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00:00:36.260 hey everyone i'm megan kelly welcome to the megan kelly show just back now from washington dc

00:00:47.060 literally just an hour ago got back where i interviewed director of national intelligence

00:00:51.560 tulsi gabbard late yesterday you can find that interview on youtube.com slash megan kelly and

00:00:57.120 our podcast feeds right now they posted this morning and there's a lot to unpack from that

00:01:02.140 interview she made a ton of news plus there are reports today broken initially by our pal and

00:01:08.900 now part of the mk podcast media network mark halperin that national security advisor mike

00:01:14.480 walls is out that he's being forced out of the trump administration we will break it down for you

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00:03:31.380 don't call it a ride we're gonna get to all this now with dave portnoy very far is how is the

00:03:44.400 answer yeah very far clearly very far to to the moon and back some might say where was that and

00:03:50.040 like obviously zero gravity chamber of some sort you'll have to tune in tomorrow i can't talk to

00:03:54.200 you unless you've been have you been to where the moon just to the special places i've been no i

00:03:58.920 haven't been there i haven't been any of those then we can't discuss it i'm gonna have to go back to

00:04:02.560 gail fine she's the only one who understands me okay fair okay there's so much happening right now

00:04:06.780 let's talk with about mike walsh because while the average audience member might not think dave

00:04:12.600 portnoy is the perfect person to discuss this news with they are wrong because you actually called for

00:04:19.020 his ouster i said somebody had to go yes yeah after the signal gate controversy broke well signal

00:04:25.240 gate was crazy to me still crazy to me then there was follow-up that there was more to single

00:04:29.580 gate with hesketh right hex hex right with like telling his uh wife and somebody was someone else

00:04:38.840 his personal lawyer and reportedly many others yeah so i mean to me that's nuts the signal stuff is nuts

00:04:44.060 i don't know if that's why he's getting pushed out seems pretty late like in the game and like

00:04:48.360 signal gate to me sort of passed um but is that the point that didn't draw as much attention no i

00:04:54.980 don't think that's how true well i never know how trump thinks because here's the thing he doesn't

00:04:59.480 like giving the media a scalp right like a credit for anything yeah but it also depends on how you

00:05:04.380 look at his mind frame which i don't know anybody else will it also if he did it almost instantly it

00:05:10.120 could be viewed as aha we have we have accountability here and there's a mistake made and i rectified it

00:05:16.880 instantly so do you think i don't know do you think it that doesn't sound like trump do you think

00:05:20.840 it's directly then single gate i don't know i i i think it's probably and this is complete

00:05:26.100 speculation i do not have any inside information on this but i think it's probably he's too neo connie

00:05:31.780 and the the strong strain within maga right now is the more they call them the restrainers yeah the

00:05:38.380 ones who are not hawks they don't want us rushing into war with iran we had a long talk with tucker

00:05:44.020 carlson about this the other day not involving mike walsh but mike walsh has got a long history in the

00:05:48.580 congress which made him some people's darling and some people's foil on this front he was always

00:05:53.960 more neo connie and he's got a very important post and there was a report in the new york times about

00:05:58.440 a month ago saying tulsi jd pete hegseth and suzy wiles chief of staff for trump stopped him from

00:06:05.840 getting on board that train as it was pummeling toward war with iran on behalf of or in connection

00:06:11.560 with israel so who was on the other side who who were the administration officials saying let's do

00:06:17.280 this what netanyahu wants like back them in bombing iran or give them the bombs or we'll do the bombs

00:06:22.580 the realistic truth was we were going to have to participate very meaningfully in that bombing

00:06:27.780 campaign we would have been at war with iran so it would have been an enormous thing to do

00:06:32.900 and i i do wonder whether that played some role yeah so like 99 of that to be frank to went right over

00:06:38.860 my head like i may have like been glazed over the thing i know about signal yeah like i didn't even

00:06:45.260 know like i knew he was but the signal gate's the one that caught my attention um again i think it's

00:06:50.700 a delayed response so i i your scenario of what you just laid out could make more sense i'm probably

00:06:56.020 the wrong guy to be like yeah all right that's it it's possible the signal gate to me was just you

00:07:00.300 can't you can't have people do using signal and basically sending you know war plans to reporters

00:07:06.080 or their wife or any of that so to me that was a fireable offense so the signal gate it may have

00:07:12.660 played a role we don't know i mean here's what mark halperin said when did this happen by the way

00:07:17.380 just now it's happening right now like as i came in yeah you didn't miss it um so mark halperin is

00:07:22.700 part of our new mk media network which i'd love to ask you about because you run a very successful

00:07:26.500 media network um and he had his first show on tuesday his second show is today he also does a show

00:07:33.280 on youtube called two-way and he broke this news earlier today here's some of it with some more

00:07:38.220 context i believe sought seven three different people have confirmed that the plan now by the

00:07:45.700 white house is to remove the national security advisor mike waltz who was on fox news this morning

00:07:49.860 just not that long ago and his deputy alex wong and and much of the member current staff team at the

00:07:54.780 national security council because of unhappiness throughout the national security establishment

00:08:00.620 of how they're doing this was around before signal gate it was widely reported that single gate

00:08:05.500 ironically may have saved waltz's job as i understand it from my sources a general belief

00:08:10.000 that it's not being run efficiently in an organized way it may happen as early as today

00:08:14.720 it may not happen ever because it's donald trump but the plan is for it to happen soon maybe maybe

00:08:20.660 this weekend so very interesting he's saying they wanted to dump him before signal gate but trump didn't

00:08:27.400 dump him after that because he didn't want to look like he was being reactive to the nasty well he'd be

00:08:31.220 reactive i feel like if he's not enough who knows i mean i could see this still not happening i feel

00:08:35.360 like i see reports of things happening that never does and then they'll jump on and be like shame

00:08:39.820 on you media for reporting this yes so who knows i looked i just looked at x it's the number one

00:08:44.520 thing um yeah shocking i guess but i'll believe it when i see tim waltz number one thing on tim well

00:08:50.680 we're definitely getting mike waltz has left the chat is is he your is he your man speaker who tim

00:08:56.500 waltz do i no he is not he's what do you mean what do you mean my man speak you know how he said he

00:09:00.440 came out yesterday and said he was the man that kamala selected to speak to guys like you white

00:09:05.780 men well that's crazy i didn't see that but no he he failed miserably in that in that realm you

00:09:12.180 didn't connect with him in that way nobody connected with him nobody did here's what he said let's

00:09:16.220 watch it though we'll go from mike waltz he's still talking to tim waltz here let's watch

00:09:21.080 i was on the ticket um i would argue because we did a lot of amazing progressive things in

00:09:27.440 minnesota to improve people's lives but i also was on the ticket quite honestly you know because i

00:09:32.740 i could code talk to white guys watching football fixing their truck doing that that i could put them

00:09:38.880 at ease i was the permission structure to say look you can do this and vote for this and and you look

00:09:44.380 across those swing states with the exception of minnesota um we didn't get enough of those votes

00:09:49.820 but you could be giving them permission on tv every day you could have been messaging that way

00:09:53.780 and that isn't necessarily how it shook out well yes but i also said i understand myself i i said i

00:09:59.040 think i'd give you pretty good stuff but i'll also give you 10 problematic and so somebody's got to make

00:10:04.740 the decision here to handle some of this stuff and to make it and those are just decisions that were made

00:10:09.640 boy that's delusional i mean that's wildly delusional i even thought that i mean i knew he had the the

00:10:16.180 football thing but he doesn't speak to a normal guy he doesn't act like a normal guy his mannerisms

00:10:20.800 weren't like everyday guy there was no part of him that connected to what a normal guy is talking

00:10:27.720 about or interested in and by the way normal guys can see through that pretty quickly when you're

00:10:32.040 trying to play the normal guy yeah i mean i i remember hearing that he was like a football coach

00:10:38.000 but even that was a strange coach the the story behind it so it didn't really work out and and that

00:10:43.460 that anybody by the way with a brain could have screened him for five seconds been like this is the guy

00:10:49.320 that i don't know who they have in the party by the way that would have done that but you could

00:10:53.280 have screened him and anybody could have said that right away but that is one of the problem with the

00:10:58.260 democrats they're going to like the peep buddha judges of the world to say is this a man that

00:11:03.180 regular american men can relate to and he's like yes that's our guy you're trying to think who on the

00:11:08.260 democratic side i would be like yeah that that that's the guy that resonates i mean you could be

00:11:14.360 you could run it by a man like james carvel he's got the ability to say yeah that that's not going

00:11:20.720 to resonate with middle america massachusetts governor baker he was he was a pretty normal

00:11:25.320 guy not only went to the ncaa but i would say he he was a normal speak to guy so you don't think

00:11:31.320 the jazz hands is like jazz hands is not the thing i mean he had a lot of things go he was one of the

00:11:35.620 worst candidates the whole ticket was bad yeah um that's why they lost but yeah that that is and

00:11:41.140 that's not even a political thing that's just if you if you asked if you just pulled a group of guys

00:11:47.080 out of a bar and were like is this are you going to be friends with that guy most would probably be

00:11:51.260 like no we're not so and that is again has nothing to do with politics it's just the vibe he gave off

00:11:56.460 yeah well on top of all that what does it say about the democratic party that they thought the guy who

00:12:02.060 would speak to white guys in america is the guy who mandated tampons in boys rooms throughout

00:12:09.220 minnesota they're off the democratic party is is lost so um i don't know it's interesting because

00:12:17.040 i never i didn't even know that they were trying to speak to people like i guess me or or our crowd

00:12:24.140 um if you want to say that's like who trump spoke with uh i didn't even know they were attempting to

00:12:29.320 do that during the election that didn't seem like something they were interested in so i didn't know

00:12:33.240 he that was why he was brought on to do that well don't remember he put on the camo hat

00:12:37.180 and he did some video where he was gaming and apparently he stunk at it but he went out with

00:12:42.380 a gun and was going to go hunting and it was very obvious to all second amendment people he was

00:12:46.300 not familiar with a gun he couldn't load it yeah i remember the one when i thought it was come

00:12:51.920 like that asked her what kind of gun she had and she didn't answer correctly but that's very politics

00:12:56.780 101 that's i mean all the way back the mayor of boston was called like sammy susa and all the wrong

00:13:02.800 names even i know that one yeah they pretend to play a character that they're not which i don't

00:13:07.740 know where who gives them that intel i think people would much more respect if you don't pretend to be

00:13:12.640 something you are not all right but but that's politics so let's say they come to dave portnoy

00:13:16.620 next time around and they're like how do we reach regular guys and convince them to vote dem

00:13:24.560 i mean you you can't demonize them i would say like they're and it's they've been doing it for

00:13:33.660 a long time but if you're saying men and when people are asking me that i think they generally

00:13:40.020 are talking like white middle class people working in financial districts uh there's a shame that that

00:13:49.160 comes across of saying you weren't a frat and by the way not all frats are good but wanting to make

00:13:53.200 money want to have a good job want to spend money be rich all that stuff is not necessarily bad i think

00:13:59.320 that has been a message that comes across like yeah we should be kind of ashamed of being a white guy

00:14:05.080 that doesn't that i don't think what they fail to understand that doesn't discount that a white guy

00:14:10.860 like me or any can care about a lot of the issues that democrats care about but i'm also not really

00:14:16.820 going to apologize for being like a white guy in this country who wants to have a good job make money

00:14:22.680 go to college do all those things and that is a message that seemingly like you can't be both

