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00:00:42.380Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday and happy June.
00:00:46.940It's June 1st. How did that happen? Great to be here. There is a ton to get to today. We
00:00:52.320hardly know where to begin, including some stunning reports about the frontrunner to be
00:00:56.460the Democrat nominee for Maine's Senate seat. We are going to go through this Graham Plattner
00:01:01.220fake denial like we are FBI agents trying to crack open a homicide case. This guy is lying
00:01:09.160through his teeth. Do you care? That's up to you. But I do care when they lie. You want to fuck
00:01:16.880around on your wife? Excuse me. It's kind of your business. But the lying to my face is upsetting.1.00
00:01:22.900And honestly, this guy is emotionally unregulated. That's what's true. All right. This this June 9th primary is going to happen and he's going to win that. And then he's expected to face off against the incumbent Republican Senator Susan Collins, who, you know, she gets a lot of crap from, you know, diehard righties because she's so moderate.
00:01:46.400People are now ripping her for voting for President Biden's.
00:01:50.840Well, wait, no, for, you know, President Obama's Supreme Court nominees and President Biden's, I guess, too, including Ketanji Brown Jackson.0.99
00:02:04.240It was normal for senators to vote for a president's Supreme Court nominees unless they were really a super crazy ass, you know, leftist or righty being nominated.1.00
00:02:14.140Anyway, Susan Collins is going to have to face off against this guy.1.00
00:02:18.120And this woman who everybody wanted to go farther to the right, do more like more extreme things.1.00
00:02:23.460She didn't because she lives in Maine.1.00
00:03:24.140But if there is any, any whiff of any sort of exploitation of a child, we do need to know that.
00:03:31.780That's a hard no on advancing in American politics.
00:03:35.480So I don't know that there's there is any. I'm not suggesting that I've seen anything, but you shouldn't be on kick.
00:03:42.820You shouldn't be on kick as a 32 year old man. That's what it's known for.
00:03:47.280So we've got a lot of juicy details about the sexting scandal and all this stuff.
00:03:50.980And we got to get into their denials. Also, the cretin Tom Steyer is surging in the race for California governor as voters head to the polls tomorrow.
00:04:00.140This thing where they have to elect the top two happens tomorrow, and he's up there.
00:04:05.720It's basically now Javier Becerra is at the top, and it's a tie, just about, like one point separating them,
00:04:13.940for a second between Tom Steyer and Steve Hilton.
00:04:17.840It could wind up that Steve Hilton is not even in the top two, my friends.
00:04:21.520Don't allow this to happen, California viewers, please.
00:05:31.480The Nerve is fun, and it's all about culture.
00:05:34.780And she's our cultural prosecutor, as she calls herself, and she is.
00:05:39.640She opened The Nerve, the inaugural episode of The Nerve, on Jon Hamm and his alleged severe abuse of a young man in a fraternity hazing scandal.
00:05:54.280that for some reason, Hollyweird has allowed him to escape or ignore.
00:06:00.920Well, you want to get political, John? Let's go. It's on. It's on.
00:06:08.160I cannot believe Tom Steyer didn't at least do a Google search of Jon Hamm
00:06:13.660before selecting him to voice over his campaign ad. We'll get into it.
00:06:19.200Plus, Dr. Jill Biden. And yes, indeed, they are all calling her that. It's so absurd. Dr. Jill is on a media tour ahead of the release of her new memoir tomorrow. And even though she's being treated with kid gloves, it's not going well. It is not going very well at all.
00:06:37.560She went over to the Today Show this morning and like the mildest little questions from Craig Melvin resulted in her getting so defensive, demanding that we see her as inspirational.
00:09:21.000That like after the excesses of the Me Too movement,
00:09:24.080which was more about sexual harassment and abuse than it was about cheating on your spouse. But
00:09:28.500people are just like shy to get into what's happening in a person's marriage
00:09:33.020as a matter of politics. And I think that's right. I think we are very different-minded
00:09:38.460about it in 2026 than we were in 2016 even. However, what Graham Plattner should have done
00:09:46.600was to come out and say, my wife and I had problems in the beginning of our relationship.
00:09:50.620we dealt with him through counseling and that's all i'm going to say about it it's a private matter
00:09:54.660that's it i honestly i would be like get off his back i really would but that's not what he did
00:10:00.820he came out and clearly lied to us and now it's on now it's on graham um because you've been lying
00:10:06.480for a while like you didn't know that was a nazi tattoo that's obviously not true either
00:10:10.320we don't know why he got a nazi tattoo i i'm not i don't think you're a nazi he was drunk on marine
00:10:16.080leave in Croatia, which who among us, Megan? I mean, you know, I've totally, I was like my mom,
00:10:23.200Linda, she got a tattoo when she turned 70. Um, it was of a rosary. Um, I don't think she could
00:10:31.580have like accidentally been inked with a swastika or Nazi insignia, but she probably wasn't that
00:10:37.800drunk. My mom could have been, I don't think she was drunk at all. Um, in any event. So just0.99
00:10:45.920to back up, the Wall Street Journal breaks the story that he allegedly was sexting with some
00:10:52.900number of women post his marriage to his wife, Amy, and pre-launch of the campaign.
00:11:01.860He married his wife, Amy, in late 2023. Definitely in 2023. I think it was late 2023.
00:11:09.540So this is recent history. This isn't like they got married 25 years ago and there was something, like who cares, right? This is a couple years ago. He was a newlywed and he was caught sexting with some number of women, six to 12.
00:11:30.160Originally, the number was 12, and then their defense was, it was only six.
00:11:38.460Note to the fellas at home, don't try this.
00:11:56.160So he, and by the way, one of the really interesting things is the person who outed this, Genevieve McDonald, who did not cloak herself in nobility either, because this woman, the reason she apparently knew that this was true is she is the one who heard it directly from Amy.
00:12:17.520She was running Graham's campaign, and she went to Amy, and I guess Graham, saying,
00:12:23.960if there's anything bad we need to know about, please tell us now so we're not surprised.
00:17:14.160You're in this position because of your own decisions, yours and your very strange husbands.
00:17:18.980So let's start there with Amy and the messaging around all this, EJ.
00:17:22.880Yeah, I mean, you can't, obviously, you can't blame the media for reporting a story about the character of somebody who's trying to win a Senate seat, a competitive Senate seat, nonetheless. So, yeah, that's a little bit of a cop out. I think I heard Plattner also yesterday saying that there was journalistic malpractice at hand. I read both the Times story, the Wall Street Journal story, didn't see anything that really qualified as journalistic malpractice in that.
00:17:46.120But he is a four-time combat veteran and has said that he has PTSD. That's how he explained the Reddit posts. And so I don't doubt that it probably is difficult for any person suffering that much to get help.
00:18:01.020But he also said that he started to get help around 2017 for his PTSD when he was explaining
00:20:52.420But so you're telling me that she's now saying he's in therapy and she's in therapy and they're in marriage therapy and they make mental health a part of every day.
00:21:08.380and we are supposed to believe that he can handle the demands of the U.S. Senate just fine?
