The Megyn Kelly Show - New Video of WHCD Shooter, and Major Questions About Male Accuser in JP Morgan Exec Story, with Buck Sexton, Isabel Brown, and Priya Patel ｜ Ep. 1308

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00:01:00.700 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:12.400 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Happy Friday and happy May.

00:01:17.540 We made it to May. That's such good news. That definitely means long stretches of great weather

00:01:23.640 coming our way at some point soon, we hope. We've got updates in the lawsuit that we brought to you

00:01:31.400 yesterday against the female J.P. Morgan executive. Oh, my gosh. That case was everywhere yesterday.

00:01:38.920 The memes were hysterical. They wrote themselves. And I've got some friends at J.P. Morgan with whom

00:01:46.140 I texted and we were laughing. I mean, it's just the absurdity of this guy's allegations,

00:01:52.260 as we pointed out yesterday, are just pretty apparent, but we'll tell you what the update is.

00:01:58.420 Okay. First, however, we have breaking news on the latest in the investigation

00:02:01.980 into the assassination attempt against President Trump Saturday at the White House

00:02:06.080 Correspondents' Dinner. Yesterday, 31-year-old Cole Allen, a self-proclaimed devout Christian

00:02:12.740 and graduate of the prestigious Caltech University, did not challenge his pretrial

00:02:18.080 detention, meaning he will remain behind bars until his trial. I mean, that was happening no

00:02:22.760 matter what, but even he agrees it needs to happen. He's charged with one count of attempting

00:02:28.160 to assassinate the president and two firearms counts. He faces up to life in prison. He's

00:02:33.780 currently incarcerated in the same D.C. jail complex that housed many of the J-6 defendants,

00:02:39.760 and he's due back in court on May 11th for another pretrial hearing. Now, it's no wonder he did not 0.94

00:02:46.280 fight the pretrial custody matter yesterday because, look, the surveillance video that

00:02:51.260 was released by the Department of Justice that same day, it's all there, black and white.

00:02:58.280 According to the DOJ, Cole was planning his attack for at least a few weeks.

00:03:02.780 They allege that on April 6th, he booked a room in the Washington Hilton to be occupied

00:03:09.260 between April 24th and April 26th.

00:03:12.580 The White House Correspondents' Dinner was, of course, on Saturday night in that hotel, April 25th.

00:03:18.340 Here's Cole.

00:03:19.340 We're going to show you the videos here.

00:03:20.960 Inside the hotel on April 24th.

00:03:23.460 That was Friday, around 9 p.m.

00:03:25.100 Walking down the hallway, appearing in motion toward a doorway, just calm, calmly walking.

00:03:31.860 It's unclear what floor this is in the building.

00:03:33.840 The DOJ did not say when it released this video.

00:03:38.440 But that definitely does not look like he was just going for a relaxing stroll, actually,

00:03:42.300 because there's more. This is Friday night inside the hotel. He can be seen walking into the hotel's

00:03:49.780 gym. Look at him. He's got his jeans on. He's got his shirt on. What's he doing in there?

00:03:55.280 He has a long sleeve shirt. He obviously is not about to work out. So what's he doing?

00:04:00.000 He talks to a hotel worker at a desk and he smiles during the conversation. He walks around

00:04:06.220 for a bit and then leaves. And then approximately three minutes later, we see him walking back

00:04:12.280 down the same hallway. He does not appear to be in a hurry. He glances toward a door that is

00:04:18.860 closing. So there are already a lot of questions here. A single man takes a train from L.A. to D.C.,

00:04:25.880 checks into the hotel where the president will be the next night and is on surveillance video

00:04:30.600 suspiciously checking out the area. Looks a little odd. I mean, you'd have to think if

00:04:37.240 Secret Service were working in coordination with the hotel security as they should have been,

00:04:44.200 this might have been an issue that could get flagged. Honestly, having worked so much with

00:04:49.060 security, private security, I can tell you this would get flagged. If you had a security team

00:04:53.780 doing its job, it would get flagged. And now we get to the night of the attempted assassination.

00:04:58.980 Here's Alan walking down the same hallway, very same hallway, at 8.23 p.m. The president was on

00:05:07.060 the dais at this point. He got there at 8.15. Again, it does not appear that he's in a hurry.

00:05:12.260 Remember, the event started at 8 p.m. Trump was on stage by around 8.15. This is after that.

00:05:17.340 By 8.36 p.m., coal is now near the security perimeter. And you must watch this zoomed-in

00:05:25.360 version of the video released by the DOJ. Look at this. You see Allen walk through an open door

00:05:31.920 near the Secret Service security team.

00:05:35.300 And at that very second, a law enforcement canine follows him.

00:05:39.620 The dog clearly senses something is off with Alan

00:05:42.500 and may smell the gunpowder associated with the bullets.

00:05:46.420 The dogs are trained on that.

00:05:48.260 You see the dog's handler speaking with someone, presumably Alan.

00:05:52.660 This is crazy.

00:05:54.000 And he talks to him for over 10 seconds.

00:05:55.800 Then the officer pulls the dog away and begins to walk back down the hall.

00:05:59.980 About one second later, Alan comes running out of the doorway with his gun in both hands and runs toward the checkpoint.

00:06:10.700 He's taking down the mag right here.

00:06:13.360 You can see the cop here taking down the one mag, and you can see the cop in the background with the other dog, and there's Alan.

00:06:20.340 run through the other mag at, you know, a reasonable pace, and all the Secret Service

00:06:27.240 agents now getting into position for a potential confrontation. The full video shows the dog

00:06:33.900 taking an interest in Alan in the upper left, circled there, before he sprints past security,

00:06:41.160 who then draw their weapons. Here on the screen, you can see a white circle. This is where Alan's

00:06:46.200 going to appear. There's two mags, one next to each other, sort of like one looks like it's for,

00:06:51.860 I mean, I'm sure they had both people, both used with people coming through.

00:06:55.820 And they took down one and here he comes. As soon as they get down the one, he comes out

00:06:59.280 and he runs. Then the officers draw their weapons. Five shots were fired at Allen.

00:07:05.800 None hit him before law enforcement apprehended him. Still one floor above where Trump was on

00:07:12.820 stage. You see it again, this time with video speed decreased to 35%. You can see more clearly

00:07:21.080 an exchange of fire. One secret service, here he is coming through. He runs right through,

00:07:27.500 I don't know, seven, eight law enforcement right around him. One secret service officer hit,

00:07:34.080 but protected by his bulletproof vest. U.S. Attorney for D.C. Janine Pirro writing on X in

00:07:39.700 a post that included the new surveillance video, quote, today we are releasing video

00:07:43.300 showing Cole Allen shoot a U.S. Secret Service officer during his attempt to assassinate the

00:07:49.060 president at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. There is no evidence the shooting

00:07:53.180 was the result of friendly fire. That had been a question about whether it was.

00:07:59.740 The Secret Service director, Sean Curran, who has been under scrutiny and criticism in the wake of

00:08:05.220 this, among other incidents with the president being exposed. Yesterday went on Fox News and

00:08:11.360 gave more information about what happened and also defended his agency's actions at the event.

00:08:17.080 The suspect shot our officer point blank range with a shotgun. Our officer heroically returned

00:08:25.220 fire while being shot point blank range in the chest with a shotgun. It was able to get off

00:08:30.180 five shots. It's great training. The officer just acted heroically. That officer, while being shot,

00:08:38.000 was in the process of falling down and was returning gunfire. To be shot at is not a

00:08:43.840 pleasant thing. And to be able to actually return fire in that rate of speed is just remarkable.

00:08:51.320 And but the suspect was never hit correctly. Correct. He was never hit by a bullet. That is

00:08:55.740 correct. The suspect was not hit. How did he go to the ground? It appears that the suspect

00:09:01.580 hit his knee while being engaged by the officer on one of our magnetometer boxes and began to

00:09:09.920 fall to the ground. That's what appears to be. And at that moment is when officers and agents

00:09:15.900 were able to subdue him and pile on top of him. The site was set up perfectly. I will tell you,

00:09:23.060 would not change the site again. Okay. So has no regrets, wouldn't change a thing. And by the way,

00:09:30.700 confirming there, Susan Crabtree of Real Clear Politics exclusive reporting that they actually

00:09:36.180 didn't take the suspect down. He tripped, he fell. And then they got on top of him.

00:09:44.640 I'm sure he fell in relation to the fact that bullets were flying at him too. So I don't mean

00:09:49.260 to take that away from the Secret Service, but I mean, I think it's a stretch to declare this

00:09:53.880 just a total victory. You wouldn't do anything differently? Really? Nothing? I mean, what if

00:10:00.020 people had been milling about? What about the latecomers to the correspondence dinner?

00:10:04.900 What about hotel staff? What about the VIPs, all of whom had to go through that same spot?

00:10:10.180 I mean, it's just, okay. I've got absolutely nothing against Secret Service. In fact,

00:10:15.080 I love a lot of those guys, but let's be honest, this was not perfectly handled.

00:10:18.980 Joining me now to react is Buck Sexton.

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00:11:40.040 I don't, I mean, I'm sure he's doing PR here, you know, but like, is that what he should be doing

00:11:47.040 Can't he say, you know, had I had it to do over again, we probably would have expanded the perimeter.

00:11:52.860 We probably would have made sure that the Secret Service agents were not dismantling the magnetometers before the event was over.

00:11:59.860 It wouldn't have been a situation where we were opening fire in the lobby of the Hilton.

00:12:06.080 I don't know. You tell me.

00:12:07.220 You know, Megan, this is this is complicated in that there are some things that have come out here that look a little bit actually better for the Secret Service than initially.

00:12:17.900 And then there are some things that confirm, in my mind, some of the deficiencies.

00:12:22.440 So to your overall point and just by way of background, I mean, I'm formerly a CIA analyst, but I also worked at the NYPD Intelligence Division and the NYPD Intelligence Division used to do a lot of dignitary protection.

00:12:36.560 So the guys that I worked with and some of the missions that we had involved, you know, if if a foreign head of state visits New York City to go to the U.N. or something, my team or rather my my office would be in charge of doing security for that individual.

00:12:51.720 I'm also a pistol instructor. So there's kind of a few different levels here.

00:12:55.100 A tactical pistol instructor down here in South Florida. It's kind of a side hustle. It's a lot of fun.

00:12:59.380 um and so a few things come a few things by way megan if you you and dog ever come down i'll take

00:13:04.980 you guys we'll have a great time at the range um but i would love that oh yeah we'd have so much

00:13:09.580 fun you just let me know but i i'd say this about it a few things one it's it's not perfect but

00:13:15.220 here's here's what you see from the secret service uh head here he knows that his agency what

00:13:19.980 happened in butler and then what happened in west palm beach has destroyed public faith in the secret

00:13:25.240 service. I might add rightly so. The Butler situation was so bad that people coming up

00:13:31.860 with conspiracies could look at you and say, they really just let the guy walk up there and take the

00:13:37.660 most obvious sniper position on a president who's been under more, right? So those clearly were as

00:13:43.680 big as screw ups. We just, it was the hand of God that pushed that bullet just a little bit

00:13:49.100 to the side of trump i mean it was a complete miracle now in this situation a few things one

00:13:55.860 is the the guy happened to run right when one of you see one of the magnetometers is down and so

00:14:03.880 and i think he was lucky i can't tell if i don't think he could see from the stairwell though the

00:14:08.380 the dog of course as you pointed out dogs always know the dog knew something was up and that's why

00:14:13.560 they're so useful in personnel and site protection because they're incredible. It's amazing how the

00:14:19.600 dog knew they are trained to smell gunpowder. It's not just bombs they can detect. They can detect

00:14:24.220 they can detect detect bullets. Oh, and they can detect a person who is who is sweating super

00:14:29.680 nervously. I mean, you know, they can even get into the almost emotional content, if you will,

00:14:34.120 of a would be shooter. They know something is up. And anybody who has a dog understands their

00:14:39.340 ability to read these things. Why can't I have a dog like that? I have a dog that eats its own

00:14:43.820 crap. But I'm sure he's very fluffy. I'm sure he's very fluffy. But yeah, so these dogs have 0.99

00:14:51.760 obviously a tremendous amount, whether I couldn't tell in the video if it's a German Shepherd or a

00:14:55.360 Malinois, those are the two breeds they most often use. They have a tremendous amount of training.

