The Megyn Kelly Show - Meltdown Over Patriotic UFC at White House, with Glenn Greenwald, and Justin Baldoni's Attorney Bryan Freedman Gives Exclusive Details of Settlement ｜ Ep. 1339

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00:01:38.020 Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Happy Monday

00:01:41.480 on another very busy news day. Some incredible sports stories over the weekend. They even made

00:01:47.360 their way into my lane. So, you know, they were big from UFC fight night at the White House to

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00:01:59.280 well, it's been over 50 years, incredibly. But we begin today with an exclusive here on the MK

00:02:03.980 show. And that is some breaking news and an exclusive document to reveal in the Justin

00:02:10.400 Baldoni, Blake Lively saga. As we reported Friday, Judge Louis Lyman granting Blake Lively's

00:02:17.140 request for attorney's fees on the defamation claim that was filed by Justin Baldoni against

00:02:24.880 her. She sued him for sexual harassment. He counterclaimed for defamation. And she got that

00:02:32.020 counterclaim dismissed before virtually all of her claims were dismissed. And under this weird

00:02:38.320 California law that entitles her potentially to attorney's fees. All right. It sounded like a

00:02:45.540 like a victory, right? But remember that Baldoni and the judge said, yes, you can have the fees

00:02:51.320 to Blake Lively. But Baldoni's defamation claim was only active for less than five months. So

00:02:59.480 that's just a small part of the 18 months of high price litigation between the parties.

00:03:04.180 Justin Baldoni, on the other hand, got himself a major win on Friday when Judge Lyman denied

00:03:10.440 Blake Lively's request for punitive damages against him, damages meant to punish him

00:03:16.220 or for a tripling of damages that she also argued she was entitled to when it comes to her

00:03:22.980 actual sustained damages. So she had a couple of other categories of damages that she wanted

00:03:29.120 him to pay her outside of her attorney's fees. And this judge said it's a no.

00:03:34.260 Now, as we've been reporting, Blake Lively's request, all of those requests for attorney's fees and these other damages was rooted in this California Civil Code 47.1, which is a law passed to protect victims of sexual harassment from being deterred to go public with their stories thanks to a powerful defendant who sues them for defamation.

00:03:58.600 It's basically like you work for a man, you're going to claim sexual harassment by said man.

00:04:05.600 The law is trying to discourage said man from trying to bully you out of filing that litigation with a defamation case against you.

00:04:13.060 I mean, the whole thinking behind this provision, and we spoke with the woman who dreamed it up and architected it, was to protect less powerful women from more powerful men.

00:04:23.880 or you could reverse the genders depending on the situation, but the less powerful from the

00:04:27.680 more powerful who use defamation in an effort to silence and make the whole process impossible.

00:04:34.780 You tell me, who's more powerful, who's richer, who's better connected between Justin Baldoni,

00:04:41.560 whose name you probably never heard of unless you watched, was it Jane the Virgin and Blake

00:04:47.300 Lively married to Ryan Reynolds and at that time best friends with Taylor Swift. Okay,

00:04:52.360 so she misused this entire thing, but that's where we were, okay? This was never meant to

00:04:58.620 protect multimillionaire movie stars like Blake Lively, but she saw an opportunity. We heard

00:05:04.080 that from the architect of the law herself who came on this program and said, Blake's people

00:05:08.060 came to her, the architect, and said, she wants to be the face of it. She wants to partner with you

00:05:13.680 to take your law national, and she's going to show the world how she's an advocate for Me Too

00:05:19.080 victims nationwide. And this woman said, stay the hell away from me and my law. It's actually 1.00

00:05:24.880 working out OK for some plaintiff or some some women here in California. And I've gotten it 0.89

00:05:30.020 passed in a couple of other states. And I don't want your help. You'll only draw negative attention

00:05:34.520 to it. No one sees you as a Me Too victim. And she said, I didn't want her to met gala my law.

00:05:40.800 I totally got it. Now, Lively's 47.1 motion, the motion for all these fees and costs, was

00:05:49.520 the only part of the case that was not part of the settlement the two sides reached last month.

00:05:56.540 Okay, so this is the one piece she said, I'm not settling this. In other words,

00:06:01.340 Justin, I'll still be coming after you for attorney's fees. And it's safe to say that

00:06:05.220 Blake Lively thought she would prevail.

00:06:08.060 Here is her attorney, Michael Gottlieb,

00:06:11.000 the day after the settlement was announced,

00:06:14.420 appearing on Matt Bologna's podcast.

00:06:16.940 So let me tell you why our client is happy, ecstatic with this settlement.

00:06:22.560 The reason that our client is happy with this settlement

00:06:25.360 is because it gives her the power and the opportunity 0.59

00:06:29.520 to pursue what we believe is her most potent and powerful claim

00:06:33.920 in a way that is efficient, in a way that is final, in a way that the defendants have no

00:06:39.040 appeal rights over, and in a way that cuts off most of the noise that would be surrounding this

00:06:45.720 case and lets us get straight to the core issue of how the defendants retaliated against her,

00:06:51.560 specifically the retaliatory lawsuit that they filed that called her a liar, that branded her

00:06:56.940 a liar. It's not one of these statutes where there's discretion for awarding the damages once

00:07:01.360 conditions are met. And we believe the conditions have essentially already been met. And now they're

00:07:05.300 going to be held liable for compensatory damages, tripled, punitive damages, and attorney's fees

00:07:12.400 when we establish the elements of this 47.1. Well, that's not exactly what happened, is it?

00:07:20.680 They got their attorney's fees, but they didn't get the huge pot of money they thought they were

00:07:26.380 going to get when they got punitive damages meant to punish and her compensatory damages,

00:07:30.820 meaning the actual damages she could prove to a court she suffered as a result of his counterclaim, times three.

00:07:37.360 That's what trebled means.

00:07:38.700 The judge said it's a no.

00:07:40.940 And now it appears from the statements that her team has issued over the past couple of days

00:07:46.360 that she thinks she can still have another bite at the apple in getting those other damages that this judge just denied.

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00:09:38.380 Agency, LLC, a licensed insurance agency. Brian, welcome back. So she says it's not over for her.

00:09:47.040 She's still going after Justin. Her attorney's fees are not enough. She wants damages to punish

00:09:52.160 him. And I guess she thinks she's got some actual damages she can prove that will be

00:09:56.240 trebled or tripled if she can just resurrect this claim under 47.1, the statute of California law

00:10:03.980 that I just explained. Your reaction? You know, my reaction is that we don't believe that's

00:10:11.380 accurate at all. And part of the reason I think that there's confusion is because you hear all

00:10:20.460 these different things from all these different people. And really, you know, from day one,

00:10:26.460 it's been about the receipt. So I thought what would be really important is to release the

00:10:31.480 settlement agreement, which is not confidential, which is not subject to any kind of order,

00:10:40.000 which restricts the public from seeing it. And I think that will provide some clarity for people

00:10:46.320 to be able to take a look at the settlement agreement and see exactly what it says,

00:10:53.180 which is that Judge Lyman will have the right to rule and only the right to rule on this particular motion.

00:11:02.860 One of the reasons that Justin felt it important to also not resolve that motion as part of the settlement agreement

00:11:11.280 was to give Judge Lyman the right to do what he felt was appropriate under that.

00:11:18.900 If he felt it was appropriate to award damages, then he would have done so.

00:11:24.380 If he felt it was appropriate to award punitive damages, he would have done so.

00:11:30.380 If he felt it was appropriate to award treble damages, he would have done so.

00:11:35.480 He didn't do any of those things.

00:11:37.000 all of those things were not awarded. What was awarded was attorney's fees. And we respect

00:11:45.360 Judge Lyman's decision with that particular ruling. And so it's, you know, the settlement

00:11:55.000 agreement really provides that both sides didn't want any type of appeal from that. Both sides

00:12:01.760 wanted to respect 47.1, whether it's constitutional or not. And both sides wanted resolution.

00:12:11.740 And that was not something chosen by one side or the other. It's been enough time. People should

00:12:18.140 be able to move on. There should be a result here. It should be done, handled, and people should move

00:12:26.140 on with their lives. And Justin would certainly like that opportunity, along with the other

00:12:30.360 individual defendants. They felt like they were dismissed from the case as part of the summary

00:12:40.420 judgment ruling. They just would like to move on with their lives at this point. And if the judge

00:12:48.360 is going to award attorney's fees, which it looks like he will, that number will be determined.

00:12:54.720 We believe that that's, and the statute's pretty clear, that that's attorney's fees to defend

00:13:00.160 the defamation cause of action um only yes and and only of blake lively's not other um plaintiffs

00:13:10.500 not other you know defendants in those cases okay so so to be clear you are releasing the

00:13:18.380 settlement agreement between blake lively and justin baldoni you've released it to us and

00:13:24.680 people can go right now to megankelly.com to read it themselves. This is an exclusive for the show

00:13:30.400 for now, and you should check it out there right now. If you can, we've posted it as we came to

00:13:36.140 air. And what I see in this agreement, Brian, is that she, the both parties agreed that any and all

00:13:43.760 proceedings relating to her pending 47.1 motion will be heard before Judge Lyman. So she's not

00:13:51.440 going to be able to resurrect her claim here for punitive damages or triple damages in front of any

00:13:59.100 court or any judge besides Judge Lyman. Do you agree with that? Yes. And as a matter of fact,

00:14:05.200 and just like that, the other parties in the case won't be able to resurrect the ruling that she's

00:14:12.120 entitled to her attorney's face. It's a, you know, the parties wanted finality and, and there's no

00:14:19.500 forum in which she can then take this based on the settlement agreement and say, I want to redo

00:14:26.140 any of these provisions like punitive damages, like treble damages, like compensatory damages.

00:14:34.700 The only issue left is for Judge Lyman to rule on what's the amount of the attorney's fees under

00:14:42.000 47.1 pursuant to the limited cause of action of the defamation claim.

00:14:50.260 OK, so but let me ask you this. So she can't file this claim. She can't try to resurrect 1.00

00:14:54.240 the punitives and trouble damages claim elsewhere. If she's going to try to do that,

00:14:58.440 she would have to do it in front of Judge Lyman. But your point is she can't do it in front of

00:15:02.320 Judge Lyman either because he issued this ruling on Friday and it did seem to make a distinction

00:15:10.000 between attorney's fees on the one hand

00:15:12.520 and all these other damages she wants.

00:15:14.860 And he seemed, Brian, you tell me,

00:15:17.200 he seemed in his ruling on Friday to be saying,

00:15:19.700 you can't recover all those other damages you want

00:15:23.000 under the federal rule of procedure

00:15:25.460 that you've raised here.

00:15:27.680 Like the federal rule of civil procedure 54 0.97

00:15:29.860 only gives you a right to attorney's fees, madam.

