The Megyn Kelly Show - Prince Harry's Hypocrisy in New BBC Interview, and Meghan's Fawning Podcast Appearance, with Dan Wootton ｜ Ep. 1066

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00:00:16.820 After a years-long battle, Prince Harry lost his fight for government-funded security when he is in the UK.

00:00:24.880 Following the legal ruling, Prince Harry ran to the media, shock, and participated in a sit-down interview with the BBC,

00:00:33.120 claiming he does not see a world where he could bring Meghan and the kids back to the UK,

00:00:39.520 alleging, we know where the responsibility lies if something were to happen to his father's grandchildren,

00:00:46.940 while admitting he doesn't know how long his father, the King of England, has left.

00:00:52.100 He's been battling an undisclosed form of cancer.

00:00:55.640 Harry and Meghan continually reach new lows.

00:00:59.560 Here to walk us through the latest is Dan Wooden, host of Dan Wooden Outspoken.

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00:01:39.200 Dan, great to see you again. Welcome back.

00:01:41.740 And of course, it's on a note like this, sour, embittered, and woe is me.

00:01:48.940 Put it in perspective for us. What's he doing here?

00:01:51.340 Always, always. I mean, this is a shocking new low, Meghan, because amidst all of that,

00:01:57.820 he also went as far to suggest that the royal family actually wanted him dead.

00:02:04.340 So let's just step back and think about that for one moment, because on the one hand, he's saying,

00:02:10.960 I want reconciliation. I want to have a relationship with my brother again, even though he never wants

00:02:16.120 to speak to me again. I want to speak to my dad again. Yeah, he's probably dying, so I feel a little

00:02:21.540 bit bad about that. Then, in the same breath, he's saying, these guys want me to be unsafe.

00:02:29.720 Let me just show that. I have that little bit from the BBC interview. We have a bunch of thoughts,

00:02:34.840 but let me show that last one that he believes they want him dead.

00:02:38.940 I want history to repeat itself. I think there's a lot of other people out there,

00:02:42.880 the majority, that also don't want history to repeat itself. Through the disclosure process,

00:02:48.700 I've discovered that some people want history to repeat itself, which is pretty dark.

00:02:54.420 That's quite a statement. Who do you think that is?

00:02:56.620 I'm not going to share at this point. I know all the names of the people that were involved in this

00:03:02.080 process. Again, you have to question, why wasn't I put through the same risk management board that

00:03:09.200 everybody else was put through? The reason they won't pay for his ongoing security when he visits

00:03:15.220 the UK is because they want him dead, Dan. I know. This is now paranoia and delusion

00:03:21.720 on an actual terrifying scale. Because, Megan, what he is suggesting is that the royal family

00:03:28.380 is conspiring with the British government to make him unsafe, to see him die in an accident,

00:03:39.060 like his mother, Princess Diana, all because actually, this is where his argument gets really

00:03:45.180 weird. They secretly wanted to force him into returning to the UK. Trust me, Megan. Trust me.

00:03:52.100 You know I've covered this story up close for many years. No member of the royal family, not one,

00:03:58.740 not one member of the British royal family wants him back in the United Kingdom. And as for

00:04:04.360 reconciliation, my sources very close to Prince William say that his words were,

00:04:10.360 over my dead body. It's done. It's over. There were red lines. Harry crossed them. And the fact

00:04:19.340 that he is now trying to suggest that the royal family actually want him to die like Diana, well,

00:04:25.000 it's just another step too far. Like, why on earth would they reconcile at the same time as he's

00:04:30.480 putting out actually arguably the most crazy and explosive accusation yet?

00:04:37.020 Yes. Yes. And why would he want to reconcile with people who literally want him dead? I mean,

00:04:43.820 it doesn't make any sense. And so it isn't true. That's basically the rule. He, um, unfortunately,

00:04:50.500 it looks like we're going to be stuck with him because he said the following in SOT 42.

00:04:56.400 I can't see a world in which I would be bringing my wife and children back to the UK at this point.

00:05:03.080 Um, and the things that they, the things that they're going to miss is, well, everything,

00:05:08.600 you know, I love my country. I always have done, um, despite what some people in that country have

00:05:15.360 done. Um, so, you know, I, I miss, I miss the UK. I miss parts of the UK. Of course I do. And I think

00:05:22.880 that it's really quite sad that I won't be able to show, you know, my children, my homeland.

00:05:28.580 Oh, it's a stomach turning dad. And I love my country, you know, despite what some people

00:05:35.380 there have done, he's got so much anger. I mean, all I can think is that we reported the truth,

00:05:44.680 right? We were reported the truth about the behavior of his wife, his narcissistic wife, 0.67

00:05:52.200 Meghan Markle. Now, Meghan, remember at the time, the idea was that people like me were actually

00:05:58.880 somehow racist because we reported the fact that she was a bully, for example, reported the fact

00:06:04.080 that the late Queen Elizabeth II had called her out for her disgusting behavior, that Catherine had

00:06:09.720 actually confronted her at Kensington Palace about the way that she spoke to staff. That was all racism.

00:06:15.100 There was something about us Brits. We just didn't understand the American way. Well,

00:06:20.160 how on earth does Prince Harry now explain the fact that actually the bullying accusations are

00:06:25.780 piling up from Americans, from the woke Californians working at Archwell, that they're reported in

00:06:33.540 establishment pro-royal magazines like Vanity Fair or The Hollywood Reporter? None of this makes sense.

00:06:41.920 And the problem is Harry is now so isolated. He has ignored so many people for so long.

00:06:46.600 There's only one person who advises him, his wife. And she only cares about trying to protect her own 0.94

00:06:54.880 reputation. So all of this is crazy. But the idea that he thinks there is a way back by giving another

00:07:02.640 interview is what's nuts. Because I will say, Meghan, King Charles doesn't feel the same as Prince

00:07:08.300 William. There is a split between father and son on this. So William, when he is on the throne,

00:07:15.100 and very sadly, that will probably be sooner rather than later, given Charles is suffering from

00:07:23.160 cancer, which I believe to be incurable, although Buckingham Palace are saying that he's fighting on

00:07:31.760 and things are pretty good. And obviously, we know with medical advances, you can stay alive with

00:07:39.420 incurable cancer for some time. But the long term or even the medium term prognosis is not good.

00:07:45.880 And by the time William is on the throne, there is no way back. Meghan, he doesn't even want Harry

00:07:50.720 at his own coronation. So it's finished. But Charles is a different type of guy. He feels a lot of guilt

00:08:01.360 for Harry's upbringing. He knows that the war of the whales, which was obviously Diana versus Charles

00:08:09.140 and all of those TV interviews and tampon gate and then the death of Princess Diana. He knows that did

00:08:16.820 screw Harry up in a lot of ways. So Charles still feels this inherent guilt as a dad and was open

00:08:24.500 to some sort of rapprochement. But then Harry went and gave the interview to the BBC and it is back

00:08:31.920 to square one. Right. So he's the thing he's whining about now is that when he left the royal family

00:08:40.260 and his official role, they said, we're not going to be paying for your security when you come over

00:08:48.340 here. You know, you've left the you're not no longer working royal. So you're not going to get the

00:08:52.860 police force around you when you pay visits here. And Harry's argument to the BBC and in court was

00:08:59.360 I can never leave the royal family. I could leave as a working royal, but I am part of the royal family

00:09:05.000 and therefore I'm in danger and that they never did a review of my security status. They just yanked it

00:09:12.760 to try to force me. And you were saying this couldn't possibly be, but try to force me to stay

00:09:17.840 as a working royal because he said my threat level was the highest of anybody back in like 2020.

