The Megyn Kelly Show - San Fran's Reparations, Today Show COVID Freakout, and Gisele Fetterman's Vacation, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts ｜ Ep. 502

00:00:00.000 When I found out my friend got a great deal

00:00:02.160 on a wool coat from Winners,

00:00:03.780 I started wondering,

00:00:05.440 is every fabulous item I see from Winners?

00:00:08.560 Like that woman over there with the designer jeans. 1.00

00:00:11.260 Are those from Winners?

00:00:12.780 Ooh, or those beautiful gold earrings?

00:00:15.260 Did she pay full price?

00:00:16.600 Or that leather tote?

00:00:17.620 Or that cashmere sweater?

00:00:18.840 Or those knee-high boots?

00:00:20.280 That dress?

00:00:21.060 That jacket?

00:00:21.740 Those shoes?

00:00:22.760 Is anyone paying full price for anything?

00:00:25.720 Stop wondering.

00:00:26.980 Start winning.

00:00:27.920 Winners.

00:00:28.500 Find fabulous for less.

00:00:30.720 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show,

00:00:32.520 your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:42.260 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:43.860 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Tuesday.

00:00:46.660 Do you have a snow day today?

00:00:47.560 We have a snow day here in Connecticut

00:00:49.200 and I am so happy for my kids.

00:00:52.020 They don't do it like they used to do it when we were kids.

00:00:54.280 You know, remember when we were back in my day,

00:00:56.580 you had to wake up, turn on the radio,

00:00:58.100 and you had to wait forever.

00:01:00.000 They used to go alphabetically through the schools.

00:01:02.400 And I went to Bethlehem, Bethlehem Central in a suburb of Albany.

00:01:06.660 And if you tuned in on like the, you know, the M's, 1.00

00:01:10.760 oh, it was interminable waiting for them to go all the way through

00:01:13.440 to get back to the B's.

00:01:14.600 And you'd hear, Bethlehem closed today.

00:01:16.560 It'd be so...

00:01:16.940 Anyway, now they tell you the night before.

00:01:19.680 So my kids were thrilled.

00:01:21.300 We had such a nice night at home last night,

00:01:23.780 just the five of us.

00:01:25.000 We've been watching Lost.

00:01:26.340 You know Lost, right?

00:01:27.900 Such a good show.

00:01:29.100 It's great.

00:01:29.760 It's a little violent.

00:01:30.740 So, you know, for the really young ones, maybe not.

00:01:32.900 But our nine-year-old's taking it just fine.

00:01:35.620 Anyway, we're in the last season.

00:01:37.060 It's been so fun.

00:01:38.000 Lit a fire.

00:01:38.920 Had some leftover lasagna.

00:01:40.420 It was awesome.

00:01:41.280 Hope you had an awesome night too.

00:01:42.980 And here's to the joy of the snow day.

00:01:46.860 My snow day's with you.

00:01:48.140 And actually, I'll tell you just an epilogue to it.

00:01:49.760 My son Yates said,

00:01:51.880 Mom, you never get a snow day.

00:01:53.160 You know, you'd need like the power to go off.

00:01:55.760 We have a generator, so that wouldn't do it.

00:01:57.800 In order for you not to be able to do the show.

00:01:59.440 And I said, honey, I love doing the show.

00:02:01.440 I look forward to doing my job.

00:02:03.280 And he said, really?

00:02:04.560 And I said, yeah, get yourself a job like that when you get older.

00:02:08.080 So starting the day in a great mood.

00:02:10.300 Happy to be with all of you and to kick off the news today.

00:02:14.320 The U.S. Supreme Court, considering the Biden student loan forgiveness program,

00:02:20.740 like some people get forgiven their debt that they willingly took on.

00:02:24.360 And others, like, you know, some random truck driver who never took on those responsibilities

00:02:28.440 because he didn't want them, will have to pay them.

00:02:32.060 How's that going to work out?

00:02:33.440 This is I do not believe this will be upheld.

00:02:35.240 I think the Biden administration will be slapped down again for its extra legal behavior.

00:02:41.580 But the court is listening to the arguments now and will have its say in June.

00:02:46.460 This is the 2024 race heats up.

00:02:48.240 Ron DeSantis not yet declared.

00:02:50.360 Come on.

00:02:51.380 We know he's running.

00:02:52.760 Looking more and more like a potential candidate as he releases a new book out today.

00:02:57.120 New polls indicating former President Trump is still in the driver's seat for the Republican

00:03:00.880 nomination.

00:03:01.540 Here to break down all the news of the day, John Ashby.

00:03:05.240 Brooke, Michael Duncan, Josh Holmes, and the man known as Comfortably Smug.

00:03:10.840 Together, they are the hosts of the Ruthless program.

00:03:15.020 Welcome back, guys.

00:03:15.640 Great to have you.

00:03:16.760 Hello, Megan.

00:03:17.660 Great to be here.

00:03:18.960 So you must love Supreme Court news, given the way your podcast was named Ruthless.

00:03:24.580 It has a few different meanings, but, you know, the Supreme Court is now Ruthless.

00:03:29.660 And they're taking up the forgiveness program, just like the Inflation Reduction Act.

00:03:37.520 Both are lies.

00:03:39.120 And I do believe the Supreme Court will strike this effort down. 0.70

00:03:43.220 And he will be like the dog that gets hit in the face with the newspaper yet again.

00:03:48.760 But he does this just as a political. 0.98

00:03:51.400 It's shameless.

00:03:52.180 It's a politically shameless move.

00:03:54.500 He knows he doesn't have these powers.

00:03:56.800 And yet that's not how the media is reporting it.

00:03:58.640 The media is basically saying, if the if these nine elite justices have the nerve to take away this forgiveness plan from these needy students, there will be hell to pay.

00:04:11.720 Oh, OK.

00:04:14.680 He's wealthy, wealthy, privileged few.

00:04:18.740 Right.

00:04:18.880 Apparently, they didn't do a Google search on Clarence Thomas before they fired that one out.

00:04:22.940 I think that was a headline from CNN.

00:04:24.860 But, you know, like back back to the issue.

00:04:26.780 Honestly, Megan, I mean, I don't think you actually need to be F. Lee Bailey to figure out that, like, when the government in the executive branch just appropriates a trillion dollars from one side of the community to the other without the legislative branch, that seems a touch unconstitutional to me.

00:04:47.000 Yeah.

00:04:47.440 And then the whole the whole thing about it being a plan, they keep calling it Biden's plan or his program like this was something that he lobbied for and got through Congress.

00:04:55.460 Yeah. Right. Like, it's not just an executive order that with like a pen, he can be like, oh, trillion dollars is going to these people.

00:05:00.880 My voters. Well, thought the CNN tweet was as follows.

00:05:05.720 The fate of Biden's student loan forgiveness program.

00:05:08.940 Again, misnomer that would impact scores of borrowers from a wide array of colleges and socioeconomic backgrounds.

00:05:17.300 In other words, these are the poorest of the poor, not rich lawyers.

00:05:20.340 Don't believe your loving eyes. Right.

00:05:21.980 OK. Lies in the hands of nine relatively wealthy people who graduated from a short list of elite private schools.

00:05:31.940 Like, talk about missing the issue.

00:05:35.780 He it's unconstitutional, CNN.

00:05:39.320 I get you like it, but it's unconstitutional.

00:05:42.720 I mean, this is how the left sees the law, though, Megan. Right.

00:05:46.580 I mean, they don't ever argue the law or argue the facts or argue the constitutionality of some.

00:05:51.600 It's whether it feels good. Right.

00:05:53.300 Oh, whether this is something that that befits an organization or people that we have sympathy for.

00:05:59.280 Right. I mean, it's mind blowing to me also that they can constantly delete the presence of Clarence Thomas on this court.

00:06:08.460 As if this is someone if you've done even a cursory amount of background on, you understand that this is not a man from privilege.

00:06:16.880 This is certainly not somebody who you could put in a in a thimble of elite in this country.

00:06:23.200 Right. Probably the most unbelievable story to the rise of Supreme Court in the history of justices.

00:06:28.900 I mean, Smug, you've been all over that.

00:06:30.300 That's that's the thing that really upset me about, you know, trying to describe these as privileged individuals.

00:06:35.180 I've mentioned it before on the show. There's a really great documentary about Clarence Thomas.

00:06:39.220 And one of the things that you learn is at one point, all of his possessions fit in a small paper bag when he was moving from his grandmother's house.

00:06:47.540 Everything he owned in the world fit in a brown paper bag.

00:06:50.000 And the man became a Supreme Court justice.

00:06:51.900 That's a triumph of this country. And now they're attacking him as being privileged and not these college kids who refuse to pay the debts that they willingly took on.

00:07:00.920 And another point of when you try to make this a socioeconomic thing, the data shows the vast majority of people who would benefit from the student loan forgiveness are wealthy, liberal, white, elite students.

00:07:14.000 Right. They've taken out massive loans for these schools for for degrees that clearly can't generate any sort of an income that would allow them to pay back such a massive loan.

00:07:23.360 So why should the rest of Americans be on the hook for them?

00:07:26.340 And it's outlandish. It's it's unbelievable. And like you mentioned, Megan, what makes it so much worse is the way that the media has tried to portray this.

00:07:35.320 Those there's one reporter who I saw this morning, Stephen Mazie, who's the Supreme Court reporter for The Economist.

00:07:40.260 This is supposed to be someone who sticks to the facts. He's the worst. He's the worst.

00:07:43.820 This is essentially an activist when he says that, you know, if these people decide not to go with student loan forgiveness, it'll make the Supreme Court, which is already being questioned, more unpopular. 0.94

00:07:54.720 He's undermining the Supreme Court of the United States after a left wing lunatic tried to assassinate Justice Kavanaugh.

00:08:02.760 And they're continuing their attacks and saying that the Supreme Court is supposed to be some kind of a popularity contest by giving handouts to Biden voters.

00:08:08.860 Right. You are out of the running for prom king. That's it. You author this decision. It's done.

00:08:13.680 This is why Thomas's background is so inconvenient to their narrative. And they knew this was coming.

00:08:21.220 I mean, this is why Joe Biden worked overtime to block Thomas from the Supreme Court back in the 90s.

00:08:26.740 They remember all the things they all the lies they told about him, everything they did to try to stop him because they knew that his mere existence was completely debunked.

00:08:37.840 To the fiction of their narrative about everything in our society. And, you know, if you want to talk about elite private schools, just look at some of the northeastern schools with $80,000 tuitions that maybe most listeners haven't even heard of with these elite students who come from Manhattan and places like Connecticut.

00:08:56.060 Yeah, that's true. I prefer to refer to it as New England, if you don't mind. Extra snooty, but with fireplaces.

00:09:09.680 No, but you're so right. And a nice leftover lasagna.

00:09:12.900 To me, it's so aggravating. You know, it's like I did not come from a family with tons of dough. My dad died when I was in high school. My mom was a nurse. My mom had to put my brother, my sister and me through college with my dad's insurance money.

00:09:24.120 Um, I had a lot of debt. I put myself through law school and the, and I had a hundred thousand dollars of debt when I got out of that school. And you know what I did? I got a job. I, I wanted to be a DA. That's what I wanted to do, but it paid $30,000 a year.

00:09:39.900 And I had a hundred grand in debt and I was tired of being poor. So I sold out and I went to the big law firm and I made $85,000 a year my first year out. It was amazing. I felt like such a success story and I paid off my debt in five years.

00:09:55.180 And I was very proud of myself for doing that. Now, yes, if, if Biden had swooped in, maybe I'd be a DA. How would the left like that? Me as a DA in New York City, I don't think they would have liked that better.

00:10:06.740 I'd love to see that. That would be, that's what most people do.

00:10:10.400 Yeah. And then, I mean, it presents a moral hazard question. We're going forward. If things like this are allowed, what's next? Blue states that voted for Biden, their mortgages, the rest of us have to start paying for them.

00:10:20.720 There's no limit to what they're asking for. It was rent forgiveness, student loan forgiveness. They essentially want to turn half this country into a piggy bank for the other half because it benefits this administration politically.

00:10:31.980 That's such a good point. That's such a good point. At what point are we going to talk when we talk about student loans? Are we going to talk about the obligations of the universities and colleges?

00:10:39.960 Yeah, huge.

