00:05:00.220And so while I was preparing, I mean sort of mentally and spiritually to come and meet you, I was thinking that both of us have moved through the culture in ways that are comparable, have been very close to its sort of what one might call its centre.
00:05:14.800Because I was going to use the word heart, but heart doesn't seem quite the right word for the culture because heart is perhaps what it's most lacking.
00:05:21.000And it's exciting and interesting to speak with you because I know that you will recognise themes and trends that I've experienced.
00:05:29.920Yes, very much so. I mean, watching your evolution has been very interesting to me because I didn't know you other than as a celebrity back then. But when you came onto the set, you had so much energy, positive energy. You were so kind. And I was in the midst of a terrible year there because it didn't go well for me at NBC. I wasn't liked by virtually any celebrities. And yet I found myself immersed in them.
00:05:52.000and it was so rare to have somebody come on the set
00:05:55.240and be so nice to me and like so complimentary.
00:05:58.860And I remember being like, I love Russell Brand.
00:06:01.360And actually somebody asked me a couple of years after that,
00:06:03.740who was my favorite celebrity who I met,
00:22:01.380And I understand now that there are consequences to that.
00:22:04.400Can we talk about we can circle back on the on the allegations, but let's just talk about how you got to be you, because I have a terrible mistake.
00:22:13.280Megan, what's happened? Having read more about your background, your whole story came into more clear focus for me.
00:22:21.620So it wasn't an ideal childhood. Your dad wasn't really present.
00:22:26.280Your mom went through a lot while you were young, and forgive me for raising it so casually, but you also were the victim of sexual abuse, my understanding is.
00:22:34.960So that's a lot for anybody's first 18 years.
00:22:38.480How would you describe your childhood?
00:22:41.200Well, I suppose because I have the blessing of being in 12-step recovery now, I encounter people on a daily basis that have suffered enormously, enormously.
00:22:50.160and i have the privilege of very uh dedicated imperfect parents like my children have got very
00:22:56.880dedicated and imperfect parents my father ron brand he did his best but he was on his own mission
00:23:01.900he lost his own father when he was a baby when he was seven years old my mother as you've alluded
00:23:06.640to had cancer about five six seven times in a very short time frame that was in my childhood and
00:23:11.040you're right i did experience some sexual abuse um outside of the family when i was uh very young
00:23:17.840when I was seven and then again when I was a teenager um now because I'm aware that my doting
00:23:23.380loving parents god love them my dad in particular he'll watch he'll be watching this live if he
00:23:27.780knows I'm on it like I don't want to prioritize my own self-aggrandizement and my tendency to
00:23:35.200mythologize myself and to sort of lean into this idea that I come from a humble blue collar
00:23:41.540background and I overcame heroin addiction and crack addiction and all of that some of those
00:23:47.160things are true because now i recognize that who i've always been and who i am now is a broken
00:23:52.080person who my parents are a broken people and i was talking to my mom on the phone here and she's
00:23:56.260like this you know my mom who loved me was so happy when i've got to be famous because she
00:23:59.700thought oh look it all makes sense now that weird little kid that i was raising now he's famous and
00:24:03.980like look everyone loves him or you know at least some people love him um yeah so my childhood was
00:24:09.580chaotic and it was difficult and it was hard and i've always always felt desperately desperately
00:24:15.460alone and exiled here and broken and a lot of the time very very afraid and very very unhappy in the
00:24:21.660world and frankly when i became a drug addict it was a tremendous relief and any drug addict
00:24:27.740watching this or alcoholic will recognize what i'm saying it was the first time life made sense
00:24:31.780was when i was able to medicate internally and chemically the feelings of total abandon and
00:24:36.600loss here and that's really nobody's fault because i know people that have grown up in care and
00:24:41.040foster homes and with unbelievable horrific suffering and i know people that have grown up
00:24:46.180in opulence and splendor when did the drug start because i know you you found acting in high school
00:24:51.460yes and so when did the drug start after that yeah immediately after it's almost you recognize
00:24:56.040in your own life megan two tracks running simultaneously one where you're being guided
00:24:59.640by sort of almost one might say a heavenly hand and the other sort of pulling you back i sort of
