The Megyn Kelly Show - Megyn Kelly on the Meltdown and Hypocrisy at CBS News Over Coates Interview and ＂60 Minutes＂ Edits ｜ Ep. 912

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00:01:41.380 We brought you the story last week about CBS host Tony DaCopal's challenging interview with author

00:01:48.920 Ta-Nehisi Coates, who's one of those pillars of the liberal elite that you're supposed to only praise

00:01:53.740 and never ever question. Well, there have been some crazy updates to the story this week. And before we

00:02:00.800 get to that, we've got to talk about what happened with the 60 Minutes interview that we went through in

00:02:05.480 great detail on Tuesday. It turns out we should have been even more attentive to what 60 had done to

00:02:14.460 that interview. It was very obviously edited, but we didn't quite put it together that they had edited

00:02:20.280 the answer they put out as their tease on Sunday and Monday by the time the piece aired on Monday night.

00:02:30.220 And it was a pretty shocking scrubbing of a word salad answer by Kamala Harris. So here's what I think

00:02:38.700 happened. They put out this Q&A, just like a quick Q&A about whether Netanyahu's listening to us. And they

00:02:47.540 included in their tease her word salad answer, or at least part of it. And they, because they're liberals, don't see

00:02:56.620 her answers as word salad. They're like, yeah, that's our girl. Look at her. She's saying tough

00:03:02.640 things. And, and no one realized that this was going to make her look bad because they would not

00:03:09.340 have released it this way. Had they done that? Had they realized that? Well, then the internet went crazy

00:03:17.020 over this clip because she sounds terrible for this audience. It's the common terribleness. It's the stuff

00:03:23.980 you've heard a million times. She's so wordy. She takes 50 words to say what could be said in five. 1.00

00:03:30.280 It's the typical annoying Kamala Harris stuff. So by the time they aired the interview in full

00:03:36.300 on Monday night, they had cleaned up the answer. They had pulled a much shorter, tighter, but still

00:03:43.400 inane phrase from a different part of her answer. And they whitewashed the word salad and sort of got

00:03:52.900 rid of all the word salad and boiled it down to like one green pepper. It's no longer a salad.

00:03:59.400 It was just one green pepper, which you could understand and eat easily. Um, so there is a

00:04:04.900 Twitter account, Maze Moore, that put together the answer that CBS put out as part of its tease

00:04:12.200 next to the answer that aired in the actual 60 minutes piece. And the, you know, the, the toss is

00:04:19.620 about Netanyahu watch. But it seems that, uh, prime minister Netanyahu is not listening. Well, Bill,

00:04:28.760 the work that we have done has resulted in a number of movements in that region by Israel that were

00:04:39.760 very much prompted by, or a result of many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen

00:04:49.040 in the region. But it seems that, uh, prime minister Netanyahu is not listening. We're not going to stop

00:04:55.120 pursuing what is necessary for the United States to be clear about where we stand on the need

00:05:00.520 for this war to end. Oh my God. I mean, you see what they did, don't you? It's so nakedly partisan

00:05:09.420 and desperate to save her. That first answer is just classic Kamala Harris, isn't it? The,

00:05:17.000 the work that we have done has resulted in movements. What I'm already lost. Even the answer

00:05:24.900 she gave was somewhat classic Kamala, but the first one was beyond. And so this is, this is CBS running

00:05:33.400 cover for Kamala Harris. I'm amazed they had the guts to do it given that they had released the

00:05:39.300 tease. Normally you'd have a discussion behind closed doors saying, well, now we've got to live

00:05:44.740 with it. We put it out as the tease guys. We're going to get hit if we clean it up and try to make

00:05:50.140 look better. We've already released the real answer. Uh, but nobody did that. And, um, now we

00:05:57.820 know, but I mean like that, that first answer, the work that we have done has resulted in a number of

00:06:04.920 movements, but already, right, right. By Israel that were very much prompted by, or a result of 0.74

00:06:12.420 many things, including our advocacy for what needs to happen in the region. It's so bad. It's particularly

00:06:22.400 bad. I mean, at least 10 clauses in there in what should have been a one clause answer. So they're

00:06:31.040 getting hit by that, but only by the right on line. And it's kind of a fun story to enjoy. So now the

00:06:37.460 other controversy is the meltdown that's happening inside this very unbiased, truly journalistic

00:06:46.680 outlet. When it comes to this interview we discussed last week on the CBS morning show,

00:06:53.180 which is hosted by three people, Gail King and two other guys, including the guy we're about to show

00:06:59.300 you, Tony de Coppola, whose last name I didn't even know until this. Um, and some other guy whose name

00:07:05.820 I still don't know. So they had on Ta-Nehisi Coates, right? He's like a Kendi type. They all 0.79

00:07:13.280 love him on the left. If you criticize him, you're going to get it because he must be praised because

00:07:18.340 he literally wrote the case for reparations. And he really, really, really wants people like the two

00:07:26.080 white guys on the set to be paying reparations to people like him. Um, notwithstanding the fact that 0.55

00:07:32.240 they may not have been here. Their ancestors may not have been here when any of the slavery went

00:07:36.420 down. None of that's irrelevant to people like Ta-Nehisi Coates, Ta-Nehisi, whatever. Um,

00:07:42.800 so he wrote this book. He decided to meander over into the Israeli Palestinian conflict because what

00:07:49.980 we really needed was his take. You'll be shocked to learn. He reduced it to skin color, shocked to

00:07:55.320 learn. It's about colonialism for him. So he wrote this piece, which he has absolutely no knowledge of

00:08:01.240 or expertise in this region. Who would have the hubris to try to write a book on this region?

