The Megyn Kelly Show - October 07, 2026


Russia Plague Mystery Grows, Fort Hood Killer Gets Firing Squad, Major France Unrest: AM Update 10⧸7

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00:00:37.640 It's Wednesday, October 7th, 2026, and this is your AM update.
00:00:42.440 Anytime you hear that there's some disease that infected someone in a lab anywhere in
00:00:46.220 the world, you're going to be concerned about it.
00:00:48.040 New questions surrounding Russia's mysterious plague scare as U.S. officials press Moscow
00:00:52.180 for answers about what happened inside a Siberian research lab.
00:00:55.560 President Trump approving a firing squad for the Fort Hood killer, setting up the U.S. military's first execution in 65 years.
00:01:03.080 There's not enough teachers. The places in high schools are diminishing. They are not repairing the high schools. The conditions are really bad.
00:01:10.420 France rocked by its biggest student protests in decades. Hundreds of thousands in the streets, schools set on fire, thousands arrested, and growing questions over whether the far left is hijacking the unrest.
00:01:21.220 and NFL Hall of Famer Terrell Owens hit with a federal defamation lawsuit related to Nolan
00:01:26.760 Wells. All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM Update.
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00:02:40.600 A new and still unconfirmed report raising more questions about the possible plague scare in
00:02:45.300 russia as local media claiming a second person has died in the irkutsk region the daily mail
00:02:50.840 report citing russian media saying the unidentified person died at an irkutsk district hospital
00:02:56.060 after allegedly contracting plague a claim russian authorities have not confirmed it comes four days
00:03:02.280 after 28 year old researcher daria shipilova died after working at siberia's anti-plague institute
00:03:08.440 russian officials insisting her death was caused by pneumonia of unknown origin and that no plague
00:03:13.880 has been detected. Still, nearly 200 people who may have come into contact with Shepelova
00:03:18.700 have reportedly been placed under medical observation or quarantine, even as Moscow
00:03:23.340 maintains there is no confirmed plague cases. At the same time, some Russian news organizations
00:03:28.640 reporting about the suspected outbreak has been disappearing. Independent Russian outlet The
00:03:33.480 Insider, reporting federal network REN-TV, deleted all five of its posts about plague in the region,
00:03:39.920 while Commersant removed both a Telegram post and an online article
00:03:43.620 referring to U.S. concerns about a possible outbreak.
00:03:47.020 CNN, meanwhile, reporting on new disease control measures at a maternity hospital in the region.
00:03:52.320 A 29-year-old woman telling the outlet she was forced to switch hospitals at 40 weeks pregnant
00:03:56.840 after new quarantine restrictions prevented her husband from being with her during labor.
00:04:01.700 She says staff checked her temperature, examined her tongue, required a mask and hand sanitizer,
00:04:06.760 and gave her a questionnaire titled, quote,
00:04:09.500 Checklist for Suspected Highly Dangerous Infectious Disease Plague.
00:04:13.880 Now, international pressure mounts on Russia to explain exactly what happened at that laboratory.
00:04:18.900 Secretary of State Marco Rubio speaking Tuesday during a press event in Iceland.
00:04:23.200 Anytime you hear that there's some disease that infected someone in a lab anywhere in the world,
00:04:27.260 you're going to be concerned about it, especially given recent events not so long ago.
00:04:31.500 That said, it would be irresponsible for me here to sit and speculate
00:04:35.020 because we just don't have all the information yet.
00:04:37.520 I think it's incumbent upon Russia
00:04:39.020 to obviously share more information with the world.
00:04:41.580 And the more we can learn about what happened,
00:04:44.240 then the better all of us can be in a position of responding.
00:04:47.280 But I think it would be reckless at this moment,
00:04:50.000 given the limited information we still have,
00:04:52.080 to speculate about what this might or might not be
00:04:54.440 or what this is or what this isn't.
00:04:56.840 Secretary Rubio's call for more transparency
00:04:59.100 coming as the specific facility where Shepa-Leva worked
00:05:02.380 draws scrutiny of its own.
00:05:04.360 Investigative journalist Annie Jacobson, author of Biological War, A Scenario, and a 2016 Pulitzer Prize finalist, telling PBS NewsHour on Monday the institute has a history extending well beyond ordinary public health research.
