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00:00:58.180 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:09.880 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. NPR is trying to explain

00:01:15.100 how they got their story about Justice Samuel Alito retiring so wrong, and it is raising

00:01:21.680 more questions than answers. Wait until you hear their explanation. This whole thing feels like a

00:01:29.820 punk. Like, am I dreaming? Did this really happen? Plus, we've got a lot of thoughts on Serena

00:01:35.100 Williams and her return to Wimbledon. She thinks she's the queen bee. And I'm sorry to break it to 0.99

00:01:42.340 you, Serena. Those days have come and gone. There are new stars on the court. And while you'll

00:01:47.520 always have an important place in tennis. That day has come and gone and you cannot go out there

00:01:54.160 and act like you are still queen of the court because you're not. That's later. First, however,

00:01:59.900 we've been telling you about the far left socialist and let's face it, communist takeover

00:02:04.420 of the Democratic Party, highlighted by three victories of progressive candidates in New York

00:02:08.940 City primaries for House seats. But again, the primaries in New York City, that's basically

00:02:13.400 the final because Republicans can't win there. But they've been taking down members of the

00:02:19.080 Democratic establishment. And now we know it is not just a big city East Coast thing,

00:02:23.620 because last night in Colorado, socialist Malat Kiros defeated 15-term incumbent Diana DeGette

00:02:32.280 in the Democratic primary for a House seat that represents the Denver area.

00:02:38.060 Kiros ran on abolishing ICE, on Medicare for All, on her fervent opposition to U.S. support for Israel,

00:02:45.680 and on a trans bill of rights, which she posted on her campaign website. 0.55

00:02:51.500 I mean, that's kind of par for the course for these Democratic socialists.

00:02:55.720 As we discussed when the 3 won in New York City, the official DSA platform includes defunding the Pentagon,

00:03:04.420 de-incarceration. So I think like all the prisons would be open, not just defunding police, but

00:03:11.620 getting rid of police and also getting rid of the presidency and the U.S. Senate. So

00:03:21.040 I'm not exactly sure how they'll govern if they get their way. Maybe just the House of

00:03:26.120 Representatives is left over because we're not going to have a Pentagon and we're not going to

00:03:29.820 have a Senate. We're not going to have a chief executive or maybe it was. No, sorry. Let me

00:03:35.420 correct myself. It was judges. We're going to get rid of judges. Maybe the Senate can stay

00:03:39.560 tough to remember which body of the Constitution they would like to strike.

00:03:44.140 But good luck with that. It's going to be kind of tough to push through. We on the right,

00:03:48.860 we're talking about possibly a constitutional amendment to change the whole birthright

00:03:52.680 citizenship. And we're reminded that that takes 38 states. I'm not sure we're going to have 38

00:03:57.040 States to abolish whole branches of the government. But this is the crazy that's getting elected now

00:04:05.180 coast to coast. Based on this woman's victory speech last night, she does not appear to be

00:04:11.220 moderating on her views anytime soon. Watch. We will not wait to take the fight to Donald Trump

00:04:19.420 and the oligarchy. We will not wait. We will not wait to abolish ICE and pass Medicare

00:04:28.840 for All. We will not wait to put an end to the politics of the past, to get big money

00:04:39.640 out of our politics and to reject corporate PACs and AIPAC if we organize

00:04:48.700 and show no fear and standing up for what's right that is the message that

00:04:55.060 Denver has sent to both parties to Donald Trump and to the entire country

00:05:06.520 What is that obnoxious horn that's blowing there? She's 29 years old. She reportedly got booted out of her law firm, Sydney and Austin, for writing an opinion piece or signing a letter early on in support of the Palestinian side in the whole conflict shortly after 10-7 and refused to stand down on that. 1.00

00:05:32.200 So she's a hero to people who are Israel critical, but her platform goes so far beyond that.

00:05:38.360 I love the Medicare for all like, oh, it sounds so lovely.

00:05:40.900 So we're going to have socialized medicine is what she wants.

00:05:43.740 How's that worked out elsewhere? 0.95

00:05:45.260 And by the way, who's going to pay for that?

00:05:47.260 Because our country is facing like bankruptcy right now on our debt and we don't have that.

00:05:52.420 So I'm just wondering where she's going to get the money for that because, you know, the billionaires, even if we took all their money, we couldn't afford it.

00:05:58.700 Joining me now to react to this and much more is Matt Taibbi, editor of Racket News on Substack.

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00:07:16.460 Matt, a great day to have you. Thanks so much for coming on. Great to see you.

00:07:19.940 Good to see you, Megan. How are you?

00:07:21.820 So it's all going to be free. Medicare for all. And we're also going to get rid of ICE.

00:07:27.500 So no more policing of illegals. It's basically open borders. They're all for that.

00:07:32.680 They don't like cops. They do like illegals. They want somehow to pay for Medicare for everybody in 1.00

00:07:38.720 the country, socialized medicine. And they're very, very opposed to Israel. And I would submit

00:07:43.640 to you, that last point is going, it's the determining factor. It's not the only factor,

00:07:50.200 but if you had to rank the things that are driving these elections, I would put it number one,

00:07:55.720 because the Democrat Party is just so solidly against Israel right now. But what do you make

00:08:00.540 of it? Well, I think you're right about the last point. American politics in recent years has been

00:08:08.180 a series of litmus tests. And the most recent one on the Democratic side is clearly the Israel 0.89

00:08:15.620 issue. If you haven't taken a stance on it, if you're a supporter of Israel, you're really not

00:08:24.720 electable anymore in the Democratic Party. And this is a major factor in the DSA's success at

00:08:33.480 the primary level, and it spells trouble for the leadership of the party. I mean, we saw what

00:08:39.780 happened in New York after the victories of the three Mamdani-backed candidates. When

00:08:46.220 Hakeem Jeffries flashed on a television screen, everybody was chanting, you are next, you are next.

00:08:52.760 So they're very intent on ousting the traditionalist wing of the Democratic Party.

00:08:59.920 Yeah. So how does that play out if they continue doing that? Right. And they I mean, then the battle eventually becomes between them and Republicans, at least in some general election contests.

00:09:15.580 I mean, so far this is happening only in like very, very deep blue cities and states for, you know, congressional representation in which Republicans are a joke.

00:09:25.220 But I mean, at some point they're going to face them, I guess, in a general election contest if this keeps happening.

00:09:30.980 And either way, even if they get elected right into Congress as the new Democrats, they're going to have to fight the Republicans once they go to Capitol Hill.

00:09:37.700 And it seems to me that right now Republicans are relishing the thought of that.

00:09:41.420 But it could be one of those careful what you wish for situations, Matt, given the way the country's going right now.

00:09:47.300 Yeah. So this is what makes it fascinating.

00:09:49.480 I mean, I'm not embarrassed to admit that not long ago I was fairly supportive of Bernie Sanders.

00:09:58.480 I knew Bernie very well early in my career as a reporter.

00:10:03.200 He had me tag along with him in Congress and showed me how everything in the House worked when he this was way back when he was still in the House.

00:10:11.420 When he ran for president, the prospect of him becoming the nominee was a really interesting thought experiment for the Democrats in 2016, because it's quite possible that he would have done better than Hillary Clinton at the time.

00:10:26.440 The electorate was deeply anti-establishment. Hillary was running as a political insider, which was very unpopular.

00:10:34.220 And the things that Sanders was promoting, there was a lot of popularity to a lot of the things that he was calling for, including like abolishing student debt.

00:10:46.740 Medicare for all is actually popular with a lot of Democrats.

00:10:52.780 The problem with this new crew of DSA candidates, and I know they're technically under the same tent as Bernie Sanders, but they're a very different group of people.

00:11:04.380 And I know this, among other things, you know, I studied at a Soviet college.

00:11:10.740 I'm old enough to have gone to university in the Soviet Union.

00:11:14.720 I'm very familiar with this personality type.

00:11:17.800 I took scientific communism in college.

00:11:21.140 And so I know the difference between the real thing and what Bernie was in 2016, which he was running as a traditional sort of FDR Democrat.

00:11:33.320 He grew up in a poor neighborhood with great reverence for the Democratic Party.

00:11:38.540 He clearly loves his home state of Vermont.

00:11:42.340 That is not the vibe with this crew that uses terms like seize the means of production very freely.

00:11:50.580 And I just don't think we'll see what happens when when they get exposed to the general electorate.

00:11:55.860 I think the people are there's going to be a rebuke there, but it will be interesting to see how the party reacts to that.

00:12:03.020 I mean, so far, the party's reacting like it's developed a cancer and it wants to cut the tumor out very badly of the core organ.

00:12:10.320 The mainstream Democrats seem horrified by the ascendancy of some of these radical leftists, but they're kind of powerless to stop it because they're running normie Democrats against them and they're getting crushed in these deep blue districts.

00:12:27.540 like the Democrat Party seems to want something much more radical. And it tends to be in New York

00:12:34.000 City, at least so far. And now in this Denver election, the white people, it's the rich white

00:12:38.900 people who are voting for them. Like in New York, we saw the blacks and the Hispanics say, no, we

00:12:44.400 don't want that. We kind of like cops, actually. They're in our neighborhoods protecting us. We 1.00

00:12:50.060 like living. We like our kids living. It's the elite white rich people over and over who are

00:12:57.140 drawn to this, Matt. Why? Because they don't know, Megan. I mean, I wrote a book about

00:13:05.340 Eric Garner, the murder of a police murder. And as a result of that, in doing the research,

00:13:13.480 I had to spend roughly two years on the street talking to people in that very spot. Now,

00:13:20.620 one of the things that happened after Eric Garner was killed is that the Staten Island and that

00:13:27.480 precinct elected to permanently station a squad car right on that spot, right next to the park.

00:13:34.900 And the neighborhood, I think, was roughly a 60-40 split in favor of the police being there

00:13:43.140 because there were fewer fights, there were fewer disturbances, there were fewer robberies at the

00:13:48.880 uh of the stores in the in the neighborhood um and that's generally what you'll hear in poor

00:13:56.120 neighborhoods if you talk to people there there is there are people who are very anti-police in

00:14:01.700 the projects but there are also people who are very uh frightened and and see crime as a bigger

00:14:07.340 problem it's only people who live um who go to you know elite universities and live in very rich

00:14:15.240 neighborhoods and don't spend time in those places who who think that police abolition is

00:14:21.840 is this idea that's going to be universally embraced by by the poor or prison abolition for

00:14:28.160 that matter uh that they just have no real life experience and that that is very typical of this

00:14:34.940 type of person it's i mean it's it sounds like a joke that we a modern day america would be

00:14:42.480 electing candidates who say, I want to get rid of all the cops. I want to open all the prisons.

00:14:47.780 I want the, all the illegals to be able to stay. And I want the public dime to pay for all healthcare 1.00

00:14:57.240 for all these people, including the illegals and also all trans so-called care, you know, kids 1.00

00:15:04.980 at the taxpayer. Like that's where we we stop with the similarities on, for example, 0.80

00:15:12.680 the Vladimir Putin approach to socialism. The conservatism that goes hand in hand with what

00:15:19.960 he's offering over there is completely rejected in favor of true leftist radicalism. I'll show

00:15:28.160 you just one. I mean, some of the things we mentioned and Putin would take a firm hand on

00:15:32.160 policing and he's not for illegals populating the streets of Russia or criminals. But look at this

00:15:39.880 picture of this woman who won last night, this Malak Kiros, and the person she was out there

00:15:45.800 campaigning with. This is like, for the listening audience, it looks like a transvestite. It looks 0.92

00:15:51.780 like a drag queen kind of person, a man in a bikini with a huge orange mustache and a huge 0.92

00:15:58.440 orange head of hair, almost lionesque in its presentation. And she's in his armpit 0.99

00:16:04.140 with a big hug. There's actually video of the two of them together. It's a soundbite as she gets

00:16:11.000 welcomed to the Pride stage. This, well, I guess now last month, since it's July 1st, 5B, watch.

