The Megyn Kelly Show - December 09, 2020


Rep. Dan Crenshaw on Election Challenges, Twitter Fights and Victimhood | Ep. 35


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Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-Texans) joins me to talk about his rise in the Republican Party, why he thinks AOC is a crook, and why Donald Trump should lose the 2020 election. Plus, why you should be worried about being a victim of title theft.

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00:00:30.620 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:00:32.540 Your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.
00:00:41.520 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.
00:00:43.180 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:00:44.620 Today on the program, we've got Dan Crenshaw,
00:00:48.040 congressman from Houston, Texas,
00:00:51.340 who is a rising star in the Republican Party.
00:00:54.840 How long does somebody have to be a rising star
00:00:56.740 before you can just call them a star?
00:00:58.260 I think he's there.
00:00:59.100 He's a star in the Republican Party.
00:01:01.800 Some have referred to him as the future of the GOP.
00:01:05.920 He is a Navy SEAL who served our country honorably
00:01:10.060 with five tours of duty,
00:01:12.120 including Purple Hearts and all sorts of awards
00:01:15.700 to recognize the service and sacrifice he made over there.
00:01:19.500 He is a sixth generation Texan.
00:01:22.100 A sixth, I say.
00:01:23.160 And that's why he makes sense, as most people from Texas do.
00:01:28.120 Not all, but most.
00:01:29.700 That's been my experience.
00:01:31.240 Midwesterners, Texans, people like me from upstate New York,
00:01:34.280 tend to make sense.
00:01:35.420 That's been my impression.
00:01:36.760 Democrat or Republican, for that matter.
00:01:38.260 So we will get to Dan Crenshaw in a moment,
00:01:40.780 and I will ask him about some of his wars with, among others, AOC.
00:01:46.320 She likes to sort of try to pick at him, 0.93
00:01:49.020 and then he's kind of always smacking her down
00:01:51.880 and not letting her play the victim,
00:01:53.900 and it's kind of fun to watch.
00:01:55.260 So we'll talk about that,
00:01:56.580 how Trump's doing,
00:01:57.500 his latest electoral challenge that Trump just filed,
00:02:00.880 what does Dan think about it,
00:02:02.140 and all the rest of it.
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00:03:16.420 And now, Representative Dan Crenshaw.
00:03:21.200 Thank you so much for being here.
00:03:22.980 Hey, thanks for having me, Megan.
00:03:24.060 All right, let's start with who's going to be the next president,
00:03:26.640 because Trump is still saying it's him.
00:03:30.140 And I've been skeptical of his legal filings thus far.
00:03:35.260 And, you know, open minded, but skeptical,
00:03:37.120 having read most of them,
00:03:39.420 but not all the exhibits and so on.
00:03:41.300 But I will tell you, he has just filed something in Georgia
00:03:44.660 that I actually think is pretty decent,
00:03:47.260 but also pretty late in the game.
00:03:49.520 So I just want to get the listeners up to speed.
00:03:51.580 This is alleging not the massive Sidney Powell,
00:03:54.740 Linwood voter fraud with these Dominion voter machines.
00:03:58.160 It's talking about smaller ball issues that they say resulted in
00:04:02.540 all sorts of tens of thousands of ballots being messed with
00:04:07.180 and ineligible for the count.
00:04:09.960 And the one I want to zero in on with you is
00:04:11.860 they're angry in Georgia about the signatures
00:04:15.040 not being compared.
00:04:17.560 The signature that you fill out when you register to vote
00:04:20.740 is supposed to be compared to the signature
00:04:23.120 on your absentee ballot application
00:04:25.520 and your absentee ballot envelope.
00:04:28.520 The vote itself doesn't have your signature,
00:04:30.840 your name, because it's anonymous.
00:04:32.060 It's secret.
00:04:33.040 But anyway, the Trump camp says
00:04:34.180 there needed to be a very careful comparison
00:04:37.140 of the signatures on the registration files
00:04:39.540 versus those in the ballot applications,
00:04:41.240 the ballot envelopes.
00:04:42.120 You didn't do it and we should have had an audit,
00:04:45.300 but they didn't order it and that was wrong.
00:04:49.880 And now we need to have the vote essentially thrown out.
00:04:53.360 They want to redo.
00:04:54.360 And let me just tell you exactly what they're alleging.
00:04:56.780 Now, if its figures are correct,
00:04:58.600 and I don't know if the complaints figures are correct,
00:05:00.360 but if the figures cited therein are correct,
00:05:02.500 this is what they're saying.
00:05:04.100 And by the way, kudos to Andy McCarthy of National Review
00:05:07.180 for helping me understand this
00:05:09.060 in a great piece posted there.
00:05:11.200 In 2016, Georgia disallowed,
00:05:14.680 I'm just going to round, 6,000 ballots
00:05:17.160 because the signatures didn't match up,
00:05:19.220 which is 2.9% of all ballots.
00:05:21.540 In 2018, they disallowed, call it 7,900 ballots,
00:05:26.280 which is 3.46% of all ballots.
00:05:28.720 You know, they found some funny business in the signatures.
00:05:30.880 In 2020, Georgia disallowed 4,471 ballots,
00:05:36.600 which is 0.34% of all ballots received.
00:05:41.240 In other words, the number of mail-in ballots,
00:05:43.700 which is 1.3 million,
00:05:45.180 was five times in 2020 what it was in 2016
00:05:48.900 and four times what it was in 2018.
00:05:51.380 And yet the number of ballots disallowed fell.
00:05:54.900 It was below what they disallowed in 16 and 18.
00:05:57.800 And what the Trump campaign is alleging
00:05:59.340 is they phoned it in.
00:06:02.700 They didn't do what they needed to do
00:06:04.200 to make sure that the ballots lined up
00:06:06.840 and that somebody wasn't sending in a vote
00:06:09.440 that shouldn't have been cast.
00:06:11.720 And that if you just were to apply
00:06:14.780 the same rejection rates that were in 16 or 18,
00:06:18.840 it would disqualify between 38,000 and 45,000 ballots.
00:06:23.020 And even, Andy points out,
00:06:24.220 even if you assume a rejection rate of just 2%, right?
00:06:26.940 Not 0.034 like we've had this year.
00:06:29.600 That would amount to just,
00:06:31.060 that would amount to 26,000 ballots
00:06:33.080 that would have been rejected.
00:06:34.580 Now, Biden won absentee ballots by a two-to-one rate.
00:06:36.820 So now we're down to,
00:06:37.780 now we're talking brass tacks
00:06:38.840 because he only won the state by less,
00:06:40.520 just under 12,000.
00:06:41.920 So this, on the basis of all this,
00:06:44.320 Trump is asking the court
00:06:45.800 to prevent certification of the vote,
00:06:47.500 even though it's been done.
00:06:48.300 They want the court to enjoin the state
00:06:50.660 from appointing electors to the electoral college.
00:06:55.600 And they're basically saying,
00:06:57.260 order a new presidential election,
00:06:58.660 which they know cannot be done.
00:07:00.120 That can't be done prior to a week from today,
00:07:02.500 which really means disenfranchisement
00:07:04.600 is the only option.
00:07:06.280 And this is essentially a plea
00:07:07.420 to have electors chosen in a different way.
00:07:10.440 They want the state legislature, essentially,
00:07:13.160 to decide something other
00:07:15.000 than what the voters of Georgia,
00:07:17.060 you know, believe they decided.
00:07:20.540 So that's the latest coming out of Georgia.
00:07:23.740 I think it's the best challenge they filed yet,
00:07:25.620 if they can prove it.
00:07:27.240 But they're kind of out of time.
00:07:28.940 So you've been taking a look
00:07:30.000 at some of this stuff down in Georgia,
00:07:31.280 some of these claims.
00:07:32.340 What's your reaction to that?
00:07:33.340 Yeah.
00:07:34.320 You know, when I was down there,
00:07:35.480 this was what everybody was talking about.
00:07:38.180 Audit the signatures.
00:07:39.560 Audit the signatures.
00:07:41.060 But the other frustration
00:07:42.640 that everyone had down there was,
00:07:44.160 why didn't they do this earlier?
00:07:46.040 Because it is a task that could be done.
00:07:50.700 But it's obviously much more difficult to do it
00:07:53.080 the later and later you wait.
00:07:55.340 It starts to appear almost frivolous,
00:07:58.600 even though it's serious.
00:08:02.020 And then they're asking for the fix
00:08:03.580 to be to just throw out the votes.
00:08:05.060 I think that'll be a hard sell,
00:08:06.940 a hard sell,
00:08:08.160 that the fix should be an actual audit.
00:08:10.960 And, you know, again,
00:08:12.600 I don't see why not.
00:08:13.660 I've always said that
00:08:15.240 when so many people don't believe
00:08:17.060 the outcome of an election,
00:08:18.640 it doesn't matter whether
00:08:20.420 their reasoning is grounded in reality or not.
00:08:23.900 They just don't believe it.
00:08:25.140 And that's really harmful to a democracy.
00:08:27.360 And I don't think we should treat them poorly
00:08:30.940 when they just want to be proven.
00:08:32.680 They want their election proven to them.
00:08:34.660 Why not help them with that?
00:08:36.220 Why not actually do that?
00:08:37.540 Why not audit it?
00:08:39.020 But also, why not have brought that up weeks ago?
00:08:42.080 We wasted so much time
00:08:43.760 in so many of these court cases.
00:08:48.400 And why that is, I don't really know.
00:08:51.080 Yeah, they're arguing about that now
00:08:52.340 because the head of the Georgia GOP,
00:08:54.200 this guy, David Schaefer,
00:08:55.160 he's the one who filed a lawsuit along with Trump.
00:08:57.700 He says that the Secretary of State,
00:08:59.860 Raffensperger, broke his promise
00:09:01.220 to issue a bulletin
00:09:02.600 allowing the Georgia Republicans
00:09:04.660 to observe absentee ballot signature verification.
00:09:08.800 And Raffensperger responded,
00:09:11.280 the signature verification process was public
00:09:13.400 and you could have observed it any time.
00:09:15.680 You didn't have your act together
00:09:16.960 and you missed it.
00:09:18.260 It's not my fault.
00:09:19.040 There's been a lot of back and forth like that
00:09:21.520 where the Secretary of State has said,
00:09:24.680 look, we've made mass improvements
00:09:26.180 on how to verify these signatures.
