New Video of WHCD Shooter, and Major Questions About Male Accuser in JP Morgan Exec Story, with Buck Sexton, Isabel Brown, and Priya Patel ｜ Ep. 1308
Cole Allen, 31, a self-proclaimed devout Christian and graduate of the prestigious Caltech University, did not challenge his pretrial detention yesterday, meaning he will remain behind bars until his trial on a charge of attempting to assassinate President Trump.
00:12:07.220You know, Megan, this is this is complicated in that there are some things that have come out here that look a little bit actually better for the Secret Service than initially.
00:12:17.900And then there are some things that confirm, in my mind, some of the deficiencies.
00:12:22.440So to your overall point and just by way of background, I mean, I'm formerly a CIA analyst, but I also worked at the NYPD Intelligence Division and the NYPD Intelligence Division used to do a lot of dignitary protection.
00:12:36.560So the guys that I worked with and some of the missions that we had involved, you know, if if a foreign head of state visits New York City to go to the U.N. or something, my team or rather my my office would be in charge of doing security for that individual.
00:12:51.720I'm also a pistol instructor. So there's kind of a few different levels here.
00:12:55.100A tactical pistol instructor down here in South Florida. It's kind of a side hustle. It's a lot of fun.
00:12:59.380um and so a few things come a few things by way megan if you you and dog ever come down i'll take
00:13:04.980you guys we'll have a great time at the range um but i would love that oh yeah we'd have so much
00:13:09.580fun you just let me know but i i'd say this about it a few things one it's it's not perfect but
00:13:15.220here's here's what you see from the secret service uh head here he knows that his agency what
00:13:19.980happened in butler and then what happened in west palm beach has destroyed public faith in the secret
00:13:25.240service. I might add rightly so. The Butler situation was so bad that people coming up
00:13:31.860with conspiracies could look at you and say, they really just let the guy walk up there and take the
00:13:37.660most obvious sniper position on a president who's been under more, right? So those clearly were as
00:13:43.680big as screw ups. We just, it was the hand of God that pushed that bullet just a little bit
00:13:49.100to the side of trump i mean it was a complete miracle now in this situation a few things one
00:13:55.860is the the guy happened to run right when one of you see one of the magnetometers is down and so
00:14:03.880and i think he was lucky i can't tell if i don't think he could see from the stairwell though the
00:14:08.380the dog of course as you pointed out dogs always know the dog knew something was up and that's why
00:14:13.560they're so useful in personnel and site protection because they're incredible. It's amazing how the
00:14:19.600dog knew they are trained to smell gunpowder. It's not just bombs they can detect. They can detect
00:14:24.220they can detect detect bullets. Oh, and they can detect a person who is who is sweating super
00:14:29.680nervously. I mean, you know, they can even get into the almost emotional content, if you will,
00:14:34.120of a would be shooter. They know something is up. And anybody who has a dog understands their
00:14:39.340ability to read these things. Why can't I have a dog like that? I have a dog that eats its own
00:14:43.820crap. But I'm sure he's very fluffy. I'm sure he's very fluffy. But yeah, so these dogs have0.99
00:14:51.760obviously a tremendous amount, whether I couldn't tell in the video if it's a German Shepherd or a
00:14:55.360Malinois, those are the two breeds they most often use. They have a tremendous amount of training.
00:14:58.820So the dog did its job. Then you look at the magnetometer down. That created a situation
00:15:03.840where you had people who for a moment they were all looking kind of at the because this
00:15:09.580magnetometer you know it just was this human reaction of oh there's this thing that's going
00:15:13.500to the ground when you watch it and there are a few people there who are tsa who i believe were
00:15:18.520not armed as i understand it who are right next to the magnetometer so in this situation they're
00:15:23.540largely they're going to be useless some people think the tsa is you know useless in general the
00:15:28.760people against the wall yes the people against the wall exactly so they're they're not i mean0.55
00:15:33.020when someone's running with a gun they're not about to try to tackle and go go superhero but
00:15:37.180the other individuals you can tell obviously who drew firearms um this is a reminder i might add
00:15:42.380of something that's very important they ran away there they are running away buck i mean i guess
00:15:46.160who can blame them they don't have guns and he does yeah i don't i don't think it's fair to you
00:15:50.380notice the guys with the guns engaged and they a couple of them drew pretty quickly and and you
00:15:55.380know remember it's really easy you know to think about that moment i try to tell people this we
00:16:01.080were talking about a dog before i won't say you know if you lost your kid because that's so
00:16:04.840horrible but imagine if you think in the park you've lost your dog and that that adrenaline
00:16:09.400dump that you have when you think you're under a real threat that adrenaline dump happens and now
00:16:15.340your fine motor skills become far more difficult so it's very easy at like a range or whatever to
00:16:21.800train for this stuff but until you've had a situation where a maniac is running at you with
00:16:26.780a shotgun at close range. You know, it's just it's a lot easier to Monday. It's very easy to
00:16:32.880Monday morning quarterback all of this stuff. I think the guys with the guns did pretty well.
00:16:36.740It's amazing that this guy just to say, like, if we can rewrack that video, you guys, it's the guy
00:16:41.760who who's you can see police on the back of their shirt right here at the bottom left of our screen
00:16:48.380who gets the shots off right here. It's happening right now. It's not the guy in the suit who's
00:16:52.480obviously Secret Service. It's a cop, says police, and he's firing. You can see the
00:16:56.380the shots coming out of his gun right there with the gunpowder. And it's amazing that there wasn't
00:17:03.200anybody hurt via friendly fire, especially suit man. And it's kind of amazing that not one shot
00:17:09.520hit the perpetrator. And then we are told that the perpetrator got off one shot, which is how
00:17:17.460the agent, yeah, right there. It was right there. But the agent, but the cop was fine because he had
00:17:22.640his vest on. But like, God, this could have gone a lot worse. Yeah, that cop is I mean, at that
00:17:27.120distance, first of all, something that that people always train and even the most basic,
00:17:32.400like tactical 101 self-defense firearms training, Megan, is the rule of threes, they call it
00:17:37.520three yards, three seconds, three shots. And that is roughly 90 percent, 80 percent depends on,
00:17:46.440you know, how you look at the FBI data, how gun how gunfights actually happen. People are within
00:17:52.160In 10 feet, 3 yards, the whole thing takes 3 seconds or less, and 3 shots are exchanged.
00:17:58.560So when people are thinking about it, and obviously law enforcement has to deal with this all the time,
00:18:02.400most people think, oh, if I'm in a gunfight, it's going to be like in the movie where you're shooting, they're shooting, you're aiming.
00:18:08.060Actually, a lot of the time in a gunfight, you're never even going to get the sights up to eye level.
