The Megyn Kelly Show - New Details About Biden Coup, CNN Loses Millions in Defamation Case, and Obama Drama, with Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 985

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00:00:31.000 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.900 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Friday.

00:00:47.300 Here with me in the studio for the full show, one of our favorites, Maureen Callahan.

00:00:50.940 She's a columnist for The Daily Mail and I'm going to get with her in our conversation in one second.

00:00:55.180 But first, I want to bring you guys all a special announcement.

00:00:59.040 As you may know, we're going to be doing our show from Washington, D.C. on Monday,

00:01:04.140 and that's because I am going to be going to the inauguration of President Donald J. Trump

00:01:09.960 as the 47th President of the United States.

00:01:12.940 Bring in the whole fam.

00:01:14.300 We cannot wait.

00:01:15.280 And then we'll be bringing you a show on all platforms right after.

00:01:20.200 So I'll have fun in the afternoon watching the president get inaugurated, and then we will go

00:01:23.820 do a show for you so that you can hear what we saw, who we talked to, and what it means for America.

00:01:30.380 And we'll have some of our favorite guests there as well.

00:01:33.020 It's going to air on Sirius XM PM at 6 p.m. Eastern time that day, and then we'll release it on podcast and YouTube.

00:01:40.480 But before the inauguration, which, as you know, is on Monday, on Sunday, I'll be joining President-elect Trump,

00:01:49.260 Vice President-elect J.D. Vance, Elon Musk, and more, speaking at the president's final rally.

00:01:56.640 It's his pre-inauguration rally.

00:01:58.100 He loves the rallies, right?

00:01:59.460 He doesn't have to have a rally.

00:02:00.520 He won, right?

00:02:01.440 But he loves interacting with his voters and his fans and the American people.

00:02:06.860 So they asked me to appear.

00:02:08.480 It's my honor to do it.

00:02:09.540 And I'd love to hear from you on what you'd like to hear me talk about.

00:02:14.340 They give you, like, around eight minutes.

00:02:16.680 It's not a ton of time.

00:02:18.240 And I'd love to hear what you would be interested in, right?

00:02:22.160 Because it is an opportunity to take the message to some people who don't always hear us talk, right?

00:02:27.380 Because the news media will have to take some of these speeches.

00:02:29.320 And then we'll take you behind the scenes all weekend on our social accounts, you know,

00:02:34.740 Twitter and Facebook and Insta and TikTok, all of them, if TikTok's around, which it's going to be.

00:02:40.660 I'm not, I don't actually think it's going away, even though the Supreme Court ruled against TikTok,

00:02:46.140 like, in favor of the ban.

00:02:47.380 In any event, it's going to be a historic event, historic long weekend,

00:02:50.720 and I am super excited to bring it all to you.

00:02:53.900 All right, now let's get to Maureen.

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00:04:00.300 So that's exciting, the inauguration.

00:04:03.000 It's very exciting.

00:04:03.560 It's very exciting.

00:04:04.580 And you just shared with me that it's moved indoors.

00:04:07.300 I can't believe it.

00:04:08.560 I mean, the ABC News is citing, based on a source, a report that it's moving indoors,

00:04:13.900 which I don't know if it's true, but if it's true, and please God, let it be true.

00:04:18.120 Praise Jesus, Maureen, because it's going to be 10 degrees on Monday.

00:04:22.060 And that's not the feels like, you know, when you go on your phone and you're like,

00:04:24.540 check the feels like for the real thing.

00:04:26.260 No.

00:04:26.440 And it would be, I don't think that's ever happened before, right?

00:04:29.300 No.

00:04:29.700 And they're telling you to get there no later than 8 a.m. for a noon inauguration.

00:04:34.860 And then that goes for an hour.

00:04:36.200 And then there's the parade afterward. 0.67

00:04:38.300 Like, I am such a wuss on the cold.

00:04:40.340 I've got that Raynaud's, you know, where you don't get the circulation on the ends of your

00:04:43.680 fingers.

00:04:44.320 Yes.

00:04:44.640 I can't last 10 minutes, nevermind six hours out there.

00:04:48.360 No.

00:04:48.980 So I really hope it's true.

00:04:51.160 We've got to get like a Jackie O fur muff.

00:04:53.400 Yes.

00:04:54.560 I got to tell you, I'm in favor of the fur.

00:04:58.040 I know PETA is going to yell at me. 1.00

00:04:59.220 PETA sends me a letter every week.

00:05:00.760 I said, I only eat the non-cute animals like chickens.

00:05:03.920 And they sent me a whole letter explaining why chickens are cute.

00:05:06.360 I called somebody a pig and they sent me a whole letter saying it's not, that's impolite 0.99

00:05:12.180 to pigs. 0.99

00:05:12.800 But pigs are smart, right? 0.99

00:05:14.820 They have no sense of humor. 0.98

00:05:16.300 They're not going to like my jacket that I'm wearing.

00:05:18.400 Well, you just, the trick is you say it's vintage, buy vintage, came to you through a

00:05:24.000 dead family member.

00:05:25.380 You're recycling, you're upcycling.

00:05:28.060 Right.

00:05:28.580 Yeah.

00:05:28.840 This one already gave its life.

00:05:30.440 What are you going to do?

00:05:31.320 Can't let it be in vain.

00:05:32.620 Exactly.

00:05:32.920 You know, but it is funny because like when I was at Fox, you would never wear fur.

00:05:37.520 You wouldn't, you wouldn't be allowed to wear fur in a, in a neck thing, in a, in a puff,

00:05:43.140 in a hat.

00:05:43.700 No, because it is so controversial still, or it was.

00:05:46.820 Now I feel like you've got the two sons of the president are big game hunters for God's

00:05:51.980 sake.

00:05:52.180 I don't think it's as controversial in that circle.

00:05:54.360 I don't.

00:05:54.680 And you know what the actual truth of it is?

00:05:57.180 And I learned this a long time ago.

00:05:58.700 If you go to buy fake fur, quote unquote fake fur, often it's made from real fur.

00:06:04.140 Oh really?

00:06:04.760 And the manufacturers just tried to sort of dupe you into thinking you're not wearing real

00:06:09.640 fur, but nothing gets, nothing will get through real fur.

00:06:13.480 You won't feel it.

00:06:14.440 I'm at the top of the food chain.

00:06:16.020 I'm sorry, but like what, where, why is it okay to eat animals?

00:06:20.620 You know, cows and lambs and ducks and chickens and pigs, but then you can't wear a fur.

00:06:27.960 I like, I realized some of the, the fur making process is controversial, but so is the, the

00:06:32.960 process of killing the animals. 0.63

00:06:34.720 100%. 1.00

00:06:35.160 So really cold.

00:06:37.300 Well, listen, I don't think he needs to justify this to anybody.

00:06:39.840 I really don't.

00:06:40.640 Apparently I do.

00:06:41.660 Be like Meghan Markle, stand in your power, stand in your truth and just go with it.

00:06:47.820 We'll listen to this.

00:06:49.180 It's true.

00:06:51.100 Trump just tweeted it out.

00:06:52.980 Trump says it was his call to move it indoors.

00:06:55.640 This is from true social.

00:06:57.260 Um, I didn't see the beginning of the post.

00:06:58.840 We must be talking about how cold it is.

00:07:00.480 Therefore I have ordered the inauguration address in addition to prayers and other speeches

00:07:04.960 to be delivered in the United States Capitol rotunda as was used by Ronald Reagan in 1985.

00:07:11.580 Also because of very cold weather.

00:07:13.260 Can we pull a video or a picture of that?

00:07:14.900 You guys, so we can see what that's going to look like.

00:07:16.240 We will open Capitol one arena on Monday.

00:07:20.920 Okay.

00:07:21.300 Look, that's the Reagan.

00:07:23.000 Well, so it's smaller.

00:07:24.100 I don't know how many people, how many people fit in the Capitol, uh, rotunda.

00:07:27.540 Steve, can you look that up?

00:07:30.020 And we're going to look it up so we can tell you, cause that's, that's going to shift events,

00:07:33.080 but it's smart.

00:07:34.240 Honestly, it was going to be dangerous.

00:07:36.400 He goes on.

00:07:37.000 We will open Capitol one arena on Monday for live viewing.

00:07:40.700 Oh, good.

00:07:41.160 Of this historic event and to host the presidential parade.

00:07:44.380 I will join the crowd at Capitol one.

00:07:46.640 Oh, that's so nice.

00:07:47.700 After my swearing in.

00:07:49.080 So he's going to go over with all the people who are traveling in to see it.

00:07:53.220 Yeah.

00:07:53.420 And the man loves being with the American people.

00:07:57.620 He really does feed off that energy.

00:07:59.500 He really does.

00:08:00.160 And it's like, it's also what a great, because we were just talking before going on air that

00:08:04.200 like, I'm going to cover it with like the regular rank and file press corps.

00:08:08.760 And I was dreading being on that riser in that freezing cold weather.

00:08:12.820 It's such a commonsensical thing to do.

00:08:15.620 And it sort of sets the tone for this like incoming administration, which is people just

00:08:20.020 want common sense to rule the day, you know?

00:08:23.880 That's a good point.

00:08:24.200 I know.

00:08:24.460 Because it's truly like being outside for six hours in 10 degree weather, people with

00:08:30.080 their young children, you know, you're just asking for negative things to happen, bad

00:08:35.140 things to happen.

00:08:36.040 It's not everybody.

00:08:36.860 It doesn't matter how many layers you bring.

00:08:38.140 And by the way, there's zero chance the Secret Service would allow space heaters.

00:08:42.440 Usually they don't allow bags bigger than, you know, a tiny little handbag.

00:08:46.480 So the thought of bringing something that could heat you up, like, forget it.

00:08:50.500 It's, and I don't even know if they would allow like a heated battery powered vest because

00:08:54.360 they're so paranoid, understandably, about, you know, what could that be something else?

00:08:59.960 Yeah.

00:09:00.320 What else?

00:09:01.140 So anyway, it wasn't safe.

00:09:02.780 Good call.

00:09:03.740 And I hope I'm still going.

00:09:05.540 I hope I'm still invited.

00:09:07.260 I'll go to the Capitol to read it if I have to.

00:09:09.160 I'm watching this thing.

00:09:11.260 Okay.

00:09:11.740 Where to begin?

00:09:12.660 Let's talk about the explosive New York times piece on Joe Biden and the effort to

00:09:18.620 coup him.

00:09:20.140 Okay.

00:09:20.620 You have to fill me in.

00:09:21.560 I did not see this piece.

00:09:22.380 That's fine.

00:09:22.800 So Chuck Schumer is now coming out.

00:09:25.700 Let me start out with this a little, little walk down memory lane.

00:09:28.400 When this past summer at the RNC in Milwaukee, the gang from ruthless came on the program,

00:09:34.520 my program.

00:09:35.940 And, um, they said, we're just going to break this news because everyone's talking about

00:09:41.140 it in our, like, you know, political circles, but no one will report it.

00:09:45.500 And this is what happened.

00:09:47.260 Chuck.

00:09:47.740 Yeah.

00:09:48.000 Well, I mean, so look, I, I think knowing Schumer, we have speculate what he does, but

00:09:52.440 I'm sure that he had poll numbers and all kinds of things indicating it was a huge problem

00:09:55.840 for the party down ballot, obviously.

00:09:57.540 And this is the moment, right?

00:09:58.480 Biden said, I'll resign if somebody shows me that I can't win.

00:10:00.940 So he goes in with polls.

00:10:01.720 So I think he took advantage of it and had this conversation, ultimately didn't get the answer

00:10:06.600 that he wanted.

00:10:07.180 When he came out of the meeting, he said, good meeting, which to me immediately was a

00:10:11.680 huge sign, right?

00:10:12.600 If you're meeting with a nominee of your party a hundred days before an election and you don't

00:10:17.240 say, I fully support Joe Biden.

00:10:19.360 And you know, he's twisting in the wind.

00:10:20.500 Yeah.

00:10:20.900 I fully support him.

00:10:22.020 Our conference supports him.

00:10:23.140 We can't wait to vote for him in November.

00:10:24.960 Something short of that indicates there's something else that happened.

00:10:27.900 And then what we found out when we got to Milwaukee, it's the worst kept secret.

00:10:31.980 Every single journalist, whether it's, you know, you name the publication, we've talked to

00:10:35.700 him over the last few days, every single person knows exactly what happened, but they asked

00:10:39.600 Chuck Schumer and it's a one-on-one meeting and he denies it.

00:10:42.600 So they're not reporting.

00:10:45.120 So there was a meeting and now it's all over.

00:10:48.280 The Times admitting Schumer did go to see Biden in Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, when he was still

00:10:54.120 hanging on.

00:10:55.200 He wouldn't yet step down.

00:10:56.560 And the headline in the New York Times is, I'm urging you not to run, how Schumer pushed

00:11:01.280 Biden to drop out.

00:11:03.120 It says, this is based on an interview with half a dozen people who participated in that

00:11:06.600 private push.

00:11:08.040 It's from an upcoming book called Madhouse.

00:11:11.580 Senator Chuck Schumer of New York sat in the foyer of President Biden's Rehoboth Beach

00:11:15.140 house, tired and tense.

00:11:17.160 He had not slept the night before and on the four hour drive from Brooklyn to Delaware,

00:11:22.480 he had rehearsed out loud what he planned to say and reviewing note cards as he prepared

00:11:26.720 for what he thought might be the most high stakes speech he would ever give to an audience

00:11:31.420 of one.

00:11:32.560 The roughly 45 minute conversation, which took place in a screened in porch overlooking

00:11:36.380 a pond, was more pointed and emotional than previously known.

00:11:40.600 He said to him, if you run and lose to Trump and we lose the Senate and we don't get back

00:11:45.620 the house, that 50 years of amazing, beautiful work goes out the window.

00:11:50.300 P.S.

00:11:50.560 That's what happened.

00:11:51.840 But worse, you go down in American history as one of the darkest figures.

00:11:56.980 He would end with a directive.

00:11:58.720 If I were you, I would not run.

00:12:01.240 And I'm urging you not to run.

00:12:04.280 He says, Mr. President, you're not getting the information as to what the chances are.

00:12:09.760 When he asked whether Mr. Biden has talked to his pollsters about his chances of winning,

00:12:13.320 the president shook his head.

00:12:14.300 Schumer says, well, I have talked to them.

00:12:17.560 My guess is you have about a 5% chance.

00:12:20.620 None of your pollsters disagree with me.

00:12:23.300 Only twice did Mr. Biden interrupt to ask a question.

00:12:26.380 And both times it was, do you really think Kamala can win?

00:12:31.460 Mr. Schumer said he didn't know, but that she had a far better chance.

00:12:36.240 The two embraces Mr. Schumer headed back to the car where he broke down in tears as he recounted

00:12:41.220 the meeting to his aides.

00:12:42.040 He didn't know what Mr. Biden would end up doing, he told him, but he felt he had gotten

00:12:46.300 through to him.

00:12:47.760 How about that?

00:12:49.040 By the way, they also report that Obama went to Schumer and said, you have to do it.

00:12:52.560 He's not going to listen to me.

00:12:54.560 He doesn't because of our fragile relationship, admitting they don't like each other.

00:12:59.400 The most surprising thing in that account to me is the detail that Schumer was driven and

00:13:05.180 did not fly private like so many of our politicians do.

00:13:09.080 I would suspect that that conversation was even more pointed.

00:13:12.920 That to me feels like a very polite version because it's easy to forget.

00:13:17.120 It wasn't all that long ago how stubbornly Biden was hanging on.

00:13:21.580 And I really believe that whether it was Schumer, Pelosi, the both of them basically said, we're

00:13:29.460 going to bury you.

00:13:30.380 Yes.

00:13:30.980 We know where the bodies are buried.

00:13:32.640 Like it's going to get very ugly if you don't voluntarily pull the plug you have until date

00:13:40.020 certain to do so.

00:13:41.300 That's what I think went down.

00:13:42.300 Like I, I'm dying to read the really bloody, savage Roman empire version of this. 0.99

00:13:48.820 Well, they also report that, um, Chuck Schumer demanded the meeting.

00:13:53.100 Yes.

00:13:53.360 Because Obama asked him to do it and said, I can't be the one.

00:13:56.140 He's not going to listen to me.

00:13:57.320 Um, because his members in the Senate, he, he said, quote, I cannot hold them back anymore.

00:14:03.400 Remember when Biden sent that letter?

00:14:05.640 I think it was January 8th.

00:14:06.740 They dated it as saying it's, it's done.

00:14:09.040 Stop.

00:14:09.540 It was a bad night.

00:14:10.500 July, July 8th.

00:14:11.320 It was like, it's done.

00:14:12.560 Move, move on.

00:14:13.480 I'm fine.

00:14:14.080 I'm staying in it.

00:14:14.880 Like put on your big girl pants. 1.00

00:14:16.580 We're going forward.

00:14:17.660 And he kind of declared the debate over.

00:14:20.220 Well, this is saying that behind the scenes, the, it wasn't over.

00:14:24.920 And it, the, the top senators were in a tailspin understanding that he couldn't do it.

00:14:31.500 And they were about to write a letter saying that he needed to step down and that Schumer

00:14:36.980 was saying to Biden, like, you don't want that there.

00:14:40.440 They're going to come out on Moss against you, Democrat senators.

00:14:44.440 And they also reported that Senator Jack Reed of Rhode Island in the news this week for

00:14:48.840 being the top damn cross-examining Pete Hegseth on the Senate, uh, armed services committee.

00:14:54.540 Remember, he was the one who was like, I voted for all the nominees and of every president 0.96

00:14:59.980 since I've been on, uh, this, this committee, you know, 20 years ago.

00:15:04.540 And I don't think that you can do it.

00:15:06.880 Mr. Hegseth.

00:15:07.420 He was, he was the worst white mic technique ever. 0.99

00:15:11.160 Like right when he got into all the juicy parts, he pulled way back.

00:15:15.060 And we were all like, what?

00:15:16.560 But I'm sure Hegseth was happy.

00:15:18.580 So anyway, um, Jack Reed, who, um, is a West Point grad, former paratrooper, apparently said

00:15:26.420 he could no longer support his commander in chief unless Mr. Biden could produce two neurologists

00:15:32.620 to issue a public report saying he was fit to serve and then hold a news conference where

00:15:37.780 anyone could ask questions.

00:15:39.280 Where were these effing reports at the time?

00:15:45.300 Nevermind before the June debate.

00:15:47.820 Agreed.

00:15:48.340 Agreed.

00:15:48.900 And also, so two things.

00:15:50.420 One, I want the Jill Biden story.

00:15:52.800 I want the full unabridged Kitty Kelly National Enquirer version of all the machinations going on.

00:16:00.460 I want to know why we are now being subject by this very same media that claims to have learned

00:16:08.320 its lesson to the longest goodbye in modern American history to one of the worst presidents.

00:16:14.540 Like this feels like the breakup that will not end.

