The Megyn Kelly Show - Michelle Obama's New White House Complaints, and ＂Blonde Origin＂ Premieres, with Mike Rowe and the MK Media Hosts

00:00:00.560 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:11.920 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.

00:00:16.360 It's been a very busy week here at the show, down in D.C. for my exclusive Tulsi Gabbard sit-down on Wednesday.

00:00:23.180 Then in New York City with Dave Portnoy for the full show yesterday.

00:00:26.220 So we have planned a little fun for you today to close out the week.

00:00:30.880 We're going to have Mike Rowe joining us in just a bit.

00:00:33.260 But before we get to him, we are going to bring you the full Blonde Origin world premiere.

00:00:41.320 And then we will have on all the stars of the show right after, including Maureen Callahan, Mark Halperin, Link Lauren, and my friend and hairstylist Sarah Clemente.

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00:02:16.700 Without further ado, the world premiere of Blonde Origin.

00:02:23.340 Lift up.

00:02:24.380 Please don't call it a ride.

00:02:26.100 When zero gravity left some with zero clue.

00:02:30.440 Taking up space!

00:02:32.420 Have you been?

00:02:33.640 Have you been?

00:02:36.880 Three women were brave enough to answer the call.

00:02:41.220 It is not a ride.

00:02:42.440 It's a mission.

00:02:44.280 This is special coverage of Blonde Origin.

00:02:49.100 Zero gravity.

00:02:50.680 Zero clue.

00:02:52.560 Here are your hosts.

00:02:54.140 Mark Halperin and Link Lauren.

00:02:58.480 You're looking live, not at Lambeau Field, but at LaGuardia Airport.

00:03:01.920 It is a beautiful day to make history a beautiful day to defy gravity.

00:03:07.180 Link, welcome into our coverage.

00:03:08.740 Glad to have you.

00:03:09.300 You're a veteran of these space launches.

00:03:11.080 How do you see today?

00:03:11.880 You know, Mark, it's great to be with you.

00:03:13.780 I just spoke to a source in Connecticut that said Meghan's husband, Douglas Brunt, just took

00:03:17.780 out a massive life insurance policy on her this morning, but I'm sure that is not suspicious

00:03:22.080 whatsoever.

00:03:22.940 What could possibly go wrong?

00:03:25.500 Link, I can't help but reflect on the great astronauts in American history.

00:03:29.260 Buzz Aldrin, John Glenn are our three heroes today, likely to enter the pantheon of greatest

00:03:34.760 ever.

00:03:35.060 You know, I can't tell if Buzz Aldrin would be proud of these women or if he'd be trying

00:03:39.440 to slip a mickey in their drinks at the bar, but nonetheless, they are really opening doors,

00:03:44.120 Mark.

00:03:44.740 Link, let's meet our three brave astronauts today.

00:03:48.080 The crew made up of three first-timers, brave souls who are going where no one has gone

00:03:53.680 before, or not very many people have gone before.

00:03:55.740 Meghan Kelly, of course, she's a journalist, an attorney, political commentator, and of course,

00:04:00.280 a successful host on a program that appears on Sirius XM and on YouTube, joining Megan

00:04:06.320 for this historic mission, Maureen Callahan, columnist for the Daily Mail, and the host

00:04:11.680 of the NERV podcast on the Megan Kelly Network, and finally, Sarah Clemente.

00:04:16.100 She's a hairstylist, one of Megan's close friends, her number one priority today, Link, making

00:04:21.380 sure that everyone's hair looks absolutely flawless, even at zero G.

00:04:27.500 Absolutely, Mark.

00:04:28.300 It doesn't really matter what you're doing, as long as you look great doing it.

00:04:32.520 These women could be on the cover of Vogue tomorrow, and I hope they are for the scientific

00:04:36.280 feat going up into zero gravity.

00:04:38.760 Yeah, for some of these first-time space travelers, Link, this would be as tough as Pete Davidson

00:04:44.400 at a Kardashian family reunion.

00:04:46.440 What are the challenges they're facing today?

00:04:49.240 Well, I think these women are going to prove once and for all that silicone, Botox, Juvederm,

00:04:54.180 hair extensions can survive in zero gravity.

00:04:56.760 This is a scientific feat, a scientific miracle.

00:04:59.980 This is going to be amazing, Mark.

00:05:01.700 Okay, here we go.

00:05:02.780 The nation, indeed Link, the world is watching.

00:05:05.680 What kind of pressure are these young women on?

00:05:08.380 These women are under immense pressure.

00:05:10.700 They are up there with Buzz Aldrin and other space travelers who have paved the way for

00:05:14.820 them before, Mark.

00:05:16.460 You know, Mark, what I think is going through these women's heads is that they are opening

00:05:19.880 doors for women.

00:05:21.020 These three women are proving once and for all, there's nothing a woman can't do that

00:05:24.800 a man can, as long as it's for a few minutes and they don't have to operate any heavy machinery.

00:05:29.660 These women have worked incredibly hard.

00:05:32.180 The athletic prowess of these three women is unmatched by anybody I've seen before, Mark.

00:05:37.180 Here they are at one of the great historic space sites in the world, LaGuardia Airport,

00:05:43.340 walking to what is their date with destiny.

00:05:46.620 On a scale of one to ten, these women are at an 11 right now.

00:05:49.640 Anna Wintour from Vogue would be incredibly proud of these women.

00:05:52.200 They look incredible, Mark.

00:05:56.400 Mission Control says they're cleared for takeoff.

00:05:59.260 This could not be more exciting.

00:06:00.580 Our crew's working in what's called a modified Boeing 727.

00:06:10.380 It's GeForce One.

00:06:12.100 Great technology inside GeForce One.

00:06:14.160 It uses special hydraulics, allows for maneuvers to achieve zero gravity.

00:06:19.540 Mark, I would never attempt this in my wildest dreams.

00:06:22.600 Now, like these three are comrades and colleagues, but they're also, they've got a competitive streak,

00:06:27.320 let's be honest.

00:06:27.940 When you look at them, who's got the best as the space correspondent Lady Gaga would say,

00:06:32.300 p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-poker fits.

00:06:35.440 I think Miss Megyn Kelly herself looks like she is really up to the challenge.

00:06:39.560 She's got her zipper down.

00:06:40.840 She's got her stylish boots on.

00:06:42.480 She's got her hair perfectly clothed.

00:06:44.380 I think Megyn Kelly is in it to win it today, Mark.

00:06:47.400 You ready for your ride?

00:06:48.620 Please don't call it a ride.

00:06:50.680 That's a sexist thing to do.

00:06:52.220 When men are on board one of these crafts, one of these vessels, no one ever calls it a ride.

00:06:56.920 Tens of millions watching us live around the world, and some of the more famous people

00:07:02.460 in this country have gathered to experience history in the making.

00:07:06.860 And look, oh no, oh yes, Lady Oprah in the house.

00:07:11.980 You know, we can't tell if Oprah is crying tears of joy or if she's crying because she's

00:07:15.820 not the center of attention for once.

00:07:17.800 Not clear why Oprah's weepy, but this is a dramatic and emotional moment, I think, for

00:07:23.160 many of us.

00:07:29.540 And now let's watch as the women experience lunar gravity for the very first time.

00:07:35.580 It's getting quiet.

00:07:36.720 Whoa!

00:07:36.940 Whoa!

00:07:38.880 Oh my God!

00:07:40.840 Oh!

00:07:50.760 Stand up!

00:07:52.200 Stand up!

00:07:54.300 Oh my God!

00:07:57.460 Link, according to the Encyclopedia Britannica, or maybe I saw it on Twitter, most of the moon

00:08:02.260 landings have been faked.

00:08:03.720 This, though, seems all too real.

00:08:05.400 Mark, this is absolutely 100% authentic.

00:08:09.160 Whoa, are my eyelashes still on?

00:08:12.260 Is my silicone okay?

00:08:16.540 Is my Botox still between the eyes?

00:08:18.780 Oh, God.

00:08:20.120 I think I never saw John Glenn fix his eyelashes.

00:08:22.620 This is a new frontier, a final frontier, if you will.

00:08:26.200 Well, Mark, beauty is incredibly important,

00:08:28.680 and these three women are proving that silicone filler, Botox,

00:08:32.620 fake eyelashes, hair extensions can survive and thrive in zero gravity.

00:08:40.060 Well, this is exciting.

00:08:43.080 Now the women are back to experience true weightlessness

00:08:45.720 for the very first time.

00:08:47.600 Let's look.

00:08:49.040 It's happening.

00:08:50.260 Pushing over!

00:08:52.180 Zero four!

00:08:53.200 Whoa!

00:08:54.280 Whoa!

00:08:55.460 Whoa!

00:08:56.380 Zero four!

00:08:57.660 Oh, my God!

00:08:59.580 Oh, my God!

00:09:04.900 Yes!

00:09:05.420 Oh, my God!

00:09:13.540 Oh, my God!

00:09:18.380 Link, in spaces and sports, records are made to be broken.

00:09:22.040 I'm told our heroes today have shattered the mark

00:09:24.520 set by the gals from Blue Origin.

00:09:27.660 Tell us what they've done.

00:09:28.500 Mark, these women have spent twice as much time

00:09:31.500 in weightlessness than any of the women

00:09:33.400 on that ridiculous 11-minute Blue Origin ride.

00:09:37.280 Back here on Earth, sales of Ozympic are plummeting

00:09:40.860 because women have found a way to be weightless

00:09:42.680 without any GLP-1 drugs, Mark.

00:09:44.820 This is incredible.

00:09:46.160 It's happening.

00:09:46.940 It's happening.

00:09:47.620 Oh, my God!

00:09:48.620 Oh, my God!

00:09:49.620 Take it from space!

00:09:52.620 It's not a ride.

00:09:54.620 It's not a ride.

00:09:55.620 It's not a ride.

00:09:56.620 Link, like all the events in the world today,

00:09:58.620 social media paying close attention to our heroes.

00:10:02.620 Here's one tweet I'll read to you.

00:10:03.620 This is from Rx4245.

00:10:04.620 It says, Blue Origin, witless.

00:10:05.620 Blonde Origin, weightless.

00:10:09.620 We knew your expectations of us were high,

00:10:11.620 and we exceeded them!

00:10:12.620 We exceeded them!

00:10:14.620 It's the whole world.

00:10:16.620 I'm like, it's the whole world!

00:10:18.620 Big down!

00:10:19.640 Woo!

00:10:20.800 Woo-hoo!

00:10:21.620 Straightweight, straightweight!

00:10:23.620 No!

00:10:24.620 ってck£

00:10:25.620 oh, lord oh!

00:10:27.620 You gonna look at it, you gonna do all of the go,

00:10:28.620 T's beach, for two, two, six feet coming!

00:10:29.620 It's the whole world!

00:10:30.620 Oh, boy.

00:10:31.620 I think we want to do it.

00:10:32.620 It's the whole world!

00:10:33.620 Billiva

00:10:34.200 Yeah!

00:10:34.860 Woo-hoo!

00:10:37.140 Streadwick!

00:10:38.860 Streadwick!

00:10:39.860 Streadwick!

00:10:42.120 Ready to get...

00:10:43.280 oooh, no

00:10:45.120 só

00:10:45.580 Ja

00:10:46.560 Meghan Kelly going for the water.

00:10:47.060 She's going.

00:10:47.940 Nope, it's a miss.

00:10:49.740 Let's see if she tries again.

00:10:52.480 Yes.

00:10:53.760 I'm inspirational.

00:10:55.860 Megan Kelly, one for two.

00:10:57.460 Link, that gets you in the Hall of Fame if you play for the New York Yankees.

00:11:01.360 Get it right there.

00:11:03.880 Absolutely, Mark.

00:11:04.880 And as Megan Kelly said herself, she is an inspiration catching that water and zero grab.

00:11:10.720 Let's look at this again in slow motion.

00:11:12.880 Megan Kelly, thirsty as all get out.

00:11:15.580 You don't lose your taste for the drink.

00:11:17.940 Even in zero gravity.

00:11:20.320 And not only are these women thirsty for water, they're thirsty for fame, they're thirsty for attention.

00:11:24.620 But in 2025, that is perfectly acceptable, Mark.

00:11:30.460 Welcome home, brave space angels.

00:11:32.660 We knew you could do it.

00:11:34.380 I still have difficulty calling myself an astronaut.

00:11:37.080 I know, I know.

00:11:38.500 Here are heroes descending back.

00:11:41.380 They're sun-kissed and now, wait a minute.

00:11:44.040 I think I've heard of kissing the ground under such circumstances.

00:11:49.360 But this, to me, looks to be a full-on make-out session.

00:11:53.420 You know, Mark, I think these women should buy the ground a drink first.

00:11:57.000 I also know there are a lot of men who would be jealous of the ground right now.

00:12:00.300 This is a grand space tradition.

00:12:02.760 NASA has done it for years.

00:12:03.880 The names of our heroes turned right side up and upside down.

00:12:07.560 And now let's listen in for the first time back on Earth to our star heroes from space.

00:12:12.600 I think it's such a wonderful world.

00:12:16.500 Should we sing a little bit?

00:12:19.260 I don't see shades of blue, trees of green.

00:12:32.060 And I think to myself, what a wonderful world.

00:12:40.340 Here is space's top talker, Megyn Kelly.

00:12:44.220 Did I mention how proud I am of me?

00:12:47.000 You know, you tend to do that.

00:12:48.500 I forgot for one second.

00:12:49.760 But yes, yes, you are.

00:12:50.920 I know, I know.

00:12:51.500 Not just to girls and women, either.

00:12:53.380 Boys, too.

00:12:54.240 Boys and men.

00:12:55.860 They all find me very inspirational.

00:12:57.920 How was the ride?

00:12:59.760 I don't appreciate when people call it a ride.

00:13:01.760 It's not a ride.

00:13:03.000 They never say that for the other astronauts.

00:13:05.800 It's a flight.

00:13:06.600 It's a mission.

00:13:07.920 Okay?

00:13:08.160 That's what, there's nothing frivolous about what we just did.

00:13:11.960 Okay?

00:13:12.720 It was a flight.

00:13:14.420 It was, it was a mission.

00:13:16.680 And it was mission accomplished.

00:13:18.700 Well, a little bit of unhappiness there for Megyn.

00:13:21.120 Maybe not getting the respect she thinks she and her crew deserve.

00:13:24.920 You know, Mark, how dare anybody call this a ride?

00:13:28.100 This is a mission.

00:13:29.580 These women were incredible.

00:13:30.840 This is a scientific feat.

00:13:32.300 They trained.

00:13:33.200 They worked hard.