00:09:28.080 That's why we don't want to do an audit.
00:09:29.700 Look, I removed myself from the details of that.
00:09:32.060 I'm not following it closely enough
00:09:33.500 to really know what the truth is.
00:09:35.420 But the truth needs to get out.
00:09:37.720 I would say something about the rejection rates
00:09:39.580 that keep getting mentioned.
00:09:41.540 A far smaller rejection rate now than before.
00:09:44.800 Yeah, I'd like to see an explanation for that.
00:09:46.480 Maybe there is.
00:09:48.280 Maybe the actual process got tightened up
00:09:51.580 over the last couple of years.
00:09:52.620 I don't know.
00:09:53.220 I want to hear an explanation for that.
00:09:54.820 Perhaps there is one.
00:09:56.140 But I want to make a broader point.
00:09:58.200 And it is this.
00:09:59.420 The fact that there even is a rejection rate
00:10:01.860 should terrify us.
00:10:02.960 This is why when we take a 30,000 foot view
00:10:06.180 on what to do about our elections
00:10:07.880 and the integrity of our elections,
00:10:10.400 we have to severely limit mail-in ballots.
00:10:13.400 We just have to.
00:10:14.200 So they should be designated for people 0.60
00:10:17.060 who cannot be there to vote in person.
00:10:20.360 Military members being an obvious example.
00:10:23.040 Or you're too old to make it to the polls
00:10:25.760 or too disabled to make it to the polls.
00:10:27.540 There has to be some exceptions, I think.
00:10:29.980 But for the most part,
00:10:31.940 as Bill Barr said months ago,
00:10:34.740 we were playing with fire
00:10:35.920 by massively expanding our mail-in ballot system.
00:10:38.960 The fact that there is any rejection rate
00:10:41.040 should give us pause.
00:10:42.120 There's only one of two reasons
00:10:43.420 that there can be a rejection rate, okay?
00:10:45.300 The election official sees that signatures don't match,
00:10:49.480 but it really is a valid ballot,
00:10:51.460 a valid person, a legal person,
00:10:53.220 and they still reject the ballot
00:10:54.440 because that person screwed up their own signature
00:10:57.020 or filled it out wrong.
00:10:58.140 So you just rejected a real person trying to vote
00:11:00.860 who was a citizen and lives in that state.
00:11:03.060 And the second reason,
00:11:04.360 the election official did the right thing
00:11:05.780 because those signatures don't match, let's say.
00:11:08.200 And that person was trying to commit fraud.
00:11:11.040 So you have two possible reasons
00:11:15.340 why a ballot is rejected.
00:11:17.040 Why would we even want to risk this?
00:11:19.400 Why do we even accept a system
00:11:21.040 where any percentage of ballots are so often rejected?
00:11:25.180 This is a problem, especially in such tight races
00:11:27.680 when in many of these swing states
00:11:29.860 we're deciding elections by such few votes.
00:11:35.340 I just can't believe that we even want this system.
00:11:38.000 So we do have to take a step back and think to ourselves,
00:11:40.040 how do we want to have our elections go moving forward?
00:11:44.280 And how do we want to make sure
00:11:45.400 that we don't even have these discussions
00:11:47.960 about what could have happened?
00:11:49.760 The thing is when a process is so loose
00:11:52.200 and so unverifiable like a lot of these processes are,
00:11:55.780 it becomes pretty easy to make allegations
00:11:57.660 that could be true and create chaos effectively.
00:12:01.960 And that's not the people's fault for questioning it.
00:12:04.860 That's not their fault.
00:12:05.800 See, that's where the left gets this one wrong. 1.00
00:12:07.820 They say, oh, just sit down and shut up. 0.98
00:12:09.400 There's nothing to see here.
00:12:10.860 Well, I'm sorry, but if the process is so loose,
00:12:13.360 that's the actual problem.
00:12:15.160 That's the problem.
00:12:16.020 And you got to have an airtight process.
00:12:18.120 Well, and people don't trust them
00:12:19.240 because they've made clear,
00:12:20.420 not only did they want Trump to lose, 0.72
00:12:22.380 they hate him, hate.
00:12:25.320 And they spent four years
00:12:26.460 trying to take him out in other ways.
00:12:28.500 So I think there's a healthy dose of distrust
00:12:31.720 on the Republican side
00:12:32.860 when it comes to these claims
00:12:34.440 that we would never,
00:12:35.640 and I realize that Georgia's run by Republicans.
00:12:37.640 You know, this is a Republican secretary of state
00:12:39.220 and a Republican governor,
00:12:40.320 but that doesn't mean that everyone touching ballots
00:12:43.220 was a Republican.
00:12:44.460 They weren't.
00:12:45.600 And that's why, you know,
00:12:46.680 even the governor said
00:12:47.560 we should have an audit of the signature matches.
00:12:51.120 And the secretary of state is saying no.
00:12:54.620 So it's kind of getting a little civil worry
00:12:56.400 inside the Republican party.
00:12:58.780 And I want to ask you about that piece of it
00:13:00.640 because I saw you swept up in that just a little
00:13:03.300 because Lin Wood and Sidney Powell
00:13:06.000 have been down there.
00:13:07.140 They're handling the other lane of challenges
00:13:09.520 saying Dominion voting machines are corrupt
00:13:13.480 and that were manipulated on election night,
00:13:16.060 somehow controlled by Joe Biden
00:13:17.320 to flip votes from Trump to him.
00:13:19.460 We have yet to see the proof of that.
00:13:21.180 No one has seen the proof of that.
00:13:23.160 And they had a rally the other night
00:13:25.680 where Lin Wood got up and said, 0.98
00:13:27.160 don't vote.
00:13:28.780 Don't vote in the Senate runoffs.
00:13:30.820 Why would you?
00:13:32.320 You know, you shouldn't.
00:13:33.440 You can't trust these machines
00:13:34.680 and basically ripping on the party.
00:13:38.220 And you called him a grifter saying
00:13:39.980 he just wants your donations for his legal fees.
00:13:42.220 Then Michelle Malkin attacked you
00:13:43.720 as a globalist John McCain with an eye patch,
00:13:46.100 which I don't know.
00:13:46.760 I'm not sure what you think of that.
00:13:48.640 But why do you think Lin Wood is a grifter? 0.82
00:13:50.600 He says he's just ticked off at a crappy vote. 0.88
00:13:53.700 Yeah, well, I mean,
00:13:54.560 I think he is trying to make money off of this whole thing.
00:13:57.020 I think that's clear.
00:13:57.800 I think that those two have done an immense amount of damage
00:14:00.540 to the president's case
00:14:01.660 because they distract from the real issues, right?
00:14:05.360 We just talked about an issue
00:14:07.020 that's actually worth looking into,
00:14:09.000 say, auditing the signatures.
00:14:10.780 Let's just make sure.
00:14:11.580 Let's audit at least just a sample of them.
00:14:13.400 Let's see how many turned out not to be correct.
00:14:16.940 I mean, that makes a lot of sense, right?
00:14:19.020 But then they start talking about,
00:14:20.280 you know, servers in Germany
00:14:21.740 and Venezuelan conspiracy theories.
00:14:24.260 And it gives the rest of the public
00:14:26.800 and on the left and the left-wing media
00:14:28.560 all the reasoning they need in the world
00:14:30.320 to just dismiss everything all at once.
00:14:32.160 They've done an immense amount of damage
00:14:33.460 to the president's case.
00:14:35.400 I would also note that Lin Wood
00:14:37.780 has a long history of being a Democrat
00:14:39.740 and a lawyer.
00:14:41.640 And Democrat policies,
00:14:42.800 when Democrats are in power,
00:14:43.880 it's very good for lawyers.
00:14:45.380 So I don't know.
00:14:46.260 I start to put all of these things together
00:14:47.860 and I start to wonder,
00:14:48.960 do you really have the interest
00:14:51.000 of Trump supporters at hand here?
00:14:52.880 I don't think you do.
00:14:54.360 And I continue to believe that.
00:14:55.920 Putting all that aside,
00:14:57.200 now I'm imputing his motivations a little bit, sure.
00:15:00.980 But putting that aside,
00:15:02.980 let's say his motivations are pure,
00:15:05.320 it's still a really bad idea not to vote.
00:15:07.680 The best way to reward the socialists
00:15:10.680 and the left-wing media 0.55
00:15:11.680 that tells you to sit down and shut up 0.92
00:15:13.360 is to not vote, okay?
00:15:14.920 If you think that quitting is equal to winning,
00:15:20.240 I don't know.
00:15:21.760 I don't know where you come down on that.
00:15:23.860 It's not.
00:15:25.000 Quitting is losing.
00:15:26.340 And I don't think we want to lose.
00:15:28.060 And everything is on the line here.
00:15:29.880 It's pretty rare that we have an election
00:15:31.820 like we do in Georgia
00:15:32.920 where so much is at stake
00:15:35.320 in a single election in a single state.
00:15:38.780 It's pretty historic.
00:15:40.380 That's why I was down there.
00:15:41.340 That's why I'll continue to go down there
00:15:42.680 and advocate for this.
00:15:45.300 Your rights are under threat.
00:15:47.080 We know exactly what the Democrats want to do.
00:15:49.660 I've seen it get passed out of the House
00:15:51.460 here for the last two years.
00:15:54.560 So-called moderate Democrats
00:15:56.140 and far-left radicals,
00:15:57.800 they all vote on the same things.
00:15:59.440 And I know exactly what's coming down the pipe.
00:16:01.380 They gain control of the entire Congress.
00:16:04.520 So people know they need to vote.
00:16:06.940 And that is the vibe, by the way,
00:16:08.260 that I got when I was on the ground in Georgia.
00:16:09.960 I am optimistic.
00:16:12.280 I'm becoming a little more optimistic
00:16:13.860 that this whole conspiracy theory
00:16:16.980 about don't go vote,
00:16:18.480 that movement is basically a Twitter movement
00:16:21.700 and perpetuated by opportunists
00:16:25.320 and another grifter, Michelle Malkin. 0.86
00:16:27.780 You have to understand something
00:16:29.440 about somebody like Michelle.
00:16:31.040 She was formerly a fairly normal conservative.
00:16:33.960 I don't know what happened to her over the years.
00:16:37.360 She did get situated with some other groups.
