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00:00:58 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:01:09 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. NPR is trying to explain

00:01:15 how they got their story about Justice Samuel Alito retiring so wrong, and it is raising

00:01:21 more questions than answers. Wait until you hear their explanation. This whole thing feels like a

00:01:29 punk. Like, am I dreaming? Did this really happen? Plus, we've got a lot of thoughts on Serena

00:01:35 Williams and her return to Wimbledon. She thinks she's the queen bee. And I'm sorry to break it to 0.99

00:01:42 you, Serena. Those days have come and gone. There are new stars on the court. And while you'll

00:01:47 always have an important place in tennis. That day has come and gone and you cannot go out there

00:01:54 and act like you are still queen of the court because you're not. That's later. First, however,

00:01:59 we've been telling you about the far left socialist and let's face it, communist takeover

00:02:04 of the Democratic Party, highlighted by three victories of progressive candidates in New York

00:02:08 City primaries for House seats. But again, the primaries in New York City, that's basically

00:02:13 the final because Republicans can't win there. But they've been taking down members of the

00:02:19 Democratic establishment. And now we know it is not just a big city East Coast thing,

00:02:23 because last night in Colorado, socialist Malat Kiros defeated 15-term incumbent Diana DeGette

00:02:32 in the Democratic primary for a House seat that represents the Denver area.

00:02:38 Kiros ran on abolishing ICE, on Medicare for All, on her fervent opposition to U.S. support for Israel,

00:02:45 and on a trans bill of rights, which she posted on her campaign website. 0.55

00:02:51 I mean, that's kind of par for the course for these Democratic socialists.

00:02:55 As we discussed when the 3 won in New York City, the official DSA platform includes defunding the Pentagon,

00:03:04 de-incarceration. So I think like all the prisons would be open, not just defunding police, but

00:03:11 getting rid of police and also getting rid of the presidency and the U.S. Senate. So

00:03:21 I'm not exactly sure how they'll govern if they get their way. Maybe just the House of

00:03:26 Representatives is left over because we're not going to have a Pentagon and we're not going to

00:03:29 have a Senate. We're not going to have a chief executive or maybe it was. No, sorry. Let me

00:03:35 correct myself. It was judges. We're going to get rid of judges. Maybe the Senate can stay

00:03:39 tough to remember which body of the Constitution they would like to strike.

00:03:44 But good luck with that. It's going to be kind of tough to push through. We on the right,

00:03:48 we're talking about possibly a constitutional amendment to change the whole birthright

00:03:52 citizenship. And we're reminded that that takes 38 states. I'm not sure we're going to have 38

00:03:57 States to abolish whole branches of the government. But this is the crazy that's getting elected now

00:04:05 coast to coast. Based on this woman's victory speech last night, she does not appear to be

00:04:11 moderating on her views anytime soon. Watch. We will not wait to take the fight to Donald Trump

00:04:19 and the oligarchy. We will not wait. We will not wait to abolish ICE and pass Medicare

00:04:28 for All. We will not wait to put an end to the politics of the past, to get big money

00:04:39 out of our politics and to reject corporate PACs and AIPAC if we organize

00:04:48 and show no fear and standing up for what's right that is the message that

00:04:55 Denver has sent to both parties to Donald Trump and to the entire country

00:05:06 What is that obnoxious horn that's blowing there? She's 29 years old. She reportedly got booted out of her law firm, Sydney and Austin, for writing an opinion piece or signing a letter early on in support of the Palestinian side in the whole conflict shortly after 10-7 and refused to stand down on that. 1.00

00:05:32 So she's a hero to people who are Israel critical, but her platform goes so far beyond that.

00:05:38 I love the Medicare for all like, oh, it sounds so lovely.

00:05:40 So we're going to have socialized medicine is what she wants.

00:05:43 How's that worked out elsewhere? 0.95

00:05:45 And by the way, who's going to pay for that?

00:05:47 Because our country is facing like bankruptcy right now on our debt and we don't have that.

00:05:52 So I'm just wondering where she's going to get the money for that because, you know, the billionaires, even if we took all their money, we couldn't afford it.

00:05:58 Joining me now to react to this and much more is Matt Taibbi, editor of Racket News on Substack.

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00:07:16 Matt, a great day to have you. Thanks so much for coming on. Great to see you.

00:07:19 Good to see you, Megan. How are you?

00:07:21 So it's all going to be free. Medicare for all. And we're also going to get rid of ICE.

00:07:27 So no more policing of illegals. It's basically open borders. They're all for that.

00:07:32 They don't like cops. They do like illegals. They want somehow to pay for Medicare for everybody in 1.00

00:07:38 the country, socialized medicine. And they're very, very opposed to Israel. And I would submit

00:07:43 to you, that last point is going, it's the determining factor. It's not the only factor,

00:07:50 but if you had to rank the things that are driving these elections, I would put it number one,

00:07:55 because the Democrat Party is just so solidly against Israel right now. But what do you make

00:08:00 of it? Well, I think you're right about the last point. American politics in recent years has been

00:08:08 a series of litmus tests. And the most recent one on the Democratic side is clearly the Israel 0.89

00:08:15 issue. If you haven't taken a stance on it, if you're a supporter of Israel, you're really not

00:08:24 electable anymore in the Democratic Party. And this is a major factor in the DSA's success at

00:08:33 the primary level, and it spells trouble for the leadership of the party. I mean, we saw what

00:08:39 happened in New York after the victories of the three Mamdani-backed candidates. When

00:08:46 Hakeem Jeffries flashed on a television screen, everybody was chanting, you are next, you are next.

00:08:52 So they're very intent on ousting the traditionalist wing of the Democratic Party.

00:08:59 Yeah. So how does that play out if they continue doing that? Right. And they I mean, then the battle eventually becomes between them and Republicans, at least in some general election contests.

00:09:15 I mean, so far this is happening only in like very, very deep blue cities and states for, you know, congressional representation in which Republicans are a joke.

00:09:25 But I mean, at some point they're going to face them, I guess, in a general election contest if this keeps happening.

00:09:30 And either way, even if they get elected right into Congress as the new Democrats, they're going to have to fight the Republicans once they go to Capitol Hill.

00:09:37 And it seems to me that right now Republicans are relishing the thought of that.

00:09:41 But it could be one of those careful what you wish for situations, Matt, given the way the country's going right now.

00:09:47 Yeah. So this is what makes it fascinating.

00:09:49 I mean, I'm not embarrassed to admit that not long ago I was fairly supportive of Bernie Sanders.

00:09:58 I knew Bernie very well early in my career as a reporter.

00:10:03 He had me tag along with him in Congress and showed me how everything in the House worked when he this was way back when he was still in the House.

00:10:11 When he ran for president, the prospect of him becoming the nominee was a really interesting thought experiment for the Democrats in 2016, because it's quite possible that he would have done better than Hillary Clinton at the time.

00:10:26 The electorate was deeply anti-establishment. Hillary was running as a political insider, which was very unpopular.

00:10:34 And the things that Sanders was promoting, there was a lot of popularity to a lot of the things that he was calling for, including like abolishing student debt.

00:10:46 Medicare for all is actually popular with a lot of Democrats.

00:10:52 The problem with this new crew of DSA candidates, and I know they're technically under the same tent as Bernie Sanders, but they're a very different group of people.

00:11:04 And I know this, among other things, you know, I studied at a Soviet college.

00:11:10 I'm old enough to have gone to university in the Soviet Union.

00:11:14 I'm very familiar with this personality type.

00:11:17 I took scientific communism in college.

00:11:21 And so I know the difference between the real thing and what Bernie was in 2016, which he was running as a traditional sort of FDR Democrat.

00:11:33 He grew up in a poor neighborhood with great reverence for the Democratic Party.

00:11:38 He clearly loves his home state of Vermont.

00:11:42 That is not the vibe with this crew that uses terms like seize the means of production very freely.

00:11:50 And I just don't think we'll see what happens when when they get exposed to the general electorate.

00:11:55 I think the people are there's going to be a rebuke there, but it will be interesting to see how the party reacts to that.

00:12:03 I mean, so far, the party's reacting like it's developed a cancer and it wants to cut the tumor out very badly of the core organ.

00:12:10 The mainstream Democrats seem horrified by the ascendancy of some of these radical leftists, but they're kind of powerless to stop it because they're running normie Democrats against them and they're getting crushed in these deep blue districts.

00:12:27 like the Democrat Party seems to want something much more radical. And it tends to be in New York

00:12:34 City, at least so far. And now in this Denver election, the white people, it's the rich white

00:12:38 people who are voting for them. Like in New York, we saw the blacks and the Hispanics say, no, we

00:12:44 don't want that. We kind of like cops, actually. They're in our neighborhoods protecting us. We 1.00

00:12:50 like living. We like our kids living. It's the elite white rich people over and over who are

00:12:57 drawn to this, Matt. Why? Because they don't know, Megan. I mean, I wrote a book about

00:13:05 Eric Garner, the murder of a police murder. And as a result of that, in doing the research,

00:13:13 I had to spend roughly two years on the street talking to people in that very spot. Now,

00:13:20 one of the things that happened after Eric Garner was killed is that the Staten Island and that

00:13:27 precinct elected to permanently station a squad car right on that spot, right next to the park.

00:13:34 And the neighborhood, I think, was roughly a 60-40 split in favor of the police being there

00:13:43 because there were fewer fights, there were fewer disturbances, there were fewer robberies at the

00:13:48 uh of the stores in the in the neighborhood um and that's generally what you'll hear in poor

00:13:56 neighborhoods if you talk to people there there is there are people who are very anti-police in

00:14:01 the projects but there are also people who are very uh frightened and and see crime as a bigger

00:14:07 problem it's only people who live um who go to you know elite universities and live in very rich

00:14:15 neighborhoods and don't spend time in those places who who think that police abolition is

00:14:21 is this idea that's going to be universally embraced by by the poor or prison abolition for

00:14:28 that matter uh that they just have no real life experience and that that is very typical of this

00:14:34 type of person it's i mean it's it sounds like a joke that we a modern day america would be

00:14:42 electing candidates who say, I want to get rid of all the cops. I want to open all the prisons.

00:14:47 I want the, all the illegals to be able to stay. And I want the public dime to pay for all healthcare 1.00

00:14:57 for all these people, including the illegals and also all trans so-called care, you know, kids 1.00

00:15:04 at the taxpayer. Like that's where we we stop with the similarities on, for example, 0.80

00:15:12 the Vladimir Putin approach to socialism. The conservatism that goes hand in hand with what

00:15:19 he's offering over there is completely rejected in favor of true leftist radicalism. I'll show

00:15:28 you just one. I mean, some of the things we mentioned and Putin would take a firm hand on

00:15:32 policing and he's not for illegals populating the streets of Russia or criminals. But look at this

00:15:39 picture of this woman who won last night, this Malak Kiros, and the person she was out there

00:15:45 campaigning with. This is like, for the listening audience, it looks like a transvestite. It looks 0.92

00:15:51 like a drag queen kind of person, a man in a bikini with a huge orange mustache and a huge 0.92

00:15:58 orange head of hair, almost lionesque in its presentation. And she's in his armpit 0.99

00:16:04 with a big hug. There's actually video of the two of them together. It's a soundbite as she gets

00:16:11 welcomed to the Pride stage. This, well, I guess now last month, since it's July 1st, 5B, watch.

