The Megyn Kelly Show - REVEALED： All the Texts About Fani Willis and Nathan Wade Relationship Between Lawyer and Witness, with Phil Holloway ｜ Ep. 733

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00:00:30.680 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show,

00:00:32.540 live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.220 Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:43.920 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.580 We have gotten our hands on the texts.

00:00:48.920 The admissions by Nathan Wade's friend and former lawyer

00:00:52.360 that they did not want you to see.

00:00:55.020 We're going to get to that in one second.

00:00:56.520 This morning, we will dissect the mind-blowing hearing

00:00:59.260 in Fulton County that took place Tuesday afternoon

00:01:01.520 and bring you exclusive information about this case.

00:01:05.260 As I told you yesterday, that hearing could blow up one of the four criminal cases

00:01:10.480 against former President Donald Trump.

00:01:12.800 At the heart of it all, a man named Terrence Bradley.

00:01:16.800 He's the one-time law partner, divorce attorney, and friend of special prosecutor Nathan Wade.

00:01:23.400 He did not want to be there yesterday, and he made that abundantly clear

00:01:27.900 as he obfuscated and did a whole lot of not recalling things.

00:01:34.580 You don't recall?

00:01:35.900 No.

00:01:36.420 I don't recall.

00:01:37.520 I would say it was the one, but I don't recall.

00:01:42.120 Yes, that's speculation on my part, yes.

00:01:46.180 I don't recall, but why I thought that it started at that time,

00:01:52.500 I don't know why I didn't say I don't know.

00:01:55.340 I don't recall.

00:01:56.880 I mentioned earlier that I speculated on some things.

00:02:06.160 I mean, it was downright uncomfortable, I believe,

00:02:08.960 and you'll hear me say this throughout the program, that he lied.

00:02:11.480 I believe he lied repeatedly, that's my opinion, about his faulty memory.

00:02:17.440 Now, if you're reading CNN today, they're going to tell you, quote,

00:02:20.420 A Georgia lawyer who had been billed as a star witness in the effort to disqualify Fulton County DA Fannie Willis

00:02:26.620 did not deliver damaging testimony Tuesday on her romantic relationship with prosecutor Nathan Wade. 0.98

00:02:34.340 Oh, CNN, dumb or dishonest, take your pick. 0.98

00:02:39.660 The article goes on to say, quote, 0.99

00:02:41.700 Most notably, he said he did not know when the relationship began

00:02:45.680 and whether it began after Willis hired Wade to spearhead the prosecution of Donald Trump and his allies.

00:02:53.420 Bradley said he was speculating about the timeline, end quote.

00:02:57.900 So sit back and listen as we do the hard work for them and, more importantly, for you.

00:03:04.760 Because when you dig into what was actually said, what wasn't said,

00:03:08.460 and take a look at the evidence that went into the court record yesterday,

00:03:12.300 a lot more was revealed than you would have caught from CNN.

00:03:18.200 Key to this story are the texts that Mr. Bradley and defense attorney Ashley Merchant

00:03:24.940 exchanged over several months.

00:03:28.620 Texts that prove Terrence Bradley told attorney Merchant,

00:03:34.400 counsel for the defendant, Michael Roman, this is a Trump co-defendant,

00:03:37.920 that the DA, Fannie Willis, and the special prosecutor, Nathan Wade,

00:03:42.300 had been having an affair and that it began prior to Ms. Willis hiring Nathan Wade to prosecute Trump.

00:03:50.020 Something both Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade denied under oath.

00:03:55.560 Nathan Wade was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by the taxpayers in Fulton County.

00:04:01.820 Ms. Willis was the one doling out the checks as he wined and dined her

00:04:06.700 and took her on lavish vacations around the world.

00:04:10.560 But when Terrence Bradley, again, former attorney and friend, Nathan Wade,

00:04:16.020 took the stand under oath after having given it all up to Ashley Merchant by text,

00:04:20.840 he seemingly forgot it all.

00:04:24.400 The man might want to check with the doctor because he's clearly having some early onset dementia.

00:04:29.360 If even one of his answers yesterday was true.

00:04:32.760 Suddenly, he decided everything he had provided to Ms. Merchant was just, what's the word, speculation.

00:04:43.220 When you told me that their relationship started when she left the DA's office and was a judge in South Fulton,

00:04:50.580 where did you obtain that knowledge from?

00:04:59.800 It was, I was speculating.

00:05:04.340 I didn't have a,

00:05:06.580 No one told me I was speculating.

00:05:19.520 No one told you that?

00:05:20.800 No one told me that.

00:05:21.880 Was this speculation when you told me that?

00:05:24.520 Was that based on things that had been told to you and things that you had witnessed?

00:05:28.300 I never witnessed anything.

00:05:32.280 So, you know, it was speculation.

00:05:37.500 I can't tell you anything specific.

00:05:42.860 Is there anywhere in here that indicates that she didn't have knowledge?

00:05:46.300 No.

00:05:47.840 These speaking objections are clearly coaching witnesses.

00:05:50.340 When I ask a question, Mr. Bradley is looking at Mr. Wade and his lawyer to wait for them to object.

00:05:55.160 And I never looked at Mr. Wade or his attorneys.

00:05:59.540 That's not as good as you.

00:06:00.980 As you just heard, Nathan Wade was in that courtroom yesterday as his one-time friend and law partner was on the stand.

00:06:09.300 Wade had tried to stop it from happening at all, but the judge ruled this testimony must go forward

00:06:14.220 and that Terrence Bradley had to testify about the Wade-Willis romance and what Terrence Bradley knew about it.

00:06:21.260 The judge listened to him in camera in his chambers on Monday and decided the claims that this was all protected by attorney-client privilege were nonsense.

00:06:30.100 These guys were friends and law partners for years before he actually started to help Nathan Wade with the divorce.

00:06:37.340 None of those conversations would be privileged.

00:06:39.740 Not about this.

00:06:40.520 And the judge ruled he had to talk about it.

00:06:42.920 And this was the out he chose.

00:06:45.260 Can't remember.

00:06:46.340 I want you to know these texts that he was being queried about.

00:06:50.180 They happened last month.

00:06:52.600 This wasn't 10 years ago.

00:06:55.040 He just had these exchanges literally weeks ago.

00:06:58.980 All right.

00:06:59.620 I want you to keep all of what you just heard in mind as our show brings you this next bit of information courtesy of our first guest, Phil Holloway.

00:07:08.160 He's an attorney down in Cobb County in this area.

00:07:12.540 He knows a lot of these players and he got his hands on some of the actual texts.

00:07:17.860 So far, we've only heard the lawyers raise the substance in questions, show them to the witnesses, and then hear some answers.

00:07:26.200 No one has shown us the actual text messages between Ashley Merchant and Terrence Bradley.

00:07:32.720 But Phil Holloway got his hands on some of them and is sharing them with us exclusively.

00:07:40.640 In one exchange about Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade's relationship, look at this.

00:07:45.360 Ashley Merchant says, like, just date.

00:07:49.260 Don't hire him.

00:07:51.100 Do you think it started before she hired him?

00:07:53.840 Terrence Bradley writes back, absolutely.

00:07:56.440 It started when she left the DA's office and was judge in South Fulton.

00:08:01.780 FYI, folks, this is MK talking.

00:08:03.820 She became a judge in South Fulton in 2019.

00:08:06.360 OK, back to the text.

00:08:08.560 Ashley thumbs up that answer.

00:08:10.800 And then Terrence Bradley adds, they met at the municipal court CLE conference.

00:08:16.680 Ashley responds, that's what I figured when he was married.

00:08:20.380 There's no doubt in his mind.

00:08:22.120 I'm looking at it again.

00:08:23.700 Do you think it started before she hired him?

00:08:26.720 Absolutely.

00:08:28.020 And then he adds, it started when she left the DA's office.

00:08:31.480 By the way, that was 2018.

00:08:32.820 And for a period of months, she went in a private practice.

00:08:34.760 Then she was elevated to judge in 2019.

00:08:37.360 Then in 2020, she became the DA.

00:08:39.500 She'd been in the DA's office as an underling for years.

00:08:41.980 OK, so when she left the DA's office was 18.

00:08:44.320 When she was judge in South Fulton was 19.

00:08:46.880 And he says, in response to, do you think it started before she hired him?

00:08:50.820 Absolutely.

00:08:51.560 It started when?

00:08:52.700 He adds.

00:08:53.320 He fills in.

00:08:54.880 He knows.

00:08:57.140 He gives the specifics.

00:08:59.040 When she left the DA's office and was judge in South Fulton.

00:09:02.240 Oh, and by the way, let me tell you exactly where they met.

00:09:04.880 It was at the municipal court CLE conference.

00:09:08.440 Then we go on.

00:09:10.240 January 5th.

00:09:11.620 Days before Ms. Merchant filed her bombshell motion to disqualify both of these guys, Willis

00:09:17.320 and Wade, from the case against the former president of the United States.

00:09:22.120 Ashley Merchant texts Terrence Bradley.

00:09:24.540 Look at this.

00:09:25.300 For those of you listening, go to youtube.com slash Megan Kelly.

00:09:28.120 You can see it all.

00:09:29.700 She texts Terrence Bradley.

00:09:33.740 Is this accurate?

00:09:34.920 She's getting ready to file the motion and she's clearly offering him a line from it.

00:09:38.560 Is this accurate?

00:09:39.380 Upon information and belief, Willis and Wade met while both were serving as magistrate judges

00:09:45.960 and began a romantic relationship at that time.

00:09:49.480 Terrence responds, no, municipal court, municipal court.

00:09:54.140 His correction was they were municipal court judges, not magistrate judges, which is a different

00:10:00.160 thing entirely.

00:10:00.860 He's correcting only the role they had while on the bench, not the rest of this, where

00:10:06.760 she talks about Willis and Wade met and began a romantic relationship at that time.

00:10:14.320 He does not correct that.

00:10:16.560 Just the court that she said they were sitting on.

00:10:19.840 And she did make his correction and she got it right when she filed her motion.

00:10:24.580 I'm not done.

00:10:26.200 The two also texted about that legal filing she was about to drop.

00:10:30.320 It was a bombshell filing.

00:10:31.980 This is Ashley Merchant's first notice to us all that these two have been having an affair. 0.65

00:10:36.460 There are alleged kickbacks.

00:10:37.780 They need to be disqualified.

00:10:38.880 This whole thing, which set off an absolute firestorm for the entire case from the beginning

00:10:45.660 of January.

00:10:46.700 They also texted about the filing and Terrence Bradley directed Ashley Merchant to add him

00:10:52.900 into a footnote footnote in her brief about the amount of money he made from the DA's offices.

00:11:00.740 He worked for the DA's office under contract for a period of time doing what we understand was taint

00:11:07.000 reviews, like where the DA's office gets a bunch of privileged documents on a case and the DA prosecuting the case can't review it.

00:11:15.360 So you get like a taint squad to make sure what gets filed to the DA is, is viewable properly

00:11:21.060 by her, whatever.

00:11:22.280 He was hired by the DA's office for a period of time by contract.

00:11:25.440 And he's saying, add me back in.

00:11:28.140 You should add me back into your footnote on that because I made some money from the DA's

00:11:31.720 office.

00:11:32.400 Ashley responds to him.

00:11:33.840 I took you out.

00:11:35.100 I can add that back.

00:11:36.660 Good point.

00:11:38.040 Terrence writes, yes, add it back.

00:11:40.380 Ashley, anything else?

00:11:42.560 Anything that isn't accurate?

00:11:44.740 And Terrence Bradley responds, looks good.

00:11:49.340 Ashley Merchant hearts that.

00:11:51.660 She then asks him, how do you think they will respond?

00:11:55.440 I'm trying to anticipate.

00:11:57.580 And we know from the testimony we heard in court and Ashley Merchant cross-examining him,

00:12:04.260 he said, I think they will deny it.

00:12:07.320 He said, I don't think they'll go after you.

00:12:08.780 I think they will deny it.

00:12:10.560 That's apparently on the next page of texts.

00:12:12.540 Now, I want you to know, looking at these texts, and I've got them in front of me, this

00:12:18.360 was all happening at the same time.

00:12:21.340 Like, we don't have a date on the third text, but the first two, January 5th at around 11.56

00:12:28.540 a.m.

00:12:29.460 So right before noon.

00:12:30.520 So what we have here is her saying, do you think it started before she hired him?

00:12:35.500 Absolutely.

00:12:36.120 Here's exactly when it started.

00:12:37.540 That's what I figured.

00:12:38.780 Then she says right, right, right away.

