The Megyn Kelly Show - Megyn's Biggest Losers of 2024 Election, and Pathetic Kimmel Cries Over Trump, with Donald Trump Jr. and Piers Morgan

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00:00:31.000 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.740 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:46.180 The fallout from the 45th and soon to be 47th president's dominant victory on Tuesday night

00:00:52.000 continues with the media in full meltdown mode.

00:00:56.220 They're literally crying.

00:00:58.320 And the knives are also starting to come out on the left.

00:01:02.040 Donald Trump remains 4.2 million votes ahead of Vice President Kamala Harris in the popular vote.

00:01:09.120 Stunning figure.

00:01:10.260 And it's official now.

00:01:11.840 Trump will win the presidency with 312 electoral college votes to 226 for Harris, sweeping all seven of the swing states.

00:01:21.480 So how did he do it?

00:01:23.260 Later, we have Piers Morgan and Batya Angersargan.

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00:02:39.700 Don, great to have you here.

00:02:41.240 Welcome back.

00:02:42.060 Congrats.

00:02:42.660 How are you feeling?

00:02:44.440 Well, Megan, thank you so much.

00:02:46.140 I think I may have died about three days ago, and I basically am floating on adrenaline, testosterone, caffeine, and probably some nicotine.

00:02:53.760 That's about the only thing keeping me going.

00:02:55.380 I pulled two all-nighters in a row, you know, the day before Election Day and Election Day itself.

00:03:01.340 But it's awesome.

00:03:02.720 And I'm really looking forward to what you just said.

00:03:05.460 Just let them fight, Megan.

00:03:07.280 Let them fight.

00:03:07.960 It's going to be glorious.

00:03:08.840 Yes.

00:03:09.640 Yes.

00:03:10.020 Okay, so take us to the moment at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday night when, like, when did you know your internal polling data was correct?

00:03:19.660 And all these pollsters were wrong.

00:03:22.100 And when did you start to feel it like it's actually happening?

00:03:25.800 Honestly, fairly early.

00:03:27.000 I started feeling it months ago, actually.

00:03:29.540 I mean, I'm on the ground.

00:03:30.580 I'm the guy, you know, that goes to, you know, real America, does all of these things, interacts with people.

00:03:36.320 And you could see it.

00:03:37.080 It was just very, it was different than 16.

00:03:39.580 16 sort of going into Election Day.

00:03:41.520 You know, I knew we'd overperform, but I figured, you know, how do you take on that machine?

00:03:45.840 We're going to lose.

00:03:46.540 And we were like, oh, wow.

00:03:47.300 It actually happened.

00:03:48.180 20 was obviously an anomaly, crazy stuff going on.

00:03:52.200 And, you know, it felt so good so early because it wasn't just, you know, a white guy in a MAGA hat coming up to me and saying, good job.

00:03:59.860 It was everyone.

00:04:00.680 I think I tell the story sort of, you know, per capita.

00:04:03.600 I think I was taking more selfies with African-American men probably than anyone.

00:04:08.180 And I don't mean at like a Trump rally.

00:04:09.780 I mean at the airport on the way where they're not expecting it.

00:04:12.700 You could see a real cultural shift.

00:04:14.900 You could see that same shift with the youth vote where, I mean, you know, almost 50 percent of the 18 to 29 demo across the country, but in some places above 50 percent.

00:04:25.540 That would have been unheard of before when you look at, you know, some of the individual things.

00:04:30.400 Miami-Dade, we won Miami-Dade by 10 points.

00:04:33.580 In 16, we lost it by 30.

00:04:35.840 You know, just for perspective, I mean, there is a true seismic shift going on right now.

00:04:41.340 And, again, watching the Democrats right now, you know, we really got to go further all in on men playing women's sports to really make sure people understand what we're talking about.

00:04:50.240 You know, I welcome it.

00:04:51.420 But it's amazing that they're so far out of touch.

00:04:54.700 They're no longer cool.

00:04:56.880 You know, they don't have that it factor that they used to have at the party.

00:04:59.600 It's actually been an entire, you know, role reversal with what's going on.

00:05:03.980 So, you know, I felt it early.

00:05:05.320 I never let myself get overconfident.

00:05:06.980 I always sort of run like we're a couple points behind.

00:05:09.800 It just sort of feels like it's a better motivator for me.

00:05:12.520 But we probably knew it was, you know, probably over by about 10 o'clock based on some of the exit polling that we had seen.

00:05:18.560 You know, the rural areas coming out, a lot of the urban areas not coming out.

00:05:22.760 Or if they were coming out, you're seeing a lot of red hats in the crowd.

00:05:25.540 It was glorious.

00:05:26.740 Right.

00:05:28.300 All right.

00:05:28.640 So take us to the moment when you guys knew he won and your exchange with your dad.

00:05:33.700 Yeah, you know, when it was official, we were over at, you know, the convention center.

00:05:39.040 We had switched over from Mar-a-Lago, kind of going over to the convention center.

00:05:42.280 It's just, you know, an amazing crowd, incredible energy.

00:05:45.240 And when they called Pennsylvania sort of like that first of the blue wall, you know, we actually thought they were going to call Wisconsin first based on where the numbers were sort of looking.

00:05:53.460 But they called Pennsylvania.

00:05:54.740 I was like, well, that that's, you know, that's the piece of resistance.

00:05:57.060 You know, you don't need to worry about Arizona.

00:05:59.080 You didn't need to worry about Nevada if you had one of that blue wall based on sort of how we performed up and down the East Coast.

00:06:04.600 I had spent a lot of time in the last three weeks sort of in North Carolina.

00:06:09.420 You know, even some of those hardest hit areas, I went up to where they were ravaged by the hurricane, spent a lot of time there.

00:06:15.660 I was with the people from Samaritan's Purse delivering generators, delivering clothes.

00:06:20.140 And honestly, it was one of those things I didn't want to even talk about the election or anything.

00:06:23.660 But people were coming up to me and people who lost homes were like, oh, don't you worry.

00:06:27.600 Like, we're going to crawl through broken glass to be able to vote this time around.

00:06:31.100 We've seen what our government does.

00:06:32.220 We see how they could care less about us.

00:06:34.860 And, you know, so it just felt so good.

00:06:38.060 We just had to shore up those places that we had won consistently.

00:06:41.320 But, you know, that the other side had spent so much more money than we could ever possibly raise.

00:06:45.600 It's amazing.

00:06:46.380 Yeah.

00:06:46.980 Oh, yeah.

00:06:47.340 I mean, so much money.

00:06:48.080 So was there a moment on Tuesday night where like, I don't know, just I'm curious.

00:06:53.260 Was it like you go over, you hug each other, it starts sinking in?

00:06:57.600 Yeah, I was actually I was with J.D., you know, in his hold area with with my kids and some of their friends.

00:07:04.020 And, you know, some of the guys from that team, obviously, I spent a lot of time with them over the last few months, even obviously prior to sort of that selection.

00:07:12.120 So we were all hanging out there.

00:07:13.740 And and when that went, you could just literally we were having a conversation.

00:07:17.420 So we weren't even paying attention.

00:07:19.440 But you could hear the crowd, which is, you know, 20 yards behind us outside behind the curtains.

00:07:24.000 You just hear them go nuts.

00:07:25.340 We look over the TV and you see that you're like, yes, it felt so good.

00:07:31.120 Also, just because of the last four years, the hell they've tried to put us through, the weaponization of the DOJ, you know, the weaponization of other agencies, whether it's New York Attorney General's office or the district attorney's office there, all of that stuff.

00:07:44.500 The last four years, they've really tried to run us through hell.

00:07:48.340 So it felt so much better.

00:07:49.880 Honestly, it felt so much better than had we actually just won in 2020, especially now that we have the Senate in the House, which we wouldn't have then.

00:07:56.780 So we have the ability to do so much more this time around.

00:08:00.020 Are you feeling good about the House?

00:08:01.520 We still don't, you know, California counts.

00:08:03.220 We're like, I don't know, like two votes a day.

00:08:06.340 So we're going to have to wait for weeks.

00:08:07.800 But how are you feeling about the House?

00:08:09.800 I feel pretty good.

00:08:11.140 But, you know, to your point, you know, the longer they have to magically find a truckload of ballots that was, you know, filled out in a warehouse out of state.

00:08:18.980 You know, I'm definitely concerned about that.

00:08:21.040 I mean, I think, you know, as many people, you know, critique this on 2020, talking about that, like, you know, where'd those 15 million Democrat votes go?

00:08:29.740 Just magically, right?

00:08:30.940 So I'm always concerned about it.

00:08:33.620 Because there's a chart that's flowing on Twitter, on X, that does show, like, the same general number of Democrat votes in all the elections going back some 20 years, same sort of level on the graph.

00:08:44.320 Then you get to 2020, and it's another, it's 15 million higher, to Don's point.

00:08:48.480 Then it came back down again, which has, you know, led a lot of people to say, hello, does anyone wonder, like you just raised, that's what you're referencing.

00:08:56.880 Go ahead.

00:08:57.100 Yeah, I mean, you know, again, I don't believe that anyone was really all that enthusiastic about Joe Biden in 2020.

00:09:03.580 I don't believe that Joe Biden in 2020, in the midst of a pandemic, outperformed Barack Obama solely in Philadelphia, Atlanta, Detroit, you know, like, no one, I don't think anyone seriously believes that, you know, but still underperformed all, you know, 18 of 19 bellwethers, lost them, underperformed all the other counties in the country.

00:09:26.120 You know, it, you know, it doesn't pass a smell test to me, if I'm looking at it as a reasonable individual, even from the outside.

00:09:32.500 You know, but this one, again, it was so decisive, you know, so that was the thing, I wanted to make sure it was decisive.

00:09:41.500 That's why I was doing radio, basically, till the polls closed, just like, get in line, stay in line, vote.

00:09:47.080 If you make it decisive, you know, they can't play that game, where all of a sudden it drags out for two weeks, and all of a sudden, you know, we see the three o'clock bump, or the next day bump, or the week later bump.

00:09:57.240 Yeah.

00:09:57.820 That we saw in 2020, and so we were able to do that, and, you know, it was just a great feeling.

00:10:03.140 And there were a lot more mail-in ballots in 2020, and that is subject to more manipulation than in-person voting, whether it's in-person early, or in-person on the day of.

00:10:11.440 And so I think it was very good for the country that that was minimized, and it should be minimized further.

00:10:16.560 You vote, I like vote early, that's fine, you show up in person, same procedure.

00:10:20.460 The mail-in balloting, unless you are very elderly, and you can double prove with ID and so on that it's you, we're really in a sketchy territory.

00:10:28.520 Okay, you mentioned the number of people coming up to you from different racial backgrounds and so on, not, I was going to say, not your father's Republican Party, but in your case, it actually is your father's Republican Party.

00:10:39.300 So the numbers are in, and they're really extraordinary.

00:10:43.500 The New York Times pointing out that counties where Hispanics make up more than a quarter of the population collectively shifted 9.5 points to the right.

00:10:56.620 The Atlantic has a piece today, I'll just read you a couple of bullets.

00:10:59.560 In 2020, Biden won New Jersey by 16 points.

00:11:02.660 This time, Harris seems poised to win it by just five.

00:11:05.960 Uh, rural Texas border towns where many Hispanic people live, as well as rural Kentucky, where very few Hispanic lives.

