The Megyn Kelly Show - September 26, 2024


Megyn Kelly on Important ＂MAHA＂ Movement, Leftist Pundit's Absurd Spin, and Answering Your Questions ｜ Ep. 898


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In this special episode of The Megyn Kelly Show Live on SiriusXM Channel 111, host Meghan Kelly talks about the American Health and Nutrition Roundtable with Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin) and other prominent health and nutrition activists.

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00:00:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon east.
00:00:12.060 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show in this Thursday a.m. special
00:00:17.160 episode. There's two things in particular I want to get to with you today. No guests, just me.
00:00:22.820 Um, we mentioned it on the show on Wednesday, but did you see any of this hearing that they had in
00:00:30.600 the Senate on Monday? It was called the American health and nutrition, a second opinion round table
00:00:37.440 discussion at the Senate. It was hosted by U S Senator Ron Johnson, Republican from Wisconsin,
00:00:44.900 Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. And it was so eyeopening and alarming. And I really,
00:00:52.580 really, really hope you guys will go back and look at it. It's four hours long. You could watch
00:00:56.940 it on 2.0, but we'll post a link to it in our episode description. I'm going to give you just
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00:02:07.060 below, you know, Dr. Casey means she was on our show a couple of Fridays ago, promoting her book,
00:02:13.260 good energy. And it's an incredible read and it's very upsetting, but also a call to action when it
00:02:20.380 comes to what we're feeding our children and ourselves. She talks about what we're doing to
00:02:25.320 ourselves, you know, mitochondrial damage that we're causing to ourselves and how the entire system is set
00:02:33.080 up to hurt us from the way we shop to the way we farm, to the way we feed kids in school, to the way
00:02:41.520 our doctors treat us, to the way they hook us on medicine and big pharma steps in to keep us hooked
00:02:47.280 forever to how doctors in med school are not educated on how to heal anything, no prevention, no nutrition.
00:02:55.640 It's all about how to treat illnesses that are there with a pill or a scalpel. And the whole system's
00:03:02.120 on its head when it comes to our wellbeing and our health. So RFKJ was there. He was one of sort of
00:03:11.760 the co-hosts, I would say, but it really wasn't about him. He was making good points, but it was
00:03:16.540 really about these activists who have been in this space for a long time sounding the alarm. Here's a
00:03:23.520 soundbite from Casey means doctor, Stanford educated surgeon on what she didn't learn in med school.
00:03:30.720 It's not an overstatement to say that I learned virtually nothing at Stanford medical school
00:03:41.560 about the tens of thousands of scientific papers that elucidate these root causes of why American
00:03:48.640 health is plummeting and how environmental factors are causing it. For instance, in medical school,
00:03:53.580 I did not learn that for each additional serving of ultra processed food, we eat early mortality increases
00:03:59.460 by 18%. This now makes up 67% of the foods our kids are eating. I took zero nutrition courses in medical
00:04:08.240 school. We need a return to common sense and intuition. We need a return to awe for the sheer miraculousness
00:04:20.680 of our lives. We need all hands on deck. Casey's book goes into things like, I mean, truly ultra
00:04:31.460 processed foods being the absolute worst, the absolute worst. They're everywhere. Stay out of
00:04:35.580 the middle of the grocery store. It's the food you put in your pantry or your cupboard. It's not the
00:04:40.520 food around the aisles, you know, on the outskirts of the grocery store that will spoil in a week. If you
00:04:45.760 leave it on the counter, that's the stuff that you should be eating, but you should be eating organic
00:04:50.340 versions of it, organic fruits and vegetables. I know it's expensive, but so is high healthcare,
00:04:56.680 you know, a lot of healthcare needs. And unfortunately the system is set up to make you sick.
00:05:02.060 So it's a must. And she was talking in great detail about, you know, the amount of pesticides
00:05:08.940 that we are putting on our fruits and vegetables in the modern American farm is absolutely horrifying.
00:05:18.700 And that these are carcinogens, they're carcinogens. And we expect them to kill on impact all of these
00:05:26.040 bugs. But with us, it's supposed to be fine. It does absolutely nothing to us. We're some, you know,
00:05:31.620 magical creature that doesn't have any blowback from consuming all of these chemicals.
00:05:36.160 Um, so organic fruits and vegetables, pasture raised organic chicken and eggs, grass fed organic beef
00:05:46.560 and milk to grass fed milk, um, wild caught fish, because the other stuff is filled with a bunch of
00:05:57.260 stuff, not just toxins, but plastics and so on. Um, she talks about exercise and how, if there were a
00:06:04.740 drug that you could take that would reduce your risk of Alzheimer's in half, it would be the number
00:06:13.380 one bestselling drug in all of America. And she writes in the book, there is, it's called walking
00:06:18.980 10,000 steps a day. That's it. Like move, move your body, get a, get a treadmill, get a walking
00:06:26.820 treadmill, uh, uh, a raising raisable desk and a walking treadmill underneath it. So you can get
00:06:33.080 your steps in, challenge yourself, hot and cold therapy. You can just turn your shower to cold at
00:06:38.120 the end of the shower, two minutes, start with 30 seconds, work your way up to 60 and do two. It
00:06:44.400 eventually doesn't hurt hurts in the beginning, but your body needs to be shocked with extreme heat
00:06:51.160 and extreme cold because that's how we used to live, right? Like our ancestors who grew up in
00:06:56.980 the mountains would face 40 degree temperatures overnight and 80 degree temperatures during the
00:07:01.800 day. And we're used to that, not 72 degrees, perfectly comfortable inside a climate controlled
00:07:08.200 living room or office all day. Um, talks about getting back in touch with nature. You heard a little
00:07:13.920 bit of that in her, in her soundbite about how you should be outside for some 15 minutes within the
00:07:22.240 first hour of waking up. You'd be the one to walk your dogs. You'd be the one to go out for get the
00:07:27.400 paper off your driveway. Um, reconnection, connecting with nature through hikes or moonlight star gazes,
00:07:36.760 or yes, feet in the grass and your children too. And sort of reconnect with our connection with one
00:07:45.660 another and how we're all related. You know, we're all part of the same cycle that regenerates
00:07:51.580 generation after generation, both the earth and ourselves. Uh, there's a lot in that book. And there
00:07:57.920 was a lot at that hearing that was really sensible. And also let's be honest, somewhat infuriating
00:08:04.800 when it comes to the incentives that these companies have to keep us sick, that big pharma
00:08:10.220 medicine, big ag, they don't give a damn about the amount of pesticides they're shoving at us. 0.99
00:08:19.100 They just want to make money. They don't give a damn about the ultra processed foods. They're 0.96
00:08:24.260 shoving down our children's faces in school and at the grocery store. They just want to make money.
