Red Wave? Megyn Kelly's Election Night Special, with Larry Elder, Bari Weiss, David Sacks, Dennis Prager, and More | Ep. 430
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In this special election night edition of The Megyn Kelly Show, host Meghan Kelly is joined by Dennis Prager, Barry Weiss, David Sachs, Camille Foster, Larry Elder, and many more friends of the show to discuss the latest results from polling places across the country.
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Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show's election night special.
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We are live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 and for the first time ever live on YouTube.
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That's fun. Hope you're watching us on YouTube. And if you are, you can send us questions in the
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chat and I will try to answer as many as I can throughout the next two hours. That's also
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something that I was not able to do with you guys while I was live on Fox and NBC. So this is better
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and I'm really enjoying myself. Plus, I've got leggings on. So that's a plus or joining us on
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the show this evening. We've got a cast of all stars, Dennis Prager, Barry Weiss, David Sachs,
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Camille Foster, Larry Elder and many more friends of the show right now at 9 p.m. Eastern polls are
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closing in several key states, including Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, New York and Wisconsin.
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Already some key races have been called. The Associated Press projecting Florida Governor
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Ron DeSantis, winner of the gubernatorial race in Florida. CNN projecting Florida Senator Marco
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Rubio will defeat his Democratic opponent, Congresswoman Val Demings. The margins are
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what's interesting there. And so far, it seems like a bloodbath. Meanwhile, exit polls showing the top
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issue for voters was the state of the economy. And CNN's exit polls showing only five percent of
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people polled felt enthusiastic about the direction of the country. The New York Times tonight, and I'm
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not kidding, this is true, wrote tips on how its readers can deal with election night results.
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They include, quote, breathe like a baby and, quote, plunge your face into a bowl of ice water.
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I guess when you cater to the snowflakes, you need to offer tips like that, though, if you are a
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snowflake, you surely shouldn't be putting yourself in a bowl of ice water. It's not going to end well.
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It's going to be a fun couple of hours, so we're going to get started. Let's get right on it. When
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it comes to analyzing election night results straight down the middle, there is no better
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place to look than the team at Real Clear Politics. I've been relying on them for the entire time.
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I've been a journalist. Tom Bevan is the man behind it. He's the co-founder of RCP and its president,
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and he's here with us tonight to get us started. Tom, so great to have you. How are you doing?
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All right. So what's your overall take on what you've seen so far?
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Well, I mean, it's still early in a lot of these states, but as you mentioned,
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you know, the margins in Florida were really impressive for Ron DeSantis, 19 points and Marco
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Rubio, 16 points, winning Miami-Dade County. I mean, just all sorts of Republican strength shown in the
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state of Florida. And we've seen that state growing more red over time, but this was really,
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you know, Republicans flexing their muscles in the state of Florida.
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As far as some of the Senate races, you know, it's early in Georgia. That race is very, very close.
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A lot of votes still to be counted. Close in New Hampshire. No call in Ohio or North Carolina yet.
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Both of those races are still being counted. So some work to do, even though in Ohio, the governor's race
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was called almost immediately. Mike DeWine reelected and Chris Sununu in Hampshire was
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immediately called as well. So and we'll have to see what happens out West. I mean, obviously we,
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you know, we had this situation in Arizona with Maricopa County and the malfunctioning tabulators.
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But it looks like Republicans out there are, the turnout's pretty strong in both Arizona and
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Nevada. But again, a lot of votes still to be counted.
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All right, let's go through a few of those that you just ticked off. First, Florida,
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the Miami-Dade County in particular, as I understand it, DeSantis and Rubio both won that
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by double digits. And this is a county that Hillary Clinton won by 30 points in 2016. The enormous
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swing toward the GOP in what was a pretty solidly blue county when it came to voting. What explains it?
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Well, the Hispanic vote, I mean, it's a 70% Hispanic county and the Cuban-American vote there
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has swung very hard toward Republicans. But just generally speaking, I mean, I think independence
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broke for Republicans there and, you know, Ron DeSantis' strength. You're right. I mean,
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this was a county that Democrats, it was one of their strongholds for a long, long time. It hadn't
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been won by a Republican since Jeb Bush in 2002. So it's been two decades since this has happened.
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And obviously, Jeb Bush was a very popular governor as well. So, look, it just shows that I
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think, you know, particularly in the state of Florida, Ron DeSantis is extremely popular. Marco
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Rubio, you know, people were thinking that this race was going to be, the Val Demings was going
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to be, give him a real challenge. The polls were tight initially. And then at the end, he sort of
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broke away and he even outperformed his polls by, I don't know, I think seven or eight points.
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It's interesting for many reasons, including what it portends for 2024. You know, if Florida is
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officially red because it was purple and both sides fought for it hard, if Florida is officially
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red, I mean, that's that's a terrible development for the Dems because it's so rich in its electoral
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votes. They, of course, have meantime been turning other previously reddish or purple states blue,
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like Virginia, like they're focused on Georgia. They're even thinking about Texas. So, you know,
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it all could even out in the end, but an interesting trend. OK, let's talk about what's happening
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in in well, Pennsylvania and Georgia. And then we'll move out west right now. Georgia Senate race
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Warnock. He was at 50 percent so far in the vote. Now they just lowered him down to 49 percent. Only
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48 percent of the votes, as I understand, are in right now. Warnock is at 49. Walker's at 48.
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It's neck and neck. I'm very, very reluctant to talk too much about the early vote count and how
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each candidate is doing, because in nine out of 10 cases, the early vote count heavily favors the
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Democrat. And what we're looking at isn't isn't real. It's not meaningful to just take a sample of the
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votes so far and say, oh, this is what we know. I mean, we don't we don't really know much.
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That's right. We don't. And it's gotten worse. Right. You have you have this real bifurcation
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between Democrats who are banking a ton of early vote, more so than in the past, and Republicans who are
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for various reasons, including, you know, election integrity issues have sort of shied away from
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from voting early and doing mail in ballots. And so they overwhelmingly show up on election day.
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So you really do have this, you know, you have a huge portion of the vote Democrats coming in
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before the actual election day and then Republicans. So it is tough to to figure out.
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You really do have to wait until you get a decent amount of the vote in before you can start trying
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to figure out, OK, and even then you've got to know where the vote is, where it's coming in.
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Is it coming in from the cities? Are we waiting on rural counties? So it's it's a pretty complex
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thing to try and, you know, suss out exactly where the vote, but which vote has come in and which vote
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is still left out. But right now it does look like in in some of these counties in Pennsylvania and
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Georgia that Fetterman is underperforming Shapiro, the Democrat at the top of the ticket for the
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governor's race in Pennsylvania, and that Herschel Walker may be underperforming Brian Kemp
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in the same situation down in Georgia. Is that a surprise to you? It looks like there may be
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Not at all. I mean, that's that was evident in the polls. And that was one of the interesting
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questions about this. This election is how how many ticket splitters were there going to be out
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there? You know, was Brian Kemp really going to win as if the polls are correct, that he would win
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by five or six points and Herschel Walker would lose or that, you know, Shapiro would win by 10 or 12
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points and John Fetterman would lose. There there is some ticket splitting going on a little bit.
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We just look at New Hampshire where you've got, you know, again, Sununu one is going to win over
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one overwhelmingly. And yet you've still got a really, really close race at the Senate level. So
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not not terribly surprising to see that Fetterman is running behind and that Walker is running behind
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Kim. Are you surprised about Ohio that they called for the governor's race, but they didn't call for
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J.D. Vance or for his opponent? Not really. I mean, the polls, same thing. DeWine was up 15,
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20 points in the polls. Vance was, you know, at six, seven, eight points. And so that wasn't
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totally unexpected that they would do a snap call on the on the governor's race, but hold off on the
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on the Senate race there. All right. Let's move to Arizona, because what happened in Maricopa
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County is making all sorts of news. Harmeet Dillon, a lawyer to a lot of GOP years, including
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President Trump and including in this case, Carrie Lake and and the GOP has filed a lawsuit
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to try to keep the polls open in Maricopa County till at least 10 and to not start tabulating
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the votes or releasing them publicly until 11 p.m. because the voting machines, according
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to local officials, were printing ballots that didn't have enough ink. So the proper lines
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weren't showing up. They say that they've rectified the situation. But according to Carrie
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Lake and a Harmeet's lawyer to the lawyer Harmeet's petition, she says that voters were told
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when they showed up, oh, you can just spoil your ballot, you know, throw it away and then
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you can just go to another polling station and you can vote there. And that voters then
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did that only to be told, oh, no, you cannot. You you started at this other place and we're
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not going to let you vote here because how can we be sure that that vote didn't go through?
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People got upset. They were allowed to cast provisional ballots, but they don't know if
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they're going to be counted and so on. It's been kind of a mess. And that has Carrie
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Lake saying the following, because keep in mind, her opponent is the secretary of state
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who oversees the integrity of elections. Here's her soundbite one.
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Do you think this is normal, guys? My question is, do you think what's happening here in Maricopa
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County is normal? We have had problems after problems. And there's a reason we decided to
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change locations. We were going to go to a pretty Republican area. But I woke up this morning and
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within minutes of the polls opening up, I started getting people calling voters in tears, calling my
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personal number, saying, what's going on? The tabulators aren't working. They told me to put
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my my ballot into a box and they would drive it downtown to county. This is not normal stuff.
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We don't have to have elections running this way. We switched from a Republican area to vote. We came
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right down to the heart of liberal Phoenix to vote because we wanted to make sure that we had good
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machines. And guess what? They've had zero problems with their machines today. Not one machine spit out a ballot
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here today. Not one in a very liberal area. So we were right to come and vote in a liberal area.
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They got to fix this problem. This is incompetency. I hope it's not malice, but we're going to fix it.
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We're going to win. And when we win, there's going to be come to Jesus for elections in Arizona.
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There's going to be a come to Jesus. She says, I hope it's not malice, suggesting that her opponent
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may have been up to some funny business there. I will tell you this just in NBC News reporting,
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the judge in Maricopa County rejected the request to keep the polls open beyond 7 p.m. Arizona time,
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citing a lack of evidence that anyone had been prevented from voting. If it's tight out there,
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I mean, it's just unbelievable that after what happened in 2020 and all of that, the state had
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two years to get their stuff together and to show up on election day. Again, remember, not just that
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Katie Hobbs is the secretary of state, but the Democrats have banked a lot of their early vote
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or a lot of their vote in the early voting period. And knowing that it's overwhelmingly Republicans
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that are going to show up on election day to vote, that 20 to 25, even 27% of the tabulating
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machines in the largest county in the state do not work is just unbelievable. And listen,
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I hope everybody who wanted to vote got a chance to vote. And I hope this all works out. But it
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absolutely invites, I mean, if this race comes down to, and Cary Lake or Blake Masters lose by,
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you know, 5,000 votes or a half a percentage point or one, you know, one percentage point,
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it absolutely invites the kind of speculation that, you know, something was not on the up and up.
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And, and that's just, that's the political landscape where, again, hopefully it doesn't
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come to that. And hopefully, you know, whoever wins in Arizona will win by a margin that will,
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you know, sort of preclude any, anybody thinking that, that this snafu that happened
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today was, was done in any sort of deliberate way. You know, this just came in, Tom, uh, MSNBC
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reacting to this whole situation that you and I are discussing. Listen here.
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So the fact that Arizona is already the epicenter of the big lie 2022 is not an accident.
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The cyber ninjas aren't coming to get them this time. But again, as, as, as January 6th committee
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presented all the evidence, it was like, oh yeah, they did all that in public. As we're covering
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Arizona tonight, they've done it all in public. Remember, this was
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I mean, listen, I, you know, you can't watch MSNBC. I mean, they had someone on earlier who
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was saying that, you know, there's been more voter suppression going on in Georgia this year than
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there ever has been in the past, which is just absolutely absurd. I mean, imagine what MSNBC would
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be saying if the largest county in let's say Georgia, okay. Uh, where there were, you know,
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overwhelmingly Democrats were going to turn out to vote and suddenly, you know, one fifth of the
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machines malfunctioned. Imagine what, what they'd be saying, uh, you know, in that circumstance. So
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you just kind of have to ignore that. And exactly. And as Carrie Lake points out
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in no other counties, if the, if the ballot machines were working perfectly in all the GOP
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counties, which is what Carrie was saying that, you know, you've got an opponent who's in charge
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of this whole situation. It just so happens that in the red leaning County, the, the printers weren't
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loaded with the proper ink. This was just an ink, uh, solution. It seems so simple to both break
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and to fix. Yeah. They'd be losing their minds. Tom, we'll get back to you.
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I will say this real quickly, Megan. I mean, the numbers that are coming out of Maricopa County and
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other counties, by the way, in Arizona look very, very good for Republicans. And it seems like this
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may not have, have affected. It may have actually energized Republicans who were pissed off about,
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you know, the snafu and went to different locations, whatever. We'll see how long it takes to
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count the ballots and where this ends up, but it, it may not have, uh, it may have actually
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improved the Republican turnout in, in Maricopa, uh, because of the way this all went down.
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And to reiterate, they were given provisional ballots apparently. And so if things did get
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very tight, there should be a record of how they tried to vote. Tom, we will be back to you, uh,
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often throughout the next couple of hours, Tom and our pal, Jim Garrity of national review are
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hanging out with us all night to keep us up to date on all the breaking developments. Um, so we'll get
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back to them as well. And certainly if something big happens joining me now, Larry Elder, he is the
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host of the Larry Elder show, which can be heard on more than 300 radio stations nationwide. Larry,
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it's not good to have something like that kicking off, uh, one of, one of the big races that we're
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all watching in both the Senate and the gubernatorial race, uh, in a state that's already under the
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No, no, it's not good. And, uh, uh, I was, um, an early supporter of Carrie Lake. I've known her for a number of
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years, uh, campaign for her and campaigned with her, attended a rally with her. Uh, and this is almost
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unfathomable. And as you pointed out, her opponent is a secretary of state. So, uh, it certainly invites, um,
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speculation as to whether or not the, the, uh, election is on going to be on the up and up in the event that it's a close
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election as Tom pointed out. One of these things that I find fascinating though, Megan, about this
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whole business about election deniers is a Democrat spent about $50 million getting various so-called
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election deniers nominated on the Republican side because they assumed that they would be easier to
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beat. Furthermore, for years, I mean, years, uh, people like Hillary Clinton, uh, people like Al Gore,
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Stacey Abrams have been talking about how their elections were unfair, stolen. Uh, they were victimized
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by voter suppression and nobody called them election deniers and nobody accused them of
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undermining the foundation of America Republic. So the hypocrisy is just almost bone chilling.
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You have Jimmy Carter, the former president of the United States saying in 2019 that he thought the
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Russians put, uh, Donald Trump in office. There was a 1,000 page Senate report. They made two major
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conclusions about 2016. Conclusion number one, the Russians tried to change voting machine,
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voting machine tallies, but they failed to change a single one. Jay Johnson, Obama's DHS secretary,
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testified under oath. The Russians failed to change a single vote tally. Yet 66% of Democrats,
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according to a YouGov poll, believe the Russians changed vote tallies to elect Donald Trump.
