Sen. Chuck Grassley releases a declassified appendix to the declassified version of the John F. Durham report, and it reveals a new piece of evidence that could implicate Hillary Clinton and her campaign in a massive conspiracy to smear Donald Trump.
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00:09:26.420I'm so glad you asked me to do that because I think that's the critical point here.
00:09:31.740You know, I want to start by saying that there's probably no story that I've worked on longer and for more time than the hoax and fraud of the Russiagate story from the very beginning.
00:09:42.420My first article was on this about how journalistically dubious it was and how there was no evidence for it, despite the media's treatment of it as gospel, came exactly in mid-2016, the first time the Hillary Clinton campaign, and this was how the public was introduced to it, published this ad with this very sinister music and this baritone voice, essentially saying, what is it that the Russians have on Donald Trump?
00:10:04.500And my first reaction was, you know, this sounds like recycled McCarthyite scripts from the 1950s that had been discredited.
00:10:11.260You're going to say that Donald Trump is a Kremlin agent?
00:10:13.500And at the time, there were a handful, a very small handful of reporters, some on the right, you know, people like Molly Hemingway and Chuck Ross and Jerry Dunleavy, who were doing really forensic reporting about the utter lack of evidence.
00:10:28.900And there were a few of us, very few, who weren't associated with the right at the time, that also were saying from the very beginning, this is a fraud.
00:10:45.360And we were all expelled from not just liberal circles, but mainstream media circles, because the mainstream media took this and treated it as a national religion.
00:10:53.820This wasn't some scandal that lasted a few weeks, Megan.
00:10:56.600This was the number one story in the United States, extending beyond politics and news.
00:11:02.060You know, Saturday Night Live used to do those homages to Robert Mueller.
00:11:05.600The fact that Trump was a Russian agent, that the Trump campaign colluded with the Russians to hack into these emails, to manipulate the election.
00:11:12.620This was a fact that was treated as such by almost every major corporate media outlet.
00:11:17.760And if you were someone questioning it, you would be excluded.
00:11:22.000They didn't hear any dissent or debate on it.
00:11:25.080And I just let me just make two points, because I have so much to say on this, but I'm trying to figure out, like, exactly which ones for context make the most are most important.
00:11:35.340Number one is, you know, I've spent most of my journalism career, now 20 years, focused on what I consider to be the sinister and evil aspects of the U.S. intelligence community, the CIA, the FBI, the national security state.
00:11:48.340And, of course, there's a lot of documented evil they've done in the Cold War, coups, and supporting human rights abusers.
00:11:53.340But the idea always was that we were going to have this part of our government, you know, the CIA, intel, FBI, that would be, especially the intel community, that would do some rough things in secret.
00:12:05.180But the number one rule, the taboo, was it would never be turned against the domestic population.
00:12:10.640It would never interfere in our politics.
00:12:13.140And after 9-11, that taboo was destroyed.
00:12:16.080My big story that the first one I ever did was the NSA spying on American citizens, even though it was supposed to be aimed at foreign intelligence.
00:12:22.240But what we saw in 2016 and in 2020, let's remember, was the CIA working with the FBI and other parts of the U.S. government to disseminate absolute lies with no purpose other than to help the Democratic Party candidate win first Hillary Clinton and then Joe Biden and to defeat Donald Trump.
00:12:39.400The Russia gate fraud in 2016 and in 2020, the same people disseminating the absolute lie that all that reporting about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden in Ukraine and China, they claim that was Russian disinformation to discredit the evidence, got it censored from big tech.
00:12:56.440Direct interference in our politics from these agencies that are supposed to have no role in our domestic affairs based on absolute fabricated lies coordinated with the Democratic Party.
00:13:10.260And then I think the other important part of this, the other crucial part of it is, is that, Megan, for so long, even though I'm so glad we're getting more and more evidence, this was obviously flagrantly fraudulent from the start.
00:13:23.400I will just give you one, one example, the John Brennan, James Claffer had this New York Times article op ed yesterday trying to defend themselves.
00:13:32.980And they were trying to pretend that like collusion was never really a big part of the story.
00:13:37.100It was I mean, you could go through every paragraph is a lie or some kind of very like tendentious claim.
00:13:42.480But their main thing was, oh, collusion, that was never the idea of collusion was central to the entire scandal.