00:11:14.720 Uh, she ran behind Joe Biden, your dad limited the Democratic margins in all of these places.

00:11:20.340 She ran behind Biden in high-income suburbs like Loudoun County, Virginia, and in counties with college towns all over the country, where Penn State is, University of Wisconsin, and others.

00:11:31.420 Um, he, your dad improved his margins in some of America's largest metro areas.

00:11:36.980 Here's the one you got to hear.

00:11:37.960 Maybe you already have.

00:11:38.880 In the New York City metro area, Manhattan shifted nine points to the right, Don.

00:11:45.780 Brooklyn shifted 12 points right.

00:11:48.360 Queens shifted 21 points right.

00:11:51.500 Bronx shifted 22 points to the right.

00:11:54.660 And it wasn't just New York, Philadelphia shifted five points right.

00:11:58.800 Detroit, nine points right.

00:12:01.080 Illinois, Cook County, Chicago, 11 points right.

00:12:05.000 I mean, virtually the entire country, it didn't matter if it was black, if it was white, if it was urban, if it was rural.

00:12:11.680 Everyone moved to the right.

00:12:13.800 So what is that about?

00:12:15.320 Listen, I think people have seen with their own eyes, right, a lot of, you know, failed Democrat policies.

00:12:22.100 The reality is, you know, when I always tell the story on the campaign trail, sort of, I took my kids last summer, two of my boys, we went on a father-son fishing trip.

00:12:29.400 We came back.

00:12:30.120 They were hungry.

00:12:30.960 We went to McDonald's.

00:12:32.040 It was a 10-year-old, a 14-year-old, and me, and it was 48 bucks.

00:12:36.200 And, Megan, I can tell you that if Donald Trump Jr. has sticker shot at McDonald's, it's a serious problem.

00:12:42.660 You have that, you see all the wars breaking out all over the world.

00:12:46.560 You see that, you know, they can magically find umpteen billion on two seconds notice for Ukraine or for the Middle East, you know, Lebanon, for example.

00:12:55.740 But, you know, when a hurricane hits North Carolina, you get a $750 loan and FEMA's nowhere in sight.

00:13:02.480 People got sick of the priorities where they were put last.

00:13:06.000 I mean, Americans were candidly second-class citizens in their own country.

00:13:08.600 If you came across the border, you get $10,000, you get a phone, they put you up in a luxury hotel with a court date sometime, you know, in the next century.

00:13:15.800 And Americans were struggling, and they're watching that money.

00:13:19.260 They see it as clear as day.

00:13:20.920 They see the crime.

00:13:21.900 They feel it.

00:13:22.480 They see the fentanyl.

00:13:23.340 No one's even talking about that, 100,000 deaths a year.

00:13:26.740 I mean, that's two Vietnams a year due to the plurus open border.

00:13:31.300 Kamala Harris owns that.

00:13:32.400 She was the border czar.

00:13:33.380 And, you know, you cited the Atlantic earlier, but, you know, there was a guy that tried fact-checking me in the Atlantic when I started saying, she's the border czar.

00:13:41.240 No, she's not.

00:13:42.340 That same writer in the Atlantic, like 18 months ago, wrote an article about her being the border czar.

00:13:49.740 No one's falling for it anymore.

00:13:51.760 The sort of mainstream media has lost all their credibility.

00:13:54.860 You know, so many people are tuning into, whether it's you, whether it's, you know, perhaps me, although mine's probably a little bit more of a bubble on the right.

00:14:01.600 But, you know, the Joe Rogans of the world, all of these people, independent media, you know, and independent journalists, and, you know, they're seeing a totally different picture that's totally discredited to the mainstream media.

00:14:13.880 And so as people have more access to that information, it was a big deal.

00:14:18.160 And then you also had Kamala Harris, where, you know, everything was so scripted.

00:14:21.660 The policy shifted depending on who she was talking to.

00:14:24.100 Well, guys like you and Joe were, you know, you're able to point that out.

00:14:27.860 When you're running a pro-Hamas ad in Michigan while running a pro-Israel ad in Pennsylvania, like it doesn't take a genius to sort of blend those two ads together.

00:14:37.520 You present them to the people and you lose everyone.

00:14:40.980 You know, she was a terrible candidate.

00:14:42.640 She couldn't relate.

00:14:44.320 There's a reason she didn't go on those podcasts.

00:14:46.800 It's because if anything lasted longer than five minutes on a teleprompter, you know, the real Kamala Harris came out.

00:14:53.240 And let's just say it wasn't all that impressive.

00:14:55.740 Can you speak to, like, the political article today that's trying?

00:14:59.940 It's clearly, I think, you know, Harris sympathizers trying to blame it all on Biden.

00:15:04.360 And obviously there's plenty of blame for him.

00:15:07.040 But the headline is Dems Rage Against Biden's Arrogance After Harris Lost.

00:15:13.420 They're directing their rage at Joe Biden for not dropping out sooner.

00:15:17.300 They're livid that he left them at a sharp disadvantage.

00:15:21.800 He shouldn't have run.

00:15:23.340 He's done an enormous amount of damage to the country, put a lasting dent in his legacy.

00:15:29.360 And the second part of that narrative by people like Scarborough is Kamala Harris, on the other hand, she hit all her marks.

00:15:35.280 I mean, she did all that she could possibly have done.

00:15:38.400 I mean, it's so laughable.

00:15:41.160 I mean, those are the same people writing those articles.

00:15:43.380 I guarantee if you go back six months and for the prior three years to that, those are the same people telling us that Joe Biden is the best Joe Biden he's ever been.

00:15:51.840 I mean, Joe Scarborough actually literally said that, like, this is actually a better Joe Biden with all of this experience.

00:15:56.640 I'm like, I don't know, man.

00:15:57.340 I saw the guy get lost on a stage yesterday.

00:15:59.660 It's like you can't sell that with a straight face.

00:16:03.180 It wasn't like a gaffe.

00:16:04.860 It was it was daily.

00:16:06.520 It was a disaster.

00:16:07.620 But then Kamala Harris is out there saying, you know, she was the last person in the room.

00:16:11.780 She was the person that then went to you to meet with Russia and Ukraine.

00:16:14.960 I guess she only met with Ukraine because she wasn't able to meet with Russia or didn't want to.

00:16:18.520 Or, you know, three days later, they invade.

00:16:20.600 I mean, you can't take credit for all of the administration's decisions and then run from them.

00:16:25.220 And so while I do agree Joe Biden was a disaster, I believe Joe Biden would have actually performed better than Kamala Harris, not because he's necessarily competent, but because people didn't have a visceral dislike of him.

00:16:36.660 He's sort of like, you know, you don't kick an old dog.

00:16:40.000 Right. It's just a little bit different.

00:16:41.200 So, you know, I think this is all on her.

00:16:44.220 I think she owns it.

00:16:44.880 I don't think he did her any favors.

00:16:46.300 But like candidly, I think what they did to him probably behind the scenes wasn't exactly great.

00:16:51.940 This was a guy that was, you know, whether we like him or not, he was a leader of the Democrat Party.

00:16:55.820 He was, you know, a 50 year senator.

00:16:59.180 He was there forever.

00:17:00.320 And, you know, the second it wasn't useful or they saw another path or the path that they thought was better, you know, they kicked him out like a dog.

00:17:06.960 So I don't know that he was all that helpful to him.

00:17:09.040 But, you know, I would have liked Kamala Harris to be on the campaign trail for like an entire year longer.

00:17:15.160 I had to think we'd have we'd probably win every state.

00:17:19.100 So, you know, that's what her defenders are saying.

00:17:22.280 She didn't have enough time and she did not improve upon acquaintance.

00:17:25.100 That's the that's the reality of it.

00:17:26.640 Let me ask you about some of the reaction now.

00:17:28.400 Now, Biden's issued a statement just now.

00:17:31.280 Kamala Harris conceded finally yesterday at four.

00:17:34.200 And then Obama puts out the following statement, former President Obama, that reads in part as follows.

00:17:39.600 In a country as big and diverse as ours, we won't always see eye to eye on everything.

00:17:44.180 But progress requires us to extend good faith and grace, even to people with whom we deeply disagree.

00:17:51.940 That's how we've come this far.

00:17:53.520 And it's how we'll keep building a country that is more fair and more just, more equal and more free.

00:17:59.660 I mean, he sounds really sweet and like he's really rooting for your dad and for the country to come together.

00:18:06.560 He's not.

00:18:07.400 I mean, I think he's the architect.

00:18:08.400 One of all three of these people who either tried to put your father in prison or were in support of it to now be like, I am I'm the elder statesman and I will help us unite.

00:18:19.280 What do you make of it?

00:18:20.660 Listen, I think it's a huge lie.

00:18:22.960 I think Obama's always been an incredibly divisive character.

00:18:25.900 I think he is the architect of a lot of the lawfare that we've had to deal with, the weaponization of government against its people and certainly against their political rivals.

00:18:34.220 I think he was incredibly helpful to us with African-American men when he was basically browbeating them and, you know, sort of, you know, talking to them like they must do this.

00:18:44.400 And if you're not this, you're not a man.

00:18:45.880 I don't know that Obama has the qualifications to really try to browbeat men on masculinity.

00:18:49.740 But then you saw, you know, even the other day, just less than a week ago, he's out there repeating the Charlottesville hoax as though it's real.

00:18:58.100 Like that was the true Obama.

00:19:00.200 He's a divisive figure.

00:19:01.540 Days ago.

00:19:01.860 He will lie to your face and then he'll play the innocent card.

00:19:05.180 You know, if Obama was a Republican, the media would destroy him for those kind of lies.

00:19:09.880 But because he's a Democrat, they have to get into full propaganda mode and look at how nice he is.

00:19:15.180 He's not.

00:19:16.040 He's always been that character.

00:19:17.620 He's always been a vindictive guy.

00:19:19.740 I'm just glad that the American public finally saw that because I think they realize it.

00:19:24.440 And, you know, I know he was trying to probably help Kamala Harris, but I think he probably did as much, if not more damage to her campaign than Joe Biden because the rest of America got it.

00:19:34.560 When there's liberal journalists, you know, in the last six, seven months, literally coming out, be like, you know what?

00:19:40.720 Charlottesville was nonsense.

00:19:41.740 That was a hoax.

00:19:42.540 We're finally playing the whole clip.

00:19:43.700 You know, I don't believe that they were innocent actors in this and they just didn't listen to the rest of the sentence.

00:19:48.520 I don't believe that for one second.

00:19:50.040 But when some of the most radical leftist writers in the country are like, OK, maybe we should drop this one because no one's buying it anymore.

00:19:55.700 And he's literally selling it to stadiums of people or, you know, as much of a crowd as Kamala Harris could get.

00:20:03.080 That's just disgusting.

00:20:04.500 It was disgusting.

00:20:05.360 And I think the rest of the country, whether you agree with our policies or not, they saw that, they realized it, they recognized him for who he actually is now, and they weren't buying it anymore.

00:20:17.280 Kamala Harris got out there yesterday.

00:20:19.380 And as I pointed out, she did concede.

00:20:22.380 She had a lot of her same words, salad, phrases that we've heard for all of her campaign now.

00:20:29.440 Here's just a sampling.

00:20:30.780 We'll listen to Sot 3.