00:10:40.740 I mean, the idea that all of a sudden the taxpayer is just sort of saddled with these enormous costs. Let's just throw the constitutionality out entirely. Let's just say this happens.

00:10:49.720 All of a sudden, the American taxpayer is saddled with these huge costs of higher education for this country, and nobody has asked for a price tag.

00:10:59.060 Right.

00:10:59.360 There's not a single person who's like, you know, does it really cost $80,000 to educate a kid in this country?

00:11:05.260 To redo your senior year.

00:11:06.540 And like, I don't know, let's have a look at these endowments for a second.

00:11:09.540 Right.

00:11:09.800 Exactly, right.

00:11:10.420 $2 billion endowments?

00:11:11.640 Maybe we could pay off those student loans with the interest off those multi-billion dollar endowments. 0.98

00:11:16.480 Let's start taxing the shit out of those endowments. 0.99

00:11:18.960 You know, if you want it, then be careful what you ask for. 0.98

00:11:22.900 Right.

00:11:23.080 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:11:24.320 So meantime, speaking of spending money that we don't have with no accountability, it hit the news today that, you know, San Francisco and California too, but San Francisco has got its own task force on reparations.

00:11:35.460 And San Francisco is recommending, its task force has recommended $5 million for the black people in San Francisco.

00:11:44.680 And California is going to follow suit.

00:11:46.420 They've got their own task force about to make a similar recommendation, though we don't know the numbers there.

00:11:49.980 And the requirements to get it do not require you to show that you are the descendant of a slave because slavery was never allowed in California.

00:11:59.360 You basically just have to be black or be identifying as black for the past 10 years.

00:12:05.960 Just identifying. 0.73

00:12:07.240 OK.

00:12:07.740 Identify.

00:12:08.260 Plus one other random thing, which it's a very easy list.

00:12:12.480 Most people are going to be able to say they qualify.

00:12:14.440 And when pressed, how did you come up with $5 million per person in a city that has got a budget overload?

00:12:23.020 So does the state and so on.

00:12:24.200 They're already not able to pay their bills with these.

00:12:26.200 They're never going to be able to afford this.

00:12:27.860 Their answer was.

00:12:33.420 You're like kind of ballpark policy.

00:12:36.740 Ballparked.

00:12:37.640 Why not?

00:12:38.540 Right.

00:12:38.760 So like, good.

00:12:40.100 I feel like I'm sorry.

00:12:41.540 I think of like my our friend David Sachs, you know, out there of the all in podcast.

00:12:44.940 I feel for somebody like that.

00:12:46.760 I feel for Adam Carolla, you know, who's been raising his kids out there.

00:12:49.900 He doesn't want to leave the state that in which he's been for.

00:12:52.340 So but like these guys are going to get screwed because that state and that city are going to do something like this.

00:12:58.200 And they're going to be doling out money to people who have absolutely no claim to anything close to reparations.

00:13:05.520 Yeah.

00:13:05.980 Well, I mean, I think everybody should start getting a DNA test, right?

00:13:08.820 I mean, there's no real qualification.

00:13:10.540 It worked out well for Elizabeth Warren.

00:13:12.320 Yeah.

00:13:13.340 Start identifying one immediately.

00:13:16.300 186.

00:13:16.760 There's something like that.

00:13:17.640 All of a sudden you got five mil bone.

00:13:19.000 Yeah.

00:13:19.420 That ain't bad.

00:13:20.960 Yeah.

00:13:21.160 But I mean, back to the point of the David Sachs world, like, you know, California is looking at now taxing former residents of California who flee.

00:13:29.740 Yeah.

00:13:29.960 I mean, they're not even going to let you leave at this point before they get some of the money for the reparations.

00:13:34.420 So, yeah, I feel I feel terrible for those people.

00:13:37.660 That ought to teach them.

00:13:38.500 Yeah.

00:13:39.300 I mean, you live in California.

00:13:41.240 You have to be careful with you.

00:13:42.520 So did you hear.

00:13:44.200 OK, so like on the reparations issue, it's interesting because who who pays the reparations and who doesn't?

00:13:52.020 Who who's a slave owner descendant and who is a slave descendant? 0.98

00:13:57.680 It's trickier than you might think.

00:14:00.140 I wasn't even going to cover this story today, but I did think it was kind of interesting, kind of ties into that news.

00:14:05.300 Angela Davis.

00:14:06.760 All right.

00:14:07.160 Racial activist, longtime member of the Communist Party, Black Panther.

00:14:12.120 She's one of these Marxist leftists, Black Panthers who hates America, wants CRT taught in schools. 1.00

00:14:20.660 Racism is embedded in the fabric of our country.

00:14:22.680 One of her favorite quotes was on the FBI's most wanted fugitive list.

00:14:27.700 Of course, now she's a college professor. 0.97

00:14:29.580 I'm just afraid that a central cast.

00:14:31.220 Sounds like a good college professor's resume.

00:14:32.720 She the resume hit left wing bingo there. 1.00

00:14:36.180 Totally right.

00:14:37.500 She's she's now professor at University of California, Santa Cruz.

00:14:40.760 OK, so she went on the Henry Louis Gates show, Finding Your Roots, you know, where he finds out, like, where do you come from?

00:14:49.280 Where are your ancestors?

00:14:50.440 You can't make this up.

00:14:51.400 This is so delicious.

00:14:52.200 I don't know if you guys have heard this story.

00:14:53.500 It's delicious.

00:14:54.620 She was flabbergasted, according to PBS.org, to find out that both sides of her family were white.

00:15:02.720 And her ancestors were, yes, slaves and slave owners.

00:15:08.220 And not just that, but at least one grandpa or great, great, great, great grandpa, whatever.

00:15:14.840 Was William Brewster, who was one of the 101 people on board the Mayflower.

00:15:24.960 Mayflower.

00:15:27.760 We'll fork it over, Angela.

00:15:30.380 Where's the fire?

00:15:31.080 Yes, exactly.

00:15:33.340 Oh, we have a soundbite.

00:15:34.340 Let's play a soundbite.

00:15:35.020 Here we go.

00:15:35.680 Yeah, here it is from this from the show.

00:15:37.160 Sat Naik.

00:15:38.820 Any idea what you're looking at?

00:15:41.060 That is a list of the passengers on the Mayflower.

00:15:44.580 No, I can't believe this.

00:15:46.660 No.

00:15:48.200 My ancestors did not come here on the Mayflower.

00:15:51.540 Your ancestors came on the Mayflower.

00:15:53.940 No, no, no.

00:15:54.500 You are descended from one of the 101 people who sailed on the Mayflower.

00:16:04.340 That's a little bit too much to deal with right now.

00:16:08.760 Did you ever, in your wildest dreams, think that you may have descended from people who laid 0.52

00:16:14.180 the foundation for this country?

00:16:17.280 Never, never, never, never.

00:16:21.400 Okay.

00:16:21.840 Maybe she'd like to reevaluate all of her Black Panther and her BLM protesting. 1.00

00:16:28.160 America is a terrible country. 0.97

00:16:29.840 All those racists who established it and that slave owners. 0.99

00:16:32.960 You mean your people, your people, Angela?

00:16:35.160 I mean, on the upside, that should get her country club membership to some places in 0.99

00:16:39.540 New England if you're related.

00:16:42.520 I bet she celebrates Thanksgiving a little differently, doesn't she?

00:16:48.300 I bet she doesn't change a thing.

00:16:50.780 You end up with the Mayflower.

00:16:52.240 It's like, Anne, you're a daughter of the Confederacy. 0.83

00:16:57.340 Spectacular, right?

00:16:59.020 So truly, there's no sorting any of this out.

00:17:01.800 California, nor will it try to.

00:17:03.600 But truly, she's in California, right?

00:17:06.100 You see Santa Cruz.

00:17:08.640 Does she get the money or does she pay the money? 1.00

00:17:11.240 How are we going to figure it out?

00:17:12.020 Because she's got black skin, but she's part white and she's both descended from slaves 1.00

00:17:18.280 and slave owners, though she was never like she's from California where we didn't have 0.96

00:17:22.260 slavery and Mayflower.

00:17:23.940 So does she pay or does she cash the check? 1.00

00:17:27.620 I mean, this highlights the idiocy so perfectly, doesn't it? 0.96

00:17:31.200 I mean, the idea that somebody came from the Mayflower is now somehow subjected to reparation 0.99

00:17:37.820 simply because of their worldview and also highlights basically how people like her have

00:17:43.260 used race as an organizing principle for ideological issues.

00:17:47.340 Yep.

00:17:47.700 Right.

00:17:48.980 Basically, being a communist anti-America, all of the sort of left wing Marxism that has now

00:17:54.660 come to fruition under the BLM banner is because people like this, they're just doing what

00:18:02.780 they're doing is organizing around race.

00:18:05.860 Right.

00:18:06.400 I mean, and somehow using that as a justification for their views rather than their views having

00:18:11.560 any sort of justification for the betterment of the people they claim to represent.

00:18:15.280 Right.

00:18:15.700 And it's it's I mean, it is it is an ugly past.

00:18:19.340 But boy, that shot in Freud, if you've ever seen it.

00:18:21.400 Yeah, it's perfect.

00:18:22.440 So can I tell you guys?

00:18:23.380 So my producer put this in front of me.

00:18:25.040 I'm like, what do I care about, Angela Day?

00:18:26.640 It's kind of mildly interesting.

00:18:27.780 And then I'm like, wait a minute.

00:18:29.140 She's in California.

00:18:30.520 This is the state that's about to hand out these reparations.

00:18:32.880 Everyone there.

00:18:33.300 All the left is so pro.

00:18:34.480 And it's like people like her, these radical activists who are really pushing this. 0.99

00:18:39.420 And so it just it really does put a pin in the idiocy of this entire exercise. 0.98

00:18:45.040 And these poor it's like fun for us to laugh about it because we're not there. 0.98

00:18:48.800 Thank God.

00:18:49.900 But can you imagine if you were a hardworking, you know, good faith Californian who just was

00:18:56.440 kind of stuck there because you were raised there and now you're your mom's there, your

00:19:00.620 dad's there and your kids were, you know, it's like like Adam Carolla.

00:19:03.400 Yeah, he's stuck there.

00:19:04.900 He's gonna be stuck with this lunacy.

00:19:06.320 And we need a rest.

00:19:07.260 We got to get our flowered van and go by and get him and David Sachs.

00:19:11.100 I mean, at the same time, you have to consider there needs to be justice for Mayflower descendants.

00:19:15.180 They've had a rough day.

00:19:18.980 They're landing on Plymouth Rock.

00:19:21.760 Tough deal.

00:19:22.980 They wear buckles on their hats.

00:19:26.380 Not to mention Thanksgiving.

00:19:28.000 I mean, for crying out loud.

00:19:29.300 So here's the perfect segue into why people do what they do.

00:19:34.220 People like Raquel Saraswati.

00:19:38.160 Okay.

00:19:38.460 You may not know that name.

00:19:39.620 Raquel Saraswati.

00:19:41.480 You might, you might know her as Rachel Elizabeth Seidel, which was her real name for a long,

00:19:48.040 long time until she decided she was no longer going to be white.

00:19:51.240 But this woman is, you could see her picture here. 0.99

00:19:56.720 She looks Muslim.

00:19:57.720 She has darker skin.

00:19:58.980 She's got the drawn in eyebrows with the headscarf. 1.00

00:20:02.400 She is white as the driven snow.

00:20:05.280 She's, she's whiter than I am. 0.73

00:20:07.020 She is as white as they come. 1.00

00:20:09.060 Here's the pre, here's the pre.

00:20:11.480 And in case you're thinking she looks like Italian, I don't think she's even Italian. 0.69

00:20:15.560 And in her pre transformation photos, she is British German.

00:20:21.740 She has a little Italian, they said.

00:20:23.100 Okay.

00:20:23.260 But mostly British German. 0.50

00:20:24.800 And you would never know that if you saw her resume, let's say two weeks ago before this

00:20:30.120 scandal broke.

00:20:30.700 She's the new Rachel Dolezal.

00:20:33.080 This woman, um, of course was, was the chief inclusion officer. 0.90

00:20:40.600 She's the chief DEI person at the Philadelphia Quaker founded social justice firm.

00:20:47.640 Um, it's got her on the bottom. 1.00

00:20:51.740 That's her. 0.88

00:20:52.460 The daily mail has her little girl picture.

