The Megyn Kelly Show - Redditor Helps Solve Brown U. Shooting Case, Tapper's Trump Health Sham, and Leftist Bullying, with Buck Sexton and Payton McNabb ｜ Ep. 1217

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00:00:25.960 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:40.000 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:43.220 It's finally over. The man accused of killing two and wounding nine in a heinous shooting at Brown University this past Saturday

00:00:51.020 was found dead by authorities Thursday night from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound.

00:00:57.020 Law enforcement tracked him down to a storage facility in Salem, New Hampshire.

00:01:01.500 And now we know he is also the suspect in Monday evening's murder of a renowned MIT professor of nuclear science and engineering.

00:01:10.020 So I guess we weren't actually safe when the mayor of Providence, Rhode Island, said,

00:01:17.660 I know we're safe because there's been no additional shooting since Saturday morning.

00:01:22.000 Actually, the MIT professor was not safe.

00:01:25.580 No one was safe until that guy put a bullet in his own brain.

00:01:29.100 Here's what we know about the shooter.

00:01:31.020 His name is Claudio Neves Valentine.

00:01:33.940 Valente, I should say.

00:01:35.500 Valente.

00:01:35.860 And he's a 48-year-old Portuguese national.

00:01:39.440 So, I mean, who predicted he was going to be from Portugal?

00:01:42.740 What?

00:01:43.560 Who entered the country on a student visa in 2000.

00:01:47.140 He started at Brown University's physics PhD program in the fall of that year, 2000,

00:01:52.060 but took a leave of absence after the spring of 2001 semester and formally withdrew from the university in 2003.

00:01:59.000 So what was he doing here?

00:02:00.840 Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem gave some color on X last night.

00:02:04.120 Quote, Claudio Manuel Neves Valente entered the United States through the Diversity Lottery Immigrant Visa Program, DV-1, in 2017 and was granted a green card.

00:02:18.140 This heinous individual should never have been allowed in our country.

00:02:21.840 In 2017, President Trump fought to end this program following the devastating New York City truck ramming by an ISIS terrorist who entered under the DV-1 program and murdered eight people.

00:02:32.960 At President Trump's direction, I am immediately directing USCIS to pause the DV-1 program to ensure no more Americans are harmed by this disastrous program.

00:02:42.740 The AP reporting it was not immediately clear where he was between taking a leave of absence from Brown University in 2001 and getting the visa in 2017.

00:02:56.040 As far as the shooter's connection to the slain MIT professor, the FBI believes that they attended the same university in Portugal, where the professor is also from, the shooter's 48, the dead professor, 47.

00:03:11.980 No other information about motive is yet available.

00:03:14.400 We have no idea.

00:03:15.980 I mean, no idea.

00:03:17.640 By the way, there was a report, you know, he'd been yelling something.

00:03:21.020 What was it?

00:03:22.260 They came out last night.

00:03:23.400 Like, nobody knows.

00:03:25.480 Somebody said he might have been, like, growling.

00:03:28.400 Nobody knows.

00:03:29.540 We don't know why he did what he did.

00:03:31.860 As we've been reporting, the Providence police and mayor mostly looked feckless and incompetent throughout this investigation.

00:03:37.820 And it now appears that they had no major leads until Wednesday.

00:03:42.080 We'll have more on that in a bit.

00:03:44.020 But that did.

00:03:44.820 And like I said, a man died.

00:03:47.320 A man died, I'm not blaming the Brown and the Providence officials for this murder of the MIT professor.

00:03:55.240 But I would think when you're like, yeah, you don't need to shelter in place.

00:04:00.580 No one else has died.

00:04:01.780 And then a man dies and then you find out it's the same shooter.

00:04:05.320 It might tamp down your self-congratulatory tone when you come out to say he's finally been caught.

00:04:13.800 Watch this.

00:04:14.660 Tonight, our Providence neighbors can finally breathe a little easier.

00:04:20.480 We all worked well together to be able to identify this suspect.

00:04:24.140 I'm extremely proud of this department and actually the officers, the detectives.

00:04:28.860 It was all about groundwork, public assistance, interviews of individuals, and good old-fashioned policing.

00:04:36.660 And I will say that everybody brought a certain expertise to the table.

00:04:42.580 We can feel like you're chasing leads and they don't work out.

00:04:45.700 But the team keeps going.

00:04:47.220 But when you do crack it, you crack it.

00:04:50.620 Okay.

00:04:51.280 Joining me now to react to this and so much more is Buck Sexton, co-host of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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00:05:56.820 Buck, welcome back.

00:05:58.220 What do you make of the apprehension of the suspect who was dead, but they did find him?

00:06:04.600 We don't know when he killed himself.

00:06:05.980 Could have been as they closed in.

00:06:07.080 Could have been earlier.

00:06:08.160 Point is, he's dead and he's not going to hurt any other people.

00:06:10.580 But the back padding by the Keystone cop crew was a bit much.

00:06:16.440 Yeah, I'll be honest with you, Megan.

00:06:17.520 I think that this has become a little bit of a trend and it needs to stop.

00:06:23.840 And I speak with some background in this because I was at the NYPD Intelligence Division doing high profile counterterrorism investigations, including the Times Square bombing of that Faisal Shahzad carried out.

00:06:38.700 And so, I remember getting called in on the weekend because the bombing happened and we had a task force, FBI, all these other agencies.

00:06:45.160 And we had to find this guy.

00:06:47.000 We got him.

00:06:47.600 We got him at the airport, actually on a plane, on his way to Pakistan.

00:06:51.920 So, that was a near miss.

00:06:54.420 And I think everybody took a moment to say, oh, wow, we got to move a little faster next time to get an individual.

00:07:00.900 There wasn't a press conference called for everybody to high five each other in law enforcement.

00:07:05.760 And I think that this is something that everyone who's observing these press conferences now, because they are major news events.

00:07:14.380 They shouldn't be used as PR campaigns for a department, for a mayor, for a governor, for any of the above.

00:07:21.420 They didn't do great.

00:07:22.480 For the FBI.

00:07:23.160 Yeah, or the FBI.

00:07:23.880 Yeah, the FBI did this, too, recently.

00:07:26.800 And I called it out on my radio show, Megan.

00:07:28.660 It was like, we're so great.

00:07:30.480 We're doing amazing work.

00:07:31.500 You don't need to tell us.

00:07:32.280 It was a little uncomfortable.

00:07:33.160 It was weird.

00:07:33.880 It was weird.

00:07:34.460 It needs to stop.

00:07:35.900 And I think that this, unfortunately, maybe is a byproduct also of the social media era, where people want to be able to take a bow publicly.

00:07:46.760 But there's no need for what we saw in Providence, Rhode Island here.

00:07:50.600 I mean, this was way too congratulatory.

00:07:53.860 I mean, people were shot.

00:07:54.820 People were killed.

00:07:55.940 And they didn't get this guy, really.

00:07:58.060 I mean, he killed himself.

00:07:59.400 So they need to slow their roll a little bit and focus on good police work next time.

00:08:03.880 And also, don't tell us to avoid misinformation online.

00:08:07.000 That has a very Orwellian tone to it.

00:08:10.800 Like, you've got to be careful about all the misinformation.

00:08:12.800 No, we don't.

00:08:13.400 Go find the shooter.

00:08:14.080 No, we were getting lectured to, even last night, Christina Paxson, who is the president of Brown University, was out there sending an email to people being like, you know, it was just very unfortunate, the misinformation that went around about, you know, potential people involved in this, looking at their social media.

00:08:34.620 And it was like she was kind of over the top in her chastising.

00:08:38.740 It was like, you know what?

00:08:40.160 You know what actually solved the case?

00:08:41.940 Social media solved the case.

00:08:43.340 Some guy who saw the suspect was posting what he saw to Reddit and, like, in great detail.

00:08:50.020 And the Redditors encouraged him to go to the police, which he then did.

00:08:54.220 And this guy proved to be, it looks like, we believe, the critical force that led to this guy's identification and not arrest, but murder.

00:09:03.160 I mean, suicide.

00:09:03.960 From what I understand, Megan, and there's still details coming in, but it seems that this guy who committed this mass murder and suicide took some security steps as well to make this more difficult.

00:09:15.720 And I think that with law enforcement, they have some incredible tools, again, tools that I actually used in a prior life myself.

00:09:24.640 Things like people will say, well, why can't they just ping his cell phone?

00:09:28.740 Well, they can, but this guy apparently didn't take his cell phone with him for the shootings.

00:09:33.320 You know, why can't they?

00:09:35.120 Or had, or they're saying he may have had foreign SIM cards.

00:09:38.000 Yeah, or he changed out his SIM card.

00:09:39.800 But, I mean, he didn't bring, like, his, this is who I am, this is my name, cell phone with me.

00:09:44.200 Even if you ping phones, you're pinging in an area.

00:09:47.720 So there could, I mean, a place like Brown University, there's going to be, I don't know, a couple thousand people that are probably pinging off that tower.

00:09:54.440 So it can whittle things down, but it doesn't mean that you have the so-called smoking gun right away.

00:10:00.700 This guy took some steps.

00:10:03.120 I mean, it seems like this is some kind of personal grudge slash psychosis, but, you know, we'll find out more.

00:10:10.720 Clearly the, I think it's more than a coincidence that he studied with this guy at a Portuguese university.

00:10:14.980 I don't think that's a leap.

00:10:16.120 So he knew, he knew that guy.

00:10:18.100 But I think that law enforcement here got caught flat footed because the initial things that they go to in this situation, they, right away, they go to the surveillance footage, right away, they go to cell phones.

00:10:29.000 If somebody is good enough at covering their tracks on those fronts, then it's old fashioned police work and Reddit might move a lot faster on that than some of these cops can.

00:10:40.420 That's just the truth.

00:10:42.580 Yeah, here's, here's what we know.

00:10:45.120 And just a word of caution to the audience.

00:10:47.600 It's not totally clear how it all went down.

00:10:50.780 Not surprisingly, given the law enforcement we're dealing with, but we're, we're gleaning the following.

00:10:56.340 This actually does come from the supporting arrest affidavit, uh, that there was a tip received on Tuesday, December 16th.

00:11:02.740 Does not give a date for when the Reddit post was put up on Reddit, but, um, three days after the deadly shooting at Brown, officers received an anonymous tip that stuck out from a flood of information.

00:11:13.780 It directed the authorities to a post on Reddit quote, I'm being dead serious.

00:11:19.080 Yes, the police need to look into a gray Nissan with Florida plates, possibly a rental.

00:11:23.820 That was the car he was driving.

00:11:25.820 It was parked in front of the little shack behind the Rhode Island Historical Society on the Cook side street.

00:11:32.520 So Cook street side.

00:11:33.820 I know because he used his key fob to open the car, approached it, and then something prompted him to back away.

00:11:40.540 When he backed away, he relocked the car.

00:11:42.600 I found that odd.

00:11:44.300 So when he circled the block, I approached the car.

00:11:48.500 And that is when I saw the Florida plates.

00:11:50.920 He was parked in the section between the gate of the, uh, Rhode Island Historical Society and the corner of Cook and George street.

00:11:59.040 Now, based on that post, the police say they expanded their video search, you know, looking at people's cameras to the Rhode Island Historical Society area.

00:12:08.380 Investigators located a gray slash blue Nissan sedan.

00:12:11.420 Police then released still images of the then unknown person, later identified as John, who interacted with the suspect approximately, uh, at approximately 2.16 p.m. on December 13th.

00:12:24.560 Uh, and then here's another one.

00:12:25.900 Wednesday, December 17th.

00:12:27.600 The Reddit poster approached the cops on the street near Brown.

00:12:32.280 Uh, and by the way, it looks like they did not go find John after he posted that tip.

00:12:37.040 Like, I'm not sure what they did, to be honest with you, after they saw that Reddit tip.

00:12:41.200 They're kind of suggesting that they took it seriously.

00:12:43.520 Okay.

00:12:44.240 Then they say a day after the Reddit post was made, the writer approached law enforcement officials and told them about his encounter with a suspicious man in Brown University's, uh, Barris and Holly building.

00:12:54.200 The tipster, whom the police referred to only as John, said he had encountered the suspect inside a bathroom on the ground floor of the building between 1.45 p.m. and 2 p.m., around two hours before the first shots were reported.

00:13:06.440 John said the suspect's clothing was inappropriate for the weather and they had made eye contact.

00:13:10.340 John told the police he followed the man after he left the building to a Nissan vehicle with a Florida plate.

00:13:15.480 But instead of entering the vehicle, the suspect started walking around the block with John behind him.

00:13:19.740 So this sounds like the same person.

00:13:21.380 John said it was like a game of cat and mouse.

00:13:23.660 At one point, the two men spoke.

00:13:25.000 According to the affidavit, John asked the suspect, your car's back there.

00:13:28.700 Why are you circling the block?

00:13:30.560 To which the suspect responded, why are you harassing me?

00:13:33.200 John went his own way soon after that.

00:13:35.160 When the police showed John images of the suspect's car from safety cameras, he said that might be it.

00:13:40.600 And here's the last one, Buck.

00:13:42.280 Per the affidavit, Monday, sorry, morning of Wednesday, December 17th, a separate university employee, a Brown University faculty member,

00:13:50.760 had also described a suspicious vehicle in the same neighborhood, a gray sedan with Florida plates on Thursday, December 11th at 9.15 a.m.