00:09:24.340 And then they revoked all my protection without even doing an additional security assessment,

00:09:31.040 proving in his mind they knew I was at risk. And while I left as a working royal, I never can leave

00:09:37.340 being a royal because as he said to the BBC, you know, I am who I am.

00:09:41.100 100%. And he wants to be treated like a former prime minister who will receive lifetime security

00:09:50.240 rights. So even as Charles, she was prime minister for six weeks. She receives security for the rest

00:09:56.060 of her life. He believes that that's what he deserves. Now, Meghan, in the negotiations after

00:10:02.600 Meg said at this thing called the Sandringham Summit, where all of the senior royals, the late

00:10:08.680 Queen Elizabeth II, King Charles, William, and their senior staff gathered, Harry was told point

00:10:14.900 blank, you will lose your security if you leave in this way. Yes, that is why the royals tried to

00:10:22.740 come to some type of arrangement with Harry. There were loads of ideas thrown around. At one point,

00:10:27.460 it was like, could we maybe move you to South Africa, a Commonwealth country for six months of the

00:10:32.860 year? What about making you the governor general of Australia? Is there some type of role for you in

00:10:38.280 Canada? But as soon as Meghan Markle made it absolutely clear that it was all about the

00:10:42.920 moolah, it was all about the big bucks, it was all about trading off the royal name. And you've got to

00:10:47.680 remember, she was lining up these deals, Meghan, when she was still the Duchess of Sussex. She was in

00:10:53.300 talks with Disney, she was in talks with the publishing companies, in talks with Netflix. So at that point,

00:10:59.560 the late Queen Elizabeth II, quite rightly, in my opinion, said, no, there is no half in,

00:11:04.060 half out. So you can go, you go without blessing, but you lose everything, and you do lose your

00:11:11.200 security. And you can imagine the difficulty for the British government, because if they were to fund

00:11:16.700 Prince Harry's security, that would also mean that there would be pressure for them to provide

00:11:22.400 security to other high net worth, famous individuals who come to the United Kingdom. Mark Zuckerberg,

00:11:28.520 Elon Musk, Bill Gates, and that doesn't happen in this country. Now, Harry has been very intellectually

00:11:36.040 dishonest, though, to suggest that there is no security for him. Every time he has come, King

00:11:41.460 Charles has offered him a lodging at, wait for it, Buckingham Palace. And guess what, Meghan?

00:11:48.040 Buckingham Palace is empty at the moment, right? Charles is at Clarence House, William is in Windsor,

00:11:53.980 so he could have the rum of Buckingham Palace. And if he was at Buckingham Palace,

00:11:59.060 he would receive full security. Guess what? Harry said no. He went to say with a posh,

00:12:06.440 rich friend and an eight million pound flat, it has been revealed, Meghan, that he ordered Deliveroo,

00:12:12.560 you know, Deliveroo, it's like a food order for food ordering service here, like Uber Eats or whatever.

00:12:17.180 Now, that goes against every form of security, if you're a member of the royal family. So he doesn't

00:12:25.300 really care. This is just something for Harry to do. He needs to have a battle. He needs to have a

00:12:32.260 mission. It's actually deeply sad, but I have zero sympathy for him because the fact that he is putting

00:12:38.160 his father through this in the final years of his life has a very, very sinister mirroring

00:12:46.200 of exactly what he did with Prince Philip. Do you remember that? The Oprah interview and all of

00:12:50.400 that when Prince Philip was on his deathbed. And then the late Queen Elizabeth II, because all of

00:12:56.220 the drama around Spare and the Netflix documentary and all of other, all of their other terrible

00:13:03.220 slights happened when the late Queen Elizabeth II was dying of blood cancer. It's like, you're never

00:13:09.080 going to learn. And there's no turning back. And Megan, there are members of the royal family

00:13:14.600 who believe that Harry's behavior hastened the death of the late Queen Elizabeth II.

00:13:21.920 Yes.

00:13:22.160 That is not something that they will easily forgive and forget.

00:13:25.620 I believe that too. That's what I say. I say those two killed the Queen. That's my opinion.

00:13:29.440 I saw that.

00:13:30.020 Yeah. She would have lived longer had they not ruined her last two years on earth with 0.97

00:13:35.380 their selfishness. So much strength. So now he lost at the trial court level on this push to make

00:13:42.140 the British royal family pay for his security when he goes to the UK. And then he appealed it and he's

00:13:47.040 just lost the appeal. And now he runs to the BBC. He's totally forlorn. He's like, can't believe I

00:13:53.260 lost this? And now he's got this warning for his cancer stricken father in SOT 43.

00:14:01.160 Once they realize that, you know, myself, my wife, my kids are happier outside of the institution,

00:14:07.880 then please just look at the facts. Look at the risks. Look at the threat. Look at the impact

00:14:13.740 that if anything was to happen to me, my wife, or my father's grandchildren, if anything was to

00:14:19.660 happen to them, look where the responsibility lies. You know?

00:14:24.980 I mean, what a manipulation. My father's grandchildren. They're going to die and it

00:14:32.280 will be his fault. That's what he was saying there.

00:14:35.140 It's gaslighting on a grand scale. But Megan, you know how when the palaces usually brief about

00:14:41.960 these types of stories, right, they're quite buttoned up and, you know, they try and keep

00:14:48.380 the language, the tone quite controlled. That's all out the window after this interview. They are

00:14:55.940 raging. They have had enough. So the accusations now against Harry are you're gaslighting. They've

00:15:03.060 literally used that term. And they've also described their behavior and especially the behavior of

00:15:08.500 Meghan Markle, by the way, who after that interview posted a picture of Harry on his own, sort of

00:15:13.580 looking for lawn with the two children. Although, of course, you don't see the faces of the children

00:15:18.560 and it looks like their bodies have been manipulated. So that's all really weird.

00:15:23.040 In their garden.

00:15:23.740 In Montecito.

00:15:24.880 Yeah, in the garden. That's it.

00:15:26.040 Walking away.

00:15:27.260 Do you know what the palace briefed? That is Meghan Markle giving us a giant FU. Now,

00:15:34.720 that is not the sort of language usually used by the royal family, but they'll fit up.

00:15:39.060 I thought it was usually bugger off.

00:15:42.080 Yes, that's true. I definitely want them to bugger off. It's just like, leave us alone,

00:15:49.000 go and do your own thing, enjoy your millions. What is this all about? And you can understand

00:15:54.880 from Charles's point of view, it's like, we've offered you Buckingham Palace, you'd get royal

00:15:58.960 security if there was a risk or if you were here for any type of formal event. But if you're at

00:16:03.920 Buckingham Palace, you're protected anyway, because of all of the natural security that

00:16:09.000 is provided at Buckingham Palace. What's your problem? The problem is he wants to be able

00:16:14.360 to swan into the country whenever he wants, not tell anyone and receive state funded security.

00:16:20.400 It just isn't going to happen. But the problem is, he's surrounded by yes men. He's surrounded

00:16:26.100 by people who have created this delusion in his head. And actually, he is now a pathetic

00:16:31.980 man, really, on so many levels. Because you also remember, Megan, and I was more personally

00:16:36.820 involved in this one, because I was actually going to give evidence against Harry. And he said it was

00:16:41.560 the fight of his life. He was going to take Rupert Murdoch and the tabloid newspapers to court,

00:16:48.260 and he was going to be the first man to do it. He was never going to settle. And this was the battle

00:16:52.360 of his life versus the sun and news of the world. And he was going to be the guy to bring down

00:16:57.640 Rupert Murdoch. Well, guess what? The day the trial was meant to start, he folded and he folded

00:17:02.820 for a big sum. He settled. So then he says, this security case is the fight of my life. This is the

00:17:09.160 battle of my life. But he's lost. So what now? What now? The problem is, there is nothing. He has

00:17:16.380 no focus. He has no job. He's trapped in a very unhappy marriage with a narcissistic woman who is now

00:17:23.900 wearing the trousers in the relationship because she's the moneymaker. Harry isn't making any

00:17:29.960 money. She's the one that is now going to commercialize the children, pimp them out on 1.00

00:17:34.420 social media, even though Prince Harry has said that social media is a killing ground for children.

