The Megyn Kelly Show - New Poll Panics Dems, Debate Preview, and Kamala's Fake Nice Vibe, with Larry Elder and Adam Carolla

00:00:00.540 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.400 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We're coming to you live today from the Sirius XM studio in Los Angeles,

00:00:18.580 where I will be speaking later at the All In Summit. You know the All In guys, David Sachs and company.

00:00:24.840 He's a frequent guest on this show, while they're having just a huge summit with a bunch of mostly tech people.

00:00:31.400 I don't know what I'm doing here, but they invited me and I like them, so I said yes.

00:00:34.940 It should be pretty interesting. We'll bring you highlights later this week.

00:00:38.200 It is debate week, more importantly, with the hugely consequential showdown between former President Donald Trump and Vice President Kamala Harris.

00:00:45.940 It happens tomorrow night, Tuesday night. And just in time, overnight, the Harris campaign has finally added some policy to her website.

00:00:57.040 Remember, it's been all merch and LGBTQ pictures of her in, like, rainbow gear?

00:01:01.680 Well, finally, we have some policies. Oh, great, great. I'll bet you the ABC team is like, fantastic.

00:01:06.860 Now we've got something to pour over. Later today, Adam Carolla is going to be here, but joining me now, Larry Elder, host of The Larry Elder Show.

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00:02:06.360 Larry, great to see you in person.

00:02:07.660 Megan, nice to see you in person, too.

00:02:09.280 Yeah, it's so fun to get on the road. California is absolutely beautiful.

00:02:11.720 It's so sad that it's run entirely by Democrats.

00:02:14.040 This is our second time. I first met you in 2016 in Cleveland when you interviewed me.

00:02:18.260 Oh, gosh, you're right. That seems like another lifetime.

00:02:20.660 I must have made quite an impression because you completely forgot about it.

00:02:22.500 No, I mean, of course, I've interviewed you many times.

00:02:24.080 That is our first time meeting you in person. Well, actually, we met in 2016.

00:02:27.980 I can't, like, when I drive around here, I'm like, it has so much potential.

00:02:30.940 If only they would have more than Democrats running the show.

00:02:33.700 Well, I tried, as you know, in 2021.

00:02:35.400 I ran for governor, and I raised $27 million in seven or eight weeks.

00:02:41.020 That's how many people were angry at what's going on here in California.

00:02:44.360 We have lost about a million people in the last three years.

00:02:47.640 The average price of a home in California is twice that of the national average.

00:02:51.260 And the number one reason that people cite when leaving California is they cannot afford the price of a home.

00:02:55.860 And the price is so high because of the relationship that Democrats have that have dominated this state for a decade.

00:03:01.320 There isn't a Republican elected statewide in California in over 20 years.

00:03:05.040 And they're in bed with the environmentalists.

00:03:06.780 The environmentalists don't want any new construction.

00:03:08.360 As a result, you have a supply-demand problem.

00:03:11.120 It's almost like a preview of what Kamala Harris wants to do to the United States.

00:03:14.840 Right.

00:03:15.240 And she has been in this state eight years as a DA in the Bay Area, eight years as an AG in California, and then senator and now vice president.

00:03:24.620 What's going on in California is a coming attraction to the country if, God forbid, she becomes president.

00:03:30.320 So she is hauled up in, I guess, a hotel room right now in Pennsylvania getting ready for the debate.

00:03:35.120 She's been there for several days.

00:03:36.440 I think it must be six now, according to the New York Times yesterday.

00:03:38.980 It had been five then.

00:03:40.480 Doing debate prep that looks like the real thing.

00:03:43.220 They were saying that they created the mock stage.

00:03:45.040 They have Philippe Raines, who played Trump when Hillary Clinton was preparing to debate against him, dressed as Trump, acting as Trump, and she's going over and over and over.

00:03:56.820 Trump is sitting with people who talk to him about policy.

00:04:00.240 He just doesn't do it like she does it.

00:04:02.240 But, of course, all of his interviews have been debate prep in a way, and she's done one.

00:04:07.200 Right.

00:04:07.700 One in nearly two months now as the nominee.

00:04:11.720 And so what are you going to be looking for at tomorrow night's debate?

00:04:15.640 Well, the first thing is I would tell President Trump, if I were to ask, and I wasn't, don't underestimate her.

00:04:21.060 She has been, as I said, DA for eight years in the Bay Area.

00:04:25.040 She won.

00:04:26.440 She beat somebody that was the favorite to win AG race in California.

00:04:31.900 She got reelected.

00:04:33.020 And, of course, she ran for senator.

00:04:34.360 Every time she's been on the ballot, she's never lost.

00:04:37.500 She did run for president, but she bailed out before the first contest, so I don't really count that.

00:04:41.020 Every time she's been on the ballot, she has won.

00:04:43.480 So don't underestimate her.

00:04:45.140 She's also a lawyer.

00:04:46.040 She's also been a trial lawyer.

00:04:47.880 You're a lawyer.

00:04:48.680 I'm a lawyer.

00:04:49.400 And lawyers are trained to debate.

00:04:51.760 That said, her job is to somehow divorce herself from the fact that the majority of Americans believe her on the wrong track,

00:04:58.860 and they're on the wrong track economically because of the spending, because of the ridiculous amount of money that Joe Biden spent.

00:05:04.720 And often she was a tiebreaker in the bills that were the big spending bills.

00:05:08.620 She has said that she's the last person in the room whenever Joe Biden makes a major decision that would include Afghanistan, so she owns that.

00:05:14.840 She owns everything.

00:05:15.840 So her job tonight is to somehow divorce herself from the bad things and say, I'm a fresh new candidate, even though, frankly, I'm the incumbent.

00:05:22.720 That's her job.

00:05:23.380 And Megan, it doesn't matter what she does.

00:05:26.220 She could babble like my cousin Vinny.

00:05:27.920 It doesn't matter.

00:05:29.060 The media will say, refreshing.

00:05:30.860 She prepared.

00:05:32.140 She was unafraid.

00:05:34.040 She was calm.

00:05:34.640 She was poised.

00:05:35.420 She wasn't going to be bullied.

00:05:36.360 It doesn't matter what she does.

00:05:37.860 She could fall down.

00:05:38.960 She could just start babbling like a baboon.

00:05:42.120 It does not matter.

00:05:43.440 The media is going to praise her.

00:05:44.440 And no matter what Donald Trump does, how controlled he is, how he stays focused on the issues, how he concentrates on saying, are you better off now than you were three and a half years ago?

00:05:55.080 We have a side-by-side comparison.

00:05:56.800 How often do we have that, where you have the last four years of an incumbent, previous four years of the former president?

00:06:01.820 How is inflation?

00:06:03.820 How are gas prices?

00:06:05.760 How is the cost of living?

00:06:06.980 The average family of four right now is paying around $1,200 a month more for the same goods and services as three and a half years ago.

00:06:13.360 We have a direct relationship to compare apples to apples, and if Donald Trump can stay focused on that, he wins.

00:06:19.500 The media won't credit him, but the individuals who are watching, swing voters and moderate Democrats who are watching, not influenced by ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, will see for themselves the difference.

00:06:31.000 And what's his challenge?

00:06:32.800 A challenge to stay focused.

00:06:34.580 Don't get sidetracked on nonsense.

00:06:36.820 He's going to be asked about what he said about her race, as if that matters.

00:06:40.460 When you walk into the store and you're paying more for a pound of ground beef, for bread, for milk, you're paying more for rent.

00:06:47.340 Does it matter what Donald Trump calls her racially?

00:06:49.880 It's ridiculous, but it'll be brought up.

00:06:51.840 I mean, it's possible she'll skip it because she already had her bite at that apple.

00:06:55.020 If she does it, if she skips it, Kamala Harris will bring it up.

00:06:57.660 It's going to be brought up.

00:06:58.520 And what's interesting about that, Megan, is if you look at studies going back over decades, black people have higher self-esteem than white people.

00:07:06.300 Black women have higher self-esteem than white women.

00:07:09.340 So if the idea is Donald Trump somehow is demeaning her race, that's only relevant if somehow black people are suffering some sort of inferiority complex when, in fact, they aren't.

00:07:18.260 So what difference does it make what he calls her?

00:07:20.300 Does it matter to her what he calls her?

00:07:22.320 She dismissed the question when she was asked that by Dana Bash.

00:07:25.200 She said, let's move on.

00:07:26.440 Trump should say, let's move on.

00:07:27.580 It doesn't matter what I've called you.

00:07:29.640 And think about what you called me, a fascist, a Nazi, a villain, a Hitler, Darth Vader.

00:07:34.900 What did they call him for the last three and a half years?

00:07:36.360 A sexual predator.

00:07:36.780 Yes.

00:07:37.420 Right.

00:07:37.780 Yes.

00:07:38.100 Yeah, Hitler.

00:07:38.820 I'm watching Wolf Blitzer on CNN.

00:07:40.700 Wolf Blitzer is one of the more normal ones on CNN.

00:07:43.040 Supposedly.

00:07:44.020 There were two women he was interviewing, both of whom called Donald Trump, quote, a convicted rapist, close quote.

00:07:49.220 He is not a convicted rapist.

00:07:50.680 And Wolf Blitzer didn't say a damn thing.

00:07:52.400 And Joe Biden has, for the entirety of his campaign, claimed that Donald Trump, talking about Charlottesville, said there were good Nazis and bad Nazis on both sides.

00:08:01.800 When, in fact, as you well know, he was saying that there were good and bad people on both sides of the debate as to whether there should be a Confederate monument in the public square.

00:08:09.280 Jake Tapper on CNN, two and a half years later, says, you know, I went back and I looked at the tape and Donald Trump was not saying there were good fascists and good white nationalists on both sides.

00:08:19.600 What he was saying was there were good and bad people on the issue of whether there should be a statue of Robert E. Lee downtown.

00:08:26.260 Biden goes on CNN after this and says it again.

00:08:28.900 Yeah.

00:08:29.140 And nobody said a word.

00:08:30.120 Yeah.

00:08:30.200 Nobody said, well, my colleague Jake Tapper just said blah, blah, blah.

00:08:33.240 Nobody said a word.

00:08:34.100 He still says it and says that's the basis for his campaign.

00:08:37.500 It was in his first campaign ad and it's in one of the campaign ads that Kamala Harris is doing, too.

00:08:41.760 It's a lie.

00:08:42.760 The whole premise behind Joe Biden's candidacy is a lie and the media hasn't let him get away with it.

00:08:47.340 She might.

00:08:48.020 She might do that again tomorrow night.

00:08:49.700 She's lying right now about J.D. Vance repeating that AP lie that he diminished school shootings.

00:08:55.320 It's just a fact of life.

00:08:56.420 And oh, well, we're going to have to learn to live with them.

00:08:58.000 That's not all what he said.

00:08:59.000 He said, I hope this doesn't become a fact of life.

00:09:01.000 He said, I regret this.

00:09:02.940 I regret that we're having to deal with this.

00:09:04.520 That part was left off.

00:09:05.280 But exactly to the point where the Associated Press then had to change its headline, but

00:09:09.140 it didn't stop her.

00:09:10.180 She's so dishonest from running with the original version as if she's on some other planet where

00:09:16.340 she's not able to receive updates on the news.

00:09:18.360 She knows exactly what actually happened.

00:09:20.860 She just wants to mislead for political purposes.

00:09:22.800 And it's a big misleading issue.

00:09:24.220 And the point is it's out there and the retraction never gets the same kind of pub as the initial

00:09:27.940 statement does.

00:09:28.580 So the damage is done.

00:09:29.880 So she's going to lie.

00:09:30.740 We can expect that.

00:09:31.560 I mean, if Trump sticks to what he did at the debate against Joe Biden, it should be

00:09:36.460 a win for Republicans.

00:09:37.540 I've heard a lot of Republicans say, oh, he didn't do that well at that debate.

00:09:40.480 I actually thought he did very well.

00:09:41.820 He controlled himself.

00:09:42.840 And if you go back and look at it, he was on message.

00:09:45.620 I mean, virtually every answer referenced immigration.

00:09:49.160 He had clearly been told there are a couple of issues that are going to win you this election.

00:09:53.280 Stick to those.

00:09:54.240 And he did it.

00:09:55.020 And I think the same approach should be used tomorrow night.

00:09:57.760 In fact, Megan, he did too well.

00:09:58.960 He killed Joe Biden.

00:10:00.900 He was done.

00:10:02.220 Well, that's the most interesting thing about this entire election cycle, that that went

00:10:06.460 from looking like the most brilliant move ever to the most catastrophic bad move ever.

00:10:11.060 He should have maybe taken his foot off the gas after a while.

00:10:13.720 But it is what it is.

00:10:15.680 I was in the RNC in Milwaukee, and people were giddy about the prospect of Donald Trump

00:10:20.940 getting reelected.

00:10:21.920 And I said, don't think Joe Biden's going to be the candidate.

00:10:24.360 The candidate's going to be Kamala Harris.

00:10:25.560 And they said, well, it won't matter.

00:10:26.380 I said, once she has announced, I know her poll numbers are lower than Biden, but once

00:10:31.460 she announces, the media is going to transform her into a combination of Joan of Arc and Rosa

00:10:35.380 Park.

00:10:35.720 And that's exactly what they've done.

00:10:36.760 Now she walks on water.

00:10:38.020 Yes, she is.

00:10:38.700 She's like the second coming of Barack Obama, which is exactly what you said.

00:10:42.080 However, it's not all glorious over on Team Blue.

00:10:46.340 This New York Times-Siena poll is not good.

00:10:49.240 Right.

00:10:49.620 Not good at all.

00:10:50.480 Well, it's got so much juice in it.

00:10:53.380 I mean, I want to go over the specifics, but it's showing that it's, you know, Trump's

00:10:57.620 up one point over Kamala Harris.

00:10:59.740 But the interesting thing is he's never up one point.

00:11:03.220 I mean, he's the past couple of election cycles.

00:11:05.320 He was down nine to Joe Biden at this point.

00:11:07.280 I think he was down, what was it?

00:11:10.000 Two to Hillary Clinton at this point in the election cycle.

00:11:13.640 And think about that.

00:11:14.900 So he was down two to Hillary in 2016 at this point.

00:11:17.940 He's now up one over Harris.

00:11:19.960 He beat Hillary Clinton.

00:11:21.620 And he came within, you know, 20,000 votes in the swing states of beating Joe Biden, even

00:11:26.760 though Joe Biden was up eight over him at this point.

00:11:29.980 So now Trump's up, which has the left completely melting down.

00:11:35.420 And here are some of the reasons.

00:11:37.640 This is the biggest one.

00:11:38.720 Do you think Kamala Harris represents change or more of the same?

00:11:44.040 55%, she represents more of the same.

00:11:46.760 Only 25% say major change.

00:11:49.520 15% say minor change.

00:11:51.260 But the vast majority say she's more of the same.

