The Megyn Kelly Show - ＂Mildly＂ Positive Hantavirus U.S. Case, Biden Fights Audio Release, Hoosiers at WH： AM Update 5⧸12

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Tuesday, May 12th, 2026, and this is your AM

00:00:38.100 update. They're going to be here for at least a few days while we do assessments.

00:00:42.040 18 passengers from a cruise ship tied to a deadly hantavirus outbreak now being monitored

00:00:47.180 in the U.S., with one testing mildly positive for the disease. The suspect in last month's

00:00:53.700 White House Correspondents dinner shooting pleading not guilty as his lawyers argue the

00:00:58.220 prosecution is tainted by a conflict of interest. Former President Biden moving to block the release

00:01:04.460 of audio recordings from his memoir. Interviews that became evidence in the special counsel

00:01:09.840 Robert Herr classified documents investigation. This was a year that will live forever in the

00:01:15.000 hearts of Indiana football fans. And the undefeated national championship team,

00:01:20.300 Indiana Hoosiers visit the White House. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM

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00:02:25.740 rebate of up to $10,000. 18 passengers, 17 Americans, and one U.S.-British dual citizen

00:02:36.300 from the MV Hondias cruise ship at the center of a deadly Hantavirus outbreak now being monitored

00:02:42.580 at two U.S. health facilities. 16 brought to the University of Nebraska Medical Center,

00:02:48.580 home to both the National Quarantine Unit and Nebraska Biocontainment Unit.

00:02:54.000 One passenger currently in biocontainment, with top-ranking CDC official Captain Brendan Jackson

00:02:59.900 describing the case as, quote,

00:03:01.560 "...mildly positive because just one of two samples taken from that person indicated hantavirus."

00:03:08.980 That patient reportedly doing well and not showing any symptoms.

00:03:12.300 The Biocontainment Unit, a more specialized isolation facility,

00:03:16.480 uses negative air pressure systems, meaning air is pulled into the room but not allowed to flow

00:03:22.440 back out into surrounding areas, helping prevent any possible airborne spread. Two other passengers,

00:03:28.880 a couple, were sent to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta. One has mild symptoms and is receiving

00:03:34.800 care in Emory's biocontainment unit. The other is that person's partner and close contact,

00:03:40.220 now being monitored as a precaution. Hantavirus is carried by rodents and usually spreads to

00:03:46.200 humans through contact with infected urine, droppings, or saliva. This outbreak involving

00:03:52.120 the Andes variant, a rare and deadly strain that can also spread person to person through

00:03:57.860 prolonged close contact. At least three people tied to the ship have died. The passengers now

00:04:04.260 in the U.S. ranging in age from late 20s to early 80s. Health officials say the quarantine units

00:04:10.240 are more like a hotel room with Wi-Fi, exercise equipment, and comfortable lodging, allowing for

00:04:16.180 easy monitoring, including routine temperature checks. All of the passengers now facing a 42-day

00:04:22.460 monitoring window, with health officials deciding case-by-case whether they can safely complete that

00:04:27.800 period at home or need to remain under medical supervision. Captain Jackson at a press conference

00:04:33.840 yesterday describing what the next several days will look like for these passengers.

00:04:38.260 Right now, the folks, the passengers that are all in the sort of assessment phase,

00:04:44.460 they're going to be here for at least a few days while we do assessments

00:04:47.900 and then coordination from what happens next.

00:04:50.200 They certainly have the option to stay here for the entire 42-day period

00:04:53.760 if that's just the safest and most effective option for them.

00:04:58.020 There's going to be an individualized decision plan for them to determine

00:05:01.340 if it makes more sense for them to complete their 42-day monitoring period at home.

00:05:06.000 There's going to be a couple of things that go into that decision.

00:05:09.480 First and foremost, do they remain symptom-free?

00:05:11.860 But then also, do they have all the structures and support to be able to continue that period at home, making sure that they can be able to isolate in a separate part of a structure from anybody else, make sure that they can contact their health department, get tested if necessary, if they develop symptoms, or if they need a higher level of medical care, that that's available to them.

00:05:30.440 Captain Jackson also explaining why the CDC is casting a relatively wide net around possible exposure, even as officials stress that Hantavirus does not spread as easily as a respiratory virus like COVID.

00:05:44.820 There's guidance that you can look to specifically on our website about close contact and how that defines exposures.

00:05:50.480 Typically, we're talking about exposure specifically to bodily fluids, and that could include things like saliva.

00:05:55.260 So if you're sharing eating utensils, kissing, touching, those type of things.