00:13:56.820 It did not take long for investigators to find that the car was from an Alamo rental location in downtown Boston.

00:14:03.340 And from the rental agreement, they got a name, Claudio Manuel Neves Valente.

00:14:09.220 So that's how they caught him.

00:14:11.240 There were things happening on the Boston end, too, around the MIT professor.

00:14:15.520 But it was this Reddit guy.

00:14:17.900 It seems like it was this Reddit, this guy who posted on Reddit named John, who Jesse Waters had a guest last night,

00:14:23.100 it was reporting they believe is a former Brown student who is now homeless, unconfirmed.

00:14:29.240 But that was reported both online and on Fox last night.

00:14:33.060 Well, yeah, there's crowdsourcing has been around for a while, and I think it's getting more and more sophisticated

00:14:38.280 because keep in mind the tools that are available to the general public now when you start adding in AI.

00:14:44.000 I use AI now, just as a side note, all the time, and I'm amazed at what it can do.

00:14:49.800 I was putting together a gun.

00:14:51.140 Which one do you use?

00:14:51.940 Oh, I use Grok exclusively.

00:14:54.960 Oh, yeah.

00:14:55.400 I'm a Gormagan.

00:14:56.460 I'm a Grok guy.

00:14:58.160 So, yeah, I'm an investor in Grok.

00:15:00.320 I love Grok.

00:15:00.980 So anyway, I actually was putting together a gun safe yesterday, and I was able to just take a photo of the safe from a distance

00:15:09.600 and say, how do I do all these things, and how do I program everything?

00:15:13.340 And it's better than any manual.

00:15:15.260 I mean, it's incredible what it can do.

00:15:16.680 I bring this up in the context of this investigation because now you can work with pretty sophisticated tools.

00:15:24.780 If you have still images, if you have basic geolocation data, I mean, you can start to do some high level,

00:15:34.340 certainly much more high level than what have you been capable by law enforcement 10, 15 years ago.

00:15:39.620 So this is catching up really quickly, and this is, I think, changing the world all around us in a whole range of ways.

00:15:48.860 But the ability now to – I mean, think about this.

00:15:51.820 How far are we from facial recognition being – now, I know this guy, I think his face was covered.

00:15:57.440 They're already using that in some police departments across the country.

00:16:01.240 Oh, in police departments they are.

00:16:02.580 I mean people being able to run programs at home.

00:16:05.960 You know, this is – I mean, the tech is getting so widespread that what we used to think of as a law enforcement exclusive tool,

00:16:12.580 I think, is going to be something that you're seeing in the hands of these online sleuths.

00:16:17.500 And look – I mean, now this was – this is a whole other discussion, but there was a whole effort, as we all know, online.

00:16:25.140 The FBI not only had 30 percent of them weaponized against – under Biden, against the J6 protesters,

00:16:32.340 but there was a big online effort to track all those people down too.

00:16:36.500 So the public has become mobilized in a whole range of ways to be able to help law enforcement for good and for ill,

00:16:45.140 depending on the situation, but that's what's going on.

00:16:47.740 It's very creepy.

00:16:48.520 Yeah.

00:16:48.920 We had somebody on the show.

00:16:50.120 She had written a book on this, and she was talking about how they've got these glasses already,

00:16:54.900 not available for purchase yet, but these glasses that you could put on, and you could walk into a bar.

00:16:59.960 And let's say I see you, but I don't know you at this point.

00:17:02.880 And I go over and I try to hit on you, Buck Sexton, and you're like,

00:17:05.980 get out of here, old lady. 1.00

00:17:07.580 I'm married.

00:17:08.200 I'm a happily married man.

00:17:09.500 But now I'm like, I'm pissed.

00:17:11.920 Who is that cocky former CIA type? 0.65

00:17:15.140 I'm going to get him.

00:17:16.380 And I tap my glasses.

00:17:18.680 And based on facial recognition, not only do they tell me it's Buck Sexton,

00:17:22.380 they tell me where you live.

00:17:23.920 They tell me where you went to school.

00:17:25.940 They tell me all this identifying personal information about you,

00:17:28.860 which is just a very effed up way to live.

00:17:32.540 Privacy is essentially going to be a thing of the past.

00:17:35.960 I mean, we already have microphones that we,

00:17:39.060 active microphones that we carry all throughout our homes all the time.

00:17:42.720 I mean, yes, you and I, Megan, make a living by doing media.

00:17:45.540 So there's cameras and high-end audio equipment in certain rooms.

00:17:49.600 But people are carrying around open mics all the time.

00:17:52.940 We've all had this thing of you start talking about some subject,

00:17:56.380 and then you get an ad about it on your phone,

00:17:58.900 served to you when you're on Google or whatever it is.

00:18:01.020 This is real.

00:18:01.720 This is all around us.

00:18:02.640 And as the technology is going to,

00:18:05.800 this is a bit like Moore's Law with computing power,

00:18:08.280 and the technology that you have access to from AI

00:18:10.800 is going to continue to get more and more sophisticated,

00:18:13.520 such that you're going to have people who,

00:18:16.660 the second that they release anything about a major incident of public,

00:18:19.620 whether it's a mass shooting or any major incident of public interest,

00:18:23.980 the entire Internet is going to be able to use these different.

00:18:27.500 Now, I understand there's problems with this too.

00:18:29.700 How do you verify? Who do you trust? How do you know?

00:18:32.660 But the data and the access to analysis of that data

00:18:37.660 that everyone's going to have is,

00:18:39.620 we are in a brave new world. It is changing.

00:18:41.600 And the fact, I mean, you just read that whole Reddit thread.

00:18:44.780 I mean, that was more sophisticated than most of the police reports

00:18:48.000 that I used to read when I was in the Intel division.

00:18:49.800 I mean, that was more detailed. It was more...

00:18:51.960 This guy, if this really is a homeless guy,

00:18:54.880 I mean, this is a hero.

00:18:56.620 This guy, John, is a hero.

00:18:57.700 He posted something this morning saying,

00:18:59.460 I'm not going to be posting really anything else.

00:19:01.980 I might... He said, I might like up comments,

00:19:05.260 like positive comments, things that I like online,

00:19:07.320 but that's all I'm going to do.

00:19:08.240 But we got to know more about John.

00:19:10.160 I wanted to mention something about...

00:19:11.480 You mentioned the cameras, which will be, you know,

00:19:13.580 which we're kind of used to being everywhere.

00:19:15.000 That was a problem in this case.

00:19:16.320 Why weren't they everywhere inside of this building?

00:19:19.280 This was a big bone of contention last night.

00:19:21.620 And there was a kind of suggestion by the officials.

00:19:27.780 There were some cameras inside the building

00:19:30.760 where the shooting took place at Brown University,

00:19:32.580 but that whatever cameras there were

00:19:35.020 did not capture what happened in this classroom

00:19:37.160 or the guy's ingress or egress from the building.

00:19:42.120 Obviously, that's true.

00:19:43.260 Otherwise, they would have shown us his pictures on day one.

00:19:46.100 So then there was a question about why.

00:19:47.680 Why didn't we have more cameras?

00:19:48.620 And then there was a question about whether many of them

00:19:51.540 had been turned off at the behest

00:19:53.840 of the pro-Palestinian activists on campus,

00:19:56.520 of which there are many at Brown University.

00:19:59.880 And there's been more and more reporting

00:20:01.820 that that actually did happen.

00:20:03.760 Well, there was an exchange with a reporter

00:20:05.880 and Christina Hulpax, and again, she's the president of Brown,

00:20:10.040 about the lack of video to help solve this murder.

00:20:13.360 And listen to this exchange, Sop 5.

00:20:16.900 Yeah.

00:20:17.480 Dan.

00:20:19.420 President Paxson, Dan Jay from NBC10.

00:20:22.200 I want to go back to the question I asked you Saturday night

00:20:24.620 when I first arrived on the scene.

00:20:27.100 There were no cameras in this building.

00:20:30.340 And law enforcement, some that are standing up behind you,

00:20:33.020 have said if Brown had cameras in that part of the building,

00:20:36.900 we would have gotten this guy.

00:20:38.060 And it may have stopped the swirling action.

00:20:44.060 Can you answer that question for me?

00:20:46.540 Well, I don't think we have said the locations of cameras at Brown.

00:20:51.060 But no cameras in that building, because why would they take it from a rental car agency?

00:20:54.640 We have 1,200 cameras at Brown.

00:20:56.980 But not in that building.

00:20:58.140 We have some in that building.

00:20:59.600 It's a large complex.

00:21:00.980 And I think what you would see is the video evidence in this case, from my perspective,

00:21:06.820 I'm not a law enforcement agent, has been incredibly helpful.

00:21:10.320 The moving of the person around the neighborhood, those video images,

00:21:15.460 they helped crack this case.

00:21:16.980 So I think video was important.

00:21:19.120 Video played a big role in this case.

00:21:21.960 The neighbor's video.

00:21:23.760 The rental car video.

00:21:25.580 But not the video from the building that he walked in freely both before when he got in the confrontation

00:21:31.000 and when he came back in and decided to kill people.

00:21:33.500 You didn't have cameras in that building.

00:21:37.020 Just say it so we can get this over.

00:21:38.980 And my next question is, will you put the cameras in the building?

00:21:44.240 Will there be more cameras in that building?

00:21:45.500 You know, I think we need to look back.

00:21:47.800 We'll look at everything that is done that I do not think a lack of cameras in that building

00:21:52.060 had anything to do with what happened now.

00:21:57.680 No one suggests it caused it.

00:22:00.020 Although, who knows?

00:22:01.220 Maybe he did scope out what areas didn't have cameras beforehand.

00:22:04.840 But it led.

00:22:06.540 I mean, I'm sorry.

00:22:07.460 I'm not blaming the MIT professor's murder on her.

00:22:10.360 But it did indirectly lead to another life being caused.

00:22:13.860 Because if we had had that guy on camera, who knows how quickly they could have caught him, Buck.

00:22:18.600 And by the way, that reporter's name is Dan Jenny from NBC10.

00:22:22.000 Good for you, Dan.

00:22:23.040 Yeah, well, he's putting Janet Reno in a tough spot up there or whatever it is from Brown University. 0.98

00:22:27.580 She there's no good answer for what it is that that that is being asked, because clearly they had they had not really thought through this as a meaningful security measure for this facility.

00:22:40.280 And a place like Brown University, I mean, you know this, Megan, I've been putting this out on radio for a few days.

00:22:46.400 I had a family member, an aunt who went there.

00:22:49.460 It is the most left wing Ivy League school, and it is among the most left wing of all schools.

00:22:55.540 It just has that has always had that reputation.

00:22:57.820 They don't get grades there.

00:23:00.080 Now, what does that have to do with this investigation, right?

00:23:01.800 I'm not just taking cheap shots at the communists.

00:23:04.320 Well, maybe I'm taking cheap shots at the communists.

00:23:06.300 But what it has to do with the security procedures here is that this is a place that generally lives in a fantasy land of bad things don't happen.

00:23:16.700 We're never going to have to really deal with law enforcement.

00:23:19.520 We don't have to think about, you know,

00:23:20.780 the worst thing that Brown University thinks they're going to have to deal with in a day to day sense is somebody using the wrong preferred pronouns.

00:23:27.900 Like this is not a place that is taking seriously the security, the physical safety and security of its students in a way that I think it should.

00:23:38.240 I mean, just based on the fact that they don't even have good answers here for, yeah, why do you not have a camera?

00:23:43.340 Now, they could say it's an old building and we got cameras in a lot of places.

00:23:46.340 All right. But, you know, who's in charge of security on this campus?

00:23:50.900 I mean, who's actually making sure that people are safe?

00:23:53.680 And also, where was the armed response to this as well?

00:23:56.680 This guy was able to get out of there very easily, very quickly.

00:23:59.880 I also like to point out to everyone, he would know that Brown completely bans anybody from being able to conceal carry on that campus.

00:24:08.200 So he this guy who now it seems pretty clear, I think, right, it's like a planned out grudge mass shooter. 0.69

00:24:15.920 I mean, he shot a whole lot of people. So I'm sure there's just some level of psychosis that's tied into this.

00:24:20.540 But it seems like he was he was, you know, pissed off at people for some reason or a number of people.

00:24:26.560 But he would know that the Brown University police, I'm sure there's a whole thing about how we can't have too many armed cops.

00:24:35.700 You know, that scares people. Police having weapons is frightening.

00:24:39.700 We're going to have like violence interrupters first and foremost with it.

00:24:42.740 We had some of this at my school, Amherst, by the way.

00:24:45.520 You know, it's like, oh, if you call, we don't want the cops to actually arrive for anything, even if there's a huge fight and people are getting stabbed because people might get pepper sprayed.

00:24:54.420 And there could be, you know, diversity could suffer depending on the situation.

00:24:58.200 There's all kinds of things.

00:24:59.320 No, that police, sorry, the mayor of Providence, who just embarrassed himself throughout this process, even with the shooter still on the loose less than 48 hours after 11 kids were shot at Brown University, was saying this.

00:25:17.180 OK, this is hours before the MIT professor would be shot dead in his apartment vestibule.

