Meltdown Over Patriotic UFC at White House, with Glenn Greenwald, and Justin Baldoni's Attorney Bryan Freedman Gives Exclusive Details of Settlement ｜ Ep. 1339
Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively win big in their defamation case against each other, but a judge also grants a request for attorney's fees to Blake Lively in the case of her defamation suit against Justin Baldoni. Plus, the latest on the latest in the UFC vs. The New York Knicks vs. UFC and the NBA vs. the UFC.
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00:01:26.340Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
00:01:38.020Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Happy Monday
00:01:41.480on another very busy news day. Some incredible sports stories over the weekend. They even made
00:01:47.360their way into my lane. So, you know, they were big from UFC fight night at the White House to
00:01:52.660the New York Knicks winning the NBA championship. It's unbelievable. It's like it's been almost,
00:01:59.280well, it's been over 50 years, incredibly. But we begin today with an exclusive here on the MK
00:02:03.980show. And that is some breaking news and an exclusive document to reveal in the Justin
00:02:10.400Baldoni, Blake Lively saga. As we reported Friday, Judge Louis Lyman granting Blake Lively's
00:02:17.140request for attorney's fees on the defamation claim that was filed by Justin Baldoni against
00:02:24.880her. She sued him for sexual harassment. He counterclaimed for defamation. And she got that
00:02:32.020counterclaim dismissed before virtually all of her claims were dismissed. And under this weird
00:02:38.320California law that entitles her potentially to attorney's fees. All right. It sounded like a
00:02:45.540like a victory, right? But remember that Baldoni and the judge said, yes, you can have the fees
00:02:51.320to Blake Lively. But Baldoni's defamation claim was only active for less than five months. So
00:02:59.480that's just a small part of the 18 months of high price litigation between the parties.
00:03:04.180Justin Baldoni, on the other hand, got himself a major win on Friday when Judge Lyman denied
00:03:10.440Blake Lively's request for punitive damages against him, damages meant to punish him
00:03:16.220or for a tripling of damages that she also argued she was entitled to when it comes to her
00:03:22.980actual sustained damages. So she had a couple of other categories of damages that she wanted
00:03:29.120him to pay her outside of her attorney's fees. And this judge said it's a no.
00:03:34.260Now, as we've been reporting, Blake Lively's request, all of those requests for attorney's fees and these other damages was rooted in this California Civil Code 47.1, which is a law passed to protect victims of sexual harassment from being deterred to go public with their stories thanks to a powerful defendant who sues them for defamation.
00:03:58.600It's basically like you work for a man, you're going to claim sexual harassment by said man.
00:04:05.600The law is trying to discourage said man from trying to bully you out of filing that litigation with a defamation case against you.
00:04:13.060I mean, the whole thinking behind this provision, and we spoke with the woman who dreamed it up and architected it, was to protect less powerful women from more powerful men.
00:04:23.880or you could reverse the genders depending on the situation, but the less powerful from the
00:04:27.680more powerful who use defamation in an effort to silence and make the whole process impossible.
00:04:34.780You tell me, who's more powerful, who's richer, who's better connected between Justin Baldoni,
00:04:41.560whose name you probably never heard of unless you watched, was it Jane the Virgin and Blake
00:04:47.300Lively married to Ryan Reynolds and at that time best friends with Taylor Swift. Okay,
00:04:52.360so she misused this entire thing, but that's where we were, okay? This was never meant to
00:04:58.620protect multimillionaire movie stars like Blake Lively, but she saw an opportunity. We heard
00:05:04.080that from the architect of the law herself who came on this program and said, Blake's people
00:05:08.060came to her, the architect, and said, she wants to be the face of it. She wants to partner with you
00:05:13.680to take your law national, and she's going to show the world how she's an advocate for Me Too
00:05:19.080victims nationwide. And this woman said, stay the hell away from me and my law. It's actually1.00
00:05:24.880working out OK for some plaintiff or some some women here in California. And I've gotten it0.89
00:05:30.020passed in a couple of other states. And I don't want your help. You'll only draw negative attention
00:05:34.520to it. No one sees you as a Me Too victim. And she said, I didn't want her to met gala my law.
00:05:40.800I totally got it. Now, Lively's 47.1 motion, the motion for all these fees and costs, was
00:05:49.520the only part of the case that was not part of the settlement the two sides reached last month.
00:05:56.540Okay, so this is the one piece she said, I'm not settling this. In other words,
00:06:01.340Justin, I'll still be coming after you for attorney's fees. And it's safe to say that
00:06:05.220Blake Lively thought she would prevail.
00:06:08.060Here is her attorney, Michael Gottlieb,
00:06:11.000the day after the settlement was announced,
00:20:31.920I think that the parties got to the point
00:20:35.420where it said, what are we fighting over at this point?
00:20:40.620Let's reach a result. Let's reach a settlement. Let's move on. Let's, you know, let's live our
00:20:45.780lives. And and not. But she says here, her lawyer says, though, Brian, you heard him in that in that
00:20:51.940clip with Matt. He says this that her most potent and powerful claim is this bid for a fee for fees,
00:21:01.440etc. And that the retaliation now, he says, was Justin's cross claim for defamation. Like
00:21:09.300just get real honest here. That's not what she claimed was the retaliation in her case,
00:21:16.180was it? I read the claim. It's been a while, but the retaliation seemed to have been all
00:21:20.740those other allegations she made about how mean Justin was after she accused him and his business
00:21:29.360partners of sexually harassing her and like a nasty press campaign that she could never
00:21:34.060prove he orchestrated? You know, there were a lot of positions taken in the case at various times
00:21:40.160during the case. Sometimes it was a case about sexual harassment. When the summary judgment
00:21:46.240motion was, you know, granted, it became a case about the smear campaign. It was a moving target
00:21:55.260throughout. But notwithstanding any of that, I think everyone would agree that moving on,
00:22:03.200and allowing people to live their lives and do better and be better is the way to go.
00:22:12.280I don't think she would agree with that. That's why her lawyer's out there saying
00:22:17.560they're going to try to get every last cent from Justin. I mean, they clearly want to make him
00:22:24.880suffer. They're not happy that they had to settle. This is my own gleaning. They're not happy they
00:22:29.640had to settle. They knew that it was the best move for Blake rather than have her subjected
00:22:33.960to cross-examination and her reputation already in tatters. It would be even more so. But they're
00:22:39.920pissed. That's how I read this. And here's more from her lawyer. You certainly sound like you're
00:22:46.240ready to move on and sound like your normal, sane, classy self. I got a different vibe listening to
00:22:52.520him. Here he is again, back with Matt Belloni on his podcast, The Town, Sot4.
