Megyn Kelly's Instant Analysis of Pete Hegseth Hearing and Dem Absurdity, with Michael Knowles, Dakota Meyer, and Rob O'Neill ｜ Ep. 982
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Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearing in Washington, D.C. on Wednesday. Megyn and her co-hosts, Rob O'Neill, Dakota Meyer and Michael Knowles, give their thoughts on the hearings.
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Where we just attended the Senate confirmation hearing of Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth.
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We're going to be joined in a second by Rob O'Neill and Dakota Meyer, Medal of Honor winner, in just a bit.
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And Michael Knowles will be here to kick things off in two seconds.
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But first, just want to give you my overall thoughts.
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I have zero doubts now that he will be confirmed.
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She was very nice in her questioning of him, very respectful.
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And, you know, this is just the Senate Armed Services Committee.
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But, like, she was the big pivotal vote, even if Trump is going to lose potentially McConnell, potentially Murkowski and Collins, which now they're saying he might not.
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I don't, I don't think Pete Hegseth has trouble.
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And really, to me, the story of the day was how some of these Democrat senators embarrassed themselves trying to.
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Why do the women have to be, like, these hysterical fools?
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I mean, Tim Kaine was the worst, I should say that up front.
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Christian Gillibrand was like, women can be in combat.
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You are undermining the very cause that I know you so desperately want to promote right now.
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I was embarrassed for my sex and how they are behaving today.
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Then there was Slotkin, who's the newest Democrat over on the left side.
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And while her background sounded impressive, she'd been with the CIA and so on.
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Okay, you've done your genuflection to Donald Trump.
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Like, everyone was just, there's a way of doing cross-examination where you don't wind up the least likable between the person you're crossing and yourself.
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And obviously, these people, most of them, haven't done it.
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You know, like, you see a Trey Gowdy cross-examination.
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You're like, are you trying to make me hate you?
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Like, I'm not inclined to hate you just because you're a dem or against Pete.
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Anyway, before I bring in Michael, I just want to say, so I went there today.
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I've never gone to a Senate confirmation hearing as, like, a regular person as opposed to as a member of the press.
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I did it because the Hegseths invited me, and I said, you know what, this would be a great experience for me for a couple of reasons.
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Number one, I do support Pete Hegseth and am very happy to telegraph to the world that I do and that I hope he gets through.
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And if my sitting there in any way telegraphs to people who need it to be telegraphed, that it would be a good thing to support him and that I think the allegations against him are bullshit, great.
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But number two, I did think it would be a fascinating experience for me, too, having been on the other side so many times, not as a senator, but as a member of the media, just covering these things to see what it's like to be in the middle of it all.
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For the most part, it was like, oh, especially these Democrat senators who just want to hear themselves talk.
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You know, the Republicans actually asked him questions that would help us get to know him a bit.
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The Dems, for the most part, just grandstanded.
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It doesn't really make you want to run out and run for Senate.
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So Chris Murphy of Connecticut, you should be feeling good because I'm less inclined to take your job now.
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But when I decide to take it, it will be mine because you're a disaster.
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Anywho, it was just did we really learn anything or was it all just like an exercise in preening?
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Mostly on the Dem side and the Republicans in earnest trying to search for some answers on what Pete's going to do inside defense.
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And one top Democrat senator told me he thought that this was going to be the toughest hearing for Trump's nominees, like worse than RFKJ, worse than Tulsi.
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Michael Knowles, did any one of these senators jump out to you more than another?
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They all jumped out of the screen at me and made me turn down my earpieces because of how shrill and awful they were.
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But in terms of impressing me in their questioning, absolutely not.
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Pete did even better than I thought he would do.
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As you say, Megan, they didn't lay a glove on him.
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Pete Hegseth will be the next secretary of defense.
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People had questions about Pete's qualifications for the Pentagon going in.
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I don't think people really have questions about that right now.
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I think, in fact, the result of this hearing is that people have questions about the qualifications of these Democrat senators.
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And many people were suggesting he would be one of the more difficult.
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Notice, though, how these hearings have been scheduled.
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And then all the rest of them, today, tomorrow, Thursday, were relatively easy.
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These are kind of shoo-in people in terms of Tulsi, in terms of Bobby Kennedy, in terms of Kash Patel.
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Some of the more controversial nominees, you'll notice that they were pushed a little bit later in the process.
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I think Pete Hegseth was the canary in the coal mine.
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I think that the Trump team wanted to see how much pushback they would get from the U.S. senators.
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It was a complete strike down the bowling alley.
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So not only does this bode very well for Pete, not only does this bode very well for the shoo-in nominees that Trump has coming up,
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but I think even the more controversial ones are going to make it through a major, major win for the Trump transition.
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There wasn't anything more disgusting today than Tim Kaine.
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Tim Kaine, who literally pulled out the old, how long have you been beating your wife?
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We know that Pete has been a serial cheater on his wives.
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You could go with the anonymous, you know, the alleged rape accuser.
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It was telling that pretty much nobody really zeroed in too much on that one.
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But how long have you been beating your wife is defamatory.
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Not literally, because you can't sue senators for what they're saying in this context.
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But my point is, that was so below the belt for Tim Kaine.
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Let's just take a listen to some of Tim Kaine today.
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At that time, you were still married to your second wife, correct?
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And you had just fathered a child by a woman who would later become your third wife, correct?
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So you think you are completely cleared because you committed no crime.
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You had just fathered a child two months before by a woman that was not your wife.
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I am shocked that you would stand here and say you're completely cleared.
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Senator, her child's name is Gwendolyn Hope Hegseth.
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And you cheated on the mother of that child less than two months after that daughter was born, didn't you?
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It was fully investigated and I was completely cleared.
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And I am so grateful for the marriage I have to this amazing woman behind me.
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You've admitted that you had sex at that hotel in October 2017.
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Now, if it had been a sexual assault, that would be disqualifying to be Secretary of Defense, wouldn't it?
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It was a false claim then and a false claim now.
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If it had been a sexual assault, that would be disqualifying to be Secretary of Defense, wouldn't it?
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So you can't tell me whether someone who has committed a sexual assault is disqualified from being Secretary of Defense?
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Senator, I know in my instance, and I'm talking about my instance only, it was a false claim.