00:17:39.580 And so he's just got nothing. It's really sad that someone who on the surface has everything,

00:17:46.660 you know, I mean, look at his life. He's like a bored housewife who's looking for drama because he's

00:17:51.640 not busy enough and he's not obviously spending enough time with his children or he might find

00:17:56.600 that fulfilling. But yeah, he's looking to create drama. You can see it in like the fights that he's

00:18:01.760 picking. He went on to say that he could forgive the race allegations that he made. He and his wife,

00:18:11.800 Megan, made both to Oprah and in their Netflix documentary. I use that term very loosely, documentary.

00:18:18.440 Um, he could forgive what happened on the racial front, but this thing about taking his security

00:18:23.540 away and like trying in his view to have him killed, that's a bridge too far. Here he is in

00:18:28.480 stop 44. There are decisions that have been made. There are things that have happened

00:18:33.460 since 2016, especially throughout my whole life, but let's just stick since 2016. There are things

00:18:39.440 that have happened that I can now forgive. I have moved past that. I can forgive my family's

00:18:44.020 involvement and my father, my brother, and my stepmother. I can forgive. I can forgive the

00:18:51.380 press to a large extent as well for so many things that have happened. What I'm struggling

00:18:55.600 to forgive and what I will probably always struggle to forgive, um, is that a decision that was made in

00:19:03.200 2020 that affects my every single day. And that is knowingly putting me and my family in harm's way.

00:19:13.440 Okay, Dan, how does it affect his every single day? We, we've seen his home. We've seen his garden.

00:19:22.400 We've seen their extravagant lifestyle. They're, they want us to believe they're living their best

00:19:27.360 lives out there. How does him not having exactly the security he wants in the UK when he goes to

00:19:34.200 the UK affect his every single day to where this is unforgivable, but his family allegedly being a

00:19:40.680 bunch of racists against his babies. That's fine. Totally. It's completely insane. And the fact that

00:19:47.280 he is asking for forgiveness is the most hilarious thing because actually the people who he needs to

00:19:55.100 apologize to Megan, uh, the British people who he claimed were all racist. Remember post-Brexit in

00:20:03.980 the Netflix documentary and specifically King Charles and Catherine, the princess of Wales,

00:20:09.980 who he claimed were the royal racist. Do you remember that after the Oprah Winfrey interview,

00:20:14.880 this witch hunt began, then they leaked the names to that very odd little guy,

00:20:20.220 Omar Scobie, who sort of looks a bit like Michael Jackson. And he put out there that they were the

00:20:26.820 royal racist. And then Prince Harry goes and does an interview with his best mate, Tom Bradby on Woke

00:20:33.220 ITV, as I call it. And Tom Bradby says, well, what about these racism allegations? And Harry says,

00:20:38.040 what racism allegations? Right. That was just made up by the media. So it's like the guy is living in

00:20:45.660 actually quite a concerning dream world. There is no sense that he has anchored to any type of

00:20:53.420 reality. And the fact that he's sort of saying, I can forgive you. I can forgive the British media

00:20:59.180 for what you are the one that needs to apologize. And actually that interview could have been very

00:21:04.060 different. As I say, not with William, William's done. William and Catherine are done with Harry.

00:21:08.800 There's, there's no going back there, but the interview could have been very different.

00:21:12.080 If Harry had offered some type of apology in that interview to Charles and the stress that he put

00:21:17.560 him through and said, look, I'm just going to take this out of the media and I want to reconcile

00:21:23.500 privately. But you know, Megan, the distrust now between the royal family and Prince Harry and Megan

00:21:29.960 is off the scale. Like there are serious suspicions that they were actually trying to record

00:21:37.400 conversations, even when they returned to the United Kingdom for the late queen's funeral.

00:21:43.320 And I know for a fact that King Charles and Prince William spoke about this and decided that they would

00:21:50.360 not ever be in any type of confined space on their own with Prince Harry without the other royal in

00:21:58.880 attendance. Because William and Charles were so nervous that Harry would create some type of lie that

00:22:05.640 would become a case of their word versus his. And so what they thought is at least if we're both

00:22:12.100 there, we're both there, we can back the other one up. But come on, that's a relationship that is just

00:22:17.620 completely broken down. Completely broken down.

00:22:19.960 No, no. You do have to worry that he's just taping them or if he's not taping them, just going to use it

00:22:26.360 as fodder for his next book, Spare 2 or his next Netflix special or his next Spotify deal once the current

00:22:35.000 spigot runs out. So yeah, understandably, they don't have any desire to talk to him one on one. He's made it

00:22:42.180 so that it's not possible, which is why this next soundbite is just so cynical. He knows exactly the position

00:22:49.720 he's put them in. Here it is, Sat 45.

00:22:55.180 There have been so many disagreements, differences between me and some of my family.

00:23:04.620 This current situation that has been ongoing for five years with regard to human life and safety is the

00:23:13.020 sticking point. It is the only thing that's left. Of course, some members of my family will never

00:23:20.440 forgive me for writing a book. Of course, they will never forgive me for lots of things. But, you know,

00:23:29.920 there is... I would love reconciliation with my family. There's no point in continuing to fight

00:23:41.020 anymore. As I said, life is precious. I don't know how much longer my father has. You know,

00:23:48.420 he won't speak to me because of this security stuff. But it would be nice to reconcile.

00:23:59.200 Oh, how about that, Dan?

00:24:00.980 It's delusional. It's totally delusional. Because what you have to think, Nagan, is that there were

00:24:11.500 loads of points along the way where there could have been a full reconciliation. But there was

00:24:17.840 particular red lines that Harry was warned about very directly. So from King Charles's perspective,

00:24:23.800 it was don't come for Camilla. Just leave Camilla alone. And from William's perspective, it was don't

00:24:32.860 come for my wife. Do not come for Catherine. You'll be making a big mistake. And what did he do? He went

00:24:39.940 for Camilla and Catherine in spare. And actually, he even released private WhatsApp messages between

00:24:46.360 Meghan Markle and Catherine in the book to try and prove that Catherine is some type of bully, 1.00

00:24:50.440 which is a ludicrous claim. I mean, if you know anything about Catherine, it's like she's a very

00:24:57.120 sweet, softly, sobering person. She doesn't like getting into rows with anyone. And Meghan,

00:25:02.640 just look at the track record, right? We've seen Catherine in public life now for two decades. 0.97

00:25:07.300 Have you ever heard about her fallout with anyone? Like anyone?

00:25:11.160 She's the picture of class.

00:25:13.320 Yeah, Meghan, there's like this long list of people who she falls out with, from her own family

00:25:19.100 to her personal assistance. So Harry had all of these warnings. There were ways for him to still

00:25:25.540 come back. But unfortunately, he's right when he says that William will, well, he's talking about

00:25:31.020 William, that William will never forgive him for writing the book. And that's not a surprise,

00:25:36.380 because remember, it wasn't just Catherine that he came for. He also made William out to be some type

00:25:41.580 of violent bully. So it is unforgettable. And unfortunately, Harry now has to deal with the

00:25:48.580 consequences of his action. You made a lot of money. That money was meant to give you the freedom.