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The other major finding was that we have no idea, said Jay Johnson, whether or not the Russian
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interference, and there clearly was interference, altered the outcome of election or affected, uh,
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public opinion. Yet, according to Gallup, 78% of Democrats believe the Russian interference
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altered public opinion. In other words, a greater percentage of Democrats believe 2016 was,
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quote unquote, stolen. The Republicans who feel the same way about 2020, yet nobody called them
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election deniers. Hillary's, Hillary's social media platforms were never shut down, even though she
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referred to Donald Trump many times as illegitimate and many times referred to the 2016 election as
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stolen. So the, you know, the hypocrisy is just, as I said, bone chilling, a jaw dropping. I'm running
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We know we get the point. And meanwhile, the Washington Post tonight has got a running tally
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of how many of the quote, election deniers get elected. They're, they're keeping a list and
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taking names, Larry. And I'm sure, you know, we'll see whether Stacey Abrams winds up on that list.
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It doesn't appear that she will, because she's not on track to win. Want to bring you this bit of
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breaking news. Um, Fox news decision desk is calling the Texas race for governor, Greg Abbott,
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um, putting an end to Beto O'Rourke's, you know, how many challenges has this been him challenging
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him, Ted Cruz and so on. It is not to be for Beto, notwithstanding his weird dancing videos at the end
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to the surprise of no one. Let me get to this. The exit polls have some fascinating information in
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them. And my overall impression on it, Larry is it's, it's not good for the Democrats and it's
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absolutely awful for Joe Biden. Um, the numbers, yes, we're not surprised to see inflation is the
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most important issue and the voters trust the Republicans to handle it more than the Dems.
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I will say I was surprised to see close behind it was abortion. 32% say inflation is number one,
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27% say abortion is number two. On abortion, they trust the Dems more by a 10 point, 10 percentage
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point margin. Um, and that, but you get to like the overall numbers. Okay. Economy, 75% say the economy's
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poor or not good. Uh, inflation, 78% say this past year inflation has caused their family
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moderate or severe hardship. Um, you go down the list on values. There are society's values on gender
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identity and sexual orientation changing for the worse or for the better 50%. They're changing for
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the worse. Only 27% say they're changing for the better. 20% say neither. I could keep going,
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but on the cultural issues, on the economic issues on crime and so on, these voters are ready to pull
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the lever for the Republicans. Abortion as it turns out was indeed the Democrats best issue.
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Yeah, it turned out it was their best issue, but of course it wasn't the major issue. The major
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issue of course is inflation, gas prices. Uh, and then you talk about crime, you talk about the
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borders, but here's something else too, that I think is going on for the last several years,
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we've had all of this wokeism, uh, big push for diversity, inclusion, equity. So it's infused
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every segment of our society, academia, media, big tech, uh, people are walking on eggshells,
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lest they be perceived, uh, as racist. Uh, Ibram Kendi, the anti-racist would probably be smiling
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about how anti-racist America is. So if America is anti-racist, if you're black or if you're brown
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and you no longer think of yourself as victimized by systemic racism, then you begin to think of
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yourself the same way other Americans think of themselves. I'm worried about crime. I'm worried
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about inflation. I'm worried about whether or not my kid is going to be infused with critical race
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theory. I'm worried about the borders like everybody else. You can't on the one hand attack
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America for being racist and, uh, put in all these programs and policies and pressure to make America
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more sensitive to race and then say, it didn't matter. It didn't matter. You're still a systemically
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oppressed. So I think that they have kind of been, uh, victors of their own success in convincing
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people that we need to lean over backwards to avoid the appearance of being racist because more and
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more black and brown people say, okay, what about the things that affect me? What about when I go
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to the gas station? What about, uh, when I take my kid to school? What about, uh, inflation? What
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about the fact that I'm paying $400 or $500 a month more for the same goods and services that I paid
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two years ago? This is what's going on in the country. Uh, and the Democrats are going to pay for
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it. The numbers on race, uh, according to the exit polls, racism is a major problem. 50% of voters
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said, yes, minor problem, 30%, not a problem at all. 16%. So you have 46% saying it's either minor
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or not a problem. You got 50% saying it's a major problem. And by the way, we don't know what kind
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of racism those folks are talking about. You know, those could be Asian Americans though,
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because it was going to be any, any type of Americans. Um, and so I think the Democrats are
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going to be surprised to see that their messaging has not, has not resonated in the way that they would
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expect, especially given their total control of the media. Uh, you look at how things are going in
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the United States and this is number one, how are things going in the United States? 73% of today's
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electorate is either angry or dissatisfied, angry or dissatisfied. That's why in these midterm
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elections, the party in power tends to lose seats and lose a lot of them. And Megan on the racism thing,
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people might be talking about racism on the left. I'm in Los Angeles and, uh, there were three
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members of the LA city council on a leak tape. They were, they were Latina all talking about how
00:22:09.420
they're going to suppress the black vote, making horrific statements about Jews, about even fellow
00:22:13.700
Mexicans, uh, and, and about whites. And so I think a lot of people feel that, um, this business of
00:22:19.780
America being systemically racist, uh, is something that, um, not just a white, uh, Christian male
00:22:26.200
Republicans are guilty of, but also people on the left are guilty of. And again, I think people are sick
00:22:30.560
of it. You can't have a vice, a president, uh, named Barack Obama reelected with the worst economic
00:22:36.040
recovery since 1949, uh, getting a higher percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did four years
00:22:40.980
earlier and still talk about how racist America is. It's not going to fly.
00:22:45.360
What do you make of the wrong track? That's basically the right track, wrong track. How are
00:22:48.420
things going? 73% say they're angry or dissatisfied. I guess how many are enthusiastic about the way things
00:22:54.120
are going? 5%. 5%. And of course, Joe, Joe Biden, his popularity is in the forties. You put the wrong
00:23:02.460
track, uh, and his popularity, uh, and again, gas prices up a hundred percent since we, since he took
00:23:07.400
office, uh, inflation highest it's been since 40 years. You add it all up. It's not good. And because
00:23:13.280
Biden was in charge of government, uh, the Senate, uh, and the house, it means Democrats were able to do
00:23:18.660
pretty much what they wanted to do. And here are the results. Uh, it's not quite as bad as California
00:23:23.400
or the Senate and the assembly are super majority Democrats. But the point is when the Democrats are
00:23:28.580
in complete control, this is what happens. Tax, spend, regulate, inflation, bad news.
00:23:34.840
Yeah. I mean, the numbers are actually dreadful and that really does explain what's happening today
00:23:39.060
when you have that and you have, uh, 34% of the electorate today, 65 or older, compare that with
00:23:46.400
just 22% back in 2020. That's not good because the older vote tends to go Republican. I mean, this is
00:23:52.740
just a fact, more young people would be better for the Democrats, more older voters would be better
00:23:57.320
for the Republicans. And every year the Democrats try to chase that youth vote. Like it's going to be
00:24:02.660
their, you know, their savior. And every year the young people disappoint them. And especially in a
00:24:08.020
midterm, it tends to be old people to old people who care about politics and get out there and vote.
00:24:11.800
But that doesn't stop them from trying. I'm in LA. There's a suburb of LA called Culver City. Believe
00:24:16.860
it or not, there's a proposition to lower the voting age to 16. Uh, and if you look at the polls,
00:24:21.900
people who are 16 years old, 17 years old, they tend to be more left-wing than their parents.
00:24:25.760
That's why they're doing it in order to hold onto power.
00:24:28.040
Um, I'm getting a question for you from one of our YouTube viewers, Robert Neal, who asks, uh,
00:24:33.860
ask Larry, if you will run again, maybe from mayor of LA, how about mayor of LA?
00:24:39.000
Well, there's a very interesting mayoral race going on right now between Karen Bass,
00:24:42.840
a longtime Democrat and Rick Caruso, who was a longtime Republican. Then all of a sudden,
00:24:46.960
before he registered to, uh, run for mayor, he switched over to, uh, to Democrat. He is a
00:24:51.940
multi-billionaire who's outspent his opponent 10 to one. He spent a hundred million dollars of his own
00:24:57.180
money and it narrowed the gap, but he's still down by about four or five points. Last I checked,
00:25:01.760
as far as myself is concerned, uh, I am thinking about running for something else, but it's not
00:25:06.440
going to be, um, California. It's going to be something a little bit bigger. Uh, I'm, uh,
00:25:10.940
been spending a lot of time in Iowa, Megan, and in New Hampshire. Uh, and you know why those two
00:25:16.040
states are important. I haven't made a decision yet, but sometime next year I will, and I'm giving it
00:25:20.460
strong consideration, not because I want to displace Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis. I think they're both
00:25:25.040
great people. And I, and I love Donald Trump, ran for him, ran with him, uh, rather campaigned with
00:25:31.680
him, supported him, and certainly will enthusiastically support him in the event that
00:25:34.920
he becomes a nominee. And I suspect he will. I'm going to talk about some of the other things you
00:25:39.280
and I've been talking about, which is the demise of the nuclear intact family and this BS about
00:25:44.520
systemic racism. And I think I could talk about those things in a compelling way that maybe some
00:25:48.860
of the other Republican candidates cannot. Wait. So our audience member, Robert Neal has broken a
00:25:53.660
little news with you here, Larry. It's not just LA mayor, which might be on the table. It's a
00:25:58.040
presidential challenge, even in the GOP primary, even if Donald Trump runs, would you actually
00:26:02.840
challenge him? Even if Donald Trump runs, when I ran for governor here, I didn't say one negative
00:26:07.780
thing about any of my Republican rivals. Unfortunately, they did not return the favor,
00:26:11.900
but no, I'm not going to say anything negative about these guys. I'm going to talk about all the
00:26:15.860
issues we talked about tonight, the inflation, uh, the gas prices, this, this war against oil and gas,
00:26:21.020
the poorest borders, but also the fact that the welfare state has incentivized women to marry the
00:26:25.620
government and incentivize men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility. And now 40%
00:26:30.320
of kids born today in America enter the world without a father married to the mother. 70% of
00:26:34.440
black kids do. Half of Hispanic kids do. 25% of white kids do. It is a national scandal that neither
00:26:39.780
party, in my opinion, is spending very much time talking about. And the other thing is about systemic
00:26:43.520
racism. It is a lie. It's pitting each other against each other. It's causing cops to pull back. It's
00:26:48.960
called the Ferguson effect or the George Floyd effect. And the people that are killed most because
00:26:52.800
of the excess deaths are black and brown people living in the inner city. And we need to talk a
00:26:57.240
lot more about that. My father never knew his biological father. So it's not a death sentence.
00:27:01.440
He grew up dirt poor, uh, eighth grade education, uh, clean toilets, two full-time jobs doing that.
00:27:07.320
Megan fast forward, he started a little cafe. My dad retires in his early eighties. And when he retired,
00:27:11.960
his net worth was close to a little bit under a million dollars. And my father was a Patriot,
00:27:15.940
a Republican, a Christian, and he believed in hard work. And he would not let my brothers and
00:27:20.500
me whine about anything at all, given the comparison between our circumstance and the
00:27:25.720
circumstance he grew up in Athens, Georgia during the Jim Crow South. So the fact that you have young
00:27:30.020
people running around talking about systemic racism to me is an abomination. And we ought to
00:27:33.820
be talking more about that and tell them to knock it off, invest in yourself, work hard, get an
00:27:37.880
education. Don't have a kid before you're 20 years old, get married first, get a job, keep a job,
00:27:42.300
don't quit the job, avoid the criminal justice system. You will not be poor.
00:27:47.100
Larry Elder. So great to talk to you. Thank you so much for being here tonight. We'll continue to
00:27:51.480
follow your own hat in what race it's, it gets thrown into, whether it's mayoral or presidential.
00:28:00.660
Just to update you guys again, uh, that, that lawsuit that we told you about that Harmeet Dillon
00:28:05.060
filed on behalf of Carrie Lake and others in, uh, Arizona has been rejected by a Maricopa County
00:28:11.580
judge, uh, saying that there was no one who had been denied a ballot that no one's vote was not,
00:28:18.180
uh, counted as a result. So that put a little check Mark next to that, just in case it gets
00:28:23.540
really tight in Arizona. Uh, we've got a few more race calls coming in CNN projecting Sarah Huckabee
00:28:29.760
Sanders, the one-time press secretary and communications director for former president Trump
00:28:34.540
will win Arkansas's gubernatorial race. How about that? God, she took so much incoming. They were so nasty
00:28:40.380
to her. Of course, her dad, Mike Huckabee, uh, became a star as the governor of, uh, that same
00:28:46.200
state. And so it's nice to see, uh, the daughter take the baton CBS news projecting Republican
00:28:51.080
Marjorie Taylor green will win reelection defeating democratic challenger Marcus flowers. They called
00:28:55.620
that early and quickly CNN projecting democratic Congresswoman Cori Bush will win reelection for
00:29:01.320
Missouri's first congressional district race. Another squad member is safe. That's how we get members
00:29:06.440
of the squad because they run in very, very, very blue areas in which those politics are celebrated
00:29:12.040
and are not problematic. CNN, speaking of the squad, also projecting Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio
00:29:17.860
Cortez will win reelection as well in New York's 14th as expected. So we are keeping a close tab on the
00:29:24.320
house where despite Cori Bush and AOC winning Democrats appear to be panicking about low turnout in
00:29:32.480
certain states, including Virginia. Helping us analyze breaking news all night is my pal, Jim
00:29:37.340
Garrity. He's the senior political correspondent for national review. His newsletter morning jolt is a
00:29:42.680
must read, especially during election season. And he's also from Virginia. So Jim, you're the perfect
00:29:47.900
man to talk to about low turnout there. Is it true? And what else are you watching right now?
00:29:53.380
I would say now, you know, when that was written, that may have been the case. And I was hearing from
00:29:57.960
Virginia Democratic analysts and strategists who were like, wow, we are not seeing the morning
00:30:02.760
numbers we wanted to see. As of this, worth noting in Virginia, the only race that was on the ballot
00:30:09.180
was house races. There was no Senate race. We took care of our governor's race last year with Glenn
00:30:14.500
Youngkin. That is basically, you know, if you're a Democratic congressman who was swept in in the wave
00:30:21.540
of 2018, sustained by the presidential turnout of 2020. This year, you were on your own. And I think
00:30:27.600
Republicans thought they had shots in three races this year. Right now, the networks are calling two
00:30:32.900
of them for Democrats. And it's kind of frustrating. Spanberger and Wexton. Wexton was going up against
00:30:38.240
Hung Chao, who I thought was one of the best candidates of the cycle. This is a fair, you know,
00:30:42.660
this is also post redistricting. These districts became a little less friendly for Republicans than they
00:30:47.880
had been before. But they thought they had a shot. And it looks like Hung Chao is going to be like,
00:30:52.360
you know, within three points, a very respectable margin. That's Virginia 10. You know, pretty heavily
00:30:56.880
Biden district. But the projection is that Wexton will be reelected. So I'm surprised about that.