00:16:17.820 Like America broke up with him after that debate.

00:16:20.720 And then we made it really final after the election, which really was like Biden 2.0 with

00:16:26.960 Harris.

00:16:27.340 Like I forgot it was Harris actually, because I keep thinking like we left you.

00:16:32.680 We don't want to litigate this relationship anymore.

00:16:36.160 There's not good stuff.

00:16:37.400 But he's still out there trying to make his closing argument about how great he was and

00:16:40.840 how what a threat Donald Trump is.

00:16:43.100 I mean, what I do think is interesting, too, about this is it does confirm Biden's got some

00:16:48.040 political instincts asking twice, do you really think Kamala can win? 0.93

00:16:53.240 He knew he couldn't admit to himself that he was going to lose given his infirmity.

00:16:58.880 But at some level, he still knew she's not the answer.

00:17:03.980 And, you know, reportedly Obama knew that, too.

00:17:07.420 It's like, where's the in-depth piece on like who ultimately said it must be her?

00:17:13.760 Like she's it's got to be Kamala because of the black women in our party, whatever. 1.00

00:17:19.480 Like, how did they allow themselves to get in that position?

00:17:22.100 First of all, right.

00:17:23.460 If you don't think she can do the job, why are you picking her for your VP?

00:17:27.260 Right.

00:17:27.500 So insurance policy.

00:17:28.640 Exactly.

00:17:29.220 His insurance policy.

00:17:30.420 And it's also it goes to why DEI is falling apart all over the place right now.

00:17:34.100 Yeah.

00:17:34.260 And secondly, what I remember Pelosi saying, because remember when she was doing the rounds

00:17:39.760 and she was going, well, if Joe thinks she's the best, then she's the best.

00:17:44.580 She's the best choice.

00:17:45.600 Like she wouldn't say it.

00:17:46.420 Nancy Pelosi with like her her her whole sort of like it's really time to go.

00:17:52.540 Every time I see her interview, she's got like a dirty tissue clunk in her hands. 0.76

00:17:57.700 Like, you know what I mean?

00:17:58.840 It's like, just go.

00:17:59.820 Just go.

00:18:01.380 Don't get go.

00:18:02.200 Don't get Feinstein'd out of office.

00:18:03.660 It's where we can see with the eye and the wheelchair. 0.53

00:18:06.120 And it's just have some dignity.

00:18:07.540 Have some dignity.

00:18:08.740 But to the Kamala thing, what I remember Pelosi saying was like, oh, she's smarter than you

00:18:14.980 think because she spent that Sunday in which she told the American people her first question

00:18:20.120 to Joe when he called was, are you sure?

00:18:22.420 Are you sure you're going to drop out?

00:18:24.180 She hung up the phone and she started whipping calls. 0.99

00:18:26.520 Yeah.

00:18:26.780 Whipping calls and getting the party right behind her.

00:18:29.560 She got him to endorse her.

00:18:32.140 Remember his announcement?

00:18:33.060 I'm leaving came.

00:18:34.200 And then within five minutes came the, oh, and I endorsed Kamala, which I think most

00:18:38.920 Democrats would tell you is what did it, that they couldn't have an open primary after Joe

00:18:43.180 Biden's like, I endorse Kamala.

00:18:45.100 That would have been a little awkward.

00:18:46.680 So why?

00:18:47.580 How did she get him to do it?

00:18:49.160 How did she get Joe Biden, who clearly did not believe in her, to issue that?

00:18:53.720 I don't know.

00:18:54.000 Maybe she hung over his head like, I know how mentally compromised you've been all this

00:18:59.660 time.

00:19:00.020 You know, again, she knows where a lot of those bodies are buried as well.

00:19:04.480 And she, I think, also knew that in this sort of strategic warfare that is this game, it

00:19:11.680 would be Biden's ultimate F you to Obama, who never thought Biden had what it took in the

00:19:16.620 first place.

00:19:17.180 I just feel like you're right.

00:19:19.520 We need to know, how is it that Jill Biden somehow didn't see what all these senators 0.62

00:19:25.160 saw?

00:19:26.180 Why?

00:19:26.880 Who else demanded that two neurologists evaluate her and release their report?

00:19:32.580 Right.

00:19:33.060 And when did they know?

00:19:34.960 Because it wasn't just that debate.

00:19:36.260 It's they've totally gotten away with it.

00:19:38.420 They've Trump won, but there's been no accountability in there and there won't be.

00:19:42.620 And the same media, you know, who failed to notice that a neurologist came to the White House

00:19:46.500 eight to 10 times over the previous year, didn't break this story.

00:19:51.220 They didn't even break the fact that Chuck Schumer met with Biden.

00:19:55.640 Ruthless broke that.

00:19:57.200 Now, here we are as he's about to leave office.

00:19:59.800 Right.

00:19:59.980 It's too late to to 25th Amendment him out of office.

00:20:03.400 He's about to leave.

00:20:04.400 Now, finally, we get the we all knew that he can't put two sentences together.

00:20:09.100 We were demanding neurology reports behind the scenes.

00:20:12.480 It's the biggest political story of the last 20 years, I think.

00:20:16.840 I really do.

00:20:17.780 And I don't understand how, as a reporter, you could just shy away from it.

00:20:22.620 I mean, again, if this were a Republican, I mean, all the gloves would be off.

00:20:27.780 You know, he would have been 25th Amendmented or forced to resign.

00:20:31.940 And the whole thing, too, about letting him play out his term as though, well, we owe it to him.

00:20:37.620 I know.

00:20:38.080 I'm sorry.

00:20:38.660 He works for us.

00:20:39.660 Right.

00:20:39.960 It's not the other way around.

00:20:41.220 We don't owe him anything.

00:20:42.300 We don't owe him anything.

00:20:43.880 You got all the money from selling out, you know, national security.

00:20:49.520 We have the book.

00:20:50.140 This is how this is how much, though, I think people have Biden fatigue, like those photos

00:20:55.080 that came out of Biden and Hunter with those Chinese businessmen where he had said multiple

00:21:00.460 times, I never facilitated a meeting.

00:21:02.360 I was never present at a meeting.

00:21:04.000 But like nobody cares.

00:21:05.580 It's just like, just go.

00:21:06.780 Right. 1.00

00:21:07.160 Take your dirty money and your dirty family and go. 1.00

00:21:10.340 Yes. 0.99

00:21:10.760 Well, that's what I don't know if you saw this, but Scott Jennings was on CNN yesterday

00:21:14.100 asking, I wasn't Scott Jennings saying, how did he get rich?

00:21:17.660 So who was it?

00:21:18.340 It was somebody on CNN saying it was Kevin O'Leary.

00:21:21.560 Yeah.

00:21:21.880 From from Shark Tank saying, how how does where did all of his money come from?

00:21:27.560 The guys here, we have it.

00:21:28.780 Actually, let's watch it.

00:21:30.020 It's not about Kevin.

00:21:31.160 It's not about not letting people get rich.

00:21:33.540 It's about not letting rich people control the political process and not having our politicians

00:21:37.740 captured by those rich people.

00:21:39.240 Such as they can't institute regulations and common sense laws to make sure that the people

00:21:45.180 at the top don't abuse the people at the bottom.

00:21:47.940 I mean, our system in Washington is broken.

00:21:50.040 That's fair.

00:21:50.720 It's all fair.

00:21:51.360 But half the country's still wondering how Joe Biden got rich.

00:21:53.840 Yeah.

00:21:54.140 OK, so how did he get rich?

00:21:55.620 If Joe Biden got rich, how did he get rich?

00:21:58.760 Does anybody understand how the house house in time is rich?

00:22:00.980 Kevin, your question about Joe Biden's legacy and how he will be seen is actually extremely

00:22:05.900 important.

00:22:06.340 And yeah, and it's not going to turn out the way Abby Phillip wants it to.

00:22:11.260 So how did he get rich?

00:22:12.620 Does anybody know how he has the Porsche and the Rehoboth Beach Beach House and Hunter Biden

00:22:19.520 has all these millions from never really having any sort of successful career?

00:22:24.480 Um, no one seems to much care on the Dem side.

00:22:28.260 Nobody cares.

00:22:28.860 The vintage Corvette that Biden loves to brag about the when the fires were raging.

00:22:35.100 I mean, they're still ongoing.

00:22:36.280 But when they were raging and Biden finally showed his face and said, I've got one piece

00:22:41.460 of good news.

00:22:42.420 You know, my son lives here and looks like his house is still standing like, oh, you mean

00:22:46.160 that like Malibu beachfront house that like his sugar daddy paid for?

00:22:52.160 Like, are you kidding me?

00:22:53.660 I mean, I would love to also know how Nancy Pelosi got so rich.

00:22:57.440 Well, did you see it?

00:22:58.000 So Biden, one of the comments he made in his farewell address was about stopping, uh, trading

00:23:02.640 from U S congressmen.

00:23:04.400 And many have speculated that was a shot at her, you know, cause obviously she was the 1.00

00:23:08.220 one who really took him down with her public pronouncements of let's just let wait, give 1.00

00:23:11.920 him time to decide after he'd said 10 ways from Sunday, I'm staying right.

00:23:16.100 Um, so I actually agree with that principle.

00:23:18.500 I don't understand how these people can have inside information about what's going to happen

00:23:21.720 on the law and to the certain companies and they're allowed to trade on it.

00:23:24.280 That is called insider trading.

00:23:25.740 If you were, I'd do it here was Biden last night.

00:23:29.320 It's the long goodbye to your point.

00:23:31.060 And he sat after his farewell address.

00:23:33.120 There was another address.

00:23:34.140 This was like the dessert, um, with Lawrence O'Donnell.

00:23:38.180 I can't wait to see what the ratings were for this.

00:23:40.100 And okay, here's, here's why Biden thinks he's leaving with a record low approval rating,

00:23:47.840 right?

00:23:48.240 That wasn't how it was teed up, but he does FYI have a record low approval rating.

00:23:52.320 And the, here's how he's looking back at his, as his term in office and the regrets that

00:23:57.900 he he's feeling.

00:23:59.400 This is a side two.

00:24:01.700 Did it cross your mind to put your name on the checks?

00:24:04.400 According to that, I kept being here from other people.

00:24:09.320 President sent me a check for $7,500.

00:24:12.200 The president did it.

00:24:13.820 Why aren't you helping me?

00:24:14.800 Well, it was a bill we did, but anyway, it did cross my mind.

00:24:19.400 But what a, what a mistake we made was, I think I made, was not getting our allies to acknowledge

00:24:31.140 that the Democrats did this.

00:24:34.640 Ironically, I almost spent too much time on the policy and not enough time on the politics.

00:24:44.380 That was his problem.

00:24:46.040 He wasn't self-promotional enough.

00:24:48.640 Well, he did only have four hours a day that he was working.

00:24:51.140 That's just true.

00:24:52.320 That's in his defense.

00:24:53.920 So, I mean, we got to give him some grace.

00:24:55.720 Can you imagine if you'd been doing that interview and responded with that?

00:25:01.140 I just wish, for one, someone would just give it right back.

00:25:04.960 Like, this is related, and then we'll go right back to this.

00:25:07.680 But the other day at the Hegseth hearing, and you covered this, when the, I forget which

00:25:12.500 congressman or senator said, hey, how many of you have shown up on the floor drunk to

00:25:18.520 cast a vote?

00:25:19.140 Like, while they're going on with, like, have you cheated on your wife?

00:25:22.200 Like, how many of them are cheating on, like, it's a bastion of moral authority. 0.98

00:25:25.620 Get the F out of here. 0.98

00:25:26.840 So, anyway, the Lawrence O'Donnell interview was also, he's such a blowhard. 0.99

00:25:31.700 He's such an insufferable, overfed blowhard. 0.86

00:25:35.380 Like, he begins the interview by saying, you know, when you were giving your farewell address 0.97

00:25:40.220 the other night from the Oval, I was right there.

00:25:42.560 I was sitting right there with your family, and I was looking at you. 0.99

00:25:45.460 Like, he has to let us know he was in the room before we can begin with this bullshit 0.99

00:25:49.360 proceeding. 0.98

00:25:50.300 You're very important, Larry.

00:25:51.080 Thank you.

00:25:51.340 You're so important.

00:25:52.220 You're on your way out the door.

00:25:53.280 Your network is failing.

00:25:54.900 Great.

00:25:55.220 Okay, enjoy your time in the sun.

00:25:57.480 But it really goes, like, Biden is part Irish or largely Irish, and it's, like, completely

00:26:03.640 counter to the notion of the Irish goodbye.

00:26:06.400 Yes.

00:26:06.740 Which is, like, my favorite thing to do, which is, like, you just sneak out.

00:26:10.440 Nobody knows you left.

00:26:11.580 You don't have to go through the whole rigmarole of blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:26:15.000 And I would love that for him.

00:26:17.160 It would be such a great look.

00:26:18.380 Just fade away.

00:26:19.720 Right.

00:26:20.200 Like, we've asked you to.

00:26:20.980 It's funny.

00:26:21.260 We have a friend who does it all wrong where he's like, I'm doing the Irish goodbye. 0.99

00:26:25.700 That's not it.

00:26:26.980 If you say it.

00:26:28.540 It's not it.

00:26:29.380 That's not it at all.

00:26:30.900 Here's more.

00:26:32.320 You remember one of his other big things the other night when he gave his farewell address

00:26:35.300 was we have this tech oligarchy in this country now.

00:26:39.500 It's a very dangerous thing for all sorts of reasons, mostly because they're supporting

00:26:43.360 Trump now.

00:26:44.520 But Lawrence O'Donnell asks him about oligarchy, and he does not appear to have any idea what

00:26:51.820 it was he was talking about.

00:26:53.280 Watch.

00:26:54.400 How does this oligarchy affect people out there who've never used the word oligarchy?

00:27:01.900 The people who you're saying might not get a fair shot because of the way this is going.

00:27:06.300 Look, if the decisions made that the multi-billionaires, the super, super wealthy, the wealthiest people

00:27:21.080 in the world, begin to control all the apparatuses from the media to the economy, then who do

00:27:31.740 I get to fight back for me?

00:27:34.540 Who do I get to?

00:27:35.500 I mean, look, I think everybody deserves just a shot.

00:27:40.980 Not a guarantee, just a shot.

00:27:43.440 How the hell can you make it in society today if you don't have access to an education?

00:27:50.760 You don't have access to adequate health care.

00:27:53.260 You don't have access to the opportunity to have a job that you can handle, where you can make ends meet.

00:28:03.260 How's that Elon Musk's fault?

00:28:05.500 If you have a job you can't handle, like Biden can't literally handle being president,

00:28:10.900 the hypocrisy, okay?

00:28:14.420 So it was Biden's administration that went to Facebook and said,

00:28:20.620 that laptop, Hunter laptop, that's a Russian plant. 1.00

00:28:23.620 It's fake news.

00:28:25.280 They're the ones.

00:28:26.360 Twitter disabled the New York Post account because the Post was the only one reporting on it.

00:28:31.800 And it was fake news, fake news, fake news.

00:28:33.580 It's a media that's been in lockstep with him and has been censoring stuff that they don't quite like.

00:28:39.860 You know, so spare me.

00:28:41.660 Yeah, spare me.

00:28:42.320 Is this because Mark Zuckerberg grew his hair out and said he's getting rid of DEI and censorship?

00:28:46.440 That's what he's, and now he's part of the oligarchy?

00:28:48.820 Right.

00:28:49.280 That keeps the little man down and from getting a job?

00:28:52.040 Right.

00:28:52.240 Like, what?

00:28:52.620 Right.

00:28:53.100 No.

00:28:53.560 Oh, Megan, the searching.

00:28:55.480 What?

00:28:55.620 Like, he was, like, nodding off.

00:28:56.940 Yes.

00:28:57.120 It's almost like a junkie, like, nodding off and then, like, springing back up and, like,

00:29:01.360 the eyes casting about for the word and then the, like, phrase that connects to the thought,

00:29:06.660 but the thought got lost.

00:29:07.840 I mean, it's like...

00:29:08.520 He found, like, his favorite little bit.

00:29:10.240 Like, everyone deserves a shot.

00:29:11.520 Oh, yeah, I'm familiar with this.

00:29:12.600 This is in there.

00:29:13.320 Right.

00:29:13.820 I've got the chip for this one.

00:29:14.880 Right.

00:29:15.380 By the way, Kamala Harris just did the same thing. 1.00

00:29:17.120 I'll play it in a minute, but let's stick with Biden for now.

00:29:19.200 Because listen to this one.

00:29:20.220 Speaking of him just being out there, like, gone, the question was about what Bo, his son

00:29:26.620 who is deceased, would say to him, and would you listen to this?

00:29:33.480 Look, Bo is a better man than I am.

00:29:39.560 Well, Bo and Hunter have always had faith in my instincts, but I think you've heard Barack

00:29:55.220 get mad at me when I was a kid all the time.

00:29:57.100 He said, I know, I know, all politics is personal.

00:29:59.800 Yeah.

00:29:59.980 Well, it's about understanding what motivates the other guy, other woman, and what their

00:30:09.740 interests are.

00:30:13.260 What?

00:30:13.780 I don't understand that.

00:30:14.840 I don't understand.

00:30:15.360 I thought maybe you got it, because I got lost early on.

00:30:18.760 I have nothing to add.

00:30:20.600 I can't be helpful.

00:30:21.760 Did he say, like, Barack used to say to me when I was a kid?

00:30:24.860 That's how it sounded.

00:30:25.680 Did I think he meant, I used to kid, I used to kid, or he used to kid me?

00:30:30.720 I, very unclear.

00:30:32.540 And he also spoke about Bo in the present tense, right there.

00:30:36.380 I mean...

00:30:37.360 I blame Jill Biden. 1.00

00:30:38.680 I blame her.

00:30:39.940 You do?

00:30:40.440 Yeah.

00:30:40.980 I would never let this happen to my husband.

00:30:42.520 Oh, for this?

00:30:43.280 For this, like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:30:44.720 But neither one of them can let go.

00:30:46.480 Yeah, but at least he's got the excuse of being infirm.

00:30:49.200 Like, she's still a young woman-ish.

00:30:50.740 She's not young, but, like, she's 74, I think.

00:30:52.360 She's 74, but I also...

00:30:53.720 She's together.

00:30:54.100 She can see what's happening.

00:30:55.860 Oh, 100%.

00:30:56.660 But I also would not rule out Biden's malignant narcissism and egotism.

00:31:02.040 And I think, you know, this will sound crass, but I truly think it's true.

00:31:07.080 The only thing keeping him alive at this point is presidential power.

00:31:10.760 Yeah.

00:31:11.180 And access to the money and the celebrities and all of it.

00:31:16.120 And the glory he gets from reading the news coverage of his administration, which mirrors

00:31:21.540 back to him, it's exactly why, like, he wasn't believing Chuck Schumer, because apparently

00:31:26.180 his team was only supposed to give him good news.

00:31:29.320 Yeah.

