Megyn Kelly on the Truth About the Charlie Kirk Assassination, Plus Dave Smith on Epstein, Israel, and Distrusting the Elites ｜ Ep. 1212
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Summary
Tyler Robinson, the man accused of murdering our friend Charlie Kirk in September, made his first in-person court appearance yesterday out in Utah. He was allowed to wear civilian gear, not a civilian jumpsuit, in order to protect his presumption of innocence, given that while there are obviously no jurors yet, this trial doesn t take place until January of 2027.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.
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We begin today on the court appearance by Tyler Robinson, the man accused extremely credibly of murdering our friend Charlie Kirk in September.
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He made his first in-person court appearance yesterday out in Utah.
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He had appeared virtually in two previous hearings and he was allowed to wear civilian gear, not a prison jumpsuit, in order to protect his presumption of innocence, given that while there are obviously no jurors yet, this trial doesn't take place until tentatively January of 2027.
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He would be on camera with the media there and they don't want to taint the jury pool.
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He gets to stand there like some sort of upstanding citizen in his blue button-down shirt and tie.
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He was all smiles, which is fucking disgusting because I guess he's feeling joyful.
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He's maybe feeling like he's going to get away with it.
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I do care, but I don't care about his well-being.
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I mean, I'm sorry that she's sad and I'm sorry she raised a killer, but that's what she did.
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Again, I have some empathy for the parents, but not for him, not for him whatsoever.
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And the parents, for the record, did the right thing.
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When they recognized their son from the pictures that were released of the crime scene by the FBI within the hours after Charlie was murdered, and they recognized the picture of the gun that the FBI released, and they contacted him.
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They were the ones who identified their own son as having been the person in the photos and that having been the gun that his grandfather gave to him.
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He reportedly confessed to his parents, who then brought in a family friend who was both a pastor and connected with law enforcement to convince Tyler Robinson to turn himself in, which is what happened.
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That's why, among other reasons, he was arrested.
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His fingerprints were all over the gun, were reportedly over, I can't remember if it was the ammo, in addition to the doors leading to the rooftop, etc.
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And in addition to confessing to his parents, he confessed to his trans furry lover in text messages that I grant you sound odd.
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They sound a little prescripted, but that does not lead sane people to believe this was the FBI creating a false dialogue, but possibly these two freaks, Tyler Robinson and his trans furry boyfriend, creating a false dialogue.
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To, in my view, at best, try to exonerate Lance Twiggs, the trans furry boyfriend, from knowing about this thing in advance, which I believe he did.
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I believe he knew in advance, and I believe his weird trans furry community knew in advance.
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And some couldn't keep their fucking mouth shut and started spewing off online about, wait until September 10th.
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Wait until you see what happens September 10th.
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And then when Charlie was murdered, went back online to say, see, I told you.
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So I'd love to know where things stand with that piece of the investigation, but because I am a sane person who understands the law, I also know that the FBI, hello, does not run around updating its investigation and releasing the very latest on what they found.
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And people who are demanding that the FBI or DOJ do so do not know anything about law enforcement, some of us have been covering in depth legal cases and matters and have even tried cases and matters for years.
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That is how I have spent the past 30 years of my life, plus trying cases involved in the legal system as a trial attorney, then a Supreme Court correspondent covering cases, civil and criminal, then as a legal correspondent for Fox News, legal commentator for Fox News, and ever thereafter.
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And let me tell you something. The FBI does not run around updating its information after somebody gets indicted. It doesn't. It would be extraordinary if it were to do so.
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And the DOJ is extremely tight lipped normally on its criminal cases. When it's not, it's behaving inappropriately.
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When it's not, you have rogue prosecutors who wasn't with the DOJ, Tess James, but like her, the attorney general of New York, running around trying to update her case against Donald Trump, or Fannie Willis shooting her mouth off about Donald Trump.
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What did we do when those prosecutors did that? We ripped them a new one because it's inappropriate.
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Stop requesting or requiring the FBI or the DOJ to update its evidence for you. You're not the target audience.
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They're trying to preserve the integrity of this case for when they get it in front of a jury who are the only people who matter.
