The Megyn Kelly Show - Progressives Fail, and January 6 Theater, with Comfortably Smug, Josh Holmes, and Michael Duncan ｜ Ep. 338

00:00:00.420 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.440 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. Political shockwaves in California

00:00:17.160 overnight as voters say thanks but no thanks to far-left policies in some of the nation's

00:00:23.340 most liberal cities. First, big news out of San Francisco. We talked about it yesterday,

00:00:28.640 where progressive D.A. Chesa Boudin is out. The son of domestic terrorists who spent their lives

00:00:35.220 in prison after they helped kill a cop, well, three of them actually, was booted, overwhelmingly

00:00:40.480 recalled. Voters there rejecting his soft on crime policies, but he's vowing the fight is not over

00:00:46.760 yet. P.S. Yes, it is. It's over for you. Further south in L.A., the mayor's race is now headed for

00:00:53.480 a runoff with pro-police and one-time Republican turned Democrat, Rick Caruso, leading Democratic

00:01:00.500 Congresswoman Karen Bass, who was so popular not long ago, she was rumored to be the choice by Joe

00:01:08.220 Biden for his running mate and had considered it to be largely a favorite in this race. Not so much.

00:01:14.240 Now they've got to have a runoff with a guy who was a Republican about two minutes ago.

00:01:17.380 So what does this tell us about the bluest of blue states? And what does it tell us

00:01:23.260 about America that this state is rejecting far left ideology? Tried it. Didn't work out.

00:01:29.660 Joining me now for the full show, Michael Duncan, Josh Holmes and the man known to his Twitter

00:01:34.700 minions as comfortably smug together. They are ruthless.

00:01:39.840 Welcome, guys. Hey, how are you, Megan? I'm good. I'm excited about the California news. I'm so

00:01:50.680 mad at what happened to those poor people in San Francisco who tried to, you know,

00:01:56.060 take a chance on this guy, which wasn't smart. Don't get me wrong. But like people lost their

00:02:00.920 lives because of his soft on crime ideology. And he deserves to be booted in a humiliating defeat.

00:02:07.480 What do you make of it? Yeah. I mean, look, San Francisco is easily the most progressive

00:02:11.380 place in the entire country. Right. Except for the fact that it has been an absolute hellhole

00:02:16.660 over the last two years, largely related to their voting and who they've elected. And in this case,

00:02:23.360 Chesa Boudin, who was, I mean, got to be the poster child for progressive unenforcement of the law. 1.00

00:02:31.260 It was all it was all there. And in Megan's intro. Right. I mean,

00:02:34.640 the son of domestic terrorists like and he's the D.A., like only in America, only in San Francisco

00:02:42.060 would that be possible. Yes. And the thing is, is that his position was less soft on crime and more

00:02:47.280 just legalizing crime. It's yes. I mean, it's horrific what's been done there. And it's it's

00:02:52.660 not like it's an isolated area of San Francisco or as soon as you land, as soon as you leave the

00:02:57.900 airport, you start seeing what's become. It used to be a beautiful, vibrant town that like you'd visit

00:03:03.360 with your family. I remember my family would go and visit. You could go to Alcatraz. You don't feel

00:03:07.600 safe anywhere. It's it's it's proof that the liberal dream of this, you know, progressive,

00:03:12.840 you know, criminal justice reform is a failure. Yeah. And it's and and that cognitive dissonance

00:03:18.520 for the left has been really difficult to accept. And last night you saw a lot of that on Twitter

00:03:23.040 where you had all of these, you know, liberal influencers saying, well, actually, San Francisco is

00:03:28.000 a very conservative city. It's all because of these tech pros and GOP operatives that Chesa 0.94

00:03:34.080 Boudin got recalled. It's just they cannot accept it. Oh, yeah. Conservatism alive and well.

00:03:40.280 Literally six point seven percent of San Francisco is Republican. Six point seven percent. This was a 0.63

00:03:45.380 recall by Democrats of a failed experiment in you're exactly right, Smug, non law enforcement. 0.56

00:03:52.200 The guy not he worked as a translator for Hugo Chavez. His parents were domestic terrorists who

00:03:58.460 spent their lives in prison. Then he got raised by other domestic terrorists known as Bill Ayers and

00:04:02.600 Bernadine Dorn, who were the heads of the Weather Underground, a group that bombed United States

00:04:07.860 facilities like the Capitol building for several years. And people died as a result of their activity.

00:04:13.500 So what I mean, you do have to ask, what were the San Franciscan people thinking,

00:04:17.760 putting him in? But a lot of people say they didn't quite realize they don't quite do their

00:04:22.140 homework. It was like, oh, OK, I'll just go with him. Then people started dying. And the most recent

00:04:27.920 case that got a lot of attention, two women died. They were killed in a DWI accident by a convicted

00:04:34.540 felon who Chesa Boudin let walk with a slap on the wrist for a bunch of other felonies that he had 1.00

00:04:40.040 committed. And Chesa looked back and said, you know, gee, you can always sort of use the 2020 hindsight

00:04:45.420 to say, I wish I'd made a different decision. No, he didn't promise any changes. He loved letting

00:04:52.060 the criminals out and not punishing them. And of course, the results of that were always and

00:04:56.720 remained predictable. Yeah, I mean, look, it's been a long slide for San Francisco towards embracing

00:05:02.520 this kind of thing. And you've seen nationally, right, with the defund the police and everything

00:05:06.420 else, how George Soros has funded this network of prosecutors that basically don't enforce the law

00:05:12.340 in localities across the country. We saw that terrible tragedy in Wisconsin where the guy with

00:05:17.180 the parade was somebody who was convicted or at least charged and then released by a prosecutor

00:05:23.520 that was similarly minded to Chesa Boudin. I mean, look, there's a huge case of buyer's regret

00:05:28.720 happening across this country right now with many, many places. But he's so stark in San Francisco

00:05:34.640 because, you know, what was it? Six months ago, we had that school board recall. We had a whole bunch

00:05:40.440 of people that prioritize renaming your schools over actually teaching your kids. And that was,

00:05:46.260 you know, kind of an eye opener. I would have thought Chesa Boudin would have maybe taken a 1.00

00:05:50.260 clue from that. But no, I mean, he continues on his way of not enforcing the law. And here he is

00:05:55.220 recalled. Well, here's what he has to say about it in his speech last night when it was obvious

00:05:59.440 he was going down. We have two cities, we have two systems of justice, right? We have one for the

00:06:08.240 wealthy and the well-connected and a different one for everybody else. And that's exactly what we are

00:06:13.740 fighting to change. People are angry. They're frustrated. And I want to be very clear about

00:06:21.700 what happened tonight. The right-wing billionaires outspent us three to one. They exploited an

00:06:31.200 environment in which people are appropriately upset. Voters were not asked to choose between

00:06:37.580 criminal justice reform and something else. They were given an opportunity to voice their

00:06:42.980 frustration and their outrage. And they took that opportunity. Now, look, we know over the next

00:06:47.740 couple of days, the vote count's going to narrow. And we know that people were writing the obituary of

00:06:54.420 this election before our campaign even started. But we are just getting started.

00:07:01.400 Oh, Chessa, it's over. I mean, the thing is that he makes a good point. I have to agree with

00:07:09.380 what he said. There are two systems of justice in San Francisco. There's wealthy Democrats like 0.64

00:07:14.920 Nancy Pelosi and her husband. And then there's the rest of people who have to live with the

00:07:20.620 consequences of these liberals and progressives where, you know, this guy can get a DUI. We haven't

00:07:26.300 seen a mugshot. Imagine if any talk about Polly P here. Yeah. Nancy Pelosi's husband. Yeah. Tell the

00:07:31.200 audience what happened. So he gets a DUI. And what's really interesting is you had some journalists

00:07:36.460 look into it. So there was something like a four hour gap between when he gets arrested and when he

00:07:41.720 gets booked and they take his like blood test to determine his levels. And that four hours, I mean,

00:07:45.780 those numbers can change. The information still hasn't been released with his mugshot, which every

00:07:50.100 other person's is released, especially if they're somehow connected to politics. Are you saying they were

00:07:54.940 driving, driving them around town, maybe to Taco Bell for fourth meal? Yeah. See if we could work down

00:07:59.480 that alcohol level. Yeah. Get some bread in him. Let's see. Let's see how we can get you out of

00:08:03.340 here. Get him a cup of coffee. And then there's the system of justice that other people in San

00:08:09.380 Francisco have had to live under where you go into a drugstore and you're watching it getting ransacked

00:08:13.700 before your very eyes and you walk down the street. You can't take your kids on on the subway anymore

00:08:18.900 because it's basically become a den for people to shoot heroin. Yeah. Well, the other thing I really

00:08:23.800 liked about about what he said that what Chessa said is he he fails to understand like the basic

00:08:29.140 mechanics of an election. And that is like when you are in the incumbent, very often it's a

00:08:34.660 referendum on what you did in office, you know, and he says there, oh, well, people didn't get to

00:08:39.680 choose between criminal justice reform and something else that they were angry and they voted. Yeah,

00:08:43.520 that's called the referendum on you. Yeah. On you. The way it works. You're responsible.

00:08:47.780 You know, it's this is a recall. It's a recall. It's literally a recall. They can't even wait to

00:08:54.680 get rid of you. Yeah, right. We're so mad. You have to be fired right now. You know, people people

00:09:00.480 are dying and he takes no responsibility. And I love the billionaire, the Republican billionaires.

00:09:05.740 OK, that's what did it. Who got this started? Who did the signatures come from? And by the way,

00:09:11.740 you couldn't vote in this election unless you were a San Francisco resident. As I pointed out,

00:09:16.320 San Francisco is only six point seven percent Republican. So that's a lie. And, you know,

00:09:21.740 the Democrats proceed with this lie at their own risk, you guys. I mean, you tell me because I

00:09:27.600 listen every morning, as you know, I try to listen to my left wing and I try to listen to my right

00:09:31.880 wing podcast and consume news, print news as well from both sides and NPR. Their take was, OK, well,

00:09:39.040 he, you know, he lost. But it's a runoff in the L.A. mayoral race. You know, she's still in it.

00:09:45.300 Karen Bass, the Democrat. And, you know, in California at large, like it's still the Democrats

00:09:52.780 game. And this doesn't really tell us anything about national politics.

00:09:57.280 Yeah. Well, look, I think it tells us a lot about national politics in the way that the wind is

00:10:02.220 blowing here, clearly away from progressive base politics, which get played all the way from the

00:10:08.460 local level in San Francisco and L.A. to the White House. Right. I mean, there is only one brand of

00:10:14.420 Democratic politics right now, and it is off the left hand side of the map. And it starts in

00:10:17.940 California and it starts in California. That's what the listeners, the minions in California

00:10:22.360 will always tell us is like what's happening in California will be happening to the rest of

00:10:26.280 America in 18 months. Yep. Yeah. And so stopping it in California is really, really, really important.

00:10:31.380 Yeah. No, it's super important. But I also don't want to give people false hope about like

00:10:34.600 California becoming a red state. Right now. I mean, the fact of the matter is, is that there was

00:10:39.080 in the governor's election, you know, I mean, you had a couple of guys, Schellenberger, who I know,

00:10:44.760 I think you've spoken to before. Love him. Megan, I know we've spoken to. This is like an incredibly

00:10:49.820 smart individual who has some really unique ideas to try to get out of this progressive commitment

00:10:55.740 to ruining cities and try to re-empower the people of California. And like he gets like three percent.

00:11:01.960 Right. And so a distant third. And the Republican came in second now. So that's who's going to take on

00:11:07.180 Gavin Newsom in a state that is not going to go red at the state. You'll get waxed 7030. Right. So

00:11:13.800 like there's still some still some work to do. But I think in terms of national trends, it's

00:11:18.900 unmistakable. That's the thing, because it's like the point is not that California is going to go red.

00:11:23.720 The point is that in the most blue of blue states and cities, the Democrats have stood up against

00:11:30.420 their radical flank and said, enough is enough. We tried your crazy ass suggestions. People are

00:11:37.280 dying. Cities are failing. You can't, as you point out, use the subway anymore. The people in San

00:11:42.400 Francisco are just leaving their cars unlocked with signs saying nothing inside. So at least they

00:11:47.000 don't get a smashed window as somebody breaks into it. There were more deaths from fentanyl last year

00:11:51.940 than there were from covid. So they they've said, we tried it. We tried it. It's over. And Chesa

00:11:57.720 Boudin sitting there saying this is about a movement. This is a movement. He's not entirely wrong.

00:12:03.160 You know, thanks to George Soros and these other D.A.s that were watching in city after city.

00:12:07.640 They really are on a mission to open the doors of the prisons like Black Lives Matter has said from 0.88

00:12:12.100 the beginning. It wants no more prisons. They've said abolish prisons. Good luck with your donations,

00:12:16.720 people. And to just not prosecute crime in general, unless it involves a elementary school child

00:12:24.220 saying the wrong pronoun that they're totally in favor of punishing.

