The Megyn Kelly Show - Ryan Long on Intersectional Trainwrecks, the State of Comedy, and COVID Hypocrisy ｜ Ep. 102

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00:00:30.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:32.540 Your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:41.900 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:43.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:45.160 Today, Ryan Long.

00:00:47.820 This guy is a comedian.

00:00:49.440 He's host of a podcast called The Boys Cast with Ryan Long.

00:00:53.760 He basically says, ladies, keep on going. 0.99

00:00:55.460 This one's for the boys.

00:00:57.180 But he's become hugely popular thanks to his YouTube bits.

00:01:01.180 I don't know if you call them clips, bits, posts, but they're amazing and they're clever.

00:01:07.860 They're so clever.

00:01:08.540 I know you've seen some of these.

00:01:09.860 Like one of the ones that we loved was how wokes and racists sound exactly the same.

00:01:14.220 If you listen to them speaking and you didn't know who's speaking, you, you know, they would

00:01:18.160 like David Duke and Ibram X.

00:01:20.260 Kendi sound an awful lot like one another and it's a little scary. 1.00

00:01:23.820 It's a little scary, but he doesn't have very funny, somewhat biting way for a Canadian. 1.00

00:01:29.400 And we get into that too, because I think he's wrestling with it because he is a, he's

00:01:32.620 a sweet Canadian guy who's just moved to New York, which I don't think most people

00:01:36.740 would call sweet.

00:01:37.760 I don't think people call America sweet, you know, strong.

00:01:40.120 Yes, but sweet.

00:01:42.740 So how's that going?

00:01:44.600 And he's got some strong thoughts on everything, on COVID, the Canadian restrictions, on Hollywood,

00:01:51.220 on the media, on what's happening to comedy, SNL.

00:01:54.360 We get into all of it.

00:01:55.420 You're going to love him and you're going to love the clips that we have for you.

00:01:58.960 But first, this.

00:02:06.140 Ryan, how are you?

00:02:08.200 Hey, Megan.

00:02:08.820 Thanks for having me.

00:02:10.120 Oh my gosh.

00:02:10.940 The pleasure's all mine.

00:02:11.960 Thank you for all the laughs you've given me.

00:02:15.200 I appreciate it.

00:02:16.700 So I did not realize until I sort of got knee deep and prepped for the interview that you

00:02:22.440 were a rocker, that you were a lead singer of a pretty successful band.

00:02:26.460 I was in a band.

00:02:28.040 That was kind of the first, you know, half of my life from when I was, but as soon as I

00:02:32.200 was like 20, I was in this pretty successful band.

00:02:34.560 And then by the time I was 25, I was kind of more wrapped up in this whole comedy game.

00:02:40.160 And what kind of band was it?

00:02:41.700 So I was in this like punk band that we kind of got popular almost when I was in high school

00:02:46.080 and then, you know, a little bigger when I was in college.

00:02:48.220 Then by the time I finished that, I was kind of touring full time. 0.53

00:02:51.560 And when I was in the band, I was doing a lot of these like DVDs, kind of, you know, jackass

00:02:57.100 style.

00:02:57.560 And I was really huge into Tom Green and making all these videos.

00:03:00.640 And at some point it kind of became clear that I was, you know, spending way more time

00:03:05.700 than on that than I was on the, on the band.

00:03:08.500 And also it was kind of, you know, every scene, especially with music has sort of a four or

00:03:14.080 five year, maybe a little longer lifespan.

00:03:17.100 And, um, that there was also sort of coinciding with the music industry crashing and burning.

00:03:22.420 And then I sort of had a TV show with the guys from the band that sort of led to the stuff

00:03:28.640 that I'm doing now.

00:03:30.100 Okay.

00:03:30.680 All right.

00:03:30.940 Because one of your videos has you sitting around with a bunch of supposed bass players

00:03:35.720 lamenting.

00:03:36.680 It's like a bass player support group lamenting how the bass player never gets any glory.

00:03:41.640 No love.

00:03:41.920 The bass player support group.

00:03:43.060 That was one of my first big viral videos.

00:03:44.640 So that was, I was like a, a small part owner and I created the video department for this

00:03:49.440 website called the hard times, which is like a satire site about bands.

00:03:52.720 And, and, um, they, they had some of the funniest articles even before I was involved with them.

00:03:57.120 I remember, uh, seeing one that I was like, Oh, this is so funny.

00:04:00.780 It was an article and I had a guy standing there and it said, band manager, not exactly

00:04:04.740 sure what he should be doing.

00:04:06.560 It's like the guy.

00:04:08.540 And it was just so, I was like, Oh man, it was so on the nose.

00:04:11.500 So I, uh, yeah, the guy runs in Matt Sancom.

00:04:14.300 He's so, he's like a really cool guy.

00:04:15.980 And then I, I kind of got involved with him and built their video department.

00:04:19.380 We had a whole, but we did like concert proponent consultants and we, we did, uh, probably 20

00:04:24.800 videos and we had a bunch of viral hits, um, building up that site.

00:04:29.300 This explains a lot because when I watch your clips on YouTube and you're huge on YouTube,

00:04:33.960 I mean, a lot, a lot of your videos get, you can get 4.5, 4.2 million per clip.

00:04:40.040 I mean, which is huge.

00:04:41.200 Nobody's, and you can never predict which one.

00:04:43.620 I know.

00:04:44.320 Right.

00:04:44.580 That's, that's so true.

00:04:45.560 You never know what's really going to resonate, but when I watch them, one of the things that

00:04:49.020 jumps out at me is not only are you really good comedian, but you're a really good actor.

00:04:52.740 You can act.

00:04:54.140 Oh, really?

00:04:54.940 See, I, I would say I'm a really good filmmaker and you know, stuff like that.

00:04:59.760 I don't know if I would go as far as to say I'm a good actor.

00:05:02.820 I think a lot of comedians all suck at acting, but there is something to be said about when

00:05:07.640 you're a comedian, you sort of spend your, you know, your whole life working on this one 0.94

00:05:12.680 tiny character that essentially is yourself.

00:05:15.080 And then you kind of do that over and over again.

00:05:17.240 So I think that I have like decent comedic chops and I think that people a lot of times

00:05:22.080 would say, Oh, you know, you're a good actor, but they're wrong.

00:05:24.880 I'm actually not like if I, whenever I, whenever I go, you are, you're good.

00:05:29.920 I like you, you pull me into these segments.

00:05:31.960 I forget you're doing comedy.

00:05:33.240 You just make, you're just making me laugh, but you're so in character that I'm into it.

00:05:37.140 I like, I will get to this, but I'm pretty good at my one little thing that I do.

00:05:41.700 No, no, no.

00:05:42.280 You'd be starring in movies and you'd be on SNL and you'd be the darling of the comedy

00:05:46.260 world that, you know, controls television at least, but because you're not woke, that's

00:05:51.200 never going to happen.

00:05:52.260 It's fine.

00:05:52.840 You can run the digital world.

00:05:53.860 You don't need to run the linear television world.

00:05:55.740 Yeah, definitely.

00:05:57.300 The trajectory for someone like me right now is a little different and I don't know if

00:06:02.100 it's better or worse, but there is, there is a situation where, yeah, the Hollywood is

00:06:06.800 sort of missing, you know, a whole genre of, you know, good people, but that's okay.

00:06:11.900 I mean, I, I think that I like the idea that there are, you know, when I, when I moved here,

00:06:19.580 I'm from Canada and I moved to America pretty recently and I knew that there was a lot of people

00:06:23.120 doing really great things.

00:06:24.100 So it's honestly less appealing to kind of be involved with these big places anyway,

00:06:28.900 for a lot of reasons.

00:06:29.880 So I think that it's been a, you know, a blessing in disguise or, and there's positives and negatives

00:06:36.180 to the point, the fact that I can, you know, kind of, everyone can run their own little

00:06:40.860 empire right now.

00:06:41.760 And it's kind of cool.

00:06:43.060 A hundred percent.

00:06:44.020 I mean, I couldn't agree more.

00:06:45.200 I look, I, I have a love hate relationship with Belmar, but his show, you know, it gets

00:06:51.540 maybe a couple million viewers, but I mean, it.

00:06:54.400 Your clip, like we just talked about the one that I love most recently was the, how the

00:06:58.960 wokes and the racists are the same.

00:07:00.440 That's 4.2 million views.

00:07:03.000 So it's like, you're in there.

00:07:04.380 There's a, there's just a different way to reach audience now in a way we never saw before.

00:07:08.840 And just in case our audience doesn't know you that well and doesn't know this clip,

00:07:12.940 they need to.

00:07:13.660 So I'm going to play a bit of it on how wokes and racists are basically the same.

00:07:18.120 When me and Brad first met, I didn't think we'd get along, but it turns out we kind of

00:07:21.740 agree on everything.

00:07:22.660 Your racial identity is the most important thing.

00:07:24.660 Everything should be looked at through the lens of race. 0.98

00:07:26.380 Jinx, you owe me a Coke. 1.00

00:07:27.320 Damn. 0.99

00:07:27.700 We both have a lot of opinions about people of color, even though we barely know any. 0.99

00:07:30.800 I say colored people, but as long as we're classifying them, we both think minorities

00:07:34.360 are a united group who think the same and act the same.

00:07:36.780 And both the same.

00:07:37.700 You don't want to lose your black card.

00:07:38.880 Sorry, I don't know.

00:07:39.520 I just think we should roll back discrimination law so we can hire based on race again.

00:07:42.520 Jinx, now you owe me a Coke. 0.78

00:07:43.760 Hey, tell them what you told me yesterday. 0.64

00:07:45.600 White actors should only do voices for white cartoon characters. 0.98

00:07:48.440 I've been saying that for years.

00:07:49.280 Stick to your own.

00:07:50.120 Us white people, we have so much privilege.

00:07:52.140 I agree.

00:07:52.700 It is a privilege to be white. 0.85

00:07:54.000 Ask him about interracial dating. 0.92

00:07:55.400 All I said is that black men who date white women have internalized racism, and white men 0.97

00:07:59.300 that date ethnic women are fetishizing them. 1.00

00:08:01.180 Guys against interracial dating now.

00:08:02.640 Like, am I being pranked?

00:08:03.660 Did Boomer put you up to this?

00:08:05.660 Ugh, you know that taco place is white-owned? 1.00

00:08:07.480 White people should be making white foods, like crap macaroni and cheese. 1.00

00:08:10.440 No seasoning, not even salt. 1.00

00:08:11.920 It's like he's a mind reader.

00:08:12.720 I mean, I've been pushing for segregation forever, and my man does what?

00:08:15.720 I created an improv comedy show exclusively for ethnic people.

00:08:18.620 Guy segregates comedy on my birthday. 0.98

00:08:20.880 White people need to stop wearing dreadlocks, and they need to stop appropriating black people's music. 1.00

00:08:24.940 Shaved heads in country music, the way God intended. 0.99

00:08:30.460 It's so funny even listening to that right now, because I probably haven't watched that video in a while,

00:08:34.940 and you go, it feels like things move so quick that I feel like even six months ago,

00:08:40.020 it's like the conversations move so far past that.

00:08:42.740 I always think there's like a huge disconnect between what normal people think

00:08:47.400 and, you know, kind of what your corporate Hollywood opinion is or whatever.

00:08:51.520 My synopsis on the, you know, general vibe was that, you know, people didn't like this stuff.

00:08:57.120 As much as they were, you know, as much as you'd be led to believe by the media.

00:09:02.540 Of course.

00:09:03.160 But I mean, you're doing the thing that comedians do so well, which is why you guys are just treasures,

00:09:07.940 which is you have these intellectual, thoughtful observations on society and where we're moving,

00:09:12.400 and you set them to the tune of comedy.

00:09:14.080 So we get entertained, but we also hear and see what we're hearing and seeing in society

00:09:19.440 that we might not be able to name or we might not be able to identify as articulately as you just did there,

00:09:24.320 brought to life for us in a way that's like, yes, exactly.

00:09:28.860 I mean, that's why we're so grateful for somebody like you.

00:09:33.540 I think what you described is, I mean, what we're, I think we're trying to do.

00:09:37.200 I was kind of thinking it's funny, like there's, you know, kind of an entire genre of intellectual, you know, voices in the world.