00:08:31.020 And then the doctors make money on the backend because everyone gets sick because colon cancer
00:08:37.400 rates are going up and pancreatic cancer is striking at younger and younger ages and people
00:08:42.200 are dying, but the system always wins. The system lives on and finds a whole new generation of potential
00:08:48.460 victims. Um, there was a woman who I mentioned on the show. She was great. Her name is Vani Hari
00:08:57.720 and she's a food activist. She was there with a guy named Jason Karp, who's the founder and CEO of
00:09:04.520 human co-brands and co-founder of something called Hugh kitchen. And they got up there to talk about
00:09:12.040 the difference just between Europe and the United States about how the European government does
00:09:17.360 actually have some baseline regulations on what can be in the food supply. We have like none. It's still
00:09:24.180 the wild West here. And she made this example with a few different food types, including fruit loops. 0.67
00:09:30.660 Here's a bit of that. This is the Canadian version. This is the brightness of the Canadian version
00:09:36.840 just for, for visibility. And this is the brightness of artificial food dyes. So of course,
00:09:46.100 Kellogg and other food companies will argue children prefer this over this just as they would prefer
00:09:52.080 cocaine over sugar. That doesn't make it okay. But I think
00:09:56.600 the addiction to sugar, not to mention those food dyes, which are carcinogens, uh, is rampant.
00:10:08.640 You guys know by this point, the story of how these food groups decided that saturated fat was going
00:10:14.440 to be made the bad guy and sugar was going to be added into all our foods. So we got rid of saturated
00:10:19.840 fat. We put sugar in everything. We all got addicted to sugar. Our kids are addicted to sugar.
00:10:24.180 Casey means writes in her book, do you know how much sugar kids actually should be taking in 0.97
00:10:27.900 these little kids? The, the federal guidelines suggested something like 25 grams, zero, zero.
00:10:37.040 I used to really like these Yasso bars. I still like them. I'm not going to lie.
00:10:41.720 Um, they have 18 grams of sugar. That's like the lighter Greek yogurt style ice cream, just on a stick.
00:10:47.840 So your amount you take in is limited. That's not how kids eat ice cream. Most kids have like a big
00:10:54.640 bowl of ice cream. And in a lot of families like my own, we were allowing to happen every night.
00:11:00.860 We were not stopping our kids from having dessert. They're thin. They seem healthy. That's terrible.
00:11:07.640 Like I'm ashamed. We were doing that, that we're not doing that now, but think about it. Like the whole
00:11:13.200 industry is a big shoulder shrug. What did they do in school? Every time somebody has a birthday,
00:11:17.540 there's a treat, there's a cake, there's a cookie. There's something that's both, both highly or
00:11:22.600 ultra processed and sugary to perpetuate your kid's addiction. You go out to dinner, seed oils.
00:11:32.280 They're in everything. We showed you the video a couple of weeks ago of how seed oils are made.
00:11:36.440 It looks like filling up the gas tank in your car. I don't even know what that substance is.
00:11:41.160 It's absolutely disgusting. And it's in everything. Vegetable oil. Sounds so healthy.
00:11:46.620 Olive oil. Yes. Coconut oil. Yes. Avocado oil. Yes. But all these things, try going and eating healthy
00:11:54.380 seeds and nuts in the grocery store. They are healthy seeds and nuts. That's a good snack. Unless
00:12:00.660 you buy the 90% prepackaged kind that are everywhere that say they were roasted in sunflower oil,
00:12:07.980 which they almost all do. Pesto, vegetable oil, sunflower oil, whatever oil. You have to really
00:12:14.640 look to find olive oil as the base. You have to read all the ingredients. It takes a lot of time.
00:12:22.460 Who's got time to learn all these lessons? But these changes could be potentially life-saving.
00:12:27.140 I'm irritated we have to work so hard for it. I want a store that will just offer only healthy
00:12:35.960 foods. And I mean truly healthy. Without the pesticides, without the ultra-processed stuff,
00:12:41.300 without all the sugar, the added sugar. They're not complaining about the sugar that's in a pear.
00:12:47.000 Without drinks like sodas and fruit juice, which is just the devil. There isn't such a thing.
00:12:54.280 And when they tried at this hearing to call attention to these issues, they got laughed at.
00:13:00.840 I talked about the Atlantic article that referred to it as the woo-woo summit. Screw you.