00:25:03.960started smoking weed like any kid at 15 16 then it just escalated i had such an appetite for it
00:25:10.160every single drug well this is what i think might be somewhat significant is that i treated it like
00:25:14.880worship like i worshipped drugs i worshipped it i loved taking cocaine i loved heroin i was
00:25:21.600fascinated with heroin before i ever took it i really thought this is gonna be it this is gonna
00:25:25.980solve everything i was around the first time i took it was 19 i was dependent on it by the time
00:25:30.820i was i reckon 22 23 i got i got my first like real gig was i started hosting shows when i put
00:25:37.480on a 24 25 on mtv this was before i knew i was they were late at night i was in nightclubs
00:25:42.140and i would talk to people that it was when club culture was a big deal in europe and people taking
00:25:45.800like ecstasy and mdma molly you call it in your country i think and like people were off their
00:25:50.260faces and i would say like crazy stuff to them because i was high also but i was able to follow
00:25:55.380these very surreal and unusual rants what people didn't know is that while they were on ecstasy i
00:25:59.260was on crack and heroin and that was my first like little go at being famous and having money and not
00:26:03.920living on welfare and i exploded into that little life so quickly that i you know i hit a ceiling i
00:26:10.260hit parameter i crashed and burned real fast to the point where just i don't know it sounds like
00:26:15.000it was just prior to this but you you did your first acting gig in high school then you went to
00:26:19.000the royal academy of theater what do you call it what's the name of it interrada is what you're
00:26:22.700alluded to and i still feel a pang of disappointment even to hear its name mentioned i went to a place
00:26:26.460called drama center which is a very good school where people like pierce brosnan and simon
00:26:30.220and Callow. And who are these stars nowadays? Fassbender, Tom Hardy, like good actors went
00:26:36.680there. So like a very gritty Stanislavski based school. I went there and they loved me. They
00:26:41.120adored me. Then I went crazy. I took too many drugs. They threw me out. I could get thrown
00:26:44.420out of everywhere. Thrown out of the UK, thrown out of Hollywood, thrown out of every school I
00:26:48.840was ever at. But you kept landing on your feet. So you were young, you were in your young 20s when
00:26:53.040you found the glory of these drugs, which of course is always followed by something. I don't
00:26:58.680know what we call it but it's the opposite of glory and how long did it take you before you
00:27:02.240got clean off the drugs and sort of the sex addiction took it took their place oh well the
00:27:07.140sex addiction i have to say was you know like i got concurrent yeah but it gets worse without drugs
00:27:14.000you know because obviously there are impeding factors with if you're if you're dependent on
00:27:18.420heroin without going into too much graphic detail there are a number of obstacles to a successful
00:27:22.760sex life um but like i stopped taking heroin when i was like 27 and stopped drinking and by god's
00:27:28.180Grace became abstinent one day at a time through the 12-step programs, which are really the
00:27:32.440foundation of my spiritual life, thank God, because that's where you first learn that it's
00:27:35.960not really drugs you're addicted to. You're addicted to yourself. You're addicted to this
00:27:39.640particular perspective. You're addicted to control. You are so obsessed with who you are and what you
00:27:44.980want that you can't really be of any use to anybody in this world. That's what I learned
00:27:48.940anyway. But I only learned it briefly. And the thing is, is once I stopped taking drugs, my life
00:27:54.140improved radically in a number of ways. I became successful in my country. I got a bunch of
00:27:57.960tv shows and became quite celebrated in fact one might say it really took off like a rocket
00:28:02.660and there was a moment of real glory don't you remember megan wasn't there a bit when you first
00:28:07.140started to be successful it's like oh my god it's working i'm successful people see me a world that's
00:28:12.300continually saying no is now just saying yes yes yes you can host these awards you can have a book
00:28:17.380deal you can have your own shows it was so amazing when that happened but i think probably because of
00:28:23.260what I would now call a sort of false idolatry, I easily, or cross addiction might be an easier
00:28:28.860term, I drifted into just the worship factor, that tendency to worship really drifted into
00:28:35.360the availability of, you know, casual encounters. I mean, can you describe, because when you write
00:28:41.000about it in the book, you're very open about these addictions and the sex addiction details.