00:14:28.160 um they've never like i mean biden all the way through it felt like a lot of the issues that get

00:14:35.600 blamed and problems america is always like our fault yeah and we don't want remember even when

00:14:41.160 the black vote wasn't going as strongly for kamala as the dems wanted and barack obama showed up at that

00:14:47.380 polling uh that campaign office and was like you're a bunch of sexists yeah right well and they've said

00:14:53.280 it they're deplorables and yeah like you know the there if you vote for trump there's you're a nazi

00:14:59.280 and things like that i don't know if that's exact but things no that's literally what's been said on

00:15:03.360 right so like don and then it's like well you know that's you're talking about more than half the

00:15:08.440 countries it's clearly then you should move if you truly believe that and and that's the messaging

00:15:14.780 that we've gotten from them and in somebody like me who it's i'm always in a weird box because i

00:15:21.360 don't consider myself political but i'm talking about more and more like i could easily take out

00:15:25.560 the candidates i grew up in a democratic household my father i've said a million times hates trump um

00:15:31.240 i am somebody who you would think would vote democrat but as i got older especially like running

00:15:37.140 business and doing stuff they just kept pushing me pushing me pushing me to the point this election

00:15:41.940 it wasn't like i wasn't wavering who i was going to vote for i was voting for trump um and even i would

00:15:48.300 still re-vote for trump no questions asked that's how much i hated the other ticket you um may not

00:15:54.680 want to see this but kamala harris is also back in the news and you tell me whether we dodged a bullet

00:15:59.460 with this woman where she took to the stage last night at this group that's pushing to get more

00:16:04.220 females involved in democrat politics running for office and here's how she sounded

00:16:08.800 i heard about this watch it you'll enjoy in fact please allow me friends to digress for a moment

00:16:15.560 okay it's kind of dark in here but i'm asking a show of hands who saw that video from a couple

00:16:22.000 of weeks ago the one of the elephants at the san diego zoo during the earthquake what is she laughing

00:16:29.340 yet google it well yeah this is so that scene has been on my mind everybody's asking me what you've

00:16:37.860 been thinking about these days well yeah the the hold on she's almost there

00:16:44.700 here those elephants were and as soon as they felt the earth shaking beneath their feet

00:16:53.500 they got in a circle and stood next to each other to protect the most vulnerable

00:17:02.380 think about it what a powerful metaphor the lesson is don't don't scatter

00:17:13.200 the instinct has to be to immediately find and connect with each other and to know that the

00:17:25.780 circle will be strong oh my god well yeah that was a lot more of our campaign speak in which you

00:17:32.200 said a whole lot of a lot of something but really not saying anything and also the moral superiority

00:17:38.700 which even in that comes through is another like the way they lecture in there i don't like

00:17:44.040 politicians in general like i think probably if you had a hundred politicians in a room maybe like

00:17:49.480 two are like truly in it for the right reasons um but the moral superiority when when like what they

00:17:55.480 did in the election which the way they all lied about biden is mental health for for years and then

00:18:01.340 they waited so there's no like she would never win and well she'd never won election but she would

00:18:07.580 never win a fair primary with the that to me was their biggest mistake because who knows who could

00:18:12.400 have come out of that um but it's lecturing people like they're they're angels like they're perfect they

00:18:18.440 know they know better than anybody like what's best for you and and that we're stupid because we see what

00:18:24.860 the democratic party does and that's it's just such a turnoff and say whatever you want about trump

00:18:30.220 and people may say other i i feel like he's him and like even with these tariffs and stuff like he

00:18:37.740 campaigned on tariffs yeah he was so then to be like what are you doing these tariffs and i'm like

00:18:42.660 that because i'm in the stock market it's like i want my stocks to go up but it's like he said he was

00:18:46.880 gonna do it at least so they're just if you did authentic and took the democrats and the republicans to

00:18:54.020 me it's not even close and that's part of how i end up voting republican she's so annoying in her

00:18:59.440 mannerisms with her little hands in tight and the she starts giggling at her own thought what she's

00:19:04.960 saying is not even purportedly funny there's nothing at all funny there's no joke coming

00:19:09.840 she's just giggling at her own little aside she's not a great public speaker no the only time it gets

00:19:14.760 funny is when she lands her point and you realize there's nothing there yeah and she's built it up

00:19:19.700 like this huge profundity only to let us down once again i don't even know what she's doing what she

00:19:23.960 is she running for what the governor of california we don't know she's weighing either that or

00:19:28.500 another presidential that's crazy they'd never do that i don't know i'd never say never i've been

00:19:32.580 a very good person this year it's possible lord the lord will give this to me maybe maybe well

00:19:37.320 there's aoc aren't they saying her yes i just think that like the party still loves her they have no

00:19:44.820 chance to win if she i completely agree no chance but there are some people out there oh my gosh i don't

00:19:49.100 know if i'm gonna be able to find it but there are people out there talking about her right now

00:19:52.560 like um behind the scenes an off record they don't want to put their name to it about how you

00:19:57.340 know she's really formidable like the the party really needs to hear they're they have a hankering

00:20:02.240 to hear from her hold on a second i have a here use hankering no they say here it is clamoring there

00:20:07.880 is a clamoring for her voice right now said a former harris senior advisor meanwhile i'm like is he

00:20:13.460 named pug klemhoff like don't this is clearly like her husband or somebody very close to her and they

00:20:20.320 say um because they were granted anonymity to speak candidly meaning really falsely quote no one

00:20:26.340 can better prosecute the case while inspiring a call to action than the former vice president i mean

00:20:32.840 we already we already went down that road are they just saying she didn't have enough time or something

00:20:36.880 and you can't get over the fact she knew that biden wasn't fit to be president just lied about it i

00:20:43.460 mean you can't get i don't know it would be crazy but they're already nuts to me on who they put

00:20:49.460 forward so already in crazy town yeah to do it again would be insane i mean that's the exact

00:20:54.140 opposite of what we were just discussing like how do they get you know the the typical male vote i mean

00:21:01.800 that's the opposite that's not going to do it um so i mentioned the top that i sat down with tulsi

00:21:06.560 gabbard last night and we had a bunch of discussions that were really interesting i thought and um

00:21:12.280 it's quite the quite the move going from her to me and then blonde origin i mean it's been that kind

00:21:17.980 of a week dave um but here's here's one thing i want to pick up on that we started the show off

00:21:22.460 with like this push to get us into another war with iran by these forces behind the scenes and i'm not

00:21:27.480 blaming that on mike walsh that was just speculation on my point that maybe some perceive him as on that

00:21:31.840 side but she did speak to because she's anti all that that's one of the reasons trump chose her and

00:21:37.660 i was asking her like do you feel it you feel like people pushing you towards you know all all

00:21:44.220 things military all things war and here's what she said and sought to there was a new york times

00:21:50.040 article within the past month saying you he jd vance and his chief of staff suzy wiles were

00:21:56.940 all together in urging him to not go too far on our actions against iran and president trump did not do

00:22:07.460 it he did not give net now he would the answer he wanted i know you're not going to get into the

00:22:12.220 specifics of what you advise the president but can you can you explain your view of the dangers of

00:22:18.520 barreling toward a potential conflict with iran yeah the the um the new york times article was a result

00:22:30.260 of an unfortunate um unauthorized uh and illegal leak of of a very private conversation between the

00:22:38.720 president and his advisors uh i won't get into the details but it was a very robust discussion that

00:22:45.760 really speaks to uh president trump's care and thoughtfulness as he makes uh his decisions do you

00:22:53.580 feel the push tulsi the push of this like strong neocon strain that's still within the republican party

00:22:59.860 and probably in this age these agencies that's much more hawkish on an issue including war in

00:23:08.620 the middle east which we've just done for 20 years yeah of course the pressure's there the leaks have

00:23:14.000 to end uh if the president can't have the confidence that he can sit in a room with his closest advisors

00:23:20.940 without it leaking to the public then that that is something that really undermines um uh his being

00:23:28.840 best served so she's talking about dave how they sat there she's basically confirming in a private

00:23:35.780 meeting with just the president with those officials i named with the vice president with the director of

00:23:40.920 national intelligence um with the secretary of defense and his chief of staff and what she's saying

00:23:46.920 without being explicit about it is then she believes none of them leaked but then they have to talk to

00:23:52.840 their staffs about what happened and what needs to happen and at that top top level someone's leaking

00:23:59.080 to the new york times and in saying how are they supposed to function like this you gotta start

00:24:05.040 planting fake stories yeah right you gotta do that and weed it out i mean that would drive me insane

00:24:10.200 any that would drive anybody regardless of whether it's the president united states obviously different

00:24:14.620 table stakes but any ceo any leader you can't have that yeah i like that idea yeah you gotta do that

00:24:20.380 they do that in some like what what movie did they do that in where they plant like a face a fake piece

00:24:24.360 of gossip and see who bites it narrow it down right you would narrow it down something juicy that they

00:24:29.380 just do it one with each of those departments if that's where they think it came from yeah i hope

00:24:34.540 they're watching i'm gonna make sure they see this gotta do it it's a very good idea yeah because it's

00:24:38.140 happening to tulsi it's happening to trump it's obviously happening to hegseth where like bit by bit

00:24:43.520 they're undermining the whole administration with these leaks and like or maybe he's just sending

00:24:48.440 it on his signal chat yeah right right that also opens that she just point back and be like well

00:24:54.280 you guys are idiots and you're you're texting reporters by accident she also told me that the

00:24:59.120 biden administration used signal and she said without naming them she said some of the very exact

00:25:03.620 officials who are dumping on us for being on a signal chat she was one of the ones use signal and

00:25:08.180 she has proof of it well that's the most unsurprising like comment ever i mean they could

00:25:14.620 have sent it to that same reporter in the atlantic and he wouldn't have said anything that's right but

00:25:19.220 you very much don't want to send it to somebody you know openly hates your guts yeah so yeah then

00:25:24.300 you're gonna have to live with it you're telling me it's uh they're they're being hypocrites that's

00:25:27.760 not surprising to me at all not surprising at all here she is a little bit more on these leaks

00:25:31.980 coming out of the administration me too here's thought three you've referred three people now

00:25:38.100 to doj for criminal prosecution do you think they will be prosecuted that's the goal that's the goal

00:25:45.080 and the only way we bring about accountability is uh by doing the work of of conducting these

00:25:51.720 investigations uh the department of justice and the fbi obviously have different tools that they can use

00:25:57.640 in order to um to find the truth and to to seek out that evidence so that we can actually prosecute

00:26:05.160 these people know they've been referred like are they do they still work here in some cases uh in

00:26:09.080 some cases they know in other cases they are likely not aware i mean that's kind of badass frankly

00:26:15.700 because what she's doing is she's not telling everybody that she like i know it was you fredo

00:26:20.240 you're right she's letting fredo just continue yeah try to scare him and then the next call they get

00:26:25.040 is going to be from somebody saying the doj is here the fbi is here to arrest you they did it

00:26:30.700 differently over at the department of defense where pete um or his team his investigators

00:26:35.740 investigated these leaks and then fired three guys who immediately went to the media including yours

00:26:42.400 truly to say we're not the leakers right none has been arrested we don't know whether they will

00:26:47.200 be arrested they all deny they did it i have to say as between the two this is probably the better

00:26:51.920 course because it's like they're not twisting in the wind as leakers who can speak out about it

00:26:57.720 they're in cuffs by the time we learn their names yeah i mean it can't be obviously it's a major crime