00:12:41.060 Is this accurate?

00:12:42.220 On information and belief, they met while both were serving as magistrate judges and began a romantic

00:12:45.960 relationship at that time.

00:12:47.120 He corrects her.

00:12:48.080 Municipal court.

00:12:49.120 She says, thanks.

00:12:50.500 Then he tells her, add me to that footnote.

00:12:52.240 And she says, good point, I will.

00:12:55.100 And then she says, as a follow-up, anything else, anything else that isn't accurate?

00:13:00.540 And he says, looks good.

00:13:02.540 He doesn't say, yeah, there's a lot.

00:13:05.060 Yeah.

00:13:05.740 I don't know.

00:13:06.840 Pick your poison.

00:13:08.080 He's already given up the farm in these first two texts.

00:13:10.360 But he did not say anything is inaccurate, other than which court they were sitting on when

00:13:16.020 they met.

00:13:16.620 He says, looks good.

00:13:18.500 And she hearts it.

00:13:20.820 And then she says, how do you think they'll respond?

00:13:22.280 I'm trying to anticipate.

00:13:23.220 And we know from the cross-examination that he responded to that text by saying, I think

00:13:27.660 they will deny it.

00:13:29.600 That's where we are.

00:13:32.220 Now, take a listen here.

00:13:34.500 As former President Donald Trump's lawyer, Sadow, because all the lawyers, Ashley Merchant

00:13:40.820 got a chance to question Terrence Bradley.

00:13:43.540 Sadow did.

00:13:44.620 Gillum.

00:13:44.960 All these different lawyers got a bite at the apple because there are, you know, more

00:13:50.200 than a dozen defendants in this case.

00:13:51.960 And they each get a chance to question, though the judge shut down, you know, repetitive

00:13:56.740 questioning.

00:13:57.420 OK, so here's Trump's lawyer, Sadow, questioning Bradley.

00:14:03.060 After the word absolutely, you, on your own, said it started when she left the DA's office

00:14:11.500 and was judge in South Fulton.

00:14:14.060 They met at the municipal court CLE conference.

00:14:18.500 That's what you said, correct?

00:14:20.260 That is correct.

00:14:21.060 So you, on your own, came up with the whole notion that it started when she left the DA's

00:14:28.380 office and was judge in South Fulton.

00:14:31.240 That's, according to you, that's speculation on your part, correct?

00:14:36.140 Yes.

00:14:36.640 Overruled.

00:14:37.240 Answer the question, Mr. Bradley.

00:14:39.520 Yes, that's, that's speculation on my part.

00:14:42.820 Yes.

00:14:43.880 Why would you speculate that that's when they started the relationship?

00:14:49.860 What would cause you to put that down as speculation?

00:14:54.700 I don't recall, but why I thought that it started at that time.

00:15:00.800 Why would you speculate when she was asking you a direct question about when the relationship

00:15:08.340 started?

00:15:09.800 I have no answer for that.

00:15:11.980 But if you didn't know, and you were asked specifically as this exhibit shows, you can

00:15:20.000 explain why you wouldn't say, I don't know.

00:15:23.440 I don't know why I didn't say, I don't know.

00:15:26.240 You say, after in South Fulton, they met at the Municipal Court CLE Conference, right?

00:15:36.240 Yes, that's correct.

00:15:39.280 And then Ms. Merchant says, that's what I figured when he was married.

00:15:44.680 Is this accurate?

00:15:46.860 Upon information and belief, Willis and Wade met while both were serving as magistrate

00:15:54.600 judges and began a romantic relationship at that time.

00:15:58.900 You see, that's what she said, right?

00:16:00.660 Yes, that was in the test.

00:16:02.280 You don't say, I don't know.

00:16:04.920 You simply correct her by saying, no, Municipal Court.

00:16:08.860 So I was answering the question of, it was a compound question, and I was answering the

00:16:17.720 question of, she wrote magistrate court, and I said, no, Municipal Court.

00:16:28.780 Okay.

00:16:30.080 What's more, the court camera did not appear to pick up something very interesting, but the

00:16:35.920 camera of Fox News did.

00:16:38.560 In this clip we're about to play for you, it appears that Terrence Bradley mutters, oh,

00:16:44.780 dang, to himself.

00:16:46.760 That's how it sounds.

00:16:47.920 I will tell you, could have been someone else whose mic was hot.

00:16:51.480 It appears to be him muttering, oh, dang, when Terrence Bradley is presented with potentially

00:16:58.620 damning texts about the Willis-Wade relationship.

00:17:02.740 Watch. 0.98

00:17:02.980 The first page starts off by saying, Miss Merchant, like just date, don't hire him.

00:17:12.660 Do you think it started before she hired him?

00:17:16.360 You see that?

00:17:27.220 Yes, I see it.

00:17:28.580 Yes.

00:17:28.780 He's being shown the text exchange that reads, Ashley, just like date, don't hire him.

00:17:36.940 Do you think it started before she hired him?

00:17:38.700 And Terrence writing back, absolutely.

00:17:40.900 It started when she left the DA's office and was judge in South Fulton.

00:17:44.020 Ashley thumbs up that one. 0.99

00:17:45.140 And Terrence also adds, they met at the Municipal Court CLE conference.

00:17:48.840 Ashley responds, that's what I figured when he was married.

00:17:50.800 Okay, we went through it.

00:17:51.520 Well, if it wasn't Terrence Bradley saying, dang, it was definitely somebody affiliated with

00:17:57.120 the state because it certainly wasn't a defense lawyer saying, shoot, that's bad.

00:18:02.780 I suppose it could have been one saying, dang, we nailed it.

00:18:05.440 This is one of those smoking gun moments that didn't happen, according to CNN.

00:18:08.880 Now, it's also important to note that it appears someone in the Wade Willis sphere may have gotten

00:18:18.860 to Terrence Bradley before he testified.

00:18:21.740 What else explains the complete 180 between the texts and the on-stand testimony?

00:18:29.260 Perhaps he was threatened if he spilled the beans on what he knows.

00:18:34.760 There were suggestions that that someone may be a man named Gabe Banks.

00:18:41.480 Mr. Banks is reportedly a close friend of Nathan Wade's.

00:18:45.560 Terrence Bradley admits that they spoke to one another.

00:18:49.700 And Banks previously told the judge in this case that he was concerned Terrence Bradley might be,

00:18:55.060 quote, emotional and violating attorney-client privilege.

00:18:59.900 So did Gabe Banks make a phone call to Terrence Bradley saying,

00:19:05.900 sure would be an unfortunate thing if you violate that privilege, Mr. Bradley.

00:19:10.680 Who knows what could happen?

00:19:12.280 We don't know, but we'll play you the soundbite in which this issue came up.

00:19:17.240 By the way, Gabe Banks's wife is the chief of staff to Fannie Willis.

00:19:25.060 You can't make it up.

00:19:28.540 Joining me now, Phil Holloway.

00:19:30.460 He's the founder of Holloway Law Group in Cobb County, Georgia.

00:19:33.020 Phil, welcome back to the show.

00:19:35.060 These are multiple bombshells here.

00:19:38.060 The number of texts that we're now looking at firsthand, the cross-examination.

00:19:43.120 And yesterday when we spoke, we were questioning whether when Terrence Bradley got on the stand,

00:19:48.940 he would own the texts and just be honest about what he wrote and why,

00:19:54.040 or whether he would just continue to try to claim privilege on the stand.

00:19:59.620 He did not own the texts.

00:20:01.540 He did not claim privilege.

00:20:03.300 He just miraculously forgot everything, which I suppose he saw as a way out.

00:20:10.160 What did you make of it?

00:20:10.960 Well, you know, it's obvious he didn't want to be there.

00:20:14.220 And as it turned out, and we've been talking about this now for several days,

00:20:17.920 the text messages are, in fact, the star witness, if you will, because the text messages,

00:20:23.460 you know, when we text with our friends and family and colleagues,

00:20:26.780 we're not under the lights of a courtroom.

00:20:30.560 We're not on the world stage testifying under oath about a matter of very, very high public interest.

00:20:37.540 And so we might be more free to express what we really think.

00:20:42.900 But when you're in court and you've got lots of different things to think about,

00:20:47.740 it might make you, I don't know, maybe forget things,

00:20:51.260 or it might make you be less interested in talking about the subject matter.

00:20:56.520 And so the text messages are used in Georgia.

00:20:59.100 I want to explain so everybody understands.

00:21:02.560 The text messages are what we call a prior inconsistent statement.

00:21:06.720 And under the law, when a witness says something in court and they've said something differently,

00:21:12.440 the judge or the jury, if it's a jury trial,

00:21:14.820 they're entitled to hear that the witness has said one thing and then now saying another.

00:21:20.300 And so that's called impeachment by a prior inconsistent statement.

00:21:24.340 But here's the thing.

00:21:25.380 In Georgia, a prior inconsistent statement itself is substantive evidence.

00:21:31.500 So this text message that you have been talking about, this is now just like a photograph of a crime scene.

00:21:38.040 It is something the judge can use upon which to base any rulings in the case.

00:21:42.800 If the judge has observed the testimony and saw the demeanor of the witness and said,

00:21:47.820 look, I don't think that he was necessarily telling everything that he knew.

00:21:53.460 I think maybe the text messages are more accurate.

00:21:56.180 The judge can use that.

00:21:57.400 If a witness doesn't remember, if a witness is claiming that he may have been speculating,

00:22:04.460 if he's saying things that are different from what he said before,

00:22:07.640 the judge can discount what he hears in the courtroom and go with the prior inconsistent statement.

00:22:14.200 And so this is something that we will see argued on Friday when we have closing arguments.

00:22:19.400 The lawyers are going to make an argument very similar to what you said so well just now in your opening.

00:22:25.820 These text messages show that Fonnie Willis and Nathan Wade did, in fact, have a romantic affair

00:22:35.600 consistent with the time frame testified to by Robin Yerney.

00:22:40.120 And, of course, we still have the corroboration of the cell phone data.

00:22:44.220 So all of this, when you put it together, can be viewed and potentially will be viewed by this judge

00:22:50.180 as a fraud having been perpetrated on this court.

00:22:54.660 And if that's the way he rules, then it probably lights out for Fonnie Willis and her prosecution team.

00:23:02.180 The prosecution of the Trump-RICO case will be the least of her concerns if the judge rules that way.

00:23:08.580 And now, because of these text messages, he has something solid to hang his hat on if that's how he wants to rule.

00:23:15.180 So it's—I completely agree with everything you just said.

00:23:20.520 I want to spend some time on his absurd attempts to change the meanings of these texts, the meaning of these texts.

00:23:29.340 And, by the way, the judge—I watched the whole thing throughout—as he was getting pummeled, uncrossed—

00:23:36.900 would eventually say, I get it.

00:23:39.500 He'd say to the defense lawyers, I got it.

00:23:41.800 You can move on.

00:23:42.580 Like, this is not some left-wing jury in heavily Democratic Fulton County, which I think went 72 percent for Joe Biden.

00:23:51.040 This is a—I think he's a registered Republican.

00:23:54.300 He definitely was in the Federalist Society.

00:23:56.120 He was appointed to this position when there was a vacancy by a Republican governor.

00:23:59.780 And I don't think this guy is a partisan hack.

00:24:02.760 He listened.

00:24:03.700 And when he saw the point and when we all were at the point of pulling our hair out after a million—I don't know.

00:24:09.460 I don't remember.

00:24:10.280 I don't recall.

00:24:10.920 I don't recall literally things that he wrote weeks ago.

00:24:13.880 The judge would say, I got it.

00:24:16.240 You can move on.

00:24:16.940 So I just—I don't think the judge was buying it.

00:24:18.740 Did you?

00:24:18.940 No, I agree.

00:24:20.500 The judge understands what the parties are trying to say because, look, they've been saying this to the judge in the courtroom,

00:24:28.440 but they also communicate with the court unofficially or through emails and things like that.

00:24:35.480 So the court knows where they're going.

00:24:37.640 And once you get one or two or three of these prior inconsistent statements, the judge, he gets it.

00:24:44.640 Like you just said, and now it's substantive evidence in the case.

00:24:47.420 He just didn't feel yesterday that there was a need to kick a dead horse.

00:24:51.760 In other words, you've made your point.

00:24:53.600 I get it.

00:24:54.240 I know he said something different in the past.

00:24:56.700 I don't want to be here all day.

00:24:58.440 And so I think we did get some of that from him.

00:25:00.560 He didn't want to plow old ground all over again.

00:25:03.200 So he was able to observe how the witness was testifying and compare it to what was said in these exhibits that were used in court yesterday.