00:16:16.940 And that is why today I am personally endorsing for Congress,

00:16:21.440 Melon Kiros, everybody!

00:16:25.180 My name is Melon Kiros.

00:16:27.920 I'm running for Congress to stand up to the billionaires and the corporations

00:16:32.440 burning our planet and profiting from genocide.

00:16:37.160 I'm running because I believe in a world where every single human being,

00:16:41.460 no matter where you're born, no matter what body you're born into,

00:16:45.540 no matter what wealth you're born into,

00:16:47.640 You are deserving of dignity, of unfettered joy, and of pride!

00:16:53.940 Get your ballots in by Tuesday!

00:16:57.160 Make your voice heard!

00:17:01.880 Dignity?

00:17:03.100 I'm not sure that's the word for that scene, Matt.

00:17:06.320 Yeah, I mean, again, these are sort of niche political ideas.

00:17:10.660 I understand people talking about it maybe in a common room of a dorm at Columbia.

00:17:17.640 or cornell or someplace like that or uh but you know the the ordinary person is going to have a

00:17:25.240 tough time swallowing uh so to speak publicly funded uh transitions in places like prisons or

00:17:34.700 even you know to bring up a more serious issue putting uh housing biological males in women's

00:17:42.280 prisons which is something the aclu as well as the dsa favors you know we had that decision by the

00:17:49.580 supreme court yesterday striking down or at least allowing states to bar the participation of

00:17:57.440 biological men and women's sports but there was a you know a while there and these dsa pseudo

00:18:04.840 intellectuals are all for this where it it was basically verboten for people in the media to use

00:18:12.320 the term biological sex or biological male or to mention that or to say that there were two sexes

00:18:18.040 um you know the biologist colin wright was essentially kicked out of academics for saying

00:18:25.540 that there there are two that that sex is binary and this is not popular either right i mean it's

00:18:32.780 It's one thing to advocate for rights for people and to advocate against, say, housing discrimination or, you know, health insurance discrimination, any of those things.

00:18:46.460 But it's very different to demand a complete rejection of, say, science and, you know, physical or biological reality.

00:18:56.100 That's where they are.

00:18:57.020 Did you see we played it yesterday, but Craig Melvin on The Today Show gave like a trigger

00:19:00.700 warning before he read language from the Supreme Court decision referring to biological boys and

00:19:07.060 biological girls. Like, you know, I know this is going to upset you, but it comes from the

00:19:11.360 U.S. Supreme Court. Here's more. This is CNN's chief legal analyst, Laura Coates. Listen to how

00:19:17.420 she referred to the decision and the issues being discussed in it and sought 27. This is a monumental

00:19:22.760 decision not unexpected however given how the oral arguments went here was the crux of the issue

00:19:27.240 it was whether or not somebody who was assigned the male gender at birth would be allowed to play

00:19:34.300 in a traditionally so-called girls sports in a public a high school or of course in the college

00:19:40.280 setting so-called yeah and and assigned male at birth is just factually incorrect um i understand

00:19:51.460 It's movement speak. But media organizations and, you know, I was I was in traditional media during the period when we first started to be policed about the language that we can that we can use.

00:20:06.180 I remember the first time that, you know, it came up in a fact checking meeting that we had to use the term undocumented instead of illegal.

00:20:16.200 And once activists figured out that they could have that kind of leverage over media organizations, they started doing it increasingly often.

00:20:26.440 And what ended up happening was is that a lot of media people just unthinkingly embraced terms without considering what they really mean.

00:20:37.820 Gender-affirming care carries a very, very specific meaning, and it essentially means that you can't embrace the idea that some dysphoric young people, like, you know, say an 11-year-old boy or a girl who feels troubled about their gender identity, that maybe that person might end up being happy about being a boy or a girl.

00:21:07.820 Gender affirming, essentially, care, essentially means that you're going to give them the kind of care that's going to make them transition.

00:21:16.060 And so using that terminology is very, it's political in itself, in addition to being factually questionable. 0.54

00:21:26.220 And it's amazing to watch networks apologizing for using the right words.

00:21:33.460 Yeah, I mean, it's just such a farce, assigned male at birth.

00:21:37.380 assigned male by God. That's more accurate. You'd be better off going there. Let's spend a minute 0.97

00:21:44.980 on what happened yesterday at the high court. First of all, the Nina Totenberg massive face

00:21:52.240 plant is seriously newsworthy. I can't believe what her explanation was. This time yesterday,

00:21:59.800 we were talking about the decision and we did point out that Nina Totenberg, who's the Supreme

00:22:04.740 court reporter a long time for NPR blew it, not the reporting on the two decisions, but right

00:22:11.420 after those decisions, she reported that justice Alito was retiring and she was the only one who

00:22:18.480 had it get getting this. Just so people know, I covered the high court for three years for Fox

00:22:22.320 news. Get being the first with a retirement announcement is huge in Supreme court reporting

00:22:28.880 circles. It's like the mother load that everybody's fighting for. Other than the weird Dobbs leak,

00:22:35.640 you don't get advanced copies of decisions. That's not an area in which one reporter can beat

00:22:43.020 another covering the high court. This is the whole ballgame. You find out a justice is stepping down

00:22:50.560 and you are the first to report it. It's huge. It's the mother load. So she's semi-retired. I

00:22:57.340 guess she is retired, which is what I said yesterday, but she came back for yesterday's

00:23:02.480 big day at the Supreme Court and she was there and she is the one who reported that Justice Alito

00:23:10.360 was retiring. It went up on NPR's website. My team forwarded it to me immediately. I'm like,

00:23:16.300 holy shit. I had heard, and I've reported this on the show before, that he is likely to step down. 0.99

00:23:22.180 I've heard that from people who know. But that's one thing that is totally different from he's a

00:23:30.560 retiring. It's happening. There's been an announcement that is a very, very different

00:23:34.840 kettle of fish. So she she goes with it. We see it on on our team. I reach out to my own sources

00:23:41.780 who say it's not true. And by the time I went back to my team saying my sources saying it's not true,

00:23:46.960 So NPR had taken it down. And when we went off the air yesterday, I was saying to my team,

00:23:53.200 if that's NPR's error, like if they took a Nina Totenberg canned report on Alito's legacy

00:23:59.040 and somebody there had it wrong that he was retiring, then they should publicly come out

00:24:02.960 and say so, so that she's not, she doesn't have egg on her face because she wouldn't deserve that.

00:24:07.380 I'd be mad as the reporter if that happened to me. Wrong. Totally wrong. That's not what

00:24:11.260 happen at all. It was 100 percent Nina Totenberg's fault. And the explanation about how this went

00:24:19.620 down, Matt, is so crazy. What happened? Okay. Okay. You've got to hear it. Is this on tape,

00:24:26.040 you guys? Because she was going to go on. Oh, it is. All right. It's not 26. Let's listen to her

00:24:31.020 explain it on NPR's All Things Considered yesterday. It's entirely on me. It's not

00:24:36.980 anybody else's fault. And I've written to Justice Alito to apologize, and I thought I would read

00:24:42.960 you most of this letter because it tells you everything. Okay. Dear Justice Alito, there are

00:24:47.360 no words to adequately apologize for today's error in reporting your retirement. It was entirely my

00:24:53.320 fault. I rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announcements, and when I realized that

00:24:59.960 the usual rush of folks after a few minutes had not happened, I asked somebody what was going on

00:25:05.860 inside, to which the answer was retirement announcements. I didn't hear the S on announcements

00:25:12.420 and assumed something no reporter should ever do, that you were retiring. It was the worst

00:25:19.560 professional mistake of my more than 50 years in journalism. I could go on, but I don't know

00:25:25.460 what else to say except that I am so, so sorry, and I am eternally, you know, this was a rookie

00:25:32.240 mistake i uh have you heard back from the justice no but i didn't expect to hear back from him it's

00:25:38.080 my mistake that's it's unbelievable that that that is truly incredible and uh the fact that they

00:25:50.920 they put that on on the air and didn't see that that's even more embarrassing than the mistake

00:25:57.560 um yes is is incredible uh how is that helping no exactly i mean being and as you as you pointed

00:26:07.800 out this is uh you know this is the mother of all stories for somebody on that beat

00:26:13.440 and the last thing you want to do is have to go up on uh all things considered and say boy i really

00:26:20.940 you know f that one up um you know that that's a career kind of killing mistake so it has it has

00:26:29.120 to be a situation where somebody concretely tells you that it's happening and you you get to ask

00:26:35.660 wait just to be sure you're you're saying uh that alito is retiring right like you want to double

00:26:43.120 check at least you want to try to check it with you know you're you're playing with the dynamite

00:26:48.360 stick. It's it's lit. The fuse is going. You know, you're playing with it. You like you make

00:26:53.660 quadruple sure before you hit publish that you've got it. You got it. You heard it. Alito

00:27:01.040 announced he's retiring. Is that correct? Any she says it's a rookie mistake. That's an insult to

00:27:07.640 rookies. Rookies know you check it out. Check it out. The story, Matt, is that as she was leaving

00:27:16.940 the Supreme Court, she heard something about retirement announcements. She hurts. No,

00:27:24.060 I rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announced announcements,

00:27:28.840 announcements. And she misheard, she says, an announcement about a retirement.