00:13:34.420 This is amazing, Mark.

00:13:35.980 You know, Mark, my producer is saying we've got Megan on the line.

00:13:39.440 Yeah.

00:13:39.800 Hi, guys.

00:13:40.440 It's MK.

00:13:41.260 Look, I don't know what's happening here, but I don't hear us being called astronauts enough.

00:13:47.040 Or at all.

00:13:48.440 You know, we did the same flight path as Alan Shepard.

00:13:53.000 Astronauts.

00:13:54.180 Astronauts.

00:13:54.860 Okay?

00:13:55.260 I'd like to hear that a bit more, please.

00:13:58.000 Guys.

00:13:59.080 You got it right there.

00:14:02.500 If you could please focus on what matters, I would really appreciate it.

00:14:06.980 I got to run.

00:14:07.780 I have some more selfies to take.

00:14:09.380 But thanks so much for your coverage.

00:14:10.960 Bye.

00:14:11.720 That was Megan Kelly.

00:14:13.140 Megan, we understand your point of view.

00:14:14.620 We reject it summarily, but we do understand.

00:14:16.960 Link, an incredible historic day.

00:14:21.860 My mind wanders to times at the beach or going to Coney Island and winning a stuffy.

00:14:27.900 But tell me your reflections.

00:14:29.760 What has this meant to you as someone who's covered space launches for, I don't know, 20 minutes?

00:14:35.140 I am just overcome with emotion.

00:14:37.640 I am incredibly proud of these three women for everything they went to in the lead up to the launch,

00:14:42.380 for surviving zero gravity and making it back down to Earth safe and sound.

00:14:46.960 This concludes our special coverage of Blonde Origin.

00:14:56.880 Are you inspired yet?

00:14:59.660 And remember, it's not a ride, damn it.

00:15:04.360 That is not a friggin' ride.

00:15:05.700 Whenever a man goes out, you have never said to an astronaut, boy, what a ride.

00:15:10.620 There was nothing frivolous about what we did.

00:15:13.280 Take him from space!

00:15:16.960 Oh, God.

00:15:24.320 It's so good.

00:15:25.840 Okay.

00:15:26.620 And now joining me, the stars of the show.

00:15:29.420 Here in studio with me, Sarah Clemente, plus the stars of MK Media, our new network,

00:15:36.180 Maureen Callahan, Mark Halperin, and Link Lauren.

00:15:39.880 Now, guys, Mark and Maureen and Link, what a launch for your podcasts, both literally and figuratively.

00:15:48.060 Mark Halperin, I never knew you were so funny, but that was hysterical.

00:15:53.380 Well done, you guys.

00:15:55.140 I just thank you.

00:15:56.180 I'm honored to participate, and I just channeled Fred Willard from Best in Show.

00:16:00.740 That was my inspiration.

00:16:01.480 A hundred percent, exactly.

00:16:03.380 So, Maureen, I haven't gotten to see—I showed it to Sarah this morning as she was doing my hair, but that was your first view of it.

00:16:10.000 What did you think?

00:16:10.620 I literally have tears coming out of my—I just—I had no idea what this was going to look like pieced together.

00:16:20.400 I think that having Mark and Link as the brave journalists covering and, quite frankly, acknowledging exactly what we did, how we did it, how brave we are, not for nothing, my updo stayed intact throughout 15 weightless parabolic arcs.

00:16:37.700 I would like some recognition for that.

00:16:39.480 I would like Gayle King to summon us to, like, a little summit for the brave souls that we are.

00:16:46.660 And I just thank God for you, too, Megan and Sarah, because, frankly, I'm phasing people out of my life who have not been.

00:16:52.840 If you haven't been, you can't talk about it.

00:16:55.380 And I really appreciate, Link, your recognizing the sacrifice that we were making and the risks from the silicone to the Botox to the Juvederm.

00:17:05.000 I mean, you knew exactly where to zero in on the great scientific experiment that was that ride.

00:17:11.600 Well, absolutely.

00:17:12.680 I also knew you guys were a little bit crazy, but you're the only people I know who would pay to go to LaGuardia willingly when you don't have to.

00:17:20.780 I don't know anybody who would just choose to go to LaGuardia on a Sunday morning unless they had to.

00:17:25.540 But, yeah, no, silicone, Botox, filler, hair extensions.

00:17:28.920 We can't have a hair emergency in space.

00:17:31.040 That would be up there with the Challenger emergency.

00:17:32.960 We can't.

00:17:33.380 We can't.

00:17:33.780 Everything has to be good.

00:17:34.580 That's right.

00:17:35.180 So we planned ahead and we brought Sarah, who was our Lauren Sanchez-inspired character.

00:17:39.840 She's not normally running around showing off her breasts.

00:17:42.160 I am not.

00:17:42.740 This was-

00:17:43.240 She looks more natural.

00:17:44.580 Yeah.

00:17:44.840 It was inspirational.

00:17:45.980 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:46.580 It was inspired by-

00:17:48.400 It was very inspired by.

00:17:49.680 Watched a lot of videos.

00:17:50.580 Did you have any hesitation when I called you and said, would you like to go to space?

00:17:54.820 How quickly did I answer?

00:17:55.920 I mean, immediately.

00:17:56.760 Yeah.

00:17:57.020 I said, I knew this was going to happen.

00:17:59.400 Yes.

00:17:59.860 Yeah.

00:18:00.240 Are we going to die?

00:18:01.680 No.

00:18:02.340 Hopefully not.

00:18:03.360 And Sarah, not only was the hairstylist in space, but also the pharmacist.

00:18:06.340 She gave me one of those Zofrans.

00:18:08.440 Is that Zofran, right?

00:18:09.520 Yeah.

00:18:09.800 Oh, yeah.

00:18:10.320 Because what we actually wrote is officially nicknamed the Vomit Comet.

00:18:14.500 Yep.

00:18:14.920 And that was the last thing we wanted to do.

00:18:17.160 We didn't see any of the Blue Origin ladies throw up, and we'd be damned if we were going

00:18:21.160 to throw up.

00:18:21.920 So we took it to Zofran, and there was some nausea on my part.

00:18:24.740 I'm not going to lie.

00:18:25.260 And we also had the-

00:18:25.940 We had the little bands.

00:18:26.920 The little bands.

00:18:27.660 I don't know what would have happened if we didn't.

00:18:30.180 I shudder to think.

00:18:31.860 Yeah.

00:18:32.620 Mark, I appreciate you referring to us properly as your brave space angels and astronauts.

00:18:38.580 Let's not forget astronauts, too.

00:18:40.880 And I also thought it was very wise of you to point out how LaGuardia really is the new

00:18:45.940 Cape Canaveral.

00:18:47.700 It is.

00:18:48.440 People think of it as kind of a crappy place where it looks like you have to go.

00:18:52.860 But for me, it's like Fenway Park or Walt Disney World is one of the great American sites.

00:19:00.960 I do want to show the audience, you know, one of the things we know about the Blue Origin

00:19:05.900 flight is that those ladies trained.

00:19:07.760 It was long, in-depth training, as the commentators who were watching their launch pointed out.

00:19:13.800 And we have some video of our training as well that we wanted to show the audience.

00:19:18.400 Here's a little bit of it.

00:19:19.780 Let's put it on the board.

00:19:20.840 Yeah, that's it.

00:19:23.140 No, no, no.

00:19:24.500 There was buckling of seatbelts.

00:19:26.720 This is not the training.

00:19:27.400 There was buckling of seatbelts.

00:19:29.680 And you know what else there was?

00:19:31.560 I mean, this is the true sacrifice.

00:19:33.480 But Maureen, Sarah, and yours truly, we were not allowed to drink the night before and the

00:19:38.560 morning of.

00:19:39.980 Why don't you tell the people, Sarah, what we had to eat?

00:19:42.100 Well, we had to eat a plain bagel, right?

00:19:45.240 Not toasted.

00:19:46.400 Right.

00:19:46.640 So it made that experience not as great as it should have been for us to eat a bagel.

00:19:52.080 But exactly.

00:19:52.780 If we're going to do it, Link, Lauren, I mean, you of all people can appreciate, we ate huge

00:19:56.740 bready carbs for this thing.

00:19:58.100 The sacrifice.

00:19:59.560 I was going to say, you guys had to eat carbs before going into space.

00:20:02.940 I'm just so happy I didn't have to go up there.

00:20:05.220 When your producer, Steve, called me and said, do you want to go to space with Megyn Kelly?

00:20:08.820 I was like, how do I get out of this?

00:20:11.200 I am the biggest baby cat.

00:20:12.940 I drive under the speed limit.

00:20:14.900 I lock my door three times a night.

00:20:16.820 I don't go home with strangers except on rare occasion.

00:20:19.580 I did not want to go up there, OK?

00:20:21.340 I would have been scared for my life.

00:20:22.740 I'm so happy you all got to go and have that experience without me.

00:20:26.080 Well, I have to say, not only did Sarah say yes immediately, but poor Maureen, who's

00:20:30.600 now been dragged into two of these things.

00:20:32.620 I mean, your acting career, Maureen, is off with a bang.

00:20:36.520 I mean, I heard you reference it on your new show, The Nerve, with Maureen Callahan.

00:20:39.280 But I mean, you're like in awards ceremony territory now.

00:20:43.560 Well, Megan, let's be fair.

00:20:44.820 I mean, I'm hearing it for both of us.

00:20:46.360 You know, we're a two-hander.

00:20:47.680 We're a team.

00:20:48.640 You know, Emmy, like I would like to be getting my SAG card imminently.

00:20:53.420 I think I deserve it.

00:20:54.520 And you know, now we've added astronaut to our resume.

00:20:57.180 I mean, what can't we do?

00:20:58.820 I ask you, what can't we do?

00:21:01.620 Nothing's coming to mind.

00:21:02.660 I mean, as Mark pointed out, did you see me get that second drop of water?

00:21:05.640 I mean, like a professional, sir.

00:21:07.820 I know, because I caught that drop of water in my eyeball.

00:21:11.600 I mean, I mean, no disrespect, but I think the answer to what can't you do would be the

00:21:15.860 G in EGOT based on the singing in the video.

00:21:20.280 Oh, deep cut.

00:21:21.800 You know what, Mark?

00:21:22.420 It was slightly off tune.

00:21:24.540 I'm just saying Grammy may be the last one you get.

00:21:27.040 I'm not saying you'll never get it.

00:21:28.820 I don't think you guys will ever be winning any Oscars.

00:21:32.100 You're way too Caucasian, OK?

00:21:34.020 If you are non-binary, you know, maybe you can do it.

00:21:37.140 Exactly right.

00:21:37.760 It's a little too white.

00:21:38.300 Parody so white.

00:21:39.500 Never, never wins the award.

00:21:41.820 I have to say, a huge shout out to our producer, Jake Whitman, who did both that and the Meghan

00:21:47.880 Markle takeoff parody that we did, who is incredibly talented, put together those AI astronaut shots

00:21:54.080 of us and got that flight.

00:21:56.720 You know, that is what our flight did.

00:21:58.120 But, um, I mean, like, I doubt somebody took actual video of our flight.

00:22:01.200 And it was the night before that you were like, Jake's got to come.

00:22:04.460 Oh, so we knew that Jake was going to produce this whole segment, but they had told us originally

00:22:08.960 at Zero Gravity that we couldn't have a photog on board because he would get sick.

00:22:13.160 They basically say only people who are very used to going up in zero G can look through

00:22:17.760 a lens and not barf.

00:22:19.320 And, uh, so they said no.

00:22:20.920 And then Jake was like, well, they said you three can go up with, um, with GoPros.

00:22:25.400 And I was like, oh, geez, we'll never survive with those GoPros.

00:22:28.300 We'll be wailing them all over each other.

00:22:29.860 I'm like, if we can bring up a GoPro, then we can bring up Jake.

00:22:33.080 And so literally the night before, I'm like, do you want to come?

00:22:36.060 He, and he too is brand new.

00:22:37.460 You guys to the MK media, uh, property.

00:22:40.600 And he was like, when, when do I show up?

00:22:43.480 Welcome aboard mission, mission accomplished.

00:22:45.960 We're all going into space together.

00:22:47.880 Um, I have to say, I think that this was an important moment for America.

00:22:53.580 I think this is the healing moment we needed Maureen and getting past the trauma of those

00:22:57.900 morons two weeks ago.

00:22:59.920 I couldn't agree with you more.

00:23:01.360 And I really, you know, to Mark's point that LaGuardia is now the equivalent of Cape Canaveral.

00:23:06.580 I think a plaque should be placed on that tarmac.

00:23:10.680 MK, me, Sarah, the contributions we have made to womankind and feminism.

00:23:16.360 And yeah, not for nothing, like keeping your glam intact, going through 15 major parabolic

00:23:22.820 arcs in which I personally slammed into the ceiling, into the walls, into the floor.

00:23:28.200 Like, yes, I defy a man to do it.

00:23:30.720 I just, I defy a man to do it.

00:23:32.640 That's exactly right.

00:23:33.860 And Sarah, did you accomplish your mission of making sure your number one priorities,

00:23:38.140 Mark put it, that everyone's hair looks absolutely flawless.

00:23:41.040 So as someone who's been skydiving, so I'm a professional skydiver and an astronaut.

00:23:45.300 Yeah.

00:23:45.680 All in one.

00:23:46.360 I was on, I did not know if the, if hair was going to be like how it is skydiving,

00:23:52.320 which is not good.

00:23:53.420 Not attractive.

00:23:54.000 It's the extensions are gone, all of it, you know, and myself, you know, the extensions

00:23:59.280 would fly right out.

00:24:00.280 Anyway, I was taken aback by how good hair looks in zero gravity.

00:24:06.200 It adds a plump.

00:24:07.700 It adds volume.

00:24:09.440 It was floating.

00:24:11.180 Maureen's hair stayed.

00:24:12.320 It was incredible.

00:24:12.960 There were no bobby pins flying out.

00:24:14.500 And I have to say, kudos to you for choosing the ponytail for yours truly.

00:24:19.340 Yeah.

00:24:19.900 Oh, we forgot to put on our hats.

00:24:21.580 Oh, yeah.

00:24:22.060 Oh, we forgot our celebratory.

00:24:23.640 Oh, hold on.

00:24:24.220 I forgot.

00:24:24.340 Wait.

00:24:25.180 Hold on.

00:24:26.300 Sell the merch.

00:24:27.400 Sell the merch.

00:24:28.040 Yeah.

00:24:28.220 We got to sell the merch.

00:24:28.840 I actually.

00:24:29.400 Here's our hats.

