Reckoning with Horror of Charlotte Stabbing, and Kamala's Complaints, with Megan Basham, Heather Mac Donald, Allie Beth Stuckey, and Mike Solana | Ep 1145
23-year-old Irena Zarutska was an immigrant from Ukraine who came to the United States from Ukraine looking for a better life. She was stabbed to death in her own home, and no one has been charged in connection with her death.
00:10:00.260It's a painfully long time when you watch the video.
00:10:03.240You do not understand why they are not helping her.
00:10:06.540The only thing I can hope for is that they were confused and they didn't realize what had happened.
00:10:12.720But soon the blood begins pouring out of this poor girl, and it's really hard to understand how there's not a mass reaction on board that train.
00:10:23.020I'm going to show you that piece of the video right here so you understand how long she was lying on the floor alone.
00:11:48.160Here comes the man in the green shirt.
00:11:51.640And I want to tell the audience in that video we just showed, I didn't notice it the first time I watched the video because I was looking at the bystanders wondering why they weren't doing anything.
00:12:00.900And then I watched it a second time and the most disturbing part of the video is she's gone down, you know she's down, and there's the half wall that's dividing the front of her seat from the area where people disembark from the train.
00:12:18.380Like the small little half wall, she had her feet up on it after she was attacked, and she's down, her head is down on the floor now, and you see blood, very bright red blood start to come out underneath that half wall.
00:12:36.880And by the end, it is absolutely spurting.
00:12:44.080That's the damage that man inflicted in those three seconds.
00:12:46.800It is very clear that she needed assistance.
00:12:52.160It was not until that last man we saw at the end of the video, an unidentified man still in a green shirt, rushes over and bends down to begin helping her.
00:13:02.140For what it's worth, because this does have racial elements, this is a person of color, have no idea what his heritage is, whether he's black, Hispanic, Indian, I don't know.
00:15:42.040You don't hear about it because the media won't discuss it for all sorts of reasons.
00:15:46.500Do you have any doubt that this story would be getting shoved down your throat?
00:15:51.820Just imagine, just imagine if that perpetrator had been a white 22-year-old male killing a cowering black young woman on her way home from her pizzeria job.
00:16:05.320This story would be leading the news everywhere.
00:16:10.420We would be having riots in the street.
00:16:24.560How everybody in the country knows the name of this Kilmar Obrego Garcia, this, you know, Maryland man who's been a wife abuser, a trafficker of illegals.
00:16:36.140The list of accusations against him is long, very long, including from his own wife.
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00:19:05.580Heather, let me start with you as, you know, in a way, the mother of us all on this.
00:19:11.360I mean, I'm sure everybody looking at you has been influenced by you and your writings and your expertise on this subject.
00:19:15.740And you are somebody who has told the truth from the beginning, been called every name in the book, only to be proven right time and time again.
00:19:24.780And so when you hear Van Jones and others like him look at this situation with that absurd recitation about hurt people, what's your thought?
00:19:40.900And the elites have been perpetrating a complete lie, which is that white people are the biggest threat facing black people today, that the criminal justice system is racist, that we live in a white supremacist society.
00:19:57.720That lie has given them enormous power, and the lie is what gave us the unbelievably heart-wrenching death of Ms. Zarutska, because based on the lie of criminal justice system racism, we have been decriminalizing, we have been deprosecuting long before George Floyd.
00:20:21.200But after the George Floyd race riots, it became an absolute mania, and we are refusing to inflict just punishment because doing so will have a disparate impact on black criminals.
00:20:37.020And the Roy Coopers of the world, who you mentioned, that introduced racial equity considerations into North Carolina and Charlotte, that we're incarcerating too many black and Hispanic criminals, they are the embodiment of that lie.
00:20:55.840And let's just look again at the statistics, Megan.
00:20:58.740And it cannot be further from the truth.
00:21:03.160President Biden, President Obama used to go around saying that black parents were right to fear that their children would be killed every time they stepped outside implicitly by either a police officer or a white person.
00:21:16.180No, the reality of interracial crime is exactly the opposite.
00:21:20.140It is what we have seen in this video.
00:21:22.680This video is a synecdoche for the reality of America.
00:21:26.720In 2023, the National Academy of Sciences, a liberal left elite institution, published a report authored by, among others, Bruce Western, who is a leftist at Columbia University, that said that the amount of white on black homicides in the United States was so negligible to not really even be measurable statistically,
00:21:50.660whereas blacks are 35 times more likely to commit an act of violence against whites than whites against blacks.
00:21:59.960Nevertheless, we have been told by the New York Times, by CNN, that it is blacks who were victimized by our system that has given the elites power to overturn every Western standard of excellence,
00:22:16.260of merit, of behavior, of criminal justice.
00:22:40.980We don't know why that man did what he did.
00:22:44.760And for Charlie Kirk to say we know he did it because she's white when there's no evidence of that is just pure race, race, mongering, hate mongering.
00:23:29.200This is a prime example of that toxic empathy.
00:23:32.100Empathy turns toxic when it encourages you to do at least two things, and that is validate lies and support destructive policies.
00:23:40.740And it encourages you to ignore the true victim in every situation and instead victimize the criminal or the perpetrator of wrong.
00:23:49.420And this false narrative that we've heard for many decades, but of course accelerated over the past five years, that we have this basic binary dichotomy in the United States of black oppressed and white oppressor.
00:24:02.920And that everything, every situation, every news story has to be examined through that lens, has supported policies that have led to deaths like this one.
00:24:13.640Even in the Christian world, in the evangelical world, we certainly saw in 2020 and still see today.