00:20:31.540 While I concede this election, I do not concede the fight that fueled this campaign.

00:20:41.540 The fight, the fight for freedom.

00:20:51.220 I will never give up the fight for a future where Americans can pursue their dreams, ambitions and aspirations.

00:21:02.060 The fight for our freedom will take hard work.

00:21:06.480 But like I always say, we like hard work.

00:21:09.500 Hard work is good work.

00:21:11.280 Hard work is good work.

00:21:13.340 Hard work can be joyful work.

00:21:16.200 On the campaign, I would often say, when we fight, we win.

00:21:21.400 But here's the thing.

00:21:22.800 Here's the thing.

00:21:24.080 Sometimes the fight takes a while.

00:21:26.840 That doesn't mean we won't win.

00:21:29.560 That doesn't mean we won't win.

00:21:31.940 Do you think Kamala Harris goes on to be any sort of a leader in the oppositional force to your dad's agenda?

00:21:43.140 I hope so.

00:21:44.400 Because I think it only helps us.

00:21:46.260 You know, that speech, you know, I get it.

00:21:48.640 They're checking the boxes.

00:21:49.680 It sort of read to me like a Dr. Seuss book.

00:21:52.000 But I think that's the point.

00:21:53.980 You know, it usually does with her.

00:21:56.580 And again, the American people are on to it.

00:21:59.080 They get it.

00:21:59.960 They're no longer just ignoring what they see each and every day in their pocketbook across the world.

00:22:06.120 I mean, I think the greatest headline I saw, you know, I guess yesterday morning, or maybe it was lunchtime.

00:22:12.420 I woke up after pulling two all-nighters.

00:22:14.700 And I'm reading, Hamas has now come out and said they'd love to get to peace.

00:22:18.440 I'm like, it took Trump 12 hours.

00:22:19.760 He's not even in office yet.

00:22:20.980 And Hamas wants to have peace in Israel all of a sudden.

00:22:24.080 It's like, hey, guys, daddy's home.

00:22:27.540 Daddy's home.

00:22:28.420 And, like, we can't get away with the nonsense anymore.

00:22:31.140 It's so incredible because when I think of the last four years, I think whether it's there, whether it's the Ukraine, you know, the life that was lost simply because America had no leadership.

00:22:42.680 They had no standing in the world.

00:22:44.640 And, you know, that's the nature of predation, Megan.

00:22:46.700 When, you know, when a predator sees something that's weak, they go after it.

00:22:50.240 When America is weak, the rest of the world turns into chaos.

00:22:52.980 And so it's so incredible.

00:22:55.180 Now, of course, the liberal media is going to say, look at this.

00:22:57.060 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris created peace in the Middle East.

00:22:59.680 You know, coincidentally, 12 hours after they realized the jig is up and they have to get this thing going.

00:23:06.320 But it's just so incredible to see.

00:23:08.040 But it's also so disheartening to realize what was lost over the last four years, whether it's the jobs, whether it's our manufacturing, whether it's the life that we've seen, you know, probably close to a million people over in the Ukraine and, you know, tens of thousands in the Middle East.

00:23:24.780 It's just so unnecessary.

00:23:26.740 So I'm really looking forward to my father getting in there, fixing all of this nonsense.

00:23:32.360 It's a shame it had to take this long.

00:23:34.880 But I hope the rest of the world sees that.

00:23:37.180 And I hope it really changes the way we approach things in the future and especially after a Trump administration.

00:23:43.280 What's happening now on the transition?

00:23:47.560 Because I know you're getting deluged with people who are raising their hands, wanting this post, wanting that post.

00:23:54.580 The reports, and I don't know if they're right, but the reports are that Marco Rubio wants or is being considered for state.

00:24:01.420 Tom Cotton wants or is being considered for defense.

00:24:04.540 Would RFKJ have an actual cabinet position now that the Republicans are going to control the Senate as opposed to being a non-confirmed czar type guy?

00:24:14.920 Like, just tell us what you can about the transition.

00:24:18.480 You know, I was actually with RFK yesterday.

00:24:20.960 We definitely do want to, you know, honor the promise that we made, make sure that he's involved in whatever capacity sort of he wants.

00:24:26.000 And I think you do an incredible job on this stuff as it relates to health.

00:24:28.740 I spoke with both Tom Cotton and Marco yesterday.

00:24:31.940 You know, I sort of want to make sure that we're surrounding my father with people that are actually going to be helpful, not people who are, you know, unelected that think they know better than what the vision is of the duly elected president of the United States.

00:24:43.980 We had too much of that last time.

00:24:45.220 I think that's what frankly scares the swamp so much is that Trump now with knowledge doesn't just trust me that, oh, yeah, I'm on your side.

00:24:52.840 I mean, I've also fielded a lot of those calls from people I haven't heard from in four years.

00:24:56.480 Hey, buddy, we're with you all along.

00:24:58.160 It's like, OK, like if you haven't called me in four years, just lose my number now because you probably aren't.

00:25:02.780 You must love that.

00:25:03.520 You know, so I don't want to confirm or deny any of those things.

00:25:06.280 I'll let those guys do it.

00:25:07.220 You know, not all of that information is accurate, but but, you know, we'll get there shortly.

00:25:13.520 But, you know, we're going to make sure I'm going to make sure that the people that surround my father are both loyal to him and competent.

00:25:20.660 You can have loyal and incompetent.

00:25:22.440 That's not a great combination.

00:25:23.580 You can have competent and not loyal.

00:25:25.380 That's a terrible combination.

00:25:26.340 You know, we need both.

00:25:28.020 But I think this time around, we actually know who those people are.

00:25:30.740 We're going to bring in a lot of people from outside.

00:25:33.200 You know, Elon was there at Mar-a-Lago yesterday with my father, you know, talking about Doge.

00:25:37.440 I mean, I think to me, I mean, honestly, as much of a proponent as I've been of.

00:25:41.240 Doge's Department of Government Efficiency, he's going to start shrinking the size of government.

00:25:44.300 Keep going.

00:25:45.320 Yeah.

00:25:45.820 Like, I think to me, you know, I love what RFK can do to health.

00:25:48.860 I have five young kids.

00:25:49.720 I want to make sure I'm not poisoning them, you know, when they have a meal.

00:25:53.120 I think that's incredible.

00:25:54.240 You know, I'd love to let him go, you know, go wild on some of these things or at least like shed some light so the American public understands exactly why we are where we are, exactly why we're so fat, exactly why we're so unhealthy and why it seems like so many people are trying to keep us that way rather than let us be healthy.

00:26:09.760 But the Elon thing is incredible because when you have the opportunity, Megan, to put the Einstein of our era into a position like that where he's willing to do it.

00:26:19.220 I mean, this guy, you know, in a few years, he's outperforming NASA, who's been doing the space thing for like 75 years.

00:26:25.940 In a few years, publicly funded, this guy's catching rockets, you know, that the greatest geniuses in our government.

00:26:31.760 I use that term somewhat loosely, you know, are incapable of, you know, I want that guy doing that.

00:26:37.660 I want the guy that's literally taken on entire industries and changed the way we look at the world, whether it's communications, whether it's transportation, whether it's the space race.

00:26:46.180 I mean, that is, to me, an opportunity, that's a once in a generation, if not once in a lifetime, if not perhaps longer, you know, opportunity to get our country on the right track.

00:26:57.080 He said something at the summit I saw him at in September, Elon, about how the amount of red tape he had to go through to get those rockets launched, the permission slips basically from the feds, and said,

00:27:07.680 I do think there's something wrong when it takes longer to get the permission slip than it does to build the rocket.

00:27:13.180 And so, not only will he be looking for ways to streamline the feds, but to get rid of the constant red tape we all have to go through in everything, and who better than Elon must to do?

00:27:22.440 All right, I got to go, but I want to ask you one question before we go.

00:27:25.620 Oh, go ahead.

00:27:26.580 Yeah, and that is, when I've been watching your dad over these past couple of months, I see somebody who is, I don't know if it's like wiser.

00:27:37.680 Like, he seems more reflective to me.

00:27:41.120 I just feel like we're going to get a president who's, of course, got all the fighter vibe that we know your dad is built of.

00:27:47.440 However, he seems like, I believe him, that he really would like to be a president for all Americans.

00:27:53.420 I believe him that if the Democrats will give him a chance, he'd be happy to hear them out.

00:27:59.840 He's not going to enact their agenda.

00:28:01.420 But you tell me what you've observed about his state of mind as he goes into this next huge challenge.

00:28:09.020 Also, I think, you know, candidly, and by the way, before I even get to the answer, like, I would really appreciate your comments the other night in Michigan.

00:28:15.980 I thought that was incredible.

00:28:18.520 It was just incredibly well done.

00:28:21.080 I actually walked over to thank you.

00:28:22.160 I know you had to run, so I missed you by about 30 seconds.

00:28:24.560 But I thought it was incredible, and I think you're 100 percent right.

00:28:27.360 Like, he gets that.

00:28:28.740 You know, the interesting thing, and I've said this from day one, and most people don't see it.

00:28:33.000 What's interesting about my father is, and it's perhaps his biggest political liability in a certain way, is that he actually has a lot of empathy.

00:28:41.260 You see that.

00:28:41.980 You see that come out in the campaign and the story.

00:28:43.780 It's like, 32 years ago, Donald Trump did this for me, and, like, we had no idea what was going on.

00:28:47.460 Or the people that have worked for him for 40 years, you know, that doesn't happen if you're a dictator, if you're literally Hitler, Megan.

00:28:54.360 But he's unwilling to show those things or that side of him because he's, like, of the mindset that, hey, how do I, you know, go negotiate against Putin if he thinks I'm soft?

00:29:03.960 You know, it's an old school mentality.

00:29:05.340 It's a little different.

00:29:06.160 But I do think, you know, I do think perhaps the assassination attempts, I think there was a little bit more that it brought out perhaps a bit more of a spiritual nature.

00:29:15.940 You know, that's way too much coincidence to just be coincidence, right?

00:29:20.440 I don't believe in that level of statistical coincidence.

00:29:23.400 I think that's an impossibility.

00:29:25.380 So, you know, I've noticed that or a willingness to sort of, you know, show what's always been there but something that he hasn't always been willing to show.

00:29:32.900 I've seen that, you know, ever since July 13th.

00:29:35.280 I've seen it the way he is with me.

00:29:37.380 I see it the way he is, you know, with my kids, his grandchildren.

00:29:41.560 He's always been great with them, but it's a little different.

00:29:44.320 And I'd love to see, you know, the Democrats do that.

00:29:47.520 I hear about them talking about unity, but I'm like these same people that, you know, talked about unity wanted to put me in jail for life or worse, the death penalty.

00:29:55.400 They've said this out loud.

00:29:56.520 And I was like, for things that we all acknowledge now just didn't exist.

00:29:59.940 So I always joke, you know, I understand I'm not the upstanding citizen that Hunter Biden is, but I feel like I was treated a little bit differently.

00:30:05.400 Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong.

00:30:07.840 I see it, too.

00:30:08.760 And I'm looking forward to seeing what your dad does with it when he becomes president and they do the all out of salt again because nobody believes that they're going to try to give him a fair shot.

00:30:16.540 I don't believe that.

00:30:17.480 And that's why we need his fighter nature.

00:30:19.040 But I don't know.

