The Megyn Kelly Show - Rapinoe's Final Middle Finger, Radical Trans Ideology, and Failures of Progressive Policies, with Carrie Prejean and Jason Rantz

00:00:00.400 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.880 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.360 U.S. women's soccer star, as Ben now, Megan Rapinoe ends her long career by giving one final F.U. to the United States of America and its national anthem.

00:00:26.900 And one of the most popular children's cartoons, I guarantee you've let your kids watch this in the country, introduces its first non-binary character.

00:00:35.160 Because it's never too early to indoctrinate the children with the rabid gender ideology, the cult.

00:00:43.720 Get them in the cult nice and early, just keep reinforcing it over and over.

00:00:47.280 That way, by the time they get to school in any state other than Florida, it'll be super easy to switch them over as a supporter or perhaps as a joiner.

00:00:55.440 Concerned parents, we're not supposed to notice the hidden reference in the show, but we did, and we'll talk about it.

00:01:03.400 Joining me now to discuss these stories and many others, Carrie Prejean Bowler.

00:01:08.080 Miss California 2009, and one of the most outspoken mothers I know, leading the charge against the messaging, being shoved in front of our children today.

00:01:17.500 Carrie, so good to see you.

00:01:18.980 So there's a lot going on just in California.

00:01:22.580 So on many levels, you're the perfect guest for today.

00:01:25.260 I have to kick it off with this.

00:01:27.180 Okay, now I live in Connecticut.

00:01:30.040 And one of the blessings of moving from New York City to Connecticut is, while Connecticut is a blue state, it is not disgusting.

00:01:37.540 It is not immoral.

00:01:40.140 It is not full of debauchery around every corner, like San Francisco, California.

00:01:46.180 I realize you don't live in San Fran.

00:01:47.600 Thank God.

00:01:48.660 But in San Francisco, California right now, as the New York Times, by the way, does this long piece today trying to rehabilitate San Fran is like, you know, people are being too hard on it.

00:01:58.500 You know, it's really come back.

00:01:59.780 It's doing just fine.

00:02:00.880 We get the Folsom Street Fair.

00:02:05.020 And your favorite, your favorite lawmaker, can I tell the audience, Carrie has been on to State Senator Scott Wiener for years, for years.

00:02:17.280 And when I first met Carrie, I got to re-know you because we met years ago.

00:02:21.440 I was like, why is she so fired up about this guy?

00:02:23.520 What's he doing?

00:02:24.080 I don't know.

00:02:24.500 He's a normal lib.

00:02:25.640 No, he's not.

00:02:26.700 He's not normal.

00:02:27.500 And he is tweeting about this Folsom Street Fair just over the past couple of days, saying today is the Folsom Street Fair, one of the best days of the year in San Francisco.

00:02:40.640 He attended the Folsom Leather Brunch.

00:02:44.500 He's so grateful to all the kick-ass community leaders who make our city a better place.

00:02:50.600 Well, Carrie, you take like two minutes to look into the Folsom Street Fair.

00:02:56.260 That Scott Wiener, your favorite, is celebrating.

00:02:59.580 And forgive me to the audience at home because I'm going to have to get graphic here.

00:03:04.460 It didn't take us long to find this picture of grown men peeing and, we believe, defecating on other people in a public kiddie pool that is on display.

00:03:16.780 Another image shows men's penises, people having sex, appears to be both anal and oral.

00:03:22.500 Here's somebody who has the words scat pig on his back.

00:03:28.480 Scat, of course, is, you know, a term for crap, bear crap.

00:03:33.020 And pig in the Urban Dictionary, we are told anything referencing pig play means raunchy gay sex.

00:03:40.480 If one refers to them as a pig, they usually have few limits in terms of sex.

00:03:44.640 So this person's had that written on his back in what appears to be human excrement parading around.

00:03:51.840 One person was dressed as a priest with a paddle.

00:03:55.520 Another woman with her breasts removed, showing off her top surgery scars.

00:04:00.240 And then, as I said, people openly having sex, we didn't make graphics of it because it was too X-rated.

00:04:06.660 This is happening right this week, currently, on the streets of San Francisco.

00:04:12.620 And your state senator, who's trying to trans half the kids in your state, maybe all of them,

00:04:17.500 is celebrating it openly and unabashedly.

00:04:20.720 Scott Wiener, who we can thank for half of the radical legislation that's either on the docket or being pushed through right now in California.

00:04:27.040 What do you make of it all?

00:04:27.740 Oh, my blood is boiling, Megan.

00:04:32.180 I have been speaking out against Senator Wiener for a very long time now.

00:04:37.580 I actually had the privilege of running into him at my local country club here, and that was fun.

00:04:43.700 We have that.

00:04:44.680 I'm sorry to interrupt you just as soon as you get going.

00:04:46.820 But we pulled that because we know you were onto this guy a long time ago.

00:04:50.160 But let me show it to the audience so they know what you're about to discuss.

00:04:53.160 Are you a senator's challenger?

00:04:57.540 Are you or not?

00:04:59.340 No, are you for quite?

00:05:01.040 You are?

00:05:02.340 Okay.

00:05:03.000 You are a force to be reckoned with in California.

00:05:07.280 You have had such an impact on the state.

00:05:10.600 Like, we're doing an investigation right now on the origins with the Kinsey Institute.

00:05:21.980 Like, what have you still been from?

00:05:24.720 The Kinsey Institute in Indiana?

00:05:26.780 You're not familiar with it?

00:05:29.940 Like, the whole trans movement and all that, based on pedophilia and child abuse?

00:05:35.760 Are you not familiar with it?

00:05:37.720 Oh, I don't know.

00:05:38.380 You need to understand what you're supporting.

00:05:40.260 The reason why so many of your bills that you propose are based out of the theories that

00:05:48.480 were popularized by Alfred Kuhlman, do you have a statement?

00:05:54.680 Or do you just ignore constituents?

00:05:58.440 That was you and Britt getting right up in this guy's grill.

00:06:02.400 And I know it's controversial to confront our public servants.

00:06:08.200 I use that term generously with him.

00:06:10.260 In private spaces.

00:06:11.960 But this guy is actively, I think, trying to cause the abuse of young children.

00:06:18.680 He deserves it.

00:06:19.960 I'm sorry, but this guy might be singularly evil in the way he is approaching our children.

00:06:25.640 Go ahead.

00:06:27.140 Yeah, he is solely responsible for most of the bills that are being passed here in California.

00:06:32.360 And this guy doesn't even have children, obviously.

00:06:35.480 He is a pervert, first of all.

00:06:38.380 And I think that they need to be looking into his hard drives on his computers at his home.

00:06:43.180 Because this guy is, I mean, you showed the pictures.

00:06:46.200 This guy is sick.

00:06:47.560 This guy is perverted.

00:06:48.840 And this guy has no place making bills that are affecting families and children across this state

00:06:55.760 of California.

00:06:56.760 He is disgusting.

00:06:58.200 And I'm so glad that people are becoming more aware of what he's doing and who he really is.

00:07:04.460 He is disgusting, filth, and he's a groomer.

00:07:08.380 The reaction online has been pretty swift, saying, my God, the fact that a sitting state

00:07:14.820 senator would admit he attended this and celebrate, you know, being at this event where the people

00:07:20.960 are defecating on each other, openly having anal sex.

00:07:23.620 Are you kidding me?

00:07:24.440 But how it's like we last week, we were critical of Senator John Fetterman for the outfit he wore

00:07:33.780 to the U.S. Senate for them and for them relaxing the dress code at the U.S. Senate.

00:07:38.640 I realize this is a state, but it's still a legislative body that is responsible for the

00:07:44.040 laws that come out for one of the largest states in the union.

00:07:46.320 Is it the largest second?

00:07:48.040 Maybe second.

00:07:48.580 Okay.

00:07:49.280 So this guy who actively every day seems to sit down and say, what can I do to deprive

00:07:55.960 any parent of the right to take care of his or her own child?

00:07:59.760 I want control over Carrie Prejean Bowler's children, over all the Californians' children.

00:08:06.120 That guy showing up at the event where they're smearing shit all over one another,

00:08:11.260 peeing on one another in front of everyone, and you guys are supposed to trust him.

00:08:17.980 Yeah.

00:08:18.740 No, we don't trust him, and that's why when Britt and I went up to him at that restaurant,

00:08:24.180 I mean, what an arrogant pig he is.

00:08:26.600 And then he had the audacity, Megan, to go up to the hostess and say, these women are harassing

00:08:31.640 me.

00:08:32.280 He is a coward.

00:08:33.440 He wouldn't answer any of our questions.

00:08:35.600 He knows that he is absolute filth and that he's despised by most people in this state,

00:08:40.640 including Democrats.

00:08:42.260 I don't know anybody that approves of any bills that he is sponsoring, and he is pushing

00:08:47.460 this cult on our children.

00:08:50.000 And I'm so thankful that people are onto him.

00:08:53.560 And we need to vote his ass out of office.

00:08:56.080 I'm sorry.

00:08:56.520 He is too radical, even for Gavin Newsom.

00:09:01.500 Yeah.

00:09:01.700 He is the man behind the legislation, which by, it's not a miracle, it's presidential politics.

00:09:08.280 But I was going to say by some miracle, but I think because of presidential politics, Gavin

00:09:13.120 Newsom declined to sign.

00:09:16.400 And whatever you think of Gavin Newsom, and I think we both know he's very aligned with

00:09:20.040 the radical gender ideology.

00:09:21.880 Thank God he did not sign it.

00:09:23.720 Thank God he didn't sign it.

00:09:25.640 But Britt, this guy Wiener, he loved this legislation.

00:09:29.720 And he's still openly expressing his lament that Gavin Newsom didn't sign it.

00:09:34.180 And it could still go through because the Democrats have supermajorities in the House and the State

00:09:39.040 Senate out there, and they could still override the veto.

00:09:42.520 And you know what I'm talking about, how they will, they wanted to make it very easy for courts

00:09:48.960 to say, if you don't affirm your child's gender confusion, you could lose custody.

00:09:55.040 Yeah, think about that.

00:09:55.880 It's literally a kidnapping bill that pervert Senator Scott Wiener is basically saying, you

00:10:03.620 parents have no rights.

00:10:05.960 That if your child goes to school and says, you know, oh, my parents aren't affirming me

00:10:11.940 and I want to, you know, move out and I'm 12 years old.

00:10:15.140 Guess what Scott Wiener is proposing?

00:10:17.020 That the school take those kids and put them in a facility and the parents have absolutely

00:10:22.560 no rights.

00:10:23.440 This is ludicrous.

00:10:24.540 This is insanity.

00:10:26.560 This is absolutely insane.

00:10:29.860 And parents better wake up.

00:10:31.900 I should note for the record, we have no evidence of anything on his computer at home.

00:10:38.540 She's I think you're saying he's perverted because of the legislation he is pushing through

00:10:42.360 that would deprive parents of their rights and allow the state to decide whether a child's

00:10:48.180 momentary gender confusion means he no longer has access to his mother.

00:10:54.540 Yeah, I want to know why Scott Wiener is obsessed with our children.

00:10:59.820 That's what I mean by let's look at his hard drive.

00:11:02.400 OK, why is he obsessed with pushing this cult ideology on our kids?

00:11:08.100 You look at the disgusting filth on his Instagram, the things that he posts.

00:11:12.120 It is it is so beyond insane, Megan, that that he he needs to be investigated.

00:11:19.980 I'm sorry, because he is obsessed with our kids.

00:11:22.980 He's obsessed with pushing parents out of the conversation.

00:11:25.740 And he wants us parents to have absolutely no rights.

00:11:29.820 There is a there is a woman who goes by ask a trans widow.

00:11:35.100 I think I know what that means.

00:11:37.020 She goes.

00:11:37.740 Her name is Tracy, who posted the reaction to his tweet saying that this is one of the

00:11:42.620 best days of the year in San Francisco.

00:11:44.460 This this fair.

00:11:45.440 And she she states as follows.

00:11:47.620 Folsom Fair is known for exhibiting the most disgusting and depraved acts publicly.

00:11:52.000 The fact that a state senator thinks it's perfectly acceptable to announce he was at a leather

00:11:56.560 brunch highlights a problem with a greater culture.

00:11:59.800 We keep being told we're bigots while the bar keeps moving from tolerance all the way to

00:12:05.360 men acting out their homosexual kinks in public.

00:12:08.360 It's gross.

00:12:09.680 And all of California should be ashamed because San Francisco has no shame of its own any more.

00:12:17.600 Now, he has not responded to any of this.

00:12:20.880 But here's another person's post.

00:12:23.200 Public sex, piss, shit and abuse.

00:12:26.460 This is degradation.

00:12:27.880 Nothing to celebrate.

00:12:28.880 The demoralization of our culture is a cancer on our ability to form nourishing relationships

00:12:34.580 and community.

00:12:36.380 That's exactly it.

00:12:37.640 It's just.

00:12:38.920 You know, not so long ago and I realized San Francisco, but I mean, it's not that different

00:12:44.080 from Chelsea, New York, you know, in New York City, the Chelsea neighborhoods, very, very

00:12:48.000 gay neighborhood.

00:12:49.180 I lived there for a couple of years when I first got to New York.

00:12:53.060 The Halloween parade was a lot, but nothing like this, nothing like this.

00:12:58.820 We're like, you know, bodily functions on one another, like open, you know, masturbation

00:13:04.300 and sex and like I've I never witnessed anything.

00:13:08.060 Forgive me, but it was like the fun gays, you know, like they they were celebratory and

00:13:12.780 it was like about embracing whatever a sexuality that had been demonized.