00:20:54.380 She looks like a, kind of like a boy.

00:20:56.040 I had that same haircut.

00:20:57.100 No, no offense intended, but she's as white as they come that she's white. 1.00

00:21:01.280 She is white.

00:21:02.780 She's white as the snow on my front lawn right now. 0.86

00:21:05.420 And then she transformed herself into, um, okay, hold on.

00:21:10.260 I want to make sure I don't miss any of the, the things.

00:21:13.380 Um, okay.

00:21:15.720 Let's see.

00:21:16.940 Checking a lot of, checking a lot of boxes here.

00:21:20.100 Um, got to make sure to get this one right.

00:21:22.660 I'm going to get a letter.

00:21:24.260 All right.

00:21:25.120 Hold on.

00:21:25.500 Cause the daily mail has been all over this.

00:21:27.440 And so actually it was at the intercept that broke that first thing.

00:21:30.220 Okay.

00:21:30.820 She represented herself as multi-ethnic as a queer person of color who happens to be Muslim.

00:21:37.920 She said that she was, I think, Latina and Muslim and gay and something else. 0.80

00:21:47.140 And the only thing, it does appear she's gay. 0.91

00:21:48.880 She was in a gay marriage though. 0.51

00:21:50.340 They divorced.

00:21:51.540 Um, but this one, look at her background. 0.98

00:21:53.740 She's, she's like two steps away from me growing up.

00:21:55.940 She had basically the same upbringing I upbringing I did.

00:21:58.300 She went to the Emma Willard school in Troy, New York, which is this very Tony pricey private

00:22:03.920 school that I couldn't get into.

00:22:05.240 I went to public school, not long, not far from where she went to her fancy school, private

00:22:09.400 boarding school.

00:22:10.680 Um, she wound up living nearby in Wyndham, which isn't far away at all.

00:22:17.060 Um, she had blonde hair. 1.00

00:22:19.520 She was visibly pale.

00:22:20.920 Well, she, when she was a junior in school, in high school, decided that she might become

00:22:26.200 a Muslim because her roommate was too.

00:22:28.160 And she was, uh, she was excited by that.

00:22:30.880 And by the way, when contacted by her family, uh, they said she's chosen to live a lie.

00:22:37.440 We find it very, very sad.

00:22:38.820 We have no idea why she is doing this. 0.86

00:22:41.900 Like they've known forever, but you guys know exactly why she is doing this.

00:22:48.820 That's why she decided that being, um, Rachel was no longer good.

00:22:54.020 And she had to be Raquel.

00:22:55.980 Uh, and that, you know, Rachel Elizabeth is now Raquel Saraswati. 0.90

00:23:00.100 You know exactly why she did it because there's so much currency in being a person of color,

00:23:06.740 a minority, and she wrote it all the way to the top of this organization.

00:23:11.500 What do you make of it?

00:23:12.500 I mean, they've, the problem with the left is they've turned demographics into qualifications.

00:23:17.140 So of course you're going to end up with these frauds because it's a fraudulent system to

00:23:21.000 begin with when you're judging, you know, uh, Martin Luther King said, you shouldn't

00:23:24.240 judge people by the color of their skin, but by the character of, of who they are.

00:23:27.500 And looking at this article describing situations as Oscar Peter Castro, who helped hire

00:23:32.820 Saraswati in June, 2021 says he feels conned as her ethnicity played a role in her recruitment.

00:23:38.340 Great.

00:23:38.780 A person of color, a queer person of color who happens to be a Muslim. 0.97

00:23:41.980 It's a woman, all these things.

00:23:43.280 And someone who seemed to get it.

00:23:44.560 Those are the qualifications they were hiring on on whether someone was capable of doing

00:23:48.860 the job.

00:23:49.540 And so of course you're going to end up the same way that people on, on resumes will be

00:23:52.640 like, yeah, I'm proficient in that word, uh, Excel, even though they've only opened it

00:23:55.920 once the client, she'll be like, oh yeah, I'm a queer person of color.

00:23:59.700 Now she, now she's going to get in her car and move to California, become a millionaire. 1.00

00:24:03.040 Yeah.

00:24:03.480 I mean, it's, it's the brand new.

00:24:04.720 Just have to identify, just identify as in, in 2017.

00:24:08.720 Listen to this.

00:24:09.620 She told Philly magazine all too often progressive and well-meaning people ally with organizations

00:24:16.900 and individuals in marginalized or targeted communities without consulting those on the

00:24:23.480 margins of those communities like LGBTQ SIA people, dissidents, women, minority sex, racial

00:24:31.340 and ethnic minorities, et cetera.

00:24:32.820 Of course she's referring to herself.

00:24:34.060 She's mad that, that, you know, progressives allying with people in marginalized communities

00:24:40.000 like Latinx, whatever. 0.89

00:24:42.200 And like the Muslims are forgetting the queer Muslims and Latinx like her, which is a lie. 1.00

00:24:47.700 The whole thing is a lie. 0.99

00:24:49.140 Then on her Facebook page.

00:24:50.500 But that's what this whole DEI thing is, right?

00:24:52.720 All of it.

00:24:53.680 The whole DEI thing is really a jobs program.

00:24:56.760 That's what it is.

00:24:57.620 Well, they didn't pay the toll.

00:24:59.560 Right.

00:24:59.900 Right.

00:25:00.260 It's offending her.

00:25:01.000 Exactly.

00:25:01.520 Exactly.

00:25:01.880 I'm qualified to be, let's give me a salary.

00:25:03.760 Right.

00:25:04.440 And it's like, it's like what Smug said.

00:25:06.020 It's like when you create fake qualifications, of course, it's gonna be a magnet to people

00:25:10.300 who are fakes who want to exploit that, you know, for their own ends.

00:25:13.660 It's like, it's incredible when you're a hammer, everything's a nail.

00:25:16.640 Well, what's, what's to stop?

00:25:18.520 I mean, truly what is to stop with this racial obsession at colleges and so on?

00:25:24.680 Some kid from just being like, yeah, I'm black.

00:25:26.740 I am.

00:25:27.600 I'm in the same way.

00:25:28.860 Angela Davis didn't know she's white and descended from the Mayflower flower. 0.99

00:25:32.520 I turned out and black.

00:25:34.320 You just can't tell.

00:25:35.500 And I am descended from slaves.

00:25:37.160 So I want my money in California and I want a preferred admission at some school.

00:25:42.640 Like they don't do DNA tests.

00:25:45.720 Why wouldn't you gain this system when it's so unfair and it's so absurd?

00:25:49.860 Yeah, I mean, they would, right?

00:25:52.800 I mean, I think that's what we're seeing is that all of these people who have basically

00:25:55.580 faked their resume, fake who they are, trying to get involved in a fake profession, quite

00:26:00.800 frankly.

00:26:01.560 But there's something a little bit more sinister about this situation in that she's not only

00:26:06.720 doing it for her own identity, her own employment prospects and everything else.

00:26:10.260 But once she's there, she's also then moving this entire movement forward to try to create 0.51

00:26:16.340 new identity politics amongst whatever profession she's overseeing, right?

00:26:21.020 It becomes worse and worse and worse.

00:26:23.380 It gets more fraudulent as it goes along.

00:26:26.340 And they've created this, I don't know, I mean, what is a cottage industry at this point

00:26:30.640 in corporate America of trying to adhere to this fake set of criteria of credentialing.

00:26:37.540 Right.

00:26:37.680 And it doesn't have to stop with this news article.

00:26:39.720 It doesn't have to stop in corporate America.

00:26:41.320 She can move to Massachusetts and run for Senate and then run for president. 0.98

00:26:44.760 And, you know, then she'll be famous. 0.98

00:26:47.680 And that's even more famous.

00:26:48.760 This entire system is built upon basically white liberals trying to make themselves feel

00:26:54.780 better, making themselves so they can feel like they're saviors, like they're helping

00:26:58.720 save the planet somehow.

00:27:00.320 There's an article that NBC put out yesterday that said diversity officers hired in 2020 are losing

00:27:05.100 their jobs and the ones who remain are mostly white.

00:27:07.740 That tells you everything about what this cottage industry is focused on is it's to help white 0.99

00:27:13.100 liberals have good feelings that I'm a good person.

00:27:15.680 You know, I'm enforcing my beliefs found grounded in nothing, not facts and qualifications of whether

00:27:20.500 an individual is capable, but on a system of where we can divide and conquer.

00:27:25.420 And that's what the system is based on.

00:27:27.140 And oh, by the way, we certainly oppose school choice because we wouldn't want any of these kids

00:27:31.300 to actually get an education at all costs.

00:27:36.160 I mean, at all costs, did you speaking of the white liberals who are feel the need to

00:27:39.900 do that smug?

00:27:40.500 Did you happen to catch Sally Fields at the SAG awards the other night? 0.76

00:27:47.340 I did not.

00:27:47.820 I did not.

00:27:48.620 He's not a big SAG award.

00:27:50.360 I don't know.

00:27:51.640 No, nor am I.

00:27:53.240 I did not watch the SAG awards.

00:27:54.860 I just my my great team gives me the highlights if they think they will be interesting.

00:27:58.720 And this one was so Sally Fields gets up there. 0.98

00:28:01.320 And I think Sally Fields is like in her 80s now.

00:28:03.460 I mean, she she's like she lived a long time.

00:28:05.540 She's accomplished a lot.

00:28:06.740 That's why she got the Lifetime Achievement Award.

00:28:08.420 And this is how she chose to use her time.

00:28:11.700 I was a little white girl with a pug nose born in Pasadena, California.

00:28:16.880 And when I look around this room tonight, I know my fight.

00:28:25.400 As hard as it was, was lightweight compared to some of yours.

00:28:29.740 I thank you and I applaud you.

00:28:32.780 Get it?

00:28:35.780 Little white girls don't have real problems compared to anybody who's a person of color. 1.00

00:28:39.800 So I just let me let me make clear.

00:28:41.580 I have zero privilege arriving on this stage, irrespective of what little white girls are 1.00

00:28:46.900 going through across this country right now. 1.00

00:28:48.740 You're dirt. 0.99

00:28:49.300 You don't matter. 1.00

00:28:50.000 You have to apologize.

00:28:51.200 Whatever you accomplish, you have to make sure you subjugate yourself to random persons

00:28:55.100 of color whose background may be far more impressive than your own, by the way. 0.98

00:28:59.120 Just assuming that they're all victims who have had a shit life that they've had to overcome 1.00

00:29:03.360 is racist, Sally. 0.99

00:29:05.080 But that's where we are.

00:29:06.980 Yeah.

00:29:07.900 By the way, you got to hit the swear jar again.

00:29:11.000 You're right.

00:29:14.340 Oh, I did it again.

00:29:17.380 Yeah.

00:29:17.900 Well, I mean, it's also super cringy to watch, right?

00:29:22.160 I mean, she's standing on stage with a Lifetime Achievement Award saying, well, it really wasn't

00:29:27.800 much of anything. 0.68

00:29:28.600 It's it's you, you random black guy sitting in the front row that's having the struggle. 0.95

00:29:33.000 I mean, it's just so it's it's absurd. 0.99

00:29:35.560 It's bonkers.

00:29:37.140 It totally demeans and diminishes any person of color in the audience to try to say that

00:29:44.240 everyone here is is a victim of circumstance.

00:29:47.140 I mean, I would just be so offended.

00:29:49.640 It's just it's so patronizing.

00:29:51.380 But I think that's sort of the price of admission in the liberal society now is if you are a white 0.85

00:29:55.680 person who's had success, every speech has to begin with a struggle session about about how

00:30:01.100 you don't deserve to be there.

00:30:03.020 You know?

00:30:03.560 Yeah.

00:30:04.060 Yeah.

00:30:04.340 It's unbelievable.

00:30:04.840 Oh, it's so in vogue to put down your white skin or the fact that you're white and you 0.98

00:30:10.720 need look no further than the president of the United States who thought this was an appropriate

00:30:15.740 comment yesterday.

00:30:18.020 OK, yesterday where he was speaking to a group of black.

00:30:23.600 What was it?

00:30:26.180 They were celebrating Black History Month, I know, but I don't remember like what specific

00:30:29.940 group it was.

00:30:30.680 In any event, we'll get it.