00:25:22.500 Listen to that, too.

00:25:23.700 So this is Monday on CNN explain this notion that appears to be in conflict.

00:25:30.380 There's a killer on the loose and a manhunt underway.

00:25:33.320 So how can that be the case when you say there is?

00:25:36.440 Why are you confident there is no threat to public safety?

00:25:38.760 The call came in for the shooting at 4.05 p.m. on Saturday.

00:25:45.700 It's Monday morning, 10 a.m. Eastern.

00:25:49.360 And there has not been a single credible or specific threat that we've received since that time.

00:25:58.220 And so just because of those facts, that's why we believe it is safe and appropriate for residents in Providence to be sending their kids to school today and to be out in the community.

00:26:15.520 There there has been no follow up threat.

00:26:18.320 Oh, my God.

00:26:21.000 He literally said there's been there is no threat to public safety on Saturday, Saturday after the shooting.

00:26:29.700 He said people may want to cancel their plans, but I don't feel it's necessary.

00:26:35.640 And we haven't received any additional credible information that there's an ongoing threat.

00:26:40.480 The students' bodies were barely cold at that point.

00:26:46.940 And he's saying there's no ongoing.

00:26:48.700 That is a liberal mania on how crime is just not a thing.

00:26:55.440 You're immediately safe because the shooting event is over.

00:26:59.540 Go about your lives, folks who live in Providence.

00:27:02.440 Oh, and vote for me. 0.96

00:27:04.060 Oh, of course.

00:27:04.660 Well, I think he took the wrong lesson from the mayor in Jaws, who's like, the beaches will be open this weekend.

00:27:09.420 It's like, well, there's still a shark out there.

00:27:11.080 So maybe think a little a little harder about that.

00:27:15.000 I love that mayor.

00:27:15.840 Yeah.

00:27:16.220 I mean, Jaws is the best.

00:27:17.720 That thing really holds up.

00:27:19.260 But this this guy, look, there's there was a lot of incompetence here.

00:27:23.460 This is something to be to be fair when you're dealing with these smaller, whether it's a law enforcement.

00:27:30.560 First of all, the Brown University administration.

00:27:32.740 I don't think that they could figure out how to open a paper bag.

00:27:36.420 I mean, I just feel this is these these institutions have been so absolutely top to bottom, overtaken by the worst kinds of mediocrity and delusional thinking.

00:27:48.400 And I mean, from the administrative side, never mind the academics and the students.

00:27:52.460 So that's not a surprise at all.

00:27:53.720 Well, in a place like the Providence, Rhode Island Police Department, you know, I mean, the guy who's the chief of police also, I just know if you're going to be doing a press conference, it was not that easy to understand him, which is something that I don't think.

00:28:08.700 He's been here for 30 years.

00:28:09.960 Yeah.

00:28:10.100 What's up with that?

00:28:10.760 Like, hello.

00:28:11.940 What's up with like, you know, you can't kind of figure it out a little more.

00:28:16.820 I feel like we're allowed to at some point say, you know, if you're going to be in that public facing role, you shouldn't you shouldn't you should want to not sound like you got here a year ago.

00:28:27.760 And that is it shouldn't be so hard for us to understand.

00:28:30.360 I mean, it's a public safety issue.

00:28:32.560 I mean, you're sitting here.

00:28:33.280 There's a reason they have people that are doing all the sign language and stuff.

00:28:36.160 And so everybody can understand.

00:28:37.280 And I found myself with the Providence chief of police going, wait, what did he what was that he said?

00:28:42.380 And that's just not I know me, too. 0.84

00:28:43.980 Not a good at least they got rid of the crazy female signer who was just so obnoxious and desperate to call attention to herself. 1.00

00:28:50.700 The guy who was there yesterday, the bald man, was better. 0.97

00:28:53.680 Yeah, no, the female sign lady who was like doing crazy, like interpretive dances. 1.00

00:28:57.400 Over here, look at me, look at me.

00:28:59.700 I'm a star is my big moment.

00:29:00.800 She made she reminded me of that one sign language lady who turned out to be fake. 1.00

00:29:04.480 Remember, she wasn't actually saying I kind of I kind of miss her, to be honest.

00:29:07.540 It was pretty amazing.

00:29:08.360 But I hear you like if we're being serious here.

00:29:10.500 Yeah, of course, it's best not to have her doing all the stuff.

00:29:14.640 It's a distraction.

00:29:16.200 OK, I got to fire through a few more things while we're together because we have a shorter show today.

00:29:20.960 Two nights ago, President Trump giving remarks from the White House on his what he says is are hot.

00:29:30.880 Our country's hot again.

00:29:32.040 It's hot.

00:29:32.880 Mentioning the economy.

00:29:34.980 Inflation indeed has gone down.

00:29:36.400 He got a very favorable, favorable report yesterday morning, way better than analysts had expected.

00:29:41.160 And announcing that he was going to provide checks worth $1,776 is the number to our military personnel.

00:29:52.820 It turned out that that was some sort of a housing voucher that people got.

00:29:55.500 But in any event, he chipped almost $2,000 off of bills they owed.

00:29:58.980 And this is where Jake Tapper on CNN went with it.

00:30:04.760 OK, I just happened to be in the very fortunate position of seeing this.

00:30:09.580 And I couldn't believe what I was watching.

00:30:12.720 But here it is in Sot 9 yesterday.

00:30:16.100 That kind of manic delivery was was very, very disturbing, very pressure, very pressurized speech.

00:30:23.280 And as the address went on, his his cadence of his remarks became quicker.

00:30:30.900 And we've never seen the president like that.

00:30:33.560 He seemed almost frantic and it was disturbing to watch.

00:30:36.700 Earlier today, and this is not the first time this has happened,

00:30:39.980 the president appeared to be struggling to keep his eyes open during a public White House event in the Oval Office earlier today.

00:30:48.660 If that worries you, what's your take on that?

00:30:51.100 He's done this several times now in the last few weeks.

00:30:53.600 He's fallen asleep in a crowded Oval Office, and he's also fallen asleep at Cabinet meetings.

00:30:59.880 And that's what's called increased daytime somnolence.

00:31:02.860 Sometimes people with sleep apnea, people who wake up many times during the night and don't get restorative sleep, have that.

00:31:09.300 He has the chronic bruise.

00:31:10.360 He had swollen ankles.

00:31:11.860 He's had these mysterious scans.

00:31:13.840 I think all of this raises realistic concerns about the health of the president.

00:31:18.900 And it would be great if the White House was a little bit more forthcoming about about that.

00:31:26.220 You know, I can't be the only person who had concerns after watching him last night.

00:31:30.800 You weren't.

00:31:31.900 Oh, Tapper.

00:31:36.860 Oh, that's awesome.

00:31:38.300 Oh, man.

00:31:39.880 Can you believe?

00:31:41.320 Look, I honestly, there's a part of me that both I find I find Jake at CNN both deeply amusing and at this point a little bit sad.

00:31:53.200 He is reminiscent, as the serious journalist just asking questions, of the imperial Japanese soldiers found after World War II had ended.

00:32:02.180 I think one guy lasted 29 years in the jungles of the Philippines, ignoring the leaflets and refusing to accept that the war was over.

00:32:10.520 And then finally someone showed up who had been his commanding officer.

00:32:13.460 And I think he was willing to put down his arms like Jake is the lost imperial Japanese soldier of CNN.

00:32:20.160 Like he's still he's still keeping this whole thing going.

00:32:22.760 Like, I'm I'm just here doing the journalism.

00:32:25.000 It's like we all know what CNN is, buddy.

00:32:26.780 Just like I did.

00:32:27.420 Just like I did.

00:32:28.080 Just like I've been doing.

00:32:29.420 I've done this for every president.

00:32:31.060 Speaking.

00:32:31.620 It's so transparent.

00:32:32.960 Oh, man.

00:32:33.580 Speaking truth to power.

00:32:34.600 It's hilarious.

00:32:35.100 Right.

00:32:35.320 There's also the guy who is, as you well know, by the way.

00:32:37.500 And look.

00:32:37.840 Look, look.

00:32:39.400 Look what they're picking up on.

00:32:40.560 Buck, he spoke fast.

00:32:42.140 I know he that one time he spoke fast. 0.97

00:32:45.000 So he must have some sort of a brain disorder. 1.00

00:32:46.980 This is so pathetic. 1.00

00:32:48.460 And it's so obvious. 0.99

00:32:49.720 Like, at least you'd love to give him points for at least being clever.

00:32:53.540 You can't.

00:32:54.260 It's just so on the nose.

00:32:56.020 Nobody like I guess this is leftist sweet nothings that he thinks his audience wants now.

00:33:00.100 And he thinks he's got the credibility to do it since he wrote the book.

00:33:03.140 He literally wrote the book, Buck, on Joe Biden's poor mental health.

00:33:07.200 I have to give you credit, actually.

00:33:08.660 I don't know if we've we've addressed this on your show again.

00:33:11.860 But I came on before you interviewed Jake.

00:33:15.120 And I was like, Megan, you know, you're just you're very, like, cordial and polite and friendly person.

00:33:21.280 And you were just like, I don't think that that's going to mean with Jake's book that he's not going to.

00:33:26.920 And I watched that.

00:33:28.020 I watched your Jake interview and it was really good.

00:33:30.920 So you did not let him get away.

00:33:33.380 You did not let him get away with the nonsense.

00:33:35.520 I mean, that's a knock on me.

00:33:36.440 Sometimes people be like, oh, you're too polite.

00:33:38.040 You're too nice.

00:33:38.620 And I'm like, well, until I get pissed off.

00:33:40.180 Well, it's hard when you have people on who you, you know, have somewhat of a friendly relationship with.

00:33:43.720 Right, of course.

00:33:44.600 But like that was just such an egregious claim.

00:33:47.940 You were totally fair.

00:33:49.020 It was about the subject matter.

00:33:50.420 It wasn't personal.

00:33:51.080 You were totally fair to him.

00:33:51.940 And the whole thing was preposterous.

00:33:53.180 And you're just like, OK, I'm going to let you make the case.

00:33:55.340 This isn't preposterous, what you're doing, but it was preposterous.

00:33:58.340 And we all saw that.

00:33:59.580 And the idea that somehow they've like cleansed themselves at CNN or the Democrats of this unbelievable stain on their integrity, which I don't think will ever go away, that we all knew Biden had dementia.

00:34:13.400 I mean, we we felt bad because it was such a frequent topic on our show on radio.

00:34:18.380 You couldn't ignore it.

00:34:20.040 You couldn't not see it.

00:34:21.800 It was the most obvious thing in the world.

00:34:23.120 And then they're going to tell us, oh, you know what?

00:34:25.480 We figured it out after that debate when it was clear that Biden couldn't run really anymore.

00:34:32.280 And now they want to look.

00:34:33.140 I think at some level, too, though, there's a bit of trolling here because they're like, well, if you did this to us, like if you knocked our guy out because he had dementia, we're going to do the same to you.

00:34:43.120 The problem is Trump doesn't have dementia.

00:34:46.160 That's the problem.

00:34:47.000 Trump's talking fast.

00:34:48.420 He's talking fast.

00:34:49.660 Oh, oh, I got to stop the presses.

00:34:51.720 Extra, extra.

00:34:52.580 All right, let's keep going.

00:34:53.600 There's more.

00:34:54.660 Scott Besson was at a D.C. restaurant and got harassed by code pink activists.

00:35:00.920 My my real question here is, how did they know he was going to be at this restaurant?

00:35:05.140 It's such six.

00:35:06.040 Take a look at this horrible thing.

00:35:07.660 We have a special guest here and we want to make a toast to the secretary of treasury, Scott Besson.

00:35:15.500 So let's give it up for the man who is eating in peace as people starve across the world based on his sanctions, which are economic warfare.

00:35:26.380 Of course, you're going to do this.

00:35:29.660 It's the truth.

00:35:30.800 He oversees the death of 600,000 people due to sanctions annually.

00:35:37.620 And this president, let's cheer to the Monroe Doctrine.

00:35:42.040 Trump today says that Venezuelan oil.

00:35:45.900 And you have no idea how important you are. 0.99

00:35:48.720 Ignorant, you are responsible for the death of 600,000 people annually because of sanctions. 0.99

00:35:54.700 How many people are going to die because of the blood is on your hands? 1.00

00:36:00.920 The blood is on your hands.

00:36:02.360 You should be ashamed.

00:36:03.980 It goes on and on and on because they want to harass the poor man while he's just having dinner, minding his own business, not bothering anybody in the corner.

00:36:15.920 This is like the devolution of like good and decency, like goodness and decency when it comes to our societal behavior.

00:36:24.440 And it does matter.

00:36:25.240 Well, you're nailing it there.

00:36:27.540 Code Pink is the Westboro Baptist Church of anti-war, you know, activists.

00:36:34.080 They're just.

00:36:34.640 So good.

00:36:35.040 Thank you. 0.99

00:36:35.760 They are disgusting. 0.94

00:36:36.940 You're right. That's so good. 0.96

00:36:37.740 They are. There we go.