00:18:13.260So you'll be shooting, if you're trained properly, right out of the draw, basically from the hip,
00:18:18.760and then you're continuing to shoot as you're extending out.0.97
00:18:20.840so this the individual that is okay corral shit yeah i mean but that's when you think about it0.98
00:18:26.320right that that half second makes all the difference because if you can get that shot0.98
00:18:29.580on target first before the other person extends so the secret service director is not wrong when
00:18:34.460he says hey look that guy took that guy took a 12 game round in the chest and and he still got
00:18:39.540shots off that makes it a lot more understandable as well that he could fire i mean it's like
00:18:44.400getting hit with a baseball bat now he's okay thankfully i will say that it's it's lucky that
00:18:49.860the people those tsa agents they are lucky they did not get hit in the crossfire um but that's
00:18:55.680and soup man yeah and but that's certainly better for the secret service initially based on the
00:19:00.760video a lot of people were saying hold on a second i was actually concerned or i thought it
00:19:05.200was possible that there was a crossfire incident where it might have been friendly fire because
00:19:08.900people in that close proximity so that's kind of the ballistics oh and also the a lot of people
00:19:13.900think shotgun because you know they like elmer fudd and they're you know it's like it's going to
00:19:18.480be this huge spread um it's not bird shot i believe what he had in there was was a double
00:19:24.060double o buck uh no pun intended and uh that at a really close range is going to be about a two to
00:19:31.840three inch spread it's not actually and it spreads out the more it goes so that would have hit him
00:19:37.160essentially like a fist that's why it could have all hit him in the vest so so so those are the
00:19:41.800those are the ballistic sides of it on the security part of it which you brought up
00:19:46.300Now, this is where I think it gets, oh, well, one thing also,
00:19:50.320that there was no blocking position by the magnetometers,
00:19:54.860that nobody was there to physically obstruct.
00:19:58.860That I think, if you're really going to assess this and be totally fair,
00:20:08.240You can't have a situation where someone can just run, as we saw.
00:20:11.120There should have at least been a physical presence there,
00:20:13.300which would have slowed them down more.
00:20:15.220Now, the cordon thing, this is tough because, as you know, big events happen in D.C.
00:20:18.760and they have to have them in these hotel auditoriums.
00:20:22.140No hotel is going to want to have a cordon that goes, you know, two blocks and magnetometers set up looking for looking for anyone carrying weapons and all this sort of thing.
00:20:42.560I don't know what else to like this. This is actually a good idea. They could have far better control. It'll be a nicer venue for for a lot of these events that involve the president, including future Democrat presidents, because it's hard to secure a site like this without putting undue burden on on the venue.
00:21:02.800Yeah, but the White House Correspondents Dinner is never happening in the White House ballroom.
00:21:06.280Like, I don't have thoughts on the ballroom, but this event is never happening on the White House grounds, ever, period.
00:21:14.180By the way, you'd have to cut the guest list in half.
00:21:15.900I think it's going to be a big, beautiful ballroom, Megan, the most beautiful.
00:22:23.000So it's not actually, like, a really worthwhile event at all, in my opinion.0.98
00:22:26.020But put that put that, you know, to the side for a second. I'm going to I'm taking a hard turn here.
00:22:32.660You know, we used to do when I was in the CIA Iraq office doing analysis, we would analyze security situation in different cities and in different neighborhoods and cities.0.97
00:22:42.660And one of the huge things this is in the era of IEDs. Now we're in the era of drones, which we can talk about.
00:22:47.800But IEDs were like the new terrible threat that we were facing in that on that battlefield space and suicide bombers, obviously.
00:22:56.940And so we would think about security through the context of did they break through the cordon and were they able to get sort of interior casualties?
00:23:06.060these because it's unrealistic especially in a situation like that to say well we're going to be
00:23:11.240so secure that even the outer ring of security like where they're going to sweep the cars where
00:23:16.380they're going to if somebody wants to drive up to the outer ring of your security and start shooting
00:23:21.400at you that's that's actually the security functioning properly right i mean that's because
00:23:26.280because that's as much as you so if somebody let's say were to show up at the white house
00:23:29.380correspondence dinner like this guy and start shooting at secret service guys who are set up
00:23:35.200to check people, okay, well, they're going to engage. And that's certainly not a Secret Service
00:23:39.820failure or anything. That's what they're there for. That's doing their job. I think the part of
00:23:43.740this that has people a little bit rattled about it is, well, one, the Secret Service's reputation
00:23:49.380is in the toilet. And unfortunately, it should be because, I mean, who knows what the country
00:23:55.280looks like if that situation in Butler had gone differently where they completely, horrifically
00:23:59.720fell down on the job. But also the fact that he was able to break through and run through like
00:24:04.980this it reminds people okay megan what if he had had what if it was two or three guys and they had0.89
00:24:11.500had a reasonable amount of tactical training this guy's this guy's a clown a psycho and he's going0.50
00:24:18.480to spend the rest of his life in prison i mean not that this is funny but you know what i mean he has0.99
00:24:21.860no he has no ability no skill set whatsoever other than to run and fire a gun off at somebody
00:24:27.820who's not paying attention um if you had a couple of guys who knew how to you know move in two by
00:24:34.000two or you know four guys moving two by two cover formation if you had guys who understood how to
00:24:38.100clear rooms uh guys who had uh rifles could do quick mag changes maybe had some explosives on
00:24:44.860them how far would they have gotten through this cordon and that's i think something that keeps
00:24:49.920people way more on edge because donald trump is going to be under threat every day until the end
00:24:57.180of his presidency hopefully not thereafter but certainly every day from now to the end of his
00:25:01.940presidency. This is not going to stop. No, it's not. And I have to say, like, I this is I've been
00:25:09.480through this magnetometer situation at the top of the escalators many, many times. I've gone into
00:25:14.980many, many of these dinners. And this is too close to civilization. This is whatever the outer
00:25:20.800perimeter needed to be in order to get people through the mags and so on should not have been
00:25:25.260so close to civilization because this is basically a hotel lobby. I'm not saying it's right smack dab
00:25:31.060in the middle of the lobby. They push it off to the side. But this easily could have had
00:25:34.360civilians milling about, people getting there late. I mean, this was like one of the main
00:25:38.540entrances to get into the event. And no one's life is worth more than another's, including
00:25:43.980the president's. He's not worth more than any random attendee. But I'm just saying there were
00:25:49.000a lot of dignitaries there, a lot of cabinet officials, a lot of famous members of the press.
00:25:54.740It just would have been extremely jarring for the public to see any one of those people get shot
00:28:22.060individuals getting through. I mean, you know,
00:28:24.040i'm like a middle-aged 44 year old guy i saw the secret service uh physical requirements and i was
00:28:29.300like i'm not even like training for it these days and i could pass that that's absurd so yes so you
00:28:33.840know it takes time but it's it's one of these things where um it reminds me there's a haunting
00:28:39.200quote from an ira leader after they tried to get margaret thatcher and it was you know that ira
00:28:48.220they put a bomb somewhere. And the quote that he put out was, you know, you have to be lucky
00:28:54.080always, but we only have to be lucky once. And that's the reality of high security or, you know,
00:29:01.860high target security of personal security details is, you know, you just have to be on it all the
00:29:07.720time and you have to have a zero failure mentality. Good for that cop for being quick to react. You
00:29:15.220You know, I mean, he had his gun drawn and was firing shots at the bad guy within seconds.
00:29:19.820And I will say it was kind of cool to see the Secret Service agent in, like, the firing stance with the legs, you know, bent, like, immediately.