00:24:19.520One message toward the white congregants, which is one of collective guilt, a collective need for repentance of the sins of America and the sins of our white ancestors, and a complete abdication of responsibility toward their more melanated congregants, a sermon of apology toward them, and a message of guilt toward white privilege or guilt about systemic racism toward their white congregants.
00:24:47.840And that message, especially over the past half decade, has breathed life into the kinds of policies that have led to unjust murders like this one.
00:25:00.160And so, yes, of course, it is a huge political issue.
00:25:05.520But we've got spiritual and theological problems in the United States that is leading to this kind of bloodshed.
00:25:13.000It's got to change on every single level.
00:25:16.140Well, yes, Megan, I know you've been talking about this, too, over at Daily Wire.
00:25:21.640And I have to tell you, you know, I talked about this openly.
00:25:24.560I'm Catholic and going through the process of getting an annulment on my first marriage.
00:25:30.240And my ex-husband and I are friends and he's on board.
00:25:33.300But in the process, I had a bit of a crisis of faith because it just sort of dawned on me, as my evangelical friends would already argue, why do I have to go through the middleman?
00:25:41.420Like, what is the point of like getting this middleman to like bless the dissolution of this?
00:25:46.500And I had a moment of like searching for other churches within the Christian faith, like I might consider this one, I might consider that one.
00:25:53.320And I'm telling you, like literally every church I went to just to try them out had a pride flag on the outside of it and a BLM flag, a pride flag and BLM.
00:26:03.060And it was unbelievable how the Christian community has bent the knee to this lie, to these lies about policing in America and what our obligations are as people of faith on this whole narrative.
00:26:20.640Yeah, and I'm really glad that you bring that up, that Ali brings that up, because it's an important point to know that I don't believe that these policies, which have been floated by the left for many, many years, they've been promoted, they've been pushed.
00:26:32.300But they were allowed to take hold in the wake of George Floyd, because you had people who were known as Christian conservatives, for example, using their platforms to push what was a false narrative, which was that George Floyd died because of racism in the policing system.
00:26:47.700We now know that there was not a shred of evidence that race played any role in his death.
00:26:51.520And so these were the people who were able to give that movement a moral imperative it didn't have when it was just Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton talking about it.
00:27:01.940And, you know, one of the things I want to emphasize for people as a Charlotte native is that this was a safe area of town.
00:27:08.600It's a very trendy, trendy restaurants, trendy shops and boutiques.
00:27:13.120We go there frequently on the weekend.
00:27:14.980So you can't escape the impact of these policies, if that's what you're thinking.
00:27:19.660This was not a dangerous part of town.
00:27:21.740And the other thing I want to emphasize is that Governor Roy Cooper and our then Attorney General, now Governor Josh Stein, responded to the death of George Floyd in another state more quickly than they responded to the death of Irina Zarutska, who was a resident of their own state, who they are responsible for.
00:27:41.620So within two weeks, Governor Roy Cooper had called for a racial equity task force to overhaul our criminal justice system here in North Carolina.
00:27:51.300And the things that it put in place were things like pre-trial release, cashless bail, decriminalizing homelessness and, quote, unquote, public behavior.
00:28:00.760So being a public menace on the streets, the very kinds of things that DeCarlos Brown was arrested for.
00:28:06.940So when that was going on and you have, let's be clear, this is the Bible Belt.
00:28:15.020So when you have that going on and then you have the president of the Southern Baptist Convention, which is the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., represents some 14 million Americans.
00:28:25.580Get up into the pulpit, get up onto platforms represented by the Southern Baptist Convention and release public letters saying, you are a bad Christian.
00:28:34.860You are not a loving Christian if you don't support this overhaul of our criminal justice system in the name of racial equity.
00:28:42.740Well, you have a lot of people in the pews who are looking at them going, well, these are conservative Christians like me.
00:28:48.080And they say, I'm not loving my neighbor if I don't embrace these policies.
00:28:51.440So that's what I believe was really the difference with George Floyd, why these policies that were being pushed for a long time were suddenly allowed to take effect even by people who would consider themselves conservatives.
00:29:03.340Because who wants to be called a bad Christian?
00:29:05.680Who wants to say they don't love their black neighbor?
00:29:08.000So that was really a tipping point, I think.
00:29:10.180And the appalling thing to me is that you had so many of those faith leaders participating in that lie, and that it cost people in their own backyard, and they've largely been silent about it now.
00:29:22.140Yeah, all I can think about is Barry Weiss came on this show very early in its life.
00:29:27.280And we talked a bit, this is well before 10-7, and we talked a little bit about anti-Semitism and how people get away with it.
00:29:36.760Like, it's not really, no one seems to really mind it much in many corners.
00:29:41.160And she said to me, it's because Jews don't count.
00:30:30.580I mean, we could spend all day outlining the stories that just really aren't of interest because we're the wrong color, and our hair is the wrong color, and a privilege is assumed, and therefore we're not oppressed.
00:30:41.860So, too fucking bad if you get murdered.
00:30:44.300I mean, truly, that's how callous our ruling class has become, Heather.
00:30:49.380Well, and this goes beyond, I mean, there's nothing worse than justifying, in a sense, or diminishing violent crime.
00:30:59.480But the hatred of whites goes far beyond that, Megan, and the consequences for our society go far beyond this.
00:31:07.220Whites are the last to be admitted to medical school with superb qualifications.
00:31:12.420They're the last to be admitted to law schools.
00:31:15.360They're the last to be considered for medical deanships at this point.
00:31:20.340We are tearing down every standard of excellence because it has a disparate impact on blacks, not because those standards are racist.
00:32:30.020They're so great with regards to discrimination in the private sector.
00:32:34.440They're so great with regards to discrimination in the criminal justice system.
00:32:39.060And as both Megan and Allie said and you, these lies have consequences.