00:27:35.320 And then she what? She just assumed that it was Alito. She doesn't even argue that she heard

00:27:43.460 an announcement that said alito was retiring nor did she see who was making the announcement

00:27:49.740 nor does she posit that she was in their hearing with her own ears that there was a

00:27:54.420 that this is so bad she's either got dementia or she's making it up yeah or she needs to be

00:28:03.820 fired for malfeasance i like something smells very wrong with the whole story yeah that that

00:28:09.180 story is either not true like it's it's you know somebody else made the mistake and she's falling

00:28:15.220 on a sword or something like that or or it's just uh beyond embarrassing i mean it it really speaks

00:28:22.720 to what's happened in journalism in the last you know 10 15 20 years you know go back and watch

00:28:29.700 all the president's men they were afraid to put out a story that had four sources behind it and

00:28:33.960 they still got it wrong uh in the big disaster scene in that movie you would never ever go

00:28:42.180 to print with one unnamed source where the source doesn't even tell you what you're you're

00:28:49.040 asserting you you can't make uh an assumption about something you overheard uh on npr i mean

00:28:56.580 are you kidding me that that that is that is a truly unbelievable media story megan

00:29:02.060 it's incredible i i rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announced after they were

00:29:09.480 announcing announcements my my transcript of this is weird um okay i asked somebody what's going on

00:29:14.880 inside to which the answer was retirement announcements i asked somebody what was going

00:29:20.780 on inside to which the answer was retirement announcements i didn't hear the s on announcements

00:29:29.700 so she heard what's going on inside retirement announcement and assumed something no reporter

00:29:37.500 should ever do that you were retiring so she her her explanation is that some rando told her

00:29:45.860 she didn't even hear it that there were quote retirement a retirement announcement happening

00:29:52.640 inside and by her own admission no one said to her alito so i mean even if you were in the

00:29:59.100 position that I've been in for the past six months where I do have very good reason to believe that

00:30:03.680 Alito is going to be the next to go. You don't know that. If I heard there's a retirement

00:30:12.500 announcement from the bench, I'd say, which one? Sotomayor's not in good health. Thomas is the

00:30:18.360 oldest. I don't know who it is. Just because I've been told Alito is thinking about going and is

00:30:24.060 probably the next to go doesn't mean it happened today and they just announced it and from that

00:30:29.360 she went to the npr editors and they they hit print on one of the golden cows of reporting

00:30:37.420 they were like we've got it queen nina yeah i mean there are so many things about that that are

00:30:43.500 the that are remarkable first of all how does somebody who you worked in that beat for three

00:30:48.400 years, you said? Yes. You have sources, I'm sure, that could help you confirm or deny a story like

00:30:56.040 that, right? How does this person not have somebody that would pick up the phone if she

00:31:03.180 called to help her confirm or deny that story? How did the editors not instantly reject that story

00:31:10.540 when they they weighed in. The editors said they trust Nina implicitly. She's so holier than thou

00:31:19.620 over there, Matt, that they they just trust Nina now. And they said because she said it was an

00:31:27.820 announcement as opposed to like, I have an inside scoop. I've got a source telling me they didn't

00:31:33.880 use their like emergency backup system of like triple checking all stories before they go on

00:31:38.440 the air because she told them there was an announcement from the bench, like from the

00:31:43.760 court, which is so crazy. 0.63

00:31:46.060 I'm telling you, either Nina Totenberg has dementia or some sort of brain disease that's

00:31:53.100 causing her to behave in a very bizarre way, or this is a lie, or she's so just generally 0.98

00:32:00.160 incompetent, she must be fired.

00:32:02.360 This is absolutely a fireable offense, even for a Nina Totenberg who's been there for 0.99

00:32:07.200 50 years.

00:32:07.700 I'm sorry, but this is totally humiliating for NPR.

00:32:12.260 I was saying yesterday, it's akin to reporting the Pope has died when he hasn't died.

00:32:16.860 You know, like it's that level error and NPR has no satisfactory explanation.

00:32:25.420 Oh, and by the way, Matt, the other piece of this is she she reported the NPR reported his stepping down with its typical bias.

00:32:37.700 right? It's the headline was, hold on, I think I have it here. Here it is. The headline is

00:32:42.920 Justice Samuel Alito, who wrote the opinion overturning Roe v. Wade, retires. What did

00:32:49.140 Nina Totenberg write when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died? Justice RBG, champion of gender equality, 1.00

00:32:56.800 dies at 87. Notice any difference in the tone there? So, I mean, I don't think it was her bias

00:33:03.720 that led her to report that Alito was retiring when he wasn't. But she's got a history of not

00:33:09.620 calling it straight. And by the way, she's made errors, too. She's the one who reported that

00:33:13.940 Justice Gorsuch had refused to put on a mask when the chief justice asked him to around the COVID

00:33:19.960 time and that Sonia Sotomayor was so offended she didn't participate in oral arguments in person

00:33:26.140 that she did it remotely. And she was wrong. She was 100 percent wrong. She was so wrong that both

00:33:31.240 justices, Gorsuch and and Sotomayor, issued a rare joint refutation of Nina's reporting.

00:33:40.480 She's had other things that she's just gotten egregiously wrong. This woman's been getting a 0.99

00:33:43.440 pass for far too long. She's passed. She's passed her her journalism prime, as these mistakes are 1.00

00:33:49.160 proving. I mean, it's really incredible. And I mean, I think you you could speak to this, too.

00:33:55.840 it wasn't that long ago where the the the guiding principle of pretty much everybody who had any

00:34:04.360 kind of reporting beat in in media was to avoid the big face plant uh when you did a story the

00:34:11.540 your main motivation was to not screw it up uh that was the first second and third things that

00:34:17.620 you worried about uh was you know what will happen if i get this wrong uh this could end my career

00:34:24.640 this could you know lead to a lawsuit it could all kinds of problems could happen now it's become

00:34:30.960 incredibly common for newspapers to make mistakes and either not own up to it at all not issue a

00:34:38.460 correction not issue an explanation um or simply uh give an explanation make a correction and have

00:34:47.980 there be no consequences for for it whatsoever uh people make make mistakes and nothing happens

00:34:54.000 now which is um sort of an extraordinary thing think of all the people in the wmd episode who

00:35:00.360 got uh things wrong and were promoted as a result of it and this is this is how that happens

00:35:08.760 i just can't stress enough how you understand that is plutonium you're handling if you get

00:35:16.940 news like that as a Supreme Court reporter. Like, holy shit, there's only nine of them. 0.99

00:35:21.560 The retirements are spaced out by years. It's a huge deal when there's a vacancy on the high 0.98

00:35:27.000 court. If you get a scoop like that, it has to be handled so carefully, so professionally,

00:35:32.820 so responsibly. And you would never go to air with it unless you had it cold. I mean,

00:35:39.040 I would not go to air with that unless I heard it directly from the justice or the justice's

00:35:43.620 spouse. That's it. That is the only two people who could make me do it. Not even another justice

00:35:49.860 could convince me to do it. And so for her to say, I misheard from the bench that there was

00:35:58.260 a retirement announcement, period, not even about a justice, nevermind this justice. And

00:36:05.580 it was she it's just insane i can't get past it so enter of it i'm sorry the the the speed is

00:36:12.980 fascinating like that's a huge story it would take more than you know a little bit uh for to

00:36:20.220 to get that on air in a normal situation you'd have to double triple check it the editors would

00:36:25.880 demand certain steps uh be taken uh but it sounds like uh you know they managed to she went from

00:36:33.460 hearing that or allegedly hearing that to going on air with it relatively quickly.

00:36:40.440 Yes, her explanation yesterday was that she then spoke with her intern who was at the court with

00:36:48.120 her and NPR executive editor Krishnadev Kalamer and told them what she had heard. Kalamer surfaced

00:36:56.340 the story that NPR had previously prepared for the day Alito did announce his retirement and

00:37:00.840 publish it it's not unusual to have one in the can for all nine justices like god forbid they die

00:37:05.840 or they retire so like the background had already been written that's normal but nobody questioned

00:37:10.540 her and the the producer here that the calimer i guess it was the editor talked about he said

00:37:17.720 she's the preeminent supreme court reporter in the courtroom so i'm assuming that's what she heard

00:37:24.420 she's in the room uh so he it was complete deference to her blind deference which is very

00:37:32.540 dangerous as they just learned the hard way let me tell you what paul farhi is saying he

00:37:39.100 wrote for a long time for the washington post and was like their chief media uh reporter slash

00:37:44.880 critic and i when i saw this explanation yesterday i mean my jaw dropped and i tweeted out or posted

00:37:52.740 on x omg npr posted an article by nina totenberg reporting that alito's retirement retiring and 0.56

00:37:59.540 then within minutes retracted escotis denied total shit show that was actually before i'd

00:38:03.200 seen the explanation he responds so npr made a mistake recognized its mistake and corrected it 0.57

00:38:10.420 within minutes what would you have them do other than not making a mistake that

00:38:16.760 i i i that that is a literally unbelievable thing for uh you know for an experienced media reporter

00:38:29.240 which paul farhi is i mean um i was briefly away at uh from rolling stone when they made

00:38:36.440 the error that nearly destroyed the entire organization you know the uva rape story uh

00:38:44.580 You know, some of my favorite people were caught up in that disaster.

00:38:50.920 People, you know, I'd known for years and it was universally accepted in the media business that it was, you know, it was a mistake to just simply trust the reporter, you know, absent some kind of verification.

00:39:06.760 And, you know, it was considered a kind of a warning tale or a cautionary tale for editors that, you know, this is what can happen if you place too much stock in what your reporters tell you.

00:39:23.460 You've got to get some kind of confirmation that satisfies you.

00:39:27.480 so you know here you have a complete systemic breakdown and you know the washington post

00:39:34.980 media reporter isn't interested in that and and what the process that npr like that's that's

00:39:40.980 incredible it also speaks to what must go on at the washington post too yeah and you know it's

00:39:47.720 quick to defend it like oh what would you have them do like like it's just another like it's a

00:39:51.380 error they made on some math claim. Now, this is this is a massive journalistic fail. Don't pretend

00:39:58.480 like you don't know that you fully know that. Pull off Paul Farhi. And here's Peter Baker,

00:40:03.780 the New York Times White House reporter. No one's more mortified by a mistake than a journalist

00:40:09.720 committed to factual reporting. The best own up to it, correct it and apologize for it,

00:40:14.060 as Nina Totenberg has done. It's worth remembering a long career dedicated to getting it right.

00:40:18.900 OK, look, this is not her first screw up. There have been others by Nina Totenberg, always overlooked by her fans because she's an open liberal reporting with a liberal bent with all the right nasty takes on the conservative justices and the beneficial ones for the libs.

00:40:39.040 So Peter Baker rushes to her defense. But I guarantee you, if I went back and worked at Fox News next year covering the high court and made such a mistake about a leftist jurist retiring when it wasn't true, Peter Baker would not be out there saying, oh, she did the honorable thing.

00:40:56.660 that's not and that kind of a statement would make a textbook out of you making if you did that

00:41:02.560 totally right and and also like they're they're treating her quote mistake as if it's like she

00:41:09.320 got burned by a source it happens like this was such an epic failure she she didn't have it

00:41:15.720 no one told her that it she made it up we're ignoring the fact that at no point did nina

00:41:21.440 Totenberg here. Justice Alito is retiring. She made it up and put it out on NPR, went out to

00:41:30.100 all their radio stations. It stood for much longer in the in the ether than it did on their pages

00:41:35.340 because they retracted it on their website. But it had already been broadcast because they were

00:41:39.500 doing live coverage of the Supreme Court. So it got blasted out across the country. I'm sure

00:41:46.180 there are people today who are still confused and think Justice Alito is retiring. And it's very

00:41:50.000 telling Matt that at least when she was asked yesterday whether he had responded to her little

00:41:54.380 apology, the answer was no, he he did not let her off the hook. He's probably pissed off. There are

00:42:00.380 some who are even speculating maybe this whole thing was a trap. Like maybe he had somebody tell

00:42:03.980 her or tell a leaker to tell her like maybe some effort to find the Supreme Court leaker. I don't

00:42:10.500 know what the game would be, but I'm sure he's not happy. Yeah. And he's he would be right to be

00:42:18.120 upset if that's what the process is. I mean, you mentioned being burned by sources. That does

00:42:27.060 happen. And that was the first thing I thought of when she was giving that excuse, is that what

00:42:32.580 actually happened was that somebody she knows and who's been a good source for her, you know,

00:42:40.520 blew her up. And she's covering for that person by giving the story that's so unbelievable

00:42:46.320 and embarrassing to her personally that there won't be anybody asking about a source who got

00:42:54.480 something wrong. But I just don't think that's possible. If you were going to come up with

00:43:00.380 another story about how it was your fault, you would come up with something different than this,

00:43:07.620 wouldn't you? I mean, this is just not an adequate explanation.