00:21:15.140Like, when's he going to go to the Senate between all of his therapy sessions and his mental health
00:21:20.040work? I'm dead serious. Like, all the numerous, you know, meetings he's going to have to have
00:21:25.840and counseling sessions he's having, and what does he do? What does that mean, mental health
00:21:30.260is part of your day? Well, how do you deal with that? Like, I'd love to have a follow-up on that
00:21:33.660Because I would prefer we send somebody who is, it's fine to go through that journey, good on them for working on things.
00:21:40.100Maybe the Senate run should come after that's complete, like closer to complete.
00:21:45.440And I think actually this is an interesting question for some of the progressives who've been very disappointed by John Fetterman.
00:21:50.660Because Fetterman gets into the Senate, and I think he checked himself in for depression, for like an inpatient care for depression for weeks.
00:21:58.780And if you look at what happened to Fetterman, he has changed some of his positions on those issues that progressives cared most about. Like there's a certain kitchen table, progressive economic policies, those sorts of things. He's changed his disposition, his temperament.
00:22:13.660So I think that is actually kind of an interesting comparison. It's that like when somebody is thrust into a job that is enormously stressful and high stakes and they're dealing with significant mental health problems that would go back to being in Ramadi in 2006, where Plattner was, along with a lot of other men who've served the country and have dealt with PTSD.
00:22:33.940I think that's actually a kind of a fair question. I'm with you, Megan. I think at this point,
00:22:38.780most people are so cynical. They've seen a million John Edwards come and go. It's like
00:22:42.840clean cut guys that are supposed to be pastors, basically. And you find out it's not the case.
00:22:49.040And people are desperate and cynical right now in America. It's very much a populist moment still.
00:22:53.860And so they're willing to pull the lever for anybody who's going to throw a wrench into the
00:22:57.220system or challenge the establishment or both. And I think a lot of people see that in Plattner.
00:23:02.160I think he knows that. And I think that's why he's still drawing crowds. I was looking at local news reports in Maine from yesterday. He was still drawing crowds. He was doing campaign rallies with his wife and all of that. So I think that a lot of people are sort of past this. But at the same time, I do think progressives might be asking themselves a little bit of that question right now. They really like Graham Plattner.
00:23:22.400unless they get that uh the main governor who bailed because she had no money back into this
00:23:29.880race within the next week they have no alternative and and honestly what they really want on the
00:23:36.380progressive side is to unseat susan collins and get a senate seat that they didn't have so
00:23:41.440if if i were a democrat i'd say we're gonna have to dance with this guy no matter what his problems
00:23:46.580are we're gonna have to downplay them and get him through tuesday and then you know try to fight
00:23:52.100susan collins as being lame and not relevant and too old for me i mean that's what i do if i were
00:23:56.920democrat um the campaign's response has been to point out in all these articles wall street
00:24:05.860journal and new york times that the the sexts they uh they are from they were found earlier in their
00:24:14.700marriage okay they got married in 2023 we're still early in their marriage who cares like
00:24:21.800it was 2023 and in any event before the campaign was launched that they that they ended before the
00:24:30.160campaign was launched who cares like this is like a made-up artificial date that's supposed to
00:24:37.780tampen down or dampen down the the scandal like well he stopped doing it before he announced
00:24:43.660who cares and also that was like that they're leaning on this that was also like a year and
00:24:49.920a half ago. Like that was not that long ago at all. It's really recent history. Yeah.
00:24:56.340Like this is the same party that's been trying to make Stormy Daniels a thing in our lives for
00:25:03.00010 years. That wasn't recent. Like, what do you, what do you mean? How far do we go back in Trump's
00:25:09.020history? We just had to spend two years talking about fucking E. Gene Carroll. It was 35 years0.98
00:25:14.400ago. Stop. What do you mean? Well, he stopped it before he announced for Senate. So I can't talk
00:25:22.240about it? I don't think those are the rules. How many times was E. Jean Carroll on Rachel
00:25:25.540Maddow? It's not true that everybody on the left has been obsessed with Ken Paxton and Trump's
00:25:30.940scandals and Kristi Noem and all of that. But a lot of people have been and a lot of prominent
00:25:35.560pundits in media who may now be very excited about Grant Plattner and who may now be defending
00:25:41.700Grant Plattner are actually getting a look in the mirror a little bit or finding out what it's like
00:25:46.280when the shoe is on the other foot because Republican voters, many of them, since the0.98
00:25:49.740primaries in 2016 were telling people we no longer care about this character bullshit no matter how0.97
00:25:56.460much others might disagree with it, no matter how much I might disagree with it. They've been saying0.98
00:25:59.780we don't care about it anymore because we don't believe that Jeb Bush is that much better of a man
00:26:04.700as Donald Trump if he's going to, at the time, send people back into the Middle East or if he
00:26:09.360is going to make my life that much harder. We don't necessarily believe that because he has
00:26:13.380led this perfect personal life, he's going to be a more moral president. That goes back 10 years
00:26:19.380for Republicans. You can go back to the Clinton administration and Lewinsky scandal and hear
00:26:23.900Gloria Steinem and other feminists making that case, but it was thrown out the window in the
00:26:28.320Trump era for a lot of prominent Democrats. And now they're finding out that Republican voters,0.85
00:26:33.640the sentiments of Republican voters who said, we don't care about this stuff anymore because we are
00:26:37.280desperate after the Great Recession, after all of these failed wars in the Middle East. Now,
00:26:42.020with the AI boom threatening to displace half of white-collar jobs, we just want somebody who is
00:26:47.140going to metaphorically blow up the political establishment. And it's a lesser of two evils
00:26:52.440voting process for a lot of voters out there now. And now the left is with Graham Plattner
00:26:58.080experiencing a little bit of the Paxton case that Texas voters just reckoned with last week.
00:27:03.080yes yes republicans gave up on this with trump they back in 16 this was a huge debate you had
00:27:09.400all these republicans running as like true conservatives against trump saying like my god
00:27:14.180look at his marital history you know like he's had multiple affairs which he's bragged about
00:27:18.700in the new york tabloids it's like not a secret um and they didn't care and people tried to shame
00:27:25.280the evangelicals into like how could you support him why wouldn't you be for ted cruz and they
00:27:29.820loved Trump. They loved what he stood for. And it was a big deal to have Republicans who were
00:27:34.560always like the, you know, the party of virtue say, we no longer care. We gotta be honest. We
00:27:42.160don't actually care about that anymore. And that was the end of that. So it's like, it's going to
00:27:46.900be tough for Republicans to make this sale too, right? That like Graham Plattner's marital issues
00:27:52.860are, you know, make him beyond the pale. Like Republicans cannot make that point. This is
00:27:58.740going to have to be a Democrat issue. But I do find lying interesting. And here is a whole bunch
00:28:03.860of it. Listen, in my view, listen to Graham Plattner trying to respond to this and speaking
00:28:09.260to the local ABC outlet in Portland. It's no surprise to me that the establishment media
00:28:15.940outlets are just going to run gossip. Amy and I have a very loving and very happy marriage.