00:16:16 And that is why today I am personally endorsing for Congress,

00:16:21 Melon Kiros, everybody!

00:16:25 My name is Melon Kiros.

00:16:27 I'm running for Congress to stand up to the billionaires and the corporations

00:16:32 burning our planet and profiting from genocide.

00:16:37 I'm running because I believe in a world where every single human being,

00:16:41 no matter where you're born, no matter what body you're born into,

00:16:45 no matter what wealth you're born into,

00:16:47 You are deserving of dignity, of unfettered joy, and of pride!

00:16:53 Get your ballots in by Tuesday!

00:16:57 Make your voice heard!

00:17:01 Dignity?

00:17:03 I'm not sure that's the word for that scene, Matt.

00:17:06 Yeah, I mean, again, these are sort of niche political ideas.

00:17:10 I understand people talking about it maybe in a common room of a dorm at Columbia.

00:17:17 or cornell or someplace like that or uh but you know the the ordinary person is going to have a

00:17:25 tough time swallowing uh so to speak publicly funded uh transitions in places like prisons or

00:17:34 even you know to bring up a more serious issue putting uh housing biological males in women's

00:17:42 prisons which is something the aclu as well as the dsa favors you know we had that decision by the

00:17:49 supreme court yesterday striking down or at least allowing states to bar the participation of

00:17:57 biological men and women's sports but there was a you know a while there and these dsa pseudo

00:18:04 intellectuals are all for this where it it was basically verboten for people in the media to use

00:18:12 the term biological sex or biological male or to mention that or to say that there were two sexes

00:18:18 um you know the biologist colin wright was essentially kicked out of academics for saying

00:18:25 that there there are two that that sex is binary and this is not popular either right i mean it's

00:18:32 It's one thing to advocate for rights for people and to advocate against, say, housing discrimination or, you know, health insurance discrimination, any of those things.

00:18:46 But it's very different to demand a complete rejection of, say, science and, you know, physical or biological reality.

00:18:56 That's where they are.

00:18:57 Did you see we played it yesterday, but Craig Melvin on The Today Show gave like a trigger

00:19:00 warning before he read language from the Supreme Court decision referring to biological boys and

00:19:07 biological girls. Like, you know, I know this is going to upset you, but it comes from the

00:19:11 U.S. Supreme Court. Here's more. This is CNN's chief legal analyst, Laura Coates. Listen to how

00:19:17 she referred to the decision and the issues being discussed in it and sought 27. This is a monumental

00:19:22 decision not unexpected however given how the oral arguments went here was the crux of the issue

00:19:27 it was whether or not somebody who was assigned the male gender at birth would be allowed to play

00:19:34 in a traditionally so-called girls sports in a public a high school or of course in the college

00:19:40 setting so-called yeah and and assigned male at birth is just factually incorrect um i understand

00:19:51 It's movement speak. But media organizations and, you know, I was I was in traditional media during the period when we first started to be policed about the language that we can that we can use.

00:20:06 I remember the first time that, you know, it came up in a fact checking meeting that we had to use the term undocumented instead of illegal.

00:20:16 And once activists figured out that they could have that kind of leverage over media organizations, they started doing it increasingly often.

00:20:26 And what ended up happening was is that a lot of media people just unthinkingly embraced terms without considering what they really mean.

00:20:37 Gender-affirming care carries a very, very specific meaning, and it essentially means that you can't embrace the idea that some dysphoric young people, like, you know, say an 11-year-old boy or a girl who feels troubled about their gender identity, that maybe that person might end up being happy about being a boy or a girl.

00:21:07 Gender affirming, essentially, care, essentially means that you're going to give them the kind of care that's going to make them transition.

00:21:16 And so using that terminology is very, it's political in itself, in addition to being factually questionable. 0.54

00:21:26 And it's amazing to watch networks apologizing for using the right words.

00:21:33 Yeah, I mean, it's just such a farce, assigned male at birth.

00:21:37 assigned male by God. That's more accurate. You'd be better off going there. Let's spend a minute 0.97

00:21:44 on what happened yesterday at the high court. First of all, the Nina Totenberg massive face

00:21:52 plant is seriously newsworthy. I can't believe what her explanation was. This time yesterday,

00:21:59 we were talking about the decision and we did point out that Nina Totenberg, who's the Supreme

00:22:04 court reporter a long time for NPR blew it, not the reporting on the two decisions, but right

00:22:11 after those decisions, she reported that justice Alito was retiring and she was the only one who

00:22:18 had it get getting this. Just so people know, I covered the high court for three years for Fox

00:22:22 news. Get being the first with a retirement announcement is huge in Supreme court reporting

00:22:28 circles. It's like the mother load that everybody's fighting for. Other than the weird Dobbs leak,

00:22:35 you don't get advanced copies of decisions. That's not an area in which one reporter can beat

00:22:43 another covering the high court. This is the whole ballgame. You find out a justice is stepping down

00:22:50 and you are the first to report it. It's huge. It's the mother load. So she's semi-retired. I

00:22:57 guess she is retired, which is what I said yesterday, but she came back for yesterday's

00:23:02 big day at the Supreme Court and she was there and she is the one who reported that Justice Alito

00:23:10 was retiring. It went up on NPR's website. My team forwarded it to me immediately. I'm like,

00:23:16 holy shit. I had heard, and I've reported this on the show before, that he is likely to step down. 0.99

00:23:22 I've heard that from people who know. But that's one thing that is totally different from he's a

00:23:30 retiring. It's happening. There's been an announcement that is a very, very different

00:23:34 kettle of fish. So she she goes with it. We see it on on our team. I reach out to my own sources

00:23:41 who say it's not true. And by the time I went back to my team saying my sources saying it's not true,

00:23:46 So NPR had taken it down. And when we went off the air yesterday, I was saying to my team,

00:23:53 if that's NPR's error, like if they took a Nina Totenberg canned report on Alito's legacy

00:23:59 and somebody there had it wrong that he was retiring, then they should publicly come out

00:24:02 and say so, so that she's not, she doesn't have egg on her face because she wouldn't deserve that.

00:24:07 I'd be mad as the reporter if that happened to me. Wrong. Totally wrong. That's not what

00:24:11 happen at all. It was 100 percent Nina Totenberg's fault. And the explanation about how this went

00:24:19 down, Matt, is so crazy. What happened? Okay. Okay. You've got to hear it. Is this on tape,

00:24:26 you guys? Because she was going to go on. Oh, it is. All right. It's not 26. Let's listen to her

00:24:31 explain it on NPR's All Things Considered yesterday. It's entirely on me. It's not

00:24:36 anybody else's fault. And I've written to Justice Alito to apologize, and I thought I would read

00:24:42 you most of this letter because it tells you everything. Okay. Dear Justice Alito, there are

00:24:47 no words to adequately apologize for today's error in reporting your retirement. It was entirely my

00:24:53 fault. I rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announcements, and when I realized that

00:24:59 the usual rush of folks after a few minutes had not happened, I asked somebody what was going on

00:25:05 inside, to which the answer was retirement announcements. I didn't hear the S on announcements

00:25:12 and assumed something no reporter should ever do, that you were retiring. It was the worst

00:25:19 professional mistake of my more than 50 years in journalism. I could go on, but I don't know

00:25:25 what else to say except that I am so, so sorry, and I am eternally, you know, this was a rookie

00:25:32 mistake i uh have you heard back from the justice no but i didn't expect to hear back from him it's

00:25:38 my mistake that's it's unbelievable that that that is truly incredible and uh the fact that they

00:25:50 they put that on on the air and didn't see that that's even more embarrassing than the mistake

00:25:57 um yes is is incredible uh how is that helping no exactly i mean being and as you as you pointed

00:26:07 out this is uh you know this is the mother of all stories for somebody on that beat

00:26:13 and the last thing you want to do is have to go up on uh all things considered and say boy i really

00:26:20 you know f that one up um you know that that's a career kind of killing mistake so it has it has

00:26:29 to be a situation where somebody concretely tells you that it's happening and you you get to ask

00:26:35 wait just to be sure you're you're saying uh that alito is retiring right like you want to double

00:26:43 check at least you want to try to check it with you know you're you're playing with the dynamite

00:26:48 stick. It's it's lit. The fuse is going. You know, you're playing with it. You like you make

00:26:53 quadruple sure before you hit publish that you've got it. You got it. You heard it. Alito

00:27:01 announced he's retiring. Is that correct? Any she says it's a rookie mistake. That's an insult to

00:27:07 rookies. Rookies know you check it out. Check it out. The story, Matt, is that as she was leaving

00:27:16 the Supreme Court, she heard something about retirement announcements. She hurts. No,

00:27:24 I rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announced announcements,

00:27:28 announcements. And she misheard, she says, an announcement about a retirement.