00:29:27.780That was kind of cool to see, like, his training kicked in, even though nobody actually hit the perp.
00:29:32.360But the perp is in custody, so we can't—that guy, look at it.
00:30:03.360OK, let's keep going because we have other stuff to get to.
00:30:06.060The Iran war is in a weird place right now.
00:30:08.760There's a ceasefire, but the president reportedly has just been advised on some options to, like, rattle the ceasefire out of a ceasefire and to an end to the actual conflict.
00:30:23.040And he is reportedly considering renewed strikes against certain targets or something greater.
00:30:29.940So some plans have been brought to him.
00:30:32.000But meantime, domestically, gas prices now have hit. Oil has rallied to its highest level since the start of the Iran war. And gas prices are now averaging four dollars and 30 cents a gallon, which Trump was asked about in the following soundbite, which we will play. Watch here.
00:30:52.120sat 11 the average price of a gallon of gas is now four dollars and three cents in this country
00:30:57.240and you know what and we're not going to have a nuclear weapon in the hands of iran but the gas
00:31:01.840will go down as soon as the war's over it'll drop like a rock there's so much of it it's all over
00:31:06.740the place sitting all over the oceans of the world and it'll be it'll go down but what won't0.68
00:31:14.780happen is if iran had a nuclear weapon and used it then the whole world is a different place0.52
00:31:21.320You're not going to have to pay a little bit more for gasoline.
00:31:25.060The gasoline, the oil will go down rapidly as soon as the war is over.
00:31:30.700OK, by the way, I just want to correct myself.
00:31:33.460Today, they've already gone up another 10 cents to four dollars and almost 40 cents a barrel.
00:31:39.560It's four point three nine that the average gallon is costing.
00:31:45.640So there is President Trump saying that.
00:31:48.400here's senator rick scott a republican doubling down with caitlin collins top 12 when the people
00:31:55.240are unhappy about paying a dollar 24 more what do you tell them about how long they're going to be
00:31:59.500paying more for gas well you know as you and you know caitlin my background i grew up in public
00:32:04.840housing i watched my parents struggle for food um and they struggled for jobs so i think gas prices
00:32:10.300i hate them going up um but here's what's fascinating i mean democrats don't care about
00:32:14.940high gas prices. They tried to cause it to make sure we all buy electric vehicles.
00:32:19.160Trump's tried to get gas prices down. He did his first term. He's done it this term.
00:32:22.700But there's a tradeoff right now. I want my family, your family to be safe. And is there
00:32:29.820a cost right now? It's terrible that we have higher gas prices. But the tradeoff is we're
00:32:36.620going to live in freedom and democracy. And we don't have somebody that's going to drop a nuclear
00:32:41.500weapon on her on us. Senator, I don't know what the price tag for that is, but it's worth it to
00:32:46.800me. OK, I'm sorry. I just I'm taking this before I give it to you. That's fucking bullshit. The
00:32:53.140intelligence community assessed that Iran was not anywhere near getting a nuclear bomb. That comes
00:32:59.840from President Trump's intelligence community right before we launched this war. President
00:33:05.200Trump himself said that we had obliterated the nuclear sites in June, which we believed and
00:33:11.000reported and congratulated him on. So this is just bullshit. You can say Iran's a bad actor.0.99
00:33:17.280Iran has proxies who are doing bad things in the region. Iran has designs on hurting America.0.92
00:33:22.400That's all true. But what he just said is a lie. It's bullshit. It's fucking propaganda.
00:33:27.780And it's not going to sell. People don't believe it. And that is why the president's poll numbers1.00
00:33:32.600on approval for this war continue to drop into the basement. And approval of the war is in the
00:33:38.520basement as well. The latest poll just came out and two thirds of the American public are against
00:33:42.760it. Two thirds of the American public are against the war. The gas prices buck. I just you tell me
00:33:49.740whether America is going to swallow. We just need to do it in order to prevent a nuclear weapon from
00:33:56.460dropping on our heads. So I promised the last time for your esteemed audience that I'll reference my
00:34:02.040resume. But I said I worked in the Iraq office, Megan, at the CIA. I worked in the office that
00:34:06.260actually did the wmd assessment for the iraq war um i was not there when that happened but i
00:34:12.440worked with a lot of folks who were uh and certainly understand how that has colored the
00:34:19.240thinking not only of people from within the intelligence community but all of us right so
00:34:24.140getting this stuff right matters a whole hell of a lot and we have gotten it quite wrong in the past
00:34:30.000and i've seen uh i've i've seen from the inside how that sort of thing can happen via political
00:34:35.060pressure. So I just I just think that's worthwhile context because I come at this from a very I'm very anti Iran, but I'm also really not0.70
00:34:45.520interested in any long drawn out conflict again in the Middle East of any kind. But now we're there. So I try to look at this from the0.68
00:34:53.860perspective of, OK, what are the best options? Here is my challenge on this that I don't think enough people have really addressed and
00:35:02.520certainly not in this administration, or, you know, not for the people who are proponents of
00:35:07.480the war, this has to be a regime change war. It has to be a regime change war for it to come to
00:35:12.900a successful conclusion, because we're talking about getting concessions. And we haven't gotten
00:35:19.580those concessions yet. What we've done is we've set this up so that you have pain on our side
00:35:26.540economically. And really, I'm sorry, it's economically and politically, I think, is the
00:35:31.260more powerful lever here at home. And then you have a lot of economic pain as well as the kinetic
00:35:37.900strikes, the military destruction that had happened in Iran. And it's essentially who's
00:35:43.720going to cry uncle first. I mean, Trump even used that phrase. He's like, they just have to cry uncle
00:35:47.600and this all stops. So we have a midterm coming up and we have Americans paying higher prices for
00:35:53.140gas and people really care, especially people who are struggling about high gas prices. So that's
00:35:58.180real pressure but why do i say it's a regime for it to come to a successful conclusion in the long
00:36:04.060term it has to be a regime change war because any agreement that you get with whatever this is now
00:36:11.900i know we've talked to the foreign minister and i actually called on radio megan uh last week i was
00:36:16.500like they're not going to go back to pakistan for the because they're not going to say they're not
00:36:19.960going to agree they should do this over zoom they should send them an email there's no this is a
00:36:24.320total waste of time and we did and we can't and we did yeah so i i you know my everybody listening
00:36:28.720was like oh wow you saw that coming i was yeah of course this because this is fundamentally about
00:36:33.000the nature of the iranian state and what it will be like going forward and iran that is still
00:36:38.160hostile toward israel toward america is going to want to replenish its coffers get buy back you
00:36:46.360know build up military stuff again we say oh it'll take years and years maybe i mean they've got a
00:36:50.800lot of oil they can build some stuff pretty quickly and they also fight a lot uh asymmetrically i mean
00:36:56.120the terrorist stuff that they do and a lot of the support whether it's to hezbollah hamas the houthis
00:37:00.620they do that uh through mostly asymmetric means and low-cost munitions if you will things that0.79
00:37:05.800aren't particularly sophisticated my point is they're going to try to get uh they're going to
00:37:10.240be back in the same position before with a regime that we're going to say is cheating and that is
00:37:15.460trying to get further along the nuclear progress timeline. And so we have to get rid of them,
00:37:22.260which is why at the beginning of this, everybody was saying, any day now, any day now, we're going
00:37:27.260to see the resistance come up. And I was like, well, that's nonsense. When I saw the stuff in
00:37:32.600the papers about the Kurds maybe helping, I worked in Iraq with the Kurds back in the day in the Iraq
00:37:38.920war. And I just looked at that. I said, has anyone, gosh, they actually need some people
00:37:43.500from the bush administration as crazy as that sounds kurds aren't gonna run they're not gonna0.55
00:37:48.240run roughshod over the iranian military and take over arabia and take over iran is crazy
00:37:52.560and that was being floated for a second so the regime change aspect of this i think is essentially
00:37:56.720non-existent and so we may where i think we're heading and i'm sorry you know this we could do
00:38:01.820a three-hour podcast making just on this one topic right where i think we're heading is uh the the
00:38:07.860iranians will agree to just enough that we can say the iranians that we fundamentally won we've
00:38:15.600destroyed their military they're in a terrible position and then uh we'll hope that the political
00:38:21.240damage going into the midterms isn't so profound that trump is essentially uh um you know stymied
00:38:29.720for the last two years of his second term hobbled hobbled yeah that's that's how i think this goes
00:38:34.840And like I said, I am super opposed to the Iranian regime. I would love it to see people in the streets and women in high heels and miniskirts, no more hijab forced on them by the besiege and partying. That would be amazing. I'm all about that. And I think Iran is a huge problem. And I think Iran is a state sponsor of terror and all these things.0.96
00:38:52.040But if we're being honest about what we're going to accomplish, what agreement, I mean, just ask it this way, what agreement is Jared Kushner going to get on behalf of the Trump administration with Iran that's truly enforceable if these lunatics that are around the country are still in charge?
