Megyn Kelly on Massive Title IX Victory, Terrible NYC Advice Column, and Tips For Dems Freaking Out About Trump ｜ Ep. 946
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This week on The Megynkel show, Meghan opens up about the tragic death of her daughter, Alana, and how she and her family are coping with the loss. Plus, President Trump wins a Supreme Court case that could change the landscape of women s sports in America forever.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to this special AM episode.
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It's an extra, and we've got some good stuff for you today.
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A couple topics I want to get to, and we're also going to answer a bit of your mail.
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We've got a ton, ton, ton, especially viewers who want to know,
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how do they speak to their Harris supporting children or relatives or friends who are completely
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in the doldrums right now about her loss. And there are lovely people out there who are looking
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to get past this and have a relationship and make people they care about feel better. And we can talk
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First, we had great news in the fight to get boys out of girls sports this week, in addition to
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President Trump winning, which is going to really, really help. But there was a massive
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legal ruling on a story that we've been watching and following very closely here at the MK show
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since we were a baby, since we launched back in September of 2020. So as you know, I live in
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Connecticut now and September 2020, I still live in New York, but we were moving here. And this story
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was making national news. There were runners, young female runners in the public schools in Connecticut
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who had been saddled with boys running against them in track and field. And these brave young women
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stood up to say, this is not fair. They're taking our medals, our first place finishes.
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They're taking our scholarships and we can't win against them. This is totally unfair. And they
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ultimately filed a lawsuit with the help of the, of Alliance Defending Freedom. Love ADF. If you want
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to give money to support a group, that's a great one. Um, and they bumped right into this absolute
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douche bag of a judge. This guy is a jerk. He's on the U S district court in Connecticut. And his name
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is judge Robert Chadigny, C H A T I G N Y, a bill Clinton appointee. Now in the spring of 2021,
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we had on the girls and they told us firsthand why they were suing. And it's for all the reasons I just
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discussed. And then their lawsuit moved through the process. They came back on in, um, 2023,
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their lawsuit at that point had been dismissed by this jerk. And they were seeking an appeal with
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the second circuit court of appeals, which is a federal court of appeals right underneath the U S
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Supreme court. You know, they're all across the nation and that's the last stop before you get to
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the U S Supreme court. And they outlined some of the reasons why, again, that they were involved in
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this lawsuit to begin with. We chose a soundbite from that episode because by that point we had
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video and you might want to see them. It's episode five 67. And here are Chelsea Mitchell and Alana
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Smith. So my sophomore year, actually Terry raced on the boys team in the indoor season. And then in the
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outdoor season switched to the girls team. Terry was blowing us girls out of the water. I mean,
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I remember at the state open championship and everyone by like over half a second, um,
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to the, um, second biological male. And then the, me and the other female finishers were after them,
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but, um, the, both of them just blew us out of the water consistently. Yeah. It was so frustrating
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because I know, I mean, I used to spend hours, um, a day at track practice just to shave off. I mean,
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tens of a second hundreds of a second tracks, the sport were just like a little bit of time off is
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huge. And it was just so frustrating to line up and just feel like I was racing for second place.
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And even if I was trying my hardest, I knew that I wasn't going to get the top spot. And then just
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to know that me and the other girls were, we would do, we didn't have a level playing field.
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This is so annoying. They had to race against these boys posing as girls because it's the
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Connecticut state policy. Connecticut, along with some almost two dozen states have a policy that
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requires you to be able to race in the sport and in the league that aligns with your gender identity,
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as opposed to biological sex, which is a blatant violation of title nine. It is a violation of
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girls equal protection rights. All of this is going to get reversed. It's going to get reversed
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thanks to Trump and thanks to the courts and thanks to this U S Supreme court. So these girls filed a
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lawsuit trying to say all of that. And this jerk judge rejected the lawsuit, threw it out. And let me
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just give you a little color about this guy's ruling, which came down in April of 2021, right around
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the time when they first came on the show. Alliance defending freedom came out and said that this
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judge would not allow them as the lawyers for these two girls to refer to the biological boys as
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biological boys. The judge required them to call the biological boys females, which the lawyers made the
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point that obscures the entire issue that has brought us into court here, your honor. The whole
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question is, should biological boys be allowed to play in girls sports? And here are all the reasons why
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they shouldn't. It completely muddies the waters to say, should females be allowed to compete against
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females in girls sports? And this is something we've been talking about in this show is for a long time,
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as you know, which is they try to control the language to already win the argument. If you
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cede the language, you've already lost the argument, especially on this issue. And therefore you must
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fight over the language, including pronouns, even if it makes you feel impolite. If you don't,
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you're hashtag part of the problem. And this judge was hashtag part of the problem. He dismissed their
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case. So they appealed up to the second circuit. And when you first appeal, you get a three judge
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panel from the court of appeals. That panel ruled against the girls again, but the girls were not
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done. And Alliance Defending Freedom was not done. They appealed to the second circuit on bonk, which
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means the entire second circuit, all of the judges who otherwise would make up random three judge panels,
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all of them hear the case. And they agreed to take it. And guess what happened? They reversed.