00:31:29.680 They kept all the bad polling from him.

00:31:31.440 It's like, even in the wake of that debate, that was a dereliction.

00:31:34.120 But the Democrats paid a very high price for that dereliction.

00:31:37.120 Can we play that Kamala Harris soundbite, you guys, where she goes back to her standard 1.00

00:31:41.320 words that we heard throughout the campaign?

00:31:43.940 She's speaking out now, promising she's not going to go quietly.

00:31:47.320 So that's interesting.

00:31:48.020 And of course, she too only has, like, she's uncomfortable until she finds the chip in her

00:31:53.920 brain with the pre-rehearsed lines that her handlers have approved.

00:31:57.460 Here it is.

00:31:58.400 I am fully aware that I am the public face of a lot of our work.

00:32:03.600 And so I have the benefit of running into people all over our country who thank me.

00:32:08.960 And I will tell you, I am fully aware that when they are thanking me, they are thanking

00:32:14.900 our team for the extraordinary commitment that you each have and as a team have to lifting

00:32:23.440 up the American people, lifting up their condition, lifting up their hopes and dreams and understanding

00:32:32.700 She did it all the nobility of public service. 0.97

00:32:39.500 The hand gestures are getting even bigger.

00:32:41.700 They are.

00:32:42.220 She looks like she's signing ASL, like some press conference for a governor, you know, like get out. 0.90

00:32:47.460 And by the way, it's not like you would ever know that a major American city is being burned to the ground.

00:32:54.480 Like, it looks like it's been hit by a nuclear bomb.

00:32:57.200 Yeah.

00:32:57.440 You would never know.

00:32:58.420 No.

00:32:58.680 These people are, like, congratulating themselves on the way out the door.

00:33:01.520 No, look at me and my legacy, but I just should have focused more on politics, not my great

00:33:05.780 policies.

00:33:06.540 And everyone's thanking me everywhere because of hopes and dreams.

00:33:10.380 Right.

00:33:11.060 That's it.

00:33:11.840 God, did we dodge a bullet with her.

00:33:13.760 And I don't know if you played the soundbite from her the other day telling Californians what

00:33:17.800 to do, which was like. 0.93

00:33:19.380 It was totally inane.

00:33:20.380 We did not play it.

00:33:21.180 I don't.

00:33:21.340 Do we have it?

00:33:22.140 We'll find out.

00:33:22.860 It was basically like.

00:33:23.900 Oh, we did.

00:33:24.340 Oh, yeah, we did play.

00:33:24.960 OK, you did.

00:33:25.560 Yeah, it was basically like be safe and listen to announcements.

00:33:28.940 Do what you.

00:33:29.900 It's like it's very.

00:33:30.560 You are so right with your Meghan Markle comparison, like the verbosity, like all the

00:33:36.620 words deployed to say nothing, nothing, nothing left.

00:33:40.580 Amazing.

00:33:41.060 So you saw she went out, Meghan Markle, to the wildfires.

00:33:45.320 I did.

00:33:46.560 Did you approve or disapprove?

00:33:48.620 I thought, wow, I definitely now think my theory that Netflix was the one to pull the

00:33:53.420 plug on her show and it wasn't her idea or her unilateral decision, because had it been,

00:34:00.480 she would have been like, now's the time I go to ground. 0.92

00:34:03.060 Nobody needs to see me in this devastation.

00:34:05.780 Nobody's looking.

00:34:06.500 Do you think she went out there knowing that it had been pulled and just sort of reminding

00:34:09.560 the world?

00:34:10.000 Here I am.

00:34:10.760 Yeah.

00:34:11.420 Benevolent caregiver.

00:34:12.640 Yeah.

00:34:12.860 I've got my most concerned face on while reportedly that woman she was hugging was a member of

00:34:17.920 her own team.

00:34:18.880 Oh, my gosh.

00:34:19.520 Really?

00:34:19.860 Yeah.

00:34:21.520 Yeah.

00:34:22.280 She saw a camera.

00:34:23.520 She doubled back and it was time for a hug with a concerned face.

00:34:26.360 You know, the baseball cap lid just high enough so we can see everything.

00:34:29.440 Just high enough.

00:34:30.260 Just high enough.

00:34:31.680 I saw footage of her also at like donating like bags of clothes, like cut a check. 0.99

00:34:37.780 I know. 0.99

00:34:38.260 And shut your mouth. 0.98

00:34:39.380 There's no reason for her to go there personally. 0.99

00:34:42.200 She understands 100%.

00:34:43.640 She'll be the center of all the cameras. 1.00

00:34:46.180 The story will be about her, which is exactly what she wanted.

00:34:49.960 And now she and Harry are angry at Justine Bateman, according to page six, that she called

00:34:55.800 them disaster tourists.

00:34:57.100 Their feelings are hurt because they really do just want to help Maureen.

00:34:59.800 It's not about them.

00:35:00.620 Again, like failing to ever learn a lesson, read a room like, OK, you got called disaster

00:35:06.760 tourists.

00:35:07.660 Take it.

00:35:08.180 Take the hit.

00:35:08.900 First of all, it's true.

00:35:09.880 Good for Justine Bateman.

00:35:11.260 Why'd you go to Uvalde if you're not?

00:35:13.000 Please. 0.88

00:35:13.540 That was the most disgusting thing.

00:35:15.000 The most like if there's there's certain people when they do something, I think to myself,

00:35:20.320 I will never put another penny in their pocket.

00:35:22.640 Right.

00:35:23.500 Alicia Keys, her pro Hamas post.

00:35:26.300 Totally what she denied.

00:35:27.260 I said, never again, not a penny in her pocket. 1.00

00:35:29.680 But these people are disgusting. 0.97

00:35:32.520 And so they they feel that we need to know that they are offended. 0.98

00:35:36.940 By this again, while L.A. is burning and people are going to be left with nothing and these

00:35:44.180 people are going to be screwed like they have no insurance, the federal government.

00:35:48.520 Like if you try to get help from them, good luck.

00:35:51.000 It's designed to break you.

00:35:52.720 Oh, well, you were pointing out a column the other day. 1.00

00:35:54.620 It's not just these two losers. 0.67

00:35:57.160 A bunch of celebrities are out there like, oh, you know, help my family. 0.95

00:36:02.840 These multimillionaire stars like could you participate in my GoFundMe for my relic?

00:36:09.900 It's like, who was it?

00:36:11.280 Mandy Moore.

00:36:11.900 Yeah.

00:36:12.220 Mandy Moore of This Is Us fame.

00:36:14.720 Meanwhile, her her partner, who I love, Jack, Milo, Milo Ventimiglia. 1.00

00:36:21.780 He didn't do that shit. 0.99

00:36:23.000 No, he was on the site. 1.00

00:36:24.140 Somebody found him surveying his home in ashes.

00:36:27.160 He didn't make it all about like, woe is me.

00:36:29.740 You know, he just answered the questions.

00:36:30.900 He was dignified.

00:36:31.660 And he certainly didn't ask people to give him money for himself or his family.

00:36:35.440 But Mandy Moore actually started GoFundMe for her in-laws. 1.00

00:36:38.140 Well, she said in her post, they're all so slippery.

00:36:41.740 She's like, by the way, I didn't start this GoFundMe, so don't blame me.

00:36:45.500 I'm just like being a good person and putting it out there for my brother-in-law who lost

00:36:50.560 like $60,000 worth of musical equipment.

00:36:53.740 Like, cry me a river.

00:36:55.520 You lost your instruments.

00:36:57.060 They should have been insured for one.

00:36:58.780 I don't care.

00:37:00.120 So she goes, we're asking for $60,000.

00:37:03.420 Oh, and if you don't like it, kindly F off.

00:37:06.380 No one's forcing you to do anything, which is not the point.

00:37:11.180 And I cannot tell you how gratifying it was to go through all these sort of comments from

00:37:15.120 people who were like, Mandy Moore, like, I thought you were like a decent person. 1.00

00:37:19.080 Like, fuck you. 1.00

00:37:20.760 Like, she made $23 million reportedly just from This Is Us alone. 1.00

00:37:25.380 She doesn't have to work another day in her life.

00:37:27.880 She could replace that $60,000 worth of musical equipment.

00:37:31.240 Easily.

00:37:31.500 I bet her couch cost her that. 1.00

00:37:33.060 Exactly.

00:37:33.620 Her custom-made couch.

00:37:34.800 Yeah.

00:37:34.960 Even Gwyneth Paltrow isn't doing this stuff.

00:37:37.300 You know what I mean?

00:37:38.140 That's saying something.

00:37:39.160 That says a lot.

00:37:40.100 No, and you also don't see Gwyneth Paltrow flying in and inserting herself into the story

00:37:45.120 under the auspices of, they really need me to ladle out the soup.

00:37:49.060 They really need me to hand out sweatshirts.

00:37:52.180 Like, any celebrity or somebody who's as well-known as Meghan and Harry are, who does that, is doing

00:37:57.700 it for a reason.

00:37:58.820 They know exactly what's going to happen.

00:38:01.060 It's totally different from, like, a Gary Sinise who will hold a concert and have people

00:38:06.120 come and pay an admission charge with a deal that I'm going to take all these proceeds

00:38:09.960 and give them, like, to our vets, right?

00:38:11.720 That's where, like, you're using your celebrity for good.

00:38:13.700 It's on the table that it's your celebrity that you're, you know, it's, you're going to do this thing.

00:38:17.920 Transactional.

00:38:18.180 Yeah.

00:38:18.520 Yeah.

00:38:18.660 They're just, they're trying to look like random good Samaritans.

00:38:22.240 And I was talking about this.

00:38:23.260 I went on Billy Bush's show.

00:38:24.400 He just launched it this week.

00:38:25.520 And, um, I was saying to me, it's like when you go on to donate to somebody's GoFundMe,

00:38:30.820 um, I know I always click the anonymous thing because I know I'm me and I know like, I don't

00:38:35.840 want people writing stories about like, oh, she, she gave this or what it that's the, that

00:38:41.320 it's not just besides the point.

00:38:44.380 It undermines the point of doing it like true charity is something you do just for the

00:38:48.720 other person, just to help them.

00:38:50.160 It shouldn't reflect back on you at all.

00:38:52.540 You're yes, you should be fading down into nothing.

00:38:55.160 The point is not to get a thank you.

00:38:57.020 Yes.

00:38:57.340 If you do it because you also feel good, that's great.

00:39:00.280 Yes.

00:39:00.660 But you don't do it to promote yourself, which is totally what they were doing.

00:39:05.780 Totally what they were doing.

00:39:06.720 I mean, one of the, I mean, I loved Prince, but one of my favorite things about him, which

00:39:10.920 I learned after he died was the extent of his charitable donations and how involved he was

00:39:16.600 with like programs for underprivileged youth.

00:39:18.660 Like you would never, you never knew it.

00:39:20.540 It was the same with George Michael.

00:39:21.800 You never knew it.

00:39:23.020 And it's, it goes to one of my favorite sayings, which is if you do something good for someone

00:39:28.040 else and more than those two people know about it, you did it for the wrong reason.

00:39:33.020 This is one of the reasons why, even though Vivek gets under my skin sometimes with his weird

00:39:37.140 little posts about how we need more Urkels, um, that wasn't on my skin.

00:39:40.660 I just teased him because, but I will tell you, I do know a story personally, a person

00:39:44.840 I had on this show who got canceled over complete BS.

00:39:48.920 This is before Vivek was on the scene as a politician or anything.

00:39:52.320 He was just private businessman and he heard the story and contacted me and said, I want

00:39:57.500 to pay all of our legal bills.

00:39:58.780 Amazing.

00:39:59.320 I know.

00:39:59.800 And he's, I've never heard him tell this story.

00:40:01.960 Like he's, he wasn't looking for credit for it.

00:40:04.460 Right.

00:40:04.760 I mean, that just speaks to a true, like a good character of a person.

00:40:09.060 These two, it's a totally different story.

00:40:11.100 So shame on them.

00:40:12.360 Shame on, uh, Mandy Moore. 1.00

00:40:14.780 Uh, it's a disgrace.

00:40:15.880 They just go away.

00:40:18.040 Meanwhile, while we're on LA, they're in a full meltdown there in terms of their politics.

00:40:23.980 The fire chief almost got fired.

00:40:27.500 Then she had some long heated closed door meeting with the mayor where they had it out.

00:40:31.460 By the next day, Saturday, they came out as a sort of united front.

00:40:34.620 Like we're going to resolve our differences in private, but she continues to rip on the 1.00

00:40:40.800 fact that the fire department didn't get the resources it needed, the fire chief.

00:40:44.240 And now what you're seeing is reports that there's been a rebellion against her and that

00:40:49.320 there's a push growing for her, the LA fire chief to step down because she hasn't been

00:40:55.680 taking care of the firefighters in her ranks or listening to their many complaints.

00:41:00.420 So she raised at least one publicly saying, don't defund us the $17 million.

00:41:04.520 Like we need more resources, but you're hearing more and more firefighters from within and

00:41:08.760 including the head of the firefighters union come out and say, we've been sounding the alarm.

00:41:12.700 No one's been listening to us.

00:41:13.720 And actually some are saying this fire chief needs to go among other things.

00:41:18.240 She's been too focused on DEI and getting more women. 0.98

00:41:23.380 The New York times has a report on this out right now.

00:41:25.280 She's super focused on getting more women in the fire force, uh, because some women in 1.00

00:41:30.960 previous years complained that they'd been harassed, et cetera, by some of the guys.

00:41:34.680 So the answer I guess is to just make women the dominant population in LAFD. 0.92

00:41:39.400 First of all, I've been listening to your coverage about this and the line you had the other day

00:41:46.560 about, well, I might die, but at least I'm in the presence of what? 0.97

00:41:50.620 An obese lesbian. 1.00

00:41:52.460 Hey, um, I was actually at the bank yesterday and next to me at the teller was a firefighter 0.95

00:41:58.920 and they were talking about this.

00:42:00.840 He and the teller were talking about this.

00:42:02.460 And he said, this is the thing about why we are wary of female firefighters. 1.00

00:42:08.160 He said, we're afraid that they might lose their courage in an emergency, like to run

00:42:13.540 into a burning building with all of that stuff on you, like trying to get people out. 0.97

00:42:18.360 I think men who do it are crazy. 0.98

00:42:22.000 Yes. 0.99

00:42:22.620 Wonderfully crazy.

00:42:23.640 I'm too afraid.

00:42:24.340 Yes.

00:42:25.020 So my, but also, you know, this sort of ties into the Biden because I'm looking at what's

00:42:31.180 going on in California and seeing Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass, who is wearing this insufferable

00:42:37.220 smile on her face at all times and this fire chief.

00:42:41.980 And it's like, there is no such thing as accountability, as shame anymore.

00:42:47.640 It seems the worst of a job you do, the better you give yourself on a performance ranking.

00:42:53.860 You're like, you think you're doing a five when the public thinks you're doing a zero.

00:42:57.940 When all evidence to the contrary exists, such as your entire town burning to the ground.

00:43:06.360 And you don't seem to have much, much urgency.

00:43:08.500 I mean, as it goes on and burns, like the problems with staffing and getting the adequate

00:43:13.160 trucks and water there remain.

00:43:15.760 Schellenberger, who's been doing a great, great job on this, tweeted this out today or

00:43:20.120 last night.

00:43:20.580 He's tweeting out an article that reads, DEI and corruption behind LA fire catastrophe says

00:43:26.640 new whistleblower.

00:43:28.760 And this is his headline.

00:43:30.540 DEI did not hurt the LA fire department's response to the catastrophic fire, say the

00:43:34.720 media, but anything that Trump's meritocratic standards would.

00:43:38.860 And now whistleblowers within the LA FD say the department lowered standards on ladders,

00:43:45.980 hoses, and pushups to meet DEI quotas for women. 1.00

00:43:51.220 This is exactly what Hegseth was trying to say at his confirmation hearings earlier this

00:43:54.960 week. 0.98

00:43:55.520 No, they're not Senator Gillibrand dumb enough to put it down on a piece of paper saying 0.98

00:44:00.920 the women have to meet this lower standard and the men have to meet this higher one. 0.97

00:44:04.980 It is a matter of practice in too many areas of the military and obviously the LA FD to do

00:44:11.080 it with a wink and a nod.

00:44:12.940 And it's unacceptable when you have lives on the line.

00:44:17.200 So, I mean, this is tangential, but, um, I was looking at an episode the other night 0.67

00:44:25.440 of only murders in the building and cast as an NYPD detective is an obese black woman. 1.00

00:44:32.920 And I'm thinking to myself, would she really pass the physical fitness requirement to be 0.93

00:44:38.220 a police officer?

00:44:39.300 I mean, have you seen the NYPD, the videos of the dancers?

00:44:41.460 Yes.

00:44:41.920 Yeah.

00:44:42.180 Yes.

00:44:42.560 But like, that's, that's the, that's the messaging we're getting in the mirroring we're getting.

00:44:45.920 Like, this is supposed to be like a thing where you don't even realize for a second,

00:44:49.660 like, no, that doesn't fit.

00:44:51.100 Yeah.

00:44:51.460 That doesn't apply.

00:44:52.660 Right.

00:44:52.940 The real, it should not apply.

00:44:54.340 Right.

00:44:54.800 Right.

00:44:55.600 It's fine.

00:44:56.180 You can choose whichever color you want to make her, but why does she have to be obese? 1.00

00:44:59.920 Exactly.

00:45:00.280 Like we're, we're trying with the, there's technically a standard.

00:45:03.200 They're all supposed to be meeting on physical fitness.

00:45:04.900 Um, why are we leaning into somehow that's a problem?

00:45:08.440 And this is one of the things that we were supposed to have learned from Afghanistan and

00:45:13.520 Iraq when, you know, an all volunteer army, very few American men and women really looking

00:45:20.900 to join that fight after a while.

00:45:22.980 And the army and the military had no choice but to lower standards.

00:45:26.640 So they were letting in people who either physically couldn't do it intellectually, didn't

00:45:31.200 have the capabilities, you know?

00:45:33.080 I mean, this is a very long tail we're dealing with.

00:45:36.060 But meanwhile, Pete was making such a good point the other day at the confirmation hearing

00:45:39.160 that we don't hear enough of.

00:45:40.800 And, and Anna Kasparian was on the show the other day trying to make the opposite point. 0.59

00:45:44.440 I disagreed with her, but we didn't get a chance to get into it.

00:45:46.560 And she was great by the way, but she was saying, look, we have, you know, a recruiting

00:45:50.100 shortage and, you know, if we have talented women who want to sign up for the military and 1.00

00:45:54.760 for combat, like the more the merrier because we need more bodies now. 0.59

00:45:58.380 And by the way, Pete's never said women shouldn't be in the military.

00:46:00.800 It's about combat.

00:46:02.840 So I know I take her point, but what Pete was saying at the hearing was that we're seeing

00:46:08.880 already a surge in signups by young men who are ready to rejoin because we've had this

00:46:14.940 lag.

