On this episode of The Megyn Kelly Show, Meghan chats with health and wellness expert Gary Breckenridge, founder of The Ultimate Human, a movement designed to help you feel better, look better, and live longer naturally.
00:34:21.740And by waste, I mean inflammatory proteins, cytokines, histamines, these inflammatory proteins that if they are not drained from the brain will stay in the brain.
00:34:32.940And these are the genesis of a lot of things.
00:34:35.540Alzheimer's, dementia, early onset cognitive decline, which, by the way, are not conditions of you losing your memory.
00:34:43.500It is a fallacy that people that have Alzheimer's are losing their memory.
00:34:50.740Your memory. I am sitting right now, physically sitting in a memory care facility. It is called Regentra. I'm checking my mother and my father in today into assisted care. It's actually independent and assisted care living because there is a project here called Regentra where they're using red light therapy, hydrogen gas, vibration shake plates to dramatically improve cognitive outcomes in the elderly.
00:35:21.460And what we are seeing coming out of these studies is absolutely mind-numbing, controlling
00:35:27.380their glycemic profile, their blood sugar, and reducing these inflammatory compounds.
00:35:31.700So let's go back to sleep because that's what you asked about.
00:35:35.180So creatine is one of those things in high doses that crosses the blood-brain barrier.
00:35:40.420And what it does is creatine can actually mitigate the effects of sleep deprivation.
00:35:46.800So my wife going through menopause was having a very difficult time sleeping.
00:35:51.860I mean, if she slept more than two or three hours at a stretch without a long period of waking, that was a good night for her.
00:35:57.820So she was taking 20 milligrams of creatine daily because in high doses, it does cross the blood-brain barrier.
00:36:06.360And there is evidence that it can mitigate the effects of sleep deprivation.
00:36:10.720So if you are a female over 42 to 44 years old, I would insist that you are on a minimum
00:36:18.440of five milligrams of creatine a day, full stop.0.99
00:36:22.000Is it something you have to build up, you know, like five milligrams for a week, 10
00:36:26.220milligrams for two weeks, and then graduate to 20?
00:36:28.860No, the loading dose was sort of a bodybuilder holdover where you did a loading dose of creatine
00:36:35.060for a week, and then you actually went down to five milligrams.
00:36:37.920that's that's uh those studies are related to muscle hypertrophy growing uh lean muscle tearing
00:36:44.720a muscle having the muscle grow back larger when we're talking about the cognitive benefits um in
00:36:49.800the inflammatory benefits anti-inflammatory benefits 20 milligrams of creatine split into
00:36:55.020two 10 milligram doses it's very safe um and okay you just put it in like a glass of water
00:37:01.260put it in a glass of water now here's here's the difference between the two creatines monohydrate
00:37:06.400there's more clinical evidence on monohydrate. I am actually a fan of both monohydrate and
00:37:13.880creatine hydrochloride, HCL. Women sometimes will find that they bloat less on HCL,
00:37:21.780hydrochloride, because it is 40% more water soluble. One of the things that creatine does,0.96
00:37:26.920which is why bodybuilders love it, is it holds water in the muscle, but it also holds water in0.71
00:37:32.160the gut. And so dissolve your creatine completely or use a form that has other carriers like a
00:37:40.620symbiotica gel pack creatine, very, very good form monohydrate. Start with five milligrams
00:37:46.800and then work your way up. Don't do a loading dose at first. Five milligrams week one and week
00:37:52.280two, you can switch all the way to 20 milligrams a day. You will notice the difference in cognitive
00:37:57.960function in 24 hours. Some people even say the same day because sleep deprivation
00:38:04.400leaves these inflammatory proteins in the brain. So you want something to cross the blood brain
00:38:11.080barrier and help get them out. So you could do that every day regularly or just save that for
00:38:16.740when you had a bad night sleep? So if you don't have consistently poor sleep, if poor sleep is
00:38:22.400something that is not common to you, so it only happens when you travel, only happens when you're
00:38:26.760stress only happens when you change time zones, then you can save those large doses of creatine
00:38:32.360for that period of time. If you're going through menopause or you are a chronically poor sleeper,
00:38:37.980I would recommend that you take the 20 milligrams of creatine daily. It is a game changer for
00:38:44.500cognitive function. In this memory care facility, I'm in Coconut Creek, Florida, these 80, 85,
00:38:53.06090-year-old patients are on high doses of creatine, 20 milligrams of creatine a day.