00:12:29.620 Yeah. So I mean, I've tried taking a macro look at what's become of the political environment. And I

00:12:35.060 think the issue for progressives here is they got about half of their plan done for for for progressivism,

00:12:42.200 which is essentially renamed socialism for it to succeed. They have to have a total control over

00:12:48.120 what people are saying. And they've done a great job of enforcing speech in this country,

00:12:52.420 but they haven't been able to maintain total control over acceptable speech. A great example is they were

00:12:58.400 able to maintain it during the election to make sure that any news of Hunter Biden was considered

00:13:02.880 Russian disinformation. But you had this situation where over the past week you saw a lot of publications

00:13:08.680 try to pump up Chesa, like the New York magazine, New York magazine had an article a couple of days 0.96

00:13:13.000 ago being like San Francisco has a conservative history. You know, there there have been elected

00:13:17.620 Republicans and you can see histories are conservative histories influence. It was over 50 years ago that

00:13:23.100 any Republican was elected anywhere near San Francisco. But the fact that they couldn't maintain total

00:13:28.620 radio silence against any dissent is a problem because you saw I mean, people who work in tech who are

00:13:34.900 far left progressives were fed up with what the conditions were like living in San Francisco.

00:13:40.860 They have for progressivism to work. You have to just part of their message is don't trust your

00:13:45.940 lying eyes. Right. When you see the results of progressivism in front of you, chaos, crime,

00:13:51.700 drugs, when you see all of that, they have to keep their supporters on message and say, listen,

00:13:57.180 listen, listen. If you talk about it, it's racist. And to what this for the midterms and back to,

00:14:02.900 I think what Megan, you know, Megan was talking about earlier is like, that's what Biden and the

00:14:07.380 White House are expecting you to do when you go to the gas pump every week. Exactly. You know, when

00:14:11.860 when you look at the shelves on the store and you see the prices are three times what they were a year

00:14:16.940 ago, you know, so the same problem that Chesa Poutine has with the open air, you know, drug markets 1.00

00:14:21.740 is the problem Joe Biden has at the gas pump. Yeah. And that's what's going to happen with the voters in

00:14:26.340 November. So can I tell you on the the point you were making, Josh, about, you know, racist and so on.

00:14:31.680 Kyle Smith writes today, the Democratic Party's pathological need to demonstrate that it feels

00:14:37.700 guilty about historical racism is the direct cause of the filth, crime and disorder that have come to

00:14:44.780 define large sections of San Francisco. It's like bleeding heart liberal no longer even comes close

00:14:50.700 to encompassing what they're doing when it comes to law enforcement and keeping our cities safe.

00:14:55.480 And they need to work out their guilt about what happened in America 200 years ago on someone

00:15:01.680 else, you know, not on the innocent citizens of San Fran. Well, look, I think at its core liberalism,

00:15:08.500 what it's supposed to be is about caring for people that are disadvantaged. Right. And making sure that

00:15:13.980 people aren't marginalized and things like that, a worthy goal. But what's been perverted over the years

00:15:18.480 is what you just said. It's this guilt that replaces helping people with hurting other people.

00:15:25.480 Right. So if you can bring down everyone to a point where the lowest common denominator,

00:15:31.300 where you've got crime in the streets, you're not teaching your children. Nobody has the opportunity

00:15:37.240 to succeed in your society. That's basically the platform that they've run on now. Right. And you're

00:15:43.440 seeing. I mean, it's a good thing that we are in America. Right. I mean, look, we have a healthy

00:15:47.980 history of distrusting power, even in places like San Francisco. And so speaking up, as long as we

00:15:54.520 have that pesky First Amendment is going to be a real problem for these guys. And I think of a huge

00:16:00.180 problem, progressivism. It's absolutely rooted in guilt and it's misguided. They try to make it seem

00:16:06.480 like these policies are compassionate of enabling people to remain addicted to drugs by providing

00:16:13.840 safe shooting sites, by not prosecuting dealers, dealers of fentanyl and heroin, not prosecuting

00:16:20.340 them in San Francisco. And they think it's compassionate in that sense. And it's a complete

00:16:24.880 misread, not just on the electorate, but if they feel that they're fighting racial injustice.

00:16:29.680 The great example is, I think it was Pew who had a poll drop yesterday where they asked Americans

00:16:34.720 whether they want more police or fewer police. And something like 91 percent of Republicans

00:16:39.340 said that they wanted more police, something like mid 60s. Democrats wanted more police.

00:16:44.740 But over 80 percent of black Americans wanted more police. Right. So the last breakout of that, 0.85

00:16:50.240 the last breakout of it, the healthiest portion of lack of no police was the wealthiest. Yes.

00:16:56.360 Because because progressivism. His name is Mr. Pelosi.

00:17:00.060 Yeah. But Polly P. Progressivism really is just like an indulgences for wealthy white liberals. 1.00

00:17:08.680 Exactly. That's what it is. It makes them feel better about the fact that, you know,

00:17:12.460 there's people who are poorer than them, basically. But also, it's not just that it's also wrapped up

00:17:18.500 in identity. Right. It's like we can feel bad for certain people who are, you know, poor if they're

00:17:25.160 black or a person of color, but white working class people. No, they're privileged because their skin 1.00

00:17:30.480 is white. It's incredible. Or Asians, Asians in San Francisco. They were behind a lot of this push

00:17:36.820 because they were getting killed. Like all the crime against Asians in San Francisco was actually

00:17:41.100 shocking in its in its numbers. And they they went to the polls and they pushed this. They must be

00:17:46.480 secret Republicans, all of them on the subject of cops jumping down to the L.A. mayoral thing,

00:17:52.360 which, again, now is going to be a runoff in a race that had been at one point considered hers, 0.97

00:17:57.220 the Democrat. He Caruso pledged to hire fifteen hundred new police officers within his first term

00:18:03.140 and to build thirty thousand shelter beds in his first three hundred days. Her plan

00:18:07.680 to reduce crime focused on criminal justice reform. OK, so it's like the same thing. She's going to she's

00:18:14.980 going to do what Chesa Boudin did. And I really feel like this will be an interesting one to watch

00:18:19.460 because L.A. too is incredibly blue now. But he Caruso's got the endorsement of a lot of

00:18:24.740 well-known stars. Elon Musk. Yes, one of them. Snoop Dogg and endorsed Caruso. I don't know if I

00:18:31.680 should mention Kim Kardashian. Are we saying are we citing her endorsement? It's like a thing.

00:18:38.240 I don't know. She's like a lot of these well-known celebrities are actually going behind, 0.90

00:18:43.000 as I said, the guy who was a Republican about two minutes ago and clearly just switched his party

00:18:47.080 affiliation because you can't you know, you can't win mayoral races in L.A. if you're not.

00:18:51.800 So that one's going to be an easy and interesting one to watch. Can we just detour for a second on

00:18:55.460 the free speech point you were making, Smug? Sure. That Fairfax thing really is disturbing

00:18:59.240 that Fairfax County schools in Virginia, a state that used to be red now is really blue. I don't

00:19:04.680 even know if we can call Virginia. I know they just elected Glenn Youngkin, but I think Virginia is

00:19:08.740 blue. It's not purple. It went red real fast. And I'm sorry, blue real fast. They are now

00:19:15.120 proposing in the Fairfax County schools under consideration at this moment, punishing kids as

00:19:21.420 young as kindergarten if they don't use the proper pronouns selected by their classmates or if they

00:19:30.660 quote dead name somebody. We're like Leah Thomas, for example, the transgender swimmer on UPenn's team

00:19:37.520 is, you know, lived the first 20 years of her life as a man named Will Thomas and was swimming for

00:19:43.000 UPenn as Will Thomas and was 554th. Now, Leah Thomas, 12 months later, is number one in the

00:19:49.040 women's races. So if you were in school and you said Will Thomas to the equivalent in second grade,

00:19:54.800 you would be punished. And it's the same punishment that you would get if you had like if you were

00:20:00.460 fighting, if you punch somebody out in class, they're going to mete out these punishments to

00:20:04.300 kids as young as six and seven. Now, if they and parents there are rightly saying this is a free

00:20:10.420 speech violation. You know, it's a religious rights issue for a lot of parents. You cannot

00:20:15.220 compel my child to say she, he, they, Z, whatever it is this kid wants and then punish him if he

00:20:22.980 doesn't. Oh, look, it's also a form of child abuse in my view. I mean, look, this is it's so absurd

00:20:31.200 from so many reasons. But the fact of the matter is, is that these kids, if they use the wrong pronoun,

00:20:36.520 it's not out of malice, right? I mean, I don't know if you've seen the like lives of TikTok videos

00:20:41.360 or whatever, where these people are given their pronouns and using it in a sentence. And it's like

00:20:45.000 an alphabet soup of misunderstanding. Like, I have no idea what they're saying by the end.

00:20:48.680 It's like another language. 0.96

00:20:49.720 It's yeah, it's like not an English language. And you're telling me that my kid has to be 1.00

00:20:54.400 concerned about this kid's identity at an age of seven that I mean, they're just trying to figure

00:21:01.060 out their own lives at that point, right? They're trying to read, right? They're trying to learn math.

00:21:05.340 They're trying to figure out how to get along with their classmates. They're probably not

00:21:09.000 interested in in like being mean about anything. They're just trying to get along.

00:21:13.740 And also, we just spent like a year, 18 months with these schools closed. And, you know, all the

00:21:19.160 studies are coming out now about how far kids are behind, not just in their, you know, arithmetic or

00:21:25.980 science or math, whatever, but also like their emotional development, stuff like that. Like,

00:21:30.760 let's focus more on that than like what people's pronouns are going to be.

00:21:35.460 I'll tell you what the end result of it is going to be. It's the exact opposite of what

00:21:39.900 they intend to happen. What they want is to have everybody accepted, right? That's what

00:21:44.160 they say they want. What's going to end up happening is the kids won't end up associating

00:21:49.160 with kids who have changed their pronouns for whatever reason, because they're just kind

00:21:53.420 of nervous about the whole interaction altogether. Right. And what does that do? If we're afraid of

00:21:58.280 kids who are different being bullied in schools, does that help? Is that is that something that

00:22:03.640 works? And I think it's it tells you so much about what the priorities of a lot of these teachers and

00:22:08.580 school systems has become is not making sure that this kid develops the necessary academic skills

00:22:14.880 that they need, but because of the ideology. Right. I mean, the lives of TikTok account exists

00:22:20.020 basically to show what's become of our school system. Yeah. You see these hand over by active.

00:22:24.000 You see those those handouts that it's like, where is this coming from? It's coming from these

00:22:27.920 teachers. It's not coming from the kids. And again, it goes with what I had been saying earlier

00:22:32.540 of how for for progressivism to work, they have to be able to have total control of speech. And

00:22:37.820 exactly. And they're sayings of like, you know, speech is violence, right? Equating it to violence

00:22:44.560 is how they're able to control it is how they're able to demand that it be equated to fighting.

00:22:50.560 It's what we saw over the at the Washington Post recently with that whole spat. Oh, we will get there.

00:22:55.880 I have listened to the whole ruthless episode on this. It was the greatest thing I've ever heard.

00:23:01.780 I want to redo it here. But to our audience, you should also download yesterday's ruthless because

00:23:06.420 it was awesome. The fun you guys had with that was second to none. But yeah, you're right about

00:23:11.360 the speech. I want to say, look at the difference between Florida and Virginia. You know, Florida,

00:23:15.760 you've got Ron DeSantis saying you will not put sexual identity or gender identity lessons in

00:23:22.180 curriculum in school. That's not an appropriate subject to be discussing with K through third

00:23:26.520 graders. And thereafter, it should just be age appropriate. The state wanted that. The state

00:23:31.300 supported that. Both parties. You go up not that far north to Virginia and they're basically saying

00:23:37.140 you must discuss gender identity with kids as young as kindergarten because they need to be told

00:23:43.900 to use the proper pronouns and not to deadname anybody. Otherwise, they're going to get a stain on

00:23:48.960 their permanent record and to judge bad people. I think there is a provision under the draft

00:23:53.200 consideration that it would have to be considered malicious. But does anybody trust these finders of

00:23:58.280 fact to be reasonable in that interpretation? And even if it is malicious, I can maliciously in the

00:24:04.020 United States of America say, Will Thomas, Will Thomas, Will Thomas. I can do that. It's not a nice

00:24:10.700 thing to do. It's not something I would normally do. But this is ridiculous. It's America. I can say

00:24:16.360 what I want. If I want to offend you, tough shit. That's how our country works. I love face

00:24:23.020 Meghan. It's my favorite. It's my absolute favorite. Look, part of the reason why Governor

00:24:29.340 Glenn Youngkin is Governor Glenn Youngkin is because of Fairfax County schools, right? It is because of

00:24:36.520 all of the like the reason that he was elected in the last he was trailing throughout in the last

00:24:41.960 five weeks, he closed the door because Terry McAuliffe stood with the teachers unions and

00:24:47.160 these school boards by saying, yeah, all this stuff is more important than your kid's education.