00:36:38.640 They're vile morons. 1.00

00:36:40.460 Anybody who's a part of Code Pink is somebody you don't want to be around and you should not take seriously. 1.00

00:36:46.000 I'd also note that they generally I know people can find they probably yelled some things at Pelosi, but they overwhelmingly find that during Republican administrations, no matter what, you know, Trump is the guy who's like, I'm not starting any new wars.

00:36:58.360 We're not you know, we're not overthrowing Gaddafi in Libya like we're not doing this stuff.

00:37:02.540 And yet Code Pink is always so active during Republican administrations. 1.00

00:37:06.280 We know that they're idiots. 1.00

00:37:07.520 They do nothing other than get attention for themselves. 1.00

00:37:09.360 I think the people who are part of Code Pink honestly have undiagnosed anxiety or other disorders.

00:37:15.340 Like, I think it's a mental health issue to be a member of Code Pink and to do this kind of a thing.

00:37:20.220 I would just say I'm curious, Megan, because this is so important to me that it is it is the defenders of civilization in this situation who are the restaurant staff and an owner manager.

00:37:31.540 It's up to them to say, you are now trespassed.

00:37:34.440 Get out of here.

00:37:34.940 We're calling the police and to make their patron and to make their patron feel in this case, Scott Best.

00:37:39.640 And let me say this.

00:37:40.660 It's bipartisan for me. 0.99

00:37:41.880 If a bunch of Republicans act like a bunch of jerks, which this doesn't happen, but I'm just saying theoretically, if a bunch of Republicans started harassing a Democrat official like this in a restaurant, I would say the same thing. 0.97

00:37:53.620 Which is that we can't have civilized society if people can't have a dinner, you know, if an American can't have dinner in the quiet of the corner of a restaurant with whoever his wife or his, you know, friend's family. 0.99

00:38:07.800 We've lost something really essential as a society.

00:38:10.440 So I hope that that restaurant stood up for them.

00:38:12.760 I remember Ted Cruz.

00:38:13.900 By the way, though, like why?

00:38:14.980 Why the Treasury secretary?

00:38:16.120 Like if you're going to do this to anybody, Trump, Hegseth, I don't know.

00:38:20.800 But like, why the Treasury secretary?

00:38:23.040 It's the wrong.

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00:39:50.440 There is a Michigan State Senator by the name of Mallory McMorrow, and she's running for U.S. Senate.

00:40:02.960 And here is what she had to say at a local town hall this week.

00:40:06.260 SOT 7.

00:40:06.680 So I'm a Notre Dame grad, and Amy Coney Barrett coming out of my university makes me furious.

00:40:13.940 But just on a personal level, I talked to somebody yesterday who said they saw her with Brett Kavanaugh at a tailgate last weekend.

00:40:23.620 And I was like, I would not be able to control myself.

00:40:25.580 That would be bad.

00:40:26.420 But there would be fears thrown in people's faces.

00:40:31.200 Nice.

00:40:31.840 So she would like to be a U.S. senator. 0.96

00:40:33.960 Just in case you may have forgotten this, Buck, but you're going to remember it when I show it to you.

00:40:38.460 She is the, again, Michigan State representative, senator, who, with my note from my team, reads lizard tongue,

00:40:48.120 who spoke at the Democratic National Convention and had a very bad case of dry mouth.

00:40:55.480 Remember?

00:40:56.180 With the tongue.

00:40:57.200 I did not remember.

00:40:58.300 I had not seen this, actually.

00:40:59.700 This is amazing.

00:41:01.500 We're showing a 41-second.

00:41:03.960 Looks so many times with the tongue, it keeps coming way out of the mouth to try to find some saliva.

00:41:12.560 Oh, man.

00:41:13.320 So she's super nervous just to give a speech in front of a bunch of party-faithful people who are going to love everything she says. 0.62

00:41:20.820 But she's a tough guy.

00:41:22.740 She's a super tough guy, Buck.

00:41:24.440 When she sees Amy Coney Barrett and Brett Kavanaugh, if she saw them in public, she'd be throwing bottles of beer at them. 1.00

00:41:31.580 OK?

00:41:32.620 Sure.

00:41:33.540 Sure, Mallory.

00:41:34.500 That's also criminal.

00:41:35.300 I mean, it's assault.

00:41:35.980 You can't do that.

00:41:36.820 If you do that, you should be arrested and you should be prosecuted, right?

00:41:39.340 This isn't free speech.

00:41:40.880 I mean, she's openly at least bragging about how she would break the law because she disagrees with Supreme Court justices, too. 0.82

00:41:48.680 I mean, that's particularly egregious.

00:41:50.620 Look, the left, there are some things that are just broadly true, and they really can't be said enough.

00:41:57.820 And I think sometimes people are concerned about saying it.

00:42:04.360 One of them is—

00:42:05.320 You're looking at your background?

00:42:06.360 Yeah, sorry.

00:42:06.980 I just—I don't know what happened here.

00:42:08.700 It's like I offended the gods.

00:42:09.820 My background just changed.

00:42:11.580 There are a couple things.

00:42:12.600 One is that the Democrat Party, if you're going to be a criminal, if you're going to be a felon, it's the Democrat Party that is your home.

00:42:18.540 I think if you're going to—

00:42:20.280 Yes.

00:42:20.820 If you're going to replace religion, spirituality, a sense of something more important than the here and now with politics, you're also a Democrat. 0.73

00:42:31.880 And that leads to a whole lot of mental illness infused into one's politics and policies.

00:42:37.180 And this is why you see the behaviors that you do.

00:42:39.320 This is why you have people who would not be violent at all.

00:42:43.020 Like, does anyone think that—you know, whatever her name is.

00:42:45.300 I mean, I'm partial to redheads because I married one, but this redhead is doing— 1.00

00:42:49.200 She's doing the team injustice.

00:42:51.120 You know, this is not good for team redheads. 1.00

00:42:52.580 Lizard tongue.

00:42:53.160 You know?

00:42:53.680 Yeah.

00:42:54.340 Lizard tongue.

00:42:55.420 Lizard tongue.

00:42:55.940 You know, really.

00:42:56.740 I mean, yeah.

00:42:57.760 You don't have to drink more water.

00:42:59.680 I'm not sure what it is, but it's between you and your doctor.

00:43:02.020 Probably it's behavior like that, like we just saw, in addition to just their lackluster messaging and policies and what we're going to talk about in a minute, like the DEI and its impact on actual Americans that the Dems have been pushing.

00:43:17.240 That led to this situation, as outlined by CNN's Harry Enten.

00:43:21.660 Watch this, Sot 7B from Thursday.

00:43:25.240 Democrats, in the minds of the American public, are lower than the Dead Sea.

00:43:30.040 The lowest ever. 0.53

00:43:31.120 Look at this.

00:43:31.580 Overall, they are 55 points underwater.

00:43:35.660 Their approval rating is south of 20 percent.

00:43:38.120 It's even worse when you look at independents.

00:43:40.380 Look at this.

00:43:41.160 Negative 61 points.

00:43:43.400 That means that their approval rating is 61 points lower than their disapproval rating.

00:43:47.880 Quinnipiac has been polling this question for the better part of the 21st century.

00:43:52.420 They have never found Democrats, at least those in Congress, in worse shape than they are right now.

00:44:01.100 Worst ever, Buck Sexton.

00:44:03.580 So I know the conventional wisdom is the Dems are going to win the midterms, and I actually also believe that.

00:44:10.120 But it's not totally lost.

00:44:11.840 I mean, there is more than ample weakness on the Dems side to exploit between now and November.

00:44:18.320 Yes, I'm concerned because when you look at what's really motivating people right now, so there's a little bit of a challenge here with, and I actually said this to the president when I saw him some months back.

00:44:32.220 Maybe it was during the summer, I said, sir, my complaint for you, if I could have a complaint, is that you secured the border so quickly that now that's baked in and everyone just sort of assumes like, oh, okay, so we have a secure border now, right?

00:44:46.480 I mean, it's a little bit of what have you done for me lately thinking on this, because we're not talking about that.

00:44:52.100 The deportations, which is the harder issue to handle, and also the one where there could be more downside.

00:45:00.200 That, I think, is something that's going to continue to be playing out in front of cameras, and there's more challenge with that.

00:45:11.380 Affordability, we're going to hear that word, right?

00:45:13.380 So the immigration thing, we've got a big win, but I don't think that's going to really mobilize people in the midterms.

00:45:18.240 It's going to be all about how expensive is housing, how expensive is food, and what do people feel like about their health care and their health care premiums.

00:45:25.780 And the Republicans, you know, it's their economy, right?

00:45:29.000 This is the challenge you run into with, yeah, Biden had the worst inflation in 40 years, but the truth is it's Trump's, it's his show now, and it's Scott Besson's show,

00:45:39.660 and they're going to be held responsible one way or another for what's going on.

00:45:45.760 Well, I think that's what Trump was doing on Wednesday night, trying to get out there and rejigger the messaging on it.

00:45:52.060 I want to keep going.

00:45:53.120 I mentioned it.

00:45:53.520 Did you think that was a good, that was a good, though, a good speech?

00:45:56.280 I just, I was a little, I thought it wasn't really, it was like he was.

00:45:59.840 No, it did nothing for me.

00:46:00.720 It came across like he was frustrated with people who are frustrated with the prices. 0.96

00:46:04.160 And I'm like, Trump, you are so much better on the economy than these lunatics. 0.69

00:46:09.660 I know, and I also just felt like it was so obvious.

00:46:13.020 Like, again, try to make it more clever that you're not just giving a campaign rally before people go home for Christmas.

00:46:18.980 You know, it's like, I don't know, you got to be careful.

00:46:21.740 You just got to be careful about telling them everything's great and the tariffs are wonderful and, you know, inflation's no longer a problem.

00:46:30.400 At this time of year in particular, when people, everyone feels stretched, you know, where he did the speech, what, 10 days before Christmas, less than.

00:46:38.200 Everybody has overspent.

00:46:39.700 They've probably gone out of their budget because they love their kids and everybody wants to give their kids a magical Christmas and so on and Hanukkah, all of it.

00:46:46.460 So you've had holiday parties that you couldn't afford to throw and you went to ones where you, whatever.

00:46:52.440 So it's not a great time to be telling everybody it's all great.

00:46:56.420 I think honesty is better.

00:46:58.140 But, you know, Trump is the quintessential marketing guy.

00:47:01.400 He would never resort to just like cold, hard honesty.

00:47:03.880 Like it hurts and I know it hurts, but I swear that part where it gets better is coming soon.

00:47:08.960 There's there's one part of it that that Trump Trump keeps saying things like it's a fill in the blank hoax.

00:47:15.240 And I know what he is saying.

00:47:17.720 He said this, by the way, this is with the Epstein files.

00:47:20.740 This is with affordability.

00:47:22.080 What he's saying is the Democrat narrative on this is like that this is my fault or that I'm hiding or whatever, that they're lying to you.

00:47:31.040 I want him to go back to fake news.

00:47:33.160 That's a way better shorthand, because when he says the affordability, which he's, you know, they've been running with this constantly at MS Now, by the way.

00:47:42.820 You know, I watch Morning Joe sometimes for fun, for amusement.

00:47:45.500 It's MS Now.

00:47:46.840 But but he says affordability is a hoax, Megan.

00:47:49.620 And people go, no, that's not a hoax.

00:47:51.520 He doesn't mean that the prices aren't high and this isn't a challenge.

00:47:54.340 He means Democrats saying that his tariffs or his choices or whatever have caused this is the hoax.

00:48:00.160 And I just think that's him.

00:48:01.580 Again, people think in soundbites, as you know, people vote based on soundbites.

00:48:05.280 And I think we need to clean that up a little bit.

00:48:08.500 I have a shocking story to tell you about Joe Scarborough.

00:48:11.200 Oh.

00:48:11.460 He and I actually had a nice moment this week.

00:48:16.680 I went to the Mediaite party for 2025.

00:48:20.560 It's where this website that writes about, you know, media clips and media personalities invites a bunch of people in the media to come to this party.

00:48:28.560 And sort of it's the one time of year where you cross paths with people who you may not be able to stand, people you've been criticizing, people have been ripping you.

00:48:37.620 And it's kind of like detente for a night.

00:48:39.640 It's nice.

00:48:40.240 I like it.

00:48:41.600 And believe it or not, Joe Scarborough came over to me and I was like, oh, God, I don't know where this is going.

00:48:48.240 It could go any number of places.

00:48:49.980 And he said something really sweet about Mark Halperin, who is his friend.

00:48:57.520 And it was something to the effect of, thanks for helping Mark get back on his feet.

00:49:02.920 And I was like, I love Mark Halperin, you know, thanks for saying that.

00:49:07.340 And it was sincere.

00:49:08.500 And he was like genuinely warm.

00:49:11.460 And I was like, you know what, just a good reminder as we go into the holidays that these people who we all rip on and who rip on us, we're all human.

00:49:20.100 We're in the same game.

00:49:21.500 We have plenty of fodder to pick back up with tomorrow.

00:49:25.060 But I don't know.

00:49:27.180 It was it kind of restored my faith in humanity that like that was sweet.

00:49:31.020 And he knows I've ripped on him endlessly.

00:49:33.300 But he made a point of putting that to the side because he cares about his friend.

00:49:37.000 And I do, too.

00:49:38.280 So it was a nice moment.