00:11:54.240 Donald Trump, 53% see him as a major change.

00:11:58.840 And the people want change.

00:12:00.660 60% of them, 61% say the next president should represent a major change from the Joe Biden era.

00:12:06.740 You know, and that's really remarkable when you consider the resistance.

00:12:10.580 Media Research Center looked at ABC, NBC, CBS, even though they don't have the same power.

00:12:14.900 They used to have the nightly news programs.

00:12:16.620 They still probably generate around 30 million people every night.

00:12:19.560 And a lot of the other news outlets get their cue from them.

00:12:23.160 85% of their coverage of Harris-Waltz has been positive.

00:12:27.860 90% of the coverage of Trump-Vance has been negative.

00:12:30.720 You consider that and the two-and-a-half-year collusion nonsense, the Hunter Biden laptop story was diminished by 51 intelligence officials, and you had platforms like Facebook and like Twitter shutting down that story.

00:12:43.460 You have Mark Zuckerberg spending $419.5 million of his own money on election officials in heavy Democrat areas to get out the Democrat turnout.

00:12:50.360 Now, all of that, and the man is still even in the polls.

00:12:53.380 Can you imagine what would happen if we had a fair media, a media that didn't have 93% of journalists as registered as something other than Republican?

00:13:01.360 Only 7% of journalists are Republican.

00:13:03.320 If we had a fair-minded media, this would be a runaway.

00:13:05.800 It would be a joke.

00:13:07.180 Keep in mind, Bill Clinton said, it's the economy, stupid.

00:13:10.300 The issue is, are you better off now than you were a year ago?

00:13:13.240 If you answer that question, the only people who are better off now are illegal aliens.

00:13:17.180 The average American is not.

00:13:18.480 That should be that simple.

00:13:19.500 If it weren't for the biased media and how they focus on nonsense that Trump says and they don't focus on the stuff that he says that matters, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

00:13:26.860 Here's what's nuts.

00:13:27.740 The left, of course, doesn't see it that way.

00:13:29.920 I mean, it's amazing, the hate.

00:13:31.860 This guy, Aaron Rupar, who's just one of the worst.

00:13:34.700 He was with Vox.

00:13:36.000 Now he's on his own.

00:13:38.260 He tweets out whether he ultimately gets 48% or 45% of the vote, Trump having this level of support is evidence of a profoundly sick society.

00:13:50.180 We're sick because we don't see him as the Hitler-esque figure that Aaron does.

00:13:56.180 And that is representative of most of the leftist reaction to this New York Times-Siena poll.

00:14:00.560 It is the gold standard.

00:14:01.840 There's no better poll.

00:14:02.940 And they are in tears over the fact that it's tight.

00:14:07.340 You know, this business about Donald Trump being a Nazi, this is standard Democrat fare.

00:14:13.980 Ronald Reagan was called, a congressman said, Ronald Reagan gets his fascist precepts in the pages of Mein Kampf.

00:14:20.900 When Barry Goldwater was nominated in 1964, the governor of California said, the stench of fascism is in the air.

00:14:28.140 George Herbert Walker Bush was called, compared to Joseph Goebbels.

00:14:32.940 By George Soros.

00:14:34.700 So they do this all the time.

00:14:35.880 The reason for Donald Trump getting more than anybody else is because he's taken on the media.

00:14:39.980 He's called them fake news.

00:14:41.280 And so now people trust the media less than at any other time in America.

00:14:44.540 And it's because of Donald Trump.

00:14:45.780 That's why they dislike him so much.

00:14:47.140 There's another reason they dislike him.

00:14:49.160 When he ran in 2016, he was a joke.

00:14:51.400 He was on CNN.

00:14:52.660 He was on MSNBC all the time.

00:14:54.280 Why?

00:14:54.940 Because their numbers went up when he was on.

00:14:57.240 They considered him to be a caricature, a cartoon character.

00:14:59.660 They knew he wasn't going to go anywhere.

00:15:01.080 So what's the problem?

00:15:01.820 Put him on.

00:15:02.500 Numbers went up.

00:15:03.100 Numbers went up.

00:15:03.640 Numbers went up.

00:15:04.100 Then he began picking off all of his rivals one after another.

00:15:06.760 And they realized, oh my God, I've created a monster.

00:15:09.000 So they felt responsible in part for Donald Trump's popularity.

00:15:12.080 And they blamed themselves.

00:15:13.480 Add to that, Donald Trump calls him fake news.

00:15:15.620 And he is their number one enemy.

00:15:17.840 That's why they dislike him so much.

00:15:19.460 Oh, it's a great analysis.

00:15:21.260 You're exactly right.

00:15:21.840 A little bit more from the left.

00:15:22.740 Bill Kristol.

00:15:23.900 Distressing, depressing, alarming.

00:15:26.600 After everything.

00:15:27.740 January 6th, after clear evidence,

00:15:29.520 a second term would be far more authoritarian than the first.

00:15:34.580 After the ever-increasing radicalization of MAGA world,

00:15:37.800 Trump now has more support than he had in 16 or 20.

00:15:41.820 So that's right.

00:15:42.980 He does have more support than in 16 or 20.

00:15:44.940 Maybe they should stop and think about why.

00:15:47.860 And actually think about what they've done to drive his numbers up.

00:15:51.440 And you mentioned Bill Kristol from the left.

00:15:52.820 He used to, of course, be on the right.

00:15:54.620 That's how tragic this whole thing is.

00:15:57.500 I'm amused by this business about democracy being on the ballot.

00:16:00.440 Because for four years when Donald Trump was president,

00:16:02.940 you had Hillary Clinton referring to him as illegitimate, her word,

00:16:05.920 and saying the election of 2016 was stolen, her word.

00:16:09.160 There was a poll, a YouGov poll, that found 66% of Democrats

00:16:12.700 believe that the Russians changed vote tallies in 2016 to get Donald Trump elected.

00:16:18.640 Obama's DHS secretary, Jay Johnson, testified under oath.

00:16:21.540 The Russians failed to change a single vote tally.

00:16:24.500 They tried, but they failed to change a single vote tally.

00:16:27.420 66% of Democrats believe the Russians changed vote tallies to get Donald Trump elected in 2016.

00:16:33.120 Jay Johnson also said, you know, as far as the impact of the Russian interference on popular opinion,

00:16:39.700 I don't know.

00:16:40.360 I have to have a world where there was Russian interference,

00:16:42.380 one where there wasn't compared to the two.

00:16:43.660 Since I can't do that, I'd have to be a mind reader.

00:16:45.480 I don't know.

00:16:45.940 But there was a study done by NYU Stern School of Management that looked at the impact of the interference,

00:16:51.000 and they found that it was barely measurable.

00:16:53.320 78% of Democrats, according to Gallup, believe that the Russian impact altered public opinion.

00:16:59.120 So my long way of saying a greater percentage of Democrats believe 2016 was stolen,

00:17:03.360 that we feel that way by 2020.

00:17:04.760 But nobody accuses them of undermining the foundation of our republic.

00:17:07.580 It's a double standard.

00:17:08.720 It's hypocrisy.

00:17:09.300 It's so true.

00:17:10.040 Even last week with this indictment of two Russians who were accused of starting this podcast network

00:17:16.920 with more conservative-leaning hosts, it was like, they're interfering again.

00:17:21.140 And we actually took a hard look at the allegations of the indictment.

00:17:24.100 There's one paragraph, one, that actually suggests true interference where someone who was allegedly Russian

00:17:31.900 funneled a message down to a podcaster saying,

00:17:35.740 we think the attack on Russia was done by Ukraine, not by ISIS.

00:17:40.920 And allegedly the podcast host said, you know, I'm happy to talk about that.

00:17:45.200 That's it.

00:17:46.040 One.

00:17:46.520 One guy who, I mean, it really is not that popular with all due respect.

00:17:50.220 I don't know exactly which one it was, but I know it wasn't Tim Pool, and I know it wasn't Dave Rubin,

00:17:53.820 and the others are nowhere near as popular as those two.

00:17:55.780 Right, right.

00:17:56.100 And that's it, Larry.

00:17:58.140 This led the New York Times.

00:17:59.680 It was all over.

00:18:00.500 Like, the Russians are in here.

00:18:01.720 We have one podcast host making one comment in a whole YouTube channel that over the course of a year

00:18:07.200 only had 16 million views.

00:18:08.760 As I said to the audience, we get that in a few days.

00:18:11.140 It's absurd.

00:18:12.380 It advances the agenda that the Russians want Donald Trump to be president.

00:18:15.640 Never mind that Vladimir Putin just came out and said, I support Kamala Harris.

00:18:19.400 But I think he's trolling.

00:18:20.540 There's zero chance he actually supports Kamala Harris.

00:18:22.340 I mean, who knows?

00:18:22.860 That's Putin.

00:18:23.780 But in any event.

00:18:24.460 If I were Putin, I would support Kamala Harris.

00:18:26.560 So would I.

00:18:27.020 Why wouldn't I?

00:18:27.520 Yeah, I know, right.

00:18:28.280 Their policies would be better.

00:18:29.460 Yeah, exactly.

00:18:29.660 Yeah, I know.

00:18:30.620 But, you know, he's got to.

00:18:31.420 Can I say one more thing about the election interference stuff?

00:18:34.080 Donald Trump is blasted for using whatever means he could legally to overturn, to use

00:18:39.760 their word, the election in 2020.

00:18:41.620 It seems to me, if I'm a Biden supporter, I would want Trump to exhaust every legal mean

00:18:47.060 he feels necessary so that the American people can be confident that the election was fair.

00:18:51.220 In 2000, when Al Gore lost to George W. Bush, about a dozen House members tried to overturn

00:18:59.440 Florida the following January, claiming that the Supreme Court unlawfully stopped the count.

00:19:04.280 Four years later, when Donald Trump, when George W. Bush got reelected, 30 House members,

00:19:08.500 plus Barbara Boxer here in California, tried to overturn Ohio, claiming that the Debold voting

00:19:13.560 machines had been tampered with because Debold is a company whose CEOs are a public.

00:19:17.580 No evidence of it, but that's what they did.

00:19:19.800 Fast forward to 2016, they challenged nine states versus the six that Donald Trump challenged.

00:19:23.880 Nobody accused them of engaging in election interference.

00:19:26.280 I thought they had a First Amendment to whine, and I felt that they had every right to file

00:19:30.060 whatever lawsuits they want to.

00:19:31.120 Hillary filed a lawsuit with Jill Stein to overturn Wisconsin.

00:19:34.220 Nobody accused her of undermining the foundation of our republic.

00:19:36.780 Donald Trump does the same thing these guys have been doing for 20 years.

00:19:39.240 All of a sudden, he's Darth Vader.

00:19:40.880 It is unfair.

00:19:41.880 It's a double standard.

00:19:42.640 It's hypocrisy.

00:19:43.880 I mean, if only Donald Trump could say those numbers the way you do, Larry.

00:19:47.100 That's not what's going to happen tomorrow night.

00:19:48.440 That's the problem.

00:19:49.440 It's Trump.

00:19:49.860 He's an effective messenger.

00:19:50.900 Don't get me wrong.

00:19:51.720 He got elected president, so you'd have to be.

00:19:54.120 Right.

00:19:54.520 But he can't do it the way you can do it.

00:19:56.420 Few of us can.

00:19:57.360 Well, you know, when I ran for president, I withdrew from the race, as you know, and Trump

00:20:04.600 invited me to Mar-a-Lago, so we're speaking privately.

00:20:07.500 And I told him much of what I just now told you, and he was entertained by it.

00:20:11.540 And I asked him, this is sort of off topic, I asked him, do you ever, three o'clock in

00:20:16.600 the morning, say to yourself, why the hell did I do this?

00:20:19.260 People now won't buy your condos.

00:20:21.460 They won't go to your golf resort.

00:20:22.700 Half the country hates your guts and thinks you're Hitler.

00:20:25.140 Your net worth has gone down because of all this.

00:20:27.900 You ever think to yourself, why did I do this?

00:20:29.440 And he went, well, you know, the country is in trouble, blah, blah, blah.

00:20:32.500 He didn't answer my question.

00:20:34.040 So I re-asked it a few minutes later.

00:20:35.520 He didn't answer.

00:20:36.000 We then stood up and took pictures together, and I said, you know, Mr. President, you didn't

00:20:39.320 answer my question.

00:20:39.980 He goes, yeah, I know I didn't.

00:20:41.540 Really?

00:20:42.020 So I think that that meant that even Donald Trump, as confident as he is, every now and

00:20:46.260 then says to himself, my goodness.

00:20:48.980 I also think Trump really is a believer that if there's any negative self-talk, it actualizes.

00:20:56.500 If you just listen to the way he communicates, certainly about anything involving himself or

00:21:00.640 his loved ones, he never says anything even close to negative.

00:21:06.180 It's baked into him from the power of positive thinking by Norman Vincent Peale, who was his

00:21:13.160 pastor when he was growing up.

00:21:14.120 On that level, I first had a real conversation with him in 2016.

00:21:18.780 We campaigned together.

00:21:20.180 We were at a black church.

00:21:21.740 It was in Detroit, if I'm not mistaken.

00:21:24.200 We had about a 20-minute conversation privately, and this is when he was a candidate, of course.

00:21:28.320 And I said, there's one thing I think you should apologize for.

00:21:33.140 He said, I know what you're going to say, what I said about John McCain.

00:21:35.620 I said, no, I couldn't care less.

00:21:37.560 I said, you said that George W. Bush got us into the Iraq war by lying.

00:21:42.220 I said, however you feel about the war, he did not lie.

00:21:44.880 The intelligence was bad.

00:21:45.900 He did not lie.

00:21:46.660 I've spoken with Condoleezza Rice privately.

00:21:48.540 I've spoken with Colin Powell privately, and they both said the intelligence was wrong,

00:21:52.440 but nobody lied.

00:21:53.600 And I said, you're giving a talking point that Democrats have used.

00:21:57.340 Ted Kennedy said, week after week after week, they lied and lied and lied.

00:22:00.320 You are giving energy to all of that.

00:22:02.240 And he went, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:22:04.500 But he never said it again.

00:22:05.980 And I noticed that Donald Trump's way of apologizing is not to say the same wrong-headed thing twice.

00:22:10.100 I'm going to take credit for that.

00:22:11.160 Oh, that's good.

00:22:12.100 All right, wait, we're going to get to the Iraq war in a second, in a way, because Dick Cheney's

00:22:15.640 back in the news.

00:22:16.180 I'm sure you saw that.

00:22:17.000 But let me finish with this.

00:22:18.240 This New York Times poll first.

00:22:20.740 This is sort of the headline that's coming out of it when it comes to minority voters,

00:22:24.740 with whom Kamala is doing better than Joe was, but not as well as your normal Democrat does.

00:22:33.500 So Trump's support among likely black voters, again, this is the New York Times-Siena gold

00:22:38.720 poll, his support among likely black voters.