00:25:12.580 And I think that this issue was driven home.

00:25:17.660 So despite the fact that the witness did not give the bombshell testimony from the witness stand, we still got it.

00:25:25.400 We still got that bombshell information because there was a paper trail or, in this case, an electronic text trail that showed that he had made different statements in the past.

00:25:37.080 Here is a cross-examination of, this is Ashley Merchant trying to get to the one text where he said, looks good, right?

00:25:48.500 That she had sent him the draft motion to disqualify Wade and Willis.

00:25:52.060 And he said, yeah, there's that one change you should make about the judge, like the court that they were on.

00:25:59.720 And then he said, you should add me to this footnote.

00:26:02.020 Because there's a footnote in her brief that speaks about Wade's business partners, his law partners, and any money they made from Fannie Willis.

00:26:09.960 And when Terrence Bradley was Nathan Wade's business partner, his law partner, he made that money.

00:26:14.740 That's some $74,000, I guess, as a taint lawyer, as I mentioned.

00:26:18.860 Anyway, it appears that Terrence Bradley was saying to Ashley Merchant when she was drafting her motion, better put me back in there.

00:26:25.200 So other than that, she said, okay, good point.

00:26:28.300 And she said, anything else, anything that isn't accurate.

00:26:30.740 And he wrote back, looks good.

00:26:32.780 And now on the stand, he doesn't remember anything about that.

00:26:36.420 He doesn't remember.

00:26:37.980 And he's really just saying, looks good about the footnote and definitely not about the whole brief.

00:26:44.900 He's wiggle, wiggle, wiggle.

00:26:46.200 And she tried to nail him down, raising, here's Ashley Merchant and then defense attorney Gillum, who points out the name of the motion that had been sent to a friend of Nathan Wade, former law partner of Nathan Wade's, former lawyer for Nathan Wade, who still considers himself a friend of Nathan Wade.

00:27:06.120 You've got the defense lawyers contacting you about a motion to disqualify Nathan Wade and Fannie Willis from this case.

00:27:15.420 And this is what you, like, this is the text exchange?

00:27:18.720 Watch.

00:27:19.480 It's not 11.

00:27:20.620 Then I asked you if everything was accurate and you said, looks good.

00:27:23.000 Correct.

00:27:27.040 Correct.

00:27:28.140 I recall you asking that, but the looks good was applying to the accuracy of the 74,000.

00:27:38.100 That's it.

00:27:39.220 You didn't point anything else out that you found inaccurate in that motion, though, correct?

00:27:43.720 No, I did not.

00:27:44.340 Well, let's look at the title of the motion that she sent you, the defendant Michael Roman's motion to dismiss grand jury indictment as fatally defective and motion to disqualify the district attorney, her office, and the special prosecutor from further prosecuting this matter.

00:28:03.080 Do you remember seeing that in the draft that you read and reviewed?

00:28:07.500 Yes.

00:28:07.700 And it wasn't anything in the title that threw you off.

00:28:10.560 Pretty straightforward-speaking title, isn't it?

00:28:14.140 Correct.

00:28:14.800 And you knew that the special prosecutor to whom she was referring in that motion was Mr. Wade, correct?

00:28:23.840 You knew that?

00:28:25.520 Yes.

00:28:28.280 I'm going to get you to respond to that, but, Phil, I understand you have breaking news.

00:28:31.000 What is it?

00:28:31.980 Yeah, I was just looking at that.

00:28:33.180 All right, so this is new.

00:28:35.260 This is broken here.

00:28:36.240 I don't think it's it.

00:28:37.320 Well, I know for a fact it's not been broken anywhere else.

00:28:39.780 The Georgia State Senate has an investigation going on into the Fulton District Attorney's Office.

00:28:45.180 There's a committee that's looking into this.

00:28:48.120 Today, they've issued a subpoena.

00:28:50.360 They've issued a subpoena to Attorney Ashley Merchant for all of her text communications related to this case.

00:28:58.700 I don't know more at this time, but I do know that that subpoena is out and that it's seeking these very things that we're talking about right now on this show.

00:29:12.140 So there's obviously more to come.

00:29:14.820 Other people are interested in this.

00:29:16.600 This is getting the attention of the authorities, not only in the state Senate, but there's ethics things going on here in Georgia.

00:29:24.240 Fannie Willis has a lot that she needs.

00:29:26.000 She's going to have to be on defense for, for the foreseeable future. 0.88

00:29:29.420 But suffice it to say, the Senate is now seeking all of these text communications to see if they can figure out what's going on.

00:29:37.980 And, of course, the court is not the only entity that has an interest in this.

00:29:43.080 As we've seen, we have lots of other government agencies that have at least some dog in this fight in some particular way.

00:29:49.880 The Senate, the House of Representatives in Washington, D.C., Jim Jordan's committee, he sent a subpoena to Fannie Willis.

00:29:56.940 So there's lots going on for her.

00:29:59.060 And like we have said, I don't know if it was yesterday or last week, the truth will come out one way or another.

00:30:05.680 And here it comes.

00:30:07.760 We're going to see the text messages, the legal headaches for Fannie Willis continue to mount this. 0.82

00:30:12.660 The entire text message exchange between Ashley Merchant and Terrence Bradley, subpoenaed now by the Georgia State Senate, which is investigating Fannie Willis's behavior in this case.

00:30:22.800 Where could that go?

00:30:23.980 What power does the Georgia State Senate have over Fannie Willis or any of this? 0.94

00:30:29.740 So there are obviously half of the state legislature which has the capacity to make laws.

00:30:34.540 They can do laws that have to do with ethics.

00:30:39.160 They can do things that have to do with evidence.

00:30:41.860 They can do things that have to do with funding, quite frankly, of prosecutors' offices.

00:30:45.980 And there's a big move in the Georgia legislature to have an entity, an agency, if you will, that conducts oversight of prosecutors throughout the state of Georgia.

00:30:57.840 They have one that's an oversight for the judiciary. 0.53

00:31:01.500 So there's a push to be able to do an oversight on prosecutors.

00:31:05.000 They have something that already exists, but they're making changes and tweaks to it, I think, in the current legislature.

00:31:13.880 So they can make laws, basically, that can impact how not only Fannie Willis but other prosecutors are able to conduct themselves and run their offices in the future. 0.72

00:31:23.500 Here's why, for the immediate purposes, this subpoena is significant.

00:31:29.940 This document, with all the text exchanges, is not yet public.

00:31:33.900 I'm sure the judge has seen it, which is, I'm sure, helpful to Ashley Merchant.

00:31:38.280 But it's not yet public, and yet it's going to be.

00:31:41.460 Because while there may be a confidentiality order in this case, the Georgia State Senate answers to the people and is going to have to make—

00:31:48.800 There's nothing inherently confidential about this.

00:31:50.600 This is not a lawyer-client communication.

00:31:52.960 This is Ashley Merchant, lawyer for one of the defendants, communicating with Terrence Bradley, potential witness in the case.

00:31:57.940 There's nothing that would protect this other than a protective order by this judge.

00:32:01.680 And once the Georgia State Senate gets its hands on it, we're all going to see all of the texts in full between the two of them.

00:32:07.520 Right now we have highlights.

00:32:08.900 We have a couple of specifics.

00:32:11.040 But I'm sure if you see the whole document front to back, it's going to put everything in context.

00:32:15.720 And I guarantee you it's not going to make Terrence Bradley look like a guy who's sitting, speculating, reluctant to share.

00:32:22.740 It's probably going to show somebody who's very much in on the discussion and wants Ashley Merchant to have the accurate info, for whatever reason, about Nathan Wade.

00:32:32.960 The truth will come out.

00:32:38.300 We keep going back to that, and I really don't know any other way to say it.

00:32:42.000 The bigger picture here to me, Megan, is we need to figure out what was the impetus behind this prosecution in the first place.

00:32:55.040 One of the key issues is, was it done for political reasons?

00:32:59.040 Is this a case where you have a Democrat politician using the vast power of her office as the district attorney? 0.99

00:33:07.240 Is she using that to prosecute someone who's a political enemy? 0.59

00:33:12.520 Are there people in her office?

00:33:14.500 You had a guest on yesterday from Breitbart, and what they're looking at is whether or not there was a political piece of how this thing started.

00:33:25.600 And is this really a get Trump kind of a case?

00:33:29.200 We've got to have prosecutors who are fair.

00:33:31.200 You can't have prosecutors who single out individuals and target them because they don't like them or because they don't like their politics or they don't agree with how they tweet.

00:33:41.540 You've got to have prosecutors who are fair-minded and objective.

00:33:45.480 And this goes back to the motion to dismiss and disqualify that has been litigated right now, that we're talking about right now.

00:33:53.340 Because if Willis is – part of that motion, let's not forget, is that she is out on TV, on the radio.

00:34:01.520 She's making herself a star in the public eye, and she's doing it to benefit herself personally and professionally.

00:34:10.640 That's the allegation.

00:34:11.880 That's the claim and part of this motion.

00:34:14.040 She hired a media company to monitor her mentions.

00:34:16.300 Yeah, she hired the media company, and so this is all part of the claim that this is so unfair for all these reasons that the indictment itself is structurally unsound, and it's structurally unsound because it's not based on fundamental fairness as required by the due process clause of the Constitution.

00:34:37.000 You need look no further than, I will say, Jack Smith, who is definitely partisan and out to get Trump, however, is behaving himself with respect to the public like a normal prosecutor behaves when they're outward facing.

00:34:51.660 He made one statement.

00:34:52.800 It was, what, a minute long, maybe 90 seconds after one of the indictments, and then we never heard from him again.

00:34:58.660 That is how a normal prosecutor handles crime, where you're looking to put someone behind bars.

00:35:06.440 She can't get herself in front of the cameras and the microphones enough. 0.90

00:35:10.720 She wants to be a star.

00:35:13.220 That's been clear from the beginning, and it's come back to bite her in the you-know-what.

00:35:18.460 I want to get back before we take a quick break because I have other texts that I'm going to show the audience.

00:35:23.000 But to that soundbite we played before your breaking news, where she, Ashley Merchant, and Gillum, he represents one of the other defendants, are pointing out the absurdity of him.

00:35:34.620 She's asking him, was there anything else inaccurate, anything else?

00:35:38.280 And he's like, no, looks good, looks good.

00:35:41.640 And now he wants to say, oh, I was only referring to that one footnote when I said, looks good.

00:35:48.560 That's it.

00:35:49.060 And Gillum gets up there and says, you looked at this motion that you knew a lawyer for a defendant was about to file.

00:35:57.640 This motion was called defendant Michael Roman's motion to dismiss grand jury indictment as fatally defective and motion to disqualify the district attorney, her office, and the special prosecutor, Nathan Wade, and from further prosecuting this matter.

00:36:12.580 Do you remember seeing that?

00:36:13.660 Yes, there wasn't anything in that title that threw you off.

00:36:17.380 Pretty straightforward, wasn't it?

00:36:19.200 Correct.

00:36:20.120 You knew, you knew that the special prosecutor to whom she was referring was Mr. Wade.

00:36:25.480 Correct?

00:36:26.360 Yes.

00:36:27.600 And so now you tell me what credibility this guy has to look at the judge and say, oh, I was, I thought I was only being asked if my one little footnote that I raised was accurate or not.

00:36:39.560 The way I read it, when I read that text message that you were just referring to, I interpret it to mean that he's telling Mr. Merchant that everything, you know, with maybe that one exception about what he was referring to is accurate.

00:36:57.440 And that would include the information about when the affair began.

00:37:02.280 So that's how I took it.

00:37:05.080 That's why it's offered as substantive evidence, because the judge is not obligated to accept testimony from the witness stand.

00:37:11.860 He can go by the text messages, because if the text message confirms that, you know, the relevant parts of her motion, particularly about when the affair began and that kind of thing,

00:37:23.300 if he's confirming to her in the text messages that all that is accurate, the judge can use that as substantive evidence in the case, Megan, to base his ruling.

00:37:33.500 And, you know, so that's that's what this is going to be about.

00:37:36.940 And on Friday, you're going to see the lawyers arguing that point to the judge and hammering that point so that hopefully he relies on the prior statements versus the in court statements.

00:37:47.780 I don't know how he couldn't. I mean, Terrence Bradley was obviously not telling the truth yesterday.

00:37:52.320 You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know it. It was like any civilian could look at it.

00:37:55.720 I guess CNN wasn't able to see it. But any nonpartisan hack can see what he was doing there.

00:38:01.160 There's a lot more. There is a question about and I'm going to take a break first.

