The Megyn Kelly Show - New Details About Missing Epstein Evidence, What to Expect in Midterm Elections： AM Update 4⧸6

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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly. It's Monday, April 6th, 2026, and this is your AM

00:00:38.320 Update. These would appear to be incriminating photos and videos, some pretty ugly stuff that

00:00:45.140 could have gotten Epstein a lot tougher sentence. After years of mystery, new Epstein testimony and

00:00:51.180 documents revealing what happened to key evidence that vanished from his Palm Beach home before

00:00:57.160 investigators arrived. Right now, the environment politically for Republicans is not good.

00:01:02.220 As the war in Iran stretches on and gas prices climb here at home, President Trump's approval

00:01:07.300 reading takes a hit, and new polling raises fresh questions about what it could mean for

00:01:12.440 control of Congress. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.

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00:02:42.740 Newly released testimony from the House Oversight Committee investigation

00:02:46.220 into the handling of the Jeffrey Epstein case shedding light on several long-standing mysteries

00:02:52.240 involving property tied to Epstein that disappeared before investigators could secure it.

00:02:58.400 The first dating back more than a decade ago to Epstein's Palm Beach home.

00:03:03.400 In 2005, as Epstein first came under scrutiny for his relationships with girls suspected to be underage,

00:03:11.040 local authorities searching his house for computers believed to contain evidence of his crimes,

00:03:16.760 including home surveillance footage, but arriving to find key items had already been removed.

00:03:23.260 And now we know who took them. According to documents released by the DOJ in February,

00:03:29.080 a 2005 email from a private investigator working for Epstein outlined items in his possession

00:03:36.540 that had been removed from the Palm Beach home prior to law enforcement's execution of the search

00:03:42.440 warrant. The inventory including computers, multiple phone directories, DVDs, VHS tapes,

00:03:49.140 and sexually explicit materials, including nude photographs of unidentified females and other

00:03:55.420 pornographic content. Federal investigators, too, later attempted to recover the missing evidence,

00:04:01.720 even sending a subpoena to that private investigator, but those efforts abandoned

00:04:06.480 in 2008 when Epstein received a sweetheart plea deal. After the plea, a follow-up email in 2009

00:04:14.180 showing the investigator asking Epstein's lawyers what to do with the items after the case had

00:04:19.520 concluded. These emails raising new questions about whether Epstein may have had advance

00:04:24.860 warning of the police search back in 2005. Late last month, the Oversight Committee releasing

00:04:30.680 testimony from Epstein's longtime attorney, Darren Indyke, as first reported by Business

00:04:36.600 Insider, lawmakers pressing Indyke on two key questions, whether Epstein had been tipped off

00:04:42.400 about the impending search in October 2005 and what Indyke knew about the missing hard drives.

00:04:49.860 And during our first hour, I asked you if you had if you had any knowledge that anyone would

00:04:58.180 tipped off Mr. Epstein to the October 20th search warrant

00:05:02.020 in Palm Beach? I believe that you testified no.

00:05:05.780 Is that right? That's correct. Did you subsequently learn

00:05:10.040 that Mr. Epstein was tipped off to the search warrant?

00:05:14.500 No. So during the course of

00:05:18.020 after Epstein's conviction

00:05:22.280 after he

00:05:24.340 And after he served jail time through conversations with defense counsel, I became aware that there were computer hard drives in the possession of private investigators.

00:05:36.680 Not having done them, not having been participated in that in any way, I don't know when they were removed, when they came in their possession, if they were removed.

00:05:47.060 I just don't know how they came into possession, but I knew of the existence of hard drives.

00:05:52.560 So the lawyer claims he had no knowledge of Epstein being tipped off to the search,

00:05:57.160 but somehow Epstein's private investigator wound up with the loot,

00:06:01.580 and now no one knows where it all is.

00:06:04.880 Democrats on the Oversight Committee now want to talk to the private investigators involved,

00:06:09.780 requesting interviews to determine what was removed,

00:06:12.780 where it was stored, and whether it still exists.

00:06:16.660 Good idea.

00:06:17.720 Their deadline for responses set for April 9th.

00:06:20.720 We spoke with MK True Crime contributor and former Florida state attorney for Palm Beach

00:06:25.500 County, Dave Ehrenberg, who says this part of the story raises a major red flag.