00:14:58.820 So the dog did its job. Then you look at the magnetometer down. That created a situation

00:15:03.840 where you had people who for a moment they were all looking kind of at the because this

00:15:09.580 magnetometer you know it just was this human reaction of oh there's this thing that's going

00:15:13.500 to the ground when you watch it and there are a few people there who are tsa who i believe were

00:15:18.520 not armed as i understand it who are right next to the magnetometer so in this situation they're

00:15:23.540 largely they're going to be useless some people think the tsa is you know useless in general the

00:15:28.760 people against the wall yes the people against the wall exactly so they're they're not i mean 0.55

00:15:33.020 when someone's running with a gun they're not about to try to tackle and go go superhero but

00:15:37.180 the other individuals you can tell obviously who drew firearms um this is a reminder i might add

00:15:42.380 of something that's very important they ran away there they are running away buck i mean i guess

00:15:46.160 who can blame them they don't have guns and he does yeah i don't i don't think it's fair to you

00:15:50.380 notice the guys with the guns engaged and they a couple of them drew pretty quickly and and you

00:15:55.380 know remember it's really easy you know to think about that moment i try to tell people this we

00:16:01.080 were talking about a dog before i won't say you know if you lost your kid because that's so

00:16:04.840 horrible but imagine if you think in the park you've lost your dog and that that adrenaline

00:16:09.400 dump that you have when you think you're under a real threat that adrenaline dump happens and now

00:16:15.340 your fine motor skills become far more difficult so it's very easy at like a range or whatever to

00:16:21.800 train for this stuff but until you've had a situation where a maniac is running at you with

00:16:26.780 a shotgun at close range. You know, it's just it's a lot easier to Monday. It's very easy to

00:16:32.880 Monday morning quarterback all of this stuff. I think the guys with the guns did pretty well.

00:16:36.740 It's amazing that this guy just to say, like, if we can rewrack that video, you guys, it's the guy

00:16:41.760 who who's you can see police on the back of their shirt right here at the bottom left of our screen

00:16:48.380 who gets the shots off right here. It's happening right now. It's not the guy in the suit who's

00:16:52.480 obviously Secret Service. It's a cop, says police, and he's firing. You can see the

00:16:56.380 the shots coming out of his gun right there with the gunpowder. And it's amazing that there wasn't

00:17:03.200 anybody hurt via friendly fire, especially suit man. And it's kind of amazing that not one shot

00:17:09.520 hit the perpetrator. And then we are told that the perpetrator got off one shot, which is how

00:17:17.460 the agent, yeah, right there. It was right there. But the agent, but the cop was fine because he had

00:17:22.640 his vest on. But like, God, this could have gone a lot worse. Yeah, that cop is I mean, at that

00:17:27.120 distance, first of all, something that that people always train and even the most basic,

00:17:32.400 like tactical 101 self-defense firearms training, Megan, is the rule of threes, they call it

00:17:37.520 three yards, three seconds, three shots. And that is roughly 90 percent, 80 percent depends on,

00:17:46.440 you know, how you look at the FBI data, how gun how gunfights actually happen. People are within

00:17:52.160 In 10 feet, 3 yards, the whole thing takes 3 seconds or less, and 3 shots are exchanged.

00:17:58.560 So when people are thinking about it, and obviously law enforcement has to deal with this all the time,

00:18:02.400 most people think, oh, if I'm in a gunfight, it's going to be like in the movie where you're shooting, they're shooting, you're aiming.

00:18:08.060 Actually, a lot of the time in a gunfight, you're never even going to get the sights up to eye level.

00:18:13.260 So you'll be shooting, if you're trained properly, right out of the draw, basically from the hip,

00:18:18.760 and then you're continuing to shoot as you're extending out. 0.97

00:18:20.840 so this the individual that is okay corral shit yeah i mean but that's when you think about it 0.98

00:18:26.320 right that that half second makes all the difference because if you can get that shot 0.98

00:18:29.580 on target first before the other person extends so the secret service director is not wrong when

00:18:34.460 he says hey look that guy took that guy took a 12 game round in the chest and and he still got

00:18:39.540 shots off that makes it a lot more understandable as well that he could fire i mean it's like

00:18:44.400 getting hit with a baseball bat now he's okay thankfully i will say that it's it's lucky that

00:18:49.860 the people those tsa agents they are lucky they did not get hit in the crossfire um but that's

00:18:55.680 and soup man yeah and but that's certainly better for the secret service initially based on the

00:19:00.760 video a lot of people were saying hold on a second i was actually concerned or i thought it

00:19:05.200 was possible that there was a crossfire incident where it might have been friendly fire because

00:19:08.900 people in that close proximity so that's kind of the ballistics oh and also the a lot of people

00:19:13.900 think shotgun because you know they like elmer fudd and they're you know it's like it's going to

00:19:18.480 be this huge spread um it's not bird shot i believe what he had in there was was a double

00:19:24.060 double o buck uh no pun intended and uh that at a really close range is going to be about a two to

00:19:31.840 three inch spread it's not actually and it spreads out the more it goes so that would have hit him

00:19:37.160 essentially like a fist that's why it could have all hit him in the vest so so so those are the

00:19:41.800 those are the ballistic sides of it on the security part of it which you brought up

00:19:46.300 Now, this is where I think it gets, oh, well, one thing also,

00:19:50.320 that there was no blocking position by the magnetometers,

00:19:54.860 that nobody was there to physically obstruct.

00:19:58.860 That I think, if you're really going to assess this and be totally fair,

00:20:02.620 that's a demerit.

00:20:05.440 That's a points taken off for that.

00:20:08.240 You can't have a situation where someone can just run, as we saw.

00:20:11.120 There should have at least been a physical presence there,

00:20:13.300 which would have slowed them down more.

00:20:15.220 Now, the cordon thing, this is tough because, as you know, big events happen in D.C.

00:20:18.760 and they have to have them in these hotel auditoriums.

00:20:22.140 No hotel is going to want to have a cordon that goes, you know, two blocks and magnetometers set up looking for looking for anyone carrying weapons and all this sort of thing.

00:20:32.760 So there is a logistics challenge.

00:20:34.740 I know people get so mad when Trump says and his team saying this is why the ballroom makes sense.

00:20:40.780 The ballroom makes sense.

00:20:42.560 I don't know what else to like this. This is actually a good idea. They could have far better control. It'll be a nicer venue for for a lot of these events that involve the president, including future Democrat presidents, because it's hard to secure a site like this without putting undue burden on on the venue.

00:21:02.800 Yeah, but the White House Correspondents Dinner is never happening in the White House ballroom.

00:21:06.280 Like, I don't have thoughts on the ballroom, but this event is never happening on the White House grounds, ever, period.

00:21:14.180 By the way, you'd have to cut the guest list in half.

00:21:15.900 I think it's going to be a big, beautiful ballroom, Megan, the most beautiful.

00:21:20.220 You're not a ballroom person.

00:21:21.380 I think it's going to be nice, but anyway.

00:21:23.240 I don't care.

00:21:24.040 I don't really have thoughts on it one way or the other.

00:21:26.120 I just think this event is never going into a White House ballroom.

00:21:29.780 It's just not going to.

00:21:30.640 And you'd have to cut the attendance list in half, which is one of the first reasons why they're not going to agree to it.

00:21:36.980 And secondly, they're not going to want the president hosting it.

00:21:40.340 You know, like this is not an event that should be hosted by the White House.

00:21:43.840 It's an event that is hosted by the press for the press.

00:21:47.700 The president comes maybe as a guest, but it's different if you make him the host of the whole thing.

00:21:53.780 That's now you're his guest, which changes the whole dynamic.

00:21:57.280 It just that's not what's going to happen.

00:21:58.760 I think you're probably right on all that.

00:22:00.840 I would say, one, I've only been to the White House Correspondents' Dinner once,

00:22:04.420 and it was at the very beginning of my media career, and I thought it was—

00:22:07.660 And that's plenty.

00:22:08.620 Yeah.

00:22:08.940 Plenty. 1.00

00:22:09.220 It sucks. 0.97

00:22:10.000 The other parties can be kind of fun because you can see your friends and, you know, people can drink and have fun. 0.98

00:22:14.540 The actual dinner goes on forever.

00:22:17.020 It's boring.

00:22:17.800 It's a lot of people that you don't like and respect taking photos of themselves and being smug.

00:22:21.440 Self-congratulatory. 1.00

00:22:22.460 Yeah, it's crap. 0.98

00:22:23.000 So it's not actually, like, a really worthwhile event at all, in my opinion. 0.98

00:22:26.020 But put that put that, you know, to the side for a second. I'm going to I'm taking a hard turn here.

00:22:32.660 You know, we used to do when I was in the CIA Iraq office doing analysis, we would analyze security situation in different cities and in different neighborhoods and cities. 0.97

00:22:42.660 And one of the huge things this is in the era of IEDs. Now we're in the era of drones, which we can talk about.

00:22:47.800 But IEDs were like the new terrible threat that we were facing in that on that battlefield space and suicide bombers, obviously.

00:22:56.940 And so we would think about security through the context of did they break through the cordon and were they able to get sort of interior casualties?

00:23:06.060 these because it's unrealistic especially in a situation like that to say well we're going to be

00:23:11.240 so secure that even the outer ring of security like where they're going to sweep the cars where

00:23:16.380 they're going to if somebody wants to drive up to the outer ring of your security and start shooting

00:23:21.400 at you that's that's actually the security functioning properly right i mean that's because

00:23:26.280 because that's as much as you so if somebody let's say were to show up at the white house

00:23:29.380 correspondence dinner like this guy and start shooting at secret service guys who are set up

00:23:35.200 to check people, okay, well, they're going to engage. And that's certainly not a Secret Service

00:23:39.820 failure or anything. That's what they're there for. That's doing their job. I think the part of

00:23:43.740 this that has people a little bit rattled about it is, well, one, the Secret Service's reputation

00:23:49.380 is in the toilet. And unfortunately, it should be because, I mean, who knows what the country

00:23:55.280 looks like if that situation in Butler had gone differently where they completely, horrifically

00:23:59.720 fell down on the job. But also the fact that he was able to break through and run through like

00:24:04.980 this it reminds people okay megan what if he had had what if it was two or three guys and they had 0.89

00:24:11.500 had a reasonable amount of tactical training this guy's this guy's a clown a psycho and he's going 0.50

00:24:18.480 to spend the rest of his life in prison i mean not that this is funny but you know what i mean he has 0.99

00:24:21.860 no he has no ability no skill set whatsoever other than to run and fire a gun off at somebody

00:24:27.820 who's not paying attention um if you had a couple of guys who knew how to you know move in two by

00:24:34.000 two or you know four guys moving two by two cover formation if you had guys who understood how to

00:24:38.100 clear rooms uh guys who had uh rifles could do quick mag changes maybe had some explosives on

00:24:44.860 them how far would they have gotten through this cordon and that's i think something that keeps

00:24:49.920 people way more on edge because donald trump is going to be under threat every day until the end

00:24:57.180 of his presidency hopefully not thereafter but certainly every day from now to the end of his

00:25:01.940 presidency. This is not going to stop. No, it's not. And I have to say, like, I this is I've been

00:25:09.480 through this magnetometer situation at the top of the escalators many, many times. I've gone into

00:25:14.980 many, many of these dinners. And this is too close to civilization. This is whatever the outer

00:25:20.800 perimeter needed to be in order to get people through the mags and so on should not have been

00:25:25.260 so close to civilization because this is basically a hotel lobby. I'm not saying it's right smack dab

00:25:31.060 in the middle of the lobby. They push it off to the side. But this easily could have had

00:25:34.360 civilians milling about, people getting there late. I mean, this was like one of the main

00:25:38.540 entrances to get into the event. And no one's life is worth more than another's, including

00:25:43.980 the president's. He's not worth more than any random attendee. But I'm just saying there were

00:25:49.000 a lot of dignitaries there, a lot of cabinet officials, a lot of famous members of the press.

00:25:54.740 It just would have been extremely jarring for the public to see any one of those people get shot

00:26:00.700 while trying to enter this event.

00:26:02.620 So it's like none of this.

00:26:04.100 I think they plan these events,

00:26:05.940 unfortunately, thinking nothing will happen.

00:26:08.960 That's what my impression is.

00:26:10.440 They plan them now thinking nothing will happen,

00:26:13.060 whereas the assumption should be

00:26:15.120 something absolutely is going to happen.

00:26:17.900 And how do we prepare against it?

00:26:20.040 It feels to me, I won't speak for you, obviously,

00:26:22.620 and I'm on your show,

00:26:23.380 so you can tell me what you would grade them.

00:26:25.080 To me, this is like Secret Service,

00:26:28.500 maybe getting a gentleman's B or a B minus for the performance on this one.

00:26:34.240 This is, but this is, it's nowhere.

00:26:36.120 I mean, Butler was a capital red F.

00:26:40.440 I mean, Butler was as bad as the Secret Service could be.

00:26:43.600 West Palm was maybe a C, you know, especially, or a C minus.

00:26:48.460 This is a B, you know, maybe a B minus situation.

00:26:51.900 Look, no one was killed.

00:26:53.580 Don't you think, why are we getting B's on a president

00:26:57.700 who's already had literally three assassination attempts prior to this, if you include the guy

00:27:02.260 who showed up at Mar-a-Lago with the explosive materials or the fire materials. But simply,

00:27:07.900 like, there should only be A's at this point forward. You know very well he's, like, the most

00:27:13.520 sought-after president when it comes to murder. Like, we need to up our game.