00:05:17.640 This is an anti-plague institute, so they're supposed to be studying medical countermeasures to plague, like vaccines, antibiotics.
00:05:25.840 But this particular institute, we know from Soviet defector scientists, was used for biological weapons engineering during their illegal program.
00:05:35.980 We also know the State Department believes that that illegal biological weapons program has continued.
00:05:42.580 And so what they're really worried about is what is going on.
00:05:45.620 I mean, look, the facility has six-foot-high fences around it.
00:05:50.460 It's got concertina wire on top of that.
00:05:53.220 It's controlled in and out.
00:05:54.920 The idea that this worker broke a test tube and suddenly contracted pneumonic plague, which is inhalation plague, that does not entirely add up for somebody like me.
00:06:08.980 What I would be most concerned about is that their kind of one idea is that they could be milling the pathogen, making it aerosolized.
00:06:17.380 That gets you right into the world of biological weapons engineering.
00:06:22.340 Pneumonic plague infects the lungs and spreads through respiratory droplets.
00:06:26.420 The World Health Organization warning the disease can become deadly quickly without treatment.
00:06:31.040 That naturally is raising questions about how easily it can spread compared with COVID.
00:06:35.300 Jacobson explaining the difference and why a modified pathogen could behave differently.
00:06:39.820 COVID was airborne. It was aerosolized.
00:06:42.820 You could catch it in the air if you were in the room with someone that had COVID.
00:06:47.580 Pneumonic plague, again, Mother Nature's variant, that is pneumonic plague in the wild,
00:06:53.240 is what's called droplet transmissible.
00:06:56.060 So excuse the graphics here, but you have to actually like kind of spit on someone or,
00:07:00.840 you know, cough loudly at them.
00:07:02.660 And you would also have to be very sick to be doing that, which would make the likelihood
00:07:08.260 of your close proximity without some kind of PPE unusual.
00:07:13.580 But if genetic modifications are going on, all bets are off as to how transmissible it could potentially be.
00:07:22.500 For now, the World Health Organization saying there's no sign of a wider outbreak.
00:07:27.380 Russia telling the WHO no plague cases have been confirmed, while none of Shepelova's identified contacts have developed symptoms, according to Reuters.
00:07:36.020 The WHO assessing the risk as, quote, moderate to low in the region and, quote, low elsewhere in Russia and, quote, very low for Europe.
00:07:44.640 Russian authorities saying about 60 percent of Shepelova's contacts have been tested so far, finding two cases of COVID and two rhinovirus infections, but no plague.
00:07:53.780 The CDC, meanwhile, saying it is closely monitoring the situation, but sees no broader threat to the United States at this time.
00:08:00.180 President Trump approving death by firing squad for the former Army psychiatrist who
00:08:06.400 murdered 13 people at Fort Hood in Texas in 2009, setting the stage for what would be
00:08:11.320 the U.S. military's first execution in 65 years.
00:08:15.160 Secretary of War Pete Hegseth recommending the firing squad for former Army Major Nadal
00:08:19.860 Hassan, President Trump now giving his approval.
00:08:23.260 Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell announcing the decision Monday, saying the Secretary
00:08:27.260 of the Army will set the time and place of the execution.
00:08:30.180 Parnell writing, quote, Judgment Day for Hassan has finally come.
00:08:34.920 Hassan opening fire inside Fort Hood's Soldier Readiness Processing Center on November 5,
00:08:40.000 2009, targeting soldiers preparing for deployment overseas. Witnesses saying Hassan shattered Alu
00:08:46.260 Akbar before beginning the attack, killing 13 people and wounding 32 others. Hassan then
00:08:52.220 following fleeing soldiers outside, where civilian Fort Hood police officers Kimberly Munley and
00:08:57.260 Mark Todd confronted him. Munley wounded during an exchange of gunfire, Todd shooting Hassan and
00:09:03.120 bringing the rampage to an end. Investigators later testifying that Hassan still had 177
00:09:08.860 unfired rounds in his weapons and extra magazines when he was captured, along with a second handgun
00:09:14.620 he never used. Hassan left paralyzed from the waist down when he was subdued, now using a wheelchair.
00:09:20.900 The army psychiatrist had been preparing for his own deployment to Afghanistan later that month.