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I'm sorry, but their opinion is the only opinion that's going to matter in this case.
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And they will come to that opinion based on evidence that gets submitted to them that passes the rules of evidence, which are there to maintain the integrity of a case and investigation and of the defendant's constitutional rights.
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And it would be inappropriate for them to come out and shoot off their mouths about the latest and greatest they have, unless and until they are ready to arrest somebody else.
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And when they are, if they are on trans Tifa, we're all ears.
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Then they will provide some basic modicum of evidence to support the arresting affidavit, the arrest indictment.
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By the way, criminal prosecutors have an ethical obligation not to spout off about their evidence in the case.
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We actually pulled this this morning, just in case you were wondering.
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Rule 3.8 of the ABA model rules restricts prosecutors from making extrajudicial statements that heighten public condemnation.
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Remember when Fannie Willis did that about Donald Trump and his defense lawyers, too, like spouting off about how race was at issue in this case?
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So I don't know how we spun from that into we're allowed to spew conspiracy theories about the case because the FBI is not saying anything.
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The rules are the same in all the cases, including this one.
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Tyler Robinson went in there, charged with aggravated murder, and felony use of a firearm, as well as other charges.
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And what they argued about yesterday was media rights in this case.
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And by the way, media rights in this case are extremely important, okay?
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Because neither the prosecution nor the defense are fighting for us to be in there.
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The prosecutor has acknowledged we may have a limited right.
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You're not going to keep the press out of this courtroom.
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Maybe you're going to succeed in keeping cameras out.
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But you're not going to keep the press out of this courtroom.
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And we will be documenting every word of this trial, no matter how badly the defense attorneys,
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who are really the ones pushing for it, want us out.
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And the people have every right to be in there to watch what happens in this case.
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So what's happening right now in that courtroom is a legal fight over whether the press is even going to be given notice of the hearings that concern the press's right to be present at the hearings on the trial of this case.
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They're not even sure we get to be there when they argue over our access rights.
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So we'll see what this Judge Graff rules, but right now he's keeping a very tight lid on even those arguments.
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And it's somewhat infuriating, as you can hear in my voice.
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There are issues of public access to this case that need to be protected.
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And if this judge rules that somehow the press must be excluded from anything other than sealed proceedings and things that must be kept under seal,
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There was an issue yesterday stemming from an October 24th hearing,
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which was closed to the public about courtroom security, media coverage, and Robinson's ability to wear civilian clothing.
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Media organizations yesterday wanted a transcript of that hearing.
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But attorneys for Robinson and for the state of Utah have proposed certain redactions to the transcript.
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An attorney for the Media Coalition, which is good.
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We have our own media attorney, Michael Judd, urged the judge to let the news organizations weigh in on any future requests that would limit our access.
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The defense also asked Judge Graff to ban cameras from the courtroom completely,
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citing a content tornado that could permanently devastate the jury pool.
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We have had jury pools overwhelmed with information about cases for years, ever since the dawn of court TV and of O.J. Simpson and so on.
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And we've managed it sometimes well, sometimes poorly, but we've managed it.
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There are ways of managing cameras in the courtroom.
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They were about to do this with Brian Kohlberger, who at that point was much more infamous than Tyler Robinson.
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And it was going to be managed with cameras in the courtroom, and it can be managed here as well.
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There are, let's see, there was an issue yesterday because the media inadvertently showed Tyler Robinson's shackles.
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And there's a question about whether that's going to taint the jury pool.
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It was inadvertent, but the jurors, the potential jurors, understand that the defendant is perceived as a potentially dangerous human
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because he's on trial for assassinating someone.
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Let's not pretend the glimpse at his shackles changed anybody's mind whatsoever about Tyler Robinson.
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For what it's worth, Erica Kirk has made clear she wants cameras in this courtroom.
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She points out cameras captured her husband's murder, and everyone has seen that video.
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There is a disturbing news item today out of KUTV, which is the local CBS station in Salt Lake City,
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that we are possibly missing, possibly, the surveillance video of Tyler Robinson turning himself in.
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Um, the media tried to get that video with a FOIA request.
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And apparently they were told that it may not be available.
