The Megyn Kelly Show - May 07, 2026


New York Times Sued Over Alleged Discrimination of White Man, Trump's Big Indiana Win： AM Update 5⧸7

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A federal discrimination watchdog sues the New York Times alleging it violated the Civil Rights Act and passed over a white male to fill a position. President Trump scores major victories in Indiana, where Republicans who defied his redistricting push are paying the price at the ballot box. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick faces new questions about his past ties to Jeffrey Epstein, as lawmakers clash over whether his closed-door testimony cleared the air or raised more concerns. And Ted Turner, the billionaire entrepreneur behind CNN and TNT, passes away after a years-long battle with Lewy body dementia.

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00:00:00.400 All right, full-time thoughts. Craig, who stood out?
00:00:02.880 Brazil's lime cheesecakes started bright, didn't let up.
00:00:05.400 Nah, for me, Italian cappuccino was the standout in the box.
00:00:08.480 But if we're talking decadent performance, that's all France.
00:00:11.300 Chocolate creme brulee had the richest finishes.
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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party and the Megyn Kelly Wrap-Up
00:00:37.640 Show on SiriusXM Channel 111. It's Thursday, May 7th, 2026, and this is your AM Update.
00:00:44.940 It's really quite simple. You cannot take race or gender into account, period.
00:00:50.400 A federal discrimination watchdog suing the New York Times, alleging it violated the Civil Rights
00:00:56.440 Act and passing over a white male to fill a position. These results in Indiana really
00:01:01.840 showcase President Donald Trump's grip on the Republican Party. President Trump scores major
00:01:08.140 victories in Indiana primaries, where Republicans who defied his redistricting push are paying the
00:01:14.420 price at the ballot box. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick facing new questions over his past ties
00:01:21.240 to Jeffrey Epstein, as lawmakers clash over whether his closed-door testimony cleared
00:01:26.860 the air or raised more concerns.
00:01:29.920 And Ted Turner, the billionaire entrepreneur behind CNN and TNT, passing away after a years-long
00:01:36.320 battle with Lewy body dementia.
00:01:38.860 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:48.220 be sorry you did. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, or EEOC, a government-run
00:02:55.920 discrimination watchdog, filing a lawsuit against the New York Times on behalf of a white male
00:03:02.180 employee, alleging the media outlet violated the Civil Rights Act by passing him over for a
00:03:07.800 promotion because of his race and sex. The lawsuit filed in the Southern District of New York does
00:03:14.420 not name the journalist, but New York Magazine reports it is likely Bryant Rousseau, a senior
00:03:19.380 editor and producer on the Times' international desk who has been with the paper for more than
00:03:24.000 a decade, whose LinkedIn profile matches the job descriptions in the lawsuit. In 2025, the Times
00:03:31.040 opening a search for a deputy real estate editor. The position ultimately going to an outside
00:03:36.580 candidate, a non-white woman the EEOC alleges had little to no background in real estate journalism, 0.93
00:03:42.760 despite that experience being listed as a job requirement. The agency further alleging no
00:03:48.660 white male candidates advanced to the final round of interviews. The complaint claims the Times
00:03:53.920 deviated from its normal hiring process to include the eventual hire in the candidate pool,
00:03:59.540 despite her receiving a lower internal rating from the hiring panel than the other finalists.
00:04:05.860 From an EEOC statement, quote,
00:04:07.920 The New York Times has a well-documented commitment to enacting race and sex-conscious
00:04:12.760 decision-making in the workforce through its Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, or DEI,
00:04:17.900 policies. The lawsuit, putting it more bluntly, quote,
00:04:21.220 a necessary consequence of the NYT's intent to increase the percentage of non-white leaders
00:04:27.020 would be a decrease in the percentage of white leaders. The EEOC asking a judge to bar the
00:04:33.860 Times from discriminating against employees based on race or sex and to award back pay and other
00:04:39.480 damages to the rejected applicant. A spokesperson for the New York Times, Daniel Rhodes Ha,
00:04:45.340 releasing a statement, quote, the New York Times categorically rejects the politically motivated
00:04:50.240 allegations brought by the Trump administration's EEOC. Our employment practices are merit-based
00:04:56.500 and focused on recruiting and promoting the best talent in the world.
00:05:01.340 We spoke to employment attorney James Fett, who is not involved with this case,
00:05:05.380 but says allegations the Times deviated from its normal hiring process
00:05:09.100 could become a significant factor in the lawsuit.