00:13:17.680 It wasn't about forcing deviancy on the public streets in a way that they required you celebrate.

00:13:25.060 And this first woman has a good point about how now it's really getting to the point where

00:13:29.420 if you have a problem with this, it's your bigotry.

00:13:32.960 It's your intolerance.

00:13:34.660 Yeah, and I want to know what is the plus on the LGBTQIA plus is it now anything goes where

00:13:45.040 do we draw the line Megan now what's next men able to just go around naked in the streets

00:13:52.380 in front of small children let them express themselves right that was the whole thing in

00:13:56.620 2009 whatever you want to do in the privacy of your bedroom.

00:13:59.940 Well, guess what, Megan, the bedroom is now in the classroom is now in the boardroom is

00:14:05.100 now passing laws that affect my children.

00:14:08.680 It's not OK.

00:14:10.080 You give them an inch.

00:14:11.320 They take a freaking mile.

00:14:13.320 When is it going to end and where do you draw the line?

00:14:17.240 The appearance of deviance everywhere is hard to miss.

00:14:23.760 I mean, we've seen this sort of debauchery, you know, in corner after corner, mostly in the

00:14:27.220 very, very blue cities in the very, very blue states.

00:14:30.200 But I would argue that what we're seeing, for example, in the women's prisons is also

00:14:34.620 deviancy.

00:14:36.020 I mean, there is a case that I've been dying to talk to you about.

00:14:38.320 It's out of Wisconsin.

00:14:39.520 All right.

00:14:40.240 And we've we've talked before about how they're putting men in women's prisons now.

00:14:43.880 And all you need to do is say that you're you're actually a woman.

00:14:46.480 You're actually not a man.

00:14:48.080 And several states in the union will say, OK, off you go.

00:14:50.900 You're in the women's prison, including your state, California.

00:14:53.560 And but people need to keep this in mind as they watch Gavin Newsom debate Ron DeSantis

00:14:58.000 with Sean Hannity.

00:15:00.680 Keep that in mind.

00:15:01.820 You could not find two governors who are more diametrically opposed on this issue.

00:15:05.940 But Gavin Newsom's just fine with putting men in with the women in the prisons.

00:15:09.420 So let's go to Wisconsin where they are now.

00:15:12.220 This is according to the Daily Signals reporting housing a man whose name is Mark Campbell, who

00:15:17.960 raped his own 10 year old daughter repeatedly in front of that little girl's little brother.

00:15:25.020 This is him, Mark, trying to look like a woman unconvincingly.

00:15:30.780 He is in the Teichita Correctional Institution in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin.

00:15:36.680 He is now a registered sex offender, convicted of first degree sexual assault of a child.

00:15:41.280 He is 52 years old.

00:15:44.440 He's five foot nine.

00:15:45.380 He's 225 pounds.

00:15:47.380 And now he says he's female.

00:15:49.860 A couple of years ago, as of 2013, he said, I'm I'm transgender and I want surgery.

00:15:56.180 He wanted the taxpayers to pay for it.

00:15:58.120 The Department of Corrections said no.

00:16:00.000 He filed a lawsuit in 2016 for not allowing his sex change operation on the taxpayer dime.

00:16:05.980 In December 2020, this federal judge, James D. Peterson, a Barack Obama appointee, issued

00:16:14.740 an opinion saying that Wisconsin must offer him taxpayer funded surgery to change, I guess,

00:16:23.040 his penis into a vagina, some fake vagina hole and and move him into the women's prison

00:16:30.700 even before the surgery took place.

00:16:33.160 So immediately into the women's prison.

00:16:35.300 So now you've got this convicted rapist of little girls housed with the women in the

00:16:42.960 Wisconsin Department of Corrections inside the prison I just mentioned.

00:16:46.480 And we're supposed to say, let's be tolerant.

00:16:51.080 Let's understand how difficult it must be for somebody like Mark to be in the male prison.

00:16:59.220 And let me just add one of the other thing of this, Britt.

00:17:01.300 But I'm trying to get the OK, here's here's what the guy said.

00:17:06.160 The judge stand by.

00:17:08.140 I did it as a screen grab.

00:17:10.500 I was so fired up when I started reading about it.

00:17:12.380 I'm like, oh, my God.

00:17:13.180 OK.

00:17:16.480 All right.

00:17:17.000 He says.

00:17:17.800 He's obviously not talking about the female inmates, but the true public interest lies

00:17:33.880 in alleviating needless suffering by those who are dependent on the government for their

00:17:38.560 care.

00:17:39.700 I declined to impose any further prerequisites on Campbell's sex reassignment surgery.

00:17:45.740 Peterson added using female pronouns for the inmate.

00:17:49.040 She has waited long enough.

00:17:52.220 So this judge, Barack Obama's we have him to thank his judge, is very, very concerned about

00:17:59.340 the health and well-being of the inmates, Carrie.

00:18:04.880 Yeah, it's it's a very sad day, Megan, in America right now, because we have lost all

00:18:12.020 not only common sense, but just human decency.

00:18:16.020 I mean, think about what you just said.

00:18:17.620 We are allowing a child rapist to now claim.

00:18:21.660 He's a woman because we've lost, you know, oh, well, a man can just miraculously become

00:18:28.920 a woman.

00:18:29.380 No, absolutely not.

00:18:31.560 It's not a she.

00:18:32.840 He's a he.

00:18:33.840 And we need to stop playing the pronoun patty cake game, because once you do that, you lose

00:18:37.960 immediately and think about it.

00:18:40.560 So now we're allowing him in the women's prison because he claims he's a woman.

00:18:45.200 What do you think is going to happen?

00:18:48.820 It is.

00:18:49.640 And it is.

00:18:51.220 Where do these women go?

00:18:52.540 Right.

00:18:53.400 What happens when these women wind up in front of James Judge Judge Patterson?

00:18:58.540 Does he have the same empathy for them?

00:19:00.680 Does he do anything to protect them from this convicted rapist?

00:19:05.440 And by the way, the same Daily Signal report points out that more than half of the trans

00:19:10.660 identifying prisoners in the Wisconsin criminal system are convicted sex offenders.

00:19:16.420 These guys rape women.

00:19:18.540 And in this case, little girls.

00:19:21.060 And then as soon as they get sentenced to prison, they have an epiphany that, you know what?

00:19:26.620 I am a woman.

00:19:27.680 And they roll out the red carpet for them.

00:19:31.220 And then this judge wants us to look at him and say he's the empathetic one.

00:19:37.180 And we're the terrible, mean-spirited, dark hearts.

00:19:41.100 Yeah, think about it.

00:19:44.020 It's a pretty good gig for him.

00:19:46.220 Think of all the men who are the rapists and the murderers.

00:19:48.780 And, oh, all they have to say is, oh, I feel like a woman today.

00:19:51.520 And now I can go bunker up with the ladies.

00:19:54.520 I mean, what the hell is going on in America right now?

00:20:00.000 And shame on that judge.

00:20:01.380 And you know what?

00:20:02.140 Shame on the feminists.

00:20:03.280 Because where are all the Me Too women, Megan?

00:20:05.560 Where are all the feminists that have created this mess?

00:20:08.640 They made us so equal that now there are no longer differences between men and women.

00:20:12.120 I blame the feminists for this.

00:20:13.860 And where are the Me Too women who, oh, believe all women and I'm a victim.

00:20:18.500 Where are they?

00:20:19.980 Completely silent.

00:20:21.800 Shame on them.

00:20:22.780 Shame on that judge.

00:20:23.580 They, the problem begins with their acceptance of the premise that trans women are women.

00:20:32.640 They say that's true.

00:20:34.500 And that's ballgame.

00:20:36.100 Once you accept, and they're not wrong.

00:20:38.880 Once you accept that lie, it is ballgame.

00:20:42.760 You're right, Megan.

00:20:43.020 That's why we have to stand up to that lie.

00:20:45.200 You're exactly right.

00:20:46.300 You're exactly right, which is why we cannot call these men who are masquerading as women,

00:20:51.640 women.

00:20:51.900 I saw the other day, Fox News posted a thing about the Panthers cheerleader, the dude that

00:20:57.060 is wearing woman face and is a cheerleader.

00:20:59.960 And Fox News posted it and said, she is this and she is that.

00:21:03.620 And I said, stop calling him a she.

00:21:07.020 Stop it, Fox.

00:21:08.640 Why are you surrendering language?

00:21:11.720 We need to take back our language and stand up for the truth.

00:21:15.120 Men cannot be women.

00:21:17.000 Women cannot be men.

00:21:18.540 It's basic science.

00:21:20.020 And we need to stop pandering to the left ideology cult that is that is pushing this

00:21:25.980 garbage, not only on our kids, but on our society.

00:21:28.860 And it's affecting women everywhere.

00:21:30.480 And we're going to get into some of those examples as we go forward.

00:21:35.060 But let me ask you, because I know that you're a big fan of President Trump.

00:21:39.780 And of course, we've been very supportive of many of the things that Trump has done, too.

00:21:43.520 But he stumbled, I think, a little in his interview with me on this answer.

00:21:48.160 And it's led to some blowback, in particular, from DeSantis and his supporters, because you

00:21:52.940 and I both know DeSantis has been very clear.

00:21:54.700 A man cannot become a woman.

00:21:56.220 That's not a thing.

00:21:57.960 And is, you know, I think exactly as we'd want our next president to be when it comes

00:22:02.060 to this issue.

00:22:02.960 Doesn't mean he's a better candidate than Trump overall.

00:22:05.540 But on this issue, he's very solid.

00:22:08.260 Trump, I was surprised that he didn't come right.

00:22:10.160 Like, I was a little surprised he didn't come right out and say.

00:22:12.160 He did say what we wanted him to say on I'm against now men coming into women's spaces,

00:22:18.260 prisons.

00:22:18.840 I asked him prisons, you know, bathrooms, locker rooms.

00:22:22.140 And he said no.

00:22:23.060 And he pointed out how he was aggressive in keeping them out of the military, you know,

00:22:26.980 that where they wanted trans people openly serving.

00:22:29.980 Anyway, then I asked him this infamous question.

00:22:33.540 I'm going to play my question to him.

00:22:35.260 And then I'm going to play you Riley Gaines's reaction, because I've been dying to ask you

00:22:38.780 about this.

00:22:40.540 Can a man become a woman?

00:22:43.160 Um, in my opinion, you have a man, you have a woman.

00:22:49.600 I think part of it is birth.

00:22:53.260 Can the man give birth?

00:22:54.660 No, no.

00:22:55.980 Although they'll come up with some answer to that also.

00:22:58.220 Someday I heard just the other day, they have a way that now the man can give birth.

00:23:02.860 No, I would say I'll continue my stance on that.

00:23:07.280 Mm hmm.

00:23:09.140 OK, so now DeSantis already has an ad out comparing his answer to Glenn Beck on that exact question

00:23:14.020 after I had my interview with Trump and his and Trump's answer to me.

00:23:17.460 And then here's Riley Gaines, of course, an activist now trying to fight back against

00:23:21.040 the same stuff you and I are fighting on.

00:23:22.600 Um, who's, by the way, just getting like so effective.

00:23:25.920 And she's been very good.

00:23:27.540 My God, I really she's young.

00:23:29.360 You know, she kind of like she's the right age to speak to this generation that's being

00:23:33.020 so indoctrinated.

00:23:34.240 Anyway, here she is reacting.

00:23:35.600 Did you see this Megyn Kelly interview with Donald Trump talking about whether a man can

00:23:41.440 become a woman?

00:23:42.200 What are your thoughts?

00:23:43.620 I was shocked.

00:23:44.960 I never would have imagined that President Trump would have struggled to answer this.

00:23:49.880 And it was very clear he was struggling.

00:23:52.060 He hesitated.

00:23:53.320 You know, it's, um, well, he says, you know, I think it's it's not an I think this is not

00:23:59.660 an opinion.

00:24:00.820 It's a fact that no, a male can never become a female.

00:24:04.960 A man can never become a woman.

00:24:06.680 A boy can never become a girl.

00:24:08.040 A father can never become a mother.

00:24:10.060 Um, it's an easy, emphatic.

00:24:13.060 No.

00:24:15.300 What do you make of it, Carrie?

00:24:17.300 Yeah, you know, I watched that interview, Megan, and I was actually shocked.

00:24:21.260 I feel like he was surprised that you actually asked that question.

00:24:24.200 I was thankful you asked it because I think it's important.

00:24:26.780 Um, but if you really listen to what he said at first, he kind of was was taken aback and

00:24:32.460 he said, you know, there's men and there's women.

00:24:34.680 And I think that was his way of saying no.

00:24:36.660 And then he, he comes out later and says, no, I'm going to stick to, you know, basically

00:24:42.980 saying no without saying it.

00:24:44.980 Do I wish he would have come out swinging saying no, a man cannot be a woman.

00:24:48.460 But I think he, he was so like shocked by that question.

00:24:53.080 And it's, it's such a, uh, a ridiculous and like absurd question.

00:24:57.200 Like, obviously it's so insane that we even have to be criticizing someone for, for not

00:25:03.000 answering it in that way.

00:25:04.040 Cause it's so obvious.

00:25:04.940 Now I look at what Trump does.

00:25:06.960 So he said, his number one thing is to stop this gender ideology cult being pushed on our

00:25:11.960 kids.

00:25:12.260 He's going to end the child gender mutilation.

00:25:15.100 I look at the things that he's doing.

00:25:17.340 And so, you know, I gave him a pass on that.

00:25:19.920 Do I wish he would have said, yeah, a man cannot be a woman.