00:09:44.880 And, you know, I like, I like a lot of those guys, but it is almost in the podcasting world.

00:09:49.420 It's how can we make this point over the course of a three or four hour, you know, conversation?

00:09:54.620 Yeah. And then there's, and then there's comedy where it's, you'd almost do the opposite where you have this,

00:10:00.040 you know, point you've been thinking of for two years or whatever,

00:10:02.720 and you're going through all the different versions of it.

00:10:05.140 And you're, you know, how can I say one sentence sometimes that on stage that says more about,

00:10:11.280 that says more about, you know, that point than, than you could have in three hours.

00:10:16.060 And I think that that's when comedy is at its best.

00:10:18.540 Oh, well, I mean, can I, if we're going to, if we're going to do the,

00:10:21.080 I've worked a long time to sum it down to one sentence.

00:10:23.600 My favorite one of yours is on gender.

00:10:27.380 Oh my God, this is so good.

00:10:29.320 I had plans to write an article about how women are better at football. 1.00

00:10:31.820 Women are better at fathering and women have nicer hogs than men. 1.00

00:10:34.560 Fight the patriarchy by having sex with an entire bar staff and then crying about it. 0.98

00:10:38.360 There's no such thing as gender unless we're talking about something women are better at. 1.00

00:10:41.480 Oh, that's from the Vice magazine one.

00:10:45.200 You catch the hypocrisy of the messaging so brilliantly.

00:10:48.880 You're not allowed to have gender anymore unless you're praising women and ripping on men, right? 0.92

00:10:53.120 Why can't more people get that?

00:10:54.580 We got to have these little quick retorts in our back pockets.

00:10:57.740 I think one of the reasons why maybe my things, you know, kind of are a vessel that, you know,

00:11:05.960 people find it funny is because I try pretty hard to not really have like venom in my comedy.

00:11:13.060 So it's almost, I try to, you know, go through ideas pretty aggressively in my head.

00:11:18.340 And by the time I try to get to stage, I try to not be angry about it.

00:11:21.920 And I think there's, you know, even when you watch on the internet, a lot of people are making jokes about targets that they're really mad at.

00:11:29.540 And I think that's, you know, to some people, there's some virtue in that, you know, funneling that anger into art or whatever.

00:11:35.820 But I try to do the opposite where I'm, you're almost confident in the points that you're making fun of what would, you know, essentially be a friend, you know, the way that you would with a friend.

00:11:48.400 So I try to have not a venom.

00:11:50.120 And I think that's when, you know, roasts and stuff like that are at their best.

00:11:53.740 That's interesting to talk about the anger because, I mean, that's what I see when I watch Stephen Colbert or Jimmy Kimmel.

00:11:59.080 And it's why Jimmy Fallon was failing during the Trump years because he's not an angry guy.

00:12:03.720 You know, he he may or may not like Trump.

00:12:05.500 I don't know. He decided to pretend at least that he didn't like him once he once he got hammered for having a friendly interview with the guy.

00:12:11.560 But he's not a hateful guy.

00:12:12.720 But Kimmel and Colbert are oozing anger.

00:12:17.900 And, you know, their side likes that because they're angry, too.

00:12:21.820 They also hate Trump.

00:12:22.700 They don't like Republicans.

00:12:23.940 And so they felt validated by it.

00:12:25.680 But it's hard.

00:12:27.040 Like, I do think it makes you much more accessible to the wider, you know, group of humans.

00:12:32.080 If you can remove some of that.

00:12:34.720 I'm not interested in anger, but that's the difference between, you know, comedy and activism.

00:12:39.300 And I think that that's a conversation that like a lot of comics have to deal with.

00:12:43.580 And because as soon as you start saying something, you know, people try to weaponize you and make you sort of a voice for a movement.

00:12:49.280 And you and it's hard to combat that.

00:12:52.080 So you always need to sort of go back to first principles of, you know, what am I trying to do?

00:12:56.500 If you set out to, you know, help this side or make these points, then I think you're going to get caught up in in losing honesty and truth.

00:13:05.120 And I think a lot of people did that in the last four years.

00:13:10.180 And it was probably hard not to.

00:13:12.620 Well, you know, Dave Chappelle was just on with Joe Rogan.

00:13:16.180 He was talking about like SNL and how nobody's woke enough.

00:13:19.760 I think we have that clip.

00:13:20.860 Like you say, no one can be woke enough.

00:13:23.060 You know, I'm torn because I like a warrior for a good cause, but I'm really into tactics.

00:13:32.280 You're not going to nag people into behaving.

00:13:36.460 Right.

00:13:37.340 In a way that, you know, in fact, if if you continue with this tone, even if you're right, you'll be very hard to hear.

00:13:45.720 Sure. And it came in the context of all these SNLers complaining that Elon Musk was guest hosting and he wound up having, I think it was the third highest rated appearance that they've had this season.

00:13:57.860 He was behind only Elon Musk.

00:14:01.240 That is only behind Chappelle, who was speaking about it and Chris Rock.

00:14:04.340 So, you know, comedy, too, is getting woke.

00:14:06.980 And Chappelle, at least, is saying that's a mistake.

00:14:09.020 Yeah, I think it's it's such a complicated thing.

00:14:12.780 And comedy is, you know, a super complicated nuanced art form.

00:14:18.220 But at the end of the day, it's it's it's not that everyone's actually got so much more woke, although that's a product of it.

00:14:24.600 It's that they're trying to control identities.

00:14:26.480 I mean, this has happened in every, you know, subculture.

00:14:30.100 And and right now, that's the dominant, you know, worldview that you're supposed to have.

00:14:34.820 Right. You know, we look at this and it's like SNL has gone woke.

00:14:37.400 It's like, well, maybe or really, the answer is like SNL is like a big corporate machine that has like the mainstream opinion that and no one cares about.

00:14:45.320 And that's what they have to do.

00:14:46.780 So Elon Musk is a perfect example of what I was saying.

00:14:50.120 You know, I think at the beginning of this episode where I'm talking about there's such a disconnect from what people, you know, want you to think and what people actually think.

00:14:58.540 I mean, there's this idea that if you look on Twitter, that Elon Musk is this evil guy and everyone hates him.

00:15:03.440 Ask 90 percent of dudes.

00:15:05.160 They're just like, yeah, that guy's pretty cool.

00:15:06.440 You know, that's sort of the gist of what people think of Elon Musk.

00:15:10.100 They go, oh, yeah, the, you know, go to go to Mars guy.

00:15:13.720 That guy's pretty cool.

00:15:15.240 So it's it's almost like the idea, the reverence for these institutions that they're because they're chipping away at their credibility.

00:15:23.140 You know, they're these legacy places and they think they can just kind of do whatever they want.

00:15:27.160 And unfortunately, they're playing a hard game to, you know, watch when SNL puts out a sketch that's anything other than mainstream opinion.

00:15:33.920 They just get yelled at nonstop the same way we do.

00:15:36.520 And, you know, for them, they have all these sponsors and they're set up in a way that they they can't be the new thing.

00:15:42.720 Comedy originally, you know, was sort of set up that you if you're the jester and you're this low status thing like, you know, pirates or comedians are pirates. 0.95

00:15:50.520 And essentially, it's scum lowest of society.

00:15:53.340 And then as but as these places got bigger, you end up with a situation where they all went to Harvard. 0.97

00:15:59.140 And then there's a farm system where if you do this, then you can get to SNL.

00:16:03.120 And then you're essentially like part of the bureaucracy.

00:16:04.840 You know, you're you're meeting with the king.

00:16:06.980 And so these places got so important that no one wants to lose these jobs.

00:16:12.500 But in doing that, you lose your ability to say anything.

00:16:15.560 It's like, well, no, now that you're essentially a politician, you can't just say whatever you want.

00:16:19.520 No, it don't.

00:16:20.460 It only works, really, if you're already on their team.

00:16:23.340 You know, I mean, like take the rise of Sarah Cooper.

00:16:25.620 She's this 44 year old woman who is doing some stand up comedy, but not not hugely successful.

00:16:31.140 And then when the pandemic hit, she decided to give TikTok a try and went viral in these videos, just mocking Trump.

00:16:37.120 She would just play his audio and mouth it very well, sort of lip sync it and imitate him.

00:16:43.540 And, you know, it was mocking and she hates Trump and so on.

00:16:45.660 And I mean, from those, she got a Netflix deal and a CBS deal.

00:16:51.560 She's gotten she's getting a new show.

00:16:53.980 You didn't you didn't get a CBS deal.

00:16:55.560 You didn't get a Netflix deal.

00:16:56.420 And so, like, of course, that the reason people fell in love with her is because she was mocking him.

00:17:02.320 If you had another comedian doing that to Biden, there is zero question about whether CBS and Netflix would be running to you, offering you a show.

00:17:10.580 I never have a problem with someone that, you know, was able to build this big audience and and then they get stuff.

00:17:15.980 I mean, whether you like it or not, I personally think comedy is best when you're not on any team.

00:17:20.780 And that's, you know, you kind of keep the narrative from getting out of control.

00:17:25.380 I think that you're when you're telling the truth, society is always going to go out of control.

00:17:29.260 So I think comedy at its best, if you look at at least what I think are the best comedians in the world right now, especially the younger ones, most of them aren't out there with a politician's name in their bio and stuff like that.

00:17:42.880 Essentially, you know, working for a campaign.

00:17:45.460 But when you take a show like Roseanne, Roseanne wasn't political. 0.63

00:17:47.740 I watched it all the time.

00:17:48.580 It wasn't political at all.

00:17:49.980 No, she was.

00:17:50.700 And Tim Allen show too.

00:17:52.220 She was political on Twitter.

00:17:54.940 Right.

00:17:55.520 And that and then went too far and got canceled and so on.

00:17:57.760 And there had a defense.

00:17:58.860 And I'll leave it up to the audience to figure that one out.

00:18:00.420 But my point is, those shows and that's more of a class situation that resonates so, so strongly with Americans don't get recreated.

00:18:08.400 Why?

00:18:08.740 Because who even thinks to appeal to that group of Americans?

00:18:12.500 It tends to be Republicans.

00:18:14.120 The working class has is now a Republican voting bloc.

00:18:18.600 And you would think just out of capitalism, these, you know, the people who control the airwaves would would do something for them, but they don't.

00:18:24.640 So, OK, fine.

00:18:25.280 Take it someplace else.

00:18:26.140 Right.

00:18:26.320 But in linear.

00:18:27.840 No, I agree with you.

00:18:28.900 There's really no place else.

00:18:29.860 But wait, wait, let me just finish this point.

00:18:31.280 Yeah.

00:18:31.440 In linear television, there is no place else.

00:18:33.140 Right.

00:18:33.240 Like it's controlled by people who are far left.

00:18:35.080 So people go online.

00:18:36.720 They go to the digital world in news and comedians and so on.

00:18:40.780 Great.

00:18:41.440 Then what you see is things like Parler suddenly goes away.

00:18:44.620 Conservative media on YouTube.

00:18:46.280 It gets censored every other day.

00:18:47.940 Steven Crowder can't even get a show.

00:18:49.240 He's a comedian and a social commentator.

00:18:52.780 Can't even get a show on the air every other day because he's constantly offending YouTube.

00:18:56.860 You get people banned from Twitter constantly and they're always rightly.

00:18:59.980 It's just the frustration I understand from the conservative ecosphere is they try to create their own lanes and they're doing it.

00:19:07.200 But corporate America, digital America, Silicon Valley, all the people who control the ways you get to people right now are still controlled by people with one ideology who do not want voices from the other.

00:19:19.660 Even if it's not a Republican, then even if it's an anti woke thing like you are to have larger platforms.

00:19:25.180 I can only really speak to comedy and there is a thriving comedy industry and a lot of people are filling out lots of seats. 0.95

00:19:33.660 And so I know what you're saying and I do agree with you and it sucks.

00:19:37.840 I guess I'm just always kind of going back to the idea of, you know, what can I do?

00:19:43.500 And I think that I, you know, I talked to so many people that, you know, for whatever reason are disenfranchised by a lot of this stuff.

00:19:50.100 And it's imagine someone that, you know, that they feel like they're the wrong identity.

00:19:55.420 That's the in vogue thing at the moment at some workplace or some government job.