00:13:52.040The reason they appointed a special prosecutor, Robert Mueller, was only because of the claim that Trump and Russia were colluding and that Putin was controlling the United States through blackmail leverage over Trump.
00:14:03.420One of the most deranged conspiracy theories to which we've ever been subjected.
00:14:07.100And the reason you could tell this was a complete fraud from the beginning, though the media wouldn't hear it, was that two of the things that Trump did in terms of his Russia policy in his first term were aimed directly at undermining and even subverting and destroying the two most important vital interests of Russia.
00:14:25.680He flooded Ukraine with offensive arms.
00:14:28.960You can say that may not have been good.
00:14:36.120That's like the most threatening thing you could do to Russia.
00:14:38.360And more importantly, Trump was obsessed with destroying Nord Stream 2, which was the key to Russian future economic prosperity to sell cheap natural gas to Russia.
00:14:47.800He was trying to force the Russians, the Europeans to buy natural gas from the United States.
00:14:51.520How could you look and be the minimally rational person or minimally honest in the media and continue with this this this smear campaign, this lie that Putin has blackmail leverage over Trump because he has him on video urinating on prostitutes when the two key Trump policies were aimed at destroying the two most important vital interests.
00:15:11.820The whole thing was a scam and a fraud from the beginning, but the media was so obsessed with destroying Trump, they were willing to lie.
00:15:19.280They joined with the intelligence communities, which was in turn directed by the Hillary Clinton campaign.
00:15:23.560It is a massive scandal that we've never really come to terms with and and have just denied with like we're not even not coming to terms with it.
00:15:31.440We've just the media and these top Democrats just continue to act like anybody who has these questions or is actually just acknowledging these facts is a nutcase.
00:15:41.720It's infuriating. That op ed that Brennan dropped yesterday in The New York Times was outrageous.
00:15:49.080And I'll tell you, I don't know this case nearly as well as you do.
00:15:51.700But as a lawyer, I was offended by the number of holes through which a semi truck could drive in their argument and just offered up like we're supposed to swallow it, hook, line and sinker like just these declarations that Tulsi is a nutcase.
00:16:07.420And this is all made up and it's Tulsi politicizing intelligence as opposed to the other way around, you know, calling them out on their politicization, which is all over these documents.
00:16:20.060So we'll talk about that in one second. I want to go through Schellenberger's piece because it does lay it out.
00:16:26.320It's an assumption. There's no way Schellenberger just pop this up without having had advanced notice of the Durham annex, which is fine.
00:16:32.880That's great. We're the beneficiaries of it. All right.
00:16:38.920OK, a newly declassified appendix to Durham's report from May of 2023.
00:16:45.000Let's see. Reveals strong evidence that the FBI covered up a plot by the Hillary Clinton campaign to amplify ties between Trump and Russia, that the FBI covered up the plot.
00:17:00.340This is the new piece of it that's being dropped today because we knew Hillary did it.
00:17:04.240And Fox Digital had reported earlier this week that we were going to see this annex and it was going to suggest the FBI knew that she was going to do it and then covered it up.
00:17:12.980And that's where we're going now with this, that Kash Patel said he found the Durham appendix and thousands of other documents inside a burn bag in a secret room at FBI headquarters.
00:17:23.220Now, we knew that Hillary sought to link Trump to Russia.
00:17:28.940So that that piece is not new. But the declassified appendix adds considerable new details, reports Schellenberger, which suggest that the Clinton plan was real and the FBI helped to cover it up.
00:17:42.060The CIA believed Russian intelligence memos, which analyzed hacked emails and alleged a Clinton plan to vilify Trump by linking him to Russia were credible.
00:17:51.480So the CIA believed that those Russian intel memos we got from the Dutch were real and were credible in September of 2016, September 7th of 2016.
00:18:02.220The CIA sent an investigative referral over to the FBI that referenced the Clinton plan saying this looks legit.
00:18:11.000The FBI rejected the intelligence. The deputy director, Andrew McCabe, said, oh, there's multiple layers of hearsay in here.
00:18:21.420Some of the hacked emails, writes Schellenberger, had been obtained from American think tanks.
00:18:26.280Again, we believe the Russians hacked them. The Dutch saw the hacking materials.
00:18:30.760American think tanks. None could be substantiated.
00:18:34.000One author of the emails, for instance, was Leonard Bernardo, the regional director for Eurasia at Open Society Foundation.
00:18:41.000And this guy would wind up kind of denying that this sounded like him.