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They won. The girls won in front of the second circuit court of appeals, which is huge. And then it went
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back down as it must to this judge Chadigny, the guy who had originally dismissed the lawsuit. I mean,
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I just want you to know, this is so egregious. This wasn't not that it makes a difference,
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whether the boys are on testosterone suppressing hormones. It doesn't make a difference. These
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boys had been through male puberty. If you're listening to us, go look at, go look at our
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youtube.com slash Megan Kelly. You will see these are boys who have been through boy puberty. They are
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very well-developed. They look like boys. They're strong, like boys, their legs, their muscles are
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they're boys. Um, and listen to this extra bit of color from one of the girls who was forced to race
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against them. Listen, were there any requirements, you know, in your state that you know of, um, that
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they, that they, you know, take, that they reduce their testosterone, that they do something to reduce
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the biological advantage as, as if we could get rid of all of them, but at least on the testosterone
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front, Chelsea, no, the, the CIC policy was pretty much just, if you identify as a girl, then you can
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run on the girls team. There was no policy that you had to lower testosterone or anything.
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So these two boys were racing as boys in the previous season, the year before and had done
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nothing, nothing, nothing again, not that it would make the difference, but I guess you could make
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the case. It would be better than running with your full testosterone and full male advantage as
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they were. And the Connecticut policy is that's, that's fine. You're good. The girls need to compete
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against that. That's fair. So race after race, these girls saw just the glorious joy of winning
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slip away from them as an impossibility. As they looked down at the start and saw two boys getting
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ready to win though, they gave it their all. So it goes back to this judge and what happened last week
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was reading here from just the news, a chastened judge Chattagny switched his stance and ruled that
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the amended complaint did plausibly allege disparate treatment under the law based on the female
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athlete's sex saying the defendants are indeed potentially liable for discrimination under title
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nine and that the plaintiffs may be indeed able to recover damages, including attorney's fees and costs,
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depending on what happens in the course of discovery here. Listen to this. Unlike in 2021,
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the judge's ruling is replete with references to biological sex. He even twice used the phrase
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biological males, which years earlier he had deemed needlessly provocative in this case. How about
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that? The girls are asking for these nominal damage. They're not looking to get rich off of this. They just
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want this policy changed and declared unlawful. And they also want more than 40 state and local
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race track records revised, removing the names of the two transgender athletes from their winning
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places and replacing them with the names of the female athletes who also competed, but did not win.
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It's justice. This judge was forced. He's been brought to heel by the second circuit court of appeals in a very
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liberal court. Everybody. This is like the ninth circuit almost that said, you cannot do this.
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This is huge. And this judge was brought to heel, to acknowledge there is such a thing as a biological
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male. And that is the language you must use in weighing the relative rights in this situation.
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So FU Connecticut and FU Judge Chattagny, who only was forced to come around to reason and FU to these
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boys who tried to run as girls and they knew it was unfair. And to the school that didn't create an
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open category and say, run there. There's two of you can run against each other. Um, this is just so
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wrong on every level. And, and here's another piece of it. You need to know.
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So this case got started under the Trump administration. Number one, the first,
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the first Trump administration and the department of education was on the side of the girls
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and filed a brief through the DOJ, the D the department of education and the DOJ were on the
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side of the girls and filed in support of the girls saying you have violated title nine Connecticut.
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This is not okay. And then we had a switch in administrations. Biden came in, Miguel Cardona
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came in and they withdrew all of the government support. The DOJ was out. The DOE was out and they
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actually took the other side of this issue. So these girls were left alone with God bless Alliance
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Defending Freedom to pursue this case in court, which they did. But as you can see, it was an uphill
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battle. And I'm sure it was an expensive battle. Another reason to donate to Alliance Defending
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Freedom. Um, and now, I mean, even before Trump gets back in office, but now they've won,
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they haven't won the whole case. They now have to, they get a trial now and they get to make their
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case and that's, that's all they're entitled to. And that's great. They weren't kicked out just based
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on the papers by this judge saying, Hey, Connecticut law says it's too bad. You have to suck it up.
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So now they get to go forward. And now thanks to Trump coming back in office, he will make the
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necessary revisions to vital to Biden's title nine changes. He'll reverse them. And he will send his
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DOJ and his department of education in to support the girls like these who need help against woke
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schools, systems, States, and judges who want to tell them referring to these kids as biological males
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is needlessly provocative. And you must lose just based on language alone. This is great. This is all
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going our way. This is before Trump gets in. We got a big ruling out of the second circuit back down
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to this judge who's been humbled and hobbled. And that's, what's going to happen to all of you judges
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who continue to rule the wrong way. And you know, what's even more beautiful will be when one of these
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left wing courts, like the ninth circuit or what have you rules the other way. And it goes up to the
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Supreme court. Oh, I hope it goes up to the Supreme court because this court will rule in our favor.
