The Megyn Kelly Show - Most Bizarre Met Gala Moments, Why Blake Lively Settled, and CRAZY New JP Morgan Exec Story Details, with Red Scare ｜ Ep. 1310

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00:01:00.800 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.500 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:01:15.600 A massive show for you today, including our take on the settlement between Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni

00:01:22.040 that broke yesterday afternoon, shortly after we went off the air.

00:01:27.140 I've got a lot of thoughts on this.

00:01:28.920 I'm pretty sure I know exactly why it happened, and I have a prediction.

00:01:33.600 Things are only going to get worse for Blake Lively from here, and we'll walk you through why.

00:01:37.740 But first, last night was the 2026 Met Gala,

00:01:42.740 where out-of-touch elites get to show off their bizarre fashion choices,

00:01:47.500 often with hidden messaging for us peons to ponder.

00:01:50.760 This year's theme was costume art. It's basically a dress code of fashion is art. Don't understand

00:02:00.120 it? No one does. You're not supposed to. It's just supposed to make them feel better than you

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00:03:36.220 and mock this year. It was very hard to know where to start, but we will begin with the 67-year-old

00:03:42.560 Madonna, okay, who ditched her signature blonde curls and lingerie in favor of a more gothic, 0.98

00:03:49.260 witchy, shipwrecked look. Look at her. At least she has clothes on. The ship on her head 1.00

00:03:57.220 had a scarf so long it needed its own payroll. Seven people carried it. Seven to carry the train 0.94

00:04:05.220 from the ship on her head. She was also carrying a horn instrument for some reason. I don't know

00:04:14.240 why. Again, it's not for you to understand. It's just to confuse you and ideally for you to feel

00:04:20.140 dumb because you don't get it because you're not Madonna or Anna Wintour. We're going to get right 0.92

00:04:26.280 to probably the worst, the absolute worst. I mean, honestly, just when you think Lena Dunham

00:04:32.900 cannot get any homelier. She shows up at the Met Gala after a seven-year absence from the public

00:04:38.820 eye, a seven-year delightful absence. And she's shaved off her eyebrows and seems to have gained

00:04:45.840 even more weight. Not only that, but her enormous shins and calves are covered in some sort of weird 0.91

00:04:53.320 marks. She's got obviously some sort of a skin condition. They don't appear to be bruises. 1.00

00:04:58.160 It's like, I don't know, weird little warts or moles or like, I have no idea what's going on.

00:05:06.460 But in addition to her other obvious problems, she appears to have some sort of a skin condition on these very large legs. 0.99

00:05:13.700 She's got calves that look like thighs.

00:05:15.600 I'm sorry. 1.00

00:05:16.560 She's the one leaning into her obesity.

00:05:19.200 We're just being subjected to it. 0.70

00:05:22.060 She did embrace the year's theme in the form of a red feathered and sequined Valentino gown.

00:05:29.200 And again, shaved off her eyebrows. 0.81

00:05:32.020 That literally looks good on no one. 1.00

00:05:34.040 Stop doing that, women of America. 1.00

00:05:37.640 It's amazing because you had, and I'll get to Nicole Kidman in a second, but Nicole Kidman showed up in red sequins and was, of course, stunning. 1.00

00:05:44.940 But I have some thoughts on her.

00:05:45.960 And then this was like, you know, like if Nicole Kidman was like an angelic figure, this was like demonic.

00:05:54.940 I mean, Lena Dunham, she looked like a stuffed sausage in the thing.

00:05:59.340 It was just so unflattering. 1.00

00:06:02.580 A corpulent lady can look decent. 1.00

00:06:05.860 It is not like that is not possible. 1.00

00:06:07.740 She just chose to assault us visually with this gown, which looks like something my housekeeper uses on my kitchen pantry shelves.

00:06:19.080 Just look at it. 1.00

00:06:21.760 She can't even make it up the stairs. 1.00

00:06:24.360 I don't know if that's because of her size, her being out of shape or her dress, which, you know, went down so low. 1.00

00:06:32.700 Maybe it gave her like the little geisha legs. 0.96

00:06:35.180 I have no idea.

00:06:35.920 I didn't really mean to say little legs because that's not what we were seeing.

00:06:39.440 But Lena Dunham, I forgive you, but it was tough for me to get there. 1.00

00:06:45.300 Model Heidi Klum made a fool of herself.

00:06:47.780 She loves a good costume, but this look was apparently inspired. 1.00

00:06:52.160 Look at this.

00:06:54.180 Look at this.

00:06:56.040 I don't actually know what's going on here.

00:06:58.300 It had something to do with the Acropolis and like one of the handmaidens of the Acropolis.

00:07:05.920 I'm not sure what that means.

00:07:07.940 I was recently at the Acropolis, and I don't remember anybody who looks like that anywhere.

00:07:13.460 Like, look at her.

00:07:17.620 She looks kind of like a white version of the Statue of Liberty.

00:07:22.080 So she told Vogue that after getting inspired by the 1846 sculpture Veiled Vestal, she wanted to, quote, become her.

00:07:32.220 And so she transformed herself into a Livingstone sculpture.

00:07:34.580 She told Vogue, I look hard, but I'm soft.

00:07:38.260 It's foam and latex.

00:07:39.880 You don't look recognizable, which I mean, you know, it's kind of it defeats the point of what Anna Wintour wants, which is for all of us to be noticing that the A-level celebrities and how fashionable they are.

00:07:55.680 I think that's probably I just answered my own question. 0.99

00:07:58.260 No offense to Heidi Klum. 0.99

00:07:59.300 She seems like a nice person, but she is not an alias celebrity. 1.00

00:08:01.940 She'll show up to the opening of an envelope. 0.98

00:08:04.380 She's basically on every singing reality show as just, you know, your basic good-looking guest.

00:08:09.020 I mean, honestly, she's not really even a star.

00:08:12.200 So I guess it makes sense to go completely unrecognizable. 0.97

00:08:16.400 One of the most criticized looks of the night was former astronaut Katy Perry. 0.91

00:08:21.320 She chose a rather unconventional look, though it was kind of a cheat from Kim Kardashian's look a couple of years ago. 0.83

00:08:28.060 she was sporting a white Stella McCartney gown with a long train, a face full of metal.

00:08:37.360 Okay, so like a full metal mask. I mean, honestly, Kim Kardashian did this a couple years ago 0.95

00:08:42.540 where she had a mask that hit her face. Like, do you really want to be following a Kardashian

00:08:47.120 on the style choices? Like, you know, but maybe she does because she's, you know, good friends

00:08:53.340 with Lauren Sanchez, who is good friends with all the Kardashians. So it's possible she doesn't

00:08:57.360 find that shameful. She had matching white gloves for the face mask. The gloves were,

00:09:01.840 of course, six fingered. Was that a nod to her treason trip to outer space and what she saw?

00:09:08.640 Did she see aliens during her 12 minute trip up and back down? Have you been?

00:09:13.920 Okay. People Magazine reports that the weird mask was a nod to Perry's public performance

00:09:20.780 as art. It was a, it was a nod. You see here she is on the steps leading in. Um, and it was designed

00:09:28.500 to be quote, a literal and symbolic reflection that invites the observer to consider that their

00:09:34.040 perception of others can mirror their own internal war world and conversely mask truth.

00:09:38.960 It's a long way of saying, stop writing mean things about me. I'm an absolutely lovely person

00:09:45.840 And I don't want to be bullied for allegedly shoving my vag in some unsuspecting young woman's face to the point where the woman vomited and a criminal investigation into me is now underway in Australia.

00:09:57.540 That's OK. Yeah, that's your issues reflecting on you from my mask.

00:10:03.940 Actress Sarah Paulson, this is she was the AOC of this year's Met Gala. 0.55

00:10:09.080 She wore a dollar bill mask made out of leather to reflect the 1% being blinded by money. 0.99

00:10:16.120 Fucking, are you kidding me? 1.00

00:10:17.600 This woman's worth at reportedly over $12 million. 1.00

00:10:19.960 I guarantee you it's more like $30 million she's worth.

00:10:22.900 The designer said the collection was a reflection of the greed and corruption that comes with extreme power.

00:10:30.020 The Met Gala costs roughly $100,000 per person.

00:10:34.960 If you were to buy a table, it's $350,000.

00:10:39.500 So just stop with the lectures on elitism and wealth from the people who attend this thing.

00:10:46.120 The stars don't pay.

00:10:47.700 You get invited, you know, by Anna or by somebody who bought a table.

00:10:52.700 Anna has to approve those too.

00:10:54.620 So like if you're Estee Lauder and you swoop in and buy a table for $350,000, you can't just invite who you want.

00:11:00.800 Anna Wintour has to tell you who from your company can come.

00:11:03.480 What self-respecting businessman would agree to this?

00:11:07.260 Grow a pair.

00:11:08.360 Honestly, it's like so humiliating.

00:11:11.540 So in any event, they still want to lecture us on money.

00:11:13.940 Okay, you're at the Met Gala.

00:11:17.000 Get a clue. 0.94

00:11:19.200 Also sporting a blindfolded look, actress Rachel Zegler, you know, the woke Snow White.

00:11:26.280 She was in the 2022 live action remake for Disney. 0.97

00:11:30.180 She decided Snow Woke, yeah, that's what she should have been called.

00:11:33.460 It wasn't woke enough. 0.97

00:11:34.860 Calling the original, quote, extremely dated when it comes to the ideas of women being in roles of power. 1.00

00:11:39.960 Look at her bizarre movements with her arms in her mouth. 0.97

00:11:42.660 Look at this. 0.99

00:11:44.680 What even is this?

00:11:45.860 I don't really know what she's doing.

00:11:48.680 She's in an outfit that she says was inspired by the 1833 painting The Execution of Lady Jane Grey.

00:11:55.860 Gray was beheaded by Queen Mary I. 0.61

00:12:00.360 She's blindfolded because they're going to chop her head off? 0.97

00:12:04.420 Okay.

00:12:05.960 Some of her fans believe that this was a reference to her own encounter with cancel culture

00:12:12.280 and how she was wrongfully scapegoated. 0.98

00:12:15.280 For being a fucking annoying person, how is she wrongfully scapegoated? 1.00

00:12:18.960 She is annoying, and we all called her out on it. 1.00

00:12:22.260 Then there was the very bizarre.

00:12:24.120 This guy's so freaky and bizarre.

00:12:26.060 I won't listen to his songs.

00:12:27.300 Like very few people, when their songs come on the radio,

00:12:29.860 I'll make an active effort to press, you know,

00:12:32.420 forward or rewind or skip.

00:12:34.520 This guy's one of them because he's so creepy 0.83

00:12:37.120 and disturbing and obsessed with the sexualization 0.98

00:12:40.380 of children in some imagery, devils, 0.86

00:12:45.400 his own enormous, he makes Lena Dunham look like Twiggy.

00:12:50.420 And that's 33-year-old British pop star, Sam Smith. 0.99

00:12:53.480 He's disgusting. He describes himself as non-binary. He goes by they, them, of course. 1.00

00:13:00.340 So he naturally showed up wearing a dress, an embellished black gown weighing 52 pounds.

00:13:06.240 And let me tell you something. He didn't need any extra pounds put on him. Okay.

00:13:09.920 His coat was adorned with over 230,000 crystals and beads, hand placed by a team of 45 artisans,

00:13:17.540 over 800 hours of work. Imagine, imagine like having to work on one of these gowns and thinking,

00:13:24.460 oh my God, who am I getting? Am I getting Nicole Kidman? You know, am I getting like Zendaya? No, 0.60

00:13:29.980 you're getting the fat they, them, Sam Smith, devil worshiper. Oh my God. Now this is Hunter 0.99

00:13:37.860 Schaefer. Hunter is a 27 year old man dressing up as a woman for the red carpet. Schaefer is an

00:13:46.400 actor on the HBO show Euphoria, he showed up in a Prada gown inspired by a painting of

00:13:52.200 a nine-year-old girl. Why is a man showing up to the Met Gala depicting a little girl?

00:14:01.560 You're fucking sick, okay? You're sick. Sam Smith is sick. Anna Wintour is sick. And by the way, 1.00

00:14:08.560 Lauren Sanchez Bezos, as an honorary chair of this event, which you paid $10 million to be,

00:14:13.980 Are you okay with this? Like, do you actually sanction a grown man showing up dressed as a single digit girl? Fuck these people. Honestly, they're so out of touch. Anna Wintour, the 76 year old Anna Wintour, you're good with this? Is that art to you? The exploitation of little girls by grown ass men? What part of high fashion are we not getting here? Because we don't want any part of it.

00:14:38.920 then there were the moments that we're supposed to just like witness but not say anything about

00:14:44.500 this one's truly bizarre everyone's like talking about it but they're like they're they don't want

00:14:49.100 to actually say what they're thinking uh this is aaron rose philip philip's being lauded as

00:14:55.000 making history at the met gala for being and this is not a joke the first african-american

00:14:59.480 transgender model with cerebral palsy in a wheelchair no less to attend the event i mean

00:15:04.800 like is she a lesbian that's that i think that's the only thing she's missing she is she a lesbian

00:15:11.480 this is like okay we all know what they're doing here she was born in antigua raised in the u.s

00:15:19.840 she's 25 years old it says she or he i don't know i'm not i don't know it's a trans person

00:15:28.800 i i have no idea what the natural sex is and as you know i like to go by normal

00:15:33.640 like natural biological pronouns.