00:38:59.080My mother is on 20 milligrams of creatine a day, and it is having very, very positive outcomes on
00:39:03.820learned memory, short-term recall, focus, concentration, and complex tasking.
00:39:09.700You said, what was that thing you mentioned? Red light therapy, I know. That sounded familiar.
00:39:15.040Then there were two other things, and the second of them was something about a shake bed?
00:43:18.320No, I love it. The visual aid. Everybody loves the visual aid.
00:43:21.300This is, I will tell you that the role of hydrogen gas in the human body, mark my words on this, is the greatest discovery of our millennia.
00:43:34.240Hydrogen water, hydrogen inhalation, and even bathing in hydrogen gas will be as common as a multivitamin in 10 years.
00:43:44.460The evidence is absolutely crystal clear.
00:43:47.740and i am talking about human trials of peer-reviewed placebo-controlled randomized
00:43:53.820clinical trials conducted at gold standard universities that are in the public domain
00:43:58.220that have been published hydrogen is the smallest lightest element in the universe
00:44:03.400it's highest on the periodic table it's also the most prevalent element in the universe 10 of your
00:44:08.380body weight is hydrogen so it's harmless to human beings the role that hydrogen gas has in the human
00:44:13.600body. We have only recently discovered. So hydrogen acts as what's called a selective
00:44:20.960antioxidant. So in other words, it doesn't just reduce oxidative stress. It reduces oxidative
00:44:29.720stress to neutrality. It restores something called redox homeostasis. And why is that important?
00:44:37.740because too much inflammation, too much oxidation, too many free radicals, very bad.
00:44:45.540Too little inflammation, too few free radicals, too little oxidation, also very bad.
00:44:54.480You want there to be a balance, which is called redox homeostasis.
00:44:58.760You want there to be a balance between what's called inflammation and reduction.
00:45:03.060But when you take hydrogen gas, it restores this to neutrality, to balance, and stops, even if you take too much.
00:45:12.640There is not a professional athlete that I work with.
00:45:15.360There's not a VIP client whose health trajectory I manage who is not regularly bathing in hydrogen gas and does not take hydrogen water tablets every single day.
00:45:26.660And you can just take elemental magnesium, which is what a hydrogen tablet is, drop it into water, and it will effervesce into pure hydrogen gas, and you can drink it.
00:45:36.360So what happens when that goes into the body is it neutralizes these free radicals.
00:45:41.720So when we say something is an antioxidant, for example, like what does that mean?
00:48:21.220her brother cali and i she's amazing i love him too i know because you're very active in the maha
00:48:26.980space he's they're both brilliant we're so lucky to have them um but she was the first person who
00:48:33.260just insisted that i get the ro filter uh in my house which i did the carbon filter and the ro
00:48:38.560yes but a friend of mine was saying that they had they've gone next level and they've put one of
00:48:44.700these like is this possible to have a yes is it a hydrogen filter in their house like do i need
00:48:50.640something other than the RO now? Like, what is this? How would this work in terms of consuming
00:48:54.460water? I will tell you that the single best under-the-counter water filtration system in
00:49:00.600the world is called a MAW water filter, M-A-W. I think it's MAW wellness. That tells it I have it
00:49:09.940under every sink in my house. I have it under every sink in every property that I have.
00:49:13.440So what this does is uses sediment and reverse osmosis, these different carbon filters and different filters to completely destructure the water.
00:49:25.080So you have, you take out fluoride, chlorine, microplastics, pharmaceuticals, what's called PFAs, polyfluoroalkyls.