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But I assume that in each of your weddings, you've pledged to be faithful to your wife.
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Senator, as I've acknowledged to everyone in this committee, I'm not a perfect person, not claiming to be.
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You've taken an oath like you would take an oath to be Secretary of Defense in all of your weddings to be faithful to your wife.
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I have failed in things in my life, and thankfully, I'm redeemed by my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
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I will get to the domestic violence accusation in a second because that was the wrong soundbite, but it is a relevant soundbite that we want to get to.
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So, this guy with his holier-than-thou on the cheating allegations and what he did was Hillary Clinton's running mate.
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So, this man was fine with Bill Clinton, right?
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This man who wants us to believe any extramarital activity is abhorrent to him, he's disgusted by it, that's the same Tim Kaine, right?
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We're talking about the same Bill Clinton, no problem, fine, but as president, right, or Hillary too, but this is a bridge too far, Pete Hegseth, even after he's admitted to being unfaithful in his marriages and then getting on the straight and narrow.
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This is the guy, look at him, look at him, with his head on Bill Clinton's shoulder.
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Accused by sexual assault or rape by how many women, how many affairs has he had on Hillary Clinton, and he wants to get out there and lecture us on Pete Hegseth, Michael Knowles.
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It was a complete joke, so it was fitting that Tim Kaine looked like Jack Nicholson's Joker from the Tim Burton Batman.
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Someone needed to hand that man a comb before he walked into the hearings, and he goes there with that wild look on his face, and he says,
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you think you're cleared just because you were cleared of charges against you?
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To which Pete Hegseth should, he didn't say anything, he just said, yeah, that's literally what it means, Senator.
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But then he goes on, as you say, he's preening about this.
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This is a man that we've only ever heard of because of his political alliance with the Clintons.
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This is also a man who voted in federal law to abolish the definition of marriage.
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So, listen, I'm gratified that Tim Kaine has had this sudden change of heart, and he now takes so seriously the sanctity of marriage.
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His attack on Pete Hegseth's personal life was by far the strongest of any of the similar attempted attacks from the other Democrat senators.
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And the fact that Kaine's was the strongest shows you just how weak it was.
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But the rest of them, Elizabeth Warren, Gillibrand, for goodness sakes, Maisie Hirono, they didn't even come close.
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And so I'm actually surprised because knowing that Pete's was going to be the first confirmation hearing, the canary in the coal mine,
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I expected the Democrats to make this Kavanaugh 2.0.
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However, Pete Hegseth had a real advantage going into this hearing, which is that people thought, because he's a good-looking guy who smiles well and did a morning TV show,
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people thought that this guy was kind of dumb or incompetent.
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And they failed to look at his resume, which kept coming up today, to realize he's extremely educated.
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He's been under fire, literally, on many occasions, and he was not going to be pushed around by Kristen Gillibrand or Elizabeth Warren or certainly not Tim Kaine.
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It looked, from the perspective of Pete, it looked like he was shooting fish in a barrel.
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I just want to say one more thing about Tim Kaine.
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So first of all, not only was he running for office with Hillary Clinton, he was totally fine with Clinton's behavior.
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But he was campaigning with Doug Emhoff after the allegations against Doug Emhoff about banging the nanny while still married to his first wife,
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allegedly impregnating said nanny, and then she lost the baby somehow, and abusing some other girlfriend by slamming her in the face.
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That's no, but Pete Hegseth is a disgusting dirtbag who little Tim Kaine can't stand.
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This is like how it just oozed out of my, like you're, you're watching it.
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You're like, disdain is oozing out of my pores.
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Like I have to tell you, Michael, it's very hard, especially for someone in my position or your position to sit in there and not stand up and start answering the questions.
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And then I've got to get to point number two on Tim Kaine.
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I know the allegations against Pete backward and forward.
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I did a comprehensive interview with the guy where we went over every single one.
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And the nerve of Tim Kaine to come out there and throw it out there.
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Did you ever engage in any acts of physical violence against any of your wives?
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But you would agree with me that if someone had committed physical violence against a spouse, that would be disqualifying to serve as Secretary of Defense, correct?
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You would agree that that would be a disqualifying offense, would you not?
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And if you as a leader are not capable of saying that physical violence against a spouse should be a disqualifying fact for being secretary of the most powerful nation in the world, you're demonstrating an astonishing lack of judgment.
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He didn't seem to care about Doug Emhoff's violence against women, which actually is backed up by a whole report by an attorney who was his girlfriend, who she filed it anonymously, but she filed it in the Daily Mail.
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This is just a blatant character assassination attempt.
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Megan, is it wrong that I'm most scandalized in that stupid question by the inability of a sitting U.S. senator to know what a hypothetical is?
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Tim Kaine said, if such and such occurred, that would be disqualifying, right?
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And Pete rightly said, Senator, you're asking me to engage in a hypothetical.
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And Tim Kaine, with this unearned haughtiness, says, I don't think that's a hypothetical.
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You know, this is supposed to be the greatest deliberative body in the world.
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These people have a loose grasp on the English language.
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No serious country would ever have Maisie Hirono as a senator.
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Have you ever faced discipline or entered into a settlement relating to this kind of conduct?
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Senator, I was falsely accused in October of 2017.
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It was fully investigated and I was completely cleared.
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Will you resign as secretary of defense if you drink on the job, which is a 24-7 position?
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I've made this commitment on behalf of the men and women I'm serving.
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I'm not hearing an answer to my question, so I'm going to move on.
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Would you carry out an order to shoot protesters in the legs?
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I saw 50 secret service agents get injured by rioters trying to jump over the fence,
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set the church on fire, and destroy the statue.
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That sounds to me that you will comply with such an order.
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Would you use our military to take over Greenland or an ally of Denmark?
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Senator, one of the things that President Trump is so good at is never strategically tipping his hand.
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And so I would never in this public forum give one way or another direct what orders the president would give me in any context.
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That sounds to me that you would contemplate carrying out such an order to basically invade Greenland and take over the Panama Canal.
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It is one of my absolute favorite places on earth.
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I'm beginning to think we might have made a mistake in 1959.
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Denmark gets Hawaii, they get Maisie Hirono, and we get Greenland.