00:27:35 And then she what? She just assumed that it was Alito. She doesn't even argue that she heard

00:27:43 an announcement that said alito was retiring nor did she see who was making the announcement

00:27:49 nor does she posit that she was in their hearing with her own ears that there was a

00:27:54 that this is so bad she's either got dementia or she's making it up yeah or she needs to be

00:28:03 fired for malfeasance i like something smells very wrong with the whole story yeah that that

00:28:09 story is either not true like it's it's you know somebody else made the mistake and she's falling

00:28:15 on a sword or something like that or or it's just uh beyond embarrassing i mean it it really speaks

00:28:22 to what's happened in journalism in the last you know 10 15 20 years you know go back and watch

00:28:29 all the president's men they were afraid to put out a story that had four sources behind it and

00:28:33 they still got it wrong uh in the big disaster scene in that movie you would never ever go

00:28:42 to print with one unnamed source where the source doesn't even tell you what you're you're

00:28:49 asserting you you can't make uh an assumption about something you overheard uh on npr i mean

00:28:56 are you kidding me that that that is that is a truly unbelievable media story megan

00:29:02 it's incredible i i rushed out of the courtroom after the opinion announced after they were

00:29:09 announcing announcements my my transcript of this is weird um okay i asked somebody what's going on

00:29:14 inside to which the answer was retirement announcements i asked somebody what was going

00:29:20 on inside to which the answer was retirement announcements i didn't hear the s on announcements

00:29:29 so she heard what's going on inside retirement announcement and assumed something no reporter

00:29:37 should ever do that you were retiring so she her her explanation is that some rando told her

00:29:45 she didn't even hear it that there were quote retirement a retirement announcement happening

00:29:52 inside and by her own admission no one said to her alito so i mean even if you were in the

00:29:59 position that I've been in for the past six months where I do have very good reason to believe that

00:30:03 Alito is going to be the next to go. You don't know that. If I heard there's a retirement

00:30:12 announcement from the bench, I'd say, which one? Sotomayor's not in good health. Thomas is the

00:30:18 oldest. I don't know who it is. Just because I've been told Alito is thinking about going and is

00:30:24 probably the next to go doesn't mean it happened today and they just announced it and from that

00:30:29 she went to the npr editors and they they hit print on one of the golden cows of reporting

00:30:37 they were like we've got it queen nina yeah i mean there are so many things about that that are

00:30:43 the that are remarkable first of all how does somebody who you worked in that beat for three

00:30:48 years, you said? Yes. You have sources, I'm sure, that could help you confirm or deny a story like

00:30:56 that, right? How does this person not have somebody that would pick up the phone if she

00:31:03 called to help her confirm or deny that story? How did the editors not instantly reject that story

00:31:10 when they they weighed in. The editors said they trust Nina implicitly. She's so holier than thou

00:31:19 over there, Matt, that they they just trust Nina now. And they said because she said it was an

00:31:27 announcement as opposed to like, I have an inside scoop. I've got a source telling me they didn't

00:31:33 use their like emergency backup system of like triple checking all stories before they go on

00:31:38 the air because she told them there was an announcement from the bench, like from the

00:31:43 court, which is so crazy. 0.63

00:31:46 I'm telling you, either Nina Totenberg has dementia or some sort of brain disease that's

00:31:53 causing her to behave in a very bizarre way, or this is a lie, or she's so just generally 0.98

00:32:00 incompetent, she must be fired.

00:32:02 This is absolutely a fireable offense, even for a Nina Totenberg who's been there for 0.99

00:32:07 50 years.

00:32:07 I'm sorry, but this is totally humiliating for NPR.

00:32:12 I was saying yesterday, it's akin to reporting the Pope has died when he hasn't died.

00:32:16 You know, like it's that level error and NPR has no satisfactory explanation.

00:32:25 Oh, and by the way, Matt, the other piece of this is she she reported the NPR reported his stepping down with its typical bias.

00:32:37 right? It's the headline was, hold on, I think I have it here. Here it is. The headline is

00:32:42 Justice Samuel Alito, who wrote the opinion overturning Roe v. Wade, retires. What did

00:32:49 Nina Totenberg write when Ruth Bader Ginsburg died? Justice RBG, champion of gender equality, 1.00

00:32:56 dies at 87. Notice any difference in the tone there? So, I mean, I don't think it was her bias

00:33:03 that led her to report that Alito was retiring when he wasn't. But she's got a history of not

00:33:09 calling it straight. And by the way, she's made errors, too. She's the one who reported that

00:33:13 Justice Gorsuch had refused to put on a mask when the chief justice asked him to around the COVID

00:33:19 time and that Sonia Sotomayor was so offended she didn't participate in oral arguments in person

00:33:26 that she did it remotely. And she was wrong. She was 100 percent wrong. She was so wrong that both

00:33:31 justices, Gorsuch and and Sotomayor, issued a rare joint refutation of Nina's reporting.

00:33:40 She's had other things that she's just gotten egregiously wrong. This woman's been getting a 0.99

00:33:43 pass for far too long. She's passed. She's passed her her journalism prime, as these mistakes are 1.00

00:33:49 proving. I mean, it's really incredible. And I mean, I think you you could speak to this, too.

00:33:55 it wasn't that long ago where the the the guiding principle of pretty much everybody who had any

00:34:04 kind of reporting beat in in media was to avoid the big face plant uh when you did a story the

00:34:11 your main motivation was to not screw it up uh that was the first second and third things that

00:34:17 you worried about uh was you know what will happen if i get this wrong uh this could end my career

00:34:24 this could you know lead to a lawsuit it could all kinds of problems could happen now it's become

00:34:30 incredibly common for newspapers to make mistakes and either not own up to it at all not issue a

00:34:38 correction not issue an explanation um or simply uh give an explanation make a correction and have

00:34:47 there be no consequences for for it whatsoever uh people make make mistakes and nothing happens

00:34:54 now which is um sort of an extraordinary thing think of all the people in the wmd episode who

00:35:00 got uh things wrong and were promoted as a result of it and this is this is how that happens

00:35:08 i just can't stress enough how you understand that is plutonium you're handling if you get

00:35:16 news like that as a Supreme Court reporter. Like, holy shit, there's only nine of them. 0.99

00:35:21 The retirements are spaced out by years. It's a huge deal when there's a vacancy on the high 0.98

00:35:27 court. If you get a scoop like that, it has to be handled so carefully, so professionally,

00:35:32 so responsibly. And you would never go to air with it unless you had it cold. I mean,

00:35:39 I would not go to air with that unless I heard it directly from the justice or the justice's

00:35:43 spouse. That's it. That is the only two people who could make me do it. Not even another justice

00:35:49 could convince me to do it. And so for her to say, I misheard from the bench that there was

00:35:58 a retirement announcement, period, not even about a justice, nevermind this justice. And

00:36:05 it was she it's just insane i can't get past it so enter of it i'm sorry the the the speed is

00:36:12 fascinating like that's a huge story it would take more than you know a little bit uh for to

00:36:20 to get that on air in a normal situation you'd have to double triple check it the editors would

00:36:25 demand certain steps uh be taken uh but it sounds like uh you know they managed to she went from

00:36:33 hearing that or allegedly hearing that to going on air with it relatively quickly.

00:36:40 Yes, her explanation yesterday was that she then spoke with her intern who was at the court with

00:36:48 her and NPR executive editor Krishnadev Kalamer and told them what she had heard. Kalamer surfaced

00:36:56 the story that NPR had previously prepared for the day Alito did announce his retirement and

00:37:00 publish it it's not unusual to have one in the can for all nine justices like god forbid they die

00:37:05 or they retire so like the background had already been written that's normal but nobody questioned

00:37:10 her and the the producer here that the calimer i guess it was the editor talked about he said

00:37:17 she's the preeminent supreme court reporter in the courtroom so i'm assuming that's what she heard

00:37:24 she's in the room uh so he it was complete deference to her blind deference which is very

00:37:32 dangerous as they just learned the hard way let me tell you what paul farhi is saying he

00:37:39 wrote for a long time for the washington post and was like their chief media uh reporter slash

00:37:44 critic and i when i saw this explanation yesterday i mean my jaw dropped and i tweeted out or posted

00:37:52 on x omg npr posted an article by nina totenberg reporting that alito's retirement retiring and 0.56

00:37:59 then within minutes retracted escotis denied total shit show that was actually before i'd

00:38:03 seen the explanation he responds so npr made a mistake recognized its mistake and corrected it 0.57

00:38:10 within minutes what would you have them do other than not making a mistake that

00:38:16 i i i that that is a literally unbelievable thing for uh you know for an experienced media reporter

00:38:29 which paul farhi is i mean um i was briefly away at uh from rolling stone when they made

00:38:36 the error that nearly destroyed the entire organization you know the uva rape story uh

00:38:44 You know, some of my favorite people were caught up in that disaster.

00:38:50 People, you know, I'd known for years and it was universally accepted in the media business that it was, you know, it was a mistake to just simply trust the reporter, you know, absent some kind of verification.

00:39:06 And, you know, it was considered a kind of a warning tale or a cautionary tale for editors that, you know, this is what can happen if you place too much stock in what your reporters tell you.

00:39:23 You've got to get some kind of confirmation that satisfies you.

00:39:27 so you know here you have a complete systemic breakdown and you know the washington post

00:39:34 media reporter isn't interested in that and and what the process that npr like that's that's

00:39:40 incredible it also speaks to what must go on at the washington post too yeah and you know it's

00:39:47 quick to defend it like oh what would you have them do like like it's just another like it's a

00:39:51 error they made on some math claim. Now, this is this is a massive journalistic fail. Don't pretend

00:39:58 like you don't know that you fully know that. Pull off Paul Farhi. And here's Peter Baker,

00:40:03 the New York Times White House reporter. No one's more mortified by a mistake than a journalist

00:40:09 committed to factual reporting. The best own up to it, correct it and apologize for it,

00:40:14 as Nina Totenberg has done. It's worth remembering a long career dedicated to getting it right.

00:40:18 OK, look, this is not her first screw up. There have been others by Nina Totenberg, always overlooked by her fans because she's an open liberal reporting with a liberal bent with all the right nasty takes on the conservative justices and the beneficial ones for the libs.

00:40:39 So Peter Baker rushes to her defense. But I guarantee you, if I went back and worked at Fox News next year covering the high court and made such a mistake about a leftist jurist retiring when it wasn't true, Peter Baker would not be out there saying, oh, she did the honorable thing.

00:40:56 that's not and that kind of a statement would make a textbook out of you making if you did that

00:41:02 totally right and and also like they're they're treating her quote mistake as if it's like she

00:41:09 got burned by a source it happens like this was such an epic failure she she didn't have it

00:41:15 no one told her that it she made it up we're ignoring the fact that at no point did nina

00:41:21 Totenberg here. Justice Alito is retiring. She made it up and put it out on NPR, went out to

00:41:30 all their radio stations. It stood for much longer in the in the ether than it did on their pages

00:41:35 because they retracted it on their website. But it had already been broadcast because they were

00:41:39 doing live coverage of the Supreme Court. So it got blasted out across the country. I'm sure

00:41:46 there are people today who are still confused and think Justice Alito is retiring. And it's very

00:41:50 telling Matt that at least when she was asked yesterday whether he had responded to her little

00:41:54 apology, the answer was no, he he did not let her off the hook. He's probably pissed off. There are

00:42:00 some who are even speculating maybe this whole thing was a trap. Like maybe he had somebody tell

00:42:03 her or tell a leaker to tell her like maybe some effort to find the Supreme Court leaker. I don't

00:42:10 know what the game would be, but I'm sure he's not happy. Yeah. And he's he would be right to be

00:42:18 upset if that's what the process is. I mean, you mentioned being burned by sources. That does

00:42:27 happen. And that was the first thing I thought of when she was giving that excuse, is that what

00:42:32 actually happened was that somebody she knows and who's been a good source for her, you know,

00:42:40 blew her up. And she's covering for that person by giving the story that's so unbelievable

00:42:46 and embarrassing to her personally that there won't be anybody asking about a source who got

00:42:54 something wrong. But I just don't think that's possible. If you were going to come up with

00:43:00 another story about how it was your fault, you would come up with something different than this,

00:43:07 wouldn't you? I mean, this is just not an adequate explanation.