00:43:11.960 I'd like to think so.

00:43:13.260 Yeah, that's incredible.

00:43:14.840 No, I don't. There's got to be more. There's got to be another shoe to drop here because it's it's I understand she's their gal for 50 years. I understand she thinks she's the queen bee of the high court. I don't think that. But she thinks that even for that level reporter. This is the end. This should be the end of Nina Totenberg's career. It should. I'm sorry she has to go out on this note, but she does.

00:43:41.340 the only reason you know it won't happen is because she's a leftist at a leftist new

00:43:47.160 news organization and all these other leftists like paul farhi and peter baker are very quick

00:43:51.920 to run cover for her you know so they she's she's not getting any of the flack that you would get

00:43:58.500 or that i would get or that anybody at fox news would get if they had done such a thing it's just

00:44:03.440 just such an egregious egregious story yeah okay i want to keep going so back to malat kiros okay 0.92

00:44:11.680 and these democrat socialists because i do i do want to point something out this woman is railing 0.88

00:44:17.140 about among other things ice she hates ice oh they all all these dsa types want to get rid of ice 0.99

00:44:22.900 and let me give you a a little a little sampling of that because she sat down with hassan piker 0.99

00:44:29.560 and give an interview not long ago, SOP 4? 0.94

00:44:32.260 Abolishing ICE is just one step, right?

00:44:34.340 I think there has to be an immediate pathway

00:44:36.740 for every single undocumented immigrant 1.00

00:44:38.600 that's here in this country today 0.99

00:44:39.820 that does not require them to shell out

00:44:41.980 thousands of dollars to go through their process

00:44:44.300 for it to take decades at a time

00:44:46.520 to be able to get to citizenship.

00:44:48.480 An immediate pathway to citizenship.

00:44:51.360 Immediate pathway to citizenship.

00:44:53.440 No deportations, no ICE.

00:44:54.920 Immediate pathway to citizenship. 0.99

00:44:56.660 So amnesty for all illegals.

00:44:58.360 at the same time this woman was winning yesterday the mother of sheridan gorman the 18 year old

00:45:06.780 college student who was killed in chicago on a pier minding her own business with her friends

00:45:11.980 a couple of months ago shot by an illegal in in the back of the neck as she ran away from him

00:45:18.560 at like 1 30 in the morning sheridan's mom testified before congress appeared to testify

00:45:24.500 right before Congress. And this is unbelievable, Matt. Representative Pramaya Jayapal sat down in

00:45:32.860 front of these angel families because it wasn't just Sheridan's mom. There were some other family

00:45:38.080 members. Said the following to these grieving parents. Another guy had just lost his daughter

00:45:44.400 at age 20. Sheridan was 18 and was just killed a couple of months ago. Listen to this Jayapal

00:45:50.300 I'll speak to them.

00:45:51.000 She's a Washington State representative. 0.98

00:45:53.500 Sop 23.

00:45:54.540 Let me start by offering my deepest condolences to you, Mrs. Gorman, and to you, Mr. Abraham,

00:46:00.100 for the loss of your children.

00:46:01.500 As a parent myself, I can think of no greater loss, and I appreciate you being here to share

00:46:08.860 their stories and their lives with us.

00:46:12.500 Unfortunately, this hearing is the fourth time in this committee that we've had a hearing

00:46:19.520 on sanctuary cities, the fourth time. And there's many other things that we could be doing other

00:46:25.980 than this. I would have loved to have had some hearings on the unconstitutionality of the

00:46:31.620 president's executive order on eliminating birthright citizenship. She said that to a 0.84

00:46:39.160 grieving mom and a grieving dad. And then Jamie Raskin comes in to listen to him. Sat 24.

00:46:45.700 As a father, I, too, know the pain and devastation of losing a child.

00:46:50.580 And my heart goes out to you and to your families.

00:46:53.320 Our colleagues are conducting an endless series of hearings on sanctuary cities.

00:46:58.300 This is our fourth such hearing.

00:47:01.200 Again, raising, you know, it's a fourth hearing.

00:47:04.260 This is a lot on this issue.

00:47:06.320 Mrs. Gorman.

00:47:07.740 And then Jessica, Sheridan's mom, had the chance to respond and made clear in her comments,

00:47:14.620 which she clearly ad-libbed this part she wasn't she didn't know what they were going to say

00:47:18.580 she heard what they said and knew exactly what they were what they were doing listen to her

00:47:24.420 the story is about my sheridan it's about how failed border policies sanctuary city laws and

00:47:30.920 twisted leaders refused to cooperate with ice they sent her to her grave and the question before this

00:47:37.080 committee is painfully simple when did protecting our american citizens stop being your first

00:47:42.860 priority. And even more important, why did protecting our American citizens stop being

00:47:47.800 your first priority? I want an explanation. I need one. And I deserve one. And I honestly

00:47:54.320 can't make sense of it. I cannot make peace with it. And in what world does the child

00:47:59.500 who spent her life making sure no one was lonely die terrified and alone on a pier in

00:48:05.020 Chicago? In what world does the girl who saw everyone become invisible to the people in

00:48:11.260 power responsible for protecting her. This cannot be explained away, and it cannot be buried beneath

00:48:16.820 a list of unrelated issues that you all paraded before us. Thanks for telling me without telling

00:48:22.200 me that, you know, you're here, but you don't want to be. This is the fourth, this is the fourth

00:48:27.680 time you had angel families. Thanks for telling me you don't care. She will always be my sweet

00:48:33.160 sunshine, and if the people who failed her would rather look away, then I'm really, then I'm asking

00:48:39.480 the rest of you to look right at her. Here she is. There's she and I. Here she is. This

00:48:43.640 is the take in the day before she died. Say her name, tell her story, and demand better

00:48:50.240 because my Sharon Grace Gorman should still be alive and no mother should have to stand

00:48:56.040 where I am standing, begging, begging elected leaders to value my child's life after it's

00:49:05.240 already too late I wake up in the middle of the night and I think did my daughter cry for me she

00:49:11.160 she made it 40 feet she made it 40 feet running for her life did she cry out for me she died on

00:49:19.320 that pavement by her all by herself lonely looking bleeding on that pavement and I will and I will

00:49:25.860 never ever rest I don't understand why it's only the Republican side that cares about our American

00:49:31.840 children and i know that you're a mother i know that you're a father i i deeply value that but

00:49:36.920 basically what you just did what you said was i'm so sorry for your loss i have a daughter too i

00:49:42.780 have a son i i feel your pain you don't you don't feel my pain because the next words out of your

00:49:47.660 mouth were but there's no but when your child is in the coffin incredibly powerful and how

00:49:56.880 inappropriate of these Democrats, Matt? Yeah, I mean, this is one of the mysteries to me of

00:50:04.720 what's happened to the Democratic Party in the last 20 years is there seems that they seem to

00:50:12.860 have lost a sense of how they sound to ordinary people. They they have decided that certain

00:50:22.800 messaging imperatives are more important than seeming human uh at times um i don't in any way

00:50:30.340 want to compare my situation to what happened uh to ms gorman but um when i testified before congress

00:50:36.820 um the the behavior of the democrats was so unbelievably disrespectful uh that they

00:50:46.200 they gave an enormous boost to people who were against internet censorship just by being

00:50:53.720 unattractive characters on camera and it it's so strange for a politician not to be conscious

00:51:02.860 of of how uh obnoxious it sounds when you don't do the obvious thing which is just to sit there

00:51:11.080 and listen. If you have objection to the policy, you can make it later. But don't be disrespectful

00:51:17.920 to somebody who is grieving and emotional. How is that ever going to help you politically? I just

00:51:24.340 don't understand that kind of behavior. And good for Jessica for calling them out on it. She made 1.00

00:51:32.020 that a very powerful moment that is tough to forget. Matt, it's great to see you. Thank you

00:51:38.420 so much for coming on. Come on again soon, would you? Thanks so much, Megan. Take care.

00:51:42.840 You too. More ahead with first-time guest Rob Finnerty, and I will show you why I love this

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00:53:20.500 All right, full-time thoughts. Craig, who stood out? Brazil's lime cheesecake started bright,

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00:53:48.280 check out Footy Prime Daily. Joining me now for the first time is Rob Finnerty. Rob is a long-time

00:53:57.600 journalist and TV host. He's currently the host of Finnerty at 8 p.m. Eastern each weeknight on

00:54:03.740 Newsmax. Now, before I bring him on, I want to show you how Rob first came to my attention. I

00:54:08.280 mean, I heard of him prior to this, but this is when I knew I was in love, that I had found

00:54:11.900 a compadre out there in the ether with whom I shared an affinity for mocking people

00:54:18.320 and other things. Watch this clip. We played it on this show when it happened. Watch this.

00:54:25.280 On another note tonight, the New York City mayoral debate last night, but I'm less interested in what the candidates actually said.

00:54:31.820 And I'm more interested in why we keep doing this.

00:54:35.460 Government affairs reporter Melissa Russo, senior politics editor at Politico Sally Goldenberg and Telemundo 47 anchor Rosarena Breton.

00:54:43.580 This is a two hour debate.

00:54:45.900 All right. So we have talked about this and I don't just I just don't get why we do this, who started it, when this started.

00:54:52.320 but whenever it is a Spanish name, we are all suddenly required and expected to shapeshift

00:54:57.560 into the perfect Spanish accent. Normal, everyday news people do it all the time.

00:55:03.340 They forget years of training. They forget their non-regional diction.

00:55:06.600 That Telemundo anchors, by the way, Rosarina Brenton. Just say Rosarina Brenton.

00:55:11.220 But for whatever reason, we all feel the need to pronounce it like we're living in Mexico,

00:55:14.580 like we're living in a country where Spanish is the native tongue. That's not the case here in

00:55:18.640 the U.S. He said it. I couldn't understand what he was saying. As I've said before, I am Irish.

00:55:26.740 And if I was moderating that debate with the host to introduce me as Robert James Finnerty,

00:55:32.180 don't you know the little lad that he is, Robert James Finnerty. If the host was Chinese, 0.92

00:55:39.120 would they then introduce that person with a Chinese accent? I don't think so. So stop doing 0.95

00:55:44.740 it when they're Spanish. Just stop it. Also, we don't need to say all three names when they are 1.00

00:55:50.220 Spanish. No one describes me as Robert James Finnerty. I'm just Rob Finnerty. We don't need

00:55:55.100 to say Kilmar Abregu Garcia. It's just Kilmar Garcia. I don't know who started this, but

00:56:00.860 enough's enough. Stop. Just stop. I love you, Rob. Thanks so much for coming on. I am your

00:56:10.860 ardent fan you are hilarious thank you megan uh that you know my producer in my ear actually had

00:56:19.100 to say to me don't say anything in a chinese accent right in that moment because you've been

00:56:24.380 there you've been there live tv i thought about it i considered it and i if you watch it again

00:56:29.440 yeah there's a little spot i didn't do it so that's probably a good thing i did what i was

00:56:35.040 like oh he's thinking about it thinking about it i thought you get canceled for that like shane

00:56:39.520 Gillis. You're not allowed. I guess you can do the Irish accent. You can do the Latino accent,

00:56:43.240 but you can't do the Chinese accent. It's one of the unwritten rules. 1.00

00:56:46.800 We're not there yet. Maybe one day. And I'm tempted to do it now, but I'm not going to.