00:05:59.120 It can also mean just being really, really close to that person for a fairly long period of time.

00:06:05.020 So we're calling that right now six feet for at least a cumulative number of 15 minutes.

00:06:10.360 I want to be clear, there's nothing magical about six feet.

00:06:12.960 It's not a force field, but it's a rough number that gives us a sense of how close somebody has been.

00:06:16.780 Fifteen minutes, again, it's a bit arbitrary, but it again gives some sense of how close someone has been.

00:06:21.000 And I think that's actually a fairly conservative approach, given how we know how the evidence we should have so far about how this virus has spread in the past.

00:06:29.660 President Trump yesterday from the Oval Office offering measured reassurance.

00:06:34.080 Now, the one thing with this one is that it's much harder to catch.

00:06:39.620 And we've had it for a long time. It's been around for a long time.

00:06:42.460 People are very familiar with it. So, you know, I hope it's fine.

00:06:46.480 All I can do is everything that a president can do, which is actually somewhat limited.

00:06:52.880 But it seems like it is not easy to spread.

00:06:59.160 In fact, it's in certain ways very hard to spread.

00:07:03.920 We've lived with it for years, many years, and we think we're in very good shape.

00:07:08.280 We're very careful.

00:07:08.960 And Nebraska has done a fantastic job.

00:07:11.400 They have a place there that those doctors are unbelievable.

00:07:15.760 the job they've done. Cole Thomas Allen, the 31-year-old suspect charged in last month's

00:07:23.320 shooting at the White House Correspondents' Dinner, pleading not guilty yesterday to all

00:07:27.920 four counts against him. Allen appearing in D.C. Federal Court in an orange jumpsuit,

00:07:33.300 handcuffed to a waist chain, and saying nothing during the hearing. His attorney,

00:07:38.060 public defender Tezra Abe, entering the plea on his behalf. The four counts against Allen,

00:07:43.860 attempting to assassinate the President of the United States, discharge of a firearm during a

00:07:49.380 crime of violence, transporting a firearm across state lines, and assaulting a federal officer

00:07:54.640 with a deadly weapon. That last charge, newly added Tuesday by a federal grand jury in connection

00:08:00.440 with the shooting of a Secret Service agent. Investigators say a pellet pulled from the

00:08:05.100 agent's vest matches buckshot allegedly fired from Allen's shotgun. The case now assigned to

00:08:11.800 Trump-appointed U.S. District Judge Trevor McFadden. Prosecutors also telling the court

00:08:17.200 they expect to begin turning over the first batch of evidence to the defense by the end of the week.

00:08:22.860 Allen's legal team also seeking to remove U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro, her office,

00:08:27.980 and Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche from the case, arguing they have a conflict of interest.

00:08:33.680 In a court filing, the defense noting Pirro and Blanche were both in the ballroom when the shots

00:08:38.200 were fired and citing Pirro's personal friendship with President Trump. From the motion, quote,

00:08:43.940 how can the American justice system permit a victim to prosecute a criminal defendant

00:08:48.440 in a case involving them? Pirro, in an interview with CNN earlier this month,

00:08:54.100 rejecting the idea that her presence at the dinner should force her off of this case.

00:08:58.300 I want to ask you this with all due respect. You were a guest at the dinner. Yes. And potentially,

00:09:04.440 god forbid a target right you're in the administration right has it been suggested

00:09:09.020 to you at any point by anyone that maybe you need to recuse yourself because you were both a witness

00:09:13.920 and a potential target absolutely not i mean there is no way i mean that that would be like

00:09:18.520 telling witnesses that you know you can't testify at the trial because you were there the truth is

00:09:23.800 that there were 2500 of us who were there and my ability to prosecute this case has nothing to do

00:09:29.840 with my being there. The court directing the DOJ to respond to the motion by June 22nd.

00:09:35.680 Legal scholar Jonathan Turley yesterday on Fox News saying Allen's bid to remove Piro from the

00:09:40.960 case is unlikely to succeed. I don't think it's going to go anywhere. The most that they can

00:09:45.700 likely hope for here, Jillian, is this have the judge issue some type of gag order or some

00:09:52.240 clarification about public statements to be made. I don't think the fact that she's a friend of the

00:09:56.640 president will work? I mean, you had Eric Holder, who called himself the wingman of President

00:10:03.080 Obama. That didn't result in widespread motions to have him removed from cases.

00:10:10.820 Allen is scheduled to return to court June 29th for a status conference.