00:23:02.300So what are you hoping to get here? Give me a best case scenario dollar amount that you could
00:23:07.740collect and from who? So I want to step back from that because this lawsuit has never been
00:23:14.920principally about money for our client. It has been about accountability. It has been about
00:23:19.000shining a light on this underground smear machine that retaliated against her for raising
00:23:26.320claims of sexual harassment and retaliation and has harmed so many other people. And what you've
00:23:31.540seen since Blake stood up and brought this lawsuit is evidence coming out in our case that has led
00:23:37.680to information being used now in other litigations, the Nicholas case, the Amanda Ghost case.
00:23:44.760This underground smear machine has been exposed and people are now on notice that if they see, you know, if you see a Matt Bellany sucks dot net website pop up, you're going to maybe have an idea of who might have put that website up.
00:24:01.600You know, my reaction to that is is that what you're hearing is clearly disappointment on his part.
00:24:08.740And a disappointment that he didn't get the numbers that he hoped to get in this case.
00:24:17.020He didn't get the result that they hoped to get in this case.
00:24:21.080And, you know, clearly when you bring a case and you hope to prevail on that case, if you have the evidence to show that you're right, you go to trial.0.80
00:24:32.080and so it was really easy for us to to to end up in a trial all the all um blake lively needed to
00:24:42.760do was to say no i'm not settling let's go to a trial and the jury of our peers and let's see what
00:24:49.540we can get if it was so good why do you settle a case exchanging no money it doesn't make any
00:24:57.480sense it doesn't pass the smell test but again right that puts us back into the he said she said
00:25:04.400fight here fight there and i think the settlement agreement speaks for itself um you don't spend
00:25:12.84030 40 50 60 million dollars and walk away um without um you know without a dollar a dime
00:25:24.460Yeah. Without a dime, he paid nothing whatsoever. What about the attorney's fees? Do you have any
00:25:32.020idea, Brian, how much those are likely to clock in at? And is there a component of reasonableness
00:25:39.480that's going to be required in making that calculation?
00:25:42.980The attorney's fees are limited by the statute to, first of all, the attorney's fees that were
00:25:48.320spent on Blake Lively defending a cause of action, and that's the defamation cause of action. So
00:25:54.880that's one cause of action. It's also one defendant, which was Blake Lively. So it's not,
00:26:04.080you're not talking about something that would be, you know, involving a number of defendants or a
00:26:09.620number of causes of action. Also, we have to recall that that's during a time period that
00:26:15.200what was filed was a motion to dismiss. There wasn't any discovery. I mean, I believe there
00:26:20.560were somewhere in the neighborhood of 30, 40, maybe more depositions in the case. There were
00:26:26.040no depositions taken at that time. So there wasn't a significant amount of work that was done at that
00:26:34.160period of time. So we believe that those should be a pretty reasonable, relatively nominal amount
00:26:42.540given what was actually happening during that period of time.
00:26:48.600So we're not necessarily concerned about that.
00:26:56.300Justin has always supported women, will always continue to do so.
00:27:03.120And part of the reason that he agreed to have that 47.1 heard and not dismissed it
00:27:10.000is because he wanted the right result.
00:27:12.180whatever that right result was, to respect that statute, to respect, to agree to not have appellate
00:27:20.000rights, to respect that statute, to respect Judge Lyman's opinion of that statute. But he wanted
00:27:25.960finality. He wanted this to be done and over with. And look, you've heard from the person who the
00:27:35.320statute was written by, and frankly, on behalf of, and you heard what her feeling was about this.
00:27:43.820And she had very strong feelings about what the purpose of the statute was, and who the statute
00:27:49.860was supposed to protect, and why. And without re-litigating or re-hashing that point of view,
00:27:57.900I think this is a very different case when you look at the power dynamic, and you look at the
00:28:05.200the actual funds, access to power, access to people, and careers of who we're dealing with
00:28:17.240here. It doesn't feel like the typical case where you have someone who's made an allegation
00:28:23.600of sexual harassment or sexual assault, and you all of a sudden have somebody overwhelming
00:28:32.520somebody with um a lawsuit that um that that uh tends to um scare them and force them into giving
00:28:43.640them the inability to protect themselves it's not a typical case it's not what was meant for
00:28:49.600victoria burke who wrote this um statute said that herself right right here on the show um0.71
00:28:57.600is this something that would be covered by insurance the attorney's fees brian
00:29:01.860um i i i don't know the answer to that question whether it would be covered by insurance or not
00:29:07.720um you know likely you know they're they're i mean we went through during this case we went
00:29:14.740through a fire right a terrible fire in pacific palisades you were on the air here while your
00:29:20.720home was by was burning that was awful yeah i i was and i feel terrible for the other people and
00:29:27.240And, you know, in the areas that they were going through the same thing and the families that suffered, I really think, you know, a lot of people suffered.
00:29:37.900But, you know, we're still going through it with insurance companies now.
00:29:42.860So whether something's covered by insurance is an awfully interesting question, not just in the world of this type of case, but also in the world of, you know, of people who suffer, you know, their their homes and losing their homes and smoke damage.
00:29:57.440Yeah, it's one thing to have insurance. It's another to actually receive the payments that are supposed to be your benefit.
00:30:05.220How how how did Justin react, Brian, when he found out she wanted to settle this thing as opposed to go to trial?
00:30:13.580I think that Justin's always wanted to be able to be heard and and he's always wanted to be able to speak and and to be able to share what he experienced, what what you know, what he felt, what his family went through.
00:35:41.680Last question. There are over 1,400 entries on the docket in this case. Some of the filings are over 100 pages long. Brian, is this thing finally over?
00:35:53.480um i think uh i think it's finally over i'm hoping it's finally over with respect to
00:36:02.220allowing blake to move on allowing justin and the other parties to move on there's still some
00:36:09.320collateral matters um involved in this that that have to be resolved but but the crux of the case
00:36:16.220and the crux of the issues, I think people are going to be able to move on. And hopefully people
00:36:24.240will wish the best for each other and come to that place that says, you know what, enough is enough.