00:25:23.260 Yes.

00:25:23.900 But I look at the good things that he's done and, um, he has a pretty good track record

00:25:28.380 and the numbers.

00:25:29.460 Can I tell you something?

00:25:30.760 Um, Trump used that term mutilation.

00:25:33.460 And I understand that term because how can you consent under the age of 18 to having body

00:25:38.700 parts chopped off for, you know, these purposes, like what would appear to be, you know,

00:25:43.340 in some cases, political or ideological cult, like ideations by parents who are pushing

00:25:49.140 this stuff that you cannot tell me that all of these children who are having top surgery

00:25:53.100 or God forbid, bottom surgery are completely, uh, informed consent.

00:25:58.580 Nevermind the ones who are doing puberty blockers into cross sex hormones.

00:26:01.900 They have no idea that they're mutilating their chances of ever having a child that they're,

00:26:07.080 they're, they're changing their insides in a way that will make them infertile.

00:26:10.360 That's from the top trans advocates in this surgery and, and medicinal field.

00:26:15.880 That's what they say.

00:26:17.440 Um, so Trump used that term in our interview.

00:26:21.260 This is the former president of the United States, the leading candidate to become the

00:26:24.100 Republican candidate of the United States.

00:26:25.560 And guess what?

00:26:26.640 YouTube demonetized it because of that term.

00:26:30.700 We're to your point about controlling the language.

00:26:34.320 Kerry, we're not allowed to use the M word says YouTube and, and, and remain monetized.

00:26:41.980 You can stay on YouTube, but you can't, but like that, we've never been demonetized before

00:26:46.140 ever.

00:26:46.600 Now our channel has never been demonetized for any single video we've ever done.

00:26:49.880 Now the past president, the guy who's according to the ABC news poll yesterday, the most likely

00:26:55.540 to be the next president uses that word and YouTube tries to censor it.

00:27:00.780 YouTube tries to say, Nope, it's a punishment.

00:27:03.160 I don't look, I'm, I got enough money.

00:27:05.260 I can, I can withstand YouTube's censorship of my presidential interview.

00:27:11.000 However, it's bullshit.

00:27:13.880 Yeah.

00:27:15.280 Yeah.

00:27:15.720 This is the power Megan that they have.

00:27:17.820 This is when we say the cult, it is, it is so powerful what they can do.

00:27:23.900 I mean, think about that.

00:27:24.840 This is the, the former president and the leading Republican candidate for president for 2024.

00:27:30.840 And, and he's not allowed to say exactly what it is.

00:27:34.840 That's exactly what it is, but they want to control the language.

00:27:38.580 They want to censor you because they don't want you saying those words, Megan.

00:27:42.420 They want you scared to say those words, the M word.

00:27:46.260 And they're going to threaten you.

00:27:48.000 Hey, we're going to, we're going to cancel you.

00:27:50.100 We're going to make it so that you can't monetize off of the things that are being said on your,

00:27:54.200 on your show.

00:27:55.660 Whatever happened to free speech?

00:27:57.820 We saw that study that came out belatedly.

00:28:01.060 I think it was it out of Amsterdam with the 16 year old boy who wanted to become a girl who

00:28:08.560 went through a surgery where they were trying to create a vagina out of his penis.

00:28:14.800 And I think this boy had been put on the puberty blockers into the cross sex hormone.

00:28:19.740 So his penis never developed.

00:28:21.600 And so there wasn't enough skin.

00:28:23.280 And so they took skin from and tissue from his intestines.

00:28:27.300 Forgive me, audience.

00:28:27.880 I know this is graphic, but there's a reason for the, for the graphic discussion.

00:28:30.860 I mean, what, what good does it do us to sweep this under the rug and pretend this isn't

00:28:35.600 happening to children?

00:28:37.040 They, they took, and this is not as isolated case.

00:28:39.560 This is what they do.

00:28:40.340 They take tissue from one's other organs.

00:28:44.280 I think it was, um, lower intestines in this case.

00:28:47.460 And he died, he died.

00:28:50.320 And, and this is not the death.

00:28:52.500 I haven't heard about another death happening on the table like this, but this procedure

00:28:55.620 is of course full of risks.

00:28:58.060 If you watch jazz Jennings, all jazz talks about is the negative consequences of trying

00:29:02.900 to have surgery from male to female and the expander that, I mean, I don't understand why

00:29:09.160 mutilation is not an okay term.

00:29:11.540 I really don't, what, what do you call it when a parent consents to a minor having the

00:29:18.020 kind of procedures that, that do that to their intestines, that risk their lives, that

00:29:24.320 risk their wellbeing for the rest of their lives.

00:29:26.460 And that same parent, you know, who's looking at a child who can't legally get a tattoo, who

00:29:31.400 can't legally have a cocktail, who can't even in some of these instances, like Chloe

00:29:35.320 Cole, even legally drive Carrie.

00:29:38.640 I just, it's so dark and the answer is not to shut down conversation around it.

00:29:44.300 No, absolutely not.

00:29:45.520 But think about it.

00:29:46.120 They don't want the words mutilation being thrown around because that's what it is.

00:29:49.580 They, they don't want people to actually believe that it's mutilating their body, but what else

00:29:55.580 is it?

00:29:56.200 If it's not mutilation, what is it?

00:29:59.620 What is the word that they want to use?

00:30:01.340 Like, I mean, I don't know what other word they want to come up with at this point, but

00:30:07.120 that's why these, these need transition or voices, like you said, Chloe Cole, they are

00:30:12.180 so important to be shedding light on the reality of what it, what this does to these young people

00:30:19.460 who, who do mutilate their bodies at a young age.

00:30:22.720 And so back to your question about Trump, I appreciate what, what he's saying that that's

00:30:27.560 his number one thing.

00:30:29.000 Think about that.

00:30:30.180 That's his number one thing, Megan.

00:30:32.120 That's pretty powerful.

00:30:33.480 That shows that is his number one thing though.

00:30:35.420 Do you think, I mean, I think to Trump's credit, it's my number one thing.

00:30:38.280 It's probably your number one thing, but I think Trump is more focused on the economy.

00:30:41.980 And I, I, my own theory on why he answered the question that way is he hasn't really been

00:30:47.280 thinking about it that much.

00:30:48.220 You know, he's been thinking about the disastrous inflation and the immigration crisis.

00:30:53.120 And I get it.

00:30:53.660 Those are huge and they're massive.

00:30:54.740 And you know, a lot of people, that's their main focus.

00:30:58.360 You and I are in a different place as we're young moms and so on.

00:31:01.380 I do think Trump will legislate the way we want him to, if he's returned to the white house

00:31:06.060 on this.

00:31:06.860 And remember he's old school, Megan.

00:31:08.620 I mean, think about his age.

00:31:09.820 This wasn't going on when he was our age.

00:31:12.280 I mean, this is insane that he actually is being asked on a, on a huge interview with Megan

00:31:17.460 Kelly.

00:31:17.920 Can a man be a woman?

00:31:19.360 I mean, that's where we're at in society.

00:31:21.500 You're right.

00:31:22.080 You're right.

00:31:23.080 Like, think about that.

00:31:24.700 And then people are criticizing him.

00:31:26.060 Oh, I can't believe it's so obvious.

00:31:29.060 Like.

00:31:31.320 And you know what?

00:31:32.640 He'll, he'll get another chance.

00:31:34.220 You know, some other interviewer will come after me and we'll ask it again in a different

00:31:38.880 form and I'll have a do over at it.

00:31:40.900 And we'll see then, you know, whether he's massage, massage the messaging, but you're right.

00:31:44.800 I mean, I love the question and I know you like the question too, but it is an absurd

00:31:48.820 question.

00:31:49.360 It's an absurd question and it's absurd that I have to ask it.

00:31:52.640 We all know the answer.

00:31:55.480 All right.

00:31:55.720 Stand by.

00:31:56.300 We're going to do a little beauty queen discussion next and how I, I am apparently given Carrie

00:32:02.640 a run for her money in this field.

00:32:04.680 I will show you the surprise reason I say that next.

00:32:14.120 Carrie, John Bowler is with me and she is the, a former Miss California, which I mentioned

00:32:20.120 for a reason.

00:32:21.820 Carrie, I too am apparently in beauty queen contest and, uh, you know, they don't get as

00:32:26.980 much coverage as they ought to.

00:32:28.280 But, um, I made news, uh, apparently because the recent winner of the, you know, Miss universe,

00:32:36.580 if he's in a Miss universe, Miss Zimbabwe is said online by some to be a Megan Kelly look

00:32:44.420 alike.

00:32:45.020 And I am here to tell you, I only wish my legs looked like this woman's legs.

00:32:50.620 Um, they're about 25 miles high, but the reason this is made news is not because some people

00:32:56.700 feel she looks like me and we'll show you the little, um, side by side in a minute.

00:33:00.980 It's because she's controversial because she's white.

00:33:05.940 And now some people look, there we are side by side.

00:33:08.700 I think she looks more like Catherine Heigl.

00:33:11.220 Some people say I have a resemblance to, but in any event, there we are.

00:33:14.740 Um, they're mad that a, a white colonialist won the Miss Zimbabwe pageant, even though

00:33:22.240 whites are apparently only 2% of the population out there.

00:33:24.940 And they're pissed off that Zimbabweans aren't racist enough to reject the white girl.

00:33:30.740 Oh my goodness.

00:33:31.760 Okay.

00:33:32.080 So last night I was prepping for your show and I was showing my kids.

00:33:34.760 I said, look, I said, look at Miss Zimbabwe.

00:33:36.900 And they go, that looks like Megan Kelly.

00:33:42.260 I'm like, yeah, it literally looks exactly like you.

00:33:45.840 Um, no, I, I find this, this is so sad, Megan, because she's a native from Zimbabwe.

00:33:51.940 Like, why are we making this a big deal?

00:33:54.120 You know, why can't we just let the girl win?

00:33:56.460 Thank God she is a real woman.

00:33:58.380 Right.

00:33:58.760 I mean, that's where I stand.

00:34:00.120 Let's just be thankful for that.

00:34:02.780 Um, but just the comments online, like I was going through it last night and I just thought,

00:34:06.300 wow, people are so hateful.

00:34:08.280 They're so cruel, you know?

00:34:09.760 And I loved her response of saying like, you know, the color of our skin should not define

00:34:13.880 a person.

00:34:14.440 Um, you know, we're all beautifully kind made by God.

00:34:18.220 And I, I'm like, good for her, you know, to obviously the judges picked her.

00:34:22.780 Like, why are we not criticizing the judges?

00:34:24.600 Why are we criticizing this girl?

00:34:25.820 She's, you know, she's just like, Hey, I'm the winner.

00:34:28.660 Don't blame me.

00:34:30.340 So like, get over it.

00:34:32.160 Yeah.

00:34:32.380 Get over it.

00:34:33.100 You know?

00:34:33.560 I mean, yes, I know.

00:34:35.800 I thought it was absolutely ridiculous.

00:34:37.420 And I'm thrilled that, you know, now there's somebody who is going to represent the Kelly

00:34:41.980 name at the Miss Universe match.

00:34:45.920 They're going to be like, what's that?

00:34:47.640 Why would they elect a 52 year old woman from New York as Miss Zimbabwe?

00:34:52.120 But no, no, she, I think she's 20.

00:34:55.180 I said to Debbie, Canadian Debbie, I'm like, don't we have like a, you know, something from

00:34:58.940 the interview portion where we could hear how she sounds.

00:35:01.300 She's like, MK, it's Miss Zimbabwe.

00:35:03.760 We know we don't have the, we do not have the interview portion.

00:35:07.420 I know, but I feel like, yeah, go ahead.

00:35:12.000 No, no, you go ahead.

00:35:13.480 I was going to say, like, I watched it and I thought it was so sad because even the girl

00:35:18.040 that put the sash around her and put the crown on her, she kind of looked bummed out.

00:35:22.000 You know, it was really sad that people weren't really celebrating her win.

00:35:25.660 Why are we looking at the color of the skin?

00:35:28.340 Why aren't we looking at, I mean, obviously it's a beauty contest, right?

00:35:31.420 It should be.

00:35:32.460 And it should be based on, you know, your personality and your answer and, and all that,

00:35:36.880 that goes into it, but she was clearly gorgeous.

00:35:40.880 I mean, think about it.

00:35:42.180 We're, we're demonizing a pageant for picking the prettiest one, in my opinion.

00:35:46.560 Well, and then, and then we do exactly the opposite.

00:35:48.800 Okay.

00:35:49.160 When the trans contestants run, which is happening, a couple of trans people want, and I don't

00:35:52.960 know, the Netherlands and another place too.

00:35:54.940 So then that diversity is fine.

00:35:57.400 You know, when it's an, a man with a penis, that is to be celebrated as that's good diversity,

00:36:03.460 but a white person winning in Zimbabwe, where I presume most of the panel was likely black.

00:36:10.440 That's not okay.

00:36:11.400 That's bad diversity.

00:36:13.040 Yeah.

00:36:13.680 Make up your mind.

00:36:14.820 What is it?

00:36:15.360 Do we want diversity?

00:36:16.500 Do we want equity?

00:36:17.540 What do we want?

00:36:18.260 Do we want inclusion?

00:36:19.760 So penis, good.

00:36:21.180 White skin, bad.

00:36:23.160 Yeah.

00:36:23.400 Woman face, good.

00:36:24.920 Um, beautiful girl, not good.

00:36:28.480 So, all right.

00:36:29.900 So that brings me to the, the, the, the homecoming queen situation.