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I realized that judge Gorsuch cast the deciding vote saying you can't discriminate in the workplace
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setting against trans people. But he made sure to point out in that opinion that it did not apply to
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girls sports. That was a separate issue. That was not before the court. We have not lost on that issue
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before the highest court in the land. And we won't, we will not lose on that issue. I would love to see
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that go up ASAP. So it's great. We're, we're winning ladies and gentlemen, we're winning the side
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of reason. The normies are restoring order, fairness, safety, and justice right on second circuit, right on.
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Okay. Um, there are still a lot of very abnormal, strange people out there. And that leads me to a
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woman, a writer named Emily gold, who writes for New York magazine and it's publication called the
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cut. Now you may remember this woman. I believe we talked about her piece when it came out, um, about
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the lure of divorce in February of 2024, seven years into my marriage. She wrote at the time,
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I hit a breaking point and had to decide whether life would be better without my husband in it.
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In this piece, she goes through, this is the old one. I'm going to get to the new one in a sec.
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She goes through how, um, in the summer of 2022, she lost her mind, her words first. She thought
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she was just overwhelmed because life had become difficult. And then it became clear. It was more
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than that to cope with the stress. I asked my psychiatrist, she writes to increase the dosage of
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the antidepressant I'd been on for years. Sometime around then I started talking too fast and drinking
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a lot. Drinking felt necessary. She goes on to say she would drink with breakfast, lunch, and dinner
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some days, which she would eat at restaurants. So the drink order didn't seem too unusual.
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Who doesn't have an Aperol spritz on the way home from the gym in the morning? I became convinced too
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that my marriage was over and had been over for years. I spent money like it was water, never budgeting,
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leaving my husband to make sure we made rent every month. She writes about how they had their last
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fight. After a long day spent at a wedding upstate, I'd been drinking spiked lemonade at lunch alone,
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then boxed wine during the wedding reception where I couldn't eat any of the food because it all
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contained wheat and I have celiac disease. Perfect. Of course. Okay. So she's drinking too much.
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She's of course allergic to wheat and she has celiac disease. She's depressed and on antidepressants
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and she's got a psychiatrist. These are the things we've learned about her so far. Um, she tells her
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husband it's over, really over the definitive moment I'd been waiting for. I had a concrete reason
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to leave because her husband, I guess, wasn't paying her enough attention and was giving her some
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hassle about her finances. My therapist and my psychiatrist. Okay. So it's more than just the
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psychiatrist. Both urged me in no uncertain terms to check myself into a psychiatric hospital.
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It's not going well here for Emily therapist, psychiatrist, marriage and disarray, drinking
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breakfast, lunch, and dinner on an antidepressant had to increase the dose. Um, celiac disease is yet
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another alleged problem. And then they started her on lithium right away in a meeting with my team
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of psychiatrists. Now it's a team. They broke the news. I had bipolar disorder. They weren't sure which
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kind. And into the inpatient psychiatric facility. She went where she insisted that her mother and her
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husband were not allowed to visit her. Instead, at some point she got out and she decided to do
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couples therapy with the husband. So now we've had a psychiatric institution, a team of psychiatrists,
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a therapist, an antidepressant, alcohol, morning, noon, and night, uh, celiac disease, cutting off
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the mother, cutting off the husband, and then a re-entry by the husband in couples therapy.
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Um, my husband would have to forgive me for cheating. Oh yeah, I forgot. She cheated. She,
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she cheated on him. Um, he would have to forgive her for doing that and for wasting our money. And I would
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have to forgive him for treading on my literary territory, uh, our family's life, my own life. He would
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have to forgive me for having a mental breakdown, leaving him to take care of our family, etc. And I would
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have to forgive him for taking for granted that I would be available on a sick, sick day or to do an early
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pickup or watch the baby while he wrote about our other child. Okay. This, I, I read all that because
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you need to know who Emily Gould is before I tell you the following fact. She is now an advice
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columnist for, for New York magazine. Oh God. This is the same way they make all the kids write about
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their severe traumas and adverse childhood experiences and how effed up they are in order to admit them into
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the Ivy leagues. You write your admissions essay about what a well-adjusted kid you are, what a
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loving family you have that's taught you to love yourself and America and be open-minded to different
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points of view. You're out. You can forget it, but I guarantee you lithium, inpatient cheating, SSRIs
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and celiac disease. You'll sail right in. Welcome to Yale. So Emily is now doing advice columns
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at the cut. And that leads me to this particular piece of advice. The headline is my daughter's New
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York city public school teacher supports Trump. There's the big reveal. Of course, everybody who
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reads New York magazine has the same reaction, which is, Oh my God. Oh, go on. We understand where this is