00:56:52.080 I so agree with you. I had made these points to my team in the past, you know, like, look at it.

00:56:57.080 I definitely mocked the Telemundo anchor, but never so effectively. You did it so well. Are

00:57:02.760 you good with accents? Have you have you historically been good with the accents?

00:57:06.000 um oh uh i did i did do a little bit of theater when i was younger um and i never thought this

00:57:14.500 would i mean i would go from like hockey practice to rehearsal when i was in high school which is

00:57:20.200 a little different i guess i didn't think i'd be talking about that today but i'm fine with it

00:57:23.740 um that it's helped me my mom would say oh it's building character and i'd be like mom when do i

00:57:29.620 get to use said character uh i guess in that moment and sure enough look at you now using

00:57:35.160 out on the airwaves to make us all happy as we watch things like the telemundo debate yes um

00:57:40.340 it was ridiculous that that was the new york debate uh right that was the um what debate what

00:57:45.220 it was the who is debating it was the new york mayor uh candidates right it was zora mamdani

00:57:50.600 back during those days because curtis lee was out there but we were mocking remember fox

00:57:56.180 partnered with i think it was telemundo again on their presidential debate and there was that

00:58:01.740 one third anchor with Martha and Brett, who is from Telemundo. And of course, everything she

00:58:08.060 said, Ann Coulter later joke that you needed captions to understand what she was saying.

00:58:12.320 But we had to do the triple name is like, it's a lot, you know, Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Why are

00:58:18.480 we affording him all the respect? I understand how Spanish names marry the mothers and the 0.64

00:58:22.780 fathers, but it's like, we're in America. You pick your top two. That's all you get.

00:58:27.500 no especially when it's Kilmar Obrego Garcia who shouldn't even be in this country like why are we

00:58:32.960 honoring this man like bestowing all three names on him it would be like if I called you Megan

00:58:37.800 middle name Kelly Esquire we just we don't do that but whenever it's a Spanish or Hispanic name

00:58:44.080 for whatever reason like I said we feel the need to like shape shift and and bestow all this title

00:58:50.100 on people but if it's an Irish name like me like Robert Finnerty or Megan Kelly don't you know

00:58:55.680 we never do that we don't do it we don't do it when it's somebody who's chinese or japanese or

00:59:00.100 whatever it's just it's like this it's a weird thing the left started doing and everybody in

00:59:05.280 the media especially local news and i can say this because i was in the local news for a long time

00:59:09.600 they all do it and they all like pride themselves on it they're all like you see what i did during

00:59:14.260 the commercial break and you're like yeah why did you do that you know it's a pander it's a blatant

00:59:19.420 pander we've been seeing a lot of it lately i was just talking about taibi about about how craig

00:59:23.680 Melvin gave a little like trigger warning before he used the term biological boy and girl before

00:59:31.500 reading the Supreme Court opinion yesterday, basically chastising the U.S. Supreme Court

00:59:36.280 for using sex based descriptions of gender. It's like they've lost their way that he wasn't the

00:59:44.080 only one. There was more that went down yesterday on the Supreme Court and the way that they were

00:59:47.860 talking about it. Here, listen to NBC's Kelly O'Donnell, who's upset about President Trump

00:59:54.800 in the wake of the Supreme Court opinion on girls sports and keeping boys out of them. Stop 28. 0.99

00:59:59.960 So for the president, this will clearly be a case that he will cite as a victory. He has

01:00:05.160 talked about it as a cultural issue. It's been a big part of his discussion on the campaign trail.

01:00:10.160 He often sort of boils it down into bumper sticker language, talking about transgender

01:00:16.500 athletes and that that's universally bad. That's his interpretation of it. It's obviously much

01:00:21.580 more complex. It's an area of American life where there are very deeply personal issues,

01:00:27.080 especially when it's involving minors, religious implication, all kinds of things that make those

01:00:31.920 cultural issues such hot buttons when it comes to how they interface with politics and with

01:00:38.460 moments like this. It's a shame on President Trump for boiling it down into bumper sticker

01:00:44.720 language rob and it was all her opinion and and the craig melvin i don't know if you think craig

01:00:50.660 melvin when i saw that to me that read as an ad lib or something he decided he was going to do

01:00:56.500 right before the segment um when he said you know biological male biological woman and we're just

01:01:01.460 going to use this this language and be aware this is the language that's in the opinion and in the

01:01:06.240 decision um i think he made that decision in the moment and kelly o'donnell i can remember she's

01:01:10.840 been there a long time i used to have a lot of respect for her she i don't ever think my grandmother

01:01:17.300 would say i want the news to be the way it used to be and that's right down the middle and i would

01:01:22.140 say mama walter cronkite used to sail with the kennedys all right it's never been right down

01:01:26.480 the middle um and kelly o'donnell is one of these she's one of these reporters that's been around

01:01:31.040 since the world was flat and i used to have a lot of respect for her um but over the last really in

01:01:36.260 the last 10 years since donald trump it's become clear that every report that she does and i mean

01:01:41.680 every is now just her opinion about whatever she's talking about yes there's more from her

01:01:48.960 wait listen to sat 29 and while laura talks about the broadness of this it is also uh notable that

01:01:56.660 it is narrow in the sense of the numbers of transgender athletes who are seeking to compete

01:02:01.940 that that is a very small pool in many ways. Honestly, we've heard this from all these leftist

01:02:08.120 reporters yesterday, Rob. It's just like just a handful of trainees out there who are trying to

01:02:12.240 steal girls medals. Stop worrying about this so much. Meanwhile, I read yesterday from an article

01:02:17.420 in Out Sports, which is all about LGBTQ people in sports, saying they think they have no way of

01:02:24.160 knowing, but there are tons of athletes who haven't actually come out who are trans at the college

01:02:28.940 level and they put it at tens of thousands in the high school level. So like it's just not true.

01:02:35.520 It's not true. They went off some some NCAA official saying there's only 10 out trans people

01:02:41.180 in the college level that we know about. That's not true either. But that's what all these leftists

01:02:45.140 pin their hopes on to diminish the fairness rights of girls nationwide. And that's totally 1.00

01:02:50.380 disingenuous. And it's a lie. Think about Leah Thomas at UPenn in Ivy League school. She won

01:02:56.320 a national championship. Sorry, he won a national championship in swimming at Penn. So even if it

01:03:01.540 was just one, this person won a national championship. I had Peyton McNabb on the show

01:03:06.700 last night in high school. She was a volleyball player. Lovely young woman in 2022. Some guy 1.00

01:03:12.980 who was like six foot three, dressed up as a girl playing volleyball, spiked a ball right into her 1.00

01:03:18.480 face. She was unconscious for more than a minute, had to go to the hospital, suffered a traumatic

01:03:22.280 brain injury she was in the hospital for more than a few days she's thankfully fully recovered

01:03:27.760 but even if it is just it's the same thing with the illegal alien argument oh you know Sheridan

01:03:32.260 Gorman well that's just you know that's a one-off that's just an isolated incident first of all no

01:03:36.580 it's not but when it comes to men playing in women's sports even if it were just a few which

01:03:41.900 of course it is not that's no excuse that doesn't make it any better Leah Thomas took that national 0.50

01:03:47.760 championship that division one national championship away from a real biological woman

01:03:52.820 yes 100 right and yeah we love peyton mcnab she's she's one of the reasons we got the decision we 0.98

01:03:58.840 did yesterday she stood up and she said no none of this bullshit stop stop stop um okay thankfully 0.83

01:04:04.980 today is july 1st and i think we're all heaving a sigh of relief because pride month is officially 0.97

01:04:10.200 over and no no one no one wanted any more pride month no sane person wanted any more pride month 0.88

01:04:16.500 Because because of displays like this one here is this is from New York City from the Dyke March. 0.60

01:04:24.320 You may have missed it, but it happened last week. 0.62

01:04:27.520 top 30.

01:04:53.420 James Calrico would be proud.

01:04:55.180 They're wonderful.

01:04:57.520 James Delarico. Yes. Wonderful. The streets of New York. That was just one example. There's

01:05:04.480 plenty more. This one is, let's see. Oh yeah. This is Washington Square Park. This was disgusting.

01:05:12.380 We saw this all over New York where the new thing is to climb trees or poles and then twerk

01:05:19.680 in the most X-rated way possible. Here's SOT 31. And this is also from, this happened just over

01:05:27.440 of the weekend. I think it was Sunday.

01:05:32.440 And the lamppost.

01:05:51.840 I bought a lamppost! 0.73

01:05:55.160 They're throwing bottles of cops. 1.00

01:05:57.440 yeah so it's it's going really well the pride celebrations were exactly what we anticipated

01:06:08.480 they would be so megan two observations from pride 2026 and i'm i'm so happy that it's it's

01:06:14.120 july 1st now but this first of all it's getting worse and more perverted and more sadistic every

01:06:19.880 single year uh when gay marriage became legal i think it was 2015 barack obama pride was like 0.96

01:06:27.100 I can remember my local news station. They wouldn't let us get political at that time,

01:06:30.520 but we were required to be a part of the pride celebration in Tampa, Florida. And all the anchors

01:06:36.480 had to be on the pride float. I remember I asked my former CNN producer, now news director,

01:06:41.840 how this is not political. And she said, it's just pride. You're celebrating people coming

01:06:46.200 out of the closet. And I said, well, yeah, you know, I don't want to lose my job. But I was

01:06:49.340 like, you're celebrating what people do. You're celebrating what people choose to do behind closed

01:06:53.540 doors what they choose to do in the bedroom and nobody celebrates what i do in the bedroom i wish

01:06:58.200 they would have a parade for it they never will okay but but for whatever reason we are all required

01:07:04.080 to honor and celebrate what these people do and and if you look at pride parades in in 2013 14 15

01:07:10.840 they were they were a lot calmer um i lived in boston and i saw one and i was younger and i

01:07:17.280 remember it was santa claus whipping reindeer and the reindeer were men and i remember that

01:07:20.520 was the first inkling i had that hey wait a second maybe this is more than just like i had the

01:07:24.240 courage to come out of the closet to my parents um but then the other part of this is the violence

01:07:29.340 this year we saw that the media won't cover it they do what they always do and that's cover it

01:07:33.660 up but these are all very violent by and large and in seattle this past weekend pride went out

01:07:40.100 with a bang there people got arrested uh independent journalists that were covering it

01:07:44.300 got attacked and then the people that did it who were also pride slash antifa they were arrested

01:07:49.880 So these are also very, very violent events by and large.

01:07:54.300 It's like you're right, because there seems to be like an increase, like the hockey stick in perversion and criminal behavior at these events.

01:08:03.640 And like the country's not in the mood for it.

01:08:06.300 Notwithstanding what we saw in Minneapolis, we covered this yesterday morning on our AM Update podcast, which is just news headlines in Minneapolis. 0.98

01:08:13.820 they're bringing back public bath houses for sex romps amongst gay people. Like that's the open 0.91

01:08:22.340 goal of it. And they think if you have a judgment on it, you're a homophobe. You're a bigot.

01:08:29.980 I don't understand why gay men can't have sex in their own houses and apartments like everybody 1.00

01:08:36.300 else. Why does it have to happen at a public bath house? These things used to be prevalent. 1.00

01:08:41.520 They were banned in the 80s amidst the AIDS crisis.