00:27:18.520 Oh, no, well, that's definitely true. I think the answer to the question, though,

00:27:21.280 unfortunately, Megan, is to take some time for an institute. Now, you could say it shouldn't.

00:27:26.360 this is top priority and that's all true as well but to reform an institution like this and get

00:27:31.260 the people in place look i i don't i don't want to be um dismissive you know i'm very honest like

00:27:36.440 about you know the cia is not james bond and we're not all karate chopping in black tie and

00:27:41.580 shooting i know it's a shame i wish it were um you know there is some very interesting stuff that

00:27:46.160 goes on there there's there's mostly a huge amount of lethargic bureaucracy and a tremendous

00:27:50.800 amount of waste and if they put me in charge if trump put me in charge of the intelligence

00:27:54.340 community, I would cut it in half

00:27:56.640 as soon as humanly possible. Like, if I was

00:27:58.400 czar, I'm not saying it's even feasible to do

00:28:00.460 that without Congress, but

00:28:02.160 that's the truth. The Secret Service, for

00:28:04.380 a long time, was really

00:28:06.380 a chauffeur and

00:28:08.400 crowd control agency. It's just a fact,

00:28:10.640 okay? And this is a lot of people,

00:28:12.380 and there was a lot of DEI hiring,

00:28:14.500 and there were a lot of sort of, you know,

00:28:16.860 not particularly

00:28:19.640 physically impressive or imposing

00:28:22.060 individuals getting through. I mean, you know,

00:28:24.040 i'm like a middle-aged 44 year old guy i saw the secret service uh physical requirements and i was

00:28:29.300 like i'm not even like training for it these days and i could pass that that's absurd so yes so you

00:28:33.840 know it takes time but it's it's one of these things where um it reminds me there's a haunting

00:28:39.200 quote from an ira leader after they tried to get margaret thatcher and it was you know that ira

00:28:48.220 they put a bomb somewhere. And the quote that he put out was, you know, you have to be lucky

00:28:54.080 always, but we only have to be lucky once. And that's the reality of high security or, you know,

00:29:01.860 high target security of personal security details is, you know, you just have to be on it all the

00:29:07.720 time and you have to have a zero failure mentality. Good for that cop for being quick to react. You

00:29:15.220 You know, I mean, he had his gun drawn and was firing shots at the bad guy within seconds.

00:29:19.820 And I will say it was kind of cool to see the Secret Service agent in, like, the firing stance with the legs, you know, bent, like, immediately.

00:29:27.780 That was kind of cool to see, like, his training kicked in, even though nobody actually hit the perp.

00:29:32.360 But the perp is in custody, so we can't—that guy, look at it.

00:29:34.940 That's kind of cool.

00:29:36.020 He's clearly been through some training there.

00:29:37.560 And, look, the perp is in custody, so good.

00:29:40.180 But we—I don't like what Sean Curran said.

00:29:42.780 Can you could we please take some lessons from this and admit we have some room for improvement?

00:29:48.420 Only an A is acceptable when you're guarding this particular president in particular.

00:29:53.200 I totally agree. Totally agree on that in particular.

00:29:55.180 He's saying he's saying we give ourselves an A and it's like a B, but it's not it's not an F.

00:29:59.880 It's not a B. No, it's exactly right.

00:30:03.360 OK, let's keep going because we have other stuff to get to.

00:30:06.060 The Iran war is in a weird place right now.

00:30:08.760 There's a ceasefire, but the president reportedly has just been advised on some options to, like, rattle the ceasefire out of a ceasefire and to an end to the actual conflict.

00:30:23.040 And he is reportedly considering renewed strikes against certain targets or something greater.

00:30:29.940 So some plans have been brought to him.

00:30:32.000 But meantime, domestically, gas prices now have hit. Oil has rallied to its highest level since the start of the Iran war. And gas prices are now averaging four dollars and 30 cents a gallon, which Trump was asked about in the following soundbite, which we will play. Watch here.

00:30:52.120 sat 11 the average price of a gallon of gas is now four dollars and three cents in this country

00:30:57.240 and you know what and we're not going to have a nuclear weapon in the hands of iran but the gas

00:31:01.840 will go down as soon as the war's over it'll drop like a rock there's so much of it it's all over

00:31:06.740 the place sitting all over the oceans of the world and it'll be it'll go down but what won't 0.68

00:31:14.780 happen is if iran had a nuclear weapon and used it then the whole world is a different place 0.52

00:31:21.320 You're not going to have to pay a little bit more for gasoline.

00:31:25.060 The gasoline, the oil will go down rapidly as soon as the war is over.

00:31:30.700 OK, by the way, I just want to correct myself.

00:31:32.720 That was yesterday.

00:31:33.460 Today, they've already gone up another 10 cents to four dollars and almost 40 cents a barrel.

00:31:39.560 It's four point three nine that the average gallon is costing.

00:31:45.640 So there is President Trump saying that.

00:31:48.400 here's senator rick scott a republican doubling down with caitlin collins top 12 when the people

00:31:55.240 are unhappy about paying a dollar 24 more what do you tell them about how long they're going to be

00:31:59.500 paying more for gas well you know as you and you know caitlin my background i grew up in public

00:32:04.840 housing i watched my parents struggle for food um and they struggled for jobs so i think gas prices

00:32:10.300 i hate them going up um but here's what's fascinating i mean democrats don't care about

00:32:14.940 high gas prices. They tried to cause it to make sure we all buy electric vehicles.

00:32:19.160 Trump's tried to get gas prices down. He did his first term. He's done it this term.

00:32:22.700 But there's a tradeoff right now. I want my family, your family to be safe. And is there

00:32:29.820 a cost right now? It's terrible that we have higher gas prices. But the tradeoff is we're

00:32:36.620 going to live in freedom and democracy. And we don't have somebody that's going to drop a nuclear

00:32:41.500 weapon on her on us. Senator, I don't know what the price tag for that is, but it's worth it to

00:32:46.800 me. OK, I'm sorry. I just I'm taking this before I give it to you. That's fucking bullshit. The

00:32:53.140 intelligence community assessed that Iran was not anywhere near getting a nuclear bomb. That comes

00:32:59.840 from President Trump's intelligence community right before we launched this war. President

00:33:05.200 Trump himself said that we had obliterated the nuclear sites in June, which we believed and

00:33:11.000 reported and congratulated him on. So this is just bullshit. You can say Iran's a bad actor. 0.99

00:33:17.280 Iran has proxies who are doing bad things in the region. Iran has designs on hurting America. 0.92

00:33:22.400 That's all true. But what he just said is a lie. It's bullshit. It's fucking propaganda.

00:33:27.780 And it's not going to sell. People don't believe it. And that is why the president's poll numbers 1.00

00:33:32.600 on approval for this war continue to drop into the basement. And approval of the war is in the

00:33:38.520 basement as well. The latest poll just came out and two thirds of the American public are against

00:33:42.760 it. Two thirds of the American public are against the war. The gas prices buck. I just you tell me

00:33:49.740 whether America is going to swallow. We just need to do it in order to prevent a nuclear weapon from

00:33:56.460 dropping on our heads. So I promised the last time for your esteemed audience that I'll reference my

00:34:02.040 resume. But I said I worked in the Iraq office, Megan, at the CIA. I worked in the office that

00:34:06.260 actually did the wmd assessment for the iraq war um i was not there when that happened but i

00:34:12.440 worked with a lot of folks who were uh and certainly understand how that has colored the

00:34:19.240 thinking not only of people from within the intelligence community but all of us right so

00:34:24.140 getting this stuff right matters a whole hell of a lot and we have gotten it quite wrong in the past

00:34:30.000 and i've seen uh i've i've seen from the inside how that sort of thing can happen via political

00:34:35.060 pressure. So I just I just think that's worthwhile context because I come at this from a very I'm very anti Iran, but I'm also really not 0.70

00:34:45.520 interested in any long drawn out conflict again in the Middle East of any kind. But now we're there. So I try to look at this from the 0.68

00:34:53.860 perspective of, OK, what are the best options? Here is my challenge on this that I don't think enough people have really addressed and

00:35:02.520 certainly not in this administration, or, you know, not for the people who are proponents of

00:35:07.480 the war, this has to be a regime change war. It has to be a regime change war for it to come to

00:35:12.900 a successful conclusion, because we're talking about getting concessions. And we haven't gotten

00:35:19.580 those concessions yet. What we've done is we've set this up so that you have pain on our side

00:35:26.540 economically. And really, I'm sorry, it's economically and politically, I think, is the

00:35:31.260 more powerful lever here at home. And then you have a lot of economic pain as well as the kinetic

00:35:37.900 strikes, the military destruction that had happened in Iran. And it's essentially who's

00:35:43.720 going to cry uncle first. I mean, Trump even used that phrase. He's like, they just have to cry uncle

00:35:47.600 and this all stops. So we have a midterm coming up and we have Americans paying higher prices for

00:35:53.140 gas and people really care, especially people who are struggling about high gas prices. So that's

00:35:58.180 real pressure but why do i say it's a regime for it to come to a successful conclusion in the long

00:36:04.060 term it has to be a regime change war because any agreement that you get with whatever this is now

00:36:11.900 i know we've talked to the foreign minister and i actually called on radio megan uh last week i was

00:36:16.500 like they're not going to go back to pakistan for the because they're not going to say they're not

00:36:19.960 going to agree they should do this over zoom they should send them an email there's no this is a

00:36:24.320 total waste of time and we did and we can't and we did yeah so i i you know my everybody listening

00:36:28.720 was like oh wow you saw that coming i was yeah of course this because this is fundamentally about

00:36:33.000 the nature of the iranian state and what it will be like going forward and iran that is still

00:36:38.160 hostile toward israel toward america is going to want to replenish its coffers get buy back you

00:36:46.360 know build up military stuff again we say oh it'll take years and years maybe i mean they've got a

00:36:50.800 lot of oil they can build some stuff pretty quickly and they also fight a lot uh asymmetrically i mean

00:36:56.120 the terrorist stuff that they do and a lot of the support whether it's to hezbollah hamas the houthis

00:37:00.620 they do that uh through mostly asymmetric means and low-cost munitions if you will things that 0.79

00:37:05.800 aren't particularly sophisticated my point is they're going to try to get uh they're going to

00:37:10.240 be back in the same position before with a regime that we're going to say is cheating and that is

00:37:15.460 trying to get further along the nuclear progress timeline. And so we have to get rid of them,

00:37:22.260 which is why at the beginning of this, everybody was saying, any day now, any day now, we're going

00:37:27.260 to see the resistance come up. And I was like, well, that's nonsense. When I saw the stuff in

00:37:32.600 the papers about the Kurds maybe helping, I worked in Iraq with the Kurds back in the day in the Iraq

00:37:38.920 war. And I just looked at that. I said, has anyone, gosh, they actually need some people

00:37:43.500 from the bush administration as crazy as that sounds kurds aren't gonna run they're not gonna 0.55

00:37:48.240 run roughshod over the iranian military and take over arabia and take over iran is crazy

00:37:52.560 and that was being floated for a second so the regime change aspect of this i think is essentially

00:37:56.720 non-existent and so we may where i think we're heading and i'm sorry you know this we could do

00:38:01.820 a three-hour podcast making just on this one topic right where i think we're heading is uh the the

00:38:07.860 iranians will agree to just enough that we can say the iranians that we fundamentally won we've

00:38:15.600 destroyed their military they're in a terrible position and then uh we'll hope that the political

00:38:21.240 damage going into the midterms isn't so profound that trump is essentially uh um you know stymied

00:38:29.720 for the last two years of his second term hobbled hobbled yeah that's that's how i think this goes

00:38:34.840 And like I said, I am super opposed to the Iranian regime. I would love it to see people in the streets and women in high heels and miniskirts, no more hijab forced on them by the besiege and partying. That would be amazing. I'm all about that. And I think Iran is a huge problem. And I think Iran is a state sponsor of terror and all these things. 0.96

00:38:52.040 But if we're being honest about what we're going to accomplish, what agreement, I mean, just ask it this way, what agreement is Jared Kushner going to get on behalf of the Trump administration with Iran that's truly enforceable if these lunatics that are around the country are still in charge?

00:39:09.200 Like, I don't think anyone's even thought about this.

00:39:10.860 the truth is that they're talking about a deal that looks very much like the jcpoa the obama

00:39:19.460 deal that president trump said he hated and was so proud to eviscerate we're talking about a deal

00:39:26.340 right now that looks a lot like that and the reports are that president trump is trying to

00:39:32.040 make sure it doesn't look so much like that that people can use that against him but it like that's

00:39:37.700 just a nightmare. And here we are where the Iranians are still, you know, now they've realized 1.00

00:39:42.240 that they have this pressure point that they can unleash on us, which is control over the Strait 0.99

00:39:45.580 of Hormuz, which, yes, that hurts the global economy. We're hurting the Iranian economy by 1.00

00:39:50.740 not letting shipping traffic go in and out of these Iranian ports, which was a good counter move 0.69

00:39:54.780 because we needed a pressure point on them. And it is hurting them. But they're still hurting us.