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going. Dear Emily, you tell me who's crazier, the writer or Emily. I'm struggling with how to respond to a
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recent incident at my daughter's New York city public school. She said her ninth grade English teacher
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made all the students in the class watch Trump's acceptance speech. Ah, what? The next president of the
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United States, you say they forced the children to lay eyes on him and ears to, and not just that, but take notes
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on his values and then ask them to pay particular attention to how positively the crowd responded during his
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speech. I, I mean, how soon can we fire her? What? They had to watch the next president take notes on the values he
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was expressing and to pay attention to how the crowd responded. I mean, what have we come to in this
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country? I was waiting for, for more. Like what? Then did she say how right he was, how unfairly he's been
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character. No, that's it. I've completed now the list of offenses that this teacher committed. Though the
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teacher did not say anything directly about how she voted. My daughter said she's a known Trumper. And so I can
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only assume her attention assuming was in some way to promote his ideas, promote or just explore, just
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present because there's a difference present and to call their attention to the fact that as the results
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have made clear, there are millions of people who do support him. Perhaps we'd spend a minute
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seeing why, what is it he's saying and how are they reacting? That is not promotion, madam. It's
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presentation and an airing that most of these students will never get. Trust me. I was in the
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New York city schools. I was there in those privates. Um, when my daughter and many of the other students
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voiced their objections and said, they found this exercise upsetting. It's upsetting. The teacher said
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it was her lesson and she would teach the class the way she wanted. They had to do it. One brave
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student got up and left the room to go to the principal's office and was not required to go
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back to class. Of course, the principal was like, you stay here, sweetheart. That is traumatic. Hold
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me, hold me. Uh, at 14, my daughter is old enough to be politically aware and was excited by the
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possibility of electing our first female president. She was extremely sad that Kamala lost. Of course,
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as a family, we share her views. I wish the teacher had given the students the space
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and time to decompress after such a divisive election. No matter how the kids felt about
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the outcome, I'm not totally sure how to tell my daughter she needs to respect and listen to this
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teacher after she acted with so little empathy toward her own students, the way she made them look
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at and listen to Trump. What do I do now in terms of talking to my daughter about how to tough out the
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rest of the year in this teacher's class? Or if I can make myself take on having the conversation
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of talking to the school. I just don't know if I'm ready. I don't know if I'm ready for this.
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I don't know. I can't talk about Trump and this incident signed. Can't believe I have to deal
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with this right now. I'm going through enough. I've got to shave off my hair, get my big glasses,
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post on the internet, find my chastity belt, get the abortion pill. I got, I've got enough to deal
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with Emily. Now, do you think Emily responded, dear, can't believe I have to deal with this right
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now? You and your daughter need to toughen up. Diverse viewpoints are what make the world go
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round. Your teacher didn't push a particular POV on the students. She just introduced them to their
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next president and let them hear from him directly before he takes the oath of office. You should show
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them controversial Trump videos if that's what you want them to know, or Kamala Harris videos if you
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want them to see what they missed out on. But the answer is not to stifle any discussion of politics.
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or the news in class. That's not how it went, folks. Emily responded, waking up to the news last
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Wednesday that Trump won the election was brutal enough already. I know as a parent, it was difficult
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for me to go through the motions, to answer my kids' questions, to get through drop-off without
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bursting into tears once or twice. I mean, it might've been the lithium, Emily. I don't, I just,
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you should call your team. I'm so sorry your daughter had to deal with this added burden.
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From what I've heard from parents with school-aged kids, most teachers handled the situation with
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appropriateness and grace. They set aside class time for kids to discuss their feelings
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in a non-confrontational, non-partisan way. Too bad this isn't what happened for your daughter.
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It's also the school's fault. And if you can't find the energy to take it up with them, I think
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you definitely should. Basically, we need you. We need you. Can't believe we do.
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Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. When you're strong enough, go to the administration and calmly, factually lay out
00:26:31.400
exactly what you think the teacher did that was inappropriate. Be ready to counter them by asking
00:26:36.120
you how you'd feel if Kamala Harris had won and your daughter's English teacher had taken class time
00:26:40.760
to let the students watch her victory speech. Don't you let yourself get sidetracked though.
00:26:45.500
But the fact that this comparison isn't just apples and oranges, it is apples and convicted felons.
00:26:51.820
That's literally in the piece. I'm quoting. It's not apples and oranges. He is an orange,
00:26:57.540
but he's a convicted felon orange. That's the relevant point. Instead, calmly point out that
00:27:04.180
this teacher didn't just have the students watch the speech. She made them take notes on his values.