00:08:06.900 That's a Johnny come lately to it. I mean, that's just so absurd, but he's so used to universal praise.

00:08:13.400 He's like, sure, I'll put this in perspective for you. Um, it's about Israel being the bad guy by now 0.99

00:08:19.920 I'll sell, you know, number one on the bestseller list. I'll for sure. I'll make the times. So he put

00:08:24.580 that out. He admits it's an entirely one-sided view of the conflict. He admits it. So he shows

00:08:32.920 up in the CBS morning show. We showed you some of this before, but I'm going to show it to you just

00:08:36.520 to set up what's since happened. So you can see what has caused an all out meltdown inside of CBS

00:08:43.520 news involving the very top executives involving Sherry Redstone, the owner of CBS Viacom. Um,

00:08:51.460 it's not done now. We've gotten a very unfortunate update in it today involving the anchor himself.

00:08:59.460 I'm going to walk you through it, but here is the thing that set it all off in the original

00:09:04.900 exchange in part between coats and this anchor, Tony. I have to say when I, when I read the book,

00:09:11.140 I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the

00:09:17.440 book, the publishing house goes away. The content of that section would not be out of place in the

00:09:23.080 backpack of an extremist. Why leave out that Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it?

00:09:28.480 Why not detail anything of the first and the second intifada, the cafe bombings, the bus bombings,

00:09:33.980 the little kids blown to bits? And is it because you just don't believe that Israel in any condition

00:09:40.640 has a right to exist? Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined, um, there is

00:09:45.860 no shortage of that perspective in American media. I have asked repeatedly in my interviews whether

00:09:51.060 there is a single network mainstream organization in America with a Palestinian American bureau chief

00:09:57.520 or correspondent who actually has a voice to articulate their part of the world. Um,

00:10:02.420 I've been a reporter for 20 years. Um, the reporters of those who believe more sympathetically

00:10:07.900 about Israel, um, and its right to exist don't have a problem getting their voice out.

00:10:13.400 It's what I struggled with throughout this book. What is it that so particularly offends you

00:10:18.600 about the existence of a Jewish state that is a Jewish safe place and not any of the other 0.91

00:10:24.120 states out there? There's nothing that offends me about a Jewish state. I am offended by the idea 1.00

00:10:29.460 of states built on ethnocracy no matter where they are. I'm the child of people that were born into a

00:10:33.440 country where that was exactly the case of American apartheid. I walk over there and I walk through 0.65

00:10:38.820 the occupied territories and I walk down a street in Hebron and a guy says to me, I can't walk down

00:10:44.840 the street unless I profess my religion. I'm with another path. No, no, no, no, no. I want to go. 0.98

00:10:49.780 This is very, very important. It is extremely important. Let me lay it down. I'm working with

00:10:53.620 the person that is guiding me is a Palestinian whose father, whose grandfather and grandmother was

00:10:58.840 born in this town. And I have more freedom to walk than he does. Why is that? Why is that okay?

00:11:04.700 Why is that? Why is there no agency in this book for the Palestinians? They exist in your narrative

00:11:10.280 merely as victims of the Israelis, as though they were not offered peace at any juncture,

00:11:14.780 as though they don't have a stake in this as well. What is their role in the lack of a

00:11:18.560 I have a very, very, very, very moral compass about this. And again, perhaps it's because of my

00:11:24.260 ancestry. Either apartheid is right or it's wrong. It's really, really simple. Even 0.91

00:11:28.840 he's got a very, very, very moral compass about this. What, I mean, what Tony de Coppola was trying

00:11:36.420 to do was to say, um, there's another side of the story. There's a reason the Palestinians rights 1.00

00:11:43.040 are somewhat abridged inside of Israel. There's a history there. You see of them attacking Israel 0.98

00:11:50.920 over and over and over. Even the peaceful civilians who tried to give them jobs, who tried to drive their

00:11:56.340 kids to doctors for them, who tried to have a peaceful existence living next to them only to

00:12:01.340 get bombed over and over and over again. That's what he was trying to say. And Coates saw it a

00:12:08.540 different way. Fine. What this anchor was trying to do was offer the other side of the story.

00:12:13.460 That's what led to the meltdown because that's not allowed. And I'm telling you,

00:12:18.080 if it hadn't been Ta-Nehisi Coates, if it hadn't been this revered black writer who is like a Kendi

00:12:24.640 type to these leftists who are inside these media organizations, they would not be having the

00:12:28.840 meltdown. They would see exactly what had happened there. But you know, for these leftists, race

00:12:33.840 colors everything. It does. It colors everything. It's like the rose colored glasses, only it doesn't

00:12:41.320 make them see things in a more rosy way. It makes them see a very dark, sad world in which we're all

00:12:48.080 to skin color. And any white who questions somebody who is black in anything approaching

00:12:54.160 a confrontational manner is bad. Remember white chicks for Kamala? God forbid you think about 0.99

00:13:01.380 correcting a person of color. That woman was nuts, but she speaks for these leftists. That's how they 1.00

00:13:09.680 see these exchanges. And it's playing out right now inside of CBS. You'd think a news organization

00:13:15.960 would understand that's nonsense. This is what we do for a living. That's not what happened.