00:31:03.200
Although honestly, the vote count I saw had her ahead. I don't think we have a Florida 2000
00:31:09.280
circumstance here. But, you know, keep an eye on that race. Then finally, the last one, which was down
00:31:14.780
in Newport News and is kind of the second congressional district, this is one of the districts that is
00:31:20.840
like, if not the swingiest in the country, it's probably in the top 10 or 15. Republican Jen Kiggins
00:31:27.180
has a lead of 55% to 44% over Elaine Luria. Looks like Republicans will get that one. I got to say,
00:31:34.320
though, based on this, and it looks like an early decision in Rhode Island's second district where Alan
00:31:39.600
Fung looks like he was going to make a competitive race in Rhode Island, which you don't usually see
00:31:45.300
all that often or any of the New England states, really. It looks like Magazine or the Democrat has
00:31:50.300
won that open seat race. So I think you can now say, based on what we've seen, it's 930. It's not.
00:31:56.560
It's fairly early. But I don't think the gargantuan red wave is occurring. I think you might get a
00:32:02.060
medium-sized red wave. These were the, you know, Virginia 10th, New Orleans 2nd. These were the seats
00:32:08.180
where, like, if you're a Republican and you really got the wind at your back, that's when you're like,
00:32:12.020
ah, we can get those. Looks like Republicans have fallen a little short on that. Still a lot of
00:32:16.980
competitive races out there. And I still think it's fairly obvious that Republicans will win the House.
00:32:21.240
Now they're looking at a, you know, 20-some seat majority, maybe low 30-something, rather than the
00:32:27.500
40-seat and 50-seat numbers that I saw people throwing around earlier.
00:32:31.540
They only need six. So, well, I mean, five, six. But they, so they're, I mean, we're still looking at a
00:32:36.580
likely GOP takeover of the House. But the question is, by what margin and how empowered would a Speaker
00:32:41.320
McCarthy be to reject sort of the more tribal base of the party? Would they, would he, could he reject
00:32:47.900
them on their agenda? Or would he be more beholden to them if he only has a small lead in terms of the
00:32:55.480
numbers? So we'll see. We'll see. But how are you feeling so far about the Senate, given what we've
00:33:00.680
seen so far? And I realize it's so early. I hate trying to make projections based on partial vote,
00:33:05.600
especially when we all know that the earliest vote that comes in is the mail vote, which tends
00:33:10.040
to be heavily Democratic. So it's all, it does feel mirage-y.
00:33:13.980
Yeah, I was going to say that I think so far in the night, there are two big stories or two big
00:33:18.040
surprises. Look, we all knew that Ron DeSantis was going to win Florida. We all knew there was a
00:33:22.820
really good chance Marco Rubio was going to win his reelection bid. Rubio, last I checked, was up by 15
00:33:28.460
percentage points. And DeSantis was up by 19 percentage points, right? So the story, you know, I saw you
00:33:33.660
talking about this with Tom Bevin earlier, you know, Florida is now not just like, it's a crimson
00:33:39.300
state. It is an intensely red state. And I think if you're Republicans thinking about the 2024
00:33:43.720
presidential, you know, bid, a guy who can clean up in that state like Ron DeSantis looks really
00:33:48.860
appealing right now. I think the interesting contrast is that we haven't seen this necessarily
00:33:53.220
in lots of other states. It looks like Ted Budd is going to win in North Carolina. I don't see too
00:33:59.160
much Republicans panicking about that, but it doesn't look like a terribly big margin. The
00:34:02.980
Republicans I'm hearing are not panicking about J.D. Vance. I think that, you know, they think he
00:34:07.900
finishes on top, but it's not going to be a terribly wide margin. It looks like he may have underperformed
00:34:12.700
a bit. It's kind of too early to tell in a bunch of these other states. Don Bolduc up in New Hampshire.
00:34:18.900
Now, look, they've only counted a little bit of the vote out there, but Democrats are saying they think
00:34:22.980
Senator Hassan is holding on there. You know, time will tell, but I don't think you've seen, you saw
00:34:28.460
a huge Republican wave in Florida that is not being mimicked in other places. Now, it doesn't mean
00:34:33.400
Republicans aren't going to win, but I think maybe, you know, Republicans are going to look at the
00:34:37.080
results, at least as we've seen so far, and be slightly disappointed. Not, you know, oh, this is
00:34:42.000
terrible, but just a recognition of, okay, we did not hit that gargantuan red tsunami, red tidal wave
00:34:48.740
that we were, you know, like visions of sugar plums dancing the heads in the final days of the
00:34:53.500
election. Yeah. Well, we were looking, going in to see whether it would be a tidal wave. It would
00:34:58.100
just be like a normal wave that you could surf, or it would just be a little, like a little puddle,
00:35:02.920
like a little tiny, teeny, tiny wave that you would still put your little two-year-old in the
00:35:06.860
ocean with. So any of those, I think, would be acceptable to the Republicans, so long as they win
00:35:12.300
control of at least one body of Congress. But they prefer, of course, the tsunami. So far,
00:35:17.000
we don't have a tsunami. And you're questioning whether it's too early to call that Spamburger
00:35:21.800
race, because some have called it for her. Yeah, I mean, I have no reason to think that,
00:35:26.240
you know, this is some grandiose effort to call it too early or something. Just the last time I
00:35:31.980
had checked that the Republican was ahead there. One other point, I guess we should point out for
00:35:35.900
the House is they redistricted, they redrewed the district lines in Florida, just tried to get a
00:35:40.500
couple of districts that, you know, Biden had actually won to be a little more Republican leaning.
00:35:44.600
And it looks like all Republicans won all three of those districts. Now, as you mentioned at the
00:35:48.600
beginning, when you need six and you can pick up three in one state, you're probably doing pretty
00:35:52.320
good. Yeah, your odds are pretty good. Jim, we will be back to you in just a bit. Thank you so much.
00:35:57.000
And don't be a stranger if you get news. Governor DeSantis, as we mentioned, won the state of
00:36:01.940
Florida. He just gave his victory speech after being the projected winner over Democrat Charlie
00:36:05.920
Crist, saying, we chose facts over fear, education over indoctrination. Today, after four years,
00:36:13.000
the people have delivered their verdict. Freedom is here to stay. Joining me now,
00:36:18.280
Emily Jashinsky is she's culture editor at The Federalist and Ryan Grimm, who is the DC bureau
00:36:23.800
chief for The Intercept. Together, they co-host the newly launched show Counterpoints. Thank you
00:36:30.660
both so much for being here. So that's, you know, I'm glad to hear him talk about education over
00:36:35.420
indoctrination because he's been fighting some of the culture wars that are important to a lot of us,
00:36:39.760
especially parents who have been trying to fight back against these woke agendas in our schools and
00:36:44.720
actually just forgetting that getting them into the schools has been a bonus in states like Florida
00:36:50.220
over the past two years. So, Emily, let me start with you. What do you think of what we've seen
00:36:58.040
I think right now it's going pretty much exactly as expected. I'm looking at Georgia, Texas and Florida.
00:37:05.040
One of the most interesting races we've seen so far has been a race that everyone expected the
00:37:10.620
candidate who won to win, but one that I think the margin is very telling in and could be very
00:37:16.440
positive for Republicans. And that would be Florida's 27th. That's where Maria Elvira Salazar
00:37:21.380
cruised to reelection. I'm looking at the margins here in front of me in my notes. It was a big one.
00:37:27.160
I mean, you could basically call this a blowout for her. That's a district that Daily Cost goes and
00:37:32.200
looks at, you know, how districts have been redrawn and whether or not Trump or Biden would
00:37:37.280
have won. The Daily Cost estimate is that that was like a razor thin margin, barely for Trump.
00:37:42.340
And Maria Elvira Salazar won it by double digits. That's in Miami. And so that's something that you
00:37:48.960
can see the Cuban vote, at least. If not, maybe that speaks more broadly for the Hispanic vote. And
00:37:53.820
that's where when we look at Texas, I want to see what the margins look like in the 34th. That's
00:38:00.120
where Myra Flores is running. She's a congresswoman right now. She is up for reelection. If that's a
00:38:05.580
big margin, that's another really positive sign for Republicans going forward, not just tonight.
00:38:11.020
So in Georgia, you know, Herschel Walker needs to clear a 50 percent threshold, inching closer to
00:38:16.840
that. It's a tight margin. But as more and more votes come in, if he hits that 50 percent threshold,
00:38:22.340
he doesn't have to go to a runoff. But in the bigger picture question of where things go after
00:38:26.860
tonight, whether or not we are witnessing a political real realignment, I would still encourage
00:38:31.120
folks to be looking at Florida and Texas in particular. Brian, the strength of abortion as
00:38:39.200
an issue amongst these exit polls is, I have to say, it's surprising to me. 32 percent saying
00:38:45.600
inflation is their number one, 27 percent saying it's abortion. They trust the Democrats to handle
00:38:50.840
that more than the Republicans by 52 to 42. Inflation obviously affecting a lot more people.
00:38:59.380
And on that, they were they trust the Republicans. But I suppose this could this could be influencing
00:39:04.200
how some of these races are tighter than we would be seeing if we were expecting full tsunami.
00:39:10.640
Yeah, I never quite understood why people thought that the issue of abortion would just
00:39:16.440
kind of be a thing that was like in the news. Oh, the Supreme Court did that thing. That was a while
00:39:22.360
ago. And now we're all moving on from that because people are getting pregnant constantly. Like this is
00:39:28.880
this is an issue that has been with us for 50 years. Trust the science. Trust the science. People are still
00:39:34.960
getting pregnant, believe it or not. And abortion rights still matter to people, whether or not it's
00:39:40.040
like on the front page of The New York Times. In fact, we pull these up here, like in both Kentucky and
00:39:45.900
Michigan, it looks like abortion rights are going to win. This is it's early. But with more than half
00:39:51.160
the votes counted in Kentucky, that amendment is up by nine points. So that the no, it's no in
00:39:58.220
Kentucky. They were trying to put abortion ban into the Constitution. Looks like Kentucky voters are
00:40:03.620
going to reject that. Well, it could it could surge around, but I doubt it. And in Michigan, it's up by 13
00:40:10.760
points right now. So both places, you know, where it was, it's also on the ballot in California that
00:40:16.620
that one's not in doubt. But to see it in Kentucky, I think, you know, fits with the data that you're
00:40:22.320
seeing there. And the only thing I'd add, I'd quibble with you on something you said earlier with
00:40:26.660
Larry, which is that they always hope that young people show up and they never do. Young people very
00:40:31.140
much showed up in 2018. And that was like the backbone of the of the blue wave in 2018.
00:40:37.840
We don't know yet what youth turnout is going to look like. And I think there is a link between
00:40:43.400
abortion rights and youth turnout, too. It's not just women like this is this is something that for all
00:40:49.320
people under 4030 that is, I think, resonates more than than with older, more conservative voters.
00:40:56.480
Well, I have to laugh. I mean, after the after Dobbs came out and you saw all the guys at Barstool
00:41:01.400
Sports speaking out like this is an outrage, a little on the nose, guys. So so, OK, young people
00:41:09.120
could, in fact, turn, although in the midterm elections, it'd be very shocking to see a huge
00:41:12.680
young person turnout. That's not that is that would definitely be atypical. But we'll we'll find out.
00:41:19.100
I do wonder, though, about these economic numbers, because they're so bad for the Republicans
00:41:25.300
that my instincts tell me as the night goes on, these numbers are going to get stronger and stronger
00:41:29.600
for the GOP. And what we're seeing now, you know how they talked about the red mirage, we're kind
00:41:34.000
of we might be seeing a blue mirage, not that they're showing that they're winning, but they're
00:41:39.880
showing greater strength and they're going to wind up with, Emily, because all the mail in ballots
00:41:44.760
are what's been counted first. And those tend to go blue. Right. I think what we're learning right
00:41:50.260
now is whether the difference is going to be it's a good night for Republicans, a predictable
00:41:54.600
night in a bad economy with an unpopular president or a great night that's sort of buoyed by the
00:42:00.940
fact that you have realignments happening, perhaps in Democratic areas with heavy Hispanic
00:42:05.740
voters where you're seeing marginal but significant shifts in the black vote, particularly the black
00:42:10.420
mail vote. Wisconsin is a state to watch for that. What happens in Milwaukee is a state to
00:42:15.120
watch for is a place to watch for that. And that's we don't have any idea what's going to
00:42:20.040
happen there. And we won't for the next hour or so. So the difference between good and
00:42:24.880
great is really significant. I think in this case, particularly because it bodes for, you
00:42:29.520
know, whether or not it's politics as usual, or a realignment, whether the real alignment
00:42:34.340
is real and significant and showing up in elections, not just in sort of the media navel gazing
00:42:40.600
chatter, but actually showing up in the polls. So I think we still have a couple hours to go
00:42:46.100
until we know whether or not this election is evidence of that. What do we make of the exit
00:42:51.640
polls showing Ryan 68% to two thirds of midterm voters do not want to see Biden run again? My God,
00:42:59.500
that number. That's those are numbers that you get when Democrats agree with Republicans. I mean,
00:43:05.340
you know, basically every Republican, except I bet it would be even higher if it weren't for
00:43:11.360
a significant number of Republicans. So I suspect answered that question because they think he'd
00:43:16.380
be beatable. It's like, like, you'd have a lot of Democrats actually, who say, Hey, do you want
00:43:21.840
Trump to want to do you want Trump to run 2024? And you'd have a significant chunk, you'd be like,
00:43:27.980
yeah, because I think that he is the only Republican that could lose in 2024. And so in a poll like that,
00:43:34.360
you would mistake those kind of partisan, clever answers to that poll as people who actually support.
00:43:40.900
So I think the numbers would are actually worse for Biden than, than, than that.
00:43:47.700
I mean, all the numbers here for him are terrible direction of the country. The gas numbers,
00:43:54.140
the economy numbers, and so on, how angry the electorate is 73% angry or dissatisfied with how
00:44:00.820
he's doing. So he's going to be watching this. And I do think tomorrow, even if the Republicans only win
00:44:06.060
the house, we're going to start to see the pieces about how Joe Biden needs to go. The problem for them
00:44:10.160
is there's no heir apparent. There's not, there's, you know, Emily, I don't know who they go to. I
00:44:15.260
don't, I don't sense a push, like a push in this electorate to see the Democrats go farther left.
00:44:21.320
And that would be Gavin Newsom, right? Kamala Harris. I think we all know she can't do it.
00:44:27.000
So I really do wonder, given these, this terrible verdict for Joe Biden, what the Democrats do tomorrow
00:44:32.260
after they realize they've lost at least the house of representatives.
00:44:35.580
You know, I think they continue to spin. And this puts me back in those days after Donald Trump won
00:44:41.140
the election in 2016. And I thought to myself, well, if the host of Celebrity Apprentice winning
00:44:46.660
the presidency over the former secretary of state doesn't shake the media and the political
00:44:51.520
establishment into some form of self-correction, then literally nothing will. And they flirted with
00:44:57.780
it for a couple of days. And then, you know, it was Russia collusion within a few months of that.
00:45:02.400
And what we saw was everybody sort of going in the other direction. And I think we've already
00:45:07.340
seen evidence of that. I mean, we've seen evidence already of people in the sort of
00:45:12.700
chattering space, whether they're pundits or professional Democrats. You've had some,
00:45:18.600
you know, introspection, Hillary Rosen on CNN saying she wasn't happy with the race Democrats
00:45:22.920
won this cycle. But you're also already seeing Stacey Abrams, for instance, blame disinformation.