00:22:42.900 Back in 2020, it was 7%.

00:22:47.480 In this poll, it's doubled to 14.

00:22:50.480 When it comes to Latino likely voters back in 2020, it was 31%.

00:22:55.340 In this poll, it's gone up 10 points, 41%.

00:22:59.460 And now the left, I mean, I've seen so many of them.

00:23:02.280 It could be an outlier, even the Times this morning.

00:23:04.400 This could be an outlier, could be an outlier.

00:23:06.780 You know, may not align.

00:23:07.560 That tightness of Trump up one instead of down three or four.

00:23:11.300 But do you think it's an outlier, doubling the black vote and up 10 percentage points

00:23:16.500 with Hispanics?

00:23:17.260 No.

00:23:17.520 He increased his percentage of black vote from 8% in 2016 to 12% in 2020.

00:23:22.360 That's almost a 50% increase.

00:23:24.180 And there are several reasons.

00:23:25.720 But the biggest reason, I believe, is illegal immigration.

00:23:29.740 The cohort most hurt by illegal aliens, and most of these are unskilled with high school

00:23:33.780 or less, are people living in the inner city, black and brown people, against whom they

00:23:38.560 have to compete for jobs.

00:23:39.760 There was a study done by the Civil Rights Commission some years ago.

00:23:42.960 This is before the 12 million illegal aliens had been in the country in the last three years.

00:23:46.600 About a million fewer blacks are working because of the presence of illegal alien labor.

00:23:50.060 And illegal alien labor puts downward pressure to the tune of almost $2,000 per year on

00:23:54.680 the salaries of blacks and brown people in the inner city.

00:23:57.060 So the people most hurt by all these people coming into the country are black and brown

00:24:00.520 people, the very people that the left claims that they care about.

00:24:02.840 The second big reason, of course, is the cost of living.

00:24:05.000 The people at the bottom are hurt the most by higher prices and store prices are up almost

00:24:10.020 20%.

00:24:10.640 Gas prices are up 50%.

00:24:12.240 And the third reason is school choice.

00:24:15.000 The Democrats are adamantly opposed to school choice.

00:24:17.340 Urban education in America is a disaster.

00:24:21.220 85% of black eighth graders, these are 13-year-old kids, Megan, nationwide can neither read nor do

00:24:26.200 math at grade level.

00:24:27.440 In Baltimore, there are 13 public high schools-

00:24:30.020 Can you just say that again?

00:24:30.560 Wait, just say that last stat one more time.

00:24:33.060 85% of black eighth graders nationwide, these are 13-year-old kids, can neither read nor do

00:24:37.800 math at grade level.

00:24:38.800 That is horrifying.

00:24:39.920 13 public high schools in Baltimore, all located in the inner city, 0% of the kids can do math

00:24:45.100 at grade level.

00:24:46.160 52, 53 public schools in Illinois, most of them in Chicago, 0% of the kids can do math

00:24:53.560 at grade level.

00:24:54.060 Now, what's outrageous about this is not just that the Democrat opposed the school choice

00:24:58.340 while the elites like Joe Biden and Barack Obama, Kamala Harris, have their own kids in

00:25:03.000 private school.

00:25:03.760 It's that teachers who teach in districts like Philadelphia, Chicago, LA, New York, who

00:25:09.460 have school-aged kids, don't put their own kids in the school.

00:25:12.980 That's right.

00:25:13.000 Of course not.

00:25:13.440 The people that know the school is the best don't put their own kids in it.

00:25:15.740 This is outrageous.

00:25:17.540 Half of black kids, 13-year-old, can't even do basic reading, which means half of them

00:25:21.560 are functionally illiterate in a digital economy.

00:25:25.980 Scotty, beam me up.

00:25:27.020 They just think it's fine because the teachers' union doesn't want change, and the teachers'

00:25:30.800 union is their biggest block of voters.

00:25:32.420 That's right.

00:25:32.920 So it's worth the sacrifice.

00:25:34.080 And biggest block of fundraisers, all the union money.

00:25:36.240 So it's fine.

00:25:36.700 It's fine if the black children suffer in schools.

00:25:38.480 It's fine if the black people kill themselves in Chicago, just as long as they keep voting

00:25:41.560 Democrat or not getting in the way of those who do.

00:25:43.920 And you mentioned Chicago.

00:25:45.480 Of course, we are all grieving over what happened in Georgia.

00:25:48.560 Four people killed, nine people hospitalized, 30 people injured.

00:25:52.500 But just over the Labor Day holiday, 50 people in Chicago were shot.

00:25:56.660 I forget how many were killed, like five to seven.

00:25:59.320 And Memorial Day weekend, over 100 people in Chicago shot, 17 killed.

00:26:03.960 And that's just Chicago.

00:26:04.960 And Chicago isn't even as deadly as Baltimore or St. Louis.

00:26:07.640 Nobody says a word about that.

00:26:10.320 Well, here's the other thing, Larry, is the father of this shooter, this 14-year-old shooter

00:26:14.840 down in Georgia, has been charged now.

00:26:17.500 And I actually have no problem with that because it looks like this guy actually did.

00:26:21.500 He literally put a loaded gun in the hand of...

00:26:23.440 I mean, when the FBI or the authorities come to your house and tell you that your kid has

00:26:27.260 been sending out emails saying he's going to shoot up at school, and then you buy him

00:26:30.240 an AR-15 and give it to him, what is that?

00:26:32.600 And now his father, the grandfather of the shooter, is blaming the son.

00:26:35.780 Sorry, it might be the in-law, but in any event, it's a grandfather of the shooter

00:26:39.200 is saying, there's no way this kid could have grown up in that guy's house without

00:26:42.900 turning into this.

00:26:43.840 Of course.

00:26:44.740 And all of which is fine by me.

00:26:46.940 I really think the parents should have some skin in the game when they behave like this.

00:26:49.760 However, you think any parent in Chicago is going to get charged?

00:26:53.440 A lot of them are just suffering.

00:26:54.760 I've gone out there and spoken with them.

00:26:56.320 But a lot of them actually are fine with it and understand fully well what their young

00:27:00.280 boys are doing with the guns and the gangs.

00:27:02.080 You know, and Megan, big picture.

00:27:04.100 60% of the shootings, the robberies, and homicides here in America are committed by

00:27:08.420 black people, often against other black people.

00:27:10.540 And the reason for this is the lack of fathers in the home.

00:27:13.480 70% of black kids today enter the world without a father in the home married to the mother.

00:27:17.260 40% of all American kids do.

00:27:19.180 25% of white kids do, which was the same percentage as was the case with blacks back in 1965 when

00:27:24.040 a Democrat, Lyndon Johnson, launched a so-called war on poverty.

00:27:26.760 And since then, we have spent over $20 trillion on anti-poverty programs.

00:27:31.240 What we've done is we've incentivized women to marry the government and incentivized men to

00:27:35.220 abandon their financial and moral responsibility.

00:27:37.200 And nobody's talking about that.

00:27:38.700 The other side doesn't do it because they caused it.

00:27:40.280 Our side doesn't do it for fear of being called racist or being insensitive to the

00:27:45.000 heroic job that single black women are doing raising kids.

00:27:47.740 Or if you're black, you'll be called, as I was called by the LA Times, the black face

00:27:50.580 of white supremacy.

00:27:51.380 So it's the number one social problem in America, and nobody's talking about it.

00:27:54.820 I mentioned it to Trump when I was having this meeting I told you about.

00:27:58.520 He promptly tweeted about it.

00:28:00.080 That was one of the lowest points in a couple of years when it comes to media fall downs,

00:28:04.780 calling you the black face of white supremacy.

00:28:06.260 Absolutely disgusting.

00:28:07.300 I worked hard for that title.

00:28:08.640 The badge of honor coming from them.

00:28:10.280 And by the way, the woman that called me that, her name is Erica D. Smith.

00:28:14.020 And when I finished my campaign for governor, I went back to radio to finish my contract,

00:28:18.320 and I invited her on my show.

00:28:20.180 I don't have fangs.

00:28:20.880 I'm not going to bite her.

00:28:21.940 Come on.

00:28:22.360 Come on my show.

00:28:22.900 Talk to me about what makes me the black face of white supremacy.

00:28:24.220 There's no way she did it.

00:28:24.900 She refused to do it.

00:28:25.720 You know, the LA Times is out right now saying, yes, California is suffering, and we have full

00:28:31.200 control by the Democrats.

00:28:32.180 But that, too, seems to be the Republican fault.

00:28:35.080 Like, why aren't they just better?

00:28:36.240 It's the Republicans' fault.

00:28:37.200 Somehow.

00:28:38.160 Okay.

00:28:38.720 For what?

00:28:39.620 Being just too awful for us to put you into office, and therefore we got stuck with only

00:28:44.120 Dems, and that's why California is in this pickle.

00:28:45.980 Right.

00:28:46.120 Okay, LA Times.

00:28:46.880 Right.

00:28:47.020 You mentioned immigration and how important it is to black and Latino voters and to all

00:28:51.280 voters.

00:28:51.700 I mean, it's truly, it's still polling.

00:28:53.400 It was the number one issue now since Biden has put in his artificial controls just in

00:28:57.980 order to win this election.

00:28:59.560 And the numbers aren't really going now.

00:29:01.040 Let's redefine what deportation is.

00:29:03.680 Yes.

00:29:04.060 So the numbers aren't any different at all.

00:29:05.840 But he's artificially depressing the numbers until-

00:29:07.900 He's gotten it off the headlines.

00:29:08.960 Exactly right.

00:29:09.520 And the media is so quick to-

00:29:11.040 That's the main thing.

00:29:11.640 But just keep this in mind.

00:29:13.000 Under Joe Biden, we've had 10.4 million illegals come in that we know about.

00:29:18.300 That's not including the gotaways.

00:29:19.640 10.4 million illegals.

00:29:21.800 Those are the official stats.

00:29:23.300 Right.

00:29:23.460 Under Trump, it was 2.3.

00:29:25.640 2.3 under Donald Trump in four years.

00:29:28.440 10.4 under Joe Biden.

00:29:31.100 Those are the numbers.

00:29:32.200 But anyway, on the immigration front, in the news today is what's happening in Springfield,

00:29:37.480 Ohio.

00:29:38.520 And it's gotten so bad there.

00:29:40.300 It's Haitian refugees going in Springfield, Ohio, to the point where residents held-

00:29:47.500 It may have been a town hall or was it a city council meeting.

00:29:52.200 And a bunch of people came and spoke out about the fact that this is a-

00:29:55.960 Just by background via the New York Times and the Daily Mail.

00:29:58.520 This is a shrinking Midwestern town.

00:30:00.760 The population dwindled to less than 60,000 in 2014 from more than 80,000 back in 1960.

00:30:07.060 And they really wanted to try to attract businesses and so on.

00:30:10.660 And yet, they've had more than 20,000 Haitians arrive, most of them since the pandemic.

00:30:17.680 They've got Social Security numbers.

00:30:19.600 They've got work permits, thanks to a federal program that offered them temporary protection in the United States.

00:30:25.200 I've got to tell you, I had a conversation with Omarosa Manninggalt, who told me she was the one who spearheaded a lot of this,

00:30:31.160 trying to get the Haitians to America, not blaming Omarosa entirely.

00:30:34.580 But I know she, even under Trump, had prioritized this.

00:30:37.160 What happened to her, by the way?

00:30:37.920 Yeah, I mean, she fell out with Trump, and that was the end of her.

00:30:39.980 But in any event, it's only gotten worse since the pandemic under Joe Biden, where we've opened the door to these people.

00:30:46.140 And now, you've got these residents showing up to speak out.

00:30:49.520 And listen to this one woman.

00:30:51.620 I think this is Glenda Bailey, the older woman, who's talking about what it's like to live there now.

00:30:57.560 Watch.

00:30:57.760 I'm done with what I'm seeing.

00:31:01.720 It is so unsafe in my neighborhood anymore.

00:31:04.840 I have the homeless that were trying to camp out, and I have made concessions with them,

00:31:09.720 and I try to help them the best I can to keep them from trying to squat on my property.

00:31:16.100 But it is so unsafe.

00:31:17.720 I have men that cannot speak English in my front yard screaming at me, throwing mattresses in my front yard,

00:31:25.160 throwing trash in my front yard.

00:31:26.860 Look at me.

00:31:27.640 I weigh 95 pounds.

00:31:28.960 I couldn't defend myself if I had to.

00:31:31.220 My husband is elderly.

00:31:32.520 And last night, after living in this home for 45 years, he said, Noel, guess what?

00:31:37.880 It's time to pack up and move.

00:31:39.780 He said, we can't do this anymore.

00:31:41.640 He said, it's killing both of us mentally.

00:31:43.760 I want out of this town.

00:31:45.500 I am sorry.

00:31:47.200 Please give me a reason to stay.

00:31:50.320 Okay, that was Noel, actually.

00:31:52.100 That's her first name.

00:31:53.080 The Springfield police dismissed claims the immigrants have caused trouble.

00:31:56.860 Saying property crime was only in line with national trends.

00:32:01.420 And the Deputy Director of Public Safety and Operations, Jason Villa, told NPR,

00:32:04.520 it's sad that some people are using this as an opportunity to spread hate or spread fear.

00:32:09.340 And suggested that we haven't seen some of the things that they're alleging.

00:32:14.080 Wow.

00:32:14.740 Like, I'll just give you one more.

00:32:17.200 He's claiming they haven't seen this from this particular individual.

00:32:21.760 But this is another person who showed up at the city council meeting.

00:32:25.380 And it's nothing but immigrants over there.

00:32:29.940 And I don't even want to, like, seem like I'm coming down on the immigrants because it's

00:32:33.620 the people that's bringing them down here.

00:32:35.040 Because wherever they're at, that's what they're used to, bro.

00:32:37.880 They're in the park grabbing up ducks by their neck and cutting their head off and walking

00:32:43.560 off with them and eating them.

00:32:47.640 So, not an explicit denial, but like a, we haven't seen it.

00:32:52.960 So, I guess we're just not supposed to believe Noelle or this gentleman.

00:32:55.960 As for Noelle, who says she would like to have a reason to stay, the bottom line is

00:33:00.640 that we're all border states now.

00:33:03.040 I remember about two years ago, there was a poll that asked the average American how

00:33:07.240 many illegal aliens had come into the country that year.

00:33:09.380 That year, there were 2.5 million.

00:33:11.280 The average answer was a quarter of a million.

00:33:13.280 They were off by a factor of 10.

00:33:14.720 Why?

00:33:15.060 Because most people aren't even aware of this because the media is not focusing on it.

00:33:19.360 I remember when Bill Malusian of Fox News was doing all these wonderful reports, drones

00:33:24.260 overhead showing all these illegal aliens coming in.

00:33:26.260 Then I cut it on to CNN, MSNBC, and for months, nothing.