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Like the, the standard response from the, um, sheriff's office was we do not have any records
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responsive to this portion of the request, uh, as Tyler Robinson did not go to or enter the jail area.
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They had asked for a jail area or holding area video of Robinson when he turned himself in.
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And that's what a records office with the sheriff's office told the media subpoenaing it or FOIAing
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A few weeks later, two news re-upped the request in a more generalized fashion, asking for surveillance
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video showing Tyler Robinson walking into Washington County Sheriff's office, just walking in.
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And the response came, our office does not have any applicable records responsive to this
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as surveillance footage, as the surveillance footage is no longer available after the 30
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When asked if the video was shared with any law enforcement or legal agency, the department
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responded, it is my understanding that it was never sent out to any agency.
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And that certainly makes it sound like they deleted this file.
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If it ever existed, a defense attorney, criminal defense attorney generic that two news asked
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about this out in Utah, a guy by the name of, um, Rudy Bautista, uh, defense attorney of
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26 years in Utah who works on capital cases said for the stake of, for the state of Utah, we
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If in fact, it's been destroyed and is not preserved, it's very concerning.
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And if it has, then it's very concerning that they're telling you they don't have it.
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If they no longer have it, I would expect, I would have expected them to say that the
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video has been provided to the Utah County law enforcement, but instead the letter leads
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in my opinion, uh, as reads, I think he means as trying to shut the door and not give you
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Video of Robinson turning himself in, he adds, would be crucial for the defense work of mitigation.
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So we'll see whether that actually winds up surfacing, but I agree it's disturbing if
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Um, another thing I wanted to tell you about, uh, the Daily Mail, take it with a grain of salt,
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but they are reporting that they had a new, a lip reader go in and try to lip read Tyler
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Uh, we don't know whether these are actually what he was saying, but he was talking a lot
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to his defense lawyers and they report that he allegedly told his attorney, Catherine Nestor,
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quote, I think about the shooting daily every morning, all the time, uh, that he then said,
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so he had a wife in reference to Kirk's widow, Erica, um, that he then said, just smoking a
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lot, talking about himself, not sleeping at night.
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He then allegedly said something about his mother, Amber, quote, my mother goes away to
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see friends, to be away from the media, which I think makes sense.
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He then allegedly said, what I would like to do is make it as easy as possible by answering
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So I'm not sure this is correct, but that for what it's worth is what this lip reader,
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um, someone named Nicola Hickling, who works, who runs, quote, lip reader service that does
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Those are the highlights of what he actually said.
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As I pointed out, he was in the courtroom smiling.
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I certainly hope he doesn't have reason to smile.
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I certainly hope he's not banking on people being confused about the overwhelming mountain
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Because let me tell you, those of us who are clear eyed on what is and is not admissible
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as proof, and that's really all we should be concerned with, see all evidence pointing
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My only question is who may have helped him and who may have known about it prior to his
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And I really hope that the prosecution has no problem making that case.
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Inside the courtroom, multiple law enforcement officers stood along the walls.
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Four of them wore camouflage, camouflage fatigues and SWAT gear, reports KUER, uh, local
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station, um, talked about the fight to ban the cameras and so on, the fight over the shackles.
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And the only issue that Judge Graff ruled on from the bench was clarifying his previous
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gag order, which restricts people involved in the case from making public statements outside
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They write, while roughly 3,000 people witnessed the killing of Charlie Kirk, Judge Graff said
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the only lay people under that gag are witnesses whom the prosecution or defense believes they
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And so that should excuse most of the people who witnessed Charlie's assassination, though
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And only they know, only the ones who have been contacted by law enforcement as potential
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You know, if I had been interviewed by law enforcement at this point, whether they said
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you're going to be a witness or not, if I had been interviewed by them, I would understand
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And that's to preserve the integrity of the trial.
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It really doesn't do the prosecution any good to have their witnesses out there talking.
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I'm not accusing anybody of having done this, but we've seen this in earlier cases, including
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OJ, where a critical witness who was going to be able to testify to seeing OJ drive away
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from Bundy, where Nicole Brown Simpson was murdered.