00:13:20.440 So on Monday, this happened like a week or so ago on Monday, 10, seven, the one year mark after

00:13:28.440 the worst terrorist attack in Israel, Monday, 10, seven CBS decided to hold an all hands on deck

00:13:34.580 staff meeting. And it was an editorial meeting and somebody taped it because people were allowed to

00:13:40.620 participate via zoom, which promptly got canceled after they realized somebody had leaked this.

00:13:46.020 They're not going to be having any more on zoom. And it included, uh, Wendy McMahon, the head of CBS news

00:13:52.820 and Adrian Rourke, who's in charge of news gathering at the network. And they kicked this thing off by

00:14:02.260 apologizing to the staff for that interview. Listen to Adrian Rourke in charge of news gathering at CBS news

00:14:13.620 and what she said sought to 20. And as hard as this is, that means we set our personal feelings and

00:14:22.220 beliefs aside. We will still ask tough questions. We will still hold people accountable. That's part of

00:14:30.280 our job too, but we will do so objectively. And that means very plainly, we have to check our bias

00:14:38.480 and opinions at the door. Many of you have reached out to express concerns over recent reporting

00:14:44.120 specifically about the CBS morning's codes interview from last week, as well as comments made coming out

00:14:52.380 of some of our correspondence reporting. This has been addressed and it will continue to be in the future

00:14:58.680 because this goes way beyond one interview, one comment, one story. This is about preserving the

00:15:06.200 legacy of neutrality and objectivity. That is CBS news. Wow. Legacy of neutrality and objectivity.

00:15:17.240 She went on to say, there are times we fail our audiences and each other. We're in one of those times

00:15:23.760 right now. She threw this guy under the bus. What he did was somehow morally wrong. And that was obvious

00:15:32.920 to this person, Adrian Rourke, that he had somehow besmirched CBS news's pristine journalistic legacy.

00:15:40.860 There was a time when that was the case, when uncle Walter was doing the evening news, Walter Cronkite,

00:15:45.840 that time has passed and they know it. So Jan Crawford, who is an excellent reporter. She was

00:15:54.860 at the Supreme court covering SCOTUS when I was, uh, and she's been their justice correspondent for,

00:15:59.180 you know, 15 years. I think she was on that morning editorial call and defended the interview

00:16:07.000 and her colleague here. Listen to that in part. Our commitment was to truth. And when someone comes

00:16:13.940 on our air with a one-sided account, uh, of a very complex situation, uh, as codes himself

00:16:20.900 acknowledges that he has, it's my understanding that as journalists, we are obligated to challenge

00:16:27.540 that worldview so that our viewers can have that access to the truth or a fuller account,

00:16:33.680 a more balanced account. And to me, that is what Tony did. He prevented a one-sided account

00:16:40.000 from being broadcast on our network as journalists. It seems to me, that's what we have an obligation

00:16:45.580 to do. And as someone that does a lot of interviews, including on controversial topics with public

00:16:50.860 figures, you know, I'm not really sure now how to proceed, uh, in challenging, uh, viewpoints that

00:17:02.660 are obviously one-sided and devoid of fact or history. Good for her. She's exactly right.

00:17:11.060 How is he being chastised when you're presenting somebody who's only got one side of the story on

00:17:15.940 a very controversial topic on a news program that purports to be straight down the middle,

00:17:21.820 straight news, not taking a side here. How is she supposed to navigate that when you're not allowed

00:17:28.560 to ask challenging questions? You're not allowed to press him with even provocative questions.

00:17:34.920 That's ridiculous. That is the legacy of CBS news decades ago. Obviously they've gotten far

00:17:41.940 afield of that. As you know, they recently let Catherine Herridge go because even though she's

00:17:47.360 a great reporter when it comes to the intelligence field, she was getting a little too close to the

00:17:51.940 truth. I mean, it's no shock. You all saw what CBS news did during that vice presidential debate.

00:17:57.160 They literally cut the mic of the Republican vice presidential candidate when he was trying to

00:18:03.660 correct a fake news fact check that was being brought down upon him in a debate. They said they

00:18:09.640 wouldn't fact check, cut his mic so he couldn't make his point and on and on it goes. That's,

00:18:15.180 that's who they are today. And this woman trying to cloak herself in sanctimony. He's like, Oh, 0.96

00:18:20.260 our, our legacy, you know, I mean, please, who are you kidding? You only got upset when one of your

00:18:26.960 leftist idols was challenged meaningfully by one of the morning hosts. So now they're in a full on

00:18:36.320 struggle session over there, full on struggle session to the point where they, they decided

00:18:42.640 they invited according to Dylan Byers, who's a media critic and reporter, he writes for puck news

00:18:47.580 to invite, they invited to self-describe mental health expert, DEI strategist and trauma trainer,

00:18:56.000 Dr. Donald Grant to moderate conversation on this issue within CBS in an all staff meeting the next

00:19:04.580 day. Well, people started to look up who is this guy, Dr. Donald Grant, self-described trauma trainer.