00:46:15.340 And I believe, as I think Pete does, as I think Trump does, that one of the main reasons

00:46:19.840 we're seeing the lag, two of the main reasons are DEI.

00:46:23.380 They do not want to volunteer to put their lives on the line only to be lectured to that

00:46:29.840 they're bad because they're white men. 0.65

00:46:32.340 That's one. 0.99

00:46:33.540 One of those two things, because black men get lectured too because of their manliness. 0.96

00:46:38.100 So that's one.

00:46:39.020 And then two is we've been totally reckless with our blood and treasure.

00:46:43.140 We've been starting these wars.

00:46:44.800 They've been never ending.

00:46:45.940 We keep sending more over there.

00:46:47.620 We try to impose democracies on countries and regions that will not have it. 0.99

00:46:51.600 We double down on dumb. 0.99

00:46:53.180 And then when they die, like in the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal, we say we handled it 1.00

00:46:58.260 perfectly.

00:46:58.780 That's what Biden says.

00:46:59.500 No mistakes.

00:47:00.120 It was stellar.

00:47:00.960 It nailed it.

00:47:02.240 Why would you go sign up to fight for a man like that?

00:47:05.300 Commander in chief like that.

00:47:06.100 And Pete's point is that if we do things right, if we treat the military right, if we

00:47:11.080 have the right messaging, if we choose the right battles and we give them the tools to

00:47:14.360 win, like instead of tying their hands behind the back on bullshit rules of engagement, we're

00:47:18.980 going to see that surge in signups again. 0.96

00:47:21.400 If we teach pro-America lessons in school, as opposed to you should hate your country,

00:47:25.800 we're going to see enlisted numbers go up.

00:47:28.800 The answer is that to lower the standard so we can take the obese ones and the ones who don't 1.00

00:47:32.500 pass the IQ test and women who are out of shape or not strong. 1.00

00:47:35.740 The answer is to find a way to get to those able-bodied, young, male fighting age guys

00:47:41.360 who otherwise would have been running to the recruitment offices.

00:47:44.920 100%.

00:47:45.320 And you also have to think, you know, if you are a young man thinking of joining up, like

00:47:50.980 they're thinking, who's going to be in my foxhole?

00:47:54.020 Is it going to be a DEI hire?

00:47:55.800 He's going to try to drag me out behind like an assault or not.

00:48:00.060 You know, I mean, it's, it's such a practical, again, common sense thing.

00:48:05.580 And finally, now we're having these grownup discussions about it because over the past

00:48:10.100 four, eight, 12 years to do so is to be a racist, is to be a bigot, is to be one of

00:48:16.840 my favorite epithets, an ableist.

00:48:19.460 Oh God.

00:48:20.480 An ableist.

00:48:21.340 I'm an ableist when it comes to our armed forces.

00:48:23.420 I am.

00:48:23.920 Likewise, you know, so I just, uh, I'm, I'm gratified by everything that's sort of happening.

00:48:30.860 And I think what's going to happen in LA is a complete flushing out of this toxicity.

00:48:35.900 Like Gavin Newsom is done.

00:48:38.100 Yeah.

00:48:38.940 Karen Bass.

00:48:40.060 I mean, holy, like when she was being interrogated, like after deplaning, but before they like

00:48:49.360 let her off sky news reporter and she's looking, she's looking at the ground and her eyebrows 0.92

00:48:55.040 are knitting as he's asking questions. 1.00

00:48:57.560 And I was literally thinking to myself, like, is she like functionally a moron? 1.00

00:49:02.560 I think, I think so. 1.00

00:49:03.940 The answer is yes.

00:49:05.640 You do.

00:49:06.200 Yeah.

00:49:06.620 But she wasn't the one who put this fire chief in.

00:49:08.560 It was Garcetti, right?

00:49:09.760 And he was the previous mayor.

00:49:10.720 Wait, I get my G's confused in Los Angeles.

00:49:13.220 It was the previous mayor who came right before her.

00:49:15.040 The guy who just got voted out.

00:49:16.420 And, um, he, he put her in and she kept her though.

00:49:20.180 She kept her right.

00:49:20.880 Because none of these Democrats is going to be the one to say the DEI hire is not on point.

00:49:25.580 Right.

00:49:25.940 And Karen Bass's, uh, situation Garcetti.

00:49:29.080 Yeah.

00:49:29.600 Um, she's probably a DEI hire too.

00:49:32.100 A lot of the women, a lot of the voters are already on record saying I could not vote for 0.91

00:49:35.540 the white guy, Rick Caruso when he's running against a black woman in no world.

00:49:40.460 Could I do it?

00:49:40.980 Well, this is one of the reasons why I think it's an app.

00:49:43.680 We have a minute, but discussion, like, do we, how many federal dollars do we send to

00:49:47.840 California if they're not going to change their leadership, if they're going to double 0.71

00:49:50.800 down on dumb, like how, how many times do you go in and rescue people who are suffering 0.99

00:49:56.660 natural consequences? 0.99

00:49:58.100 I, I just, I don't know how we as Americans could turn our backs on the hardworking people

00:50:04.560 who are really going to suffer.

00:50:06.340 I don't know how the federal government just leaves them to it.

00:50:08.700 To me, it's as bad as FEMA people being told to ignore homes with Trump stakes in them.

00:50:14.400 Unfortunately, you're right, but it is somewhat galling because it's like,

00:50:17.420 I agree.

00:50:18.420 You stick with these leaders.

00:50:20.040 They are suffering for it.

00:50:21.320 And I do think they're going to learn their lesson.

00:50:23.100 I hope you're right.

00:50:23.940 I hope you're right.

00:50:24.660 My woke friend who told me the other day, she was hearing all sorts of, you know,

00:50:27.960 we're going to vote Republican.

00:50:29.380 We see what we did.

00:50:30.580 It was wrong.

00:50:31.120 She said they're weakening already.

00:50:33.160 They're already being like, well, you can't stop fire.

00:50:35.680 Well, you can, you can, you can.

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00:52:24.880 This is just breaking, Maureen.

00:52:26.560 CNN, bad news, just found liable in a defamation case for $5 million,

00:52:35.040 and now the jury recommending that they move on to the punitive damages phase,

00:52:40.520 which is no bueno for CNN.

00:52:43.660 Here's what happened.

00:52:45.420 A U.S. Navy veteran by the name of Zachary Young

00:52:52.220 was put on CNN's screen in a report done by a reporter named Alex Marquette.

00:52:59.440 It aired on Jake Tapper's show.

00:53:02.180 And in this report, Alex Marquette suggested,

00:53:05.920 CNN suggested that this guy, Young,

00:53:08.460 was an illegal profiteer working in Afghanistan with those who needed to be evacuated,

00:53:18.000 charging them thousands of dollars to flee the country following the U.S. military withdrawal.

00:53:22.920 And this guy, Young, was in touch with the CNN reporter,

00:53:27.980 and before they ran the piece saying,

00:53:31.220 no, not true, and what are you going to say?

00:53:35.660 Because they reached out to him for comment, as you must.

00:53:37.680 And he said, send me a list of questions, you know, and I'll answer them.

00:53:42.160 And they introduced texts in the lawsuit that he brought for defamation against CNN,

00:53:47.380 including one in which Alex Marquette is texting another internal CNN-er how annoyed he is

00:53:55.040 that this guy, Young, has been in touch, saying, 0.99

00:53:58.040 fucking Young just texted. 0.99

00:53:59.920 Okay? 0.99

00:54:00.540 And then there's a text in which, 0.98

00:54:03.380 and he starts it with FFS, meaning for fuck's sake, 0.99

00:54:07.800 fucking Young just texted. 0.99

00:54:08.900 It's like he's annoyed that his source, 0.99

00:54:11.440 you know, the subject of his story wants to talk about it.

00:54:13.520 Like, normally you're happy.

00:54:15.540 Normally that's great news.

00:54:16.500 If they yell at you, that's fine.

00:54:17.820 Either way, interaction is fine.

00:54:20.400 And then there was a text shown of Marquette's text

00:54:25.400 where he told CNN's assistant managing editor, Matthew Phillips, 0.99

00:54:29.560 we gonna nail this Zachary Young motherfucker, 0.98

00:54:33.620 which is not a great text, 0.99

00:54:35.980 not a great text when defending a defamation case.

00:54:39.940 So now the jury has just come back,

00:54:42.040 finding CNN liable and saying they need to pay Mr. Young

00:54:45.300 $5 million in compensatory damages,

00:54:47.720 adding that he should also be awarded punitives.

00:54:50.180 The trial will be heading into a second phase

00:54:51.920 to determine the amount of punitive damages.

00:54:55.200 This is, I mean, look, I hate to see,

00:54:58.100 you know, defamation cases succeed

00:55:00.560 against our fellow media members

00:55:01.700 because you never want to be in that position, right?

00:55:04.240 I mean, I'd be lying if I said you didn't think,

00:55:06.000 well, wow, geez, like nobody's perfect.

00:55:07.840 There but for the grace.

00:55:08.740 But this sounds rather egregious.

00:55:10.960 These texts make it pretty clear.

00:55:12.280 This reporter was not necessarily 100% interested

00:55:15.120 in reporting what was real and true.

00:55:17.260 No, and you know what else is really,

00:55:19.580 I shouldn't be shocked because it's CNN.

00:55:22.620 But I was glued to that coverage

00:55:25.540 and I read everything I could about it.

00:55:28.020 And instead of CNN really going down the rabbit hole

00:55:31.480 of how Biden was able to do this,

00:55:35.860 despite every top general telling him not to do it,

00:55:41.620 despite every top advisor telling him

00:55:43.700 this is not the way, he went ahead and did it

00:55:46.400 and people died and babies were thrown

00:55:49.380 over barbed wire fences to U.S. servicemen.

00:55:53.320 The desperation, we'd left American conspirators behind.

00:55:59.100 We told them, we will protect you.

00:56:01.480 And when push came to shove, we were like, we're out.

00:56:03.560 Sorry, every man for himself.

00:56:05.420 And it was these ex-military guys,

00:56:08.080 I don't know if Zachary is ex or still,

00:56:10.920 but who took it upon themselves,

00:56:13.080 many remotely from America,

00:56:15.360 to organize people, to organize former Navy SEALs

00:56:18.520 to get these poor people out. 0.98

00:56:20.780 But CNN instead thought the better story was,

00:56:24.580 oh, one of these guys is trying to line his pockets.

00:56:27.420 Like, that kind of tells you where their weather vane is.

00:56:31.040 When you have texts like that, you just settle.

00:56:32.960 You just settle.

00:56:33.920 You know, like, there will be situations

00:56:37.460 in which the press behaves badly,

00:56:39.060 in which you have bad texts,

00:56:40.460 in which this reporter in the field makes bad decisions.

00:56:43.500 And as a media organization, you settle those cases.

00:56:46.720 That is why ABC settled with Donald Trump,

00:56:50.780 paid him $15 million in his defamation lawsuit,

00:56:53.400 because George Stephanopoulos just kept saying

00:56:56.240 he raped somebody, that he was found liable for rape 0.92

00:56:58.380 when it wasn't true. 0.93

00:56:59.820 It's like, sometimes you have to know as the corporation,

00:57:02.100 the big daddy, when to fall on your sword

00:57:05.020 and just say, we effed up

00:57:07.200 and we're going to minimize the damage to our brand.

00:57:09.960 I mean, CNN's in a spiral right now.

00:57:12.340 It's got basement ratings.

00:57:14.860 And, like, their big news this week has been

00:57:19.280 Jim Acosta is moving from 10 a.m. to midnight.

00:57:27.700 Right.

00:57:28.660 And I guess they sold it to him by saying,

00:57:30.600 it's primetime on the West Coast.

00:57:32.720 Right.

00:57:32.980 And Wolf Blitzer getting kicked out of primetime,

00:57:35.380 and he's getting a morning show.

00:57:36.660 So, like, what 67-year-old is, like, 76, I think.

00:57:39.780 76.

00:57:40.260 I'd love to get up at 4 a.m., 5 a.m.

00:57:42.440 Sure.

00:57:42.860 To prep for this.

00:57:43.260 Yeah, great.

00:57:43.820 I know.

00:57:44.420 And Jim Acosta on his, like, most recent show has been,

00:57:49.440 I think he was thanking President Biden

00:57:51.240 for defending the press.

00:57:52.920 Stop it.

00:57:53.500 Meaning him.

00:57:54.220 Stop.

00:57:54.620 It's worse than you think.

00:57:55.760 Watch this.

00:57:57.400 He warned the free press is crumbling in this country.

00:58:00.700 Journalists exist to seek the truth,

00:58:02.620 to tell people's stories,

00:58:03.860 to lift up voices that may not be heard otherwise.

00:58:07.380 To shine a light on injustice,

00:58:08.940 and to hold the powerful accountable.

00:58:11.020 I want to take a moment to show you something.

00:58:12.280 A woman sent me this sign eight years ago.

00:58:15.260 She carried it here at a march in Washington.

00:58:17.540 She wrote on the back of the sign,

00:58:19.560 to me and the press here in D.C.,

00:58:21.500 you have our support.

00:58:23.320 To Nora, wherever you are,

00:58:25.620 right back at you.

00:58:27.380 Oh, my God.

00:58:28.460 The sign reads,

00:58:29.680 I march for Jim Acosta in a free press,

00:58:32.740 and he's holding it up.

00:58:34.260 It's, oh, my God.

00:58:36.780 Ted Knight is on the Mary Tyler Moore show.

00:58:39.320 Totally.

00:58:39.820 That's that. 0.74

00:58:40.500 Like, more insane than this woman giving him this little placard, 0.99

00:58:44.660 whatever. 0.60

00:58:44.940 Um, and, and is, is him holding onto it?

00:58:48.660 Right.

00:58:48.960 Like, imagine how many times he's moved offices

00:58:51.120 and told some assistant,

00:58:52.420 like, you gotta get that.

00:58:53.700 You gotta, don't leave that behind.

00:58:55.220 I'll fire you. 0.90

00:58:56.260 Get my sign. 0.90

00:58:57.220 Like, he's gonna take it home

00:58:58.380 and have it framed when he retires.

00:59:00.600 Like, it's demented.

00:59:02.020 I hope the woman who made the sign

00:59:03.220 is on the West Coast

00:59:04.280 and she can enjoy the,

00:59:05.560 the newly minted prime time host.

00:59:08.420 I can't say,

00:59:08.960 is that your DVR?

00:59:10.280 California only.

00:59:11.020 Oh, my God.

00:59:12.060 Um, I mean,

00:59:12.960 they're rearranging the deck chairs.

00:59:14.540 The, the ship is still sinking.

00:59:16.120 Mm-hmm.

00:59:16.340 Good luck with that.

00:59:17.180 Oh, my God.

00:59:17.720 Speaking of,

00:59:18.280 just can I say.

00:59:19.060 Yeah.

00:59:19.380 You know,

00:59:19.880 you, you often say this thing

00:59:21.140 that Roger Ailes told you,

00:59:22.320 which is watch with the sound off.

00:59:24.480 Yeah.

00:59:24.680 And see if you can tell

00:59:25.320 what the story is,

00:59:26.480 the LA wildfires breaking out

00:59:28.280 on Wednesday morning.

00:59:29.300 Is it Abby Phillip

00:59:30.220 who's the morning person?

00:59:31.280 Because she was doing

00:59:32.560 a remote interview

00:59:33.980 with somebody

00:59:34.580 in the field in California

00:59:35.980 and she had her phone

00:59:37.800 in the shot

00:59:38.640 and she was like this.

00:59:41.320 What?

00:59:42.000 It was like she was online shopping

00:59:43.640 while she was getting

00:59:44.760 this, like,

00:59:45.360 incoming dispatch,

00:59:46.300 like,

00:59:47.020 we're burning to the ground over here

00:59:48.540 and there's no water

00:59:49.240 and no one's coming.

00:59:50.100 She's like.

00:59:50.500 Oh, my.

00:59:51.800 No, I don't,

00:59:52.660 I don't know when she's on.

00:59:54.100 I just see her clips.

00:59:54.860 I think she's on in the evening,

00:59:56.480 but I was talking to her about her.

00:59:58.220 When is she, Steve?

00:59:59.600 She's at 9 p.m.

01:00:00.420 Oh, my God.

01:00:00.940 God help you, CNN.

01:00:01.980 I was just talking about her yesterday

01:00:03.220 because she's got this weird thing 0.70

01:00:04.480 with her affects

01:00:05.660 where she talks like this

01:00:07.520 and she's like,

01:00:09.260 I don't think they were disparaging

01:00:11.940 Pete Hegseth's military service

01:00:14.080 and you shouldn't disparage

01:00:16.320 the general service

01:00:17.740 who came before.

01:00:18.780 It's,

01:00:19.060 I don't know what it is,

01:00:20.380 but I asked the audience,

01:00:21.940 like,

01:00:22.980 that's my imitation of her.

01:00:24.040 Who am I imitating?

01:00:25.600 Like,

01:00:25.760 who is it that I'm,

01:00:28.440 because she's reminding me of somebody

01:00:29.860 and I feel like we came up with

01:00:31.540 some of the audience emailed in.

01:00:33.200 It's Megan at MeganKelley.com.

01:00:34.980 Here's what we came up with.

01:00:36.540 Nobody's going to go out with me.

01:00:40.140 Have you asked anybody yet?

01:00:42.160 No,

01:00:42.620 but who would?

01:00:43.580 I don't even have any good skills.

01:00:45.920 What do you mean?

01:00:46.720 You know,

01:00:47.960 like,

01:00:49.540 nunchuck skills,

01:00:51.100 bow hunting skills,

01:00:52.960 computer hacking skills.

01:00:56.080 Girls only want boyfriends 1.00

01:00:57.380 who have great skills.

01:00:59.480 That's Napoleon Dynamite.

01:01:00.940 Here's Abby Phillip.

01:01:01.780 You tell me whether I'm onto something.

01:01:03.720 I have concerns about

01:01:05.000 Elon Musk's

01:01:06.220 business dealings

01:01:08.200 in other countries,

01:01:09.240 including American adversaries,

01:01:11.180 that we are producing

01:01:12.040 more oil now

01:01:13.180 than even when Trump was in office.

01:01:14.920 That's a fact.

01:01:16.640 I'm old enough to remember

01:01:17.640 hydroxychloroquine

01:01:18.940 and the horse tranquilizer

01:01:20.220 and all that stuff.

01:01:21.340 I mean,

01:01:21.620 those things weren't true either.

01:01:23.400 Okay?

01:01:25.040 It's just very,

01:01:26.220 very flat

01:01:27.700 while she makes her point

01:01:29.580 with the occasional

01:01:30.500 intonation upward.

01:01:32.760 Do you know who

01:01:33.240 that reminds me of too?

01:01:34.380 Who?

01:01:34.640 Selena Gomez,

01:01:36.080 who's been on this huge press tour.