00:36:34.040 Now, look, I, I'm, so I'm not trying to pick on this one trans person who won homecoming

00:36:41.900 queen in Missouri.

00:36:42.820 All right.

00:36:43.460 I, I'm sure this person, I don't know, this person lost their father, uh, in 2020.

00:36:49.860 It's a boy who's posing as a girl.

00:36:52.720 And I, having lost my own dad in high school feel for him, I'm sure he does have issues as

00:36:57.640 a result of this.

00:36:58.820 However, it doesn't make him a woman.

00:37:02.780 And he was just voted the homecoming queen at this student in Oak park at this school in

00:37:10.720 Oak park and respectfully, this is not a beautiful woman or even attempt at looking like a woman.

00:37:17.140 Um, and yet he won and it's not the first time.

00:37:20.820 And in fact, they voted for a boy to win homecoming queen a couple of years ago.

00:37:25.680 And that person now we actually took a look.

00:37:29.160 That person now is a drag queen, uh, who is using the moniker.

00:37:35.380 What is it?

00:37:36.000 Lana Lux with double X's, the Japanese Barbie of Kansas city.

00:37:41.840 So, and posing all sort of not safe for work content.

00:37:45.380 So that's, this school has like a history, but the thing that, you know, Riley gains back to her

00:37:49.780 again, she said something about this.

00:37:51.520 And I was like, it's a good way to put it.

00:37:53.080 And she said, uh, I wonder if a female will win homecoming King, or if it's simply understood

00:37:59.160 that both of these spots are reserved for males and saying, this is another reminder to all

00:38:06.120 girls that men make the best women that boy, that sums it up.

00:38:12.820 It really does.

00:38:13.860 And it makes me so sad, Megan.

00:38:15.320 I mean, think back to high school, you know, it was every girl's dream to win homecoming

00:38:19.160 queen.

00:38:19.460 I mean, if you want homecoming queen, you were like the coolest girl in the school.

00:38:24.300 And I just feel so sad for our girls because you look at the four girls next to him.

00:38:31.060 And I thought, where is their courage?

00:38:33.660 Where is it?

00:38:34.220 What kind of girls are we raising?

00:38:35.820 Oh, girls that just go in the picture and smile and just say, yeah, boy just took our

00:38:40.300 title of homecoming point.

00:38:41.760 Like, why are we not raising strong women that say, absolutely not.

00:38:45.540 Am I going to accept this?

00:38:46.680 And where are those parents?

00:38:49.480 Shame on them.

00:38:50.260 Shame on those girls.

00:38:51.660 Shame on those girls.

00:38:52.640 We need to be raising strong women like you and I, who would say, absolutely not.

00:38:57.080 He just took my title of homecoming queen.

00:39:00.500 It's not acceptable.

00:39:02.860 And people better wake up, Megan, because Riley Gaines is exactly right.

00:39:07.020 Men make a better woman than a real woman.

00:39:09.780 And that's where we're at.

00:39:10.780 And it's really sad for our daughters.

00:39:13.660 We all know men make the best women.

00:39:16.100 So well put.

00:39:17.660 I'm going to be using that again.

00:39:19.060 That's exactly what they're trying to say.

00:39:20.500 And I understand that maybe they felt bad for this guy.

00:39:23.280 He had he had a family loss, maybe.

00:39:25.760 And by the way, that's the only thing he pointed to when he said I had a rough time in high school.

00:39:30.180 So one of the publications local asked him and he was like, well, my dad died.

00:39:33.360 And I get it.

00:39:33.980 As I said, I get it, but that it doesn't make you doesn't give you an entitlement to be in women's

00:39:40.000 spaces, winning women's awards.

00:39:41.860 There are few enough.

00:39:43.200 And I realize it's like, oh, homecoming queen, who gives a shit?

00:39:45.780 But you're right.

00:39:46.420 And I when I was in high school, I won the homecoming princess when I was the sophomore.

00:39:52.040 I was which is not queen.

00:39:53.560 I did not win a guy.

00:39:56.500 That was not a thing back when I was in high school.

00:39:59.220 But I will say I I had been very badly bullied just a few years earlier.

00:40:05.120 And to win that as a sophomore was such a boost of confidence for me.

00:40:09.580 It was like, OK, my God, you know, I've sort of made it back.

00:40:12.460 I've I've I have friends.

00:40:14.560 I'm not going to be targeted now.

00:40:16.500 And I'm sure trans people have a difficult time, too, though, not apparently at this school,

00:40:20.140 not at this school.

00:40:21.520 There's got to be some other way of helping them feel good about themselves rather than taking

00:40:26.120 those opportunities away, those spots away, that moment of like, OK, you know what?

00:40:29.960 This is a nice honor.

00:40:31.260 It's it's not just about, you know, beauty.

00:40:33.760 It's all it's about, I'm sure, other personal factor, personality factors, too.

00:40:37.200 But it's a woman's award.

00:40:38.560 It's a young girl's award.

00:40:40.640 He doesn't belong there.

00:40:42.060 It's not appropriate.

00:40:44.420 Yeah.

00:40:44.640 And I want to know, did they all give speeches like, you know, oh, hear my sob story?

00:40:49.620 Because we all have them.

00:40:50.980 You know, we all have the sob story.

00:40:52.580 Is that what it's becoming is who's the who's the most, you know, victimized?

00:40:57.500 Like, what about the other four girls?

00:40:59.520 Why didn't they get an opportunity to share their story?

00:41:01.940 Maybe they had a death in the family.

00:41:03.680 Maybe something's going on in their life.

00:41:05.180 And think about how they feel.

00:41:06.580 They just lost out homecoming clean to a guy.

00:41:10.820 That is how they feel right now.

00:41:14.260 And they're too afraid, Megan.

00:41:15.940 They're too afraid because they they know better if they speak out.

00:41:19.140 Oh, you better watch out.

00:41:20.840 You could never, you know, you look, you look back at the Zimbabwe thing.

00:41:25.400 They look out at the field of candidates and they say, oh, they're all one thing.

00:41:29.780 Why would why is it OK to to hire this other thing or not hire, but honor this other thing

00:41:37.340 to represent all those who don't look like the winner?

00:41:41.580 Not OK.

00:41:42.700 But in this situation, this guy's he's it's not even a woman.

00:41:47.140 He's not even in the right category.

00:41:49.260 And the other one, we're just talking about melanin here.

00:41:52.080 This is it's a man.

00:41:53.580 It is a boy.

00:41:55.020 The guy has a penis like that.

00:41:58.260 I guarantee you he didn't have the same history as the little girls did.

00:42:01.840 He came up a different way.

00:42:03.180 He didn't have the same challenges they had.

00:42:04.560 He had his own set of challenges.

00:42:05.660 I get it.

00:42:06.660 But like the double standard is so obvious.

00:42:11.540 Yeah, it is.

00:42:12.380 It's wrong.

00:42:13.120 It's absolutely wrong.

00:42:14.120 And it happened here in my city in San Diego here where it was actually a football player.

00:42:19.240 It wasn't even like a trans.

00:42:21.220 It wasn't even a guy masquerading as a woman.

00:42:23.620 It was it was a football player that won homecoming.

00:42:25.900 Can you believe that?

00:42:27.420 That's where we're at.

00:42:28.260 And when I left, I actually got sick to my stomach and I left the game.

00:42:30.980 And I said to one of the teachers at the front gate, I said, you just allowed some dude to

00:42:37.540 win homecoming queen.

00:42:38.560 You know, she said, oh, we don't call it homecoming queen anymore.

00:42:41.200 We call it a homecoming royalty.

00:42:43.400 I go, oh, so my God, you kings like what is this coming to?

00:42:48.720 Yeah, that's going on.

00:42:50.220 That's what's next.

00:42:51.020 They're going to eliminate homecoming queen and it's going to be two dudes.

00:42:53.760 Watch it.

00:42:54.260 Watch what happens.

00:42:55.220 I say again, it's like at the beauty pageant level.

00:42:58.220 Yes, there are scholarships and so on that these men are taking.

00:43:01.240 There's all sorts of opportunity that, you know, can come from a beauty pageant win that

00:43:05.540 are no longer, you know, this whoever was runner up in the Netherlands is not going to get because

00:43:11.200 a guy now has it.

00:43:12.960 But the same like as I speak of like the confidence boost you get as a young girl, I think of what

00:43:19.180 it's like to be a teenager.

00:43:20.300 My God.

00:43:21.240 And it's not that I don't feel for the position this guy is in, but it shouldn't his making

00:43:26.380 him feel better should not come at the cost or the expense of the young girls at that

00:43:30.300 school.

00:43:30.560 And, you know, for sure that the others felt pressured into voting for this guy.

00:43:34.440 That's why it's like that's why the girls didn't say anything.

00:43:36.540 I'm sure they were like, holy shit, everybody's going to think I'm a bigot unless I say, yeah,

00:43:40.160 it's great.

00:43:40.660 He won.

00:43:41.120 Yeah.

00:43:41.400 Oh, yeah.

00:43:41.700 Look, it's so beautiful and so awesome.

00:43:43.400 And yeah, good for him.

00:43:44.280 No matter how many conversations you and I have like this, because you got people like

00:43:49.200 Megan Rapinoe out there saying something wrong with you if you object to this, something wrong

00:43:54.580 with you if you object to males and women's sports, too, even though she never had to do

00:43:59.000 it right.

00:43:59.540 She didn't have men on her team or men playing against her except for that one exhibition

00:44:03.060 match.

00:44:03.460 And now here's Megan Rapinoe on her last middle finger to the United States, which made her

00:44:10.800 rich, which gave her a college scholarship, which gave her seven million dollars a year

00:44:16.360 reportedly in endorsements and fees for playing soccer for us on her swan song out the door.

00:44:22.540 Her last match as as a member of the U.S.

00:44:25.740 team.

00:44:26.980 Here she is when the national anthem played.

00:44:28.920 Watch.

00:44:29.320 Oh, say can you see, by the dawn's early light, what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's

00:44:47.660 last gleaming, whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous.

00:44:59.320 Let us find for the land of the free and the home of the brave.

00:45:24.320 Scowling.

00:45:24.720 Scowling with her hands behind her back as the little girls in front of her put their

00:45:30.640 hands on their heart.

00:45:32.160 She doesn't sing one word.

00:45:34.160 She doesn't touch her heart.

00:45:35.560 She looks angry the entire time she's out there.

00:45:39.200 And of course, we know she said she's never going to sing the anthem again.

00:45:43.220 She said that a couple of years ago because of equity, because now, as she put it to a magazine,

00:45:47.780 quote, she is now awake and she needs to protest this country's abysmal civil rights record.

00:45:55.620 Carrie.

00:45:57.540 This is exactly what a narcissist looks like, Megan.

00:46:00.740 She is the epitome of narcissism, in my opinion.

00:46:05.160 I mean, think of all the privileges she's had.

00:46:09.560 Think of all the money that she's made.

00:46:11.960 Oh, she's so oppressed and she's standing up for things.

00:46:15.600 No, she's not.

00:46:16.800 She's an absolute national disgrace to our country.

00:46:19.440 And most normal people in this in this country agree with that, that they can't stand that

00:46:24.960 woman.

00:46:25.320 I'm so glad that she's done playing soccer.

00:46:27.740 She's ruined women's soccer.

00:46:29.740 She's she's a national disgrace.

00:46:31.880 That Megan Rapinoe now she's on the cover of all these magazines.

00:46:35.780 I am so disgusted with her.

00:46:37.620 I'm done.

00:46:38.400 I am so done with her, Megan.

00:46:40.340 What did you receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom from President Biden, the highest

00:46:44.660 civilian honor in the land?

00:46:46.480 Her relationship with Sue Bird, a lesbian relationship, has been celebrated by virtually every magazine

00:46:52.260 and in every media corner.

00:46:53.520 And still, she can't find even the gesture of putting her hand on her heart for the country

00:47:00.380 that's made her rich, famous, just for playing a sport she supposedly loved while she sets

00:47:07.180 a terrible example for our little girls.

00:47:10.260 All I can say is, thank God those girls were looking forward and not looking back at Megan

00:47:16.240 Rapinoe.

00:47:16.880 Let's hope it's true metaphorically, in addition to being an actual physical reality, because

00:47:22.260 she is no role model.

00:47:24.780 Good riddance.

00:47:26.440 And I hope she rides off into the sunset to be alone with Sue Bird.

00:47:31.200 I hope I never have to listen to her comment on any soccer game or anything in the future

00:47:36.520 because she doesn't deserve it.

00:47:38.220 She's not grateful for the support this country has shown her.

00:47:41.540 Standby.

00:47:42.200 Much more to get to, including what the hell is happening with our children's programming.

00:47:46.620 Two minutes away.

00:47:47.200 So one of the things I wanted to talk to you about as a mother with children like me is

00:47:56.320 what's happening with Paw Patrol.

00:47:59.140 I mean, who hasn't put their kids in front of Paw Patrol?

00:48:03.120 I mean, I always thought it was one of the most wholesome, sweetest little offerings for

00:48:08.180 your kids.

00:48:08.620 Absolutely nothing controversial like the sweet little dogs.

00:48:11.280 You know, half the kids want to be one of these dogs for Halloween.

00:48:13.280 Um, now they have decided it might be a good idea on their spinoff of Paw Patrol to introduce

00:48:21.060 a non-binary character.

00:48:24.040 We need a non-binary character, um, who I'll just show you the picture because what they've

00:48:29.100 done is they've, they've just put the LGBTQ plus flag on the guys, gals, whatever on his,

00:48:37.200 her, they's, I don't, I can't, uh, feet.