00:15:35.640 But I got to be honest,

00:15:36.240 I have no idea what they are here.

00:15:37.840 This person was signed

00:15:39.040 by Elite Model Management in 2018.

00:15:41.900 This person has been featured

00:15:43.180 on the cover of Vogue.

00:15:44.980 Billboard Chris on X,

00:15:46.200 who we love,

00:15:47.020 who stands up to the trans mania

00:15:48.660 like nobody else,

00:15:49.900 writing, quote,

00:15:50.460 the trans industry never found a person 0.83

00:15:52.300 they will not use and abuse 0.63

00:15:54.260 for profit and propaganda. 0.98

00:15:56.240 They'll even give cross-sex hormones

00:15:58.120 to a quadriplegic with cerebral palsy.

00:16:01.960 I can't.

00:16:03.060 Okay. 0.96

00:16:03.640 This is it's ridiculous. 1.00

00:16:07.460 OK, we also had to endure the women who will go to extreme lengths to never age. 1.00

00:16:13.840 I'm talking extreme. 1.00

00:16:15.640 76 year old Vera Wang showed up. 1.00

00:16:19.420 Dressed as a 10 year old boy, I think that was her costume.

00:16:22.340 I'm a 10 year old boy. 0.50

00:16:23.880 I mean, I have a 12 year old boy, so I know what the torsos of young boys look like.

00:16:27.940 And this is it.

00:16:29.420 Absolutely no breasts.

00:16:31.240 Absolutely no waist.

00:16:32.860 Just a rectangular torso.

00:16:36.160 This is before a young boy's shoulders have grown outward.

00:16:39.940 And that's what she looks like. 0.54

00:16:41.320 She looks like a pencil. 0.96

00:16:42.760 Straight up and down. 0.64

00:16:44.640 Just a pencil.

00:16:46.020 Made of lead.

00:16:47.360 Absolutely no curves.

00:16:49.320 I guess she's just the middle of the pencil. 0.98

00:16:51.780 The tip top would be curved, her head.

00:16:53.620 But she looks terrible. 0.95

00:16:56.160 Honestly, she's got a little, like a, it looks like a chest binder. 0.99

00:16:59.420 Except she has no breasts, really, to bind. 1.00

00:17:01.540 Vera Wang is flat chested. That's fine. She's leaning in. I guess this is the new thing. We're 1.00

00:17:06.380 supposed to lean into the super flat chested look. It's gross. I'm sorry. It's gross. Her hair is 0.88

00:17:11.720 bleach blonde. She's like all skin, skin and bones with one arm and a puffy black sleeve. Move on, 0.89

00:17:19.040 Vera. Move on. Okay. Lauren Sanchez Bezos. I have to be honest. I expected more. I thought 0.96

00:17:30.040 At least she'd have some, like, sort of big fashion statement that we would be like, oh, okay, you know, cool, whatever. 0.95

00:17:36.900 No, this is, she could have worn this anywhere.

00:17:39.280 This is so boring.

00:17:40.700 It's like a blue dress with, it's, you know, it's not topless.

00:17:46.020 It's, you know, strapless. 1.00

00:17:48.900 It's got a V to show off her enormous fake breasts. 1.00

00:17:51.640 Okay. 1.00

00:17:53.620 That's what she shows everywhere. 1.00

00:17:55.120 She's very, very proud of her massive fake bust.

00:17:56.940 I mean, it's not like something we can't all have. 1.00

00:17:59.720 Literally, just pay your doctor and you can have her size triple whatever breasts.

00:18:04.580 It's not hard. 0.99

00:18:06.080 But she too seemed to be desperately trying to look like a Kardashian, but I've got to be honest, not as good.

00:18:11.260 Not as good.

00:18:12.260 But let me tell you something, the real problem with Lauren Sanchez Bezos.

00:18:14.580 I got to call her Lauren Sanchez Bezos now.

00:18:16.520 I mean, honestly, I don't understand.

00:18:17.800 Like your 55-year-old woman, 56, who changes her name at that point? 0.87

00:18:22.000 Okay, but here's the problem with her. 1.00

00:18:24.680 It's not the dress, which was a bore. 0.99

00:18:26.940 it's the face. It is the face. She is so pulled and prodded. She looks, Doug called it, like an

00:18:35.620 alien. I mean, which is perfect given what she did with outer space. Look how pulled and prodded 1.00

00:18:41.380 she is. The cheeks, sister, I'm going to tell you, you have all the money in the world and I know 0.97

00:18:47.760 that you can correct this. You go to your, not your surgeon. You clearly have the wrong one.

00:18:54.120 Go to a New York surgeon.

00:18:56.740 Get out of Miami and L.A.

00:18:59.920 Because they've done wrong by you.

00:19:03.120 You go, you tell them you want that filler out of your face.

00:19:06.400 You tell them you want that filler out of your lips.

00:19:10.180 You tell them they've done something to your eyes that's making you look cross-eyed.

00:19:14.260 I don't know what it is, but you look cross-eyed now.

00:19:17.420 You never looked cross-eyed before.

00:19:19.340 At least, I don't have a long history of studying your face.

00:19:21.540 but in your younger pictures, you did not look cross-eyed.

00:19:24.640 You then find a way to cover up some of your large forehead.

00:19:29.900 And then you ease up on the Botox unless you've had a forehead lift and it's no longer movable.

00:19:35.680 Like I get it.

00:19:36.200 I have Botox.

00:19:37.020 I'm going to show you right here.

00:19:38.120 Look, here's me back on camera.

00:19:39.940 You get it?

00:19:40.760 I have the Botox, but I can do this.

00:19:43.680 I can lift my eyebrows and I can lower them.

00:19:45.640 It's not a huge, I can do it enough.

00:19:47.280 But that's because I say to the derm, I want some movement.

00:19:52.400 I don't want to be frozen.

00:19:53.860 Lauren, my friend, that's what you need to tell your doc.

00:19:57.500 I want some movement. 0.98

00:19:59.200 Take out the filler. 1.00

00:20:00.100 And if you have a big saggy face when you've gotten your filler taken out of your lips and your weird cheeks, everyone's starting to look Asian. 1.00

00:20:07.960 They're putting so much filler and whatever in their face. 0.99

00:20:10.660 They're all starting to have squinty eyes and look Asian, which is fine if you're Asian, but she's not. 1.00

00:20:17.640 She's Latina, Latinks. 0.99

00:20:19.640 So if everything is saggy, then you can get the Kris Jenner facelift, which would serve you much better than what you are doing. 1.00

00:20:29.280 All right.

00:20:29.580 She's worth $280 billion now through marriage.

00:20:33.920 She's never publicly confirmed whether she's undergone any procedures.

00:20:38.580 She doesn't have to.

00:20:39.320 It's fine.

00:20:40.660 That's not technically any of our business, whether she has or hasn't, but, you know, we're allowed to speculate. 0.90

00:20:45.980 And, like, online, people are saying she has more plastic in her face than a Tupperware factory.

00:20:51.820 That's how it looks to me, too.

00:20:55.240 It's just, it's too much, okay?

00:20:58.540 I'm going to go through a couple more.

00:21:02.300 Stand by. 0.98

00:21:03.200 Take a look at this woman, Chloe Mull. 1.00

00:21:07.940 Chloe Mull. 0.80

00:21:08.500 She is the new head of editorial content at Vogue, okay?

00:21:13.280 You would be forgiven if you did not know that this person is basically the new Anna Wintour. 0.83

00:21:20.580 Look at this frumpy orange tangerine who dared to walk on the Met Gala. 0.55

00:21:27.560 Look at her posture. 0.99

00:21:29.160 Young girls everywhere, okay?

00:21:31.560 Young girls everywhere, look at this posture.

00:21:33.740 This is no way to present yourself to the world.

00:21:37.160 Shoulders back, people.

00:21:38.660 Stand tall, as erect as possible toward the ceiling.

00:21:42.520 You put your shoulders back.

00:21:44.360 You lower them down.

00:21:45.880 You elongate your neck and your head.

00:21:48.580 Ideally, always, but certainly when you are at the Met Gala.

00:21:52.980 She is instead forward-shouldered. 0.98

00:21:56.320 She's, like, eliminated her neck as a body part. 0.96

00:22:00.360 She's kind of looking over her shoulder. 0.75

00:22:02.220 She looks a little troll-like. 0.98

00:22:03.660 She's got rounded trapezius, making her look hunchbacked and ogre-like. 0.98

00:22:11.580 And on top of all that, she's wearing a hideous, it's not even really orange-eyed. 0.73

00:22:17.120 It's like more tangerine of a dress that does not look like art at all.

00:22:22.760 Doesn't look like art.

00:22:24.360 Now, a word, a couple of other words. 1.00

00:22:27.180 You've got Nicole Kidman, who showed up in all red sequins with a lot of feathers in the middle of her dress. 0.99

00:22:36.680 It was reportedly by Chanel, and she looks stunning because Nicole Kidman is, of course, taking care of herself as she ages. 0.95

00:22:44.600 She's in her low 60s now, I think 62. 0.89

00:22:47.280 And she's got the long, long, long blonde extensions down below the butt and the huge, huge, huge red feathers around the waist. 1.00

00:22:54.040 and her figure is spectacular and she's spectacular 1.00

00:22:57.160 and she's a genuine Hollywood A-lister 0.99

00:22:59.780 and that will complete the list of Hollywood A-listers

00:23:02.740 who are at the Met Gala.

00:23:04.720 Like, I'm just gonna tell you, there weren't many others.

00:23:07.280 So I just wanna say, she looked great,

00:23:08.800 she looked stunning, I love the dress.

00:23:10.280 I don't know that it matched the fashion is art theme.

00:23:14.220 That didn't look like art to me.

00:23:16.080 Just looked like a dress that she looked amazing in. 1.00

00:23:19.480 Same for Margot Robbie. 0.64

00:23:21.800 Boring. 0.93

00:23:22.800 You look so boring. 0.97

00:23:25.140 Your hair was boring. 0.62

00:23:27.340 Your dress was boring.

00:23:28.760 Your pose was boring.

00:23:30.380 And you were boring.

00:23:31.680 And that's unfortunate because, you know, you too can look stunning, but you chose not to.

00:23:37.740 Zoe Kravitz, too.

00:23:39.060 Some black lace number. 1.00

00:23:40.440 Boring, boring, boring.

00:23:43.140 I didn't find it interesting at all.

00:23:45.080 But almost no Hollywood A-listers. 1.00

00:23:47.560 I guess Margot Robbie's also a Hollywood A-lister.

00:23:50.120 But none of the big stars, honestly, like, where were the big stars?

00:23:53.540 Apparently, they tried to move heaven and earth to get Meryl Streep to co-chair the event

00:23:57.740 because she's, of course, in The Devil Wears Prada and The Devil Wears Prada 2,

00:24:01.920 which just hit theaters, portraying a woman called Miranda Priestly,

00:24:07.020 but it's obviously Anna Wintour.

00:24:08.980 And they begged her.

00:24:10.740 They begged her to come to the Met Gala, and she'd get the full Anna treatment 0.58

00:24:14.400 and the, you know, red carpet. 1.00

00:24:16.480 And to her credit, Meryl Streep was like, oh, hell no.

00:24:19.200 I have zero desire to do this.

00:24:21.340 I don't want to go.

00:24:22.160 I don't want to dress up.

00:24:23.020 I don't want to rub elbows with these people.

00:24:24.940 It's a no.

00:24:26.120 And it was very interesting

00:24:27.240 because this year you had a bunch of stars who showed up.

00:24:29.780 The Daily Mail was pointing this out.

00:24:31.360 Without their male counterparts.

00:24:35.800 Zendaya was there without Harry Styles

00:24:38.020 to whom she just got, no, wait, was it?

00:24:41.240 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right?

00:24:42.580 No, no, it was Zoe, Zoe Kravitz.

00:24:46.640 She was there without Harry Styles.

00:24:48.700 and Katy Perry was there without Justin Trudeau

00:24:52.480 and Kylie Jenner was there without Timothee Chalamet. 0.95

00:24:57.140 Here's Zoe Kravitz, boring, boring. 1.00

00:24:58.960 It looks like something I put on on Halloween, 1.00

00:25:00.380 just hand out Kennedy, the kids.

00:25:03.380 Justin Bieber wasn't there, but Hailey Bieber, 0.99

00:25:06.480 Hailey Baldwin Bieber, his wife was.

00:25:09.060 Like the guys basically said no

00:25:10.860 and Timothee Chalamet, who's dating Kendall Jenner,

00:25:13.740 he was down the road at the Knicks game.

00:25:15.920 The men are over it.

00:25:17.600 They are over it. 0.94

00:25:18.700 And good for them because nine times out of 10, if you're a man and you show up at this thing in costume, like on point when it comes to the style, you look like a flaming homosexual, which most of them aren't. 0.92

00:25:29.700 So it's a problem, right? 0.96

00:25:30.640 If you are, hey, what do you do you?