00:10:16.680 Coming up, former President Biden moving to block the release of audio recordings from his

00:10:21.940 conversations with the ghost writer of his memoir. And the national college football champions,

00:10:28.320 the Indiana Hoosiers, visit the White House without their star player.

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00:11:33.360 your discount. That's promo code MK at takelean.com. Former President Joe Biden is preparing

00:11:41.080 to attempt to block the release of audio recordings from his 2017 interviews with

00:11:46.380 the ghostwriter behind his memoir, Promise Me Dad. The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think

00:11:52.480 tank filing suit in March 2024 in federal court in Washington, D.C. under the Freedom of Information

00:11:59.220 Act, seeking roughly 70 hours of recordings and transcripts from Mr. Biden's conversations with

00:12:05.540 author Mark Zwanitzer. Separately, the House Judiciary Committee also asking the Justice

00:12:11.260 Department to turn over the same materials. The recordings obtained by Special Counsel

00:12:16.400 Robert Hur during his investigation into Mr. Biden's handling of classified documents

00:12:21.920 after leaving office as vice president. Investigators finding classified materials

00:12:27.520 at Mr. Biden's Wilmington, Delaware home and at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.

00:12:33.000 from his time as vice president and senator.

00:12:36.540 One of the most damaging findings in her's report,

00:12:39.660 centering on President Biden's recorded conversations

00:12:42.120 with Zonitzer.

00:12:43.960 According to the report,

00:12:44.960 Mr. Biden read aloud from notebooks

00:12:46.800 investigators later determined

00:12:48.480 contained classified information.

00:12:51.040 In one quoted exchange,

00:12:52.380 President Biden telling the ghostwriter,

00:12:53.920 I just found all the classified stuff downstairs.

00:12:58.180 Her ultimately declining to bring criminal charges

00:13:00.500 against then-President Joe Biden,

00:13:02.300 The final report, released in February 2024, concluding that a jury would likely see Mr. Biden

00:13:08.120 as, quote, a sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory. President Biden denying

00:13:14.300 at the time that he shared classified information, telling reporters, quote, guarantee you, I did not.

00:13:20.600 In a Friday court filing, the DOJ writing that it intends to release partially redacted versions

00:13:25.700 of the ghostwriter recordings and transcripts to Heritage and to the House Judiciary Committee.

00:13:31.600 But the DOJ also indicating Mr. Biden's lawyers have advised the department

00:13:35.440 that he intends to intervene in the case to prevent the disclosure.

00:13:39.620 Today marks the deadline for Team Biden to take that legal step.

00:13:43.640 Biden's spokesperson T.J. Ducklow telling Politico in a statement,

00:13:46.860 President Biden cooperated fully with Special Counsel Herr

00:13:50.720 and agreed to provide audio tapes of conversations with his biographer for a book

00:13:55.300 about his deceased son on the condition that they would not be made public.

00:14:00.440 Ducklaw adding, quote,

00:14:01.680 The DOJ themselves have said these tapes serve no public interest.

00:14:06.240 We spoke with Mike Howell, president of the Oversight Project,

00:14:09.560 a nonprofit government watchdog group.

00:14:11.980 The Oversight Project beginning this effort while it was still under the Heritage Foundation umbrella

00:14:16.520 and now continuing to partner with the think tank in the legal fight.

00:14:20.540 Howell tells us what he expects the tapes to reveal.

00:14:23.240 I think it's pretty obvious that Joe Biden was very faulty and not of sound mind.

00:14:29.440 And so I expect this is an embarrassing recording for him, which is the motivation behind trying to fight for the release.

00:14:36.360 It'll help, you know, paint a fuller picture of, you know, when the decline started and how bad it was.

00:14:42.680 I also think it'll add context to how the, you know, then former vice president was illegally holding and using classified information, perhaps for private financial gain.

00:14:56.260 Because keep in mind, the reason he wrote this book is because, and this is in the record,

00:15:01.380 Joe Biden was embarrassed that they didn't have enough money.

00:15:04.880 You had Hunter running around and making all the money.

00:15:07.220 And so he paid somebody to write a book for him.

00:15:11.080 And I think he was flipping secrets around in order to have a juicier book.

00:15:15.580 Howell says after years of litigation, Team Biden is only moving to object now,

00:15:20.700 just as the tapes appear close to release.

00:15:23.200 This case has been going on for years.

00:15:25.160 And now that it's on the eve of being released, they're just seeking to extend that.

00:15:30.120 Jeff Clark, our VP for litigation here, said he's never seen in his 30 years of practicing a more obvious delay tactic than this.