00:48:41.480 So they've got like the LGBTQ trans flag on their feet and the, I don't know, pink and

00:48:49.600 blue, whatever it is.

00:48:50.700 I can't tell there's this person's intentionally like the Chris or Pat character from Saturday

00:48:58.360 Night Live.

00:48:59.620 We just, you don't know, unclear.

00:49:02.120 And, um, this is a new spinoff show off of Paw Patrol called Rubble and Crew.

00:49:07.400 So parents should know it's called Rubble and Crew.

00:49:09.840 Uh, they say the non-binary identity is not directly addressed on the show yet.

00:49:16.640 And they don't yet have this kid giving the pronouns, but Matt Walsh is making the point,

00:49:22.840 Carrie, that this is what they do.

00:49:24.040 They try to get your kids comfortable with this kind of presentation and the flag and

00:49:32.060 sort of these subliminal messages so that when it becomes more explicit in the later

00:49:37.400 years of school, and by that, I mean, third grade, uh, it's totally normal and fine.

00:49:42.440 And, you know, they slip right into it.

00:49:44.400 What do you make of it?

00:49:45.980 Yeah.

00:49:46.500 I mean, when I heard this, I go, oh my gosh.

00:49:48.800 I mean, I remember, I mean, little kids watch Paw Patrol, tiny kids, not like big kids,

00:49:54.240 little kids.

00:49:55.340 And so when I first saw this, I dug a little bit deeper and I found the writer of that.

00:49:59.480 I mean, I think, I think her name is Linz Amer, if I'm correct.

00:50:03.440 Uh, she's the one that wrote in this character and she wrote, I wanted to write a non-binary

00:50:09.560 character that was aspirational, incredibly cool.

00:50:12.100 Someone for the pups and kids at home to look up to.

00:50:15.000 This is the goal, Megan.

00:50:16.560 They want to normalize this stuff.

00:50:18.360 Think about it.

00:50:19.220 A little three-year-old sees that and, and, oh, there's the trans flag.

00:50:22.640 And then they grow up with this stuff thinking it's normal.

00:50:24.840 And then they go to public school and they're indoctrinated with it.

00:50:27.700 They see the rainbow flag and the trans flag in the classroom.

00:50:30.340 And it's just part of their normal life.

00:50:32.380 This is the goal.

00:50:33.760 This is what they want.

00:50:35.020 And then you dig a little bit deeper and you, you look into what this writer is all about.

00:50:40.780 And she's a, they, them, whatever the hell that means.

00:50:43.920 She's a, they, them.

00:50:44.860 So she's pushing her crap on our kids.

00:50:49.640 It's, it's so, it's so wrong.

00:50:52.320 And she wrote two books called Rainbow Parenting and, um, you know, another book, uh, I forget

00:50:58.720 the name of it, but I mean, she's pushing her agenda.

00:51:02.200 It's all for kids.

00:51:03.100 It's all for, she's very focused on children.

00:51:05.000 That's her sole focus.

00:51:06.920 Exactly.

00:51:07.620 Exactly.

00:51:08.160 It's called hooray for she, he, the, and they, what is the Megan?

00:51:13.560 I cannot keep up.

00:51:15.020 No, it's not a thing.

00:51:16.360 They're trying to make it a thing.

00:51:17.500 It's not a thing.

00:51:18.400 I refuse.

00:51:19.360 It's a no.

00:51:19.820 Two words.

00:51:20.560 Two words.

00:51:21.100 Hard.

00:51:21.340 No, hard.

00:51:22.060 No, hard.

00:51:22.720 No, it's hard.

00:51:23.620 No, if I had a nickel for every time I have stolen that from you, um, it would make up all

00:51:28.760 the money I lost from the Trump mutilation video.

00:51:30.940 Okay, now it's not just Paw Patrol.

00:51:34.540 So this woman, as we started to look at this woman, Linz Amer, um, we find out she was brought

00:51:40.660 on by Nickelodeon two years ago, 2021 to consult on yet another beloved series, Blue's Clues.

00:51:48.180 This completely escaped my notice because Blue's Clues aired an episode that featured transgender

00:51:54.840 beavers with mastectomy scars with even Abby's laughing.

00:52:01.260 Yes.

00:52:01.540 Mastectomy scars.

00:52:02.460 Look, these are, I think they're little band-aids over their mastectomy scarred chests.

00:52:08.680 This is insane.

00:52:10.380 And this woman says her main goal is to expand the definition of family.

00:52:15.700 She wants to change what we understand to be family.

00:52:19.360 I, I, to have more Z's and Z's and, you know, I guess non-traditional.

00:52:24.260 I don't know.

00:52:24.660 This is the same mission of Black Lives Matter, not for nothing.

00:52:27.660 Yeah, this is a Marxism one-on-one.

00:52:30.080 They want to destroy the nuclear family and she's not even ashamed to say it.

00:52:33.960 That's the crazy part.

00:52:35.360 She's publicly saying this stuff.

00:52:37.340 She's publicly saying that she wants to indoctrinate your children.

00:52:40.540 And for all the moms out there that are listening right now, make sure you are paying attention

00:52:45.240 to what your kids are watching, you know, get the privacy apps and do all the things that

00:52:51.660 are necessary because this is the goal, Megan.

00:52:54.060 They want to indoctrinate our kids.

00:52:56.440 It's not a secret anymore.

00:52:58.560 It's, it's, they're out.

00:52:59.460 Unless you've seen the show, right?

00:53:01.840 Or you've seen the movie.

00:53:03.200 Don't put your kid in front of it.

00:53:04.160 Unless you've personally watched it already.

00:53:07.120 Don't, don't go.

00:53:08.820 Uh, by the way, not for nothing.

00:53:09.960 Uh, yesterday was my son's 14th birthday and the whole family went to see the movie in

00:53:14.300 the movie theater, um, the haunting of Venice.

00:53:17.800 It's based on an Agatha Christie book.

00:53:20.000 It stars Kenneth Branagh as detective Hercule Perrault.

00:53:23.280 I recommend it.

00:53:24.340 We all really enjoyed it.

00:53:25.800 Jump scares, you know, uh, you know, our youngest is 10.

00:53:29.420 He handled it just fine.

00:53:30.340 If you have a kid who scares easily, maybe not, but totally enjoyed it.

00:53:33.980 Okay.

00:53:34.380 But back to blues clues.

00:53:35.520 Listen to this Canadian Debbie pulled the lyrics from the tune, the parade sing-along

00:53:41.920 that was in this episode, released in May of 2021.

00:53:44.720 Um, and the parade is set to the classic tune of the ants go marching, but listen to the

00:53:50.360 lyrics.

00:53:52.320 Families marching four by four.

00:53:54.400 Hurrah, hurrah.

00:53:56.320 Families marching four by four.

00:53:58.340 Hurrah, hurrah.

00:54:00.380 Trans members of this family all love each other so proudly and they all go marching in

00:54:06.860 the big parade.

00:54:09.160 Come join the fun.

00:54:10.140 Families marching five by five.

00:54:12.380 Hurrah, hurrah.

00:54:14.280 Families marching five by five.

00:54:16.400 Hurrah, hurrah.

00:54:18.320 Some people choose their family.

00:54:20.260 They love each other so proudly and they all go marching in the big parade.

00:54:28.220 Families marching six by six.

00:54:30.420 Hurrah, hurrah.

00:54:32.300 Families marching six by six.

00:54:34.360 Hurrah, hurrah.

00:54:35.780 Ace by and pan grownups you see can love each other so proudly.

00:54:40.080 And they all go marching in the big parade.

00:54:45.000 Oh, yeah.

00:54:47.680 Is it over?

00:54:49.220 Is it?

00:54:50.340 Ace by and pan.

00:54:52.280 What's an ace?

00:54:53.140 What's an ace family?

00:54:54.500 What even?

00:54:55.660 That's this woman's handiwork.

00:54:57.140 She's everywhere.

00:54:57.920 She's behind Blue's Clues.

00:54:59.260 She's behind the Paw Patrol spinoff.

00:55:01.360 You know, it's true.

00:55:02.640 You can't trust anybody anymore.

00:55:04.980 Yeah.

00:55:05.840 This is why many conservatives and just normal parents in general need to play on offense

00:55:12.920 consistently.

00:55:14.200 We are always as conservative on the defense.

00:55:17.060 They just add all these, you know, letters to the LGBT mafia, rainbow mafia.

00:55:22.440 And we're just like, oh, OK, yeah.

00:55:24.640 Let me just go along with it.

00:55:25.900 No, we need to come out swinging and as conservatives say hard.

00:55:30.540 No, this is not acceptable.

00:55:32.600 You won't have.

00:55:33.400 That's basically a drag queen right there.

00:55:35.640 We just saw a drag queen on there.

00:55:37.160 They're trying to normalize this crap.

00:55:38.720 They want to indoctrinate your kids.

00:55:41.120 It's insane.

00:55:41.920 Canadian Debbie's telling me ace is short for asexual, which, by the way, if you are, you

00:55:47.560 don't have children.

00:55:49.140 That's generally how it works.

00:55:50.900 The sex needs to happen with a member of the opposite sex in order to create the baby.

00:55:54.620 Hate to break it to you, lady, but that's general.

00:55:57.040 That's how you came into the world.

00:55:58.340 And that's pretty much how everybody came into the world.

00:56:00.360 Sorry if you don't like it, but that's the only way humanity continues.

00:56:04.260 The celebration of the double mastectomy scars.

00:56:07.840 I realize these are like beavers.

00:56:10.300 I don't they look like bears to me.

00:56:11.660 Whatever.

00:56:12.580 OK, but it's, of course, not just in the animal kingdom on cartoon television for children.

00:56:18.140 It was just the razor company brawn.

00:56:21.520 OK, the razor company brawn just a couple of years ago was releasing an ad that looked

00:56:27.440 like this to get men to buy its razors.

00:56:30.040 But this is the kind of ad we're used to.

00:56:31.340 Let's see it.

00:56:31.720 Some people see shaving as something you do for three minutes a day.

00:56:42.820 At brawn, we see it as something you do for a lifetime.

00:56:46.360 And we think you should make the best of it.

00:56:49.100 The brawn shaver.

00:56:50.520 With its three shaving positions.

00:56:53.460 Designed for those who choose to make a virtue out of necessity.

00:56:57.020 Braun, the world's number one selling foil shaver.

00:57:01.940 OK, more than a couple of years ago, the 80s.

00:57:05.200 My point is, this is how they used to try to appeal to men.

00:57:08.580 Now they're using a woman proudly displaying her double mastectomy scars.

00:57:16.460 Look at this.

00:57:17.660 Look at this advertisement for their razors.

00:57:20.760 Now, this is what they're showing.

00:57:22.740 This is a woman posing as a man.

00:57:26.120 And like she's obviously taking hormones to grow that facial hair, which now I guess

00:57:32.720 she wants to pay brawn to help her shave off.

00:57:35.160 Carrie.

00:57:37.260 This literally like disturbs me so badly because now I had to come up with a new word and it's

00:57:43.420 called man face.

00:57:44.120 And this is exactly what it is.

00:57:46.820 It is man face, just like men are masquerading as women, wearing woman face.

00:57:51.440 This is man face.

00:57:52.440 And it's not OK.

00:57:53.940 And I want those hot men like that guy in the commercial to come out swinging and say,

00:57:59.000 this is not OK.

00:58:01.200 Right.

00:58:02.440 This is insane.

00:58:03.680 You have a woman that is taking medication to make her beard grow out and then she's shaving it.

00:58:08.860 It makes no sense.

00:58:10.120 It hurts my mind.

00:58:11.320 It's so insane.

00:58:12.000 I know.

00:58:12.960 And Braun's response is, well, we have lots of ads, you know, like she, this, this, she,

00:58:17.700 although they would be calling her, he appears in just one of them.

00:58:21.000 This is why, you know, over at Daily Wire, our friends, Jeremy Boring, he's he helps run

00:58:25.700 Daily Wire along with Ben.

00:58:28.220 He's got Jeremy's razors because I can't remember whether it was this company or another one,

00:58:31.780 but they went super woke.

00:58:33.220 No, it was Gillette, wasn't it?

00:58:34.500 With that, with that ridiculous ad.

00:58:36.440 And he created Jeremy's razors.

00:58:38.020 And if you're a man, why don't you just buy Jeremy's razors?

00:58:40.200 Buy Jeremy's razors all day long.

00:58:41.500 You can avoid the, why, how is the razor company God woke?

00:58:44.360 For the love of God, you're right.

00:58:46.000 It's like, what was it?

00:58:47.360 Why do we need woke razors?

00:58:49.460 Why?

00:58:49.700 I don't get it.

00:58:51.460 Men have their spaces.

00:58:53.060 Women have their spaces.

00:58:54.740 Let's stop pandering to this gender ideology cult.

00:58:59.340 And it's all about ESG.

00:59:00.880 I mean, we know that.

00:59:02.120 Like, oh, okay.

00:59:03.040 Numbers just went up because they did this.

00:59:04.780 Like, they don't really care about this, this delusional woman that thinks she's a dude.

00:59:09.440 Like, it's not about that.

00:59:11.200 Give me a break.

00:59:12.080 Yes.

00:59:13.260 Okay.

00:59:13.620 It was after Harry's razors, which I never heard of, went woke.

00:59:17.260 That's when Jeremy's razors was launched.

00:59:18.960 But it's still alive and well.

00:59:20.460 And Jeremy's pushing it at every turn.

00:59:21.960 So I'm going to buy Doug, like, a stocking full for Christmas.