00:24:30.420 Want to drive around with this.

00:24:31.640 But the ponytail really worked up there because our goal was, of course, as with the other

00:24:38.800 team, to be as frivolous as humanly possible while we lectured everybody that there was

00:24:44.100 no frivolity.

00:24:45.720 And I think we nailed that.

00:24:46.800 I think Jake nailed that in the producing, too, juxtaposing the shots.

00:24:50.480 I was debating bringing heels because I studied her videos, Lauren Sanchez's videos, and she

00:24:56.480 was, in fact, wearing heels.

00:24:57.600 Oh, my God.

00:24:58.060 She was wearing a necklace.

00:24:59.500 I was told I could not wear jewelry.

00:25:01.120 It would hit me in the face.

00:25:03.840 So, you know, a lot was put at risk there.

00:25:06.980 That's right.

00:25:07.500 We were taking real risks.

00:25:08.980 And we are wearing the Blonde Origin hats.

00:25:11.280 That is our merch.

00:25:12.800 You can go to shopmegankelly.com to get a variety of things, either these hats that we

00:25:18.000 all have.

00:25:19.400 The hats read, don't call it a ride.

00:25:22.500 Have you been?

00:25:24.160 There's a little notebook you can get with the label, I'm inspirational.

00:25:28.480 There's a mug, quoting Lauren Sanchez, so dark, so quiet.

00:25:33.840 Lots of fun merch with our logo.

00:25:37.420 I'm inspirational was my favorite.

00:25:40.380 It's so dark.

00:25:41.300 I'm not sure.

00:25:42.020 I don't.

00:25:42.220 Mark, you're the most seasoned journalist here.

00:25:44.460 Does it work when the subject of a report tells the audience exactly what they should

00:25:48.920 be feeling about her?

00:25:50.980 Most journalists I know are more into show than tell, but there was a lot of tell going,

00:25:55.200 a lot of tell going on there.

00:25:56.320 I mean, I felt like lead the horse to water and maybe it will drink.

00:26:02.540 All right.

00:26:04.080 So we've got to talk for a minute about how this came about.

00:26:08.340 So Maureen, we did our Meghan Markle parody and we were talking about these morons in

00:26:15.400 that same two hour show we did two Fridays ago and how just how ridiculous they were

00:26:21.100 and how self-congratulatory.

00:26:22.960 Nobody would have made fun of them if they had just taken that flight and come back down

00:26:26.360 and said, that was really cool.

00:26:27.340 Wow.

00:26:27.640 Amazing.

00:26:27.960 But they took themselves so seriously.

00:26:29.700 They literally were insisting that we call them astronauts.

00:26:32.180 They were Gail lectured us on how inspirational she was.

00:26:35.740 I mean, it got crazier and crazier.

00:26:38.140 And so you and I, as we are want to do mock them mercilessly.

00:26:42.500 And that night, Doug and I went out to dinner and I was like, because we had played that

00:26:46.940 Martha Stewart clip of her doing the zero G flight.

00:26:49.720 And I'm like, we have got to do it.

00:26:52.100 We've we, Doug and I were talking about how I'm like, I got to get Maureen and we got to

00:26:56.180 go back up there.

00:26:57.280 And we were like, who, who else could we get?

00:27:00.140 That's where you came in link.

00:27:01.400 We were like, link would probably be our next victim.

00:27:04.500 But he, he was too afraid and he had no breasts to show.

00:27:09.800 So Sarah, Sarah was actually a good, good choice.

00:27:12.580 And, um, in any event, I said to Abby, can you contact these guys and see how expensive

00:27:16.960 this flight would be?

00:27:17.840 You know, cause it's probably not cheap.

00:27:20.360 Literally the next day without Abby having yet contacted them, they contacted me.

00:27:26.600 They had seen the segment and they had the same idea.

00:27:31.180 Like she probably would love to come up here and give this a try.

00:27:33.620 So I didn't even have to hide from them.

00:27:35.740 This whole, the whole thing was a massive troll.

00:27:37.620 Like I didn't have to pretend like I'm taking this very seriously as like part of my astronaut

00:27:41.860 training.

00:27:42.620 They knew we were out there to laugh.

00:27:44.340 A lot of the people on the flight though, when we were singing at the end, I was like,

00:27:48.100 oh my God, they're the way they were looking at us like these sick people.

00:27:51.240 Cause they were, who did they think they are?

00:27:52.980 They were civilian, they were non-astronaut trainers on board the flight who we tried to,

00:27:57.540 you know, preserve the privacy of, but yeah, they, they were like, why are they taking

00:28:01.060 themselves so?

00:28:02.000 They had no idea.

00:28:03.620 So can I also just say, yeah, go ahead, Link.

00:28:08.600 No, I was just going to say watching this whole thing.

00:28:10.580 I really realized Jeff Bezos is the smartest person on earth because he spent what 50 million,

00:28:15.520 a hundred million to have 11 minutes of peace from his whiny, obnoxious wife.

00:28:20.340 I think every man out there is going to be jealous.

00:28:22.520 Like if we can just spend like 10 minutes of peace from Lauren Sanchez, we would do it.

00:28:26.420 You know, I, I do.

00:28:28.120 One of the, my observations was you watch them in that stupid, you know, vessel and they're

00:28:33.640 like, they're floating around the, each person makes it about herself, right?

00:28:36.380 Like Katy Perry with her stupid daisy.

00:28:38.620 I mean, I had my strut wick, um, and whatever, they're all just promoting something or themselves.

00:28:44.440 You look at what we were doing.

00:28:46.000 What were we doing?

00:28:46.960 My, my lasting memory of the whole thing will be Maureen's amazing laugh.

00:28:51.360 The best laugh ever, like hearty, heartfelt.

00:28:56.100 And the three of us slamming down on the ground over and over and crawling all over each other like puppies.

00:29:02.460 We had so much fun, right?

00:29:04.980 That was, I would do it again right now.

00:29:06.860 Like they didn't have fun.

00:29:08.140 They couldn't, they couldn't have fun while up there, nor could they make fun of themselves,

00:29:12.340 which was less what spelled death for the whole project.

00:29:15.500 Mo thoughts.

00:29:16.760 Yeah.

00:29:17.000 A hundred percent.

00:29:17.800 I mean, the thing about the laughter, like I couldn't stop laughing.

00:29:21.660 It was so wild.

00:29:23.120 I felt like we were all babies, you know, like real babies.

00:29:26.340 Like, what are these limbs?

00:29:27.560 What do they do?

00:29:28.540 Like, how do I get from point A to point B?

00:29:30.860 Like some force is like picking me up and now I'm being slammed back down.

00:29:34.980 And like, I was just praying to myself that like, we didn't actually hurt each other,

00:29:39.160 you know, because we were all just like colliding constantly.

00:29:42.260 It was the wildest experience.

00:29:44.920 It was the most fun.

00:29:46.320 And you're so right.

00:29:47.720 Those guys couldn't even laugh and enjoy it.

00:29:50.320 It's so freaking weird.

00:29:53.480 Like, how do you come down and start lecturing everybody on how they need to be taking that

00:29:59.220 kind of frivolity, theirs and ours more seriously?

00:30:03.460 I mean, it's like, they're so out of touch.

00:30:05.640 They're still bitching about the backlash that they've received.

00:30:08.300 Katie Perry's out there now saying the internet's a bunch of unhinged people, but I know my light

00:30:13.580 in my joke.

00:30:16.580 Like you guys, when it came to Lauren Sanchez, Katie Perry and Gayle King, you guys are basically

00:30:22.440 in a floating phallic penis.

00:30:24.720 Okay.

00:30:25.020 You guys are taking yourselves way too seriously for being up there in these perfectly tailored

00:30:30.220 suits.

00:30:30.980 Like I said, they probably spent more time getting tailored and fitted for the suits than

00:30:34.660 the 11 minutes they actually spent in space.

00:30:36.760 So if they'd been in on the joke, we wouldn't be sitting here right now, but they take themselves

00:30:40.960 so seriously.

00:30:42.640 I mean, we also had our zero gravity astronaut suits tailored.

00:30:47.400 Yeah, we did.

00:30:48.720 We had them taken in.

00:30:49.940 And I'll show that as a bonus on megankelly.com where we had a fitting where we tighter, tighter,

00:30:55.680 cinch it, cinch it, lower, make it.

00:30:57.820 We had the pushup bras on.

00:30:59.940 I mean, we were channeling our inner blue origin astronauts.

00:31:04.020 We're all in the same club now.

00:31:06.040 And by the way, I did look it up.

00:31:07.920 And if you have trained for outer space, which we clearly did, you're an astronaut.

00:31:13.560 You can call yourself that.

00:31:14.540 It was like a website called like girlbot.com, but it's couch.

00:31:18.600 All right.

00:31:19.880 Equal part, equal part of homage and mockumentary.

00:31:24.740 Exactly.

00:31:25.300 So I feel like it was the perfect way to kick off the MK media network for you three, Maureen,

00:31:31.580 Mark and Link, you are officially, as we say in the astronaut business, launched.

00:31:38.480 Incredible.

00:31:39.280 What an honor.

00:31:40.040 And I would just like to add, I was on such a time crunch.

00:31:42.960 I did not get to have my spacesuit tailored, nor did I get to order the same kind of boots

00:31:50.020 that you and Sarah were wearing, which I was very jealous of because they were like a slim

00:31:54.280 line, but chunky boot with like a tread and a really nice heel.

00:31:59.180 Yeah.

00:32:00.000 Yeah.

00:32:00.400 I'm jealous, jealous.

00:32:01.980 Yeah.

00:32:02.180 They're great.

00:32:03.120 For those of you.

00:32:04.000 Mine were from ASOS.

00:32:05.180 Yeah.

00:32:05.700 I mean, potential new merch.

00:32:09.360 Well, what's crazy about blue origin.

00:32:11.500 What's crazy about blue origin is the left is all about body positivity and DEI.

00:32:16.240 They did not send anyone up there with an ounce of body fat.

00:32:19.580 They found the skinniest, tiniest women.

00:32:21.320 They didn't send Lizzo up into space.

00:32:23.100 They're like, we have a weight limit.

00:32:24.260 We're finding the tiniest women we can to come back down.

00:32:27.380 Oh, my God.

00:32:29.540 Actually, can we send Lizzo into space?

00:32:31.740 I think now we can.

00:32:33.060 Post-Ozempic.

00:32:33.980 Well, she's on Ozempic now.

00:32:34.880 Yeah.

00:32:35.380 I do want to thank the good people of Zero Gravity.

00:32:39.900 And full disclosure, they did comp one of our tickets.

00:32:43.620 And yours really paid for the rest.

00:32:45.300 And it was worth every penny.

00:32:47.460 I've never better spent my money.

00:32:50.460 Not only did we do it, but I would do it again.

00:32:52.420 I would recommend all of you do it.

00:32:53.620 Do take the Zofran because it can get a little dicey on the stomach.

00:32:58.040 But, you know, nausea without vomiting, that's fine.

00:33:00.740 That's a win.

00:33:01.840 I wish you guys were in studio so you could join us in this toast.

00:33:04.640 But here's blonde origin.

00:33:06.420 To blonde origin and to many more fun spoofs with all of you guys.

00:33:13.660 Cheers, dear.

00:33:15.420 Cheers, dear.

00:33:16.920 We need that bell.

00:33:17.620 Oh, we need to ring the bell.

00:33:18.720 Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

00:33:19.800 Yes.

00:33:20.340 On the next space flight.

00:33:22.800 Okay.

00:33:23.180 My thanks to Maureen, to Mark, to Link, the stars of MK Media.

00:33:26.920 Please go subscribe to their podcast.

00:33:29.460 Mark is next up.

00:33:31.420 Maureen is the nerve.

00:33:33.220 And Link, do we have a name?

00:33:35.140 Oh, Spot On.

00:33:36.140 Spot On.

00:33:36.680 Spot On.

00:33:37.100 You can go subscribe to that right now.

00:33:38.240 Next week.

00:33:38.940 Yes.

00:33:39.460 Link launches this week.

00:33:41.540 And all the fun is just beginning.

00:33:43.220 And don't forget, if you would like one of these fun hats or some of the other merch,

00:33:47.660 like a mug or a notebook, they're all relatively low price points.

00:33:51.740 You can go to ShopMeganKelley.com and get your blonde origin merch.

00:33:58.000 So fun.

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00:35:11.900 Katy Perry, Gayle King, Lauren Sanchez.

00:35:14.660 Yeah, you know their names, sadly.

00:35:16.420 But there are so many actually meritorious, deserving people whose names you should know

00:35:21.380 and don't for actually doing something that does matter in their communities.

00:35:26.180 And thanks to Mike Rowe, this is right on brand.

00:35:28.360 And his new docu-series he's putting out.

00:35:31.080 These people are going to enjoy their moment in the spotlight, and for very good reason.

00:35:36.520 The series is called People You Should Know, and it debuts today on Mike's YouTube channel.

00:35:42.400 Here's a look at what you're going to get.

00:35:44.040 I believe in the power of pointing our cameras in the right place.

00:35:52.160 They say 22 veterans take their lives per day.

00:35:54.920 We teach blacksmithing and bladesmithing as a therapeutic outlet.

00:35:59.660 Hot yoga has nothing on us.

00:36:01.380 Tech stands for teaching the autism community traits.

00:36:03.680 That inspired me to start thinking about, like, hey, how can I get books to kids?

00:36:08.100 Free books! Free books!

00:36:10.260 We'll just put some of these fairytale books out.

00:36:13.080 Yeah, I think fairytale would be a good theme for today.

00:36:15.760 Why is it not brought up that 90% of the autism community is unemployed?

00:36:20.260 There is a giant demographic of people jumping up and down saying, we want to work.

00:36:24.760 How dramatic an impact can a bike have?

00:36:27.140 First, it gives people some dignity. They can get to a job.

00:36:30.400 You're going to take care of your rent for the next 18 months.

00:36:32.620 That's $50,000.

00:36:36.860 Just like that, you've got a TV show.

00:36:42.940 Yeah, people you should know.

00:36:44.500 Mike Rowe, great to see you.

00:36:45.440 Hi, Megan.

00:36:46.000 Cheers.

00:36:46.840 Cheers, my God.

00:36:48.040 What a thrill to be here awash in your victory and all of the import.

00:36:53.680 One might be saying you feel inspired.

00:36:57.780 Well, I went beyond inspiration watching that.

00:37:01.160 Go on.

00:37:01.300 Well, I entered a—to bring it back to me for just a moment, I was reminded of my days as a fighter pilot.

00:37:06.940 I don't know if you knew I did that once upon a time.

