The Megyn Kelly Show - Red Wave？ Megyn Kelly's Election Night Special, with Larry Elder, Bari Weiss, David Sacks, Dennis Prager, and More ｜ Ep. 430

00:00:00.000 Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to the Megyn Kelly Show's election night special.

00:00:06.600 We are live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 and for the first time ever live on YouTube.

00:00:13.560 That's fun. Hope you're watching us on YouTube. And if you are, you can send us questions in the

00:00:18.660 chat and I will try to answer as many as I can throughout the next two hours. That's also

00:00:22.900 something that I was not able to do with you guys while I was live on Fox and NBC. So this is better

00:00:27.800 and I'm really enjoying myself. Plus, I've got leggings on. So that's a plus or joining us on

00:00:34.960 the show this evening. We've got a cast of all stars, Dennis Prager, Barry Weiss, David Sachs,

00:00:40.400 Camille Foster, Larry Elder and many more friends of the show right now at 9 p.m. Eastern polls are

00:00:47.420 closing in several key states, including Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, New York and Wisconsin.

00:00:54.400 Already some key races have been called. The Associated Press projecting Florida Governor

00:00:59.040 Ron DeSantis, winner of the gubernatorial race in Florida. CNN projecting Florida Senator Marco

00:01:04.600 Rubio will defeat his Democratic opponent, Congresswoman Val Demings. The margins are

00:01:09.980 what's interesting there. And so far, it seems like a bloodbath. Meanwhile, exit polls showing the top

00:01:15.140 issue for voters was the state of the economy. And CNN's exit polls showing only five percent of

00:01:20.940 people polled felt enthusiastic about the direction of the country. The New York Times tonight, and I'm

00:01:27.800 not kidding, this is true, wrote tips on how its readers can deal with election night results.

00:01:34.440 They include, quote, breathe like a baby and, quote, plunge your face into a bowl of ice water.

00:01:41.860 I guess when you cater to the snowflakes, you need to offer tips like that, though, if you are a

00:01:45.400 snowflake, you surely shouldn't be putting yourself in a bowl of ice water. It's not going to end well.

00:01:49.360 It's going to be a fun couple of hours, so we're going to get started. Let's get right on it. When

00:01:53.000 it comes to analyzing election night results straight down the middle, there is no better

00:01:57.480 place to look than the team at Real Clear Politics. I've been relying on them for the entire time.

00:02:03.140 I've been a journalist. Tom Bevan is the man behind it. He's the co-founder of RCP and its president,

00:02:08.640 and he's here with us tonight to get us started. Tom, so great to have you. How are you doing?

00:02:13.440 Great to be here, Megan. Thanks for having me.

00:02:15.520 All right. So what's your overall take on what you've seen so far?

00:02:17.740 Well, I mean, it's still early in a lot of these states, but as you mentioned,

00:02:21.560 you know, the margins in Florida were really impressive for Ron DeSantis, 19 points and Marco

00:02:28.180 Rubio, 16 points, winning Miami-Dade County. I mean, just all sorts of Republican strength shown in the

00:02:38.060 state of Florida. And we've seen that state growing more red over time, but this was really,

00:02:42.460 you know, Republicans flexing their muscles in the state of Florida.

00:02:46.840 As far as some of the Senate races, you know, it's early in Georgia. That race is very, very close.

00:02:52.200 A lot of votes still to be counted. Close in New Hampshire. No call in Ohio or North Carolina yet.

00:03:01.680 Both of those races are still being counted. So some work to do, even though in Ohio, the governor's race

00:03:06.320 was called almost immediately. Mike DeWine reelected and Chris Sununu in Hampshire was

00:03:10.720 immediately called as well. So and we'll have to see what happens out West. I mean, obviously we,

00:03:16.160 you know, we had this situation in Arizona with Maricopa County and the malfunctioning tabulators.

00:03:22.260 But it looks like Republicans out there are, the turnout's pretty strong in both Arizona and

00:03:28.060 Nevada. But again, a lot of votes still to be counted.

00:03:29.740 All right, let's go through a few of those that you just ticked off. First, Florida,

00:03:34.280 the Miami-Dade County in particular, as I understand it, DeSantis and Rubio both won that

00:03:40.300 by double digits. And this is a county that Hillary Clinton won by 30 points in 2016. The enormous

00:03:48.860 swing toward the GOP in what was a pretty solidly blue county when it came to voting. What explains it?

00:03:55.920 Well, the Hispanic vote, I mean, it's a 70% Hispanic county and the Cuban-American vote there

00:04:03.240 has swung very hard toward Republicans. But just generally speaking, I mean, I think independence

00:04:08.380 broke for Republicans there and, you know, Ron DeSantis' strength. You're right. I mean,

00:04:13.200 this was a county that Democrats, it was one of their strongholds for a long, long time. It hadn't

00:04:19.460 been won by a Republican since Jeb Bush in 2002. So it's been two decades since this has happened.

00:04:25.300 And obviously, Jeb Bush was a very popular governor as well. So, look, it just shows that I

00:04:30.420 think, you know, particularly in the state of Florida, Ron DeSantis is extremely popular. Marco

00:04:35.380 Rubio, you know, people were thinking that this race was going to be, the Val Demings was going

00:04:39.700 to be, give him a real challenge. The polls were tight initially. And then at the end, he sort of

00:04:44.380 broke away and he even outperformed his polls by, I don't know, I think seven or eight points.

00:04:49.700 It's interesting for many reasons, including what it portends for 2024. You know, if Florida is

00:04:54.700 officially red because it was purple and both sides fought for it hard, if Florida is officially

00:05:00.380 red, I mean, that's that's a terrible development for the Dems because it's so rich in its electoral

00:05:04.420 votes. They, of course, have meantime been turning other previously reddish or purple states blue,

00:05:10.340 like Virginia, like they're focused on Georgia. They're even thinking about Texas. So, you know,

00:05:15.220 it all could even out in the end, but an interesting trend. OK, let's talk about what's happening

00:05:20.040 in in well, Pennsylvania and Georgia. And then we'll move out west right now. Georgia Senate race

00:05:27.060 Warnock. He was at 50 percent so far in the vote. Now they just lowered him down to 49 percent. Only

00:05:32.160 48 percent of the votes, as I understand, are in right now. Warnock is at 49. Walker's at 48.

00:05:38.060 It's neck and neck. I'm very, very reluctant to talk too much about the early vote count and how

00:05:45.640 each candidate is doing, because in nine out of 10 cases, the early vote count heavily favors the

00:05:50.400 Democrat. And what we're looking at isn't isn't real. It's not meaningful to just take a sample of the

00:05:56.780 votes so far and say, oh, this is what we know. I mean, we don't we don't really know much.

00:06:02.760 That's right. We don't. And it's gotten worse. Right. You have you have this real bifurcation

00:06:07.340 between Democrats who are banking a ton of early vote, more so than in the past, and Republicans who are

00:06:14.320 for various reasons, including, you know, election integrity issues have sort of shied away from

00:06:19.340 from voting early and doing mail in ballots. And so they overwhelmingly show up on election day.

00:06:24.560 So you really do have this, you know, you have a huge portion of the vote Democrats coming in

00:06:30.220 before the actual election day and then Republicans. So it is tough to to figure out.

00:06:34.540 You really do have to wait until you get a decent amount of the vote in before you can start trying

00:06:38.660 to figure out, OK, and even then you've got to know where the vote is, where it's coming in.

00:06:42.220 Is it coming in from the cities? Are we waiting on rural counties? So it's it's a pretty complex

00:06:46.680 thing to try and, you know, suss out exactly where the vote, but which vote has come in and which vote

00:06:52.440 is still left out. But right now it does look like in in some of these counties in Pennsylvania and

00:06:57.960 Georgia that Fetterman is underperforming Shapiro, the Democrat at the top of the ticket for the

00:07:04.580 governor's race in Pennsylvania, and that Herschel Walker may be underperforming Brian Kemp

00:07:09.580 in the same situation down in Georgia. Is that a surprise to you? It looks like there may be

00:07:13.660 some ticket splitting going on.

00:07:16.220 Not at all. I mean, that's that was evident in the polls. And that was one of the interesting

00:07:19.140 questions about this. This election is how how many ticket splitters were there going to be out 0.99

00:07:23.920 there? You know, was Brian Kemp really going to win as if the polls are correct, that he would win

00:07:28.960 by five or six points and Herschel Walker would lose or that, you know, Shapiro would win by 10 or 12

00:07:34.340 points and John Fetterman would lose. There there is some ticket splitting going on a little bit.

00:07:41.480 We just look at New Hampshire where you've got, you know, again, Sununu one is going to win over

00:07:46.220 one overwhelmingly. And yet you've still got a really, really close race at the Senate level. So

00:07:51.220 not not terribly surprising to see that Fetterman is running behind and that Walker is running behind

00:07:56.940 Kim. Are you surprised about Ohio that they called for the governor's race, but they didn't call for

00:08:01.860 J.D. Vance or for his opponent? Not really. I mean, the polls, same thing. DeWine was up 15,

00:08:07.180 20 points in the polls. Vance was, you know, at six, seven, eight points. And so that wasn't

00:08:13.180 totally unexpected that they would do a snap call on the on the governor's race, but hold off on the

00:08:17.660 on the Senate race there. All right. Let's move to Arizona, because what happened in Maricopa

00:08:22.260 County is making all sorts of news. Harmeet Dillon, a lawyer to a lot of GOP years, including

00:08:26.540 President Trump and including in this case, Carrie Lake and and the GOP has filed a lawsuit

00:08:34.220 to try to keep the polls open in Maricopa County till at least 10 and to not start tabulating

00:08:39.320 the votes or releasing them publicly until 11 p.m. because the voting machines, according

00:08:45.240 to local officials, were printing ballots that didn't have enough ink. So the proper lines

00:08:50.520 weren't showing up. They say that they've rectified the situation. But according to Carrie

00:08:55.800 Lake and a Harmeet's lawyer to the lawyer Harmeet's petition, she says that voters were told

00:09:03.400 when they showed up, oh, you can just spoil your ballot, you know, throw it away and then

00:09:09.040 you can just go to another polling station and you can vote there. And that voters then

00:09:12.840 did that only to be told, oh, no, you cannot. You you started at this other place and we're

00:09:18.820 not going to let you vote here because how can we be sure that that vote didn't go through?

00:09:22.520 People got upset. They were allowed to cast provisional ballots, but they don't know if

00:09:25.560 they're going to be counted and so on. It's been kind of a mess. And that has Carrie

00:09:29.760 Lake saying the following, because keep in mind, her opponent is the secretary of state

00:09:34.440 who oversees the integrity of elections. Here's her soundbite one. 1.00

00:09:37.500 Do you think this is normal, guys? My question is, do you think what's happening here in Maricopa

00:09:45.900 County is normal? We have had problems after problems. And there's a reason we decided to

00:09:51.520 change locations. We were going to go to a pretty Republican area. But I woke up this morning and

00:09:56.960 within minutes of the polls opening up, I started getting people calling voters in tears, calling my

00:10:03.040 personal number, saying, what's going on? The tabulators aren't working. They told me to put

00:10:08.240 my my ballot into a box and they would drive it downtown to county. This is not normal stuff.

00:10:13.840 We don't have to have elections running this way. We switched from a Republican area to vote. We came

00:10:18.760 right down to the heart of liberal Phoenix to vote because we wanted to make sure that we had good

00:10:24.160 machines. And guess what? They've had zero problems with their machines today. Not one machine spit out a ballot

00:10:31.200 here today. Not one in a very liberal area. So we were right to come and vote in a liberal area.

00:10:37.840 They got to fix this problem. This is incompetency. I hope it's not malice, but we're going to fix it.

00:10:44.400 We're going to win. And when we win, there's going to be come to Jesus for elections in Arizona.

00:10:49.760 There's going to be a come to Jesus. She says, I hope it's not malice, suggesting that her opponent

00:10:56.040 may have been up to some funny business there. I will tell you this just in NBC News reporting,

00:11:01.300 the judge in Maricopa County rejected the request to keep the polls open beyond 7 p.m. Arizona time,

00:11:06.800 citing a lack of evidence that anyone had been prevented from voting. If it's tight out there,

00:11:13.540 Tom.

00:11:13.880 I mean, it's just unbelievable that after what happened in 2020 and all of that, the state had

00:11:24.540 two years to get their stuff together and to show up on election day. Again, remember, not just that

00:11:30.620 Katie Hobbs is the secretary of state, but the Democrats have banked a lot of their early vote

00:11:34.720 or a lot of their vote in the early voting period. And knowing that it's overwhelmingly Republicans

00:11:39.540 that are going to show up on election day to vote, that 20 to 25, even 27% of the tabulating

00:11:46.320 machines in the largest county in the state do not work is just unbelievable. And listen,

00:11:54.540 I hope everybody who wanted to vote got a chance to vote. And I hope this all works out. But it

00:12:01.180 absolutely invites, I mean, if this race comes down to, and Cary Lake or Blake Masters lose by,

00:12:05.800 you know, 5,000 votes or a half a percentage point or one, you know, one percentage point,

00:12:12.120 it absolutely invites the kind of speculation that, you know, something was not on the up and up.

00:12:19.140 And, and that's just, that's the political landscape where, again, hopefully it doesn't

00:12:22.740 come to that. And hopefully, you know, whoever wins in Arizona will win by a margin that will,

00:12:26.980 you know, sort of preclude any, anybody thinking that, that this snafu that happened

00:12:31.920 today was, was done in any sort of deliberate way. You know, this just came in, Tom, uh, MSNBC

00:12:37.760 reacting to this whole situation that you and I are discussing. Listen here.

00:12:42.980 So the fact that Arizona is already the epicenter of the big lie 2022 is not an accident.

00:12:50.180 The cyber ninjas aren't coming to get them this time. But again, as, as, as January 6th committee

00:12:55.060 presented all the evidence, it was like, oh yeah, they did all that in public. As we're covering

00:12:58.600 Arizona tonight, they've done it all in public. Remember, this was

00:13:01.920 the big lie 2022. I mean, this is already.

00:13:08.580 I mean, listen, I, you know, you can't watch MSNBC. I mean, they had someone on earlier who

00:13:13.640 was saying that, you know, there's been more voter suppression going on in Georgia this year than

00:13:18.180 there ever has been in the past, which is just absolutely absurd. I mean, imagine what MSNBC would

00:13:23.340 be saying if the largest county in let's say Georgia, okay. Uh, where there were, you know,

00:13:31.900 overwhelmingly Democrats were going to turn out to vote and suddenly, you know, one fifth of the

00:13:36.840 machines malfunctioned. Imagine what, what they'd be saying, uh, you know, in that circumstance. So

00:13:42.640 you just kind of have to ignore that. And exactly. And as Carrie Lake points out

00:13:46.560 in no other counties, if the, if the ballot machines were working perfectly in all the GOP

00:13:51.960 counties, which is what Carrie was saying that, you know, you've got an opponent who's in charge

00:13:56.840 of this whole situation. It just so happens that in the red leaning County, the, the printers weren't

00:14:02.100 loaded with the proper ink. This was just an ink, uh, solution. It seems so simple to both break

00:14:08.320 and to fix. Yeah. They'd be losing their minds. Tom, we'll get back to you.

00:14:12.420 I will say this real quickly, Megan. I mean, the numbers that are coming out of Maricopa County and

00:14:15.660 other counties, by the way, in Arizona look very, very good for Republicans. And it seems like this

00:14:21.600 may not have, have affected. It may have actually energized Republicans who were pissed off about,

00:14:27.460 you know, the snafu and went to different locations, whatever. We'll see how long it takes to

00:14:30.980 count the ballots and where this ends up, but it, it may not have, uh, it may have actually

00:14:35.180 improved the Republican turnout in, in Maricopa, uh, because of the way this all went down.