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00:53:48.540well my entire staff and i have been shopping during the commercial break trying to get
00:53:56.940tabs hydrogen tabs and tallow-based sunscreen and all sorts of these fun recommendations and
00:54:02.760i feel healthier already thanks to gary brecca he's our guest today he's founder of the ultimate
00:54:08.400human media platform and let me tell you something i know you you're very familiar with this story
00:54:13.500gary but there it is ultimate human um it wasn't that long ago i don't know maybe nine ten months
00:54:20.080maybe a year where i was i was watching something that you had done and you were telling the dana
00:54:26.060white story uh ceo of uh ufc and it led me down a rabbit hole into dana white videos talking about
00:54:34.620his health and i'm going to let you set the stage in a second for his turnaround but i just want to
00:54:39.540show the audience this. So this, I get to this video where he's laying out part of what Gary's
00:54:44.300protocol for him has been and how it's been absolutely life-changing. This is a guy who was
00:54:48.680on blood pressure medication. They were going to be doing these like aggressive interventions,
00:54:53.880like surgical interventions on his heart. He thought he had a limited time on this earth left
00:54:58.960when it came to his blood pressure and his heart issues. And then Gary came into his life. Long
00:55:03.280story short, he's off all meds. He's off all of them now. Thanks to Gary. And here's some of what
00:55:08.960he put on the internet that he does which i find fascinating so first there's um dana here there's
00:55:14.480video of him getting into this red light bed so he doesn't just do red light for the face he does
00:55:18.600red light he's in the bed he's got his shorts on that's all he wears and he goes into this
00:55:24.720red light bed that he pulls down over him i think it's 20 minutes a pop he says he does this at
00:55:30.580least a few times a week and this is one of the ways in which he starts his day then he also says
00:55:36.340he does this. He runs on a treadmill while breathing oxygen. Now, I have done this at
00:55:44.200this spa not far from me. We call it med spa or gym spa, spa gym. And this is like a big thing
00:55:51.340where they have you at this gym spa. We ride a bike and we put these oxygen masks over our faces
00:55:58.160and then you put the little like a handle on on the mountain where your oxygen goes way down
00:56:05.500and off the mountain you get all sorts of good oxygen flowing in through this mask so it's the
00:56:10.300same sort of approach i don't understand it any better when i do it there than i when i watch
00:56:14.560dana doing it here we'll get to that with gary and third uh dana shows us that he goes on something
00:56:21.320called a p-e-m-f pad that uh here in his video he just lies on it on like a massage table you can
00:56:30.820see him pressing a button, but he says that he sleeps on this every night. And that seems like
00:56:38.380another very low impact way of improving your health. If you just have to sleep on a pad,
00:56:43.440I mean, this is right up our alley. Is it not people where like we can get just a little bit
00:56:47.700better without all of that looks highly pleasant to be quite frank. So walk us through the Dana
00:56:53.860White story and those protocols there, Gary. So I'm going to tell you the expensive way to do it
00:56:58.740And then the free way to do it, because, you know, the best biohacking modalities, what they do is they take the best of what Mother Nature has to offer us and they just make it convenient.
00:57:11.880Very often I say I'm a much bigger believer in what God gave us than what man makes us.
00:57:17.880I'm a bigger believer in our God-given immune system than I am in chemicals and synthetics and pharmaceuticals.
00:57:24.460And the same thing is true with a lot of biohacking modalities.
00:57:26.780um so i'm a huge believer in red light i'm a huge believer in pemf pulse electromagnetic field
00:57:34.720and i'm also a big believer in what dana was doing which is called e-watt which is based on
00:57:39.900dr otter warberg's research who won two nobel prizes in modern medicine called multi-step
00:57:46.440oxygen therapy so if you can afford those pieces of equipment or you have access to them in a spa
00:57:52.440or a gym, by all means, regular red light therapy, regular sauna, regular PEMF, even cold
00:58:00.740immersion, and something called intermittent hypoxia, those are phenomenal things for your
00:58:06.920body. They not only shift your cellular biology, they improve your VO2 max very often at rest,
00:58:12.480and they have proven life extension capabilities. And I'm going to explain that in a second,
00:58:17.180proven, clinically proven life extension capabilities. In fact, I'm in the process now
00:58:22.320of opening 600 ultimate longevity centers all over the country
00:58:27.600because I really feel like my message is for masses,
00:58:30.660not just for the top 2% of a society that can afford that type of equipment.