00:25:32.360 But like if you are a straight man, like Justin Bieber, you don't really want to show up gay, have everybody speculating for days just how gay you are because you were a very gay outfit, which all of these designers are. 0.57

00:25:44.000 And they work out their weird gay fantasies on these male actors or singers who show up.

00:25:49.620 So I applaud those guys for not going. 0.88

00:25:52.480 And as a result, their female counterparts just showed up, walked the red carpet. 0.83

00:25:56.680 That was it. 1.00

00:25:57.500 That's what it's all about.

00:25:58.340 But the genuine A-list Hollywood talent wasn't there and hasn't been there in years.

00:26:04.940 There was no Brad Pitt.

00:26:06.360 There was no Leo.

00:26:08.100 There was no Tom Cruise.

00:26:09.580 There was no Robert Downey Jr.

00:26:11.240 There was no Liam Neeson.

00:26:12.520 There was no Dwayne, the rock Johnson. There was no Will Smith. There was no Denzel. Like those

00:26:17.980 people do not attend this thing. It is now much more like the C-listers who you're like, 1.00

00:26:25.320 ah, what do I know Sarah Paulson from again? I can't think of one movie I know her from.

00:26:30.360 I know she was dating the, the woman, um, who's the, the woman from, I don't know. It's the, 0.99

00:26:39.140 the David E. Kelly series, The Practice, who played a judge.

00:26:46.000 Holland Taylor, thank you, Steve.

00:26:47.940 Okay, oh, I guess The Rock was there.

00:26:49.440 Okay, we got one.

00:26:50.260 We got one big male, literally a very large male.

00:26:54.100 But you got my point.

00:26:55.360 You know, it's like you really got to look.

00:26:57.680 You got to really squint your eyes to be like,

00:26:59.260 is there anyone, anyone who I recognize who's there?

00:27:03.360 Like, who are the fashion leaders of tomorrow?

00:27:07.800 I don't know.

00:27:09.140 I don't think they were there.

00:27:10.480 I think it's the girls on Instagram

00:27:12.260 who are showing us how to style an outfit.

00:27:15.040 I think those are the ones

00:27:16.040 that most normal Americans are actually looking to

00:27:18.720 if they want a fashion tip.

00:27:20.720 They're certainly not going with Katy Perry's

00:27:22.800 weird mask on the face situation. 1.00

00:27:25.760 And Anna Wintour, by the way, you looked gross. 1.00

00:27:28.320 I don't know what you were wearing. 1.00

00:27:29.760 It was very ugly, some green monstrosity.

00:27:33.360 It didn't work.

00:27:34.400 It wasn't flattering to you. 1.00

00:27:35.760 She's very, very anti-black gowns and black clothing. 1.00

00:27:39.540 Well, I mean, it might have served you well.

00:27:41.280 I don't know if you made a good choice in wearing what you wore.

00:27:46.160 So I don't know.

00:27:47.220 I think it's a fail.

00:27:49.880 Where was Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, Sandra Bullock?

00:27:53.640 I don't know.

00:27:55.120 Instead, we got people I had to look up and people like Heidi Klum.

00:27:59.580 Of course, there were the Kardashians. 0.96

00:28:01.260 Kim Kardashian was there.

00:28:02.760 Kendall Jenner, as I think I mentioned.

00:28:04.240 and the other one, Kylie.

00:28:09.240 Kylie Jenner is the one who's with Timothee Chalamet.

00:28:11.680 I always screw them up.

00:28:13.500 I'm gonna tell you the truth.

00:28:15.100 I thought these three looked great.

00:28:17.020 This is Kendall. 1.00

00:28:17.740 She's the supermodel. 1.00

00:28:19.220 That's stunning.

00:28:20.200 When she puts her arms out, 0.86

00:28:21.260 it makes enormous wings and she looks great.

00:28:24.180 This woman looks great in anything. 0.82

00:28:26.040 She's had many, many plastic surgeries.

00:28:28.060 So if you are a very homely person sitting at home

00:28:30.220 thinking there's no hope for you,

00:28:31.500 you totally should feel inspired.

00:28:32.760 If you had a few surgeries, you could look like her.

00:28:35.400 Because trust me, she looked nothing like this when she was 13, 14, 15.

00:28:38.960 We all watched her on Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

00:28:40.840 But she looks stunning now.

00:28:42.360 And I thought the fashion was gorgeous. 1.00

00:28:44.180 Kim had on this pointy, like, orange latex number. 0.70

00:28:48.520 I thought she looked great. 0.98

00:28:49.880 I thought she looked stunning. 1.00

00:28:51.840 Her body looked great. 1.00

00:28:52.720 Her hair looked great.

00:28:53.620 And she looked great.

00:28:54.920 And Kylie, the one who's dating Chalamet, looked awesome, too.

00:28:59.040 I loved her outfit.

00:28:59.840 It was weird.

00:29:00.340 It was like latex with the pointy. 0.98

00:29:02.440 Kylie with the pointy boobs 1.00

00:29:04.020 and there was even a belly button situation going on there 1.00

00:29:06.920 with like a bodice on the bottom, 0.87

00:29:09.420 like a train on the bottom 1.00

00:29:10.600 that looked like it was almost falling off of her.

00:29:12.520 So that was kind of sensual, but not inappropriate,

00:29:15.680 which is, you know, the Kardashians can go inappropriate.

00:29:18.080 And they didn't, I have to say,

00:29:19.580 I would definitely put all three of them

00:29:20.720 on my best dressed look.

00:29:21.820 And the mom, Kris Jenner wore a kimono.

00:29:24.280 She looked good.

00:29:25.160 I liked her outfit.

00:29:25.880 So for once, I'm giving a thumbs up to the Kardashian four,

00:29:31.420 The other sister, Courtney, never shows up.

00:29:33.020 And then there's another sister too.

00:29:34.160 There's two sisters that never come up.

00:29:35.400 There's Kim.

00:29:35.880 She looks great. 0.86

00:29:36.820 I mean, I thought she looked stunning. 1.00

00:29:39.120 Let's hope they stayed out of the bathroom 1.00

00:29:40.960 and the dry humping like I saw the last time 0.99

00:29:44.880 I was at the Met Gala.

00:29:46.540 For those of you wondering,

00:29:47.600 when you go into the Met Gala,

00:29:48.720 it's really all about that walk on the red carpet

00:29:51.280 or last night it was the green carpet.

00:29:53.200 That's kind of it.

00:29:53.840 That's what the event's all about.

00:29:55.700 You walk up at,

00:29:57.640 they treat everybody who's not a celebrity

00:30:00.260 like you know the people who paid to be at those tables like they're nothing i mean it's really

00:30:05.380 shameful like those poor people like the people who have no public name run up those stairs in

00:30:10.520 shame because no one's interested in them even though they're they look fantastic they've done

00:30:14.600 it but like no one cares if you're not like beyonce whatever um you go in you mill about

00:30:20.920 you look at the displays in the museum you're looking at the celebs you're taking selfies

00:30:27.720 even though you're technically not supposed to,

00:30:29.760 but everybody does.

00:30:30.960 And then you sit down for a dinner

00:30:33.020 that most people don't eat 1.00

00:30:34.300 because no one eats when they're in these gowns.

00:30:37.080 And then you move to like an area for dancing.

00:30:40.600 When I was there,

00:30:41.460 I can't remember who was there the first year,

00:30:42.740 but the weekend was there the second year.

00:30:45.480 They had some good entertainment there this year,

00:30:47.320 but nobody really dances

00:30:48.320 because they're in these enormous high heels.

00:30:50.440 Like I can't, it's all just about a photo op.

00:30:53.080 It's not about actually bonding with anybody,

00:30:54.960 getting to know anybody.

00:30:56.100 It's a photo op.

00:30:57.060 It's a massive PR event.

00:30:59.680 Oh, I forgot to mention the Williams sisters, Venus and Serena.

00:31:02.580 Venus, total bore. 0.93

00:31:03.980 I put her in the category with Margot Robbie. 0.98

00:31:07.360 The swing and a miss.

00:31:08.600 It looked utterly boring.

00:31:09.740 I don't remember anything about your dress.

00:31:11.300 There was some lace, I think, on your head.

00:31:13.620 Serena, I don't remember what you wore last night, but your outfit for the night before was dreadful. 0.99

00:31:18.920 It was back in the red sequence theme, and it went all the way up her ass. 0.99

00:31:23.660 I saw total ass of Serena Williams, which, you know, it's a lot. 1.00

00:31:27.060 And the dress was cut all the way up to show ass 1.00

00:31:29.460 and a rather large leg. 0.99

00:31:31.420 And it was just inappropriate, okay?

00:31:33.100 It was inappropriate. 1.00

00:31:33.860 She's too old to be this needy. 1.00

00:31:36.220 That's generally my takeaway with these people 0.99

00:31:37.800 who are older and show so much skin.

00:31:40.100 Like, I really hope that,

00:31:42.760 Serena's younger than I am,

00:31:43.980 but I really hope that when I'm like Madonna's age

00:31:46.720 in my 60s or Vera Wang's age, 76,

00:31:51.540 I am not that needy.

00:31:53.240 I do not need someone to see my fully naked torso 0.94

00:31:56.720 So, or ass here in Serena's case, in order for me to feel sexy or good about myself. 0.97

00:32:02.360 That's like, this is just not, it doesn't work with a huge, long blonde wig, of course. 0.99

00:32:09.200 All right.

00:32:12.380 It ended with a return to the Met Gala here.

00:32:16.980 Blake Lively making her very first Met Gala appearance since 2022.

00:32:22.980 And on the same day, she reached a settlement in her lawsuit against Justin Baldoni and Wayfarer Studios, his studios, over the film It Ends With Us.

00:32:33.160 Lively telling Vogue, quote, I haven't been to the Met since giving birth to my fourth child.

00:32:38.100 Every year, I am a different version of myself than the last.

00:32:41.080 So to be able to stand in the version of myself that I am today.

00:32:44.000 Who talks like that?

00:32:45.020 to be able to stand in the version of myself that I am today and all the experiences I have had

00:32:51.080 in strength and confidence is important to me. These are lies. No one who actually feels strong

00:32:57.500 and confident talks about themselves like that. I sit here at the anchor desk in my strength and

00:33:03.960 confidence to bring you the news. Nobody talks like this. Like she's just trying to give you

00:33:09.900 the adjectives she wants you to repeat about her because she has not those things. I mean,

00:33:16.700 I've said this to you many times, but like the six foot seven center doesn't tell you how tall

00:33:21.020 he is. If somebody is telling you the adjectives they are in this way, it is an ultimate, ultimate

00:33:27.800 tell that they don't feel those things about themselves. So she does not feel strong. She

00:33:33.160 feels weak. She does not feel confident. She has to suffer from a lack of confidence, which seems

00:33:38.220 very obvious because she's a bully. And that's how all bullies are. None of them has confidence 0.99

00:33:44.900 or feel strength. That's why they have to behave like that to make them feel those things for a

00:33:50.080 moment or two. And she is a bully. And I have a lot of thoughts on this settlement, why it came 0.99

00:33:56.940 about and why it had to happen, and some new reporting on exactly what changed hands to make

00:34:04.660 this lawsuit go away. And we will talk about that right after this quick, quick break. Don't go

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00:35:05.480 The big news yesterday was the settlement two weeks before trial of the case brought by Blake

00:35:12.700 Lively against Justin Baldoni and his movie studio, not to mention the PR team representing

00:35:19.460 him. This came as a big shock to most because so far they had been saying all along,

00:35:27.240 there'll be no settlement. Like we're, we're going to see this through right to the bitter end

00:35:30.940 and a bitter end. It was indeed. Um, I want to take you back before we kick this off to what

00:35:39.080 Brian Friedman, who represented Justin Baldoni to what he said to me back in January, 2025,

00:35:45.900 right after this thing was filed. Uh, he's a friend. He's also my own personal attorney and

00:35:51.360 he will make your life very unpleasant if you come after me. But that's an aside.

00:35:56.940 He came on the show and he talked about what was going to happen in this litigation. Remember what

00:36:02.880 happened was Blake Lively, just as a quick primer, she starred in this movie, It Ends With Us,

00:36:07.360 was Justin Baldoni. He had purchased the rights to that Colleen Hoover novel. It was his film.

00:36:13.500 He agreed with Blake Lively that she would star in it. And she agreed to that just to be the star,

00:36:17.980 Not the co-writer, not the co-director. She had an executive producer credit, but that's meaningless. It's just like a vanity plate. And when she did the movie, she started to complain that he was allegedly doing things inappropriate on the set, that she felt like he was writing in sex scenes that weren't there and other allegations.

00:36:36.220 and they took a break during COVID.

00:36:39.160 And when they came back,

00:36:40.100 she wanted him to sign this long rider

00:36:41.660 of all the things he promised he would not do,

00:36:43.600 like go into her dressing room unannounced,

00:36:46.320 as she claimed had allegedly been done with her.

00:36:49.280 We would later learn that she invited him

00:36:50.920 into the dressing room

00:36:51.780 while she was breastfeeding, 0.99

00:36:53.420 something she would complain about in the lawsuit. 1.00

00:36:55.840 Even though she said, I'm breastfeeding.

00:36:57.780 And he said, oh, I can come later.