00:15:32.200 But he seems to be saying,

00:15:33.640 if you want under this California statute

00:15:35.740 to recover all these other damages

00:15:37.640 you're talking to me about,

00:15:38.480 the triple of the compensatory, the punitive damages to punish. All that stuff requires a

00:15:44.280 jury trial, Blake. He seems to be saying Justin Baldoni would have all sorts of rights to make

00:15:51.420 sure any such exorbitant award would have been run through the proper legal process, which he

00:15:58.320 specifically references, like the Seventh Amendment and jury trials and like a full

00:16:05.320 hearing on all this, none of which she ever asked for, which she appears now to have waived and

00:16:11.920 settled the case finally. So you tell me whether I mean, honestly, whether there is a legitimate

00:16:16.820 avenue remaining for her to try to punish him more with these damages. I think what Judge

00:16:24.060 Lyman was ruling on was he was saying, look, there were other ways this could have been done

00:16:29.600 um that you could have you know first of all you could have gone to trial but another way this

00:16:35.740 could have been done is by filing some type of cross claim to try to recover these things which

00:16:42.180 would have afforded the you know justin baldoni and others to to you know the right to a jury

00:16:50.060 trial the right to put on a defense in the case pursuant to you know the constitution and and that

00:16:57.660 that was not chosen, that that was not the path that was chosen. And as a result of that,

00:17:03.560 there is no ability then to recover punitive damages, treble damages, or compensatory damages.

00:17:11.840 The only recovery that's allowable at this point is attorney's fees based on the defamation cost

00:17:19.940 of action, defamation claim. Yeah, that Justin filed against her that he dismissed months prior

00:17:26.940 to dismissing almost the entirety of her case as well, which is why she ultimately settled it,

00:17:32.020 because there was only a small little acorn left in her corner to hurl at Justin, and it was going

00:17:37.980 to be extremely painful to go to trial and have to get cross-examined on the truths that you guys

00:17:43.460 had on your side just to pursue that one acorn. Now, as I look at the settlement agreement,

00:17:48.540 and we've just gotten it, the one thing that stands out to me, in addition to her waiving

00:17:52.920 all claims against Justin and any appeals as well. There's no there's no dollar figure in here,

00:18:00.820 Brian. There's not a single penny. I mean, normally when you have a plaintiff like this

00:18:06.380 with a lawsuit that was supposed to be this massive with these big claims, he sexually

00:18:11.800 harassed me. Then he turned around. He retaliated against me. He tried to ruin my reputation.

00:18:17.680 All the stuff she's been saying a couple of weeks earlier, she was demanding 400 million

00:18:21.360 dollars in damages, not one red cent was paid by Justin or any of the defendants to settle this

00:18:29.900 $400 million she claimed she was entitled to. I think that's a fair reading of the agreement,

00:18:36.400 certainly. But the truth is, I'm not here and Justin's not here and neither of the other

00:18:46.060 parties in the case are here to start pounding our chests and saying how great this is and how

00:18:51.540 wrong they are and how right they are. What we're here to do is to move on, to allow people finality,

00:18:58.400 to allow them to have peace, to allow Justin to have time with his family, unmitigated time where

00:19:05.660 his mind is elsewhere, to allow him to continue moving on with his career, to allow all the other

00:19:12.920 individual defendants that were dismissed in the summary judgment motion to move on and live

00:19:20.380 their lives. And frankly, and honestly, the same for Ms. Lively, to allow her the dignity to move

00:19:27.640 on with her life and put this all behind everyone. And frankly, I don't know if people are getting

00:19:34.700 tired of it. I imagine that they are. And it's time to move on. And it's time to learn from it

00:19:42.260 all and um and i'm sure people would have made other choices had they had they considered uh

00:19:49.300 this in hindsight but the the truth is you know when you settle you should settle wish the other

00:19:56.800 party the best and move on and you're correct about the fact that there's no dollar figure

00:20:02.300 that exchanged um exchanged uh in in either direction in this document she walked away

00:20:10.620 from the whole thing on the eve of trial

00:20:12.840 because she did not want to sit across from you,

00:20:16.440 Brian Friedman, and have you cross-examine her.

00:20:19.300 Having been in that exact spot, I don't recommend it.

00:20:23.840 Although it's not true.

00:20:25.180 Actually, you and I got along really well.

00:20:26.460 That's when we became fast friends.

00:20:28.180 But it would have gone differently for her.

00:20:30.820 You know what?

00:20:31.920 I think that the parties got to the point

00:20:35.420 where it said, what are we fighting over at this point?

00:20:40.620 Let's reach a result. Let's reach a settlement. Let's move on. Let's, you know, let's live our

00:20:45.780 lives. And and not. But she says here, her lawyer says, though, Brian, you heard him in that in that

00:20:51.940 clip with Matt. He says this that her most potent and powerful claim is this bid for a fee for fees,

00:21:01.440 etc. And that the retaliation now, he says, was Justin's cross claim for defamation. Like

00:21:09.300 just get real honest here. That's not what she claimed was the retaliation in her case,

00:21:16.180 was it? I read the claim. It's been a while, but the retaliation seemed to have been all

00:21:20.740 those other allegations she made about how mean Justin was after she accused him and his business

00:21:29.360 partners of sexually harassing her and like a nasty press campaign that she could never

00:21:34.060 prove he orchestrated? You know, there were a lot of positions taken in the case at various times

00:21:40.160 during the case. Sometimes it was a case about sexual harassment. When the summary judgment

00:21:46.240 motion was, you know, granted, it became a case about the smear campaign. It was a moving target

00:21:55.260 throughout. But notwithstanding any of that, I think everyone would agree that moving on,

00:22:03.200 and allowing people to live their lives and do better and be better is the way to go.

00:22:12.280 I don't think she would agree with that. That's why her lawyer's out there saying

00:22:17.560 they're going to try to get every last cent from Justin. I mean, they clearly want to make him

00:22:24.880 suffer. They're not happy that they had to settle. This is my own gleaning. They're not happy they

00:22:29.640 had to settle. They knew that it was the best move for Blake rather than have her subjected

00:22:33.960 to cross-examination and her reputation already in tatters. It would be even more so. But they're

00:22:39.920 pissed. That's how I read this. And here's more from her lawyer. You certainly sound like you're

00:22:46.240 ready to move on and sound like your normal, sane, classy self. I got a different vibe listening to

00:22:52.520 him. Here he is again, back with Matt Belloni on his podcast, The Town, Sot4.

00:23:02.300 So what are you hoping to get here? Give me a best case scenario dollar amount that you could

00:23:07.740 collect and from who? So I want to step back from that because this lawsuit has never been

00:23:14.920 principally about money for our client. It has been about accountability. It has been about

00:23:19.000 shining a light on this underground smear machine that retaliated against her for raising

00:23:26.320 claims of sexual harassment and retaliation and has harmed so many other people. And what you've

00:23:31.540 seen since Blake stood up and brought this lawsuit is evidence coming out in our case that has led

00:23:37.680 to information being used now in other litigations, the Nicholas case, the Amanda Ghost case.

00:23:44.760 This underground smear machine has been exposed and people are now on notice that if they see, you know, if you see a Matt Bellany sucks dot net website pop up, you're going to maybe have an idea of who might have put that website up.

00:23:59.500 What's your reaction to that, Brian?

00:24:01.600 You know, my reaction to that is is that what you're hearing is clearly disappointment on his part.

00:24:08.740 And a disappointment that he didn't get the numbers that he hoped to get in this case.

00:24:17.020 He didn't get the result that they hoped to get in this case.

00:24:21.080 And, you know, clearly when you bring a case and you hope to prevail on that case, if you have the evidence to show that you're right, you go to trial. 0.80

00:24:32.080 and so it was really easy for us to to to end up in a trial all the all um blake lively needed to

00:24:42.760 do was to say no i'm not settling let's go to a trial and the jury of our peers and let's see what

00:24:49.540 we can get if it was so good why do you settle a case exchanging no money it doesn't make any

00:24:57.480 sense it doesn't pass the smell test but again right that puts us back into the he said she said

00:25:04.400 fight here fight there and i think the settlement agreement speaks for itself um you don't spend

00:25:12.840 30 40 50 60 million dollars and walk away um without um you know without a dollar a dime

00:25:24.460 Yeah. Without a dime, he paid nothing whatsoever. What about the attorney's fees? Do you have any

00:25:32.020 idea, Brian, how much those are likely to clock in at? And is there a component of reasonableness

00:25:39.480 that's going to be required in making that calculation?

00:25:42.980 The attorney's fees are limited by the statute to, first of all, the attorney's fees that were

00:25:48.320 spent on Blake Lively defending a cause of action, and that's the defamation cause of action. So

00:25:54.880 that's one cause of action. It's also one defendant, which was Blake Lively. So it's not,

00:26:04.080 you're not talking about something that would be, you know, involving a number of defendants or a

00:26:09.620 number of causes of action. Also, we have to recall that that's during a time period that

00:26:15.200 what was filed was a motion to dismiss. There wasn't any discovery. I mean, I believe there

00:26:20.560 were somewhere in the neighborhood of 30, 40, maybe more depositions in the case. There were

00:26:26.040 no depositions taken at that time. So there wasn't a significant amount of work that was done at that

00:26:34.160 period of time. So we believe that those should be a pretty reasonable, relatively nominal amount

00:26:42.540 given what was actually happening during that period of time.

00:26:48.600 So we're not necessarily concerned about that.

00:26:53.460 But the truth is this, right?

00:26:56.300 Justin has always supported women, will always continue to do so.

00:27:03.120 And part of the reason that he agreed to have that 47.1 heard and not dismissed it

00:27:10.000 is because he wanted the right result.

00:27:12.180 whatever that right result was, to respect that statute, to respect, to agree to not have appellate

00:27:20.000 rights, to respect that statute, to respect Judge Lyman's opinion of that statute. But he wanted

00:27:25.960 finality. He wanted this to be done and over with. And look, you've heard from the person who the

00:27:35.320 statute was written by, and frankly, on behalf of, and you heard what her feeling was about this.

00:27:43.820 And she had very strong feelings about what the purpose of the statute was, and who the statute

00:27:49.860 was supposed to protect, and why. And without re-litigating or re-hashing that point of view,

00:27:57.900 I think this is a very different case when you look at the power dynamic, and you look at the

00:28:05.200 the actual funds, access to power, access to people, and careers of who we're dealing with

00:28:17.240 here. It doesn't feel like the typical case where you have someone who's made an allegation

00:28:23.600 of sexual harassment or sexual assault, and you all of a sudden have somebody overwhelming

00:28:32.520 somebody with um a lawsuit that um that that uh tends to um scare them and force them into giving

00:28:43.640 them the inability to protect themselves it's not a typical case it's not what was meant for

00:28:49.600 victoria burke who wrote this um statute said that herself right right here on the show um 0.71

00:28:57.600 is this something that would be covered by insurance the attorney's fees brian

00:29:01.860 um i i i don't know the answer to that question whether it would be covered by insurance or not

00:29:07.720 um you know likely you know they're they're i mean we went through during this case we went

00:29:14.740 through a fire right a terrible fire in pacific palisades you were on the air here while your

00:29:20.720 home was by was burning that was awful yeah i i was and i feel terrible for the other people and

00:29:27.240 And, you know, in the areas that they were going through the same thing and the families that suffered, I really think, you know, a lot of people suffered.

00:29:37.900 But, you know, we're still going through it with insurance companies now.

00:29:42.860 So whether something's covered by insurance is an awfully interesting question, not just in the world of this type of case, but also in the world of, you know, of people who suffer, you know, their their homes and losing their homes and smoke damage.

00:29:57.440 Yeah, it's one thing to have insurance. It's another to actually receive the payments that are supposed to be your benefit.

00:30:05.220 How how how did Justin react, Brian, when he found out she wanted to settle this thing as opposed to go to trial?

00:30:13.580 I think that Justin's always wanted to be able to be heard and and he's always wanted to be able to speak and and to be able to share what he experienced, what what you know, what he felt, what his family went through.