00:16:42.980 They call themselves the Groypers. 0.60
00:16:44.480 They're deeply racist, anti-Semitic groups 0.70
00:16:46.640 that sort of cloak themselves in MAGA terminology. 0.87
00:16:49.900 Like they wear Make America Great Again hats.
00:16:53.340 They say they're America first, pro-Trump,
00:16:56.960 but then they're obsessive about things
00:17:00.200 like America's support for Israel.
00:17:02.680 And they're very anti-Israel.
00:17:04.660 So this is what Michelle Malkin
00:17:05.700 has sort of become over time.
00:17:06.940 You have to realize that she's not what you think she is.
00:17:11.380 You have to also realize something else
00:17:12.940 about people like her.
00:17:14.140 She wants to lose.
00:17:15.640 Why would she want to lose?
00:17:16.760 Why would she want the conservative side to lose?
00:17:19.900 Because when you lose, you're angry, right?
00:17:21.900 When you lose, you're under attack.
00:17:23.440 And then you look and you're mad.
00:17:25.260 And so you look for the angriest voices on social media.
00:17:27.680 And she's one of those. 0.71
00:17:29.040 So this really is a money-making scheme for her.
00:17:32.460 They do not have any interest in winning
00:17:34.740 because her power is derived from extra clicks 1.00
00:17:37.700 and extra content and making you think
00:17:40.220 that she's the purest of the pure.
00:17:42.520 Like she's the one who really understands you.
00:17:44.940 And they'll tell you that, right?
00:17:46.160 And you hear this kind of language oftentimes.
00:17:47.860 I'm the only one you can trust.
00:17:50.080 It's very manipulative.
00:17:52.020 And I think it's worth exposing people like her.
00:17:56.260 They have no interest in you winning.
00:17:57.640 They have no interest in you getting what you actually want.
00:18:00.880 All right.
00:18:01.480 I'll offer a defense of Lynn and Michelle
00:18:03.820 since they're not here, just in fairness to them.
00:18:06.840 Lynn Wood, he has had a pretty badass history as a lawyer.
00:18:10.740 I mean, not only did he represent the Covington kid,
00:18:13.600 Nick Sandman successfully from what we read,
00:18:16.300 but going back to Richard Jewell, Duke Lacrosse, and so on,
00:18:21.820 this guy's had a pretty successful history as a lawyer,
00:18:26.280 which is why it is odd to see him standing up there
00:18:29.220 making some of these arguments.
00:18:31.760 And he does say, even though Breitbart and the Trump campaign
00:18:34.680 actually tweeted out that he has this voting history going for Dems,
00:18:38.620 he was like, yeah, but I voted for Donald Trump and I'm a Trump supporter.
00:18:43.280 And, you know, I mean, what I say, Malkin, you know,
00:18:46.340 she throws punches and she can receive them too.
00:18:48.840 Like, well, but he voted only in the Democrat primaries
00:18:52.260 in the presidential election.
00:18:53.300 We don't know who he voted for in the general election.
00:18:55.160 I would just, I would just, I would just say that.
00:18:57.360 And not to take away, he obviously does have some pretty great legal wins.
00:19:01.280 So I'll give him that.
00:19:02.720 But anyway, go ahead.
00:19:03.940 Yeah, well, it doesn't look like this is going to be one of them.
00:19:06.240 I mean, the Dominion voting argument is not going anywhere.
00:19:09.880 That one's dying on the vine and quickly in every single court
00:19:12.900 in which has been filed.
00:19:13.800 Um, Malkin, you know, she's, I feel like she's been attacked so much.
00:19:19.420 She found a posse of folks around her that are really controversial.
00:19:24.260 And I could see her loathe to denounce them because, you know,
00:19:28.860 I think as a Republican, you're constantly getting asked
00:19:31.020 to denounce this one or denounce that one.
00:19:32.840 And sometimes you really do need to denounce, you know,
00:19:36.360 like sometimes it's not all a media creation,
00:19:38.500 but I could sort of see her getting backed into this corner 0.96
00:19:40.860 where she just refused to do it.
00:19:42.520 And then a lot of the Republicans disassociated with her.
00:19:46.960 And now she's out there with her swords, just fighting,
00:19:49.460 fighting battle after battle.
00:19:50.560 She's got a show on Newsmax and, um, you know, she gets,
00:19:53.700 she gets her say.
00:19:54.440 So I wanted to give you the chance to, you know, respond.
00:19:56.560 Cause it's, it's not nice to call you that, that, that phrase.
00:20:00.040 I know you've heard, you've been called worse.
00:20:02.040 Let me shift gears.
00:20:03.240 Nobody came after Michelle.
00:20:04.780 I never came after Michelle.
00:20:06.120 You know, she, she starts her own fights. 1.00
00:20:07.740 You know, there's, there's no excusing her behavior
00:20:09.960 and the, and the cliff that she's fallen off of.
00:20:12.480 Um, it's, it's, it's concerning.
00:20:15.720 Um, like there's, there's something, there's something deeply wrong there.
00:20:19.380 I think.
00:20:20.700 Um, and so I, I don't know.
00:20:23.160 I don't know if that's a defense or not, but yeah, we can move on.
00:20:25.620 Um, so what do you think, what, what's going to happen, uh, in Georgia?
00:20:30.780 I mean, do you think this certification will stand and what do you think is going to happen
00:20:33.520 with the, with the presidential race overall?
00:20:35.180 Cause now we're, we're one week away.
00:20:37.240 We're in this safe Harbor period now, which means the states are not supposed to change
00:20:40.700 their, their certifications after the close of business on Tuesday.
00:20:44.960 They can, it's not like a federal law that they can't, but what do you think is going
00:20:49.520 to happen?
00:20:49.860 Um, it's an uphill battle, um, for the president's campaign.
00:20:54.060 It, it, it does seem like we're on, we're on track to, um, it's on track to be certified
00:20:59.100 as is.
00:21:00.520 Um, but as I've, I've always supported investigating and overturning every stone and I still do.
00:21:07.360 I think, and I think that's, that's kind of the takeaway about all this.
00:21:11.240 There's been a lot of issues that have been raised.
00:21:13.380 There's hundreds of affidavits, sworn statements of people saying they see things, um, that,
00:21:19.600 that indicate, um, bad behavior, poor processes.
00:21:22.880 Like, like I talked about before, um, you know, is that over, is that enough to overturn
00:21:27.680 the election?
00:21:28.240 It doesn't, it doesn't seem like that case is strong, um, right now, but, um, we will
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00:23:23.920 So what happens with the angry Trump voters when we presume that goes forward, right?
00:23:34.540 When it gets certified, Joe Biden is officially declared the winner.
00:23:38.600 What happens with these really angry Trump voters?
00:23:42.680 Well, I'm not sure what happens necessarily.
00:23:48.820 We can't ignore people's frustrations, which is why I say we have to shift the conversation
00:23:57.120 towards we need to fix our systems.
00:24:00.340 This is why I'm so concerned with this in particular.
00:24:03.320 You know, four out of five Americans believe we should have voter ID laws.
00:24:06.640 Four out of five.
00:24:07.380 We should also have the ability for our registration systems to talk to each other, ascertain whether
00:24:13.700 somebody is double registered somewhere or is not a citizen of this country.
00:24:20.540 We should be severely limiting unreliable mail-in ballots for the reasons I stated earlier.
00:24:28.640 I would give out another number.
00:24:29.540 550,000 ballots were rejected in just the 2020 presidential primaries.
00:24:36.780 That's enormous amounts about why are we using this system?
00:24:41.220 And again, there's only two reasons that could be, okay?
00:24:44.500 The election official did the right thing.
00:24:45.940 The election official did the wrong thing.
00:24:47.600 Either way, it's a bad system.
00:24:49.340 550,000 mail-in ballots.
00:24:52.040 And to say that there's, the left likes to breeze over this issue and say, well, there's
00:24:59.380 no widespread systemic election fraud.
00:25:03.560 Okay, well, now define widespread.
00:25:05.420 Because we can go example after example of actual election fraud.
00:25:10.580 You know, a social worker was charged with 134 counts of election fraud on November 6th.
00:25:14.540 In Texas, there's a Michigan man facing felony charges for voter fraud.
00:25:17.720 Now, that's here, that's just this last month in November.
00:25:20.680 In Georgia, they're investigating groups that are encouraging voter fraud, trying to get
00:25:24.100 out-of-state individuals to vote.
00:25:26.260 Like, okay, so it happens.
00:25:28.460 It happens.
00:25:29.200 And when it happens even once or twice, even if it doesn't change the outcome of an election,
00:25:35.040 it creates distrust in the system, which is a threat to democracy in and of itself.
00:25:39.120 So these voters' concerns have to be addressed.
00:25:42.400 And we've, and we, and the Republican Party has to, I think, be leaders on this, right?
00:25:49.360 But we, and we have to walk that line, I think, of, of, of addressing their concerns
00:25:55.400 without, without maybe, without giving into some of the more extreme statements.
00:25:59.840 Well, you know, what we're seeing too, I've been noticing in this past month where Trump's
00:26:03.680 been filing these legal challenges is, we don't know how widespread the voter fraud is.
00:26:09.260 He's been kicking the tires and some mud has been falling off.
00:26:13.220 And if he had the chance, you know, the way these things work out, there's a very short
00:26:17.400 amount of time from the vote to the inauguration.
00:26:20.560 Whereas in a normal litigation, this kind of thing would go on for a year or more where
00:26:24.200 you'd have the chance to ferret out your claim, to do discovery.
00:26:27.840 There's no such opportunity.
00:26:29.520 And probably for good reason, because we don't want to live in limbo like that forever.
00:26:32.880 But, you know, he is finding some, some numbers that are disturbing.
00:26:36.600 And so I am more skeptical than ever of, you know, these Democrats in the media,
00:26:41.120 MSNBC anchors are constantly like, oh, these crazy Republicans who are constantly
00:26:45.700 mentioning voter fraud.
00:26:47.060 There's never been any proof of widespread voter fraud.
00:26:49.340 It's like, well, you know what?
00:26:50.760 It's almost impossible to get it done in the time that's allotted by law.
00:26:54.740 But Trump's all on assault here has given me concern.
00:26:59.740 I mean, has it given you concern?
00:27:02.080 Yeah, well, but I've had this concern for a long time.