00:58:36.640A red light bed like that, a really good red light bed will cost you $100,000.
00:58:41.240So if you're getting ready to buy a Ferrari, buy a hyperbaric or a red light bed.
00:58:45.640If you don't have the money for a Ferrari or a red light bed,
00:58:48.280you find your way to one of these centers.
00:58:50.100and there'll be 600 of these around the country
00:59:14.040low-cost memberships where people can actually go in
00:59:16.160and use sauna, red light, hyperbaric chambers,
00:59:19.520PEMF, like you're seeing there with Dana, and something called intermittent hypoxia. And I
00:59:25.140want to explain those in a moment. But if you can't afford a red light bed, a PEMF, and an
00:59:31.240EWAP machine, get sunlight on your skin, learn to do breath work, and touch the surface of the earth,
00:59:38.940you will get the same, very close to the same outcomes. Because certain wavelengths of red
00:59:44.220light. We are very photovoltaic beings. So red light therapy, the primary role of red light
00:59:49.660therapy is it passes through the skin. Remember that light doesn't care about inflammation. It
00:59:55.060doesn't care about the cell wall. It doesn't care about the tissue. It passes right through your
00:59:59.260skin. And when it passes through the skin, one of the things that it does is, without getting too
01:00:05.380scientific, is it goes into a little organelle in the cell called the mitochondria. And the
01:00:11.160mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell it's a little battery that's inside of your cell
01:00:15.200and we have about 110 trillion of these in our bodies 10 of your body weight is mitochondria
01:00:21.140so you've got 110 trillion of these in your cells they're very important and they're making energy
01:00:25.580they're making this form of energy called ATP what's fascinating about the mitochondria is that
01:00:31.960there's a motor inside of the mitochondria and every time it makes one revolution it has two
01:00:37.140choices. It can either create two units of energy, two ATP, or it can create 36 units of energy,
01:00:45.26036 ATP. One turn, and it's either 16 times more powerful or 16 times less powerful.
01:00:54.440So what determines whether or not it's 16 times more efficient or more powerful or 16 times less?
01:01:00.460the presence of oxygen. If oxygen enters that cycle, aerobic respiration, you get 36 ATP.
01:01:09.320If carbon dioxide, anaerobic respiration, enters that cycle, you get two ATP. One of the things
01:01:16.160that red light does is when it passes through the wall of this mitochondria, it kicks out a gas,
01:01:22.040a gas called mitochondrial nitric oxide, and forces oxygen to dock. So it's almost like taking
01:01:28.440a hammer and driving oxygen into the battery, the powerhouse of the cell. So red light therapy
01:01:35.660heals you and gives you energy from the inside out. Certain wavelengths of sunlight do the same
01:01:42.380thing. So yes, red light therapy is excellent. How many times a week would you be doing that?
01:01:47.400Well, red light therapy is dose dependent, just like sauna. So if you look at the research on
01:01:52.260dry sauna, for example, and the data is clear on dry sauna, I don't think anyone in the functional
01:01:57.360medicine or biohacking space would argue the impact of sauna. Just to clarify, dry sauna is
01:02:04.960like what you know of as sauna. Wet sauna is steam room. I mean, dry sauna and infrared sauna.
01:02:11.840So they're both dry. One uses light to create friction and heat you up. The other uses heat
01:02:19.300to heat you up. A dry sauna is usually about 160 to 180 degrees. An infrared sauna is usually about
01:02:24.920100, 155 degrees, but it also makes you sweat. It makes you sweat by using wavelengths of light
01:02:30.360to create friction in water chromophores. So it actually also makes you sweat. Either of those
01:02:35.980is fine, an infrared sauna or a dry sauna. I'm not a fan of commercial steam rooms unless they
01:02:42.440filter their water because commercial steam rooms usually bring in the municipal water
01:02:46.320and then you are vaporizing fluoride gas, chlorine gas, polyfluoroalkyls. Whatever is in that water,
01:02:52.700you're turning into a gas good point and the way that we take a poison and turn it into a
01:02:57.980bioweapon is we vaporize it right i mean you you and i could be sitting on in front of a desk with0.50
01:03:03.640a pile of anthrax on our desk no problem if you lit that on fire or vaporized it big problem
01:03:10.220right um so there's a dark thought there's a dark yeah i got really dark there for a second
01:03:16.120sorry wow i'm not there i was in the steam room enjoying myself until i got poisoned by anthrax
01:03:22.700Yeah, it was all fun and games until Gary vaporized the anthrax, you know.