00:27:02.880 at that level to be leaking information it's also like the last thing they should be worrying like

00:27:08.260 they're running the government that's the thing to be worrying about internal leaks seems like there

00:27:12.580 should be a better use of time but you can't ignore it that's the thing that it's so undermining

00:27:17.620 all right one other point point on tulsi um where were you on like the covid lockdowns and the

00:27:22.860 overreach by fauci and all that stuff so i was very much on the side of you got to let

00:27:29.820 small businesses decide whether they want to stay open or not like we're all kind of adults here and

00:27:36.960 if you want to be open there so i hated the lockdowns um we we started a gigantic like uh fund

00:27:43.260 for companies that were shut down we raised like 50 million dollars that's right yeah we covered that

00:27:47.900 actually yeah so we were very much trying to help small businesses who were basically going out of

00:27:54.220 business through no fault of their what do you think of fauci i mean you i i see all the stuff that

00:28:02.380 says he's a criminal he should go to jail he hit it i haven't delved enough i mean i my knee-jerk

00:28:07.580 reaction on the guy when i see him is i actually find him to be believable when like he's speaking

00:28:13.400 on camera but you see all this stuff so i wouldn't convict them without any hard evidence you may be

00:28:18.000 like well i have hard evidence but i think the whole lockdown thing was handled horribly well i asked her

00:28:23.240 about it this is one of the first things we covered and i think it was probably the biggest piece of news

00:28:26.740 to come out of the interview um well let's watch the exchange and then i'll fill in the blanks here it is

00:28:31.220 we already know that eco health alliance was partnering with this wuhan lab to create

00:28:37.160 to do gain and function research that's right we just have never been able to have somebody say

00:28:41.660 and it was that exact experiment that led to this covid bug but it have have we gotten there what's the

00:28:48.360 new thing that you're digging in on we we are we are working on that with uh jay bodhacharya i mean

00:28:53.780 that would be extraordinary because just so the audience knows if that's true if it was peter dasik's

00:28:58.020 research with the wuhan so-called fat lady that causes pandemic then we did fund it then anthony

00:29:03.900 fauci helped fund the pandemic things that he denied over and over and over to senator rand paul's

00:29:10.900 questioning that's right under oath it an under oath exactly so it is is it any wonder that he sought

00:29:18.200 a preemptive pardon for anything during a certain period of time uh by president biden before he left

00:29:25.360 the office that's the director of national intelligence clearly intimating that they're

00:29:29.840 about to tie anthony fauci and this group eco health alliance that he funded yeah to the actual

00:29:37.080 covid virus yeah which is insane so then what is this a giant cover-up that or i like yes yeah so

00:29:42.980 that's that's crazy that's uh that's huge that's a link we've never been able to close we've been able

00:29:48.860 to close we funded eco health alliance they partnered with the wuhan lab they did gain of function

00:29:53.280 research on bat coronaviruses but we've never been able to make the leap to and it resulted in this

00:29:59.820 coronavirus and that's what she says she's intimating is about to come yeah it's crazy if that's it if

00:30:06.900 that's true he lied under oath repeatedly yeah and he needed that pardon i mean everybody got pardoned

00:30:13.440 pretty much by biden right like for the most part but i mean the fact that the guy running this huge

00:30:20.360 piece of nih was perjuring himself allegedly we'll find out to the point where it wasn't just a courtesy

00:30:28.680 pardon to prevent harassment like he actually may have committed felonies here it isn't huge

00:30:35.320 like my yeah it's crazy again i was very anti-lockdowns i didn't like fauci i criticized fauci

00:30:42.240 i maybe my gut reaction whenever i see the guy is he doesn't scream arch criminal to me but maybe

00:30:52.800 i'll be wrong like does he give you those vibes 100 he does yes so he's a super villain to you

00:30:57.900 yes like he's the super villain that you don't know is the super villain until the end of the movie

00:31:02.080 yeah well i mean in the middle of the movie it became obvious but yes i i hate him with the passion

00:31:07.100 of 10 000 suns i i think he's completely dishonest he didn't intend you're not saying

00:31:13.180 he intentionally launched covet you're saying i don't think you want it no research no one's

00:31:18.420 suggesting that the intel community no one's saying that it happens and then he's like oh

00:31:22.140 crap i gotta do this giant and he's happens to be the like the guy who's publicly speaking about it

00:31:28.520 so it's basically two different things he launched it created it i shouldn't say launch created

00:31:34.840 inadvertently but he's also the guy who's going to be in charge of controlling it and then you got

00:31:40.520 this he's basically running interference to keep himself from being the guy the entire time bingo

00:31:45.560 yeah it's it's it literally is a sci-fi movie and at the same time we know from his internal emails

00:31:51.680 that the house republicans got at the time well a couple years after the the covid mania that he was

00:31:57.500 actively working to smear doctors who were coming out saying this thing looks like it came from a lab

00:32:03.500 yeah we've never seen this particular virus before in nature this looks lab made and he was all over

00:32:09.640 the place like tamp that down get that out there that's fringe that's he made sure that narrative

00:32:14.440 couldn't live it would it's it's an insane full full and maybe i'm just naive and thinking like

00:32:21.380 you still trust the officials i i don't trust a lot of officials he just comes across as like a grandpa

00:32:27.760 to me you've got to spend some time with my husband doug because i am terrible at judging

00:32:33.520 character i'm always like see i feel like i'm pretty good and my husband's really good and he's

00:32:38.620 always on to people before i am but even i saw it without you was he on to yeah he yes he knew he was

00:32:44.900 bad um i don't know i think some people just have a knack for this i i'm usually like they're good what

00:32:50.000 do you mean i mean trump didn't know yeah no he was under trump yeah for the for the beginning for

00:32:54.700 the actual peak of getting along like he's he's doing a great job yep i know that was one of trump's

00:32:59.720 failures i mean a lot of republicans blame him for a vaccine that wound up hurting a lot of people too

00:33:03.940 trump stands by the vaccine but it's got some problems there's no question yeah i didn't know

00:33:09.300 that people blamed him for that i mean that the vaccine was a way to theoretically open up the

00:33:14.960 country they wouldn't open it up without that well that's what people who don't live in places like

00:33:18.700 new york don't get is like i lived in new york yeah this is going down and it's like you couldn't go

00:33:23.140 anywhere no nowhere i that's when i moved to miami like i during the cove i was in new york

00:33:27.500 moved to miami i basically stayed there you were like a hostage in your own apartment if you didn't

00:33:32.460 get the damn vaccine i regret it though i wish i had gotten one of the fake cards that was such

00:33:35.940 the obvious solution i'm like a two a goody two shoes i don't know why i didn't do it i was fake

00:33:40.360 card city shit yeah like duh well you just did it yourself or like well i i luckily i work in a media

00:33:46.040 company i i still don't know that's how afraid i am what i'm like i never had it but uh yeah i just said

00:33:51.140 we have graphics team so we just got a copy of the actual card and made fakes you know my doctor

00:33:56.140 said to me at the time i'm like what should i be worried about these mrna vaccines and he goes

00:34:00.300 would you take the mrna vaccine if it could prevent pancreatic cancer because that's a future

00:34:05.500 which was a don't be worried yeah and so i was like okay i trust my doctor you know so i did it

00:34:10.420 and i regret doing it i wasn't so much worried it's just like i don't want to do it i'll get the card i was

00:34:15.900 worried there was rumors at one point that they were going to start scanning

00:34:19.320 the barcodes in which case you would have been caught fake would have no longer worked but yeah

00:34:24.160 i was traveling and working a lot of places you you could but no one looked at it closely it's like

00:34:28.400 boop boop boop boop yeah so very easy okay on the subject of the kamala harris soundbite where she said

00:34:35.440 you've got to be like the elephants to protect the most the most vulnerable right the most vulnerable

00:34:41.100 he um the the larger context of her remarks are about illegal immigration and what's being done right

00:34:48.160 now to deport these alleged gang members what's so insane is they are not the most vulnerable we are

00:34:55.080 the most vulnerable in particular women and children who tend to be the victims of these

00:34:58.500 gang members people like lake and riley down in georgia like jocelyn nangaro 12 year old down in texas

00:35:04.820 um we've seen the names in the media those are the most vulnerable that's what trump is trying to do

00:35:09.880 to protect the innocent americans that are the prey of these people who are being deported

00:35:14.240 um and i did ask tulsi about the screening that's being done because the democrats would have you

00:35:20.140 believe it's willy-nilly right it's like you've got brown skin and the wrong tattoo you're out

00:35:25.220 and she explained that they are identifying these trend de aragua and ms 13 and even sinaloa cartel

00:35:33.620 members largely with the help of the dea which is up to its neck in gang information 501 they know who

00:35:43.280 these guys are they track them they monitor them you all it needed was for somebody to call them up

00:35:49.140 and say who are they right and where are they and figure out which ones are foreign they're not all

00:35:54.080 foreign and which ones are american and on top of that they have lengthy fbi investigations of these

00:35:59.780 people so i thought that was interesting too that it's it is not just like gee you're brown you're out

00:36:04.920 um but there was news about their most famous poster boy abrigo garcia kilmar abrigo garcia

00:36:11.940 yesterday you know the one who chris van holland had margaritas with um it turns out this guy we

00:36:16.940 knew that he had been accused of beating his wife by his wife well the second report came out of the

00:36:21.560 same more beatings in which she saw a protective order not just as previously reported in 2021 but

00:36:31.960 earlier in august of 2020 she moved for a protective order back then um the details reveal a fight they had

00:36:39.180 with this woman his wife alleging that he took her phone demanded her car keys before flying

00:36:44.660 into a rage she went upstairs to cook breakfast for the kids but he shut off the stove locked the

00:36:49.340 children in their bedroom they were crying she got her phone from the car called 911 he locked her out

00:36:53.940 of the house he smashed her phone she checked the boxes for acts of abuse including kicking slapping

00:36:58.960 shoving mental injury of a child detaining against one's will um she could hear the babies crying

00:37:04.660 uh as he locked them in and he was after her me and my kids are afraid now he kicked me he pushed me

00:37:09.980 he slapped me in the face he threatened me i have photos of all the bruises left in my body police came

00:37:15.160 he acted violent with them broke my phone in front of them i have a recording he told my ex-mother-in-law

00:37:19.720 that even if he kills me no one can do anything to him in march of 2020 we now find out she said he

00:37:25.940 pushed me against the wall he broke a phone to tv and damaged the walls november of 19 he grabbed me by

00:37:30.440 the hair in the car december of 19 he grabbed me by the hair in the car he dragged me out of the car

00:37:34.380 leaving me in the street and then she rescinded the motion for the protective order as virtually all

00:37:40.440 domestic violence abuse victims do and on top of that there's another document from 2018 where her

00:37:47.680 ex so this is abrego garcia's wife now but in 2018 his girlfriend yep she had an ex-husband his name

00:37:54.540 is edwin trejo ramos he's currently incarcerated in maryland this is all very nice crowd

00:37:59.400 but he at the time saw an emergency court hearing to get custody of his children with this woman

00:38:05.520 saying um she tried to kill herself she left the kids with an 11 year old to take care of them

00:38:11.460 and i'm afraid of my kids lives being in danger because quote she is dating a gang member who was

00:38:18.060 at that time we understand abrego garcia so this is the poster boy the most vulnerable kamala harris might

00:38:24.920 say yeah so in this case in particular to me in a weird way crystallizes some of like what i go