00:37:08.740 No, no, do tell.

00:37:09.440 Well, I mean, I didn't actually fly the planes, but I did go up in the back of an F-18 Hornet with the Blue Angels.

00:37:15.860 That counts.

00:37:16.640 I thought so, too.

00:37:17.720 You're there.

00:37:18.260 And look, I don't want to—I don't want to overstate it, but when I came out of that backseat after that flight, covered with my own vomit and freshly awakened from passing out, yeah.

00:37:32.220 I was pretty sure I could have flown that thing if they would have given me a shot.

00:37:36.600 And to this day, the fact that they didn't, you know, it sticks with you, that kind of disappointment.

00:37:42.440 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:42.780 That snub.

00:37:43.880 Yeah.

00:37:44.080 But with time and professional help, I think I'm going to eventually get over it.

00:37:49.420 It's a little easier.

00:37:50.400 Probably not today.

00:37:51.660 Well, I mean, thankfully, I don't have that issue because people are recognizing me as an astronaut.

00:37:55.880 Sure.

00:37:56.600 I mean, you could see I had to get them in line and make them do it.

00:37:59.280 Like, they were falling down on the job a little.

00:38:00.860 But then they got there.

00:38:02.280 We actually did look up.

00:38:04.480 Like, tell us a little bit more about actual astronaut training because they are calling themselves astronauts.

00:38:10.420 Yeah.

00:38:10.580 And in Gail's defense, she says, I still have trouble calling myself that.

00:38:14.500 But she does.

00:38:15.460 But she worked her way through it.

00:38:18.160 She overcame.

00:38:19.520 Okay, here's, like, a couple of the things.

00:38:21.240 All right, there's spacewalk training in NASA's Neutral Buoyancy Lab.

00:38:25.600 You study the space station systems.

00:38:27.940 Flying a T-38 jet, all of this is part of some astronaut training.

00:38:33.540 Okay, there's, you have to be a U.S. citizen.

00:38:35.640 You have to possess a master's degree in a STEM field, including engineering, biological science,

00:38:39.660 physical science, computer science, or mathematics.

00:38:41.380 I'm pretty sure that does not apply to Gail, Katie, or Lauren Sanchez.

00:38:44.420 But, okay.

00:38:45.240 Lauren Sanchez is a pilot.

00:38:46.440 I'll give her that.

00:38:46.980 She flies helicopters.

00:38:48.640 You do have to have at least 1,000 hours pilot in command time or two years of related professional experience.

00:38:55.220 Perfect visual acuity.

00:38:57.280 Blood pressure not to exceed 140 over 90.

00:38:59.500 Standing height between 5'2 and 6'2.

00:39:02.100 Excellent physical condition.

00:39:03.380 So, actually, Lizzo is out.

00:39:04.700 And then, you have to, after you get selected by NASA, they report for training, and then they spend the next two years, two years, not two days, like those morons in Blue Origin touted about their intensive training.

00:39:17.700 Two years learning basic astronaut skills like spacewalking, operating the space station, flying T-38 jet planes, and controlling a robotic arm.

00:39:24.800 You have to complete military water survival before beginning your flying syllabus.

00:39:29.320 You have to become scuba qualified to prepare a spacewalk training.

00:39:32.260 You are exposed to problems associated with high hyperbaric and low hypobaric atmospheric pressures in the altitude chambers to learn to deal with emergencies associated with these conditions.

00:39:43.560 And astronaut candidates are given exposure to the microgravity of spaceflight during flights in a modified jet aircraft as it performs parabolic maneuvers.

00:39:51.300 That's what we did.

00:39:52.080 Hello.

00:39:52.400 I'm an astronaut, just like I said.

00:39:54.020 It's not learning how to buckle your seatbelt.

00:39:56.520 Right.

00:39:56.900 But, look, those are just requirements.

00:39:58.660 It's nowhere in there do they talk about the qualities.

00:40:02.980 Like, you need a measure of patience, right?

00:40:07.000 You also need a measure of humility.

00:40:09.360 Yes.

00:40:09.740 That's impossible to quantify.

00:40:12.480 I wrote a story a few years ago for my podcast, not about Neil Armstrong, but about Buzz Aldrin, who, of course, was the second man.

00:40:21.440 The lesser known.

00:40:21.960 Yes.

00:40:22.860 And he told a little parenthetical tale that really stuck with me years ago about the time that he had to wait and just the place you go mentally, right?

00:40:35.860 And then the fact that all of a sudden he's got to pee.

00:40:39.980 He really has to pee.

00:40:41.860 And as Neil Armstrong is literally taking one small step for mankind, Buzz is just filling his special little stadium pal, right?

00:40:54.840 Okay.

00:40:55.180 Oh, stadium pal.

00:40:56.080 Got it.

00:40:56.380 With urine.

00:40:57.560 And so, you know, there's – like, where do you put that in the – like, no one writes about that.

00:41:03.480 But you do want to know.

00:41:04.460 No one thinks about that.

00:41:04.660 But that's also what being an astronaut is.

00:41:06.620 Sometimes you just have to stand quietly by after hours and hours and hours of patience while somebody else gets all the glory and you pee your pants.

00:41:15.480 I mean, this is like a theme when you come on that we talk about bathroom and toilet issues.

00:41:19.500 It worked well last time.

00:41:20.320 Let's be honest.

00:41:21.200 It's the other function that you'd really be dreading with all of the NASA controllers watching.

00:41:25.620 When you think about zero gravity and the effect that could have on the lower GI tract and the immediate results after an evacuation, I just – yeah, I would have liked to have seen more of that in this trip just to really balance it out, right?

00:41:41.080 So you've got the glamour and you've got the excitement.

00:41:43.720 But just to remind people that we're all put together the same basic way.

00:41:48.560 You just get little pieces of scat floating through the air, right?

00:41:52.660 I don't think Sarah will mind me telling you that was her greatest fear because she said when she gets really nervous or scared, sometimes she has a GI issue.

00:42:00.220 Well, when you're in zero gravity, that's everybody's greatest fear.

00:42:02.840 Yeah, no one would turn away.

00:42:04.100 Yeah.

00:42:04.720 Poor Jake I'd have to give hazard pay to.

00:42:06.600 It was bad enough.

00:42:07.140 He had to risk his life.

00:42:07.980 But you know what?

00:42:08.460 Back to my days as a fighter pilot, I'm not – when I talk about humility, like when you're in the back of that thing, and this was a private flight.

00:42:17.680 They were spoiling me because I was hosting a show in San Francisco and they wanted to show me the entire maneuvers of the Blue Angel experience.

00:42:26.420 So I'm strapped into the back of this thing and the captain tells me, look, he said, Mike, I've got two goals and I'm going to be candid with you.

00:42:33.480 Three, really.

00:42:34.580 First, I'd like to make you pass out.

00:42:37.140 Secondly, I'm going to make you throw up.

00:42:38.780 What?

00:42:38.980 And third, we're leaving with a full tank of gas and we're going to come back on empty.

00:42:42.840 And I'm going to show you everything from barrel rolls to the Immelman to all these great Red Baron type maneuvers.

00:42:49.580 And I didn't pass out because I knew the Hick maneuver.

00:42:53.100 Oh.

00:42:53.780 The Hick maneuver.

00:42:54.820 So when you start pulling Gs, like six, seven, eight, nine.

00:42:57.780 Yeah, I'm aware of the Gs.

00:42:58.560 You understand.

00:42:59.040 As an astronaut, of course.

00:42:59.660 Yeah, I got it.

00:43:00.240 You understand this.

00:43:00.900 What's happening is the blood in your brain is being pulled down into your extremities and you've got to get the blood back in your brain.

00:43:09.240 So what you do is you grab the sides of your seat and you pull up hard and you dig your heels into the ground and then you make this sound.

00:43:17.520 You go, hick, hick, hick, hick.

00:43:20.580 Really?

00:43:21.160 Yeah.

00:43:21.580 Hick, hick, hick.

00:43:22.820 That's it.

00:43:23.340 Okay.

00:43:23.640 Oh, you aren't.

00:43:24.220 You're going to be amazing.

00:43:25.180 I'm in.

00:43:26.160 So all of that hicking and all of that pulling and all of that pushing gets the blood back into your brain and it keeps you from passing out.

00:43:33.500 Now, a great pilot can do that simply by going, like, because that's a muscle that you build up.

00:43:40.480 Yes.

00:43:40.500 Just to quickly interject, the folks who you see standing on that zero gravity flight are people who work for zero gravity.

00:43:46.480 Sure.

00:43:46.660 And they've done it so many times.

00:43:47.960 They're not affected by it the way you or I would be.

00:43:50.380 Now, with regard to nausea, there's not a damn thing you can do.

00:43:53.000 Now, when this guy comes out of a barrel roll and you're hicking and you're pulling, like, 11 Gs and then you're over the Farallons and he flips the plane upside down and you're breaking the sound barrier and you're about 100 feet over the water and through the plexiglass dome over your head in an upside down inverted position, you can see the sonic concussions making the ocean pop.

00:44:14.420 And it's at that moment that you vomit onto the plexiglass and then he flips the plane back upside down and you sit there, Megan, hicking, trying not to pass out as your own vomit drips onto your head.

00:44:28.620 Sounds horrible.

00:44:29.600 It's the essence of humility and it's what I meant before.

00:44:32.840 Until you've sat there quietly contemplating your own choices in life.

00:44:37.400 A vomit rain.

00:44:38.220 Yes.

00:44:38.640 Your vomit.

00:44:39.620 That's important.

00:44:40.320 Yeah.

00:44:40.580 Not somebody else's.

00:44:41.620 That's better.

00:44:42.160 I'd rather be under my own, I think.

00:44:44.360 It's the stuff of character.

00:44:45.700 Wait a minute.

00:44:46.140 So now with the benefit of hindsight, did you enjoy that ride?

00:44:49.900 Oh my God.

00:44:50.860 Well, yes.

00:44:52.180 I mean, it's a tricky question.

00:44:54.220 And first of all, it's not a ride.

00:44:55.860 Thank you.

00:44:56.580 Thank you very much.

00:44:57.260 I would think you of all people would be aware.

00:44:59.180 It's not a ride.

00:44:59.980 That was an adventure.

00:45:01.660 It was a mission.

00:45:02.620 And it wasn't just about me.

00:45:03.720 It was for all mankind.

00:45:04.820 Yes.

00:45:05.140 I can understand the sacrifice.

00:45:06.400 But I'll tell you that I, yes, I didn't enjoy it, but I loved it.

00:45:12.980 Like you're glad you did it.

00:45:13.880 Oh my God.

00:45:14.620 I'm so glad.

00:45:15.580 Well, because here's what happened to me when I was on the zero G. The first two are lunar.

00:45:21.420 First three were like lunar gravity, which is not the full zero gravity.

00:45:26.600 So your whole body doesn't levitate up to the ceiling, but you do levitate a little.

00:45:29.860 And I was fine.

00:45:32.020 But the one rule they gave us is when you're in between the parabolas, you lie down and

00:45:37.040 they said, do not lift your head.

00:45:38.820 As you lift your head against the G's, you are going to get sick.

00:45:41.880 So of course I was, I smushed myself down.

00:45:43.920 I'm like, okay, I'm not letting that happen.

00:45:45.540 Well, there was one parabola where the one guy was like, okay, get up, get up.

00:45:48.540 And we tried, but we couldn't.

00:45:50.720 So he had mistaken that we were, it was time to levitate and it wasn't.

00:45:55.500 And I did lift my head.

00:45:57.060 And from that point forward, they were right.

00:45:58.960 I felt like I was going to hurl and I didn't, thank God.

00:46:02.860 But you like halfway through that exercise, even though I still had fun, I was very worried

00:46:07.100 that I was going to throw up.

00:46:07.980 What you had there was what the doctors call premature levitation.

00:46:11.780 Yeah.

00:46:12.300 And this can be awkward and embarrassing.

00:46:14.520 Especially as you get older.

00:46:15.500 Right.

00:46:16.020 You think you know yourself.

00:46:17.660 Next thing, that's not supposed to be like that now.

00:46:21.460 But how could you enjoy being in an F-18?

00:46:24.480 Yeah.

00:46:24.720 Like when you, you have thrown up, you feel nauseous and he's, he keeps going.

00:46:29.940 Well, look, first of all, if you're me, like if you're the dirty jobs guy and you're in that

00:46:35.900 position, you have one job and it's to not complain.

00:46:39.840 That's your only job.

00:46:41.560 So I wasn't about to do that.

00:46:44.620 But I also like, if, if you see the blue angels up close doing those maneuvers, it, it's, um,

00:46:51.800 it's awesome in the literal sense of the word.

00:46:54.140 They're inches from each other going six, 700 miles an hour, all coordinated.

00:46:59.180 It's a, it's a dance and the stakes couldn't be higher.

00:47:02.080 And these guys are so finely trained.

00:47:04.940 Um, it's almost like a kind of singularity between human and, and machine.

00:47:10.800 And it's a wonder to watch it.

00:47:13.900 You know, this, what you're, what you're saying, you know, about not complaining is of course,

00:47:18.380 one of the main reasons that we're targeting them is they're just foolishness in messaging

00:47:22.980 around the whole thing.

00:47:23.620 So they went from self aggrandizement to now complaining about the audience's reaction.

00:47:28.820 And, and the, one of the lines on, on our mugs or in our hats is, have you been because

00:47:34.540 Gail in response to the criticism, tried to shut up all of America by saying, you can't

00:47:41.280 criticize her unless you've been, which is why we went week now I've been and it's on

00:47:47.740 under her own rules.

00:47:49.060 It's on sister.

00:47:50.760 I've now been your fair game.

00:47:52.740 And I find you even more absurd than I did before.

00:47:55.500 Well, look not to pile on, but please do.

00:47:58.420 Okay.

00:47:58.820 In a way you're, you're, you're working on a, on a show called people.

00:48:04.540 You shouldn't know.

00:48:06.020 Yes.

00:48:06.760 Because really in the end, it, it feels like we're surrounded by examples of good behavior,

00:48:14.940 bad behavior, self-indulgent behavior, selfless behavior, whatever it is.

00:48:20.300 And, you know, I, I loved, I loved that story.

00:48:24.840 I loved watching it because ultimately I thought it was, um, a teachable moment.

00:48:29.500 Sure.

00:48:29.900 Not for them, but really the, the audience does now have an opportunity to, to really

00:48:36.680 think objectively and candidly about what did we just see?

00:48:42.700 What are we celebrating?

00:48:44.260 Why are we celebrating it?