00:36:30.280We can agree to disagree. I feel I'm right. You feel you're right. And everyone through
00:36:38.780transparency and authenticity has been able to make their own decisions. And from the beginning
00:36:44.700where we had nothing in our favor we had no one in our favor so today where i believe that the
00:36:52.300great great majority of people see who justin baldoni is um it's really changed significantly
00:37:00.100and i'm really happy for him and see who blake lively is too brian thank you thanks so much all
00:37:08.260the best to you and to justin too and the rest of the defendants uh who were well represented and
00:37:12.860this is a great result for them. Let's hope the judge keep these attorney's fees relatively low
00:37:17.560and does not engage in any nonsense about trouble, damages, and punitives. So again,
00:37:22.540go to megankelly.com right now. If you would like to read exclusively the settlement agreement
00:37:28.080and general release between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, we've gotten our hands on it.
00:37:33.520All the exhibits are here too. You can see for yourself exactly what they agreed with,
00:37:38.640how they came up with the joint statement that they would release, and the signatures of the
00:37:44.900parties on the back of it. Not one red cent was exchanged between them after all of her nonsense,
00:37:52.740about $400 million. All right, up next, Glenn Greenwald is here for the rest of the show.
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00:45:47.400Because Trump is and he's he deserves a kind word.0.99
00:45:50.640And what basically what is this bullshit is his point of view?0.99
00:45:54.140Like, I'm happy it's ending. That's my take on this. I wish it had never started. I don't know0.99
00:45:59.840that this is better than where we were when we were actually negotiating with Iran before we
00:46:03.520started this war. But whatever. Let's get it. Get it done is my current feeling. Now back to you.
00:46:11.500Yeah, there's so much there, which is why it kind of shocks me both in general. But right now to say
00:46:17.500that I do think the one point Mark Levin made that is valid is that since the deal has been
00:46:24.100signed and it's not the final deal, it's a memorandum of understanding to stop the war for
00:46:28.10060 days in order to get a final deal. But everyone understands that if you stop a war of this
00:46:32.700magnitude for 60 days, you're stopping the war. You wouldn't do it otherwise. If the deal is
00:46:37.520already signed, as J.D. Vance and Donald Trump both have confirmed that it is, we ought to see
00:46:41.820the terms of the deal. The reality is that we know essentially what's in the deal,
00:46:47.060not only because the Iranians have disclosed it and not only because members of Congress and
00:46:51.420certain reporters have seen it, but also because of what Iran was saying about this deal were just
00:46:55.940fabricated or completely false. You would, of course, expect the Trump White House to be saying
00:47:00.700that it's false. And they're not doing that. In fact, as you said, J.D. Vance is confirming it.
00:47:05.160So what we do have is the outline, basically, of a deal. And we can talk about the deal. And we
00:47:10.380absolutely should. I think what we are going to see end up happening. And it's extremely ironic,
00:47:15.700given that it was kind of a central promise of the Trump 2016 campaign in the Trump first term
00:47:21.180to claim that the JCPOA was the worst deal ever negotiated, that we had to immediately withdraw
00:47:26.600from it because it was such a threat to American national security. That was the Israeli view.
00:47:31.340But from the American perspective, that deal, I'm not saying it was perfect,0.62
00:47:35.260but it certainly worked to keep Iran from doing things like enriching past 3.67 percent.
00:47:40.760They only started enriching at 60 percent after Trump withdrew from the deal.
00:47:44.340And what we're going to have is a deal that's similar to that, though probably without as many of the intrusive safeguards that that original deal had, on top of which Iran has been unbelievably emboldened and strengthened by the fact that they stood down the world's most powerful military and none of the stated goals that the United States government insisted it was intending to fulfill at the start of the war.
00:48:06.060not all of them, but none of them has really been fulfilled. Iran's government is obviously
00:48:11.660still very much in place. Their ballistic missile system has been somewhat degraded,
00:48:15.680but they could easily replace it. Their drone capacity is very high. They still have that
00:48:19.920enriched uranium buried under the soil. They still have the right to enrich. They're still
00:48:24.780able to fund what are called proxies in the region. I mean, none of the stated goals that
00:48:28.720the Israelis and the Americans at the start of the war said the war was about have been fulfilled.
00:48:33.200And on top of that, not only are those aims unfulfilled, but Iran will be much better off by now being reintegrated back into the world economy, able to sell their oil on the global market above and away from sanctions, have their funds that we froze unfrozen so that they have availability to them.
00:48:51.780I don't think the war should have ever started. But the Israelis understand and all of them are saying with a lot of rage and resentment that this was basically, if you don't want to say Iran won the war, certainly they didn't lose the war and they're coming out as strong, if not stronger than when the war began, which is quite a remarkable observation, given that the United States is the most powerful military in the world.
00:49:14.520Yeah, not to mention that they've realized they have this other nuclear bomb, which is the Strait of Hormuz and their ability to control it, which is like brand new was not the case beforehand.
00:49:24.660But, you know, my own feeling and watching this whole thing is clearly President Trump wanted that straight back open.
00:49:31.200He wanted oil to continue to flow or to resume its flow through the straight.
00:49:35.420And I think that's important and a good idea.
00:49:38.760But my first takeaway after that was we better make damn sure somehow that there are ways around the Strait of Hormuz.1.00
00:49:45.980Like immediately, that should be our number one job right now is to open up the oil flow, not using the strait so that we remove this important tool from the Iranians deck of cards.0.98
00:49:58.640Right. Because otherwise they're going to hold it over our heads forever and we're just going to have to keep going back over there.1.00
00:50:04.000In fact, Trump reportedly said something to The New York Times along the lines of, we'll go over there if we have to and we'll like be the policeman, we'll be the guardian.
00:50:14.620Here's how The Times reported it, that Trump insisted if Iran failed to reach a final nuclear accord with us, a process his aides say they expect will begin this Friday in Switzerland,
00:50:25.480that Trump would restart military attacks on Tehran, quote, or make the US the guardian of
00:50:32.160the Middle East in return for 20% of the region's revenues. Good God. No, no, thanks. No American
00:50:40.800voted for that. We don't want to be the guardian of the Middle East at all. You know, but Megan,0.97
00:50:45.600this is to me, the kind of overarching mystery and bizarre aspect of what happened here is that
00:50:53.760it's not like nobody had looked at a map before this war began and figured out for the first time
00:50:59.200that the Strait of Hormuz is this critical passageway for the world economy, not just for
00:51:04.680oil, but for natural gas and a whole bunch of other petrochemicals on which the world economy
00:51:09.380depends. And there's basically unless you want to move Iran, like actually physically move it0.91
00:51:13.940from one place to another, which we don't have the ability to do is we one of the reasons why0.69
00:51:20.320presidents never went to war with Iran is because of the immense leverage that they had. And by the0.68
00:51:24.700way, the leverage is not just being able to shut the Strait of Hormuz as they've done for the last
00:51:30.260several months. They can also destroy with great ease and always will be able to the entire energy
00:51:36.340infrastructure of our Persian Gulf allies, meaning the Arab dictatorships to Saudi Arabia and the0.91
00:51:41.760Emirates. And they prove that as well. And so it's not just the ability to choke off the Strait of
00:51:46.260moves, it's also the ability, and they only exercised a small portion of this power,
00:51:51.000to be able to just, these little countries that we call the Persian Gulf allies are really not
00:51:58.440even countries. They're tiny little gas stations. They're filled with very few people. We have to
00:52:03.500protect them. And Iran is a real country, like a big country, three times the size of Iraq.