00:28:21.620But of course, the powers that be do not want us to talk about that. And so they're going to just
00:28:54.260the messages they did not. I'm confirming that what Genevieve McDonald said in the New York
00:28:59.420Times is not true. So you never met with her about uncomfortable, for lack of a better word,
00:29:05.700sexting messages as the campaign was going? We talked about things in Amy and I's marriage that
00:29:10.960we've gone through over the years. We talked about that because that's our marriage and we
00:29:15.780discussed it with the campaign. What Genevieve McDonald claims isn't true. Okay. Everything he
00:29:22.740said is a lie. It's an obvious lie. It's a dodge. Graham, not it. That was a fail, an utter fail.
00:29:29.800We're not dumb. We're not stupid. I'm starting to think you might be, though, sir. Okay. Tries0.99
00:29:36.600to blame the establishment media as reporting gossip. They got it indirectly from your wife.0.99
00:29:45.160Your wife is your outer. Sorry. She's the one who outed you. That's why we believe it.0.97
00:29:51.100And the person who repeated what your wife told them was at the time she received the information, your campaign manager, someone who at that time at least was loyal to you. By the way, that's another thing that's on you. You apparently chose somebody who's not loyal. And that also is on you as a leader.
00:30:07.580Okay, then he says, then they say, so it's not true? What they reported is not true? No. The Wall Street Journal and the New York Times ran stories without evidence besides what they heard from someone, whoever he said.
00:31:50.360Um, we talked about it. Yeah. So that's eventually he gets to what's effectively an admission.
00:31:56.660I mean, again, here are the two options. You should either just say, I'm not going to answer
00:32:02.560questions about this. Amy and I did go through something at the beginning of my marriage.
00:32:06.900We worked it out and we continue to work it out. We're both happily married. And beyond that,
00:32:10.420it's none of your business. I think most people would accept that. They'd be like,
00:32:13.980you're right. It actually isn't any of my business, but this, this bullshit is just1.00
00:32:19.560going to keep the story alive because Republicans who may not be feeling all that judgy things to0.95
00:32:24.100Trump have no problem amplifying a scandal on the left when it comes to one of the main Senate seats
00:32:32.080the GOP needs to defend. And he just gave them so much fodder. He gave them so much fertilizer
00:32:39.200on those seeds, Emily, which was a massive neophyte error on his part. And I wouldn't doubt
00:32:45.040that there's more to come. It's very early in this race. I mean, it's not even past this technical
00:32:49.820primary, but I would bet there'll be more to come for Plattner. And that's where I've been
00:32:54.280fascinated by this campaign since he launched, because it seems to me like he was trying to do
00:32:58.080a sort of post-Trump campaign where he understood, or his consultants also understood, the value of
00:33:05.820authenticity, even if sometimes it's like performative authenticity, but the value of just
00:33:10.200like getting out there and owning your Reddit posts and being like, hey, I just got here. I'd
00:33:15.220seen a lot of stuff. I was struggling. I wasn't doing well. Yes, I called myself a communist and
00:33:19.360a socialist, but I'm not now. And that's where this would have been an opportunity for him
00:33:26.480to just go in front of the cameras. And instead of denying anything or doing these artful dodges
00:33:32.660that weren't so artful as in last night, he could have just said, people don't care about the
00:33:38.140mistakes I made in my marriage. They care that I am going to make their healthcare affordable.
00:33:42.120They care that I'm going to take on the establishment on X, Y, and Z. I'm going to
00:33:45.780stop these wars. I mean, like, that's what he could have done. He's tried to do a little bit
00:33:49.380of both, as has his wife, who said, I'm very upset that we're talking about this and not the issues.
00:33:54.560But he could have just leaned into it and been like, I'm not even going to talk about it,
00:33:57.440like you said, Megan. And that would have been probably a way better, like, we saw this with
00:34:01.760Tallarico last week. Tallarico tried to do his cleanup tour, and you covered it, where he came
00:34:05.640out and said, of course, I believe that there are only two sexes. He's on tape saying there are six0.75
00:34:10.680sexes, at least six sexes. You can't do that if you're running these new campaigns, because the0.95
00:34:15.680one thing people want to know is that you believe what you're saying that you believe. Like, that's
00:34:21.460the biggest problem for Plattner right now. He needs to come across as at least being honest,
00:34:26.480because once you lose that, they might not trust that you actually are going to make healthcare
00:34:30.560cheaper, that you actually are going to vote against wars. Like, that's how low institutional
00:34:34.600trust is, you have to meet the moment. I mean, there's a difference, too, in my mind, between,
00:34:40.380for example, what that disgusting Republican in Texas did, Congressman, where he was cheating0.93
00:34:46.180with a staffer who worked for him, demanding nudes from her. And this woman's life blew up1.00
00:34:55.340as a result of this affair to the point where she wound up setting herself on fire, taking her own1.00
00:35:01.140life and this congressman took no responsibility, that's a filthy pig. And he was basically forced1.00
00:35:06.680to say he's going to resign. Only after Swalwell fell apart, however, you know, and Swalwell's
00:35:13.240behavior, that's different than just being like, whatever this is, you're sexting behind the back
00:35:18.380of your wife. Again, for the record, not an endorsement. Don't want it to happen. Just saying,
00:35:23.940you know, each of these things has to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. But the way not to handle
00:35:29.620it is to just lie to the public and pretend it's the media's fault. That's not what this is.