00:45:27.400
We've seen that happen in Florida and Texas. Democrats blaming disinformation for losses
00:45:32.160
with Hispanic votes. And we've already seen intimidation and other things invoked by people
00:45:37.380
like Rachel Maddow just tonight. And so I think it's going to continue to be the lack of self-introspection
00:45:44.180
that really hurts Democrats going forward. And I think that ends up, you end up keeping Joe Biden
00:45:49.020
in a situation like that because you're blaming phantom bigotry and phantom X, Y, and Z without ever
00:45:56.260
really grappling with those problems, unless you're at like third way or these sort of centrist places.
00:46:00.800
Right. You actually want to take an honest look at it. Well, I'm I mean, I'm sure the Washington
00:46:05.360
Post will get its list of election deniers going again tomorrow in the wake of the results tonight,
00:46:11.420
just so we can be sure that we have accountability on on both sides. Ryan Grimm,
00:46:15.940
Emily Jastensky, it's great to see you both. Thank you so much for being here.
00:46:54.000
Yeah, that's right. You know, the polls had this about a five or six point race. And so that's why
00:47:00.560
I think Republicans thought, OK, if we get a big wave, it'll be in play. Not happening.
00:47:07.100
You know, Washington is the other one that was polls had that even closer, a three or four point
00:47:13.480
race. Now, those votes are still out. I mean, they haven't even started counting in Washington state.
00:47:17.460
Polls haven't been closer yet. So that remains to be seen. But overall, it looks like that big wave
00:47:23.100
for Republicans in in the in the House and the Senate is it's not the dream is not going to happen.
00:47:30.440
It's not going to be, you know, 50 seats in the House and five or six seats in the Senate.
00:47:34.820
It's going to be less than that. And it looks like Republicans are still going to take the House.
00:47:40.160
And, you know, you look at some of these Senate races, they're close. The numbers continue to move.
00:47:44.900
Republicans. J.D. Vance is slightly ahead in Ohio. Ted Budd is ahead in North Carolina.
00:47:49.740
The Herschel Walker race is about a, you know, I think last. Let's see what we have here right now.
00:47:57.020
We've got it at Warnock's forty nine point five. Walker's forty eight point six. So it's less than a
00:48:03.840
point away. And both of them, again, got to remember if they don't if neither of them get to 50,
00:48:08.980
we're doing this again in a month. How much reporting six. So so how much is reporting?
00:48:14.560
What percentage of the vote is in what percentage of the vote is in what percentage of the vote is in
00:48:18.620
in Georgia? Seventy three. Seventy three. OK, so you still got, you know, twenty seven percent of
00:48:24.240
the vote out again. Don't know exactly where that is or who that's going to benefit in the end. So
00:48:29.680
it's going to be really, real close. All right. So that's what you're seeing, Georgia. That's not
00:48:33.400
a surprise. Right. Nobody was projecting on any side that it would be some decisive victory by
00:48:37.280
one or the other. What about Pennsylvania now? Because I'm sure these Republicans who are I mean,
00:48:42.040
look, Colorado, losing Colorado does not change the entire forecast for the GOP. They haven't lost
00:48:47.840
one of their big states that they needed to hold or that they were hoping for as a reach state.
00:48:54.120
But what's so what's happening so far in Pennsylvania? What's happening in Arizona?
00:48:57.800
What's happening in Nevada? What's happening in New Hampshire?
00:49:01.300
Yeah. So Pennsylvania, we got thirty two percent reporting and Fetterman's up fifty four to forty
00:49:06.340
three. So now that number was I mean, when we started, it was eighty three to nineteen.
00:49:11.080
So, you know, they're starting to count some some of the in-person vote today.
00:49:16.400
And Oz is obviously closing that gap. I expect it will continue to close again.
00:49:20.360
A ton of vote left to count out there. We don't have anything going on in Arizona at the moment.
00:49:27.300
We don't have anything going on in Nevada at the moment.
00:49:30.960
And you look at New Hampshire and they've got about thirty three percent of the vote in right
00:49:35.280
now. Maggie Hassan's up 18 points on on Bulldog. So, again, a lot of votes still to be counted in
00:49:41.600
that state as well. Yeah. Thirty three percent of the vote there. I saw something suggesting that she
00:49:46.320
was outperforming Hillary in some of these districts. I don't know that that tells us much.
00:49:53.840
It's not that, you know, Hillary did so great. She did win the popular vote, but she didn't win the
00:49:58.380
election. But is there anything in the tea leaves now? Because you stay farther east. We can actually
00:50:02.900
look at more tea leaves. We know more about the vote. We know more about the early vote tallies
00:50:06.180
out west. We're waiting for people to finish up. Right. So any tea leaves in New Hampshire?
00:50:12.040
No, I mean, just remember, though, when Hillary ran in twenty sixteen, it was a very close state,
00:50:16.440
not so much in twenty twenty. Joe Biden won it by about seven and a half points. Again, you have
00:50:20.500
Chris Sununu on the top of the ticket. Popular incumbent Republican governor gets a lot of votes. But
00:50:26.080
this was a late primary. It happened in September. It was a fairly divisive primary
00:50:30.080
and Bulldog wins. And Sununu comes out and says, you know, I'm not voting for him. I won't endorse
00:50:35.060
him. You know, called him, I think, you know, bad names, election denier, all that. And so
00:50:41.480
that, I think, is might have put a damper on his numbers, even though he was able to close at the
00:50:46.860
end. We'll see how many crossover votes there were in this race. But that could end up being the
00:50:50.880
difference. Hmm. Tom, we will be back to you soon, I hope. Joining me now, author and journalist
00:50:57.260
Barry Weiss. Barry edits the Substack newsletter Common Sense, and she hosts the podcast Honestly.
00:51:03.980
Barry's fired up about The New York Times tips for readers on how to deal with this
00:51:07.340
election results. I can't get enough. I'm here with my weighted blanket. Yeah, I don't know if you
00:51:12.860
saw it. The New York Times offered five ways to soothe election stress, which includes tips like
00:51:19.400
plunge your face into a bowl of ice water for 15 to 30 seconds. Maybe I'll do that. Breathe like a baby
00:51:26.380
was one of them. Another was something called five finger breathing. I live in LA. So you would
00:51:31.900
imagine that I would know what that is. But, you know, I'm expecting them to update this with whatever,
00:51:37.860
whatever the next recommendation will be, maybe hot milk and cookies for the millions of Americans
00:51:44.980
who are terrified by what they are seeing tonight. This reminds me after Trump won when our schools in
00:51:50.700
New York City at the time and so many others around the country gave the kids a day off. They were like,
00:51:55.860
oh, my God. And of course, everyone's going to leave school to go to the Women's March and everyone
00:52:00.140
needs counseling. It was just a presumption that you were distraught and that your child needed therapy
00:52:04.560
going into tonight, understanding that it was very likely the Republicans were going to take at least
00:52:08.740
the House. They knew what their needed, their readers needed. I would venture to say they're
00:52:12.620
exactly right, Barry. Yeah. I mean, red wave, red tsunami, red trickle. I suspect many people
00:52:18.540
are going to be calling in for mental health days across the coast of this country.
00:52:22.820
Right. And and we'll become election deniers like that. You wait, it's gonna be fun. I'm going to tell
00:52:27.580
my team first thing in the morning, get the tapes ready, get like, let's see who does it. And let's get
00:52:31.420
the hypocritical tapes going. One of the things that watching cable yet, but I'm going to do that
00:52:36.140
after. Yeah, exactly. We'll compile this out and you'll see and you can use them. One of the big
00:52:41.760
issues that we're looking at tonight, though, it's not it's not the top issue like inflation and it's
00:52:45.960
not the second issue, which is abortion is crime. The voters do care about crime. And that was
00:52:51.980
reflected in the polls. It's got it's basically tied with gun policy coming in at 12 percent care about
00:52:57.740
that as one of their most important issues. So it goes inflation, abortion, crime, gun policy and
00:53:02.660
immigration coming at a 10. That was a little earlier in the evening that might have been
00:53:06.320
updated since then. Crime has been something that Dr. Oz ran on big time in Pennsylvania to tighten
00:53:14.200
that those numbers when he was getting killed by Fetterman in the polls. We saw it in Michigan where
00:53:19.920
Tudor Dixon was trying to take aim at Governor Whitmer. We've seen it in state after state where
00:53:25.520
you you know, the more sort of reddish candidates have said this Democrat is soft on crime and they
00:53:31.860
are to blame for the numbers. How big a factor do you think that is tonight? And what do you think
00:53:35.700
is happening? I mean, do you think it's the reason Lee Zeldin even had a chance coming into today?
00:53:40.760
Exactly right. I think I think of states like New York, Oregon, not states that you think of as being
00:53:46.960
up for grabs in any way at all. And yet somehow they're in play. Right. In New York, you have
00:53:52.060
Republican Lee Zeldin running against incumbent Kathy Hochul. And the entire time he's recently
00:53:58.300
running on crime. And she's saying, I don't know what you're talking about. You'll remember in the
00:54:02.720
debate between the two of them, she said something like, I don't know why you care so much about that.
00:54:07.420
I can't quite think of a of a clip that would be more out of touch with voters. And then a few days
00:54:11.960
ago in an interview outside of the subway, she was asked about safety riding the subway. And of course,
00:54:17.040
there have been a spate of just unbelievably horrific attacks often being carried out by people with
00:54:21.940
multiple previous counts. And she said that Zeldin was hyperventilating about crime. Now,
00:54:29.620
all major crimes, with the exception of murder, are up in New York City right now. And you know,
00:54:35.120
it's bad when Stephanie Rule on MSNBC, this happened a few days ago, was interviewing Kathy
00:54:40.500
Hochul. And she said, we don't feel safe. I don't go on the subway. She talked about going into
00:54:47.120
Rite Aid and CVS is and it's this is the case in L.A. This is the case in San Francisco. This is the
00:54:51.680
case in parts of New York. And not just having the razors behind lock and key, but having basic
00:54:57.320
necessities like toothbrushes and toothpaste and tampons, because that's how regular shoplifting
00:55:04.340
has gotten in places like New York City. Now, in Oregon, it's it's a sort of similar story,
00:55:09.420
right? You don't think of Oregon as a place where a pro-life, pro-gun rights candidate for governor
00:55:15.700
would even have a chance. Right. And yet Christine Drazen is in a dead heat in the race for governor.
00:55:21.700
And there's a reason for that. We just ran an excellent piece on our Substack Common Sense by
00:55:26.300
Leighton Woodhouse, who went to Portland, not exactly known as a MAGA stronghold, and talked to all of
00:55:31.920
these liberals and Democrats who are saying, basically, I'm voting for her. And the reason I'm
00:55:37.200
voting for her, even though I'm pro-life, I'm sorry, even though I'm pro-choice,
00:55:40.580
even though I'm a lifelong Democrat, even though I'm gay, you know, and she put out an ad to this
00:55:45.500
effect, is simply because the city has become unlivable because of crime, because of homelessness,
00:55:52.460
because of basically drug policies that have allowed for just for open use. People talk about
00:55:58.040
the city being in shambles, how they're scared, men and women, to walk alone at night in the streets
00:56:03.620
of Portland. So as much as Democrats wanted to sort of run this election on questions of, you know,
00:56:10.120
democracy being in peril for people who are living in neighborhoods where I'm speaking of mine right
00:56:16.120
now, catalytic converters are getting stolen out of people's cars on a regular basis. You know,
00:56:20.900
that just rates higher than things like democracy and abstract issue or climate change for people.
00:56:27.160
Do you think in the in the way that the last go round, the tape of of Abigail Spanberger down in
00:56:34.940
Virginia went viral? It got leaked of her talking to her Democratic colleagues saying this defund the
00:56:40.380
police stuff is toxic. We cannot go forward on this messaging. And that was brave because it was,
00:56:47.220
you know, that was 2020 that she said that now or two years later. And you still you still have
00:56:52.940
some of these races being dictated by messaging like that. Mandela Barnes against Ron Johnson in
00:56:58.680
Wisconsin. He's a defund the policer, the Democrat Mandela. He's he's a no bail guy. Kathy Hochul has
00:57:05.320
been dealing with the no bail policies here in New York. In New York City, they took away money from
00:57:10.140
the police before they then quietly said, oh, shoot, that was a bad idea. Here it is back again.
00:57:14.440
So I wonder whether at a minimum this election is going to put an end to that nonsense once and for
00:57:20.120
all. I really hope so. I mean, I think the convenient thing and the thing that we'll surely be hearing on
00:57:25.440
many of the cable stations tonight, you know, is that. The Democrats had a messaging problem or,
00:57:32.860
you know, the spin about disinformation and misinformation and the things that I'm sure
00:57:36.560
are already being said on those networks. But I think it's really simple. You know, people this
00:57:42.040
election was about people being totally dissatisfied with the direction of the country, dissatisfied with
00:57:48.260
the economy, dissatisfied with crime. Many women dissatisfied with the repeal of Roe v. Wade. But
00:57:54.540
again, that's a real issue. These are real issues that affect actual people's lives. And you could
00:58:00.440
imagine, you know, what would have happened if Democrats in some of these places had said,
00:58:04.740
you're right, take an accountability for things like rising crime, take an accountability for the
00:58:09.780
price of gas, take an accountability for and we haven't mentioned this yet, COVID lockdowns,
00:58:16.520
right? And learning loss and the kinds of things that parents across this country are just beginning
00:58:22.120
to understand the full ramifications of. Those are the kind of people that want accountability
00:58:26.940
for their life getting worse over the past few years. And that's really what the election's about.
00:58:32.100
And, you know, for the sake of the Democratic Party, I really hope they're able to look in the
00:58:35.680
mirror and see that. Having this TikTok videos with, you know, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer
00:58:42.720
talking about people with periods rather than women is not the way to win the election.
00:58:49.100
Hmm. This is what's so annoying about an exchange that went viral from The View the other day.
00:58:56.740
Sunny Hostin said that because in the wake of the Wall Street Journal report that women,
00:59:02.700
suburban women were now favoring the GOP over the Democrats after a 27 point swing by by 15 percentage
00:59:10.680
points. And she couldn't understand it and said that is like a cockroach favoring raid.
00:59:17.680
And so finally, no one reacted to that until this week. One of her co-hosts brought it up because
00:59:26.400
virtually everybody on the right or even in the middle said, what the hell kind of comment is
00:59:31.160
that? Right. For all the reasons you just stated, there are really good reasons for women of all
00:59:37.000
persuasions, Democrat, Independent and Republican, to consider going team red this year.
00:59:42.280
And the following exchange took place. Listen, it's not five.
00:59:47.280
Last week you called white Republican women cockroach.
01:00:00.880
Second of all, what I used was a metaphor, really more an assimile.
01:00:04.700
And I said, white women, Republicans, I just read a poll that the suburbans are now voting
01:00:12.320
Republican. That is like roaches voting for raid. Now, by the way, that wasn't my joke. Let me
01:00:19.060
finish. That wasn't my joke. That was John Leguizamo's joke. It's a joke that I've used
01:00:23.900
on this show a few weeks ago. Let me finish referring to Latinos. And no one had anything
01:00:30.760
to say about it. The last thing I'll say is, I continued by saying, do they want to be
01:00:36.560
in Gilead? Do they want to lose their rights? They're voting against their first interest.