00:13:08.980 That magazine is owned by Lorraine Powell Jobs. Do you think she has to worry about what's on
00:13:16.300 the back of the back of a cereal box? She's got chefs and drivers, and she probably has her own 1.00
00:13:26.060 organic regenerative farm from which she eats all of her own stuff, including beef and so on.
00:13:33.100 She's probably got only the wild-caught salmon brought to her. She doesn't have to worry about
00:13:37.620 this. She has this magazine, The Atlantic, in which one of her writers just shits all over
00:13:45.020 the expertise of doctors from Stanford and Harvard, the best institutions, as just woo-woo. They're nuts.
00:13:54.820 They're crazy. Why? Because the vast majority of advertisers and the mainstream media are controlled
00:14:01.800 by big pharma. The vast majority are controlled. So they have no interest in doing stories that make
00:14:07.280 Pfizer look bad, not to mention Kellogg's. No interest whatsoever. And people like Lorraine
00:14:13.760 Powell Jobs, Steve Jobs' widow, have absolutely none of the same concerns that you or I or people who
00:14:19.860 are working class have in terms of ease and functionality and cost in getting groceries and
00:14:27.560 food into their homes that won't poison themselves. The other thing is the water supply.
00:14:34.100 The fluoride in the vast majority of water, not to mention all of the pollutants, get a water filter,
00:14:41.140 get a Brita. That's actually not that expensive. Get a Brita and just drink through. I haven't been
00:14:45.940 doing it. If you haven't, you're not alone. I hadn't either. I like to consider myself as somebody
00:14:51.740 who's relatively well-informed. Nope. Now we have one. And you can get the kind that goes right
00:14:57.500 in your faucet if you prefer that. You could do just your drinking faucet. But, you know, ideally
00:15:02.500 you'd do the faucet in your bathroom if you pour up a glass of water there before you go to bed or
00:15:08.700 when you wake up. There's a special kind of faucet. I just found out like, I mean, a filter that you
00:15:15.120 can get that like filters all the water that comes into your house. I think it's large and it's probably
00:15:20.480 not cheap. I have not yet asked those questions, but there's options out there to clean up your water
00:15:27.020 supply, not to mention your air supply. I don't have, I don't have an air filter in my house.
00:15:31.520 I don't have one, but I'm going to get one. The amount of plastics that we're breathing
00:15:36.320 and pollution that we're breathing. They actually say it's less polluted outside than inside.
00:15:40.620 We heard that from Casey means all these things we could be changing to improve our wellbeing and that
00:15:46.800 of our children. And we have a government that's fighting against us. We have an industry around
00:15:51.280 every corner that's fighting against us because it's not in their financial interest to have us
00:15:57.640 get better. So it's outrageous. Here was RFKJ talking about how now, of course, everyone is
00:16:04.340 hooked on Ozempic and they're starting to push it for children as young as six. SOT 38.
00:16:13.340 It's not 74% of Americans are obese. The cost of all of them, if they take their Ozempic prescriptions
00:16:22.400 will be $3 trillion a year or half the price of Ozempic, we could purchase regeneratively raised
00:16:30.100 organic agriculture or organic food for every American, three meals a day and gym membership
00:16:38.040 for every obese American. Why are members of Congress doing the bidding of this Danish company 0.65
00:16:43.840 instead of standing up for American farmers and children?
00:16:49.500 Good question. I mean, it certainly serves big ag, the food companies. What they would love us to
00:16:58.040 remain as obese as we are. We're at record levels of obesity right now in this country. They would love
00:17:04.260 that. We're patients forever. And we just buy more food and we sit on our couch and then we go to the
00:17:10.240 big pharma companies and we ask for either Ozempic or somebody who will cure all the health problems
00:17:16.580 that we've caused by eating this way and living this way. That's fantastic for them. They don't
00:17:22.220 give a damn about you or me. That's what Jillian Michaels was trying to say. She was there too,
00:17:28.500 you know, from The Biggest Loser. She's got a great podcast now. She spent her life trying to help 0.87
00:17:33.840 people get in shape, move more, live in a more healthy way. Here she was in SOT 36.
00:17:40.820 In the late 70s and the early 80s, a sinister series of events converged to change food and
00:17:46.980 subsequently health in America indefinitely. A plague that crept like a fog while we slept,
00:17:54.100 literally and figuratively blindly trusting that the powers that be would never betray us. I mean,
00:17:59.980 it seemed unthinkable to question whether a corporation would poison us for profit.
00:18:05.120 The default human condition in the 21st century is obese by design. Specific traceable forms of
00:18:14.120 what's referred to as structural violence are created by the catastrophic quartet of big farming,
00:18:20.700 big food, big pharma, and big insurance. They systematically corrupt every institution
00:18:27.160 of trust, which has led to the global spread of obesity and disease.
00:18:33.180 It's really totally disheartening, but you can do something about it. This Maha thing, 1.00
00:18:40.520 it's for real. That's a movement that will live on no matter who wins this election. Make America
00:18:46.400 healthy again, as Nicole Shanahan was talking about yesterday. That must continue, and you'll
00:18:53.280 hopefully be a part of it. Stop buying these foods. Stop buying the stuff with the food coloring in it.
00:19:01.020 Stay away from the inside of the grocery store aisles. Shop the perimeter. Stop patronizing these
00:19:08.240 companies that are trying to hurt us and start moving your bodies more and sleeping better, right?