00:35:33.960Sorry, you're going to have to deal with it. Now, potentially more despicable than any of those
00:35:40.040items we just listed is child exploitation. Don't know whether Graham Plattner's ever done that at
00:35:47.600all. Needs to be investigated. That actually we do need to know about. I don't know how you get
00:35:53.380on Kik and figure out exactly what interactions Graham Plattner had, but why is a 32-year-old
00:35:59.640man on there, a website that is known for sexually exploiting minors? Here's the Daily
00:36:06.540Wire's reporting on it. It's called A Predator's Paradise. It was created in June of 2016,
00:36:14.260his particular Kik profile. Here's his picture. Look at this. It's disgusting. It's his weirdly
00:36:20.740stout kind of fat body wearing a white towel covering just below the navel. Obviously he0.95
00:36:27.380thinks this looks hot and enticing. I can see the damn toilet. So apparently he thinks he should1.00
00:36:32.920show off the shitter and that's going to entice some lady. Um, you can see all of his tats. So0.99
00:36:38.500you know, it's him and he cut off his head. So he wants you to see his not hot chest. Sorry,
00:36:45.060Graham and his toilet. Like this is all so gross. It's just gross. So he posts this on there. He
00:36:53.180joined in June of 2016. Again, he was almost 32 when he joined. 70% of users on Kik reports the
00:37:01.640Daily Wire are between the ages of 13 and 24. That's, that's a lot younger. You're, you are
00:37:10.160walking into a potentially much younger dynamic there. A Forbes investigation found that Kik had
00:37:17.620a, quote, huge child exploitation problem. The BBC found that the app was at the center of over
00:37:24.4201,100 child sexual abuse cases in the UK between 2013 and 2018, just around the time he was
00:37:32.460joining. It has been described as having, quote, the app, it is being, quote, the app with the most
00:37:40.120severe sexual content. It offers sexually explicit live chats with women. And it's often found at the
00:37:49.620center of sexploitation cases where the predators coax someone into sending nude photos and then
00:37:54.300use the images for blackmail, reported the New York Times in 2016. In 2025, a main man was
00:38:03.300sentenced to 30 to 60 years in prison for producing videos, forgive me, this is disturbing, of children
00:38:10.460being raped and distributing the videos in a kick chat room. On top of this, among his past Reddit
00:38:19.820posts that have become controversial. There was one in 2017 in which he said he had to jerk off0.95
00:38:24.860every time I sit in a quote, port-a-shitter. That whole thing is a quote. Nice. I mean,0.98
00:38:30.160first of all, who does that? And second of all, who posts that? It's just, and I don't want to
00:38:34.820hear PTSD, frankly. I really don't. I know a lot of vets. I know so many vets and I've interviewed
00:38:39.520countless vets and they're not, you know, it doesn't make you perverted. That's not a thing
00:38:44.260where you become just a pervert. You're jerking off every time you're in a port-a-potty and you're1.00
00:38:48.440on inappropriate websites where children like to go? What the F is that? Don't shame your fellow1.00
00:38:53.520veterans by trying to chalk that up to PTSD. And here's another one where he described graffiti of
00:38:59.700a penis as, quote, beautiful and then, quote, engorged and veiny and moving, quote, towards0.99
00:39:06.320its penetrative glory. I'm sorry, there's something off with this guy. This is the stuff1.00
00:39:12.960that would stop me if I were a Democrat who really wanted control the Senate. I'd say no,
00:39:18.120It's a no. I do have some standards. He's disgusting. I'm deeply disturbed. And I know
00:39:22.680I need to know exactly how far he's gone online, when and with whom.
00:39:28.100The kick stuff is where I have no idea what kick is by that description. It seems like a place that
00:39:34.460has a reputation for being just overtly not even just with children, but like very, very sexual.
00:39:40.640So was there overlap between his relationship with his now wife and his time on kick? My
00:39:47.080understanding is that the campaign has said that this was his uh kick profile and he also uh just
00:39:53.060hasn't he deleted the app from his phone long ago it hasn't been active in a really long time so
00:39:57.680there's of course a question about that timeline uh and why he seems to have been spending so much
00:40:03.180time on the internet even just like talking about sexual stuff i mean he talked about everything
00:40:08.660talked about politics talked about drugs he talked about uh all kinds of weird stuff on reddit over
00:40:14.080the years. So I just, he was clearly spending a lot of time online. And I think one of the
00:40:19.040questions, Megan, is did in 2017, when he says he started getting help from the VA, did that
00:40:25.340really, like, is he, like, let's just say, like, I think a lot of people have enormous amount of
00:40:29.780grace for people who served for combat tours. But is he better? Honestly, is he well enough to be
00:40:36.640in the Senate? Is this, would he still be if he weren't running for Senate? Would he be spending
00:40:42.100time posting now, cheating on his wife now. Like, I don't know. It's a bad pattern and it's not that
00:40:47.960far in the past. I do think a lot of voters are just going to say, screw it because they want to
00:40:52.720get Susan Collins out of there. But at the same time, probably other people, you can just not vote
00:40:56.960also. Like for some people, they may just say, all right, I'm out. I don't have a clear dog in
00:41:00.340this fight because I don't know that he's great. And I also don't want to vote for that. So you
00:41:07.280could see that going different ways, especially if there's more to come between now and November.
00:41:10.680Well, if you're a Democrat in Maine or nationwide, especially if you're in leadership, don't you want to get to the bottom of this before next Tuesday?
00:41:20.940I mean, what what if there really is something on there that's absolutely devastating that would make everyone run away from him?
00:41:28.780Don't forget, on the other side of him is not Ken Paxton.
00:41:31.760On the other side of him is going to be Susan Collins, who's totally palatable for most Mainers.
00:41:36.740That's why they've they've reelected her term after term after term.0.97
00:41:40.140Like she's not so far right that she's totally alienating to people who are liberal in Maine,0.87
00:41:45.420obviously. So like if there is another shoe to drop here, I would imagine if you're on Team
00:41:50.940Blue, you want it to drop right now when you could potentially get that Maine governor back
00:41:56.440in this race. And she's going to be on the ballot because she dropped out so late anyway,1.00
00:42:00.200and maybe tried to drive the vote to her. I wonder if that's actually why this went into
00:42:03.820the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times when it did, Megan, because the Janet Mills people
00:42:07.980And Janet Mills, by the way, had the support of Chuck Schumer, had lots of money coming in and endorsements from prominent national Democrats, which after she dropped out, I mean, they thought for sure the Nazi stuff would would cook Plattner, but he got the tattoo covered up and he said, didn't know.
00:42:21.380They never get tired of that trick.0.66
00:42:36.380But Susan Collins is a great retail politician. Like that woman is at every opening. Like she is all over the state. She's brought a lot of money back to the state by being in the Senate over the years. And she can talk to she knows everybody in the state from the sort of main political folks that I know. She's just excellent. That's why she's been able to last so long, because she she travels the whole state, talks to everyone. So that could be a real problem for Plattner, too.1.00
00:43:01.860There's just a lot of built-in goodwill for Susan Collins around the state of Maine.1.00
00:43:06.600That's why they thought they had Sarah Gideon.0.57
00:43:08.580Last time they tried to get rid of Susan Collins, they thought they had it.
00:44:55.660And the I mean, there's a reason that even after however many months that was October when they dropped the opposition research stuff on us and the whole time there was always just like, oh, there's more coming.
00:45:08.520I was like, I don't know, like what this more is going to be.
00:45:11.160So those are more lies, because when he said that, he knew that he had been sexting with six, 12, a baker's dozen, I don't know, number of women, not his wife, with sexually explicit messages.
00:46:33.460But this guy is the one who allegedly threatened Genevieve, the former campaign manager.
00:46:39.240And she said that he wrote a message to her as follows.
00:46:45.500Just want to be clear before these stories broke and where we are right now.
00:46:49.340If the story goes in its current iteration, this is for the Wall Street Journal piece, which was first.
00:46:54.200We'll communicate directly on the record and by name that Genevieve violated the personal trust of Amy and Graham and shared explicit falsehoods to sabotage the campaign.
00:47:06.820She said in her post, that's when I called the New York Times and offered to go on the record.
00:47:22.640Well, pardon the rest of us if we want nothing to do with your marriage. That's the last thing I want for my marriage. And I don't think it's exactly an example. You know, barely married and sexting six to 12 others. And then everyone's in therapy for God knows how long. It's not great.
00:47:40.580The other big races, so that race is going to be, well, the Democrat primary comes up a week from tomorrow in Maine.
00:47:47.720But tomorrow is the big California vote at the gubernatorial level and at the mayoral level.