00:19:59.020 Right. And I was in that scenario.

00:20:00.480 I mean, when I was doing stuff at CBC, which is the Canadian Broadcast Corporation, I was part of, you know, traditional media and I had probably the biggest views out of any show.

00:20:09.340 And my digital series, the two or three other ones would be turned into television shows and mine wouldn't.

00:20:16.260 And I was in a million conversations, you know, in closed doors and on conference calls where it was like, listen, like they're not doing a show with a white male.

00:20:25.000 Like that's just what the situation is.

00:20:26.560 Um, if you want to, you know, potentially we could be partnering with someone that isn't white or whatever it is. 0.88

00:20:32.020 Right. Like the amount of these conversations I have and I go, yeah.

00:20:35.060 Okay. So option one is I can, you know, stay there and complain.

00:20:39.080 Option two is I sort of moved to America and tried to build my own thing. 0.97

00:20:44.040 So of course that sucks.

00:20:45.400 And, you know, Tim Allen's getting his show kicked off the air because for no reason when it was a hit. 0.87

00:20:50.060 And I've seen this time and time again.

00:20:51.400 And, and I guess to me, it's sort of the same thing that I was talking about with music where it's like, I look at some of these things and the same way, you know, everyone's how many people were considered themselves a liberal.

00:21:03.040 And then now the world goes, actually, you're conservative now.

00:21:06.480 And these people are always fighting for the word liberal, where I guess I'm just like, you know, who cares about these words?

00:21:11.740 Coming up after the break, we're going to get into the attack that Sarah Silverman decided to launch on Caitlyn Jenner, calling Caitlyn Jenner a transphobe.

00:21:25.420 You can't, you can't make it up.

00:21:28.760 So we'll get into the soundbite and some thoughts on that in one second.

00:21:32.840 First, this.

00:21:33.300 By the way, it was, it's not just Tim Allen Roseanne, but, you know, live PD is another good example.

00:21:42.060 It was not, it's number one.

00:21:43.120 It was number one show on, on its network, A&E.

00:21:46.720 It was beating every show in cable news, every single one, but that had to go away for no reason other than cops were being maligned in the news.

00:21:54.780 So it show about cops had to go away.

00:21:56.700 It was just like crazy.

00:21:57.940 And now, now you've got, you're talking about sort of the Hollywood virtue signalers.

00:22:02.040 And the latest is the Golden Globes.

00:22:04.480 Have you seen what's happening with the Golden Globes?

00:22:06.000 They're, they've got to go away.

00:22:08.020 The NBC is not going to air the Golden Globes.

00:22:10.660 Oh no.

00:22:12.100 What would I want?

00:22:13.660 I know.

00:22:14.540 I'm telling you, prepare yourself.

00:22:16.660 Ricky Gervais is pretty funny at the Golden Globes.

00:22:18.400 He killed the Golden Globes.

00:22:19.700 It was amazing.

00:22:20.320 He stuck a knife in and they've never been able to recover.

00:22:23.080 But they're going away now because the Hollywood Foreign Press Association doesn't have enough diversity in it. 0.98

00:22:28.540 It's like 80 some odd members and none is black, which is ridiculous. 0.97

00:22:33.360 That's Hollywood. 1.00

00:22:33.960 Hollywood is racist. 0.88

00:22:35.100 It's, it's whole system has been racist for a very long time.

00:22:37.560 And like, but they're the ones who are constantly lecturing the rest of us on how we're all racist.

00:22:41.920 Because you can imagine that if you were one of these companies that poured all your money into diversity, and then you made all your movies with that.

00:22:50.100 And then Golden Globes is like, yeah, we're not going to pick those movies.

00:22:53.680 I'd be mad too.

00:22:55.140 Totally.

00:22:55.920 You put your entire investment on that. 0.84

00:22:58.740 I watch these shows where I'm like, I'll watch a show, like even if it'll just be some random cop show and you go, there'll be like 10 people and like eight of the characters are gay.

00:23:06.520 And you're like, yeah, that's probably the percentage that it represents reality.

00:23:10.140 But I mean, to me, it's, to me, it's funny.

00:23:12.660 I go good.

00:23:13.900 Yeah.

00:23:14.420 Golden Globes.

00:23:15.120 Eat yourself, Hollywood.

00:23:16.260 I love when they have their intersectional train wrecks and they, they outwoke themselves out of their own jobs.

00:23:22.040 It's just such a, so funny.

00:23:24.620 That's what's happening.

00:23:25.400 And so they're not going.

00:23:26.460 Tom Cruise mailed back his goal, his three Golden Globes.

00:23:30.300 And somebody on Twitter was like, oh, that's, that's a great gesture.

00:23:32.780 How about all the money?

00:23:34.040 Where's the, why don't you?

00:23:35.380 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:36.260 You should give back the money.

00:23:37.880 And then you've got people like Mark Ruffalo who will not stop lecturing us.

00:23:41.580 Oh my God.

00:23:41.940 A true hero.

00:23:43.140 He's my neighbor on the Upper West Side.

00:23:44.680 He lives not far from me up here.

00:23:46.440 Oh, you're in New York.

00:23:47.280 Nice.

00:23:47.920 Yeah.

00:23:48.200 He's in the right place for him.

00:23:49.720 I'm, I'm, I'm the one who doesn't belong here.

00:23:51.420 I don't, I don't see the world as he does, but he, um, he now is saying, yeah, this is outrageous.

00:23:57.160 We, I'm going to boycott the Golden Globes.

00:23:59.180 I'm not going at all.

00:24:00.160 And like one year after he accepted a Golden Globe, here he is last year accepting his Golden Globe.

00:24:05.080 Let's turn the page on the cruel past of this nation.

00:24:08.460 The good news is inclusion and justice and care for Mother Earth is breaking out everywhere.

00:24:15.280 The godly light of decency is breaking through the hideous dark storm we've been living through.

00:24:23.100 We are all in this together.

00:24:26.320 Now suddenly the Golden Globes have to be boycotted.

00:24:29.080 We have, we have not broken through all that stuff.

00:24:31.060 I said the hideous dark storm, it's still over us.

00:24:33.500 I'm out.

00:24:34.420 Oh, his speech didn't work.

00:24:35.720 Oh, what a bummer.

00:24:38.040 That great speech.

00:24:39.260 And it didn't change everything at the pace that he needed.

00:24:41.900 It's so fun.

00:24:42.840 That stuff's just like amazing.

00:24:44.220 It's all that white fragility stuff where, you know, these people went to, you know, a lot of the people.

00:24:49.980 I know all the people in this world.

00:24:51.580 I mean, that's been my world the whole, my whole life.

00:24:53.400 And there's these actors that, you know, they, they, they go, oh, you know how we feel weird around a black guy.

00:24:59.280 I go, no, I don't.

00:25:00.240 That's you.

00:25:01.180 Like, I don't feel like that.

00:25:02.680 I grew up with, lo and behold, in the comedy scene.

00:25:07.080 And again, I bring things back there because that's my, you know, world that I know the most.

00:25:11.860 And you have these, like, we used to have a comedy club that was probably by far the most diverse comedy club.

00:25:18.080 And it was, you know, whatever, just the, the, it was the bad one, right?

00:25:23.240 Like that we would all do every night.

00:25:24.800 And then there'd be all these other comedy clubs that would be like, you know, there needs to be more diversity.

00:25:29.360 And these guys are bad. 0.96

00:25:30.260 And you go, you guys are all white. 0.99

00:25:31.740 It's like white drama kids telling, you know, a bunch of, like, you know, Indian and Asian people that they're the bad ones.

00:25:38.460 And it's just, I think, you know, sometimes, yeah, Hollywood's living on a different planet.

00:25:43.400 Wait a minute.

00:25:43.640 This, this reminds me of another skit you did that is amazing.

00:25:46.060 It's, this is number four on our thought list, but it's about Silicon Valley and it's, and how diverse Silicon Valley is.

00:25:51.280 Hang on.

00:25:51.860 When people first started talking about diversity, I was a little apprehensive.

00:25:55.100 But when I realized it just meant hiring a bunch of different colors of people who agree with me, I was all in.

00:26:00.480 Every job should be 50% women. 1.00

00:26:03.140 Well, I don't know if every job.

00:26:04.280 Do you have a problem with diversity, Osama?

00:26:06.240 No, I'm just saying that.

00:26:07.100 Anyone else here have a problem with diversity?

00:26:09.420 There's no biological difference between men and women.

00:26:12.380 Very diverse guys, great work.

00:26:13.860 I pledge to fill every position other than mine with the most diverse staff of people who agree with me in the history of Silicon Valley.

00:26:20.520 Big tech needs to censor speech more.

00:26:23.020 All right, let's tweet another picture of the staff.

00:26:24.560 Actually, let me get in the middle of this puppy.

00:26:26.060 Cana 3 say I'm with her. 0.99

00:26:27.620 We have black guys that hate Trump. 0.99

00:26:28.900 Brown guys that hate Trump. 1.00

00:26:30.000 Asians that hate Trump. 0.99

00:26:31.220 Women that hate Trump. 0.99

00:26:32.300 LGBT who hate Trump.

00:26:33.780 Our main export at Diversity Corp is the right opinions. 0.99

00:26:36.900 But said by a black guy. 0.93

00:26:38.500 Yeah, I've seen this forever.

00:26:43.300 You know, they try to I haven't I haven't seen these heard these videos in a while.

00:26:46.860 But yeah, they they they've been doing this forever.

00:26:50.020 And it's like, you know, that's why the Caitlyn Jenner and people like that kind of that stuff all makes me laugh so much because you just watch.

00:26:56.400 It just puts them through the spin cycle when they, you know, one of their pets don't agree with them.

00:27:01.760 Right.

00:27:02.300 Oh, my God.

00:27:02.820 That's right.

00:27:03.160 So so on that front, what happened was she came out, she gave an interview.

00:27:07.300 She's going to take on she's going to run for governor in California. 1.00

00:27:10.980 And she said she was asked about the whether whether I mean, I just taped the show.

00:27:16.840 And yeah, she basically said that she doesn't agree with, you know, women, trans women in sports. 0.96

00:27:23.840 And exactly.

00:27:24.700 She thinks it's unfair to the to the cis girls, to the to the biological girls. 0.86

00:27:28.840 And and and wait.

00:27:30.140 So can I tell you?

00:27:30.820 So she said that.

00:27:31.600 And then Sarah Silverman, she's a comedian. 0.98

00:27:34.440 Yeah.

00:27:34.640 Of course, she's one of the angry activist comedians. 1.00

00:27:37.040 I like what you said.

00:27:37.760 There's a difference between comedy and activism.

00:27:39.700 She's activist.

00:27:40.740 She comes out and rips her to shreds. 1.00

00:27:43.620 Let's see if we have the soundbites.

00:27:44.600 I saw Caitlyn Jenner saying trans girls should not play girls sports. 1.00

00:27:50.860 Caitlyn, you're a woman, right?

00:27:54.500 A trans girl is a girl. 0.61

00:27:56.660 She should have the same rights as cis girls.

00:28:02.020 This is not concern for girls sports.

00:28:04.280 It's transphobia, full stop. 1.00

00:28:07.580 It's just such a bummer when a, you know, such a prominent trans woman is such a twat. 1.00

00:28:13.960 You know, it's like being Jewish right now and having the most recognizable Jewish names be Weinstein and Epstein. 0.98

00:28:21.420 You know, it's like super not awesome.

00:28:23.520 But yes, she it's she.

00:28:26.120 Caitlyn for taking that position is totally just like Jeffrey Epstein. 0.75

00:28:30.100 And she's a transphobe. 0.99

00:28:32.200 Well, yes, she, you know, Sarah Silverman is part of that.

00:28:35.420 I don't like to jump on comedians that much because she was obviously there was quite a controversial statement. 0.69

00:28:40.660 But the I was doing it.

00:28:42.300 Then let me do it. 1.00

00:28:43.060 She's a moron and is in no position to call Caitlyn Jenner a transphobe. 1.00

00:28:47.340 Why don't you walk a mile in her shoes? 1.00

00:28:49.220 What she doesn't like about Caitlyn Jenner is that she's a Republican and she has no business referring to her as a transphobe without considering that.

00:28:57.120 But not only is she a trans woman, she's an Olympic gold medal winning athlete.