00:19:13.980 We had a guy on this show a couple of years ago. He was awesome. I'll get the show number for you,
00:19:20.560 but he talked about how you need to set a sleeping schedule for yourself. Doug and I, we go to bed
00:19:26.180 every night, no later than 10, 10, 15. Obviously, there's a night here or there where that doesn't
00:19:31.840 work, but for the most part, I would say 85% of our lives, that's when we go to bed and we wake up
00:19:37.580 between 6 and 6.30. That's eight hours. Maybe we sleep seven of them. Sometimes we're lucky and we
00:19:44.140 sleep eight of them, but it's not even ... What's really important is that you sleep well, where you
00:19:49.080 get that deep sleep. It was episode 284 with Matt Walker, episode 284 in our archive, but you do have
00:19:57.640 to prioritize your sleep. That's critical to preventing dementia and to living well and give your body and
00:20:05.420 cells a chance to regenerate. Anyway, all these things can be done. Adjusting your sleep schedule,
00:20:10.220 that doesn't take any sort of money. For most people, it just takes the will to be a bit more
00:20:16.940 regulated on your yeses, on your social calendar and so on, and pulling away from television at that
00:20:24.620 hour of night and so on. Anyway, I wanted to bring this to you because it's being so ignored by the
00:20:29.120 mainstream media and that's what they want. F them. F them. We're not going to ignore it. We're going to
00:20:34.240 talk about it. All right. Now I want to shift gears because I've got to talk to you about what
00:20:39.820 happened over on CNN and then subsequently the view in the media because this is just the most
00:20:46.820 ridiculous media story we've seen in a while. It involves a professor at Vanderbilt University
00:20:54.660 named Michael Eric Dyson. He was on CNN. Nancy Mace, Republican representative from the state of
00:21:03.380 South Carolina, was there as well. And they were giving her a hard time because on the show on CNN,
00:21:10.700 she was not pronouncing Kamala correctly. Well, there was a bit of a meltdown because
00:21:17.880 just like Bill Clinton, she wasn't pronouncing it correctly. And that's not allowed, you see.
00:21:25.200 Take a listen to how that went in South 14.
00:21:27.380 When you disrespect Kamala Harris by saying you will call her whatever you want, I know
00:21:33.080 you don't intend it to be that way. That's the history and legacy of white disregard for
00:21:36.960 the humanity of black people. So now you're calling me racist. I didn't say, I just said
00:21:40.100 you weren't a racist. That is complete yes. No, you don't have to intend racism to accomplish.
00:21:43.960 Kamala Harris. So now just hold on to that thought. Okay. First, he lays into her saying that this is
00:22:02.580 part of a history of white disregard for the humanity of black people, white disregard for
00:22:10.500 the humanity of black people. And she says, Oh, now you're calling me racist. No, I didn't say
00:22:16.500 you don't have to intend. He says, you don't have to intend racism in order to say something racist
00:22:23.800 in order to be racist. You don't have to intend it. Intent is irrelevant. They've been saying this
00:22:29.540 a lot in the past few years. Part of the whole DEI initiative. Your intent is irrelevant. Your
00:22:34.800 statements either are or are not racist. Your behavior either is or is not racist. And what he says,
00:22:39.940 her behavior is, is that she's part of a history and legacy of white disregard for the humanity 1.00
00:22:46.420 of black people. Now you tell me, was she being accused of racism or not? Hello. It's very obvious.
00:22:54.580 And I don't blame her for being irritated, uh, which she was. So I don't know if it was a day or two
00:23:03.280 after that, Nancy Mace finds herself back at her real job, which is in Congress. And previously in
00:23:09.460 this hearing, okay, it was a month later, previously in this hearing, we're going to play
00:23:12.900 you a soundbite from a Democrat decided to go off on people who are not pronouncing Kamala Harris's
00:23:19.560 name correctly. Same old thing. It's racist about sex or whatever it is. And Nancy Mace came up later 1.00
00:23:26.420 in the congressional hearing and tried to rebut some of those claims that were being made. And here is
00:23:34.240 what she did in part in South 13. I would like to also enter into the record, a screenshot of a text
00:23:42.760 message I received from the esteemed professor from Vanderbilt, Michael Eric Dyson, after my CNN
00:23:49.200 interview begged me for photos in this text. He says, after calling me a racist on CNN, don't tell
00:23:57.720 anybody we look good together and sent me a kissy emoji without a guy. The guy says I'm gorgeous.