00:25:55.440 So go and live your life. Go and live your life in your 16-bathroom Montecito mansion. But you just know

00:26:03.760 that actually he's yearning to find a reason to be back in the United Kingdom, Meghan. And one of the

00:26:09.700 issues is that he is now so ostracized from every single friendship group that had nothing to do

00:26:15.980 with Meghan Markle. And she is a manipulative person. So while I don't, you know, I'm not one

00:26:22.040 of these people who says, oh, woe is me, poor Harry, because actually he allowed himself to be

00:26:27.620 manipulated. But what she has done is taken away any of the people who he could have trusted to confide

00:26:35.960 at a time like this. It's really true. It's his school friends, his army mates. It's the old

00:26:41.380 courtiers. It's like what they say, you know, like coercive control. If this were a man doing it to a

00:26:47.400 woman, we'd see it very clearly where if you have an abusive husband, suddenly the wife is detached

00:26:53.520 from all of her family and is sending emails saying, I don't want to see you anymore. Don't bother me.

00:26:57.740 And then also detached from all of her friends. And he isolates her to the point where he can control

00:27:03.660 her. I mean, really just look at the reverse. Like that's what she effectively got him to do

00:27:08.380 to alienate his entire family, all of his friends. Yeah. And then just to add one other point to it,

00:27:15.280 you watch her and you watch him. I mean, I didn't really know this until this whole

00:27:19.160 past few years. He's not smart. This is not a smart young man. And she is smart. She is very smart

00:27:26.260 and she's cunning. And the more I've seen of her, the more I've seen of him, I feel like it was

00:27:30.360 shooting fish in a barrel for her. Oh my God. He stood no chance when this woman put her designs 1.00

00:27:35.700 on him. She had him from the word hello. Well, Megan, you obviously revealed that to the world,

00:27:41.560 didn't you? With the fact that she had the mood board, the mood board with Prince Harry on.

00:27:46.640 And we know that she was so desperate to snare Harry. And yes, remember it was Princess Diana who

00:27:53.780 described Harry as not being a particularly smart guy. And so this is the problem.

00:27:58.940 He likes to think he is, but actually he doesn't really have the intellectual capability to deal

00:28:04.880 with all of this. And he was very well protected in the royal family for a long time. He had a load

00:28:10.800 of good people around him who made sure that he got through these scrapes. And all of a sudden,

00:28:15.960 he doesn't. He's totally ostracized, totally isolated, totally on his own. His only friends

00:28:22.160 now, Megan, are the joint friends, the showbiz friends who Megan Markle controls. So I'm not

00:28:29.880 disagreeing with the fact, I absolutely believe there is a degree of coercive control. There is a

00:28:34.200 degree of emotional abuse. And what is particularly shocking at the moment, and if you just juxtapose

00:28:39.560 how she looks in these interviews, like the cat who's got the cream, you know, my confession,

00:28:47.000 my confession is that I'm the happiest I've ever been. I'm the happiest I've ever been. Life is so

00:28:51.900 good. Cut to Harry on the BBC, totally devastated. And there was actually an amazing moment, you know,

00:29:00.180 when he turned up at the Time 100. It wasn't the party that you were at, Megan, you know,

00:29:05.760 the summit during the day. And he was her bag carrier, right? He was her bag carrier. She had

00:29:11.620 forced him to attend with her as her bag carrier. Yet she didn't go with him to the Legends of Aviation

00:29:20.940 event that he was at the next night, because it's one way traffic in their relationship.

00:29:25.080 But there's a key moment when he leaves the car, and she walks in front of him,

00:29:33.220 almost pushes him out the way, goes to shake the hand of the person who was coming to greet them.

00:29:38.520 Now, if you were following royal protocol, which is obviously the protocol that Harry followed for

00:29:43.040 his entire life, as the blood royal, he would be the person who got to shake the hand first. Now,

00:29:49.660 I understand as Americans, you can say that's all stupid and everything. And in lots of ways it is.

00:29:54.340 But that was the life that Harry was brought up in. And you just see his face, the color drain from

00:30:00.160 his face. And it's like this moment of realization. I'm now the spare to Meghan Markle.

00:30:06.540 Oh my God, you're right. I was still worried about being the spare to Prince Harry,

00:30:10.580 to Prince William. But now I'm the spare to my own wife.

00:30:15.460 I had never considered that, but you are 100% right. That's exactly what he's done.

00:30:21.420 It's like he needed to repeat the same pathology somehow. And she is meanwhile trying to have her

00:30:28.220 cake and eat it too, because she's putting out this perfectly curated life on her stupid Netflix 1.00

00:30:35.180 special, you know, with her. Oh, you know, I just had like just the perfect bath salts and just the

00:30:40.440 perfect tea and just the perfect pretzel. And you know, the, the, the fruit spread that takes

00:30:46.440 eight hours to prepare. That's just what I do before school. It's kind of mom. I am.

00:30:51.120 Then she meanders over to this podcast of this woman who created it cosmetics, Jamie Kern Lima.

00:30:57.280 And I knew there was something weird about this woman. I interviewed her, Dan, when I was at NBC

00:31:02.280 about creating IT cosmetics. And she did have the high, I can't even do it. My voice is too low, but

00:31:08.540 she had the high squeaky voice a little, but she's really leaning in now in her little podcast with

00:31:16.220 Megan. She's gone next octave up and the two of them have the weirdest dynamic. And so in this podcast,

00:31:24.600 Megan does her perfectly curated life thing, but she's allegedly wearing no makeup. Meanwhile, she's got 1.00

00:31:31.020 like the perfect blowout, you know, and like she's completely camera ready, except she didn't put eye 0.99

00:31:36.000 makeup on. And she also is pretending that she she's crying. And we did a zero in, like we zoomed in just

00:31:43.280 to see there isn't a tear in sight. Dan, look, look at this. I invite the viewers to take a closeup.

00:31:51.540 Look at this. Where's the tear? There's nothing there. Look, she just, it's an actor's trick.

00:31:58.840 She just keeps wiping and wiping and wiping. So we think she has a heart.

00:32:06.700 Oh my God, Megan. She has this really famous thing where she says one tap left eye and she can 1.00

00:32:14.820 make herself cry on demand. And it's a really good thing to have as an actress, but you're completely

00:32:20.780 right. There were no tears there. And this podcast with Jamie Kern Lima was absolutely car crash. I

00:32:28.260 mean, Jamie Kern Lima is actually a very successful woman, self-made billionaire. However, she is a fame 1.00

00:32:34.480 whore because, you know, she first found the fame by appearing on the first series of Big Brother 1.00

00:32:40.560 in the United States. But she's had that totally scrubbed from the internet because now she believes

00:32:47.280 that she's the new Oprah Winfrey. And the problem is, you realize these are the types of people

00:32:51.780 Megan Markle is surrounding herself with. And none of them are prepared to ever give her a dose of

00:32:58.300 reality. Like I, for my sins, listened to the new episode today of Confessions of a Female Founder.

00:33:05.160 You know, she calls everyone female founders. And I know you find that very ridiculous.

00:33:09.320 And it's with this British woman called Hannah Mendoza, who actually created a brand called

00:33:15.700 Clever Blends and Megan invested in her company. But the podcast is meant to be Hannah Mendoza's

00:33:21.340 story, right? But Megan spends the entire time talking about what it was like for her to invest

00:33:27.940 in this woman, Hannah Mendoza.

00:33:29.580 That's all she does. She only has on people who she gave money to so they can say how amazing 0.95

00:33:34.420 she is.