00:38:06.340 But there is a question about where's the prosecutor? Where's the lead prosecutor?

00:38:10.900 Her name is Anna Cross, who had Terrence Bradley when he was on the stand on Feb 16. 0.96

00:38:18.740 She did the cross-examination. Suddenly she's off the briefs and might be off the case. 0.75

00:38:25.020 Why? Why? Stand by. Quick break. Back with Phil next.

00:38:32.500 There are a couple of other text exchanges, and I do want to get to this lead prosecutor on what happened to Anna Cross.

00:38:38.660 Where is she? But let's start with another text exchange. 0.97

00:38:43.300 Some we have, like the three that we just went through, that we showed to the audience.

00:38:47.320 Some we just heard about during the cross-examination.

00:38:50.900 And this is one of those, or at least this is some information that Terrence Bradley appears to have shared with Ashley Merchant in some way, shape or form,

00:39:03.100 about allegedly someone witnessing Wade and Willis having sex in the office place before she was DA.

00:39:12.300 Again, before they claimed their affair began.

00:39:15.820 This is SOT 7.

00:39:18.960 Mr. Wade told you that they had sex at the office, though, correct?

00:39:22.240 I don't recall him saying that, no.

00:39:24.800 You don't recall?

00:39:25.740 No.

00:39:26.040 So it's possible he did say that.

00:39:31.940 You just don't remember one way or another?

00:39:33.820 I do not remember him saying that.

00:39:37.340 Now, the longer exchange has her setting that up by saying,

00:39:40.440 do you remember telling me that Wade and Willis would rendezvous at this office?

00:39:44.140 Um, and so she's zeroing in on, you told me this.

00:39:50.780 And then she says, Mr. Wade told you they had sex at the office.

00:39:55.000 I don't recall him saying that.

00:39:56.800 You don't recall?

00:39:57.620 No.

00:39:58.260 And then she goes on to say, so it's possible he did say that?

00:40:00.380 And he says, I don't remember.

00:40:01.660 Now, you and I both know, Phil.

00:40:03.180 You and I both know. 0.98

00:40:04.740 If you're Terrence Bradley and Nathan Wade's telling you he's having sex with Fannie Willis at the office, 0.93

00:40:10.480 you remember. 0.96

00:40:11.460 You remember, it's just yet another example of him.

00:40:16.480 I mean, I guess technically what's he trying to do in our, in our estimation?

00:40:20.220 It's our opinion, trying to protect Nathan Wade and trying to not lie in doing it.

00:40:27.340 He doesn't want to get himself a perjury charge.

00:40:29.480 So the only out at this point is I don't recall.

00:40:33.540 Well, the big question about them having sex at the office in my mind,

00:40:37.900 and I was listening closely to this yesterday and I may have missed it,

00:40:41.540 but I didn't hear anybody talk about when that sex occurred.

00:40:46.680 I mean, other than not remembering, but it's important because if,

00:40:51.220 if there's some communications that confirm that they were having sex, you know,

00:40:55.700 prior to 2022, that's highly relevant.

00:40:58.620 And that does move the needle. 0.95

00:40:59.980 But if they're having sex at the office in 2022 and Bradley didn't leave there,

00:41:04.040 I think until the summer, maybe June of 2022.

00:41:06.960 So if it was like the first half of that year,

00:41:08.900 then that would be consistent with the testimony that their affair started in 2022.

00:41:14.260 So what we don't know.

00:41:15.360 Just to clarify that, Phil, because that got a little confusing.

00:41:17.220 If the references to, if that office in, in, in the, in the reference to, um,

00:41:23.760 did you remember telling me that Wade and Willis would rendezvous at that office?

00:41:28.580 Uh, if that office is a reference to Wade's and Terrence Bradley's law office,

00:41:35.480 you're saying Terrence left that in early 2022.

00:41:40.380 Is that what you're saying?

00:41:41.840 I think Terrence left the firm in the middle, in the summer of, of 2022.

00:41:45.580 So what, what we don't know, and I wasn't clear.

00:41:48.220 And part of the problem.

00:41:48.880 So let me just stop before we go too, too, too far down this road.

00:41:51.380 I've got Kelly McGuire, one of my producers in my ear.

00:41:53.380 It's a reference to the Evans office, which is, I think, is that Fannie's earlier office?

00:41:59.620 I don't know.

00:42:00.400 I think possibly, um, yes, there's also an individual name.

00:42:03.780 She rented an office.

00:42:05.640 What year Kelly McGuire started to have this conversation live on the air,

00:42:08.340 but Kelly's been neck deep in all of this.

00:42:10.960 Well, it's important to get it straight.

00:42:12.220 It was hard to keep straight in court.

00:42:13.700 Okay.

00:42:14.300 Okay.

00:42:14.600 She, hearing from Kelly McGuire, listen, she's poured over this very carefully that we believe

00:42:18.660 Fannie Willis was renting an office in Evans and that it was as far back as maybe 18, 19.

00:42:24.980 And this is, so this is long before 2022.

00:42:28.700 Okay.

00:42:29.140 And Ashley Merchant is saying, do you remember Wade and Willis would rendezvous at that office?

00:42:33.140 It's a reference to the Evans office, which he had back in 19.

00:42:36.840 Um, and then he says, first, any knowledge I would have received would have come from my

00:42:41.660 client at the time.

00:42:43.080 And then she gets another bite at it.

00:42:45.720 Ashley words and says, wait, Mr. Wade told you they had sex at that office though. 0.99

00:42:48.700 Correct.

00:42:49.340 I don't recall.

00:42:50.200 You don't recall.

00:42:51.020 No.

00:42:51.420 So it's possible.

00:42:52.000 He did say that.

00:42:52.820 I don't remember him saying that.

00:42:54.020 So she's trying to prove here, Phil, that they were having sex as far back as 19, which is

00:43:00.520 exactly what we heard from star witness, Robin, your T listen here from everything that you

00:43:08.600 saw, heard, witnessed.

00:43:11.180 Um, it's your understanding that they were in a romantic relationship beginning in 2019.

00:43:15.600 Yes, you have no doubt that their romantic relationship was in effect from 2019 until the

00:43:22.140 last time we spoke with her.

00:43:24.440 No doubt.

00:43:25.200 And did you observe them do things that are, uh, common among people having a romantic

00:43:32.520 relationship?

00:43:34.180 Yes.

00:43:35.000 Such as, can you give us an example?

00:43:40.200 Hugging, kissing, just affection.

00:43:43.440 All of, all before November 1st of 2021, correct?

00:43:48.500 Yes.

00:43:50.140 And she said 2019.

00:43:52.040 And so this Evans office was 2019.

00:43:55.080 And you tell me where Ashley Merchant would have gotten it, that Willis and Wade were having

00:43:58.600 sex in the Evans office being occupied by Fannie Willis, if not from Terrence Bradley, who

00:44:04.160 suddenly doesn't recall anything.

00:44:06.220 Yeah.

00:44:06.540 I, when I heard that, I, I interpreted it to mean that there had been a discussion, like

00:44:11.580 a conversation maybe on the phone or in person between Merchant and Bradley where maybe he

00:44:16.720 had stated that because I don't think there was a, uh, I didn't hear about them confronting

00:44:22.360 him with a text message talking about it.

00:44:24.220 She didn't dare.

00:44:25.560 Yeah.

00:44:25.860 So I, I believe that that was based on, you know, you got to have a good faith basis for

00:44:29.900 it.

00:44:30.020 And I've been in that situation where somebody tells me something and I, you know, I don't

00:44:34.320 get it in writing and then they say something different in court.

00:44:36.740 And I, isn't it true that you told me, you know, last week, something totally different,

00:44:40.620 but if they say, no, I didn't tell you that you're kind of stuck because you don't have

00:44:44.020 any way to prove it.

00:44:45.100 And I think that was the situation she may have found herself in there where there was

00:44:48.620 a conversation that she remembered, uh, him making a statement that, that he didn't

00:44:54.180 even remember the conversation.

00:44:55.420 So she's kind of unfortunately stuck with that answer unless she's got some other way of proving

00:44:59.620 that the statement was made, but that's how I, that's how I, that's what I took from

00:45:03.220 it.

00:45:03.820 Yeah.

00:45:03.940 Here's another excerpt where she asks him specifically about trips and she appears to

00:45:10.600 be referencing a text, but again, we don't yet have our hands on the text.

00:45:13.900 I'm just going to read from the transcript that my team put together.

00:45:17.000 Ashley Merchant, did Mr. Wade tell you about the trips that he and Ms. Willis took?

00:45:22.560 Terrence Bradley, no.

00:45:24.560 Bradley, I did not know until you texted that you found that in the deposition of his divorce.

00:45:31.720 Um, and the, and that you found that in the deposition of his divorce merchant.

00:45:36.520 Okay.

00:45:37.000 And when you responded, doesn't surprise me.

00:45:40.400 Cause she texted him, did you know about the trips?

00:45:42.820 And he responded, doesn't surprise me.

00:45:45.400 They took many trips to Florida, Texas, California.

00:45:49.240 Those are your words, right?

00:45:51.440 And she got an objection to relevance, but, uh, let's see, eventually he just said, I don't

00:45:57.760 recall.

00:45:58.240 So she clearly has another text, at least one that says, um, they took these trips and

00:46:03.800 he says, doesn't surprise me.

00:46:05.400 They took many trips to Florida, Texas, California.

00:46:08.160 And some of these we don't know about, oh, I haven't heard testimony about a trip to Texas

00:46:12.960 and so on.

00:46:14.420 So the full extent of the relationship and the travels may not yet have been revealed,

00:46:20.120 Phil.

00:46:20.320 And really what we need is the full texts.

00:46:24.520 Yeah.

00:46:24.820 Uh, there's, there's obviously a lot of context that's, uh, that's missing here.

00:46:28.360 You know, yesterday I would have loved to, for them to be able to have like a projector

00:46:32.560 to be able to publish the contents of these that we're talking about right now so that it

00:46:37.680 could help us to understand the testimony.

00:46:39.520 But now that we have these texts that we've been talking about, it does provide so much

00:46:44.280 more context and it's easier, I think, for people to see, you know, how, uh, this can

00:46:48.940 be used as, as substantive evidence.

00:46:51.140 And the judge is not obligated to, to stick with the testimony that he heard, you know,

00:46:56.080 from the witness stand.

00:46:57.700 Yeah.

00:46:58.040 Yeah, exactly right.

00:46:58.900 So, all right.

00:46:59.740 So here are the things that we still need to get through.

00:47:02.540 There are still additional exchanges.

00:47:03.760 We want to show you some of the, some more of Nathan Wade's, sorry, Terrence Bradley's

00:47:09.380 wiggling on the stand and the obvious lies.

00:47:12.300 We have sort of a spy, the lie clip for the audience to take a look at.

00:47:16.040 And then we've got to get to whether this prosecutor abandoned ship.

00:47:18.960 And if so, why, why?

00:47:21.460 Because Phil and I now, and Dave, uh, and Mike and I have Mike Davis has been saying this

00:47:27.080 over and over.

00:47:27.680 So is Phil that there, if these two are lying, if Nathan Wade's lying, if Fannie Willis is lying

00:47:33.220 and any of their team, they're represented by the state, by Fannie's office, knows that

00:47:39.060 they've put them on the stand, they've lied, they have, may have ethical obligations of

00:47:43.200 their own to try to get them to reverse the lie or to withdraw from the case that's in

00:47:49.560 the ethical canons.

00:47:50.940 All right, stand by, quick break, back with Phil.

00:47:56.740 This is time for one of those Fox News bongs.

00:47:59.720 We would have bonged in with the following information.

00:48:01.740 Boy, do we have an update to bring to you in this case.

00:48:05.120 I have here in front of me the texts.

00:48:11.680 I've got 31 pages of the text messages sent between Ashley Merchant and Terrence Bradley.

00:48:17.260 We've got them.

00:48:18.880 We've got them right here.

00:48:19.880 We're going to go through them together.

00:48:21.060 Just got them.

00:48:22.020 Obtained by our guest, Phil Holloway.

00:48:24.560 I told you he's breaking big news in this case, and here he breaks it again right here

00:48:27.620 on The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:48:28.480 You heard a couple of them earlier discussed in this show, but we are going to go over them

00:48:33.060 all in order as they happened.

00:48:36.460 Not every single one, because there's 31 pages will be here all day, but the relevant one.

00:48:41.320 Again, these are some of the texts that Terrence Bradley is now claiming he was merely speculating

00:48:46.260 about.

00:48:46.760 You decide.

00:48:47.680 We'll walk you through them.