00:18:46.380But the best assessments, writes Schellenberger, were that they were likely authentic, that these were Bernardo emails and that the Russians had gotten their hands on them.
00:18:57.080And then he writes that multiple analysts did know the Russians had, in fact, hacked Bernardo's email.
00:19:02.520So he's just setting up the foundation for the information that's in here.
00:19:05.920So the CIA believes all this Russian hacked material and the FBI says no because of hearsay.
00:19:11.880But analysts believe at least this one guy, Bernardo, really was hacked.
00:19:16.840This really is him writing in these memos and including an email describing the Clinton campaign plan to frame Trump for Russia's hacking of the DNC emails.
00:19:29.140OK, plan to frame Trump for Russia's hacking of the DNC emails.
00:19:34.620In other words, Russia, they claim, did it and they had a plan to blame it on Trump.
00:19:41.520The FBI general counsel, unlike the deputy director, McCabe, but the general counsel, James Baker, according to the Durham appendix, did not dismiss the credibility of the Russian reports and believe the reports should not have been dismissed out of hand by McCabe and others at the FBI.
00:19:58.000So you have an internal disagreement at FBI and you have agreement over at the CIA that these Russian hacked materials are real and that Hillary Clinton has a plan to try to undermine Trump by claiming he's a Russian stooge to distract from her email scandal.
00:20:12.980Everyone, Schellenberger writes, involved, including the FBI, acknowledged the credibility of the source of the Russian intel reports and the hacked emails referred to as T1.
00:21:11.240Despite I'm quoting here from Schellenberger, despite credible evidence of a Clinton plan to fabricate a scandal accusing Trump of working with Russia to interfere in the election.
00:21:20.440The FBI appears to have done exactly what Clinton wanted.
00:21:24.120It opened its crossfire hurricane investigation into alleged coordination between between Russia and the Trump campaign.
00:21:29.780And it relied heavily on the Clinton funded steel dossier for investigative and surveillance purposes.
00:21:40.720Because what I'm being told is new is the FBI's willingness to help her to help her do this.
00:21:46.520And now we're seeing the behind the scenes machinations of them, like rejecting the Dutch intel stolen from the Russian intel about all the bad shit she did, but leaning into anything bad that Russia did.
00:22:01.900I know people know this, but I think it's important to really emphasize at the time all of this was happening, the 2016 election, the person in charge of the entire executive branch, which means the FBI and the CIA and the rest of it was Barack Obama.
00:22:17.260Barack Obama had named and had his crucial part of his administration, Hillary Clinton.
00:22:22.520She served as his secretary of state from 2008 to 2012 when John Kerry took over.
00:22:28.220She was integrated into the Obama administration.
00:22:34.760We know that Joe Biden wanted to run for president in 2016 and Obama told him, I'm not going to support you.
00:22:41.760So the entire executive branch is led by Barack Obama and then people like James Clapper and John Brennan and Jim Comey were close associates and colleagues of Hillary Clinton.
00:22:51.300And they were doing everything possible, abusing the intelligence community in order to help her win, regardless of what they needed to say, no matter how untrue that it was.
00:23:01.180I think it's just really important to remember that.
00:23:03.040And then also, although at the time, all of these FBI and CIA people pretended to be a political Jim, you know, Jim Comey with that smug, sanctimonious sense of how dare you question my integrity.
00:23:14.800I'm the highest and most noble public figure ever to exist.
00:23:37.540And we have those Lisa Page and Peter Strzok emails where they're just openly talking about how much they hate Trump and how they're going to use the FBI investigation.
00:23:46.240So the broad outlines have been known forever.
00:23:51.020And the idea that the FBI politicized their investigation, working with the CIA and handpicked intelligence in order to help the Hillary Clinton campaign's main theme.
00:24:00.100I could list to you a thousand different pieces of evidence that have been known for a long time.
00:24:04.380But this is I do think that and I want to go back to second when Donald Trump named Tulsi Gabbard DNI, it was amazing to watch the Democratic Party freak out because the Democrats were voting for a lot of Trump nominees unanimously, like Marco Rubio and others like that.
00:24:20.140They were totally fine with them, even though they were a long term Republican Party conservative, you know, on the conservative wing.
00:24:26.720The person they had the biggest problem with, one of the people was Tulsi Gabbard, even though she spent eight years as a Democratic member of Congress.