00:38:33.040 through with like the politics because i actually get to a degree the democrat now not him and this is

00:38:41.040 where i go on this like for the democrats and the guy from maryland to to fly down and meet with him

00:38:45.640 and then make this guy the poster child which i think most intelligent people can be like this is a

00:38:51.940 bad guy he's not a citizen i've no problem i want him out yeah that that that is what we want out of

00:38:57.600 this country it doesn't matter the color of your skin if you're not an american citizen and you have

00:39:02.600 this rap in this track record and you've been deported yeah like he had an order of removal they

00:39:07.340 just said just not to el salvador now so i agree with all that so it to me when i saw the maryland guy

00:39:13.860 going to say i'm like why why is this guy the guy you're gonna take a stand for and fight for

00:39:19.740 because we don't like he's a bad guy but at the same time i can all that research i can understand

00:39:27.920 it even with something like this if you hit a thou you gotta hit you gotta bat a thousand if you're

00:39:34.980 gonna pick somebody and deport them and if you just pick the wrong guy once with no due process

00:39:42.900 nothing that's a major issue like you append somebody i don't even care you say they're an illegal

00:39:49.160 but they're like a great person and they're actually contributing to me just picking them up

00:39:54.200 getting rid of them that i'd have a problem with that so but you you want them to have a hearing

00:39:58.700 something due process so where is that the fact like they're i'm not sympathizing with democrats or

00:40:05.540 the guy from maryland because you're using the poster child of what trump ran on and we want him out

00:40:10.520 and he got a hearing yes he got a hearing when we deported him the first time but when you're doing

00:40:15.260 it mass after you just can't ever make a mistake so i understand that logic a little bit just not

00:40:22.340 with this guy no you're reflecting the view of most americans according to the latest polls where they

00:40:27.120 are in favor of trump's plan but they do want to see some due process and it's hard and how do you do

00:40:30.880 that with so many people and without so not that one of the things about politics it's not always

00:40:37.620 the easiest thing to come up with like an answer because you got to run a country and it's backed up so

00:40:42.640 what would happen but i do it the democrats constantly like okay this is an issue i sort of

00:40:49.740 the logic behind it but you're not being sincere when this is your poster child because

00:40:55.800 take out politics there's nobody you see this story a lot all right you can do this you can go meet with

00:41:02.720 do you want him to be your next door neighbor like do you want him to be your next door neighbor or do

00:41:06.820 you want him out of the country if that was it you're either living next door or he's deported

00:41:10.540 everybody do you want him on the trail when your 18 year old daughter goes for a run by herself

00:41:15.400 exactly and that is not that's based on his rap sheet nothing more in the gang stuff so

00:41:20.840 that's where they lose me because it's the it find me a way to make sure we can get 100 but that guy is

00:41:27.400 100 based on the on on the the rap sheet and why this is where they put their flag in the in the mud

00:41:35.200 when the only dispute about this guy is the fact that he technically wasn't supposed to be deported

00:41:40.260 to el salvador but he was ruled deportable yeah the only reason he wasn't deported is because we were

00:41:45.460 lame we didn't have the resources and we didn't do it which is the truth for 20 million illegals the

00:41:50.900 only controversial piece about this guy is that his order of removal said just not to el salvador

00:41:56.200 because he's claiming he'll get killed by gangs there that's it that's what they've thrown their

00:41:59.800 lot behind i do want to get to the larger issue though you're you're right over the target how

00:42:04.740 americans are struggling with well what what is required because we know there was no due process

00:42:09.480 when they came into the country for us right when it comes to our rights to be safe and not have to

00:42:14.520 put them on the public dole and pay for their lives and their their health care and all this

00:42:17.900 however here's the thing they don't get the same due process as an american citizen would before we took

00:42:24.780 away their liberty in any way whether it's for trying to deport them for some reason or putting

00:42:30.440 them through the criminal justice system and what appears to be true in the in the immigration context

00:42:35.520 what is true is it's a much lower level of quote due process that they're entitled to and what most

00:42:42.980 people don't know including terry moran who was one of the lead anchors over at abc and i'm going to

00:42:47.420 show you the sod the soundbite of him and trump is that in many cases no due process is okay none

00:42:55.880 it's under this thing called expedited removal right which all presidents have used trump expanded

00:43:02.280 expedited removal and you don't get any hearing under it it was used even under biden to say

00:43:07.460 at the border okay if there's if you show up um we can just turn you around we don't have to give

00:43:13.260 you hearing yeah and the only reason the only way you get a hearing is if you say no no i'm an

00:43:16.760 asylum seeker right and that's true under trump too but let me just show you terry moran because

00:43:21.060 who clearly has waded in to legal matters that he does is not qualified to speak on because he tried

00:43:28.080 understanding what i just explained to be the law watch him try to pin down trump and trump i'm telling

00:43:33.100 you trump is a clever mofo just when you think he's like focused on like the ufc and like his polls

00:43:40.940 he knows the nuances even of laws like this watch where he dodges on this attempt to pin him down

00:43:48.700 he knows about expedited removal he knows about the lower standard on due process and he doesn't

00:43:53.900 allow terry moran one inch it's sought nine do you acknowledge that under our law every single person

00:44:02.680 who gets deported gets a hearing first to make their case well are we talking about people that are

00:44:09.260 citizens of our country or not no you're deporting citizens at this point well let me ask you did

00:44:14.120 they get hearings when by when biden allowed 21 million because i think the number is 21 20 million

00:44:20.000 people to flow into our country but did we give them a hearing when they came in well the law requires

00:44:26.400 that every single person who is going to be deported gets a hearing first now well acknowledge i'll have

00:44:32.520 to ask the lawyers about that all i can say is this if you're going to have 21 million people and

00:44:38.040 we have to get a lot of them out the law is the law sir the law is the law and yours the law doesn't

00:44:42.720 say anything about trials no not trials hearings these people came in they're not citizens they came

00:44:47.960 in illegally they came into our country illegally we have to get them out there's a legal process for

00:44:52.900 i can't be sure and we follow the legal process i can't i can't have a trial a major trial for every

00:44:59.860 person that came in illegally we have thousands of murderers that came in right so we have to get them

00:45:06.680 out there we have to get them out fast really bad guys but in our country even bad guys get due

00:45:11.880 process right if people come into our country illegally there's a different standard these are

00:45:17.200 illegal they came in illegally but they get due process well they get a process where we have to

00:45:23.460 get them out trump was right with every word yeah terry moran was in the wrong i don't know whether

00:45:30.240 he's a lawyer or not i am i practiced law for 10 years and covered the supreme court for three

00:45:34.200 it is not true that everybody gets a hearing it is not the law just google go ahead and don't take

00:45:39.600 my word google expedited removal to me it's not even necessarily a legal issue it it it becomes a

00:45:47.620 little bit for me a human issue in the sense of i get it they came in the country illegally that

00:45:53.420 but that's our fault that's our fault to a degree for not having the right setup and if i'm having a

00:46:00.620 horrible life somewhere else and i know i can get into this country and it's like well the guys before

00:46:06.180 me that they were wrong like they they set this up and you you didn't get in fairly and and you've

00:46:12.680 been living a very productive life here and you've made the most of it to append it and send it i'm not

00:46:18.920 saying that's worth going through that just goes back to my you better be right like and i i'm not

00:46:23.440 saying i'm that's the legal like we they trump may have every legal argument to be like sorry you're gone

00:46:30.020 but reversing time to be like well you shouldn't have gotten in here and even though you came for

00:46:37.500 the right reasons the american dream and all this stuff now you're gone because the last guy shouldn't

00:46:42.340 that's where i get so you just got to be right get like and i don't know how to do it because he's

00:46:46.460 right the trials the time all of it and it's just a moral issue that i wrestle with a little i hear you

00:46:51.280 i'm i'm definitely further to the right than you are on it but i totally get your point i'll also say

00:46:56.160 that that's this is another reason why trump is using the alien enemies act because under the

00:47:01.140 alien enemies act the amount of due process one would get before being ejected is down to its most

00:47:06.520 minuscule level yeah and even the supreme court intimated that the first time it looked at this

00:47:10.500 saying some level of due process they they clearly understand it's not going to be as robust as the

00:47:16.980 aclu wants it to be and even full circle to the original the the guy the the gang guy who got el

00:47:24.940 salvador hearing how i feel you just heard and you're like well i'm more right than you are

00:47:29.220 the way they've treated that guy has once again pushed me right it's like that's who i want out of

00:47:34.800 the country and if you're going to fight that well like you're losing somebody who theoretically get

00:47:40.280 is more maybe center almost leftish but i want those people out of the country so to for the

00:47:46.100 democrats to again make a circus and just political this what are you doing going to meet with this

00:47:52.660 guy like yeah that's what drives me crazy and yet you didn't go and meet with the family of rachel

00:47:57.020 morin who was killed in your state and they're not standing by a different illegal yeah you didn't

00:48:01.720 here is uh stephen miller took to the white house podium uh yesterday and spoke about the jocelyn

00:48:06.420 nungari case which i met the 12 year old girl in texas and just ripped it watch most of your papers

00:48:12.920 never covered her story when it happened to the extent that you covered it at all it was because

00:48:18.400 president trump forced you to cover it by highlighting it repeatedly over and over again

00:48:24.660 he had to shame you into covering it and each and every one of you that sides over and over again with

00:48:30.620 these ms-13 terrorists to the extent that you have the financial means to do so you all choose to live

00:48:36.080 in condos or homes or houses as far away from these kinds of gangbangers as you possibly can

00:48:41.600 have i offered any one of you a rent-free home with no taxes to pay in any of these gang

00:48:47.260 neighborhoods and i said your neighbors are ms-13 terrorists or mexican mafia or sinaloa cartel

00:48:53.300 or train de aragua i couldn't pay you to live there but yet you with your coverage are trying

00:48:58.920 to force innocent americans to have these people as their neighbors and that one day their daughter

00:49:03.500 may be abducted from their home and raped and murdered so you're not going to get an ounce of

00:49:07.800 sympathy from this administration or president trump for the terrorists who've invaded our homes

00:49:12.020 in our country he's so good yeah i mean it's a fair point i did that's often you at all i'm so with

00:49:19.640 him on that that that goes back to what i said if you said they're your neighbor there's a lot there's

00:49:25.400 a lot of hypocritical it's easy when you're sitting in your white ivory tower to say you know your

00:49:30.880 idealistic world of the way you want the world to exist but when the rubber meets the road they would

00:49:36.720 probably privately say a lot of different things or do different things that rachel moran's mom was

00:49:41.640 talking about how she went for a jog on a trail that they always walk together it wasn't like some

00:49:48.860 risky trail it wasn't the dark of night it was during the day they'd done it a thousand times

00:49:55.160 together as a family it's like our way of life is actively being changed corrupted actually ruined

00:50:02.540 her mom's life is changed forever right by these people and so it's like i have to tell you i have

00:50:09.100 like zero empathy and i'm sorry that the ones who came even though it was illegal and didn't hurt

00:50:15.280 anybody but like actually tried to like blend in and get jobs have got to go too but they do i think

00:50:19.700 they all have got to go and then if they go trump said if you go now you could come back in but if you

00:50:25.020 just if you stay and then we find out that you overstayed you're never coming back into the country and

00:50:30.040 and then and then you're in serious trouble okay i gotta take a quick break be right back dave's with

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00:52:54.180 the megan kelly show everyone here with me today dave portnoy president and founder of barstool sports