00:30:20.060 I'm feeling more optimistic about our future as a country than I have in a long, long time.

00:30:24.060 Don, thank you so much for all your hard work.

00:30:26.460 And congratulations.

00:30:28.380 Thank you, Megan.

00:30:29.020 I really appreciate it.

00:30:29.780 Oh, still such a great day for America and our best days ahead.

00:30:34.480 I really feel it now.

00:30:35.460 Can you imagine?

00:30:36.380 Can you imagine what this team of Marvel is going to do?

00:30:40.100 That's that's what we should be calling them, the team of Marvel, you know, with Donald Trump and Elon Musk and J.D. Vance and RFKJ.

00:30:48.200 We're going to get into the RFKJ thing in just a little bit.

00:30:50.180 The New York Times got this long piece against him and they're talking about people like Dr. Jay Bhattacharya.

00:30:54.600 You guys know him.

00:30:55.220 He's been on the show many times.

00:30:56.160 I'll get into it next.

00:31:00.780 Coming up, we have Piers Morgan, but I wanted to go through some thoughts before we get to our next guest.

00:31:07.700 OK, I've been reading as much as it's so fun reading the news right now.

00:31:11.140 I'm like, I can't get enough of it.

00:31:13.020 I read it.

00:31:13.560 It's all all all of it.

00:31:15.320 Like, let's yes, let's go through it.

00:31:18.560 Postmortem and reading the leftist postmortems.

00:31:21.680 Those are the best.

00:31:22.700 I've never been so interested in The New York Times.

00:31:24.740 So here is one article I want to go through with you from The New York Times entitled.

00:31:29.020 It's in today's paper.

00:31:30.020 How Trump won and how Harris lost.

00:31:34.060 And before I do that, I just wanted to share the following.

00:31:37.060 I was thinking today about the biggest losers.

00:31:40.260 Kamala Harris is obviously the biggest loser, but there are many others who lost a lot on

00:31:46.340 Tuesday and they are worthy of a mention.

00:31:50.240 Joe Biden, he's getting eviscerated.

00:31:52.520 And he's absolutely, as I mentioned, the Politico article, I read you some of the highlights.

00:31:57.500 He's, they're rageful against him.

00:32:00.500 They are livid.

00:32:01.420 He left them at a sharp disadvantage.

00:32:03.540 Jim Manley, top aide to former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

00:32:06.580 He's done enormous damage to this country.

00:32:10.460 His legacy is in tatters.

00:32:12.760 This guy Manley says, yes, I agree.

00:32:14.640 Um, it's ruined his entire legacy as the guy who took out Trump because now he's the guy

00:32:19.480 who stayed too long and allowed Trump to seize control over the country in even more pockets

00:32:24.760 than before.

00:32:25.880 And, uh, so Joe Biden, no question, a loser, a big one of this whole thing.

00:32:31.840 I mean, you'd have to say that Liz Cheney is up there possibly as number, number three for

00:32:36.940 her, right?

00:32:37.560 She's gotta be, does she not?

00:32:39.200 They paraded this woman around like she was somehow gonna be their savior.

00:32:44.620 And those of us who are more right-leaning were like, what the F are you doing?

00:32:48.840 Absolutely nobody likes Liz Cheney.

00:32:51.300 Sorry, but she's not this principled person who just held the line against Trump.

00:32:56.860 She suffers from severe TDS, severe.

00:33:00.480 She led a dishonest congressional inquiry into January 6th in which she quietly coordinated

00:33:07.420 with witnesses behind the backs of their lawyers, which is unethical.

00:33:11.740 She did not present the evidence that was supposed to be somewhat exonerating to the defendant

00:33:16.860 who was not represented there by, on the panel, the alleged judges.

00:33:21.240 Uh, the only Republicans even on the panel were her or Liz Cheney and Kinzinger, both of

00:33:26.220 whom have TDS.

00:33:27.240 She said, this is not a credible person when it comes to anything having to do with Trump.

00:33:31.940 So the thought that they were going to get any available Republicans who hadn't already

00:33:38.640 switched over was just absolute nonsense.

00:33:42.380 No one will be listening to her anymore.

00:33:44.380 I mean, already some of the Democrats are like, Liz Cheney was the problem.

00:33:47.380 So they trashed her just as soon as they picked her up.

00:33:51.300 I hope you like your new friends, Liz.

00:33:53.140 I hope you do.

00:33:54.300 Uh, one of the big losers, the celeb crowd.

00:33:57.400 We touched on this yesterday, Beyonce, loser, Oprah, huge loser, JLo, you matter, you matter,

00:34:06.260 loser.

00:34:07.700 No one cares what you think.

00:34:10.120 If you want to talk to me about what it is you're doing to your skin, I'm all in.

00:34:15.360 Go on.

00:34:16.120 I, you got my full attention.

00:34:17.920 If you want to tell me who to vote for or what's happening with the economy or immigration,

00:34:24.200 please sit down.

00:34:25.700 No one cares.

00:34:27.400 We would like to know what happened between you and Ben Affleck, what happened between

00:34:31.820 you and P. Diddy, exactly what you're doing to your butt and how you keep your skin so

00:34:37.140 glowy.

00:34:37.640 That will end the list of things we care about JLo's opinion on.

00:34:42.600 Taylor Swift, sorry, you effed around and found out.

00:34:47.600 You do not have unlimited influence.

00:34:50.660 The young girls love you because you sing songs about men who break up with you and they

00:34:54.420 can all relate to that.

00:34:55.340 No one gives two shits about your political opinion, so you should take it and stuff it.

00:35:01.660 That could be your next song.

00:35:03.040 Stuff it.

00:35:03.980 That's what the American electorate told me.

00:35:06.000 We could play it on Thanksgiving as we do that to our turkeys.

00:35:09.660 They will remind us of you and your political opinions.

00:35:12.480 Julia Roberts, who outed herself not only as a leftist, which we knew, but as somebody who—and

00:35:20.460 by the way, she's also a husband's dealer.

00:35:22.900 She stole the husband that she has right now in a reported affair.

00:35:27.620 So, okay, maybe don't be the voice of the ad in which we talk about women betraying their

00:35:32.120 husbands by injecting deceit into the marital relationship.

00:35:35.780 Because in the leftist view, marriages are not about honesty and talking about one's differences

00:35:41.580 and agreeing to disagree on certain dicey issues.

00:35:44.300 But they're about lying.

00:35:46.400 Lying if you cannot persuade your spouse to believe as you do.

00:35:50.060 And they believe this so strongly, you put it in an ad and ran it everywhere.

00:35:56.080 The ad also portrayed Republicans as unattractive, bumpkiny, backward losers.

00:36:04.420 And as it turns out, that's what even the sitting president of the United States thinks

00:36:08.300 about them, that they're garbage.

00:36:09.840 The possible next vice president, at least as of last week, Tim Walsh, thinks they're Nazis.

00:36:15.120 So she does speak for a large collective, and that collective has done this to her.

00:36:20.460 I'm giving the bird to my listening audience.

00:36:23.560 So Julia Roberts, yet another big loser, and her pal, George Clooney, who did something

00:36:28.900 similar for another ad, same.

00:36:31.340 You got Joe Biden out.

00:36:33.360 How'd it work out for you?

00:36:35.060 How'd that go?

00:36:36.300 Maybe you should have said something a little earlier, like when you attended that fundraiser

00:36:40.540 and you and your buddies at Pod Save America saw he was totally incompetent and non-composmentous,

00:36:46.340 and you all STF you to try to save his political fortunes.

00:36:51.260 Meanwhile, it was tick-tock, tick-tock.

00:36:53.200 The clock was ticking.

00:36:54.460 You blew it.

00:36:55.620 And only when it was too obvious to deny, did you say anything?

00:36:59.800 So you too are a big loser, sir.

00:37:02.280 Hope your billions are keeping you happy today, bringing you comfort.

00:37:06.340 That brings me to the Lincoln Project.

00:37:11.340 I mean, I might have to move them above Liz Cheney.

00:37:15.180 Like, I think I would, but they had no standing to lose.

00:37:19.580 So I don't know.

00:37:20.900 When you start off a bottom feeder and then you remain a bottom feeder, can you go from

00:37:26.080 like catfish to crab?

00:37:28.720 I'm going to have to consult an oceanologist to find out, like, how does it work at the

00:37:33.200 bottom of the ocean with the true bottom feeders?

00:37:35.940 I have got to show you Rick Wilson.

00:37:38.540 This is him.

00:37:39.940 The day of the vote.

00:37:41.340 The day of the vote with this star prediction on what was about to happen.

00:37:48.680 I have a couple of things to think about for tomorrow, everybody.

00:37:52.020 Number one, Trump's going to lose.

00:37:54.680 He's going to lose badly.

00:37:56.620 He's going to be, he's going to be wrecked.

00:37:58.920 I don't know what the electoral college count's going to be at the end of this, but it's going

00:38:02.280 to get loud and it's going to get hard for him.

00:38:04.960 Their panic is extraordinary.

00:38:07.180 Their events in Georgia and North Carolina are basically about as well attended as a Pokemon

00:38:12.520 card trading convention in, in ass crack Alabama.

00:38:16.780 This is a campaign in free fall.

00:38:19.720 It's really, really fucked up.

00:38:21.920 Donald Trump is now in the same position that he described Hillary Clinton.

00:38:25.900 in 2016, he's weak.

00:38:27.940 He can't finish his sentence.

00:38:29.500 He's sick.

00:38:30.280 He's meandering.

00:38:31.500 He's probably dying at this point.

00:38:34.980 He is.

00:38:35.540 His party is splitting apart.

00:38:37.360 Yes.

00:38:37.800 You Magus.

00:38:38.680 I know Magus.

00:38:39.600 I know you guys are so intense.

00:38:41.340 You, so you believe everything that he says, every word that comes out of his mouth.

00:38:45.140 I get it.

00:38:45.540 Do you believe that?

00:38:46.560 But guess what?

00:38:47.280 He's been lying to you all along about a lot of things and you're about to realize it

00:38:52.280 tomorrow.

00:38:53.260 Now, I want to say something to you, Donald, and your little, and your little minions.

00:38:56.300 Um, and, and your whole enabling class of the, the sort of MAGA influencer class.

00:39:03.120 Donald, if you try to steal this election tomorrow and you're gonna, we know you're

00:39:06.920 gonna try.

00:39:07.900 Oh.

00:39:08.360 I promise you one thing.

00:39:09.900 You will die in prison alone.

00:39:12.600 Your family will be broken.

00:39:14.520 Every property you've ever owned will be taken from you.

00:39:17.460 Your, your chance of, of, of, of dying in prison is going to go way, way up.

00:39:21.280 If you do what you think you're going to, you're going to get away with, it's not going

00:39:24.320 to work this time.

00:39:25.280 It's just not, you're going to be very, very, it's going to be very, very tough.

00:39:28.720 Donald, I'd be super careful if I were you.

00:39:30.500 I think really hard about the fantasy of some of these jack offs around you are selling

00:39:35.140 you.

00:39:35.880 And, and I, and I think really, really hard about some of the, the bullshit that you're

00:39:40.780 selling yourself.

00:39:44.160 He took the Acela to crazy town.

00:39:47.080 It was the day before the election.

00:39:48.960 Those predictions are worth about the same as Ann Seltzer of the Des Moines Register,

00:39:55.020 whose career is in tatters today.