00:27:04.040 This is, you know, for those of us who spend time looking at this, this is nothing new.
00:27:09.000 I've long, I've long said that our, that our, our process is not good.
00:27:13.840 In some states, it's not good.
00:27:15.320 If we all copied the process of Florida, Texas, where we know the outcome of the election and
00:27:21.540 people seem to be pretty happy with it, on election night, we would, we would be in
00:27:26.040 a much better place.
00:27:27.020 So it's not like we don't have models to, to look to, um, and, and to learn from and
00:27:33.420 just, just make this right.
00:27:34.900 So, you know, it doesn't surprise me that when you start to peel back the onion a little
00:27:38.720 bit, you're going to find things.
00:27:40.640 And the left is so disingenuous about this because it's like, well, you could argue that
00:27:45.680 there's, there's no illicit goods trafficked into the United States.
00:27:48.700 If you just never check the cargo, right, you can be like, well, there's nothing, there's
00:27:53.020 no evidence of it.
00:27:54.000 It's like, well, you didn't check.
00:27:55.600 You actually have to open up the trunk or, or, or, or check or check the cargo container.
00:28:01.400 Um, if you don't actually look at anything, um, and there's no process to do that and no
00:28:06.740 process of verification, then I suppose you could always claim that everything's just,
00:28:11.040 just fine and just dandy.
00:28:12.200 But, but of course this is too important to just, to just, to just leave it be.
00:28:16.600 Um, our, our processes have to be better.
00:28:18.700 So the GOP is having a little bit of, um, you know, this internal, not war.
00:28:24.260 I think that's too strong, but there's definitely some factions within the party, the more MAGA
00:28:28.120 devotee party piece of the party, and then the more sort of general Republicans, but the,
00:28:35.560 so is the democratic party.
00:28:36.940 Uh, and you've got the AOC wing of the party versus the more moderate, you know, we're told
00:28:41.480 that's the more of the Biden wing of the party.
00:28:43.660 And I know you've, you've had some dustups with her, including on Twitter, just in the past
00:28:47.440 couple of days where, you know, she likes to play the victim a lot, a lot. 0.99
00:28:52.520 And you're actually kind of fun.
00:28:54.100 Cause you're always calling her out on it.
00:28:55.700 And then what I noticed is if she, if she makes a false claim of victimhood and you call
00:28:59.540 her out on it, then she reacts as a victim in response to your latest tweet.
00:29:03.800 Like your latest tweet has made her yet another victim.
00:29:06.120 Like it's just a never ending cycle of how mean you are and how victimized she is.
00:29:10.860 And, you know, the, the Republicans writ large are awful because of something you said in
00:29:14.520 response to her, you know, it's like, so what do you think of her and her approach to social
00:29:18.880 media and messaging?
00:29:20.960 She's a skilled rhetoricist. 1.00
00:29:23.340 Um, is that a word?
00:29:24.480 I think it is.
00:29:25.000 I like it.
00:29:26.620 Yeah.
00:29:27.440 Um, you know, she, she's good at this kind of juvenile argumentation, but it is juvenile.
00:29:34.420 Um, and it, it, it, it is, it is always, it, it, it is always below the belt.
00:29:40.860 It's never honest.
00:29:42.180 It's always, um, it's always a misconstruing of words, which is honestly why I rarely interact
00:29:48.260 with her.
00:29:49.240 Um, you know, I was surprised.
00:29:51.960 Well, I mean, I see her occasionally.
00:29:54.580 I've been, we sort of know each we've met right.
00:29:57.200 And freshman orientation, um, in the halls of Congress, like you don't, if you're not working
00:30:01.360 on a committee with people, you actually don't interact with them very much.
00:30:05.380 Um, and so, you know, I wouldn't say we, we know each other, um, and, and, and, and much,
00:30:12.200 much more than, um, occasional interactions.
00:30:16.160 But, um, yeah, it was strange to kind of see her come at me for that one.
00:30:20.540 I think she'd just been taking a lot of heat for those silly comments that she'd been making 1.00
00:30:23.660 all week about how Republicans are just a bunch of, a bunch of old guys in leather back 0.95
00:30:28.060 chairs that would go crying if they ever had to, to deal with a, with a hard order as a,
00:30:32.700 working as a waiter. 0.97
00:30:33.740 It was just so out of touch and so silly.
00:30:38.400 So that's the, it's the buzzards of, uh, that are going off here in the, in the office.
00:30:42.960 Um,
00:30:43.440 They want you to vote?
00:30:44.980 No, not yet.
00:30:46.440 Not yet, but soon.
00:30:47.900 Um, I, I still have not, um, actually figured out the, the coding of, of what these buzzards
00:30:52.880 mean.
00:30:53.360 It's quite convenient.
00:30:55.120 Um,
00:30:55.620 Next term.
00:30:56.660 Yeah.
00:30:57.240 Yeah.
00:30:57.560 So she, she basically said Republicans like to make fun of the fact that I used to be a
00:31:01.080 waitress, which it's like, it's like, no, we don't specifically, I know what is she
00:31:05.440 talking about?
00:31:06.040 She likes to use that as a, as a shield. 1.00
00:31:09.120 And that's what I mean.
00:31:10.220 Like when, when she misconstrues what people say deliberately to make, to make her seem
00:31:14.400 like a victim, it's like, no, we were not making fun of your dancing.
00:31:16.740 We were not making fun of you being a waitress, right?
00:31:19.980 That that's, that's, that's, nobody's made fun of that at all.
00:31:24.060 Um, you know, I'm not exactly what people even, even say about it, but it's, it's usually,
00:31:28.660 it's usually something about like, well, you're not qualified because you didn't do this,
00:31:33.120 this, or this, you know, maybe, maybe that would be it.
00:31:34.940 But, um, but nobody's ever making fun of that.
00:31:38.760 But she's dying for you too.
00:31:40.240 She's, she wants you to so badly.
00:31:42.880 Yeah.
00:31:43.240 Yeah.
00:31:43.420 I think so.
00:31:44.240 I think so.
00:31:45.400 And it was just, but, but that's, those specific comments were just so out of touch because
00:31:49.000 it's like, you know, there's multiple members of Congress on the Republican side, missing
00:31:52.260 body parts.
00:31:53.560 So it's, you know, to say that we just don't know hardship and, you know, there's multiple business
00:31:58.000 and there's multiple people who have like real life experiences.
00:32:01.860 And for you to just dismiss that, it just, it just shows how out of touch she is truly
00:32:07.520 and how insulting he is all the time.
00:32:10.060 And that playing the victim thing, like she, she really embodies sort of the worst, uh,
00:32:14.400 stereotypes of the millennial generation and make Kimberly give us a bad name. 1.00
00:32:17.880 And I wish she'd stop.
00:32:18.820 Yeah.
00:32:19.160 Because she, she comes out with Republicans make fun of the fact that I used to be a waitress, 0.99
00:32:23.120 but we all know if they ever had to do a double, they'd be the ones found crying in the walk-in
00:32:27.140 fridge halfway through their first shift because someone yelled at them for bringing seltzer
00:32:31.160 when they wanted sparkling. 0.99
00:32:32.440 And you, you accurately responded with something to the effect of these people are nuts. 0.92
00:32:37.520 People like AOC who believe the biggest hardship in life was figuring out whether still or 0.94
00:32:42.360 sparkling and you don't know hardship till you cried in the back.
00:32:46.560 They don't understand.
00:32:48.160 And, and, you know, they, they haven't suffered in the mountains of Afghanistan, like you and
00:32:52.340 your buddies.
00:32:52.760 And then she responds, good to know how little you truly think of food workers at Dan Crenshaw.
00:32:57.760 I mean, that's my point.
00:32:59.700 It's like, she just finds a way.
00:33:01.820 I am still the victim.
00:33:03.260 You are still the oppressor.
00:33:05.000 I will find a way.
00:33:06.760 I mean, that's, that's the underlying ideology of the left, right?
00:33:10.800 This sort of hierarchy of victims.
00:33:12.780 So, you know, once you understand their sort of social justice way of framing every argument,
00:33:17.680 um, their, their arguments can be pretty predictable.
00:33:20.400 She, she's just a little bit better at it and more aggressive about it than, than most 1.00
00:33:25.040 members of the left.
00:33:26.060 And I think that's why she's popular over there. 1.00
00:33:28.760 Um, but it really, it really is about elevating that victim.
00:33:31.440 That is a virtue.
00:33:32.660 How do you see that playing out in the democratic party over the next four years?
00:33:35.780 That her wing, which really is woke and annoying versus the more moderate liberals who
00:33:41.880 are, you know, farther away from her left wing ideology than she would like.
00:33:46.540 Yeah, I don't envy, um, you know, the older wing of the Democrats, the more moderate wing
00:33:52.620 of the Democrats, whatever you might call them.
00:33:55.240 Um, they're, they're in an impossible situation and there's fewer and fewer of them.
00:33:59.900 Let's just be honest.
00:34:00.880 It's, it's, uh, it's harder and harder to argue that the Democrat party is the working
00:34:06.340 class party.
00:34:07.200 The, you know, the old labor party is, is, is maybe what we could have called the Democrat
00:34:10.800 party decades ago.
00:34:12.460 That just doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
00:34:15.400 Um, you know, typical union workers are not voting Democrat because the Democrat culture
00:34:21.060 has become so extreme and, and left them and left them behind.
00:34:26.060 Um, it's, uh, you know, just because you support union bosses, uh, it doesn't mean you're necessarily
00:34:31.880 supporting the union worker.
00:34:33.800 Um, and that's, that's a pretty important distinction.
00:34:36.240 So, uh, the other thing is, I mean, when you look at the divisions on the right, um, you
00:34:44.200 know, let's say with the freedom caucus and everybody else, those divisions are more a
00:34:48.540 matter of style.
00:34:50.040 Oftentimes say the freedom caucus likes to use procedural obstruction to, to fight the
00:34:54.540 Democrats, everybody else a little bit less.
00:34:56.620 So, you know, a lot of Republicans are more inclined to take incremental win and, um, be
00:35:02.480 some, you know, and maybe, and maybe other Republicans are not right.
00:35:06.220 They, they, they want to make big statements, big grandiose statements, big wins.
00:35:09.840 But fundamentally, I don't see a whole lot of difference in, in, in values and political
00:35:14.300 philosophies and policy differences.