00:24:37.100Because they knew that she was an outsider and that her intention was to go into the CIA and go into the national intelligence state and expose the corruption that was oozing all through it.
00:24:49.880Whereas, you know, even more reliable career people who come from there aren't willing to walk, rock the boat that way.
00:24:56.340Even if they're more loyal to Trump, they're still institutionalists.
00:24:59.560That's why they her doing this is why they were petrified.
00:25:03.780Remember, Hillary Clinton called Hillary Tulsi Gabbard a Russian agent.
00:25:07.180They were calling everybody a Russian agent.
00:25:09.000They still are calling her a Russian agent.
00:25:10.840And what she did was bring a absolutely.
00:25:14.420Why should any of this have ever been hidden?
00:25:18.820And now what we're seeing are new pieces of information, specifically, you know, a lot of people in 2003 thought that Dick Cheney and the neocons were manipulating the intelligence about Iraqi MWMD because they wanted to go to war in Iraq.
00:25:31.580And they ignored the ones who were saying they didn't have MWMD and elevated the ones that said they did.
00:25:51.940These kind of details showing exactly which actors in these agencies deliberately disregarded the intelligence that undermined their case and highlighted the intelligence that they wanted to promote as a political narrative.
00:26:04.040Often, as you just got done saying from the Michael Schellenberg article in the same intelligence report, like, yeah, this helps.
00:26:11.100But let's consider this unreliable because this undercuts it.
00:26:15.900This is, Megan, the kind of extreme abuse of power that is as threatening to American democracy as anything they've accused Donald Trump of doing.
00:26:26.140This is deliberate interference in our elections using the secret parts of our agency, disseminating lies.
00:26:34.720And this happens all the time is when these intelligence agencies do bad things and people all the time stand up and say it, most of the evidence is hidden.
00:26:44.380So you get called a conspiracy theorist or there's no evidence.
00:26:47.380The evidence only comes out years later.
00:26:49.720And by which point it comes out, like now, and you want to say, hey, here's the proof.
00:27:04.440Because I consider, although the FBI and the CIA took leading roles in the Obama administration, the media to be the primary culprits.
00:27:10.900Without them abdicating their role of oversight of these intelligence agencies, of being journalistically skeptical of what they were being told,
00:27:18.580they were more eager than anybody to close ranks with Hillary's campaign and the intelligence agencies, they gave themselves pulchers for this totally fraudulent reporting.
00:27:28.500To this day, they're proud of the role they played, even though other than I'm sure Russia did do some interference.
00:27:34.820We all big countries interfere in each other's politics all the time.
00:27:39.580The scandal was the collusion between Trump and Russia.
00:27:42.320And even the extent of the Russian involvement was completely exaggerated to the point where we now question whether they really did do the hacking.
00:27:48.000The problem is it's going to be confined to shows like this, to people like you and me.
00:27:53.820Fortunately, we have a lot more influence than we did eight years ago.
00:27:57.280Independent media does, and so we can break through.
00:27:59.500Don't expect the New York Times and NBC News and the rest of them to take any of this seriously.
00:28:04.120They're going to run cover for it, which is why the New York Times published that Brennan Clapper op-ed, because they are as guilty as anybody.
00:28:10.360Well, that's true. I agree with everything you just said.
00:28:13.820However, if somebody gets indicted, the media is going to have to cover it and they'll run cover for it.
00:28:18.280But at least they'll have to cover it.
00:28:20.160They will have to put this in the pages of the New York Times if somebody gets indicted.
00:28:24.860And it might happen soon because today's July 31st.
00:28:27.620And when we heard Ratcliffe, head of CIA, talk about how, oh, no, no, no, no, we're not out of time on all of the criminal claims we could bring here.
00:28:34.400And he started citing the Durham investigation and putting various people's testimony, including Comey's, I think it was August of 2020.
00:28:42.320And there's a five-year statute of limitations on perjury under the federal.
00:28:46.060And Brennan, who denied that this deal.
00:28:56.800The Media Research Center has been looking at the media coverage of the new scandal and in a post put out by Nick Kyle, who is, I think, referencing it.
00:30:06.740I mean, of course, like I said, how can you, you know, it would be like if you were to say, hey, Jim Comey, we think that there was a lot of FBI wrongdoing under your leadership.
00:30:17.400We would like you to go and investigate whether that's that that really happened.
00:30:21.820Everybody's like, why would you ask Jim Comey?