00:59:25.500 And you should, too, if you want to support non-woke razors, which is a thing now.

00:59:29.560 We're going to have, like, the whole lane in Walgreens, like the woke and the non-woke.

00:59:33.720 And we will be on the latter.

00:59:35.860 Now, wait.

00:59:36.320 The other thing I didn't want to talk to you before we went was in Canada.

00:59:39.520 Canada, which is, like, far more, like, progressive than even the United States.

00:59:44.880 Everything there, they're around the bend, the left-wing bend.

00:59:47.520 But even those parents, in a sign of, you know, green shoot hope, have found their nerve.

00:59:55.040 And they went out on what they were dubbing a million march, the one million march for children.

00:59:59.820 Look at this.

01:00:00.840 These are Canadians.

01:00:02.820 I'm sorry.

01:00:03.380 I love Canadians.

01:00:04.260 I'm just saying, like, they don't, you know, they usually kind of roll over and take it.

01:00:08.200 They're so nice.

01:00:09.780 They got out there.

01:00:10.640 They're done rolling over and taking it.

01:00:12.180 Carrie, this is all about what's being done to the children in schools.

01:00:14.940 They're angry about the radical gender ideology and the radical sexual agenda and the erosion of parental authority inside schools.

01:00:26.920 And, of course, in response, you had the Ottawa mayor call them hateful, said this was harassment and bigotry.

01:00:36.500 You know, Justin, I've worn blackface so many times I can't even count them.

01:00:40.000 And Trudeau comes out to say the same, that this is hateful, saying transphobia, homophobia, and biphobia.

01:00:47.760 I mean, what?

01:00:48.720 That's like, what?

01:00:49.640 That is encompassed in the homophobia.

01:00:52.340 Stop using all the words.

01:00:53.760 It's a sign of wokeism.

01:00:54.860 They shove as many words as they can into it.

01:00:59.900 There's no place for it in this country.

01:01:01.640 So we strongly condemn this, this hate and these manifestations of it.

01:01:07.040 And we stand united with the, you know, he can't even say it, too ill, too spirit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:01:12.360 And here's some angry parents not feeling the Trudeau message.

01:01:15.940 We're here to support our kids, our future, to secure a future for our kids.

01:01:23.520 And to say enough is enough.

01:01:26.460 And what would you say to those who characterize this as a protest of hate?

01:01:31.120 It's not about your kids, it's about farming on their kids.

01:01:33.340 I don't see it as hate, and I'm kind of confused as to how when 1.8% of the population want the other 98.something percent to do what they want to do.

01:01:48.280 I'm saying it's a hate because of LGBTQ.

01:01:50.620 I have nothing against the community.

01:01:53.580 They can do what they want in the privacy of their own homes or wherever.

01:01:56.980 And so I am here to tell everyone here that the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

01:02:01.720 And we are all becoming close friends, and we are all going to be able to work together instead of isolated and alone.

01:02:07.960 We've all been in silos working alone.

01:02:10.600 The Muslims, the Christians, the English, the French, the rich, the poor, all separated, the natives, the settlers.

01:02:17.240 And we are overcoming these.

01:02:18.700 Those divisions were created on lies.

01:02:21.980 Look at that.

01:02:22.980 These are, I assume, progressives, like the whole country's progressives, except for Canadian Debbie and Kelly McGuire.

01:02:28.960 But how about that?

01:02:30.200 That I am so hopeful.

01:02:33.040 I am so excited to be living in the time we're living now, Megan, because you know what?

01:02:37.680 The pendulum has swung so far, so far.

01:02:41.840 They are such idiots for what they've done that people are waking up, and this is the perfect example.

01:02:48.780 And you know what?

01:02:50.380 This is the time in America to be alive right now, to fight back against this, to take our families back, to take our kids back, and to unify as one family, one United States of America, and to say, no, you will not indoctrinate our children.

01:03:05.560 We're going to stand up, and we won't be gaslit any longer.

01:03:08.500 We're not hateful.

01:03:09.520 We're loving.

01:03:10.140 We love our kids.

01:03:11.060 Don't gaslight us.

01:03:12.200 I'm sick of this, but I'm proud.

01:03:13.880 I'm so proud of those parents.

01:03:16.000 Me too.

01:03:16.920 I'm so excited.

01:03:18.720 I was looking for Canadian Debbie in there.

01:03:20.940 I'm sure she was probably in the back.

01:03:22.740 She works her issues out through this show.

01:03:24.980 Carrie, it's wonderful to see you.

01:03:30.260 I had so many stories.

01:03:31.440 I'm like, save it for Carrie.

01:03:32.960 Save it, save it, save it.

01:03:34.440 It's great to hear your voice of reason.

01:03:37.260 Thank you, Megan.

01:03:38.640 All right.

01:03:39.080 We'll talk again soon.

01:03:39.860 When we come back, Jason Rantz, author of What's Killing America, is here.

01:03:45.000 I'm looking forward to talking to him.

01:03:46.740 He's got a great outlook on what's happening with our major cities.

01:03:49.560 You know, we can do it all.

01:03:50.320 We can do it all.

01:03:51.040 We're not doing it all.

01:03:51.740 Our cities are a hot mess, and he's got his finger on the pulse of several of them.

01:03:56.600 So we'll get into it.

01:04:01.020 Now, more on the physical and cultural decay of our nation.

01:04:04.960 We kicked off the show by talking about what's happening in San Francisco.

01:04:07.220 Is that the sign of a healthy society?

01:04:09.200 I think we could classify that as cultural decay.

01:04:11.700 Here to discuss what's actually at the heart of our country's most dire problems is Jason Rantz.

01:04:16.800 He's author of the new book just out today.

01:04:18.740 It's called What's Killing America?

01:04:21.740 Inside the Radical Left's Tragic Destruction of Our Cities.

01:04:26.340 And he is also the host of the Jason Rantz Show.

01:04:29.620 Jason, welcome to the show.

01:04:30.860 I did not realize that you do all of this great work, write this book, talk about these issues.

01:04:37.880 And you're based in Seattle?

01:04:40.080 My God, sir.

01:04:41.400 Talk about being in the belly of the beast.

01:04:43.220 Yeah, no kidding.

01:04:43.820 There are like 17 Republicans there.

01:04:45.480 So it's easier for me, I guess, to sort of create my little niche.

01:04:48.840 But yeah, I mean, look, I'm one of those people who like to live in the areas that I talk about.

01:04:54.220 I want to actually visit the places that I talk about rather than just simply relying on someone else's opinion.

01:05:01.600 Because oftentimes it's incredibly skewed.

01:05:03.920 I mean, I live in a city in which people are telling me that everything is fine.

01:05:07.740 Seattle is thriving.

01:05:09.120 There's no problems whatsoever.

01:05:10.560 I'm making it up to go in conservative media.

01:05:13.780 Meanwhile, we've got a homicide number that's about to hit an all-time high.

01:05:18.860 We've never had more fatal overdoses in our history as a city and a county.

01:05:24.860 And the state as a whole is just going down the wrong path.

01:05:29.100 And when I started to do the research for the book, I recognized that in all of these cities and these blue, deeply blue states, they were basically following the exact same pattern.

01:05:39.720 It was like they were reading from the exact same script where we can point directly to policy, whether we're talking about a law change, a strategy initiative.

01:05:51.240 We can point to that and say, OK, that is directly responsible for this end result.

01:05:55.280 And unfortunately, too few people recognize that.

01:05:58.320 They have a general understanding that something's wrong, right, that they know about the crime crisis and homelessness.

01:06:03.780 They realize that their cost of living is through the roof, but they don't necessarily know the why.

01:06:08.760 And so What's Killing America tells you the why.

01:06:12.500 And in particular, you spend some time on crime, like a number of aspects to crime.

01:06:17.520 And I'm definitely interested in the homelessness and the drug problems, too.

01:06:20.300 Very interested.

01:06:20.940 But on the crime, it raised something for me, because I know you take a deep dive into teens and how there's been this movement to sort of decriminalize teens, because that's turned into a thing that's supposed to be racist or inhumane, that we need to understand, you know, teens shouldn't be held accountable for their bad behavior.

01:06:40.340 Absolutely. We have a juvenile crime search started a couple of years ago.

01:06:47.120 I think most of us can recognize why when you go ahead and tell criminals, whether they're teens or not, that you can get away with your crime, that you don't have to really fear any kind of punishment.

01:06:59.120 If anything, if you do end up getting caught by police departments that are already defunded and understaffed, so that's likely not going to happen.

01:07:05.820 But if it does, well, we'll put you into restorative justice programs where you will get community support.

01:07:11.400 It sounds really great on paper.

01:07:12.840 But when you're doing that for teenagers who are already violent, it's not worth the risk to society.

01:07:19.800 These are the kinds of kids who can get restorative justice programs while they're in juvenile detention or an adult prison.

01:07:25.780 I think ultimately, and the reason why a lot of these sort of ideas ended up passing and getting implemented in cities across the country were, I don't know anyone who has an appetite for putting a 15, 16, 17-year-old in jail, right?

01:07:40.460 I think all of us instinctively want to help wherever it is we can, but we're not putting the, you know, the 15-year-old who steals a candy bar from a 7-Eleven in jail, right?

01:07:52.340 What we want to do is put the kids who are bringing a gun to those robberies and actually firing it, those are the ones we want to put in jail.

01:08:00.360 But instead, we're treating them both exactly the same.

01:08:03.560 And the left-wing argument in this case goes, I'm glad you pointed out the racism card, because that's what they're claiming, that the laziest argument any progressive can use, and they use this all the time on the radical left, they claim some disproportionality.

01:08:17.860 They look at the data and say, black teens are disproportionately impacted by fill-in-the-blank.

01:08:23.640 That's all that they claim to get to a point where they say that it's racist.

01:08:28.320 But disproportionality doesn't tell you the why, it just tells you the what.

01:08:31.640 So for them to just jump to that conclusion, it's just incredibly lazy.

01:08:36.000 But that's the argument that they make, and they're able to guilt mostly white voters in cities like Seattle, Portland, L.A., San Francisco, really all across the country, into just accepting that.

01:08:48.520 And we are worse off for it.

01:08:51.340 We are now in a position where our lives are at risk.

01:08:55.280 Sorry.

01:08:55.960 I know a lot of people don't want to acknowledge that.

01:08:58.220 They think it's some kind of hyperbole.

01:09:00.180 But when you look at the crime crisis, all kinds of crime, and again, particularly amongst youth, I think it's pretty clear that things are not where they should be.

01:09:09.800 No, I mean, people like Heather McDonald and many others have done great.

01:09:14.160 Jason Reilly, great work on this.

01:09:16.500 The vast majority of violent crimes are committed by black men.

01:09:20.320 That's the truth.

01:09:21.340 That's why the incarceration rate is disproportionate to the percentage of the population that black men make up.

01:09:27.400 We can get to the root causes of that all day long, but the left doesn't want to do it.

01:09:31.140 They don't want to talk about anything having to do with culture.

01:09:33.980 It's a no-go.

01:09:35.180 But on the subject of teens, black or white, committing crime, there has been this weird movement to really just treat it like it's a nothing, no matter how violent.

01:09:43.740 And like you say, you know, I'm a reform shoplifter.

01:09:46.860 I've told a story in the past about when I was 12 on Halloween, I stole earrings and a necklace.

01:09:51.580 Listen, my mom and my friend's mom caught us and made us go down and confess our crime to the Kmart manager, and it was very scary, and I never stole again.

01:09:58.320 That's not what we're talking about.

01:09:59.520 No one's talking about that.

01:10:00.700 They're talking about violent crimes that these kids, like only a depraved heart would do, like we saw with the two kids.

01:10:06.160 Sorry to use that term.

01:10:07.100 They're not.

01:10:07.520 The two young men who ran down that former police officer just last week.

01:10:13.640 I mean, just mowed him down like he was absolutely nothing and killed this man who had recently retired or going to be treated as adults in the system.

01:10:20.680 But I wanted to mention this.

01:10:22.300 We haven't gotten to this story.

01:10:23.200 Happened a couple weeks ago via the New York Post.

01:10:25.360 Minnesota Democratic official who once vowed to dismantle the Minneapolis Police Department, who actually said right after George Floyd that the police department has systematically failed the black community, has failed all of us.

01:10:43.100 If you're still disagreeing with this basic fact, I'm not sure what to say to you, pushing for defunding.

01:10:47.300 She applauded the Minneapolis School Board's decision to terminate its contract with the police, saying the police should have no place in our children's school.

01:10:57.000 Well, guess what happened?

01:10:57.860 The reason we're showing you her bloody and bruised face here is because she was attacked.

01:11:02.140 And guess by whom?

01:11:03.440 A couple of youths, according to her.

01:11:05.640 Her name is Shavanthy Sathanandan.

01:11:10.080 Forgive me if that's not the pronunciation.

01:11:12.180 But she's a Democratic lawmaker who says in connection with this post, I have a broken leg.

01:11:16.180 Deep lacerations on my head, bruising cuts all over my body, and I have rage.

01:11:22.800 The beating occurred in front of her four-year-old daughter and seven-year-old son around 7.45 p.m. Tuesday.

01:11:28.700 These men knew what they were doing, she wrote.

01:11:30.260 I have no doubt they've done it before, yet they are still on our streets, killing mothers, giving babies psychological trauma that a lifetime of therapy cannot ease, with no hesitation and no remorse.

01:11:40.360 Then she says we need to get illegal guns off our streets.

01:11:42.340 We need to catch these young people who are running wild, creating chaos across our city, and hold them in custody and prosecute them.