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She was just so – she thought she was scoring points.
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You know, you could kind of feel that she was like, yeah, I got him again.
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But, I mean, honestly, I don't want to choose, like, the worst woman.
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First of all, she looks like she's aged 30 years in the past four.
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Like, I looked around, and she looked like a woman in her mid-40s the last time I looked at her.
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And then from afar, I was like, she looks like an elderly woman over there.
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I'm just saying, like, I think the job has been a lot for her.
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We have hundreds, hundreds of women who are currently in the infantry, lethal members of our military serving in the infantry.
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You say, we need moms, but not in the military, especially in combat units.
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So please explain these types of statements, because they're brutal and they're mean.
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And I would point out I have never disparaged women serving in the military.
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I respect every single female service member that has put on the uniform past and present.
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My critiques, Senator, recently and in the past, and from personal experience, have been instances where I've seen standards lowered.
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So just, you cannot denigrate women in general, and your statements do that.
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We don't want women in the military, especially in combat.
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Everything you've said in these public statements is politics.
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Once you have babies, you therefore are no longer able to be lethal, because I don't want you thinking, can't serve if you're a mom, can't serve if you're LGBTQ, and then last, can't serve if you're a leftist.
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I think that Kirsten Gillibrand began her line of questioning trying to persuade people that women do belong in combat.
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And I think by the end of it, she had people wondering if women belong in the United States Senate.
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I think we need Senator Megyn Kelly to go restore the reputation of women in the deliberative body.
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They, you know, on this show, sometimes I have a temper, I'll get out, whatever.
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If I were in the Senate, trust me, I would be composed, and I would be able to make my points without getting hysterical.
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At one point, she says, your comments are so hurtful.
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So you're saying the female warfighters' feelings are hurt?
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Do you see how you're undermining your own point, madam?
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Like, are they warfighters who can go in there and take, you know, bullets?
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Or are they like weepy little schoolgirls who, Pete, you know, hurt their feelings and they need a public apology?
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Even to raise this point of women who are in the military, who are mothers, that maybe it's not the best idea to go send our mothers out there to go catch bullets from jihadis.
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Maybe there's something a little weird about that.
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You know, it's so disingenuous, the objections that she's making.
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Because when it comes to all of these questions, until very, very recently, we didn't have women in combat.
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Everyone agreed, Republicans, Democrats, independents, women should not be in combat catching bullets from terrorists.
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Until very, very recently, we all agreed men who think that they're women don't belong in the military.
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They belong in counseling because there's something that's gone wrong in their heads.
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Until very, very recently, we all agreed that DEI and all other forms of political correctness and methods of promotion that are not based on lethality and merit have no place in the military.
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Everyone agreed with that until the Obama administration, basically.
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And so to suggest now that to want to rewind the clock back to those long ago days of, what, 2013 or something, that that is somehow regressive and beyond the pale.
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I mean, this is the kind of radicalism that the American people rejected at the ballot box in November.
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And I don't think the mood has changed between that time and Kristen Gillibrand's shrill line of questioning.
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I loved how Senator Wicker was the chair and he did a great job.
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He's like, no, you're not getting a second round of questioning.
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We're going to run this the same way we ran the last two when the Dems were in charge.
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And then you've got the ranking member, Jack Reed, who was making all sorts of points.
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He was trying to score against Pete, but this is how he would do it.
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I want to say the following terrible things about Pete.
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I'd have to follow the terrible things about Pete.
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He got so far away from the microphone every time he spoke, you couldn't hear him at all.
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His staff put a note in front of him saying, get in front of the microphone.
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He listened to it one time and for the rest of the time he was like, and another thing about Pete Heggs is, I want you to know this.
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It was better for the Democrats that people not hear their ridiculous arguments.
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You know, on this point of rhetoric and oratory and showmanship, this was the point.
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I forget which Democrat senator raised it about Pete Heggseth.
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I think it might have been Mark Kelly who said, look, I'd vote for you for Pentagon spokesman, but I'm not voting for you to be the head of the Pentagon because, you know, you're just a smooth talker basically.
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He just also happens to be a good communicator.
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He's a guy who has multiple degrees from very prestigious institutions, who has served in combat, who has led troops, who has fought for veterans, who has gotten legislation advanced.
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Oh, and he also happens to be a good communicator.
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You know, the U.S. senators don't even know how to use a microphone.
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Maybe it would be good in an era when the American people so distrust our institutions to have a guy who is competent, intelligent, educated, right minded and also able to speak to people in a persuasive way, as he did during his confirmation hearings.
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How great was it when Senator Mullen of Oklahoma took the mic and got up there and just unleashed on everybody on the other side?
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I think it's so hypocritical of senators, especially on the other side of the aisle, be talking about his qualifications, not going to lead the secretary or be the secretary of defense.
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Your own secretary that you all voted for, Secretary Austin, we had to vote on a waiver because he stepped off the board of Raytheon.
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But I guess that's OK, because that's a Democrat secretary of defense.
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The senator from Virginia starts bringing up the fact that what if you showed up drunk to your job?
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How many senators have showed up drunk to vote at night?
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Have any of you guys asked them to step down and resign for their job?
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And don't tell me you haven't seen it because I know you have.
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And then how many senators do you know have got a divorce before cheating on their wives?
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You guys, make sure you make a big show and point out the hypocrisy because the man's made a mistake.
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Tim Kaine doesn't say boo because everything that Senator Mullen said was obviously true.
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This is not even the sort of thing that only the senators know about.
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Anybody who's ever spent any time around Capitol Hill knows this.
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The percentage of senators who sleep with staff members or lobbyists or or members of the media is pretty significant.
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And and the number of senators who show up to Voterama, maybe they've had a few drinks.
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And that's why all of those Democrat senators were dead silent.
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You know, he was great because they were puffing themselves up so much as these arbiters of morality.
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These are the kinds of people who support murdering babies and castrating little children.
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But all of a sudden they have such moral authority.
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They're going to castigate Pete Hegseth, a man who has quite clearly turned his life around.
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He says, hey, guys, I'd like to enter into the record.
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One of the thing they were like, how many people did you manage at Concerned Veterans for America?
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How many people did you manage at Vets for Freedom?