00:39:59.280 They're hurting the world economy by not allowing shipping to the Strait of Hormuz.

00:40:02.520 And all of that is already manifesting in our gas prices and is only going to continue to.

00:40:08.640 I don't think President Trump is right, based on all the economists I've listened to, that as soon as the war is over, it instantly goes down.

00:40:16.060 That's not true.

00:40:17.260 The rolling inflation that's coming our way as a result of what's been happening in the strait is coming, like a tidal wave, no matter whether the war ends tomorrow or not.

00:40:28.420 The only question is how long is it going to go on and how big is it going to be?

00:40:32.520 And we can control some of that by ending it sooner rather than later. 0.93

00:40:35.740 So I would just say for anybody who wants to understand the context here, I think in some ways there's been a lack of, in the public conversation about this in the administration, a lack of understanding of how much pain the malacracy of Iran is willing to take. 0.88

00:40:54.800 This will sound like a digression, Megan, but I think just give me, if it may please the court, give me a second.

00:41:00.000 I promise, Your Honor, this will be relevant.

00:41:02.520 um the longest i'll allow it thank you thank you the longest declared war of the 20th century

00:41:07.480 that i know i think it's the longest declared war of the 20th century was the iran iraq war

00:41:11.460 of the of the 80s went on for about a decade and you know about a million people die i mean it was

00:41:16.660 a horrible a little bit like a russia ukraine border thing i mean just a lot of death and and

00:41:20.980 the iranians set up a special brigade this was their this was their government they set up a

00:41:27.560 especially with great, to clear landmines by having people run across minefields.

00:41:33.560 This is who is in charge in this country.

00:41:36.400 They had their own people clear.

00:41:39.420 Could you imagine an American general telling soldiers, you're the best, you're the brightest, you're fighting for us, you're amazing.

00:41:45.420 There's a bunch of landmines there and tanks are more expensive than you.

00:41:48.480 Just walk across that field for Allah. 0.97

00:41:51.320 That happened. 1.00

00:41:52.820 That's who we are dealing with.

00:41:54.500 the notion that cutting their, you know, that making their economy, and by the way, they're

00:41:59.100 going to, they're playing all kinds of games. They're now trying to truck some of the oil out.

00:42:02.900 I mean, they're, they're going to, the notion that on a short timeline, I think, I think Trump

00:42:07.400 is right in so much as we have the cards, if we can just keep playing this thing out, but at what

00:42:14.340 cost to us over the next two months, six months, you know, whatever the timeline ends up being,

00:42:20.020 and the Iranians can take the regime, the people in power, 0.86

00:42:25.040 they can take a tremendous amount.

00:42:26.460 They don't care about the suffering of the Iranian people.

00:42:28.740 So I just, I don't think that this,

00:42:30.940 it's a little bit like the sanctions tool.

00:42:33.440 We, everyone used to love sanctions

00:42:35.020 because you're not, you know,

00:42:36.120 we've blown people up here, obviously,

00:42:37.640 but a lot of airstrikes,

00:42:39.300 but people love sanctions because they think,

00:42:41.320 okay, we'll just cripple them.

00:42:42.960 How well did sanctions work against Russia? 0.74

00:42:45.460 You remember when everybody said

00:42:46.560 we were going to destroy the Russian economy

00:42:48.420 at the beginning of the Russia-Ukraine

00:42:49.920 were, Megan. That was the consensus. Oh, remember Biden was like, just watch. Just watch. You just

00:42:55.500 wait. This stuff is hard. And that's why I brought up my experience working in the Iraq office

00:42:59.960 before, because we were actually losing a counterinsurgency campaign. And at one point,

00:43:04.800 people were talking about maybe we just have to pull out and let the whole thing just turn into

00:43:07.640 the ninth circle of hell or the eighth circle of hell, whatever. And it was some circle. Yeah.

00:43:12.740 Tenth circle. You name the circle. Point is, this stuff is we think of this along the lines of,

00:43:18.680 of course the Iranians are going to want to make a deal

00:43:23.160 because Trump is going to,

00:43:24.460 their economy is going to be absolutely destroyed.

00:43:26.480 Look at Venezuela. 0.99

00:43:27.880 The Venezuelan people were willing to put up with,

00:43:32.320 I mean, willing to, but not really the right term.

00:43:34.560 But Venezuela, they had the Maduro diet

00:43:36.660 where people were losing like pounds,

00:43:39.200 like 20 pounds over the course of a year or something

00:43:41.520 because of all the food shortages.

00:43:43.740 And their regime, they stayed in power.

00:43:46.160 And they the amount of suffering that authoritarians will subject their own people to is is something that I think the American mind has a hard time comprehending strategically.

00:43:56.800 So I don't I just don't see them crying uncle.

00:44:00.320 What I see them doing is giving us just enough of an off ramp where we go, OK, we've had a breakthrough.

00:44:06.820 Now we're going to head into the real negotiations.

00:44:09.240 We're going to you know, and the Iranians love this.

00:44:12.320 They love this.

00:44:12.880 Well, the only piece of good news that I have heard out of Iran recently is from the New York Times on their Monday podcast of The Daily, where they had a reporter who covers Iran, and she reported that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is basically their mercenary and that they essentially might be viable.

00:44:39.840 And there is a possibility that since they're really the ones running Iran right now, that they could be wooed by a President Trump type economic offering that would, you know, make America or make Iran great again into some sort of a deal.

00:44:53.700 Now, we'll see whether that's true. Well, I mean, like, I'm just putting a pin in that, Buck. I don't need your commenting on it. I just I'm putting it out there as a possibility. Let's hope this is a true report. And that and we can't. I want to keep going.

00:45:05.700 Okay, okay. I was going to say, but that would be a home run. I would love that.

00:45:10.000 And it would be a huge home run if they would actually deal with us and like be in a position

00:45:13.760 where our money would make them more reasonable and not just toward us, but toward their own

00:45:19.060 people. So fingers crossed that that's a possibility. But I want to switch in the time

00:45:23.340 I have you to the politics of it because Mark Halperin, who obviously is very, very bright

00:45:28.040 politically and otherwise, he has been saying all along and I've been sort of holding onto it

00:45:32.800 that obviously the House looks very much in danger and we all kind of think it's going to go blue,

00:45:37.180 but the Senate should not be going blue. The Senate is a good map this year for the Republicans,

00:45:42.320 and we should be able to hold on to that on Team Red.

00:45:48.160 Here, Mark Halberd's tune has changed, and he doesn't easily change. But here's what he said

00:45:54.040 on his show the other day. But I'm telling you, we've got some data points today. The Republican

00:45:58.260 Party may be in a lot of trouble. The midterms could be, again, ladies and gentlemen, I'm saying

00:46:02.060 It could be. And there are people in the Republican Party, including Newt Gingrich, who would tell you that this is true.

00:46:07.480 And they don't want it to happen. It could be a bloodbath. It could be a blue bloodbath in November.

00:46:13.660 Plenty of time for things to change. Republicans have some ideas about how to change it. 0.94

00:46:17.700 But I'm going to tell you some things now that suggest that this could be a nightmare.

00:46:21.780 They could lose control of the Senate. You've never heard me say that. I've said just the opposite.

00:46:25.500 They could lose more than 30 House seats. They could lose governor's races. No one's expecting them to lose.

00:46:32.060 Oh, it's a nightmare, Buck. It's a nightmare because the map gets worse for Republicans in 28, where they have more Senate seats up for grabs and to defend.

00:46:43.000 And, you know, then like now, you don't have a President Trump at the top of the ticket to help him out.

00:46:47.660 I just hope that you will be zooming from your cell to my cell under the Kamala administration and we can continue to do the show when when the backlash.

00:46:57.220 trash but i think a lot of republicans and a lot of trump people uh and i am a trump person you

00:47:02.680 know three times voted for him all that stuff uh a lot of them i think i told them in the first

00:47:07.320 year i said enjoy this guys this is as good as it's going to get the you know exult in the

00:47:12.100 restoration of sanity in the shattering of of delusions that this administration will accomplish 0.97

00:47:18.320 because i'm telling you these democrats are insane and there's a lot of them and they will 0.91

00:47:23.400 be back in power at some point and they are going to be out for out for blood, unfortunately, 0.98

00:47:28.760 in a whole range of ways. So that's a concern. Here's here's my sense of that is like just just

00:47:35.180 like that is the main concern. That's the main concern. I don't care about Iran. I care about

00:47:43.360 America. I want the Republicans to stay in power. I'm not too big on either party, to be perfectly

00:47:48.720 honest, which is why I've been a registered independent for 20 years. But as between the

00:47:52.960 two, it's a no brainer. And these lunatics are openly talking about adding seats to the U.S. 0.93

00:48:00.340 Supreme Court, making Puerto Rico and D.C. additional states, getting rid of the filibuster 0.67

00:48:07.160 in the Senate so that they can pass through all of their aggressive agendas. And by the way,

00:48:11.440 no filibuster in the Senate is a lot more dangerous when you have a Democrat power center

00:48:16.060 in Washington than Republicans, because Republicans aren't big on pushing legislation.

00:48:19.820 But Democrats are like this. This is the fight. And anything that undermines our fight in this

00:48:27.020 respect, I'm against. And this war is hobbling the Trump administration and its electoral

00:48:33.360 chances. And those are Republicans six months in advance of a hugely important vote.

00:48:39.620 So this is the next thing I was going to say. And you and I are obviously seeing seeing this

00:48:44.980 from a similar lens here is the focus has to return home for this election. Whatever one

00:48:52.560 thinks of Iran, and I'm actually not somebody who is losing sleep at night about, again, I'm very 0.99

00:48:57.480 anti-Iranian. I was very happy when Soleimani got, you know, dusted by President Trump. I mean,

00:49:03.000 I'm there. So I kind of come at this from, I think it's a complicated issue.

00:49:07.620 I'm not pro-Iran, Buck. I get it. Trust me. I was on Fox News for 20 years. I'm not pro-Iran at all.

00:49:14.280 fuck it, Ron. But I don't care about them. I don't want to bomb them. I believe Tulsi 1.00

00:49:18.680 Gabbard's intelligence assessment. I believe what President Trump said in June after we bombed the

00:49:22.780 facilities. And I believe he needs to be focused on America, the United States of America. And gas

00:49:28.020 prices do matter. They may not matter if your last name is Trump, but they matter to middle

00:49:32.840 America who are obsessively, if you look at these social media boards, checking the gas prices and

00:49:37.500 trying to find the cheapest gas in their neighborhood. That's how most Americans live.

00:49:41.480 Well, it's important for everyone to know that 50 percent of gas goes into products and the prices that you're paying for gas are reflected also in the prices for the goods and services that you are buying on a tight budget day to day.

00:49:54.960 So that's it's really about the cost of everything, because when gas is high, it affects so many things.

00:50:00.660 Transport, you know, of the things that you buy.

00:50:03.020 Anyway, yes, Trump needs to bring this home in every way.

00:50:07.260 It needs to be about the border.

00:50:09.020 It needs to be about the economy.

00:50:10.500 this has this focus must shift now i think they would say this white house would say

00:50:14.740 starting in you know june when we have our agreement it's all going to be great

00:50:18.660 maybe but it's taken a little longer than they initially told us and look i just want trump to

00:50:24.480 have the best possibility to have his agenda implemented for the second half of his second

00:50:30.200 term and these this foreign stuff is uh particularly in iran venezuela is actually

00:50:35.380 looking kind of good that's a conversation for another time but the foreign stuff in iran right

00:50:38.560 now is, it's a distraction to a lot of people who just want their life here in America to be 0.86

00:50:43.040 better. And I think that's totally fair. That's not, that's not being closed minded. And it's

00:50:47.260 not about anything other than the day to day of what matters to people. And Megan, can I also

00:50:53.700 just randomly say thank you for making this a bestseller manufacturing delusion. I launched

00:50:58.000 the book on your show. Pleasure. Thank you so much was mine. I really enjoyed the book. I think

00:51:02.520 everybody will. Even Doug told me it was good. And he's a book. He's a book nerd like me. He's

00:51:07.580 like this was actually really good. We both read it and we both enjoyed it. Yes, check it out,

00:51:12.700 Manufacturing Delusion. And it's got all of the great Buck insights on everything. You've done

00:51:17.040 so much Buck and it's always great talking to you. All right. Thank you for being here to be

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00:53:31.800 We have to bring you an update to the J.P. Morgan sex slave lawsuit we told you about yesterday.