00:27:11.060
Got news for you, Emily and unnamed mother. That could be his values suck. He's saying things about
00:27:18.640
immigrants I don't agree with. He seems to be against me on the trans issue. Whatever the values
00:27:23.580
are that you've definitely instilled in these children in the New York City system, he could be
00:27:28.420
opposed to them. And you might actually hear that when you hear him speak. How is telling the students
00:27:33.200
to take notes on his values in any way an indoctrination attempt? And she goes on, the teacher
00:27:39.260
drew attention to the positive crowd reaction. Frankly, in New York City schools, that was probably an
00:27:45.740
attempt by this teacher to show how many of them are also Nazis. Honestly, it could easily be going
00:27:52.980
the other way. You can draw nothing from any of this. Or it could be a teacher who's more fair and
00:27:59.360
balanced trying to let the students know half the country does love him. See how they react? That's
00:28:04.580
how we got Trump. When everyone around you is saying, how did he win? You can say, well, he's got a lot of
00:28:10.580
supporters. I saw how they clapped. This is not indoctrination. It is education. Fine. Does it
00:28:16.940
need to happen in English class? I'm with you on that. Probably not. It's a current events thing
00:28:21.820
or a government thing, maybe social studies. I'll give you that point, which comes up next in her
00:28:27.100
response. Then she goes on. But by the way, can I just say something on that? Because it actually
00:28:33.740
does, like she says in here, none of this has anything to do with teaching English. It all amounts to
00:28:38.640
what I'd consider to be a breach of trust. I mean, this is very rich coming from the math is racist
00:28:44.700
crowd. Remember all the videos we've seen of students at MIT standing up to protest the Palestinian
00:28:49.780
thing and all the memes about how two plus two doesn't equal four. And if you think it does,
00:28:54.500
you're racist. I mean, DEI and this nonsense has made its way into every single class our kids take,
00:29:01.880
PE, art, song, you name it. And in English classes across America, both at the high school level,
00:29:08.640
and in college, they are pulling anything written by a white man out because DEI must rule
00:29:15.000
everything. So if you're going to stick your political agenda into every class other than
00:29:19.300
current events, be prepared when some rogue teacher decides to counterbalance it with one
00:29:25.400
night of watching a Trump speech. Anyway, she goes on to say the following.
00:29:31.460
Now it's on the administration to find a way to reestablish trust between these teachers and
00:29:38.340
the students. If this teacher goes on to assign essays about how Trump is making America great
00:29:43.560
again, for example, your daughter's within her rights to refuse, refuse to do the assignment.
00:29:49.040
And of course, if she and her fellow students are comfortable doing so, they are well within the
00:29:52.440
rights to take their grievances to the administrations themselves. Take a moment here
00:29:57.140
to congratulate yourself on being a good parent. Just like you, Emily, with all the lithium and the
00:30:04.380
SSRIs and the inpatient stuff and all the boozing and the cheating. Okay. I mean, all right. It's a
00:30:09.540
sliding scale. Then use that confidence to gather the strength and momentum you will need to get through
00:30:15.920
the next four years. Um, the lunatic left is alive and well, and really grappling with what to do in
00:30:25.520
the wake of this election. I don't, I don't think they're going to get over their TDS. And I don't
00:30:32.200
think New York Magazine or any of the people who read it are reachable. I don't, I think they're the
00:30:38.120
reason we're seeing pics like Matt Gaetz and Pete Hegseth and people who upset them for various posts
00:30:47.120
because Trump and his team are done giving two Fs about how they react. They're not gettable.
00:30:55.300
They're not reasonable. They really just have to be brought to heel like that judge. They must simply
00:31:01.720
be defeated. And if I were a Democrat trying to revive my party, I truly would just ostracize them.
00:31:08.820
Alienate them, like disown them in the way Republicans have diminished the Lincoln project
00:31:15.740
and these other never Trumpers as really having nothing to do with them. That's their only way,
00:31:20.340
like Emily. Yeah. She's not gettable, not with reason, not with lectures by Jim Carville about how
00:31:28.440
wokeism need to go. Um, these people need psychiatric help, maybe a different kind than she's getting.
00:31:35.300
And really, frankly, to like rethink the way they're approaching life, like get outside more,
00:31:42.820
um, maybe stop the alcohol and all that stuff. And the wheat problem might clear up, um, consider
00:31:50.920
changing your media diet. That's probably number one to lower your stress and open your mind and,
00:31:57.880
um, keep on trucking because I think, you know, while there might not be political reconciliation
00:32:04.100
for you, there could be a world in which you don't get institutionalized regularly. So good luck.
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Now we bring you another edition of Thanks But No Thanks, where we say thanks but no thanks to a
00:34:26.820
story bubbling up in the news. Today we're going to talk about a wholesome new movie that hits theaters
00:34:31.420
next week called Wicked, a movie adaptation of the popular musical featuring Ariana Grande and
00:34:38.100
Cynthia Arribo. It is a twist on the Wizard of Oz story focused on the two witches at the center of
00:34:45.480
it all. Take a look at a little bit of the trailer. The wonderful Wizard of Oz summons you to the
00:34:52.540
Emerald City. Come with me. What? To beat the wizard. Why couldn't you tell me this is your moment? I'm coming.
00:34:58.580
See, it's just a sweet little film for the whole family. A PG rating, nice, innocent entertainment.