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And he was like, you know, maybe eight to ten, eight to ten, eight to ten.
00:30:09.760
And you're going to manage all these people at the Department of Defense.
00:30:13.240
And he finally said, you know, I'm going to work for a CEO who is extremely successful.
00:30:16.920
How many people had Barack Obama managed before they made him president?
00:30:35.100
He worked like a summer at Sidley in Austin, I think.
00:30:39.220
And then he decided to be a community organizer, becoming an activist.
00:30:45.560
Pete Hegseth on the battlefield as a major commanded far more people in advance of this role than Barack Obama ever did.
00:30:57.180
The nerve of these people, Michael Knowles, I'll give you the last word.
00:31:00.460
I loved the correction when the chairman said, I'd just like to point out that Pete Hegseth has managed many more, many more people than the average United States senator.
00:31:08.120
These people who sat in judgment of Pete today were had absolutely no credibility to attack him.
00:31:17.020
Pete Hegseth is going to be the secretary of defense.
00:31:19.600
And the rest of Trump's nominees are going to have a much easier time because of it.
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All right, coming up next, Dakota Meyer and Rob O'Neill, those warfighters that we were hearing so much about today from Pete and others, they'll respond to what they saw.
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I want to get more reaction now to Pete Hegseth's confirmation hearing from two men who know exactly
00:35:44.280
what we need in a Secretary of Defense. Dakota Meyer, an Iraq and Afghanistan war veteran who
00:35:49.960
became the first living Marine in over 40 years to receive the Medal of Honor in 2011, along with Rob
00:35:56.440
O'Neill, a U.S. Navy SEAL veteran who participated in over 400 combat operations, including the raid
00:36:02.640
that killed bin Laden. He's the man who did it. He's now the host of The Operator podcast. Guys,
00:36:09.460
great to see you again. How are you doing? Good. Doing well, Megan. Thanks for having us.
00:36:14.180
Oh, my gosh. I'm dying to hear your reaction to what we saw today. Rob, let me start with you,
00:36:20.060
because it really was like these senators who most of whom they don't like they're happy to send you
00:36:27.200
to into war while they sit in these air conditioned offices. But when they get an actual war fighter in
00:36:33.600
front of them, they treat him like he's the gum on the bottom of their shoe.
00:36:39.200
Yeah, Megan, it's crazy. My my initial reaction was Senator Blumenthal, who I can't believe shows his
00:36:45.500
face in that committee because he lied about Vietnam the entire time. He's been lying about
00:36:49.560
Vietnam since he didn't fight there. And then he finally got busted, had to come out and say,
00:36:53.460
you know, I apologize for misspeaking. There's a huge difference between fighting in Vietnam with
00:36:57.680
real Marines and misspeaking and lying. And so he's up there doing that. We didn't mention that.
00:37:02.560
I love how high and mighty they all get. They're not mentioning Senator Ben Cardin had a staffer who had
00:37:07.160
gay sex in the Judiciary Committee room, filmed it. No big deal. And then even as far as I love how
00:37:14.760
how Senator Mullen from Oklahoma said, you know, they come in drunk. I've seen you come in drunk.
00:37:21.400
It's almost like there's some Senate like the Democrats are playing their the cards they play
00:37:26.200
and their, you know, their sentences that they don't their questions they don't want answered.
00:37:29.240
But now all of a sudden you turn the light on and the roaches just scatter. It's I mean, it was it
00:37:33.540
was Pete did a great job. But I think Democrats look horrible. Yeah, here's Dick Blumenthal of Connecticut
00:37:40.520
trying to get trying to get it was a gotcha against Pete on exactly what numbers are in
00:37:45.660
which branches of the military. Watch. Mr. Hexeth, I'm asking you a very simple question.
00:37:52.440
How many men and women currently serve in the United States Army? Senator, the United States Army,
00:37:58.000
450,000 on active duty, sir. And how many in the Navy? And the Navy is 425, sir.
00:38:05.540
Well, it's 337 this year. How many in the Marine Corps? 175,000, sir. 172,300. Those numbers dwarf
00:38:17.520
any experience you had by many multiples. I don't believe that you can tell this committee or the
00:38:28.280
people of America that you are qualified to lead them. I would support you as the spokesperson for
00:38:40.140
Oh, so rude, Dakota. What did you make of that?
00:38:44.480
I mean, look, I think that I mean, I watched the whole thing and it just it blew my mind. First off,
00:38:50.160
that the leaders of the policymakers, lawmakers of this country, that these were the priorities that
00:38:56.340
they were focused on, on someone who is about to go and and be in charge of the force that not only
00:39:02.180
maintains and secures the United States national security, but but also really is is is the the
00:39:09.360
the the stabilization of the globe. And right. And these were the questions that they wanted to ask
00:39:14.040
the ha ha gotcha. They use these these moments right now in this confirmation hearing to sit here
00:39:19.820
and focus on, you know, the same thing over and over about just trying to ha ha gotcha. And, you know,
00:39:24.780
the thing when I watch Pete there, it's like, you know, one side of it, I'm sitting back and I'm
00:39:29.360
like, well, say this, you know, from my point, but it's like he knows the game, right? He's sitting
00:39:35.720
there. He knows that no matter what he says, he's got to get through this. And he's got to limit
00:39:39.340
exposure. Right. And and that's the problem with the with all of this is like, there is no
00:39:43.960
accountability for them sitting up there on on that in that position. There's no accountability for
00:39:49.480
the lawmakers. There's no accountability for any of them up there. But they want to turn around.
00:39:52.300
They want to critique this man over and over, which was rightfully so. Look, I think we have
00:39:56.840
to to sit here and vet and we have to make sure that that, you know, these people are going to
00:40:00.580
uphold the policies and they're going to support the Constitution of the United States. And I,
00:40:04.580
you know, we want to hear his views on what he's going to do about, you know, the issues that are
00:40:08.780
truly, you know, threatening the United States of America. But like to sit here and make this out,
00:40:14.600
it just shows you that the priority of the security of the United States of America is not the
00:40:19.300
priority of the left right now. Mm hmm. It was pretty remarkable when Pete got there. He had
00:40:24.140
the support of the crowd. In fact, some Democrats were saying they'd never seen the hearing room like
00:40:28.840
this, that they were stunned at the number of people who showed up to support Pete. And when Pete
00:40:33.860
walked in, they start, they broke out in chants of USA. Here's a little bit of that in SOT 1.