00:14:41.380 And to reiterate, they were given provisional ballots apparently. And so if things did get

00:14:46.880 very tight, there should be a record of how they tried to vote. Tom, we will be back to you, uh,

00:14:51.780 often throughout the next couple of hours, Tom and our pal, Jim Garrity of national review are

00:14:56.400 hanging out with us all night to keep us up to date on all the breaking developments. Um, so we'll get

00:15:00.720 back to them as well. And certainly if something big happens joining me now, Larry Elder, he is the

00:15:06.040 host of the Larry Elder show, which can be heard on more than 300 radio stations nationwide. Larry,

00:15:12.700 it's not good to have something like that kicking off, uh, one of, one of the big races that we're

00:15:18.160 all watching in both the Senate and the gubernatorial race, uh, in a state that's already under the

00:15:23.700 microscope from 2020, Arizona.

00:15:28.120 No, no, it's not good. And, uh, uh, I was, um, an early supporter of Carrie Lake. I've known her for a number of

00:15:34.040 years, uh, campaign for her and campaigned with her, attended a rally with her. Uh, and this is almost

00:15:39.820 unfathomable. And as you pointed out, her opponent is a secretary of state. So, uh, it certainly invites, um,

00:15:45.480 speculation as to whether or not the, the, uh, election is on going to be on the up and up in the event that it's a close

00:15:50.400 election as Tom pointed out. One of these things that I find fascinating though, Megan, about this

00:15:55.500 whole business about election deniers is a Democrat spent about $50 million getting various so-called

00:16:01.540 election deniers nominated on the Republican side because they assumed that they would be easier to

00:16:05.840 beat. Furthermore, for years, I mean, years, uh, people like Hillary Clinton, uh, people like Al Gore,

00:16:11.840 Stacey Abrams have been talking about how their elections were unfair, stolen. Uh, they were victimized 1.00

00:16:17.340 by voter suppression and nobody called them election deniers and nobody accused them of

00:16:21.220 undermining the foundation of America Republic. So the hypocrisy is just almost bone chilling.

00:16:25.960 You have Jimmy Carter, the former president of the United States saying in 2019 that he thought the

00:16:31.220 Russians put, uh, Donald Trump in office. There was a 1,000 page Senate report. They made two major 0.53

00:16:36.740 conclusions about 2016. Conclusion number one, the Russians tried to change voting machine,

00:16:41.340 voting machine tallies, but they failed to change a single one. Jay Johnson, Obama's DHS secretary,

00:16:46.480 testified under oath. The Russians failed to change a single vote tally. Yet 66% of Democrats,

00:16:51.960 according to a YouGov poll, believe the Russians changed vote tallies to elect Donald Trump.

00:16:56.040 The other major finding was that we have no idea, said Jay Johnson, whether or not the Russian

00:17:00.760 interference, and there clearly was interference, altered the outcome of election or affected, uh,

00:17:05.480 public opinion. Yet, according to Gallup, 78% of Democrats believe the Russian interference

00:17:10.540 altered public opinion. In other words, a greater percentage of Democrats believe 2016 was,

00:17:15.360 quote unquote, stolen. The Republicans who feel the same way about 2020, yet nobody called them

00:17:19.680 election deniers. Hillary's, Hillary's social media platforms were never shut down, even though she 0.80

00:17:24.740 referred to Donald Trump many times as illegitimate and many times referred to the 2016 election as

00:17:30.040 stolen. So the, you know, the hypocrisy is just, as I said, bone chilling, a jaw dropping. I'm running 0.52

00:17:34.660 out of, uh, running out of ways to express it.

00:17:36.360 We know we get the point. And meanwhile, the Washington Post tonight has got a running tally

00:17:41.300 of how many of the quote, election deniers get elected. They're, they're keeping a list and

00:17:47.160 taking names, Larry. And I'm sure, you know, we'll see whether Stacey Abrams winds up on that list.

00:17:51.660 It doesn't appear that she will, because she's not on track to win. Want to bring you this bit of

00:17:55.720 breaking news. Um, Fox news decision desk is calling the Texas race for governor, Greg Abbott,

00:18:00.880 um, putting an end to Beto O'Rourke's, you know, how many challenges has this been him challenging

00:18:07.380 him, Ted Cruz and so on. It is not to be for Beto, notwithstanding his weird dancing videos at the end

00:18:13.380 to the surprise of no one. Let me get to this. The exit polls have some fascinating information in

00:18:18.820 them. And my overall impression on it, Larry is it's, it's not good for the Democrats and it's

00:18:24.420 absolutely awful for Joe Biden. Um, the numbers, yes, we're not surprised to see inflation is the

00:18:30.660 most important issue and the voters trust the Republicans to handle it more than the Dems.

00:18:35.620 I will say I was surprised to see close behind it was abortion. 32% say inflation is number one,

00:18:40.100 27% say abortion is number two. On abortion, they trust the Dems more by a 10 point, 10 percentage

00:18:45.660 point margin. Um, and that, but you get to like the overall numbers. Okay. Economy, 75% say the economy's

00:18:53.020 poor or not good. Uh, inflation, 78% say this past year inflation has caused their family

00:19:00.540 moderate or severe hardship. Um, you go down the list on values. There are society's values on gender

00:19:10.300 identity and sexual orientation changing for the worse or for the better 50%. They're changing for

00:19:16.480 the worse. Only 27% say they're changing for the better. 20% say neither. I could keep going,

00:19:21.800 but on the cultural issues, on the economic issues on crime and so on, these voters are ready to pull

00:19:28.080 the lever for the Republicans. Abortion as it turns out was indeed the Democrats best issue. 0.67

00:19:34.380 Yeah, it turned out it was their best issue, but of course it wasn't the major issue. The major

00:19:38.600 issue of course is inflation, gas prices. Uh, and then you talk about crime, you talk about the

00:19:42.680 borders, but here's something else too, that I think is going on for the last several years,

00:19:46.380 we've had all of this wokeism, uh, big push for diversity, inclusion, equity. So it's infused

00:19:51.280 every segment of our society, academia, media, big tech, uh, people are walking on eggshells,

00:19:57.260 lest they be perceived, uh, as racist. Uh, Ibram Kendi, the anti-racist would probably be smiling

00:20:02.840 about how anti-racist America is. So if America is anti-racist, if you're black or if you're brown

00:20:08.900 and you no longer think of yourself as victimized by systemic racism, then you begin to think of

00:20:14.880 yourself the same way other Americans think of themselves. I'm worried about crime. I'm worried

00:20:18.320 about inflation. I'm worried about whether or not my kid is going to be infused with critical race 1.00

00:20:22.280 theory. I'm worried about the borders like everybody else. You can't on the one hand attack

00:20:26.320 America for being racist and, uh, put in all these programs and policies and pressure to make America

00:20:32.220 more sensitive to race and then say, it didn't matter. It didn't matter. You're still a systemically

00:20:36.500 oppressed. So I think that they have kind of been, uh, victors of their own success in convincing

00:20:41.460 people that we need to lean over backwards to avoid the appearance of being racist because more and

00:20:45.920 more black and brown people say, okay, what about the things that affect me? What about when I go 0.85

00:20:50.220 to the gas station? What about, uh, when I take my kid to school? What about, uh, inflation? What

00:20:54.800 about the fact that I'm paying $400 or $500 a month more for the same goods and services that I paid

00:20:59.940 two years ago? This is what's going on in the country. Uh, and the Democrats are going to pay for

00:21:03.960 it. The numbers on race, uh, according to the exit polls, racism is a major problem. 50% of voters

00:21:09.780 said, yes, minor problem, 30%, not a problem at all. 16%. So you have 46% saying it's either minor

00:21:17.100 or not a problem. You got 50% saying it's a major problem. And by the way, we don't know what kind

00:21:23.120 of racism those folks are talking about. You know, those could be Asian Americans though,

00:21:26.100 because it was going to be any, any type of Americans. Um, and so I think the Democrats are

00:21:30.440 going to be surprised to see that their messaging has not, has not resonated in the way that they would

00:21:35.380 expect, especially given their total control of the media. Uh, you look at how things are going in

00:21:40.380 the United States and this is number one, how are things going in the United States? 73% of today's

00:21:46.140 electorate is either angry or dissatisfied, angry or dissatisfied. That's why in these midterm

00:21:53.760 elections, the party in power tends to lose seats and lose a lot of them. And Megan on the racism thing,

00:21:59.940 people might be talking about racism on the left. I'm in Los Angeles and, uh, there were three

00:22:04.660 members of the LA city council on a leak tape. They were, they were Latina all talking about how 0.97

00:22:09.420 they're going to suppress the black vote, making horrific statements about Jews, about even fellow 0.94

00:22:13.700 Mexicans, uh, and, and about whites. And so I think a lot of people feel that, um, this business of 0.94

00:22:19.780 America being systemically racist, uh, is something that, um, not just a white, uh, Christian male

00:22:26.200 Republicans are guilty of, but also people on the left are guilty of. And again, I think people are sick 0.99

00:22:30.560 of it. You can't have a vice, a president, uh, named Barack Obama reelected with the worst economic

00:22:36.040 recovery since 1949, uh, getting a higher percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did four years

00:22:40.980 earlier and still talk about how racist America is. It's not going to fly.

00:22:45.360 What do you make of the wrong track? That's basically the right track, wrong track. How are

00:22:48.420 things going? 73% say they're angry or dissatisfied. I guess how many are enthusiastic about the way things

00:22:54.120 are going? 5%. 5%. And of course, Joe, Joe Biden, his popularity is in the forties. You put the wrong

00:23:02.460 track, uh, and his popularity, uh, and again, gas prices up a hundred percent since we, since he took

00:23:07.400 office, uh, inflation highest it's been since 40 years. You add it all up. It's not good. And because

00:23:13.280 Biden was in charge of government, uh, the Senate, uh, and the house, it means Democrats were able to do

00:23:18.660 pretty much what they wanted to do. And here are the results. Uh, it's not quite as bad as California

00:23:23.400 or the Senate and the assembly are super majority Democrats. But the point is when the Democrats are

00:23:28.580 in complete control, this is what happens. Tax, spend, regulate, inflation, bad news.

00:23:34.840 Yeah. I mean, the numbers are actually dreadful and that really does explain what's happening today

00:23:39.060 when you have that and you have, uh, 34% of the electorate today, 65 or older, compare that with

00:23:46.400 just 22% back in 2020. That's not good because the older vote tends to go Republican. I mean, this is

00:23:52.740 just a fact, more young people would be better for the Democrats, more older voters would be better

00:23:57.320 for the Republicans. And every year the Democrats try to chase that youth vote. Like it's going to be

00:24:02.660 their, you know, their savior. And every year the young people disappoint them. And especially in a

00:24:08.020 midterm, it tends to be old people to old people who care about politics and get out there and vote.

00:24:11.800 But that doesn't stop them from trying. I'm in LA. There's a suburb of LA called Culver City. Believe

00:24:16.860 it or not, there's a proposition to lower the voting age to 16. Uh, and if you look at the polls,

00:24:21.900 people who are 16 years old, 17 years old, they tend to be more left-wing than their parents.

00:24:25.760 That's why they're doing it in order to hold onto power.

00:24:28.040 Um, I'm getting a question for you from one of our YouTube viewers, Robert Neal, who asks, uh,

00:24:33.860 ask Larry, if you will run again, maybe from mayor of LA, how about mayor of LA?

00:24:39.000 Well, there's a very interesting mayoral race going on right now between Karen Bass, 1.00

00:24:42.840 a longtime Democrat and Rick Caruso, who was a longtime Republican. Then all of a sudden,

00:24:46.960 before he registered to, uh, run for mayor, he switched over to, uh, to Democrat. He is a

00:24:51.940 multi-billionaire who's outspent his opponent 10 to one. He spent a hundred million dollars of his own

00:24:57.180 money and it narrowed the gap, but he's still down by about four or five points. Last I checked,

00:25:01.760 as far as myself is concerned, uh, I am thinking about running for something else, but it's not

00:25:06.440 going to be, um, California. It's going to be something a little bit bigger. Uh, I'm, uh,

00:25:10.940 been spending a lot of time in Iowa, Megan, and in New Hampshire. Uh, and you know why those two

00:25:16.040 states are important. I haven't made a decision yet, but sometime next year I will, and I'm giving it

00:25:20.460 strong consideration, not because I want to displace Donald Trump or Ron DeSantis. I think they're both

00:25:25.040 great people. And I, and I love Donald Trump, ran for him, ran with him, uh, rather campaigned with

00:25:31.680 him, supported him, and certainly will enthusiastically support him in the event that

00:25:34.920 he becomes a nominee. And I suspect he will. I'm going to talk about some of the other things you

00:25:39.280 and I've been talking about, which is the demise of the nuclear intact family and this BS about

00:25:44.520 systemic racism. And I think I could talk about those things in a compelling way that maybe some

00:25:48.860 of the other Republican candidates cannot. Wait. So our audience member, Robert Neal has broken a

00:25:53.660 little news with you here, Larry. It's not just LA mayor, which might be on the table. It's a

00:25:58.040 presidential challenge, even in the GOP primary, even if Donald Trump runs, would you actually

00:26:02.840 challenge him? Even if Donald Trump runs, when I ran for governor here, I didn't say one negative

00:26:07.780 thing about any of my Republican rivals. Unfortunately, they did not return the favor,

00:26:11.900 but no, I'm not going to say anything negative about these guys. I'm going to talk about all the

00:26:15.860 issues we talked about tonight, the inflation, uh, the gas prices, this, this war against oil and gas,

00:26:21.020 the poorest borders, but also the fact that the welfare state has incentivized women to marry the 0.98

00:26:25.620 government and incentivize men to abandon their financial and moral responsibility. And now 40%

00:26:30.320 of kids born today in America enter the world without a father married to the mother. 70% of

00:26:34.440 black kids do. Half of Hispanic kids do. 25% of white kids do. It is a national scandal that neither 0.96

00:26:39.780 party, in my opinion, is spending very much time talking about. And the other thing is about systemic

00:26:43.520 racism. It is a lie. It's pitting each other against each other. It's causing cops to pull back. It's

00:26:48.960 called the Ferguson effect or the George Floyd effect. And the people that are killed most because

00:26:52.800 of the excess deaths are black and brown people living in the inner city. And we need to talk a

00:26:57.240 lot more about that. My father never knew his biological father. So it's not a death sentence.

00:27:01.440 He grew up dirt poor, uh, eighth grade education, uh, clean toilets, two full-time jobs doing that.

00:27:07.320 Megan fast forward, he started a little cafe. My dad retires in his early eighties. And when he retired,

00:27:11.960 his net worth was close to a little bit under a million dollars. And my father was a Patriot,

00:27:15.940 a Republican, a Christian, and he believed in hard work. And he would not let my brothers and

00:27:20.500 me whine about anything at all, given the comparison between our circumstance and the

00:27:25.720 circumstance he grew up in Athens, Georgia during the Jim Crow South. So the fact that you have young

00:27:30.020 people running around talking about systemic racism to me is an abomination. And we ought to

00:27:33.820 be talking more about that and tell them to knock it off, invest in yourself, work hard, get an

00:27:37.880 education. Don't have a kid before you're 20 years old, get married first, get a job, keep a job,

00:27:42.300 don't quit the job, avoid the criminal justice system. You will not be poor.

00:27:47.100 Larry Elder. So great to talk to you. Thank you so much for being here tonight. We'll continue to

00:27:51.480 follow your own hat in what race it's, it gets thrown into, whether it's mayoral or presidential.

00:27:57.540 See you soon. Thanks for being here.

00:27:59.480 My pleasure. Thank you.