00:48:48.900 We'll let you decide.

00:48:50.380 My team's been going crazy on this this morning and the past few minutes trying to get something

00:48:55.280 in order here, the portion of text exchanges we received.

00:48:59.420 We believe this is everything.

00:49:01.460 We believe this is all texts between Merchant and Bradley.

00:49:05.680 That's what we understand at this time.

00:49:07.860 They show Merchant and Bradley texting as far back as September.

00:49:12.120 Here's September 18th, where Merchant texts.

00:49:16.520 Look at this.

00:49:16.900 We're putting them on the board for you.

00:49:17.860 You guys got to go to YouTube.com slash Megan Kelly to sign up.

00:49:20.920 You can watch all this live when it drops later today.

00:49:24.920 Merchant texts, any idea who I could get an affidavit from on the affair?

00:49:29.280 Bradley responds, no, no one would freely burn that bridge.

00:49:33.600 We had heard her make reference to this back on February 15th at the hearing.

00:49:38.420 We've never seen it.

00:49:40.280 Merchant responds, okay.

00:49:42.080 If Chris was asked under oath, would he know?

00:49:44.780 Don't know who Chris is.

00:49:46.160 Merchant is likely, though, talking about Wade's law partner, Chris Campbell.

00:49:49.300 Bradley responds, no.

00:49:51.460 Okay, so the question was, if Chris is asked, would he know?

00:49:53.560 Bradley says, no.

00:49:54.840 Merchant says, wow, I figured he would.

00:49:56.740 I didn't expect them to be so careful.

00:49:58.900 Bradley responds, he knows, but he won't admit it.

00:50:02.720 I'm sorry, but this is not how someone who knows nothing about an affair sounds.

00:50:08.400 It's like the guy, he's caught.

00:50:11.440 Sorry, like Nathan's caught, Fannie's caught, Terrence is caught, giving it up.

00:50:16.640 Ashley Merchant has been an honest broker from the beginning and was wrongfully smeared

00:50:21.360 by Willis.

00:50:23.780 Let's keep going, all right?

00:50:26.500 January 5th, 2024.

00:50:28.880 That's before Ashley Merchant filed her motion, requesting that Wade and Willis and the entire

00:50:33.280 DA's office be disqualified from further prosecuting this case.

00:50:37.380 She texts, I assume you knew about the trips.

00:50:41.920 Wow, oh wow.

00:50:42.800 So, uh, insane, I'm shocked.

00:50:46.140 And then she goes on, well, not really, but some way.

00:50:48.500 And he writes, no, I didn't.

00:50:50.680 When did it happen?

00:50:51.680 She says, last trip was this summer, May or June.

00:50:53.960 He says, no, I didn't know I was gone by then.

00:50:56.320 Doesn't surprise me.

00:50:57.340 This is the part we were just talking about.

00:50:58.940 Doesn't surprise me.

00:50:59.780 They took many trips to Florida, Texas.

00:51:02.660 Again, that's new.

00:51:03.220 We didn't know about that.

00:51:04.200 And then she responds, and Napa.

00:51:06.720 And he writes, California.

00:51:08.680 And she writes, yep.

00:51:11.800 And then he says, when she moved her daughter there.

00:51:15.540 She responds, I can't believe they were so carefree.

00:51:17.560 I'm trying to anticipate her response when I blow this up.

00:51:20.640 And he says something about her daughter flunking out of a school, FAMU, and moving to California

00:51:27.140 in defense of the daughter.

00:51:28.340 No idea whether that's true.

00:51:29.360 So, um, let's say, uh, let's say that she goes on to say, dang, they had a full on relationship.

00:51:37.940 Insane, just insane.

00:51:39.000 And he responds, he went to help her move, move her, meaning the daughter.

00:51:43.000 She responds, why she would hire him is insane.

00:51:47.800 He writes, yes, he's admitting.

00:51:50.940 I agree.

00:51:51.340 It's insane.

00:51:51.940 She hired him.

00:51:52.920 Why would it be insane to hire him if they weren't having an affair?

00:51:56.520 Now, he's saying right here, they were having an affair when she hired him, which we knew

00:52:05.200 it was obvious.

00:52:07.280 That's what the evidence has shown.

00:52:08.800 And this is where the text we went over earlier comes in, which we'd only seen a portion of

00:52:12.760 earlier where she responds, like, just date him.

00:52:15.680 Don't hire him.

00:52:17.520 And she says, do you think it started before she hired him?

00:52:20.440 He responds, absolutely.

00:52:22.180 And then added, it started when she left the DA's office and was a judge in South Fulton,

00:52:28.360 which we pointed out to you before was in 2019.

00:52:31.820 And then she liked that.

00:52:33.900 And then he said they met at the municipal court CLE conference.

00:52:37.560 She responded.

00:52:38.920 That's what I figured when he was married.

00:52:40.980 Then right after that comes the next text we went over.

00:52:43.960 Is this accurate?

00:52:46.160 It's literally 13 minutes later.

00:52:48.980 She texts, is this accurate?

00:52:50.800 Upon information and belief, Willis and Wade met while both were serving as magistrate

00:52:54.480 judges and began a romantic relationship at that time.

00:52:56.820 He responds, no, municipal court.

00:52:59.720 She says, thank you.

00:53:01.220 He says, listen to this.

00:53:04.480 He says, but you can't put where they met.

00:53:07.100 Not many people know that.

00:53:08.900 I might be one of the only, not even Chris Campbell.

00:53:12.220 Okay, I'm sorry.

00:53:13.740 Again, he doesn't want it to be obvious that he's the source.

00:53:17.680 He's worried.

00:53:18.720 He knows it doesn't look good for him to be sharing this information about Nathan Wade,

00:53:23.880 with whom he has clearly had a falling out because he left the law firm.

00:53:29.060 And we saw in the cross-examination that was done of him on Feb 15 or 16,

00:53:33.960 they accused him of sexually assaulting either one person twice or two people.

00:53:38.520 He denied it.

00:53:39.960 Okay, we're going to get to that.

00:53:40.880 But he's clearly helping counsel for the defense in this massive case against Trump and Michael

00:53:46.920 Roman and the others, and he doesn't want to be outed.

00:53:49.620 You can't put that in there where they met.

00:53:51.820 Not many people know it.

00:53:52.760 I might be one of the only ones, not even Chris Campbell.

00:53:55.700 Okay, let's keep going.

00:53:57.420 She says, I'm not.

00:53:58.980 She also got stuff from the divorce lawyer.

00:54:00.560 I got a ton of stuff.

00:54:01.620 He says, like, what else?

00:54:03.060 Then he says, when will it drop?

00:54:04.860 He's anticipating it, guys.

00:54:07.000 He's anticipating it.

00:54:08.680 When will it drop? 1.00

00:54:10.580 He is screwed. 1.00

00:54:11.620 He is so screwed. 1.00

00:54:12.520 It's so obvious. 1.00

00:54:13.380 The judge has access to all of this.

00:54:16.300 He knows what we know.

00:54:18.400 She says, Monday's my filing deadline.

00:54:20.720 You won't be involved at all.

00:54:22.980 Well, that turned out not to be true.

00:54:25.100 He finally turned over his financial documents, which show he paid for Fannie's Delta flight.

00:54:29.220 It has her name on it, to California Napa vacation, and he paid for a Royal Caribbean cruise for them.

00:54:35.160 This is Ashley Merchant finally realizing about all the trips, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:54:41.340 Then she asks him, this is January 5th, do you even talk to him anymore?

00:54:44.960 Uh, and then she said, let's see, Fannie is the one in most trouble. 0.99

00:54:52.000 She didn't get county approval to hire him.

00:54:54.240 She's required by statute to do so.

00:54:55.960 And he seems to be responding to, do you even talk to him anymore?

00:54:58.900 No, I don't.

00:55:00.220 That's also kind of interesting.

00:55:02.140 Okay.

00:55:02.420 Then she says, I can send you a draft.

00:55:05.640 I'm almost done with my motion.

00:55:07.300 I can send you a draft.

00:55:08.880 Can't wait to hear about your trip.

00:55:10.180 And he says, okay, happy hunting, LOL.

00:55:12.800 Okay.

00:55:14.960 I'm sorry, but there's like one 80 between this person in these texts and the man we

00:55:19.820 saw, we saw on the stand, happy hunting.

00:55:23.020 Don't identify me like offering ideas, volunteering information.

00:55:28.920 Uh, it continues.

00:55:30.080 Let's see.

00:55:31.820 To your knowledge, has Nathan ever prosecuted a felony?

00:55:34.120 I can't find a single one.

00:55:35.680 Never in his life has he ever prosecuted a felony.

00:55:38.520 She writes, that's what I found too.

00:55:39.800 It's bad.

00:55:40.660 He asks her, send a rough draft.

00:55:42.800 He's asking her to send him the motion.

00:55:45.260 Merchant responds.

00:55:47.480 Oh, let's see.

00:55:50.600 Okay.

00:55:51.640 Promise not to share it.

00:55:53.200 I don't want it leaked before I file it.

00:55:55.860 I protected you completely, by the way.

00:55:58.700 He says, I promise you won't share it.

00:56:00.760 They're working together.

00:56:01.880 There's nothing wrong with that, by the way.

00:56:03.520 He's not doing anything wrong.

00:56:05.480 It's what this confirms is what we knew.

00:56:08.020 He had information that was non-privileged from Nathan Wade.

00:56:11.240 He felt more than comfortable sharing it.

00:56:13.100 Maybe the two didn't get along.

00:56:14.420 They haven't talked, he said, in a while.

00:56:17.000 And he obviously wanted Ashley Merchant and the defense to know.

00:56:21.740 He wanted them to know that this is the truth.

00:56:26.960 This is before Wade and Willis have taken the stand to deny it under oath.

00:56:32.100 Maybe Terrence Bradley's thinking they'll admit it under oath.

00:56:36.580 He says to her they're going to deny it.

00:56:38.640 One thing to deny it privately to a lawyer or to the press.

00:56:41.660 Quite another to do so under oath.

00:56:44.240 All right.

00:56:44.480 Let's keep going.

00:56:45.140 She says, not that you need a protection, but I kept you out of it.

00:56:49.960 Let me know your thoughts.

00:56:51.040 Now, of course, she wants to keep him out of it.

00:56:53.440 I got to have a glass of wine.

00:56:54.520 This is a lot.

00:56:59.000 She, she's trying to keep him out of it, but she can't keep him out of it.

00:57:03.080 Ultimately, she's not going to be able to think, keep him out of it.

00:57:05.960 Okay.

00:57:06.220 Then he says, he responds, uh, this is about an hour and a half after she texted him the motion.

00:57:14.560 He responds, I really appreciate you keeping me out, but I think you need to add me in the footnote 15,

00:57:21.520 because I had a contract as well.

00:57:24.640 That way it doesn't seem like I was involved.

00:57:28.560 And here it is.

00:57:29.960 Here it is.

00:57:31.580 This is the prelude to the text.

00:57:34.460 We went over that big, where he said, add me to footnote 15 and how much I made.

00:57:40.820 And she says, I took you out.

00:57:41.980 I can add that back in.

00:57:43.420 Good point.

00:57:45.020 This is, this is the prelude to the text.

00:57:46.900 We read you earlier where he's saying, I appreciate you keeping me out, but you need to add me back into that footnote

00:57:51.580 because I had a contract as well with the DA's office.

00:57:54.240 He means, and that way it doesn't seem like I was involved.

00:57:57.700 You guys all see it.

00:57:58.660 You know what he's doing.

00:57:59.320 He doesn't want it.

00:57:59.820 Of course he doesn't want it out there that he was helping, but he was helping.

00:58:03.320 Um, okay.

00:58:05.120 Keep going here.

00:58:06.460 She says, I took you out.

00:58:07.580 I can add it back.

00:58:08.160 Good point.

00:58:08.800 Yes.

00:58:09.040 Add it back.

00:58:09.500 He says, she says, anything else, anything that isn't accurate.

00:58:11.940 He says, looks good.

00:58:13.140 We've been over that.

00:58:14.100 She loved that.

00:58:15.400 Uh, looks good.

00:58:16.920 How do you think they will respond?

00:58:18.200 I'm trying to anticipate.

00:58:20.160 He says, did you look at campaign contributions?

00:58:22.220 I can't remember what we gave her when she was running.

00:58:24.200 Uh, she says, good idea.

00:58:26.460 And Sonia Allen.

00:58:27.680 Now, how will they react to this? 1.00

00:58:29.360 She reiterates attack me, give the stupid, no fear or favor speech. 1.00

00:58:34.660 He says, no, they will deny it. 1.00

00:58:36.920 They won't attack you.