00:32:46.260The reason that Brown was still on the streets was because of the Black Lives Matter narrative,
00:32:51.880because we have decided we're simply not going to enforce the criminal law because doing so will have a disparate impact on black criminals.
00:32:59.060That's the only reason if there was no disparity in criminal offending, if blacks were incarcerated, if they were arrested, if they were stopped at the same rate of whites.
00:33:11.920And the reason they're stopped at higher rates, again, is not police racism.
00:34:50.740We went through a period, Ali Beth, where, where we all knew that the black on white crime was worse than the white on black crime, which is really amazing when you consider the population rate, right?
00:34:59.780That black people are 13% of the population.
00:35:02.380Black men are, call it half, six and a half percent of the population.
00:35:05.720And even smaller, if you look at the age, you know, like, let's say teenagers through 55, you know, the probably the average age of those who would commit crimes, it's going to be more like two to 3%.
00:35:16.740So that's the population committing the vast majority of crime, violent crime, period.
00:35:22.000And those people committing crime against whites is a much, much higher number than than whites committing any crime against blacks.
00:35:29.280So we went through years where we just didn't talk about that.
00:35:32.340Polite society wouldn't raise that fact.
00:35:34.160It was an inconvenient, uncomfortable fact.
00:35:36.300You were a racist if you wanted to mention that.
00:36:20.960They still they're capitalizing black when they write about the races in this particular instance, as is the new AP style book recommendation.
00:37:09.160That's what we've seen over the past five years.
00:37:11.460I had a very well-meaning pastor reach out to me just this morning who genuinely wanted to know.
00:37:16.440This is a normal person not plugged into day-to-day politics like we are who said,
00:37:20.780Ali, you know, I value your insight and I'm trying to understand why people are making this political.
00:37:25.300And I just responded because politics has something to do with it because the politics of this city, of this state,
00:37:32.180affected the policies that then enabled this person to be out on the street and murder this young woman.
00:37:37.400And something about mental health, since we were just talking about that.
00:37:41.000First of all, like I don't care about your mental health diagnosis.
00:37:44.600If you are violent, whether you're schizophrenic, depressed, I want you to be put away so that you don't have to affect the rest of society.
00:37:51.520Your mental health diagnosis, while unfortunate, is not a justification for your symptoms to be unleashed on everyone else.
00:37:58.740Number two, this person was mentally well enough to target the most vulnerable person on that train.
00:38:05.700If he was so out of it, he might have targeted someone bigger than him, someone stronger than him,
00:38:10.400because he wasn't capable of understanding whether or not that person could defend themselves.
00:38:14.280Instead, he targeted this frail, small, vulnerable girl, cheap shot from behind.
00:38:21.180She couldn't even see herself to move out of the way and then was with it enough afterward to walk out and say,
00:39:37.520I pay tax dollars to try to get people like this into facilities where they can't hurt me or my children.
00:39:43.080Why aren't my tax dollars being used this way?
00:39:45.620Instead, Megan, what we've seen with these judges down there, you mentioned the governor and his predecessor, both of whom were woke Democrats who implemented soft on crime policing policies.
00:39:54.980The mayor, she's a nightmare, vile, that's what I call her.
00:40:01.360Her reaction, I read this the other day, but just as a reminder, she comes out to say, I don't know the specifics of this man's medical record, but he's long struggled with his mental health, appears to have suffered a crisis.
00:40:13.520This is the unfortunate and tragic outcome.
00:40:15.860Tragic incidents like these should force us to look at what we are doing across our community to address root causes.
00:40:20.360We will never arrest our way out of issues such as homelessness and mental health.
00:40:26.400And then goes on to say, I want to be clear, I'm not villainizing those who struggle with their mental health.
00:40:31.400Then there's the magistrate judge who's got another job as the director of operations at Second Chance Services, a mental health and addiction clinic in Charlotte, North Carolina.
00:40:43.200Gee, I wonder what her political bent would be when someone like this guy, Brown, comes before her.
00:40:48.340However, she graduated from the worst law school in the country, Cooley Law School, so she has a JD.
00:40:53.900It also has the lowest bar passage rate of any accredited law school in the country.
00:40:57.560We don't believe she has her actual bar card.
00:41:00.380So she's a magistrate judge who can't practice law from the look of it.
00:41:03.760And by the way, that's also legal in North Carolina.
00:41:06.100She's making decisions on your safety as a Charlotte resident.
00:41:09.060And then it goes up to Roy Wiggins, who made the decision, this district judge in July on whether this guy should remain in custody pending his mental health evaluation and said, no, he doesn't need to go ahead.
00:41:31.020And, you know, when you look at that Vi Lyle statement, the thing that was most appalling about it is in her initial statement, she did not acknowledge Irina Zarutska at all, did not name the victim, didn't even refer to the victim.
00:41:42.700She only referred to the perpetrator as a victim.
00:41:45.640And so that, I think, was what was just so eye-opening to so many of us to hear that.
00:41:50.620And then you look at the kind of money coming in to change these policies.
00:41:54.280You know, something I posted on X that ended up going kind of viral was the fact that the MacArthur Foundation, a $7 billion mega foundation, has funneled over $3 million into Mecklenburg County, which houses Charlotte, in order to promote this racial equity overhaul of our criminal justice system.
00:42:11.880So, you know, the same kind of policies that you saw coming out of the racial equity task force were also being promoted by the MacArthur Foundation.
00:42:18.140So they're getting paid a lot of money to supposedly give these second chances.
00:42:22.800But let's be clear, it wasn't a second chance.
00:42:25.460This man had been arrested at least 14 times before, including for armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon, assaulting his own sister.
00:42:34.360This is not somebody who should have been on the streets, as even his own mother acknowledged.