01:00:45.760
No, no, that is what you said. What you said is it's like roaches.
01:00:48.200
Then don't say that I call white women roaches.
01:00:52.340
She absolutely did. She said, white woman getting ready to pull the lever for the Republicans
01:00:59.000
are like roaches voting for raid. And her mother may, in fact, be a white woman.
01:01:05.060
But I'm going to venture a guess that she wasn't a white woman who voted Republican or votes
01:01:10.040
Republican because those are the ones Sonny hates. And all you need to do is tune into the
01:01:15.600
view for two minutes on any given day to know that.
01:01:19.520
I make it I make it a policy for myself not to watch the view. So this is the first time
01:01:23.600
that I was seeing those clips. Unsurprising. And I guess what I'll say is just the total lack
01:01:29.620
of curiosity about what might drive people of whatever race, but especially angry moms who
01:01:36.560
we saw in Virginia in the governor's race. Right. Glenn Youngkin. Why did why are so many
01:01:42.420
lifelong liberals, so many lifelong Democrats, so many women, even pro-choice women willing
01:01:49.460
to, frankly, in some cases, hold their nose and vote for the Republican? It is because
01:01:54.040
of the past few years and policies that have deeply impacted negatively their families. And I really
01:02:01.960
think that the COVID hangover is an enormous part of this for a lot of people. You know, the fact that
01:02:08.440
these parents were at home, often holding down jobs, seeing their kids not learning basic math,
01:02:14.980
basic English. And we're supposed to, what, just move on and forget that that ever happened.
01:02:21.980
Right. Elections are about accountability. Elections are about reckonings and holding the people who
01:02:28.000
put policies to account. And I think that's a lot of what's going on here. And I hope I didn't use any
01:02:34.220
similes or bad metaphors in that answer. Not that that would save you from the outrage you would
01:02:40.120
justifiably cause if you were to do what she did. Barry Weiss, so good to see you, my friend. I would
01:02:45.660
love to talk again more soon and in more depth. We will. Great to see you too, Megan. Lots of love.
01:02:50.740
All right. The New York Times Needle issuing the latest projection saying the House is leaning
01:02:55.920
Republican with a 72 percent chance of control. The Senate remains a toss up. Back with the very latest
01:03:02.600
is Jim Garrity of National Review. Jim, what's the biggest headline you're seeing right now?
01:03:07.120
Well, look, as we discussed in the last segment, Republicans are going to win the House. They
01:03:12.500
needed to not trip over their own shoelaces. And they were going to pick up seven seats.
01:03:16.980
A lot of factors working in their favor, redistricting, state of the economy.
01:03:22.480
So that's not really surprising. The only question is how big is the majority?
01:03:26.640
As I mentioned last segment, it's not going to be in that 35 to 40, the really big margin of that.
01:03:31.860
It's going to be a little bit less than that, but it's going to be sizable. And as I said,
01:03:35.280
Kevin McCarthy is going to have enough Republicans to probably have a manageable caucus starting in
01:03:40.720
January 2023. I think the outlook for Republicans in the Senate, you're looking more at like a 51,
01:03:47.280
52 majority if things break the right way, not that 53, 54 majority. I think right now,
01:03:54.180
New Hampshire is one of those states that counts the vote very slow. The polls closed at eight o'clock.
01:03:59.360
It's a little bit after 10. And I just checked. They have 25 percent of the votes that are counted.
01:04:05.680
Apparently they could really use some lessons from Florida. But Don Bolduc is down significantly.
01:04:11.720
Now this may be Maggie Hessen's parts of the state that are reporting first. I wouldn't panic yet. And
01:04:16.940
again, 75 percent of the state still has to report. So you don't want to draw any too many
01:04:21.380
far reaching conclusions from this. But I don't think even in the great scenarios, could you say,
01:04:26.760
oh, Republicans have got that one, right? That was going to be one where Bolduc was going to win
01:04:30.200
by one or two percentage points if things broke his way. Ohio, North Carolina, Wisconsin haven't
01:04:36.980
gotten calls on any of these yet. But I think they're all looking pretty Republican. Vance is
01:04:42.580
now in the lead again. Ted Budd is the lead in North Carolina. Ron Johnson had led the polls and
01:04:48.520
looks pretty good in Wisconsin. I do think in Wisconsin, they said they may not have all they were
01:04:53.380
said because of mail-in ballots and late ballots and all that other early votes that they had.
01:04:59.160
They probably wouldn't have it until early morning hours of Wednesday, possibly Wednesday
01:05:03.320
afternoon. So I think that one's Ron. Ron Johnson's got that one. But we may not know until
01:05:07.520
tomorrow. I will be here, Megan, if you'll be here.
01:05:10.120
We'll do it. Georgia, at this point, I think this is going to a runoff. Right now, that New York
01:05:16.540
Times doohickey, Herschel Walker has 49.1%. Raphael Warnock, 49%. The Libertarian Chase Oliver is
01:05:24.660
still getting just under 2%. It's very tough to hit 50 when somebody else is taking those last couple
01:05:30.320
percentage points in an evenly fought race. So good luck, Georgia. Good news, Georgia. You get to go
01:05:35.320
through this all over again. One more month of attack ads. It's like Groundhog Day. You get six
01:05:42.560
more weeks of winter of attack ads going back and forth in that Senate race. So a lot of this then
01:05:48.500
comes down to Arizona and Nevada. You talked about the trouble with the polling places in Arizona
01:05:54.820
earlier. I don't know about you. I was having flashbacks to office space and the jokes about
01:05:59.900
the printer that did not work and their desire to take the printer out and smash it when they said the
01:06:04.060
whole issue was a matter of printer ink not being dark enough for the machines to scan.
01:06:10.260
But the judge said there's no evidence. No one who wanted to vote has not been able to vote.
01:06:15.880
And then there's Nevada, where John Ralston is a guy who writes for the Nevada Independent. He's
01:06:20.760
been covering Nevada politics for a really long time. Knows it backwards and forwards. And it was
01:06:25.480
kind of very odd because he was going through the early votes and he doesn't know how everybody voted.
01:06:29.640
But you know, if a registered Republican, they're probably going to vote for Republicans.
01:06:32.480
He's a registered Democrat. They're probably going to vote for a Democrat. And he kept going through
01:06:36.400
the early vote. It looked really good for Republicans. And then he did his final prediction
01:06:40.440
and he predicted that Republicans would lose the Senate race, win the governor's race, and that
01:06:44.980
Democrats would hold on on three of the House races out there, which would kind of be a significant
01:06:49.320
underperformance considering the state of the economy, high inflation out in Nevada, all kinds of other
01:06:54.580
things that make you think, oh, I kind of thought Republicans would do better. Well, right now, it looks like
01:06:59.360
Republicans are doing well by that kind of back of the envelope math, but they may not have
01:07:04.160
everything counted until, you know, well into tomorrow. So I don't think we're going to know
01:07:08.140
tonight who has the Senate. I think it's going to drive people crazy. I think this is the fodder
01:07:11.800
that makes people think, ah, there's some shenanigans going in. They're going to find votes in a trunk of
01:07:16.940
a car or something like that. This may well be ordinary snafus and the sort of thing that happens,
01:07:22.600
but this does make people feel suspicious. And I think that it's going to be kind of frustrating
01:07:29.260
for Republicans that, you know, they kind of, maybe they got a little, I don't want to say
01:07:33.160
full of themselves, but just, you know, the hype of this wave, the hype of the size and the scale of
01:07:38.840
this wave looks a little big. You know, the network's called the state of Colorado for incumbent
01:07:45.020
Michael Bennett pretty much as soon as the polls closed. Joe O'Day was always a underdog out there,
01:07:51.440
but I think Republicans were hoping it was going to be close enough so that they couldn't call it
01:07:56.100
immediately, you know, make them sweat a little. That does not appear to have happened. And if you
01:08:01.580
couldn't make Colorado close, it's kind of hard to see a scenario where you'd make Washington state
01:08:06.080
close. Patty Murray looked a little bit nervous earlier in this cycle. They had a very good candidate
01:08:10.340
Republican smiley out there. But I think that this is probably, you know, all the ones that look
01:08:16.000
like, you know, reaches where Republicans needed a lucky break. I don't think they're going to get
01:08:20.220
those lucky breaks tonight. Well, and we talked about how tight it is in Michigan and how that
01:08:24.480
ballot initiative on abortion is drawing a lot of support, trying to make what they want. The
01:08:29.960
ballot initiative basically says, should the law look like it looked during Roe where you can abort
01:08:35.820
prior to viability? And that's apparently getting a ton of support. And so it almost reminded me of
01:08:43.140
the Karl Rove getting the gay marriage initiative all over the ballots in 2004 to help George W. Bush
01:08:49.040
win re-election. They needed to get people out to the vote somehow. Back then, that was a motivating
01:08:53.500
issue. And people credited his brilliance in doing it. That could put Gretchen Whitmer back in the
01:09:00.100
governor's house again over Tudor Dixon, who is very popular. Can I just ask you this question?
01:09:04.700
Glenn Greenwald has a good tweet. And as always, he raises good questions. It reads as follows.
01:09:10.940
Quote, we don't say election night anymore. It's now election month. End quote. NBC's Lester Holt and
01:09:17.460
Savannah Guthrie having a hearty laugh over the fact that the U.S., the world's richest country,
01:09:22.400
can no longer count votes or decide elections in one night or even in one week. Yeah, good point.
01:09:29.840
I mean, there's a reason that Florida works as well as it works. And ideally, we wouldn't have to go
01:09:35.580
through that kind of a hanging chad catastrophe and the other 49 in order to get results. But it's
01:09:40.740
kind of absurd, Jim, that we can't get real results from all these states for several days or a week
01:09:46.940
or, in the case of Georgia, another month. Yeah. You know, I was wondering if my memory
01:09:52.340
of past elections was kind of through rose-colored glasses of not saying, well, we're going to, you
01:09:58.040
know, maybe you'd have one or two races where it'd be really close and you'd have to wait until the
01:10:02.260
next day to hear, you know, how it shook out. But by and large, you knew who won. The networks
01:10:07.200
called it. The next networks had confidence in their calls. You didn't see something like,
01:10:10.580
say, in 2000, where they called the state of Florida for gore while the polls were still open
01:10:15.680
in the panhandle and then said, oh, wait, never mind. It's too close to call. That was an infamous
01:10:20.340
moment. And I almost feel like that was the moment where all of our confidence in our election started
01:10:25.060
to get a little shaky back there. I think you're correct. Look, some of this is undoubtedly states
01:10:31.080
that will not, most states, they start, if you do it in early vote or you mail it in early,
01:10:35.880
they will take it out and they'll count it so that when, you know, the polls close on election
01:10:39.500
night, they can add it into the polls and they can get that those votes counted very quickly.
01:10:44.340
There are a couple of states, including Pennsylvania and I believe Wisconsin, that do not allow them
01:10:48.840
to do that so that you have these basically these giant stack of envelopes and you can't really count
01:10:52.800
them until they start getting until the polls close on election. But it's also like, why is there a
01:10:58.160
giant stack of envelopes? Remember when we used to have there was a voting day and you had to go to the
01:11:02.240
polls and you had to make an effort. And part of the effort, like the effort was part of why it was
01:11:07.620
a big responsibility and how we sort of separated the wheat from the chaff. Like you had to really
01:11:12.400
want it. And it's one thing if you're disabled, you can't make it to the polls. We'd always
01:11:16.080
accommodate that. But now it's basically like, just go ahead and mail it in at any point. And look at what
01:11:21.820
happened in Pennsylvania. All these votes were mailed in before they even had the debate. Now, were those
01:11:26.340
people who were on the fence, were those people who, when they saw the debate, might have been persuaded
01:11:30.140
to go another way? I don't know. But I'd have a lot more faith in the integrity of the ultimate vote
01:11:36.020
if it were more controlled. You know, mail-in ballots make people feel a little hinky.
01:11:41.880
Yeah. Look, my home state and I believe the state of Minnesota both allow people to start casting early
01:11:47.980
votes in late September, more than 30 days before the election, which strikes me as really early. Now,
01:11:54.300
if you want it a week before, you think you're going to be traveling, you're afraid of,
01:11:57.360
you know, getting sick. In fact, I remember infamously the primary here in Virginia back in
01:12:04.200
2008 between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Here in Virginia, the polls close at seven and we
01:12:10.240
had an ice storm. I believe it was February. And of course, you had cars slipping and sliding all
01:12:14.580
over the roads because we don't know how to drive here. And as a result of that, people ended up not
01:12:19.200
getting to the polls because traffic was terrible. There were car accidents and stuff like that.
01:12:22.600
But yeah, all of this to me is a lesson of like, don't, you know, don't let it go. Vote before,
01:12:27.240
vote before you go to work. If you can do it at lunch hour, go do it at lunch hour.
01:12:31.420
But yeah, there's a circumstance in which you have people voting five months,
01:12:35.060
five weeks before election day, six weeks before election day. That seems ludicrous. And I think
01:12:39.600
the other thing is candidates like Fetterman, we can all now see why he was avoiding holding that
01:12:45.180
debate. You have a responsibility to hold that debate before the early voting really gets started.
01:12:49.880
He was committing a fraud on the electorate. I mean, honestly, that's what was happening.
01:12:54.460
And I just tell you, I'll take you a walk down memory lane. My Nana was born in 1915. And her mother
01:13:02.480
was one of those women who was alive when she couldn't vote. And then she could. And then it
01:13:09.660
became constitutional for her to vote. And she lost a leg to diabetes. And she still dragged herself down to
01:13:17.220
that polling station because so important it wasn't to her to make sure that she could vote.
01:13:22.180
And let me tell you that the supports for people who are disabled, I'm sure were not so great back
01:13:26.860
then. I just feel like today people are like, I'm busy. I'm not going to. So can't shouldn't we raise
01:13:32.920
the civic responsibility a level higher? I stole the last word. I got to move on. I'm coming back to
01:13:38.280
you, Jim Garrity. You're the greatest. Go get some more info and I'll I'll come right back. All right.
01:13:42.540
Want to bring you this news. ABC News now reporting that Kristi Noem has won reelection
01:13:48.080
in South Dakota. This is not this is not a surprise. And NBC reporting John Kennedy has
01:13:52.900
won reelection in Louisiana. Joining me now is Dennis Prager. He's a nationally syndicated
01:13:59.020
radio talk show host, columnist and founder of the great Prager University. Dennis, great
01:14:05.240
to have you here tonight. So how are you feeling based on what we've seen so far? Incomplete though.
01:14:10.460
Well, let me just first answer how am I feeling because I just got off the plane from Denmark.
01:14:15.200
I gave a speech in Copenhagen this weekend. And you're my first person outside of my wife that I'm
01:14:22.060
first American that I'm talking to. So happily, the plane arrived on time. I've been traveling for
01:14:29.040
about 18 hours. And it's wonderful to be with you. So now you're asking how I'm feeling about the
01:14:36.020
elections. Yeah. Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. Lay it on me. Okay. So I have been asked everywhere from
01:14:44.040
L.A. where I live throughout the country and by phone and in interviews and in Denmark. Well,
01:14:52.480
so how do you think the elections will go? I tell told everybody I have no prediction. I think
01:14:58.300
that people like to talk themselves into optimism because people prefer optimism to pessimism.