00:28:46.340By the way, we're speaking with Russell Brand and the book is How to Become a Christian in Seven
00:28:50.080days. You, you put it out there. And I, one of my questions was like with the number of women who
00:28:57.960you openly talk about having interludes with at a time in a day, several times a day, like this is
00:29:05.700all before you were young, but like there was no little blue pill. Like how does a man even
00:29:09.840keep up at that level? I have a real appetite for what I recognize now is God. And that's not unique
00:29:15.680to me. I think anyone that is an addict, and this is how the 12 step program describes it, Megan,
00:29:20.080really they are looking for god we are all looking for god we were made for god and by god we were
00:29:25.800made to love god now if you live in a culture and a world that denies the existence of god
00:29:30.600i personally was trying to defibrillate the dead and inert world into life through chemicals at
00:29:39.280first and then you know sex is a gift and sex used appropriately is a marvelous and wonderful1.00
00:29:45.240and holy experience but sex in the hands of an idiot is a sort of a dangerous tool so how i did1.00
00:29:51.520it is i've got a lot of energy i've got a lot of yes we can see that and a lot of gifts and but0.99
00:29:57.260those gifts must always be marshaled to the service of the highest good and if you don't know that and
00:30:02.780you use it essentially for self uh indulgence you will get in as it turns out very very serious
00:30:08.880trouble you will get in very serious trouble and you will hurt a lot of people wow just the other
00:30:12.880day in a 12 step environment i heard someone say that when you drink a bottle of jack daniels the
00:30:17.940bottle that once you put it down doesn't have any feelings about it when you start to do stuff like
00:30:22.540that in other areas of behavioral addiction obviously sex is what i'm referring to then
00:30:27.320you are creating a lot of ill will have you ever tried to put a number on the number of women who
00:30:32.860you've still got the fox skills there i'm curious the fox skills get a number get a stat um well
00:30:38.960all right let's think about this mathematically there was a sort of a period between like you
00:30:42.260I think I became sort of attractive in the late 90s,
00:30:44.820and I think that that attractiveness endured
00:38:26.120As somebody who's been on both sides of this and is currently in a loving marriage, which does, I hate to tell you, Bill, include lust, it's not like the first day, it's not like the first year, but it develops into something else.
00:38:41.860What Bill Maher, with all due respect to him, there is missing and living through is a self-perpetuated adolescence clinging to some injury or wound, I would imagine, that occurred around the time when, you know,
00:38:55.180and I speak as someone who belatedly received these lessons,
00:38:58.140what Bill Maher is missing is intimacy.
00:39:00.480You can achieve through promiscuity a kind of false intimacy
00:39:05.300that sort of feels kind of wonderful sometimes,
00:39:07.200particularly with the charge of sexuality around it.
00:39:09.800Especially the whole flight crew there.0.53
00:39:11.240Oh, man, there's nuts coming at you from every direction.
00:54:45.960So this whole text exchange is kind of illuminating to me.
00:54:50.520And I wonder, because this is somebody who claims she was in a relationship with you.
00:54:53.800She had had consensual sex with you.0.90
00:54:55.480that particular night she did not want to have sex with you and that you forced yourself upon her.0.72
00:55:00.760When you watch that and when you see that, what's your reaction to it?
00:55:05.220Well, I must say, Megan, it makes me uncomfortable, to tell you the truth,
00:55:10.380Because, as I've said, even whilst I believe that the challenge that I face is one of the misuse of being in a position where lots of people had sex with me, just to even see iterated, albeit by an actor in a documentary, which I think had an agenda, if that's my opinion about that.
00:55:36.140Nor is it journalistically sound to use an actor like that, but that's another problem.
00:55:39.840and also to shoot an actor in silhouette as well if it is an actor if it's an actor you don't need
00:55:44.320to shoot them in silhouette that shows that there's an intention and the type of music being
00:55:47.720used but yeah i suppose look i'm here in of course i sort of think about what's my motivation even
00:55:54.460i'm coming on your show what's my motivation am i falling again into the trap of wanting stuff
00:56:00.160wanting to be successful wanting to be powerful wanting to have influence wanting to get out of
00:56:06.040consequences of my actions and so what i have to say is my behavior which my position is was
00:56:14.400consensual and therefore non-criminal is definitely immoral and i suppose my job as a follower of
00:56:21.940jesus is to focus on how i can follow him more closely and i don't really megan get a lot of
00:56:29.540delight out of going that person said this but actually that although those things will be very
00:56:34.440important in the trial that i'm facing because that's the nature of it i'm being put into a
00:56:40.160criminal situation you know of it that's the nature of what i'm facing and do you know that
00:56:46.000i'm like will be literally in like a like a glass box like hannibal lecter like in the in the in
00:56:50.980the pre-trial one so like to me it's i'm in a sense trying to manage this in a number of different
00:56:56.260fields. In the judicial and legal one, it's a matter of, of course, demonstrating that the
00:57:04.780encounters that I had were consensual. In a public relations field, which is, I suppose, what I'm in
00:57:10.000now, I think I have to take the opportunity to say that I'm not saying, so what? These women are1.00
00:57:17.380lying. They wanted money. Who cares? I'm not like, that's not my position. My position is, yes, I1.00
00:57:22.520recognize that my conduct has caused harm and pain in in a in a pr situation like being on the
00:57:30.800megan kelly show my i think my role and my job is to make it very clear to people that that behavior
00:57:38.140as i describe it was not behavior that i would endorse but it's not non-consensual or coercive
00:57:48.600behavior however people obviously plainly as we just saw there albeit played by an actor they'll
00:57:53.580hurt by the encounters by me and so i've obviously got some work to do somewhere so what level of
00:57:58.240stress are you at about this criminal trial all right so sometimes it's unbelievable sometimes
00:58:03.920it's kind of unbelievable sometimes i can't sometimes i think if this can happen then anything
00:58:09.840can happen if look when i was coming in december october i think it's october the 7th the trial
00:58:17.020in the united kingdom um so it's sort of you know it's coming up close and i've got like a normal
00:58:23.100family i've got young children and all that kind of stuff so i'm living a normal life i'm working
00:58:27.220and sort of i'm part of my job is public facing and i'm assessing that and what contribution can
00:58:32.300i make and how has it impeded me and impaired me and slowed me down what are the positive things
00:58:37.380that have come from it like certainly it's been very very very humbling and confronting because i
00:58:41.600I've already recognized that sexual addiction is wrong.
