33.920 you know people that work with a very demanding hard driving person which charlie was there's no doubt

00:04:40.880 you very rarely do you couple that with the more time you spend with them the more you love him

00:04:46.340 and everybody in this building and turning point staff will have the same exact reaction

00:04:52.880 he was endearing in the most amazing way and i i had told so many people this actually i'm really proud

00:05:01.100 that i got to before he died that you just can't help but love the guy because the mission his belief

00:05:08.120 his faith and his he was generous to a fault he was loyal to a fault and he was trustworthy

00:05:14.400 and he would never ever spill the beans he wouldn't gossip i never heard him say a negative word about

00:05:21.060 anybody no even on the air we you know he'd come on we'd be talking about who's in the news

00:05:24.540 and half our friends are always in the news because they say controversial things what have you

00:05:28.420 and so you always got to you know treat it gingerly when you're going to talk about something

00:05:32.340 like that but charlie was always he would always say i'm just never going to say anything bad

00:05:35.460 about that person he would own it you know like i don't care whether they're in the news or not

00:05:39.360 i'm not going to do that yeah even if he disagreed with them privately you know a lot of our

00:05:43.000 friends would say things that would you know cause a big stir and there was pressure you got to condemn

00:05:49.420 this you got to call this person out you got to do this and charlie was like no no he never did

00:05:53.820 and honestly i'm i'm now trying to live by that example i i'm not going to lose my generally cynical

00:06:00.060 mofo nature that's technically not a swear i just want no yeah we don't swear on the seven words yeah

00:06:06.260 i know um yeah no poor charlie i would subject him to my potty mouth and he was such a good sport

00:06:11.180 about it but no we are we are on his show now we will be good um but so i'm not going to lose that

00:06:17.380 but i am it gave me pause to think about not not being too quick to condemn people who we like and

00:06:25.720 who deserve the benefit of the doubt well in this moment i know there's a lot of people online i we

00:06:30.660 hear you uh that are saying different things and that are they're processing their guilt in the way

00:06:37.860 that their grief their grief their grief thank you and they're they're mourning in the way that

00:06:43.260 they know how and it's going to come out in a thousand different ways and we are trying to give

00:06:48.060 everybody space to do that obviously i personally andrew colvette would do it a one way but other

00:06:53.780 people are going to do it another way and we're we really do have to honor charlie in that way and

00:06:58.600 say charlie was a master of collecting people he was yep and there is a reason for that i couldn't

00:07:05.560 agree with you more i mean i have always tried to not choose a side within republican politics to try

00:07:10.980 to keep the door open to everybody he made me look like an amateur at that because there wasn't any

00:07:15.980 you look at like you america fest you look at the student action summit you look at any event that charlie

00:07:20.740 put on you'd have everybody from all ideological wings of the party yeah he managed to hold this

00:07:26.540 coalition together in a way few can i mean few other than donald trump can no for real and i think

00:07:33.240 you know and i've said this before but i just want everybody to keep hearing it

00:07:37.520 that charlie looked at the virtues the roles that one could play in society and he was borrowing this

00:07:47.240 from the greeks and others but being a statesman being a philosopher being a theologian are the

00:07:52.820 highest callings and he told me what some of the deepest conversations that we had before he died

00:07:57.620 saying you know everybody can be everybody can open a stream and say crazy things but not everybody

00:08:05.100 can be a statesman not everybody can be a coalition builder it's really hard to build and he was very

00:08:10.560 proud that we had built something that he had built something that was is an institution that's going to

00:08:17.420 outlive him with friends that of all different parts of the party that love him and that admire him

00:08:25.760 and so we had i'm not kidding we talked for hours about this on a few different occasions about why that

00:08:32.700 was the highest calling i could tell he was working that out with me and not just working that out but what

00:08:38.820 i've learned just since charlie died is working to be the person i did not realize how much work charlie put

00:08:46.960 into these campus appearances and honing his game and making sure he was at the at the peak in terms of

00:08:54.440 his ability to have these exchanges he disciplined his body to do it from he was a biohacker he was religious

00:09:01.440 about sleep he didn't put uh poisons into his body he he really understood that he had to get the most out

00:09:09.160 of himself and he found time to do the most bizarre things like i i i he on the biohack front he journaled

00:09:15.780 he he read books he listened to books on tapes he found ways to maximize every single second i think one of

00:09:23.900 the services you and erica could when everyone's feeling better provide for his fans would be to put

00:09:30.300 together a list of what charlie read i feel like everybody would want to see that just the best

00:09:35.020 you can cobble it together just go to his bookcase go to his you know kindle whatever because the i

00:09:41.300 think people would love to know what influenced him he influenced them what influenced him we've got news

00:09:46.260 to make we're going to take a quick break we'll come back and we'll make it welcome back everyone i'm

00:09:55.900 megan kelly sitting in on the car the charlie kirk show and it's my honor to be here out in phoenix

00:10:01.020 arizona with his team and we're simulcasting for our audience on sirius xm as well um i'm here with

00:10:06.700 his like top lieutenants and they've been through so much over the past week and they know charlie so

00:10:12.540 well we thought it'd be great to bring some of these guys in and talk about some of their memories of

00:10:17.100 charlie which we're going to do this is blake neff uh he's what will you describe what you did for

00:10:21.960 charlie i was a producer uh you know helped get guests for the show but also especially

00:10:27.080 talking points researching issues you know what do we want to say about this and he would come to me

00:10:32.280 blake you know what do we think about this issue and you know charlie is a busy guy so sometimes it

00:10:36.820 was my job to go and read the 400 page book about something so i can give him a 10 page digest of it

00:10:42.420 later aren't you didn't he call you his secret weapon i'm told that he didn't tell that to my face

00:10:47.240 yes i'll accept it i heard he called you his secret weapon and then there's mikey mccoy how you doing

00:10:51.760 mikey good all right tell us what you did for charlie yeah i was his chief of staff worked for him

00:10:55.840 almost six years um yeah organized so he took you out of your cradle he he plucked me out saved me

00:11:02.100 from going to college he did right no for real he said i don't want you to go to college i want you

00:11:05.980 to come work for me so best decision i made um yeah so with him for six years i see his swiss army

00:11:12.540 knife if a problem would arise i'd go and solve it for him kept his life organized and traveled with

00:11:17.620 him everywhere and he was always so complimentary of his team andrew i mean whenever you give him

00:11:21.380 a compliment he would give it back to you guys he never took the compliment directly um and now

00:11:26.100 there's a question about who's going to lead the team going forward and who's going to lead this

00:11:30.200 enormously important organization um and i understand you have some news on that front

00:11:35.440 yeah um since everything has happened i think the number one question is what is going to happen

00:11:42.880 with turning point what is going to happen next and i'm pleased to be able to announce with you and

00:11:49.480 i think it's appropriate because of who you are and who this person is that the turning point board has

00:11:56.640 unanimously selected erica kirk as the new ceo and chair of the board and not only is that amazing in

00:12:06.180 and of itself but i can assure you megan that charlie told me personally and he told others he probably

00:12:11.580 told mikey that if anything ever happened to him that this is exactly what he wanted wow i have the

00:12:18.020 chills it had to be right i mean it's just i don't think anybody would accept a leader of the

00:12:25.500 organization who they didn't feel completely understood charlie and would be a hundred percent