01:08:44.700 And here is a local lawmaker in Minneapolis trying to justify why you and I and all the

01:08:51.800 other citizens should be in favor of this.

01:08:54.180 Listen to this.

01:08:55.340 I think it's important to address this, the weaponization of hyper sexualization of our

01:09:01.320 queer communities as a means to also bring forward repressive policies that limits their

01:09:07.180 existence and their ability to be in community with each other.

01:09:10.400 The idea that this policy has been repeatedly framed as facilitation of brothel or sexual activity as if folks just want to go out and have sex, which, you know what?

01:09:21.580 Maybe that might help actually bring more joy into our city.

01:09:27.760 But to say that this policy is essentially the facilitation of legalizing brothels is not what's happening.

01:09:36.700 Well, Robin Walmsley.

01:09:39.240 Go ahead.

01:09:39.520 Yeah, it's actually exactly what's happening. It's it's in community. Look, I have no problem with people having, you know, having sex with each other, as long as it's consensual. That's, that's, that's a wonderful thing. I agree with the last part. Terrific. Fine. But when she when she all right, all right, I'm pro. But when she says in community with one another, she's referring to gay sex. And you're exactly right. It was in the mid 1980s in New York, Ed Koch, the mayor, then who was a gay man, closed these in New York City, because so

01:10:09.460 many people were getting AIDS and we didn't have a cure for AIDS. We don't have a cure for AIDS

01:10:13.800 today. You can live with it and you can test negative for it and you don't necessarily pass

01:10:18.160 it on to your partner. And that's a wonderful thing. But like this is still a very serious

01:10:21.920 disease. And part of the reason these closed in the 1980s in cities across the country

01:10:27.420 is because there was no way. Think about a restaurant, for example, if the Board of Health

01:10:32.360 wants to go in and find you, they can go in and say, hey, look, you put the buffalo tenders in

01:10:36.240 the same fryer as the fish you can't do that and you get a fine or they look at your bathrooms and

01:10:40.740 they look at the kitchen cleanliness and that sort of thing there was no real way to do this so there

01:10:45.320 was a ton of corruption and a ton of illegality and a lot of these there they were trafficking 0.98

01:10:50.300 minors in these brothels for gay sex and that's just a fact it makes people uncomfortable in the 0.90

01:10:57.000 city of minneapolis but that is just a fact and i'm just wondering if like somebody is seriously 0.98

01:11:01.780 going to apply for a license to like reopen one of these in downtown Minneapolis. Yes, it's

01:11:09.260 happening. By the way, Brian Cole Coyle was one of the councilmen who voted to close these clubs

01:11:17.860 in Minneapolis, like did not think that the bathhouse was a good idea. He was gay and he 0.98

01:11:24.080 would later die of AIDS. He recognized this is not a good idea. We should not be encouraging 0.83

01:11:28.660 this kind of behavior amongst strangers in a bathhouse in public in Minneapolis. And so now

01:11:37.160 we're going there again because we have medication that can suppress the HIV virus such that it's not

01:11:44.200 as easily transmissible in sexual acts. But this woman is actually out there saying maybe we should

01:11:51.440 be encouraging public gay sex because it creates joy for them. And then you hear at the beginning 0.99

01:11:59.020 of her soundbite, she said, we are, we are weaponizing the hyper sexualization of gay 0.96

01:12:05.140 people. Like they are hyper sexual, she's saying, and we're weaponizing it by objecting to public 0.88

01:12:12.780 sex in bath houses by them. This is insane. Straight people don't need to have sex in public 0.97

01:12:19.980 in a bathhouse or anywhere else. Why do gay people, why, why is it, why am I a bigot if I 0.99

01:12:25.740 don't want to walk down the street with my kid past a bathhouse where we know there's a bunch 1.00

01:12:30.300 of gay sex happening inside? Right. Exactly. Right down the street from a school and a police 1.00

01:12:34.260 station. And then where's the line? What's next? Do they want to make prostitution legal in a place

01:12:40.580 like Minneapolis? I mean, that's, that's what this opens. Yeah. For the, for the joy. No, 0.98

01:12:44.920 this is for the joy. And by the way, I, again, I'm, I think it's wonderful that they have treatment

01:12:49.340 for hiv and aids um they didn't have that you know 45 years ago when it broke out in the late

01:12:55.460 1980s and millions of people lost their lives and that's a tragedy and they have that now and

01:12:58.740 that's great but if you look at these commercials again i will be with my children we will be

01:13:03.860 watching like a baseball game and it'll be a commercial where they're they're not normalizing

01:13:08.700 treatment they're normalizing hiv aids and somebody's like on a kayak and they're like

01:13:13.600 sitting in a jacuzzi and they're at like an art class and a yoga class and that's all terrific 0.79

01:13:18.420 but the message should still be practice safe sex, right? Like, are we still at that point?

01:13:23.900 I think we should be. Yes, absolutely. And here's here's this. There's an op-ed in the

01:13:29.920 Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is a far left paper. And the opinion is why repealing Minneapolis's

01:13:36.820 bathhouse ban could be a public health win, could be could be a big win for public health. Oh,

01:13:43.660 I'm sure it will be. They've lost their minds. This is Tim Wall's estate, of course, and Jacob

01:13:47.540 Fry's city and Jacob Fry's been all over the media celebrating this does not feel like a step

01:13:53.760 forward to me. On the subject, well, of what we were discussing, Jussie Smollett is back in the

01:14:01.060 news, Rob. Jussie Smollett showed up at a Harlem, I guess it was Pride Fest because he was in Harlem

01:14:08.440 dancing with some other gay men. And here's what that looked like. And listen to the lyrics if you

01:14:15.680 can hear it here. It's not 32.

01:14:45.680 okay he wants you to know he ain't hurting no more from i guess all the terrible abuse we've

01:14:56.980 heaped on him unjustly i ain't hurting no more um not a bad dancer by the way like that's that

01:15:03.360 takes some not a great one though no no not great better than you and me i'm sure yeah like

01:15:08.300 you still have to i'm gonna say i was slightly underwhelmed you have to learn the steps so that

01:15:13.560 takes i guess that requires some skill um is he is he look he's looking to make a comeback now

01:15:18.540 i suppose clearly yes and i'm sure he thinks he can have an act too yeah and the two gentlemen

01:15:25.500 around him not wearing maga hats i suppose uh but this is what i've noticed with the left

01:15:30.960 i was not a big fan of cancel culture when that was happening i i think that somebody like matt

01:15:36.320 lauer by the way i matt lauer has been off the grid for 10 years a lot of people have come back

01:15:41.760 and we're accused of far worse.

01:15:43.900 There are people out there that, you know,

01:15:46.440 on one side maybe don't get an opportunity.

01:15:49.640 And I'm not saying Matt Lauer

01:15:50.600 needs to come back to the Today Show.

01:15:53.580 You miss Matt?

01:15:54.800 Are you thirsty for a little Matt Lauer content?

01:15:57.500 No, no.

01:15:58.100 But I just, I think that when you're on the left,

01:16:02.060 there is no cancellation.

01:16:04.280 You get to come back whenever you want.

01:16:06.460 And there's never a cancellation.

01:16:09.100 Right.

01:16:09.620 you can pull a whole fake race hoax about being lynched, you know, the noose around the neck and 0.58

01:16:18.700 doused with gasoline in the middle of the night. You can humiliate Robin Roberts with your fake 0.62

01:16:24.780 news interview. And she was so gentle with him and so empathetic toward his victimhood.

01:16:29.580 Yes. And it's no problem. You can skirt, skirt responsibility. He never really had to pay for

01:16:35.880 that crime. You remember his, I'm not suicidal. I'm not suicidal. He never really had to do

01:16:40.240 anything as they let him out because of the COVID and whatever. He really never did any time for

01:16:44.060 that crime. And now you can be the headliner of the Harlem event. And I'm sure he will get scooped

01:16:50.600 up by some TV show or some movie producer and given another chance because he's a leftist, 0.98

01:16:56.100 gay, black man who, you know, race hoaxes are acceptable as long as they're accusing, 0.97

01:17:02.140 you know, MAGA people of doing bad things. And you know this, the media contributes to this 0.99

01:17:06.660 problem. Robin Roberts, I think she's she's a nice person. I think these people are looking

01:17:11.580 for these stories. I think she's a nice person. I've met her once. But I think these people are

01:17:15.540 looking for these stories. And as soon as they see them, they don't ask any actual critical

01:17:19.620 questions. They hear the story, they read the headline, and then they jump on it and propagate

01:17:25.460 this. And they are part of this problem. And this cycle, his story was that that two black guys

01:17:31.100 jumped him when he was leaving, I think, a subway around midnight. And they said, this is MAGA

01:17:35.320 country. Two in the morning. Two in the morning, even better. And the rest of the media, I mean,

01:17:40.300 more than half of the media just immediately jumped on the story and thought this was the

01:17:45.920 worst thing that ever happened without any without asking any questions. And Robin Roberts is part

01:17:50.400 of the problem. Yeah, no, she fell down on the job. First hour, we discussed how Nina Totenberg 1.00

01:17:56.540 did, too. I don't know if you followed that at all yesterday, but she reported that Alito's

01:18:00.220 retiring and he's not. She's the NPR Supreme Court correspondent. Rob, she actually excused her

01:18:05.780 failure with the following explanation. And she's sorry, whatever she, whatever that she was leaving

01:18:12.140 the high court after covering it for 50 years, she was leaving the high court and she heard

01:18:16.140 something about retirement announcements, but she didn't hear the S on the second word. So what she,

01:18:23.840 what she says she heard was there was something about a retirement announcement.

01:18:30.220 From that, she reported on NPR that Justice Alito was stepping down.

01:18:35.860 That's it.

01:18:37.000 Can you imagine trying to go to your Newsmax bosses and say, I heard I heard two words,

01:18:45.000 retirement announcement as I left the Supreme Court.

01:18:48.760 I'm just going to go ahead and say it's Justice Alito.

01:18:50.920 Let's run with that.

01:18:51.680 And that's her explanation that she just randomly heard those two words.

01:18:56.740 nothing about justice alito no name no confirmation from a justice or a source close to a justice

01:19:02.920 nothing they put it on npr they blasted it out everywhere and she still got her job today yeah

01:19:08.780 is she still technically with npr she i think she semi-retired from doing the supreme court

01:19:15.740 correspondent work but it doesn't matter on the big days npr still tweeted it and retweeted her

01:19:20.660 that's correct right oh and they still use her she was there covering it for you npr yesterday

01:19:24.480 because it was a big day and she's been there covering the supreme court for ever um but i

01:19:30.040 imagine this is why npr this is why people don't trust npr this is why people don't trust pbs think

01:19:36.840 about like when people on the right and and politicians in washington when they say they're

01:19:41.500 biased uh they're not they're not lying and if justice alito and i saw the supreme court

01:19:46.720 to your point they immediately acknowledged this and said it's not true which is very uncommon for

01:19:53.140 the Supreme Court. That's very uncommon for the high court to do. And they immediately acknowledged

01:19:57.880 it. And nobody else had the story. Just this has-been NPR reporter talking about a conservative

01:20:04.220 justice. And the story was immediately redacted. And that can happen if you're on the left. If you

01:20:10.380 do it on the right, if I did it, you've got a good chance of getting fired. That's how serious that

01:20:15.240 is. Immediately. No questions asked. Your ass would be out of there. So would mine. It would

01:20:21.280 be an utter humiliation. It's just ridiculous. The double standard. Okay. I want to, I want to 0.99

01:20:27.660 keep going, but this is a topic shift. We're looking a little bit at presidential politics

01:20:32.520 soon. By this time next summer, we're probably going to have a pretty good feel for who's running

01:20:36.500 on team red and team blue. And one of the guys we think is going to throw his hat in the ring on

01:20:40.960 the blue team is governor J.B. Pritzker of Illinois. He's starting to throw out a couple

01:20:47.120 of opening salvos, you know, a little red meat for his base. And they include this in SOT 34.