00:30:31.020And you are right that if there are indictments, which there ought to be, the media will be forced to cover that.
00:30:37.960But I promise you, I promise you the way they're going to cover it is by blaming Trump again, by claiming that this is exactly the fear that people have, that he was going to abuse the legal system and the power of the intelligence community to persecute and imprison his political opponents.
00:30:57.640When that is exactly what they are so guilty of.
00:31:02.280The ones who have done that are these people who spent eight years abusing the power of these agencies for no reason other than to undermine Trump because they viewed him as a threat to their power.
00:31:12.620And this is how the mainstream media is going to depict this.
00:31:16.980But this is, you know, in so many ways, of course, they have made they've done their own grave.
00:31:22.760That's the reason why you have a gigantic audience, even though you have no major media corporation behind you.
00:31:27.380It's the reason why so many people in independent media are more trusted precisely because of this behavior.
00:31:53.380It's a very different ballgame today than it was even four years ago.
00:31:56.500Never mind eight or 10 years ago when she was doing all this.
00:31:59.740And back to Hillary, you know, the whole she she has a hat she's tweeted herself out wearing.
00:32:04.600But her emails, she's tried to turn it into this ridiculous joke like, oh, but the moon landing like you net cases who are still railing about this made up scandal.
00:32:15.820Well, this thing that, you know, you've you've used to try to unfairly tar me and you go on and you read about some of the like you point out, like the back story and the evidence on what she was doing.
00:32:29.840And the motivation to it, because she didn't think Trump was going to win and the intel agencies didn't think Trump was going to win.
00:32:38.000No one thought Trump was going to win, including in the fall of 16.
00:32:41.120But she did need to distract from that email scandal, which was around her neck like an albatross.
00:32:47.240Trust me, we were covering it every night on the Kelly file at Fox News and it was getting heated and heated.
00:32:52.920And the FBI was looking into, you know, her behavior and we didn't know how it was going to come down.
00:32:57.880It was bad. She had clearly violated violated the law with that homebrew server that had been accessed by foreign agents.
00:33:04.040She compromised national intelligence information.
00:33:06.700She did think she would never have allowed anybody at the State Department to do under her.
00:33:10.480And that leaves me back to Schellenberger here.
00:33:33.060Remember, Obama's president, Loretta Lynch is his attorney general and her DOJ slash FBI are investigating the Hillary Clinton email scandal.
00:33:43.540And also now we learn simultaneously working with the Hillary Clinton campaign to bury that scandal in favor of calling Trump a Russian agent agent.
00:33:51.860OK, so the Russian reports also claim that Attorney General Loretta Lynch had privately told a Clinton campaign official and they name her Amanda.
00:34:01.900Renteria, Renteria, Renteria, R-E-N-T-E-R-I-A, that she, Lynch, would make sure the FBI's server investigation did not, quote, go too far.
00:34:15.880So this is the sitting attorney general reassuring the group that's representing one of her targets, an FBI target of an investigation.
00:34:34.340After receiving the Russian reports, the FBI, which is under DOJ, so technically Loretta Lynch is their boss.
00:34:40.980They went to Loretta Lynch and gave her what's described here as a defensive briefing, like, yo, boss, the Russians have documents proving you had a meeting with the Clinton campaign and you told them you're not going to let our investigation into her go too far.
00:34:56.720And Andrew, Andrew McCabe told investigators that Loretta Lynch's reaction was, quote, odd.
00:35:03.300And James Baker, the general counsel, noted Loretta Lynch's reaction upon learning of these allegations, quote, smelled bad.
00:35:12.320Baker stated, quote, how bothered he personally was when Lynch simply responded.
00:35:26.040This is actually jumping ahead to the twenty eighteen offer Office of Inspector General report into the FBI's investigation of Hillary and the email that report quoted McCabe at length about Loretta Lynch's reaction.
00:35:38.260When she was told, hey, we know what you've been doing and the Russians know it, too, alleging that she that she pressured Comey.
00:35:47.160This is another piece that she also then pressured Comey to drop the Clinton email server investigation.
00:35:51.680And he said, Andrew McCabe, she read the allegations and I will probably never forget.
00:35:57.480She just finished reading them and said.
00:35:59.040OK, I mean, like I expected more of a reaction than that, like I expected, like, this is crazy.
00:36:05.900I never talked to that person, but she was absolutely stone faced and said nothing about the content of the memos, which I don't know how to interpret that.