00:30:31.720 how he does

00:30:33.920 support women and how he feels

00:30:35.880 about women

00:30:37.820 and how he feels about

00:30:40.060 protecting them and

00:30:41.940 the laws and all of that

00:30:43.920 so I

00:30:45.960 you know I think he was

00:30:47.820 disappointed that

00:30:49.980 he didn't have the form of

00:30:52.100 a trial

00:30:53.080 in which to be able to be heard

00:30:56.220 but you know Megan as you know

00:30:57.960 better than anyone like a trial

00:31:00.080 is hardly

00:31:00.940 the form in which you get to be able to tell your story in the way that you want to know it's a very

00:31:09.360 regulated process where certain things come in certain things don't come in and i'm really

00:31:14.440 you know it's kind of enough about me i'm i'm i'm tired of me frankly and and it should really be

00:31:21.100 about justin and jamie and and jennifer abel and and melissa nathan and steve serowitz and and

00:31:28.580 hearing from them. That's who I want to hear from. These are all the people she accused of

00:31:33.660 engaging in the alleged smear campaign against her, as opposed to Blake just suffering the

00:31:39.160 consequences of being an unlikable person in her many interviews. Yes, I see your point that those

00:31:44.120 people also suffered and they also want this over. And I'm sure they want their reputations back,

00:31:49.260 which I think were there. I mean, for better or for worse, filing that defamation claim

00:31:55.100 did change the whole narrative around this.

00:31:57.740 Even if it's going to cost attorney's fees now,

00:31:59.800 it changed the whole narrative around this whole claim.

00:32:02.140 And that's when Justin really told the world

00:32:04.700 he wasn't going to take this lying down.

00:32:07.420 He wasn't just going to roll into the fetal position

00:32:09.620 and say, go ahead and beat me.

00:32:11.360 I did it all. I'm sorry.

00:32:12.540 I just want you to take you back.

00:32:15.220 It was Christmas time.

00:32:17.840 There were eight, ten hours given by the New York Times to respond.

00:32:22.740 there was a you know a complete um what i'll call hit piece that came out that was untruthful

00:32:30.800 we were scurrying to find first of all lawyers that weren't away for christmas

00:32:36.300 but really to find the truth and we found you know emojis that were removed we found text

00:32:42.920 messages that said you know meet me in the trailer i'm pumping right that were directly

00:32:47.720 opposed to some of the allegations. We found that we were talking about circumcision because

00:32:54.740 she was pregnant. All of these things that were different than what you were reading

00:33:00.240 and really felt it important to try to get those what the kids call receipts out there

00:33:06.540 to try to tell the truth and be transparent. And this hopefully will be the final transparency,

00:33:12.820 but we're putting that settlement agreement out for everyone to see so they can take a look at

00:33:18.540 it. They can see what exchanged hands or actually what didn't exchange hands. And we want to

00:33:23.560 continue with that transparency and honesty with respect to showing the people what actually

00:33:30.060 happened. You can go see it right now at megankelly.com for yourselves. What's going to

00:33:36.660 happened now with Justin? Because I haven't seen him in an acting project since this whole thing

00:33:44.680 came out. Is he going to renew his career? How does he feel about doing that? Where's his head

00:33:52.140 on that? My belief is that he will renew his career. I don't know exactly. I think that from

00:34:00.260 day to day. You know, probably he has different thoughts, but I'm sure he will try and renew his

00:34:07.960 career. I think that he's, you know, a super meaningful, super caring person. And more than

00:34:15.440 anything, right, if you could tell anything in this case, all you had to do was read his text

00:34:21.400 messages and his emails and and you know and you can see what's true person he is and that's why

00:34:30.400 we were never afraid to just have the truth come out to have the documents come out and um and and

00:34:37.900 i think he'll he'll go on to great things in life um and i'm really looking forward to that for him

00:34:43.900 i'm looking forward to his healing i'm looking forward to emily and his children's you know

00:34:49.560 futures. And I can just say, honestly, it's been an absolute honor to represent someone of that

00:34:57.500 character. I know you don't say that about everyone. Just for the record, Brian's also

00:35:03.300 represented Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo. Never mind. He doesn't say that about everyone. Not

00:35:08.460 everyone's personal emails reflect well on them, but they have in this case. You've produced them

00:35:13.640 even while he was being bullied by her

00:35:16.220 into the basement at his movie premiere.

00:35:18.960 His messaging, and you gave it all to us.

00:35:21.540 You gave us the voice memos, you gave us the emails.

00:35:23.500 That also is on megankelly.com

00:35:25.900 and you can hear it for yourselves,

00:35:27.620 was of someone who is very sweet

00:35:29.900 trying to navigate a really difficult situation

00:35:33.080 and always saying nice things about Blake,

00:35:36.780 like trying to maintain people's positive opinions of her.

00:35:40.260 She just made it impossible.

00:35:41.680 Last question. There are over 1,400 entries on the docket in this case. Some of the filings are over 100 pages long. Brian, is this thing finally over?

00:35:53.480 um i think uh i think it's finally over i'm hoping it's finally over with respect to

00:36:02.220 allowing blake to move on allowing justin and the other parties to move on there's still some

00:36:09.320 collateral matters um involved in this that that have to be resolved but but the crux of the case

00:36:16.220 and the crux of the issues, I think people are going to be able to move on. And hopefully people

00:36:24.240 will wish the best for each other and come to that place that says, you know what, enough is enough.

00:36:30.280 We can agree to disagree. I feel I'm right. You feel you're right. And everyone through

00:36:38.780 transparency and authenticity has been able to make their own decisions. And from the beginning

00:36:44.700 where we had nothing in our favor we had no one in our favor so today where i believe that the

00:36:52.300 great great majority of people see who justin baldoni is um it's really changed significantly

00:37:00.100 and i'm really happy for him and see who blake lively is too brian thank you thanks so much all

00:37:08.260 the best to you and to justin too and the rest of the defendants uh who were well represented and

00:37:12.860 this is a great result for them. Let's hope the judge keep these attorney's fees relatively low

00:37:17.560 and does not engage in any nonsense about trouble, damages, and punitives. So again,

00:37:22.540 go to megankelly.com right now. If you would like to read exclusively the settlement agreement

00:37:28.080 and general release between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, we've gotten our hands on it.

00:37:33.520 All the exhibits are here too. You can see for yourself exactly what they agreed with,

00:37:38.640 how they came up with the joint statement that they would release, and the signatures of the

00:37:44.900 parties on the back of it. Not one red cent was exchanged between them after all of her nonsense,

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00:40:18.960 We are learning more now about the latest agreement between Iran and the United States,

00:40:24.680 the fragile ceasefire, and who's really mad about it. Plus, the UFC fight at the White House last

00:40:29.940 night was a spectacle, as was the bizarre resistance counter-programming, which is just

00:40:36.660 good, clean fun. We're going to show you what they were doing. Julie Roberts made a guest star

00:40:41.240 appearance. Of all things to show your face at, my God, what was she thinking? Here to break it

00:40:46.500 all down for us is Glenn Greenwald. He's host of System Update on Substack and the first

00:40:51.540 Megyn Kelly show guest ever, the official godfather of the MK show. Glenn, welcome back.

00:40:58.980 Thank you.

00:40:59.460 One of my proudest titles, if not the proudest in my career.

00:41:04.900 Okay, so what a day to have you.

00:41:06.600 We just got lucky. 0.93

00:41:07.300 We didn't know that there was going to be a settlement inked with Iran today.

00:41:12.500 But actually, that's the news hitting just as we come to air, which is the following.

00:41:18.280 New from the New York Times, Trump and J.D. Vance both have electronically signed the

00:41:23.920 framework agreement with Mohammed Bagherz Galabaf, one of the leaders of Iran's war effort.

00:41:31.840 So we've signed a deal, and we don't exactly know what the deal is, but we're getting some hints.

00:41:41.260 So the New York Times had a long interview with Donald Trump, and he said that it will

00:41:47.300 ultimately assure that the Strait of Hormuz is permanently toll free. It appears the Iranians 1.00

00:41:53.840 were already disputing that, suggesting not permanently, maybe for two months, but they're

00:41:59.920 not necessarily giving up their right to charge tolls. Let's see. Then saying that we will deal

00:42:08.380 with the nuclear agreements later. We're going to start talking about that after. So it's kind of

00:42:14.120 like, let's cease fire now. Let's reopen the strait. We'll remove our blockade. And as for

00:42:19.720 you're not enriching any more uranium, or at least not enriching it to the point where we don't like

00:42:26.540 it, above whatever it is, 3.47 to 3.67 percent, we'll deal with that later. And as for the so-called

00:42:33.680 nuclear dust, like the previously enriched uranium that we were told was obliterated by our strikes

00:42:41.240 last June, we'll deal with that later too. But there's going to be some nuclear agreement to be

00:42:47.480 negotiated, that's going to severely restrict Iran. This is what we believe. And in response, 0.80

00:42:55.040 or in, you know, as a result of all this, if we do it, then we are going to allegedly provide

00:43:02.580 full sanctions relief and access to $25 billion in frozen funds of the Iranians. That again is

00:43:11.020 per the New York Times. Now, just to add to it, the Iranians came out, CBS News reporting this,

00:43:17.020 The Iranian Revolutionary Guard, which is in charge now, it added more color.

00:43:22.440 It says, immediate and permanent cessation of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon.

00:43:28.100 No more battling between Israel and Hezbollah in Lebanon.

00:43:31.140 A U.S. commitment not to interfere in Iran's internal affairs.

00:43:34.360 Again, not confirmed by Trump.

00:43:36.380 This is via CBS citing the Iranian side.

00:43:39.300 Full lifting of the naval blockade.

00:43:41.300 U.S. commitment to withdraw forces from the region around Iran.

00:43:44.760 Not sure what that means.

00:43:46.220 Reopening of the strait within 30 days under Iranian arrangements.

00:43:50.120 Don't know what that last qualifier means.

00:43:52.240 Suspension of sanctions on the sale of Iranian oil, petrochemical products and derivatives and full Iranian access to revenues.

00:44:00.540 So that's going to be very lucrative to the Iranians.

00:44:03.820 U.S. and its allies required to present reconstruction plans for Iran worth at least 300 billion.

00:44:10.040 We believe that because J.D. Vance seemed to confirm it if they meet certain conditions on the news this morning.

00:44:17.160 60 days of negotiations to reach a final agreement on nuclear issues, as I just mentioned.

00:44:21.760 So that one's kind of being punted to be to be negotiated.

00:44:24.580 And the complete lifting of primary and secondary U.S. sanctions against Iran.

00:44:30.100 Now, that would be a big number.

00:44:31.960 and like that's if we really do lift all sanctions for them and reconstruct iran and make 25 billion

00:44:42.180 dollars available in frozen funds too i don't know whether that's in the sanction relief or not

00:44:47.620 maybe they won't charge in the strait of hormuz maybe we're just going to make them so rich that

00:44:53.320 they're going to be like who cares about the strait uh and then there's uh yeah u.s commits

00:44:59.000 not to increase its forces in the region during this time.

00:45:02.300 Iran will reaffirm its commitment

00:45:04.060 under the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty

00:45:06.260 not to produce nuclear weapons.

00:45:08.360 And then they add as a separate deal part,

00:45:10.320 separate and apart from the complete lifting

00:45:11.880 of primary and secondary U.S. sanctions,

00:45:13.940 the release of $24 billion in frozen Iranian funds

00:45:16.640 during the 60-day period.

00:45:20.140 They get like half and then half later.

00:45:24.000 So that's where we are now.