01:03:28.240But, and I'm not saying municipal steam rooms are that bad, but when you walk into a lot of these, yeah, locker rooms, you smell the chlorine, right?
01:03:49.720Right. So we know that sauna reduces all-cause mortality, meaning we know that the reduction in cardiovascular risk and the reduction in all-cause mortality clearly causal, not correlated.
01:04:02.920It is a clear line in the scientific literature. So sauna is one of those things that if you're on a longevity bandwagon, it should be somewhere in your stack.
01:18:20.040The two basketballs have the same surface area as 32 little BBs. Those 32 little BBs are very
01:18:24.920dangerous because they will pass through the endothelium the the arterial wall they'll get
01:18:29.080eaten by a macrophage they'll start foam cell um they'll start the production of what's called foam
01:18:33.840cells which is the genesis of plaquing scarring narrowing cardiovascular disease cholesterol by
01:18:40.960itself doesn't magically just jump out of the bloodstream and stick to the arterial wall
01:18:44.980you need oxidation and you need um that molecular size of the cholesterol to be very small
01:18:52.580So I'm going to say something that's going to sound controversial, but if anyone has evidence to prove this statement wrong, I'm happy to look at it.
01:18:59.540No one has ever been able to do this for me so far.
01:19:02.960But there is zero, and I mean zero, evidence anywhere in the peer-reviewed published clinical literature linking elevated levels of LDL cholesterol on its own to cardiovascular disease.
01:19:16.200you have to have a corresponding increase in triglyceride or you have to have the small
01:19:21.740particle size now lipo a lipo little a which is genetic is a very dangerous form of cholesterol
01:19:29.540right now there are no pharmacological solutions for that pks3 9 inhibitors do not reduce lipo
01:19:35.120little a there may be solutions by the end of this year but as we stand right now there are
01:19:39.900not pharmacological solutions for lipo little a lipo b so what happens is we've selected one
01:19:46.000myopic view of cholesterol ldl and we've said ldl high cardiovascular risk high we need to get it
01:19:53.500low that is not true and i will tell you that in the evidence because when i was in the mortality
01:20:01.040space we had access to the day date time location and cause of death for 371 million lives i can
01:20:09.400tell you in 22 years, I never processed a single death claim on a centenarian, somebody who lived
01:20:14.300over age 100, that did not have clinically elevated levels of LDL cholesterol at the time
01:20:19.580of their death. And if you look at blue zone studies, elevated LDL cholesterol, low triglyceride.
01:20:26.320If you look at the centenarian death claims that I processed, high LDL cholesterol, low triglyceride.
01:20:33.200if you want to focus on a single variable that makes your cholesterol less lethal control your
01:20:40.200insulin insulin resistance is a greater marker for cardiovascular disease insulin and hemoglobin
01:20:48.160a1c than ldo cholesterol i would not i am not a physician so let me be the first one to say that
01:20:55.240i'm not a physician and i am not licensed to practice medicine um but i am a data scientist
01:21:00.500and I have read the data, if it were me or my loved one, I would not take a statin if purely
01:21:07.760my LDL cholesterol number was elevated, especially if I had normal to low triglyceride.