00:47:55.000That's also got a lot of interesting stuff going on.
00:48:00.020Steve Hilton, who's been in the lead oftentimes by a lot.
00:48:05.280Then it started to narrow. And now he's lost the lead. Becerra is ahead by a couple of points. It's not a huge advance, but he's ahead now by a couple of points. And in two is the vile, loathsome Tom Steyer, only one point ahead of Steve Hilton.
00:48:25.600But Steve Hilton, now we reported this on AM Update, is now begging Republicans in California to not split the GOP vote because Chad Bianco is now in, I think, fifth or sixth.
00:48:35.700He's like, please, with no offense to Chad, you've got to vote for me because we can't we could now be looking at those two Democrats in the runoff with no Republican choice.
00:48:47.880I mean, they're on the cusp of something very exciting in California, and it will be disillusioning if he doesn't cross into the runoff tomorrow, because, again, there's so many people in California, Democrats, independents, who just want something that is not from the left right now in California.
00:49:08.240Because even the anti-establishment left has run cities like Los Angeles into the ground. Karen Bass, not considered to be the most establishment Hillary Clinton type politician. They've seen this over and over again throughout their state. Gavin Newsom tries to act like he's Mr. Progressive.
00:49:25.800Well, look at the record in California for Gavin Newsom. And so there's just so many people who are tired of it. They want something new. It's kind of like what we've been talking about the whole show. They're desperate. They might be Democrats who don't like that Spencer Pratt maybe is, you know, whatever he thinks about abortion, right? They might think it's MAGA. Or with Steve Hilton, they might think he's MAGA, although I think he's handled those questions pretty well.
00:49:47.440But at this point, they're willing to try something different. And it is going to be disillusioning if Steyer, of all people, billionaire Tom Steyer, is the one who snatches it away from Steve Hilton at the last moment.
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00:52:19.600So, E.J., the California race involves—now, separating here, we were on gubernatorial, so we'll stay there for a minute before we just talk about how Karen Bass burned their city down and they're still going to re-elect her.
00:52:34.260At the gubernatorial level, Tom Steyer's now making a run, and unfortunately, he's got momentum.
00:52:39.640You know, he's kind of like peaking right when you want to peak, like days before this primary.
00:52:44.660And what is he doing? What is it that's capturing the hearts and minds of Californians? It's his nonsense, I think, reach out on the trans people in sports issue. Amazingly, this is where the 15 percent of Americans who support that nonsense live.
00:53:02.900You know, it truly is between an 80 and 90 percent support issue to keep boys out of girls sports in America.
00:53:10.360But it is at least an 82 percent who don't want it.
00:53:14.600At least 82 percent have said that they don't want it in poll after poll.
00:53:17.520So where are those, what, call it 18 percent of the Americans?
00:53:28.300In the story in the news all last week was this A.B. Hernandez, who we've been following for quite some time here on the MK Show, who is a boy pretending to be a girl in track and field who has stolen medal after medal of the girls he's competing against, who has broken record after record.
00:53:44.240It's easy when you're a boy in the girls sports. And now it's been the state championship where he again broke records and stole girls medals. And these girls are forced to subject themselves to the indignity of sharing the top riser with him. This one girl next to him.
00:54:01.160I mean, honestly, it's like you'd think this would do it because the girl who seems to have actually won in most of these meets is a beautiful young black girl who is forced to share her award with this white male.0.98
00:54:13.200Hello, Democrats, we're supposed to hate them.0.94
00:54:16.440This is a white male stealing the bragging and other rights belonging to a black female American.1.00
00:58:10.700that we are dealing with a radically left man.
00:58:14.940Yeah, he wants to be your daddy as governor of California,
00:58:17.360but this is the tragedy of California.
00:58:19.380It's the state that used to be the frontier,
00:58:21.320the American frontier, where people could self-actualize and go and have an amazing
00:58:26.940middle-class life. The beginning of LA Confidential makes me so sad. Like, this is a very weird
00:58:31.700reference, but if you're watching the beginning of the film, there's all of these, like, reels
00:58:34.880of how California used to be depicted in the mid-century period. And it makes me so sad to
00:58:40.260look at what California was, what it symbolized to the country. And now it actually is full of
00:58:45.460a lot of people, I think, Megan, your point is correct, who are attracted to what Tom Steyer
00:58:49.820is saying, because we saw what happened during COVID in California. There were people who wanted
00:58:54.040the governor to be their daddy, who wanted their local mayors to be their daddy. Like, they wanted
00:58:58.180security over freedom. And that is so the opposite of what California used to symbolize in the United
00:59:03.620States, what it meant culturally to us, how it was politically. It is the exact opposite. But I think
00:59:09.260that's probably why, to some extent, this is working. Because, Megan, I don't know about you,
00:59:13.340I think Tom Starr is one of the few Americans who believes what he's saying. Like, I think he
00:59:17.540genuinely believes that these athletes should be able to compete with girls. And I think he is of
00:59:23.840the minority. He's so far left and progressive on this question. He genuinely believes what he's
00:59:28.640saying. And there's something when you're in a tight race that's being pulled in multiple
00:59:32.740different directions with failed politicians like Javier Becerra, who lost so many migrant children
00:59:38.460under the Biden administration, under his purview when he was serving in the Biden administration.
00:59:43.840people look at the failed politicians in the race and they say, well, this Tom Steyer guy,
00:59:48.540he shares my cultural beliefs. He's going to protect us, protect California from
00:59:53.060the mean Republicans who want to do us harm. And I want somebody to come in and make me feel
00:59:59.200safer in all of these different ways as governor that aren't typically seen as like government
01:00:05.380duty, right? Like physically safer in certain cases. Like the baseline in California,
01:00:10.480you should be physically safe walking down the streets of los angeles right like you should be0.91
01:00:15.200safe from like some of these fundamental duties of the government which is to keep mentally ill
01:00:20.560people off the streets help them get treatment help them get treatment this is what steve hilton
01:00:25.080and spencer pratt talk about protect them protect them from themselves protect other people from
01:00:30.160where that is going to go but he wants to run the country or he wants to run the state in the
01:00:33.900opposite direction uh and it's all just and it's it's oddly in the name of like personal freedom
01:00:39.220It's this bastardization on the left, right? Like they don't want people to have the sort of basic freedoms like Second Amendment rights and the like. But then when it comes to the personal freedom to be on the street and camping in unsafe conditions for yourself, let alone others, that personal freedom they're good with. And it's the tragedy of California. I think you see it in one candidate here. I mean, in much of the candidates, but he's really crystallizing it.
01:02:54.740No great offense to Ken Paxton and John Cornyn, but I think you said something similar in Texas.
01:02:59.840Like, it happens when you have one party that is really firmly in control of states.
01:03:03.440It's so hard to veer away from this pattern of failure because all of the candidates are part of the pattern of failure.
01:03:10.700And I think that might be working to Tom Steyer's advantage because even though he is a part of the left-wing establishment, just because he comes to the business community, I mean, that man has been intertwined with the NGO world and the Democratic Party now for many years.