01:01:37.820 She's in that movie,

01:01:38.620 that transgender musical.

01:01:40.020 Oh, yeah. 0.59

01:01:41.020 Which I refuse to see.

01:01:42.240 I mean,

01:01:42.560 who's going to watch that?

01:01:43.420 No,

01:01:43.540 I'm just going to watch that.

01:01:44.260 But she has

01:01:45.840 the flattest affect.

01:01:47.320 Like,

01:01:47.480 she's been doing this press tour

01:01:48.460 like it's her best year ever.

01:01:50.280 And she sounds like

01:01:51.160 she's on, like,

01:01:52.280 medication for, like,

01:01:53.500 treatment-resistant depression.

01:01:55.320 Oh,

01:01:55.620 another submission.

01:01:56.500 Please go find a clip of that

01:01:58.080 so we can see

01:01:58.640 who Abby Phillip

01:01:59.440 is more like.

01:02:02.080 People are more familiar

01:02:03.500 with her name right now

01:02:04.420 than they ever have been,

01:02:05.220 thanks to our mentioning

01:02:05.860 on this show.

01:02:06.520 So you're welcome.

01:02:07.700 Okay,

01:02:08.260 there's a couple other things

01:02:09.340 I'm dying to talk to you about.

01:02:10.260 Two massive lawsuits today.

01:02:12.300 One we're going to get to,

01:02:13.240 which you guys know about,

01:02:14.020 and that's the,

01:02:14.460 um,

01:02:15.220 the,

01:02:15.500 the Blake Lively,

01:02:17.380 uh,

01:02:17.720 Justin Baldoni thing.

01:02:18.860 Brian Friedman,

01:02:19.540 the lawyer for Justin,

01:02:20.320 has just dropped a whopper

01:02:21.840 of a $400 million lawsuit

01:02:24.460 against Blake Lively,

01:02:26.200 Ryan Reynolds,

01:02:27.500 and their PR agent,

01:02:29.780 Leslie,

01:02:30.780 I don't remember her last name,

01:02:32.880 Sloan.

01:02:33.780 Um,

01:02:34.180 he said he was going to do it.

01:02:35.380 He said it was going to be a whopper,

01:02:36.720 and boy,

01:02:37.100 oh boy,

01:02:37.560 is it.

01:02:37.920 So we'll get to that in one second.

01:02:39.060 But I have to start with one

01:02:40.100 against a guy,

01:02:41.740 a criminal indictment

01:02:42.940 that probably no one

01:02:44.780 listening to me,

01:02:45.480 other than I know

01:02:46.000 we have some federal

01:02:46.800 circuit court judges,

01:02:47.680 we have some court of appeals judges

01:02:48.780 who I know listen to the show.

01:02:50.240 They're going to know this guy.

01:02:51.560 But it's just such an interesting story

01:02:53.540 that I must bring it to you.

01:02:57.300 There's this guy named Tom Goldstein,

01:02:59.060 and he has been behind the website

01:03:02.520 all of us court watchers use

01:03:04.680 for the past two decades

01:03:06.280 called SCOTUSblog,

01:03:08.040 Supreme Court of the United States,

01:03:09.200 SCOTUSblog.com.

01:03:10.520 It kind of started to wind down a bit

01:03:12.880 last year.

01:03:13.960 We didn't know why,

01:03:15.520 but he's the guy behind it.

01:03:17.180 And I believe that he is,

01:03:20.060 oh God,

01:03:20.900 the second,

01:03:21.920 this is from National Review's

01:03:23.320 Dan McLaughlin,

01:03:24.520 who writes,

01:03:25.960 his bio recites that

01:03:26.980 only three lawyers

01:03:28.300 in the court's modern history

01:03:29.800 have argued more cases

01:03:31.780 in private practice.

01:03:33.020 He has been counsel on

01:03:34.640 more successful petitions

01:03:36.540 for certiorari,

01:03:37.480 meaning please take our case,

01:03:38.760 U.S. Supreme Court,

01:03:39.720 over the past decade

01:03:40.780 than any other lawyer

01:03:42.260 in private practice.

01:03:44.040 Over the past 15 years,

01:03:45.060 the firm's petitions for cert

01:03:46.400 have been granted

01:03:47.500 at a higher rate

01:03:48.340 than any private law firm

01:03:49.820 or legal clinic.

01:03:51.320 He has taught Supreme Court litigation

01:03:52.940 at Harvard Law School

01:03:53.740 since 2004

01:03:54.580 after teaching the same

01:03:55.700 at Stanford.

01:03:56.640 He's one of the co-founders

01:03:57.620 of SCOTUSblog,

01:03:58.580 the must-read site

01:03:59.320 covering the high court.

01:04:00.420 He holds a number of positions

01:04:02.440 of distinction

01:04:03.440 in the bar.

01:04:04.980 As a young lawyer,

01:04:06.000 he was at the side

01:04:06.740 of David Boyes

01:04:07.640 and Lawrence Tribe

01:04:08.500 for the Democratic team

01:04:10.000 arguing Bush v. Gore.

01:04:12.040 Now he's 54 years old

01:04:13.820 and I'll tell you what,

01:04:16.840 I've interviewed him

01:04:18.860 too many times to count

01:04:20.060 when I was on Fox News.

01:04:21.240 I was addicted

01:04:21.860 to SCOTUSblog.

01:04:22.540 I covered the high court

01:04:23.220 for three years for Fox

01:04:24.140 and the day

01:04:25.260 that the Obamacare decision

01:04:26.420 came out,

01:04:27.780 you may not remember this,

01:04:28.840 but almost everybody

01:04:29.880 got it wrong

01:04:30.480 and said because they found

01:04:32.700 that the Congress

01:04:35.060 didn't have the power

01:04:35.700 under the Commerce Clause

01:04:36.500 to pass Obamacare

01:04:37.440 because that was the first part

01:04:38.700 of the decision.

01:04:39.320 They did not have the power.

01:04:40.880 Everybody was like,

01:04:41.400 it's being struck down.

01:04:42.500 Obamacare is being struck down

01:04:43.520 and these know-nothing reporters

01:04:45.000 ran to the cameras

01:04:45.840 to say that

01:04:46.500 without reading the whole opinion.

01:04:48.300 But, you know,

01:04:48.820 of course I did read

01:04:49.580 the whole opinion

01:04:50.040 and I knew that

01:04:51.000 there might be more

01:04:51.760 than part one

01:04:52.340 and there was a part two

01:04:53.180 which said,

01:04:53.680 but we uphold it

01:04:54.260 under the tax clause.

01:04:55.640 Thank you,

01:04:56.080 Chief Justice John Roberts.

01:04:56.960 So I got it right 0.99

01:04:58.480 and I saved the ass 0.99

01:05:00.220 of Fox News. 0.99

01:05:01.220 Oh, we have this.

01:05:02.060 Okay, here's a little bit

01:05:03.080 of this.

01:05:03.480 So listen.

01:05:04.880 Key news here

01:05:05.640 on the Fox News channel.

01:05:07.420 The individual mandate

01:05:09.080 has been ruled

01:05:10.680 unconstitutional.

01:05:13.680 He says the individual mandate

01:05:14.840 cannot be sustained

01:05:16.200 under Congress's power

01:05:17.300 to regulate commerce.

01:05:18.520 That means the mandate

01:05:19.840 is gone.

01:05:20.720 Megan, you're seeing

01:05:21.220 something now.

01:05:21.900 We're getting

01:05:22.220 conflicting information.

01:05:23.500 We're getting

01:05:23.740 conflicting information.

01:05:24.740 If you follow

01:05:26.100 SCOTUSblog.com

01:05:27.500 which covers

01:05:28.320 the high court,

01:05:29.440 they say that

01:05:30.120 despite what

01:05:30.960 Shannon just read

01:05:32.000 that the individual mandate

01:05:33.900 is surviving

01:05:34.900 as a tax.

01:05:36.320 This is not

01:05:37.180 confirmed by us yet.

01:05:38.520 This is according

01:05:38.980 to SCOTUSblog

01:05:39.620 which also has

01:05:40.280 the opinion.

01:05:41.360 They're reporting

01:05:41.980 that the individual mandate

01:05:43.500 survives as a tax.

01:05:46.200 So it may have been

01:05:47.160 struck down

01:05:47.600 under the Commerce Clause

01:05:48.520 power but spared

01:05:50.240 under the taxing power.

01:05:52.480 Everyone's still

01:05:53.080 trying to figure this out.

01:05:54.000 It's very fluid right now.

01:05:54.720 Okay, as a result

01:05:56.740 of that, me reading

01:05:57.640 SCOTUSblog and reading

01:05:58.500 the opinion,

01:05:59.480 we were one of the

01:06:00.480 only ones to get it right.

01:06:02.140 Tom Goldstein

01:06:02.780 came on my show.

01:06:04.420 Was it later that night?

01:06:07.120 Okay, later that night.

01:06:08.560 I was in primetime.

01:06:09.480 Watch.

01:06:10.360 I owe you my thanks

01:06:11.580 because I was on

01:06:12.440 your blog this morning

01:06:13.480 as this ruling came down

01:06:15.280 and we were getting

01:06:15.760 conflicting reports

01:06:16.860 and you, as expected

01:06:18.660 and as always,

01:06:19.760 had it right.

01:06:20.780 The high court

01:06:21.500 upheld the individual

01:06:23.980 mandate but not

01:06:25.140 on the grounds

01:06:25.820 most of us expected.

01:06:27.600 The Affordable Care Act

01:06:28.580 was saved by

01:06:29.900 the conservative

01:06:30.460 chief justice,

01:06:31.360 John Roberts.

01:06:32.000 It is possible

01:06:32.820 to construe the statute

01:06:34.000 as a tax.

01:06:36.140 Okay, so why did I

01:06:37.460 take you down

01:06:37.920 that memory lane?

01:06:39.900 That's the guy

01:06:40.800 who just yesterday

01:06:42.700 got indicted

01:06:44.220 in federal court

01:06:46.180 by the Justice Department

01:06:50.200 for allegedly

01:06:51.820 I want to get

01:06:53.560 the taxes

01:06:53.920 exactly right.

01:06:55.660 I mean,

01:06:55.980 the charge

01:06:56.720 is exactly right

01:06:57.500 for not paying

01:07:00.080 his taxes.

01:07:01.420 Let's see.

01:07:02.840 Hold on.

01:07:03.160 I just want to make sure

01:07:03.740 I have it exactly.

01:07:04.640 Let me just see.

01:07:06.360 He,

01:07:07.040 the allegations

01:07:07.780 are that

01:07:08.540 he committed

01:07:09.520 tax evasion,

01:07:11.400 19 counts

01:07:12.280 of unpaid taxes,

01:07:13.680 willful failure

01:07:14.400 to pay taxes,

01:07:15.660 false and fraudulent

01:07:16.520 tax returns.

01:07:17.740 There are also

01:07:18.220 three counts

01:07:18.780 of false statements

01:07:19.620 on mortgage loans

01:07:20.960 applications

01:07:21.640 that he took out

01:07:23.080 to cover his debts.

01:07:24.740 This is,

01:07:25.380 again,

01:07:25.560 sticking with the report

01:07:26.480 on National Review,

01:07:27.580 which you guys should read

01:07:28.180 by Dan McLaughlin

01:07:28.840 called The Wild Indictment

01:07:29.800 of Tom Goldstein

01:07:30.900 of SCOTUSBlog.

01:07:32.260 And he says,

01:07:33.020 it might seem puzzling

01:07:35.040 that a man in this position

01:07:35.900 would retire from

01:07:36.680 appellate practice

01:07:37.300 in 2023.

01:07:38.160 So last year,

01:07:39.000 he stepped away

01:07:39.800 from SCOTUSBlog,

01:07:40.760 he gave up

01:07:41.260 appellate practice,

01:07:42.380 no one quite understood it.

01:07:43.580 It might seem

01:07:44.640 even odder

01:07:45.300 when juxtaposed

01:07:46.100 against Goldstein's

01:07:47.080 reputation.

01:07:48.220 He was profiled

01:07:49.080 in 2006

01:07:49.720 for the New Republic

01:07:50.900 as the hustler

01:07:51.680 for his aggressive

01:07:52.360 pursuit of clients

01:07:53.120 with cases

01:07:53.560 that were headed

01:07:53.960 for the court

01:07:54.460 or suitable

01:07:55.220 for its docket.

01:07:56.520 And so on,

01:07:57.120 talking about

01:07:57.560 what a hotshot he was.

01:07:59.180 If even half

01:08:00.020 of today's 22-count

01:08:01.540 federal indictment

01:08:02.180 of Goldstein

01:08:02.580 is to be believed,

01:08:03.840 there was a lot

01:08:05.120 to outrun

01:08:06.060 and it caught up

01:08:07.060 with Goldstein,

01:08:07.740 his alleged dark side.

01:08:09.340 He was also

01:08:10.260 an ultra-high-stakes

01:08:11.700 poker player,

01:08:12.640 frequently playing

01:08:13.420 in the United States

01:08:14.300 and abroad,

01:08:15.320 involving stakes

01:08:16.040 totaling millions,

01:08:16.980 even tens

01:08:17.680 of millions

01:08:18.040 of dollars.

01:08:18.820 He financed that

01:08:19.640 by, quote,

01:08:20.180 borrowing millions

01:08:20.800 of dollars,

01:08:21.340 this is quoting

01:08:21.720 from the indictment,

01:08:22.700 or getting people

01:08:23.380 to stake him

01:08:24.040 in exchange

01:08:24.700 for a share

01:08:25.600 of his winnings

01:08:26.300 if he won.

01:08:27.260 At times,

01:08:27.880 he won big.

01:08:28.620 The indictment

01:08:29.080 recites a 13.8 million

01:08:30.800 win in Hong Kong

01:08:31.700 in 2016

01:08:32.680 and taking a California

01:08:34.300 businessman

01:08:34.760 for 26 million

01:08:36.500 in Beverly Hills

01:08:37.820 that same year,

01:08:38.840 but he also

01:08:39.460 frequently held

01:08:40.180 gambling debts

01:08:41.100 approaching 10 million.

01:08:43.840 We'll get to the women 1.00

01:08:44.840 in a minute.

01:08:46.420 But Maureen, 0.87

01:08:46.980 and he denies

01:08:47.720 these allegations.

01:08:48.660 Okay,

01:08:48.840 I should say,

01:08:49.840 he gave a statement,

01:08:50.720 I believe it was

01:08:51.460 to Reason Magazine,

01:08:52.880 and I screen grabbed it

01:08:55.500 so I would remember

01:08:56.320 to read it,

01:08:56.860 but it was,

01:08:58.340 Mr. Goldstein

01:09:01.500 is a prominent attorney

01:09:02.380 with an impeccable reputation.

01:09:03.720 We are deeply disappointed

01:09:04.580 that the government

01:09:05.120 brought these charges

01:09:05.840 in a rush to judgment

01:09:06.660 without understanding

01:09:07.520 all of the important facts.

01:09:09.040 Our client intends

01:09:09.700 to vigorously contest

01:09:10.540 the charges,

01:09:11.380 and we expect

01:09:12.320 he will be exonerated

01:09:13.440 at trial from his lawyer.

01:09:16.000 So,

01:09:17.300 how,

01:09:17.880 let's,

01:09:18.360 if this is,

01:09:19.080 if this is true

01:09:20.400 in any way,

01:09:21.560 you have one of the most,

01:09:24.800 I mean,

01:09:25.120 top 1% prominent

01:09:26.680 attorneys in America,

01:09:28.720 and at the top,

01:09:30.000 top,

01:09:30.320 most respected place,

01:09:31.320 Supreme Court litigation,

01:09:32.380 the Supreme Court bar,

01:09:33.620 who all the justices know

01:09:35.420 and probably have cocktails with,

01:09:37.860 on this mad poker spree,

01:09:41.740 where obviously the guy,

01:09:42.820 I mean,

01:09:43.280 appears to have some sort

01:09:44.040 of a gambling addiction,

01:09:45.280 to the tune of $26 million wins

01:09:47.920 and $10 million losses.

01:09:49.860 There's an allegation

01:09:50.420 he was caught crossing the border

01:09:51.500 with a black bag that had-

01:09:52.580 The duffel bag.

01:09:53.520 Yes,

01:09:54.100 yes,

01:09:54.560 a million dollars in cash,

01:09:57.040 and one of the ways

01:09:58.140 it sounds like he got caught

01:09:59.240 was he declared that

01:10:00.180 to the customs official,

01:10:01.700 but then didn't put it down

01:10:03.240 his earnings on his taxes,

01:10:04.880 committing some massive tax fraud

01:10:07.240 where he didn't,

01:10:08.220 wasn't accounting

01:10:09.820 for all these winnings

01:10:11.840 or the losses

01:10:13.480 when he like applied

01:10:15.280 for mortgage loans

01:10:16.260 and banks need to see

01:10:17.460 what your outstanding

01:10:18.140 liabilities for.

01:10:19.300 It blows my mind, Maureen.

01:10:21.140 I don't know why,

01:10:21.860 I just feel like

01:10:22.760 someone at that level

01:10:24.460 of practice

01:10:25.000 wouldn't behave that way.

01:10:27.540 Okay.

01:10:28.500 I had a different take

01:10:30.180 while reading this indictment,

01:10:32.020 which is a ride.

01:10:33.800 Like,

01:10:34.060 when I got to the part

01:10:34.720 with the duffel bag

01:10:35.420 and I'm like,

01:10:36.200 and the women, 1.00

01:10:37.280 the women, 0.96

01:10:37.940 and I'm like,

01:10:38.300 okay,

01:10:38.460 when does the wife come in? 1.00

01:10:39.440 There's a wife here somewhere. 1.00

01:10:40.520 She comes in later 0.97

01:10:41.460 in the narrative.

01:10:42.620 But I was thinking,

01:10:43.680 like,

01:10:43.900 I would bet a guy

01:10:45.320 with this level of intellect

01:10:46.780 and a guy who probably

01:10:48.020 likes to take on risky cases,

01:10:50.320 like,

01:10:50.620 has a need

01:10:51.540 for some kind of adrenaline

01:10:53.080 like this.

01:10:53.880 And like,

01:10:54.600 in his off time,

01:10:55.700 this is relaxing to him

01:10:57.000 to maybe, like,

01:10:57.940 literally bet the house,

01:10:59.560 you know?

01:10:59.980 Yeah.

01:11:00.240 To, like,

01:11:00.580 literally owe people money 0.83

01:11:02.420 who would break your legs 0.98

01:11:04.020 or kill a loved one 0.99

01:11:05.220 if you don't pay up. 0.99

01:11:06.840 Like,

01:11:07.700 there was a part

01:11:08.460 in the indictment

01:11:09.200 where he hired,

01:11:11.000 he was going to play,

01:11:11.900 like,

01:11:11.960 a super high-stakes game,

01:11:13.160 like,

01:11:13.280 if you saw the movie

01:11:13.960 Molly's Game,

01:11:14.740 like,

01:11:14.880 you know what these rooms

01:11:15.660 are like.