00:43:03.360And I think that is what is waking so many people up, is that it wasn't an accident that this happened.
00:43:08.320They have deliberately enacted these policies to ensure that someone like that is on the streets.
00:43:14.480And to be clear, just to be clear on what happened, because we used to institutionalize people in this country.
00:43:19.560We did used to do it to keep the rest of us safe.
00:43:22.100And then we decided we weren't going to do that anymore.
00:43:24.280Some 50 years ago, we were going to start opening up the doors to the institutions and letting people out because of civil liberties.
00:43:30.620We had a couple of bad Supreme Court decisions saying, yeah, you know, I have to be really super protective of these people's civil liberties.
00:43:42.860So normal states and cities started locking them up in the prisons because nine times out of ten, the truly deranged would wind up committing crimes.
00:43:50.780So they wound up going into the prisons and the prisons wound up housing some 30 percent of their populations who were nutcases, too.
00:43:58.680But at least they were behind bars and they would be getting some sort of mental health services in prison.
00:44:20.260And we started not only opening up the prisons, but not even prosecuting these people to begin with.
00:44:24.440That's why, Heather, this is a direct result of policy choices that have been made by politicians.
00:44:30.320Well, politicians have now decided that their primary commitment is to the antisocial and the dysfunctional.
00:44:38.240The the hatred against whites that you mentioned, Megan, that results in whiteness studies in the Smithsonian talking about the awful white traits of punctuality and rationality and family.
00:44:56.380It's the hatred of the bourgeois, of the normal, of the law abiding.
00:44:59.820And instead, government, I call this the great inversion, has decided that its obligation is to protect the criminal, the vagrant against the alleged threat from the bourgeois.
00:45:12.660And and that treats taxpayers as ATMs merely for their feckless social uplift projects.
00:45:20.240And so we have the rights of the mentally ill vagrants who've decided and drug abusers who decided they want a street lifestyle because it's the easiest way to keep getting their drug habit fed.
00:45:34.160We cater to them with these outreach teams that bring them pizza and blankets and tents.
00:45:40.600And we ask taxpayers to simply put up with it.
00:45:44.860These are situations in our cities that would have been unthinkable 60, 70 years ago, 100 years ago, when government understood that its primary obligation was not to the antisocial,
00:45:58.700to protect the antisocial or black people against dangerous whites and dangerous bodega owners and dangerous entrepreneurs that are just trying to create a functioning business to help Americans have more choice in their how they live their lives.
00:46:18.480Now, it used to be that's our obligation is to the functional.
00:46:22.620Now, the only obligation is to people like Brown, to people like Michael Brown.
00:46:32.300We learned today amazingly that the main liar, Dorian Johnson, who perpetrated one of the most incendiary lies of the Black Lives Matter movement,
00:46:42.660the hands up, don't shoot lie that even the Obama Justice Department couldn't give credence to and finally said this whole thing is bogus.
00:46:49.480He was shot fatally, very close to where the Michael Brown incident in Ferguson, Missouri, happened in 2014.
00:46:57.620Those are the people that we are venerating.
00:47:03.240You know, all of our civil rights heroes today are dysfunctional black criminals.
00:47:09.200That's how you become a civil rights hero.
00:47:11.160You get yourself shot by the police because you've been resisting arrest or running or trying to grab the officer's gun, as Michael Brown was.
00:47:21.040And we're so desperate to villainize whites and to to sanctify blacks because we're so terrified about that inner city dysfunction that those are the people who now we have shrines to.
00:47:35.920Minneapolis has shrines aplenty to George Floyd because government is unwilling to say, no, we are going to fulfill our obligations, which is to provide, protect rights, property, life and liberty of people who obey the law.
00:47:57.240We are definitely getting back to the story of Dorian Johnson and Michael Brown, the fact that he's died and what the media is now saying about him, in particular, CNN and NBC.
00:48:08.760We are rounding back to that in just a minute.
00:48:25.540The title of it is Outsourcing Justice, How Donors and Consultants Steer America's Prosecutors.
00:48:31.460And it kicks off with a story about the Wren, W-R-E-N Collective LLC, a private consulting firm that is, quote, already embedded in several prosecutor's office across the country and looking to expand.
00:48:43.720In particular, it's founded by this former public defender activist, Jessica Brand.
00:48:49.580And they get in there and say, for free, we'll teach you how to do all of the woke BLS stuff.
00:48:55.920And they're well-funded by activists with an agenda.
00:48:59.160So this is like where we actually have identified political enemies that we have to defeat.
00:49:09.260And look, that's part of the problem is that you have millions and millions of dollars pouring in from Soros' Open Society Foundation, from the MacArthur Foundation.
00:49:16.960And they're promoting all of these policies.
00:49:19.160And you have municipalities that are happy to take those millions of dollars to implement these programs.
00:49:23.800And look, I spent the last couple of days sitting and watching some of this anti-racism training that they put our, I mean, literally our entire court system and policing system through.
00:49:36.080It became a mandatory thing that you had to go through this anti-racism training as a part of that racial equity task force that was unveiled right after the death of George Floyd.
00:49:45.460And it is teaching them that if your impulse is to jail someone who is a minority because of a crime they've committed, well, then you may have an implicit bias.
00:49:54.220And that is what you, as a law enforcement officer or as a member of the court, that's what's pushing you to do that.
00:50:01.400And really quick, I just want to cite a statistic, which is the fact that if you put white people on a jury, they are much less likely to convict a black defendant than they are another white defendant.
00:50:32.220When we come back, I have to take a quick break.
00:50:33.980I'm going to play you the soundbite from CNN from just last night as they had on a woman, Caroline Downey, from NNR, National Review, who tried to raise the issue of this guy was not safe to be on the streets.