00:43:11 I'd like to think so.

00:43:13 Yeah, that's incredible.

00:43:14 No, I don't. There's got to be more. There's got to be another shoe to drop here because it's it's I understand she's their gal for 50 years. I understand she thinks she's the queen bee of the high court. I don't think that. But she thinks that even for that level reporter. This is the end. This should be the end of Nina Totenberg's career. It should. I'm sorry she has to go out on this note, but she does.

00:43:41 the only reason you know it won't happen is because she's a leftist at a leftist new

00:43:47 news organization and all these other leftists like paul farhi and peter baker are very quick

00:43:51 to run cover for her you know so they she's she's not getting any of the flack that you would get

00:43:58 or that i would get or that anybody at fox news would get if they had done such a thing it's just

00:44:03 just such an egregious egregious story yeah okay i want to keep going so back to malat kiros okay 0.92

00:44:11 and these democrat socialists because i do i do want to point something out this woman is railing 0.88

00:44:17 about among other things ice she hates ice oh they all all these dsa types want to get rid of ice 0.99

00:44:22 and let me give you a a little a little sampling of that because she sat down with hassan piker 0.99

00:44:29 and give an interview not long ago, SOP 4? 0.94

00:44:32 Abolishing ICE is just one step, right?

00:44:34 I think there has to be an immediate pathway

00:44:36 for every single undocumented immigrant 1.00

00:44:38 that's here in this country today 0.99

00:44:39 that does not require them to shell out

00:44:41 thousands of dollars to go through their process

00:44:44 for it to take decades at a time

00:44:46 to be able to get to citizenship.

00:44:48 An immediate pathway to citizenship.

00:44:51 Immediate pathway to citizenship.

00:44:53 No deportations, no ICE.

00:44:54 Immediate pathway to citizenship. 0.99

00:44:56 So amnesty for all illegals.

00:44:58 at the same time this woman was winning yesterday the mother of sheridan gorman the 18 year old

00:45:06 college student who was killed in chicago on a pier minding her own business with her friends

00:45:11 a couple of months ago shot by an illegal in in the back of the neck as she ran away from him

00:45:18 at like 1 30 in the morning sheridan's mom testified before congress appeared to testify

00:45:24 right before Congress. And this is unbelievable, Matt. Representative Pramaya Jayapal sat down in

00:45:32 front of these angel families because it wasn't just Sheridan's mom. There were some other family

00:45:38 members. Said the following to these grieving parents. Another guy had just lost his daughter

00:45:44 at age 20. Sheridan was 18 and was just killed a couple of months ago. Listen to this Jayapal

00:45:50 I'll speak to them.

00:45:51 She's a Washington State representative. 0.98

00:45:53 Sop 23.

00:45:54 Let me start by offering my deepest condolences to you, Mrs. Gorman, and to you, Mr. Abraham,

00:46:00 for the loss of your children.

00:46:01 As a parent myself, I can think of no greater loss, and I appreciate you being here to share

00:46:08 their stories and their lives with us.

00:46:12 Unfortunately, this hearing is the fourth time in this committee that we've had a hearing

00:46:19 on sanctuary cities, the fourth time. And there's many other things that we could be doing other

00:46:25 than this. I would have loved to have had some hearings on the unconstitutionality of the

00:46:31 president's executive order on eliminating birthright citizenship. She said that to a 0.84

00:46:39 grieving mom and a grieving dad. And then Jamie Raskin comes in to listen to him. Sat 24.

00:46:45 As a father, I, too, know the pain and devastation of losing a child.

00:46:50 And my heart goes out to you and to your families.

00:46:53 Our colleagues are conducting an endless series of hearings on sanctuary cities.

00:46:58 This is our fourth such hearing.

00:47:01 Again, raising, you know, it's a fourth hearing.

00:47:04 This is a lot on this issue.

00:47:06 Mrs. Gorman.

00:47:07 And then Jessica, Sheridan's mom, had the chance to respond and made clear in her comments,

00:47:14 which she clearly ad-libbed this part she wasn't she didn't know what they were going to say

00:47:18 she heard what they said and knew exactly what they were what they were doing listen to her

00:47:24 the story is about my sheridan it's about how failed border policies sanctuary city laws and

00:47:30 twisted leaders refused to cooperate with ice they sent her to her grave and the question before this

00:47:37 committee is painfully simple when did protecting our american citizens stop being your first

00:47:42 priority. And even more important, why did protecting our American citizens stop being

00:47:47 your first priority? I want an explanation. I need one. And I deserve one. And I honestly

00:47:54 can't make sense of it. I cannot make peace with it. And in what world does the child

00:47:59 who spent her life making sure no one was lonely die terrified and alone on a pier in

00:48:05 Chicago? In what world does the girl who saw everyone become invisible to the people in

00:48:11 power responsible for protecting her. This cannot be explained away, and it cannot be buried beneath

00:48:16 a list of unrelated issues that you all paraded before us. Thanks for telling me without telling

00:48:22 me that, you know, you're here, but you don't want to be. This is the fourth, this is the fourth

00:48:27 time you had angel families. Thanks for telling me you don't care. She will always be my sweet

00:48:33 sunshine, and if the people who failed her would rather look away, then I'm really, then I'm asking

00:48:39 the rest of you to look right at her. Here she is. There's she and I. Here she is. This

00:48:43 is the take in the day before she died. Say her name, tell her story, and demand better

00:48:50 because my Sharon Grace Gorman should still be alive and no mother should have to stand

00:48:56 where I am standing, begging, begging elected leaders to value my child's life after it's

00:49:05 already too late I wake up in the middle of the night and I think did my daughter cry for me she

00:49:11 she made it 40 feet she made it 40 feet running for her life did she cry out for me she died on

00:49:19 that pavement by her all by herself lonely looking bleeding on that pavement and I will and I will

00:49:25 never ever rest I don't understand why it's only the Republican side that cares about our American

00:49:31 children and i know that you're a mother i know that you're a father i i deeply value that but

00:49:36 basically what you just did what you said was i'm so sorry for your loss i have a daughter too i

00:49:42 have a son i i feel your pain you don't you don't feel my pain because the next words out of your

00:49:47 mouth were but there's no but when your child is in the coffin incredibly powerful and how

00:49:56 inappropriate of these Democrats, Matt? Yeah, I mean, this is one of the mysteries to me of

00:50:04 what's happened to the Democratic Party in the last 20 years is there seems that they seem to

00:50:12 have lost a sense of how they sound to ordinary people. They they have decided that certain

00:50:22 messaging imperatives are more important than seeming human uh at times um i don't in any way

00:50:30 want to compare my situation to what happened uh to ms gorman but um when i testified before congress

00:50:36 um the the behavior of the democrats was so unbelievably disrespectful uh that they

00:50:46 they gave an enormous boost to people who were against internet censorship just by being

00:50:53 unattractive characters on camera and it it's so strange for a politician not to be conscious

00:51:02 of of how uh obnoxious it sounds when you don't do the obvious thing which is just to sit there

00:51:11 and listen. If you have objection to the policy, you can make it later. But don't be disrespectful

00:51:17 to somebody who is grieving and emotional. How is that ever going to help you politically? I just

00:51:24 don't understand that kind of behavior. And good for Jessica for calling them out on it. She made 1.00

00:51:32 that a very powerful moment that is tough to forget. Matt, it's great to see you. Thank you

00:51:38 so much for coming on. Come on again soon, would you? Thanks so much, Megan. Take care.

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00:53:20 All right, full-time thoughts. Craig, who stood out? Brazil's lime cheesecake started bright,

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00:53:48 check out Footy Prime Daily. Joining me now for the first time is Rob Finnerty. Rob is a long-time

00:53:57 journalist and TV host. He's currently the host of Finnerty at 8 p.m. Eastern each weeknight on

00:54:03 Newsmax. Now, before I bring him on, I want to show you how Rob first came to my attention. I

00:54:08 mean, I heard of him prior to this, but this is when I knew I was in love, that I had found

00:54:11 a compadre out there in the ether with whom I shared an affinity for mocking people

00:54:18 and other things. Watch this clip. We played it on this show when it happened. Watch this.

00:54:25 On another note tonight, the New York City mayoral debate last night, but I'm less interested in what the candidates actually said.

00:54:31 And I'm more interested in why we keep doing this.

00:54:35 Government affairs reporter Melissa Russo, senior politics editor at Politico Sally Goldenberg and Telemundo 47 anchor Rosarena Breton.

00:54:43 This is a two hour debate.

00:54:45 All right. So we have talked about this and I don't just I just don't get why we do this, who started it, when this started.

00:54:52 but whenever it is a Spanish name, we are all suddenly required and expected to shapeshift

00:54:57 into the perfect Spanish accent. Normal, everyday news people do it all the time.

00:55:03 They forget years of training. They forget their non-regional diction.

00:55:06 That Telemundo anchors, by the way, Rosarina Brenton. Just say Rosarina Brenton.

00:55:11 But for whatever reason, we all feel the need to pronounce it like we're living in Mexico,

00:55:14 like we're living in a country where Spanish is the native tongue. That's not the case here in

00:55:18 the U.S. He said it. I couldn't understand what he was saying. As I've said before, I am Irish.

00:55:26 And if I was moderating that debate with the host to introduce me as Robert James Finnerty,

00:55:32 don't you know the little lad that he is, Robert James Finnerty. If the host was Chinese, 0.92

00:55:39 would they then introduce that person with a Chinese accent? I don't think so. So stop doing 0.95

00:55:44 it when they're Spanish. Just stop it. Also, we don't need to say all three names when they are 1.00

00:55:50 Spanish. No one describes me as Robert James Finnerty. I'm just Rob Finnerty. We don't need

00:55:55 to say Kilmar Abregu Garcia. It's just Kilmar Garcia. I don't know who started this, but

00:56:00 enough's enough. Stop. Just stop. I love you, Rob. Thanks so much for coming on. I am your

00:56:10 ardent fan you are hilarious thank you megan uh that you know my producer in my ear actually had

00:56:19 to say to me don't say anything in a chinese accent right in that moment because you've been

00:56:24 there you've been there live tv i thought about it i considered it and i if you watch it again

00:56:29 yeah there's a little spot i didn't do it so that's probably a good thing i did what i was

00:56:35 like oh he's thinking about it thinking about it i thought you get canceled for that like shane

00:56:39 Gillis. You're not allowed. I guess you can do the Irish accent. You can do the Latino accent,

00:56:43 but you can't do the Chinese accent. It's one of the unwritten rules. 1.00

00:56:46 We're not there yet. Maybe one day. And I'm tempted to do it now, but I'm not going to.