01:11:16.120 Yeah.

01:11:16.820 And he hired

01:11:18.460 two professional poker players

01:11:20.500 to watch film

01:11:21.800 or basically game out

01:11:23.560 his opponents in a game

01:11:25.720 the way,

01:11:26.980 the mistakes they made,

01:11:28.860 like,

01:11:29.260 sort of break down

01:11:30.020 their psyches,

01:11:30.900 then read the mistakes

01:11:32.260 that he made.

01:11:33.360 It was like game film,

01:11:34.580 like a Tom Brady.

01:11:35.700 Yes.

01:11:36.000 You know?

01:11:36.900 And then they had

01:11:37.880 some sort of

01:11:38.380 a computer program

01:11:39.560 run,

01:11:40.000 like,

01:11:40.160 AI workouts

01:11:41.700 of how the poker game

01:11:42.800 against said person

01:11:43.720 might go

01:11:44.400 so he could anticipate

01:11:45.840 he would probably

01:11:46.780 respond like this

01:11:47.620 so then I should

01:11:48.100 respond like that.

01:11:49.480 Right.

01:11:50.120 A lot of time

01:11:50.700 was put into winning

01:11:51.360 these games.

01:11:52.280 A lot.

01:11:53.460 And the amount of,

01:11:54.700 like,

01:11:55.000 and the hubris

01:11:56.400 to, like,

01:11:56.780 go to a bank

01:11:57.480 and be like,

01:11:57.980 give me a $4 million loan

01:11:59.500 while he's got

01:12:00.460 an outstanding $10 million

01:12:01.780 personal loan

01:12:02.880 from somebody else

01:12:03.840 in Beverly Hills.

01:12:04.880 Like,

01:12:05.920 I,

01:12:06.380 this case to me

01:12:07.420 is so reminiscent

01:12:09.660 of the ongoing

01:12:10.860 Tom Girardi,

01:12:12.820 Erika Jayne scandal. 0.81

01:12:14.160 Explain who that is.

01:12:14.840 So Erika Jayne

01:12:15.640 is a cast member

01:12:16.340 of The Real Housewives

01:12:17.200 of Beverly Hills,

01:12:18.400 one of the best

01:12:19.160 of the franchise.

01:12:20.000 Yeah.

01:12:20.180 She was a much

01:12:21.420 younger trophy wife 0.88

01:12:22.500 to a very famous

01:12:23.560 criminal attorney

01:12:24.460 named,

01:12:25.560 and civil attorney,

01:12:26.460 I believe,

01:12:27.360 Tom Girardi,

01:12:28.520 who was most known

01:12:29.780 as the lawyer

01:12:31.800 who litigated

01:12:32.480 for Erin Brockovich.

01:12:34.020 Oh.

01:12:34.640 So he had that

01:12:35.400 going for him.

01:12:36.340 And he was held

01:12:37.340 in high esteem

01:12:38.080 and he moved

01:12:38.940 with all the movers

01:12:39.620 and shakers.

01:12:40.540 Turns out,

01:12:41.740 for decades,

01:12:42.680 he had been fleecing

01:12:43.620 his clients.

01:12:45.000 So he would represent,

01:12:46.400 he represented

01:12:46.980 the widows and orphans

01:12:48.880 of like one

01:12:49.820 of the biggest

01:12:50.280 plane crashes

01:12:50.920 in recent memory.

01:12:52.420 Fleeced them.

01:12:53.460 What?

01:12:53.900 Fleeced them.

01:12:54.520 How do we know?

01:12:55.020 Wait,

01:12:55.140 we're saying fleeced

01:12:55.820 based on what?

01:12:56.480 This has been found

01:12:57.000 by a jury or?

01:12:58.100 He was convicted.

01:12:58.920 Oh, oh.

01:12:59.660 And he pled dementia

01:13:01.280 at a very crucial time.

01:13:03.740 Oh, you don't know

01:13:04.680 what you're missing.

01:13:05.200 I need to get more involved

01:13:06.640 in The Real Housewives 0.97

01:13:07.340 drama.

01:13:07.680 The lawyer in you.

01:13:08.280 I know.

01:13:08.740 Some of the best TV ever.

01:13:10.300 Meanwhile,

01:13:10.940 his wife is saying,

01:13:13.640 well,

01:13:14.080 I didn't know anything

01:13:15.340 and I'm not giving up

01:13:17.020 all the jewelry

01:13:17.780 he gave me 0.80

01:13:18.460 with that dirty money. 0.82

01:13:19.800 Widows and orphans, 0.99

01:13:20.940 I don't care. 1.00

01:13:22.160 Be damned. 1.00

01:13:22.680 Widows and orphans, 1.00

01:13:23.440 be damned. 1.00

01:13:23.900 There's a great 0.96

01:13:24.880 Hulu documentary.

01:13:26.560 I think it's called

01:13:27.080 The Housewife

01:13:27.580 and the Hustler.

01:13:28.380 Oh.

01:13:28.940 And they interviewed

01:13:29.640 one of the victims

01:13:30.640 It's amazing.

01:13:31.560 They interviewed

01:13:32.000 one of the victims

01:13:32.780 that he fleeced.

01:13:34.160 I'm going to say

01:13:34.520 quote unquote fleeced.

01:13:35.780 This guy was burned

01:13:36.920 nearly beyond recognition

01:13:38.460 that he is still alive

01:13:40.240 is a miracle.

01:13:41.460 He stole

01:13:42.580 the millions

01:13:44.140 and millions

01:13:44.700 this guy was awarded.

01:13:45.720 Oh, wow.

01:13:46.120 It was just

01:13:46.540 and there were women 1.00

01:13:47.760 and there were

01:13:48.580 I mean,

01:13:49.240 it's like everything.

01:13:50.720 So that's this to me.

01:13:52.600 Like my

01:13:52.940 Okay, first of all,

01:13:54.000 if you marry

01:13:54.380 one of these Real Housewives, 1.00

01:13:55.320 you know what you're like

01:13:55.860 then I look at you differently.

01:13:57.980 I got to be honest.

01:13:58.580 Like I see you differently.

01:13:59.720 Of course.

01:14:00.360 But this guy

01:14:01.200 was the picture

01:14:02.840 of respectability.

01:14:05.200 Like this guy,

01:14:06.640 we put him on

01:14:07.720 all the time.

01:14:08.460 Everybody would.

01:14:09.040 It wasn't just Fox,

01:14:09.660 CNN, MSNBC,

01:14:10.840 all of them.

01:14:11.160 Um, and like you saw him

01:14:14.420 like it's a bald,

01:14:16.160 mild-mannered kind of

01:14:17.680 meek little guy.

01:14:19.620 Like he's not,

01:14:20.820 I don't know what I'm picturing

01:14:22.020 as your average criminal.

01:14:23.900 And again,

01:14:24.520 he denies the charges.

01:14:25.500 We'll find out

01:14:25.960 whether he's a criminal.

01:14:26.640 But on top of all

01:14:28.180 this massive gambling

01:14:29.360 and applying,

01:14:30.100 that's, that is hubris.

01:14:31.520 That's ballsy

01:14:32.220 to go to the bank

01:14:32.740 to apply for a mortgage

01:14:33.680 and not reveal

01:14:34.800 your $10 million

01:14:35.540 in gambling debt.

01:14:37.220 Um, on top of that,

01:14:39.700 they're alleging

01:14:40.720 that he was cheating

01:14:41.760 on his wife,

01:14:42.260 who's a partner

01:14:42.700 in his law firm,

01:14:43.420 um, with a bunch

01:14:46.060 of women.

01:14:46.480 I think at least

01:14:47.320 four women.

01:14:48.240 Again, back to

01:14:49.160 the National Review

01:14:49.700 report.

01:14:50.460 He was involved,

01:14:51.440 according to the indictment,

01:14:52.560 or pursued intimate

01:14:53.780 personal relationships

01:14:54.620 with at least,

01:14:55.440 oh, at least a dozen women. 0.94

01:14:56.960 Not more, not four,

01:14:58.040 12 at least,

01:14:59.400 transferring hundreds

01:15:00.540 of thousands of dollars

01:15:01.520 to them,

01:15:02.140 in addition to other costs

01:15:03.840 of their travel

01:15:04.400 and expenses.

01:15:04.860 He allegedly hired

01:15:06.380 four of them

01:15:07.420 as sham employees

01:15:09.060 of his firm

01:15:09.560 to get them

01:15:10.020 health insurance.

01:15:11.180 He was otherwise

01:15:11.980 allegedly using the firm

01:15:12.980 as a personal piggy bank

01:15:14.160 to cover his lifestyle.

01:15:15.620 That's Alex Murdoch-esque,

01:15:17.360 that last part,

01:15:18.180 where you use

01:15:18.620 the law firm money

01:15:19.500 and the Tom Girardi

01:15:21.400 kind of thing,

01:15:22.140 where if you,

01:15:22.780 if it's true

01:15:23.180 that he used

01:15:23.560 the law firm's money

01:15:24.820 to pay off gambling debts

01:15:26.060 and screwing 1.00

01:15:27.700 all your other partners 0.65

01:15:28.460 and potentially clients

01:15:29.680 and putting four

01:15:30.780 of your alleged affair partners

01:15:31.960 on the company ledger

01:15:33.320 so they can have

01:15:33.860 health insurance benefits,

01:15:34.840 I mean,

01:15:35.640 in his defense,

01:15:36.340 I'm sure it was tough

01:15:36.920 for Tom Goldstein

01:15:37.880 to get ladies.

01:15:39.420 I'm just gonna take 0.88

01:15:40.580 a shot in the dark.

01:15:41.820 100%.

01:15:42.220 But my God.

01:15:43.380 Well, you know,

01:15:44.280 the other thing about that

01:15:45.220 was, oh,

01:15:45.640 my favorite part of that

01:15:46.500 was, so apparently

01:15:47.680 one of the women 0.77

01:15:48.380 had her lawyer 0.81

01:15:50.040 go to this guy

01:15:51.500 and say,

01:15:52.080 listen,

01:15:52.540 you gotta pay us

01:15:53.460 some money

01:15:53.840 for her to keep quiet.

01:15:55.440 And he said,

01:15:57.140 don't bother.

01:15:58.460 I owe so-and-so

01:15:59.620 10,

01:16:00.060 I have so many debts

01:16:01.320 you never see the money.

01:16:02.820 Like, do what you want.

01:16:03.820 Like, I can't,

01:16:04.440 I'm not,

01:16:04.620 this is too small time

01:16:06.040 for me.

01:16:07.220 So,

01:16:08.340 the,

01:16:08.740 again,

01:16:09.240 reason.com

01:16:10.140 posted this.

01:16:12.560 It's,

01:16:12.680 it's by,

01:16:14.360 it's under the Vala conspiracy,

01:16:15.660 but I saw Reason

01:16:16.220 tweeted it out.

01:16:16.860 And they,

01:16:19.040 this guy,

01:16:19.400 Josh Blackman

01:16:19.960 did a very good piece

01:16:20.960 and he's,

01:16:22.860 he went back

01:16:23.600 and looked at all

01:16:24.680 the arguments

01:16:25.400 Tom Goldstein had

01:16:26.840 before the Supreme Court

01:16:28.040 during the relevant

01:16:29.000 time frame,

01:16:29.640 which I think was

01:16:30.080 from 2015 or 16

01:16:31.440 to 22.

01:16:32.440 And this guy was arguing

01:16:35.240 some of the biggest,

01:16:36.280 most complex,

01:16:37.180 most difficult,

01:16:37.960 challenging cases

01:16:39.020 we've had

01:16:39.820 against some of the

01:16:40.980 most formidable

01:16:41.900 adversaries,

01:16:43.200 including Paul Clement,

01:16:45.700 former solicitor general

01:16:46.820 under George W. Bush.

01:16:48.120 This guy will shred you

01:16:49.680 with his rhetorical skills.

01:16:51.040 Don't argue against

01:16:51.860 Paul Clement.

01:16:53.400 Neil Katyal,

01:16:54.580 who's a far left guy,

01:16:55.740 but he used to be

01:16:56.360 at Jones Day

01:16:56.860 and he was,

01:16:58.220 he used to be solicitor general.

01:16:59.600 I think I am pretty sure

01:17:01.180 he was under Obama.

01:17:02.160 In any event,

01:17:02.560 these are very skilled advocates

01:17:03.860 and he was going in there

01:17:05.460 and winning against

01:17:06.300 these people

01:17:06.740 while he's racking up

01:17:08.540 these millions,

01:17:09.740 tens of millions in debt

01:17:11.300 and then the next weekend

01:17:12.560 winning.

01:17:13.600 I just,

01:17:14.820 to your point about

01:17:15.460 the adrenaline,

01:17:16.700 that person's,

01:17:17.620 I don't even,

01:17:18.220 I don't recognize that

01:17:19.300 as human behavior.

01:17:20.540 I would be such a

01:17:21.880 puddle of nerves.

01:17:25.060 I know.

01:17:25.500 I'm too afraid

01:17:26.640 to commit a crime.

01:17:28.180 I'm too,

01:17:28.540 Well,

01:17:28.940 forget even about the crime.

01:17:30.280 Think about like how like

01:17:31.240 when you were starting out

01:17:32.520 in your career

01:17:33.220 or like any of us

01:17:34.360 starting out

01:17:34.920 and like,

01:17:35.640 you know,

01:17:36.120 unpaid bills

01:17:36.980 or outstanding student loan debt

01:17:38.740 can literally keep you up at night.

01:17:40.300 Like decent people are like,

01:17:41.680 Oh my God,

01:17:42.320 how am I going to pay this?

01:17:43.660 Yes.

01:17:44.000 And this guy is like,

01:17:45.280 I'm just going to take a duffel bag

01:17:46.600 and I'm going to cross 0.98

01:17:47.520 national boundaries

01:17:49.200 and I'm going to have

01:17:50.480 like,

01:17:50.980 he had like an offshore account

01:17:52.160 like in Mauritania.

01:17:53.580 Like just what,

01:17:54.680 like this is like,

01:17:55.340 I want,

01:17:56.200 I want the like scripted

01:17:57.620 and unscripted version.

01:17:58.600 Oh,

01:17:58.940 I dearly,

01:18:00.100 I would give anything

01:18:01.560 to be a fly on the wall

01:18:03.240 of the Supreme Court

01:18:04.340 justices chambers

01:18:05.300 or their next meeting.

01:18:06.560 I guarantee you

01:18:08.000 in there is 1.00

01:18:08.680 holy shit. 0.99

01:18:10.520 Have you seen the news 1.00

01:18:11.440 about Tom Goldstein?

01:18:12.620 It's just to me

01:18:13.260 it's such a juxtaposition

01:18:14.240 position of

01:18:15.120 huge respectability,

01:18:17.800 you know,

01:18:18.120 cause like,

01:18:18.640 look,

01:18:18.880 Harvey Weinstein fell 0.96

01:18:19.800 for being a predator.

01:18:21.200 Roger Ailes went down

01:18:21.940 for similar reasons.

01:18:22.940 Jeffrey Epstein,

01:18:25.580 I mean,

01:18:26.140 same times a hundred,

01:18:27.820 but like you,

01:18:29.300 you didn't really look

01:18:30.320 at any of them

01:18:30.980 and say never.

01:18:32.480 Right.

01:18:33.040 No.

01:18:33.640 Right.

01:18:34.000 The height of respectability.

01:18:35.420 Bill Cosby,

01:18:35.900 maybe.

01:18:36.360 Maybe Bill Cosby,

01:18:37.320 but like this guy,

01:18:39.780 the nerdy Supreme Court

01:18:41.480 litigator

01:18:42.160 who probably

01:18:43.100 every respectable lawyer

01:18:44.760 and judge in the country

01:18:45.700 knows,

01:18:46.220 it's just such a double life.

01:18:48.240 That's how it feels to me.

01:18:49.660 And,

01:18:49.840 and do you have to be 0.98

01:18:50.640 a sociopath to get away 0.95

01:18:51.860 to like, 0.96

01:18:52.520 that's what,

01:18:53.120 what's most intriguing.

01:18:54.180 Like,

01:18:54.700 how do you go in there

01:18:55.920 stone-faced

01:18:56.620 and argue the cases?

01:18:57.520 You know how it is

01:18:57.980 when something's stressing you out?

01:18:59.520 Think about if you were

01:19:00.200 going to get sued.

01:19:00.960 Getting sued is very stressful

01:19:02.140 and you've got a Supreme Court

01:19:03.900 argument you got to prepare for. 1.00

01:19:05.480 Oh shit. 1.00

01:19:06.260 I couldn't think about anything. 1.00

01:19:07.440 I'd be so distracted.

01:19:08.720 And this guy,

01:19:10.240 he's,

01:19:10.680 he's got to know

01:19:11.500 at some point

01:19:12.080 that he's facing

01:19:12.700 possible indictment

01:19:13.880 by the feds.

01:19:14.620 He's hiding,

01:19:15.580 allegedly,

01:19:16.820 a massive shell game of money.

01:19:18.460 And he's in there

01:19:19.040 like slicing

01:19:19.940 and dicing Paul Clement

01:19:20.940 and like,

01:19:22.120 you're built differently.

01:19:23.620 There's something missing.

01:19:24.580 There's a chip that I have

01:19:25.680 that you don't have.

01:19:26.500 Right.

01:19:26.700 No,

01:19:26.840 but that's why

01:19:27.240 it's such a great story.

01:19:28.180 And it goes to sort of

01:19:29.120 just like the world

01:19:30.020 we live in right now

01:19:30.900 where it's like

01:19:31.400 everything you see

01:19:32.580 on social media

01:19:33.440 is actually not

01:19:34.540 what's going on

01:19:35.160 in a person's actual life.

01:19:36.560 You know that story

01:19:37.300 about the,

01:19:37.900 the Hamptons

01:19:39.740 like mom fluencer 0.56

01:19:40.980 whose husband

01:19:41.680 committed suicide.

01:19:43.220 So she was all,

01:19:44.220 she had this like account.

01:19:45.340 She was like an influencer.

01:19:46.360 She was like bragging 1.00

01:19:47.520 about her Hamptons lifestyle

01:19:49.580 funded by her husband

01:19:50.700 who was like a multimillionaire.

01:19:52.240 Turns out this guy

01:19:53.100 was pulling a similar shell game

01:19:54.980 like in the weeks

01:19:56.560 before his death

01:19:57.460 was like begging people

01:19:58.700 for money

01:19:59.260 to like plug holes.

01:20:00.700 And they were finally like,

01:20:01.900 we can't,

01:20:02.800 you're untrustworthy.

01:20:03.940 He killed himself 0.97

01:20:05.100 in the garage.

01:20:06.300 Turns out he left them

01:20:07.520 penniless.