00:36:14.880So that's her being accused in the latter instance of actually telling Comey, you will drop this investigation now.
00:36:21.240And in the former of telling the Clinton campaign, don't worry, I got this.
00:36:28.340And in both instances, the FBI recoiling at her reaction, which when told we've got you, we know you did this shit with simply thank you or OK.
00:36:46.120It's so infuriating because part of me knows that there's not really going to be accountability for most of the people who deserve it.
00:36:52.640Maybe there'll be like a sort of sacrificial lamb that they give up and plead guilty.
00:36:57.660And but but the magnitude of this scandal and I just want to underscore one more time.
00:37:03.400They did the same thing in 2020, the exact same people when there was very incriminating reporting about Joe Biden weeks before the election that could have jeopardized his chances to beat Donald Trump.
00:37:15.320And the same exact people, the John Brennans, the James Clappers, all of these scumbags who have proven over and over that they're willing to lie, put out that letter saying, oh, this Hunter Biden laptop information should be ignored because it looks like Russian disinformation.
00:37:29.400And then Natasha Bertrand and Politico took that and said it is Russian disinformation.
00:37:34.060And from there, the whole all those stories got discredited and ignored.
00:37:38.660They have been it's not like it's a single scandal they have in their minds.
00:37:42.700And this is, I think, has been the biggest story of the Trump era from my perspective.
00:37:46.140I have a lot of criticism of Donald Trump's policies, as you know, but my biggest criticism of my biggest concern, I think the story of the last eight years has been that they view Donald Trump as such a grave threat
00:37:57.640to all the things that they thought were sacred, you know, way worse than, say, like a Jeb Bush or Mitt Romney who they could live with.
00:38:04.680He wasn't just an ordinary conservative who's coming in to, like, shake up the entire system that they decided.
00:38:09.580And when I mean they, I mean the attorney general, the FBI, the CIA and the mainstream media, especially that there can't be any limits.
00:38:19.720There can't be any other considerations other than the single minded goal of defeating Donald Trump.
00:38:25.320And whatever they have to do to make sure that happens and when he won to destroy his presidency, whether it be lying, whether it be abusing these agencies, whether it be disseminating falsehoods, whether it be inventing scandals,
00:38:36.540whether it be ignoring the orders that he gave to people who are supposed to be his underlings carrying out his democratic will, they would celebrate when his orders got ignored or subverted.
00:38:46.460This was a profound attack on democracy by almost every major leading American institution that abdicated what was supposed to be their principal role in every case for the single minded partisan goal of destroying the Trump movement, even though he had massive popular support.
00:39:03.580This is the threat to democracy over the last decade, and it comes from the very people who have paraded around and gotten very rich depicting themselves as the sole guardians of democracy.
00:39:14.420And that's why I have such indignation over this.
00:39:16.900I'm glad this is being there's more evidence now in the public domain, but it's been clear for a long time.
00:39:23.500I'm glad Tulsi Gabbard gave more fuel to the fire for historians to understand it, for people like you and me to talk about and tell the public how bad it was.
00:39:30.680But so much accountability is due because it corrupted all of our major institutions and still is corrupting these institutions.
00:39:39.020And and on the Hillary point, she got away with murder.
00:39:43.820She lock her up was right and righteous.
00:39:49.140And Trump actually should have gone after her when he took office back in 17 January of 17.
00:39:55.500The only reason it appears that the FBI didn't go after her is because the fix was in and Loretta Lynch was really clear.
00:40:04.280She wasn't going to do that to Hillary and was telling the Hillary campaign, look, you know, we kind of have to do this for window dressing.
00:40:40.120And look, the statute of limitations on the Hillary stuff on that stuff has run, though she, too, testified in the Durham investigation, Glenn.
00:40:50.600And Ratcliffe mentioned her and the date of her testimony with Maria Bartiromo this past Sunday.
00:40:57.780We actually could see Hillary Clinton back in the criminal hot seat, which she totally deserves.
00:41:05.720And and not I mean, at the time she was out of government, technically she was a candidate.
00:41:12.840The people who really were the ones who broke the law most are the head of these agencies, the Loretta Lynch's, the Jim Comey's, the James Clapper's, all of those people, the John Brennan's at CIA, the people in the Obama White House.
00:41:25.320But the and this is what I think is also crucial to note is it wasn't just during the campaign.