00:35:17.240 So the left is very different.
00:35:19.300 The left is, is, is, is radically, uh, divided because progressivism is, well, it's about progress,
00:35:25.400 right?
00:35:25.740 And the, and the progress of ideas.
00:35:27.680 Um, so that means radical change just for the sake of change itself.
00:35:32.260 You can't be progressing if you're not changing.
00:35:35.160 And, um, and so it's, it was always inevitable that well-intentioned liberalism would end up
00:35:40.880 in this sort of totalitarian socialism, because if well-intentioned liberalism is, is, you know,
00:35:46.480 helping people, I just want, I just want to help people.
00:35:48.960 I just want to have another program, you know, tax people a little bit more because I want
00:35:54.040 to, want to help the poor.
00:35:54.840 This is well-intentioned liberalism.
00:35:56.220 Um, let's call it, I think it might be a little bit naive.
00:35:58.880 I think it's, um, I think it, I think it ignores trade-offs and policymaking, but fine,
00:36:03.820 let's call it well-intentioned liberalism.
00:36:05.580 You can respectfully disagree with it and find balance.
00:36:08.540 But if you always need to provide people more services, then you always need more power
00:36:12.580 to provide those services.
00:36:13.740 And to get more power, you need more government control and you need more redistribution of
00:36:17.680 wealth.
00:36:17.920 And you end up in a place that looks a lot like socialism eventually.
00:36:21.540 Um, and then you, you, you put on top of that sort of the woke ideology.
00:36:26.220 The cultural woke ideology that has, that is bubbled up underneath it.
00:36:30.660 And you've got a pretty toxic mix over there, um, that's gone beyond Marxism and, and, and
00:36:36.540 it's like Marxism combined with, with crazy identity politics and, and other, and other
00:36:41.960 postmodern ideas, um, where nothing is real.
00:36:45.340 There is no truth, only yours.
00:36:47.080 And, and whatever the whims of the current progressive, you know, bandwagon is it's, it's
00:36:53.760 a scary place to navigate.
00:36:55.820 Um, and I don't envy them and, and it's only getting stronger, I would say.
00:36:59.580 So, so in here in Congress, um, more of those kinds of members won and more of the moderate
00:37:05.520 members lost.
00:37:06.580 And, um, that'll probably be the case in, uh, in the next election too.
00:37:10.800 How big a factor do you think these COVID shutdowns are, uh, to our politics right now and, and
00:37:17.740 going forward?
00:37:18.460 Because even though, thank God we have a vaccine coming, uh, people are sick of it.
00:37:25.360 And we could very much be looking at several months more of these draconian lockdowns and
00:37:30.320 places like LA, we're already seeing it, you know, meanwhile, coupled with the hypocrisy
00:37:35.620 of what in every case has been a Democrat leader of one of these cities with the do, as I say,
00:37:42.060 not as I do messaging, you know, the guy in Austin, you know, you're, you're a Texan, uh,
00:37:47.040 the mayor of Austin saying, don't leave your house from his vacation home in Cabo, um, the
00:37:53.240 LA mayor, mayor, the, uh, the San Jose mayor, the governor of California, Gavin News, and
00:37:58.460 they all break the rules while they're lecturing the rest of us and, and separate and apart
00:38:02.720 from the hypocrisy, just the draconian nature of the lockdown, I think has really motivated
00:38:07.120 a lot of workers who may typically have been Democrat supporters to rethink what is best
00:38:13.980 for them.
00:38:14.380 Should they be putting utter faith in government knowing best, whether it's Fauci or the orders
00:38:21.440 of the lockdowns to quote, keep us safe, you know, how much power do we want to give
00:38:25.940 to these government officials and seed in our own lives?
00:38:30.080 Yeah, it is.
00:38:30.920 This is a subject I've been, um, pretty consistent about.
00:38:34.660 I, I never believed that lockdowns, uh, were the answer, not, not past, you know, the first
00:38:40.320 two weeks.
00:38:41.720 Um, and the data and the history has proven me right on this.
00:38:46.320 They, plenty of studies now show that they're, they just don't make the difference that you
00:38:50.600 think they make, um, huge amounts of costs with very little benefit.
00:38:54.900 And I think for the most part, people understand that at this point.
00:38:58.740 Um, so it's, it's mind blowing to see a lot of these, and they're always Democrats, um, for
00:39:05.140 whatever reason, the, the Democrat disposition is more inclined to, um, to believe that any
00:39:12.520 cost is worth it, right.
00:39:13.900 To, to keep you safe.
00:39:15.460 And, um, we can do a long analysis of, of, of why that is, of why they believe that.
00:39:20.700 Um, but I, but to your question, I, I, yeah, I, I think it has flipped some people, um, maybe,
00:39:27.280 maybe red-pilled them a little bit, um, enough to really change the nature of elections in
00:39:32.060 these cities.
00:39:32.800 Um, unfortunately not because it's the, the cost of these lockdowns is unfortunately still
00:39:38.420 born by a few, um, almost entirely small business owners and, uh, the people who work there.
00:39:44.580 And, um, you know, the, the, the other, the other bad news I'll give you is when we kind
00:39:49.540 of look at this and polling and surveys, people don't even necessarily like they're, they're
00:39:54.440 upset about the lockdowns, but they don't necessarily attach it to their politics.
00:39:58.920 This, this might blow your mind and it blows my mind, but, but, um, you know, you have to
00:40:03.960 understand that regular, regular people are not soaking up politics all the time.
00:40:08.460 Um, you know, they're, they're just trying to make a buck.
00:40:12.100 No, I know that's true, but I know, you know, here in New York, we started off, for example,
00:40:16.260 with these people were so in love with governor Cuomo, they were calling themselves Cuomo sexuals
00:40:21.820 and the way, welcome to New York.
00:40:27.780 Um, the way people have seen him behave since then has really changed a lot of opinions here,
00:40:33.520 not the diehard Democrats, but people, I don't know that it's going to change their party
00:40:37.060 affiliation, but I do think his partisanship has, has shined through in a way that, you
00:40:41.880 know, extended exposure will do, but that is interesting that it doesn't tend to be a
00:40:46.820 political motivator.
00:40:47.820 Maybe if we were still in lockdowns and we didn't have vaccine would have played a bigger
00:40:51.020 role.
00:40:52.180 Um, so what, you know, what do you think we're going to do over the next few months?
00:40:56.980 Because we are seeing increased lockdowns and we have a, there's a soundbite.
00:41:01.320 It's a woman named Angela Marsden and she was from the, uh, Pineapple Hill Saloon and Grill
00:41:05.880 in Sherman Oaks, California.
00:41:07.260 And she's disgusted.
00:41:08.720 She, she's ticked off because she's got to close her restaurant. 1.00
00:41:12.220 Meanwhile, the movie business with its trailers is right next door feeding people here.
00:41:16.060 Here it is.
00:41:16.700 I'm losing everything.
00:41:18.560 Everything I own is being taken away from me.
00:41:20.860 And they set up a movie company right next to my outdoor patio, which is right over here.
00:41:28.140 And people wonder why I'm protesting and why I have had enough.
00:41:34.520 They have not given us money and they have shut us down.
00:41:37.960 We cannot survive.
00:41:39.000 My staff cannot survive.
00:41:40.320 Tell me that this is dangerous, but right next to me as a slap in my face, this is dangerous.
00:41:50.620 Mayor Garcetti and Gavin Newsom is responsible for every single person that doesn't have unemployment,
00:41:57.720 that does not have a job and all the businesses that are going under.
00:42:01.700 And we need your help.
00:42:03.560 We need somebody to do something about this.
00:42:07.320 Hmm.
00:42:07.520 What would you say to her?
00:42:10.120 Well, you know, I keep fighting back.
00:42:13.700 You know, I shared her video as well.
00:42:15.940 It really is heartbreaking.
00:42:18.540 It's, this is, I've been pounding, I've been pounding this issue for a very long time.
00:42:23.880 Encouraging businesses to band together, file lawsuits against your local government.
00:42:28.880 I think that should be the next action.
00:42:31.780 And because this is, this is becoming about survival at this point.
00:42:37.080 So this is serious.
00:42:39.780 Um, and it's, it's, it's really heartbreaking.
00:42:43.180 I, I, I, I'm just, I'm kind of at a loss to see how does this not affect Mayor Garcetti
00:42:49.000 more?
00:42:49.640 How does he just not care at all?
00:42:52.300 And all, and he doesn't have to do anything except less.
00:42:55.500 All he has to do is do less.
00:42:56.900 That's all we're asking him to do.
00:42:58.340 I mean, it's the easiest solution you can think of.
00:43:02.220 Just do less.
00:43:03.460 Just stop.
00:43:04.380 You know what he would say.
00:43:05.360 He would say it's about saving lives.
00:43:07.160 He'd say, you know, it's just a temporary thing.
00:43:09.920 We've all got to do our part.
00:43:11.380 We've got to bend the curve.
00:43:13.040 We've got to think about the older people.
00:43:15.320 And, um, if that requires some sacrifice short-term, so be it.
00:43:19.120 Right.
00:43:19.480 Yeah.
00:43:19.680 Cause these people, and so I said before, we could go into a long discussion about that
00:43:25.000 sort of the wiring of somebody's brain and like why they think that way.
00:43:28.500 Um, and so you have to understand that liberals, liberals, um, emphasize certain moral, moral
00:43:39.400 priorities, much more than conservatives do.
00:43:42.200 Um, I'm going to reference Jonathan Heights work on this, where if you have five moral pillars,
00:43:47.220 you know, one would be, say, caring, kindness, another would be fairness, another would be
00:43:51.760 authority, sense of order, another would be, um, purity, uh, sense of sanctity.
00:43:57.040 Um, I think I'm missing one, but, but you kind of get the idea.
00:44:01.200 Um, liberals really mostly only care about the caring and kindness, um, to, to the, to the
00:44:07.440 point where there is no balance at all, where it's, which is why they can say with total
00:44:12.040 sincerity, if it saves one life, shows that I care the most.
00:44:16.280 And none of these other trade-offs matter because I saved the life, right?
00:44:20.120 So they, they believe honestly that they're being compassionate, um, but they're blinded
00:44:26.580 and their, their own disposition completely blinds them to the consequences of their actions.