00:12:30.660 dedicated to fulfilling his vision for where this group is going well and let me just add one more

00:12:35.900 thing and i want mikey and to chime in here as well but in the immediate hours afterwards erica got a

00:12:44.700 call from somebody very important leave that vague out of privacy but she got a call from somebody very

00:12:51.100 important and the question was what do you know sort of asking how much of what's going on behind the

00:13:00.900 scenes and with the relationship like what do you know and her reply back was everything i know

00:13:07.840 everything that's good you can tell um the bits of the two of them you know and showing like the clips

00:13:17.520 that you guys have released show first of all their immense intense love story which has been so

00:13:23.640 uplifting to everybody who's ever felt love or wanted to in their lives and we pulled this one that you

00:13:28.980 guys ran because it's so touching it's um 17 and it's her when they were engaged sitting on this set

00:13:36.980 i think let's watch it i'm not gonna be able to focus sitting this close to him hi you ready

00:13:44.640 what hello hello i'm not gonna be able to focus looking right at you i'm just gonna be staring at you

00:13:58.260 hello hello oh wow ready tarryl hold on we're rolling we're not all right you'll be switching

00:14:08.400 all right i'll count it down wait i'm kind of nervous you guys nervous which is why we must get going

00:14:14.740 all right we ready no okay three two one hey everybody welcome to this episode of the charlie

00:14:25.000 kirk show you're gonna have to do it again introduce yourself is that what you're gonna say

00:14:30.040 hey everybody welcome to this episode of the charlie kirk show

00:14:39.100 i'm engaged

00:14:41.600 would you like to introduce yourself or should i introduce you

00:14:47.020 how would you like me to start all right we'll try it again hey everybody welcome to this episode

00:14:58.440 of the charlie kirk show joining me is the most special guest my fiancee erica welcome to the charlie

00:15:07.280 kirk show wow i don't know about you guys but i was holding it together just fine up until that

00:15:13.940 their love story was something yeah um charlie knew how good erica was we know how good erica was

00:15:20.680 and when she made her address the other night right next to this chair i think the whole nation

00:15:25.100 found out how good erica was the amount of strength that that took she she's our khaleesi 0.99

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00:16:55.280 be silenced you're listening to the charlie kirk show welcome back everyone i'm megan kelly sitting

00:17:02.080 in charlie's studio with some of his dear friends and staffers and uh i don't know you guys today has

00:17:09.240 a different feel for me i've been listening all week with jd the vice president uh with the guys from

00:17:13.920 daily wire who i love with glenn and of course we've been covering everything about charlie since

00:17:18.540 you know last week on my own show and just being with you all i feel better i don't know like

00:17:24.160 today just seems like we're able to laugh a little like it's not that people aren't in grieving but it's

00:17:30.820 a sign of mental well-being that you can find a way to like chuckle here and there you know i i had my

00:17:37.760 first laugh actually the other day when my friend reminded me of my favorite exchange with charlie it was

00:17:44.040 very funny and it was actually it arose out of a time when charlie was in trouble with the left for

00:17:49.200 having said something that they thought was terrible and i knew wasn't terrible and it was

00:17:52.780 part of his courage and saying something that everybody believes but they would never say it out

00:17:57.060 loud it was about how they were so focused on hiring women and black pilots and minority pilots

00:18:03.100 and going from three percent to 50 right there was a 50 that we were gonna have to worry about who

00:18:10.240 the hell was flying the planes because it was like what do you mean there's black people only 13 percent 0.54

00:18:14.360 of the population how are we gonna have 50 percent of them being pilots anyway so which was bull it 0.71

00:18:19.440 happened never mind of course i have it um and hold on let me find it here he came on my show january

00:18:26.140 2024 and made the following point as only charlie could sought 22. dei invites unwholesome thinking

00:18:35.660 and i said i don't and i was saying in the clip that's not who i am that's not what i believe but

00:18:42.300 what it does is it makes us worse versions of ourselves megan that's the whole point of what i was

00:18:48.340 saying is that i now look at everything through a hyper racialized diversity quota lens because of their

00:18:57.100 massive insistence to try to hit these ridiculous racial hiring quotas three to four percent of current

00:19:05.240 pilots are blacks right now three to four percent and now they want to say this is just a hiring

00:19:11.060 class of candidates are there enough candidates to fill the 50 percent quota and the other question

00:19:17.460 should be asked is why is it a problem let's just ask the premise why is it a problem that 81 percent are

00:19:23.320 white and i just i love the axios guy well white males are dominating the cockpit yeah those pesky safe 0.55

00:19:30.200 flights are dominating our society megan you know all those you know all those 25 years of

00:19:36.640 commercial airliners that have kept on i mean dominating as if like the white male is like

00:19:43.260 oppressing us with you know their beautiful landings through turbulence and storms

00:19:49.500 you know just because he said that at the end i think one of a great little charlie thing every time

00:19:55.480 a plane took off he would say lord bless this flight right as it began to accelerate and then

00:20:01.000 when i joined i would add lord bless this landing because i find that a pretty important part of it

00:20:05.480 that helps so tell us something about charlie that we don't know oh man who's got one of those

00:20:10.440 blake mikey you know i think we also have two we have two new guest stars here i want to tell

00:20:15.360 everybody we have daisy phelps uh and we have emma k bartles and emma k you did charlie's social media

00:20:20.960 and daisy you seem like you did everything media director i just kind of explained it as podcast

00:20:26.740 media digital media sponsorship media whatever charlie said did for charlie and now will continue

00:20:33.520 doing for erica and turning point we're all in it sorry yeah what were you gonna say so i one of the

00:20:38.920 things mikey and i agreed we were really happy he got to do uh you know one of the things about

00:20:43.140 charlie is he was so famous he had no anonymity anymore in america and he actually really liked going

00:20:48.040 out on walks and so we were actually in asia just the weekend before this happened and we were in

00:20:55.580 seoul and i'd been there a little bit early i was going to a wedding for a friend of mine and so when

00:21:01.080 he got in i was like charlie the best way to understand the city just kind of walk around and

00:21:05.120 see how it's different and so you know we were there he got in on a friday and so i think uh

00:21:10.320 saturday morning he just got up extremely early 5 30 a.m and he just started walking around

00:21:15.940 the streets of seoul and for once he got to just wander a city and he's just for most of the

00:21:21.060 people there he's just kind of this foreigner i mean wandering around their city he's tall so tall

00:21:25.240 american standards he would draw everyone's gaze he would draw everyone's gaze but you know for once

00:21:29.640 he could just wander a city as a traveler and he really liked to do that i didn't realize what a

00:21:34.240 big walker he was big walker yeah my version of tourism is you stop at a cafe you eat you keep

00:21:39.420 walking you stop you shop charlie's is you just walk walk walk walk walk walk and it was 90 degrees

00:21:44.820 90 humidity we're sweating through our suits and we're all like what is he gonna stop walking

00:21:51.480 finally he stopped at a coffee shop and we were like okay we're gonna get like 10 minutes here no

00:21:55.920 two minutes two minutes and we're back out in the heat but like no vices right like did he even get

00:22:00.620 the coffee or did he get the midnight tea he got the mint tea classic mint tea with two honey

00:22:06.160 no alcohol getting now there are so many outside of hq people leave their did you their mid majesty