00:53:37.980 The New York Post reporting that the John Doe plaintiff who claimed that his boss at J.P. Morgan 0.96

00:53:45.160 was sexually harassing him and forcing him to allow her to give him oral sex while he cried 0.87

00:53:55.220 over it, has now been identified. And multiple sources are now speaking out, telling the Post 0.96

00:54:01.360 that the accusations this guy is making against this woman are a, quote, complete fabrication. 0.99

00:54:09.340 But where does this poor gal go to get her reputation back? Joining me now to react to this 1.00

00:54:13.540 and more is Isabel Brown. She's host of The Isabel Brown Show on The Daily Wire. And for her first

00:54:19.240 appearance here on The MK Show, Priya Patel, conservative influencer and political commentator.

00:54:25.400 Priya actually recently went quite viral with this short clip that has already racked up more than

00:54:30.920 30 million views. Look at this. This is your friendly reminder that immigration without

00:54:36.560 assimilation is invasion. Got it. Yes, well said. Isabel, Priya, welcome to the show. 1.00

00:54:43.320 Thanks for having us, Megan.

00:54:44.620 Yeah, thanks so much.

00:54:46.300 I love it, Priya.

00:54:47.060 You said it simply, you said it plainly, and it resonated as it should.

00:54:51.080 Thank you.

00:54:51.800 Okay, let's start with this lunatic who filed this lawsuit against the J.P. Morgan banker.

00:54:58.680 So it turns out that this guy, he's now been outed his identity by the New York Post,

00:55:05.240 And it turns out that he is not actually, as he claimed in his lawsuit yesterday, a subordinate to the woman he is accusing of having harassed him, that they were more on parallel tracks and that they ultimately reported up to different managing directors. 0.80

00:55:24.480 So contrary to the allegations in his lawsuit, this woman, he claims, was holding his promotion over his head unless he gave her oral sex and let her do oral sex on him, that this woman wasn't even in charge of his bonus or his future at J.P. Morgan.

00:55:40.980 And while he tried to file this under a John Doe pseudonym, he quickly got outed by people at JP Morgan. His identity was known. He's left the firm. He's with another firm. It turns out he's been with multiple banks over the past 10, 12 years. Doesn't seem like he can keep a job at any one of them for any too long a time. 0.95

00:56:01.980 That's my own opinion based on what I'm seeing. I could be wrong. And on top of all that, it comes out that he yes, that there was a full investigation at J.P. Morgan, which we reported yesterday, and that they found absolutely no merit to this and that he wouldn't cooperate with it.

00:56:19.720 And on top of all that, he's withdrawn the complaint temporarily, his lawyer says, to, quote, make corrections to it.

00:56:30.420 But we're also told at the same time it's because he needed to jump through certain hoops in order to file as a John Doe and to keep it anonymous.

00:56:39.060 And he's it's really just to do that, but that the complaint is going to be refiled.

00:56:43.140 he's standing by his allegations and this young woman who her all of her friends jp morgan says

00:56:49.400 she's totally above board she's like a consummate professional is now twisting in the wind denying

00:56:54.540 everything denying it all but twisting in the wind as her face has been everywhere as like some bizarre

00:57:00.240 pariah who couldn't keep her hands off of this guy isabel what do you make of it there are so

00:57:07.100 many elements to this story megan i feel like i'm binge watching an entire hbo drama series on all

00:57:12.940 of this. And frankly, if indeed it is true that this was all fabricated, as I'm sure we'll find

00:57:18.060 out in the next few months, this guy shouldn't be a banker. He should be a fiction writer or

00:57:22.800 working in Hollywood because the level of detail and creativity in all of these specific allegations,

00:57:29.060 my jaw was on the floor watching you read them on your show yesterday. I feel terrible for his wife.

00:57:35.020 I certainly feel terrible for this woman. If indeed all these accusations are false,

00:57:39.060 that now that is what everyone is going to associate with her forever. And in the era of

00:57:43.100 Me Too, we often think about this with potentially false allegations coming against men and tarnishing

00:57:48.080 and destroying the reputations of men. It just as easily can come the other way around as well,

00:57:53.020 which is why damaging culture here in the era of Me Too is so, so dangerous for people's honor,

00:58:00.020 for their credibility, for their reputation. And it really cheapens what happens in actual

00:58:03.900 circumstances of sexual harassment and assault. You know, I said yesterday, Priya, that I did

00:58:10.540 not believe one word of this complaint. There is the notion that somehow she forced him to allow

00:58:22.220 her to perform oral sex on him, and he alleges that, but he cried the whole time. That's just, 0.98

00:58:29.420 That's not a thing. I'm sorry, but that is not a thing where a woman forces a man to allow her to 1.00

00:58:35.020 give him a blow job. And he just this swinging guy at J.P. Morgan just tearfully makes his way 0.95

00:58:41.740 through it. I don't believe it. Maybe he'll prove me wrong in court, but I don't believe one word

00:58:46.340 of it. And yet he puts it in the complaint. It goes everywhere. It was everywhere yesterday.

00:58:51.860 The memes online were hilarious of like showing mobs running to of men to apply to J.P. Morgan.

00:58:59.420 I know. I saw one person. The horses left the bar. I know. Exactly. I saw so many guys saying

00:59:04.740 like, this guy's crying while he has my dream job. Okay. Like we'll, we'll trade that. I'm

00:59:09.300 perfectly fine with that. Yeah. No, none of this has happened. I'm not convinced whatsoever. I was

00:59:14.560 cracking up watching you read it yesterday on your show as well, Megan. I know Isabel said that too,

00:59:19.400 but you know, it's just so unbelievably funny and it honestly sounds like every man's fantasy.

00:59:25.560 So I think that's why it's so unbelievable to most of us, because no woman in the history of the world has ever referred to her breasts as cannons, I think is what she referred to it as.

00:59:38.740 I've never heard that in my life. I would never dream of saying anything like that.

00:59:43.040 I don't think anybody was genuinely convinced of this, especially the second that we saw his picture released.

00:59:47.920 I mean, if you are a victim of this alleged, you know, sex slave scandal, then why exactly would you be so quick to hide?

00:59:57.500 This is exactly like Isabel said, a problem with the Me Too movement is that it essentially erodes the basic premise that we have in this country.

01:00:04.780 And that is innocent until proven guilty. And you automatically jump to being guilty if you're accused of any sexual assault, which, of course, like Isabel said, again, very much waters down the actual validity of sexual assault cases.

01:00:17.560 And unfortunately, we see this time and time again, especially with men in this country.

01:00:21.740 But now, of course, it can be just as damaging to women, too.

01:00:26.240 Yes.

01:00:26.800 So and it turns out there's only a two year age difference between them.

01:00:29.560 The way he styled it in the complaint was like he was this junior hire.

01:00:33.280 She was the senior, you know, badass, like powerful person at J.P.

01:00:36.920 Morgan.

01:00:37.280 There were two years between them.

01:00:39.280 They basically had parallel positions.

01:00:41.220 They reported to different people.

01:00:43.560 And she's apparently extremely well respected.

01:00:46.640 Her lawyer issued the following statement to the Post. Lorna categorically denies the allegation. She never engaged in any inappropriate conduct with this individual of any kind and has never even been to the location where the alleged sexual assault supposedly took place.

01:01:01.880 Now, I actually do find that denial kind of interesting because if this were me and I had never laid a finger on this guy and like there was absolutely nothing between us, I think the denial would read there was never a sexual act between us of any kind.

01:01:19.260 These are all lies.

01:01:21.280 He will be getting sued.

01:01:22.600 You know, like it's interesting to me that they go to she's never been in the location where the alleged sexual assault supposedly took place.

01:01:30.640 That's that's not what my denial would sound like. It would be like, I've never touched this person and he's never touched me. So this goes back to my own theory on this case, which I espoused yesterday, which is they may have had an interlude, maybe one. I don't know. I don't think she's married, but he's married.

01:01:47.840 and there could have been an interlude

01:01:50.460 that maybe went bad or that he held against her.

01:01:53.860 You know, it can work both ways that way.

01:01:55.700 And maybe that's why her denial sounds like that.

01:01:58.780 I could be wrong on that.

01:01:59.620 Maybe nothing happened between them.

01:02:00.720 They say he's somewhat socially awkward

01:02:02.680 and her allies are saying that she's actually amazing

01:02:06.840 and, you know, they don't believe

01:02:08.460 there's any merit to this.

01:02:09.480 Again, somebody is saying this is a complete fabrication,

01:02:12.900 somebody who knows her.

01:02:14.440 So in any event, we'll find out.

01:02:15.940 But here's one other thing.

01:02:17.840 He filed this under John Doe. Why are we still doing this? Why are we still doing this, Isabel? Why are we allowing women to file under Jane Doe? And why are we allowing men to file under John Doe? Like, I'm sorry, I don't think there should be a special exception for outing your identity just because you claim to be a sexual assault victim and you might actually be a sexual assault.

01:02:39.760 We don't do that for any other crime. The accuser has the right to know who is accusing him, and so does the public in assessing one's credibility. I'm sorry that it's more trauma for the person if it really happened to them, but I don't believe in this John and Jane Doe bullshit.

01:02:55.020 Yeah, it's a harsh truth, Megan. And I think people have a hard time swallowing that because we certainly want to be sensitive to the reality that people have suffered trauma in situations of rape or sexual assault or harassment, especially in the workplace.

01:03:06.520 It's awkward. It's uncomfortable. But if there was indeed an internal investigation and it didn't go in your favor and you find the need to file a formal lawsuit about all of this, clearly this is telling me this is wildly important to the trajectory of your life.

01:03:19.220 And you should be 100 percent comfortable putting your name behind this because you are indeed accusing someone of something that's going to destroy their reputation and potentially their career for the rest of their life.

01:03:31.240 If it turns out not to be true, this idea that you can hide behind a facade of an alias or just being completely anonymous does not happen for any other crime, violent or otherwise in the United States today.

01:03:43.060 And it's weird to me that it continues to happen in this particular realm.

01:03:47.620 Mm hmm. All right. I want to switch gears for a second. There was a big, big ruling out of the

01:03:52.080 U.S. Supreme Court this week on voting rights, the Voting Rights Act. This, you know, back in the

01:03:57.220 1940s and 50s, the terrible things were done mostly by Democrats to black voters to stop them from 0.82

01:04:03.940 voting and give them ridiculous tests to see if they could actually, you know, go into the ballot

01:04:10.040 box and be trusted to cast a vote. And we needed a Voting Rights Act to protect their rights. And

01:04:14.640 we implemented it and actually really turned things around. And it worked. It helped so much

01:04:19.080 that it got rid of this problem and it got rid of this problem long ago. But Democrats never to

01:04:24.780 give up an electoral tool that might help them. We're still using it to do things like gerrymander

01:04:31.120 districts into being majority black districts so that they could work them to their electoral 0.70

01:04:36.700 advantage and claiming that that's that had to be or black voters would be disempowered in places

01:04:41.460 like Louisiana. Well, this week, the Supreme Court finally said, and they've been toying with

01:04:45.300 getting rid of this and they've been toying with dismantling the Voting Rights Act because it's

01:04:48.940 time. I mean, it's been it's been 60 plus years now. And this this week, they finally got rid of

01:04:56.040 sort of the last piece of the Voting Rights Act without without officially overturning the act.

01:04:59.720 They were like, you don't need these racial gerrymanders and they're not constitutional.

01:05:03.220 Well, you would think that with this single ruling, they have pushed us back to 1944 based on the way the left is reacting.

01:05:13.260 All right. Here is Sonny Hostin of The View, who is a multimillionaire.

01:05:21.580 Her son just graduated from Harvard, who is a black man.

01:05:27.440 But listen to the way she talks about this ruling on The View, Sot 17.

01:05:31.780 alito argued that the vast social change has occurred throughout the country and particularly

01:05:37.760 in the south indicating that racism no longer exists in this country i can tell you as a black

01:05:44.940 woman that my father was born in 1949 he remembers segregated schools he remembers segregated water

01:05:52.420 fountains he remembers that he couldn't that he did not have full civil rights and he told me

01:05:57.180 when i turned 40 years old that i was the first person in his family to enjoy full civil rights

01:06:03.960 and he is still alive today and i am still alive today and i have been discriminated against and

01:06:09.220 now i have to tell my children that they have less civil rights than i did when i was born

01:06:15.120 that is disgusting despicable and i am devastated by this particular supreme court decision even

01:06:22.960 Even though, Whoopi, we did know this was coming.

01:06:25.020 What about Clarence Thomas?

01:06:27.600 Didn't he stick up for his own people?

01:06:28.880 No, he did not.

01:06:31.140 He was part of the majority here.

01:06:34.060 Oh, did he stick up for his own people?

01:06:36.160 Right.

01:06:36.500 I know Isabel's jaw is literally dropped. 1.00

01:06:38.220 It's incredible, Priya, to watch this incredibly privileged group of rich bitches act like they've had dogs sicked on them at the ballot box. 1.00

01:06:50.640 These are what we call lies. 1.00

01:06:52.520 Your thoughts on Sonny Hauston. Yeah, that's exactly right. And funnily enough, to Sonny's

01:06:56.780 point, I actually remember in the 80s and 90s when Joe Biden was in Congress actually advocating for

01:07:02.100 segregation in schools, and yet now he's allegedly one of the champions or he's the representative

01:07:06.860 for the party of champions for equality and anti-racism. So funny how this works always.