00:44:32.360 Um, and they can moralize over you and can, and, and tell you that they're your moral better
00:44:37.400 because of it, because they operate in this sort of psychological disposition that is so out
00:44:42.660 of balance.
00:44:43.220 We'll have more with Dan in just one minute, especially on victimhood and how we all need
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00:47:08.060 And now, before we get back to Dan, I want to bring you a feature we call here, Sound
00:47:12.260 Up, here on The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:47:14.520 This is where we play you some notable sound from the news.
00:47:17.220 And today, we're going to check in with two of the voices the media loves most when it
00:47:22.380 comes to COVID.
00:47:23.860 Can you guess who I mean?
00:47:25.460 Governor Andrew Cuomo, who we just mentioned not long ago, and Anthony Fauci.
00:47:30.640 Fresh off of his International Emmy Award for excellent TV presentation, Governor Andrew
00:47:36.940 Cuomo spent some time this week interviewing Dr. Fauci, right?
00:47:40.420 He's like really leaning into the TV thing.
00:47:42.460 I guess he sees his term as governor.
00:47:44.140 You know, it's going to come to a close.
00:47:45.800 Eventually, he wants to do what his brother does now, wants to be a TV star.
00:47:49.400 So he's interviewing Dr. Fauci.
00:47:51.560 The two guys were talking about vaccines and how to promote the safety of the vaccines
00:47:55.800 to the public when the discussion veered into very weird territory.
00:48:00.080 Listen.
00:48:00.220 We'll do an ad telling New Yorkers it's safe to take the vaccine to, you know,
00:48:06.940 put us together.
00:48:08.120 We're like the modern-day De Niro and Pacino.
00:48:11.600 You can be whichever you want.
00:48:14.140 You can be either De Niro or Pacino.
00:48:17.640 Fauci and Cuomo.
00:48:18.960 I'll give you a front.
00:48:19.660 Who do you want to be, De Niro or Pacino?
00:48:22.560 Which one do you want to be?
00:48:23.740 I love them both.
00:48:24.560 I love them both.
00:48:25.720 I don't want to insult one or the other.
00:48:27.340 If I say one, I don't want to hurt the feelings of the other.
00:48:29.860 Yeah.
00:48:31.400 Who's the politician?
00:48:33.160 All right.
00:48:33.540 Last question.
00:48:34.260 I know you're down in Washington.
00:48:35.760 You're doing great duty.
00:48:36.760 But I know you miss New York.
00:48:39.440 What?
00:48:40.060 We want to figure out what to send you from Christmas for Christmas.
00:48:43.760 What food do you miss the most that you can't get down there that you could get if you were
00:48:50.420 back here in New York in Brooklyn?
00:48:52.100 You know, Governor, whenever I need some comfort food and I dream back of my days in the Benson
00:48:59.140 Earth section of Brooklyn, the thing that comes to my mind are two things.
00:49:03.840 A nice Nathan hot dog and a really steaming pastrami sandwich.
00:49:10.400 That would be really great.
00:49:12.320 All right.
00:49:12.720 So no cannolis, no meatballs, no Nathan's hot dog.
00:49:17.760 I don't want to overdo it.
00:49:19.120 I don't want to overdo my welcome.
00:49:20.820 I'll take them all.
00:49:23.820 Oh, my God.
00:49:25.840 I'm sorry.
00:49:26.840 Can I just say on behalf of my friend Janice Dean, OMG, I just find that gross.
00:49:31.740 I actually I'll give Fauci a pass.
00:49:33.580 He's the interview subject.
00:49:34.940 So if the host takes it to a place of levity, you go there.
00:49:38.600 But Governor Cuomo, there's a reason you're not an anchor, because you need to, as a news
00:49:42.640 anchor, show sensitivity to the audience and what they might be going through on a really
00:49:47.720 difficult subject.
00:49:48.500 It's not to say you could never have a moment of levity.
00:49:50.520 But given the fact that we've had we've set the record in New York for deaths, maybe he
00:49:57.040 shouldn't be joking all the time with his brother, with a giant Q-tip, with Fauci about
00:50:01.680 pastrami.
00:50:02.760 I've had it with this guy.
00:50:04.280 Of course, the media won't care.
00:50:06.240 They won't cover it.
00:50:06.980 They won't say anything about it.
00:50:08.140 It's it's up to my friend, the meteorologist, to keep shining a light on Governor Cuomo, sending
00:50:12.260 six thousand positive patients, covid positive patients in the nursing homes here in New York,
00:50:18.160 something he's never apologized for and never taken responsibility for.
00:50:21.400 And we had between six, maybe as many as twenty thousand elderly people die as a result.
00:50:27.740 No responsibility.
00:50:29.280 Oh, but he's Robert De Niro.
00:50:31.000 He's closer to Fredo.
00:50:32.000 He's like his brother, little Fredos, double Fredo, twin Fredos.
00:50:36.120 That's what I think of the Cuomo brothers.
00:50:37.760 I'm a little tired of their shtick.
00:50:40.380 And now back to Dan Crenshaw.
00:50:43.320 It's interesting to hear you talk about the left because I think it's not necessarily a
00:50:48.880 leftist thing, but I do think there's a fair there's a greater amount of people on the left who
00:50:53.840 enjoy drama, right?
00:50:57.420 Who sort of enjoy crisis in a way that a lot of Republicans might not lean into.
00:51:05.400 And I think.
00:51:06.760 Theatrics.
00:51:07.280 Yeah.
00:51:07.480 Yeah.
00:51:08.040 And I think you as a as a Navy SEAL.
00:51:10.560 I mean, you you've got to be looking at this.
00:51:12.700 I see it in some of your tweets, like, you know, calling out AOC for like, oh, please 0.92
00:51:16.900 don't talk to me about hardship.
00:51:18.460 You know, that the SEALs, what I know of the SEALs and I've been to a lot of benefits for
00:51:22.220 them over the years and love the SEALs, but they don't quit.
00:51:24.700 They don't do weakness.
00:51:25.960 And they they believe that winning is a mindset.
00:51:28.840 And the last thing they would lean into is drama or victimhood, even when they have been
00:51:34.900 victims.
00:51:35.600 You know, like you're a guy who had his eye shot out by an IED.
00:51:38.420 I've never once heard you play the victim to the contrary.
00:51:41.540 So what I mean, talk about mindset and its importance in life.
00:51:45.740 Yeah, it's it's it's a choice, really.
00:51:47.840 I mean, there's you know, there's no secret to to I think thinking that way.
00:51:52.760 And what, you know, what you alluded to on the left is what I think really, really comes
00:51:57.580 down to is emotional manipulation.
00:51:59.860 They they they're skilled at this and they know that to connect with somebody on a deeper
00:52:05.720 level and gain their support, they need to engage in some kind of emotional manipulation
00:52:10.340 and connect on an emotional level as opposed to a rational level.
00:52:14.680 And it can work fairly well.
00:52:17.700 And what I talk about oftentimes is, OK, how do you how do you shield yourself from that?
00:52:24.660 Right.
00:52:24.960 And how do you how do you how do you operate with a with a better sense of stillness?
00:52:29.460 Where are you where you where you where you, you know, let's just let's just go back to
00:52:34.080 an old lesson.
00:52:35.000 Count that your mother taught you.
00:52:36.380 Count to 10 before you react.
00:52:38.280 How do you not react to that headline?
00:52:40.500 And it takes practice.
00:52:42.260 How do you how do you first say to yourself, I wonder if there's more to this story.
00:52:46.100 I wonder if there's tradeoffs to what they're telling me.
00:52:48.660 I wonder if the the the hyper emotional theatric performance from this politician is meant
00:52:56.180 to cover for the fact that they don't have a lot of good ideas to tell you, you know, are
00:53:00.540 people are people substituting passion for sophistication and and are we rewarding that?
00:53:09.180 And we do it on the right, too.
00:53:10.780 Like we absolutely do it on the right as well.
00:53:13.260 I think it happens.
00:53:13.660 I think it's more mainstream on the left, but that, you know, we could think of plenty
00:53:18.620 of examples that are trying to emotionally manipulate you, get you to be angry, get you
00:53:24.180 to follow them as a result.
00:53:25.600 We have to shield ourselves from that kind of emotional manipulation.
00:53:30.140 It's it's do not have your best interests in mind and it makes us unhappier, you know,
00:53:35.740 so and so it's I don't know that there's a huge amount of secrets to being that way.
00:53:40.860 But I think the first step is to simply acknowledge that that that this is what people are trying
00:53:45.980 to do to you, that this is the world we live in and you acknowledge that and you choose
00:53:51.660 to be more still in the face of that chaos.
00:53:56.460 What would you say you personally went into the SEALs with that attitude or the SEALs did
00:54:02.240 it to you?
00:54:03.460 Oh, it's definitely a mix.
00:54:05.260 It's a mix.
00:54:05.940 Like we often say, you know, you were a SEAL before you got here, but we had to make you
00:54:10.480 prove it and then give you some skill sets that you didn't have before.
00:54:15.320 If you the only way you make it through the SEAL teams is with this sort of this sort of
00:54:21.460 mind, this winning mindset.
00:54:22.980 You know, I call it a no plan B mindset.
00:54:24.540 Like I never I never had a choice to quit.
00:54:27.020 And so if you go into training like buds with a with an with this notion that, well, I'm
00:54:35.860 going to do my best.
00:54:36.640 And if I make it, I make it.
00:54:38.280 And if and if I if I don't, I don't.
00:54:40.880 But I'm going to do my best.
00:54:41.900 You're going to you're not you're going to you're going to lose.
00:54:43.560 You're going to quit because you gave yourself a choice because your body will break.
00:54:50.760 You will fail and it will be it will be much harder than you thought.
00:54:54.500 But if you go into it like, well, I'm just I'm just I'm going to die or I'm going to
00:54:59.420 make it.
00:54:59.940 It's one of the two.
00:55:02.360 Then then you'll make it now, of course, that's not everybody.
00:55:05.540 Sometimes you just you're not good enough swimmer, right?
00:55:07.580 You're just not good at certain skills and you get dropped that way.
00:55:10.020 But it's not because you quit.
00:55:11.820 OK, you might not have met a standard, but it's not because you quit.
00:55:15.940 And we lose the most guys because they quit.
00:55:18.220 We will try to help people through skill sets if they have shown that they are tougher than
00:55:23.600 nails and there is nothing on this earth that will make them quit.