00:06:31.060 Who tipped off Epstein that police were going to raid his place back in 2005, just hours

00:06:38.360 before they arrived?

00:06:39.240 He got a tip and three investigators paid by Epstein removed his computers and those

00:06:46.040 hard drives went missing as well until apparently now.

00:06:50.220 Ehrenberg weighing in on why those materials may have been removed but not destroyed.

00:06:55.140 Now, I suspect you had a lot of really disgusting images on these hard drives, which is why

00:07:01.000 they were removed because they would have been incriminating against Epstein.

00:07:04.460 They were just kept in a storage facility, and I think Epstein wanted access to them.

00:07:09.960 He apparently made copies of them.

00:07:12.460 And so these would appear to be incriminating photos and videos, some pretty ugly stuff

00:07:19.300 that could have gotten Epstein a lot tougher sentence.

00:07:22.980 But because investigators did not recover them,

00:07:26.160 then Epstein got off pretty easily.

00:07:29.280 As for whether these materials could still have legal consequences

00:07:32.080 or are simply relevant to understanding the full scope of the Epstein case,

00:07:36.760 we asked Ehrenberg.

00:07:38.160 We don't know if it would lead to criminal charges.

00:07:40.700 Is there evidence of co-conspirators?

00:07:42.340 But even if there was, it's hard because this happened years ago.

00:07:48.360 And you need to be able to identify who the perpetrators are, other than Epstein, and you need to find the victims. So if there is incriminating video on it involving other men, then that would be evidence that could lead to criminal charges. Otherwise, it's important for us to be able to have full transparency, to know what was going on and who were parts of it.

00:08:15.100 And yet another longtime Epstein mystery now has been solved. This one relates to his New York

00:08:21.620 City mansion. 11 years after Epstein's infamous plea deal, he was arrested again in July 2019,

00:08:29.620 accused of sex trafficking multiple women. The day of the arrest, FBI agents breaking down the

00:08:35.360 front door of Epstein's 5,000-square-foot Manhattan townhouse, at one point forcing

00:08:40.960 open a safe with a chainsaw, discovering cash, passports bearing Epstein's photo under different

00:08:46.720 names, dozens of loose diamonds, and multiple hard drives and CDs. Lacking a warrant to seize

00:08:53.860 those items, agents leaving them behind, unguarded, and stacked in a pile on the floor with the intent

00:08:59.980 to return. Five days later, the FBI came back with a warrant. Surprise, surprise, the contents

00:09:06.360 of the safe were gone. The disappearance fueling years of speculation about how potential evidence

00:09:12.780 in a federal investigation could be removed without the authorities knowing, the presumption

00:09:17.880 being all along that the FBI never recovered the loot. Now, congressional testimony from

00:09:23.740 Epstein's longtime accountant, Richard Kahn, helping solve that piece of the story, telling

00:09:29.440 the oversight committee what happened to the contents of the safe left by FBI agents on the

00:09:34.560 floor of Epstein's home. I received a call from Merwin, who's the property manager, telling me

00:09:39.740 that I packed up two bags of Epstein's belongings or things that were safe, and I left them with

00:09:47.420 your doorman in New York City. I just wanted to let you know. I said to him, I'm not home. I'll

00:09:52.820 be home in three or four days, and at that time, I'll bring it up to my apartment. When I arrived

00:09:58.400 home three or four days later, I arrived in my apartment. I brought the two bags up. I never

00:10:03.980 touched them. I never opened them. I believe a day or two later, I got a call from Merwin that

00:10:11.220 the FBI was at the house again, looking to collect things that they didn't take from their first

00:10:17.340 visit. So I went home, I grabbed the two bags, I brought them to the residence. And I believe at

00:10:24.580 that point in time, the FBI gave me a receipt for the two bags. Investigators later indicating the

00:10:31.260 contents appeared consistent with what had originally been found inside the safe. So the

00:10:36.480 items inside the safe were only missing for a short time, it turns out, and then allegedly wound

00:10:42.720 up back in the hands of the FBI all this time. Dave Ehrenberg tells us even though leaving the

00:10:49.520 materials behind might seem questionable, the decision was likely driven by legal constraints.