01:07:13.940 I mean, it's really ridiculous to defend that aspect of the Voting Rights Act because essentially

01:07:18.820 by empowering or drawing districts for races specifically. You inherently disenfranchise

01:07:25.220 other races in these districts. It just seems very plain and simple to understand. And I don't 0.90

01:07:30.780 understand why this is now like the second coming of segregation or slavery to the left. It's really

01:07:37.640 ridiculous to me. So just when you think they couldn't take it any further, they explicitly 0.88

01:07:42.840 say what I just said. Listen to this follow up by that sage, Whoopi Goldberg, who we all do turn to

01:07:49.280 for constitutional analysis. She's even worse than Sonny, sod 18. Right now, it sounds like 0.99

01:07:56.000 it's just affecting people of color. We know better. We knew this was coming. So this is meant 1.00

01:08:01.960 to discourage you from voting. This is meant to make you feel like you don't have a voice.

01:08:09.400 you do have a voice do not forget that here's the other problem you know we make laws to fix

01:08:17.160 problems we put the voting rights act together because there was an issue because they were

01:08:24.120 keeping people from voting right they were literally shooting people they were running

01:08:33.460 them down with dogs to keep them from voting okay let's start with that so when they say

01:08:41.660 that problem is gone it's not gone because you're still doing it you're still doing it

01:08:47.560 that's i'm we are so derelict in missing that my god did that happen and none of us reported on it

01:08:58.880 Isabel, what happened to us?

01:09:00.260 Megan, I have never once heard anywhere of anyone shooting black people to prevent them

01:09:05.920 from voting in an American election. 0.99

01:09:07.900 That is asinine to remotely suggest that. 0.95

01:09:10.680 But it's still happening. 0.95

01:09:12.080 What are you saying?

01:09:12.580 Apparently.

01:09:12.900 It's been happening and it's still happening.

01:09:14.920 I think the real takeaway here is that for these people, everything is about race.

01:09:18.800 Ultimately, it was just three, four weeks ago that Whoopi Goldberg called me a racist

01:09:21.960 on The View because I dared to suggest that young women have more children than they think

01:09:26.540 they're ready for and that they think they can afford. 1.00

01:09:28.420 And that's what they used to tell black people to trap people in poverty. 0.98

01:09:32.240 It's just insane. 0.96

01:09:33.140 But listen to how they talk about Clarence Thomas in that segment.

01:09:36.360 They are racist against Clarence Thomas because he does not believe that he is a Democrat because he can think freely for himself.

01:09:42.980 And this is the same political party that ultimately started and funded the KKK, including as recently as five minutes ago through the Southern Poverty Law Center.

01:09:51.940 because it turns out there is so little white supremacy in America that the SPLC and anti-hate

01:09:58.260 groups actually have to pay off the KKK and orchestrate these things like the Charlottesville,

01:10:03.560 Virginia, Unite the Right rally a few years ago, allegedly, as we will find out through all of

01:10:08.640 these lawsuits. But they believe that black people lack the ability to think for themselves. 0.97

01:10:13.700 It is that plain and simple. They think they are too stupid. How about Joy explicitly saying, 1.00

01:10:19.140 how about Clarence Thomas? Did he stand up for his people, for his race, which is on the heels 0.99

01:10:24.680 of a soundbite we played, it was just yesterday, Jasmine Crockett being like, I'm a black woman

01:10:31.040 first before she's a congresswoman. Now you tell me what would happen, Priya, if I was like,

01:10:37.080 I'm a lawyer. Let's say I made it to the Supreme Court. First things first, I stand up for my race.

01:10:43.420 My first principle is I stand up for the whites. I just want to make that clear. I'm here for the 0.96

01:10:48.180 whites first you would be a racist everybody else is secondary to me that's exactly right yeah or

01:10:52.060 or what jasmine crockett said i as a congresswoman at first i'm a white woman i am a white before i'm 0.99

01:10:58.460 anything they say this shit like it's a normal thing to say like clarence thomas should be up 0.97

01:11:04.700 there to stand up for blacks as opposed to for the law for the constitution that's exactly right 0.99

01:11:10.860 i mean if anything it should be we live in america you are american first not not any sort of race

01:11:16.700 And yeah, to your point, Megan, it's really funny that every other race in the world can actually stand up there and say, you know, I am a black woman first, I am a brown man first, whatever it might be.

01:11:28.960 The one race that is excluded from being able to do that are whites.

01:11:33.320 And for whatever reason, whites are always painted like they're the bad people. 0.91

01:11:37.740 When in reality, if you look across the world and all the good deeds that have ever been done, the large majority of them have been committed by whites. 0.86

01:11:45.260 whites were the ones to abolish slavery. I mean, a lot of them actually sacrificed their lives 0.87

01:11:49.020 to abolish slavery in this country. And white nations led the abolition of slavery globally.

01:11:55.660 So I find it really ridiculous that anybody can sit up here and just paint white people as the bad 0.79

01:12:01.340 people when every other race looks virtuous. It's just ridiculous to me. How about we are just 0.99

01:12:06.960 American and we're people first? What they're doing is so dangerous because like if you make

01:12:12.660 race the stakes of any conversation like it's okay to stand up for your people because you're black

01:12:18.620 then that's that that's we're living through the backlash to that right now where especially young

01:12:23.960 white men in some pockets have been told this over and over and over that it's okay to divide us by

01:12:28.440 race and to lean into race essentialism that they're like okay fine then we'll do that and 0.51

01:12:35.200 they're much more focused on their whiteness and their race than they have been in decades like

01:12:39.800 that kind of talk is genuinely dangerous. It's such bullshit that they're allowed to get away 1.00

01:12:43.560 with it. I want to keep going. Kamala Harris would never miss the chance to weigh in. 1.00

01:12:48.360 She's, uh, you know, she, the two things she genuinely feels strongly about are race and 0.96

01:12:53.060 abortion. Those are the two things she holds near and dear to her heart. Very bizarre things to latch

01:12:59.140 onto as your big issues, but okay, that's what she really wants the babies to be able to be 1.00

01:13:02.920 killed in utero. And she thinks that skin color is everything. So here she is seeing an opportunity 1.00

01:13:08.720 to raise her currency and talk about the voting rights issue as a result of the Supreme Court

01:13:14.000 decision. And there's a couple of things we want to talk about here. Look at SOT 16.

01:13:17.880 OK, first of all, here's what she had to say. People would ask me, well, do you think they're

01:13:22.640 going to try and cancel the elections? I don't think so, because if you thought no kings rallies

01:13:27.980 were a thing, people would take to the streets if they tried to cancel elections. No, they have had

01:13:34.780 an agenda that has been in place for decades to get to this very moment and beyond, which

01:13:42.740 is to make it so difficult for the people to vote that they won't, because they know 0.99

01:13:49.200 the people are not stupid, and see the corrupt, incompetent, callous administration that is 1.00

01:13:57.560 in the White House right now. And they're so damn scared. They're so damn scared of losing 1.00

01:14:09.000 the midterms. Okay. I just want to show you the reaction by the black saxophonist who is on the

01:14:18.400 stage with her as part of the band. Was he rallied by her points about the black vote and what's

01:14:25.500 going to happen and they're her her prediction of doom and gloom he is asleep

01:14:30.420 showing him now for the listening audience he is completely asleep his eyes are closed 0.53

01:14:40.760 like the rest of us he finds her an utter bore and so the irony is about as she tries to get people 0.92

01:14:49.500 upset and agitated. Only the white guy in the band is sitting there listening,

01:14:55.060 full ears. And the black guy's like, when's my next sandwich? 0.82

01:15:01.560 I don't think people understand. He speaks for us all.

01:15:04.220 Truly. I don't think people understand in the Democrat elite that the majority of the country

01:15:08.580 did indeed vote for Donald Trump. We've known this for well over a year now. This is not new

01:15:14.100 information, but they actually think that this is such a crazy fascist dictatorship overhaul of

01:15:20.020 society that 99% of people are disenfranchised by the Trump administration when well over half

01:15:25.980 the country actually voted for them. And honestly, I'm just so sick and tired, Megan,

01:15:29.460 of hearing all of these Democrats talk about how the Republicans are making it so hard

01:15:33.560 for people to vote. I currently live in Northern Virginia, and we certainly have been under a

01:15:38.380 microscope for the last several weeks with Virginia's attempt to gerrymander the entire

01:15:42.040 state that's still in flux, but essentially disenfranchising 50% of the state. But they've

01:15:47.680 already said it should be illegal for a ballot that could be counted by a machine to be counted

01:15:53.440 by hand. What could possibly go wrong in Virginia? Voter ID has been here. This is a nationwide

01:16:00.840 attempt to disenfranchise real people by attempting to gerrymander every district, 1.00

01:16:05.800 by letting machines control all of our elections and letting illegal immigrants come in by the 0.95

01:16:10.300 tens of millions into our country to vote instead of American citizens. You do not respect democracy, 1.00

01:16:16.080 actually. I love I love how she's like, you know, they think we're dumb. It's like you're the one 1.00

01:16:21.340 who said that blacks couldn't figure out how to produce a voter I.D. All right. You're the one 1.00

01:16:25.780 who suggested they couldn't understand how to like Xerox a license. So stop. Right. Just stop.

01:16:32.880 OK. Speaking of elite and out of touch, well-known people, I'm not going to call her a celebrity,

01:16:37.940 but she's a well-known person. 0.99

01:16:40.000 This next gal is a celebrity 1.00

01:16:41.460 and her name is now Emily Blunt. 0.99

01:16:43.460 She is one of the stars

01:16:44.560 of the new Devil Wears Prada 2.

01:16:48.040 She, of course, had a very funny role

01:16:49.860 in Devil Wears Prada 1. 0.98

01:16:52.040 She's not only a rich celeb, 0.69

01:16:53.980 she's married to a rich celeb, Priya.

01:16:55.700 She's married to John Krasinski,

01:16:57.500 who's also a very well-known actor.

01:17:00.160 And she was asked her advice

01:17:03.100 for young working people

01:17:05.040 who don't like their jobs.

01:17:07.280 Take a listen to what she said. 1.00

01:17:08.940 Do you have any tips for girls who are hating their jobs right now? 1.00

01:17:11.800 Quit. 1.00

01:17:12.460 No.

01:17:13.860 Look, I think just find something that you deeply want to do.

01:17:17.400 Even if you're earning no money, as long as you love it, you'll be happy.

01:17:21.780 Okay.

01:17:22.760 She first says quit.

01:17:25.320 And then she says, oh, no, just find something you deeply love to do.

01:17:28.980 You tell me, as a young person yourself, how realistic either of those two options is for most young people today.

01:17:35.220 In this economy, not at all, unfortunately. I mean, I think we all wish that we could quit our jobs and do what we love. And for a lot of women, that's going to be stay home and be a mother and a wife. But unfortunately, our economy doesn't allow that. For many, many decades now, the system has essentially been rigged against that. And now we have such an affordability crisis. I mean, I live in California. And let me tell you, it is expensive to live anywhere in the state, let alone Los Angeles, where I currently reside.

01:18:02.240 And to just say that young people should just be quitting their job simply because they don't like it or are unhappy in them is pretty unrealistic.

01:18:10.580 I mean, we all wish, but it's not going to happen anytime soon.

01:18:15.260 I mean, it's like so out of touch, Isabel, like this.

01:18:19.320 It's just it's not a huge deal. Right. But it is indicative of a certain attitude.

01:18:24.100 She's got millions. Right. You can't just quit.

01:18:27.480 The average American cannot quit.

01:18:28.900 They have a job that was hard to get and they're worried about getting fired, never mind quitting, about getting another job.

01:18:35.180 You can't just say, oh, what I really want to do is star in Hollywood movies across from Meryl Streep like Emily Blunt.

01:18:43.720 And so I'll just throw my factory job out the door or I'll give up my Walmart cashier job and maybe my life will look just like Emily's.

01:18:52.420 yeah you know beyond just being a class uh differentiation here megan and the the wealthy

01:18:56.900 elitist thing i also think this is a generational divide where millennials were really programmed

01:19:01.780 by culture as they were growing up to make their entire identity about their job their career was

01:19:07.780 everything of who they were and in fact that's what we ask people today when they grow up and

01:19:12.260 they graduate from school the very first thing people ask you is what do you do because your

01:19:15.780 identity really is wrapped up in your career for gen z that's been very difficult because there is

01:19:20.740 is currently a very severe youth unemployment crisis in our country. There are 10 million

01:19:25.780 members of our generation that can't find a job. Ironically, while there are about 10 million

01:19:30.440 illegal immigrants that even Republican congressmen are trying to offer mass amnesty,

01:19:34.980 but I really think Priya hit the nail on the head there. It's been rigged against young people.