00:40:53.860
And one of the most interesting things, Rob, was when they were trying to cross-examine him,
00:40:57.820
a couple did, but Jack Reed, the ranking dem in particular, on whether he thinks we should follow
00:41:03.760
the Geneva Convention. And Pete was trying to say, look, my criticisms have been, you've got these
00:41:08.560
people in, you know, another land who come up with these rules, but warfighters on the ground
00:41:13.120
get conflicting messages, especially in today's modern military, where they're fighting against
00:41:17.940
insurgents. And they need better guidance on exactly what they're allowed to do, what they're not
00:41:23.460
allowed to do. Here's something akin to that exchange in SOT 13. Your definition of lethality
00:41:30.920
seems to embrace those people who do commit law crimes, rather than those who stand up and say,
00:41:37.340
this is not right. So what's the response to your service members who personally witnessed these and
00:41:44.080
took courageously reported them to their superiors? Senator, as someone who's led men in combat
00:41:51.980
directly and had to make very difficult decisions, I've thought very deeply about the balance between
00:41:58.300
legality and lethality. Sir, I'm talking about restrictive rules of engagement that these men and
00:42:03.800
women behind me understand they've lived with on the battlefield, which has made it more difficult
00:42:09.160
to defeat our enemies. In many of the cases you're talking about in particular, sir, there was evidence
00:42:14.600
withheld, there was prosecutorial misconduct. And as someone who looks case by case and defaults
00:42:21.160
to the warfighter, to the men and women with dust on their boots, not the second-guessers in air
00:42:26.280
conditioned offices in Washington, D.C. I look case by case and was proud to work with President Trump
00:42:31.920
to understand those cases and ensure that our warriors are always looked out for.
00:42:40.640
Well, I think that the rules of engagement have a tendency to get way too strict, especially
00:42:46.320
the longer we make a war last. And, you know, the Geneva Convention was one thing, but things
00:42:51.580
change. And then everything, I mean, I've seen everything from NCIS, which by the way, the worst
00:42:56.340
thing that ever happened is they made a TV show making those guys look cool. They're going to get
00:42:59.880
promoted. The more people they can prosecute and play the, play the, um, the good guy, then the
00:43:04.240
bad guy and they get, you know, whatever credit when they put someone in jail. Uh, what I've noticed
00:43:09.640
with, especially with my unit in Iraq and Afghanistan, the, the fewer rules we had, the
00:43:14.660
better we were because we had the latitude and we're more precise and like it or not, we, we on the
00:43:19.540
ground are the good guys. And the Monday morning quarterbacks to sit in Washington, D.C. and, and,
00:43:24.160
uh, put people in Leavenworth for murder in war. Uh, I remember even on the bin Laden raid when we,
00:43:29.320
before we even got in the house, one of my friends shot one of the couriers and then his wife jumped on top.
00:43:33.600
He shot her. He looked at me outside the house. This is outside Ben Laden's house. And he said,
00:43:37.460
I just shot one of the women. She just jumped in front. Am I going to be okay? It's like,
00:43:41.480
stop worrying about that. That should not be in your mind. And when a Marine is in a gunfight,
00:43:45.280
they should be worried about, well, is some dude in a nice suit that's never been in mud going to
00:43:49.380
prosecute me for this? It's nonsense. And this is what, this is the bureaucracy that happens with
00:43:54.080
the further you go, the bigger the government agencies get. And then it turns into the self-licking
00:43:58.140
ice cream cone, personal power. Can I put an American in jail so I can get a Navy achievement
00:44:03.360
medal? And that's, that's what Pete's getting at. And the reason there's so much blowback is
00:44:07.240
because what needs to happen is the fat needs to get trimmed. But what needs to happen at the,
00:44:11.160
at the Pentagon is exactly what Elon Musk did at Twitter. Get rid of everybody,
00:44:14.820
almost change the name and they'd be more efficient. And that's, you're, you're just,
00:44:17.720
you're seeing the, the death throes of, of, of dying policies. And that's what these senators
00:44:24.020
And so Dakota, he, uh, you heard there that a little suggestion that that's where Blumenthal was
00:44:29.780
going. Like you don't, you can't manage these numbers in the army and the Navy. You're, you've
00:44:34.520
never managed anything. It's too big. You've done nothing. It's totally ignoring. As I pointed out
00:44:39.740
before you guys came on, Barack Obama managed absolutely nothing before he became president of
00:44:44.740
the United States. He was a community organizer. That's it. Um, and then you finally have the last
00:44:50.500
person to question Pete of anybody up there who was the newly elected, uh, Republican Senator
00:44:57.320
from the great state of Montana. That's Rob O'Neill's home state, Butte, Montana, um, who gets
00:45:03.900
up there, she, he, and starts, who's an actual veteran and he decides to go a different way with
00:45:11.160
Pete. Watch. How many genders are there? Tough one. Uh, Senator, there are two genders. I know that
00:45:18.860
while I'm a she, so I'm on board. What is the diameter of the rifle round fired out of an
00:45:28.600
M4, a one rifle? Uh, that's a five, five, six. How many pushups can you do? I did five
00:45:35.880
sets of 47 this morning. What do you think? What do you think our most important strategic
00:45:43.020
base is in the Pacific? Uh, in the Pacific, Guam is pretty strategically significant.
00:45:48.740
And then he went on Dakota, that continued for another five. Well, I mean, maybe three
00:45:54.200
minutes and Pete knew all those answers and he was trying to make a point there.