00:52:09.780And they are able very easily to destroy that energy infrastructure in a way that will cause0.99
00:52:14.720economic collapse. And the thing is, Megan, this is what I think we always have to come back to is
00:52:19.840Donald Trump knew all this. He said it all before. He's talked about it all before. He's talked about
00:52:26.080the reasons why these kinds of regime change wars are so destructive. When was the last one that
00:52:30.880ever ended well from the perspective of the American people? You barely can think of one.
00:52:35.700Maybe you can go back to the last century and find one. But recently, these wars have been
00:52:40.260nothing but disastrous. Trump built his whole political identity on this. The lots of people
00:52:45.060were telling Trump this, that this is what was going to happen if he entered this war with
00:52:49.080Netanyahu. He knew that, and yet he did it anyway. And I think he got into the middle of it.
00:52:55.060And now what you're seeing is a kind of speech from an American president about Israel and
00:52:59.720Netanyahu that we haven't quite heard before. And I think the only reason is because Trump
00:53:04.440really ended up with no alternative. He had to get out of this war for the economy of the United
00:53:09.240States, for the world economy, and his political interest is the midterms approach.
00:53:14.260Yes, because what Trump's now saying was in our AM update this morning, but he's basically like,
00:53:20.380Israel, I don't know what Netanyahu's effing doing, and apparently said to him,
00:53:23.880you don't know what you're effing doing, and was very frank with him, and very angry that
00:53:28.680he continues to engage in a bombing campaign against Hezbollah in Lebanon. He claims that
00:53:36.920they struck first. Trump's response is what they hit you with was an absolute nothing. No one got
00:53:41.940hurt. You're using that as a fig leaf in order to launch your much larger and more devastating
00:53:48.000attacks, which will lead to us never being able to end this. He's finally lost his patience with
00:53:55.840Netanyahu. I've got to I've lost my time in the first hour of the show. Here we go to break. We
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00:55:09.420glenn greenwald host of system update on substack is my guest today my guest tomorrow
00:55:19.820will be jd vance the vice president of the united states and what a day to get him on the heels of
00:55:27.460this Iran deal. He's got a new book he's promoting all about his faith, which I'm very much looking
00:55:32.900forward to discussing with him. So that'll be a fun show. And we also have, he's the second hour
00:55:37.000tomorrow. Wait until you hear who is the first hour. Whoa, this is going to be an interesting
00:55:42.060show. Don't forget to download tomorrow's. Glenn, welcome back. There's a lot more to get to.
00:55:48.000We can go back to the Iran deal as well, but I wanted to move forward and talk a bit about what
00:55:53.340happened at the White House yesterday, and then what happened in New York over the weekend.
00:55:57.080They're sports stories, but they made their way into my lane of news stories, and therefore
00:57:28.040On top of the storm risk, brutal D.C. humidity is driving a triple-digit heat index
00:57:33.680alongside massive swarms of mosquitoes and gnats that fighters will have to battle inside the cage.
00:57:41.500While the venue's massive 92-foot overhang will keep the octagon dry,
00:57:45.380a single lightning strike within eight miles will trigger an automatic 30-minute freeze on the
00:57:50.520entire event what have you ever heard a forecast about the mosquitoes and the gnats i have to say
00:58:01.540i do think there's an agenda going on at the weather channel yeah i mean the picture they
00:58:07.040painted is scarier than anything you can find in the old testament when god gets like exceptionally
00:58:12.220angry and destroys entire cities and honestly when i first read it i almost thought it must
00:58:18.020be satirical like there was kind of a level of irony that they knew that they were doing because
00:58:22.140it's it you know it starts off already kind of dramatic in a way that that surprises you and
00:58:27.720then the more it goes the more it just gets yeah i mean biblical is really the only term i can think
00:58:32.340of but like almost threatening and it's and it's not even a generalized warning for washington
00:58:38.880residents it's a specific weather threat like a meteorological omen for this event that a lot of
00:58:45.700people for whatever reasons have have a problem with i'm still hoping there was some winking and
00:58:50.400nodding of of satire and what they were doing but we've seen so many instances where supposedly just
00:58:56.700like very neutral institutions become outrageously political in the most inappropriate ways that it
00:59:03.300really leaves you wondering yes the um the rapid response account uh which writes for the
00:59:10.120administration responded this event is about celebrating america's unmatched greatness after1.00
00:59:15.340250 years which apparently doesn't sit well with the friendless loser who wrote this bullshit0.98
00:59:20.320clickbait headline rain or shine we're celebrating our great country no matter what god bless america0.98
00:59:26.660and they were right because while there was like a half an hour rain delay the fights did go off
00:59:33.080A great time was held by all. And I do have a lot of friends who love UFC and like their feedback on this event was so positive. They loved the entire weekend. They had the military flyovers. They had Zach Brown, who refused to not sing, even though he came under all sorts of the usual criticism.
00:59:54.560How dare you? How dare you? You know, at the President Trump event, he was like, stop it.
00:59:58.800This is about America. I'm doing it. Did not fold the anthem. Like all of it was very patriotic.