00:19:11.120 And if you look at his Instagram, this is, uh, at Jerry Dunleavy on X posted this, uh, you see

00:19:21.320 a graphic, this trainer posted called magicide, a noun, death of a nation caused by injuring said

00:19:30.580 nation with the intent to destroy through the adoption of insidious policies, the normalization

00:19:35.940 of divisive practices and the installation of sociopathic people. A magicide attempt is when 0.56

00:19:42.600 a subpopulation of a nation harms that nation with the intent to destroy. Even worse, even worse than 1.00

00:19:51.580 that, their chosen expert who's going to help them heal after Tony's cardinal sins is someone, uh, is,

00:19:58.940 is someone who posted a photo of what he captioned uncle Tim's cabin. It is a photo with Senator Tim

00:20:09.060 Scott's face photoshopped on the faces of black people outside of a cabin. And they threw in Candace 0.90

00:20:17.440 Owens for good measure. Um, this is unbelievable. Tim Scott, to his credit, retweeted this news that

00:20:25.000 they were going to use this guy as their trauma counselor with a, the message, a message that read

00:20:30.680 you good CBS. Perfect. Perfectly done. You, you, you guys. Okay. There was also a graphic on this

00:20:39.440 trainer's Instagram of how to pronounce Kamala's name. He got very angry because he said it's only

00:20:47.480 racist and sexist because these names just roll off your tongue. Federer scars guard. He's

00:20:55.000 Djokovic, which let's face it. That took all of us forever to pronounce Galifianakis. Same. Uh,

00:21:01.800 we put an extra effort to get some people's names, right? Not because they're tricky, but because we

00:21:07.860 care. You see, we only care about the whites like Djokovic and we don't care about Kamala because she's 1.00

00:21:15.800 black. Then there was one about, uh, that had a photo of a black man holding a sign that reads,

00:21:21.100 Dear white people, stop using Dr. King as an example of a peaceful protest. You shot him too. 0.54

00:21:30.200 So this was going to be the healing character that they brought into CBS news to hear, to heal

00:21:37.520 the rift. And you know what? There's some honesty in it because it was turning into a racial thing.

00:21:42.220 The reports were that the black staffers were very upset at Tony and very angry that he didn't allow

00:21:50.400 Gail to speak, not to mention the other guy who was white, a white man. They felt like, you know,

00:21:56.700 Gail should have been allowed more. And now it's everything boils down to like, how much airtime

00:22:00.700 did the black woman get versus this white guy, this white Jewish guy, God forbid, who's by the way, 0.76

00:22:06.160 not only is he Jewish, but he has an ex-wife who lives in Israel with his children.

00:22:09.660 So he's got a lot of knowledge about this region and has standing, if you will, to object to the

00:22:17.900 one-sided nature of Coates's book and was totally within the bounds of reason in doing so. All right.

00:22:25.220 So they decide after Jerry Donleavy does his homework and post this online, maybe we shouldn't

00:22:30.320 invite this so-called doctor, uh, Dr. Donald Grant to moderate this conversation might not really be

00:22:37.340 the best choice. Um, so we're not sure who, if anybody moderated said conversation, but in the

00:22:44.520 meantime, on the subject of Gail King, the following trailer drops, you see, um, Coates decided to go as

00:22:54.280 he's promoting this book on Trevor Noah's podcast, the guy who used to host the daily show. And they

00:23:01.820 released a lengthy trailer for Ta-Nehisi Coates's appearance with Trevor Noah. And would you listen

00:23:10.420 to how he, Coates describes his conversation with Gail King backstage right before the interview we just

00:23:20.760 went through? Watch.

00:23:21.480 And I know she's getting a lot of stuff right now. So I really want to say this. Gail King is a great

00:23:27.360 journalist and a great interviewer. And, um, Gail came behind the stage before we went and she had

00:23:35.600 gone through the book. And I'm not saying she like agreed with the book. She was like, I'm gonna ask

00:23:40.300 you about this. I'm gonna ask you about that. I want you. It was like, Gail was considered.

00:23:43.080 Oh my God.

00:23:43.920 If there's one thing Gail King is, it's considered. But she didn't speak.

00:23:46.720 It was her handwritten notes. Her handwritten notes were there. You know what I mean? She had

00:23:50.920 all these things. And I think while on the one hand, he probably did me a service, you know what

00:23:58.960 I mean? By just kind of take comment during that interview. I don't think he did Nate and Gail a

00:24:05.020 service. And I'm really, really sorry for them.

00:24:07.460 Okay. First of all, a correction. The third anchor on the set, Steve Krakauer tells me his name,

00:24:15.720 Nate Burleson. And he's not white. He's black. I didn't know. I never watched this channel. I

00:24:20.560 have no idea of this, but I guess that's a double sin because now you not only didn't let Gail speak,

00:24:25.220 who is black, you didn't let Nate Burleson speak and he's black too. So double sin by their co-host, 0.98

00:24:30.920 Tony DeCopal. So you hear, you hear Ta-Nehisi Coates there saying that Gail,

00:24:37.460 King went over what she was going to be asking him before the interview. She had all of her notes

00:24:46.340 there and she went over it in advance. That is not okay. That is not okay at any news organization,

00:24:54.520 not before an interview where the guy is coming on, on a subject like this, a dicey, this isn't like

00:25:00.280 two girlfriends sitting down like, Hey, what kind of wine do you like? Or even like Stephen Colbert

00:25:06.880 saying, we're going to ask her about beer, you know, that he's not a journalist, but I'm just

00:25:11.460 saying that kind of lightheaded thing. Like what kind of beer does she like? What should we, that's

00:25:15.920 fine. Going to a guest who is controversial, who's written a very controversial book and saying,

00:25:22.780 these are the points I'm going to raise. And I don't know how far that went. Did she give actual

00:25:27.360 questions, but even telling him this is where we're going to go together. I'm going to ask you this.