00:28:00.660 Just to update you guys again, uh, that, that lawsuit that we told you about that Harmeet Dillon

00:28:05.060 filed on behalf of Carrie Lake and others in, uh, Arizona has been rejected by a Maricopa County

00:28:11.580 judge, uh, saying that there was no one who had been denied a ballot that no one's vote was not,

00:28:18.180 uh, counted as a result. So that put a little check Mark next to that, just in case it gets

00:28:23.540 really tight in Arizona. Uh, we've got a few more race calls coming in CNN projecting Sarah Huckabee 0.54

00:28:29.760 Sanders, the one-time press secretary and communications director for former president Trump

00:28:34.540 will win Arkansas's gubernatorial race. How about that? God, she took so much incoming. They were so nasty

00:28:40.380 to her. Of course, her dad, Mike Huckabee, uh, became a star as the governor of, uh, that same

00:28:46.200 state. And so it's nice to see, uh, the daughter take the baton CBS news projecting Republican

00:28:51.080 Marjorie Taylor green will win reelection defeating democratic challenger Marcus flowers. They called

00:28:55.620 that early and quickly CNN projecting democratic Congresswoman Cori Bush will win reelection for 0.72

00:29:01.320 Missouri's first congressional district race. Another squad member is safe. That's how we get members

00:29:06.440 of the squad because they run in very, very, very blue areas in which those politics are celebrated

00:29:12.040 and are not problematic. CNN, speaking of the squad, also projecting Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio

00:29:17.860 Cortez will win reelection as well in New York's 14th as expected. So we are keeping a close tab on the

00:29:24.320 house where despite Cori Bush and AOC winning Democrats appear to be panicking about low turnout in

00:29:32.480 certain states, including Virginia. Helping us analyze breaking news all night is my pal, Jim

00:29:37.340 Garrity. He's the senior political correspondent for national review. His newsletter morning jolt is a

00:29:42.680 must read, especially during election season. And he's also from Virginia. So Jim, you're the perfect

00:29:47.900 man to talk to about low turnout there. Is it true? And what else are you watching right now?

00:29:53.380 I would say now, you know, when that was written, that may have been the case. And I was hearing from

00:29:57.960 Virginia Democratic analysts and strategists who were like, wow, we are not seeing the morning

00:30:02.760 numbers we wanted to see. As of this, worth noting in Virginia, the only race that was on the ballot

00:30:09.180 was house races. There was no Senate race. We took care of our governor's race last year with Glenn

00:30:14.500 Youngkin. That is basically, you know, if you're a Democratic congressman who was swept in in the wave

00:30:21.540 of 2018, sustained by the presidential turnout of 2020. This year, you were on your own. And I think

00:30:27.600 Republicans thought they had shots in three races this year. Right now, the networks are calling two

00:30:32.900 of them for Democrats. And it's kind of frustrating. Spanberger and Wexton. Wexton was going up against

00:30:38.240 Hung Chao, who I thought was one of the best candidates of the cycle. This is a fair, you know,

00:30:42.660 this is also post redistricting. These districts became a little less friendly for Republicans than they

00:30:47.880 had been before. But they thought they had a shot. And it looks like Hung Chao is going to be like,

00:30:52.360 you know, within three points, a very respectable margin. That's Virginia 10. You know, pretty heavily

00:30:56.880 Biden district. But the projection is that Wexton will be reelected. So I'm surprised about that.

00:31:03.200 Although honestly, the vote count I saw had her ahead. I don't think we have a Florida 2000

00:31:09.280 circumstance here. But, you know, keep an eye on that race. Then finally, the last one, which was down 0.89

00:31:14.780 in Newport News and is kind of the second congressional district, this is one of the districts that is

00:31:20.840 like, if not the swingiest in the country, it's probably in the top 10 or 15. Republican Jen Kiggins

00:31:27.180 has a lead of 55% to 44% over Elaine Luria. Looks like Republicans will get that one. I got to say,

00:31:34.320 though, based on this, and it looks like an early decision in Rhode Island's second district where Alan

00:31:39.600 Fung looks like he was going to make a competitive race in Rhode Island, which you don't usually see

00:31:45.300 all that often or any of the New England states, really. It looks like Magazine or the Democrat has

00:31:50.300 won that open seat race. So I think you can now say, based on what we've seen, it's 930. It's not.

00:31:56.560 It's fairly early. But I don't think the gargantuan red wave is occurring. I think you might get a

00:32:02.060 medium-sized red wave. These were the, you know, Virginia 10th, New Orleans 2nd. These were the seats

00:32:08.180 where, like, if you're a Republican and you really got the wind at your back, that's when you're like,

00:32:12.020 ah, we can get those. Looks like Republicans have fallen a little short on that. Still a lot of

00:32:16.980 competitive races out there. And I still think it's fairly obvious that Republicans will win the House.

00:32:21.240 Now they're looking at a, you know, 20-some seat majority, maybe low 30-something, rather than the

00:32:27.500 40-seat and 50-seat numbers that I saw people throwing around earlier.

00:32:31.540 They only need six. So, well, I mean, five, six. But they, so they're, I mean, we're still looking at a

00:32:36.580 likely GOP takeover of the House. But the question is, by what margin and how empowered would a Speaker

00:32:41.320 McCarthy be to reject sort of the more tribal base of the party? Would they, would he, could he reject

00:32:47.900 them on their agenda? Or would he be more beholden to them if he only has a small lead in terms of the

00:32:55.480 numbers? So we'll see. We'll see. But how are you feeling so far about the Senate, given what we've

00:33:00.680 seen so far? And I realize it's so early. I hate trying to make projections based on partial vote,

00:33:05.600 especially when we all know that the earliest vote that comes in is the mail vote, which tends

00:33:10.040 to be heavily Democratic. So it's all, it does feel mirage-y.

00:33:13.980 Yeah, I was going to say that I think so far in the night, there are two big stories or two big

00:33:18.040 surprises. Look, we all knew that Ron DeSantis was going to win Florida. We all knew there was a

00:33:22.820 really good chance Marco Rubio was going to win his reelection bid. Rubio, last I checked, was up by 15

00:33:28.460 percentage points. And DeSantis was up by 19 percentage points, right? So the story, you know, I saw you

00:33:33.660 talking about this with Tom Bevin earlier, you know, Florida is now not just like, it's a crimson

00:33:39.300 state. It is an intensely red state. And I think if you're Republicans thinking about the 2024

00:33:43.720 presidential, you know, bid, a guy who can clean up in that state like Ron DeSantis looks really

00:33:48.860 appealing right now. I think the interesting contrast is that we haven't seen this necessarily

00:33:53.220 in lots of other states. It looks like Ted Budd is going to win in North Carolina. I don't see too

00:33:59.160 much Republicans panicking about that, but it doesn't look like a terribly big margin. The

00:34:02.980 Republicans I'm hearing are not panicking about J.D. Vance. I think that, you know, they think he

00:34:07.900 finishes on top, but it's not going to be a terribly wide margin. It looks like he may have underperformed

00:34:12.700 a bit. It's kind of too early to tell in a bunch of these other states. Don Bolduc up in New Hampshire.

00:34:18.900 Now, look, they've only counted a little bit of the vote out there, but Democrats are saying they think

00:34:22.980 Senator Hassan is holding on there. You know, time will tell, but I don't think you've seen, you saw

00:34:28.460 a huge Republican wave in Florida that is not being mimicked in other places. Now, it doesn't mean

00:34:33.400 Republicans aren't going to win, but I think maybe, you know, Republicans are going to look at the

00:34:37.080 results, at least as we've seen so far, and be slightly disappointed. Not, you know, oh, this is

00:34:42.000 terrible, but just a recognition of, okay, we did not hit that gargantuan red tsunami, red tidal wave

00:34:48.740 that we were, you know, like visions of sugar plums dancing the heads in the final days of the

00:34:53.500 election. Yeah. Well, we were looking, going in to see whether it would be a tidal wave. It would

00:34:58.100 just be like a normal wave that you could surf, or it would just be a little, like a little puddle,

00:35:02.920 like a little tiny, teeny, tiny wave that you would still put your little two-year-old in the

00:35:06.860 ocean with. So any of those, I think, would be acceptable to the Republicans, so long as they win

00:35:12.300 control of at least one body of Congress. But they prefer, of course, the tsunami. So far,

00:35:17.000 we don't have a tsunami. And you're questioning whether it's too early to call that Spamburger

00:35:21.800 race, because some have called it for her. Yeah, I mean, I have no reason to think that,

00:35:26.240 you know, this is some grandiose effort to call it too early or something. Just the last time I

00:35:31.980 had checked that the Republican was ahead there. One other point, I guess we should point out for

00:35:35.900 the House is they redistricted, they redrewed the district lines in Florida, just tried to get a

00:35:40.500 couple of districts that, you know, Biden had actually won to be a little more Republican leaning.

00:35:44.600 And it looks like all Republicans won all three of those districts. Now, as you mentioned at the

00:35:48.600 beginning, when you need six and you can pick up three in one state, you're probably doing pretty

00:35:52.320 good. Yeah, your odds are pretty good. Jim, we will be back to you in just a bit. Thank you so much.

00:35:57.000 And don't be a stranger if you get news. Governor DeSantis, as we mentioned, won the state of

00:36:01.940 Florida. He just gave his victory speech after being the projected winner over Democrat Charlie

00:36:05.920 Crist, saying, we chose facts over fear, education over indoctrination. Today, after four years,

00:36:13.000 the people have delivered their verdict. Freedom is here to stay. Joining me now,

00:36:18.280 Emily Jashinsky is she's culture editor at The Federalist and Ryan Grimm, who is the DC bureau

00:36:23.800 chief for The Intercept. Together, they co-host the newly launched show Counterpoints. Thank you

00:36:30.660 both so much for being here. So that's, you know, I'm glad to hear him talk about education over

00:36:35.420 indoctrination because he's been fighting some of the culture wars that are important to a lot of us,

00:36:39.760 especially parents who have been trying to fight back against these woke agendas in our schools and

00:36:44.720 actually just forgetting that getting them into the schools has been a bonus in states like Florida

00:36:50.220 over the past two years. So, Emily, let me start with you. What do you think of what we've seen

00:36:53.800 so far? Surprised at going as expected? What?

00:36:58.040 I think right now it's going pretty much exactly as expected. I'm looking at Georgia, Texas and Florida.

00:37:05.040 One of the most interesting races we've seen so far has been a race that everyone expected the

00:37:10.620 candidate who won to win, but one that I think the margin is very telling in and could be very

00:37:16.440 positive for Republicans. And that would be Florida's 27th. That's where Maria Elvira Salazar 0.96

00:37:21.380 cruised to reelection. I'm looking at the margins here in front of me in my notes. It was a big one.

00:37:27.160 I mean, you could basically call this a blowout for her. That's a district that Daily Cost goes and 1.00

00:37:32.200 looks at, you know, how districts have been redrawn and whether or not Trump or Biden would

00:37:37.280 have won. The Daily Cost estimate is that that was like a razor thin margin, barely for Trump.

00:37:42.340 And Maria Elvira Salazar won it by double digits. That's in Miami. And so that's something that you

00:37:48.960 can see the Cuban vote, at least. If not, maybe that speaks more broadly for the Hispanic vote. And

00:37:53.820 that's where when we look at Texas, I want to see what the margins look like in the 34th. That's

00:38:00.120 where Myra Flores is running. She's a congresswoman right now. She is up for reelection. If that's a 1.00

00:38:05.580 big margin, that's another really positive sign for Republicans going forward, not just tonight.

00:38:11.020 So in Georgia, you know, Herschel Walker needs to clear a 50 percent threshold, inching closer to

00:38:16.840 that. It's a tight margin. But as more and more votes come in, if he hits that 50 percent threshold,

00:38:22.340 he doesn't have to go to a runoff. But in the bigger picture question of where things go after

00:38:26.860 tonight, whether or not we are witnessing a political real realignment, I would still encourage

00:38:31.120 folks to be looking at Florida and Texas in particular. Brian, the strength of abortion as

00:38:39.200 an issue amongst these exit polls is, I have to say, it's surprising to me. 32 percent saying

00:38:45.600 inflation is their number one, 27 percent saying it's abortion. They trust the Democrats to handle

00:38:50.840 that more than the Republicans by 52 to 42. Inflation obviously affecting a lot more people.

00:38:59.380 And on that, they were they trust the Republicans. But I suppose this could this could be influencing

00:39:04.200 how some of these races are tighter than we would be seeing if we were expecting full tsunami.

00:39:10.640 Yeah, I never quite understood why people thought that the issue of abortion would just

00:39:16.440 kind of be a thing that was like in the news. Oh, the Supreme Court did that thing. That was a while

00:39:22.360 ago. And now we're all moving on from that because people are getting pregnant constantly. Like this is 0.98

00:39:28.880 this is an issue that has been with us for 50 years. Trust the science. Trust the science. People are still

00:39:34.960 getting pregnant, believe it or not. And abortion rights still matter to people, whether or not it's 0.98

00:39:40.040 like on the front page of The New York Times. In fact, we pull these up here, like in both Kentucky and

00:39:45.900 Michigan, it looks like abortion rights are going to win. This is it's early. But with more than half 0.98

00:39:51.160 the votes counted in Kentucky, that amendment is up by nine points. So that the no, it's no in

00:39:58.220 Kentucky. They were trying to put abortion ban into the Constitution. Looks like Kentucky voters are

00:40:03.620 going to reject that. Well, it could it could surge around, but I doubt it. And in Michigan, it's up by 13

00:40:10.760 points right now. So both places, you know, where it was, it's also on the ballot in California that

00:40:16.620 that one's not in doubt. But to see it in Kentucky, I think, you know, fits with the data that you're

00:40:22.320 seeing there. And the only thing I'd add, I'd quibble with you on something you said earlier with

00:40:26.660 Larry, which is that they always hope that young people show up and they never do. Young people very

00:40:31.140 much showed up in 2018. And that was like the backbone of the of the blue wave in 2018.

00:40:37.840 We don't know yet what youth turnout is going to look like. And I think there is a link between

00:40:43.400 abortion rights and youth turnout, too. It's not just women like this is this is something that for all

00:40:49.320 people under 4030 that is, I think, resonates more than than with older, more conservative voters.

00:40:56.480 Well, I have to laugh. I mean, after the after Dobbs came out and you saw all the guys at Barstool

00:41:01.400 Sports speaking out like this is an outrage, a little on the nose, guys. So so, OK, young people

00:41:09.120 could, in fact, turn, although in the midterm elections, it'd be very shocking to see a huge

00:41:12.680 young person turnout. That's not that is that would definitely be atypical. But we'll we'll find out.

00:41:19.100 I do wonder, though, about these economic numbers, because they're so bad for the Republicans

00:41:25.300 that my instincts tell me as the night goes on, these numbers are going to get stronger and stronger

00:41:29.600 for the GOP. And what we're seeing now, you know how they talked about the red mirage, we're kind

00:41:34.000 of we might be seeing a blue mirage, not that they're showing that they're winning, but they're

00:41:39.880 showing greater strength and they're going to wind up with, Emily, because all the mail in ballots

00:41:44.760 are what's been counted first. And those tend to go blue. Right. I think what we're learning right

00:41:50.260 now is whether the difference is going to be it's a good night for Republicans, a predictable

00:41:54.600 night in a bad economy with an unpopular president or a great night that's sort of buoyed by the

00:42:00.940 fact that you have realignments happening, perhaps in Democratic areas with heavy Hispanic

00:42:05.740 voters where you're seeing marginal but significant shifts in the black vote, particularly the black

00:42:10.420 mail vote. Wisconsin is a state to watch for that. What happens in Milwaukee is a state to

00:42:15.120 watch for is a place to watch for that. And that's we don't have any idea what's going to

00:42:20.040 happen there. And we won't for the next hour or so. So the difference between good and

00:42:24.880 great is really significant. I think in this case, particularly because it bodes for, you

00:42:29.520 know, whether or not it's politics as usual, or a realignment, whether the real alignment

00:42:34.340 is real and significant and showing up in elections, not just in sort of the media navel gazing

00:42:40.600 chatter, but actually showing up in the polls. So I think we still have a couple hours to go

00:42:46.100 until we know whether or not this election is evidence of that. What do we make of the exit

00:42:51.640 polls showing Ryan 68% to two thirds of midterm voters do not want to see Biden run again? My God,

00:42:59.500 that number. That's those are numbers that you get when Democrats agree with Republicans. I mean,

00:43:05.340 you know, basically every Republican, except I bet it would be even higher if it weren't for

00:43:11.360 a significant number of Republicans. So I suspect answered that question because they think he'd

00:43:16.380 be beatable. It's like, like, you'd have a lot of Democrats actually, who say, Hey, do you want

00:43:21.840 Trump to want to do you want Trump to run 2024? And you'd have a significant chunk, you'd be like,

00:43:27.980 yeah, because I think that he is the only Republican that could lose in 2024. And so in a poll like that,

00:43:34.360 you would mistake those kind of partisan, clever answers to that poll as people who actually support.