00:39:57.780 These guys should never be listened to about anything ever again.

00:40:02.940 And it was not just Rick Wilson, who, by the way, is also part of that infamous Don Lemon

00:40:07.560 clip with these Republicans with their maps.

00:40:10.940 Okay.

00:40:11.640 The hateful, hateful person.

00:40:13.900 George Conway in the Atlantic.

00:40:16.300 America did this to itself.

00:40:18.300 This is his post election rage.

00:40:21.760 The man elected president last night is a depraved and brazen pathological liar, a shameless

00:40:26.580 con man, a sociopathic criminal, a man who has no moral or social conscience, empathy or

00:40:31.460 remorse.

00:40:31.920 He has no respect for the constitution and the laws he will swear to uphold.

00:40:35.740 And on top of all that, he exhibits emotional and cognitive deficiencies that seem to be

00:40:39.280 intensifying.

00:40:39.960 He says my own hope and belief about what would transpire last night was sadly and profoundly

00:40:44.760 wrong.

00:40:45.240 Like many, I have the emotional and intellectual flaw, if that's what it is, of assuming that

00:40:53.320 people are wiser and more decent than they actually turn out to be.

00:40:57.280 I feel chastened, distraught about my apparently naive view of human nature.

00:41:05.900 You see, that is the problem with the guys of the Lincoln project.

00:41:09.100 They overestimated us.

00:41:11.060 They thought we were all smarter and more decent.

00:41:13.680 And they've been reminded that we are dumb and disgusting and unethical.

00:41:18.620 Well, okay, that's good luck winning the next election.

00:41:22.560 It's not going to work out so well for you, George and Rick.

00:41:27.500 Look, it went, oh yeah, wait, the Don Lemon thing.

00:41:32.020 That's another one.

00:41:33.180 He did live stream.

00:41:34.540 Somebody told me that there's a Lincoln project live stream from during the election.

00:41:37.520 We're checking.

00:41:38.060 We're checking right now.

00:41:39.780 Don Lemon did a live stream during the election.

00:41:42.720 Let's just take a look at how that went.

00:41:44.780 What is it in the female psyche in America that makes it harder for even women to believe

00:41:52.580 that a woman should be president?

00:41:53.940 You know, there is a lot in our society right now where women do feel pressured or are in

00:42:00.640 a certain mindset where they may not vote for their best.

00:42:06.420 Oh God, I don't even want to say it.

00:42:08.240 But they may not vote as they wish or they may vote against things that would be good

00:42:15.080 for women.

00:42:16.040 Oh my gosh, that's great.

00:42:17.480 Thank you.

00:42:18.340 Hey, political sis, thank you for joining us.

00:42:20.180 Sorry, look, everyone is having a connectivity issue.

00:42:24.440 So sorry about that.

00:42:26.000 That's okay.

00:42:26.780 Technical difficulties.

00:42:27.560 I was, I was saying that I think within, within, um, especially within my community,

00:42:35.360 that we really need to, you know, we're Democrats, we want everybody to have everything.

00:42:41.120 They can't hear each other.

00:42:41.840 That's our problem is that we are too open hearted in a world that clearly, when you look

00:42:48.020 at the votes are very kind of narrow in how they think and their worldview.

00:42:53.000 Let me, let me jump in here because I think this says, as I've been saying, this is more

00:42:59.000 about America.

00:42:59.800 This is what America wants.

00:43:01.140 We keep saying America's not this.

00:43:03.060 America's not that.

00:43:04.320 The Republican party's not this.

00:43:05.700 The Republican party's not that.

00:43:07.160 It is.

00:43:08.020 It is.

00:43:08.400 The Republican party's MAGA now.

00:43:10.460 America is a racist, sexist country.

00:43:13.380 Let's just face it.

00:43:14.160 I mean, I don't believe that there is a lie there.

00:43:18.480 So, you know, I just don't.

00:43:21.100 Um, we have any lemon heads we can talk to.

00:43:25.520 Oh, I see.

00:43:26.720 See, you guys have wasted your time with me on, on a broadcast that now has over 4 million,

00:43:32.200 um, viewers.

00:43:33.760 You should have been watching Don Lemon call you all racist and sexist and lemon heads.

00:43:38.340 If you happen to be one of his fans as they navigated through overwhelming technical difficulties,

00:43:43.700 dings from other people's computers, weird voices in the background that were drowning out

00:43:47.720 their message.

00:43:48.340 I think it was God.

00:43:49.800 I'm not going to lie.

00:43:50.680 I think the Lord intervened to try to save his followers from that brain damage that

00:43:57.100 he was inflicting on them.

00:43:58.900 It's so fun to watch.

00:44:00.640 I haven't even gotten to the New York Times article.

00:44:02.280 This is too fun.

00:44:02.940 I need to stay with us for another minute.

00:44:04.760 Okay.

00:44:05.020 While we're on the hysterical reaction, how, what kind of a discussion would be complete

00:44:09.860 if we didn't go to our old friend, Keith Olbermann and see how he's handling the news.

00:44:14.960 Let's check in.

00:44:15.840 A note about this podcast.

00:44:18.580 It will continue, but not right now.

00:44:22.260 Going to take the weekend off.

00:44:24.580 I do think the podcast has suffered from being a little conservative.

00:44:31.280 It needs to be a little bit more pointed.

00:44:34.000 It also needs to be not five days a week.

00:44:37.680 I'm getting old here and probably not daily.

00:44:40.760 So let's say this.

00:44:41.680 I'm still working on this.

00:44:43.000 I'll bring you at least two of these a week.

00:44:45.820 And definitely let's plan on this a new one every Monday morning.

00:44:50.620 Does that make sense?

00:44:52.960 I mean, you don't want to hear more about this anymore than I want to talk about this endlessly.

00:45:00.060 When something interesting happens, something you may not have heard, something that has struck some memory or perhaps some insight within me,

00:45:07.440 I will bring it to you.

00:45:08.580 Because bluntly, if the vice president had won, I was going to retire or at least semi-retire.

00:45:16.400 Can't do that now.

00:45:17.560 God damn it.

00:45:19.100 I mean, I need a nap.

00:45:22.320 OK, so he throws out at the end he might have retired, but really he's not retiring.

00:45:27.320 But he has to go from five days a week to two days a week because of Donald Trump.

00:45:32.360 So there you have it.

00:45:33.100 We are already making America great again.

00:45:35.180 A little less of Keith Olbermann because of Donald Trump.

00:45:38.380 And that's not all.

00:45:39.980 Brian Stelter tweets out the following.

00:45:43.640 Will there be a journalistic brain drain in D.C.?

00:45:47.320 Assumes facts, not in evidence, Stelter.

00:45:49.520 A talent agent said, what I have also heard anecdotally, a lot of reporters are questioning if they have it in them to report on another Trump cycle.

00:46:00.060 Now, I urge these people to try to get a grip, OK, because I guarantee you there's probably not many who have had the weird, tumultuous history with Trump that some of us have had.

00:46:13.760 And there is a way forward for you.

00:46:15.840 It's try to take your ego out of it and just report the news.

00:46:20.260 I know it's radical.

00:46:21.640 It sounds it's out there.

00:46:23.640 You might need to take advantage of some psychedelics.

00:46:26.940 I know you're already all on antidepressants from the Trump years still because it's hard to get off once you get on.

00:46:32.580 You might need to up it.

00:46:34.260 But you need to work on taking your ego out of your news reporting.

00:46:40.020 And remember that the news is not about you.

00:46:46.480 It's about them, the voters, the tens of millions of people who got out there and voted for Donald Trump.

00:46:56.820 The yes, Latino community, as J-Lo wants to remind us, she's Puerto Rican.

00:47:03.180 Not to mention Alec Baldwin's wife, who also wants us to believe that, but she's not.

00:47:08.500 And about the white working class and about black men who feel heard for the first time in a long time and don't feel shamed and kind of have had enough of being blamed for everything.

00:47:23.420 Let's not forget, remember I told you this was a very telling moment.

00:47:28.020 When I went to that event, one of those think tank things on the left, they had me speak.

00:47:32.460 Ashley Judd spoke the next day.

00:47:34.160 I was in the audience next to a black man from Ferguson, Missouri, who had spoken as well about race issues and just how he was sick of these like white saviors trying to come in after George Floyd and try to tell him how to live his life and, you know, offer him a solution.

00:47:51.360 So he's listening to Ashley Judd going, going on with her land acknowledgements and how everything is the fault of the patriarchy, the patriarchy, this, the patriarchy, that, and how the amount of abuse she's taken online.

00:48:03.960 She was at a basketball game and she tweeted out something about her team and against the other team and she got shit for it.

00:48:09.900 Hello, that's sports.

00:48:10.880 That's nothing to do with the patriarchy.

00:48:12.600 And this guy turns around and sees me there and I quote says, what the fuck is that?

00:48:20.520 That guy feels heard and did not respond to messages about the patriarchy from Kamala Harris or her supporters.

00:48:29.280 It doesn't make him racist and it doesn't make him sexist, Don.

00:48:34.620 I'm going to get to this New York Times deconstruction of the race right after this break.

00:48:39.240 And then Piers Morgan joins me.

00:48:42.600 Okay, a little bit more for you before Piers Morgan comes on.

00:48:46.720 I want to go through some of this New York Times article.

00:48:48.980 It's very interesting, actually.

00:48:51.160 And I've got some thoughts and I'm sure you will too.

00:48:53.600 How Trump won and how Harris lost by Shane Goldmacher, Maggie Haberman, and Jonathan Swan.

00:48:59.200 Jonathan Swan is fair.

00:49:00.420 These other two definitely don't like Trump and 100% thought he was going to lose.

00:49:04.560 They set it up, interestingly, they set it up right after that debate between Trump and Harris.

00:49:11.320 And it is true, as you guys remember, that Trump, you know, took every piece of bait she threw for him.

00:49:18.180 Remember, it's like she mentioned the crowd sizes and we were all like, stay on immigration, don't do it.

00:49:23.880 And he did it and it worked out fine in the end.

00:49:25.940 But you remember this and they set it up that his chief pollster, this guy, Tony Fabrizio, who's been with him forever, was bracing for bad news because the media onslaught against Trump.

00:49:38.020 You know, he did poorly and he whatever and all the things was going to hurt, he thought, in the polls.

00:49:43.780 And that he was shocked because they had almost 70 million people who viewed it, that when he saw in the next round of polls, Trump had lost no ground.

00:49:53.660 I've never seen anything like this, Mr. Fabrizio said on a call with senior campaign leaders.

00:49:59.140 It was more proof, as if more were needed, that Trump's durability over nearly a decade in politics remained and of his ability to defy the normal laws of gravity.

00:50:10.040 Correct.

00:50:11.000 Why didn't the left get a reminder of those same principles before they spent the rest of the campaign throwing out crap like Hitler and fascist?

00:50:22.880 And like, why didn't they have access to the data Tony Fabrizio did?

00:50:27.800 Were they not able to make adjustments in real time as new data came to them?

00:50:33.900 And new in quotes, apparently not.

00:50:36.260 They talk about Susie Wiles, who is Trump's campaign manager.

00:50:39.000 I met her in Palm Beach when I went down for that turning point event with Charlie Kirk, where Trump and I reunited in summer of 23.

00:50:48.180 And she seemed very smart.