00:52:59.760 otherwise known as el presidente um katie perry among others receiving major backlash not not for taking

00:53:07.880 the flight but for how they behaved afterward like they actually were alan shepard neil armstrong

00:53:13.860 and so she's come out to say she's feeling battered and bruised by the backlash via variety

00:53:21.040 that the internet is a dumping ground for unhinged and unhealed people but she has resolved dave to

00:53:28.180 keep looking to the light because she doesn't want to be further damaged by these unhealed people

00:53:34.360 she's right the internet is filled with unhinged lunatics um but when you do this little outer

00:53:41.620 space mission that can happen and i'm not gonna like lose my sleep worrying about katie perry's

00:53:47.040 feelings but she is right it's filled with unhinged lunatics it is but those are not the ones who are

00:53:51.440 attacking her no i'm sure she's getting it all sides and i'm not again like what are you gonna do to me

00:53:56.240 it's just so it's just right on brand to go up there and act like you're alan shepard and then

00:54:00.780 when people are like would you calm down you took a vanity flight flight to outer space thanks to

00:54:05.300 jeff bezos yeah that cost a million dollars a seat and stop saying gail king have you been literally

00:54:10.080 no one's been it costs a million dollars shut up and then when people have that reaction to you

00:54:14.420 to act like i will not be bruised by you broken people i will go toward the just stop talking just

00:54:20.540 but somebody like that is so out of touch with like reality because they've been a star and big

00:54:26.360 i i feel like if you get a celebrity like that what one or two is gonna have any ground in any reality

00:54:33.280 they're living in like a fantasy world so nothing is real um i'm actually surprised the internet can

00:54:39.540 actually get to them i didn't know what are they on x checking like comments that surprised me a little

00:54:43.600 bit certainly yeah so that that is a little surprising but yeah uh they're they're you get

00:54:48.660 to a level of coddled superstar status where you just lose track of reality when you go to outer space

00:54:53.640 we have some news on megan markle which we'll get to in just a bit okay i'm going to do some

00:54:57.360 for you too but before we leave hard news because yeah katie perry's hard news um but i i forgot to

00:55:02.960 mention this thing about pete hegseth so there's been a lot of speculation that he's gonna go mike

00:55:07.060 walls for those just joining us is reportedly out as um national security advisor along with his top

00:55:12.340 deputy alex wong a man who's been um at underneath him there since he was sworn in and um some others

00:55:19.800 too you heard mark halpern reporting that it's going to be a lot of the staff that there's reportedly

00:55:24.380 disarray over there we don't know what the full story is but we will so the speculation about whether

00:55:28.540 pete hegseth is going to be forced out as secretary of defense and i wanted to say this so i love mark

00:55:35.640 halpern and he's been doing great in his new podcast but he reported yesterday on hegseth and there

00:55:41.860 was a bit of information in there involving yours truly and i want to speak to it so watch this

00:55:47.240 he'd hagseth okay the stories about him there's still some ambiguity about the facts but people

00:55:54.700 in maga pretend there's not a problem and he's done a very good job of playing by the rules that

00:55:59.660 the president expects of being aggressive what i can report here today is that his his standing in

00:56:05.700 the administration is not as solid as some people believe and it's the president and the white

00:56:10.940 press secretary have tried to signal there are people at the senior most levels of this

00:56:15.500 administration not counting the president necessarily but the senior most levels under him

00:56:20.440 who believe that the next time pete hegseth makes a mistake or is exposed to have made a mistake

00:56:25.520 he needs to go and there are already plans underway to figure that out now what are the public clues to

00:56:31.560 that because maga has been pretty supportive of pete hegseth two people who are part of the very

00:56:38.440 strong outside support group of the president tucker carlson and megan kelly here at the megan kelly

00:56:45.620 network they've both now done interviews with the the the advisors who were forced out of their

00:56:51.140 pentagon jobs and who both have said things about pete hegseth that are not fully supportive they like

00:56:57.860 him they're close to him but they both have made it clear that they see real problems in his

00:57:01.880 governance in his stewardship at the pentagon that's a clue and i keep being pointed to that clue by folks

00:57:07.540 to say if two allies of the president and two people very close to pete hegseth megan and tucker

00:57:13.040 are doing these interviews something is afoot okay fair enough i understand why people are making that

00:57:19.920 calculation are you in that category you're the very public strong are you like yeah i'm a friend of

00:57:25.760 pete's and i supported his nomination and thought what they were trying to do to him and trump yeah

00:57:30.040 trump too totally um but i just want to say in my case i can't speak for tucker but that's not true

00:57:36.480 like i in no way put on um colin carroll one of the fired accused leakers he denies being one

00:57:43.760 completely in an effort to undermine pete or get rid of pete or because i my imaga connections or

00:57:50.540 sensitivities are telling me pete's teetering and i'm trying to push him over the edge it totally not

00:57:55.240 the case at all i'm just a news person and they actually came to me and asked me if they could come

00:58:00.520 on originally it was all three of them and then two of them got not tapped on the shoulder by their

00:58:04.660 lawyers which i understand uh but colin was like i'm doing it so i'm fine great i mean i'll interview

00:58:10.460 pete i'll interview the guy pete fired i'll interview pretty much anybody you want to put in

00:58:14.640 front of me unless i have a personal loathing for them um so just to make it clear that no one should

00:58:20.380 be reading anything into what i know or what i want based on the fact that i'm a pretty big one

00:58:25.320 eight they just publicly like last week weren't they like it's all there's no all the rumors are

00:58:30.300 false and he's in great standing yeah well and even trump in that terry moran interview

00:58:33.960 he spoke to it well you tell me what you think of how he answered the question

00:58:37.960 on pete um you've got it deb we'll watch it here 11. you said the other day that you had a talk

00:58:46.180 with the secretary did you take him to the woodshed i had a talk with him and whatever i said i probably

00:58:54.960 wouldn't be inclined to tell you but we had a good talk he's a talented guy he's young he's smart

00:59:01.540 highly educated uh and i think he's going to be a very good defense hopefully a great defense

00:59:08.020 secretary but he'll be a very good defense secretary you have 100 confidence in i don't have 100

00:59:12.960 confidence in anything okay anything do i have 100 it's a stupid question look uh it's pretty

00:59:21.260 important i have no no you don't have 100 only a liar would say i have 100 confidence i don't have

00:59:29.060 100 confidence that we're going to finish this interview that that that to me was by the way

00:59:36.960 that's why like people like trump the way he answered that but he definitely took him to the

00:59:40.680 woodshed he definitely took him to the woodshed and probably said if you embarrass me or the

00:59:45.200 administration on a major level one more time you're gone i don't want to i think he likes him and

00:59:49.980 does not want to get rid of him but he's clearly like you're out of your it's strike two has

00:59:54.980 happened i think that would be the vibe of the conversation i think that's fair yep that's fair

00:59:59.660 and that's a fair way by the way to to talk to somebody like if you i've had to fire people at

01:00:07.240 barstool who i like it but if you're just dumb and you keep screwing up i'm not going to lose sleep

01:00:13.540 over your incompetence as much as i want to keep you i'm not saying that's pete but i'm saying as a leader

01:00:19.180 at some point it doesn't matter your personal feelings if you keep screwing up you gotta go

01:00:23.380 what will get you fired at barstool you really have to try really have to be super super dumb

01:00:29.520 very few things um like we recently teetered there was a big news story like there was a vicious rumor

01:00:38.120 of a old miss like co-ed slept with her her boyfriend's dad went crazy viral yes crazy viral

01:00:46.800 we had an idiot who talked about it as though it was fact i knew it wasn't fact right away i actually

01:00:52.420 thought we were keeping it off but we posted it for seven minutes gets us in all sorts of trouble

01:00:56.960 this kid's a moron shout out nikki smokes no redeemable value really to us but i do like him

01:01:03.500 and he like tries hard he's just dumb that almost got him fired oh my god he's just working for you

01:01:08.340 and you're talking about it like this this is the truth this is somebody who you stayed who you kept

01:01:11.800 yeah he works for us no it's good to be benevolent on a big mistake though because if you can be

01:01:17.000 yes you'll never do something like that again well unless you're so stupid that you can't prevent it

01:01:23.420 despite your best right like we're not hiring the secretary of defense these are we're barstool

01:01:29.160 sports we're blogging and talking sports so sometimes you know intelligence isn't necessarily

01:01:34.700 the top requirement for us okay it's being entertaining i got it fair fair enough well it's

01:01:40.360 a world that's very foreign to me very foreign to me so you're gonna have to walk me through our next

01:01:44.040 two segments here okay we got to talk about bill belichick you ripped him okay i i mean i thought it

01:01:49.680 was elder abuse i like honestly what i saw there was dr jill had dr jill vibes this overly aggressive

01:01:55.900 younger partner who's in this like apparently he looked infirm to me the way he was answering those

01:02:01.740 questions like man who's being a take advantage of and all i could think was his family needs to do

01:02:06.700 an intervention and get this woman off of his back but can you set the stage for us on like what what's

01:02:10.880 happening with this guy i'll start by saying i am a diehard new england patriots fan yeah you're from

01:02:15.740 boston diehard i love bill belichick he's like my guy has brought so many championships i know him

01:02:21.600 personally he lives on nantucket i live on nantucket i've met jordan so it's a very awkward

01:02:27.440 thing to see i also watch that show cbs sunday morning with the interview it's like my feel good

01:02:32.900 show i just like it i like nature there's some politics whatever but for the most part that is a

01:02:38.920 drink your coffee eat your bagel feel good show so i was not expecting this interview i was squirming

01:02:46.080 i don't know what to expect i don't know what to think about it uh it certainly was awkward i've

01:02:53.520 heard people say you know is she taking advantage of him well he's taking advantage of her he's sleeping

01:02:59.060 with a a very attractive young girl 50 years younger i don't know why she's so involved like i really

01:03:06.120 don't um i've met her she's nice enough it she's running the whole show i've known that a couple months

01:03:12.940 ago how so like she every every piece of bill belichick business goes through her like she is

01:03:19.640 basically let she would act like if that was maybe not in a romantic relationship and that's

01:03:27.000 his pr manager or like an agent yeah nobody's blinking at that like that happens i'm sure a lot

01:03:33.080 with celebs we're not going to talk about it now you combine it with bill belichick who's gruff with

01:03:37.320 the media and generally always handles himself it's just a very awkward situation the age gap is

01:03:42.700 huge clearly but she runs the show there's rumors hard knocks for hbo was supposed to do uh north

01:03:48.920 carolina she shut that down um the state that's where he's the coach now yeah he's the coach there

01:03:54.260 so it's just uh it's such a juxtaposition of a guy who seemingly had no media savvy but was always

01:04:04.360 just straightforward no time for the media now having his life run by a 25 year old it certainly is

01:04:10.820 eye-opening for a guy like me i also know i'm going to run into probably them and nantucket and

01:04:16.960 i'll be carrying my watermelon out of stop and shop and i don't want it to be an awkward conversation

01:04:21.600 it all on me yeah it all on me but it went super viral i mean it's all anybody's talking about it's

01:04:27.340 all and because it's just such a departure from how a sports fan patriot fan everybody thought of

01:04:34.160 bill belichick can you so explain that to me because we watch that i come into this like at a left field

01:04:38.780 i know who he is of course even i know who bill belichick greatest coach of all time but i don't

01:04:43.720 follow his you know i didn't know about the girlfriend and all that um to me he looked out