00:33:31.100 It wasn't until governors like Abbott and DeSantis put illegal aliens on buses and sent

00:33:35.760 them to New York, Chicago, Martha's Vineyard, did the media even begin to paying attention

00:33:39.480 to this.

00:33:39.820 So, I think most people are unaware how bad it is.

00:33:42.140 I'm old enough to remember in 1980, during the latter part of the Jimmy Carter administration,

00:33:48.480 Castro sent about 100,000 illegal aliens here, and then about 25,000 Haitians joined them.

00:33:53.420 So, we had about 150,000 illegal aliens in the country coming in in one fell swoop, and

00:33:57.900 people went nuts.

00:33:59.360 Jimmy Carter did a 180.

00:34:00.660 At first, he said, we welcomed them with open hearts, open arms, and he realized people

00:34:04.100 were ticked off.

00:34:05.740 We're talking about 12 million people.

00:34:07.700 Jay Johnson, Obama's DHS secretary, once said, when he was DHS secretary, you know, every

00:34:13.160 day I get a report on how many illegal border crossings there were.

00:34:17.540 If it's under 500, I'm going to have a good day.

00:34:19.720 If it's over 500, I'm going to have a bad day.

00:34:21.520 We've been having 10,000 in one day.

00:34:24.000 He even said later on, during this administration, I can't imagine what that is like, 10,000 a

00:34:30.140 day.

00:34:31.440 So, most people are unaware of how bad it is, and the media is not covering it, and if they

00:34:38.360 knew how bad it was, they would run out of pitchfork.

00:34:41.660 People would be marching on Washington.

00:34:42.700 But they're banking on this artificial Band-Aid carrying the day.

00:34:47.280 They're banking on the fact that the border bill that they proposed got shot down, and

00:34:52.360 they're banking on abortion.

00:34:53.480 They're banking on abortion, which is now, thanks to all of their advertising, risen to

00:34:57.980 the second most important issue with voters, in particular Democrat voters, but there are

00:35:03.100 definitely some more moderate Republican women, and she's winning with women, who are worried

00:35:07.280 about this issue, who want the freedom to do what they want if they get pregnant, or their

00:35:10.800 daughters, and so on.

00:35:12.040 And this is being pushed at every turn, right?

00:35:14.280 And on this issue, she's the winner.

00:35:16.520 How do you think Trump should handle the abortion issue tomorrow night?

00:35:19.180 Well, let's talk about both those big things.

00:35:20.540 On the immigration bill that Trump allegedly shot down, there were a bunch of Republicans

00:35:26.520 that opposed that bill, A, and B, Trump secured the border in a more secure way than anybody

00:35:31.180 else without one iota from Congress, and Biden, on day one, began reversing those policies.

00:35:37.560 Undeared them all.

00:35:37.960 So you don't need Congress to reimpose the Trump policy.

00:35:41.160 So the whole thing is false.

00:35:43.420 It's a lie, and that's their big talking point.

00:35:45.940 Well, we had the toughest border bill until Donald Trump told Republicans to turn their

00:35:50.120 backs on it.

00:35:50.760 You didn't need to have the bill, even if that's true.

00:35:53.160 Regarding abortion, when I ran for governor, I was accused of being an abortion, a pro-life

00:35:59.020 extremist.

00:35:59.860 And I asked the reporters, please ask my opponent, Gavin Newsom, at what point does he feel a

00:36:05.120 pregnancy has gone so far that to terminate the life would constitute murder?

00:36:08.440 At what point?

00:36:09.320 And nobody asked him.

00:36:10.700 Democrats don't want to answer that question.

00:36:12.740 Kamala Harris was on, I think CBS, Margaret Brennan asked her that three times, and three

00:36:17.340 times she said, I want to put back the protection of Roe v. Wade.

00:36:20.120 Yeah, but is there a point beyond which I want to put that, they won't answer the question.

00:36:23.680 Every now and then you'll get somebody to answer it, as Bernie Sanders did during one of the

00:36:26.820 debates.

00:36:28.060 He says, up to a woman.

00:36:29.280 If that's true, the logical extension is Dr. Kermit Gosnell, the Philadelphia abortion

00:36:33.020 doctor, Kelly, should be set out of prison.

00:36:35.180 He performed late-term abortions.

00:36:36.660 He didn't hold them down and perform them against the will of the woman.

00:36:39.280 The woman asked for the abortion.

00:36:40.880 He's now behind bars for performing illegal late-term abortions.

00:36:43.860 So the logical extension of how you feel, really, is that Dr. Kermit Gosnell is a political

00:36:47.920 prisoner who should be set free?

00:36:49.300 Is that your position?

00:36:50.160 We don't know, because they won't say.

00:36:52.160 There is an ongoing debate in some states, even about what happens when you attempt to

00:36:57.200 abort a baby, and it nonetheless is born alive.

00:37:00.580 Survives, yes.

00:37:00.800 The left will tell you this is not, this never happens, and it's not a debate, and Trump

00:37:05.760 is wrong to bring it up, but in more and more states where they try to ban this, where they

00:37:10.680 try to say, you can't do that, you can't let the infant just die on the table, you actually

00:37:14.340 have to give it life-saving care, the left pushes back and says, no, we don't.

00:37:18.060 That, too, is up to the mother and the doctor.

00:37:19.840 So this baby that they tried to kill in utero is born anyway, and now it's on the table,

00:37:24.300 suffering, but still alive.

00:37:25.520 And these people want to say, the mother, at that point, should be able to say, let it

00:37:31.200 suffer and die.

00:37:31.800 That's how extreme these guys are.

00:37:33.180 The bill that Governor Walz signed allows abortion up to the moment of birth, the most extreme

00:37:39.120 one that I can think of, and nobody talks about it.

00:37:43.240 And all the reversal of Roe v. Wade was is to put it back to the states where it was for

00:37:48.900 the entire history of our country until 1973.

00:37:50.740 Yes, that's it.

00:37:51.340 It's now back to the electoral process.

00:37:53.200 In California, as I said, when people asked me about this, I said, in California, what

00:37:57.520 anti-abortion bill is going to come on my desk?

00:38:00.120 Zero chance of it happening.

00:38:01.400 So wherever you live, you live in a left-wing state, nothing will happen.

00:38:04.280 The only party talking about doing something nationally on this issue are the Democrats.

00:38:09.420 It's the Democrat party.

00:38:10.920 Trump has said, I'm not going to touch it.

00:38:12.680 I will not be doing this as president.

00:38:14.500 I'm going to let it sit in the states, because every state is very different.

00:38:17.260 As you know, you live in California.

00:38:19.800 I've got friends who live in Tennessee.

00:38:21.120 Those two states will handle this issue very differently, because we're each a little experiment

00:38:25.100 of democracy and culture.

00:38:27.080 And that's the way the founders intended it.

00:38:28.460 And if you don't like the rules in California, you don't have to live here.

00:38:31.700 Kamala Harris shouldn't be able to set the policy for all 50 states.

00:38:34.000 And by the way, she can't.

00:38:35.380 This is not a federal issue.

00:38:36.540 I don't think she'd be allowed to.

00:38:37.800 I think it would be struck down as unconstitutional if she tried to implement it.

00:38:40.260 Antonin Scalia, arguably one of the most conservative justices in recent memory, gave an interview

00:38:44.500 once.

00:38:44.760 He said, I don't know anything about abortion.

00:38:46.540 I never studied that in law school.

00:38:48.380 All I know is that it ought to be up to the democratic process and to the voters in every

00:38:52.500 individual state.

00:38:53.420 I don't know.

00:38:54.380 He used to say that all the time about a lot of issues.

00:38:56.820 Like, why would you leave it to nine judges in black robes to come up with rules on abortion

00:39:03.120 or any of these other issues?

00:39:04.560 It's exactly right.

00:39:05.540 Put it in the people's hands.

00:39:06.540 And that means the people that we elect on a state-by-state basis.

00:39:09.420 Trump's got to get better at articulating that.

00:39:11.860 On the New York Times poll, this is another interesting question.

00:39:16.480 Do you think Trump is too conservative, not conservative enough, or not too far either

00:39:20.540 way?

00:39:21.820 Not too far either way got 49%.

00:39:24.500 Only 32% said that he is too conservative.

00:39:28.840 How about Kamala Harris?

00:39:29.780 Too liberal slash progressive, not enough, or not too far either way?

00:39:34.140 Too liberal or progressive, 47%.

00:39:37.020 Only 9% said not enough, and not too far either way had 41%, which was a decent number, but

00:39:43.340 not as high as 47%.

00:39:44.620 So what's happening here is that the Project 2025 thing, Larry, is not working against

00:39:50.680 him, and her attempt to be generic Democrat with no positions that are controversial, and

00:39:57.560 oh, I've reversed all of my controversial positions in a paper statement, isn't working.

00:40:02.820 The American populace is smart.

00:40:04.460 And the people that feel that she's too left-wing probably are unaware of many of the things

00:40:09.800 that she said that are left-wing.

00:40:10.880 For example, she once suggested that we ought to ban the sale of gas-powered cars by the

00:40:15.160 year 2035.

00:40:16.780 She once said illegal aliens should get health care.

00:40:19.340 She once supported legislation to set up a commission to study reparations.

00:40:23.320 She once wanted a national minimum income.

00:40:28.160 She once said that we ought to reimagine the police.

00:40:30.640 We ought to rethink ICE.

00:40:32.220 We rethink ICE from the ground up.

00:40:33.800 But she said so many wacky things that most people have no blooming idea about.

00:40:37.800 Being in the country illegally ought not to be a crime.

00:40:39.660 Are you kidding me?

00:40:40.840 So if people really knew some of the wacky stuff that she said, that number would be even

00:40:45.200 higher.

00:40:46.000 It's even dumber than that.

00:40:47.320 She said it's not a crime, being in the country.

00:40:49.480 Well, it is if they crossed over the southern border or another border illegally, madam.

00:40:52.140 By definition.

00:40:52.940 That's why they're called illegal.

00:40:54.000 Yes, it is.

00:40:54.500 She's treating them all like they were like, oh, your friend from England came for a visit

00:40:58.340 and he stayed two days extra, right?

00:41:00.360 Like, no, that's not a crime.

00:41:01.740 And she wants a pathway to citizenship for all the people who are here before the 10,

00:41:06.460 12 million people came here, plus those.

00:41:08.320 And Nancy Pelosi just said this.

00:41:09.980 She just said this on Bill Maher, that she wants them all in the connection with this

00:41:13.600 crazy California bill that was so radical.

00:41:15.320 Even Gavin Newsom wouldn't sign it, trying to give them $150,000 toward a new home.

00:41:21.760 And Nancy Pelosi was asked about it by Bill Maher, and she was like, well, I want, how

00:41:25.240 can we give this to undocumented immigrants, he asked.

00:41:27.520 And she was like, well, I want them all to be documented.

00:41:29.220 That's a mainstream Democrat position.

00:41:30.880 And speaking of being candid, you've got Bernie Sanders on one of the talk shows being asked

00:41:34.900 about Kamala Harris flip-flopping.

00:41:36.380 Oh, we have this.

00:41:37.160 Well, let me play it, and then you take it on the back end.

00:41:39.000 Let's watch the Bernie Sanders come.

00:41:40.780 She has previously supported Medicare for All now.

00:41:44.420 She does not.

00:41:45.180 She's previously supported a ban on fracking.

00:41:47.540 Now she does not.

00:41:49.360 These, Senator, are ideas that you have campaigned on.

00:41:53.060 Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals?

00:41:58.560 No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals.

00:42:01.640 I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the

00:42:06.920 election.

00:42:07.720 I love it when I hear honesty.

00:42:09.260 Yeah.

00:42:09.820 It's so soothing.

00:42:11.020 Well, and essentially, that's what Kamala Harris said.

00:42:13.280 I haven't changed my values.

00:42:14.460 Right.

00:42:14.920 I may have changed the way I articulate them.

00:42:17.200 I haven't changed my values.

00:42:18.120 Wink, wink.

00:42:18.540 And here he is saying that, no, she hasn't changed anything.

00:42:20.620 She's being pragmatic to say what's necessary to get elected, and then I'll do all this stuff.

00:42:26.000 Yeah.

00:42:26.300 We know.

00:42:27.020 We can see that.

00:42:27.720 And she had the most left-wing record in 2019 of any senator, according to GovTrack, of

00:42:33.400 any senator in the last two years, including Bernie Sanders, and then GovTrack removed

00:42:37.900 it from their website.

00:42:39.160 Yeah.

00:42:39.520 That's exactly right.

00:42:40.460 Yeah.

00:42:40.960 All right.

00:42:41.220 So on the subject, back to the Iraq war, Dick Cheney.

00:42:45.240 I mean, is there a more loathed figure on the left, or has there been, than Dick Cheney,

00:42:53.100 right?

00:42:53.560 Well, Trump.

00:42:54.220 Before Trump.

00:42:54.800 Yeah.

00:42:54.900 But I'm just saying, like, he was their boogeyman.

00:42:57.400 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:57.760 And now his daughter has come out and said that both she and the dad will be voting for

00:43:03.760 Kamala Harris, and now it is like the second coming.

00:43:08.040 They are so excited about Dick Cheney.

00:43:11.200 He's like, oh, he's basically a statesman.

00:43:13.740 Hold on.

00:43:14.060 I want to get, here's what he said, first of all.

00:43:16.760 Because first Liz Cheney said it in an interview.

00:43:18.660 He's going to vote for Kamala and so am I.

00:43:21.420 And then Dick Cheney puts out a statement saying, there's never been an individual who

00:43:25.960 is a greater threat to our Republican than Donald Trump.

00:43:27.940 He tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power.

00:43:31.920 We have a duty to put country above partisanship to defend our Constitution.

00:43:36.640 And that is why I'm casting my vote for Kamala Harris.

00:43:41.220 Bush, his boss, George W. Bush, says he's not going to endorse any candidate this race.

00:43:45.360 Back in 2020, he wrote in Condoleezza Rice's name in 2016.

00:43:48.440 He did not vote for Trump or Clinton.

00:43:49.960 And here's some of the legacy media reaction.

00:43:52.820 MSNBC headline, GOP icon.

00:43:56.980 Dick Cheney calls Trump a threat, votes for Harris.

00:43:59.840 USA Today, they're the worst.

00:44:01.740 Honestly, I don't think, I think even the Washington Post is not as left as USA Today.

00:44:05.660 Dick Cheney picks Kamala Harris, giving conservatives a final path to save the GOP from Trump.

00:44:12.180 How is this giving the conservatives a path?

00:44:14.380 They've been arguing this more and more, though.

00:44:15.840 The GOP needs to lose with Trump in order to learn their lesson about how bad he is.

00:44:18.700 New York Times, it potentially helps create a model for deeply conservative voters reluctant to back Mr. Trump to vote for a Democrat for the first time in their lives.