00:22:12.200 with two honeys did you see that story daisy of the they posted on x um at somebody an older woman a 1.00

00:22:19.260 grandmother went into a starbucks and asked for that and they gave it to her and they wrote loser on it

00:22:25.880 well her family unleashed holy you know what on the this starbucks to the point where they were 0.58

00:22:33.600 temporarily closed when the family went back to find accountability it's amazing though it's like

00:22:37.960 the story's not about some loser who wrote loser right it's about people have had it they're pushing

00:22:43.300 back charlie style because the confrontation was actually very polite but it was like you're not

00:22:49.180 going to do this to us well and what's funny is we had just at our student action summit in florida

00:22:54.580 we did approve me wrong which was kind of the first we'd done at one of our own events so it was

00:22:59.260 supposed to be more light-hearted pretty much everyone that's there loves charlie is his supporter

00:23:04.500 and so most of the questions some of them were like about the the bears the cubs what if he likes

00:23:11.180 waffles or pancakes and then what his starbucks order was because we talked about it the other day

00:23:15.220 but he would have these cough drops all the time and people would think they were zen they were just

00:23:19.280 cough drops he had to have them for his throat and then people would ask what his starbucks was and

00:23:23.240 everyone was guessing in the crowd and emma k posted that video and people it went viral

00:23:28.000 yeah they loved knowing what he had they just love real stories you're incredibly talented charlie's

00:23:32.180 social media is next level so i don't know how how you manage that but through the social media right

00:23:36.480 now people are reconnecting with him or connecting for the first time in like a really unprecedented

00:23:41.460 i've never seen anything like it a hundred percent i saw a tiktok this morning of somebody saying

00:23:47.040 they tried to silence charlie but i hadn't really seen his videos or paid attention to them

00:23:51.940 he's like now i'm going down a charlie kirk rabbit hole i'm watching every video i'm listening to

00:23:55.980 every podcast you all are i he was like i can't believe i'm just now discovering this but i feel

00:24:00.900 so blessed that there's so much on the internet that even after his death people are still getting

00:24:07.520 to know him and love him it's one of the few blessings around this thing is like all the hours

00:24:11.820 of tape i think i saw the same one where he was like you guys made me obsessed with charlie i didn't

00:24:15.980 even know him until this right now speaking of obsessions you two share one and charlie tapped

00:24:21.120 into it more than once tell us just any sort of taylor swift news that come up he would just like

00:24:26.220 explain this what's happening and then when we were in the office when the news broke about

00:24:30.840 them getting engaged and charlie was so excited for them he was like this is amazing more people

00:24:35.780 should get married and yes have kids this is a great example for everyone on brand like yes

00:24:40.820 exactly we're so happy for taylor well that's i have a question for about charlie for you guys so

00:24:45.640 i mean he was human there were there were people who would irritate him i know because i talked to

00:24:50.260 him about some of those people would he how would he handle that like taylor is one of them she came

00:24:54.880 out and she endorsed kamala she said it was because of kamala's lgbtq stance of tim waltz actually was

00:25:00.340 i mean crazy statements so how would he get past that and then be had like he seemed to be able to do

00:25:06.720 that with everybody i would say for the most part instead of him getting irritated by

00:25:10.520 people in pop culture it more so just went to the side of him and he wouldn't really pay attention

00:25:15.360 until we'd be like hey this is i remember one time he's out he's like what is brat summer because

00:25:20.800 everyone's talking about it but like it didn't annoy him because he didn't even know about it he was

00:25:24.180 just so focused on what he needed to do yes so what we're believing here is charlie was a nerd

00:25:30.040 yeah yeah there you go which is fine you know i mean andrew was telling me about how they

00:25:34.100 like intentionally made him not nerdy for the uh prove me wrong segments like maybe maybe we won't wear

00:25:39.700 the suit you know maybe we'll wear a t-shirt and that worked right he gained a lot of extra fans

00:25:44.820 he still was pretty alpha we got i think we can all agree but it's an interesting combination right

00:25:49.500 because he was a brainiac but he was alpha yeah and he was like the ultimate pinnacle example of what

00:25:54.160 being a man is and so being more like charlie he he never drank alcohol he'd go to the gym he always

00:26:01.020 ate healthy he always had that starbucks order he always took care of his you know vocal cords with

00:26:05.620 his throat coats and everything discipline he was a disciplined alpha male and when when he had to

00:26:10.520 tap into the nerdy side of him to learn something he would tap into how did he so he didn't want you

00:26:15.020 to go to college and you agreed not to and then did he put you through college yeah yeah i think i

00:26:21.040 learned more under charlie but i also one of my favorite stories of charlie since we're all just

00:26:25.760 kind of going around i literally probably my favorites we're at the rnc and jd had just come out on stage

00:26:31.420 and whether you guys know it or not charlie played a role in jd being the vice president and um he comes

00:26:37.300 out on stage charlie was so excited he we snuck on the floor we didn't have a pass we went to the

00:26:41.940 very front it was just me and charlie and jd says something about joe biden and this was right after

00:26:46.440 the debate and everybody was like joe's gotta go joe's gotta go joe's gotta go and charlie turns

00:26:52.860 around looks at me in the cinematic way and he goes careful what you wish for and i was like oh my gosh

00:26:59.500 and then the next i think a couple days later i don't even remember kamala harris is i know

00:27:04.700 more fundraising more battles yeah more pain right he charlie was very funny and he had

00:27:13.160 so many funny one-liners where he almost he wasn't trying to be funny but it was just those

00:27:19.940 quick little ones like i can remember on juneteenth this year he sent us a video

00:27:25.640 he said i can't remember exactly what he said he said happy juneteenth i'm on my way to work

00:27:33.440 go to work today everybody have a good day you did not take off that national holiday no we did not

00:27:39.900 we were here working but it was just those funny little selfie videos he would always send in our

00:27:46.200 chats where most of them would get posted on tiktok or stories or whatever um like what like he would

00:27:52.360 send videos of himself to the team just selfie videos just doing little quick commentary on

00:27:56.920 whatever was happening or just telling a story or giving updates and it was always those really

00:28:02.360 short ones that i loved the most because they were just so funny without trying to be funny and people

00:28:07.140 loved them that's hilarious so it wasn't necessarily for social media but it was like for all of you yeah

00:28:11.440 and we we would post them a good amount but it was just you know it was just kind of a little bit of

00:28:17.560 behind the scenes charlie yeah that you know people love to see it a really fun behind the scenes

00:28:23.340 charlie so he was a sports fan and the way he would consume it had to be very intense because he

00:28:27.860 doesn't have you know other than saturday you know which he always was strict about taking off you

00:28:32.300 know he didn't have the time to just lounge around watching a game so the one i'll always remember

00:28:37.700 is uh shortly after i joined uh you know we had the world cup in qatar and he was all invested in

00:28:44.540 the u.s doing well and so he was watching the world cup games on his phone during the show

00:28:52.040 and was reacting to things in the game during the segments he'd also always have the ipad with him

00:28:57.800 yeah always had an ipad with him and he was always watching sports on the side the same with the cubs

00:29:02.060 erica mentioned the cubs and did she say the ducks big ducks fan we have a flag that now why

00:29:07.940 studio for a while why as it's where his family went to college and he he wanted to inherit a

00:29:13.640 college football team and it was his he was so passionate he would sometimes say you know i i