00:58:44.960I've already recognized that as a married man or anyone in a committed relationship, I suppose,
00:58:50.040you've got to be straight and faithful.
00:58:52.960All of those lessons I kind of learned.
00:58:54.880But I believe in God, so all things are from God.
01:11:20.160If that stuff never comes to us, we remain boring, rather uninformed, weak, unprepared for some massive crisis that may be coming down the line.
01:11:30.480Each one of these that does get thrown to you as long as you don't even have to win.
01:11:34.400I mean, I'm not talking about like, okay, you go to prison for 10 years.
01:15:38.920So anyway, then he taped me, he released the tape.1.00
01:15:41.640It just was like this crazy, crazy ass shit time in my life.0.98
01:15:45.440But having said all that, it's water under the bridge. And I've been watching what Alex Jones has been doing lately, and I actually really appreciate it. I think he's been doing great shows and his messaging around the whole Israel thing has been must see. And I mean, like, like I said, from the beginning, he's been right about a lot.0.98
01:15:58.720Just today, there was a big piece of news last night.
01:16:03.000I don't know if you saw, Cash Patel announced
01:16:04.520that the Southern Poverty Law Center, the SPLC,
01:16:08.680which is supposed to be this great group
01:16:09.920that protects America from racism and all the isms.
01:16:13.720Like, they'll be the first to call you out
01:16:14.860if you're a terrible person so that everybody knows
01:16:26.580that they have been paying, paying members of the Ku Klux Klan, of the Aryan Brotherhood to go0.80
01:16:35.180infiltrate. They say, oh, it's just infiltrate. They're like inside sources. We didn't pay them
01:16:42.220to create the event, just to infiltrate. That's not what the indictment says. And they've been
01:16:48.280exposed now as basically paying the very people. They then look at their donors and say,
01:16:53.940pay me to protect you from that person I'm paying. I'm going to use your money to pay him to cause
01:17:00.340hell, including in Charlottesville, Virginia, at the Unite the Right rally that would just cause
01:17:07.240a massive headache for President Trump from the beginning of his first term, where he said,
01:17:11.360because there were skinheads there, but there were also people who were just pissed off that
01:17:14.680we were pulling down statues of like Confederate generals or just even Christopher Columbus.
01:17:19.360And Trump said, you know what? He said, not the white supremacists, but outside of them, there were very fine people on both sides. And that quote was used against him unfairly for many, many years and still is. Alex Jones. Okay, back in August of 2017, Charlottesville was a false flag run by Southern Poverty Law Center operatives who hired actors to pose as Nazis.
01:17:43.760Fucking, the guy, I could give you so many of these by Alex Jones.0.93
01:17:48.420After we did my interview with him, where it did get contentious, but I spent days with him, he said so many things.0.99
01:19:23.440It's very hard to stay present and assess when you're being emotionally stimulated.
01:19:27.760The whole culture is continually emotionally stimulated.
01:19:31.260Sexual imagery, imagery of violence and fear.
01:19:34.580These things create bewilderment and disorientation.
01:19:38.580You shouldn't consume too much of it, if any, at all, as a matter of fact.
01:19:43.180Over time and right now, AI and the Internet are creating something that's akin to a counterfeit consciousness.
01:19:51.340Remember Carl Jung saying that we have a collective unconscious.
01:19:55.420It's almost as if there's a repository for all of our thoughts.
01:19:57.980It says that we are all participants in the Holy Spirit, that all of us can share in God's grace and presence right now, that eternity is not just beyond time, but it is within and throughout time.
01:20:10.240Now, in creating this online Internet space where all consciousnesses and individuals can potentially interconnect with one another, we've created a kind of facsimile or counterfeit of a psyche.
01:20:22.000The psyche is generating the kind of shadow archetypes that Jung himself spoke about.