00:29:02.760 She knows a thing or two about sports, not to mention the biological advantages a male athlete might have over, quote, a cis girl, a cis woman, meaning you're you've always been a woman.

00:29:13.000 You're born and identified a woman at birth and remain so. 0.92

00:29:16.180 I think she was way out of line.

00:29:18.420 But this is what we get.

00:29:19.620 This is what we get.

00:29:20.880 Yeah, you're not supposed to have the wrong opinions if you have the right identity.

00:29:24.100 That's very important.

00:29:25.840 I was doing a joke, though, where I was saying that everyone said that Trump's a Nazi and I didn't I was when I moved here from Canada, your presence and Nazi and then I didn't believe him.

00:29:34.260 But then he started locking up every Jew.

00:29:35.800 He locked up Epstein.

00:29:36.740 He locked up Weinstein, locked up Anthony Weiner.

00:29:41.440 Steen after Steen after Steen.

00:29:43.540 My God, it's outrageous.

00:29:44.880 And I never thought about it like that.

00:29:47.780 But yeah, I mean, it's not surprising.

00:29:50.360 I mean, you know, it's like if you're in Hollywood and you're that it's like, yeah, that that's the opinion you're supposed to have.

00:29:55.160 I mean, it's just funny.

00:29:58.080 It's like, hey, oh, every person in Hollywood just here's the 15 things we all think we don't agree on one thing.

00:30:03.840 I mean, it is funny.

00:30:05.140 It's so funny to see.

00:30:06.300 You know, I kind of judge someone.

00:30:08.380 If if someone's, you know, a thinker, generally a lot of people, you're going to have at least one or two things that kind of goes against, you know, here's my list of things.

00:30:19.680 So whenever someone has every single thing you think is like right in vogue opinion at the time, I go at the very least from a statistical probability, you go a little suspicious.

00:30:30.440 And I think you've noticed that and I don't necessarily have a side on this one, but there is I thought it was just an interesting case study with, you know, this Israel, Palestine stuff that's going on because there's a lot of celebrities that, you know, kind of are pretty vocal, have been pretty vocally in support of Israel or whatever.

00:30:50.440 And then in this, that is, you know, Palestine is the kind of the proper one to support or, you know, if you don't want your career to get taken or whatever. 0.55

00:30:59.780 And it's fun.

00:31:00.280 So they won't post their opinions.

00:31:02.720 These people that, you know, have every every opinion on a tweet, every opinion on this, you know, the one time that they kind of don't have the correct opinion, you know, even though it's a pretty huge thing.

00:31:12.480 And a lot of these people, it was, you know, they're one of their cardinal points of their, you know, identity and structure.

00:31:18.240 They won't talk about that because they know it kind of is going to go against their their people.

00:31:23.600 So I like I like people that that, you know, have their own opinions and they don't necessarily align in lockstep with every opinion they're supposed to have.

00:31:33.980 And you're 100 percent right about that.

00:31:36.540 And you're right, that that's the sort of the, quote, right opinion to have is to support Palestine. 0.53

00:31:41.640 And I mean, there was a big fight a couple of years ago at the Democratic National Convention about what the whole platform of the party was going to say, whether it should whether it should say that.

00:31:51.300 And people are been they've been very silent on it and things are going from bad to worse over there.

00:31:56.680 But I see it, too.

00:31:57.860 You mentioned this when it comes to COVID.

00:32:00.360 It's like people who in the beginning were tweeting out, sort of lecturing everybody, stay home, which people did, wear the masks,

00:32:06.140 which people did take the vaccines, which people are doing.

00:32:09.400 Some some groups aren't.

00:32:10.720 But overall, Americans are getting vaccinated now.

00:32:14.540 Stay silent when the science, remember, listen to the science.

00:32:17.120 The science is telling us we can take off the masks after our vaccinations.

00:32:21.300 The kids can go back to school. 0.99

00:32:22.940 The kids do not need to be wearing these damn masks while they run around outside, even though they haven't been vaccinated. 0.99

00:32:28.920 They're littles. 0.99

00:32:29.480 They don't have to wear them.

00:32:30.220 And yet a lot of a lot of the people who were lecturing us about COVID restrictions and obeying them now say nothing when the science has changed.

00:32:39.220 We've learned.

00:32:40.000 Right.

00:32:40.720 Like it's time to stand up for people.

00:32:42.700 Their liberty, especially the kids.

00:32:45.540 Bubkis, right.

00:32:46.420 Crickets in too many cases.

00:32:49.200 Yeah.

00:32:49.460 I mean, Fauci said we're in the bottom of the sixth inning.

00:32:52.280 If I had my way, I'd convince everyone that we're in the first game of a very long series.

00:32:57.300 So I think maybe 2028 would be a good time to even think about taking off masks.

00:33:02.660 That's just, you know, that's where I sit on the issue.

00:33:05.020 I'm not telling everyone else what to think, but I'll be wearing my mask well into the 30s.

00:33:09.420 That's just how I feel about it.

00:33:11.080 You know, and it's funny because they get people are so wrapped up about conspiracy theories.

00:33:15.300 And I know so many people that just went to how many times can you lie to people before they start looking for other answers?

00:33:22.660 Because the idea is where they go, you're not supposed to, you know, it used to be, you could, it's sort of funny.

00:33:29.680 The idea that it's like, you go, I just have a question.

00:33:31.880 They go, no questions.

00:33:32.820 You know, my friend Danny has kind of a funny joke about that.

00:33:35.100 But they, it's like your girlfriend coming home and being like, where were you?

00:33:40.400 And she was like, where were you for two days?

00:33:42.580 And she goes, oh, I was just here.

00:33:44.760 And you go, wait, where?

00:33:46.180 And she goes, no questions.

00:33:47.440 You go, you're not supposed to ask questions.

00:33:49.120 Don't you love me?

00:33:50.040 And you go, well, I don't know.

00:33:51.660 It's a little fishy here.

00:33:52.900 They go, no, you know, eventually at some point after, you know, being told things you saw were lies and then told that, you know, getting in trouble for anyone that's asking questions.

00:34:03.420 That people start getting into some wacky theories because they, you know, they can't trust, they don't know who to listen to.

00:34:09.720 I mean, you go on the news right now.

00:34:11.720 I mean, if you look, it's so impossible to find, you know, the truth about anything through news.

00:34:17.540 So you just have to kind of pay attention to anything and try to do your best to like put together what you think the truth might look like because it's so impossible with everyone's, you know, agenda.

00:34:26.520 Up next, we're going to get into covid and the lionization of Dr. Fauci, how wrong this woman running the CDC has been and remains this.

00:34:37.340 She's an emotional wreck, this woman.

00:34:38.840 We got to we got to get her out of this post. 1.00

00:34:40.480 She needs to be removed and put in a more gentle profession. 1.00

00:34:45.000 I don't know what it is, but this is not somebody who should be running the national health policy or weighing in any meaningful way.

00:34:50.600 You heard possibly the stuff she said about camp this week, like a hysterical.

00:34:54.880 Like she reminded me of one of these, like, I don't just like I've said it before.

00:34:58.960 Forgive me.

00:34:59.340 But she's one of those women who gives women a bad name, right? 1.00

00:35:01.600 Like emotional, like my son and camp and meanwhile, spewing a bunch of misinformation.

00:35:06.680 So it's not all about being a woman.

00:35:08.420 It's about being disconnected from the facts.

00:35:10.580 And we're going to correct that here in one minute.

00:35:18.060 We have a feature today that we do features here at Megan Kelly show, including one we call Sound Up, where we bring the audience.

00:35:24.880 A soundbite that's making news or what have you.

00:35:27.820 And we have the CDC director here, Rochelle Walensky, who's in hysteric.

00:35:32.840 She's a hysterical person. 0.97

00:35:34.820 She has no business running the CDC because she continues to make hysterical statements and show how weak she is when it comes to controlling her emotions, which is not the person we want in this position. 1.00

00:35:44.940 Right. But she came out.

00:35:47.420 She got cross-examined by senators yesterday, including, you know, moderate senators like Susan Collins of Maine, who's never considered right enough for most of the Republican Party. 0.92

00:35:56.800 So it's not like she's some hard right winger. 0.61

00:35:58.480 But she's coming after her saying, look, some of your guidance at the CDC is nuts.

00:36:04.240 We do not need to have double masks all summer for children when they go to camp and everybody knows it.

00:36:10.440 And your own guidance shows us that.

00:36:12.700 So why don't you relax a little, Rochelle?

00:36:16.220 And here's how Rochelle responded. 1.00

00:36:18.300 With regard to camp, I have a 16-year-old.

00:36:21.560 Every day, every year, he comes home from camp and he writes the number of days until he returns to camp the next year.

00:36:27.440 This year, it got to zero and I told him he wasn't going.

00:36:31.380 I want our kids back in camp.

00:36:34.520 We now have 38,000 new infections on average per day.

00:36:39.420 Last May 11th, it was 24,000.

00:36:42.260 And we sent a lot of kids home and camps were closed.

00:36:45.040 First, the camp guidance is intended to get our kids to camp and allow them to stay there.

00:36:51.000 Thank you.

00:36:52.760 Oh, my God.

00:36:54.040 That is so misleading.

00:36:56.000 I mean, first of all,

00:36:56.420 Camp's over, buddy.

00:36:57.960 Get used to it.

00:36:58.640 That's camp.

00:36:59.480 There are about four times as many tests going on right now as there were at this time last year.

00:37:04.700 This time last year, we didn't understand anything.

00:37:07.260 We were dealing with this nuke.

00:37:09.040 Right?

00:37:09.280 We didn't know Zoom.

00:37:10.960 Right?

00:37:11.300 We didn't know how it spread.

00:37:12.840 I'm going Zoom camping.

00:37:15.040 We didn't know anything.

00:37:17.560 Right?

00:37:17.760 We've learned a lot more about how to treat it.

00:37:19.580 A lot more people have been vaccinated since then.

00:37:21.820 We understand now, thanks to the CDC, that it basically doesn't spread outside.

00:37:26.260 And to his credit, a New York Times reporter, David Lenhart, ripped the CDC in a post he put out saying,

00:37:34.180 it's 0.1% of COVID cases that come from outdoor transmission.

00:37:39.280 0.1.

00:37:41.720 Okay?

00:37:42.140 And by the way, even that's questionable because if you look behind that number,

00:37:46.400 they base it on studies at a construction site in Singapore.

00:37:50.800 And even Singapore has come out and said, that could have been indoors too.

00:37:54.200 So we're not even sure about that one.

00:37:56.980 So we're basing on a subject like, because of some misguided data out of Singapore,

00:38:02.120 she wants our kids to maintain double masks all summer long.

00:38:05.840 And this is not her first hysterical statement.

00:38:08.220 Here she was just a couple months ago, like tearing up.

00:38:11.580 Listen.

00:38:11.700 I'm going to pause here.

00:38:13.620 I'm going to lose the script.

00:38:15.200 And I'm going to reflect on the recurring feeling I have of impending doom.

00:38:19.700 We have so much to look forward to, so much promise and potential of where we are,

00:38:25.400 and so much reason for hope.

00:38:27.500 But right now, I'm scared.

00:38:29.560 Ryan, that sounds like a Canadian.

00:38:32.160 Yes.

00:38:34.020 Well, you know, when you start getting into numbers and stuff,

00:38:37.400 it does get a little above the pay grade of what I know what I'm talking about.

00:38:40.580 And listen, you were kind of saying the beginning that I moved to America,

00:38:45.680 and I'm seeing that there isn't freedom.

00:38:48.620 But the truth is, I'm from Canada right now, and America has states that are open.

00:38:54.920 And there are places that are on the Fauci plan, where let's stay closed till 2095.

00:39:01.940 But when this got really bad in New York, I moved to Miami.

00:39:06.580 So, you know, me and my little squad, we moved to Miami, and we set up shop there.

00:39:13.160 And I was making videos there, and we took a deal.

00:39:15.580 So we were writing a movie in Miami, and then I went on tour to all the open places.

00:39:20.020 And I couldn't have done that in Canada.

00:39:21.460 My friends in Canada, New York has stand-up open now in Canada.

00:39:24.920 So Canada right now is completely locked down, like the first lockdown, essentially.