00:39:09.200Like, I don't think anyone's even thought about this.
00:39:10.860the truth is that they're talking about a deal that looks very much like the jcpoa the obama
00:39:19.460deal that president trump said he hated and was so proud to eviscerate we're talking about a deal
00:39:26.340right now that looks a lot like that and the reports are that president trump is trying to
00:39:32.040make sure it doesn't look so much like that that people can use that against him but it like that's
00:39:37.700just a nightmare. And here we are where the Iranians are still, you know, now they've realized1.00
00:39:42.240that they have this pressure point that they can unleash on us, which is control over the Strait0.99
00:39:45.580of Hormuz, which, yes, that hurts the global economy. We're hurting the Iranian economy by1.00
00:39:50.740not letting shipping traffic go in and out of these Iranian ports, which was a good counter move0.69
00:39:54.780because we needed a pressure point on them. And it is hurting them. But they're still hurting us.
00:39:59.280They're hurting the world economy by not allowing shipping to the Strait of Hormuz.
00:40:02.520And all of that is already manifesting in our gas prices and is only going to continue to.
00:40:08.640I don't think President Trump is right, based on all the economists I've listened to, that as soon as the war is over, it instantly goes down.
00:40:17.260The rolling inflation that's coming our way as a result of what's been happening in the strait is coming, like a tidal wave, no matter whether the war ends tomorrow or not.
00:40:28.420The only question is how long is it going to go on and how big is it going to be?
00:40:32.520And we can control some of that by ending it sooner rather than later.0.93
00:40:35.740So I would just say for anybody who wants to understand the context here, I think in some ways there's been a lack of, in the public conversation about this in the administration, a lack of understanding of how much pain the malacracy of Iran is willing to take.0.88
00:40:54.800This will sound like a digression, Megan, but I think just give me, if it may please the court, give me a second.
00:41:00.000I promise, Your Honor, this will be relevant.
00:41:02.520um the longest i'll allow it thank you thank you the longest declared war of the 20th century
00:41:07.480that i know i think it's the longest declared war of the 20th century was the iran iraq war
00:41:11.460of the of the 80s went on for about a decade and you know about a million people die i mean it was
00:41:16.660a horrible a little bit like a russia ukraine border thing i mean just a lot of death and and
00:41:20.980the iranians set up a special brigade this was their this was their government they set up a
00:41:27.560especially with great, to clear landmines by having people run across minefields.
00:41:33.560This is who is in charge in this country.
00:43:43.740And their regime, they stayed in power.
00:43:46.160And they the amount of suffering that authoritarians will subject their own people to is is something that I think the American mind has a hard time comprehending strategically.
00:43:56.800So I don't I just don't see them crying uncle.
00:44:00.320What I see them doing is giving us just enough of an off ramp where we go, OK, we've had a breakthrough.
00:44:06.820Now we're going to head into the real negotiations.
00:44:09.240We're going to you know, and the Iranians love this.
00:44:12.880Well, the only piece of good news that I have heard out of Iran recently is from the New York Times on their Monday podcast of The Daily, where they had a reporter who covers Iran, and she reported that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is basically their mercenary and that they essentially might be viable.
00:44:39.840And there is a possibility that since they're really the ones running Iran right now, that they could be wooed by a President Trump type economic offering that would, you know, make America or make Iran great again into some sort of a deal.
00:44:53.700Now, we'll see whether that's true. Well, I mean, like, I'm just putting a pin in that, Buck. I don't need your commenting on it. I just I'm putting it out there as a possibility. Let's hope this is a true report. And that and we can't. I want to keep going.
00:45:05.700Okay, okay. I was going to say, but that would be a home run. I would love that.
00:45:10.000And it would be a huge home run if they would actually deal with us and like be in a position
00:45:13.760where our money would make them more reasonable and not just toward us, but toward their own
00:45:19.060people. So fingers crossed that that's a possibility. But I want to switch in the time
00:45:23.340I have you to the politics of it because Mark Halperin, who obviously is very, very bright
00:45:28.040politically and otherwise, he has been saying all along and I've been sort of holding onto it
00:45:32.800that obviously the House looks very much in danger and we all kind of think it's going to go blue,
00:45:37.180but the Senate should not be going blue. The Senate is a good map this year for the Republicans,
00:45:42.320and we should be able to hold on to that on Team Red.
00:45:48.160Here, Mark Halberd's tune has changed, and he doesn't easily change. But here's what he said
00:45:54.040on his show the other day. But I'm telling you, we've got some data points today. The Republican
00:45:58.260Party may be in a lot of trouble. The midterms could be, again, ladies and gentlemen, I'm saying
00:46:02.060It could be. And there are people in the Republican Party, including Newt Gingrich, who would tell you that this is true.
00:46:07.480And they don't want it to happen. It could be a bloodbath. It could be a blue bloodbath in November.
00:46:13.660Plenty of time for things to change. Republicans have some ideas about how to change it.0.94
00:46:17.700But I'm going to tell you some things now that suggest that this could be a nightmare.
00:46:21.780They could lose control of the Senate. You've never heard me say that. I've said just the opposite.
00:46:25.500They could lose more than 30 House seats. They could lose governor's races. No one's expecting them to lose.
00:46:32.060Oh, it's a nightmare, Buck. It's a nightmare because the map gets worse for Republicans in 28, where they have more Senate seats up for grabs and to defend.