00:43:40.900 So I think the numbers would are actually worse for Biden than, than, than that.

00:43:47.700 I mean, all the numbers here for him are terrible direction of the country. The gas numbers,

00:43:54.140 the economy numbers, and so on, how angry the electorate is 73% angry or dissatisfied with how

00:44:00.820 he's doing. So he's going to be watching this. And I do think tomorrow, even if the Republicans only win

00:44:06.060 the house, we're going to start to see the pieces about how Joe Biden needs to go. The problem for them

00:44:10.160 is there's no heir apparent. There's not, there's, you know, Emily, I don't know who they go to. I

00:44:15.260 don't, I don't sense a push, like a push in this electorate to see the Democrats go farther left.

00:44:21.320 And that would be Gavin Newsom, right? Kamala Harris. I think we all know she can't do it. 1.00

00:44:27.000 So I really do wonder, given these, this terrible verdict for Joe Biden, what the Democrats do tomorrow

00:44:32.260 after they realize they've lost at least the house of representatives.

00:44:35.580 You know, I think they continue to spin. And this puts me back in those days after Donald Trump won

00:44:41.140 the election in 2016. And I thought to myself, well, if the host of Celebrity Apprentice winning

00:44:46.660 the presidency over the former secretary of state doesn't shake the media and the political

00:44:51.520 establishment into some form of self-correction, then literally nothing will. And they flirted with

00:44:57.780 it for a couple of days. And then, you know, it was Russia collusion within a few months of that.

00:45:02.400 And what we saw was everybody sort of going in the other direction. And I think we've already

00:45:07.340 seen evidence of that. I mean, we've seen evidence already of people in the sort of

00:45:12.700 chattering space, whether they're pundits or professional Democrats. You've had some,

00:45:18.600 you know, introspection, Hillary Rosen on CNN saying she wasn't happy with the race Democrats

00:45:22.920 won this cycle. But you're also already seeing Stacey Abrams, for instance, blame disinformation. 1.00

00:45:27.400 We've seen that happen in Florida and Texas. Democrats blaming disinformation for losses

00:45:32.160 with Hispanic votes. And we've already seen intimidation and other things invoked by people

00:45:37.380 like Rachel Maddow just tonight. And so I think it's going to continue to be the lack of self-introspection

00:45:44.180 that really hurts Democrats going forward. And I think that ends up, you end up keeping Joe Biden

00:45:49.020 in a situation like that because you're blaming phantom bigotry and phantom X, Y, and Z without ever

00:45:56.260 really grappling with those problems, unless you're at like third way or these sort of centrist places.

00:46:00.800 Right. You actually want to take an honest look at it. Well, I'm I mean, I'm sure the Washington

00:46:05.360 Post will get its list of election deniers going again tomorrow in the wake of the results tonight,

00:46:11.420 just so we can be sure that we have accountability on on both sides. Ryan Grimm,

00:46:15.940 Emily Jastensky, it's great to see you both. Thank you so much for being here.

00:46:20.280 Thanks, Megan.

00:46:20.720 Thank you, Megan.

00:46:50.720 Colorado landed for the GOP tonight, Tom.

00:46:54.000 Yeah, that's right. You know, the polls had this about a five or six point race. And so that's why

00:47:00.560 I think Republicans thought, OK, if we get a big wave, it'll be in play. Not happening.

00:47:07.100 You know, Washington is the other one that was polls had that even closer, a three or four point

00:47:13.480 race. Now, those votes are still out. I mean, they haven't even started counting in Washington state.

00:47:17.460 Polls haven't been closer yet. So that remains to be seen. But overall, it looks like that big wave

00:47:23.100 for Republicans in in the in the House and the Senate is it's not the dream is not going to happen.

00:47:30.440 It's not going to be, you know, 50 seats in the House and five or six seats in the Senate.

00:47:34.820 It's going to be less than that. And it looks like Republicans are still going to take the House. 0.89

00:47:40.160 And, you know, you look at some of these Senate races, they're close. The numbers continue to move.

00:47:44.900 Republicans. J.D. Vance is slightly ahead in Ohio. Ted Budd is ahead in North Carolina.

00:47:49.740 The Herschel Walker race is about a, you know, I think last. Let's see what we have here right now.

00:47:57.020 We've got it at Warnock's forty nine point five. Walker's forty eight point six. So it's less than a

00:48:03.840 point away. And both of them, again, got to remember if they don't if neither of them get to 50,

00:48:08.980 we're doing this again in a month. How much reporting six. So so how much is reporting?

00:48:14.560 What percentage of the vote is in what percentage of the vote is in what percentage of the vote is in

00:48:18.620 in Georgia? Seventy three. Seventy three. OK, so you still got, you know, twenty seven percent of

00:48:24.240 the vote out again. Don't know exactly where that is or who that's going to benefit in the end. So

00:48:29.680 it's going to be really, real close. All right. So that's what you're seeing, Georgia. That's not

00:48:33.400 a surprise. Right. Nobody was projecting on any side that it would be some decisive victory by

00:48:37.280 one or the other. What about Pennsylvania now? Because I'm sure these Republicans who are I mean,

00:48:42.040 look, Colorado, losing Colorado does not change the entire forecast for the GOP. They haven't lost

00:48:47.840 one of their big states that they needed to hold or that they were hoping for as a reach state.

00:48:54.120 But what's so what's happening so far in Pennsylvania? What's happening in Arizona?

00:48:57.800 What's happening in Nevada? What's happening in New Hampshire?

00:49:01.300 Yeah. So Pennsylvania, we got thirty two percent reporting and Fetterman's up fifty four to forty

00:49:06.340 three. So now that number was I mean, when we started, it was eighty three to nineteen.

00:49:11.080 So, you know, they're starting to count some some of the in-person vote today.

00:49:16.400 And Oz is obviously closing that gap. I expect it will continue to close again.

00:49:20.360 A ton of vote left to count out there. We don't have anything going on in Arizona at the moment.

00:49:27.300 We don't have anything going on in Nevada at the moment.

00:49:30.960 And you look at New Hampshire and they've got about thirty three percent of the vote in right

00:49:35.280 now. Maggie Hassan's up 18 points on on Bulldog. So, again, a lot of votes still to be counted in 1.00

00:49:41.600 that state as well. Yeah. Thirty three percent of the vote there. I saw something suggesting that she 0.95

00:49:46.320 was outperforming Hillary in some of these districts. I don't know that that tells us much.

00:49:53.840 It's not that, you know, Hillary did so great. She did win the popular vote, but she didn't win the 0.96

00:49:58.380 election. But is there anything in the tea leaves now? Because you stay farther east. We can actually

00:50:02.900 look at more tea leaves. We know more about the vote. We know more about the early vote tallies

00:50:06.180 out west. We're waiting for people to finish up. Right. So any tea leaves in New Hampshire?

00:50:12.040 No, I mean, just remember, though, when Hillary ran in twenty sixteen, it was a very close state, 1.00

00:50:16.440 not so much in twenty twenty. Joe Biden won it by about seven and a half points. Again, you have

00:50:20.500 Chris Sununu on the top of the ticket. Popular incumbent Republican governor gets a lot of votes. But

00:50:26.080 this was a late primary. It happened in September. It was a fairly divisive primary

00:50:30.080 and Bulldog wins. And Sununu comes out and says, you know, I'm not voting for him. I won't endorse

00:50:35.060 him. You know, called him, I think, you know, bad names, election denier, all that. And so

00:50:41.480 that, I think, is might have put a damper on his numbers, even though he was able to close at the

00:50:46.860 end. We'll see how many crossover votes there were in this race. But that could end up being the

00:50:50.880 difference. Hmm. Tom, we will be back to you soon, I hope. Joining me now, author and journalist

00:50:57.260 Barry Weiss. Barry edits the Substack newsletter Common Sense, and she hosts the podcast Honestly.

00:51:03.980 Barry's fired up about The New York Times tips for readers on how to deal with this

00:51:07.340 election results. I can't get enough. I'm here with my weighted blanket. Yeah, I don't know if you

00:51:12.860 saw it. The New York Times offered five ways to soothe election stress, which includes tips like

00:51:19.400 plunge your face into a bowl of ice water for 15 to 30 seconds. Maybe I'll do that. Breathe like a baby

00:51:26.380 was one of them. Another was something called five finger breathing. I live in LA. So you would

00:51:31.900 imagine that I would know what that is. But, you know, I'm expecting them to update this with whatever,

00:51:37.860 whatever the next recommendation will be, maybe hot milk and cookies for the millions of Americans

00:51:44.980 who are terrified by what they are seeing tonight. This reminds me after Trump won when our schools in

00:51:50.700 New York City at the time and so many others around the country gave the kids a day off. They were like,

00:51:55.860 oh, my God. And of course, everyone's going to leave school to go to the Women's March and everyone

00:52:00.140 needs counseling. It was just a presumption that you were distraught and that your child needed therapy

00:52:04.560 going into tonight, understanding that it was very likely the Republicans were going to take at least

00:52:08.740 the House. They knew what their needed, their readers needed. I would venture to say they're

00:52:12.620 exactly right, Barry. Yeah. I mean, red wave, red tsunami, red trickle. I suspect many people

00:52:18.540 are going to be calling in for mental health days across the coast of this country.

00:52:22.820 Right. And and we'll become election deniers like that. You wait, it's gonna be fun. I'm going to tell

00:52:27.580 my team first thing in the morning, get the tapes ready, get like, let's see who does it. And let's get

00:52:31.420 the hypocritical tapes going. One of the things that watching cable yet, but I'm going to do that 0.61

00:52:36.140 after. Yeah, exactly. We'll compile this out and you'll see and you can use them. One of the big

00:52:41.760 issues that we're looking at tonight, though, it's not it's not the top issue like inflation and it's

00:52:45.960 not the second issue, which is abortion is crime. The voters do care about crime. And that was

00:52:51.980 reflected in the polls. It's got it's basically tied with gun policy coming in at 12 percent care about

00:52:57.740 that as one of their most important issues. So it goes inflation, abortion, crime, gun policy and

00:53:02.660 immigration coming at a 10. That was a little earlier in the evening that might have been

00:53:06.320 updated since then. Crime has been something that Dr. Oz ran on big time in Pennsylvania to tighten

00:53:14.200 that those numbers when he was getting killed by Fetterman in the polls. We saw it in Michigan where

00:53:19.920 Tudor Dixon was trying to take aim at Governor Whitmer. We've seen it in state after state where

00:53:25.520 you you know, the more sort of reddish candidates have said this Democrat is soft on crime and they

00:53:31.860 are to blame for the numbers. How big a factor do you think that is tonight? And what do you think

00:53:35.700 is happening? I mean, do you think it's the reason Lee Zeldin even had a chance coming into today?

00:53:40.760 Exactly right. I think I think of states like New York, Oregon, not states that you think of as being

00:53:46.960 up for grabs in any way at all. And yet somehow they're in play. Right. In New York, you have

00:53:52.060 Republican Lee Zeldin running against incumbent Kathy Hochul. And the entire time he's recently

00:53:58.300 running on crime. And she's saying, I don't know what you're talking about. You'll remember in the

00:54:02.720 debate between the two of them, she said something like, I don't know why you care so much about that.

00:54:07.420 I can't quite think of a of a clip that would be more out of touch with voters. And then a few days

00:54:11.960 ago in an interview outside of the subway, she was asked about safety riding the subway. And of course,

00:54:17.040 there have been a spate of just unbelievably horrific attacks often being carried out by people with 1.00

00:54:21.940 multiple previous counts. And she said that Zeldin was hyperventilating about crime. Now,

00:54:29.620 all major crimes, with the exception of murder, are up in New York City right now. And you know,

00:54:35.120 it's bad when Stephanie Rule on MSNBC, this happened a few days ago, was interviewing Kathy 0.99

00:54:40.500 Hochul. And she said, we don't feel safe. I don't go on the subway. She talked about going into

00:54:47.120 Rite Aid and CVS is and it's this is the case in L.A. This is the case in San Francisco. This is the

00:54:51.680 case in parts of New York. And not just having the razors behind lock and key, but having basic

00:54:57.320 necessities like toothbrushes and toothpaste and tampons, because that's how regular shoplifting

00:55:04.340 has gotten in places like New York City. Now, in Oregon, it's it's a sort of similar story,

00:55:09.420 right? You don't think of Oregon as a place where a pro-life, pro-gun rights candidate for governor

00:55:15.700 would even have a chance. Right. And yet Christine Drazen is in a dead heat in the race for governor. 1.00

00:55:21.700 And there's a reason for that. We just ran an excellent piece on our Substack Common Sense by

00:55:26.300 Leighton Woodhouse, who went to Portland, not exactly known as a MAGA stronghold, and talked to all of

00:55:31.920 these liberals and Democrats who are saying, basically, I'm voting for her. And the reason I'm

00:55:37.200 voting for her, even though I'm pro-life, I'm sorry, even though I'm pro-choice,

00:55:40.580 even though I'm a lifelong Democrat, even though I'm gay, you know, and she put out an ad to this

00:55:45.500 effect, is simply because the city has become unlivable because of crime, because of homelessness,

00:55:52.460 because of basically drug policies that have allowed for just for open use. People talk about

00:55:58.040 the city being in shambles, how they're scared, men and women, to walk alone at night in the streets

00:56:03.620 of Portland. So as much as Democrats wanted to sort of run this election on questions of, you know,

00:56:10.120 democracy being in peril for people who are living in neighborhoods where I'm speaking of mine right 0.97

00:56:16.120 now, catalytic converters are getting stolen out of people's cars on a regular basis. You know,

00:56:20.900 that just rates higher than things like democracy and abstract issue or climate change for people.

00:56:27.160 Do you think in the in the way that the last go round, the tape of of Abigail Spanberger down in

00:56:34.940 Virginia went viral? It got leaked of her talking to her Democratic colleagues saying this defund the

00:56:40.380 police stuff is toxic. We cannot go forward on this messaging. And that was brave because it was,

00:56:47.220 you know, that was 2020 that she said that now or two years later. And you still you still have

00:56:52.940 some of these races being dictated by messaging like that. Mandela Barnes against Ron Johnson in

00:56:58.680 Wisconsin. He's a defund the policer, the Democrat Mandela. He's he's a no bail guy. Kathy Hochul has

00:57:05.320 been dealing with the no bail policies here in New York. In New York City, they took away money from

00:57:10.140 the police before they then quietly said, oh, shoot, that was a bad idea. Here it is back again.

00:57:14.440 So I wonder whether at a minimum this election is going to put an end to that nonsense once and for

00:57:20.120 all. I really hope so. I mean, I think the convenient thing and the thing that we'll surely be hearing on

00:57:25.440 many of the cable stations tonight, you know, is that. The Democrats had a messaging problem or,

00:57:32.860 you know, the spin about disinformation and misinformation and the things that I'm sure

00:57:36.560 are already being said on those networks. But I think it's really simple. You know, people this

00:57:42.040 election was about people being totally dissatisfied with the direction of the country, dissatisfied with

00:57:48.260 the economy, dissatisfied with crime. Many women dissatisfied with the repeal of Roe v. Wade. But

00:57:54.540 again, that's a real issue. These are real issues that affect actual people's lives. And you could

00:58:00.440 imagine, you know, what would have happened if Democrats in some of these places had said,

00:58:04.740 you're right, take an accountability for things like rising crime, take an accountability for the

00:58:09.780 price of gas, take an accountability for and we haven't mentioned this yet, COVID lockdowns,

00:58:16.520 right? And learning loss and the kinds of things that parents across this country are just beginning

00:58:22.120 to understand the full ramifications of. Those are the kind of people that want accountability

00:58:26.940 for their life getting worse over the past few years. And that's really what the election's about.