00:10:55.740 That's actually pretty typical police work. If you don't have a warrant, you don't want to

00:11:00.920 abuse your power because it can come back to bite you. So I don't take that as a real problem,

00:11:06.060 especially because the FBI got the material anyways. There's no evidence that the material

00:11:11.200 was tampered with. There were a lot of mistakes made in this case. And I think a lot of law

00:11:17.980 enforcement decisions have come under scrutiny and we're second guessing them. But ultimately,

00:11:23.680 when it comes to leaving the diamonds behind, that was not an oversight. That was a deliberate

00:11:29.020 legal decision because they didn't have a warrant. And so as a result, it's not that unusual to just

00:11:38.220 leave it behind and not touch it and just come back for it once you get the warrant. I guess

00:11:42.840 FBI at the time probably thought that the people who were in charge of the apartment, the lawyer,

00:11:50.340 members of the estate, would watch over it. And if they did tamper with anything, they would be

00:11:57.540 charged with a serious crime themselves.

00:11:59.680 Ehrenberg, originally a skeptic that the release of these files would amount to anything meaningful,

00:12:04.440 now says the documents proved him wrong.

00:12:06.980 I will stand corrected that there have been lots of juicy things that came out.

00:12:10.640 I think I underestimated the amount of material that had yet to be disclosed.

00:12:17.840 And it is juicy and it is worth talking about.

00:12:21.840 So I think that the Epstein Files Transparency Act was a good thing.

00:12:26.900 I'm glad it passed, but it's still full of loopholes that have allowed the administration to withhold millions of documents.

00:12:34.100 And that's something that Congress may want to address.

00:12:36.860 Congress wants to blame the Trump administration, but it was Congress in drafting the legislation that kept these loopholes in and didn't put an enforcement mechanism in the law.

00:12:48.940 So there is no easy way to enforce a law.

00:12:51.160 they would need a new law, or at least they'll have to go to court now and stand in line 0.92

00:12:55.620 to get a judge to do something about it. 0.98

00:12:58.180 Last Thursday, Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche telling Fox News,

00:13:02.760 no more files will be forthcoming, that, quote,

00:13:05.740 all of the files we're going to get now have been released.

00:13:10.060 The Epstein files has been a saga that's lasted for the entire, for the past year.

00:13:14.620 And what happened when the president signed the Transparency Act is the Department of Justice

00:13:19.120 has now released all the files with respect to the Epstein saga.

00:13:24.200 And the Attorney General Bondi and I appeared in front of Congress voluntarily a couple weeks ago

00:13:28.760 to answer any questions they had.

00:13:30.640 We have made every single congressman, senator available to come and see any document redacted,

00:13:36.100 unredacted that they want.

00:13:37.740 And so I think that to the extent that the Epstein files was a part of the past year of this Justice Department,

00:13:43.560 it should not be a part of anything going forward.

00:13:46.020 Coming up, as the war in Iran stretches on and gas prices rise, President Trump's numbers are

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00:15:02.780 The war in Iran now entering its sixth week, with what the president says is two or three

00:15:08.440 more weeks to go.

00:15:09.520 In the last six weeks, support for this military action on the decline. A CNN poll last week

00:15:15.280 showing just 33% of US adults approve of the war in Iran, compared to 67% who do not. Those results

00:15:23.000 repeated in multiple other polls. At home, the economic impact of Operation Epic Fury also

00:15:29.420 becoming a glaring issue for President Trump. The national average for gas topping $4 a gallon

00:15:34.960 last week, the highest level since 2022 and up more than a dollar from a month ago. As costs

00:15:41.940 rise, so does the political pressure. On the economy, President Trump now deep underwater.

00:15:47.920 According to the RealClearPolitics average of polls, just 37.2% approve of Mr. Trump's handling

00:15:54.260 of the economy versus 60.1% who disapprove, a nearly 23-point spread. CNN's chief data analyst,

00:16:02.220 Harry Enten, putting those numbers into historical perspective.