01:20:27.980And because we live in this materialistic, secular culture, we don't have the language or even the diagnostic tools to recognize these types.
01:20:37.440The dark woman that will tell you truths that people don't want to hear and uncomfortable about.0.94
01:20:43.520The ranting preacher that might say things that are sometimes crazy or prophetic.
01:20:49.180Have you looked at the prophetic language in the Bible, but has a great many truths to tell us?
01:20:54.240the thoughtful Khan, the meaty, solid warrior that thoughtfully pontificates and interrogates
01:21:02.720people. Our internet online new media space is like a new consciousness inhabited with people
01:21:09.140like you and me and Tucker that have lived for a while in the old media and then these other
01:21:14.300creatures that came from the periphery or were born within it. But there are great truths that
01:21:19.440are being told by you with your understanding of litigation and systems of justice media you have
01:21:24.940a great deal to offer tucker with his background there that's sort of deep deep embedded in systems
01:21:31.180of state and power and media and journalism those outlier characters like jones you can see that guy
01:21:37.360when he's on there 25 or 30 turning up protesting against wars telling us way before 9-11 that it
01:21:43.420was going to happen and who was going to have done it if you dismiss that person or if you condemn
01:21:48.240that person or if you try to control or shut down that person. There may be reasons for it,
01:21:52.980but those reasons are not going to be for your protection. And again, another useful paradigm
01:21:57.040for understanding this is what was the entire mentality behind the pandemic? We have to take
01:22:02.720these medicines and we have to go into our homes because life is sacred and we have to protect each
01:22:08.380other no matter what. We especially have to protect the vulnerable. Well, where else do you see them
01:22:14.760operating and governing in order to protect the vulnerable i don't see it i see exploitation and
01:22:20.340i see control whenever they come to you saying that they want to protect you they actually want
01:22:24.640to control you and you know from your own life as a parent or someone who loves anybody the
01:22:28.880protection control are on a spectrum i want to protect my children and part of that is i have
01:22:32.820to control them but we are children of god we are not children of the state the state tells you there
01:22:38.880is no god the empire tells you that nothing is real if it can't be measured and then it acts like
01:22:44.400God. It wants to control every aspect of your life. And like God, it wants you to come innocently
01:22:48.660like little children. It wants to determine right and wrong. Even something like wokeism. And a
01:22:53.800couple of times you've said that I'm sort of right wing. And I would like to say that I don't
01:22:56.820agree with those taxonomies or labels anymore. I'm a follower of Jesus. And if more people follow
01:23:03.220Jesus, I believe the world will just naturally improve. Because as C.S. Lewis said, if you have
01:23:08.300lawyers that are Christian, they'll run the law in a Christian way. If you have media commentators
01:23:13.400they're christian they'll do their job every role could do with christ being in charge of it now
01:23:18.760what i see when you live in an anti-christ world where you deny connection where you deny eternal
01:23:23.040life where you deny the love of god where you say you're just a you're an insignificant set of
01:23:27.440molecules in infinite space that somehow has evolved to the point where it's even able to
01:23:32.080make that assessment which is one of the great paradoxes of atheism of course that the instrument
01:23:36.520with which you've deduced there is no meaning is itself a result of these meaningless procedures
01:23:42.400How can you ever make such an assessment while telling us they do that, that they can do that?
01:23:47.560Their rationalism always leads you to the same place, whether it's the bombast and, you know, let's face it, media brilliance of Donald Trump or the kind of sterile charisma of Barack Obama.
01:23:59.140It always leads to them being in control, you needing them, you paying too much tax,
01:24:06.540you ceding too much control, police forces that are disoriented and exhausted and not respected
01:24:13.480and not living in the communities that they're policing. We can change all of it. We can change
01:24:18.920it with ideas that people purportedly believe in already. We've got people in government telling us
01:24:23.820that they're Christian. Let's see the Christianity. Get back to that. Let's do it.0.99
01:24:28.360And people running every country in the world, more or less, that say they believe in democracy.
01:24:33.680Democracy, if it doesn't mean that we govern in accordance with the will of the people, means nothing.
01:24:39.060What democracy means, I have been taught these days, is these institutions that we control constitute democracy.
01:24:47.920We're going to put them all around the world and control them there.
01:32:52.800So I wonder then, what is this force, this power, that is so sufficient that it would even...
01:33:00.360See, don't you say something with great leaders and great people?
01:33:03.340All it is, is just for a moment, they're the temporary conductor.
01:33:06.200You know, Churchill, very fallible, broken, alcoholic, depressive, lunatic, who, not necessarily lunatic, but for a moment, was able to carry world opposition against, as best we can understand, this great force for evil.