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She testified, she was ready to testify to seeing him drive away from the scene of the
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crime, had sold her story to the media between the crime and the date of trial.
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And she was rendered utterly useless to the prosecutor.
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And so the gag order for people who may actually be witnesses at trial does make some sense if
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you want to protect both the prosecution's right to a fair trial, although the right to a
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fair trial speaks chiefly to the defense and to the defendant's right to a fair trial.
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So if you've been interviewed by law enforcement or have reason to believe you're going to be
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called to trial, you really shouldn't be speaking to the media, which would encompass some public
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names who are now in the national debate, who are also under pressure to speak out, but
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know something in some cases that the rest of us don't know and are not free to fully talk
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Please keep that in mind as you assess what's happening in this case.
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My only hope is that I can be there in the room when they flip the switch and take his life.
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I want the death penalty handed down against him and anyone who helped him.
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And I will be gleeful on the day it is carried out.
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I honestly don't, I don't know how that squares with my Catholic faith, to be honest.
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We're not real pro the state killing people or humans taking other humans' lives, whether
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But we're, we are pro justice and the Bible does say an eye for an eye and there is no
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The deterrence I do believe requires the death penalty in the most heinous of cases.
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And I do believe it should be reserved for the most heinous of cases.
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And this is that, this is that Charlie was shot down in the prime of his life.
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He and Erica adored one another, lived for one another.
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Everything he's been cheated out of, everything those children were cheated out of, every happiness
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Erica has been cheated out of, everything the world, the country, a future president that
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He deserves to be put to death when he's convicted of this crime, which in my strong legal opinion,
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So that's where I am today, being reminded of the depravity of this so-called man, evil,
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I don't understand the guy who shot up the Ascension school in Minneapolis, who was drawing
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pictures of demons and looked to me to have been possessed by one.
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I don't think the earth suffers when they're eliminated.
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I don't, I certainly don't want to see him assassinated in prison.
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I'm fine if that happens to Brian Kohlberger for what it's worth.
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Like, I'll pray for forgiveness if forgiveness is in order, but that's where I am today,
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Let's keep going because I do have a guest here with me today and I want to talk to him.
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And I'm happy to welcome back stand-up comedian and commentator Dave Smith.
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Oh, these legal cases are just, they're awful, you know?
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And you're reminded of what happened to Charlie on the day, September 10th,
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I think for the past three months, the country writ large has still been reeling,
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And I think many of us who are right-wing or associated with the right-wing or just heterodox
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in our thinking, like I know you are, have not gotten over the additional threat to our
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I mean, even as I'm sitting here listening to your opening, which I think was spot on and
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Like, I just still can't believe where I, I have this thing, which I've had before when I've lost
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friends and family members, where I still find myself on some level going like, man,
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I can't wait to hear Charlie's take on all of this.
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Which I don't know, is like my own weird way of grappling with the inevitability or the
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But, you know, I, so I totally agree with everything you said there.
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You know, I would just, I would add that, look, the presumption of innocence isn't just
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It is the foundational principle of Western civilization.
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Like you, you could write the most perfect constitution ever, but if the government can
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accuse you of something and you're presumed guilty, you have no, you don't have one inch
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And so of course, you know, and then of course it should also be added that we're all friends.
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And so we, we would have to recuse ourselves, right?
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Like, you know, you're more of a legal expert than me, but we would not.
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So, so like there's this tremendous emotion that is impossible to completely remove from
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And then of course, now this is not a legal argument, but the crime of, of murdering
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Charlie Kirk is so much more than just the crime of, of murder.
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It's the highest profile political assassination of my lifetime.
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It's a crime against our cohesion, a crime against domestic tranquility.
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And so, and I also think, I don't know if there's a legal way that that can be accounted
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for, but that's part of the reason why you absolutely, you need to have cameras.
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You need this to be the most transparent trial because it's really is almost in some way,
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And then, you know, I think your point is really well taken that look, people jump to conclusions
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But like, even like you said, like the text messages, yes, that seemed odd to me too, but
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it all, it always, to me seemed like the obvious answer was what you said.