01:03:22.560But I think that's partially why he probably is surging. He doesn't represent like the Biden administration, like Javier Becerra, who you covered him coming into that local news interview with such a sense of entitlement. Oh, this is going to be a nice profile, right? That's how it is when you have these states that are so deeply in one party or the other. It's so hard to get out of the vicious cycle.
01:03:40.560And that's why it's going to be very disillusioning if I think two of the best chances for not Republicans, but independents to just try and break the cycle, even if you don't agree with Pratt and Hilton on 100 percent of things like this is what scares California Democrats into being better is having a little bit of competition.
01:03:56.900And it's not going to work if you have Karen Bass and then like Tom Steyer, Javier Becerra stepping into these roles.
01:04:04.140Can you imagine if it's those two who advance if Steve Hilton doesn't even make the runoff for governor and you've got those two other losers vying for the top job?
01:04:16.300And what if, you know, what if at the at the mayoral level, it's not Spencer Pratt?0.58
01:04:21.520What if these other what if Karen Bass gets over 50 percent?
01:04:23.960I don't think so, unless Nithya Raman drops out.
01:04:25.940But you've got 60 plus percent of the vote ready to side with the Democrats.
01:04:31.160As much as we'd like to believe that Spencer Pratt has momentum, you know, he's in a three way tie right now.
01:04:36.860Like that sounds exciting for a Republican. That means two thirds are with the Democrats there.
01:04:41.860Not to be a buzzkill. I'm just looking at the numbers. It's like it's Lucy with the football.
01:04:47.200You know, it's like there are these people in L.A. actually going to vote for Spencer Pratt.
01:04:52.100I mean, I hope so. I'd love for him to just pull a rabbit out of a hat.
01:04:54.980But there's a reason California got into the mess it's in.
01:05:00.420And it's because of very, very bad voting choices.
01:05:23.480By the way, the Iran deal has completely fallen apart. The ceasefire may be off. That's been blown to smithereens. Israel continued to bomb Lebanon. Qatar is involved. It's it's a fucking mess. And I don't think it's got any chance of ending soon, unfortunately.
01:05:38.580And also Exxon just said gas prices are looking like they're going to go up to $150 to $160 per barrel in the coming weeks.
01:05:48.660They're now in the 90s, so that's terrible.
01:05:52.340This is a nightmare politically and otherwise.
01:05:55.620We have our own problems over here on the right, center right, and independent right, as I am.
01:06:01.900So I'm fine with Dr. Jill throwing a little hornet's nest over into our leftist friend's camp.
01:06:09.760She has decided that now would be a great time to revive the debate over whether Joe Biden's mental health was perfect while he was running for for president.
01:06:19.300And I am here for it. She's also not happy.
01:06:22.760she's not being shown the respect she thinks she deserves on this book rollout, which it's
01:06:28.680supposed to be about her, her and not just Joe Biden. Let me start with that one just because
01:06:34.180it's fun. And if this is angry, Jill Biden, who's giving Gayle King vibes of I'm inspirational,1.00
01:06:40.340Craig Melvin, whether you know it or not, I'm an inspiration. Watch. And I think we have to point
01:06:46.240out, Craig. Like, that's one chapter of my book. My book is not about politics. It's about me,
01:06:54.200my reflections, my life, my life as a teacher, my life as the first working lady, you know,
01:07:01.920first lady. I mean, I went to work. I taught at a community college. I took a paycheck.
01:07:08.220I wanted to say to American women, look at me. I am like you are.
01:07:13.060look at me i too can have a private car and drive me to the suburbs and teach
01:07:21.960can you believe she said i mean that shows her panic because i'll show you the earlier questions
01:07:31.140which are all about the nonsense in the chapter about joe biden and you know his mental deterioration
01:07:36.300the debate and all that but like that's her in a panic like it's supposed to be about me she's
01:07:40.900basically saying my booker and your booker agreed you were going to talk about me and what an
01:07:46.360inspiration I am. Where's that, Craig? And he kept calling her Dr. Jill, this fake obsequiousness.
01:07:53.160It wasn't even real obsequiousness. It was like he knew he had to do it, just like the price of
01:07:57.360admission and having her sit there. It's so painful. And then here is some more on how it
01:08:03.360when it came to her covers for Joe Biden on how well he allegedly did at the debate.
01:08:11.720Remember, after the debate, she told us all like, oh, he was impressive.
01:14:27.140The pain he went through. Honestly, like I'm not a Democrat.
01:14:32.740I was never voting for Joe Biden. But if I were, I think I'd be feeling rage throughout my entire body.
01:14:39.440The pain he went through as a result of him choosing to run again and then getting embarrassing himself on the national stage and getting forced out.
01:14:49.260The Democrat Party is apoplectic right now over the fact that Donald Trump is president and they hate everything he's doing.
01:25:35.600As obviously, yeah, low taxes, right. So obviously what they're learning the hard way is that
01:25:40.880when it comes to broadcast journalism, the broadcast piece of it actually does mean something
01:25:46.960and having some experience would be highly relevant and helpful. But they're learning
01:25:52.780the hard way that having zero experience, whether you are the editor-in-chief over there or the new
01:25:58.420head of 60 Minutes, does matter. It will set you up to fail. And if you don't have it, guess what
01:26:03.580else you won't be? Respected by the rank and file, who actually do take pride in understanding how to
01:26:09.600do not just journalism, but broadcast journalism, which involves a lot of other elements which they
01:26:15.260continue to get wrong under this new leadership. So she brings in somebody who's obviously some
01:26:20.540sort of a friend, this Nick Bilton, and he just held his first all-hands meeting at 60 Minutes
01:26:25.800this morning, and it did not go well. Scott Pelley, who's I guess the chief anchor over there,
01:26:32.180told this Nick Bilton that he has scant qualifications for the job and pressed him
01:26:38.280to account for all the firings we saw from 60 Minutes last week of anyone who got under Barry
01:26:44.260Weiss's skin. Nick suggested the conversation would be better held in private. Scott Pelley
01:26:50.300countered that he would prefer to have the conversation in front of his 60 Minutes colleagues
01:26:55.360for whom he clearly believed he was speaking to. Nick Bilton told Scott, they're my colleagues too,
01:27:02.460to which Scott Pelley replied, again, this is Dylan Byers reporting, to which Scott Pelley
01:27:07.480replied that remains to be seen whoa um he says he'll have more tonight and then there was another
01:27:16.680report from the guardian moments ago that said um hold on do i have it here yes from the guardians
01:27:26.680jeremy barr who reports that scott pelly then called out barry weiss in the meeting saying and
01:27:33.420this is in quotes, she's murdering 60 minutes. She does not love this place. She was brought
01:27:39.440in to kill it and is doing exactly that. Now, Emily, I want to take you back to right after
01:27:48.360Barry was given this job and she and I were friendly and I said some nice things about her
01:27:53.740because I cared about Barry. And to be honest, I still care about Barry. She's been coming for me
01:28:00.160over the Israel thing, much like Ben Shapiro, not the courtesy of a text, even though I texted her.