00:25:32.500 Then we're going to go over this. I'm going to zero in on this. That's not okay. And you heard

00:25:37.660 it straight from the horse's mouth. He's saying the guest is saying she did it. Is Gail King going

00:25:44.400 to be dragged in front of the rest of the staff and chastised by this woman, this editorial boss,

00:25:51.820 uh, and Adrian Rourke about meeting the editorial standards of CBS news that they need to lean into

00:26:00.880 their objectivity and checking their biases and their opinions. And that sometimes we fail our

00:26:07.840 audiences and we're in one of those times. Don't hold your breath. I mean, what an embarrassment.

00:26:14.080 And it's to the point now where she hasn't even come out and spoken to it. It's like,

00:26:16.980 she doesn't feel the need to defend herself. It's fine. No one expected anything more of her.

00:26:21.720 And she knows that because she's at CBS, because she's Gail King, Oprah's best friend and a black woman,

00:26:28.280 no one's going to give her a hard time about it. We're not going to give her her. She's the victim

00:26:31.760 in this. You see, because she didn't get to ask her questions that she'd already gone over with

00:26:35.320 coats. She's the victim. So here's the last chapter in this, at least for now. Um, wait,

00:26:43.460 one thing before I get to the last chapter, Tony's sin was allegedly showing bias on a subject that is

00:26:50.160 near and dear to him. That's not okay. It's CBS news. That's what they want us to believe.

00:26:54.360 But the free press, our friends over at the free press took a deep dive into this and they pointed

00:26:59.820 out the hypocrisy of this, the double standard, because after central park, Karen, remember Amy

00:27:07.300 Cooper had her dust up with the birdwatching guy who was so nasty to her about her dog. 0.81

00:27:13.040 They allowed Gail King to go on the air and do the following. So 24, I am speechless. I'm really,

00:27:22.540 really speechless about what we're seeing on television this morning. It feels to me like

00:27:26.860 a open season and that it's just a, not sometimes a safe place to be in this country for black men.

00:27:32.740 And today is too much for me. She personalized it. She editorialized. She offered her opinion

00:27:41.300 on a very controversial case that was in the news. She spoke to it as a black woman. Totally fine.

00:27:48.620 Totally fine. But this guy, Tony speaking to a very controversial issue that's in the news and a

00:27:56.640 one-sided presentation of it happened on his air. He may not speak to his personal opinion as a Jewish

00:28:02.780 man with kids living in Israel that violates CBS's editorial standards. F you CBS. You're disgusting.

00:28:11.800 You know exactly what you did. His view needed to be silenced because it was in defense of Israel 0.98

00:28:18.400 and because the staffers on board in particular, according to the reports, the minority staffers,

00:28:24.960 probably the young kids through a fit about equity and centering black and brown people.

00:28:31.280 And you caved because that's what these networks do. They also appear to have made Tony

00:28:37.680 duck a pool, have a private meeting with Nate and Gail in his office. And here is the final chapter for

00:28:47.140 now. This is from the New York post in an exclusive. Tony spoke at Tuesday's staff only meeting. The one

00:28:55.380 from which the trauma trainer got booted. It was not attended by Gail and Nate said a source with

00:29:02.460 knowledge. He said he regretted putting his colleagues in that position, especially those

00:29:08.040 who are overseas and in danger as if CBS is like choosing a side. Bullshit. What a lie. There were

00:29:14.820 tears. People were very upset. Staffers are divided on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. We know that's

00:29:21.120 why he was right to offer the other side. And they were troubled by how he challenged coats last week.

00:29:28.180 They say he did not back down from his questioning of coats. Um, but some black staffers who attended

00:29:35.680 the meeting were critical that Nate Burleson and King have remained tight lipped about the matter.

00:29:43.820 Dokopol held a private meeting Monday with his co-host in his office. And, um, now he's out there

00:29:51.900 offering his regrets. He regrets putting his colleagues in that position. So that's as close

00:29:58.860 as we're going to get to, I guess, his apology, which is what they really want or his head on a

00:30:04.340 stake that that will satisfy them. Look, I'm just going to tell you something. I like, I went through

00:30:09.000 this. I've, I've been in this guy's exact position where the staff at one of these woke leftist media

00:30:15.220 organizations goes into full meltdown because they didn't like something factual that you said.

00:30:22.280 And then you're forced to talk to your colleagues about it, to have these struggle sessions with

00:30:28.560 these woke asshole young producers who don't know shit. One of whom I, I gave this guy so many

00:30:35.300 opportunities at NBC news. Nobody knew who this guy was. I gave him so many opportunities and he stuck

00:30:41.100 the knife in me just as soon as I ran into trouble there and then had the nerve to come begging me

00:30:45.840 for a job after NBC fired his ass. It was so fun telling him to pound sand. Really, I just ignored

00:30:52.400 him, which is the best response, but I did see your request and you know who you are and you've got

00:30:57.380 nerve, nerve asking me to hire you. Anyway, karma has a way of settling things in that way, but I'm sure

00:31:05.900 this is stressful for this poor guy who's never in the news. Let's face it. Nobody knows who this is.

00:31:09.540 And, um, suddenly all of his colleagues turn on him except for Jan, Jan Crawford. And he got the,

00:31:16.480 the bosses of his whole network calling all hands on deck meetings to embarrass you and publicly

00:31:21.260 pretend like you've committed some terrible sin. It's traumatic. And I'm sure he's very on his heels

00:31:27.380 right now and wondering if somehow he did something wrong or he's got to make amends somehow. And I

00:31:33.120 certainly hope that his two co-hosts went in there and said, you did nothing wrong. I certainly hope they

00:31:39.120 did that. And you know what? They should say that publicly. They should have his back publicly.