00:55:26.920 We will work with them to get their swim times up and get their running better, whatever it
00:55:32.020 takes so that they can they can meet those skill set thresholds.
00:55:35.660 I just feel like we've gotten away from any semblance of that as a society.
00:55:39.640 The SEALs I know believe the only limits you have are self-imposed.
00:55:44.800 And just, you know, if you can get to that winning mindset like I the guys, you know,
00:55:50.160 I go to this benefit for these guys and and they they're saying is say I can't, you know,
00:55:55.840 they're inspired by you doubting them like they can't wait to shove it down your throat.
00:56:00.540 And these are guys who have had, you know, their faces blown up.
00:56:04.980 It only makes them more emboldened. 0.97
00:56:07.280 And then I look at these losers with their thumbs on their keyboard trying to get people, 1.00
00:56:12.160 you know, fired or their university admission pulled over one stupid comment. 1.00
00:56:16.660 I think, oh, my God, it's are these even the same species of being like there's nothing 1.00
00:56:23.700 in common.
00:56:24.280 And my one of my big quandaries right now, Dan, is how do we get more people into the
00:56:29.640 SEAL like mentality and out of the other mentality?
00:56:33.920 Because it really is having a negative effect on the country.
00:56:37.360 Yeah, I mean, so I wrote a whole book about this.
00:56:41.320 Yeah, I love it.
00:56:42.780 It's called fortitude.
00:56:44.880 Yeah.
00:56:46.360 And, you know, and I have a lot of lessons in there.
00:56:50.760 Gain a sense of perspective.
00:56:51.940 Right.
00:56:52.440 And a lot of this is conscious.
00:56:53.700 You have to consciously embark upon these lessons.
00:56:55.860 Right.
00:56:56.300 Gain a sense of perspective.
00:56:57.360 Remind yourself every once in a while that that no matter how hard you have it, somebody
00:57:02.300 else has had it harder and they dealt with better dealt with it better than you're dealing
00:57:05.640 with it now.
00:57:06.500 That's a pretty hard truth, but it's an objectively true statement. 0.95
00:57:09.640 Understand that even somebody on I saw this kind of on Twitter, I think it was Michael
00:57:17.420 Tracy.
00:57:17.820 He was like he was like making fun of people who are calling 2020 the worst year ever.
00:57:23.100 And it's like it's not the worst year ever.
00:57:25.640 You know, and if we're going to go through a pandemic, it's by far the best year to ever
00:57:28.520 have been going through a pandemic.
00:57:29.800 Given given that we created a vaccine in less than a year, that we have the we have we do
00:57:34.960 have the best medical system, the best ability to deal with this than anybody else in the
00:57:39.200 world.
00:57:40.480 You know, it's if you're working from home and watching too much Tiger King, I mean,
00:57:45.740 you know, it's not the worst year.
00:57:47.440 It's a crappy year, but it's not it's not the worst.
00:57:49.980 We need to just understand that.
00:57:51.780 We need to understand that that people have had it worse and dealt with things better.
00:57:55.320 So a matter of perspective is really important to say other thing, you know, it's a more
00:58:00.560 practical way to to get better.
00:58:03.720 Do hard things like challenge yourself.
00:58:07.040 I'm not saying go through buds, but challenge yourself training program.
00:58:12.460 Yeah, but challenge yourself in a way that that is harder than something you did yesterday.
00:58:18.200 And, you know, this builds mental calluses, physical calluses.
00:58:21.980 And this makes you makes you better.
00:58:23.760 But ultimately, what what America needs, what America is founded on, what any free enterprise
00:58:29.400 society is founded on, whatever, whatever free democracy is founded upon is some sense
00:58:36.380 of ordered liberty, which means personal responsibility, because you cannot be free if you're not personally
00:58:41.640 responsible.
00:58:42.940 You cannot have a liberty minded society with a bunch of people that believe that somebody
00:58:50.960 else is responsible for them, you know, and the way that the Marxists and the socialists
00:58:56.600 eventually get you to believe in their policies is they first have to attack that cultural
00:59:01.400 underpinning of personal responsibility, because as soon as they've done that, as soon as they've
00:59:06.260 made you feel like the victim.
00:59:07.600 So why does AOC constantly hit the victimhood thing?
00:59:11.420 Right.
00:59:11.600 Because that culture, that's a cultural necessity for her to sell her policy ideas, for her to 1.00
00:59:17.820 sell her power to you. 0.75
00:59:19.540 She has to make you feel like a victim because only she can save you. 0.70
00:59:22.620 Right.
00:59:23.020 Because she has she she she pulls the strings of government. 1.00
00:59:26.240 And now she can she can make that other person be responsible for you because their wealth is 1.00
00:59:31.280 ill begotten.
00:59:32.020 You need and you need you need somebody to take it from them and give it to you.
00:59:35.640 So you see how important this is and you see why they attack it so much.
00:59:40.940 And we have to remember that the only people that are responsible for our own lives are
00:59:44.840 ourselves.
00:59:45.720 We have to remember a sense of we have to re inculcate a sense of duty into our citizenry,
00:59:50.660 a sense of duty to be on time, do the job, even if you hate it.
00:59:55.280 You know, that's a quote from from my book.
00:59:57.260 My staff always reminds me of it every time I complain about a meeting that I have.
01:00:01.400 It's very annoying.
01:00:02.100 And I so I had to make a rule in my office where they're not allowed to repeat my my
01:00:05.620 own words back to me.
01:00:08.280 Never quote me to me.
01:00:10.120 Yeah, don't don't do that.
01:00:11.660 You're fired.
01:00:13.400 And so but you get the idea, right?
01:00:17.540 Inculcating a sense of citizenry, I think, is is is the lost art.
01:00:21.400 And we need it now more than ever.
01:00:23.820 You're I mean, you're you were literally the polar opposite of this woman. 1.00
01:00:27.380 You and she have I probably think almost nothing in common.
01:00:31.520 I yeah, she's she's she's playing the victim because she thinks wrongly someone made fun 1.00
01:00:38.340 of her being a waitress, which, by the way, even if they did, who cares?
01:00:41.680 Get over it.
01:00:42.420 It's life.
01:00:43.140 People will mock you.
01:00:44.400 Grow up.
01:00:45.820 But she you know, so that's her.
01:00:47.740 And then reading your book, you do talk very openly about when you were hit by the IED
01:00:53.800 in Iraq.
01:00:54.660 You did five five tours of duty.
01:00:56.460 Mm hmm.
01:00:58.400 And and is it true that two of them were after your eye was blown up?
01:01:06.160 Yeah.
01:01:07.520 Yeah.
01:01:07.920 I mean, there were combat tours, but yeah.
01:01:09.960 So I did two tours in Iraq and then my third in Afghanistan.
01:01:12.780 I was hurt in 2012 and then went back to the Middle East in 2014.
01:01:18.280 Worked in throughout the Middle East, but mostly Bahrain.
01:01:21.280 And and then my last last tour and then South Korea.
01:01:26.820 But the very fact that you're playing it down.
01:01:30.320 Yeah.
01:01:30.840 Well, I thought the system pretty hard.
01:01:32.100 We're trying trying trying to stay in.
01:01:34.320 So I never I never wanted to end up where I'm at now.
01:01:37.660 We made my wife had always planned on at least 20 years in the Navy. 1.00
01:01:42.140 Mm hmm.
01:01:42.620 And then and then you moved to that lovely bastion called Congress and finally found the respect
01:01:47.660 you did.
01:01:48.080 Oh, wait.
01:01:48.520 No, no, that's not that's not how that works at all.
01:01:52.040 I mean, you went from one form of combat to another.
01:01:54.640 But, you know, they may be trying to steal your soul, but they don't want your eye.
01:02:00.520 You know, you talk about it.
01:02:01.780 So matter of fact, your time when the IED and and when you got blown up, are you kind of
01:02:07.760 over that?
01:02:08.400 Do you feel like you're over the trauma of that event?
01:02:12.040 Yeah.
01:02:12.900 Yeah, I do.
01:02:14.800 Yeah, I think I'm blessed in that respect.
01:02:18.620 I well, my wife would probably have a different answer for that. 1.00
01:02:22.240 But but I don't feel like I don't feel now like like I have any remnants of PTSD from it.
01:02:29.460 I think I did for a while.
01:02:32.260 But no, I don't I don't dwell on it very much.
01:02:37.680 I'm just I'm extremely grateful, frankly, for for what I can see.
01:02:43.280 It's an absolute miracle that I can see it all out of my left eye.
01:02:48.320 You know, there's a lot of adaptation that occurs.
01:02:50.140 People just see me as I am right now.
01:02:52.240 So they they wrongfully assume that there's there's not serious vision issues.
01:02:57.220 And it always strikes me as like how willing people are in politics to always make fun
01:03:05.420 of the eye.
01:03:06.280 It's like you don't make fun of anybody else's missing body parts.
01:03:09.560 Like if somebody loses a leg or or an arm, you notice that's like off limits.
01:03:14.860 But for some reason, the eye thing and this is, by the way, more again, this is this happens
01:03:19.900 more with conservatives.
01:03:21.000 Right. 0.96
01:03:21.440 Again, that that crazy right wing, that that crazy wing that we talked about that pretends 0.92
01:03:25.260 to be MAGA supporters, but they're not.
01:03:28.420 It just happens a lot more with them than it does the left.
01:03:30.820 I would just I would just point out.
01:03:33.260 They're mocking.
01:03:34.680 I mean, I remember the Pete Davidson thing on SNL, but that, of course, he's he's no Republican.
01:03:39.600 But what do you mean?
01:03:40.460 People are mocking your.
01:03:42.440 Oh, yeah. 0.67
01:03:42.740 They're vicious and disgusting about it, you know, so it's just kind of I guess I'm
01:03:48.520 noting it because what's interesting is that they they'll never do it to somebody without
01:03:52.280 a leg or an arm.
01:03:53.880 There's something about something about it's fine.
01:03:56.560 It's not.
01:03:57.040 But anyway, maybe the other thing is, I will say the eye patch is kind of cool.
01:04:02.680 It could be a form of envy, you know, like there's something that it kind of takes you
01:04:06.260 to the next level of badass when you have an eye patch.
01:04:08.740 Well, well, I think I think I would say that a lot of these Groypers are probably in cells. 1.00
01:04:15.240 So, yeah, they might be envious.