00:50:51.160 She had come from years of working for DeSantis.

00:50:53.760 Things didn't end well there.

00:50:55.020 I'm not exactly sure how that went down, but this is when they were still on a primary campaign and she was thrilled to be on Team Trump.

00:51:01.720 Everyone was buzzing about how talented she was.

00:51:04.900 Of course, the biggest challenge to Susie Wiles was Trump himself, right?

00:51:08.480 Like, how do you manage a guy like Donald Trump?

00:51:11.300 Well, she managed to do it to some extent because he was largely, often, though not always, on message.

00:51:18.360 Okay, they talk about how they didn't have as much money as Team Harris, and they realized that they were going to need to run a final ad blitz when they got close to November 5th.

00:51:29.860 And they were going to have to decide how to prioritize the dough they did have in their coffers.

00:51:35.080 And what they decided to do, as you know, is to abandon a traditional ground game to turn out their voters and instead to rely on a relatively small paid staff buttressed by volunteers and outsiders, including Elon Musk.

00:51:51.400 This is so interesting because, as we now know, that worked, but it was necessary.

00:51:58.300 I didn't realize it was because they didn't have the dough.

00:52:00.880 It was necessary because they didn't.

00:52:02.940 She had a billion dollars, and Trump wasn't getting that kind of money donated to him.

00:52:07.620 So they took a gamble on outsourcing the ground game and using their money for the final ad blitz, and then they get to what the ads did, and that is very interesting.

00:52:19.500 They also point out he gambled on mobilizing men, men, men, men, men, men, and it paid off bigly.

00:52:27.060 Okay, they talk about for here now Kamala Harris's initial approach and how schizophrenic she was in the messaging against Trump.

00:52:36.020 First, she tried minimizing him by mocking him as weird and unserious.

00:52:39.960 Think about the fact that that word weird is what got Tim Walz picked, and no one thought to check whether that was a projection.

00:52:47.960 Truly, like, didn't anyone, I know it was a short time, like, talk to people who knew Tim Walz to say, is he weird?

00:52:58.900 What's, like, why is he putting tampons in the boys' bathrooms?

00:53:02.260 Why has he made his state a trans refuge?

00:53:06.540 Like, what do people say about this guy?

00:53:08.500 What are the controversies?

00:53:09.660 Oh, a bunch of stolen valor incidents.

00:53:12.020 Maybe that's not great for us.

00:53:13.860 No, okay, he got hired, and weird was the opening message.

00:53:17.460 Didn't stick, probably because of who he is and who she is.

00:53:21.880 Then she switched to a more populist message.

00:53:24.340 Trump cared only about his rich friends, and she's going to bring down the price of groceries.

00:53:28.700 This isn't in the piece, but then you guys all know, she unleashed that plan, and she started getting hit by the left, by the Washington Post, for sounding like a communist.

00:53:39.740 And by the way, while Trump may have, quote, helped his rich friends with the Trump tax cuts, they were universal.

00:53:45.920 And when you give tax cuts to the jobs creators, they create more jobs.

00:53:50.560 Trump has explained this on his, you know, rally speeches many times.

00:53:53.760 He's not afraid of this at all.

00:53:55.600 If you were in the lower income brackets, you saw a double-digit tax break, which is a far less percentage than the rich people saw.

00:54:01.740 Obviously, it's proportional, but that didn't work.

00:54:05.200 People understood they were doing better in Trump's four years, and they didn't listen to it.

00:54:08.840 Then she finally pivoted again to fascist, and we all saw how that worked out.

00:54:13.400 So then they point out some finger-pointing emerged from the wreckage of all this, including over whether Ms. Harris had focused too much on appealing to wayward Republicans or whether Biden had dealt her an unwinnable hand.

00:54:27.240 Then they quote, interestingly, David Plouffe.

00:54:29.860 You guys know David.

00:54:30.560 He's been on the program.

00:54:31.360 He had a podcast with Kellyanne Conway for a short time before the switcheroo, the coup.

00:54:35.620 Then he got elevated to go co-run her campaign.

00:54:38.280 He helped get Obama elected, and they quote him as saying, we dug out of a deep hole, but not enough.

00:54:44.760 We dug out of a deep hole, but not enough.

00:54:46.360 Well, that's a dig at Joe Biden, quite clearly justified, but he's now deleted his ex-account, so I don't think it went over well with his people.

00:54:59.440 Sometimes that kind of honesty in the New York Times can come back to bite you if you are of the left.

00:55:04.760 They write about how, to everyone's amazement, Trump's conviction on 34 felony counts gave him rocket fuel, financial rocket fuel.

00:55:17.840 Small donors poured $50 million into his coffers in 24 hours, and then his main super PAC was informed by its bank that someone had made, I didn't know this,

00:55:29.980 a different, separate, $50 million wire transfer the day after the conviction.

00:55:36.920 But they didn't know who it was, and they had to track that down because we can't take money in these campaigns from foreign sources.

00:55:42.380 It can't be like all the Russians, you know, because they'd really like you to come in and side with them.

00:55:47.740 So that's so interesting, and I guess eventually it was determined that it was from the reclusive billionaire Timothy Mellon.

00:55:54.140 So Timothy Mellon is a good person to have on your side.

00:55:58.220 He might give you $50 million if he feels enough empathy for what you've been through.

00:56:03.600 Go, Timothy!

00:56:06.140 Then they talk about the outsourcing of the ground game and how they were doing the calculation of how much it would cost,

00:56:14.680 that the field op in 2020 cost more than $130 million, and they just couldn't do it.

00:56:20.380 They understood that, and Kamala Harris had way more people in the field and more money,

00:56:25.160 but they had to be, you know, careful with their spending.

00:56:30.320 Okay, Fabrizio's internal polling continued to tell him that Trump had a consistent lead.

00:56:37.260 He was seeing the same polls, all of us.

00:56:39.600 He was, I'm sure, reading Nate Silver and FiveThirtyEight and New York Times-Siena,

00:56:43.860 and Emerson, Emerson wound up being quite accurate, and Seltzer predicted a three-point Harris victory in Iowa.

00:56:51.660 It was a 13-point Trump, wait, no, is it 16, you guys?

00:56:56.580 It was in my packet this morning.

00:56:58.180 16 points, I think, Trump victory in Iowa.

00:57:01.980 I'll look it up.

00:57:02.600 My team's going to look it up now.

00:57:04.020 She was way off.

00:57:05.680 Emerson predicted a 10-point victory.

00:57:08.780 So Fabrizio was showing internal polling that looked good.

00:57:11.420 And I saw some of that internal polling when I saw Trump in Pittsburgh the night before the vote,

00:57:15.900 and they were showing me.

00:57:17.080 Yeah, okay, so Trump won Iowa by 13.

00:57:19.240 So she was 10 points off.

00:57:21.200 Emerson showed Trump up 10.

00:57:23.420 So they were only, what?

00:57:26.560 She was six.

00:57:28.120 Oh, that's why 16's in my head.

00:57:29.600 Steve Krakauer is explaining math to me.

00:57:31.660 He won Iowa by 13.

00:57:33.860 She had predicted Harris would win by three,

00:57:36.560 so that's a 16-point error on her part.

00:57:40.180 Go Ann.

00:57:41.500 Anyway, Tony knew the truth.

00:57:43.160 And Trump's team was saying to me and others,

00:57:45.640 don't believe Ann.

00:57:47.000 And boy, oh boy, were they right.

00:57:49.200 Okay, now they mentioned in here that his top advisors said,

00:57:53.620 do not come out in favor of a national abortion ban.

00:57:55.860 That is absolute suicide.

00:57:57.600 They looked at the blue wall states and saw that they were much more pro-choice

00:58:01.000 and that Trump was absolutely going to need at least one of those to win this election.

00:58:04.700 And Trump, to his credit, said, you are right.

00:58:06.740 I am not going to favor a national abortion ban.

00:58:09.220 Remember when we debated that on the show?

00:58:11.320 When he came out and said it's a state's issues issue?

00:58:14.480 And so many people were very angry with him when we debated it right here.

00:58:18.080 And I remember arguing, saying that's just good politics.

00:58:20.980 It's a career suicide for Republicans right now to come out and call for that kind of thing.

00:58:26.240 Nor do they have the power to do it.

00:58:28.180 Anyway, Trump made the right call.

00:58:29.860 They were banking on, among others, younger men who don't typically vote coming into the Trump

00:58:37.500 fold, especially those struggling with inflation, those alienated, quoting here,

00:58:43.560 by left-wing ideology, and those pessimistic about the country.

00:58:48.920 And they talked about Trump's reach out on all these male podcasts and Rogan and so on,

00:58:53.460 that Harris decided to mobilize the women, Michelle Obama, Julia Roberts.

00:58:57.100 We saw how that went.

00:58:57.960 And this is the part I really wanted to get to.

00:59:01.040 Then Trump put out that trans ad, the one on all the NFL games.

00:59:08.240 Here it is.

00:59:09.720 It was devastating to her.

00:59:13.200 Watch it.

00:59:15.800 Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners.

00:59:19.500 Surgery.

00:59:21.000 For prisoners.

00:59:22.080 For prisoners.

00:59:22.640 Every transgender inmate in the prison system would have access.

00:59:28.800 It's hard to believe, but it's true.

00:59:30.720 Even the liberal media was shocked Kamala supports taxpayer-funded sex changes for prisoners and

00:59:36.080 illegal aliens.

00:59:37.500 Every transgender inmate would have access.

00:59:40.580 Kamala's for they-them.

00:59:42.240 President Trump is for you.

00:59:43.700 I'm Donald J. Trump, and I approve this message.

00:59:45.900 It was the, it was one half of the most effective pair of ads that were unleashed in this campaign.

00:59:56.000 The follow-up was showing Charlemagne reacting to that, saying, oh my God, what?

01:00:01.360 That, no.

01:00:02.760 So they put both of those out, and they were running everywhere.

01:00:05.580 And her team went into a panic because they were showing what Team Trump was showing,

01:00:09.480 which was it was moving the needle, and people were getting PO'd.

01:00:12.800 Because she is that liberal.

01:00:14.320 She is dangerously liberal.

01:00:15.800 There wasn't one false word in that ad.

01:00:18.500 Not one.

01:00:18.980 You guys know that.

01:00:20.580 And so they talked about how she, that they, it was, it was proving effective, especially

01:00:25.400 with blacks, Latino men, and also with moderate suburban white women.

01:00:31.380 All the groups that put Trump over the edge here.

01:00:34.060 They responded severely to that ad, not only because of how left she was, but it was a stand-in

01:00:39.700 for her radical trans ideology in general.

01:00:42.300 And the radical trans ideology that has been permeating our schools and our community for

01:00:47.980 far too long, people have had it.

01:00:50.440 And so her team went into a panic.

01:00:52.340 They created their own draft ads to respond to it.

01:00:55.660 They tested terribly, according to the Times, with their focus groups.

01:00:59.480 Nobody was persuaded by her response, and they tanked their responsive ads.

01:01:04.000 Bill Clinton stepped in and said, we've got to answer it and say we won't do it.

01:01:08.940 But she couldn't find that message, and she never said she wouldn't do it.

01:01:13.820 Never said it.

01:01:15.220 And it's because it wasn't true.

01:01:17.540 And to her credit, I guess, in this particular instance, she wasn't willing to lie.