01:11:52.300 OK, why are they out in the first place, Representative?

01:11:56.720 Oh, wait, it's because of you and people like you.

01:11:59.800 Precisely. And what drives me mad, and it's a sad reality, but for a lot of folks, they have to personally experience something for them to finally see things the way that a lot of us on the right see things.

01:12:13.740 And that's a shame when we're talking about crime.

01:12:16.820 I don't want to see innocent victims ever, but unless people are individually impacted or they know someone who's impacted someone, whether it's something dramatic like this or having a stolen car or simply taking your kids to the park to find a bunch of homeless people shooting up or smoking fentanyl, that's the point where they start to turn things around.

01:12:39.660 And I think part of it is, and I know this just from my experience living in Seattle, I am surrounded by people who think nothing like me.

01:12:46.700 And I imagine that if I was surrounded by people who only think like me, I would have blinders on to the reality.

01:12:53.800 And when you are so knee deep in your ideology, you tend to just dismiss folks on the other side.

01:13:02.020 And it's really easy to just miss everything.

01:13:06.820 And then all of a sudden it happens to you, and you're wondering why isn't anything being done.

01:13:10.680 And you know what, I like to yell at them and shame them and say, maybe you should have woken up a while ago because we've been talking about this for a while.

01:13:16.900 But I'll take them stepping a little bit closer to my side.

01:13:20.760 They're never going to be on the right, but they could step a little bit towards the middle.

01:13:23.740 And when we're dealing with these kinds of policies, whether it's in Minnesota or California, New York, or Oregon and Washington, we just need to moderate just a little bit, just a little bit.

01:13:36.480 And we can start walking back a lot of these policies.

01:13:38.540 But if they're unwilling to accept a reality on the ground, whether when it comes to crime, drugs or whatever, they're just not going to see any kind of relief.

01:13:49.300 And ultimately it's going to catch up to them.

01:13:51.240 And we're all going to become victimized by this.

01:13:53.380 We don't do anything.

01:13:55.360 Well, it's slowly happening.

01:13:56.700 It's happening with these sanctuary cities and the influx of illegal migrants and their feeling, the consequences of their own decisions and crime we talked about.

01:14:05.040 And even there was a story a couple days ago of Chicago now, which is immersed in crime in a way it hasn't been in years, now pushing maybe we should have city-owned, city-run grocery stores.

01:14:18.940 Because so many are pulling up stops because they can't, they're crime-ridden.

01:14:23.880 They can't run a business anymore there.

01:14:25.560 So they're like, maybe the city should just take over.

01:14:27.600 This is, we get news just today that CVS Pharmacy is announcing the closure of some 900 stores.

01:14:34.380 It's going to happen, I think, 300 one year, 300 the next, because of all, in part, one of the main two reasons was the theft that's happening.

01:14:42.100 Remember, after George Floyd, you were no longer allowed to call the police on young black thieves in your CVS because that was racist.

01:14:51.840 Because you're basically giving them a death sentence in the eyes of these progressives.

01:14:55.780 Meanwhile, they totally ignore the fact that the vast majority of the victims of these crimes are black people, too, in these sort of cities, CVSs and so on.

01:15:04.540 Yeah, there's been a shift in thinking just the culture and how we treat folks who are the criminals.

01:15:09.920 The radical left believe criminals are the actual victims.

01:15:12.420 And when you think of it through that lens that they view the world, they, and I give them, this is the only kudos I give to the radical left, they are open about their positions.

01:15:22.700 They did not hide during the post-George Floyd BLM riots and rallies.

01:15:27.460 They said, we want to dismantle systems of oppression.

01:15:30.400 They said that out loud, and they believe that all of our institutions are systems of oppression.

01:15:35.140 So in order to build them into this sort of utopian society that they would love us to have in this country, they have to break it down.

01:15:44.180 And so they started with criminal justice.

01:15:45.920 They've been doing it for a while.

01:15:47.180 They just haven't had as much success.

01:15:49.760 And then, bam, all of a sudden, because of George Floyd, because everyone just sort of gave into the demands of a small group of recalcitrant activists.

01:15:58.160 Well, they started to see a whole lot of results, and they institutionally changed our criminal justice system all across the country.

01:16:06.520 And so when you tell bad guys, hey, we're not going to charge you if you steal under X amount of dollars worth of product, yeah, they're going to take advantage of that.

01:16:18.240 In Washington state, they passed a bill that prevented officers from vehicular pursuits.

01:16:23.780 And now what that has meant is you steal a car, they can't chase you, you use that car to drive through a storefront, usually a pot shop or a drugstore.

01:16:35.160 They jump in, steal what they can, and then they just drive away in another stolen vehicle.

01:16:40.280 They don't even have to speed away because the cop is not allowed to chase them.

01:16:44.100 And so while that is happening, we've seen a surge of that across the country, but particularly in Washington state.

01:16:50.080 You've got now departments that don't have enough police officers to do the actual investigating to then track down that criminal who just broke into that pot shop or wherever.

01:17:01.340 And when they're juveniles, which we've seen a lot of, they start to think to themselves because they don't have responsible adults in their lives, particularly fathers.

01:17:09.940 When we're talking about young boys, they say, hey, I wonder what else I can get away with.

01:17:15.020 And they take one step further and then another step and another step.

01:17:18.980 And then you see what we did in Las Vegas where they seem to think, oh, well, we'll get out of jail after 30 days.

01:17:24.640 Those are the two kids.

01:17:25.460 Again, I shouldn't use the term kids.

01:17:27.120 They're, I think, 17 and 16 who ran down Andreas Probst.

01:17:32.400 We did this on Kelly's Court with Garagos and Marsha Clark last week.

01:17:36.460 But here is the disturbing video.

01:17:38.560 We don't show the moment of impact, but here's the callousness of the crime that we're discussing right now.

01:17:47.140 My God.

01:17:51.940 And they killed him.

01:17:53.120 Hit his ass.

01:17:54.160 So fun.

01:17:54.840 They're giggling.

01:17:55.340 And to your point, Jason, the names, I will say the names of the perpetrators are Jesus Ayala and I'm looking for the other one here.

01:18:06.960 I have it.

01:18:07.640 And Zamir Keys.

01:18:10.460 And they said, Ayala, when arrested by the cops, he was the driver, said, and I quote,

01:18:16.500 you think this juvenile expletive is going to do some expletive?

01:18:21.720 I'll be out in 30 days.

01:18:23.600 I'll bet you.

01:18:24.460 And then said, it's just a blank and hit and run slap on the wrist.

01:18:30.100 Little did he know that they actually would throw the book at him.

01:18:33.640 He and his partner in crime are going to be tried as adults.

01:18:37.600 They cannot face the death penalty because in 2006, the Supreme Court said it's not available for people who commit their crimes while juveniles.

01:18:45.140 But he wasn't wrong, Jason, that most of these cases, they do get slaps on the wrist and turned right back out onto the streets.

01:18:52.620 Yeah.

01:18:53.340 Where did he learn that?

01:18:54.960 Right.

01:18:55.200 I mean, he's picking up the lingo because he recognizes that it's happening all over the place.

01:19:01.200 And what's killing America?

01:19:01.980 I cover some of these very specific stories where you have hit and runs, literal hit and runs, and there's a slap on the wrist.

01:19:10.260 They end up getting released.

01:19:11.280 And by the way, in one of those cases, the person responsible for a hit and run ends up getting murdered himself several months after he was released from his juvenile summer camp punishment.

01:19:21.880 And these are kids who ultimately, I do think we can save some of them, maybe not all of them.

01:19:28.700 I think in the case of Las Vegas, they sound like sociopaths, but there are cases where we can actually help them.

01:19:34.720 And we're not going to help them if we're never going to show them any kind of legal consequence.

01:19:40.300 We are failing not just the victims, but we're also failing society by just releasing these kids back into the world to just recommit another crime.

01:19:52.560 Oh, wait, wait.

01:19:53.480 You raised this in the book.

01:19:54.940 I wanted to get to this with you.

01:19:56.200 That horrific video of the 15-year-old Christopher, is it Baca, who mowed down this mother and her eight-month-old baby in a stroller.

01:20:08.860 We watched this video.

01:20:10.300 The audience should know, miraculously, they were fine.

01:20:14.520 It's a true miracle that the mother and the baby only had superficial wounds.

01:20:19.560 But this 15-year-old mowed them down.

01:20:22.520 This is such a good example.

01:20:23.460 Can you explain what happened to this kid, this 15-year-old, and what you think should have happened to him?

01:20:30.640 How should he have been handled?

01:20:32.100 He was quite literally put in a form of summer camp.

01:20:35.520 He was there not even for the full term.

01:20:37.220 He was there for ultimately just a few weeks.

01:20:39.720 And it was supposed to get him on the right path.

01:20:41.900 This is restorative justice at work.

01:20:44.520 And the whole concept of restorative justice sounds great on paper.

01:20:50.440 That we're going to bring together community members.

01:20:52.760 We're going to provide therapy.

01:20:54.620 We're going to talk through some of the issues, get the victims sometimes involved, and really provide this holistic approach.

01:21:01.180 And I think that instinctively people are eager to do something like that rather than throw someone in jail.

01:21:07.160 But that's not actually how any of these programs work.

01:21:10.620 Because number one, there's almost never any accountability.

01:21:13.940 There's almost never any oversight.

01:21:15.440 We have programs all across this country where the people don't even show up.

01:21:19.740 So in this case, he goes to summer camp for a few weeks, and then he's released.

01:21:23.940 And in the meantime, this poor victim, the mother, moves out of L.A. County.

01:21:28.740 This was a case of George, I wanted to say Soros for a moment.

01:21:33.420 But we're talking about Gascon, who is a very, very, very radical D.A., who, again, said, I'm looking to dismantle all of these systems.

01:21:43.520 And she, like so many others, said, I don't feel safe anymore.

01:21:46.220 I'm going to leave.

01:21:47.000 She leaves.

01:21:47.680 And then we find out just a few months later, the suspect in this, the criminal in this, ends up getting shot to death.

01:21:54.660 And if you're going to tell me that restorative justice is the place for someone like this, well, you better have some results.

01:22:01.980 You better show us the data.

01:22:03.520 And frankly, the data doesn't exist.

01:22:05.520 The data works when we're talking about someone who, like I said, is stealing a candy bar.

01:22:10.320 That's where these kinds of programs work, because those are the ones who aren't too far gone.

01:22:14.040 But the ones who have already acted out violently, this is what the radical left wants us to believe, that it is worth the risk to society to put them in a restorative justice program rather than jail.

01:22:24.660 And hope that it's going to work and they will not commit another crime.

01:22:28.040 I'm sorry.

01:22:28.940 I don't accept that.

01:22:30.180 I don't accept that.

01:22:31.380 I'm willing to take a risk as a member of society who doesn't want to get hurt on the kid who steals the butterfinger.

01:22:37.140 I'm not willing to take that risk on someone who mows down a mother and her child.

01:22:42.220 It is too much for me.

01:22:43.880 And I think most people are on that page, but they don't realize it's going on.

01:22:47.360 So let's let's talk about the drug problem a bit, because you write about Oregon, not far from where you're living.

01:22:54.100 And how they tried drug decriminalization.

01:22:58.520 This is all the rage in the progressive communities.

01:23:01.880 Like, let's just make it all legal.

01:23:03.620 Heroin, whatever you want, it's fine.

01:23:05.680 And we're actually going to help you.

01:23:07.140 We're going to help you do it safer.

01:23:09.460 That's what they want, like a more safe alternative for people who are addicted to drugs.

01:23:13.900 So how did that work out?

01:23:15.320 Oh, it didn't.

01:23:16.080 And they're still doing it, of course.

01:23:17.520 So this is one of those terms, again, that I think sounds great on paper.

01:23:21.940 And it's called harm reduction.

01:23:24.080 Now, if I went outside and I asked just 10 random people if they ever heard of the term, could define the term, 10 out of 10 would tell me no.

01:23:31.700 They would have no idea.

01:23:32.600 And yet this is the policy that is in place, not just in Oregon, but all across the country.

01:23:37.360 It's been adopted by the Biden administration as well.

01:23:42.320 It's a form of drug treatment, they claim, in which they make it safer to consume an illicit substance.

01:23:49.840 And their argument is if we can keep the addict alive long enough to get treatment, he or she will finally do so.

01:23:56.760 So let's give them a clean needle so they're not spreading blood-borne disease.

01:24:00.220 We'll give them a crack pipe or a booty bumping kit, which I get to in the book.

01:24:04.820 I love saying that in front of 3 million Americans on Tucker.

01:24:07.340 It is dark.

01:24:08.060 I did not know about this thing.

01:24:09.360 It is dark.

01:24:10.060 It's exactly what it sounds like.

01:24:11.360 And it's internal.

01:24:12.280 Let's just say that.

01:24:13.760 Don't Google any photos or videos of that.

01:24:15.960 But they're saying let's give away these tools and then eventually we'll be able to treat these people.

01:24:21.380 On paper, that sounds great.

01:24:22.440 In reality, they don't do any treatment.

01:24:24.100 They don't put money into treatment or detox at all.

01:24:26.560 There's never any pressure to push people into treatment or detox because they believe that any kind of judgment is stigmatizing against the user.

01:24:34.420 And so they don't want to do anything.

01:24:36.160 As a result of that, we have seen record high numbers of dead addicts all across the country.

01:24:41.960 We've seen just today there was a report came out that I believe it's 31 states saw an increase in fentanyl overdoses year over year.

01:24:50.020 And keep in mind the last two and three years, we've seen record highs.