00:29:18.340 just want to retire and go coach college football that was what he would say if he was frustrated

00:29:21.980 like i should just quit and go coach college same with the olympics in march mattis we had ipad set up

00:29:27.220 all around the studio so he would constantly know what's happening in the games once you've been

00:29:31.240 president uh coaching a sports team seems like a great thing and that was clearly in charlie's future

00:29:35.840 all right we're gonna take a break we'll be right back don't leave

00:29:38.020 welcome back everyone i'm megan kelly i'm sitting here on charlie kirk's set and what an honor to be

00:29:52.040 hosting his show today as we simulcast the megan kelly show as well and i have to tell you like

00:29:57.000 we've been we've been joking in between the commercial breaks like i don't know how it's been

00:30:01.740 here for you guys but this is the first i haven't laughed this much in a week i don't know it just

00:30:06.440 feels good to talk about him in a more light-hearted way because that's who he was i mean of course the

00:30:11.720 last thing charlie would have wanted was for us to be all sitting around feeling sad especially while

00:30:15.960 talking about him so to me this feels like an appropriate way of handling grief too um i'm joined

00:30:23.300 now by two additional uh staffers for charlie danny phillip and um hold on nate walker that's correct

00:30:31.600 you're nate and you're danny and uh katherine locastro yeah and you did all admin you do all

00:30:36.980 the abby stuff it's from the sound of it like admin organizing organizing everything yes this must be

00:30:43.220 so hard i how are you handling all this yeah thank you i mean um it's been really special to have the

00:30:49.520 team that we have to lean on each other and um get through it together i think it definitely has been

00:30:54.700 incredibly busy and it's kind of interesting to balance the grief and the busyness of everything but

00:31:01.420 um i think the will to work is contagious and i mean i'm just following mikey's lead and erica's lead

00:31:07.820 and trying to do everything that charlie would have wanted which is to keep going and to just

00:31:12.080 work harder than ever so um yeah definitely busy and the busyness is a blessing it is i mean it's

00:31:18.160 amazing charlie's life work is keeping everyone occupied in a way that i think is good and is

00:31:22.780 productive um so nate tell us what you did for charlie yeah i was charlie's um executive assistant

00:31:28.820 um the day-to-day charlie uh make sure he has his food water clothes um all the stuff that

00:31:34.440 he doesn't need to think about i uh would do for him and uh clothes how do you do clothes yeah you

00:31:40.280 figure that out you uh it was difficult not not the easiest job we have the clothing racks in the

00:31:45.420 warehouse yeah some days i would just have to guess figure out what is charlie going to want to wear 0.67

00:31:49.540 today and uh sometimes i'd be right sometimes not but well can i ask you this is um not not to take it

00:31:55.240 to a darker place but we're all wearing these freedom shirts the same shirt that charlie was

00:31:59.720 wearing yeah on the day he was killed what is there a story behind this shirt yeah so we uh we

00:32:05.440 usually bring a couple shirts um to the to the campus stops and uh i asked charlie in the car i go

00:32:10.960 charlie what what shirt do you want to wear he goes i want to wear the freedom shirt that uh that's

00:32:15.220 not controversial what were the other options oh i can't i can't remember exactly did he did he wear

00:32:20.360 like the one that my son has with trump giving double middle fingers no no no it's twice not

00:32:25.720 those ones it would always say something never surrender here i am freedom it was he liked his

00:32:31.280 short taglines i was actually when you guys asked if i would wear this on the air i was so honored and

00:32:37.260 i'm i feel like i have such a treasure having this shirt yeah you know i just such a treasure now

00:32:42.800 um danny what'd you do for for charlie um so i did like research and prep for him

00:32:48.300 for the show oh wow meetings events that's a heavy lift yeah stuff like that because he was

00:32:53.720 meticulous yeah and then it would also be like okay five minutes before the event starts i need

00:32:58.900 more on this so find more on this specific person or something like that so it was always something

00:33:03.900 like what what did what was he like in that in that way what like what would interest him

00:33:07.800 he would be interested in the most specific stuff sometimes and then sometimes he wouldn't care

00:33:14.380 um mikey probably knows about this too but yeah he would want very specific details on very

00:33:20.640 specific things that really no one else would think about yeah and then other times he would

00:33:25.460 just be like i'm just gonna wing it i got it covered and then you'd probably hear that stuff

00:33:30.340 actually come up in one of the q a's on the prove me wrong segments like oh wait a minute

00:33:34.640 actually he needed that yeah right that i mean that's everyone's marveling right now on the

00:33:39.780 internet at charlie's depth of knowledge about everything how how can anyone here explain that

00:33:47.100 how yeah he was diligent as we said earlier on on the show was he constantly studying constantly

00:33:53.440 studying reading a book and his time management was impeccable if he didn't have time to read a book

00:33:58.460 he'd have blake read a book for him danny read a book for him and he'd have people come out and

00:34:02.780 mentor him and talk to him about details and frank turek would be here and he would

00:34:06.600 pour into charlie and charlie be taking you know meticulous notes and study it and then

00:34:11.300 everything was focused towards his campus tours he wanted to give knowledge that he could glean from

00:34:17.240 the world to all these students across america that's an interesting question was that was the were

00:34:21.980 the campus tours the his dominant focus or was it the big student events or was it the show it was

00:34:28.740 it was everything it was everything and how he was able to manage it all i don't think anybody will

00:34:33.180 really know and he was a he he slept and he still was able to do normal human things while managing a

00:34:39.420 million tasks i can't imagine you trying to get him to like sit down with you and go over logistics

00:34:44.800 when he is this you know busy and and important corraling him and mikey was definitely a challenge at

00:34:50.640 times but sometimes i would say i just need 30 seconds i have a few things i need to go over and

00:34:55.080 so would you just send him a video on the group chat charlie i need you yeah that would have been

00:34:59.780 helpful but you just needed a little bit of time to nail things down and we had a good routine so

00:35:04.300 you know you seem like somebody who can handle that not everybody has those executive management

00:35:07.920 skills so just meeting all of you it's very clear he had a very clear eye for talent and everyone here

00:35:13.180 is so young i just feel i'm so sorry that you've had such a tragedy at such a young point in your lives

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00:36:08.340 we absolutely have to keep talking it's more important now than ever to cower to hide to go

00:36:21.060 silent is not the answer and all i can tell you is there is no fucking way i am canceling one stop on 0.95

00:36:28.160 this chore not one stop i'm going i'm going to stand on these stages and i'm going to say all the 0.66

00:36:37.460 things that we say all the time on this show we're going to make it safe for me we're going to make

00:36:40.880 it safe for my team and my guests and you we're going coast to coast and do something really

00:36:47.120 important which is say what's true and what's real to honor him i really now more than ever would love

00:36:54.440 to see you all face to face god i would love to see you face to face i need to see you face to face

00:37:01.260 i am doing this tour and i would love for you to join me megankelly.com for the tickets

00:37:07.260 welcome back everyone to the charlie kirk show i'm megan kelly sitting in for charlie

00:37:19.820 and simulcasting now on series xm on the megan kelly show as well which is perfect for me that's

00:37:25.440 perfect the two of us kind of holding hands yeah and doing the shows together which is what we did

00:37:29.720 when he was with us mikey let me ask you because there are a lot of questions in conservative circles