01:19:38.620 Because of that, there's a good thing happening as a result. Young people are looking elsewhere

01:19:42.580 for their identity. And I think that's where you're starting to see a lot of this culture 0.67

01:19:46.040 war related to marriage and children start to happen with young people. But ultimately,

01:19:51.000 your career matters. Having a paycheck matters. Giving something back to society matters. But

01:19:55.540 that's not where your identity should come from. It's coming from faith, which is having a massive

01:19:59.440 resurgence with young people right now. And it comes from your family, the relationships that

01:20:03.680 you build and ultimately what you leave behind. Okay, but you hit on something and you mentioned

01:20:09.780 it in your reference to them ripping on you on The View. People aren't having kids right now, 0.85

01:20:14.380 which is actually quite scary.

01:20:15.880 You know, like the young people in a perfect world, 0.89

01:20:18.800 they'd be getting jobs if they want them

01:20:20.280 and they'd be having kids 0.91

01:20:21.440 while they're still young enough to have them 1.00

01:20:22.980 and not have to worry about fertility issues, 0.99

01:20:25.080 which will creep in in the mid thirties 1.00

01:20:26.800 for pretty much every woman.

01:20:29.520 Ben Sasse was on 60 Minutes this past week

01:20:32.580 and dear Ben Sasse is, you know,

01:20:34.960 struggling with such a devastating form

01:20:36.700 of pancreatic cancer,

01:20:37.700 but really fighting the good fight

01:20:38.920 and has been speaking out in very sage and wise ways.

01:20:42.680 And he called attention,

01:20:44.080 Think about this. I mean, this guy, like, he could be talking about anything right now as he feels, you know, his life in the balance. And this is one of the things he wanted to bring up. This was on the extra portion, the overtime portion of Sunday, of 60 Minutes on Sunday. Listen to what he said, Sat 31.

01:21:01.420 All across the industrialized rich world, people have just stopped having babies in the last couple of decades.

01:21:08.260 We're at replacement rate, birth rates, nowhere in the industrialized world except Mormons and Jewish populations in Israel and in some parts of the U.S. 0.62

01:21:19.860 Except for those two categories, every other industrialized nation has stopped having babies. 0.63

01:21:25.020 That is super weird.

01:21:26.760 We've stopped having sex.

01:21:28.820 Sex has collapsed demographically, premarital, extramarital, marital.

01:21:34.060 It is very weird, I don't have a phone on me, but that we carry around these super devices

01:21:39.120 in our pockets that have distracted us from some of the most fundamental human activities

01:21:45.160 and aspirations.

01:21:45.840 Having a baby is a bet on the future, and almost everywhere in the world, and the world

01:21:51.620 is richer and richer and richer statistically than it's ever been, people have decided,

01:21:55.580 eh, actually babies are kind of an inconvenience.

01:21:57.840 Babies have always been an inconvenience and the most glorious thing you can do to enrich your

01:22:03.060 family and to make a bet on the future. How weird that we've stopped having sex. We've stopped

01:22:07.820 making babies. We've decided that being distracted by a dopamine hit around Candy Crush might be a

01:22:15.180 good way to spend your time. Not if you're a full human. I want to stick with you on this one,

01:22:20.560 Isabel, since you're a young mom. And just to add to what he said, listen to this via the New York

01:22:25.800 Post in February. In the U.S., a staggering one in three men, one out of three men and one out of

01:22:33.060 five women have not had sex in the past year, according to the general social survey. Obviously, 0.56

01:22:41.000 we're talking about grown adults, one in three men, one in five women. And everything he said

01:22:46.380 about the birth rate was exactly right as well. Your thoughts? I love how Ben Sasse articulated 0.58

01:22:50.460 that, that having a baby is a bet on the future and it is never easy. It is always an inconvenience.

01:22:55.800 but it's always a blessing.

01:22:57.400 My daughter turned one yesterday, Megan,

01:22:59.440 and it was a crazy reflection on the last year of my life

01:23:03.040 that I've had to make a lot of sacrifices along the way

01:23:05.320 in my career, in my personal life.

01:23:07.040 Our marriage has certainly taken on a new adventure

01:23:09.460 with bringing this new life into the world,

01:23:11.540 but it's created this opportunity for fulfillment

01:23:14.100 and meaning and purpose

01:23:15.360 that has never existed before in my life.

01:23:17.840 The Institute for Family Studies

01:23:19.140 has done a lot of research into happiness and fulfillment

01:23:21.940 with people under 35 who are married with kids

01:23:24.860 or who are unmarried and without kids.

01:23:26.860 And for men, married men with children under 35

01:23:29.920 are two and a half times happier

01:23:31.660 than their unmarried childless counterparts.

01:23:34.080 And that's three times happier for young women.

01:23:37.160 In the midst of this mental health crisis

01:23:38.640 that is driven a whole lot by our phones,

01:23:40.980 ironically designed to connect us,

01:23:42.880 people are finding real purpose and fulfillment

01:23:45.020 in the age-old truth of not being alone,

01:23:47.860 in making more people,

01:23:49.260 in committing your life to someone,

01:23:50.860 which takes courage.

01:23:52.060 And yet when you see how culture responds to that,

01:23:54.480 people get so viscerally angry because we have been programmed to believe that a husband or wife

01:24:00.300 and children will ruin your life forever. It'll destroy your career. It'll destroy your friends.

01:24:04.720 It'll destroy your relationships. None of that is true. In fact, us self-isolating is what's

01:24:09.600 destroying all of those things. It's amazing when you think about what a woman's body can do

01:24:16.200 in growing a human. A girlfriend of mine, she was pregnant and the husband was asking her about

01:24:22.040 something that happened at work. And I remember she goes, hey, quiet. I'm making eyelashes.

01:24:29.020 It's really, it's like incredible. A lot of women get obsessed with like, I got to get this proposal

01:24:33.260 in or I got to make partner. It's like, no, I'm making eyelashes. Who else can do that? That's

01:24:37.960 actually an incredible accomplishment. But Priya, part of the problem is in both those sex numbers

01:24:43.480 and the baby numbers, like it's apathy. There is the issue of like weird leftists who don't want

01:24:50.520 sex and they don't want the opposite sex and they don't want children because they think

01:24:53.940 it's bad for the environment or whatever.

01:24:56.020 But there's also apathy and I think fear, fear.

01:25:01.600 I think like we've scared young men and maybe some young women too.

01:25:06.620 But I think if I were like given the magic wand and told to solve this problem, I would

01:25:10.820 start with young men and like making them feel empowered to ask for a date, to go on

01:25:17.320 a date, to be assertive, to like put themselves out there, to not worry about Me Too or toxic

01:25:23.540 masculinity. I would start there, but you're much closer to it than I am. So you tell me your

01:25:27.980 thoughts. Yeah, that's exactly right. You hit the nail on the head there. I was going to bring it

01:25:30.900 up. Me Too has very much disenfranchised young men among like many other movements, feminism

01:25:37.100 being one of them. I mean, we've completely rejected young men, masculinity, what they

01:25:42.600 actually want to live for what brings them purpose and makes them a benefit to you know women but 0.55

01:25:48.220 also just society as a whole we've completely rejected that so i think that in disenfranchising

01:25:53.720 men we've also disenfranchised women i mean we've seen men become more feminine and we've seen women

01:25:59.440 become more masculine i mean this is inherently incorrect for what we're naturally designed for

01:26:05.040 in the relationships that we're designed for um so i think that you know we do need to start

01:26:10.320 rejecting cultures like Me Too, like feminism and getting back to what is inherently fundamental to

01:26:16.540 life in our society. And that is the family unit. So do you find, I don't know your personal

01:26:22.000 situation at all. This is the first time we've spoken, but you're stunning and you're obviously

01:26:25.400 very bright. Do you find it's easy to attract men to like be asked out? Like what's your

01:26:30.880 experience been? You know, I haven't had an issue in terms of being asked out, but like I mentioned

01:26:35.640 earlier. I live in Los Angeles, California, and I find the men to be I joke all the time. I'm like,

01:26:40.440 even the straight men are really gay. There is really, really difficult to find masculine men 0.91

01:26:45.700 out here. I mean, you know, I'm in a particular area where liberalism is at its height. And,

01:26:51.040 you know, I think the water does turn the frogs gay, especially in L.A. So, you know, it's really 0.99

01:26:57.240 difficult. But I yeah. Dang. I mean, listen, if you had said no one's pursuing you, I would have

01:27:04.440 falling out of my chair and giving up on life. Like that's, that shouldn't be possible. But I

01:27:08.500 know sadly it is now. Um, okay. Well, I think we should take a break. Cause I had to get a couple

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01:31:04.380 Isabel Brown and Priya Patel are back with me now. So ladies, this week in the House of

01:31:10.000 Representatives, there was a hearing on the FACE Act, which people have come to know a lot about

01:31:15.220 recently, thanks to Don Lamon, because the FACE Act not only prevents you from protesting in

01:31:20.960 certain ways, an abortion clinic or a pregnancy and childbirth center, it also prevents you from

01:31:27.840 storming a church like Don Lamon and his friends did in St. Paul, Minnesota. But there's been

01:31:34.300 long an objection to federal law criminalizing this kind of thing by people who are pro-life

01:31:42.760 and think this law gets overused only on pro-lifers.

01:31:47.620 And there have been questions about whether this is necessary in any event.

01:31:51.340 Like if somebody crosses into the face of an abortion-seeking woman,

01:31:54.760 that would generally be a matter for state law and the local police.

01:31:59.700 And so the House held a hearing on what they called the,

01:32:02.760 they said, from tool to weapon, the FACE Act and the dangers of federalizing criminal law.

01:32:08.100 So they took a look at the Biden-Harris administration's,

01:32:10.960 what they called weaponization of the FACE Act. And that's what the hearing was about. And there

01:32:15.340 was a woman who I believe was called by the Democrats. Her name is Jessica Waters. She

01:32:20.780 teaches at American University. She is a senior scholar in residence, justice, law, and criminology.

01:32:28.180 She fancies herself some sort of an expert in U.S. reproductive rights. And Brandon Gill,

01:32:35.900 who I think is most of our VIP in the House of Representatives, he's just so good. His

01:32:40.300 cross-examination is amazing. He's just so effective. And I also love that he is Dinesh

01:32:45.540 D'Souza's son-in-law. He laid into this woman. And for once, like you never hear this done.

01:32:53.800 He just refused to accept the whole reproductive rights thing as a summary for what abortion is

01:33:02.960 and what we're really talking about when we're talking about abortion and these clinics and

01:33:08.400 what goes on at them. I'm going to play the soundbite. I do warn the audience. It's very

01:33:12.780 graphic and it is disturbing because so is the procedure. Here he is cross-examining this

01:33:20.140 Jessica Waters. You're an advocate for abortion, for abortion policy. What's your favorite type

01:33:26.700 of abortion? I am an advocate for patients having access to the full realm of reproductive health

01:33:33.660 care. But do you have a preferred method of abortion that you like? I do not. First type

01:33:39.180 is called a suction abortion. This is when the cervix is dilated and a strong suction 29 times

01:33:47.580 the power of a household vacuum cleaner tears the baby's body apart and sucks it through the

01:33:52.880 hose into a container. Do you prefer that method? I stand by my former testimony. That sounds kind

01:33:59.800 of gross, doesn't it? Sounds pretty gruesome. You don't want to talk about abortion itself. Why is

01:34:06.080 that? I would prefer to talk about the reason that the committee called the hearing. Is it

01:34:09.660 because it's uncomfortable to talk about? It should be uncomfortable. I would prefer to talk

01:34:14.900 about the reason the hearing was called and the basis of my expert testimony. It's uncomfortable

01:34:19.460 to hear this, isn't it? It is. I think it is because it's barbaric and evil. It went on for

01:34:27.480 many minutes and he went through all of the methods and they got progressively gruesome.

01:34:33.540 The one we just aired was the least offensive of the bunch. It's very jarring. And Isabel,

01:34:42.940 you never hear it. You never, even Republicans never do this. Even pro-lifers never do this.

01:34:50.880 And it's extremely effective to hear somebody actually say what it is.

01:34:55.500 It is, Megan, and it should make anyone listening to that uncomfortable, whether you call yourself a pro-lifer or a pro-choicer when really the only choice truly presented is often abortion or anywhere in between.

01:35:07.520 It's because we have swept this under the rug for the last 70 plus years in American culture and politics that so many people today don't even know what an abortion procedure actually is.

01:35:17.760 I speak on college campuses nationwide about this topic quite often because college students feel very strongly about it, particularly young women, as they are pandered to by the Democrat Party, that this is the only thing that we should ever be voting on is our genitalia and our reproductive rights.

01:35:33.100 But the minute that you start unpacking what an abortion procedure actually is, I see this not just in the halls of Congress like you saw in that clip, but in college campus rooms as well, where people start squirming in their seat because it is the death, the intentional destruction, the murder of an innocent life in the most gruesome ways possible.

01:35:49.940 And Brandon Gill did an amazing job outlining that.