00:36:58.880 She said, no, come now.

00:37:00.020 Okay, there was such a list of those things

00:37:01.780 where if you just heard her half of it,

00:37:03.440 you were like, oh God, he's terrible.

00:37:04.480 And then you heard the other half of it.

00:37:05.620 It was like, oh, wow, she's terrible for misleading me in this way.

00:37:08.260 So she filed first a complaint with the California Human Rights Department.

00:37:13.680 And then somehow, I mean, gee, who knows, it wound up in the New York Times.

00:37:17.660 I have no idea how the New York Times got wind of her super confidential complaint with the California Human Rights Division.

00:37:24.060 But lo and behold, the New York Times, they're good scoopers, and they found out.

00:37:29.060 Shortly thereafter, we had crossed lawsuits.

00:37:32.160 She sued Baldoni and Wayfarer and Justin's PR team, claiming that they had unleashed, that she'd been discriminated against, sexually harassed, and then that they had retaliated against her when she complained with the California Human Rights Division and with them internally.

00:37:47.300 And he cross-claimed against her, too, for defamation of character and so on and so forth.

00:37:51.820 The litigation proceeded. He was very aggressive in his defense and very aggressive in his PR, thanks to his lawyer, Brian Friedman, who, let me tell you, has been through this a time or two.

00:38:03.960 I mean, his representation of me in my battle with NBC was one of the first huge litigations that he'd handled that was equally big on the PR front battle and on the legal battle.

00:38:18.200 And Brian is equally gifted at both.

00:38:20.420 And he understood in this case, and he's handled so many in between, but he understood in this case that both were going to be equally necessary here.

00:38:26.980 In fact, the truth is the PR battle was even more important in this lawsuit.

00:38:31.020 So we spoke to him weeks after the New York Times article dropped on this program, and he made a prediction about how this was going to go for Blake Lively.

00:38:43.320 I think it's Sot, too.

00:38:44.140 So what's your prediction of where things go from here?

00:38:48.880 I mean, you know, my prediction is that this is going to get worse and worse for Blake Lively.

00:38:55.060 And the reason it's going to get worse and worse is people are going to be more comfortable telling the truth.

00:39:00.840 And what this is about is really the truth.

00:39:03.040 And she's put Jamie Heath and Justin Baldoni in this position of being called sexual predators, sexual harassers.

00:39:13.360 they have no choice but to go all the way no choice so you know we're going to go all the way

00:39:20.780 and and the unique thing again in this case is going to be we're going to put every single text

00:39:26.320 message out there we're going to put every email out there we're going to put every document out

00:39:31.800 there that's relevant to the case not something that's disrespectful or otherwise would embarrass

00:39:36.960 miss lively because that's not what we want to do but we want to make sure that people have the facts

00:39:42.880 and people can make their own determinations as to what happened.

00:39:48.160 And that would prove to be devastating to Blake Lively.

00:39:52.580 It's the reason she settled, because they never relented.

00:39:56.820 They kept confronting her via the media with the truth about her behavior toward Justin Baldoni

00:40:04.520 and toward the press and toward others and all the things she did that made everyone loathe her.

00:40:10.600 And it was devastating for her.

00:40:12.520 Her reputation is in tatters.

00:40:14.080 It is in ruins, thanks to her.

00:40:18.020 They put out a joint statement.

00:40:20.260 And I want to read you the joint statement and take you through it from a legal perspective.

00:40:24.680 Okay?

00:40:25.000 It's remarkable.

00:40:26.460 It is a huge accomplishment for the Baldoni defense team.

00:40:31.560 It reads as follows.

00:40:32.580 A joint statement.

00:40:33.440 Okay, so they're both, all of them, signing on to this.

00:40:36.760 The end product, the movie It Ends With Us, is a source of pride to all of us

00:40:41.380 who work to bring it to life. Raising awareness and making a meaningful impact in the lives of

00:40:46.000 domestic violence survivors and all survivors is a goal that we stand behind. Okay. Generic.

00:40:52.640 Go see our movie. It was a good one. Then we get to the meat of it. We acknowledge the process

00:40:58.320 presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard.

00:41:05.500 Now I'm going to guarantee I haven't talked to Brian. I guarantee you that that line there was the subject of about 200 revisions back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Right. You I can feel it getting watered down and watered down and watered down from like Blake Lively had righteous claims that she was correct to bring.

00:41:27.440 Unfortunately, they were thrown out by a judge and whatever.

00:41:29.940 This is the best you could do.

00:41:31.180 Whatever.

00:41:31.660 I'm sure it sounded much more favorable to Blake Lively when it was first drafted.

00:41:35.860 Instead, we wind up with the process of making the movie presented challenges and we recognize concerns raised by Lively deserve to be heard.

00:41:47.180 So good.

00:41:48.140 I mean, honestly, every defense lawyer out there is like, that's the best you could ever hope for.

00:41:52.660 We remain firmly committed to workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments.

00:42:00.640 There is nothing, nothing in here about sexual harassment, nothing, or retaliation.

00:42:06.600 Just workplaces free of improprieties and unproductive environments.

00:42:12.100 You could be talking about people who leave early and who are lazy on the set.

00:42:17.200 That does not in any way suggest any sexual harassment, never mind retaliation.

00:42:22.080 it is as anodyne a statement as you could get. It is our sincere hope that this brings closure

00:42:28.660 and allows all involved to move forward constructively and in peace. That's Team

00:42:36.140 Blake saying, please don't hurt us anymore, Brian Friedman. But you're the one who started this,

00:42:42.360 including a respectful environment online. That's a message for all of us to stop saying nasty

00:42:51.060 things about Blake Lively. Well, I hate to break it to you, Team Blake, but I didn't sign a

00:42:55.680 agreement, and I'm totally free and emboldened to say whatever I want about you, including that 0.99

00:43:03.260 you're a liar. You're a liar, and your legal team are a bunch of liars. Remember when you subpoenaed 1.00

00:43:10.260 me in this case trying to get my documents on you? This happened. They subpoenaed me, my company,

00:43:19.920 and tried to come out after my documents

00:43:22.200 that my team and I put together

00:43:24.620 before we covered her on this show,

00:43:26.980 before we interviewed Brian Friedman on this show,

00:43:29.120 they actually had the gall to ask

00:43:30.840 for my attorney-client communications

00:43:32.480 between me and my lawyer,

00:43:34.200 thinking we had nothing better to discuss

00:43:35.740 than Blake Lively.

00:43:38.180 And I told her to pound sand.

00:43:40.100 I hired a lawyer, outside lawyer,

00:43:41.980 because Brian was handling this case.

00:43:43.640 I didn't want him to have to be conflicted.

00:43:46.620 And the lawyer went in, objected, and they lost.

00:43:49.440 OK, they were forced to stand down. 0.52

00:43:51.320 And then she had the nerve when she was forced to stand down to come out and say, we never subpoenaed Megyn Kelly, which was a lie.

00:43:55.880 I can show you the document with my name on it, asking for my documents.

00:43:58.840 I had to hire a lawyer and go into court and defend it.

00:44:00.820 And I won.

00:44:01.800 So I know they're liars.

00:44:03.980 And I know they're liars from the complaint that they filed against Justin, which Brian bit by bit undermined with proof, with proof that she had taken things out of context, that she was determined to paint herself as a victim.

00:44:16.340 I'm telling you, this woman, Blake Lively, I think she has Munchausen's.

00:44:20.500 If one word of what she alleged was sincere in her head, she has Munchausen's. 0.99

00:44:24.860 Or like she tries to make something bad happen to her.

00:44:27.940 She like insists that she has to be a victim because like something terrible has happened to her.

00:44:32.660 It's like some form of Munchausen's.

00:44:35.600 And either that or she's just a bald-faced liar who made the whole thing up because she understood that she was suffering PR-wise thanks to her own bad deeds. 1.00

00:44:46.340 and she wanted somebody to blame it on. 0.98

00:44:48.640 She wanted someone to blame it on.

00:44:51.500 The Daily Mail today,

00:44:54.160 I want to give credit where it's due.

00:44:55.780 I think it's the Daily Mail, not the Post,

00:44:57.160 but is reporting not $1 exchanged hands.

00:45:03.260 Not $1.

00:45:04.400 TMZ also has it.

00:45:05.740 Not $1.

00:45:07.200 He didn't pay her one red cent.

00:45:10.420 Can you believe that?

00:45:12.120 That is a total and complete victory for him.

00:45:16.340 With this anodyne statement and she dismisses all charges, it is a complete and total win for Justin Baldoni.

00:45:25.840 And it is a complete and total surrender by Blake Lively and admission that she had no claims.

00:45:34.740 She won't be forced to do it publicly.

00:45:36.480 She was allowed to save face by just saying, oh, we settled it and give this statement. 0.77

00:45:40.940 You know, we both agree on appropriate workplaces. 0.99

00:45:43.160 And now she's going to run around and she's going to try to paint herself as like, I can't talk about it because of an NDA, but like, you know, wink, wink, we, we care about workplaces and I care about women. I care. I deeply care. And the press is going to let her get away with that. But the public is not. 0.55

00:45:58.700 And this is where I want to offer a free PR lesson to Blake Lively, to Meghan Markle, another person who wasn't at the Met Gala, even though her good friends, the Kardashians, were all there and very tight with the co-chair, Lauren Sanchez Bezos, couldn't quite manage to get an invite for that loser.

00:46:23.900 But both women need the same lesson, and I am just the gal to provide it.

00:46:28.700 When you come under withering attack by the media, which happens to virtually every public figure at one point or another in his or her life, there is only one play.

00:46:41.780 Be quiet and take it.

00:46:44.360 I know you can go out there and you can complain.

00:46:46.800 You can fight back.

00:46:48.480 It's fine to correct the record if somebody's saying, you know, you stole from a bank.

00:46:52.980 It's fine for you to say that is not true.

00:46:55.760 Ideally, without too much emotion.

00:46:57.360 You can correct the record, but don't make a huge deal out of it.

00:47:02.440 Don't call additional attention to the terrible things being said about you, right?

00:47:08.460 Like, whatever, at least let time pass, you know, ideally months before you get out there

00:47:15.780 and subtly say something about it, because it only calls more attention to the negative

00:47:20.460 thing that's being said about you.

00:47:22.440 And on top of that, Americans don't want to hear it.

00:47:25.860 They don't want to hear it.

00:47:28.080 They don't care about your PR problems.

00:47:31.060 Blake Lively, you're married to Ryan Reynolds.

00:47:34.540 He's reportedly worth $400 million.

00:47:37.640 You yourself reportedly earned $21 million in the eight years preceding the filing of this lawsuit, according to those involved in the case.

00:47:45.160 So you're earning, what, $4 million and change per film?

00:47:48.420 That's not bad for you.

00:47:49.460 You're really not that talented. 1.00

00:47:50.920 You're really just the gossip girl actress. 0.98

00:47:53.840 Your life is grand.

00:47:54.880 You have four wonderful children. You live in some huge mansion, I think, up in Bedford, New York, or someplace in the sort of hills of Connecticut.

00:48:02.460 You're doing great. Shut up. You got your liquor company. You got your hair company. 0.99

00:48:10.020 Shut the fuck up about your bad PR, which amounted to like a month's worth of negative articles, which he didn't even generate. 1.00

00:48:20.460 But honestly, even if he had, shut up. We don't care. 1.00

00:48:24.880 America has its own problems, and they look like real problems, not your stupid problems. 0.99

00:48:30.400 I had bad things said about me in the Daily Mail or the New York Post. 1.00

00:48:33.480 Oh, cry me a river.

00:48:35.740 You ruined your own reputation by telegraphing to the world that you could not take a rhetorical punch in the face,

00:48:42.880 that you were so thin-skinned you had to run and file a lawsuit,

00:48:46.800 and on top of that, try to ruin a man with less power than you.

00:48:51.640 It's one thing for a bully to take on someone of equal or greater power.

00:48:55.720 It's almost impossible, actually, to be dubbed a bully in those circumstances.

00:48:58.980 If you have equal or the other person has greater power than you, you're not bullying them at all.

00:49:05.380 That wasn't the case here.

00:49:07.300 She and her dragons, Taylor Swift and Ryan Reynolds, her best friend and her husband, and Blake herself, had way more power than Justin Baldoni.

00:49:14.220 And she was determined to ruin his life, to dub him as a Me Too-er, as a sexual predator, to misrepresent his emails, his behavior on set, that of his partners from Wayfarer.

00:49:26.420 And she did not care at all.

00:49:28.340 She just wanted to cloak herself in fake Me Too glory. 0.88

00:49:32.940 She was a Me Too stolen valor thief.

00:49:35.600 and had she just taken it, 0.90

00:49:39.120 had she let us beat her up for her,

00:49:40.880 admittedly, I mean, not admitted by her,

00:49:42.760 but the rest of us admit,

00:49:44.200 terrible behavior in her interview

00:49:45.860 with that Nordic journalist. 1.00

00:49:48.820 I like your baby, but too, 0.56

00:49:50.000 why do they always ask us about her fashion?

00:49:51.360 Would they ask that of the man? 0.96

00:49:52.900 Parker Posey, you're awful too.