00:05:12.480 Well, it's one of the important factors, but based on my review of that release,
00:05:17.780 they've got the Times right by the throat.
00:05:20.760 The noncompliance with your internal procedures is just one of the many red flags, whether it's a DEI case or a straight-up gender or straight-up race case.
00:05:31.960 That's always something that you look for if you are representing the employee.
00:05:37.600 Fett agrees with the Times' assertion that the case is politically motivated, but not necessarily in the way the paper frames it.
00:05:44.240 Well, it is politically motivated, but only to the extent that the Trump administration on day one said that they were going to vigorously enforce the civil rights law to ensure that the DEI wave was extinguished.
00:06:02.540 So, yeah, it's a policy mandate that the EEOC is following, but I'd say it's a good one.
00:06:09.140 In terms of it's politically motivated, that is something that is chanted almost every time you have a claim against an employer for violation of the civil rights laws with the DEI program.
00:06:21.840 As for Fett's prediction of the outcome.
00:06:25.020 It's in the Southern District of New York, which we know is they're going to have a liberal jury, most likely.
00:06:32.960 If they get a fair shot, they're going to get a very large judgment.
00:06:37.960 And I say that because the cases that have gone to trial have yielded whopping verdicts.
00:06:45.460 I myself have gotten whopping verdicts doing these kind of cases.
00:06:50.140 So we hope that I don't know who the judge assigned is, but that's another huge issue because judges have been known to put their thumb on the scale based on their philosophical predilections when it comes to handling these cases.
00:07:04.520 So I hope they get a I hope they get a fair judge.
00:07:07.960 And if they do, they should be looking forward to a healthy judgment.
00:07:13.180 Fett says even though many companies have blurred the line
00:07:16.420 between diversity goals and illegal discrimination,
00:07:19.420 the law itself is straightforward.
00:07:21.740 It's really quite simple.
00:07:23.620 You cannot take race or gender into account, period.
00:07:27.480 It doesn't matter if it's for DEI. 0.62
00:07:30.020 It doesn't matter if you call it affirmative action.
00:07:33.320 It doesn't matter if you call it correcting underrepresentation.
00:07:37.960 The law has been this way for a long time, but the rate of noncompliance with that law is at an all-time high when it comes to DEI.
00:07:47.620 You know, the Trump administration has another three years to enforce the law this vigorously.
00:07:54.020 We just have to hope that the next administration will fairly enforce, and I'm not optimistic that that's going to happen.
00:08:02.340 If the Democratic Party takes over, they have almost incorporated DEI as part of their religion.
00:08:11.000 It's almost a creed that if you're a liberal Democrat, you have to honor the request for DEI.
00:08:18.720 And that's crazy.
00:08:21.140 President Trump flexing his political muscle in Indiana, where Republican primary voters
00:08:27.140 backed most of the state Senate candidates he endorsed against GOP lawmakers who defied him
00:08:33.000 on redistricting. In December, Indiana's Republican-controlled state Senate breaking
00:08:38.580 with President Trump over congressional redistricting. The president backing a
00:08:42.780 proposal to redraw the state's congressional map in an effort to expand the GOP's House majority.
00:08:49.080 The Trump-backed proposal would have effectively eliminated Indiana's two Democrat-held congressional
00:08:54.420 districts. But despite passing the statehouse, the map failed in the Senate 31 to 19, with 21
00:09:01.600 Republicans joining Democrats to oppose it. President Trump, at the time, posting a warning
00:09:07.540 to True Social, quote, anybody that votes against redistricting and the success of the Republican
00:09:13.460 Party in D.C. will be, I am sure, met with a mega primary in the spring. I will do everything within
00:09:19.880 my power to make sure that they will not hurt the Republican Party and our country again.
00:09:25.760 Tuesday's results, delivering a political bloodbath for the Republicans who crossed
00:09:30.380 President Trump on redistricting. Of the seven GOP state senators who voted against the map,
00:09:37.040 five were defeated by Trump-backed primary challengers. One incumbent survived,
00:09:41.680 while the seventh race, as of yesterday evening, remains too close to call.
00:09:46.440 The losses were not close, each of the five defeated incumbents losing by double digits.