00:24:51.780 He had one message and his message was, we're not going to do that. My guess is, is that this

00:24:57.400 governor is going to begin, you know, you only have one term in Virginia, right? There's no real.

00:25:03.020 My guess is that Youngkin is probably going to make some pretty aggressive moves on this front.

00:25:07.500 And for some reason, why is it always, I saw this headline about Fairfax County schools. Why is it

00:25:13.200 always Fairfax County schools? Like what is going on over there? You always hear the horror stories of

00:25:19.500 what new like progressive nightmare teachers are trying to throw upon the kids always coming from

00:25:24.440 Fairfax County. Like Youngkin needs to just send the National Guard and have a takeover of the school board

00:25:29.900 over there. We, by the way, speaking of Terry McAuliffe, the guy who, you know, became infamous

00:25:35.880 over the past year for saying parents have no right to dictate what their kids learn in the classroom.

00:25:41.100 And they really have no rights in the school room at all. That's the guy who's on the shortlist

00:25:45.700 reportedly to take over as chief of staff. There are rumors that Ron Klain is going to leave the

00:25:50.900 White House. And literally they're saying maybe Terry McAuliffe, he's like top three amongst the choices

00:25:57.360 like, oh, that's the right message to send to America. That's, that's what people want.

00:26:02.240 We got a hilarious bit on this, which is like Democrats in power never have anything new.

00:26:09.100 There's never any new name. There's never any new idea. Like the permanent establishment

00:26:14.300 Democratic Party within Washington, D.C. has recycled the same tired ass names since the beginning of

00:26:21.320 time. Right. If it's not going to be McAuliffe, it's going to be Anita Dunn. If it's not Anita Dunn,

00:26:27.060 I mean, maybe we can find a Podesta out there somewhere. Yeah. Susan Rice. 1.00

00:26:30.480 She was on the list.

00:26:31.720 Over and over. Get Axelrod back off TV.

00:26:35.660 Paul Begala.

00:26:38.680 Exactly. That's a perfect example, right? Where's Carville when you need him? Although he's now too

00:26:44.340 conservative for them.

00:26:45.600 It's so funny because I had the ladies from Red Scare on the podcast on Monday and they're very

00:26:49.900 interesting. These gals, they just have a totally different way of looking at everything. And one 1.00

00:26:53.640 of the things they had said, not on the show, but in reading up on them before it was the Democrats

00:26:59.220 produce no interesting people. If you look at the Republican Party, you know, you've got characters

00:27:04.180 like Steve Bannon and Ann Coulter and it's like J.D. Vance. Like these are interesting people. Like

00:27:10.380 what's happening there? What are they saying? Why does everybody focus so much on them? Why are they

00:27:14.940 upset everybody so much? The Democrats really don't do that. They're just not as interesting.

00:27:19.780 And you can see that in the choices of names you just mentioned. There's so much more to go over.

00:27:25.540 You know that January 6th theater begins tomorrow night instead of Masterpiece Theater. It's January

00:27:31.040 6th theater. And we don't talk about that. We'll talk about CNN looking to a reportedly clean house.

00:27:36.500 Who's going? Who's staying? And much, much more. Don't go away.

00:27:44.940 So January 6th theater is tomorrow night. The fact that they've moved this to prime time just to get

00:27:52.660 more eyeballs on it is such a move of desperation. It's like they were like, no one's watching.

00:27:58.920 I was paying attention anymore. I need eyeballs. And they're like, I've got it. We'll move it to

00:28:04.820 prime time, which literally is kind of how this unfolded. And so now tomorrow night that all the

00:28:10.320 Nets, except for Fox News Channel, have agreed to air January 6th theater live on prime time.

00:28:16.320 They've brought in because they realize they're terrible at TV. They're boring. No one wants to

00:28:22.120 watch a congressional hearing about anything. Never mind this. Something happened two years ago. We've

00:28:26.220 moved on to other things. They've brought in Tom Goldston, James Goldston, who used to run ABC,

00:28:31.980 ABC News. And he's the guy who kind of took GMA from what was a more substantive morning program to

00:28:39.720 very light, very fluffy. It's basically about car crashes, bad weather events and celebrities now,

00:28:45.340 which rated. That's how they started giving NBC a run for its money. So the guy knows how to do snazzy

00:28:50.140 television. Not so sure he knows how to do in-depth congressional testimony. But that's their goal

00:28:55.880 is to get him to snazify it, you know, to sex it up so that people will watch and be as horrified as

00:29:01.860 Adam Schiff is. And I guess vote Democrat in the fall. You tell me what the purpose of this is.

00:29:07.440 Aye, aye, aye. Well, I mean, it really opened the full kimono and gave us the full look underneath

00:29:12.600 on this deal. I mean, they're- My eyes.

00:29:15.320 Yeah. I mean, they gave us, gave away the game. And there was that piece in the New York Times

00:29:19.040 yesterday that talked about how they were hoping it would, I mean, basically the framework of the

00:29:23.740 entire piece was they were hoping it would reframe the midterms, right? Yep.

00:29:27.700 Like, people were not going to pay attention to inflation, gas prices, immigration crisis,

00:29:33.700 war overseas, crime in the streets, and everything else. What they're mostly concerned about is Adam

00:29:39.000 Schiff's view on what happened two years ago. It's ridiculous. If they looked at a single poll,

00:29:45.620 they would understand that the American people don't want to watch it. And that's why they haven't

00:29:49.100 been watching it. Putting it in prime time, like, I just asked the question, like, do you know anyone

00:29:55.520 that would waste a night literally watching something like this?

00:29:59.520 No, of course not. But this is sort of the death knell, I think, of what Smug was talking

00:30:03.180 about earlier, which is the liberal dream of command and control over speech in this country.

00:30:08.120 And so you've got, you know, places like the New York Times who are sort of pre-writing

00:30:11.480 what they hope the outcome is from these hearings. Because, I mean, what they want is to be able to

00:30:17.640 decide what's important to voters rather than voters tell politicians what's important to them,

00:30:23.060 right? And it's like, well, the, you know, the voters of Georgia came out and turned out in high,

00:30:28.080 like, historic numbers in the primary just a few weeks ago, after Kemp passed an election reform bill

00:30:34.800 that you said was Jim Crow 2.0. And then we had a national conversation for weeks about this,

00:30:39.680 and it all turned out to be a lie. So like, no, people don't care about the January 6 hearings.

00:30:44.640 They don't care about what Joe Biden says about Jim Eagle or Jim Crow 2.0 or whatever. They care about

00:30:50.560 gas prices. They care about their, you know, their, their kids' education, things like that. So,

00:30:55.200 I mean, I think it's indicative of what we've been talking about here already.

00:30:59.080 And I, and it was, uh, I believe, uh, Yamiche Elsendor, who's, who's a journalist for, I think,

00:31:03.580 NPR or. She might be at NBC now.

00:31:06.380 She's around a bit.

00:31:07.940 And she said, it is our job as journalists to make Americans care about this primetime hearing

00:31:13.520 more than they care about gas prices or inflation, which.

00:31:17.020 Wow.

00:31:17.800 That's your job as a journalist. Your job as a journalist is to state and report the facts.

00:31:21.460 Right.

00:31:21.780 And right now Americans are seeing the facts before their very eyes. Every time they go to the gas

00:31:25.440 pump, every time they go to the grocery store, there were, there was a photo that was on Twitter

00:31:29.220 last night of someone at a grocery store that had put a drape over where you could get the,

00:31:34.660 the section where they had chicken because there's no chicken.

00:31:37.000 There's no chicken at the grocery store. I mean, this is like something you'd hear about

00:31:39.740 Venezuela five years ago in the news of, oh, that's awful. I feel bad for the people of Venezuela.

00:31:43.720 They can't get chicken at a grocery store. It's happening here. And of course, Americans care

00:31:47.660 about that. And the fact that the left is trying to pressure, they're like Fox news. Why aren't

00:31:51.640 you carrying it? They're putting it on Fox business, which already gets more ratings than,

00:31:54.660 you know, MSNBC and CNN combined. Yeah.

00:31:57.940 The fact that they're trying to force it upon people shows it's a political maneuver.

00:32:02.280 It's the thing enforcement is thing enforcement. You know, it's like what we talk, what we talked

00:32:07.420 about with, um, with the disinformation board, right? Like that Nina Jankiewicz woman was going 1.00

00:32:12.980 to be like chief thing and show to tyrant. Right, right, right. That's great. I love that.

00:32:20.220 Megan. It's not mine. It's from Chris Rufo, but it's awesome.

00:32:24.260 But like whatever our media betters declare is the thing that we need to discuss that week.

00:32:27.940 Like they have these enforcement mechanisms now tell us, no, no, no, you can't care about these

00:32:32.280 other things. You have to care about this thing. Yeah. And you know what I mean? It's not just the

00:32:36.940 Yamiche Alcidore. It's, it's, it's everyone, everyone in the media now says that, you know,

00:32:41.580 they're not just reporting history. They have to shape it. And like, that's, that's, this is the

00:32:45.300 result. There was no primetime hearing for 13 service members who died because of Joe Biden's

00:32:50.100 botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. There's no hearing for how much the price of gas is almost

00:32:54.900 doubled. It's gotten close to doubling since he's taken office because of his policy shutting down

00:32:59.220 Keystone and domestic energy production. There's no primetime hearing for why inflation has gone up

00:33:03.640 when his treasury secretary Janet Yellen said, I thought it might be a bad idea to just, just make

00:33:10.140 it rain dollars. Maybe that'll cause a bit of inflation. There's no primetime hearing over any

00:33:14.260 of this, which affects every single American. Instead, they have political theater of where they're 0.55

00:33:19.280 trying to relive two years ago, hoping it'll save them in this midterm where they're seeing

00:33:23.640 disasters because of all the issues they're ignoring. And who wants to see more of Adam

00:33:28.640 Schiff at this point? Are you kidding me? I mean, that guy hasn't had enough TV time over the last

00:33:34.500 four or five years. And he's just an like unmitigated, unrepented liar who lied from day

00:33:40.460 one on Russiagate still lies after the fact, even though he spent months saying, Oh, you know,

00:33:45.700 I've had this, I've seen this evidence of collusion. I can't show it to you, but I've seen it. It goes

00:33:50.240 in primetime and then Mueller report comes out and it's like, oops, no, none of that was real.

00:33:54.100 And then he goes back on TV to defend himself. You got the old man worked up.

00:33:58.500 It's true though. You, you, you, you have no primetime hearing, by the way, on black lives 0.99

00:34:03.280 matter riots. And you know, the 2000 plus cops who were hurt during that, they couldn't care less,

00:34:07.920 not to mention those who were killed. No, not, not worthy, but this is worthy. But I will say this

00:34:11.940 when I was at Fox news, we dominated in the primetime, just like they do now. And we used to have

00:34:16.020 debates on this kind of thing all the time, because when a big event would happen in the

00:34:19.940 primetime, we never wanted to give up our primetime shows because they crushed and everybody else had

00:34:24.740 these loser floundering numbers. So they'd be like a hearing, like a live event. And you'd always see

00:34:31.320 CNN and MSNBC go to it. And we would never do it because we were already winning. It's really about

00:34:36.540 money. And so I agree and with, and I'm not surprised by Fox news channel's decision to keep

00:34:41.720 their winning primetime lineup on the air. And if the Democrats want to get on there,

00:34:45.960 then they can buy ad space, you know, on 30 seconds of pop and it won't be cheap and they

00:34:50.240 can bring their message that way. But I'm sure Fox news channel feels no need to, to give free air

00:34:55.420 time to Adam Schiff and this theater national review called it an infomercial. Somebody else there said

00:35:01.080 it's more like a summer rerun. You know, we've seen this. What's the new information? What is the

00:35:05.940 purpose? But it also has no impact in the lives of Americans, right? I mean, to the point that

00:35:11.200 smug smug was making, I mean, can you imagine, look, these are, this is, we tend to think of

00:35:16.200 politics just in terms of the show, right? In terms of the campaign, terms of the ads and the

00:35:21.060 messaging, but actually these are elected representatives of the people. And can you

00:35:25.800 imagine just for a moment, these people are paid taxpayer dollars, they're elected to try to take care

00:35:31.040 of their constituency at some level. And they ignore it to the point where the most important thing to

00:35:36.220 them is something that happened two years ago over the absolute incredible economic distress that

00:35:43.540 their people are actually suffering. I mean, just that, just that alone is horribly irresponsible.