00:50:45.740And we'll show you the meltdown that ensued.
00:50:47.900And we will round back to the Michael Brown narrative still being lied about, still by the same media that has caused these problems we've spent the last hour discussing.
00:53:03.140And Allie Beth Stuckey is host of the Relatable podcast and author of another great read, Toxic Empathy, which we talked about when it was published.
00:53:11.960I just want to start with this because I want to get it in.
00:53:14.060And Trump did issue a statement yesterday from the Oval Office.
00:53:23.160In Charlotte, North Carolina, we saw the results of these policies when a 23-year-old woman who came here from Ukraine met her bloody end on a public train.
00:53:56.300We cannot allow a depraved criminal element of violent repeat offenders to continue spreading destruction and death throughout our country.
00:54:05.180We have to respond with force and strength.
00:54:08.060We have to be vicious just like they are.
00:57:12.380During the 911 incident, officers said he bizarrely claimed a man-made material was inside his body and was controlling him as he ate, walked, and talked, according to an affidavit cited by the outlet.
00:57:25.320But that affidavit read as follows, quote, Brown wanted officers to investigate this man-made material that was inside of his body.
00:57:33.940Obviously, the guy is a nutcase, but he's not just any random nutcase.
00:57:39.020He had this very long—I mean, we've confirmed 14 arrests, but there are reports that it was more than that, that it was up to 29 times he'd been arrested in and out of the system.
00:57:50.080And we know for that particular instance, he was arrested.
00:57:53.980He was in front of the justice system in January, in front of that ridiculous magistrate judge, and then again in July, a month before this happened, in front of Judge Roy Wiggins, both of whom sent him back out on his way.
00:58:07.300So last night, the subject of his schizophrenia came up on CNN, and Caroline Downey, who's with National Review, tried to make a point about it.
00:58:24.600No, I know, but I'm saying that that was compounding this entire issue, the fact that he lashed out violently on that crime.
00:58:30.520I know, I'm just saying, he did actually serve time for the violent offenses that he committed.
00:58:35.640Yes, but he was a career criminal, a repeat offender who was let back onto our streets, despite a really bad criminal record that suggests he should have been locked away for life because he was threatening the public.
00:59:07.340Yes, and if you're saying he should not, you're saying that young women like you and me are basically just—we are lambs into the slaughter.
00:59:15.000You go on public transportation in this city, that could happen to any single one of us.
00:59:32.100What he needed, he needed talk therapy.
00:59:34.340That's really—that's what DeCarlos Brown Jr. needed.
00:59:36.800If people like this who are surrounding Caroline are anywhere close to power, we will continue to have situations like this on a consistent basis.
00:59:48.600Sure, he does seem like a nutcase, but also at the same time, I just want to say evil people say evil things.
00:59:53.920People who are violent are also liars.
00:59:55.660Yeah, he's probably crazy, but he could just also be making excuses for the fact that he's a bad person who does bad things, and he doesn't want to take responsibility for that.
01:00:04.260That is like the pattern of a lot of criminals.
01:00:06.600But also, I want to say something about our mental health system.
01:00:10.260What we have realized, especially since COVID, a lot has happened over the past five years and revelations about many different things, is that our mental health system, in general, is actually exacerbating the problem of instability and violence, not reducing the violence that is caused by people who may have these mental health diagnoses.
01:00:30.760Because so many of the pharmaceuticals actually have on their label as potential side effects, psychosis, violence against others, violence against yourself, deepening these episodes of depression and anxiety and paranoia.
01:00:45.260I don't know what pharmaceuticals this guy was on, if he was on any, but for anyone to say, well, he just needs treatment, he just needs more psychology, he just needs more psychiatry.
01:01:03.320For this kind of manifestation of this kind of mental illness, yes, locked away for life, because they are all saying exactly what Caroline said they are saying, which is that you, young woman, you, white woman, you are worth the sacrifice.
01:01:19.060We are going to put you on the altar of social justice, of racial equity, and you are going to like it.
01:03:04.920We know at least three times in 2024, so just last year, he had encounters with the police where they didn't arrest him.
01:03:13.060They referred him to, quote unquote, resources.
01:03:15.580So we know that they were supposedly trying to refer him to the kinds of mental health help that all of these people are saying, well, that's what he should have been given.
01:03:24.460Well, the community policing forces that he encountered did try to do that, and he wasn't forced to accept it, and so he didn't.
01:03:32.480So he continued to be a menace on our public streets.
01:03:34.520And that is the point of why that absolutely, yes, this is political, because those were the policies that allowed him to be on that train so that he could stab Irina Zarutska in the neck.
01:03:44.900So to try to separate this from politics, in fact, to try to separate it from identity politics is impossible, because it was the identity politics that played a role in why he was out there being a menace to society.
01:03:57.820So, you know, when I look at this, I go, one, they're not being dishonest about this man, or they're not being honest about this man's background, but they're also then not being honest about the role that identity politics and the social justice movement in the wake of George Floyd played in his being out there and being available to commit this crime.
01:04:17.020Just a follow-up, too, on the problems with the North Carolina judges involved in all of this.
01:04:23.260This, I mentioned the one judge, Teresa Stokes, and what she did, and then the other judge, Roy Wiggins, and what he did, but Jesse Waters actually did a good piece on Fox last night on who appointed Teresa Stokes as magistrate judge from the lowest-rated law school in the country, who's not even a practicing lawyer, who doesn't appear to have her bar card.
01:04:44.980It was someone named Alyssa Chin Gary, who's the clerk of the Superior Court.
01:04:50.140Stokes was nominated by the clerk, and then Stokes was appointed by Judge Carla Archie.