00:24:04.280 And all these photos, I don't think he's that been out of shape on how anyone pronounces
00:24:08.100 Kamala. Uh, and if we're going to have that standard, you got to hold it to both sides,
00:24:12.580 not just one or the one or the other. That last comment was a reference to, she went through
00:24:17.960 all the Democrats who mispronounced Kamala's name. It's not just a Republican thing. It's an unusual
00:24:23.740 name and people take time to get used to it. And people even who are her fans mispronounce it. So
00:24:29.840 just shut up. They're constantly looking for some reason to play the race card. We've seen that for
00:24:35.600 years. We all know it. So whatever. So she enters into the record that Michael Eric Dyson sent her
00:24:43.540 flirty texts after he called her suggested she was a racist on CNN. And she enters into the 1.00
00:24:51.620 congressional record a picture of the two of them backstage, uh, at CNN. We would later learn in which
00:24:57.960 he comments on how good they look together and her gorgeousness, which I gotta be honest. I thought
00:25:05.900 was kind of funny. I don't blame her. If she's, if she's a racist, if she's somebody who says racist
00:25:11.780 things, why would you pose for a nice picture, all smiles and be so complimentary of her behind the 1.00
00:25:17.800 scenes as soon as the cameras, the TV cameras are off? Why would you do that? Well, Michael Eric Dyson,
00:25:23.720 who is on wife number three, decided to try to explain why he did that in an Instagram post,
00:25:33.320 which is frankly somewhat bizarre. Saw 12. I ain't tried to hit on this woman on no day. These are other
00:25:42.940 people that I interacted with recently, my friends, some of them, uh, my friend, Alison, uh, I said,
00:25:49.280 nice, you look gorgeous. Then there is my friend, Terry, who I was giving tickets to for the democratic
00:25:56.980 national convention. You look gorgeous as always. Then my colleague, Lisa at Vanderbilt. And I said,
00:26:05.080 me and miss gorgeous. And then councilwoman, Mary, uh, Sheffield, I said, gorgeous and brilliant leader, 0.95
00:26:16.040 uh, to Dana bash. Well, I congratulated her on the interview she did with Kamala Harris. Besides being
00:26:23.660 brilliant and courageous, you also look gorgeous. And then I put, um, uh, a power hand and a smiley,
00:26:33.200 uh, uh, a face with, with, with hearts. I ain't hitting on Nancy Mace. I often acknowledge
00:26:39.640 people's gorgeousness and men's too by everybody. So my point is that this is a woman trying to 1.00
00:26:46.720 exploit a situation. I have not dated white women. Not that that's a problem. And let me correct one
00:26:53.840 thing. I did say that night. I said, you're a wonderful woman. Let me correct myself. You are a
00:26:59.660 racist. You are a racially charged, um, small minded, bigoted person. I've told, I've read other
00:27:07.520 exchanges with people where I've called them gorgeous. And if you're that desperate that you
00:27:12.000 need a black man to holler at you, I'm not the one to do it. There are plenty on your side who can do
00:27:18.220 that, ma'am, but you've got the wrong brother in me. Once again, he plays the race card. And what
00:27:26.020 kind of a weird defense, I call every woman, not my wife, gorgeous and going through the long list
00:27:31.960 of the women. And I told her she's gorgeous and she's gorgeous and she's gorgeous. I have a little
00:27:37.460 piece of a free advice for you, Michael pro tip, stop telling women, not your wife, how gorgeous they
00:27:45.380 are. It tends to lead a woman to think you might be interested in her. It's a weird thing to say
00:27:51.540 that word in particular to a bunch of women who are not your wife. Honestly, like that's just weird. 0.85
00:27:59.160 If Nancy Mace were posing like with her husband and you said gorgeous couple, that's fine. 0.99
00:28:05.040 You're both gorgeous. I can get on board with that. Your gorgeousness and shh, don't tell anybody,
00:28:13.400 but we look good together. There are very few women on earth who would not perceive that as a,
00:28:19.160 come on. It goes back to intent. Michael, you may not have intended it as a, come on to Nancy Mace,
00:28:26.620 but that is how it was received. And therefore you're guilty. These are your rules. We're just
00:28:32.500 playing by them. So then this guy has the gall to go on the view, which quickly laundered the whole
00:28:42.100 situation into once again, he's the victim and it's racial watch.
00:28:49.560 So because we live in the crazy year of 2024, she then later accused you of sending her flirty
00:28:55.040 texts, which she entered into the congressional record. Can you clear this up for us, professor?
00:28:59.560 I'm a preacher. So I know sin, my own and others, right? Nobody's perfect. I'm a professor. I've seen
00:29:06.140 things evolve over space and time. What you could say 20 years ago, can't say today. Not because you're
00:29:11.460 suddenly wrong, but the temper of the times has changed. So if you acknowledge a woman's beauty, 0.99
00:29:16.380 that is a power imbalance, there's a problem there. But peer to peer, a different story. Still
00:29:21.480 cautious, but different. So when it comes to Nancy Mace, you see, I tried to be nice to the woman.
00:29:27.400 I said, you're a wonderful woman. I lied. I then said, but, but I tried to be nice to her. And then
00:29:35.120 even when I pointed out to her, what the repetition of the misnaming of Kamala Harris would do,
00:29:42.000 she got defensive. Oh, you're calling me a racist. No. And you never did. I was watching.
00:29:46.080 It never did. I think Shakespeare said the lady duff protests too much. So the point is 0.95
00:29:50.520 that, that this woman has now depended upon, like her inspiration, Donald Trump, a racist trope. 0.98
00:29:57.880 The black brute seeks the innocent white woman. And now I'll say one final thing to all of these 1.00
00:30:03.900 white Christians. And she's one of them. The Bible says, if my people who are called by my name
00:30:09.240 will humble themselves and pray and turn their face to God and turn away from their wicked ways,
00:30:15.640 then I will hear from heaven. And then I will forgive their sins and I will heal the land.
00:30:20.820 They have not forgiven themselves. White Christians hate themselves for the past wrongs that have been 0.93
00:30:27.200 done. And I'm here as a loving Christian to say, let's grapple with that past.
00:30:31.060 Oh my God. There's so much to go over. So the question is tossed to him, right? Like what
00:30:37.440 happened? Clear up what happened immediately. What does he do? He goes into religion. I'm a preacher.
00:30:42.920 I know sin, my own and others. Now, you know, you know, from Phil Houston's by the lie. One of the
00:30:48.240 things that liars do is invoke religion right away, right away. They invoke religion. It's a dodge.