00:35:51.300 If you're a parent in your car driving from Walmart to a target looking for baby formula and you turn on

00:35:56.480 the radio and, and you're being told, Hey, you need to tune in to our primetime event talking about

00:36:02.680 January 6th. Are you like encouraged? Do you feel better? Right. Right. You know, is that going to

00:36:07.580 feed your kid? Honestly, it's not even like, I mean, it's not even like they've arrested hundreds of

00:36:12.720 people. The trials are going on. Like this has been taken care of, you know, they really just want to

00:36:16.820 get Trump, um, somehow disqualified from the next election. And it's like, why don't you just bat it,

00:36:22.440 battle it out with Trump. If Trump declares that he's running,

00:36:24.840 you can bring all of this up. You don't need primetime specials. Well, maybe you do,

00:36:29.000 right? Maybe you can't defeat him, but this is just a waste of our time. I mean, they're really,

00:36:33.020 they're going over the edge on this. In my opinion, Peter Navarro was arrested and says he was strip

00:36:40.600 searched earlier this week for not complying with the January 6th subpoena. They had him in cuffs,

00:36:46.560 like he's El Chapo, um, like Steve Bannon, same also got, you know, criminally in trouble for not

00:36:54.080 complying with these subpoenas. I realized at some point they're going to have to do it,

00:36:57.980 but there are court proceedings that are going to play out that can determine whether they must,

00:37:01.580 whether they're in contempt to strip search Peter Navarro over a January 6th subpoena seems a little

00:37:06.740 bit extreme to me, but, but Liz Cheney says it's necessary. Liz Cheney says, don't try, you know,

00:37:13.740 don't worry. This is bipartisan. And Liz Cheney says they're really onto something. Here's soundbite

00:37:18.120 three. I have not learned anything that has made me less concerned. Well, what's made you more

00:37:24.020 concerned? Well, I, I think the extent, the expanse, how broad this, um, multi-pronged effort

00:37:33.580 was. Was it a conspiracy? I think certainly, I mean, look, if you, you look at the court filings,

00:37:39.820 um, you do believe it was a conspiracy. I do. It is extremely broad. It's extremely well-organized.

00:37:46.900 It's, um, really chilling. I mean, Oh, can I get, can I go in on Liz Cheney for a minute?

00:37:53.580 Go right ahead. They're lining up right now. The three of them. How, how disappointing. Yeah.

00:37:58.440 Does she know what Dick Cheney had to go through for her to be handed over that seat? Like that guy did

00:38:04.220 not have it easy. He used to have a drinking problem. He was hanging up electrical wire. What in,

00:38:07.780 in Wyoming, he had no future. He clawed his way to the top of power. I don't even know what all he

00:38:12.900 had to do. You know, Dick Cheney had to do some hardcore stuff to be able to get where he did

00:38:16.260 right. To be like in the situation room on nine 11, making the call, whether a jet should be,

00:38:21.000 you know, shot down. He had to go through a lot. And now this is what she does with what she's been

00:38:25.740 handed. This is what she does. It's not just the January 6th stuff. I saw a tweet from her a couple

00:38:30.520 of months or maybe a month ago about how, you know, white supremacy in the Republican party or

00:38:36.500 whatever. Just embracing the left wing talking points from the media on all this stuff. Like

00:38:40.860 she's auditioning from MSNBC. Like it's, it's absurd. I don't know. I don't know. She might

00:38:45.700 be because her, her seat is gone. She knows her political future is over. She thought she would 1.00

00:38:50.640 get some kind of, see, see a problem with a lot of, of, of Republicans who think that if you just

00:38:55.360 go along and get along with the Dems, maybe if I'm nice to them, you'll get a head pat and they'll

00:38:59.600 write something nice. I'll be their nice little conservative pet. Yeah. They'll be nice to me.

00:39:03.840 No, no. Adam Kinzinger got like gerrymandered out of Congress. Okay. Right. Okay. He's the

00:39:08.840 other Republican on the committee. She's going to get boat raced. She's going to get boat raced in

00:39:11.980 her reelection. I don't see the Lincoln project putting up ads for her. Nope. You know, I don't 0.79

00:39:16.160 see any of these George Soros dark money groups cutting ads for Liz Cheney. Nope. You know, she's 0.97

00:39:20.480 just going to lose. Yeah. So it's like, what's the actual award for these people who turncoat on the

00:39:25.000 Republican voters? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Except maybe some plaudits from the New York Times.

00:39:29.780 Let's go back just for a second to the substance of that, of what you were saying. I mean, I love

00:39:34.880 the question and answer. Like, is it a conspiracy list? Is it a conspiracy? As if there's any American

00:39:41.240 walking the planet that's confused about what happened, right? That Donald Trump did not want

00:39:46.200 to leave office, felt like this election was stolen from him. Like I personally, my personal view is that

00:39:52.940 it wasn't right. There was a whole bunch of stuff that happened that was completely ridiculous in

00:39:58.300 terms of unilateral changing of voting procedures to accommodate a pandemic. And that could have

00:40:04.160 very well caused him to lose that election. It wasn't some sort of like rigged voting machine in

00:40:10.080 Venezuela, right? The summer before when all these governors, especially in a lot of legislatures

00:40:14.900 and without any input from Republicans, we're changing crazy voting laws. Yeah, that's when that's

00:40:20.300 when, you know, we should have had our eye on the ball and been like, hold up. This is a problem.

00:40:24.240 This is going to be a problem for the election. That's not being able to stop it. But, but it's

00:40:28.560 not like a secret of what happened. My point is like, you're investigating something. Everybody

00:40:33.080 already knows. Everybody already knows. Is it a conspiracy? But also, but also there's this

00:40:38.920 Hobson story. It's like, oh, you either go along with this ridiculous charade to try to like

00:40:45.620 arrest Peter Navarro and whomever else and all this like use of government or, uh, you're embracing

00:40:54.400 you think January 6th was a great idea. Yeah, that's exactly right. I actually think January

00:40:58.460 6th was terrible. I think it was an awful day in American history. Do I think that we've solved

00:41:03.620 all that? Do I think the judicial proceedings are taking place every day? I know that. I know that

00:41:08.800 read that in the newspaper, right? My, my, the biggest outrage for me in terms of like the Peter

00:41:14.580 Navarro situation, I'm sort of an article one guy. I think you ought to comply with the congressional

00:41:19.320 subpoena, but why is it only enforced against him and Steve Bannon and not Michael Avenatti during

00:41:24.560 the Kavanaugh hearings when he was lying to Congress and everybody else or about a, about a systemic

00:41:29.640 rape culture that didn't exist. Or Eric Holder when he got put in contempt. Eric Holder. Exactly.

00:41:35.080 During the Obama administration, nothing happened to James Clapper. Right.

00:41:38.800 Yeah. None of that happened. Right. That's right. No strip search for those guys. Uh, it's only

00:41:44.200 thanks. Yeah, it's a good thing. How about Hillary Clinton? I saw you tweeting about this smug, 0.58

00:41:50.000 uh, tweeting out about Fox news, not airing it. They're going to air it on FBN as we pointed out,

00:41:54.280 but not FNC. They won't air the January 6th hearing. She writes because they prefer their

00:41:59.420 sedition made fresh on site. My God. And the gall of her where after losing an election, 1.00

00:42:08.800 because she's probably the most disliked individual in, in human history, her, her ratings

00:42:14.060 were the worst among anyone selected to get the Democrat nomination, but no, she doesn't accept

00:42:19.820 her loss. She says, Russia stole the election creates this narrative. Her and your 10 and came 0.73

00:42:24.940 up with this idea that like, okay, we're going to come up with this idea that Trump is a KGB agent.

00:42:29.200 And now like her, her campaign manager, I hope he's gotten security. Her campaign manager said,

00:42:34.120 yes, I was directed by Hillary Clinton to put up this story on the stand under oath at the Sussman

00:42:39.880 trial. He admitted it, which we already knew, but it was extraordinary to hear him actually admit

00:42:44.880 that this was all Hillary's doing her idea. She made up Russia gate and the media ran with it. 1.00

00:42:50.220 That's the truth in a nutshell, right? Summarized. And now she wants to talk about,

00:42:55.060 you know, acts that betray the United States, please. Okay. Spare me.

00:43:00.860 Yeah. I would, I would love to have a subpoena sent out to her in a primetime hearing. I mean, 0.97

00:43:04.300 there's a lot of, she could be called up for.

00:43:06.440 Well, is there any, I mean, has there ever been more public information damage done to this country

00:43:12.580 than that? Then the result of her not being able to process losing to Donald Trump and therefore

00:43:19.480 engaging in a multifaceted four-year long campaign that ended in an impeachment of the president and

00:43:27.100 40 some odd million dollars spent on an investigation that bankrupted a whole bunch of people who were

00:43:32.400 targets of this investigation to ultimately come to the point where we find out it's all bullshit.

00:43:37.220 Like every single newspaper treated this to the front page for two, three years, right?

00:43:44.780 Like Russia could never have been so successful. I mean, they, they, in their wildest dreams, 1.00

00:43:51.360 Russia wasn't even top 12 GDP on earth, right? This is a country with very limited capabilities. 0.98

00:43:58.320 As we're seeing now, they're getting whipped by Ukraine. They can't even, they can't, 1.00

00:44:01.400 a country much smaller than them with a much less armed, you know, army military. They're getting

00:44:06.600 their ass whipped by this country. They have no capabilities, but it was built up by Hillary Clinton 0.95

00:44:10.140 to be like, Oh wow. Russia is this great threat that could absolutely destroy our country.

00:44:14.680 They're, they've taken over our elections and this was fed to the public and, and journalists

00:44:19.140 made millions with their book deals. You saw so many of these like, uh, journalists come up,

00:44:24.520 Natasha, Natasha Bertrand's a great example who now is what NBC has gotten book deals. All

00:44:30.140 everything she's written about Russia. Now, now we know with just completely made up David

00:44:34.500 Korn, who wrote that article, that was one of the, he's at CNN. Now he wrote a book called

00:44:40.400 Russian roulette. None of it true. Yeah. None of it true. They haven't ripped that off.

00:44:44.680 Amazon, you know, but back what Megan was saying about, you know, the sedition on Fox it. It's

00:44:51.040 incredible how casually liberals now will call Republicans, racist and traitors to the country.

00:44:58.180 Yeah. I mean, just like gutter, gutter stuff. Yeah. You know, it's just, it's wild to me that

00:45:03.740 that's become so commonplace in our, in our politics is to call people white supremacists

00:45:08.740 and call people traitors to America. Come on. Meanwhile, like, especially given the damage

00:45:14.900 she did to our country, to our unity, to our belief in institutions, she unleashed this hell 0.56

00:45:22.900 on us, the FBI, you know, the white house under, under her watchful eye and under suspicion for

00:45:29.100 two plus years and totally unnecessary first impeachment, you know, and then we can get to

00:45:33.860 the second one. She orchestrated all of that and now has the nerve to think we still want to hear

00:45:40.420 from her. Her HRH can go away. Her Royal Highness, she can go away. I don't want to hear, I don't want

00:45:47.380 to see her fake crying over her stupid loss or hear another word about her thoughts on the election or

00:45:53.480 Donald Trump. She's done. But Megan, Megan, think of the content. Think of the content. It would be so

00:45:59.420 great to have her back just for the content though. And the last, I mean, I agree with you. Look, I

00:46:04.520 agree with you 100%. It'd be horrible for our country, but think about the humor of her holding

00:46:09.220 on dear for dear life, thinking she's still relevant, you know, and then her cheerleaders in 0.72

00:46:13.740 the media and on Twitter would be like, yes, it is her turn again. I'm with her again. It's all fun and

00:46:19.900 games till somebody ends up on the side of the GW Parkway. Look, it could be, it could be happening

00:46:27.840 if you read, you know, and we're going to get to this next, but the NBC report on what's happening

00:46:31.920 with the current Democratic president is not good. The White House is adrift. Biden is mystified over

00:46:39.020 his poll numbers. He feels alternately frustrated, annoyed, rattled and unhappy. And that is where we

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00:47:26.460 four. So Joe Biden said that he doesn't understand what's happening. Why don't they love me? Why don't

00:47:38.700 they like me? NBC reporting, as I mentioned, this is a White House that is adrift. Biden feels his

00:47:44.940 aides are failing him. He's mystified over his record low poll numbers. He's, quote, twisted about

00:47:51.740 the fact that his poll numbers are lower than Donald Trump. He doesn't understand how that could be.

00:47:57.060 He feels he does not get enough credit for his accomplishments and that the GOP does not get

00:48:01.820 enough blame for what it does. Alternately frustrated, annoyed, rattled and unhappy,

00:48:07.320 upset aides cannot dream up a winning message for the Democrats this fall. Oh, and by the way,

00:48:13.400 does not appreciate all the corrections to what he says by his staff.

00:48:20.540 So great. That is a really good synopsis. That is a really good synopsis.