00:15:38.300 It reeks of politics. I mean, right now, going into midterms, there's been some articles written about how Biden intends to assert himself more in the political process.

00:15:47.980 And I think they just finally figured out, like, hey, if, you know, they're going to be trotting out Joe Biden again and they're going to have a probably pretty embarrassing story coming out.

00:15:57.860 They don't want those two things to happen at the same time.

00:15:59.800 And so their lawyers put two and two together and then decided, oh, holy smokes, we should try to delay the release of this tape even longer.

00:16:08.240 For Howell, the fight over these tapes now becoming part of a larger question about transparency, accountability and how the Biden White House operated.

00:16:17.220 I'll say that the banner of how this country was run by an auto pen for four years

00:16:21.660 still remains one of the greatest constitutional scandals in American history. 0.99

00:16:25.760 I know that it's kind of lost the spotlight a little bit in recent years with how quickly news moves,

00:16:32.200 but we need to return as a country focused to this issue because, you know,

00:16:36.220 for all of the talks going on right now about attacks on democracy, this attacks on democracy, that,

00:16:40.920 there's been nothing more undemocratic than a president, you know, an entire branch of

00:16:46.220 government rather being outsourced to staff using an auto pen. And so when we have potential pieces

00:16:52.780 of evidence like a long recording of Joe Biden with his ghostwriter, there's no reason that

00:16:58.980 should not be in the public record and should not be used to inform solutions to ensure something

00:17:03.340 like this never happens again. The 2025 college football playoff champions, the Indiana Hoosiers,

00:17:10.920 visiting the White House yesterday, celebrating the program's first national title and a perfect

00:17:16.280 16-0 season after defeating Miami 27-21 in the championship game back in January.

00:17:25.220 President Trump, who was at the championship game, welcoming the team and head coach

00:17:29.740 Kurt Signetti to the White House.

00:17:32.140 This is an honor. I watch that game. I watch these guys. They can play. They can play.

00:17:38.760 and they were a little underestimated but i just said but not anymore they're not underestimated

00:17:45.200 anymore they were incredible talents so today it's my great honor to welcome the 2025 college

00:17:52.200 football national champions the indiana university hoosiers this was a year that will live forever

00:17:59.660 in the hearts of indiana football fans it was an exciting year for football but maybe you're the

00:18:05.480 biggest story. I think, Coach, you're the biggest story. There's no story like this.

00:18:09.600 Kurt Sigden has turned out to be, I believe, I think he's the coach of the last decade because

00:18:16.340 he took a team. Nobody knew him. Nobody knew the team. And he ended up taking this team all the way.

00:18:22.660 Notably absent from the celebration, Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Fernando Mendoza,

00:18:27.500 the relentlessly positive star who helped turn Indiana's title run into a national story with

00:18:33.500 his inspirational post-game interviews. Mendoza going on to become the number one overall NFL

00:18:39.560 draft pick for the Las Vegas Raiders. Mendoza previously confirming to reporters that commitments

00:18:45.640 to his new team meant he would miss out on the celebration. I'm on the bottom of the totem pole

00:18:51.040 here. I got to prove myself. I can't, I can't mispractice. As a rookie, I don't think that's

00:18:56.500 a good look. And I want to, you know, try to best serve my teammates. And I don't know if I'd be

00:19:00.980 accomplishing that goal. President Trump at the White House still taking a moment to recognize

00:19:05.400 the Hoosiers' absent star quarterback. Now, the reason he's not here, he was so nice he called

00:19:10.780 because he has actually, J.D. is a big fan of ours. You wouldn't believe it because he didn't

00:19:16.200 show up. I'm not happy, but that's OK. The reason he didn't, because he's at spring training, right?

00:19:23.160 Correct. No, he's been great. And he's at spring training like his first day or something. I said,

00:19:27.640 you better go there. If he was not here for other reasons, like he didn't like Trump or he didn't

00:19:34.440 want to come, I wouldn't even mention him. I'd go through the hole and talk about how great,

00:19:38.640 I wouldn't even mention the quarterback's name. But he's a great guy, actually. And he is actually

00:19:43.460 a big fan of what we're doing for our country. But he became Indiana's first ever Heisman Trophy

00:19:49.660 winner. Right, Coach? The team gifting President Trump a custom jersey, helmet, and football

00:19:56.400 before getting a tour of the Oval Office.

00:20:01.680 And that'll do it for your AM Update.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 12, 2026

＂Mildly＂ Positive Hantavirus U.S. Case, Biden Fights Audio Release, Hoosiers at WH： AM Update 5⧸12

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