00:35:10.400
And they've been promoting this thing like crazy, of course, for a Disney movie. I mean,
00:35:13.920
you got to have your dolls. And Disney partnered with Mattel for Barbie-like characters, which you
00:35:19.800
can see Grande and Erivo enjoying in a video they posted from July. It's perfect.
00:35:28.580
So fun. Surely these product tie-ins will be hugely popular with the young impressionable fans
00:35:49.060
of the film as we approach the holiday season. But you see, there's just one problem. The front
00:35:56.060
of the package, as it turns out. $25 for this thing, by the way, looks totally normal. But on the
00:36:02.540
back, there's a website at the bottom for you to find out more about the movie, www.wicked.com,
00:36:11.080
it says. But Wicked.com does not bring you to Disney's website for the film. Oh, no. It brings
00:36:17.680
you to the website of the pornographic movie company, Wicked Pictures.
00:36:26.660
For research purposes only, our executive producer, Steve Krakauer, was forced to go there
00:36:31.600
last night. And what you will find is not Ariana Grande, but films like Sunny Gold Melons and
00:36:40.400
Kenzie Loves Girls 2, splashed on the front page for little girls across America to go check out.
00:36:49.680
To get to the film website, you need to go to www.wickedmovie.com. Well, this is a huge mess.
00:37:00.460
On Sunday, Mattel was forced to issue a statement. Quote, Mattel was made aware of a misprint
00:37:06.360
on the packaging of the Mattel Wicked collection dolls, primarily sold in the U.S. It said,
00:37:12.120
we deeply regret this unfortunate error and are taking immediate action to remedy this.
00:37:18.480
Parents are advised that the misprinted, incorrect website is not appropriate for children.
00:37:24.680
Yeah, no shit, Mattel. You see, Wicked.com has all sorts of movies on it that seem like Disney films,
00:37:33.480
but I assure you, they are not. You should not share these with your children.
00:37:38.740
We asked our guests yesterday, the fellas from Ruthless, for their favorites behind the scenes.
00:37:43.440
Holmes liked Cinderella XXX, while Duncan liked more of the new stuff and Captain Marvel's XXX.
00:37:50.880
Ashbrook went with Snow White XXX. You sensing a theme here that the guys found appealing?
00:37:56.420
These are all real movie titles that are being made available to your children if they click on this
00:38:01.080
website. Smug picked Operation Desert Stormy starring Stormy Daniels, of course, one of the
00:38:10.260
dozens of movies you can find at Wicked.com featuring the star of the New York Business Records trial
00:38:15.240
against Trump earlier this year. Okay, I'm kidding. We didn't actually ask the Ruthless guys for their
00:38:19.620
picks. I had you, though. Apparently, a lot of people are getting confused by the packaging
00:38:25.780
mishap because, according to Variety, website traffic to the Wicked Porn Company is at its
00:38:31.520
highest level in 12 years. The power of Mattel. So go enjoy the movie, if you would like, with your
00:38:41.140
kids. And buy the dolls, if you like. You can find them at Target or Kohl's. But at the Megyn Kelly
00:38:46.400
show, where we keep things very wholesome, unlike those perverts over at Ruthless, we're saying
00:38:51.300
thanks, but no thanks, to the URL on the back of the Wicked box. Okay, before we go, I'm going to
00:38:58.500
answer some of your questions. Let's hope they're PG-13. And you can submit them to Megan, M-E-G-Y-N
00:39:08.740
at megankelly.com. I read them all. Now I'm joined by my executive producer, Steve Krakauer, who wrote
00:39:14.340
that bit. Steve Krakauer, well done, my friend. Well done.
00:39:17.520
I really hope that Google understands that sometimes I have to do research that I'm not
00:39:23.760
interested in. I have to look up weird movies, and it's part of my job. I'm not interested in that.
00:39:28.920
I hope your wife Megan understands. Forget Google.
00:39:32.020
I need to clear my search history, just in general, with this job.
00:39:35.980
Well, you know, I just realized this. I just realized that, you know, when you go on Twitter
00:39:39.500
and people write the word pornographic, if they're writing about a story, and they put
00:39:44.060
like a number, the number zero instead of an O for porner, they misspell it. I just now realized
00:39:50.480
they do this so that the algorithm doesn't think they want those things served up to them.
00:40:01.140
That's good advice. Okay. Well, I'll have to learn that for next time. But right now it's too,
00:40:05.340
it's too late. Okay. We've got some great questions.
00:40:07.940
That one was very funny, Steve. I have to say it very well. How do you find these stories? I mean,
00:40:12.300
really like, it's a good, how do you find this one? I mean, the amount of promotion that they're
00:40:16.560
doing for this wicked movie is, is everywhere. I, I, they're, they're, uh, and, and so the story
00:40:20.480
is in a lot of places. I mean, this is a, this is a huge problem. These dolls are everywhere.
00:40:24.660
Wicked.com. Do not, do not go there. We would not suggest that.