00:45:59.880
Yeah, look, I mean, I, I think that, that all of us sitting back, um, and trying to figure
00:46:04.940
out or to decide how Pete's going to, if he, how he's going to do or how he's not going
00:46:08.760
to do, I mean, that's all a hundred percent on Pete's shoulders and we're about to find
00:46:12.060
out. Right. I think, you know, questioning Pete about what he said on Fox news. I mean, he
00:46:16.160
was in the, he was in a role of a reporter. Now he's about to go into the role of, you
00:46:19.940
know, the secretary of defense, which all of us should be coming and rallying around and
00:46:23.640
trusting. Look, I'll say up front, like, let me, let me just go ahead and own this up
00:46:27.280
front. Megan is like, in the beginning of this, I was not an advocate for this. I was
00:46:31.860
a hundred percent against it. Right. I was, I was emotionally tied to it. I, I had a lot
00:46:36.280
of questions, uh, and all that. And, and, and, you know, I, I had to get set down and,
00:46:41.360
and, and really spoken to by another veteran who's, who's in all of it. But, you know, she
00:46:47.840
looked at me and she said, Hey, look, um, you know, he's going to be carrying out not
00:46:51.240
his personal views. This isn't about the personal Pete. This is about the person who's
00:46:54.980
going to go out and carry out what the president of the United States, uh, wants him to do and
00:46:59.720
what's on behalf and the best interest of other people. And, and when it comes down to
00:47:03.360
that, like, I a hundred percent believe that we all have got to stand behind and hope and
00:47:07.240
support that, that, you know, Pete on this, that he's going to go out and do the right
00:47:10.160
thing. I mean, I, like, I think Pete's got a huge learning curve, like every single one
00:47:14.180
of us or anybody that steps into that role is going to do. What I can tell you is, is
00:47:18.640
that historically, uh, the, the, the last few people who have been in there, uh, have not,
00:47:25.160
have not been doing or making a great difference, nor have they been, you know, doing what, what
00:47:29.420
we need to get our military focused on doing. Our military is made in the
00:47:33.280
focus for our military is two things, lethality, war fighting and people, war fighting and people
00:47:40.900
that is the business. And that is the only two focuses that, that, that aspect should
00:47:47.620
be focused on. And that's what we've got to get back to. And I trust that Pete's going
00:47:51.120
to do that. I trust that Pete loves America. I trust that Pete puts America first. I trust
00:47:56.560
that, that, that Pete loves troops. And I trust that he is going to be loyal to the
00:48:03.060
president of the United States, the constitution, and that he's going to carry out the orders
00:48:06.300
that he needs to in the best interest of the United States of America. And that is
00:48:09.940
what I know about Pete Hedgeseth. And that is what I care about right now is that somebody
00:48:13.460
goes up there and look, none of us, none of us have a clean record that, you know, on
00:48:18.780
our worst times, none of us would want to trade Pete's seat and sit up there with all these
00:48:23.240
people trying to go and find the skeletons in our closet. I can tell you, nobody watching
00:48:27.200
this, nobody watching that confirmation hearing today would have traded seats with Pete. If
00:48:32.980
anybody would have knew about a 10th of what people have been going and digging on him for
00:48:36.920
the last couple of months. Right. So I just think that like this hypocrisy of all of us
00:48:41.620
sitting back and throwing rocks at the man in the arena right now is something that, that
00:48:47.620
is, is not helpful, nor is it, you know, we all should sit back here and we should hope
00:48:52.420
that and get behind Pete. And we should try to sit here and hope that he goes and that he can
00:48:57.520
handle this job. And if he can't, then we'll see pretty quick, but none of this is on any of us to
00:49:02.000
figure out it's on Pete Hedgeseth now. And I trust that all of us should come around him and we should
00:49:05.980
sit here and help him become successful because if Pete's successful, the president's successful,
00:49:10.240
the United States of America is successful. And not only that, the globe is successful. So that I
00:49:14.760
think that that is the point that we've all got to rally around right now.
00:49:17.480
I love your honesty. I, I, I know that you were at best lukewarm on Pete, which is one of the
00:49:23.360
reasons we wanted you to be here. We don't, not just looking for uniformity and thought,
00:49:27.280
uh, Rob, one of the things or a couple of things that Pete said today, I know are right up your alley.
00:49:32.900
I mean, we've talked about it many times and one of them, of course, we heard over and over how he
00:49:38.000
wants to get woke out of the military. And that's been a big priority for Trump. But the other one
00:49:42.620
speaks to the total lack of accountability for the people who have lost our wars, who have endangered
00:49:49.180
guys like you in, in many cases, unnecessarily without any accountability for it, like the
00:49:54.780
disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. And Pete spoke to that a bit, um, at the end, take a listen to
00:50:00.340
SOT 17. The wokeness comes not from the uniform ranked Senator, but from the political class. Um, on day
00:50:07.700
one, on January 20th, when president Trump is sworn in, he will issue a new set of lawful orders
00:50:12.620
and the leadership of our services will have an opportunity to follow those lawful orders or not.
00:50:18.100
Those lawful orders will not be based on politics. They will be based on readiness, accountability,
00:50:22.860
standards, and lethality. That is the process by which leaders will be judged. And accountability is
00:50:29.220
coming because everybody in this room knows if you're a rifleman and you lose your rifle,
00:50:35.260
they're throwing the book at you. But if you're a general who loses a war, you get a promotion.
00:50:44.080
That's not going to happen in Donald Trump's Pentagon. There will be real standards for success.
00:50:51.300
Matt, never heard a message like that from anybody nominated to this post before.