00:45:26.680 Critics who are Democrats are saying it's a worse deal than Obama's JCPOA.

00:45:34.400 Critics who are Republicans are the neocons, like Mark Levin, who seems to be in a tailspin this morning,

00:45:41.160 rage tweeting every five minutes about he needs to see the deal points.

00:45:45.900 And why are we bashing Netanyahu?

00:45:47.400 Because Trump is and he's he deserves a kind word. 0.99

00:45:50.640 And what basically what is this bullshit is his point of view? 0.99

00:45:54.140 Like, I'm happy it's ending. That's my take on this. I wish it had never started. I don't know 0.99

00:45:59.840 that this is better than where we were when we were actually negotiating with Iran before we

00:46:03.520 started this war. But whatever. Let's get it. Get it done is my current feeling. Now back to you.

00:46:11.500 Yeah, there's so much there, which is why it kind of shocks me both in general. But right now to say

00:46:17.500 that I do think the one point Mark Levin made that is valid is that since the deal has been

00:46:24.100 signed and it's not the final deal, it's a memorandum of understanding to stop the war for

00:46:28.100 60 days in order to get a final deal. But everyone understands that if you stop a war of this

00:46:32.700 magnitude for 60 days, you're stopping the war. You wouldn't do it otherwise. If the deal is

00:46:37.520 already signed, as J.D. Vance and Donald Trump both have confirmed that it is, we ought to see

00:46:41.820 the terms of the deal. The reality is that we know essentially what's in the deal,

00:46:47.060 not only because the Iranians have disclosed it and not only because members of Congress and

00:46:51.420 certain reporters have seen it, but also because of what Iran was saying about this deal were just

00:46:55.940 fabricated or completely false. You would, of course, expect the Trump White House to be saying

00:47:00.700 that it's false. And they're not doing that. In fact, as you said, J.D. Vance is confirming it.

00:47:05.160 So what we do have is the outline, basically, of a deal. And we can talk about the deal. And we

00:47:10.380 absolutely should. I think what we are going to see end up happening. And it's extremely ironic,

00:47:15.700 given that it was kind of a central promise of the Trump 2016 campaign in the Trump first term

00:47:21.180 to claim that the JCPOA was the worst deal ever negotiated, that we had to immediately withdraw

00:47:26.600 from it because it was such a threat to American national security. That was the Israeli view.

00:47:31.340 But from the American perspective, that deal, I'm not saying it was perfect, 0.62

00:47:35.260 but it certainly worked to keep Iran from doing things like enriching past 3.67 percent.

00:47:40.760 They only started enriching at 60 percent after Trump withdrew from the deal.

00:47:44.340 And what we're going to have is a deal that's similar to that, though probably without as many of the intrusive safeguards that that original deal had, on top of which Iran has been unbelievably emboldened and strengthened by the fact that they stood down the world's most powerful military and none of the stated goals that the United States government insisted it was intending to fulfill at the start of the war.

00:48:06.060 not all of them, but none of them has really been fulfilled. Iran's government is obviously

00:48:11.660 still very much in place. Their ballistic missile system has been somewhat degraded,

00:48:15.680 but they could easily replace it. Their drone capacity is very high. They still have that

00:48:19.920 enriched uranium buried under the soil. They still have the right to enrich. They're still

00:48:24.780 able to fund what are called proxies in the region. I mean, none of the stated goals that

00:48:28.720 the Israelis and the Americans at the start of the war said the war was about have been fulfilled.

00:48:33.200 And on top of that, not only are those aims unfulfilled, but Iran will be much better off by now being reintegrated back into the world economy, able to sell their oil on the global market above and away from sanctions, have their funds that we froze unfrozen so that they have availability to them.

00:48:50.200 I'm thrilled this war is over.

00:48:51.780 I don't think the war should have ever started. But the Israelis understand and all of them are saying with a lot of rage and resentment that this was basically, if you don't want to say Iran won the war, certainly they didn't lose the war and they're coming out as strong, if not stronger than when the war began, which is quite a remarkable observation, given that the United States is the most powerful military in the world.

00:49:14.520 Yeah, not to mention that they've realized they have this other nuclear bomb, which is the Strait of Hormuz and their ability to control it, which is like brand new was not the case beforehand.

00:49:24.660 But, you know, my own feeling and watching this whole thing is clearly President Trump wanted that straight back open.

00:49:31.200 He wanted oil to continue to flow or to resume its flow through the straight.

00:49:35.420 And I think that's important and a good idea.

00:49:38.760 But my first takeaway after that was we better make damn sure somehow that there are ways around the Strait of Hormuz. 1.00

00:49:45.980 Like immediately, that should be our number one job right now is to open up the oil flow, not using the strait so that we remove this important tool from the Iranians deck of cards. 0.98

00:49:58.640 Right. Because otherwise they're going to hold it over our heads forever and we're just going to have to keep going back over there. 1.00

00:50:04.000 In fact, Trump reportedly said something to The New York Times along the lines of, we'll go over there if we have to and we'll like be the policeman, we'll be the guardian.

00:50:14.620 Here's how The Times reported it, that Trump insisted if Iran failed to reach a final nuclear accord with us, a process his aides say they expect will begin this Friday in Switzerland,

00:50:25.480 that Trump would restart military attacks on Tehran, quote, or make the US the guardian of

00:50:32.160 the Middle East in return for 20% of the region's revenues. Good God. No, no, thanks. No American

00:50:40.800 voted for that. We don't want to be the guardian of the Middle East at all. You know, but Megan, 0.97

00:50:45.600 this is to me, the kind of overarching mystery and bizarre aspect of what happened here is that

00:50:53.760 it's not like nobody had looked at a map before this war began and figured out for the first time

00:50:59.200 that the Strait of Hormuz is this critical passageway for the world economy, not just for

00:51:04.680 oil, but for natural gas and a whole bunch of other petrochemicals on which the world economy

00:51:09.380 depends. And there's basically unless you want to move Iran, like actually physically move it 0.91

00:51:13.940 from one place to another, which we don't have the ability to do is we one of the reasons why 0.69

00:51:20.320 presidents never went to war with Iran is because of the immense leverage that they had. And by the 0.68

00:51:24.700 way, the leverage is not just being able to shut the Strait of Hormuz as they've done for the last

00:51:30.260 several months. They can also destroy with great ease and always will be able to the entire energy

00:51:36.340 infrastructure of our Persian Gulf allies, meaning the Arab dictatorships to Saudi Arabia and the 0.91

00:51:41.760 Emirates. And they prove that as well. And so it's not just the ability to choke off the Strait of

00:51:46.260 moves, it's also the ability, and they only exercised a small portion of this power,

00:51:51.000 to be able to just, these little countries that we call the Persian Gulf allies are really not

00:51:58.440 even countries. They're tiny little gas stations. They're filled with very few people. We have to

00:52:03.500 protect them. And Iran is a real country, like a big country, three times the size of Iraq.

00:52:09.780 And they are able very easily to destroy that energy infrastructure in a way that will cause 0.99

00:52:14.720 economic collapse. And the thing is, Megan, this is what I think we always have to come back to is

00:52:19.840 Donald Trump knew all this. He said it all before. He's talked about it all before. He's talked about

00:52:26.080 the reasons why these kinds of regime change wars are so destructive. When was the last one that

00:52:30.880 ever ended well from the perspective of the American people? You barely can think of one.

00:52:35.700 Maybe you can go back to the last century and find one. But recently, these wars have been

00:52:40.260 nothing but disastrous. Trump built his whole political identity on this. The lots of people

00:52:45.060 were telling Trump this, that this is what was going to happen if he entered this war with

00:52:49.080 Netanyahu. He knew that, and yet he did it anyway. And I think he got into the middle of it.

00:52:55.060 And now what you're seeing is a kind of speech from an American president about Israel and

00:52:59.720 Netanyahu that we haven't quite heard before. And I think the only reason is because Trump

00:53:04.440 really ended up with no alternative. He had to get out of this war for the economy of the United

00:53:09.240 States, for the world economy, and his political interest is the midterms approach.

00:53:14.260 Yes, because what Trump's now saying was in our AM update this morning, but he's basically like,

00:53:20.380 Israel, I don't know what Netanyahu's effing doing, and apparently said to him,

00:53:23.880 you don't know what you're effing doing, and was very frank with him, and very angry that

00:53:28.680 he continues to engage in a bombing campaign against Hezbollah in Lebanon. He claims that

00:53:36.920 they struck first. Trump's response is what they hit you with was an absolute nothing. No one got

00:53:41.940 hurt. You're using that as a fig leaf in order to launch your much larger and more devastating

00:53:48.000 attacks, which will lead to us never being able to end this. He's finally lost his patience with

00:53:55.840 Netanyahu. I've got to I've lost my time in the first hour of the show. Here we go to break. We

00:54:01.960 come back with Glenn on the opposite side. So much more to discuss. Don't leave. If you are heading

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00:55:09.420 glenn greenwald host of system update on substack is my guest today my guest tomorrow

00:55:19.820 will be jd vance the vice president of the united states and what a day to get him on the heels of

00:55:27.460 this Iran deal. He's got a new book he's promoting all about his faith, which I'm very much looking

00:55:32.900 forward to discussing with him. So that'll be a fun show. And we also have, he's the second hour

00:55:37.000 tomorrow. Wait until you hear who is the first hour. Whoa, this is going to be an interesting

00:55:42.060 show. Don't forget to download tomorrow's. Glenn, welcome back. There's a lot more to get to.

00:55:48.000 We can go back to the Iran deal as well, but I wanted to move forward and talk a bit about what

00:55:53.340 happened at the White House yesterday, and then what happened in New York over the weekend.

00:55:57.080 They're sports stories, but they made their way into my lane of news stories, and therefore

00:56:02.140 they make it onto the MK Show.

00:56:04.300 The UFC event at the White House yesterday, and I don't watch UFC.

00:56:09.660 I don't like violence.

00:56:10.900 I don't like violent movies.

00:56:12.800 I don't like, I really just don't like, I don't like Full Metal Jacket, The Green Mile,

00:56:16.900 like anything involving torture, or you can like break somebody's bone in UFC.

00:56:22.620 It's crazy.

00:56:23.340 I respect them. Like they're very tough, but it's just not for me. However, it's very American and

00:56:30.860 it's pretty cool. And I love that Trump did it differently and had this event on the White House

00:56:35.480 lawn that is totally Trumpy. Like good for him. You know, it wasn't so long ago we had trannies

00:56:40.500 on the White House lawn showing their fake boobs naked in front of the people's home, which is 1.00

00:56:45.260 disgusting. Now, as we go into last night, the big question was, will the big event go off or 0.99

00:56:51.480 will it not because DC was experiencing some bad weather. And the Weather Channel sends out

00:57:00.180 the most, I got to say, bizarre forecast. I'm putting that in air quotes. I don't know what

00:57:08.080 this was. Here it is. UFC Freedom 250 is facing a chaotic weather setup on the White House South

00:57:14.880 lawn. Okay, so far it's fine. With a 60% chance of thunderstorms, heavy downpours, and wind gusts,

00:57:21.160 up to 34 miles per hour, threatening to delay the outdoor fights.

00:57:27.040 Here we go.

00:57:28.040 On top of the storm risk, brutal D.C. humidity is driving a triple-digit heat index

00:57:33.680 alongside massive swarms of mosquitoes and gnats that fighters will have to battle inside the cage.