01:00:05.860And yet if you've got the TDS, Glenn, you're not allowed to enjoy this. You got to shit on it1.00
01:00:12.000however you can. The mosquitoes and the swarms of gnats and the terrible Zach Brown who flouted1.00
01:00:18.860his duty as an American. Here was the walkout. Trump and Dana White walking from the Oval
01:00:25.000under like, well, the the covered part of the White House and then out into the so-called
01:00:30.720octagon. That's where they have the fights. It was, you know, no, no moment of theater, theater
01:00:37.440or, you know, presentation dramatics was spared, which is perfectly on brand for both men,
01:00:43.260actually. Yeah. You know, I actually think that these are the sorts of things where liberals have
01:00:49.200done the greatest favor to Trump by acting completely hysterical and just seemingly
01:00:55.640being very petulant and resentful and bitter and angry over what at the end of the day are really
01:01:02.420just kind of inconsequential cultural celebrations. I mean, inconsequential from the sense that
01:01:09.040there's no political harm to them or anything else like that and the ability to get liberals
01:01:13.860worked up over things that in context let's remember we're still involved in this major
01:01:19.540very dangerous war there's all kinds of economic harm and damages that americans are feeling to
01:01:24.220get liberals focused on this instead and have them whine and complain about a kind of cultural
01:01:30.160spectacle that isn't for everybody i'm not the target audience for it i didn't watch it but i
01:01:35.180I know that huge numbers of Americans do and have every right to be as included in White House celebrations and cultural celebrations is whatever the Obama administration like to do in order to show how elevated and and and, you know, kind of uplifting Obama's intellect was.
01:01:52.800this is all part of kind of like what makes america great is the cultural diversity of it
01:01:56.620and it's he's so good trump is and and their team at provoking liberals into drawing attention away
01:02:03.440from what benefits them politically and instead whining and complaining about this sort of stuff
01:02:07.560that they have just become their own worst enemies why would you begrudge a celebration of this kind
01:02:13.860that obviously tens of millions of americans take a kind of pride in and feel like they're
01:02:18.340culturally represented in a way that these kind of people haven't always felt and in a way it's
01:02:23.260kind of one of the promises of the trump administration was to start including in our
01:02:27.000dc politics in our national life a kind of part of our country that's very important that has
01:02:32.660represents a lot of people but that has kind of been scorned upon when it's not excluded and they0.97
01:02:38.260always fall right into the trap of sounding like douchebags and elitist assholes by saying this is0.97
01:02:45.180a degradation of the white house when it's things that tens of millions of americans0.99
01:02:49.480see as their culture and that they love and find entertainment in they're still doing it this
01:02:55.200morning i made the mistake of putting on msnbc for a little while on sirius xm you can listen
01:03:00.420to it and i was like that word kept coming up over and over even on cnn i heard it too like
01:03:05.740they they think this was this was a degradation that this was somehow a defilement of the white
01:03:11.660House grounds, the vaunted White House grounds. It's like Joe Biden had a tranny out there0.93
01:03:17.920showing his fake naked boobs all over the White House. And yes, they were forced to condemn it1.00
01:03:25.700after it happened because there was a national outcry after like, how dare you do that? But I
01:03:30.720mean, please, would you just stop, stop, spare me on, you know, your standards of taste? Because
01:03:37.060there are none. We saw what your standards of taste were to say nothing. Yeah. To say nothing
01:03:42.880of what American presidents have been doing in that White House forever, going back to JFK and0.97
01:03:47.300the hordes of women that he had in Bill Clinton's blowjobs in the Oval Office. We're now going to0.97
01:03:52.780pretend that unless it's like highfalutin enough culture, somehow it degrades the sanctity of the
01:03:58.340White House that has seen all sorts of things ever since it was constructed because human
01:04:03.460beings occupy it it's it's just the kind of artificial controversy that liberals just can't
01:04:09.600help and i think the reason why they love it is because they do get to feel kind of like elevated
01:04:14.600and superior it allows them to look down upon the culture of the people with whom they disagree with
01:04:20.040politically yet it's just too tempting of a psychological benefit for them to resist
01:04:23.960watch this this is this is from 2024 or 2023 24 look at this okay this is trans day of visibility
01:04:32.540at the White House. Joe Biden's right there. Look, there's the naked boobs. That's a man.
01:04:39.160This is absurd that anybody who supported this would have the nerve to talk about the degradation
01:04:46.760of the White House grounds, the defilement. Please spare me your lectures. That was disgusting.
01:04:54.140We've never really recovered from it, let's be honest. And this is like a restoration of
01:04:59.260masculinity and what it actually is. So I applaud that as well. Like, yeah, let's get back to
01:05:05.800masculinity. While I'm on the subject of masculinity and the trans people, I've got to spend one moment1.00
01:05:12.520on Elliot Page, who makes me so uncomfortable. Elliot Page was a cute female and still is a1.00
01:05:20.520female. The name has changed. She was Ellen Page. And now she goes by Elliot and wants us to believe
01:05:26.580she's a man, which she's not, but it's a very poor imitation. She starred in Juno and here she is.
01:05:32.440Okay, fine. She's going to pretend she's a man now. Not only is she pretending she's a man,0.51
01:05:36.240she had a little lecture on how she believes she's feeling a healthy masculinity, unlike
01:05:44.880the toxic masculinity, obviously, of all the people who support Donald Trump or just vote
01:05:51.720Republican. Take a listen to this at 34. Healthy masculinity to me is, or even just something I've
01:05:58.160felt as like transitioning is like leaning away from whenever there is some sort of impulse or
01:06:07.060expectation you've put on yourself to like shut down or conform in a way that usually feels like
01:06:14.060this, like I am closing off. I remember kind of being like, oh, Elliot, maybe you should,
01:06:19.460you know talk with your hands a little less or uh you know maybe in pictures you're because
01:06:24.540ever since transitioning now i'm like johnny i'm smiling i am smiling in those photos whereas i
01:06:31.220used to be so i could barely look at a photo of myself i was always like you know and now
01:06:35.420and i'll be taking to say a dude's like hey are you are you victor from umbrella academy you know
01:06:40.540and we're doing a photo together he's very i'm right yeah and like having that moment where i'm
01:06:46.000like, oh, should I also not? Like, should I also be closed off? It's just like, what the fuck,
01:06:51.440Elliot? What are you, what are you talking about? Like, oh, honey, you're the part of the problem.1.00
01:06:57.100Okay. So it's now toxically male to not gesticulate, talk with your hands a lot,
01:07:07.060to not overshare, to be a dignified, stoic man.0.77
01:13:17.960And like, I just want like when like there was a time,
01:13:22.000maybe like a decade ago and I was getting invited, you know,
01:13:23.840when Citizen Four came out, the film that that was about my work was noted
01:13:26.680and won an Oscar when I was kind of like integrated into Hollywood stuff.
01:13:29.760I'm sure the way you were when you had your film out and other times as well.