00:58:32.100 And, you know, for the sake of the Democratic Party, I really hope they're able to look in the

00:58:35.680 mirror and see that. Having this TikTok videos with, you know, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer

00:58:42.720 talking about people with periods rather than women is not the way to win the election. 0.92

00:58:49.100 Hmm. This is what's so annoying about an exchange that went viral from The View the other day.

00:58:56.740 Sunny Hostin said that because in the wake of the Wall Street Journal report that women, 0.99

00:59:02.700 suburban women were now favoring the GOP over the Democrats after a 27 point swing by by 15 percentage 0.99

00:59:10.680 points. And she couldn't understand it and said that is like a cockroach favoring raid. 0.86

00:59:17.680 And so finally, no one reacted to that until this week. One of her co-hosts brought it up because

00:59:26.400 virtually everybody on the right or even in the middle said, what the hell kind of comment is

00:59:31.160 that? Right. For all the reasons you just stated, there are really good reasons for women of all

00:59:37.000 persuasions, Democrat, Independent and Republican, to consider going team red this year.

00:59:42.280 And the following exchange took place. Listen, it's not five.

00:59:47.280 Last week you called white Republican women cockroach. 1.00

00:59:49.940 Actually, I didn't. 1.00

00:59:50.880 But you said they're acting like cockroaches. 0.97

00:59:52.740 I used an assimilator. 0.97

00:59:54.100 Let me answer that. 1.00

00:59:55.440 You said I called white women roaches. 1.00

00:59:57.560 Go ahead and respond. 0.99

00:59:58.160 My mother's a white woman. 0.98

00:59:59.200 So I wouldn't say that.

01:00:00.320 Go ahead and respond.

01:00:00.880 Second of all, what I used was a metaphor, really more an assimile.

01:00:04.340 Assimile.

01:00:04.700 And I said, white women, Republicans, I just read a poll that the suburbans are now voting 0.80

01:00:12.320 Republican. That is like roaches voting for raid. Now, by the way, that wasn't my joke. Let me 0.98

01:00:19.060 finish. That wasn't my joke. That was John Leguizamo's joke. It's a joke that I've used

01:00:23.900 on this show a few weeks ago. Let me finish referring to Latinos. And no one had anything 1.00

01:00:30.760 to say about it. The last thing I'll say is, I continued by saying, do they want to be

01:00:36.560 in Gilead? Do they want to lose their rights? They're voting against their first interest.

01:00:40.580 I'm trying to make you consider a perspective.

01:00:41.500 So you are actually twisting what I said.

01:00:45.760 No, no, that is what you said. What you said is it's like roaches. 0.86

01:00:48.200 Then don't say that I call white women roaches. 1.00

01:00:52.340 She absolutely did. She said, white woman getting ready to pull the lever for the Republicans 1.00

01:00:59.000 are like roaches voting for raid. And her mother may, in fact, be a white woman. 1.00

01:01:05.060 But I'm going to venture a guess that she wasn't a white woman who voted Republican or votes 0.97

01:01:10.040 Republican because those are the ones Sonny hates. And all you need to do is tune into the

01:01:15.600 view for two minutes on any given day to know that.

01:01:19.520 I make it I make it a policy for myself not to watch the view. So this is the first time

01:01:23.600 that I was seeing those clips. Unsurprising. And I guess what I'll say is just the total lack

01:01:29.620 of curiosity about what might drive people of whatever race, but especially angry moms who 1.00

01:01:36.560 we saw in Virginia in the governor's race. Right. Glenn Youngkin. Why did why are so many

01:01:42.420 lifelong liberals, so many lifelong Democrats, so many women, even pro-choice women willing

01:01:49.460 to, frankly, in some cases, hold their nose and vote for the Republican? It is because

01:01:54.040 of the past few years and policies that have deeply impacted negatively their families. And I really

01:02:01.960 think that the COVID hangover is an enormous part of this for a lot of people. You know, the fact that

01:02:08.440 these parents were at home, often holding down jobs, seeing their kids not learning basic math,

01:02:14.980 basic English. And we're supposed to, what, just move on and forget that that ever happened.

01:02:21.980 Right. Elections are about accountability. Elections are about reckonings and holding the people who

01:02:28.000 put policies to account. And I think that's a lot of what's going on here. And I hope I didn't use any

01:02:34.220 similes or bad metaphors in that answer. Not that that would save you from the outrage you would

01:02:40.120 justifiably cause if you were to do what she did. Barry Weiss, so good to see you, my friend. I would

01:02:45.660 love to talk again more soon and in more depth. We will. Great to see you too, Megan. Lots of love.

01:02:50.740 All right. The New York Times Needle issuing the latest projection saying the House is leaning

01:02:55.920 Republican with a 72 percent chance of control. The Senate remains a toss up. Back with the very latest

01:03:02.600 is Jim Garrity of National Review. Jim, what's the biggest headline you're seeing right now?

01:03:07.120 Well, look, as we discussed in the last segment, Republicans are going to win the House. They

01:03:12.500 needed to not trip over their own shoelaces. And they were going to pick up seven seats.

01:03:16.980 A lot of factors working in their favor, redistricting, state of the economy.

01:03:22.480 So that's not really surprising. The only question is how big is the majority?

01:03:26.640 As I mentioned last segment, it's not going to be in that 35 to 40, the really big margin of that.

01:03:31.860 It's going to be a little bit less than that, but it's going to be sizable. And as I said,

01:03:35.280 Kevin McCarthy is going to have enough Republicans to probably have a manageable caucus starting in

01:03:40.720 January 2023. I think the outlook for Republicans in the Senate, you're looking more at like a 51,

01:03:47.280 52 majority if things break the right way, not that 53, 54 majority. I think right now,

01:03:54.180 New Hampshire is one of those states that counts the vote very slow. The polls closed at eight o'clock.

01:03:59.360 It's a little bit after 10. And I just checked. They have 25 percent of the votes that are counted.

01:04:05.680 Apparently they could really use some lessons from Florida. But Don Bolduc is down significantly.

01:04:11.720 Now this may be Maggie Hessen's parts of the state that are reporting first. I wouldn't panic yet. And

01:04:16.940 again, 75 percent of the state still has to report. So you don't want to draw any too many

01:04:21.380 far reaching conclusions from this. But I don't think even in the great scenarios, could you say,

01:04:26.760 oh, Republicans have got that one, right? That was going to be one where Bolduc was going to win

01:04:30.200 by one or two percentage points if things broke his way. Ohio, North Carolina, Wisconsin haven't

01:04:36.980 gotten calls on any of these yet. But I think they're all looking pretty Republican. Vance is

01:04:42.580 now in the lead again. Ted Budd is the lead in North Carolina. Ron Johnson had led the polls and

01:04:48.520 looks pretty good in Wisconsin. I do think in Wisconsin, they said they may not have all they were

01:04:53.380 said because of mail-in ballots and late ballots and all that other early votes that they had.

01:04:59.160 They probably wouldn't have it until early morning hours of Wednesday, possibly Wednesday

01:05:03.320 afternoon. So I think that one's Ron. Ron Johnson's got that one. But we may not know until

01:05:07.520 tomorrow. I will be here, Megan, if you'll be here.

01:05:10.120 We'll do it. Georgia, at this point, I think this is going to a runoff. Right now, that New York

01:05:16.540 Times doohickey, Herschel Walker has 49.1%. Raphael Warnock, 49%. The Libertarian Chase Oliver is

01:05:24.660 still getting just under 2%. It's very tough to hit 50 when somebody else is taking those last couple

01:05:30.320 percentage points in an evenly fought race. So good luck, Georgia. Good news, Georgia. You get to go

01:05:35.320 through this all over again. One more month of attack ads. It's like Groundhog Day. You get six

01:05:42.560 more weeks of winter of attack ads going back and forth in that Senate race. So a lot of this then

01:05:48.500 comes down to Arizona and Nevada. You talked about the trouble with the polling places in Arizona

01:05:54.820 earlier. I don't know about you. I was having flashbacks to office space and the jokes about

01:05:59.900 the printer that did not work and their desire to take the printer out and smash it when they said the

01:06:04.060 whole issue was a matter of printer ink not being dark enough for the machines to scan.

01:06:10.260 But the judge said there's no evidence. No one who wanted to vote has not been able to vote.

01:06:15.880 And then there's Nevada, where John Ralston is a guy who writes for the Nevada Independent. He's

01:06:20.760 been covering Nevada politics for a really long time. Knows it backwards and forwards. And it was

01:06:25.480 kind of very odd because he was going through the early votes and he doesn't know how everybody voted.

01:06:29.640 But you know, if a registered Republican, they're probably going to vote for Republicans.

01:06:32.480 He's a registered Democrat. They're probably going to vote for a Democrat. And he kept going through

01:06:36.400 the early vote. It looked really good for Republicans. And then he did his final prediction

01:06:40.440 and he predicted that Republicans would lose the Senate race, win the governor's race, and that

01:06:44.980 Democrats would hold on on three of the House races out there, which would kind of be a significant

01:06:49.320 underperformance considering the state of the economy, high inflation out in Nevada, all kinds of other

01:06:54.580 things that make you think, oh, I kind of thought Republicans would do better. Well, right now, it looks like

01:06:59.360 Republicans are doing well by that kind of back of the envelope math, but they may not have

01:07:04.160 everything counted until, you know, well into tomorrow. So I don't think we're going to know

01:07:08.140 tonight who has the Senate. I think it's going to drive people crazy. I think this is the fodder

01:07:11.800 that makes people think, ah, there's some shenanigans going in. They're going to find votes in a trunk of

01:07:16.940 a car or something like that. This may well be ordinary snafus and the sort of thing that happens,

01:07:22.600 but this does make people feel suspicious. And I think that it's going to be kind of frustrating

01:07:29.260 for Republicans that, you know, they kind of, maybe they got a little, I don't want to say

01:07:33.160 full of themselves, but just, you know, the hype of this wave, the hype of the size and the scale of

01:07:38.840 this wave looks a little big. You know, the network's called the state of Colorado for incumbent

01:07:45.020 Michael Bennett pretty much as soon as the polls closed. Joe O'Day was always a underdog out there,

01:07:51.440 but I think Republicans were hoping it was going to be close enough so that they couldn't call it

01:07:56.100 immediately, you know, make them sweat a little. That does not appear to have happened. And if you

01:08:01.580 couldn't make Colorado close, it's kind of hard to see a scenario where you'd make Washington state

01:08:06.080 close. Patty Murray looked a little bit nervous earlier in this cycle. They had a very good candidate 1.00

01:08:10.340 Republican smiley out there. But I think that this is probably, you know, all the ones that look

01:08:16.000 like, you know, reaches where Republicans needed a lucky break. I don't think they're going to get

01:08:20.220 those lucky breaks tonight. Well, and we talked about how tight it is in Michigan and how that

01:08:24.480 ballot initiative on abortion is drawing a lot of support, trying to make what they want. The

01:08:29.960 ballot initiative basically says, should the law look like it looked during Roe where you can abort

01:08:35.820 prior to viability? And that's apparently getting a ton of support. And so it almost reminded me of

01:08:43.140 the Karl Rove getting the gay marriage initiative all over the ballots in 2004 to help George W. Bush

01:08:49.040 win re-election. They needed to get people out to the vote somehow. Back then, that was a motivating

01:08:53.500 issue. And people credited his brilliance in doing it. That could put Gretchen Whitmer back in the 1.00

01:09:00.100 governor's house again over Tudor Dixon, who is very popular. Can I just ask you this question?

01:09:04.700 Glenn Greenwald has a good tweet. And as always, he raises good questions. It reads as follows.

01:09:10.940 Quote, we don't say election night anymore. It's now election month. End quote. NBC's Lester Holt and

01:09:17.460 Savannah Guthrie having a hearty laugh over the fact that the U.S., the world's richest country,

01:09:22.400 can no longer count votes or decide elections in one night or even in one week. Yeah, good point.

01:09:29.840 I mean, there's a reason that Florida works as well as it works. And ideally, we wouldn't have to go

01:09:35.580 through that kind of a hanging chad catastrophe and the other 49 in order to get results. But it's

01:09:40.740 kind of absurd, Jim, that we can't get real results from all these states for several days or a week

01:09:46.940 or, in the case of Georgia, another month. Yeah. You know, I was wondering if my memory

01:09:52.340 of past elections was kind of through rose-colored glasses of not saying, well, we're going to, you

01:09:58.040 know, maybe you'd have one or two races where it'd be really close and you'd have to wait until the

01:10:02.260 next day to hear, you know, how it shook out. But by and large, you knew who won. The networks

01:10:07.200 called it. The next networks had confidence in their calls. You didn't see something like,

01:10:10.580 say, in 2000, where they called the state of Florida for gore while the polls were still open

01:10:15.680 in the panhandle and then said, oh, wait, never mind. It's too close to call. That was an infamous

01:10:20.340 moment. And I almost feel like that was the moment where all of our confidence in our election started

01:10:25.060 to get a little shaky back there. I think you're correct. Look, some of this is undoubtedly states

01:10:31.080 that will not, most states, they start, if you do it in early vote or you mail it in early,

01:10:35.880 they will take it out and they'll count it so that when, you know, the polls close on election

01:10:39.500 night, they can add it into the polls and they can get that those votes counted very quickly.

01:10:44.340 There are a couple of states, including Pennsylvania and I believe Wisconsin, that do not allow them

01:10:48.840 to do that so that you have these basically these giant stack of envelopes and you can't really count

01:10:52.800 them until they start getting until the polls close on election. But it's also like, why is there a

01:10:58.160 giant stack of envelopes? Remember when we used to have there was a voting day and you had to go to the

01:11:02.240 polls and you had to make an effort. And part of the effort, like the effort was part of why it was

01:11:07.620 a big responsibility and how we sort of separated the wheat from the chaff. Like you had to really

01:11:12.400 want it. And it's one thing if you're disabled, you can't make it to the polls. We'd always

01:11:16.080 accommodate that. But now it's basically like, just go ahead and mail it in at any point. And look at what

01:11:21.820 happened in Pennsylvania. All these votes were mailed in before they even had the debate. Now, were those

01:11:26.340 people who were on the fence, were those people who, when they saw the debate, might have been persuaded

01:11:30.140 to go another way? I don't know. But I'd have a lot more faith in the integrity of the ultimate vote

01:11:36.020 if it were more controlled. You know, mail-in ballots make people feel a little hinky.

01:11:41.880 Yeah. Look, my home state and I believe the state of Minnesota both allow people to start casting early

01:11:47.980 votes in late September, more than 30 days before the election, which strikes me as really early. Now,

01:11:54.300 if you want it a week before, you think you're going to be traveling, you're afraid of,

01:11:57.360 you know, getting sick. In fact, I remember infamously the primary here in Virginia back in

01:12:04.200 2008 between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Here in Virginia, the polls close at seven and we

01:12:10.240 had an ice storm. I believe it was February. And of course, you had cars slipping and sliding all

01:12:14.580 over the roads because we don't know how to drive here. And as a result of that, people ended up not

01:12:19.200 getting to the polls because traffic was terrible. There were car accidents and stuff like that.

01:12:22.600 But yeah, all of this to me is a lesson of like, don't, you know, don't let it go. Vote before,

01:12:27.240 vote before you go to work. If you can do it at lunch hour, go do it at lunch hour.

01:12:31.420 But yeah, there's a circumstance in which you have people voting five months,

01:12:35.060 five weeks before election day, six weeks before election day. That seems ludicrous. And I think

01:12:39.600 the other thing is candidates like Fetterman, we can all now see why he was avoiding holding that

01:12:45.180 debate. You have a responsibility to hold that debate before the early voting really gets started.

01:12:49.880 He was committing a fraud on the electorate. I mean, honestly, that's what was happening.