01:20:53.060 Watch this. The president says the Democratic Socialist, which he says is a nice term for 0.99

01:20:58.900 communist, as he's been labeling these Democrats since they won last week. He says they're the

01:21:04.140 greatest threat to the country since its founding. And he said that includes World War I, World War

01:21:08.960 II, Pearl Harbor and 9-11. The man is continually suffering from dementia. I don't think he really

01:21:16.240 understands what he's saying. The truth is that, I mean, this is a man who's threatened to jail

01:21:21.860 the mayor of Chicago, the governor of Illinois. He regularly threatens to go after people and

01:21:28.640 indeed has used the Department of Justice to go after people. So, you know, he just I think he

01:21:33.960 has these concepts in his head and he blurts them out without really thinking. So J.B. Pritzker

01:21:42.720 would like you to know that Trump has dementia. I don't remember him. That's not true. But I don't

01:21:48.160 remember him speaking up at all about someone who actually was having obvious signs of memory loss

01:21:54.400 and some sort of brain deterioration. And that was the Democratic president, Joe Biden.

01:21:59.940 Yes. Yes. How dare you? You don't have a medical degree. I dealt with that for four years. And I'm

01:22:04.860 not like a Trump sycophant. I think people think, oh, he works at Newsmax. He must be like a total,

01:22:09.120 you know he's totally in the bag for donald trump not at all but i agree with you donald trump and

01:22:14.860 i am armchair diagnosing just like i did with joe biden and guess what i can do that because i have

01:22:20.020 two eyes and a brain i don't have a medical degree but i have two eyes and a brain and i'm able to do

01:22:23.660 that and i have grandparents that had alzheimer's disease and my mother was a hospice nurse for 30

01:22:28.140 years does that make me an expert no but it gives me some exposure but i also just live in the world

01:22:32.620 okay so like everyone else so when you see it you know what it is you might not know the exact

01:22:37.860 diagnosis, but you know what it is. Donald Trump is fine. Donald Trump has all his marbles. I think

01:22:43.100 the man probably should sleep more. I think he would benefit from a good night's sleep. I think

01:22:46.680 he probably would benefit from maybe not being up at two in the morning, calling and texting

01:22:50.360 reporters and being on Truth Social. And I mean that totally. And his vice president. Exactly.

01:22:55.800 Okay. But Donald Trump does not have dementia. But this narrative from people like Pritzker

01:23:00.340 in Illinois, who, by the way, she just called Donald Trump and begged for the National Guard

01:23:03.800 to save that city that is one of america's really wonderful cities and it's been destroyed by the

01:23:08.440 crime that's been allowed to run rampant by brandon johnson the mayor and jv pritzker but

01:23:13.420 the fact that the left is now talking about this and i know that you have a relationship with jake

01:23:17.960 tapper i don't think jake likes me very much but the man covered up the joe biden health story for

01:23:25.080 four years right up until that debate then it was okay to talk about it and then he wrote a book to

01:23:29.680 make money off of that story. And that no matter what, I think that is one of the problems. And I

01:23:35.500 think the left are still dealing with the same problems that Joe Biden and people like Jake

01:23:40.220 Tapper and the media left them with in 2024. Well, that's another thing. Yes, I agree with

01:23:46.400 you. It was very obvious to all the media, including Tapper and everyone else that Joe

01:23:50.120 Biden wasn't all there. They just refused to report on it because they wanted him to

01:23:53.560 win the presidency against Donald Trump. But on the Nina Totenberg front,

01:23:57.440 she wrote a whole book about ruth bader ginsburg and she knew she knew that rbg had pancreatic

01:24:05.340 cancer and she did not report on it and i mean ask yourself like if you have that kind of a scoop

01:24:10.540 as a supreme court reporter and you don't report on that like that's a dereliction of duty in and

01:24:15.220 of itself like the the left hates rbg now because she died in office rather than allowing the seat 0.68

01:24:24.740 to go up for a Democrat president to choose her replacement. That's how we got Amy Coney Barrett 0.96

01:24:29.500 and like the Nina Totenbergs of the world decided to cover that again. Do you think they'd do that

01:24:35.520 for conservative justice? It's like these reporters, they see the world through entirely

01:24:40.760 different prisms. And by the way, I do wonder, like any reporter sitting there talking to

01:24:46.660 Governor Pritzker who said Joe Biden has dementia, like Caitlin Collins, would have been a challenge.

01:24:52.140 they would have been challenged immediately to the point you're saying immediately you're not

01:24:55.480 allowed to diagnose from the armchair think about jake tapper it's fine yeah think about jake tapper

01:25:00.600 and laura trump um it was for four years you were kind of you were like fringe if you even

01:25:05.360 said that uh if you said and by the way joe biden we're not talking about 2024 uh and we don't need

01:25:10.620 to relitigate joe biden i know but it's so important because this is they they wanted to

01:25:15.220 run this guy again megan they wanted to run him again if that debate doesn't happen in june of

01:25:20.120 2024 he's probably the nominee and i still think donald trump beats him in november but he still

01:25:27.200 would have been the nominee uh they thought they wanted to keep this going whoever was pulling the

01:25:31.160 strings in the background and this man was not okay in 2020 but he was able to navigate that

01:25:35.840 election cycle because of the pandemic he was able to literally do interviews from his basement

01:25:41.260 that's not hyperbole he would set up a zoom in his basement with his wife right next to him

01:25:44.620 and do two or three interviews a week and he was campaigning covid allowed him to do that and then

01:25:49.540 he got 81 million votes apparently and he became the president but he was not okay in my opinion

01:25:57.060 uh mentally cognitively in 2020 let alone 2024 let alone january 2029 if he were to win re-election

01:26:04.620 you see him at this event um you know last week where they have him out there and he can't he can

01:26:09.680 barely spit out words and you think that they actually told us this guy should have ongoing

01:26:14.940 access to the nuclear codes it's crazy all right when we come back we have to take a break

01:26:19.760 We've got to talk about what's happening at Wimbledon. 0.99

01:26:22.860 Yes, Wimbledon, I say, because we've not only got Naomi Osaka entering like she's some sort of a queen, 1.00

01:26:29.040 but Serena Williams in yet another example of poor sportsmanship. 1.00

01:26:35.680 It's kind of the main storyline whenever she appears.

01:26:38.840 That's next when we come back with Rob Finnerty.

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01:30:11.260 So what's happening at Wimbledon with these divas, Rob, is a bit much.

01:30:18.900 Okay. 0.96

01:30:19.440 A couple of years ago, we had Naomi Osaka who couldn't perform. 0.69

01:30:25.000 She couldn't be interviewed by the press. 0.98

01:30:26.660 She couldn't be asked about why she doesn't play that well on clay.

01:30:29.540 because it was these nasty reporters trying to get into her head. 1.00

01:30:33.260 Every other reporter could sit for that.

01:30:35.320 Every other reporter got asked about their weaknesses.

01:30:37.560 It's not fun as the journalist to zero in on their strengths.

01:30:40.340 We always go for the place that hurts.

01:30:41.820 That's what we get paid to do.

01:30:43.440 Everyone can take it except for her. 0.92

01:30:44.940 And then they changed the whole rule where players would now have these mental health

01:30:49.020 rooms to get ready in before they had to go play and they'd have psychiatric counseling 0.55

01:30:53.000 if they needed it, all because of this woman. 1.00

01:30:54.700 Now she arrives to the U.S. Open in some head-to-toe white kimono, trying to look like, I don't know, some sort of a goddess, some sort of a queen.

01:31:09.300 Now she's leaning into her fabulousness, Rob, and we're all expected to get on board and celebrate Naomi. 0.94

01:31:16.700 me well it's a no i don't respect naomi osaka at all she's not tough she's weak and only somebody 0.90

01:31:23.400 who is would walk in needing that kind of attention as opposed to somebody who lets the game speak for 0.99

01:31:29.240 itself so let's start with naomi osaka you first of all the outfit i mean i you just normally would

01:31:35.820 wear like your athletic gear when you arrive and you go underneath and you right you get ready and

01:31:41.580 then you come out and everyone maybe a tracksuit yeah that's what everybody's done but you think

01:31:45.420 about like, I grew up with tennis stars in the nineties, like Pete Sampras, Andy Roddick, Andre

01:31:51.260 Agassi. Um, if you go a little further back, like Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe and, and these

01:31:57.440 people were competitors and Chrissy Everett, of course, of course. Uh, and you can keep going

01:32:02.080 back. Um, what's her name? The one who married Andre Steffi Graff. Oh yeah. She's a doll. Um,

01:32:08.480 no, it's, and you look at what's happened and what's changed. They were competitors. You look

01:32:13.040 at like Rafa Nadal now and I'm not the biggest tennis fan but you can't not watch these people

01:32:17.160 when they're competing in majors because all they want to do is beat each other and you look at

01:32:21.240 Coco Gauff and you look at that at the competitors on the women's side I mean really on the men's 1.00

01:32:26.740 side too and it's just it's like this generation of like little weaklings who can't sit down and 0.57

01:32:32.760 do a press conference who are making millions of dollars off the court as well in endorsements

01:32:38.860 and they can't they're not there for the fans they're there look at me flowing robes like how

01:32:43.280 do you want people to react to that like if i brought my daughter if you were there with your

01:32:46.280 kids how do you explain that you'd be like well that's just i guess that's what she that's what

01:32:49.520 they do i guess that she's wearing that so we have to we have to honor her and clap and and

01:32:53.580 and genuflect as well and bow and curtsy yes naomi osaka was part of the like black only

01:33:01.900 dinner party that happened during the french open um it's just so outrageous like if you and i had

01:33:08.160 a whites only dinner party we we if i was in traditional media would get fired you'd get 0.93

01:33:12.940 fired from news but you can have a black only dinner party because that's a celebration

01:33:16.440 of you know i guess blackness which is allowed but celebrations of whiteness are not no and she 0.72

01:33:22.500 was big on the blm stuff but you can't ask her questions about clay and she's shy and she needs 0.82

01:33:29.140 mental health counseling but she's totally entitled to call all this attention to herself 0.69

01:33:32.780 in a head-to-toe white kimono as she arrives in Wimbledon. And I guess, are we allowed to

01:33:38.920 ask about that or not? I'm not clear on the rules on what you can ask Naomi about and what you can't

01:33:44.860 because we're all just living in her world. And speaking of the weird behavior around the pressers

01:33:52.280 that follow the matches, Rob, which all of the players do, and most of them dislike, at least

01:33:59.300 the losers dislike them because you've just lost a match and you really don't want to be asked about

01:34:03.540 it. It's hard, but it's part of tennis. They all do it. Serena Williams at age 44 decides to try