00:09:25.860 Hassan later acknowledging in court that he carried out the attack,
00:09:28.560 saying he believed he had been on the wrong side of a war against Islam
00:09:32.100 and wanted to protect Taliban fighters from the U.S. military.
00:09:35.840 A military panel convicting Hassan in August 2013 on 13 counts of premeditated murder
00:09:41.080 and 32 counts of attempted premeditated murder, then unanimously sentencing him to death.
00:09:46.960 His case spending more than a decade moving through the military appeals process,
00:09:50.980 the Supreme Court declining last year to hear his challenge to the conviction.
00:09:54.820 Under military law, however, a death sentence cannot be carried out until it's personally approved by the President.
00:10:00.140 That approval now coming from President Trump, beginning a process the military has not completed since the Kennedy administration.
00:10:06.300 The last U.S. service member executed by the military was Army Private John Bennett,
00:10:11.540 hanged at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, on April 13, 1961, after being convicted of rape and attempted murder.
00:10:18.200 The military's last known execution by firing squad going back even further, to November
00:10:22.780 1945, when an execution was carried out by what military records described as, quote,
00:10:27.820 musketry.
00:10:29.340 Firing squads also remaining exceedingly rare outside the military.
00:10:33.460 South Carolina carrying out three firing squad executions last year, the first anywhere in
00:10:37.960 the United States since Utah used the method in 2010.
00:10:41.820 Hassan can still pursue a federal habeas challenge and seek a stay of execution.
00:10:47.520 Coming up, France's student unrest spiraling, thousands arrested, schools damaged, and questions growing over the far left's role in the protests.
00:10:56.140 And NFL Hall of Famer Terrell Owens facing a federal defamation lawsuit after publicly calling for the arrest of three young men already cleared of criminal wrongdoing in the Nolan Wells case.
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00:12:57.320 France now dealing with its biggest student protest movement in decades.
00:13:02.460 Hundreds of thousands taking to the streets Tuesday as demonstrations that began at a single high school outside Paris spread across the country in barely two weeks.
00:13:10.880 France's interior ministry estimating 256,000 people joining demonstrations nationwide, including 56,000 in Paris.
00:13:19.120 Student organizers claiming the number was even higher at roughly 450,000.
00:13:24.240 The unrest reportedly beginning September 17th at a high school in the Paris suburb of Crite.
00:13:30.020 Students joining striking teachers demanding more staff and resources.
00:13:34.320 The school eventually getting additional workers and ending its strike,
00:13:37.360 but similar protests already beginning to erupt at other schools around Paris before spreading nationwide.
00:13:43.080 More than 1,200 schools becoming involved at the height of the unrest.
00:13:46.640 Students complaining of teacher shortages, overcrowded classrooms, crumbling buildings,
00:13:50.560 and classes cancelled because absent teachers are not being replaced, according to Reuters.
00:13:55.900 Here, in translated footage, French students telling Fox News why they are protesting.
00:14:00.640 There's not enough teachers. The places in high schools are diminishing.
00:14:05.380 They are not repairing the high schools. The conditions are really bad.
00:14:09.600 Enough is enough. We can't just sit back and take it anymore.
00:14:13.220 And that we truly want to demand certain essential things that are absolutely necessary in a high school.
00:14:19.200 We just want more rights and equality, whether in Paris or in rural areas.
00:14:23.620 We want everyone to have the same opportunities.
00:14:26.180 The demonstration is increasingly spilling far beyond peaceful school protests.
00:14:30.660 Trash cans, desks, and barricades set on fire.
00:14:33.780 Police confronting groups of protesters with tear gas, batons, and riot control weapons.
00:14:38.480 A school partially burned in Nantes, another damaged by fire in Le Havre,
00:14:42.800 while protesters outside Marseille High School reportedly forcing firefighters from their truck before setting the vehicle ablaze.
00:14:49.200 Reuters reporting approximately 6,100 people arrested since the unrest began, most of them teenagers, while at least 215 young people, 85 school employees, and more than 700 police officers have been injured.
00:15:02.460 The explosion of violence fueling questions of whether the student movement is being hijacked by outside political groups.
00:15:08.300 Prime Minister Sébastien Lecornu accusing France Unbowed, or LFI, of what he called its far-left proxies of helping orchestrate the unrest.
00:15:16.380 his office pointing to French intelligence reporting to make the case.