00:46:43.000And, you know, then like now, you don't have a President Trump at the top of the ticket to help him out.
00:46:47.660I just hope that you will be zooming from your cell to my cell under the Kamala administration and we can continue to do the show when when the backlash.
00:46:57.220trash but i think a lot of republicans and a lot of trump people uh and i am a trump person you
00:47:02.680know three times voted for him all that stuff uh a lot of them i think i told them in the first
00:47:07.320year i said enjoy this guys this is as good as it's going to get the you know exult in the
00:47:12.100restoration of sanity in the shattering of of delusions that this administration will accomplish0.97
00:47:18.320because i'm telling you these democrats are insane and there's a lot of them and they will0.91
00:47:23.400be back in power at some point and they are going to be out for out for blood, unfortunately,0.98
00:47:28.760in a whole range of ways. So that's a concern. Here's here's my sense of that is like just just
00:47:35.180like that is the main concern. That's the main concern. I don't care about Iran. I care about
00:47:43.360America. I want the Republicans to stay in power. I'm not too big on either party, to be perfectly
00:47:48.720honest, which is why I've been a registered independent for 20 years. But as between the
00:47:52.960two, it's a no brainer. And these lunatics are openly talking about adding seats to the U.S.0.93
00:48:00.340Supreme Court, making Puerto Rico and D.C. additional states, getting rid of the filibuster0.67
00:48:07.160in the Senate so that they can pass through all of their aggressive agendas. And by the way,
00:48:11.440no filibuster in the Senate is a lot more dangerous when you have a Democrat power center
00:48:16.060in Washington than Republicans, because Republicans aren't big on pushing legislation.
00:48:19.820But Democrats are like this. This is the fight. And anything that undermines our fight in this
00:48:27.020respect, I'm against. And this war is hobbling the Trump administration and its electoral
00:48:33.360chances. And those are Republicans six months in advance of a hugely important vote.
00:48:39.620So this is the next thing I was going to say. And you and I are obviously seeing seeing this
00:48:44.980from a similar lens here is the focus has to return home for this election. Whatever one
00:48:52.560thinks of Iran, and I'm actually not somebody who is losing sleep at night about, again, I'm very0.99
00:48:57.480anti-Iranian. I was very happy when Soleimani got, you know, dusted by President Trump. I mean,
00:49:03.000I'm there. So I kind of come at this from, I think it's a complicated issue.
00:49:07.620I'm not pro-Iran, Buck. I get it. Trust me. I was on Fox News for 20 years. I'm not pro-Iran at all.
00:49:14.280fuck it, Ron. But I don't care about them. I don't want to bomb them. I believe Tulsi1.00
00:49:18.680Gabbard's intelligence assessment. I believe what President Trump said in June after we bombed the
00:49:22.780facilities. And I believe he needs to be focused on America, the United States of America. And gas
00:49:28.020prices do matter. They may not matter if your last name is Trump, but they matter to middle
00:49:32.840America who are obsessively, if you look at these social media boards, checking the gas prices and
00:49:37.500trying to find the cheapest gas in their neighborhood. That's how most Americans live.
00:49:41.480Well, it's important for everyone to know that 50 percent of gas goes into products and the prices that you're paying for gas are reflected also in the prices for the goods and services that you are buying on a tight budget day to day.
00:49:54.960So that's it's really about the cost of everything, because when gas is high, it affects so many things.
00:50:00.660Transport, you know, of the things that you buy.
00:50:03.020Anyway, yes, Trump needs to bring this home in every way.
00:54:51.800Okay, let's start with this lunatic who filed this lawsuit against the J.P. Morgan banker.
00:54:58.680So it turns out that this guy, he's now been outed his identity by the New York Post,
00:55:05.240And it turns out that he is not actually, as he claimed in his lawsuit yesterday, a subordinate to the woman he is accusing of having harassed him, that they were more on parallel tracks and that they ultimately reported up to different managing directors.0.80
00:55:24.480So contrary to the allegations in his lawsuit, this woman, he claims, was holding his promotion over his head unless he gave her oral sex and let her do oral sex on him, that this woman wasn't even in charge of his bonus or his future at J.P. Morgan.
00:55:40.980And while he tried to file this under a John Doe pseudonym, he quickly got outed by people at JP Morgan. His identity was known. He's left the firm. He's with another firm. It turns out he's been with multiple banks over the past 10, 12 years. Doesn't seem like he can keep a job at any one of them for any too long a time.0.95
00:56:01.980That's my own opinion based on what I'm seeing. I could be wrong. And on top of all that, it comes out that he yes, that there was a full investigation at J.P. Morgan, which we reported yesterday, and that they found absolutely no merit to this and that he wouldn't cooperate with it.
00:56:19.720And on top of all that, he's withdrawn the complaint temporarily, his lawyer says, to, quote, make corrections to it.
00:56:30.420But we're also told at the same time it's because he needed to jump through certain hoops in order to file as a John Doe and to keep it anonymous.
00:56:39.060And he's it's really just to do that, but that the complaint is going to be refiled.
00:56:43.140he's standing by his allegations and this young woman who her all of her friends jp morgan says
00:56:49.400she's totally above board she's like a consummate professional is now twisting in the wind denying
00:56:54.540everything denying it all but twisting in the wind as her face has been everywhere as like some bizarre
00:57:00.240pariah who couldn't keep her hands off of this guy isabel what do you make of it there are so
00:57:07.100many elements to this story megan i feel like i'm binge watching an entire hbo drama series on all
00:57:12.940of this. And frankly, if indeed it is true that this was all fabricated, as I'm sure we'll find
00:57:18.060out in the next few months, this guy shouldn't be a banker. He should be a fiction writer or
00:57:22.800working in Hollywood because the level of detail and creativity in all of these specific allegations,
00:57:29.060my jaw was on the floor watching you read them on your show yesterday. I feel terrible for his wife.
00:57:35.020I certainly feel terrible for this woman. If indeed all these accusations are false,
00:57:39.060that now that is what everyone is going to associate with her forever. And in the era of
00:57:43.100Me Too, we often think about this with potentially false allegations coming against men and tarnishing
00:57:48.080and destroying the reputations of men. It just as easily can come the other way around as well,
00:57:53.020which is why damaging culture here in the era of Me Too is so, so dangerous for people's honor,
00:58:00.020for their credibility, for their reputation. And it really cheapens what happens in actual
00:58:03.900circumstances of sexual harassment and assault. You know, I said yesterday, Priya, that I did
00:58:10.540not believe one word of this complaint. There is the notion that somehow she forced him to allow
00:58:22.220her to perform oral sex on him, and he alleges that, but he cried the whole time. That's just,0.98
00:58:29.420That's not a thing. I'm sorry, but that is not a thing where a woman forces a man to allow her to1.00
00:58:35.020give him a blow job. And he just this swinging guy at J.P. Morgan just tearfully makes his way0.95
00:58:41.740through it. I don't believe it. Maybe he'll prove me wrong in court, but I don't believe one word
00:58:46.340of it. And yet he puts it in the complaint. It goes everywhere. It was everywhere yesterday.