01:24:54.260 Oregon is going in the complete wrong direction.

01:24:57.980 This was passed by voters.

01:24:59.540 Measure 110.

01:25:00.500 I get through some of the data in the book.

01:25:01.740 But essentially, you're given the opportunity as someone who ends up getting ticketed for an illicit substance abuse.

01:25:08.580 You can avoid paying the ticket so long as you call this number on the back of it to get some sort of treatment.

01:25:14.440 Well, guess what?

01:25:15.140 They didn't show up to court and they didn't call up the number.

01:25:17.760 And it's been a total failure.

01:25:19.460 Washington state did virtually the same thing.

01:25:21.540 It went about it a little bit different way.

01:25:23.060 They finally just walked it back because in Seattle and King County, we've seen an historic rise of overdoses.

01:25:30.700 A lot of it is driven by fentanyl.

01:25:32.480 Some of it also is meth.

01:25:33.800 To give you a sense of how bad it is in the Pacific Northwest, there was a study by the University of Washington that came out about three or so weeks ago.

01:25:41.260 And they tested the surfaces and the air of our metro systems, our transit.

01:25:47.580 100% of the air had meth in it.

01:25:53.060 Had meth smoke detected.

01:25:55.240 98% on surfaces.

01:25:57.300 It was a little bit less on fentanyl.

01:25:58.920 I think that's a little bit having to do with the way that fentanyl is consumed.

01:26:02.560 But 100%, I mean, just think about that for a second.

01:26:04.900 100%.

01:26:05.420 And by the way, they had the gall to tell us, oh, it's totally safe to continue to take transit.

01:26:09.020 Don't worry.

01:26:09.640 Stop complaining.

01:26:10.660 But the fact of the matter is, that obviously indicates a problem with drug abuse.

01:26:15.800 And you can track the data so clearly because back in 2018, our prosecutor in King County, which is where Seattle is located at the time, said, we're no longer going to charge for personal possession.

01:26:27.740 We're no longer going to consider that a criminal justice issue.

01:26:30.960 Well, guess what happened?

01:26:32.180 Number one, the drug dealers stopped carrying as much product on them.

01:26:36.340 They were carrying personal possession amounts.

01:26:38.300 So in case they were stopped by a cop, they can get out of it.

01:26:41.040 Number two, the cops no longer had any leverage over an addict to turn on the drug dealer because before they could say, look, I'm going to throw you in jail.

01:26:48.800 You're going to detox over the weekend in jail unless you give me information on your drug dealer.

01:26:53.480 Well, they no longer had to do that.

01:26:55.480 And all of a sudden, you've got open air drug use all over the place and people are dying in record numbers.

01:27:00.660 Every single year since 2018, we've seen a historic high overdose rate every single year.

01:27:06.420 When you look at Philadelphia, you write about this in the book.

01:27:08.260 In Oregon, after this, fatal overdoses, you just alluded to it, surged 76% from 2011 to 21 with fentanyl driving the numbers.

01:27:18.640 Just between 2020 and 2021, fentanyl-related fatal overdoses rose 83%.

01:27:25.960 I mean, that is shocking.

01:27:27.860 What an F, a total failure.

01:27:30.700 Just to remind our audience, my guest is Jason Rantz, R-A-N-T-Z,

01:27:34.240 in the book is what's killing America inside the radical left's tragic destruction of our cities.

01:27:41.680 And you lay it all out.

01:27:42.840 The other thing you get into in, you know, we touched on it, but like the homelessness problem,

01:27:47.460 how they think the solution is housing.

01:27:51.140 Let's just get housing and everything will be better.

01:27:53.940 Yeah, it turns out that that's actually not how it works because they were not born homeless.

01:27:58.360 They had a home at one point and then they ended up on the streets.

01:28:01.040 And it's very similar in the way that harm reduction is being used.

01:28:03.880 There's another policy out there, a strategy called Housing First.

01:28:06.800 And again, I can ask anyone what it is.

01:28:08.620 No one would be able to define it.

01:28:09.900 And yet, that is why we have a crisis of homelessness in this country.

01:28:14.700 Housing First says we're going to put people without any conditions into subsidized housing.

01:28:19.980 And usually they're waiting for either now they do homeless hotels, but also just your standard studio apartment.

01:28:26.160 And that's been one of the reasons why we don't see a lot of sweeps in Democrat-run cities.

01:28:31.820 They don't want to sweep these homeless encampments, all these tents, until you have a home for them because apparently it lacks compassion to let people live surrounded by human waste and use needles and trash.

01:28:41.500 And so you would at least on paper say, okay, maybe that does work.

01:28:45.240 And we often hear people say, Salt Lake City did this and they got to functional zero homeless population.

01:28:52.440 Well, that's not true.

01:28:53.280 And I did the research.

01:28:54.220 I ended up committing an entire chapter just to Salt Lake and the Housing First myth because it was a total failure.

01:28:59.700 They did not look at the right numbers.

01:29:01.080 They, I think, intentionally misled the public as to the impact of their policy.

01:29:05.720 And it's gotten worse, homelessness, ever since.

01:29:08.280 But the biggest issue with Housing First is there's never any kind of mandate that the individual get treatment for whatever it is was the underlying cause of their homelessness.

01:29:19.180 So let's say it was drug addiction, which is leading a lot of it.

01:29:21.900 Well, you can just continue to use drugs while in the subsidized housing.

01:29:26.020 That doesn't help them.

01:29:27.660 It doesn't help them at all.

01:29:28.840 And, of course, they're not just staying in their home.

01:29:30.440 They're still going out into the community.

01:29:32.040 They're still committing crimes in order to pay for their drug of choice.

01:29:36.140 But the only people who end up benefiting are the ones who run these programs, the homeless industrial complex.

01:29:41.460 And it sounds kind of like conspiratorial when I put things in that phrasing.

01:29:44.700 But these are people who get paid to care for the homeless who never go on their own, who never get off the get onto their own path.

01:29:53.520 And so they're incentivized.

01:29:55.040 Whether or not they're doing this intentionally, I don't generally think that.

01:29:58.640 But it's got to be a subconscious bias there.

01:30:01.040 The longer they're in subsidized housing, the longer these people are employed, the more money they get.

01:30:06.620 And despite showing very few success stories, they keep getting larger budgets.

01:30:11.980 Because behind the scenes, they're cozying up to politicians at the local or state level.

01:30:16.020 And they're just getting more funds funneled into their programs.

01:30:19.380 And they say that now just getting someone indoors is success.

01:30:23.600 But I don't think the average person would argue that that's successful.

01:30:28.360 And so when folks are complaining about the homelessness crisis, understand a lot of this is being done in your name.

01:30:34.780 And you probably at one point just heard about it in passing, this housing first model.

01:30:39.320 And you didn't push back because you thought it made sense.

01:30:42.240 And that's why I wrote this book on all these topics.

01:30:45.260 Like here's how you decode the radical left and what they're doing to our cities.

01:30:50.380 Well, yes.

01:30:50.960 I mean, the aptly name What's Killing America by Jason Rantz lays it out.

01:30:55.740 And the homelessness, you have a great example of what they're doing in Austin, which actually is working.

01:31:00.140 It's a different approach, and people should read the book to find out the difference.

01:31:03.320 It makes a lot of sense.

01:31:04.640 Austin seems like a very sensible city.

01:31:06.740 It's blue, but it's in a red state.

01:31:09.180 And its blueness is tempered, I think, by the general approach of Texans.

01:31:14.280 But I want to jump back to the drug thing because the thing you said about what's happening on the metro,

01:31:18.520 where the 100% of the tests came back positive for meth, is very scary for anybody,

01:31:23.740 but especially somebody who goes on there with children.

01:31:25.980 And it reminds me of what happened in New York in the Bronx last week.

01:31:29.640 It was on the cover of the Post for a couple of days where a baby, a one-year-old baby boy, died.

01:31:36.980 He was put in this daycare center.

01:31:38.980 I think three other babies were almost killed, too.

01:31:42.700 They were taken to the hospital.

01:31:44.160 And so far, I believe all three have survived.

01:31:46.380 They were given Narcan to try to bring them back.

01:31:49.320 But it was because of fentanyl.

01:31:51.520 And it appears, according to the feds, at least, the woman running the daycare center,

01:31:55.560 which was in an apartment, and somebody who lived in an adjoining apartment were running a fentanyl lab.

01:32:01.240 She denies it.

01:32:01.900 She's like, oh, I had no idea.

01:32:03.600 But she waited to call the cops, according to the feds.

01:32:06.660 She called somebody else who came over before the 911 people came.

01:32:11.040 And this baby died because just inhaling the fentanyl, which had been in the room,

01:32:15.980 it wasn't like he actually took it or any of these babies took it.

01:32:18.280 Just inhaling it could be lethal or almost lethal.

01:32:22.220 Well, if you talk to some folks in the harm reduction camp, that's not true.

01:32:26.340 In fact, even the UW study, again, they're telling us that it's totally safe.

01:32:29.980 Now, there's a little bit of a difference, obviously, between secondhand fentanyl smoke

01:32:34.480 and fentanyl, the substance itself.

01:32:36.520 But I just wholly reject the idea that it's perfectly safe.

01:32:40.720 This from the same group of folks who tell us secondhand smoke kills.

01:32:44.340 And yet secondhand fentanyl or any kind of exposure to fentanyl, because I've been on

01:32:48.800 a bus where people have been openly smoking.

01:32:52.420 They pull out their little tinfoil.

01:32:54.380 They're very clearly smoking either fentanyl or meth.

01:32:56.580 And I've smelled it.

01:32:58.100 I should not know what fentanyl smells like.

01:33:00.940 And yet I know precisely what it smells like.

01:33:02.900 I've never actually used fentanyl, but I know what it smells like when it's being smoked.

01:33:07.640 I didn't know you could smoke fentanyl.

01:33:09.340 You can smoke almost anything at this point.

01:33:11.700 Fentanyl gets smoked as well.

01:33:13.040 It can be smoked, also meth.

01:33:15.360 But that's a good thing to know.

01:33:17.000 So you're a mother or father on a train or a bus, and you smell something.

01:33:21.800 You don't know what it is.

01:33:22.740 Get the hell off.

01:33:23.440 Get your kid away.

01:33:24.380 So what?

01:33:24.700 You have to wait for the next bus.

01:33:25.720 Get out of there.

01:33:26.640 Yeah, the problem is, though, is that that next bus might also have someone on there

01:33:30.920 who is smoking or using in some way.

01:33:34.180 That's the reality of certain routes in the Pacific Northwest.

01:33:38.420 I mean, same thing in Portland when you go on to their sort of light rail streetcar system.

01:33:42.640 You're running into the exact same issues.

01:33:45.200 And just to be told that any of our concerns are meritless is just insulting.

01:33:50.860 And if we don't push back, it's just going to get worse.

01:33:53.940 But the reason why they're doing this is, again, they don't want to stigmatize drug use.

01:33:56.740 But to your point, we're having kids die in this country.

01:34:01.500 These are avoidable deaths.

01:34:03.680 There are some accidents and deaths and crimes that are not avoidable.

01:34:07.120 They just happen.

01:34:08.240 But this is very clearly avoidable because they've created a culture of lawlessness as it relates

01:34:13.920 specifically to drug use.

01:34:16.040 And as a result, well, guess what?

01:34:17.580 Now it's getting in front of kids, and kids are becoming victimized.

01:34:21.260 And if that doesn't push people into action, I don't know what will.

01:34:23.560 You write a lot about the fentanyl crisis, and it is very scary about how they are lacing

01:34:29.700 these Mexican drug cartels.

01:34:31.100 They're lacing other pills with fentanyl, with a synthetic opioid, which is killing people.

01:34:36.960 I mean, Eric Bolling, my friend, has got a whole charity called One Pill Can Kill to

01:34:40.420 remind people about the death of his son, Eric Chase.

01:34:43.480 And that's what happened.

01:34:45.180 One pill did kill him.

01:34:47.100 When it comes from the wrong person, and you think it's a nothing, and maybe you think it's

01:34:50.700 just like a sedative or something that's going to take the edge off, and kids need to know

01:34:55.720 there's no such thing as a safe one pill that you get from a dealer or you get from somebody

01:35:00.060 other than a doctor.

01:35:01.920 It's very scary.

01:35:03.360 I appreciate the book because what's happening here needs attention.

01:35:07.600 You know, we're so obsessed with Ukraine.

01:35:09.220 We can do both.

01:35:09.840 We can do both.

01:35:10.240 We're not doing both.

01:35:11.620 America is being killed bit by bit by a lot of these problems that Jason outlines.

01:35:15.740 You can check it out in his book, What's Killing America?

01:35:18.540 Jason Renz, please come back.

01:35:20.140 I will.

01:35:20.420 Thank you so much.

01:35:21.040 I appreciate it.

01:35:22.200 Great to see you.

01:35:23.200 And I want to tell you all that we have some great guests coming up tomorrow.

01:35:26.060 The Fifth Column, guys.

01:35:27.360 Very much looking forward to that in advance of the next Republican debate.

01:35:30.380 And the GOP debate will bring on our all-star analysis the next day.

01:35:34.200 Glenn Greenwald, Eliana Johnson, Michael Duncan from Ruthless, and then Scott Adams joins

01:35:39.200 us for the first time on Friday.

01:35:40.520 See you tomorrow.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - September 26, 2023

Rapinoe's Final Middle Finger, Radical Trans Ideology, and Failures of Progressive Policies, with Carrie Prejean and Jason Rantz ｜ Ep. 635

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