01:12:54.460 And I just tell you, I'll take you a walk down memory lane. My Nana was born in 1915. And her mother

01:13:02.480 was one of those women who was alive when she couldn't vote. And then she could. And then it

01:13:09.660 became constitutional for her to vote. And she lost a leg to diabetes. And she still dragged herself down to

01:13:17.220 that polling station because so important it wasn't to her to make sure that she could vote.

01:13:22.180 And let me tell you that the supports for people who are disabled, I'm sure were not so great back

01:13:26.860 then. I just feel like today people are like, I'm busy. I'm not going to. So can't shouldn't we raise

01:13:32.920 the civic responsibility a level higher? I stole the last word. I got to move on. I'm coming back to

01:13:38.280 you, Jim Garrity. You're the greatest. Go get some more info and I'll I'll come right back. All right.

01:13:42.540 Want to bring you this news. ABC News now reporting that Kristi Noem has won reelection

01:13:48.080 in South Dakota. This is not this is not a surprise. And NBC reporting John Kennedy has

01:13:52.900 won reelection in Louisiana. Joining me now is Dennis Prager. He's a nationally syndicated

01:13:59.020 radio talk show host, columnist and founder of the great Prager University. Dennis, great

01:14:05.240 to have you here tonight. So how are you feeling based on what we've seen so far? Incomplete though.

01:14:10.460 Well, let me just first answer how am I feeling because I just got off the plane from Denmark.

01:14:15.200 I gave a speech in Copenhagen this weekend. And you're my first person outside of my wife that I'm

01:14:22.060 first American that I'm talking to. So happily, the plane arrived on time. I've been traveling for

01:14:29.040 about 18 hours. And it's wonderful to be with you. So now you're asking how I'm feeling about the

01:14:36.020 elections. Yeah. Is that correct? Yeah. Yeah. Lay it on me. Okay. So I have been asked everywhere from

01:14:44.040 L.A. where I live throughout the country and by phone and in interviews and in Denmark. Well,

01:14:52.480 so how do you think the elections will go? I tell told everybody I have no prediction. I think

01:14:58.300 that people like to talk themselves into optimism because people prefer optimism to pessimism.

01:15:06.160 I was not a pessimist. I was not an optimist. But I did not quite see the reason for all of the

01:15:15.140 optimism. What I think, and this is the point I'd like to make, I think that a lot of Americans like

01:15:21.460 myself think, after the horrors of the pandemic and what was done to kids, seeing what children's

01:15:29.520 hospitals are doing to children, seeing how many hundreds of thousands of kids are being ruined

01:15:34.760 in this lie that they're changing sexes and don't feel that they're their own sex when they're 11 years

01:15:40.940 of age, and seeing what has happened to the economy by the suppressing of a natural energy that we have

01:15:48.160 in our country, and so much more, you would think that if there was ever a time where there would

01:15:55.700 be a tsunami of objection to democratic left-wing rule, it would be now. So I have a sad thing to

01:16:05.840 report. I'm not going to lose sleep over it because I just know, I sleep well because I fight. And I

01:16:12.320 always recommend to people, if you want to sleep well, fight. But if the Republicans do not do well,

01:16:20.800 I can't imagine an election in which they would have better circumstances on their behalf. So

01:16:28.900 that's somewhat of a dark thought, but that's it. What about, I mean, I can challenge that because if

01:16:34.960 Dobbs had not come down when it did, you know, the Republicans were steaming through to what looked like

01:16:40.460 a bloodbath election, and then Dobbs was handed down, reversing Roe versus Wade, and their fortunes

01:16:47.580 changed, right? Democrats became much more motivated in the wake of Dobbs, even though it was a dream for,

01:16:52.760 you know, the pro-life right. And I think they still are happy with it, even if they don't win

01:16:57.220 this election in the way that they wanted, they're still going to be happy with Dobbs. But I do think it

01:17:02.080 would have been more favorable to the Republicans if that decision had not come down at the time that it did.

01:17:07.300 Yes, that's fair to say. And look, you know, it's funny, when you first said Dodd, I thought you said

01:17:14.100 God. So I thought, yeah, maybe God did come down. I don't know. I'll tell you what it really looks

01:17:21.920 like. Well, at least the devil, if not God. I mean, Trump was a shoo-in for re-election until COVID.

01:17:30.300 I mean, it does seem like there's this consistent bad luck, as it were, hurting the country. Forget

01:17:40.540 hurting the Republicans, hurting the country. But yeah, so what are people saying? That because I'm

01:17:47.820 so angry at the decision, which of course did not render nationally in any way abortion illegal,

01:17:55.840 because they're so angry about that, they're okay with what is being done to born children,

01:18:03.260 like 10-year-olds, 11, 12. They're okay with children's hospitals saying, visit us. We'll give

01:18:09.840 you a mastectomy. Again, I just say, what would it take if those things don't overshadow the Supreme 0.58

01:18:20.920 Court decision on abortion? And let me tell you, there is some information on that. I mean,

01:18:25.740 just a bit. But in the latest exit polls, are society's values on gender identification

01:18:30.480 and sexual orientation changing for the better? Only 27% say that it is. And 50% say, no, it's

01:18:40.080 changing for the worse. People are not getting more accepting of this nonsense. As it gets crazier 0.77

01:18:44.760 and crazier, they're voting for the party that does. No, that's well, maybe, maybe. I mean,

01:18:51.220 some are for sure, but you know, the night is young. Anything could happen. But on the question

01:18:56.220 of abortion, I am interested to ask you because they say abortion should be legal in all or most cases,

01:19:04.580 all or most 60%. Yes. Illegal in all or most cases, 36. Now I will say a lot of people,

01:19:14.740 misunderstand this question. Traditionally, when it gets handed to them by pollsters,

01:19:18.600 they don't think, when they think all cases, it's like they're not thinking, oh, up to the moment

01:19:23.760 of birth, right? I mean, like it has to be phrased to them in exactly that way for them to side as we

01:19:29.820 know they do, which is predominantly on the side of, no, not in the third trimester, always in the

01:19:34.560 first trimester, most women should be able to do it. And in the second trimester, it depends. 1.00

01:19:39.460 It depends on where you are. That's generally how the American public feel. But in any event,

01:19:43.040 big support here and 60% say they felt dissatisfied and angry about the way Dobbs was decided. There's

01:19:52.000 no question this has been a factor today. I agree with you. Yeah. But there are so many

01:19:58.880 gigantic issues that will determine the fate of this society. It is remarkable that that would be

01:20:08.580 determinative. I would love to ask somebody who is not a radical feminist, let's say, just why would 0.98

01:20:18.240 you vote on that and not all these other issues that the Democrats are responsible for ruining?

01:20:26.360 And I would just like to hear their answer, because I can't come up with a good answer to that.

01:20:32.340 So because of the abortion decision, again, as I said earlier, you're okay with hundreds of thousands 0.67

01:20:39.520 of kids being given puberty blockers that will ruin their lives?

01:20:45.800 Can I tell you this, though, Dennis, let me ask you this, because my feeling is the Republicans screwed

01:20:50.340 up on this. You know, they weren't prepared for Dobbs and the messaging that they needed around it.

01:20:55.720 They finally found their footing about two months in and settled on a, you know, around 15 weeks,

01:21:03.360 sort of the European standard is fine by us. Some of us would like a full ban, but we understand

01:21:09.060 that's not really acceptable to the American populace. So like 15 weeks with exceptions for

01:21:13.780 rape and incest and so on. They finally found that footing. But the Democrats ran the summer with

01:21:18.220 it's going to be ruled illegal. The Republicans are going to pass a law in the U.S. Congress banning it

01:21:25.280 in all 50 states. By the way, that would never be upheld. They do not have the power to do such a

01:21:30.240 thing. And the Republicans floundered. And I do think you have to give the Democrats their due

01:21:34.940 in scoring points on an issue with their base, at least, that was popular for them. And we're seeing

01:21:40.840 right. We're seeing that. Yes, I agree with you. I, I, I simply don't understand why the Republicans

01:21:48.500 don't take the, the issue of who is ruining your children, who decided to keep them out of school,

01:21:56.660 teachers unions, the, the, the handmaiden of the democratic party. We have so many powerful points.

01:22:03.780 And I so rarely hear them made.

01:22:08.180 All right, let me give you an update. ABC reporting right now, there are about 2000 votes

01:22:14.380 separating Warnock and Walker in the Georgia Senate race. I mean, it is tight down there.

01:22:22.100 And each man has fought for every single one of those votes. Boy, I'm really glad that that Maricopa

01:22:27.880 County voting situation didn't happen in Georgia is all hell would be breaking loose. Also, just to

01:22:34.980 let you know, speaking of that Maricopa County thing, the state officials have apologized for

01:22:39.820 the issue in Arizona saying it will not affect anything. They say, they say all the votes will

01:22:44.500 be counted. Well, that could be true if they all cast provisional ballots. But what Carrie Lake and

01:22:49.920 others are saying, and Harmeet Dillon is saying is some were told you don't have to cast a provisional

01:22:54.920 ballot. You can just go to another polling station and cast an actual live ballot there.

01:22:59.600 And then they found out the hard way when they got to place number two. That wasn't true. We're

01:23:04.940 going to hear more about that. Here's a question for you from one of our YouTube watchers, Dennis.

01:23:09.160 If Georgia goes to a runoff, again, 2000, and nobody has over 50% right now, do you think that favors

01:23:16.640 Walker or Warnock? And I'll add this. Does it matter?

01:23:22.980 I don't make predictions, but if you're just asking favor, I think it would favor Walker.

01:23:30.760 I think that the people of Georgia would then be voting not so much for their senator, but for

01:23:40.880 very possibly, like last time, who will control the Senate. And then the Republicans have their

01:23:47.920 powerful arguments to be made, the ones that I have just made, if in fact they'll make them.

01:23:52.980 But literally only God knows. Look, I don't know what to tell you. I just came back from Europe

01:24:03.340 at a wonderful time. I look at these societies that are more and more controlled by strong state

01:24:12.900 governments. People love it. I received a free speech award at the Danish parliament. That's why I was

01:24:21.220 there. And as I said to them, let's be honest. The human species prefers to be taken care of

01:24:29.820 than to be free. Freedom is a value. Freedom is not an instinct. And that's what we're seeing in

01:24:40.440 America. The freest country in human history is abandoning freedom for the devil deal. 0.54

01:24:49.860 You give me your vote and I will give you goodies. You lose your freedom and I will give you even more

01:24:59.840 goodies. And it seems that half of America has bought that deal. And I, I'm sorry to, you know,

01:25:06.900 not be upbeat, but even if we win the thought that half of America, including many of its youth,

01:25:13.720 think that way, that freedom, like 45% of young Americans say they believe in free speech, but

01:25:21.980 not for hate speech, not understanding. That's the whole point of free speech, that it allows for

01:25:27.320 speech that you think is hate speech. We're, we're, we're in a crisis and we have to fight.

01:25:33.560 You're absolutely right. We've talked about that before. It's easier for some than it is for others.

01:25:40.400 But as you point out, as you have pointed out, you can help the fighters. If you're not, if you're not

01:25:45.220 a fighter, you can help the fighters. Uh, and some of these wars are really just objectively worth

01:25:50.000 fighting when no matter your political stripes, um, an update for you, uh, the Pennsylvania secretary

01:25:55.880 state pleading for patience during its multi day counting process, going back down South to Georgia,

01:26:03.040 uh, Herschel Walker now in the lead by about 16,000, but again, it is neck and neck and no one is over

01:26:10.020 40%. It's under 50%. Uh, the New York time report where times were putting the latest on the Ohio

01:26:15.600 Senate, JD Vance at 54%, Tim Ryan at 46% was 75% reporting. I mean, look, this is just my prediction,

01:26:23.620 but I think they'll call that soon. JD Vance has been ahead in the polls by a considerable amount

01:26:27.780 for a long time. Um, Dennis, I love hearing from you and tonight is no exception. Thank you for being

01:26:34.340 on with us. It's a joy to be with you and welcome home. Uh, I'm going to head on over back to Tom

01:26:41.100 Bevin of real clear politics. Who's taken a close look at the results coming in everywhere, including

01:26:45.860 from Arizona. All right, Tom, what are we seeing? What's our headline?

01:26:49.400 Um, so we finally have some numbers in Arizona, about 42% reporting. Um, and right now, uh, Mark

01:26:57.160 Kelly in the Senate race has a pretty sizable lead over Blake masters about 15, just under 15 points.

01:27:04.120 But again, that's, uh, that's not necessarily indicative of where that race is going to end

01:27:08.920 up. I think this one's obviously going to be very, very close. Um, in the governor's race,

01:27:13.900 you have, uh, Katie Hobbs leading, uh, Carrie Lake by, well, 10 points basically at this point,

01:27:21.140 again, 42% reporting there. And we also have, uh, look at Wisconsin, about 50% of the votes in,

01:27:28.300 in Wisconsin, you've got Tony Evers, the incumbent Democrat governor. There is up about, uh, six points

01:27:34.360 in that race right now. And on the Senate side, you've got Ron Johnson who is trailing Mandela Barnes by,

01:27:42.000 uh, about, uh, what is that? 1.4, I think. So again, a lot of votes still to come in and again,

01:27:50.200 probably, uh, vote from the more rural parts of the state, which would obviously favor the

01:27:54.820 Republicans in both of those races. Yeah. To come in. Can I ask you about, uh, Virginia? Because

01:27:59.740 we saw Abigail Spamburger, the Democrat, she's moderate. She held onto her seat. Um, then we saw

01:28:06.260 the Democrat in Virginia 10, hold on to their seat as well. The third Virginia race that we'd

01:28:11.940 been looking at, Jim Garrity had called this, uh, to our attention in his morning jolt yesterday or

01:28:17.240 the day before was Virginia too. And that was the one most gettable for the GOP. And it appears

01:28:23.540 they did get it. Uh, Republican state Senator Jen Kiggins, uh, projected to defeat the Democrat there, 1.00

01:28:29.820 Elaine Luria in Virginia's second congressional district. That's a significant win for the GOP.

01:28:35.080 Uh, the Democrat had just went down as part of the January 6th committee. And so on our subject,

01:28:40.160 you know, on our discussion of ripple, uh, like surfable wave tsunami, how does, uh, the GOP

01:28:49.660 taking over Virginia to change the calculation if at all? Well, I think it's, it's a, you know,

01:28:55.240 ripple was winning one of those three sort of wave ish was winning two of the three and tsunami

01:29:00.660 was winning all three. I mean, remember the Virginia 10 was a Biden plus 19 district. I mean,

01:29:06.880 so that the fact that that was even close shows that, you know, there was a strong Republican

01:29:11.560 candidate there and Republicans turned out Spanberger was sort of the, the middle ground.

01:29:16.200 That was a Biden plus seven district. And that's why Republicans thought they really had a good

01:29:20.480 chance, uh, to get that because we had seen in past, uh, elections in Virginia last year, we saw a

01:29:27.180 shift of 10 points or more in some of these, uh, some of these districts. So I think that was

01:29:32.220 disappointing for Republicans. They thought they were going to do, they thought they were going to

01:29:34.820 get two out of those three. Virginia 10 was sort of a, you know, what was it was a stretch and,

01:29:40.060 and the dream, but, um, obviously they didn't get, they didn't get that and they didn't get

01:29:44.660 Virginia seven. But, well, or did they stand by, uh, Chad program, my old, my old colleague at,

01:29:51.840 uh, Fox news who knows a lot and is solid reporter, um, reporting as follows from colleague,

01:29:57.460 Caroline McKee, GOP, Virginia house candidate, yes, Lee Vega suggests she has not lost to Democrat

01:30:04.260 Virginia representative Spanberger says there are quote, thousands of votes that are yet to be

01:30:10.520 counted. Now, having done this a lot, Carl Rove with many others, it is not unusual for a candidate

01:30:19.160 who is projected to lose when there's still outstanding raw vote to be tallied to say,

01:30:24.740 I haven't lost. You have to count all the votes, but the way the gurus do this behind the scenes

01:30:29.380 is they see where the outstanding vote is in terms of the counties and what the percentages of Dems and

01:30:35.980 Republicans in those counties. And they make their very well-educated guess on how it's likely to go

01:30:42.860 that there's, they're calculating. I imagine there's just not enough outstanding vote for this

01:30:47.480 Republican to overcome the lead that Spanberger has, but what do you make of that reporting by

01:30:53.080 Chad? Yeah. I mean, that's not terribly surprising, um, for the reasons that you mentioned, but I,

01:30:59.420 you know, we'll have to see what the final numbers are. It's probably prudent if it's,

01:31:03.520 if it's that close for her to say, listen, let's wait. You know, she's, there's no need necessarily

01:31:08.760 to run out and concede the race before all the votes are counted. If it's really, really close.