00:30:32.080 And he's talking about the Divine Nine, by the way, which is a group of historically black

00:30:35.740 colleges.

00:30:36.900 So let's listen to how he refers to the fact that he's white. 0.96

00:30:41.180 By the way, you know, I'm not I may be a white boy, but I'm not stupid. 0.94

00:30:48.140 I know where the power is.

00:30:50.940 I know where the you think I'm joking.

00:30:52.780 I learned a long time ago about the Divine Nine. 0.95

00:30:57.780 OK, I may be white, but I'm not stupid. 0.95

00:31:00.940 What? 0.99

00:31:01.160 That's a laugh riot.

00:31:02.500 OK, yeah, I just what was the thing he said a few months ago about how he grew up as a

00:31:08.140 little was a little African-American boy or something like that line where he was like,

00:31:12.420 I grew up in a Polish community and I used to go to black churches and none of that's

00:31:15.800 been found to be true.

00:31:16.900 You know, he's had a very tenuous relationship with race in his public comments over 20 years.

00:31:24.000 I mean, it's basically the most intemperate stuff that you've ever seen.

00:31:27.900 Yeah.

00:31:28.120 Well, and then remember Corn Pop.

00:31:29.600 That's the thing.

00:31:30.200 I think Corn Pop would give this sort of like apocryphal story about the public swimming

00:31:34.220 pool.

00:31:34.700 And, you know, the kids would touch the hair on his legs.

00:31:37.500 Weirdest thing.

00:31:38.060 Yes, I think we just did this.

00:31:41.820 The I think it was the New York Post.

00:31:43.320 They did a flashback of his awkward remarks.

00:31:45.760 January 2022 told students at historically black colleges in Atlanta that he was arrested

00:31:50.460 during the civil rights protests.

00:31:52.140 That's not true.

00:31:53.620 2020 sparked an outcry when he said African-American voters ain't black if they support Donald Trump.

00:31:59.760 Months later, took heat for saying blacks were less diverse than Hispanics in terms of

00:32:03.480 political thinking before asking a black journalist if he was a junkie in the same interview in 0.88

00:32:08.500 which the reporter asked if he had taken a cognitive test.

00:32:11.200 How did I miss that?

00:32:13.940 That's a good question.

00:32:15.220 That's a very good question.

00:32:16.700 Also falsely claimed during the 2020 campaign, he had the great honor of being arrested trying

00:32:21.720 to see Nelson Mandela.

00:32:23.460 Later admitted that wasn't true and said he was thinking of being separated, being separated

00:32:28.060 during a congressional trip one time, though a Democratic colleague who was on the trip disputed

00:32:32.100 that account as well.

00:32:33.340 Biden also received criticism during the 2020 campaign when a tape surfaced from 2017 of

00:32:37.340 him reminiscing about young black children playing with his blonde leg hair, as you mentioned,

00:32:41.540 while he was a lifeguard.

00:32:42.460 Of course, who could forget in 2007 when he described Barack Obama as the first, OK, the

00:32:51.120 first sort of mainstream African-American who's articulate and bright and clean.

00:32:57.060 The very first.

00:32:58.280 Yeah, I think he said that in the Senate near a bank of elevators where all these reporters

00:33:05.820 sort of gather around.

00:33:06.840 He said it to a bunch of people at the time.

00:33:09.740 Everybody just sort of gapped.

00:33:13.140 It's amazing.

00:33:13.960 The guy notoriously puts his foot in his mouth.

00:33:16.440 It was it was also it was this would begin a long line of vice presidential runs that would 0.53

00:33:20.060 begin with the vice president calling the would be president racist.

00:33:22.600 He or actually be racist, right?

00:33:25.720 One or the other.

00:33:26.440 Go ahead.

00:33:27.020 Sorry.

00:33:28.080 Unlike any other.

00:33:30.660 What were you going to say?

00:33:33.300 Oh, man.

00:33:34.220 No, I'm just going to say, I mean, I think there's the same context he had.

00:33:37.240 He was at an Indian American sort of group and said that he related to everybody very well

00:33:43.860 because of the 7-Elevens in his community.

00:33:46.020 I remember.

00:33:46.460 Remember that?

00:33:47.140 I mean, it is unreal.

00:33:48.080 It's like you can't go into a 7-Eleven without seeing an Indian there.

00:33:50.420 It's like, who the hell is this guy who invited him? 0.80

00:33:54.200 Reparations.

00:33:56.620 Reparations.

00:33:57.100 All right.

00:33:57.460 We're going to take a quick break.

00:33:58.480 And when we come back, I am going to play a clip for you showing some drama over at the

00:34:04.580 Today Show this morning.

00:34:07.460 Stuff's brewing over there.

00:34:09.100 We'll get into it in two minutes.

00:34:10.680 Stand by.

00:34:11.120 The guys from Ruthless stay with us for the show.

00:34:13.960 So, guys, drama over at the Today Show where there's something going on with Hoda.

00:34:24.040 We don't know what's going on with Hoda.

00:34:25.460 I hope she's okay.

00:34:26.940 But she has been off the air, offset, without explanation for, by my count, going on.

00:34:32.900 Today's the seventh day.

00:34:34.440 The last day was Friday, February.

00:34:36.440 I think it was 17th.

00:34:37.340 So, she missed an entire week.

00:34:38.920 And then she missed two more days.

00:34:40.760 And instead of saying she's on vacation or she's on whatever, they just say, Hoda's out

00:34:45.880 today.

00:34:46.360 Hoda's out today.

00:34:47.140 She's out today.

00:34:48.100 And she's posting kind of cryptic posts from her Instagram, like about dark clouds, but

00:34:52.060 like finding the rainbow or what.

00:34:53.540 So, I don't know what's happening there.

00:34:55.080 But it's very unusual for them not to say what the person's doing when they're not in the

00:34:59.340 anchor desk.

00:34:59.800 Um, Savannah, meantime, is co-hosting the show, uh, as normal.

00:35:06.140 She goes out there today at seven, at seven 30, she leaves the set, doesn't come back the

00:35:13.860 entire show.

00:35:14.840 Well, surely thereafter, according to what I read online around, I don't know, a while

00:35:19.380 after Savannah left, they explained what happened on this clip for the listening audience.

00:35:26.100 Um, you've got her co-anchor, um, who was it trying to remember who that, who was it?

00:35:34.000 Uh, whatever.

00:35:34.520 We'll watch it.

00:35:35.420 But what you need to know, for those of you who can't see it is Al Roker's on screen left

00:35:39.380 easing off the screen.

00:35:40.700 He's trying to get himself off screen as you hear the other anchors talking.

00:35:45.120 Listen, it has been an interesting morning for us.

00:35:49.180 As we said, Savannah left early.

00:35:50.560 She wasn't feeling great.

00:35:51.500 So she took a COVID test.

00:35:53.200 It came back positive.

00:35:54.380 So of course, as soon as we found out, she rushed home to rest up.

00:35:57.640 So Savannah, we love you.

00:35:59.040 Wishing you a speedy.

00:36:00.100 Well, Chanel was sitting between me and, uh, do you believe they're, they're like canceling

00:36:12.600 her anchor.

00:36:13.440 She's running home from the set COVID.

00:36:16.340 I mean, at this point, seriously.

00:36:19.480 They're getting pretty low on the depth chart.

00:36:21.620 I mean, we're going to come back from commercial break and Matt Lauer is going to be back.

00:36:29.780 Like, is anyone still even testing for COVID?

00:36:33.840 I love that Al Roker is disappearing like the Homer Simpson meme into the head.

00:36:38.960 And the cameraman didn't know, does he want me to follow him?

00:36:41.660 What's going on?

00:36:42.720 He's left a little.

00:36:43.660 He's like, this guy's just trying to dip out.

00:36:45.100 Like, I'm pretty sure if you get COVID, like if Chanel got COVID from Savannah this morning,

00:36:51.500 you're not able to then transmit the COVID within two seconds of inhaling the COVID from

00:36:56.680 the first person.

00:36:57.620 Pretty sure.

00:36:58.980 And someone's going to have to fact check me on that.

00:37:01.300 But I mean, it's amazing to me.

00:37:03.000 These guys are leftists.

00:37:03.940 And it's amazing to me to see how the leftists still live, like under the grip of COVID,

00:37:08.340 terrified.

00:37:09.260 She's got to leave the set immediately, even to even to say, like, I'm going to take the

00:37:12.340 COVID test.

00:37:13.200 Who?

00:37:13.500 I don't I don't test for COVID anymore.

00:37:15.600 Who's testing for COVID stuff?

00:37:17.500 I mean, I think I think Roker kind of had a good move because he knows that if he catches

00:37:22.020 it, they're going to have to jab him again.

00:37:24.020 He's going to have to tweet out.

00:37:25.540 Yes, I have COVID.

00:37:26.340 However, I am grateful that there's a safe and effective vaccine in the market.

00:37:30.880 He doesn't go through that.

00:37:33.360 My life and millions of others.

00:37:35.900 Yeah.

00:37:36.240 Well, by the way, this is reportedly Savannah's third bout of COVID.

00:37:40.900 And I guarantee you she's had all the vaccines and the boosters because you won't be able

00:37:44.440 to go into 30 Rock without them.

00:37:46.440 There's zero chance NBC is not requiring all the boosters.

00:37:49.120 And this is the third bout of COVID.

00:37:51.060 I mean, all of it is just such a perfect indication of how the left and especially the left in New

00:37:55.580 York continues to live.

00:37:58.160 I'm also a little bit curious if that was the first time Roker knew what was up.

00:38:02.000 No, right.

00:38:03.000 But they're like, they just told the anchor that like, this is the announcement we have

00:38:06.700 to make.

00:38:07.020 And they're like, hey, by the way, he's got COVID.

00:38:08.960 He's like, oh, boy.

00:38:11.540 But back to Megan's point, like the thing that's most amazing to me in that is like, you know,

00:38:18.480 we've been over three years into this now and Roker still has no idea how the transmission

00:38:24.320 of this virus works.

00:38:25.660 Like nobody's coughing in your face, dude.

00:38:27.460 Like you're going to be OK.

00:38:29.000 But their inclination, their knee jerk reaction all these years later is still like, oh, my 0.99

00:38:33.600 God, burn the witch. 1.00

00:38:34.480 She has COVID. 1.00

00:38:35.100 I want to know details of what happened.

00:38:36.980 Did they have a hazmat team go in, cover Savannah and like plastic wrap and airlift her 0.99

00:38:40.600 out of there?

00:38:41.180 Like the way that they're just terrified.

00:38:44.140 Just give a bath of Purell and send her on her way. 1.00

00:38:46.760 In fairness, Megan, Michael does not have the most sensitivity towards this sort of thing.

00:38:51.340 It's zero.

00:38:51.800 He could have COVID all the time and think that it's totally appropriate to go to a stadium

00:38:56.740 event.

00:38:58.220 I'm with him.

00:38:59.560 I'm just trying to share my natural immunity.

00:39:02.340 OK.

00:39:02.800 Yes.

00:39:03.120 Well, we all have it.

00:39:06.720 And I like I got dollars to donuts that Roker's there and an N95 tomorrow all day on set.

00:39:12.920 He's going to take me on.

00:39:14.480 No way is he showing up without the N95 tomorrow.

00:39:17.620 If he shows up at all.

00:39:18.880 Right.

00:39:19.100 I mean, there's got to be a quarantine process, as we all know.

00:39:21.860 Ten days if you're exposed.

00:39:23.520 We're going to get.

00:39:24.080 That's right.

00:39:24.300 It doesn't matter what the CDC says of cloudy like skies, rainbows like that's going to come

00:39:29.580 a new thing.

00:39:32.280 Not the weather, folks.

00:39:33.380 You just got to look for the bright line.

00:39:35.300 Now, speaking of media news over at CNN, we get an announcement that they're they're unable

00:39:42.480 to fill the very big shoes of Chris Cuomo.

00:39:46.180 The void left by Chris Cuomo was just two big guys and they have ceased in their effort

00:39:52.320 to replace him.

00:39:54.100 As far as I know, the Don Lemon spot is still open as well, even though it was definitely

00:39:58.540 100 percent of promotion when they pulled him from that job and put him on the morning

00:40:02.220 show with co-anchors.

00:40:03.560 OK, it was 100 percent.

00:40:05.720 So now they really are.