00:50:57.140
Yeah, that was the best quote of the day. I remember when he said that, and that's exactly
00:51:00.640
what he's bringing to it. He's trying to simplify it. Uh, he's not trying to spin anything. Uh,
00:51:04.820
we're going to fight the war and we're going to win it. And accountability is huge. And every
00:51:08.060
veteran back there, there was a lot of special forces, a lot of, uh, infantry and Marines behind
00:51:12.260
him. You could, you could almost hear him, hear them agreeing with him because that's what they
00:51:16.140
want is accountability. They want to be able to have a line solidarity. They want to forward
00:51:19.580
defense and deterrence. They're not worried about the political class. Like Pete was just saying
00:51:23.380
brilliantly that that that's where all this stuff comes from. And you could even hear it spun
00:51:27.320
today. I think it was, uh, Mazzy Hirono from Hawaii who said something like, it doesn't matter who you
00:51:33.240
love. If you fight in a war, it's like, well, it's not quite that Pete saying, if you live up to the
00:51:37.940
standards, you can work. And it's not the worry about the LBG LGBTQ stuff. It's the, are you going
00:51:44.520
to get an operation that will requires you to recover for 18 months and you're not operationally
00:51:48.600
ready? That's all he's saying. But the problem is a lot of times, especially even dealing with
00:51:53.360
politicians, uh, you really got to be careful telling the truth because you might just offend
00:51:57.540
stupid people. And that's all that's happening here. But Pete nailed it. And that's, that's
00:52:01.060
right too. The only person who's been held accountable for the disastrous withdrawal from
00:52:04.880
Afghanistan was a colonel who's who spoke up and just, and he didn't even say anything
00:52:08.680
disparaging. It's like, Hey, where's the accountability? Boom, fired. And that's the way
00:52:11.920
they handled it because you get to a certain level in the military. You stop being military
00:52:16.100
and you start being political because you want to get that job at Raytheon. You want to be a
00:52:19.400
contractor. You want to run for politicians. And I've talked to so many, I've been
00:52:23.320
saying for a long time, we need a mid-level officer with experience on the ground to take
00:52:27.680
the Pentagon. I've talked to so many good officers at the major level, Lieutenant Commander level
00:52:31.960
that get out of the Navy, get out of the army because they're tired of dealing with the
00:52:35.160
bureaucracy. I have a simple plan too. If you want to keep it simple, the second you stop
00:52:39.080
carrying your own bags, you need to get out of the military and that's it. So we need a major in
00:52:43.860
there, a Lieutenant Colonel to run the, I think it's a perfect choice. And you know what, if we're
00:52:47.060
wrong, we're wrong, but we're going to find out. Pete just cruised today. He's going to get nominated.
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He's going to get the job. Confirmed. It's funny because I realized sitting there today that
00:52:55.700
everything I know about military ranks, I learned from MASH. Am I alone in that?
00:53:01.800
You're like, wait a minute. Who is above? Clinger. And then there was, anyway, Hawkeye.
00:53:08.500
Okay. And I would like to add on that. You look at my instance, right? We do have an officer
00:53:14.080
problem. We've got a lot of great officers. We have a lot of great officers. I want to say it up
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front. You know, there, there are some generals that are by far some of the best human beings
00:53:24.300
that I know that, that wear the stars on their chest. But what I also want to say is we've got
00:53:29.800
a lot of bad ones too. And I, you know, you look at, you look at my instance, you know,
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you take Afghanistan, my situation where we've got two investigations, direct loss of life due to
00:53:37.620
leadership. These officers got, they got letters of reprimand. They got promoted. Then they got out
00:53:45.480
and retired. And then as this other general got out, he ripped up those letters of reprimand and
00:53:50.780
nobody was held accountable. Now, let me tell you this. If I had made the decision and got somebody
00:53:55.020
killed or done the same thing that they had done, I would have been hammered. Anybody enlisted would
00:54:00.340
have made or planned that mission that they could have pinned it on. The enlisted would have been
00:54:04.620
hammered. And so like seeing Pete come in and hopefully recognize that and fixing it. I just think
00:54:09.340
that like, I said it a long time ago, the, the, there has got to be some level of accountability.
00:54:15.380
The accountability has got to be equal and it can't be this good old boy club that everybody
00:54:19.160
is, is overlooking in the aspect of it. Like I'm in, I'm in, let's just hold them accountable.
00:54:25.180
Like, like if you mess up on what the same level that you're going to hold this private who goes out
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and, and, and does something wrong or loses their rifle. Like, I just don't understand why a general,
00:54:38.660
like, you know, a general isn't held to the same, same standard as, you know, a, a, a Lance
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corporate and gets in trouble. And it's just, there's no way that anybody in the military will say
00:54:47.540
that that is not the case. Um, okay. Let's spend a minute on the, on the sort of main lines of
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attack against him. We covered a couple, like you, you don't have the experience or you haven't
00:54:57.580
managed enough. Um, they, or you, you allegedly beat your wife. Okay. Thanks, Tim Kaine. Sure.
00:55:04.360
Great. Um, but then there was the Mark Kelly, Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona. He brought up
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some of the allegations that we've seen in the anonymous, uh, press, the press citing anonymous
00:55:16.180
sources. Here's a little bit of that in SOT 16. An event in North Carolina, drunk in front of three
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young female staff members after you had instituted a no alcohol policy and then reversed it. True or
00:55:28.200
false. Anonymous smears. December of 2014 at the CVA Christmas party at the Grand Hyatt at
00:55:34.460
Washington DC, you were noticeably intoxicated and had to be carried up to your room. Is that true
00:55:42.080
or false? Anonymous smears. Another time a CVA staffer stated that you passed out in the back
00:55:49.420
of a party bus. Is that true or false? Anonymous smears. In 2014, while in Louisiana on official
00:55:57.720
business for CVA, did you take your staff, including young female staff members to a strip
00:56:05.400
club? Absolutely not. Anonymous smears. Okay. I'll just say the audience heard me talk about this
00:56:13.180
kind of thing before that. That wasn't great by Pete because choose one or the other. Either you're
00:56:18.140
going to say no, no, no, no, or you're going to say an anonymous smears the whole time, but to jump
00:56:23.120
in with absolutely not on just the one is sort of an admission. It sounds like an admission to all
00:56:27.560
the others, right? Like, I don't think it was an admission. I'm just saying. So anyway, what did
00:56:34.700
you make of it, Rob? Was it effective? Well, yeah, I mean, well, because when he's when he's
00:56:39.420
talking to Senator Kelly, who, by the way, is just ramping up for a run in 2028, that's all he's
00:56:43.680
doing. But at one point he was saying it's anonymous and he always said was, well, they're
00:56:48.300
not anonymous with no proof. Like, oh, well, then who's the who is it? Well, they are. But I think that
00:56:54.660
the beat your wife thing was so egregious that Pete had to say absolutely not, because
00:56:58.320
that's just ridiculous. I mean, it's to the point where, well, if you did. Well, no, he
00:57:01.960
said absolutely not on. Did you go to a strip club? But by the way, it's already all over
00:57:05.840
the press by people who actually did go to the strip club that Pete wasn't there. Like
00:57:09.840
that's already actually been out there. That didn't make it in anybody's questioning that
00:57:13.980
a third party independent witnesses said I was there and he was not there.