00:57:41.500 While the venue's massive 92-foot overhang will keep the octagon dry,

00:57:45.380 a single lightning strike within eight miles will trigger an automatic 30-minute freeze on the

00:57:50.520 entire event what have you ever heard a forecast about the mosquitoes and the gnats i have to say

00:58:01.540 i do think there's an agenda going on at the weather channel yeah i mean the picture they

00:58:07.040 painted is scarier than anything you can find in the old testament when god gets like exceptionally

00:58:12.220 angry and destroys entire cities and honestly when i first read it i almost thought it must

00:58:18.020 be satirical like there was kind of a level of irony that they knew that they were doing because

00:58:22.140 it's it you know it starts off already kind of dramatic in a way that that surprises you and

00:58:27.720 then the more it goes the more it just gets yeah i mean biblical is really the only term i can think

00:58:32.340 of but like almost threatening and it's and it's not even a generalized warning for washington

00:58:38.880 residents it's a specific weather threat like a meteorological omen for this event that a lot of

00:58:45.700 people for whatever reasons have have a problem with i'm still hoping there was some winking and

00:58:50.400 nodding of of satire and what they were doing but we've seen so many instances where supposedly just

00:58:56.700 like very neutral institutions become outrageously political in the most inappropriate ways that it

00:59:03.300 really leaves you wondering yes the um the rapid response account uh which writes for the

00:59:10.120 administration responded this event is about celebrating america's unmatched greatness after 1.00

00:59:15.340 250 years which apparently doesn't sit well with the friendless loser who wrote this bullshit 0.98

00:59:20.320 clickbait headline rain or shine we're celebrating our great country no matter what god bless america 0.98

00:59:26.660 and they were right because while there was like a half an hour rain delay the fights did go off

00:59:33.080 A great time was held by all. And I do have a lot of friends who love UFC and like their feedback on this event was so positive. They loved the entire weekend. They had the military flyovers. They had Zach Brown, who refused to not sing, even though he came under all sorts of the usual criticism.

00:59:54.560 How dare you? How dare you? You know, at the President Trump event, he was like, stop it.

00:59:58.800 This is about America. I'm doing it. Did not fold the anthem. Like all of it was very patriotic.

01:00:05.860 And yet if you've got the TDS, Glenn, you're not allowed to enjoy this. You got to shit on it 1.00

01:00:12.000 however you can. The mosquitoes and the swarms of gnats and the terrible Zach Brown who flouted 1.00

01:00:18.860 his duty as an American. Here was the walkout. Trump and Dana White walking from the Oval

01:00:25.000 under like, well, the the covered part of the White House and then out into the so-called

01:00:30.720 octagon. That's where they have the fights. It was, you know, no, no moment of theater, theater

01:00:37.440 or, you know, presentation dramatics was spared, which is perfectly on brand for both men,

01:00:43.260 actually. Yeah. You know, I actually think that these are the sorts of things where liberals have

01:00:49.200 done the greatest favor to Trump by acting completely hysterical and just seemingly

01:00:55.640 being very petulant and resentful and bitter and angry over what at the end of the day are really

01:01:02.420 just kind of inconsequential cultural celebrations. I mean, inconsequential from the sense that

01:01:09.040 there's no political harm to them or anything else like that and the ability to get liberals

01:01:13.860 worked up over things that in context let's remember we're still involved in this major

01:01:19.540 very dangerous war there's all kinds of economic harm and damages that americans are feeling to

01:01:24.220 get liberals focused on this instead and have them whine and complain about a kind of cultural

01:01:30.160 spectacle that isn't for everybody i'm not the target audience for it i didn't watch it but i

01:01:35.180 I know that huge numbers of Americans do and have every right to be as included in White House celebrations and cultural celebrations is whatever the Obama administration like to do in order to show how elevated and and and, you know, kind of uplifting Obama's intellect was.

01:01:52.800 this is all part of kind of like what makes america great is the cultural diversity of it

01:01:56.620 and it's he's so good trump is and and their team at provoking liberals into drawing attention away

01:02:03.440 from what benefits them politically and instead whining and complaining about this sort of stuff

01:02:07.560 that they have just become their own worst enemies why would you begrudge a celebration of this kind

01:02:13.860 that obviously tens of millions of americans take a kind of pride in and feel like they're

01:02:18.340 culturally represented in a way that these kind of people haven't always felt and in a way it's

01:02:23.260 kind of one of the promises of the trump administration was to start including in our

01:02:27.000 dc politics in our national life a kind of part of our country that's very important that has

01:02:32.660 represents a lot of people but that has kind of been scorned upon when it's not excluded and they 0.97

01:02:38.260 always fall right into the trap of sounding like douchebags and elitist assholes by saying this is 0.97

01:02:45.180 a degradation of the white house when it's things that tens of millions of americans 0.99

01:02:49.480 see as their culture and that they love and find entertainment in they're still doing it this

01:02:55.200 morning i made the mistake of putting on msnbc for a little while on sirius xm you can listen

01:03:00.420 to it and i was like that word kept coming up over and over even on cnn i heard it too like

01:03:05.740 they they think this was this was a degradation that this was somehow a defilement of the white

01:03:11.660 House grounds, the vaunted White House grounds. It's like Joe Biden had a tranny out there 0.93

01:03:17.920 showing his fake naked boobs all over the White House. And yes, they were forced to condemn it 1.00

01:03:25.700 after it happened because there was a national outcry after like, how dare you do that? But I

01:03:30.720 mean, please, would you just stop, stop, spare me on, you know, your standards of taste? Because

01:03:37.060 there are none. We saw what your standards of taste were to say nothing. Yeah. To say nothing

01:03:42.880 of what American presidents have been doing in that White House forever, going back to JFK and 0.97

01:03:47.300 the hordes of women that he had in Bill Clinton's blowjobs in the Oval Office. We're now going to 0.97

01:03:52.780 pretend that unless it's like highfalutin enough culture, somehow it degrades the sanctity of the

01:03:58.340 White House that has seen all sorts of things ever since it was constructed because human

01:04:03.460 beings occupy it it's it's just the kind of artificial controversy that liberals just can't

01:04:09.600 help and i think the reason why they love it is because they do get to feel kind of like elevated

01:04:14.600 and superior it allows them to look down upon the culture of the people with whom they disagree with

01:04:20.040 politically yet it's just too tempting of a psychological benefit for them to resist

01:04:23.960 watch this this is this is from 2024 or 2023 24 look at this okay this is trans day of visibility

01:04:32.540 at the White House. Joe Biden's right there. Look, there's the naked boobs. That's a man.

01:04:39.160 This is absurd that anybody who supported this would have the nerve to talk about the degradation

01:04:46.760 of the White House grounds, the defilement. Please spare me your lectures. That was disgusting.

01:04:54.140 We've never really recovered from it, let's be honest. And this is like a restoration of

01:04:59.260 masculinity and what it actually is. So I applaud that as well. Like, yeah, let's get back to

01:05:05.800 masculinity. While I'm on the subject of masculinity and the trans people, I've got to spend one moment 1.00

01:05:12.520 on Elliot Page, who makes me so uncomfortable. Elliot Page was a cute female and still is a 1.00

01:05:20.520 female. The name has changed. She was Ellen Page. And now she goes by Elliot and wants us to believe

01:05:26.580 she's a man, which she's not, but it's a very poor imitation. She starred in Juno and here she is.

01:05:32.440 Okay, fine. She's going to pretend she's a man now. Not only is she pretending she's a man, 0.51

01:05:36.240 she had a little lecture on how she believes she's feeling a healthy masculinity, unlike

01:05:44.880 the toxic masculinity, obviously, of all the people who support Donald Trump or just vote

01:05:51.720 Republican. Take a listen to this at 34. Healthy masculinity to me is, or even just something I've

01:05:58.160 felt as like transitioning is like leaning away from whenever there is some sort of impulse or

01:06:07.060 expectation you've put on yourself to like shut down or conform in a way that usually feels like

01:06:14.060 this, like I am closing off. I remember kind of being like, oh, Elliot, maybe you should,

01:06:19.460 you know talk with your hands a little less or uh you know maybe in pictures you're because

01:06:24.540 ever since transitioning now i'm like johnny i'm smiling i am smiling in those photos whereas i

01:06:31.220 used to be so i could barely look at a photo of myself i was always like you know and now

01:06:35.420 and i'll be taking to say a dude's like hey are you are you victor from umbrella academy you know

01:06:40.540 and we're doing a photo together he's very i'm right yeah and like having that moment where i'm

01:06:46.000 like, oh, should I also not? Like, should I also be closed off? It's just like, what the fuck,

01:06:51.440 Elliot? What are you, what are you talking about? Like, oh, honey, you're the part of the problem. 1.00

01:06:57.100 Okay. So it's now toxically male to not gesticulate, talk with your hands a lot,

01:07:07.060 to not overshare, to be a dignified, stoic man. 0.77

01:07:13.000 That's toxic.

01:07:15.320 And Elliot will show all the rest of you, Glenn, actual men,

01:07:20.160 what it really means to be masculine.

01:07:24.060 And it does not include closing off from people.

01:07:28.720 If you close off, that's the bad masculinity.

01:07:32.840 If you just regurgitate every feeling

01:07:35.740 and gesticulate with your hands while doing it,

01:07:37.960 Gavin Newsom style, you might say,

01:07:39.700 that's the good kind of masculinity, like Elliot lives.

01:07:43.840 You know, there's so much here, actually,

01:07:46.040 that as somebody who became kind of part of

01:07:50.400 and had my life affected by what was called

01:07:52.440 the gay and lesbian equality movement,

01:07:54.740 you know, starting in like the 80s and 90s

01:07:56.460 when I first became aware of it coming of age,

01:07:58.740 to compare what it's become now,

01:08:01.240 it's not just a different movement

01:08:02.900 or in a different category.

01:08:04.140 It's almost like the exact antithesis in terms of what its ethos is supposed to be.

01:08:09.020 I think I might have mentioned this to you once.

01:08:10.360 I don't know, though.

01:08:11.400 In Brazil, there's this left wing politician. 0.98

01:08:15.060 She she was born a man. 0.87

01:08:16.660 She's she's now identifies as a trans woman.

01:08:19.080 And they just made her the leader in Congress of the Commission on Women.