00:48:25.760 We've done we've done multiple episodes on this, Megan. And the funny thing is,

00:48:30.420 is that the media's first goal is to try to rehab Biden himself by by portraying him as a victim of

00:48:37.620 all of this. Right. That he is a person without any sort of agency whatsoever, despite the fact that

00:48:42.800 he is president of the most powerful country on earth with unified control of Congress.

00:48:47.020 Yeah. He's got the Senate. They got the White House.

00:48:49.500 Yeah. That somehow the problem is either it's a bad message, a bad message to jurors or that

00:48:56.700 there's just got bad advice. Right. That this is everything would be great if not for all of these

00:49:03.160 external factors that have happened. Life is just sort of happened to Joe Biden. Like never mind the fact

00:49:09.260 that like inflation is happening because of Joe Biden. Gas prices are happening because of Joe Biden's

00:49:18.540 policies. Right. Everything. The border crisis is because of Joe Biden.

00:49:23.120 Yeah. Even Ukraine. You could make a strong case is linked to Afghanistan.

00:49:27.860 Not only that. Yeah, exactly. As you just said, the entirety of the chaos that we have across the

00:49:34.100 globe is a direct result of the vacuum he created with Afghanistan and the ridiculousness of the way 1.00

00:49:40.600 he pulled out of Afghanistan, emboldening China, emboldening Russia, emboldening Iran,

00:49:45.380 all of these different like that's what he has done. Right. It is not happened to him. But that's

00:49:52.260 the framework we're working with here. Right. It's like Joe Biden's driving the car and you're in the

00:49:55.940 passenger seat and he drives it into a wall and then he leans over and he goes, well, do you have

00:50:00.200 any ideas to hunt and crash the car? You know what I mean? It's like we had a year and a half of pent up

00:50:04.880 demand of the economy because of covid and everyone was stuck in their houses. And then he spent five

00:50:09.000 trillion dollars and we got inflation. And now you've got reporters and you've got the Biden

00:50:13.080 administration being like, oh, these Republicans don't have any ideas. And it's like, I don't know

00:50:17.660 how about a time machine? You know, unbelievable. So true. I love the fact that now the media is

00:50:24.400 just like these things are happening to Joe Biden. Yeah. Passive voice. My gas prices are just happening

00:50:28.980 to him when he shuts down domestic energy producers. Like he shuts down Keystone. His day one mission,

00:50:34.980 as soon as he's in office, he's like, shut down Keystone. Yeah. Like we have to cripple our

00:50:39.000 countries, energy production and for the media to be like these horrible things have happened

00:50:44.480 to Joe Biden and his aides aren't serving him well, because we all know Joe Biden would never

00:50:49.080 allow these disasters, these policies that he put in place. He'd never allow it to happen.

00:50:53.580 But here's the confidence of Joe Biden when he's left to his own devices. He tries to start

00:50:57.560 World War Three by saying, you know, Putin can't remain in power. Yeah. You know, he he he says we

00:51:03.080 will defend Taiwan and which, of course, I know I think we would. But the fact that he's saying

00:51:07.700 that on foreign soil and then is and then his staff has to clean it all up. We were supposed 1.00

00:51:11.900 to be ambiguous about it. Reach a policy. These are very tense situations. And you've got a guy

00:51:17.620 who's, you know, I think he's been declined. Sundowning, if you will. Sundowning. We have a

00:51:24.460 we have a thing, Megan, we call bracket man and bracket man's the busiest man in the Biden

00:51:29.640 administration because bracket man's job. We talked about this. I feel like I've been there for the

00:51:34.700 birth of bracket man discussion. It's like it's going to clean up the transcripts. He's upset by

00:51:40.560 right. He's now mad that bracket man exists. No, you should have left my my remarks. And like

00:51:45.340 everyone in the State Department's like bracket man, you got to get on this. I love the thought.

00:51:52.400 I'm sorry. Forgive me. But I do kind of love the thought of Biden, you know, saying like, yes,

00:51:57.080 Putin needs to go. Receive change. And then seeing the staffers go out and be like, no, no,

00:52:01.740 we're not changing policy and being like mother. So bad. Like they go out again on Taiwan. Like

00:52:10.940 I was told I was in charge. I think I keep doing this to me. And like now, like, you know,

00:52:17.360 we always see this in these presidencies that falter. What really they need to do is just put

00:52:22.180 Biden out there. They just got to put him out there and let him communicate the way only Joe

00:52:28.340 Biden can do with the voters directly, you know, so that they can see him and they can understand

00:52:33.240 who that is not the solution. Currently, I imagine there's like some White House aide whose job is

00:52:41.080 is anytime Biden is actually allowed to speak for a couple minutes. He stands off on the side with

00:52:45.400 like a Werther's. So as soon as Biden's done, he's like, hey, you know, I got your Werther's here.

00:52:49.160 They walk him out and then the aides can come do the cleanup with all the journos. Right. He didn't mean

00:52:53.160 that. The Werther's blast is one of my favorites. I mean, they've tried this before. They tried it

00:53:01.140 on the election, you know, Jim Crow 2.0, the election reform bill in Georgia. They put him 0.84

00:53:06.560 out there to talk about it. Remember the event that nobody would show up at Stacey Abrams wouldn't show

00:53:10.940 up at even though, you know, the president of the United States is coming to do an event that didn't

00:53:14.820 work. Now they're into this January 6 hearing. That's not going to work. They're gonna put Joe Biden

00:53:18.620 back on the campaign trail. That's not going to work. So the reality is the reality they won't

00:53:24.340 say is all these problems. They can't solve them, Megan. They know that they can't solve them. They

00:53:28.140 can't say that. So what they got to do is they got to redirect the attention to the American people

00:53:31.540 elsewhere. And none of it's going to address the actual problems that motivate them and animate

00:53:35.420 them to vote on November in November. I mean, the biggest problem that Democrats are facing is that

00:53:41.180 no matter what they tried to say, they want to make this about messaging. No matter what they say,

00:53:45.920 right before election day, every American is going to go to the grocery store or they're going to go

00:53:50.020 to a gas station. Right. And that's going to help decide how they vote. Yeah. It's true. And there's

00:53:55.260 no primetime summit on that, as you point out, primetime masterpiece theater. Now, you mentioned

00:54:00.960 the press because, of course, they are circling the wagons. The NBC piece was somewhat fair, which is

00:54:06.040 unusual to see that like any sort of negative coverage of the Biden administration. But now most of

00:54:10.440 them are just running cover. Like it's really not his fault. These events happened to him. Poor Joe Biden.

00:54:13.900 Who could deal with this? You know, like he just inherited these problems and they were all brand

00:54:18.000 new, which is actually what happened to Trump on covid. You know, Trump actually wasn't to blame

00:54:22.560 for covid, but that's not how they talked about that happening to Trump. Now I'm talking about Biden.

00:54:27.000 It's like all those poor things. They just happened to him. And I would submit to you jurors that this is

00:54:31.940 why, in part, the ratings of CNN and MSNBC are truly at pitiable lows. MSNBC, they're they had their worst

00:54:44.780 week. And this is indicative of May as well. It's not just the week, but they had their first their worst week

00:54:49.920 this past week in the key demo, which is twenty five to fifty four year olds. That's what they based

00:54:53.720 advertisement fees on. So that's what's important in cable news in twenty three years. And I think

00:55:00.380 their worst May in twenty three years, their average in that key demo was fifty eight thousand

00:55:07.260 people. Yeah, just by way of like comparison, when I when I was in the prime time at Fox, we get around

00:55:14.500 maybe three million in the overall and about six hundred, seven hundred thousand in the key

00:55:18.320 demo, six to seven hundred thousand. Fifty eight thousand in the key demo at MSNBC, not much better

00:55:24.640 at CNN. Ninety six thousand Fox averaging right now, two hundred and three thousand. This is average

00:55:30.500 across the day. These are dreadful numbers. The American people don't want to hear this. They

00:55:36.120 don't believe these narratives. The Democrats are too depressed to watch television and it's having

00:55:40.400 an effect on the entire left wing business model. Well, I mean, I was just saying it actually makes

00:55:46.360 me feel sort of good. We're like three chuckle heads sitting in the middle of a conference room

00:55:50.840 here and we're trouncing CNN. Yeah. Imagine what we could do with a couple billion liberal bucks. 0.99

00:55:58.400 Yeah. Can I can I just tell you an addendum that's going to make you feel even better?

00:56:02.300 Not going to say who, but I did learn recently that a very well-known face from a very well-known

00:56:07.560 cable network recently complained to this person's agent that they wanted to do more in digital

00:56:14.460 media. They needed to get off of this just one trick pony of cable news because no one's watching

00:56:20.560 it and there's no future in it and it's not buzzy and it's not relevant. It's not driving the national

00:56:24.760 conversation anymore. And I thought, mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. I always like to tell my mom we have more

00:56:30.760 listeners and CNN has viewers, but I mean, it's heartbreaking that she doesn't get that. That's

00:56:35.280 not that great. You're going to have to start adding more networks because CNN's numbers is like

00:56:41.420 no longer impressive. But CNN's going to turn it around, guys. CNN's going to turn it around,

00:56:46.060 right? You read that news. They're getting back to the news. And this is like an audition period

00:56:50.540 now for the anchors who completely telegraphed to America for five years during the run up to 2016

00:56:56.800 and thereafter that they hate Republicans, that all Republicans are racists, that if you voted for

00:57:02.840 Donald Trump, you're a racist. That that was said. They have like a grace period to try to convince

00:57:08.400 America. It was all an act. They don't really hate half the country. And if they can now be fair,

00:57:14.660 they might live under the new leadership and keep their primetime posts and other other posts because

00:57:20.620 it's not they say that the two most on eggshells, you won't be surprised to hear, are Jim Acosta and

00:57:26.000 Brian Stelter. Basically, not Don Lemon or like Brianna Keller or whatever her name is. So anyway,

00:57:32.240 this is what's happening at CNN now. They're trying to get back to news and people have a grace period

00:57:36.500 to prove that they could actually be news people again. Well, it's funny. I mean, all this news

00:57:42.000 breaks in Axios, which by the way, Axios must have like an embed at CNN because almost every story

00:57:48.540 about this network comes out through Axios. But I will say like the new management over at CNN is

00:57:53.940 saying the right things in terms of what they should do. The problem, well, there's a couple of

00:57:59.820 problems, right? The first is like, can you imagine a scenario where these people are actually

00:58:04.360 auditioning for their job and now it's like the January 6th hearings? Like Stelter's head's going

00:58:09.320 to explode. He's going to try to comply with the new directive. He's just like physically unable to

00:58:15.220 do that, right? So like if he's there on Monday, that that was all nonsense. Like if Stelter's in

00:58:23.520 New York on set Monday morning, this didn't mean anything. But secondly, here's the other thing.

00:58:30.360 We looked at the headline when this came out. We looked at the headlines that they had across the

00:58:35.180 CNN website. You wouldn't believe I mean, it was like six stories about Donald Trump in January 6th.

00:58:40.660 Yeah. Oh, my Lord. That's what they're talking about. So like that's a lot of talk, but I'm not

00:58:45.180 seeing a ton of action here. Well, it's like like how could this fraud ever be perpetrated on us?

00:58:51.300 You know, I mean, you cannot come out and say you're all racists. The Republicans in this country

00:58:57.300 are a bunch of racist, sexist bigots who are too stupid to know what's good for them. That's what

00:59:02.100 we heard. Need I reference the Wajah Ali clip and Rick Wilson clip on with Don Lemon like, yeah,

00:59:07.960 Ukraine, what they think it's a crane. You can't find it on the map like the yokel stupid ass Republicans

00:59:13.120 out there. They're now going to ask those people to say we're good now. I'm back to the news. Trust me.

00:59:19.860 I got you. I'll cover news that affects your your life in a very fair and impartial way with the

00:59:25.800 same voices. Yeah, right. That's the thing about a reputation. It takes a lifetime to build,

00:59:31.700 but only a moment to destroy. And what CNN has done, this is the station that, you know,

00:59:36.760 for folks who are old enough to listen to, you remember it really came up during the first

00:59:41.540 Persian Gulf War. Wolf Blitzer. Wolf Blitzer standing there in the middle of a desert with

00:59:47.520 scuds flying over his head. And you're like, oh, wow. Like these people are actually doing

00:59:51.420 their foreign correspondent work in Ukraine has been great. But that's, you know, if it's going

00:59:56.580 to be Jim Acosta and Brian Stelter fronting this network, it's never going to work. You're going

01:00:01.180 to have to clear clean house. Yeah, no, I don't. I mean, maybe I'm crazy. I feel like Wolf Blitzer.

01:00:06.580 He might be salvageable. Jake Tapper. Fine by me. I don't know about Anderson Cooper. Don Lemon

01:00:12.980 definitely has to go. That Keelar lady, she's got to go. Acosta, obviously. Stelter, obviously.