01:15:06.160
I was not a pessimist. I was not an optimist. But I did not quite see the reason for all of the
01:15:15.140
optimism. What I think, and this is the point I'd like to make, I think that a lot of Americans like
01:15:21.460
myself think, after the horrors of the pandemic and what was done to kids, seeing what children's
01:15:29.520
hospitals are doing to children, seeing how many hundreds of thousands of kids are being ruined
01:15:34.760
in this lie that they're changing sexes and don't feel that they're their own sex when they're 11 years
01:15:40.940
of age, and seeing what has happened to the economy by the suppressing of a natural energy that we have
01:15:48.160
in our country, and so much more, you would think that if there was ever a time where there would
01:15:55.700
be a tsunami of objection to democratic left-wing rule, it would be now. So I have a sad thing to
01:16:05.840
report. I'm not going to lose sleep over it because I just know, I sleep well because I fight. And I
01:16:12.320
always recommend to people, if you want to sleep well, fight. But if the Republicans do not do well,
01:16:20.800
I can't imagine an election in which they would have better circumstances on their behalf. So
01:16:28.900
that's somewhat of a dark thought, but that's it. What about, I mean, I can challenge that because if
01:16:34.960
Dobbs had not come down when it did, you know, the Republicans were steaming through to what looked like
01:16:40.460
a bloodbath election, and then Dobbs was handed down, reversing Roe versus Wade, and their fortunes
01:16:47.580
changed, right? Democrats became much more motivated in the wake of Dobbs, even though it was a dream for,
01:16:52.760
you know, the pro-life right. And I think they still are happy with it, even if they don't win
01:16:57.220
this election in the way that they wanted, they're still going to be happy with Dobbs. But I do think it
01:17:02.080
would have been more favorable to the Republicans if that decision had not come down at the time that it did.
01:17:07.300
Yes, that's fair to say. And look, you know, it's funny, when you first said Dodd, I thought you said
01:17:14.100
God. So I thought, yeah, maybe God did come down. I don't know. I'll tell you what it really looks
01:17:21.920
like. Well, at least the devil, if not God. I mean, Trump was a shoo-in for re-election until COVID.
01:17:30.300
I mean, it does seem like there's this consistent bad luck, as it were, hurting the country. Forget
01:17:40.540
hurting the Republicans, hurting the country. But yeah, so what are people saying? That because I'm
01:17:47.820
so angry at the decision, which of course did not render nationally in any way abortion illegal,
01:17:55.840
because they're so angry about that, they're okay with what is being done to born children,
01:18:03.260
like 10-year-olds, 11, 12. They're okay with children's hospitals saying, visit us. We'll give
01:18:09.840
you a mastectomy. Again, I just say, what would it take if those things don't overshadow the Supreme
01:18:20.920
Court decision on abortion? And let me tell you, there is some information on that. I mean,
01:18:25.740
just a bit. But in the latest exit polls, are society's values on gender identification
01:18:30.480
and sexual orientation changing for the better? Only 27% say that it is. And 50% say, no, it's
01:18:40.080
changing for the worse. People are not getting more accepting of this nonsense. As it gets crazier
01:18:44.760
and crazier, they're voting for the party that does. No, that's well, maybe, maybe. I mean,
01:18:51.220
some are for sure, but you know, the night is young. Anything could happen. But on the question
01:18:56.220
of abortion, I am interested to ask you because they say abortion should be legal in all or most cases,
01:19:04.580
all or most 60%. Yes. Illegal in all or most cases, 36. Now I will say a lot of people,
01:19:14.740
misunderstand this question. Traditionally, when it gets handed to them by pollsters,
01:19:18.600
they don't think, when they think all cases, it's like they're not thinking, oh, up to the moment
01:19:23.760
of birth, right? I mean, like it has to be phrased to them in exactly that way for them to side as we
01:19:29.820
know they do, which is predominantly on the side of, no, not in the third trimester, always in the
01:19:34.560
first trimester, most women should be able to do it. And in the second trimester, it depends.
01:19:39.460
It depends on where you are. That's generally how the American public feel. But in any event,
01:19:43.040
big support here and 60% say they felt dissatisfied and angry about the way Dobbs was decided. There's
01:19:52.000
no question this has been a factor today. I agree with you. Yeah. But there are so many
01:19:58.880
gigantic issues that will determine the fate of this society. It is remarkable that that would be
01:20:08.580
determinative. I would love to ask somebody who is not a radical feminist, let's say, just why would
01:20:18.240
you vote on that and not all these other issues that the Democrats are responsible for ruining?
01:20:26.360
And I would just like to hear their answer, because I can't come up with a good answer to that.
01:20:32.340
So because of the abortion decision, again, as I said earlier, you're okay with hundreds of thousands
01:20:39.520
of kids being given puberty blockers that will ruin their lives?
01:20:45.800
Can I tell you this, though, Dennis, let me ask you this, because my feeling is the Republicans screwed
01:20:50.340
up on this. You know, they weren't prepared for Dobbs and the messaging that they needed around it.
01:20:55.720
They finally found their footing about two months in and settled on a, you know, around 15 weeks,
01:21:03.360
sort of the European standard is fine by us. Some of us would like a full ban, but we understand
01:21:09.060
that's not really acceptable to the American populace. So like 15 weeks with exceptions for
01:21:13.780
rape and incest and so on. They finally found that footing. But the Democrats ran the summer with
01:21:18.220
it's going to be ruled illegal. The Republicans are going to pass a law in the U.S. Congress banning it
01:21:25.280
in all 50 states. By the way, that would never be upheld. They do not have the power to do such a
01:21:30.240
thing. And the Republicans floundered. And I do think you have to give the Democrats their due
01:21:34.940
in scoring points on an issue with their base, at least, that was popular for them. And we're seeing
01:21:40.840
right. We're seeing that. Yes, I agree with you. I, I, I simply don't understand why the Republicans
01:21:48.500
don't take the, the issue of who is ruining your children, who decided to keep them out of school,
01:21:56.660
teachers unions, the, the, the handmaiden of the democratic party. We have so many powerful points.
01:22:08.180
All right, let me give you an update. ABC reporting right now, there are about 2000 votes
01:22:14.380
separating Warnock and Walker in the Georgia Senate race. I mean, it is tight down there.
01:22:22.100
And each man has fought for every single one of those votes. Boy, I'm really glad that that Maricopa
01:22:27.880
County voting situation didn't happen in Georgia is all hell would be breaking loose. Also, just to
01:22:34.980
let you know, speaking of that Maricopa County thing, the state officials have apologized for
01:22:39.820
the issue in Arizona saying it will not affect anything. They say, they say all the votes will
01:22:44.500
be counted. Well, that could be true if they all cast provisional ballots. But what Carrie Lake and
01:22:49.920
others are saying, and Harmeet Dillon is saying is some were told you don't have to cast a provisional
01:22:54.920
ballot. You can just go to another polling station and cast an actual live ballot there.
01:22:59.600
And then they found out the hard way when they got to place number two. That wasn't true. We're
01:23:04.940
going to hear more about that. Here's a question for you from one of our YouTube watchers, Dennis.
01:23:09.160
If Georgia goes to a runoff, again, 2000, and nobody has over 50% right now, do you think that favors
01:23:16.640
Walker or Warnock? And I'll add this. Does it matter?
01:23:22.980
I don't make predictions, but if you're just asking favor, I think it would favor Walker.
01:23:30.760
I think that the people of Georgia would then be voting not so much for their senator, but for
01:23:40.880
very possibly, like last time, who will control the Senate. And then the Republicans have their
01:23:47.920
powerful arguments to be made, the ones that I have just made, if in fact they'll make them.
01:23:52.980
But literally only God knows. Look, I don't know what to tell you. I just came back from Europe
01:24:03.340
at a wonderful time. I look at these societies that are more and more controlled by strong state
01:24:12.900
governments. People love it. I received a free speech award at the Danish parliament. That's why I was
01:24:21.220
there. And as I said to them, let's be honest. The human species prefers to be taken care of
01:24:29.820
than to be free. Freedom is a value. Freedom is not an instinct. And that's what we're seeing in
01:24:40.440
America. The freest country in human history is abandoning freedom for the devil deal.
01:24:49.860
You give me your vote and I will give you goodies. You lose your freedom and I will give you even more
01:24:59.840
goodies. And it seems that half of America has bought that deal. And I, I'm sorry to, you know,
01:25:06.900
not be upbeat, but even if we win the thought that half of America, including many of its youth,
01:25:13.720
think that way, that freedom, like 45% of young Americans say they believe in free speech, but
01:25:21.980
not for hate speech, not understanding. That's the whole point of free speech, that it allows for
01:25:27.320
speech that you think is hate speech. We're, we're, we're in a crisis and we have to fight.
01:25:33.560
You're absolutely right. We've talked about that before. It's easier for some than it is for others.
01:25:40.400
But as you point out, as you have pointed out, you can help the fighters. If you're not, if you're not
01:25:45.220
a fighter, you can help the fighters. Uh, and some of these wars are really just objectively worth
01:25:50.000
fighting when no matter your political stripes, um, an update for you, uh, the Pennsylvania secretary
01:25:55.880
state pleading for patience during its multi day counting process, going back down South to Georgia,
01:26:03.040
uh, Herschel Walker now in the lead by about 16,000, but again, it is neck and neck and no one is over
01:26:10.020
40%. It's under 50%. Uh, the New York time report where times were putting the latest on the Ohio
01:26:15.600
Senate, JD Vance at 54%, Tim Ryan at 46% was 75% reporting. I mean, look, this is just my prediction,
01:26:23.620
but I think they'll call that soon. JD Vance has been ahead in the polls by a considerable amount
01:26:27.780
for a long time. Um, Dennis, I love hearing from you and tonight is no exception. Thank you for being
01:26:34.340
on with us. It's a joy to be with you and welcome home. Uh, I'm going to head on over back to Tom
01:26:41.100
Bevin of real clear politics. Who's taken a close look at the results coming in everywhere, including
01:26:45.860
from Arizona. All right, Tom, what are we seeing? What's our headline?
01:26:49.400
Um, so we finally have some numbers in Arizona, about 42% reporting. Um, and right now, uh, Mark
01:26:57.160
Kelly in the Senate race has a pretty sizable lead over Blake masters about 15, just under 15 points.
01:27:04.120
But again, that's, uh, that's not necessarily indicative of where that race is going to end
01:27:08.920
up. I think this one's obviously going to be very, very close. Um, in the governor's race,
01:27:13.900
you have, uh, Katie Hobbs leading, uh, Carrie Lake by, well, 10 points basically at this point,
01:27:21.140
again, 42% reporting there. And we also have, uh, look at Wisconsin, about 50% of the votes in,
01:27:28.300
in Wisconsin, you've got Tony Evers, the incumbent Democrat governor. There is up about, uh, six points
01:27:34.360
in that race right now. And on the Senate side, you've got Ron Johnson who is trailing Mandela Barnes by,
01:27:42.000
uh, about, uh, what is that? 1.4, I think. So again, a lot of votes still to come in and again,
01:27:50.200
probably, uh, vote from the more rural parts of the state, which would obviously favor the
01:27:54.820
Republicans in both of those races. Yeah. To come in. Can I ask you about, uh, Virginia? Because
01:27:59.740
we saw Abigail Spamburger, the Democrat, she's moderate. She held onto her seat. Um, then we saw
01:28:06.260
the Democrat in Virginia 10, hold on to their seat as well. The third Virginia race that we'd
01:28:11.940
been looking at, Jim Garrity had called this, uh, to our attention in his morning jolt yesterday or
01:28:17.240
the day before was Virginia too. And that was the one most gettable for the GOP. And it appears
01:28:23.540
they did get it. Uh, Republican state Senator Jen Kiggins, uh, projected to defeat the Democrat there,
01:28:29.820
Elaine Luria in Virginia's second congressional district. That's a significant win for the GOP.
01:28:35.080
Uh, the Democrat had just went down as part of the January 6th committee. And so on our subject,
01:28:40.160
you know, on our discussion of ripple, uh, like surfable wave tsunami, how does, uh, the GOP
01:28:49.660
taking over Virginia to change the calculation if at all? Well, I think it's, it's a, you know,
01:28:55.240
ripple was winning one of those three sort of wave ish was winning two of the three and tsunami
01:29:00.660
was winning all three. I mean, remember the Virginia 10 was a Biden plus 19 district. I mean,
01:29:06.880
so that the fact that that was even close shows that, you know, there was a strong Republican
01:29:11.560
candidate there and Republicans turned out Spanberger was sort of the, the middle ground.
01:29:16.200
That was a Biden plus seven district. And that's why Republicans thought they really had a good
01:29:20.480
chance, uh, to get that because we had seen in past, uh, elections in Virginia last year, we saw a
01:29:27.180
shift of 10 points or more in some of these, uh, some of these districts. So I think that was
01:29:32.220
disappointing for Republicans. They thought they were going to do, they thought they were going to
01:29:34.820
get two out of those three. Virginia 10 was sort of a, you know, what was it was a stretch and,
01:29:40.060
and the dream, but, um, obviously they didn't get, they didn't get that and they didn't get
01:29:44.660
Virginia seven. But, well, or did they stand by, uh, Chad program, my old, my old colleague at,
01:29:51.840
uh, Fox news who knows a lot and is solid reporter, um, reporting as follows from colleague,
01:29:57.460
Caroline McKee, GOP, Virginia house candidate, yes, Lee Vega suggests she has not lost to Democrat
01:30:04.260
Virginia representative Spanberger says there are quote, thousands of votes that are yet to be
01:30:10.520
counted. Now, having done this a lot, Carl Rove with many others, it is not unusual for a candidate
01:30:19.160
who is projected to lose when there's still outstanding raw vote to be tallied to say,
01:30:24.740
I haven't lost. You have to count all the votes, but the way the gurus do this behind the scenes
01:30:29.380
is they see where the outstanding vote is in terms of the counties and what the percentages of Dems and
01:30:35.980
Republicans in those counties. And they make their very well-educated guess on how it's likely to go
01:30:42.860
that there's, they're calculating. I imagine there's just not enough outstanding vote for this
01:30:47.480
Republican to overcome the lead that Spanberger has, but what do you make of that reporting by
01:30:53.080
Chad? Yeah. I mean, that's not terribly surprising, um, for the reasons that you mentioned, but I,
01:30:59.420
you know, we'll have to see what the final numbers are. It's probably prudent if it's,
01:31:03.520
if it's that close for her to say, listen, let's wait. You know, she's, there's no need necessarily
01:31:08.760
to run out and concede the race before all the votes are counted. If it's really, really close.