00:33:34.920 It's like she's her boss. So like Megan is Hannah Mendoza's boss, effectively. So clearly

00:33:41.120 she's keeping to the script. But there's this really awful moment where Megan turns into the

00:33:46.720 mean girl that we know she all is. And she mocks Hannah Mendoza, who's a bit of an earth mother 1.00

00:33:52.140 type, for turning up to this interview, this first interview when she gave her money in Birkenstocks

00:33:59.580 and a satin jumpsuit. And it's like, Megan's laughing at her about it. It's very, very

00:34:05.400 bizarre. And unfortunately, Megan is now, well, maybe it's fortunate for us, because Megan

00:34:10.720 is now the executive producer of all of all of all of these works. So we see the real

00:34:15.640 her. It's like an oh my god, you made me laugh so much with Maureen and in your version of

00:34:21.320 this thing, which is absolutely fantastic. You know, the moment with Mindy Carling, when

00:34:26.300 like, Mindy Carling is clearly terrified of Megan Markle, right?

00:34:31.120 It's clearly. It's simmering.

00:34:33.520 And so this is the thing. Megan Markle is only now surrounded by people who will tell her what

00:34:40.980 she wants to hear. And so again, the level of delusion is off the scale. But just remember,

00:34:48.000 Jamie Kern-Lima sits down with Megan Markle for 90 minutes, 90 minutes, talks about what a

00:34:53.840 wonderful businesswoman she is, what a wonderful friend she is. Not one question, Megan, about

00:34:59.180 what about these bullying allegations, right? Surely there now must be something in it. The

00:35:05.620 fact that your staff in Hollywood are also questioning this. At the very least, I mean,

00:35:12.120 I know she's her friend, and I know it's a different type of format. But at the very least,

00:35:15.440 she could have said, look, were they just lies? Were they people who were coming for you unfairly?

00:35:21.460 Right. But remember, we now live in this sort of dual world, don't we? Where there is the truth,

00:35:27.400 and there is what celebrities can put out to be the truth via their chosen platforms. And obviously,

00:35:33.900 there are great things about that in the independent space, because we can also immediately

00:35:38.720 analyze. And that's what we do and point out, this is not true. This is not true. This is not true.

00:35:42.680 But I do just want to remind people, Megan, for all of the times that Megan Markle says that she's

00:35:49.480 happy in her relationship with Prince Harry. And there's this moment where Jamie Kern-Lima says,

00:35:53.820 will you stay with Prince Harry forever? Will you be married to him forever? And her voice goes up

00:35:59.460 two octaves. And she says, yes, because she's lying. Because Megan, and this is something I'd reported

00:36:04.760 for years. I think we spoke about it. But she is shopping the post-divorce book to publishers

00:36:11.840 already. And if people thought that was some type of conspiracy theory, though, I always believe

00:36:16.520 conspiracy theories come true these days. Vanity Fair confirmed that in their big post-op.

00:36:22.900 Wait, that she's shopping her post-divorce memoir? What?

00:36:26.140 Yes, 100%. 100%. And in the Jamie Kern-Lima interview, she asks, will you write another

00:36:33.600 book? She doesn't say, will you write a memoir? She says, will you write another book? And Megan

00:36:37.740 says, a lot of people ask if I want to write my memoir, but I haven't lived enough life yet.

00:36:44.340 And what is going on there is that Megan doesn't want to have to write a book now, which would 0.97

00:36:50.720 obviously include loads and loads of positive stuff about Prince Harry, because she is preparing

00:36:57.880 for the big payday, which she knows will be a massive payout to keep her going for years and

00:37:04.620 years. I mean, Harry, remember, got well over 20 million for his three book deal. And that is what

00:37:11.980 she is proposing to do. And as I say, this is something I had reported for years and years and

00:37:15.680 years, but Vanity Fair included it in their recent profile of Meghan Markle. Katie Nichol,

00:37:23.200 who is the royal correspondent for Vanity Fair, is very clear that they weren't coming into the

00:37:28.240 profile. The editor of Vanity Fair didn't have some type of agenda. Remember, they'd previously put

00:37:32.700 Meghan Markle on that famous cover, Wild About Harry. There was no agenda going into this profile.

00:37:38.460 What they discovered was pretty horrifying. So Harry has been warned. It's like, mate,

00:37:45.520 get out. Seriously, Vanity Fair is reporting that your wife is shopping to publishers, a post-divorce

00:37:53.880 book where she's going to throw you under the bus. Get out. Seriously. 0.96

00:37:59.220 Wait a minute. Why would she be doing that? Because that would really show, you know, the crack in the

00:38:05.500 facade. Like, I have trouble believing that because she right now wants to maintain the facade and wants 0.99

00:38:11.060 us all to believe that it's perfect in Montecito, you know, welcome to Montecito time where we have

00:38:15.960 champagne with fruit dollops inside of it at all hours of the day. But anyway, why? So why would

00:38:22.380 she risk that news coming out by actively shopping? You know, it doesn't make sense to me.

00:38:28.060 Well, she's a deeply manipulative woman, number one. And what she always has is a number of business 1.00

00:38:33.360 contacts who are working on her behalf and just sizing up the potential future scene. And certainly

00:38:41.360 there have been real bumps in the road when it comes to the marriage over the past couple of years.

00:38:46.880 And remember, there was also a time when it didn't necessarily look as if Netflix was going to

00:38:52.040 stand by her. They already lost the Spotify deal where she was described as effing rifters. 0.95

00:38:57.200 And yeah, totally. I mean, this is the problem, Megan. Sometimes these things that I end up reporting

00:39:02.360 about Meghan Markle, they do sound too crazy to be true. And so there was that moment when it

00:39:09.200 appeared within the Vanity Fair profile. I was absolutely delighted because I was like,

00:39:13.520 okay, this is good. You know, like, it's not that I'm not the only one in the mainstream media

00:39:19.200 necessarily, but I'm like, no, this is good because they did not come into this with an agenda. I think

00:39:25.300 it's absolutely fair to say now that I do have an agenda where I'm not pro Harry and Meghan. You know,

00:39:30.340 they totally tried to ruin my life and destroy me because I revealed the truth about their exit from

00:39:36.720 the royal family. And that's something we've gone into previously and we don't have to do it again

00:39:41.140 today. But I think it's absolutely fair to say, you know, I'm not a fan of these two, right? But

00:39:46.380 Vanity Fair, they went in with a completely clean slate just to find out what the state of their

00:39:51.420 relationship was like. Now, in fairness, Vanity Fair also reported that for the moment,

00:39:56.680 the marriage is on track and they're still very physically attracted to each other.

00:40:01.000 I think that is something that doesn't quite tell the full story, which is that Harry knows

00:40:10.040 that this marriage is all he has. And he also knows that if the marriage were to end while the

00:40:17.680 children were still young because of the way the law works in California is he would not be able to

00:40:23.400 take those children back to California. So, of course, he is going to try and make marriage work.

00:40:28.420 But the idea that this is some sort of happy union is for the birds. He's a very troubled guy. He's a

00:40:38.300 very troubled soul. People are very worried about him. But the problem is the idea that his brother

00:40:44.460 is going to run in and save him this time is just unfortunately not going to happen.