00:09:53.180 One of the biggest upsets coming in the race involving veteran state senator Travis Holdman,
00:09:58.340 the chamber's number three Republican, the results increasing pressure on Republican
00:10:02.600 leader and Indiana state senator Rod Bray, a top target of President Trump, though he
00:10:08.040 is not up for re-election until 2028.
00:10:11.000 A MAGA ally in the state telling Politico the primary defeats could shift nine votes
00:10:15.600 away from Bray's block as lawmakers who survived Tuesday's purge now face growing pressure from
00:10:22.160 the Trump wing of the party. CNN's Arlette signs yesterday on what these Indiana results could
00:10:28.600 mean for the broader Republican Party heading into the midterms. These election results could
00:10:33.840 potentially embolden Republicans in other states as they are pursuing redistricting efforts. We
00:10:39.840 have really seen a slate of southern states try to push forward on redrawing congressional maps.
00:10:47.060 These results in Indiana really showcase President Donald Trump's grip on the Republican Party. His
00:10:53.080 approval ratings nationally are failing, but it shows that he still has significant sway within
00:10:59.080 conservative circles, something to watch heading into these consequential midterm elections.
00:11:03.840 With Tuesday's result, the likelihood of the Indiana state legislature revisiting
00:11:08.220 redistricting is high. Elsewhere Tuesday night, Tuesday's primaries finalizing the field in two
00:11:13.840 nationally watched statewide races in Ohio, Republican Vivek Romaswamy handily securing
00:11:19.760 his party's nomination for governor, and will now face Democrat Amy Acton, who led Ohio's public
00:11:25.640 health response during COVID. And the state now set for a high-stakes U.S. Senate battle,
00:11:31.660 Republican Senator and incumbent John Husted, moving on to the general election against
00:11:36.880 Democrat Sherrod Brown, both men easily beating their respective primary competitors.
00:11:44.000 Coming up, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick under scrutiny on Capitol Hill after Epstein
00:11:49.780 Files raised new questions about his past contacts with the disgraced financier
00:11:54.760 and CNN founder Ted Turner dead at 87.
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00:12:56.420 donewithdebt.com. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick appearing before the House Oversight
00:13:03.920 committee yesterday for a transcribed interview about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:13:09.380 Secretary Lutnick, summoned by the committee after documents released in the Epstein files,
00:13:14.180 revealed the two had been in business together as recently as 2014, well after the disgraced
00:13:19.960 financier's 2008 conviction on prostitution charges involving a minor. The files also
00:13:26.640 containing a photo of Epstein, Lutnick, and a group of other men on Epstein's island.
00:13:32.020 The secretary, his wife, and their children visiting once in 2012, according to Lutnick.
00:13:37.620 Prior to the release of the files, Secretary Lutnick maintaining he had last been in contact
00:13:42.480 with Epstein in 2005.
00:13:45.220 The files revealing the two, who were neighbors in New York City, continued communicating
00:13:49.800 via email until at least 2018.
00:13:52.940 In yesterday's closed-door meeting, the secretary reportedly telling the committee
00:13:56.700 he did not have a personal or professional relationship when he was neighbors with Epstein.
00:14:01.340 He also reportedly said he never saw Epstein with any young women, nor did he witness anything
00:14:07.280 inappropriate. CBS reporting, Mr. Lutnick told the committee he met Epstein three times. The
00:14:12.960 first for a tour of Epstein's home, where he noticed a massage table. The second meeting
00:14:18.060 occurring on Epstein's island, the secretary and his family invited to lunch while on a trip to
00:14:23.140 the U.S. Virgin Islands. In a third meeting, the two discussing scaffolding in Epstein's foyer.
00:14:29.900 Congressman Ro Khanna, Democrat from California, giving reporters his impressions of the testimony.
00:14:35.660 Well, now we know why that interview was not videotaped.
00:14:40.260 If Donald Trump had seen the video transcript, he would have fired Howard Lutnick.
00:14:46.440 It was really embarrassing.
00:14:49.540 He was asked very straightforward questions about whether he regretted misleading the American people.
00:14:56.760 I mean, he said that he would never see Epstein again in 2005.
00:15:03.840 And everyone knows that he took his wife and kids to see Epstein in 2012.
00:15:08.360 And yet it was just contortions and lies and no acknowledgement that he misled the American public.
00:15:15.760 Chairman James Calmer, a Republican, casting the testimony differently.
00:15:20.860 I mean, I feel like that Lutnik's been very transparent.