00:31:45.440 They should make sure that they get asked that question at their next media appearance and they

00:31:50.160 should have his back. I was in a worse position because my anchors were publicly attacking me

00:31:56.640 everywhere on the air, on the today show, uh, all over Twitter publicly attacking me. Um,

00:32:03.480 he's not quite in that position, but certainly nobody defended me, including Gail King, by the way,

00:32:09.220 who I was friends with. Did she defend? No, she didn't. No. Um, so in any event, I don't think

00:32:15.580 we can expect great things from her, uh, or the co-host. I don't know him and I don't know anything

00:32:20.560 about him, but so far they're letting this guy twist and CBS is fine with ruining his reputation,

00:32:25.860 letting him just seem like he's committed some journalistic sin and letting people like Jan twist

00:32:29.960 wondering what exactly am I expected to do here at this news organization? All right. We're going

00:32:39.340 to get to your questions in a minute. Uh, we're going to do a little asked and answered on this

00:32:44.100 show, but first I want to bring you another edition of a franchise in this show that we call

00:32:48.980 you can't say that where we highlight something you can't say or do or think you're just not allowed

00:32:54.240 to in 2024 America. Today's topic is personal, not for me, but for my producer, Lauren, who we snatched

00:33:02.480 up a couple of years ago out of the beautiful state of California. Now we love, we love the weather

00:33:09.120 in California and we love Lauren. However, you know, it's, it's basically the people's Republic

00:33:13.920 of California. And so we got lucky and found Lauren in orange County. That was smart. Um, we got her

00:33:23.720 and now she is a producer working for the Megan Kelly show. But before that she was a member of

00:33:30.460 the USC song girl team. You probably never heard of the song girls unless you're from Southern

00:33:36.520 California. Well, let me tell you about them. The song girls, they're not cheerleaders. They have 0.96

00:33:41.140 those two at the university of Southern California, but these girls are more of a dance squad and they 1.00

00:33:46.100 work hard. Essentially athletes themselves who perform at all the big football games and the other big

00:33:51.680 university events. Here you see them. The USC song girl team is known for its rich history tradition

00:33:57.560 and is recognized as an iconic symbol of the university spirit. The song girls, according

00:34:02.540 to the website are quote, often referred to as the ambassadors of the university of Southern

00:34:07.860 California. The dedication, the loyalty, the quest for continual improvement are hallmarks of the team.

00:34:14.420 Says the website. That sounds great. But then something strange happened. It happened quietly just a couple

00:34:20.940 of weeks ago. The U S song girls, you see were renamed. What happened to the USC song girls? Why were they

00:34:28.060 renamed? There wasn't a big announcement. Instead, the song girls website and social media accounts were

00:34:34.240 just edited. The new name, the USC song leaders. In fact, the website URL just says USC song. Now just

00:34:47.440 song. What's noticeably absent? Well, girls, of course. And the USC song girls are a team made up solely

00:34:56.340 of girls and have been for each of the past 50 plus years in their existence. But suddenly the girls

00:35:03.520 are gone. And now they are the song leaders. In fact, you can look throughout the team's website

00:35:13.080 and social media posts and the word girls doesn't appear at all. It has been scrubbed. So what happened?

00:35:21.160 Well, we got a statement from USC's assistant director of spirit programs who told us spirit programs,

00:35:27.560 which include the song team, spirit leaders and mascots, and the Trojan marching band,

00:35:33.520 were brought together as the spirit of Troy in 2022. The spirit of Troy is actively enhancing

00:35:42.360 a welcoming and positive team environment. To include all students, the song team recently adopted

00:35:51.960 the name song leaders, a name they held in the early 2000s. Ah, there it is. Welcoming, include,

00:36:02.020 you know where this is going and you know why this happened. Lauren may have been a song girl, 0.99

00:36:07.740 but going forward, the future members of this team are going to be leaders only with no gendered

00:36:15.140 phrases. So as not to offend the LGBTQ crowd, they are the ones for whom this was undoubtedly changed.

00:36:24.300 And undoubtedly there will be a song boy who we just refer to as a song leader on the team sometime

00:36:31.780 soon. If there isn't already, the next debate will be debate will be about what preferred pronouns

00:36:37.580 we should be using for the song leaders. Do we say the song leaders would like to use the

00:36:44.820 non-gendered bathroom? Oh, this is the captain of the song leaders. She, the leader would like to ask

00:36:55.660 for your support. Let's watch how this works for them. Because when you erase women and you erase 0.99

00:37:04.020 girls, you're playing with fire. You are setting us down a path that is very, very dangerous for women 1.00

00:37:11.240 in America. We don't count. Our testimonials don't count. Womanhood doesn't count is no longer a thing. 1.00

00:37:19.400 And the next thing you know, you've got babies being born and grown in incubators and you've got

00:37:25.700 chest feeding. If you're not able to say what a woman is, what a girl is without finding those terms

00:37:33.080 offensive enough that they must be scrubbed right out of existence. USC who continues to believe that

00:37:42.380 if you have a bunch of women on a dance team and you want to call them song girls, well, you can't 1.00

00:37:49.440 say that. Oh, wait, this is America coming up. I answer some of your questions. There's a lot at stake

00:37:56.440 in this upcoming election, but regardless of who is sitting in the white house, the fuse on the economy

00:38:01.740 has already been lit. Even four years of a conservative presidency will not be enough to

00:38:07.120 turn the tide on our $35 trillion national debt. And if the left wins, it will be like throwing gas

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00:39:03.960 Now we have an edition of Asked and Answered, which is where we answer some of our viewer

00:39:08.700 mail. If you want to email me, you can do it now. It's megan, M-E-G-Y-N, at megankelly.com.