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It was like, uh, out of breaking bad, there's that scene where Walter White calls his wife
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in front of the cops and intentionally trying to get her off of the hook.
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And so there's just people connect dots sometimes when they shouldn't be connected.
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And of course the, the, we're going to have to wait till this trial before we get his
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defense and the prosecution's case, I would say though, that like the other factor here
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is just that, you know, this justice department lost all credibility, uh, over the Epstein
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I know there's just, you know, there's just like no way to undo that.
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This is like, it's like, it's like catching your spouse cheating on you.
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I mean, what the, the, the, I've never seen, uh, an issue mishandled more by any administration
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I don't, I don't think Joe Biden's senality was handled worse than, than this.
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I mean, between Pam Bondi having that, that stunt where she gave all these right wing influencers,
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the Epstein files saying they're sitting on her desk, turning around, then them trying
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to tell you it was a democratic hoax and it never existed.
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Then Mike Johnson saying it's a threat to our entire political order.
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If we release the files, then Trump turning around and releasing the files that he just
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And, and so after that, we're in the, and this, this, I think really is something like
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central to the state of where the United States of America is today.
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There is no more trust in institutions and there are bad aspects to that, but also that
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distrust was earned by the institutions themselves.
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I mean, just today and this week in the news, two of the biggest headlines are 10 children
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died immediately after getting the COVID vaccine, which we were told was safe for children and
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many schools made mandatory after the FDA blessed it and pushed it.
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And now today there's additional news about the extent of myocarditis that this thing is
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causing in adults and causing adults to drop dead, um, also now disclosed by an honest FDA under
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Martin McCary and Vinay Prasad, who was an early critic of not even critic, but just an honest
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That the distrust in government agencies, yes, goes well into public health and the DOJ and FBI
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even now, because to your point, what was the first big action that we saw this DOJ do?
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It was Pam Bondi needing to see herself on TV running around saying the files on my desk.
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You know, we're not going to read the actual videos, but let me trust me.
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There've been tens of thousands of him with like child pornography and then, oh, there's
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Dave, we're like, she fell on her sword and said, I misspoke.
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Let me tell you everything we actually do have.
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We were told to move on and it's, it's been very tough.
00:31:01.780
It's not, it's not the DOJ that's handling the Tyler Robinson criminal case.
00:31:06.020
It's the Utah state authorities about whom we know very little.
00:31:13.180
They haven't crossed me or the public in any way that comes to mind.
00:31:21.000
I was, I was more just getting at, you know, like cash Patel coming out and saying that we,
00:31:25.120
you know, uh, we, we recreated the letter that we found from him is just, I think like I'm in
00:31:30.460
the camp with the American people where it's just like, I don't trust a word you say.
00:31:33.920
Hey, that's where I'm at with this justice department.
00:31:37.480
But I think that like, look, even with say like to your point with the Epstein thing,
00:31:42.980
I know, um, I was there, we didn't see each other.
00:31:45.380
I think I was there the day after you, but at the, the, um, student action summit at Charlie
00:31:49.900
Kirk's last huge event for the one where he was killed, where you said like, someone was
00:31:54.000
like, Hey, if you had to guess, who would you say?
00:31:55.940
And you went, well, Israel intelligence does seem to be the most, so, okay.
00:31:59.500
Everyone wants to jump on you for, for speculating about that, even though you were acknowledging
00:32:03.700
that you're speculating, we don't know for sure.
00:32:08.240
So what was the relationship between Ehud Barak and, and Jeffrey Epstein then?
00:32:17.460
What, well, why is it that I just, I just learned.
00:32:21.120
I was just gonna say, maybe we should ask Benjamin Netanyahu, who, who is now tweeting
00:32:25.180
out articles saying Ehud Barak was, and Jeffrey Epstein were sharing intelligence that there
00:32:31.920
was an intelligence sharing arrangement between them.
00:32:33.860
So it's like, that's according to Netanyahu, but I was called an anti-Semite as I know you
00:32:38.240
have been countless times for saying, might've been Israel, might, might, could have been
00:32:42.820
And honestly, like what happened with you at that, at that student action summit, you debated
00:32:47.920
Josh Hammer, you were there having a debate with a, with a Zionist, with a big Israel defender.