00:58:51.860The memes online were hilarious of like showing mobs running to of men to apply to J.P. Morgan.
00:58:59.420I know. I saw one person. The horses left the bar. I know. Exactly. I saw so many guys saying
00:59:04.740like, this guy's crying while he has my dream job. Okay. Like we'll, we'll trade that. I'm
00:59:09.300perfectly fine with that. Yeah. No, none of this has happened. I'm not convinced whatsoever. I was
00:59:14.560cracking up watching you read it yesterday on your show as well, Megan. I know Isabel said that too,
00:59:19.400but you know, it's just so unbelievably funny and it honestly sounds like every man's fantasy.
00:59:25.560So I think that's why it's so unbelievable to most of us, because no woman in the history of the world has ever referred to her breasts as cannons, I think is what she referred to it as.
00:59:38.740I've never heard that in my life. I would never dream of saying anything like that.
00:59:43.040I don't think anybody was genuinely convinced of this, especially the second that we saw his picture released.
00:59:47.920I mean, if you are a victim of this alleged, you know, sex slave scandal, then why exactly would you be so quick to hide?
00:59:57.500This is exactly like Isabel said, a problem with the Me Too movement is that it essentially erodes the basic premise that we have in this country.
01:00:04.780And that is innocent until proven guilty. And you automatically jump to being guilty if you're accused of any sexual assault, which, of course, like Isabel said, again, very much waters down the actual validity of sexual assault cases.
01:00:17.560And unfortunately, we see this time and time again, especially with men in this country.
01:00:21.740But now, of course, it can be just as damaging to women, too.
01:00:43.560And she's apparently extremely well respected.
01:00:46.640Her lawyer issued the following statement to the Post. Lorna categorically denies the allegation. She never engaged in any inappropriate conduct with this individual of any kind and has never even been to the location where the alleged sexual assault supposedly took place.
01:01:01.880Now, I actually do find that denial kind of interesting because if this were me and I had never laid a finger on this guy and like there was absolutely nothing between us, I think the denial would read there was never a sexual act between us of any kind.
01:01:22.600You know, like it's interesting to me that they go to she's never been in the location where the alleged sexual assault supposedly took place.
01:01:30.640That's that's not what my denial would sound like. It would be like, I've never touched this person and he's never touched me. So this goes back to my own theory on this case, which I espoused yesterday, which is they may have had an interlude, maybe one. I don't know. I don't think she's married, but he's married.
01:01:47.840and there could have been an interlude
01:01:50.460that maybe went bad or that he held against her.
01:01:53.860You know, it can work both ways that way.
01:01:55.700And maybe that's why her denial sounds like that.
01:02:17.840He filed this under John Doe. Why are we still doing this? Why are we still doing this, Isabel? Why are we allowing women to file under Jane Doe? And why are we allowing men to file under John Doe? Like, I'm sorry, I don't think there should be a special exception for outing your identity just because you claim to be a sexual assault victim and you might actually be a sexual assault.
01:02:39.760We don't do that for any other crime. The accuser has the right to know who is accusing him, and so does the public in assessing one's credibility. I'm sorry that it's more trauma for the person if it really happened to them, but I don't believe in this John and Jane Doe bullshit.
01:02:55.020Yeah, it's a harsh truth, Megan. And I think people have a hard time swallowing that because we certainly want to be sensitive to the reality that people have suffered trauma in situations of rape or sexual assault or harassment, especially in the workplace.
01:03:06.520It's awkward. It's uncomfortable. But if there was indeed an internal investigation and it didn't go in your favor and you find the need to file a formal lawsuit about all of this, clearly this is telling me this is wildly important to the trajectory of your life.
01:03:19.220And you should be 100 percent comfortable putting your name behind this because you are indeed accusing someone of something that's going to destroy their reputation and potentially their career for the rest of their life.
01:03:31.240If it turns out not to be true, this idea that you can hide behind a facade of an alias or just being completely anonymous does not happen for any other crime, violent or otherwise in the United States today.
01:03:43.060And it's weird to me that it continues to happen in this particular realm.
01:03:47.620Mm hmm. All right. I want to switch gears for a second. There was a big, big ruling out of the
01:03:52.080U.S. Supreme Court this week on voting rights, the Voting Rights Act. This, you know, back in the
01:03:57.2201940s and 50s, the terrible things were done mostly by Democrats to black voters to stop them from0.82
01:04:03.940voting and give them ridiculous tests to see if they could actually, you know, go into the ballot
01:04:10.040box and be trusted to cast a vote. And we needed a Voting Rights Act to protect their rights. And
01:04:14.640we implemented it and actually really turned things around. And it worked. It helped so much
01:04:19.080that it got rid of this problem and it got rid of this problem long ago. But Democrats never to
01:04:24.780give up an electoral tool that might help them. We're still using it to do things like gerrymander
01:04:31.120districts into being majority black districts so that they could work them to their electoral0.70
01:04:36.700advantage and claiming that that's that had to be or black voters would be disempowered in places
01:04:41.460like Louisiana. Well, this week, the Supreme Court finally said, and they've been toying with
01:04:45.300getting rid of this and they've been toying with dismantling the Voting Rights Act because it's
01:04:48.940time. I mean, it's been it's been 60 plus years now. And this this week, they finally got rid of
01:04:56.040sort of the last piece of the Voting Rights Act without without officially overturning the act.
01:04:59.720They were like, you don't need these racial gerrymanders and they're not constitutional.
01:05:03.220Well, you would think that with this single ruling, they have pushed us back to 1944 based on the way the left is reacting.
01:05:13.260All right. Here is Sonny Hostin of The View, who is a multimillionaire.
01:05:21.580Her son just graduated from Harvard, who is a black man.
01:05:27.440But listen to the way she talks about this ruling on The View, Sot 17.
01:05:31.780alito argued that the vast social change has occurred throughout the country and particularly
01:05:37.760in the south indicating that racism no longer exists in this country i can tell you as a black
01:05:44.940woman that my father was born in 1949 he remembers segregated schools he remembers segregated water
01:05:52.420fountains he remembers that he couldn't that he did not have full civil rights and he told me
01:05:57.180when i turned 40 years old that i was the first person in his family to enjoy full civil rights
01:06:03.960and he is still alive today and i am still alive today and i have been discriminated against and
01:06:09.220now i have to tell my children that they have less civil rights than i did when i was born
01:06:15.120that is disgusting despicable and i am devastated by this particular supreme court decision even
01:06:22.960Even though, Whoopi, we did know this was coming.
01:06:36.500I know Isabel's jaw is literally dropped.1.00
01:06:38.220It's incredible, Priya, to watch this incredibly privileged group of rich bitches act like they've had dogs sicked on them at the ballot box.1.00
01:09:33.140But listen to how they talk about Clarence Thomas in that segment.
01:09:36.360They are racist against Clarence Thomas because he does not believe that he is a Democrat because he can think freely for himself.
01:09:42.980And this is the same political party that ultimately started and funded the KKK, including as recently as five minutes ago through the Southern Poverty Law Center.