00:48:46.040 Why are we being told this was important?

00:48:48.800 And, and what are we to make of it?

00:48:51.200 And if you're me trying to figure out how to, how to navigate what's left of my career in

00:48:57.520 this insane universe, it's, it's like, well, do I want to focus on, on those people or these

00:49:04.880 people?

00:49:05.460 And, and there's no right or wrong answer, but it was just really fun watching what you

00:49:10.720 just did and, and thinking about the difference between the people you were lampooning and

00:49:17.300 the people I've been lucky enough to feature on shows like Dirty Jobs.

00:49:20.600 Celebrating.

00:49:21.600 Yeah.

00:49:22.140 I mean, I, I hate to even say celebrating because it, it, it's so adjacent to a level

00:49:27.280 of earnestness that I think people ought to be wary of.

00:49:31.200 Okay.

00:49:31.660 I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a, well, I was celebrating them as I watched.

00:49:36.180 Yeah.

00:49:36.500 But you were in on the joke.

00:49:37.820 No, your guys, like your guys watching the series.

00:49:39.940 Oh, those guys.

00:49:40.280 Oh.

00:49:40.580 Like you sit, you want to stand up and cheer.

00:49:42.340 Like the guy who makes the beds and we can get into it in a minute.

00:49:45.400 But I'm like, all right, stand by.

00:49:46.400 We're going to take a break and then we'll, we'll talk a bit about it because it is inspirational

00:49:49.280 and you're right that we could have called it people.

00:49:51.480 You shouldn't know.

00:49:52.640 And you're welcome to it.

00:49:53.580 We, we all know the only reason we know Gail is because she's Oprah's best friend.

00:49:56.500 I mean, that's very obvious to everybody.

00:49:58.140 Stand by more with Mike ahead.

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00:50:57.880 Mike Rowe is here.

00:51:03.820 His new show is people you should know, and it premieres today.

00:51:07.840 You can find it at the real Mike Rowe YouTube channel.

00:51:11.300 And now we've slapped a blonde origin hat on him.

00:51:14.900 You can get yours by going to shopmegankelly.com or a mug or a notebook.

00:51:19.800 Let me just say it's adjustable, it's lightweight, it comes in only one color really, but it's

00:51:26.320 a great color.

00:51:27.140 It's very flattering on anyone.

00:51:28.420 Thank you.

00:51:29.000 Yeah.

00:51:29.500 Join in on the mockery fun.

00:51:32.220 I want to talk about your show, but before we do, we're on a great subject, which is like

00:51:36.840 these rich and powerful people who are totally unaware of how people perceive them and how

00:51:43.340 great their lives are and how little they should be complaining, period, nevermind publicly,

00:51:49.000 which leads me to Michelle Obama.

00:51:52.460 Every day she's dropped another negativity bomb on us, whether on her podcast or on someone

00:51:58.140 else's.

00:51:58.540 I mean, this audience knows she never says anything positive.

00:52:02.460 It is all complaints.

00:52:04.540 So she goes on another podcast.

00:52:06.780 She's promoting her show.

00:52:07.780 So she's making the rounds, the diary of a CEO podcast and actually found a way to bitch

00:52:15.220 and moan about how hard it is to live in the White House.

00:52:20.100 When you walk through a storm, keep your head held high.

00:52:25.240 Show me, show me.

00:52:26.180 Watch it.

00:52:27.540 It's projecting that if you win, which I thought he could and should, he would be somebody that

00:52:32.680 I would want as my president.

00:52:34.480 It was all about, this is going to, you know, our kids are little, we're going to have to

00:52:40.140 move.

00:52:40.920 How do you raise kids in the White House?

00:52:43.700 It's dangerous.

00:52:45.160 As the first Black potential president, we knew there'd be death threats.

00:52:50.540 There were just all the, how would we afford it?

00:52:53.040 Because it's expensive to live in the White House.

00:52:56.340 Many people don't know.

00:52:58.440 I mean, much is not covered.

00:53:00.580 You're paying for every food, every bit of food that you eat.

00:53:04.320 You know, you're not paying for housing and the staff in it, but everything, even travel.

00:53:09.400 If you're not traveling with the president, if your kids are coming on a Bright Star, which

00:53:13.760 is the first lady's plane, we had to pay for their travel to be on the plane.

00:53:18.960 It is an expensive proposition and you're running for two years and not earning an income.

00:53:25.080 Please help me, Mike Rowe.

00:53:26.620 Well, Megan, the struggle is real.

00:53:28.700 Jeez Louise.

00:53:31.140 Have you ever heard anything so out of touch?

00:53:35.200 Sure, but not from anyone in that position.

00:53:39.580 They both have planes and she's mad that you have to pay the cost of an airline ticket for

00:53:45.560 the daughters to fly on them.

00:53:46.960 I wonder, I mean, seriously, she's not a, she's a smart woman.

00:53:52.840 But she's aggrieved.

00:53:54.200 She is immersed in a powerful and inescapable sense of grievance.

00:53:59.820 Do you think it's an attempt to, to be relatable?

00:54:04.140 No, no, no.

00:54:05.020 She's, she's angry.

00:54:06.320 She's angry and unhappy.

00:54:07.520 I've watched enough of her over the years.

00:54:09.680 And then with this ridiculous podcast, she's trying to launch to see she's a deeply unhappy

00:54:14.200 person.

00:54:14.600 What's happening with, with people at that level in podcasts?

00:54:17.980 What's Gavin Newsom doing?

00:54:19.600 He's running for president.

00:54:20.740 That one makes more sense to me strategically.

00:54:23.020 I, she's like, she should be in her therapist's office.

00:54:25.980 Her brother Craig is not.

00:54:27.480 Oh, he did?

00:54:28.080 Yeah.

00:54:28.280 What do you think I should do?

00:54:29.120 I don't support it.

00:54:31.080 Yeah.

00:54:31.560 Well, my feeling is Gavin Newsom is using people to build up his skills so that he can

00:54:37.900 more effectively debate the Republican nominee in 2028.

00:54:40.920 Even if, even if somebody goes on and cleans his clock.

00:54:43.240 Yeah.

00:54:43.740 Which basically happened when Charlie Kirk went on, but it's, that's not good.

00:54:48.400 Gavin Newsom took some blows, but emerged having learned something probably that he'll

00:54:55.100 be better at handling in 2028.

00:54:57.580 And I just don't think it's the job of the right to help train this guy.

00:55:00.320 I likened it to the Rocky versus Drago, Drago fight in Rocky four.

00:55:05.020 Why would we help train the Russian?

00:55:06.980 Do you think there was an argument that went the other way when Bill Maher went to the White

00:55:11.080 House?

00:55:11.740 Like when you hear like Larry David wrote that editorial, my dinner with Adolf.

00:55:16.420 And there's this idea that it's like, look, that's a bridge too far.

00:55:20.280 And you're just simply lending credibility by the very proximity of your presence.

00:55:26.120 I get both, you know?

00:55:27.860 I think that makes no sense.

00:55:29.320 If the president of the United States invites you for dinner, you should go.

00:55:33.140 No matter who.

00:55:33.540 I would have gone if it were Joe Biden, Barack Obama in a heartbeat.

00:55:36.460 Absolutely.

00:55:36.900 I would do that.

00:55:37.820 You get to see the White House.

00:55:39.340 Trump is very, he's a gratuitous when you come there.

00:55:43.000 He's gracious is the word I'm looking for.

00:55:44.620 And he'll, he gives everybody a tour.

00:55:46.720 It seems like almost everybody is shown the Lincoln bedroom.

00:55:49.300 Who wouldn't want to see that?

00:55:50.800 Oh, in fact, we have something very funny on this.

00:55:52.580 Elon Musk just made news last night.

00:55:54.480 Do we have that?

00:55:54.980 You guys, we cut that on what happens when he sleeps over at the White House.

00:55:59.840 Do we have it?

00:56:00.300 I can't hear.

00:56:00.960 Let's, if we have it, let's play it.

00:56:03.080 Oh, it's not on tape.

00:56:04.300 Oh shit.

00:56:04.760 Okay.

00:56:04.960 It's just him.

00:56:05.820 Well, I remember what he said.

00:56:07.100 He said, I'll be flying back with him like on the helicopter or on Air Force One.

00:56:10.700 And he'll be like, do you want to stay over?

00:56:12.040 You know, like kids having to sleep over.

00:56:13.680 And they'll say, sure, I'll stay over.

00:56:14.820 And he says, I sleep in the Lincoln bedroom.

00:56:16.580 And then Trump always calls me like nine o'clock at night and says, hey, you should go down to the kitchen and get yourself something to eat.

00:56:21.900 There's a bunch of ice cream down there.

00:56:23.340 So he said, I find myself in the White House kitchen eating a tub of ice cream.

00:56:26.300 It's like a scene from a movie.

00:56:27.480 Caramel, he said.

00:56:28.360 Don't tell Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:56:30.700 So yeah, it's like having, but I have to tell you something.

00:56:32.940 I know a friend who went to the White House with his wife in Trump 1.0 and had almost the same story.

00:56:40.080 They slept in the Lincoln bedroom.

00:56:41.340 Trump offered them the ice cream.

00:56:42.640 So not to take away Elon's specialness, but my point is he's very gracious and he's like a caretaker.

00:56:49.500 Everybody says that about Trump.

00:56:50.640 You go to golf with him in Mar-a-Lago or any one of his properties.

00:56:52.880 He's constantly making sure that you've got drinks and you've got food and you're happy.

00:56:57.020 Anyway, I just think, I don't know how we got on this line, but back to Michelle Obama.

00:57:02.500 She's not happy.

00:57:03.640 She's unhappy and she wants you to be too.

00:57:05.860 She looks around at the immense opulence around her.

00:57:09.000 She's literally complaining about the fact that even though the White House is free, the home is free, the staff are free.

00:57:15.800 The 55,000 square foot home, by the way, on 18 acres is free, but she has to pay for her own food, Mike.

00:57:22.200 She's got to pay for her groceries like everyone in America.

00:57:27.020 No justice, no peace.

00:57:29.180 It's like, oh God, I forgot what I was going to say.

00:57:34.440 I know, we're getting old.

00:57:35.140 And the champagne.

00:57:36.100 I know, it's kind of, what was it?

00:57:38.040 I think it was something to do with, oh, you mentioned the Lincoln bedroom.

00:57:41.220 I was at the Henry Ford Museum last night at this event.

00:57:44.200 They have the chair from Ford's Theater that Lincoln was sitting in when he was assassinating.

00:57:51.620 And I stood next to it.

00:57:53.740 And I did something I never do.

00:57:55.200 I took a picture.

00:57:57.120 And I'm not a sentimental person like that.

00:57:59.380 But the Lincoln bedroom, the chair where he was sitting, and right around the corner is the bus where Rosa Parks refused to move.

00:58:07.860 You can sit in the seat where she sat.

00:58:10.340 These artifacts, they're very powerful.

00:58:15.200 And it's really easy to minimize them and even dismiss them and not live in wonder in their presence.

00:58:25.540 That's what galls me about what we're talking about, the privilege to be in that house.

00:58:33.060 I mean, if you think about Adams and if you think about all the presidents who came before and all the families who lived there,

00:58:39.820 and then make a list of the people who had that privilege, who made the complaints that we're talking about now, there's nobody on that list.

00:58:48.760 That just didn't happen.

00:58:50.160 No.

00:58:50.340 I got this thing called a sweat pledge.

00:58:52.820 If you apply for a scholarship from my foundation, you have to sign it.

00:58:57.160 And the very first tenet on it says, I believe I have hit the greatest lottery of all time.

00:59:04.680 I'm alive.

00:59:05.440 I walk the earth.

00:59:06.460 I live in America.

00:59:07.400 Above all things, I'm grateful.

00:59:09.040 I have it there simply because I think it's impossible to feel sorry for yourself if your fundamental default position is gratitude.

00:59:18.760 And those are the people that I'm trying to surround myself by and help.

00:59:27.420 I've gone in a different direction.

00:59:29.580 It's fine.

00:59:30.360 This is also gratifying in its own way.

00:59:32.280 But to your point, it was just yesterday.

00:59:36.520 And you know, it's spring.

00:59:37.720 It's gorgeous.

00:59:39.040 It's getting to be the good part of spring.

00:59:40.760 The first half is so cold in the northeast.

00:59:42.780 It's really just a lame winter.

00:59:44.440 But now we're getting – May is spectacular.

00:59:46.120 And it happens like almost overnight where you go from empty branches to branches in full flower.

00:59:53.240 And, you know, the birds chirping and the flowers blooming, everything.

00:59:56.640 And I was looking out my window thinking, like, how many of these do you get?

01:00:03.320 You know, if you're lucky, if you're really lucky, you get 85 or 90 of these.

01:00:06.980 Yeah.

01:00:07.340 You know?

01:00:07.780 And we're here on borrowed time.

01:00:09.720 Like, this doesn't belong to us.

01:00:11.660 It belongs to God.

01:00:12.760 It belongs to the universe.

01:00:13.900 It belongs to the next generation and the one after that.

01:00:16.460 So we're renters, right?

01:00:17.720 Not owners.

01:00:18.680 Stewards.

01:00:19.140 And you look out and you just think, savor it.

01:00:21.720 Stop looking at your stupid device in your hand.

01:00:24.420 Take in the flowering blooms.

01:00:26.680 Smell the honeysuckle.

01:00:28.180 Be glad to be alive.

01:00:29.500 Like, treasure it right now.

01:00:31.300 You know?

01:00:31.560 And I know it's trite.

01:00:32.700 Everybody knows.

01:00:33.440 No tomorrow's promised.

01:00:34.640 But every once in a while, you get one of those moments and it's a gift, right?

01:00:37.820 Because you do think, I'm but a humble servant.

01:00:40.960 And I'm so lucky just to be here.

01:00:44.080 It's not some fancy house or fancy car or the fucking 55,000 square foot white house around you.

01:00:51.420 It's those flowers.

01:00:52.800 It's your rose garden, Michelle.

01:00:54.680 It's your children.

01:00:55.800 It's the way their hair smells.

01:00:57.500 It's like all the greatness stuff that actually gets you out of bed in the morning.

01:01:00.740 And what are the common people, as William Shatner or Paul before him would have put it,

01:01:07.500 what are we to make of a person who has risen to that great height who appears so dissatisfied with it?

01:01:19.560 I mean, never mind all the other personal stuff.

01:01:22.900 It's just like that alone, if you're a young person trying to figure out, you know, what's the path to a self-actualized life?

01:01:34.300 What might have to happen in my world for me to feel as though I accomplished a thing or did a thing or built a thing or made a thing?