00:44:26.620 No, New York Times, it doesn't.

00:44:28.920 These people don't understand the right half of the country at all.

00:44:32.120 Notice the very different reaction when RFK Jr. came out and supported Trump.

00:44:35.960 They didn't say, RFK Jr., a scion of the most important Democrat family in American history.

00:44:41.540 Nothing. They completely ignored it.

00:44:43.100 The icon. The Democrat icon.

00:44:45.460 They called him a nutcase.

00:44:46.400 Yeah.

00:44:46.940 It reminds me of when Ronald Reagan died.

00:44:48.740 All of a sudden, the same people that hated Ronald Reagan's guts for calling him a statesman and honoring his death and all that stuff.

00:44:56.240 That's what they do.

00:44:57.500 And they hate Dick Cheney.

00:44:59.340 They despise Dick Cheney.

00:45:00.180 But because Dick Cheney has now come out and said he wants to support Harris.

00:45:03.380 Suppose he come out and said, I want to support Trump.

00:45:05.000 What do you think they would have done?

00:45:05.960 Oh, yeah.

00:45:06.600 We would not be hearing the term GOP icon.

00:45:08.700 Icon.

00:45:08.960 Here's just a little flashback on how they used to talk about Dick Cheney.

00:45:13.260 Watch.

00:45:15.000 Vice President Cheney's been the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history.

00:45:19.580 To have had somebody that radical in the vice presidency for eight years.

00:45:24.140 How does that affect the party?

00:45:25.700 When George W. Bush left office, his approval rating was 22 percent.

00:45:29.920 But Dick Cheney's was 13 percent.

00:45:32.880 Herpes was more popular than Dick Cheney when he left office.

00:45:35.400 Dick Cheney is the concentrated distillate left in the bong water.

00:45:39.240 He is everything America most hates and most hated about Republican radicalism in those years.

00:45:45.280 It all went through him.

00:45:46.980 You can always tell when the Republicans are restless because the vice president's motorcade pulls into the Capitol.

00:45:55.560 And Darth Vader emerges.

00:45:59.940 Darth Vader.

00:46:01.280 Herpes.

00:46:02.120 Herpes.

00:46:02.820 And with Cheney, I believe it's personal.

00:46:05.440 His daughter was stomped by the Trump-backed candidate during the primary.

00:46:11.200 She lost by almost 40 points.

00:46:12.900 Yeah, 37 points.

00:46:13.240 She lost by more points than any other incumbent running for re-election during a primary.

00:46:18.860 In fact, I was with a woman who beat her once.

00:46:20.580 And I said, you beat her like 38 points.

00:46:23.260 She said 40.

00:46:23.800 So it's personal.

00:46:26.000 It was bad.

00:46:26.600 Yeah.

00:46:26.900 You know, it's interesting because there was a moment on Fox News when I had Dick Cheney on.

00:46:30.880 It was actually an incredible moment because people ask me, do you ever get nervous when you're interviewing somebody?

00:46:36.020 And honestly, this is one of the only ones that comes to mind.

00:46:38.060 I actually was nervous because Dick Cheney used to be kind of scary.

00:46:41.320 And he was coming on that night with Liz Cheney.

00:46:45.140 They were going to announce some initiative that they were pushing jointly.

00:46:47.820 And that morning, the gall, like the hubris, he dropped an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal blaming Barack Obama for the Iraq War.

00:46:57.960 Okay.

00:46:58.360 You can blame a lot on Barack Obama.

00:47:00.260 The Iraq War is not one of them.

00:47:02.200 Obama opposed it.

00:47:03.140 That's how he became president.

00:47:04.300 Yeah.

00:47:04.540 That was one of his main policy decisions.

00:47:05.820 You take that away.

00:47:06.360 He's not president.

00:47:07.180 So.

00:47:07.660 That was his biggest distinction between him and Hillary.

00:47:09.460 So Dick Cheney drops an op-ed blaming Barack Obama for the Iraq War.

00:47:14.500 And I understood that the beginning of my interview with Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney was going to have to change dramatically.

00:47:20.300 And watch this.

00:47:21.620 And I will tell you, I do think, you can hear I was a little nervous, but I will submit, if you hear in his answer, he was too once he heard the question.

00:47:30.400 Watch.

00:47:32.120 In your op-ed, you write as follows.

00:47:33.880 Quote, rarely has a U.S. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many.

00:47:40.460 But time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in Iraq, sir.

00:47:44.480 You said there was no doubt Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

00:47:48.440 You said we would be greeted as liberators.

00:47:50.400 You said the Iraq insurgency was in the last throes back in 2005.

00:47:54.200 And you said that after our intervention, extremists would have to, quote, rethink their strategy of jihad.

00:48:00.800 Now, with almost a trillion dollars spent there, with 4,500 American lives lost there,

00:48:06.100 what do you say to those who say you were so wrong about so much at the expense of so many?

00:48:13.380 No, I just fundamentally disagree, Megan.

00:48:17.920 You've got to go back and look at the track record.

00:48:21.180 We inherited a situation where there was no doubt in anybody's mind about the extent of Saddam's involvement in weapons of mass destruction.

00:48:30.520 The left was melting down over that op-ed.

00:48:34.680 And now he's their hero.

00:48:36.620 And all you have to say is Trump's a demon.

00:48:39.480 Trump's an existential threat.

00:48:40.860 And then he's embraced.

00:48:44.740 Does it change a single vote, Liz Cheney?

00:48:46.800 She called Trump advanced misogynistic pigs.

00:48:49.600 Does it change a single vote?

00:48:51.340 Do endorsements change anything, really, in the long run?

00:48:55.060 I don't think so.

00:48:56.260 Will the RFK Jr. endorsement of Donald Trump change the minds of Democrats?

00:48:59.660 Maybe.

00:49:00.040 Maybe in swing states.

00:49:00.800 I don't really know.

00:49:01.440 But I think Dick Cheney has not said anything at all about Donald Trump in years.

00:49:05.680 George W. Bush hasn't said anything in years.

00:49:07.660 They're irrelevant right now.

00:49:08.960 And so I don't think it's going to matter one way or the other.

00:49:10.540 I wonder whether ABC knows that or whether this is getting incorporated into a question right now.

00:49:16.000 Right.

00:49:16.260 I bet we will hear the name Cheney tomorrow night.

00:49:18.920 Larry, what a pleasure.

00:49:20.260 Thank you so much for coming in.

00:49:21.260 My pleasure.

00:49:21.660 It's wonderful to see you again.

00:49:22.700 Thank you.

00:49:23.560 Okay.

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00:50:24.920 Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:50:26.400 Joining me in person right here at the SiriusXM studios in Los Angeles.

00:50:31.260 One of my favorite guests and one of my favorite people.

00:50:33.980 Someone who has great takes on the news always and makes us laugh at the same time.

00:50:38.520 The one and only Adam Carolla.

00:50:40.380 He's host of The Adam Carolla Show podcast and he joins me in person here.

00:50:44.480 Welcome back.

00:50:45.500 Thanks for having me.

00:50:46.220 Great to see you.

00:50:47.320 We left off with Larry Elder talking about Dick Cheney and how he's now the second coming, according to the left.

00:50:52.380 They love Dick Cheney now.

00:50:54.100 Glenn Greenwald just had a tweet that reads as follows.

00:50:56.680 If literal Adolf Hitler were found alive and said bad things about Trump, he'd have a popular afternoon show on MSNBC within weeks and a regular stint on Morning Joe.

00:51:06.760 Yeah, it is kind of interesting.

00:51:09.020 Oh, Larry Elder, the black face of white supremacy.

00:51:12.020 That's right.

00:51:12.560 That's right.

00:51:13.300 Man.

00:51:13.880 The Times has told us all.

00:51:14.900 That scares me.

00:51:16.080 Yeah, with all this racism.

00:51:19.200 So listen, they don't care.

00:51:22.020 And it's something I've been thinking about a lot.

00:51:24.640 I mean, the left doesn't care.

00:51:25.880 Like, remember when Don't Say Gay Bill came out, right?

00:51:29.720 And they were like, don't say gay is the whole bill.

00:51:31.660 And then 10 minutes later, like, yeah, we're moving on.

00:51:34.900 So they don't really care.

00:51:36.120 Like, they, you know, they love Dick Cheney now that he's, you know, not going to support Trump.

00:51:42.000 They called him a, you know, murder, you know, 10 minutes before that.

00:51:45.700 They really don't care what they're on to or off to.

00:51:49.840 You know, J.D. Vance is a weird guy.

00:51:52.060 He's weird.

00:51:52.700 And then they're done.

00:51:54.080 Yeah.

00:51:54.300 You know, so whatever the hot thing is, they'll jump on and they'll jump off.

00:52:00.580 Well, that's like Kamala finally updated her website to have some policies on it, which is wonderful because people are starting early voting in Pennsylvania in, I think, eight days.

00:52:12.920 And all throughout the website, it's her supposed position on something.

00:52:18.800 And then Trump's 2025, Trump's Project 2025 plans to the point where I said to my staff, are they espousing Trump's actual positions or the 2025 project positions?

00:52:30.220 Because those are two very different things.

00:52:32.240 It's something he's disavowed many times.

00:52:34.420 And it's a mix.

00:52:36.200 So she's intentionally confusing the issue, right?

00:52:38.020 But they don't care.

00:52:38.840 There's not a tether to honesty.

00:52:41.960 Yeah.

00:52:42.100 Well, the thing that's, you know, disingenuous on their behalf is there is no footage of Trump saying, I'm down with the 2025 cause and then him circling back and changing his mind.

00:52:57.480 There's none of that.

00:52:58.100 There's tons of footage of Kamala Harris saying, I'm against fracking.

00:53:02.200 I want all electric cars by, you know, 2035.

00:53:05.600 Whatever's going on, nobody's illegal.

00:53:08.000 So on and so forth.

00:53:08.600 Like, there's plenty of high def footage of her in her 50s saying these things.

00:53:14.040 Yes, right.

00:53:14.520 There's zero of Trump saying, I'm back the 2025 project.

00:53:20.100 Yet he backs it and she is disavowed all her stuff and doesn't need to be held accountable for it.

00:53:27.420 So I don't think they believe it.

00:53:30.400 I'm not sure.

00:53:31.620 I'm now kind of at the point where I'm like, I don't really think they think this.

00:53:35.500 I think they, you know, good people on both sides or Haitian, Haitian men being beaten by border patrol on horseback.

00:53:42.800 I don't think they just say it.

00:53:45.060 Yep.

00:53:45.360 So they don't really think it, which is kind of sad.

00:53:49.460 But the same media recently, this weekend, acted like Jesus himself had visited the spice store.

00:53:57.660 I don't know if you saw any of this video, but you're going to enjoy this.

00:53:59.880 Okay, so Kamala Harris in Pittsburgh goes to this spice store.

00:54:07.440 It's Penzi's.

00:54:08.860 And so she did one of those prearranged stops where the cameras just happened to catch her dealing with people inside the shop.

00:54:16.300 And it was absolutely pathetic.

00:54:19.380 Someone was crying and they tried to make Kamala look like Mamala Kamala, you know, the comforter in chief.

00:54:26.420 Just watch some of this.

00:54:27.140 Watch this.

00:54:29.880 What is that about?

00:54:33.120 What is that about?

00:54:34.900 I think you understand.

00:54:36.680 I'm sure you know.

00:54:38.380 Oh, it's going to be good.

00:54:40.100 We're going to be good.

00:54:41.120 We're going to be fine.

00:54:42.560 We're going to be fine.

00:54:43.820 We are all in this together.

00:54:45.520 Yes, we are.

00:54:46.100 We're going to be fine.

00:54:47.020 Yes, we are.

00:54:47.700 Yes, we are.

00:54:48.760 Yes, we are.

00:54:49.400 Yes, we are.

00:54:49.500 You're so good.

00:54:50.280 I'm not a best person.

00:54:51.620 Oh, it's all good.

00:54:53.980 It's all good.

00:54:54.840 We're standing strong, right?

00:54:56.800 We love our country, right?

00:54:58.460 Absolutely.

00:54:58.940 I'm a lawyer in Pittsburgh here, and I just admire your work so much.

00:55:03.120 Good for you.

00:55:03.380 What can I allow you back?

00:55:04.280 Consumer protection.

00:55:05.380 Good for you.

00:55:05.800 I'm protecting consumers.

00:55:06.860 Good for you.

00:55:07.180 You know, that's the work I did as AG.

00:55:08.900 That's good stuff.

00:55:09.800 Yes, yes, yes.

00:55:10.080 That's really good.

00:55:11.000 Will you deliver a message to your teacher?

00:55:13.000 And you're going to have to say, the vice president asked me to deliver this message.

00:55:16.800 Okay, here's the message.

00:55:17.840 Thank you for being a teacher.

00:55:19.680 Will you do that to me?

00:55:20.960 Okay.

00:55:21.400 High five.

00:55:22.160 There we go.

00:55:23.600 All right.

00:55:24.580 Let me just give you a representative take from the left.

00:55:28.240 Katie Fang, MSNBC.

00:55:29.620 She has her own show.

00:55:30.240 Take a moment to appreciate the kindness and humanity, to comfort a total stranger, to encourage

00:55:36.200 a young lawyer, to express gratitude to a teacher, and to inspire a new generation of

00:55:41.720 leaders and the best to reassure them that we are all in this together.

00:55:47.720 Another, okay, Washington Post decided to tell us exactly what spices she bought, because

00:55:53.120 that's exciting to know, just in case you wanted to know, it was Tuscan Sunset Salt-Free

00:55:56.540 Italian Seasoning, among others.

00:55:58.860 And then you've got CNN's Bakari Sellers.

00:56:01.600 Trump probably wouldn't let the lady touch him.

00:56:03.740 And Vance has the compassion of a potato.

00:56:06.440 I don't remember, Adam, this kind of fawning coverage when Vivek Ramaswamy comforted a woman

00:56:11.340 who was near tears, who was really scared about what's happening to our republic on the campaign

00:56:14.880 trail, when Trump left the stump to go make sure somebody had fainted in the crowd.

00:56:19.500 Just recently, I think it was post-assassination attempt, to make sure that she was okay, and

00:56:23.460 that she got Kamala Harris.

00:56:24.620 It was.

00:56:24.920 It was post-assass.

00:56:25.680 Kamala Harris, that happened in her rally?

00:56:27.100 Nothing.

00:56:27.500 She didn't go down to comfort her.

00:56:29.100 But he and Vance, they're potatoes.

00:56:31.100 They don't understand compassion.

00:56:33.140 It's strange to me that the media never learned their lesson from the last round.

00:56:39.020 I think after the last election, the plan was, all right, listen, you're, you know,

00:56:44.720 you're bleeding viewers, tack back toward the center, try to be a little more even-handed

00:56:50.160 and see if you can scratch back some of your reputation.