00:30:55.440 It's an attempt to convince you they're a good person. The truth is not his ally. So he ran from
00:31:02.280 it. I mean, this is just classic, classic deception. He goes on, blah, blah, blah. I tried
00:31:07.980 to be nice to the woman. I said, you're a wonderful woman. I lied, but I tried to be nice. So he's on the
00:31:13.400 attack right now. He's got to attack her and goes on again. Then he tries to say, she said, oh,
00:31:19.960 you're calling me a racist. No. And Alyssa Farag Griffin chimes in and you never did. I was
00:31:25.940 watching. Well, it's true. He never uttered the words you are a racist, but he did say that her
00:31:33.460 refusal to pronounce Kamala's name correctly was part of a history and legacy of white disregard for
00:31:38.600 the humanity of black people. And when she said, you're basically calling me a racist, he said,
00:31:43.480 you don't have to intend racism to actually be doing it. That's calling someone racist, sir.
00:31:50.900 I don't blame Nancy Mace for receiving that message from you because that is what you were saying.
00:31:57.540 That is exactly what you were saying, that it's racist for her not to properly pronounce 0.98
00:32:03.380 Kamala's name. Then she goes into, and then he goes into this ridiculous. Okay. Now this woman, 0.58
00:32:11.900 just like her inspiration, Donald Trump, she uses a racist trope. The black brute seeks the innocent 0.98
00:32:21.620 white woman. And then you've got whoopee chiming in. That's right. Okay. She used racist trope to 1.00
00:32:28.500 attack me. The black brute seeks the innocent white woman. That's what he says she was doing by 0.98
00:32:35.660 releasing the text messages. You're just upset. You got caught. That's why you're upset. She wasn't
00:32:43.840 trying to make you look like a black brute seeking the innocent white woman. She was calling into 0.99
00:32:50.420 question your sincerity in suggesting she was a racist. If you really thought that you would not
00:32:57.780 be hitting on her in her DMS right after the show. And you know, professor at Vanderbilt, 0.99
00:33:04.540 that that's exactly what she was doing because you don't seem like a dumb man.
00:33:09.000 You once again, play the race card to excuse your own bad behavior. Maybe you do really text
00:33:18.100 10,000 women in a year about how gorgeous they are. That's a failing, sir. That's a failing. 1.00
00:33:25.300 And when it comes back to bite you in the ass, you should just say, I'm sorry. That's it.
00:33:31.880 You don't have to try to attack her again, once again, saying she's racist. And there wasn't one
00:33:38.380 sane person on the set of the view. I know you're shocked to actually speak honestly about what
00:33:47.440 happened and about what he did, how he attacked her. And then he came onto her and then he played
00:33:54.960 the race card and the victim, and then was allowed to repeat the cycle on the set of ABC news, which
00:34:01.800 is no longer in the news business. It is in the business of doing one thing, and that is getting
00:34:06.860 Kamala Harris elected and doing anything they can to make Trump or his supporters look bad.
00:34:12.800 Would love your feedback. Taking your emails, Megan at Megan Kelly.com. When we come back,
00:34:19.180 I'm actually going to take some of your questions that have been sent to that very email address.
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00:35:27.500 Now we're doing a feature we call Asked and Answered, where I answer your questions and address
00:35:31.640 your thoughts about the show or topics in the news. Anything you want, you can email me,
00:35:35.760 Megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com. Or you can just go to megankelly.com now and they'll prompt you
00:35:44.040 on how to sign up. Okay. I've got my executive producer, Steve Krakauer here, who's been going
00:35:48.940 through the mailbag, which I do read. Meg Storm runs our website and she pulls the emails for me and
00:35:56.180 collates them and puts them and I get them every week. So all those people saying, I know you don't
00:36:01.660 read this because we say, I do too. Yes, I do. I read as many of them as I can. And that's a lot.
00:36:08.420 I would say I read most of them. Steve, what do we have this week? Yeah, Megan, I read them. I read
00:36:13.720 them too. A lot of great emails. Keep them coming. Megan at megankelly.com. Love the comments, but also
00:36:18.340 questions. You know, we're going to be doing these questions now every week. So questions, we love those.
00:36:22.560 We'll try to answer them. And the first question comes from Lily, who wants to know, what does Trump
00:36:27.440 publicly saying? I hate Taylor Swift, as he did on Truth Social Achieve, except to make himself look
00:36:33.600 childish and petty. She says Trump needs to publicly say, despite how I feel about Taylor Swift, keep in
00:36:39.040 mind that voting for Kamala means you want to continue runaway inflation and increasing crime and open
00:36:43.860 borders. That's her prescription. What do you think? That doesn't sound like Donald Trump to me.
00:36:49.920 I thought it was perfectly on brand for Trump. And honestly, I know that it caused a lot of
00:36:55.500 consternation. It didn't bother me. I mean, as somebody who came out that night and said,
00:36:59.440 screw you, Taylor Swift. I was like, I'm not, I'm running a glass house here. I realize I'm not
00:37:04.260 running for president and he is, but I don't think that hurt him. I think he's trying to telegraph
00:37:10.200 to people. She's bad. You shouldn't like her either. And there may be some people who are like,
00:37:15.900 you know what? I'm kind of sick of her too. You know how it's like when one person says it,
00:37:19.500 then you're like, you know, I don't really like her either. And then one thing happens after another.
00:37:23.880 Look, there was just a poll out. What was it, Steve? Was it, uh, the CNN poll or the Quinnipiac?
00:37:29.660 Uh, Quinnipiac. Yeah. Yeah. Quinnipiac showed, uh, that Taylor Swift's endorsement hurt more than
00:37:39.080 helped Kamala Harris. More people are likely not to vote for her in the wake of the endorsement.