00:56:52 I so agree with you. I had made these points to my team in the past, you know, like, look at it.

00:56:57 I definitely mocked the Telemundo anchor, but never so effectively. You did it so well. Are

00:57:02 you good with accents? Have you have you historically been good with the accents?

00:57:06 um oh uh i did i did do a little bit of theater when i was younger um and i never thought this

00:57:14 would i mean i would go from like hockey practice to rehearsal when i was in high school which is

00:57:20 a little different i guess i didn't think i'd be talking about that today but i'm fine with it

00:57:23 um that it's helped me my mom would say oh it's building character and i'd be like mom when do i

00:57:29 get to use said character uh i guess in that moment and sure enough look at you now using

00:57:35 out on the airwaves to make us all happy as we watch things like the telemundo debate yes um

00:57:40 it was ridiculous that that was the new york debate uh right that was the um what debate what

00:57:45 it was the who is debating it was the new york mayor uh candidates right it was zora mamdani

00:57:50 back during those days because curtis lee was out there but we were mocking remember fox

00:57:56 partnered with i think it was telemundo again on their presidential debate and there was that

00:58:01 one third anchor with Martha and Brett, who is from Telemundo. And of course, everything she

00:58:08 said, Ann Coulter later joke that you needed captions to understand what she was saying.

00:58:12 But we had to do the triple name is like, it's a lot, you know, Kilmar Abrego Garcia. Why are

00:58:18 we affording him all the respect? I understand how Spanish names marry the mothers and the 0.64

00:58:22 fathers, but it's like, we're in America. You pick your top two. That's all you get.

00:58:27 no especially when it's Kilmar Obrego Garcia who shouldn't even be in this country like why are we

00:58:32 honoring this man like bestowing all three names on him it would be like if I called you Megan

00:58:37 middle name Kelly Esquire we just we don't do that but whenever it's a Spanish or Hispanic name

00:58:44 for whatever reason like I said we feel the need to like shape shift and and bestow all this title

00:58:50 on people but if it's an Irish name like me like Robert Finnerty or Megan Kelly don't you know

00:58:55 we never do that we don't do it we don't do it when it's somebody who's chinese or japanese or

00:59:00 whatever it's just it's like this it's a weird thing the left started doing and everybody in

00:59:05 the media especially local news and i can say this because i was in the local news for a long time

00:59:09 they all do it and they all like pride themselves on it they're all like you see what i did during

00:59:14 the commercial break and you're like yeah why did you do that you know it's a pander it's a blatant

00:59:19 pander we've been seeing a lot of it lately i was just talking about taibi about about how craig

00:59:23 Melvin gave a little like trigger warning before he used the term biological boy and girl before

00:59:31 reading the Supreme Court opinion yesterday, basically chastising the U.S. Supreme Court

00:59:36 for using sex based descriptions of gender. It's like they've lost their way that he wasn't the

00:59:44 only one. There was more that went down yesterday on the Supreme Court and the way that they were

00:59:47 talking about it. Here, listen to NBC's Kelly O'Donnell, who's upset about President Trump

00:59:54 in the wake of the Supreme Court opinion on girls sports and keeping boys out of them. Stop 28. 0.99

00:59:59 So for the president, this will clearly be a case that he will cite as a victory. He has

01:00:05 talked about it as a cultural issue. It's been a big part of his discussion on the campaign trail.

01:00:10 He often sort of boils it down into bumper sticker language, talking about transgender

01:00:16 athletes and that that's universally bad. That's his interpretation of it. It's obviously much

01:00:21 more complex. It's an area of American life where there are very deeply personal issues,

01:00:27 especially when it's involving minors, religious implication, all kinds of things that make those

01:00:31 cultural issues such hot buttons when it comes to how they interface with politics and with

01:00:38 moments like this. It's a shame on President Trump for boiling it down into bumper sticker

01:00:44 language rob and it was all her opinion and and the craig melvin i don't know if you think craig

01:00:50 melvin when i saw that to me that read as an ad lib or something he decided he was going to do

01:00:56 right before the segment um when he said you know biological male biological woman and we're just

01:01:01 going to use this this language and be aware this is the language that's in the opinion and in the

01:01:06 decision um i think he made that decision in the moment and kelly o'donnell i can remember she's

01:01:10 been there a long time i used to have a lot of respect for her she i don't ever think my grandmother

01:01:17 would say i want the news to be the way it used to be and that's right down the middle and i would

01:01:22 say mama walter cronkite used to sail with the kennedys all right it's never been right down

01:01:26 the middle um and kelly o'donnell is one of these she's one of these reporters that's been around

01:01:31 since the world was flat and i used to have a lot of respect for her um but over the last really in

01:01:36 the last 10 years since donald trump it's become clear that every report that she does and i mean

01:01:41 every is now just her opinion about whatever she's talking about yes there's more from her

01:01:48 wait listen to sat 29 and while laura talks about the broadness of this it is also uh notable that

01:01:56 it is narrow in the sense of the numbers of transgender athletes who are seeking to compete

01:02:01 that that is a very small pool in many ways. Honestly, we've heard this from all these leftist

01:02:08 reporters yesterday, Rob. It's just like just a handful of trainees out there who are trying to

01:02:12 steal girls medals. Stop worrying about this so much. Meanwhile, I read yesterday from an article

01:02:17 in Out Sports, which is all about LGBTQ people in sports, saying they think they have no way of

01:02:24 knowing, but there are tons of athletes who haven't actually come out who are trans at the college

01:02:28 level and they put it at tens of thousands in the high school level. So like it's just not true.

01:02:35 It's not true. They went off some some NCAA official saying there's only 10 out trans people

01:02:41 in the college level that we know about. That's not true either. But that's what all these leftists

01:02:45 pin their hopes on to diminish the fairness rights of girls nationwide. And that's totally 1.00

01:02:50 disingenuous. And it's a lie. Think about Leah Thomas at UPenn in Ivy League school. She won

01:02:56 a national championship. Sorry, he won a national championship in swimming at Penn. So even if it

01:03:01 was just one, this person won a national championship. I had Peyton McNabb on the show

01:03:06 last night in high school. She was a volleyball player. Lovely young woman in 2022. Some guy 1.00

01:03:12 who was like six foot three, dressed up as a girl playing volleyball, spiked a ball right into her 1.00

01:03:18 face. She was unconscious for more than a minute, had to go to the hospital, suffered a traumatic

01:03:22 brain injury she was in the hospital for more than a few days she's thankfully fully recovered

01:03:27 but even if it is just it's the same thing with the illegal alien argument oh you know Sheridan

01:03:32 Gorman well that's just you know that's a one-off that's just an isolated incident first of all no

01:03:36 it's not but when it comes to men playing in women's sports even if it were just a few which

01:03:41 of course it is not that's no excuse that doesn't make it any better Leah Thomas took that national 0.50

01:03:47 championship that division one national championship away from a real biological woman

01:03:52 yes 100 right and yeah we love peyton mcnab she's she's one of the reasons we got the decision we 0.98

01:03:58 did yesterday she stood up and she said no none of this bullshit stop stop stop um okay thankfully 0.83

01:04:04 today is july 1st and i think we're all heaving a sigh of relief because pride month is officially 0.97

01:04:10 over and no no one no one wanted any more pride month no sane person wanted any more pride month 0.88

01:04:16 Because because of displays like this one here is this is from New York City from the Dyke March. 0.60

01:04:24 You may have missed it, but it happened last week. 0.62

01:04:27 top 30.

01:04:53 James Calrico would be proud.

01:04:55 They're wonderful.

01:04:57 James Delarico. Yes. Wonderful. The streets of New York. That was just one example. There's

01:05:04 plenty more. This one is, let's see. Oh yeah. This is Washington Square Park. This was disgusting.

01:05:12 We saw this all over New York where the new thing is to climb trees or poles and then twerk

01:05:19 in the most X-rated way possible. Here's SOT 31. And this is also from, this happened just over

01:05:27 of the weekend. I think it was Sunday.

01:05:32 And the lamppost.

01:05:51 I bought a lamppost! 0.73

01:05:55 They're throwing bottles of cops. 1.00

01:05:57 yeah so it's it's going really well the pride celebrations were exactly what we anticipated

01:06:08 they would be so megan two observations from pride 2026 and i'm i'm so happy that it's it's

01:06:14 july 1st now but this first of all it's getting worse and more perverted and more sadistic every

01:06:19 single year uh when gay marriage became legal i think it was 2015 barack obama pride was like 0.96

01:06:27 I can remember my local news station. They wouldn't let us get political at that time,

01:06:30 but we were required to be a part of the pride celebration in Tampa, Florida. And all the anchors

01:06:36 had to be on the pride float. I remember I asked my former CNN producer, now news director,

01:06:41 how this is not political. And she said, it's just pride. You're celebrating people coming

01:06:46 out of the closet. And I said, well, yeah, you know, I don't want to lose my job. But I was

01:06:49 like, you're celebrating what people do. You're celebrating what people choose to do behind closed

01:06:53 doors what they choose to do in the bedroom and nobody celebrates what i do in the bedroom i wish

01:06:58 they would have a parade for it they never will okay but but for whatever reason we are all required

01:07:04 to honor and celebrate what these people do and and if you look at pride parades in in 2013 14 15

01:07:10 they were they were a lot calmer um i lived in boston and i saw one and i was younger and i

01:07:17 remember it was santa claus whipping reindeer and the reindeer were men and i remember that

01:07:20 was the first inkling i had that hey wait a second maybe this is more than just like i had the

01:07:24 courage to come out of the closet to my parents um but then the other part of this is the violence

01:07:29 this year we saw that the media won't cover it they do what they always do and that's cover it

01:07:33 up but these are all very violent by and large and in seattle this past weekend pride went out

01:07:40 with a bang there people got arrested uh independent journalists that were covering it

01:07:44 got attacked and then the people that did it who were also pride slash antifa they were arrested

01:07:49 So these are also very, very violent events by and large.

01:07:54 It's like you're right, because there seems to be like an increase, like the hockey stick in perversion and criminal behavior at these events.

01:08:03 And like the country's not in the mood for it.

01:08:06 Notwithstanding what we saw in Minneapolis, we covered this yesterday morning on our AM Update podcast, which is just news headlines in Minneapolis. 0.98

01:08:13 they're bringing back public bath houses for sex romps amongst gay people. Like that's the open 0.91

01:08:22 goal of it. And they think if you have a judgment on it, you're a homophobe. You're a bigot.

01:08:29 I don't understand why gay men can't have sex in their own houses and apartments like everybody 1.00

01:08:36 else. Why does it have to happen at a public bath house? These things used to be prevalent. 1.00

01:08:41 They were banned in the 80s amidst the AIDS crisis.

01:08:44 And here is a local lawmaker in Minneapolis trying to justify why you and I and all the

01:08:51 other citizens should be in favor of this.