00:40:50.400 Not true. Okay. Two things. Here, indeed, is the piece from the Vanity Fair cover story from February

00:40:56.680 2025 inside Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's big business ambitions five years after their royal

00:41:01.580 exit. Quote, a few years ago, a rumor began circulating around the book world about another

00:41:06.960 perspective project for Meghan. This story, which a person with knowledge confirms the broad details

00:41:11.720 of, was that Meghan's team had a conversation with a publishing house to gauge interest in the idea

00:41:16.960 for a potential book. The concept, for which there was no written or formal proposal,

00:41:21.660 was post-divorce. Not a general book on life after marital dissolution or one about Meghan's past

00:41:28.000 experience. This book, this notion of a book, really, might center on a post-Harry divorce. Not that there

00:41:35.260 was actually one in the works. Just if this, a priori divorce, ever came to be, would this publisher

00:41:44.740 theoretically be interested in a book that took place in its aftermath? Unbelievable. I totally

00:41:49.460 miss this. Another source with knowledge says, if that's true to any degree, she would have been

00:41:54.140 approached and not vice versa. No offer was ever made and no manuscript was produced. After all,

00:42:00.860 there was no divorce. But that doesn't mean they didn't shop the interest on what, you know,

00:42:06.960 there would be in a book. It's absolutely true. And actually, Vanity Fair sums up pretty well how it

00:42:11.500 works. You know, it's like, would you be interested in this? Maybe. But, you know,

00:42:16.920 Meghan screwed it all up now anyway, because she had Ari Emanuel at WME trying to save her career. 0.99

00:42:22.540 And he got so frustrated because she was not listening to his advice. So this is the problem.

00:42:28.360 You know, it's a long, long line of disappointed Meghan Markle, uh, helpers, fans, friends, staff,

00:42:33.540 etc. Here. Um, so contrast all of that with the way she talks about H and their relationship. Um,

00:42:43.540 here is it, is it, is it 46 or 47? Lauren, you choose. Go for it. 47.

00:42:49.960 Are you in love now more than ever, more than you've ever been?

00:42:53.440 Yeah. I mean, you have to imagine at the beginning, everyone is like butterflies. And,

00:42:59.340 and then we immediately went into the trenches together. Yeah. Right out of the gate, like six

00:43:07.480 months into dating. So now seven years later, when you have a little bit of breathing space,

00:43:13.280 you can just enjoy each other in a new way. And that's why I feel like it's more of a honeymoon

00:43:18.440 period for us now. Yeah. Do you think you'll be married forever? Yes. I have a letter. He's also

00:43:28.200 a fox. If you haven't noticed, my husband's very, very handsome, but he's all right. His heart is

00:43:33.500 even more beautiful. I love that your eyes are sparkling right now. Oh, oh my God. Dan,

00:43:41.220 I threw up in my mouth. Yes. Yes. Dan, when you do interviews on your show, do you do the,

00:43:46.480 the Jamie Kern Lima reactions? Hmm. Ah, yes. Oh my God. There's something wrong with her. 0.99

00:43:54.260 What? Wow. Who communicates like that? She's that she's the only thing saving Megan Markle

00:43:58.640 because between the two, she's even weirder, but Megan Markle, this, uh, this is a tell. Okay.

00:44:04.740 This is a tell. It's the same way on Valentine's day. You see people post like my rock, my life,

00:44:12.500 my life partner, the person who saved me. Guaranteed that guy's cheating on her and she 1.00

00:44:18.000 knows it. Like nobody does those over the time. Like crazy. Right. It's like maybe here or there,

00:44:25.000 but like, this is how she always tries to sound in talking. Like, and he's a fox. Like there's

00:44:31.140 something wrong. That seems obvious. Oh, totally. I mean, there was nothing at all genuine about her

00:44:37.660 response to Prince Harry. Then she's someone who very much reacts to what's in the media. I mean,

00:44:43.120 that was another big life in the interview. She claimed she didn't look at the media or social

00:44:46.340 media, but everything she does, everything she posts is in direct reaction. So for example,

00:44:52.380 even the new birthday poach post with Archie in his pajamas, which is all a bit odd, makes the point

00:44:59.360 that we held the birthday party a week ago. And that's because people like me are saying,

00:45:04.760 what the hell? Prince Harry is going to Vegas on the day of his son's birthday. What's that about?

00:45:11.800 But I did just want to pick up on one thing that she said in that interview, in that clip that we

00:45:16.320 just saw, because I think it is the thing that has really shocked royal sources. Did you hear her say

00:45:22.960 that when she was first with Harry and she's talking about her time in the royal family,

00:45:26.900 we were in the trenches. Now remember, we have just celebrated the 80th anniversary of VE Day.

00:45:34.140 In the United Kingdom. Now in the trenches, that's obviously not referring to World War II. It's

00:45:38.400 referring to World War I. And when you think about what those soldiers went through, my great

00:45:44.560 grandfather was in the trenches in World War I. He did survive, but his life was ruined, Megan,

00:45:50.720 because they were gassed. They lived in the most unimaginable conditions. And the fact that this woman

00:45:58.480 is so narcissistic that she can genuinely compare living in Kensington Palace, right?

00:46:07.240 Then moving to Windsor Castle after a multi-million dollar renovation to being in the trenches. I'm

00:46:15.900 sorry, you're a sick human being. There's no way you can be helped because it's the opposite of what

00:46:24.480 someone who cares about public service or what someone who wants to be royal should do. And I

00:46:30.380 just compare and contrast with the members of the royal family who we've seen over the past couple

00:46:34.520 of days be with these veterans of World War II because knowing full well, they're not going to be

00:46:40.640 there, Megan, for the next big celebration of VE Day in 10 years, because all of these veterans are now

00:46:47.780 in their late 90s or early 100s. And we saw Prince George and King Charles.

00:46:52.240 I saw that. Prince William brought Prince George and Prince George was asking situationally

00:46:57.200 appropriate questions of the veterans. Like they were thoughtful and sensitive. They were wise not to

00:47:03.400 bring Prince Louis, but the next in line after Prince William was so appropriate and thoughtful and

00:47:10.860 caring. They look great as they always do. They seem like genuinely good people. And she looks like

00:47:16.920 the narcissist that she obviously is. Yeah. And it's, don't you think it's odd? I mean,

00:47:22.340 Megan, I know you are very careful with, with your children, but don't you think it's odd that,

00:47:26.880 that Megan Markle talks this big game and Prince Harry talks this big game about the evils of social

00:47:32.500 media. And then they've decided to post Prince Archie in his pajamas. I mean, to me, that's really

00:47:38.800 weird. It's, it's a really odd decision. She's, she really needs to make a decision. It's like,

00:47:44.580 she wants, she loves being the mother of a prince and a princess. Like she loves that so much.

00:47:51.240 And she knows that people in the UK especially would love to see them. You know, they have a

00:47:56.240 connection to the Royal family. They don't like her, but I don't think anybody would hold it against

00:48:00.540 her children. They'd like to see the lineage. And they're technically, I guess, in the line of

00:48:04.200 succession. If many, many bad things would happen. Um, but so she just teases them, you know,

00:48:09.600 it's like, here's just the back of his head, even though she's making public figures out of them

00:48:14.320 because she talks about them all the time. And Harry uses them. My, my father's grandchildren

00:48:20.300 as a cudgel. So they're happy to use these children at every turn, whether it's to make money

00:48:25.260 or to make threats, but just to tease, you know, because what, I guess we can't see their face

00:48:30.000 unless it's on Netflix, in which case it's fine. Cause they do put out pictures of them every so

00:48:34.320 once in a while. I mean, it's really bizarre. They've shown their faces before. So, so yeah,

00:48:39.580 yeah, exactly. Really bizarre. And this is actually going to end up becoming a political

00:48:44.100 issue in the United Kingdom, Megan, because there is now overwhelming public support for Prince Harry

00:48:51.700 and Meghan Markle to be stripped of their HRH titles. And there are also serious question marks

00:48:58.060 about how on earth can Prince Archie and Prince Italy, but remain in the line of succession.