00:32:55.460
But of course, yes, that was evidence that you're not allowed to discuss.
00:32:59.600
You can only have the one side and you can't ever say that Epstein might've been Israeli
00:33:03.180
intelligence, might've been American intelligence.
00:33:04.760
It's an asset of some sort because that's also anti-Semitic allegedly.
00:33:11.320
Like how many times have I caught you guys lying?
00:33:15.260
Benjamin Netanyahu has been lying to me for my entire life, telling me that Iran is five
00:33:20.760
years away from a nuclear weapon, trying to get my country into a war with Iran, which
00:33:24.560
he kind of succeeded in, in, in this last year, at least a little one.
00:33:27.940
It's like, I don't know you, you guaranteed when you testified before Congress in 2002,
00:33:34.020
your exact words were, I guarantee if you overthrow Saddam Hussein, positive reverberations
00:33:41.040
Like you lie slash get everything wrong and then expect me to rely on your word.
00:33:47.500
And, you know, for, for whatever, like, I know there's the, the spat between, um, Erica
00:33:54.500
And however anyone feels about any of that, um, you know, like I was friends with Charlie,
00:34:03.960
But one thing that you cannot take away from Candace Owens is that what she did expose is
00:34:09.760
that Josh Hammer and Bill Ackman and Benjamin Netanyahu lied through their teeth about Charlie
00:34:16.760
Kirk in the immediate wake of his murder during an active murder investigation, which like,
00:34:22.680
okay, you want to take any responsibility for, for why people might not believe, you know what
00:34:28.520
Like what, like, what is that going to lead to?
00:34:30.300
I mean, Josh Hammer, I mean, I just thought this was like.
00:34:33.280
Are you talking about the, uh, like the, uh, the, uh, uh, attempted intervention that
00:34:37.040
they did with Charlie prior to exactly what exactly happened in, in the Hamptons or what
00:34:42.860
exactly the intervention was like, I don't know that that's exactly been proven, but I
00:34:50.040
I debated him at Princeton university once and then, uh, there, and I, I did think he was
00:34:55.160
a real snake when I, we, we had like a totally nice conversation backstage.
00:34:59.360
Charlie had insisted over and over that this be like a good faith debate.
00:35:02.860
Me and Josh talked for like a half hour backstage about like family and kids and all this stuff.
00:35:08.700
And then he gets out there in his opening statement and he goes, I'm disgusted to be
00:35:14.900
And I was like, I was like, Whoa, I'm not surprised.
00:35:17.900
Can I tell you, I had Josh Hammer on this show repeatedly many times.
00:35:23.520
Like I've been defensive of Israel, not exactly Israel, but like of it's, if it's right to
00:35:28.240
defend itself, I haven't really been zeroing in on their tactics and all the news over
00:35:33.240
It's just not what our show does, but in general, supportive of Israel and definitely defensive
00:35:39.900
And, um, I had him on the show numerous times where we talked about those issues.
00:35:44.180
I promoted his very crappy podcast for him many times.
00:35:48.180
And then after literally I said nothing antisemitic, even arguably antisemitic, he was out, he was
00:35:58.240
But so like, yeah, like to me, that's snake behavior.
00:36:00.720
Like if I was going to go on stage and say, I'm disgusted to be on here with you, I guarantee
00:36:05.420
you, I'd have that energy in the green room with you too.
00:36:07.800
To me, like just as a man, that's just how you conduct yourself.
00:36:10.760
But my point is, so initially Candace made the accusation that Jewish donors were pulling
00:36:17.420
money from Charlie Kirk over platforming Tucker and you and me.
00:36:21.080
And that Charlie was so mad that he was getting ready to turn on Israel and Josh Hammer and
00:36:31.720
Like, I'm sorry, but you just, that is a, it is a, and by the way, Josh Hammer in every
00:36:36.760
interview while he was saying that just kept saying how much Charlie Kirk loved his book.
00:36:40.980
It's like the weirdest thing to say about your friend right after they died.