00:41:32.000But, you know, there are times in the second Trump term when I do feel like the Trump White House goes a little too far in trying to, like, expunge anybody with the slightest dissent or this most like minimal suspicion of disloyalty to Trump's agenda.
00:41:45.180Because you kind of want some dissent in the executive branch.
00:41:47.660But I totally understand it because the whole first term was driven by the fact that although Trump won and his mandate democratically was overwhelmingly clear, they had all sorts of people in every part of the government who were there for no reason other than to undermine and prevent his agenda from being implemented, that they were working against him even to destroy his presidency hand in hand with the media and these same agencies.
00:42:12.220And so this is that's why that's why I mean, this is not just like one of these isolated scandals where maybe the attorney general covered up criminal wrongdoing because it was a political ally.
00:42:22.840This has been an ongoing attack on American democracy and the will of the voters using the most powerful institutions in our government, working hand in hand with the corporate media to undermine the will of the people.
00:42:34.640They never accepted that Donald Trump won the presidency because most Americans who voted voted for him.
00:42:39.860They never accepted the Democratic outcome.
00:42:42.400They believed their judgment was superior and they were determined to destroy his presidency and make sure he lost, notwithstanding what people wanted.
00:42:50.200And they abused and lied and contrived and fabricated, again, in a way that I thought was extremely clear at the time.
00:42:58.940And maybe there's so much evidence that's going to come out again, Tulsi Gabbard and people like that, that the issue has to be forced.
00:43:06.120And even though the corporate media will cover it up, they don't have anywhere near the stranglehold on the discourse as they previously did.
00:43:13.900And Americans will start to fully understand just how deep this rot went and continues to go.
00:43:20.600Let's talk for a minute about the Clapper Brennan op-ed in the New York Times, because this is the most pathetic fig leaf of a cover.
00:43:28.780And they did it because they knew everyone would take it and run with it, that all they have to do is throw out just a few kibbles of the dog food and all the media lap dogs will eat it, willingly run with it and repeat it, regurgitate it more accurately on every single newspaper and television show.
00:43:46.260So they've decided to, like, kind of the way Obama did, like, just kind of brush it off.
00:43:59.900Tulsi Gabbard and John Ratcliffe have over the past month claimed senior officials in the Obama administration manufactured politicized intelligence, that they silenced intel professionals and engaged in a broad treasonous conspiracy to undermine the presidency of Trump.
00:44:16.000In making those allegations, they seek to rewrite history.
00:44:18.660We want to set the record straight and, in doing so, sound a warning.
00:44:21.820By the way, they never sounded a warning.
00:44:23.680We don't know what the warning is, having read the piece thoroughly.
00:44:26.920They just wanted to say scary things at the top, like, be afraid, be very afraid.
00:44:31.080They then cite the multiple reports that did conclude Russia interfered in the election, including, of course, emphasizing the 2020 Senate Intel report,
00:44:46.960And really, that Senate Intel committee that investigated all of this appears to have just rubber stamped what had been given to them by the intel services,
00:44:54.780that they didn't have subpoena power or their own really investigative, real investigative tools.
00:45:00.540And that, not surprisingly, they rubber stamped what had been handed to them.
00:45:04.240The main thing they seemed to want to prove was that there was no collusion.
00:45:07.780So they said that there was no collusion. But on the, you know, generic allegations that came after that,
00:45:13.040they seem to have just said, OK, yeah, they interfered. Fine. Fine.
00:45:16.420But honestly, that's all falling apart. Whether the Senate found that or not, I don't really care.
00:45:21.860I can see that the intelligence, the underlying intelligence was based on nothing.
00:45:26.180It was based on a feather of intelligence that really wasn't worth anything.
00:45:30.080So they write the most noteworthy was the Senate Intel Committee report, whose Republican members at the time included Marco Rubio,
00:45:38.600now Secretary of State and Senator Tom Cotton, now the committee chairman.
00:45:41.480Then they go on to say that no. And then they make no comment in here, Glenn, on all of the new revelations that that we've seen over the past couple of weeks.
00:45:51.640Like they make no mention of the December 9th, 2016, new Russia interference assessment per the president's request.
00:45:59.380The thing that we found out Obama insisted on after he found out that the intel agencies were about to write.
00:46:05.940Yeah, you know, the Russian interference, it wasn't that dramatic.
00:46:10.300Like they definitely did not hack our voting machines. And that's what you need to know.