01:08:54 Listen to this.

01:08:55 I think it's important to address this, the weaponization of hyper sexualization of our

01:09:01 queer communities as a means to also bring forward repressive policies that limits their

01:09:07 existence and their ability to be in community with each other.

01:09:10 The idea that this policy has been repeatedly framed as facilitation of brothel or sexual activity as if folks just want to go out and have sex, which, you know what?

01:09:21 Maybe that might help actually bring more joy into our city.

01:09:27 But to say that this policy is essentially the facilitation of legalizing brothels is not what's happening.

01:09:36 Well, Robin Walmsley.

01:09:39 Go ahead.

01:09:39 Yeah, it's actually exactly what's happening. It's it's in community. Look, I have no problem with people having, you know, having sex with each other, as long as it's consensual. That's, that's, that's a wonderful thing. I agree with the last part. Terrific. Fine. But when she when she all right, all right, I'm pro. But when she says in community with one another, she's referring to gay sex. And you're exactly right. It was in the mid 1980s in New York, Ed Koch, the mayor, then who was a gay man, closed these in New York City, because so

01:10:09 many people were getting AIDS and we didn't have a cure for AIDS. We don't have a cure for AIDS

01:10:13 today. You can live with it and you can test negative for it and you don't necessarily pass

01:10:18 it on to your partner. And that's a wonderful thing. But like this is still a very serious

01:10:21 disease. And part of the reason these closed in the 1980s in cities across the country

01:10:27 is because there was no way. Think about a restaurant, for example, if the Board of Health

01:10:32 wants to go in and find you, they can go in and say, hey, look, you put the buffalo tenders in

01:10:36 the same fryer as the fish you can't do that and you get a fine or they look at your bathrooms and

01:10:40 they look at the kitchen cleanliness and that sort of thing there was no real way to do this so there

01:10:45 was a ton of corruption and a ton of illegality and a lot of these there they were trafficking 0.98

01:10:50 minors in these brothels for gay sex and that's just a fact it makes people uncomfortable in the 0.90

01:10:57 city of minneapolis but that is just a fact and i'm just wondering if like somebody is seriously 0.98

01:11:01 going to apply for a license to like reopen one of these in downtown Minneapolis. Yes, it's

01:11:09 happening. By the way, Brian Cole Coyle was one of the councilmen who voted to close these clubs

01:11:17 in Minneapolis, like did not think that the bathhouse was a good idea. He was gay and he 0.98

01:11:24 would later die of AIDS. He recognized this is not a good idea. We should not be encouraging 0.83

01:11:28 this kind of behavior amongst strangers in a bathhouse in public in Minneapolis. And so now

01:11:37 we're going there again because we have medication that can suppress the HIV virus such that it's not

01:11:44 as easily transmissible in sexual acts. But this woman is actually out there saying maybe we should

01:11:51 be encouraging public gay sex because it creates joy for them. And then you hear at the beginning 0.99

01:11:59 of her soundbite, she said, we are, we are weaponizing the hyper sexualization of gay 0.96

01:12:05 people. Like they are hyper sexual, she's saying, and we're weaponizing it by objecting to public 0.88

01:12:12 sex in bath houses by them. This is insane. Straight people don't need to have sex in public 0.97

01:12:19 in a bathhouse or anywhere else. Why do gay people, why, why is it, why am I a bigot if I 0.99

01:12:25 don't want to walk down the street with my kid past a bathhouse where we know there's a bunch 1.00

01:12:30 of gay sex happening inside? Right. Exactly. Right down the street from a school and a police 1.00

01:12:34 station. And then where's the line? What's next? Do they want to make prostitution legal in a place

01:12:40 like Minneapolis? I mean, that's, that's what this opens. Yeah. For the, for the joy. No, 0.98

01:12:44 this is for the joy. And by the way, I, again, I'm, I think it's wonderful that they have treatment

01:12:49 for hiv and aids um they didn't have that you know 45 years ago when it broke out in the late

01:12:55 1980s and millions of people lost their lives and that's a tragedy and they have that now and

01:12:58 that's great but if you look at these commercials again i will be with my children we will be

01:13:03 watching like a baseball game and it'll be a commercial where they're they're not normalizing

01:13:08 treatment they're normalizing hiv aids and somebody's like on a kayak and they're like

01:13:13 sitting in a jacuzzi and they're at like an art class and a yoga class and that's all terrific 0.79

01:13:18 but the message should still be practice safe sex, right? Like, are we still at that point?

01:13:23 I think we should be. Yes, absolutely. And here's here's this. There's an op-ed in the

01:13:29 Minneapolis Star Tribune, which is a far left paper. And the opinion is why repealing Minneapolis's

01:13:36 bathhouse ban could be a public health win, could be could be a big win for public health. Oh,

01:13:43 I'm sure it will be. They've lost their minds. This is Tim Wall's estate, of course, and Jacob

01:13:47 Fry's city and Jacob Fry's been all over the media celebrating this does not feel like a step

01:13:53 forward to me. On the subject, well, of what we were discussing, Jussie Smollett is back in the

01:14:01 news, Rob. Jussie Smollett showed up at a Harlem, I guess it was Pride Fest because he was in Harlem

01:14:08 dancing with some other gay men. And here's what that looked like. And listen to the lyrics if you

01:14:15 can hear it here. It's not 32.

01:14:45 okay he wants you to know he ain't hurting no more from i guess all the terrible abuse we've

01:14:56 heaped on him unjustly i ain't hurting no more um not a bad dancer by the way like that's that

01:15:03 takes some not a great one though no no not great better than you and me i'm sure yeah like

01:15:08 you still have to i'm gonna say i was slightly underwhelmed you have to learn the steps so that

01:15:13 takes i guess that requires some skill um is he is he look he's looking to make a comeback now

01:15:18 i suppose clearly yes and i'm sure he thinks he can have an act too yeah and the two gentlemen

01:15:25 around him not wearing maga hats i suppose uh but this is what i've noticed with the left

01:15:30 i was not a big fan of cancel culture when that was happening i i think that somebody like matt

01:15:36 lauer by the way i matt lauer has been off the grid for 10 years a lot of people have come back

01:15:41 and we're accused of far worse.

01:15:43 There are people out there that, you know,

01:15:46 on one side maybe don't get an opportunity.

01:15:49 And I'm not saying Matt Lauer

01:15:50 needs to come back to the Today Show.

01:15:53 You miss Matt?

01:15:54 Are you thirsty for a little Matt Lauer content?

01:15:57 No, no.

01:15:58 But I just, I think that when you're on the left,

01:16:02 there is no cancellation.

01:16:04 You get to come back whenever you want.

01:16:06 And there's never a cancellation.

01:16:09 Right.

01:16:09 you can pull a whole fake race hoax about being lynched, you know, the noose around the neck and 0.58

01:16:18 doused with gasoline in the middle of the night. You can humiliate Robin Roberts with your fake 0.62

01:16:24 news interview. And she was so gentle with him and so empathetic toward his victimhood.

01:16:29 Yes. And it's no problem. You can skirt, skirt responsibility. He never really had to pay for

01:16:35 that crime. You remember his, I'm not suicidal. I'm not suicidal. He never really had to do

01:16:40 anything as they let him out because of the COVID and whatever. He really never did any time for

01:16:44 that crime. And now you can be the headliner of the Harlem event. And I'm sure he will get scooped

01:16:50 up by some TV show or some movie producer and given another chance because he's a leftist, 0.98

01:16:56 gay, black man who, you know, race hoaxes are acceptable as long as they're accusing, 0.97

01:17:02 you know, MAGA people of doing bad things. And you know this, the media contributes to this 0.99

01:17:06 problem. Robin Roberts, I think she's she's a nice person. I think these people are looking

01:17:11 for these stories. I think she's a nice person. I've met her once. But I think these people are

01:17:15 looking for these stories. And as soon as they see them, they don't ask any actual critical

01:17:19 questions. They hear the story, they read the headline, and then they jump on it and propagate

01:17:25 this. And they are part of this problem. And this cycle, his story was that that two black guys

01:17:31 jumped him when he was leaving, I think, a subway around midnight. And they said, this is MAGA

01:17:35 country. Two in the morning. Two in the morning, even better. And the rest of the media, I mean,

01:17:40 more than half of the media just immediately jumped on the story and thought this was the

01:17:45 worst thing that ever happened without any without asking any questions. And Robin Roberts is part

01:17:50 of the problem. Yeah, no, she fell down on the job. First hour, we discussed how Nina Totenberg 1.00

01:17:56 did, too. I don't know if you followed that at all yesterday, but she reported that Alito's

01:18:00 retiring and he's not. She's the NPR Supreme Court correspondent. Rob, she actually excused her

01:18:05 failure with the following explanation. And she's sorry, whatever she, whatever that she was leaving

01:18:12 the high court after covering it for 50 years, she was leaving the high court and she heard

01:18:16 something about retirement announcements, but she didn't hear the S on the second word. So what she,

01:18:23 what she says she heard was there was something about a retirement announcement.

01:18:30 From that, she reported on NPR that Justice Alito was stepping down.

01:18:35 That's it.

01:18:37 Can you imagine trying to go to your Newsmax bosses and say, I heard I heard two words,

01:18:45 retirement announcement as I left the Supreme Court.

01:18:48 I'm just going to go ahead and say it's Justice Alito.

01:18:50 Let's run with that.

01:18:51 And that's her explanation that she just randomly heard those two words.

01:18:56 nothing about justice alito no name no confirmation from a justice or a source close to a justice

01:19:02 nothing they put it on npr they blasted it out everywhere and she still got her job today yeah

01:19:08 is she still technically with npr she i think she semi-retired from doing the supreme court

01:19:15 correspondent work but it doesn't matter on the big days npr still tweeted it and retweeted her

01:19:20 that's correct right oh and they still use her she was there covering it for you npr yesterday

01:19:24 because it was a big day and she's been there covering the supreme court for ever um but i

01:19:30 imagine this is why npr this is why people don't trust npr this is why people don't trust pbs think

01:19:36 about like when people on the right and and politicians in washington when they say they're

01:19:41 biased uh they're not they're not lying and if justice alito and i saw the supreme court

01:19:46 to your point they immediately acknowledged this and said it's not true which is very uncommon for

01:19:53 the Supreme Court. That's very uncommon for the high court to do. And they immediately acknowledged

01:19:57 it. And nobody else had the story. Just this has-been NPR reporter talking about a conservative

01:20:04 justice. And the story was immediately redacted. And that can happen if you're on the left. If you

01:20:10 do it on the right, if I did it, you've got a good chance of getting fired. That's how serious that

01:20:15 is. Immediately. No questions asked. Your ass would be out of there. So would mine. It would

01:20:21 be an utter humiliation. It's just ridiculous. The double standard. Okay. I want to, I want to 0.99

01:20:27 keep going, but this is a topic shift. We're looking a little bit at presidential politics

01:20:32 soon. By this time next summer, we're probably going to have a pretty good feel for who's running

01:20:36 on team red and team blue. And one of the guys we think is going to throw his hat in the ring on

01:20:40 the blue team is governor J.B. Pritzker of Illinois. He's starting to throw out a couple

01:20:47 of opening salvos, you know, a little red meat for his base. And they include this in SOT 34.