00:40:08.380 Originally, it was reported maybe they were going to do variety programming like debt to

00:40:12.440 that.

00:40:13.620 We like a good variety program.

00:40:16.220 We like totally stealing your act, stealing the ruthless program act.

00:40:21.320 And now it's they're just going instead of having an anchor be the star, they're going

00:40:27.140 to have the news be the star and they're going to do a series of town halls, which I will tell

00:40:34.640 you right now won't work.

00:40:37.320 They should start calling me.

00:40:38.400 I'll give that some advice for free.

00:40:40.080 That's not going to work.

00:40:41.180 Chris Licht.

00:40:41.680 You should call me.

00:40:43.380 No, I don't want to join CNN, but I got all sorts of ideas for you.

00:40:46.920 First of all, develop a bench. 0.96

00:40:49.680 Get some sort of rising fucking talent who you could put into the main job. 0.98

00:40:54.480 Where are you? 0.99

00:40:55.380 Sorry.

00:40:58.980 Is that your buzzer?

00:41:01.340 That's your buzzer.

00:41:02.800 I think we've inspired your team with the buzzer.

00:41:06.120 Yeah.

00:41:06.540 Yeah.

00:41:06.760 I've never heard the buzzer.

00:41:11.660 Anyway, there's no bench.

00:41:13.640 He has no stars.

00:41:15.200 And they're wrong.

00:41:16.440 The news.

00:41:17.640 Yes.

00:41:17.940 OK.

00:41:18.160 During the Trump era, the news could lead could lead every night.

00:41:21.340 The news would draw people in.

00:41:22.440 But the reality is, as you guys know, in especially during the lean Biden years, the news isn't

00:41:28.880 that exciting every day. 1.00

00:41:30.160 You cannot rely on a stupid town hall to make people tune in every night. 1.00

00:41:35.040 This guy. 1.00

00:41:35.540 I'm sorry.

00:41:35.900 He's a nice guy like Chris Lick, but he's failing so far.

00:41:39.560 Well, then the news, the news could be exciting if they decided to cover it.

00:41:43.120 You know, if they decided to hold the Biden administration accountable, the news would actually

00:41:47.280 be very exciting.

00:41:48.340 But they view the Biden administration as their bench.

00:41:52.240 Jen Psaki got her job at MSNBC. 1.00

00:41:54.680 Now, Kareem Jean-Pierre is just waiting for her spot to to in CNN primetime.

00:42:01.360 Maybe she's going to lead the lead the variety show. 1.00

00:42:03.680 Smash bringing out the mallet today.

00:42:06.620 Huh?

00:42:07.540 But I agree with you, Megan.

00:42:08.900 I think this will be as interesting as the call in line on C-SPAN.

00:42:12.040 You know, it's just not going to work.

00:42:14.180 It's just not going to work.

00:42:15.320 That's unpredictable.

00:42:16.940 If nobody actually is watching, do you actually have a vacancy?

00:42:20.460 I mean, how many people they have watching primetime CNN?

00:42:23.780 No, I don't know.

00:42:24.780 It's an existential grand.

00:42:26.460 It might be.

00:42:26.960 Well, there was there was.

00:42:28.140 Yeah, no, it's it's way, way fewer than watch the program or this program.

00:42:33.300 So they there was one report that he's really trying to get Gail King because, you know,

00:42:39.220 keep in mind, Chris Lick, who runs CNN now, used to do the CBS morning show with Gail King.

00:42:44.940 And with all due respect to Gail, Gail hasn't solo anchored a program and put numbers on the

00:42:51.520 board.

00:42:51.680 She was put in an ensemble cast in that morning show.

00:42:55.620 And it did OK.

00:42:56.580 That doesn't mean she can do CNN primetime and get a number.

00:42:59.660 It does not mean that.

00:43:01.400 And there's actually a report that he's also trying to get Charles Barkley to go over.

00:43:08.520 Now, he's interesting.

00:43:10.100 He's actually kind of interesting.

00:43:11.680 I might watch that.

00:43:12.500 Yeah, very funny.

00:43:13.100 I was going to say, I put more money on that than I would on Gail solo anchoring a primetime

00:43:16.860 show on CNN.

00:43:17.440 But the problem is that CNN's audience has fled.

00:43:22.100 And now you're seeing the rearranging of the deck chairs on on the boat as it goes down.

00:43:27.160 Yeah.

00:43:28.360 A hundred percent.

00:43:29.500 I mean, it's it's it was a tough product.

00:43:32.580 I mean, this is all back to Zucker.

00:43:34.040 Right.

00:43:34.340 I mean, he basically recreated the entire network to make it an opinion show with sub subpar talent.

00:43:41.280 You know, Chris Cuomo.

00:43:42.280 I mean, imagine thinking in your head that that that we've lost it all.

00:43:46.600 Yeah.

00:43:46.740 Like he's like he's our franchise player.

00:43:48.620 But but to your point, they've done it to themselves over a period of years where they just lied

00:43:53.860 to their audience and took their audience for granted day after day after day, little

00:43:57.700 by little people leave and they're not coming back.

00:44:00.320 You can put Charles Barkley on.

00:44:01.580 The guy is very funny.

00:44:02.720 He's got he's got interesting set of politics.

00:44:04.800 I think he would bring a breath of fresh air to the to their nighttime lineup.

00:44:09.360 But you could you could you could do all the song and dance routines that you want.

00:44:12.900 People who were lied to over and over and over again are not interested in being lied to again.

00:44:17.360 Mm hmm.

00:44:18.640 Ashbrook, that's so true.

00:44:19.640 And that brings me to Stephen Colbert.

00:44:21.360 You guys saw the report, of course, yesterday, Department of Energy now and not just the

00:44:25.860 Department of Energy, but like this super stealthy group within the Department of Energy

00:44:29.460 that's an expert on labs was tasked specifically with taking a look at whether this was a lab

00:44:34.200 leak that started covid or something of natural origin and came out.

00:44:37.960 They said, all right, low confidence on it, but it was a lab leak.

00:44:41.320 It was a lab leak.

00:44:42.320 And this follows the FBI saying it was a lab leak, moderate confidence.

00:44:45.480 And it also follows in-depth investigations by, you know, folks like ProPublica and and

00:44:50.800 the House Republicans who got all the Fauci emails with a virologist saying lab leak, lab leak,

00:44:54.920 lab leak until they got browbeaten by Fauci and Collins.

00:44:57.280 And then in 24 hours, did a 180.

00:44:59.980 So here's Stephen Colbert grappling with that news.

00:45:04.500 Now, if, like me, you're wondering why the Department of Energy is the one making this

00:45:10.880 judgment, it's because that agency oversees a network of U.S. national laboratories, some

00:45:15.980 of which conduct advanced biological research.

00:45:19.480 No, no bad energy department.

00:45:23.140 No bio labs until you finish building your electric car charging stations.

00:45:27.140 You don't see you don't see you don't see you don't see the Census Bureau building nukes.

00:45:39.500 But whatever.

00:45:40.660 Who am I to say they're the energy department?

00:45:42.560 I'm sure they're smart.

00:45:44.040 They wouldn't release these findings unless they were absolutely confident.

00:45:47.840 What's that?

00:45:48.160 They made their judgment with low confidence.

00:45:55.200 I mean, there's no I don't I miss the apology for all the misleading he did.

00:45:59.700 I mean, that's the dedication to dogma.

00:46:01.480 It's a religion for them.

00:46:02.800 They can't give up the fact that they lied to people.

00:46:05.660 They didn't let the truth get out.

00:46:07.520 They silenced and harassed people who tried to talk about the truth.

00:46:10.860 They just can't cope with that.

00:46:12.440 Yeah.

00:46:12.560 And they try to make a joke about it.

00:46:13.940 And it falls flat.

00:46:14.820 Colbert used to be very, very funny.

00:46:16.380 His material is getting old and it's just not a dumb, you know, I mean, it's just completely 0.99

00:46:21.040 ridiculous. 0.95

00:46:22.040 But, you know, Chris Ligt also produced Colbert. 0.95

00:46:24.180 So I'm just to continue.

00:46:25.380 I didn't know that.

00:46:26.440 Didn't know that either.

00:46:27.360 He did.

00:46:27.820 But the absurdity of this, Megan, is that they find it impossible to believe that the Department

00:46:34.080 of Energy has come to a conclusion here.

00:46:35.700 Yet they are very, very well convinced that pangolin bat soup is the thing that took over 1.00

00:46:42.120 the world.

00:46:42.780 Right.

00:46:43.100 I mean, this is.

00:46:44.240 Oh, I just don't even know where to begin.

00:46:46.800 But it shows you their dishonesty, right?

00:46:49.000 Like I've said this before, but you can tell when somebody is just making an honest mistake

00:46:53.220 or has a dishonest ideological agenda by whether they correct their mistakes, whether they own

00:46:57.840 them and evolve as new information comes.

00:47:00.140 No, they don't.

00:47:01.300 He won't.

00:47:01.960 He'll just keep mocking it.

00:47:03.340 I don't know what it would take for people like Stephen Colbert to actually admit if this

00:47:07.200 thing looks like it came from a lab.

00:47:08.540 He's the one who had Jon Stewart on who said it's sort of like when the chocolate comes out

00:47:12.700 of Hershey, Pennsylvania, with all the chocolatey goodness, you kind of know where it originated.

00:47:16.820 But still, even from his friend, can't hear it.

00:47:20.700 And that is why his audience is gone, too. 0.95

00:47:24.740 Yeah, it's ridiculous.

00:47:25.720 The New York Times owes us a war type headline that says, I'm sorry.

00:47:29.260 Yeah.

00:47:29.620 That's what I want to see.

00:47:32.260 I won't be satisfied because people, you know, the Fauci lied.

00:47:35.080 People died.

00:47:35.800 That thing's real.

00:47:36.700 All right.

00:47:36.820 Let me pause you there.

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00:48:01.120 OK.

00:48:01.620 Oh, and by the way, when you're on the YouTube and check out the shorts, those are a big

00:48:05.620 hit, including with my mom, Linda, who says, I love the shorties, which is close, but not

00:48:12.020 exact, mom.

00:48:17.500 All right, let's talk politics, guys.

00:48:19.240 This is your bread and butter.

00:48:20.180 And John Fetterman, you may have heard, is seeking the help he so desperately needed in

00:48:24.880 getting his depression worked on inpatient care at a hospital.

00:48:30.940 So this is serious stuff for we have no idea how long.

00:48:35.300 And I don't know about you guys, but if this were happening to my husband, who had just had

00:48:41.120 a serious stroke within the past year and now my husband's back in the hospital for the second

00:48:46.780 time in a month because Fetterman had to return to the hospital before the depression for stroke

00:48:51.560 complications of some sort, I'd be right there.

00:48:54.860 I would be with him.

00:48:56.680 I would be at least swinging by every day.

00:48:58.760 Maybe I'd be bringing him his favorite candy or just holding his hand.

00:49:04.040 Well, you're not if you're Giselle Fetterman.

00:49:07.520 Duncan, I saw you having a particularly interesting reaction to this online.

00:49:12.460 Just so the audience knows, Giselle Fetterman has decided to not go to the hospital, but go

00:49:20.100 to Canada.

00:49:21.140 She has taken her children.

00:49:22.280 She has gone to Canada and she is posting pictures and videos of them ziplining over

00:49:29.960 Niagara Falls.

00:49:31.920 Niagara Falls.

00:49:33.300 Wait, we have a soundbite of it?

00:49:34.540 We pulled a soundbite?

00:49:35.700 That's even better.

00:49:36.920 Let's watch.

00:49:39.120 One ziplining over the falls in August.

00:49:43.020 I'm stunned.

00:49:45.360 They're trying to rescue him now.

00:49:48.640 Good times.

00:49:49.880 So fun.

00:49:51.160 John who?

00:49:52.280 I mean, this is such a pattern that you see with her where, I mean, it almost became

00:49:57.620 a running joke of every photo that she would take with Fetterman was a selfie of herself

00:50:03.080 and then maybe a little bit of Fetterman's head in the photo.

00:50:05.860 Okay, we're doing great.

00:50:07.100 And like whose first instinct when their husband is admitted to a hospital is round up the kids,

00:50:13.820 get the passports, leave the country. 0.90

00:50:15.500 And then says, you know, I want my privacy respected.