00:56:53.800 Because I wouldn't listen to MSNBC or CNN or LA Times or New York Times if they said something

00:56:59.980 now, I'd just be like, unless they were talking about an earthquake or a tsunami.

00:57:03.320 Yeah.

00:57:03.580 But then they'd say Trump caused the earthquake.

00:57:05.580 Right.

00:57:06.140 So then I wouldn't believe him again.

00:57:07.180 But it's weird that they're still fawning and that they, no one got the message that

00:57:13.920 you're not supposed to come across this way.

00:57:17.760 Meaning, I, you know, if I was a dad and I volunteered to umpire my kids literally game

00:57:24.460 and then my son was pitching, I would be, I'd be rooting for my son to throw strikes.

00:57:30.720 But if he bounced one to home plate, I wouldn't call it a strike because I'd be worried about

00:57:35.220 the optics and other parents looking at me going, maybe that guy isn't calling balls

00:57:41.360 and strikes.

00:57:42.100 Maybe he's a fan of his son who's on the pitcher's mound.

00:57:45.100 So I don't get why they do that.

00:57:46.740 But a bigger picture and a bigger problem, um, is the currency we're giving to compassion.

00:57:56.140 It's ridiculous.

00:57:57.280 It shouldn't have anything to do with running for office or being in a leadership position.

00:58:02.900 I mean, the reason Los Angeles is an S show in terms of the homelessness is because we

00:58:10.600 decided to treat them with dignity and compassion.

00:58:13.840 That was our move.

00:58:15.140 We went, we're not going to go tell these people they have to get up or go into a shelter

00:58:19.220 or pull them, whatever.

00:58:20.500 And we worked a sort of mamala route with homelessness and they did it in Portland.

00:58:27.200 They do it in every progressive city.

00:58:28.660 We're going to, we're going to treat criminals with compassion and dignity.

00:58:32.180 We're going to treat, you know, we're going to be, um, a sanctuary city.

00:58:36.820 No one's illegal.

00:58:38.120 We're going to have compassion.

00:58:39.460 We're going to have a, and then it immediately turns into an S show because we have no infrastructure

00:58:44.620 to support that.

00:58:46.100 Well, and honestly, tell Lake and Riley's family about how compassionate it is to let these

00:58:50.600 illegals in.

00:58:51.200 Well, yeah.

00:58:52.060 So the idea that we're putting this premium on who seems to be nicer is ridiculous because

00:59:01.460 all we want is some middle East, you know, we, we, we, we want some middle East peace.

00:59:07.980 We want to, with a stout border, we want to lower interest rates, you know, it's all nuts

00:59:13.560 and bolts.

00:59:14.120 It's not hugs and teddy bears.

00:59:16.280 Right.

00:59:16.700 And also I don't trust these people at all.

00:59:19.660 Okay.

00:59:20.820 Um, remember Ellen started her show?

00:59:23.800 Yeah.

00:59:24.300 The dancing.

00:59:24.980 Yeah.

00:59:25.220 Turn out.

00:59:25.760 She didn't do so much dancing as soon as she got, she was a bully.

00:59:28.960 Okay.

00:59:29.500 She danced.

00:59:31.480 Remember the Bill Cosby show?

00:59:34.360 Oh, he was a big dancer too.

00:59:37.140 It's true.

00:59:37.860 Somebody sent me yesterday, a tweet, a picture, and I think it was, uh, Newsweek.

00:59:45.240 Oh, it could have been time magazine or whatever.

00:59:47.560 Big, 1994, big picture of Rosie O'Donnell wearing pastels.

00:59:52.500 And it said like the queen of nice.

00:59:54.340 And she was like, Oh wow.

00:59:56.120 Yeah.

00:59:56.960 So all the laughing, I mean, think about it.

01:00:01.460 Come on here.

01:00:02.200 It's like picture, picture Rosie and her first iteration.

01:00:07.860 Daytime TV, mid nineties.

01:00:09.640 Oh, cutie patootie chub club.

01:00:11.620 Yeah.

01:00:11.760 I love Tom Cruise.

01:00:13.340 A league of their own version.

01:00:14.500 Right.

01:00:14.720 Then picture, picture Ellen, picture Bill Cosby.

01:00:19.780 Now think Kamala Harris.

01:00:21.740 That is so true.

01:00:25.620 Like picture that.

01:00:27.460 What is she?

01:00:28.100 Well, didn't, I don't know what the stats are.

01:00:30.680 Out of 93 staff members, 89 of them quit or moved on or whatever.

01:00:35.900 Is that Mrs. loves to, how could you be that compassionate, that warm, that friendly, that

01:00:42.660 gregarious and have 93% of your staff move on?

01:00:48.820 That is so true.

01:00:50.220 That is at least with Trump, you know what you're getting.

01:00:52.820 No one's surprised to learn Trump may be short with people behind the scenes who don't do

01:00:56.560 what he wants.

01:00:57.260 Yes.

01:00:57.540 But she's just dropped an ad trying to bring up, oh, none of his people endorse him.

01:01:01.780 But with her, it's, oh, she's Mamala.

01:01:04.840 Look how fun she is.

01:01:06.220 She's so warm.

01:01:07.240 She's brat.

01:01:08.240 I don't see the renewed reporting on how all of her staff is left in tears because she wouldn't

01:01:13.620 do the work.

01:01:14.120 And then she blamed all of them.

01:01:16.000 Yes.

01:01:16.300 I'm just saying, beware of the dancers.

01:01:20.100 Beware of the big laughers on camera.

01:01:23.300 Yes.

01:01:24.120 Here's, oh, by the way, this is making the rounds.

01:01:26.640 There's some clip of her complaining about her lipstick going on the Starbucks white lids

01:01:30.900 when she drinks the coffee.

01:01:32.460 And it's, again, like her weird, over-the-top laughter.

01:01:36.720 And honestly, to me, it plays right into the left's always looking for a way to be victims.

01:01:41.540 Watch this.

01:01:43.400 So you know how those lids are, because this is, well, somebody added the jury cycle.

01:01:49.440 So you know how those lids on the Starbucks cups, they're white, right?

01:01:53.320 And so if you wear lipstick, they get all over the lid.

01:01:57.540 And so then I find myself in meetings if I'm the only woman, and that's kind of, and so

01:02:01.560 I keep taking the lid off and having my cup out so that I don't have that big lipstick

01:02:05.760 mark on the lid.

01:02:08.160 So I said, can we do something about the color of the lid?

01:02:17.840 So that was that conversation.

01:02:20.400 Oh, my God.

01:02:21.340 That was originally back at Spelman College in 2018, and obviously made a spoof out of it.

01:02:27.540 Yeah, I've really been studying overtly, over-the-top, nice people and realizing a lot of them miss

01:02:40.000 and lack character, and they're making bad decisions.

01:02:43.780 Like I said, I feel it being a citizen of Los Angeles, because we do the nice thing, but

01:02:50.720 it's not the right thing.

01:02:52.380 You know what I mean?

01:02:52.820 We're sort of like, oh, let the kid eat the sugar smacks for breakfast, and then the dad

01:02:58.500 goes, he needs a poached egg and wheat toast, you know?

01:03:01.960 And they go, oh, Mr. Meany, you know what I mean?

01:03:04.460 But the kid's getting fat.

01:03:05.720 Yeah, right.

01:03:06.880 That's what I'm saying.

01:03:07.920 That's right.

01:03:08.200 We need to tack back toward a little more of a, you know, drill sergeant, football coach,

01:03:17.140 like a little, you know?

01:03:19.660 Yeah.

01:03:20.060 We're going to sweat on the mat.

01:03:22.780 This is a dojo thing.

01:03:24.700 Sweat on the mat so you don't have to bleed in the street.

01:03:27.480 Yeah.

01:03:27.960 That kind of stuff.

01:03:28.740 I, too, I have the same reaction when somebody's over-the-top friendly toward me, because there's

01:03:32.980 no way that's genuine.

01:03:34.220 That's not how people are built.

01:03:35.740 So it's like, why are you having to pretend?

01:03:37.880 What's really in your heart?

01:03:39.760 I mean, not to bring Bill O'Reilly into it, but I will give him credit.

01:03:43.960 You used to sit down on his set, and I'd say, how you doing, Bill?

01:03:47.540 And you'd go, I'm the same, Kelly.

01:03:49.660 The same.

01:03:51.140 Kelly, at least he used your, oh, yeah, yeah, your last name, right.

01:03:54.400 That was just the way he did it.

01:03:55.460 Yeah, I know.

01:03:55.720 I was like, oh, you know, what's going on, Corolla?

01:03:57.560 No.

01:03:58.220 Yeah.

01:03:58.680 All right, here we go.

01:03:59.540 That's it.

01:04:00.140 I mean, you-

01:04:00.780 Do it live!

01:04:01.560 You kind of appreciate, you know, there's no attempt to really hide one's actual nature.

01:04:06.960 Well, I mean, it's interesting philosophical discussion.

01:04:11.220 You know, like, I like you a lot.

01:04:14.140 I assume you like me, but I don't feel the necessity to be bubbly and win you over.

01:04:20.740 Yeah.

01:04:21.160 I'd rather win you over with my ideas.

01:04:24.120 And deeds, too.

01:04:25.700 Like, you don't hear stuff I've been up to where you go, oh, man, that's kind of a turnoff.

01:04:30.980 You know what I mean?

01:04:31.580 Just like dignity, sort of quiet dignity, but character, just living a life that's character-driven, you know, and not trying to-

01:04:42.760 I mean, look, here's the era we're living in.

01:04:46.100 Subaru.

01:04:47.320 Subaru makes cars with love.

01:04:51.040 Their cars are made with love now.

01:04:52.520 And every Subaru commercials, the mixed lesbian couple who rescued the otter, and they're going up into the mountains, and there's no talk about powertrain warranty.

01:05:04.420 There's no talk about gas mileage.

01:05:06.100 There's no sticker price car.

01:05:07.620 There's no torque, horsepower, rust-proofing.

01:05:10.800 There's no talk about anything.

01:05:13.220 It's made with love.

01:05:14.640 Okay, I looked into this.

01:05:17.240 Subaru is a big company.

01:05:19.160 Subaru makes helicopters for the Japanese military and drones as well.

01:05:24.840 So they make stuff for killing people.

01:05:27.340 Not so loving.

01:05:27.740 Not with love.

01:05:28.660 That's a different division.

01:05:31.200 Killing division.

01:05:32.260 It's every commercial you now see that's all just hugs and good vibes.

01:05:36.940 These are multinational corporations who are firing people, outsourcing to China, doing whatever they can do to save a nickel, polluting the oceans and the waterways.

01:05:50.140 Do they care?

01:05:51.060 They're made with love?

01:05:52.960 It's an automobile that's made of, you know, bonderized steel and galvanized aluminum made with love?

01:06:01.580 Why do I need them to love me?

01:06:02.820 I don't need them to love me.

01:06:03.740 No, it's for dumb people to believe that, oh, that's not who they, they're not just some huge Japanese corporation that uses raw materials and stamps.

01:06:15.040 But honestly, it's like, that's fine.

01:06:16.420 She can be super bubbly and loving, but you actually look at her policies.

01:06:19.360 And again, ask Lake and Riley whether this is a loving administration.

01:06:22.300 Ask the kids, the detransitioners who have had their body parts chopped off under a medical profession that they are endorsing to push this kind of madness on children.

01:06:30.180 We could go on.

01:06:30.860 But this spice shop incident is indicative of exactly this problem because she goes in there, she's hugging, and she's lovey, and she's saying it's time to turn a page on the divisiveness.

01:06:44.340 It's time to bring our country together.

01:06:47.560 That's what she said.

01:06:48.560 Well, why did she choose Penzi's, all right?

01:06:51.460 On its website, Penzi's, which I think is owned by Bill Penzi, who has posted several statements, it's a spice shop, and they have some 49 stores throughout the United States.

01:07:04.440 They have a post, it's been there for a while, called About Republicans.

01:07:09.860 We really have no hate for Republican voters, none at all, they write.

01:07:13.960 And this is by Bill Penzi, we understand, he signs it Bill, I assume it's the CEO, Bill Penzi, who would pen such a thing on their website.

01:07:21.180 I actually like and respect most of you guys.

01:07:23.320 Sure, there are a growing number that are there for the racism, but I still believe the majority of you have good hearts.

01:07:29.340 Going forward, we would still be glad to have you as customers, but we're done pretending the Republican Party's embrace of cruelty and racism, COVID lies, climate change denial, and threats to democracy are anything other than the risks they legitimately are.

01:07:49.040 Okay?

01:07:49.560 So, they call this America's wokest company.

01:07:52.680 She sees this statement ripping on Republicans as they embrace cruelty and racism, and most of them are there for the racism, and has the nerve to walk in there and say,

01:08:04.720 I'm here to turn the page on divisiveness, to bring our country together.

01:08:11.260 He's a good and decent man.

01:08:13.040 Yeah, as far as me and the Republicans, I come for the misogyny, but I stay for the racism.

01:08:17.920 That's what drew me in initially, you know.

01:08:21.240 So, that's the other thing, right?

01:08:23.240 Liz Cheney's out there.

01:08:24.180 They're misogynist pigs.

01:08:25.380 J.D. Vance and Trump are misogynist pigs.

01:08:27.620 The crazy thing is—

01:08:28.580 Well, I—

01:08:29.440 Yeah, go ahead.

01:08:29.940 How can we be saying unity and calling someone Hitlerian and misogynistic and racist, you know, simultaneously?

01:08:39.700 I would never want to unify with that person or that group.

01:08:44.520 I mean, it can't be both.

01:08:46.040 No.

01:08:46.480 You know what I mean?

01:08:47.320 So, that's number one.

01:08:49.380 I love climate change because I was driving here.

01:08:53.160 I've lived in L.A. my entire life, and I was driving here, and they're talking about the heat wave, and they go,

01:08:59.180 we set a record yesterday for Hottest Day in the Reseda or somewhere in the valley where I grew up,

01:09:05.260 and it said, besting the record from 1979, 45 years ago.

01:09:13.060 Like, I was in high school when the record was set—with no air conditioning, by the way, in the San Fernando Valley.

01:09:20.580 So not so changey.

01:09:21.480 It took 45 years to get another degree.

01:09:24.980 Right.

01:09:25.380 But it started up again.

01:09:26.860 It started again.

01:09:28.300 You know, it's funny because on your point earlier, I flew out here the other day, yesterday,

01:09:33.640 and on the plane, they were showing a bunch of movies, and I actually had time to watch one.

01:09:37.080 So I was like, all right.

01:09:37.780 So one of the things I watched was this movie about the young woman's clothing store, Brandy Melville,

01:09:46.180 and the name of it was Brandy Hellville, and my daughter loves this store.

01:09:51.080 I was like, oh, what do they do?

01:09:52.760 I'm kind of curious.