00:49:55.060 Had she just taken it? 0.98

00:49:56.160 Because she would have realized, 1.00

00:49:57.180 shit, I was bad there. 0.99

00:49:58.020 I should have just, I mishandled that. 0.99

00:50:00.660 And ideally issued an apology to that young woman.

00:50:03.740 Had she come out and said,

00:50:04.860 you know what? Some of my tone around the promo of a domestic violence movie, it may have been

00:50:09.320 off. Let me explain it to you in an interview. We actually thought maybe that was the better way to

00:50:13.840 promote it. But now having seen it, I understand how it was perceived as insensitive. Whatever.

00:50:18.960 You could have handled it like that. But instead you filed a lawsuit and you tried to viciously

00:50:23.820 ruin a man's life. And for that, we do not forgive you. You haven't sought forgiveness. You don't

00:50:28.300 seem sorrowful or regretful at all. In fact, I believe you'd do it again. So now you'll have to

00:50:35.080 live with the consequences of calling attention to your own bad behavior, the reasons people

00:50:40.080 disliked you, which got amplified, the Streisand effect, times 2,000. Everyone's seen these terrible

00:50:46.500 clips of you, whereas they wouldn't have before. It would have been a small one-month deal at most.

00:50:51.240 You're the one who made it an unforgettable two-year saga for all of us, and you ruined your

00:50:56.180 career. No director wants to work with you. They know you're going to do this to them.

00:51:01.140 They know you're a nightmare, that you're a terrorist. That's what the Sony executive 0.98

00:51:05.580 who was responsible for putting this movie out called you, a terrorist. If the Sony guy's going

00:51:10.920 to say that, if you're going to do this to Justin Baldoni, they've seen your out-of-context

00:51:14.520 allegations and so on. No one is going to want to work with you. You're box office poison.

00:51:19.620 You did the same thing to yourself that Meghan Markle did to herself. 0.98

00:51:25.360 Justin Baldoni will emerge from this smelling like a rose.

00:51:29.700 He looks victimized by you and like someone who decided not to take it lying down, who

00:51:36.200 hired himself a very good lawyer, who was able to out you for exactly what you are.

00:51:42.360 So you will not move on and sail off into the sunset with great movie roles or in high

00:51:48.300 demand in Hollywood, you've reached the apex of your career. And you look, your life is still

00:51:53.840 great. You have your great husband, you have your kids, you have your multi-million dollar estates.

00:51:59.920 Enjoy them. Be quiet. Reflect. Try to learn. And maybe at some point in the future, come out

00:52:07.520 and do the mea culpa. You owe us all, but most importantly, you owe Justin.

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00:53:31.920 We've got more updates in the J.P. Morgan sex slave scandal, a brand new filing in this

00:53:38.400 ex-banker, now claiming that he has new evidence supporting his crazy allegations. This is a wild

00:53:45.920 story and the update is crazy. Joining me in the studio are the hosts of the Red Scare podcast,

00:53:52.720 Anna Kachian and Dasha Nekrasova. Ladies, welcome back. Thank you. So good to have you both.

00:53:59.400 It's great to be here. We're just joking in the break that there's a lot's happened since the

00:54:03.080 last time you were here yeah in all of our lives okay before we start on the jp morgan thing because

00:54:08.580 i've got a lot of thoughts and i know you do too let me ask you about our first two stories today

00:54:12.520 did you watch any of the met gala last night thoughts on the fashions and those in attendance

00:54:20.080 my favorite my favorite looks were hunter schaefer so he kravitz and almost kendall

00:54:28.760 jenner i loved the dress but her and kylie both did the skims nipple yeah yeah and we're up to

00:54:35.720 something yeah yeah it's like promo really cooking up a promo you're probably right they're gonna

00:54:40.340 make a million yeah yeah they do everything they touches they touch turns to millions yeah though

00:54:45.280 i guess kylie was wearing shiparelli am i saying that correctly and down below handle was wearing

00:54:50.720 gap studio by zach bozen oh really it was like a t-shirt yeah i thought with the with the wings i

00:54:57.600 thought that was actually very cool the dress was fantastic i like that it was i zoe kravitz though

00:55:02.360 i thought she was she looked boring it was like a black lace dress that i i would wear on halloween

00:55:06.020 but she's so lovely i don't know all right you're just rooting for her and it was like goth princess

00:55:10.300 they took the neckline of the original design down what did you make of lena dunham girls i

00:55:18.200 loved it what did you love about it um just she's being herself like unapologetically herself she

00:55:25.040 it's like an explosion it should be apologetic well i love that she came up in there with like

00:55:31.400 her ingrown hair scars and um her burn marks on her is that what that is the ingrown hairs on 0.99

00:55:38.820 the legs just she's got there's she's there's blemishes but she's owning it but the legs you

00:55:43.820 don't get blemishes on your legs what there's there's marks all over her legs that are very

00:55:48.000 weird i don't know what happened to her troubled person oh so they could be burns no there's who

00:55:53.340 knows i don't know either but i mean no maybe she's just a klutz and they are tiny bruises but

00:55:59.020 there were a lot of them and i found the whole thing very disturbing i just i don't think anybody

00:56:03.580 wants to see that i think it's so cool to accessorize with your skin problems because

00:56:07.900 we spend all this time like minimizing yes you want to show them off yeah hell no i'm against

00:56:12.840 it you know she and nicole kidman were doing kind of a similar look like secrets and feathers bright

00:56:18.240 rad and i think even though nicole kidman has like 20 years on her and is like a great hollywood 0.86

00:56:24.400 beauty lena kind of mogged because she looked so out there so you're saying lena dunham wore it 0.90

00:56:30.720 better yes oh wow people are gonna hate nicole kidman was kind of like okay it's fine she looked

00:56:36.440 like she was in an episode of white christmas yeah you know like at the end like okay but what

00:56:41.680 was special about it you know like what was there was a lot of looks like that and like the theme

00:56:46.520 i think ever since they tried to do camp and like no one could understand it they've made it

00:56:51.660 more and more this year it was fashion is art yeah whatever that means the dressed body they

00:56:58.800 kept saying which is like basically the bare minimum so they kept saying yeah the body that's

00:57:04.340 about the dress body and i was like well they all certainly dressed their body isn't that what all

00:57:08.840 fashion is the dress body and then you always you always have arena shake shank whatever yeah she's 0.99

00:57:14.720 always naked yeah i guess this time she was doing like the greco-roman sculptural torso thing it 0.98

00:57:20.900 didn't really hit for me but you know whatever pointed out whatever the occasion yeah yeah well 0.99

00:57:26.200 you can't you know i know but celebs are so dumb that they have to make the instructions really 0.88

00:57:32.000 foolproof and then they still manage to botch it every single time so this theme was so vague and 0.92

00:57:40.060 open-ended like i really loved hunter schaefer's look because it was inspired by gustav klimt

00:57:45.300 like vienna secession but you can't have a theme like that i don't know what nobody would understand

00:57:50.180 i don't even know who hunter schaefer is she's a famous transgender oh on euphoria was that the

00:57:56.720 oh that was the one no yeah you probably can't clock her that's why yeah yeah no i think she 0.53

00:58:02.000 shouldn't have looked he he should not be dressed like a nine-year-old girl i mean ever it's a

00:58:07.660 fantasy ew so gross no i object on behalf of nine-year-old girls everywhere no i it's a no

00:58:14.860 it's a reference yeah yeah but it's an offensive one look i like i don't i'm done with like what 0.93

00:58:21.040 the the woke trans the the one wheelchair bound transgender cerebral palsy what are they there

00:58:29.260 were like four other boxes that that person signed with what elite models like okay well 0.97

00:58:33.880 my question is if you're gay black trans have cerebral palsy to all those things cancel each 0.97

00:58:40.360 other out so that you become like the most desirable woman on the planet yes the most 0.99

00:58:44.280 crippled there she is right the most exactly right it's like that episode of modern family when they're 0.97

00:58:49.460 the two gay guys are trying to get their daughter their adopted asian daughter into school and 0.98

00:58:53.840 they're like we got this made you know we're gay we have an asian daughter she's adopted and then 0.99

00:58:59.320 in comes um lesbians one of whom is black they're like oh shit damn yeah she she's she out privileges 0.99

00:59:08.200 everybody they had the midget but i guess she works for vogue she's the midget the dwarf dwarf 0.99

00:59:14.120 sorry i can't the dwarf somebody can we put the dwarf somebody posted the the following

00:59:20.580 who who ate melissa mccarthy or someone put melissa mccarthy in the dryer

00:59:28.420 she shrunk like what's happening here why does she look so much like melissa mccarthy

00:59:35.340 only in miniature it's very strange i'm not sure what's happening with the with the waving

00:59:41.500 well what's really lacking ever since joan rivers died rest in peace is like no one now the met gala

00:59:49.100 is just they have the most banal commentary no one takes them to task for anything um who was

00:59:56.520 it who wore like the dollar bill Sarah Paulson Sarah Paulson with the dollar bill over her eyes

01:00:02.000 and it's like is that celebs are just getting away with too much yeah it's a comment on the

01:00:06.760 elite on the one percent oh how rich they are they're blinded by with her tens of millions

01:00:12.260 Sanchez yeah so she but she can she can comment on it yeah exactly you're at an event being hosted

01:00:16.760 by Lauren Sanchez but you're there under protest yeah is that what you're trying to tell us but

01:00:21.020 there was less of that there was no like AOC tax the rich dress there was it felt more I feel like

01:00:25.920 we're healing a little bit okay if only we could return actual celebrities to the met gala then

01:00:31.340 then we'd be all healed i was a little disappointed that um so ron mamdani and rama duwaji um

01:00:37.500 declined the invitation because he could have played up to you saw a lot of like south indian

01:00:41.960 heritage stuff going on yeah and she has such an art historical face she's like oh yeah it would

01:00:47.500 have been a great thing for her she looks disturbingly disturbingly like the man accusing

01:00:52.740 the woman at jc morgan they look like the same person i'm sorry i know that there are memes

01:00:59.980 online in which they've used ai to actually superimpose his face over hers but the actual 0.59

01:01:05.020 faces look disturbingly similar but i credit him for not going because i i think it's bullshit for

01:01:11.180 aoc or sarah paulson to show up be like i'm here but it's under protest good for him for being like

01:01:16.960 no i don't believe in that goodbye and his messaging yeah he's staying on task yeah he's

01:01:22.080 not going to get distracted with the galas i appreciate that i mean i don't really want him

01:01:26.440 to stay on task because he's ruining new york but i i appreciate the moral consistency of it

01:01:31.800 exactly yeah um okay so now what do we make of the baldoni lively settlement the the word is that

01:01:39.120 she just like this week hired this very heavy hitting litigation firm to try to telegraph

01:01:45.920 telegraphed to him oh I'm going to trial like I'll do it and not surprisingly his lawyer Brian

01:01:52.240 Friedman and team were not intimidated by that at all like he's an actual litigator who tries cases

01:01:56.640 all the time he's like great whoever you want but the truth is she could not let this case go to

01:02:02.060 trial she could not let him cross-examine her she could not take the stand she was about to

01:02:07.100 actually become Amber Heard and she had no choice but to act like she wanted to try the case all the

01:02:12.540 up until the end and then she basically her case got gutted by the judge three weeks ago when he

01:02:16.960 threw out all the sexual harassment claims and left her only with one tiny slice of it and by

01:02:21.700 the way baldoni was released from the case when the judge issued that so the only defendants left

01:02:26.060 were wayfarer his company and um the pr firm that they alleged was part of a retaliation campaign

01:02:33.920 against her by by allegedly pushing for bad press and his defense was going to be they never actually

01:02:40.360 did plant the bad press he hired them to get a game plan ready and they were absolutely prepared

01:02:45.820 to do it but they didn't have to because she did it to herself well right and that i believe that

01:02:51.520 now more than ever because she folded well she must have she she was at the mac gala yeah hated

01:02:57.900 her so she must have anticipated being available yes she looked like an orange sherbet like a like

01:03:04.760 a big sherbet you know they used to get when you were a kid with the three different flavors in

01:03:08.840 there yeah it was very weathering heights a movie i also yeah it's lazy to just do the long train

01:03:15.400 right it's been done she she snapped at the little mal male valets who are supposed to

01:03:21.600 flight splay it out the daily mail has this look there's a moment here look look here she goes

01:03:26.220 she's like no that's how i wanted it oh put it back down she just can't yeah get out of her own

01:03:33.920 way she needs the pr firm see this is why i can never be a celeb not because i have a poor work

01:03:39.780 ethic and uh suck at promoting myself it's because i could never be pictured on camera snap like

01:03:45.500 don't these people think of how it's gonna look because they're being photographed and filmed all 0.99

01:03:50.060 the time yes especially when your problem is people think you're a bully yeah yeah and a bully

01:03:55.580 of like lesser empowered men right so what does she do that's not the way it's supposed to be

01:04:01.360 I don't know what she said, but that's my own dialogue superimposed over her.

01:04:05.920 I think she meant to appear like, here's me in all my glory.

01:04:09.820 I'm back.

01:04:10.560 I've put this terrible thing behind me, and it's just not going to be that easy.

01:04:14.740 I mean, I just don't think the American public is that forgiving.