01:04:17.060 Well, to your original question.
01:04:18.580 No, I which was a serious one.
01:04:21.560 Yeah, I'm blessed to feel like like I've gotten over it.
01:04:24.860 But, you know, I'm still I'm still constantly getting fitted for different glasses so I can
01:04:29.720 see this computer that I'm looking at right now properly because I have a I have a cataract
01:04:34.660 in my eye that can't be fixed.
01:04:36.640 I have I have an iris that cannot open and close.
01:04:39.820 So like I can't be outside in the sun without sunglasses.
01:04:43.320 When I take out my contact, which only one company makes properly in the world, you know,
01:04:49.220 I've got to wear the lenses that are a quarter inch thick to see anything at all.
01:04:53.800 So and then, you know, I've got like no, no field of view or depth perception.
01:04:58.600 So it's a it just takes adaptation.
01:05:01.480 But but I've never I've always felt a real strong community support.
01:05:08.080 The SEAL teams are very tightly knit and like that.
01:05:10.920 And, you know, so it's I don't dwell on it.
01:05:16.420 Well, I know you you wrote in your book you chose not to be bitter.
01:05:19.540 And it is a choice.
01:05:20.520 A hundred percent.
01:05:21.280 I can I can I haven't been through anything like what you've been through, but I I know
01:05:26.620 grief and loss and pain.
01:05:29.160 And I do think that there's a moment where you can feel it creeping up inside your throat
01:05:33.400 bitterness and you do have to make a choice whether you're going to surrender to that
01:05:37.480 and or whether you're going to reject it and not shove it back down, but just get it
01:05:43.020 out of you.
01:05:43.400 Just get just reject it.
01:05:44.860 You know, you can do that.
01:05:46.220 It's it's a conscious choice.
01:05:47.920 And you you've had to do it repeatedly.
01:05:50.400 I mean, you you had the IED attack and you write very openly and heart wrenchingly about
01:05:56.540 the loss of your mom when you were only 10.
01:05:59.500 I can tell you, as the mother of three children, that was rough just to read.
01:06:04.080 I can't imagine.
01:06:05.180 I mean, she she died of breast cancer when you were just a little boy.
01:06:09.280 And I was reading, you know, the following excerpt.
01:06:13.000 I just want the audience to know you, you write because you knew she was dying.
01:06:16.080 It was a five year process.
01:06:17.840 And you write going from kindergarten to fourth grade, knowing that your mother's dying, that
01:06:22.340 the center of a small boy's world is collapsing is an experience I wouldn't wish on anyone.
01:06:27.760 But from this grief came learning.
01:06:29.600 I got to experience the nature of a true hero.
01:06:33.600 And the example she set was the most powerful.
01:06:37.100 I'm going to cry just reading this a fortifying and selfless thing I have ever seen, including
01:06:43.640 in combat.
01:06:46.060 That is so beautiful.
01:06:47.180 And I wonder if you're how your mom would feel if she could read that down.
01:06:50.620 Yeah, well, I mean, I'd like to think that she that she does and she feels that, you know,
01:06:57.100 that she that she's still with me as sort of a guardian angel.
01:06:59.940 I've always believed that.
01:07:02.160 And I meant every word, you know, I'm not I'm not restructuring history to, you know,
01:07:07.280 for the sake of those those words.
01:07:10.440 That really was her.
01:07:13.500 I never and if there was ever any self-pity, I never noticed it.
01:07:18.520 You know, I know it was she never exposed it to us.
01:07:21.880 And it was she was really a model to look to look up to.
01:07:27.580 And I do think that's that's probably where I get that mindset from and a sense of perspective
01:07:34.440 from the other thing I write about there is, OK, when things are, you know, because I was
01:07:39.840 basically unable to move in a hospital bed.
01:07:43.980 You're like, this is a pretty bad situation right now.
01:07:46.220 I'm blind.
01:07:46.940 Doctors don't think I'll I'll see again.
01:07:49.680 And I would continue to be blind for weeks until some miracle surgeries.
01:07:54.300 But it's like, well, you know, you know who also had some hardships like my own mom.
01:07:59.300 And she got through it until the very end.
01:08:02.880 And so suck it up. 0.97
01:08:05.000 Right.
01:08:05.680 And I think, you know, and that's you have to tell yourself that it's, you know, and it
01:08:10.580 always feels better to be a victim.
01:08:12.080 It always feels better to be better and to blame somebody else for it.
01:08:15.300 And again, easily easy to blame somebody, somebody else for for, you know, you know,
01:08:21.840 the decisions I made that day that I got blown up on or other people's decisions that led
01:08:28.100 us to that to that moment.
01:08:29.640 I, I really could make arguments for a lot of blame to go around.
01:08:34.540 Yeah.
01:08:35.040 But then what but this and I would it would be rational arguments, by the way, but but
01:08:40.980 there's kind of no point to it.
01:08:42.780 Like there's it doesn't get you anywhere.
01:08:45.620 And it's very disempowering.
01:08:47.640 It's extremely disempowering.
01:08:49.120 Um, and there's way too much of that right now.
01:08:52.420 Uh, we it's it's almost the default position for us in our politics these days.
01:08:57.080 And we just have to stop.
01:08:58.440 We have to make a conscious decision to stop.
01:09:00.740 Um, it's it's it's really tearing our country apart.
01:09:04.460 Do you think you'd be a Navy SEAL if your mom hadn't died?
01:09:10.940 Uh, probably maybe.
01:09:13.040 I mean, it's hard.
01:09:13.620 It's hard.
01:09:14.000 It's hard to know.
01:09:14.680 Um, if you, if you mess with the, uh, with the strands of time, well, the butterfly effect,
01:09:20.680 what, what often happens, but, um, I think so, you know, the it's maybe I would have been
01:09:27.220 a better SEAL, honestly, I don't know.
01:09:30.020 Um, but, uh, you know, I, yeah, I kind of got the, the idea came as I got into a book.
01:09:36.500 I was like 10 or 11, 12.
01:09:38.400 I don't remember exactly how old I was, but, um, and I just never let go of that dream.
01:09:43.140 So having my mom around just might've, might've made it easier.
01:09:47.080 I don't know.
01:09:48.400 So what was harder hell week or becoming a member of Congress and trying to get anything
01:09:53.660 done?
01:09:55.760 Oh, I think Congress is, is much harder.
01:09:58.420 Um, it's, it's, uh, obviously in a totally different way.
01:10:03.100 Uh, but you know, it's, um, there's a much bigger weight up here in Congress.
01:10:09.600 I mean, it's, uh, you know, it's the, in, in hell week, you're, you know, you're, you're
01:10:16.820 focused on, on that task at hand.
01:10:19.820 It's not, it's not easy.
01:10:21.640 Um, but, uh, there's, there's a lot at stake up here.
01:10:26.940 Um, it's important.
01:10:28.580 And, uh, there's a lot of anger and division in the country right now.
01:10:33.340 Um, and you've got to walk that balance the best you can.
01:10:37.700 So it's, uh, it's, but it's worth it, right?
01:10:41.780 Hard, hard things are worth it.
01:10:43.600 You know, there's, there's not a lot of, there's not a lot of good fulfilling things out there
01:10:47.960 that are easy.
01:10:49.180 Um, that's, that's sort of another lesson that I like to promote, which is it again, it
01:10:53.540 kind of, it's a, it's a deeper lesson behind when I say do something difficult and challenging
01:10:58.340 and hard, um, because no good thing comes easily and, uh, it would be good to remind
01:11:04.920 ourselves of that.
01:11:07.220 So last question, you are very young, very young, but you have finally made it over the
01:11:12.760 age at which one may become president in the United States.
01:11:16.780 You're 36, right?
01:11:18.720 Mm-hmm.
01:11:19.640 Okay.
01:11:20.000 So you made it past 35.
01:11:21.260 Congratulations.
01:11:22.260 Um, and so that I'm sure a lot of people are wondering, is that, is that an aspiration?
01:11:28.340 Either in 2024 or beyond, because you are super popular, uh, amongst Republicans and I think
01:11:35.360 amongst reasonable liberals, they get, they're open-minded to you.
01:11:40.340 Yeah, maybe no time soon.
01:11:42.640 I'll say that.
01:11:44.040 Um, you know, I've got, I mean, I'm, I am, as you noted, but I'm pretty young, um, and I've
01:11:50.280 got plenty of time.
01:11:51.220 So I, I'm, I'm, I'm definitely not in a hurry to, to move on to something I'm, it's, I'm
01:11:57.660 focused on this job.
01:11:58.680 I mean, I'm focused on my second term, you know, um, and, and getting on the committees
01:12:02.880 I want and, uh, and working for the district right now.
01:12:06.100 So, uh, no, no plans anytime soon.
01:12:10.540 You're, you're a good representative in many ways for the city of Houston and the people
01:12:14.840 who live there.
01:12:15.420 They always speak sense.
01:12:17.820 Houstonians are sensible people.
01:12:19.600 If I, if I weren't born in the Northeast with all my connections here, I would move there 1.00
01:12:24.280 in a heartbeat.
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01:12:50.600 We've got Cheryl Atkinson. 1.00
01:12:53.340 She, you know, is at CBS for most of her career at CNN for a time as well.
01:12:57.100 And she is now with Sinclair Broadcasting.
01:12:59.380 She has been exposing the media and its tactics and it's not just bias.
01:13:05.420 It certainly is bias, but it's also their connection with the elites and the way they
01:13:09.280 shove agenda into the news.
01:13:11.320 It's a really smart take her latest book and her, her conversation around it on the problems
01:13:17.460 that have gotten us into this mess in part as a country and certainly as, uh, as the
01:13:21.700 business of journalism goes.
01:13:23.060 And we're going to talk about how they've come for her.
01:13:25.900 I mean, they have tried to totally discredit her as some sort of a kook. 0.99
01:13:29.880 You know how that, that's how it goes, especially as a woman, they, you know, nuts or sluts. 1.00
01:13:33.740 That's kind of how they try to take you down. 1.00
01:13:35.460 Well, they haven't said that Cheryl's a slut. 1.00
01:13:37.480 She's a happily married woman. 0.93
01:13:38.780 I don't think anybody's made that accusation.
01:13:41.220 Um, but yeah, they try to say she's a kook now and she's not. 1.00
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