00:57:18.020
Well, he was saying it was addressed and he wasn't there. If he wasn't there, that's
00:57:23.400
not really on him, I don't think. I don't think the chain of command in the civilian sector
00:57:27.000
works like it does in the military. It would be on the, you know, probably on the XO or
00:57:30.140
the CEO if a bunch of his guys went to the bar on a weekend on a trip and then got in
00:57:35.060
trouble. That would be on them. But I don't think it is there.
00:57:36.840
But, Rob, don't you think this is where, like, all the anonymous press allegations did their
00:57:41.420
job, right? They made their way into the hands of a U.S. senator who then got to list
00:57:46.740
them off like they were all real and verified. And, you know, it's like just the assumption
00:57:52.460
that he was guilty of them all was built in, which is why I think anonymous smears was
00:57:56.880
actually a good answer for all of them. And he probably just should have stuck with that
00:58:04.140
OK, I mean, you put it that way. Yes, I agree with you. I was just thinking it was the
00:58:07.860
strip club or the beating your wife thing. He's going to answer it that way because, I
00:58:11.240
mean, you got to consider with all the stuff being thrown at him, he really handled his
00:58:14.680
emotions very, very well. This is one of the major reasons I'm not running for office
00:58:18.400
or trying to get confirmed into anything. But he handled it like a pro and he did get
00:58:22.480
a little upset. But, I mean, he did a really good job knowing the Democrats. He did such
00:58:26.980
a good job today and the Democrats were so bad. I think it's going to make the next
00:58:30.480
confirmation hearings go a lot smoother because they're going to shoot their shot like they
00:58:34.300
always do. We've seen in landslide elections where the American public wants it. Even the
00:58:38.720
media is taking a knee to what's going to happen. This is where they've got six days
00:58:42.760
left. They're just doing what they can and then they're gearing up for the next election,
00:58:47.100
The other big thing was women in the military. I mean, they just beat that horse until it
00:58:51.560
was absolutely dead and dead again today. He made so clear that what he's been talking
00:58:56.500
about is like, yes, women can serve in combat if they can meet the standards. It's like what
00:59:00.980
I've been saying all week on the firefighters out in L.A. and what most normal Americans feel.
00:59:06.060
They can serve if they can do the job. Although I have to say, you know, there are other
00:59:09.600
arguments for women not serving in combat, like the distraction of it. Like I actually
00:59:13.320
I don't know how Pete truly feels, but I think I might be further to the right than he is
00:59:17.800
on it. But Dakota, do you think that that's going to be an ongoing issue because all the
00:59:23.000
women up there seem to be, you know, indignant about that Pete would ever say that there's
00:59:28.240
a question about whether women should be serving certain combat roles?
00:59:30.960
Look, I think that, um, I mean, look, I think it doesn't matter what Pete said today. I don't
00:59:38.800
think, I don't think it was going to matter. Right. I don't think if he had said one way
00:59:42.380
or the other, I don't think any of it really mattered. Like it was just all about, it was
00:59:45.680
all about them getting their talking points out and their show out. So, I mean, the women
00:59:49.740
in combat thing, like me and Pete, I told Pete on the phone that I, you know, my, what
00:59:54.480
he, what he is, I think he clarified today for me. He clarified today. Initially what I'd
00:59:59.360
heard like small snippets, right. Of, you know, which talking points or whatever has
01:00:03.720
been spun out is, you know, no women in combat or I don't support women in combat. Right.
01:00:07.400
But what you heard him today is clarify is like, no, look, I think I add an opportunity,
01:00:11.720
but like the standard has got to be the standard. We cannot change up the physical demands.
01:00:16.760
You can't sit here and you can't mitigate. You can't overlook those, nor can you tailor
01:00:21.960
those, uh, the physical demands that boots on the ground, combat roles are going to require
01:00:28.620
and it's not, it's not gender based. It is, it is the job based. And so I think when he
01:00:33.480
clarified that up today, I a hundred percent agree with that aspect of it. Right. I, I,
01:00:38.180
you know, I a hundred percent agree with that because to be honest with you, Megan, like I
01:00:41.620
have seen women that could help perform the, some of the men that go to combat next to me.
01:00:45.500
Right. And so when it comes to that aspect of it, I have watched, I have watched women
01:00:49.860
who deserve to be in combat more than some of the guys that I've been in gunfights with
01:00:53.360
and that I'd rather take them anyways. Right. So I just don't, I don't get wrapped
01:00:56.760
up into that aspect of it. Like meet the standard, like go meet the standard. Can
01:01:00.700
you lead people? Can you meet the standard? Can you go out and perform and can you be
01:01:04.320
professional about it? Right. Because that is, that is what it's about. And I think
01:01:07.740
that that's what Pete portrayed today. I'm so glad he got to clarify that. And he got
01:01:11.520
to, to, to, to, you know, to really elaborate on some of his prior statements or, or what
01:01:16.700
was spun or whatever. Right. But I just think that like, I don't think anything that
01:01:20.860
he met, like what he said today was not changing any of their minds. It was all
01:01:24.760
about. I think you're right. I think you're right. No, no. He's not going to get a single
01:01:29.480
Dem vote from the look of it. Last question. How many pushups did you guys do this morning?
01:01:36.560
Dakota, I'll defer to you first. Cause I think I outrank you.
01:01:41.600
Well, I worked out with, uh, I worked with Lance Armstrong this morning. So I don't know.
01:01:45.160
I think we, we did. I think we did have some pushups in the workout, but I can't remember.
01:01:48.980
Nice. I had, I had leg day. Cause I'm still, I'm at leg day. I'm still moving out of my house.
01:01:53.120
A lot of stuff, a lot of furniture to carry. Okay. Well, I think it's unanimous. I did zero
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too. You guys, it's awesome to see you. Thank you as always for being here. Thank you for your
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service. God bless. And, uh, to be continued once it gets confirmed. Thank you, Megan.
01:02:10.120
Awesome. Thank you. All the best guys. Wow. Okay. Great show. We got to go. I got to get, uh,
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on my, on route back to where do I live again? Up in Connecticut. And, uh,
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thank you so much for being with us and for, uh, for bearing with us as we dropped the show a little
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late today, given where I was all morning. Uh, we are back tomorrow with VDH. See you then.
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