00:49:03.000 They are there. Now, remember the late Queen Elizabeth II, she used to hate Prince William

00:49:08.700 riding around with his family in helicopters because he'd do it. He'd go to, he'd go to one

00:49:15.140 of the, cause you know, he was a pilot and he loved it. So he'd go to one of the castles and he would

00:49:20.120 pick up all three children and Catherine in a helicopter, or they would fly together on the same

00:49:26.680 plane. The late Queen Elizabeth II was infuriated by it for good reason, Megan, because actually

00:49:31.860 we are only one tragic accident away from the end of the monarchy because the British public simply

00:49:38.960 would not accept King Harry and Queen Megan. But that is where, that is, you know, when Prince

00:49:47.660 William takes his, and look, I'm a big fan of Prince William, right? I, on the whole think he's

00:49:52.440 doing a really good job. He is highly irresponsible, allowing his entire family to continue traveling

00:49:59.620 on the same plane because King Harry, because, because remember once William is on the throne

00:50:07.680 and before George has children, you know, it is, it's, it's William, George, Charlotte, Louis,

00:50:15.940 then Prince Harry. So the whole idea and why the late Queen Elizabeth II would never be on a plane

00:50:22.520 with Charles is to protect the line of succession. Now there are loads of other reasons why Louis,

00:50:30.120 sorry, why Archie and Lilibet should not be in the line of succession. Obviously we love our American

00:50:36.000 cousins, but you've got to admit it's pretty weird. There being a potential future Queen of England who

00:50:41.740 has this hugely American accent, if you're to believe Megan's very odd Instagram videos, which I'm

00:50:48.400 not sure I do, but, but if you do believe that is Lilibet's real voice, she has a broad American

00:50:54.040 accent. She has a father who says that he's, she's never going to be able to come to the country at

00:51:00.040 all. And she hasn't met her grandfather, the King. Why on earth should that person be in the line of

00:51:08.680 succession? So this is potentially going to become a political hot potato. Politicians in the United

00:51:14.520 Kingdom have avoided talking about this for some time, but for example, Nigel Farage just yesterday

00:51:19.760 at the VE day celebrations, and you'll know Megan, he is now the bookies favorite to be the next prime

00:51:26.180 minister of the United Kingdom. And he was highly critical of Prince Harry and that interview. So I

00:51:33.500 think increasingly there is going to be more pressure put on the King to do something about

00:51:38.760 this. The problem is there has to be an act of parliament to actually remove the titles from Harry.

00:51:43.900 Wow. And to remove Harry and the children from the line of succession, it would have to go to

00:51:48.460 parliament. Well, what about the use of HRH? Because we saw in her interview with this Jamie Kern Lima

00:51:55.220 that they were celebrating what, what a thoughtful person Megan was that she had sent this Jamie a gift

00:52:02.300 basket. And we saw in the picture of it, her stationary, it says her Royal Highness, the Duchess of Sussex.

00:52:11.880 And it's got a little crown insignia on it. She loves being a Royal. She just doesn't want to do 0.96

00:52:19.400 any of the work. I mean, this is disgusting, right? This is truly disgusting because

00:52:25.240 the Sandrinham summit was an agreement with Queen Elizabeth II. So you would think if nothing else,

00:52:32.380 given all of their public posturing over how brilliant the late Queen was, you would think

00:52:36.320 Harry and Meghan would respect that agreement, right? And that agreement was very clear.

00:52:41.060 What the late Queen wanted to avoid was that situation. Do you remember before Diana died,

00:52:46.420 after her divorce, she was stripped of her HRH title and she lost her security. And after Diana's

00:52:53.900 death, there was a massive backlash. It was the closest that the late Queen had come to ever losing

00:52:59.660 the support of the public because it all just felt a bit cruel, right? Why did Diana have to

00:53:05.120 lose her HRH title when she was still the mother of a future King? And so in this case, the late Queen

00:53:12.980 thought, well, maybe we can do this differently. We won't strip Harry and Meghan of HRH, but we will

00:53:19.300 have a hard and fast agreement where they will just never use the titles. They will never use them.

00:53:25.060 And it wasn't just that they would not use them for commercial purposes. The agreement,

00:53:29.300 and I've gone back, it's still on the Buckingham Palace website, was that they would never use the

00:53:33.180 titles at all. Yeah, because that's what they're claiming. Oh, no, the agreement was that we wouldn't

00:53:38.020 use them professionally, but this was a personal gift. That's a lie. The agreement was they would

00:53:43.160 never use the titles at all. Also though, Meghan, don't you have to be a really messed up individual

00:53:50.580 to send your mate? By the way, she literally just sent a few punnets of ice cream, right? I mean,

00:53:56.480 nice thought. I'd appreciate you sending me some punnets of ice cream. Very nice. But how weird to send

00:54:02.680 a few punnets of ice cream and sign it off HRH. I mean, look, she's a messed up human being. You've 1.00

00:54:10.460 got to admit it. I'm going to send you ice cream and I'm going to sign it. The Time 100s,

00:54:15.640 Megan Kelly, Dr. Megan Kelly, thanks to my curious doctor. That's just how I sign my things. I just

00:54:22.940 want to make sure my titles are all properly accounted. It's so self-aggrandizing. But at

00:54:28.460 the same time, if anything they've said about the royal family is true, anything, you wouldn't want

00:54:34.240 those titles. You wouldn't want the link. The people who didn't care that I was suicidal wanted

00:54:38.560 to kill myself and basically wanted me to do it. The people who tried to have my husband killed,

00:54:42.600 who my husband is now saying would like history to repeat itself so that we could die. The people

00:54:47.820 who were too racist to love my baby and really concerned about how dark his skin was going to

00:54:52.720 be. And I used a huge platform with Oprah Winfrey to tell the world about how the people who live in

00:54:58.560 the country that I think is racist because of Brexit. Those are the people to whom I am HRH,

00:55:03.860 Duchess of Sussex. Like you'd want nothing to do with these titles.

00:55:07.200 Totally. And this is the problem. And I think William has always been very conscious of this

00:55:11.020 because you know, William's a little bit woke, right? He's a little bit woke. He's into some

00:55:15.500 of those woke things. And he knows that you can only ever go so far down that path. Because

00:55:22.580 if you really start turning into an activist, when you're a member of the royal family, what you are

00:55:29.360 basically suggesting is that the whole organization has to go. And that also means you lose your whole

00:55:35.120 fortune. And Harry, for example, has opened up the conversation of slavery reparations. Okay,

00:55:41.160 then Harry, you give your fortune away because you are currently living off Princess Diana's money

00:55:48.060 and the Queen Mother's money, fundamentally, right? And lots of money that your dad's given you over

00:55:53.080 the years. So just be very careful what you wish for. But the fact that Meghan continues to use the

00:55:58.700 crown and continues to use the HRH title is truly nuts. I mean, it does not add up apart from to say

00:56:06.480 this is a deeply troubled, narcissistic person who is manipulative and isn't particularly well.

00:56:13.960 And she has no sense of what she could do to actually win the public over again. And I think we saw that 0.94

00:56:22.420 throughout the show as well, because it's like, this is a great opportunity. You know,

00:56:28.200 Ted Sarandos, the co-chief executive of Netflix has decided to stand by Meghan. Now that is a really

00:56:33.520 odd decision. I have my own suspicions about this, Meghan, because Meghan Markle has befriended

00:56:39.600 Ted Sarandos's wife. They are in a mixed race relationship. So there is some type of suggestion

00:56:48.100 that Meghan was a little bit manipulative in terms of how she wormed her way into the personal life 0.91

00:56:54.240 of Ted Sarandos, because there's lots of other people at Netflix who look at Ted Sarandos and like,

00:56:59.360 what are you doing? Like these shows aren't even a success. Why are you-

00:57:05.180 How to put pretzels in a bag.