00:39:16.280 And we will go through them every week, as we always do, and pull a few to address on the air,

00:39:21.740 and we will read your emails privately. So that always happens, only if you get selected.

00:39:27.000 Steve Krakauer is here in the Red Studio with me today.

00:39:29.840 That's right. Yeah, it's good to be here.

00:39:30.940 This is our executive producer. You guys, you usually, sometimes he comes on,

00:39:34.040 but you never get to see like the actual man sitting here.

00:39:36.200 And they're normally in Texas.

00:39:37.340 I know, welcome.

00:39:37.880 Got out for a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

00:39:39.260 Great to have you here in the Northeast.

00:39:40.520 It's good to be here. I know we're talking election, getting ready for election night.

00:39:43.360 So getting all that, getting that ready.

00:39:46.520 People don't know there's a whole other side of the studio over there,

00:39:49.180 which we will be showing you on election night. And we're using

00:39:51.760 lots of different places here for our coverage.

00:39:54.480 It's going to be big. It's going to be a big night. Yeah.

00:39:56.460 All right. So what do we have?

00:39:57.200 Well, that actually kind of dovetails with the first question here. This is from Matthew,

00:40:00.220 who wants to know that they say Kamala Harris is not coming on this show. Probably not.

00:40:04.760 We've made the request, I should say. But if she did, what would be one question you would want to ask her?

00:40:10.660 Hmm. What is a woman? I mean, I asked, or can a woman become a man? What I asked Trump? Let's see how she does. 1.00

00:40:21.860 Can you imagine if I asked her that? Can a woman become a man? She would be so uncomfortable. That's why she will never come. 1.00

00:40:27.780 No, no. It would be about dreams and aspirations.

00:40:30.000 I'd really also like to ask her, you say that you proposed a border bill from day one of your

00:40:35.880 administration. If you really wanted to crack down on the border, why did you reverse remain in Mexico?

00:40:42.520 You know, all of the asylum policies. I'd go through those executive orders that we've been

00:40:46.000 reading on the show. Can you imagine? Right. I'd love to hear her answer that question.

00:40:51.300 It's like asking the border question in a way that actually gets an answer.

00:40:54.200 Yes.

00:40:54.620 And what 60 Minutes did.

00:40:55.820 Wouldn't that be nice?

00:40:56.380 Yes. All right. Here's another one. This is from Elizabeth. It's kind of a personal one. She says

00:41:00.200 she's a 24 year old graduate student at a university that claims to be Christian. It's interesting.

00:41:04.800 In her classes, she's being instructed on how to support trans students taking tests on how she 0.99

00:41:10.040 can advocate for them. She wants to be a school psychologist, but she's feeling discouraged.

00:41:14.560 What do you think? Should she continue in this career or what should she do? 0.92

00:41:17.900 That is very tough because that industry has been captured by woke leftists, you know,

00:41:24.920 from the American Psychiatry Association to the American Academy of Pediatrics. And the standard

00:41:29.600 in that industry is to affirm. And you actually could lose your license potentially if you don't

00:41:34.820 do what they want you to do. In some states, it's considered conversion therapy.

00:41:39.300 So I think I would be really sure what the regulations were in my chosen state. I'd probably

00:41:46.240 stay to red states where you are allowed to explore issues thoughtfully and like with

00:41:53.940 love as opposed to just know you can only affirm and find out whether you could potentially lose

00:41:59.800 your license over that. Because how could you do it if you can't do it honestly? If you can't

00:42:03.260 actually help these kids, how could you become part of that machine? It doesn't sound like you

00:42:07.040 could live with that. And I don't blame you. You shouldn't live with that. So if that doesn't

00:42:11.200 work out, you could always do. We've had a couple of people on this show like Miriam Grossman who have

00:42:16.180 an outside counseling business for families and kids. And she's now gotten very bold about being

00:42:21.340 a resource for families who want honest counseling in these situations. You could go that lane and

00:42:26.340 actually you should like connect with her. I think we actually have a contact for her.

00:42:31.320 Yeah. Maybe we can hook her up. Yeah. Elizabeth, by the way, I don't know. Elizabeth. Maybe we can

00:42:35.400 hook Elizabeth up so she can ask somebody who's already doing this kind of work on what the lanes 0.83

00:42:40.660 available to her are. Elizabeth, we're going to do that for you. Excellent. All right. Last one. This

00:42:45.860 is from Hallie. And she wants to know, you've spoken about your friendships over the years.

00:42:50.400 She wants to know if you keep in touch with friends from high school, college, law school,

00:42:53.180 and from which period of your life are your closest friends? That's so sweet. They're spread out a bit.

00:42:59.140 So my closest friend in high school and for middle school, like for just a long period of my

00:43:05.420 adolescence was Kelly McGinnis. I've mentioned her on the show many times. It was Megan Kelly,

00:43:11.020 Kelly McGinnis. We were freaking frack. We dressed alike. We did everything together. We were inseparable

00:43:14.760 and she and I are still in touch. She's great. She still lives near my hometown. Um, and then in college,

00:43:22.060 I really kind of was with my boyfriend. Most of the time I wound up deactivating from my sorority

00:43:28.540 because I was just so into my boyfriend who is a lacrosse player and couldn't go to any of the

00:43:32.740 fraternity things or the, the mixers in the Greek system that I was supposed to go to. And he and I

00:43:38.240 were just absolutely mad for one another. And so he was the main figure of that period for me. And no,

00:43:43.800 we are no longer in touch. It didn't end badly. It actually ended really sweetly, but it's, I wrote

00:43:48.820 about it in my book. You can read it there. It's, he's the one ex of mine that Doug really likes,

00:43:54.200 you know, like when Doug hears the stories, Sean Ryan also, right? I think I remember that story.