01:09:53.720 So I start watching this, and they're lamenting that it's like fast-made fabric

01:10:00.060 that gets thrown away too quickly, and it winds up in, you know,

01:10:04.740 African countries where they can't handle the clothing.

01:10:07.140 I mean, like, that's the fault of this one store?

01:10:09.920 Okay.

01:10:10.160 I mean, like, how many could we blame?

01:10:11.940 But in any event, I'm wondering why they're picking on this one store so much,

01:10:15.860 and about halfway through, we get to it.

01:10:18.200 The owner is not a girl named Brandy Melville.

01:10:21.920 It's a guy in Italy who's a conservative who is pro-Trump.

01:10:27.440 Oh, here we are.

01:10:28.860 And honestly, as far—and I watched it to the end, and as far as I can tell,

01:10:32.260 other than some weird, inappropriate text that they got to hold on

01:10:36.080 on the internal Slack channel, this is why they hate him,

01:10:39.080 and this is why we're all supposed to look at this company as Hellville,

01:10:43.080 because they asked the young girls to post pictures of themselves

01:10:46.920 in the Brandy Melville clothes, which they then put on Instagram.

01:10:50.420 Well, that's what the fashion industry is all about, people.

01:10:54.740 It's just you can't go anywhere, Adam.

01:10:56.640 I just wanted a little, you know, airplane entertainment.

01:10:59.500 Well, I mean, let's not forget this.

01:11:04.160 Biden, this time four years ago, was running on unifying and stopping all the vitriol

01:11:11.260 and putting our differences aside.

01:11:13.520 And Uncle Joe, the elderly statesman who runs down the middle,

01:11:18.960 was going to just bring us together and we'll get away from the chaos that is Donald Trump.

01:11:24.420 That was the promise four years ago.

01:11:26.340 Then the guy went on a tour where he basically worked race into every single speech,

01:11:34.640 agitating every person that wasn't white, saying white supremacy was the bigger,

01:11:38.820 and doing much more divisive agitation than anyone who came before him.

01:11:45.660 And now we're supposed to believe this isn't going to happen again?

01:11:50.580 I mean, that was just the promise.

01:11:52.680 She's on camera saying, be more woke.

01:11:54.340 That's the answer to everything, more woke.

01:11:56.260 Biden at least had the dignity to lie when he was running,

01:12:02.640 saying we're just going to tack back toward the middle.

01:12:06.040 We're going to stop.

01:12:07.140 We're going to cool the temp, stop the vitriol,

01:12:09.860 and we'll bring sort of civility and sanity back to the United States.

01:12:14.500 Now, he didn't do any of that, but who knows what he knows,

01:12:18.320 and he's probably just being told to say something.

01:12:20.760 But Kamala, I would have nothing that would lead me to believe that this would happen again.

01:12:27.460 And by the way, how could it if the rules are?

01:12:32.580 Like, so here are the rules on the left.

01:12:36.440 We would like to turn your city into a sanctuary city.

01:12:40.200 We would like to protest on behalf of Hamas.

01:12:43.940 We would like 13-year-olds getting their genitalia cutting off.

01:12:48.080 And then if I say something about it, now there's a problem, and now there's agitation.

01:12:53.300 Well, excuse me, crazy person.

01:12:55.680 You can't.

01:12:56.460 If I had a roommate and he said, you know, my policy is I always leave the refrigerator door open,

01:13:01.460 and I never do my dishes, and I don't flush the toilet, I'd go, well, that's not right.

01:13:07.220 And then he'd go, oh, starting trouble, are we?

01:13:09.540 No unity.

01:13:10.180 No unity for you.

01:13:11.720 It's like, yeah, you come in here with a bunch of crazy ideas and policy that's destructive and hurtful,

01:13:17.820 and when I raise my hand and go, I'm not down with that, then you go, oh, I thought we had unity.

01:13:22.240 They're so divisive.

01:13:23.200 I'm going to bring back unity to the country.

01:13:25.220 Okay, so enter Ron Howard, who I'm so disappointed in little Opie.

01:13:31.040 So he made the movie J.D. Vance, Hillbilly Elegy.

01:13:33.940 Worst Metallica song ever.

01:13:36.080 Enter Ron Howard.

01:13:37.340 He made the movie Hillbilly Elegy a couple of years ago based on J.D. Vance's bestselling book.

01:13:45.560 And good for him for making the movie, even though at that point we knew that J.D. Vance, you know,

01:13:49.620 seemed to be more Republican-leaning, but more of a Trump whisperer at that point who could explain the white working class as opposed to,

01:13:56.140 you know, it's fine to be a Republican as long as you're never Trump Republican.

01:13:58.920 And so he makes this movie about him, and just like Glenn Close, who felt the need to take a shot at J.D. Vance rather than just keeping her piehole shut.

01:14:08.760 Oh, yeah, she played the mom.

01:14:10.220 She played the mamaw.

01:14:11.480 Nana or mamaw.

01:14:12.100 The mamaw who changed his life.

01:14:14.680 And so Ron Howard is asked about this new evil J.D. Vance.

01:14:18.780 Yes.

01:14:19.260 And whether he regrets making this film, and instead of taking the high road at him, you know, like, I stand by the storytelling.

01:14:27.120 It was a great American story, and I'm not going to weigh in beyond that.

01:14:29.920 That's for the voters to decide.

01:14:31.420 He goes full low road.

01:14:33.480 Watch.

01:14:33.800 I have been surprised and, you know, and concerned by a lot of the rhetoric, you know, coming out of that campaign.

01:14:46.380 Given the experience that I had then, five, six years ago, yeah, I'd say that I've been, you know, surprised.

01:14:55.440 Listen to what the candidates are saying today.

01:14:58.520 That's what's really relevant.

01:14:59.580 It's who they are today, and make a decision, an informed one.

01:15:04.340 But then he added more.

01:15:05.820 He gave an interview to Deadline, and he said, here's the question, by the way, from Deadline.

01:15:11.180 You made an underdog story about a poor young man from a dysfunctional family with a grandmother who would not let him fail.

01:15:17.040 He has evolved from that young man into a polarizing, volatile, conservative.

01:15:21.980 Nice, nice objective question, Deadline.

01:15:24.400 Yeah.

01:15:24.560 I'm sure people have said to you, Ron, what have you unleashed?

01:15:28.240 How do you process that?

01:15:30.920 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:15:31.840 I'm very surprised and disappointed by much of the rhetoric I'm reading and hearing.

01:15:37.200 People do change, and I assume that's the case.

01:15:39.960 So he's surprised, disappointed at the rhetoric, and he's concerned about it and really wants people to listen to what they're saying and then vote accordingly.

01:15:49.620 Unfortunately, none of that on the Kamala Harris side, none of that when they called him a Hitler, none of that against the complaints that he's a misogynist to actually, in this case, give the other side and say, you know what?

01:16:01.220 I know he said some things that are controversial, but the man I came to know was raised by strong women who changed his life, and I have to believe they had a long-lasting effect on this man.

01:16:12.780 Yeah, well, it's interesting when you think about a guy like Ron Howard because he'll say things I've heard coming out of their campaign, things you read on Variety and USA Today and LA Times and New York Times.

01:16:29.760 Like, there are people in my life who I talk to all the time, they legitimately have no idea about what the story, what the true comments, you know, good people on both sides or whatever.

01:16:42.700 They have no inject bleach, you know.

01:16:45.300 Well, he said inject bleach.

01:16:46.380 I read 10 articles that said, why should I hire, you know, why do I want to vote for a guy who said inject bleach or that, you know, all Muslims were terrorists or something like that.

01:16:55.500 Dictator.

01:16:55.940 Yeah, he said.

01:16:57.040 Bloodbath.

01:16:57.240 I read he said he was going to be a dictator and bloodbath on the, I think, first day's dictator, second day's bloodbath.

01:17:03.220 But either way, like, why would I, so to be fair to Ron Howard, he may just be reading this stuff in the places he gets his information, which could be the LA Times, in which case he would think that that's what they're doing, you know.

01:17:20.820 Needs to cast a wider net.

01:17:22.240 J.D. Vance said school shootings were a good thing, and he hopes there's more of them.

01:17:26.080 Oh, man, well, I wouldn't vote for that guy.

01:17:28.480 I'm not voting for that.

01:17:28.840 He swims in a swimming pool with a shirt on.

01:17:32.040 I'm not voting for him.

01:17:33.660 So, Ron is probably in the bubble.

01:17:40.160 The bubble gets their info from within the bubble, and many of them legitimately do not have any idea what is going on outside of that group.

01:17:52.320 And when they get their information from CNN, but it could be ABC or NBC.

01:17:58.840 It doesn't have to be, you know, MSNBC.

01:18:01.720 They get their version of he said school shootings were a nice thing, and then they believe it, and then they form their opinions.

01:18:12.080 Now, what is kind of on them is everyone needs to be a little more dubious.

01:18:18.920 You know what I mean?

01:18:19.700 Like, when you hear that headline.

01:18:21.120 At this point, you know the media is lying to you about Trump.

01:18:24.840 You must know this.

01:18:26.880 Yeah, and it's a little bit of a two-way street.

01:18:29.900 You'll see conservative things come out that says, you know, Tim Walls said the Holocaust was a good thing.

01:18:37.720 You know, and I go, hmm, he probably said something about the Holocaust, but I don't think he – the right media doesn't do it nearly as much, and the left, that's what they do.

01:18:47.600 That's their thing is twisting stuff.

01:18:50.620 But as a person that consumes information and then has to report it, you know, on the air, you have to kind of put on your hat that has a big question mark on it and kind of go, let me look into this a little more.

01:19:06.320 Like, even if – look, if J.D. Vance thought school shootings were good, why would he say that into a microphone in front of a crowd?

01:19:15.720 You'd have to be truly stupid.

01:19:16.940 That's something.

01:19:17.540 He wouldn't do it even if he thought that.

01:19:19.060 So let me go back and watch the tape.

01:19:21.580 And they don't do it.

01:19:22.680 The number of flip-flops that she's done, I think the left has heard about these.

01:19:27.660 They just don't care.

01:19:28.900 They like the original positions.

01:19:30.760 They believe her, that her values haven't changed.

01:19:32.700 They know she's got to say they've changed in order to win this election.

01:19:35.580 And over the weekend, one of her campaign spokespeople came out and really put a new spin on it.

01:19:42.020 But I think it was a fine spin for the left.

01:19:44.460 They'll go along with this.

01:19:45.360 This is Ian Sams on Thursday, actually.

01:19:48.540 It was on CNN.

01:19:49.800 Take a listen to SOT25.

01:19:50.760 She's been part of the Biden administration.

01:19:54.600 I mean, she has been part of the Democratic.

01:19:56.700 Democrats have been in control of the country for the last three going on four years.

01:20:00.740 And you are still seeing this in the polling.

01:20:02.900 I mean, these working class voters are telling us right now that more of them are with Donald Trump than Kamala Harris.

01:20:08.140 Why?

01:20:08.700 What is it about what you guys have been doing for the last three plus years that explains that?

01:20:13.240 Well, I think, again, we're trying to talk to the voters and explain this message.

01:20:17.900 We've got 60 days until the election.

01:20:20.220 You know, we don't have time to sit around and think about why over the last few years certain things may have happened or may not have happened.

01:20:26.480 You don't?

01:20:27.660 No.

01:20:28.920 Probably his wallet looks pretty good.

01:20:31.020 His trips to the grocery store are not stressful.

01:20:33.400 And this is one of her top people saying, we really don't have time to think about why what happened over the past three and a half years happened.

01:20:39.540 Just vote Kamala Harris.

01:20:41.640 Yeah.

01:20:41.840 So we're at an inflection point, as far as I can tell, which is sort of Subaru good vibes taking over Ford tough, you know, built Ford tough.

01:20:55.000 And Subarus are built with love.

01:20:57.320 Right.

01:20:57.900 And the people like us go, I'm just a brass taxer.

01:21:03.120 I want to know all the information and all the policy, but there's enough.

01:21:09.940 And I think I think what it is, is enough men have sort of slid over to the good vibes that made with love departments, probably circulating estrogens and too much plastic and our food and low, low, low testosterone.

01:21:24.420 Could be a thing.

01:21:25.400 Oh, yeah.

01:21:25.700 No, guys are turning into women.

01:21:29.380 No, they are.

01:21:30.000 They're losing all their sperm.

01:21:31.060 They're losing all whatever made them dudes.

01:21:33.800 And so they're not worried about powertrain warranties anymore.

01:21:37.520 They're worried about puppies and love and lesbians and station wagons.

01:21:41.580 So that's where we're heading.

01:21:43.720 And all politicians do is they go, ooh, we're drifting toward love.

01:21:49.420 You know, so Kamala Harris is all, you know, that's, you know.

01:21:52.620 Joe Biden, do you think he knows who Dylan Mulvaney is?

01:21:56.260 You think he cares about the trans community?

01:21:58.400 You think he knows any of this stuff?

01:22:00.020 I think Dylan Mulvaney sat down with Joe Biden, but that doesn't mean Biden has any idea.

01:22:03.400 No, he doesn't know who he is.

01:22:03.420 He didn't know who he was 10 seconds before that.

01:22:06.140 And still doesn't know.

01:22:07.100 Still doesn't know.

01:22:07.920 The point is, is they lick the finger.

01:22:09.820 Somebody told him, we're drifting toward the feminization and the love.

01:22:14.840 And there's more dudes turning into women every day.

01:22:18.880 So I don't mean physically.

01:22:20.720 I'm talking about like chemical castration.

01:22:22.700 Just turning into females.

01:22:26.340 And why not run on good vibes?

01:22:29.980 So what they're saying, what Kamala's side is saying is, look, we don't need to get into all the nuts and the bolts of the policies and the feds and the reserve and the oil reserves and drilling and fracking, border.

01:22:43.880 What are we doing that?

01:22:44.900 We're good vibes.

01:22:46.900 Vibes, he's mean, yells and stands there looking very Mussolini-esque.

01:22:55.660 So we're just running over that.

01:22:56.820 Now, as far as the technical stuff, you know, the actual policies, just do what they do in the Subaru commercials.

01:23:04.520 Don't talk about it.

01:23:05.680 We're talking about this.

01:23:06.680 That's what I think she's going to do tomorrow night.

01:23:08.100 She's going to do like economy, opportunity economy, and we're going to protect seniors.

01:23:15.200 Right.

01:23:15.600 And we're going to clean up the environment.

01:23:17.560 Right.

01:23:17.920 It's just going to be these sweeping, empty promises.

01:23:21.020 I don't think she's going to drill down on any policies because she's got to stay as close to generic Democrat as she can.

01:23:28.240 Although, I mean, as I discussed with Larry Elder, right now that's not working that well for her because that latest New York Times-Siena poll shows her support is not that strong.

01:23:37.500 She's not as strong with traditional voting blocs within the Democratic Party as they expected her to be.