01:04:17.100 I think they're very angry at her.

01:04:19.320 I don't even know what this case is about.

01:04:21.960 Really?

01:04:22.420 Yeah.

01:04:22.800 What about you?

01:04:23.440 You're in the biz.

01:04:24.540 Not anymore.

01:04:26.140 You got pushed out.

01:04:27.560 but um i think i saw her giving like uh an interview on the vogue live stream where she

01:04:34.380 claimed she was shy oh god which seems i feel like yeah people can sense that she's disingenuous

01:04:39.940 but i think she'll continue to have a career because she's people ultimately even though

01:04:45.900 we have mixed feelings about divas they end up prospering diva is one thing mariah carey is a

01:04:54.440 diva i think j-lo is a diva you don't have to be talented to be a diva sometimes but they're

01:05:00.060 bullies that's different bully mariah is not a bully j-lo is not reportedly that much of a bully

01:05:07.060 is she i don't know okay i'm not gonna i'm not gonna slander um well anyway but what blake

01:05:15.680 likely is known for now as being a bully yeah just people don't like they really don't like that

01:05:20.340 it's not relatable like every character she plays you're going to be like who did she torture on

01:05:25.840 that set you know somebody with lesser power so i don't like her chances the optics aren't great

01:05:31.760 yeah they're not but i feel like she's in so deep she has no other choice than to dig her heels in

01:05:37.820 and like own her reputation oh interesting i don't think she's aware of what the reputation is 0.81

01:05:45.320 i think she's going to go out there and continue playing the fake me too card

01:05:48.680 last year at the time 100 she got up there and gave this big speech about how her mother was

01:05:54.060 allegedly a sexual assault victim wow and it was like okay this feels inappropriate because it's

01:05:58.840 your mom's story but okay and it was clearly an attempt to like glom on you know like that's

01:06:05.340 that's basically the same thing as it happening to me see i get it victimized by association

01:06:10.200 yeah so she like that's that's a year after she'd filed the lawsuit well not a year but it was a

01:06:16.100 months after and she'd been taking a beating already in the press and she still hadn't learned

01:06:20.440 this isn't going well so i just don't think she's i don't think she's that bright if i was her i

01:06:25.140 would say because the baldoni movie was about domestic abuse that ends with us i would say

01:06:29.140 that i was so deep in character that i got confused that i was so in having inhabited the

01:06:34.340 role oh i like that that i thought he was abusing me because i just i can go to that place with her

01:06:40.460 i mean i just i would like to watch her try to spin it at a minimum that's what i would do that's

01:06:45.340 what i would try to do all right by the way why is there no fallout for parker posey who was equally

01:06:50.080 bitchy in that one clip with the with a nordic journalist do you ever you know that yes wait

01:06:55.700 we have it look i'm going to show you well actresses have bad days la yeah uh this is from 0.86

01:07:01.320 2016 it was when they were promoting the woody alley film cafe society and this is one of the 1.00

01:07:05.780 things that brought such bad vibes toward blake she was so nasty to this sweet um i think she's 0.75

01:07:11.980 a swedish journalist someplace up there sweden norway um and she is not pregnant but blake 0.57

01:07:17.960 lively which you can't see in this clip but was known blake live is eight months pregnant in this

01:07:22.800 clip so she did what most journalists will do when there's something very prominent about your 0.95

01:07:27.400 guest and you make a passing reference to it just to get it out of the way for the audience

01:07:30.660 and move on and watch what happened first of all congrats on your little bump

01:07:36.740 Congrats on your little bump.

01:07:38.740 What about my bump? 0.79

01:07:42.140 You've got two nice ones.

01:07:44.360 And these, they are kind of bumps, aren't they?

01:07:47.380 No, not bumps.

01:07:49.100 The lovely lady lumps. 1.00

01:07:50.480 Check it out. 0.95

01:07:51.200 Thank you, thank you.

01:07:52.600 You like the movie?

01:07:53.740 Are you a Woody Allen fan?

01:07:54.820 I love most of his movies, and this one was so, like, visually amazing.

01:07:59.260 Yeah, it's gorgeous.

01:08:00.100 Did you guys love wearing those kind of clothes that you...

01:08:03.660 Yeah.

01:08:04.440 And, you know, working in digital.

01:08:05.960 He wants to talk about the clothes, but I wonder if they would ask the men about the clothes.

01:08:09.860 I would.

01:08:10.700 I love Jesse's suits and how he turns it.

01:08:13.480 That's what I'm saying.

01:08:14.340 His wardrobe was beautiful.

01:08:16.060 Oh, I know.

01:08:16.320 Corey's wardrobe was gorgeous.

01:08:18.220 Those high-waisted pants.

01:08:19.740 He's so great.

01:08:20.360 I would wish men wore high-waisted pants like that still.

01:08:23.720 Me too.

01:08:24.080 Or the father with his tank top in bed.

01:08:27.100 Oh, it's so good. 0.99

01:08:27.940 Yeah, it's not just the women that have the clothes. 1.00

01:08:31.420 I feel like the women get the conversation, but it's like... 0.97

01:08:34.280 Okay. 1.00

01:08:36.780 Parker Innocent.

01:08:38.220 She's being diplomatic and quirk. 0.95

01:08:40.020 She's trying to kind of save face.

01:08:42.320 What year is this?

01:08:43.080 It looks like it's from 2000.

01:08:44.620 16, but it didn't, what happened was Kijirsti, however you pronounce it.

01:08:49.900 She did, her company, her, whatever she works for in Norway, they did put it out at the time.

01:08:55.220 And then when she saw It Ends With Us and some of like the back and forth around her,

01:09:01.100 like the buzz around Blake, she's like, I'm re-releasing that clip.

01:09:05.960 And she actually said at the time, I'm leaving this business.

01:09:08.880 It's a disgusting business. 0.98

01:09:09.960 I hate it. 1.00

01:09:10.480 I hate the people in it. 0.99

01:09:11.720 Like, I'm just sick of this BS. 0.97

01:09:13.280 And she had had trouble getting pregnant.

01:09:15.480 So she really didn't appreciate the, like, your baby bump, you know. 1.00

01:09:19.020 So she left the business because an actress was a huge bitch to her? 0.99

01:09:22.420 No, I think it was just, like, one of the many straws, you know. 1.00

01:09:25.700 Like, I can't stand these people.

01:09:27.940 I mean, you've had to deal with these people.

01:09:29.860 Like, nothing bothers you.

01:09:32.460 I'm not a great fan of journalists either.

01:09:34.140 and they've treated me worse than actresses, to be honest.

01:09:37.940 Present company accepted.

01:09:39.200 Except for you, yeah.

01:09:40.320 Yeah, I feel like the press is the worst,

01:09:43.120 but Hollywood's not much better.

01:09:44.880 And speaking of which, we were laughing

01:09:47.140 that since I last saw you, you technically got canceled

01:09:49.740 because you committed the same sin as Tucker Carlson.

01:09:53.300 And he's coming on tomorrow.

01:09:54.600 I've got all the canceled people

01:09:56.200 because of Nick Puente's on the show this week

01:09:57.960 because you had the temerity to interview him Thursday.

01:10:01.660 Tucker's coming on.

01:10:02.300 Yeah.

01:10:02.420 Yeah. So and people were very, very angry because you're not allowed to like him because he's got this very racist strain when it comes to blacks and Jews and women and so on.

01:10:15.520 Racist, bigoted, whatever you want to call it. But he's got this other strain that is interesting.

01:10:20.780 And so but you're not allowed to say that. You can't even acknowledge it.

01:10:23.880 And you definitely can't interview it. Dasha, didn't anybody tell you that?

01:10:26.940 Well, I saw, yeah, I saw Tucker say that he regrets it.

01:10:29.880 And I actually also regret Tucker interviewing him because we had Fuentes on a month before and it wasn't, no one cared.

01:10:39.280 I wasn't in trouble at all.

01:10:41.220 And then when Tucker had him on, and I'm just kidding, but that's when the cascade of like denouncing started.

01:10:49.160 And then somebody went back and dug up your old interview?

01:10:51.780 Well, one person was especially upset.

01:10:54.540 That person was me.

01:10:56.280 No, in The Hollywood Reporter, there was that one guy who had been waging this crusade against me.

01:11:02.760 Anyway, it doesn't matter.

01:11:04.660 I get it.

01:11:05.640 I get why he's like a no-no person, why the liberal establishment wouldn't want you to talk to him, I guess.

01:11:13.240 I don't. 0.98

01:11:13.780 I think it's totally hypocritical.

01:11:15.160 When I was reading the remarks that Tucker made in his New York Times interview where he talks about how he regretted having Fuentes on,

01:11:21.100 and to me it was kind of like sour grapes even though i agreed with like other parts of the

01:11:27.920 interview um because he says the the reason he regrets it is because it was a distraction from

01:11:32.700 these other bigger issues the problems that are facing us are primarily economic not like

01:11:37.860 demographic in nature and i think he regrets it because you know let's face it nick fuentes is

01:11:43.500 much more popular among younger people he really owned talker he'll own anybody and he it's his

01:11:50.080 moment now he's ascendant but i don't find anything controversial about even his most

01:11:55.380 controversial remarks because they're very clearly meant as a half joke and it's irrelevant whether

01:12:00.680 he believes them or not and i think that the liberal media is totally like complicit in it

01:12:06.020 because they are fascinated by him much like they were fascinated by donald trump and they want to

01:12:11.580 keep him in the news because it feeds click yeah yeah they and they always talk call it describe

01:12:15.840 is far right which i'm like yeah and you know that's right but i understand why they're doing

01:12:20.120 it well they conflate it they also yeah but before we had him on our show there were two articles

01:12:24.240 um in the new york times about him one was about like gripers in the mag movement which isn't

01:12:30.480 really like the the nuances of how he even feels about trump are kind of irrelevant they just

01:12:36.540 really needed someone yeah he's blackpilled he's not red and he's not blue no my i mean my issue

01:12:44.460 with him and the reason that I was um had concerns about having him on our show was that I felt that

01:12:50.520 um he was kind of met an impediment to the the health and future of the MAGA movement and was

01:13:01.840 brought in or brought himself and I don't think he's even like a controlled or owned by anyone

01:13:06.720 I think it is organic momentum contrary to what his haters say um but you know he's a talented

01:13:13.360 broadcaster and i liked him personally but um my concern was always that he was brought into

01:13:17.880 or he brought himself into like kind of subvert or take the piss out of that um movement which

01:13:25.160 ended up kind of doing it to themselves a little bit movement yeah but it's like the same thing

01:13:29.360 you know it's the same thing as with trump with like trump derangement syndrome where the media

01:13:33.380 loves these guys they feed off of them and then of course they act all like um shocked and outraged

01:13:40.440 when someone else who's not on their team

01:13:42.560 entertains them or interviews them.

01:13:45.960 And by the end of that New York Times interview,

01:13:49.180 the reporter was positively haranguing Tucker about Fuentes.

01:13:54.140 She was very focused on the Fuentes issue.

01:13:56.660 Tucker definitely regrets it.

01:13:57.840 I think it's because he just blew up so much in his face

01:14:01.120 and it wasn't worth it for him.

01:14:03.040 I think he sort of thought he might be able to reach Fuentes

01:14:08.280 in a way that might be helpful

01:14:09.500 for the conservative movement.

01:14:10.700 I think that's what Tucker thought.

01:14:12.040 And that didn't happen.

01:14:14.120 And the bomb blew up in his face.

01:14:16.680 And he was like-

01:14:17.360 And I caught a total stray.

01:14:18.940 Yeah, yeah.

01:14:19.620 He's like, this wasn't worth it.

01:14:21.060 But I actually did,

01:14:22.120 I had my team pull this together.

01:14:24.180 This isn't because of you

01:14:25.080 and defending Fuentes at all.

01:14:26.620 I just want it.

01:14:27.340 I always say when we talk about him,

01:14:29.720 because I do feel the need

01:14:30.480 to accurately represent him.

01:14:32.920 There's no question

01:14:33.760 he's a very talented broadcaster.