00:37:35.860 now about what's going to happen with the organization because turning points become

00:37:38.800 very important to a lot of people yeah and i i hope there are no turf wars i hope there's nothing

00:37:45.420 like no it has to go this way no it has to go that way i think you know choosing erica to be

00:37:49.440 charlie's successor is the perfect way to stop all that yeah just to keep it consistent with charlie's

00:37:53.300 vision but what are your thoughts on how you keep it consistent with what charlie wanted

00:37:59.500 and keep it going yeah without him yeah um erica said it the other night um he was a he was an

00:38:06.520 excellent person to pick people he loved picking people and choosing talent finding talent and acquiring

00:38:12.120 talent and he would want to pluck somebody and bring them on the team if they were good at a job

00:38:17.080 um but i was telling you earlier with erica that for the first time i got a little emotional two days

00:38:25.080 ago because for the first time when i was talking to her about where the organization's going how we're

00:38:29.080 going to continue charlie's legacy how we're going to really 10x this organization to become

00:38:34.060 what what charlie inevitably wanted it to become i i hearing her thoughts and the way she was talking

00:38:41.180 and breaking things down i felt like for the first time i was speaking to charlie for the first time

00:38:44.780 again um and he told her everything he private conversations everything he was shared with erica

00:38:51.400 she knew everything and from the way she texts to the way she talks and i i can confidently say that

00:38:58.280 i feel like it's charlie still leading this organization and we just announced it that erica

00:39:03.300 is going to be the chief executive officer of turning point usa and for the operators for the people that

00:39:09.320 helped run this organization with charlie we know we know exactly what he wanted in his meetings what

00:39:13.880 his vision was his push and the event coming on sunday we all just keep sending quotes to each other

00:39:19.600 more people make it bigger and it's we it's he's ingrained in us he's still there and it's just

00:39:25.580 like every difficult situation every hard trial that comes up it's almost like we have a blueprint

00:39:31.980 that charlie's just embedded into our minds can the the event on sunday honoring charlie's life

00:39:38.560 it's going to have heads of state i mean every administration official like that place is going to be in

00:39:44.200 lockdown i'm sure first of all but have you been overwhelmed with the number of responses

00:39:48.000 it it's touching the amount of responses not just with the event but also outside of the event

00:39:53.340 the amount of people messaging me everybody on this team the organization saying for the first time

00:39:59.240 in seven years ten years ever this is their first time going back to church and that they sat in

00:40:04.280 that empty seat that charlie left in the sanctuary and they turned to their neighbor and they said

00:40:08.280 charlie brought me here and they and other messages said for every sunday after this i'll go back

00:40:12.160 for god but for the sunday i'm going for charlie kirk and the the over pouring of responses outside

00:40:19.440 of this event it's beautiful but the event specifically you're right every head there's

00:40:24.120 heads of state coming the entire white house essentially is coming yeah it's beautiful and i i

00:40:30.500 believe when air force one lands there's gonna be a lot of people that you guys will see at this

00:40:34.280 event it's gonna be very beautiful have you guys been i mean you knew charlie so well you knew

00:40:37.620 him on a date you're getting his clothes right and his food have you been surprised at like the

00:40:43.100 worldwide tributes to him the massive impact that his loss has had yeah for sure um you you when you're

00:40:52.440 with charlie every day he's not charlie kirk he's just charlie um and then you know something like

00:40:58.180 this happens and it just his reach was so big um it was bigger than anything i think we ever even

00:41:04.080 realized um me personally especially and he was just so you think you're working for a company not

00:41:09.680 necessarily a cause and then you realize right yeah something far more profound it's way bigger than

00:41:14.500 um any of us and it's bigger than charlie it's uh yeah it's really cool can i ask you guys like what

00:41:20.460 were you how did you get the news last week were you here yeah we were me and danny were both there

00:41:25.620 you were oh you were there on site with him on site yeah oh gosh danny 0.81

00:41:29.980 i mean did you worry about security in advance of these events because i know charlie he said

00:41:37.300 openly he'd been getting death threats yeah we always would worry um but it wasn't really our job

00:41:43.580 to worry we were just kind of more so focused on uh doing what we had to for the team and whoever's

00:41:48.500 job that was you know we trusted them and everything and we still do um his team did great um so yeah it

00:41:55.560 was never really we were more so just focused on doing what we needed to uh for charlie i have to

00:42:01.100 imagine there was a level of disbelief on your part too just like there was for those of us who

00:42:04.740 weren't there who were watching on tv yeah yeah just um just kind of state of shock at first yeah

00:42:11.940 has it been helpful to come back to the office and like be with each other yeah absolutely i think

00:42:17.760 leaning on each other has been the most important thing through all of it um it's sort of an

00:42:23.260 unspeakable feeling that i think we're all experiencing but to be able to go through it

00:42:28.620 together has been very very helpful do you like i personally have been surprised at how many people

00:42:35.900 feel this personally i mean people openly weeping who never met charlie and actually who weren't even

00:42:41.260 necessarily fans not detractors but not fans either and it's i think because of the content that's being

00:42:47.240 pushed out that they're getting to know him of course the violence with which he was taken but also

00:42:51.900 just the content do you have somebody going through hours and hours of charlie tape and like

00:42:56.380 refreshing it for us like how are we getting all this new content what feels like new yeah yeah i

00:43:01.180 mean charlie would bank hours of content he did four hours a day and then on top of that he was doing

00:43:06.180 five speeches a week he was he we were traveling like we're supposed to be in colorado state today

00:43:11.740 we're supposed to be in nashville tomorrow he would just bank these these speeches and content we

00:43:16.700 didn't even post all of them we have so many speeches that haven't even been posted speaking to

00:43:20.420 it would groups on friday he was supposed to be speaking at a church event today he was supposed

00:43:25.780 to be speaking to students at colorado state and wow when we were in ha he was speaking to a random

00:43:30.500 group of japanese people and at the america fest equivalent in korea um but to to their point

00:43:38.420 security wise i don't think it matters what the security was nothing was going to stop charlie from

00:43:45.380 giving his message where it needed to be and he died too soon but he was always ready to die

00:43:53.140 everything he did he poured into it 100 he was always dedicated to his work dedicated to his message

00:43:59.740 he knew the truth was the truth he'd always say north is north no matter what it's there's objective

00:44:05.200 truths that need to be shared to the world and he was ready to share those when i saw you know found

00:44:11.380 out that he'd been wearing a bulletproof vest i thought to myself oh my god like i didn't i didn't

00:44:16.980 even know that it had gotten that bad yeah like in terms of the death threats because we all sadly do

00:44:22.120 get death threats in this in the public eye yeah um had it escalated prior to last week we've always

00:44:29.640 gotten threats before um nobody's ever really acted on them like in this way but we have received stuff in

00:44:37.060 the past it's so sick right it's like that this should be the cost for saying what you believe

00:44:43.100 truth now everybody wants to know what charlie would think about everything you know i'm talking

00:44:48.000 to a lot of people they say well what would charlie think about this what would charlie think about

00:44:50.320 that and i try desperately not to answer those questions because it's just not up to me to say

00:44:53.680 that kind of thing i feel like erica can say that and nobody else can say that exactly um but i do

00:45:00.380 wonder i feel like charlie would might be happy about the jimmy kimmel situation