00:37:46.860 So you could argue it was actually smart of Trump to attack her and just telegraph to
00:37:52.940 the MAGA faithful or adjacent who hadn't heard about the endorsement that Taylor sucks. We don't
00:37:59.320 like Taylor. That's him like saying she's on the outs now. I don't, I just think so often, Steve,
00:38:05.280 people are quick to judge Trump's marketing brand and branding instincts. And that is the one area
00:38:13.100 where you really shouldn't question him. Yeah. Genius there. Absolutely. All right. Here's another one.
00:38:18.780 And this is from Maria. Uh, Maria wants to know, I'm a 32 year old right-leaning libertarian. She
00:38:23.440 says, my family and friends are split on politics. She said, I don't feel the need to push my agenda
00:38:27.500 as I'm pretty much middle of the road. But sometimes I hear people who are planning to vote
00:38:31.180 and I don't understand why that's happening, why they're voting a certain way. She says,
00:38:35.420 how would you approach conversations with them?
00:38:37.180 I mean, I like to ask questions, right? Like that's my job, but I also think it's a great way
00:38:44.160 of really finding out where somebody stands and really listen to the answers and ask follow-up
00:38:50.280 questions. And if you're not looking to change their worldview, you might be illuminated and more
00:38:55.720 forgiving of them. You know, I mean, I know a lot of my friends are like very, very, very pro-choice.
00:39:01.440 They are not going to vote for the Republicans period. Okay. I get it. I mean, I, I have a
00:39:08.560 different set of priorities, but that doesn't mean I think they're bad people for having their set.
00:39:14.340 And maybe it could cause a settlement of sorts between the two of you, or maybe it's an issue
00:39:19.560 on which you're really well-educated and you could gently ask questions that kind of probe, well,
00:39:25.640 you know, like take the trans issue. Do you know like what the, what the puberty blockers into
00:39:30.720 cross-sex hormones do? And I'm really worried about sterilizing minors who can't even get a 1.00
00:39:35.960 tattoo. You know, it's like, to me that seems, and you can say it in a way that's not confrontational.
00:39:40.800 It's not judgmental, right? It's just, you're just sticking to your own belief system if you feel
00:39:46.800 the need to get into it at all. But that's how I would do it. I think just the number one thing
00:39:51.320 though, is not to bring your judgment into it. If you genuinely want to just hear how they feel,
00:39:55.060 don't bring your judgment in. If you are trying to persuade all the more reasons to just keep
00:39:59.060 asking questions and gently start introducing the things that make you feel differently and hear
00:40:05.940 how they overcome them, if at all. But I mean, as a, as a rule, when I'm in my personal life and I'm
00:40:12.220 with people who are not of my political persuasion, I don't talk politics.
00:40:16.940 Right. Right. Yeah. And I have to say, we live in very messy and complicated times. I was at a wedding
00:40:22.020 over the weekend and my uncle is not a fan of many of the ways that the topics are covered on the show.
00:40:27.840 And yet he loves Nicole Shanahan. And so, and I said, Oh, Nicole's coming on next week. I was like,
00:40:31.580 Oh, that's great. Love her. Um, so that's so cool. There's, there's always some common ground
00:40:36.060 as, as Kamala Harris might say, there's a Venn diagram in which we overlap.
00:40:40.220 That's right. Nicole, right in the middle. Uh, okay. Uh, last one, something fun. This is from
00:40:44.680 Erin. She's a mom of three teens in Ontario. She says, thank you for your balanced and courageous
00:40:48.900 mama bear, like news coverage. But then she says, this may sound trite, but I would love to know
00:40:52.900 the shade and brand of your most frequent lip color. I get this question a lot. Okay. More often
00:41:00.840 than not, it is not a lipstick. It is a lip liner. It's my favorite lip liner. I wear it almost every
00:41:09.420 day. And then I'll either put just like some clear lip gloss or, you know, lip balm on over it. Not every
00:41:17.460 day, but a lot of days. And I have it here. It is made by Mac and it, the color is Dervish Dervish.
00:41:30.440 And I love it. It's neutral. It's like this kind of doesn't look neutral. I can, I don't know if you
00:41:35.460 can see that put it in front of my pasty skin so you can see it looks, maybe I'll put it like here.
00:41:39.580 Can you see? It might look not neutral, but it is kind of neutral. It's like slightly pink,
00:41:48.700 maybe a little mauve, but on your lips, it's pretty benign. And I like that because it'll kind
00:41:55.560 of go with anything. And, um, I like sort of coloring in the lips, you know, with it. I don't
00:42:01.440 just do it as a liner. I put on the liner and then I put a little bit in the middle and then I just do
00:42:05.520 the, you know, where you smack your lips together and then you just put on like your favorite lip
00:42:10.240 balm over it. Or if I'm feeling saucy, then I'll add, you know, an actual lip gloss over it. And
00:42:17.140 I've got a bunch of different ones. We can, we can get into the, the saucy days another time. I will
00:42:21.740 say I have one right here. This is not what I would put over. Like this is this one. I actually got it in
00:42:26.500 the Bahamas first and that now it's kind of hard to find, but it's by reunited, reunited. And I like
00:42:36.340 it cause it's, I wear this like sometimes when I have white on or like tan, cause it's this pretty
00:42:41.800 brown. I'll put it on now. You can see what it does. It's got a little sparkle. All right. For the
00:42:47.480 listening audience, I am putting it on and you can see it's got like a little, little sparkle. So if you're
00:42:53.540 like looking to call a little attention, maybe the eyes are kind of not as made up, you could get
00:42:58.760 away with that, but I really like that too. So those are my two makeup tips for today, but I'm
00:43:04.920 not getting any money for these endorsements. So, you know, they're real. Nice. Aaron will appreciate
00:43:12.220 that. Thank you. Yes. That's right. Enjoy Aaron. I'll see you at the Mac store. All right. All right.