01:33:21.020So with Trump, what do you suppose is happening?0.71
01:33:24.060Do you think bought in a sort of financial and economic way?
01:33:27.700Do you think compromised in the post-Epstein world?
01:33:31.840We all have to assume that it seems that people largely are.
01:33:34.400What is this power that is so large that it can wrangle this gargantuan male away from what seemed to be his evident trajectory to at least continue to consolidate a very large group of supporters?
01:33:51.200I mean, I think on Israel, in the Republican Party, there's never been any downside to being 100% pro-Israel.
01:33:58.020From the time I started at Fox News in 2004 until only very recently, in the Republican Party, there was no downside to saying you were 100% on Team Israel, to promote Israel, to go visit Israel, to take money from AIPAC.
01:34:11.960That was—no one in the Republican politics would ever second-guess it or judge it.
01:34:16.580it's only been more recent because, well, I mean, Gaza, I mean, that's really one of the main
01:34:22.620things. It was happening on the left prior to Gaza, but the violence that Israel unleashed
01:34:27.880on civilians in Gaza just got to pass the point where you could overlook it as a friend who was
01:34:33.980like looking at your friend who got attacked viciously on 10-7 and trying to look the other
01:34:37.480way. Like some of these civilian casualties are going to happen. It's war. It happened when we
01:34:41.440did wars too, but like to the point where it's like, geez, like this is out of control. Like it
01:34:47.740defended you a lot of times on the genocide claim, uh, you know, tens of thousands more and more and
01:34:54.380more. You're kind of undermining my ability to root for you, nevermind defend you. And I think
01:34:59.360Republicans started to feel it too. Young Republicans first, and they started to migrate
01:35:03.600away from Israel. So the stakes changed like this ardent support of Israel no longer became
01:35:08.180totally acceptable within Republican politics. And the coalition that was totally pro-Israel0.56
01:35:13.300started to fracture. The Democrats left, the independents left, the Republicans started to
01:35:17.540trickle away with the youth first going entirely, entirely. And now the only people who really
01:35:22.660support Israel are senior citizen Republicans. People basically are 65 or around there or older
01:35:29.240and Republican. Those are the ones who are still pro-Israel, which includes Trump. And he didn't
01:35:34.340get it. Like he did not have his finger on the pulse of where the party was on Israel. And still,
01:35:39.580I think, thought he could do something that would be great for Israel, which is start a war with0.96
01:35:44.220Iran. And it would go over well, that his core base would applaud him for it. And I believe him0.97
01:35:50.820that he never wanted Iran to have a nuclear weapon. I think those statements were sincere.
01:35:56.120But more than that, he promised no new wars and no wars in the Middle East, which last time I
01:36:00.220Act includes Iran. And so, but if Trump had looked at us and said, and Tulsi Gabbard had
01:36:05.080looked at us and Joe Kent had looked at us and the IAEA had looked at us and said, Iran is within
01:36:10.960a month of getting a nuclear bomb, the country would have stood behind Trump. We would have
01:36:15.300believed them, but that's not what happened. The IAEA and Tulsi and Joe Kent, they all said, no,
01:36:22.200they're not. They don't have the capacity to get a nuclear bomb. They're nowhere close to getting
01:36:25.760a nuclear bomb. And by the way, those strikes we did last June were very effective.
01:36:30.220in dismantling whatever nuclear program they had, whether it was civilian or not. And they'd been
01:36:33.980enriching beyond civilian needs. So it wasn't true that they were about to get it. If it had been,
01:36:40.540the country would have gotten behind him and we would have looked at that secret escape hatch from0.88
01:36:44.000No New Wars of unless Iran's about to get a nuclear weapon. It wasn't true. He used that0.86
01:36:50.280excuse that he had always said they can't have a nuclear bomb to do what Netanyahu wanted him to do
01:36:58.700and what Netanyahu convinced Trump to do,
01:44:54.480He has tried to do what a president can on crime.
01:44:57.320And I'm grateful for all those things.0.64
01:44:58.600But, you know, this other stuff, Epstein, Iran, the economy have been pretty disastrous.
01:45:04.820Okay, so it's like you are quite objective. And while I'm listening to you, I'm remembering that famous moment, I think, in the primaries where he said red eyes and red blood coming out of my eyes and out of my wherever.
01:45:16.340So it's a kind of like that's a kind of one of the most memorable and whoa, Trump kind of pop culture moments. But now from a it seems from a well versed studied and journalistic perspective, you're saying that Trump isn't fulfilling his pledge to his voter base.
01:45:34.160And what I'm curious about is the problem we have, Megan, as content creators, is that we can just live in the mad vicissitudes of never-ending conflict and just sort of find a path through it.