01:08:23.600 And she's been a woman for like, I don't know, 13 seconds. 0.75

01:08:26.040 And she goes around lecturing everybody on what real femininity is, even like to other 0.53

01:08:31.800 women who don't who live their whole lives as women were born women and the audacity of that

01:08:37.420 is so it's so amazing to me it's kind of like you know these these these people who are lifelong

01:08:41.860 republicans become democrats because they hate trump and then start immediately telling you what

01:08:45.440 a real democrat is but this there's so many things that has been bothering me about this

01:08:50.500 new iteration of like what is now called the lgbtq all those other acronyms and one of the things

01:08:55.700 that bothers me the most is that we actually made progress i think progress in society where

01:09:00.760 people weren't as confined to gender roles. Like to be a little girl didn't mean you can't play

01:09:06.420 sports or to be a boy started to mean that it was fine to have an interest in art or fashion or

01:09:11.620 whatever. These we kind of had like women were allowed to be in the workplace. Men could have

01:09:16.620 a kind of more interest in raising kids. These things kind of became fine. And so much of this

01:09:22.500 discourse is so regressive. I mean, listen to Elliot Page saying this is how a woman is. A 0.97

01:09:27.240 woman behaves this way a woman doesn't gesticulate with hand gestures only men do this it's like 0.98

01:09:32.620 they're imposing these extremely rigid gender roles that i thought we had moved past you know 0.79

01:09:37.580 past to the point that now if some you know celebrity parent looks at their six-year-old

01:09:42.380 who was born a girl but like sports they immediately say oh you're not a girl you're

01:09:47.000 a boy you like sports or a boy says oh i don't want to go play sports i'm kind of interested in

01:09:52.140 these in in drawing oh that's a very feminine trait it's like such a regressive form of looking

01:09:58.860 at gender dressed up as this very progressive and radical movement and you and you see that

01:10:03.540 so manifest in the way that elliot page is lecturing us about what it means to be a man and

01:10:08.460 also i have to say as somebody who does tend to have more male friends and who's always kind of

01:10:13.740 had uh just like a general disposition to being more around men than women that discourse everything

01:10:20.860 I heard Elliot Page say code is very female to me which is so ironic like the way she's

01:10:26.820 introspective about like that no men talk like that no men I know think that way or talk that

01:10:31.720 way and here she is saying I'm a man and it sounds like a woman in therapy like a standard

01:10:36.080 liberal woman in New York on the Upper West Side like in therapy intent like trying to understand

01:10:41.500 her own shyness or inhibitions or whatever that is so true it's such a good point she doesn't

01:10:47.500 sound all like any man I know. That's not how men talk. No men. No men talk like that. Doug and I

01:10:53.900 have an ongoing joke of, I'll just say to him, like, well, we're sitting there on the couch and

01:10:59.260 I'll say, do you want to talk about our feelings? And we both laugh because it's just, I'm not

01:11:05.020 really that way either, to be honest. And he's really not that way. He's a Presbyterian from

01:11:09.940 the main line. So yeah, it's a no. And we just joke about it. Like men are not like, oh, with 0.96

01:11:15.960 hands, my feelings. Let's do this. And that's, yeah. So she's, she's got thoughts. Okay. I want

01:11:21.120 to get back to what happened last night because we had the UFC event again, much, much better than

01:11:27.140 where we were just a couple of short years ago. And yet it had to be counter-programmed by the

01:11:32.740 lunatic left led by, of course, who else? Jane Fonda. Here's a little bit of how that sounded. 0.99

01:11:40.060 This isn't the first time that Americans' rights have come under attack.

01:11:46.160 But this time, what is really different from the last century are the attacks are coming

01:11:53.780 from every part of the government, the executive, the legislative, and the Supreme Court.

01:11:59.940 There is a clear effort to destroy our fundamental democratic rights and dramatically retake

01:12:07.980 our form of governance.

01:12:10.980 I think the Un-American Activities Committee right now is coming from the White House.

01:12:18.260 I got to give you one more.

01:12:20.060 There's a couple, but I got to give you one more. 0.87

01:12:22.540 Let's check in on Bette Midler and what happened when she got up there.

01:12:26.000 It's not 30B. 0.99

01:12:27.280 All you fascists bound to lose.

01:12:30.480 You're bound to lose. 0.95

01:12:32.200 You're fascists bound to lose. 0.99

01:12:35.480 Hey there, all you fascists. 0.98

01:12:37.240 Let me put you straight 0.97

01:12:39.060 When you come for the rest of us 0.72

01:12:41.600 We'll fight you at the gate 0.99

01:12:43.220 And you will lose 1.00

01:12:44.840 You fascist pal to lose 0.97

01:12:47.260 Megan, can I tell you something about that clip? 0.98

01:12:54.320 I'm like very traumatized right now

01:12:56.440 I saw that clip online

01:12:58.360 And I just thought that that was some like 1.00

01:13:00.220 Standard white progressive lady 1.00

01:13:02.480 Who's like a Democrat 1.00

01:13:03.440 I didn't know that was Bette Midler 1.00

01:13:05.840 Until you just told me 0.99

01:13:06.760 And it's very Bette Midler used to be super cool. 0.74

01:13:10.000 And this is like, she's now turned into like Rachel Maddow's grandma.

01:13:13.640 And I just a couple of points on this.

01:13:15.820 Robert De Niro in a dress.

01:13:17.200 Yeah, totally.

01:13:17.960 And like, I just want like when like there was a time,

01:13:22.000 maybe like a decade ago and I was getting invited, you know,

01:13:23.840 when Citizen Four came out, the film that that was about my work was noted

01:13:26.680 and won an Oscar when I was kind of like integrated into Hollywood stuff.

01:13:29.760 I'm sure the way you were when you had your film out and other times as well.

01:13:33.000 And there was always this perception that like Hollywood politics is super

01:13:36.140 radical left it really isn't it's like very like establishment democrat and you know jane fonda

01:13:44.120 too used to have pretty radical politics in the 60s like marching against the war obviously going

01:13:47.780 very controversially to to north vietnam and all these people i guess like as they just evolved

01:13:53.240 they just turn into really ordinary boring democrats they're like chuck schumer and nancy

01:13:58.420 pelosi and it's a very superficial politics and i'll just give you a quick example like okay

01:14:02.840 There's Jane Fonda giving a speech about a speech in defense of free speech.

01:14:06.240 I do think free speech is under attack right now.

01:14:08.680 I always think free speech is under attack as somebody who's made that a primary cause of my life.

01:14:14.040 Free speech was under attack at least as much, if not way more so, during the Biden administration when they had a systematic campaign to bully and threaten and pressure and coerce big tech into censoring and banning dissidents from their policies, including on COVID in Ukraine, from the entire Internet.

01:14:30.380 That what court said was one of the most full frontal assaults on free speech in decades.

01:14:34.540 Do you think Bette Midler and Jane Fonda and any of them are raising their voices against it?

01:14:39.100 Of course not, because they've just become very like boring state partisans.

01:14:44.180 They don't have a fascism to them means Donald Trump.

01:14:47.580 And you get rid of fascism by electing Kamala Harris.

01:14:50.140 It's nothing more interesting or or complex than that. 0.97

01:14:55.120 By the way, Kamala Harris, too, launched her campaign. 0.97

01:14:57.700 And one of her first stops was on RuPaul's Drag Race show where the week before they had some tranny walking down the runway with fake boobs, like in a in a bag and a clear cellophane bag dripping with blood. 0.99

01:15:10.480 The the display was his chest, like missing breasts with fake blood dripping down. 1.00

01:15:17.240 That's the classiness of the Biden administration that they wanted to return us to to get us away from the disgusting debauchery of the Trump administration. 0.99

01:15:26.140 It's a no.

01:15:27.140 No, thank you.

01:15:28.460 I mentioned Robert De Niro.

01:15:29.920 Of course he was there.

01:15:31.760 So you got Bette Midler, who is the female Robert De Niro, the actual Robert De Niro

01:15:35.660 was there. 0.80

01:15:36.060 And we would be remiss if we didn't check in with Julia Roberts, who prior to the Kamala 1.00

01:15:42.040 Harris campaign had done a relatively good job of staying apolitical. 1.00

01:15:46.320 But like her pal George Clooney, she just couldn't keep it under wraps anymore.

01:15:51.540 she got to her late 50s Glenn and she said, let's do this thing. Here she is at this pathetic little 0.99

01:15:57.540 rally. It's at 29. Renee Nicole Good is not a symbol. She is an American woman, a queer woman 0.99

01:16:06.540 who is doing the very best she could do to be good in an unjust world. Yeah. And I am honored

01:16:15.880 to celebrate her life

01:16:17.160 and her legacy tonight

01:16:18.420 because the life she gave

01:16:19.920 is our responsibility

01:16:22.280 to carry.

01:16:32.020 Okay.

01:16:33.780 Remember when she did the ad

01:16:35.480 for Kamala

01:16:36.760 encouraging Trump voters,

01:16:38.320 female Trump voters 0.71

01:16:39.180 to go into the voting booth 1.00

01:16:40.460 and disobey their husbands 0.99

01:16:42.680 once they got behind the curtain? 0.95

01:16:45.040 that was her big contribution. How'd that work out? This is not going to work out any better.

01:16:49.960 But why? Why must it? Why? Why can't? Why didn't she get the same memo that Jennifer Lawrence got

01:16:54.620 when who came out and said, I'm kind of done doing that. I just want people to watch my art

01:16:59.720 and I'll express myself through my art and they can take it or leave it.

01:17:03.900 Well, this is the thing, like, historically, if you look at Western artists and the idea of art

01:17:10.580 in western culture it always has been political but not in this like direct you know go and vote

01:17:17.580 for this candidate or i'm gonna represent these very you know banal political ideas that everybody

01:17:23.180 else i i speak to and that that is near me also represents because i want to be part of the crowd

01:17:27.780 part of the idea of art is to question taboos to test new ideas to kind of poke at orthodoxy that

01:17:33.960 there is a politicized aspect to art not always but but often even you know going back to renaissance

01:17:38.960 art. I mean, a lot of that had political themes to it. And these people have convinced themselves

01:17:43.920 because they refer to themselves as artists, even though they're just like good looking studio tools

01:17:47.900 that they too play a similar role in society, even though they have nothing of actual value

01:17:53.340 or interest to offer. And that's why I say what offends me are not people who are in like the

01:17:58.480 creative world wanting to express ideas that affect the world. Like I said, I think that's

01:18:02.920 a normal part of art. What offends me about it is they're so empty and vapid about it. It's pure

01:18:08.320 just hollywood group think they all repeat what each other says there's no bravery to it there's

01:18:14.580 no courage to it there's no impact and i think that's the reason why and one of the only thing

01:18:18.480 good things that have come out of all of this is they all do have to realize that they have

01:18:22.540 basically become insecure inconsequential because they did everything possible remember going back

01:18:26.760 to that 2016 mega cringe fight video that they did with all those celebrities singing that fight

01:18:33.060 song about Hillary Clinton they've just gotten destroyed and humiliated because no one pays

01:18:38.560 attention to them I remember people really thinking Taylor Swift's announcement endorsement

01:18:43.180 or that brat woman's endorsement of Kamala was going to swing the election it didn't swing a

01:18:47.720 single vote because nobody cares not because people don't care about what artists think but

01:18:51.720 because these people are an artist they're just banalities they're just people craving public

01:18:56.660 attention and applause, and that will never have any power. Truly, who cares what Julia Roberts 0.96

01:19:04.580 thinks about politics? Now, if Julia Roberts is going to stand up in front of some large group 1.00

01:19:08.960 in New York and tell us what it was like to act across from Richard Gere and Pretty Woman, 0.71

01:19:13.440 I'm interested. Go on. What was that like? You were great in that. Great. Let's do that.

01:19:20.340 But no one wants to hear me talk about what it's like to be an actress and how one prepares for

01:19:25.840 one's roles. And no one wants to hear her talk about politics or the news at all. We saw her.

01:19:33.580 She went on with Oprah during that fake tele town hall, whatever she did that she charged the

01:19:39.160 campaign a million dollars for in your life as a journalist. I guarantee Glenn Greenwald has never

01:19:45.540 charged the interview subject for the set Glenn had to set up in order to go do the interview.

01:19:52.800 that's not the way it works only a grifter would do such a thing um but at that farcical event

01:19:59.520 julia roberts had thoughts there too remember this watch i want people to say oh you're american

01:20:07.260 and not oh how's it going over there you know yes that so i want to get back to that space

01:20:16.140 exactly oh go ahead glenn but but but just that alone do you see what she's saying there she's

01:20:21.700 When I go to Paris and I'm invited to these, you know, elite royal dinners in Scandinavia, I want the people next to me to feel like being an American is a good thing instead of looking down their nose at me because Donald Trump is the president.