01:09:51.940because it turns out there is so little white supremacy in America that the SPLC and anti-hate
01:09:58.260groups actually have to pay off the KKK and orchestrate these things like the Charlottesville,
01:10:03.560Virginia, Unite the Right rally a few years ago, allegedly, as we will find out through all of
01:10:08.640these lawsuits. But they believe that black people lack the ability to think for themselves.0.97
01:10:13.700It is that plain and simple. They think they are too stupid. How about Joy explicitly saying,1.00
01:10:19.140how about Clarence Thomas? Did he stand up for his people, for his race, which is on the heels0.99
01:10:24.680of a soundbite we played, it was just yesterday, Jasmine Crockett being like, I'm a black woman
01:10:31.040first before she's a congresswoman. Now you tell me what would happen, Priya, if I was like,
01:10:37.080I'm a lawyer. Let's say I made it to the Supreme Court. First things first, I stand up for my race.
01:10:43.420My first principle is I stand up for the whites. I just want to make that clear. I'm here for the0.96
01:10:48.180whites first you would be a racist everybody else is secondary to me that's exactly right yeah or
01:10:52.060or what jasmine crockett said i as a congresswoman at first i'm a white woman i am a white before i'm0.99
01:10:58.460anything they say this shit like it's a normal thing to say like clarence thomas should be up0.97
01:11:04.700there to stand up for blacks as opposed to for the law for the constitution that's exactly right0.99
01:11:10.860i mean if anything it should be we live in america you are american first not not any sort of race
01:11:16.700And yeah, to your point, Megan, it's really funny that every other race in the world can actually stand up there and say, you know, I am a black woman first, I am a brown man first, whatever it might be.
01:11:28.960The one race that is excluded from being able to do that are whites.
01:11:33.320And for whatever reason, whites are always painted like they're the bad people.0.91
01:11:37.740When in reality, if you look across the world and all the good deeds that have ever been done, the large majority of them have been committed by whites.0.86
01:11:45.260whites were the ones to abolish slavery. I mean, a lot of them actually sacrificed their lives0.87
01:11:49.020to abolish slavery in this country. And white nations led the abolition of slavery globally.
01:11:55.660So I find it really ridiculous that anybody can sit up here and just paint white people as the bad0.79
01:12:01.340people when every other race looks virtuous. It's just ridiculous to me. How about we are just0.99
01:12:06.960American and we're people first? What they're doing is so dangerous because like if you make
01:12:12.660race the stakes of any conversation like it's okay to stand up for your people because you're black
01:12:18.620then that's that that's we're living through the backlash to that right now where especially young
01:12:23.960white men in some pockets have been told this over and over and over that it's okay to divide us by
01:12:28.440race and to lean into race essentialism that they're like okay fine then we'll do that and0.51
01:12:35.200they're much more focused on their whiteness and their race than they have been in decades like
01:12:39.800that kind of talk is genuinely dangerous. It's such bullshit that they're allowed to get away1.00
01:12:43.560with it. I want to keep going. Kamala Harris would never miss the chance to weigh in.1.00
01:12:48.360She's, uh, you know, she, the two things she genuinely feels strongly about are race and0.96
01:12:53.060abortion. Those are the two things she holds near and dear to her heart. Very bizarre things to latch
01:12:59.140onto as your big issues, but okay, that's what she really wants the babies to be able to be1.00
01:13:02.920killed in utero. And she thinks that skin color is everything. So here she is seeing an opportunity1.00
01:13:08.720to raise her currency and talk about the voting rights issue as a result of the Supreme Court
01:13:14.000decision. And there's a couple of things we want to talk about here. Look at SOT 16.
01:13:17.880OK, first of all, here's what she had to say. People would ask me, well, do you think they're
01:13:22.640going to try and cancel the elections? I don't think so, because if you thought no kings rallies
01:13:27.980were a thing, people would take to the streets if they tried to cancel elections. No, they have had
01:13:34.780an agenda that has been in place for decades to get to this very moment and beyond, which
01:13:42.740is to make it so difficult for the people to vote that they won't, because they know0.99
01:13:49.200the people are not stupid, and see the corrupt, incompetent, callous administration that is1.00
01:13:57.560in the White House right now. And they're so damn scared. They're so damn scared of losing1.00
01:14:09.000the midterms. Okay. I just want to show you the reaction by the black saxophonist who is on the
01:14:18.400stage with her as part of the band. Was he rallied by her points about the black vote and what's
01:14:25.500going to happen and they're her her prediction of doom and gloom he is asleep
01:14:30.420showing him now for the listening audience he is completely asleep his eyes are closed0.53
01:14:40.760like the rest of us he finds her an utter bore and so the irony is about as she tries to get people0.92
01:14:49.500upset and agitated. Only the white guy in the band is sitting there listening,
01:14:55.060full ears. And the black guy's like, when's my next sandwich?0.82
01:15:01.560I don't think people understand. He speaks for us all.
01:15:04.220Truly. I don't think people understand in the Democrat elite that the majority of the country
01:15:08.580did indeed vote for Donald Trump. We've known this for well over a year now. This is not new
01:15:14.100information, but they actually think that this is such a crazy fascist dictatorship overhaul of
01:15:20.020society that 99% of people are disenfranchised by the Trump administration when well over half
01:15:25.980the country actually voted for them. And honestly, I'm just so sick and tired, Megan,
01:15:29.460of hearing all of these Democrats talk about how the Republicans are making it so hard
01:15:33.560for people to vote. I currently live in Northern Virginia, and we certainly have been under a
01:15:38.380microscope for the last several weeks with Virginia's attempt to gerrymander the entire
01:15:42.040state that's still in flux, but essentially disenfranchising 50% of the state. But they've
01:15:47.680already said it should be illegal for a ballot that could be counted by a machine to be counted
01:15:53.440by hand. What could possibly go wrong in Virginia? Voter ID has been here. This is a nationwide
01:16:00.840attempt to disenfranchise real people by attempting to gerrymander every district,1.00
01:16:05.800by letting machines control all of our elections and letting illegal immigrants come in by the0.95
01:16:10.300tens of millions into our country to vote instead of American citizens. You do not respect democracy,1.00
01:16:16.080actually. I love I love how she's like, you know, they think we're dumb. It's like you're the one1.00
01:16:21.340who said that blacks couldn't figure out how to produce a voter I.D. All right. You're the one1.00
01:16:25.780who suggested they couldn't understand how to like Xerox a license. So stop. Right. Just stop.
01:16:32.880OK. Speaking of elite and out of touch, well-known people, I'm not going to call her a celebrity,
01:17:25.320And then she says, oh, no, just find something you deeply love to do.
01:17:28.980You tell me, as a young person yourself, how realistic either of those two options is for most young people today.
01:17:35.220In this economy, not at all, unfortunately. I mean, I think we all wish that we could quit our jobs and do what we love. And for a lot of women, that's going to be stay home and be a mother and a wife. But unfortunately, our economy doesn't allow that. For many, many decades now, the system has essentially been rigged against that. And now we have such an affordability crisis. I mean, I live in California. And let me tell you, it is expensive to live anywhere in the state, let alone Los Angeles, where I currently reside.