01:45:46.820Someone's telling me, oh, a lot of people think that Tucker has become more expressive or condemnatory of Trump and in particular regarding foreign policy in Israel, obviously.
01:50:02.460I mean, you know, why are people not acknowledging that if the technology exists for all of us to carry digital ID, essentially 70 percent of the global population to get vaccinated overnight from either a made up or potentially not as threatening as it was presented disease, then why don't we collectively, particularly people that have extraordinary sway?
01:50:22.860And indeed, if you are about to face extraordinary attacks, it's precisely as a result of the influence and impact you could have.
01:50:29.820Why? I'm curious. Genuinely, it's a real question because I'm trying to understand it myself.
01:50:33.600What if these voices in independent media became overtly and deliberately active in politics?
01:50:40.760Doesn't that have the extraordinary salve of resolving these cultural issues instantly?
01:50:48.060i.e. if there is a community that wants to be run according in accordance with sharia law within
01:50:54.500some state somewhere then allow them to democratically do it if there is a community
01:51:00.240that want to have a sort of a trans utopia allow them to do it however in these communities we
01:51:07.380want to maximally run them in accordance with these principles in a sense what is the point
01:51:13.780of nations of this size and scale do you not consider that the rise of nationalism was itself
01:51:21.180a response to globalism and people beginning to sense that there was no natural national sovereignty
01:51:26.840in france or in germany or in sri lanka or in the united states of america and if you look at trends
01:51:31.200like for example the rise of agricultural protests it's an indication that through global bureaucratic
01:51:36.840edicts they're trying to control food sourcing yep and indeed then if there is a global problem
01:51:42.900perhaps because of the miracle of this new communication in which you are a leader that
01:51:48.420we could be advocating not just for a different incumbent in a corrupt system but a different
01:51:55.420system entirely and it's not that long ago 250 years or wherever it was since the establishment
01:52:00.060of your great country that even when the war of independence was won against the other country
01:52:04.660don't remember who lost it but i'm sure they had some good points and a reasonable king
01:52:08.540who was not syphilitic, syphilitic and mad.
01:52:13.240Many, like isn't it Patrick Henry, said we've got to go further.
01:53:55.440That, of course, was the original ideal anyway.
01:53:57.760That was the whole goal of having these little states that were experimental and a very small national federal government that would – we'd all join and that would be sort of – we'd have some basic ideals that would be enforced at that level.
01:54:09.620But that each state could have its own personality and its own laws and its own culture.
01:54:14.860That was always the vision for America.
01:54:16.980It's only as the country went on that we got a more bloated and empowered federal government that we then ceded a bunch of powers, you know, from the congressional branch, which is the people's representative to the executive branch.
01:54:29.340It's gotten bigger and bigger under Obama, under Biden and now under Trump.
01:54:35.480I'd love to get back to where we have a very, very, very tiny, disempowered executive who really can't do much.0.97
02:01:03.060and false rape charges to get started.
02:01:04.920but then when i was showing my daughters the book cover i didn't want to have to explain to them
02:01:10.620so i changed it to serious f-ups yeah that and so that's what it means it means that and also
02:01:18.000coming christian it's not like you actually you already are a christian you've just forgotten
02:01:22.920because what it means is you're the follower of the way that's what it was called in the first
02:01:26.660place there is this way there is a righteous path you can see it's a neurological path if you want
02:01:31.480to because such things surely exist mris reveal that or you can see it as a geographical one
02:01:36.160or you can see it in a whole bunch of meridian myriad meridian ways but there is a path there
02:01:42.160is a way there is a calling there is a real you that you've always known you were and you got
02:01:46.660distracted at points by glamour and the things of this world but there is a home calling for you
02:01:51.900in a way the likes of you and me are participating in apostasy we are leaving a culture that told us0.99
02:01:58.240you are the golden and blonded goddess woman that's actually smart, you poor broken silly0.99
02:02:04.860little boy go out there and womanize, we can leave that false priesthood, we can leave that and we0.99
02:02:10.640can participate in something valuable and all it really is is God incarnated, God within you,
02:02:18.840you can know God yourself, you don't need brokerage, you don't need institutions whether
02:02:23.380They're vast and wonderful like the Roman Catholic Church or disparate and magnificent like the evangelical movement in this country or traditional like the Church of England in mine.
02:02:33.380You don't need that brokerage. He is here now with you.
02:02:36.940He died for you and he spent quite a lot of his time actually saying you lot that are saying you're the authorities are really misrepresenting the message as I understand it using the word with the Pharisees to demonstrate to them exactly how they've gone wrong.