01:20:39.960 I want them to see someone more European.

01:20:42.260 Like, is this even in the same universe as what most Americans think?

01:20:47.540 And this is what gets me about, you know, Julia Roberts has been this huge Hollywood star making gigantic sums of money for decades. 0.50

01:20:55.180 Obviously, that distorts her perception that removes her from ordinary life.

01:20:59.120 These people have no understanding, like no humility at all that the way they speak, the concerns that they have are so radically different from the people on whose behalf they think they're speaking or who they're influencing.

01:21:10.880 that it's like this incredible mismatch even just listening to her it sounds she doesn't speak like

01:21:15.940 anybody that you typically speak to and i think this is the breach that they're incapable of

01:21:21.500 recognizing it's really bizarre to watch i mean that is what she's saying when i go to when i go

01:21:26.560 to brussels you know i used to be applauded when obama was president because people loved america

01:21:32.060 and now in europe they think that we're gross and i want to get back to you know having british and

01:21:36.920 European royalty look at us again in a positive light as though that's even anywhere near the list

01:21:43.860 of concerns of ordinary voters. Yes, like we're real working class voters who can't pay their

01:21:50.540 mortgage or their grocery bills. And she thought that they'd be listening to her on how she really

01:21:55.620 wants people to admire her as an American and to be universally beloved. And she doesn't like this

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01:24:46.460 so i'm very happy that the knicks won i've lived in manhattan i've lived in new york state for most

01:24:56.200 of my life and i lived in manhattan for 17 years recently and so they never win they never win the

01:25:01.860 championship i know enough about sports to know the knicks always disappoint their fans in the end

01:25:05.980 and um no one really thought that they were going to pull it out but then that one guy was amazing

01:25:12.120 What's his name? He was so good. He was incredible. Hold on. Jalen Brunson. He was the game.

01:25:21.300 When the championship was over, they put on the screen, Jalen Brunson points, 35 or 45. Everyone

01:25:27.840 else, 49. Like the entire rest of the team had scored like one or two baskets more than he did

01:25:34.320 by himself. And he's only 6'2", which is kind of short by NBA standards and going up against,

01:25:40.460 you know, Wemba Yama, who's seven foot six. It was no problem for him. He was just a crusher. So

01:25:46.220 go Knicks. All right. But there's a couple of things we got to discuss. We got to discuss

01:25:50.900 the absurd New York people who rioted and burned school buses and stabbed people and

01:25:57.940 hurt 10 cops as a, quote, celebration. Just fucking derelicts. I'm sorry. It happens every 1.00

01:26:05.720 time. Philly does it, too, because Doug likes the eagle. So we see it. What's wrong with these

01:26:10.100 people. But let's table that now. Let's go up to a higher price point on the incomes and discuss

01:26:16.820 Ben Stiller and Hank Azaria. So Ben Stiller was one of the ones who you kept seeing in the front

01:26:24.180 row, celebrity row there. It was like Timothee Chalamet, Larry David, David Zaslav. Jerry

01:26:32.600 Seinfeld. Zaslav is not a celebrity. He's with like the more owner's crews, but whatever. Yeah.

01:26:36.920 Jerry Seinfeld, Taylor Swift was there on the Miracle at MSG night.

01:26:43.880 And as I mentioned, Ben Stiller was there.

01:26:45.800 So Ben Stiller was given an interview after the fact to those guys who do the halftime show,

01:26:49.440 like Shaq and Charles Barkley and so on.

01:26:53.380 And there was a bit of a reveal on how the celebs get those floor seats or like second row, whatever.

01:27:02.320 Listen here.

01:27:03.280 Where they are.

01:27:03.760 Hey, Ben, you're not a Fairweather fan.

01:27:06.920 Because we, number one, thank you for the love you show on our show all these years.

01:27:12.440 But you're like a real fan.

01:27:13.720 Like a lot of these other freeloaders, they're just showing up because the Knicks are doing good.

01:27:17.360 How long have you actually been a season ticket holder?

01:27:20.420 I don't have a season ticket.

01:27:22.040 I just get the tickets.

01:27:24.520 The celebrity, they give us the tickets.

01:27:27.160 Ben, stop lying.

01:27:27.980 I don't think I could afford the Knicks season ticket front row.

01:27:31.460 No, I'm lucky.

01:27:32.420 No, I'm just, I think it's because I've been coming for so long, you know, that they feel

01:27:36.700 what i'm a loyal fan our family's been coming forever so i'm lucky enough to get that okay so

01:27:43.400 he doesn't have season tickets and claims he can't afford season tickets which is a lie ben

01:27:49.900 stiller can absolutely afford season tickets to the knicks i know a doctor friend of mine who has

01:27:55.540 them he's got more than that guy does in 2016 he snapped up a four-bedroom condo for 15 million

01:28:01.440 in a luxury building in the West Village of New York.

01:28:04.300 His main residence is a 33-acre spread,

01:28:07.540 reportedly just north of Manhattan in Chappaqua.

01:28:10.260 He also owns, reportedly, a 14-acre pad in Hawaii.

01:28:17.300 And he can afford it.

01:28:19.460 But I didn't realize that these celebrities are getting it.

01:28:23.500 Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner, gifts it to them.

01:28:27.200 And like Anna Wintour over at the Met Gala,

01:28:30.120 he sprinkles his little fairy dust on the ones he thinks i guess i don't know people want to see

01:28:36.420 there so that's bad enough glenn that's bad enough right because god forbid they have like a contest

01:28:43.880 where they give it to like the new yorker who's most down and out had the roughest year lost his

01:28:51.080 job in this difficult economy or in mom donnie's hideous new york god forbid they give it to like

01:28:58.360 the make-a-wish kid. No, we got to look at Taylor Swift there, fake, excited over the

01:29:03.900 miracle. With her nitwit friend, she looked like an idiot. Okay. Then enter Hank Azaria, 1.00

01:29:11.980 who starts off strong. I'm with him. He starts ripping on Taylor. He's like, I've had it with

01:29:16.540 this woman. I had to watch her at all the football games. And now she's got to be at

01:29:20.780 the basketball games too. Like I'm fucking sick of her. Yes, Hank, you speak for us all. 1.00

01:29:25.520 But then started bitching about his free seats because they were in a suite that's high up at Madison Square Garden and not down at the camera level there.

01:29:41.280 There he is in a seat. It's high up. I agree. But you're there. You're there.

01:29:45.340 People around you outside of your suite, civilians had to pay a minimum of six to seven grand for the worst nosebleed in the house.

01:29:55.020 and his came for free and he's still bitching listen here to what he said about those seats

01:30:01.320 to the dan libertard show i tell you the one that bothered me was taylor swift why come on 0.98

01:30:07.780 she just got here she's the hugest thing in the world but we had to sit with her all through the

01:30:12.640 nfl and now she's at the garden come on wow she gets four seats her three friends it's total

01:30:18.540 bandwagon like hank has been there since the 70s he's the voice actor for a generation like this is

01:30:26.040 the man continues to be someone who stars in movies for the better part of 35 40 years not

01:30:32.620 that i question why she'd get the seat i'm just tired of the whole taylor she did have three seats

01:30:38.240 i got the guest list in front of me right now ridiculous she had three seats okay but he went

01:30:43.460 on to say, uh, okay. You don't know from the garden if you're going to get in until the day

01:30:51.300 of the game. If you're Ben Stiller or Tracy Morgan, you know, I think Spike Lee actually

01:30:55.460 pays for his tickets, he says, but they don't let you know until day of because there's such

01:31:00.300 high demand. After not making the cut for complimentary tickets to game three,

01:31:05.800 the, um, the actor said he was able to get in free to game four. That was the miracle at MSG

01:31:12.960 game. However, Hank Azaria thought it was horrible, that's in quotes, that his seats

01:31:19.700 were in the arena's Cisco Suites, located within the upper bowl of the horror. I know I'm not

01:31:27.340 courtside, he said, but I think MSG has got me good seats. But we're way up in what they call

01:31:33.520 the Cisco Suites, which are like the ceiling, he recalled, noting that other stars like Questlove,

01:31:39.220 rain wilson edward burns jeremy strong aaron judge and christy turlington were also in the

01:31:44.640 same area like there's so many folks who want in that they've stuck us all up in the rafters

01:31:52.460 i'm sorry but this too is so out of touch glenn yeah i mean i get why sports leagues want to have

01:32:02.380 celebrities at their events because it gives it for some people like a kind of cachet but it only

01:32:09.840 really works if the people are actually interested you know like jack nicholson famously was like

01:32:14.120 obsessed with the la lakers so it made sense for the la lakers to want him always at the game

01:32:18.300 huge star you know like on the on at court side uh i guess like some new york like spike lee always

01:32:25.400 at the new york knicks games when they're winning they're losing whatever like a real fan i like

01:32:29.420 the sport i know and watch most is tennis and there's like huge stars like from the nba and

01:32:33.780 movie stars who love tennis travel the world like really watching the matches i get why they're

01:32:38.280 promoted but like if you're gonna be that and especially if you're gonna get these free tickets

01:32:44.460 for an event you know where new yorkers and there's you know obviously millions of them

01:32:50.460 who have lived and died with the with the new york knicks forever i lived in new york 15 years

01:32:54.400 when they're like the era of Patrick Ewing and like really good teams, John Starks, like never

01:32:59.360 won the championship. These people have been waiting for these for forever. There, a lot of

01:33:04.400 them are priced out. And then to have these celebrities who don't even seem like the real

01:33:08.040 fans get in and get in free and get all these perks, like those suites have tons of perks.

01:33:13.300 It's not just like sitting in any old seat high up. It's, you know, like a suite, then go on and

01:33:18.660 complain that their seats weren't as good as they, as they, this is why there's so much resentment

01:33:23.780 toward the celebrity class we talked about this the last time on zone like in order to have this

01:33:28.220 like mystique of celebrity that actually is appealing there needs to be a mystique to it

01:33:32.840 like you have to have something opaque about yourself you don't want to show yourself because

01:33:37.020 when you show yourself you're showing who you are like an ordinary guy with all the warts of

01:33:41.820 everybody else but getting all these undue privileges and that's what creates resentment

01:33:46.140 and these people seem not to realize it they're so immersed in this in this detached culture that

01:33:51.800 they don't understand any longer what they sound like to people it if i were their agent i would

01:33:56.840 be like just just shut up always unless you have a script in front of you or some written prepared

01:34:00.800 speech and otherwise just go do your movies go do your tv collect your huge paycheck and go on a 0.98

01:34:06.560 boat and just don't let people know anything else about you yes i i they what they should have done

01:34:12.860 was say uh here's my seat daniel penny here you go or cop patrolling the beat you you want a good

01:34:20.240 seat they'd kill to be able to sit in this or like a single mother gets to bring her kid you

01:34:25.760 know who would never otherwise afford it yeah like that would actually be something and not

01:34:29.720 even for pr like you i personally would feel better about it than you know just somebody who's

01:34:34.720 every privilege just taking it because you can even though it doesn't give you like find somebody

01:34:40.140 who would actually see the experience as this once in a lifetime you know opportunity and i

01:34:46.420 guess they just don't think that way oh it's disgusting like what a missed opportunity by

01:34:52.520 Hank Azaria to say like I was so thrilled to be there like all I was I'm so grateful to the garden

01:34:57.440 for making sure I had a seat that was so generous of them like I saw my Knicks win it's like I have