01:23:42.360 And the only group she's really doing well with, to your point, is women.

01:23:47.740 The gender gap is real.

01:23:50.440 Harris has got 39 percent of men.

01:23:53.020 Trump has got 56 percent of men.

01:23:55.780 Harris has got 53 percent of women.

01:23:57.740 Trump has got 42 percent of them.

01:23:59.680 But there's only so far the sort of interesting message of love and abortion can get you.

01:24:07.340 Yes.

01:24:08.280 Yeah.

01:24:08.600 Well, I mean, it's sort of—to me, it could all be distilled down into the concept of a sanctuary city.

01:24:17.520 If you wanted to kind of go, well, what's a feminine thought and what's a masculine thought?

01:24:21.920 You know, and you could talk about energy and taxation and borders and things like that.

01:24:26.300 But the cities that went, we are a sanctuary city.

01:24:30.500 All are welcome.

01:24:32.100 All shall be treated with dignity and respect and love and have zero plans in place.

01:24:38.120 When the buses started pulling up and now people are splayed out in the parks and the streets and in the gymnasiums where the taxpayers' kids used to play and so on and so forth.

01:24:48.580 That is the actual representation of good vibes policy.

01:24:56.120 It sounds awesome.

01:24:57.740 You know what I mean?

01:24:58.360 We're sanctuary city.

01:24:59.860 Everyone's welcome.

01:25:01.140 No human's illegal.

01:25:02.300 Well, what actually happens when people start spilling into the city?

01:25:07.380 You know what, Adam?

01:25:07.640 I'm listening to you.

01:25:08.300 I'm so annoyed.

01:25:09.380 I'm annoyed because it's like this isn't feminine.

01:25:13.200 Feminine women are Republicans.

01:25:15.780 Not all of them, but generally the women in the Republican Party tend to be feminine and strong and amazing.

01:25:23.020 And the men more and more are more masculine.

01:25:26.320 And if you look at not all Democrats—a lot of my friends are wonderful Democrats—but the left, the progressive left,

01:25:32.300 this is not what a woman is, this sort of afraid, overly emotional, lead with love and let the illegals—that is the worst kind of feminism I've ever seen.

01:25:44.420 I don't understand these women at all.

01:25:47.140 They don't represent me or any of them.

01:25:48.900 And to be clear, you know, Margaret Thatcher was a female who did not embody these thoughts that we speak of.

01:25:58.360 And when I talk about this in private, your name comes up as one of the leaders in the clubhouse of females who should not be mistaken for this kind of thinking.

01:26:08.480 Thank you.

01:26:08.900 Yes.

01:26:09.680 But it's like, I hate the way it's going.

01:26:12.160 Like, the Democrat Party is the party of no spine unless it comes to shutting you up and shoving wokeness down your throat.

01:26:20.020 And the Republican Party has all of the strength and the robust nature that's necessary for governing,

01:26:26.440 but as a result will be made into demons by that left, which happens to control all of the message boards throughout the country and beyond.

01:26:34.940 That's really what's happening.

01:26:36.020 And they're going to claim feminism and womanhood.

01:26:39.760 These women who are going to vote for Kamala Harris somehow represent, like, the feminism, like, the new feminism in America.

01:26:47.620 And I just reject that.

01:26:49.780 Feminists—what feminists should be is strong, fierce, smart women who stand up for what they believe in,

01:26:58.980 but haven't forgotten the glories of being a woman, the wonders of softness, and not overly emotionalism, but emotionalism, where it's—that's why men love us.

01:27:09.340 They need a soft place to fall.

01:27:11.020 They need—my husband and I go in to see, like, the decorator, and we're redecorating a room, and it's like the decorator's talking about all the wallpapers and the, you know, sofas.

01:27:21.500 And then he gets to the cost, and he's like, well—and he looks at Doug when he says what the number's going to be.

01:27:26.640 And Doug's like, well, I don't know about—and I'm like, YOLO!

01:27:31.360 Yeah.

01:27:32.220 But it works.

01:27:33.120 Like, that's how men and women work together.

01:27:34.700 One is more sober, and one is more fun, or one is more—whatever.

01:27:38.660 They want men out of the picture altogether.

01:27:40.720 All they want is the far-left, angry woman who's going to emasculate men.

01:27:45.520 I just—all of it is—it makes me recoil.

01:27:47.640 You know, I think what we need to do from a message standpoint—I agree with your soliloquy—

01:27:54.440 what we need to do is, as the guy, you know, I'm the guy going at home, diet and exercise.

01:28:03.440 These kids got to get some exercise, and no, you can't eat taffy for breakfast or whatever.

01:28:08.260 And then I get labeled as the mean one.

01:28:10.880 Fine.

01:28:11.380 Because I'm saying that.

01:28:12.360 And I think a lot of the stuff we're talking about that's sort of coming out of conservatism is diet and exercise.

01:28:20.620 And now we're being labeled mean because their personal trainer wants them to watch TV and eat fudge.

01:28:26.320 They will be dead by age 50.

01:28:27.660 Right, and I'm saying I'm not a bad person for suggesting you do things that are good for you.

01:28:34.860 That makes me a good person who doesn't dance like Ellen.

01:28:38.900 But I know you don't like the message, and I know you don't want to get up and do some road work in the morning.

01:28:44.680 And I know you would rather have honey-smack cereal than a poached egg.

01:28:50.900 But let's not confuse me with someone who's hurting somebody.

01:28:55.640 I'm actually helping somebody.

01:28:58.160 And there's a lot of that.

01:28:59.420 Like, for instance, even going way back, here in L.A. especially, you know, they had an English-only-in-school thing.

01:29:06.680 And then all the nice people were going, they should be taught in their native tongue.

01:29:11.440 And it's like, yeah, and then they graduate, and they can't speak English, and they can't get a job.

01:29:16.060 So who's the mean one in this equation, the guy who says, let them learn English in the first and second grade,

01:29:23.980 and they'll get fluent in it, and they'll move on, and then they could get a job?

01:29:27.420 Or the one, the nice person who's saying teach them in their mother language?

01:29:31.680 Better to have a couple rough years when you're seven than when you're 20 looking for a job.

01:29:36.340 Right. I'm saying diet.

01:29:38.000 You're saying ozempic.

01:29:39.520 You know what I mean?

01:29:41.020 Why am I the bad one in this equation?

01:29:43.780 I'm, you know, COVID comes down the pike, and I'm saying lose some weight, get some exercise, get some,

01:29:50.960 and everyone's yelling at me, get vaccinated and stay home.

01:29:53.740 And I'm like, shut the kids, shut the school down.

01:29:56.220 I'm saying open the school.

01:29:57.820 I'm the bad guy.

01:29:59.060 We're saying open the school.

01:30:00.660 Now the kids have fallen off.

01:30:02.420 They're way behind depression, suicide, you know, whatever comes along with sheltering in place for two damn years.

01:30:09.080 Why am I the bad guy in this equation?

01:30:11.940 And then when you are proven right, they move on.

01:30:16.440 They don't admit it.

01:30:17.380 They move on.

01:30:18.160 They may do the same, quote, mistakes and a new way forward, you might call it.

01:30:22.860 That's right.

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01:32:22.080 Back with me now, Adam Carolla.

01:32:23.640 The big debate tomorrow night.

01:32:26.020 And it's hosted by ABC News.

01:32:28.020 And this, a new study by the Media Research Center, finds that of the big three evening newscasts, none of which is pro-Trump, ABC's World News Tonight, which is hosted by David Muir, who's going to be one of the debate moderators, has been the most positive toward Harris and the most hostile to Donald Trump.

01:32:48.200 MRC analysts reviewed all 100 campaign stories that aired on World News Tonight from the day Harris entered the race on July 21 through September 6th.

01:32:57.020 Including weekends, the analysis found 25 clearly positive statements about Harris from reporters, anchors, voters and other nonpartisan sources with zero negative statements.

01:33:06.200 None.

01:33:06.520 That computes to a gravity-defying 100% positive spin score for the vice president.

01:33:13.080 As for Trump, our analysts found just five clearly positive comments versus 66 negative statements for a dismal 7% positive, 93% negative spin score.

01:33:26.700 This will be our debate host tomorrow night.

01:33:30.700 Yeah.

01:33:31.520 So it's also, it's an interesting rule that we sort of struck with the left and the progressives, which is, all right, so you get your progressive moderators to do the debate.

01:33:46.480 But what if we want, on the next debate, someone who thinks more aligned with us?

01:33:52.060 And they're like, well, we can't do that.

01:33:53.600 And it's like, why not?

01:33:55.140 That why, if it's on CNN one time, then it should be on Fox the next time.

01:34:01.160 Why is there not, what's unthinkable about that?

01:34:04.120 And they're like, because your guys are partisan.

01:34:06.820 And it's like, yeah, have you, do you have a mirror in the dressing room?

01:34:10.680 Because that's what you guys do.

01:34:11.840 Now, there is a kind of a phenomenon that could happen, which is they know that the optics of this are sort of that way.

01:34:23.320 And sometimes you can overcompensate to try to do away with those optics.

01:34:29.180 Back to the coach who has his son on the team.

01:34:33.860 There's a definite phenomenon where the coach is tougher on his son on the Pop Warner football team because he doesn't like the optics.

01:34:42.200 There's no way they're going to be tougher on her.

01:34:44.000 But they might be fair.

01:34:45.100 No, just even-handed is enough.

01:34:48.140 That'd be huge.

01:34:48.920 Well, look at what happened with Tapper and Dana Bash.

01:34:51.800 Dana Bash on the CNN debate between Trump and Biden.

01:34:55.000 They were fair.

01:34:56.060 They played that one right down the middle.

01:34:57.860 And so, honestly, to my point of, you're not going to find somebody who's totally nonpartisan to host any presidential debate.

01:35:04.060 Journalists have strong opinions about the candidates in the news.

01:35:06.560 It's enough if they can check the bias in actually hosting the debate.

01:35:11.080 And that was great that they managed to do that in that CNN debate.

01:35:14.840 And I certainly hope they'll be able to do it tomorrow night in the ABC debate.

01:35:17.780 But it only works one way.

01:35:19.380 They'll only let the leftists have the opportunity to check their bias.

01:35:23.420 If you're in any way a conservative or associated with the right, you will not be given the opportunity to even try.

01:35:29.600 Those are the rules.

01:35:30.920 It's so annoying.

01:35:32.260 All right.

01:35:32.480 So tomorrow night, what do you think Trump's got to do?

01:35:35.320 Because it is neck and neck right now.

01:35:37.160 And if you look at how it's going, Trump is doing pretty well in these polls that had him considerably behind, for example, in 16, where he won.

01:35:47.900 And way behind in 2020, where he did lose, but only by a smidge.

01:35:53.220 And now they're showing him up or at least tied.

01:35:57.620 So, you know, the smart man's bet is it's his to lose.

01:36:00.460 Nate Silver saying he's got a 63 percent chance of winning.

01:36:03.120 So what do you think he needs to do tomorrow?

01:36:06.640 I think Trump needs to kind of take a page out of Biden's playbook, which is less is more.

01:36:12.800 You know, Kamala Harris has to kind of go, here's who I am.

01:36:17.740 Here are my policies.

01:36:18.660 Because we've had enough of not hearing any policy from her.

01:36:23.640 Trump spits out policies over and over and over again.

01:36:27.460 We all get it.

01:36:28.680 So I think he needs to hang back.

01:36:30.920 You know, I interviewed Tucker Carlson on my podcast, I don't know, a year or so ago.

01:36:35.700 And we were talking about Trump and how he torpedoes himself in debates by talking over the person.

01:36:43.820 And so as soon as I heard they were shutting the mics in the Biden-Trump debate, I was like, oh, that's going to aid Trump.

01:36:50.180 And everyone thought, no, that's a Biden.

01:36:51.540 Yeah, Biden wants it.

01:36:53.260 But that doesn't mean it's going to help him.

01:36:55.020 And it certainly didn't.

01:36:57.000 And so what Trump would do traditionally, it's like if your husband or wife accused you of cheating.

01:37:07.340 And what you don't want them to do is go, I accuse you of cheating.

01:37:13.080 Now explain yourself.

01:37:14.540 What you do want them to do is go, I accuse you of cheating.

01:37:17.500 Is it because I put on five pounds?

01:37:19.640 No, no, it's not.

01:37:20.400 I like you the way you are.

01:37:22.640 Is it because I voted for Kamala?

01:37:23.840 Are you a cheater in this situation?

01:37:25.840 I'm the cheater.

01:37:26.480 Okay, so the cheating did happen.

01:37:28.000 This is just how you're handling the accusation.

01:37:29.920 I'm saying make it and let them answer for it.

01:37:35.840 Don't keep coming at them because when you keep coming at them, you give them the opportunity to A, go, can I talk?

01:37:43.360 Can I talk?

01:37:44.120 And then B, now I'm arguing over your weight.

01:37:47.400 I'm not talking about getting caught cheating.

01:37:49.800 Just put it out there.

01:37:52.160 Let them sit with it.

01:37:53.640 I mean, that's what happened to Biden.

01:37:55.280 He just sat and 90 seconds felt like two days when he was trying to cobble those answers together.

01:38:05.280 It's crazy if he doesn't get the fact that 10.4 million illegals have come in under Joe Biden, under the official numbers, and it was 2.3 under Trump.

01:38:16.940 It's very easy to understand.

01:38:19.400 10.4, 2.3.

01:38:21.760 Explain, Ms. Borders are.

01:38:23.860 That's it.

01:38:24.940 Right.

01:38:25.100 Like, let her say her stuff, but those are numbers people can hold onto and digest.

01:38:29.540 It's just, you know, Larry Elder was here before.

01:38:31.440 He's so good with the stats.

01:38:32.260 Trump is not that good with the stats, but if he just keeps saying immigration, immigration, economy, economy, inflation, I do think it'll work well.

01:38:40.320 No, and I agree.

01:38:41.360 And the other thing he does, which doesn't serve him, is he doesn't go 10.2 million illegals crossed into the country.

01:38:50.220 He goes 18 million crossed into the country, and then L.A. Times fact-checks him and goes, that was a lie.

01:38:57.300 Well, the 10 wasn't all a lie.

01:38:59.540 I know.

01:38:59.980 See, you can stick to the real numbers and say it's worse than this.

01:39:02.000 Stick to the number.

01:39:03.280 Adam, I got to go.

01:39:04.240 It's a pleasure as always.

01:39:06.080 Always love talking.

01:39:07.060 Talk soon, I hope.

01:39:08.240 All right.

01:39:08.660 Don't forget, we'll have full live coverage tomorrow night on SiriusXM and YouTube after the debate.

01:39:12.540 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show.

01:39:16.820 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - September 09, 2024

New Poll Panics Dems, Debate Preview, and Kamala's Fake Nice Vibe, with Larry Elder and Adam Carolla ｜ Ep. 882

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