00:39:29.320 And there is at least, you know, there's people like you, and there is a more fair conversation here, at least.

00:39:36.960 And half your states are saying, you know, we're not going to do this.

00:39:40.860 And then there is some positivity.

00:39:42.700 It was like, listen, if you want to be the safest person in the world, then yeah, move to Portland.

00:39:46.000 And I'm sure it's very aggressively safe.

00:39:48.320 And if you don't want to, move to Miami.

00:39:50.240 And I guess people have been speaking because so many people have left California, so many people have left San Francisco, so many people have left New York.

00:39:57.500 And so to me, that's good.

00:40:00.080 And I like the idea that people are allowed to, if you want to go think that, you know, this, I'm a more safety over freedom person.

00:40:08.280 It's very, very important to me to be safe until there's no chance of catching COVID.

00:40:12.840 And these people won't get the vaccine, which isn't making me feel unsafe and all that stuff.

00:40:17.580 At least there are, you know, a divide of you get to choose which one you are.

00:40:22.060 Because a lot of times people say, right and wrong.

00:40:24.460 Yes, but you can't leave, like, yes, some people have left blue states to go to states like Florida.

00:40:30.420 I'm just saying it's better than Canada.

00:40:31.560 I mean, it's, you know, we can begin and end every segment.

00:40:39.520 My beloved producer is from Canada, and I'm always kidding her about Canada. 1.00

00:40:43.680 I love Canadian.

00:40:44.240 And Janice, my closest friend is Canadian.

00:40:46.280 So I jest because I'm mad that Debbie moved there.

00:40:51.400 But, yeah, no, but the problem is, so, like, I live in New York, right, with you.

00:40:55.560 And our state is controlled by ours. 0.84

00:40:58.960 No, I don't, but I'm going to.

00:41:00.620 I am, but for different reasons.

00:41:02.420 But I don't want to have to move to Florida or Texas just to have sanity reflected in policy.

00:41:09.720 And just to your point, I just looked this up.

00:41:12.320 The Oregon governor, to your point, Portland, has just said even when they get to 70% vaccinated,

00:41:19.020 masks and social distancing will have to continue.

00:41:22.300 Then you look at Governor DeSantis in Florida.

00:41:25.200 He was asked, what direction do you have for schools this fall?

00:41:27.060 And he said, quote, our direction is simple.

00:41:29.240 Have a normal school year.

00:41:30.540 He said that these these kids do not need to be wearing masks.

00:41:36.380 Sorry, but they don't.

00:41:37.500 And the South Carolina governor, too, just issued an executive order saying parents, parents should decide whether their kids should wear masks in school.

00:41:43.840 He's prohibited mask mandates in their state, banning vaccine passports.

00:41:47.900 So I love federalism.

00:41:49.380 I really do.

00:41:49.940 But it's just in states like mine, which are controlled by people who seem to be in love with the covid fear porn.

00:41:55.300 It's frustrating.

00:41:57.020 I guess I'm not like a rule follower to begin with.

00:41:59.500 So, you know, I've gotten a lot of people mad at me over the pandemic.

00:42:03.640 But, you know, when they were like, oh, you're allowed to have gatherings of three people now.

00:42:07.560 And I'm like, I mean, make it zero people.

00:42:09.320 I'm not really following it.

00:42:10.380 So I don't care. 0.99

00:42:11.940 You know, it's yeah, it sucks.

00:42:15.720 But, you know, I'm like, I'm not like I'm not turning on the TV to hear what Fauci tells me I can do. 0.55

00:42:20.960 I'm just doing whatever I want to do.

00:42:22.780 Same or Rochelle.

00:42:23.580 I'm over Rochelle.

00:42:24.900 But I did.

00:42:25.280 I did appreciate you calling out the BS on like the protests and that how the virus, the skip or something like the coronavirus doesn't spread in gatherings that I support.

00:42:34.880 You know, everyone kind of noticed that it was it was so obvious.

00:42:38.120 Like, yes, but they don't say it as effectively as you do.

00:42:42.760 And I have it here.

00:42:43.600 Number eight, as an example.

00:42:45.100 Some of you might be wondering why last month I was writing articles about how leaving your house is basically bludgeoning the elderly. 0.91

00:42:51.160 And this month I'm writing articles about the importance of large social gatherings.

00:42:54.700 And after a ton of research, scientists have discovered that the X factor in determining whether a gathering is dangerous is whether or not I, Mark Diamond, personally support it.

00:43:03.500 There's something about the dynamics of the coronavirus mixed with my personal political beliefs that made it important to snitch on your friends for gathering last week and important to snitch on them for not supporting gatherings this week.

00:43:12.840 Science is crazy.

00:43:13.840 Science is crazy.

00:43:14.840 For example, science determined that white people gathering in the park last week were basically Ben Stiller from Happy Gilmore.

00:43:18.640 And now they have a social duty to make large gatherings a cardinal part of their identity.

00:43:22.180 They've been able to A-B test this with causes I don't support, like religious gatherings, family events.

00:43:27.980 And the science shows that coronavirus is still rampant at these gatherings.

00:43:31.220 Something about the molecules and my opinions that made groups of five bad, but groups of 10,000 good.

00:43:36.160 Running a store bad, but looting a store good.

00:43:38.300 I'm not a scientist.

00:43:39.340 But health officials everywhere have been experiencing the exact same phenomenon.

00:43:42.120 Hey, I'm as surprised as you are that my opinions made corona live on surfaces last month and immune to them this month.

00:43:47.920 It also appears that my opinions have the ability to change someone like Kanye West's anatomy to make them fundamentally good or bad.

00:43:53.840 Scientists have also found that Donald Trump plays a big role in this and that I choose my opinions in opposition to his,

00:43:59.600 which then allows corona to use that information when deciding which gatherings that it plans to infect.

00:44:04.840 You know, it's a very complicated issue and all you can do at home right now is follow me and other bloggers on Twitter

00:44:10.680 as our opinions constantly change so you can figure out which causes make you a murderer and which ones make you a hero.

00:44:22.800 So good.

00:44:24.740 Dude, I've seen so many people's brains just get fried in the last four years.

00:44:30.700 Or you just watch people on Facebook, you're like, oh, that guy's gone.

00:44:36.540 So true.

00:44:37.440 There was a story just this week about the D.C. mayor, Muriel Bowser, the same woman who was doing exactly what you said, shaming everybody to stay inside. 1.00

00:44:45.860 And then she went to the Joe Biden inauguration and to parties.

00:44:49.360 No, it was like to parties and celebrating out on the street.

00:44:52.240 And she was like, well, I'm just advancing the the interests of the District of Columbia.

00:44:56.080 Wait, how?

00:44:57.040 How again?

00:44:57.760 And she just came out.

00:44:59.200 The same woman who was at the gatherings, you know, enjoying herself, just came out and banned dancing at weddings. 1.00

00:45:06.240 It's like Footloose all over again.

00:45:08.280 And John Luthgow, it's like she said, this is the this is the guidance now, right?

00:45:12.120 And if you live in Washington, D.C., from your mayor, guests at weddings and other one time events, any one time event must remain seated and socially distanced from one another or from other household groups.

00:45:25.140 And I quote, standing and dancing receptions are not allowed.

00:45:30.040 You can't stand.

00:45:30.980 And I can't stand her. 1.00

00:45:34.200 This is ridiculous. 0.96

00:45:35.340 That's another one of those things like the Elon Musk thing where everyone that I know that's just, you know, normal, that doesn't care that much about politics is, yeah, these lockdowns are outrageous. 0.91

00:45:47.440 You know what I mean?

00:45:47.880 And then but that's, you know, there's I think that's the thing a lot of times that I'm kind of making fun of is the idea of taking sort of things that just everyone kind of thinks.

00:45:59.520 And but it's like the cardinal sin to like say it.

00:46:02.740 What do you make of the media these days here in America?

00:46:06.120 Like the how things have changed in the post Trump era?

00:46:10.440 I think that a lot of people are sort of trying to figure out what it looks, what their what their identity looks like now that the cardinal part of it is, you know, has been removed.

00:46:21.500 So I think there's a lot of people struggling for what what it is.

00:46:25.320 And I do think that a little bit on both sides, you know, I do see, you know, you see people that are still posting how great Trump is.

00:46:32.980 And you're like, I mean, that how long can you do that for?

00:46:35.280 How can how long could that be your identity?

00:46:36.680 And then you see people that hated Trump and they're still, you know, still still writing articles.

00:46:41.680 I did a video, but I thought it was so funny when people the you know, the blogs and stuff like that were posting articles like they Joe Biden got rid of Trump's Diet Coke button.

00:46:51.960 And you're like, this is what you guys are up to now, right?

00:46:55.900 Yeah, that was their, you know, golden goose or whatever is.

00:46:59.360 So I think a lot of people are trying to figure out like, all right, well, what do I look like now?

00:47:03.200 How do you aggressively? So how do you venomously support a politician is kind of what I was saying.

00:47:08.700 But yeah, I have a I have a video.

00:47:11.120 You know, we actually have it.

00:47:12.660 No, no, I was going to say that I was going to tell you a video I'm going to do that next week.

00:47:17.800 I'll debut the thing because just because you're talking about the COVID thing, I think you'll think it's funny.

00:47:21.700 But it's the governors that locked everyone down.

00:47:25.000 And there it's a trailer for a movie where they're getting back to getting the gang back together for one last lockdown this summer.

00:47:31.200 And they figure it out to do it.

00:47:35.420 And they're like, you've gone loco, Newsom.

00:47:37.720 And he's like, we can do this.

00:47:39.160 We'll find the science, you know, and they because they were heroes.

00:47:43.820 Right. They were. It's just sort of the same thing you're talking about.

00:47:46.100 But that's they were, you know, their identity.

00:47:48.820 They were these saviors. Right.

00:47:50.320 You know, there was a while I even watched with Canadian politicians where all they had to do is go up and be like, you know, stay in your house.

00:47:56.240 And everyone's like, this guy is the man, you know, he knows what he's talking about.

00:47:59.660 And then and then once that all sort of faded away, they're kind of like, you know, what am I?

00:48:04.480 You know, who am I?

00:48:05.900 So I think that, you know, a lot of people are figuring out what they what they look like as a, you know, after this war that they were such a cardinal part of.

00:48:15.760 That's such a good point. I never do the parallel between the media post Trump and these Democratic leaders are really just pro lockdown leaders.

00:48:22.800 I mean, Trump was president when the big lockdown was put put in how how they're seeing themselves and how their reputations have changed.

00:48:29.560 I mean, Fauci's probably was the man eight months ago.

00:48:32.560 You know, I remember the thing people like, oh, Cuomo sexuals.

00:48:35.520 People loved him. People go, oh, this guy's a man.

00:48:37.980 And and then now he's now if you hate him.

00:48:41.380 Oh, yeah. Now people are marching against him.

00:48:43.460 One hundred percent. I know people like that.

00:48:45.700 But wait, I want to give the audience a taste of what you did on the blogger Trump withdrawal because you've nailed it again.

00:48:50.220 Number three.

00:48:51.100 So it's been months now since Donald Trump was voted out of office and things in the blogging world have not been good.

00:48:56.220 He's still not on Twitter.

00:48:57.180 For the first few months, we tried to write about post-president Trump, like how no one wants to go to his club anymore.

00:49:01.800 They got rid of his Diet Coke button.

00:49:03.320 It's like phantom limb syndrome.

00:49:04.600 I can still feel his Twitter, even though it's not there. 0.98

00:49:06.480 I tried getting my fix writing about Ted Cruz or how Jeff Bezos has too much money and he's done jack shit for me.

00:49:11.760 There was that moment where we were trying to get him impeached even though he wasn't the president anymore and just felt like old times again.

00:49:16.920 And I thought traffic might be up again.

00:49:18.360 Then my article about someone doodling at the impeachment completely bombed.

00:49:21.520 My friends are getting laid off by the dozens.

00:49:23.320 How quickly they forget about my service and the resistance.

00:49:25.860 I served this country.

00:49:27.160 And yeah, I know I was writing articles about how I didn't want to get out of bed because of Donald Trump.

00:49:30.720 Turns out he's the reason I wanted to get out of bed.

00:49:32.540 Not a single thank you for your service.

00:49:33.900 Big surprise.