00:15:20.560 LFI is the country's main hard-left party,
00:15:22.900 led by presidential candidate Jean-Luc Mélenchon,
00:15:25.900 who has reportedly strong support among young voters.
00:15:28.900 LFI denying it orchestrated the protests,
00:15:31.800 insisting it supports peaceful demonstrations
00:15:33.740 and accusing the government of trying to discredit students
00:15:36.560 rather than address their complaints.
00:15:38.760 President Trump now weighing in,
00:15:40.400 rejecting the premise that the unrest is fundamentally about France's schools.
00:15:43.880 The president writing on True Social yesterday,
00:15:46.380 What's happening in France is nothing less than out-of-control mass migration.
00:15:50.900 This isn't about schools. This is about Islam wanting to take over a once-great country.
00:15:57.280 NFL Hall of Famer Terrell Owens facing a federal defamation lawsuit from three young men who were investigated but never charged in connection with the death of Nolan Wells.
00:16:07.000 Wells disappearing during a Fourth of July boat trip to Horn Island in Mississippi, his body found in the water two days later.
00:16:14.620 According to the complaint, about 30 friends traveling to Horn Island by boat on that day.
00:16:19.420 Wells staying behind, telling his friends he wanted to talk to a girl at the end of the outing.
00:16:23.840 Three of the friends in the group, Warren Hudson, Jax Patalo, and Morgan Seymour,
00:16:27.840 who are all under the age of 21, later becoming the focus of online accusations surrounding Wells' death.
00:16:33.340 The young men say they left Wells' phone on one of the boats, calling authorities once they realized he had not returned.
00:16:39.900 All three deny ever touching or tampering with Wells' phone.
00:16:43.380 A Jackson County grand jury clearing the three young men and all others of any criminal wrongdoing on September 21st.
00:16:49.600 Five days later, Owens posting a link on X to an Instagram video by social media producer Trent Outloud, accusing the three of murder and of deleting messages from Wells' phone.
00:17:00.700 Along with the video, Owens writing in all caps, quote, arrest them immediately like yesterday.
00:17:06.200 The post containing a picture of the three young men.
00:17:09.140 The suit, filed Monday in the Southern District of Mississippi by the fathers of Hudson, Patalo, and Seymour,
00:17:14.480 arguing Owens went further than just sharing that video,
00:17:17.420 saying his call for immediate arrest was his own independent statement.
00:17:21.080 The complaint was filed by the fathers because under Mississippi law, minors are anyone under the age of 21.
00:17:26.840 From the suit, quote,
00:17:28.460 Defendant Owens excels at attracting attention to himself, often for the wrong reasons.
00:17:33.380 He is best known for his flamboyant celebrations after scoring touchdowns
00:17:36.540 touchdowns and divisive locker room behavior during his pro football career.
00:17:40.540 Owens has once again attracted attention to himself for all the wrong reasons.
00:17:44.680 Here, the three friends telling Fox News last week the number of threats they've received
00:17:48.300 since the beginning of this case is in the thousands.
00:17:51.600 Thousands.
00:17:52.720 And I mean, not just me, but my stepmom's a chancery court judge and she goes to her
00:17:57.560 office every day and there's voicemails, hundreds, thousands, not just my stepmom,
00:18:02.860 But my mom, my dad, my stepdad, my entire family, you know, like I said, it's OK to talk about me.
00:18:09.400 But they've dragged my family into this.
00:18:10.980 They've dragged my closest friends into this.
00:18:13.160 And they've dragged amazing people all across the board into this that do not deserve this at all.
00:18:18.400 Wow. Jax, have you received threats?
00:18:20.380 Yes, ma'am. I received plenty, plenty, plenty of death threats, like bomb threats in the mail.
00:18:28.100 Like you said, every day we're getting death threats.
00:18:30.240 Morgan?
00:18:31.340 Same thing.
00:18:32.140 All threats, death threats.
00:18:35.520 Owens has yet to respond publicly to the lawsuit.
00:18:38.380 The three men are seeking unspecified damages and a jury trial.
00:18:41.960 One of their attorneys, Ed Polczyk, writing on X, quote,
00:18:45.160 This important moment marks the milestone first of many suits that we will file on behalf of completely innocent young men.
00:18:53.040 That'll do it for your AM Update.
00:18:54.860 I'm Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics.
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