01:18:02.240And to just say that young people should just be quitting their job simply because they don't like it or are unhappy in them is pretty unrealistic.
01:18:10.580I mean, we all wish, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.
01:18:15.260I mean, it's like so out of touch, Isabel, like this.
01:18:19.320It's just it's not a huge deal. Right. But it is indicative of a certain attitude.
01:18:24.100She's got millions. Right. You can't just quit.
01:20:44.080Think about this. I mean, this guy, like, he could be talking about anything right now as he feels, you know, his life in the balance. And this is one of the things he wanted to bring up. This was on the extra portion, the overtime portion of Sunday, of 60 Minutes on Sunday. Listen to what he said, Sat 31.
01:21:01.420All across the industrialized rich world, people have just stopped having babies in the last couple of decades.
01:21:08.260We're at replacement rate, birth rates, nowhere in the industrialized world except Mormons and Jewish populations in Israel and in some parts of the U.S.0.62
01:21:19.860Except for those two categories, every other industrialized nation has stopped having babies.0.63
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01:31:04.380Isabel Brown and Priya Patel are back with me now. So ladies, this week in the House of
01:31:10.000Representatives, there was a hearing on the FACE Act, which people have come to know a lot about
01:31:15.220recently, thanks to Don Lamon, because the FACE Act not only prevents you from protesting in
01:31:20.960certain ways, an abortion clinic or a pregnancy and childbirth center, it also prevents you from
01:31:27.840storming a church like Don Lamon and his friends did in St. Paul, Minnesota. But there's been
01:31:34.300long an objection to federal law criminalizing this kind of thing by people who are pro-life
01:31:42.760and think this law gets overused only on pro-lifers.
01:31:47.620And there have been questions about whether this is necessary in any event.
01:31:51.340Like if somebody crosses into the face of an abortion-seeking woman,
01:31:54.760that would generally be a matter for state law and the local police.
01:31:59.700And so the House held a hearing on what they called the,
01:32:02.760they said, from tool to weapon, the FACE Act and the dangers of federalizing criminal law.
01:32:08.100So they took a look at the Biden-Harris administration's,
01:32:10.960what they called weaponization of the FACE Act. And that's what the hearing was about. And there
01:32:15.340was a woman who I believe was called by the Democrats. Her name is Jessica Waters. She
01:32:20.780teaches at American University. She is a senior scholar in residence, justice, law, and criminology.
01:32:28.180She fancies herself some sort of an expert in U.S. reproductive rights. And Brandon Gill,
01:32:35.900who I think is most of our VIP in the House of Representatives, he's just so good. His
01:32:40.300cross-examination is amazing. He's just so effective. And I also love that he is Dinesh
01:32:45.540D'Souza's son-in-law. He laid into this woman. And for once, like you never hear this done.
01:32:53.800He just refused to accept the whole reproductive rights thing as a summary for what abortion is
01:33:02.960and what we're really talking about when we're talking about abortion and these clinics and
01:33:08.400what goes on at them. I'm going to play the soundbite. I do warn the audience. It's very
01:33:12.780graphic and it is disturbing because so is the procedure. Here he is cross-examining this
01:33:20.140Jessica Waters. You're an advocate for abortion, for abortion policy. What's your favorite type
01:33:26.700of abortion? I am an advocate for patients having access to the full realm of reproductive health
01:33:33.660care. But do you have a preferred method of abortion that you like? I do not. First type
01:33:39.180is called a suction abortion. This is when the cervix is dilated and a strong suction 29 times
01:33:47.580the power of a household vacuum cleaner tears the baby's body apart and sucks it through the
01:33:52.880hose into a container. Do you prefer that method? I stand by my former testimony. That sounds kind
01:33:59.800of gross, doesn't it? Sounds pretty gruesome. You don't want to talk about abortion itself. Why is
01:34:06.080that? I would prefer to talk about the reason that the committee called the hearing. Is it
01:34:09.660because it's uncomfortable to talk about? It should be uncomfortable. I would prefer to talk
01:34:14.900about the reason the hearing was called and the basis of my expert testimony. It's uncomfortable
01:34:19.460to hear this, isn't it? It is. I think it is because it's barbaric and evil. It went on for
01:34:27.480many minutes and he went through all of the methods and they got progressively gruesome.
01:34:33.540The one we just aired was the least offensive of the bunch. It's very jarring. And Isabel,
01:34:42.940you never hear it. You never, even Republicans never do this. Even pro-lifers never do this.
01:34:50.880And it's extremely effective to hear somebody actually say what it is.
01:34:55.500It is, Megan, and it should make anyone listening to that uncomfortable, whether you call yourself a pro-lifer or a pro-choicer when really the only choice truly presented is often abortion or anywhere in between.
01:35:07.520It's because we have swept this under the rug for the last 70 plus years in American culture and politics that so many people today don't even know what an abortion procedure actually is.
01:35:17.760I speak on college campuses nationwide about this topic quite often because college students feel very strongly about it, particularly young women, as they are pandered to by the Democrat Party, that this is the only thing that we should ever be voting on is our genitalia and our reproductive rights.
01:35:33.100But the minute that you start unpacking what an abortion procedure actually is, I see this not just in the halls of Congress like you saw in that clip, but in college campus rooms as well, where people start squirming in their seat because it is the death, the intentional destruction, the murder of an innocent life in the most gruesome ways possible.
01:35:49.940And Brandon Gill did an amazing job outlining that.
01:35:53.100The audacity to testify as an expert, a subject matter expert, as an abortion advocate and
01:35:58.880refuse to acknowledge what an abortion actually is, I hope wakes a lot of people up in this
01:36:12.960The woman's reaction, Priya, to sit there and not even acknowledge she—like, this is the whole thing with the pro-choice crew, you know, the pro-abortion crew, that they won't go there.0.61
01:36:32.220They have to treat an unborn baby like it's just a clump of cells, like it's not a killing, right?
01:36:40.900Like, it's not a killing. They can't acknowledge even how disturbing that description sounds to any sane person.
01:36:48.540Even if you believe in abortion, even if you believe in a woman's right to have an abortion, you can't acknowledge how upsetting that sounds and then defend it.
01:36:59.100You know, and we've let them get away with that for too long.0.89
01:37:02.020Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, you hit the nail on the head there in terms of them referring to it as just a clump of cells.
01:37:07.680They tried to dehumanize abortion left and right.
01:37:33.660They don't understand how barbaric and gruesome that this is whatsoever.
01:37:36.520And for Brandon to actually get up there and actually make this woman confront the reality of the thing that she's defending is so important.
01:37:44.020And we need to see more of it because it is a very uncomfortable truth to face.
01:37:48.220You saw how uncomfortable she was and she was sitting there as a staunch defender of it.
01:37:53.360Yeah, it's not like she was about to have an abortion.
01:37:55.800She was in a House testimony just talking about words and descriptions of what is done in these procedures.
01:38:01.960You know, one of the battles that we've seen in the abortion area over the year is sometimes Republicans have passed laws requiring the would-be abortive mother to look at a photo of the fetus before she has the abortion.
01:38:16.940And that has been struck down by courts over and over as too much of an impingement on the right.