01:13:33.000And there was always this perception that like Hollywood politics is super
01:13:36.140radical left it really isn't it's like very like establishment democrat and you know jane fonda
01:13:44.120too used to have pretty radical politics in the 60s like marching against the war obviously going
01:13:47.780very controversially to to north vietnam and all these people i guess like as they just evolved
01:13:53.240they just turn into really ordinary boring democrats they're like chuck schumer and nancy
01:13:58.420pelosi and it's a very superficial politics and i'll just give you a quick example like okay
01:14:02.840There's Jane Fonda giving a speech about a speech in defense of free speech.
01:14:06.240I do think free speech is under attack right now.
01:14:08.680I always think free speech is under attack as somebody who's made that a primary cause of my life.
01:14:14.040Free speech was under attack at least as much, if not way more so, during the Biden administration when they had a systematic campaign to bully and threaten and pressure and coerce big tech into censoring and banning dissidents from their policies, including on COVID in Ukraine, from the entire Internet.
01:14:30.380That what court said was one of the most full frontal assaults on free speech in decades.
01:14:34.540Do you think Bette Midler and Jane Fonda and any of them are raising their voices against it?
01:14:39.100Of course not, because they've just become very like boring state partisans.
01:14:44.180They don't have a fascism to them means Donald Trump.
01:14:47.580And you get rid of fascism by electing Kamala Harris.
01:14:50.140It's nothing more interesting or or complex than that.0.97
01:14:55.120By the way, Kamala Harris, too, launched her campaign.0.97
01:14:57.700And one of her first stops was on RuPaul's Drag Race show where the week before they had some tranny walking down the runway with fake boobs, like in a in a bag and a clear cellophane bag dripping with blood.0.99
01:15:10.480The the display was his chest, like missing breasts with fake blood dripping down.1.00
01:15:17.240That's the classiness of the Biden administration that they wanted to return us to to get us away from the disgusting debauchery of the Trump administration.0.99
01:16:45.040that was her big contribution. How'd that work out? This is not going to work out any better.
01:16:49.960But why? Why must it? Why? Why can't? Why didn't she get the same memo that Jennifer Lawrence got
01:16:54.620when who came out and said, I'm kind of done doing that. I just want people to watch my art
01:16:59.720and I'll express myself through my art and they can take it or leave it.
01:17:03.900Well, this is the thing, like, historically, if you look at Western artists and the idea of art
01:17:10.580in western culture it always has been political but not in this like direct you know go and vote
01:17:17.580for this candidate or i'm gonna represent these very you know banal political ideas that everybody
01:17:23.180else i i speak to and that that is near me also represents because i want to be part of the crowd
01:17:27.780part of the idea of art is to question taboos to test new ideas to kind of poke at orthodoxy that
01:17:33.960there is a politicized aspect to art not always but but often even you know going back to renaissance
01:17:38.960art. I mean, a lot of that had political themes to it. And these people have convinced themselves
01:17:43.920because they refer to themselves as artists, even though they're just like good looking studio tools
01:17:47.900that they too play a similar role in society, even though they have nothing of actual value
01:17:53.340or interest to offer. And that's why I say what offends me are not people who are in like the
01:17:58.480creative world wanting to express ideas that affect the world. Like I said, I think that's
01:18:02.920a normal part of art. What offends me about it is they're so empty and vapid about it. It's pure
01:18:08.320just hollywood group think they all repeat what each other says there's no bravery to it there's
01:18:14.580no courage to it there's no impact and i think that's the reason why and one of the only thing
01:18:18.480good things that have come out of all of this is they all do have to realize that they have
01:18:22.540basically become insecure inconsequential because they did everything possible remember going back
01:18:26.760to that 2016 mega cringe fight video that they did with all those celebrities singing that fight
01:18:33.060song about Hillary Clinton they've just gotten destroyed and humiliated because no one pays
01:18:38.560attention to them I remember people really thinking Taylor Swift's announcement endorsement
01:18:43.180or that brat woman's endorsement of Kamala was going to swing the election it didn't swing a
01:18:47.720single vote because nobody cares not because people don't care about what artists think but
01:18:51.720because these people are an artist they're just banalities they're just people craving public
01:18:56.660attention and applause, and that will never have any power. Truly, who cares what Julia Roberts0.96
01:19:04.580thinks about politics? Now, if Julia Roberts is going to stand up in front of some large group1.00
01:19:08.960in New York and tell us what it was like to act across from Richard Gere and Pretty Woman,0.71
01:19:13.440I'm interested. Go on. What was that like? You were great in that. Great. Let's do that.
01:19:20.340But no one wants to hear me talk about what it's like to be an actress and how one prepares for
01:19:25.840one's roles. And no one wants to hear her talk about politics or the news at all. We saw her.
01:19:33.580She went on with Oprah during that fake tele town hall, whatever she did that she charged the
01:19:39.160campaign a million dollars for in your life as a journalist. I guarantee Glenn Greenwald has never
01:19:45.540charged the interview subject for the set Glenn had to set up in order to go do the interview.
01:19:52.800that's not the way it works only a grifter would do such a thing um but at that farcical event
01:19:59.520julia roberts had thoughts there too remember this watch i want people to say oh you're american
01:20:07.260and not oh how's it going over there you know yes that so i want to get back to that space
01:20:16.140exactly oh go ahead glenn but but but just that alone do you see what she's saying there she's
01:20:21.700When I go to Paris and I'm invited to these, you know, elite royal dinners in Scandinavia, I want the people next to me to feel like being an American is a good thing instead of looking down their nose at me because Donald Trump is the president.
01:20:39.960I want them to see someone more European.
01:20:42.260Like, is this even in the same universe as what most Americans think?
01:20:47.540And this is what gets me about, you know, Julia Roberts has been this huge Hollywood star making gigantic sums of money for decades.0.50
01:20:55.180Obviously, that distorts her perception that removes her from ordinary life.
01:20:59.120These people have no understanding, like no humility at all that the way they speak, the concerns that they have are so radically different from the people on whose behalf they think they're speaking or who they're influencing.
01:21:10.880that it's like this incredible mismatch even just listening to her it sounds she doesn't speak like
01:21:15.940anybody that you typically speak to and i think this is the breach that they're incapable of
01:21:21.500recognizing it's really bizarre to watch i mean that is what she's saying when i go to when i go
01:21:26.560to brussels you know i used to be applauded when obama was president because people loved america
01:21:32.060and now in europe they think that we're gross and i want to get back to you know having british and
01:21:36.920European royalty look at us again in a positive light as though that's even anywhere near the list
01:21:43.860of concerns of ordinary voters. Yes, like we're real working class voters who can't pay their
01:21:50.540mortgage or their grocery bills. And she thought that they'd be listening to her on how she really
01:21:55.620wants people to admire her as an American and to be universally beloved. And she doesn't like this
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01:28:19.460But I didn't realize that these celebrities are getting it.