01:35:53.100 The audacity to testify as an expert, a subject matter expert, as an abortion advocate and

01:35:58.880 refuse to acknowledge what an abortion actually is, I hope wakes a lot of people up in this

01:36:04.020 country.

01:36:04.600 And I said this four or five times this week, but I truly believe Congress needs 535 Brandon

01:36:09.940 Gills.

01:36:11.160 Yeah, we should be so lucky. 0.99

01:36:12.960 The woman's reaction, Priya, to sit there and not even acknowledge she—like, this is the whole thing with the pro-choice crew, you know, the pro-abortion crew, that they won't go there. 0.61

01:36:32.220 They have to treat an unborn baby like it's just a clump of cells, like it's not a killing, right?

01:36:40.900 Like, it's not a killing. They can't acknowledge even how disturbing that description sounds to any sane person.

01:36:48.540 Even if you believe in abortion, even if you believe in a woman's right to have an abortion, you can't acknowledge how upsetting that sounds and then defend it.

01:36:59.100 You know, and we've let them get away with that for too long. 0.89

01:37:02.020 Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, you hit the nail on the head there in terms of them referring to it as just a clump of cells.

01:37:07.680 They tried to dehumanize abortion left and right.

01:37:11.020 That is their main motive and goal.

01:37:13.080 And I mean, frankly, it's really the only way that they can make this palatable to people.

01:37:17.480 Because look, Brandon did a phenomenal job because they don't get confronted with the

01:37:22.680 reality of what an abortion is and what it looks like often enough.

01:37:26.280 I would argue that they never do.

01:37:28.120 And most people, like Isabel said, don't understand what an abortion actually is.

01:37:32.440 They don't understand the procedure.

01:37:33.660 They don't understand how barbaric and gruesome that this is whatsoever.

01:37:36.520 And for Brandon to actually get up there and actually make this woman confront the reality of the thing that she's defending is so important.

01:37:44.020 And we need to see more of it because it is a very uncomfortable truth to face.

01:37:48.220 You saw how uncomfortable she was and she was sitting there as a staunch defender of it.

01:37:53.360 Yeah, it's not like she was about to have an abortion.

01:37:55.800 She was in a House testimony just talking about words and descriptions of what is done in these procedures.

01:38:01.960 You know, one of the battles that we've seen in the abortion area over the year is sometimes Republicans have passed laws requiring the would-be abortive mother to look at a photo of the fetus before she has the abortion.

01:38:16.940 And that has been struck down by courts over and over as too much of an impingement on the right.

01:38:22.480 And that never made sense to me.

01:38:24.740 I mean, I think the bare minimum you can ask a mother who's about to abort her child is to look

01:38:31.860 at what's there. See, like, ideally an ultrasound. Absolutely. Like, see the baby moving. If you

01:38:39.500 still want to make that decision right now, it is your right. It is your legal right. But

01:38:43.980 why shouldn't we insist on informed consent and the information being delivered? And if the woman 1.00

01:38:52.980 still wants to do it. Yes, that is still her right in various states. But at the bare minimum 1.00

01:38:58.520 seems to be that we can require them to look at the child they created. This seems like

01:39:03.940 just such an obviously fair thing to require. You had the sex, you did the act, you knew the

01:39:12.820 risks of doing that. In 99.9% of cases, the abortion advocates always want to point out

01:39:17.380 rape and incest. It's like, that's almost none of the cases. You should look at your baby. You

01:39:23.980 should look at your son or daughter before you choose to do this. It just seems to me a matter

01:39:28.640 of basic fairness. Okay. Big, big switch of gears here because I meant to get to this earlier,

01:39:33.420 but I forgot when we were talking about Emily Blunt and her blasé attitude about finding a new 1.00

01:39:38.520 job. Lisa Kudrow, who is a very famous actress. She made her name on Friends and then she went 0.95

01:39:45.460 on to become a movie star. She's working on a new project now, and bizarrely, she has chosen

01:39:50.900 to speak out about her time on Friends. Now, it just came out that thanks to the residuals deal

01:39:56.560 these actors struck, that they are each still earning an estimated $20 million a year, each of

01:40:07.040 them still, on this show that's been off the air for decades now, never mind what they were earning

01:40:13.980 at the time, which was ultimately $1 million an episode for each of them because the show

01:40:19.000 was such a hit and they had greater bargaining power and they used it. Fine. No one begrudges

01:40:22.760 them that. But you would think if that were you, you would have one basic guiding principle,

01:40:27.820 which would be gratitude. Gratitude for being cast in the show, to the writers for making you

01:40:36.900 sound funnier than you probably were, and to the American public for making you so rich, right?

01:40:42.580 She's gone a different way.

01:40:44.680 This is an interview she gave in the Times of London.

01:40:48.440 Okay, she says, first of all, friends captured a kind of innocence

01:40:53.180 that maybe younger generations have never gotten to experience.

01:40:56.840 But was it really that innocent, asks the Times?

01:41:00.180 Oh, no, she says.

01:41:01.280 There was definitely mean stuff going on behind the scenes.

01:41:05.400 At the start, they were each paid $22,500 an episode,

01:41:08.660 but instead of competing, they negotiated as a team, and they got $1 million an episode. Okay,

01:41:14.360 we talked about that. She took the lead. She's a badass, you know, girl boss, I guess. She took

01:41:18.280 the lead in the negotiations. But she writes, as a result, okay, she, Aniston, and Cox, meaning

01:41:24.380 Jennifer Aniston and Courtney Cox, became the highest paid television actresses in the world

01:41:27.720 at the time. But Kudrow, now 62, is talking about the show's writer's room on the Warner Brothers

01:41:33.220 lot in Burbank, California, where the show was filmed. She says it contained 12 to 15 staff,

01:41:38.660 mostly men, some of whose gags have made it into popular culture. Oh my God is an expression of

01:41:46.520 melodramatic outrage. Thanks to them. We were on a break is another one for philandering originating

01:41:53.040 in this room and so on. Don't forget, we were recording in front of a live audience of 400,

01:41:58.360 she says. And if you messed up one of those writers lines or it didn't go or didn't get

01:42:04.080 the perfect response. They could be like, can't the bitch fucking read? She's not even trying. 1.00

01:42:09.760 She fucked up my line. And we know that back in the room, the guys would be up late discussing 0.91

01:42:15.460 their sexual fantasies about Jennifer and Courtney. It was intense. Okay. Already like

01:42:22.120 what, what do you, okay. So they were mad when you messed up their lines because they wanted

01:42:26.400 them read the way they wanted them read. Hello. Welcome to every writer anywhere who writes for

01:42:32.160 an actor or actress, ask Neil Simon, the greatest playwright ever, if you changed one of his words,

01:42:38.860 you would get it from him. You might not get cast in his next play. The writers want it read the

01:42:42.500 way they wrote it. That's the way they envisioned it. They're the comedians, not you. In 1999,

01:42:47.560 they point out there was a sexual harassment court case brought by the writer's assistant,

01:42:52.540 Amani Lyle, whose job it was to transcribe brainstorming sessions. She was shocked to hear

01:42:58.200 friends' writers discussing sleeping with Aniston and Cox, feigning masturbation, and receiving oral 1.00

01:43:03.960 sex. Crucially, Lyle lost the case. At the time, that was seen as a victory for creative freedom 1.00

01:43:10.180 for the writers on one of the most popular TV shows of all time. Oh, says Kudrow, it could be

01:43:16.620 brutal, but these guys, and it was mostly men in there, were sitting up until 3 a.m. trying to

01:43:21.440 write the show, so my attitude was, say what you like about me behind my back because it doesn't

01:43:27.160 matter, she says, waving her hands in front of her with Phoebe-like distaste. Why does any of

01:43:31.700 this matter now, asks the writer. Fast forward to two decades, and they're meeting Kudrow in

01:43:36.440 London to discuss the return of her HBO Max sitcom, The Comeback, which she co-wrote with

01:43:42.860 Michael Patrick King. So she's turned over this new leaf, gals, where she's like going to criticize 1.00

01:43:49.480 the writers. They were sexist pigs. They fantasized about having sex with Jennifer Aniston. And who's 1.00

01:43:54.900 she co-writing this show with i mean reportedly the biggest sexist pig writing material anywhere 0.95

01:44:01.380 other than who's a darren star the other guy michael patrick king who was a key writer and 0.97

01:44:07.580 director for sex and the city which truly is a misogynistic property but lisa kudrow's got

01:44:15.620 thoughts now priya on the writers who made her a multi-millionaire yeah yeah you know i think this

01:44:23.140 is so funny of course this again it like rings very similar to the me too movement of course

01:44:27.980 like when you're in these situations and you're benefiting from these people you know it's all

01:44:32.380 fine and dandy you'll brush things under the rug but 20 years later after you've had some chance 0.98

01:44:37.500 to reflect you all of a sudden regret or all of a sudden they're sexist pigs and you know i just 0.98

01:44:42.220 find this so ridiculous i mean look it's not it's uncouth and it's you know not appropriate for these 0.99

01:44:48.240 men to be fantasizing about these women but that's just the reality of things that's i guess what 0.98

01:44:52.720 being a man kind of is you fantasize about women you're sexually attracted to them um i would advise

01:44:57.920 them to not do it in the workplace but you know i don't understand why that's just such a big deal

01:45:03.240 it's not like they were you know directly sexually harassing her or anything of that sort and you

01:45:08.260 know again she brushed it under the rug 20 years ago but all of a sudden it's a problem and again 0.99

01:45:12.240 now she's writing she's writing a new show with like the probably one of the most sexist pigs 0.90

01:45:18.000 that are out there yeah isabel it's like first of all is the 1990s you know it's like you girls 0.84

01:45:25.280 weren't yet born but trust me i was there and this was a nothing to have somebody like talk

01:45:30.400 about you sexually not when you're not even there whose job it is to write sometimes saucy scenes

01:45:37.460 for you and sexualized scenes for you i mean i would be concerned if they weren't thinking about

01:45:43.160 jennifer aniston like that every man in america was looking at her thinking about that this is

01:45:48.120 just so cheap right because she's the star and these guys aren't isabel so they don't they're

01:45:54.960 not getting interviewed by the times of london and they're certainly not making 20 million dollars a

01:46:00.020 year still off of their clever jokes like she is and it wasn't just every man fantasizing about

01:46:06.560 the character of rachel green she is every girl's archetype for what you still want to aspire to be

01:46:12.100 in America. I prefer with Friends, Megan, to just focus on the nostalgia of the show so

01:46:17.080 much more than anything else. This remains one of Gen Z's most streamed TV shows. It is

01:46:22.300 consistently a top 10 show on HBO Max. It's one of my comfort shows. I quote the show all the time,

01:46:28.800 at least once a week. And I think it speaks so highly to a time in our culture where everything

01:46:33.100 wasn't so constantly politicized the way that you're now seeing many of the actors even in the

01:46:38.200 show take that into their next step in their career and the real world it was just a group

01:46:42.500 of friends navigating young adulthood and living in a big city and figuring out what it means to

01:46:47.420 grow up and i think it really makes our generation so nostalgic for a time we weren't here for

01:46:52.040 or we don't remember because none of the tv shows marketed to young people teenagers or young adults

01:46:57.340 are remotely like that anymore i mean have you seen euphoria what's marketed to be the best

01:47:02.000 I know. TV show for teenagers today. So crazy. Yes. All the themes are dark and like drugs and

01:47:09.080 raunchy, weird sex and like trans everything. It's like Friends was wholesome by by any standard, 1.00

01:47:17.800 you know, compared to what we put out there today. And funny, my favorite piece of Friends was the

01:47:22.880 the theme around Monica, Courtney Cox's character, on how competitive she was,

01:47:28.040 how she couldn't keep it in check, no matter how friendly, you know, the competition. That show

01:47:33.940 gave us all so many funny laughs. And it was appointment television. That was back in the day

01:47:37.740 where, you know, you couldn't really watch TV at your leisure on your time schedule. You had to be

01:47:44.300 in front of the TV on Thursday night at nine if you wanted to see it. And it was one of those

01:47:48.800 things that brought the country together. You know, you girls could probably relate when I

01:47:51.940 mentioned the words Tiger King, you know, like during COVID. That was something we all watched

01:47:56.920 together. And we all love doing that. And that's how TV used to be for the big hits. I would really

01:48:02.120 rather this woman just say thank you and cash or checks gratefully. And gratitude is what I feel

01:48:08.440 toward both of you for being here. Thank you so much for coming up. Have a great weekend. And we

01:48:14.080 are back on Monday with Emily Jashinsky. Enjoy this beautiful May day. And let's hope the weather

01:48:19.920 holds out for some fun in the sun over Saturday and Sunday. See you Monday. Thanks for listening

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 01, 2026

New Video of WHCD Shooter, and Major Questions About Male Accuser in JP Morgan Exec Story, with Buck Sexton, Isabel Brown, and Priya Patel ｜ Ep. 1308

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