01:14:35.340 And he's predicted a lot of things

01:14:37.320 happening in the political sphere correctly but there's also no question that he says things that

01:14:42.620 are extremely racist anti-semitic and misogynistic regularly so i actually just to show the audience

01:14:50.540 because i constantly make this reference and i don't actually put up here's just some of what 0.84

01:14:54.900 i'm talking about here in sat 17 we're already a non-white country get a grip get real bro this

01:15:02.160 is already we already live in Mogadishu we already live in Islamabad have you been outside 0.99

01:15:11.120 LA Chicago New York we live in nigger hell and that's just what and you know it's what it is 0.98

01:15:18.160 because everybody tells me you can't keep saying the n-word on the show they're like you can't 1.00

01:15:22.920 you gotta stop saying you gotta stop saying n-word faggot I'm like but it's so funny saying free 1.00

01:15:30.740 palestine bro free america one of these third world niggers gonna say that because when i see 0.99

01:15:35.880 50 million illegal spics and apologies for the slur see i can say that one because i'm mexican 0.95

01:15:42.900 it's not all you don't just get called the mexican white nationalist you also get to be 0.95

01:15:47.100 racist against mexicans all in favor of a fat race mixer who's married to a jeet who named his son 0.94

01:15:54.480 of that that's a reference to jd and usha there at the end yeah that is it is shocking shocking 0.99

01:16:00.960 yeah yeah are you being facetious i genuinely do find that shocking no no i guess it's extreme

01:16:06.020 certainly but it's you know in the like for people who watch his show it's all in the context of like

01:16:12.080 a stream and it's like i can't see a world in which any of that is not offensive like i i mean

01:16:18.060 it's meant to be offensive yeah i mean but i think he's also like revolting against um

01:16:24.460 the environment of like decorum and politics and like these arbitrary like moral pities that were

01:16:31.540 put in place by the democrats the liberals and yet in his like enclosed space of his show with

01:16:38.240 his audience he's obviously um totally offensive and no holds barred but kind of the most offensive

01:16:44.800 thing about him is that um once his reputation started to get rehabilitated he started walking

01:16:51.360 back a lot of these remarks did he yeah like now he's he likes to go on a stream or wherever and

01:16:57.140 claiming that he's not racist or he has no hate in his heart did he used to say i'm racist well

01:17:02.580 i mean i would i believe him because we've all said crazy outrageous things on our shows for

01:17:08.400 yes but there's what we say which is politically incorrect and doesn't like necessarily kowtow to

01:17:13.680 the woke left and then there's the n-word over and over and that j word for indians and you know

01:17:19.180 take your pick. Like I, and I can even give you the point that like, it's strange how much energy

01:17:25.380 we've put behind in particular, the N word, we've empowered that word well beyond what we should,

01:17:29.860 because it's just, we've given it too much power to hurt black Americans. You know what I mean?

01:17:33.840 It's like, I wish we could, we would disempower that word, but we haven't. And so to hear like

01:17:39.660 that, like a white man cannot be the one to, to disempower that word that has to be done

01:17:45.820 if at all by black americans and it's just like why do it why be that provocative because he's

01:17:50.820 also saying you know he's talking about blacks in the inner city in a way that groups them all and

01:17:56.360 you know he's got racial stereotypes he's got female stereotypes i mean all the things that 0.79

01:18:01.360 would lead any rational person to think you are racist you're sexist and you're definitely

01:18:06.920 anti-semitic he's a racist guy so he's really he's offensive yeah i don't i can't i wouldn't 0.65

01:18:12.520 argue with that yeah so that's so interesting to me but you just don't care if you like you still

01:18:17.220 just want to talk to him i mean at the time he was doing all he was going on a whole podcast circuit

01:18:22.980 he you know yeah it seems i felt that the overton window had shifted in terms of like

01:18:28.120 he didn't say things like that on our show yeah you know he didn't say things like that on tucker

01:18:32.500 yes well the things he says in the confines of his stream it's his stream i think this guy was

01:18:37.520 probably so I don't endorse it it was like so debanked and de-platformed that he felt comfortable

01:18:42.160 doing that because he probably felt he didn't have no way back and you know now that he's

01:18:47.020 yes Ben Shapiro did throttle him in the crib that's that's true and he was canceled and put

01:18:54.080 on the no-fly list for some reason when he was very very young I mean that'll have a way of

01:18:57.940 radicalizing people um but I had my team pull this yesterday I don't know if you guys I didn't

01:19:03.040 even tell you I might use it today but Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes interviewed the grand

01:19:08.660 wizard of the KKK in his hat in his little outfit with his pointy hat so it actually is

01:19:18.280 a time-honored tradition amongst those who do interviews for a living to talk to the most

01:19:23.280 controversial people in the world why wouldn't you the difference is Mike Wallace grilled him

01:19:30.480 you know and like sure held him i mean we pushed back i thought we talked about you know i said i

01:19:36.060 don't think the the jury is as like uh cohesive you know obviously there's left-wing jews and

01:19:41.700 right-wing jews and they have different interests and you know we pushed back on him but we don't 0.55

01:19:45.760 take this like um hysterical tone look there it is there it is and the spLC financed that in yeah

01:19:53.280 exactly exactly the spLC paid for that hat and everybody from noam chomsky to glenn greenwald

01:19:58.920 all these like you know it used to be it used to be the norm that um liberal jewish uh pundits

01:20:08.040 and journalists defended freedom of speech and said you know you can talk to anyone that was the

01:20:12.780 always the idea um so now now you have like i think you know tucker called it called called it

01:20:19.980 called it um childish and morally repulsive and it is because you have this like double standard

01:20:24.980 this hypocritical thing in place where you can't talk to these people under any circumstances but

01:20:31.240 yet the liberal media wants to um talk about them talk about them yeah but wait but like i can talk

01:20:37.780 to them but only if yeah you have this like to scolding hysteria yes well that's why i don't

01:20:42.520 want to interview him because i have no interest in doing the you know playing him that soundbite

01:20:47.140 yeah and having him explain all like i just i have no appetite for it whatsoever and i don't

01:20:51.480 think i could do an interview with him without raising all the stuff he says well did you see

01:20:55.020 pierce morgan yes i thought it was pointless i love peers but i thought it was pointless

01:20:58.700 well it's like then if if all these things are deal breakers for you as they are for me

01:21:05.760 then don't interview him then don't platform him don't promote him you know everybody feels

01:21:09.960 differently about it but i i have to be honest i care about like sexism if it's in the extreme like

01:21:16.460 i interview a lot of people who come on this show who are sexist i have to be honest i'm not going

01:21:20.080 to name them, but who I know have views of, you know, the modern American woman that I do not

01:21:24.480 share at all. It doesn't bother, like, I don't care. And I don't feel the need to make, to bring

01:21:29.160 it up every time they're on and make those the stakes of the discussion. I don't know. I find

01:21:34.560 them kind of interesting. But then when I think about like, would a black journalist ever want 1.00

01:21:40.760 Nick Fuentes gaining purchase in the mainstream or a black listener or viewer want that guy getting 0.53

01:21:46.940 purchased in the mainstream when you you know he's he's saying that word over and over like

01:21:51.880 he doesn't demonize all blacks from what i understand on his show yeah i think he's a friend

01:21:57.540 of the blacks i don't think he has like deep hate in his heart how about the jews though

01:22:02.300 well you know even the jews he says some of his best friends are jewish many such cases

01:22:08.100 i don't know um i don't i i have to be honest i feel like uh on this guy i've got one hand

01:22:14.060 tied behind my back because i don't watch nick fuentes i just know what others tell me and

01:22:18.600 victor davis hansen was the one who first told me that he uses the n-word all the time so i had

01:22:21.620 my team go back and check and sure enough he does not just that yeah hey he does and that and i feel

01:22:27.760 like he has upper limited himself by doing that you know no definitely you know he like karma

01:22:34.200 comes for everyone he's gonna have to pay for that down the line i'm sure he's aware he already

01:22:37.860 has um you know we caught a lot of flack for having him on because people felt that we had

01:22:43.420 softballed him and i don't think that we did that at all we did in fact push back on him but like

01:22:49.020 it would have been a totally different and less effective interview if we had come in hot you

01:22:54.520 know scolding and accusing you would have gotten nothing from him yeah yeah he would have clammed

01:22:58.140 right up well that's actually tucker's own defense for his interview of ted cruz he says the reason

01:23:02.980 he was very tough on ted cruz and not nick fuentes is because he was basically called an anti-semite

01:23:08.320 by Ted Cruz seven minutes in

01:23:09.980 and didn't really get things off on a good note.

01:23:13.700 Well, I understand.

01:23:14.600 You guys do something different on your show.

01:23:16.180 You're not confrontational.

01:23:17.460 It does seem like you'll talk to anybody.

01:23:19.020 And your whole thing to me,

01:23:20.440 now having known you guys for a while,

01:23:22.200 seems to be non-judgment.

01:23:24.720 You're just kind of like, meh.

01:23:26.680 I mean, we passed.

01:23:27.720 I mean, yeah.

01:23:28.980 You've got opinions.

01:23:30.380 Yeah.

01:23:30.820 But you're not,

01:23:31.300 I wouldn't describe you as judgmental of really anybody.

01:23:33.520 You're just kind of like.

01:23:34.460 We're judgmentally non-judgmental.

01:23:36.400 and I am a free speech absolutist

01:23:39.060 and I

01:23:40.280 you know think Nick is interesting

01:23:42.720 yes right that's your sin

01:23:44.520 that's what got you cancelled

01:23:46.860 in Hollywood right so your agency

01:23:48.380 dumped you

01:23:49.160 does that mean no more work ever

01:23:52.400 like nobody will hire you

01:23:53.380 I don't know

01:23:56.340 I think we'll see

01:23:57.800 maybe you'll self produce

01:24:00.860 your next project

01:24:02.360 I think that's what Blake Lively

01:24:04.480 is going to have to do

01:24:05.220 Maybe Mel Gibson could get in touch with me.

01:24:08.580 I know he's had some trouble.

01:24:10.120 Yes.

01:24:10.500 I mean, the whole institutional landscape is changing so rapidly.

01:24:15.100 And, yeah, there's a crisis of faith in every institution.

01:24:19.300 Nobody really, like, believes in Hollywood anymore except for, like, total NPCs.

01:24:23.560 Yeah, Hollywood's down pretty bad.

01:24:24.660 It's true.

01:24:25.580 It's true.

01:24:26.100 You see that with the Met Gala, too, by the way, when people, you know, are debating the theme and whether people executed it faithfully.

01:24:32.040 It's like, well, the Met Gala hasn't been an A-list event for at least a decade now.

01:24:38.560 It's a D-list event.

01:24:40.020 Yeah, I know.

01:24:40.840 It's embarrassing.

01:24:41.520 There's a reason Meryl Streep is like, it's a no again.

01:24:45.060 Sure.

01:24:45.700 OK, let's stand by.

01:24:46.760 When we come back, we're going to do the JP Morgan update, which is crazy.

01:24:50.000 Now this guy's back.

01:24:51.040 He's filed.

01:24:51.900 He's refiled his lawsuit and he submitted not one, but two affidavits from third parties

01:24:58.400 allegedly supporting his allegations against this gal.

01:25:02.140 We'll take it up next.

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01:26:50.400 and we've got to dig into the J.P. Morgan lawsuit

01:26:53.840 suit because it's back. So the plaintiff has been outed, even though he tried to go under

01:26:57.820 John Doe. His name is Chiraya Rana, and he is suing J.P. Morgan and its executive Lorna

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01:27:12.260 that she sexually harassed him, threatened him, held his bonus over his head in order to make him 1.00

01:27:19.140 give her oral sex and have sex with her in order to make him allow her to perform oral sex on him 1.00

01:27:26.280 while he allegedly cried the whole time uh he claims she roofied him yeah how do you have sex 1.00

01:27:33.240 with a roof and viagra also viagra did they i don't think that's how it works i agree i agree

01:27:40.880 i think this is one of the problems of his claims i think roofied means roofied yeah right i don't

01:27:46.260 think like so what like he was passed out you when you're roofied you can't lift your arms and legs

01:27:50.680 your appendages can't move right so just the the viagra goes just right to that one appendage

01:27:56.620 just like the one is at attention yeah and she's having fun with it while he's completely passed

01:28:01.300 out i don't think so that's that doesn't seem not adding on no it's this is such a um heartwarming

01:28:06.440 feel-good story though why after well after all the um friction and chaos of the last uh few news

01:28:14.560 cycles it's nice to have something that's like purely a meme back in the news and it's also

01:28:20.100 funny because it's like um actually like an epic media battle between our last two remaining papers

01:28:26.840 of record which are like the daily mail and the new york post the daily mail broke the story and

01:28:31.160 then the new york post debunked it yes and they're like really feuding over the scrap and it's also

01:28:38.240 obviously it's a newsroom drama it's a reverse me too i know it's got it all yeah so two things

01:28:44.920 now it has come out that he pretended his dad was dead to get bereavement leave from jp morgan

01:28:52.880 but the dad is alive and well and spoke to the new york post this weekend yeah okay so we must

01:28:58.620 point out this man in addition to the allegations of the complaint which make this clear has got

01:29:04.540 some serious credibility problems there he is with his parents his dad this is I guess recent

01:29:09.000 but his dad is definitely alive notwithstanding what he told JP Morgan which is that he's dead

01:29:13.780 and he needed a bereavement leave and I guess his defense to this is well I needed to write my

01:29:18.500 complaint I needed time to work on my complaint and I couldn't say that so I said my dad is dead

01:29:23.740 which why don't you just do it in your spare time that's what evenings and weekends are for I know 1.00

01:29:28.120 right so he probably wasn't very good at his job no and this is like so immigrant kid filling out

01:29:32.920 college admissions essay where like this is my sad immigrant story and also my mom has cancer

01:29:38.040 it's just like nick fuentes totally vindicated about his with his screeds on immigration because

01:29:43.820 it's like different honor codes though to the their credit when they interviewed the dad he

01:29:49.520 said my son he's a good boy great kid so they they don't throw their own family members under

01:29:56.960 the bus yeah i appreciate that yeah it's fine that's what i'm here for um okay but notwithstanding

01:30:04.420 that very bad piece of pr for this plaintiff it it emerges as he refiles his complaint which was

01:30:12.340 withdrawn for quote corrections that he's got alleged witnesses to lorna's supposed bad behavior

01:30:20.220 um and i'll go through a couple of them they're anonymous as far as we know but they have details

01:30:26.020 in quotes, and described alleged encounters between this guy, Chiraya Rana, and Lorna

01:30:32.960 over the relevant timeframe. Okay, in his new filing, one alleged witness, who appears to be

01:30:37.980 a family friend of his, says he was staying at an apartment while visiting New York City and was

01:30:42.140 woken up, this is the witness, by Hajdini's drunken antics in the middle of the night.