01:34:11.720 to reemerge at Wimbledon and look hats off to her. She actually is the goat of female tennis. I think 0.98

01:34:18.240 her numbers are even better than Steffi Graff's. Forgive me, Steffi, if I'm wrong, but they're

01:34:21.240 right. They're right. Like, I think they might both have 23 grand slams. Yeah. Crazy ass, you

01:34:25.900 know, accomplishments, but age comes for us all. And so Serena tries to go back out there and she 1.00

01:34:32.340 lost. She got, she got her ass beat in her first round and went down and guess what she refused to 0.99

01:34:39.400 do? The press conference after the fact, which was considered universally bad form by her. 0.99

01:34:47.080 She's too much of a diva, Rob. She didn't want to have to submit herself to the questions of 0.90

01:34:52.600 reporters. And there's a report out today that while she was refusing to do that, she was

01:34:57.620 complaining to the Wimbledon organizers who, since she lost removed from her, the ability to use

01:35:04.320 five black cars, you know, like the town cars that take you around everywhere where there was one for

01:35:09.100 her mom. There was one for her sister. There was one for her trainer. She had five. She lost. And

01:35:13.920 they said, we're no longer going to pay for those five black cars. And reportedly she complained. 0.95

01:35:18.540 she wanted them throughout the tournament period end of report i'm sick of this woman's diva behavior 1.00

01:35:23.740 and she's worth not millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars she absolutely is is the 1.00

01:35:28.660 greatest of all time on the women's side not only that but just as an athlete 44 years old 0.98

01:35:34.800 they let her come back and she didn't like come back to the phoenix open they let her come back

01:35:39.320 for the first time the first match she's played is at wimbledon which is one of the most prestigious

01:35:43.800 tournaments if not the most prestigious tennis event that we have every year um she plays somebody

01:35:50.300 who has got a 3 and 13 record i think is ranked something like 80th in the world and then there's

01:35:55.540 that little nearly weak handshake right there that drives me crazy you are a leader you are a legend

01:36:01.520 in your sport give this young lady a hug i don't know who she is all right give her a hug she just

01:36:06.460 beat somebody she grew up idolizing watching and someone she probably never thought she would play 1.00

01:36:11.420 let alone at wimbledon and what does she do she gives you this little this little wet 0.95

01:36:15.500 flaccid clam thing after the match because you just lost you've got 39 grand slam wins 23 singles

01:36:21.380 wins you're the greatest of all time give this girl a proper handshake and a hug and and congratulate

01:36:26.600 her because this is a huge moment for tennis and it's a huge moment in her life whether or not she

01:36:31.040 ever wins a match again and then at the end walk into that media briefing room drink your gatorade

01:36:37.200 and give a press conference and answer every single question answer every single question

01:36:43.800 because this might be your last time doing it go out with grace dignity and style and by the way

01:36:48.520 if you did that maybe the tournament will give you those five town cars that you don't deserve

01:36:52.660 and that you don't need anymore gas is expensive all right but maybe they would have but because 0.98

01:36:56.760 you she handled it like a total loser she handled it like a total loser and it's a shame it's a 1.00

01:37:02.220 shame and it's bad for the sport yes she's got she's got a repeat problem with bad sportsmanship 0.99

01:37:08.360 here you're right the the mealy uh handshake with the woman who beat her was 20 year old

01:37:12.840 australian maya joint um who won and you're right about her ranking i think she's 78th in the world

01:37:17.620 she's but she beat serena um she's a lot younger a lot younger and people that's why the older 0.88

01:37:24.260 players don't do well they can't last serena fell apart in the third set that's what happened here 0.61

01:37:29.340 You know, of course, she's she's 24 years older than this other girl. Right. 0.99

01:37:33.200 Foreseeable. And by the way, she took the spot of another girl who could have been there ascending in her career. 0.89

01:37:39.240 Whatever. She wanted to see her name in lights again. She got it.

01:37:42.160 And then those press conferences afterward are mandatory and she refused to go.

01:37:46.320 And then it actually came out the Daily Mail's reporting that when Serena tried to come back in 2022, she was beaten there, too, in the first round by Harmony Tan.

01:37:55.640 And Harmony Tan said that Serena, after the match, right after, blocked Harmony Tan on Instagram.

01:38:03.400 Like, that's Serena. 0.79

01:38:04.620 She blocked the girl who beat her. 1.00

01:38:06.340 She gave the barely-there handshake to this girl. 1.00

01:38:09.080 She refused to show up at the mandatory press conference. 1.00

01:38:11.740 She bitched that her five car, town cars, were taken away from her.

01:38:16.240 And look, who could forget what happened at the U.S. Open?

01:38:19.700 Was it 10 years ago?

01:38:21.120 When she berated that little lines judge, remember?

01:38:24.820 Watch it.

01:38:25.640 This is the tape is infamous.

01:38:30.820 Next shot's not going to show us.

01:38:35.360 That's the point.

01:38:37.500 That is extraordinary.

01:38:38.840 So Raymond Williams is giving it to her.

01:38:42.220 Well, she'll have to be careful here.

01:38:43.720 She's already had a warning for racket abuse.

01:38:47.940 Here we go.

01:38:49.320 And this could be trouble. 0.97

01:38:55.640 and what she was yelling was reportedly i swear to god i'll effing take the ball and shove it down 1.00

01:39:07.840 your effing throat to that little lie judge who was like running running from a to b anyway your 1.00

01:39:12.720 thoughts on her right well um i think that's a felony by the way if she were to do something 1.00

01:39:16.760 like that i think if she were to do that imagine she did that on the court right there everyone's

01:39:20.160 like wow this match really um no it's it's too bad i remember in the 1980s uh michael jordan

01:39:26.460 lost multiple years to either magic johnson or larry bird and also and then the detroit pistons

01:39:32.740 in the playoffs and you can go back on youtube and watch the press conferences he was dejected

01:39:38.160 um he was depressed he didn't know if he'd ever make it to the top i'm talking about michael

01:39:42.520 jordan here and he's sitting here he's taking his lumps he's you know in the media's the sports

01:39:47.080 media is not they're not great they're hard but he sat there and took his lumps and then he went

01:39:52.600 on to win six titles and he vanquished everyone including the Detroit Pistons including the

01:39:58.700 Lakers and the Celtics as well and I look at Serena Williams and it just it bothers me that

01:40:05.520 these I understand how competitive this is and in that moment I'm sure she was upset but you go back

01:40:11.180 to Wimbledon Megan and you think about all the people that are there who maybe have never seen

01:40:16.240 before that are watching. There are probably families. It's a big corporate event, but there

01:40:21.080 are families there. There are, you know, little girls and little boys there. They're like, wow,

01:40:24.540 we get to see Serena. We thought she was retired. And then she does that. And it just sort of

01:40:28.540 confirms in your mind what's been building up for years and years about this woman, that she is a

01:40:33.520 great, great player, but maybe not a great, great person. And there's a difference. There's a

01:40:38.140 difference. Totally. There is definitely a sense of entitlement there that shines whenever she's

01:40:43.780 in the spotlight. Yeah. OK. Last but not least, Dwayne The Rock Johnson has come out to say he

01:40:50.060 doesn't want to get political. He just wants to act. He enjoys being on the big screen and bringing

01:40:55.420 joy to people through his acting and his movies. And he thinks that's a gift. And he doesn't want

01:41:00.480 to get political because he realizes how toxic it is and how it alienates a lot of people. 100%

01:41:07.200 feel like people on our side of the aisle. That's all we've been asking. We don't we don't need you

01:41:11.880 to say conservative things or be a Trump supporter or anything. But it's just like, please let us

01:41:16.900 have the the not knowing whether you hate us or not. That that's we would love to have the not

01:41:23.440 knowing. Right. Well, that's not acceptable to some. George Takai, the Star Trek guy, he's ripping

01:41:30.540 on him all over threads. He's very upset with that position. And now Will Wheaton. You don't

01:41:38.840 know who will wheaton is but i'll tell you will wheaton was one of the little boys from stand by

01:41:43.000 me he was yes he was like the sweet the sweet good looking one um well so was river phoenix

01:41:49.780 but anyway uh he's one of the sweet good looking ones great movie by the way he came out great

01:41:55.440 movie and called duane the rock johnson a coward for this decision so disappointing to find out

01:42:03.320 that he is such a coward and what duane the rock johnson said was quote what i have learned through

01:42:08.680 experiences that I need to keep, need, not want to keep the main thing, the main thing. And the 0.95

01:42:14.020 main thing for me, the thing that in the morning I swing my legs out of bed and I run toward

01:42:18.180 is creating. It's art. It's storytelling. So I've learned I'm going to keep my politics to myself.

01:42:23.380 There are moments when, hey, there's nothing we can't talk about. If I'm wrong, I'll tell you

01:42:27.280 I'm wrong. Or if I feel like I got a leg up and this is the right way to go, I'll share it with

01:42:31.180 you. But he doesn't want to get into politics because he says, I hate the slinging. I hate

01:42:36.680 all the bullshit that comes with it. And now he's taking it on the chin from somebody really 1.00

01:42:42.580 no one's ever heard of. But this small sect of the left, the leftist acting crowd that insists

01:42:49.000 you're cowardly. The view just had this same discussion about I think it was Keith Urban

01:42:54.140 who doesn't want to talk about his politics, which, of course, means that he's a conservative

01:42:57.500 and they berated him for that position. Right. Because they insist or was it Kenny Chesney was

01:43:04.240 one of the i think it was keith urban um because they insist that you share their politics and

01:43:09.500 then get vocal about them i love this uh i hadn't heard that the rock it is interesting the rock

01:43:15.300 does have a movie coming out july 10th i think moana the live action so michael jordan republicans

01:43:22.260 go to movies too so maybe it's a smart business move on his part um but johnny carson was number

01:43:28.780 one for something like 30 years because nobody knew his politics he was definitely conservative

01:43:32.640 from nebraska friends with ronald reagan but that was part of his magic and you look at jimmy kimmel

01:43:37.880 and and some of the others today and it's so unattractive that half of the country can't

01:43:42.580 watch them um i wish that people like george clooney would take a page out of the rocks book

01:43:48.280 and do this as well yeah um because i like so many ben affleck so many of these actors that

01:43:54.340 i really did like until i found out how much they hate half of the country and it's really

01:43:59.600 unattractive and for anyone that says that it doesn't impact how you feel about their movies

01:44:03.400 to me it does now i'll go still i'll see a leonardo dicaprio movie because he's the best

01:44:07.860 but i'm thinking about it in the movie i will not see a george clooney movie though

01:44:12.120 me neither i would not say you just did i think he just ben affleck says i was gonna say that 0.86

01:44:17.200 that netflix movie that i just did was terrible by the way that stupid thing on the train terrible

01:44:20.740 movie george clooney okay i didn't even see it but ben affleck says he won't even act across 0.99

01:44:25.840 from a Republican. So good luck. By the way, it was Kenny Chesney. I would submit to you then,

01:44:30.420 Ben Affleck, you should say no to your next The Rock movie, because I'm just going to throw it

01:44:34.100 out there. Nine times out of 10, the ones who won't talk about their politics are righties,

01:44:38.960 they're conservatives, and they know what's going to happen in their careers in Hollywood if they

01:44:42.280 speak out, unlike Chris Pratt, who was one of the few who were bold and unapologetic about it.

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