01:20:53 Watch this. The president says the Democratic Socialist, which he says is a nice term for 0.99

01:20:58 communist, as he's been labeling these Democrats since they won last week. He says they're the

01:21:04 greatest threat to the country since its founding. And he said that includes World War I, World War

01:21:08 II, Pearl Harbor and 9-11. The man is continually suffering from dementia. I don't think he really

01:21:16 understands what he's saying. The truth is that, I mean, this is a man who's threatened to jail

01:21:21 the mayor of Chicago, the governor of Illinois. He regularly threatens to go after people and

01:21:28 indeed has used the Department of Justice to go after people. So, you know, he just I think he

01:21:33 has these concepts in his head and he blurts them out without really thinking. So J.B. Pritzker

01:21:42 would like you to know that Trump has dementia. I don't remember him. That's not true. But I don't

01:21:48 remember him speaking up at all about someone who actually was having obvious signs of memory loss

01:21:54 and some sort of brain deterioration. And that was the Democratic president, Joe Biden.

01:21:59 Yes. Yes. How dare you? You don't have a medical degree. I dealt with that for four years. And I'm

01:22:04 not like a Trump sycophant. I think people think, oh, he works at Newsmax. He must be like a total,

01:22:09 you know he's totally in the bag for donald trump not at all but i agree with you donald trump and

01:22:14 i am armchair diagnosing just like i did with joe biden and guess what i can do that because i have

01:22:20 two eyes and a brain i don't have a medical degree but i have two eyes and a brain and i'm able to do

01:22:23 that and i have grandparents that had alzheimer's disease and my mother was a hospice nurse for 30

01:22:28 years does that make me an expert no but it gives me some exposure but i also just live in the world

01:22:32 okay so like everyone else so when you see it you know what it is you might not know the exact

01:22:37 diagnosis, but you know what it is. Donald Trump is fine. Donald Trump has all his marbles. I think

01:22:43 the man probably should sleep more. I think he would benefit from a good night's sleep. I think

01:22:46 he probably would benefit from maybe not being up at two in the morning, calling and texting

01:22:50 reporters and being on Truth Social. And I mean that totally. And his vice president. Exactly.

01:22:55 Okay. But Donald Trump does not have dementia. But this narrative from people like Pritzker

01:23:00 in Illinois, who, by the way, she just called Donald Trump and begged for the National Guard

01:23:03 to save that city that is one of america's really wonderful cities and it's been destroyed by the

01:23:08 crime that's been allowed to run rampant by brandon johnson the mayor and jv pritzker but

01:23:13 the fact that the left is now talking about this and i know that you have a relationship with jake

01:23:17 tapper i don't think jake likes me very much but the man covered up the joe biden health story for

01:23:25 four years right up until that debate then it was okay to talk about it and then he wrote a book to

01:23:29 make money off of that story. And that no matter what, I think that is one of the problems. And I

01:23:35 think the left are still dealing with the same problems that Joe Biden and people like Jake

01:23:40 Tapper and the media left them with in 2024. Well, that's another thing. Yes, I agree with

01:23:46 you. It was very obvious to all the media, including Tapper and everyone else that Joe

01:23:50 Biden wasn't all there. They just refused to report on it because they wanted him to

01:23:53 win the presidency against Donald Trump. But on the Nina Totenberg front,

01:23:57 she wrote a whole book about ruth bader ginsburg and she knew she knew that rbg had pancreatic

01:24:05 cancer and she did not report on it and i mean ask yourself like if you have that kind of a scoop

01:24:10 as a supreme court reporter and you don't report on that like that's a dereliction of duty in and

01:24:15 of itself like the the left hates rbg now because she died in office rather than allowing the seat 0.68

01:24:24 to go up for a Democrat president to choose her replacement. That's how we got Amy Coney Barrett 0.96

01:24:29 and like the Nina Totenbergs of the world decided to cover that again. Do you think they'd do that

01:24:35 for conservative justice? It's like these reporters, they see the world through entirely

01:24:40 different prisms. And by the way, I do wonder, like any reporter sitting there talking to

01:24:46 Governor Pritzker who said Joe Biden has dementia, like Caitlin Collins, would have been a challenge.

01:24:52 they would have been challenged immediately to the point you're saying immediately you're not

01:24:55 allowed to diagnose from the armchair think about jake tapper it's fine yeah think about jake tapper

01:25:00 and laura trump um it was for four years you were kind of you were like fringe if you even

01:25:05 said that uh if you said and by the way joe biden we're not talking about 2024 uh and we don't need

01:25:10 to relitigate joe biden i know but it's so important because this is they they wanted to

01:25:15 run this guy again megan they wanted to run him again if that debate doesn't happen in june of

01:25:20 2024 he's probably the nominee and i still think donald trump beats him in november but he still

01:25:27 would have been the nominee uh they thought they wanted to keep this going whoever was pulling the

01:25:31 strings in the background and this man was not okay in 2020 but he was able to navigate that

01:25:35 election cycle because of the pandemic he was able to literally do interviews from his basement

01:25:41 that's not hyperbole he would set up a zoom in his basement with his wife right next to him

01:25:44 and do two or three interviews a week and he was campaigning covid allowed him to do that and then

01:25:49 he got 81 million votes apparently and he became the president but he was not okay in my opinion

01:25:57 uh mentally cognitively in 2020 let alone 2024 let alone january 2029 if he were to win re-election

01:26:04 you see him at this event um you know last week where they have him out there and he can't he can

01:26:09 barely spit out words and you think that they actually told us this guy should have ongoing

01:26:14 access to the nuclear codes it's crazy all right when we come back we have to take a break

01:26:19 We've got to talk about what's happening at Wimbledon. 0.99

01:26:22 Yes, Wimbledon, I say, because we've not only got Naomi Osaka entering like she's some sort of a queen, 1.00

01:26:29 but Serena Williams in yet another example of poor sportsmanship. 1.00

01:26:35 It's kind of the main storyline whenever she appears.

01:26:38 That's next when we come back with Rob Finnerty.

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01:30:11 So what's happening at Wimbledon with these divas, Rob, is a bit much.

01:30:18 Okay. 0.96

01:30:19 A couple of years ago, we had Naomi Osaka who couldn't perform. 0.69

01:30:25 She couldn't be interviewed by the press. 0.98

01:30:26 She couldn't be asked about why she doesn't play that well on clay.

01:30:29 because it was these nasty reporters trying to get into her head. 1.00

01:30:33 Every other reporter could sit for that.

01:30:35 Every other reporter got asked about their weaknesses.

01:30:37 It's not fun as the journalist to zero in on their strengths.

01:30:40 We always go for the place that hurts.

01:30:41 That's what we get paid to do.

01:30:43 Everyone can take it except for her. 0.92

01:30:44 And then they changed the whole rule where players would now have these mental health

01:30:49 rooms to get ready in before they had to go play and they'd have psychiatric counseling 0.55

01:30:53 if they needed it, all because of this woman. 1.00

01:30:54 Now she arrives to the U.S. Open in some head-to-toe white kimono, trying to look like, I don't know, some sort of a goddess, some sort of a queen.

01:31:09 Now she's leaning into her fabulousness, Rob, and we're all expected to get on board and celebrate Naomi. 0.94

01:31:16 me well it's a no i don't respect naomi osaka at all she's not tough she's weak and only somebody 0.90

01:31:23 who is would walk in needing that kind of attention as opposed to somebody who lets the game speak for 0.99

01:31:29 itself so let's start with naomi osaka you first of all the outfit i mean i you just normally would

01:31:35 wear like your athletic gear when you arrive and you go underneath and you right you get ready and

01:31:41 then you come out and everyone maybe a tracksuit yeah that's what everybody's done but you think

01:31:45 about like, I grew up with tennis stars in the nineties, like Pete Sampras, Andy Roddick, Andre

01:31:51 Agassi. Um, if you go a little further back, like Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe and, and these

01:31:57 people were competitors and Chrissy Everett, of course, of course. Uh, and you can keep going

01:32:02 back. Um, what's her name? The one who married Andre Steffi Graff. Oh yeah. She's a doll. Um,

01:32:08 no, it's, and you look at what's happened and what's changed. They were competitors. You look

01:32:13 at like Rafa Nadal now and I'm not the biggest tennis fan but you can't not watch these people

01:32:17 when they're competing in majors because all they want to do is beat each other and you look at

01:32:21 Coco Gauff and you look at that at the competitors on the women's side I mean really on the men's 1.00

01:32:26 side too and it's just it's like this generation of like little weaklings who can't sit down and 0.57

01:32:32 do a press conference who are making millions of dollars off the court as well in endorsements

01:32:38 and they can't they're not there for the fans they're there look at me flowing robes like how

01:32:43 do you want people to react to that like if i brought my daughter if you were there with your

01:32:46 kids how do you explain that you'd be like well that's just i guess that's what she that's what

01:32:49 they do i guess that she's wearing that so we have to we have to honor her and clap and and

01:32:53 and genuflect as well and bow and curtsy yes naomi osaka was part of the like black only

01:33:01 dinner party that happened during the french open um it's just so outrageous like if you and i had

01:33:08 a whites only dinner party we we if i was in traditional media would get fired you'd get 0.93

01:33:12 fired from news but you can have a black only dinner party because that's a celebration

01:33:16 of you know i guess blackness which is allowed but celebrations of whiteness are not no and she 0.72

01:33:22 was big on the blm stuff but you can't ask her questions about clay and she's shy and she needs 0.82

01:33:29 mental health counseling but she's totally entitled to call all this attention to herself 0.69

01:33:32 in a head-to-toe white kimono as she arrives in Wimbledon. And I guess, are we allowed to

01:33:38 ask about that or not? I'm not clear on the rules on what you can ask Naomi about and what you can't

01:33:44 because we're all just living in her world. And speaking of the weird behavior around the pressers

01:33:52 that follow the matches, Rob, which all of the players do, and most of them dislike, at least

01:33:59 the losers dislike them because you've just lost a match and you really don't want to be asked about

01:34:03 it. It's hard, but it's part of tennis. They all do it. Serena Williams at age 44 decides to try

01:34:11 to reemerge at Wimbledon and look hats off to her. She actually is the goat of female tennis. I think 0.98