01:04:49.160 of it like he seemed confused but i've never ever seen yeah so i've seen a lot of people like he's

01:04:54.720 wearing a holy sweatshirt that's what he does like that that is his look does he talk like that like

01:04:59.980 does he look confused generally he he generally if he doesn't want to answer a question he grumbles he

01:05:05.540 says i'm not going to answer that he's famous for not answering questions he's never media savvy

01:05:10.240 him going on a book tour which is what he was doing seems like the last thing he would ever do

01:05:16.080 in a million years if she wasn't there i would anticipate him just being like i'm not going to

01:05:23.060 answer it he's he's rarely conducting interviews that he has no interest and he just doesn't care for

01:05:29.380 the media or what they think the thing that he said that was the most accurate is probably i don't

01:05:34.080 care what people think about me and clearly he doesn't but i've never seen him

01:05:38.320 defer to anybody like that that is the most shocking you know like if someone else is speaking

01:05:45.300 for him that never happens he speaks for himself loudly through his actions clearly and is always like

01:05:52.020 a general in in the commander of the room really so to see him basically give what appears to be

01:05:59.840 control of his life to her is shocking any most of the audience is probably seeing the clip by now

01:06:05.760 but just in case they haven't let's play it for them let's play the one where she interrupts this

01:06:08.840 is uh bill belichick on cbs this morning with anchor tony dokopoul and uh his 24 year old uh

01:06:16.200 girlfriend who's 49 years younger than he is interrupting the interview watch

01:06:20.460 the other change for belichick is 24 year old jordan hudson his creative muse as he writes in his

01:06:30.280 book make sure that that's the jordan was a constant presence during our interview you have jordan right

01:06:37.760 over there everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship they've got an opinion

01:06:42.580 about your private life it's got nothing to do with them but they're invested in it how do you deal

01:06:47.540 with that never been too worried about what everybody else thinks just try to do what i feel

01:06:52.600 like is best for me and what's right how did you guys not talking about this no no it's a topic neither

01:07:00.600 one of them is comfortable commenting on okay so now she said he's how did you meet and she interjects

01:07:07.280 not count commenting about this and there are reports that she actually interjected multiple times

01:07:11.860 cbs only chose to show the one just to give the audience a true sense of what how this thing

01:07:17.480 went down and it's about the book and and to cbs's defense she that quote that he she is the muse

01:07:23.640 is in the book it's in the book yeah exactly so um now this fight started unfolding online this is

01:07:30.140 via the daily mail involving belichick's daughter-in-law she's married to his son and uh her name is

01:07:36.140 jennifer she's married to his son steve belichick um that some people were defending jordan the

01:07:42.980 girlfriend for example um somebody posted oh former new england patriot star julian edelman

01:07:49.260 saw that you know him yep stuck up for her saying she was merely acting how any pr person would

01:07:54.640 comedian nikki glazer also defended hudson saying 100 she's acting as his publicist publicists do this

01:08:01.780 during interviews people are out for blood and first of all i'll tell you what jennifer the daughter-in-law

01:08:06.640 said but i i have done countless interviews countless i've both given as the subject of them

01:08:12.640 and done conducted literally has this never i've never seen this happen never right pr people will

01:08:20.380 come to you before the interview and they will beg you not to cover or ask after for it to be cut

01:08:26.580 yes exactly that's their job as a journalist and tony dokopoul is a journalist you would say

01:08:32.340 thank you for your input that's it you would never make a promise ever it's literally considered

01:08:37.500 unethical to say i won't ask about that you know at most i've ever heard somebody say is

01:08:42.020 we can't make you any promises but you know we're not that interested in that subject like a wink and

01:08:47.040 a nod but never never has a pr person ever interviewed interjected into into an in the middle of it

01:08:54.020 no we get people asking if someone doesn't want to talk about it we generally want because people

01:08:58.140 generally want to talk about what you are asking not to talk about so we won't do it

01:09:02.000 it it's strange i i don't agree with that it it was different rules if it's like a host you know

01:09:07.620 what i mean if you're sitting to somebody who doesn't consider themselves a journalist very

01:09:09.900 different and by the way this is how talk shows get away with it all the time i've been asked as

01:09:13.560 to go on a bunch of talk shows including tamron halls like five years ago and her executive

01:09:18.300 producer said we'll give you all the questions in advance i'm like i'm not doing that i felt like

01:09:22.440 i don't want that yeah right so it's she got got away with it because they consider that a talk

01:09:26.540 show but she's not i guess calling herself a journalist anymore at least wasn't for that show

01:09:30.320 okay so then jennifer belichick's daughter i'm dying to hear this weighs in and says publicists

01:09:36.620 act in a professional matter and do not storm on storm offset delaying an interview yeah so i know

01:09:44.820 them too this is all like uh and that probably tells you everything you need to know about how

01:09:49.860 the family and that's natural there's a story that came out in the new york post i think yesterday that

01:09:54.420 she accumulated like 10 million dollars of real estate very quickly so i'm sure the family based

01:09:59.880 on that quote is a little like what is going on here and it's just this is a guy that is not a

01:10:05.460 pushover he has built his reputation on being like a gruff kind of guy who needs everything particular

01:10:12.520 and detail oriented it's just very strange to see he's the guy tim waltz was trying to convince us

01:10:18.820 he was no jazz hands yeah football i don't even know if even he was the guy man yeah he was trying

01:10:26.440 to i think be more like a gronk guy but who knows well there's more so he you know about this because

01:10:33.280 i saw you commented on it um so bill belichick posted a statement on the unc university north

01:10:41.600 carolina chapel hill is where he coaches right chapel hill yep um and he he wrote wrote as follows i agreed

01:10:47.000 to speak with cbs sunday morning to promote my new book the art of winning um prior to the interview

01:10:51.580 i clearly communicated with my publicist so he's not even saying he told tony dokopoul or the cbs

01:10:57.000 publicist i clearly communicated with my publicist at simon and schuster that any promotional interviews

01:11:02.540 i participated in would agree to focus solely on the contents of the book unfortunately that

01:11:06.580 expectation was not honored during the interview i was surprised when unrelated topics were introduced

01:11:11.080 and i repeatedly expressed to the reporter tony dokopoul and the producers that i preferred to keep

01:11:15.820 the conversation centered on the book after this occurred several times jordan with whom i share

01:11:19.900 both a personal and professional relationship stepped in to reiterate that point and help

01:11:22.960 refocus the discussion she was not deflecting any specific question or topic i'm sorry bill but she

01:11:27.780 was but was simply doing her job to ensure the interview stayed on track some of the clips made

01:11:32.280 it appear as though we were avoiding the question of how we met what we've been open about the fact

01:11:35.180 that jordan and i met on a flight to palm beach in 2021 and goes on for them saying these are just

01:11:39.820 selectively uh selectively edited clips suggested a false narrative that jordan was attempting to control

01:11:45.340 the conversation which is simply not true yeah i'm like white knuckling the table uh in my years

01:11:53.500 following bill belichick i would say my knowledge of him there's roughly zero percent chance he wrote

01:12:02.220 that he just he just doesn't care generally what anyone thinks about him so to go write that that my guess

01:12:10.300 would be jordan wrote that the fact it is on the north carolina website is insane right it's just

01:12:16.860 insane um it's shocking again it it's i'm speaking to all patriot fans boston people this guy like

01:12:25.620 if you could have predicted this people would say you're living in a bizarro world it's just

01:12:31.100 so strange in this long email crazy the public statement crazy but i i'm not even sure

01:12:37.580 he knows that was written right like he may not he he may not i really don't know so the uh daily

01:12:45.100 mail had a comprehensive piece and they cited the new york post as reporting even before this past

01:12:50.100 weekend's interview belichick's friends shaking their heads about his relationship with jordan

01:12:54.820 quote they're talking to him about her but very gently because they know how deep in it he is

01:12:59.220 she saw an opening and she took it an insider added of how she has inserted herself into every aspect of

01:13:04.400 his life and career consensus among people around belichick another source said is that this

01:13:08.320 relationship is alarming and hudson is a runaway train however they include one person defending

01:13:13.500 them saying um when it comes to the situation in it is just a moment in time he and jordan are fine

01:13:19.220 nobody should be concerned at this point but then they also say multiple reports say unc is growing

01:13:24.920 uneasy with her involvement in everything yeah so there's an adage in sports winning cures everything

01:13:33.960 if north carolina wins people are going to forget this yeah and north carolina will be happy and look

01:13:40.820 the other way if north carolina has a bad season it's going to get very rocky it is not i don't think

01:13:46.680 normal for a relatively new relationship with this age gap with the a of someone coming in running

01:13:53.560 his entire life and like cbs and hard knocks supposedly got canceled because of her it's it's

01:14:00.380 just shocking it's just shocking there's all being fought in headlines and rumors and back and forth and

01:14:06.080 by the way to jordan's credit she's if you want to say credit she's not taking a step backwards like

01:14:11.160 every time a story comes out she's pushing forwards like she is she is not a tame flower she is not

01:14:18.300 running from this at all she's running from how they met that seems clear and i in my opinion

01:14:23.440 they did not quote meet on a plane i think they did because i think they laid eyes on each other

01:14:29.520 in person for the first time on a plane but she's so defensive about it there's something more to the

01:14:34.060 story i don't know what it was was it only fans was it some setup by a matchmaker they're telling

01:14:40.020 the truth i just think she's in control in her mind she's like we said we're not talking about that

01:14:45.060 we're not talking about it because from the second i met them the story has been told the same to me

01:14:50.160 she posted how they met a long time ago i know but that's a front if they met through so she's

01:14:57.140 fauci to you she's a she's like a criminal mastermind no i mean listen i view her the same

01:15:02.420 way i viewed anna nicole smith like everyone understands what the deal here is he's an older

01:15:07.000 guy with money and power which some women find if not attractive worthy of being with they can upgrade

01:15:13.240 their lifestyle they're gonna travel the world and the old guy gets some young beautiful woman on his

01:15:18.740 arm and probably a lot of hot sex he otherwise wouldn't be having yeah i mean i keep could he

01:15:24.980 not could he not just get hookers if he didn't want i don't know i mean anna nicole i don't remember

01:15:29.600 that guy was like on his death he was like 200 years old yeah he couldn't even get up like belichick

01:15:34.180 is still outside of this seems to be normally functioning you would know 24 year old girl wants

01:15:41.040 a 74 year old man i mean that's not what you're attracted to i to me it's an obvious attempt to be

01:15:46.600 with power and money it's like look a lot of women do that yeah maybe she's legitimately attracted to

01:15:52.360 i don't know the whole thing the whole thing is makes you uncomfortable it's just i it's stunning

01:15:59.380 it is stunning before we leave the topic of the patriots i remember asking you about this the first

01:16:05.000 time you came out you were on one other time a long time before i think we only had audio at the

01:16:08.060 time um do you hate or love tom brady love love okay yeah so i may have spoken with you when he

01:16:16.620 went to the box okay i was mad at him maybe that's what happened yeah but he's the greatest of all time

01:16:21.260 okay there's no question in your mind no question he's number one yes and how is he doing as a sports

01:16:25.620 commentator bad awful not good oh why he just stinks at it what do you mean not everybody he's the

01:16:31.160 greatest quarterback not everybody is born to be a great announcer i just i don't find him

01:16:36.300 to be good at announcing football now he's brand new it's his first year they gave him a gigantic