00:49:39.480 Well, I'm sure, honestly, if I were able to don my zip sweater and join Joe out on the croquet field or something for a few minutes, I think we would have a great time at the country club together.

00:49:53.580 I think we would get along famously.

00:49:55.100 We're two guys with side swoop hair.

00:49:57.500 He probably, just like me, had the same hair when he was like five years old.

00:50:00.320 Never changed it.

00:50:00.760 Side swoop.

00:50:01.380 You know, we've both gone through 20 pairs of top siders over our lives.

00:50:05.720 Lots of boat shoes, even though we don't boat that much.

00:50:07.900 I mean, Joe and I probably have a lot in common.

00:50:10.900 But I would say one thing you brought up, Mark Halpern.

00:50:14.400 It's funny because we played a lot of his clips on radio for his analysis to just sort of work his insights into the conversation.

00:50:23.960 And if I may say so, this is and not just because I'm in the Christmas spirit and I'm basically on Christmas break other than doing your show.

00:50:29.900 So you have a great eye for talent, Megan, and no real talent.

00:50:34.400 Now, of course, you were the first person to ever put me on in primetime at Fox News when you had three plus million viewers in the 9 p.m.

00:50:41.260 It didn't take much to see you.

00:50:43.040 Thank you.

00:50:43.360 It's very nice.

00:50:43.840 It did not.

00:50:44.460 I wish I could say that's my genius, but it was very obvious.

00:50:46.900 Hey, you're first.

00:50:48.080 Number one.

00:50:48.740 Never.

00:50:48.920 You never forget.

00:50:49.760 Never forget.

00:50:50.400 First primetime host.

00:50:52.420 No, apparently you do.

00:50:53.560 You do because I have a – I have a –

00:50:56.300 Do you have people that aren't –

00:50:57.280 I believe Ben Shapiro is not as grateful as you are.

00:50:58.980 I was going to say, that is the one thing that for me I never – and I'm sure you're the same way because I, at a lesser level, have been able to also now, because I've been doing this for 15 years, help people out.

00:51:10.600 I never require a thank you and I never require payback.

00:51:14.640 But people who go in the opposite direction when I've helped them – Megan, I've had people who want to –

00:51:20.380 They want to come on and, like, sell their book on my show.

00:51:23.120 And I'm like, you unfollowed me on Twitter.

00:51:26.440 What are you doing?

00:51:27.180 Yeah.

00:51:27.880 Oh, my God, Buck.

00:51:29.080 If I could tell you, like, my basic rule is if you're going to be my so-called friend and keep tagging me on Twitter with posts attacking me, like, I'll let you get away with one, maybe two.

00:51:40.260 You start doing it regularly and I unfollow you.

00:51:42.280 Oh, dead to me.

00:51:42.520 Like, that's – why would I keep you in my timeline if you just – like, you're supposed to be my friend.

00:51:46.140 And there's this one particular person who I did this with who's now out there railing, crying in his soup every day about how I unfollowed him.

00:51:52.040 Guess why?

00:51:52.880 You kept tagging me on attacks against me.

00:51:55.160 Why would I continue to follow you? 1.00

00:51:57.260 It's just – it's so pathetic. 0.98

00:51:58.560 And when it's a so-called friend or somebody who you've helped, yeah, it's particularly galling. 0.99

00:52:04.100 Zero loyalty.

00:52:05.320 Yeah.

00:52:05.520 And we all know – it's funny, too, in the business, I think everybody knows the people who are stand-up and who for their people will – I have a standing rule on radio and I tell the audiences because I want them to be fully informed of this.

00:52:17.820 And I'll say – because sometimes I'll send in a clip of somebody and even people, as you know, I'm sure you have friends like this, too, who have gone fully and I would say even maybe psychotically anti-Trump, but they're friends of mine or I've known them for years or I've worked with them in the past.

00:52:32.400 And I will not hit a friend of mine on the air because if I am going to criticize somebody in what we do, if I see them in person, I'm going to stand behind what I said and be like, yeah, you deserve that.

00:52:44.440 You know, I'm not going to see them in person and be like, hey, let's go for a drink.

00:52:48.300 We're great friends. 0.94

00:52:48.940 I'd take a hit at you. 1.00

00:52:49.900 And so to keep everything on the up and up, I don't hit my friends publicly and I note very clearly who does because if they'll do it to anyone, they'll do it to you.

00:52:59.820 It's also a bit like a good rule.

00:53:01.120 By the way, this is a rule for everybody, not just for people like you and me who work in media.

00:53:04.520 People that do this thing of sharing publicly private text messages when they get into a spat with somebody, dead to me.

00:53:10.400 Yep.

00:53:10.880 Dead to me forever.

00:53:12.180 Never again.

00:53:13.180 Never again.

00:53:13.840 I know.

00:53:14.440 No, honestly, like there are some people who are coming for me right now who I could totally humiliate with their prior texts, but I won't.

00:53:21.440 I won't because I agree with you.

00:53:23.380 That's just bad form.

00:53:25.140 What's meant to be a private text is to stay a private text.

00:53:27.800 It's like, but come on, grow up.

00:53:29.600 But yeah, no, it's very annoying.

00:53:30.920 And it's just part of our life.

00:53:32.620 Now, I will say this.

00:53:34.100 Government officials are different.

00:53:35.400 Like I'm rooting for everybody in Trump's government.

00:53:37.480 I am like I love cash.

00:53:39.200 I love Dan.

00:53:39.980 But they have to get ripped on every once in a while because they're they're in, you know,

00:53:43.360 I'll be public position.

00:53:44.540 So that's a little more complicated, but we have to do it.

00:53:47.960 If we don't do it, then we're Jake Tapper.

00:53:50.360 Then we're MSNBC.

00:53:51.480 We're Rachel Maddow.

00:53:52.540 Right.

00:53:52.700 So it's like it gets trickier.

00:53:54.540 And hopefully those guys are all big boys who understand that's the nature of our business.

00:53:58.520 And in my experience, they all have been very fine with that.

00:54:01.080 They understand it.

00:54:02.060 Yes.

00:54:02.280 No, I think that is.

00:54:03.580 Again, there's there's criticizing the roles that some or rather the actions that somebody takes in a role and how their decision making has gone in that context.

00:54:14.520 And then there's going after somebody sort of personally or trying to humiliate them.

00:54:17.540 And I think that you do have an obligation when somebody has the kind of power.

00:54:21.840 I mean, look, Pete Hegsess, a friend of mine.

00:54:23.240 Right.

00:54:23.440 He's a friend of yours.

00:54:25.280 Pete is the secretary of war and they're blowing up boats full of people.

00:54:28.760 Now, I am not opposed to their rationale for this, but I'm just saying that's a lot of power to have.

00:54:34.360 Right.

00:54:34.600 You know, so if somebody is doing if you think somebody has erred in their decision making and they have the power of life and death over other human beings, I'm just using this as an example.

00:54:45.080 You know, you have to hold that to account at some level.

00:54:47.740 Right.

00:54:47.960 And, you know, if let's say if they blew up the wrong boat, I'd have to say, guys, this is a really big problem.

00:54:53.940 I couldn't just say, oh, you know, you know, stuff happens.

00:54:57.040 Yeah.

00:54:57.220 Or you're a shill. 0.85

00:54:58.600 You know, you're a shill. 0.98

00:54:59.440 So you can't become a shill. 0.63

00:55:00.440 OK, I want to keep going.

00:55:01.360 So I really do want to get to this.

00:55:02.340 It was published in Compaq magazine on Monday.

00:55:04.680 It's almost nine thousand words in length.

00:55:06.780 It's entitled The Lost Generation, and it's by Los Angeles based writer Jacob Savage.

00:55:11.420 He tried to publish it in.

00:55:13.060 He told to Matt Taibbi that he tried to publish it in the Atlantic, but they demanded changes to it.

00:55:18.620 So he said no.

00:55:19.760 He said they were interested, but then they came back and were like, it has to only be about you and your experience in Hollywood.

00:55:24.120 You could do some stats or whatever.

00:55:26.040 They didn't want him to make it more broadly about the plight of white men.

00:55:30.100 Like it can just be a personal story.

00:55:31.880 That's it.

00:55:32.320 Beyond that, no.

00:55:33.500 So he said no, and he published it in Compaq, and it's devastating.

00:55:36.640 And what the heart of it is, is that white men have been utterly devastated, especially millennial white men, by DEI.

00:55:44.820 That this is not just some term, as J.D. Vance pointed out the other day, that means extra, you know, sensitivity sessions on implicit bias at your workplace that you roll your eyes at.

00:55:54.880 No, a generation of white men have had their career prospects obliterated, not to mention their self-worth because of this pernicious ideology that was accepted at every level of society. 0.51

00:56:10.880 From schools to colleges to sports to corporate America, Hollywood, media, you name it.

00:56:47.580 Brides made never the bride. 0.93

00:56:48.700 At a certain point, he began to see himself the way the search committees did.

00:56:54.400 Listen to this, Buck.

00:56:55.000 Other identifiers or other things I valued about myself have receded.

00:57:01.760 Being a white man, meanwhile, moved into the foreground in a way that I didn't expect.

00:57:08.360 He was taught to loathe it. 0.98

00:57:10.640 He was taught to see it as something for which he needed to apologize or feel bad about, which is disgusting.

00:57:18.980 And now the roosters are coming home to roost.

00:57:22.260 The chickens are coming home to roost with the real life toll of this hideous ideology becoming more public.

00:57:30.520 Well, Megan, I'm a white male millennial, actually.

00:57:34.440 I qualify as somebody in this cohort.

00:57:37.980 And so this is very personal for me.

00:57:40.040 This is very personal for a lot of my friends, for my brothers who are close to my age.

00:57:44.820 We saw this.

00:57:45.860 We dealt with this.

00:57:47.300 And people need to speak about this.

00:57:49.760 You have to remove a lot of the enforced dogma and doctrine, and you have to sort of brush away the nonsense from your mind on this.

00:58:01.860 This was just explicit discrimination.

00:58:04.540 I mean, this was actually—and there's been this thing for a while where they'll say reverse discrimination or, oh, it's so hard to be a white man or whatever.

00:58:10.320 No, it's not so hard to be a white man if you're a boomer who's already got enough stock options to retire or is working on the Aspen Ski House or the equivalent in academia.

00:58:21.240 You're already a tenured professor at Harvard.

00:58:23.360 You've already had your career.

00:58:25.200 They fed white millennial men's futures into the wood chipper, and they felt righteous doing it. 0.98

00:58:33.360 And we all saw it, and we were all being told, sorry, we have to—we were like the human sacrifice in order to atone for America's history of racism.

00:58:43.800 But it wasn't even just racism.

00:58:45.480 It was—they were doing this to benefit Latinos, and they were doing this for Native Americans, and they were doing this for women in fields, you know, STEM, where there weren't enough women.

00:58:53.320 And they were doing this in all these different contexts.

00:58:55.100 You sit here and you say, how can it be moral to tell somebody, I was going to hire you, you're the best person for the job, but you're white and you're a guy, so no. 1.00

00:59:07.420 This happened, and one of the ways that you knew that it was immoral—by the way, this is how I—my first realization—I was in, like, eighth grade, but my first realization, like, I'm a conservative or I'm a Republican, was around this issue.

00:59:20.720 And honestly, it had to do with the double standards that I saw playing out over and over again through institutions for behavior, for college admissions, and then later on for jobs.

00:59:33.560 Like, what year would that have been, Buck, just to give me an idea of where we are?

00:59:36.460 I mean, I graduated college in 2004, so I'm—I would have been—you know, I'm at the very oldest edge of millennials, but my brother is five years younger than me, for example.

00:59:47.540 He went to Georgetown, and, I mean, it was just known on campuses during the hiring.

00:59:53.200 And remember, this is for people—your early trajectory can make—makes a huge difference, not just in your career, but also your earning potential, your ability to build a family and, you know, live in a major American city and support that family.

01:00:07.820 We were just told, like, look, if you're going to try to get a job at Goldman Sachs, like, they're going to hire women and black students way before you because they've—now, people would say, but Goldman Sachs is full of white guys, or, you know, Morgan Stanley, same thing.

01:00:23.640 And, yeah, at the partner level and at the VP, like, they already had, you know, been at the trough for decades.

01:00:31.080 It was the people, the millennials who were coming up, and this is what this piece gets to, and there were real consequences for this, too.

01:00:36.940 TV writing turned into garbage in the last 10 years, garbage top to bottom all over the place.

01:00:44.840 And it's because the writers' rooms were full of second- and third-tier skilled writers because they were the preferred ethnicity or gender or sexual orientation or they were trans or whatever it may be. 0.91

01:00:56.780 The reason this has been such a phenomenon, this article, and I've shared it and I've talked to my family about it and J.D. Vance and everybody, is that this is a truth that we were all observing, but we weren't allowed to say.

01:01:11.000 You weren't allowed to say this.

01:01:12.100 I wasn't allowed to point out that I went to a college that turned down 85% of the applicants, Megan, but they had to have a special summer course for basic math and basic reading for Black and Native American and some other groups of students.

01:01:28.300 Like, I mean, I had friends who got like 1550 on the SAT and at 4-0s, they didn't get in, but were doing basic math.

01:01:37.120 It's still happening.