01:28:06.080Nope, I'm otherized. I guess I'm not on her list of friends now. That's fine. So I'm now just going
01:28:12.560to be really honest about what's happening at her in 60 Minutes. It's her fault. What she's doing at
01:28:17.720CBS, which is failing, is her fault. And even when Barry and I were friendly and she got this role,
01:28:24.240though I wished her well and so on, I did say the truth to my audience, as I always do.
01:28:30.340And this was my reaction when I heard she got this job with zero broadcast news experience.
01:28:37.260Why would you go into mainstream media right now? Like, it's dead. It's dying. It absolutely
01:28:46.100is on track for the iceberg. I just don't understand the allure. And I really don't
01:28:52.120understand the allure to go to a television network, which is not Barry's background at all.
01:28:58.220And it's for me, and I really love Barry and Nellie too. I worried they're going to eat her
01:29:04.260alive because CBS is among the worst when it comes to being insular. You have to be raised1.00
01:29:13.700at CBS to be respected by the CBS people. It's happening. It's happening right now.
01:29:21.240she's being eaten alive from within. She will not succeed in this position. It will not be held
01:29:26.440long-term. And you can see it. They can fire Sharon Alfonsi or this one or that one. The
01:29:32.940entire organization is against her. She's got like three friends over there, most of whom are
01:29:37.840extremely pro-Israel, who will speak up for her on that front. There's nothing wrong with being
01:29:41.660pro-Israel, but I'm telling you, they're not inside CBS. And you've got to have more to you
01:29:47.040than that. You have to have something they respect. And pro tip to the Ellisons, you also at CBS have
01:29:55.280to have been raised in television. You have to understand what's in the mind of a television
01:29:59.940correspondent, what makes a good television story, what works and what doesn't in a 60 minutes piece,
01:30:06.680which by the way, Mr. Ellison is a visual art. It's a visual presentation. She has no fucking
01:30:13.920background in this. They don't respect her and they never will. So she will be eaten alive.1.00
01:30:19.460It's happening right now. It has absolutely no hope of succeeding. And, you know, I'm not sorry
01:30:24.540to be right, but I was in what I said. Your point about the culture at CBS is such an important one
01:30:29.960that if you've worked at these big networks before, you know that it's exactly as you described it
01:30:36.180with CBS in particular. There's this like preciousness about the brand that makes this
01:30:40.780kind of difficult because Barry has the worst critics in so many cases. Like if it is, there's
01:30:45.920good gatekeeping and there's bad gatekeeping. And what Scott Pelley is doing is honestly bad
01:30:50.280gatekeeping. Like if her critics are Scott Pelley and Rita and the people who have run CBS into the
01:30:56.520ground, although it's now going further into the ground, if you're looking at ratings for evening
01:30:59.700news and such, that is not helpful, right? Like I don't have a lot of sympathy for Scott Pelley,
01:31:05.740who just doesn't want any of this precious, precious product, which the American people
01:31:09.420are increasingly rejecting to have a little bit of fresh air. And the built-in hire is very
01:31:15.660interesting because my understanding is he comes from New York Times documentaries. That is kind
01:31:20.180of what the sweet spot for 60 Minutes should be in that what you air on broadcast should be able
01:31:25.340to double on YouTube and be a really good ad generator for people in or for these networks.
01:31:31.280Now, they're always going to have to cut overhead. You're never going to be able to have Stephen
01:31:34.180Colbert with 200 staffers for a primetime, like late night, I'm sorry, late night comedy show.
01:31:39.420and that's going to apply across the board. Nor should you. Nor should Stephen Colbert.
01:31:42.980It's crazy. It's crazy. And you can't support that, but you can probably be profitable. Like
01:31:47.820Fallon does pretty well on socials. You should be working to find a new way to use all pieces
01:31:53.900of the news buffalo and all the different platforms that people are now on. So maybe
01:31:58.260it's an interesting hire. But yes, like you have to be able to do both. And I understand why people
01:32:04.580like Scott Pelley feel like they can't do both. I also feel like the gatekeeping from Scott Pelley
01:32:09.400and Alfonsi and Rita and Leslie Stahl or whomever else is mad about some of this stuff. It's like
01:32:14.200you are the last people to have any credibility about what should be happening at this network.
01:32:18.840So it's that part of it is infuriating. I mean, Scott Pelley is a prig and he's so annoying and
01:32:25.560he's so elitist. However, it doesn't matter what you and I think about Scott Pelley and his
01:32:31.980editorial judgment. What matters is inside of CBS. And unless they are prepared to get rid of
01:32:38.380everyone, except for those three or four people who support Barry, everyone. And I mean, on air
01:32:44.500and off, you know, behind the scenes, tech staff, producing staff, for sure, they're going to have
01:32:50.280to deal with this problem, which is she's not respected. She's loathed. And it's not because
01:32:55.540of any one thing. It's because she's not of them and she hasn't proven herself. She's not of
01:33:01.320television. She's been in journalism for about two minutes and not even in broadcast television.
01:33:07.260So it's just not going to work out. I'm sorry. But that's like I'm telling you, you cannot stay in a position in any position.
01:33:14.060I mean, the only reason she's like they're like golden child, they've decided she's something.
01:33:17.420That's why they gave her one hundred million dollars for her organization, which was worth one tenth that the free press.
01:33:23.920But like literally it's just their affinity for her as a person that's allowing her to stay in this role because CBS News has reached record low numbers in its morning show and its evening show.
01:33:34.100And now we're going after 60 minutes, which is the only thing they have left.
01:33:37.600OK, so she's not succeeding by any measure.
01:33:43.940She does not have the support of the troops internally.
01:33:46.240So good luck with that, Ellis and crew.
01:33:49.060OK, in the time we have left, I guess we have to talk about James Tallarico because he is now running for Senate in the state of Texas and he will take on Ken Paxton.
01:34:02.120and there is a question. There are a lot of questions, a lot of questions about James
01:34:05.820Tallarico. Does he eat meat or doesn't he? He's tweeted out the picture of him eating like a side
01:34:10.840of ribs, but he already is on camera saying that he's vegan and that his campaign is vegan. And
01:34:16.040by the way, he was holding those ribs, like trying to tear in them like a real meat eater,
01:34:19.820and he was holding them with a napkin. He had a little napkin because he didn't want to get his
01:34:24.520girly little fingers dirty with the sauce on the barbecue. That is not how a real Texas man does it.