01:20:08.320 Like she had like $8,000

01:20:09.440 in the account.

01:20:10.640 Like it's this kind of thing.

01:20:12.080 It's like this,

01:20:13.280 the disconnect

01:20:14.460 between what people

01:20:15.560 present themselves to be

01:20:16.960 and what they actually are.

01:20:18.700 And it's endlessly fascinating.

01:20:20.380 Really.

01:20:21.200 One other interesting nugget

01:20:22.360 on Tom Goldstein.

01:20:24.280 This past November,

01:20:25.800 even though he'd kind of

01:20:26.980 shrunk his public presence,

01:20:28.440 right?

01:20:28.620 Like at the Supreme Court bar,

01:20:30.080 he had retired.

01:20:31.180 He shrunk,

01:20:32.280 just go to his blog,

01:20:33.240 which people had said

01:20:34.240 already had basically died

01:20:35.860 pursuant to their announcement.

01:20:37.360 They were killing it.

01:20:38.120 Um,

01:20:39.120 but in November,

01:20:40.700 okay,

01:20:41.080 November of this year,

01:20:42.760 after Trump won,

01:20:44.820 Tom Goldstein comes out

01:20:45.800 with a,

01:20:46.380 an op-ed in the New York Times

01:20:48.440 saying that all remaining

01:20:50.200 lawfare should be dropped

01:20:52.400 against him.

01:20:53.840 Which was clearly

01:20:54.900 the preemptive,

01:20:56.380 I'm on your side,

01:20:57.560 Mr. President.

01:20:58.400 And guess who he hired

01:20:59.240 to represent him?

01:21:00.400 Trump's two lawyers.

01:21:01.680 So we're looking for a pardon?

01:21:02.880 Of course.

01:21:03.540 He's definitely trying

01:21:04.560 to line himself up

01:21:05.260 for a pardon,

01:21:05.960 which is just,

01:21:06.940 ugh.

01:21:08.120 If he did it,

01:21:09.000 he shouldn't get one.

01:21:10.260 And, um,

01:21:11.580 if he didn't do it,

01:21:13.620 then let's stay open-minded

01:21:15.440 to that and we'll come on

01:21:16.940 and we'll give you

01:21:17.440 all the reporting

01:21:18.200 that the case fell apart

01:21:19.120 if and when.

01:21:20.900 Duh.

01:21:21.760 Okay.

01:21:22.640 Quick break.

01:21:23.440 Back with more

01:21:24.040 on the Justin Blake drama.

01:21:25.580 And there is drama.

01:21:26.960 Wait until you hear

01:21:28.160 the absurd text

01:21:30.160 this woman,

01:21:31.040 Blake Lively,

01:21:32.140 sent to Justin Baldoni.

01:21:34.000 It's in the lawsuit

01:21:35.020 that Brian Friedman

01:21:35.700 just filed,

01:21:36.720 comparing herself

01:21:38.520 to Khaleesi

01:21:40.760 of Game of Thrones.

01:21:42.700 Stand by.

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01:23:46.120 Okay, so as I mentioned,

01:23:47.720 the inauguration of Donald Trump

01:23:49.040 is happening on Monday.

01:23:50.060 One person who will not be there

01:23:51.620 is Michelle Obama.

01:23:53.660 And we're going to get to

01:23:54.480 some of the speculation

01:23:55.320 around why.

01:23:55.940 But first, Melania Trump

01:23:58.260 sat down with Ainsley Earhart

01:24:00.400 of Fox and Friends

01:24:01.440 on Fox

01:24:02.240 and offered a bit of a jab

01:24:05.480 against how she and Donald

01:24:07.980 were treated by the Obamas

01:24:09.260 when they took over

01:24:10.460 at the White House

01:24:11.100 as the Obamas left

01:24:12.540 first time around.

01:24:13.320 Watch.

01:24:14.900 Behind the scenes,

01:24:16.020 what is it like

01:24:16.700 when you're moving back

01:24:17.620 in the White House?

01:24:18.560 Are you,

01:24:19.280 what's different this time?

01:24:20.860 The difference is

01:24:21.700 I know where I will be going.

01:24:23.580 I know the rooms

01:24:24.900 where we will be living.

01:24:26.840 I know the process.

01:24:28.460 The first time was challenging.

01:24:30.700 We didn't have much

01:24:31.940 of the information.

01:24:33.580 The information was

01:24:34.920 upheld for us

01:24:37.280 from previous administration.

01:24:40.180 But this time,

01:24:41.000 I have everything.

01:24:41.920 So it's very different

01:24:43.620 transition this time,

01:24:45.420 second time around.

01:24:46.360 So the Obamas

01:24:49.180 did not fully share

01:24:50.620 everything that would

01:24:51.560 normally be shared

01:24:52.420 with the Trumps.

01:24:54.380 Now we see,

01:24:55.360 of course,

01:24:55.760 it must be noted,

01:24:56.700 Trump skipped

01:24:57.360 the Biden inauguration

01:24:58.900 because he was doing

01:24:59.680 his January 6th stuff.

01:25:01.880 But now you have Michelle

01:25:03.660 skipping this inauguration

01:25:06.400 and there is speculation

01:25:07.760 in the press that,

01:25:08.960 yes, it could be

01:25:09.520 because she hates Donald Trump,

01:25:11.040 but she hated

01:25:11.760 Donald Trump in 16, too,

01:25:13.900 and she went. 0.97

01:25:16.040 With a puss on her face. 1.00

01:25:17.400 Right. 0.81

01:25:18.020 But or is it because

01:25:19.300 there's trouble in paradise?

01:25:22.260 There are a bunch of reports now.

01:25:24.720 It's her birthday today

01:25:25.580 and she tweeted something out

01:25:26.920 and Barack tweeted,

01:25:27.820 I love you.

01:25:28.340 Like on paper,

01:25:29.600 they're being lovey.

01:25:30.920 But this is what's

01:25:32.460 coming up to surface.

01:25:34.160 She gave an interview,

01:25:35.560 for example,

01:25:36.300 on Jennifer Hudson's show

01:25:38.180 within the past year.

01:25:40.320 It was in December.

01:25:41.260 So it was a month ago.

01:25:43.700 And listen to her talk

01:25:44.940 about Barack here.

01:25:46.300 It's hot 16.

01:25:47.280 How's our former president doing?

01:25:49.080 He's doing okay.

01:25:50.260 He's doing all right.

01:25:51.360 Yeah, yeah.

01:25:51.980 He's still working too hard,

01:25:54.160 you know.

01:25:55.120 But I think that's something

01:25:56.640 he will always do.

01:25:59.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:00.200 Yeah, that was our

01:26:01.400 anniversary date.

01:26:04.640 But he's doing well,

01:26:06.700 working hard

01:26:08.620 on the Obama presidential center.

01:26:10.720 So we've been able

01:26:13.900 to get some fun dates.

01:26:15.080 That picture was us

01:26:16.120 at the U.S. Open.

01:26:17.580 And that was the first time

01:26:18.680 he got to go

01:26:19.360 to the U.S. Open in person.

01:26:21.560 But he's working hard

01:26:22.800 on the Obama presidential center,

01:26:24.740 which is on the south side

01:26:25.840 of Chicago.

01:26:26.660 I love that.

01:26:27.380 Yeah.

01:26:28.180 We're going to head

01:26:29.160 to the island

01:26:30.440 for a little sun.

01:26:31.520 Nice.

01:26:32.820 Ooh, that's the way

01:26:33.720 to spend the Christmas.

01:26:35.160 I like that.

01:26:35.580 I know.

01:26:36.120 I tell you,

01:26:36.780 that's why you got to

01:26:37.620 pick your husband right. 1.00

01:26:38.680 OK, you know,

01:26:40.340 OK, it's like he got

01:26:41.620 a lot cuter

01:26:42.500 when I found out

01:26:43.300 he was from Hawaii.

01:26:44.500 I was like, oh, OK.

01:26:46.820 That is funny.

01:26:47.960 OK, this on the heels

01:26:51.160 of reports

01:26:53.000 denied by Jennifer Aniston

01:26:54.960 that there

01:26:56.940 there may be something

01:26:58.300 going on

01:26:59.340 between Barack

01:27:00.360 and Jennifer Aniston.

01:27:01.640 But Jennifer Aniston 1.00

01:27:02.420 came out and said

01:27:03.180 this is a tabloid report

01:27:04.240 said,

01:27:05.020 I only met him once.

01:27:06.780 I know Michelle

01:27:07.340 better than I know him.

01:27:08.340 But what's going on here?

01:27:10.540 I find this fascinating.

01:27:12.300 I have been theorizing

01:27:14.120 for months

01:27:14.960 that something is up

01:27:15.820 in this marriage

01:27:16.580 because she was traveling

01:27:18.420 alone over the summer.

01:27:19.760 Not alone.

01:27:20.540 She was traveling

01:27:20.980 with billionaires,

01:27:22.260 which is how they roll now.

01:27:24.820 But he was nowhere

01:27:25.800 to be found, you know.

01:27:27.400 And they're,

01:27:29.260 I don't know,

01:27:29.940 they always sort of

01:27:30.640 sold this great love story.

01:27:32.560 And the way she's

01:27:33.460 talking about him

01:27:34.360 on the Jennifer Hudson show,

01:27:36.100 it was kind of like

01:27:36.760 a distant family member

01:27:37.840 you've ever talked to.

01:27:39.260 He's working a lot

01:27:40.820 and then he's working a lot.

01:27:42.820 And also he happens

01:27:44.700 to be working a lot.

01:27:46.080 But I'm really happy

01:27:47.020 he has a connection

01:27:47.880 to Hawaii at least.

01:27:49.040 Yeah, right.

01:27:49.840 Like I bagged a big one,

01:27:52.100 I guess.

01:27:52.360 I don't know.

01:27:53.280 And she's so,

01:27:54.740 you know,

01:27:54.940 the whole sort of like

01:27:56.040 this self-help empire

01:27:57.540 she's built for herself, 0.67

01:27:59.220 you know,

01:27:59.740 with her books

01:28:00.640 and her like journals

01:28:01.800 and everything.

01:28:03.040 It's just,

01:28:03.920 it all feels very

01:28:05.340 grubby to me.

01:28:08.240 And for her,

01:28:09.820 you know,

01:28:10.040 this country made her 0.98

01:28:10.880 a very wealthy woman.

01:28:12.040 This country made her

01:28:13.060 a very wealthy woman,

01:28:14.700 a very privileged woman.

01:28:16.620 And she can't get out of bed to,

01:28:19.180 I mean,

01:28:19.340 these people fly private.

01:28:20.760 You're not taking more than a day

01:28:22.260 to go to Jimmy Carter's funeral.

01:28:24.960 She had a scheduling conflict,

01:28:26.940 Maureen.

01:28:27.420 Listen,

01:28:28.020 if that scheduling conflict

01:28:29.140 had any import,

01:28:30.800 that conflict would have been detailed.

01:28:33.100 She had a scheduling conflict

01:28:34.360 helping with whatever,

01:28:36.680 whatever,

01:28:37.340 or she's an, 1.00

01:28:38.200 she's,

01:28:38.540 you know,

01:28:38.740 whatever.

01:28:38.860 Almost nothing.

01:28:39.740 Nothing.

01:28:40.260 Cannot be postponed.

01:28:41.380 Even a mammogram,

01:28:42.540 if you're Michelle Obama,

01:28:43.680 it could probably happen the next day.

01:28:44.860 They will wheel the machine to you.

01:28:46.320 Yes.

01:28:46.560 Okay.

01:28:47.440 So,

01:28:48.020 and I also think that now that these rumors

01:28:50.120 have been sort of circulating

01:28:51.580 and there's been speculation

01:28:53.360 in the media about what is going on,

01:28:55.560 there hasn't been a denial.

01:28:57.860 Hmm.

01:28:58.580 Wouldn't you issue a denial

01:29:00.240 if you're a prominent,

01:29:02.460 mega powerful couple like that? 0.98

01:29:04.720 Your brand is so intertwined.

01:29:05.880 But if you did not,

01:29:06.740 like that,

01:29:07.160 that there's marital trouble

01:29:08.400 or that he's having an affair

01:29:09.340 with Jennifer Aniston,

01:29:10.480 which is just crazy.

01:29:11.200 That would be amazing.

01:29:12.500 That would be,

01:29:12.960 I mean,

01:29:13.200 like who would you pick for Barack?

01:29:14.900 Like for wife number two? 0.93

01:29:16.720 I mean,

01:29:17.260 I would pick a man.

01:29:18.620 I,

01:29:19.140 I,

01:29:19.240 that's my favorite thing.

01:29:23.800 I remember when,

01:29:24.660 um,

01:29:25.040 there was this like doorstopper biography

01:29:26.900 of Barack Obama

01:29:27.680 that came out

01:29:28.380 several years ago.

01:29:29.880 Right.

01:29:30.200 And the New York times reviewed it

01:29:31.560 and basically said

01:29:32.260 nothing to see here.

01:29:33.440 And then I read somewhere else.

01:29:35.220 The big takeaway was Barack

01:29:37.160 crushing hard

01:29:38.520 on like his male college professor.

01:29:39.940 Yes, 0.99

01:29:40.120 he had gay fantasies 0.98

01:29:41.500 that he was talking 0.96

01:29:42.360 to an ex-girlfriend about.

01:29:44.120 Yeah.

01:29:44.480 And was like,

01:29:45.240 could I live as a gay man?

01:29:46.540 Cause I really dig this guy.

01:29:47.860 Like there's nothing to see here.

01:29:49.580 Yeah.

01:29:50.280 I was like,

01:29:51.200 it could be on to something.

01:29:52.020 I'm just going to say like,

01:29:53.200 I'm not sure,

01:29:54.600 but I,

01:29:54.900 I wouldn't put him down

01:29:55.800 for any second wife.

01:29:57.160 I think if those two split,

01:29:58.820 it's going to be

01:29:59.280 confirmed bachelorhood.

01:30:00.980 Oh,

01:30:01.280 interesting.

01:30:01.680 Or the duration.

01:30:03.300 That's what I predict.

01:30:04.480 I don't know whether

01:30:05.260 there's trouble in paradise

01:30:06.160 or she's just being

01:30:07.100 her normal, 0.99

01:30:07.860 miserable self. 0.97

01:30:08.520 She always has like 0.54

01:30:10.160 an unenthusiastic.

01:30:11.700 The only thing she gets

01:30:12.420 enthusiastic about

01:30:13.240 is how much she hates Trump

01:30:14.220 and our country.

01:30:15.620 Those are the things

01:30:16.200 that really seem to animate her. 1.00

01:30:18.340 It's so true. 0.84

01:30:19.080 Love for Barack

01:30:19.480 doesn't seem to be on the list.

01:30:20.600 It's so true. 0.84

01:30:21.600 Okay.

01:30:21.860 So Justin Baldoni,

01:30:22.960 he has fought back yet again.

01:30:24.940 He filed a lawsuit

01:30:25.580 against the New York times,

01:30:26.580 which he had Brian Friedman

01:30:27.520 on to discuss saying

01:30:28.460 it had done a defamatory report

01:30:30.460 on Blake Lively,

01:30:31.680 claims that she was

01:30:32.600 allegedly harassed

01:30:33.440 by this guy

01:30:34.000 when they shot the movie

01:30:35.100 It Ends With Us,

01:30:36.680 a film about domestic violence.

01:30:38.640 In that claim,

01:30:39.840 they said the Times

01:30:40.640 distorted the truth.

01:30:42.100 They did not report

01:30:43.560 text messages

01:30:44.220 which were full and complete,

01:30:46.360 which showed

01:30:46.940 a very different meaning

01:30:48.300 than the snippets

01:30:49.440 that Blake Lively

01:30:50.060 put in her complaint.

01:30:51.680 And that what in fact happened

01:30:52.960 was Justin didn't harass Blake.

01:30:54.920 Blake was interested

01:30:55.780 in wresting control

01:30:56.840 of this movie

01:30:57.380 away from Justin,

01:30:58.280 who was the director

01:30:58.880 and the producer.

01:30:59.500 She was just an actress in it

01:31:00.840 and used threats

01:31:03.040 and coercion 0.97

01:31:04.380 and bullying

01:31:05.220 to do it.

01:31:06.220 And to the point

01:31:07.060 where this guy

01:31:07.480 was in the basement

01:31:08.540 at his own movie's premiere.

01:31:11.160 Now Brian Friedman

01:31:12.160 has filed on behalf

01:31:12.920 of Justin

01:31:13.320 a lawsuit

01:31:14.180 directly against Blake,

01:31:16.100 Ryan Reynolds,

01:31:17.380 and Leslie Sloan,

01:31:18.740 their PR hack.

01:31:19.640 and they're alleging

01:31:21.300 not only did our PR team

01:31:23.720 not hurt Blake

01:31:25.620 or generate a campaign

01:31:26.900 against Blake

01:31:27.740 or do anything

01:31:28.660 to hurt Blake

01:31:29.260 last August

01:31:30.160 when she came

01:31:30.660 under negative press.

01:31:31.600 That was organic

01:31:32.620 because of her own bad behavior.

01:31:34.420 But you guys

01:31:35.600 were the ones out there

01:31:36.800 generating negative press

01:31:38.120 against Justin. 0.93

01:31:39.460 You bullies 0.69

01:31:40.380 were the ones

01:31:41.060 who were trying

01:31:41.680 to ruin Justin

01:31:42.980 so you could have your way

01:31:44.680 on all the scenes

01:31:45.400 and all the wardrobe

01:31:46.220 and all the control

01:31:47.440 and you could feel

01:31:48.600 like the producer

01:31:49.380 and the director

01:31:50.140 when you weren't.

01:31:51.900 And it's full

01:31:52.960 of text messages

01:31:54.020 and details

01:31:56.040 about meetings

01:31:57.280 like the one

01:31:57.800 they had with

01:31:58.520 Ryan Reynolds,

01:31:59.380 Blake Lively,

01:32:00.140 Justin Baldoni,

01:32:01.040 and apparently

01:32:01.520 though the name

01:32:02.000 is blacked out

01:32:02.560 there's an assumption

01:32:03.260 well-founded

01:32:04.320 that it's Taylor Swift,

01:32:06.240 her BFF,

01:32:07.280 at the Reynolds

01:32:08.260 penthouse in Manhattan

01:32:09.600 where Ryan Reynolds

01:32:11.080 allegedly bullied

01:32:12.320 Justin so badly

01:32:13.440 that a Sony representative

01:32:15.240 who was there,

01:32:15.960 the production team

01:32:16.760 behind the movie,

01:32:17.440 and her biggest

01:32:18.300 takeaway was

01:32:19.080 I am very sorry

01:32:20.420 that I let him

01:32:21.420 get away with

01:32:22.020 doing that to Justin.

01:32:23.500 It was so nasty.