01:01:21.900 It ends by talking about how Obama really thought she should talk more about her personal bio.

01:01:27.440 Barry, that wasn't it.

01:01:29.120 Okay?

01:01:29.580 We heard a lot about her personal bio.

01:01:31.140 Middle-class family.

01:01:32.180 The neighbor who came to help them so she understands small businesses.

01:01:35.280 Her mother.

01:01:36.380 Her sister.

01:01:37.880 We don't need...

01:01:38.740 You know, the stuff we heard, half it turned out not to be true.

01:01:42.540 She wasn't actually middle-class.

01:01:44.000 She was raised in Canada, not Oakland.

01:01:46.200 And she probably never worked at McDonald's.

01:01:48.820 So, not it.

01:01:49.620 Once again, out of touch, Barack.

01:01:51.700 She goes on The View and has that moment where she won't distance herself from Biden.

01:01:55.720 And they say that Trump's advisors rejoiced.

01:02:00.040 They were stunned.

01:02:01.460 She did not have a ready-made answer for such a foreseeable and important question.

01:02:06.520 And they decided to get that clip seen by as many voters as possible.

01:02:09.840 By that afternoon, it had been sent to up to 10 million voters via text message.

01:02:15.760 Trump's approval ratings were getting rosier.

01:02:18.660 The pollsters on Team Harris were in a panic for a new label for Trump.

01:02:23.040 Dangerous was one that was proposed, but they said that's to Hillary.

01:02:27.320 Weeks of deliberations on what term they should use left some participants on Team Harris frustrated

01:02:32.380 and exhausted by the inability to reach a decision.

01:02:35.520 Remember Kamala Harris?

01:02:36.980 My weakness is how much I debate things with smart advisors.

01:02:40.460 It's my strength.

01:02:41.220 It's my strength weakness.

01:02:42.160 And they settled on unhinged, unstable, and unchecked.

01:02:46.960 Ads featuring that tagline soon followed, but got immediately second-guessed.

01:02:53.640 And then Ms. Harris decided to change the messaging again to fascist.

01:02:59.520 That didn't work either, as you know.

01:03:04.440 And nothing in here explains any of the loss other than that.

01:03:08.900 They just talk about the messaging and the dueling political strategies.

01:03:12.340 Look, the state of the economy, the state of the border, and the state of the cultural left is what cost the Democrats this race.

01:03:23.640 Picking an absolute moron to run against a behemoth, strong leader like Trump was equally stupid.

01:03:32.640 And Trump's innate political talents, the best in a generation, required none of those things to be present in order to take him down.

01:03:40.240 That's the sum and substance of how this race went south, but it's absolutely delicious to hear more about what was going on on the inside.

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01:04:52.900 Piers Morgan, host of Piers Morgan Uncensored, is with me now.

01:04:57.240 So, Piers, the New York Times takes us through the panic inside Team Harris when Trump unleashed those trans ads showing how far left she was.

01:05:08.060 They did not know how to handle it.

01:05:10.000 They wanted.

01:05:10.620 Bill Clinton said she should deny that she's in support of it.

01:05:14.540 She couldn't and didn't.

01:05:17.780 Do you think that's in part why she lost?

01:05:20.260 And why do you think the race ended the way it did?

01:05:22.380 Yeah, I actually think it's a really significant part of why she lost, because I think on the one hand, she was trying to tell American women, I am the only candidate that will protect women's rights.

01:05:32.160 I'm your candidate.

01:05:33.700 And using abortion as the reason for doing that and the overturning of Roe versus Wade.

01:05:38.780 But at the same time, Kamala Harris has been very strongly supportive of allowing trans athletes to compete in women's sport, as has Joe Biden.

01:05:47.800 And there is no greater, more unfair or unequal thing in the world than allowing biological males to compete against women in sport, as we saw in the Paris Olympics, where boxers with male chromosomes were literally beating up women in front of our eyes to the extent that one of them quit after 40 seconds of a bout, because she said she'd never been hit that hard in her life.

01:06:13.540 And that opponent went on to win gold medal in a women's competition.

01:06:17.700 It's so grotesquely unfair.

01:06:19.680 So I just kept saying, I don't really get this.

01:06:21.560 How can you be the party that supports women's rights and be the great protector and defender of women's rights, but also support this?

01:06:31.720 So I think that a lot of women went, you know what, they're not actually in the corner for us.

01:06:36.660 Kamala Harris talks a good game about women's rights.

01:06:39.160 But when it comes to it, she's quite happy for biological males to smash our faces in.

01:06:44.580 You know, back in the day when I was on the primetime of Fox and you were on the primetime of CNN, a couple of hours after our shows ended, late night comics would come on and they occasionally would make us laugh, Pierce.

01:06:58.160 I mean, occasionally they understood that they were in the game of making everyone laugh.

01:07:01.580 As you know, they've abandoned that game now and they're just political operatives out there.

01:07:06.080 Colbert, Kimmel, Seth Meyers, who I, I mean, I struggled to even mention that guy's name.

01:07:11.140 He's such an absolute, absolute prick.

01:07:13.380 I can't stand him.

01:07:14.440 But anyway, it's just my thought bubble out loud.

01:07:18.080 We took a look at some of their reactions to the news of Trump's win.

01:07:22.700 Look at this.

01:07:25.020 Hey there.

01:07:27.180 How are you doing?

01:07:28.040 If you watch the show regularly, I'm guessing you're not doing great.

01:07:34.240 Yeah, me neither.

01:07:35.560 Let's be honest.

01:07:36.400 It was a terrible night last night.

01:07:38.260 It was a terrible night for women, for children, for the hundreds of thousands of hardworking immigrants who make this country go.

01:07:47.280 For health care, for our climate.

01:07:50.100 It was a terrible night for poor people, for our allies in Ukraine, for NATO.

01:07:56.000 Well, then guess what?

01:07:57.360 It was a bad night for everyone who voted for him, too.

01:07:59.520 You just don't realize it yet.

01:08:00.700 He said he would be a dictator on day one.

01:08:02.440 The question now is, what will the rest of us be doing on day one?

01:08:07.160 Now's the time to stand in solidarity with our friends, with our neighbors.

01:08:11.680 Well, it happened.

01:08:17.240 Again.

01:08:17.680 And in this democracy, the majority has spoken, and they said they don't care that much about democracy.

01:08:23.840 The first time Donald Trump was elected, he started as a joke and ended as a tragedy.

01:08:29.640 This time he starts as a tragedy.

01:08:32.440 Who knows what he'll end as?

01:08:35.960 Any comforting words for them, Piers?

01:08:37.620 Just get over yourselves.

01:08:41.640 Honestly, it's so pathetic watching grown men weep, because actually the real reason they're weeping is that they know they've spent years over-demonizing Trump as the new Hitler, and he's going to wreck everything and wreck America.

01:08:56.760 He's terrible.

01:08:57.520 He's a fascist.

01:08:58.320 He's a neo-Nazi.

01:08:59.400 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:09:00.960 And what happened this week?

01:09:03.100 America, having already seen Trump as president for four years, and seen four years of what then followed under Biden and Harris, they went out in record numbers, white, black, Latino, men, women, all demographics, and they voted for, apparently, the new Hitler.

01:09:21.660 In other words, they didn't believe a word of what these guys were saying.

01:09:24.600 And I would say further, Megan, what the hell happened in late night in America?

01:09:28.860 When Johnny Carson was the king of late night, nobody knew who he voted for.

01:09:33.360 Nobody knew.

01:09:34.360 He made a point of mocking both sides.

01:09:37.500 Jay Leno said yesterday, he said, I don't like Trump, but it was a great week for democracy.

01:09:42.200 And salute to Jay Leno.

01:09:43.660 I interviewed him last year about this.

01:09:45.180 He doesn't understand why these late night guys want to be so obviously partisan.

01:09:51.000 Why?

01:09:51.280 And they're all partisan one way.

01:09:52.620 And there's a reason why Greg Gutfeld is kicking all their backsides in late night on Fox.

01:09:59.140 And it's because he's genuinely funny.

01:10:01.380 He's a comedian.

01:10:02.600 These guys think they're sort of preaching to some weird choir that wants them to be terribly serious and take all this very personally when their guy or woman, in this case, doesn't win an election.

01:10:14.160 We don't give a stuff.

01:10:16.180 Just be funny.

01:10:17.400 And one of the things, I don't watch any of them anymore, but I see the clips.

01:10:21.160 They're so worthy.

01:10:22.680 The virtue signaling is so pathetic.

01:10:25.300 Get over yourselves and go back to being funny.

01:10:27.700 I think the ship has sailed for these guys.

01:10:29.540 And it's interesting, isn't it?

01:10:30.460 They talk about inclusion and diversity and all that.

01:10:34.140 They're all middle-aged white guys.

01:10:36.000 Have you noticed?

01:10:36.660 All of them.

01:10:37.460 Yeah, exactly.

01:10:38.620 My advice is, if you believe in diversity, get a few more diverse people in there who can actually make me laugh.

01:10:45.640 Yeah, right, exactly.

01:10:47.860 No, what they want with that virtue signaling is for you to rub their belly.

01:10:51.620 They want the leftist elites to rub their little pupper bellies.

01:10:56.220 That's what they're looking for.

01:10:57.180 Please rub my pupper belly.

01:10:58.520 Oh, it feels so good.

01:10:59.660 I'm so much better than everybody else.

01:11:01.140 Those losers who voted for that evil man, Trump.

01:11:03.960 And you see it in the comment by Colbert.

01:11:06.720 And it was also a terrible night for you people who voted for him.

01:11:10.680 You're basically just too stupid to know it then.

01:11:13.260 I mean, he said, well, you just don't realize it yet.

01:11:16.200 Like, you're not smart like I am.

01:11:19.960 No, it's so delusional and so patronizing.

01:11:25.040 And he sort of assumed everyone's had a bad night.

01:11:27.980 Hey, Stephen, buddy, over 70 million people voted Trump.

01:11:33.000 Massively more voted for Trump than voted for your girl, Kamala.

01:11:36.840 And you know what?

01:11:37.720 That means most Americans are not feeling like you.

01:11:40.760 They're not.

01:11:41.720 They're feeling happy because their person won.

01:11:44.720 And the reason their person won is because this whole, as Elon Musk calls it, the woke

01:11:49.940 mind virus has actually, I think, with this election result, been eradicated.

01:11:55.480 We found a cure.

01:11:56.540 It's true.

01:11:57.000 And the cure is Donald Trump backed by Elon Musk and Joe Rogan and these other guys who

01:12:03.180 actually, Rogan and Musk both used to be Democrats, really.

01:12:07.860 But they just got sick and tired of the progressive left and this woke mentality, which is the kind

01:12:14.120 of thing which not only tolerates but actively encourages biological men to beat up women in

01:12:19.840 boxing rings in the Olympics, it's that mentality, which I think this election result has literally

01:12:27.700 shown the world it's over.

01:12:30.020 People don't want to have this crap anymore.

01:12:33.260 I put myself in that same category.

01:12:35.400 I used to be more on the left socially, at least.

01:12:38.400 And it was the woke mind virus that completely destroyed that for me.

01:12:42.080 And I'm, you know, became much more active on these social issues once they started hurting

01:12:46.340 our children and ruining people's careers.