01:01:37.760 I know it's still happening, but at least now we can talk about it.

01:01:41.120 Before it was, what we were being told was this was making no difference whatsoever to the quality of the applicant, to the skills of the, or, you know, to the skills of the person, and therefore it wouldn't make any difference in these institutions.

01:01:54.060 That is a lie.

01:01:55.360 It is obviously a lie.

01:01:57.080 And you've seen this now.

01:01:58.200 And you know what else?

01:01:58.860 You know what else?

01:01:59.280 This is an important point.

01:02:01.020 It's illegal.

01:02:02.040 Yes. 0.99

01:02:02.480 It's totally fucking illegal. 0.98

01:02:04.900 And the great piece of this story now, today, in almost 2026 America, is, well, I'll just play it. 0.99

01:02:13.960 The chairwoman of the EEOC, Andrea Lucas, has something that you need to hear.

01:02:20.340 Take a listen.

01:02:21.840 I'm Andrea Lucas, chair of the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

01:02:26.480 Are you a white male who's experienced discrimination at work based on your race or sex?

01:02:30.840 You may have a claim to recover money under federal civil rights laws.

01:02:35.520 Contact the EEOC as soon as possible.

01:02:38.240 Time limits are typically strict for filing a claim.

01:02:41.900 The EEOC is the federal agency charged with enforcing federal anti-discrimination law against businesses and other private sector employers.

01:02:50.300 The EEOC is committed to identifying, attacking, and eliminating all forms of race and sex discrimination, including against white male applicants and employees.

01:03:01.040 Check out EEOC.gov to learn more and read our one-page explainer about DEI-related discrimination.

01:03:07.540 That's fantastic.

01:03:10.920 Hallelujah.

01:03:11.460 That was insane.

01:03:12.060 That was great.

01:03:12.680 That was like a Christmas miracle.

01:03:14.440 Everybody who's been, every white male listening, if you've been discriminating, please, Sue, please do this.

01:03:19.120 Because, by the way, the next administration, they're going to, all of a sudden, you're going to have to use the preferred pronoun.

01:03:23.960 If it's a Democrat, but you're going to have to use the preferred pronouns.

01:03:26.600 And we're going to go back.

01:03:27.420 They're going to try to find ways around this and all this other nonsense.

01:03:30.560 They need to feel the pain of the discrimination that they engaged in.

01:03:35.600 And everybody needs to be willing to go back and say, why weren't more people vocal about this?

01:03:40.520 Why weren't more people willing to say, clearly, you're taking people with lesser skills, with less impressive credentials, whether it's for academia, for writing in Hollywood, for, you know, big law.

01:03:52.320 I mean, just go down the list.

01:03:54.820 And, I mean, this is what was going on.

01:03:56.780 And it was systemic across the whole country.

01:03:59.020 And finally, now someone says, and the problem was, Megan, they kept saying, oh, well, look, these institutions still, it's still 80% white or it's still, you know, 65% white men or whatever.

01:04:09.220 At the top, maybe.

01:04:10.760 But this is where the millennial aspect of it, this policy was instituted in a way where the people who really suffered were roughly my age cohort within 10 years.

01:04:19.880 So, again, I saw this up close and personal.

01:04:21.960 I mean, I saw who was getting jobs out of Amherst at all these top firms.

01:04:24.960 And if you were the right ethnicity, you got, you got a job offer from everyone.

01:04:31.560 Oh, I mean, of course, we all see it's still happening.

01:04:34.760 And it's, it's breeding race, race resentment.

01:04:38.780 Of course.

01:04:39.420 Truly.

01:04:39.840 They love this story.

01:04:40.960 It's breeding a complete backlash.

01:04:42.180 The very thing they claimed existed that didn't, they've created.

01:04:44.860 They love this story at CNN where they'll go, oh, you know, here is like, here is a student and it's generally, you know, a student who is black, usually a black female, who got into every Ivy League school and we're all supposed to clap.

01:04:57.780 And I want to be like, okay, what were her SATs?

01:05:00.800 I'm just wondering, because I had friends who got perfect SATs, perfect SATs, who didn't get in to, you know, any Ivy League school on the first go around.

01:05:10.380 A lot of them don't get in anywhere and they don't even just apply to Ivy Leagues now.

01:05:14.120 I mean, I've seen it happen.

01:05:15.180 There was that article in the New York Post a couple months ago from the Asian kid who like literally had a perfect score on the SAT, had a perfect GPA.

01:05:22.400 Asians get it even worse than whites. 1.00

01:05:23.500 Yes, that's true. 0.99

01:05:24.440 And didn't get in anywhere because they really don't like the Asians. 1.00

01:05:28.240 I mean, it's blatant race discrimination.

01:05:30.640 And this is post the U.S. Supreme Court decision saying that's illegal.

01:05:34.720 You can't do that.

01:05:35.800 This is just like it's just like a mirror image of the civil rights or you have to actually enforce, which means you have to sue.

01:05:41.340 And, you know, I know Harmy Dillon at the Department of Justice has got her eye on this.

01:05:46.760 We need more people to take action here because, yeah, they're just ignoring it.

01:05:51.400 These institutions are trying to ignore as much as they can.

01:05:54.000 If you look at the at the admission rates at Harvard for different ethnicities, they've stayed pretty static.

01:05:59.080 And we know that they're playing games with this stuff.

01:06:01.220 So this this is a it's a hugely important conversation for the country.

01:06:05.280 It has created a tremendous amount of resentment and rightfully so.

01:06:09.700 And, you know, the thing that I think galls a lot of people, Megan, and this is for all the white guys around my age listening to this, is that you were you were kind of ridiculed in the most surly and condescending fashion.

01:06:22.340 Like, oh, it's so hard to be a white male.

01:06:24.560 It's like what?

01:06:26.120 I went to school with people.

01:06:28.060 I went to a scholarship high school and I went there were there were plenty of white kids.

01:06:31.020 There are plenty of minorities there.

01:06:32.160 But we're told that it's so easy for us.

01:06:36.080 How is it easy if you're being discriminated against when you're applying to college, you're being discriminated against when you're applying for jobs, being discriminated against when it comes to promotions?

01:06:44.420 Like, where does this white privilege thing kick in exactly?

01:06:48.300 I mean, you know.

01:06:49.100 And on top of it, you're being blamed for all society's ills for nothing you've done, but nothing you've done since of the father, the grandfather, the great, great people who are here when you weren't here.

01:06:58.020 To whom you have no relation, everything's your fault.

01:07:01.000 Well, this is also ties directly into why the Democrat Party is in such a bad position right now, because men have just men who have like normal testosterone levels and see reality for what it is are just fed up with the Democrat Party.

01:07:15.500 There's like this is this place is a joke.

01:07:17.100 And it's in part because of this, because black men, too, across the board, but they realize that this is just the Democrat Party lives in this weird fantasy land where you're not allowed to say what the most obvious you're not allowed to observe.

01:07:32.160 The Democrat Party is is engaged in a constant war on observation and people get tired of that.

01:07:38.480 Yeah, big time.

01:07:41.120 All right, I got to go, but I want to end on something positive.

01:07:44.320 And it is a story out of the Bondi Beach shooting that happened in Australia.

01:07:49.660 There were at least two civilians who tried to fight back against that father-son execution team waving the ISIS flag all over their cars as they took the lives of of Jewish gatherers trying to celebrate Hanukkah on the beach.

01:08:05.660 And one of the men, one of the men, one of the civilians, you see it here, who attacked one of the shooters is is named Ahmed Al-Akhmed.

01:08:17.340 He tried to get the gun away and did get the gun away and eventually wound up getting losing the gun and he got shot himself, unfortunately.

01:08:26.820 And he's OK.

01:08:28.000 He's in the hospital.

01:08:29.440 So people are hailing this guy as a hero because at least he tried.

01:08:32.400 You know, eventually we would see video of female cops cowering behind their cars. 1.00

01:08:37.580 And here you have a genuinely brave, heroic civilian doing the right thing.

01:08:42.220 He had no gun.

01:08:43.140 Just charge the guy and got his gun.

01:08:45.960 Anyway, there's been one of those public campaigns to get him something like a check or a donation.

01:08:52.840 And they did really well.

01:08:55.460 Well, two point five million dollars has been raised and they presented to him.

01:09:02.960 This is posted on TikTok.

01:09:05.080 Take a look at SOT15.

01:09:07.740 I came here with news of people around the world.

01:09:11.300 Forty three thousand people in the hospital.

01:09:14.440 They raised you two point five million dollars.

01:09:19.200 I deserve it.

01:09:20.420 Every penny.

01:09:20.960 If you could say one thing to the people that donated, what would you tell them?

01:09:28.640 Stand into each other, all human beings, and forget to put everything back behind the back and keep going to save life.

01:09:46.240 Save life.

01:09:47.180 When I do save the people, I do it from the heart.

01:09:56.800 This country, best country in the world.

01:10:00.620 The best country in the world.

01:10:03.560 But we're not going to stand and keep watching.

01:10:10.300 Enough, it's enough.

01:10:12.320 God protect us all.

01:10:13.360 Amazing, amazing.

01:10:18.680 You've got Ahmed Al-Achmed working against these ISIS terrorists to save Jews on a beach and then says, I deserve this. 0.98

01:10:28.840 I said two point five million and reminds us all to stand for life.

01:10:32.380 It's fantastic.

01:10:33.260 And I would just say I would like to see this become a bit more of what the standard is.

01:10:39.160 Not only the standard of action, which is that people run to save their fellow human beings in a situation like this, but also that as societies, we should we should absolutely reward bravery, courage, saving the lives of fellow human beings in a situation like this.

01:10:54.260 I mean, this should be the standard.

01:10:56.340 So I'm happy to see that this guy, you know, certainly has enough money to, I think, retire comfortably in Melbourne or wherever.

01:11:04.360 And he deserves it.

01:11:05.700 And there should be there should be more of this.

01:11:08.240 And it's you know, there's there's a whole lot to talk about with Bondi.

01:11:11.520 We'll talk about that maybe another time.

01:11:13.100 But in the meantime, this was the one bright spot of what was a horrendous day.

01:11:19.200 And this guy deserves every penny.

01:11:21.840 Yeah.

01:11:23.100 Merry Christmas, my friend.

01:11:24.560 Merry Christmas.

01:11:24.980 Happy New Year.

01:11:25.660 Thanks for everything this year.

01:11:26.760 Always.

01:11:27.260 Thank you so much, Megan.

01:11:28.260 See you in the New Year.

01:11:29.760 Yeah.

01:11:30.100 See you then.

01:11:30.740 Buck Sexton, everyone.

01:11:32.400 Before we go, a word on what we're doing here.

01:11:34.960 We are going on vacay with my family.

01:11:37.760 And we have a bunch of good content for you next week, which I think will be new to you if you don't watch all of the MK Media shows.

01:11:47.920 And then the second week, that week from Christmas into New Year's, we have all new content for you.

01:11:54.560 It's our true crime Christmas week, which always does well because nothing says Christmas like true crime.

01:12:01.140 It'll technically be post Christmas, but you get the point.

01:12:03.940 So that'll be all new content Monday through Friday of the second week, and I hope you enjoy it.

01:12:09.280 And I really hope that you enjoy your time with your families, with your loved ones, with your friends, around the Christmas tree, around church on Christmas Eve, which is so magical, and that you get back to what matters, which is not online stuff.

01:12:27.400 Stop focusing on the darkness that's been in the news lately.

01:12:31.160 Basically, just try to spend real time with your loved ones and the things that make you happy and make you you, right?

01:12:39.360 Who makes you you?

01:12:40.700 It starts within you, but it's definitely got massive deposits every day from the people you surround yourself with.

01:12:46.880 So choose well and amplify what's good for you.

01:12:51.040 Minimize what's not.

01:12:52.040 Have some downtime, some quiet time, offline, with a book, with some music, in church.

01:13:00.020 Get back in touch with God if that's for you.

01:13:03.520 And in between now and then, I will see you tonight from the stage in Arizona at Turning Point USA, where I expect to make some news.

01:13:12.260 Before we leave this program, we're going to play for you an interview we did the other day with Peyton McNabb.

01:13:21.000 She was the teenager who was hurt by a boy pretending to be a girl in North Carolina in that volleyball game in a moment that changed the world.

01:13:29.940 It was one of the seminal moments in the fight for girls' and women's rights in sports and in this entire area.

01:13:38.360 And she, for years now, has become the butt of a joke.

01:13:42.560 People think she made it up, made up her injuries.

01:13:46.240 There's been questions about whether the kid who hit her was actually a boy.

01:13:50.080 And she actually has new video that is shocking from this boy pretending to be a girl about the situation that she's never released before, but she's finally ready to do it.

01:14:02.800 That's next.

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01:16:51.460 Hey everyone, it's me, Megan Kelly.

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01:17:21.460 We have quite an update for you now in a story that we first brought to you years ago

01:17:31.300 about a female athlete whose life was turned upside down following a head injury she received

01:17:37.760 after a male competing against her during a high school volleyball game back in 2022

01:17:43.860 spiked the ball in her face so hard she actually suffered a brain injury.

01:17:50.960 Peyton McNabb joined our show back in 2023 to share that story,

01:17:55.320 describing how that injury impacted her everyday life.