00:58:38.180 Uh, they're going to deny it.

00:58:42.180 And she says, if they deny it, they will become public liars.

00:58:46.120 Um, okay.

00:58:46.860 Let's see.

00:58:50.480 I'm just reading here.

00:58:52.220 One, six, 24.

00:58:53.200 This is a lot of, a lot of back and forth around one, six, 24.

00:58:55.640 I am shocked.

00:58:57.660 She paid him so much.

00:58:59.300 How did they think they wouldn't get caught?

00:59:01.260 So careless.

00:59:02.140 This is Ashley Merchant.

00:59:03.560 Why not just, why not just not pay Nathan?

00:59:08.060 Lord, Terrence Bradley, arrogance.

00:59:13.700 This is so telling.

00:59:14.980 This is fascinating.

00:59:17.520 I am shocked.

00:59:18.520 She paid him so much.

00:59:19.600 How did they think they wouldn't get caught?

00:59:21.380 So careless.

00:59:22.360 Why not just not pay Nathan?

00:59:24.700 Arrogance.

00:59:26.240 Okay.

00:59:26.900 Moving on.

00:59:28.340 Um, okay.

00:59:31.700 She says, I may subpoena the detail.

00:59:34.680 She seems to mean security detail, but wasn't sure if it would help much.

00:59:38.360 Those guys know it all.

00:59:40.380 Here's his response.

00:59:41.920 This is one, seven, 24, 12, 12 PM.

00:59:44.720 Yes, but they changed.

00:59:46.300 You need to subpoena their original detail and current detail.

00:59:50.400 You really want the guys when she was initially elected.

00:59:53.360 And you tell me audience, was she initially elected?

00:59:56.300 Prior to hiring Nathan Wade.

00:59:59.760 Yeah, she was.

01:00:00.680 She was elected in 2020.

01:00:02.320 Why would Terrence Bradley be saying, you've got to get her original security detail she

01:00:06.520 had back in 2020?

01:00:07.400 You really want those guys.

01:00:10.780 Why would he be saying that when she's saying, I've got to get the detail?

01:00:15.280 Those guys know it all.

01:00:16.880 If the affair wasn't going on in 2020, when she was initially elected, it's right here.

01:00:21.820 The judge has this.

01:00:24.020 He knows what we know.

01:00:26.580 Terrence Bradley saw what Robin Urte saw.

01:00:31.660 This affair was going on for years prior to 2022.

01:00:36.380 And these two lied.

01:00:38.060 They took the stand and in my very well-educated opinion, told lies under oath to this judge,

01:00:47.400 to these lawyers, to Fulton County, to all of us, to all of us.

01:00:53.900 He's divulging this with zero questioning by Ashley Merchant.

01:00:58.800 She's not prompting him.

01:00:59.980 What?

01:01:00.720 Which detail?

01:01:01.820 Tell me when.

01:01:03.260 That's not what's happening here.

01:01:05.300 All right.

01:01:05.600 Keep it.

01:01:06.000 Keep it going.

01:01:07.160 Okay.

01:01:07.400 Other than security detail, she writes, can you think of anyone else who can confirm their

01:01:11.920 romantic relationship?

01:01:13.340 Obviously leaving you and Chris out of the mix.

01:01:15.920 Maybe her kids, other coworkers.

01:01:18.180 He responds, her kids.

01:01:19.700 Yes.

01:01:21.260 Where's the Mr.

01:01:22.260 I like, maybe I need to pause here and show the audience.

01:01:27.280 Where's the one?

01:01:28.080 Where's the Sot Deb where he's like, I only had one conversation about this.

01:01:31.780 Do we have that cut?

01:01:33.080 Only ever had.

01:01:34.340 Okay.

01:01:35.080 Can I, I just want to play for you.

01:01:36.960 I'm going to interject in the midst of these text messages, what he was saying yesterday

01:01:40.780 on the stand, which was literally, I only ever had one conversation with Nathan Wade

01:01:45.080 privileged or otherwise only one about his relationship with Fannie.

01:01:49.260 And now he's like, get the detail back in 2020.

01:01:51.920 They're going to know it all the trips to Texas.

01:01:55.220 And here he is saying, yeah, her kids, her command staff will know her kids are going to

01:02:02.020 know.

01:02:02.280 I thought you only had the one conversation and not much happened in the conversation.

01:02:06.480 Watch Sot 5.

01:02:08.800 You've testified that during the time you represented Mr. Wade from 2018 on, that you

01:02:18.920 only had one conversation with him in reference to the relationship between Miss Willis and 0.65

01:02:25.280 Mr. Wade.

01:02:26.060 Is that correct?

01:02:27.780 Yeah, I think that's fairly accurate.

01:02:28.940 Yes.

01:02:29.760 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, and half of 2022, which is in the vicinity of four to four and a half

01:02:38.060 years, you're testifying under oath.

01:02:40.460 You had one conversation about a relationship between Mr. Wade and Miss Willis.

01:02:45.640 Is that correct?

01:02:51.400 I don't recall having any other conversation with Mr. Wade about him and Miss Willis.

01:02:59.600 Is it your testimony then that you don't remember any other conversation or there wasn't any other

01:03:09.260 conversation besides the one?

01:03:11.880 I don't recall.

01:03:13.100 Um, I would say it was the one, but I don't recall.

01:03:16.880 I'm sorry, but that's a lie.

01:03:20.680 That's a lie.

01:03:22.400 It's obvious.

01:03:24.440 He recalls perfectly well.

01:03:27.440 That's why he's saying, get the security detail from 2020.

01:03:31.500 That's why he's saying her kids know, her command staff.

01:03:34.360 That's why when she said anything else wrong in my motion, other than the fact that I took

01:03:40.720 you out of that one footnote, now I've added you back in.

01:03:43.500 And he says, looks good.

01:03:45.940 That's why.

01:03:47.680 Terrence Bradley was afraid yesterday on that stand to tell the truth.

01:03:53.720 And I don't know why it could be because he was threatened, which I'm going to get to

01:03:57.340 with Phil in a minute.

01:03:58.960 And it could be because he is worried about getting in trouble.

01:04:04.360 With the bar, if he did divulge anything privileged, um, with Nathan Wade, with Fannie

01:04:12.800 Willis, who's the sitting district attorney, whose lawyers cross-examined him about an

01:04:18.540 alleged sexual assault, which he denied.

01:04:22.320 But this woman likes to bring charges with no foundation legally. 1.00

01:04:27.620 So wouldn't you be worried if you were Terrence Bradley?

01:04:30.440 I actually feel like I was too hard on him when I was saying he wasn't believable the

01:04:35.180 other day.

01:04:35.540 I mean, he's not, but maybe the man has good reason, my speculation, but it did come up

01:04:40.200 and cross.

01:04:40.760 Let's keep going.

01:04:41.860 She says, even without evidence of sex, he paid for her plane tickets and her travel.

01:04:47.240 He writes, subpoena them all.

01:04:49.800 Ashley Merchant responds, this is January 8th, 2024.

01:04:52.820 I am nervous.

01:04:53.460 This is huge.

01:04:54.560 He responds, you are huge.

01:04:56.460 You will be fine.

01:04:57.640 You are one of the best lawyers I know.

01:04:59.720 Go be great.

01:05:01.280 It's kind of sweet.

01:05:02.480 They were in a better place then.

01:05:04.020 She's not adversarial to him.

01:05:06.080 Ashley Merchant had no choice but to call him to the stand, the way this thing went down.

01:05:11.480 Um, she said, I just filed to unseal his divorce proceedings. 0.99

01:05:15.480 The shit show's beginning. 1.00

01:05:16.680 He wrote, okay, LOL. 1.00

01:05:19.620 She says, first, are you doing okay?

01:05:22.600 This is fast forwarding to 111, 24.

01:05:25.140 Are you doing okay?

01:05:25.820 I hope so.

01:05:26.300 Next, do you have an address for the East Point pad or maybe a name for the lady who 0.94

01:05:31.700 owned it?

01:05:32.200 Here we go.

01:05:32.820 This is Robin Urti, folks.

01:05:34.840 This is Robin Urti.

01:05:35.980 That's where she lived.

01:05:37.140 And remember, we learned the other day that Fannie Willis wound up moving into Robin Urti's

01:05:41.180 condo for a time and that Nathan Wade allegedly visited her, but Fannie denied it, denied that

01:05:47.600 they were having the affair back then.

01:05:48.920 This is all pre-2022 when they claimed there was no affair.

01:05:51.360 But Urti said there was.

01:05:54.280 Uh, so she says, do you have an address for the East Point pad?

01:05:57.580 It appears here.

01:05:58.280 Ashley Merchant does not yet know the name Robin Urti, a name for the lady who owned it.

01:06:02.880 He says, I don't.

01:06:03.660 Let me see.

01:06:04.740 She says, any leads would be helpful.

01:06:06.440 He says, do an open records request of all people hired when Fannie took office and who

01:06:10.780 was fired around June of 2022.

01:06:12.240 If you get that, I'll be able to give you the name.

01:06:14.600 And she goes on.

01:06:16.180 It was someone who worked for her. 1.00

01:06:18.980 Damn. 1.00

01:06:19.960 He writes, she hired a girlfriend like a bestie. 1.00

01:06:23.200 It was her place.

01:06:24.440 This is Robin Urti.

01:06:25.920 She, Ashley Merchant got the Urti lead from Terrence Bradley, Robin Urti, who we just played

01:06:31.380 for you, saying it started as far back as 2019.

01:06:34.080 She saw the affair with her own two eyes and she heard Fannie tell her about it.

01:06:38.640 These two lied on the stand and need to be disqualified and potentially disbarred.

01:06:44.540 And they will be lucky if they are not brought up on felony charges, which requires a fine

01:06:48.620 and or jail time in Georgia.

01:06:50.820 The Georgia State Senate is going to have its hands full.

01:06:53.800 And so is an independent special prosecutor who needs to be brought in to look into these

01:06:59.420 two.

01:07:00.200 We do need a special prosecutor, not against Trump, against Willis and Wade to figure out

01:07:05.880 whether two previously respected officers of the court took the stand and lied under

01:07:10.800 oath, under oath about material facts.

01:07:14.320 That's what would make it perjury.

01:07:16.220 These are material facts.

01:07:17.980 Did they say this affair began in 2022 to cover their own hides, to cover a kickback scheme,

01:07:23.400 to cover unlawful and unethical behavior?

01:07:26.180 It certainly appears that way.

01:07:28.380 OK, he tells her, do the open records request and I'll be able to figure out who it was.

01:07:31.960 She hired a girlfriend, a bestie.

01:07:34.500 She hired the man and his girlfriend owner, owned it. 1.00

01:07:39.740 Goes on.

01:07:42.020 OK, then Ashley's found the name.

01:07:44.660 Is it Robin, Robin Bryant, East Point Connection?

01:07:47.840 Send me a pic, he says.

01:07:49.060 She sends her one, Ryan, Robin Bryant, your tea.

01:07:52.660 Terrence responds, yep, that's her. 0.54

01:07:54.640 That's the East Point apartment person.

01:07:56.800 Ashley responds, she is key.

01:07:58.180 Thank you.

01:07:58.920 She also knows all about the media company payments.

01:08:01.080 He says, have you spoken to her?

01:08:02.860 I think he means, and then he says, Robin, meaning Robin, your tea, Ashley Merchant.

01:08:07.880 No, but I found her name because I didn't open records for the media company, just as

01:08:11.660 he told her to do.

01:08:13.420 Fannie hired to track her media.

01:08:15.200 She was monitoring it and then they yanked her privilege. 1.00

01:08:18.840 So I figured it went bad.

01:08:20.440 Speaking clearly here about your tea.

01:08:22.580 Terrence responds, yes, she was fired.

01:08:24.360 Wow, they were college besties.

01:08:26.280 Her and Fannie.

01:08:27.460 Terrence, yes.

01:08:28.240 How'd you find her?

01:08:29.000 Lots of time and effort, Ashley responds.

01:08:33.060 I got all of Fannie's emails about the critical media company.

01:08:37.080 That lady was close with Fannie and then boom, she's gone.

01:08:40.760 So I began to suspect something happened.

01:08:42.320 Terrence Bradley, she's her bestie.

01:08:44.040 Be careful.

01:08:44.940 She's probably still loyal.

01:08:46.980 She was.

01:08:47.840 She had to be subpoenaed.

01:08:49.180 Ashley Merchant introduced her during the hearing two weeks ago by saying she was terrified.