00:49:36.480 Can I tell you, like, just today, just today, there's an NBC News, quote, senior reporter, Brandy Zadrozny.

00:49:46.760 I never heard of this person, who wrote a piece on how no one is reading Trump's new blog.

00:49:51.620 It's not lighting up the Internet.

00:49:52.940 I mean, you're like, oh, you could have used it.

00:49:55.420 But this belongs in your piece.

00:49:58.200 It is funny that, you know, Trump does the press releases and they're always kind of like, man, this guy was outrageous.

00:50:05.940 It's funny.

00:50:06.720 Right.

00:50:07.080 But but everybody who covers, you know, news, who's in the news business, pro or anti, they do miss him no matter what they say.

00:50:14.660 I mean, CNN, which was like revived and people were like, Jeff Zucker's the second coming.

00:50:20.680 They are bleeding viewers now.

00:50:23.460 I mean, just hemorrhaging viewers.

00:50:24.660 I'm just I just looked at the latest numbers.

00:50:26.180 These may not mean much to you, but I'll give you some perspective.

00:50:28.840 CNN.

00:50:29.160 This is just a day last week, Thursday, but it's representative average daytime rating about seven hundred thousand in the overall seven hundred thousand like, you know, households watching one hundred and eighty thousand in the key demo of twenty five to fifty four year olds, which is the only thing that matters.

00:50:45.700 That's all that matters for advertising and cable.

00:50:47.500 We only look at the demo.

00:50:48.580 They got one hundred and eighty thousand in the demo.

00:50:50.980 I'm like, we beat that easily on my podcast.

00:50:55.320 One hundred and fifty three thousand in the demo in MS at MSNBC.

00:50:59.640 Right.

00:50:59.840 And even Fox is struggling with two hundred fifty three thousand in the demo.

00:51:02.820 I'm just saying Trump that he's he's one of those guys like you'll miss me when I'm gone.

00:51:07.920 And for sure, the ratings.

00:51:10.420 Yeah.

00:51:10.940 Golden goose.

00:51:12.360 All right.

00:51:13.300 Yeah.

00:51:13.520 I think that I guess the maybe things calm down about as much a little bit in terms of people trying to.

00:51:20.980 You know, get people fired and all that stuff.

00:51:22.980 But it it kind of looks like it hasn't.

00:51:25.400 But even your point about the what we were talking about with the the bloggers, it's they do love it.

00:51:33.480 And that's kind of why, you know, I see it as so disingenuous sometimes where they're like, oh, I found this offensive thing.

00:51:39.480 This guy said, I'm so mad.

00:51:40.840 And it's like, no, you're stoked.

00:51:42.540 You know, you can't believe your luck.

00:51:44.080 You're happy.

00:51:44.680 You know, I think that that's one of the things that was originally a lot of people started to notice when, you know, every these people that kind of, you know, comb through the Internet and spend their days trying to like take down people or whatever.

00:51:57.900 You know, and that's the problem with, you know, groupthink and stuff like that is, you know, when you start seeing other people as not people.

00:52:06.060 Yeah.

00:52:06.760 You also are pretty quick to call out people who are just they're all about their victimization.

00:52:10.880 How have they been victimized and how, you know, the world has done them wrong.

00:52:14.700 And what and the real answer in life is just figuring out how people have wronged you.

00:52:19.100 That's the key to success.

00:52:20.080 I guess I guess the difference is I think that I understand why people, you know, become part of these things.

00:52:27.000 So when I see someone that spent their whole life trying to be an actor in Hollywood and they spent 15 years trying to get to Hollywood and then they get to a movie and then they go, this is what you think when you're in this movie.

00:52:36.840 And then they come out and kind of say that stuff like I do understand why they're doing that.

00:52:42.760 And I guess I know a lot of these people.

00:52:45.260 So I don't it's like I don't see them as like this guy's the worst and they're the devil.

00:52:50.040 I understand the like social pressures and how strong it is.

00:52:53.960 And, you know, I deal with this and everyone does.

00:52:56.800 And I'm, you know, someone that spent their whole life getting kicked out of schools and everything.

00:53:01.620 You know, I've been a naturally troubled that troublesome person and whatever.

00:53:06.200 I don't know, whatever you want to call it, like always kind of gone, gone against what I see as mainstream thought in a lot of ways.

00:53:13.780 And then you see some like normal guy or normal person just works at some place and you're like, hey, why don't you stand up to all this stuff?

00:53:21.200 And it's like, well, it's freaking hard.

00:53:23.360 So I guess I, I empath, I empathize with anyone who's, you know, in some version of a like a group think cult.

00:53:30.720 And well, honestly, that's why I think you've become such an important social commentator, because you are so good at it.

00:53:37.500 And I can see, you know, it's not done.

00:53:39.200 It isn't done with venom, but it's done with amazing insights and humor.

00:53:43.140 I mean, the, the one, the, the, the clip, we already played this without you when you, when it came out, because we all loved it so much.

00:53:50.660 We played it with another guest was you, you doing the modern therapist, trying to explain to all these young people why really nothing was their fault.

00:54:01.140 Stand by.

00:54:01.880 It's number two.

00:54:02.760 Yesterday, I lied in the bath drunk for eight hours.

00:54:05.760 Everyone needs self-care.

00:54:06.820 And I actually applaud you for recognizing that.

00:54:09.440 A lot of therapists will tell you how to get your life together and what you could do differently, but they rarely ever focus on what the world could do differently.

00:54:16.100 That is your family's fault.

00:54:17.220 That's society's fault.

00:54:18.480 Whoever you are, there's things working against you.

00:54:20.360 It's my job to find those things and help you base your entire identity around them.

00:54:24.380 I've been feeling pretty lonely lately.

00:54:26.480 Have you tried posting online about what men could do differently?

00:54:29.540 I was dating this one guy, but then I f***ed his best friend in his bathroom at his birthday party.

00:54:35.640 If he can't take you at your worst, he doesn't deserve you at your best. 0.77

00:54:38.460 And society needs to change his views on women at their worst. 0.84

00:54:41.500 I now understand the world needs to change the way it looks at hot messes.

00:54:45.260 I think I've been smoking too much weed.

00:54:47.220 You've actually been smoking the perfect amount.

00:54:49.060 And am I correct in saying you use it to self-medicate?

00:54:51.540 93% of New Yorkers go to therapy.

00:54:53.560 So whether you're born in the wrong place with the wrong parents, the wrong amount of motivation, the wrong gender, 0.70

00:54:58.380 you want energy to be focused on who is to blame for that happening rather than the antiquated what you can do about it.

00:55:05.640 That was Corinne Fischer.

00:55:06.840 So funny.

00:55:08.340 So good.

00:55:09.660 So good.

00:55:10.440 Do you think it's worse in Canada than in America, that dynamic?

00:55:13.280 Or do you think it's the same in your experience?

00:55:15.960 It's always worse in smaller places because there's not room for dissonance or subculture.

00:55:21.440 The same way that it's worse in Portland than it is in, you know, even, you know, Los Angeles, probably.

00:55:28.580 Because the smaller the place, the less room there is for, you know, thought that goes against it.

00:55:34.800 But so it's definitely worse in a smaller place.

00:55:37.220 And I think you notice that all over.

00:55:38.660 And there's also a cultural thing in America.

00:55:40.640 But yeah, that to me is, I think, a lot of what I've been even talking about lately on stage and stuff like that.

00:55:46.740 But there was a while where it was a bunch of people that were depressed giving you advice on how to be more depressed.

00:55:55.220 And it was like, you know, there's so many people right now that they're, you know, I'm making the world a better place.

00:56:04.300 And it's like, I guess this is, I'm not the, you know, the, I wouldn't credit myself for any of these ideas.

00:56:10.780 They've been said by probably smarter people than me lots of other times.

00:56:15.320 But, you know, you see it in your friends.

00:56:17.320 You see your friends that have, you know, they have it all figured out.

00:56:19.760 And you're like, what you're doing is not working at all.

00:56:23.100 And you're telling other people how to live their life.

00:56:25.560 So I think that anytime you kind of get into these ideologies that are their sole purpose, you know, at least their effect is that it's, you know, ruining your life.

00:56:35.640 It's probably not, probably not good.

00:56:38.740 Right.

00:56:39.280 And I, and to go back to the other side, you know, I guess I see it where, you know, people get in these fights and it just rattles their brains so much.

00:56:48.680 And I think that one of the things that, you know, maybe even you've been giving me pushback about, but there is a part of me that's like, you know, if, if all of this stuff takes away your ability to have fun, then you've already lost.

00:56:59.860 So, you know, if you spend your entire life in this thing where you've been robbed of your ability to, you know, have fun and enjoy yourself to some extent, you've already lost, even if you win.

00:57:10.660 Mm hmm.

00:57:12.060 Oh, no.

00:57:12.420 I used to talk about when I was at Fox, there was this group.

00:57:16.140 Oh, gosh, I'm trying to remember their name, but it wasn't Media Matters, another group.

00:57:19.820 But their motto was, we watch Fox so you don't have to.

00:57:22.500 And they would, they would block every single minute, every single minute of Fox News all day long.

00:57:26.600 I'm like, oh, my God, what a terrible way to live your life.

00:57:29.380 You hate it so much.

00:57:30.840 It's not good.

00:57:31.360 Yeah.

00:57:31.920 Dedicating your entire life to something you hate, I think.

00:57:33.980 Like, yeah, they, they, there's a comedy has a ton of people that, you know, their entire thing is dedicated to, you know, being a stenographer for what's happening and getting mad at it.

00:57:48.840 I mean, I can't think of a worse fate, right?

00:57:50.980 Choosing to spend your whole day immersed in what you consider a toxic stew and just taking it in night and day, waking up in the morning, being like, now what?

00:57:57.320 Now what?

00:57:57.780 Now what?

00:57:58.980 No wonder they're so unhappy.

00:58:00.800 It's always existed.

00:58:02.240 It's just the level right now is unhealthy.

00:58:05.860 I mean, listen, there were, there were people that probably, you know, spent their time hating George Bush.

00:58:10.460 And there's people that probably spent their time hating Obama, but not the way that it was in the last four years.

00:58:15.960 This was, this was, this was, you know, on crack.

00:58:19.680 So that can't have positive effects on people's brains.

00:58:24.000 So what do you do?

00:58:24.760 So, by the way, do you miss Canada at all?

00:58:27.380 I miss my friends.

00:58:28.100 I mean, it's kind of funny the way that I moved here.

00:58:31.460 Cause I moved here, like, you know, not that many months before the pandemic and I left everything in Canada and I go, okay, I'm going to move to America.

00:58:39.560 And then I took like a sublet and I go, okay, once I'll get a place and then figure out which comedy clubs I'm going to do.

00:58:45.200 Kind of figure out where I'm going to live, get a place.

00:58:46.880 And that's right when I moved into my place is when the, uh, the pandemic happened.

00:58:51.400 And I was planning on next week going back to Canada to get, I have a car sitting in Canada and I had, uh, um, all my stuffs in a storage locker.

00:59:01.760 So I was so new here.

00:59:03.640 Like I've right now, my car is at my, my dad's place and he, he's like, all right, this is gotta fix it.

00:59:09.000 I go, I don't know.

00:59:09.500 Just sell it.

00:59:10.060 What do we, I don't know.

00:59:10.600 What do you want to do?

00:59:11.020 You can sell it and keep it money or whatever.

00:59:12.960 Like what am I supposed to do?

00:59:14.720 So wait, why can't you go get it?

00:59:16.420 Can you not, can you not go get your things and bring them back?

00:59:18.940 No, no, you can't.

00:59:20.220 Because if you go back to, no, if you, well, first of all, they had no driving across the border, only plane.

00:59:25.920 So I couldn't bring my stuff anyway.

00:59:27.140 And then the other thing was, if you go back, you have to, so there's this, I don't know the exact way it kind of changes and there's no way to find out you.

00:59:35.300 These, these sites are almost intentionally vague, but basically you're supposed to quarantine for two weeks.

00:59:41.220 So you have to quarantine for two weeks.

00:59:43.420 And then there's, uh, under some circumstances, you, it's the same as Australia where you essentially have to go to a hotel and then you pay for it and you stay at this hotel.