02:02:49.620that there are two forces of power in this world babylon the power of empire that wants to control0.57
02:02:54.620you militarily and the pharisaic class that wants to control you ideologically and our lord he came0.85
02:02:59.540to oppose both of them and to let them know that they were both wrong and forgiven and that we as0.97
02:03:04.860individuals could follow him and what we have a chance to do and what i'm really trying to put
02:03:09.840across in this book actually and i'll shut up is it's in the bible all these things i thought i'd
02:03:15.460understood like i can't trust this system i need the mystery of god where is god i feel so alone0.63
02:03:20.140i'm so broken all the things i was looking for in lsd and false intimacy all the things i was
02:03:25.080trying to rant about at mtv vma awards it's all in there he's telling you it's all explained in
02:03:31.880his own language and i like it like when he came to me he came to me as a feeling in my abdomen in
02:03:37.760my gut it came in an instant a suicidal moment i knew christ was real like jesus from school
02:03:43.800and nativity plays and boring oh no domine that's it's real and from that moment on i had to read
02:03:50.780the bible and i read it and then i learned oh my god all of it is all in here it's all real
02:03:55.480and it's so close to being crazy it's so close to being crazy it's so close to folklore and
02:04:01.080mythology but these edgeland ideologues that we've cited already today the alex joneses who
02:04:07.840is a christian of course or david ike who's vehemently opposed to christianity tell you
02:04:11.940continually there are demonic, difficult to detect forces that are controlling our reality
02:04:17.440supernaturally. They tell you that institutions are controlled by occultist endeavors. They tell
02:04:23.640you that there are paedophile cults sacrificing children. None of that's not in the Bible. Every0.96
02:04:27.620single thing that I've just said is in the Bible. There are demons, there are devils, there are
02:04:31.020angels, there were giants. To conquer those giants, you're going to have to think different.
02:04:35.680You're going to have to think different. Ah, the sad ingenuity of Steve Jobs wrestled towards just
02:04:41.820making gadgetry when he understood something vital connection and extension of yourself through
02:04:47.880technology could bring about his kingdom the merging of the kingdoms a new kingdom is coming
02:04:55.000it's changing it's happening now it's happening now through eternity in this moment now through
02:05:00.920him and we can be participants in it if we're and this is where it's wonderful because everyone
02:05:05.320thinks what can i do like you just said i'm just a cog in the mission and all of that well you're
02:05:08.780actually a pretty important cog you're a vital cog you are a perfect cog you're interconnecting
02:05:13.360actually you specifically megan beloved megan kelly are connecting with millions and millions
02:05:17.900of people and people actually really care about what you're saying and if they hear your optimism
02:05:21.740and your faith and your boldness and your bravery which they are hearing every day then they will
02:05:25.940understand it they will know it you're the sheep will hear their the shepherd's voice they will
02:05:31.520hear it in you they're hearing it now even in someone as broken as messed up as selfish as0.90
02:05:36.420foolish as me they know right we all have those foibles expressed in different sins and different0.92
02:05:42.420mistakes but we all have those foibles and speaking of katie perry hold on that was pretty skillful0.92
02:05:48.920go on well i wonder i've met doug now and i like him yeah i'm gonna read them books of dougs i
02:05:55.220think you'll really enjoy them historical novel plus he's double handsome yeah right double dutch
02:05:59.320handsome you said he looks like a dutch he looks like a dutch he is dutch and he looks dutch he's
02:06:04.080tall he's got the wide set eyes he's got the angular face touch that dutch now but check first0.94
02:06:09.540don't put them clogs on without asking don't you put that finger in that dike without asking0.81
02:06:14.580don't you spin them windmills well don't you got that and frank museum who talked about a finger
02:06:19.620in a dike that's a dutch story i'm just kidding sorry gotta be careful these days i went with it
02:06:24.440um although look about where you're gonna go and you'll see a double joke uh because you're gonna
02:06:30.480go back to your subject yes right and the last thing i said was oh that's true you're gonna say0.91
02:06:34.900okay so well how what is it like to have your ex-wife dating dyke justin trudeau0.63
02:06:39.820i've put up with a lot with that ex-wife of mine but you took it too far kp with true orlando bloom0.77
02:06:48.620yeah respectable legolas i love that guy yeah brilliant good fair enough trudeau though
02:14:16.880It's like, how are you supposed to, after all that time, or what happened to Justice Kavanaugh, our Supreme Court justice who got accused of sexually molesting a woman 30 years early?
02:14:25.420Like, you have no papers to show where you actually were that day.
02:14:28.560You don't have a contemporaneous memory of, I absolutely was not doing that with you because I was at a Starbucks and here's my receipt.