01:35:03.560 nothing but blessings I'm I'm very very grateful instead of like we were up in the nosebleeds with

01:35:09.040 Christy Turlington oh my god you you started off strong and then you fell apart Hank Azaria and

01:35:14.280 he's not the voice of a generation either it's like if you watch the simpsons you enjoyed his

01:35:18.540 work otherwise most people don't even know who hank azari is i'm sorry and ben stiller i mean i

01:35:23.180 give him credit for like at least admitting like he he's charles barkley um stepped in it right

01:35:29.700 because it was like you're a real next fan you have season tickets yeah and he's like no actually

01:35:34.380 that's not true they just gave these to me i really have no idea why but credit to him for

01:35:40.460 admitting it and I have to do something that pains me, but I must do it. There were all these Knicks

01:35:46.760 fans on the streets of New York watching on like jumbotrons that were up and they were packed in

01:35:52.620 like sardines and it added a lot to watch their reaction when the Knicks won. It was, that's

01:35:56.820 exactly what you wanted to see was their reaction and how happy they were. And in smushed in with

01:36:02.760 the crowd, I did see Jon Stewart and I'm pretty sure this is where he was. Correct me if I'm

01:36:10.300 wrong. I'm sure the audience will, but I saw him and he was standing out there outside with a

01:36:16.100 baseball hat on with the everyman. And I have to say, I admired it. Like he didn't go inside the

01:36:24.960 garden. Jon Stewart absolutely could have afforded a $6,000 ticket or more. You know, some of the

01:36:29.840 other ones were tens of thousands and he chose to spend it that way. And I have to say, I like it

01:36:34.860 when people do that. And he, he didn't look to go on. He wasn't Megan Markle, like making sure he

01:36:39.300 got in front of the camera. Here I am with the everyman. He was just there watching the game

01:36:42.940 and like cheering and somebody got him from the side. And I was like, you know what? Good on you,

01:36:46.680 man. Yeah. And, you know, I'm sure you've had these experiences too in New York. And I definitely

01:36:52.920 did too. Like when I lived there, I love New York. Of course, extremely frustrating people

01:36:56.400 who don't live there look at it and say, why would anyone want to live there with all the

01:36:59.920 obvious problems that it has? But there are certain kinds of experiences because of the

01:37:05.260 diversity in new york and i don't mean diversity in like a dei way i mean like natural diversity of

01:37:09.760 so many different kinds of people from so many walks of life who are almost forced into finding

01:37:14.880 this common humanity and common ground and common cause where those divisions actually don't matter

01:37:19.600 new york has a unique capability to bring people together from like the richest to the poorest to

01:37:24.660 every kind of different religion and background in a way that really is inspiring and i think

01:37:29.860 having this city that's so filled with every different kind of person unite around the

01:37:34.620 sporting event you know there is something very encouraging about humanity's ability to do that

01:37:39.480 and there aren't many cities in america that produce that like new york can and i think that's

01:37:43.000 one of the reasons why this resonated so much yes totally um a word on jaylen brunson before we

01:37:50.620 leave the knicks after game four he was in such demand because that was the miracle at msd it

01:37:57.880 really was a miracle they were down 30 plus points and somehow they turned it you know it was like

01:38:02.440 before you knew it, they were down only 15 points, which they were again in the final.

01:38:06.340 It was like, oh my God, the stress for, you know, Knicks fans. And really, truly, they deserve to

01:38:11.980 win it. Cause it's like the Spurs, if you can't win a game when you're 30 points up or in the

01:38:15.760 finals, 15 points up and hold onto that lead in a game of that consequence, I mean, with all due

01:38:20.080 respect, then you should expect to lose. So good for him. He was the hero of that game too.

01:38:25.320 And he came out the night after game four. Um, and everybody wanted to hear his reaction.

01:38:32.440 And what did you think of the game?

01:38:33.480 And before he spoke about the game at all, he said this about a make-a-wish kid that he'd been connected to. 0.74

01:38:42.220 Oh, Sot24.

01:38:46.920 Real quick before we get started.

01:38:52.380 Just want to say hearts and my thoughts and prayers are with a friend of mine I got to meet and talk to last week.

01:39:02.440 Jonathan from North Carolina

01:39:03.960 from the Make-A-Wish Foundation

01:39:07.040 and the Gardner and Jeans Foundation.

01:39:10.880 He had a heart condition

01:39:12.080 and it was just

01:39:14.380 asking me to

01:39:15.400 just kind of take a video and reach out to him, but

01:39:18.480 something in my mind told me

01:39:20.300 just to try and get him on FaceTime

01:39:22.420 and get the chat with him, and I was

01:39:24.340 got the pleasure to do so.

01:39:27.520 And

01:39:27.620 it was a quick call,

01:39:30.320 but it was well worth it.

01:39:33.780 And I just want to say my thoughts and prayers

01:39:35.560 were for him and his family,

01:39:37.300 just finding out some news about him today.

01:39:39.520 So, my God rest his soul.

01:39:44.660 Obviously, the little boy died.

01:39:48.380 I don't know.

01:39:49.080 We haven't been able to find anything out about this, Jonathan,

01:39:51.700 but clearly the last line suggests that he died.

01:39:54.920 And good for him, right?

01:39:58.640 I've been on the receiving end of that.

01:40:00.080 Will you do this thing? Will you make a phone call or will you send a note? And if you actually do, if you can spare the time to actually call and speak with the person live, it's so meaningful if they actually are your fan. And he did it. And it was one of the little boy's last moments, Glenn. It just restores your faith in humanity. Like athletes, so often there are bad stories about our famous people. And here's a great one. I love this guy.

01:40:25.280 well yeah and it's what we were talking about before too with like how you have the opportunity

01:40:29.700 if you have these kind of privileges to instead of just like gobbling them all up for yourself

01:40:35.280 and getting as much attention you know you can do so many things that obviously are are beneficial

01:40:41.300 to the people who you're helping but obviously but also are so beneficial to you like look at how

01:40:47.180 the like look at like this is a guy at the height of like his his career right he's at the pinnacle

01:40:52.920 of the success the star of this incredibly uh significant sporting event where all eyes are

01:40:59.020 focused on him in the most admirable way and clearly the emotions he had that he felt compelled

01:41:03.800 to share in like the most unrehearsed genuine from the heart way you could just tell like his

01:41:08.320 soul was invested in it probably gave to him at least as much as if not more than whatever other

01:41:15.280 benefits he's getting from having been the star of the series helped the knicks win the first

01:41:19.300 championship at the center of the world media capital which is new york and so many people

01:41:24.420 deprive themselves of that kind of profound human experience because the benefits aren't obvious

01:41:29.780 it takes emotional investment and just to see somebody in that moment focused on that instead

01:41:35.420 of themselves which you know again this is like an extremely important moment for him financially

01:41:41.220 and reputationally and every other way for a sport to which he's devoted his life to be able

01:41:45.440 to have the presence of mind to speak in that manner so powerfully and connected about someone

01:41:51.660 who he did not really know that well until the week before, but was so affected by. Yeah. Like

01:41:56.400 you said, it does kind of remind you that human beings are capable of great things.

01:42:01.420 And that gave me the chills when you were talking about him and he was voted MVP of the finals. Of

01:42:07.580 course he very clearly was. So definitely has a new fan in me, even though I don't totally know

01:42:14.140 his name yet by heart, but I'm going to remember it. You'll get there. I'm definitely going to

01:42:17.880 remember it. But unlike these other people, I'm not a poser. I will tell you the truth about where

01:42:21.500 I stand when it comes to sports. I'm not going to lie. I think J-Lo is a poser. She posted this

01:42:26.880 video, Glenn, and Steve Krakauer, our executive producer, cracks me up on our producer text

01:42:31.840 sometimes. He just sent it out with the word relatable. Watch this.

01:42:44.140 It's her in what's clearly a multi-million dollar home.

01:42:48.660 This huge TV.

01:42:50.380 Oh, my God.

01:42:52.160 Stuff like.

01:42:53.600 Oh, my God.

01:42:54.680 I can't even explain the luxury we're looking at.

01:42:57.080 The fireplace, the windows, floor to ceiling.

01:43:00.440 She's dressed up.

01:43:01.800 Oh, my God.

01:43:02.880 Oh, my God.

01:43:04.200 Look at.

01:43:04.640 Oh, my God.

01:43:05.140 I'm just trying.

01:43:06.440 Oh, my God.

01:43:07.240 We're going to call everybody.

01:43:08.520 Okay.

01:43:08.840 Everybody call everybody.

01:43:10.560 Okay.

01:43:11.700 Okay.

01:43:11.980 because, Glenn, who doesn't have someone filming them

01:43:15.980 in order to post it on social media

01:43:18.840 when something wonderful happens?

01:43:20.340 That's the point.

01:43:21.380 It's like she's acting as though

01:43:23.080 this was like some spontaneous, uncontrollable,

01:43:26.000 emotional ecstasy, and yet she has what I'm sure

01:43:28.760 is a professional social media person

01:43:31.220 who probably was instructed to make it seem like

01:43:34.300 it wasn't as professional as it was,

01:43:36.240 even though it's framed so perfectly

01:43:37.900 to show the beauty of her house.

01:43:39.540 She's dressed up as well.

01:43:40.820 like who watches you know like a new york in their living room and like dolce and gabbana or

01:43:46.360 whatever a prada whatever it is that she's wearing with her hair all done and you know it also like 1.00

01:43:51.880 she she is the world's biggest poser she just did that subway interview where she was like if you 1.00

01:43:57.480 weren't born in new york you're not a real new yorker remember she had that super cringy clip 0.94

01:44:01.280 where she talked about going to the bodega and she was like got the orange juice if you know you know

01:44:05.360 and everyone who is actual new yorker was like i don't have any idea what you're talking about

01:44:09.040 nobody knew she was acting like it was some secret thing that only real new yorkers know that nobody

01:44:13.120 actually ever heard of and she is just the biggest farce i mean that was sad to watch i hadn't seen 0.72

01:44:18.800 that until just now no it was pathetic i'm honestly like she's definitely giving megan

01:44:24.460 markle vibes too like oh i just gotta happen i just happen to be on camera as you know my team

01:44:29.880 won the in that case i think it was the world series her husband prince harry was there he

01:44:34.800 showed up at the championship game uh like with adam silver the the commissioner of the nba no

01:44:43.240 no wife and apparently the only friend he brought was a guy a military guy from um i don't know if

01:44:50.400 it was his invictus games or what he was but like he has no friends you never see prince harry with

01:44:55.260 like and there he is with his buddies from the military or there he is from his buddies from

01:44:59.760 eaten or like some friends that that live by in montecito no friends not like me and glenn

01:45:06.320 greenwald friends for many years and i'd go to any finals with you glenn nosebleeds or not let's go

01:45:12.620 and we won't complain about where we're sitting either but we will need somebody who's like

01:45:16.980 straight and like into sports to explain to us what's going on

01:45:20.700 well there's no shortage of those people we can find them see you soon bye

01:45:27.880 Thanks for being here.

01:45:28.620 We're back tomorrow with J.D. Vance.

01:45:31.760 And you'll see who the surprise guest is in the first hour. 1.00

01:45:35.640 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - June 15, 2026

Meltdown Over Patriotic UFC at White House, with Glenn Greenwald, and Justin Baldoni's Attorney Bryan Freedman Gives Exclusive Details of Settlement ｜ Ep. 1339

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