01:00:19.120 The morning team over there seems openly biased. Like I think Chris Licht could potentially save

01:00:24.520 CNN, maybe, but it really will require mass layoffs. I saw the numbers about a week ago and

01:00:30.620 Tucker's rerun at 1 a.m. puts up better numbers than Don Lemon. Yeah. I mean, you got to clean

01:00:39.180 house. I love hearing it. Yeah. Well, so they're not the only news organization having trouble.

01:00:44.040 And that leads me to your favorite story and mine. And I know you said on your show,

01:00:49.720 it's inside baseball. It's a little inside baseball, but the audience will appreciate it

01:00:52.800 because while it's an inside baseball story about media, it's so indicative of the larger media and what

01:00:58.660 consumers are feeling and seeing when they read the paper, when they see television and they think,

01:01:03.440 who is writing this nonsense? Like who is pushing this bullshit on me? And I, and that brings us to

01:01:09.560 the Washington Post. So as you guys discussed on your show, this all starts with like interminable

01:01:15.700 pest, Taylor Lorenz, who once again caused trouble at the Washington Post. And then things just proceeded

01:01:23.760 downhill from there. So Taylor Lorenz once again is back out there. She wrote a piece.

01:01:28.660 People on YouTube and on the internet who benefited from the Johnny Depp Amber Heard

01:01:32.920 defamation trial. And in her piece that went to print, she said she had contacted two of the

01:01:39.180 YouTubers who she named in the piece. The two YouTubers fought back and said, yo, that's not

01:01:45.060 true. You never contacted me. And then instead of being like, so sorry, that was my bad. We tried or

01:01:50.440 whatever the real reason was. She blamed her editor. That was inserted without my permission.

01:01:54.940 It was a miscommunication. And you know, they were only, they were not the big features

01:02:00.200 mentioned in my piece. My piece was about many more important things than them. Just fucking say

01:02:05.300 you're sorry. And shut up. And then she's, you blame the editor. Then even CNN, Oliver Darcy,

01:02:19.060 far left guy, even he's had enough of her. He weighs in saying, yeah, she's like claiming, 0.95

01:02:25.560 you know, sort of playing the victim here. Hold on. I have it written down here someplace.

01:02:29.120 And, uh, you know, kind of, she did it. Okay. Here's what he called her out on that. Her series

01:02:33.700 of tweets, blaming the editor. And, uh, she was claiming when she blamed her editor, she was the

01:02:38.280 victim of a bad faith campaign. Here she, she's the victim, of course, because she's always the

01:02:41.500 victim. And, uh, she responded to Oliver Darcy with this. No, no, actually this type of coverage

01:02:48.300 is so irresponsible and dangerous. Not speaking about herself. I'm speaking about Oliver Darcy.

01:02:53.420 It's misrepresenting my words to amplify a manufactured outrage campaign by right-wing

01:02:59.440 media and radicalized influencers. Here we go. Which is driving a vicious harassment and smear

01:03:06.080 campaign against me. And CNN is gleefully piling on. Same woman, right? This is, she outed libs of 1.00

01:03:14.120 TikTok and then claimed she was the victim there. Went on MSNBC, said she's pulling out her hair and

01:03:18.720 she's plucking at her skin because, and she was near suicidal because Tucker Carlson once said something

01:03:23.120 not flattering about her online hate unleashed against me. She's in the business of generating 0.84

01:03:28.860 it, but she can't take it when it comes back her way. She recently claimed that the Drudge report was

01:03:33.660 doxing her and harassing her. And then Matt Drudge actually contacted her and said, who? And she was

01:03:39.060 like, nevermind. It didn't happen. I was a lie too. It was a completely made up, just made up lies.

01:03:44.460 Yeah. Right. So that, so you guys take it from there. Well, so not only, you know, was that a lie,

01:03:49.520 what she said about the Drudge report. She also showed up on the doorstep of the family members

01:03:53.680 of libs of TikTok, an anonymous Twitter account. Like, think about that.

01:03:59.280 There's so many, there's so many layers. Like basically my favorite way to handle this is

01:04:03.880 the way we handled it in our last episode is just stick a quarter and smug and wind the toy.

01:04:09.640 I mean, it's a very long saga. Number one for her to say, so she says that Tucker Carlson started a

01:04:15.580 hate campaign because he used her name on air. He said her name on air. She considered that like

01:04:19.760 a hate crime, right? Yeah. When her job is not only giving people's names who want to remain anonymous,

01:04:24.960 she, in an article posted the address of where lives of TikTok lived. And we all know why it's

01:04:31.340 because she wants to send them up. That's how the left works. And then they stealth edited it and 0.86

01:04:34.460 claimed it never happened. Yeah. Again, lying. And so yet again, she portrays herself as a victim

01:04:39.840 in the aftermath of doxing libs of TikTok, where she does this news piece saying that,

01:04:45.440 oh my goodness, it's like the worst people on the internet find out where you live and they come

01:04:49.860 after you and it's horrible. And that's basically her business model. That's what she does for a 0.98

01:04:53.620 living. And then in the aftermath of that interview where she famously like attempted to cry, you know,

01:04:58.820 when everyone starts making fun of it of, isn't that what you do all day? You, you, you know,

01:05:03.420 reveal where people live and try to send mobs after them. She says it was very insensitive of that

01:05:08.240 cable station. I think it was CNN. Yeah. The way that they portrayed me again, making herself

01:05:12.200 she's a victim. And so it was MSNBC and she's throwing editors under the bus being like, 1.00

01:05:18.360 I'm the victim here of, of a poor editors. She did the same thing when she was at the New York

01:05:22.740 Times. They, they must be so happy that they're rid of her. And she's doing the same thing again at

01:05:26.540 the Washington post. It's incredible what these, uh, these publications will put up with from her.

01:05:31.620 It's, you know, she's always the victim of every single article that she wrote. It's unreal.

01:05:36.040 Unreal. And then like, she clearly made an error here. She, she did not contact these sources and

01:05:43.400 her paper said that she did in her piece. It said that, and then just when she's called out on it

01:05:49.380 by media critics, by lots of people, even there, she plays the victim. But as you point out,

01:05:55.860 that is her MO. We never go to air without it. Here is that piece where she cried on MSNBC about how

01:06:01.920 mean people online are standby. I've had to remove every single social tie. I had severe PTSD from

01:06:10.820 this. I, I contemplated suicide. It got really bad. You feel like any little piece of information

01:06:16.660 that gets out on you will be used by the worst people on the internet to destroy your life.

01:06:22.220 And it's so isolating and terrifying. It's horrifying. I'm so sorry. It's overwhelming. It's really hard.

01:06:37.180 That is like, if you watch the whole piece, they all were like, I'm me too. I'm a victim too. And I'm

01:06:41.740 journalism overacting because I mean, that was just this poor attempt trying to cry.

01:06:48.360 I almost want to say, okay, Amber. And that's the thing is, so this latest instance of where

01:06:56.760 she in the, in the article claim that she reached out to these people, she made the unfortunate mistake

01:07:02.440 of, of two things. Number one, these are two attorneys. These are attorneys who are giving

01:07:06.400 their like opinion as lawyers on a trial, on a trial, which, which comes a lot more credit than

01:07:12.500 some, you know, just a middle-aged lady who I think they might have a better idea and handle on this. 1.00

01:07:17.660 Right. And, and so she says that, uh, she's the victim somehow. The problem is these people and

01:07:23.800 the way that the media is going in general, you know, Taylor counts on, on being at the Washington

01:07:28.680 Post, an institution for journalism. Yeah. That she can just do this to people. Well, they've built 1.00

01:07:35.440 their own audiences online. They have their own communities and they're fortunate for that because

01:07:39.940 they can get out their side of the story and how Taylor lied normally. And what Taylor does to

01:07:45.840 many people who aren't in that position, she finds a regular person who doesn't have their own

01:07:50.480 audience that can, doesn't have a platform, doesn't have a megaphone and she attacks them 0.91

01:07:54.660 and ruins their lives. And nobody's letting that person back on TV to talk about their PTSD from

01:08:00.200 losing their job and their livelihood. Nobody cares about them. But Taylor Lorenz gets to go on national 0.98

01:08:04.500 TV and cry about how unfair her life is. This is someone who went to a Swiss boarding school.

01:08:09.900 And she had a tweet about how she's like, as a middle-class individual, she went to an 80,000

01:08:14.120 a year Swiss boarding school. If that's middle class, I mean, I want to hang out with your

01:08:17.720 friends. You know what year she graduated, Smug? Sometime in the twenties, right? 0.84

01:08:23.080 Unbelievable. Wait, it's funny because she tries to paint herself as this ageless, she wants to be

01:08:31.900 like a Gen Z-er. And she's not. She's like, I think she's a boomer. I don't know what she is, 0.77

01:08:37.180 but she's, she's at least in her mid to late forties, according to most reports. 0.68

01:08:41.760 But she refuses to just say what her age is. And so now it's become this like continuing thing

01:08:46.840 where it's like, just tell us what your age is.

01:08:48.860 What was your line?

01:08:49.560 My producer's saying mid to late thirties. See, I don't know. That's the, that's the thing about

01:08:52.860 Taylor. She's like erased all record.

01:08:55.520 We said this on, on the episode two days ago, I think Megan, um, that somebody on Twitter said that,

01:09:01.120 that Taylor Lorenz has this same birth, a medieval King in or about this 10 year period.

01:09:08.820 It's because she said her age is one thing to like the New York times. She says her age is a

01:09:13.360 different thing to the Washington post. And like, uh, even on the internet archive, she has sent a

01:09:18.900 letter to them to remove. They can't archive any reference to Taylor Lorenz. It's insane.

01:09:23.940 Yeah. So she tries to remove any trace of herself on the internet, but her job is to try to go through

01:09:28.800 everyone else's internet history. It's a protection racket. And the whole, the media

01:09:33.120 reporting industry, like Oliver Darcy and these people and God bless them for trying on, on Taylor

01:09:38.100 Lorenz, but it's, it's such an insular world. It's getting really hard to get serious media reporting

01:09:43.120 about media. And that's why shows like ruthless and you Megan are so important for people to hear

01:09:49.380 because these folks won't really criticize each other. They won't hold each other accountable.

01:09:54.320 And that's the real problem with their industry. This, this method of you being the wrongdoer

01:09:59.860 and then claiming that you're the victim when people call out your BS, you know, your errors,

01:10:05.620 your, your bad behavior is so trendy. And that brings us to stage two of the Washington post

01:10:12.360 meltdown, um, which is the greatest. It's like, you didn't see this one coming, right? It's like,

01:10:16.920 wait, what, what's happening. Um, and I love, it's like, I was listening to you guys. I think it was

01:10:22.040 smug who said something about like this Felicia woman who's got behind this whole, like Washington 1.00

01:10:26.940 post is being exploded from the inside. You're like, I love her. Go Felicia. She's an absolute 0.87

01:10:31.900 hero. She's holding accountable the like, you know, systems of power and justice within the 1.00

01:10:37.580 Washington post. So tell us what happens. Start with step one of that saga. There was a retweet

01:10:43.940 by this guy named Dave Weigel and explain what happened. Oh, so Dave Weigel has this retweets a

01:10:53.760 tweet that's on the internet. It was, it was like all women are by bipolar or bisexual. You just have 1.00

01:10:59.820 to figure out whether it's polar or sexual or something like that. Like clearly a joke, right?

01:11:04.540 And he's at WAPO. Yeah. Yeah. He's also a Washington post journalist, uh, who happened to

01:11:10.720 defend Felicia saw him as when she got herself into some hot water about tweeting about, uh,

01:11:17.780 Kobe Bryant's rape allegations as the helicopter is still on fire. Right. And just like the most

01:11:25.420 tasteless thing, then this is where Felicia comes in. She calls him out on Twitter, right? For

01:11:30.760 retweeting. He defended her. Now he comes under scrutiny because he retweeted, you know, a stupid

01:11:36.280 joke is fine. Um, and instead of like just being silent or whatever she, she piles on,

01:11:42.580 she tries to create a shit storm for him. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who are

01:11:47.740 terminally offended by everything else that somebody else does. Like just take care of yourself,

01:11:51.900 but let's just, we live in a world where everybody's permanently offended. So let's just

01:11:55.820 pretend you're like, you are offended by this. Most people in their workplace would go to that

01:12:01.320 person and say, please don't do that. It's offensive to me. Like, I feel like it means

01:12:06.100 women, what have you, if that didn't work or you didn't feel comfortable about it, I guess you'd talk 1.00

01:12:10.480 to an editor or something like that and be like, Hey, you know, can we just try to have an internet

01:12:14.900 policy or something? So we don't have this kind of thing. That's what most people would do. Not this

01:12:19.820 lady. She's like, it's time to burn. She's like, I'm taking this fucker down to the studs. 1.00

01:12:25.520 And not just, and not, and not, not just quote tweeting him and saying, I don't think this

01:12:30.500 appropriate, like saying, I can't believe this is allowed in my workplace. She's like, I love

01:12:36.020 working somewhere like this. And she shared a byline with him like a couple of weeks. I mean,

01:12:42.200 that's just beautiful. That's how I knew. Okay. We got, we got, we, this is a live one. This is

01:12:47.340 going to be a problem over here. And so despite where like every blue check on Twitter jumps into the

01:12:54.860 ring and you got to pick a side, you know, the thing is that Weigel, you know, he's been at this

01:12:59.020 game for a while. So we mentioned on the show, he used to be at the Washington post and was let go

01:13:04.600 because he was part of this group called journal list. When, when, when president Obama was running

01:13:09.060 the first time in 08, there's a list serve that basically allowed all of these left-wing

01:13:12.480 journalists to coordinate talking points and help elect Barack Obama. Their purpose, their state

01:13:16.100 purpose was to elect Obama journalists. And so when, when this came to light, Dave Weigel was let go.