00:36:44.820
Like, imagine it was like that, that was my, you know, Charlie always told me how great
00:36:48.820
my podcast was and you really got to listen to it.
00:36:51.040
And you can check it out and settle for more on amazon.com.
00:36:54.820
Like, I mean, and then Benjamin Netanyahu decides to read from this letter and quote, only like
00:37:01.280
three sentences where Charlie's talking about how much he loves Israel.
00:37:04.300
And he omits that the entire letter was Charlie going, we're getting killed out here.
00:37:10.320
I don't have counter arguments to what these, this Hasbro stuff isn't working anymore.
00:37:19.900
And so I just like, I'm kind of just disgusted by all of that.
00:37:24.040
I just, I can't imagine like a friend of yours who, um, like just got publicly executed
00:37:31.680
It's the biggest profile, the highest profile political assassination of our lifetime during
00:37:44.880
I mean, I said this yesterday, I'll say it again today.
00:37:47.640
I do have thoughts on what's happening now between Candace and Erica, and I will be sharing
00:37:52.680
And I have a very good reason for not sharing them yet, which will become very apparent to
00:37:58.300
Um, but putting a pin in that for my audience and me.
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Um, okay, let's keep going because there are a couple interested now.
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The Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released photos from Jeffrey Epstein's estate.
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And we had some pictures already, and here's some.
00:42:10.520
There are some that show Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Steve Bannon, Bill Gates, and others.
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None of the released images depicts any sexual misconduct.
00:42:22.540
It was not immediately clear when or where they were taken or by whom.
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This image, I haven't seen it, I'm seeing it with you for the first time,
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shows what appears to be a bowl of novelty condoms and a caricature of Trump's face.
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The bowl has a sign that reads, Trump condom, $4.50.
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Each condom bears an image of Trump's face with the text, I'm huge.
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It's just like being dropped out, like, I guess, Trump, Trump and condoms.
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Another shows Trump with six women wearing Hawaiian leis,
00:42:59.100
whose faces have been redacted by the committee.
00:43:01.820
Okay, no one's shocked to see Donald Trump with attractive young women.
00:43:05.580
It's kind of been something he's done his whole life.
00:43:08.420
Others include Steve Bannon and Epstein taking a photograph in a mirror.
00:43:14.780
Surprise Steve Bannon and Jeffrey Epstein were a lot closer than we knew.
00:43:18.680
This show disclosed that weeks ago, months ago, a month ago,
00:43:25.180
where we talked about the tapes we had heard in which Epstein was being coached
00:43:30.700
by Melissa Rumler, the former Obama White House counsel, and Steve Bannon,
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and how to handle his growing reputational and legal problems
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Bill Clinton with Epstein and Maxwell and another couple.
00:43:46.660
Tech billionaire Bill Gates with the former Prince Andrew.
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Prince Andrew's like the Waldo of the Jeffrey Epstein world.
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Former Harvard President Larry Summers and lawyer Alan Dershowitz
00:43:59.260
Of course, we know that Alan represented Epstein, getting him that sweetheart deal.
00:44:03.420
Last but not least, House Democrat Oversight tweet on the photos released.
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Oversight Dems received 95,000 new photos from Epstein's estate.
00:44:10.660
These disturbing images raise even more questions about Epstein
00:44:13.420
and his relationships with some of the most powerful men in the world.
00:44:20.200
So what's your take on where we stand now and what's been released on Epstein,
00:44:24.800
And even that law that Trump signed commanding the release has enough exceptions in it,
00:44:35.760
Well, look, it's just, it's one of these things where it's just on the face of it.
00:44:42.440
Look, I mean, they're saying, like, that the files have to be redacted for national security reasons.
00:44:48.580
Mike Johnson is saying that it would threaten the entire political order if it was released.
00:45:01.420
And, you know, to the point that you were making before,
00:45:04.460
one of the major things about, say, like the story about Moderna covering up,
00:45:11.360
that Alex Berenson broke about Moderna covering up one of the dead kids in their trials,
00:45:16.900
and the other 10 that died, which was separate from that one,
00:45:20.260
is that we all sit here and go, you lied through your teeth to us,
00:45:23.800
you censored us when we tried to tell the truth,
00:45:25.800
and no one's going to be held responsible for this.