01:30:49.300 The other anonymous affirmation, seemingly from the owner of the apartment where the family friend

01:30:54.220 was staying right so you've got one of his friends and you've got somebody who owns the

01:30:57.400 apartment in which and she's all happening yeah uh claims that he saw Hajdini kissing

01:31:02.440 Rana's neck on the street sometime during summer of 2024 now that doesn't show harassment if it's

01:31:08.840 true it shows maybe they had a relationship of some sort um and then says in September 2024

01:31:15.480 she the owner of the apartment overheard them entering the apartment building recalling

01:31:18.820 Hajdini saying something that sounded like I own you brownie this is a theme all of the dialogue

01:31:27.500 that he has in his complaint to me reads exactly like what a very nerdy Indian guy who never had 0.93

01:31:33.080 any social life or girlfriend would imagine it would sound like if somebody were harassing him 0.78

01:31:38.500 or if people were leaving him voicemails like okay brown boy it's a total male fantasy of female

01:31:46.240 desire but also like with like a cultural with a racial psychosexual yes element right i mean

01:31:52.520 like he he wants it to be true that she's like uh threatening to ruin his life and like stomping on 0.92

01:31:58.180 his balls and her stilettos or whatever like even when the original story broke and i was reading 0.99

01:32:04.000 some of the dialogue and you know she was like fondling her breasts and referring to them as 1.00

01:32:08.060 canons no woman no matter how like assertive or high t or high powered like working in a man's

01:32:14.600 world ever would use that word no ever ever that is fan fiction it just doesn't make any sense 0.94

01:32:21.400 because like women all want to feel small and submissive in the context of like a sexual 0.76

01:32:25.800 scenario and even the small percentage of women out there who probably who might have like you

01:32:31.100 know dominant sexual proclivities they still don't talk like that and and i also take issue with 0.89

01:32:37.880 the notion that she forced oral sex on him and he cried the whole time? Bullshit. That did not 1.00

01:32:45.820 happen. I don't believe one word of that. But okay, I digress. It's not for me because I'm not

01:32:51.860 the jury. Okay, so back to the legal filing. The witness who said he was a family friend and came

01:32:58.380 for a visit in this apartment with Shirayu Rana. This is dad. Who knows? Says it was September

01:33:07.280 13th, 2024, or thereabouts. This guy attended a concert held at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn

01:33:12.260 with his brother. During the concert, my brother and I walked around to different parts of the

01:33:17.260 venue. At one point, I spotted Redacted sitting with a group. I think they mean the guy. I was

01:33:21.920 apparently one or two seating sections away from him at the time. I observed a woman sitting next

01:33:26.360 to him. Yeah, it's the two of them. The woman was very handsy, gals, with this woman putting her 0.88

01:33:31.940 hands on his lap, back, legs and lap again. In addition, she put her face very close to 0.98

01:33:38.260 and to his, I guess, and appeared to be speaking into his ear. He sat facing forward. He did not

01:33:44.320 look comfortable with the situation because I did not know the woman. I did not stop by to say

01:33:49.300 hello. Then later, this is the same witness, September of 2024, same month. I was visiting

01:33:54.760 New York. I stayed at his apartment. When visiting New York, I sometimes stay there.

01:33:58.160 um okay let's see on that night i had plans uh to go out for drinks together however when it became

01:34:05.680 late i went to sleep on the couch in the living room in the middle of the night i was awoken by 0.99

01:34:10.200 the sound of a woman who was clearly intoxicated and speaking very loudly i should have you read 0.99

01:34:16.500 this you're the actress shortly after uh redacted entered the apartment with the woman he's talking

01:34:23.300 about these two. He asked the woman to be, to please be quiet, but she loudly refused and said

01:34:29.020 she would not be quiet. He later told me that the woman was Lorna Hajdini, a woman with whom he

01:34:34.480 worked. He and Mrs. Hajdini, Ms. Hajdini went into the bedroom and I attempted to go back to sleep.

01:34:41.180 A short while later, I was awoken by Ms. Hajdini who was completely naked. Naked, I say. Ms. Hajdini 0.97

01:34:48.640 sat on the couch and lit a cigarette. It's possible. I can see it. She then asked me to

01:34:57.500 come into the bedroom with her. This is the third party witness and join them. I told her no. She

01:35:03.540 again said, come join, come join. I again told her no. She then said, you know, I own, what's his

01:35:11.380 name? So you'd better come join. I continued to say no. Eventually, Ms. Hajdini got up from the

01:35:18.100 couch and went back into the bedroom and closed the door through the door a short distance away

01:35:22.460 I could hear arguing and I could hear him loudly pleading with her to stop to leave and I heard 1.00

01:35:27.860 him say no no no you have to leave I'm not going to do this please stop she's already naked and 1.00

01:35:34.300 he's saying all this okay it became quiet then sometimes later sometime later she came out of

01:35:38.540 the bedroom left the apartment a few moments after that he came out of the apartment in a state of

01:35:42.560 shock and embarrassment he then told me about how she constantly harassed him and had forced him

01:35:47.340 to engage in sexual behavior with her on a number of occasions.

01:35:50.320 He told me she had frequently said things to him like,

01:35:52.380 I'm in charge of you and I will get what I need from you.

01:35:56.100 And if you don't comply, there will be trouble at the OK Corral.

01:36:01.620 He told me that this had been a big problem going on in his life for some time.

01:36:05.260 In later conversations, he reiterated his concern that she was blackmailing him,

01:36:09.380 forcing him to engage in sexual acts and also to provide help with her career

01:36:13.740 and that she constantly threatened to harm his career if he did not.

01:36:16.540 Although he was not comfortable explaining the specifics of his experiences with her.

01:36:21.300 I recall him telling me she had shown him naked pictures of herself.

01:36:25.460 He also told me on the night in September when I was staying there, she had sexually assaulted him in the bedroom.

01:36:31.820 That's basically it.

01:36:32.780 I don't believe one word of it.

01:36:34.200 Not one.

01:36:34.780 That's the allegation.

01:36:35.480 Not one, right?

01:36:36.040 Would any man, let alone a man who's involved in a lawsuit,

01:36:42.160 to not shoot down the opportunity to, like, Eiffel Tower a naked woman with his body?

01:36:48.400 I doubt it. 0.97

01:36:49.160 Wait, what's the Eiffel Tower?

01:36:50.460 When she beckoned him into the bedroom.

01:36:54.360 It's, excuse me, it's a.

01:36:55.420 It's a threesome?

01:36:56.560 Yeah.

01:36:56.880 Yeah.

01:36:57.340 Why does an Eiffel Tower mean a threesome?

01:36:59.120 It's a style of.

01:37:00.360 Sorry, I said that.

01:37:01.560 I feel so bad.

01:37:02.140 Because the way an Eiffel Tower is shaped.

01:37:04.820 Oh.

01:37:04.840 and sort of get it i could draw it for you we don't need to we'll talk later

01:37:09.880 yeah it seems totally fake but i i just i guess my question is like

01:37:16.020 what what's the purpose and did he really think he could get away with this

01:37:21.840 i guess maybe he thought she would just maybe they did have some though i doubt that also

01:37:28.380 honestly that they had some kind of relationship that she would be so ashamed that she would sort

01:37:33.540 of want it settled and she would just pay yeah morgan would pay yeah who do you think the witness

01:37:38.860 that this person is because if this you know if he's making this up he has now two witnesses who

01:37:44.820 are willing to lie under oath uh-huh or maybe he's making them up too he's like their family

01:37:49.640 friends cousins clannish clannish tribe his girlfriend in canada yeah and i i'm thinking

01:37:55.620 that they probably did have an affair you know usual like kind of like eric swalwell and his

01:38:01.860 former staffer yeah because he had to have had some leverage i doubt he made this up entirely

01:38:08.260 out of whole cloth but who knows my thinking is because all of the details are so kind of um

01:38:16.040 fantastic and humiliating and with the the wishful the wishful fantasy of this dominant woman yep

01:38:24.860 it's possible that he could just be lying all cloth because he has a humiliation fetish but

01:38:31.660 Even to admit any of this already would be so humiliating, but maybe that's the goal.

01:38:35.220 Here's what I want to know.

01:38:35.940 If any of this is true, why didn't he provide the evidence of it to J.P. Morgan when they

01:38:39.820 investigated it?

01:38:40.700 Nothing.

01:38:41.420 They say he provided nothing.

01:38:43.060 She gave full cooperation, that she gave her cell phone over, she gave all of her email

01:38:46.800 records, she gave everything saying this is a lie, and he gave nothing and was conveniently

01:38:52.280 unavailable to deal with them.

01:38:54.060 Okay, so it's fake.

01:38:55.460 Yeah. 0.99

01:38:55.960 Maybe he's just, maybe it's just the humiliation kink. 0.98

01:38:58.500 At most, yeah. 0.98

01:38:58.900 And he's just after chasing that.

01:39:01.660 He also, it has come out, went on one of those legal websites 10 months before this.

01:39:08.500 Yes, I saw this.

01:39:09.660 You know, like it wasn't legal film, but it was one of those type of, you know, where, and he plugged in all these details that kind of dovetail this lawsuit, except he described his harasser as a he and a man and said he was with Morgan Stanley, not JP Morgan Chase.

01:39:25.760 Okay, okay.

01:39:26.440 Yeah.

01:39:26.660 Now it's possible, I could argue that one both ways.

01:39:29.820 he had details that did that didn't jive like is your harasser this lorna or is it he

01:39:35.500 did this happen to you at jp morgan chase or at morgan stanley he's worked at like

01:39:40.060 multiple banks over the past 10 years which is also sketchy yeah in my opinion and um but i could

01:39:46.120 also argue it that maybe this helps his credibility because he went on a legal website and was looking

01:39:52.600 for legal advice on what to do with alleged harassment he was undergoing or maybe he knew

01:39:58.020 in advance that he would be

01:39:59.540 playing the long game.

01:40:01.760 Did the legal website not advise him

01:40:04.020 to report the evidence to

01:40:05.760 they connected him with a lawyer and I don't know

01:40:07.780 whether that's his lawyer.

01:40:09.720 Okay.

01:40:11.100 So who knows

01:40:11.980 all these months later.

01:40:14.200 Secondly, in the time we have left

01:40:15.960 there's a second witness. I've lived

01:40:18.040 in a one-minute apartment here.

01:40:19.980 This guy sometimes visits my apartment with

01:40:21.940 a family friend.

01:40:23.880 At some point I had conversations

01:40:26.040 with him. He mentioned an issue.

01:40:27.780 he was having a woman at work who was harassing him and trying to blackmail him. He was not

01:40:31.380 comfortable telling me details, but kept saying this woman was making his life hell. I told him

01:40:34.920 I wanted to see what this person looked like. And he showed me a profile picture. I believe it was

01:40:39.100 Lorna. Uh, around dusk, I was leaving my apartment one day. I saw her standing across the street at

01:40:44.300 the intersection. Oh no, not her, him, this guy. He appeared to be waiting for the light to change

01:40:48.960 to cross toward my apartment. He was with a woman. I recognized her to be Ms. Hajdini.

01:40:52.980 While they stood there, this woman was standing very close to him. She had her face in his neck

01:40:55.900 and appeared to be kissing his neck i also saw her grab his she grabbed his rear end his head was

01:41:00.520 turned away from the woman as if to avoid the interaction he did not appear interested in the

01:41:04.100 woman and i did not see him reciprocate in any way again this just sounds like just look at him

01:41:09.860 yeah why would a girl like that go for a guy like him and she's very good looking pretty

01:41:14.280 and provided the cell phone like that's what a truth teller does maybe this guy will prove us

01:41:21.700 all wrong and he will that would be interesting produce some it would be hilarious right some 1.00

01:41:25.900 silver bulletproof yeah she's so cute i know she's adorable and she's currently getting her 0.98

01:41:30.260 reputation ruined by this guy because he tried to go anonymous but he used her name at every turn 0.78

01:41:36.480 right and where is his fish head wife in all of this there's so many apartments that's right 0.53

01:41:42.480 that's a good question where is the wife that's right she's at the apartment soliciting his

01:41:47.680 friends for threesomes like where is the why that is a very good question had to cheat on his wife

01:41:54.300 what's going on this is a very relevant question thank you for asking that because that has not

01:41:59.960 been cleared up yeah i think you may have just cracked the case that may be the key detail that

01:42:04.060 does it well we'll continue to follow the saga because we want to know what happens uh so far 0.82

01:42:09.240 i think this is complete bullshit and i'm entirely on her side open-minded to being proven wrong 0.91

01:42:14.220 however. Okay, we are back tomorrow with, how about this for a turn, Supreme Court Justice 0.97

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