01:13:22.920 And so he had to go to other publications, whatever. And then he makes his way back to

01:13:26.540 the Washington post. Of course. Can you get rehired after that? Yeah,

01:13:29.120 a funny little wrinkle about that is his job was as a conservative to cover conservatives,

01:13:35.580 right? And when he was fired, guess who he was replaced by? Jennifer Ruba.

01:13:41.000 So they got a real hot hand over at the Washington post for getting conservative

01:13:45.360 visionary. But what happens here is that it's not just like a one-off thing.

01:13:52.500 And she proceeds to go on like a Steve Schmidt, like Twitter tirade over like 72 hours where 1.00

01:13:59.380 she's laying waste to Dave Weigel, all of her editors or colleagues, people are chiming in

01:14:04.640 like, please, for the love of God, stop. And she won't. Her bloodlust is unquenchable. 0.91

01:14:09.160 I mean, she's still going. I think now she was at least last night. And I mean, like other

01:14:13.700 reports, she's been like, you know, like, first of all, Dave Weigel deleted it. He apologized

01:14:17.980 for it. He's groveled on his hands and knees to be like, please just stop. And she's like,

01:14:22.860 no, more. The entire institution must burn. And so then Weigel gets he gets unpaid, sent away for

01:14:30.600 for a month from the Washington Post. They give him a suspension one month, no pay over the retweet.

01:14:36.000 Yeah, for the retweet. And then she's like, okay, who's next? And there was a co worker who put out

01:14:43.460 this string of tweets where he was like, okay, everyone just like, calm down at the Washington

01:14:47.340 Post. He's a journalist there. Yeah. He's like, everybody just calm down.

01:14:50.400 Jose, right? Yeah, Jose. Jose Real. And then she quote retweets him. She's like,

01:14:55.640 how dare you? How dare you tell me to calm down? Like, don't you realize this is just more abuse

01:15:04.360 for me? And then she gets the blue checks to come after him. He has to delete his account.

01:15:08.180 This guy. But first he's like, Hispanic and gay. Stop it. Yeah, you can't. And that doesn't work. 1.00

01:15:16.320 And Megan, all he's saying is like, can we just be kinder to each other? Yeah. Like,

01:15:20.060 that's the offensive thing he said. Super offensive. And so she's like, here's how I'm

01:15:23.960 kicking off Pride Month. I'm going to get the only he says, I'm the only like, gay Mexican

01:15:28.740 reporter at the Washington Post or something. She's like, happy Pride Month. 0.96

01:15:33.960 So she sends a mob after him. And now she's continuing it. Like, like, she's keeping like, 0.68

01:15:40.400 she quote retweets him again and again. She's like, Oh, wow, he blocked me. What an abusive 1.00

01:15:44.580 place is the Washington Post. Like, yesterday, the Washington Post.

01:15:48.400 Yes, get to that because that's a fun piece.

01:15:50.980 Yeah. So the Washington Post basically sends like an internal email. They're editors of like,

01:15:55.860 we demand a like collegial friendly environment. We demand.

01:15:59.220 And then you see at like the exact same time, all reporters of the Washington Post,

01:16:03.480 they must have been told. They're just like tweeting from a script.

01:16:05.580 Yeah. They're like, I enjoy working at the Washington Post. While not a perfect institution,

01:16:10.080 I enjoy the collegial environment. It is collegial. And it is, it's like, hold up a

01:16:14.420 copy of today's newspaper and blink twice if you're alive. It's like at gunpoint, they're forced to

01:16:20.960 send out these like hostage letters of like, I enjoy working at Washington Post.

01:16:25.160 So true.

01:16:26.320 Yeah. So okay, to fill that in a little. Sally Busby is the executive editor for the Washington

01:16:32.760 Post. And she sends out a dear colleague's letter. In this newsroom, we share many important

01:16:37.360 common values. I believe in the power of journalism, hatred of racist or sexist behavior,

01:16:41.380 language or systems, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We do not tolerate this is quoting from like

01:16:45.900 the handbook. We do not tolerate colleagues attacking colleagues, either face to face or

01:16:50.180 online. Respect for others is critical to any civil society, including our newsroom. We also do not

01:16:55.260 tolerate violations of the policy prohibiting workplace harassment and or discrimination and so on.

01:17:00.500 And then she goes on and says, please be constructive if there's an issue with your colleague

01:17:06.020 colleague and and collegial. If you have a question or concern about something that has

01:17:10.100 been published, speak to your colleague directly, which, by the way, Felicia apparently also did

01:17:15.020 that. She she lit him up on her private email on the internal slack publicly like she she did have

01:17:20.520 the flamethrower out. And then to your point about the weird steppardy tweets, here's I'm just going

01:17:27.660 to pull from there's like eight here in front of me. I'm deeply proud to be a part of the Washington

01:17:31.200 Post. The post is not perfect, but I love coming to work almost every single day.

01:17:34.620 My colleagues are collegial. There's the word collegial. They are collaborative. They are fun

01:17:39.100 humans. No institution is perfect, including the post. But the place is filled with many terrific

01:17:44.400 people who are smart and collegial. There it is again. I am proud to work here. Another person.

01:17:48.540 I am proud to work here. Another person. Collegiality and collaboration long have been

01:17:52.860 hallmarks of the post culture. It is filled with good and talented people. I'm proud and lucky to work

01:17:57.360 here. Another person. The post newsroom is filled with collegial collaborative respect. What the hell?

01:18:02.840 I don't. I very much enjoy collegial work with fun humans. I mean, that sounds very normal.

01:18:12.320 Meanwhile, she's like, fuck that. And then she's light them up too.

01:18:16.860 I mean, what's so amazing is like Busty puts out this thing where she literally is like, 1.00

01:18:23.820 please, like we do not tolerate workplace intimidation. Well, she's tolerating the shit out of this 1.00

01:18:29.060 because Felicia Sonmez is absolutely flamethrowing the entire staff. I mean, literally, there's nobody 1.00

01:18:35.260 standing. It's incredible. It's just incredible to me that a newsroom could just become a daycare

01:18:41.760 so quickly. I mean, this is just like some of the most childish behavior from people who are supposed

01:18:45.780 to be adults and professionals at the serious publication. And this is why I enjoy it so much

01:18:50.060 and why I back Felicia in this is because this has been a long time coming. This this infantilizing

01:18:55.500 of journalism where all these editors now are terrified of the zoomers in the slack, right? 1.00

01:19:00.660 They're scared of the kids in the slack who are all like unionizing, like, oh, my God,

01:19:05.080 sitting at your laptop is not being a coal miner. You don't need to be a member of a union.

01:19:08.780 Right. You're not a lot. You're not a longshoreman. Yeah.

01:19:13.440 Like this goes back to the New York Times in the slack after Tom Cotton had that that opinion piece.

01:19:19.320 I believe people who commit crime should be in jail. Right. And they had a slack revolt against

01:19:27.100 the editor quit. The editor quit. And now we're seeing the continuation of that here at the

01:19:31.700 Washington Post. And yeah, I mean, I I didn't agree with it at the beginning, but smug has convinced

01:19:36.480 me to his side that let it all burn. This is fantastic. We love I want Felicia to continue on

01:19:41.860 this. It's like just tear burn the whole place down. I think it's like Highlander where it's just

01:19:45.640 going to be in the end. Her and Taylor left. Oh, there can only be that. That brings me to my

01:19:50.920 question. So Dave Weigel, who retweeted this like one line tweet of all women are by either

01:19:58.260 whatever racial or not racial, sexual or what's the other polar polar? Thank you. Because of that, 0.54

01:20:07.000 he lost. He can't go to work for a month. He gets paid leave for a month. Right. Paid.

01:20:11.560 Um, did anything happen to Felicia, who clearly has violated the policy on collegiality that is 1.00

01:20:19.820 outlined here that you are not supposed to, um, attack colleagues online? You were not supposed

01:20:26.020 to attack. So she's has anything happened to Felicia yet? And has anything happened to Taylor

01:20:31.120 Lorenz for her sin that we kicked it off with? No, I mean, the inmates are running the asylum at this

01:20:36.900 point. Right. I mean, the backstory on Felicia is interesting because after the Kobe Bryant thing

01:20:41.600 where she inspired just a ton of about rage and people were talking about how insensitive it was

01:20:46.660 to send out allegations of rape during the, like seconds after we learned that Kobe and his daughter

01:20:51.660 died. Right. Yeah. I mean, it was, it was, it was terrible, which, and so she got suspended for that.

01:20:56.120 She ultimately, I mean, at that time did the same exact play to the people who suspended her. 1.00

01:21:02.480 Right. And she was doing it throughout. And then ultimately she sued the Washington post for 0.96

01:21:08.260 discrimination and it was thrown out of court. Right. So all of that backstory and she's still 0.98

01:21:13.660 working there. It tells me like, I don't think they're, I don't think they have the guts to do

01:21:19.300 anything about any of it. Like she's going to destroy their entire newsroom and I'm not sure they

01:21:23.160 have anything to say about it. Yeah. They're not even going down swinging. So, and apparently Sally

01:21:28.720 Busby was like in, in, if you could keep this confidential, you know, that would be the

01:21:33.020 appropriate. And it was like two seconds later, it was all over the internet. He's like, F you

01:21:37.580 journalists, right? They're literally incapable of keeping a secret. That's like their job

01:21:42.280 where this ends. Nobody knows, but, um, it will be interesting to see how long the post puts up with

01:21:49.720 Taylor Lorenz is nonsense. I mean, that's, that's really the test case. Um, I think you're probably

01:21:54.640 right. They've probably had it with trying to discipline, uh, Felicia because it doesn't end 0.98

01:21:59.840 well for them. Even a lawsuit that gets thrown out as a pain in the ass to deal with. And they

01:22:03.300 certainly don't want another one, but there is a disparity in how they enforce their policy

01:22:06.760 against Dave versus how they forced it against Felicia. And it's like, if you're fighting for

01:22:11.540 wokeness, even if you're wrong and you're violating policy, you'll be protected. If you're on the wrong

01:22:17.720 side of the woke, you'll go down in flames. Bye. That's a hundred percent. That's all right.

01:22:24.680 That's standby. Standby. Wait, what'd you say? What'd you say, Kelly?

01:22:30.440 Oh, it's unpaid. Okay. My producer Kelly McGuire said he's unpaid. He gets unpaid leave. Wow. So

01:22:34.800 he actually lost dough over this. Um, Felicia, not so much. She's losing no sleep. She's losing no

01:22:40.260 dough. She, she's just losing her tips of her fingernails as she burns. Um, ruthless is staying 1.00

01:22:46.480 with us. There's a lot more to go over. Don't miss our last segment with the guys.

01:22:53.640 Picking up my point earlier about, um, how the gals from Red Scare were saying that the Democrats

01:22:58.800 produce no interesting figures. You know, there's no, there's nobody interesting to watch. I mean,

01:23:02.940 all contraire. When you look at, um, I believe she goes by AOC, um, Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez. She is,

01:23:11.100 um, you may be aware. Let latinx. She's I didn't have to correct. Yeah. And, um, would really like 1.00

01:23:19.140 you all to call her that and would like you to call every Hispanic person latinx. Uh, and if you 0.81

01:23:25.100 don't, you can just go pound sand because here's her message. Despite the overwhelming poll showing

01:23:31.340 the latinx people hate this term, she will speak for them. Listen to her.

01:23:38.180 If putting a little X on your campaign literature is what you think is the difference between winning

01:23:44.500 or losing an election, you need to talk about healthcare more. You need to raise people's

01:23:48.400 wages. You need to talk about more issues that also matter to people. That being said,

01:23:53.780 why are people opting for trying to use latinx over latinx? Well, latinx can be convenient in

01:24:01.720 written form because you just put down an X and people can kind of mentally put in whatever vowel

01:24:06.120 they identify with. Um, but it's kind of hard to say. So latinx, you avoid the masculine O, 0.99

01:24:13.580 you avoid the feminine A, latinx is a little more neutral. So it could be more inclusive to people.