00:16:05.800 How about the economy? You know, you mentioned it was the worst in terms of the approval rating

00:16:10.060 for Donald Trump in any poll we've conducted. How about highest disapprovals on the economy

00:16:13.960 about this point in term two? Look at this. These are the worst. In our poll, 69 percent

00:16:18.920 disapproved of Donald Trump on the economy. For George W. Bush, it was 57 percent in terms of

00:16:24.180 the average. Barack Obama, 56 percent. Donald Trump is crushing him on a metric. You don't

00:16:29.180 want to be crushing anybody on which is disapproval ratings on the economy. The drop in approval

00:16:33.600 coming as candidates ramp up for high stakes midterms, Republicans trying to hold on to narrow

00:16:38.540 majorities, Democrats looking to flip control with the fate of President Trump's agenda hanging in

00:16:43.780 the balance. We spoke to MK Media star and next up host Mark Halperin, who tells us the numbers

00:16:49.580 point to a tough road for Republicans, but not a guaranteed win for the Democrats. Right now,

00:16:55.360 the environment politically for Republicans is not good. That's expected when you control the

00:16:59.420 White House. But Democrats aren't particularly popular either. So this is going to be an unusual

00:17:04.140 midterm that should benefit the Democrats. They should do well, but it's not a sure thing.

00:17:09.740 Halpern says for Republicans, what matters now is how they focus their message.

00:17:14.180 The president's approval rating is typically the one piece of polling data that political

00:17:17.580 professionals look at most closely. President Trump's approval rating ain't great, but Democrats

00:17:22.560 aren't doing particularly well in the polls either. And Republicans' goal is to make this

00:17:26.240 not a referendum on Donald Trump, but a choice between the Republicans and the Democrats.

00:17:31.520 Despite the negative polling, Halpern says the political impact of the Iran conflict

00:17:35.700 remains uncertain.

00:17:37.340 Right now, Iran is just a huge wild card in this election. I think there's a lot of analysis about

00:17:42.140 whether it will help or hurt Republicans. I think it is totally tied to how the war ends up. If the

00:17:47.480 war is considered a success by the American people, it will help Republicans. If it's considered

00:17:51.920 of that, it'll help the Democrats. Even as gas prices climb, Halpern says Republicans

00:17:58.040 still have an opening on economic messaging. If gas prices stay high, it is going to be a

00:18:03.520 talking point for Democrats probably in every race in the country. Republicans want to focus

00:18:07.820 on other economic issues. There are some positive signs in the economy, and Republicans can point to

00:18:13.520 lower taxes and the tax cuts that people are going to feel coming up in April around tax time.

00:18:19.620 On the Senate map, Halpern says control will come down to a handful of races,

00:18:23.620 but Republicans still have the edge.

00:18:26.380 There's about nine Senate races that are going to decide control of the Senate. 0.98

00:18:29.860 There's been talk that Democrats have a good chance of taking the majority.

00:18:33.180 They need to net four total wins.

00:18:35.720 And I think that's a taller order than a lot of people realize.

00:18:38.260 So right now, I favor the Republicans to keep the majority.

00:18:41.220 And I think it will stay that way until we get clarity in the fall.

00:18:44.980 In the House, a different story.

00:18:46.760 one where Democrats may have a much clearer path to power.

00:18:50.480 This could shape up to be a very good year for Democrats in the House.

00:18:53.600 They don't need to win many seats in order to take the majority

00:18:55.800 because of the narrow edge that Republicans have now.

00:18:58.880 But I think this is a year when money will matter a lot.

00:19:02.020 Right now, Republicans have more of it,

00:19:03.880 and there aren't very many seats in play because of redistricting

00:19:06.700 and because of the natural sorting that's taken place between red and blue America.

00:19:10.360 So even if Republicans are wiped out,

00:19:12.700 Chances are they won't lose on the order of the kind of wipe out number of seats we've seen in the past.

00:19:18.500 So where does it all land? Halprin gives us his current forecast for November.

00:19:22.900 Right now, I forecast Republicans to narrowly keep the Senate, maybe even pick up seats in the Senate, given how things are shaping up, and Democrats to take control of the House, maybe narrowly, maybe by a lot.

00:19:33.820 Republicans are really more focused now on keeping the Senate because that is a possibility, dwindling possibility, maybe to the vanishing point of keeping control of the House.

00:19:42.700 and that'll do it for your am update i'm megan kelly join me back here for the mk show

00:19:49.840 live on sirius xm's the megan kelly channel 111 at noon east

00:19:53.340 on youtube.com slash megan kelly and on all podcast platforms

The Megyn Kelly Show - April 06, 2026

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