00:46:14.480And he put a hold on it and said, hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:46:18.060Then they had an intel meeting with his chief of staff and all the heads of the agencies, the three letter spy agencies.
00:46:24.540And the next thing we knew, the report that was getting filed with Obama was, oh, they interfered.
00:46:29.260They interfered all day long up and down the river. They interfered.
00:46:32.120And then we get the intelligence community assessment in January of 17, which doubles down on all of that based on absolutely nothing based on the Steele dossier.
00:46:41.400And then we find out this week based on three other pieces of so-called evidence, which aren't worth the paper that they are printed on.
00:46:47.160So they made up. It appears that the president's request, the data they needed in order to say Russians interfered.
00:46:54.560But they don't address any of that. The reversal by President Obama, the new intelligence assessment.
00:46:59.260They don't address the September 2016 FBI and NSA assessment of low confidence that it was that Russia who did the DNC hack.
00:47:11.660None of that. They just gloss all over it and want us to believe that this is yet another Tulsi Gabbard hit piece on them.
00:47:19.360I don't know what jumped out at you when you read this.
00:47:21.880To me, it was more the omissions than it was the affirmative statements of fact.
00:47:25.980Well, first of all, I just want to say a word about the Senate Intelligence Committee, the House Intelligence Committee.
00:47:32.000These grew out of the only real investigation that Congress ever did about the abuses of the CIA, which was part of the 19 mid 1970s Church Commission report.
00:47:41.080And one of the reforms was, OK, we're going to have a Senate select intelligence committee that oversees the CIA.
00:47:46.840And in reality, they've completely co-opted it.
00:47:49.160They only put people on there who are loyal to the intelligence communities for years.
00:47:53.200Dianne Feinstein was the ranking Democrat or the chair, and she was a huge admirer of the CIA, did all their bidding.
00:47:59.300The Senate Intelligence Committee is basically an arm of the intelligence community.
00:48:03.160So the fact that they endorsed it, even if it's Marco Rubio, Tom Cotton, whomever, is completely unsurprising.
00:48:09.380But here's the thing that I think is most important, Megan, is what Brennan and Clapper are trying to do is emphasize the claim that Russia interfered in our elections.
00:48:22.080And as I said, I don't doubt that to some extent Russia did, because every single major government, including, I hope it doesn't shock people, the United States, interferes to a far greater extent in the eternal affairs of every country, including in Russian elections.
00:48:38.860So had it just been that, what they're now trying to say, oh, the evidence is clear, Russia had some interference, like a few Facebook pages or Twitter bots.
00:48:46.720No one, this would have never been anything.
00:48:48.440The only reason why it turned into anything was, number one, because they severely exaggerated the extent to which Russia was doing it and claimed that it came directly from Vladimir Putin, who had a strong preference to elect Donald Trump, for which there's basically no evidence.
00:49:04.940And that's where a lot of the manipulation happened.
00:49:07.000But also, number two, this the thing that enraged me about the Brennan Clapper thing was when they said, oh, we collusion wasn't really part of anything we did.
00:49:18.340If it hadn't been for this collusion claim, there never would have been a Mueller investigation.
00:49:22.680There never would have been a political scandal.
00:49:25.500They needed this fake collusion claim because that was the only way to rope in Trump.
00:49:29.980If Russia is interfering, how does that reflect poorly on Trump?
00:49:33.060And it's also is Russia interfering because they know Hillary will win and they want to weaken her and can sow confusion.
00:49:38.520Nobody thought Trump would win, including including Putin.
00:49:41.460So this whole thing is an effort to rewrite history and to pretend all we ever said was Russia interfered.
00:49:47.540And there is some evidence that Russia interfered and everything else that's being said about it is a lie.
00:49:51.480When the entire thing was a political operation to smear Donald Trump, both as collaborating with the Russians to turn the election in his favor and Vladimir Putin, but also to claim that the Russians wanted Trump in office because they knew they could control him through blackmail leverages as set forth in the Steele dossier that never existed.
00:50:11.760The only reason The New York Times printed this was for liberals and media people who wanted to demean and disparage what we're talking about to say, oh, look, and just grab some stuff from Brennan and Clapper, some phrases that they're allowed to use, say they denied it and rely on on their reliability.
00:50:26.820But the whole thing is a complete revision of history about what the claims actually were.
00:50:31.920And they're pretending that all they ever claimed was that Russia did some interference.