01:24:19.820 Shut up. What are we doing? That being said, if you don't want to use it,

01:24:25.440 no one's forcing you to, but for people who enjoy trying to figure out language and have it meet the

01:24:34.620 modern age, that's kind of where it's at. Fascinating. It's so fascinating. It's so

01:24:41.500 tortured, right? Because she's trying to have it both ways. And you notice this, notice this a lot,

01:24:45.980 Megan, with like the Bernie Sanders left. These are folks who are more about solidarity than

01:24:51.140 identity, right? Like they care less generally about the latinx stuff or the sort of social

01:24:58.280 issues. They care more about class issues, right? And so for people like AOC, it's really tough

01:25:03.180 because she doesn't want to be that person who's latinx all the time, but she has to be because 0.99

01:25:10.600 there's an enforcement mechanism in progressive politics now that if you're not on board with all

01:25:15.000 of it, you're the other, you know? And can I tell you that the beginning there where she sounds

01:25:20.240 somewhat reasonable and she's like, if you're worried about the X, you should have a better

01:25:24.700 healthcare program. She's not saying that for people who don't want to put it on or for people

01:25:31.120 who do want to put it on there. She's basically saying that the lead into this is about how

01:25:35.600 if you have a problem with this term, you don't like latinx, screw you. Like get a better healthcare

01:25:43.880 policy then. Like if you think your use of that term is undermining your campaign, you're wrong.

01:25:49.720 You need better policy. So she's really, she is pushing. She wants the term to be used.

01:25:53.840 She's kind of mocking politicians who are like, I'm not using that. Hispanic people hate it. And she's 0.78

01:25:59.060 basically like, use it and make them hate you less by having better healthcare. This is our term.

01:26:05.200 Well, she, the funniest part about this, right? Is she's reacting to Democrats who have viewed

01:26:11.220 polls that show Hispanics, 80% of some odd Latino voters hate it. Right. And they don't have their, 1.00

01:26:18.000 they wonder where the hell it came from. They say straight up, they do not want to be called

01:26:21.080 80% of Latinos. And so her colleagues have been like, we're not doing that. Same thing that they did 1.00

01:26:27.340 with like to fund the police. Right. They're like, no, no, no. Like we'll all get beat if we do stupid

01:26:31.280 stuff like that, because nobody wants to do it. And she campaign expert, AOC, who somehow is a

01:26:38.560 Democrat. Mine can get elected in an 80% democratic district is giving the advice to her colleagues in 1.00

01:26:44.840 swing districts that the hell with what they want. Call them latinx or latinx. I believe it's latinx. 1.00

01:26:51.780 Yeah. You can say it either way. For sure. He'll go with that. But she said, do that. Just do. You

01:26:58.180 have to come up with better other stuff because if they're deciding on that, uh, so be it. I mean,

01:27:02.880 nevermind if you're a Democrat in an Hispanic district, right? That might be enough alone. 0.99

01:27:07.600 Well, this is, it's interesting because they, there's, um, a representative Ruben Gallego,

01:27:11.940 Democrat out of Arizona who said he does not allow the people in his office to use this term

01:27:16.500 Latinx in any official communication. And he said, when Latino politicians use the term,

01:27:22.200 it is largely to appease white rich progressives who think that is the term we use. It's a vicious

01:27:28.600 circle of confirmation bias. So it's rich white progressives who want people to use that terms

01:27:34.820 and AOC who's, you know, as far as you can go left on the woke scale at the Democrats peril. Like,

01:27:40.780 good. I hope they listen to her. She should partner up with Felicia and get people policing all 1.00

01:27:45.600 the speech everywhere in every newsroom and every congressional office and see how that works

01:27:50.480 out. Yeah, she is. She is for me. What's what Felicia is to smug, right? I love AOC. She is my

01:27:59.100 favorite. I can't get enough of AOC. If she was on all day, every day, I'd be the happiest man in

01:28:03.880 show business. There is nobody. And I mean, nobody who can puzzle middle America more quickly than this

01:28:09.820 lady. So true. Yeah. And she's, she's interesting to watch. I'll give her that. Also interesting to 0.64

01:28:15.040 watch Maverick. Now, I haven't seen it yet. Yeah. This sort of sequel to Top Gun. But my little

01:28:22.460 eight year old did. He went to a birthday party on Monday. And so in preparation for that, we had

01:28:26.800 not yet shown him Top Gun. So the family watched it. And it really is an amazing movie. Top Gun is a

01:28:32.200 great film. It really is great. And Tom Cruise is like one of the original big movie stars from the

01:28:39.240 80s. You know, like he he's a star of a different caliber than all these guys, even than The Rock,

01:28:45.140 who's arguably, you know, better known today. But I mean, he's just in that collection of stars

01:28:50.360 who are just untouchable. They don't give interviews all the time. They don't Instagram.

01:28:54.940 They don't need daily stroking. They're just huge stars. Any picture they touch typically turns to

01:29:01.180 gold. And I appreciate that. I mean, he's very bizarre guy. Don't get me wrong. But I appreciate

01:29:06.240 that. Anyway, he makes this follow up. And as of Monday, I'm sure it's much bigger now. But it had

01:29:13.860 premiered 10 days earlier, and it had 548 million dollars in the bank already. It was his biggest

01:29:22.440 opening weekend ever in his own career, which is saying something. He refused to release it anywhere

01:29:29.380 but in the theaters. He wrote that was never going to happen ever. I make movies for the big screen.

01:29:33.860 Again, I kind of like that. I don't know. I get the problems with Tom Cruise. Don't get me wrong.

01:29:38.000 But I like that. It's just a little swagger. You know, the way we used to like our movie stars.

01:29:41.820 Yeah, the film refuses refused in the process to go woke. It's devoid of virtue signaling.

01:29:48.040 There are no trans fighter pilots. There are no drags drag performances at the Top Gun school. 1.00

01:29:54.480 There's no monologues about white privilege and on and on it goes. We were reading some of this from

01:29:59.500 Daily Wire and elsewhere. But it relies on quality storytelling and action scenes that are real and

01:30:04.680 not computer generated. And this is why The Federalist is calling this sequel unabashedly

01:30:09.340 patriotic, free of token left wing social and political propaganda. And I would submit to you

01:30:14.780 guys the reason why it's already earned half a billion dollars. What do you mean?

01:30:19.680 I mean, absolutely. First off, Top Gun, I say this unironically, is the greatest movie that's

01:30:25.600 ever been made in the history of cinema. I probably watched it 100 times, if not more. It is fantastic

01:30:32.060 in every way. So when I had to wait 36 years or something for the for the sequel, when this

01:30:36.980 thing came out, I came out, I watched it the moment I could. I saw it. It is incredible.

01:30:43.880 This is Tom Cruise is everything you want more. They give you everything that you loved about the first

01:30:49.680 one plus some because the action fighting with the planes and everything. It's just it's

01:30:55.620 unbelievable. But you know, to be honest with you, I'm going to go watch it again in the theater

01:31:00.320 because it is the highest and best use of my time. It is so good. I got to see it. I can't I cannot say

01:31:06.320 enough good things about this. Well, I got to see it, too. But I think, you know, well, Hollywood listen,

01:31:11.680 right, like with the implosion of Netflix and it's sort of corporate memo, like enough with you

01:31:17.100 woke stars, we're going to do films and movies that appeal to everybody in this country. If you

01:31:20.780 don't like it, you can walk. And, you know, the struggles that they're having now that nobody

01:31:24.520 watched any of their woke films and they were disasters. And now you see like Dave Chappelle's

01:31:29.520 special over there, you know, kicking butt, same with Ricky Gervais. These are not to mention what

01:31:34.200 happened with Yellowstone, the series like they listen now to what normal people want, which is not

01:31:40.800 to be lectured to by this disgusting group of people. Sure seems like they should. I mean,

01:31:46.960 I think there's evidence to suggest that there is some of that happening. Right. I mean, Netflix

01:31:50.800 canceled a whole bunch of things, including Barack Obama, if I'm not mistaken, and Michelle Obama and

01:31:56.340 Meghan Markle. Right, right. And it looks to me like they're repackaging a few things. But I mean,

01:32:01.460 you did a good job of running down all the successes that all these different films and shows have had

01:32:07.160 lately. It's incredibly clear what the consumer marketplace wants here. It's just a matter of

01:32:13.260 whether or not Hollywood will follow. Like for anybody who's watched the Oscars or even a piece

01:32:17.960 of the Oscars over the last 10 years, what they're celebrating is I don't have any idea what they're

01:32:23.400 talking about. Yeah. Right. Like it's basically if it's in English at all, I don't understand what

01:32:27.540 the plot line is. You know what I mean? It's like esoteric wokeness. And now you hit something like this

01:32:33.200 with Maverick. Ah, what a breath of fresh air. I think it's it's also been like a long time coming.

01:32:40.220 You know, it's a great analysis about Netflix is canceling. Yeah. All this like they felt that

01:32:45.320 they had to cater to a woke audience because they thought, OK, the country is shifting that way.

01:32:50.380 You know, culturally, every star is pushing this garbage down our throat. That must be where folks

01:32:54.680 are. But they didn't get the audience that, you know, they were promised that if you toe the line

01:32:59.580 with with what the left demands, the audience wasn't there. The audience doesn't want that.

01:33:03.900 They want to actually enjoy their time where like you'd see stand up comedy when when it's like a

01:33:09.640 left wing comic versus a normal comic. The left wing thinks comedy is like, OK, you say left wing

01:33:17.280 talking point and audience clap. Yeah. Like all the late night shows. Everyone claps like a seal.

01:33:21.420 And it's really just a lecture. It's not a lecture. Right. Like people want to be entertained.

01:33:25.820 Right. To the movies. Do you want to be entertained? You see a comedy special. You want to laugh

01:33:28.980 because there's jokes. Well, and people are sick of it. And the other thing you mentioned,

01:33:33.440 Netflix in particular, there's some of these entertainment companies are starting to push

01:33:37.680 back on their employees and changing the employee culture, which is I would love to see that at the

01:33:42.500 Washington Post. It can go ahead and burn. But wouldn't that be nice if maybe they stopped

01:33:46.400 listening to these children and and, you know, put the business interests of the Washington Post

01:33:50.480 first. But Netflix is doing that. They had this memo to their employees being like, look,

01:33:55.280 there's going to be some content that you object to on our platform is be content that you like

01:33:58.620 on our platform. If you can't serve our our community, then don't work here.

01:34:03.540 You know, it's like it's tied to economics where we're entering a phase, especially because of Joe

01:34:08.240 Biden, where a lot of folks are nervous about we're headed into a recession. A lot of companies

01:34:12.840 are making cuts already. Netflix's stock is down like 75 percent so far this year. They're going to

01:34:18.380 have to make decisions based on what's economically sound, not what right. The Hollywood liberal

01:34:23.040 woke mob wants them to do. Well, you come to understand real quickly when when when times

01:34:27.580 are tough and dollars are short is that wokeness is a privilege in and of itself. That's the irony

01:34:32.800 of it. Yeah, that's right. Well, it's kind of a continuation of the discussion we've been having

01:34:36.680 all show of like what happened at The Washington Post and what's happening with CNN and MSNBC and where

01:34:43.640 this kind of crazy ideological commitment gets a company. And yet it's still expanding. You know,

01:34:50.640 these these corporations that are woke now, they're weighing in on abortion. That's happening

01:34:55.120 a little bit more and like conditioning their dollars like Blackstone and so on. And whether

01:35:00.240 you have the appropriate DEI program, they better pay attention. They really better pay attention

01:35:05.100 because I realize what they think the future is. I think it's something very different. And,

01:35:09.240 you know, frankly, we're banking on it, that the reasonable middle will make these companies

01:35:15.060 pay for trying to act holier than thou as they turn their noses up at normal people in America

01:35:20.280 who just want clean air. Yes, they do. And a safe environment in which to raise their children 0.97

01:35:25.000 and they don't want to go on the subway and have to worry about needles being everywhere or somebody

01:35:29.580 grabbing them, as we've seen. And they don't want to watch the January 6th freaking theater with the

01:35:35.500 Werthers. That was the greatest reference ever. Cashews, Matlock, Werthers. Who hasn't been there

01:35:43.180 with an elder friend or a person in their life?

01:35:47.480 Or they can choose not to and leave it to Megyn Kelly and the Ruthless Variety program.

01:35:51.520 That's right. We're on it. You guys are the best. It's so always so, so fun. Duncan Holmes,

01:35:56.140 Smug, thank you so much for being here.

01:35:58.200 Of course.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - June 08, 2022

Progressives Fail, and January 6 Theater, with Comfortably Smug, Josh Holmes, and Michael Duncan ｜ Ep. 338

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