00:40:29.000
We are not looking to promote the website. Okay. So, but we are looking to promote our viewer mail
00:40:33.280
and we apparently got a ton of it, uh, over the past week, which I received a huge download. So Meg
00:40:38.620
Storm will call through a lot of them and she sends me a huge download every Monday. And I
00:40:42.220
love reading them. You know, what I do is I put them, everybody knows I love voice stream,
00:40:45.800
put them, I download them on voice stream and then voice stream reads all the emails to me,
00:40:49.940
which I love, but you've pulled some where people are actually looking for, uh, advice or an answer.
00:40:56.000
Yeah. And these, these first two are similar to a lot of emails. We got hundreds that fit in
00:41:01.300
this general category. So one is from Ellen who says, how do I talk to my 20 year old niece
00:41:06.220
who believes that the world has just ended, which is an important one to know. And then Rebecca
00:41:11.020
says, how do we move forward with our fellow Americans that are Kamala Harris voters?
00:41:17.380
Well, those are, you know, similar, similar answers to both of those questions. I mean,
00:41:22.340
I really think like, look, if I were trying to make my friends who are liberal feel better about
00:41:29.020
Trump, I would say we've had four years of Trump before we moved on and the Democrats were back in
00:41:36.180
power. And if you look at the history of our country, that's how this will go to more than
00:41:40.500
likely Trump will do a bunch of controversial things that Republicans love. And then if history
00:41:44.940
is any guide, the Democrats will vote Democrats back into power in the house or the Senate in the
00:41:50.020
midterm elections. And the Dems will reclaim one of those bodies and we'll be able to thwart Trump's
00:41:55.920
legislation right now. They don't have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate.
00:42:01.000
So the Democrats can thwart major Trump legislation that they feel is too right at this very moment.
00:42:09.760
So they haven't, the Republicans won, but they didn't win enough to really, you know,
00:42:13.600
push through all their favorites. And they only have a four seat majority in the house. So all
00:42:18.040
that's good news to Democrats who want to see Trump stopped the executive order game that was on for
00:42:24.060
real. And it will make an impact, especially when it comes to immigration. But look, Trump issued a
00:42:29.520
bunch of executive orders on immigration. Biden undid them all and had a massive impact on places
00:42:34.260
like the border. And Trump's now going to try to reinstitute them. And then it will flip back the
00:42:38.520
other way. If again, history is any guide because the Democrats could win the white house in four
00:42:42.660
years. So it's like, you just need to calm down. We have these four year terms in the white house for
00:42:47.760
a reason. We only have two year terms in the house. So it really does allow one side to regain power
00:42:53.160
and also like take a deep breath and realize a lot of what you've been told about Trump
00:42:59.740
is by crazy media people who just loathe him. Like turn off MSNBC, turn off CNN, tell them every
00:43:08.880
morning in their leftist. So tell them to do what I do. Listen to NPR and their little up first,
00:43:15.160
you know, 15 minute broadcast, which is totally insufferable. I cannot stand it more than anything.
00:43:21.060
I hate their stupid, weird music. I hate the way it makes me feel like it resonates something deep
00:43:27.420
in my soul that is very jarring the way like you'd feel if a serial killer came into your bedroom and
00:43:32.680
that's something. I hate it. Okay. But I listened to it because I want to know what the left is
00:43:38.300
saying and spinning and then go get a broadcast like ours or like morning wire on the other side
00:43:44.040
that will offer a more fair and balanced view of the news. And that way you can prevent yourself
00:43:50.360
from being totally indoctrinated and rattled by news about Trump. But during the Trump presidency,
00:43:56.240
the last thing these people should do is just consume a diet of MS or CNN or even the mainstream.
00:44:02.700
It's only going to lead to more stress and consternation.
00:44:07.720
Good advice. I hope they take that. We've got a long road ahead here, but it should be fun.
00:44:12.220
It'll be fun to cover. We got a lot of questions also about your appearance last week at the Trump
00:44:17.620
rally. Jane says, flawless job at the rally, persuasive, smart, and well delivered. And then
00:44:22.980
she wants to know, what did Trump whisper to you when the two of you hugged at the end?
00:44:28.600
I don't remember specifically. I think he said something like, great job. Thank you.
00:44:33.960
He was very, very nice. He and I spoke beforehand behind the scenes when I greeted him there. And
00:44:38.800
that was really nice. We caught up. He was very, very happy with my appearance on Bill Maher,
00:44:43.540
which I think I told you. And was saying all sorts of really, really nice stuff. You know,
00:44:49.220
he and I are in a good place. And so I enjoyed that. And, you know, after the actual speech,
00:44:55.260
it was just pleasantries and then goodbye. So it was a thrill being up there. It was great to see him.
00:44:59.820
And it was just, you know, so much better to the next night, watch the returns come in and see that
00:45:04.820
man over the top and restored to power in a way that's going to make profound difference in the
00:45:09.780
country. That's great. All right. Last one. A little fun here. Tracy says you make a lot of
00:45:14.900
movie references and you do. That is definitely true. When do you have time to watch movies?