00:50:18.860 Here's selfies of us going over Niagara.

00:50:20.700 Right, right.

00:50:21.040 See, that's that's the thing.

00:50:23.160 It's one thing to abscond with your children while your husband's battling depression inpatient in the hospital,

00:50:28.840 but then to document the whole thing on social media and clout chase off the fact that your husband,

00:50:34.340 who had a stroke, who had to be admitted for chest pains or whatever, and then back for clinical depression.

00:50:39.500 And you're at Niagara Falls.

00:50:41.080 It's absolutely incredible.

00:50:41.960 And I think the comment I made on Twitter, and I'm not a lawyer here, Megan, so, you know, let me know if this is possible.

00:50:46.720 But any good prenup, I would think this sort of behavior would annul the marriage.

00:50:50.420 At least if I had a prenup, this would definitely be in there ironclad.

00:50:54.360 Because if you're not with me in the hospital holding my hand after I've had a stroke or something like that, it's gone.

00:50:59.200 It's over.

00:50:59.600 You're definitely out of the will, right?

00:51:01.720 You are out of the will.

00:51:02.700 You left the country.

00:51:04.120 Death or Niagara Falls could do us part, right?

00:51:06.340 That's what it's official legal word is.

00:51:08.520 Like she literally left the country.

00:51:10.700 You're right.

00:51:11.140 It's the thing that it looks like a pattern because he was suffering very clearly in the aftermath of that stroke.

00:51:16.240 And this woman seemed to be power hungry. 1.00

00:51:19.220 She seemed to be dragging him across the finish line along with these other Dems who were going to get that seat come hell or high water. 1.00

00:51:26.260 And now they have the nerve to talk about the Republicans as though they're being really cruel about this whole Fetterman thing.

00:51:33.340 Like they're being really heartless in even raising any questions at all about his mental health or his health in general.

00:51:38.780 And it's like I was reading this thinking the Republicans are being cruel.

00:51:41.980 First of all, the Republicans are not mocking Fetterman for having had a stroke or having depression.

00:51:46.240 They're wondering whether he was properly elected, whether he should have been dragged across the finish line, or whether this is just a pack of vultures around him.

00:51:55.360 And you've got instead the Democrats looking at the Republicans like, how could you?

00:52:00.620 How dare you?

00:52:01.900 What Democrats always gloss over is the fact that they had plenty of time to find another Democrat to run for Senate in Pennsylvania.

00:52:09.920 It didn't have to be him.

00:52:10.960 They could have taken better care of him, and they could have put somebody else up for that very, very stressful experience between the summer and the fall.

00:52:20.020 And the truth is they probably wanted to, right?

00:52:22.020 I mean, there was no public reports that would indicate that.

00:52:24.520 But they actually recruited a challenger to Fetterman who they thought was, as a sitting congressman, Conor Lamb, a much more formidable candidate against Oz or whomever than Fetterman himself.

00:52:37.660 And so I'm certain the conversation was had, which makes all of this so much worse, right? 0.98

00:52:43.440 Because you expect, at some level, the Democratic Party and Chuck Schumer and all those folks to be soulless, completely power-hungry idiots without the best interest of John Fetterman in mind. 0.97

00:52:53.800 What you do not expect is that John Fetterman's wife would be down for the ride, which she clearly was throughout. 0.98

00:53:00.820 And now you see this post-election, after everybody had assured us that he's totally fine, and he's wandering the halls of the Senate, I mean, literally incoherent.

00:53:10.540 Reporters can't ask him questions.

00:53:11.860 He can't go to committee hearings.

00:53:13.240 They're trying to figure out ways for him to be able to read and follow along.

00:53:16.820 But there's no clear indication that that's even true.

00:53:19.360 And that's, I mean, I think this is conjecture, but I assume him grappling with his own limitations, many of which could possibly be permanent, is where this clinical depression comes into play.

00:53:29.940 Because, like, when you have a stroke, there is a six-month window where you can get back from cognitive function and ability.

00:53:37.240 After six months, if you read any medical journal or anything, after six months, it gets much, much, much more difficult.

00:53:42.320 After six months is pretty much where you're going to shake out, back with your cognitive function.

00:53:47.320 And so I think he has to wrestle with the fact that he could have ruined his chances to gain back more function by continuing on with this very stressful job of running for the United States Senate.

00:53:59.200 And maybe his wife had something to do with that. 0.98

00:54:00.860 I don't know.

00:54:01.640 But, I mean, it makes you just feel shitty about the whole thing.

00:54:04.460 And the way the media portrays it, like, folks like Kara Swisher say that this is no different than someone needing eyeglasses.

00:54:11.380 Oh, yeah.

00:54:11.780 He's not facing any kind of a setback that, you know, in six months he'll be completely normal.

00:54:15.560 And what he has, like, because during the debate, which, I mean, I think that debate told you everything about what the condition was like and, like, how outlandish it is to force this guy to continue running.

00:54:28.000 Journalists said that, oh, this is completely normal.

00:54:30.080 He's being given, you know, special allowments.

00:54:32.400 Like, he can read what is being said during the debate.

00:54:35.700 It's no different than if you needed glasses or a hearing aid.

00:54:38.280 We're seeing that it is quite different.

00:54:40.500 Right.

00:54:40.680 Quite different.

00:54:41.220 They may have permanently mentally crippled this man to win a Senate race.

00:54:44.900 That's what that's.

00:54:45.580 I mean, that's like psychotic behavior.

00:54:48.020 Like what led us into all of this?

00:54:49.880 I expect that from Chuck Schumer.

00:54:51.840 Yeah.

00:54:52.040 I expect that from the leaders of the Democratic Party.

00:54:55.500 What blows my mind is that you've got this lady who claims to be, you know, in love with this guy who's been along for the ride the whole way.

00:55:03.160 And then the moment he checks himself into Walter Reed, which, by the way, if you're checking in inpatient for depression, a very serious thing is going on here.

00:55:10.960 Right.

00:55:11.480 And she is all of a sudden taken to Canada, go ziplining with the kids.

00:55:15.400 Like, look, I understand as a mom, as a parent, you have an obligation to try to keep your kids mentally and and, you know, prepared for what's happening to their father.

00:55:25.160 I get that.

00:55:26.240 But then selfies and doing the Instagram and all of that.

00:55:30.960 And by the way, they're in Pennsylvania.

00:55:33.260 Pennsylvania's got like the greatest water parks on earth.

00:55:36.460 Like go over to Kalahari.

00:55:38.600 Do do some fun ziplining there, which you can do some skiing.

00:55:41.500 It's actually an amazing resort.

00:55:42.880 You can ski.

00:55:43.640 You can zipline.

00:55:44.400 You can do water park water rides.

00:55:46.380 Second to none.

00:55:47.140 I love Kalahari.

00:55:47.980 I do not care about the feces in the pool.

00:55:50.420 It's not a Kalahari thing.

00:55:51.420 It's a water park thing.

00:55:53.420 Anyway.

00:55:53.820 I mean, they ask Giselle, like, your husband's just been admitted to Walter Reed.

00:56:00.460 What are you going to do next?

00:56:01.180 And she says, I'm going to Disney.

00:56:02.860 That's not the typical response.

00:56:05.440 Right.

00:56:05.660 It's like, why remove your children?

00:56:07.960 Like anybody who's sad, any parent who's sad, you know, what makes you happier?

00:56:11.540 Your children.

00:56:12.420 Like just getting a glimpse of your children or your lover, your loved one, you know, your sweetheart.

00:56:17.100 You know, if I ever have a stroke or if I'm in the hospital for severe depression, bring my sweetheart by.

00:56:22.240 Let me sit with Doug for a little while.

00:56:24.160 He'll know exactly what to do.

00:56:25.440 You put on a little My Cousin Vinny or you put on Overboard or you put on Wonka, whatever.

00:56:31.480 One hour of that stuff.

00:56:32.640 I already feel better.

00:56:34.360 Not Giselle Fetterman off of the zipline. 0.95

00:56:36.440 And so funny.

00:56:37.160 While I complain about the media being in my driveway, I'm going to post my Instagram selfies of not just me, but my children, too.

00:56:42.900 And this, as Dick Durbin, he's the one who said it, he comes out with the hold on.

00:56:48.960 Let me find it.

00:56:49.600 Oh, I really wish his critics would show a little bit of humanity as if the Republicans are out there like, ha ha ha, he's depressed.

00:56:57.180 That's not what's happening.

00:56:58.080 No, in fact, it's incredibly sad.

00:57:01.280 I mean, they're the ones that put him in this position.

00:57:04.560 Like, I don't understand it.

00:57:05.620 You have no introspection whatsoever about taking a man who is basically fighting for his life during the course of a campaign, knowing that you were talking about like a six month window for him to actually recover, putting him in probably the most stressful environment that you can have as a professional in this country.

00:57:21.980 And then coming out the back end in a bad spot, being checked in and all these guys are like, oh, he's a Republican.

00:57:28.020 How the hell do you make that a partisan issue?

00:57:29.860 No, that's the thing.

00:57:30.340 It's like so much of the left wing now is just emotional blackmail. 0.94

00:57:33.980 If you don't do what we say, you are cruel or a racist, heartless.

00:57:39.060 So they did this whole charade during the campaign where they said, if you ask any questions of whether this man is fit to serve, you're cruel. 0.99

00:57:46.600 You're a bad person.

00:57:47.940 You're not allowed to ask that question. 0.87

00:57:49.460 Voters, people of Pennsylvania, Americans, you're not allowed to ask those questions.

00:57:52.940 Now we're seeing the results of the same playbook.

00:57:56.160 They're like, you're not allowed to question him.

00:57:57.920 This is very cruel.

00:57:59.300 There's something about Niagara Falls that makes the truth come out.

00:58:02.360 Like you can ask those questions from the falls while on a zip line.

00:58:05.740 Well, I can't.

00:58:06.540 We'll get the rules straight by the end of his his time, hopefully in the hospital.

00:58:10.760 OK, let's talk about while we're on the subject of Dems, Dems in 2024, because so far we believe Joe Biden is going to run again.

00:58:19.180 But it hasn't been confirmed.

00:58:20.460 Originally, they said he was going to announce in February.

00:58:22.200 Well, it's the last day of February and we don't have an announcement now.

00:58:26.300 They say maybe more like April.

00:58:27.820 But we do have Marianne Williamson, Marianne Williamson, who has announced she is going to challenge Joe Biden for the nomination.

00:58:36.200 Marianne Williamson is a self-help guru who was Oprah's guru.

00:58:40.280 And she came on this show not long ago.

00:58:42.980 I don't know, sometime in the last year or so.

00:58:44.740 And I thought she was very interesting.

00:58:46.280 I remember her from the Dem debates and she was all about love.

00:58:48.740 I'm like, I like love.

00:58:50.060 I'm in favor of love.

00:58:51.260 Right.

00:58:51.440 She would be kind of critical of her party elders.

00:58:54.520 And I like that, too.

00:58:55.300 And she was kind of fascinating.

00:58:56.520 And then we started to peel back some of the layers of that onion and things got slightly less pleasant.

00:59:02.800 Here's a little sampling.

00:59:04.180 How does Brett Kavanaugh ever have have a beer with, you know, the people who accused him of gang rape with zero evidence?

00:59:11.080 It's so hard.

00:59:12.560 And I know you believe he should.

00:59:15.700 Well, you know, the other side would say, how does, how does Ketanji Jackson Brown, Brown Jackson ever have nice comments to say about Cruz and Hawley and Graham and Blackburn?

00:59:26.680 They asked her about her policy positions.

00:59:28.080 So it's both sides.

00:59:29.300 They asked her about her policy positions.

00:59:30.360 That's not, you cannot compare that to Justice Kavanaugh at all, Marianne.

00:59:33.580 That's not, that is not a fair comparison.

00:59:35.320 My point is that you and I, you know, we have to do it like right here.

00:59:40.620 Okay.

00:59:40.920 Like right here.

00:59:42.340 So I.

00:59:43.580 Marianne, we're having a debate.

00:59:45.100 You drew a false equivalency.

00:59:46.960 This isn't a friendship.

00:59:48.320 This is an interview.

00:59:49.900 And I'm challenging you on your false equivalency.

00:59:53.740 My false equivalency.