00:45:30.100
Very similar thing, by the way, which just kind of seems to go unnoticed,
00:45:32.820
that several months back, the director of national intelligence in what,
00:45:37.100
I know there's a lot of crazy things that go on these days,
00:45:39.140
but this seemed like a pretty big deal to me, Megan.
00:45:41.960
Pretty big deal that the director of national intelligence
00:45:44.700
accused the former president, Barack Obama, of committing treason,
00:45:49.240
says she has the proof, and she's sending it over to the Justice Department.
00:45:56.940
We all know no one's getting held responsible for Russiagate or any of that.
00:46:00.100
I mean, even like, you know, even the Comey case,
00:46:06.540
that he's not going to face any justice over all the crimes he committed.
00:46:09.920
John Bolton may be actually caught with mishandling some classified information,
00:46:13.020
but that's separate from the major crimes that have been committed.
00:46:20.340
essentially when your whole central political promise was to drain the swamp,
00:46:25.640
like, this is, you know, I've just never seen anything like this.
00:46:28.580
Like, where Donald Trump had so much momentum a year ago
00:46:32.220
and seems to have squandered all of it at this point.
00:46:35.200
And now we're worried about, like, the Dems charging back in
00:46:41.400
And so anyway, I guess, you know, I guess, like, looking at these pictures,
00:46:45.160
no, do they really reveal anything that we didn't kind of already know?
00:46:51.540
Donald Trump, look, a lot of people, myself included,
00:46:54.700
have a soft spot for Donald Trump because he came along as a wrecking ball.
00:46:58.420
He came along as a giant middle finger to the D.C. elite
00:47:02.340
who had done nothing short of destroy the United States of America.
00:47:09.040
Provide, oh, they presided, excuse me, over the United States of America,
00:47:13.700
the strongest, most powerful, most economically advanced country
00:47:26.420
a debased currency, you know, just like so much awful.
00:47:34.400
But if we're really being honest with ourselves here,
00:47:39.260
And like, you know, there's, he's cheating on his pregnant wife
00:47:50.760
You have to say, you're the reporter and the lawyer.
00:47:57.660
there's a videotape of him talking about how Jeffrey Epstein loves the women
00:48:03.080
And also there were just, with guys, as you know, Megan, right?
00:48:09.660
they did come up in a different time where like,
00:48:13.340
There was just a different attitude about very young girls.
00:48:18.380
Cause like in my generation, we're not like that.
00:48:24.500
you know, like there's that song Into the Night,
00:48:49.420
but every year does make it better at that age.
00:48:52.740
The internet's going to call you a pedophile defender.
00:48:59.880
For the record, no one on this set has said that either.
00:49:04.100
I mean, but I'm just saying like they're actually,
00:49:10.960
there's something really disgusting going on here,
00:49:17.500
Like I've seen Alan Dershowitz make the defense before
00:49:24.700
and everyone has the right to a defense attorney.
00:49:33.060
then there's the comment about like he kept his underwear on
00:49:38.860
oh, you're actually working with Jeffrey Epstein
00:49:41.280
to try to silence the Israel lobby from being published.
00:49:46.500
Well, hey, that's not just being the guy's lawyer anymore.
00:49:49.420
Now you're in a position where you're working with a guy
00:49:55.940
to try to do damage control on a story that's bad.
00:50:07.000
The only reason I ask is Alan has said in his defense
00:50:13.360
when he thought it was a much more limited field of crimes
00:50:17.540
and that he does have a policy of not defending
00:50:29.400
Forgive me if I haven't articulated it exactly right,
00:50:33.700
because I'm just thinking of when the Israel lobby came out.
00:50:43.260
Steve is telling me he said it happened in 2006,
00:50:51.340
But still, it does at least indicate that like,
00:51:04.040
in their interpretation of whether you're a good person or not
00:51:21.860
I was completely opposed to US supporting the war
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I was completely opposed to Joe Biden's open immigration.
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You are evil if you're not on the same page with them
00:53:01.200
Literally, it was like the pro-Israel coalition,
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