01:34:18 her numbers are even better than Steffi Graff's. Forgive me, Steffi, if I'm wrong, but they're

01:34:21 right. They're right. Like, I think they might both have 23 grand slams. Yeah. Crazy ass, you

01:34:25 know, accomplishments, but age comes for us all. And so Serena tries to go back out there and she 1.00

01:34:32 lost. She got, she got her ass beat in her first round and went down and guess what she refused to 0.99

01:34:39 do? The press conference after the fact, which was considered universally bad form by her. 0.99

01:34:47 She's too much of a diva, Rob. She didn't want to have to submit herself to the questions of 0.90

01:34:52 reporters. And there's a report out today that while she was refusing to do that, she was

01:34:57 complaining to the Wimbledon organizers who, since she lost removed from her, the ability to use

01:35:04 five black cars, you know, like the town cars that take you around everywhere where there was one for

01:35:09 her mom. There was one for her sister. There was one for her trainer. She had five. She lost. And

01:35:13 they said, we're no longer going to pay for those five black cars. And reportedly she complained. 0.95

01:35:18 she wanted them throughout the tournament period end of report i'm sick of this woman's diva behavior 1.00

01:35:23 and she's worth not millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars she absolutely is is the 1.00

01:35:28 greatest of all time on the women's side not only that but just as an athlete 44 years old 0.98

01:35:34 they let her come back and she didn't like come back to the phoenix open they let her come back

01:35:39 for the first time the first match she's played is at wimbledon which is one of the most prestigious

01:35:43 tournaments if not the most prestigious tennis event that we have every year um she plays somebody

01:35:50 who has got a 3 and 13 record i think is ranked something like 80th in the world and then there's

01:35:55 that little nearly weak handshake right there that drives me crazy you are a leader you are a legend

01:36:01 in your sport give this young lady a hug i don't know who she is all right give her a hug she just

01:36:06 beat somebody she grew up idolizing watching and someone she probably never thought she would play 1.00

01:36:11 let alone at wimbledon and what does she do she gives you this little this little wet 0.95

01:36:15 flaccid clam thing after the match because you just lost you've got 39 grand slam wins 23 singles

01:36:21 wins you're the greatest of all time give this girl a proper handshake and a hug and and congratulate

01:36:26 her because this is a huge moment for tennis and it's a huge moment in her life whether or not she

01:36:31 ever wins a match again and then at the end walk into that media briefing room drink your gatorade

01:36:37 and give a press conference and answer every single question answer every single question

01:36:43 because this might be your last time doing it go out with grace dignity and style and by the way

01:36:48 if you did that maybe the tournament will give you those five town cars that you don't deserve

01:36:52 and that you don't need anymore gas is expensive all right but maybe they would have but because 0.98

01:36:56 you she handled it like a total loser she handled it like a total loser and it's a shame it's a 1.00

01:37:02 shame and it's bad for the sport yes she's got she's got a repeat problem with bad sportsmanship 0.99

01:37:08 here you're right the the mealy uh handshake with the woman who beat her was 20 year old

01:37:12 australian maya joint um who won and you're right about her ranking i think she's 78th in the world

01:37:17 she's but she beat serena um she's a lot younger a lot younger and people that's why the older 0.88

01:37:24 players don't do well they can't last serena fell apart in the third set that's what happened here 0.61

01:37:29 You know, of course, she's she's 24 years older than this other girl. Right. 0.99

01:37:33 Foreseeable. And by the way, she took the spot of another girl who could have been there ascending in her career. 0.89

01:37:39 Whatever. She wanted to see her name in lights again. She got it.

01:37:42 And then those press conferences afterward are mandatory and she refused to go.

01:37:46 And then it actually came out the Daily Mail's reporting that when Serena tried to come back in 2022, she was beaten there, too, in the first round by Harmony Tan.

01:37:55 And Harmony Tan said that Serena, after the match, right after, blocked Harmony Tan on Instagram.

01:38:03 Like, that's Serena. 0.79

01:38:04 She blocked the girl who beat her. 1.00

01:38:06 She gave the barely-there handshake to this girl. 1.00

01:38:09 She refused to show up at the mandatory press conference. 1.00

01:38:11 She bitched that her five car, town cars, were taken away from her.

01:38:16 And look, who could forget what happened at the U.S. Open?

01:38:19 Was it 10 years ago?

01:38:21 When she berated that little lines judge, remember?

01:38:24 Watch it.

01:38:25 This is the tape is infamous.

01:38:30 Next shot's not going to show us.

01:38:35 That's the point.

01:38:37 That is extraordinary.

01:38:38 So Raymond Williams is giving it to her.

01:38:42 Well, she'll have to be careful here.

01:38:43 She's already had a warning for racket abuse.

01:38:47 Here we go.

01:38:49 And this could be trouble. 0.97

01:38:55 and what she was yelling was reportedly i swear to god i'll effing take the ball and shove it down 1.00

01:39:07 your effing throat to that little lie judge who was like running running from a to b anyway your 1.00

01:39:12 thoughts on her right well um i think that's a felony by the way if she were to do something 1.00

01:39:16 like that i think if she were to do that imagine she did that on the court right there everyone's

01:39:20 like wow this match really um no it's it's too bad i remember in the 1980s uh michael jordan

01:39:26 lost multiple years to either magic johnson or larry bird and also and then the detroit pistons

01:39:32 in the playoffs and you can go back on youtube and watch the press conferences he was dejected

01:39:38 um he was depressed he didn't know if he'd ever make it to the top i'm talking about michael

01:39:42 jordan here and he's sitting here he's taking his lumps he's you know in the media's the sports

01:39:47 media is not they're not great they're hard but he sat there and took his lumps and then he went

01:39:52 on to win six titles and he vanquished everyone including the Detroit Pistons including the

01:39:58 Lakers and the Celtics as well and I look at Serena Williams and it just it bothers me that

01:40:05 these I understand how competitive this is and in that moment I'm sure she was upset but you go back

01:40:11 to Wimbledon Megan and you think about all the people that are there who maybe have never seen

01:40:16 before that are watching. There are probably families. It's a big corporate event, but there

01:40:21 are families there. There are, you know, little girls and little boys there. They're like, wow,

01:40:24 we get to see Serena. We thought she was retired. And then she does that. And it just sort of

01:40:28 confirms in your mind what's been building up for years and years about this woman, that she is a

01:40:33 great, great player, but maybe not a great, great person. And there's a difference. There's a

01:40:38 difference. Totally. There is definitely a sense of entitlement there that shines whenever she's

01:40:43 in the spotlight. Yeah. OK. Last but not least, Dwayne The Rock Johnson has come out to say he

01:40:50 doesn't want to get political. He just wants to act. He enjoys being on the big screen and bringing

01:40:55 joy to people through his acting and his movies. And he thinks that's a gift. And he doesn't want

01:41:00 to get political because he realizes how toxic it is and how it alienates a lot of people. 100%

01:41:07 feel like people on our side of the aisle. That's all we've been asking. We don't we don't need you

01:41:11 to say conservative things or be a Trump supporter or anything. But it's just like, please let us

01:41:16 have the the not knowing whether you hate us or not. That that's we would love to have the not

01:41:23 knowing. Right. Well, that's not acceptable to some. George Takai, the Star Trek guy, he's ripping

01:41:30 on him all over threads. He's very upset with that position. And now Will Wheaton. You don't

01:41:38 know who will wheaton is but i'll tell you will wheaton was one of the little boys from stand by

01:41:43 me he was yes he was like the sweet the sweet good looking one um well so was river phoenix

01:41:49 but anyway uh he's one of the sweet good looking ones great movie by the way he came out great

01:41:55 movie and called duane the rock johnson a coward for this decision so disappointing to find out

01:42:03 that he is such a coward and what duane the rock johnson said was quote what i have learned through

01:42:08 experiences that I need to keep, need, not want to keep the main thing, the main thing. And the 0.95

01:42:14 main thing for me, the thing that in the morning I swing my legs out of bed and I run toward

01:42:18 is creating. It's art. It's storytelling. So I've learned I'm going to keep my politics to myself.

01:42:23 There are moments when, hey, there's nothing we can't talk about. If I'm wrong, I'll tell you

01:42:27 I'm wrong. Or if I feel like I got a leg up and this is the right way to go, I'll share it with

01:42:31 you. But he doesn't want to get into politics because he says, I hate the slinging. I hate

01:42:36 all the bullshit that comes with it. And now he's taking it on the chin from somebody really 1.00

01:42:42 no one's ever heard of. But this small sect of the left, the leftist acting crowd that insists

01:42:49 you're cowardly. The view just had this same discussion about I think it was Keith Urban

01:42:54 who doesn't want to talk about his politics, which, of course, means that he's a conservative

01:42:57 and they berated him for that position. Right. Because they insist or was it Kenny Chesney was

01:43:04 one of the i think it was keith urban um because they insist that you share their politics and

01:43:09 then get vocal about them i love this uh i hadn't heard that the rock it is interesting the rock

01:43:15 does have a movie coming out july 10th i think moana the live action so michael jordan republicans

01:43:22 go to movies too so maybe it's a smart business move on his part um but johnny carson was number

01:43:28 one for something like 30 years because nobody knew his politics he was definitely conservative

01:43:32 from nebraska friends with ronald reagan but that was part of his magic and you look at jimmy kimmel

01:43:37 and and some of the others today and it's so unattractive that half of the country can't

01:43:42 watch them um i wish that people like george clooney would take a page out of the rocks book

01:43:48 and do this as well yeah um because i like so many ben affleck so many of these actors that

01:43:54 i really did like until i found out how much they hate half of the country and it's really

01:43:59 unattractive and for anyone that says that it doesn't impact how you feel about their movies

01:44:03 to me it does now i'll go still i'll see a leonardo dicaprio movie because he's the best

01:44:07 but i'm thinking about it in the movie i will not see a george clooney movie though

01:44:12 me neither i would not say you just did i think he just ben affleck says i was gonna say that 0.86

01:44:17 that netflix movie that i just did was terrible by the way that stupid thing on the train terrible

01:44:20 movie george clooney okay i didn't even see it but ben affleck says he won't even act across 0.99

01:44:25 from a Republican. So good luck. By the way, it was Kenny Chesney. I would submit to you then,

01:44:30 Ben Affleck, you should say no to your next The Rock movie, because I'm just going to throw it

01:44:34 out there. Nine times out of 10, the ones who won't talk about their politics are righties,

01:44:38 they're conservatives, and they know what's going to happen in their careers in Hollywood if they

01:44:42 speak out, unlike Chris Pratt, who was one of the few who were bold and unapologetic about it.

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NPR's Embarrassing Excuse, Another Socialist Victory, and Smug Serena Williams, with Matt Taibbi and Rob Finnerty ｜ Ep. 1351

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