01:28:23.500Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner, gifts it to them.
01:28:27.200And like Anna Wintour over at the Met Gala,
01:28:30.120he sprinkles his little fairy dust on the ones he thinks i guess i don't know people want to see
01:28:36.420there so that's bad enough glenn that's bad enough right because god forbid they have like a contest
01:28:43.880where they give it to like the new yorker who's most down and out had the roughest year lost his
01:28:51.080job in this difficult economy or in mom donnie's hideous new york god forbid they give it to like
01:28:58.360the make-a-wish kid. No, we got to look at Taylor Swift there, fake, excited over the
01:29:03.900miracle. With her nitwit friend, she looked like an idiot. Okay. Then enter Hank Azaria,1.00
01:29:11.980who starts off strong. I'm with him. He starts ripping on Taylor. He's like, I've had it with
01:29:16.540this woman. I had to watch her at all the football games. And now she's got to be at
01:29:20.780the basketball games too. Like I'm fucking sick of her. Yes, Hank, you speak for us all.1.00
01:29:25.520But then started bitching about his free seats because they were in a suite that's high up at Madison Square Garden and not down at the camera level there.
01:29:41.280There he is in a seat. It's high up. I agree. But you're there. You're there.
01:29:45.340People around you outside of your suite, civilians had to pay a minimum of six to seven grand for the worst nosebleed in the house.
01:29:55.020and his came for free and he's still bitching listen here to what he said about those seats
01:30:01.320to the dan libertard show i tell you the one that bothered me was taylor swift why come on0.98
01:30:07.780she just got here she's the hugest thing in the world but we had to sit with her all through the
01:30:12.640nfl and now she's at the garden come on wow she gets four seats her three friends it's total
01:30:18.540bandwagon like hank has been there since the 70s he's the voice actor for a generation like this is
01:30:26.040the man continues to be someone who stars in movies for the better part of 35 40 years not
01:30:32.620that i question why she'd get the seat i'm just tired of the whole taylor she did have three seats
01:30:38.240i got the guest list in front of me right now ridiculous she had three seats okay but he went
01:30:43.460on to say, uh, okay. You don't know from the garden if you're going to get in until the day
01:30:51.300of the game. If you're Ben Stiller or Tracy Morgan, you know, I think Spike Lee actually
01:30:55.460pays for his tickets, he says, but they don't let you know until day of because there's such
01:31:00.300high demand. After not making the cut for complimentary tickets to game three,
01:31:05.800the, um, the actor said he was able to get in free to game four. That was the miracle at MSG
01:31:12.960game. However, Hank Azaria thought it was horrible, that's in quotes, that his seats
01:31:19.700were in the arena's Cisco Suites, located within the upper bowl of the horror. I know I'm not
01:31:27.340courtside, he said, but I think MSG has got me good seats. But we're way up in what they call
01:31:33.520the Cisco Suites, which are like the ceiling, he recalled, noting that other stars like Questlove,
01:31:39.220rain wilson edward burns jeremy strong aaron judge and christy turlington were also in the
01:31:44.640same area like there's so many folks who want in that they've stuck us all up in the rafters
01:31:52.460i'm sorry but this too is so out of touch glenn yeah i mean i get why sports leagues want to have
01:32:02.380celebrities at their events because it gives it for some people like a kind of cachet but it only
01:32:09.840really works if the people are actually interested you know like jack nicholson famously was like
01:32:14.120obsessed with the la lakers so it made sense for the la lakers to want him always at the game
01:32:18.300huge star you know like on the on at court side uh i guess like some new york like spike lee always
01:32:25.400at the new york knicks games when they're winning they're losing whatever like a real fan i like
01:32:29.420the sport i know and watch most is tennis and there's like huge stars like from the nba and
01:32:33.780movie stars who love tennis travel the world like really watching the matches i get why they're
01:32:38.280promoted but like if you're gonna be that and especially if you're gonna get these free tickets
01:32:44.460for an event you know where new yorkers and there's you know obviously millions of them
01:32:50.460who have lived and died with the with the new york knicks forever i lived in new york 15 years
01:32:54.400when they're like the era of Patrick Ewing and like really good teams, John Starks, like never
01:32:59.360won the championship. These people have been waiting for these for forever. There, a lot of
01:33:04.400them are priced out. And then to have these celebrities who don't even seem like the real
01:33:08.040fans get in and get in free and get all these perks, like those suites have tons of perks.