01:04:57.840Chin Gary, the one who nominated her, her bio on the Mecklenburg Bar Association says she's the family court administrator and a leader in building and strengthening race matters for juvenile justice.
01:05:10.140Under Chin Gary's leadership, Race Matters for Juvenile Justice partnered with all these other groups to train more than 200 leaders in a series of workshops entitled Dismantling Racism.
01:05:21.740Those are the qualifications she wanted us to know she had in order to select future magistrate court judges who would be making assessments on bail and whether somebody like Brown would have to stay in the system.
01:05:32.080Her LinkedIn says that she's a judge of superior court and probate, racial equity organizer, diversity and inclusion consultant.
01:05:42.640She then wrote, in 2014, I was named the Julius L. Chambers diversity champion, conferred by the Mecklenburg County Bar to celebrate persons in our community who advanced the cause of diversity and equal opportunity.
01:05:54.860This is giving me total L.A. Fire Chief vibes, right? Black and a lesbian. I'm black and I'm a lesbian. Can you fight fire? Who cares? See points one and two.
01:06:08.220Who gives a crap about all these like diversity equity initiatives she's involved in? Do you have any qualifications to pick magistrate judges?
01:06:16.500And in North Carolina, they said, yes, those are the qualifications. She's right on. She's assessed our interests perfectly.
01:06:23.480The mayor, who you mentioned before, who I call vile. This is a picture of the mayor at the George Floyd funeral. Here she is on her knees.
01:06:31.400George Floyd. She's deeply upset about George Floyd and his passing. We'll show you the picture.
01:06:36.100But that's that's who she's working for effectively. Distraught. Distraught. This is Mayor Vi after George Floyd.
01:06:43.640OK, going on. Judge Carla Archie, the one who actually made the appointment of the magistrate, Judge Teresa Stokes.
01:06:49.720Uh, 2019 Diversity Champion Award winner. She posted this photo in 2020 on her LinkedIn wearing her mask.
01:06:57.700It reads vaxxed with a good dose of holiday cheer. And, uh, on it goes from there.
01:07:03.460So the whole system, Megan, was set up. It was set up to see a guy like DeCarlos Brown and send him right out the revolving door so that Whoopi Goldberg could then say, well, this isn't political.
01:07:18.800It's just about how we treat the unwell, knowing full well that we don't lock them up in this country anymore.
01:07:26.440We haven't for decades. So unless they are incarcerated in an actual prison or we revamp our mental health asylum situation, he's going to be free on the streets to kill more.
01:07:36.300Yeah. And again, when I look at that picture of Vi Lyles, I just go to the fact that they all had her, Josh Stein, Roy Cooper, all had something to say much more quickly about George Floyd in another state than they did about someone who was a resident of their own state in North Carolina who they were responsible for.
01:07:56.300It's just appalling. And I'm going to be honest at this point, when I hear those resumes, when I hear I, you know, I'm an expert in anti-racism training or this was the, you know, diversity, equity, inclusion bona fides that I have at that point, that's actually a disqualification for me.
01:08:11.560If I see that on your resume, I don't want you hired for the job.
01:08:14.800Mm hmm. Here, Ali Beth, here is U.S. Attorney Russ Ferguson on whether the federal charges are political grandstanding because the feds have now stepped in.
01:08:22.740I don't see how you would see this case as political grandstanding.
01:08:27.360And if you do, I think you should have the conversation that we just had with Arena's family because there's nothing political about that.
01:08:34.540This is a heinous crime and we are going to remedy it.
01:08:38.540I don't know what the politics is here.
01:08:40.140If this was a political grandstand, there would be an opposite side to this.
01:08:43.520Is the opposite side, let's allow murders on our light rail?
01:08:46.560Is the opposite side, let's let people out of state prison so they can commit other crimes?
01:08:50.980There's no other side of this. There's no politics to this.
01:08:53.220This is a pure and simple federal case.
01:08:59.600Yes. Now, I will say there are politics involved with this because that is the other side.
01:09:04.420I mean, that is what the other side thinks, that, yes, we should allow murders because if people are mentally unwell, well, there's nothing that we can do.
01:09:11.840We just heard that on CNN. And that is what the policies actually produce.
01:09:16.800Now, of course, I know what he's saying. He's saying that he's not politically motivated by going after this guy.
01:09:22.040And, of course, that's good. That's true. This is about justice.
01:09:25.320And he's right. People who are saying this is political grandstanding, I mean, what are they trying to imply there?
01:09:31.840The unfortunate reality, though, is even while he's speaking in hyperbole, that is an accurate description of what progressives effectively believe when it comes to crime.
01:09:41.420That it's OK that she died as long as we are still accomplishing some superficial definition of racial equity.
01:09:50.980Yeah, absolutely. And the failure, right, that we've shown commentary from just last night on CNN.
01:09:57.100We've shown commentary from ABC and The View just this morning.
01:10:00.980Like they're doing their same old tricks over and over again.
01:10:03.560This hasn't moved them at all. They must be moved by us.
01:10:06.640Heather, it didn't start around Michael Brown, but it went into full flower back when he died in the 2014 race riots that destroyed Ferguson, Missouri.
01:10:18.140And this was like this is a pivotal moment in me for me in my own career.
01:10:22.200I remember it so well because I had just taken over a year earlier at the Kelly file in the primetime or I was about to.
01:10:28.240I'm trying to get my exact facts right.
01:10:31.380And it was a massive story and it dominated our news for days and days and days.
01:10:36.880And we couldn't believe what CNN was doing.
01:10:39.240Like we were watching the actual evidence unfold and CNN was lying every day on their air based on the word of this guy who just died, who you made a reference to, Dorian Johnson.
01:10:50.400And Dorian Johnson, just as a background for the people who are getting up to speed, he was friends with Michael Brown.