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01:29:50.180back with me now gary brecca he's founder of the ultimate human media platform find it now at
01:30:00.840the ultimate human.com all right gary i have so many things i need to get through with you in the
01:30:05.260last 13 minutes okay bang through a bunch like quick hits let's go all right um there's a lot
01:30:11.760okay you this is from you you do not have an autoimmune disease you have a pathological0.84
01:30:19.740infection. So if you think you have an autoimmune disease, you say there are five things that you
01:30:29.020need to think about. Forget what the disease is. Forget lamentations about having one. There are
01:30:37.220five things you can look into to improve your health and how you feel. The first one on the
01:30:43.840list is mold. Very interesting. Do you want to keep going from there? Yep. Mycotoxin, parasite,
01:30:51.040virus, and heavy metal. I'm going to do a little demonstration here that may be the most
01:30:56.260significant thing that you learned about autoimmune. Now, I am not saying that all
01:31:01.080autoimmune disease is caused by those five things. What I am telling you that is that as a category
01:31:06.240of disease, 85% of autoimmune is diagnosed as idiopathic, which means that you're led to
01:31:14.100believe that you woke up one day, and for no apparent reason, your immune system turned on
01:31:18.340your colon, so you have Crohn's. You woke up one day, and for no apparent reason, it started to
01:31:22.900attack the myelin sheath of your nerve. You have multiple sclerosis. It went after your thyroid.
01:31:27.420You have Hashimoto's, the chagrins, lacrimal gland of the eye, and on and on and on.
01:31:31.380um so if if this this is a piece of gum but if this was a mold spore or a mycotoxin or a parasite
01:31:39.660or a virus or a heavy metal and this healthy cell this does not hide like this it hides like this
01:31:48.780and that's a very important distinction because the immune system is hyper vigilant it wants to
01:31:55.020get to this right and it's hiding just for listening audience he's putting the bad thing
01:33:27.620The immune system is chasing that perpetrator, and it begins an autoimmune response.
01:33:32.540If you have Crohn's disease, the immune system didn't just wake up one day and attack your colon for no reason.
01:33:37.340Usually what has happened is that you have damaged the single cell layer of the inside lining of your intestine.
01:33:44.880You have something called leaky gut, where contents from the inside of your intestine are leaking through the wall and into the bloodstream.
01:33:54.940And the immune system arrives there and starts a fight.
01:33:58.180And then we suppress the immune system.
01:33:59.960We hold it responsible for a crime it's not committing.
01:34:02.620And we give you high doses of corticosteroids, anti-inflammatories, to try to control the inflammation.
01:34:08.640Instead of saying, why did the immune system show up in the first place?
01:34:13.180Why is a police officer at my house kicking in my door?
01:34:41.340So a cell bitten by a virus becomes that virus, for lack of a better explanation.
01:34:47.660And also, I just want to say, Dr. Dale Bredesen, who is a brilliant doctor who studies Alzheimer's and dementia, he says looking at all those things also helps prevent Alzheimer's because you're reducing your viral load, you're reducing your toxic load, which will help your brain in addition to these other things.
01:35:07.960So yeah, this can help you in a number of ways.
01:35:10.740But I want to keep going because there's so many, so many other things.
01:35:13.320You had a woman on your show recently talking about your feet.
01:35:17.580No one thinks about their feet as important to longevity.
01:35:21.600But I listened to the two of you and I went, I have to say,
01:35:25.080I bought a pair of the ugliest sneakers I have ever seen.
01:35:29.920They're going to make us live longer somehow, Gary.
01:35:32.640I know, but they're so not fashionable, Megan.
01:35:37.040But I mean, if just look at the general shape of the foot,
01:35:40.460foot shaped like a y look at the general shape of a uh shoe it's shaped like a pyramid
01:35:47.600and like a pizza yeah pizza shaped like a slice of pizza but that's usually processed food so
01:35:54.360let's stay away from the pizza analogy shaped like the uh the uh capital building so you you
01:36:01.000you have this uh pizza shape to most shoes but you have a y shape to our feet and if you look
01:36:07.260at what happens, bunions and corns and things like that, the toes start to turn in towards each
01:36:15.340other. We also, because our shoes, some running shoes even have carbon fiber insoles, like flat
01:36:22.800insoles. So we're losing the original strength of our feet. There's an amazing book called Born to
01:36:28.600Run. It was about Mexican tribes that run 60, 70 miles on a regular basis every week barefoot.