01:33:13.300It's not just like sitting in any old seat high up. It's, you know, like a suite, then go on and
01:33:18.660complain that their seats weren't as good as they, as they, this is why there's so much resentment
01:33:23.780toward the celebrity class we talked about this the last time on zone like in order to have this
01:33:28.220like mystique of celebrity that actually is appealing there needs to be a mystique to it
01:33:32.840like you have to have something opaque about yourself you don't want to show yourself because
01:33:37.020when you show yourself you're showing who you are like an ordinary guy with all the warts of
01:33:41.820everybody else but getting all these undue privileges and that's what creates resentment
01:33:46.140and these people seem not to realize it they're so immersed in this in this detached culture that
01:33:51.800they don't understand any longer what they sound like to people it if i were their agent i would
01:33:56.840be like just just shut up always unless you have a script in front of you or some written prepared
01:34:00.800speech and otherwise just go do your movies go do your tv collect your huge paycheck and go on a0.98
01:34:06.560boat and just don't let people know anything else about you yes i i they what they should have done
01:34:12.860was say uh here's my seat daniel penny here you go or cop patrolling the beat you you want a good
01:34:20.240seat they'd kill to be able to sit in this or like a single mother gets to bring her kid you
01:34:25.760know who would never otherwise afford it yeah like that would actually be something and not
01:34:29.720even for pr like you i personally would feel better about it than you know just somebody who's
01:34:34.720every privilege just taking it because you can even though it doesn't give you like find somebody
01:34:40.140who would actually see the experience as this once in a lifetime you know opportunity and i
01:34:46.420guess they just don't think that way oh it's disgusting like what a missed opportunity by
01:34:52.520Hank Azaria to say like I was so thrilled to be there like all I was I'm so grateful to the garden
01:34:57.440for making sure I had a seat that was so generous of them like I saw my Knicks win it's like I have
01:35:03.560nothing but blessings I'm I'm very very grateful instead of like we were up in the nosebleeds with
01:35:09.040Christy Turlington oh my god you you started off strong and then you fell apart Hank Azaria and
01:35:14.280he's not the voice of a generation either it's like if you watch the simpsons you enjoyed his
01:35:18.540work otherwise most people don't even know who hank azari is i'm sorry and ben stiller i mean i
01:35:23.180give him credit for like at least admitting like he he's charles barkley um stepped in it right
01:35:29.700because it was like you're a real next fan you have season tickets yeah and he's like no actually
01:35:34.380that's not true they just gave these to me i really have no idea why but credit to him for
01:35:40.460admitting it and I have to do something that pains me, but I must do it. There were all these Knicks
01:35:46.760fans on the streets of New York watching on like jumbotrons that were up and they were packed in
01:35:52.620like sardines and it added a lot to watch their reaction when the Knicks won. It was, that's
01:35:56.820exactly what you wanted to see was their reaction and how happy they were. And in smushed in with
01:36:02.760the crowd, I did see Jon Stewart and I'm pretty sure this is where he was. Correct me if I'm
01:36:10.300wrong. I'm sure the audience will, but I saw him and he was standing out there outside with a
01:36:16.100baseball hat on with the everyman. And I have to say, I admired it. Like he didn't go inside the
01:36:24.960garden. Jon Stewart absolutely could have afforded a $6,000 ticket or more. You know, some of the
01:36:29.840other ones were tens of thousands and he chose to spend it that way. And I have to say, I like it
01:36:34.860when people do that. And he, he didn't look to go on. He wasn't Megan Markle, like making sure he
01:36:39.300got in front of the camera. Here I am with the everyman. He was just there watching the game
01:36:42.940and like cheering and somebody got him from the side. And I was like, you know what? Good on you,
01:36:46.680man. Yeah. And, you know, I'm sure you've had these experiences too in New York. And I definitely
01:36:52.920did too. Like when I lived there, I love New York. Of course, extremely frustrating people
01:36:56.400who don't live there look at it and say, why would anyone want to live there with all the
01:36:59.920obvious problems that it has? But there are certain kinds of experiences because of the
01:37:05.260diversity in new york and i don't mean diversity in like a dei way i mean like natural diversity of
01:37:09.760so many different kinds of people from so many walks of life who are almost forced into finding
01:37:14.880this common humanity and common ground and common cause where those divisions actually don't matter
01:37:19.600new york has a unique capability to bring people together from like the richest to the poorest to
01:37:24.660every kind of different religion and background in a way that really is inspiring and i think
01:37:29.860having this city that's so filled with every different kind of person unite around the
01:37:34.620sporting event you know there is something very encouraging about humanity's ability to do that
01:37:39.480and there aren't many cities in america that produce that like new york can and i think that's
01:37:43.000one of the reasons why this resonated so much yes totally um a word on jaylen brunson before we
01:37:50.620leave the knicks after game four he was in such demand because that was the miracle at msd it
01:37:57.880really was a miracle they were down 30 plus points and somehow they turned it you know it was like
01:38:02.440before you knew it, they were down only 15 points, which they were again in the final.
01:38:06.340It was like, oh my God, the stress for, you know, Knicks fans. And really, truly, they deserve to
01:38:11.980win it. Cause it's like the Spurs, if you can't win a game when you're 30 points up or in the
01:38:15.760finals, 15 points up and hold onto that lead in a game of that consequence, I mean, with all due
01:38:20.080respect, then you should expect to lose. So good for him. He was the hero of that game too.
01:38:25.320And he came out the night after game four. Um, and everybody wanted to hear his reaction.
01:39:58.640I've been on the receiving end of that.
01:40:00.080Will you do this thing? Will you make a phone call or will you send a note? And if you actually do, if you can spare the time to actually call and speak with the person live, it's so meaningful if they actually are your fan. And he did it. And it was one of the little boy's last moments, Glenn. It just restores your faith in humanity. Like athletes, so often there are bad stories about our famous people. And here's a great one. I love this guy.
01:40:25.280well yeah and it's what we were talking about before too with like how you have the opportunity
01:40:29.700if you have these kind of privileges to instead of just like gobbling them all up for yourself
01:40:35.280and getting as much attention you know you can do so many things that obviously are are beneficial
01:40:41.300to the people who you're helping but obviously but also are so beneficial to you like look at how
01:40:47.180the like look at like this is a guy at the height of like his his career right he's at the pinnacle
01:40:52.920of the success the star of this incredibly uh significant sporting event where all eyes are
01:40:59.020focused on him in the most admirable way and clearly the emotions he had that he felt compelled
01:41:03.800to share in like the most unrehearsed genuine from the heart way you could just tell like his
01:41:08.320soul was invested in it probably gave to him at least as much as if not more than whatever other
01:41:15.280benefits he's getting from having been the star of the series helped the knicks win the first
01:41:19.300championship at the center of the world media capital which is new york and so many people
01:41:24.420deprive themselves of that kind of profound human experience because the benefits aren't obvious
01:41:29.780it takes emotional investment and just to see somebody in that moment focused on that instead
01:41:35.420of themselves which you know again this is like an extremely important moment for him financially
01:41:41.220and reputationally and every other way for a sport to which he's devoted his life to be able
01:41:45.440to have the presence of mind to speak in that manner so powerfully and connected about someone
01:41:51.660who he did not really know that well until the week before, but was so affected by. Yeah. Like
01:41:56.400you said, it does kind of remind you that human beings are capable of great things.
01:42:01.420And that gave me the chills when you were talking about him and he was voted MVP of the finals. Of
01:42:07.580course he very clearly was. So definitely has a new fan in me, even though I don't totally know
01:42:14.140his name yet by heart, but I'm going to remember it. You'll get there. I'm definitely going to
01:42:17.880remember it. But unlike these other people, I'm not a poser. I will tell you the truth about where
01:42:21.500I stand when it comes to sports. I'm not going to lie. I think J-Lo is a poser. She posted this
01:42:26.880video, Glenn, and Steve Krakauer, our executive producer, cracks me up on our producer text
01:42:31.840sometimes. He just sent it out with the word relatable. Watch this.
01:42:44.140It's her in what's clearly a multi-million dollar home.