00:45:19.740
And what is your favorite movie? Well, you'll notice most of them are from the, you know,
00:45:25.040
seventies, eighties, nineties, and early aughts. Like I, I used to have a life. Now I just,
00:45:28.940
now I just consume news in almost all my waking hours. We all do. It's a sickness. Honestly,
00:45:33.460
if you could see the amount of time, I've got a question for you, Steve. Like when you get your
00:45:38.300
little notification from your phone about how many hours you've spent online on an average daily
00:45:42.900
basis, do you get that thing? What is it normally? Uh, well, I should just say, I have to be on my
00:45:50.220
phone for the show because it's, I can't, so it's, that's three hours a day right there. Uh, it's about
00:45:56.440
nine hours. Yep. Same. Mine is like at least 10, 10 hours. You average 10 hours a day because I'm
00:46:04.180
constantly listening to you on podcast, or I, I download so many news articles on voice stream
00:46:08.160
and I have them read to me, or you can go to national review online. They already have the
00:46:11.100
press play to have their articles read to you, which all of them should have. I wish all of them
00:46:15.460
would do it. The New York times does it. Wall Street journal does it anyway. Uh, or you're on
00:46:20.100
Twitter, you know, it's like, or we're all texting, you know, we have our producers text chain
00:46:23.580
where we're all exchanging news. Like it's a full-time job. So I don't really have a lot of time for
00:46:28.340
movies these days, but I do watch some Netflix. I'll tell you what we watched lately. I mean,
00:46:33.100
I, all I did was watch TV growing up. I really didn't study. I didn't do that well in school.
00:46:37.160
I had some friends, but we just watched it. I was seventies. My mom paid no attention to me.
00:46:41.280
So I watched TV and ate a lot of McDonald's. Um, so now we watched some Netflix. Doug and I just
00:46:47.760
watched, uh, it came out a couple of years ago, escape at Dannemora, which is about those two
00:46:54.240
prisoners who use that prison guard up in Northern New York to help them break out of prison. And then
00:47:01.300
they went on a whole wild goose chase with the cops. Very after this was over, Doug spoke to Sarah,
00:47:08.940
my hairstylist who she comes in the morning three days a week. And he said, Sarah, we're going to
00:47:13.340
have to have a talk about curating our list that you recommend such that it, it doesn't have so many
00:47:20.320
unattractive characters. And it certainly doesn't have them finding carnal knowledge of one another
00:47:26.000
so frequently in the film. It was, I mean, very, they were, I guess they were made to look
00:47:31.860
unattractive because Patricia Arquette is not that unattractive. And, um, it was so jarring. I did not
00:47:38.220
need to see. It was like that, that wicked.com website, the scenes I saw in there, uh, putting
00:47:45.040
that aside. It was interesting to watch that, watch that movie. And I enjoyed that when, when it's
00:47:50.520
available, we watched that show severance, which I really liked also by the same director, by the
00:47:55.980
way, Ben Stiller, who I can't stand his politics, but I'm enjoying his output. I'm not going to lie.
00:48:00.920
Escape at Dan Amor was a little slow as eight episodes could have been done in four. Um,
00:48:05.380
God, I don't know what else. Oh, we watched the Martha Stewart documentary. Steve, have you seen this?
00:48:11.260
I haven't seen it yet. I know. I'm, I hear more and more people watching it.
00:48:14.380
It's really good. I was, I had no idea. Like all the stories about her. She, she's pretty frank
00:48:22.540
about her poibles. She had an affair on her first husband, which she, it's, it's amazing. She's like
00:48:28.160
her, her first husband, she says cheated on her with this woman. She brought on their property as
00:48:32.960
she puts it in the film. I, I gave him a snack, provided a snack for him on my own property.
00:48:38.500
But she apparently cheated on him first, but there's a scene in which she's like,
00:48:43.120
I guess I'm just a swan. I'm a swan who mates for life. And then he betrayed me. And the producers
00:48:49.200
are like, well, you, you cheated with that Irish guy. And she's like, what, what? And she admits it.
00:48:55.260
Like, well, so, so you're not a swan. Anyway, I loved it, but we don't have a lot of time. Long
00:49:01.100
winded answer to tell you, I don't have a lot of time for TV. If you've gotten any recommendations
00:49:04.860
though, I'm taking them. Megan at megankelly.com. All right. We'll gather them for next week.
00:49:11.300
I'll pass them along. Cool. Cool. Thank you, Steve Krakauer. And, um,
00:49:15.280
good luck to you and your algorithm on your Google feed. Um, okay. So thanks to Steve. And thanks to
00:49:22.240
all of you for joining us today. We are back, um, on Monday with Glenn Greenwald. He's back.
00:49:28.880
Glenn is not out. Glenn is in and he will be on the show Monday for reals. See you then.
00:49:34.960
Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.