01:17:58.700 Well, over the past few years, Peyton, who has continued to speak out to protect women's sports 1.00

01:18:04.120 as an ambassador for the group Independent Women, has gotten abused repeatedly by the hateful left.

01:18:11.860 Everyone from John Oliver to many others, including a comedian who just this month went viral

01:18:19.040 for making fun of Peyton's injury, decided that she was fair game, that she overstated the extent of her injuries,

01:18:26.260 and that the trans athlete, so-called trans athlete, male to female, is really the one we should feel sorry for here.

01:18:34.420 Some have even questioned whether she even got hit in the face by a trans player.

01:18:38.920 Well, today she has, for us, exclusive video of this athlete who is a man pretending to be a woman

01:18:47.720 who injured her years ago while in high school, who shows zero remorse for the pain he caused her.

01:18:56.600 Peyton, welcome back to the show. How are you doing?

01:18:58.880 Hi, Megan. Thank you so much for having me. I'm doing well.

01:19:02.780 Of course. So you were in high school in North Carolina, and just remind the audience what happened.

01:19:08.120 You were what year in high school, and we'll show the video, but tell us what happened.

01:19:13.200 Yeah, so it was my senior year of high school. I went into this game. There was a guy on the other

01:19:18.320 side of the net. I'm trying to be as encouraging and motivating as I can. I've played against him

01:19:22.600 for four years at that point, but it was completely allowed in North Carolina because nothing had

01:19:28.280 happened for them to ban it. So I went to the game, and I get completely knocked out unconscious

01:19:35.180 for about 30 seconds. While the other team laughs, and I'm in a fencing position,

01:19:40.820 the trainer comes up to me, asks me if I know what just happened to me, and I said,

01:19:45.460 yeah, the boy on y'all's team just knocked me out. He rushed me off the court. He did one little

01:19:51.060 finger test on me and said I was good and can go all back into play. Thankfully, I did not go back

01:19:56.740 into play because I ended up going to the doctor and finding out that I had a concussion,

01:20:00.960 a partial brain bleed, and permanent whiplash. Oh, so awful. So this happens to you,

01:20:09.700 and you found the temerity, the guts to speak out about it, and then instead of calling you

01:20:15.760 and apologizing, you told me this the first time you came on with your story, the male,

01:20:21.280 pretending to be a female, who did this to you was very snarky to you behind the scenes.

01:20:26.800 He was, showed absolutely no remorse and said that he's living rent-free in my head,

01:20:33.580 which, you know, my whole life had changed at this point because of him and for him to have

01:20:38.540 no remorse, of course, which is what we see time and time again. I don't expect anything less of him,

01:20:44.380 but for that to happen, you know, I was 17 at the time, and I didn't know what to think,

01:20:49.260 and it was such a different time for me and how far I've come in the past few years. Even from the

01:20:54.580 first time I spoke to you about this, I've grown so much, and I know exactly what I'm saying, and

01:20:59.740 I'm confident in what I'm saying because I know that I'm right, and the other side, you know,

01:21:04.960 as much as they want to tear women like me down and silence us, we're just never going to because

01:21:09.860 this fight is worth way more than that, and I've known that from the beginning.

01:21:14.820 There's a reason this happened to you because you seem so earnest to me. Like, I've, of course,

01:21:23.360 believe you 100%, but like, you also, I think, are a very effective messenger because you do seem

01:21:29.300 just like a regular person. You know, you don't have like an extra level of media polish. You just

01:21:35.620 seem normal and like a normal girl to whom this happened who found the guts to say something about

01:21:41.560 it. While this guy was remorseless, you say behind the scenes, and now you contacted me privately to

01:21:48.400 tell me that you had, but no one else had seen, two videos of this guy talking about you and himself.

01:21:58.080 These videos show how sorry he is for himself and the disdain for you, still remorseless. Now,

01:22:06.220 when were these made? I'm going to show the audience both of them, but when were they made?

01:22:09.800 They were made shortly after all of this happened, probably like a month or two, maybe. He posted

01:22:16.520 them on TikTok, which we got right off of there, and then he shortly after deleted them, and I've

01:22:22.800 been holding on to these because, you know, no one believes me. They say that I'm lying or that it was

01:22:28.900 actually a girl or whatever and that there's no proof that what I'm saying is even true, and I've felt

01:22:35.360 no need to explain myself or to prove myself because I know what happened and everyone else

01:22:41.860 knows what happened, but to the public, I'm lying and I'm covering it up. So I just thought I wasn't

01:22:48.280 planning on sharing these, but if they don't believe me, maybe they'll believe him saying it himself.

01:22:53.220 Let's watch. Okay, we're going to play the first one here where this is him lamenting what's

01:23:00.160 happened to him in his senior year as a result of all this.

01:23:04.920 Senior year recap.

01:23:07.940 If you want to have a senior year just like me, follow these steps.

01:23:13.880 One, endure the hell that is school volleyball. 0.88

01:23:16.020 Two, hit a girl in the face and make national news getting national hate.

01:23:23.060 I was on Fox News twice.

01:23:26.040 Number three, find out that your athletic director and your coach have been outing you to every

01:23:31.640 school you've played since freshman year against your will.

01:23:37.160 Number four, get kicked off your old club volleyball team that you've been playing on for seven years,

01:23:42.840 Total Drama Island style. I got voted off by the parents.

01:23:48.300 Number five, try out for the only other good club team near you and you get cut because of the 1.00

01:23:54.400 national news that you're a faggot. 1.00

01:23:56.700 Number six, contemplate quitting volleyball. 1.00

01:24:01.560 Number seven, don't quit volleyball.

01:24:04.760 Number eight, commit to the Kennesaw State on a full scholarship. 0.84

01:24:08.720 Number nine, get your scholarship taken away because you told the coach that you're a tranny.

01:24:19.680 He, like, level of what appears to be some sort of mental break there is alarming.

01:24:26.800 This person has made himself the entire victim.

01:24:30.100 There's a, you lost your scholarship because it's for girls. 0.97

01:24:32.920 That's a scholarship for a girl, which you're not. 0.99

01:24:35.960 But, and, and he's lamenting that the coaches told opposing players he was on the team that

01:24:42.700 these players were going to have to face.

01:24:44.680 Meanwhile, it's a, it's a question of safety.

01:24:47.640 And he's talking about like what he lost academic or athletically after he injured you.

01:24:52.120 Why do you think that is?

01:24:53.360 You think like parents have a right to know girls have a right to know this is like, he's,

01:24:59.000 he's trying to make himself look all feminine in that clip.

01:25:01.300 But this is a, isn't he very tall and obviously very strong.

01:25:06.600 Yeah, exactly.

01:25:07.460 And for him to turn this around and he's, he's the only victim in all of this.

01:25:11.880 I mean, my senior year was completely ruined too.

01:25:14.960 I couldn't drive for several months.

01:25:17.220 I never played volleyball again.

01:25:19.260 And for him to be the victim.

01:25:21.380 And of course, of course it is.

01:25:23.280 Cause that's what we see over and over again.

01:25:25.080 And he's upset because he can't get girls opportunities anymore.

01:25:29.400 Like that's, that's what happens when a guy's on a girl's team. 0.99

01:25:33.440 And I don't, I hate to break that to him, but that's just the way it is.

01:25:36.360 And you had to get a reality check somehow.

01:25:38.760 And if you wouldn't have completely altered my life, then you probably still would have

01:25:43.340 had that scholarship, which is unfortunate for me, but all things work out and happen

01:25:48.900 for a reason.

01:25:49.480 And I truly do believe that it did happen to me for a reason because I continue to say

01:25:54.640 something about it and I'm not going to stop.

01:25:56.980 And because he shames me on, um, on TikTok and publicly as much as he can, I really don't

01:26:03.540 care.

01:26:04.100 And I, you know, I'm sad that I feel bad for him because he's, he's lost and there's

01:26:08.560 something wrong and I pray for him, but ultimately he's not the victim here.

01:26:14.380 I was.

01:26:15.120 And every single girl on that court was the victim that day. 0.97

01:26:17.540 And here's a newsflash.

01:26:20.620 You're not a woman, sir. 0.98

01:26:22.120 And you never will be.

01:26:23.340 It doesn't matter how much makeup you do, how much you inflate your lips, what you do

01:26:28.000 to your hair.

01:26:28.660 You are male and you will stay male no matter what hormones you inject, what surgeries you 0.53

01:26:34.600 have, or how much you try to act when you get in front of a camera.

01:26:38.440 You're a boy.

01:26:39.440 You're a man.

01:26:40.480 That's what you should deal with.

01:26:42.040 That's reality.

01:26:42.940 Here's the second clip equally infuriating.

01:26:47.180 And he addresses you directly.

01:26:49.960 Watch.

01:26:50.840 Number 29, the girl you hit in the face goes to North Carolina general assembly and speaks

01:26:55.440 about her experience trying to get anti-trans legislation passed.

01:27:02.360 And the whole situation of you hitting her in the face is brought back to life.

01:27:07.420 Great.

01:27:07.860 That's that is exactly what I needed in my senior year.

01:27:10.640 Thank you, Peyton.

01:27:13.900 So no question there he is on camera admitting he was the one who hit you in the face.

01:27:19.620 No denial and blaming you for testifying about it when asked on the should we ban boys from

01:27:27.200 girls sports bill.

01:27:28.300 Yeah, like, like, thank you for completely altering and ruining my life at the time was

01:27:35.740 what I thought.

01:27:37.560 You know, I, I, it's not my fault that you got your stuff taken away.

01:27:41.440 That's, that's what you, that's, you know, what comes with pretending to be a girl and 0.98

01:27:46.700 invading a girl's face.

01:27:48.040 And they're fraud.

01:27:48.980 So like action, like consequence, actions have consequences.

01:27:52.280 And I hate that, like, he had the reality check so early, but that's just the way it is.

01:27:57.320 And it's not my fault that your senior year got ruined.

01:28:00.080 That's your fault for pretending and staying in this lie.

01:28:03.380 And everyone else around you who continued to lie to you instead of telling you the truth.

01:28:08.660 And, you know, that's not love to me.

01:28:10.960 Loving isn't lying.

01:28:12.760 And I feel bad for him that he didn't have people that were willing to tell him what the

01:28:18.120 truth was early on.

01:28:21.000 He's got a lot of anger in him.

01:28:22.600 I mean, I would stay away if I were you, this is, this, this person seems somewhat

01:28:26.560 unhinged to me.

01:28:28.060 Um, but he's not the only one.

01:28:29.940 Like when John Oliver did that hit piece on you, Peyton, I almost fell out of my chair.

01:28:35.160 It was so unfair.

01:28:36.960 And John Oliver has an executive producer who's trans male to female.

01:28:42.600 And so everything John Oliver says is out of this world off, off the rails, just completely 0.99

01:28:50.860 unhinged in favor of trannies. 1.00

01:28:52.780 That's who's running his programming. 0.97

01:28:54.840 That's what explains all of his commentary. 0.99

01:28:56.400 He does not give a shit about young girls or women who are getting hurt. 0.98

01:29:00.380 He couldn't care less to the point where he actually came for you in a monologue he did 0.99

01:29:06.080 in April of 2025, which we got into at length at the time.

01:29:10.220 But here's the piece that touches on you and your injury, SOT39.

01:29:14.660 The most famous example concerns Peyton McNabb, a three-sport high school athlete who was

01:29:18.900 hit in the face by a spike during a volleyball match.

01:29:21.500 She suffered injuries, including a concussion, and started speaking out against the policies

01:29:25.400 that allowed the trans player who spiked the ball to play. 0.55

01:29:28.340 A concussion is genuinely traumatic, though for what it's worth, she did go on to play softball

01:29:33.020 in the spring and did pretty well, judging by her school, posting this image about her

01:29:36.820 making the all-conference team, and a local paper pointing out she helped her team to

01:29:40.660 a 5-0 start.

01:29:41.860 And I'm not saying she wasn't injured, or that it didn't have some impact on her performance,

01:29:46.500 but a lot of the groups heavily pushing this story seem to be overselling it.

01:29:53.080 Hmm.

01:29:54.200 Thoughts on that?

01:29:55.600 I mean, a grown man who is talking down on, I was 17 at the time when this happened to

01:30:00.600 me, and I'm trying to live a normal life the best I can.

01:30:04.600 I'm very thankful and blessed to have come from the community that I came from, who my

01:30:09.180 whole team, all the teams that I played, my officials, coaches, everyone knew what was

01:30:13.980 going on with me, and they were very, very considerate on, you know, if something happened

01:30:18.540 to me, the whole game is stopping to see if I'm okay.

01:30:21.300 And that was a really dark time for me and my family and my community as a whole, and something

01:30:26.980 that I would never wish on anyone for them to go through.

01:30:29.840 And this grown man is getting on here and making, like, making fun and light of my situation.

01:30:35.460 I would never, I could never imagine my dad getting on online and on his show and saying

01:30:41.840 that about a 17-year-old girl's injury.

01:30:44.380 Like, I genuinely can't think of that. 1.00

01:30:46.640 And he is so deranged, and it's just so stupid to watch that. 0.98

01:30:50.780 I didn't even, I couldn't even watch that whole thing, because when this all aired, I 0.99

01:30:54.900 was also, it was kind of rough, because I had just gotten back from the State of the

01:31:00.120 Union, and I was getting attacked.