01:16:41.940 contract but he certainly didn't come out of the gates like a natural um didn't he have all

01:16:46.860 such a training i'm sure he did for the amount they paid but again uh maybe anybody can eventually

01:16:52.240 become a good announcer i don't know it's not the easiest thing to do but he just didn't come out

01:16:56.840 of the gates he's almost to me too elevated he's so great like the way he talks but no i didn't think

01:17:03.000 he he did not come out all guns firing and again it's his first year doing it so maybe there should

01:17:10.900 be some leeway but they paid him a ton of money oh yeah i mean a ton almost 400 million dollars

01:17:15.900 crazy yeah it's a big time deal um okay shadur sanders yes so this is deon sanders son yep deon

01:17:24.000 sanders such a big football star even i know that name um what who did deon play for he and the pros

01:17:29.940 he played for falcons cowboys and 49ers okay and he is the one i've quoted deon sanders before

01:17:35.740 because he had some great quote which was something to the effect of um if you look good you play good

01:17:41.220 if you play good they pay good yep which i love that's very clever and cute but his son who was

01:17:47.560 many expected to go like well you tell me where in the draft where what were the what was the

01:17:51.360 expectation i think earlier in the season a lot of people were saying early first round

01:17:55.260 top 10 pick and then as they got close to the draft it started sliding and you heard maybe end

01:18:00.880 of the first round second round is probably what people thought going into because he's a big

01:18:05.120 college qb yes okay and then the draft comes and walk us through how that unfolded because he was

01:18:12.960 like the story that night yes so the draft comes first round comes and goes he's not drafted uh not

01:18:20.540 totally shocking um mel kuyper who is the draft guy expert he's ranting and raving he should go

01:18:28.240 and then round two comes nothing round three comes nothing so he slid i believe into the fourth round

01:18:34.660 how many rounds are there there's i think six six or seven six or seven so now he's down in the

01:18:39.480 bottom shocking shocking um and players who quarterbacks going who i think anybody would say

01:18:46.000 well shador is better than him not drafted and it became the story and it kind of took on a life of

01:18:51.420 its own with people all over the internet chiming in why isn't he getting drafted for various reasons

01:18:56.900 um that was the story so uh i love dion he used to work for a barstool he's one of my favorite guys

01:19:04.920 i've ever met there were innuendos it's race it's this it's that it to me it was none of it it was

01:19:12.900 shador sanders and the sanders are one of the great publicity machines of all time like dion's

01:19:19.080 heavily involved dion's saying hey i played in the nfl uh we're picking what team we're going to

01:19:24.400 he's going to be the starter he's this that um so there's a lot that comes including you could say

01:19:29.660 a circus when you draft your door you're putting a tent on the thing for nfl teams there's nothing

01:19:35.600 they hate more than distractions they're like the most everyone's focused we don't need the

01:19:40.200 distractions having said that if they think a guy can help them win you could be a murderer and

01:19:44.900 they draft you that's happened literally that's all they care about but in evaluating there's a

01:19:51.620 fine line between is this guy the guy and can we win with shador and he is he the franchise if teams

01:19:58.220 thought that they would have picked him instantly none of the other stuff would have mattered but he

01:20:02.380 was kind of in a weird area where a lot of teams like this isn't he's not going to be a 10 year

01:20:07.760 star he's not tom brady and if he's not that do we want him fighting for a backup job do we want

01:20:13.560 microphones in his face and because that's a circus the last thing you want that's what i believe

01:20:18.220 happens so if you didn't think he was the starter in a top five pick do you want him in your locker

01:20:25.680 room creating a circus environment and he kind of got caught in the middle and that's when he dropped

01:20:30.700 all the way to cleveland now if you're cleveland or any team dropping him fourth fifth drafting him fourth

01:20:35.660 fifth round you're like you know what enough we're getting microphones he's not who we think he is

01:20:40.380 you just cut him it's not the end of the world because you didn't waste the top draft pick if you

01:20:44.780 take him early and it doesn't work you're stuck with him really because you can't waste draft pick

01:20:50.160 so i think that's what happened all the other innuendo around it is garbage why why is president

01:20:55.960 trump involved what's he tweeted somebody should take him or what happened there friends with deon

01:21:00.180 i mean yeah during the draft he tweeted yeah he when he was slipping trump i mean trump loves

01:21:06.280 talking football he owned a football team he likes jumping in in these discussions i think sometimes

01:21:11.400 trump just can't handle like having x in front of him he's like how are they not he's like a fan

01:21:16.720 and he's president oh so but i don't think he thought anything he's like oh i'm friends with deon and

01:21:22.220 i'm gonna i'm gonna say he should be drafted is it inappropriate i like it like do people think he was

01:21:28.660 putting inappropriate pressure on teams as the president no i i kind of like it it's it depends

01:21:34.380 what he's doing but that's that's trump i mean the left tries to make a controversy out of everything

01:21:39.400 trump does okay but back to this because so stephen a smith was on the show not long ago and he posted

01:21:44.480 something that i i know you disagreed with but explain it to me so he posted someone just texted

01:21:48.680 me this message and they're absolutely correct quote this is a bad look for the nfl this feels like

01:21:53.060 kaepernick level collusion all the hard work the nfl league office puts into eradicate these kinds of

01:21:58.480 perceptions only to turn around and watch as the owners look like they're colluding messing up

01:22:02.720 everything what has been done to shador will outshine everything else in this draft we'll never believe

01:22:07.700 this is just about talent evaluation again and it that does seem to be a reference to race i mean i

01:22:14.460 don't know why you'd bring in kaepernick and what they're trying to to me i don't know why he didn't

01:22:19.200 put the word racist that's what it sounded like racism that's why i responded that's an insane take to

01:22:24.000 me that just the owners and the nfl are arguably the most competitive group of like billionaire

01:22:32.660 successful people they don't like each other they want to win they would never collude they never

01:22:38.240 collude if you if they thought shador could get them a super bowl they would do whatever so to me

01:22:44.380 that just an absolutely insane take it's just when you're drafting guys not just strictly talent you're

01:22:50.620 looking at all the things that are surrounding who was the first draft pick this year it was cam ward

01:22:55.860 as a black quarterback okay so it's like i mean then i read that um in the last three drafts including

01:23:01.000 this year yeah black quarterback went number one overall yeah i so it's not it has nothing to do

01:23:06.860 with race at all the nfl is racist what's that who thinks the nfl i mean when he says the kaepernick

01:23:13.260 stuff he's going back to take in knee and there were some teams taking a knee some not i mean jerry jones

01:23:19.720 came out so he's going back to that and by the way there is similarities to me in the kaepernick

01:23:23.680 situation in which teams just viewed kaepernick and said he's not good enough to have a circus

01:23:31.160 following like this is a distraction yeah if so do you think dion ultimately hurt his son by being such

01:23:36.980 a big personality who they thought they were going to have to deal with more than they wanted to

01:23:40.520 and strictly in where he got drafted like would he have been drafted quicker if dion if it was dion

01:23:48.180 jones who was his dad absolutely if you asked dion and you asked shador are you glad dion's there

01:23:56.160 a hundred percent he probably wouldn't be getting drafted at all if it weren't for his media like

01:24:00.840 i mean he's partying he's getting millions of dollars in endorsements and all this stuff so

01:24:05.260 it's a package deal yeah but if you're just saying would teams have dropped drafted him without i mean

01:24:09.860 dion before the draft is like don't draft my kid if i don't like you because i'm not gonna let him sign

01:24:14.100 with you oh wow he's not the first one did that the mannings did that oh really yeah the eli manning

01:24:18.760 they said to um i believe it's the colt so like if you draft him he's not coming and they didn't

01:24:23.280 draft him so they bullied them go to the colts did no one went to denver giants it was uh eli went to

01:24:29.860 the giants instead of the colts the colts had the first pick did a manning play for denver yes at the

01:24:34.340 end of his career when he had no he had no army control five yards you're right okay he no a manning

01:24:40.300 played for the colts peyton played his entire career oh there we go okay you're right so i was

01:24:43.620 right was it the colts i don't know whoever i forget now that you say it because peyton played

01:24:48.320 for the colts wherever eli whoever had the first pick maybe it was san diego oh wait they're telling

01:24:53.140 me peyton played for the colts peyton played for the colts somebody had the first pick when eli came

01:24:57.460 out and archie manning who played in the league did what dion essentially did without as much pomp and

01:25:03.260 circumstance that if you draft him he's not going and they didn't draft them and john elway has done it

01:25:08.700 so it's not dion's just was much more loud in this era of endorsements and stuff it's the circus

01:25:14.920 and if you don't think he's great i probably won't want him on my team either because i don't want

01:25:19.520 that to be the focus of what everyone's talking about well now we'll see right now yeah now the

01:25:23.720 rubber will meet the road i think he's gonna be great so we'll see are the browns any good my

01:25:27.000 friend is a diehard browns fan he's always complaining about how bad they're worst franchise

01:25:30.960 arguably in sports oh gosh so he's not gonna be happy about this well who knows maybe he's the

01:25:36.100 but they have the weirdest qb room i'm getting deep but they have they have deshaun watson the

01:25:40.180 guy who had like 9 000 illegal massages oh they paid him a ton of money they drafted another

01:25:45.560 quarterback before they have a wild qb room wild very cleveland i don't know that's fascinating

01:25:50.860 that's more for your next appearance yeah qb room with multiple massages okay very different from our

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01:29:18.860 now we've covered ground that's more in my wheelhouse and we've covered ground that's more

01:29:27.620 in dave's wheelhouse and we finish on a note of solidarity that we both have strong feelings on

01:29:32.440 and that is megan markle yeah so she has done the world premiere episode of actually being on

01:29:40.020 someone else's podcast and the someone else is the is her name is jamie kern lima now i have

01:29:49.420 actually interviewed this person but i didn't realize i had interviewed this person because she

01:29:52.600 founded it cosmetics which i remember interviewing her at mbc i think it's the same lady i could be

01:29:59.120 wrong she looks a little different but anyway um she was a news anchor and she realized that you

01:30:04.060 have a need for like cosmetics that are a little bit thicker because of the klieg lights and all

01:30:08.260 that and her brand became a billion dollar brand and she sold it to l'oreal for 1.2 billion in

01:30:12.820 2016 all for news anchor right yeah makeup yeah yeah no one offered me makeup at all here it's good

01:30:18.400 stuff we sold you down the river so she now has a podcast and is also apparently friends with megan

01:30:24.000 and in the world premiere of podcast megan duchess of sussex she pulled out all the stops here is the

01:30:33.960 intro of the episode look at this megan duchess of sussex in her first ever podcast interview

01:30:44.480 it's happening it's not about the grandeur of a gesture it's about i see you i'm nurturing you and

01:30:54.800 i see you so deeply and i love being able to see your growth of all things it's making me emotional

01:31:00.940 i have full body chills right now for them to be able to look back and go oh my gosh she has loved us

01:31:09.620 so much she's an american member of the british royal family an entrepreneur author actor founder

01:31:21.780 of the lifestyle brand as ever that just sold out of stock completely in the first hour of its recent

01:31:28.580 launch into the world she's also a mom to her two beautiful kids prince archie and princess lilibet

01:31:34.340 and wife to husband prince harry duke of sussex oh my god why don't you like her i just threw up a

01:31:41.720 little in my mouth what let me count the ways there's nothing i like about her do you know her

01:31:46.880 no but she is a malignant narcissist who cannot get enough of herself while she simultaneously plays