01:12:50.060 You speak of the white middle-aged men who are lecturing us about diversity and so on.

01:12:55.480 I got another one for you.

01:12:56.680 His name is Lawrence O'Donnell of MSNBC.

01:12:59.280 Take a listen to this top 14.

01:13:00.140 Oh, my God.

01:13:02.100 When he was editor of the newspaper, The North Star, Frederick Douglass wrote,

01:13:07.100 We hold woman to be justly entitled to all we claim for man.

01:13:13.540 That was a very unpopular opinion among white men in this country at that time.

01:13:19.580 And it remains an unpopular opinion among some white men in this country to this day.

01:13:26.380 It may be that not enough people in this country yet believe in the full equality of women to

01:13:32.260 elect a woman president of the United States.

01:13:34.660 Thoughts on that?

01:13:39.580 No, it's not because she's a woman.

01:13:42.240 And it's not because she's a black woman.

01:13:45.040 It's because she was a useless candidate.

01:13:47.500 And by the way, the Democrats knew that because when she tried to run before for their nominee,

01:13:52.600 she got bounced out in the first round.

01:13:54.580 She then became a vice president and was hugely unpopular and was working under a president

01:13:59.940 whose approval rating was in the tank.

01:14:01.840 And that is the person they decided to coronate without any democratic process as their candidate

01:14:07.500 to take on Donald Trump.

01:14:08.920 They brought all this on themselves.

01:14:11.220 I mean, I was watching MSNBC for a few minutes last night as an act of willful self-torture.

01:14:16.380 And what made me laugh was they were trying to explain to each other, Rachel Maddow and I think

01:14:21.720 Lawrence was there, all there, whining away.

01:14:24.000 And they were trying to explain how Trump had won the Latino vote while simultaneously,

01:14:29.600 according to them, being the most racist human being to ever run for a high office in America.

01:14:34.280 And of course, the reason is because people do not think he is the person that they depict

01:14:40.220 him as.

01:14:40.840 They don't think he's a Nazi.

01:14:42.500 They don't think he's a fascist.

01:14:44.120 They don't think he's the most racist person to ever run for office.

01:14:47.000 That's why Trump won so big with Latinos and why so many more black voters came out for

01:14:52.100 him.

01:14:52.540 And when it comes to fascism, as you and I have discussed before, Megan, is there any

01:14:57.060 more purer embodiment of fascism than the woke mindset, which is you dress like we say

01:15:03.400 you will.

01:15:04.160 You talk like we say you will.

01:15:06.060 You laugh at jokes that we approve.

01:15:08.040 You read books that we approve.

01:15:09.860 You watch television and movies that we approve.

01:15:11.840 And if you don't do all these things, we will absolutely annihilate you.

01:15:16.920 We'll shame you.

01:15:17.980 We'll vilify you.

01:15:19.060 We'll humiliate you.

01:15:20.260 We'll cancel you.

01:15:21.320 We'll get you fired from your jobs.

01:15:23.120 That is the embodiment of fascism.

01:15:26.160 So the fascists are not actually Trump and MAGA and his supporters.

01:15:31.440 It's actually Kamala Harris and the woke followers of hers who have pursued a philosophy of fascism

01:15:38.720 now for years.

01:15:39.880 And what we saw with this election result is that mindset getting crushed.

01:15:44.540 The woke mind virus has been cured, Megan.

01:15:48.280 It's a day to celebrate.

01:15:50.660 OK, so on that subject, what what happens next?

01:15:54.920 Because the so-called elites in the Democratic Party, like Lawrence O'Donnell, I mean, Joy

01:15:59.500 Reid was one of the ones you mentioned.

01:16:01.100 She was out there blaming Latinos for wanting to be white.

01:16:04.140 That's that's why they voted.

01:16:05.320 They want to be white.

01:16:06.300 Sure.

01:16:06.900 OK, so they're not letting go.

01:16:08.300 They're not letting go to the of the of the virus.

01:16:10.700 But like the Democrat voters seem to have let go of it.

01:16:14.120 And I think party bosses are going to understand that they're never going to win elections again

01:16:19.400 unless they let go of it.

01:16:21.420 And you can't just let go of it in the campaign because that's what she just did.

01:16:24.800 She didn't tout this stuff in the campaign.

01:16:26.820 She just did it the entire time she was vice president and her party did as well.

01:16:30.640 So do you think they actually will move away from it because they have to if they want to be in power again?

01:16:37.720 Or do you think that they that they won't?

01:16:41.740 They're captured.

01:16:42.280 And it's really kind of hard to extract the virus once it's in your brain.

01:16:46.780 Well, I watched AOC giving her views, which are always most entertaining when they've just had another crushing defeat.

01:16:53.100 And she was whining away again about Trump and he's a fascist and this.

01:16:56.800 And all I thought was, wow, you really haven't got the memo, have you?

01:17:00.640 It's people like you that America is now rebelling against.

01:17:04.980 It's the way that you think and the way that you talk and the hypocrisy which underpins almost everything that you stand for.

01:17:12.760 That is what America is moving away from.

01:17:15.680 So to me, the Democrats have got a very straightforward choice.

01:17:18.700 They have got to find a more centrist candidate who is actually electable.

01:17:22.640 It's interesting to me that Bill Clinton apparently tried to, in that report you were talking about, tried to advise the Democrat leadership.

01:17:29.860 Look, you've got to make a stand about this transport issue.

01:17:33.240 You've got to say it can't go on.

01:17:35.420 And they refused.

01:17:36.880 So they were trapped in it.

01:17:38.480 But actually, Clinton was right.

01:17:40.820 And they're going to need to find a new version of Bill Clinton.

01:17:43.960 If they do that, they can have a chance in four years time.

01:17:47.000 If they remain trapped in the mindset of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, then they're going to get another drubbing in four years time, probably from J.D. Vance.

01:17:57.760 So they've got a choice.

01:17:59.460 You know, Republicans won't care if they remain trapped in there.

01:18:02.780 But for the sake of America, you would hope that you would have an effective opposition and an effective opponent next time around who actually doesn't alienate most of the country with this woke garbage.

01:18:14.060 I mean, it's going to be fun for people like us because the woke mind virus has been deemed by the voters to be politically toxic.

01:18:23.160 So it's a win-win either way.

01:18:25.200 Either they totally abandon it and we've completely won on this issue, as we should have, or they stick with it and they never win elections again because they're just going to keep repeating the same bad mistakes over and over again.

01:18:36.420 Either way, Piers, it's a great day.

01:18:38.040 It's a great day for America and for the world.

01:18:39.940 You know, it's a day that was coming.

01:18:44.100 I could feel it, like I did in 2016.

01:18:46.860 There was something so elitist about Kamala Harris's campaign.

01:18:51.780 When she started rolling out all the big celebrities, Taylor Swift, Oprah, George Clooney, the usual suspects, we know that playbook didn't work with Hillary Clinton.

01:18:59.760 And when you coupled that with the abandonment of the hope and joy message, very quickly morphing into he's the new Hitler, which, again, was exactly what Hillary Clinton's campaign ran on back in 2016.

01:19:11.740 I thought, well, they've learned absolutely nothing.

01:19:14.740 They're over-demonizing Trump again.

01:19:16.900 They're insulting his supporters.

01:19:18.680 And they're rolling out a bunch of multimillionaire, billionaire in some cases, celebrities to anoint them publicly as if somehow the average working American who is really struggling with this cost of living crisis and raging inflation for years to put food on the table for their kids is going to look at this and think, wow.

01:19:37.500 So these billionaires say I should vote for Kamala Harris, who can't seem to articulate a single policy which will make my life any better.

01:19:45.740 I must go off and do that.

01:19:47.580 No.

01:19:48.000 What they actually said was, well, stuff that for a game of soldiers.

01:19:51.240 I'm going to go and vote for Trump because last time I checked, he was in a garbage truck and a McDonald's, and he seems to understand what we really care about, which is actually working class stuff like how do we feed our kids?

01:20:03.620 And he's going to fix it, hopefully, and he'll stop the mayhem on the border.

01:20:07.500 I mean, that's why he won.

01:20:10.280 Brilliant.

01:20:11.040 As always, Pierce, great to see you.

01:20:14.400 Great to see you, Megan.

01:20:15.420 Take care.

01:20:16.560 All right.

01:20:17.080 Coming up in a minute, we're going to have Bajia Angersargan, but I do want to say a couple things on what Pierce is saying.

01:20:21.940 He's totally right.

01:20:23.140 I love talking to him.

01:20:24.800 And on the billionaire front, you know, I was thinking about this because who, obviously, Trump is a billionaire.

01:20:30.140 It's different.

01:20:31.140 Nobody ever questioned any sane person that he understood the working class.

01:20:34.920 I mean, that was why he got elected in 16.

01:20:37.820 Billionaire, though he may be, he understands the working class and worked very hard to help them and created 400,000 new manufacturing jobs.

01:20:45.300 But who is the big billionaire behind Trump's campaign?

01:20:47.800 It was Elon Musk, who's the richest man in the world.

01:20:50.960 And what was Elon Musk saying to us?

01:20:52.960 What has he been saying all along?

01:20:54.180 Free speech.

01:20:55.060 I want to make sure that you can speak.

01:20:56.780 You can say what you want to say, even if it's controversial.

01:20:59.260 That's why I bought Twitter, which wasn't a good business investment for me at all, to make it easier for you to do that.

01:21:06.380 And two, I would like to work for you.

01:21:09.740 I would like to work for you.

01:21:11.560 Would you please hire me?

01:21:12.800 You don't have to pay me anything.

01:21:13.980 I would like to go to work to make your life better.

01:21:17.220 I would like to find efficiencies in government.

01:21:19.920 I would like to cut down on red tape.

01:21:22.760 And when we find efficiencies in government, you know why companies, my brother used to do this.

01:21:26.840 You know why they bring in somebody who is an expert on finding efficiencies?

01:21:30.160 Because, yes, it could potentially mean that some people lose their jobs, and then those people will move to the private sector if they're in government.

01:21:37.700 And Elon's spoken to that, trying to find a good sort of safe road for them to go from one to the other, where they're supported somewhat by the taxpayer.

01:21:45.100 We need to give them a soft landing.

01:21:46.860 We don't just go fire a bunch of federal employees for nothing and hurt them on the way out.

01:21:50.620 But we do need to slim down the government.

01:21:53.360 So we find the efficiencies.

01:21:54.820 You know what happens?

01:21:55.600 Is we save money.

01:21:56.980 We save a lot of money.

01:21:59.020 And the company starts doing better.

01:22:01.180 And the company in this particular situation is the United States of America.

01:22:04.640 And as you know, we have massive amounts of debt.

01:22:07.300 And if we don't start finding efficiencies in our big, big company, it's going to go bankrupt.

01:22:13.120 That's Trump's billionaire offering to work for us, as opposed to come in all glammed up and say,

01:22:19.940 Kamala Harris, as Oprah just shouted at us over and over, trying to tell us we had to do what she said.

01:22:26.440 Well, that didn't work.

01:22:27.640 It's never going to work.

01:22:29.940 And God bless America, because they saw right through it.

01:22:34.580 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - November 07, 2024

Megyn's Biggest Losers of 2024 Election, and Pathetic Kimmel Cries Over Trump, with Donald Trump Jr. and Piers Morgan ｜ Ep. 938

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