01:11:32.800They didn't wait for the story to came out.
01:11:34.320They went with the word of Michael Brown's friend, Johnson, Dorian Johnson, who said that Michael Brown was surrendering with his hands up, saying hands up.
01:13:54.240And these media outlets cannot let go of the narrative, Heather.
01:13:58.460Well, we've had a series of individual lies like the hands up, don't shoot lie that are all part of the major lie with which Americans have been living for the last 20 years.
01:14:25.220There is no there is no expertise there because they're and they're fighting no problem.
01:14:31.340We do not have a problem of white racism.
01:14:33.280But the race grift has been extraordinarily lucrative.
01:14:37.960It's given virtue points to the white establishment that perpetuates this complete fabrication that we live in a white supremacist society, that blacks are under threat from whites, not vice versa.
01:14:52.420Sorry, the statistics show it's vice versa.
01:14:55.780Again, 35 times more likely blacks are to commit a violent crime against whites than the opposite.
01:15:01.500Blacks commit about 80 percent of all interracial violent crime in this country between whites and blacks and whites and blacks and whites.
01:15:11.100Since the lie ends now, and you spoke, Megan, about the unbelievable providential nature of having Trump in office now, the left is terrified because they've been fighting back hysterically against Trump's long overdue call to pay attention to violent crime in America's cities.
01:17:32.120By the way, Rafael Manguel of City Journal has been saying, and one of the first things we need to do is restore mandatory minimum sentences.
01:20:20.460The U.S. attorney, Russ Ferguson, who we played earlier, has been in touch with Irina's family, that poor family, thinking she's one of the lucky ones.
01:20:32.280She goes to the United States and the heartland, you know, not like some crazy, like scary city like New York or Chicago, but Charlotte, which is beautiful and they're thinking safe.
01:20:46.040And he had the following to say about their wishes for her.
01:22:11.560Burna is proudly American, hand-assembled in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
01:22:15.120These are less lethal self-defense launchers.
01:22:18.520And they're trusted by hundreds of government agencies, law enforcement departments, and private security companies.
01:22:24.300Over 600,000 Burna pistols have been sold, most to private citizens who refuse to be victims.
01:22:30.160Burna launchers fire rock-hard kinetic rounds and also powerful tear gas and pepper projectiles, capable of stopping a threat from up to 60 feet away.
01:22:40.980So they've got one sort of launcher that hurts people but doesn't kill them, and one that, like, incapacitates them with the gases.
01:22:47.500There are no background checks required for this, no waiting periods, and Burna can ship straight to your door.
01:27:12.060The Starbucks turnaround that has baristas and customers steamed.
01:27:16.100This murder did not rank above those stories.
01:27:19.700Washington Post, they didn't even bother.
01:27:21.680I was at 6 p.m. last night, did not have the story posted at all on their homepage, but they did have an op-ed from Leanna Nguyen, how states can protect vaccines from RFK Jr.
01:27:32.540Oliver North weds his secretary, why climate change could ramp up our sugar intake, should you drink whole milk or low fat, suspected wedding crashers arrested in $60,000 heist.
01:27:44.740Paula Deen isn't here to convince you she's not a racist.
01:27:52.500Yeah, I mean, I was following this story a little bit.
01:27:55.960Well, I guess quite a lot over the last couple of days.
01:27:59.780And the main thing, I think the big the big shift in it was Axios reporting for the first time.
01:28:04.820And of course, the immediate reporting is like not about the heinous murder on the train, but about, you know, the fact that people are upset about it.
01:28:14.900And it was it was a Republicans pouncing kind of story.
01:29:09.180But on the other hand, they do sound like pricks.
01:29:12.760And I'm persuaded that they're bad people.
01:29:15.180I've read this excerpt, so you don't have to, because I do find it interesting just as a window into her and also a window into Team Biden.
01:30:28.840But the American people had chosen him before in the same matchup, meaning against Trump.
01:30:33.440Maybe he was right to believe that they would do so again.
01:30:36.880He was, by some measures, the most consistently underestimated man in Washington.
01:30:40.500He'd been right about his tactics for pushing his agenda through a resistant Congress.
01:30:44.080It was just possible he was right about this, too.
01:30:46.520And of all the people in the White House, I was in the worst position to make the case that he should drop out.
01:30:51.300I knew it would come off to him as incredibly self-serving.
01:30:53.700If I'd advised him not to run, he would see it as naked ambition, perhaps as poisonous disloyalty, even if my only message was, don't let the other guy win.
01:31:28.660Many people want to spin up a narrative of some big conspiracy at the White House to hide Joe Biden's infirmity.
01:31:36.140Here is the truth as I lived it, my lived experience, as I lived it.
01:31:40.720Joe Biden was a smart guy with long experience and deep conviction, able to discharge the duties of president.
01:31:45.740On his worst day, he was more deeply knowledgeable, more capable of exercising judgment and far more compassionate than Donald Trump on his best.
01:31:54.460That's when his age showed in physical and verbal stumbles.
01:31:57.240I don't think it's any surprise that the debate debacle happened right after two back-to-back trips to Europe and a flight to the West Coast for a Hollywood fundraiser.
01:32:37.980Because I'd gone after him over busing in the 2019 primary debate, I came into the White House with what we lawyers call a rebuttable presumption.
01:32:45.100I had to prove my loyalty time and time again.
01:32:47.340When Fox News attacked me on everything from my laugh to my tone of voice to whom I dated in my 20s or claimed I was a DEI hire, the White House rarely pushed back with my actual resume.
01:32:58.820Like, they should have been running out there, Mike, saying, she's a lawyer.
01:33:06.280Two terms elected DA, top cop in the second largest DOJ in the United States, meaning Attorney General of California, where it's just a political greasy pole if you're a Democrat.