01:08:53.720 Well, you know what?

01:08:54.320 Robin, your tea, took the stand and did what's right.

01:08:57.540 She appears to have told the truth in this case, notwithstanding her desire not to and

01:09:04.380 then was smeared as disgruntled by MSNBC and all of Fannie Willis's supporters.

01:09:10.040 He says not many people knew about that apartment.

01:09:14.520 OK, let's go.

01:09:16.780 Ashley Merchant says they made everyone sign NDAs this week.

01:09:19.240 He responds.

01:09:19.680 I heard, but she's fired. 1.00

01:09:21.840 So no NDA.

01:09:23.460 Jeff DeSantis.

01:09:24.380 Remember that name?

01:09:25.700 Talked without with the Breitbart reporter about that yesterday.

01:09:29.120 Wendell.

01:09:30.460 Jeff DeSantis.

01:09:31.640 Deep connections to the DNC.

01:09:33.600 Brought in to Fannie Willis's office shortly after she was elected and shortly before she

01:09:37.040 indicted Donald J.

01:09:38.400 Trump.

01:09:39.320 There's more there.

01:09:41.320 11, 11, 14, 24.

01:09:43.140 He says, Terrence Bradley says, like, she needs to fire Nathan, but she won't.

01:09:51.880 She needs to fire Nathan, but she won't.

01:09:54.000 Ashley responds.

01:09:54.780 Yep.

01:09:55.180 Nope.

01:09:55.500 She won't.

01:09:56.420 But she doesn't dispute it.

01:09:57.620 She will go down in flames for Nathan.

01:10:00.780 Terrence Bradley sends her.

01:10:03.800 He sends her an article with Fannie Willis's church remarks.

01:10:08.240 Remember those where she was like, they say, they say, you know, I played the race card.

01:10:12.620 They played the race card.

01:10:14.460 Apparently, Terrence Bradley saw that article, too, and saw those remarks and forwarded them

01:10:19.400 forwarded them to Ashley Merchant.

01:10:22.580 He says, I hated her pandering to the black church.

01:10:26.560 He was good enough for the white Republicans in good old Cobb County, but not good enough

01:10:30.260 for me.

01:10:30.720 What's the difference?

01:10:31.520 That burned me up, says Terrence Bradley.

01:10:33.360 He didn't like her racial remarks.

01:10:35.340 Good for him.

01:10:36.280 We didn't either.

01:10:36.820 Yeah.

01:10:38.240 Okay.

01:10:38.680 They move forward.

01:10:42.120 She's talking about how much Fannie's paying the other special prosecutors.

01:10:45.920 Cross.

01:10:46.940 Cross is one of them.

01:10:47.980 There's also Cross, the state's attorney, which we still need to get to.

01:10:50.820 Cross gets 250.

01:10:52.000 Floyd gets 150.

01:10:54.480 No.

01:10:54.960 Or is that the Cross that we're talking about?

01:10:56.600 I never actually put that together.

01:10:57.880 Anyway, we'll ask in one second.

01:11:01.260 Then Ashley Merchant says they went to Australia in December.

01:11:03.820 They did.

01:11:05.240 OMG.

01:11:05.600 They went to Belize, Australia, Bahamas, Napa, Panama City Beach, Royal Caribbean, Norwegian

01:11:10.080 cruise lines.

01:11:12.280 These are, these are new ones.

01:11:15.060 Then she says, okay, I'm subpoenaing Chris Campbell and Nathan's office staff.

01:11:18.720 I fear it would look suspicious if I did not also subpoena you, but I plan on putting Nathan

01:11:23.660 and Fannie on the stand and only have others under subpoena for backup. 0.99

01:11:27.560 I will leave you out, but think if I don't subpoena you, it would look fishy.

01:11:30.960 What do you want me to do?

01:11:31.840 I'm okay with it, he says.

01:11:34.700 He understands he might have to take the stand and it might look weird if at least she didn't

01:11:38.240 hit him with a subpoena.

01:11:40.240 She says, it is my hope that they do the right thing before then.

01:11:43.480 He responds on 124.24.

01:11:46.380 You are my friend and I trust you.

01:11:47.940 They will not, meaning do the right thing. 0.99

01:11:50.880 They're arrogant as F.

01:11:53.380 She thinks she won the other day when she didn't have to be deposed. 0.93

01:11:57.060 Hold on.

01:12:02.880 Okay.

01:12:03.600 One more.

01:12:04.580 One more.

01:12:05.900 2-2-24.

01:12:08.040 Jumping forward.

01:12:10.400 She says, I talked to Robin, by the way.

01:12:13.220 She and you may be the only ones who knew about the cohabitation in East Point prior to

01:12:18.460 Fannie becoming DA, which was 2020.

01:12:22.300 Then he says, Gabe called me out of the blue.

01:12:25.440 Remember we told you about Gabe?

01:12:27.520 Gabe is the one whose wife, he's friends with Nathan.

01:12:30.240 His wife works for Fannie. 0.80

01:12:31.920 She says, wow.

01:12:33.380 I wonder if they're circling the wagons trying to reach out to everyone who knew.

01:12:37.180 He says, not sure.

01:12:38.320 Haven't called him yet.

01:12:40.000 We'll let you know after the call.

01:12:42.100 She says, interesting.

01:12:42.880 I haven't reached out to him.

01:12:43.820 I haven't sent him a subpoena yet.

01:12:46.140 Is he still friends with Fannie?

01:12:48.440 Response.

01:12:49.300 Phishing.

01:12:50.300 Said he read an article that listed me as a source.

01:12:52.880 I asked him to send me the article.

01:12:54.400 She says, phishing. 0.92

01:12:55.700 Probably read something showing everyone we subpoenaed.

01:12:59.080 I can't imagine he would lie to protect either of them.

01:13:02.600 Terrence responds, he is.

01:13:04.760 She says, going to lie to protect them?

01:13:07.160 He would risk his license for them?

01:13:09.040 That is insane.

01:13:10.760 He responds, he is going to say he doesn't know.

01:13:13.960 And it ends shortly thereafter.

01:13:18.220 Let me see.

01:13:21.100 Okay.

01:13:21.480 Sorry.

01:13:21.960 One other thing.

01:13:24.800 One other thing.

01:13:26.760 She says, this is interesting.

01:13:29.760 Two, four, 24.

01:13:31.880 Literally no AC privilege for conduct before the divorce.

01:13:36.900 Besides, now that he filed a fraudulent affidavit.

01:13:40.140 Keep in mind, in this case, Nathan Wade had responded and told the lies, what we think are lies, about when the relationship began.

01:13:46.560 Besides now that he's filed a fraudulent affidavit, you may actually have a duty.

01:13:52.720 She's speaking to his former lawyer and friend.

01:13:55.380 You may actually have a duty to alert the court to the fraud in the affidavit under the crime fraud because he lied under oath to facts you know to be false.

01:14:03.720 I'll look at that and let you know.

01:14:05.940 He responds, call me when you get this.

01:14:09.460 She says, let me know when you're free.

01:14:10.780 Thanks.

01:14:11.160 He says, okay.

01:14:12.580 My God.

01:14:13.740 Back with me now. 0.75

01:14:14.580 The man we have to thank for being able to bring this to you, among other things, in this case, wonderful reporting, Phil Holloway, who's, I mean, I don't know what kind of lawyer you are, Phil Holloway, but you're a damn good reporter and journalist.

01:14:25.020 I think you've got two hats to wear, and thank you so much for giving this to us and letting us read this on the air.

01:14:32.740 Well, it's quite something, and I'm glad you printed it all out because I didn't want to use that much paper.

01:14:39.320 It's a lot.

01:14:39.760 You know, there's a lot in there to digest, and one of the things that I wanted to point out, and you got into some of this, you know, this appears to be, you know, a collaborative effort.

01:14:49.980 You know, when Ashley Merchant is preparing to drop this motion to disqualify and is going to allege the affair, she says something in there to the effect of, you know, I'm frightened or I'm scared or I'm nervous or something along those lines.

01:15:03.780 And Bradley goes on to say, you know, like, you're one of the best lawyers I know, go be great.

01:15:10.720 And so he's encouraging her, and that was just earlier this year, if I remember the dates on those.

01:15:16.100 So this puts all of this into, I think, much clearer context.

01:15:22.320 The court's not going to have to be able to consider all of these text messages.

01:15:27.980 He can only consider the messages that were, I think, confronted by the witness in court and were confirmed that those were his texts and that things that had to do with a prior inconsistent statement.

01:15:42.100 But if you remember, the prosecutor had objected saying, you know, judge, under the rule of completeness, you know, you don't have all of the context.

01:15:49.700 And so guess what?

01:15:51.360 Okay, here you go.

01:15:52.300 This is all the rest of it.

01:15:53.600 If you want to satisfy about the rule of completeness, here it is.

01:15:56.820 It's all going into the court and into the court record.

01:15:59.220 So it's unclear if the judge is going to be able to consider everything that you just went over.

01:16:03.880 But certainly this does put it all into context.

01:16:06.580 And remember when Anna Cross and others were saying she has no good faith basis for raising these issues?

01:16:16.020 Obviously, we have a good faith basis when this witness is apparently helping her put together her pleadings and helping her investigate the circumstances surrounding this affair.

01:16:29.040 When did it start?

01:16:29.800 Who else knew?

01:16:30.520 What all is going on?

01:16:31.760 You know, so this is one of the places where she's getting her information. 0.91

01:16:34.960 This is what lawyers do.

01:16:36.480 And, you know, in Georgia, we don't have the ability to do pretrial depositions with witnesses.

01:16:42.320 If we did, we would have a hearing like yesterday, except there wouldn't be a judge and there wouldn't be a prosecutor objecting to every question.

01:16:49.620 And you can get into a lot of this stuff under oath.

01:16:52.760 So we are limited.

01:16:54.460 Our hands are tied here in Georgia in pretrial discovery and criminal cases.

01:16:58.960 So lawyers have to be creative in how they investigate things for their client.

01:17:04.960 And oftentimes it means finding somebody who has information that's willing to talk to you.

01:17:09.760 And so that's what's going on here.

01:17:11.100 And this is the good faith basis.

01:17:13.180 Yep.

01:17:13.500 So she had it.

01:17:14.820 And, you know, Father Willis comes in and says, you know, these, your pleadings are all lies.

01:17:20.800 I mean, she says that.

01:17:21.600 And, you know, so this is, we talked yesterday about Ashley Merchant is going to be able to clear the air.

01:17:27.980 She's going to be able to show that she has a good faith basis.

01:17:30.400 And no, she's not lying.

01:17:31.780 So, and this is it.

01:17:33.100 She's able to, she's able to get it all out.

01:17:36.740 This is absolutely stunning.

01:17:38.020 I have never seen this level of dishonesty by officers in the court in my life.

01:17:41.440 I mean, it's been a while since I've been in the courtroom practicing, but I practiced for 10 years.

01:17:47.120 I've never seen this.

01:17:48.840 I firmly believe it's my opinion.

01:17:51.440 You had not one, not two, but three officers of the court take the stand and lie.

01:17:57.580 Nathan Wade lied about when this affair began.

01:17:59.860 So did Fannie Willis.

01:18:01.400 I believe they lied about the cash payments, my opinion.

01:18:04.840 And Terrence Bradley, I believe was lying when he said he didn't remember any of those things.

01:18:08.580 This is four or five, six weeks ago.

01:18:10.780 He's this for six weeks ago.

01:18:12.540 He's you're my friend.

01:18:13.980 I want to help you keep my name out of it.

01:18:16.060 Here's all the stuff that happened today.

01:18:17.200 I don't recall.

01:18:18.220 I don't recall that text message you showed me does not reflect or refresh my, my recollection at all.

01:18:23.260 Keeps looking at Nathan Wade.

01:18:24.560 I mean, this is outrageous.

01:18:26.140 So, okay.

01:18:26.820 Maybe the judge can't technically consider all this, although I don't know why.

01:18:30.980 I mean, this whole thing would be, wouldn't this have been submitted to the judge in connection with the privilege objections that we had to go through?

01:18:37.080 Wouldn't he have seen his whole thing?

01:18:39.340 I don't, I don't think he did.

01:18:40.740 I think that the plan was to ask the witness questions.

01:18:45.260 And if the witness testified differently than would have been expected based on the, the text communications that you, and that's, by the way, not the only, clearly they were talking that this was just the, the written text version.

01:18:56.500 There's, you can read, when you read this, you can tell that they're having phone conversations and other things.

01:19:01.700 So, um, the expectation was, is that he would testify, uh, to the things that you just went over in this text, um, lengthy text thread.