01:31:12.500
Um, and it is so, so that doesn't surprise me. Hmm. Okay. All right. Go, go gather some more
01:31:19.480
information and, uh, we'll come back to you and get the update. Tom Bevin, such a pleasure, uh,
01:31:24.600
here with me now, one of the most brilliant minds in all of Silicon Valley. David Sachs is a founding
01:31:29.220
member of PayPal. He's a venture capitalist who now runs craft ventures, and he may also be running
01:31:33.900
Twitter right now. He is also the cohost of the very popular tech podcast, all in with, with my
01:31:41.300
good pal, Jason, Jason, who I, David Sachs, I heard Jason say that he actually loves me. So all is
01:31:47.760
forgiven. No, that's good to hear. I'll, I'll pass that on, but I have to, I have to, thank you for
01:31:53.180
that introduction, but I have to disavow. I'm not, not running Twitter. I'm just doing what investors
01:31:57.700
do in Silicon Valley, which is trying to be helpful. The reports that somehow I'm one of the people in
01:32:02.900
charge there are definitely, uh, exaggerated. Okay. But Elon's your friend used to work together
01:32:07.700
and is it, so you're trying to help him steady the ship? I'm helping a friend exactly until he
01:32:12.580
puts in place his permanent team. Okay. What do you make of all the blowback he's getting for what
01:32:16.960
he's done so far? Well, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's certainly overblown. It's exaggerated. He
01:32:23.540
hasn't even had a chance to look at the content moderation policies yet. He's just trying to get his
01:32:27.460
arms around the business. This is a company that's losing something like $4 million a day.
01:32:31.720
And so he's first is trying to right size the company, rationalize the cost structure,
01:32:36.560
uh, start generating some more revenue. And then he's said that he plans to look at, uh, content
01:32:42.560
moderation, uh, to basically create a, a council that's going to arbitrate these issues. And he
01:32:48.660
wants to restore free speech, but he needs a little bit of time to do that. He has not made those changes
01:32:53.140
yet. And yet we have this hysterical reaction on the part of, you know, the sort of this professional
01:32:59.940
elite who is very much on the side of censorship and they want to hoard their blue checks and they
01:33:05.840
don't want to see Elon sell them to, uh, you know, to increase revenue. So there is this, um,
01:33:12.420
you know, Elon's called it the sort of battle between peasants and Lords. You know, you've got
01:33:15.940
the average user on Twitter would like to be able to get a blue check and the Lords refuse to, um,
01:33:22.000
to sort of decentralize and democratize access. So that's, it's an interesting battle going on right
01:33:26.580
now. I don't know what you're referring to hysterical reaction. Do you mean something
01:33:30.400
like this from whoopie Goldberg watch? I I'm getting off. I'm getting off today because I just
01:33:38.680
feel like, you know, it's, it's so messy and I I'm tired of now having had certain kinds of attitudes
01:33:49.520
blocked and now they're back on. And I just, I'm going to get out. And if it settles down and I feel
01:33:56.120
more comfortable, maybe I'll come back. But as of tonight, I'm done with Twitter.
01:34:02.480
Am I seeing things or are you getting a little misty eyed there?
01:34:05.240
No, there's a lot of, there's a lot of drama going on. I mean, like I said, the content moderation
01:34:11.460
policies are the same. Elon hasn't changed them. So, um, now there was, uh, an op that on Elon's
01:34:17.980
very first day as CEO taking over the company, there was an operation by a message board called
01:34:24.620
4chan where they basically posted messages on this board to encourage users to go on Twitter
01:34:31.420
and, uh, and, and post racist messages. And they actually use bots to create a lot of, uh,
01:34:38.800
they created a bunch of bot accounts that posted these racist messages. This was detected very
01:34:43.020
quickly and taken down. But then what happened is these activist groups put out stories like,
01:34:47.620
well, you're, they're monitoring the fire hose of tweets. And they put out stories like racist
01:34:51.980
tweets have increased 500% on Twitter. And then they feed that to the press. And then the press
01:34:56.160
feeds it to celebrities like whoopie. And then they feed it to advertisers at, to create a boycott.
01:35:00.780
But the whole thing is a manufactured op. I mean, the policies have not changed. Um, the, the,
01:35:06.920
there are people who want to, uh, try and make trouble for the company. And so they essentially
01:35:13.140
create these stories, but, uh, just it, there hasn't been a change yet on speech.
01:35:17.460
If she is so offended by racist messages, she should cover her ears from the woman who sits
01:35:23.340
down the lane from her on the set, who just referred to white women prepared to vote Republican
01:35:28.620
as roaches. Um, so yeah, whoopies doesn't have to go far. If she was looking for reasons to be
01:35:33.680
offended, that one apparently didn't offend her ears. All right, let's talk elections. Uh, enough
01:35:38.380
about Twitter, even though I know you got all the answers. It's kind of exciting. Um, so far not
01:35:43.620
seeing tons of surprises coming in really. We're just kind of waiting. I will give you this update.
01:35:48.740
Um, yeah, okay. This is not surprising. Uh, NBC news is projecting that Democrat Josh Shapiro
01:35:55.120
has won the Pennsylvania governor's race. We knew that was going to happen. The Republican
01:35:59.260
candidate there had, could never get anything going, uh, that will likely help Fetterman.
01:36:03.780
That of course has already been baked into the cake and assessing how this race is likely to go.
01:36:07.500
And an update on the Pennsylvania Senate race again, via NBC Fetterman now at 50.8 as at 46.7,
01:36:16.560
but that's only 56% of the expected votes. So you can't, it's just kind of fun to see it. It means
01:36:22.760
nothing until we get much, much more of the vote in, uh, the bottom line is we don't know. And things
01:36:28.540
are happening there as kind of, they were expected to happen, but what's your overall take on where we
01:36:31.960
are tonight? Well, I think it's gonna be a good night for the Republicans. Um, you know, they're
01:36:36.580
expected to win the house. I think they're going to win the Senate too. I don't know how good a
01:36:40.200
night's going to be. I don't know how big a red wave it's going to be, but I think it's very early
01:36:43.480
to tell, but it does seem like the Republicans are going to do well. And I think the biggest reason
01:36:48.040
is just that the economy is not doing very well right now. Something like 75% of Americans already
01:36:54.340
believe we're in recession. 72% of Americans think that we're on the wrong track. I'm not sure who the
01:37:00.260
3% are who believe we're in recession, but on the right track, that seems kind of weird. But in any
01:37:04.480
event, you get the point that, you know, almost three quarters of the country thinks that we're
01:37:09.500
headed in the wrong direction and we're in a recession. So, and I think this is really a
01:37:13.360
direct result of, uh, Biden's economic policy that he put in place really from the beginning
01:37:18.320
of his presidency. You know, first he canceled our energy independence. Then he passed up
01:37:25.400
opportunities to essentially negotiate, use diplomacy to avoid the Ukraine war that created a supply
01:37:31.020
shock. So in other words, he, he reduced America's own sources of energy at the very same time
01:37:36.860
that we have this, you know, war in Ukraine that he really didn't do anything to prevent.
01:37:41.620
And then on top of that, he alienated the Saudis. So all of this started this, um, were greatly
01:37:47.060
contributed to this inflation problem we have, which has caused the feds to jack up interest rates so
01:37:52.000
fast that it's crashed the stock market, especially growth stocks. And it's, uh, increased, um,
01:37:58.020
interest rates. The, the, uh, mortgages are now over 7%. So the economy is in really big trouble.
01:38:04.120
And of course the, the, the Biden spending program has contributed a lot to this as well. I mean,
01:38:08.220
he started with that $1.9 trillion American rescue plan. This is the COVID relief bill that we didn't
01:38:14.220
really need. Larry Summers warned him to create inflation. They still went with it. Then there was
01:38:18.840
another 1.1 trillion for infrastructure and they wanted the 3.3, sorry, 3.5 trillion for, uh, build back
01:38:26.860
better. That got mercifully reduced to 750 billion, which they then renamed the inflation reduction
01:38:32.060
act, which was sort of ludicrous. Uh, but in any event, this, this wild spending by Biden has really
01:38:37.880
contributed to this inflation problem. The inflation has caused, uh, interest rates to, to spike up and
01:38:44.500
that has really put the economy, I think on the verge of, um, of really a very deep recession. And we can
01:38:51.640
very much feel it here in Silicon Valley. All the major tech companies are doing huge layoffs
01:38:55.880
right now and, um, or, or, or hiring freezes and a lot of companies are just starting to go out of
01:39:02.120
business. So I think, you know, the American people are starting to feel this, but I think it's going to
01:39:06.280
be a lot worse next year as well. I think this is really important because already you're starting
01:39:10.900
to hear, um, Democrats and their media allies say, well, the Republicans can't do anything. They can't do
01:39:16.740
anything about inflation. You know, they just complained about it. They're not actually not going to be able to
01:39:19.660
change it at all. Well, that doesn't erase the fact that the Democrats are the reason we got into this
01:39:25.680
pickle to begin with. Outlining the spending that they approved over threats from Republicans or
01:39:32.900
warnings, I should say from Republicans and others that it would cause runaway inflation, uh, was a,
01:39:38.880
was deeply problematic. And they got away with it saying, we're the ones who want to help you.
01:39:43.020
We want to help you with all this code relief that at that point, the people no longer needed.
01:39:46.940
And in helping us, they've wound up hurting a lot of people and the exit polls reflect the pain.
01:39:54.380
No, that's right. I mean, so the American rescue plan that was passed in Biden's first three months
01:39:58.820
in office was done on straight party line, uh, straight party lines. They then later in that
01:40:04.160
year, after inflation was already a problem, they did the infrastructure bill, which admittedly some
01:40:08.380
Republicans went along with, but Biden made the number twice as big as what the Republicans wanted.
01:40:12.660
And then you had this BBB plan, which was going to be another three and a half trillion. They then
01:40:17.540
reduced it to seven 50, uh, which was again done on straight party lines. So, and then Biden did this
01:40:23.220
trillion dollars of debt forgiveness for, for student loans. So there's been this massive amount of
01:40:28.100
spending that's come out of this white house. And then on top of it, you got to remember that
01:40:32.200
last summer, the administration had this party line that inflation was transitory. Remember that
01:40:37.880
starting in May last year. And the reason why that was so important is because Powell
01:40:42.200
was up for renomination and there was a five month period between May and November where, uh,
01:40:50.000
where Powell really should have been raising interest rates and stopping the quantitative easing,
01:40:54.720
but he didn't. And I think a big part of the reason why is he got roped into this party
01:40:59.140
line. The story that the administration was telling that inflation was transitory. So in other words,
01:41:05.220
in order for him to successfully be reconfirmed, he had to get along with what the administration
01:41:09.780
was saying. So the administration affected fed policy in a major way last year. And, uh, and the
01:41:16.420
result of all of this is we have this, you know, the worst inflation we've had in 40 years that's
01:41:21.460
caused interest rates to now have, have gone up a lot. And that I think is really hurting the economy.
01:41:27.960
I want to give you an update on some of the numbers now update on Ohio Senate per NBC, JD Vance,
01:41:33.660
53.8% Tim Ryan, 46.1, 82% of the vote in. So we're getting closer. Um, also still looking down
01:41:41.520
in Georgia update on the governor's race there, which should be Brian Kemp's pretty easily based
01:41:47.060
on what we saw going in. He's at 54.0 Stacey Abrams at 45.3 again, 82% of the expected vote in there.
01:41:55.520
I mean, right now those races look like they're going to wind up pretty much as we, as we thought
01:42:00.920
they'd be. Um, but let me ask you this up to speaking of Ohio and JD Vance's race, according
01:42:07.320
to the exit poll CNN reporting, almost 75% of Ohio voters said inflation has caused their families
01:42:13.400
severe or moderate hardship that mirrors the numbers we saw nationally. I mean, that's how do
01:42:19.380
you get past that in a state like Ohio? This is not a rich state. It's not San Francisco. It's not
01:42:25.540
California with a bunch of rich people running in tech. It's not New York with a bunch of rich
01:42:29.600
people running wall street. Ohio is people who work with their hands, you know, and, and
01:42:34.420
75% saying inflation caused their family severe or moderate hardship. I just feel like with
01:42:39.760
those numbers, how does JD Vance not win? Right? No, you're right. I mean, the, the number
01:42:45.160
one most salient issue with the electorate is inflation and the economy. I think something
01:42:50.160
like 51% say it's the number one issue that they care about. And the problem is that workers'
01:42:55.360
wages have not kept up with inflation. So their buying power in real terms has diminished.
01:42:59.920
And the only time the administration ever really has acknowledged this is when they
01:43:03.980
farcically renamed the build back better act, the inflation reduction act. Well, if it was so good
01:43:09.580
at reducing inflation, why don't you run on it? Why don't you talk about your legislative
01:43:13.580
accomplishments? You'll notice that the administration Biden has not been talking at all
01:43:18.460
about any of the bills that he passed that we're talking about the American rescue plan, the
01:43:22.900
infrastructure, the inflation reduction act. He's not running on these things. Instead, he's running on
01:43:27.960
this message that if you don't support the Democrats in power in perpetuity, that somehow
01:43:33.820
that's a threat to democracy. In other words, democracy requires the perpetuation of one party
01:43:38.860
rule forever. This is his campaign pitch. This is his sales pitch. So I don't think voters are buying
01:43:44.960
it. I think there's a small sort of cohort of voters who, you know, actively watch MSNBC who buy
01:43:50.480
that story. But I do not think that the working class voters of Ohio are buying that story.
01:43:56.640
This is back to John Ralston, the reporter in Nevada who's broken a lot of news. I just
01:44:02.260
confirmed that whatever mail has been dropped off today will not be tabulated tonight in Clark County.
01:44:06.840
May actually take until Thursday. Again, this is back to Nevada. What will be tallied tonight? Our
01:44:11.680
election day in person and all the early mail votes already in the system save provisional ballots.
01:44:16.240
We are now incapable of getting an election day election result. It's absurd in Florida.
01:44:24.000
Yes. Right. Because of the hanging chads thing that happened 20 plus years ago. Right. Like they
01:44:27.820
learned their lesson. I don't know. And this this happens there. At the same time, we've got the
01:44:32.520
situation in Maricopa, Arizona that we're just going to have to try. They're sorry. Well, OK, you're sorry,
01:44:38.980
but your boss is Carrie Lake's opponent. You know, she's in the race. So naturally,
01:44:44.680
people are going to be a little suspicious if that race comes down to a tight vote. You know,
01:44:49.400
they're saying nobody was denied their vote. The other side is saying something very
01:44:53.080
different than that. But I really think this is a wake up call. The Democrats are so worried about
01:44:58.300
like, oh, the election integrity. It's like, why don't we focus on this? It's actually not that hard
01:45:02.960
to run a clean and fair election. It makes no sense that some states are able to give us
01:45:08.660
a verdict on election night and others require to the next day or many days. It seems like this is
01:45:15.040
something that we should try to fix across the country is be able to find out who won at least
01:45:20.840
the same night of an election. Unless there's something extraordinary happening, like some sort
01:45:24.700
of extremely close runoff where you need to a recount. But just for in the ordinary course of
01:45:29.320
things to have elections that drag on for days, it doesn't inspire confidence in the system.