00:43:19.240 So that's it, right? That's it for, that's our first edition of the mailbag. We're not going to do a
00:43:23.120 ton of them because we don't want to annoy you, but, um, we thought we'd pick some that might be
00:43:26.860 representative of like when we get a lot on one subject and those were, so you guys keep the emails
00:43:32.500 coming, the questions to Megan. It's spelled M E G Y N at Megan Kelly.com. All right. One last thing
00:43:40.060 before we go, it is time for another edition of you can't say that it's a franchise on the show that
00:43:45.180 we decided to bring back where we highlight something that you cannot say or do or think in
00:43:52.840 2024. Like you cannot say Kamala. You cannot say that. You can't say Kamala. Kamala is a hard no.
00:44:03.420 Okay. They, this is so important. They give us a full lesson at the DNC involving children and songs
00:44:08.680 and you just don't do it or you're going to wind up getting weird sex from Michael Eric Dyson. Okay.
00:44:15.700 That's not all though. Today we're actually looking at the case of Zach Bryan, the superstar country music
00:44:21.180 singer who made the enormous mistake. This is very dumb Zach of having a few too many drinks one night
00:44:27.080 getting on Twitter now known as X and letting the world know that he actually enjoys Kanye or yay
00:44:32.200 West's music more than Taylor Swift's nerve that sexist pig. Yes. The offending post was sent late
00:44:42.100 on Tuesday night, September 17th, when he praised his favorite football team, the Eagles and said that
00:44:48.300 they were greater than the Kansas city chiefs, the team. Taylor's boyfriend, Travis Kelsey plays for
00:44:54.140 and he followed that up with another equation in which he wrote Kanye. And then the greater than
00:45:01.160 symbol, you know, like the little carrot, Kanye greater than Taylor. Oh, M G. He followed that up
00:45:09.520 with who's with me. Well, Zach, the internet is not with you because you apparently are not allowed
00:45:16.120 to make negative comments about Taylor Swift. Well, guess what internet? We do it here all the time.
00:45:22.180 For those who are not familiar with the backstory, Taylor Swift and Kanye have been feuding for more
00:45:26.460 than 15 years. Uh, after the rapper crashed the stage as Swift accepted a VMA award in 2009. And he
00:45:34.060 said she shouldn't have won and Beyonce should have won. And that was rude, but some people are not over
00:45:38.760 it. There's been a whole back and forth between them. But the key factor to keep in mind is that
00:45:42.820 Kanye West wore a MAGA hat and has some more recent questionable views when it comes to Jews
00:45:48.820 and Taylor Swift endorsed Kamala Harris because she is such a fan of Tim Walz's LGBTQ policy. She
00:45:56.980 loves to trans the children. That's Taylor. So how dare you, Zach? You're supposed to be on Taylor's 0.51
00:46:03.580 side. You're supposed to be on Kamala Harris's side. And if you're not, you should have the good
00:46:06.800 nature instincts to keep it to yourself. Well, Zach learned this lesson right away as the Swifties 0.99
00:46:13.100 came for him in short order. The next morning, the country singer tweeted, guys, I love Taylor and
00:46:19.500 followed up with, if anyone took it serious, please know I love both artists a lot and think we're in a
00:46:25.520 really beautiful time of music. Not good enough, Zach. The hate continued and he deactivated his
00:46:33.020 X account. Oh my God. I miss the real men. I'm sorry, Zach, but I miss real men.
00:46:40.260 But he did not deactivate in time. You see, before he did it, he issued a profuse apology
00:46:45.620 on his Instagram page, spread over four, count them, four lengthy Instagram stories.
00:46:53.820 Brian poured his heart out, apparently hoping to stop the Swifty mob from their hideous attacks. 1.00
00:47:00.360 Look at this one. I wasn't coming for Taylor the other night. I was drunkenly comparing two
00:47:05.780 records and it came out wrong. I know there's a lot of stuff that clouds around yay. And I was
00:47:11.080 speaking purely musically. I love Taylor's music and pray you guys know I'm human and tweet stupid
00:47:18.720 things often. Hope one day I can explain this to her. Twitter gets me in trouble too much. And I'd say
00:47:25.160 it's best I stay off of it. I'm sorry to any Taylor fans I pissed off or let down. Love you guys. And
00:47:32.500 I'm trying my best. Oh my God. I have secondhand embarrassment. Bring back our men. That wasn't it.
00:47:39.720 He wasn't done. He continued. It just came off as rude and desensitized to Taylor.
00:47:46.060 I respect her so much as a musician that the last thing I want is people thinking I don't
00:47:53.320 appreciate and love what she has done as a musician, he wrote before closing it out with
00:47:57.940 don't drink and tweet. Oh my God. I'm sorry, Zach Brian. Where are your balls? Mankind would like to
00:48:07.320 know. That's the lesson, Zach. Don't drink and tweet. Sure. Here's another. If you're thinking of
00:48:13.660 daring to say that you prefer someone else's, especially somebody who's endorsed Trump music
00:48:19.700 more than Taylor Swift's, well, you can't say that. Oh wait, this is America. Thanks for joining
00:48:27.480 me today and every day. Talk to you the next time. Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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