00:45:04.880 he put out a tweet i literally i posted on my story today jimmy kimmel isn't funny it was a tweet

00:45:11.720 that he posted way back when he was right he hasn't been funny for a long time as president 0.96

00:45:19.220 trump would say yeah rosie's a loser she's been a loser for a long time as if it's like a you know 0.93

00:45:23.840 it's quantifiable exactly when she became a loser and same with jimmy kimmel he was once funny and he's 0.98

00:45:28.520 not anymore not anymore and like president trump with the anti with the with the uh antifa declaration

00:45:33.780 today i thought that was amazing like that was a group that charlie called a lot of attention to

00:45:38.060 yeah and obviously may have had some connection to what happened last week but what what do you

00:45:44.260 make of the the kimmel termination i love it it's just indefinite suspension justice i think we are

00:45:50.320 all waiting for it it's it's a shame i mean charlie's seeing it and he's loving it but to only see his

00:45:55.460 reaction to it would have been priceless for all of us who work so closely with him but yeah we love

00:46:00.820 it nobody thinks jimmy kimmel's funny anymore no so and the nerve i mean the nerve of that guy

00:46:06.020 to suggest that that this guy was was mega i know like disgusting there was no way he was getting

00:46:11.500 away with that and we're going to talk more about that when walter kern joins me next he's got lots

00:46:16.240 of thoughts you guys i think i speak for everyone i say we are all sending you all of our love all of

00:46:20.900 our support i am of course willing to do whatever whatever it takes to keep turning point going

00:46:26.120 forward in as robustly and strongly as ever and i know everybody out there is feeling it in terms

00:46:31.160 of donations you guys just keep telling us what you need and we'll all be there thank you much love

00:46:35.720 to you thank you uh okay don't go away because there is a lot to talk about in the actual news

00:46:41.000 and we will talk about jimmy kimmel and president obama's whining

00:46:44.540 welcome back everyone to the charlie kirk show i'm megan kelly it's completely an honor to be

00:46:53.420 sitting here in charlie's studio wearing the freedom shirt and talking with charlie's staff

00:46:59.100 and about how charlie lived his life it's amazing here everyone is young everyone is energetic everyone

00:47:07.900 is you know in a weird way upbeat and by that i mean like they're obviously in deep

00:47:14.460 grief but they are finding a way to laugh with one another and be with one another

00:47:18.460 and forge forward and i i will tell you this is the most optimistic i have felt since eight days ago

00:47:25.100 about the future of turning point i just feel like these people we are in good hands like this

00:47:29.420 organization will go forward and they can do it not not only can they do it because they knew charlie

00:47:34.860 very well and they knew his vision and they've been doing it but you can just tell it's a family

00:47:39.660 and they are more committed now than ever to making sure that that this organization stands

00:47:44.780 and grows and becomes even stronger than it is right now and it's going to be hopefully other

00:47:49.980 than logistically it's going to be easy because they have the support of the world right now um and

00:47:57.820 they also keep getting bits of good news here and there like last night uh the decision that erica

00:48:03.340 kirk will take over as the ceo of turning point just saying it gives me the chills it's exactly of course what

00:48:09.340 charlie would have wanted you you know that from the tape you've seen of the two of them

00:48:13.180 and what was one of the most beautiful love stories any of us has ever witnessed and inspiration

00:48:17.820 even to those of us who have been married for 18 years and are already happily married to do even

00:48:22.860 better to try even harder to make our spouse even happier um and think of what somebody like that 0.98

00:48:30.700 can do at the top of this organization in the name of her husband i mean it's it's going to be

00:48:35.980 something to watch and participate in they need everybody's help um one of the other pieces of

00:48:41.580 good news is that jimmy kimmel is no longer on the air and we're absolutely thrilled we won't miss him at

00:48:48.780 all and i frankly all the liberal tear crying all over x is only making it better what's the opposite of

00:48:58.060 salt into your wounds sugar i don't know balm like it's wonderful to see them upset i'm sorry but

00:49:04.700 it's like um stephen l miller uh who's not to be confused with stephen miller the trump administration

00:49:10.060 senior official stephen l miller he's been on the show before he's very clever he's a great twitter

00:49:14.220 follow and he tweeted out or posted on x um national media being more upset at jimmy kimmel losing his show

00:49:22.300 than they are at charlie kirk losing his life is kind of proving the point i couldn't say it any

00:49:28.300 better than that that's exactly it they they're so they're way more upset about this news about this guy 0.91

00:49:34.220 this talking head who's been such a buffoon for so many years doing nothing other than 0.52

00:49:40.140 being unkind i'm trying not to swear it says right here on the top of my packet reminder no swearing 1.00

00:49:45.100 because i'm on charlie's show now he's he's so wholesome um but in any event being such a jerk for 0.96

00:49:51.820 so many years losing his show no one cares most normal people uh don't care walter kern do you 0.92

00:49:57.980 care he's my guest now and joins me via satellite walter your thoughts on jimmy kimmel and the leftist

00:50:03.420 meltdown well let me say something first uh two months ago charlie asked me to be on this show

00:50:11.180 i had never been on it before and uh i said no i was too busy i would get to him this fall

00:50:21.020 well he's not here and now i'm on his show with him not on earth which is a lesson to us all

00:50:29.820 don't put things off don't take things for granted and how quickly and terribly things can change so uh

00:50:37.180 i'm sorry mr kirk i uh uh i'm sorry that i delayed too long anyway what do i think of jimmy kimmel

00:50:49.260 well i do a little showbiz i write screenplays i've had movies made in my books i've written on tv shows

00:50:57.180 jimmy that's showbiz you weren't funny you weren't any good you wish death on half of your audience in

00:51:05.340 not so subtle ways hey wheezy rest in peace you made a false claim that this case had been cracked

00:51:14.540 and the culprit was maga other words half the u.s public now you're gone and you're gone legally 0.52

00:51:23.660 and i think legitimately because abc leases the public airwaves in order to make money and that

00:51:30.460 least comes with conditions and that is that it serves the public good basically yes and it wasn't

00:51:36.380 serving the public good it was it was acting on behalf of a regime it was acting on behalf of its

00:51:42.620 pharmaceutical advertisers that keep it you know that keep it supported it was slanting not just the

00:51:49.900 news but every joke it's not cable greg gutfeld is not comparable he's on cable news those are private

00:51:56.380 wires that are laid in the ground this is the public airwaves a stage that we give people on the

00:52:01.500 condition that they use it with decency and some sense of fairness and fair play and in the interest

00:52:09.020 of all of us who own it we own that station we merely lease it that's right and now they're finding

00:52:15.660 that there's a new sheriff in town at the fcc who actually is going to start enforcing these rules and

00:52:22.540 regulations i got to take a quick break but we're going to pick it up right here when we come back

00:52:26.860 and i'll tell you what jimmy kimmel has been saying in response to the news don't go away

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00:53:41.740 millions of fans now across the world and so many who listened to the show and depended on charlie

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00:53:54.780 that for him today and a shout out to the megan kelly show listeners too who are listening on siriusxm

00:54:01.100 and on our pod as well um jimmy kimmel wasn't sorry okay we played the soundbite on our show for

00:54:07.020 you yesterday and i'll play it here now just for those of you who haven't heard what got him

00:54:11.740 indefinitely suspended he's fired we'll see unless disney bends the knee but right now it's not looking