00:59:54.580 So tell me where my false equivalency is right now. 0.97

00:59:56.700 That asking Ketanji Brown Jackson about her rulings on people who look at child porn is in some way comparable to calling Brett Kavanaugh a gang rapist.

01:00:09.060 You cannot put those two things even close to in the same category.

01:00:13.860 The way I'm talking about the tone with which she was spoken to.

01:00:18.040 Oh, it's the tone.

01:00:19.680 Oh, the tone.

01:00:21.240 Oh, now we got it.

01:00:23.620 Emotional blackmail.

01:00:24.440 Episode 288.

01:00:25.380 Episode 288 if you want it.

01:00:26.660 But do you believe that?

01:00:27.600 Like, love, love, love, love, love.

01:00:29.720 Except if you're going to challenge me, then you can F off.

01:00:32.520 That was an incredible exchange.

01:00:35.740 And, you know, kudos for holding her to account for such an insane.

01:00:38.960 Yeah.

01:00:39.080 You had an extra cup of coffee going on that one.

01:00:41.680 That was nice.

01:00:42.880 It was my glasses.

01:00:44.080 My powerful glasses.

01:00:45.260 It was right before my LASIK.

01:00:46.340 I mean, what was done to Brett Kavanaugh is horrific.

01:00:51.000 You know, that moment of seeing his wife in tears behind him during a moment, which is something that he'd worked so hard an entire life to accomplish with her help, with her at his side.

01:01:01.800 Something that they've accomplished together.

01:01:04.060 And it was turned into an insane circus using that lawyer who Stormy Daniel's lawyer, Michael Avenatti, who's currently in prison, was completely destroyed by the handwaves past all that, though.

01:01:21.040 That is complete lunacy.

01:01:22.580 Like, we need to watch this because I do think there will be some Republicans and some independents who start embracing Marianne and her message again.

01:01:30.940 Like, love.

01:01:31.960 Yeah, she's a more reasonable Democrat. 1.00

01:01:33.220 She criticizes Biden.

01:01:34.280 She criticizes the establishment.

01:01:36.040 Ladies and gentlemen, that's what you're dealing with.

01:01:38.520 You're dealing with somebody who thinks it's the same thing when Ketanji Brown Jackson gets pressed on the wisdom of her rulings from the bench, in particular on child porn issue, that that's the same indignation and hostile treatment as Brett Kavanaugh got.

01:01:55.420 Okay.

01:01:56.320 I mean, that's.

01:01:57.880 Okay.

01:01:58.400 Well, you know, I mean, she's a Democrat.

01:02:00.940 Right.

01:02:01.480 I mean, this is it kind of goes with what we've been talking about all along.

01:02:05.200 Yeah.

01:02:05.360 And it's not it's not just on on issues like Brett Kavanaugh.

01:02:08.440 I feel like this is the price admission into the modern Democratic Party.

01:02:12.360 I mean, you go go go back to the issue of like election reform, trying to strengthen the security around elections like, you know, Brian Kemp in Georgia.

01:02:21.320 And, you know, or, you know, a reasonable reform that a Republican might make would be like, you know, you have to show a driver's license.

01:02:28.420 You know, if you'd like to vote, you got to prove who you are.

01:02:30.460 That is super racist.

01:02:31.380 Or maybe people shouldn't be able to campaign, you know, next to a polling location.

01:02:36.440 They got to be 100 yards off and they can't be handing out swag.

01:02:38.920 And the response from Joe Biden is that is Jim Crow.

01:02:43.380 Yeah. 1.00

01:02:43.820 You are a racist. 0.99

01:02:45.600 And so how do you have a rational argument with people who think those are equivalent things? 0.98

01:02:50.300 Right.

01:02:50.560 Like it's just it's just the modern left as it exists today.

01:02:53.860 It doesn't matter where it's Marianne Williamson, Joe Biden.

01:02:56.480 And it's real zero to 60, too.

01:02:58.280 It's not like just that's bad.

01:02:59.920 They really believe if they get there first, then they win.

01:03:02.140 I look forward to them trying this on the national stage, really, like, I mean, any moderator, debate moderator worth his or her salt who doesn't call out nonsense like that should be fired on the spot.

01:03:12.580 But we'll see.

01:03:13.280 And speaking of debates, interesting news on the Republican side, too.

01:03:16.820 Right.

01:03:17.020 And I do want to ask you whether you think what what's Joe Biden doing?

01:03:20.140 Like, when are we going to find out?

01:03:21.300 But on the Republican side, Rona McDaniel made news this week talking about whether Trump will sign the pledge saying he'll support whoever the nominee is.

01:03:34.800 I mean, we've been through this before.

01:03:36.940 We doesn't matter what he signs or doesn't sign.

01:03:38.900 He's not going to.

01:03:39.760 OK, sorry.

01:03:40.720 He's not going to.

01:03:41.920 It's he's Trump.

01:03:43.180 He was asked.

01:03:44.140 He was asked.

01:03:44.820 Will you support recently whoever wins the nomination?

01:03:47.740 And he said, it depends on who it is.

01:03:51.300 Me or someone else is really what he meant.

01:03:55.300 But here's Rona McDaniel talking about how Trump is going to play ball on this issue on CNN.

01:04:01.880 Will candidates be required to sign a pledge saying that they will support whomever becomes the nominee in order to get on that debate stage?

01:04:10.940 We haven't put the criteria out, but I expect a pledge will be part of it.

01:04:14.040 It was part of 2016.

01:04:15.620 I think they're all going to sign it.

01:04:17.040 I really do.

01:04:17.700 I think the voters are very intent on winning and they do not want to see a debate stage of people saying, I'm not going to support this guy.

01:04:24.780 I'm not going to support this guy.

01:04:26.040 You can't see a scenario where Donald Trump would just skip the debate if he's forced to sign something.

01:04:30.660 I want to be on the debate stage.

01:04:33.000 I think President Trump would like to be on the debate stage.

01:04:36.160 That's what he likes to do.

01:04:38.300 Wow.

01:04:39.060 Let me tell you something.

01:04:39.800 I was anchoring those debates in 2016.

01:04:41.780 If there was a requirement that they sign a pledge that they'll support the ultimate nominee in order to get on the debate stage, I wasn't made aware of it.

01:04:48.800 And you may recall that now infamous debate between Chris Wallace and Brett Baer and I hosting the debate in those first 10 candidates.

01:04:56.900 That was the first question Brett asked.

01:04:59.260 Raise your hand if you will not or you if you will support the Republican nominee, whoever it is.

01:05:05.060 And there were two candidates who were squishy on it.

01:05:07.260 And it was Rand Paul and Trump.

01:05:10.760 Trump, he's not going to.

01:05:12.780 Why are we spending time on this?

01:05:14.260 He's going to do whatever the hell he wants to do.

01:05:18.060 I'm pretty sure that.

01:05:19.080 And you've got to understand Donald Trump's background.

01:05:21.780 Like, you know, he came up in the real estate game where, you know, your goal was to leverage a bank so that you're in a relationship with them.

01:05:28.460 Right.

01:05:28.760 Like this guy doesn't give away stuff for free.

01:05:31.220 And if he has millions of voters, even if he isn't the one with the most votes at the end of the day, he's going to want something for that.

01:05:36.560 He's not going to just roll over and give it to you for nothing.

01:05:39.080 That's just the way his mind works and has worked since he was in business, you know, 40 years ago.

01:05:43.460 So, yeah, he doesn't he doesn't approach this like like a typical politician does that.

01:05:48.880 You know, there's something gracious about, you know, uniting the party like that's just not the way his mind works.

01:05:54.720 You know, I mean, she's got to go into that with eyes wide open. 0.92

01:05:58.100 She must know that.

01:05:59.300 So why does she even engage in this debate pushed up at her by the CNN anchor? 1.00

01:06:05.740 You know, why don't I just say, like, I have no idea.

01:06:07.860 This is for the voters to figure out.

01:06:09.140 We're not about pledges.

01:06:10.140 We're about putting up the best candidates, letting them duke it out.

01:06:12.700 And we'll go from there.

01:06:13.360 Like, why engage in this farce?

01:06:16.980 I think she knows that.

01:06:18.480 But I mean, look, a whole bunch of about the RNC is quaint and antiquated.

01:06:24.140 And, you know, the idea that there's 168 people that run around and set the rules that all these people need to adhere to.

01:06:30.140 I mean, of course they're not.

01:06:31.420 I mean, none of it.

01:06:32.080 All the platforms and all this like Donald Trump's going to do whatever the hell Donald Trump wants to do.

01:06:36.220 I don't care what the platform says.

01:06:37.440 I don't care what 168 people want them to do. 0.98

01:06:39.480 I don't care if they have pledges or don't have pledges. 0.99

01:06:41.660 I don't even care if he signs the damn thing. 0.98

01:06:43.420 He's probably not going to adhere to it. 0.99

01:06:44.920 Right.

01:06:45.500 So we can, you know, run around and act like we've got all kinds of pageantry.

01:06:49.440 And I think Rana knows that.

01:06:51.140 I think.

01:06:51.340 But I think she also has to play the role as a chairwoman for the party. 0.94

01:06:55.520 And she has to reflect the concerns that these 168 people have.

01:06:59.620 And they still think these things sort of matter, I guess.

01:07:01.900 That's a good point.

01:07:02.740 That's a good point.

01:07:03.300 She's not just representing Trump and his constituency who would like her to give the middle finger to Danabash. 0.99

01:07:08.260 It's it's a bigger party than that.

01:07:10.560 And speaking of which, Ron DeSantis hasn't made any announcements yet.

01:07:14.900 He hasn't said a thing, but he did just release a book called The Courage to be Free, Florida's Blueprint for American Revival.

01:07:23.140 One could almost surmise that this is sort of a blueprint for the path to the presidency.

01:07:29.600 He's going on, as far as I can tell, a mostly Fox media tour with a bunch of conservatives sort of in his sights and kicked it off last night, I think, with Mark Levin.

01:07:41.360 Book is published by HarperCollins, owned by Fox and so on.

01:07:44.020 But right now, if you look at the real clear average of all polls, Trump has 43.2.

01:07:50.940 DeSantis has 3030.

01:07:53.580 So he is still struggling to take over Trump.

01:07:57.360 And of course, there are still lots of names over on the right hand side of the ledger who are likely to get in.

01:08:03.960 So far, the only ones we know of are John Bolton.

01:08:07.480 Is that for real?

01:08:11.080 I didn't know that he announced.

01:08:12.200 He announced it on Good Morning Britain.

01:08:14.860 He said he's running.

01:08:16.660 How'd you miss that?

01:08:18.400 Jeez.

01:08:18.900 What a neocon.

01:08:20.620 And then you got Vivek Ramaswam, who has announced it.

01:08:23.380 Even his announcement is born in adventurism.

01:08:29.400 It's so good.

01:08:31.100 Yeah, no, I didn't know that.

01:08:32.240 That's fantastic.

01:08:33.220 Well, you know, and you had Nikki Haley announced.

01:08:35.400 Oh, yeah, Nikki Haley.

01:08:36.460 I forget Nikki.

01:08:38.480 But, you know, I mean, look, DeSantis, I think from his point of view, you know, the great challenge of running for president is you got to announce and throw this big rollout together so people actually show up and cover you and you can be a part of that conversation.

01:08:51.000 He's not had to do that.

01:08:52.320 Right.

01:08:52.540 I mean, everywhere he goes, he steps out of the governor's mansion in Florida.

01:08:56.020 There's going to be 100 cameras there listening to what he has to say.

01:08:58.700 And so anything that he's trying to do from a messaging standpoint is sort of indistinguishable from what he would do as an announced candidate in any way in terms of trying to be a part of the national conversation.

01:09:09.420 So I don't think that like the delay here is hurting him.

01:09:12.340 But I do think at some point you're going to see these candidates and Trump has already done this, I think, to a certain extent, Nikki Haley and others have started gauging him.

01:09:21.500 All right.

01:09:21.780 And and that is where it gets a little bit more tricky if you're not a candidate.

01:09:25.620 I should clarify that Rand Paul was not actually squishy on whether he'd support the nominee.

01:09:31.340 It was something we suspected behind the scenes at Fox, that it could be Rand and Trump who would be squishy on that.

01:09:37.400 But ultimately, it was only Trump.

01:09:38.900 Well, Trump is actually running.

01:09:40.480 Trump is announced and Trump is back in the news.