01:32:25.240 This guy who's 1.00

01:32:25.840 just the damn husband 1.00

01:32:26.940 and now you see 1.00

01:32:29.280 text messages

01:32:29.880 in this lawsuit

01:32:30.780 from Blake Lively

01:32:32.640 comparing herself

01:32:35.240 to the heroine

01:32:37.520 of Game of Thrones,

01:32:38.780 the fiercest

01:32:39.580 female character

01:32:40.540 we've seen in years,

01:32:42.920 Khaleesi.

01:32:47.440 That's her riding 1.00

01:32:53.720 her dragon.

01:32:54.800 She's the mother

01:32:55.560 of dragons

01:32:56.180 in Game of Thrones

01:32:57.100 and that's what

01:32:58.460 Blake Lively says

01:32:59.620 in a text message

01:33:00.500 that she too

01:33:01.720 has her dragons, 0.98

01:33:03.860 Ryan Reynolds

01:33:04.480 and Taylor Swift.

01:33:06.960 That's, again,

01:33:07.840 believed to be

01:33:08.280 the other person

01:33:08.940 and that they

01:33:10.940 are powerful advocates

01:33:12.460 for her

01:33:13.540 and while it

01:33:14.640 seems to be said

01:33:15.480 like,

01:33:16.320 I'm so lucky

01:33:17.120 that I have them

01:33:18.080 as great storytellers

01:33:19.100 to help me

01:33:19.500 rewrite this script,

01:33:20.980 what Brian Friedman

01:33:21.880 alleges is,

01:33:22.820 you'll go along

01:33:24.700 or I'll unleash 0.90

01:33:25.680 my dragons on you, 1.00

01:33:26.940 you loser 1.00

01:33:27.880 who no one's 1.00

01:33:28.480 ever heard of.

01:33:29.040 This lawsuit

01:33:30.820 is incredible.

01:33:33.120 It has it all.

01:33:34.320 I can't believe

01:33:34.840 neither side

01:33:35.720 is like giving in.

01:33:36.960 They're like digging

01:33:37.560 in further.

01:33:38.680 It feels like

01:33:40.440 a very twisted

01:33:42.120 rom-com to me.

01:33:43.480 Like,

01:33:43.980 the hatred

01:33:44.780 on both sides

01:33:46.080 is so intense

01:33:47.080 it makes you wonder

01:33:48.080 if there was like

01:33:49.340 a deep attraction

01:33:50.660 that whether it was

01:33:51.800 consummated or not.

01:33:53.040 It's very interesting.

01:33:54.320 You can,

01:33:55.560 like,

01:33:55.780 if somebody

01:33:56.900 sort of

01:33:57.560 really

01:33:59.020 is doing something

01:34:00.040 that's like

01:34:00.500 aggravating

01:34:01.400 or trying to

01:34:02.260 get in your way

01:34:03.200 professionally,

01:34:03.800 whatever,

01:34:04.420 if you don't really

01:34:05.640 care about them,

01:34:06.200 you just try to get

01:34:06.720 around them.

01:34:07.340 Yes.

01:34:07.660 You don't try to go

01:34:08.320 through them

01:34:08.980 or like work it out

01:34:09.940 with them.

01:34:10.120 You have your assistant

01:34:11.040 or your agent

01:34:11.560 deal with it

01:34:12.040 if you're not.

01:34:12.680 Yeah,

01:34:12.700 you just,

01:34:13.000 whatever,

01:34:13.320 but like these two

01:34:14.240 are like in it.

01:34:15.820 They are in it

01:34:17.380 and it's like,

01:34:19.120 I've,

01:34:20.760 I think,

01:34:21.660 I think it's

01:34:22.100 extremely strange.

01:34:23.380 I want to know more

01:34:24.260 about the presence

01:34:25.100 of Taylor Swift

01:34:26.100 who sort of leads

01:34:27.680 this like mean girl

01:34:28.620 click.

01:34:29.200 There was this thing

01:34:30.280 happening over the summer

01:34:31.320 that the Daily Mail

01:34:32.020 reported on

01:34:32.740 where there were

01:34:33.840 other female artists

01:34:35.000 such as Billie Eilish

01:34:36.140 who were releasing

01:34:36.860 albums in the,

01:34:38.820 in the sort of

01:34:39.820 tailwinds of

01:34:41.280 her last release.

01:34:43.020 I forget what it was called.

01:34:44.020 I'm just so

01:34:44.680 oversaturated with Taylor Swift.

01:34:46.440 But anyway,

01:34:47.080 she was manipulating

01:34:48.060 all of her new releases

01:34:49.260 to keep these women 0.99

01:34:50.240 from hitting number one.

01:34:51.620 It was just a ploy

01:34:53.380 to keep them.

01:34:54.360 And Billie Eilish's people

01:34:56.420 were like,

01:34:56.940 that's what's happening.

01:34:58.040 That's what's happening.

01:34:59.240 And it's, 0.90

01:34:59.680 it's really shitty

01:35:00.480 for someone who claims

01:35:01.440 to be a champion

01:35:02.720 of fellow women

01:35:03.580 and female artists

01:35:04.740 to be doing,

01:35:05.240 like let someone else

01:35:06.220 have it.

01:35:06.660 Right.

01:35:06.960 Like let someone,

01:35:07.600 you know.

01:35:07.960 No.

01:35:08.300 So this is who she runs with

01:35:09.940 and that tells me everything.

01:35:11.060 And like,

01:35:12.020 I just,

01:35:12.760 to sit there

01:35:13.260 and have your husband

01:35:14.240 bully your director.

01:35:16.900 Yes.

01:35:17.240 You know,

01:35:17.420 like if you don't,

01:35:18.300 if you don't like this, 0.99

01:35:19.060 have the balls 0.99

01:35:19.640 to do it yourself. 0.99

01:35:20.500 Right.

01:35:20.860 Like don't have your husband

01:35:21.860 throw his weight around.

01:35:22.620 Why would you have a meeting

01:35:22.820 with your husband?

01:35:23.520 That's so weird.

01:35:24.160 Like your husband

01:35:24.760 who's Ryan Reynolds,

01:35:25.640 of course it was a threat.

01:35:26.880 And in your penthouse,

01:35:27.980 like on your home turf,

01:35:29.380 like using your wealth

01:35:30.600 as leverage.

01:35:31.940 Right.

01:35:32.180 Like showing off.

01:35:33.060 And your friend Taylor.

01:35:34.240 And your friend Taylor

01:35:35.180 who's like,

01:35:35.580 what is she doing there?

01:35:36.520 Is she just like

01:35:37.020 scrolling Instagram?

01:35:37.820 One of my dragons.

01:35:38.540 What is she,

01:35:39.140 like that is just wild.

01:35:41.800 I think,

01:35:42.200 you know,

01:35:42.420 he'll learn a lot from this,

01:35:43.900 you know,

01:35:44.240 and hopefully,

01:35:44.800 you know,

01:35:45.400 and it's wonderful

01:35:46.540 that we're in this era

01:35:47.360 we're in right now

01:35:48.200 where like people

01:35:48.800 don't automatically

01:35:49.580 take the woman's account 1.00

01:35:52.180 of what happened.

01:35:52.820 They were until Brian

01:35:53.920 filed that lawsuit

01:35:54.680 against the times.

01:35:55.540 Everybody was like,

01:35:55.980 we got it wrong

01:35:56.520 on Blake Lively last summer.

01:35:57.940 That was not an organic

01:35:59.700 negative press experience

01:36:01.780 like that.

01:36:02.200 And they're wrong.

01:36:03.200 There was plenty

01:36:04.140 of organic negative press

01:36:06.140 about Blake Lively last summer

01:36:07.240 that there's been

01:36:08.100 absolutely no proof

01:36:08.780 any of it originated

01:36:09.600 with Justin.

01:36:10.140 My favorite part

01:36:11.860 of what I've read

01:36:12.760 of this suit so far

01:36:13.860 is that Blake Lively

01:36:15.360 did not even read

01:36:17.020 the book

01:36:17.500 that the movie

01:36:18.640 was based on.

01:36:19.340 And we're not talking

01:36:20.100 War and Peace.

01:36:21.100 This is a book

01:36:21.800 that's probably written

01:36:22.640 at a second grade

01:36:23.440 reading level.

01:36:24.160 Yeah.

01:36:24.500 And then she wanted to,

01:36:25.960 she like,

01:36:27.060 Ixnayed 1.00

01:36:28.700 all of the wardrobe choices

01:36:29.900 because when you're

01:36:30.740 making a movie

01:36:31.280 about a poor woman

01:36:32.220 who's suffering

01:36:32.860 from domestic violence,

01:36:34.380 you want her to look

01:36:35.380 like she has money.

01:36:36.940 Right.

01:36:37.720 That Blake said.

01:36:38.720 That's what she did.

01:36:39.260 She looks like she has money 0.97

01:36:40.880 and she's dressing

01:36:41.780 in florals

01:36:42.620 and then she's going 1.00

01:36:43.260 on this press tour

01:36:44.320 pushing her liquor line

01:36:46.600 and her hair care line 0.94

01:36:48.560 because that's what women 1.00

01:36:50.040 who are trying to escape

01:36:52.140 with their lives

01:36:52.980 are worried about.

01:36:53.780 That's what generated

01:36:54.480 her negative press

01:36:55.360 and led to a series of clips

01:36:57.900 of her being insensitive

01:36:59.160 in one way,

01:37:00.300 shape,

01:37:00.500 or form

01:37:00.900 with other interviewers

01:37:02.300 in the past.

01:37:03.920 She has no one to blame 0.99

01:37:04.940 but herself for that.

01:37:06.400 It's like,

01:37:07.200 even if he did orchestrate

01:37:08.760 this campaign,

01:37:09.300 and there's been

01:37:09.600 zero proof he did.

01:37:10.520 In fact,

01:37:10.780 there's proof to the contrary.

01:37:12.940 So what?

01:37:13.480 You provided the clips.

01:37:14.500 You did it.

01:37:15.340 Right.

01:37:15.460 You know,

01:37:15.600 like,

01:37:15.800 nobody made you berate

01:37:18.400 that young woman

01:37:19.140 who said,

01:37:19.880 oh,

01:37:20.240 your little bump is cute

01:37:22.060 when she was eight months pregnant

01:37:23.380 and then she takes a shot

01:37:24.700 at her like, 0.94

01:37:25.240 oh,

01:37:25.440 so is your baby bump

01:37:26.460 to a non-pregnant interviewer

01:37:28.560 who's basically just trying

01:37:29.660 to acknowledge the obvious

01:37:31.020 in the interview.

01:37:31.840 And just establish

01:37:32.420 a little rapport.

01:37:33.540 Yes.

01:37:33.660 Just a little friendly rapport.

01:37:34.740 Like,

01:37:34.880 is that too much to do?

01:37:36.780 Like,

01:37:37.000 this is part of why

01:37:37.800 you're getting paid

01:37:38.560 millions and millions of dollars.

01:37:40.080 The press tour

01:37:40.940 is part of that pay package.

01:37:42.960 Right.

01:37:43.200 You have to show up

01:37:43.920 with a smile on your face

01:37:44.980 and be polite to people

01:37:46.060 who are not lobbing,

01:37:47.760 you know,

01:37:48.480 difficult questions at you.

01:37:49.820 They're softballs. 1.00

01:37:50.600 I have to say,

01:37:51.080 my favorite actress,

01:37:53.300 the person who I think

01:37:54.760 handles almost all of these things

01:37:56.300 perfectly,

01:37:57.220 is Kate Winslet.

01:37:59.160 I just think she does very well

01:38:00.520 in these interviews.

01:38:01.280 Like,

01:38:01.440 she seems real to me.

01:38:02.560 She seems honest.

01:38:03.580 She's self-deprecating.

01:38:05.660 I just,

01:38:06.420 like,

01:38:06.840 she's not perfect either,

01:38:07.920 but I just feel like

01:38:08.580 more times than not,

01:38:11.100 she gets it right

01:38:12.080 as opposed to like

01:38:12.740 trying to puff herself up.

01:38:13.920 Right.

01:38:14.300 You know,

01:38:14.700 it's kind of being

01:38:15.120 self-deprecating usually.

01:38:16.480 The Brits are great at that.

01:38:17.340 Yeah.

01:38:17.720 Anyway,

01:38:18.080 she could take a lesson here.

01:38:19.040 This is just posted

01:38:19.900 to your publication

01:38:20.600 in the Daily Mail

01:38:21.140 a few minutes ago.

01:38:22.480 Taylor is proud of the film

01:38:24.480 because her music

01:38:25.720 was featured in it,

01:38:26.720 which gave her

01:38:27.200 a sense of involvement,

01:38:28.360 though she wasn't fully aware

01:38:29.520 of the extent

01:38:29.980 of the project's developments.

01:38:31.180 Her,

01:38:31.460 I guess it's her rep said,

01:38:32.920 quote,

01:38:33.120 she is confused

01:38:34.220 by the claims in the suit

01:38:35.360 as her connection to Blake

01:38:36.580 is purely a friendship

01:38:37.360 with no interest

01:38:38.000 in influencing

01:38:38.540 or controlling Blake's projects.

01:38:39.880 End quote.

01:38:40.600 The source insisted,

01:38:41.500 okay,

01:38:41.680 so it's not a named,

01:38:42.640 but the source insisted

01:38:43.420 that Taylor

01:38:44.000 did not purposefully

01:38:46.100 plan to be there

01:38:47.460 during the meeting,

01:38:48.240 but it sounds like

01:38:48.800 an admission she was there.

01:38:50.280 Instead,

01:38:50.640 they said she was simply

01:38:51.840 coming over to hang out

01:38:52.820 with her pal,

01:38:53.680 but arrived while the meeting,

01:38:55.140 which was supposed

01:38:55.760 to have been wrapped up,

01:38:57.120 was still going.

01:38:57.820 Okay,

01:38:58.040 so she was at the meeting

01:38:59.280 and,

01:39:00.640 you know,

01:39:01.460 they're saying

01:39:02.040 that she was being presented

01:39:03.940 implicitly by Blake

01:39:06.080 as her other dragon,

01:39:07.800 her threat.

01:39:08.620 But to your point

01:39:09.140 about the alleged,

01:39:09.880 like,

01:39:10.420 sexual tension

01:39:11.380 between these two,

01:39:12.780 if you look

01:39:13.200 at the full complaint,

01:39:14.000 there are texts

01:39:14.620 between them

01:39:15.340 like that go on

01:39:16.500 and on

01:39:17.080 about their connection

01:39:18.260 and how he really

01:39:19.680 likes her,

01:39:20.640 he loves his version

01:39:21.460 of her,

01:39:21.960 but he loves

01:39:22.380 the other version

01:39:22.920 of her too

01:39:23.520 at 11 o'clock at night.

01:39:25.700 And I'm telling you,

01:39:26.540 it's felt flirty to me.

01:39:27.840 I'm like,

01:39:28.860 I don't generally text

01:39:30.220 with other men,

01:39:31.220 even men I work with

01:39:32.160 at 11 o'clock at night

01:39:33.140 unless there's breaking news.

01:39:34.520 It's my executive producer

01:39:35.560 and I'm like,

01:39:36.060 I need to get on a plane.

01:39:37.360 Right.

01:39:37.800 And it's not like

01:39:38.860 how I love this version

01:39:39.960 of you.

01:39:42.980 You're really speaking

01:39:44.100 to me today.

01:39:45.460 Like,

01:39:45.880 that is weird.

01:39:46.960 He's laughing

01:39:47.380 in my ear right now.

01:39:49.060 So,

01:39:49.880 you know,

01:39:50.420 I,

01:39:50.980 there could be

01:39:51.520 a situation

01:39:52.080 where that's what upset

01:39:53.300 Ryan Reynolds so much.

01:39:55.080 Oh,

01:39:55.320 that's,

01:39:55.660 that's a great,

01:39:56.620 yep,

01:39:57.020 yep,

01:39:57.300 because what they,

01:39:57.880 what they're saying

01:39:58.360 is you fat shamed 0.97

01:39:59.620 my wife. 0.98

01:40:00.320 And that's another thing

01:40:01.080 they allege

01:40:01.420 in the Brian Friedman lawsuit

01:40:02.340 that that's what they put out

01:40:04.560 that he fat shamed her

01:40:05.440 because he allegedly

01:40:06.040 went to her trainer

01:40:06.780 to ask how much she weighed

01:40:08.320 because he had to lift her

01:40:09.520 in a scene.

01:40:10.020 Yes,

01:40:10.520 and they write about

01:40:11.540 how he's got this

01:40:12.380 debilitating disc condition

01:40:14.460 for which he was hospitalized

01:40:16.000 when the movie wrapped.

01:40:17.200 It's not made up,

01:40:18.080 it's real.

01:40:18.820 And he did need to know

01:40:20.200 how much he was going

01:40:20.940 to have to weigh.

01:40:21.780 She lied and said

01:40:23.000 that there was no scene

01:40:24.140 like that.

01:40:24.640 And then they allege here

01:40:25.480 that's because she had it cut. 0.88

01:40:27.840 Amazing.

01:40:28.460 There's just so much more

01:40:29.280 to this story

01:40:29.700 and the media's already

01:40:30.520 like self-flagellating.

01:40:31.960 Oh,

01:40:32.160 we were too mean to Blake.

01:40:34.140 She didn't deserve 0.81

01:40:35.220 the few negative things

01:40:36.680 that were said about her.

01:40:37.980 She's been bullied

01:40:38.840 and harassed.

01:40:39.820 This is also because

01:40:40.940 like they have all the power

01:40:42.200 of this guy.

01:40:42.800 It was his first movie.

01:40:44.080 He was on like one show

01:40:45.360 before this.

01:40:46.280 He bought the rights

01:40:47.280 to this mega selling book

01:40:48.960 and has,

01:40:50.080 I believe,

01:40:50.440 the rights to the sequel.

01:40:51.340 And I think that's something

01:40:52.220 else they're fighting over.

01:40:53.360 Yes.

01:40:53.720 Because the studio

01:40:54.420 definitely wants a sequel

01:40:55.640 because this movie

01:40:56.440 did really well.

01:40:57.860 So,

01:40:58.820 I mean,

01:40:59.220 first we're going to get

01:40:59.900 the reality version

01:41:00.780 of this playing out.

01:41:02.060 suit and I can't wait.

01:41:04.500 I can't wait for the suit

01:41:05.500 into oblivion.

01:41:06.260 You're definitely not going

01:41:06.880 to see the two of them

01:41:07.540 starring in a sequel.

01:41:09.040 Maureen,

01:41:10.020 you're the best.

01:41:11.240 You're the best.

01:41:11.920 Such a pleasure.

01:41:12.820 Isn't she great,

01:41:13.520 you guys?

01:41:13.960 All right,

01:41:14.140 we're back on Monday

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01:41:20.180 What a day for America. 0.82

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The Megyn Kelly Show - January 17, 2025

New Details About Biden Coup, CNN Loses Millions in Defamation Case, and Obama Drama, with Maureen Callahan ｜ Ep. 985

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