01:33:16.480Senator representing one in eight Americans, meaning, again, Senator from the same state, California.
01:33:23.900Lorraine Volz, my chief of staff, constantly had to advocate for my role at events.
01:33:28.020She's not going to stand there like a potted plant.
01:33:59.220She's like, why didn't they talk about your resume?
01:34:01.580You were the DA of San Francisco for, what, two terms?
01:34:04.640I don't think there's much of a resume there.
01:34:06.860Certainly not something they want to mention out loud in the middle of this crime moment where people are worried about the endemic crime of San Francisco.
01:34:44.260Like, would you just be a grown-up and, like, either take the slings and arrows like a grown-up or go out there and give an interview and defend your damn self, you whiny little brat?
01:35:11.460Australia had agreed to buy submarines from France but scrapped that contract when we and the U.K. agreed to supply Australia with nuclear subs instead.
01:35:41.780I was invited to visit the renowned Pasteur Institute where my mother had worked as an mRNA researcher.
01:35:48.040I was speaking informally with a scientist about how I wish politicians would more closely follow the scientific method, testing a hypothesis and adjusting according to results, rather than coming up with the plan, as if they had all the answers up front.
01:36:03.220I said the plan with exaggerated emphasis and air quotes.
01:36:07.960Fox News, The New York Post, and Newsmax went wild, claiming I'd faked a French accent.
01:36:13.760That was total nonsense, but the White House seemed glad to let reporting about my gaffe overwhelm the significant thaw in foreign relations I had achieved.
01:36:59.980I think that she's a funny person sort of accidentally, but if she just surrounded herself with people who would tease her a bit more, I think she would learn this about herself and she would lean into it.
01:37:14.640And she is this like buffoonish, clownish character who should not be there.
01:37:18.240She even said, I remember during the election, it might've been, she talked about this dream of hers that she had, not of being president, but of opening a restaurant in Napa Valley that would just serve like one dish a day.
01:37:29.720And I remember thinking, I would, I'll go, I'll go to that restaurant.
01:37:55.180I often learned that the president's staff was adding fuel to negative narratives that spring up around me.
01:38:01.980One narrative that took a stubborn hold was that I had a chaotic office and unusually high staff turnover during my first year.
01:38:08.620Now, I'm just going to say it is, um, it is shitty when you realize that people who are supposed to be on your team are leaking or pushing negative stories about you to the press.
01:38:20.800I didn't say anything whatsoever about NBC.
01:38:24.980Um, that's, that's not something I would ever do, but I just know from random past experiences, I choose not to name that when your own colleagues go out there and do that to you, it does make them shit people and makes you feel bad.
01:38:36.960So I, I have some empathy for her here and I have no trouble believing that the Joe Biden team was shitty.
01:38:42.840She writes, um, this isn't nice because the white house is a revolving door of people.
01:38:51.140She says the first year in any white house sees staff churn working for the first woman vice president.
01:38:56.840My staff had the additional challenge of confronting gendered stereotypes, a constant battle that could prove exhausting.
01:39:04.700Mike, see, no matter how bad you think you had it or Joe Biden had it under the douchebags of the Obama presidency, she had it worse because insert cue here, black woman.
01:39:17.020Yeah, but then she also wants to not be known as the DEI hire, right?
01:39:20.000She's like, don't you dare talk about my identity, but my identity is core to everything that I experience.
01:40:28.800The VP should take on irregular migration.
01:40:31.660From March 2021, my assignment was to attack the root causes of the misery that was driving people from their homes.
01:40:38.200Then we get two pages on how she wasn't the border czar and no one from the comms team helped her to effectively push back and explain what she'd really been tasked to do, nor to highlight any of the progress I had achieved.
01:41:19.620I would only have read this for you, but I did read this before this discussion.
01:41:24.420And I was interested in her approach to the border, which is like, you know, people wouldn't come here if things were better.
01:41:31.240You know, they were investing in these local communities or whatever.
01:41:33.240That's, like, conceptually interesting, though she takes credit for something that clearly didn't work.
01:41:38.000It just practically doesn't work at all because there are 650 million people south of the border, and you can't fix all of South America in an attempt to keep them coming to America, to the United States.
01:41:49.880And I wish that we would have that discussion publicly because, like, if that was the White House's strategy to keeping immigrants out, that's extremely bad.
01:41:58.600And we should have a national conversation on that.
01:42:02.020She talks all about how, like, she was really working to create opportunities in places like Guatemala to reduce their urge to leave Guatemala.
01:42:10.240But, I mean, it's like, okay, you know, I took out my little butter knife and I chipped away at that edge of the Titanic iceberg, and I whittled it down.
01:42:20.280You know, by a good inch, I shaved off that thing.
01:42:23.340Okay, madam, but the ship hit the berg and thousands of people died.
01:42:28.380So, you know, you could forgive the White House press office for not touting her big achievements.
01:42:34.400So she's really a victim because she basically solved immigration and they wouldn't talk about it.
01:42:41.720I wanted to get the good news out, but White House staff stalled.
01:45:44.140It's like her team fed her a bunch of bullshit and it's made it now into her book.
01:45:49.140She says, okay, in Selma, Alabama, at the commemoration of Bloody Sunday when civil rights marchers were attacked and beaten once they crossed the Edmund Pettus Bridge, I gave a strong speech on the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
01:46:02.600And she goes on to give the examples of what she said.
01:46:04.440It was a speech that had been vetted and approved by the White House and the National Security Council.
01:46:09.820It went viral and the West Wing was displeased.
01:46:15.580I was castigated for apparently delivering it too well.
01:46:20.680This movie, I should have had this cut from, oh, what's the name of the movie?