01:31:02.620 Like, I had gotten attacked earlier on, but it had kind of, you know how it comes in waves,

01:31:06.880 and people don't really see anything for a little while, but I was getting really beat

01:31:10.900 down.

01:31:11.360 I was having to stay with my sisters because, in a different state, because people were

01:31:15.720 trying to find out where I lived.

01:31:17.260 And then this just added more flames to the fire, and I was mean, and I'm like, like,

01:31:24.860 I did not know how to do, what to do.

01:31:27.460 And for him to, like, be taking joy, like, there's joy on his face for talking about me

01:31:32.520 that way.

01:31:33.160 Like, what is wrong with you?

01:31:34.640 I would never, I could never imagine. 1.00

01:31:37.100 Disgusting. 0.99

01:31:38.460 What is wrong with him? 0.99

01:31:39.820 Something seriously and deep is wrong with John Oliver.

01:31:43.660 He's being programmed by his tranny producer, who's calling the shots over there, and he's 1.00

01:31:48.320 too much of a weak P-word to stand up to this person and shares the ideology.

01:31:54.140 He'd love to see my daughter and everyone else's daughter get the same injury you had and worse, 0.90

01:31:59.980 just as long as he feels good about what he's done for the trans community, the ones who are

01:32:04.960 hurting our girls.

01:32:05.680 You mentioned the State of the Union.

01:32:08.060 Here, that was a crazy moment where Trump mentioned you, this is March of 2025, and the Democrats

01:32:16.280 refused to stand.

01:32:18.340 What?

01:32:18.700 They're against young girls who get hurt by male players standing up for themselves.

01:32:25.400 Here's what happened.

01:32:26.160 Three years ago, Peyton McNabb was an all-star high school athlete, one of the best, preparing

01:32:32.480 for a future in college sports, but when her girls' volleyball match was invaded by a

01:32:38.640 male, he smashed the ball so hard in Peyton's face, causing traumatic brain injury, partially

01:32:46.400 paralyzing her right side, and ending her athletic career.

01:32:51.320 It was a shot like she's never seen before.

01:32:55.460 She's never seen anything like it.

01:32:56.960 Peyton is here tonight in the gallery, and Peyton, from now on, schools will kick the

01:33:03.220 men off the girls' team, or they will lose all federal funding.

01:33:15.560 It's such a play.

01:33:16.800 Like, everything's so fake, and for all of them to be wearing their pink suits and trying

01:33:22.120 to signal to everyone that they're the party for the women, and then they refuse to even 1.00

01:33:26.840 look at me when I'm getting mentioned for having a brain injury because of a guy in spandex.

01:33:31.700 Like, how can you even claim to be the party of women, and then you do that? 0.94

01:33:37.560 Like, actions speak way louder than what you're wearing, and you prove it time and time again

01:33:42.720 that you're not for women.

01:33:44.260 And, like, we've begged and pleaded for you to be on our side, and there's women all over 0.96

01:33:49.460 the country who are begging for this.

01:33:51.060 Like, everyone's tired of it.

01:33:52.360 The American people are tired of it, which has also been brought up in multiple, multiple

01:33:57.340 cases because it keeps happening.

01:33:59.580 And you can't even look at me when I'm getting recognized.

01:34:03.080 And, like, how sad is that? 0.70

01:34:04.740 You have to be so sad and deranged.

01:34:06.900 But I can't even be—like, I'm not surprised about it.

01:34:09.260 I wasn't surprised about it at the time either because, I mean, they've proven themselves

01:34:14.020 over and over again.

01:34:15.940 But they didn't even just stand—

01:34:17.240 You're too threatening.

01:34:17.940 Exactly.

01:34:18.760 Like, they're not going to stand for me.

01:34:20.840 They didn't even stand for Lake and Raleigh's family when they got recognized.

01:34:24.740 And, like, what is wrong with you?

01:34:26.320 There is something evil and, like, mentally just deranged about them, and they hide behind

01:34:34.580 the colors that they're wearing.

01:34:35.680 Like, that just makes no sense to me, and it infuriated me.

01:34:39.420 It's amazing how the bullying continues.

01:34:41.440 Like, you got bullied by this trans player.

01:34:43.240 You've been bullied by some of the biggest names in media.

01:34:47.380 And now you get bullied by half of the Democrats or more than half of the Democrats at the State

01:34:52.860 of the Union.

01:34:53.400 And it goes on.

01:34:54.720 So this happened back in 2022.

01:34:57.260 Here we are in 2025, almost 2026.

01:34:59.880 I mentioned this in the intro, but here's this so-called comedian, Stacey Kay, who is also

01:35:07.180 a trans person, right?

01:35:08.680 I'm told that this person is also trans.

01:35:12.000 And this is what Stacey Kay said about you just, like, a few weeks ago.

01:35:17.180 And it just, it was filmed in September, but it went viral in December at the Denver Comedy

01:35:23.860 Underground here.

01:35:25.960 The whole argument is she suffered catastrophic brain damage, right?

01:35:30.160 That she'll never recover from.

01:35:32.000 She'll never be able to have a normal life.

01:35:34.040 And this is with her in the room.

01:35:35.400 They're just, they're like, look how slow she is. 1.00

01:35:40.200 She'll never be able to drive.

01:35:42.240 And they don't, they don't ever want to show the clip of what happened because it's pretty

01:35:47.720 funny, actually.

01:35:50.820 It's a seven second clip.

01:35:53.480 And it's a girl, it's a trans girl, presumably, I'm told, goes up to do a spike.

01:35:58.740 And I can't tell she's trans. 0.99

01:35:59.820 Her form is perfect.

01:36:00.600 She looks good at sports, right?

01:36:02.520 And then there's Peyton sitting back like, I don't know, six feet from the net, flat

01:36:07.440 footed with her hands down like this. 0.84

01:36:10.120 And then she just gets hit right in the head.

01:36:12.780 And falls over like a toddler.

01:36:16.360 And I'm like, oh, she was really like this before.

01:36:22.420 I don't know if there's a nice way to say this, but she should have been wearing a helmet. 1.00

01:36:27.240 She should have been out there with the normal people.

01:36:33.040 That guy wants to make a pronouncement on normal, on what's normal and what's not.

01:36:40.080 Take off your dress, sir.

01:36:41.880 Put your pants back on and stop trying to co-opt our identity. 0.56

01:36:45.940 That dress does not make you a woman. 1.00

01:36:47.960 Nothing ever will.

01:36:49.420 See, point earlier in response to the trans player who hurt.

01:36:52.940 Peyton, unbelievable.

01:36:54.840 What did you think when you saw that?

01:36:56.940 Well, I mean, how desperate for laughs do you have to be for a grown dude in a dress to

01:37:02.200 be making fun of a girl who was 17 at the time who literally suffered a permanent brain

01:37:06.620 injury?

01:37:07.580 Like, how sad is that, first of all?

01:37:10.160 But this is all deeply rooted from a hatred of women, which is the common theme here.

01:37:15.280 You know, like, I have things that he'll never have.

01:37:18.380 One, I'm actually naturally hilarious.

01:37:20.760 But two, I'm an actual woman.

01:37:22.900 And he will never, ever be able to have that.

01:37:26.240 He never will.

01:37:27.260 It does not matter how many push-up bras you wear, how many dresses you wear.

01:37:31.380 It's not going to happen.

01:37:32.940 And there's literally nothing you can do to make it happen.

01:37:35.720 And I was also thinking, like, the people laughing behind the scenes, that was what was kind

01:37:40.280 of upsetting to me at first.

01:37:41.560 Because I'm like, first of all, who's bored enough to even go to a show like this?

01:37:45.160 Like, I can genuinely never think of a time where I would have nothing better to do than

01:37:49.120 to go to one of these shows.

01:37:50.520 But then to actually be laughing at a joke like this, at first, I was convinced it was

01:37:54.900 a laughing track because I'm like, it wasn't even funny.

01:37:57.980 I'm all about a good joke and making light of a situation.

01:38:00.520 And I'm not soft by all means on making fun or a lot of stuff.

01:38:04.560 But that's when it's actually funny.

01:38:06.480 And there was no punchline.

01:38:08.380 Like, they're genuinely, it wasn't even a joke.

01:38:10.560 It was just him making fun of a girl who was 17 who got injured by a dude in spandex.

01:38:18.040 And now a dude in a dress is laughing about it.

01:38:20.320 Like, make that make sense.

01:38:21.940 It sounds like a parody, but that was real life.

01:38:24.240 And that's who's coming after me for telling the simple truth that you will never be a woman. 1.00

01:38:29.100 You will never be like me, who is an actual woman.

01:38:32.780 And that's what you hate.

01:38:34.240 So that's what you're attacking.

01:38:35.480 And that's sad for you, but there's nothing anyone can do about that, including you.

01:38:40.560 And they want it all.

01:38:41.660 They want to have a monthly cycle.

01:38:43.920 It's a no.

01:38:44.980 They want to get pregnant and have a baby. 0.95

01:38:47.180 You can't.

01:38:48.100 No.

01:38:48.200 They want to nurse the baby.

01:38:49.700 Also a no. 0.82

01:38:51.180 They want all the things that women come by, thanks to God, that will never be available to them. 1.00

01:38:56.440 They want the softness of our skin.

01:38:57.920 They want the luxiness of our hair.

01:38:59.680 They want the beautiful scents that come with a woman's body. 0.99

01:39:02.900 It's all a no.

01:39:04.000 You're a man.

01:39:04.840 You're going to be a hairy, large person with shoulders and hips and legs that we would never have.

01:39:11.340 And you will never have a baby.

01:39:12.660 You will never be able to do the miracles that God allowed us to do.

01:39:15.900 Deal with that.

01:39:17.360 Get off the stage.

01:39:18.840 Take off the dress and deal with that instead of attacking a teenager for her brain injury. 1.00

01:39:26.080 You sick MF-er. 1.00

01:39:28.440 Okay. 0.97

01:39:28.800 I still have the last word on that, but I do want to get you to say quickly before we go,

01:39:33.240 are we feeling good about what's happening with Olympic sports now and the trend?

01:39:39.600 We're not there yet, but the trend we're seeing on this issue in America.

01:39:43.980 I think so.

01:39:44.940 I think more people are willing to stand up and say what they actually feel and what they actually think.

01:39:50.620 And there was a time where no one could say what we were saying or they would get canceled or fired or whatever.

01:39:56.540 And I think it's gotten to the point where parents and dads and just everyone in general is just sick and tired of it

01:40:03.200 because it's been going on for way too long.

01:40:05.220 And the Olympics, the IOC actually making light, I mean, they said because of scientific studies that men have more biological strength than women.

01:40:15.640 Like, obviously.

01:40:16.740 That's what we've been saying for years.

01:40:18.260 So it's not rocket science that they just came up with.

01:40:21.060 Like, obviously.

01:40:22.680 But at least they're saying it.

01:40:24.600 I would love for them to give back the medals that the men took last year because, like, what are you doing?

01:40:32.720 Why was a man allowed to be able to be in a ring and punch a girl in the face and then get a gold medal for it? 0.88

01:40:38.080 Like, that is so sick.

01:40:40.000 But at least things are finally turning.

01:40:42.900 More and more people are willing to stand up and say something about it, which obviously wasn't happening very much before.

01:40:49.840 So I'm thankful to see the tide turning.

01:40:52.180 And I really do have high hopes for it as long as more people are, you know, waking up to the fact that this could happen to anyone.

01:40:59.260 This happened to me in the middle of rural North Carolina, and that's what woke me up.

01:41:03.540 I'm like, we shouldn't have waited until it happened to me to say something.

01:41:07.120 But the fact that it's happening here, it's happening everywhere because that's not something that we ever saw.

01:41:11.900 So I don't want this ever to be a possibility for my younger sister, who I'm doing this all for.

01:41:17.560 And if I get blessed enough to have a daughter one day, like, she should never even think it's a possibility for a man to be on the other side of the net because there was a time in my life where I thought that, too.

01:41:27.300 Like, I didn't think that would ever be allowed and that my parents or the parents, all the parents in there wouldn't allow that to happen.

01:41:33.420 But the fact that actually happened and it was celebrated and it's still happening in some places, in some states, and it's just so crazy.

01:41:42.280 But I really do think that we're going in a good direction and more and more people are saying enough is enough because it's just everyone has a woman in their life. 1.00

01:41:51.080 And whether they want to admit it or not, like, it's happening in every way.

01:41:55.160 Well, thanks to you, you and others like you who have found your voice and used it.

01:42:01.980 Peyton, all the best.

01:42:02.860 Thank you so much for being here.

01:42:04.020 Thank you.

01:42:04.560 And thank you for telling my story from the beginning.

01:42:07.800 Like, I've never really had the opportunity to thank you for that.

01:42:10.200 So thank you so much.

01:42:11.920 Oh, it's my honor.

01:42:14.400 I'm sorry that it happened to you, but I'm super glad with what you've done with it.

01:42:18.320 Thank you.

01:42:18.780 You're a heroine.

01:42:19.720 Peyton McNabb, everybody.

01:42:20.860 See you soon.

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