01:01:43.000 And then you hear somebody who rose to that level talk about all of the adversity and all of the challenges and all the disappointment.

01:01:51.800 And the racist country.

01:01:53.180 Right.

01:01:54.080 It's kind of sad on a personal level, but I would say it's kind of dangerous if you're trying to find a way to inspire a generation who, kidding aside, needs to be inspired.

01:02:09.220 Not with some publicity stunt flight and not with all these other things, but like with real things that you can actually do in your life.

01:02:20.180 Like who is out there with that message in a non-earnest way, like in a genuine way?

01:02:26.680 I look to people like former presidents and family members of former presidents to talk about the great good fortune and the incredible wonder that was bestowed upon.

01:02:38.840 And I don't even care if it's sincere.

01:02:40.360 I don't either.

01:02:40.960 I just want them to say that as people who used to be in like that position of power for us.

01:02:44.780 Yeah.

01:02:45.060 He and she seem completely polar opposite.

01:02:47.200 I actually think Barack Obama is an optimistic, relatively sunny person in his messaging and in the way he experiences the world, especially himself.

01:02:54.620 But I just think in general, he's more, much more glass half full.

01:02:58.840 And she is, I don't know if you're born with that or if you're raised wrong with parents who encourage you to lean into grievance as opposed to look out the window.

01:03:06.820 So, um, I'll tell you just on, on the micro front, I had an experience you would appreciate.

01:03:12.800 Was it yesterday?

01:03:13.660 I came back from DC where we interviewed Tulsi and, uh, I took the train and I'm walking through the train station and this is actually down on the DC end.

01:03:21.800 And, and you know, it's dark and it's dank and it smells like oil and fumes and it's kind of unpleasant, you know, for a minute there where you're like, I'm, I think I'm actively causing my lung cancer right now.

01:03:32.500 And then I see this guy who was up on, I forgive me.

01:03:36.820 You probably know what this is called, but I don't, it looks like a crane.

01:03:39.040 It's one of those things that the telephone guys get up on.

01:03:41.160 It takes them to the top of the cherry picker.

01:03:42.600 Okay.

01:03:42.820 Yeah.

01:03:43.140 So he's up on one of those and he's working on the top of like, he's not on the top of a train.

01:03:47.980 He's on like the ceiling.

01:03:48.760 That's got like those rails and he's doing something dangerous and important.

01:03:52.360 And he looked young, Mike, he looked like 20 and he looked like he was having the time of his life.

01:03:58.680 He was laughing.

01:03:59.580 He's yelling down to a buddy down below.

01:04:01.280 They were joking.

01:04:01.940 He was smiling.

01:04:02.800 He was covered in dirt to your, you know, your, your life motto.

01:04:07.400 And, um, I thought, look at this guy in this dark, dank, smelly, dirty place with lots of danger, not just this cherry picker, but also the live rail that he's working on all the wires having a great time.

01:04:20.960 And then you look at her and she's still there.

01:04:24.260 They have to be billionaires by now.

01:04:26.260 Sure.

01:04:26.740 Out on the yachts, the Martha's Vineyard, $22 million estate, totally thriving young daughters who went to Harvard and USC.

01:04:33.700 It's never going to be good enough.

01:04:36.080 It's a, it's a mind frame, right?

01:04:38.600 It's like your choice of how you're going to go through this life.

01:04:41.020 So the night before I went to this event at the Ford museum, I was in the hotel bar at the Henry, which, uh, is there in Dearborn.

01:04:50.960 And coincidentally, I ran into the guy who's going to be interviewing me the next night and we're sitting at the bar, having a drink, getting to know each other.

01:04:57.960 And out of nowhere, 50 young men appear.

01:05:02.000 They had all been flown in by Ford.

01:05:04.320 These are master technicians and senior master technicians all over the country.

01:05:08.520 So once a year, they bring in the best of the best for a kind of a celebration.

01:05:12.720 It's a fun boondoggle, you know, for the cream of the crop.

01:05:16.000 Now these guys have memorized every episode of Dairy Jobs.

01:05:18.900 They grew up with it.

01:05:19.720 And, and, you know, I had to check myself because for, for a minute, I'm, I'm completely focused on this event I have to prepare for.

01:05:28.520 And here I am talking to the guy who's going to interview me.

01:05:30.560 And a kid comes up and he wants a selfie or whatever.

01:05:33.620 And I'd say, sure.

01:05:34.580 And I start to talk to him and his lip starts to tremble and he's got like a tear in his eye.

01:05:39.520 And he's telling me about the day he decided that he was going to be a mechanic and it was during an episode of Dirty Jobs.

01:05:46.360 And he applied for a scholarship from my foundation.

01:05:50.340 And now I'm sitting there like a big squish going, oh, it's just so great to hear.

01:05:56.260 And they, they stood up all 50 of them.

01:05:58.700 And I stood there for two hours and the whole evening went off the rails with the help of a little bourbon.

01:06:04.540 And, and I just listened to story after story, after story, after story of these men who, and three women among them, just to be clear, but it's still fundamentally a man's game.

01:06:17.360 These guys didn't go to college.

01:06:18.680 They learned a skill that was in demand and now they're killing it.

01:06:22.360 And there's the, the, this, I, I know I said I wasn't earnest or sentimental about it, but I swear to God, Megan, when you, when you sit there and listen to story after story of guys who,

01:06:34.040 who mastered a skill that was in demand and then went to work and now they're raising their families, many of them have no debt.

01:06:41.820 They're not saddled with some awful college millstone around their neck.

01:06:45.880 They're thriving and they're proud and they're hopeful.

01:06:50.040 And most importantly, they're enthused.

01:06:53.920 They're enthused.

01:06:55.040 And every, everything we've talked about so far is the first example is a perfect example of exaggerated and false enthusiasm.

01:07:06.320 The second one, when you're talking about Michelle Obama, it's just an absence of enthusiasm, just an absence of, of joy.

01:07:14.680 You know, and yeah, I guess we're making the same point, but my life today by and large, uh, is, is blessed primarily because strangers come up to me to tell me about the time they paid their dues to tell me about the time work mattered most to them.

01:07:32.520 And it, it's important for them to be heard.

01:07:36.500 And, and that's a big part of my job these days.

01:07:39.440 Well, you make it your business.

01:07:40.700 I mean, when I was watching episode one, uh, about Lindsay, L-E-N-Z-Y.

01:07:46.280 Yeah.

01:07:46.760 I thought this is such a great way to spend your time.

01:07:49.520 Like Mike Rowe makes good life decisions, which is why there's like this peacefulness to you.

01:07:54.040 There's this, you sort of emanate this positivity.

01:07:56.700 It's a champagne.

01:07:57.480 More, more than the average Joe, I have to say you do.

01:08:00.240 And like you make it a point of spending your life around these people.

01:08:03.200 And even like this, this poor woman talks to you openly about how for 10 years she was on meth.

01:08:09.880 Meth head.

01:08:10.660 And you were saying like, I didn't, I didn't know somebody had a story of 10 years on meth.

01:08:14.360 I didn't either.

01:08:15.040 Right.

01:08:15.300 Like I really didn't think, I thought you lost your teeth and then you lost your name and then you're never heard from again.

01:08:19.940 And then probably your life in most cases.

01:08:21.620 Yeah.

01:08:21.900 But she didn't lose her life.

01:08:24.680 She turned her life around and she devotes herself to helping other people now.

01:08:28.740 She found an organization called Care Portal and Care Portal is a virtual entryway into this legion of bloody do-gooders, oftentimes arranged around local churches, but not always.

01:08:44.100 And it's, it's a way to know when somebody in your community is really struggling.

01:08:51.040 And the, the overriding purpose is to try and keep families together.

01:08:55.040 The foster care system is a problem.

01:08:57.740 It's a shame.

01:08:58.220 It really is.

01:08:59.120 It's a, it's a necessary thing in many cases, but it's not a good choice.

01:09:04.580 If you, if you can keep a family together by hook or crook, you have to try.

01:09:09.380 And Care Portal has had unbelievable success at doing this.

01:09:12.800 And when I heard the story of this woman who very nearly lost everything, but Care Portal saved her.

01:09:19.860 And then now she's dedicated her life to Care Portal.

01:09:22.560 It's like, all right, I call the crew.

01:09:24.500 We go, we hang out with her.

01:09:25.900 We basically lied to her and tell her she's the subject of a documentary.

01:09:30.200 And, uh, and then.

01:09:30.800 But she's just like a cog in the wheel.

01:09:32.140 She's not special.

01:09:33.340 That's right.

01:09:33.860 And then at the end, we, we surprised her with an elaborate gift.

01:09:38.560 Are we allowed to say?

01:09:39.560 I wouldn't.

01:09:40.120 No, because.

01:09:41.020 Yeah, it's big.

01:09:41.940 It's big.

01:09:42.380 And look, people laugh and they cry.

01:09:45.300 And, and again, back to the earnest thing.

01:09:47.040 It's, it's impossible to talk about this topic and not be earnest, but the show itself is

01:09:52.200 not really a feel good show.

01:09:53.740 It's the making of a feel good show.

01:09:55.740 Well, I, what I love about it is you're very honest on it.

01:09:58.520 And that, of course, we've talked many times in the show about how, if you're not authentic

01:10:01.980 with this audience, you die.

01:10:04.180 Uh, and so you'll be like, that was boring.

01:10:06.780 Like, who says that in the middle of their own show?

01:10:09.820 Yeah.

01:10:10.040 Like it's sometimes in the middle of a sentence.

01:10:11.780 Like, yeah, I should not have started that sentence.

01:10:14.020 Cause I have no real clear understanding of how it's going to end.

01:10:16.160 You're very open with the audience about how you're experiencing the making of it.

01:10:19.960 Let's just look at a clip.

01:10:20.760 Uh, this is Lindsay in episode one.

01:10:23.720 I'm just Lindsay Phillips.

01:10:24.720 We're fighting the foster care system.

01:10:26.400 I'm just here for the cheap labor then load up the car.

01:10:28.580 Yep.

01:10:28.840 I was actually a family in need back in 2020.

01:10:31.640 I was not in a good place at all.

01:10:34.240 I was so elated of the help that I received that I just decided I really want to serve

01:10:39.440 in my community as well.

01:10:40.580 It's not transactional.

01:10:41.640 It's, it's transformative.

01:10:42.540 If it seems like we're making it up as we go along, that's because as we go along,

01:10:47.960 we're making it up.

01:10:49.820 She has no idea what's about to happen.

01:10:53.240 Oh my God.

01:10:55.160 Lindsay, Lindsay, Lindsay.

01:10:58.300 And it only gets better from there.

01:10:59.900 And it's not just Lindsay.

01:11:01.620 Can you talk about the guy with the beds?

01:11:04.040 Sure.

01:11:04.600 In this episode, the, one of the things that is at the top of the list in the care portal

01:11:11.320 is a need for beds.

01:11:13.380 So many kids sleep on the floor in this country.

01:11:15.680 Break your heart.

01:11:16.500 Well, years ago on returning the favor, which was the Facebook program on which this project

01:11:21.700 is based, I met a guy called Luke Mickelson, and he had an organization, still does, up

01:11:29.280 in Idaho called Sleep in Heavenly Peace.

01:11:32.800 He and his merry band of do-gooders, they make bunk beds and wooden beds, and they give them

01:11:38.260 to kids in the town.

01:11:39.640 No kid in Luke's town sleeps on the floor, right?

01:11:42.080 He had six chapters when we profiled him.

01:11:44.960 Today, he has over 400.

01:11:46.400 So the crazy thing about this show that isn't really a show is that it's, it's a window into

01:11:54.780 do-goodery and, and, and local kindness.

01:11:59.260 The same way Dirty Jobs was a rumination on honest work, this is a rumination on the neighbors

01:12:04.440 you wish you had.

01:12:05.480 And also, it's weirdly relevant, uh, to everything we've talked about, but the people that we

01:12:12.240 feature are obviously not supermodels.

01:12:16.600 They're not your classic aspirational, like, oh my God, I want to be just like that.

01:12:20.860 It's the opposite of blue origin.

01:12:23.220 These really are your neighbors.

01:12:25.340 These are just people who happened to give a damn and did something about it.

01:12:29.680 And the thing that I like most about it, when you, when you stack those examples together,

01:12:35.060 what it does is it, is it gently taps you on the shoulder and says, look, man, you don't

01:12:41.220 have to boil the ocean, but if she can do it, she was by her own admission, her own words,

01:12:47.440 Mike, I was a full on meth head.

01:12:48.940 It had me bad.

01:12:49.940 And when it came right down to it, I saw me losing my kids.

01:12:53.500 We're getting my shit together.

01:12:55.260 And she got it together.

01:12:57.000 And like in that moment, which she confesses to me, why would I, we have to pull over because

01:13:02.540 she's crying and we're on a highway.

01:13:04.080 And I'm like, oh, this is a hell of a way to get to the moment I want to get to, but

01:13:07.880 we get there.

01:13:08.980 And when she tells me what she tells me, I can hear it in my, you know, you've been in

01:13:13.540 the business forever.

01:13:14.480 You, you know, when it lands.

01:13:17.260 And by that, I just mean, I know people will watch this who will absolutely relate, maybe

01:13:23.860 not to her specific circumstance, but to that feeling of that's it.

01:13:28.900 I'm out of cards.

01:13:30.100 My back is against the wall.

01:13:31.520 There's no way out.

01:13:32.220 What's extraordinary too, is that she gets help.

01:13:35.620 She turns her life around and then she gives back.

01:13:38.500 I think it's probably very easy to just skip that last step and try to stay treading water.

01:13:44.200 Yeah.

01:13:44.580 You know, and, and worried that if you do try to help the next drowning man, you're going

01:13:48.420 to go down too.

01:13:49.000 Like they don't have the emotional reserves, a lot of folks to, to go back for the next

01:13:53.540 guy.

01:13:54.040 Well, here's the dirty little secret.

01:13:56.000 You don't, when you go back for the next guy, the guy you're saving is yourself.

01:14:02.840 And it's kind of an Ayn Randian way to think about altruism, you know, but I, I happen to

01:14:09.400 subscribe to it.

01:14:10.300 I think there's a righteous selfishness in this level of philanthropy.

01:14:16.480 And because most people I know are selfish, um, I don't shy away from that.

01:14:21.300 Yeah, it's fine.

01:14:21.900 Whatever your motivation.

01:14:22.600 If it makes you feel good to, to help your neighbor, well, that's not much different than

01:14:28.880 a fireman.

01:14:29.540 You, you interview those people who sign up to do that thing.