00:54:16.860 good for old jimbo um here's what he said in sat seven we hit some new lows over the weekend with the

00:54:24.940 maggot gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered charlie kirk is anything other than one 0.99

00:54:30.700 of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it so he's a despicable pig 0.98

00:54:37.740 and he said that when he knew that it wasn't the case the evidence had been ubiquitous about this 0.97

00:54:43.820 person's left-leaning and commitment to left-wing ideology we've gone through it repeatedly you all

00:54:49.820 know and all of that was out before jimmy kimmel said that on monday night did he come out on the air

00:54:54.380 on tuesday night and try to correct his lie no because it was a lie it was an intentional misstatement

00:54:59.260 of fact meant to mislead you it was not a mistake as some left-wing defenders are saying right now on

00:55:05.020 x and his plan on wednesday was not to go out and apologize that night either his plan according to

00:55:10.700 the hollywood reporter was to go out and claim that he was the victim because it was taken out of

00:55:14.940 context and he was going to give us the proper context in which somehow his lie about maga at a

00:55:20.620 time when maga is under greater threat than it's been in quite some time um that that he ginned up

00:55:26.540 that hatred during such a time when mag is grieving in a way it hasn't been so profoundly since

00:55:32.380 i've known it um that that he did that in a way that was just simply out of context okay more lies

00:55:38.300 and so the stations groups uh from next star uh and others by the way it wasn't just next star went

00:55:44.380 sinclair went uh to disney and said we're not running this show we're not going to be a part

00:55:49.900 of this not now not ever we're not we're no longer going to be complicit in his lies

00:55:56.140 and the fcc commissioner brandon carr had said earlier in the day that he wasn't going to tolerate

00:56:01.580 this that they have an actual duty to uphold the public interest on the airwaves and disney caved as it

00:56:07.900 should have he had no right that's literally what some are saying he had a right to be out there 1.00

00:56:12.060 with his show swall well he's an idiot um he had no right and now he's accurately and justly been 1.00

00:56:18.700 taken off the air so walter your thoughts on the leftist claim that this is government interference 1.00

00:56:25.100 which does make it a potential free speech problem i mean at least they have it right that when the

00:56:29.260 government's involved you have a potential first amendment issue but i mean my own thought on it is

00:56:34.700 yes that's right but government actually here does have a role that's that's actually statutorily

00:56:39.820 prescribed it absolutely does imagine yellowstone park a park that belongs to the people and it

00:56:47.260 grants a license to one particular company to lead tours but it says hey there's two things you can't

00:56:52.860 abuse the wildlife and you can't be mean to the tourists and then it starts abusing the wildlife and

00:56:58.780 being mean to the tourists does the federal government have a right to fire that person or at least threaten

00:57:04.220 them with it absolutely does that company that wants to keep that lease that special privilege

00:57:10.540 that allows them to make money uh have an interest in getting rid of that tour guide absolutely so that's

00:57:16.700 all that happened the rest is bombast you have a right to speak and i'm sure he'll have a very popular

00:57:22.460 sub stack or or or streaming channel but you do not have the right to a stage that belongs to the people of the

00:57:29.580 united states and the broadcast airwaves as i said before are exactly that they are a resource like

00:57:35.340 water or land a set of frequencies you know here's what i want to say about jimmy kimmel or steven

00:57:41.340 colbert for that matter in the podcast lane of course we love it and we've now really made our livings

00:57:47.420 in it i mean we've i've been over this lane for five years and you're in it too so we love it and it's

00:57:52.940 meaningful and it's the future we know that but here's what's so delicious to jimmy kimmel that would that's

00:57:59.180 going to be horrible like his recognizing that that's where he has likely to land next is going

00:58:06.220 to be a fate worse than the worst possible outcomes for him because he thinks he's of abc and disney

00:58:14.780 he's used to going to the theme parks and having his rear end kissed he wants to be at all the right

00:58:20.300 parties and he wants to be the king of television people are on television think television the only

00:58:25.420 even that matters so he's definitely going to suffer which is delicious because he's been the

00:58:31.100 king of enjoying everyone else's cancellation for years for years just to do a quick search for what

00:58:38.540 he said about tucker when he got booted from fox uh for far less controversy than what he just caused

00:58:45.340 listen let's get some realism in here about show business and about network news and so on

00:58:50.140 jimmy kimmel was on his way out trump predicted that he was next after colbert months ago i have a

00:58:58.460 good friend who works in the very small world of late night comedy hosting okay there everyone knew

00:59:05.500 jimmy was not long for this world so what he did was he went on a suicide mission at the last minute

00:59:12.380 he shot his mouth off doing something that would only please the partisans so that he could then pose as a

00:59:18.860 a free speech martyr rather than a sad sack toad of a bad comedian yes that's exactly right and it's

00:59:26.620 like it's amazing to me because people are like speaking of swallow he tweeted out he's a comedian

00:59:33.020 and scott adams responded so was roseanne do cartoonists count because of course scott adams

00:59:38.300 had dilbert pulled from him his comment pulled after he said something too controversial roseanne

00:59:43.260 got fired for a tweet she wasn't even in her lane he was on the air for disney jimmy kimmel was

00:59:50.460 and let's not forget they fired i tweeted this out last night walter they abc the mouse fired chris

00:59:56.380 harrison who hosted the bachelor because a bachelorette was unearthed to have had pictures at an antebellum

01:00:04.940 themed party years ago and he said oh geez shouldn't we judge her by like the the way we were at the time 0.97

01:00:12.220 as opposed to the way we are now they fired him his career never recovered so why wouldn't they get

01:00:17.580 rid of kimmel for this bill maher was fired from his show politically incorrect if i'm not mistaken

01:00:26.060 because he said something about the 9 11 hijackers he said whatever else they were they weren't cowards 0.98

01:00:32.300 because they were willing to die for their cause yeah okay yep he got canned he's got his butt sorry i 0.95

01:00:38.940 almost swore i know we're not allowed no swearing it says right here on my list five hundred dollars 0.99

01:00:44.460 the turning point for every swear that comes out of my mouth uh but they kicked his butt off the air

01:00:49.660 and that's not a swear and he came back because he was talented because he had a loyal fan base and he

01:00:56.300 you know i was on his show a couple of weeks ago jimmy kimmel can land on his feet if he wants but i doubt he will

01:01:02.300 because the the real wonder of it all was that jimmy kimmel lasted on the air for as long as he did

01:01:08.380 he was the most some he had some guardian angel he didn't have to be funny he didn't have to pull

01:01:13.740 ratings he didn't have to speak to half america he was allowed to insult people at will he actually

01:01:19.820 campaigned on stage uh i i just saw a clip this morning of him giving a long talk to republicans in

01:01:27.820 his audience about why they shouldn't vote for trump he wasn't news he was worse than news they

01:01:35.100 used him to do things that news isn't allowed to do like lie yeah exactly so now he's reportedly very

01:01:42.940 angry this is what the the trade rags are saying is that jimmy kimmel is furious that this has happened

01:01:49.740 to him as though he is a passive victim who is really just martyred here because he didn't do

01:01:57.580 anything wrong it was just taken out of context and the mean bad television executives are out to

01:02:04.460 get him and meanwhile i just have to get this out you've got people like on the left like ben stiller