01:09:42.380 You guys saw he went to Ohio last week.

01:09:43.840 That was good.

01:09:44.420 He was handing out the McDonald's and making jokes about himself and his love of McDonald's and all that, which many people thought was a good was a good move.

01:09:51.380 But Ohio, back in the news, of course, and Pete Buttigieg, who's been taking a beating as our transportation secretary for being a little slow to get out there.

01:09:59.860 No, it's not about whether there was a fatality on this this freight car.

01:10:04.840 It's about the danger to a whole swath of Americans who are being, we think, misled that their water is clean and their air is clean as the animals and the fish are dying around them.

01:10:16.220 That's what it's about.

01:10:17.360 He keeps pointing out, like, well, Trump never went to the site of train derailments.

01:10:21.380 Trump never even said his transportation secretary.

01:10:23.720 Like, what?

01:10:24.480 How is this the issue?

01:10:25.340 But here's Pete Buttigieg talking about this issue rather than just like owning it.

01:10:29.620 I should have gotten out there earlier.

01:10:30.780 I do care.

01:10:31.380 Here's all the things I'm doing.

01:10:32.880 Here's his messaging on it.

01:10:34.240 I'm SNBC on Thursday.

01:10:36.600 You take down regulations.

01:10:39.080 You water down regulations.

01:10:40.640 You weaken the power of the administration to deal with freight railroad companies.

01:10:46.520 And then you show up wanting to be a great friend of the people who have been impacted by a rail disaster.

01:10:53.180 You know, this is somebody who, as far as I know, never went to a derailment site when one of those happened on his watch.

01:11:03.040 What do you think?

01:11:03.700 I think, well, first of all, first of all, I don't know if you've noticed, but Mayor Pete has been criticized in the mainstream press lately.

01:11:11.420 Have you guys noticed that?

01:11:12.980 You know what?

01:11:13.440 I did.

01:11:13.940 And one of the things that we know to be true about the mainstream press is the only time they criticize a Democrat is when another Democrat stands to benefit.

01:11:22.860 And Marianne Williamson might be the only announced challenger to Joe Biden.

01:11:27.020 But Mayor Pete wants to run for president, too.

01:11:29.760 And Mayor Pete looks terrible.

01:11:32.020 I mean, even though he showed up in East Palestine in costume with the orange vest and the hard hat, pretending to act like he knew what he was doing.

01:11:39.700 It was very like Michael Dukakis in a tank.

01:11:41.760 It was like John Kerry crawling through the space suit.

01:11:45.200 You remember that?

01:11:45.960 Yeah.

01:11:46.360 He looks awful.

01:11:47.660 And the only person who is laughing harder than us or our audience or Megan's audience is Joe Biden.

01:11:53.060 And I truly believe that Joe Biden wanted Mayor Pete to be at the Department of Transportation because he knew about Mayor Pete's ambitions and he knew that that's a difficult place to manage and he knew that he would crumble just like he is.

01:12:07.460 Yeah, it's just like when he made Kamala border czar.

01:12:10.700 Exactly.

01:12:10.860 It's like, here's this problem.

01:12:11.920 We refuse that.

01:12:12.600 We refuse to fix.

01:12:13.800 You're in charge of it.

01:12:14.660 The guy can't put a sentence together.

01:12:16.160 That's an amazing thought.

01:12:17.320 But he can work the inside game.

01:12:18.880 Biden's got a mean streak in him.

01:12:20.640 He's got a mean streak in him.

01:12:22.140 It's ruthless.

01:12:23.060 To steal a term.

01:12:25.720 The Washington Post had an article and it was incredible how they framed it.

01:12:28.720 They said, you know, sadly, we haven't been able to say that Trump and his deregulations were responsible for this.

01:12:35.080 So, number one, their whole purpose is we haven't been able to find a way to pin this on Trump.

01:12:40.220 We're going to keep at it.

01:12:40.900 We're going to keep the opposition research continuing.

01:12:43.480 But we haven't pinned it on it yet.

01:12:45.580 So, number one, Pete is lying.

01:12:47.740 He's trying to pass the blame.

01:12:49.260 And he's acting like he hasn't been on the job for over two years now.

01:12:52.060 Right.

01:12:52.140 But also, what the hell kind of answer is that?

01:12:54.600 I mean, this is an actual person that's in the government who is charged with trying to make people's lives better in one form or fashion.

01:13:01.100 And you're criticized about your response to.

01:13:03.420 And by the way, there wasn't like an atomic cloud over any city in America when President Trump was president in a rail disaster that caused it.

01:13:11.420 But his first reaction, rather than saying, we've got to get this right, I've got to get there, we've got to figure this out, is to say, well, well, you know, they didn't blame Elaine Chao like this.

01:13:20.500 You guys, what about it?

01:13:21.460 Yeah.

01:13:21.700 Yeah.

01:13:22.260 You know what I mean?

01:13:23.020 Like, I just it blows my mind.

01:13:25.160 You didn't think that way.

01:13:26.080 It's because he cares more about the optics than professionalism.

01:13:28.840 He cares more about the politics than the people in East Palestine.

01:13:32.180 We know this.

01:13:33.060 Everybody knows it.

01:13:33.840 Mayor Pete is not qualified for the job he's been given.

01:13:37.580 Absolutely unqualified.

01:13:39.400 And maybe just maybe all of these calls for resignation that are bubbling up around Congress will be heard.

01:13:45.980 And maybe this is his last year on the job.

01:13:47.940 Hopefully.

01:13:48.780 Here's how Trump responded.

01:13:50.480 Trump sent out a truth and true social.

01:13:52.820 Speaking of that Washington Post piece you referenced where they said Trump's not to blame for this.

01:13:58.140 Wow.

01:13:58.640 Is the Washington Post becoming legit?

01:14:00.640 They just reported that the weak and totally ineffective Secretary of Transportation, Pete, butt edge edge. 0.98

01:14:08.360 It's butt capital B, capital U, capital D, T, that lowercase edge edge.

01:14:17.780 You walked us right into that.

01:14:21.920 How would you suggest we respond to this, Megan?

01:14:26.040 I don't know what to say about that.

01:14:28.660 But we're going to miss him when he's gone.

01:14:31.820 I mean, I look to have this situation of Mayor Pete has just looked terrible throughout this entire crisis.

01:14:41.120 And President Trump shows up in a massive plane, like it's Air Force One, looking presidential, shows up and listens to the people.

01:14:50.420 He doesn't have.

01:14:51.180 I saw all these video clips of Mayor Pete surveying the ground in East Palestine.

01:14:55.400 And he had basically guard dog comms people surrounding him, pushing away folks who were trying to ask questions.

01:15:01.060 Yeah.

01:15:01.160 Meanwhile, Trump looks like FEMA, like they're to rescue with water bottles.

01:15:04.660 He goes to McDonald's and starts handing out food.

01:15:06.540 He waded into the crowd.

01:15:08.080 I mean, the contrast could not have been starker.

01:15:10.960 Yeah.

01:15:11.620 Did Pete drink the water without hesitation?

01:15:13.620 He led.

01:15:14.240 And even now some Democrats are saying like Biden needs to get there. 0.93

01:15:18.100 This is ridiculous.

01:15:18.760 Like in a presidential politics type environment where we are already, don't let the other guy lead.

01:15:24.740 But still, so this soundbite kind of wraps up our entire show, right, of actual disinformation, the media that is ideological and doesn't care what the facts are.

01:15:36.160 They're just agenda driven, spooning you stuff that's not factual.

01:15:40.620 And that leads me, of course, to Joy Behar of The View, who decided to weigh in on this, understanding that even the beloved Washington Post has said you cannot blame this on Trump.

01:15:51.900 Nothing he did in rolling back regulations had anything to do with this crash or what happened here or would have prevented what's happening in East Palestine.

01:15:59.580 I don't know why they would ever vote for him because there's somebody who, by the way, he placed someone with deep ties to the chemical industry in charge of the EPA's chemical safety office.

01:16:13.860 That's who you voted for in that district.

01:16:16.360 Donald Trump, who reduces all safety.

01:16:19.140 Oh, my God.

01:16:21.820 Pointing, pointing at the people in East Palestine who are suffering.

01:16:24.560 That's who you voted for.

01:16:26.020 That's you did it.

01:16:27.760 Oh, I got to point out.

01:16:30.400 The thing begins with just a cacophony of back and forth.

01:16:33.760 Like, how is this good television?

01:16:37.040 It's like I'm getting a migraine just listening to it.

01:16:40.560 It's so sexist.

01:16:41.720 I can't believe you say that.

01:16:43.060 It's just like a food fight in the middle of the day.

01:16:45.340 Like, who gets up and is like, you know what?

01:16:46.660 I want to watch that today.

01:16:47.740 Yeah, unbelievable.

01:16:51.420 It's like there's a lot of fighting, but they're attractive and they're fun.

01:16:56.460 Yeah.

01:16:56.760 Well, yeah.

01:16:57.700 Joy Behar, I don't think that's that criteria.

01:17:00.780 I'm telling you, Real Housewives of Miami. 0.98

01:17:02.600 That's where it's at.

01:17:03.280 Last two seasons.

01:17:04.400 Amazeballs.

01:17:05.600 But yeah, it's disinformation at its best.

01:17:07.860 It's insufferable.

01:17:08.740 And to actually look at these people in East Palestine and say, that's who you voted for.

01:17:12.760 Like, take a step back.

01:17:14.820 Respect what they are going through.

01:17:16.220 I mean, literally, we're hearing reports of people's pets dying when they leave them outside

01:17:20.180 in the front lawn for too long and they're having to put their babies in bath water that 1.00

01:17:24.600 they don't know if it's safe.

01:17:26.700 So just stop with your nastiness for two seconds.

01:17:31.000 Could you stop for two seconds and think about somebody who's not a multimillionaire sitting 0.99

01:17:36.700 her ass on the set of The View and judging people in middle America for voting for somebody 0.96

01:17:42.820 who might be a little different? 1.00

01:17:43.920 That's what they did when they put Trump in.

01:17:45.320 But yeah, it sort of reminds me of whenever there's some sort of tragedy, a tragic shooting

01:17:49.680 or something in the country.

01:17:51.280 Every Demopo group in the mainstream media tries to spend the next hour researching whoever the

01:17:56.100 shooter is to figure out if they voted for Donald Trump.

01:17:58.760 Right.

01:17:59.160 I mean, the first inclination isn't the horrible tragedy that's happened to real people, real

01:18:03.300 people with lives and jobs and families.

01:18:05.700 It's who can we blame this on?

01:18:07.560 Right.

01:18:07.960 And that's the sort of cynical nature of liberal politics that we have.

01:18:11.940 We see it every single day.

01:18:13.280 Well, and you couple that with the fact that they just don't care about East Palestine.

01:18:17.120 Yeah.

01:18:17.380 Joy Behar doesn't care about Ohio. 1.00

01:18:19.060 She lives in New York.

01:18:19.940 She lives a nice life.

01:18:20.900 She's super rich. 1.00

01:18:22.120 You know who else doesn't care?

01:18:23.160 Joe Biden.

01:18:23.740 Joe Biden didn't even go there.

01:18:24.920 We talked about that on the show.

01:18:26.120 He's he's happy living in a White House, surrounded by his rich friends.

01:18:31.040 Nobody in the mainstream media and in the White House actually cares about these people

01:18:37.260 in East Palestine.

01:18:38.100 It's just the truth.

01:18:39.220 They just they just look like a day away from from Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg and Joy Behar

01:18:44.280 ziplining across Niagara Falls.

01:18:46.020 Like a day away.

01:18:50.160 Guys, always a pleasure.

01:18:53.140 Together, they are ruthless.

01:18:55.040 And well, well worth a listen.

01:18:57.040 Great to see you.

01:18:58.120 Thank you so much.

01:18:59.000 Thank you.

01:19:00.440 Tomorrow, Mark Stein is on the program.

01:19:02.220 Plus, we're gonna have the latest on the Murdoch trial.

01:19:03.840 Thank you for being with us today, you guys.

01:19:08.100 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

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01:19:12.740 Thank you.

01:19:25.040 Bye.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - February 28, 2023

San Fran's Reparations, Today Show COVID Freakout, and Gisele Fetterman's Vacation, with the Ruthless Podcast Hosts ｜ Ep. 502

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