01:14:34.280 Yeah, sure.

01:14:35.080 They, they want to help their fellow man.

01:14:36.680 They want to make a difference, but many, many times you peel back the layers far enough

01:14:41.960 and you'll find somebody who's trying to help themself.

01:14:44.640 The masks come down in the plane.

01:14:46.520 When you lose the air pressure, job one, put it on your face first.

01:14:52.060 No, I know this as an astronaut.

01:14:53.580 Of course you do.

01:14:54.460 And as a fighter pilot, I learned it early on prior to all the vomiting, but you know,

01:14:58.880 it's a lesson that really, really sticks.

01:15:00.940 You're of, you're of zero use to the people around you.

01:15:04.020 If you, if you can't get your own poop in a group.

01:15:06.580 Okay.

01:15:06.860 Now you're obsessed with this, that you're back on the second bodily function and, and

01:15:10.940 I'm going to tie it all together now.

01:15:12.280 Cause I can move on to three if you want, but I don't know if it's that kind of shit.

01:15:15.080 I've got a crack team and this is, this is how, this is why I get paid the big bucks

01:15:19.660 here at the Megan Kelly show.

01:15:20.960 I will now tie together everything the audience has heard in the, in the last hour and a half

01:15:26.540 with this clip from when Mike Rowe interviewed astronaut Scott Tingle.

01:15:33.420 Here it is.

01:15:34.340 People just want to know how you poop, man.

01:15:36.500 And what is going on up there?

01:15:38.580 So the system is, is very complex.

01:15:42.180 So not only do we have to contain, but we, but we have to transport, you know, your, your

01:15:50.360 eliminations or your, your waste.

01:15:52.240 And to do that, we use airflow.

01:15:54.900 So there's airflow that comes in and around and, and pulls, transports your solid waste

01:16:00.860 into a bag that's perforated.

01:16:03.260 And, uh, uh, and then you, you, uh, gather the bag, you tidy it up and you throw it into

01:16:08.580 a bucket and you, and you keep the bucket tamped down because you don't have a whole lot of

01:16:12.680 storage space.

01:16:13.880 And, uh, uh, and then every, I don't know, seven days, six or seven days, depending on how

01:16:18.840 many crew are up there.

01:16:19.660 We've got a lot of crew up there now.

01:16:20.600 So maybe five days you have to replace those buckets and those buckets go onto a, a garbage,

01:16:25.900 uh, or onto a cargo, uh, vehicle that is taking garbage back.

01:16:29.820 And then it goes back to earth.

01:16:32.280 And most of the time for the garbage haulers burn up on entry and it just gets incinerated.

01:16:38.000 Okay.

01:16:38.560 For the listening audience, for the first half of that soundbite, Mike Rowe is listening

01:16:41.800 to him like he's watching the Gettysburg address.

01:16:44.300 The seriousness with which you listened, it would be, I really think you thought you're

01:16:50.500 going up into space the next day.

01:16:52.100 This is, this was issue number one.

01:16:53.840 You needed to work out before doing it.

01:16:55.840 It was funny.

01:16:56.360 If I remember as I was interviewing, I myself was personally overcome with the need and I

01:17:01.640 couldn't, I couldn't tear myself away.

01:17:03.200 So as you're watching that I'm wrestling with my own O-ring.

01:17:06.560 Wishing you had a perforated bag.

01:17:08.060 But let me tell you about that, that guy, that guy, Scott Tingle, um, humbled me in

01:17:12.860 a way.

01:17:13.400 I was in new Orleans and I got a call from NASA.

01:17:16.160 I'm shooting down there on something totally unrelated.

01:17:18.660 Scott was in the space station and once a month, NASA gives these guys a chance to make

01:17:25.700 a couple of phone calls, not, not to their family, but really to anyone.

01:17:29.920 Right.

01:17:30.700 And there's these special encoded iPads and NASA overnighted me one.

01:17:36.420 So I'm sitting in a hotel in new Orleans, getting through all these crazy codes and

01:17:40.900 uplinks and so forth.

01:17:42.240 And Scott Tingle had decided that he wanted to talk to me.

01:17:46.820 I was his, I was his phone call for the month surprise to you.

01:17:50.780 You didn't know him.

01:17:51.720 No, I'd never, I'd never heard of him, but, but, but with the name like Tingle, I'm going

01:17:56.740 to take the call.

01:17:57.800 So he's an astronaut.

01:17:59.040 He'd been up in the space station for months and we have this, that wasn't that interview.

01:18:04.040 That was a very private conversation and it, and it was all for the first time.

01:18:07.920 Yeah.

01:18:07.980 I mean, this is also private in a way, but I mean, what, what do you, if, if you're me,

01:18:13.760 what do you do with that?

01:18:14.740 You know, you're just living your life.

01:18:16.520 Compliment.

01:18:17.060 NASA calls.

01:18:17.760 There's an astronaut who wants to talk to you.

01:18:19.480 And so one of the questions I asked him in that conversation was if you got the call,

01:18:25.940 because he's got a family and he's a, he's an engineer, of course, and a real astronaut.

01:18:31.200 And he was a real fan of my foundation, which by the way, shameless plug last week for work

01:18:36.160 ethics scholarships, giving away 3 million bucks, microworks.org, go get some.

01:18:40.840 I say to him, Scott, if you got the call to go to Mars would, and that's as far as I got.

01:18:47.920 And he said, oh yeah, are you kidding me?

01:18:50.520 I'd go right now.

01:18:51.740 I'd leave from here right now.

01:18:54.420 That's a year out, nine months back.

01:18:57.260 If you got the telemetry, right?

01:18:58.960 Your family, he's like, no, look, I, I love my family more than anything, but I'm on this

01:19:04.580 earth or in this case off of it because I know who I am and I know what my mission is and I

01:19:10.460 know what my purpose is.

01:19:13.280 That's the word, Megan.

01:19:14.400 And if you're looking for a way to land this plane, what didn't that blue origin mission

01:19:21.720 have?

01:19:22.720 I know purpose, not really, you know, that's a purpose driven dude.

01:19:28.180 And for me, my life gets exponentially more enjoyable.

01:19:34.720 The more of those people that I meet such a nice compliment to you, Mike, that he chose

01:19:38.700 you.

01:19:38.900 What a very cool call to receive.

01:19:40.300 I, I, I am, I'm humbled every week by something, but that one actually took the wind out of

01:19:47.220 me.

01:19:47.440 Well, we were talking about this in the break privately, but I'm sure you'll talk about

01:19:52.900 it publicly here, but this is not the first time somebody has at random just called you

01:19:57.040 up and asked you to do something and you have no idea why they chose you.

01:20:02.000 Recently, I was once again on the time 100 list.

01:20:07.600 Oh, congratulations.

01:20:08.480 Yes.

01:20:08.840 Thank you very much.

01:20:09.580 They basically needed a conservative quota filled.

01:20:13.160 And so they, they do a writeup in time magazine about you.

01:20:18.340 And I knew that from the first time.

01:20:21.820 Yeah.

01:20:22.260 But the first time it happened, they actually asked me who I wanted to have write it up.

01:20:26.800 And I said, my boss, Brit Hume, and he did it.

01:20:29.320 But this time around, they never asked.

01:20:31.160 I figured out maybe they don't do those anymore.

01:20:32.540 I don't, whatever.

01:20:33.000 Then I read it, it hit online and it was Laura Trump who wrote it up.

01:20:37.820 A lovely, lovely little like blurb about yours truly.

01:20:42.520 She didn't tell me she was doing it.

01:20:43.840 I know her a little.

01:20:44.800 Yeah.

01:20:44.940 Not well.

01:20:46.900 I text her.

01:20:47.800 I mean, like, this is so kind of you.

01:20:49.400 She's very busy.

01:20:50.160 I'm like, I really, really appreciate it.

01:20:51.620 Like, very grateful.

01:20:53.100 Didn't have to do it, but you did.

01:20:54.940 You got one of these.

01:20:56.600 Well, you were also on the time 100.

01:20:58.980 Yes.

01:20:59.300 I was on the same list you were, just not as one of the most influential people.

01:21:04.720 I was one of the 100 people chosen to write about one of the most influential people, like Laura Trump.

01:21:11.000 And for whatever reason, time asked me to write 150 words, no more, no less, about Joe Rogan.

01:21:17.840 And I did.

01:21:19.000 So, but why?

01:21:19.780 And you don't know why you guys are not, like, really close, you and he?

01:21:23.060 I've done a show once and it went very well.

01:21:26.000 And what I said about Joe in my write-up was, I can't tell you that I enjoyed every moment of my interview with Joe Rogan, but that's only because he didn't interview me.

01:21:38.520 He talked to me.

01:21:39.820 And that's his secret sauce.

01:21:42.060 Yeah.

01:21:42.200 When he gets it right, and he often does, it's a conversation.

01:21:45.660 Yeah.

01:21:46.080 And I'll tell you, again, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but you can bullshit anybody for 20 minutes or an hour, maybe.

01:21:54.440 Probably not 90.

01:21:56.000 Definitely not two.

01:21:57.440 And you sure as hell can't do it for three.

01:21:59.760 So true.

01:22:00.500 So you get in the third hour of a conversation with the leader of a country or a CEO of a company, you're going to get a version of, you're going to get something authentic, for better or worse.

01:22:14.500 And, you know, I don't, I can't listen to his podcast all the time because I don't have three hours at a time to do it.

01:22:21.560 And for a long time, I kind of poo-pooed that.

01:22:24.320 But with this election and Trump's decision to go on and Harris's decision not to go on, that became apocryphal.

01:22:34.500 That was amazing to watch and determinative.

01:22:37.900 And I knew exactly what I wanted to say about Joe.

01:22:42.040 It was all about the third hour, the hour nobody listens to, but is nevertheless quite possibly the most consequential hour in media today.

01:22:50.920 It's very cool.

01:22:51.600 I mean, I do feel the need to point out once again with the poo-pooed, it's like an obsession.

01:22:57.720 Look, I know my audience.

01:22:59.360 And in this case, I know it's you.

01:23:01.140 And I know that deep down, you're an eight-year-old girl who just wants to pull my finger and see what might happen.

01:23:07.100 You have me figured out entirely.

01:23:08.980 This is why we bonded.

01:23:10.760 All right.

01:23:11.660 Sweet.

01:23:12.040 Stand by.

01:23:12.800 We're going to take a quick break.

01:23:14.020 I think you know where the conversation is going to go next.

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01:25:35.200 Mike, have you been following closely the first 100 days of the Trump presidency?

01:25:44.700 You know, closely, no, but I've been to D.C. probably half a dozen times since the inauguration.

01:25:50.480 In fact, I was there, not at the inauguration, but I was there that week.

01:25:53.960 And, of course, I've been watching, and I've never really seen so many otherwise intelligent pundits and commentators rendered so foolish, really, not because of their take, just because it's obsolete the next day.

01:26:11.600 Like, whatever it is you think you might know about a thing, just go ahead and put it on a shelf because we're not going to be talking about that tomorrow.

01:26:17.560 Well, it's funny you should say that because just yesterday we were doing the show and we were talking about how the news was that Mike Wallace was going to be fired as the national security advisor.

01:26:25.280 News Mark Halpern broke, but Politico later claimed that it broke, even though they were two and a half hours behind him.

01:26:29.920 And even when told, you're being disrespectful to Mark Halpern, who broke this news much earlier than you did, they refused to take down the tweet.

01:26:36.660 Totally on brand, Politico, you do not care what the facts are, and even when called out, you refuse to acknowledge them on your massive mistakes.

01:26:43.800 In any event, that's how we ended the show yesterday.

01:26:45.960 And within, like, five minutes of closing out the show, it hit that he was indeed being moved out of the position and over to U.N. ambassador.

01:26:53.780 So it's like the whole story changes in 24 hours.

01:26:56.280 It's a brand new, you know, theme story.

01:26:58.260 Marco Rubio filling in now as both, well, permanently for the time being, Secretary of State and National Security Advisor.

01:27:04.940 And now people are saying he's got the inside line on becoming the next pope.

01:27:10.840 That's just a joke.

01:27:12.280 He wears so many hats.

01:27:14.420 Right.

01:27:14.820 Why not the big one?

01:27:16.120 That's a big hat.

01:27:16.860 Yeah, really big.

01:27:18.320 So Marco Rubio's stock is up.

01:27:20.680 I don't know whether Mike Walls' stock is up.

01:27:22.940 I don't think it is.

01:27:23.820 I think this is Trump giving him a soft landing someplace.

01:27:28.580 There's rumors that this guy, Steve Witkoff, who's been an amazing envoy for Trump, negotiating peace in the Middle East, negotiating peace with Russia and Ukraine, is probably going to get it.

01:27:37.780 I don't know whether that's true.

01:27:39.700 But, yeah, to your point, you wait two minutes and the whole news cycle has changed.

01:27:43.940 I mean, it's really a question for you.

01:27:44.960 I mean, as somebody who's supposed to be offering analysis, if you don't have time to analyze a thing, or if the next thing comes along and trumps the last thing, no pun intended, then you shift from analysis to just what?

01:27:59.200 Traveled on on the window sill.

01:28:01.420 Yeah.

01:28:01.860 It's like a town crier.

01:28:03.160 It's like, and this.

01:28:04.620 Yeah.

01:28:04.880 And then this.

01:28:05.900 Well, you know, in news, Brit Hume told me this very early in my career because there's so much volume.

01:28:13.120 And I remember being in awe at the reporters and the anchors in particular who could go on the air and just vamp during breaking news.

01:28:19.980 There's no script.

01:28:20.620 There's no prompter.

01:28:21.520 There's no editorial.

01:28:22.660 You're just following, you know, like this plane is down in the Hudson River.

01:28:25.480 You know, who's this guy?

01:28:26.720 There are people coming out on the wing.

01:28:27.740 What's happening?

01:28:29.040 How can you do that?

01:28:29.960 How do these anchors do it?

01:28:30.880 And he said, just stay steeped in the news.

01:28:33.480 If you just stay steeped in the news, you'll be fine.

01:28:36.340 And he was so right.

01:28:38.560 You, even if it's a slow news day, you have to read everything, read all your papers, read all your online.

01:28:42.820 Right.

01:28:43.120 And favorite sites because news is so incremental.

01:28:45.380 So if you, if you have it baked in there and then you just get the next day's tiny developments, I know somehow it stays in there.

01:28:51.580 How's this for a callback?

01:28:52.820 The same thing is true with fighter pilots and astronauts who need to maintain their tolerance to zero gravity.

01:29:00.520 You have to, you have to exercise that muscle every day.