01:31:12.500 Um, and it is so, so that doesn't surprise me. Hmm. Okay. All right. Go, go gather some more

01:31:19.480 information and, uh, we'll come back to you and get the update. Tom Bevin, such a pleasure, uh,

01:31:24.600 here with me now, one of the most brilliant minds in all of Silicon Valley. David Sachs is a founding

01:31:29.220 member of PayPal. He's a venture capitalist who now runs craft ventures, and he may also be running

01:31:33.900 Twitter right now. He is also the cohost of the very popular tech podcast, all in with, with my

01:31:41.300 good pal, Jason, Jason, who I, David Sachs, I heard Jason say that he actually loves me. So all is

01:31:47.760 forgiven. No, that's good to hear. I'll, I'll pass that on, but I have to, I have to, thank you for

01:31:53.180 that introduction, but I have to disavow. I'm not, not running Twitter. I'm just doing what investors

01:31:57.700 do in Silicon Valley, which is trying to be helpful. The reports that somehow I'm one of the people in

01:32:02.900 charge there are definitely, uh, exaggerated. Okay. But Elon's your friend used to work together

01:32:07.700 and is it, so you're trying to help him steady the ship? I'm helping a friend exactly until he

01:32:12.580 puts in place his permanent team. Okay. What do you make of all the blowback he's getting for what

01:32:16.960 he's done so far? Well, it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, it's certainly overblown. It's exaggerated. He

01:32:23.540 hasn't even had a chance to look at the content moderation policies yet. He's just trying to get his

01:32:27.460 arms around the business. This is a company that's losing something like $4 million a day.

01:32:31.720 And so he's first is trying to right size the company, rationalize the cost structure,

01:32:36.560 uh, start generating some more revenue. And then he's said that he plans to look at, uh, content

01:32:42.560 moderation, uh, to basically create a, a council that's going to arbitrate these issues. And he

01:32:48.660 wants to restore free speech, but he needs a little bit of time to do that. He has not made those changes

01:32:53.140 yet. And yet we have this hysterical reaction on the part of, you know, the sort of this professional

01:32:59.940 elite who is very much on the side of censorship and they want to hoard their blue checks and they

01:33:05.840 don't want to see Elon sell them to, uh, you know, to increase revenue. So there is this, um,

01:33:12.420 you know, Elon's called it the sort of battle between peasants and Lords. You know, you've got

01:33:15.940 the average user on Twitter would like to be able to get a blue check and the Lords refuse to, um,

01:33:22.000 to sort of decentralize and democratize access. So that's, it's an interesting battle going on right

01:33:26.580 now. I don't know what you're referring to hysterical reaction. Do you mean something

01:33:30.400 like this from whoopie Goldberg watch? I I'm getting off. I'm getting off today because I just

01:33:38.680 feel like, you know, it's, it's so messy and I I'm tired of now having had certain kinds of attitudes

01:33:49.520 blocked and now they're back on. And I just, I'm going to get out. And if it settles down and I feel

01:33:56.120 more comfortable, maybe I'll come back. But as of tonight, I'm done with Twitter.

01:34:02.480 Am I seeing things or are you getting a little misty eyed there?

01:34:05.240 No, there's a lot of, there's a lot of drama going on. I mean, like I said, the content moderation

01:34:11.460 policies are the same. Elon hasn't changed them. So, um, now there was, uh, an op that on Elon's

01:34:17.980 very first day as CEO taking over the company, there was an operation by a message board called

01:34:24.620 4chan where they basically posted messages on this board to encourage users to go on Twitter

01:34:31.420 and, uh, and, and post racist messages. And they actually use bots to create a lot of, uh,

01:34:38.800 they created a bunch of bot accounts that posted these racist messages. This was detected very

01:34:43.020 quickly and taken down. But then what happened is these activist groups put out stories like,

01:34:47.620 well, you're, they're monitoring the fire hose of tweets. And they put out stories like racist

01:34:51.980 tweets have increased 500% on Twitter. And then they feed that to the press. And then the press

01:34:56.160 feeds it to celebrities like whoopie. And then they feed it to advertisers at, to create a boycott.

01:35:00.780 But the whole thing is a manufactured op. I mean, the policies have not changed. Um, the, the,

01:35:06.920 there are people who want to, uh, try and make trouble for the company. And so they essentially

01:35:13.140 create these stories, but, uh, just it, there hasn't been a change yet on speech.

01:35:17.460 If she is so offended by racist messages, she should cover her ears from the woman who sits 1.00

01:35:23.340 down the lane from her on the set, who just referred to white women prepared to vote Republican 0.99

01:35:28.620 as roaches. Um, so yeah, whoopies doesn't have to go far. If she was looking for reasons to be 0.99

01:35:33.680 offended, that one apparently didn't offend her ears. All right, let's talk elections. Uh, enough

01:35:38.380 about Twitter, even though I know you got all the answers. It's kind of exciting. Um, so far not

01:35:43.620 seeing tons of surprises coming in really. We're just kind of waiting. I will give you this update.

01:35:48.740 Um, yeah, okay. This is not surprising. Uh, NBC news is projecting that Democrat Josh Shapiro

01:35:55.120 has won the Pennsylvania governor's race. We knew that was going to happen. The Republican

01:35:59.260 candidate there had, could never get anything going, uh, that will likely help Fetterman.

01:36:03.780 That of course has already been baked into the cake and assessing how this race is likely to go. 0.60

01:36:07.500 And an update on the Pennsylvania Senate race again, via NBC Fetterman now at 50.8 as at 46.7,

01:36:16.560 but that's only 56% of the expected votes. So you can't, it's just kind of fun to see it. It means

01:36:22.760 nothing until we get much, much more of the vote in, uh, the bottom line is we don't know. And things

01:36:28.540 are happening there as kind of, they were expected to happen, but what's your overall take on where we

01:36:31.960 are tonight? Well, I think it's gonna be a good night for the Republicans. Um, you know, they're

01:36:36.580 expected to win the house. I think they're going to win the Senate too. I don't know how good a

01:36:40.200 night's going to be. I don't know how big a red wave it's going to be, but I think it's very early

01:36:43.480 to tell, but it does seem like the Republicans are going to do well. And I think the biggest reason

01:36:48.040 is just that the economy is not doing very well right now. Something like 75% of Americans already

01:36:54.340 believe we're in recession. 72% of Americans think that we're on the wrong track. I'm not sure who the

01:37:00.260 3% are who believe we're in recession, but on the right track, that seems kind of weird. But in any

01:37:04.480 event, you get the point that, you know, almost three quarters of the country thinks that we're

01:37:09.500 headed in the wrong direction and we're in a recession. So, and I think this is really a

01:37:13.360 direct result of, uh, Biden's economic policy that he put in place really from the beginning

01:37:18.320 of his presidency. You know, first he canceled our energy independence. Then he passed up

01:37:25.400 opportunities to essentially negotiate, use diplomacy to avoid the Ukraine war that created a supply

01:37:31.020 shock. So in other words, he, he reduced America's own sources of energy at the very same time

01:37:36.860 that we have this, you know, war in Ukraine that he really didn't do anything to prevent.

01:37:41.620 And then on top of that, he alienated the Saudis. So all of this started this, um, were greatly

01:37:47.060 contributed to this inflation problem we have, which has caused the feds to jack up interest rates so

01:37:52.000 fast that it's crashed the stock market, especially growth stocks. And it's, uh, increased, um,

01:37:58.020 interest rates. The, the, uh, mortgages are now over 7%. So the economy is in really big trouble.

01:38:04.120 And of course the, the, the Biden spending program has contributed a lot to this as well. I mean,

01:38:08.220 he started with that $1.9 trillion American rescue plan. This is the COVID relief bill that we didn't

01:38:14.220 really need. Larry Summers warned him to create inflation. They still went with it. Then there was

01:38:18.840 another 1.1 trillion for infrastructure and they wanted the 3.3, sorry, 3.5 trillion for, uh, build back

01:38:26.860 better. That got mercifully reduced to 750 billion, which they then renamed the inflation reduction

01:38:32.060 act, which was sort of ludicrous. Uh, but in any event, this, this wild spending by Biden has really

01:38:37.880 contributed to this inflation problem. The inflation has caused, uh, interest rates to, to spike up and

01:38:44.500 that has really put the economy, I think on the verge of, um, of really a very deep recession. And we can

01:38:51.640 very much feel it here in Silicon Valley. All the major tech companies are doing huge layoffs

01:38:55.880 right now and, um, or, or, or hiring freezes and a lot of companies are just starting to go out of

01:39:02.120 business. So I think, you know, the American people are starting to feel this, but I think it's going to

01:39:06.280 be a lot worse next year as well. I think this is really important because already you're starting

01:39:10.900 to hear, um, Democrats and their media allies say, well, the Republicans can't do anything. They can't do

01:39:16.740 anything about inflation. You know, they just complained about it. They're not actually not going to be able to

01:39:19.660 change it at all. Well, that doesn't erase the fact that the Democrats are the reason we got into this

01:39:25.680 pickle to begin with. Outlining the spending that they approved over threats from Republicans or

01:39:32.900 warnings, I should say from Republicans and others that it would cause runaway inflation, uh, was a,

01:39:38.880 was deeply problematic. And they got away with it saying, we're the ones who want to help you.

01:39:43.020 We want to help you with all this code relief that at that point, the people no longer needed.

01:39:46.940 And in helping us, they've wound up hurting a lot of people and the exit polls reflect the pain.

01:39:54.380 No, that's right. I mean, so the American rescue plan that was passed in Biden's first three months

01:39:58.820 in office was done on straight party line, uh, straight party lines. They then later in that

01:40:04.160 year, after inflation was already a problem, they did the infrastructure bill, which admittedly some

01:40:08.380 Republicans went along with, but Biden made the number twice as big as what the Republicans wanted.

01:40:12.660 And then you had this BBB plan, which was going to be another three and a half trillion. They then

01:40:17.540 reduced it to seven 50, uh, which was again done on straight party lines. So, and then Biden did this

01:40:23.220 trillion dollars of debt forgiveness for, for student loans. So there's been this massive amount of

01:40:28.100 spending that's come out of this white house. And then on top of it, you got to remember that

01:40:32.200 last summer, the administration had this party line that inflation was transitory. Remember that

01:40:37.880 starting in May last year. And the reason why that was so important is because Powell

01:40:42.200 was up for renomination and there was a five month period between May and November where, uh,

01:40:50.000 where Powell really should have been raising interest rates and stopping the quantitative easing,

01:40:54.720 but he didn't. And I think a big part of the reason why is he got roped into this party

01:40:59.140 line. The story that the administration was telling that inflation was transitory. So in other words,

01:41:05.220 in order for him to successfully be reconfirmed, he had to get along with what the administration

01:41:09.780 was saying. So the administration affected fed policy in a major way last year. And, uh, and the

01:41:16.420 result of all of this is we have this, you know, the worst inflation we've had in 40 years that's

01:41:21.460 caused interest rates to now have, have gone up a lot. And that I think is really hurting the economy.

01:41:27.960 I want to give you an update on some of the numbers now update on Ohio Senate per NBC, JD Vance,

01:41:33.660 53.8% Tim Ryan, 46.1, 82% of the vote in. So we're getting closer. Um, also still looking down

01:41:41.520 in Georgia update on the governor's race there, which should be Brian Kemp's pretty easily based

01:41:47.060 on what we saw going in. He's at 54.0 Stacey Abrams at 45.3 again, 82% of the expected vote in there. 0.84

01:41:55.520 I mean, right now those races look like they're going to wind up pretty much as we, as we thought 0.92

01:42:00.920 they'd be. Um, but let me ask you this up to speaking of Ohio and JD Vance's race, according

01:42:07.320 to the exit poll CNN reporting, almost 75% of Ohio voters said inflation has caused their families

01:42:13.400 severe or moderate hardship that mirrors the numbers we saw nationally. I mean, that's how do

01:42:19.380 you get past that in a state like Ohio? This is not a rich state. It's not San Francisco. It's not

01:42:25.540 California with a bunch of rich people running in tech. It's not New York with a bunch of rich

01:42:29.600 people running wall street. Ohio is people who work with their hands, you know, and, and

01:42:34.420 75% saying inflation caused their family severe or moderate hardship. I just feel like with

01:42:39.760 those numbers, how does JD Vance not win? Right? No, you're right. I mean, the, the number

01:42:45.160 one most salient issue with the electorate is inflation and the economy. I think something

01:42:50.160 like 51% say it's the number one issue that they care about. And the problem is that workers'

01:42:55.360 wages have not kept up with inflation. So their buying power in real terms has diminished.

01:42:59.920 And the only time the administration ever really has acknowledged this is when they

01:43:03.980 farcically renamed the build back better act, the inflation reduction act. Well, if it was so good

01:43:09.580 at reducing inflation, why don't you run on it? Why don't you talk about your legislative

01:43:13.580 accomplishments? You'll notice that the administration Biden has not been talking at all

01:43:18.460 about any of the bills that he passed that we're talking about the American rescue plan, the

01:43:22.900 infrastructure, the inflation reduction act. He's not running on these things. Instead, he's running on

01:43:27.960 this message that if you don't support the Democrats in power in perpetuity, that somehow

01:43:33.820 that's a threat to democracy. In other words, democracy requires the perpetuation of one party

01:43:38.860 rule forever. This is his campaign pitch. This is his sales pitch. So I don't think voters are buying

01:43:44.960 it. I think there's a small sort of cohort of voters who, you know, actively watch MSNBC who buy

01:43:50.480 that story. But I do not think that the working class voters of Ohio are buying that story.

01:43:56.640 This is back to John Ralston, the reporter in Nevada who's broken a lot of news. I just

01:44:02.260 confirmed that whatever mail has been dropped off today will not be tabulated tonight in Clark County.

01:44:06.840 May actually take until Thursday. Again, this is back to Nevada. What will be tallied tonight? Our

01:44:11.680 election day in person and all the early mail votes already in the system save provisional ballots.

01:44:16.240 We are now incapable of getting an election day election result. It's absurd in Florida.

01:44:24.000 Yes. Right. Because of the hanging chads thing that happened 20 plus years ago. Right. Like they

01:44:27.820 learned their lesson. I don't know. And this this happens there. At the same time, we've got the

01:44:32.520 situation in Maricopa, Arizona that we're just going to have to try. They're sorry. Well, OK, you're sorry,

01:44:38.980 but your boss is Carrie Lake's opponent. You know, she's in the race. So naturally, 0.99

01:44:44.680 people are going to be a little suspicious if that race comes down to a tight vote. You know,

01:44:49.400 they're saying nobody was denied their vote. The other side is saying something very

01:44:53.080 different than that. But I really think this is a wake up call. The Democrats are so worried about

01:44:58.300 like, oh, the election integrity. It's like, why don't we focus on this? It's actually not that hard

01:45:02.960 to run a clean and fair election. It makes no sense that some states are able to give us

01:45:08.660 a verdict on election night and others require to the next day or many days. It seems like this is

01:45:15.040 something that we should try to fix across the country is be able to find out who won at least

01:45:20.840 the same night of an election. Unless there's something extraordinary happening, like some sort

01:45:24.700 of extremely close runoff where you need to a recount. But just for in the ordinary course of

01:45:29.320 things to have elections that drag on for days, it doesn't inspire confidence in the system.