01:02:09.900 and there are many i could pick on but i'm going to pick on ben stiller here who decided to tweet out

01:02:14.620 about this about jimmy kimmel's indefinite suspension this isn't right okay it's not that

01:02:20.860 pointed whatever it's fine this isn't right that's his belief i we went back just to see if he had said

01:02:25.540 anything about charlie nothing he couldn't manage this isn't right about charlie kirk's assassination

01:02:34.080 but he wants us to feel bad for jimmy kimmel walter it makes you wonder about hollywood aren't

01:02:40.980 they in the business of amusing and pleasing the american public apparently not for a long time now

01:02:47.160 they've been curiously not in the business of making money pulling ratings being right making good

01:02:52.960 movies uh and addressing reality in those movies they're often some marvel comic book universe

01:02:59.360 what exactly are they showing solidarity with i i don't understand it do they do they believe they

01:03:07.100 are a guaranteed a future even if they have the wrath of the american people think they're standing

01:03:11.640 up for the first amendment which is so ironic given the way they've been behaving for the past

01:03:16.760 six years they're the ones who backed the biden regime that censored all of us on covid on the

01:03:23.540 hunter biden laptop we could go down the list they were fine with all of that megan i'm i you know you

01:03:29.760 may not agree with this but the public airwaves meaning the broadcast networks which are belong to all

01:03:35.700 of us were bought by the pharmaceutical industry who are 70 percent of advertising they were purchased

01:03:41.580 by them and they were used in their behalf one of jimmy kimmel's bits was to make fun of ivermectin

01:03:49.260 as horse paste and claim that anybody who showed up having used that at an emergency room should be

01:03:54.840 allowed to quote rest in peace i.e die well that drug ivermectin was a present danger to pfizer's vaccine

01:04:03.260 that was coming and a way of treating people when there were no other real ways pre-vaccine 0.95

01:04:09.840 this guy sung for his supper for his masters it wasn't jimmy kimmel speaking when that ugly mouth 0.86

01:04:17.960 opened it was a huge industry that spoke through him and now he's acting like a free speech martyr

01:04:25.540 because that industry is facing the loss of their right to advertise on tv which they've only had since

01:04:31.700 the late 90s and so they're drumming up a big first amendment case so that they can go on buying the

01:04:38.880 and that's how i really feel it's really incredible i mean this is the same group of people

01:04:44.360 who wrote like hakeem jeffries uh the democratic leader in the house actually wrote a letter to fox

01:04:50.080 news demanding that they not let tucker carlson air his special about the j6 event and the actively

01:04:59.200 like that's government actively interfering where it doesn't have any right the fcc actually does have

01:05:04.440 a right and that's the funny thing megan the government which does have a right to intervene

01:05:09.980 with public broadcast networks took that right and extended it into places during covid and during

01:05:17.540 trump the trump era generally where it doesn't belong platforms like twitter facebook and so on

01:05:23.800 cable news etc they tried to be the cops in other people's towns and they succeeded because they

01:05:32.500 intimidated management and they infiltrated it frankly over at twitter i mean you just went

01:05:38.960 went from the fbi to twitter management and that's documented true and and and so now they are facing the

01:05:48.400 worm turning they are facing a public that before charlie's death was already changing in its complexion

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01:08:08.060 months free offer details apply welcome back to the charlie kirk show which goes on just as erica kirk

01:08:22.840 said it would we are all going to help all of us who love charlie will make sure his show goes

01:08:29.180 on his legacy goes on his events go on that one of our most beloved sons is gone but his movement

01:08:37.040 is not gone and it is up to all of us to make sure it thrives i hope you'll all join me in supporting tp usa

01:08:43.540 uh it'll be an honor for us all uh walter where do you think this goes where do you think all this grief

01:08:50.980 and love and the complicated feelings the country's having right now goes well the history of

01:08:59.820 civilization suggests that true martyrs people who die for their beliefs and die when enacting

01:09:07.240 peaceful uh you know strategies they're not in war they're not in bitter conflict those are the most

01:09:14.960 influential people in history i mean the most influential person in western history was one of

01:09:21.940 those um and but but we have many cases uh and i would imagine that for the people who wish to honor

01:09:29.940 him and the people who are touched by him and the people who are just finding out about him there will be

01:09:34.960 a great and deep desire to carry on in his spirit not just in his spirit in terms of politics but in

01:09:44.480 terms i think we've got a bigger situation on our hand we've got a spiritual situation on our hand

01:09:50.300 it's leading to a revival i've got kids who uh i'm not talking about my own kids who i know in their

01:09:57.220 20s young guys sitting around in their apartments drinking beer doing their first jobs who are having

01:10:03.040 deep conversations and texting me hey walter what do you think about this where it says in the bible

01:10:08.860 i i wasn't aware you guys knew there was a bible this is happening in the last week that is a movement

01:10:15.820 of the spirit and america has had revivals that have determined its history several times

01:10:22.200 on the other side in terms of those who are hostile to it i think they look like a bunch of

01:10:29.140 screaming banshees who have been had the lights turned on while they engaged in dark practices

01:10:36.180 and they're exposed i think that this is to some extent out of our hands it's up to us to hold the

01:10:45.460 standards of civil discourse and other values that charlie held dear even dearer than he did

01:10:52.100 he was obviously the threat what he was doing he wasn't a rabble rouser he was a debater and he was

01:10:59.740 a spiritual person and that they identified as the biggest threat which is why they eliminated it

01:11:05.800 that means to me that emulating his behavior is the biggest threat and the most powerful tool and so i

01:11:15.480 think people will pick it up and i think things will change because i think the re-establishment of

01:11:20.820 decency first of all common decency which is all they're trying to do in this abc case but it looks

01:11:27.600 like radical action and they call it fascism now because we haven't observed any common decency for

01:11:32.840 so long in this country it's so true i think things will change for the better i really do megan

01:11:38.860 i cannot they may get intense they may be loud they may be fractious but i don't think that the

01:11:47.880 release of a spirit like his into the public mind with the intensity and the drama around it that

01:11:56.540 surrounds his death can't help but be a good thing yeah and it's in those who don't accept his goodness

01:12:05.800 and let it infuse them with the holy spirit and a renewed drive to stand up for the things we know

01:12:11.540 are true but instead go to the dark place of mocking him or what he stood for god help them

01:12:18.240 god help them because their their future is dark and it's grim and it's depressing unlike what the

01:12:24.780 rest of us are about to do which is going to be uplifting and uniting and could just save this

01:12:30.280 country walter currency i feel invigorated i feel invigorated and i was not someone watching charlie

01:12:36.240 kirk every minute i'm a little bit old for the people he was trying to address but boy i'm not

01:12:41.740 too old now amen thanks for being here really appreciate it we'll talk again soon uh i want to

01:12:48.180 thank say thanks to all the folks here at turning point they've taken such good care of me not just

01:12:52.200 today but over the years and uh encourage all of you to believe in this organization and get behind

01:12:57.620 erica because let me tell you being here i can see it their future is bright these are dark days

01:13:03.120 right now but their future is bright i'm going to say goodbye with the following clip sot 19

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The Megyn Kelly Show - September 18, 2025

Megyn Kelly Hosts The Charlie Kirk Show - On Charlie's Legacy, Kimmel Sidelined, and What Comes Next ｜ Ep. 1152

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