01:29:04.900 That Hick maneuver we were talking about.

01:29:07.180 It's a very violent, very extravagant thing for the novice to do because your body's not used to doing it.

01:29:14.540 But if you build up a tolerance to 7, 8, 9, 10 Gs, then you, you can get there like that.

01:29:21.780 You say, you stay steeped in the gravity.

01:29:26.180 Yeah.

01:29:26.680 That's where you want to live.

01:29:27.820 7, 8, 9, 10 Gs is crazy.

01:29:29.780 On the, on the zero gravity flight, it was like 1.8.

01:29:33.360 Oh yeah.

01:29:34.260 My friend, Matt Hagen drives funny cars.

01:29:36.580 He just went from zero to 340 miles an hour in under four seconds.

01:29:41.600 That's more Gs than anything.

01:29:43.980 You know what?

01:29:44.480 You know, it has a lot of Gs.

01:29:45.700 I don't know what the number is, but you ever go on the Aerosmith ride at Disney?

01:29:50.300 No.

01:29:50.800 It's the best roller coaster ever.

01:29:53.100 No, I haven't.

01:29:54.160 You sit in it, you get like the serious strap in, you know, from the automatic thing that comes down and then you kind of get sucked in.

01:30:00.820 You know, you're not going anywhere, which is nice.

01:30:02.440 You feel safe.

01:30:03.020 Sure.

01:30:03.360 And then instead of the normal roller coaster, which is like click, click, click, click, click, click, click, click, you know, up, up the hill, which is actually kind of fun and part of the anticipation.

01:30:10.820 You just take off like a bat out of hell.

01:30:13.100 Yeah.

01:30:13.320 And it's measured in Gs.

01:30:15.040 There's a thing.

01:30:16.180 My, my granddad was an electrical inspector, uh, for carnivals and, and state fairs most.

01:30:21.880 Oh, wow.

01:30:22.720 Midway.

01:30:23.140 So we got, we got endless free passes for all the rides.

01:30:26.320 It was one of the great.

01:30:27.020 Who would do that job?

01:30:28.060 That's the riskiest job ever.

01:30:29.480 You're a walking lawsuit waiting to happen.

01:30:31.880 I know.

01:30:32.160 But here's my pop and he, he didn't care.

01:30:34.440 Um, but I took a fistful of these tickets and there was a ride.

01:30:39.240 And I, I think it's illegal now, but it was called the hell hole.

01:30:43.860 And what happened is, uh, they changed the name of the roundup and they put cages in it.

01:30:49.260 But basically it's, it's, it's, imagine a wheel on its side.

01:30:52.980 We grew up with that in the seventies.

01:30:54.360 They probably banned that by now.

01:30:55.880 You stand there and it spins and it spins and it spins.

01:30:58.440 And then.

01:30:58.960 It's like a centrifuge.

01:30:59.820 That's right.

01:31:00.380 And then it turns 90 degrees.

01:31:02.440 Right.

01:31:02.800 And you're pinned to the wall.

01:31:04.760 Now, again, as a callback.

01:31:07.100 The vomit.

01:31:07.760 That's, you're going to the vomit.

01:31:08.660 One person vomits and it hovers there and everybody else just flies through it.

01:31:14.220 Oh my God.

01:31:14.680 And then more people, it was truly a vomit comet.

01:31:17.360 And when people, the most entertaining thing to do at the state fair for me was a kid.

01:31:22.980 Cause I don't get motion sick unless I'm upside down in an F-18.

01:31:26.980 But sitting there on a hay bale, watching people walk off the hell hole, just brushing

01:31:32.800 other people's vomit off them all day long.

01:31:35.860 I mean, look, it's a, it's cheap entertainment, but it really left a mark.

01:31:39.900 Not everyone can do it.

01:31:40.740 I've been laughing since last June.

01:31:42.840 We went to Scandinavia with the fam and we were there for almost two weeks.

01:31:47.380 We went to Sweden.

01:31:48.900 We went to a couple of other countries.

01:31:51.480 So when we were in, it was Denmark, we went to this amusement park.

01:31:57.340 It's pretty famous.

01:31:58.680 And it's reportedly the amusement park that Disneyland was based on.

01:32:02.420 Walt Disney went and Covent Gardens.

01:32:04.980 And it's so charming, completely adorable.

01:32:07.520 Like you want to move in there.

01:32:09.440 So we went and we got on this rollercoaster, which is called the Rutsjabannen, which I believe

01:32:15.400 is rollercoaster in Danish.

01:32:18.080 And, uh, it's, it was so tame that it only had the little like bar that comes down to

01:32:25.460 your lap, you know, just like the little silver bar.

01:32:27.620 That's all.

01:32:28.180 And so tame that it had an actual man who was about 200 who operated the manual brake while

01:32:35.440 riding it with you.

01:32:36.560 Right.

01:32:36.900 And so tame that the queen of Denmark, she, I think she recently like passed the baton

01:32:44.060 down to her son, who's now the king, but, um, she was riding it like when she was 84 years

01:32:49.540 old.

01:32:49.980 Okay.

01:32:51.120 But my husband, Doug, who, you know, does get some motion sickness.

01:32:57.440 He didn't throw up, Mike, but you know how you get the pictures after the fact of your

01:33:03.300 rollercoaster ride, I took one look at those family pictures and I almost split a side

01:33:10.120 open laughing.

01:33:11.100 So I was at a 90 degree angle.

01:33:12.500 I had projectile tears coming out of my eyes.

01:33:14.840 I was, went over to the guy at the booth and I'm like, whatever you want for it, I'll

01:33:18.120 pay it.

01:33:18.640 You name your price for that picture.

01:33:20.640 Doug never lived it down.

01:33:21.600 You know why I keep coming back to this?

01:33:23.800 I mean, I really haven't put a lot of thought into it, but now that I sit here in the wake

01:33:28.120 of this excellent conversation, contemplating the, the fragility, the frailty of the species

01:33:33.940 and the attendant humility there.

01:33:36.080 And it's just, when we lose control of the most basic things, whether it's this sphincter

01:33:45.540 or the other one, right?

01:33:47.360 There's just something so relatable.

01:33:50.800 I mean, it's, I know it's gross.

01:33:52.240 I know it's childish.

01:33:53.160 I know Dirty Jobs was kind of built on one of those pillars, but it's not just the spectacle

01:34:00.880 of it.

01:34:01.380 It, it really is a reminder that, that, that we are still the same, like, like nausea and

01:34:08.260 diarrhea.

01:34:09.080 Dare I say, these, these things reach across the aisle like, like no other idea.

01:34:13.520 Well, you know what then again, keeping with the theme of tying it all together, so did

01:34:17.500 Blue Origin.

01:34:18.440 It tied us together right and left.

01:34:20.460 I was out there agreeing with Amy Schumer and Olivia, what's her name?

01:34:25.480 Wilde.

01:34:25.760 Yeah.

01:34:26.180 Yeah.

01:34:26.360 She and I were on the same page.

01:34:27.880 Amazing.

01:34:28.640 On the, like it united the country in mocking their absurdity.

01:34:33.580 It really was something.

01:34:34.800 And also to your point.

01:34:35.680 What a public service they provide.

01:34:36.480 Truly, without meaningful, meaning to.

01:34:38.140 One of the things I love about watching the video of us on, on our space mission is how

01:34:46.440 much fun you can see the three of us are.

01:34:48.640 We had so much fun.

01:34:49.760 It was, you levitate, you're lying down on the ground and before you know it, you are,

01:34:55.280 look at that.

01:34:55.720 You are levitating up and you can fly.

01:34:59.120 You know, it's not like swimming.

01:35:00.620 I thought it would be like swimming and water, but there's no resistance.

01:35:03.840 And then you slam to the ground in a somewhat undignified heat.

01:35:08.920 Well, that's part of it, right?

01:35:10.680 I love the bit where Sarah kind of shows her chest, you know, mockingly, you know, making

01:35:16.600 fun of Lauren Sanchez.

01:35:17.960 Because what happens right after that is we fall on the ground and what you can hear in

01:35:21.880 like the raw clip and pretty much in this one too is me hysterical laughing saying, Sarah,

01:35:27.900 because in the moment I knew how funny it was.

01:35:31.120 So it's like, you're right.

01:35:32.120 So there's something happening with the three of us up there that is especially fun, joyful,

01:35:38.860 vulnerable in like a very great way because we're mocking others and ourselves.

01:35:43.520 And the same thing, like you're all subjected to the same law, right?

01:35:48.120 I mean, that's the beautiful thing about gravity.

01:35:49.600 Like no one's sitting there in possession of their faculties.

01:35:52.560 Well, right.

01:35:53.560 But like when you think about gravity, it's just, it's such a clarifying truth in a world

01:35:58.760 where you can identify as this or choose your own narrative or choose your own ending.

01:36:02.580 It's like gravity doesn't much care if you believe in it or not.

01:36:05.380 You lean too far back on that chair.

01:36:07.220 You're going down.

01:36:08.520 And no one cares.

01:36:09.420 Think about how crazy it would have been in that moment when you were on that zero G.

01:36:13.520 If you had been the only one who would levitate and everybody else just lay there like pinned

01:36:19.400 to the floor like a butterfly, you'd be like, oh no.

01:36:22.300 Or you'd be like, God, I'm so special.

01:36:24.320 I always knew it.

01:36:25.200 I'm the levitator.

01:36:26.660 You Luddites.

01:36:28.140 This is separating the wheat from the chaff.

01:36:30.300 Moments like that galvanize us and bring us together because there's still a few laws

01:36:35.260 to which we're all subject.

01:36:36.780 You know, this is reminding me, and they threw us jelly beans too, which you can see.

01:36:39.600 This is reminding me for some reason of the story that a woman told about Tucker Carlson,

01:36:43.980 who was on the show this week, and a dear friend.

01:36:46.140 I love him.

01:36:46.820 People say the nastiest things about him.

01:36:48.160 They really do, man.

01:36:49.080 But he is just truly one of the best men.

01:36:51.520 I absolutely adore him.

01:36:52.380 One of the best conversations I've ever had.

01:36:54.580 He's a great guy.

01:36:55.460 He's totally misunderstood by the media and probably willingly and the left.

01:36:59.700 But there was a great story about him before Trump's Republican National Convention speech.

01:37:06.620 Tucker spoke out there, as did many, you know, folks that you should know.

01:37:11.520 Yeah.

01:37:12.020 And he was backstage with a civilian who had been asked to speak about something.

01:37:16.520 I can't remember who it was.

01:37:17.560 Forgive me.

01:37:18.320 But he could tell that she was nervous.

01:37:20.320 She told the story.

01:37:21.400 He could tell that she was nervous.

01:37:22.660 And he sat down with her and introduced himself.

01:37:25.500 And they started chatting.

01:37:26.480 And she was talking about how nervous she was.

01:37:28.160 And he said, can we pray about it?

01:37:31.400 And Tucker's really just kind of coming into his own religiously.

01:37:34.420 He hasn't been exactly like a holy roller, forgive the term, but he's coming into it

01:37:39.000 like in full flower right now.

01:37:41.480 And so he held her hand and they said a prayer together.

01:37:45.500 And I just thought like, there's something so cool about like, they're both backstage.

01:37:49.740 They're both giving a speech.

01:37:51.080 Even Tucker probably had some nerves because that's a big one.

01:37:53.440 Sure.

01:37:53.780 And this regular gal whose name we don't know was feeling it overwhelmingly.

01:37:58.080 And then it's sort of like God sends you an angel to remind you like, everybody feels

01:38:02.220 this, you're not abnormal to feel nervous before a speech like this, but I got you.

01:38:06.660 And even if you fall on your face, like we're good people, there's, they're going to love

01:38:10.060 you even more, you know, if you screw it up.

01:38:12.040 So two things, first of all, that, that moment is happening right now, a million times over

01:38:19.020 all around the country.

01:38:20.800 People in a midst of some kind of crisis are being comforted or ministered to, uh, in any

01:38:26.880 number of ways by any number of, of, of others.

01:38:30.460 Um, and then there's that moment with a camera pointed at you and that's Heisenberg, right?

01:38:38.740 The act of observing a thing changes a thing in, in, in some way, the uncertainty principle,

01:38:43.320 I think that's, it's called.

01:38:44.700 And, and so now back to the audience, you know, what, what are we to make of a moment that

01:38:51.800 is rooted really typically anyway, in something that is, is very private and very personal?

01:38:59.480 Are we to think that, okay, this is, this is being willingly shared with us as I think

01:39:05.540 you think.

01:39:05.980 And frankly, I do too.

01:39:07.200 It's like that, that's honest and open and kind of brave because you're putting your,

01:39:10.800 if you're going to pray on the TV, you're going to take it in the neck from both sides.

01:39:14.900 We know that, but we also know that that can be an artifice too.

01:39:18.660 That can be pretentious.

01:39:19.780 Yep.

01:39:20.340 Anything.

01:39:21.120 That's why I'm wary of earnestness because I don't, it's hard to know, you know, when

01:39:27.340 a camera is in the room, what you're watching and it's, it, I've thought about it a lot since

01:39:32.720 Dirty Jobs.

01:39:33.420 Dirty Jobs is when it became real for me because it was a different way to make TV.

01:39:37.580 And I'm, I'm trying to do the same thing with this current project, but now, you know,

01:39:42.380 your brain will find what you tell it to look for.

01:39:44.760 And I look for those moments all of the time.

01:39:47.120 Who is being brave?

01:39:48.180 Who is being courageous?

01:39:49.780 Who really doesn't give a damn about like who really truly doesn't care that the camera's

01:39:55.840 there?

01:39:56.360 Those are the people you want to know.

01:39:58.220 And they're, they're very, very rare.

01:40:00.860 You know, that would have been a good title to the people you want to know people you should

01:40:04.840 know is the title before we end, because we're going to get cut off soon.

01:40:08.860 Did they go to YouTube and type in the real Mike Rowe and they'll find your channel?

01:40:14.180 Yeah, you can do that.

01:40:15.120 Or I think you just Google Mike Rowe YouTube.

01:40:17.280 You'll get there too.

01:40:18.040 But the real Mike Rowe will get you there.

01:40:19.380 Okay.

01:40:19.820 And oh God, I think I'm supposed to say like and subscribe.

01:40:22.640 They told me to do that.

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01:40:24.220 Oh God.

01:40:24.900 Smash that like button for Mike Rowe, everybody.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 02, 2025

Michelle Obama's New White House Complaints, and ＂Blonde Origin＂ Premieres, with Mike Rowe and the MK Media Hosts ｜ Ep. 1063

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