01:19:11.040 And, um, and so when that didn't happen, he was confronted with the, some of the texts that would have, um, been meant to directly refute his testimony or to say, look, this is a prior statement.

01:19:21.920 Okay. So let's say, so, so perhaps I was wrong that the judge knows all the stuff I was reading.

01:19:27.360 He knows a portion of this stuff, but the problem for him is given the news you just gave us that the Georgia state Senate has subpoenaed these text messages, which I just read to you.

01:19:37.420 The judge is going to hear that. Like there's, they're about to become a public record and there's no, he doesn't want to embarrass himself.

01:19:45.800 He's still a human being. He's going to see the news articles about all of this and has got to make sure he doesn't look like a fool in going with, well, the CNN version. 0.88

01:19:59.400 Terrence Bradley said he didn't remember anything. So I can't really put any weight on this allegation. Like that's not going to happen now.

01:20:08.140 Well, this is, this goes back to something I've said from almost day one.

01:20:13.740 What's this whole thing about the affair and the money and all that broke. I, if I'm the judge, I'm probably going to halt the proceedings and I'm going to figure out some way to order an independent thorough investigation.

01:20:26.320 Because I need to know if I'm the judge is a fraud being perpetrated on my court. It's not going to happen on my watch. And if it's this serious, you know, I'm not going to leave it to the defense lawyers who are limited in their investigative resources.

01:20:42.000 As, as, as good as these lawyers are, you know, we don't have the resources that cops have, that prosecutors offices have, that the attorney general has. I'm going to, if I'm the judge, I'm going to figure out somebody who has these resources that can bring these people in, question them, find out the truth of the matter.

01:21:00.780 How did this whole thing come up? When was the affair? Did people lie? If a, if a fraud has been perpetrated on my court, I'm going to want to get to the bottom of it.

01:21:11.260 This is a unique situation. I've never in my life seen or heard anything like this. I was talking with a judge friend of mine yesterday at lunch. He and I agree.

01:21:20.780 This would be a fantastic ethics kind of exam for bar, for a law school, because it's so complicated and there's so many different ways to look at this. So many angles to go down.

01:21:32.080 We've got to get to the bottom of it. And I think it's going to require an independent investigation at this point.

01:21:37.640 Yes, because if there isn't one with all due respect to Judge McAfee, who I believe has been doing a good job, he's going to look very foolish if he doesn't have this thoroughly investigated.

01:21:49.200 We may have as many as three officers of the court perpetrating a fraud on the court. And if he just resolves it by saying, oh, not enough evidence to disqualify them, he's going to look like a fool. 0.98

01:22:02.840 He can't allow that. That's just for his own dignity, for the dignity of the court, which must be respected lawyers, witnesses in general cannot get away with this.

01:22:12.220 This is well beyond whether these two need to be disqualified, really.

01:22:17.600 They really need an investigation on whether they should be disbarred, disciplined at a minimum, and potentially could be facing criminal charges if an independent investigator finds these were material representations made under oath, knowingly false.

01:22:31.660 That's what perjury is in the state of Georgia.

01:22:33.440 This is just not Terrence Bradley. I don't recall. I don't recall. I don't recall does not get you a perjury charge, which is why he answered that way.

01:22:43.720 But listen, he did not do the ethical thing yesterday. He didn't. He should have done what he did in these texts.

01:22:50.640 And if he's embarrassed about it, he should have admitted that.

01:22:52.540 It's not a get-out-of-jail-free card to say, I don't recall.

01:22:56.780 All right, I've got to do two things. I've got to take a quick break, but we've got to get to what's happening with Anna Cross.

01:23:02.040 She is—there are three special prosecutors Fannie brought in. Nathan Wade's one of them.

01:23:06.640 Floyd is another one. And Anna Cross is the third.

01:23:09.740 Anna Cross is the one who took Terrence Bradley's testimony.

01:23:14.340 She did his cross-examination on Feb 16, nowhere to be found when he resumed the stand.

01:23:22.280 And her name is not on their most recent filing. Why?

01:23:27.420 How many lawyers in this case are worried about perpetrating a fraud on the court?

01:23:33.060 And who, if anyone, said, I'm not going to be part of it?

01:23:36.560 Coming back with Phil right after this quick break.

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01:24:37.020 Let's talk about Anna Cross.

01:24:42.580 She was one of the three special prosecutors brought in when the state filed its opposition to the motion to disqualify Willis and Wade.

01:24:50.220 And that was the motion that had Nathan Wade's affidavit saying the affair began only in 2022.

01:24:56.660 And, you know, there's nothing to see here.

01:24:58.660 It was signed, first and foremost, by Fannie Willis, district attorney.

01:25:04.780 The very next signature on it is Anna Cross, special prosecutor.

01:25:08.920 Then comes Nathan Wade, special prosecutor.

01:25:11.000 Then comes Johnny Floyd, special prosecutor.

01:25:13.180 And so on.

01:25:13.920 So Anna Cross was the next signatory right after Fannie Willis onto that brief.

01:25:20.380 But then, as I point out, even though this woman here was the one we'd been hearing most from during the 1516 hearing, she wasn't there when Terrence Bradley took the stand yesterday.

01:25:34.700 And it was her witness, normally the same lawyer, right?

01:25:38.140 She wasn't there.

01:25:39.520 And then I went back and took a look at the state's objection to all those phone records they tried to submit on Friday.

01:25:48.460 The state filed an objection to that, I think, late Friday night.

01:25:51.760 Looking at the signatory here, who signed that?

01:25:55.820 She's been on all these briefs.

01:25:57.080 This one, Fannie Willis' number one.

01:25:59.200 There's only one co-signatory, and it's Adam Abate, who is, he is the chief deputy district attorney.

01:26:08.180 Neither of the other special prosecutors, certainly not Anna Cross.

01:26:12.900 And indeed, it was this guy, Adam, who was there handling the Terrence Bradley cross yesterday.

01:26:19.320 So what happened to Anna Cross?

01:26:24.600 Well, so we don't really know.

01:26:27.060 I don't want to get too far out over my skis.

01:26:29.860 It could be that she's a private lawyer.

01:26:33.800 She's not.

01:26:34.600 This is why this is so weird.

01:26:36.520 There's all these people.

01:26:38.060 Adam Abate is a full-time employee.

01:26:40.500 He doesn't get paid by the hour.

01:26:42.440 Nathan Wade gets paid by the hour.

01:26:44.360 Anna Cross has a contract.

01:26:45.720 She got paid by the hour.

01:26:46.820 But it's so weird because you've got these people that are private lawyers, but on the other hand, they're also prosecuting, you know, one of the biggest cases in Georgia history for the Fulton DA's office.

01:26:58.100 Extremely unusual.

01:26:59.840 Anyway, it could be that she's busy. 0.99

01:27:02.040 She's got other things going on.

01:27:03.420 She's got her own clients. 0.97

01:27:04.400 She's got her own cases. 1.00

01:27:05.320 She's got things in other courts and other jurisdictions. 0.99

01:27:08.640 And so there was an email that I'm privy to that was recently sent to all the lawyers in the case just in the last few days where Cross had said she was not going to be there yesterday.

01:27:20.560 And she has essentially said that she's unavailable that day because she said it was short notice.

01:27:27.260 And she's unavailable for the next few weeks, I think it is, because of other things that she's working on.

01:27:32.940 So that's really all we know.

01:27:36.040 Whether and when she comes back, we'll just have to wait and see.

01:27:41.140 But for the time being, you're right, she's not been on any of this.

01:27:45.680 And the timing is interesting because it's right about the time when the defense starts presenting direct evidence that contradicts Bonnie Willis' testimony under oath.

01:27:57.020 When I was an assistant district attorney, if my boss, the DA, had asked me to participate in a proceeding and I thought that he had committed a fraud on the court, I couldn't be a part of it.

01:28:09.300 I would have had to quit.

01:28:10.160 The same way as if a client wants to take the stand and lie, I can't let him do that.

01:28:16.580 A lawyer can't participate in a fraud.

01:28:19.160 And so if she believes that that's what's happening, then I think she would have a duty to withdraw from the case.

01:28:26.240 On the other hand, if she doesn't believe it, then maybe she's going to come back in two or three weeks.

01:28:31.040 We'll just have to wait and see.

01:28:32.140 But that's what's going on.

01:28:33.200 It does seem awfully fishy.

01:28:34.300 She's busy. 0.52

01:28:34.920 This is the biggest case in the nation that's going on right now.

01:28:37.900 She knows that she's busy, too busy to resume her witness's testimony on the stand.

01:28:43.300 I've got doubts.

01:28:44.940 I've got to get this in.

01:28:47.220 He.

01:28:50.040 You heard what what Terrence Bradley sounded like in those texts with Ashley Merchant.

01:28:54.340 Take a listen to him stumbling as I believe he was not being honest on the stand yesterday.

01:29:00.180 All right.

01:29:00.560 This is not 10.

01:29:02.320 That's a simple question, Mr. Bradley.

01:29:04.140 You're a lawyer.

01:29:04.700 Did you lie to Miss Merchant when you told her facts about Mr. Wade and Miss Millis' relationship?

01:29:16.940 Not that I recall.

01:29:18.860 I don't recall.

01:29:20.200 I mentioned earlier that I speculated on some things.

01:29:32.560 I've testified to what I did know.

01:29:36.800 So I can't recall whether or not.

01:29:42.840 No.

01:29:44.000 Mr. Bradley, speculation is kind of a weaselly lawyer word.

01:29:47.200 Let's speak truth here.

01:29:48.320 When you were communicating different details of the relationship between Miss Willis and Mr. Wade to Mrs. Merchant, did you lie to her about any of those details?

01:29:58.400 I don't recall ever whether any of it was a lie or not.

01:30:05.360 Now, having seen the full text, Phil, I mean, that just is so impossible to believe.

01:30:11.980 You don't recall whether it was a lie when you said, make sure you get the early security detail, the one she had in 2020.

01:30:17.620 They're going to know the most.

01:30:18.540 Her kids know.

01:30:19.400 Like the level of detail that we've now seen just puts the lie to what he was saying, in my view.

01:30:24.480 Well, he did say, he says, you know, did you did you lie to Mr. Merchant?

01:30:29.900 The words are not that I recall.

01:30:32.160 So, you know, if he's not lying, if he says he's not lying to Ashley Merchant, then he's not lying when he says he's absolutely certain that the affair began, you know, prior to her taking office.

01:30:43.120 That's that would be my takeaway.

01:30:44.640 That's the I think it's how it's a perfectly fair reading of this and what's going on.

01:30:49.760 And it would seem to confirm the the validity and the truthfulness of the text exchange, where he essentially tells that actually that these people are lying under oath.

01:31:01.740 So, yeah, this is all, you know, you got to have context.

01:31:06.720 And sometimes in courtrooms, because you have people standing up and making what we call speaking objections and they object, they don't cite, you know, the rule of evidence.

01:31:16.260 They don't cite what the legal basis is for the objection.

01:31:18.620 It's just an objection to slow it down, to throw up a roadblock, to to try to derail somebody's train of thought when they're cross-examining it.

01:31:27.980 You don't get sometimes in court, you don't get the whole truth.

01:31:30.640 You don't get all of the context.

01:31:32.840 And so now when you when you have this information that we've obtained through other sources and other means, we now get to see the whole thing.

01:31:41.740 We got the color context.

01:31:43.060 We can put it all in perspective and we can see what's really going on.

01:31:47.340 So we we can finally understand what looks like the truth is going to be.

01:31:51.800 That's right.

01:31:52.420 And honestly, a reminder to the audience that him saying her kids knew or this person was in an affair or whatever, that doesn't make it so.

01:32:00.840 It's it's showing what was in Terrence Bradley's head and that it was communicated to Ashley Merchant and gave her a good faith belief for following filing this motion and also shows, I believe, how dishonest he was being in not recalling any detail.

01:32:17.920 Literally a few weeks after he provided this level of specification on her questions and just volunteering.

01:32:27.120 So, Phil Holloway, thank you again.

01:32:29.180 I'm sure we're going to be back again very soon.

01:32:32.260 And we are going to reach out to the relevant players mentioned in these texts and see if we can't get them to weigh in as well.

01:32:39.220 All the best, my friend.

01:32:40.700 Always happy to be here.

01:32:41.660 Good afternoon.

01:32:42.840 All right.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - February 28, 2024

REVEALED： All the Texts About Fani Willis and Nathan Wade Relationship Between Lawyer and Witness, with Phil Holloway ｜ Ep. 733

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