01:34:28.980okay so there's that now i think in an effort to like show us that he really is a man because
01:34:34.660there's a question i mean let's let's face it we don't understand what we're dealing with there
01:34:39.600he's really focused on the six sexes and i one has to wonder whether that that's because he's
01:34:44.160one of the other four that we don't know about trump called him transgender over the weekend
01:34:47.640yes yes i'm just gonna say the president he he he's not always politically correct but he does
01:34:58.400zero in on things we're all kind of thinking. He just, he's the only one who has the nerve to say
01:35:02.760it. Um, so it turns out on cue, James Tallarico reveals he has a girlfriend. Okay. He has a
01:35:11.960girlfriend. Her name is George Glass. No, uh, her name is, uh, what's her name? Hold on. Where is
01:35:18.580she? She's pretty. Uh, she's pretty. Yes. Brianna Menard and Brianna Menard has apparently she1.00
01:35:28.260met him in 2022. Mangabat. Wait, no, no, no. Menard. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm
01:35:34.980confusing my two scandals here. So they met in 2022 and she was working on his campaign at the
01:35:40.480time, Emily. And then I guess she left the campaign and they made it official in 2023,
01:35:47.300allegedly between them. And it was in 2023 that she dropped, by the way, she's a committed vegan,
01:35:55.880yoga buff and cat mom who likes dancing the night away at a local gay bar called cheer up charlie's0.65
01:36:02.600in austin the plot thickens okay cat friendly cat friendly gay bar
01:36:07.260what's happening so she in 2023 released the following is it a poem oh no oh yeah sorry it
01:36:23.100was 2022 so as while she's working for his campaign and maybe the relationship had started
01:36:29.380so it's unclear whether it's directly about him let's just watch it together because we needed
01:36:33.580to see it to believe it let me kiss you endlessly like the breeze dancing around us in our timeless
01:36:40.860palace our sanctuary of you and me tapping along and i don't want to slow down one two one two
01:36:49.360three four count me in because i can't stay away i'm fighting tears watching you put the sunset to
01:36:56.560shame i'm stoned on your smile a butterfly lost in a galaxy of freckles eternally lifted by your
01:37:04.440chemicals is this okay the wine tastes better on your lips hold my hand and tell me your secret
01:37:12.280how do you glow in the dark let's go play under the moon she'll keep it to herself while we come
01:37:19.060alive in her light. It's as if I bottled you up and drank you the way you wore me from the inside.
01:37:31.760I'm horrified. I don't like it. Oh my gosh, Emily. That's the girlfriend. Um, I let me kiss
01:37:40.040you endlessly. Like the breeze dancing around us in our timeless palace,
01:37:45.320tapping along i don't want to slow down count me in because i can't stay away
01:37:52.680i'm stoned on your smile a butterfly lost in a galaxy of freckles
01:37:59.500i mean i would like nobody should be writing that about brad pitt let alone james tallarico
01:38:07.380it's disgusting we need joseph massey for this but i will say megan i do after party listeners
01:38:14.040know, I unfortunately have a minor in creative writing with a concentration in poetry. And I
01:38:19.760will tell you, as an 18-year-old, I had to sit through a whole lot of classes where people
01:38:25.100brought poems like this, but actually somehow better than this, and had to read them aloud
01:38:30.340to the class. And I can tell you, that is like a C in freshman poetry, where I come from.
01:38:37.640That's not an A. And she published that! She released it!
01:38:41.560A butterfly lost in a galaxy of freckles.
01:38:46.720That's how we think of Glenn Greenwald.
01:38:48.100That says externally lifted by your chemicals.
01:53:22.720This is so damaging and just destructive to a young man's psyche to have to go through that just to join a fraternity.
01:53:30.860And then he has to watch as Jon Hamm becomes a big star, a huge celebrity.
01:53:36.800But at least he's thinking they didn't know.
01:53:38.840at least he's thinking, OK, all he's doing is acting a role. He's not actually Jon Hamm
01:53:44.560who's being celebrated until now, where Tom Steyer has taken the actual Jon Hamm to be,
01:53:50.820in essence, a campaign spokesperson, because he's just fine. The big protector of California
01:53:55.980is just fine with having an abuser, alleged, voice over his last campaign ad to leave
01:54:02.140that lasting impression with Californians about what a protector Tom Steyer is going to be.
01:54:06.840Well, I'm contrasting this in my mind with Mark Wahlberg, who a lot more people are familiar with Mark Wahlberg. I mean, these are people of similar caliber celebrity. A lot more people are familiar with Mark Wahlberg's past, and he's had to explain it. He's had to deal with it. And you rarely ever, ever hear this Jon Hamm story. Like, despite how serious the allegations are, you rarely ever, ever hear about this.
01:54:26.760Like, that's the beauty of what Maureen does.
01:54:28.980She tells these stories because as a market, people know they're not getting what they
01:54:32.600want to hear from Hollywood, like, industry press.
01:54:55.420it's like Matt Damon almost had his career destroyed because he was accused was it I forgive
01:55:02.300me I forget whether it was Matt or Ben Affleck one of them like allegedly grabbed a woman's rear end
01:55:08.880during the Me Too era and it came out and the other one like defended him but he definitely
01:55:12.980almost got it was Ben who did it okay and Matt just made comments about it like calm down and0.98
01:55:18.520And then Matt admitted that he had used the term faggot.0.97
01:55:22.980He had like discussed at the table with his daughter how the term that term didn't used to be, you know, verboten.0.98
01:55:31.460And she couldn't believe that he didn't know that, like that there was a time when that term was used.
01:55:36.460And he almost got canceled over saying that, you know, at one point that term wasn't considered anathema, like you were allowed to say it.
01:55:44.980So like they're ready to cancel Matt Damon over that word and over defending like a bottom tap.
01:55:52.740But Jon Hamm can not only be a huge star in all these series and movies and actually do voiceovers for gubernatorial campaigns after breaking a man's back, allegedly, and allegedly trying to set him on fire.
01:56:09.660Again, he's sort of trying to deny it. It's not the most convincing denial to Esquire.
01:56:15.720That's just fine. Hollywood doesn't have its values intact, and neither do Democrats in
01:56:22.440California if they don't start calling Tom Steyer's office and asking him why he chose
01:56:28.680this alleged abuser to be his campaign voiceover man. That's the lasting impression he wants
01:56:35.280Californians to be left with. I think it's disgusting, Emily. I'm sorry. I just think0.96
01:56:38.080of all the people. I'm sure there's other rich California actors who would have been willing
01:56:45.700to voice a Tom Steyer ad. You didn't have to go to this guy. I wonder if the Steyer campaign even
01:56:51.680knows about this, honestly. That's how little this has been talked about, even right now as
01:56:57.000he's cutting this ad for Steyer at the last minute. This show is probably one of the only places where
01:57:02.140this is getting discussed. And again, if he were coming out for Steve Hilton or Spencer Pratt,
01:57:07.180we know that this story would be huge. It would be weaponized. And I don't think all of our
01:57:12.020standards are great, but all people are asking for is for us to have the same standards. For
01:57:17.340Hollywood, if they're going to lecture us and send endorsements to candidates, all we're asking
01:57:24.040is that they hold themselves to the same standards if they're going to be so sanctimonious about
01:57:29.160politics. If they insist on doing that, then they should hold themselves to their own standards.
01:57:33.560And that's obviously not happening here.
01:58:09.100We will certainly call the Tom Steyer campaign, as we have been, trying to get him to come on the show to defend his stance on males playing in female sports.
01:58:18.340But he's too much of a you-know-what to come on here and actually answer tough questions.