01:31:53.680 the victim my castle is too small the queen is mean to me they won't let me call myself her royal

01:32:00.000 highness anymore but i'm gonna put it all over my stationery and on the gifts that i give to my

01:32:03.840 friends while she never stops whining and at the same time i'm getting all worked up she that

01:32:09.840 i'm a founder i'm over it she's not important she married for money it's very clear she bagged the

01:32:16.100 elephant she was thrilled she became a quote princess well you can it was planned from the

01:32:22.060 beginning she denied being interested in the royal family which she totally was i know someone who knows

01:32:26.560 the ex-husband who said she had a vision board with prince harry on it before they met yes and she

01:32:32.620 wants that's impressive you got to admit that is impressive she nailed it yeah because a lot of

01:32:37.180 people probably did that it was like shooting fish in a barrel with all that self-help talk he had he

01:32:41.240 was no match for her so i as we unpack like an onion some of the things i'm interested i actually like

01:32:48.940 the royal family i think it's cool so that's another thing she killed the queen she did kill the queen

01:32:56.200 my opinion i i don't i agree with you i can't have someone marry into the royal family and be like

01:33:03.740 woe is me of all these attention or whatever you're getting from me it's no no kidding it's the royal

01:33:10.080 family i can't believe i'm not getting paid yeah all this stuff and then they didn't they renounce

01:33:14.340 their royalty but they still want the royalty so it is hypocritical to get into that situation then

01:33:20.120 want nothing to do with it but you do want anything to do with it i don't have as strong

01:33:23.260 of feelings as you do for her i don't care for her i wouldn't put her in a hate category of mine

01:33:31.540 i don't like her i didn't see that interview but yeah i i'm a royals guy so i like the royal i think

01:33:37.680 it's kind of cool the history the pageantry and just come in and kind of blow it up and then cry

01:33:42.800 it's like whoa and she's a bully i mean the reports were uniformly from inside the castle that all the

01:33:48.680 young women in particular who work for her quit in tears she so wore them down it was so nasty

01:33:53.780 then when she started her own company similar reports coming out from montecito about how

01:33:58.300 no one can work for her she's a nightmare behind the scenes and not toward the betterment of her

01:34:02.800 staff just because she's an insecure person who takes it out on other people what was up with the

01:34:07.600 no makeup that had to be an intentional move that's another thing maureen was saying this on her

01:34:11.040 maureen callahan has a new podcast for part of our network and with the makeup lady yeah and

01:34:15.160 exactly right and it's bullshit so first of all she had the hair blown out it was perfect

01:34:19.320 i do not believe that she was makeup free there she didn't have eye makeup on which is a different

01:34:23.400 thing um but that's her being relatable dave yeah right relatable intentional relatable yeah um so here

01:34:29.720 she is talking about the joy she don't like your top 10 hate list oh yeah she's not top five

01:34:36.440 all right um the joy of working hard i'm sure she's really toiling away take a listen

01:34:43.060 but to the world it's just what has she been doing does she work as opposed to oh my gosh i work so

01:34:52.440 hard and i do you i appreciate what hard work looks like i like working hard um and i'm still

01:35:01.280 working hard right the moment that everything sells out it doesn't mean that we're done yeah it

01:35:06.180 means we're working on replenishment and what are the next skews and what's the next tranche of

01:35:08.800 products and what's the timing on that and writing the newsletters and writing the social media

01:35:12.400 captions and making sure that all that feels in line and what's the cadence of it and what's the

01:35:16.760 photography that we want to do and what do i want to wear for those shoots while also editing all the

01:35:21.260 time coding notes for season two the other lady is a little and then edits for the podcast and making

01:35:27.280 and being a mom oh yeah and a friend that's right yeah those are all jobs i mean i love being that busy

01:35:36.840 but i do think it's really interesting when people have no sense of what goes into the thing

01:35:40.880 yeah it's like between two ferns almost the way she's hosting it the thing's not done right the

01:35:48.160 finish line was really the starting okay we get it yes go that that that would infuriate me like as

01:35:55.840 someone who's trying to start a business struggling because like you can't fail like you're you're if

01:36:01.640 you're selling i don't know what she's selling candles i don't know what she's selling jam jam like

01:36:05.340 you're you're in the royal family so to this head start that you have and then complain about

01:36:11.520 working hard it's like you're in the royal family so to complain about oh the business you don't have

01:36:17.420 to if you don't want to show up if you don't want to do the schedule you don't have to do anything you

01:36:20.560 don't want to do right you're living in a fan literally like a fantasy tale of but i the other

01:36:25.940 the host what's happening with her you actually didn't if people didn't know who was who

01:36:31.220 i think people be focusing on the host the expression yeah yeah it was between two ferns

01:36:38.060 yeah so yeah i don't know i don't hate her as much as you but it's really it's like a love to

01:36:43.220 hate situation i don't have actual hatred for her i have that for very few people it's a small list but

01:36:48.420 she's not on it but i just can't stand her i just think she's such a phony i love to make fun of her

01:36:53.980 because she continues to give me so much material she comes across as a phony in that i've got it i've got

01:36:58.920 to show you one more on that okay look this is a short one sat 29 look at this ridiculousness

01:37:03.640 your close friends and family so many of them call um and harry h yes how did that start and tell me

01:37:14.860 about that probably at the beginning of us dating when everything was in code code yeah people didn't

01:37:23.060 know yeah she's she's the problem what about memory lane so long ago i mean it'll be our seven

01:37:28.920 year wedding anniversary soon i couldn't say tell anyone who i was dating and he was keeping so i think

01:37:34.220 we were just on a letter basis yeah and then um it stuck it's stuck it's stuck it was their code

01:37:43.320 they're super stealthy code m and h like like when i called doug bug it's ridiculous that's like

01:37:54.220 choosing your alias as a famous person and it's john smith like will that podcast have like crazy

01:37:59.900 numbers because she's on it like does she move the needle like that i have no idea but if if it does

01:38:04.600 it's going to be at least two-thirds hate listeners like yeah i mean i but i actually again i think it'll

01:38:10.140 be overshadowed by the interviewer who is looks like yeah on outer outer space yes and so bizarre

01:38:16.260 with the weird blush and the makeup to no makeup so speaking of podcast success do you have any

01:38:21.160 advice for me you you've grown this yours is killing it right well i only have two in the mk podcast

01:38:26.180 network so far oh you're getting you're talking adding yeah adding like a network like you know you

01:38:30.960 have a network at barstool yeah so do you well are you focused on news yes news culture you know

01:38:38.840 everything related to news yeah i don't know it's not sports so we've always just looked for

01:38:45.180 different things like that that try to find something talented people and find things that

01:38:51.300 i haven't seen necessarily before so like call her daddy which i'm surprised i don't see the big signs

01:38:56.960 around here yeah you found that yeah she went on to become extremely and i hadn't seen anything like

01:39:01.680 that like it wasn't my cup of tea but it was like oh this is different and we've been very successful

01:39:05.760 for that but it it's trying to get out of i guess a network sense it's like and i'm sure it would be

01:39:11.540 similar with you if i see something and it catches me for more than a minute or two it's like i'm

01:39:16.080 interested in this that's a good start we've certainly been wrong a lot it's a band label for

01:39:21.060 us kind of like a band label sign a bunch of little bands hopefully one or two hit and that kind of is the

01:39:26.600 model and how how long do you wait until you you know cut bait or declare them as we sign them for

01:39:31.920 contracts so it's generally like two to three years so like a band label and not different from

01:39:37.040 band label once they become successful they're very difficult to deal with like then they want

01:39:41.780 the money they see what's going on and so the talent business stinks yeah because once the talent becomes

01:39:48.880 big they don't need you anymore and they may be under contract but it you gotta they generally if they

01:39:54.700 if we can't resign them they leave and we built a lot of very rich superstars in this digital age

01:40:00.620 from alex cooper pat mcafee a lot of people make a lot of money and then we just got to refill the

01:40:05.500 pipeline and find the next and it never ends and that sucks i feel like you know i i have good people

01:40:10.660 i have faith in them we have a good relationship but famous last words i i take your point so i mean

01:40:15.520 your company now is huge right i mean you i read that in like 2002 you were filing for bankruptcy

01:40:22.120 and now you're talking about the trump tariffs costing you like 20 million dollars that's just what was

01:40:26.360 what it cost you yeah so you're obviously hugely successful yeah we've done well

01:40:30.140 that bankruptcy thing by the way this was a new york times hit piece i did but it was like my dad

01:40:35.100 told me in college and i hate the new york times anyhow that wasn't a business thing so yeah that we

01:40:40.180 sold uh barstool in 2016 15 of it for uh about 12 million was the valuation then we sold it again

01:40:48.580 for 600 million was the valuation and then i got it back for a dollar so now i have the whole thing again

01:40:54.180 that was so crazy yeah so it's been a wild ride so what like now that you have all this money

01:40:59.180 do you live differently or are you different i don't think i'm different i certainly live

01:41:04.080 differently things that i've always been interested in like horse racing kentucky derbies this weekend

01:41:09.080 i love horses love so i would go to the track growing up and now instead of being you know in

01:41:15.500 in the bleacher section or with the riffraff betting two bucks i can afford to own the horses so things

01:41:20.680 like that have changed but it's still my core interest i don't think i've changed i i guess you'd i mean

01:41:26.940 a positive thing about barstool a lot of the people who started with me are still there so

01:41:31.540 you know i that's your rider dies yeah rider dies or we just treat our employees like well and i don't

01:41:38.400 think anybody would ever say about me they may be like he's a jerk or he's blunt but nobody would be

01:41:43.680 like he's dishonest i'm pretty straight in all my dealings with people and that's helped get us i

01:41:47.740 mean we've been around now over 20 years so that's helped well i i find it entertaining i go over

01:41:52.560 they're not really for sports but when commentary comes into the news world political and i love it

01:41:56.940 i love how frank you go viral i mean i saw i try not to because whatever you get in politics people

01:42:03.640 and both right and left if i like i criticized trump the other day because his line about the stock

01:42:09.640 market is not his stock it is like you have affected the stock market because of tariffs end of story

01:42:16.280 it's it you can't say it's not like you can't blame that on biden it's yours you're you're by

01:42:23.020 the tariffs it's yours and if i say that suddenly all the people like me on the right hate me they're

01:42:28.040 like oh yeah but it's like i have to call out you're saying how you actually feel which is that's that's

01:42:33.000 the name of this game right that's for sure by the way my team tells me that this youtube show for

01:42:37.300 this jamie lady this squeaky voiced makeup lady is they're at 251 000 views after three days

01:42:44.080 which is terrible yeah absolutely terrible for for having the duchess success that's i thought

01:42:50.140 you're gonna say like 250 million no yeah or like at least 2.5 million i like it no one has any

01:42:55.640 interest in i don't even know what happened hearing her uh talk about how hard her life is or how hard

01:43:00.480 she's working or her secret code for h&m whomever could they mean who's gonna crack this like an snl

01:43:07.500 spoof dave portnoy great to have you thanks for being here yeah i hope to see you again okay and uh

01:43:13.240 don't forget you can't miss tomorrow's show we will debut our new film blonde origin don't call

01:43:19.620 it a ride see you then

The Megyn Kelly Show - May 01, 2025

New Details on Bill Belichick’s Controversial Relationship, Mike Waltz Out at NSC, Meghan Markle’s Strange Podcast Interview, with Dave Portnoy ｜ Ep. 1062

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