00:57:07.220 Yeah. Yeah. Like, and, and you're, you're selling jam, which is not going to make you a lot of money,

00:57:14.060 right? Even if you sell multiple, multiple, multiple jars of jam, that's not a big money

00:57:19.900 maker for Netflix. So there's a suggestion that it's this personal relationship that Meghan has

00:57:24.260 managed to sort out with Ted Sarandos via his wife. You know, they went to the Beyonce concert

00:57:29.040 together at all. It's, it's sort of how Meghan plays things that that's the reason Netflix is

00:57:35.400 standing by her. But without Netflix now, there, there, there really is nothing. And that is

00:57:43.640 obviously a huge issue. Authenticity is everything, as you well know, in this new world of independent

00:57:48.620 media and her podcast, Meghan has dropped out of the top 100 within weeks, despite being the most

00:57:57.760 publicized podcast in the world.

00:58:00.080 It's completely irrelevant. And listen, she's irrelevant too. The only reason we talk about

00:58:05.240 her is because they continue to create this drama around the Royal family about which we do care.

00:58:11.080 Some of us in America really love following the Royals and think they're fun and exciting. And it's

00:58:15.660 not that we want to be ruled by them, but I love following the Royal family. They're just fun. And

00:58:20.300 the history is interesting and they're beautiful. And it's just sort of like an escape of sorts.

00:58:25.060 Um, so yeah, she proud of our Royal family. And that's a big thing, you know, given the divisive

00:58:33.060 nature of politics today, and I think we can all agree, agree, sorry, that politics has never been

00:58:38.300 more divided. Don't you think it's pretty incredible that in the United Kingdom, such an overwhelming

00:58:43.700 majority of the country still supports the idea of this monarchy? It means a lot to us.

00:58:49.040 It means tradition and history. There are all sorts of reasons.

00:58:53.560 Because it's not political. Do you know what I mean? That's why at some point it's not political.

00:58:57.780 And it's like, you came in, you stole the prince who actually was in our hearts because we saw him

00:59:05.180 walk past, walk behind Diana's coffin as a young boy. And actually his popularity rating at one point

00:59:11.080 was higher than the queen. Like we loved this boy. You came in, you turned him into a woke muppet,

00:59:19.040 and then you tried to trash our Royal family. So there is, you know, she is going to go down in 0.93

00:59:25.280 history, but for all the wrong reasons, exactly the same reason that Wallace Simpson went down

00:59:29.680 in history for destroying another senior member of the Royal family.

00:59:34.020 I know these American women, they don't have a great track record when they start to date the 1.00

00:59:37.520 English princes and Kings. It's, I'm sorry. And, but you know what, we are paying more than our fair

00:59:42.060 share of the penance having these two stuck over here. And I have to say, I think this is probably

00:59:46.140 another thing that Harry doesn't like about living in California is sure. You know, I'm

00:59:50.980 sure when people first meet him, they're like, Oh, Harry, cool. But Americans are used to big

00:59:55.220 celebrities, especially in California. And they're not going to treat him the way the average Brit

01:00:00.780 would. If one of the princes of England came in, you know, it's just different here. We don't really

01:00:06.300 love royalty. And I'm sure he misses the cachet that comes with being Prince Harry and part of

01:00:14.500 the Royal family. As you walk around great Britain, it's not the same in Montecito. And there, by the

01:00:19.360 way, there are people who are far richer and more famous than those two all over, especially that

01:00:25.700 state. And I'm sure he doesn't love that. Well, no. And look at Taylor Swift, who you would argue

01:00:30.520 is probably the biggest, uh, celebrity in the world today. Uh, despite her botched, uh, endorsement 1.00

01:00:40.160 of Kamala Harris, she had a very clear choice and she chose William because Taylor Swift doesn't need

01:00:48.500 to be friends with just another. Oh yeah. Can you explain that again? What I, this, I vaguely recall

01:00:54.580 this, but I don't remember the specifics. So, so there was a moment when Taylor Swift had to make a very

01:00:58.620 clear choice between Harry and Megan and William and Catherine. So Megan approached her. Do you

01:01:05.380 remember when she was launching the archetypes podcast? That was her first podcast. And this is

01:01:09.460 when not everyone had really turned and Megan actually wrote her a handwritten note and her

01:01:14.780 calligraphy really begging and pleading her to, to be on the podcast. Right. And this was at a time

01:01:21.400 when she was getting some decent names on the podcast, but Taylor Swift made a very clear decision

01:01:26.840 that she'd built up this relationship with Prince William and she stayed loyal to William. And quite

01:01:33.380 recently in the midst of William's cancer battle, sorry, with Catherine's cancer battle, William took

01:01:40.140 George and Charlotte to Taylor Swift's concert. They posed with selfies backstage. Taylor wants nothing

01:01:46.620 to do with Megan Markle. And it's because people have had to make a choice. And even this is the most

01:01:53.840 interesting one to me, not a celebrity, but an awful woke politician. I actually think this woman is 1.00

01:01:58.160 evil, by the way, don't get me started on her. Jacinda Ardern, the former prime minister of New

01:02:02.920 Zealand, the country of, of my birth who locked me out of the country of my birth for three years over

01:02:08.000 COVID. But Jacinda Ardern, who Harry and Megan had desperately tried to covet and formed a close

01:02:14.600 relationship with. She also chose William over Megan and Harry, because as you say, people are

01:02:22.840 always going to, you know, people who are either celebrities or, or, or, or senior politicians are

01:02:29.180 always going to go for real royalty rather than fake royalty that comes with all of these other risks,

01:02:35.880 which are like Beyonce, for example, who at one point was very supportive of Megan furious that Megan, 0.97

01:02:43.080 I don't know if you remember in the Netflix series read out the text message, the really

01:02:47.600 crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And, and so Beyonce has turned down all of the offers to appear with Megan or be

01:02:57.720 on any of her shows. So I think they are really, really struggling. I mean, some, uh, rapper called

01:03:04.340 Megan the stallion, who I have to say, I have never heard of, but apparently she's a big, big, big deal.

01:03:09.440 Uh, even she is she turned up, but she turned down being, being on Megan's podcast, because I think

01:03:15.740 celebrities now actually know that there's no cache to being linked with Megan Markle. In fact,

01:03:21.740 it's probably only going to drag you down. And whereas being connected to William, you know,

01:03:29.100 the future King and pictured with Catherine and having them at your concert or going to an event with

01:03:34.840 them, that actually means something. So all of the A-listers, and there's a lot of them. I mean,

01:03:39.920 Lady Gaga is another one. They have all chosen to keep their loyalty actually with the real royalty.

01:03:46.940 And I think even Oprah Winfrey is regressing her decision now to align closely with me.

01:03:53.320 Ladies, I hope they don't forgive her. I really hope William and Catherine remember what she did

01:03:59.440 again when their grandfather was dying. She was terrible. And that was more terrible acting,

01:04:05.400 almost as bad as Megan's fake tears were the Oprah Winfrey. What? What? What?

01:04:11.600 It was awful. Anyway, it's so fun to cover them because they're just ridiculous people and they're

01:04:18.760 so easy to see through. So we have to do it. When they give us these, this fodder, we have to go

01:04:23.220 with it. When they give us the ingredients, we bake the cake and nobody does it like you, Dan Wooden.

01:04:27.120 It's a pleasure. And you got to check them out, check out his podcast. It's Dan Wooden

01:04:31.180 Outspoken. He's on his own now and he is outspoken and can be in a way that he never could when controlled

01:04:37.820 by corporate media and we support it. So good for Dan. Check them out wherever you get your podcasts

01:04:41.500 for free. We'll see you next time.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 07, 2025

Prince Harry's Hypocrisy in New BBC Interview, and Meghan's Fawning Podcast Appearance, with Dan Wootton ｜ Ep. 1066

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