00:59:50.780 So right now my life is so busy and I'm touring like crazy and I'm doing all these videos and we're making a movie and it's, you know, I barely have a day, you know, I could probably make a three, you know, four day pack to, you know, whatever, go see my parents or something like that.

01:00:04.760 And, uh, and you're honest, I guess you're, you're not willing to lie.

01:00:09.820 Well, I don't think, um, you'd be able to get on like right now.

01:00:13.540 It's not a matter of whether, of course I'd be willing to lie.

01:00:16.440 Yeah.

01:00:16.860 I don't care.

01:00:17.980 Of course I would.

01:00:18.620 But if you go to the plane, they look at when your last thing was, I mean, maybe you could get away with it, but again, I'm like, did they, did the border guards check?

01:00:27.080 Like when you enter, I like, there's gotta be a way around this.

01:00:30.420 Well, maybe, but what I'm saying is I don't think that that's the move for me right now is when they go, Hey, they were very serious about this, you know, blah, blah, blah.

01:00:40.740 And I go, Hey, why don't I go try it?

01:00:42.760 And then what?

01:00:43.460 After three days I go to the airport and they're like, well, you have to be in quarantine right now.

01:00:46.860 And then what?

01:00:47.640 I'm stuck in Canada and I, my life gets put on hold for, you know, in a very busy time.

01:00:51.720 So I've also bought new stuff, mind you.

01:00:54.280 So, so, uh, around Christmas, I was like, all right, I'll go back and see some people around Christmas and take that chance.

01:01:00.100 And I sort of figured that out.

01:01:01.020 And then my mom, you know, my parents were like, wow, we, we don't feel comfortable or whatever.

01:01:05.420 You know, everyone's no way they're all in.

01:01:07.880 Right.

01:01:08.340 So my, I, I, well, but she's gone through every phases I watch, you know, she's very, uh, normal person and she, she's gone through all the phases she's gone through.

01:01:16.780 You know, this is outrageous.

01:01:18.300 And then she's gone through, well, if other people just locked down, uh, we wouldn't have to be dealing with this.

01:01:24.180 And then she was, she had a while where she was like mainlining CNN and she was getting all fired up about Trump.

01:01:28.820 She, she, she like, she went through all the, I watched her go through every different phase.

01:01:32.900 And I think that that's what a lot of people are doing.

01:01:34.500 You know, one week there, something, and sometimes it's one day or something and one time to do something else.

01:01:38.620 And then she would be to me, you know, like if, if, cause I'm touring and stuff and she'd be, a lot of people would say that to me.

01:01:44.600 It's, you know, if people like you that are, you know, touring and going to other places, if you weren't doing this, this lockdown wouldn't be happening.

01:01:50.520 And I'm like, well, yeah, I don't believe that.

01:01:52.460 You know, I don't believe that's the case, but I understand, you know, so I, I, I've watched people that I know and care about all go through all the rollercoaster of, you know, different opinions and different philosophies.

01:02:05.420 And, but basically they're just trying to stay sane because, you know, the world's put people's lives on hold for two years and it sucks.

01:02:13.340 I know.

01:02:13.940 And especially in an era of disinformation when it comes to, I don't know, during the Trump presidency and the media and now with COVID and the CDC and the WHO saying China, you know, it came from, it came from a bat cave.

01:02:26.460 We swear it definitely wasn't the lab.

01:02:27.880 And then it's like the disinformation, not to mention Russia, by the way, which does, even though they haven't done most of what they've been blamed for, they've done a lot.

01:02:36.640 So it's just, there's, there's, it's hard for, especially for older people, um, to sort of stay, yeah, like in tune with what's real and people are losing touch with reality.

01:02:47.700 Especially if you had faith in these organizations, you know, it's hard to convince them that no, no, no, no, trust me now they're lying to you.

01:02:54.620 Or maybe they were lying to you before, but the lie, you know, it just wasn't so extreme.

01:02:57.460 And then, you know, you're trying to rejig like how you interface with the world.

01:03:01.800 And when people do rejig that at 55 or whatever, a lot of them end up, you know, really crazy.

01:03:08.500 So yeah, it's a difficult time for people to navigate right now, especially when you're, yeah, you've, you've been in this world for a long time.

01:03:18.120 That's what, that's what the, we talked about the Susan Collins cross-examination of the CDC director, but that's kind of what the Senator was saying.

01:03:25.180 Senator Collins was saying, look, lady people, you know, a large portion of people still look to the CDC for guidance and your hysterics on camp, just for one example, and outdoor exposure is undermining your other messages that we still agree with.

01:03:45.820 We, the Susan Collins is of the world, you know, it's like the New York times reporter I mentioned, he, he came out and he said flat on, this is true.

01:03:52.720 We've seen this elsewhere, but there's, there's not a single, not a single documented COVID infection anywhere in the world for casual outdoor interactions, like walking past somebody on a street or eating at a nearby table.

01:04:05.580 And yet still, this is what they tell us.

01:04:08.560 And people are like, who do I believe?

01:04:10.120 And I, I mean, I think most Republicans in America, at least have been like, not her, we're not listening to Rochelle, we're not listening to Fauci, like they've gotten it.

01:04:16.980 But I think a lot of the Democrats who didn't trust Trump and sort of leaned into Fauci and, and sort of the infectious disease world, that sounds weird, but you know, the spokespeople for it, they're still there.

01:04:27.620 But people are all getting the vaccine, you know, it's, if you want to get a vaccine, you can get one in 10 seconds.

01:04:33.320 I mean, like, in my opinion, you know, this is over, you know, this is over and it's, people don't want it to be over.

01:04:41.320 And I kind of did a video of making fun of that.

01:04:43.600 Why don't they want it to be over?

01:04:45.240 Well, a lot of people, I think the more cynical view would be, there's a lot of power involved right now.

01:04:52.820 And I mean, you know, if you're the, the government, every, everyone, there's a lot of people that are incentivized to have this continue.

01:04:58.780 I mean, the government has a blank check to do whatever they want right now.

01:05:02.340 Um, I mean, if you look in certain places, you know, I know people here that are getting a lot of money for free from the government and why would they go back to work?

01:05:09.880 I mean, Canada, you get $2,000 a month.

01:05:11.600 I mean, some people that have bad jobs and especially a lot of like comedians that I know that didn't have money.

01:05:15.860 It's like, dude, they're getting $2,000 a month and, you know, maybe still doing some other stuff on the side.

01:05:22.160 And a lot of people are in day trading now and stuff like that.

01:05:24.880 And they're like, what's the issue?

01:05:26.880 Why exactly do I want to go back to my job at a restaurant?

01:05:30.080 So I think a lot of people, a lot of people are incentivized for this to keep going.

01:05:33.680 And then a lot of people, the COVID stuff, again, same with Trump is like kind of become their identity of, you know, telling people what to do one way or the other.

01:05:42.260 And so I think there's a lot of institutions, you know, like Fauci.

01:05:47.180 I mean, once this is over, we're never going to hear that name again.

01:05:49.520 That guy's out.

01:05:50.960 God willing.

01:05:52.160 Yeah.

01:05:52.500 But you know what I mean?

01:05:53.120 Like he's the star of the world right now.

01:05:55.360 And it's like, once this is over, like that's the end of me hearing about that name.

01:05:58.560 It should be the end now.

01:05:59.860 It's like you can get a vaccine if you want to.

01:06:01.560 This is over.

01:06:02.860 So on the Upper West Side where I live, there's this little like bookstore slash toy store.

01:06:07.500 And I love it.

01:06:08.000 It's actually totally charming.

01:06:09.180 But they're in love with every liberal ever born.

01:06:11.320 And like you walk in and it's like a shrine to the most famous progressives in America.

01:06:16.560 Like I tweeted out a picture the other day of they have these little action dolls in Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden.

01:06:23.620 AOC was there in a white pantsuit.

01:06:25.660 And they even had a Dr. Fauci action figure.

01:06:30.300 And I was like, so hot.

01:06:32.140 They've gone too far.

01:06:33.180 My friends, we've gone too far.

01:06:36.120 Can I tell you something?

01:06:36.940 My my kids got it for me for Mother's Day as a joke.

01:06:40.420 That's funny.

01:06:41.840 I mean, but it's bad.

01:06:44.000 Like, I'm worried about the love for Fauci.

01:06:46.480 I put him up there with Arnold and Steven Seagal in terms of the true heroes of our generation.

01:06:52.340 But OK, let me ask you a question.

01:06:53.880 If you so, you know, I know that you're in New York and this is where you live.

01:06:58.060 Is it just the roots are too high?

01:06:59.480 So in your personal opinion, if you kind of, you know, see what most people in places like New York think as, you know, crazy or whatever, how come you wouldn't move to, you know, somewhere else that would more suitable to you?

01:07:14.680 Is it is it that you just have a life here and you like the city?

01:07:17.400 Like, what would be your hesitation?

01:07:22.060 You know, it's like to quote Tom Cruise from the movie Far and Away, which I love.

01:07:27.000 I'm of Ireland and I'll stay in Ireland to the day I die.

01:07:30.060 He didn't.

01:07:30.580 But I, you know, I was born, well, in Illinois, but I moved here seven months old and I've spent my entire life here.

01:07:38.360 You know, I did a five year stint in Chicago, but I was I'm from Syracuse.

01:07:42.820 I'm from Albany.

01:07:43.400 I'm from New York City.

01:07:44.040 These are the places I've spent my life.

01:07:45.360 This is my mom is in Albany.

01:07:46.780 My husband's family's in Philadelphia.

01:07:48.100 We're of the Northeast and that's where we're going to stay. 0.94

01:07:51.140 Like, that's sort of who we are culturally, though, not politically.

01:07:54.760 Do you know what I mean?

01:07:55.220 We're just used to like a faster paced life, urban centers, tons of cultural options, very nearby.

01:08:01.620 You know, in New York, obviously, it's the greatest city in the world in many, many ways.

01:08:04.620 You got Broadway, you got Lincoln Center, you've got the restaurants, the bar scene, all of which has been closed down.

01:08:08.780 And it was a major, major bummer, but it's coming back comedy.

01:08:12.380 So I love all that.

01:08:13.920 And I and all of my friends are here and my children now are 11, 10 and seven.

01:08:19.460 All their friends are here.

01:08:20.700 And our our network of people that we've spent the past two decades with are here.

01:08:25.620 We don't want to leave.

01:08:26.840 We don't want to leave.

01:08:28.400 I just want the crazy.

01:08:29.580 And even moving to New York, I knew well that they would be progressive, that this is a progressive city.

01:08:34.240 And it's a liberal, it's a liberal metropolitan.

01:08:36.280 That's fine.

01:08:36.840 My family are Democrats.

01:08:38.280 I have nothing against Democrats.

01:08:39.720 I just don't want indoctrination.

01:08:41.300 And really what happened in the schools here, which is a longer story and something I've talked about previous to this, is what's leading us to go.

01:08:48.740 It's not my liberal neighbors.

01:08:50.620 I love them.

01:08:51.260 I don't they're not trying to lecture me.

01:08:52.600 It's these schools which are which have a very divisive, very dangerous message right now.

01:08:57.260 And there's just zero chance I'm going to let that happen to my children.

01:09:00.120 So we're leaving, I guess, a little bit under protest.

01:09:04.000 You know, it's not when people find out you're leaving. 0.96

01:09:06.140 They're like, oh, I know New York sucks. 0.99

01:09:07.460 It's dirty. 1.00

01:09:07.900 It's gross.

01:09:08.120 I'm like, no, that's not it.

01:09:09.380 I actually still love New York and I love New York State, but I'm not going to live like this.

01:09:14.560 But I don't want to have to move to Texas or Florida to get the things that I think are reasonable.

01:09:18.020 Do you think that there is some level of that those things come with a liberal metropolitan?

01:09:27.960 Like the idea that that is the tradeoff that in liberal metropolitans, you know, you kind of have a more vibrant art scene and you kind of have a more vibrant, you know, culture of the sort that you're talking about, whether that be nightlife or whatever.

01:09:44.240 And that is sort of the tradeoff, in your opinion, or do you think that it doesn't have to be like that?

01:09:50.620 No, because I think most liberals and even progressives are on my side when it comes to being anti-woke, like rejecting critical race theory and the constant judging of people and cancel culture.