00:43:58.540 Yeah. The lacrosse player and the lesson about how, you know, he was the one who was practicing

00:44:02.880 and the other team was watching them. Yeah. He just gave me such self-confidence in a way I didn't

00:44:08.000 have before. He looked at me so differently. He taught me how to look at myself differently. And,

00:44:11.920 uh, I have nothing but affection for this guy. I think his life ran into some serious trouble

00:44:17.920 after we broke up, not, not because we broke up, but just later. And, uh, we were in touch maybe once

00:44:24.780 10 years after that, just by phone, but still, I, I've got a soft spot for the guy and I wish him

00:44:30.040 well. So that's kind of why I don't have a ton of college friends that I'm still in touch with.

00:44:34.500 But my closest law school friend, Donna, you know, Donna. Yeah. How, how do we know Donna?

00:44:40.220 Donna's a regular, uh, listener and viewer, I guess, listener probably, right? She listens live.

00:44:45.220 She listens that you live on the SiriusXM app. She literally never misses a show.

00:44:49.020 No, she's, she's taken in every minute of content we've ever done. And right after the show,

00:44:54.440 she gives me her thoughts. Like today we're, we're taping this on yesterday, Wednesday.

00:44:59.800 Let's see what she texted me every day. She gives me one. Um, she said, LOL,

00:45:05.160 re Kamala doing her Harry Belafonte imitation. Have you no empathy, mon?

00:45:11.120 And she went on from there, but I love my Donna reviews. If she doesn't like the show,

00:45:15.660 she'll tell me that too. But this is, this woman is so smart. She was a vice president at one of

00:45:20.360 these big investment banks before she even got to law school. She was already so accomplished.

00:45:24.540 And I was like, Oh my God, this seems amazing. She already had a kid. She had a second kid in law

00:45:28.800 school and she still graduated at the top of our class on time. She was always a gunner. She went on 0.96

00:45:34.720 to have a brilliant legal career. And now she's also back in my hometown and we're, we're in daily touch.

00:45:40.500 I mean, we, we text about the show, blah, blah, blah. So in terms of my past life, uh, she's

00:45:46.380 definitely my closest friend. And then, you know, now it's basically all the people I knew in New

00:45:50.320 York and the people I'm meeting here in Connecticut, I'm already developing some great friendships out

00:45:54.520 here and it's great. You know, I wouldn't say I'm the greatest at like, if I had like a huge party

00:46:00.980 to celebrate a birthday, you wouldn't see like 15 people from this era, 15 people. I'm not like that.

00:46:06.260 I'm not, life's too busy, but I have a couple who are really important to me.

00:46:09.940 That's great. Excellent. We'll keep the questions coming. Megan, Megan Kelly.com.

00:46:13.660 That's right. And when you go to me, you should go to Megan Kelly.com and just type in your email.

00:46:19.860 We don't sell the emails. We don't do any of that nonsense. And we don't barrage you on Fridays.

00:46:23.340 We send you one email. It's just like, uh, we call it the American news minute because in 60 seconds

00:46:28.060 or less, less, we'll give you all the week, the news you need to know from the week. And we'll give you

00:46:31.860 some highlights from the show, some fun updates behind the scenes stuff. And always the Strudwick file

00:46:37.200 remains the most clicked on item on the newsletter. It's amazing.

00:46:43.540 Yeah. They love him. I didn't see him earlier. I know that's because he goes to doggy daycare

00:46:47.960 three days out of the five, right?

00:46:49.760 We got Strud so that Thunder would have a buddy. And then he became such a handful and so naughty.

00:46:57.100 We had to ship him off to doggy daycare three days of the week. So Thunder is still sitting

00:47:00.820 there alone and our house is also being destroyed.

00:47:04.200 Right, right, right. I saw some of those pumpkins you were talking about a couple of days ago.

00:47:08.860 I came up today. He's eating all the pumpkins outside of my house and like the big squash

00:47:14.060 things. I don't know, even know what they are. And, um, he eats off the top. And so like the exposed

00:47:18.940 flesh of the pumpkin or squash, whatever is, is there. And now I came up, it was like animal kingdom,

00:47:23.660 the number of squirrels that were on my front porch. I'm like, Oh my God. I'm like, get out of

00:47:28.140 here. Get out of here. The squirrels didn't even scurry. They were like, we're good. I'm like,

00:47:32.400 get out of here. You rodents. Then finally they got off. Cause I was like, move,

00:47:35.860 they move and it's covered in bugs. There's bugs everywhere. I'm like,

00:47:40.980 that's what he does. That's like his third huge squash he's eaten is squash locale.

00:47:47.760 I don't know. We have to ask, uh, Casey means it's not going well, Steve. Anyway, thank you.

00:47:55.240 And thanks to all of you for watching and listening. Check it out. Megan Kelly.com

00:47:59.440 and send me your emails. Thanks for listening.

00:48:01.980 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - October 10, 2024

Megyn Kelly on the Meltdown and Hypocrisy at CBS News Over Coates Interview and ＂60 Minutes＂ Edits ｜ Ep. 912

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