00:15:24.060 He came in voluntarily.
00:15:25.140 I said before this thing started, the only thing that I had seen that Lutnick did wrong wasn't 100% truthful on the brief visit to the island with his family.
00:15:36.820 He corrected that in his opening statement.
00:15:40.000 And, you know, we'll see.
00:15:41.860 We'll continue our investigation.
00:15:43.320 And if we find that there were any misstatements by Lutnick, it's a felony to lie to Congress and he'll be held accountable.
00:15:50.680 It's too bad it's not a felony for a member of Congress to lie to the media.
00:15:55.140 Or we would be, we would have a lot of Democrats that would be having to log you up right now.
00:16:00.220 A transcript of the interview set to be released in the coming days.
00:16:06.100 Media mogul Ted Turner, pioneer of the 24-hour news network and founder of CNN,
00:16:12.680 dying yesterday surrounded by his family at the age of 87.
00:16:16.880 Born in 1938 in Cincinnati, Ohio, Turner would go on to inherit his father's billboard advertising company
00:16:23.820 before buying up radio stations and then turning his sites to television.
00:16:28.380 Eventually, Turner expanding into news.
00:16:31.140 On June 1st, 1980, launching the first ever 24-hour news network, CNN.
00:16:37.140 Turner aiming to broaden access to TV news, quote,
00:16:40.140 I worked until 7 o'clock, and when I got home, the news was over.
00:16:44.060 So I missed television news completely, and I figured there were lots of people like me.
00:16:49.060 In addition to CNN, Turner launching Turner Network Television, or TNT,
00:16:53.340 Turner Classic Movies, and Cartoon Network. He sold his networks to Time Warner in 1996 for
00:16:59.460 $7.5 billion, staying on as vice chairman. Turner's net worth taking a significant hit
00:17:06.620 as a result of the Time Warner merger with AOL at the peak of the dot-com bubble.
00:17:11.100 He resigned from his position as vice chairman in 2003, fully exiting the business in 2006,
00:17:16.980 pursuing other ventures, including the restaurant business with Ted's Montana Grill,
00:17:21.160 An avid philanthropist and conservationist, Turner, who is the second biggest landowner
00:17:26.660 in North America with 2 million acres, bringing bison back from near extinction, managing
00:17:32.600 the largest private bison herd with about 51,000 head, according to CNN.
00:17:38.320 In 2018, Turner publicly disclosing a Lewy body dementia diagnosis, a progressive brain
00:17:44.660 disease.
00:17:45.760 Turner marrying three times, the first marriage to Juliet Gale Nye, with whom he had two children.
00:17:51.160 The couple divorcing in 1964.
00:17:54.080 Later that same year, Turner marrying Jane Shirley Smith.
00:17:57.520 They had three children together before divorcing in 1988.
00:18:01.280 Finally, Turner marrying actress Jane Fonda.
00:18:04.240 The marriage lasting 10 years from 1991 to 2001.
00:18:08.740 In 2012, Turner telling Piers Morgan Fonda was probably the great love of his life
00:18:13.220 and he would likely never get over her, quote,
00:18:15.940 when you love somebody and you really love them, you never stop loving them.
00:18:20.020 There's nothing wrong with that. That's good. He is survived by his five children,
00:18:25.020 14 grandchildren, and two great-grandchildren.
00:18:31.360 That'll do it for your AM update. I'm Emily Jashinsky, host of After Party.
00:18:35.760 Catch The Megyn Kelly Show live on SiriusXM's The Megyn Kelly Channel,
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00:18:50.020 All right, full-time thoughts. Craig, who stood out?
00:18:52.960 Brazil's lime cheesecakes started bright, didn't let up.
00:18:55.500 Nah, for me, Italian cappuccino was the standout in the box.
00:18:58.560 But if we're talking decadent performance, that's all France.
00:19:01.400 Chocolate creme brulee had the richest finishes.
00:19:03.780 Canadian fireworks really showed up big too.
00:19:05.780 And Mexico's caramel churro ice cap gave me chills.
00:19:09.280 We are, of course, talking about Tim's taste of the globe lineup.
00:19:12.180 New globally-inspired Timbits and ice cap flavors available at Tim Horton's for a limited time.
00:19:16.540 Pick some up today, and while you're at it, check out Footy Prime Daily.
00:19:19.580 Thank you.