01:45:34.020 So what extent do you think the the media has had and what we're seeing so far tonight? Because

01:45:39.860 when I see abortion so high up in the list, I think of conversation I had with some pals on the

01:45:44.740 show right after Dobbs broke and and they were suggesting this wasn't going to be a real issue to

01:45:50.340 me. And I said, well, don't discount the media running story after story after story, trying to

01:45:56.020 tug at the heartstrings of people about, you know, this person who wanted an abortion and couldn't get

01:45:59.680 it. And sure enough, we did see some of that. I do wonder to what extent the Republicans, as always,

01:46:06.740 are coming from behind because they've got not just their opponents, but the media as well against

01:46:10.880 them. Yeah, well, I mean, there's no question that the media has a huge impact. I mean, imagine if the

01:46:16.520 media if we had just a completely neutral media, I think that all these close that would be probably a

01:46:22.980 several point swing, you know, that would that would make a big difference. I think on the issue of

01:46:27.700 abortion, it is a salient issue for a pretty large number of voters, but the number is something

01:46:33.340 like 15% to 20% of voters say it's, you know, one of their top issues as compared to say 51% for the

01:46:40.660 economy. So it is meaningful, but it's not as meaningful as the economy or inflation. And I

01:46:46.540 think one of the things that's happened since you got that, since you got that failed ballot

01:46:51.480 initiative in Kansas, remember, that the pro-life side tried to amend the Constitution in order to

01:46:58.600 make a change that would then allow for further restrictions on abortion that actually failed.

01:47:04.180 And since then, I think you've seen Republicans start to moderate their message on that issue.

01:47:09.440 They've learned how to talk about it, I think, in a way that is less alienating to the, I'd say,

01:47:15.500 majority of Americans who favor some sort of messy compromise in the middle. But the Democrats have

01:47:21.500 not actually, the Democrats, their position on this issue is to permit abortion into the nine month

01:47:26.580 for any reason. It's actually a position that it's more radical than even what was in Roe. You know,

01:47:32.820 Roe basically said that states can restrict abortion after viability. This is after 23 weeks. So

01:47:38.220 the Democrats actually have taken a more extreme position on abortion than I think a lot of

01:47:44.640 Republicans who've learned to talk about the issue. So I'm skeptical that this is going to be a silver

01:47:49.380 bullet for the Democrats. We'll see. Continuing to watch the latest numbers come in, New York,

01:47:56.540 Georgia, sorry, not New York, New York Times. Georgia Senate raised Walker 49.4, Warnock 48.6 with 77%

01:48:06.500 reporting. Pennsylvania, Fetterman 50. Oz 47% with 62% reporting. There's more and more tweeting from

01:48:17.460 GOP pundits suggesting Oz is likely to lose based on what's left to count, but we don't know that.

01:48:23.240 We'll continue to watch it. David Sachs, always a pleasure speaking with you, sir. Thank you. Come

01:48:27.520 back. Good luck with the Twitter situation. Happy to talk anytime. Thanks, Megan.

01:48:31.560 All right. Back with me now for closing thoughts on what to expect the rest of the night. Tom Bevan

01:48:36.020 and Jim Garrity together, the dream team together. So what do you got, Tom? Let me ask you about that

01:48:42.120 suggestion that given the outstanding vote left to count in Pennsylvania, some are getting more and

01:48:50.140 more bearish on Oz's chances. Well, look, that race was always going to be very, very close. I mean,

01:48:58.640 we had Oz leading, I think he was ahead in the final through a few polls in that race. And,

01:49:04.060 you know, but he was leading by only, I think, three tenths of 1% in our average. So clearly,

01:49:09.420 it was going to be, you know, a coin flip race. So we'll have to wait and see what happens. It looks

01:49:15.420 like Fetterman's running strong, though, in the areas where Biden won in 2020, even running ahead of

01:49:21.240 Biden in some of those places. So I think Democrats think they have a pretty good shot at taking that

01:49:26.740 seat. And that's obviously, that would be a flip. I can't help but think, Jim Garrity, of Chuck Schumer

01:49:34.160 and what he was heard saying to Joe Biden in the tarmac that day saying, we're good in Pennsylvania.

01:49:39.600 That debate did not hurt us too badly. He was more worried about Georgia. And indeed,

01:49:44.080 it does look like Walker's doing pretty well in Georgia and Fetterman is doing pretty well in

01:49:48.800 Pennsylvania. Chuck Schumer obviously has a very good reason to pay very close attention to all of this.

01:49:53.240 He wants to remain, um, the majority leader and not become the minority leader and watch Mitch

01:49:57.980 McConnell run the Senate. Um, I guess I personally would not be surprised if this is how it goes,

01:50:03.720 because I just, I said before, it seems like what January 6th is to the Republicans,

01:50:10.960 Fetterman's disability issues are to the Democrats. They really just don't care.

01:50:17.020 Hmm. Yeah. I was going to say, since we last talked, uh, I've spoke,

01:50:20.620 I've heard from several Pennsylvania Republicans watching this race closely,

01:50:24.600 looking at the numbers coming in from the suburban districts outside Pennsylvania,

01:50:28.260 Bucks County, places like that. And just kind of looking, uh, not what we wanted to see.

01:50:32.860 They're not saying he's doomed yet, but basically they had targets of how many votes they wanted

01:50:37.180 in those districts and they just aren't seeing them. Um, so that, you know, I think right around now,

01:50:43.900 we are approaching 11 o'clock Eastern time, you can see a narrative taking place, right?

01:50:50.040 Fetterman is looking like he's going to pull it out in Pennsylvania. Oz is down by like four

01:50:54.280 percentage points. Still a lot of votes out there, but like I said, Republicans don't like

01:50:58.200 the margins they're seeing. Um, Georgia, I mean, look, maybe Walker, he's, he's not too far below

01:51:04.160 that 50%, but this is probably going to a runoff. I still like his odds in a runoff, but it still is,

01:51:10.500 you know, another month of campaigning, you know, you know, we saw what happened in the runoffs last

01:51:14.380 time. So we know we can't really count everything there, but let's, let's say Trump doesn't

01:51:18.120 interfere this time, right? Trump interfered the last time. I'm building up to this, this crescendo,

01:51:22.800 you could say, uh, Maggie Hassan, who looked vulnerable at the beginning of this as look

01:51:27.240 like she's going to cruise to reelection. It's a couple of just folks have already called this 0.98

01:51:30.800 race early. ABC just called a lot of the votes out. I'm kind of surprised how early we're seeing a

01:51:35.400 call there, but apparently Don Bolduc has just, you know, flopped despite some folks saying he was

01:51:39.980 really closing in the final days. We'll see how things go in Arizona. We'll see how things go in

01:51:44.480 Nevada, but I think you add it up. It's a very disappointing night for, uh, for a lot of

01:51:48.680 Republicans. Maybe they can still win the Senate, but it kind of depends on what still has to be

01:51:52.880 resolved. Well, I don't know why you say it's a very disappointing night. You know, uh, Ron DeSantis

01:51:57.800 is basically walking around like Conan the Barbarian and leaving a trail of, of, you know, Charlie

01:52:03.360 crisp entrails behind him and just demolished. Florida has become so red and Oh, Oh, who endorsed

01:52:09.740 Oz out in Pennsylvania? Who was the one who put Herschel Walker? Okay. Herschel Walker was a football

01:52:14.840 star. He was going to win that primary no matter what. Um, you know, generic Republican, Tim

01:52:22.000 Pawlenty, who is the most generic Republican I can think of. You know, if, if you just had a normal

01:52:26.500 Republican out there, there's an excellent chance they perform, we performing better than these

01:52:30.580 candidates. If Republicans will go through this cycle and they're like, you know what?

01:52:34.220 This did not turn out the way we hoped. Maybe that narrative we heard early on of Trumpy,

01:52:39.520 you know, unusual, inexperienced candidates. Maybe that's what they're going to be pointing

01:52:44.220 to. I mean, they're going to say, wait a minute, you know what? The economy is terrible.

01:52:47.860 You got Carrie Lake. People are PO'd about inflation. We had the best possible environment we could

01:52:52.840 possibly hope for. And it gets a phenomenally unpopular president and we can't beat John Fetterman

01:52:58.480 in Pennsylvania. Really? That's what Republicans are at this point. So approaching 11. Things look

01:53:06.900 pretty grim. Jim, Jim, hold on. We'll get time to weigh in because I don't know that I think it's

01:53:11.900 too early to say this is looking like a big disappointment for the Republicans. I think

01:53:15.440 we can safely say no tsunami, but if the Republicans, they could, they could very well still win control

01:53:20.860 of the Senate. And it looks like they will win control of the house. And that's a huge W for them,

01:53:25.420 Tom. I don't, how do you see it? Yeah. Well, I look, given the expectations

01:53:30.420 that Republicans had coming into this night, I think it is going to, we'll see where the final

01:53:35.060 numbers end up. But I think there were a lot of Republicans who thought that they were on the

01:53:38.800 verge of, of a tsunami of like a knockout blow. And that is certainly not going to happen. Now,

01:53:44.640 listen, I, first of all, Jim, I don't know about that. I mean, you got JD Vance, he's cruising in

01:53:48.600 Ohio. You've got Ted Budd. Those are both Trump endorsed candidates. I don't think Trump endorsed

01:53:52.420 Don Bolduc. We'll see what happens with Blake Masters and Adam Laxall. I mean, if Republicans

01:53:57.300 win those two races in the West and Herschel Walker manages to avoid a runoff in Georgia,

01:54:04.060 suddenly, you know, Republicans win the Senate with a plus two seats. So we'll see what happens. I mean,

01:54:10.320 I think this night is, is not over for Republicans, but it's certainly, there were some disappointments

01:54:16.920 in the house. And, and, you know, if, if Oz goes down in Pennsylvania and Don Bolduc certainly been

01:54:22.740 a disappointment in the Senate races, but again, I'm, you know, Republicans plus two in the Senate

01:54:28.500 is, is not a bad scenario for them. And if they win 15 to 20 house seats, that's not a, that's not a,

01:54:36.000 you know, terrible night for them, but it will be, I think, disappointing for folks who there were a lot

01:54:40.160 of Republicans out there who were hoping for a lot more. They want a tsunami. Just an update on

01:54:44.320 Wisconsin, uh, New York times reporting Ron Johnson, Republican has 55 0.1% Mandela Barnes, 49.9%,

01:54:54.080 only 58% reporting. That's a race in which, uh, Barnes's stance on crime has been front and center.

01:55:02.320 Uh, I just, I, I will be shocked if Barnes manages to pull that one out. And in the state of Wisconsin,

01:55:09.800 I just like, I get given his record on crime and no bail and defund the police in this environment,

01:55:16.840 Jim. I mean, maybe I'm wrong. Uh, but that one's, that one's, I feel like going to go red. And then,

01:55:22.120 yeah, like you said, a couple of people, including the ABC is projecting Maggie Hassan as the winner

01:55:28.000 in New Hampshire. So if New Hampshire goes blue, um, I mean, stays blue. And, um, if Pennsylvania,

01:55:36.020 uh, goes blue, right, that would be a, a Dem pickup, um, and the Republicans win Georgia,

01:55:45.160 that would be a GOP pickup. They need still to win one more. The GOP still needs to,

01:55:52.020 they'll need to pick up one more in order to gain control to get 51. And so what in my scenario would

01:55:57.120 it be? It could be, could be Nevada, could be Arizona. Is there anything else I'm not thinking

01:56:02.660 of that's still out there as a possible GOP pickup? Not really. And I think Nevada is the

01:56:07.840 safer bet of the two. Um, Laxalt's been a very strong candidate, had a small, but consistent lead

01:56:13.980 in the polling. But I just feel like this has turned into the kind of night where if you're

01:56:17.080 Republicans, you can't count on anything that didn't look safe. They're not getting the breaks.

01:56:22.320 They're not getting the late surges, the ones, the kind of outcomes you'd like to see. Uh, and we

01:56:29.020 just don't have a lot of results out there in Arizona. Um, maybe Carrie Lake can kind of, you 1.00

01:56:34.180 know, no pun intended, Carrie Blake Masters over at the top on that. Um, these West coast,

01:56:39.340 West coast States, we're just going to have to wait longer to, to get some more results in here. But

01:56:42.780 I just feel like, you know, in a lot of these States, it's been a case of where Republicans went in

01:56:46.780 with high hopes, really feeling good. And again, issue environment about as good as they possibly could ask for.

01:56:52.320 And they have fallen short. And I think against some very flawed candidates like John Fetterman

01:56:56.560 and Maggie Hassett, I guess that's the other thing that's kind of nagging at me. It's, it's not just,

01:56:59.800 you know, who you're losing. It's not just that you're losing. It's who you're losing to

01:57:03.640 in the kind of environment that really you should have the wind at your back.

01:57:07.560 Hmm. Um, want to tell you this, NBC news now projecting JD Vance as the winner in Ohio,

01:57:14.220 uh, 53.8% at this point, again, not a big surprise, but he did struggle and they did

01:57:20.540 criticize him for candidate quality. Um, he went very Trumpy and sort of election denial-y,

01:57:26.520 um, but then sort of try to moderate that when he got the nomination. And, you know, I, I,

01:57:32.900 she's got a ton of support. It's Ohio. Trump carried the state. He's doing better in these

01:57:37.280 counties from what I read than even Trump did. So I think that's probably a comfortable call.

01:57:43.680 So that's an important one, Tom, because the GOP needed to protect, if it's not going to win these

01:57:47.740 other States, it needs to protect what it has. Right. So it protects Ohio. And now all eyes are

01:57:52.920 on Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Georgia. Yeah. And, you know, I've been tracking the vote

01:57:59.000 as it's coming in and comparing it to where the polls were and where our averages were. And,

01:58:02.880 you know, we had JD Vance in our real clear politics average leading that race by eight

01:58:06.880 points. That's about what he's coming in at, what he's going to win it by. Uh, Ted Budd was up 6.2

01:58:12.200 in our average. He's last I checked, he was at about four. He might end up about five. Rubio was

01:58:18.140 plus 8.8 and he obviously doubled that. So way outperformed his polls. And in New Hampshire,

01:58:23.560 we had Maggie Hassan leading by 1.4%. And she's obviously going to way outperform that. So, 0.97

01:58:28.820 um, you know, had the Georgia race, Herschel Walker was, uh, up 1.4 and the average of polls.

01:58:35.460 And, you know, for a while there, he was at 1.4, 1.1. I mean, I think it's going to be,

01:58:40.660 you know, right around that area. We had, um, you know, Adam Laxalt's up, uh, 3.4 in the,

01:58:47.340 in the poll average. We'll see where that comes in. Blake masters was up three tenths of a percent

01:58:52.080 and Oz was up four tenths of a percent. So it looks like Oz is going to fall short and we'll

01:58:56.100 see what happens with Blake masters, but the polls, you know, Ron Johnson was up 3.6. We'll see where

01:59:01.120 he ends up, but you know, for barring a couple of States, uh, you know, the, the people who are

01:59:06.220 heading the polls one, um, and a couple of them actually outperformed, but, but a lot of them

01:59:10.640 came in right on the number. All right. Before I left you go, I'll let you go. Cause we're up

01:59:14.280 against it. Uh, do you still both predict the GOP who takes the house tonight and by about 20?

01:59:21.000 Yeah, that's about where I put it at this point. Yeah, I agree.

01:59:24.260 Okay. And are you still predicting GOP takes the Senate by like one quickly?

01:59:31.980 Yeah. You know, Laxalt don't make me look stupid. 0.99

01:59:35.680 I think it's going to be one, maybe two. 0.99

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The Megyn Kelly Show - November 09, 2022

Red Wave？ Megyn Kelly's Election Night Special, with Larry Elder, Bari Weiss, David Sacks, Dennis Prager, and More ｜ Ep. 430

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