01:45:34.020
So what extent do you think the the media has had and what we're seeing so far tonight? Because
01:45:39.860
when I see abortion so high up in the list, I think of conversation I had with some pals on the
01:45:44.740
show right after Dobbs broke and and they were suggesting this wasn't going to be a real issue to
01:45:50.340
me. And I said, well, don't discount the media running story after story after story, trying to
01:45:56.020
tug at the heartstrings of people about, you know, this person who wanted an abortion and couldn't get
01:45:59.680
it. And sure enough, we did see some of that. I do wonder to what extent the Republicans, as always,
01:46:06.740
are coming from behind because they've got not just their opponents, but the media as well against
01:46:10.880
them. Yeah, well, I mean, there's no question that the media has a huge impact. I mean, imagine if the
01:46:16.520
media if we had just a completely neutral media, I think that all these close that would be probably a
01:46:22.980
several point swing, you know, that would that would make a big difference. I think on the issue of
01:46:27.700
abortion, it is a salient issue for a pretty large number of voters, but the number is something
01:46:33.340
like 15% to 20% of voters say it's, you know, one of their top issues as compared to say 51% for the
01:46:40.660
economy. So it is meaningful, but it's not as meaningful as the economy or inflation. And I
01:46:46.540
think one of the things that's happened since you got that, since you got that failed ballot
01:46:51.480
initiative in Kansas, remember, that the pro-life side tried to amend the Constitution in order to
01:46:58.600
make a change that would then allow for further restrictions on abortion that actually failed.
01:47:04.180
And since then, I think you've seen Republicans start to moderate their message on that issue.
01:47:09.440
They've learned how to talk about it, I think, in a way that is less alienating to the, I'd say,
01:47:15.500
majority of Americans who favor some sort of messy compromise in the middle. But the Democrats have
01:47:21.500
not actually, the Democrats, their position on this issue is to permit abortion into the nine month
01:47:26.580
for any reason. It's actually a position that it's more radical than even what was in Roe. You know,
01:47:32.820
Roe basically said that states can restrict abortion after viability. This is after 23 weeks. So
01:47:38.220
the Democrats actually have taken a more extreme position on abortion than I think a lot of
01:47:44.640
Republicans who've learned to talk about the issue. So I'm skeptical that this is going to be a silver
01:47:49.380
bullet for the Democrats. We'll see. Continuing to watch the latest numbers come in, New York,
01:47:56.540
Georgia, sorry, not New York, New York Times. Georgia Senate raised Walker 49.4, Warnock 48.6 with 77%
01:48:06.500
reporting. Pennsylvania, Fetterman 50. Oz 47% with 62% reporting. There's more and more tweeting from
01:48:17.460
GOP pundits suggesting Oz is likely to lose based on what's left to count, but we don't know that.
01:48:23.240
We'll continue to watch it. David Sachs, always a pleasure speaking with you, sir. Thank you. Come
01:48:27.520
back. Good luck with the Twitter situation. Happy to talk anytime. Thanks, Megan.
01:48:31.560
All right. Back with me now for closing thoughts on what to expect the rest of the night. Tom Bevan
01:48:36.020
and Jim Garrity together, the dream team together. So what do you got, Tom? Let me ask you about that
01:48:42.120
suggestion that given the outstanding vote left to count in Pennsylvania, some are getting more and
01:48:50.140
more bearish on Oz's chances. Well, look, that race was always going to be very, very close. I mean,
01:48:58.640
we had Oz leading, I think he was ahead in the final through a few polls in that race. And,
01:49:04.060
you know, but he was leading by only, I think, three tenths of 1% in our average. So clearly,
01:49:09.420
it was going to be, you know, a coin flip race. So we'll have to wait and see what happens. It looks
01:49:15.420
like Fetterman's running strong, though, in the areas where Biden won in 2020, even running ahead of
01:49:21.240
Biden in some of those places. So I think Democrats think they have a pretty good shot at taking that
01:49:26.740
seat. And that's obviously, that would be a flip. I can't help but think, Jim Garrity, of Chuck Schumer
01:49:34.160
and what he was heard saying to Joe Biden in the tarmac that day saying, we're good in Pennsylvania.
01:49:39.600
That debate did not hurt us too badly. He was more worried about Georgia. And indeed,
01:49:44.080
it does look like Walker's doing pretty well in Georgia and Fetterman is doing pretty well in
01:49:48.800
Pennsylvania. Chuck Schumer obviously has a very good reason to pay very close attention to all of this.
01:49:53.240
He wants to remain, um, the majority leader and not become the minority leader and watch Mitch
01:49:57.980
McConnell run the Senate. Um, I guess I personally would not be surprised if this is how it goes,
01:50:03.720
because I just, I said before, it seems like what January 6th is to the Republicans,
01:50:10.960
Fetterman's disability issues are to the Democrats. They really just don't care.
01:50:17.020
Hmm. Yeah. I was going to say, since we last talked, uh, I've spoke,
01:50:20.620
I've heard from several Pennsylvania Republicans watching this race closely,
01:50:24.600
looking at the numbers coming in from the suburban districts outside Pennsylvania,
01:50:28.260
Bucks County, places like that. And just kind of looking, uh, not what we wanted to see.
01:50:32.860
They're not saying he's doomed yet, but basically they had targets of how many votes they wanted
01:50:37.180
in those districts and they just aren't seeing them. Um, so that, you know, I think right around now,
01:50:43.900
we are approaching 11 o'clock Eastern time, you can see a narrative taking place, right?
01:50:50.040
Fetterman is looking like he's going to pull it out in Pennsylvania. Oz is down by like four
01:50:54.280
percentage points. Still a lot of votes out there, but like I said, Republicans don't like
01:50:58.200
the margins they're seeing. Um, Georgia, I mean, look, maybe Walker, he's, he's not too far below
01:51:04.160
that 50%, but this is probably going to a runoff. I still like his odds in a runoff, but it still is,
01:51:10.500
you know, another month of campaigning, you know, you know, we saw what happened in the runoffs last
01:51:14.380
time. So we know we can't really count everything there, but let's, let's say Trump doesn't
01:51:18.120
interfere this time, right? Trump interfered the last time. I'm building up to this, this crescendo,
01:51:22.800
you could say, uh, Maggie Hassan, who looked vulnerable at the beginning of this as look
01:51:27.240
like she's going to cruise to reelection. It's a couple of just folks have already called this
01:51:30.800
race early. ABC just called a lot of the votes out. I'm kind of surprised how early we're seeing a
01:51:35.400
call there, but apparently Don Bolduc has just, you know, flopped despite some folks saying he was
01:51:39.980
really closing in the final days. We'll see how things go in Arizona. We'll see how things go in
01:51:44.480
Nevada, but I think you add it up. It's a very disappointing night for, uh, for a lot of
01:51:48.680
Republicans. Maybe they can still win the Senate, but it kind of depends on what still has to be
01:51:52.880
resolved. Well, I don't know why you say it's a very disappointing night. You know, uh, Ron DeSantis
01:51:57.800
is basically walking around like Conan the Barbarian and leaving a trail of, of, you know, Charlie
01:52:03.360
crisp entrails behind him and just demolished. Florida has become so red and Oh, Oh, who endorsed
01:52:09.740
Oz out in Pennsylvania? Who was the one who put Herschel Walker? Okay. Herschel Walker was a football
01:52:14.840
star. He was going to win that primary no matter what. Um, you know, generic Republican, Tim
01:52:22.000
Pawlenty, who is the most generic Republican I can think of. You know, if, if you just had a normal
01:52:26.500
Republican out there, there's an excellent chance they perform, we performing better than these
01:52:30.580
candidates. If Republicans will go through this cycle and they're like, you know what?
01:52:34.220
This did not turn out the way we hoped. Maybe that narrative we heard early on of Trumpy,
01:52:39.520
you know, unusual, inexperienced candidates. Maybe that's what they're going to be pointing
01:52:44.220
to. I mean, they're going to say, wait a minute, you know what? The economy is terrible.
01:52:47.860
You got Carrie Lake. People are PO'd about inflation. We had the best possible environment we could
01:52:52.840
possibly hope for. And it gets a phenomenally unpopular president and we can't beat John Fetterman
01:52:58.480
in Pennsylvania. Really? That's what Republicans are at this point. So approaching 11. Things look
01:53:06.900
pretty grim. Jim, Jim, hold on. We'll get time to weigh in because I don't know that I think it's
01:53:11.900
too early to say this is looking like a big disappointment for the Republicans. I think
01:53:15.440
we can safely say no tsunami, but if the Republicans, they could, they could very well still win control
01:53:20.860
of the Senate. And it looks like they will win control of the house. And that's a huge W for them,
01:53:25.420
Tom. I don't, how do you see it? Yeah. Well, I look, given the expectations
01:53:30.420
that Republicans had coming into this night, I think it is going to, we'll see where the final
01:53:35.060
numbers end up. But I think there were a lot of Republicans who thought that they were on the
01:53:38.800
verge of, of a tsunami of like a knockout blow. And that is certainly not going to happen. Now,
01:53:44.640
listen, I, first of all, Jim, I don't know about that. I mean, you got JD Vance, he's cruising in
01:53:48.600
Ohio. You've got Ted Budd. Those are both Trump endorsed candidates. I don't think Trump endorsed
01:53:52.420
Don Bolduc. We'll see what happens with Blake Masters and Adam Laxall. I mean, if Republicans
01:53:57.300
win those two races in the West and Herschel Walker manages to avoid a runoff in Georgia,
01:54:04.060
suddenly, you know, Republicans win the Senate with a plus two seats. So we'll see what happens. I mean,
01:54:10.320
I think this night is, is not over for Republicans, but it's certainly, there were some disappointments
01:54:16.920
in the house. And, and, you know, if, if Oz goes down in Pennsylvania and Don Bolduc certainly been
01:54:22.740
a disappointment in the Senate races, but again, I'm, you know, Republicans plus two in the Senate
01:54:28.500
is, is not a bad scenario for them. And if they win 15 to 20 house seats, that's not a, that's not a,
01:54:36.000
you know, terrible night for them, but it will be, I think, disappointing for folks who there were a lot
01:54:40.160
of Republicans out there who were hoping for a lot more. They want a tsunami. Just an update on
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Wisconsin, uh, New York times reporting Ron Johnson, Republican has 55 0.1% Mandela Barnes, 49.9%,
01:54:54.080
only 58% reporting. That's a race in which, uh, Barnes's stance on crime has been front and center.
01:55:02.320
Uh, I just, I, I will be shocked if Barnes manages to pull that one out. And in the state of Wisconsin,
01:55:09.800
I just like, I get given his record on crime and no bail and defund the police in this environment,
01:55:16.840
Jim. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Uh, but that one's, that one's, I feel like going to go red. And then,
01:55:22.120
yeah, like you said, a couple of people, including the ABC is projecting Maggie Hassan as the winner
01:55:28.000
in New Hampshire. So if New Hampshire goes blue, um, I mean, stays blue. And, um, if Pennsylvania,
01:55:36.020
uh, goes blue, right, that would be a, a Dem pickup, um, and the Republicans win Georgia,
01:55:45.160
that would be a GOP pickup. They need still to win one more. The GOP still needs to,
01:55:52.020
they'll need to pick up one more in order to gain control to get 51. And so what in my scenario would
01:55:57.120
it be? It could be, could be Nevada, could be Arizona. Is there anything else I'm not thinking
01:56:02.660
of that's still out there as a possible GOP pickup? Not really. And I think Nevada is the
01:56:07.840
safer bet of the two. Um, Laxalt's been a very strong candidate, had a small, but consistent lead
01:56:13.980
in the polling. But I just feel like this has turned into the kind of night where if you're
01:56:17.080
Republicans, you can't count on anything that didn't look safe. They're not getting the breaks.
01:56:22.320
They're not getting the late surges, the ones, the kind of outcomes you'd like to see. Uh, and we
01:56:29.020
just don't have a lot of results out there in Arizona. Um, maybe Carrie Lake can kind of, you
01:56:34.180
know, no pun intended, Carrie Blake Masters over at the top on that. Um, these West coast,
01:56:39.340
West coast States, we're just going to have to wait longer to, to get some more results in here. But
01:56:42.780
I just feel like, you know, in a lot of these States, it's been a case of where Republicans went in
01:56:46.780
with high hopes, really feeling good. And again, issue environment about as good as they possibly could ask for.
01:56:52.320
And they have fallen short. And I think against some very flawed candidates like John Fetterman
01:56:56.560
and Maggie Hassett, I guess that's the other thing that's kind of nagging at me. It's, it's not just,
01:56:59.800
you know, who you're losing. It's not just that you're losing. It's who you're losing to
01:57:03.640
in the kind of environment that really you should have the wind at your back.
01:57:07.560
Hmm. Um, want to tell you this, NBC news now projecting JD Vance as the winner in Ohio,
01:57:14.220
uh, 53.8% at this point, again, not a big surprise, but he did struggle and they did
01:57:20.540
criticize him for candidate quality. Um, he went very Trumpy and sort of election denial-y,
01:57:26.520
um, but then sort of try to moderate that when he got the nomination. And, you know, I, I,
01:57:32.900
she's got a ton of support. It's Ohio. Trump carried the state. He's doing better in these
01:57:37.280
counties from what I read than even Trump did. So I think that's probably a comfortable call.
01:57:43.680
So that's an important one, Tom, because the GOP needed to protect, if it's not going to win these
01:57:47.740
other States, it needs to protect what it has. Right. So it protects Ohio. And now all eyes are
01:57:52.920
on Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. Yeah. And, you know, I've been tracking the vote
01:57:59.000
as it's coming in and comparing it to where the polls were and where our averages were. And,
01:58:02.880
you know, we had JD Vance in our real clear politics average leading that race by eight
01:58:06.880
points. That's about what he's coming in at, what he's going to win it by. Uh, Ted Budd was up 6.2
01:58:12.200
in our average. He's last I checked, he was at about four. He might end up about five. Rubio was
01:58:18.140
plus 8.8 and he obviously doubled that. So way outperformed his polls. And in New Hampshire,
01:58:23.560
we had Maggie Hassan leading by 1.4%. And she's obviously going to way outperform that. So,
01:58:28.820
um, you know, had the Georgia race, Herschel Walker was, uh, up 1.4 and the average of polls.
01:58:35.460
And, you know, for a while there, he was at 1.4, 1.1. I mean, I think it's going to be,
01:58:40.660
you know, right around that area. We had, um, you know, Adam Laxalt's up, uh, 3.4 in the,
01:58:47.340
in the poll average. We'll see where that comes in. Blake masters was up three tenths of a percent
01:58:52.080
and Oz was up four tenths of a percent. So it looks like Oz is going to fall short and we'll
01:58:56.100
see what happens with Blake masters, but the polls, you know, Ron Johnson was up 3.6. We'll see where
01:59:01.120
he ends up, but you know, for barring a couple of States, uh, you know, the, the people who are
01:59:06.220
heading the polls one, um, and a couple of them actually outperformed, but, but a lot of them
01:59:10.640
came in right on the number. All right. Before I left you go, I'll let you go. Cause we're up
01:59:14.280
against it. Uh, do you still both predict the GOP who takes the house tonight and by about 20?
01:59:21.000
Yeah, that's about where I put it at this point. Yeah, I agree.
01:59:24.260
Okay. And are you still predicting GOP takes the Senate by like one quickly?
01:59:31.980
Yeah. You know, Laxalt don't make me look stupid.
01:59:38.560
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