01:10:01.560 I just think that that is a very loud group that's overtaken large cities, schools, you know, colleges, sports.

01:10:09.980 They're just so loud.

01:10:11.140 But I do believe.

01:10:12.840 I think you're right.

01:10:15.100 As you would put it, the Church of Woke, right?

01:10:17.340 I've seen it in your in your your videos.

01:10:20.040 They're they're their own special, in quotes, group.

01:10:24.700 And they we have to fight them.

01:10:27.420 Now, sadly, our school systems have surrendered to them because they have no spines.

01:10:31.840 You know, some liberals right now, I think, are confused that being progressive, being supportive, being not non-bullying, being, quote, an ally means you have to support the Church of Woke.

01:10:41.220 And you don't.

01:10:41.960 I know enough liberals and progressives who are saying like privately, like, what the hell that I believe they're on our side. 0.98

01:10:47.700 So and New York has existed for, you know, how many years now, being a progressive city, not buying into that bullshit like this stuff was not in our schools. 0.98

01:10:55.620 It was not being forced down the throats. 0.98

01:10:57.740 Yeah.

01:10:57.820 There needs to be a new word to describe, you know, someone that is liberal, but not that.

01:11:03.260 And I mean, on the Internet, you know, people kind of throw around the term dirtbag left, which, you know, in terms of the podcast world.

01:11:09.000 I didn't know that.

01:11:09.560 You know, a lot of comedians, you know, whatever that I would call themselves liberals or whatever that aren't, you know, for all this stuff.

01:11:18.520 That's kind of a term that a lot of people use to describe what that would be.

01:11:22.560 But, yeah, I think a lot of it is still the terminology and the identity.

01:11:26.160 So, yeah, you go if you you know, these people essentially elected themselves in charge of, you know, what that group thinks.

01:11:34.060 And then if you don't want to be in that group, you get kicked out.

01:11:36.220 And I mean, how many people have we probably all seen in the last year?

01:11:40.220 People that, you know, were part of, you know, consider themselves that group.

01:11:43.560 And then they go, no, we're not.

01:11:45.940 You're actually not because, you know, so they're you know, they're I always said I've been saying the rights auditioning for members and the left's kicking people out a member.

01:11:53.520 The left's kicking people out. And that kind of always shows you who has the power, you know, whatever whatever group has the, you know, cultural power is the one that is kicking people out.

01:12:03.160 But, you know, when you do all that stuff, you you you lose your power.

01:12:06.300 And I think that's what I'm kind of saying about Hollywood and all of these industries, whether that be big tech, all of them are using their legacy power to exert influence, which is in turn diminishing their power.

01:12:19.660 I mean, they're they're exchanging their power to, you know, as have policy and affected or to have radical change happen.

01:12:29.500 First, Canada loses Ryan Long. Next, Hollywood loses America.

01:12:34.460 I see the parallels. I see what's happening here, Ryan.

01:12:37.540 Hollywood's been losing America for a long time. It's just, you know, I think that people put up they just weren't they weren't rubbing it in your face so much.

01:12:44.220 You know, I think before everyone knew that they were watching, you know, these movies, they were probably made everyone in a lot of America was knew that they were watching movies made by, you know, people that, you know, kind of didn't like them.

01:12:58.140 But they didn't the movies weren't the premise of the movie wasn't you're bad.

01:13:06.540 You know, I think that and that's why I like comedy clubs like to me are the one of the last refuges is because in comedy clubs, it's all about at least, you know, the comedy that a lot of people do is all about, you know, kind of losing them and then getting them back. 0.99

01:13:21.680 And then you kind of agree with this group and then you kind of agree with this group and pit everyone against each other and you kind of play these mind games and you're doing all that stuff.

01:13:28.760 Right. Whereas on the Internet, there there isn't that part of it.

01:13:31.940 It's you kind of say you're you're one thing.

01:13:33.540 But there's so many comedians, I think, that are what you said that, you know, they're like, OK, I'm not going to watch something or I'm not going to watch something or normal people. 0.98

01:13:48.640 I'm not going to watch something where the premise of it is, I suck. 0.95

01:13:52.820 That's right. 0.73

01:13:53.860 You know, or be part of a system like I don't want to, you know, work at a place and people shouldn't want to work at a place where, you know, the the agenda of the the organization is that I'm bad.

01:14:06.840 Yeah. Well, it's like when a couple of years ago, Ben Affleck came out and said openly he would not act across someone who was an open Republican who's out as a Republican.

01:14:19.120 So we do. It's not like a shock that Hollywood's left.

01:14:22.100 But, you know, what's happened now is next level.

01:14:25.120 And of course, the whole country is experiencing it.

01:14:26.960 And so with that, I say, welcome to America.

01:14:29.560 I appreciate the social commentaries because they've brought a lot of laughs.

01:14:33.940 And, you know, I do have to play that Church of Woke before we go, because I want people to hear how you nailed it, how you how you understand this group and their weird messaging.

01:14:43.060 Let's listen to that soundbite five.

01:14:44.420 You know, the Church of Woke is just like any other church, except our God is intersectionality and our devil is intolerance.

01:14:49.860 But while some other religions allow you to repent and ask for forgiveness, we prefer you to repent in the form of a formal apology.

01:14:55.600 And then we cast you out anyway.

01:14:56.980 And now shall put their pronouns in their bio.

01:14:59.700 Right now, we're working on having our beliefs intertwined with the state.

01:15:02.620 Get our teachings into schools, workplaces, the rule of law, sort of the unification of the state and woke.

01:15:07.520 It is time for you to shut your mouth and listen, but it is also not my job to educate you.

01:15:13.460 You want to confuse them a little bit so they just stop thinking and defer to you on everything? 0.63

01:15:16.800 That's the greatest line.

01:15:18.440 I wrote it down. 0.98

01:15:19.700 Shut your mouth and listen, but it is not my job to educate you. 0.99

01:15:23.240 That's exactly right. 0.99

01:15:25.220 Yeah.

01:15:26.120 No, no questions.

01:15:27.640 Yeah, I think that I mean, I've been around.

01:15:30.100 That's been my world my whole life.

01:15:31.420 And I think that I kind of the same way that, you know, the best comedy, you're making fun of people that you understand.

01:15:37.600 Like when I was, you know, doing the bass player stuff and I was, you know, spent my life playing in bands and I did a show about Toronto and the CBC, whereas I think that was probably one of the biggest problems with everyone making fun of Trump or in the modern era, people that were making fun of even people on the right is they were picking the wrong things because they actually didn't understand those people.

01:15:58.560 So I think it is I try to like understand people.

01:16:02.940 It's when you play a character, you almost need to find a way to like him, even if it's like a serial killer, if it's the you almost need to, you know, understand why they're doing what they're doing if you want to do it right.

01:16:12.760 And I think that's one of the things that probably is a little bit missing in mainstream comedy is people are making fun of people that they hate and don't understand a lot of times.

01:16:24.300 Wow, that's really good.

01:16:25.760 That's your secret weapon, the Canadian back Canadian. 0.99

01:16:29.060 Debbie, you have something positive about Canada.

01:16:31.860 Here we go.

01:16:32.820 I will tell you what I from being Canadian, I do find that I am a little less fighty than Americans.

01:16:41.760 And sometimes it's like there are.

01:16:44.000 Yeah, because, you know, I spend so much time having people yell at me on the Internet.

01:16:47.640 And I feel like it is something that I'm getting better at.

01:16:51.320 But it is I can it is true that my, you know, nice Canadian this is in there.

01:16:56.380 And I'm like, why is everyone yelling at me?

01:16:59.260 We'll get rid of that in no time.

01:17:00.980 Give us one more year.

01:17:02.460 Yeah, obviously.

01:17:03.200 Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe.

01:17:06.340 But obviously, I know that I'm, you know, stepping my foot in these waters that you're not supposed to step in.

01:17:10.920 But it's I think it's the I honestly, it does remind me of the same thing that I've been dealing with my whole life where it's like, I was the one that needed to, like, cause all this trouble.

01:17:19.860 But then when I get in the office, I'm just like, I don't know, I'm just trying to be funny.

01:17:25.800 The reluctantly mean.

01:17:28.960 Yeah, yeah, I just I don't know, for whatever reason, it's me and my friends are kind of you have this by nature to kind of stir stuff up and, and the comedy that interests me and the things that I want to say that interest me are always that if you're allowed to say it, it kind of, you know, doesn't feel interesting to me.

01:17:47.240 It's, I'm trying to say things that, you know, you're not supposed to say that I believe that haven't been said right.

01:17:53.560 And so you're living in the right world.

01:17:55.920 This is this world was made for you.

01:17:57.940 Yeah, but then you're all but then your whole life is everyone yelling at you.

01:18:00.920 So every every once in a while, you're like, maybe I should not be a comedian. 0.99

01:18:04.040 This sucks. 0.93

01:18:05.180 Debbie, Debbie is just by background, Debbie, she was in New York with me and then she moved to Canada a long time ago. 1.00

01:18:10.180 She married a damn Canadian and had a bunch of damn Canadian babies. 1.00

01:18:13.140 Now I lost her to damn Canada. 1.00

01:18:14.280 Um, but anyway, she's just sending me a picture of the caption is Canadian protest. 0.99

01:18:19.920 And on the half, one half is somebody holding a sign that reads, don't do it again.

01:18:24.140 Okay.

01:18:24.860 And the other half is somebody holding a sign, a big man saying, um, I, I, I'm a little upset.

01:18:33.320 I've, I've been saying on stage that Americans are a little bit like spoiled rich kids where everyone from every country wants to come here.

01:18:40.320 And you guys are like, we're like, we want to come to your house, you know, your dad has a pool and a trampoline.

01:18:44.520 You're like, you don't get it. 0.83

01:18:45.320 My dad's a Nazi.

01:18:46.540 You know, that's like the gist of it.

01:18:48.720 Everyone wants to come here. 0.98

01:18:49.640 And Americans like, what are you crazy? 1.00

01:18:51.040 America is the worst. 1.00

01:18:52.260 Like everyone wants to move here. 0.98

01:18:54.440 Right.

01:18:54.900 And that's, that's the truth.

01:18:56.320 And that's a happy note to leave it on.

01:18:57.660 Listen, welcome.

01:18:58.200 Welcome aboard.

01:18:58.960 We love having you and, uh, look forward to much more entertainment.

01:19:02.400 Good luck with it all.

01:19:03.540 Yeah.

01:19:03.700 Thanks a lot for having me.

01:19:04.620 I appreciate it.

01:19:09.200 All right.

01:19:09.780 Don't miss our show on Monday because we've got Carlos Watson.

01:19:13.560 Now, Carlos, uh, is the CEO and co-founder of Aussie media, which is doing really well.

01:19:18.520 Uh, but he also hosts the Carlos Watson show, which is super, super popular and gets like very big names.

01:19:25.540 I mean, you name it, they've been on there, including me, but I don't count myself among them.

01:19:29.100 But, um, we've had great discussions, including discussions on race and he doesn't come at the

01:19:34.760 police or the race issue, certainly from where I do, from where John McWhorter does, from where

01:19:40.100 Glenn Lowry or Coleman Hughes, uh, come, but he's like a really reasonable, thoughtful person talking

01:19:46.300 about these issues from a different viewpoint.

01:19:49.380 And, you know, he's a black man and he's got a different experience that he brings to this.

01:19:53.860 He's a journalist.

01:19:54.460 So, you know, he's straight news, but he's, he's put a toe into these opinionated waters when it

01:19:59.460 comes to stuff like George Floyd and so on and willing to have a really thoughtful, good, respectful

01:20:05.500 conversation.

01:20:06.360 Cause that's what he does.

01:20:07.480 Like that's what he's known for.

01:20:08.800 And he's going to do it with me, uh, on Monday on these tough, tough issues that we've all been

01:20:13.780 trying to explore together.

01:20:15.220 So we'll get a different viewpoint.

01:20:16.480 I'm really looking forward to it.

01:20:17.700 And I know you're going to love Carlos.

01:20:19.040 All right.

01:20:19.360 Have a great weekend and we'll talk Monday.

01:20:20.960 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - May 14, 2021

Ryan Long on Intersectional Trainwrecks, the State of Comedy, and COVID Hypocrisy ｜ Ep. 102

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